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#wsw 240 Not Your Grandparents Paranormal Conspiracy

Streamed live on Saturday February 17th 2023.

• From UFO Sightings, Kundalini Experiences, and Reiki to Action
• Navigating the Digital Landscape: Politics, Social Media, and Free Speech
• Controversial Jokes, Banned Audiobooks, and Power Dynamics in Society
• Financial Challenges, Technology, and the Impact on Today's Generation
• From Pre-Code Silent Movies to Nudity in Every Media

https://rokfin.com/stream/45310/wsw-240-dont-fear-the-grim-of-mericas

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The Art of Occult Symbols - The Lost Language of Symbolism Audiobook by Harold Bayley

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In this episode, we dive into various topics including the popularity of certain books, mispronunciations in audiobooks, and the transition from silent movies to movies with sound. We also explore European attitudes towards nudity and the use of nipples in media.

In this episode, we delve into controversial jokes, the banning of our audiobooks, and the Indian Act in Canada. We also explore the political landscape and the power dynamics in society.

We explore various topics in this episode, including hog farms, Canadian bacon, animal hybridization, intelligent design, and the power of intention. We share personal experiences with UFO sightings, Kundalini experiences, and Reiki. Throughout, we emphasize the importance of having a clear goal and a positive mindset in manifesting desired outcomes.

In this episode, we cover various topics including politics, social media, free speech, and the state of the world. We discuss the challenges of expressing oneself online, the erosion of free speech, and the polarization of society. Additionally, we touch on the role of social media platforms in shaping public discourse and the impact of AI-generated content. Our conversation highlights the need for open dialogue and the importance of critical thinking in navigating the digital landscape.

In this episode, we discuss our experiences with financial challenges and the importance of perseverance. We also talk about the impact of technology and social media on today's generation.

In this episode, we explore the value of rock stars, the effects of consuming certain substances, the adaptability of the human body, and the challenges of dealing with insurance companies.

(00:00:00) Introduction and discussion about the title of the show

(00:14:37) Conversation about the challenges of crossing the border into Canada

(00:16:20) Rising cost of living in Canada

(00:52:33) Telling Politicians to Off Themselves

(00:55:28) Grimerica Audio Books Banned?

(01:04:06) Discussion about the Indian Act in Canada and the research behind the book

(01:19:00) The power dynamics in society and the influence of big corporations

(01:28:30) Hog farms and Canadian bacon

(01:29:01) Animal hybridization and genetic experiments

(01:36:30) The power of intention and manifestation

(02:04:23) The hosts discuss the impact of debt on people's lives.

(02:05:34) John McAfee and his advice to chase your dreams

(02:08:09) Decline in work ethic and motivation among young people

(02:41:15) Why are some books more popular?

(02:42:08) mispronunciation of words in narrated audiobooks

(02:48:52) Discussion about the transition from silent movies to movies with sound

(03:12:53) The Nipple Keeps Score

(03:17:20) The value of rock stars and personal experiences with consuming them

(03:18:10) adaptability of the human body

(03:20:16) Discussion about evolving and spreading Grimerica podcast

(03:22:15) Don't give up YouTube presence

(03:26:00) True Value of trucks and dealing with insurance companies

(03:37:14) Get off your ass and do something about it

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Showtime. You know you know one that says push the button that I push the button. Push the button. The button.  

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Probably push all the buttons tonight.   We got some we got some outlaws with us.  

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Well, their accents are worse than ours, so   it could get hairy.  

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So we're right on time, 8 PM CST here.   Jim, what's the title of the show?  

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The title of the show is WSW   240,   not your grandparents'   paranormal conspiracy.  

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Is that okay with the, Gray America, guys? Sure.   Go with that one.  

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Sounds good.  

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Alright.   Sounds good for everyone. Love that graphic.  

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Excellent.  

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I made a couple of them just for funsies.   See what we got.  

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Oh,  

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Oh, I love the mash up.  

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Let me rewind the tape. We'll get the intro going again.   With the sound plan, it'll be about 10 minutes, and we'll   be back with Grimerica.   Share the link on all the social medias,   letting everyone know we're live now.   Flutter,  

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batting an eye.  

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No effort. No  

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About another minute here.   We'll be at our destination.  

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Got it.  

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Are we getting to the Rockfins tonight? It's crazy. To verify that.   Think we're closer to our destination now. Somewhere in Canada, I think, is where we're landing.   Little trip to paranormal Canada tonight.  

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The weather is always nice in paranormal Canada right here.  

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Set up in the Pacific Northwest area,   Central Canada.   I've never been to Canada. I've never crossed the border.  

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I've been a couple of  

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times.   It wasn't.  

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Beautiful place.  

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Beautiful border?   Beautiful border. Is there a fence up there?  

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Yeah. There's a fence, and,   it was easy getting in and harder to get back out.   They were checking,   IDs and whatnot, but that was years ago. So I'm sure it's gotten a lot worse now.  

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Do you have to be a certain age to get into Canada?  

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That's a good question. Checking your birthday.  

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And where do you come from?  

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Right.   Oh, I'm over in Minnesota.  

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You'll be fine from the states. Yeah. Okay.  

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Close to Fargo. I've been to Fargo a couple of times. McDonald's is just like any other McDonald's anywhere.   I think they pay more than the Fargo McDonald's.   What's a minimum wage up there?  

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I don't   know.  

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And that's pretty much at parity with, US prices?  

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Yeah. Except it cost everything costs a lot more up here. So it's   this standard living is getting worse and worse up here. I don't know how.   It's it's waking more people up right now, the government, and how unaffordable everything is,   than any kind of anything else right now.   It's getting ridiculous.  

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Yeah. All these books would have the US price and the Canadian price, and there'd be such a huge difference.   And now I think it's just what's the go global price of the thing.  

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Yeah.   Yeah. They keep talking about inflation. You know, it's not going up as fast as it was, but everybody can see it. It's it's,   you know,   it's it's doubling.   It feels like  

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it. Yeah. It's hilarious. They they they claim the inflation in in small percentages, but we can all remember just a few years ago that gas was not $6 a a gallon.   And $2   to $6 is not   15%   or 4% or whatever they try claiming when they're in the fucking senate hearings. Like, that that's 300%.  

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Yeah. I think gas gas for us is probably I would I don't know what Darren thinks. I think it's probably the least   visible as far as, like, inflation. I know it it goes up and down, depends on what province you're in, but food is really what's what's   kicking everybody in their teeth right now. It feels like   food and rent   and mortgages.   What do you think, Darren?  

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Yeah. That's probably accurate in, like, heat and electricity.   I mean,   yeah, it's winter's  

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expensive, especially. You know? We have a carbon tax up here, guys. Like, I know it's just like a conspiracy down there in the states. You hear about these carbon taxes. We've had it for a while. We pay, like, a $100 a month probably at least in carbon tax, and that goes it just flitters away through the government's hand, and   maybe some of it comes back out of their pocket. Who knows? But it's, it's a joke.  

[00:18:03] Unknown:

It's a huge scam.   Yep. I'm here in Washington state, and,   the governor just passed something   a bill in Seattle   where it's a moratorium   on,   new gas service.   If you're building a house, you can't get natural gas anymore.   It's just crazy. That's crazy. You're trying to outline it for the whole state.   It's just insane.  

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So what do you get? This electricity then? This electricity? Just electricity, and prices are sky high with electricity. So How do they make the electricity?  

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Yeah. Here in the lab. Yeah. Is it hydroelectric in in Washington?  

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Yeah. But they wanna shut down, like, 4 dams.  

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Well, what are they how do they expect to get all this electricity then?  

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I don't know. Buy it from,   somewhere else.   Buying foreign natural gas.   I I have no idea. There's it hasn't been thought through. It's just a   it's a  

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get it from down here because they're blowing up the dams down here too.   They they are buying it from us.   Same problem.  

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It's just insane. It wasn't thought out.   It's gonna put people out on the street, I think. You know? People that already can't afford   to pay for food or heat are now gonna,   you know, move to move into their cars, I guess.   It's good good time to think about alternative   energy sources for yourself.   You know, even off grid living, even when you're still on the grid is   the way I like to to think about it.   You know? It's hard to jump right off grid, but  

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You should definitely have options.  

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Yes.  

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It's difficult to even think about the alternatives   to   the power grid if we don't even know what electricity is.   It goes in a battery, and then we just turn the battery on and things just work. But where does where does electricity come from? How does a battery function?   And do Tesla trucks rust just like every other truck?  

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I don't think so. Those stainless steel trucks.  

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I've not heard of stainless steel, is it? So I can every gotta keep them clean. Otherwise, they might corrode a little quicker than than you want them to. Yeah. Every DeLorean I've seen with that brushed stainless steel look has been in a museum,  

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not driving on the road.   It's it's it's just perfectly shiny, but it's in a museum. And it it doesn't drive anywhere, and it won't rust   because it's in a museum.   So these Tesla trucks belong in museums of   failed vehicle designs probably.   But are we there yet? Are are people still waiting for Elon Musk to save us?  

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Dude, you're just, like, you're just, like, jumping on, like I don't know if you watch the show, but, like,  

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this is, like, a point of contention between Graham and I because Graham's a huge Elon apologist. I'm not a Elon apologist. I'm not. Just a little Elon apologist. Just a little one. Not even I just think he makes good quality, better quality products than than the other cars and stuff. Right? That's all.   Oh, hold on. Than most of the other cars you see. Like, he, you know, I I just think he's I'll take my thought. He does a better job at manufacturing this stuff, but I I still think he's, you know, he's he's trouble.  

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Well, like, his his his truck   doesn't go through, like, 2 inches of snow. His his battery, the the Tesla wall pack, while everybody thinks that that thing's awesome, the only thing that that's really for is people that live in the city that have that tiered electrical system where the power is super expensive   during the day and they live off of that Tesla wall.   And then at night it charges up when the electricity is cheap. So that thing has a very even,   discharge and recharge.   And that's not an off grid thing at all. It's not a very good product at all. Like, if you try living up in the way I do off that thing, you'd be tanked. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. I'm not talking about off grid. I'm just talking about, for what he's trying to do. You know?  

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I was considering one of those new lithium   because you can get, like, the lithium 12 volt now for, like, a $1,000 or, like, $800,   and,   that's probably pretty decent for the camper. It's probably pretty   I mean, I haven't looked into recharging them yet, but definitely better than what I'm running now, I'm assuming.  

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With your with your phone, you understand.   If I take my phone and I'm charging it up halfway through, is that good for the battery?   No.   Right.   And that's because that's a lithium battery. So if you're living off grid,   the idea then is is that you're not completely discharging your power on a nightly basis or on a daily basis   that you have a bank of power that's gonna last you quite a bit. And then   depending on the sunlight throughout the day or wind or whichever,   power that you're putting in is going to vary that quite a bit. You know, you're going to get some power coming in. Your your recharge is going to be real weird.   So those lithium batteries are really not an off a good off grid option.  

The,   nano carbon batteries are really awesome.   Those sealed nano carbon batteries are pretty awesome.   Those lithium ones are just they're city things.   Like, they're okay if you're just, on a backup. You need your computer to run for the weekend because the city power went out on a bat on a blackout or something like that. They're really not a very good system.  

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It's sad because didn't Tesla drive from Canada to the States, an electric car way back when in the early 1900,   powering it from the ether or wherever the ionosphere.   And now we've, oh, maybe that's a hoax. I don't know. Somebody says it was a hoax here. Well, everything is a hoax in 2024  

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and don't prove it to be true.   Yeah.   That's with AI generated everything.   You know, we used to call it Photoshop challenges, and we'd   create these,   magazine covers for people.   And we'd kinda fool people with them. But now everything is   just for fun. It's AI generated. And now we don't know who the time person of the year is because everybody is time person of the year on their own AI generated magazine   cover.   So now in terms of   news media and journalism and trying to figure out   if things are   real as an actually   happened event   or not is it's gotten a lot more challenging.  

Not even in terms of just   crime or politics story, but in this case of   a radio tower   that went missing   in Alabama.   Have you heard the story?  

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No. I haven't, but Darren and I were just talking about this exact thing as well about how hard it is to, discern what's going on these days.  

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Right. And this is   probably the last call for   old school broadcasters to figure out, you know, are they gonna   continue to run on AM or FM radio stations?   Is there even   a reason to do so if everything's gonna be Iheartmedia   streaming through an app on your phone?   And you guys   have been doing this for over 10 years now. Right? Starting in, what, 2013 or 14? Yeah. 2013. Yeah.   So you've been kind of over that changeover period where   people didn't quite know what a podcast was maybe, and now   Joe Rogan is back to podcasting   on Apple, I think,   and it is Spotify exclusive. Do you guys have thoughts about that?  



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Good for him. I mean, really. I mean, if someone weighs a $100,000,000   in my face to go exclusive to Spotify, I'll fucking see her on Spotify   if I'm being honest. I mean and and even better for him that he's able to come back on the terms that he's able to come back on where he's gonna now he gets twice as much money, and he gets to put it out on whatever platform he wants.   I mean, I don't know how that works, so I really don't. But, So I guess that's a win for podcasters everywhere.   Or a win for it's a win for someone. For podcasters, for sure, I'd say. And   and whoever's   power whoever the power   is gonna be behind   Joe Rogan and his little cabal are. I don't know who those people are.  

I seem to agree with them on a lot of things and   less on others.   If I had to pick a cabal to, like,   be running it, I guess it's that one. But Elon is still the one who's kicked me off of Twitter and won't let me back on. So   and then I was thinking, well, you know, we me, Gram, and I had this theory that it was   that that I'm stuck in this AI box. Because I like, if I do an appeal, I'll get a response within, like,   30 minutes. You know? Sometimes within 3 minutes. You know? It'll vary sometime within   3 minutes 30 minutes, I'll get this generic response that basically says, no. It's not happening.   But, I had a new account,   and,   I just got a a suspension there too. So   we're saying something   that was pretty,   I mean, I don't know. It seemed like   for one thing, it was the AI that got me, obviously, because it happens like a second. Right? It happens like the second I hit the tweet,   bam, this pop up comes up, and it's like, no. No. You can't say say that.  

And,   technically, I think I can under my   freedom of expression laws in Canada, which I guess Twitter doesn't have to operate under, but they say that they do. Right? His   his whole thing is that   as much free speech   is legally,   you know, possible. So I don't know. I guess   and then the to layer that in post because so what what I said was I I implied that a politician should, you know because it's one of these guys going off about,   overpopulation.   So I'm just like, well, I implied that they should hang themselves then if they want less people. But I didn't even I know that's trouble. Right? If you say hang yourself, then you're gonna get it suspended. So I said   I put Hange Yousef. So it almost looked like an Islamic name, Like, it was like h a n g   e and then capital y o u s e f.  

And and I even had a little exante goo on the e, you know, like the little line on top and boom. Fuck. It nailed me in a second.   So, it got me 12 hours. It was 12 hours after I   corrected my speech   by deleting the speech. So,   you know, is it classy to tell politicians to hang themselves when they're implying that other people should, I guess? We should get it. They're implying that we gotta get rid of some people somewhere somehow.   And I guess   you know, and the other dicey thing is that in Canada, the government is killing, you know, it's like the 4th leading cause of death in Canada   is this medically assisted   death by the government. The government just sends someone over to your house,   they shoot you out with some shit and you just die and that, you know, it's up to 4% of our deaths now are are government   induced, and it's a big thing up here because it started off as, oh, well, you're old and you're, you know, you got a terminal disease. So,   you know, maybe you'd rather do that than ride out some butt cancer.  

But, it turned into this thing where now they're like, you wanna do it for kids? And now it's like, oh, you're a little mental. And it's just like, it's happening at the same time as our healthcare system has collapsed. And so you can just see what they're doing. It's like it's just cheaper to kill someone. So we Straight up Logan's run. Right? Yeah. We had a thing here where we had to disable that that we're trying to get, like, this this thing installed in our house so she could go up from the main floor to the top floor. You know, those little, like, side wheeler things that go up side of the stairs, little handy,   handicap   chair thing.  

Stair alert.   It was expensive. This is like I guess it was like 30, $40 to put in. You gotta put in the whole thing. Killed the lady in gremlins.   So they were like, well,  

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welcome Espialtor.  

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Have you considered just killing yourself?   And I mean, you know, that's that's where we're at. So   when my politicians,   and this is the leader of a poll political party that is very supportive of the MAID program in Canada,   say things like there's too many people on the earth and we gotta get rid of some of them.   And I say you should I should be able to, a, a, I should be able to say you should start by hanging yourself.   And,   b,   it's creepy that the AI picked up on the Islamic name as a   veiled   suicide implication. So what do you guys say? Does it tell him something to kill himself? Because obviously, he can't incite violence.   You can't incite people too violent.  

You can't scream and fire in a movie theater for I, you know, I think that's arguable. I think that's arguable.   But, you wouldn't win that one now. And, like, today's world, you wouldn't win that case. I think as,   as the people who wrote the constitution   wrote it, I don't think they give a fuck if you wrote yelled fire in a in a movie theater. They probably won't even think of a movie theaters. But, anyway,   what about encouraging self harm? Is that,   because, obviously, that's what all these doctors and everything are doing that are telling people to cut their tits off when they're, like, 14 years old or castrate themselves chemically.   Mhmm. So what do you think about telling a politician   to self harm themselves? Do you think that is protected by free speech?  



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Like, everything should be is supposed to be protected by free speech even if you don't like it.   Now at the same at that same point in time, you you hit   a a little area that's kind of a weird gray area where   there's a recognition that people   are   moldable   mentally   a lot of people and are, you know, suggestible.   And if you are   being such a douche as to, you know, suggest things to suggestible people and getting them to harm themselves,   are you then accountable?   Like, that that's,   that's where the crux of that goes.  

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I could take that. You know? I would if he'd read that tweet and was like, oh, shit. He's right. Then, you know, I would probably I could be like, yeah. I'll defend that in court, I guess.  

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But as far as just saying it, I wouldn't wanna say that to someone who's like He wrote us to a signed letter that said Darren from Grim Era. Yeah. It's like my life is worthless. It's funny.  

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He's like thinking about killing myself and you're like, yeah. You should do it. You know, that's fucked up. But, you know, this guy is not gonna kill himself, obviously.   He won't even resign. It's a feedback loop.  

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And like Darren mentioned, I mean, the the Canadian government's not doing very good at their record right right now. Not only with that, but they keep telling people to get boosters. I mean, it's like, at what point,   are they gonna get held accountable for this?  

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Booster seats are for infants to to sit in so they can eat at the big boy table, I think, is   that's that's what that means to me. Yeah. And this this feedback loop thing for social media   where anyone can contact anyone   online. Everybody is now in this global village together.   And if I have an opinion or a thought or recommendation to someone, I just at their username   and send the message directly to them. And publicly, everyone sees that we're having a public conversation,   and they can respond   as well. Isn't this good for democracy?   Isn't this the democratic process where we're discussing ideas and in real time getting feedback and push back   and criticism,   and this helps   everyone?  



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Well, the Canadian politicians won't allow you to mention them, and they won't allow comments on their pages. So   there there should be something about that. If you're in the if you're in public office, you should have to put up with   the   all the bad comments.  

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Yeah.  

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Absolutely. I mean, they're pushing for it here too. You know? That's why you see if you watch the senate hearings at all where they're talking about the way they treated some of the supreme court justices for the decisions and whatnot   and the attacks that they've,   endured,   they they need protections, and that's why they're having senate hearings. So it's just the same exact thing. And then Obama,   passed right before he left office,   passed that you can't,   protest on   federal grounds.   So   same exact thing going on. They're just a little bit behind.  

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And I think you're right with us in real time. Your ping's pretty good, Balderson.   How's that Skylink,   holding up for you? Skylink Skylink, the Internet,  

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Bolt Yeah. Gotta give it you gotta give that one to him. There ain't no doubt about that.  

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I also use Elon Internet, but I ain't interested in sucking his dick.  

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This is a different Yeah. Without the Starlink, the the   only   satellite we have before that, it was really, I think our trees had grown past   the line of where the Saturn Loon sits,   and,   we were really losing access to it. So we had to switch over,   and this one's working pretty good.  

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Statalone, is that a Canadian coin? Like a loon  

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Yeah. It is.  

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SBA Elders joined us. Welcome.  

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Really just all about violence, isn't it?   Violent language and where we stand, and they've moved the window to where people are less comfortable with any violent language at all.   So if you drop particular swear words or slurs,   then now everybody,   clutches their pearls and trips out. And then,   same thing. You know? Of course, you wanna be able to tell the politicians, you know, that you would like to see them kindly, head off into the sunset sooner than later.   And,   and it's presumed that everybody reading it except for the ones that are literally,   retarded,   developmentally disabled if we wanna use their politically correct language.  

Everyone else understands when a politician's on Twitter   and everyone wants to rabble rouse and pile into the comment section and say, we've got some ideas for you.   And, you know, and some of them include inserting overly large objects into your anus, other ones include your death immediately,   etcetera.   You know, everyone understands   that this is just part and parcel of life itself.   You know, if you go down onto the streets in New York and you wanna stand on the corner with your bible and preach, you should anticipate that people are gonna tell you these kinds of things immediately also.   You know?  

If you're in the safety of your home or in the company of your friends, then maybe you have some insulation. But even then after 10 beers,   that also goes out the window.   And then here comes what somebody really thinks, and it's just violence. You know? And people aren't   they've they've got, the vast majority of the population   convinced that they're supposed to be insulated from or protected from violence. They're not supposed to have a thick skin. They're not supposed to be able to defend themselves. They're not supposed to be able to put   with it. They're not supposed to have psychological or emotional strategies for being able to put up with it if it comes their way. And   so then the rest of us that are willing to participate, especially for our own good pleasure and humor,   we just have to suck it up and eat shit. We're not allowed to have fun. Tell politicians   the what we think about how they should surf their surfboards in the tsunamis, etcetera. Are words violence? No. I mean, are is this the new definition of everything where words are violence? Because I thought violence was, like, physical for a while there. I mean, I would agree with that too. I'm going with the premise that now they have moved the window to, you know, that words are violence. I mean,   you know, I mean, if I say I'm gonna fucking kill you and I mean it, I would say, yeah, there's a limit there.  

That's violence,   to a degree  

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because then you could take Well, I mean, it's not violence though. It's it's intended violence. You've stated intended violence, but words aren't what the don't mean shit until you've done it.  

[00:39:05] Unknown:

I just mean as far as the typicality of even in the court, if you tell somebody that and then you make the move, the court would consider it violent language. They would already have you   hold up in their   system as okay, well that was the beginning of the violence, you know.   I just saw So I don't agree with it. I agree with what what Graham said. What's real violence? You know, I get a hold of you by the beard. I jump over the rail. I don't let go of your beard. You either come with me or your beard comes out in my fist.  

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Violence. This is violence. I think that free speech includes should include inciting violence. I mean, I'm not I'm not into that and I'm not encouraging it, but   how the fuck is someone gonna actually take on the federal? You know, the all these amendments and everything, the second one, the first one, they seem to be very much aimed around   taking out the fucking government if it gets out of control,   written by some dudes who just took out the government because it got out of control.   So I mean, how can you do how do you do that? You got all the guns, but you're not allowed to say let's get them boys. So, you know, it just   it's already kind of We're not gonna permit it. And they got everyone to agree to it. They got everyone to go, yeah, incite the violence. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. So who the fuck's ever gonna rally the troops when you can get arrested for it and thrown it. These 2 guys have a really good response. Been there. I mean, really, you have to go past the idea of constitutions and amendments and all that anyway and be like, you know, we inherently have the right to to be violent and have weapons because they exist.  



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And we're willing to mount up in arms and that's the bottom line. And everybody knows that that's true to some degree anyway.   And so, of course, they're gonna play every hedge they can to get people to think of anything opposite or less than that because they know that   they are the ones that are first in line for the guillotine if it comes back around, you know? It's just shitty.  

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The US constitution   under a glass case has been defaced   by 2 guys who dumped red powder on it recently.   February 14th, I think, is when this was published.  

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Kind of  

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the go ahead. It wasn't gunpowder. I don't think it was tea. Kinds, genders,  

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or  

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people of color. I don't know. Happy   Valentine's Day. I say that They love the constitution  

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or they hate the constitution. It's not clear. The science to figure out what the powder was.  

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What was the powder?   Was it anthrax?  

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That's a metal band. That's a common conflation   people get. Powders and metal bands mixed up for some reason. It's a chili powder?  

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Are they trying to get spicy in the constitution?   I don't quite know what their purpose was. Chili powder?  

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Yeah.  

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What are their Nick Cage. Maybe Nick Cage knows. It's like Doesn't he have the real constitution?  

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You know, all the chicks are into that trashy, like, Kool Aid hair dye now. You know? It's probably just some of that. Manic Panic. And it's like all the chicks. Do you are you guys seeing that down there? I mean, it is sort   of Oh, yeah. Starting to subside a little bit here. I was just saying to ground the other day, it's starting to subside.   And then I went to the hardware store today and got served by some, like,   late fifties broad with a bunch of, like, purple shit in her hair. And I'm just like, what the fuck is going on? Like, what These guys are climate change actor. Than   I am.  



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Oh, climate change. That's what it was. 2, I'm gonna add in. I kinda, like, group all deserve clean water, air, and a livable climate.   Decided to put chili powder   on the   constitution   because we all deserve to breathe clean air and drink water and stuff,   I guess.   Same group that was put in Campbell's Soup,   tomato soup, and other pieces of art.   And the   security guards just watch them,   just make sure that no violence happens.  

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What brand   of chili powder?  

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I don't know. Is it, like, McCormick? Are we trying to get a sponsorship here? Well, I'm just wondering if it was a this one. It was a  

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drop. You know, like the Campbell Soup There will be no sponsorships. Campbell Soup might have paid for that. You know? Yeah. Camel soup. Age of new age advertising when a commercial won't do it. You know, you don't know what these   these brands are capable of, and they have the problem. It's protest livestream  

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product placement. You got it, dear. I was waiting for the Kool Aid man to kick down the   wall and save the constitution   from getting stained.  

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I was watching that thing, and I was just like, man, now is the time to rob a bank. Right? These idiots would be, like, riding the cars into each other, trying to chase you. It's just like   everything has degraded so far. Maybe not quite yet. Maybe not quite yet. Let it come down for another decade or so, but it's gonna get to the point where it's could, like, literally Barney Fife and fucking Andy.   Is whatever. I forget the Andy guy's name. And that's who the show is named after. Mayberry. Andy Griffith. Andy Griffith. Andy Griffith. Yeah. It's like these dopes, man. That's like this That's what this is   we're like   a half a generation away from anyone with any real capability,   like, being out of the industry. There's there's still bits and pieces, so you gotta watch. You might, like,   pick the wrong bank and get fucking dropped. Well, you gotta identify yourself properly too. You have to be you have to be for the right ideology. You know? You could tell. You guys know. You could tell. You could, like, walk in and just, like, look at the security guard and know within, like, fucking 10 seconds if that dude is, like, capable or not. You know what I mean? It's not too hard.  



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Walmart readers.  

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Just to go back to that language, though.   Just just to go back to that language thing, I watched a good video the other day. Some guy and some Canadian guy saying that we need to bring profanity back in the politics a little bit more. Like, they, one of our guys going pure I don't know if you guys have heard of this Pierre Polievre guy who's sort of,  

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looks like he's he's  

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he's next in line for Trudeau's job. Well, he he said in parliament   what he said WTF,   and they they basically scolded him and had to retract what he said because he actually   said the abbreviation of what the fuck in parliament. So that's how that's how bad it is up here.  

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Does the brave people swear all the time?  

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Which is interesting because,   you guys are supposedly, you know,   your own free country, but and then so is Ireland. And I was,   a few weeks ago, they had Gordy on,   Gordo from, those conspiracy guys. And he's saying that over in Ireland, it's so crazy over there with, you can't say anything that,   people will bring other people over on vacation,   to get lot to get sued   over slander.   You know, there's an entire industry of bringing other your friends over to some place, because they said some shit and then suing them in Ireland over it.  

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Interesting.   I'm glad that the sequel to Idiocracy turned out to be reality and that ongoing.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Well, Idiocracy was like, that dude was just ripping off Ayn Rand really and making it funny. I mean,   Atlas Shrugged isn't very funny. But, because you could definitely see where he just sort of took it   took that and sort of ran with it. But, yeah, I would agree with that. We're like well, it's not quite the sequel. I would say, like, Idiocracy is a sequel, like, now.   What? 3, 4 generations  

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away from Yeah. About 30 years, 40 years.   Ow, my balls.  

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God, things are moving so fast. I would normally have said agreed 30 or 40 years, but now you could also tell me 3 or 4.   And I just yeah. Like, things are moving so fast that I could   like, the intelligence is just dropping.  

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4 weeks from now,  

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same message. Thing that it's not the only thing that's dropping. I mean,   I I kinda gotta look at it like you guys are that it's fascinating to watch because otherwise, you it's pretty easy to get disappointed and depressed over your fellow humanity.  

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Right.   Well, we we see a lot of,   it peep people are obsessed with the so we see a lot of the bad. But then there's lots and lots of good going on too. But I would say most of that you're seeing with your own eyes person to person. You know, I'm in touch with a lot of people doing a lot of really good affirmative things, whether it be   working outside,   gardening, or whatever, you know, or doing   mental, emotional well-being type of stuff where they're   content, happy, comfortable, you know, making changes and improvements, but you're not seeing that on the   Internet unless you go digging for it. I mean, you can find it.  

To me, a lot of those communities are also become cliche and kinda laughable   because then   I don't know. If you make it into a thing that you're doing,   then it it becomes somehow   almost immediately. You know? That's true. Anything does, but if you're super serious,   like, we're gonna be healthy again this week, guys. Ready? Everybody lift your arms up, you know, or whatever.   It,   it becomes weird right away.  

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Twitter is actively trying to piss me off too, man. I could tell.   It's   just like there's nobody I'm following   that should be saying should be like, there's nowhere this is coming from unless it's like trying to egg me on. Like, I've been I've been on there long enough with my new with my new thing that   it's got me figured out. I follow all these certain people.  

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What's your ad, bro?  

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It's, atlas__@atlas4_   shrugs.   It's it should have me figured out, and it's just like so I was looking at it this morning, and I was getting ready to I was like,   fired up. Right? And I'm getting ready to start, like, just because I, you know, I make my hay. You're getting ready to start the fuckery and they Yeah. Nail it down. I make my hay with, like, I'll find something that's doing alright, and I'll, like, try and throw a witty reply in there and kinda, you know,   get my notoriety off other people's notoriety.   But, and I was just like I was starting to type it out, and I'm just like this fucking shit. How did this even end up here? Now I'm like starting my day kinda aggravated   at some shit that I shouldn't even be in my feet. It shouldn't even be in my feet unless this thing is trying to get me pissed off because it knows that I'm gonna engage with the app more   if I'm fired up. And I think that's how   Elon is boasting about, you know, how he's got higher numbers than ever because I think they're just stoking the   Oh, they are. It's on all the platforms.  

It's like they're just trying to ram us together instead of the echo chambers. They're like, no. No. That's not where the money's at. The money's at, you know, we gotta throw some   some Ku Klux shit in front of the BLM boys and some Yeah. That's so embarrassing.  

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Your power.   Haven't you guys noticed these I think it's polarized.  

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These short videos, you know, you get you get addicted to watching the little short video reels. Right? Like TikTok.   And,   they intentionally publish these fucking videos that don't have any explanation of what they are and they don't have an ending. You know? Like, they're showing somebody doing a project for all of 82 seconds   or for fucking 17 minutes long,   and there's no actual resolution and there's no explanation. And so that drives the engagement through the roof because everybody jumps in the comment section, and they're like, what the fuck is this? Somebody please tell me what this is. And then other people are pissed. And so then people are fighting like, oh, can't you figure this out? Like, oh, yeah. This is a great video. You know? And then, of course, they've got AI bots and everything   programmed to go in there and and pad that, engagement too. And it just or you're, you're on Twitter or Facebook and you're looking at something, and so you go to another tab   to you're gonna add to the conversation. And you come back, and your fucking feed goes, zing.  

And and that post is gone. So you scroll for a half an hour trying to find it. And then so now you've just driven their engagement up and their numbers up. You know? You can't mute the damn videos. You can't pause the video. You pause the video   and you go to make it small, it unpauses it. Okay? So you mute the video, you go to make it to click on something and it unmutes it. And so now they've got you watching the video 5 times in a row just trying to pause and unpause it. That pissed me off, man. I wish they'd all fucking hang themselves. Oh, wait. You're not supposed to say that. Don't say that on Twitter or Elon will be upset with you.  

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He was like I told Darren he's gotta tell him that he needs maid service. I mean, that's all you gotta say now. Canada has the maid service. So just say you need to apply for maid or get your maid service today or whatever the, you know, whatever you wanna do. And then how can they how can they get mad at that? Because that's what the government's actually doing. So they send in a French woman in lingerie and a little feather duster? I don't can you believe they call it maid service? I mean, it's something extra. That cost extra. So we were making our own service, and we were gonna call it gate service.  

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Oh. Gate?  

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Gate Grimerica   assistance in dying is what the acronym would be. And then you get to, you know, you take you take people out and you chuck them out of a plane or you throw them off a cliff or, you know, have your last moments mean something.   Like like, go out in style. Like, you just like Yeah. Feed them 5 or 6 peyote buttons and then unload on them with a rocket. You know? Poisoning, overdoses. I mean, what however you wanna go, like, this make it worth it. What if people wanna go to Valhalla?  

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You know, we could fill them full of amphetamine   and get them a couple hookers, whatever, man. We'll figure it out. Yeah. For 5 days Hold on. Hold on. Where did the hookers come in to get into my Well, I mean, some people are gonna wanna get go out fucking. Right? That's just a given. That's gonna be like a that's like a 20 percenter, dude. That's gonna be one of your top that's gonna be your top sellers. You probably just have some girls on staff. It's definitely gonna be the top seller. It's gonna be up there.  

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There wasn't a connection there between the hose and Valhalla, just so you know. Yeah.  

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That that's all I was questioning.  

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The whole thing Hold on here. Hold on.  

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Sex and death. Definitely your top seller, though.   Death during sex, that's definitely the top seller.  

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What an alien abduction scenario where you opt into it? Yeah. That would be a good one. Yeah.  

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If you wanna be the pussy stuff, then just go see the government, and they'll just shoot you out with some stuff. He'd fall asleep and don't wake up. We're gonna be, like, some hardcore stuff, and we're gonna have a a YouTube channel too. Okay. So you'd meet a man in a Whitney striper mask. Once you're trying to double dip on this, you'll make money too because they pay you to kill them and  

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in a fun way, and you sell it on YouTube. Giant Slingbot. Smart. You name  

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it. We could come up with some creative ways. And then that entices it too because, like, now you wanna die, but you also wanna get some views. I mean, who doesn't want some views in today's world? So it's like, hey. You know, we could plan this together.  

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You're out. Could be the biggest YouTube moment of all time. Do we classify this as, like, doctor Gert has the contact of the 5th kind or the 6th kind or the 7th? And is this, like, the final kind   contact or the final kind where it's you face death for real this time? Yeah. C e 12 or c 13. Yeah.  

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13 would be a good number for it. Yes. That's c e 13. Yeah. Good templar number. C 13. Is that where you is that where you die, but you still have to listen to Steven Greer?  

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You meet him you meet him at the very end?  

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Like, goddamn it.  

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Yeah. He has Why is this sucker still here? We're playing a Greer meditation in your headphones while your your last moments are  

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Your last moments are Greer giving you mouth to mouth resuscitation. He's a trauma  

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he's a trauma surgeon after all. You're just in the chair tied up, and he just slides in and closes the door a little higher.   I'm telling you, that dude is a fucking sex predator.   I'm kinda just saying that, but I've also kinda heard it, like, 3rd hand on half decent authority.   Not that he's a taxpayer. I shouldn't say that. That's rude. Just he's a little freaky.   I think he prefers to be prey.  

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P r e y?  

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Yes. Exactly. Okay. Gotta get the spelling correct. After he's pay p r a y   and a p a I d. After he's p a o d?  

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Darren, I got the ADHD. I'm looking at your Twitter here. And, I noticed a Canadian shame.   Just tell us about that. It looks like they took your audiobook off of the Amazon dotcom.  

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Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, we've been sensitive. We got take we got all of   our audiobooks taken off of,  

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Amazon. First, we had our Kindle account taken down. That's violence against the illiterate. Yeah. It looks like you're still on Barnes and Noble. So that's it looks like Barnes and Noble's trying to get in on their own audiobook thing over here, which I've never seen before.  

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Well, we managed to get some of that shit back into Audible too. So what happened is we got kicked we got kicked off a Kindle for trying to publish content they didn't like.   You know? I still maintain that I've had a target on my back ever since I started.   It started with really when Graham and I started pushing back on the COVID stuff.   And we have multiple border interactions   with,   we're definitely on all the lists. You know? We crossed the border a bunch of times when they were like, you can't cross the border. We just show up and be like, fuck you. We can't. But, you know, we can because   a, b, and c, and then they're like, well,   you gotta do this after  

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borders or the United States to Canada?  

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In back and forth between the US and Canada. So we just It's easier to get into the States than it was to get back into Canada pretty much. At first. At first. Or later. In the beginning, it was harder to get in the States. We had a fake company made up. So they had the essential services. Right? So we were just like, okay.   Print out a list of what the essential services. Like,   one was energy. So we were like, okay. Well, we started a fake energy company, which was really just like a website and business cards.   You just show that to the border guy, and they just Really?  

And then by the end, though, we were just like, you're fed up because it's been years. So we're just like, fuck you, man. We ain't doing it. Get the fuck out of the way. And we crossed the border the one time, and Graham had COVID.  

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So they were  

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they were pissed about that. That was a whole   a whole thing. So I don't know if that's all tied into it, but that's kinda where our thing started. And then we started this other podcast where we complain about the government   quite a bit. And then I wrote a couple books.  

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Yeah. This is still up there on Audible. Canadian Shame, the Indian Act in Residential Schools, which I'm definitely gonna buy this and check it out.  

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So I wrote that book critical to government, and then, like, 6 months later,   the Kindle account was deleted, so my books were gone. But we also have this other business where we take these old books,   like, anything out of print, all Charles Ford stuff, not out of print, sorry, out of copyright   and turn them into audiobooks. Anything that wasn't on Audible or wasn't available on audio that we thought would do well.   You know, the Isis unveiled, a bunch of stuff like that.   And we had done, I think, a 102   or something like that by that time. You guys are reading them yourselves, or you're using AI or what? No. No AI. Graham read, like,   99%   of them, and then we hired some people for some. And then we'd   we'd have the rights to our audio, so we were selling books, and we were making a living.  

And, so they just deleted all that stuff one day. They were just like, well, you know, we don't then they don't even really give you a reason. They just, well, you violated our terms of this and that. And it's like, well, which terms? And, like, well, yeah. We don't really wanna talk to you about that.   The terms. The terms. You violate the number. You just get stuck in this thing where you're not even really talking to people very often. You're just stuck talking to responding to AI. And KDP is notoriously   bad because they don't even have phone number. There's, like, there's no fucking way to get ahold of these people. And it's just like this  

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anyway, so They don't say no. They don't for it. And don't forget, they don't say no. They don't say, oh, you we don't, like, we don't want that book on here or your title's wrong. They just go, your count gone. Like, there's no way to get it back.   You know? So then they they don't that you if they think you  

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audiobook account too. They just axe that. So they we didn't really care about the Kindle account, and we try and work around it. But then they deleted the audiobooks too, so   that was a huge thing. It cost us $10 a month, you know, basically our livelihood,   and, was just shut off, you know, with no notice.  

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To just start a podcast called Juan on Juan and,   talk to Puerto Ricans.  

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Oh, dude. Just one on one thing is going around. That's   the the one on one dude from Florida. Everybody says we look the same. So we had him on. I just met the guy like a week and a half ago, and now there's a weird synchronous Well, he's got a red hat that he made too. He says make esoteric agree again.   So you guys have some ideas. Alchemy great again, doesn't it? I just got this hat in the mail from Jasper Paul. Showed it to Jasper Paul. It says make Alberta great again.   So, anyway, I forget where I was going with all that blah. About, you know, about the, audiobooks and then how we had to go Oh, yes. So, anyway,   we ended up because we were had   we had,   exclusive contracts with Audible for all this, and they just terminated their end of the contract.  

Hunter Books gone.   So   we ended up going to Findaway Voices   because, like, we were trying to deal with ACX, which is the kind of 3rd party   audiobook retail. That's how you get your books into   Audible. So you have to have go through this ACX   rig and roll. But they wouldn't even like, wow. If you're having trouble with KDP, we can't work with you either. And we're just like, what do you what do you mean? It's like, nah. And I was like, well,   can we just, like, use my wife's account? Can she just make a Kindle account that doesn't have my email address in it? And then we'll   do not and I'm like, no. No. You can't fucking do that either.  

So we ended up finding another distributor,   Findaway Voices, and we had to reupload,   you know, a 100 books through them. It took forever.   And, we're still so   some of them are   repopulating into Audible. We're able to get, I think, about 75% of them back into Audible at a much reduced royalty rate   for us, but we're also able to sell them every place else. So you we now get our books every place,   and, we also do a podcast, adult brain dotca,   or adult brain audiobooks podcast where you can get 3 free books every month. We change it every month. And if you pay,   $7 a month, you can get   all the books for free all the time. So it's like a 105 books. Some of them are 30, 40 hours.  

And then we also have a YouTube channel, which is a new thing you just started up where you can still get all these audiobooks. They come out a lot slower, sorta   5, 6, 7 a month depending on how long they are. We release a video every 3 days   or so, every every   Tuesday, Thursday, and Sunday.   But, of course, those are gonna take forever. Right? We have a 107 books now or a 108 books, and we're only releasing   a book or 2 a week because some of these books are 2 and 3 parts. Some of them are even 4 parts, I think.   The secret doctrine   volume 1 is 4 parts on YouTube because YouTube gives you a limit of 12 hours per video.  

And some of these books, dude, are fucking 40 hours long.   That gram read. I just listened to gram for fucking   fucking and   it's fucking editing.   And,   so now you can get those on YouTube. It's taken a while. I think there's 10 or 15 there you can get right now. They do have ads in them, of course. That's how we make money with them on YouTube. Ads.  

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And that's the adult brand YouTube?  

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Yeah. The adult brand audiobooks YouTube.   I think if you're, like, subscribed to YouTube premium, there would not be ads in it and you could listen to them. And then we have a bunch of them uploaded that aren't available yet that if you wanna pay us, like, 2.99 a month on YouTube, that's Canadian. So, like, $2 US. You just get   2 months early access  

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or publishing. So that's like membership to your adult brain site  

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Yeah. On YouTube.   That's right. But they'll just we'll just keep plugging them out for free on YouTube too. Yeah. They're free. Yeah. They're free on here. This this is my Yeah. The 299 just gets you early access. So, like, right now, we're just because we've got told by a bunch of people that if we just upload a 100 audio, that's YouTube, it'll be a kind of a mess.   And we get YouTube might   you know, you might not  

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capitalize on it as much as you could if you could. Yeah. You wanna bleed it off in there, not have it look all spammy or weird, and I get it, man. It's been I'm glad I'm glad that I noticed that with, what was going on because this is really good information, and this is a lot of books that people are interested in for sure.   And, so   I'm curious more about the, Native Schools book.   I mean, did you do   you do a bunch of research and compile it together? Like, I mean,   I I I don't follow your stuff all the time. I drift all around. But, I thought I heard you talking about that book just   2 years ago on a podcast. I don't remember who you were talking to. So, I mean, it's pretty recent, isn't it?  



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Yeah. I think it was 2021,   probably summer of 2020. It's basically a compile.   I mean, I put it together pretty much because I can't remember.   We were looking at doing a couple different podcasts then about the Indian thing.   And, I'm an Indian, so I'm allowed to say Indian. And I'm a person of color Puerto Rican.   I'm allowed to say all sorts of crazy shit.  

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I can He's he's Juan's homunculi.  

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Somebody's mentioned in the chat. We think that's what's happened. Juan's my homunculi. Motherfucker.  

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They they assume that's why you're having problems in the border because you're Puerto Rican.  

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It could be.  

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I forget where I was going with that again. What was that? So well, you don't wanna tell them the truth about Puerto Ricans and Indians tonight, do you? Proof? I don't doppelgongas.  

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Was trying to figure out about all the residential school stuff because I'm an Indian. I'm a card carrying status Indian,   and,   I didn't know any of this shit. You know? I didn't know about the residential school thing started coming. You kinda hear this and that growing up, but no one had really they didn't teach a shit about it in school. And even being an Indian, you know, I'm assimilated.   My mom's white, so I didn't grow up on the res.   But even, like   I grew up with a lot of Indians, dude, that were pretty tied into the res still, and it just never fucking came up. If it was talk it just wasn't.   Either they didn't know because we're already a generation into it.  

Because, I mean, the last school closed in 86 or 96, but the the Indians took them over in the late seventies. So they were Indian run at that point. So there was, like,   no church influences. It was all just Indians and   teaching Indians at by the probably by the late seventies, I'd say.   So they might have been just removed about it, but, you know, I'm, like,   fucking 30   in my thirties, and I start   reading about all this terrible shit. And there's all these, like,   all these I mean, it was only in 2015   that the TRC report came out, and they kinda released all those tapes. They started   hearing from people that did remember being in the schools.  

And I that it came down to I think how it started   was I couldn't find the original version of the Indian Act. Like, there's, like,   the wish washed one from 87, I think, you can get on the Canadian government page.   But that's, like, all the real egregious shit is taken out of there. I mean, people say it's egregious because they still call us Indians, and they call all these different   things that people say might be terrible.   But, the real all the terrible shit about, you know, having to go to school about, you know, Indian ceremonies were banned for,   you know, a 100 years in Canada. I think in the states too probably, but it was illegal to do the sundance or the potluck or any of   that Indian   ritual stuff is outright banned   in Canada for 75 years. You know, for a 100 100 years, they take your kids.  

By the time you hit the age of 6, you had to go to government run and church run residential school until you're 18. So they just come and you had to go, you know, kicking and screaming. The mounties would come   and take you away. So that happened for several generations, and you just couldn't   find nothing about that shit. So I started   digging into trying to find this Indian act   in its original form, which I after I went all this trouble. So I just found, like, the scanned book, and it was hard to read. So I paid some other Indian dude, like a dot Indian dude in India,   from Fiverr   to retyped.  

Sorry.   It's okay. I retyped this whole thing out, and I had this whole,   Indian act thing,   and I started typing it out, an intro for it. And,   that just sort of spanned into the whole book. And then I had the whole book, but then I had this whole Indian act, which I ended up I don't know what we did with that. It's free on the if you go to canadian shame dotca   is it dotca? I think it's that. Yeah.   All the books are free as ebooks. So you can get them all free as ebooks. So you can get them free as on YouTube. They're free on YouTube, or you can buy them places too. Wait. Canadian Shame's free on YouTube too?  

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Yeah. Yeah. The yeah. This is the next one he did, which is,   the shocking testimony. So this is in their own words. Sent to jail if he did not send Antoine to residential school.  

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We were sort of caught in in wanting to stay home   and seeing our parents go to jail, and we thought  

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we must have thought, who's gonna look? So just to give you an example, we've got sort of narrators,   reading all the stories,   all the stories and all these chapters from their experience in the school. So Darren did a great job putting this whole video together with,   like,   the testimonies and, and my narration in the middle, like, of of the actual book.  

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No. I think it's great. And, you know, to me, the the the the   the bigger shame is that we're in a world now where what we were talking about prior   overshadows. You know? So Darren wants to share really edgy, fucking hilarious,   racist, or offensive memes on social media,   and then they wanna ban the living shit out of him for it and fucking knock him down. And and so then it overshadows the actual excellent work that you're doing,   and I'm glad that we're here able to bring some light to it because,   I mean, sometimes I follow you on Instagram and sometimes your meme might make me go, woah. Fuck, man. That one's actually that got me.  

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Yeah. That's it. It's harsh.  

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The only funny shit. It's lowbrow. Yeah. But I mean, you know, 9 times out of 10, I'm like, this is great. You know, I screen capture it and send it to my best friend in Facebook Messenger and laugh or whatever. You know? And,   but to me, it's just a shame that the world has become this place   where everyone's   anticipating   being   cared for.   And it's not that we shouldn't care for one another.   And it's not that we shouldn't be considerate of one another, but that's not reality. We all know that actual reality is that  

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Like, you know, somebody might run into your say what? It's it's bigger than that because I didn't even wanna do that shit. You know? I'm not racist. I don't you know, I you know, I got a lot of flack for the Kobe meme. Because you know? And I'm not even raised. I don't give a fuck what color. I'm an Indian. I'm a person of color. Relax. But that's not the point. The point is I you know, Graham and I didn't talk about any of this shit. We just shut the fuck up.   And, I we were kinda happy   to we we opened our mouth about Trump because we hated Hillary and Trump was, like, speaking the conspiracy language, dude, in 2015. If you're a conspiracy   dude, anti vaxx,   you know, we are already, like, in deep on all this stuff, and Trump's sitting in it on the fucking national stage. So we got caught up in that. And, you know, we'd, like, publicly were like, yeah. Trump's a shit. You know, obviously, we don't feel like that anymore, but   that cost us a lot of money at the time, a lot of support, a lot of listeners  

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back in 2015. And then, you know We weren't we weren't, like, totally for totally for it. No. We just for  

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it. We were just Neutral neutral is totally for it. That's just it. If you're neutral and you don't say negative things Yeah. That means you're his fucking guy. I get it. I mean, I I've had that argument with people where I'm like, what do you mean I'm on the right? They're like,  

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well, you didn't say anything negative yet about the right so that you're on the right. I'm like, And we just wanna change, man. I I was I was looking forward to change. I wanted to see the system fucking change. You know? That was the main thing.  

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And I don't wanna scare racist memes, but here's the thing. Or the even the I do get pretty caught up in the trans stuff because it's out of fucking control. And I got 3 daughters and I don't want them having to fucking play football against boys because that's fucking retarded. And if you're okay with that, you're fucking retarded.   So and I I say that with 3 daughters. So that is anti woman. Right? All this trans shit is anti women as far as I'm concerned. But adults can do whatever adults want. I just don't wanna play in sports against other chicks. Unless the other chicks know and they still wanna do it,  

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whatever. I don't Or just be able to opt in and out, not just  

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being a a blind wants to pretend like it's a chick, then that's fine. You know, it's still a unique with tits, and he shouldn't be playing with women in women's sports.  

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But here's the thing. For for, like, we all got told to shut the fuck up and be polite and, you know, we can't do the gay jokes anymore. We can't do   the the racist jokes anymore. And then but, you know, arguably, we were getting along better when we were doing them. We were less bigoted. It's like just on paper, it would look like to me that there was less racism and less stuff like that 15 years ago when we're   laughing and joking with each other.   And, but the thing is here, I just took the, okay, I'll just shut the fuck up and be politically correct and then all of a sudden   some of the shit that comes home and my kids are telling me that they're learning in school or they're saying   the language thing slipped so far   that I almost feel like some of us need especially if you don't have a if you're not worried about losing your job because a lot of people can't say shit because they're worried about losing their job. Luckily, I'm in a position where I don't have to worry about that shit. I could say whatever the fuck I want.  

And I think that people that   can do that   with COVID was one example. We we had to be extra over the top with it because people couldn't say shit to some people. And I think with this politically correct stuff,   we have to do the same thing because there's a bunch of people that can say shit. We gotta hold the fucking line. We never get any ground back, man. We never get any ground back. The conservatives might come back into power. Trump might come back into power, and they'll hold the line for, you know,   4 years or 8 years or 12 years or however long it takes for us to shut the fuck up.  

And then   the left will come back in and they'll take more ground. And this fucking dance of the fucking   you know, Pierre will come in. He ain't gonna give me my handguns back.   I mean, he ain't gonna get my handguns away from me either. But, you know, he keeps saying, you know, Bill c 21 blah blah blah. You think there's a fucking chance in hell when the conservatives take power here in a year or 2 that I'm gonna be able to buy handguns again? I don't fucking think so, man. Because   the conservatives freaked out in 94 when their first firearms act came in. And what fucking happened when they took a majority to a year later?   Fucking nothing. Nothing. Not one of those firearms act   was revoked. And I Well, nothing's ever peeled back. That's just that if they put something in place temporarily, it's always perfect. He will axe the tax. I think he will axe the carbon tax because that's all because even though if he doesn't do that, he's fucked. But,   I'm not getting   we're not getting to buy handguns in Canada again whether conservatives win or not. It's just,  

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you know, that's a hold the line. It's gonna buy us some time. Basically, it's gonna buy us some time, but it's not gonna change anything. I mean, during COVID, it wouldn't have mattered who was in power. If it was Trudeau or the conservative party, like, they were all all in on whatever they were doing.   So  

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Taking guns away from the U. S.   That's that's one of the things that we actually have taken back because you look when they took away AKs and ARs,   that didn't last very damn long. They're like, well, everybody's fucking got them anyways. They just all became criminals.   Right? And the same thing's happening with this,   that wrist thing   that's supposed to help support guns and their claim the The bump stop?   Yeah. The not the bump stop. No. No. No. That's like the yeah. No.   The one that's supposed to stab it's supposed to stabilize pistols so that way you can shoot it with 1 handed. And they're trying to claim it basically makes a pistol into a rifle.   And so,   the ATF   passed a law saying that that makes a pistol into a rifle,   and that's not panning out for me either. That hit that hit the,   senate, and that's getting shit on all over the place.  



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Allegedly, you can rig up an AK or an SKS strap   in just the right way so that its own recoil   kinda create its own little built in bump stock.  

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So, Darren, just question argument about all this stuff is that if it exists in reality, how is it that you're gonna mitigate   it? You know? I mean, you know, they act like meth and heroin and is illegal. It doesn't stop people from nodding out on the streets and crashing their cars and overdosing and all that. It doesn't it doesn't change anything. People would argue against the idea of any type of gun stuff.   It's like guns exist in the world and if we wanna make them fully automatic, then we just gotta get a file and have the balls to do it. Of course, now I don't have any use for a fully automatic weapon, but it's, of course, it's not hard.   It's not hard, you know. And before the Internet, you could find books and teach you how to do it all.  

So I don't know. I guess I have a hard time. I don't get caught up in the what's actually currently happening in the politics, but I do see it as some kind of dog and pony show bullshit where   they have a long term goal. It's the boil the frog method. And if they're willing to take 20 years, like you said, you know, they finally get handguns off the table,   Now they know they're not gonna put that they're not, you know, they're not giving you your queen back. They don't care how many pawns you get to the other side of the board. They're keeping it. You know? And they do that with whatever things are most important to whichever hidden misty power,   people are up there, and they have their little ideas of things they'd like to change from Mount Olympus on down. And,  

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but Who's there?  

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Well, I mean, you got to, you know  

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Who's on Mount Olympus?  

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Oh, I mean, well, what most people say in that realm that we're in the conspiracy realm, if you say who's there, then they expect you to immediately say, well, it's obviously the Jews. Right? You know, it's the Jews.   That's the thing you're supposed to say, you know, and then you get into the the 600 year debate about, you know, what's going on with these fucking Jews and how do they act That's where Elon Musk shows up,  

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Saturday Night Live with his mother   on Mother's Day a few years back. As Wario?   As Wario   in a court trial. Do you guys know Saturday Night Live? It's live from New York on Saturday night. Lorne Michaels,   all the great comedians, whoever they are. Wonder what Lorne Michaels real name is. He's so Elon shows up to host Saturday night live. His mother   announces to the world that her son is indeed on the spectrum somewhere. So just, you know, let him have the space.   You know, be patient with him. He's got autism or something. His mother says this. Musk, Elon. Okay. May, I think her name is. So then he gets into a a situation where he's dressed as Wario,   you know, the the yellow guy from the Nintendo games who likes to collect a lot of treasure. Well, it's inverted Mario.  

It's it's like the evil version of it. Anti anti Mario.   It's kind of confusing now. The whole thing is a confused mess. At the time, he's   dating   Grimes, not,   any   not in any relation to any one guest that we have tonight. It's a different sort of Grimes.   See Claire Boucher   Boucher.   She she's playing the princess role   and having to   stand in court because Mario had been murdered. The whole thing about Mario, mushrooms,   getting an extra life. But finally,   they managed to kill   Mario.   And now there's a murder trial,   and Wario has to go on trial to say if he's innocent or guilty.  

But, essentially,   the whole thing wraps up in sort of this non sequitur way   to talk about the anti   Irish   defamation league or Italian. What what was his ethnicity?  

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Italian.  

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Okay. Alright.   Italian. So now he's saying that there's a thing called   the Italian   Anti Defamation   League   and that this whole trial is a farce   because they're they're racist or something,   and it never quite made any sense.   But then he goes on weekend weekend update to play the Doge   father being the godfather of the cryptocurrency   Dogecoin   in which he admits the whole thing is a hustle.   So what is this whole thing of Dogecoin? Well, it's a hustle. Some people hustle. Some people hold the bags. Some people sell them. This whole thing is just the most bizarre   element of pop culture I've ever seen, where it's Elon Musk playing Elon Musk as Elon Musk.  

Completely absurd,   but he is basically   telling you everything. And there's a whole sketch where   he's   launching rockets into space, and was it Miley Cyrus or some character? And the other guy shows up, and they're trying to figure out, well, how does SpaceX works and where is anybody going? I think the whole thing was there was the last the last woman on Mars who's trying to reproduce or something.   So they get in the whole,   reproduction fetish that Elon seems to have, which I think he shared with Epstein   and his egg shaped penises.  

Walter is completely   absurd at this point, and there is no parody with a d if everything   is a parody   of another parody. And I all the details get confused in my own mind.   So in 2024,   when   artificial intelligence is writing all the headlines   and everything is sort of   hipster,   ironic,   funny humor. Everything's kind of a meme. Everything is just for for likes and subscribes.   And no one's really taken anything serious,   but no one's really laughing because nothing's funny anymore.   So that's kinda where we're at.  

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No. I I this is the first time I've thought in all my time with alanmarkus.com   that he was a fucking agent. Obviously, a fucking shill right here on the stream with us right now. Because here we finally get down to talking about who is they and very politely and subtle, I'm trying to bring in how we're supposed to address whether or not it's the Jews. And he goes off on some fucking bullshit tangent about Wario, Mario Brothers, Elon Musk, Grimes, Miley Cyrus, dropping every major name you could think of.  

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And what the fuck was that? It was insane, Kanye. Been paying for months that he's my controller.  

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Yeah. He's not an animal.  

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What next Kanye is gonna text him, he's gonna turn his camera off.   That 10 minute intro is on the infrasound.  

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Some infrasound psyop in the 10 minute intro, I think. Absolutely.  

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We all know that the yeah. Yeah. They do know that he makes us.  

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The 20 minute hyper sigil   attacking your mind is not definitely has nothing to do with Michael Aquino in the mind force series for sure.  

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Taquito. We we call him taquito. He's just a little little evil guy. Little little spicy evil guy. Is he Mexican?  

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He's  

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from the start. He's Scottish. He's like spot even they gave him a bear name but gave him a barony before he died over there in Scotland.  

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And then Mickey Mouse haircut.  

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You know, it's in the public domain.  

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What do you think about Elon telling those guys to fuck themselves then? All the, the all the the big corporate advertisers   trying to blackmail him.  

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Kinda reminds me when Trump fucking hooked linked me.  

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I I think it's all a show.   You know?   It's not like he's it's not like he's not, you know, just   the answering to other advertisers.   You know?   It's a good show.  

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Have you seen it? I think it's a power move. It is a show, but it's still a power move. So to me, it's kinda like when   a a wrestler decides to improvise a little bit in the ring. So he's not gonna change the outcome of the match. He's not gonna throw the match and decide he's taken a pinfall when he's not supposed to. But maybe he goes ahead and elbows Hulk Hogan hard in the face when he's not supposed to. So Hogan has to go, hey, fucker. I don't like that or whatever. I like this analogy.  

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Yeah. I like that analogy. That that's good. That's probably the best the best one I've heard, really.  

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Yeah. And it makes it because I mean, it definitely shook people up. There was definitely some yeah. Some advertisers that are like, fuck. And we we can't just pull clout because it's Elon. And, you know, they tell us he's got 50,000,000,000 or whatever. I mean, you know, someone's got 50,000,000,000,   they shake a stick at you. It means something different than even if you only have 2,000,000,000. So   I   I find myself having a hard time not enjoying   Elon Musk's antics even though I feel like I see through his bullshit and still kinda hate his guts. Like, I still fall for it and, like, it you enjoy enjoy watching his dumb posts. He, like, goes on Twitter and shit posts and comments on threads where there's nothing going on. He's not talking to people in   his caliber or category. You know, he's finding dumb memes and sharing them and shit. And   He's like Trump. Did you guys see he showed that these these these nuts meme, Mickey Mouse, these nuts meme?  



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Yeah. Yeah. Disney, these nuts. But, I mean, I don't think Trump's gonna save me from shit, but I still want him to be the president again because it's just funnier. I mean, it's just fun. Here here. No. I can get behind that. I agree. I  

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Biden is boring, dude. He's boring. He's like butt cancer. Well, if someone could grab him and pull that mask off and we could see is it Nick Cage or is it, you know, who's in is it Tom Hanks? Who's underneath that thing? I think that would be interesting at least. I feel like if they let if they let Biden talk more  

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of his own free will, then he would be way funnier.   Like, the hairy leg speech. Who doesn't like the hairy leg speech? That's some of the funniest Yeah. Or corn pop corn popper to swivel. Yeah. He would've definitely dropped some end bombs by now. Yeah. And that's  

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too. Affectionate   n bombs.  

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Exactly. He's like he's like your 90 year old grandma who doesn't react too, and it's not okay to fucking drop racist shit anymore. You know, just be  

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Yeah. Exactly.   Well, I love, you know, like or, you know, if you don't vote Democrat, you're not black.  

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Yeah. That's the that's the hardcore Biden quote right there. Nothing would make you imagine that would feel from the guy who, made the 3 strikes laws. Like, he fucking that's his only political achievement was the fucking 3 strikes laws and the mandatory minimums.  

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And calling the competitors.  

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Right? Oh, no. That was Hillary. Yeah. Hillary 2 predators.  

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Yeah. She was running around pushing that by calling young black men super you know what? We can have a more eloquent conversation later. First, we gotta get these little these little black super predators to fuck off the streets.  

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It sounds different when you say it, Ben.  

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It does. I thought, you know, Hillary said it. It sounded better. I don't know. What the fuck? She might have been onto him or something. I mean, Chicago's a fucking war zone.  

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Oh, well, I think it was Chicago's always been a war zone though. There's some secret stuff going on there.  

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You think so? Like, what?  

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Well, I mean, they don't put all the the pig slaughter and plants right next to the to the lake for no reason.   It it cover you know?   For before you kill those pigs, you can feed them a lot of stuff.  

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Terrific.  

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Obama's from there too. Right? Obama's from there. Yeah. Yeah.  

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You know, who's the Illinois? I mean yeah.  

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That's interesting. The the pig farm thing,   the, who's the guy Jim Watkins who did the 8kun   h Chan thing?  

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Graham partied at the pig farm where they killed all them hookers.   You're at the hog farm? Yeah, dude. Graham partied there.  

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I live right up the road from it. I'm, like, an hour north of that. No. This is a different one in Canada. This is the Canadian version.   Oh, yeah.   Everybody's gotta have that.  

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Everybody's got a hog farm, sell your killer. There's one there's one in every state.  

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Yeah.   So what's the deal with Canadian bacon then? What else do you do with butters? You're done with the  

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I mean, people probably taste a lot like big.   Here's a weird one for you. I mean, we seem to be, like, have the most in common with monkeys and pigs. So did, like, a monkey get cross bred with a pig or did a monkey fuck a pig? I used to think it was the cross breeding thing, but then people started sending me pictures of monkeys fucking pigs.  

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Oh, that's a thing?  

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Great videos.  

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Of course, a monkey's gonna fuck anything. And if a pig's right there, it can't get away.  

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But nature's just like that. People think nature's not weird.   Like, all week, I've been having to freaking fight my dog from fucking my cat, and it's a pitbull. Like and it's a little bitty cat. And they're both trying the cat's trying to let it happen. The cat's, like, mate with a cat.  

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His peacock trying to mate with all the chickens.  

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Yeah. Yeah. He's posted a video. I'm like, there's all all the female peacocks are clear up at the house and the males down there, like, just showing off for the chickens. Like, come on, guys. Come on. Are we talking about are we talking about furry conventions now?  

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So now, Darren, you're onto a a a line of thinking that I love,   chain project Cheney.   She talks about how she thinks that a bunch of these animals   are genetic hybrid Nephilim cross breed DNA experimentation   shit. Like, you know, maybe   pigs were just a failed attempt at humans as a slave race and same thing with kangaroos.   And then, like, supposedly leopards,   the spots on leopards are actually dog hair instead of ant cat hair. Like, the where the leopard spot is, that that's actually dog hair. Now I I didn't go confirm it. That was just something Cheney was talking about. But I do   get that you know, I like it when something greases up my brain and makes it think. Even if you post a meme that offends me, I can't say I don't like it because   I'm in my little   spaced out zone.  



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Most of a sudden, they go, what? Sometimes sometimes when I post them, I'm like, oh my god.  

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Yeah. You get that. You're dripping the groceries or your hands over the butt. You're like, I'm gonna I might lose my account,  

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but I'm pushing this button right now. See this shit one day. Like the dude smoking cracker or the dead baby. That's almost too much.  

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I have my own seed now. Too much. Almost.  

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But I think, like, we had a couple people on the show. I can't remember their names, but we had a couple people on the show talking about hybridization.   And apparently,   there's, like, a bunch of fucking evidence   of of, like, in the animal kingdom.   This guy wasn't an anti evolutionist either. He's like, no. No. It's both, man. They're both happening. He's like,   sure you got things evolving,   but if something fucks another thing, then sometimes you get viable and sometimes you get an unviable. I think, like, the liger is is an is an is an example of a nonviable one. It can't reproduce.   But he's saying that that's time they can reproduce.  



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Did you guys just watch Robert Seffers thing?   No. Robert Seffers just put out that on, genetics.   They're saying that occasionally   they can actually reproduce.   That that's not necessarily a true thing, and they are sometimes   It's just they have to reproduce   back against,   Tiger, I think. They can't reproduce back against the line. It was one way or the other. I don't remember which one he's saying. But Robert Stafford did a whole huge,   video saying that they can reproduce back one direction.  

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Ligers can? So, I mean, it's that same sort of thing, but it's just with pigs and yeah. I mean, it could be humans fucking monkeys too. I mean,   I guess. Could that that can work too.   No. Uh-huh. That'd be different. That'd be different. Age came from? That's what they told me in the eighties. Why I heard that. Yeah. I heard that in public school that that it came from a dude in Vietnam fucking a monkey.  

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So they told me.   Yeah.  

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Yeah. Well, I mean, we gotta remember too that we can't,   a, most research isn't reproducible anyway. You know? And that's kind of the dirty secret in all this, scientific research anyway. And, b,   we we're certainly not in the position to go verify anything. So really, we don't know shit about what can or can't reproduce.   You know, somebody like Ben who's definitely, been around enough experiences with certain categories might be able to say, yeah. We tried that. You know, A jackass definitely can't have sex and reproduce anything because we tried it over and over again. We saw a 100 versions, and they never did anything. But   that that doesn't mean shit as far as the bigger picture. Right? Like, we don't know. We'd have to have 100 and 100 of examples   of, monkey's fucking pigs before we could definitely cross it off the list and say, yeah. It looks like nothing happens. You know? But even then, the 10,000th monkey could be the one that spits out a man bear pig or whatever. That's like an entire genre porn of. Oh, well, it's already there.  



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You're forgetting about the element of love if these animals really love bear pig is your stepdad. A full moon   with some   romantic music playing and candles lit and some rose petals. Anything could happen.  

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That's just I believe.  

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Now wait. Who's in the picture with the the red tie and the blue shirt behind you? That's a picture of me, apparently. Oh, is it you, okay? A a listener,  

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a listener painted that and sent it in. So Oh, it's a painting. Cool. Oh, it's a painting.  

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I can see it a little bit better now. Yeah. Okay.   It is a show I thought maybe it was Lyndon LaRouche.  

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Well, it could be it's hard to tell who it is sometimes, but he did a good job. I don't know if Jacques might be a man overboard now, but he's good. He's a good dude.   So I think you could, like, take a pig card almost and put it in a human. Right? If you want organs, they take them from a pig. What the fuck is that? Grow them. Yeah. What?   You can't do that with anything else than a fucking pig. And pigs taste like human and humans taste like pig,   allegedly.  

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I always thought that was the it was a genetically modified,   human   that was okay to eat.   You know? You can't be eating humans all the time. So genetically modify a human into a bad idea. They're like, this is these humans are delicious.  

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Well, they call they call cannibalism. They call it what do they call it? A long pork, human? Well, not only that. You don't eat pork. I don't think Muslims do either. Right? Yeah. Yep. That's correct.  

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Maybe they know. That's they are the they. They, they, they. It's them and they know that the pigs are fucking human eye. Hey, now I like this idea of they being the Jews and the Muslims. I think we could go with this. This is a pretty good day. So I shouldn't be eating Canadian bacon then, Is that what you're saying? It's okay. Who cares? I would eat most of what you eat, Mark. If the shit goes down, I'm gonna eat vegans. I'm gonna start with vegans.   Like, grass fed pork.   Long pork. So  

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with the homunculus idea, that is interesting   because,   in a old occult,   a lot of homunculi   were made in order to basically   absorb   the ill effects of things that they were doing. Like or if you had a a   disagreement with another magician,   The homunculi was supposed to be made with some of your DNA in there so that way, any magical attacks could read that as you.   So that's super interesting,   you know, and then you look historically   where, like,   with Jesus, he put the demons in the pigs, almost like, you know, they're little so that isn't a whole interesting thought process.  

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I'm telling you, there's something to it.   I think it's all fake, so all   all bets are off. There's no All the meat is fake.   The more that I tried the the more that I tried to prove that there was no intelligent design behind this mother fucker, the more convinced. I mean, I had   10 years or whatever we are now, 12 years into doing the podcast and interviewing people. I came into this shit being an atheist. He was like   a hardcore atheist, and now I'm like, there's no way. There's no way it's atheist. I don't know who the gods are, if it's some nerd   with a simulation in some laboratory or if it's   or what the fuck is going on? But there's all the way down. There's yeah. I don't know what it is, dude, but it reeks of intelligent design in every fucking angle. Every corner you go into   ends at, like, well, fucking misses it by chance.  



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I don't think David Ick knows either,   but he's got some ideas about it.  

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Oh, did I share the David Ick debunked? I yeah. I I found a 2 and a half hour documentary by a guy, Chris White. David Ick debunked it. It's pretty good.  

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It's not even really a a debunking. It's more of an explanation of where he got his ideas, which That's true. May be,   to some people's mind, a way to debunk him.   But to say, you know, who is Alice Bailey   and who were the ascended masters and David Ike's early works were channeled to him. I don't think he's talked about that recently about his   channel.  

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Getting some some psychic,   infos.  

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Downloads in the bathtub.  

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Yeah. See, that means something completely different for me.  

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What is Alice Bailey? What does Alice Bailey have to do with Ike?  

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So I think that Ike was talking with some ascended masters or or something. He was really into a lot of this  

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new age A lot of his work parallels her work. And in his older books, it's pretty much, plain to see, like, the 7 rays and some of the stuff that, she was saying. And so then as time progresses,   he   puts more and more space between some of his older work and does not. Now he never directly said, hey. I got this from Alice Bailey and Theosophy and stuff like that. But he's using almost identical language and then he kinda graduates away from it And then so there becomes more layers   where you could still trace it back and say, hey. I think this came from that, but he kinda pads it up a little bit more  

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in the Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah. It's fascinating. Did you guys think do you guys think theosophy gets painted with a with a bad brush because of Alice Bailey?  

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I'd say more often it gets painted with a bad brush because, some of the things that Blavatsky herself did of,   being known to be somewhat of a huckster and, you know,   taking bribes to to put on, seances that go a particular way and that kind of stuff. You know? I mean, she kinda had a reputation for some of that stuff. So I would say usually that's the stronger critique. But,   Bailey and, what's his name?   Ledbetter definitely didn't,   didn't do favors to the whole thing. Was that Alice Bailey into globalism  

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and sort of one of the one thing is the new world stuff. Yeah. Well, she split off, but she split off from philosophy and then Right. And then sort of went into the u I guess, the UN really and the the spiritual influence in the in the UN. But but I feel like that's over being ahead of the Lucius Trust Yeah. At that point.  

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Does David Ike still talk to Rakorski, this entity under the title of Rakorski,   who might be the same Rakorski   said to be the father of Jesus' father?   It all gets very, very confusing.   I just haven't heard David and I talk much about this lately. So I don't know if he's still   still, okay with these ideas or if that was just his way into   this market, doing some market research,   figuring out what books are gonna sell best,   and then maybe he moved away from that. But in recent days, his new book, I think, the dream, he still cites Credo and   the Sirius stuff.  

That's s I r u s, like the star system Sirius.   He's doubling down on reptilian   ideas as well, but I haven't heard him talk about Rakorski lately. So, David Ike, what's what's Rakorski been saying to you lately, or are you guys on good good terms, still on speaking terms? Is he still helping you ghost write some books?   I don't know.  

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Yeah. It's interesting.  

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About both and them, though, that's she didn't get a bad rap.   The thing that I don't understand is,   but   Blavatsky's like these kids today that are the rich kids that run around getting,   guru fucking certificates in a weekend, and then they get touted as a guru. That's all she was is that person back then.   Like,   completely   completely   misinterpreted,   mis missed,  

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Misquoted?  

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Yeah. She everything that she was talking about, like, if you look at the people of India, not the the white sectors,   but the other people, like, no. She doesn't have any idea what she's talking about.   Like but, you know, they they list her as   a   a expert among the Celts, amongst, you know, the pagans, amongst everything else. And she was just one of them rich kids that got the weekend,  

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little weekend certificates. She was Yeah. Well, she put she put a little bit more work into it than that in writing 5 tomes. I mean, plus a bunch of other books. I mean, those those books aren't,   like Isis unveiled and and the secret doctrine aren't aren't,   small simple books. I mean, you know, even if it's fake, it would be  

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decades of work. And you've read them, and there's proof of you having read them because it's your voice reading them?  

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True.  

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True. Well, I mean, there's a I found, I never read the book, but I found an hour long, thing by Rene Guinon.   I think he's a French philosopher and he he was deep into theosophy for a little while and then he went against it all and decided to   explain to people why he   no longer followed it and what his critique of it all was.   So, I mean, I found that to be fascinating. There are people that accuse her of being a plagiarist and, you know, claim that they can cross reference things and say, oh, she lifted this from here and that from there. But I've I take everything with a grain of salt. And so, I mean, if I'm gonna, you know doesn't mean I won't go listen to ISIS unveiled and maybe even get something good from it, but, you know Yeah. Oh, yeah. Me too. I take it all with a grain of salt too. I just wanted to ask I wanted to know because I've  

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you know, we've been talking about kind of this new age pushback lately, and I have a hard time with it, but I also kind of agree with a lot of it. I'm just sort of, you know, trying to take it all in myself. You know?   Yeah. I find it quite fascinating because there's all these splits in in those esoteric sort of studies, you know, and then everybody gets now everybody's a psyop. Right? Steiner, Manley p Hall, Bobatsky. I mean, it's like none of these, like,   real real,   real, you know, super popular   talented people, you would think. They're they're just, like, there's just people pushing back against everything these days. So Well well, Hall wrote secret teachings of all ages supposedly when he was 19.  



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And, I mean, you know,   that tome is fucking is ginormous.   It's just ginormous. And this is, information that a 19 year old or   had in his head.   Like, this thing's huge.   Now you just got done saying that Blavatsky, her work took decades to do. This was done by a 19 year old.   You understand that that's part of where some of the problems are coming in. What does a 19 year old really know or understand?  

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Yeah. Yeah.  

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Yeah. You know?   So that's that's where part of the problem with this comes in is Are you sure that was published when he was 19?  

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I think it was, I thought that was happening I thought that was happening after his, all seeing eye,   magazines and all that in the in the late, mid twenties, late twenties. I don't know. It says 27 on the Google  

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results.  

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Yeah. Because he was it it it seemed like he was years putting that together while he was working on it during the, publishing his his,   monthly   magazine.   But I mean, either way, like, I feel like there is something legit to these downloads. I mean, I mean, people are doing it nowadays. They've done it for a long time. They get this inspiration. They get this sort of automatic writing. So,   you know, I I don't know. I mean, I almost take that.   I I know it's stupid to say this, but I almost feel like that's more credible in some ways to me than   than these, modern   scientific writings and stuff that just leave out a bunch of crap anyways or, like, we we listened. We also did,   Charles Fort's books, and his his view on the whole thing is fascinating too, you know, on reality and phenomena and and how how things are always changing and in flux and how it all depends on your reality, all depends on the age we're living in because of the denial and the scientific, institutions and how that changes over time. It's it's pretty fascinating. So  

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sort of cryptids and paranormal and ghost hauntings?  

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Is that kind of the founding of it? Not ghosts, but I would say more like UFOs ancient mysteries,   the media slash academia slash scientific community is is sort of treating it the same way. Right? Treating all this stuff in the same way, ignoring it, ridiculing it,   trying to debunk it. So kinda gets lumped in with everything. And then, of course, come come around to 2016 and then 2020 with COVID and all that. And then now we're bigots.  

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Now we're now we're far right bigots because, you know Far right. There's no I used to call gram alt right gram as a joke. And now buy any fucking buddy's account. We're   alright. And   we haven't really changed. I mean, I got a little crazier,   probably. I mean, how do you not get preppy and anti government when when you're going living through COVID? I mean, it's like,   holy fuck, man. Get more guns, get more bullets, get more food, start cannon shit, get a gun, get out of the city because   because at the beginning, it was like, oh, yeah. This is like the trial run. This is a trial run for what they're gonna do later. And then it's like, oh, shit.   They're just fucking going for it, man. They're just gonna   So, you know,  

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I don't know where I was going to at. It was pretty weird here, guys, because, like, they're they're like Oh, no. Yeah. Different in Canada for sure. They they were we were in the media and hearing guys like you talk about it. So we can't we don't have a reference to what you guys actually experienced, but it was looking pretty shitty, pretty grim, Graham.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We were before right before the convoy, we were like, oh my god. Like, this is getting crazy. Like, the neighbors you felt like people were just about to start turning you in or telling on each other because of whatever, mask, wear, or whatever. Lines. Yeah. There's a rat lines existed so that they could. There is anonymous fucking rat lines put up in  

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in Alberta. So do snitches no longer get stitches   in Canada?  

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No. They get, they get made they get made get a $100.  

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No. They still get stitches. It's a little gold stitch on their collar and then a pat on the head. Exactly. You know? Honorary military positions.   Well, I mean, did that's just it. We study this stuff for years and say problem reaction solution. And then when it comes out   that it's happening, it's almost impossible not to give them the reaction. You know? That's Exactly. Exactly. A lunatic with actual cameras in the woods by my house. I mean, that's fucking where I've degraded to over My mom said the same thing, man, that she, you know, my mom was kind of a lefty hippie and she's like, you know, the left went so far away that now she's found her self on the right.   You know, I mean, and people do usually become conservative when they get older somewhat, but she's like, what the hell happened to, you know, she said, I really didn't change that much, you know, and I would agree with her. It's not like she became   radicalized or she didn't change at all. It was still my same old mom, but now  

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the whole sphere is still the same old one. Yeah. Yeah. All of us radicalized. I mean, I'm an Indian, so the government's been fucking me all us over for a 150 years. It's like   some of us are bound to radicalize   just on that natural shift because Yeah. There is a natural thing where you   when you're a kid, you're an idiot, so you're like a super   socialist, leftist. You know? Like, yeah. Fucking stop the wars, free everything, man, you know? Give me some free money. And then you have kids and you're like, fuck, no, you can't have any more of my money.   And you know, and you're like,   in my case, you have kids and I have to start caring about   like trans shit. Otherwise, I wouldn't even really have to give a fuck, You know? I'm older. I moved past. I'm married. I don't give a fuck what you guys wanna do.  

But I got a lot of kids, so it's like, okay. Now I gotta fucking be involved in that. So That was the last time YouTube dinged us real hard. We were sharing medical information,  

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not even misinformation.   They weren't even debating. It was just medical information.  

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Sharing medical information, we're laughing about the attorney general referring to vaginas as bonus holes.  

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We showed I guess I missed that one too. We showed the web page  

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that included   the vocabulary   list and the definitions of each word. And under b category, it says bonus whole, and it provided it as an option for the language. And we were just saying this is where we can find the definition. This is the source. We were citing   our source. Earlier, I was gonna ask, what is the crime for not having a bibliography   to a book? What is the crime for not citing your sources?   Is there any?  

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No.   I don't think so.   We had glory holes up here.  

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Hallelujah holes.  

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The the no. And this was the one this is from the provincial health, like, the highest done in the provincial health minister telling you to use glory holes during COVID. The federal. Oh, jeez. How is that how is that  

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more  

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Well, you know, you got a barrier between you. So, like, just whatever you do, just get a barrier between you. Just keep the rest of your story.  

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Random junk is poking through a random which glory holes   historically have never existed in good or clean places.  

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Okay. Did did all the sperm banks become glory holes too?  

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Well, there's usually, like, some Windex there you spray around it and wipe it with the paper towels, you know. Usually. If you're going to spray alcohol down there, what if the you know, what they're melting? You don't know what's going on on the other side. Well, that would be a good tactic to spray the alcohol through the hole. And if they go, ouch, maybe don't put your stuff back through there, you know. I got you got open stores.  

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Dental dam.  

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Dental dam. Oh, man. I forgot about the dental dam craze.  

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Yeah. They should have talked about that. I used the dental dam jam. Do you have one?  

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No. I don't have any.   They probably take for a whole. Yes. Dental dams all the way.  

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Do they have latex free dental dams?  

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I don't know. Have to. They have to. You don't think they've got, you. You know, what about the old sheepskin dental dam? Do they got a sheepskin  

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for the neck? You mean sheep intestine dental dam?   That's a lot more expensive right here.  

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Those are expensive. A lot of fucking shit.   Tractions.  

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I'm getting into old testament plagues now.  

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We're blaming this on Sean's people. So what's the on they?   Old testament plagues.  

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What's the what's the craziest,   supernatural, metaphysical, magical phenomenon you guys just say you've experienced? Because I know that you've,   not just observed, but participated in some,   you know, what some people might call chaos magic or practical or ritual magic. And so   I'm curious to hear what's the what's the most wackadoo story off the top of your guys' head?  

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Well, I can't. The one that I that is that answers that question, I can't talk about it because Okay. When I when I do, it, it happens.  

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No. That's yeah. I definitely don't want you to do that. I'm not asking you to talk to anybody to do it.   Do.   No. Yeah. I I mean, I understand that's real. There are certain things that if, if you bring them back into the sphere of consciousness,   then you're inviting the the Are you telling me negative  

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thing, and I definitely didn't mean that. Obviously No. No. No. I know. But that that's how that's how, like, real it is. Right? Yeah. That's scary. Yeah.  

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I didn't hear what Morrison said there, though. I said, you're telling us you can't say Beetlejuice?  

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Something like that. It's something like that. Bloody Mary, bloody Mary, bloody Mary. Oh, shit.  

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I don't really have one. I would say people should just read,   read some books like Think and Grow Rich and Outwitting the Devil and   some of that stuff, and   and that stuff's a lot   a lot realer than you think if you can get your head around it properly.  

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Do it right. We gotta practice it. That's why I would add that because I might have another  

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times. You know? You might have to really   read it a bunch of times to get your head through. Well, that's that's the kind of magic   magic I'm interested in.   I've had some pretty pretty good.   Yeah. Darren's been been good at that sort of new thought manifestation type stuff just by just by their power of his will. Yeah. Yeah. There it is. Yeah. I have that one too. That's another great one. Yeah. Yeah. I take that shit super seriously. I even really only listen to music. I mean, I do live in a country western.   But, I try to only listen to music that wants the best for me, and I don't watch, you know,   downer TV. I don't really watch any TV at all. But,   if you can keep your head in the right place, you can and you're then you can, like, zoom out far enough. You can   you can get anything you want.  

You know? You still you still be pissed off half the time and have shitty days, but,   you know, you just   you gotta look back one day and be like, holy fuck, man. I got everything I wanted really, you know, just by fucking putting my head down.   That's the big part, all these fucking new takes on Napoleon Hill stuff. Because Napoleon Hill stuff is probably takes on older stuff. That's as far back as I've taken it.   But, all the new shit rips them off. You know? That's like all the new stuff is a spin off of Think and Grow Rich. And they all forget the part of fucking busting your ass, man. So when people are like, you're lucky this. You're lucky that. It's like, yeah, dude.   Yeah. Fucking ask my wife how much I fucking work. I work fucking 16 hours a day   on average   for a long time. And then when I'm 50, I'll be like, Hey,   And people will be like, ah, you're lucky again. I'll be like, no, man. I just fucking worked   my fucking ass off at the same time   as doing all the new thoughts stuff in the background. And,   I mean, it becomes a hard thing where it's hard to even know if it's if it's the chicken or the egg. You know? What comes first? Do you fake it till you make it? Or you start to make it I would say that's the magic. Right? It's that they a little bit so you can fake it a little bit better.  

You start to see it work a little bit, so then you're like They give you all this affirmative language.   Because in the beginning, you don't even really know what you're fucking talking about. You think you're talking about, but you're not. You're not. You're still bitching about your bills or stressing about your bills, and you can't even have any of that in there. You can't. You just You just gotta let it go. I'm not telling you not to worry about your bills, but that can't be part of your process.   It just can't. Your all of your fucking money thought and   see all that shit   at the same time as you're busting your ass has to be on abundance. It has to be all the time on   I got this. I got this. Do you do you remember, Darren, what they said to you? Forward   just on that principle. I mean, when I moved in not this house, but my last house.  

When I moved into that place, I didn't know how I was gonna fucking afford it. That was, like that's when it really started to click in is because I was sick of living in a fucking basement apartment.   And I was like, I need to fuck because I'm, you know, divorce, playing   alimony and all that shit. And it's like, well,   I wanted to get into this house. And I'm like, okay. What can I cut out what can I cut out to have enough money to pay this? You know, it's an extra $700   a month in rent or whatever it was. Fucking ain't right, man. And then right at that moment   is when I was just like, no. No. No. No. No. I just gotta fucking come up with, here's how I gotta think about this problem is how can I make another $700   a month? Yep. And then that was really the fucking time when it really clicked into me is that's how you gotta go on all that thoughts. You can't ever be at like, oh, fuck. How am I gonna get this money? You gotta just have that. I just gotta come up with this money. That's no problem. $700, that's fucking nothing. And I can tell you that I've, like, played that fucking forward, dude. I just need another fucking   dude, I really want this new fucking truck. It's the fucking nicest one they make. I just need them to come up with another   $1500   a month, and I could afford that payment. You know? And   you can just sort of do it like that. And it makes me wonder. You know, I'm just still playing at the the fucking shallow end of the pool, man. There's some people that are doing this   at a much higher level, and I think need 2 more 1,000,000,000.  

Yeah. It's like, I just can't get my head there. But, you know, some people can, and I really think that's how the whole fucking thing works.  

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But back here how,  

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I was gonna say about Napoleon Hill. Did you see how that he ended up with that title for the book?   He didn't have a title for, for Thinkin' Grow Rich   and,   his publisher threatened to publish it,   as   use your noodle to get the caboodle.   Because he couldn't he didn't give he wouldn't give him a title because he's like, I'm thinking, you know, I'm trying to get it right because he wants it to be perfect or whatever. But I think it was you that I interrupted, Graham. Go ahead. I just thought that No. No. No. No. No. It's okay. I just I wanna get a chance to get my, I mean, just to get back to your question about sort of the paranormal type stuff, like, not about the  

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sort of the biggest, darkest type thing, but, I mean, I I did, you know, I had a a UFO sighting and a a Kundalini experience and some Reiki, like, some physical Reiki sort of experiences,   that kind of sort of new age stuff.   And also, you know, a ghost encounter when I was younger and,   and then this this and then this this when I first tried this chaos magic, like, it changed it shifted my life a 180 degrees, like, within a week. So and I and I've I've met other people too that,   that that's, you know, that's made, like, specific   changes   to their life. But I I don't know if I I have a bit of a different take on it now. I'm a little bit leery about about,   practicing anything at this point like like that, reaching out too too far to anything.  



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So it's common too. Yeah. That you you try a little few things. You find out it definitely works. Maybe you have some I had a bad not a terrible experience, but something that maybe do the same thing. Like, well, I don't know if I need to draw any more sigils on a piece of paper or whatever. You know? I mean any of that shit. I just I just I just strictly go on attitude.  

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And like, dude, I'm bitchy, dude. I'd be bitchy half the time, but,   I still just know in my head that everything's gonna be alright and, where I'm headed. I just know where I'm headed. That's really what it boils down to   is know where the fuck you're headed. If you don't know   you don't have a definitive  

[02:00:51] Unknown:

goal Desire, goal. Yeah. Yeah. That's why they focus on intention so much, and it it becomes woo woo, but intention is actually very plain. You want. You need to know exactly what you want, or you ain't getting it.  

[02:01:03] Unknown:

And you can't even start to get towards getting it unless you know exactly   what the fuck you want. Once you start to know exactly what you are   I mean, you can't just be not this or better than this. It has to be very,   very fucking precise. And then you can start to   put shit together, and you'll start small and it'll work out, and then you'll get excited. But,   start now because you're not getting any younger.   I could say that if I knew what I know now, a fucking 20, dude. I see that meme going around where it's like, would you take 10,000,000   or knowing everything you know now   at   15 or something like that, Right? And it's like, dude, if I knew everything I knew now at fucking 20,   you fucking   doing a lot better than I am now. And I'm not doing too bad, but most people say, I'm not doing great. I mean, don't get me wrong. I am not fucking rich. I just,   I have a day job that I've worked at for 20 years that I've managed to do well at   and   get into upper management. And I bust my ass with all this stuff with Graham. You know? I I have 6 jobs,   and it's enough that I don't have stress out about buying groceries. I still have to stress out about buying other stuff. You know?  

I have you know what it is. I have just enough that I don't have to stress about my bills, though. I don't think about, fuck, the rent's due.   Oh, fuck. That bill is coming up. You know, I'm not I got fucking I don't have 1,000. I got, you know, a few grand stashed away,   but I've never I've never you know, that's really when Rogan says it. That is really I don't know if it gets better from here because I never had more. Maybe when I have 10,000,000, I'll be like, no. Fucking   it's better to have 10,000,000. But he always says you just once you get to that point that you're not stressing about your bills, everything can sort of really start to change because that's what really fucking changes the shit is when  

[02:02:55] Unknown:

that's what's impossible to get out of. Well, it gets you out of survival mode. To me, that's the thing is that, like, you can you can actually get out of survival mode even if you've got outstanding bills.   You know? It's a it's a mind situation more than it is or because the truth is everything is accommodated to everyone at all times   for the most part. Now I mean, there are very rare tragic situations where you die or you or something goes so badly that it affects you for the rest your life. But most of the time if you're behind on your rent,   somehow it fucking comes up, you know? Even if you get evicted, you you could call that a come up. Sometimes there's lots of times where I've seen people get evicted and their life fucking improves   by huge folds because they had to give up whatever trying to hold that shitty spot down was.  

And now even though they had to get rid of a bunch of stuff and pack it all in a hurry and maybe lose some stuff or whatever, then   the breath of fresh air that comes from whatever happened next is actually the same level up that you were describing. You know? S p, is that part of the magic  

[02:03:56] Unknown:

with your bills? Call them outstanding.  

[02:03:58] Unknown:

Beautiful. Extraordinary. This is a wonderful bill. I love the paper it's printed on. Love everything about it. I love the person who sent it to me. I love the person who licked that envelope. If you really wanna challenge yourself, send blessings to your bill to the people you owe money to. Tell them you love them. Tell them you appreciate them in your heart. Say I'm sending this bill. I've owed you this money. I'm sorry I'm late. Here it is. You know? That's that's a challenge man. To be affirmative in the negative areas.  

[02:04:22] Unknown:

You know. Yeah. If your enemy in life is a bill collector or a bill or a student loan that you want Bernie Sanders to forgive you for having,   what What what are you doing with your life if you're defined by your negative balance?   The US government is how many 1,000,000,000,000 of dollars in debt? Is debt really the worst thing that's happening in your life?  

[02:04:44] Unknown:

Well, not only that. It's like, how I like to do it now is if I get blindsided by a weird bill and I'm just like motherfucker.   And I'll just be like, man, imagine if you would have got that 10 years ago. That would've just ruined your fucking life. And I'm not talking about a lot of money, man. I'm talking about, like, the other day, I did it with an $800 bill. It was $800 for   I forget what. But it was a surprise, you know, not like one of your regular bills. It's like, surprise, motherfucker. US $800. And it's like, god damn it.   And I'm kinda stressing about it, but it's like, well,   should at least I can just pay it. You know? At least, like, if I was that honestly, what I thought is I was like,   fuck 10 years ago, man. This sort of ruined, like, fucking 3 months of my fucking life. And now I can just,   you know,   And that's how I kinda get my head out of   that thing now, but it's kinda that I like that. You you you'll figure it the fuck out, man. We talked we were lucky enough to talk to John McAfee a couple times   Oh, awesome.  

Before he passed away. And, the the main thing he said,   the main takeaway I had from his interviews was   he was just like, just fucking   chase your jeans. Quit your job. He's like, you'll figure it out, man. He's like, you'll you'll always figure it out. Like, you if people didn't figure it out, there'd be way more fucking homeless people. You know? It's not like, ah, fuck. I quit my job to try podcasting, and now I'm fucking homeless.   You know? He's like, you'll go get another job or you'll this or you'll that. Just like,   you know, it's just like you'll figure it out. You'll always fucking figure it out. Like, the rent's a good example. You know? Whatever you're fucking stressing about right now, in, like, 2 months, you're just gonna be like, oh, yeah. That was fucking nothing.  

And that meant you might have some real shit coming up that you can apply that to. That is not  

[02:06:31] Unknown:

a problem. There's always exceptions for something really rings your bell.  

[02:06:35] Unknown:

But fucking 9 times out of 10, that probably applies to your situation. You could probably just fucking you're gonna figure it out. Even if it doesn't seem like you're gonna figure it out right now, you probably will. And if you start thinking about it like that, you'll probably figure it out faster.   Well, it gets just left me hanging.  

[02:06:52] Unknown:

Well, it gets I think it scales up too.   I mean, once you have more more money, more wealth, more problems come at you, it's still the the same amount of   work that you put into it. It's the same amount of effort,   and you can succeed and   flow through it.   You know, it's not a lot more to get through   $1,000,000 problems as it is $100 problems. But It's actually less.  

[02:07:18] Unknown:

Yeah.   Because you're not in survival mode. Like like,   the other fellow was saying, you're not freaking out. You're just like, you know Not catastrophizing   everything. That's kinda like the way I sort of look at things sometimes too is like fucking 20 years ago is like $50 was a problem. And then it's like,   you know, 10 years ago, $500   was a problem. And now, you know, if I had to come up with $10 tomorrow, I'd be fucking stressing out a little bit. But I could probably do it. You know? I'd have to, like,   really overextend myself or figure something out. Scratch your head, call some people, whatever you guys do. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Bucks would be the same the same jump for you back then. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. So you can kinda just go like, and I think I'm still like I say, I still think,   you know, I'm playing in the shallow end of the pool. I'm still fighting off a bunch of demons of my own. That other people could be better at me when they're   younger   and really fucking do well. Don't let them convince you that you're fucking useless or powerless. Don't be useless. I mean, most young people are fucking useless.  

I run a company with, like,   you know, a bunch of welders and shit and,   trying to find people in their twenties that aren't fucking idiots.  

[02:08:31] Unknown:

So actually, they had a whole family feel like,  

[02:08:34] Unknown:

come on. The dude was in his But, no, dude, dude, it's different because you know, in your twenties. When I was 20, we were fucking switched on. You could throw a bunch of 20 year olds and a fucking 26 year old on-site. And I do have a couple late 20 guys that   that are pretty switched on, and they can run a crew. But they still can't do the shit that like, when we were in our twenties, man.   When I was 24, dude, you dropped me on a site with a fucking crane and fucking 3 dudes, and I'll build a fucking warehouse in a week. You just keep dropping the fucking steel off. And now the amount of people and I'm not even that great. You know, I wasn't even that great. I was like what I'm saying. Like, the dude and I won't tell you who   they're gone. There's, like, this this, like, the I don't know what happened, but I, like, I wasn't special. It wasn't just me. It was, like,   say, I would call it 5 out of 10   of the dudes my age had it in to fucking go run a crew and fucking build a warehouse or do their carpentry or whatever   fill in the blank for whatever   profession they were doing. But 5 out of 10 of them at 25 could go fucking do it because they wanted to.  

Now it's like 1 out of 10, man. They're like half autistic. It's fucked up, dude. Some of them are fully autistic.  

[02:09:54] Unknown:

And do you think that somehow people are being born without will? Like, you see this in in, like, when I was young,   you you saw dudes,   like, a little dude could stand in a fight and it didn't matter. You saw that the only thing that mattered was Will, and it didn't matter how big a dude was as long as he had that. He was he was willing to stay in the fight. I think they're all autistic, dude, straight up. I think the fucking autism has taken over. And I I think I could tell you why they're all autistic. I won't say it on your program because it's just a strike. You know? It's low hanging fruit. Everybody in their We're 2 hours into it, man. They quit listening pregame. Well, I think everybody knows anyway. I mean, it's not a rocket scientist to figure it out, though. For the last 30 minutes, they've been jacking us up.  

[02:10:40] Unknown:

They've been jacking us up on shots in social media, and I think the fucking I think that's what the transgenders   from.   All of it is because everyone's a little bit autistic. We don't even really know what it is, but we're fucking up their brains. Mhmm. Dude, I have some dudes that can   I shouldn't actually, I shouldn't knock as specific in case people are listening? But I have some dudes that grind real like a motherfucker, dude. Like, it's like it's his job. Like, I was asking Like a Tony Hawk Pro Skater reference? Yeah. If he's grinding shit, but anything else, and I'm like, fuck out.   He's driving a car. Don't be in front of him. You know? Like  

[02:11:15] Unknown:

yeah.   It's it's  

[02:11:17] Unknown:

There there is a bit of the learned helplessness   where people are putting hashtag mental health awareness,   and they're identifying   with   the quality or the symptoms that debilitate them the most,   self diagnosing with handicaps and other things,   and then sort of shirking responsibility to say, well, I'm not capable of doing anything.   I can't do anything about anything. This is this is how I was born. I blame my parents, blame the boomers, blaming everybody else,   but that doesn't get anyone anywhere. No one's gonna do the work   for you   clearly.  



[02:11:56] Unknown:

So just depending on something playing a role, I would say, though, because, like,   I don't know. It's I definitely think there's a lot of nurture going on.   Because my kids are young, and they're out fucking wrangling horses and riding them. You know? That's what they were doing today. So   and then other kids are fucking retarded. So it's like, I don't know. You know, they don't have shots either. So,   there's there's that taken out as well, but there's a bunch of kids their age that are just to switch on that do have those shots. So I think there's   that complete lack of of   like, these kids don't get any free range time anymore. Like, there's nothing. There's fucking   it's, like, weird to let your kid go to the store by himself when he's 10 or 11. And it's, like, think about what you were doing when you were 10, man. Like, I I don't know what any of you guys. I just met every one of you today. But I can guarantee you, if I asked you what you were doing by yourself when you were 10 years old, it's fucking crazy. It would sound crazy to let and dude, I even catch myself doing this  

[02:12:58] Unknown:

where I'm like I have to be like where my kids are like, I wanna go do this and I'm like, oh, fuck that. And I'm like I was I was learning the difference between cabbages and lettuces at the grocery store. I had to get a shopping list. I wanted to have tacos tonight. Well, I want lettuce. Well, I gotta go run to the grocery store and figure out, well, that's   cabbage, that's a rutabaga identifying produce,   figuring things out, making mistakes, embarrassing myself, and then learning from that.  

[02:13:21] Unknown:

And we had guns, most of us. Right? Like, a 20 t or a pellet gun with our sisters coming around with those. For nothing.   In the woods. I mean, I just, like so now I try and really just   push my kids out and get them you know, let them   let them go fall off a horse, you know, touch wood, hopefully. I mean, she did fall off a horse the other day.   She didn't get hurt luckily, but, you know, that's the kind of stuff that's really gonna make them   better adults than than being stuck in the house in this weird.   We're domesticated   enough. I don't know. I really think that's a huge part of it, though, is the lack of   of, like, what we all did we're doing when we were kids. You know? Like, it's funny because I don't know how old you guys are. But when I talk to other people that are 40, I'm talking about, well, you know, we were playing this game called kick the cans. Like, hide and go so you could just run through the fucking neighbor's yards, and nobody really gave a fuck. And it's like, I don't even know how I would react if I seen a bunch of kids come running through my yard these days. You know what I mean? So I'm, like,   very much trying to not be part of the problem.  



[02:14:25] Unknown:

Yeah. It's tactile reality.   Kids today, they're in their heads   and their fingers, and that's it.   So it's not even a a you're not even a real person.   You're just a digital footprint   is all.   And that's sad.   It's really sad.  

[02:14:44] Unknown:

Yeah. You don't wanna be that. You just try and really not. And it's hard because, like,   dude, I make half half my living on the Internet. So we're doing audiobooks, and I'm fucking studying YouTube algorithms. And, you know, it's very easy to get trapped in this thing where you're just listening to audio all fucking day. You just said no peace and quiet, and you're just like,   you know, I have to my wife has to slap me out of it sometimes because I'm just like, I turned into a robot. You should pull the headphones off your ears. Or it's just like I got all this shit to do, and it's like   you know? So especially I feel like when with guys like us, so you're podcasting, you're just online all the time, you gotta promote. You gotta do   Yeah. You gotta do this. You gotta do that. It can be hard to  

[02:15:30] Unknown:

pull out. Is that where you're going to the value for value model and you encourage the listeners to help you with the marketing, the sharing?  

[02:15:38] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, I mean, honestly, we run we run them all. So we do run on the Grand America Show. We run that value for value. We still do. We always have.   But, then we do and we get some shit from some people because we are our our thought is that shows value for value. There's no ads in it. There never will be. It's all there. It's all free. All available.   And, you know, we we never did great at that. We did alright. Built a great community. Made a couple of bucks.   Not enough to pay like, not enough to ever consider quitting your job or anything, though.   And then,   you know, it's kinda right around the same time that I moved into that house that I was talking about before this house. Now I'm in the fucking   prairies in the bush. I got I'm in the woods in the prairies. It's like the   perfect place you could be in my opinion.  

But, when I moved to another house and I didn't have the money, that's when Graham and I were like, okay. Well, what do we wanna do? It's time to, like, start thinking about what the fuck we wanna do because I just moved into a house that I can't afford, and the rent's gonna be due in another month.   So,   that's kinda when we started Outlawed. So we started doing the the that model where it's like, okay. We'll give you the first hour free because we knew our buddy Greg at THC and our buddies over at mysterious universe that were doing   quite well doing this   model.  

And, you know, we decided we're too far in, and we had talked too much shit on Grim America to consider doing it with that show.   So we started the new show, the Outlawed.   We did the membership thing, and that helped, you know, between those 2. We were   close enough that,   started thinking about quitting the job, so we were kinda running the membership model and the value for value model. And then then we got into sales. That's really what   you know? So we sell stuff. We sell audiobooks, a 100 different audiobooks,   books. I wrote I wrote books to try and sell those, and,   so we do that sales model. And then now we've got into the YouTube thing with the running ads. So it's basically, like   you know, when you do it at on the level we're trying to do it at, we're trying to run it like a like a station. You know? It's like it's not just some slapped together shit from the get go.  

We've got a plan with this thing because, you know,   we know other audiobook   things on YouTube that are that are making a 100 or $200,000   a year   and with arguably less less,   worse content than we've got. So and we've been pleasantly surprised. I mean, we just finally got to the point where we're able to start buying it. $200 fucking $1,000  

[02:18:20] Unknown:

for reading books and recording it?  

[02:18:23] Unknown:

Well, dude, when we got shut down by Amazon,   we were we were making probably I think the last year, we were we made 90 5.   Jesus Christ. We were only getting 40% of the cut. I mean, that's with a $100 per sale.   Mhmm. But, I mean, like so then we got kicked out of Amazon. We lost all that money. You know? It's been a struggle ever since then. That just happened in August. I mean, luckily, I still work full time. Like, I still have a I'm the boss at a a company. So I was like,   it gets tight, but I'm not worried. I was like, I'm not quick, but I don't know.   Like, it's not like it's just whatever you fucking you just decide. No. It's hard to it's hard to no. It's hard to figure out because it's gotta be public. Gotta study your market. Right? Yeah. It's hard to figure out what's because you you have fucking rebooks, and some of them don't sell for shit.  

Right. So you'll waste all the You gotta really get to know your market and find out what people want. You know? Yeah. We awesome that you're pulling off. Yeah. Up on it because we had bet. They stepped down. They didn't well, before we even shut down. When we first started, you try this book and it's like,   nothing. Nothing. So we had done 3 books   in 2020, and I think we made   $278 for the whole year. And we were just, like, getting ready to fucking shut it down. This is, you know, waste time.   And then we did the I think it was the secret teachings of all ages. That might have been the one. It was either secret teachings of all ages or the secret doctor. We did one of those, the ones Baldi hates.   So we did one of those and we did that. And like fucking next month, we had made $1200   or something like that. And we're like,   well, it must have just been a bump from our audience. But, I mean, as you guys know, trying to get your audience to do anything is fucking impossible.  

So then turns out the next month, you know, it was   fucking 1600. So it's just this one book was   was selling 10 copies a day on Audible, which seems to was a seemingly   inexhaustible market. And,   so we just like, holy fuck. What else can we do? You know, secret doctor 2, then, course, that doesn't do as good as secret doctor 1. And then, you know, then you find 1, weird ones that do well now. I mean, I can say this. Every time I say we're we're we're done with finding big ones, we end up just finding another big one and work out what we found recently as we can do books that other people have already done, and they'll still do well just based on   on preference. But so then we got shut down by Amazon. They just pulled the plug on us. We had exclusive contract with them.  

And, I mean, we were almost fucked. Like, Graham almost Graham did go back to work. He's been working sorta part time in that because this pulls the rug out from under you. The podcast don't pay enough to for us to Fuck no. To live off of at all. They're kind of a fun. They're a marketing tool. We make a little bit of money.   So,   yeah, now we're just sort of crawling   back. We got in bed with Findaway,   and they're sort of a back route into Audible. That's what originally we got into because it didn't seem like there's money in audiobooks any place but Audible. We were like, well, fuck. What the fuck are we gonna do now?   And then it turns out, well, there's this find a way, and they'll get you an Audible, but now we're not exclusive to Audible. It's gonna take fucking 10 times as long to get them all in there, and your royalty rate is cut in half.  

Must then the new find away has taken a bit of that as well because you lose half right away for being non exclusive, plus your new distributors taking a chunk.   But the beauty of that is now we're non exclusive. So then we start thinking about other ways we can   sell the content. So then right away, find a way, get you into   all these other fucking places.   And there's just like it's just to just keep swimming, man. Just because, honestly, dude, it feels like motherfuckers are trying to fucking shoot me down every fucking chance I get, and I start to take that personally.   But if you read those fucking books by guys like Napoleon Hill, you realize that this is fucking   par for the course, man. And the better you're trying to do, the more fucking adversity you're gonna face because it's gonna make sure you're not a fucking quitter.  



[02:22:29] Unknown:

It's regarding the threshold.  

[02:22:30] Unknown:

Yeah. We just sort of just okay. What the fuck are we gonna do next? What the fuck are we gonna do next? So then we're like sort of trickling these books back in all. We had a 107 books for sale in Audible. Now I think I just looked the other day. We were up to back up to 37.   Luckily, out of those 37, like,   8 were 8 or 9 were better sellers got in quicker, so we've recouped, I think, you know, 20% of the income there.   But lo and behold,   fucking Spotify buys Findaway Voices   and takes a big fucking swing at audiobooks. They wanna start   taking on   Audible. So now, you know, it turns out that Maybe you can ride the wave. And the other thing is Spotify is like, well, we'll give you 80%. We'll give you 80%   of commission instead of 20%.  

So right away, it's like a 4 to 1. So I just don't have to sell a fucking one book on Spotify for every 4   on on Audible. The big thing that they did is they did some sort of credit system. So if you're   we we can get paid just by if you're a Spotify member, you can just watch 15 hours a month, the audiobook, I guess, now, and it'll make so much sense per hour or whatever. It's really not a lot, but they've also, I think, just in the kinda has that system with their,  

[02:23:48] Unknown:

premium  

[02:23:49] Unknown:

But now we're doing credits too. So that's the big one because, like, with Audible, 90% of your sales are credits. People get stuck in this monthly thing,   and they got these credits every month, and they gotta spend. So every month, 90% of our   sales on Audible were   credits. So now Spotify has introduced that same credit system. We're noticing they're fucking creeping up. They're creeping up. Now they're so, you know, there's another 20% or 25% of that income back seemingly through Spotify.  

[02:24:18] Unknown:

Then we should be ready to by choosing to spend 20 bucks on a $20 on a book is different   than I have 4 credits, and I just need to burn them. Exactly. And, you know, for some reason, it doesn't equate into people's mind that that credit cost you $20.  

[02:24:34] Unknown:

Like, oh, yeah. I got 4 credits. I yeah. I'll just pick this book. It's good. Credit Well, it's just like a poker chip. Right? You know? Yeah. If you're sitting at the poker table with cash, you put you bet very different with $100 bills than you do with poker chips. You know? Yeah.  

[02:24:47] Unknown:

Between those 2, we'll eventually you know, when all of our books are available on both those two platforms, we'll have recouped all of that money back,   probably. And then we're like, well, shit. Then we still have all these books. We don't have any we're not exclusive with anyone. They're on Spotify.   I don't think there's a lot of crossover with them in the Audible market, and they're on Audible.   And, you know, so we start podcasts. So we started the adult brain podcast. We'll throw   all the books we make up on this podcast.   We throw, I think, 2 hours every book for free, an hour or 2 depending on how long the book is.  

So you can get a good chunk of it. How long? You can listen to, say, 2 hours of a 10 hour book, decide if you like it. Enough to get hooked. Yeah. And then you can either wait you can either wait, you know, because what we do is every month, we take 3 of those 100 books on a rolling scale and 3 of them are free. So every month, 3 new free books, 3 new free books. But if you get hooked, you can pay us fucking $7 a   month. And we're actually thinking about bringing that down. I'll probably,   drop the price down to $3 a month pretty soon. 7 is really low. Yeah. I think we'll go down even further than that because Audible and those guys want 15, so I wanna be, like, a 5th of that. You know? I wanna come down because the content's made.   So anyway, we're gonna drop that price down soon. But right now, for $7 a month, you can, like,   you can get all the books all the time. Oh, wow. If they're all there, a 150 books. You can get them anytime, all the time.  

And then what we've decided now is, well, you know, the YouTube, there's no crossover with the podcast. And if the podcast don't have to list to a full advertisement,   the beginning. That's really, like, 90%, 95% of your revenue is gonna come from that first click. Most people aren't gonna make it to the next ad. The beauty about the long form content, though, is the people that do will make up for everyone else because it's not a 5 minute video or an 8 minute video. So,   you know, lo and behold, we'd start throwing them on YouTube and  

[02:26:51] Unknown:

What's the average listen or watch  

[02:26:54] Unknown:

rate? Depends on the book. I've on Isis Unveiled,   you know, it's been out for about 2 weeks. It's got 12 or 15000   views,   and the average watch rate is probably I think the last time I checked was about 33 or 34 minutes.   That's that's fairly  

[02:27:10] Unknown:

thing that the occult is   is so popular currently. I mean, just in 2 weeks, that's that's shocking.  

[02:27:17] Unknown:

Are you kidding? We've only got we only fucking monetized, like, a week and a half ago. So we no. We monetized January 28th because you couldn't monetize. It took us a year to get to a 1000 followers.   So we didn't wanna start dumping out all the big content until we hadn't even decided we were gonna do it yet, honestly, to be perfectly honest. We just decided once we monetize   and I we put out Isis Unveiled, and I was like, holy shit. We're making, like, $100 a week off Isis Unveiled right now. That's, like,   more than we make on sales, or it's at least par to what we make on sales. So   Wow. That's real amazing. Right? But now we're in the channel trying to grow this audiobook, and there's a bunch of competition, but everyone else is doing AI.  

So we have that. So no one and I think they're gonna the AI moves are coming. I don't know what they're gonna be, but there's a real chance that YouTube's not gonna let you monetize if you got a bunch of AI reading everything all the time. But, I mean, you wanna talk about perseverance, dude. I just, like, fucking they so we get set up. We're doing we start releasing these books. We got a 100 books to fucking release.   Everyone we're talking to says don't release them. If you release them every day or if you just upload them all the time, you're just gonna ruin all your growth potential, and it'll take you 10 years to accomplish what you could accomplish in 6 months if you get a good steady schedule going.   So we're like, I don't know, I read a bunch of books, I watched a bunch of videos, dig into it, and everything I can find says just to do it. So   we're kind of living out that process right now, but, you know, we just start getting paid from there and fucking boom, you get demonetized.  

YouTube, oh, you can't be monetized because,   I don't know, x, y, and z.   You know? And it's like, well, fuck. You know? And your first thought is, well, fuck YouTube, man. Fuck it. But   and I'm like, well, no. Well, then you gotta do this appeal, and you gotta do this. You gotta do that.   So we jumped through their hoops and, you know, we get re monetized. But we coulda just gave up at that point too. You know? There's a there's a point where in my life where I would've just said, well, fuck it. This ain't you know? It's too hard. We don't like it. But they're just like, well, we're just making sure you guys are you guys. Like, you know, anyone could be downloading these.   So they they they made us send in a video of, like, Graham on video. Verification. And then I'm like, wow.  

So now we're, like, locked in on there. And, I mean, honestly, it's starting to look like YouTube might be the biggest the biggest one. It might be I mean, right now, it's 2,200,000,000   fucking   active users a day and a 1000000000 hours of content watched every day. It's like, I don't even have to, if that thing is just like,  

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I don't know. But if you YouTube's premium service has got a 100,000,000 people paying for it.   People are paying   for YouTube now.  

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Yeah. And that's about 30% of our revenue, it looks like. So it's about 70%   is coming from people watching the ads.   And but the other thing is that it it gives us this whole new avenue where we can now say our books are fucking free. Here you go. Go get the books for free. We're still making money, but they're free. So we're able to cover, like,   every end of the spectrum. You know? You can buy them. You can podcast them. Or if you want them for free, they're way easier to promote free,   way easier to get people to click on them. Because if you just get people to click on them one fucking time,   they gotta watch that first ad. So there's your you know, you said, basically, for every the average works out to about for every 1,000 people you can get to click on it. It's like,   $10.  

So then you start fucking looking at, well, how do I get these motherfuckers to click on this fucking thing?   And then the fucking now I'm you know? And I do this with a lot of my stuff, but now I'm, you know, got a whole stack of books on   marketing and influence. And I've always been into this persuasion kind of stuff. I was a big Scott Adams fan before it was popular.   Yeah. Because some of his early stuff before everyone hated him, before he took off, like, his early stuff,   how to fail at everything and still win big, man, that's one of the best books I've ever fucking read. As far as the self help genre, Napoleon Hill if you like Napoleon Hill,   Scott Adams' first fucking book,   How to Fill Out Everything and Still Win Big or something like that is fucking amazing. It's a real practical guide   to the exact same fucking thing.  

So now we're trying this YouTube thing and I get addicted to that. So I'm looking at yeah. I'm reading the books, reading the things because it's like, you know, if I can get 1.8   out of every 100 people to click on my thumbnail, that's a lot less than, like, right now, for example, on on ISIS and Thoth where we're making money.   It's, like, say, 5 or 6%   of click through rate. So if I take that even down to a 1.6   on a different one,   it's fucking the difference is whether you're making money or you're not making money.   And,   it's like, well, the is ISIS unveiled a better book than Think and Grow Rich? Is it that much more popular?  

I don't think that it is. I so then it comes down to this fucking thumbnail thing. You just gotta get them to click on the fucking thing, whether that's with the title of the thumbnail.   But it turns out that's, like, 89% of this shit is not through search. It's not. It's all through 89%   of all our views come from the home page.   That's just you fucking opening YouTube and scrolling down and because The recommendations. You like something that someone else liked or do do do I mean, we got nobody subscribed compared to our views. So it's only, like, 8% of our videos are watched by our actual subscribers.   So   that's Wow. Fucking   matter.  

And then the the next one is that other one I just told you. It's like it's that no one's searching it anymore. It used to be you wanted to be on YouTube because it was a high search thing in Google. But now that I'm making actual YouTube content, it's like, well, it's like 12% of these people found it through search,   and out of that,   only, like, 6% of that 12%   was out external. Most of it was within   YouTube. So there's really no Google value to it anymore,   but it just comes down to these fucking thumbnails, man. You just gotta get them. They're YouTube's gonna put you in the fucking playing field. Right? Because it's gonna be like   YouTube wants people to keep clicking. Especially now that we're not making controversial content. Right? This is new for me. Because for the last years,   everything  

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Okay. So now now now we get the guy. The room. Because you because you've been confusing the fuck out of me because I got my shit and, like Yeah. We can't. We can't. We can't. Can  

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be on YouTube. We don't get recommended. We've been at 10,000 followers on our other YouTube channel for 10 years. It hasn't fucking moved. Doesn't matter. But our new channel gains, you know, a 100 followers a day because it's now we're finally and we're, like, just talking with YouTube. You know? YouTube likes us because we're YouTube friendly content that engages the audience for   a long amount of time.   But the point is, it's all so YouTube's algo is trying to put your fucking shit in front of people who they think might wanna click on. And at this point, I gotta assume it's the same people. So why are 6 people clicking on ISIS   and 6% of out of every 106   out of every 100 are clicking on those, but only 1 and a half of every 100 are clicking on of winning the devil, which is one of the best books ever fucking written, or Think and Grow Rich or these, you know, fill in the blank.  

Because we've got some books out there that should be doing fucking better. And all I can think of is it's the fucking thumbnail. I gotta figure out So that's how you outwit the devil? It's by having a a thumbnail. To be it on YouTube. It seems to be   we gotta get them to click on. I mean, it could just be title. I could be overthinking it. It could just be like, nah. I already read Think and Grow Rich.   Well, there's 10 more than other more noses. I thought maybe it was because there's already 10 versions of Think and Grow Rich on YouTube, but then you do a Thoth, and it it it looks like it's taken off too. And there's 10 versions of thoth on there.  

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It's just for Is it upload date? Or  

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as near as I can tell, it's that fucking thumbnail. It's a thumbnail. That's what I'm that's what I've come down to. And, like, everything I know about people in 2024,  

[02:35:44] Unknown:

I mean, why not? Because it boobs judging books by covers again.  

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Yeah.   Yeah. A 100% judging books by covers. Dude, I spend   because it's funny because all the literature says, I spend more time on your thumbnails than you do on the way way way. And it's like that. And now all of a sudden, dude, this is like   10% of my fucking work time on a video. It's like fucking just like I've got like 7 thumbnails. I'm going back and forth between.   If I put them up and if it doesn't get enough engagement in the first few hours, I'm thinking about what I'm gonna switch it to. That's what Netflix  

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does with their movies and their series. They have   multiple thumbnail images,   and they will adjust the thumbnail to   fit the demographic.   I think the specific example was there's a movie that had maybe one   black person in it. But if you put that black person on the poster,   and then that demographic is more likely to click on it than if it's just   white people in love, this sort of thing.   So knowing the audience and then playing to them is one thing that Netflix has admitted to. And we've seen that. Good one.   The the a b testing, the a b c testing, YouTube itself, Google,   they do   this testing. I've got 3 different Instagram accounts,   and I'll log in.  

Each account displays the graphic user interface differently to each account.   So everything is just tweaked just a little bit,   and that's where we're talking about the nuance of understanding that just a minor difference   makes a huge difference in a big numbers game.  

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It's just something you never figured you'd get yourself, see yourself doing. You know what I mean? Like, Jesus Christ. I'm a, like, market decide.  

[02:37:30] Unknown:

I would it's no different than selling any other product though because, I mean, basically, any product,   if you can make it look appealing, it doesn't matter how shitty the product is inside.   People want that blingy fucking rapping on it. And it's harder when everything's free though.  

[02:37:50] Unknown:

Right. It it makes it it just pollutes the whole space because everything you can have anything.   And you could just have it for a second or   have a whole thing.   But I know what you mean. I mean, at the at the end of the day, it hasn't fucking changed. If you can sell shit, you can sell shit.   Yeah.   It should be easier to sell it for free by all   But it's all about the attitude. But you're also selling to retard, so you can't rule that out. Sometimes you gotta raise the price way up, and then people buy the hell out of it. I was just fucking reading a book about that today.  

[02:38:26] Unknown:

Dude,   Freeman Fly says that. Freeman Fly,   I was hanging out with him,   was it last year?   And,   he was saying that when he asked people   back before YouTube, back before all that, when Freeman had, you know, 1,000,000 and 1,000,000 of followers.   He said if I asked for $1, he's like, I would have been a millionaire.   And if everybody gave me one, he goes, and I couldn't ever get that. But as soon as I started for bigger things, then all of a sudden, like, when I want when he got his house   and he needed,   like, $30,000   or something like that,   to get a down payment on his house, he said that was no problem. That appeared in weeks. But trying to get people to send me $1 was impossible.  



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Yeah. I I mean, it's about 1 and a half percent that we figure support.   It goes up on this,   it goes up on the,   if you make them pay for the second half, you can get that number up, like, to almost 10%.  

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I'm You think and, It's out of Goodwill because they like you. They like your brand. They've been with you for a number of years. They wanna see you keep doing it.  

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They won't be there for the whole group. Reminding  

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them that   for you to continue doing what you're doing   requires a financial resources.   And just saying, hey. You've been listening for 10 years,   chipping something.   They're like, well, little chip,   not a whole lot. But you say a bigger ass setting a goal, letting the community come together. I think we found that out with,   raising money to get a truck one time Yeah. After Las Vegas. How did that work?  

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Yeah. When, my truck burned down, after Flighttoberfest   this last year, I was one of the speakers at Flighttoberfest and or my truck was stolen. I've had some pro truck problems lately. I have to keep them straight.   Fucking, my truck was stolen while we were at the because the new truck got burned down. Yeah. The new truck, the the replacement truck got burnt down. That's a whole another fucking story all in itself. But they, within days,   they had,   you know, I could've counted on my hands, and they had me enough money to get a new truck. So that was crazy. I I'm still just blown away by that.  

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If you build it, they will come.  

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Yeah. Well, if we promise right now that we're gonna do the $10,000   24 hour wildest, craziest, most private, most exclusive livestream you've ever seen in your fucking life, people will come up with the $10 to see what we'll do. You know?  

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Bro, we should go for a 100.  

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What are we gonna do though? Yes.  

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Well, for a $100, we're gonna we might have to get naked and swing our dicks around and stuff.   Why is it always go there? Why does it always go there? For people who wanna see a baby car, they wanna see Like, why is that always where it ends?   We stand right   round, baby. Right round. This is what we want. The jack the jackass model of 10 g m. Exactly. Unfortunately, we are that close to,  

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Al My Balls and Jackass model is in full We just heard Darren tell us how he's reading occult books,   and people are probably having   the paperback copy in front of them as they're listening to the narration,   which is keeping them on track to start from page 1 to complete the book because the person already wants to finish   the book, but having that extra help with a narrator   because believe me, some of those words are weird and hard to pronounce. Having an expert going through   figuring out proper   pronunciation.  

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Do not. I I did not say that.  

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I did not represent that.  

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The dude can't pronounce Arai.  

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He said Arai.  

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There's so many mispronunciations   on Audible. I just forgive all the people reading because   it's like   I mean, you the guy sounds so smart and it's so good, and then you're like, bro, that's not that that's not the right word. Alright. Hey. This is Chris. Not here. I was don't ever tell him I told you this. But  

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on the,   on Audible, the first time someone someone,   left the the review on the secret teachings of all ages. They're like, they should have called this the mispronunciations   of all ages.  

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Well, now I wanna listen to that and follow along in the book to see what words are mispronounced and then circle them in the book and make a little fun game of it. I think now you're the biggest genius of all ages.  

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So thank you for sharing this.  

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Yeah. Well, we're just always trying to work on it, you know, trying to figure it out. Instead of whining and complaining, we're just trying to figure out how we can fucking get around it. You know? Okay. That broke. So what can we do? I  

[02:43:26] Unknown:

don't wanna have a regular job anymore. So Well, it's back to that. I think what you said is it's commitment level of intention.   You set your intention and you commit 100%,   and then you're gone. You're on your way if you could do those things first.  

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Get focused on what you want and then say done with normal jobs. Like, I was like, yeah. That's it. No no more.  

[02:43:48] Unknown:

At the very least, it's funner.   Probably more stressful, and everything else was funner. But, I do have to run, boys. My wife is busting my balls for some dinner. So   We appreciate you, man. Nice talking to you. Yeah. Always a pleasure. This has been great. This has been great. We'll have to do this again, sometime down the road. So where do people think about it?   Grimeamerica.ca.   Dotca. Grimeamerica.ca   will have links to everything else.   But it is. It's grimeamerica.ca   and contact at the cabin for all the trips and events we do that we didn't even talk about. We'd like to have you back to talk about some of the in person meetups. We can talk about that kind of stuff. And, Go America Outlawed is the other podcast.   Beautiful. We support you. Have a great night, man. Thank you. Thanks, boys. I appreciate this. It's been great. You guys have a wonderful weekend. It's a long weekend here. So And nice to meet you too, man. For real. He really does kinda look like one of y'all, doesn't he? Isn't that weird? Dude, I guess I'm his doppelganger. I don't know.  

Or he's mine or something.  

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Alright, boys. Pretty weird. Thanks for coming on, man. It's good to meet you.  

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To figure out the mystery of the.   The the mayo Mayo   Maui's? Mayois?  

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Telling Marcus not to do this.   You get it out of your system. Come on. Get that some more. I know you got more shit you need to put up. Over at the front. This one. I know you do.  

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Whoo. Yeah. It feels so good.   Hey. Get it out. Get it out. Where's Dave and I going to get David right now? Dave and I, bring up the David. Is this the is this the best one? Is this the best thumbnail? Is this the most popular one? It's it's one of the I wanted to share this one too. Like  

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Well, that one was that bad because Wario Mario we need to make Elon into that.  

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That's true. We have the portal chair here. There's a portal chair, everyone. Leave me hanging on fucking I I on fucking,  

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Blavatsky over here. You guys are like, we love Blavatsky.   Oh, we love Blavatsky.  

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Oh, I gave people reference to what they needed to find. If they wanna go look at Renee Gwenon and see that he threw the whole fucking thing under the bus. But if these guys are making money reading the audiobooks, we don't wanna knock it down too hard, you know, if they're gonna get a couple dollars. Fucking making money by no means.  

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If I don't They're onto it. They're cracking the code, I think. Yeah. No. That's freaking that was fascinating.  

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Definitely not against that.   Fuckers just gonna leave me hanging though. These these books these these books aren't gonna burn themselves. Someone's gonna Not you, Sean. Quit quit owning up to it, Sean.   You sit back.  

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That speed's the only one that dropped in and out. Blame it as a  

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tech problems. I think he was just, like, yeah. I was tempted to say more, but, you know, I I never met these guys either. So it's like, I don't wanna, you know, come. We don't want it to turn into theosophical blood sports. You know?  

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You know, I'm never afraid to offend anybody.  

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Let's find out what we disagree with right now.  

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Ben has what we call a desire   a desire to be disapproved of sometimes.  

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He asked. He asked what I got him.   What the fuck?  

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You fuckers just after, like, no. She's great.  

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Fuckers.  

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I I love David Ike. I really do. He gives me endless entertainment.   Lots of fun ideas that I wouldn't have thought about otherwise.   And if it comes from some guy called   or or I  

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don't know. I don't care who it is. I love a fine shirt, Marcus Allen, Marcus.  

[02:47:40] Unknown:

It's beautiful. That is. That's a wild shirt. That is a wizard shirt. If I ever saw one Is it too much? No. It's great. It's beautiful. Just beautiful. Just trying to get just enough purple. I know. I hope those guys make a $1,000,000 off it. I also found I also found it fascinating how many people   currently   are, like, in 2 weeks, you got that many fucking views on ISIS and beta.   Like, that's that's a shocking amount on a book that's existed for, you know,   however many years. It's not like that's a fucking new hit book. You know? It's not like he just read Game of Thrones,   Winds of Winter or some shit. You know? Like, he's been in it for 10 years podcasting at least.  

So if He's saying that's not coming out of his audience. That's he's saying that this is Randall Right. Randall Banks.   This isn't coming out of his audience. He is saying a very small percentage is coming out of his audience.   So that many people are looking for ISIS unveiled   or or at least looking for a cult things and finding that to be the one   that they should be reading. And to me, that's fascinating given, you know, what fucking year did Isis unveil drop? Let's look that up.  

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A lot of people are referencing it. And if this is sort of where people are waking up and   watching this content   that references   ISIS unveiled and   and all these other figures. 70  

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fucking   7. Wow. Wow. That book is a 150 years old, and it's and it's hotcakes on his fucking on the website, like, you know, like, this is something new. That's amazing to me.  

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It's a classic.  

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Like, if you put up something wonderful, like,   one of my favorite classic books is is, Count of Monte Cristo.   Yeah. You know, I I find most classic books pretty shitty. I thought that was thought he was gonna say box saga.   No. I'm talking about something that's in the more mainstream there. I know. I was just joking you. You know you know, you know, we got got some monkeys and goats and whatever the fuck fucking, you know, whatever.   Okay. You know, like,   but, you know, like, Count of Monte Cristal. That's a classic wonderful book. If you read that,   would you get even remotely close to that many hits in a 2 week period as he did   with Isis unveiled?  



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That's a good question. Or you wouldn't. I wouldn't.   But they did.  

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I'm saying if if they read cardamani crystal and put that up next to ISIS unveiled,   which,   you know, just in the general public, you would think would be a much more broadly appealed book. Right.  

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It's a long   book   and people who complete   the narration of it   are so few. So technical people might people might start reading a book, release it to YouTube, and then just   see their numbers drop off when they do chapter 2. And then chapter 3, no one's watching it, and then they just don't finish the book.   But to have someone say, I've narrated the entire book knowing that you can start it and you can finish it with the same narrator.   It's all   here. The quality is consistent all the way throughout.  

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That's a hard book to read. That's a good delivery. That's a product. I mean,  

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I'm in that market because, I look all the time for audiobooks that,   aren't available. You know they're not available on Audible, so you don't even look. So you go look on YouTube and, like, Alan said, oh, there's 1 or 2 chapters or maybe the whole thing's there, but they don't have it in a playlist. So then it makes it complicated. Yeah. It's making it real hard to find. And so then I'll just go snag the PDF,   if it's available and then dump it into a voice to text reader thing.   But sometimes that doesn't wanna work right depending on how the what the quality of the PDF is and that kind of stuff. So if you could turn around and find it for $2, I'll buy it for $2, You know? You know? No problem. Which is the case? My other question. Does this only count for books, like, that are what are if these books are currently in publish,   did the publishers not get mad about this? Like, you've just fucking taken Public domain. No. It's I think it's all public domain stuff. That's their that's their niche is that they're working with stuff that's not otherwise, they'd have to have contracts and agreements with whoever's holding the copyright and all that stuff. Just like Mickey Mouse. Yeah. Like, when we were talking about when we were just talking to Richard Mack, it sounded like he hires the person that reads his audiobooks.  



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Right. Like, like, that's a specific He's directly working with somebody. Exactly.  

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Very interesting.  

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So, basically, you just wait, you know, similar to, like, these songs where you wait for eventually the   patent type thing to run out and then you can do whatever the fuck you want with it. Is that that idea? Yep. Has the happy birthday song  

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become public domain yet?   Gross. Or do we still have to go to, Texas Roadhouse to hear their variations? There's  

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that goddamn much money on public domain books.  

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Wow. Time and attention   is is money for people. It's a it's a currency.  

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Well, we're all working jobs that we we, go feel like we're going brain dead trying to get them done so you throw the earbuds in. And so then when you start to run out of stuff, you look for anything. You know? You do go find the kind of Monte Cristo,   on YouTube, but then you don't wanna pay $13 a month to YouTube. And so you're constantly trying to skip the ads and you can't close the screen. So then you try to be real careful while you're grinding metal like gym out in the shop. You stick your phone in your back pocket. It touch a fucking screen. And then it skips your spot. You're trying to go back 2 videos and now the boss is yelling at you because you're looking at your phone. Mhmm. So it's okay. A fence post I got a fence post down below. I show you not. It's a it's a specific set fence post. It's got a little divot in it, and I set my phone in that. That's right.   Right. But see then then then Graham and and Darren come along and they're like, bro, we got you covered. Yeah. If you're broke, we'll do it for free. If you wanna give us $7, we got fucking books for days.  

And and you can you can call me back. 100 years.  

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I'm still fascinated. And I also   and the problem with sales is there's there's no way to make a direct apples to apples comparison.   Because even if he puts   what he thinks is a better thumbnail for the other books,   like, to me, this just is very indicative with the Isis Unveiled. Like,   we're very stuck into the new age movement, and and I don't find things like chakras and things like that to be new age. I think that they just   came and subsumed,   some of these ideas.   And then the way that they're regurgitated is the new ageness to it. Not that these ideas in and of themselves are old are, new.   Just the way that they're putting them out, You know? And, like, I I stated to him because I'm apparently the only one that knows how, you fuckers. You need hanging.  

Fucking   one I haven't read Blavatsky,   so I don't even know how the story ends. So I'm not there yet. Studying this for, like, 8 months. Quit fucking pretending. Well, I heard she's stinky and she and she ate a lot.  

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Ben and her both smoke cigarettes, so they got that in common.  

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HP is like hit points, Spivatsky,   HP Lovecraft.   I don't I don't know my HPs.  

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Hewlett Packard. That's a huge Hits points. Blavatsky would be a pretty good YouTube name.  

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Hit points. Blavatsky. I love that.  

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Well, quit going outside, you dummy.   It's raining.  

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So public domain after 1976   is, 70 years after  

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the the life of the author.  

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After the life of the author. So you're waiting for the author to kick the bucket. And then 70 years if it's been published in 1976.  

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But before that, it's I think it's a little bit different.  

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Well, yeah. They keep trying to fudge it because they realize how valuable things are. Like, Jimmy Hendrix, when he was alive,   had no idea   how prolific his fortune would become,   you know. And so he signed a lot of dumb contracts, and they never really thought anything about it. And then even after he died unexpectedly,   the family still never doubled down and, like, secured everything.   And then   it blows up to be one of the biggest things that's ever been and it becomes like a, you know, a seriously big huge multimillion dollar   product.  

And so these companies realize that they're gambling all the time and they don't know.   They don't know what's gonna happen, you know. Richard Knapp's books might be 10 times more,   more popular   50 years after he's passed away than they ever were when he was alive even though they were popular then. They might wanna make them into movies and 3 d video games and virtual reality experiences and all this shit that you can't imagine.   And so Yeah. Sometime sometime in 50 years when when basically you're standing in a world like Pokemon and shit just appears around you. Right. Yeah. Right. Instead of it being a a thing you put wear on your face, it's actually holographic projection that's coming off of the guy next to me. Holodeck.  

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Yeah.   I also enjoyed   Don Quixote. That was pretty good. Moby Dick was pretty good. I've never read the brothers.  

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Brother's is very good. You would enjoy Dion Quixote  

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fortune.  

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Yeah. The other the other ones were pretty good, though. I agree. They weren't bad. I mean, I I'm not that big of a fan. I think   it seems like because I've read a lot of old books. And it seems like with old books, the ones that really become more popular were just the ones that they put more effort into it. Like, if you ever read,   things like, John Carter Mission to Mars, I think each one of those books is like a 150 pages. There's absolutely no   adjectives in the fucking book. You know, they're like, here's the thing. The thing that this thing   the end. Like, there there's not a a a lot of wording, you know, as opposed to, like, a Robert Jordan book where he might spend fucking half a page   describing this goddamn thermometer,   you know, which has absolutely no relevant relevance to the story whatsoever.  

Yeah. No. Though.   Yeah. It is a nice thermometer.   Thank you.  

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I I don't know what the barometric pressure  

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and climate humidity and everything so I can really immerse myself in the book. Right. Right. And so I I find that the older books,  

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the ones that they really like, you take, War and Peace. If you've ever read War and Peace, It's a pretty shitty book, really.   You know? I mean,   it's interesting because they portray that as, you know,   the best betrayal of,  

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is war and peace end in a truce?  

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And then and then a truce or death? A stalemate.  

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Mutual assured destruction. They all die in the end.  

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Right. But it's a good ending.  

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It's a 90 3. You're giving away the ending because it's it should be called war and peace.  

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Yeah. War and   Peace. Yeah. War and Peace. War and both of these. It should  

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be called the author had a weird fucking thing with women with hairy lips.   That's what it should have been called. Because when the hair   like, it's not a fucking nice mustache, man. Like, that's just, you know, know, that should have been the end of it. Like, yeah, I really like that chick's mustache.   But, hey, you're fucking weirdo.  

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Eastern Europe.  

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I know about I know about Georgian peaches, but I heard that Georgia is also a country over in Europe there. So I get confused sometimes about geography.  

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Oh, did you see what's going on in Georgia?   Like, that's a fucking huge deal. Like, that lawsuit that was going on against Trump over in Georgia.   Yeah. They got that lawsuit. You know, they were suing Trump in Georgia, you know, had a big lawsuit. That's one of the states where they were really making a stand.   Well, now the prosecutor,   has fucked up so badly   and is tied to some of the people from the, I believe, the Clint or,   the Biden campaign and whatnot.   And it's so bad that the prosecutor is gonna have to quit, and it looks like they're gonna get felony charges. Said there's some people getting felony charges over it that we're trying to prosecute Trump, which doesn't necessarily,   stop the, you know, the prosecution of Trump. They could fill in with another   prosecutor,   and try to keep pushing forward with this. But, you know, it   really makes it real fucking weird.  

Like, things are and you knew that there was gonna be shenanigans and fuckery around all of it anyways. Oh, it's gonna get crazy. So crazy.   Where the fuck did you come from?   Mom? Yeah? I was just digging back there pulling hellie out, and he was not back there.  

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A pair of fries can attack.   Now Haven't seen fluffy butter Lumpkins?  

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Yeah. No. Here's the croissant cat. Lumpkins is hiding somewhere. Here's the croissant cat. Yeah. I'd like to see that cat. It's all buttered up. Yeah. It's like Does the guy there anymore? Is Garfield in public domain? He should be. Oh, Garfield's got it. Treasure.   That's some old shit.   So 70 years at pre what's the law pre 1976   then? So this basically puts all the 100 years.  

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Mhmm. But I'm gonna have to look.  

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I think it used to be a 100 years from the copyright date.  

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Unless you're in Russia. Right? Does it depend on country? It was on a ship.  

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On country.  

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Photo. So we time and nothing matters. So when we play when we play the music or rather I play music that I chose, I   upload it to YouTube beforehand to see what the agreement is   with the music.   There was there was some songs that are blocked in certain regions. So then I'll go  

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bonus kitty. Brian. Bonus titty? Bonus kitty. Yeah. That's my bonus kitty.   Bonus key. All the cat all the rats are gone, thankfully. I'm not sure that the cats are that much better, but the rats are gone. Here comes my cat.  

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Goddamn   it. There he is. From 3 o'clock nice. That's a cute cat. Yeah. He's a tough guy. He's a grumpy son of a bitch.  

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He's a I've seen him out in the garden. With her. Yeah.  

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Yeah. Now don't get me wrong, he's really loving and kind too, but he's still like, I'm really enjoying this, but I may have to attack you. He sleeps where he wants to.   He gets mad if Jim doesn't take him on a walk with him.  

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Yeah. He likes to walk with the dogs.  

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Fuzzy love is follows me everywhere. That's how that one became an indoor cat because, like, if I go outside. Like, yesterday, I was out sawing wood chainsawing, and he'd run, like, 20 feet away when I'd start the chainsaw. But as soon as I'd stop to throw wood, he'd come back and hang out. Hey. You know, we're just doing stuff,  

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hanging out.  

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I think he's outside. He comes if I calls him if I call him like a dog. I've never seen anything like it. If I put my head outside and yell for him, he'll come running.  

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The   bravest   cat to them all.   You remember Milo and Otis movie? Yes. Saw that in the movie theaters.  

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My little brother wanted to see it real bad, so I had to go with  

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Yeah. I had to go.  

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Yeah. I think you've got a star there on your end. We saw a star wars the week before,   and that one was for me. Yeah. You know? So then my brother got to pick the movie the next week because my dad and mom were divorced at the time. And so then my dad would take us to movies on Sunday or whatever,   or he did take us to the,   bump and tilt the arcade, 1 or the other. And so I picked, Star Wars, and then my brother picked Milo and Otis.  

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So what's the winner out of those 2 movies knowing what you know now? Is it Star Wars the best movie or Milo and Otis?  

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Well, you know,   it it was the Star Wars with Ewoks, so I think it was about the same as Milo and Otis.  

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Yeah. Ewoks. That's yeah.   They know more.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Ewoks.  

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Yeah. For sure.  

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Ewoks versus Seahawks who would win?  

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Ewoks.   Seahawks don't know anything about logs. No.  

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Nothing. Nothing about logs. I don't even know what it's I don't think Seahawks could even make a net. No.  

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Completely foiled. I think Seahawks are just glorified pelicans anyway, but what do I know?  

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I think there's, like, 12 movies since Milo and Otis that are the exact same movie   that I you know? Like, fucking that other people bring up, and I'm just like and I go to look it up, and it's basically Milo and Otis, like, the exact same fucking movie. Like, they just keep remaking that every couple years.  

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Yeah. I'm always like, I saw that one.   Yeah. Same movie.   Same orange cat, though.  

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Yeah.   Change the title of the movie, change the movie poster on Netflix, and then you won't even remember   that it's a different movie, but it's the same movie. That did happen to me once with books.  

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Alright. Fucking it was called wizard world, Roger Zelensky.   And when it originally came out, it was 2 books. And then they put it together, and it wasn't called wizard world. It was 2 books that were named different. Then wizard world came out, and I thought it was a whole new book. And I got, like, 4 chapters into it. I'm like, why is this shit seems so familiar?   I swear to god I read this. I'm having deja vu.   Fucker got me to buy that book again, though. Yeah.  

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That's a key.  

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Yeah.  

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New thumbnails.  

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The New art on old books, 100%.   Because because I I do that even, like, I can distinctly tell, like,   in the nineties,   like, when I first became an adult and spent a lot of time in bookstores and shit,   I can you can almost feel the art that this was a nineties fantasy book. Like, that you could almost feel that fucking art. And then when they put something else on it, it's not even the same book. Like, you're just like, oh, it's a different book.  

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Yeah. Very, very much so. I think Harry Potter had different covers for different regions.   One was called the Philosopher's Stone, and it was called something else in a different place. So even the titles have some variation for regions.  

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Yeah. Or like they changed the name of, do androids dream of electric sheep to blade runner and stick fucking horse in Harrison Ford's picture on the cover. It's like, you guys,   this is not that's not right. That's not that's not how this works. I know that the Philip k Dick book inspired the movie, but really they have almost nothing to do with each other. And so it's not right to call it it's not Blade Runner. Blade Runner is the movie. Do androids dream of electric sheep is some totally different thing than Blade Runner. You know?   And of course if you put I get mad if they put a picture of an actor on a book because it's like, I don't wanna think about   Harrison Ford as the damn lead character. I want my brain to generate the character.  

Not  

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On the same token, I bet you it really picks up sales because, like, if you read, like, running   man, you know, before running man came out, you know, it was just a Stephen King short story nobody'd ever heard of. You put Arnold Schwarzenegger   on the fucking cover, and all of a sudden, everybody knows about it. Flies off the shove. It's right back to the thumbnail idea. Yeah. Yeah.   See a lot of thumbnails in my throat. And I don't know what Zephyr's comment. I had to highlight that. I don't know what the fuck that ties to in any way, shape, or form, but it's an awesome comment.   Had a had a manager  

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JPP?  

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His name was JP. That's that's just good information.   I'm glad to know this.   Fucking   my favorite comment all night.  

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That gets a star.  

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Yeah. Yeah. No idea what it was in reference to. Like, why the fuck you put that air? But, hey, I I love it. I I don't know what the fuck it means.  

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But when the drill on the had 3 nipples. Remember when the alien girl ripped her shirt open and she had the extra titty? There was definitely a nipple there. Fucking ain't right. Because I mean, if the 3rd titty didn't have a nipple, would it even be a titty?   I don't think so. No.  

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Definitely not.   No.  

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I mean, you could have a nipple with no titty behind it. Like, that that's just a thing. Like, we've got various sizes of amounts of fat behind it. Yeah. I mean, just a nipple in the middle would actually technically be a titty. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The you know, after the very there's just, you know, various amounts of fat behind the nipple. The nipple is what counts. That's what's that's what the distinguishing  

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factor is. The nipple keeps score.  

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Yeah. The nipple is definitely part. Yeah. Bonus titty. Yeah.  

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That's why the girls on Instagram, they remove their nipples and post the pictures aren't very popular. Because I mean, people try to enjoy it but the smoothness is not the same as if the nipple is there, you know. It was a thing. And they replace the female nipple with the male nipple to try to get it to slide by but then they still get flagged by the AI sensors.   They have those bras with the fake nipples in them or the fake nipple, implants. Yeah. Yeah. Hard nipple to make it look like, you know, a bra so that you look like your nipples are cold and excited and could cut glass and all that stuff they say. Is that pornographic?  

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It it's it interesting. I was just European.   Movie called Babylon.  

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Mhmm. And,  

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it was a movie based on, the silent movie movie era and the transition between the silent movie and the   you know, movies with audible in them. Audio. Audio in them. And   I   maybe I wanted to read a book.   So you got you guy   you you Graham's got whoever. I got my wife back here. She she's the one who always corrects everything   I say. But, you know, it was the transition to that.   And one of the things that she talked about in there that, like, they showed a whole scene where apparently, you know, her nipples were hard and then the other girl got mad, you know, and I I imagine in the silent movie movie era, that was a real big deal.  

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We're in the That was pre code. That was before there was a code that was enforced about what couldn't couldn't be shown.   Since we're talking about cup sizes, a, b, c, d, e, f, and g, who's gonna play the Bee Gees in the Ridley Scott directed film?  

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God.  

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And if they just, showed a little bit more nipples through those silver  

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because that gold, what color are they wearing? I'd like to see if fitness was so key back then.  

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Absolutely. Why do they have so much hair? Rockstar Fitness.  

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It's a sign of good health   and shampoo.  

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I I have a lot of body hair. Prosperous chest hair.   And the like, that was 3 wookies. Why why do they have so much vibe here?  

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That's how you know you're a human.  

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Europeans don't care about nipples. I I agree. Like, when I was over in Germany, that was a culture shock for me. Freaking,   when I walked out in the day hall and they had the TV on and they were there was, like, a pornographic   scene. It was, you know, it wasn't   triple x, but it was definitely x, you know, where   where you couldn't exactly see what was going on, but you saw everything but that. You're like, I was like, who the fuck ordered the porn channel? Like, no. This is just normal TV. It's just   look. They're   like okay. Just wow.  

And they don't care about nothing in Europe.  

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No. They have topless news in some places.   Yeah.  

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Makes it easier to to watch the news for sure.  

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All the straight dudes in the seventies were ripped. Yeah. Yeah.   Well, I well, a lot of that though is too. You gotta wonder how much,   those guys were not necessarily back then drinking cheap beer all the goddamn time.   All the time. And then and then all the processed foods   not being eaten.   Awful hard to remain ripped when you're sucking in estrogen all day. You know, that's still just a thing. People don't realize   that,   Hops has   100 a time, you know,   multiples   over   soy and the amount of cytoestrogen that it contains. And Yeah. So if you're drinking the IPA and you're touching the receipt,  

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you're pretty much growing tits at that point. That was the worst day in my life when I found out about IPA.   That was my favorite beer.   I barely had any for years now.   Couple of years.   IPA is good. Well, it used to be good. I've won the other day and it sucked.   I was like,  

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Isn't it amazing how you can train your palate? Yeah. Like, I I remember the the biggest lesson for me when I was switching over to just really healthy food   was bread.   And to switch from normal processed bread to, like, the grainy,  

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bread bits in it. Yeah. That that was rough. That was rough, and now I wouldn't now it's like the idea of going back. It's like mush in your mouth. And Yeah. White bread, like, gets stuck to the roof of your mouth and, like, it doesn't chew right. It doesn't have any, resistance to the to the chompers. You know? Yeah. Shoeing is the key to a strong jawline.  

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Yeah.   So, you know, it's it's very interesting because it just tells you flat out that you're training that. Like, you know,   the same thing with, like, Christy and them. When they first started putting honey in their coffee, they hated it. They they did not like that at all. And now now if you give put hunt our sugar in Christy's coffee, she's like, what the fuck is this? A gas station coffee or something? Yeah. Well, the big part of life is to just allow yourself the time and head space to adjust because whatever  

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you adjust to, you will acclimatize   to. If tomorrow there's no sugar, everyone will get used to not having sugar.   I mean, for a few weeks or months, people will lose their minds and some people will stay stuck on it,   but mostly in a psychological way in my opinion. And then they'll seek out the last of the sugar. They'll pine and wish for sugar. But most people will be like, woah, that's over. You know, like, leaded gas. Like, we're not freaking out that we can't have leaded gas.   You know? It's gone. It used to be the only gas we had. We were used to it. You know? It's good it's good for combustion.  

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They say they've leaded gas for airplanes.  

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Avgas is leaded and, Yeah. Well, I'm not saying that leaded gas is bad. I'm saying we're   the process of imagining   whether or not we get a choice is long gone. And so you can do that to yourself and say, I no longer allow myself the choice of sugar. I don't want sugar. I'm removing it. Yeah. And then, eventually, when you go back   yeah. My grandma used to drink so much diet soda that I drink it, and you get addicted to diet Doctor Pepper or diet,   you know, you're drinking diet Mountain Dew and, I used to love that stuff. Now if I drink one I probably throw up it's so horrible and disgusting and weird but, you know, I used to drink 2 or 3 of them in a row when I was 12. Not that they were great. And regular soda tasted weird. I remember if I go to my friend's house and drink a regular,   Mountain Dew, it tastes weird.  

Diet.   Good. Where's my aspartame?  

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I used to drink a 12 pack of Mountain Dew, like, fucking every day. And then Hell, yeah.   And now all these years later, like, it was probably about 6, 7 years ago, I bought 2 Bundaberg sodas   because they had a blood orange soda, and it was with,   cane sugar and everything. And I'm just not used to that kind of sugar or anything. And I drank 2 pops, and I 3 in the morning, I was rolling back and forth, and then my fucking bad, like,   what is wrong with me?   I just get so much pain. I used to love rock stars.  

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Rock stars were so good. I got a pop machine for work to have rock stars in it, and I used to make, like And I forgot we had that machine in the corner. We would just pump those things. That's good for productivity.   I I haven't, like, had rock stars for, like, 4 years, but every 2 years, I buy 1, like, on a road trip. I'll buy 1, and I'll be like, oh, it looks so good. Then I won't even drink it. Like, I'm scared to drink it.   Like,   I'm not gonna like it. I don't know. I think I had one maybe a while back and   gross.  

It's gonna make me so sick.   Yeah.   Terrifying.   Your body gets used to not   it gets used to stuff, and you can tolerate it. Like, if you're eating Taco Bell,   like, all the time,   you don't get the diarrhea.  

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Yeah. Yeah. That's the trick. Just keep eating that. You gotta keep eating I tell that I tell that story, like, where my my great grandpa,   when he died,   it was literally because that the he quit getting arsenic.   Not giving him arsenic,   taking the shit away. He start when he went to the hospital, he started having seizures, and they sent somebody home to   check his pills. And the lady that was taking care of him was dosing him with arsenic. Oh, wow. And his body was handling that just fine. But when he went to the hospital and they quit giving it to him for a day, all of a sudden, the lack of arsenic is what fucking fucked him up. Well, I guess what he told him. Oh, no. It's it's common thing that happens with the the old people. Like, they go to the nursing home and then they get strict and say, well, they can't smoke cigarettes and have whiskey and and then the,  

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head nurse will come in and say, bullshit. They're gonna have their own little smoking area and they're gonna have their fucking shot of whiskey or they'll   die. Yeah. You know? And I mean, what you're talking about is even more severe because it's a it's a little bit more severe than whiskey when you're dealing with arsenic. You guys can keep the arsenic. Understand. Just give me that old lace.  

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Well, it it it's just it's just amazing what the human body can   incorporate into itself and then become dependent on you. Yep. It's an amazing filter.   Fuck. Yeah. We are fucking we are microevolution   machines.   You know? In no way is macroevolution   a thing, but microevolution,   your body will micro   evolve around things in an extremely short time period. Like, I get water  

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If I if I stuck to a strict vegetarian diet like, you, Ben, and you, Sean, I'd be sick.   I would get sick every day. I'd probably have diarrhea for a month   or 2 months.  

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We better test it out and see how long the diarrhea lasts. Then good luck having a hamburger.   I like meat.  

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Yeah. Christy gets sick if she doesn't eat meat.   And then I have to chew her out because she doesn't  

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That that meat is so expensive. I know. So how are the spiders  

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of weaving   evolving?   And where are we heading?   Where have we been?   We do have a podcast, so we're trying the audio archive stuff.   That's one way we're doing it.  

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That's how we're evolving?  

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I we're we're spreading our wings further, I guess,   trying it. I don't know if we made it to Rockfin tonight. We'll have to troubleshoot that. Didn't get any message. Make it to Rockfin? No. We're on Rockfin. Are we live on Rockfin?  

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Yeah. I see comments. Annie d said hi from West Arizona. Hi, Annie d. We love you. Maybe I just did it on you under my ink, under my cache,   my cookies. And didn't Spotify, just changed terms, and now can   take your material freely? I'm sorry. Be afraid. Yeah. There's no there's a number of comments in Pacific Northwest   360. Cheers, gentlemen, from Olympia, Washington.  

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Are we live?  

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Hell, yeah. 240 is live. Okay. I do see that. I do see Annie d there. Pacific Northwest 360.  

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Yeah. Cool. I did it right this week.  

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It was it was it was my technology. I mean, it's a title though. A  

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great show, you guys.  

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Yeah. Oh, what's the title?   I titled it,   because I don't know how to do it after the fact like you guys do. So I titled, like, don't fear the grim of America's.  

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Perfect.   That's great.  

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I remember when, when Ben was first, well, he was used to having Jared and then, Jared be gone, and the title would be, like,   27 or something. You know?  

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Well, there we are. I we so we are on Rockfin. That's   on Odin's Alchemy   on Rockfin. We'll have to get that link shared too.  

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Yeah. Sorry about last week, guys. Apparently, I I didn't know that I didn't get it on there last week. We could we could upload a video there if necessary.  

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Having the archive   is in is important so that  

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Redundancy.  

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Yes. But having it uploaded now   is great so we don't have to upload a 100 episodes   in the future   at some point.   So trying to   spread out the workflow as we're moving forward,   working as a team, doing the impossible things, keeping the dream alive, building that field for the angels in the outfield to for Lloyd to show up. He's been scrubbing toilets in the the,   courthouse  

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for so long.  

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Praise Lloyd. I praise Lloyd.  

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And, yeah, I I will get back to doing my own episodes   eventually. I just got too much shit going on. And   Springtime.  

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I know. I was thinking about flow state. Should we do a quarterly flow state? I would love to do a flow state once a month.   I think once a month might even be too often. Let's do a quarterly flow state and tell people Well, I got some a 100 hours to get it.  

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I got some real good ones for, flow state   actually, that I was actually just thinking about.   That's funny that you mentioned flow state because I was like  

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Got the books ready. Yeah. I'm I agree. Let's start a flow state back up here soon.  

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Yeah. I got keys to the kingdom of alchemy. That one's a real that one's a real good one. Oh, beautiful.   So this is,   basil Valentinius,   and it what it really basically is is it takes and it shows, like, the the   different,   alchemy,   illustrations and whatnot.   So then this one would be,   this that particular illustration that I just showed. It it says, meerkurious,   duplic   duplicatus,   aqua regia,   and or the butter of antimony   holding to Caducey.   So it breaks out to the more,   you know, the aqua regia is,   you know, just a form of acid. It's hydro Chloric and it's acid. It's   mixed, which is what you use because, like,   your platinum level elements are really hard to break down.  

They don't break down real well and even in acid. So aqua regia is like a super strong acid specifically for platinum level elements like gold and whatnot.   The exposed   swordsman in this picture   is representative   of the Islamic aqua regia.   And so this entire thing that is it's showing what this whole picture is, breakdown out chemically and what's supposed to happen in a laboratory and what all this represents.   So a pretty cool book.   The 12 keys of Basil Valentine.   A few other weird ones I've picked up that I thought would be real nice to read in that.  

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Cool.   We should probably get the probably the greatest author of all time to come and join us.  

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   Ask him what he thinks of these things. Jesus Christ?   Jesus Christ. Oh. Authors of all time. Obviously,   f Gardner.   Obviously, f Gardner is the greatest f. F Gardner.  

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Doors open any any Saturday that you're  

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you're ready to Wednesday or Saturday. Yeah. Or any any day of that matter. Oh, any any day. Red phosphorus  

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instead of chili powder on the constitution. They were probably trying to make shake and bake meth.  

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For for climate change for for the climate change.   We don't want the climate to change. We want the climate to remain the the same. I   I don't understand   what the climate's doing.   Is it man made climate change?  

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I'm passing these guys. Made. Oh, it's dudes that did it this time?  

[03:26:38] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, if you'd call those 2 guys dudes   Kind of. They did it.   Yeah. He's got his hands up. He's guilty of it. It's pain probably.  

[03:26:49] Unknown:

Why is it all if we type their names in extinction rebellion, they probably pop up.  

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I think they are part of   that group too. I didn't think they're red.   Oh, they're caught red handed against the constitution. You know,   if Nicholas Cage   hasn't said anything yet  

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uh-huh. Well, these cops are maxed.  

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Jinx, you owe me a rock star. I hope you're a rock star  

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on a Jim Morrison.  

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I gotta tell you, though, those 2 security guards did not look like particularly threatening in in any way, shape. Well, they escorted those guys over there and told the crowd to back up so the cameras could, set the lighting. You know, those big bright things that reflect the light versus the light with the diffusion filter on it, and they're like, alright. In 5, 4, 3.  

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Yeah.   Well and it's funny because all they did was, like, really, like,   you're pretending like this had any meaning whatsoever. They're just gonna clean the glass off.  

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They can't do anything. Yeah. You've got a snack. Yeah. I mean brought attention to climate change.  

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And in what climate   can you live wearing shorts and sandals without socks?   Your toe's gonna get cold sometime.  

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That's right. I assume that this is in New York, so they're hoping that the climate is getting, warmer because them jeezus sandals, they're not hanging out in the winter. The mask security guards are looking pretty pretty fashionable.  

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Philadelphia.  

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Mhmm.  

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It's all the At the real time, Seattle and socks.   No socks.   I don't know. I wear moccasins most of the time.  

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I love I love, slippers   when I can. Yeah. I love boots. Scrub in  

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the pool.   Boots or moccasins. Those are the only two options. Yeah.  

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Life's too short to be tying stuff up like the feet.  

[03:29:08] Unknown:

Life is horizontally challenged,   or is it vertically challenged?  

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It's smell is entry challenged.  

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Life doesn't lay down like Smell is entry?   What's that guy who got pinned down by the little people in that Swift novel? They live Gulliver Swift? Gulliver. Is it is it Gulliver who got pinned down to theirs? Is he causing climate change?  

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Gulliver?   Yeah. He got pinned down by my wife and her people.   The little.  

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Yeah.  

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Lilliputians?   I thought that was, like, a mini golf reference.  

[03:29:44] Unknown:

No. It's it's it's it's in reference to my wife and her family.  

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The Lilliputians.  

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Yeah. Lilliputians. That's a great Ben's not exactly a a towering basketball player of a man. I am I'm not. I'm not. I'm only I'm only 5 foot 9, just, you know, like, 5 foot 9, 5 foot 9 and a half, something like that. I'm I'm barely over average height, and their shower head hits me, like, right here.  

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Like, it's  

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a shower head. Like, they built the house custom, so it's built for all of them. For the Aleutians. Be like right here. I'm like, oh, great. It's a nipple wash. It's  

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Alan Marcus is a giant among men.   That camera is at   9 feet high right now,  

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and and he's over on top of it. Well, Alan Marks is about 64, isn't he? I had to kinda reach out to hug him. I think he's 715.  

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Yeah. Just call me Nephilim.  

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Yeah. Per Christy is perfect size because I'm not very big myself. I'm only 5 foot 9. So  

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So it's the most efficient way to be hygienically clean is just to have a a really tall barrel, and then you just dip yourself in and dip yourself out. Because a bathtub is maybe extravagant and a Jacuzzi is too big.  

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Is it an acid wash or like  

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a With or without jeans on?   A bleach?  

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Well, I know you really kinda wanna go more basic with the washing. That's why I use the lie. So then you got more of a basic   type thing. You don't really wanna go acidic.   You know, you get too much lye though. You use some good old lye soap and you get too much lie in one spot.   Oh, that's,   it got some hate to it. You don't wanna get that on your sack.  

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No, that's bad. It's bad ballet.  

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And the worst part is that's like the first part you go to wash. So you're like rub rub rub rub and then all of a sudden we hit you like, oh, fuck hotspot a lie.   Oh, somebody didn't mix the lie very well. Oh, that sucks.  

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I never made my own soap but that's a good idea.  

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Yeah. Mixing with   getting the light,   you know, evenly distributed is key.  

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That's what the Jesuits have been working on for years. Those   those geese by your house. You could probably make some really good soap with the goose fat if you harvested now Oh. Geese by your house. I made a joke about Jesuits getting the lie  

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even   spread.  

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They like the lies spread evenly.  

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But yeah. They use that fine screen, and they sift it out over, you know, just to North America, South America.  

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There's a plant in every group.   Some of them are aubergine.  

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That's aubergine. I know what that means.   It means eggplant.  

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Eggplants.  

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That's one I can't eat. I get the shits from that one. From eggplants?   Yeah.   I don't do well with nightshades.  

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Sunny side   up.  

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Yeah. Just nightshades, period. I don't do well with nightshades.  

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Nightshades are good.  

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Yeah. Tomatoes. They made me tickle.   I had a really nice egg egg salad sandwich in Reno one time.   And,   yeah, I don't think I made it to the outside of Reno. I wasn't even supposed to stay in Reno, and I end up staying in Reno. Like, nope.   Need a pool. Need a bowl now.  

[03:33:37] Unknown:

So where can we share more memes with each other?  

[03:33:41] Unknown:

On the Telegram. On the Telegram. I would think.   Be a great place to share some memes.   It's a fun place. It's a fun place.  

[03:33:55] Unknown:

So that's interesting with those guys. Basically, almost they had to make, like, a separate whole   thing in order to make any type of money because then their actual grim Erica doesn't do shit either. You know?   They they   once they had because, like,   that was fascinating. So, like, when I look,   you know, at my show and I look at, places where they put recommendations.   So this that's why it was so interesting when he was talking, like   Korean girl   changes her mini skirt.   Like, why the fuck would somebody watching that wanna watch a video of me doing alchemy afterwards? Like, that it makes zero fucking sense. Same thing.  

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Assume changes are magic.  

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Same. Same. Same.  

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It's true. Yeah.  

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So,   you know, once they started doing YouTube friendly videos, then all of a sudden YouTube magically starts putting them in front of people that wanna see their shit.  

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Right. And they were   talking to YouTube. Whoever   is a human at YouTube, they were probably getting direct emails sent back and forth, and they just had to keep pushing.   And that's kind of where we're at, where   we don't wanna leave YouTube. We don't wanna go to a private hangout place where it's difficult to find us when everyone's on YouTube and everyone's   chatting on YouTube.  

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It's where the action is.   You see that is like  

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show is way bigger than any of than we are in any way, shape, or form talk about this. Like, Sam Tripley,   he talks about how after he got banned from YouTube, it just basically is a strangle on his show. You almost have to have the YouTube there even if the   primary amount of,   content isn't on YouTube, you at least need the fishing line. You need a fucking, a fucking bobber in the fucking fit in the YouTube pool at the very least. And that's the same with Twitter and other social media. It seems if you don't have a presence there,  

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and you don't exist and people don't keep up with you.  

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It didn't look weird.   That is fun sized.   I married her. She my fun sized wife.  

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How's your dick down? This is downstairs.  

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I think mister fuzzy Lumpkins needs a YouTube channel.   Does mister fuzzy Lumpkins need Probably probably get to a 1,000 subscribers faster than we will and   all of our effort here.  

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He's for sure he would for sure get to a 1,000 faster than we would than we do.   Like I I am in shock at how much harder that is than it was.   I I think kinda wanna sub channel, like, 4 years ago or something, 4 or 5 years ago.  

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Here's our, QR code   for our YouTube channel.  

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Showing that I showing that to people watching our YouTube show is probably not   gonna get us a lot of extra traction.  

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Collect the phone that you're watching us. You guys can screenshot  

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this now. This is just like your opinion, man.  

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I've been saying they're already watching the YouTube.  

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We live in a digital world. No. No. Well, that was but he put that up there for the people that are on Rockfin.   Right.  

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We love Rockfin.  

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We love Rock fan. We love YouTube. We love   the grime Erica   gang.  

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That was a lot of fun. I I   I I wish,   Graham would have stuck around for a minute. I did wanna,   tell him that, you know, you know, my,   feelings about,   Bobatsky did in no way, you know, transfer to them. We we forgot to invite you on their program.  

[03:38:02] Unknown:

So now now we'll just invite you on their program and   make that happen   so you get some more one on one time with them.  

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I I have,   not really been doing any any,   interviews, but  

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I've kinda pulled back from that.   Winter's off is is a highly respectable   thing to do.  

[03:38:25] Unknown:

Well, I just had too much shit going on in life. You know? I mean slowed down.   Like,   you know, there's other stuff outside of the stuff that is public. Like, fucking I still don't have a vehicle. I have not I've left my farm once since October.   Like,   I still don't got a truck. Now I had to hire a guy. I had to hire an appraiser, which,   the insurance company originally came back and said my truck was worth 35100,   you know, and I told them to get fucked. And I've been telling them to get fucked for months.   They've worked their way up to 9,000,   and finally, I had to hire a independent appraiser, and the independent appraisers, like, your truck's worth over 24,000. So  

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That's a big difference.  

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Big difference.   And so now, you know,   we're going from there with it now, but they've been dicking me around and dicking me around real bad.   It's a pretty shit situation. And then, like, they they literally committed fraud,   just committed fraud, not even a little bit. They gave me a valuation   at for for $35100.   They told me my truck was worth, and then they told me that they called these 2 dealerships and talked to these 2 dealerships.   And the dealerships had told them you know, quoted them this.   Yeah. Those 2 in the other room? K.   And then so I called the dealership that they supposedly talked to, and it's like, you you're telling me you have a a f 250 with a 7.3 diesel in it for $35100.  

I wanna buy that fucker right now. That's 4 by 4. And the guy's like, what are you talking about? And they never even talked to the dealerships,   literally, either dealership.   They they totally made it up, totally made up the names, totally made up the the one guy they supposedly talked to with Jerry at the one dealership.   And the guy's like, I've worked here for 2 years. We don't have any Jerry, man. And nobody talked to these people.   Like, fuck. They just made this shit up. It's just, is Jerry's last name Mandarin?   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fucking   so the whole the whole thing has just been absolutely insane   from front to back. And then   when they and then it's hilarious because then when I'm arguing with them, they're like because I'm like,   I looked on the I alls I did was type my truck into the Googles. And I'm like, here's 2 ads, 3 ads, 6 ads for my truck. And I take screenshots   and send them to them.  

And they're like, oh, yeah. But the way the system works the law is I'm like, you guys aren't fucking following the law. You're fucking breaking it. That's why you committed fraud.   But now you're telling me you, you know, doing what's right is against the law. Fuck you. You fucking liar.   So I'm turning them into the Department of Insurance. I fucking forced them because they had 10 days to give me all the paperwork for these valuations.   And I had to fucking force it because then they told me they're like, oh, those valuations weren't no good. You don't want those. I'm like, the fuck I don't.   I fucking want them because I'm turning your asses in.  



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That's insulting to the legacy of a great truck who will be remembered  

[03:41:29] Unknown:

Yes. Always.   That's a phenomenal truck.   My hat off and put it over my heart.   Yes.  

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And they and they are gonna buy me a fucking new one. And now, like I said, next week   next week, I got somebody else on my side that's an expert. That's like, no. That truck's worth a lot.  

[03:41:52] Unknown:

Hey. Let's get a truck expert on the stream sometime. It's a great idea.  

[03:41:57] Unknown:

It's a great idea.  

[03:42:00] Unknown:

It'd be nice to talk about I if we're gonna do that, I think we need to make it a little bit more exotic and get, like,   a Romanian truck expert.   Right?   And then, you know, I didn't tell Or whatever. It doesn't have to be Romania. You know what I mean? It could be, like,   Hong Kong truck expert. That'd be pretty good. You know?  

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My my dream truck is a 7.3   Powerstroke diesel   4 by 4 dually. That's f 350, so it's got the full   second you know, 4 full doors.  

[03:42:33] Unknown:

That's I had a question for Gramerica that I didn't get to ask them today.   And that was,   did the shit already hit the fan?  

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Right.   I think it did. Question. I'm gonna bring him back and ask him. What should we do?  

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What are we doing? What should we all do?   No. It's a big question. But  

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That is a big question. And I do think the shit already hit the fan. We're we're already   deep deep in it, and, you know, that's part of why we don't notice. Like, was we're so caught up into it. You know, I think in in generations,   you know, to come, they're gonna look at us and be like, why didn't you guys do something? Like, how did you not notice?   Like, this crazy ass shit was happening and you guys, like, just let it happen?   You know, I I think we're gonna get looked on real harshly if we don't   start doing something.   And the whole thing is is while they wrote into the constitution   and whatnot, these things about overthrowing the government just like he was saying, that's on us, an educated,   competent   public   that was supposed to be responsible for that. We weren't supposed to just hand the keys over and go, do what you want. We were supposed to also   maintain. Like, it was basically, like, you know, like, when you were,   getting in fucking   driving school, the way the instructor had a little wheel and a fucking brake pedal on his side also.  

Like, this is the way it the system was supposed to run, like so we can go, no. No. We're not doing that.   And and yeah. Stop.   Yeah. We gave away the keys. We said, nah. You go ahead and drive. We we we feel like we should have a good enough representative   that we don't have to do this. And and we wanted to be lazy and you know this is where we end up at. And and it's where you're gonna end up every fucking time when you do that. If you are not   taking an active hand in your own course, don't expect it to go anywhere you want it to go.  

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Yeah. We trust you, instructor. I'm just gonna take a nap here for a minute.   You can drive me drive me to the place.  

[03:44:53] Unknown:

Yeah. Please. Yeah.   Jesus, take the wheel.  

[03:45:03] Unknown:

Leave Jesus a good review on Uber,   or is he a Lyft driver?  

[03:45:10] Unknown:

You know, I've I've I've heard that he listens well, but he crashes a lot. So, I mean, that's the reviews I was seeing on it.  

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He he can drive over the water   to deliver your packages. I think he works for for,   Amazon.  

[03:45:26] Unknown:

Do you have the duck boat?  

[03:45:29] Unknown:

Yeah.   Why not?  

[03:45:31] Unknown:

Yeah. Like, one of those James Bond cars you just keep going.  

[03:45:35] Unknown:

The Lotus.   Is it Esprit Lotus?   We could just let's just get James Bond on the stream. I got a lot of questions for the guy.  

[03:45:45] Unknown:

Yes. Book James Bond.  

[03:45:47] Unknown:

But, yeah, I woulda liked to have, fleshed out some of the I already reached out about a truck expert. We'll see how it goes.  

[03:45:54] Unknown:

Excellent. Cool. Nice.  

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Yeah. I I,   I would have liked to have fleshed out the occult talk so they understood my you know, I wasn't just being a shithead, you know, that there's a a substantial amount. Of course, it woulda helped if some other fuckers woulda backed me up a little bit. But   yeah.  

[03:46:11] Unknown:

I think you need to stick with this you should have backed me up thing for the rest of our time.  

[03:46:16] Unknown:

It's at least lasting for this show. Just gotta hear the beep. I'm gonna bring it up at least 1 or 3 more times in the coming weeks too. If you're backing up, we gotta hear the beeping sound so we know you're backing it backing it. Fuck no. It's gonna come out of the blue every time.  

[03:46:31] Unknown:

Every time. It's gonna come from inside your mind.