wsw 98 Sax and Kandy Korn, Ballmonsters. Corno for Cairo!

Dirty

now. Do it again. Do it again.

Welcome back to Weaving Spiders. Welcome.

WSW.

It's Saturday night.

Yeah.

Taking you back to 1998. Now that's what I call music.

Can you call sex and candy your music?

Handsome,

Harvey Danger, Lenny Kravitz, Marcy Playgo, Everclear, and many more.

Spice Girls, Backstreet Boys, All Saints, Fastball,

Cherry Popping Daddies?

Yeah. Cherry Popping Daddies Janet. And Marcy Playground. Is Marcy Playground on there? It says many more. I'm assuming They had to change their name to the daddies because cherry poppin' daddies was too,

Yeah. Suggested. Spitophilic?

Yeah.

Okay. A little bit suggestive,

but something Hollywoody.

Well, it's 1998,

And here's your shelf. Can you see the shelf here?

Line box toys.

Yeah. How many Pokemon can you name? As soon as we can identify All a 150 Pokemon, we will begin the show. I have Pikachu. That's the only one I know.

Okay. We got Pikachu, so we're one of 150.

Raikou.

Raikou. That's 2.

Got the guy Giggity butts.

Giggity butts. I'll just check that out. Squirtle.

Squirtle is another one.

You see them here? I don't know any folks' bands.

Holly Whirl, I think. The little little little swirly whirly. Jigglypuff.

They're jigglypuff.

Charizard?

Yeah. I'll accept that. That Gabe?

Magnetite.

Do you got do you got some Charizard on that shelf?

It's not my shelf. I wish it was. That that's probably

a small fortune there, having a complete Pokemon collection.

I used to have a lot of blind box toys. It was one of the weird things that I

when I moved cross country one time, all my Good stuff satin storage, so I would just collect these blind box toys out of necessity for something.

And,

Once I got all my stuff and I went from Florida

to,

Portland, I sold it all on you or on eBay. I can't believe how much money I made from blind box toys.

What's blind box? Yeah. It wasn't blind. I was on fucking Oh, my I think the company is called Kid Robot

and,

it is art. It's done by real artists, but they all take a Plastic character, like a shape. Sometimes it's a dunny, like or like bunny shaped or sometimes it's there's a couple of different blank shapes. And then a whole bunch of different artists will do it around a theme or one artist will do a bunch of them, and They get released almost like baseball cards where one of them's, like, 1 in a 100 and one of them's, like,

1 in 7.

You know? So some of them are really valuable.

Cool.

You know, it's kinda neat. I was on mute. Pull that pull that stupid Pokemon picture back up and watch and watch how fucking retarded my memory is. This is just horrible. I actually have kid had kids during this time period.

Like, I was, like,

pull that picture, stupid picture back up. Yep. Just a moment.

And my grandkids love this damn thing too.

Yeah. See him here. Make it smaller so I can see so I can

Yeah. Make it smaller so I can see the whole, thing.

Can you see him there? So this is this is Bulbasaur on the top left.

This is ID 4 right next to it. There's actually,

another version that's, like, a third.

This is Charmander,

then Charmeleon, then

Charizard,

then,

this is,

blast or

Squirtle,

war twirl,

blastoise,

metapod.

Let's see. That's that was,

that's not the crow one. That's Pidgey or Pidgey,

and then,

Pidgeon,

and this is,

rat it's like rat tattoo or some shit like that. Rat attack. Pikachu.

Rattata. Yeah. Pikachu,

a bunch of Pikachus.

There's actually a upgrade from Pikachu, but that was late. That wasn't for a couple years. This must be, like, from the oh, no. There it is. Clear on the

Far right, that's the,

I can't remember.

Raichu,

something like that. That's pretty good. This is

This is Arvok,

Arvok,

and, I don't remember the upgrade in the Arvok thing.

That's Clefairy and Clefable.

This is Jigglypuff. This one's hilarious, the Jigglypuff.

Yeah. The the jigglypuff

symbol, the little pink guy, I used to sing that. He had jigglypuff,

and I'd make fun of my son about it because he loved that show

so much. And, yeah, I can name, like, almost every damn month of these damn things. Just My god. Freaking cartoon, like, 2 What's going crazy

I did not see that coming.

I know. They would've said, who in here could name the most, and we have all had to bet on it. And Ben was like, you guys, the end of the world is in the balance, and we're like, what, dude? Should you be the one to go up and do the COVID man thing? And he's like, you guys trust me.

We would have bet it would take them so long to get You never take that bet. I know. Yeah. Yeah. Which folk Yeah. I was gonna take that bad even.

I'm so horrible horrible with TV stuff, but my daughter was in,

1st or second grade when this show started.

And so I I would pick my son up, and then I would have, like, an hour before she got off the bus. And I would have to sit there with my son who was, like, 4,

And he loved that fucking cartoon. Well, what else are you gonna do for an hour? I wasn't a big TV guy, but it's not like you're gonna go out and start a project

for 45 minutes and then quick, go run and get your kid.

So we watch this damn cartoon

and then go meander around at the bus stop for a little bit and wait for my daughter to get out of school. So

just from having sitting there and watched that with my son 20 years ago, I can remember damn near all of them damn Thanks. Do you remember the songs?

Do you remember the Yeah.

Yeah.

I remember motherfucker, I remember the mister I remember the mister Ed song from when I was, like, 4.

I shit you not. The day I remember black, white songs and everything. A horse is a horse, of course, of course. And talk to a horse. Of course. That is, of course, unless the horse is the famous business friend.

Go right to the source.

The horse. He'll give you the answer that you endorse. He's always on a steady course. The course.

People, yeah.

You guys can keep this up for 20 minutes. I made a great introduction. Keep the lesson. There's something to Hey, m s a. I'm just wondering if Pikachu

is the Mercury.

Yes.

Is Pikachu the soul or the Mercury? Sulfur.

Right?

They do the same. They do the same. Sulfur. Sulfur. I didn't even get it right. Man.

They organize them by type. Do you guys remember

What the types are?

So now there's Electric,

electric.

And modern, electric, and psychic,

And,

rock or earth, there's rock, like, geodude, and

all those are rock.

And then there's

earth, which is like my there is punch the punch fighting type like Machamp and all those and, Hitmon Lee and Hitmon I see a fire type, water, electric, grass, ice, fighting, poison, ground, flying, psychic, bug, rock, ghost, and dragon.

And then there's the combat chart to say which one works in the rock, paper, scissors scheme of things,

Which one is weak to who and strong against what?

Wow.

1998

Pokemon. Did we ever imagine that It would still be the biggest thing in the world

how many years later

with Pokemon Go. The other one that'll mess you guys up is I Actually, I'm really good at playing Yu Gi Oh. Because, again, my son was all super into Yu Gi Oh, and I would go to these tournaments with him. And rather than spend 2 hours sitting somewhere else, I would sit with him and play the stupid card game. It was actually not a bad Okay. It was actually not a bad our game, and I was, outside of Denver. I was the regional champion

for, like, 2 years. Wow.

What?

I came out with my kid. I never would have taken that bet either.

Man. Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, you know, you gotta hang out with your kids. I I mean, I had kids at one point and did those

Other parent weird parent things that other parents did. It was just, you know, back in the nineties

when all these things started. And the weird part is is My grandkids still does the Pokemon thing, and Yu Gi Oh, apparently, there's still tournaments and everything. Like, Some of the cards I ended up giving my kids

when they,

and this is only, like, 10 years ago or worth, like, 1,000 now because they're the very first cards from that game from when my older kids because I've got a big gap between some of my kids' ages. I've got some that actually turn 18

in 2 days.

Wow.

And then,

then my oldest is Be 30 in a month.

Beautiful.

We're gonna age a little bit in the next 20 minutes as we psychically level up and, And, trying our brain horns and tune them in. Jim, are we ready to go to the introduction video?

I'm ready. Okay. I'm ready.

Here we go. We'll be

back in 20 minutes.

Share the link far and wide. See you on the other side.

Realize you're not alone.

Sometimes

when disappointment's

crowded,

The high and mighty have turned into psychics for a secret of love and love. Now the wisdom of the ages is as near as your thumb. Thanks to the psychic friends man.

So that's how it all came down.

My friend Nicholas Brater tried to save the world

I failed,

and I found myself in this place.

The dark man of the soul,

For long forgotten,

scribbling furtively on scraps of paper that no one would ever get a chance to read.

So you used to be a writer. Yeah.

No way I still am.

Are you a member of Aramchak?

So enjoy the ice cream cone.

I think we shouldn't put our faith in these universes.

There's vast intelligence about the stars that guides us. It's interesting to know what to do.

It's like a religious idea.

I always thought that a Ramchek was a revolutionary organization.

It's

a subversive organization, got a blessing,

I think our loyalty should be advised that

higher entity alone.

Can you believe that too?

At first, I didn't.

Now maybe.

So this,

supreme beings that tell the Orangutek people what to do,

they called it Velas.

Spoke to them in visions. We will get this one day. I believe

You're a strange guy.

You ever hear its voice?

No.

But I wish I had.

I still got my printer supplies hidden away.

I'd be able to run off some of the images for doing the reaction things.

Very interesting.

Yeah. Very much.

You think of my jacket, Toby?

I need help. I can't do anything right wrong.

Sure.

Yeah. We have already.

I've never heard any voices.

Your own voice, but these

You you think believing about a heavenly don't got them anywhere.

Learn this world.

I better tell you something that you don't wanna hear.

I know you love your friends and maybe they're Happy spirits, Marvin Scott.

I mean, if they are, that's not good enough.

They give it a large rip belief.

What I'm trying to say is it's gotta be something here first.

It's where the suffering is. This is where the the injustice is.

This balance of God or whatever you wanna call it.

Polluted. The environment, the government, schools, you name it.

We were on

92 FM tonight. It feels like a nice clean little band. What else is using it? The ice is right.

Okay. If you could get Yeah. Of course, I'm

I'm totally in an exhausted decade where there's nothing to look forward to and none of you look up to.

It's got a pirate radio station. Nobody

Hey. What's this I hear about the Aramtec people?

Beautiful silver egg place to enter the floor. I think the leaf.

My theory is that in as long as the oxygen is removed from the leoplin by the end of the leaf.

Jesus

Jesus speaks about a simple Since adopting this belief,

I've seen an increase in my psychic abilities and experiences.

Tell me more preacher. I'm not a preacher. I think I know. Religion shit. Yeah. It's more honest work being a Thank you for tuning in everyone. Wow. My friends are Do you still think that we can do that? Still say the work has to be done here on Earth.

Let me ask you this.

Where did Jesus do his work?

What did you

teach? Hey, boss.

We'll take 5. It's hot out here.

Here is how you can visualize

this vibration

over time.

It's the waveform.

Here I visualize it using a subwoofer.

The purest form of sound

is a sine wave.

In a way,

every sound is made from Infinite

number of sine waves.

This is a controversial

yet ever futile statement.

A single sine wave has three properties.

Magnitude,

phase,

and frequency.

The magnitude

is the relative

It's the relative moment of one cycle.

2 identical sound waves with a different face

That's it.

Images. This is all. Pictures

of the way the information comes in. Michael,

It's cool. He he's not going anywhere. Keep an eye on him.

He built lived hours apart. They had developed a close relationship by emailing each other. So we got another record company press. An issue.

And so Progressions became very possible. What Judy Other members of the land check to

an old girlfriend had Search. I guess, I'm not.

To rock and roll, Joe.

I used to have big records in the classical

jazz.

Or as I'm concerned, it's just

Judy decided to take her psychic Friends advice and give Bill one more chance.

Bill Clinton. Hi. It's me, Judy.

Please don't say

Happy Rosh Hashanah.

Hey. What about that great guy you might have had party last night? Yeah. Well, he was obviously interested.

Come on, you guys. I only have done it a couple

I'm taking you out tonight, and I don't wanna hear another word about it.

Oh, come on. Everybody's going. It'll be fun. You just don't give up.

We're okay.

I've got an email.

My gosh.

It's from Bill.

Just as Judy's psychic friend, Crystal had predicted, Bill realized he had made a mistake. Curious to the psychic Friends Network. Bill and you, we are now here.

In this lucid and absorbing work, Ingo Swann opens up the continuing story about the Full of extent of human consciousness

and limitations

imposed on it by human reality boxes,

AKA

socially constructed realities

and personal realities.

Many children are psychic abilities.

The issue that you mentioned with TV

issue that still exists

is that watching TV diminishes your mind's ability to originate

Images.

Because the images are constantly fed to you. Pokemon?

On television?

Primary mode of thought and expression,

which is with images,

Not words.

Artists receive

inspirations

as images, I'm not his

words,

but that I only opened my mind to images, not words,

I quickly understood a good way I could disseminate between the information coming in.

TV becomes for you what you will be more likely to believe in.

I believe in Jim.

Chills ran multiple times up and down my spine.

And if you follow the show at all, you know that's always my confirmation that it's here to be with me.

Whoo. That's a lot. You're probably so not cool at the moment. Chills. I don't know. Okay.

Multiplying.

There is more beyond.

5, 6,

check your rings. Is anyone playing psychic bingo tonight?

From the Mormons, the church in Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints.

And the Jews to Rosh Hashanah.

Happy Rosh Hashanah, everyone. Happy Rosh Hashanah.

Happy Roshana.

I think that was April. Roshana, Sean. But we're still celebrating here. At home.

Thank you.

Just for the record,

I had no idea you were gonna end on the shofars.

That was beautiful.

We begin with the shofars.

Candy Corn Collectors, welcome to the show.

Hail tribe.

How to gang?

The year is 1988.

It's October 1st.

I have an October thing that I was today years old. That's pretty dumb.

And maybe everybody else gets it. Sometimes I can't decide and, like, if I'm brilliant or an idiot, and this is one of those moments and maybe a little of both.

You know,

corn mazes?

Maize.

It just dawned on me, like, maize and maize. Like, I knew corn was called maize. It's a pun.

Yeah. Like,

it just dawned on me in the last, like

during the break.

I was like, how brilliant.

Maze and maze. Like, I wonder if,

Like, if something else was called that where they have put the maze in a different, like, potato,

you know,

field,

if it was called maze. I don't know. It's

so but the candy corn of it all. There's something corny.

The last the last corn last corn maze I went into

at all the dead ends, there were corny jokes,

And they were and they were supposed to keep you from

getting lost on purpose.

If you put your right hand on a wall of a maze

and just leave your hand on the wall and don't lift it up, you can get out of any maze.

That's true. That is brilliant insight.

It just There's up your hand. Bill Gates. He's got something that with the Corn maze, though?

It doesn't feel good by the end of the maze.

Corn mazes, I'm not even sure why that became such Popular thing. Like, if you ran through Korn, they like to show it in a movie, like, it's all awesome and cool. Yeah. If you want a bazillion paper Cuts? Yeah. Like, our paper cuts were used in them, like, ragged little paper cuts. Are we gonna ask Bill Gates about corn?

Oh, I've gotta do this. Ask me about corn. Corn. You should ask him corn. Why is corn like corn?

What do you like about

corn?

That alone to tell you that you should not eat corn.

Like, corn is not one of those things. Like, out of all the Foods that are most heavily modified,

corn and wheat are the 2 that are absolutely the worst. Don't don't be eating either of those things.

They're horrifying.

Corn is an extraordinairer

extraordinarily

Nitrogen eater. That eats nitrogen like nothing you've ever seen, which is part of why you need these heavy nitrogen loads

because of corn,

which, you know, a lot of that's getting used to make ethanol, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but don't consume it or give it to your animals and then consume your animals if you're Meat eater. Gross.

Oh, no.

This is the Windows 98 show then and now. Oh, why is Bill Gates still haunting us to this day?

I don't know.

What's even happening? I'm glad we're not getting sound on that one. I'm already terrified. Can I have a stove for a minute?

It's October 5th. Smell toast?

It's gone.

It goes in,

And it comes out with no serious

changes.

Oh, we should keep eating that.

Your body's

Insane digestive system can't touch it. So it's definitely something you should stick in there. Why don't you just put little plastic pellets in your mouth? Is it a natural plant?

Mhmm.

It was. I it Before we Oh, like, if you get, like, blue corn,

Any of those corns basically that you couldn't eat on the cob that you have to grind down into something like a tortilla or

Chip,

those corns are actually natural. So you get one of those glass corns or something like that.

That's actually natural, and I I actually really enjoy blue corn chips and,

tortillas, things like that.

But any of the corn that you could just Eat off of a

a cob?

That is not natural.

Not good for you.

Don't eat it. Oh my god.

I can't stand this man's face.

That is pretty impressive.

Good. Have you seen the $1,000,000 man?

I'm almost done.

Connie Chung doesn't press. Technology.

We can rebuild it. We have the technology.

So do we are we re we

Visiting Windows 98,

that horror

show? That is on topic. Absolutely.

No. Thanks.

Would you rather wait for Windows ME?

The millennium edition. That's that's coming week, but tonight is 1998.

Big year for sports.

I think was supposed to be one that,

was horrible. I remember hearing people complain

about that one a whole lot.

About the year 2,000?

The windows to 2,000

silent

in the year 2 oh, wait. I need my light. 2,000.

Do we have predictions for what will happen in the year 2000?

The year 2000.

Right.

People will all be fucking vaccinated

and poison themselves

on purpose.

On purpose.

Year 2,000.

Oh, I wish I was in

1998

this time. Good show. That's true.

98. Right. I think I bought my first house in 1998.

I'm pretty sure of it.

97?

I

I can't remember if I bought it in 97 or 98, something like that. I bought my first house. It was In, Bloomington, Minnesota is only about a mile from where they built the Mall of America.

Near the airport.

Good real estate.

Do you wish you would have kept that house?

I

We bought it before the housing bubble. So, obviously, I bought it 97 and 98, and it was the 0 eight housing bubble.

And,

I My first wife and I bought it,

and we got divorced during the housing bubble, which ended up financially

anyways being

Fortuitous,

because then we ended up selling the house that we own together.

We paid a 114,000

for

Three bedroom upstairs, and then the entire basement was finished with its own kitchen and bathroom, so we rented that out.

A 114,000.

And this is again in Bloomington, which is actually

not Edina

wealthy, but

And the Minneapolis area is considered one of the wealthier

suburbs and the better ones to live in.

Absolutely.

Home up with beanie babies?

Absolutely not. Okay.

I think we have, like, try, like, 10 of them just because,

back then,

We did eat McDonald's or whatever. I didn't,

really re I didn't actually eat McDonald's much back then,

but,

It just it's not like I was eating healthy. I mean, we ate Taco Bell. That's for damn sure, the chili cheese burrito, which is how I know that destroys your your system, which is why if I ever go to Christy's ex husband's house, I'm totally eating some cholitos beforehand,

and then gonna just upper decker the hell out of his

upper decker.

That's that's a baseball reference. Right?

Big year for baseball, 1998.

Oh, man. When I said that to my wife, because she asked me if I could ever go over to Scott's house and not get into a fight with him. I was like, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'd upper decker the hell out of his toilet, but I wouldn't fight with him. And

she's like, what what is that? Explain it.

She was very naive when she met me.

And people get this idea from my Show them because of who I am now

that I've always been this way. No. I was 19, 20, 21, 25,

all those things.

I I ate, you know, fast food. I, you know, I didn't, again, ever really watch TV that much, but occasionally, I did. And so and then

My memory that's

partially,

photographic. I don't have the full photographic, but partial.

It remembers everything. So, like, people sometimes like, when I'm when I'm in a conversation and I'll say something because,

it's part of a something that, you know, we were taught or whatever. I'm like, that doesn't necessarily I mean, I believe it. I just remember every freaking thing. I'm not trying to espouse the position myself. Do you remember what this was called?

Oh god.

I think it was technology

thingy,

A computery thingy, and my brain,

for whatever

reason, can just rejects computery thingies. I don't know what that is. Is that it? Is that it? It's a mouse. It's a Imac mouse. No. That that's a clitoris detector.

Yeah. Right? I would've went with that one. It changes colors

when it finds the when when you You you clean the hard frame.

Yeah. I'll just say I think the first version of this,

mouse here called the hockey puck. I think it had a ball in it? I don't think it was a laser mouse yet. Does it only have one click?

Yeah. It's a single click hockey puck mouse. This is one of the most hated

Things that Apple did. They hated the shape of this thing. It was too small. So uncomfortable. Is this a computer for children? Yes. I had that. It is a computer for children. It was horrible.

Those IMAX were garbage. They made great,

fish tanks, though. They were pretty. Popped that,

CRT out. Looking.

When they first came out, I was like, oh, those are cool. I want one. And I got one, but nothing special, really. What color was it? What color did you get? It was the red one, I think. Yeah. It was the red one.

Oh.

Yeah. Yeah. Red one.

Lot of the technology

had this

Translucent

clear style. Mhmm. That was becoming very popular.

Mhmm. A lot of your walk men's would have that clear plastic so you could see what's inside of it. Like, that's very important to see the components inside of it. Yeah. Did we also get a whole bunch of blue drinks and blue candy And sour blue everything at the time? Oh, yeah. Like, was that when poisonous blue came in? I don't know if it's blue 40, But I don't know what the blue number is, but I know M and M likes that. I feel like they even added blue to their pack of M and M's at somewhere in Yes. They did. Yeah. They did.

That blue man group was right around that.

That blue man group came out right around that that I'm blue

guys.

I

think Pepsi Blue is That came out right now. Later.

Fascinating.

Is it also me? Buddy.

Hi, Cory.

Howdy, guys.

Hey, Cory.

What's up, Gordon? What's up? Hey. Hey. Gordon. Hey. Yo. How you doing? How you doing? Hey, Leila.

Hello. Hey, Jamie. What's going on?

Hey.

Allenmarcus.com.

Hi. I've had a website since 1998.

Allegedly.

Allegedly. Well Allegedly, it's a real sight. Oh, yeah. Is that even a real thing?

The hosers?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I won't even tell you about my first web pages.

No.

Won't I won't share my first web pages, but they're probably still somewhere

On the web. Oh my god.

I can't find my Myspace anymore. I deleted it, but I can't find it. Yes.

So at Christie's

Danish days, there was this actual Norwegian lady, and she and she asked question.

And I and I answered her, like, 4 times. Oh, it was that she asked if she was part pulled far enough off the driveway that the back end of her Car wasn't in people's way.

And I was like, the first time, I'm like, yeah. You're fine.

And I was like, you're you're pulled off far enough. And she kept asking. Then finally, I was like, Oh, yeah.

And she was,

oh, like,

oh my gosh. You know? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You're fine there.

Yeah. Oh, sure. Take all the space you need there, neighbor. Around.

Sorry. Sorry. No worry.

The whole,

Australian,

mermaid h two o, o nerd,

you know, the emphasis on the r. I love it. I love it.

Australians.

98,

Monica Lewinsky was,

playing with cigars and Bill Clinton.

Mhmm. Oh, look at what color her dress was. We got blue again. Blue.

Yeah.

Alright.

The Unabomber

got,

my hero.

Arrested. Yeah.

Uncle Ted. Uncle Teddy.

Yeah.

Tried to tell us, everybody wants the Notre Dameus, but no one wants the Ted Kaczynski.

We bet you. Oh, man.

Oh, man. Christie's brother, when I told him, I was like, you need to read the manifesto.

The guy's a prophet, And he's looking at me like, what?

I tell everyone with the Unabomber

Manifesto just to add confusion to them. I always say, you need to read the Unabomber

manifesto in Malcolm x's book

because you'll be stunned at how much they're saying the same thing. It'll make your head spin. It's amazing. Mhmm.

Yeah.

Dylan Ted Kaczynski.

We're following this trail of blue,

and we have a Bondi blue eye matte. There it is. August 15,

1998.

Yep. The The all in

one with

that hockey puck mouse.

I think it was was that Windows 98? Yeah. 98. That's

I think it was OS 10, wasn't it? It was it was o it was,

not quite 10.

Was it, still 9

on the first time, Max?

I think I had a hypercolor shirt or several hypercolor shirts in 1998,

if I'm remembering correctly.

Maybe it was Oh, they they

isolated Cuba in 1998.

That's where our whole

More current

embargo of Cuba because following a recent visit to Cuba pope John Paul the second. Remember that douchebag?

Demands that political prisoners are released and condemns US moves, and the US moves to isolate Cuba.

But that's also why Monica Lewinsky was trying to take one for the team and hide some cigars.

Yeah.

That is the prison pocket. It is. Yes. It is. That's God's little drug traveler.

You betcha.

That's funny. Great. Oh,

333

megahertz Pentium

2 Processor, that 333.

Mhmm.

There you go, Gabe. The Serpentium

Processors.

Serpentium?

Mhmm. Sounds like a villain from, He Man.

Howard's part radio premieres.

Or a sex toy. Howard's

toy.

I like that.

Not mutually exclusive.

Correct.

They're pendiums. Sounds like it'll sell out.

That's what I you know what I would name my sex toy? My octopus teacher.

Wow. Make it so. Make it so.

You would have 8 movable arms and 9 brains.

That's sexy.

Yeah.

That's right. Oh,

this is when there was abortion clinic

Bombings,

1998. There was that whole rash of abortion climate bombings.

Your life. Soccer bumpers. More fun than a pillow fight. I have a soccer bopper story.

Those came out in the seventies.

And Kids nowadays would never be able to soccer bop.

No way.

Sock that kids. They can't hang.

You can't suck them up. My grandkids,

and I get so many calls from my kids. Like, You know what your grandkids did? Some kids stuff.

Kids stuff.

Yes.

My sister broke popped 1 on my head one time.

Oh, I got Probably why this is all plenty of times. Yeah. That was target.

Oh.

How many

how many siblings did you have, Lita?

Uh-huh.

How many siblings did you have?

3 at the time. Okay. You still have 3 siblings? Sister, and

I was the, like,

Nonviolent

one, but everyone else around me was violent and did just love picking on me. Target.

Punching back.

I doubt this. This sounds like bullshit. I'm through Oh, it's not bullshit.

Red, white. Not I wish it were.

Mhmm. I wish I

were.

So this one's big. In Britain, the House of Lords decide to give a monarch's 1st born daughter,

the same claim to the British throne as any first born son,

ending supposedly

a 1000 years of male precedence.

Whatever. A 1000 years like that freaking

fam one family's been ruling it. Whatever.

But supposedly,

For a 1000 years, it's only been the first born son, and they ended that in 1998.

Interesting.

That seems weird because the queen

doesn't it seem like there's always just been a sovereign queen of England as many times as

there's been a king. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's been the queen for a very long time, which always makes me laugh. Everybody's like, we're in a patriarchy.

Then why is it that nobody can name a king in living memory? It's always been a queen.

Like, come on now.

Isn't that just funny? Didn't Russell j Gould

in 98

save the last flag or something?

Was that a thing? I don't know what that is.

Well,

The Last Flag Standing, there's a whole,

documentary

on, you know,

Russell j Gould being,

I believe, commander in chief and talking about Symtech's grammar

and, like, saving the last flag Because about, I think, 1998,

I believe

there was about to be a war,

And

United States was up for sale or something like that, and he was the one who stayed in the United States and

Sent the last flag,

to the first post office in Philadelphia

and had it registered and actually saved the United States from foreign

Threat or something like that in 98?

Wow.

Yeah.

There's a whole documentary about it.

M and M became a thing in 98.

Uh-huh.

I love M and M's.

We're also live on Rockfin tonight. Rockfin, Odin's Alchemy.

Let everyone know. Dale, Jared. We love you, brother. I'm glad you're back. Thank you for the sound of the buddy. Thanks, Jared.

Slim Shady, was that the first Eminem song?

I don't know. It just said he was signed by doctor Dre, and this is at the beginning of the year. So

But I didn't know that Slim Shady song didn't come out till later. Wasn't,

Goddamn. My cousin liked these guys. It was it that,

I am whatever you say I am?

Oh, yeah.

With 2 12 ish? Just like me. I think that came out later, though, when they

That's what Christie's saying. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. Slim Shady is later because that's when

Yeah. The MTV Movie Awards, like, everybody, you know, the thousands of M and M's walked in.

In 1998, Sony had the chance to buy the rights to almost every Marvel character for only 25,000,000

They chose to only buy the rights to Spider Man for just 7,000,000.

1998,

Sony said nobody gives a damn about the other Marvel characters.

Wow.

What do you think happens next?

They buy X Men.

They tried making a

fantastic that's because, like, you remember in 1998, I'm pretty sure that really horrifying,

Fantastic 4 movie came out that I actually had to go, like,

go to a friend's house and get it downloaded on, like,

Casa

Or something like that. Kaza.

Kaza.

Just to watch it on, like, a ripped thing because that was never officially released. And then as you're watching it, you're like, Oh, because me and my friends could have done this. You're talking about the really bad.

You're talking about the Roger Corman one. Right?

It's

awesome. Like in, like, 98?

Yeah. It's Oh, just, like, amazing

ad.

It's

yeah. It's terrible.

Really funny. Like, they made it

for mystery science theater 3,000 or something. They just made this thing to be have other people lip Saying stupid shit over the lines.

I'm remembering the 2005 version, the fantastic

4.

Is that the one with the black guy who's the twin with the white girl? With just Elba, Chris Evans.

Okay. You know what? Hollywood

that, like, I I'm also.

And so A lot of the a lot of the people in, like, the the pagan,

communities will get butthurt when,

they put black people in white positions,

you know, like, most recently,

I was waiting for it. You don't even know. You don't know what's going on. There could be a peacock in the house.

Yeah. Pretty much.

She's like, you don't even know.

At least 1. There's a kitten on the counter. I love peacocks. It's like my favorite bird.

Legit.

So beautiful.

You know what else is ironic that's never ironic because the spiders control the timeline

is that,

The only reason I know this is because of that stupid comet thing that happened this week, you know, where they shot the camera into the comet?

The dark thing.

It was very Armageddon

where the I don't wanna miss a thing. Oh, yeah. That came out in 90

8. That came out in 98. That's right.

Yeah. It's terrible

CGI production.

Like, terrible.

Like, it's better in the movies.

Like, they do a better job in Hollywood.

That was terrible. That was terror terrible.

Just to look at some of the movies.

Interesting.

Oh god. That movie sucks. Super interesting. So one of the,

Mandela

facts is about Ellis Island.

Oh. And in May 26th,

It is ruled by the United States Supreme Court that the historic gateway for millions of immigrants, Ellis Island, is mostly in the State of New Jersey rather than New York.

Yeah. Fascinating.

Yeah. So on the cover of ants, are Are those the Twin Towers there? I went out not enough. They are. New York.

Okay. Sure are. And

Then we have And you have the parent travel with other twins.

Oh, yeah.

Lindsay Lohan. When did Lindsay Lohan

pass away? When did she what? She died? Didn't pass away. She's a lot. She had a nightclub

In Dubai or something, she was, like, a kept person in Dubai, and then she stole somebody's baby in the street

during coronavirus.

What? Russian homeless, really?

Yeah. Russian homeless family. Wow.

You know what? You got a good looking kid. I'm You know?

I think,

that was that like, what's it called? What's that word I'm looking for? Like, A code for something? Like, she did that purposely. So just like A dog whistle code.

You know? Signaling to someone. Someone's random kid and, like, go viral

To put attention out there to this, don't know why. I think she could do that. Do better in her house. She she said that the kid was homeless, and she was like, Well, the kid would do a lot better with me because I'm not homeless. It's such a kind of kid. I think there was, like, 9 other kids in the family. It was

An

immigrant Russian done all the drugs and been a cum dumpster, so my DNA is shot, and I don't really want a child of my own that would Share that DNA, so, like, give me yours. But I think she's a redhead green eye. So there's something about her. So there's something about Lindsay.

Bugs and answers. Show was the Truman show was released. That's a good one. Yes. They do. Seeing? I'm seeing a pattern. It's like

1998.

Here's what's gonna happen. We're gonna start feeding you bugs,

this and this and that, like bugs and ants showing there's like a

Like, a time chart of everything to come.

Like, legit.

You can say that word. It's there's something about marriage, the hair gel.

Alright. That was such a that wasn't even a fun that funny of a movie. It really wasn't.

Oh, American X. That was a hard one. Can't hardly weave. Oh, American X.

Autoenochrome,

inferior and loathing in Las Vegas.

Oh, I'm so in our beginning, and then we were just talking about, You have all the z symbolism going on in Ukraine.

Ask of Zorro, ants with a z, Godzilla.

How many z's do you see?

And And you guys saw that just this week

just this week, supposedly NASA sent their first satellite to Push an asteroid.

So

Armageddon From Armageddon.

Yes.

Yeah. Supposedly

saved the world. They can now

Save the world from threats we never see. The ironic thing Sure. Has been totally

Missed that thing when we talked about it the first time.

Was there any footage of the DART,

program. Did they have a drone?

He that's why you were having a battle with an animal in your house. There's a Yes.

Hey. It's oh, man. My cat so there's this other cat that normally does not cut it, like, comes around occasionally, but it stays really kinda hidden.

But now that these 2 kittens are around, that bugger just, like, the last week has all of a sudden become suspect as hell. It tried to come in my window here. And last night, it sat outside on the porch and looked in through the damn,

we've got a Glass door out front. It looked in it, and it stared at us. It was like,

And we've got a kitten that's, like, probably to the age where it's coming into its first heat, and it's just doing it now just, like, on it.

And my other cat right now playing. She will not come inside. She's having fun with it.

Oh. Oh, that was a Look at the cat back there. It's just Catchers.

Yeah. Yeah.

That that is the kitten causing the her milkshakes bringing all the boys to the yard, And they don't care that all of a sudden, they don't care about no humans.

Like, that is the power of pussy. Right? Don't even care. Like, oh, yeah.

Let me in that door.

Like, 5 pitbull sitting there and a bunch of humans and this, like, half barrel cats. Don't care.

Don't care. Let me in.

Jeez.

That's who the fight was with.

I got a video from Gabe here. Gabe, did you wanna tell us about this video?

9 former altar boys,

the Catholic church paid $23,000,000

to 9 former altar boys From the Dallas Diocese

getting, and raping little boys, paying the monies.

23. They got a special fund they got a special fund for that, Which is awesome. Like, you know, you got that special,

you know, lawyer on tap

for,

to protect all the butt little built boy butt rapers.

They pass around a tray in church, and people throw money into it.

You betcha.

What are we looking at here, Gabe? They put the fun in fund.

Something underwater, it looks like.

It's

a Roman helmet.

I can see.

I think you're on mute maybe.

What what is what oh, wow.

That looks a Spartan helmet. That looks like Skender Beggs hand,

helmet.

You guys know who that is. Right?

No. No? Where is this? And where is Gabe telling me about this?

Let me,

well, Skenderbeg, let me spell it in here

or send a link. Hold on. There was some audio. Forgot he wore

Interesting.

Discovered under water.

Nicholas the second and his family were finally buried

80 years after the Bolshevik revolution in 1998.

Interesting.

Is this a giant helmet that we're looking at?

Yeah. It looks like a Spartan helmet to me. Yeah. Kind of a mystery. Where in the world is this helmet?

Gabe.

So shared Doris Spider's welcome web. Now it's created a mystery in our minds.

And then Gabe just disappears.

He's like, here's a video. Here's the thing.

July 17th,

a 120

nations vote for the creation of a permanent international criminal court

At a conference in Rome, of course,

to prosecute people for genocide,

war crimes, crimes against humanity, and the crime of aggression.

That's a that's a

Wow. Is that a giant helmet? Yeah. That's a Spartan helmet.

Baron giant helmet.

That'd be an awesome lawn ornament.

Oh, he's on the phony.

Oh, I see.

Mhmm. Yes. Well, sir, let's see. Back around to that.

Can anyone read lips?

Yep. No one's any of the wiser. I mean, I think the bartenders are pretty good at that.

What was the biggest major project? Ryan was

Saving Private Ryan was released. Gotta keep up the more movies. Yep. That's on the grid here.

And it's a Tom Hanks with an x, Hanks, next American history x.

And you got CIA agent Matt Damon coming in strong right behind him. Damon.

Meet Joe Blair. Remember. So

Wasn't there something that happened? Movie

didn't that other movie come out also with, Edward Norton where he's, like, this little weeny guy that was, like,

the some pope or something was having him, like,

making him and some other boy do, like, weird sexual acts so he could let the demons out. And then He went and, like, killed all these people and pretend that he was, like, him. You're right.

Right. And and one of them is like this that came out. 1 of them had Marky Mark, and one I met Edward Norton.

Yeah. Yeah. And he was he was like this weird little weeny guy in the one, and then the American History X, he's like Fucking bull. That guy's like,

he's yo. So you're like,

what?

How is this guy the same guy?

Edward Norton. It's before 1990 nine's,

David Fincher directed fight club.

Edward Furlong,

the 2 Edwards.

Ed and Ed.

When was that cartoon? Ed Edward and Eddie? Wasn't that a cartoon? Ed Ed and Eddie. Yeah.

That was a kind of funny cartoon.

1 of my kids watched that. Yeah. It was great.

Love that cartoon.

One time,

I thought I had a blind date.

Well, it wasn't really a blind date. I was at my job and I was talking to a customer of mine,

And

we, you know, we were having a report for, like, a half hour. And what are you doing tonight? What are you doing tonight? And he's like, I have to shoot a scene for Whatever late, I'm like, I'm going to El Compadre off sunset.

Fantastic.

Life went on. I thought he was a pretty cute boy.

I'm sitting at El Compadre that night. He walks in,

and I'm like, what?

Are we about to, like, hang out tonight?

And this is

and I'm like, this is weird.

I can't believe you're here. Like, I walked up to him, and I could tell on his face that he was like, oh, shit. The reason I wanted to eat at El Compadre tonight was because she told me about it earlier. Holy shit. I didn't know she was gonna be here. And it was Ethan Embry from Can't Hardly Wait.

I saw his face on that movie

thing.

And I'm like, oh, this is an embarrassing story, but I'm gonna tell it.

But ironically,

I was friends with Jennifer Love Hewitt, kind of acquaintances. I'll say an acquaintance with Jennifer Love Hewitt at the time.

With this guy? Oh, wow.

Yeah.

I know.

And now when I look at him, I'm like, I gotta look like Ethan

She's pretty. Yeah. I love her.

I had a pretty interesting encounter with Michael Pitt.

He was out of his fucking mind.

Like, legit out of his mind.

Comes in. No one really knew who he was.

I went outside to have a cigarette while I was bartending in New York City,

and he comes outside. I guess he called his drug dealer to come and give him his Coke,

And he gets his big bag of Coke. I don't know. It was pretty big, pretty large. He goes in the corner, just opens the bag, and just shoves his face in it And just

inhales as much as you can.

Grab me.

This this guy was Like a little kitty. Hey. Just

So I knew that I was from Albania. He's like, you know what? Come on, fuck this place. Come on. I'm taking you out of here. We're buying tickets. We're going we're going to Albania. I'm like, yo, you're out of your mind.

He was so depressed,

so sad.

Like,

I feel bad for these actors, but at the same time, like, I don't know what makes them, like, lose their mind like that.

I don't know if you were really cute. You you you came to my work on a skateboard.

He he was really cute. People. I was there. Whole face going poke at once.

It's crazy. What you're trying to tell me? Content people don't do a whole face full of Coke at once?

I don't know. I've never seen it.

I've never seen it. Yeah.

He's

like, holy shit. Everybody around was like, woah.

All on his face and everything.

I'm still looking at Edward Norton's formography.

In

1998,

the first RFID

human implant implementation

is Tested in the United Kingdom.

The People versus Larry Flynt, that's when he dated CIA agent Courtney Love.

Edward Norton.

Scott, anyone remember rounders? Girl that's not whole was the Best group was the best group ever and would just listen to that one album on repeat

every day. Live through this. When you had kids oh my God. It's such a good album, though. It's really Kurt Cobain's best album.

Kurt Cobain.

You know, It was alright the first 20,000

times or something, but, like, it's like when you have kids and

they watch a movie on repeat, no or how good it is. You now have PTSD about the movie. Like, my son, it was,

when he was a younger,

Like, 10 to 12 or something. It was that Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. I literally took that DVD out, and it was, like, on the office space where The fax machine where they're, like, jumping on it out in a field bit and with the bat. I'm like, fuck. I fucking

never again.

Never.

Okay. Down for whatever. Wait. Web song,

damn, it feels good to be a gangster.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

That that is a great soundtrack, that movie. That is a great soundtrack.

Milton Waddams movie is one of the funniest movies ever. It's great.

Milton Waddams was an American hero, man.

Office space is 1999,

so that's

close.

It really captures that 1998

cubicle culture.

The government of North Korea adopts a military dictatorship.

That was 98.

There's some wars that happened in 1998, if anyone remembers them.

Yeah. I do.

Could we black hawk down in 98?

I thought it was earlier.

Maybe you're right.

Early.

Yeah. Thank you for the Mediterranean.

I I think not Mediterranean

conflict was 1998.

I've got a medal for that Somewhere.

Andy says Kuwait.

The Congo

Concerts like this September. Earlier. Right? Mhmm. Yeah. Oh, hold on. No. Was was 98,

Bosnia?

Congo.

Rwanda and genocide.

For the Rwanda and genocide. I remember that.

I thought

Was buzz

was was it,

Somalia Somalia

in 98?

It was Kosovo and Serbia.

Right. Yeah.

President Clinton had a trip to Bosnia in 1997, the Bosnia Herzegovina.

How do you say that?

Uh-huh. Herzegovina.

Had to pick up some kids.

Yeah. Something like that. Has a William Clinton.

Old Bill Clinton.

Jackie Chan became a thing in 98.

I've never seen the Jackie Chan movie.

They're pretty good. No. They're good. I don't know. I just have no interest in him.

I don't know why. My brother loved it. My brother loved Jackie Chan.

My,

The girl I was dating at the time had a kid that loved,

Jackie Chan, and we went to this Asian restaurant. It always been

Girls that were the wait that came out in their waitresses.

And one day, it was, ag it was a Chinese guy. And this kid stands up, and he looks at him. He goes, you're not Jackie Chan.

Like, just all accusing. Like, how dare you be and not Jackie Chan.

It was hilarious.

Leila, they wanna know Romy wants to know what's the symbolism for your name, God pill angel 33.

There's Throw me in the chat. There's Throw me in the chat. There's red pill. I like the god pill.

Like, you'd take the God pill. Like, I wanna be more in touch with God.

That's So I look at it. My understanding,

I guess, why I made

it. God pills.

Why 33?

I chose the God pill.

And the number 33?

33.

Illuminati confirmed.

March 3rd.

Illuminati confirmed.

33

March 3rd.

That is why I am not a mason or anything special.

It's been confirmed.

It's confirmed. Yes.

33.

I'm 33.

The European Court of Human Rights is established.

M and M's is 33.

Marshall Mathers.

Sorry. I'm I let me check the check. W w 33.

Cc 33.

An ampersand.

So 33 and a mirror.

A b and a b. There was something that was also b b that we were talking about. Oh, the name of that blue computer.

That's a The Bondi Blue. Yeah. That becomes A 30 Oh, and the angle bar.

Maybe getting to Alex Rodriguez hitting 42 home runs

And Mark Maguire

in baseball?

Oh, yeah. I'm Maguire. Mark Maguire's with a Al Gore.

Al Gore, vice president of the United States, symbolically

signs the Kyoto protocol.

The protocol is an international

treaty extending the 92 United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change

committing state parties to reduce their greenhouse emissions based on the idea that global warming is occurring. And it's most likely human made c02

emissions that has been causing it.

Clear back in 98.

Well, Al Gore has been the header head up of that whole entire phrase Term movie setting put in the propaganda into our brains.

Al Gore, that friendly southern gay man who's in the closet has Push that entire narrative of just a polar bear swimming, but it could be a polar bear swimming anywhere. And they're just like, This polar bear won the polar bear Olympics, but instead of saying that, like, this polar bear is losing It's habitat due to melting ass, and we're like, oh my gosh. This must be true because the voice over said so.

Oh, god.

And Al Gore, even the name Gore.

Like

And then, like, the one baby, you know, where the where they had, like, the penguins jumping off a cliff into, like, shark infested waters, and it was because that the the camera crew actually, like, Diverted them in that direction.

Like, are you guys serious? You punch a monsters.

Disney started that with the lemmings in the 70s.

Alright.

So this was a Prelude talking about the 08 bubble. November 30th, it's announced that the Deutsche Bank, which Deutsche Bank and Lehman Brothers were the 2 that went down to That caused the collapse in, o eight.

That $10,000,000,000

US deal has been made by to buy Bankers Trust, making it the Biggest financial institution in the world.

Of course, now banks like Wells Fargo are vastly bigger and held up on propped up on stilts that somebody has been gnawing at the entire time. They're more upside down than Deutsche Bank and Lehman Brothers were at the time

and 10 times bigger. When the next collapse happens, there's no Holding back. It's gonna be the full out collapse. The dollar's gonna disappear, and they're building the frameworks to replace that with crypto today.

I don't even like the word Deutsch.

Would be nice.

I told him. I told him.

The week.

It's like moist just me, German. The way a Deutsche moist German.

It actually means that moist mad. So he's like, woah,

What's that movie where they take a bunch of mushrooms and they talk about the word road, ROAD,

road? What's that movie?

Oh.

Mushrooms.

Fuck.

It's a funny movie.

I saw that I saw,

Michelle was in the chat. I wanna show this real quick. She sent me some of the their pine or pine resin oil.

This stuff is

awesome.

Like, I I used it for what it was Well, she sent it for, but then I started using it in my in my beard because I get lots of, if I eat the wrong things, my

My beard and my hair will,

like, flare up, and

and it works

amazing.

So

Thank you, Michelle,

very much.

Was it Tommy Boy?

The movie with raw ads?

We u we are currently

using ours on,

Scott, who was viciously attacked by a big nasty

German

Shepherd,

and it it messed her up bad. It wasn't like dogfight style. Like, that dogfight is mature.

Alright. Well, that we're 4 and a half hours

from,

a vet that would be open, and that's I mean,

Hoping that my truck would make it,

you know, that that quickly,

at night.

So and that's to Possibly get to an emergency vet, and at that point, stitches won't do anything.

So we taped it closed as best as possible that night,

And I've just been treating it,

with colloidal silver

and Michelle's stuff,

Michelle's cream,

And then,

washing it out. In the 1st couple days, I did bag balm,

because bag balm is,

While it's

petroleum based, it's also amazing.

I mean, I don't normally advise any petroleum based thing, but the bag balm is just one of those ones that just fucking works. I don't care what you say.

Yeah. And it's got a mild anesthetic in it.

So we packed it with bag balm after I cleaned it out real good with iodine.

One of the mistakes that a lot of people make With an injury like that is they immediately go to,

hydrogen peroxide,

which just is like laser blasting sting all the cellular material in that area.

So now there's this

dead wall

in your cells, which normally would have kind of Come back together with fair ease,

they will not because you've made the a dead zone of this injury. And so you don't ever,

oxidize it like that. Use like, I used,

it's a triple. It's iodine,

betadine, you know, mix.

It's called Treddyne.

And then

cleaned it out, got it real good, put in some colloidal silver to keep anything that could possibly infection coming into it

and,

packed it with,

at first couple days, bagged balm, and then Michelle's healing

And she's she's

she's up and moving again. She's now eating again, and she started pooping yesterday and peeing.

Oh, and while she was, she wouldn't eat or drink, so we were hydrogenating

bone broth and giving her hydrogenated bone broth and some

Sweet potatoes with manuka honey,

and rye are in chicken breasts.

So

Ben Ben, Romeo is asking if you can,

let's see in the chat.

Something about pine pitch. Romy Romy.

He says about to harvest a bunch of pine pitch this weekend, wants to make some incense for the farmer's market. Can you distill the Pine pitch to catch the oils, or is it redundant and should

it should use the needles of the pine.

Yeah. You can definitely use the needles of the pine. It's not gonna have as much pitch. Obviously, pitch is,

is a Distillation of your pine resin,

you know, and then just boil down into,

until it's a real thick tar like,

pitch. And you can also,

distill pine out, and that's where, like, your turpentine is a pine spirit derivative.

A few other things like that.

Really good stuff. You know, your pine, it's supposed to again, like turpentine, it gets rid Parasites. Turpentine used to widely be used actually, and and now people make fun of you like there's some cycle for it.

And the guys used to put it in their morning coffee, a shot of turpentine, make sure you don't have the parasites.

It was a normal thing. We had we had Songs about it in the army when you were marching. Like, they say that in the army, the coffee is mighty fine. It looks like muddy water and tastes like turpentine.

Yeah. And all that everybody knew what turpentine tasted like.

Alright. Not good.

It tastes very piney.

But, yeah, these are all, you can make it definitely make a distillation out of that and

Borax. Boil it down to

Tar, borax is excellent stuff. Mhmm.

Not something direct derived from pine. Borax is, actually

mineral that's mostly,

mined in the desert.

Southern California,

out in the deserts, there's a lot borax mines. The 20 t the 20 mule team borax is in Southern California out there in the middle of the desert. Oh. The Mojave Desert. I got stranded there once right frost from that, and it actually has a condenser dome just like the,

gold and silver mines do, the flower of life denser go dome above it. And it was one of the retired workers from that mine that saved our ass. We're in the middle of nowhere in our Borax mineral?

Borax is a mineral, and it's a very masculine mineral.

One of the things that,

so in today's society, all the manly men drink beer And then sit around and talk about soy boys.

And,

the

estrogen

derived from hops

is one of

the most estrogen

deriving things on the planet.

Wonder why they're getting all getting man boobs, Sitting around drinking beer,

talking about soy boys. It should literally be beat beer boys.

Estrogen just everywhere with the hops. On the flip side, borax,

drives up testosterone.

I've always had kind of a Suspicion. Like, it's very interesting that,

the spice from the Dune movies and all these people are from the desert.

And if you've ever had testosterone,

that's a hell of a drug. Like,

you turn superhuman.

You know, you get enough testosterone. Like, You look at,

the ax murderer from the UFC.

Like, when he was jacking had Testosterone. That guy who was a middle aged man was coming out and massacring,

you know, the most elite fighters on the planet like they were nothing.

Oh, hey. You know, a nice heavy load of testosterone. You're like a fucking superhuman.

And I've always wondered if, the spice from Dune

Wasn't just heavy loads of testosterone,

the borac taking in

the borax.

I always thought it was shrooms.

Shrooms?

Because it it folds space and time.

Yeah. It's good. That's a good one. Some right now.

Okay. Let's just watch.

I should probably just take a little bit.

And then we just full screen to watch Layla's trip.

No. No. No. Not a lot. Just a little bit.

Skye laying on the couch. Just a little mushy. Just a little mushy. Yeah. I should. Right? Fuck.

Correct. You guys go. Here's

daddy's head now. Babies. Aw. He's

looking better. That's the beeps.

Yeah. That's So much better. Yeah. This was laid open to her skull

all the way across there and there. Poor sweetie.

Literally.

Yeah. And her paws was so cute. Dog.

Oh.

She's protecting you. Oh, yeah. Then that lady tried acting like it Wasn't her

fault. Like, you know, all, like, oh, well, you control your dogs and I'll control mine and blah blah. I tried saying that and Like, my dog was off the property or something. Like, no. Your dog was dry you were driving down the road with your dog unchained in the back of your truck. My dog went up to the end of the yard See what was going on. And your dog jumped out and just tried to kill the hell You're, like, keep your Nazi shepherd in the back of your truck, lady.

Oh, man. Oh, it got way worse than that. Oh, it got so much worse.

Yeah. I was He did. And at first, we didn't even know what was going on and that it was a dog. And so I'm outside with the damn 30:30,

And we're looking for the mountain lion or something that just tore my dog up, and then I see the neighbors, like, not even in their driveway. And I'm like And I'm like, that's very weird that these two things happen so close to each other because that neighbor almost never comes here.

And then I go over there and she's got this big ass Giant nasty German separate in the back of her fucking truck. I'm like, did that fucking dog jump out this truck? Yeah. You know? And then she lied to me and freaking,

You know, and here's another weird thing about me with as long as we're doing weird things about me tonight. Like, why while everybody immediately looks at me and assumes white nationalist, I am Freaking lutely not. And I really get along with people from other cultures.

And so the Mexicans that were hanging around were my friends.

And even though we don't speak the same language, we we freaking charades each other really good. Like, I helped him go get a phone last week in town and get a Actual planned phone so he could call home to Mexico because the little card ones won't let you. And and I go in and explain to him what he wants, and then I went to go get, like, a Roam around the mall and wait. And I come back. He's like, man, I thought you spoke Spanish. I'm like, no.

Like,

even a little bit.

But I get along with people real well,

and they told me the truth because that's what I suspected already.

And but that night, she tried telling me lies, and I fired the off near. I'm like, no more. Don't even talk. Like, I'll come over and shoot that dog right out the back of your truck. You gotta be nuts, lady.

Leave that down. Go take it and nail it to my gate.

Tell your friends.

1998.

Porn of a pyros. Yeah. On the show.

Gordy, do you were you at the show?

I was not at that show, but I was on a journey. Once.

Man, what else?

No. But I was at a at a, Jane's show

In Tucson

where

somebody threw a Birkenstock at at, Perry Farrell. Hit him in the head.

Not around the same time that the George Bush freaking shoe thing incident happened was, like, a couple of years before that. Lots of shoe throwing in that era.

Yeah.

It's so disrespectful,

but it's the way that,

Mexican mothers or just Latina mothers,

Chung class. A Chung class. Chung class. You don't know nothing until you get hit with a Chung class.

Smell my foot, motherfucker.

But I really do believe a few Cuban moms and a couple of chanclas, they'll save us from communism.

Well,

Albanians have the same thing, and we call it papucha.

The chancla, we call it papucha.

And I think once you have a kid come out of your birth canal, you can throw that thing like a boomerang.

Uh-huh.

It becomes like a superpower.

Yeah. And the aim is always on points. They could throw it around a corner. It,

it'll somehow catch you. Yeah.

Done college kid wet dream Hugo Chavez was elected to president of Venezuela.

Don't like the guy.

Hugo Chavez.

It's a lot of war in 1998.

You know what? It it was kinda like but it was all Small wars? Because like I said, I got medals for a bunch of those, but I barely remember any of them. Did they call them conflicts?

Yeah. They were all called the conflicts.

So that's one of the little tricks that they play because they say that Clinton years were our most peaceful years, and those were the only years that basically in our history we Haven't been at war, but we had all these little conflicts.

Just a ton of these little conflicts

That happened in that time period. Like I said, and I'd swear 98 was like Somalia too,

because I think I got 98 was the year that I got my honorable discharge if I remember right.

Well, definitely Haiti.

Ugh.

But in earth the earthquake was in 98 in Haiti?

No. I'm just talking about their, like, little,

infatuation with Haiti.

The Clinton stealing all the little children? Yeah. From Haiti?

Yeah. That.

Yeah. They started that awesome this week.

Yeah. How long have they had their hands in there?

How many years? I think that was the Clinton Foundation, and they started that to embezzle their money after they were in their presidency the way they all start foundations after their presidents.

No. Putting the fun in funding.

Putting the fun in funding.

Is that Romeo? How are you doing after the hurricane there, Cheney?

Beautiful.

There's a couple of things.

There is devastation that went on. I'm not taking away that. But the news

Just in your logic,

if you look at an aerial view of something

and then

you were to take that same aerial view And blow off all of the leaves. It's like the polar bear swimming to the ice. It's if I took a winter scape of,

Central Park.

And I told you an atomic bomb went off there. You'd be like, holy shit. I can see it with my eyeballs compared to Central Park in the summer.

So, so much of the devastation that the news shows to like feed the fear and so that the red cross and can get blood draws and money draws Is they just show you sit streets that yeah, there's flooded water in places, but a lot of the places that they're sitting flooding water is Coastline community. So the houses are $1,000,000

houses. The people that live there are totally, you know,

Comfortable. And then all the foliage is just blown off the trees.

So it looks devastating,

but it's like a lot of the docks, They're made out of wood and they float in there, like, they're made

like, they show all those cars floating.

The reason all the cars floated, if you looked at all the apartments that the cars were floating in, those

they parked underneath

The cylinders

because everybody in Florida,

they're like, they can't get flood insurance. No. Because they're on a flood plain, so no insurance company will flood them. So they have to build their house on stilts, and so they use underneath the park. So it's usable space. So it's those houses know they're gonna be Flooded. That's why they're on stilts.

Some of this stuff is just like, but it it's like the same way as a Floridian would never know how to live through a snowstorm. It would look If you just

said, oh my gosh. Look at this mountain valley. These people are snowed in for a week. We would be traumatized. We'd be like, oh my gosh. How do you guys even exist in the snow?

But during storms and shit, like Floridians, it's kinda what they do.

Slob it on Cecil Lowe, by the way.

I remember as a little kid

being highly disappointed with hurricanes because I'm from the you know, in the Dakotas, we have a lot of tornadoes.

And I've seen I've actually in person seen f 5 tornadoes.

Like, I I'm from I lived in this little town called Barnard, which literally has, like, 15 person time,

population,

and an f five picked up the farm at the end of at the end of town and just took it.

Like, tornadoes are insane. And then, you know, as a little kid, you're kinda taught that a hurricane is a big Tornado. And then I we lived in Texas for a little while and a tornado happened. And I'm like,

I wanted

Or a hurricane. I'm like, these things are kinda sissy. What is this? It's really a flood. It more than the wind for a hurricane. It's the flooding after and then the week Couple weeks, you gotta live without power and then the infrastructure you might have to rebuild. But,

the hurricanes, everyone's like, they're getting so much faster, and I'm like, no. Our instruments are getting better. Didn't you guys all see the movie Twister? They were

are getting better. Didn't you guys all see the movie Twister?

They were trying to Gordy was talking about that little thing on Harry Potter.

Yeah. Dorothy.

They yeah. They threw

because they didn't have the technology when that movie was out. That's why it was so crazy. Like, oh my gosh. Can you imagine if we could put something Up there and read the winds.

Twister 1996. Have to remember when that was in the theaters, Alan Marcus?

Now do you remember how that year there was, like, a 100 tornadoes in Minnesota? Like, just, like, every day there was, like, 3 or 4 of them? Yeah. I saw it I saw it in theaters

1996.

Sat in the front row of the theater, so we were like,

Twister.

Kyle.

Flying Kyle. Yep.

It was kind of an intense experience. I don't know why they chose to sit in the front row. They They wanted to be experiencing the twist here, but it's really just kind of a twisted neck situation being that close to the screen.

Isn't that too dead now?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

He is. Too? Yeah. He's not even at all. Bill Accent. Accent. He's not even that old. Game over, man.

Yeah. Seems Chet from weird science. Right?

Check this out. Older brother. Wow.

Game over, man. Must've gotten

We must have said that line a 100 times a day in my childhood.

Exactly like that, Gordy.

Game over, man.

Romy, man. Romy.

Welcome, man. Looking stylish.

Shit, baby. You know the vibes. Hey.

Thank you so much. It's, quite an honor and a pleasure to be back on the spiders.

Thank you, Jim. And,

Yeah.

Hi.

Hello. Hello.

Hi. Hola. Hey. Hello. Greetings. Well met. Welcome. If anybody doesn't know,

Romy is

is the host of

tell me a little bit about your podcast.

Tell us a little bit about yourself, Romeo. I gave you the alley oop, Gordy. Give me the alley oop. Right?

Yeah. We got rising from the ashes. We have a new show

that will be premiering on, October 8th with madame Burkana, otherwise known as Kaley

Berkana,

called Moon Mysteries, and you are all welcome to be guest if you would like to talk about some of the Crazy mysteries of the moon, the folklore, the histories,

the lies, the deception,

or the truths.

You know, is the moon a satellite? Maybe, you know, who knows? Was it implanted to throw off some sort of axial spin? Who knows? Have we been there a 1000000 times? Is it a place On Earth and not actually in the sky when we reference going to the moon,

you know? Who fucking knows?

But there's that And then Esoteric Slobodan,

Milosevic. One. I hate him.

Fuck this guy. Oh, you never you never forget that name. Slobodan.

Slob.

That was the name of my Slob.

Fucking

I hate them.

I hate them. That's what I Do it with a Sriracha aioli on sandwiches. I slob it on.

This guy was everywhere. Is he dead? I believe he was arrested. I don't know if he was put to death

for crimes against humanity.

I don't

know. Just looks like a total goofy goober with that name Slabodone.

That's what he is.

His dad was a mastodon. His mother was a dirty, filthy, sweet, luscious whore.

Christy said love you, Romy.

Hey, Christy.

We're going to Flat Topa Fest at the end of the month, Ben?

We are we are

desperately trying. I am about to probably do, like, a Fundraiser type thing because, my truck going down and the dog going down, and that was really

the the the dog to getting her like that, that's really taken a

hit. We usually are pretty independent, but,

that was a rough month. But, yes, we are gonna figure out a way. We are definitely going to Flattoberfest.

The Weaving Spiders gang is,

helping put together the presentation,

And, we're,

I'm gonna go do it up.

And, actually Get the Baldur since the Flattoberfest.

Yes. Get the Baldrinsons

to Flatover Fest with our mall bass dog.

And,

Yeah. So I'm just gonna, like, put my PayPal out there. That's just odensalchemy.com.

Alright. Yeah. Dotcom. [email protected].

And,

Karen b extended my time. Apparently, the presentations typically are only an hour,

And I was like, jeez. I have to it takes me half an hour to explain how to tie a shoe. I don't know, man. I I got a nuanced

view of the world. And this is a lot of information, and for me to try and punch that out in an hour is I I actually just did a lot of that with Freeman,

earlier today,

because Freeman had me on for

a while

and it was truncated,

So let me tell you what, in an hour of me trying to say what I'm trying to say, it's it's comes it's rough.

Like, we all know I have dense conversations. I put out a lot of information and an hour worth of me just

slamming information to to the average listener that's probably gonna be as close as it feels like Neo in matrix just like

But presentation

styles should help. Right? Presentation style with, like, the images and, like, trying to Stick to some sort of relative script. Should should be She doubled my time too. She, she kindly, rearranged everything, and I got 2 hours of an hour.

Yeah. Karen's the best.

Karen's always are

In every single day.

Hey. She's There's been such a crusade against them because they're so rad.

To do Yeah. Well well, it's propaganda. There are so many bad Karen beast to offset the awesomeness of this Karen bee. That's what, that's what it is. And, like, I was looking she's she was like like because I'm very optimistic. I'm like, we'll still be there. Said it but my presentation is gonna be so awesome. I gotta go through a lot of hard times because this is gonna be so awesome. It's gotta you gotta have the balance.

So this is the suck for how how awesome it's gonna be here in a couple weeks.

Nice.

Yeah. I wanna shout out something if I can, since I have I have a limited time here. I have a, awesome friend visiting from Mexico,

And we got some quiche and potatoes and

other, items ready to be, ingested here soon. But,

this is an open invitation for a bunch of all the humans,

specifically

awesome,

always, of course, with spiders.

But we are starting a an esoteric zine,

and mainly going to be ran and hosted by Juan and Ayala.

And it's going to be kind of like an open format where you want to write an article, you have something that you're specifically passionate about, And maybe you wanted to try writing an article. If you want to

upload it, email it over to Juan,

And we can get this zine pumping out. We have the first art, we have the first version ready to go.

And,

you guys can check that out over at the 1 on 1 podcast,

and and and get a copy yourself. But if you guys are pat you know, everyone here within the spiders community

As somebody that I think could have absolutely something to attribute to the zine,

and, you know, it's kinda almost like we we're riffing off of The all seeing eye from Manley p Hall that,

mag or that weekly newspaper that was coming out from 1927 all the way up to, like, 1995,

I believe,

which is if you guys haven't got your hands on the copies of the all seeing I from daddy Manley p Hall, highly recommended. Great esoteric works.

But, yeah, please

write in,

do all the things, like, let you know, keep the information flowing and growing. As y'all know, as we do, because this community is vibrant

as all get.

Love it. Love it. Love it. Yeah. I have a name. It has a great name too. What is it,

Rummy? I I I okay. So I don't wanna butcher it, and that's why I didn't say it during

Now but I think it's the occultus mundi.

Yes. The occultus mundi. Yeah. That's such a great name.

Yeah.

I recorded 1 with,

with 1.

And I don't think it's out yet, but, yeah, I might have something something for that. Nice.

I dream recorded 1 with Juan.

Hey, man. The dream awesome. Better times. You know?

I was totally gonna ask Juana on a podcast with me because it went so well, but I was the only one there.

Yo, Jim, is that a rotating background? Is that are you using OBS, or is that, like, an actual, like, a piece of your armor?

This is, Balderson's tree of life.

I haven't it's, his his two dimensional representation

of it. It's,

I mean, it's it's actually bigger than what you see here,

but we're we're we're working on getting him an animation,

Or that's what we need to do. That's part of the process.

So if there are any animators out there who could do computer animation,

Lucas King tagged in last night. Lucas King tagged in last night. Lucas is at, presentations And his, little,

slight they they are amazing. So

I was hoping Lucas would tag in. It's it's so cool. I,

It took me a while to for it to click.

And as soon as it did, it it it, like, changed my whole life.

Like, everything

Came

into balance and

paths cleared out of the way, and, like,

It it was transformative. Like, I'm I'm working on a 3 d model of it right now. Oh, cool. We got into it on the flow state. In the mood, almond,

Better never been butter forever Ben Butler a la mode stream September 28th.

You jump in there at about, Our 15 minute mark, and then we get into,

designing this thing and figuring out how can we make it into a 3 d representation. And

It's kinda what we do on the Wednesday night show. Jim, tell us what do we do on flow states?

Flow state. It's, the

When you're when you're doing a creative thing, like,

drawing a picture or sculpting something, you know, etcetera etcetera,

you're

You're using

the right hemisphere of your brain. And then

if somebody's reading and you're listening to it,

The left side of your brain becomes activated.

And when both sides of your brain are active at the same time, when Your whole brain is active at the same time.

You lose yourself in flow state.

That is the premise.

So we encourage people to work on art,

sit back and listen. We take take turns reading to each other and discussing cool

stuff, cool concepts,

tell stories,

And it's a it's an open it's an open Zoom room. So,

everyone is invited to come and jump into Zoom if they would like to.

I I post the Zoom link in the chat. And,

if you wanna get your feet wet of, being up on one of these streams with us, Definitely come on Wednesday nights,

and,

you're invited.

Put it in your,

What's that thing? Subscribe,

smash the bell.

Pencil pencil yourself in for a flow statement Wednesday night. Join us. Love to hear from you. Smash that bell.

Hit the like and subscribe.

Smashing

that bell.

Sounds so dirty.

I love that.

Who who did who did the bell smashing? I mean, you know, the bell symbolism

of, of the ancient Vedic,

Archaeology

or sorry, architecture

and, you know, the the earth having resonance of a bell, the moon having resonance of a bell, Then you jump over to what we would consider, quote, unquote, like American history and the cracking of the Liberty Bell. But all the bell towers are missing the bells.

The resonance, you know.

Yeah. Let's

let's take a look at them. Down.

Yeah. They melted them all down.

Hail Yeti slang.

When I think of Nels, I think of the movie Spider Man and Venom

and

Him placing a bunch of these steel bars around him and hitting the bars and

the sound of the bell,

You know, losing the venom up from

what's his name?

I forgot. Venom. Spider? Am I right? Yeah. Venom from Spider. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Remember that scene? Yeah. Because everything everything is It clears

sealed. And it's it's a it's like

it's like a,

It clears the energy

or something.

Yeah. I know a certain benign secret well, it's not really a secret organization, but they do have some secret

rights when you join.

The 1 on 1 podcast, Jim. Well, it's very interesting. Bret balls were bronze or brass. I don't remember which, But it was very specific. I think it was bronze, typically.

I'm wondering that when when you sign it, when you

When you, when they initiate you in this in this club, you walk around a circle

3 times to the left hand side, then they ring ring a bell

11 times.

Interesting. Wow.

The, the the the key f sharp is, like, the most notorious

tone or key that gets associated with, like, the frequency

That,

they considered to be the urge frequency,

which

is interesting if you if you, like, make music or, you know, grab your guitar and you Play, like, an f sharp major chord,

at, you know, the most basic level.

It is incredibly beautiful, but it's,

I mean, it's not even I mean, in the musical scale,

you know, that's the

the 6 and a half,

Or the 6, the sharp 6. The 6.6.

6.6.

Oh,

That's cool.

You know? So, like, I'm wondering if, like, there there had to do something with the resonance,

attuning the the architecture

and and The electromagnetic,

you know,

observation

of the of

the stones of the masonry that was used. You know,

If the building itself needed to be activated or, you know, it also activated the the mind state to put you in a transit

mode to,

enable the magic of the architecture

through the sounds and the resonance of the bells, and wondering if f sharp was that key.

Also, considering,

like, on each hour. They would, like, strike once on 1 o'clock, 2 o'clock. They would, you know,

for some reason,

You know, hit the bell whatever time it was within that amount of time. There has to be a reason why.

It's like a whole ritual in itself.

There's a reason why they use bells and seances too. Uh-huh.

To call them the spirits.

Or to cleanse your deck in tarot. Right.

Everything is sound. The whole universe is sound. Well, you know about the the

the Swiss

Engineer that went to Tibet in the thirties,

who witnessed the so he went to

He met some guy at,

Cambridge, I think, who was Tibetan.

So he goes to Tibet to study this

idea that they were levitating

stones with sound,

and they demonstrated it to him with 200 monks, they would

do this semicircle

around the stone

in this specific angle,

And they would use horns, drums, and chanting,

and bells,

and they would levitate a

Giant rock. A giant stones, like, 400 meters up into the air, and they would place

Specifically,

in that specific spot where they needed it,

and they did it over and over again. They did it, He said 5 to 6 an hour.

Wow.

That's pretty good productivity.

That is really good. Comparatively speaking to some of the construction in this town alone. I mean, wow.

So the the best psychic that I've ever seen,

the this chick is, like, straight scary. I actually am extremely skeptical.

While I believe in all those kind of abilities,

I think that 99.9%

of people are charlatans, and at best, they're, mentalists

And very good at being mentalist and,

conning you out of money based off things that you

they tell them whether it's with body language or things that you tell them

with, quest leading questions that they ask you.

So I don't say or do anything.

And she had this little bell, and there definitely wasn't any reason for this bell to be ringing that I could see anyways.

And this lady was absolutely scary with her psychic.

And, whenever she would say something that was super spot on, that little bell would ding.

And you're just like, what the fuck?

Actually, Lindsay Sharman met her and a bunch of other people too. She the lady's just Scary. You know, I didn't even say anything to her at all.

You know Wow.

The idea of, like, every time a bell rings, an angel gets its wings.

Was that the way the elite told us they were doing a sacrifice?

Good one.

Chaney streams of conscious. I like listening to Chaney's show. Oh, really? It's like this crazy stream of conscious where it goes from, like, really deep things, like, what she said to just Fucking hilarious.

Oh, yes. OG.

OG.

I also think the Liberty Bell was never meant to ring because the United States was never meant to have liberty. We're just having the illusion we're free from the queen.

I I think that's a large part of that symbolism as well. Go head wide.

It's like it

and they carried it across, like, to San Francisco,

for some ridiculous, like, I think it was the 1915 Panama Pacific,

you know, exhibition during the world's fairs Paradigm when that all that shit was going on. And,

they brought the Liberty Bell

all the way over, you know,

As this huge symbol,

but but I I think you're right. I think it alludes to, like, you know, this this kind of like when people put, like, you know, the The figure of Jesus on the cross. Right? Like, the cross is so much more of, like, an energetic symbol of something on a celestial level,

a lot of times, in my opinion, you know, on that. So it's just like here on the forefront,

a we're gonna crack this bell, something that has celestial

Information

tied behind

the sacred geometry and the and the structure and function of it. And, you know, it's just Kind of like our modern society just time and time again being like, hey, here's this really subtle image that's going to scar and traumatize

you

And take you further away from these, like, abilities to maybe, you know, open up portals or, you know, be able to tap into that That heightened,

you know, aura awareness or, you know, being able to expand, like, the the the creative imagination

state

into what we consider reality or something and, like, yeah, the the Liberty Bell.

You know?

I don't know, man. That shit is sketchy as hell.

So my my buddy in college was roommates with a guy. He was like a serious hippie, The my friend's roommate.

Oh, that's interesting. He was like a housemate.

And he went on a trip to

Philadelphia.

And he brought his backpack with him to go visit the Liberty Bell, and he pulled a hammer out of his backpack.

And he rang the Liberty Bell with a hammer, and he said, jealous. All heroes, jealous. Jealous.

Great.

Yeah. That's what he said. And, he went to federal penitentiary for 10 years.

No.

Oh

my God. Just we're ringing a bell?

Wow. That's the Liberty Bell. I wish that video was documented, dude, though. Wrong. What year did he do this? That is crazy.

That was your homie? Place. That was my, yeah, my homie's roommate

or We have to find out what year he did this because he probably jacked up the timeline a little bit.

Yeah. Imagine, like, from the elite, can you imagine if that's the reason that we're all woke right now?

2001.

How do you pronounce the last name? Is it Mitchell Ghiat?

Gihad?

Iliad. This is the guy who did?

Ring the bell? Look at this guy.

The the the the nuts and bolts on this guy, bro, he'd be swinging straight to the floor.

That's look at how big his nuts and bolts were. Look at his pants.

He has to carry him around.

This this guy's name is a far where no doubt. I heard

where. It wasn't a hammer that rang that bell. You know what I'm saying? Hey. Hey. Hey. Captain America.

One swing. That's it.

Let freedom ring. You know what I'm saying, girls? Bottled in one swing.

From wild one bell to another, Taco Bell's mouth watering.

Beyond meat's sake, we'll turn you into a plant based believer,

Allegedly.

How beyond meat is it, though? I'm curious. Like, are we talking, like, how many timelines past the the meat?

Like, what?

Still not convinced that fake meat can replicate the real thing?

Make a right to the border. I wouldn't punch that crap.

Beyond, Nina, help your vaccine

kick start that virus.

Taco Bell.

Double

Bill Gates meet today.

It's happening, guys. Taco Bell. Make a run for the border.

I'm gonna put I'm gonna invest in Before Donald Trump builds a wall. A few shares

And just hold on because I feel like

Demolition man? Yeah.

Just in case, they've you know,

you just read the article. They're going plant based.

There's no meat.

Did you say you've been saving seashells because the demo is That's what I was thinking too. I in my head, I was just like, learn to use the seashells.

Yeah. Are we preparing

for this? She's looking at us like we're fucking crazy. It's hilarious.

You watch demolition man again.

Oh, that's the one that does not get enough credit.

And then,

one that,

some of the guys from the spiders crew are,

I think maybe it was,

Did that I turned Jared onto is,

a Kurt Vonnegut one that had,

Samwise from,

Lord of the Rings in it.

Rudy,

where

That one never gets talked about at all, and it was done so well,

where the

Dystopian

future was built around mediocrity,

where you didn't try to get an a, you didn't wanna get an f, you wanted to get a c.

Super super interesting show,

and it's shocking how very much with this homogenation

of our entire society that

Anytime that you stand, even, like, you look at the grade curve.

When I was going to school,

That whole grade curve thing. So any test we took,

basically, every single test I took, I didn't get counted in with the rest of the kids. My test were all throwing out because that's too far away from the other kids, so I don't get counted in with the curb.

And so yeah.

Harrison Bergeron. You betcha. It was such a cool movie. This is it? One of the

yep. Yep.

And it's all about it's all about equality

and, you know, equity of and so because of that, like, one of the big Scenes that left an imprint on me was,

the father describing

so if you were a a Super fast horse in a horse race. They they'd tie sandbags around its legs, so that way it was only as fast as the other horses.

And it was never allowed to be faster. And then so the horse race is a bunch of these evenly matched horses,

and apparently, whoever just gets lucky wins.

And the father describes how,

seeing this horse that the sandbags had broken loose,

Just take off and be wild and free. It just take off running for all of its you know, it was worth was the most beautiful thing he had ever seen in his life. You'd never heard classical music because anything done by a savant

was no longer cherished,

but was actually,

Bad because that's not something a mediocre person was capable of or even of truly appreciating. So these things have now become banned.

And our society today,

it it really strives for mediocrity me, mediocrity.

When I was a kid, I think the average,

reading level was like,

it was right around, you know, 12th grade.

And the last I had heard,

I think newspapers are printed around 5th grade level because that's most people's Reading comprehension, the majority of people is only around 5th grade.

That's horrifying.

Hey.

Seriously, plug

conspiracy

cinema because that that's a great show. Yeah. Jared. Yeah. Jared. It's it's a conspiracy

cinema.

Yes. Thank you, Jared. That's

I had available on Odyssey.

Quite a number of us have been on it.

The

most awesome

that everybody appreciates for the quality that Odin's Alchemy is, and it isn't just like this over a computer for most of the show.

Then,

yeah. Well, there's Rachel. There's Woah. Look how sexy his pictures are. Together.

Yeah. His pictures are great. Look at this one of me and Sean, the holy mountain we did. Oh, this is freaking great. This is Sean sitting and stewing in in his own shit and he We're seeing it. We're getting.

Yeah. Rachel, we got another It's a bunch of very dystopian

type movies,

And,

you go they have you go through there's there's Alan Marcus on the keep. Yeah. And

Up here on the keep and in network. So on 4 ended. Nice.

Oh,

nice. There's there's

chance and and Mario

Right there, Steve.

Fun. Yep. Oh, and here's, Steve Boykin in, my friend, and,

John Rollin. Slow news day. That's

Yep. Slow news day.

If you're gonna get, political news, Check out slow news day. There he's not,

he's not either, you know, right or left. He's just about the truth.

Yes. Steve is awesome. And John Roland.

You

bet natural freak out the league.

When Slick comes back, We'll have to talk about, we did

4 hours on the first

not even quite the first half of doctor Strange,

The new one, doctor Strange 2.

If you guys haven't seen that yet, it comes up The one

The one where the doctor Strange that supposedly is in this isn't even in the movie?

From a timeline that normal? So You didn't notice that? It's there's there's several there's many different versions.

There and we got And none of them were the Doctor Strange that is from the first movie. None of them. He's not even in the second movie.

Well, we don't know that yet. We're not I haven't heard of you the whole movie yet. But

You're gonna you're gonna spoil things, Ben. I'm sorry.

I forget that.

So are we is there are you saying that it's c g

CGI, or is it another

Mister Is he froze or am I froze? Hector.

Things flex freezing a little bit here.

That first frost of the year, things are getting a bit chilly. How you doing?

Man, I'm I'm not looking forward to a forced frost over here in Cali. We got the we got the harvest coming up, man, and

We had a we had a we had a 12 hour torrential downpour. I mean, this is actually Was that not crazy, Romy?

It was, but then I think about the hurricane that Florida just went through, and I was like, oh, wait. Hold on. Zip.

But for Cali, it was pretty nuts.

Dude, but so nice because that ended fire season. It's still moist around here. Now we aren't even worried about fire.

Yeah. What we had to get ready. And to go around and tie up a bunch of plants on my like, all these fat buds were hanging over

Branch is snapping. I'm just like, oh,

that's a half oh, anyways, but man,

yeah, the brain.

Oranges, baby.

Put them oranges in the freezer if they fall off.

Oh, I absolutely yes. Ben will definitely be chatting about the summer. You know what I'm saying?

But, Jim, I was curious, dude, about your friend with the Liberty Bell. Like, that's such an interesting

interesting

thing to have, happened,

on in April of 2001.

Like, have you talked to him since, like, he got out of federal prison?

Actually, I have never talked to him. He was, I met him kinda. He was sitting on the couch when I went to visit my friend who lived in Ashland, Oregon.

And,

Oh, wow. He was He was, like, really stoned. And so he couldn't really muster more than just, like, a what's a you know, like, an awesome

Hey. When I went went there. And they're like, he never cleans.

So he might not be as cool as as I my my imagination alluded him to be.

Yeah. I mean, it Hold on. You're trying to tell me that a dude that ran up and rang a giant federal

national monument

was also on drugs.

Allegedly.

Yeah. I'm trying to see if, I could find out if he actually

was in for for the whole ten or

or what, But that was that was a story. Federal prison, there's not a whole lot to,

to

Getting your sentence cut down for most things, it's pretty crazy.

Like,

when they're doing federal sentencing, that's The interesting thing is is, like, if you ever go to prison,

everybody hates going to state prison, but you don't wanna be sentenced to federal prison.

Federal prison for a lot of things is stiff. Like, they've got all kinds of things that are, like, 10 year mandible

mandatory minimums,

Which were a lot put in by Joe Biden, which is hilarious because then everybody's like, oh, the mandatory minimums

and 3 strike laws Decimated minority communities. Joe Biden, he's 4 minorities.

Like, he fucking authored that. It's the only thing he ever did politically. What is wrong with you people?

Okay. It looks like he went to,

He didn't go to federal prison. He went he served 9 months in the community correction center.

Not bad. I I hate. Bad. Yeah. That's I might have to I might have to get my hammer out, dude. That's like a short vacation.

Yeah.

Good connections. I I mean, you know, I'm

I 9 months, I spent 9 months in a in a daze. You know, sometimes I wake up, and I'm just like, it's literally been a year? You're fucking kidding me.

How much did the dude get for throwing the shoe at Bush?

Oh, he was killed. He was killed. You think?

Nah. Plus he was an actor. This was such a good movie. This was 80 Spider Fever. Yeah.

Yeah.

We should watch it on a movie night, one of these days. Absolutely.

Alright. So Wesley Snipes can bite me, though. What?

Why? Oh, yeah. He's he's such a douchebag. No. White man can jump, but the he's still a homie.

Him and Willie Nelson are both douchebags, you freaking IRS

representative

jackasses.

Like, they pretended all through that thing that, Oh god. Even Willie Nelson can't fight the IRS. He lost everything. No. He didn't. He didn't lose anything. That was an acting gig for the IRS, same with Wesley Snipes.

They're both IRS paid freaking shells,

you jerks. I mean, I don't know if you guys have you.

Personal income tax is constitutionally

illegal, people, and they were there to help push it. Make sure that you didn't try and get away with not Chipping into something you're not obligated to chip into.

I mean, if we can learn anything from Scientology,

that is the one thing.

Yeah.

Scientology.

Great. I know they handled it right. I think the Scientology

route handled the IRS. They're the only ones that really grabbed the IRS by the balls, And they were like, let's go. I

I'd be curious to see the, the interaction between the, the found you know, the the The

the relationship between the IRS and

the the roots of Scientology.

You know? I mean, because With L. Ron Hubbard and and all of his rich, rich, rich, rich, rich, rich, rich, rich, deep pockets,

you know,

Did don't you guys have a big old, big old home to some Scientology,

church there in in Florida, Jane? Oh, yeah. Cruise boats and churches.

I think that, Ronald Hubbard, that was the whole reason that he made Scientology is because he wrote more words than any other author

ever. And he was poor as dirt. So he was like, I gotta figure out something better than just writing.

And so we became a real legend. Prolific

Fiction writer ever on the planet. The most prolific It's it's because they paid him per word for those,

those books that he wrote, the pulp, sci fi books, they Mhmm. They paid per word. It was a letter. They paid, like

so he just, like, cranked it out.

Vocias.

Yet again, another I will write all my connections to the to the roots of the castle.

Dude, I my I had an uncle that was, like, damn your religious about Dianetics.

Like, his presynetology,

like, That was, like, his first swing at religion,

and it was an almost religion. Oh, god. He was all about it. And that guy was such a fucking loser.

Such a loser. I never seen anybody that could, like, disappear money like that, dude. I feel like around 1998,

that Dianetics This book was all over every commercial.

All the rage, dude.

All the rage.

Every fat man in the church. Of Jesus Christ and Latter day Saints commercials.

Yes. It was like, you tell one lie, it leads to another. You tell 2 lies to cover for each other. Brought to you by the church of Jesus Christ in Latter day

Saints.

That is so gold. I need we need to we need to need to get that and put that behind us in sick beat.

It's a chilled out just like a hip hop trance, you know, Some subtle congas in the back

and just, yeah, repeat on repeat. They had a couple of those weird commercials with songs.

Oh,

yeah. Came on during, like, Saved by the Bell.

Genetics.

Oh, wow.

Oh, yeah. It's from 1988.

I don't know. They're pushing that, though. Oh, yeah. The commercials, the books. Through that.

Wow.

Dude, Dianetics was huge. If you were a failed middle aged dude,

Dianetics was the book for you. Oh, that wasn't

line? Never

mind.

It got that old top of down there there.

That is a Mandela effect that got me, I must say, from that movie with Tom Cruise sliding in with his t shirt on. He doesn't have sunglasses on, and I'm like, what the Fuck.

My my whole life, I'm like, he has sunglasses on in that scene. That's the costume. It's the socks, the white shirt, the sunglasses.

Yeah. But he doesn't, and that's Why would he be wearing sunglasses inside?

Because he's dancing to old time rock and roll like a little bitch in a white t shirt that should be ironing and making me some breakfast.

No joke though. A girl in that same white t shirt, the same outfit he's wearing in that movie,

if a girl has that on, I'm like,

How cute is she? Yeah. Absa fruit. Absa fruit. But still Tom Cruise.

I know.

He's so fem.

He's so little.

Yeah. I was gonna say what he's he's a solid 35. Right? He's such a cute little midget. But oddly taller than Joe Rogan still.

Okay. So just Rogan was in my drink that

night. Oh my gosh.

It was weird. Did he did he give you the ghost finger, Romy?

No.

But,

funny enough, actually, I think Jared was in that dream too. If Jared is watching or listening, it was Juan,

Joe Rogan,

and, like, I

it was it was, like,

Jared

popped in, and there was, like, some sort of strange film that it would dude, I've been having some fucking tripped out dreams lately, to be a 100% honest with you guys. I don't know about anybody else in the vivid dreamery,

void paradigm that's been happening with your guys' sleep, but, I mean, it's been insane. I've I've had vivid

conversations with,

real

people and friends, like, in these dreams, and it's been really trained for the past week. So what what's anybody else got on on that?

Portal symbology

in mine. Yeah. Yeah. Same. Portals and.

Same. Portal symbology.

Portal symbology.

Pyramids,

gold,

flying. What's this?

Here it is.

Yes. He does have sunglasses in it. He has sunglasses? I feel like I flipped back to a different

No. You were right though, Chaney.

There was a A girl in that outfit?

So cute. Dude, he does have some very girly legs there too. The whole thing. I mean, I'm telling you. Like, if I walked into the room and he was like, Stop. I'm ironing. I would be like

Hey. Hey. Hey, girl. You're about to take a pagan, boy.

Hey, girl.

Let me butter your cornbread.

Wait. A pagan or a pagan?

A pagan pagan?

I made a Christmas card 1 year that said,

it it was a pagan holiday, but I put Dildos all over.

And I spelled Pagan Pagan.

And I was like, this is offensive to so many people. It was, like, 3 wise men. It was it was on so many levels. It was offensive to, like, 4 religions at once. You got, like, a pirate up there in the corner. It's peg like Pete.

And, like, a nice pagan holiday.

Are you still there on his leg? I almost feel like looking for the picture now.

Please do.

No. I love that.

Yeah. We were looking at,

the outsiders

for some reason. Oh, Emilio Estevez. They were saying something, and we let looked up Emilio Estevez for Some for no I don't even remember why we did it.

Oh, because we're talking about short Hollywood actors. And and so The outsiders came up. I'm like, look. I think the tallest dude in that whole group is, like, 54. You got, like, Patrick Swayze

and and freaking,

Emilio Estevez

and Tom Cruise. You're like, every one of those dudes is just tiny little sawed off shits.

Hey. It's just amazing.

And then when we go to Danish days,

which is just north, you know, right that's All kinds of Hollywood people live there. Like, Christy and her whole family is like,

you know, they there should be a yellow brick road Down the damn side of the town, and they should all be singing little songs and stuff. These people are so tiny.

Them are very tiny people.

You're paying little babies.

Does anyone remember this movie, Black Dog with Patrick Swayze from 1998?

Nope. That's our Horrible movie. God.

Horrible movie. My ex wife made me watch it because every girl was in love with Patrick Swayze from Dirty Dancing where it was, like, all about child molesting and whatnot.

The only way it's so Child molesting and abortion. Don't forget that.

Does daddy like you said in the beginning of the year?

Don't put me in the corner.

The better version of Black Dog was,

again, another Sylvester Stallone movie over the

top.

Yes. Over the top black diamond style. High

eighties cheese.

Fine. You gotta do the thumb thing, like, you know, like this. That's just your only kind of armrest, and you you you move thumb over here and not

You're bitching your wrist. Like a diesel engine now.

Dude, eating cigar and then getting heartburn later.

I He's bigger than that other guy's head is than Sylvester's, dude. That guy's head is huge.

That guy's a beef.

That guy's a beefy, though.

Dude, I don't believe I understand.

Sure. That's also what's your salon doing. Biggie.

Yeah.

Stallone's hands.

So

now net I do have monster hands,

but Stallone's hands because at the at the Mall of America, he was one of the owners of Planet Hollywood, and they went up there There's some good looking mints. On these things.

And yeah. Right? They're saying I'm I'm dead sexy.

Stallone's hands were about this good.

Like, my first, like, my first knuckle. Like, I was like, what the fuck, baby hand boy?

Holding your hand up to the camera like that is a lesbian dick pic.

Right?

My class ring was a size 15 if that gives you an understanding of what you're actually looking at.

The the tetraxxics,

man. You got, you got many different,

Movable,

tiny phallic things at the end of these larger arm, limbs, and yeah. It's just I feel like sometimes, like, humans are related more to octopus than we understand. You know?

As above, so below.

Yeah.

Sticky little tiny tentacles on the talking about an octopus earlier.

If you could if you guys could morph any 2 animals together to be your sweet companion,

what would those 2

animals be? And then also maybe on top of that,

any sort of fancy adornment,

and smell.

What kind of smell protruding from this co captain of yours?

Are you trying to make us put our pocket bets on? Pocket bets,

I hope it make us tell what our potty events are. Can we talk about that? If you could genetically hybrid any 2

animals, mythical or not,

together to be your co companion. Oh, you get to add mythical in? Yeah.

Like, why even do that? Come on. You know, Minotaur

meets unicorn or, you know, what have you. Or as simple as a parakeet meets a, a midi corn? Yeah. A midi corn. Oh my god. A snuffle lump?

Oh, what is it? Oh,

there's too many pockets. I can't this video is triggering me. Please. Oh god.

What is happening?

Pocket Pets. Falcor.

Pocket Pets.

Oh my goodness. A mini Falcor. Stuff it in his tongue.

A falcore chihuahua,

prison pocket pets.

I would totally take

and cross

Dien Highbar,

The black Panther

from the from the dark elf trilogy,

and I would cross that with the dragon from legend to human from Dragonlance series.

Fucking

yeah. Yeah. And then it would smell like frankincense and myrrh.

Nice.

I don't know.

It's tough.

I know dragon. Once you say dragon, it's like it has to be something mixed with a dragon.

Yeah. Who am I?

Yeah. Kathy Bates.

Mix with the dragon? Mix with the dragon. Is great. Man, that misery, she was so fucking scary. That is that's like a guard dog. Like, Just the idea of what she did to that dude's ankles.

Like, holy cow.

Yeah. Ankles are sacred, man. I mean, they're book, she cuts them off. She doesn't break them. She doesn't hobble them. Mhmm. Like, she actually cuts them off. Cuts the feet of the ankles. Prefer that. Feet off At the ankle, instead of breaking, instead of putting the, like, log in and hitting them with the hammer, she cuts them.

That's really almost better, Really?

I am. Ugh. Yeah. That image of him putting a 4 by 4 between his legs.

Yeah. Like like, things get amputated. That's your number 1 fan.

No, ma'am.

No, ma'am. No, ma'am. No, ma'am.

The OA. Cheese to Wanda.

I would be the OA. From fried green tomatoes.

And falcor

combo. The OA and falcor? What's an OA?

It's the show. The original angel. Awesome angel.

Oh, it's balcony?

Dude, I didn't know this.

Oh my

god. The fuck is this?

Wow. Got yours. What is that? What is that?

Bad Santa 2? You guys. The homunculus? That's me after the new world order.

That's so true. Now I gotta watch that. That's me

30 years from now

when it's Mad Max in the Thunderdome.

Nice.

Oh, who runs? Yeah.

Harder,

Unsinkable is what they're gonna call me.

Okay. How about a race? At an octopus. It's a classic combo.

Yeah.

You know, you you could be an octopus. You can fly and also live in caves.

Underwater and upside down?

That's pretty awesome.

That's like how I sleep at night. Like, just

I

these are dreams On the next level, when you when you,

raise your feet above your head.

By choice? You raise your feet above your bed by choice? Mhmm.

Absolutely. You could put your feet up against the wall,

do some good diaphragmatic breathing,

or alternate nostril breathing, and you will have some sweet, awesome, amazing sleep and handsomeness of breathing.

Like Oh, yeah. I gotta tell you what. Romy is not a small dude, and that dude is flexible as hell.

I I have seen him just casually do things that are just

shocking

for a dude like that.

Yeah. I'm I yes. I'm I'm blessed to have a serpent spine

thing. Is that all locked behind your Patreon?

Oh, that's the Only Oh, so it's OnlyFans?

I was

Lots of hair spikes.

So so many I I can take my head off,

Play basketball with it, shoot hoops with it,

dive down tiny little toilet holes, and go and,

and transport through,

those little, black,

portals from,

from Roger Rabbit. All along the the superpower.

You're

You're defining your your, superhero

origin right now. This is this is awesome. I love this. I can see this in the The official handbook of the Marvel Universe, the old the old one where it was where it's real, it just takes off its head. We need a good name for you, Robbie. Actually, Roman. Oh. It's it's

ghost finger. Ghost

finger. That's his.

Oh my goodness.

Alright. I've been incredibly vulgar with my little time here tonight. I would like to apologize for everybody about,

dropping some Oh, that's here. You're

you're apologizing? You know what? Oh my gosh. I'm being sincere as well. Who are you talking to? Don't even think twice about it. This is locker room What is this? Liberal.

I'm not liberal with that ghost finger, though. You're feeding me.

Wow. Not yet. Like, yeah. My name's ghost

finger now.

See, Chaney will be dying the whole time. The liberal leftist ghost finger.

Like, Shani and I know what they really means, though.

SS ghostfinger.

USS Ghostfinger.

Got lost in the Bermuda. We never found again. Plummeted. True.

We can only hope. Hey, Ghostfinger. You wanna get lost in the Bermuda Triangle tonight?

That's the first that's the first enemy battle.

The quarter point.

And that was actually Patrick's the ghost was Patrick's crazy from ghost, and that's what was going on when he wrapped his arms around Demi Moore. That was just me a ghost singer. How are you feeling, Leila? Oh, fantastic.

I'm just Yeah.

Don't put me off the Don't put me on the

spot ghost finger.

Face ghost finger.

Good evening. Is that 1990

Space Ghost?

Oh, Space Ghost?

That was that was pretty funny.

Yeah.

The Space Coast,

after hours coast to coast. Yeah. That made me laugh. That was good.

Space Ghost.

Does anybody remember the original Space Ghost?

Yeah. Space Mites? And the space that's on this Barbera cartoons were the best, man. Yeah. They are. Good.

That and the Herculoids, man. It used to come on the ESA Cartoon Express. It was just great.

Do you guys remember that? USA Cartoon Express?

No. Yeah.

It was on USA, and that's where all these cartoons came on. And there was, like, the Herculoids, and there was Samson and Goliath, and there was, like Yeah. Yeah.

When is your home That was all during the rerun.

That was reruns from the all the because back then, we did I remember when Scooby Doo was a new thing. Like, Anna Barbera cartoons were basically the only cartoons.

And then and then Scooby Doo was like, you had to get up at, like, 6 o'clock in the fucking morning to watch Scooby Doo. Like, you had to be up early, and that was the only day you got to sleep in, but you still got up because Scooby Doo was gonna be on.

What? Is there is there a third is there, like, is it h?

Is there something else between the Hanna Barbera, like, we miss? Is there, like, a secret letter?

Dude, no. Not in the cartoon.

Cartoons suck now? Like, what the fuck? Cartoons suck now. Like, they do It kinda sucked then. I mean, Hannah Barbera was using the same same cells over and over and over again. The they were using the It's George of the Jungle. It

was garbage. Speed Racer.

Do you remember, like, speed racer? That was very There was some show that was like a Hanna Barbera race,

and it was all the car Tunes and they were Yes. Stellar music. That was, laugh Olympics?

Laugh Olympics. That was the greatest. I love that shit.

Georgia

a classic, Allen. That's a classic right there. I'm so happy Brendan Fraser's back on a timeline.

He was great.

God bless you, baby. Pleasure.

I love that guy. The mummy always returns. For real. The best movie man for life. Time.

Jim, what is the what is the best movie of all time, Jim?

The mummy. The mummy. Mummy? Mhmm.

What are your all three favorites, like, individually? What's your favorite, like, I like, favorite movie ever? Oh, god.

Ooftas.

Thirteenth Warrior.

Mine is the original,

Count of Monte Cristo.

Good one. Yes. Good one. The long one.

The really long The Jim Convitzel 1?

The both. The the first version, but then, the newer version that they came out, there's

Awesome. It was good too. Yeah.

Mhmm. That was really good. Really good.

I don't know. The short version, they cut out all the good, You know, parts that you really wanna, you know, learn that's in the book,

they cut a lot of that out in the movie, The newer version. One of my favorite books all time. Such a badass story all around.

I like the shining forwards and backwards simultaneously.

What happens when they need help? Do that again? Because I missed that. Yeah. We should do that again.

Perfect.

We you start the the shining, And then simultaneously,

there's

a a half like, a transparent version of

The Shining playing at the same time only starting from the very end, and it's playing backwards, and they over overlay each other.

And

They

work together

perfectly.

Like, they're framed. So, like, when one of the characters in the forward moving

Moving portion looks over to the right. They're staring at something terrible happening on the left side,

And there's this place where they they line up,

and, like, it's clear for a second. And that's, like, right at the moment where, like, everything starts happening.

And it's like you're watching the movie

forwards,

and

it's like the little boy,

Danny Terrence is having these

he's because he's having these, like, psychic visions, and he's, like, seeing

the violence,

Like, before it happens.

What the fuck? Yeah. It's insane. It's insane. God, the meant

to be like that. Kubrick is so next level beyond, like, beyond a doubt that, you know, like I mean, we know for many, many, many of the reasons that Kubrick was,

You know, massively next level with all of his sweet gifts from,

the many, many high up echelons,

And to be able to,

to work it on the collabs that he was able to work on, I'm I have no I have no no doubt that that

Was intentional. That's crazy. I'm gonna have to do that. How do you how do you play the one backwards? Like, just find a version online or, like, how do you actually Go back to about a movie group. We meet on Friday night sometimes. If you wanna get involved with that, just,

to be when no one ask 1, knock, knock, figure it out. We're around. We're available in Telegram. Movie group.

Weaving Spider's

welcome web.

Mhmm.

Yeah. And I think it'd be totally doable to make a movie like that because before they make a movie, they storyboard everything, and they Draw, like, pretty much a graphic novel comic

of, like, every every minute, every second of

What is gonna be on the screen? And so you could easily

copy it and overlay it backwards and just,

you know,

Art

direct the movie to to actually work that way. It wouldn't it wouldn't really be that hard if you

If you if you thought about it a little bit.

And then The Shining, the Stephen King 2 of it all. Like, it's almost like you have If you were to take 2 really powerful

wizards out of our timeline, it'd be the like Yeah. Stanley Kubrick and Stephen King.

Steve King's body of work is up there. You think you think King is up there? I I The amount of story lines, if you actually look at Stephen King's body of work, you'll be blown away by the movies you don't even know that he's the one who wrote them. Yeah. He I'm stoked for the, he he's doing Something with the guys who did, the Duffer Brother Twins.

They're releasing the Talisman series that's gonna be done with,

Steven Spielberg's production company. So it's guys who did Stranger Things mixed with Spielberg,

mixed with Stephen King, and that should be coming out 2023. That's gonna be some next level shit. It's on the talisman series

to Stephen King. You know how Stephen King is so prolific?

He he he writes or he creates all the stories, but he has a team of writers

that flesh them out for him.

Sounds like, that's how the spiders are so per proficient.

That's right. Well, and and a lot of people don't realize

A lot of people don't realize, like, Chaney was saying that, like, Shawshank Redemption was a short story that he, wrote. That was actually I couldn't believe they made that into a movie. It was a Decent short story, but you wanna make sure series of Bachman books that he wrote under a ghost finger pen, and,

it there was, like, Some really if you read all the stories that he wrote, then, like, he has one about a school shooter, and he wrote it in, like, the sixties or seventies. It's it and it's it's pretty crazy. He's such a narrative pusher. He's a Tom Hanks.

Or

even the stand.

Oh, The Stand is dude, that was such a horrible movie too and so heavily Christianized.

But you gotta enjoy that it had,

the lawnmower man in it. That dude was so weird back in the day,

and that he was, like, the crazy guy, Like, riding around with, like, a nuke strap to him. Gonna destroy everything. It was great. Remember, he played the he played the retarded guy in, Creepshow.

Jordan Ferrell, you long head.

The weirdest roles.

Yeah. He went full retard. That's Stephen King.

I'm about to pop off y'all. Thank you guys for, allowing me to join the stream. Much love. Mahalos.

Thanks for coming. Nice talking to you. Hey, buddy. Yeah. We'll we'll all take a short break. We have an intermission video here.

Okay. Alright. Alright. Peace.

Alright. Break time?

Yeah. We're gonna force it this time for real.

Alright.

Alright. Alright. Alright. Alright. Alright. Alright.

Luna,

Do you have time to sing a goodbye song before you go?

Always good.

You've never had a nice day.

Oh, well.

The reason that I placed on the team seems to be

We'll be back in 6 minutes.

Do you have time to sing a goodbye song before you go?

Always.

There is a nice day.

There in the big blue house.

Oh, well.

The reason that I placed on the teeth seems to be working

Making his choice appear during He's

not Jesus

The nightmare is almost over.

Sleep with your feet in the air.

We're gathering it again for part 2.

Welcome to Spider Dream Land.

This is my miniature luck dragon.

Ah. Look at him.

Nice.

Look at it. It's so cute.

This thing is so ugly. It's cute. But this is a little road dog.

I manifested I wanted the yellow dog with a pink nose once, but I was picturing, like, a yellow lap. And this dog just showed up at my work one day.

But she's rad. Like, I don't have to ever put a leash on her or nothing.

So I made it

We made that mistake one time of my daughter manifested a black chihuahua.

Like,

She was asking for a black chihuahua, and I'm like, nope. We're not getting a dog. We're not getting a dog.

And

My wife said,

honey, if you, you know,

if you just pray for it. See see what happens. And

Her friend calls. She's like, hey. We have this little black dog. Wanna see

if you like it or not, you know, see See what happens? I'm like, no. We're

we're we're going to you over to your house anyway, but we're not taking the damn dog.

And the dog comes up straight to me

It was like, oh, you're the best. I'm like,

we're taking a black dog home. Yes. You are.

And she was awesome, man. It was a little,

just walked right out of the desert to this guy.

And,

she was beautiful. Did you say

Chiu weenie?

Chiu weenie. Yes. I I was I I you beat me to it. I was also like, do you say Chiu weenie? I said Chiu weenie.

A chihuahua

Come here. And Frankenweenie.

Come here. Come

here. Marm Marmalade. Come here.

This is oh, come here. Alright,

goobs. Did you call it marmalade?

Marmalade. Her name is Marmalade.

That is awesome.

This this is actually the daughter of

of the dog that was manifested. This is Marmalade.

The other one's the mother's name was,

Nightingale.

Mar.

But, she's is a most excellent name. He's 12 now.

And, so that's what a looks like. It's a it's a,

Well, like dachshund dachshund,

chihuahua.

The Hawthorne balls. Pocket. I just

they're

a mix.

Chaweene.

If I had a black chihuahua, I'd name it Patrick Swayze.

That is fucking awesome.

Jim, over here wrestling goats.

Why would you name a black chihuahua a plaid trick squeeze?

I gotta know.

It's a black dog reference.

Oh, it's it's a fallback. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. Good fallback. Okay.

We're all like They're not all good.

That part of the What roadhouse? Holiday. Summer. There we go.

I even made it stained glassesque.

So if anyone wanted to put it inside their church.

A jam packed paganite. Projectchaney.com.

Now that's a real Oh, okay. Web page. This is draws Just back to the blue because she made all all the penises blue.

Blue dicks.

Yeah.

I did not see those until you pointed them up to Yeah.

Or even

or even, like, the only color thing in there. Everything else is only, like, Vaguely colored and the blue kinda stands out.

Like, he's like, I'm not gonna notice the only highly colored thing.

I'm sending in the clear

I've been like, woah.

Seems like such a nice city.

Good people.

Like, did you see all the penises on the walls? We're all grown here. I sent the unstained glass version too.

Oh,

shit.

What's that guy's deal? Do we come to any conclusions about Salabedon

Malasevic?

Salabedon

Who exactly is he? He's a serving president.

Oh, yeah. And Oh, yeah. During the war with Bismarck,

Bosnian, you Cool. Smoke. He was, like, responsible for both of them.

Yep. Yep.

Good stuff.

Interesting stuff.

So I think he died in 2007.

I think that's the one never changed. Died? Uh-huh.

Oh, lovely.

But you know who didn't have his eyes? Henry Kissinger.

Yeah. So fucking tied that one. How is that guy still alive? That's amazing. For real. Dude, It gets carried in on a special, like, thrown into the Bilderberg meetings. They're like, you are the most evil of evil sons of bitches. See Man, you get carried in. Other evil sons of bitches carry you on your shoulders on a throne like a paladin.

Like, you are so evil. You are the King of evil sons of bitches. I think well, there's enough of us in this room.

Andy's easy. The older they get, the easier it is.

I think we could totally kill Henry Kissinger with a mild me magic spell. We're doing it now. Mhmm. Done. It's like how that's just how we can clean. Give him Two more liver spots. At least give him a couple more liver spots. More.

In your web browser, go to t.meforward

slash s weaving spiders to then find your way to Chaney in Wonderland

and other associated Telegram chats where all the magic happens.

Yes, sir.

I did not notice the glitch.

Your own official

Christianized

Venus

thing.

Make your own Christmas cards.

Yeah.

Yeah. You're muted, Chaney. Your mic on? Chaney. We have to hear you. No. We're reading lips. Keep going. Oh, wait. Yeah. That's the only thing I can do. At the top,

where there's, like, the star

and where it says jam packed. Those are all little dicks around there too.

Come back up, Allen, please.

I'm looking at pictures of Henry Kissinger. There's a really clear one too. He's sexy.

You can kill him easily.

Oh, yeah. This is this is the joke I was I was,

Gonna say when you were on with, my Maria,

when you're talking about pegging Biden,

how easy would it to be to to give him, panda eyes?

Pretty amazing. Oh, wow. He looks like Jonah Hill right there.

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Yep. Gosh. Does his hands,

do anything for anyone?

Got a pencil here.

Sharp Point. What time is it on his watch?

Good question.

He's fine. What are his cupcakes? Hands and hands and hands.

Time to die.

Too much of a glare.

What are those cufflinks?

That's great.

The mystery of Kissinger.

Hank Kissinger.

Did he shake hands or slob it on?

Oh, you bet. Slob it on. Slob it on. Did you wanna just flip the earlobes, though?

Giant, gigantic assay earlobes.

That goat's earlobes?

It's slobber dog. No. Oh, those 2. Look at that. Kessinger's?

There's that blue.

There it is.

It's that communication color. They like that blue. They're like, oh, blue. Communicating message. Clogging his arteries while you're showing me this picture.

Oh.

I'm like, go to the for sending his earlobes.

Means

freedom.

But see.

In what language His name literally means freedom.

Slobodan.

Yeah. It's a scripted character for the theater of war.

Folded there.

Slobodan.

What's the goat's name, Jim? This is Jupiter.

You. What do I call her?

She's the runt of the triplets, and so they beat her up. And so she always

She wants to head butt anybody that that comes around or any new faces because she wants to not be the runt anymore. So she's

Super testy.

She she got her a chunk bit You're the bitch now. Not me anymore. It's you.

Head butting a dog.

Learn her lesson.

Yeah. Dogs of war.

Learn their lesson.

See, we just need we can at least get some more liver spots, It's like around the eyes there.

Mhmm.

You know, maybe try to get one.

Yeah. Try and get one, like,

maybe I Cannot.

Gorbachev had? They that birthmark of Gorbachev, just a giant

giant

Labor spot.

Gorbachev just died this just recently, didn't he?

No. I think he just died recently.

Possible. Architected

the downfall of, the Soviet Union.

So Russia.

Russia. Mhmm. Yeah. August August 30, 2022.

So Russia.

Russia. Russia. Russia. Russia. Just in 30th.

30th. So, like, a month ago.

What is really going on?

His birthmark's

still alive, though.

That that that just the Gorbachev died, but The the the head thing that that is still there.

Sure.

It's

currently looking for a new home, a new host.

It's

living in

Antarctica. It's kinda likes vacationing in the Caribbean.

It's rich. No. You're a hooker.

Some people say Caribbean.

Oh, lord.

Looks like Florida.

Oh, is this gonna say the same thing? Dangling a little bit.

The more Florida or more Italy? I can't quite see it. Yeah. It it's the thing from not not the new Total Recall, but your old Total recall when he opens up the thing and this dude little dude comes out of his stomach. In private, it comes out of that spot on on his head. Is that a liver spot or a brand?

No. That's a birthmark. He's he's had that the whole time. Oh, okay.

What is And actually, Putin

Putin was,

some type of the

protege of his,

which is really interesting.

Your skin doesn't even look like because he's the one who oversaw the

He's the one who oversaw the dismantling of the Soviet Union,

and then, Putin's the one who came back in and stabilized Russia.

Because for as much as,

the American media

and Alan Greenfeld,

oh, yeah. I just bought into this crazy Russian story.

When the Soviet Union fell apart,

all the eastern block countries, they were piecemeal just using raping and pillaging in those, and Ukraine's still

in that. And they

Wasn't very long ago, they had a giant,

overthrow of the government, which implanted the current government,

Including the,

Azaz battalion

Nazis,

which is awesome to see standing up there with the Jew.

It's just awesome. Like, Not teasing Jews and friends. It's like watching the whitest kids you know video.

Yo.

Crazy.

Well, what do you guys think is gonna happen, like, with all of this in the pipeline and

Well, the US is supposed to fall, and that's why they're setting Russia up as the moral leader. This has all been planned out. Yeah. Every bit of. And and during this time period,

you look, they make I mean, Putin, you can't hardly not like him. I like In this time of extraordinarily

emasculate of course, you you're meant to like him. That's a program.

And in this time of extraordinarily

emasculated man, here comes Putin, like, riding on a fucking bear, like, bare chest.

Yeah. No. And he's kicking Monsanto out of the country. He kicked the Rothschilds

out of the country.

He,

paid off the the debt.

He's standing up to the he stood up to COVID. He stood up to, You know, the United States and blah blah.

And and then

even out of in the political arena,

the actual reason for this conflict starting

Was,

Ukraine suppo

supposedly making a hard drive to join NATO?

Well, during the Fall of the Berlin Wall and the fall of of the Soviet Union,

part of the treaty,

which is one of the arguments I had with that retard, Greenfeld,

is that

that you could not have a NATO state touching Russia.

So Russia proper was to be free of

Allied forces. So they can't surround the country with bases like they did with Iran. And that was part of the treaty to keep from going to war. That's what a treaty is is we will go to war if this does not if this happens.

So

then

no. Obviously, Ukraine is not allowed to be part of NATO at that, And you can even find a speech from during that time period,

stop,

where

Joe Biden

was a senator at the time, and pea people were worried about war with Russia. And he said the only thing that would provoke Russia Was if an eastern block country,

attempts to join NATO, and that's never gonna happen, so we're never gonna have war with Russia, and here's Joe Biden over there pushing Ukraine being part of NATO.

So all of this is a setup that's been going on for years years.

The United States is supposed to fall as a superpower,

and we look,

the setup from NAFTA with Bill Clinton and so forth Allowed all the wealthy

to still benefit from the wealth of the United States,

but transfer it into other countries and have their businesses stopped.

Have their businesses

actually be in these other countries.

You motherfucker.

You're naughty.

The cat.

Oh, I gotta get load back on now. It's kicking me out.

Oh, no. Here we are. You're still here. You're here. Cat.

She is so naughty. I

As Nadia's But, yeah, this allowed them to make the world their playground.

And so the countries that rise and fall, they don't care about. And they knew that they wrote checks that they were not gonna wanna cash. When they, in the fifties, took

the young United States population

And sold them on this idea that when you get old, if you invest into all these systems, when you get old, you get to live free and never pay bills and stuff like that.

And,

now the United States population is old. It's time to pay those checks, and they're like, Joe, we're out.

And they moved all their businesses to younger countries where the population was once again young so they could sell all these Currently Asian, mostly young people

on this idea that we're gonna be good to you when you're old if you just work hard today.

And they're just reselling it. Now the United States is supposed to fall out of power, but they'll come back again into power when our when all the baby boomers die off, and We have a yeah. And,

all this social programming falls off and people start humping and having kids again because they got nothing better to do because they've turned it into a 3rd world country. Oh, yeah. Look at them dudes. Aren't them some awesome dudes? It's amazing that George Bush currently,

They're touting him as a as a hero in our media today. Like, do you remember when Obama got elected president? All he had to do was walk up and say, I'm not George

Bush. Look. I'm a black guy,

not an old white guy, and, like, he got voted in based entirely on not being George Bush. That's how badly the country hated that dude. And now it's like like, I'm not George Bush. I'm just a relation to him.

Yeah.

Literally.

Crazy. My grandfather is his

cousin.

That's how that's how they're related. Right? Something. 1st cousin or second cousin?

Them. All the presidents related.

That's my bush. I think this is some condescension.

Was the the South Park guys involved in that or something? Well, George w Bush was literally the butt of all the jokes.

They made a sitcom, a comedy about his White House. Didn't they have, like, a cartoon too?

I feel like that's true. Arianne live definitely just decimated Bush constantly, but he was an easy

Target.

Like, he made up words constantly, and it wasn't even good words like alchemic.

It was horrible words. Okay. You're like, what the hell did he just say? That was gibberish.

And one of my favorite

Strategic.

Yes. The.

Yeah. One of my favorite

is when he tried to leave a room and the door was locked, and he still just kept trying it. And then finally, like,

I don't know. He's the Let's try it. He's the far

side kid pushing on the

the this at the school of geniuses where he's pushing on the pole door.

Yes.

Totally. Totally. I'm a war veteran. Never mind. I never I was MIA the whole time snorting coke.

You

know George Bush could do that with the whole bag of Coke. Just

Oh, yeah. Yeah. For sure.

Good time, Charlie.

And he's like, I don't drink. But then, I there was this picture of, like,

a pallet full of,

Beers.

I I think it it seems like they're they were Alamo beers or something. I don't remember, but it was, like, some kinda special

brand that made me think of,

Texas beer. Texas beer. Yeah. And I was like, oh my god. Definitely his beers.

I'm sure he hasn't beer yet.

South Park started out in, what, 1998 as well? Is that the president's table?

A desk table? Oval office that they created. Oh, that's cool.

As well.

Yeah. That would be fucking sweet.

That would be sweet. What a weird social Matt and Trey are

men in dresses.

That's how I feel about South Park.

They've done the ritual.

Oh, yeah.

You are definitely not on,

Yeah. Thank you. Any kind of you know, they own media, and you do not get to be play in their playground unless you have passed the rules. That's just just a fact. Comedy Central is 33.

Yeah. CC.

Basketball.

You know what's very interesting about that?

You wanna get you wanna you wanna

you ready, Jim? You better be listening, brother.

I'm listening.

Right after,

miss Twyman died,

and

A certain someone's name

was left in a dead man's switch letter.

Said name person from the dead man's switch letter got a Comedy Central

spot and was speaking on actual Comedy Central.

Wow.

And who was it?

Oh, Greg Carwood.

Oh.

Oh, really? Oh.

Really?

Interesting. Yep.

Yeah. You don't remember Twyman left his name in the dead man switch, and then right after that, he actually had a special on Comedy Central, Like, within, like, a month of her dying. Really? All of a sudden, he's on Comedy Central.

Yeah. Did not know that. I didn't know that. Yeah. That was a

Definitely.

Yeah.

Things to think about. Wanna start a conspiracy?

Yeah.

There are some names in the conspiracy realm that have had

a very easy time in the conspiracy realm.

All it takes is a sacrifice of a loved one.

Literally.

Well, it seems like the big blowing up guys

Are a little questionable

if you ask me.

Is there Little Anybody who's anybody who's making

A serious living in this business

is,

Can you see it?

Greg Carlwood, Comedy Central, 24 hour live Stream is a comedian?

Wow. I don't even see that. He's How is he a comedian?

Yeah. He's not.

Yeah.

Maybe

it reads,

so comedian Trevor Moore, Trevor Moore taking a nap or something during the segment

decided to host a live stream

for 24 hours straight leading up to the release of his comedy special on 4/20.

The premise of the show was that every hour, they would solve one of the world's problems.

I was lucky enough to be invited, but with less than 24 hours notice, I wasn't prepared to drive up to LA for a 4 AM spot. They told me the topic was paranormal. But when I got on the air, they said ghosts, which, of course, my least favorite of things Under the paranormal umbrella. So this

is Fireside Chats posting to Steam It 4 years ago.

We also had technical difficulties, which screwed things up. But, hey, I use Skype for a living, so it ain't me.

I could hear the sound looping the whole time, Which is also why you see me trying to pull back my headphones when I was speaking to distracted by the feedback. Still happy to have done it despite the issue.

So that might still be available

online. Interesting.

Mhmm.

Yeah. I'm sure. How I know how you guys

THC is how I met Yeah. How I know Ben

And Lindsay.

And,

what's the snow slow music day guy?

Steve? Steve Poikerman.

Yeah. Yep.

Yep. He's been tabbed on you. You've been telling. Honestly and honestly,

I got I to be honest, despite my, issues with him personally

And some of the things I think about him,

like, I think,

outside of Andy Kaufman, he's the only other dude I would probably actively call a shill.

But he's also he's also the best. Like, the it's amazing. He he really

Goes through the other people's research,

and the questions that he asks makes them sound good.

Like, if you go and and, again, I have a show now, and I'm also,

just my own researcher. So some of the shows he put on, I wanted to go

Continue research after I'd seen a guest

or heard a guest,

and

you go to look at their research afterwards. You're like, Jesus.

Greg really picked the cherries out of this. Like, the rest of it's garbage.

And so he's really just the best at it. I I honestly,

like I said, despite I really despise the guy as a person, but,

as a show host,

for on a professional level,

I don't think there's anybody better. I really don't.

And, yeah, a bunch of us got together just because of him. Like,

there was a chat

that was based around

Yeah. Lindsay started that That chat that's how Rogueway started. Was that Not really. But road? Was that the talking higher sides? So it's there was, like, there was, like, there was, like, a big deal of us that started it, and it wasn't based around rogue ways. Lindsey goes through little episodes where she just, like, go cycle a little bit, and we all do, but she kinda holds on to it. But it wasn't a rogue waste thing at all. That didn't even exist back then. No. It didn't. There was, like, 50 of us, and we were and this was when the great purges has started.

And,

so we were actually worried that the chat was gonna get purged because Greg didn't really have anything to do with it. In fact, we even had it even had to be post.

Yeah. So we so and it wasn't even a split that was in we actually had started it as a side group, and there was about, like, There was, like, 50 of us that used to chat really regularly on different research subjects.

And,

We didn't wanna lose our chat, so we created it as a backup that we didn't even really use and called it eyes open and Mhmm. Completely detached it from anything else. So that way, if all the other stuff went down, we would all have, like, a fail safe bail place.

And, Greg Carlwood Found out about it and lost his ever loving Uh-huh. Freaking mind.

And just, like, went on a holy baby tamper tantrum.

And, so we ended up just like bailing on his. We're like, well, really,

this didn't even have much to do with you. He never actually went into the chat or anything. It just was a convenient place where we talked about conspiracy and stuff. So we all bailed over to this other one, and that's where a lot of us, like Gordy and a whole myself and a whole lot of other people met and came together.

It it was pretty awesome.

But,

yeah. Yeah. That was just a fail safe because of that, but it was all Started through Greg Carwood. It was a thing based off of his show.

And he just had he does. He has a top notch show,

gets on really cool, guess,

but personally can't stand the guy.

That's where the whole beard,

Beardtaria thing

came. He started calling a bunch of he started calling a bunch of people,

Neck beard basement dwellers.

Yeah.

That's what that was the comment that pissed everybody off.

Yep. Yep. Actually,

there is,

on the internets,

there's a thing of me just lighting Carlwood up because that was A friend of mine that he he was basically directly saying that about.

And, you know, and depending on what time of year it is, sometimes I have a really huge Beard. I'm like, who the hell are you calling neck beard? You hipster little shit. Yeah. You know, you quasi famous little cunt.

Yeah. You know, just lit that dude up.

And this was before that. And the funny thing was, okay, at the same time period,

he had forced his best friend onto the other group. So there was other real weird stuff going on over there. And his best friend,

like, totally lost his ever loving mind and went around Calling everybody in the group child molesters.

Like, anything you had on your page made you a child molester, and he was going and, like, totally

Trolling other people's,

you know, per social medias and anything he could pull out of there that was somehow connected to child molesting,

Made them a child molester. Like, I'm one of the ones that got hit by that dude. Kyle is it serious was his name. And,

Oh. I was a child molester because my my profiles as a job title had chicken wizard.

I'm like, I have, like, a 100 chickens that constantly live with me and wizard.

Like, I don't know what to say here, bro.

Like, you know, but

he made it out like I was a little boy molester

extraordinarily because of

raising chickens and having a big beard

and stuff.

Yep. And he had to be institutionalized

for a little bit that Kyle isn't serious, but Greg forced him on the rest of us. And then come to find out that,

Kyle, is it serious? Greg

and this other fella all got named in Tracy's dead man's switch letter.

And

freaking,

Yeah. Everything, all of that happened at the same time in the very same time period. It was a super creepy time. And right when I was starting my,

adventure into this, and I was like, wow.

Wow.

And the only reason I didn't worry about nothing's because I live off grid out in the middle of nowhere. You can't sneak up on me. You would have to be like a magic ninja.

So about that time, I was

institutionalized too,

but that was by choice. That was by choice.

But,

everything was falling apart with

in my life too. I so I disappeared about that time,

then went to rehab right after.

Then

I get out,

Get clean

and,

and then

Tracy died.

Freaked us all the fuck out because, I mean, I felt like she was one of us. You know?

And,

so

because of that

And I had had,

you know, credible threats.

I had to I felt like I had to tell my story, so that's when I went on roadways and

And told everything

Wow.

In 2019.

Wow.

Such an interesting year.

That was such a weird foray into this.

Yeah. Like I said, I would have been more scared, but I live in the middle of nowhere

and off grid. I'm prepared for these kind of things. You you can't just, like,

Off me or something. That's not gonna happen. There's no casual way to do it.

They have a ways.

Yep.

Yep. They do. But most of us robot Peacock almost got you.

Yeah.

Henry, you son of a bitch. And then their second attempt, The Nazi German Shepherd.

Yes.

Exactly.

They don't realize we tough around here. We tough.

That was a crazy thing with that German shepherd too. Like that dog, even the Mexican.

The the the and the worst part is is the the big dogs because then everybody's like, where was Tyr? He was with me. I was actually off the farm going out getting supplies.

And so

most of the dogs were with me, so she was by herself. Like, lucky no moment or also Pack of pit bulls would've came charging as soon as Scotty was getting hit.

That's the mama dog. She's the mama of everybody.

Like, oh,

I swear that the dogs have been going up there and looking out at that fence since it's happened to all the rest of the dogs. Like, you motherfucker.

See, my wife just agreed too. She's like, they do. Like, they're they're waiting on it. Like, oh, you're gonna come attack mom.

You know, I hate being the only one talking and I feel like I overwhelm the conversation, but every time I stop, nobody else No. I don't know. It's his authority's favorite time. I was letting him enjoy it.

Exactly.

He loves the awkward silence. He was just basking in it like robins.

Yeah. I can't do it.

Oh, I can't do it instead of actually, when I started right after, the,

eyes open thing,

Rather than doing podcasts, I got actually got picked up by a TV station and the biggest, pagan radio station in the world.

And

I was so I was taught out the gate, you don't leave a one second of dead air is a problem.

Like, 2 seconds,

They actually boot you off air.

Wow.

So

yeah.

So it makes me extra uncomfortable.

Like, hold on.

Oh.

Lindsay,

Sharmen actually made me comfortable with dead air

because she'll just take some time and look something up and not even care. And I'm like, I just enjoy the space she's taking. Like, she's not feeling rushed. She's not feeling, like, pressured.

It's fine.

And I just am kinda like, oh, I like the space between the words a little bit.

That's dope.

You also look something up? She's a breeze. Same thing. Yeah. I get nerve if I get nervous or around someone, I'll start talking a lot.

Like, for in person, I'll just keep talking

sometimes too much. Right now, I'm on listening mode because my mind is, like, everywhere right now.

Like, I'm just vibing. Putting the pieces together. We'll jump in when we have something to add. Yeah. Don't wanna interrupt you, Balderson, when you're in the middle of something to get off your chest and To share all the details, and then we'll comment on it. Chime in

like a bell. You spit facts all the time. In Person in person, I don't talk very much.

Apparently, it tries other much. I barely talk. It reminds us to, back to the OG

o,

do you remember the OG?

What's the name of the episode where we had Bolderson on and we had a very frantic speaker who

when I directed questions

When I directed questions to Balderson, this person did not like the silence at all and would answer every question that was not directed at her

Before anyone else could have the

Well, the question is, yeah. Breathe and the swallow, the spit, and clear the mouth, and, you know, get ready to answer the question. And

She was just jumping in. It was just

everyone. No. No. No. No. No. No. Her name was Frantic Misty. I was like, wow. She's

Way too frantic for me. Like, nobody could get a word in edgewise with this one. And everything that she thought

related to a to a movie or a TV show. I mean, you guys do it way more than I would, but you're not like like this chick, like, everything. Do you do anything besides watch TV and get drunk, lady?

Like, but she had something to say about everything.

Right.

And part of that is the act of listening, and the act of active listening is to Actively listen and then to allow your thoughts to form in your mind without opening your mouth, letting words come out

Quickly. Like, just take a step back. Take a deep breath.

It's okay. We're amongst friends here. We don't need to

Continue

talking to fill all the silences.

Once let like, practice channeling.

Mhmm. Let the words come from a spot.

Yeah. Let the let the psychic messages ring ring true, ring through. We can hear them. Or if we're constantly talking over everyone, then we're not hearing

what's being said.

Let's add him. This.

Listen,

Jared's calling you, Chaney, the vampires or the slayer.

She is the vampire slayer.

Yeah.

Totally. Fucking hell.

Thank you to Thunder Chicken

on Rockman and Andrew B.

Having some good conversations there in the chat.

Rockman. I have a few different places where people are chatting and it's

sort of difficult to acknowledge all of that, but we appreciate it.

All the feedback just reach us. Maybe a little slowly.

Shout out to everybody in the chat who joins every week, man.

For real. Oh,

Lee Martin.

He's in the

chat.

Martin in the chat?

Yeah. Lee Martin. Andrew b?

The spiders chat alone is so intelligent.

Like, the amount of rabbit holes I go on just if I'm reading the chat. Sometimes I can't even listen because the chat's so good, like, when I'm watching.

Yeah. That's why I don't do the whole chat thing while I'm watching. I can't talk and read. Like, people don't realize even my big presentations,

like, because I do a lot of shows, and that's basically me talking for 2 hours. None of that's written down. All of that's stream of conscience.

It's all in my head, and I put it all together.

But I can't do that and fucking read at the same time. That just can't happen. But I always go back and read the comments the next morning.

Yeah. I can't look at the chat room and have a conversation like the same as listening. I can't

Listen and have a read.

It's tough.

It is tough.

It's jumping back and forth and missing sometimes. Jim's been doing it for a few years now.

How do you do it, Jim? What's the secret

To monitoring the chat, passing out the wrenches to everybody, making sure fires aren't

burning everything down. Making sure the screen's still streaming.

Make sure the Zoom's still zooming.

I go on lives. It helps me.

Oh, yeah.

On Instagram,

engage with people.

Definitely work to be talking and,

Streaming and, reading the chat at the same time is definitely tough.

I that's why I'm quiet so much.

Reading stuff. Looking at stuff.

It gets difficult too because, like, you're speaking on something and there's, like, more than one conversation. Shannon's like all great topics, and you're just, like,

all over the place, but

It's hard when the chat goes off topic.

Chat goes off topic, but not really as much

on this show lately. I mean

I don't understand

how Yeah.

Like, if you're hanging out with Lindsay Charmin and having a conversation with her and she's engaged the whole time, and then at the End of her show, she has a write up,

like,

that is concerned with the show, like, all the words in it. Like, whatever happened

in the episode or you chatted about is, like, in this And she wrote it a whole time.

Did does she? I'm like, sometimes I'm like, does she write this as we're speaking?

Like, how like, I've done it enough times with her that my head questions it. Like, how did she do that?

Organized

and good at it.

I was so great at it. But she does. She writes them ahead of time.

Like the opener,

I knew she wrote ahead of time,

but the closer

seems so relevant to the conversation that we actually had.

It'll even have, like, keywords of something that is just randomly brought up.

I don't know. It kind of it's magic. It is magic.

Lindsay Charmin. We've talked about her so much today.

Does she have a real web page? Is it roguewayzemore.

Dot

yeah. Yep. Is it dotorg?

ORG. Yep. K. It's a real alleged

Website.

Nice work, Alan. Yeah. Not understanding

this picture, Jim. Is this is this

Oh. Greg, do you need to get that? I don't understand what I'm looking at. About it. I'll tell you about it later.

Okay. Please do.

He's like, that was supposed to be on the deal.

So I've been asking a lot of people You know what? I don't DL Greg Carlwood at all. I got no respect. He's a punk.

And all, like,

He's he's always been rude to his to his fans at the very least. Like, back when he had a fan app, and that's how his whole show got basically bigger and how he was getting paid because Fans had an app and everything. He used to crap on the guy that made the app, like, every week. Like, I don't know how to fix it. It's just some fan app that a fan made. Blah blah. Like, dude,

like, somebody went out of their way to you I can't even imagine how hard it is to make an app. Can't even imagine and then keep it operating.

We have so many people. I appreciate about the guys that made it. That sucks.

We have so many people that contribute

To

what this live stream is, what this community is, helping other people with their podcasts, their audio editing, their video editing, just sharing tips. Everyone's learning together,

and we know that we're all improving.

And this is a hobby for all of us, so we're not expected To be professionals, we're not expected to have something witty to say, to fill every silence

with something entertaining, to Appeal to all the algorithms

to have the sound bite for the TikTokers.

We're adults having adult conversations, figuring it out as we go along,

Aaron, I agree. Vince is healing from childhood trauma, figuring things out,

unlocking memories, and just having a good time.

I'm asking the questions.

Yeah. How do I Angel, what are your questions?

I had they escaped my mind, man.

I'm like on this level and, like, they come to me and it's just like, boom. Next question.

Go.

Was it about Greg Cardwell? It's the shrooms, guys. My bad. It's the shrooms.

It'll come to me. It'll come to me.

And you're good. Oh, yeah. So I've been recently asking this question, and I just wanna know what you guys think because I'm asking everyone, and I don't know if there's a right or wrong answer.

But you ever seen when people say they get saved

and then they speak in tongues

and then some people say,

Oh, no. That's great. That's God, you know, connecting with them and they're speaking in tongues. And then a lot of people are saying that's the,

A dement demonic dark entity

coming through and speaking in tongues.

What are your thoughts, people?

Because I don't wanna know. Yes,

Alan. I'll go last

because I'll talk about this for hours. Please

like I've seen people people do this.

I've been at, like, youth groups when I was a kid, and it would always happen.

And it

it was always to the same people.

Like,

and it like, one of them was this girl, and she was, like,

Kind of a popular girl and, like, she really likes having attention, and then

she would

She would, like, speak in tongues, like,

get moved by the power, but, like, it didn't make any sense.

Like like, if it was like an actual language,

it would sound it would make sense. It it wouldn't sound like

That's only one of the gifts is to speak in tongue. A different gift is to understand

Right. The interpretation of tongues is a The interpretation of tongues is is always supposed to be there. That's that was One of the big things is there was Right. If it was real, there was also always supposed to be an interpreter there Yeah. Yeah. To share whatever that is to the to the congregation.

So Is that what you call that is a what you call that is a grift team?

Yeah. That's the Helen

thing. We're You know when you when you hear somebody

oh, go ahead.

No. You go ahead, Jim. You don't talk. You know when you hear, like, when you hear somebody Fake typing, and they never hit the space bar. And you're like, that's fake.

You know?

Or they never pause. So, like, they're like, I'm gonna Pretend like I'm typing, but then

you're like, they're not typing because they're just hitting like, there are certain things that are grammatical

In every language,

and

you can recognize

if something is a foreign language because

it has

Unless unless the language only had 3 words in it. 1 was ugh and the other one was, like, blah.

You know, I've I've heard so many stories. A lot of people said they've themselves spoken in tongues and they felt Like they were reborn and touched by God and happy and bliss and in love

in that moment.

And I I'm just like,

I'm not sure what it is. Like, I wanna know what that is. What happens in that state? There is that there is that skepticism.

Yes. Absolutely. And that's part of the experience.

They just arrived at

us. Jesus is making out with them.

It's it's a it's a it's a grip. And and, honestly,

especially when you're

it's a grift.

It's a grift. And when you're standing in a group, like I okay. So one of the biggest things to do in prison Mhmm. Because

in prison, if you don't go to these religious

Services which are in the evening, you are stuck in yourself. You can get out during the day to go get food and whatever,

and go to little jobs Sir, do whatever. Go to medical. But after supper, there ain't a damn thing to do. You are locked down unless you go to one of these little religious services.

And there's

one of the religious services has the Christians that speak in tongues, and inmates are actually pretty honest. But during the service,

afterwards, they'll tell you, no. I just didn't know what else to do. Everybody else was doing

you know, it it's no and then it's no different than, like, Helen Keller. Helen Keller had that,

Where she was born blind and deaf, but she somehow developed the ability to un to speak And had a British accent. Never heard British, but she had a British fucking accent.

Like and it's all from this other lady Doing it. Her and the subway doing this on a grill, and she just felt her neck.

It it's such a fucking grifty dumb story. It's so pathetic.

And that there is, I'm sure, some people that speak in tongues. Yeah. But 99.9%

of it It's no different

than there's a church that is supposed is one of the biggest churches on this entire thing and is famous for it right in Redding, right in Redding.

What the hell is the name of the church in writing, honey?

Is it like a That's cool. Thing? It's it's

Bethel.

No. It's a nonsense

thing. Why why would your community

energy start making use babble nonsense that nobody runs? That's the conversation that I've had. And some people compare that to, like, having your Kundalini awakening awakening the Kundalini spirit And then speaking into in tongues and moving in that arm. Okay. I I could see how they would relate that to, like, a throat chakra, like You're opening your throat chakra because you're exercising that muscle. So there's a lot of different aspects,

and it's a yes and yes and yes and It's not it's only this thing. It's not only a grip. It's not only a true spiritual experience.

A lot of times,

it might be seen as a curated

Spiritual

Mhmm.

Situation where there are trained coaches

who go through this night after night To lead people along this spiritual path. And it's a very formulaic thing, and they can reproduce it every night as they need to. If this is a

An evangelical group. And they well and if you're saying it's a grift, well, is there a money aspect that you're associating with the grift, Or is it just a fakery because church has some more plates. So Well, here's here's They can. They can. Yes. Here's my big story. Alan now. And you're too excited.

So,

Alan, you might I don't know if this leads into what you were thinking

about it because you and I have clearly been in those rooms with Sure. With people

speaking in tongues. Mhmm. There is a thing called and this goes back to our conversation about egregores.

Yes. About believing

in something that becomes real for this person.

There's a thing called I mean, it's A shared psychosis

that can be can be, you know, bred into somebody. You've you've been programmed your whole life into this because you're born into this fold. Yep. You know, every single every single

Sunday, you are exposed to this this thing, so it becomes a norm For these people,

and they believe it's real. So to them, they they become it.

Right. Almost sub subconsciously,

they they

It's they they agree

to the contractor.

Program, there there has to be a submission

to Yes. The spirit. They're part of this is submission to the spirit.

Yes. And they they talk about that a lot. There's a there's a few levels to this. And if you aren't familiar with glossolalia speaking in tongues and you see Jesus camp documentary, and you're like, well, these children are being led along this curated spiritual experiments

with this sort of buildup and a plateau,

And the end goal being everyone is on their knees, feeling the power of the holy spirit in them, and they're just completely shaken and they're filled with energy and they're speaking like a baby language And they're encouraged to speak like a baby language. So it's like to get your mouth moving, your tongue moving, and then to sort of say, well, what what are you thinking here? And getting it out And then getting over that embarrassment level of, well, people are gonna be it it's an empowerment thing for these children. So these children who are shy and they don't speak,

They wanna be filled with the power of the Holy Spirit. They want to be empowered to not be shy, to be,

active in their faith and going around and having that power.

So for that aspect, when all these children are filled with that, it's very empowering for these children who are otherwise disempowered or told to shut up and not to Say anything or do anything. So for the children,

they see this as a weapon that they can wield. That's sort of like if a bully

It's being picked on all the time. They're like, well, go and learn karate. Go and learn kung fu and and defend yourself.

For the people

In this in this situation, they sell to children this idea of a spiritual empowerment. So this is how you arm yourself in a in a in a defensive sort of way. So

When you're a child and you're given this tool as a weapon, it can be very,

very interesting and very empowering.

Now if we're talking about adults, it's it's similar in that same way.

Now whether or not money is passed around and people are paying for these services.

Yeah. There's all sorts of books and training seminars all related to this topic. That's an aspect of it. Now if if you're getting to the the real Fact, is it a real phenomenon?

Well, there's videos all over, and you can go to these churches publicly, and they'll advertise, hey. We're having a

A, old,

what do they call it?

A tent revival meeting. And people go to these revival meetings

expecting

To be filled with the holy spirit, to learn glossolalia,

and to then have that holy spirit

dwelling within you. So when people go with the expectation to say, I want to participate in this, I wanna be filled with it. That's a very real thing, and they expect it. So they receive it, And they want it. If you go into it with a spec a skeptical

perspective to say, well, this is all a grift. This is all a circus. This is a sideshow.

You're gonna have that experience.

When you have the body of believers and they're all at the altar and they're all having this Kumbaya meeting, it's it's

It's a very intimate experience. You're having people

touch you and they're whispering or in your ear and you're getting a lot of Touch and feeling and affection that you don't get anywhere else. That's very, very much part of it where you're so deep.

There's a whole deep psychological aspect to what is going on. And then the question might be speaking

in tongues. Is that what that means? The glossary or whatever?

Yes. Being filled with the holy spirit

with the initial physical

evidence

of speaking in tongues.

So it's it's a vocal exercise.

Gordie will know this. When you're when you're learning to sing, well, how do you sing? By opening your mouth, by pushing air through the vocal cords, by moving your tongue, by forming words and phrases. So they'll teach you to do that. It's like Teaching someone how to ride a bike. Once they get the momentum,

now they're starting to do tricks. They're starting to take their hands off the wheels. They're they're standing on the seat. They're doing all sorts of tricks. Beautiful. To get somebody to feel comfortable

on the bicycle to then remove the training wheels to send we're training you with the spiritual

Weapon is,

equipping you with this power,

this this exercise.

Well, you do the exercises,

And you become better and better at it. You become confident

in your ability to speak out loud. And then the you'll see the children as they're, like, they're kinda whispering it, But then they're encouraged to speak louder and louder, so they're raising their voice, which is very empowering because everyone's telling children, shh, quiet,

Be quiet, but then you get an adult figure

in a very intimate setting. The lights are low.

Everyone's at the altar.

And now they're being told to scream at the top very longs, this, this biblical

Heavenly angelic language that is a gift to them, and they're ready to receive it. And you have to you have to say, I want to receive it. You have to ask it.

Yeah. So then you have this peer pressure

where you hear people on your left side and your right side

Beginning to start speaking,

kinda getting their wheels turn and kinda getting it going. It's flowing up the tongue and they're getting more confident.

And then the person next to you is starting to do it, and you're like, peer pressure. So I'm gonna start to do it. It does and they'll whisper, and you're just you just have to start with any words. And then

Then the stream will come through, and then you'll be filled with Holy Spirit. But you have to start saying the goo goo goo goo baby language first just to get your mouth moving, And then the words, the phrases will come into your mind, and then you'll say them, and then you'll feel more confident. And then the person next to you will feel more confident. Everybody in turn will feel more because everyone's doing it. And they'll say, well, we intend for the spirit to come here and you invite the spirit in and now everyone's filled with the spirit.

Fascinating.

Beautiful. Really. So Magical.

It is. It's a very empowering thing.

Well well, the problem

is is it's it's it's badly empowering,

and and that's where the real problem comes in is now that it's just Still nonsense. There's no actual

objective power to it. So I I like that you brought it to martial arts.

So martial arts is the other place where you see the very most of this nonsense.

And you can go through and literally find a 1,000

videos.

Some jackass who's teaching an entire group of students,

And it's like, he's doing just stuff like wiping his hand across their back, and the guy's like,

and he's just throwing them around. And look at how I've empowered you. And now those kids are martial artists. Look at the Tae Kwon Do kids we all grew up with. They felt empowered because now they're martial artists, and they can break

boards.

And they go in cocky and get the brakes beat off them. Yeah. You know, every one of those kids was a fucking boxing clown when it came to actually in a fight. You know? But they sure felt empowered.

Like so it's a very false empowerment that they're receiving.

And and that

as he was describing that,

You understood that it's

through the unity of a group

that they felt power. And anytime you're with a group, you're the Cool kids. You're the awesome one. You're the awesome gang.

Yeah. You know, you don't hang out with a group of people and think we're the fucking losers. We're, like, all the really kinda isolated

and by ourselves, but by virtue of that, we were so damn lonely. And by ourselves, we all kind of hang out together In a loose association of of of complete losers,

nobody thinks that. You're in the awesome cool kid gang, and and when you have, like, your 6 Friends around you. Yeah. No. And you're walking through a crowd. You guys are the awesome ones and making jokes and having a good time.

It's that empowerment of having a group

doing a like thing.

And so now what we got it then study is Where's the actual objective truth of this?

Is there actually ever being,

empowered

Word of God where one of these people goo goo guying

actually

makes something biblical happen, makes a miracle happen.

Performs a prophecy

that everybody else in the church who wasn't doing the babble, as Gordy said,

Understood

the babble.

Like, they're like, oh my god. He just gave us the secret to life. And it's it's not always a bunch of babble. It's It's not always leading to a prophetic word or predicting the future or a psychic connection to

something else. A lot of times, it'll come through as a word of encouragement,

And that's what a lot of these people are lacking. Feeling good.

And that can be that can make necessarily make it that doesn't necessarily make it false, though. Right. And that doesn't reduce it. That doesn't reduce it to nothing. Right. You know, you can't say it's a I didn't say it reduces it to nothing. Objectively,

though, it Does. So so subject is how you feel about something is how you feel about something. Right. That doesn't change Or belief. Objective truth. And we're in this We're in this we're yeah. But belief, again,

can be subjective, but it it unless it actually changes something objectively,

Then all that changes

is how you felt about it. And there's there's that's only a truth for you.

That's not a truth. The world. When you're in it, but and a lot of these spiritual experiences are only for you. Yeah. I mean Mhmm. I've had

situations in nature that

that nature has Reflected exactly what I needed at that time as an encouragement

for nobody else

but me.

Yeah. And that was a truth I am. About me. And I'm sure you've had that happen.

100%.

So there's no 100%.

But What? So here's Here's the difference. So like I had an experience with Odin

that I talk about where he gave me the tree of life. That's a very

subjective

experience. Right. And we can believe it or not. You cannot everybody can think that motherfucker

was probably on some heavy drugs that day. Dipped a little too hard in the DMT,

you know, or something And and went out and and and freaking imagined the experience.

Go ahead. I don't care if you feel like that. It doesn't bother me. Yeah. Now,

here's where the difference is. I had to bring that to an objective

reality.

And that's what I've spent the last 5 years is turning that tree, that gift from Odin in my subjective

into something true

In real and objective. Because

you can feel like I know a guy who thinks that he was literally abused by his parents and had a horrible life. And if you ask him why,

he will tell you when he was 15,

his dad came home after a day it had snowed, and he shoveled the driveway

Without being asked and when his dad came home, he just looked and said, good job,

and didn't pay him or nothing. So he's ever felt the inspiration to get a job or do anything productive since then. No. Like, and that's a new.

Dude, so you can't argue that it is because that's his subjective

reality.

In his mind, he was a Right. And And that took away his will and drive to do anything ever again. Subjectively, anything could be true.

Objectively,

So these experiences that you have, this tree that Odin gave me, I've tied it to alchemy. I've tied it to the world. I've tied it to electricity.

I've made this objective

truth anybody can grasp that was gifted to me from Odin, and you can believe I pulled it out my ass. But I made it objective. And my problem with these gaga goo goo is where's the objective in it? Where is the acting Well, here's the thing. I was gonna say,

their their lives changed after that. I mean, a lot of these people were drug addicts or subject.

Or whatever. And they had that experience, and your whole life has changed.

That's that's

my question. From watching the episode of Ed, Ed, and Eddy.

Yeah.

Is that from going to a concert? That make it religious or godly.

Yeah. I've definitely had that religious experience at concerts

for sure. I think energy of a group of people in a room

is real

of all the people doing something.

I think a lot of the stuff of those kind of churches, they're already working on, like,

stuff. So it's, like, levels of hypnotism that we're all a huge criticism if the music is a repetitive drumbeat. It feels

Like, this is what you're telling us to avoid. You're saying avoid the mysticism, avoid the witchcraft, avoid all this stuff, but yet you're using this repetitive drumbeat

And then leading us to the altar and then using neurolinguistic programming as a pastor on a stage to get people to come to the altar.

Yeah. We understand that's The grift, and that's your ministry, and that's what you're doing, and you're very effective at it. And if you're a numbers based guy and you're reporting to your newsletter list, you know, we saved So many people, we got all these souls, who signed a commitment card to Jesus Christ, and then they joined our newsletter. And then we report these numbers and we're growing. Well, that's, That's an objective that they have to read it reach a target goal. On the individual level, well, how does it benefit the individual?

Well, a lot of times those individuals

are then brought into the ministry or they're trying to cherry pick the people to say, hey, you're

You got the look of leadership in you. You've got the prophetic word in you. We wanna bring you into our inner circle. We're We're gonna expand our team. It's a volunteer position perhaps, but then they they never had anyone say that to them. But you're special now. Right now, we brought you in. But also a dangerous thing

Mhmm.

Perceived.

Just In general, in my

my intuition,

if you sit blanketly, like, I don't believe you should Transcendental meditate. I think that's a bad idea of meditation.

I think doing things without intention is a really dangerous thing because something else will drive you. So, like, for me to just sit and, like, let a spirit take over my hand. Oh, I'm so strong. And So like draw for me like, oh, I'll let a ghost just right. I'll just keep scribble scrabbling until a ghost takes over me or I I'm inviting an energy in. So to let an energy take over my tongue and speak, even though No one in the room might understand it. It doesn't change the fact that I might be doing a spell to everyone in the room. So, yeah, it could be beneficial,

but it Could also be very, very dangerous to me as far as energy is concerned to just have a group of children let their tongue Be blanketly taken over by some energy. They don't know to gibley glibly glue. Like, you have no idea what you're saying. So I feel like intention is everything. So you shouldn't let anything drive you

without the intention of knowing what it is. And so there is a part where I understand, like, my other side of My other side of my brain says, like, I can understand the Kundalini serpent opening up and then you getting a snake tongue. You getting that kind of energy the same way, like, You'd have an orgasm in your root chakra. Maybe all this energy explodes out of your mouth. Like, I can see both sides of These things. But I think there has to be your interest There are so many arguments

within the Protestant church

and within all these fractured church groups

Over the specific issue, over the interpretation of the scripture,

over

arguments about whether we should allow children to do this, all these All these things that were snakes involved in this a lot of the times, isn't there? There are some groups that do snake handling. There are groups that believe they can drink poison, but they won't be harmed. Bit By the mistake, it's because you are holy.

It's awesome.

That's my favorite of the Christian groups.

Yeah. Lay it on you. It can get it can get to that level where even amongst church groups, they'll look at other church groups and say, well, we're not like them. They're absolutely

Crazy. But we have our own level of crazy that we're accepting of. But then other people point that out and say, well, they're crazy because they drink the poison, and they're crazy because they Handle the snakes, and they're crazy because they do the fasting. So it's there's this disagreement with in each believer, and that's probably where we're getting to with the The idea that it needs to be on an individual

basis. You need to have your own spiritual cancer.

Right. And when you're joining a group collective of of a denomination of a specific church in a specific building and a specific altar repeatedly over time, and you become a member of that church. And it does build the does build the power of it, and it is empowering. And there are benefits to that for the people that remain there. Of course, now there's always gonna be those Other people I don't fit in and they're pushed out and they go from church to church to church.

Do you know you make up a really good and you bring up a really good

Topic here. I saw this, witch, a Russian witch. She was talking about egregores and,

certain particular group is harder for her to penetrate

Because of,

I guess the Muslim group because of their prayer and their and their belief

and their 5 times a day of praying and their constant relationship

and talking to God, it's harder for them to penetrate

their magic. Like, they could literally have an image of somebody

And, like, have it in front of their face. And when they try and build it in their mind, it, like, disappears. Like, it can't penetrate. And I always found that fascinating, the whole Aggregor and the belief and constantly

thinking about it or, you know, thinking godly, godly, godly, godly, you build this protection.

It's been fascinating, the whole belief system and the group system, and the more you do it and the more you believe in it, it's powerful.

The path

of the individual is is going to be the most important thing, and it's gonna be there'll be certain

Percentage of a church population who will have

these gifts. They'll have these inherent understandings and the genetics and all these things that work. And then they'll be able to take that empowering and say, well, I had that experience. I'm gonna

continue

working on it, And then it will open up the world of synchronicity. It will have that sort of magical realism where you start to see everything connecting, and then All of the ways are open for you, and the paths are made for you when you're walking with the Lord,

and you're having this spiritual experience. That's what so many people

lust after, and they lust after that result. But then they also have that side of skepticism, So they don't get it, and they're jealous of the people that do get it. And they're the people that are living that way are usually the most humble, and they're quiet, and they're not the ones writing the books and selling the tapes and telling you how to do it because they don't know how to do it

because it's their own system that they found it works for them. It's that constant prayer and Bible study and and commitment to that way of life.

When you get into a group setting, now you have to have a group

Agreement on these things, and that's where people fall through the cracks. Not everyone's going to be in agreement

in the group, and then you have splinter groups. We were talking earlier about A certain podcast host and a certain leader of that group, and then people try to have their own breakaway

conversations, and people weren't having that. And they're It keeps splintering, splintering, splintering. I think the goal

of this group is to be the opposite of that, to

Continue to forge

friendships, relationships, ask better questions, and invite everyone in and allow everybody to have the The opportunity

to grow together and to recognize their strengths

and their weaknesses, and then have the conversations.

What are you laughing about?

I'm not calling anyone out.

Oh, my friend said I had funny text. Oh my god.

Sorry. I'm tripping on shroom, guys. Don't don't hear much.

You're hap you're having a spiritual experience with spiders.

For

me, most of this, The the spiritual experience has just become a good time. And whatever makes a Mhmm. Person feel good or comfortable,

everybody's immediate responses.

Oh, well, that's good. As long as it makes them happy. Mhmm. And that is absolutely,

antithetical

to growth.

That that's never been the spiritual

experience. I'm sorry to break people. The spiritual experience has never been a joyful great ride.

Like, that is not it's not whatever makes you comfortable and happy and feeling. Right. Or dependent

on a church group or a fellowship group or a men's Bible study or a promise keeper situation.

If the end goal that you can foresee

of the group of the thing is to make you more dependent

On them

and not a stronger individual,

well, then that's gonna be a huge concern, a huge

red flag that's gonna throw up, and you're gonna have to Live with that cognitive

dissonance

or splinter from the group to say I'm going away for a while.

And then if that group welcomes you back with open arms

And not suspicious or backstabbing

or telling you you're a heretic or heathen or living in sin because you left the group for a while.

It's maybe a sign of a healthy grouper and unhealthy group.

Solitude

just Disappearing for a while. Yes. Didn't Jesus do that in Buddha?

Yeah. And that is not a comfortable experience. Oh, I love it. Mhmm. I love it too. It's

it's

you need to hit the rock bottom sometimes and just, like,

Feel everything hard

and just let it fucking out.

And you're not really at the rock bottom until you're

laying on the floor, fetal position and tears. And then you're like, oh my god.

And I'm in the middle of my shadow work.

And then, Like, the day before or 2 days before, you're like,

life is so good. I don't even know what bad feelings feel like. Like, usually, like, somewhere in the week before, you're just in a bliss of, like, I have it all together.

Like, I think I have everything figured out. My relationships are smooth. My communication

You know, the Swing to the left has to equal the swing to the right. So so in order for you to fully feel that complete down, you've gotta feel that complete dumb bliss.

And really at the end of it, we all wanna try and stay in the middle. You don't really wanna feel either way. They're both fairly dangerous. But yeah. Which is part of why, like, I told Karen and Karen's like, you know, because I'm still optimistic about the whole flattoberfest saying it's like, well, I already knew I was gonna have Take some licks if this was gonna be big. Yeah. It's just the way life goes.

There's a reason why no man There's

no what is it? There's no atheist in a foxhole?

Yeah. Every man finds his god Yeah. In a foxhole.

Yeah. So understand

how people don't even think that there's a creator to this.

I cannot fathom that.

There has to be a designer to this, whatever it may be, whatever you guys want anyone wants to think it is.

There has to be a designer to all of this, to this,

like this alone.

It's a mid brow thing.

It's a mid brow. Intelligence it's a mid brow thing.

Like, your lower intelligence

people are all very religious.

Your high your very, very high intelligence

people are all very Spiritual.

Your mid brow people are atheists.

They think they're smart, and because they think that they're smart, they

Think that they have the universe figured out and,

they aren't really smart enough to know what they don't know. And so

It's the confidence

that goes into that

thinking that they know enough. So then they have more answers than somebody else. It's that confidence

That is really annoying to a lot of us. It's like you're so confident

and cocky about what you

believe,

and yet

Maybe you don't know enough to know that you don't know so much more than you think you have answers to. I just say to them, it's like, explain yourself

then. It's like there's no

creator or designer, so explain yourself.

It's a bio it's a

biochemical process. And and without that higher understanding,

all is it was was a biochemical

process, and you can isolate it down to that and compartmentalize

it to that.

And there's a sequence of events So that just led to you. It doesn't really answer consciousness. That's the one thing it really doesn't answer. Mhmm. But

Your your evolution through,

as a human, that's pretty easy to explain. And, no, I'm not talking about Darwin's evolution.

That's pretty easy to explain.

Yeah. They have an explanation for it, and they feel like they're talking. Like this big

For each

statement.

Mhmm.

Yeah. The big bang led into led into

Planets and bulks and gases and blah blah blah forming, which eventually led into life forming, which eventually led into humans.

Mm-mm. And and now you're here. No god created. It was a big bang. It was a big gash. Let's start there.

Uh-huh. Yeah. Because

whatever

Like, it's so funny to me just how the creation,

like, creation tale in general is all the r g.

From the rapture real life is a rapture.

Is as above so below.

Why aren't creation tales more involving women? Because

We are the world. Teeny.

Because it can.

So so when you look at the way actual creation goes,

We don't understand the feminine. So heathen is my favorite to obviously fall back on, obviously.

So when you look at it, the all was everything. It was everything. The masculine, the feminine, the whole 9 yards. But the all didn't understand anything, but I am. Because there was nothing to offset itself against to make a comparison.

It doesn't know if it's light, Dark, small, big, none of those terms even exist.

The only thing that exists is I am.

The awareness of self that there is an existence.

So in order to understand start understanding the I am split,

And when it split, the first split was the first masculine which is the all father,

and the material.

The all mother is the immaterial.

Well, there's still not life because these two things are just offsetting each other. There's still not much

Well, at this point, the all father

splits because we can't live in the immaterial.

We're not immaterial

beings. There's one in material. That's the all mother. She is all of it.

And so the all father splits Like the all did before him,

now the all father splits into the land of ice and fire, or dark water and light water. All the mythologies are the same.

Now at this point, there's still not life because we have a world of ice in a world of fire.

Now here, the all mother

pulls the two sides of the all father together.

So she is the creator

and the destroyer.

The destruction of the pieces of these two worlds

is what created the life,

The mix of these two worlds, and that's where the life of us happens. So she is everything that gives life and everything that Joyce, why she has two names

where the masculine sides each only have one name because they only do one job.

But we can't truly understand the all mother.

We can only understand the all father, because that's the experience that we are having. The all mother is the secret unknown that drives everything.

She's the ether that we can't weigh, measure,

touch, but she makes all of it happen.

So our experience is from the masculine side, and that's why religions are typically masculine.

But the feminine is what drives and then and gives the life to that whole thing.

Wow. Like Mary. Awesome. Are you talking about That blew me away.

The mother and the father?

Like,

in the movie Dirty Dancing?

Yes.

You can't put baby in a corner.

Don't do it.

I agree. Well done.

Wow. I can't wait till the lift happens.

My favorite part.

Awesome.

I always just think it's funny that everyone always says what comes first, the chicken or the egg, but the answer is never the

cock.

Oh, that's right, actually.

Yeah.

That's

really good.

What cock's a chicken?

The only chicken that the only cock that laid an egg.

You know, the last time of cock a doodle doing Fox don't have cock. Right?

Yeah. Yeah. What is it? Coquitules? Crow.

Yeah. Chickens will cock at the top. They're like lesbians. They scissor. They just bump they just bump holes against each other. That's a myth. That's just a myth from porn. Lesbians don't concern. I believe that. I a 100% believe that.

That totally seems like something tight that 2 high school dudes made up. Yep. Straight up. It's such a way that guys would be, like, this is how ladies must have sex because this is how we'd have sex.

Yeah. Totally know that.

Holy shit. Rock, paper, and scissoring.

Yeah.

Like, you know, when we were kids with Barbies and you yeah. That's how they do it, man.

Is that how boy scouts start fires with sticks?

Rub them fast together. Scissor?

If ladies were really scissoring, we would have been called fags.

But, yeah, I take

waterfowl

waterfowl have penises,

landfowl do not.

Yeah. So ducks and stuff, they have they have dicks.

Turkeys

Now that's for corkscrewdicks.

That's really weird.

Why why is it what is the purpose of that?

What? The corkscrew then? Corkscrew? No. The

Waterfowl have penises, but landfowl

don't have penises? What's

what is the Right. The purpose of that like, it seems like there's a good reason for, like, most things.

You know, like, pretty much everything.

But That doesn't make any sense to me. Is it like

Speaking of penis Thinking about that. And

why was the real reason for them to Star

circumcision.

Like That's a Jewish that's a Jewish religious

mosque. Is it? It started with them?

Yeah. It's our Jewish religious

right, and I believe,

because what what what was it? Abraham Briss. That had the circumcise

What's that?

A brisk.

It's because it goes with with wine, and they ran out of crackers.

Yeah.

It's like Yeah. Because he, like, also the huge

the huge the the Moisha

actually Takes and bites the foreskin off with his teeth in his mouth and then sucks the blood like a fucking vampire.

It's called just the tip. Bastards.

Talk some Yeah. Just the tip. Yeah.

And,

my friend Owen Benjamin has a hilarious thing where he calls A moyle. King David.

Samoil. Samoil. Yeah. Samoil. Yeah. I knew I'd think of the name. I'm like, I said mosque then brisk. It's a brisk. Yeah. Oh, come on.

Yeah. For what reason?

The stump, the sexual urge of men. What what

Yeah. It's the it's disconnecting

from your root. So if you look even at the Kabbalistic tree and you compare it to my tree of life, you see that the roots been cut.

And then when you look at the entire Abrahamic

cosmology.

Okay. When you look at the way I talk about the way the world works, You have a sulfur side and a salt side. And when I say that the two sides are oppositional, and I talk about that all the time. And that the carbon ego is here to lock them together

so we can learn to put them together in a perfect union.

Now if you change that to Christian or Abrahamic words, we have angels for sulfur

and demons for salt.

And everything they talk about is how this side, the material side is bad, and this is also the whole way the whole new age movement Works. Oh, we need to ascend.

We need to go to the light.

We needed to go to the light side.

And and that is not how it works. When you're an alchemist, you don't just you don't just isolate out the sulfur

and say, well, now I got the good part of the plant. I got the sulfur that the

most high vibrational

piece of this plant. I now have it.

And so the rest of the plant's garbage. That is not how it works. I'm supposed to marry that highest piece with the very lowest densest salt

And and view it into the salt. So this blue area would be your high mind, your angel side, your, And then the red side, the demon devil.

And the 2 are oppositional to each other, and the heart center is what's tying them together

And causing them to be one thing. Well, the Abrahamic Pantheon because they're a because they're a solar cult,

Thinks that this salt side, your material side is evil,

and it's absolutely not. That's where your structure comes from.

And and without the structure,

nothing happens.

It's idiocy at its finest, but they are a very one-sided solar cult. And so they demonize everything about your root, and the very first thing they want done to you when you're born is them to take

The most sensitive portion of your root on your masculine can destroy it. Fuck. And they go ahead and cut it off. And your parents are fucking standing there, the people that fucking love you And celebrating. You,

the religious leaders down there sucking your blood and biting the tip of Your root off.

And if if this was done to girls true.

If if if some fucking little chewy, You know, nasty little son of a bitch was allowed to come in and put his mouth on some girl's clitoris and just bite the hood right off. You know? Like, woah. We'd be up in arms. You freaking female genital mutilating

sick son of a

But 99%

of men in America, that's perfectly okay for genital mutilation to happen. And Of babies. And so that and and then on top of that,

If you spent your whole life

with a a a flap of skin

over top of the head of your penis,

Your penis would, a, have a moisture it would always have a moistness to it because now just like all other enclosed places,

There's a moistness

and it's not consistently

exposed and dry and chapped. So it's gonna have a sensitivity to it

That you can't possibly imagine to expose piece of skin. We we all understand that the pieces of us that are unexposed,

like the bot this Arch of your foot where nothing touches,

that's super sensitive.

So instead, we've now desensitized

it, Harmed it and set up a traumatic situation

that from birth

disempowers you and cuts you from your roof. That's And and fucked up.

A 100%.

I I have very little use for the Abrahamic,

Pantheon

Hey, god. Molly, Jamie. You see. He's spoken about more.

So I'm so glad you went back to this,

Ben, because this is about

authenticity.

What we're talking about is a spiritual authenticity.

Like, what

you're talking about, like, you found with Odin out in nature

is,

an authentic

spiritual experience. Right? And now you've been spending these last 5 years of trying to objectively

interpret

that experience,

And you've come up with this whole cosmology, whatever your cosmology is,

and you found

Whatever that path is, it's only your path. You're you're sharing it with people,

but it's your

Spirituality,

your understanding.

And I think it's every single one of our soul's path

To find

that

whatever your spiritual experience is

and go back,

Interpret it. Go through all of your childhood trauma. Go through all of your your shadow work. Go through your god in a foxhole because you think you're gonna die.

And because you are gonna die, go through that death.

Reinterpret that death,

And that's where your spiritual authenticity

happens because you are finally authentic with yourself about it.

Because you weren't leaning on somebody else's understanding.

You weren't taught from childhood in this in the church that

That brought you up. You had a real fucking experience, man.

And you were out there, and

And we've we spend the rest of our lives

trying to find that

that core of that

That intangible that

of what gives us the consciousness. It's not it's not the material. It it's clearly not the brain.

The we've already proven that the brain,

what's in here is not consciousness. It's Out here, it's it lives in this in our energy field.

We are not just this. We are this.

We are having this experience right now, but this is not us. This is not what defines us.

And once

you once you figure that shit out,

It opens up another

another hole, but those are those are infinite holes. Those are this is where we find that this is The universe is a fractal linear equation

that we're here to figure this shit out.

Not for you. Not for Ben. Not for Cheney. Not for Leila. Not for Alan. Not for Jim.

For me.

100%.

Yeah. But but

aren't we like a whole consciousness,

like a one consciousness?

Yes. We are both. We are individuals and a collective.

So we're the all

We come from one source. Shouldn't we have, like, one,

like, easy

instantaneous

way to just, like,

No. There shouldn't be point to existence? We're missing the piece of the puzzle.

It's the what's the point then, though?

You're right. What's the point? You're right. It's if your experience is like any other experience, why would God create you twice?

Like, your experience is supposed to be specific. So this way God can experience something different than God's experienced ever in the flesh of anything else.

Yes. 100%

what Cheney just said. And furthermore,

there's not even a good and evil until that experience happens.

Like I said, when God started the there's a difference between the first I am

and the last I am. When it first says I am, God hasn't had no understanding of anything of itself. It just understood its existence.

After

The entirety of its existence and it came back together.

I am still is the whole of everything,

But that everything is an entirely different everything.

Understand I am in the beginning was everything. I end it. The end is everything.

But one, everything is much richer and vaster and fuller. And how do you know that murder is a bad thing and tells you experience murder?

Even as a society and tell people went around and said, you know, I don't like it when you fucking kill the other people that I'm hanging out with, dude. That that's not cool.

Nobody likes it. All of a sudden, murder's a bad thing. Like, it it it if we had all said, you know, that's kinda cool. There's more to eat. I didn't get murdered. Then murder wouldn't be considered a bad thing.

Like like, that's entirely on the experience. People don't even wanna realize how much our morals are entirely built on our

group subjective experience

Where we each are like, yeah. Yeah. We like that or we don't. And we make that into a moral thing. But the morals of 200 years ago are entirely different from the morals of today. Alright. So we can pretend like morals are set in stone, but 200 years ago, I could've went out and married a 14 year old, And that would have been perfectly acceptable. He owns his own farm. He's a stable man. He treats other people good. Look how well he takes care of his animals. He's gonna take care of her real good. You know? And now I'd be like, Jesus, look at that pedophile, which I should be. I'm I'm more on the today's morals, but I grew up in today. Maybe 200 years ago, I wouldn't have felt like that if I would have grown up then. Very true. Because again,

Morals of society are subjective based on the experience that that society has recently had.

All a program, basically. Well, there are societies within the society. So you have America. Well, what is America?

And the experience of an average American

could be so

diametrically opposed from person to person on the street asking, well, what do you think This means and they'll all give you a different opinion of what they think it means to them, and they'll define a word completely different from the next person. And there isn't that sort of

Unity

of, like, a even a dictionary

when people are struggling to define

basic words since part of the splintering

of the language of not being able to communicate

because of the triggering when they hear certain words. They have an affinity towards certain words that they love. Those are the dog whistles. Those are the virtuous signal words. Those are the words that I can say, and I know who my tribe is because I say these words, and it's a magnet. It attracts them. And there's the opposite words where it repels people because I'm using these words and I'm empowered to say these words.

So even with an American culture, we have cultures within cultures within cultures.

If you have

A family dynamic, and they're talking about the nuclear family. So we're talking about man and woman

having a child, having a nuclear family.

That's a completely different dynamic. And then you have your church family.

So your parents trust that you have a Church family. They bring you to Sunday school, and I think, well, everyone within the church here is going to be trustworthy. They're gonna be on the up and up. They're gonna have integrity.

Gonna be able to trust our children within the church family,

and then they go to the school, public or private school, and they have all these Levels of trust and intimacy.

And it takes a village to raise a child, isn't it? Now the Child is raised by the village idiots in a public school system,

and then they come home

And they tell their parents what they've learned, and the parents are like, well,

actually, I have a different opinion about that, But you need

to agree with what your teachers say because they're testing you on it. So then you have to have this cognitive dissonance and the child

is having to struggle to realize, well, I go to school. My teacher is expecting me to answer questions a certain way, but then I go home, And my dad has a certain answer to that question. My mom has a different answer to that question.

No one seems to be in agreement

about the basic concepts. So now the child, as the individual,

has to test

these

limits to see, well, what is

True.

What can I get away with? What will I be punished with? What will I be rewarded with? So going back to the conversation of the church family

And what they value

above all, it depends. Is it a Lutheran church? Are they gonna have a potluck dinner afterwards? Is it a casual social gathering for people,

or is it the most

cult like

group think, agregoric behavior

And the child

raised in that situation

is now empowered to

belong to that group and then hold their ideals above Everyone else's ideals. And if they go into school and they believe they're a soldier

of Christ and that they have a special truth and they're empowered with Glossolalia

and gifts of the spirit and all these things, and they go to school, well, that empowers them because this the public school is a battlefield,

And the child can see that. The child agrees with that. They go along with it. Now they're trusting their adults in their church, their youth pastor, all these things. This is before they're 18. This is before they've gone off on into the world on their own to try to test things because there's that

Safety net. Right? The parents will give the child a safety net. The pastor will give the child a safety net. But when they go out on their own, then they have to decide

For themselves, what is true? In an Amish tradition, they have that.

So the the Amish have these beautiful values eating

From the earth, working with your hands, creating beautiful furniture, and all these things, and yet

they let their child go out and experience

the world, and it might be the worst of it. It might be, you know, a hangover movie in Vegas to see Sin City and see the worst quality,

Which will then cause them to return to their home family and say, those people are crazy out there, and I I can't make a life out there. So I'm gonna return my Home family. But if you if you show them maybe a Protestant family,

it might not be such a yo yo effect where they bounce back to their,

nest. Right? So if the goal of the parents are to raise a child as an individual to be self sufficient to then start another family,

Well, of course, we're failing on that. And you're talking about the story about the kid who's out there shoveling the snow,

doing the work that needs to be done, And then gets no recognition for that and then loses all work ethic,

loses all direction and positive feedback, And this and this is an adult man who's still acting like a child living in adolescent life,

but appearing to be an adult, But hasn't matured, hasn't been empowered to

make his own decisions

and not out of

A fear of not landing somewhere or of hitting the concrete, being homeless or whatever. This person is just empowered with sugar And video games and free porn and all these things that a child is like, I can't handle all this stuff because I don't know when to say no. Because it's just Constantly being given to me. I'm receiving, receiving, receiving it. So it's the adult mind that has to learn well. There are limits to growth. There are limits To addiction. There are limit I can only eat so much food before I'm gonna throw it all up.

So that's where we're testing the limits.

In a spiritual world, you also have to test the limits. There are some people who will go into a spiritual realm and then push the limits to see, well, is this real? How far can it go? How far can I fake my ability to speak in tongues and impress everybody with my skat man do,

singing songs and getting on stage and touching people And just becoming a better pastor than the pastor himself?

And it's like, what would Jesus do? And if that's the model is we'll be more like more Christlike, but what does that even mean

Versus

what the popular culture will show you in a comic book. So if your hero is a superhero, if it's Spider Man, are you gonna act like Spider Man and Take on the miles Morales

morality

of fighting crime and seeing good and evil. This is still a child

mind

determining

What to do,

and yet

is the adult mind ever going to be allowed to be an individual?

Within adult organizations,

the individual

itself is

pushed out at every opportunity.

We see this in 2020

when people are asked,

are you an essential worker?

Do you need to have a job? Do you need to have an income? And by the way,

if you are an essential worker and you want to continue receiving an income and you continue Do you wanna pay your mortgage and your bills and pay off that car and own that home and own that property? Well, are you going to jump through these additional hoops

Because now it's vice grip tightening

and tightening

to fit into the system. Who's going to follow

The orders, the best

to become

a cog in that machine.

Starts with school.

It's all in it's all indoctrination.

And as adults parents and

We're finding this out as adults,

Even going back and reading simple children's stories as adults and thinking, well, that was kind of an ambiguous

story with an abrupt ending that Makes sharing seem like a good thing. But if it's the story of the rainbow fish, and the rainbow fish is this beautiful,

Bright,

young, virile fish swimming through the sea with these shiny scales. This is someone who's letting the light shine and reflect, and it's Vibrant is glowing. And then someone else, like in a Harrison Bergeron sort of way to sort of even everyone out. It's an equal opportunity for everyone to be

At an equal level

with no one overachieving, no one underachieving,

everyone has to

be handicapped to the same

Allowance of

showing their abilities.

It's like a world of agreements and disagreements.

It's like you come into the negotiating

constantly

the agreements with your parents, with your teachers. Consciously,

consciously,

You don't choose your name when you come here. You don't choose your religion. You don't choose the way you're born. You don't choose any of it. You come here. They give you a name. They give you a religion.

Condition condition. It's condition. Accept accept accept. You are not realizing you're accepting.

And, like, how do you

stop that cycle, though?

A child comes into this earth. Right. Do you not give it a name?

Do you leave it in the house?

Do you

Teach it, but you're still you're still conditioning it, or do you let it out in the wild

and let it take its own path, but that's being a careless child a parent? Oh, let's go back to the dick metaphor. Are you

firm at all times? Are you flexible?

Are you moist? Are you dry? I mean, what are the conditions

in navigating this world. And if you're conditioned

to be

a certain way

at all times,

how do you decondition that?

Do you even want to? Are there benefits?

And as we move along this timeline, the benefits of being an individual

are reduced less and less and less.

The fear of the social credit score

in China saying,

When you do these things, you vote, you recycle,

you turn your lights out at a certain time.

That's the

The reward system for children who are appearing as adults to follow in lockstep with the system,

Those things are going to be rewarded. It's gonna get more and more difficult to be an individual if you continue to play by the rules, if you continue to Rely on what they call the beast system. All the systems are the beast, and they bite the hand that feeds. They don't care

who you are as an individual. They don't care about your unique

Shining

artistic ability, your thoughts, your opinions, they don't care about that. There's a script. There's a rush

be follow it. They can plug you in. They can pull you out, put somebody else in your position, and they won't even care

if you're there or not.

You're replaceable

if

you remain in that system.

But to become irreplaceable

In a community, a small community,

maybe that's what you'd want to do

to improve your skill, to find your gift, And stick with it. Don't give up on it. Now we talked about the martial arts metaphor.

Again, there's a lot of dopey people who go into martial arts for all the wrong reasons. But there are some people, maybe they're Chuck Norris, maybe they're Jackie Chan. They don't have to be in movies, but there's gonna be a small amount of people who are gonna be so talented in what they do Because they don't give up. It's the war of attrition. Everything seems to be a war of attrition where it wears you down

at every opportunity,

And the people that have the ability to not give up and to not lean on others for their

Affirmations

for their, hey, you did a great job.

Those are the people that are gonna be the strongest.

We live in a culture where

you go on TikTok and you wanna instantly get a million likes. You want that social media

Satisfaction of the thumbs up, of the comments, of the compliments.

Maybe that's a feminizing thing. I don't know If males care about that in the same way that females do, I don't even know if it's a gender issue,

but that's what you're trained to respond to. When you sign up on a social media platform

for the first time, even if it's like Tinder,

where they know that once you join, They give you everything

and over time they slowly take it away. So you get less and less of what you want from that platform,

But you're still chasing after the dopamine that they gave you the first time.

Yeah.

Those are all systems. Those are our our

All artificial systems

that we're playing with, and we know that that is always a losing game. I

think that a lot of

what a lot of us in

these communities have done

that the rest of the world is missing

is the making the conscious choice

To reevaluate everything, to assume

everything's

bullshit,

and then

Start from scratch. Like, everything you know is wrong. It was

that was the

the,

thing that The ancient one told doctor Strange and it

know that everything that that you've ever learned

is wrong, and you need to relearn everything

for yourself.

Yeah.

Gordy, what's on your shirt?

It's the heart of a spider. Well, it's a it's a web. Is a web

a very rigid thing? Does it dry and become

concrete,

Or does it remain flexible?

It's always always in flux. In fact,

those

Golden orb weaving spiders that I've been posting,

one of the beautiful things about them is they will build

One of those giant beautiful

webs

almost every night.

Sure.

Especially during monsoons, they'll they'll do it overnight,

and then the rains will wash it away again, and they'll do it it'll be back the next day in a different spot.

So what happens if you are a spider and you build a web and someone comes with a vacuum cleaner and sucks it up? Is that the end of your existence?

You do it again. Do you stop building webs because you're not gonna catch flies because you're just gonna starve to death? You do it again.

You start over and reevaluate your life,

reevaluate everything you know,

Choose those things that

are the gems in your life of experience

And lean on those things,

those authentic

experiences that you,

no matter what, no one else has ever told you, Anyone else has ever told you

that you know in your heart is your truth,

is your

experience,

As your reality.

Your world.

And you redefine that.

You can redefine that right now.

Sims. We are Sims characters.

And the other caveat

that I wanna make In this conversation is is that as you have that, you need to weigh it against the objective world.

Yeah. So you can have Very important.

Yeah. You can have your experience, but if your experience is completely out of line with the objective world,

Then it's just an experience that you're feeling. It's not real. Like,

it needs to line up. This is why it's,

Things like the hermetic principles are very important.

I I can feel like something works a certain way and if it and but there are There is objective truth to this world.

And and objectively,

if my subjective

experience fits into this objective thing,

then it's all good. If my subjective

experience is that humans fly

Because I'm out of my mind.

That person for them, that's still their reality. It just doesn't match objective reality in any way, shape, or form.

So there's a disconnect there, and then and you have to be aware of that. Well, that's that's the direction of culture. That's where they're pushing us

with the,

Facebook becoming the meta company be creating the metaverse, creating the virtual reality.

Now we've always had those warnings that,

you know, Johnny Mnemonic, the matrix, all these ideas to film, they're Giving us the imagination to imagine what it could be and what it's gonna shape up to. Now if you've watched dark journalists at all, he's talking about Rudolph Steiner and the 8th sphere, and it just whoosh over so many people's heads. Well, what is this idea

of virtualization?

So everything

that can be virtualized will be virtualized.

You have a virtual

assistant.

You have Siri on your smartphone.

You you used to hire a secretary.

You used to hire a person

with a specific skill set To do a job,

if that can be virtualized

with a virtual assistant, it has been done.

That's why we live in this post employment

economy where people are new now losing their purpose. The purpose used to be go to school,

get a job,

Keep the job.

Show up to the job every day.

That's all I gotta worry about. Now with the job insecurity that everyone

Has been forced into. Are you an essential worker

or not? Are you working for yourself?

Are you working for the man? If you're working for the man, are you getting the best possible benefits package? Are you maximizing your 401 k? All of these things,

you're participating in that system.

But then there are those of us who at every opportunity

have seen the decision, have made the choice to

Reduce their dependence

on the system,

the governments,

the Social Security,

The free money

deposited into your bank account. Wasn't that a weird thing? Right? You're not working. They have access to a bank account. They're putting money into your funds.

Wasn't there a point

in the timeline where people were so concerned about their privacy

that if money appeared in their account that they did not expect,

They would return to the bank because they didn't wanna be charged for theft. They didn't wanna say this is a bank error. And if they spent the money, That was a banker, and then they'd be a criminal, and they'd have to pay it back plus interest, plus jail time, and plus all these things. But then that sort of that agreement changed Where people were thankful that they're receiving money automatically deposited

into their accounts as if it was a bribe

and hush money to accept

and be complicit in the change of the structure. Now I mentioned

The 8th sphere, the virtualization,

which Steiner was talking about a 100 years ago saying, well, this is the direction

of the technology.

So you have AI art. Now everyone's talking about

using computer

machine learning to create art.

It's not really how it works. There's a huge bake out right now. There's a huge bluff that they're playing. They're saying that The computer that the virtual system and all these things are going to replace humans.

Are you accepting that bluff personally? I'm not accepting that bluff.

Well, I mean, let's be real. They couldn't do it with music and they've been trying for 30 years.

Right.

But what's that?

Electronic

music. Like, yeah, it's there,

but they've been trying to make that the music forever. Like, you don't have to play instruments anymore. You can just scratch records. Oh, boy. They've been trying to push this idea for decades decades decades decades. And, yeah, there's a section of people that are super into electronic, but I would say, you know, there's still all the other types of music.

That that group of people always is also heavily on party drugs.

Organic music. It's not on inorganic music.

Yeah. It's all it's all part of the culture. Too is I know, you know, there's reality and you can objectively say, like, You, you know, like, well, a human can't fly. That would be crazy, and it would be extra crazy a 1000 years ago until some if and I would be the one insane person that was like, I'm gonna put air in this balloon and I'm gonna tie a basket to it and I'm gonna fly

and or you're gonna put 2, But you know, wings on the side, on the side of a tube and you're going to fly. And if you would have told somebody that a 100 years before,

That's crazy. You're crazy.

But until somebody conceptualize it, the first thing of any magic is belief. So if you would have done that a 1000 years before, that would have been magic if you were in the air like that because we didn't have an understanding of that thing. So I do feel like there is this, like, fine line

of, like,

what and this is why You would have to do things in a lab and you would have to keep doing like, does my idea

of, I can fly tying a balloon, a basket to a balloon. Does this have place in the real world?

And so there is this part of taking your feminine idea and putting into masculine form

That has to happen.

Or it's just

an idea over and over again. But how long was the idea of maybe we can fly

an idea over and over again before somebody put it into action.

And so it is like sometimes maybe the idea has to speak in tongues

On us as a whole

before somebody

has the words for it, and then somebody else even has the conceptual idea of how to do it.

No. I a 100%

agree. That's where they're making it objective. They took this subjective idea.

Like, no. I really do feel like we can do this. And they made

it reality. Like, I'm gonna talk

To 5 other people and see their face. And they're gonna be in another part of the world, but we're gonna be able to communicate

A thousand other people are gonna be able to watch us at the same time and they're gonna be able to communicate with us too. And this is all gonna happen in real time. And we're gonna be able to, If I would have said this to you even 50 years ago,

people would have been like loony bin.

But The affordability

of it. They're they can't imagine that's gonna be affordable

to everybody?

Or just even the basic telephone. I wanna talk to someone who's not here.

Sure.

And that would have been like, okay, crazy Yeah. For a long time. Like, no. I wanna pick up This can Right now. And put it to my ear, and I'll pick up another can and put it to this ear

in my mouth. And now wanna be able to communicate.

The telephone is now virtualized.

We have virtual telephone systems that work. We have robo dialers that annoy people with Opportunities for extending their car's warranties or insurances or whatever it is. Some Medicare scams over the mail. That's all virtualized. There aren't real human beings Sitting on the phone, going through a list of numbers, going through

dialing the numbers,

there's robo dialers that call. And when they get a live line, it connects it to a human, and they read a script.

That's a virtualization

middleman.

No one would have imagined the virtualization.

That's where it gets complicated. That's where people are like, I don't know, man. It's like, okay, boomer.

Die, please, because you don't understand

computers. You don't understand virtualization. You don't understand what's possible.

So those people need to be killed off so we can advance

Progress so we can get the metaverse up and running. So we can teach kids to code in Minecraft to build their own metaverse

so that they can use that virtual layer Of existence to exist in.

Yeah.

And what child isn't

What child isn't gonna be so receptive to that idea? Because it's a fun game. It makes it fun.

It's very attractive.

They don't have to leave the comfort of their bedroom.

Right? So that's where we continue back to We're talking about this empowering

of people.

And if it's a religious

empowering and a spiritual

setting, There's a lot of people who stand by a pool,

and they think the water's cold,

and they're not gonna dip their toe in because they already know that it's cold,

And they don't wanna share, and they don't wanna be uncomfortable.

You can't force someone off a diving board.

So, ultimately,

People are gonna literally buy avatars that they own, lock themselves in closets because

that life will be a lot better for them. Well, there's a level of comfort. If you know you have warm water, you're gonna shower. There's there's people who are like, I don't like showering because I don't like to get my hair wet. I don't wanna shower because I don't have warm water. Well, it's like if you're afraid

of taking a cold water shower,

at some point, You're gonna get so uncomfortable

in your filth because you're gonna be comfortable

for a time, but then you're gonna sweat, And there's gonna be moisture, and you're gonna it's just gonna get real nasty, and you're gonna have to get uncomfortable.

So when you're forced to get uncomfortable,

do you take responsibility for your own hygiene,

or do you just

rot away in your own filth?

And there's so many people sitting in their own filth,

And they've accepted it. There's, well, it's not so bad. It's not so bad. And everyone's like, it's really, really bad, but you've accepted it as not being bad.

You don't smell yourself anymore, and you just think, well, it's okay. This is this is acceptable. I can accept this.

But then there's a higher level of things where it's like, no. You have to clean your room. And Jordan Peterson,

for all he's worth,

he'll tell you the truth. Clean your room first. Wash your penis. Whatever it is, he's all concerned about the hygiene.

And there's aspects of mental hygiene. You have to Not be brainwashed, but

wash your mind from the filth

of the culture, from the popular culture,

from the lies.

It's a constant process. You have to continually

wash and maintain

a level of hygiene,

And you have to do it yourself and you can't be upset

and angry

that living is dirty

And you have to maintain a clean space.

That's real childish and selfish to say, well,

Man, I can't believe I'm making such a mess. Can someone else come and clean this up for me? It's like, no. When you get yourself into a mess,

Well, that's where the fun starts. And in our project, when you get into a little messy project and you start discovering things, but then at this, at some point you do have to clean up your supplies and clean your workbench to start a new project.

If people can't abandon 1 project to take what they've learned

To clean their workbench, to have the hygiene, to start a new project,

then they don't take what they've experienced and build up To the next

level. If it's an RPG and you put all your stats in charisma, and you're really good at talking to people,

but But you have no other skills. You have no other intelligence. You have no physical build. You're not lifting weights. You can't move anything.

Then you're just, talking ahead of us a lot of hot air.

See, and and I like where you went with the video games with this because In this virtual world, because in in subjective

reality terms, and this is why you have to balance these two things.

In subjective reality terms,

this guy that,

Alan Mark is talking about, he could he is a grand wizard of the 80 800

90th degree that can, you know, and he's king of the world. He does what he wants, and he walked around all day having a great day, and

Everything was awesome. Even though in reality, this dude was some fucking kid in his mom's basement that jug 2 jolts,

And his his body is absolutely unhealthy. Nothing good about his life. Mhmm. Subjectively,

he felt like there was because he's living in this virtual

A fantasy of fulfillment.

Right. So so you need to it needs to be this balance between the two things. It can't just be about Feeling good. And and

again, that that has become a virtue of any kind of,

religion or anything like that. If it makes you feel good or gives you comfort, then it's a good thing. Right. Well, then that kid playing video games all day in his mom's basement till he's Freaking 60 and and his mom's dead, and he's trying to figure out how to act keep paying for that. That dude's life was good too

According to that exact same standard.

You know? There there has to be a a balance between these Two things. Lose the opposite of the person who is wanting to feel good all the time and seeking pleasure and avoiding pain. There's a person that is willingly subjecting themselves to pain as some sort Religious

aesthetic thinking that is going to be the path to salvation

where they're constantly self flagellating.

They're virtuous signaling. They're going through all the worst

Experiences of life thinking that somehow

somehow that's gonna lead to sainthood, that somehow someone's gonna recognize that And give them an award

and then give them a foundation and then make a, you know, a charitable donation,

Society,

philanthropic effort in their name and name something after them, and then they're gonna become a great hero in this world because

they,

You know, starve themselves

and self flagellated.

Right. Yeah. Right.

It's the resistance

with the flow.

You have to have that's the, you know, the idea

biblically. If God only gives you what you can handle.

It's the shadow work. It's why you feel so good because your, your muscles are so big and you're So high on life, and you're like, I got this shit under control,

and then

it's time for your next layer. You weren't ready for that layer before. Your muscles were too weak, But now you're a better swimmer, and you're into waters that you've never even held your breath in. And so it's like that new layer is that much More difficult, but you weren't even ready. You didn't have the eyes to see that layer yet.

So you kinda have to take these

steps up the ladder. You know? It's all rungs.

Wrong. Yeah.

Little resistance, a little flow.

Supposedly, there's 72 of them.

72 rungs?

Mhmm.

Yeah. We're gonna have a model for, Ben's tree of life, and it's gonna be 72

inches tall.

Oh.

Mhmm.

Mhmm. How long do you have to get this model done?

My presentation

June is October 22nd.

I made a I made a mock up of it,

but it's,

I fell apart a little bit.

Is this the thing you started on the flow state?

Yes. Yeah. Well

Doesn't have a Been many years in the making. Now we've got a

A goal to achieve here for a presentation.

So we're working as a group to sort of Broke because it got Mhmm.

And it's still not even I have a word. Because this is the only thing I've worked out is the ego level and the etheric level. I've still gotta work out the crystal level

And then make it all come together.

If you're gonna do the bigger one and just, like, Tap weld it. You can do little,

half rings inside of it, and then you can put light inside each one to make it colored.

You know how they have that LED

tube lighting? Oh, yeah.

Well, I see the horny male cat. He's yelling at my window

literally right now.

Yeah. I don't know if I that sounds like a blues song.

He's like, I smell something good in there, and it ain't food, boys.

The lattice work Jim's working on there?

So this is

This is just

You color that, Jim? I didn't color it. Or is it just because

it's against your, little screen thing? Yeah. I just stuck wax and, some wires together to get the, outline, and it's kind of

It's kinda warm in here, but it's falling apart, but this is this is the outside

of

of the tree.

There's gonna be a

there's a there's an ax axle down the middle, like an axis

Between

all these points,

all these shocker points The axis.

The axis.

There's so much. It it all it all everything boils down

to it

and comes back to it and

Makes it up, and also,

it's so,

it's like, fractilated,

I guess is a a word for it. It's like

like it goes in and out

and back in and like an apple. Like, if you're

walking up through

up up the from the core and you walk all the way around the apple and then you go back in the bottom.

Imagine,

like like, when you when you spin

a spin a quarter on the table, and that when it gets, like,

Towards the end of the spin, and it gets all wobbly.

Like, that's how I imagine the tourist

fields go because there's 1 big tourist, and then there's

3 more inside?

Mhmm. Yep. Working as like a working as like a series parallel battery system because each of those 3 is its own individual

cell, but then the 3 are in parallel with each other making this whole big cell of you.

Yeah. And there's it's like imagine

in hyperspace, this is happening, and 2 coins got spun In opposite directions at in the same

same space.

And going around each coin, there's like a race car driving around the outside of the edge, and they're going

There's and then there's 4 of them in the same space.

The the coin that's spinning clockwise,

there's a race car going around

Clockwise around the edge of it and and going counterclockwise around the edge of it. And then on the one that's going counterclockwise,

there's 2 race cars on it. And those race cars are

The point of reality where it's at, and they're counter spinning, but it's both in the same place. Like,

It's it's it's like a like an up up and down at the same time. In and out at the same time. The same way.

It's because when things are counter, it's like this. So it's going like this and you can see my 2 hands are rotating opposite.

Yes. When I actually go like this, they're actually rotating exactly the fucking same.

And this is what we're trying to do with the great work because now we put them together and then now it's one thing. Because they were always the same thing,

experiencing

life through being Oppositional

and creating a polarity,

and then it's overcoming that that brings it back together.

That's what we're talking about. Possibilities Happening at 1 in one moment in one space,

but it's all space.

And, like,

this is,

Oops. Shit. There.

So these the red 2 red circles on the top,

that's that's not Two circles. It looks like 2 circles if you slice, it like a piece of bread,

but it's actually,

like a doughnut.

A donut that the center overlaps on itself as it goes around.

But if you looked at it from the top, it would look like a circle

With

it's super complicated. That's like a Pisces

right here. But It's super complicated

to explain.

But it's so easy. It's so easy. It's the simplest thing in the

yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is the this is this is Ben's drawing that It boggled my mind because I was like,

because and there's so many so many things, but these are just like, you have to show

It's just this part

is, like, technically what my model is, and this is, like, what the tree is. But the tree also has these

Are you seeing my mouth? In the field. Okay. Ben Yeah. You just we could see your mouth. Yeah. So this this one's going going, Yeah. Clockwise. This one's going counterclockwise

as

this one's going

opposite to this one.

This one goes the same as this one.

This one goes the same as that one.

It's like,

They flip flop. Dun dun. Yes. And then and they flip flop at the same time.

It's like, dun dun.

Why does it go like, dun dun

dun dun dun?

Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Exactly right. Uh-huh. And that's why the Kundalini snakes do that. Like that, and then, like that. That's your Kundalini.

If this is going around this way, the Kundalini snake, it goes up to here, and then it catches right on this one. And it goes around here, and then it catches right on this one. It goes around here, but it's going really fast.

So it goes to to to.

Yes.

Yes. But it's it's also going both ways

and both

it's all it's all reality. It's all.

And if you look through the 2 If you separate any of the individual 3, they all work fully On their own. Because as above so below, everything is an individualized

system that's fractal of the whole. Fractal. And so

In each of those functions in and of itself, the same as the overall system functions. It's

fucking Perfect.

Ben, is is this what what you feel like Odin showed you out there? Yes.

So this is what I feel like the owl showed

me.

Fantastic.

Yeah. I mean, it's not this the whole thing. Like, And that's the whole thing I can understand.

So we your experience with the owl and my experience with Odin was subjective.

But objectively,

this is reality.

Yeah. So the subject is experience is matching an objective reality

that's overall.

This is the 369

too.

Yeah. Yes. Mhmm. This is the 369.

Yes. Like, I can see it moving in my head. I always think of Things in a,

energetic way that

could produce

energy and you only have to click it once and it would run forever.

And if you flicked any one of these circles, if they were even flat planes

and you flicked any one of them and they started to fan,

It would make every one of the other ones fan, and I can see where they would connect

with,

like, if it were

All just metal pieces. I can see how it would just keep going infinitely once you hit one once.

Yeah. I don't know if that makes sense. Yo. Yeah. Like no. It makes absolutely sense. Mhmm. It does to me. Because they're all tied in interdependent. They're all the same. So that whole thing, just Everything goes as one, and then the energy flows from the outside through the center on the inside,

like like just like the torus

Because all of it then creates in an overall field that becomes this whole thing, and then it all goes through these eyes

like like,

Jim was just talking about.

And that's after you get your Kundalini energy flowing properly

because after it as you get it going up through the whole system.

Yeah. Now this is what I'm talking about. If you divide it at the heart center line,

you can see that there's 2 of these

Actually and then the triangle is your 369

and then the this other piece. And there's 2 of these that are opposite fields because, again, we're Positional.

And so it's 2 of these fields actually that we're making, 1 above and 1 below. And so when these different cosmologies

only wanna

Focus on the upper side without understanding that there's an exact polarized underside

and that you need to purify both sides as an alchemist and put them back Together

because the two things were always 1, and this is just an experience

of separation

that

You are never gonna get the whole fucking picture. You're always gonna be half assing.

And then as well pull up that if you pull up that picture with the circles, the 6 circles on it, Jim, you can You can see where this is overlaid. This is that other thing I was doing.

I've some of these are like the pictures where I'm working stuff out in my own head and so on. So it makes it really Cluttered looking, and I apologize.

But you can see if you take at the yellow center heart line and make a lot a hard line across it, You can see the triangle right there. There's your 369

triangle,

and then here's your 1, 2,

4, 5, 7, 8 right there. And this is your energy vortex for your etheric side, and then you've or your feminine side, and then you've got your energy vortex for your masculine and structured side.

And the two things are exactly the same. And so literally when you're doing the great work, you're basically folding these 2 back over

On top of each other and making them one thing.

And the because right now, they're being held apart,

oppositionally, but being held together by that 3rd

eye, the eagle.

So where where's 9?

Is it here? The the the

369 is your top. Very top point right there. Very top.

Go right above the blue eye with your mouse. Right here. Your 9.

Not at all. Here at this corner is your 3. So 3.

There's your 3.

Okay. Yep. There's your 3. Then here's Here's your 6 over here.

The no. No. No. No. Not 4. Because over here. 6 is over there. So that's making your 369,

Trang. 369.

Yep. Now up here in this corner,

in the right top right corner

Is your 1, and then on the right hand side still is your 2.

2. And

Oh, I see the numbers. So okay. Yeah. I didn't see that.

Yeah. Yeah. And then it jumps down to the 4 because it skipped 3. 3 is part of the triangle.

143. 124. 124.

Because you're skipping the 3 because 3 the 3, 6, and 9 Oh, that's 4. Deleted from that part. K. 1, 2, 4. He's like jumps 4, 5 5. 5 straight across, and then 7 and 8 up here.

7, 8. Oh, shit. Okay.

This this Yes. Changes everything in my head. See, I mean, it It doesn't change it. It just, fortifies it.

Right. Right. Adds more nuance to it. And then if you flip that upside down, the same exact thing happens on the on the bottom side. Repeat. So here's one.

Yep. Here here's one, actually.

Yep.

1, 2,

4,

5, 7, 8. 26. And if you invert it, it's the same. Right? Or

Yep. It's a mirror. It's mirrored. It's a mirror. It's a mirror. Yeah. Of symmetry.

As above so below. You are a mirror of yourself

And then literally the silver of the mirror, the mercury is the thing

that is

makes the transition

through the great work happen, Where you're literally merging with your mirror self.

And it's this mercury, the silver, you know, in between that's allowing

that to happen. Right now, your mercury is black.

It's the carbon, so you need to burn that part out and get to the good

3 in order to allow that merging to happen, but that's part of why that trope is in everything.

So this, this,

Light blue tree

is the mercury tree. And you can see that the purple tree and the orange tree actually overlay at the heart center. That's the mirrored self.

And the lowest

piece of your the highest piece of your lower self is basically the same is the lowest piece of your higher self.

And the ego comes in and locks it together. Well, you need to burn out the dirty ego

And make it into the pure ego that will make these 2 merge into a perfect marriage with each other and you become a union

Of all 3. Because currently, you only have access

to just this 1 through 7. You see that there's actually a higher and lower that aren't Color that you don't have access to,

in like a heathen in the heathen cosmology. It's a great eagle that sits at the top, and it's a great dragon Sits at the bottom.

But when you fully merge the 2, you have full access to your feminine godhead

and your masculine titan root. And so that means you have all the their thought that you could possibly imagine. You've got all the knowledge in the world. And you've got like, you own the fucking parts house. You're like, I know how to build shit, and I got all the parts to build it, baby. And so instant manifestation

of anything that actually fits into this reality. Because you still have to work with the overall rules of the reality.

Because while you became a little g god, you are still not the all father, you're not the all mother, and you're not the all. You are just a little g.

So you can fit inside their overall reality and suddenly become a master of that.

Yeah. We're all gonna do

We're all doing it.

We're all doing it. If you as as you figure it out, it

Makes sense.

And things have been lining up

like crazy in my life since

Since I figured this out, I I think it's I feel like it's directly related to it.

Like, just just these

Like, I was I was talking on the phone to Sean about how things were lining up,

and I was walking my dogs.

And

They're both on

2 leashes that are tied together. And the big dog, I hang on to his, choke chain. Right?

Like, kind of high on the choke where the where the where the clip goes onto his choke chain so he doesn't so I can keep keep him close and Keep a hold of And, as I was walking, I accidentally un unclipped

his collar from the choke chain. And,

I have I have this,

this comb in my pocket,

a little hook on it.

And the the dog the dog,

He, like, heard the clip, and usually, like, in the when I unclip him in the yard, he, like, runs around and prances and stuff. And So, like, you heard the unclip, and he, like, kinda looked. And then he, like, goes to, like, book, and I go and I just, like, swing my arm up, like like a like a quick draw to, like, grab him. Like, but I I didn't even get him. I I like

I I hit,

I hit the the comb

on the way by And it flipped out of my pocket

and goes into my hand, and then I, like, go and I'm, like try to grab him by, like, his the hair on on the back of him, Like, right on his rump.

And as soon as I as soon as I hit him, he goes,

and I hooked

I hooked the comb this comb on the ring of the of the choke chain.

Like, it was like a perfect grab.

I took a picture of it. Like, what I mean, I've I, like, recreated it so I could take this picture because it was such a like

like, it's a 1 in a 1000000. Like, I didn't even wasn't even trying to, like, pull this out of my pocket. Like, I hit it on the way through, and it and it spun, like, into my hand over.

And I was like and I was talking on the phone to Sean at the exact moment. I was like, dude,

I don't know what just happened, but I I feel like It's the universe telling me

that I'm on the right path. That you've got superpowers, and you didn't even know. We we this is the bullshit that We've been told that we don't have superpowers.

We do. Yes. Or that superpowers

are not real or that's not normal.

Like, the we Right. We call these things paranormal,

but they're that's the norm. That's the norm that It's not normal to live handicapped.

They're forcing a mental handicap, a spiritual handicap. Every handicap at every possible level

is forced upon you. The child who doesn't know, who hasn't been told repeatedly what the handicap is, Performs exceptionally, and they call this person a virtuoso

or a genius. This is a human child

living

Naturally,

without these forced limitations on someone.

So so that's how it happens. But, like, I was actually

Using my right hand

to with the comb was in my right hand because my phone was in the left hand. I had to switch sides to take a picture

Because, like, I'm holding the dog's leash, you know, all this

stuff, but that's how it hooked. Like, in the choke chain right here.

It it was so fucking crazy.

I was like, oh my god. What the

and now and the first thing I thought was, it's it's The fucking tree.

It's Mhmm.

It's this understanding, and I feel like I'm going through the donut of the Taurus All the time. I'm looking through one end, and I can see a 1,000 miles through it. And when you look through it, you can also see

around it. It's like, you know, they have the telescope that can see around they could, you know, see around the universe

or something, and you could see the future.

They're looking through the the

I don't know if they're looking through the bottom up or the or the top down, but I think that's how it works. There's a maybe both. You look through one side, it goes around the other. Like, this is this is how this is how

a a hollow earth works.

It's not a hollow rim. It's a flat plane,

but the plane

is not flat. It's it's a it's a it's

flat as we see it.

But if you walk through it, you're walking around a doughnut.

But an an ant doesn't know if it's on a flat piece of paper or if the paper's curved. It doesn't matter to the ant. The ant's just on its Spot. It's just walking through its plane.

Like,

it's we look and it's flat to us.

But if we could actually see

the shape of the plane that we're on,

it's in hyperspace,

And it's curved around the doughnut through the middle of the doughnut at the same time. Like, horror like like the plain

oh, god. It's just

It's so is it

it makes so much sense. It's so elegant

and

beautiful. It's it's just crazy.

I I gotta say what to say. Even without the,

Flattoberfest

part,

just the experience I've had with you guys trying to Get this prepared.

It has been worth all of it. Even if Frick and Flank over effects got canceled tomorrow,

Just the experience I've had with you guys from trying to do this

has has made it all worthwhile.

Absolutely.

I'm so happy to be a part of of of it with you

and going through it. I Yeah. That's why I was like, I'm gonna help you. Not because I know how to do anything on a computer, but

I have to see. I I have to see it. And,

you know, I think I think so. I think it'll work out.

I mean, I I if if we can show anybody,

one person, it would be worthwhile. Yeah. It it would be worthwhile to create a tutorial video To build with, the toothpicks and the marshmallows or whatever you have available

to build that structure of the lattice

The gym build, if you show it again. And what do you start with?

What is it? Like, 88 toothpicks, and how many of vertices do you have?

I think there's 52

toothpicks.

Sure. What is the basic structure? It's It's that first what is that? A tetrahedral?

They're pyramids.

Right. They're it they're,

Is that such a? Yeah. Their bases are together, and one's, one's upside down and one's right side up. So it's a base of 4. It starts with a square.

So you have 4 pieces with 4

Pyramids with

a with a full with 44 on the bottom and Right. They're,

Equilateral

triangles.

And, this is a this is a cube, so there's

there's 4, there's 3,

Which is the

it's, you know,

it's the square and the compass.

4 has

Four points or a square square. When he's moving this around, you start seeing, like, the 6 pointed star and else? Yeah. The Merkaba. I'll say is really cool. Yeah. It does look a little bit like this, right, where you start to build the lines.

Yes. Well, you see it. Well, what's it gonna turn into?

So I can know this is a perspective in a cube.

It comes together, and it keeps going.

What is the shape?

There it is.

Oh. Yeah. So it's a matter of perspective.

It's it's a hyper Space. Look at it again.

The Lima.

Where did they get that shape?

It's the magic of everything. I know. It's all the shapes. It's the cross. Everything. It's the merkaba.

It's like 2 cross.

It's Space Force.

Mhmm.

So everything. This is why I have such a strict thing where, like, when somebody says So that's out of line. I get kinda dickish about it. Like,

no.

No.

Because because it has the way and measure against the lab and against

my map. Like, this is there's there's

I I I can Except a lot of things. I I I have a very open mind, but at the same time, I'm not, like, infinitely open where I can just buy any bullshit.

Like, you know, it has to fit inside this certain framework.

You know? It does.

Whatever it is, it does.

There's a blueprint,

and you're hired to build the building. You have to follow the blueprint.

There's a structural integrity to the situation. If you if you,

You know, flub some numbers and you cut some corn. It's not gonna be what the designer

designed, And you, the builder, you have to build it to the specification.

And Balderson here has a specification

with a blueprint in his mind, And he's tasked us with building it in the real world with

toothpicks and marshmallows

on that level, drawing it from different perspectives. And, ultimately, with an end goal of having a 3 representation of this so we can have a virtual camera moving around to see it from Different perspectives.

We we're all

Solomon.

God has tasked us with building the temple.

Mhmm.

Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. It is. Do you know how bad a headaches I have constantly with this?

Like Oh.

Like, for the last so many years, there was a time period for, like, 6 months. I swear I felt like Fire hose was attached to my head and information was just constantly

going in there and reordering and repositioning

And fitting and locking together until my brain felt like it was gonna fucking explode constantly just like.

Well, it worked out.

5 years later, it's taken shape.

It takes time to to get everything organized in such a way so you can

You know,

how long does it take to build a rocket rocket? And then with the rocket, they actually can fly to the moon.

Allegedly.

Astros.

Maybe. Possibly. If you can imagine it. They use the model of,

Doing a real thing after

a lot of work,

but they just, were really good at hiding

theft.

But, yeah, this is still so cool.

It's so cool. Man,

Like like, this presentation

is gonna be so awesome, and I know that's why I'm going through so much hell right now because I don't complain a lot and whatnot. Mhmm. I don't really talk about that stuff. My everything has been breaking and everything.

Like, I am literally on a constant fix something,

and it was, like, All these things kept breaking in my lab and in the house,

and then my fucking truck broke, and then my dog retrogrades

over on the second.

Oh,

and you know what's weird? Today My 2 youngest Mercury retrograde is over today. Already? You're totally going to Flatathon.

Mhmm. PhoneWords. Flattopia.

What's it called again? Gonna work out. I said flat All of those things. Does not. I like those things

better.

So last time I took our best. Ben, when I when I was shown

What I think this is,

it was more of a Mandelbrot

set kind of thing. You guys know what the Mandelbrot set is? Yeah.

So it's the it's the,

fractal linear. It's the basis of

of

fractal linear,

equation.

And when you look at

a

Mandelbrot set. It's it's a math equation

that

is constantly going in and out of the same thing. But when you look at it From a side, it looks like the body of a Buddha.

Interesting.

Ellen, can you pull up a

Yeah. That's it. I already got it. Oh, she was going too.

So if you

if you put that This is also the 369,

though, Gordy, Which Exactly. If you yeah. It's the same, like, circulars if you take them,

the size of them.

If you keep going in, it'll always be another another thing. It'll be different. It'll look like it's different, and then it becomes the same thing. And then it'll look like it's different and then it becomes the same thing, and it's

and it's the same thing. Because if any one thing in the pattern changes, the entire pattern always

changes. Right. So it's always the same thing.

It's a constant and an inconstant at the same time.

Yes.

And the inconstant

is usually just because you haven't zoomed in or you haven't zoomed back out far enough or even far enough. So, like, when you look at, like, the way that the fixed stars and the constellations

work and that the wandering stars Completely different and they don't move in that same pattern. That's because you haven't drawn the pattern out far enough. Eventually, the 2 lock step into a pattern

That repeats itself over and over again. You just haven't seen the pattern,

from the right perspective.

Yeah. That's exactly right. Yeah. Mhmm.

And I've been having the hardest time trying to explain this. I've been trying to write this

Idea. Dude.

And it's it's been such a fucking bitch, dude. It has been a

It's just trying to

to get these these concepts

into

into language is

Almost impossible.

They an experience.

They couldn't I was tall. Model mountains In, like, video games. It was, like, too hard, took too long until they put they use this

to do it, and it actually

is the way the mountains grow

or like like a tree branch. You know? Or a river runs.

Yeah. Everything natural

runs in this

Can I share my screen?

So right in the same time period when I was gifted this And I was figuring this out and everything else. So that psychic that I went and saw that I said was just scary.

So she was actually doing a her reading for Christy,

and I'm sitting just in and I as soon as I got close enough to her,

This lady all said her eyes went wide, and she's like, you're a wizard on a mountain.

And then she's like,

She goes, the rest of the world is receivers and you're an antenna, and you need to come off the mountain and start talking to people.

And I'm like and I haven't even said anything to this lady. I'm like, what

the fuck lady?

And I am very people don't even realize, like I said in person, I hardly talk.

And,

my wife gets and my wife's the only one I really talk to very much at all. And And then it when I talk too much on shows, I won't talk at home. I have, like,

a a limit a a certain amount of words I can use every day.

But it was so hard for me to learn how to communicate that, and And you guy everybody owes Christie a debt of gratitude that they don't even know

that,

she took so much abuse because I would explain things.

And,

I always explained it very simply and succinctly,

and then she'd be like, Yeah. Don't get it. And I would just get pissed. Just pissed.

I'd throw a big old temper tantrum.

And you know, what the fuck do you mean you don't get it? I just literally said what it is, like, in perfect

what the hell?

Yeah. You know? And and over and over and over again. And and and

this went on for years to Try and get me even close to this point,

and, yeah, trying to put words to the

Elegance and beauty and simplicity is something that also encompasses

everything

is a near impossibility.

Mhmm.

Yeah.

Yeah. And it's beautiful. It's the most beautiful thing you've ever seen.

But I I do think that this

is the equation that the Buddha was supposed

to have embodied

that

that,

it's been bastardized

Or, you know, made into a token or talisman

or idol.

In this thing you were showing, Gordy, this is super interesting to me Because this thing that you were showing was pretty much the feminine side of because I was originally just gifted the masculine side, and I've been working in the feminine side this last

Fear where the circles now are making sense and why that's working and everything and putting,

mechanics to that. We're on the flip side. Look at that picture that was just up. It's almost entirely circular. It's all circular. Yeah. Exactly.

You're you're in the squares. This the last time was all the circles.

Yes. Feminine Electric.

Ben, the feminine

The feminine, I think, is electric and the masculine is magnetic.

And and so that's why you've got a red and a blue.

And then that flips at the heart chakra, which is your copper and your iron. Now everything above the heart chakra is Is,

actually

pushes against magnetism. Everything below it is

magnetic

except for this heart chakra where you have iron, which is ferromagnetic,

and you have copper,

which is supposed to be magnetic,

But acts like it isn't because the 2 electrons are pairing off with each other and making it appear

almost resemble non magnetic.

So in that weirdness

is where that flip is happening

and the 2 are going above and the mercury is what's Here is making that transition above

able to happen,

into those, platinum level elements.

And this is that's the other part that's really been hard is making all this a reality for our world, matching it to the human body, matching it to the luminaries,

Explaining why this works on an actual science level.

Like, that's also a hard element to add into all this

And something

I do I I I believe all the time.

That's one of the things that a lot of people talk about. Like, I I really And it's part of my Odin's Alchemy,

tagline is I bring, you know, magic to reality.

It's only magic because we don't get it how it fucking works.

Once you you know,

a 100 years ago, this would have been magic.

Yeah. No.

It'll remain magic, and we'll have a deeper understanding of how to utilize it.

Yes. It will still remain magic, but, Yeah. Exactly. This gives you the mechanics behind it. And once we get that, we can start working with that

and

Then actually start making these things happen. But you can see the iron and the copper is where that polarity flip happens, where, Say the blue lines on the left and the red lines on the right, it flips over there at that center,

and it's doing that partially because that center is really odd

Comparative to the rest of the to the rest of the system. It's pretty weird.

It's all very elegant. And when people see the 3 d models of it With virtual cameras so they can get different perspectives,

they'll be able to imagine it. And once you have the imagining done for you, you can integrate it and then begin to see it for yourself.

There's people who don't have that ability to visualize it from

a description using just the words.

And if you got the words,

then you put it down on paper and do a napkin just to sketch it out. That's still a 2 dimensional

representation.

What we're working towards is a three-dimensional

of the idea.

Because man is 3 d. Exactly. I can turn myself around, and you can see me from different perspectives.

Exactly. We have to we have to do a million drawings.

And then if we could overlay them all at once, look at them all at once, we

Something will take shape. Mhmm. But you really need to, like, turn it around in your head.

There's an entire movie here, and we're taking one still frame from the entire movie.

We're trying to explain the movie to people, and they don't even have access to the soundtrack, so they can't even hear it. Once you see it, you hear it, you taste it, you feel it, you touch it On all the levels, then you can integrate it.

Yep.

Yep. And then the world mind,

this comes. Because I truly believe that this was In the world mind at some point. And even the occult books don't lay this out. Mhmm. And,

Yeah.

So I I don't find it. I don't find this.

None. Nowhere.

Nowhere.

And I searched I owned some of the most crazy occult books,

and good luck finding

it. Good luck finding Young talking about this or Steiner or any of the legendary

and hidden masters.

Yeah. They've been hidden. And only

the the people that have it, that information

are the very top top top secret secret guys in whatever club. They don't even give it to the people below them because they're like, this is my power. Because once you understand this, you have the power of the universe

at your

fingertips,

at your mind's eye.

It's

incredible.

Like, that's what we're doing right now. I think, you know, we're we're charged with sharing this again.

Like how, like, it's proof.

If

you

if if, like, they show us a puzzle in this room right now, And it'll take us a certain amount of time to do it. But if the as soon as we figure it out, the next group of people will do it quicker

Because we're like a 100 monkeys.

There's something about this

that putting it into real form,

It it will do something to everybody collectively,

even the intention put into it, like,

of everybody creating it,

Coming out of this and then it gets bigger. And then the more people you tell and then they observe it without even knowing it.

Some kid

that now can see something that took you years to conceptualize

and to put into form and all these people's work. Some, you know, 10 year old kid sees it one time

and now free energy

because their brains it's like you're giving

Something that's been stolen from us back to people in a tangible form,

but just doing the work, it enters people's brains That are not even knowing they're getting this because now people can conceptualize

and see it.

And just being able to see it, It makes it it's like the law of observation. You're giving people control of their magic again.

It's pretty cool.

And even drawing this right now, like, in a whole different form than the squares involved at all.

And, like, the infinite pattern that it makes

and even the,

Like, the big shapes of how you could

Pisces

it or, like, get the

6 and the 9 in it. Like, the actual shapes of these things in it. Because I always just think it's symbols that he was talking about when he said if people could just understand the 369.

Like, there's more sigil to a 3 and a 6 and a 9 to me, and there's a flow about a 6 and a 9 that Do this thing if you put them,

you know, reverse of each other electrically.

And then if you did that 3 times,

It would, like, infinite

it would fold out into this flower.

And I cannot and you see all these different, like, the amount of, like, You know, of, like, going through my Manley p Hall books of, like, Rosicrucian

and masonic and hermetic, and I can see all of the symbols in this Of all of those, you know, the big four

type things.

Even, you know, the cross, even, you know, like, the Abraham

Lincoln. Percent.

100%.

And the the cross is apparent.

And even the triple cross because the triple cross, the it'd be the The cross goes across again at the blue square, and you can see this even in the diagram, the yellow eye and the red eye. The cross is going across the other way. You know, that's why your arms are like this. You know, your heart center, this one, the yellow one, and you've got your 6 feet and 6 feet. Well, Stay out of your 6 feet. Right? Because that's your that's literally your field

that that these circles are creating. The feminine side is your field side.

Just just and and and like Chaney was saying, it's all the different cosmologies

this matches. You can you And just lay it out on all of them because this is just a general truth,

a basic truth. It's and I don't give a shit. I wasn't in the secret clubs. I didn't wanna be in your club. I didn't join your club. I don't wanna be in your club. Fuck you guys in your clubs.

This is burning in Cairo. This is the

pyre mid

in Cairo.

Alluding to the title, cornhole for Cairo,

saps and candy corn, ball monsters.

Is it a funeral pyre

Mid?

It burns with desire. You think there was per do you think there was never a body in the funeral pyre mid?

I'm getting ready to talk to Jeffrey Drum who says that those are actually chemical refineries.

That makes a lot of sense. Alright. They have fun. Yes. Power plants. Interesting.

Well, yeah. Power Power power. Power plant. I don't know about chemical repair.

The 2 chemicals come together, and there's a a chamber where that would happen. There's a gravity

Well

Mhmm.

And then when that happens, the reaction happens.

It's a big our chemical

That's Yep. Biochemical

electrical, baby. That's the universe

for a few hours. Yeah. And a big explosion,

tons of power, You wanna use a big thick thing. And plus, like,

I've seen you could build a a sand battery.

Have you seen those? Oh, right. Where

you, like, build a furnace and then you pack it with sand around the outside and you get that shit hot

And the heat, the energy goes into the sand, and then the sand

holds it for hours and hours and hours and hours and hours. It's like the sand On the beach when you start walk with your bare feet, it's so hot that

the sand holds It's a battery. It holds its energy. It's potential energy.

Turkish coffee.

You ever had Turkish coffee? Have you seen them brewed Turkish coffee? Seen it done on the Internet.

I've seen that from the Internet. Yeah. That's cool. Oh, that's Turkish coffee.

So they have a little copper pot. Right? And they have The heating element, and it's a it's just a bowl of sand.

And they hold the the copper pot in the

In the sand, they wave it in the like, just kind of roll it around in the hot sand

until the until the coffee boils, and then they

They pour off just the boiling part, and then they do it again until and then and it's just the boiling part, and then they do it again. But it that's what gets that Smooth,

perfect

taste.

Yeah. I heard that it's, like, the best one of the best ways to heat a, like, a greenhouse.

You, doesn't Doesn't take much energy, but you just

have some fire going into this thing that's hold held with sand. And then

It holds the heat for a long time, and it's just radiating

constant

low

like, not it's not burning hot for the place, but it's

Overnight, you know,

fire burns out. It's okay. It's still warm. Hey. You go put build another fire Is Rose backstage

right now?

No.

Give her been a different point. Give her a link.

Who the fuck is being rude to project change?

Hold on. I'll be back. I think we have it taken care of in the Rockman.

Well, there's a rock Did

Jared get it? I think the issue's been taken care of. No nothing to worry about.

Wouldn't be the first time.

I didn't even talk about how much I love Trump tonight.

All my friends in my chat. That's

That's what gets you knocked out.

Yeah.

I don't I don't I don't

It sends or any information or anything anybody else says. But for as hard as I am on, Jews and that whatnot, I've only ever Deleted 2 people's comments. Well, this will make 2. The other one because they said some real nasty things about Dave and him being a Jew.

And

That shit don't fly. That shit don't fly. No. No. This is my this this room is my house, And you don't get to talk shit about my friends in my house. That's just how that goes.

Yep. Unless you wanna be holding your teeth in your hands.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I think,

Jared must have got it. Thank you, Jared. You are the man. Thank you, Rose. You know, let me Thank you, Rose. Go and tell me I have,

yeah. Thank you, Rose. We all love you.

Thank you, Rose. Up to it, you should come on, but I am definitely gonna bail your kinda yoke. Getting to the end of our stream here. We're getting to that 6 hour walk.

6 hours. It doesn't even feel like

4 minutes.

What is time?

I see what time. I I stand for the entire show.

I have a I wrote down what time we started, so I'm on.

It's

This stream says

549.

Mhmm.

So this I love you guys.

6 hours and 10 minutes. Man. Love you, Balderson. Love you, Balderson. Is awesome.

That is that is awesome. We I

you know,

this has been the hardest

Fucking thing. And I'm so glad you're pulling it from the other side

because

this is something that that

I I've almost felt like it can't be explained

in a in a way. It has to be something experienced that you have to, Like like, what you you're saying no. What triggered me about you

in the beginning was you're

You're getting upset with people saying that alchemy can't happen not in the lab. It has to happen in a laboratory setting. Right?

And then I realized,

I'm the laboratory.

Yes. Nature's nature's the laboratory.

Yes.

Yes. And then it all

so you're right. It the circles

That I I've seen in nature, and everybody can go out and do this and see

a Mandelbrot set. You can see fractals. You can see,

All sorts of sacred geometry out there. If you go out there and experience it, and once you start to experience it, you can't not experience it.

If you're being authentic and

completely open

to what

the nature is going to give you,

And when that happens,

all the

so I'm coming at it from this experiential side. You're coming out from the scientific side, and thank God

Thank God you can explain this

because

I I can't explain what I've seen

other than

it's circles, Everything's in a lot, and everything's one.

Yes.

Exactly. It's a little bit like so simple intelligence. It's like Close and Conners of the 3rd Kind where, you know, Richard Dreyfus' character gets the image of his mind, and he goes and he's like, I got mashed potatoes. And he starts building devil's mashed potatoes. He starts building the Yeah. It's like, it's in here,

and it has to get out. It has to be shown to people.

And then even with your the model you're building is still the model, so it's not the actual thing and has its limits,

but it it's a bridge to understanding

To see it. I still can't build the whole thing.

I mean, even if I even if I had, like it's moving.

Yeah. It's a moving it's a moving thing. And part of me

can see it, the rings in colors

so that when they overlaid at their Pedal, you would see the color interchange. That would be the red and the blue making the purple and the green and the Yes. Like, you would See the primaries.

Make the in betweens. Alright.

Yes.

Yes. Contact us if you guys have at me. Have the power to make

Computer

generated stuff and you wanna do it. We you we would love you to add your skill elaboration.

Yes. We would.

Very much. It's the and why this mixture happens, that's where I'm talking about at the very top. That's why the snake head of this Goes around and bites the tail, and it's not just a a linear movement

because

as this the gold of the cerebrum

is moving into the,

platinum

of the crown

where the 2 mix just like the colors you just said, they become magnetic.

Gold and and platinum mix become magnetic, and then it snaps back and the snake head bites the tail, and the whole thing becomes just One big flow.

What it it like, I can see what Jim was explaining now with the ouroboros

And that if you were to go into the snake's mouth and you could see through it almost transparently,

you would get this Scales, but they would just keep going around you as they were going inside you in the same way that that pattern lays over. You would get, like, the snake scales seeming.

It's pretty insane.

Yes. Dude, like, when I take mushrooms, it turns into a scale for me. Everything in the whole world. And I'm and I'll sit there and I'll watch the scales as they crawl around me and move. And anything that's man made looks all fucked up. Yeah. And I'll, like, Why is this invasive

thing here? It's out of place.

Yes.

People have seen this. See, it was much harder for me to get this feminine side, because I'm, you know, a very masculine type person. So the masculine side came easy for me,

and then the feminine side,

You know, that that was much harder. And

and for And even the mason symbolism in the Checkerboard, you that's just the it's the feminine peeled off.

Like, just in the simple symbolism of it.

Yep. 100%.

100%. And then it's the understanding

that the masculine's giving the structure and the feminine's giving the field the energy

And but that, you know, so it's like and that's where the chicken and the egg thing really comes in. Did that line create the field or did the fields create the 2 line? Did the Two circles that came together and then that's where the two line move move together.

So did which one created which one? Because the 2 were just very

of or interdependent

of each other.

You know?

It's just fantastic.

It's a perpetual motion machine that has no beginning and no end. It's always in perpetual

Yes. Motion.

That's hard to grasp. You're thinking, well, I'm going to repair the motorcycle, but the motorcycle,

it's always

an energy source. It's feeding itself, so it's constantly going. It doesn't stop.

So if you're trying to service it, you can't stop it and say stop moving the wheel, stop the motion.

We're trying to draw 2 dimensional

images, something that is constantly in motion. So we're capturing one frame of one perspective, of one angle, and trying to say, well, it it's kind of like this,

but, no, it isn't because it's never the same thing because it's always in motion.

Yeah.

It's always self regenerating.

And you like how they made

the aura boros into evil always eats itself Rather than your

energy

is is always a a continued renewed flow,

on in on itself,

Like, they made it into something evil and they did that with so much of this, which really bothers me, like, the way everybody

demonizes.

Any occult group really gets demonized. Namely the namely the occult group where they're like, yeah, those were the good white ones. Yeah. No. It's always,

every single one of the groups is evil. Well, what you really end up is, well, what do you really mean you just think this Information's evil and I can't have it. Is that what we're really saying here at the end of the fucking day?

You know?

And the fact is is Is there's a reason that the kings and queens use the occult masters to plan their lives and their empires.

If we could start planning our lives around that, just imagine how we can start living. They're playing

on a different on a different level than we are. They're playing by real rules and giving us a manufactured

world that we think we're winning in and we're not. We're winning in this manufactured

bullshit world that that they've set up. But in reality, the objective part,

They're winning

by far.

We need to fix that.

Yeah. And it's not even planning. Like, once you understand doing it right now. This thing,

It's it it's fractal linear. So

you can predict the model of the tree, which is the reality. And so once you understand that,

Your life falls into place.

Your what what you what the right things to do, the right

paths, the right turns,

the right The way to flow

with things and get to the top,

you can see it because it

it

It's it's a pattern.

You know the map. You know the map. And once you see it, you can't unsee it.

You know the EPCOT ball? It's it's a

the anniversary, I think, is today or yesterday, like, its 40th anniversary.

It is that shape as well. It's a circle.

That's a whole bunch of squares that the squares make triangles.

And if you were to think about it, we See it as a

globe, but if you could push it in,

like, if you could actually

take this circle, this globe that we see, and it were Flat instead and you could push it in. It would just keep folding in on itself

and keep making the circular shape.

Yes.

Exactly.

God, this is like I said, this has been so a 100% worth it. Even if I hadn't done flat earth, I I I just appreciate that this all of this

and that you guys have shared this and understood it, and

it's just been beautiful.

There it is. The skin I've been looking at. That's it. That's it.

You can. You just keep pushing it. Like, this could be

We know because it exists in our world that this is

a

a a circular 3 d item, but Somehow, if I could stick my hand through this thing, it would just keep going infinitely outward.

And that's the pattern that the The,

point goes around the circle. It goes both directions at the same time in this in this roop loop, In this track Yep. But it's going in both directions at both those angles, up opposing angles

the same time, both

counterclockwise,

clockwise,

Up,

down, left and right, right, left.

Imagine, like, If it was flowing, no matter what direction I asked you to see it flowing, you would see it flowing.

Yes. Like, your brain would create the flow of whatever,

Or if I told you it was

it went in,

your brain would see it. But if I told you it poked out, you would see that.

Yes. Wow. Yes. Exactly. Like them little pictures where your your mind and then all it is is the way your mind's perceiving it. It's like, oh, yeah. I think this is this way. Oh, it is. I think it's this way. Oh, it is. Like,

you know, it's just that you're just slightly changing your mind's

set perspect,

perspective

and its perception.

It's freaking beautiful. Right?

They knew when they built that Exactly what they were doing. That was a magical

thing.

The powerful thing. They know.

Yeah.

Yeah. And even

and and even if they don't, like, it the truth is in

In the ether, the truth is there.

And we just need to extract it again. Because again, I think a lot of it is and we're like Alan Greenfeld,

Where he's some high hootie hootie in numerous

secret societies.

And then when he when you face him off against somebody like myself,

He looks pretty dumb.

You know, like, really, dude? How are you even,

you know, raised up? What knowledge set? What abilities did you display that

earned you this rank?

Like, well, no. I,

Okay. Welcome to the good old boy system.

I didn't know anything about this either. Like, even

Tonight, you were like, oh, the atherical

is feminine,

and our body is our masculine.

I've only done DMT twice in about a decade apart. And the first time, I hung out with the Aether, and I didn't even know what that really was. And the more I've heard about it, it's So easy for me to know my description of what I saw with my eyes and what I experienced,

but it was all feminine.

Like,

It was so close to a mother energy that I felt with it, and it was so kind and so soft.

And I thought When I did DMT the second time, I was gonna get to hang out with that again,

and I didn't. It was like a totally masculine

experience. But I also got put in my body for the first time.

Not in, like, my body as Cheney, but, like, my body as, And it was masculine.

Like, when I looked down, it was blue oddly enough because we've been talking about that so much tonight. But when it was just

Sea and air and fire when it was just fire and ice, when it was just these two kind of elements in me,

I was very masculine and strong, and there wasn't it was

like like, just looking down at myself, it was just such a different experience. And it was the same color blue as the ether,

but it was not a soft experience at all. And so I,

For probably a year,

went through the shadow work of what were these two things I experienced.

And now thinking of them As feminine and masculine because I was like, one of these had to have not been real. 1 of these had to have been evil. What was this journey? But knowing the feminine was the feminine and knowing all the words I've said about the masculine experience, that that was a masculine

experience. But they were 2 very divine

experiences

of

this creation.

And I didn't, you know,

I just didn't know that I thought it was really feminine

until today. Feminine is unstoppable

force.

The the and the masculine is the immovable

Object, you know, one's infinite potential

and one's,

you know, well, we have this much potential Like, you know, no. Your potential actually is this.

You know, and it's where the two things meet. What happens when, unstoppable will force meets an immovable object,

life.

Life fucking happens.

You know? And and that was all through the all mother.

Like, it's it's just beautiful.

And if you did that if you did every other one

blue and every other one red

and gave it the, what they always try to separate us in these 2, these 2 blues and reds. They the evil they or the royals, they're always purple in it up. They're always

showing all the color. They're doing this. They're combined,

Feminine and masculine,

like, all through them in their clothes

and, you know, they show us it separate all the time.

Uh-huh.

Exactly. They're playing on one level and wanting us to play on another. It's mockery.

Yeah. It's mockery.

And as soon as we all start playing on their level,

all of a sudden their advantage is completely go away.

Completely.

And then we don't need them anymore. Because why do we? Because why do we get a job? We have a job because I need to eat food and have a roof over my head. If I if I had food in a roof over my head, I wouldn't need the job.

So they've created this neater

This need position for you in order to justify them being the ruler, they need to have people that need rule.

And as soon as you empower yourself to no longer need them,

their position goes away too. Mhmm.

Yeah.

Mhmm. If they if they get you hooked on going to concerts and and hanging out

at all at the airport and flying places and Going somewhere, and then they're like, oh, to do that, you need to to take our magic medicine.

Then you're like, oh, they don't wanna live without those Things that I got used to.

I'll take the magic medicine.

But if if you don't,

All for it, like, knowledge is power. So once we be we get knowledge, we have as much or more power than them.

And Yep.

It's like,

ants,

the movie ants. You know? Like,

the Grasshoppers don't wanna see let the ants know that they they could overpower them. It's like, oh, shit. Kill that guy. Because if they all figured it out.

Jim,

didn't that come out in 1998?

Oh, wow.

Hide it back in.

Bingo. McDonald's,

Beanie Babies, Happy Meal.

Pokemons. Other words.

Pokemons.

I think we covered that one.

It's everybody's surprise.

So next week, we live in your minds.

Is there a monster in your pocket?

Thank you, guys. Love you all.

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