This episode will challenge Weaving Spiders listeners.
GLO on Red Pill, High Value Men, and Esoteric Wisdom... Economic Shifts in 4th Industrial Revolution... Intersection of Culture, Economics, and Kabalistic Texts!
#wsw 268 Lubricious GLO-UP Spider Pill-ers of WISDOM
Recorded Live on the last day of August 2024
Labor Day Weekend Special
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Video Version
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In this episode, we took a break from our hiatus to bring you an intriguing conversation with our mysterious guest, GLO.
Known for his controversial yet insightful perspectives, GLO delves into the intricacies of the men's red pill and PUA (pick up artist) communities.
Spiders discuss his book, 'Pillars of Wisdom,' filled with symbolism, astrology, and esoteric knowledge.
GLO shares his experiences and challenges in the manosphere, his views on economic and cultural shifts, and his thoughts on the evolving definitions of what it means to be a high-value man. Also covered: Globalization, the role of different cultures in the modern world, and the importance of symbolic literacy. The intersections of culture, economics, and esoteric wisdom, offering a unique perspective that challenges conventional thinking.
Spiders explore the significance of symbolic literacy and how understanding symbols can open up a richer, more nuanced view of the world. GLO's book, 'Pillars of Wisdom,' serves as a focal point for much of the discussion, offering a blend of academic rigor and practical advice.
Audio recorded live Saturday nights and streamed to:
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https://serve.podhome.fm/episodepage/weaving-spiders-webs/268
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(00:01:18) Pre-show Rituals and Sound Check
(00:13:13) Music Intro End Begin Feature Presentation
(00:16:01) Red Pill Community and Censorship
(00:25:12) psychoanalysis is built on Mysticism
(00:33:03) Cultural and Religious Influences on Dating
(00:33:53) Chabad has decided that esoteric secrets can be available to the masses
(00:39:25) September 11th was an occult ritual
(00:49:01) Economic Systems and Masculinity
(00:51:15) Prostitution and the Manosphere
(00:58:55) What it means to be a man is contingent upon the greater economic system
(00:59:25) 4th Industrial Revolution and Conservatives going down with the ship
(01:02:03) Controversial Topics and Pushback
(01:03:43) Don't put MonsterTruck tires on a Toyota (Know Thyself)
(01:07:31) Social Structures are the most Malleable during periods of chaos
(01:12:22) "the red pill" meaning changed over time
(01:16:03) Homesteading and Government Control
(01:17:53) Andrew Tate takes over
(01:19:59) Controlled Demolition of the United States
(01:22:04) Homesteading and How does the Government 'quilt you'
(01:23:51) Water Governance and Lawfare vs. kinetic warfare
(01:27:22) James Bond 007 movies?
(01:30:06) Predictive Programming and demoralization
(01:33:01) NASA, Space Warfare, Flatearth
(01:42:32) speed, dating, and Grittiness
(01:45:39) Millennials damaged from hookup culture
(01:50:03) Women and corporations (bailouts?)
(01:52:22) Jewish Heritage and Religious Practices
(02:03:21) The J's have high verbal 1Q, are prone to language games
(02:09:35) Exchange Value Vs. Use Value
(02:12:01) Tarot Cards
(02:17:09) Tarot, Kabbalism, and Mysticism
(02:22:23) ymbolism, Exoteric/esoteric within content (GLO's writing)
(02:25:18) Eat or Be Eaten
(02:28:35) Kojeve, Hegel, Master/Slave dialectic
(02:33:25) Transhumanism
(02:39:28) Indian (Dot not Feather) Tech Support Bros
(02:46:37) Globalization and Cultural Integration
(03:00:01) Closing Remarks and Future Plans
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Unknown:
What is December 2, 6 What's
[00:00:05] Unknown:
up, guys? I, realized we're on hiatus, so we're not really here. We're not here. We had, we had a special guest that, we've been waiting on for a minute, and he became available. So while we're on break, we, took a break from our break to speak speak with this fine gentleman. Glow, g l o. I'm not sure exactly how you want that pronounced. Just call me Glow. Glow. Top right of the list. Yeah. Perfect. Yeah. Just do that. Glow. Okay. So we're gonna have this real interesting discussion, and, Yeah. We'll see you guys at Flattoberfest other than that.
[00:00:54] Unknown:
We're also on Rockfin. Oh. Rockfin.com, Odin's Alchemy. We're all sounding real good.
[00:01:16] Unknown:
Okay. Perfect. Sounding good.
[00:01:18] Unknown:
We're good. We'll get we'll get to know each other after the introduction, but we have a thing where we do the pre the PSP, the pre show poop, so we let it all out. Okay. We send up our balls, empty everything out, and then we're in for the long haul. I think they call it raw dogging it. Okay. Or we're gonna lube up for some action tonight. It's our friend John's song.
[00:01:49] Unknown:
Okay. So come back in 10 minutes.
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We're gonna stay here.
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Gap.
[00:01:56] Unknown:
That she recognized. After she sat in Ijja. She came and sat right beside you. Totally surprised you. Open stay away, stay away, stay away. Shit, I slipped and once turned it straight. The bunnage it hypnotized my eyes I couldn't see straight. Shit was like the wolves, I don't know how I got away. Went in for one trip and got trapped in that place. It'll get you wick, you let it bare skin. Not thinking. This time it really felt like sin because I was in the doctor's office tripping because I can't get enough of the pussy whipping but the shit could really have you slip in the Venaja. Respect the cock.
And tame the cunt. Yeah. Tame it. Take it on head first with the skills that I will teach you at work and say no. No. You will not control me. No. No. You will not take my soul. No. You will not win this game.
[00:03:47] Unknown:
Women are stupid, and I don't respect them. That's right. I just have sex with them. Show me your genitals. Your genitals. What? Show me your genitals. Genitelion. What? Respect the cock. Show me your genitals. Your genitals. What? Show me your genitals. The genitalium. You're talking to me about stuff. Why? I'd rather see your titties. Now you're talking about other stuff. Why? I'd much rather see your titties. I can't have sex with your personality, and I can't put my penis in your college degree, and I can't shove my fist in your childhood dreams. So why are you sharing all this information with me? It's not sexist because I'm saying it in a song. That's right, bitch. Now take off your thong and show me your genital. Should I do it?
[00:04:41] Unknown:
What's up again, guys? You wanna take this? I'm gonna do it.
[00:04:49] Unknown:
I'm gonna come.
[00:04:58] Unknown:
Your genitals. Your genitals. Oh. Join your genitals. Your genitalia. Knock knock. Who's there? It's me wondering why you're not naked. Knock knock. Who's there? Me again. Still wondering why you're not naked? I wanna see your bum. I don't care what you say. No. I don't have feelings because feelings are gay. Something something in the month of May. Bitches love my penis because it's really big. Girls' brains are much stupider than men's are, so they should always listen to us because we're smart. Women are only good for 3 things, cooking, cleaning, and vagina. Show me your genitals.
Your genitals. What? Show me your genitals. Show me your genitals. Your genitals. What? Show me your genitals. I'm
[00:05:49] Unknown:
the one who says yes. Yeah. No. No. Now. Now.
[00:05:55] Unknown:
Here. Live now.
[00:06:04] Unknown:
Because it's universal, man.
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It is evolution. It is animal.
[00:06:13] Unknown:
Oh, Jerry would've loved it.
[00:06:17] Unknown:
We Yeah. There's no other problems. From men.
[00:06:26] Unknown:
Why did my penis cross the road?
[00:06:30] Unknown:
To get to the other vagina.
[00:06:33] Unknown:
Vagina. Vagina. I wanna have sex with your vagina. Vagina. Vagina. E equals mc vagina.
[00:06:47] Unknown:
Do you recognize
[00:06:48] Unknown:
her? The Vaniaja. After you sat in Ida? The Vaniaja. You came and sat right beside her. Totally surprised her. The gym is saying make her nipples rise. Now you're oh, knock, oh, knock, oh, knock, oh, no, I'm on time like a clock. I tick and I talk when the Vania flock like some absurd bird that I heard of in the 3rd year of my life. At preschool food, the madcap and Jay Roman Macon sitting on a 1 footstool. Then again in 4th grade at Larky Pool, thinkin' we was cool. Not knowin' any rules, spittin' game as it came. Not thinkin' about the fame, no not no notoriety. Now I'm the bigger DOG because I saw the moon, and I would like to know it because I love you the truth. I came some sharp ass too. Now I'm a whore wolf wondering what happened. Keep rapping. Gotta be macking, slippin' my neck, sacking in the butt crack while she's laying on the back. And I'm attacking like a white man with newfound territory. If you give it, I'm a take it without feeling sorry. But I give it back. You can't believe that, Jill. You can go find Jack and give it to him on the hill because I know what you're about. I'm sure we'll meet again. Look, the nice it's best to have as a late night friend. Love is for girls Load, load Chloe's website into the comments. Put it on the 3 markets. Ways. Either you have sex with me or you have sex with me. With me. With me. With me. With me. Or with sex with me.
[00:08:18] Unknown:
I have really good sex moves that I Absolutely gorgeous book that you can find at this website
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on the screen.
[00:08:27] Unknown:
Tiger and I feed on vagina. Vagina. Vagina. I wanna have sex with your vagina. Vagina. Vagina. What time is it? It's vagina.
[00:08:44] Unknown:
She realized that she recognized her. She sat and I jumped. She came and sat right beside you. She That should be
[00:09:57] Unknown:
Too big, too small, size does matter after all. Too gross, to climb Too short, too tall, doesn't matter one size fits all. Zugos, zuglein, des schlakbombsalter, Obenzein, schoonesweillein, jostavmer,
[00:12:56] Unknown:
You get Lacan's point. Fantasies
[00:12:59] Unknown:
have to be unrealistic
[00:13:01] Unknown:
because the moment, the second that you get what you seek, you don't you can't want it anymore. Respect. In order to continue to exist, desire must have its objects perpetually absent. It's not the it that you want. It's the fantasy of air cock. So desire supports crazy fantasy.
[00:13:27] Unknown:
And now we're pleased to bring you our feature presentation.
[00:13:36] Unknown:
That that was like the speech hall right there at the end. Like Yeah. That's the end of the most,
[00:13:44] Unknown:
interesting introduction in a long time. Thank you, Alan Marcus Allen, I assume. We wanna welcome, all clear. Thanks for waiting for us, man. We are live now. We couldn't clear the rundown gang,
[00:13:57] Unknown:
so we had to get our friend John to write us a song from 2,006. Nice. The website is pillars of wisdom. Go there now. And we are joined by a very special guest, Glow, a man of mystery. You're on mute, brother. I'll unmute you here.
[00:14:23] Unknown:
Okay. I'm good.
[00:14:24] Unknown:
Hi, Eric. I can hear you. Welcome to your Okay. Thanks for having me on. We are ready to have some fun tonight. You've got a very interesting book. Jim has a copy he'll hold up. It's a hardcover book for those who love occult books, and we love all types of occult books. It's a beautiful hardcover book.
[00:14:45] Unknown:
Thank you so much. This thing is something got illustrations in there. Some of those pictures are just fire, bro. Like, the one with the 2 water with the 2 water beasts. That thing is fantastic.
[00:14:58] Unknown:
I had a whole art team, and I really pushed my people really hard to, bring out the highest quality of this book in it. It's a labor of love, and it was a lot of hard, hard work, both on the writing side and on the artistic side. Thank you so much. This is
[00:15:12] Unknown:
incredible book, and you'll wanna order a couple copies now. It's gonna be it's difficult to get your hands on it. The only way to get it is print on demand as far as I understand.
[00:15:22] Unknown:
I've been a victim of censorship for a long, long time. So, I think print on demand is the safest way for me to get my book out, until I get my, my printing going in Europe and here in North America. So
[00:15:36] Unknown:
Beautiful. So this is the first edition, and we love 1st edition books, rare books, hard to get. You wanna have a few copies on your shelf, pass them down, give them to your sons, your granddaughters, give them up to all the kids. It's good education, good pictures. What really inspired you to, write these down in a hard copy? Your articles were shared on places like Reddit, and then they were removed.
[00:16:01] Unknown:
So I started writing for the red pill. It's a controversial anti feminist community. And hold on. So it's a controversial, anti feminist community, and there's there's different let's say, there's there's different, genres within the red pill. Some of it's more advice. Some of it's more political. The manosphere, it's a place where men go to exchange, figure out dating advice, became politicized in 2013 after, gamergate. And so What? Gamergate. There was, gamergate is the scandal where one of the, I forgot her name, but, basically, she was being paid to, she was being given bribes to give unfair ratings,
[00:16:58] Unknown:
for video games. It was a big thing then in the gaming gaming community. It kind of enlivened all of the people that were just laying back playing video games to be like, hey. Fuck this. We're not gonna just lay back anymore. We're offended. We're pissed off, and it's a pretty severe tipping point. Is that 2013? Was it that long ago? Yeah. It's it's 2013. So so what happened was there was occupy Wall Street in, like, 2010.
[00:17:21] Unknown:
And then from there, to distract the left from attacking the big banks, they pushed SJW feminism. And then later, there was gamergate, And that's what really politicized, a lot of people who just didn't really care about politics or culture. And, I came in, I was a board law student, and I just wanted to write. And I came into this anti feminist space, and I wanted to write. I I didn't really care about promoting anything. I just wanted to write the best articles, and I saw dating as an extension of sociology and economics and religion.
And I I got into political fights and I fought everyone on the red pill because most of them are just trying to make a quick buck They're trying to blame women for all of their problems and they don't understand economic causality, and they definitely don't understand what you guys talk about is religious or spiritual causality. So as I started pushing these deeper topics, like basic sociology, basic economics, when I started getting deleted by Reddit, like the highest levels of Reddit. And then later I started getting deleted by the admins because, you know, they don't have what you guys have of a willingness to read books, a willingness to dig, a willingness to figure out, the the core. Right?
So I I kind of pushed my stuff uphill for 10 years, while everyone was starting to delete it, and I had my own core audience, and I had my own community. But at the end of the day, all of my writings was behind walls and censorship, and so I thought the best way for me to avoid this censorship is to push my book out. And, once my book's in your hands, no one can take it from you. No one can censor it. And once I get my printing presses up, I have a printing press, in Athens, and I might get one in Mexico. They're not gonna be able to censor me. So, you know, I've I've had I've had PhD dissertations written against me. I've had a feminist do performances against me. So there's very strong forces, trying to censor me primarily because of sociology and economics.
But once, let's say, my new, mystical theory start getting pushed out, I'm sure I'll get religious pushback too.
[00:19:47] Unknown:
We definitely like to hear about those. That that that's a interesting subject, and, we're primarily, in a cult type show. The weaving spiders are. And, so that sounds like a very interesting subject.
[00:20:05] Unknown:
Okay. So, you know, one of the things that I wanna expose people to is a symbolic literacy. Right? So, I know there's different opinions on a lot of different things, but symbolism is its own language. And if you go into a church, if you go into a mosque, if you regardless of which religion you look at, it's filled with symbolism. And there's there's rituals. There's an extensive language taking place that's trying to engage with you at the subconscious, unconscious level. And I think one of the easiest starting points is to learn tarot. It's to learn numerology. It's to learn alchemy.
It's to learn astrology and figure out how all of those things come together. Right? And, one of the things my book has multiple layers, but as you guys know, you guys are literate symbolically. My book is filled with astrology and every one of my chapters has an astrological alchemical designation. So something that's about rules or restriction, you're gonna see Saturn and Capricorn, duality. You're gonna start seeing Gemini. And for me, by, you know, you can say my book is a tarot deck. I can start teaching people that language. So when it starts getting flashed in the Super Bowl or whatever the magicians behind the United States decide to do, at least common people can have some understanding and have some acclimation.
So that that was that was my thinking. That that's, I guess, that's one main thing. I I think as things start getting crazier and crazier, and if you see all the symbolism, in music videos and in movies, the more of that symbolism you know, the more you know what, let's say some dark magicians are gonna be doing in the future. So I think I I know some people have different views on religion. That's okay. And I'm not here to push any view here, but what I wanna say is are you? I'm the most controversial religion.
[00:22:25] Unknown:
What's that?
[00:22:26] Unknown:
It's the it's the Jewish religion.
[00:22:29] Unknown:
Oh, no shit.
[00:22:31] Unknown:
Yeah. Wow.
[00:22:33] Unknown:
Yeah. So So what what what branch of do you see that coming?
[00:22:37] Unknown:
Oh. The rabbit? Or Yeah. I like well, so my experience right now has been, Chabad is is very welcoming in terms of making sure that you're observant in terms of Sabbath and that you, as a Jew, don't break your religious obligations that you're you're tied into, that you, you know, you know, my people made a covenant with God, and there's a pact and if you don't follow that pact, you're not gonna live a good life. So they're helpful in making sure that. You know you're within, let's say the pack that we as a people are in but in terms of mysticism, they're you know I've been talking to them and they're they're not helping.
They're not helping at all. They're not giving me anything and. I don't know. I've been looking through the Zohar. The there's a new translation from, Stanford University. I don't know if you guys are familiar. It's called the the Pritzker edition. So if you wanna learn Kabbalism, that's look. I'm not a Kabbalism expert. I'm I'm just starting to dig. So I don't wanna go outside of my expertise, but, there's a lot of interesting stuff on Libgen. Yeah. And in terms of Kabbalism, I'm in a position of digging, and I'm in a position of, within the Jewish prayers, figuring out the Kabbalistic attributions or which spheres they're calling upon in every, prayer.
But by no means, do I have,
[00:24:23] Unknown:
a depth of knowledge in that field. You know? Right. You haven't been practicing for a long, long time and have it all memorized and everything as far as the kebab.
[00:24:32] Unknown:
What brought me to Kabalism is in the red pill, there's a lot of flawed, Matt, and they they have a lot of problems. And in order for me to work with them and understand what's going on, I figured out psychoanalysis. And from there, I figured out Lacanian psychoanalysis, which is Freudian psychoanalysis plus linguistics. But as I started digging within those psychoanalysts,
[00:24:56] Unknown:
and then name? Lacan.
[00:24:59] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. He's a French psychoanalyst that, combines, linguistic theory with psychoanalysis. So there's a little bit of Europe, Sean.
[00:25:08] Unknown:
I think I've heard his name. I think he's here, but in Europe, he's huge.
[00:25:12] Unknown:
He's Okay. In America, they do ego psychology where they just tell everyone to be more confident and repress, and, basically, what you see in these, American managerial guides, whereas Europe has a deeper psychoanalytic theory. But the point I wanna get to is as I started digging through psychoanalysis, and especially Hegel, I started sensing that there was something religious behind it, and there's something that they were leaving out. And until I started digging in religious texts, I could never get to the bottom of it. And once, I don't know if you guys are familiar of, Lacan's graph of desire. It's very similar to the Kabbalistic tree. Right?
So for me, I started off in a non religious psychoanalysis, but to really, really get to the bottom, you have to figure out what gave birth to it, and it's probably Kabbalism. So, once I exhausted psychoanalysis, I want to dig deeper, and at some point, you're gonna have to cross the threshold into mysticism. And that's that's right where I'm starting to right now. And when I did that, I guess a lot of my team flipped out on me, because it was it was psychologically or spiritually too much for them. Maybe maybe they weren't meant to have this knowledge, and as you guys probably know, some of this information is jarring.
So so that so I I guess where I wanna warn, maybe your your listeners is that when you share truly occult information, you will know because you're gonna receive severe pushback. And it it doesn't have to be anything too controversial. Maybe you're gonna be explaining, Pythagorean numerology or some something light. You're already gonna start getting, getting fought on it, I guess.
[00:27:13] Unknown:
Yeah. I'd say that makes sense, you know, that because you take people, you know, people whether they realize it or not, I would say that their main fear and discomfort is the unknown. That's why we see so many people being willing to repeat negative patterns. And so if you take them into the genuine unknown, not just kind of a vaguely unfamiliar area, but truly unknown space, they kinda get triggered and freak out usually. You know?
[00:27:38] Unknown:
Yes. There's there's religion and there's mysticism. Right? And in religion, you try and help people by giving them a source of comfort. So maybe someone died, maybe some there's some kind of tragedy, and the priest class is there to help people stabilize, and they're also there to help governments stabilize their people regardless of if it's a good government or a bad government. Priest class stabilizes the people. In mysticism, it's kind of like a PhD program. You're you're digging for the truth, and you're gonna start finding things that are unsettling and you don't know how to quilt.
And, some people aren't meant for that knowledge, and, emotionally, they don't have they don't have that. And they're gonna lash out on you because you're the closest person. You're the person who's causing the emotional discomfort. So,
[00:28:39] Unknown:
sounds like a dark night of the soul moment.
[00:28:42] Unknown:
I I guess.
[00:28:44] Unknown:
Well, the terms you're gonna find to explain what you're, talking about is esoteric versus exoteric. Exoteric is for the masses because the masses can't really conceptualize the higher meanings of things, but they also need to be included in the, base understanding so that way it gets carried on. You see this in a lot of, mythological stories where orally the tradition was passed on and it needs to be somewhat entertaining. So that way the common mind can carry it, but hidden inside of that is the esoteric meanings, which have a much higher value that only certain minds are gonna go and seek out.
[00:29:25] Unknown:
Yes. So one of the things that you're gonna find in the bible, and I had a a Catholic friend really lash out on me, is, some of the scholars have figured out which energies are behind every event in the bible. So there's there's a, almost a programming language behind every verse in the bible, and you can see, like, why did Cain come into being? Why did Abel come into being? And I'm not at a level of fluency or understanding to really understand what's going on in those texts that I purchased. But it it's interesting for me that they've been able to peel back that layer and and see the source code.
So have oh, right here. I don't know if you guys know. It's called, gates of verses, and it's it's very advanced stuff. It's by the Arizal, and it it breaks down, Genesis. And every, when God created the world in 7 days, which, let's say, programming language commands, he made, he utilized. And then from there, you can start tracing those energies. Later on, in Kabbalism, which I completely don't know or fully understand yet, the the big part of cobblism is how to make a golem. Right? How can you, animate a a clay being into a living entity?
Among us. And the the theory behind that, like, where does that come from? It's if you understand how God created Adam, if you understand that process, you can utilize that process allegedly
[00:31:30] Unknown:
into creating a goal. Our friend, Juan Ayala, is the, human how do you say? Human colleges.
[00:31:39] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. So so all of the magic that you see or a lot of it, is present in the bible in a coded way, and then it could later be, reappropriated and regardless of whether that's a positive or a negative way. That's a separate thing. But theurgic magic is is magic that originates, from the Bible. And so, you know, I think regardless of whether you're Catholic, or you're Jewish at the highest level, your religious authority or, your clergy will have that knowledge. They're not gonna share it with you. But if you dig on Amazon, maybe you can buy some books that will point you in the right or maybe the very wrong direction.
[00:32:34] Unknown:
So interesting that this book you held up is available on on Amazon. So there's there's some books that seem to be available. Your work has been removed. You've posted free on Reddit. No charge. And you've you've joined the community, and you've asked for people to join in with your work. And this was when did you start doing this on Reddit? About 10 years ago? Yeah. So I started in 2013,
[00:33:01] Unknown:
and I just wanted to fight in the culture war. Mhmm. And the the the more I pushed into the culture war, the more I started seeing, okay. Like, yes. There's big money, but behind the big money, there is, a religious occult practice. Mhmm. And there's an attempt to, bring people down in terms of their souls so they're further from God. And I didn't have the vocabulary to understand what was going on, so I started digging, and through a combination of, Anna's archive, YouTube, buying books on Amazon, I put together this library here and other books to understand what was going on. That's one thing to kinda comment on what you're saying is from my understand keep in mind, I'm not, by any means, a a scholar, so I could be wrong. Don't quote me.
Chabad believes that the the age of the messiah is close. And because of that, a lot of texts, which were only in Hebrew or Aramaic, are being translated now and are available for consumption because they say, we're in the messianic era. All bets are off. Sure. So the book that I held up, Gates of Verses, is a super secret book that was burnt by the Spanish inquisition that would never be available in plain English even, let's say, 40 years ago. So now is a really good time to start buying these books and reading these books. You know, if, you know, if that aligns with your values, I'm not know, trying to impose anything or any religion. But I'm just saying right now, it is available, because high up from what I understand, a rabbinic ruling was made saying that all bets are off.
Let it out.
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So in Christianity, there's the idea of the the apocalypse, the end times, the apocalypse being like an unveiling of information, like, the veil removed from the eyes to see. Do you think that the information that's being published now and made available to everyone has to do with this idea of the apocalypse and revealing otherwise hidden information?
[00:35:27] Unknown:
The way I understand it is when there's a lot of veils. Mhmm. Right? And you can think of God as an infinite power supply, and and you're like a light bulb at the end. And as you get closer to God, you can absorb more electricity. So you're you're actually protected from these veils, and these veils give you, the ability to experience free will. Because if you were in the presence of God, he would just overpower you with his energy. Now when you approach the apocalypse, there's gonna be greater energy fluctuations, and you're gonna start seeing things that, really challenge your free will because, well, if if I can see a miracle, then I I don't have the freedom to be an atheist. Right? I I kinda gotta go with it.
So, one is one is this. The other thing, from what it feels like, is there's a, like, a decline in literacy, so they just kinda gotta get it out. And I think it feels like they're confident that you're not gonna be able to piece it together, so fuck it. You know? Mhmm.
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But Are you feeling like it's somewhat revelation of the method also?
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No. Because it's it it's just all coded. Like, if it was revelation of the method, I feel like it would be a lot more obvious. And here, it's like, here's the 10 spheres. How the here's how they interact. It's still heavily coded. You you have to approach it almost like a chemist. If you wanna figure it out, like, get 10 of your smartest dudes together and pound through it. So they're not revelation of the method seems to be like a Super Bowl situation, whereas here's a text that was, you know, in some, like, bizarre Aramaic dialect in the 1600, then it was then it was translated into English for academic study.
And then through that, it leaked to us, the nonacademics and the nonclergy.
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So in
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sorry. So in your ecological studies and, you know, all of this, when you're talking about, excuse me, how it seems to be there's an underlying religious context behind all of it. This is the particular religion that you you found, or this is the one that you chose and you're seeing it in places?
[00:38:05] Unknown:
You know? Well, there's there's okay. So there's little confusion. So I'm, racially, I'm born Jewish. I got this Middle Eastern beard, and so and so that's that's my religion. With regards to, let's say, the stuff you see in the Super Bowl, there is a inverted perverse Judaism. It's called Sabbatean Judaism. There's Sabbatai Zevi. I'm sure you know. He is a heretic messiah of the year 1666. And, the the the stuff that you see in eyes wide wide shut originated from him.
[00:38:44] Unknown:
Right. I I can recognize that. I mean, in your personal studies, when you say, you know, I see this, is that what you're referring to? You're referring to, you know, the satanic church that we can all kinda see is underlying our economic structure, or are you looking at the economic structure and seeing another thing as being a deeper underlying religion?
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I I see. So there's a Those
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are branches of the same bird at some point. Right? Right. So there's there's a there's a Sabatianism.
[00:39:10] Unknown:
There's probably some kind of Neo Sabatianism, which I don't have all the theory on, and we only see glimpses. And I think it's it's probably influencing the Federal Reserve from their national structures. Right? But there's things you know, a lot of people don't know this, but the front of my book is September 11th. Surprise. Because for me, that's the big wake up call. Because when you understand that September 11th was the largest occult ritual in our lifetime and that there's specific numerology involved in it, once I saw that, I was like, okay. Well, if they're doing rituals on a big level,
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I need to understand the language of that. Where were you on September 11th? And that that happened in 2001?
[00:39:57] Unknown:
Like, in a in a middle school, I guess. Betraying Pokemon cards. Yeah. Yeah. So
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Well, yes. Then I guess I guess what I'm really getting at is, you know, if you're trying to understand the language then, are you studying that Saboteism,
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that that Satanism? It's it's hard. So So
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Or is it the root that you're getting at? Are you starting at the very beginning up until it splits off? I
[00:40:27] Unknown:
which is Lurianic Kabbalism, which Yeah. Which is Lurianic Kabbalism, which Yeah. And before Lurianic Kabbalism, there's the Zohar, and then before that, there's, like, the Bahir. So there's a lineage, and at some point, that lineage breaks off into Sabbatean Sabbateanism, which was excommunicated out of Judaism. There's Nathan of Gaza, who was Zevi's, I I guess, big writer. And but in order to understand him, you have to understand Lurianic Kabalism, which I don't. And I I'm suspicious I'm gonna have to learn Aramaic to really get anywhere on it.
So, you know, in my book, like, I understand basic astrology, alchemy, and tarot, but to really get into the Kabbalism, I I have to learn Aramaic, and I have to understand the Bible on a much deeper level because when they speak, they speak through metaphors. And unless you know the metaphors, you're gonna be completely lost. So it's Yeah. That's what I'm finding.
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That answers my question. Thank you. Yeah. I I feel like,
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you know, there's people who are born into those families, and they just get it for free. And the other thing is what I understand about mainstream Judaism or at least Kabbal Judaism is they just don't talk like, if you go up to a Kabbal rabbi and you're like, okay. Like, tell me about the Sevii guy, and they're like, well, he invented his own religion, and that's that. Or, you know, if you get too close to mysticism, you can get pulled into heresy. And a lot of, I think, like, the Bahir says that and stuff like that. I I might have gotten that wrong, but that the idea that if you get spiritually too high and you use these meditative techniques to talk to angels, there's a chance you're gonna die, and there's a chance that you're gonna be pulled off into heresy.
So that's so but, you know, people are like, you know, the Jews to Jews, as a Jew and as someone who's speaking with people who, are high up, either they I I feel like they legitimately don't know, and I've been digging for that. They just they don't know, and it's it's at a higher level. And I I think the people who probably know this, my opinion, I think it's an uninformed opinion. I've been told there's secret Jewish texts that the Catholics have, and a lot of them speak very good Hebrew. So it's it's somewhere there. So it's it's kind of like maybe there's, like, a classification system. Right? And you know that some presidents have the rank to see it and some don't. Like, you know that people like Donald Brumsfeld and Dick Cheney and Bush senior, had access, or I was told, to whatever, but people like, let's say, Trump, didn't.
So there's some kind of secret rankings up up above. That's what it feels like to me. And so the the in person route, it's not really yielding results. And so I have a team of people who dig through books. And, the same way that I figured out psychoanalysis and, like, psychoanalysis in Duluth, I'm hoping with, enough people and enough reading, we can pierce the veil at some point. But I I think it's gonna take me 3 to 5 years.
[00:44:35] Unknown:
So we started with Red Pill Talk on Reddit about, you know, 10 years ago or so. They have all sorts of, vernacular and jargon and things, one of them being MGTOW, men going their own way. Did you go MGTOW to then read these books, to then write a book?
[00:44:52] Unknown:
Well so one of this is something I'm gonna advocate to you guys. If you get popular, if you do good to a lot of people, you're gonna have the privilege of speaking to high level people. Right? So in my heyday of the red pill, if I wrote an article, 60,000 people would see it. And then I always had an open door policy of come talk to me. Maybe I can help you. And so from there, I started talking to military officers, high level bankers, politicians, lawyers. And through those conversations, they started pointing me in that direction. And that's that's how I started going deeper and deeper, and that's how I knew where to look. With regards to MGTOW, that's mostly for men who, got divorced. They got burned on a marriage, and they don't believe in marriage within an American context.
For me, I never had those problems. I personally, you know, did did well with women. I I grew up in the gym. I, managed a gym, so I always had the speaking ability, and the and the presence. But for me, what was interesting is, you know, when Indian men would call me or when African American men would call me or when Asian American men would call me, for me, the challenge was, okay. Well, how do I get laid as an Asian? How do I get laid as an Indian? Right? It's it's it's playing the game on a much higher difficulty. Right? So so I went through and I studied psychoanalysis to figure out what is the process.
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Are you meeting in their own countries? So you're doing it culturally specific, or do you mean in our country?
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Both. So sometimes how to get you know, like, what does it mean to be a Chinese in Vietnam, or what does it mean to be a second generation Asian? It's it's like spawning into a different level. Right? And you you call these people and you try and figure out, okay, like, what are the critical points. Right? It's it's it's like a role playing game, but you're playing with somebody else. Clarify for people, Glo, that,
[00:46:58] Unknown:
I'm pretty sure you're talking about your coaching business. Right? Like, you were making it you were getting enough traction with online presence. You're you're are you still coaching people now? I'm still coaching people now. And Right. So yeah. Just so so the audience understands, you know, that it's not just articles and writing. It's also offering a coaching offer to help people hold their frame, level up whatever language people wanna use to do that. So where my coaching business is different
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is a lot of people have a very high price point, because they just wanna get as much money as possible. For me, like, I'm an academic. I'm an intellectual, so I wanna get to know my people. And, you know, my book is controversial because it talks about dating within the context of race, like Indian man, Asian man, because that's mostly who came to me. And because my prices are lower than my competition, I had more time with my clients, and I was able to understand them better. So when you when you read my book, you're gonna see a lot more depth because I spoke to Indians, let's say, for 300 hours.
Right? Right. And and, really, for me, my grand grandfathers were very accomplished writers, and so I wanted to outwrite them. That was kind of like a personal challenge for me. So if you wanna be a good writer, your writing has to be detailed. It has to be specific. And by pulling all this information in through my coaching business, I was able to write with depth and clarity. So I guess I guess there's that. And then the other thing with regards to coaching is sometimes I would talk to people who have a crisis of faith. Right? So let's say there's a Muslim who has a crisis of faith or a Hindu has a crisis of faith. Right?
I did my best to figure out their religion and try and put them back on what I believe is their track. You know, whatever God made them to be, that's I don't believe in pulling anyone off of that track. So how do you make a Hindu a better Hindu? How do you make a Muslim a better Muslim? And, you know, I read the book of our Gita. That's interesting, and I see elements of that, in Kabbalism. I think there's a, I think I don't wanna say who got inspiration from who, but it definitely rhymes. If you look at a Hindu system or a Jewish system, there's definitely similarities.
I know if Jews heard this, they'd flip out. They'd say, we're monotheists. We're monotheists. But, I think there's some kind of connection through Persia, which is right in the middle and, entered you know, was a bridge between both cultures.
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Yeah. So I watched the interview that you had with, Anthony Dream Johnson just because somebody dropped the link, because I wasn't aware of your stuff. And you guys covered a lot of interesting stuff in there about, about the grifting and the, you know, pretty much declaring that whole red pill manosphere space dead or desperately in need of a reboot. And, I figured that's not a, you know, bad place for, you know, for people that don't know you, who might be part of our audience, for them to understand that you are coming from that angle. You said some interesting things in my opinion about, how a lot of the people in that space, they have this signature vibration about them, concerning women because, really, they're so consistently, affiliated with women that would be considered whorish or or slutty or whatever. You know? And that versus something not necessarily more traditional, but definitely not that vibe of sex as the main focus, you know, playing the chase game and all that kind of stuff.
[00:50:47] Unknown:
I think so from my research of the manosphere, the manosphere has always been adjacent to prostitution in some way. So for me, I find it morally repugnant. I'm I'm against, but a lot of the PUA people would hire prostitutes, had sex with prostitutes.
[00:51:09] Unknown:
The what people?
[00:51:11] Unknown:
The PUA stands for pickup artist community, Ben. Okay. Yeah. So
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a lot of them are You're not being a very good pickup artist if you're handing her a couple $100 to do it. I mean, we could anybody could do that. Well I thought that was the fucking real easy road. Right?
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So I've had extensive arguments with them about this. You know? I agree. Yeah. If you're paying for sex, you're not alpha. Nothing. You're just buying it. Right? Like, if if you buy a hamburger, you're not a chef. Right? But who? This is disgusting. But having spoken you know, I've been on the Internet for a long time. Having spoken to pimps, what they told me is a person who purchases sex will repress the fact that they purchased sex. Mhmm. It's it's kind of like a morbidly obese person. They will eat thousands and thousands of calories, and then, poof, it's out of their mind. Right?
And so that's how they are. So when a man has a sexual experience, he needs to talk about it with someone because it just you need to release that energy somewhere. So a lot of the men in the red pill space have sex with prostitutes and pretend that they're sleeping with models. And so the way I figure this out is that there's different generations of women. Right? There's gen x women. There's millennial women, and there's the current Zoomer 20 year olds. And they all respond to different stimulus. The and they like, the the gen x women, you could the old PUA tactics were very long form, millennial women less so, and Zoomers, they have no attention span. And so I would write about this, and I'd be like, look. Like, the old stuff doesn't work because these women have a smartphone.
And and they're like, no. Women are women. No. Women are women. They're all exactly the same. And then I'd go through their comment histories and realize that they were having sex with prostitutes. That's one thing. The next thing you have to understand is, where does the idea of alpha come from? Like this, oh, I'm a macho. No. No. No. No. No. It is something that prostitutes feed those men. So if you're a prostitute, you have sex with men, but the problem is after you're done having sex with this guy, he's gonna feel like a loser. Keep in mind, I my Internet experience, I I talk to people who manage prostitutes. They told me this.
Now how do you make someone who pays you for sex not feel like a loser? You call him an alpha male. And so prostitutes are creating this alpha male behavior. So where does this misogyny come from? Prostitutes to make their clients not feel that bad. And, you know, I've written in that space for a long time. I've spoken to a lot of people. They've slept with prostitutes. So so what is this? The next thing is when they say all women are whores, well, you sleep with prostitutes, so all the women you know are whores. Right? And then finally, they have a very materialistic atheistic outlook where they're vehemently vehementlyanti religion. It doesn't matter which religion. Right? So if you go on, like, if you go on to the red pill or any post red pill space and start being a theist of any sort, they're gonna say, oh, that's woo woo blah blah blah blah blah, and they're gonna push you out like that.
So you know that there are a lot of very powerful sexual rituals, and you know that a lot of the pornography has subliminal stuff going on in it, and there's a lot of spiritual warfare done through pornography because you can deeply influence people's minds when they're aroused. Right? And, a lot of magical practices have strong sexual elements in them. Right? And that if we're talking about sexual strategy, that has to go into it. If we're talking about traditional masculinity or traditional attitudes towards sex or pre Christian views on sex, pagan views on sex, there's temple prostitutes. Right? There's Aphrodite. There's stuff like that. But they're they're a hard
[00:55:27] Unknown:
and light the distinction of Roman paganism. That's not all paganism.
[00:55:33] Unknown:
Well, I I I'm just speaking generally. I don't wanna, you know
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Like, the the sacrament of marriage was in as a heathen, that was that was something that was very, big, and and that was something that was part of life. That specifically now what you're discussing is Roman is Roman paganism.
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Well, there there's there's I I'm just saying that the manosphere discusses sex, and sex has been tied to religion for a long, long time. And especially when you're dealing with Indian men who are Hindu, mostly polytheistic, you know, that's that's a big conversation for them. Right? But let's say the hard atheists of the manosphere will never let you they will deplatform you before you ever cross that threshold, of of speaking on any of these topics. So they're it's not that that they not only do they not believe, they viciously fight anyone who suggests an alternative.
And even if that alternative you know, if you're a Hindu, you're born into it. It's also your race. Right? You don't have anywhere to go. If an Indian man says, I'm not a Hindu anymore, you're still a Hindu. You still look like it. Right? So or, like, if an Arab is considered a Muslim even if they renounce. Right? So a lot of the sexual conversations that I need to have to help, let's say, non European men are completely purged from the manosphere. So that's I don't know.
[00:57:16] Unknown:
So I guess Above and beyond your your advice given to, western the western world? It's more so than that, Purge?
[00:57:29] Unknown:
I I'm saying, like, if you're in my position and you have men come to you or different races and different cultures, you need to help them within their belief system because it's not your like, you trying to change your belief system even if you disagree with parts of their religion is outside of the your balance. It's you don't have clearance for that. Right? So the next thing I wanna point out is the Internet is actually very Indian and very Muslim. Right? So if you put yourself in this coaching role, you need some kind of cultural familiarity, and long term, you're gonna need a religious familiarity.
So that that definitely pulled me, into understanding different cultures so I could help people within their culture.
[00:58:16] Unknown:
I think that's wise, and I like that about what you've said so far. And I did listen to that interview as well. So, my question is, if you could sum this up too, I would really like to hear your definition of what it means to be an alpha and what masculinity is in your book. The definition of masculinity dives right into surplus and economics, which is very interesting to me. But I would like to hear you expand on those two definitions. Okay. Well, first of all, thank you for doing a good deep reading of my book. Like, I'm really touched.
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So so really thank you for digging because, you know, my text is deep in some parts. In, what it means to be a man changes depending on which economic system we're in. Right? So if if we have a traditional view of masculinity, say, we pick a period in time and say, that's what it means to be a man, you're you're holding on to a carcass effectively. So in order to create a family or provide a family, you need to understand in what cultural system you're in and which economic system you're in. And you need to play the game as productively as possible. So right now, we're ending the 3rd industrial revolution, and we're moving into a 4th industrial revolution of, automation and robots and chat GPT and stuff like that. So if you want to, afford the resources that will allow you to have a family and whatever cultural setup that is, you need to get ahead of that revolution.
And I have a problem with conservatives because they're gonna hold on to the vestiges of the previous revolution, and they're gonna go down with the ship effectively. They're gonna hunker in a bunker, and they're gonna go down with the ship. So you have to understand that values are culturally and economically contingent. And as we move into new systems, those values will evolve into something different. Right? So there's there's kind of a a hard line neurotic behavior that you've seen in industrial societies that our great grandfathers had from working in a factory.
And now we're going to call it Taylorism, or Fordism. Then there's a post Fordism, which is a 19 eighties, like, a Lundberg office space culture. And you can see how masculinity evolves depending on which economic system you're in. So I I wanna say is if you wanna succeed as a man, you need to be ahead of the curve. You like, what what does it mean to be male? It means that you're chosen by a woman, and you're chosen by a woman for your success economically or or sexually. But the game keeps changing. So to be a man is know which game is being played and change with the game.
And so I know the manosphere is a conservative space, but in my eyes, it really, really shouldn't be. And my book talks about economic change and that you're either gonna get ahead of this 4th industrial revolution or you're gonna get plowed to death by it. Like, let's say maybe a lot of truck drivers are gonna get plowed to death because they're not gonna deal with that automation. They're not gonna be able to reskill. Obviously, not everyone's gonna make it, and I from my vantage point, I just read books and explain them to people. But if you can get ahead of it and if you're aware, you have a higher chance of making it.
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Does that answer your question? Yeah. Thank you. I I do appreciate the versatility that you're speaking of about men, And I do think that's pretty good advice. You know? So yeah. Thank you. I know Marxism
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isn't welcome in the manosphere, but I'm a Russian, and so I'm well versed. You're allowed. And so and so, you know, there's Dave Harvey's Capital, and the manosphere likes to talk about the sexual marketplace, but they're economically illiterate. And I push Dave Harvey's Capital, and I'm like, you need to understand what what is use value, what is exchange value, and how commodities, including people, can be revalued as we move into different economic systems. Right? I think everyone needs to have that conversation, and I know there's a lot of terms that are really, really unfashionable, but, I would rather introduce people to unfashionable concepts than have them, One of my clients' fathers was a VCR salesperson, and, he didn't switch over to DVD, and then he, jumped in front of a train and killed himself.
And so you need to get ahead of the change, and you need to be economically literate, so so you don't end yourself or you don't fall into that kind of nihilism. I know that's a little dark, but sometimes people need that darkness to push them.
[01:03:13] Unknown:
Right. It's a good example. It's really extreme people are wondering. Yeah. I I think go ahead, Rachel. Please.
[01:03:20] Unknown:
Oh, no. I'll be I'll be right back. I have more questions, but I really do have to put the ducks to bed, so it'll take me a minute. Oh, okay. Yeah. I hear you. That's okay. That's okay. It'll be just a second. So we're talking about
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talking about SMV, the sexual market value, and what is a high value man going into the 4th industrial.
[01:03:41] Unknown:
Well, let's let's have, like, a difficult conversation. So there's different men and there's different economic classes and there's different races, and we live in a multicultural society. Right? So how you present is going to be dependent. Right? And so I've encountered a lot of Asian and Indian men who try and imitate white men, and there's white men who try and imitate Asian men, and they come across as a strange knockoff. So it's important to say that, okay. Like, what kind of car are you, and what are you selling specifically? And sell to that.
You know, like, if you're a Toyota, say, okay. I'm easy to park. I don't break down. I don't require a lot of maintenance. Right? You have to know what you are as a commodity and sell to that and not try and put, let's say, monster truck tires on a Toyota.
[01:04:39] Unknown:
So it's in marketing, go a USP. Right? You know, you you need to know what your unique selling position is and not try to go outside of it. You know?
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You would think that in the manosphere, they would have more economic conversations because in the US, you know, marketing and sales is very, very well developed. But when you look through the red pill, it's barren. You know, where's all the theory? And they're so focused on hating on women. I get it. There's divorces, whatever your girlfriend treated on you. I understand. But why can't we bring all the theory that I have, that you guys have to help men out? You know, even if you've been burned, even if you feel bad, like, let's let's do our work as academics, please. And so I guess now I'm trying I don't believe I'm changing my message. I'm trying to find a new audience who's more intellectually inclined.
Yep.
[01:05:33] Unknown:
I'm I'm So what what's the main reason you felt like you got censored? I mean, Ben, if you were trying to pop in there first, go ahead, man.
[01:05:40] Unknown:
No. Go ahead.
[01:05:42] Unknown:
I'm just curious, I mean, because, you know, did you feel like it was you were bringing for you know, I I haven't followed you, so I don't know well. So a lot of my questions are rudimentary that way of, like Okay. So you were bringing extensive articles. Right? You were bringing, a lot of meat and potatoes to the table. So but then you're experiencing censorship. Did you feel like that was because people were feeling threatened and were personally taking it personal? Or was it the specific things that you were bringing to the table that they were like, this can't be this can't be here. You know? Okay. So there's there's 2 things. The first thing is,
[01:06:14] Unknown:
I grew up hating Hillary Clinton. You know, there's a whole thing with the ball. And and so I had a chance to take my shot. Mhmm. And I directed the red pill audience. I led the the largest Trump community on the Internet, and I debated and defeated a, network host. Her name is Samantha b. Mhmm. And so Who's on Comedy Central? Who's on Comedy Central. Her career didn't pan out. I think her husband is doing better. But the Democrats had a game plan. And because this is the 2016 election election was the first YouTube election. There were a lot of tactics that I knew from the red pill, from Reddit, from YouTube that I brought into the election that the Democratic party with their, I don't know, 1,000,000 or 1,000,000,000 of dollars wasn't willing to do deal with. So they they did basically, like, a network analysis, and they saw how, how the red pill affected the election by bringing out, let's say, conservative disenfranchised men who normally wouldn't vote. And they're like, hey, yo. Like, no. No. No. Like, you can't be using our platforms to pivot in a way we don't like. That was so that was a lot of it, and I think I was censored at a very high level on that level.
The next thing is what I believe is when we're in a period of chaos, that's when social structures are the most malleable, and that's when it's the opportunity, to really push. So you can say that you can make a lot of money when there's blood on the streets as an investor. That's true. But for my audience of 20 year old males who are trying to get laid, during the pandemic, all the social structures are weak. They can make a move. One of my controversial articles is on Ukraine. I think you guys read it. And it's to say that, look. Like, these women are fleeing war zones.
They're entering. You like it or not, you the war or not, and that's an opportunity for you to, I don't know, to seek short term relationships or long term relationships. Right? I I don't control these men, but regardless, it's an opportunity. So a war is an opportunity economically, and it's also an opportunity sexually. And and regardless of whether or not you agree with it, let's have that difficult conversation. And they're like, no. No. No. I don't wanna have a difficult conversation. The reason why they don't wanna have a difficult conversation is because for them, sex is a means of escape. It's a means of escape escaping from their job. It's a means of is just escaping from their reality. And to say that reality has an impact on on sex, that really, really hurts them. So they're like, well, no politics in the, you know, in the sex conversation. Well, politics and sex are always linked. Right? So so those two things, banned me, like, got me pushed out.
And, the other thing is to keep a conversation fresh, you need to push. Right? So, like, let's say we're having an amazing conversation. If I come back on later, this has to be something completely different. We have to push, push, push, push, push. Right? Like, in bodybuilding, we need to challenge the body. And as a writer, as an artist, you gotta keep pushing it forward. And they don't want to. They want there's disenfranchised men. They wanna keep collecting paychecks from them repeating the same stuff. So they wanna minimize their labor expenditure, I would argue. So those factors, if that helps.
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No. That's great, man. Thank you very much. Yeah. So in 2016,
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that was the year of the great meme and magic war. Frogs and Donald Trump and such. Were you involved with the meme magic at all in some ways? So the those memes were first used
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against s three w feminists. And they they the s three w feminist and Hillary Clinton, it's same people, same demographic. So I knew those tactics were gonna work, so that's what we pushed in 2016.
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So were you affiliated with the Donald? I mean, you said you were part of the biggest, Donald Trump The Donald. Yeah. So I ran I was I was number 2. Oh, interesting. I didn't okay. So that's, yeah. I used to I used to pop in there sometimes and look what was going on here long, long ago.
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So they they were constantly trying to ban us, and I was doing everything everything I could to skate that line of keeping you interested while not getting banned. And we ran it through the election as much as we could, and then they started posting against police, stuff like that, to really try and get the thing banned on under a false premise. And that's how they were able to get rid of the the largest gathering of, let's say, right wing or anti globalist, voters.
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So I don't remember what year, but I remember they did finally kill it. Go ahead, Ben. I was just saying, you know, they did finally get rid of the Donald. I remember I didn't go, like, follow the drama and the fallout, but I know that they did finally successfully Conde Nast finally green lighted, getting rid of it. You know?
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So our community, the because we delve more into the occult community, for us, red pill and blue pill have a different connotation than what you're using. So for us, it's more of people that believe the mainstream story versus the people that look at the undercurrents of what's happening and those and so you're you're talking about a a different set of things. When you're speaking red pill, can you clearly define what the objectives of the red pill community are? And then further, can you define where your exact deviations from that prescription
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are? Okay. So when you define the red pill, it's kinda like defining the United States of America. Right? The United States of America is a different place depending on on what time you're in. Right? There's a Ronald Reagan America. There's an Obama America. Right? And the culture shifts. So there sorry. My chair is swiveling. So there is the early PUA manosphere where from in the 2000. There's a lot of programmers that make a lot of money, and through their money, they need to figure out how to do family formation, and it's still mostly heritage white America.
That's that's the early red pill. There's the early 2010 red pill where we're fighting SJWs. Okay? And so we're in a culture war. And then there is, let's say, the the late red pill where it's political, it's it's parasitic, stuff like that. My my deviation is I brought Marxian economics into it. I brought, psychoanalysis into it, and so I brought a European continental analysis into the red pill. And that doesn't change the mission statement, but they are devoutly Kantian. They believe in ego psychology. They hate psychoanalysis, and they believe in, Keynesian economics to the detriment of anything else. So they don't know about base and superstructure, nothing like that. For them, everything is very segmented.
So just bringing in European systems of analysis, they don't wanna know. They're not interested in that. The original focus of the community was to help those programmers, get laid. The current red pill is focused on maintaining their celebrity status amongst dorks. For me, I think sex and dating and marriage is an interesting topic, and I wanna discuss it economically, religiously through every lens that I can find, because I think there's really fascinating conversations to be had. So my desire to dig more is is more work than most of the, creators are willing to do. So I price them out. Right? So if if if you're in car detailing and you do a much better job than everyone else, you make it you're gonna make everyone look bad. Right?
So I make everyone look bad, and by pushing me out, they don't have to work as hard. So so when is this the next thing, kinda earlier to your question, when when people enter into a relationship, that relationship is a precursor to how you're gonna raise your family, right, and what kind of child you're gonna create and what kind of culture you're gonna bring to your child. Right? So by making sure that a child is blue pill or holds on to globalist values, you create a future globalist. Right? So since a lot of women are globalist leaning, one, they're not gonna have children most likely.
But, 2, if they do, they're gonna be raised in globalist values. So I think that's where our definitions of red pill converge. I I don't think the difference in our definition is is as big as it might feel.
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Yeah. The second half of what you're talking about does seem to be more aligned with, our community a little bit. Again, especially where you're talking about politically where, but, it's the dating crossover where that would be probably doesn't have anything to do with our community in any way, shape, or form.
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Now when you say There are some people that are aware of it. You know? There's there's definitely young guys trying to get laid, and and they're gonna land on pickup artist information and that other red pill. You know? There was a pretty big documentary, wasn't there? They kinda changed. It moved the red pill from more of the, matrix understanding, you know, to to choose the higher truth and then specifically narrowed it down. Wasn't it like a Netflix documentary or something that kinda pushed the definition over towards the dating and
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There's this woman, Cassie Jay, who I spoke to, like, 10 years ago. She was very nice, and there were a lot of these PUA people who, no. They were there there were, marriage marriage rights activists. There were divorced dads that got burnt by the court system. And, on a personal level, they were kinda boring. They didn't push theory, and I know they were herbivores, I would argue, if I'm I'm trying to be kind. And so that's what it started off as. But then, you know, I I lift and I read, and me and my friends are aggressive. So we kinda chase them off, and we made the red pill, have more fiery discourse. And they were they were just used to people agreeing with them.
And then now what you see is there's Andrew Tate who I think you guys know very well, has a career in promoting prostitutes. And, before Andrew Tate, their the the prostitution online economy wasn't as centralized, and he has, really cornered the market. So if if you're gonna if I have to say something positive about Andrew Tate is there there are Romanian women who, benefited from a lot of money because of him, and they can live lives And that I I don't wanna fully defend him, and I don't wanna fully attack him. But because of his social media presence and because of his money, he was able to fully take things over because he has a very efficient, industrialized process.
So now the manosphere is Andrew Tate, de facto, because of how good his processes are, to the detriment of any other creator. So so to kinda go back to regardless of what your position is, your delivery system has to be the most up to date system. Otherwise, no one's ever gonna hear you.
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So I'm curious, where you stand on homesteading and things like that, because we we talk a lot about things that would be viewed as traditional on this channel. That's just because there are pagan values in there. That's I mean, that's what it means. It's pretty traditional. But, you know, I mean, in your in your book, it seems that your solution is to immigrate and work remotely, and which creates a completely different culture. So would you say that homesteading and things like that fall into an archaic way of being? Because it's very heavily promoted right now.
It's kind of on trend, but it's also very dangerous to the system. So I think they're letting people do it, try and fail, and then, you know, reject it. But, you know, where where do you stand on that? Like, what do you think?
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What I feel is that the purpose of the United States is to crash and burn like a phoenix. And when you start reading Freemasonry, they are going to crash the United States. They're they're dead set on crashing the United States. And so I'm not against homesteading. I'm really afraid of living in the United States because the same way the globalists crashed Soviet Union, I believe they're gonna crash the United States. So if you if you do homesteading in a country that the globalists have not decided on crashing, I think that's a good idea. But and and I think you might be able to blend in better in Latin America because those countries, the globalists are investing in.
So
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I just got it.
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So so just if if you look at how they how they how they designate the rural, let's say, right areas, they they have a plan to edge you out, from what I understand, with water, with rights, with their federal agencies, the where Latin America is strong is their federal agencies aren't as powerful. And so it's a lot harder for them to do stuff like that, and the communities are a lot stronger, and they're less beholden to the federal government. The the United States government is very powerful because Americans have gone to war repeatedly, and all of the tactics that they learned in war, they're gonna bring it back. It's called the colonial boomerang.
Right? Latin America, from what I feel, from what I've seen, has less of that. So the government that I think is the scariest government is the United States government. So so, you know, there's a lot of people who are homesteading, but just where you're homesteading and what's your political climate. Right? Because it's when you call yourself a homesteader, you're taking a political position, and which government one is the most opposed to understands you the best. Right? Because I I have a whole discussion on how well can the government quilt you. How well does the government understand who you are? The better they understand who you are, the better they can fight you. Right? So and the United States has very, very competent agencies who understand you very, very well. Right? So so, obviously, I know people in the federal government. They're they're very competent people, and and they they know everything that you're saying, and they know how you're saying it and how you're lying.
I'm not saying you're not gonna win, but they know what you're doing. Right? They they have files on you. There's Department of Homeland Security documents on whatever you're doing, Whereas some of these countries are less advanced, and, you know, maybe you're gonna be safe, maybe you're gonna be, you know, not. But
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you don't think that the, lack of arms, the one most of those countries is gonna create an issue? Because that is the one advantage you got in America. Wait. No matter what a libtard wants to say that that in American public, you can't just start
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murking the American public. That will get bad. It's not about murking the public. They're going to slow grind you through water games. Like, if if you look at California, how did they get rid of the the the farmers? Did they shoot all the farmers? No. They played a water game. Right? So they're gonna be playing zoning and water and, like, wildfire games with you, and they're gonna slow roll you out.
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Clay Nicolson in Chinatown.
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You know? Exactly. So so there's a whole water politics that they're gonna play. I know they're playing water politics in Chile, so I'm not well versed in homesteading. But if you look at Duluth, there's there's different kinds of warfare, and I think I discussed this in the book. Right? There is a kinetic warfare with guns. Right? Then there's an information warfare. Right? Then we can talk about certain, how do I put it, doom juice. Not gonna say anything. It's mentioned in my book. Right? So that's a new kind of vector for warfare, but there will be a water warfare.
And in the Middle East, they do play water warfare. So, just be mindful that that could be their primary vector for attack. And maybe they're not gonna get you in your generation, but they might make it hard for your children to inherit the house so they can edge you out, in that way. Right? I know how much communism you guys have read. Right? But there there's a a a percussive game, but there's definitely legal games, and there's a lawfare that they can play with you. Right? And they have a very robust lawfare vector. I know a lot of Americans have a a gun fantasy, and the federal government knows you have a gun fantasy, which is why they're not gonna come at you through the gun situation. One is this.
Other countries understand that if you go to Latin America, they have certain rules on the books with regards to firearms, but the situation on the ground is completely different. Once again, I don't wanna speak to that on camera. But from my time in Latin America, that's evident. So just understand that they have huge, huge think tanks. I've had the privilege through my Manosphere experience to speak to some of those think tanks. And, there is hold on. There is George Resnick hold on. Look at you. So I have this book right here, collapse.
It's called, Reza his name is Reza Negrastani. So I think this is a good one for you. There's an article about how Iran, under the Shah, used manipulation of water to domesticate their nomadic population. Right? I don't know if you can see that. So and the Shah was controlled by the CIA the whole time. So I think that's what they're gonna do. So as a homesteader, maybe read that book and and read how they transformed a population of nomads into city dwellers through water manipulation.
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Do you have a favorite James Bond movie?
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Favorite James Bond movie? Mhmm. Oh, man. I have James Bond here. Sorry. I have everything. I just I just binge everything. I don't know if that's why you asked. So oh, my camera. So my, I like the first Daniel Daniel Craig one. Casino Royale? Yeah. I I really like the beginning. I I really like this return to a gritty transpond. Mhmm. That was really good.
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But
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oh, can you fuck with the camera? Sorry. So, I mean, for me, what I like about James Bond is I I I like the it's not so much oh, we did it. It's not so much about the story for me anymore, but I I really like the costumes. I like the cars. I like how they put it together. So I kinda look for other stuff just because I feel like the American writers have been so exhausted that they really don't produce to the level that they they
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did. In in terms of male role models throughout, you know, history, the last few years with this franchise of James Bond, He was sort of the debonair guy. He had charisma. You know, he could handle women. He was a spies. He had license to kill. He was a dangerous guy. And sort of that role model in film is that, dead now with the last film. You know, they kind of killed the franchise. That sort of male is no longer gonna be popular in that franchise. I I
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I I I love this pivot. I think what happened behind the scenes is that they were using James Bond to to recruit into federal agencies. Right? So when you talk about James Bond, it's a film made by the US government for military propaganda, which they do really, really well. And I think the American population is really shifting. I know the combat arms are still white heritage Americans, but during the pandemic, they really pushed those people out. They pushed out a lot of my friends with that mandate, trying to speak carefully.
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Mhmm. So
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I don't think they have that same demand for the same kind of person.
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Sure.
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And they
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So look at Mission Impossible and Jason Bourne, the American hero versus a British hero, but they're still kind of for a western establishment.
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Before they collapsed the Soviet Union, they were playing a lot of really depressing films about, like, alcoholics and orphans and stuff like that, and they really demoralized the Russian population. So I think before they really collapse the US with the collapse of the dollar, you might see a shift in the film as a form of psychological warfare because that's what my parents experienced. So I would say, watch out for that. You know, my family experienced one collapse, and and and George Soros actually participated in that one. So definitely watch for that, and that's why these strong you know, in Soviet cinema, there were strong heroes. You know? There were people who were fighting for the rights of women in Central Asian Republics. Right? So those women didn't have to wear burkas.
It's called, like, sun in the desert or something like that. And then those heroes started being pulled back, pulled back, pulled back, and the films got darker and darker and more depressing. So understand that they could manipulate that psyche through through the films that they're doing. If you look at the latest Star Wars, they they murder Luke Skywalker. It's it's a colossal wreck. So understand that those films are a, a psychological warfare that they might that could be a vector.
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Do you have any thoughts on the Dune franchise?
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That's interesting. I like like the art. I don't like when I read Dune, I don't like it because it's he he's too creative. You know? Like, he he has his own terminology for everything. So in my in my book, I try and I try and write for, like, a construction worker. I try and, write a a common man's language. And I I think Dune is interesting as an experimental work Mhmm. That, expanded the sci fi universe. But,
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you know, I Dune being kind of an inspiration that maybe inspired Star Wars in the franchise, and there's a lot of economics and economic warfare in the trade guilds and the spice being an important commodity. This type of thing might be interesting to to men. For me, that's interesting. I think Dune's interesting in that it opened up the genre.
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Mhmm. But I don't think he got the flavor profile correct or at least or at least for me, he didn't. So but I I I appreciate the creativity, if that makes sense.
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We've been asked to ask you about what you, your feelings on NASA.
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So the space agency?
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Well, so oh, I had a girlfriend who was a vehement flat earther. And I, you know, the I think the most convincing flat earth arguments are, the flight patterns of it's I think it's like Australia to Argentina. They don't go in the direction that you think they would. So that that's the most convincing flat earth argument I've seen. Some people believe the the moon landing is fake, because they needed to score 1 on the Soviet Union. So there's a lot of space warfare. I think in Hawaii, they did a space laser allegedly, and, allegedly, there were California wildfires, which were space laser.
You know, I I'm not saying any of this is true. The news, anyways. Direct energy weapons is the theory, anyways. It's dying under the day. It's a James Bond movie plot. Right. So so there's a NASA military application. Mhmm. And so they're definitely doing stuff there, and there's definitely games there. So it's I think they're stealing a lot of funds and reappropriating them into black military budget. So in terms of deceit, that's that's something that you know, if if I had to point at something that's most likely true, it's it's gonna be something like that. And then, also, there's gonna be a fake alien invasion. A lot of people believe that. So the maybe that's something that they're putting together.
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Yeah. It's the Werner Von Braun.
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Yes. I do. So,
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you know, when you were on that interview with, with dude, he he started to ask you about your, username, and it just kinda faded away. And so I'm still curious just out of sheer curiosity and selfishness
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about what happened. Is yeah. Sorry to interrupt you. What happened is early on in Reddit, I had a troll account. And I would you know, I chose, like, just the most obnoxious username of gay lube oil because they're smuggling steroids into Australia. And and I thought I thought it was funny because I could post on leftist subreddits and right subreddits, and I would just, like like, I would write like, I'd write stuff. Like, my first article on Reddit was, I'm looking for lesbian dating advice. Hey. I'm a lesbian. I wanna climb a palm and collect dates, and I don't know how to do it. And I post this to a bunch of lesbians.
And and I was curious, like, are they gonna, like, address me as a lesbian or, like, as, like, a fruit collector? And so, you know, I was I was, like, 22, and so I wanted to cause problems. You've got dates. And then and then later on, like, there's all these people who took themselves super seriously. Yeah. And I'm like, you're talking about sleeping with women. So whatever. And and
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Our video background, for those who don't see it, is the actual lube oil. It's the pink lube oil, meaning it's the gay lube oil background that you have that we have on our stream tonight. Yes. So you said, I think of a lot of people probably don't have the deep meme lore of knowing that some was it in New Zealand or Australia? Some guy, you know, you received a package. It was steroids. They they wrote gay lube oil on that thing. And so then his mother, fell under the belief, the false belief that he was a homosexual because he was trying to get steroids. Right? I think that's it. Yeah. So so, you know, I I've been in the gym bodybuilding community for a long time,
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and, obviously, they all sell steroids. And so one of the hardest places to receive steroids is Australia, and there's a lot of games that they play. Like, they'll hide it in routers. They'll hide it in creams, because Asia's Asia's right there. And so there's a huge you know, they can make the steroid raws in China, and they really wanna send them to Australia. And so they've in the bodybuilding steroid community, which is synonymous, I think you guys know, they've been getting increasingly more and more creative. And so so for me, it started off that that way, you know, I'm heterosexual.
I I I made a troll account, you know, back in the day. Right. There were a lot of troll accounts, and and I never switched. And I I would you know, like, I've been kicked off of Reddit because I like I like to troll, and my articles are troll ish even though they have a lot of truth in them. So that's that's how I got my username. But, yeah, that's that's my No. Thanks, man. I appreciate it. That's that's pretty damn funny. Yeah. Thank you. I'm glad you appreciate it. I think Rachel had, like, more questions for me, and I I was really curious I was really curious because, I'm I'm expanding more into a female audience now. Mhmm. And and I know that my book is experienced differently by women.
I also know that women love my writing because it's thrilling, and it is a type of erotica at times too. So I'm just curious, like, how how do obviously, I'm writing mostly for 20 year old males. But Right. I am curious how you experience it.
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Yeah. I don't mean to backtrack because we've gotten down some really fun calls here. But, yeah, I mean, initially, I can tell that it's not written for me. I do find the humor, and I can giggle about it. You know? I do get you know, the snark is entertaining. The art's beautiful. Thank you. You do get really deep further in, which is something I noticed. I was like, wow. This is gritty. Heavy philosophical stuff, which is nice. So so most of my questions, you know, do do wanna pin down exactly, you know, without without, you know, the comedy and all that, just, like, really nailing down your your definition. So I've asked some of those Okay.
Already. I think after listening to your interview, I was curious about your upbringing. Okay. I think that really plays into a lot of, you know, how we perceive the world. So you mentioned, you know, that you were you were born Russian and you at what point did you come to America? You mentioned, you know, growing up in a lot of those communities. 4th generation immigrants. So I think my ancestors may or may not have had similar, very different experiences than you. Some of them could find community. Some of them could not. So, you know, how did that shape your views on what's masculine and what's feminine? You know, when you're approaching people who are betas or all of that stuff, you know, this is how how you perceive the world. So and it's like you're saying, you know, talking about talking to people specific to their culture. So I'm curious about yours.
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So Russian women are very strong, at least Soviet women, because there were Soviet snipers, there's female doctors. They really gender integrated women. And my mother's a very strong woman, And, I think a lot of Russians and Eastern Europeans have this from their mother. They they'll tell you that I came to this country, and you better do, you know, really, really well. You better get good grades. I didn't bring you to this country, for you to be a loser. Right? So I was expected to do really well academically and to fight to the top no matter what.
And so, in school, I fought to get good grades, and in my writing, I I fight into a grittiness, and there is a Russian grittiness of a hyper realism where I feel like Americans have a more romantic notion of sex. Whereas if you start watching Russian movies, you're gonna see this hyperrealism. And if you look at my writing, it's it's very direct. And if you guys know any Eastern European languages, you know that Eastern Europeans are are more direct as a culture. So that directness is is shocking to, an American audience.
It's almost like a fight club vernacular. So when people read me, I believe I am grammatically correct, and I don't believe I have an accent. But the way I put together sentences, is hyper hyper direct, and that is because my first language
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It's a German it's a Germanic versus, Latin thing. So the Latin the Latin languages are the romance languages. They're very flowery. They're also very deceptive. The Germanic languages, which Russian, the Russe Vikings are a derivative of the Germanics. They you know, that was the Russe Vikings were the Varangian guards, and then Russia was given to them as payment for their good services, the Varangian guards. And so this is all a Germanic derivative even though the languages don't resemble that much each, you know,
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with their actual words currently. Yes. So the the first rulers of Russia were were Norse. Right? They're but so I I guess to my style, what I wanna talk about is there's this man, Paul Varillo. He's a theorist. He talks about speed. And through speed, speed is traumatic. Right? So if you move too quickly, you can die. Right? You can fall off of a motorcycle. Well, when you're in the dating sphere and you are going on a lot of Tinder dates like I did in my twenties, and you're going to all these houses, there's there's the act of sex itself. I think that's more or less universal, but there's going and seeing the destitution and and figuring out what's this woman's life by what's on her counter.
And getting a a massive experience like that is very gritty. And in the manosphere, I felt like they papered over it, but what I wanted to do was say, well, like, look. Like, this is my twenties. This is what I experienced in Los Angeles. It was gritty, and someone needs to talk about it because it's experience of my generation. Right? And so, in the pursuit of sex sexual maximization, it's inevitable to get a certain level of greediness, and and that's the experience of my friends and that's the experience of my clients. And whether or not it's good or bad, I think it's important to convey that because it's a it's a story that should be told. And I know it's hard for people to look at it, but I there are consequences to having a lot of sex, and there are a lot of consequences to hookup culture, and it is that darkness. And when you look at the astrological attributions of my postmodern, sex chapter, you're gonna see that darkness, and you're gonna start seeing these darker attributions.
And so I don't wanna make a moral call of whether or not someone should or should not do that, but understand that they will take their soul will be impacted from engaging in that. And there there's obviously benefit from overcoming that, but I I think that's something that should be put in print. And I wanna push my book, and I want more people to address that. So when when you look at Russian media, I know a lot of it's propaganda, but there's a lot of grittiness, and I think the American audience can benefit from that grit.
America has a a protestant culture of sweeping things under the rug. I think there's a lot of stuff under the rug in the United States. I think it's gonna start sliming out. So I I think let's look at things as they are even if it's painful, be because I think things are gonna start shifting very quickly the way they did during the pandemic. And the more the more honesty we can have right now, the better things are gonna be. You know, my generation, I believe, is damaged from that hookup culture. A lot of women my age are very bitter. You know, some women could handle it, some women can't handle it, but dating at that speed has a strong psychological effect, which if you're not equipped, if you don't have, I believe, a high verbal IQ to process it well, if you don't have friends and family that are gonna process it well, it will be trauma for you.
And so so I I know I know you read this, and I I know how my grittiness affects women, And I think you're very polite to me. And I think there was a secret unstated question. But what what I wanna say is there's a certain grittiness, and, thank you for bearing with me. But I I think, ultimately, it's it's good. It's it's it's medicine, and and we need to start having these conversations.
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I appreciate that. And I do appreciate getting real and being gritty. That's something that I really like, I've I've been around all kinds of different circles of people. So, I mean, I find that kind of thing actually a little bit attractive because it's at least attempting to be real. You know what I mean? And maybe not everybody in those circles are real, but they're trying. So then, you know, something that I'm curious about is, you know, if you understand how the system is working, and working against people and how the culture is setting people up really to have relationships that don't work, You know, it's like, you know, in the interview we're talking about, you know, and and granted you've talked to a lot of people who who deal with prostitutes and all that stuff, and and you go to the bar and there's all these gold diggers. Right? But, you know, I was talking to Jim earlier and it's like, this is this is what humans do. How do you meet people? You go to a local event. Our current culture has you going to bars, you know. And and I've had artist friends who are like, well, how do I meet women? And it's like, you're gonna have to go to the places you want to be with with that woman.
You know, you go to an art show. Is it awkward as heck to start a conversation with a stranger there? Absolutely. But that's where you go. So so unfortunately, our culture has made it so that if you wanna find anybody, you go to the party scene. And those are not people that are are into anything long lasting. But unfortunately, that's what ends up happening. You know, so you have these girls and they're not trying to gold dig. Sometimes I really hate that term. But it's because it's totally natural for women to look for somebody to be supportive and be in partnership with. So, you know, of course, there are women who who, you know, see that very differently.
But, you know, do you have compassion for that? Because our our systems really put people into a very tight tight place.
[01:48:26] Unknown:
Well, so I think the dollar's declining. Right? And so in order to start a family, which is what I think a lot of women are looking to do or really want to do regardless of whether or not they're ready to admit that, there has to be a certain income. Right? You can't buy a house under a certain income. Right? You can't support a family under a certain income. And if that's a woman's goal, she needs to look for men like that. Right? So are they gold digging like that? Next, on the mail side, there's a lot of financial insecurity, and so that's gonna get projected right back out at whim.
Right? So I guess I guess that, you know, for me, I, you know, yes, I went to law school, but I I grew up in the gym. I grew up as a personal trainer then managing a gym. So I, you know, I've never felt Gold Dog because I don't, you know, I don't I don't dress that way. Right? So so if if, I guess, rural women like me right here here in Mexico, very, very rural women like me, traditional women, women who grew up on a ranch, stuff like that. So so that's not my personal experience. And I think that in order to be some hagglese, if women perceive you in that way, you probably did something to do that perception.
So it's it's a back and forth. And do women are women looking to be bailed out? Yes. I think women were tricked into a lot of bad degrees that aren't paying the way they used to. So, yes, women are looking for bailouts, but so is every corporation. So whatever problems you're gonna see at the dating level, you're gonna see at the other scales as well. Right? So I guess I I don't know what state you're in. And, what is this? The the other thing is, you know, I grew up in Los Angeles, and the dating we did really wasn't the bars or clubs. It was the the hookup app, industrialized dating, of meeting up with people who you're sexually attracted to, but you have zero compatibility with and maybe zero language with. And it was this industrial process of I went on a date with this person from completely different class, and and it was just people being shot at each other by algorithms, you know, and not really understanding who this person is, except for scavenging what's in their bedroom, what's in their bathroom. Right? And so on one hand, that's dark, but on the other hand, it's kind of like a commodity discovery of who did I have sex with.
And and that's partially my experience. That's the experience of my friends. And I really, really wanted to tell that story because I know, that online dating scene is being eroded, and I had the pleasure or maybe the displeasure of being right in the forefront of it. It's not it's not the glory days anymore, and I I just want to put it into writing. So yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you.
[01:51:54] Unknown:
So John Waters that talked about the bookshelf. Your, so some of your, points, you've kinda seemed to be on two sides where, like, you're talking about, and I and I I agree with the part where you're saying that the, hookup culture has had a real bad, mental impacts on folks. But then, also, do you teach hookup culture?
[01:52:27] Unknown:
I mean, for me, like, I'm a mercenary. You know what I mean? So if you come to me and you ask for something, I'm gonna explain how you get it. And at the end of the day, I think it's their moral choice. I don't wanna be you know, I'll say, look. Like, this is this is what you do. This is how this is played. And so there's there's different men at different stages. Right? And if, you know, I went to law school and you defend good people and you defend bad people, and for me, the rush is is the process. I love the process. So I I would say, like, in a sense, I'm an instrument.
I maybe I have moral culpability. But for me, I love binging information. And so it's you know, my I have a a whole section on work. I have some very dark sections. And in order for me to have those dark sections, I have to talk to unsavory people. So unsavory people give me good stories, and I I've dealt with these unsavory people, and now you could read those stories. So to get that information, you you you do have to talk to those people. You know, obviously, I'm online. There's some separation between me and them. But they, you know, they're they're really dark, and they they can have a a very negative psychological impact on you.
But it's like if you're a doctor. Like, if you wanna see the most interesting diseases, you have to be in the middle of it. Right? If you wanna see the most, interesting parts of the culture, the most negative parts, if you wanna be on the front lines, right, you you gotta expose yourself to that. So I'm curiosity driven. I'm information driven. And does that put me in contact with gritty people? Yeah. And and I think that's that's something I've taken upon myself. And maybe that's the correct decision. Maybe it's not. I hope it makes an interesting book. That's yeah.
[01:54:27] Unknown:
The chat What would you say your oh, go ahead. Go ahead. The chat has pointed out
[01:54:32] Unknown:
so at they're asking for a delineation.
[01:54:36] Unknown:
Delineation.
[01:54:37] Unknown:
Your religion because, there's born Jewish, but Jewish is a is a religion. It's not, you know, you could be born of that same region and choose a different religion. So that that's a religious choice. But then also, there's the mitochondrial aspect of it has to follow through your mother's line. So there's asking people are asking for clarification. I believe they wanna know, a, if it comes from your mother's line, so you follow the mitochondrial, path, and then, b, if you religiously are practicing.
[01:55:19] Unknown:
Well, so I got the mitochondria, and, racially, I have a Russian father and a Jewish mother. So, I'm I'm a lot bigger and stronger than my my purebred Jewish cousins, and I think a lot more aggressive, but that's what they tell me. But for me, I like to dig intellectually. And in Judaism, there's a lot to dig through. And sometimes it goes into a dark path, and a lot of times the Jews argue with each other. But there's there's a lot of stuff to dig, and I see a very academic religion, which is intellectually very fulfilling for me. So so that but I don't in terms of practicing, I I avoid pork, and I try not to do anything on the Sabbath.
But I I guess there's a lot of brilliant texts that I really, really like. And and because Jews have been isolated from Christian society, because they grew up in ghettos, and because they were excluded from a lot of work, they had a lot of time to develop these rich texts. Right? So, I know that Christians wrote very negative things about Jews, and I know that the Talmud has a lot of very negative things about Christians. But every culture has written very negative things about everyone else, and that negativity is what holds these cultures together. And I I think I think both religions, are defined by their antipathy towards the other.
But what I will tell you is if you're European, you are partially Jewish a 100%. Some of your ancestors converted. Not. What if not. If if you're if you're it depends on who. You know? If you're Italian, yes. If you're any kind of Spaniard,
[01:57:30] Unknown:
yes. I I don't disagree with that. And you're Northern European? If you're Northern European Absolutely not. If you're If you're you're of Germanic descent, if you're
[01:57:41] Unknown:
not. Okay. It depends on okay. So if you're Scandinavian, then no. Then no. And so it it it I how about this? There's a lot of people who have Jewish ancestry.
[01:57:56] Unknown:
Like, there's a lot of people You even understand you're into these kind of things, the the motherfucker gene. Right?
[01:58:03] Unknown:
That's not that's only expressed in extreme northern European people because we're our own people. You're definitely your own people. I I sorry. I was I was thinking about, you know, like, the areas that I grew up in. But, if if you're from the frozen north, no, listen, no Jew wanted to open a bank there. So I think I think you're I think you're pure. No one wanted to sell you a credit card or jewelry.
[01:58:31] Unknown:
You weren't worth it. Gold makes a curse.
[01:58:34] Unknown:
I get it. And you're really combative. So to get you to sign up for loans, it's just not gonna work. We are. But but I I think if you're I think if you're a Mediterranean, then then you're gonna find that.
[01:58:51] Unknown:
There's a higher chance there. So so yeah. So
[01:58:54] Unknown:
yeah. Sorry. I misspoke and It's French and English too. I mean, you know, anything European, you know, the the Jews married into the royalty to to kinda solidify and expand their position. And so then, you know, that's why you can't separate you can't separate the Jews from the English people, and you certainly can't separate freemasonry from Kabbalism because
[01:59:16] Unknown:
it it demanded overlap at some point. You know? You know, so what I'll tell you is there's different Jews. Right? So there's African Jews. There's, there's Middle Eastern Jews. My my ancestors lived in shacks in the outskirts of Ukraine, for for 100 of years. They were isolated, and then at some point, they they integrated with the the broader Russian community. So there's there's, how do I put this? There's first of all, I'm not here to defend anyone. Every culture is going to you know, there's gonna be Cossacks and Crusaders, and there's gonna be the Jewish counter reaction. So in history, there's there's all sides all sorts of everything.
And what I would say is unless you're like our our purebred northern friend, you don't know who your ancestors were or what they did, and and their truth is usually a lot more complicated than you think. So you might have negative views, and I understand that, and I'm not discounting that. But just understand that there's especially in Central Europe, there's a lot of mixing. So and the other thing within Kabbalism, you're gonna see a lot of, Greek ideas, and there's the the the line between Jew and non Jew, especially in Europe, isn't that clear a lot of the time. That's but what I'll say is it is a delicate conversation, and,
[02:00:55] Unknown:
I It's an interesting one. Yeah. And once again, it requires the the the delineation. So when you look at it in its origins, it's an Abrahamic religion, which is a religion of the Hebrew people. And then specifically, when you look at it, then at one point in time, to at least be one of the God's chosen people, you needed to specifically be of Hebrew lineage. Then at some point in time, it got transferred over into where it just became, while Judaism is the religion of the Hebrews, at some point in time, other cultures started coming into it. There are a lot of, theories out there that, would say in order to be sacrificial lambs, because then they're not true Jews and you have the wheat before the chaff.
And, that way, though, you can be sacrificed and you get to keep the chosen ones as the good ones. And so then there was a a religious release where you could join the religion without the Hebrew blood. And somehow that happened. Now I understand where that happened in Christianity because Jesus supposedly said the Gentiles were now of the same of the same covenant as everybody else. Whereas in Jews, that person has never come that made that covenant, and Jesus is somebody, which I'm not a Christian, so don't take any of this as Okay. Something I'm taking a piece of, bro. I'm an odinist. So, the, the Christians then had that story, but the Jews never had that covenant where the Gentiles were allowed to actually become one of them. So this becomes very confusing.
And then further, when Israel in, the forties, when Israel became a nation, now the nation becomes Jew in and of itself. And so if you say anything about that, your act about the actions of Israel in and of itself, you're attacking Judaism. So it becomes an extraordinarily, confusing subject, especially when, some folks and I and I do understand what you were saying that there are divisions inside that religion. I get it. And that the but that there are the folks that own the media, They help propagate that confusion.
[02:03:22] Unknown:
I guess what I'll tell you is it's gonna feel like I'm pivoting, but I'm not pivoting. It's that at least the European Jews, the Ashkenazi Jews, the religion is very literary, and there's a lot of reading, and we're known for our high verbal IQ. Right? So if verbal IQ is your strength, you're gonna play to it. And I've trusted to play to it by writing you a book that I hope you guys enjoy. But I know members of my race are gonna be playing word games with you guys. Sometimes, maybe it's their own benefit, maybe to to their own detriment. Right? So if the cards you have is verbal intelligence, you're going to be predisposed to manipulation because that is your strength.
Right? So so when members of my culture or members of my race do that, understand that if, let's say, if you're an African American and you have a very long femur, you're gonna be good at basketball. Right? Hopefully, that's okay for you too. Or maybe if you're Asian I'm just I'm trying to be careful. If you're Asian right. If you're Asian and your ancestors had to figure out irrigation, you're gonna be good at math because you were genetically selected. Right? My ancestors genetically selected on who could understand scripture the best regardless of if you guys agree with it. So the cards that my race has is high verbal.
So when they play games with you and accuse you of stuff and do all of that stuff, that's the main card that they have as a culture. And whether they're right or maybe they're wrong, you know, I
[02:05:15] Unknown:
it happens both ways. For a deception. We get it. We have magic.
[02:05:20] Unknown:
I understand. Magic. I I really so but that is the strength, and that is the advantage, and you gotta play whatever cards you have. And and that's what they're gonna be doing. So,
[02:05:34] Unknown:
Well, like you said, your, half blood, half relatives are not exactly the most beastly. They're probably not gonna be doing no direct charge on the shield walls today.
[02:05:48] Unknown:
Yeah. So so, you know, I have ancestors on both sides of of the racial conflict, of the race war, the the culture war. So, you know, I'm you know, my parents chose to put me in this position, through their union. And and so I I do my best to try and navigate it because if I pivot too hard in one direction or the other, then I'm I'm shitting on one half of my bloodline or the other half of my bloodline. Right? So that's
[02:06:20] Unknown:
that's that's where I'm at. And Kind of an internal battle going on in you.
[02:06:25] Unknown:
Look. You know, my parents chose to have me. Here I am, and I I have to play these cards. So I I understand your sentiment, and I know there's a lot of friction on both sides. But Actually, didn't mean to grill you on this at all. Yeah. Yeah. I I just I don't even know where the fuck this came out of. Yeah. I just I just try and answer every question openly and honestly to to foment an interesting conversation. But Yeah. I We appreciate it. And and, I'm also trying to answer, you know, the the big j question in a way where you guys are monetized and but but just,
[02:07:02] Unknown:
we're not monetized. We'll never be. Okay.
[02:07:06] Unknown:
But but very well.
[02:07:08] Unknown:
Back up everything on Rockfin because we're we, we're not particularly politically correct. I'm not. If you haven't noticed, I'm Yeah. I might I you know, while I don't hold some of your positions, and I and I haven't we haven't fleshed some of them out completely. I don't know how much time you're willing to dedicate to this tonight. We we ask Marcus and I have another show that we'd like to invite you on that is more of a debate, more of a debate style show. And that you can stay as long as you want today, though. Like, that we're not kicking you out. I'm just trying to say you've been here 2 hours. Most of the time, most guests at at around 2 hours start petering out. And, but,
[02:07:49] Unknown:
It's from bodybuilding. You know? Like, I just Endurance. I I have tremendous endurance, and I used to train 6 clients one after the other and just keep loading them up with barbells. And There you go. And and one of the things I believe is that in order to, you know, you guys were playing Ramstein before. Right? So till Linderman is in amazing shape even at his age. Yeah. And the reason why his his art is at a such a high intensity is because his body is at such a high level. So I think you guys you guys read my book. You know that it's at a high intensity, and I was only able to achieve that, by being in very good shape. And that's that's why I can give you guys, my time like this without without melting.
[02:08:35] Unknown:
Unfortunately, Rachel and Jim have had access to it. Marcus and I and Sean have not yet. But, before we, get obviously get you on the next show, they're gonna pass it along so that way we can Amazing. Look at it and also, be more informed on what you're thinking and how you're viewing the world. I would like you to expand more. You've spoken financially. Obviously, given look given that your attitude and and the way you carry yourself, financial cannot be your only, qualifier for alpha male because, obviously, some, some cuck with working on a computer is making vastly more money than, like you said earlier, you're right you're writing for the construction worker and things like that.
So what would your other qualifiers then be?
[02:09:34] Unknown:
Well, so the thing is
[02:09:38] Unknown:
when you talk about money, right, there's exchange value of what you can sell something for, and there's use value of how much value this object creates. Right? So our economy doesn't this is a Marxist point. It doesn't reward use value the way it used to. I think industrial capitalism really did. So there's a lot of men who, regardless of how much money they're they're moving in, right, they do create a lot of use value. If you're a housewife and you make big dinners for your family, you're creating a lot of use value even though that's not reflected in the GDP. Right? So I think human beings can can sense value and value is different culturally, if that makes sense.
And so I think if you're producing a lot of value in whatever historical or cultural context you're in as a man, I think that's good even if the current dollar economy doesn't reflect that. Right? So if you're back in your homesteading, maybe you're not making any money, but you could be making a lot of use value. If
[02:10:54] Unknown:
does that Just to clarify that. Yeah. That was that was something I was trying to get out earlier. So perfect.
[02:11:02] Unknown:
Cool. They're asking about your age. I wanna say born in 1988, 89.
[02:11:08] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. You got it. Yeah. Yeah. I was born 90. But, yeah, you got me. Right on. Yeah. So, cool. What what other what's I can't I can't see what Chad's asking. So whatever they're asking, I'd be so curious
[02:11:22] Unknown:
to answer that. That's why I've been trying to trying I'm trying not to disrupt you, but also trying to occasionally flash him up on the screen so you can see them without being too disruptive. I I can't see the screen at all. You're you're speaking. Oh, wow. My my my eyes are for reading books. They're not for, like, haunting it.
[02:11:42] Unknown:
They're book eyes. Mhmm. So so but what whatever let me answer a couple more questions and then Yeah. If Chad has more questions and they wanna put in more questions now. Okay. Perfect. Can you just read them to me?
[02:11:57] Unknown:
You were talking about cards earlier. Did you have specific tarot decks that you work with or have learned? Okay. There's the Aleister Crowley deck. It's awesome.
[02:12:06] Unknown:
And then there is Liberty Tarot of the Stars Eternal. And it's the symbols are a lot easier to see because the the woman who Aleister Crowley, I think, drove to suicide, she does she does it in this very stylistic way. But in liberty tarot deck, it's a lot clearer. And and the the tarot deck in Aleister Crowley, I think, is the Sabatean demonic one. So when when you read Aleister Crowley or if you read it, be careful because he could be tricking you into all sorts of incantations.
[02:12:57] Unknown:
I I think Conan Don does that same thing. Yeah. Crowley definitely switched,
[02:13:02] Unknown:
designations on some of the cards and inverted some of the meanings. Didn't switch them.
[02:13:07] Unknown:
Ryder and Waite switched them and fucking Elias Levi. You can't mix that up. Crowley actually put the order back into place. That is Crowley's order is the original order when Ryder and William Right. Right. I forgot about that. Thank you. And then Elias Levi also is the one who first tied the kabbalistic tree to the tarot and put the steps of the kabbalistic tree to the tarot. That included an inversion between the number 8 and the 11. And, really, it made it from a 3 part process to a 2 part process that's more polar more of a polarity rather than a a trinity.
[02:13:46] Unknown:
Did you guys have you guys seen, there's Gershom Shalom, Sefer Yatira, and Bahir? Yeah. Yeah. I've got it over here. I need some Okay. Perfect. Yeah. Because for me, like, that was the clearest. I know there's different interpretations and stuff, but, there was what I like in the Sephora Yutira is you understood every, Sephiroth from the verses in the bible. And, like, there's there's a vav, which is, like, he divided between light and darkness, and that's Hierophant because the Hierophant divides between light and darkness. So in my, digging through tarot, snipping tarot was really good because it tied it back into the bible.
And so I view that as as a definitive source. I don't know how you guys do it, and I don't consider myself an expert, but I think that really helped me trying to figure out what was going on.
[02:14:49] Unknown:
You can take Eris night, travelistic symbolism.
[02:14:52] Unknown:
Okay. I have, yeah, do you guys have meditation? Did you know about this book right here, Meditation in the kabbalah? This one? Ari Kaplan? Yeah. Ari Kaplan is really good, and and there's number squares, and there's very powerful meditative techniques, which, are dangerous because they could really bring you up very quickly, and you can get kind of like a roller coaster feeling. So so if I think the procedure once again, I'm not an expert. I could be getting a lot of things wrong. I'm just starting to dig. Is you're supposed to rotate shapes and construct the you know, this chariot while you're reading your Jewish prayers.
And and there's also number squares, number combinations that you're supposed to be doing. So if you can read your prayers while doing the number squares concurrently, I think there's some kind of resonance from what I understand that puts people into a deep meditative trance. And and I think I think that's a very big secret. There's this Esoterica Kai. There's this he's like, he's he's Jewish, but he really digs. There's a a channel. It's called Esoterica. And, Justin Sledge's channel? Yeah. I really like him. Mhmm. And and I and what I like about him is I know this topic is very delicate, and he's able to provide a lot of information while being delicate and while being respectful, because there's a lot of landmines in the space.
[02:16:38] Unknown:
So have you looked into the dot side of things then yet where you're integrating the dot 3 into the standard Sephirot setup?
[02:16:51] Unknown:
I don't I'm not, like, that good. You know? Like, I I I'm trying to figure out the foundations. You know? And so the other thing is in in Christianity, there's usually, like, a path that's a lot clearer, but Jews love to argue. So it's just a perfect so it's just a constant fight of Jews fighting other Jews in Aramaic, and so there's just a lot to sort. And then when I go to look for external resources, there's just another layer of confusion. Right? So
[02:17:31] Unknown:
No. I posted that definition in the chat when you're talking about it. Yeah. Pill poll. You know? The word pill poll is a word that describes, Jews arguing back and forth in the Talmud, and, it's of course, it's not always straightforward. You know? Everyone's prone to sophistry and trying to get their position across whether it's completely straight ahead or not, and, the Jews are the best at it, period. You know? Like What I would say
[02:17:55] Unknown:
is when you're excluded from most of society the way Jews were, that's a sport. Jewish arguing is a sport,
[02:18:05] Unknown:
and so and so The Irish also, they just like to get drunk before they do it. So
[02:18:11] Unknown:
they they they just it's, you know, if you have a high verbal IQ, it's just something you're gonna enjoy. Right? So but it's for me, I I got the basics. I I figured out the tarot. I figured out astrology. I figured out alchemy. I start, I think there's Julius Zavola. I've been reading his alchemy. He's definitely very anti Jewish, so I if you look at the text behind me Hey. Hold hold on. Who?
[02:18:40] Unknown:
We I got Evola?
[02:18:42] Unknown:
Evola. Yeah.
[02:18:43] Unknown:
Yeah. I got him over here on my bookshelf. Well, anti Jewish is in far as Christian. Okay. Alright. Never mind.
[02:18:51] Unknown:
Well, I mean
[02:18:54] Unknown:
Okay. I get it. I get it. I get it. I I wasn't inside your duality. I get it. It's alright. I'm sorry, sir. I wasn't really trying to construct a duality. My may maybe Oh, no. No. I I that's my fault. It it I get it. Where you're coming from, that is where most of the western world is. So I'm I'm just not there, so that's my fault. Okay.
[02:19:15] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
[02:19:17] Unknown:
You're good. We're at we're at a three level. Yeah. That's why I'm at a three Okay. Oh, sorry. I'm sorry. So so we have we have some viewers who are probably just joining us now, and some of them are, like, 101 basic getting into it. Some are into, you know, 202. Now we're having a 303 and a 404 level conversation. Okay. So we're so we're navigating all of these types of, viewers, and maybe we'll let's circle back and say this is Glow, gl0, and he's written the book, the pillars of wisdom. Jim and Rachel have a copy there. Hold it up there for you. And if you lift it up and you set it down and you lift it up and you set it down and you do that a couple times, you get stronger. So that's your first bodybuilding lesson. Perfect.
[02:20:00] Unknown:
It's a rip for another day. To let you know, our other show is not a cult based, so it would be more of the other subjects. So I we didn't I actually didn't even know you were into the gonna speak a call, and you honestly waded into the deep end of the pool for the occult. Like, this is, like, our legitimately our specialty. We study this all the time, most of us for 20, you know, plus years.
[02:20:27] Unknown:
So I apologize. We didn't even know that this was gonna happen. Well, so so, you know, I've been calling the people who bought my book. And so if you buy my book, I'm gonna call you, and we're gonna talk. I'm gonna see if you like it. And most of my red pill readers, you know, all of my stuff has astrological attributions, at the top. And, you know, a lot of my guys are programmers, and they just didn't see it. And I'm like, it's every image. It's every image. It is. I have, like, Cali from the Cali Yuga. Like, I got the wheel of fortune.
Like, you know, I have the empress. Like, I have a full tarot card deck that's in your house. And they're like, yeah. I just didn't see the astrology. And I'm like, I have astrological distributions in the back. Like, nope. I just didn't see it. I'm like, but how?
[02:21:22] Unknown:
You know? It's like I noticed it right away.
[02:21:26] Unknown:
I mean, it's it's like a big book. Rising
[02:21:29] Unknown:
symbolic literacy and then corresponding one system to another is so important because there's a whole like, the richer, greater realm that we exist in and not the invisible one, like the one you're actually in. This shit's in front of you all the time. You know? The the great big umbrella on the side of the bank fucking means something, folks. You know, it's not just an umbrella they chose, like, hey. Let's use some clip art. We'll flap a flap a umbrella on the side of the skyscraper that's coincidentally 33 stories or whatever. You know? It's around you all the time. We're waiting in it all the time. So So so,
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you know, I've been calling people because I'm like, okay. Well, this is I felt like I've written something different, something very interesting. I wanna see how do they experience it? How do women experience it? How do different cultures experience it? But they they the symbols, they can't see them. And They just start to find more points about it. You you could you could, you know, you could do a whole 400 pager of just symbols, and they're gonna be like, yeah. Just I don't know. I'm like Yeah. How? But but so there's if they're not meant to see it, they're not gonna see it. Language is simple. When a man understands the language of symbolism, the world will open up to them, manly be all. Well, I'm trying to give them the language of symbolism, and they can't see it. So No.
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No. That's why you have this is why you have when I was talking to you at the beginning where I was talking about the difference between exoteric and esoteric, and then I further explained that the the exoteric is needed because the mundane, no matter how much we wanna make everybody into this Atlantean society where everybody's enlightened and they all have interest in becoming, greater people and absorbing knowledge. The fact is is most people just don't. They don't. They wanna get their pecker touched. They wanna punch out a couple kids like them, eat some hot supper, and go to bed in a warm place. That is the end of their wants, and we can't make them want more. So they you have to keep an esoteric level or an exoteric level, which is entertaining.
And so that way, the the vulgar masses will carry that message on, and then the person with the x, x or esoteric mind will then be able to derive them nuggets of gold out of this story that's only being used as entertainment
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amongst others. Yeah. That's Yep. I knew this, and thank you so much. That's an amazing point. And I I knew this when I was told this. I just didn't understand that you could hand someone, like, a book of symbols, and they just like, yeah. I didn't really look at the images. I'm like, it's every other page. So
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You I wish you knew. You probably have better luck with women discussing symbols. That's your high priestess card. Because girls women overthink everything. We look for deeper meaning. It's part of how we're genetically wired. So, I mean, that's why all these movements of, like, baby witches and, like, all this stuff, it's so trending because it comes naturally. It's so easy to market to. It's so easy to harness. It's so easy to control because it comes naturally. And there's been long periods of time where it hasn't been expressed or repressed or I mean, I can't tell you how many women are like, daughter, the witch you forgot to burn or whatever. Like but, I mean, I think that's if you're gonna really market to women, using that symbolic language is smart. Because that's something that I noticed in the art almost right away. It was like, okay. I can look at this through a different lens now, and and I can see it now. You know? Like, I think, I think 175 was a page that I turned to, which was really fascinating to me, the eat or be eaten, because it ties into other stuff I wanted to talk to you and Ben with.
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I like I like 175 because I was interested in, you know, Leviathan and and Behemoth and really the the primordial primordial entities immediately. I was also again, Rachel? Image.
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Yeah. I put a a a picture of it in our chat. So if we could screen share it, that'd be easier. Yeah. We'll get to that. But it does have the symbol for Mars and Gemini, which I think is fascinating, because I really like I like those that combination. I think some people would not. But, so here's the thing with that chapter. It's I found it a little bit polarizing in terms of slave and master philosophy.
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From Hegel.
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Yeah. Which is which is smart. There's a lot of truth and merit to it, but I don't know that it necessarily takes into account something that Ben brought up. You know, there are we call these people NPCs, but in, you know, like, heathen traditions, those people are thralls. That's that is a a vital aspect of human nature. It's of of an important part of human society to have these people that only do what they do, and that's just what they do. And you do you get to pass the this kind of knowledge on through symbols, through art. You know, that's why you have these masses of people who are, like, worshiping Marvel and they think that that's really Thor, you know, because that's that's how you're gonna pass it along to those people.
But, you know, it's I don't know that, you know, some of these you know, the thing with Gemini is it's a very close relationship. It's familial. You know, these 2 beasts, they're 1 and the same, really, even if they're fighting. It's like 2 brothers. It's a brother war, really. Slave and master, and and we've made these things divisive. Our culture has made this divisive when in reality, there are people who have serving hearts. And there are I mean, movies and all kinds of culture has made it this bad thing. You don't wanna be a slave. You don't wanna be, you know, blah blah blah even though they're doing it to us all the time. It's actually a relationship that's vital for healthy communities. You're gonna have people who are like, I don't fight wars.
That's not my thing. And so then you have people who are like, I will fight the war if you don't mind doing the laundry, you know, because I'm gonna be busy training. You know, there's this tribal connection and trade off that no longer exists in our community. And it's difficult to get back to that kind of thinking because our culture really dumps on it. Unless you're watching Downton Abbey, then you're all about it. But, you know, you don't you don't see these things as relationships. You see this as master and slave, and it's evil. And it's like, no. Well, I mean, it it it is it is a relationship. And and when you read have you read, Coach Eve?
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Mm-mm.
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Let's see what my man says. There's okay. So there's this guy, Kojeev. He has one of the easiest explanations of Hegel, and it's it's a dialectic. And so if in these relationships of dominion, the master can become the slave and vice versa, and there's there's a movement that has to happen. Right? And so through revolution, that movement happens, and that's how we're gonna move forward economically and culturally and also, you know, religiously. So, you know, we could talk about Judaism. We could talk about Christianity, and there's these great slave master reversals, right, that I think are key pivotal moments in in history.
I guess I guess the downside of being a master is if you're a master and you speak in master discourse and there's a lot of men who they're meant to be slaves and they start speaking in master discourse, that's gonna lead to conflict for them. Mhmm. And if they're not able to handle it, they're gonna be wiped out because that is the price you pay for uttering certain words. Right? So, I have an extensive amount of Indian clients, and and I, discussed the Indian caste system. And they, you know, they have your view, you know, I of the importance of that caste system. And I think I believe
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so. They're having trouble touching the bobs and vegines?
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There's a little bit of difference there, but, you know, I have a problem.
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Out of those things. Absolutely. Somebody who's a fraud can become somebody higher, but it ties into this esoteric, exoteric. You know, you're gonna have people that's that's that revolution that you're talking about, and that's why some people get it and some people won't. Some people will naturally be inclined to move forward into that next level of being. And some people, it's just gonna take them longer. I mean, think about it like a a spiral staircase. You're gonna have people racing up those steps, and then you're gonna have people who just they're gonna take their sweet time. You know, so it it's just dependent on people's speed, not necessarily whether they will or won't and that they're stuck. Nobody's really stuck. Things are on a spiral. They're always moving.
But but, you know, I think it does have to do with the esoteric and esoteric. When we talk about, knowledge being hidden, that's why. Just like you were saying, you're gonna have somebody in leadership who's got a hold of some truth, and he's wielding his magic, like, recklessly because he doesn't have any sort of background or foundation, and he's doomed to fail. And that's part of this influx of information that's happening right now. They're just saturating the market. Everything's available. You know, you can find all these books on all this stuff. You can it's just insane. There's no I'm not saying we should gatekeep, but I'm not not saying we shouldn't gatekeep. Right.
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I I
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think not saying.
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There's this man, Paul Virillo, and he says the invention of the car is the invention of the car accident. Right? So if there's a freeway, people are gonna die on that freeway. And if you start opening up, esoteric knowledge, people are gonna spiritually cripple themselves or make pacts that they shouldn't make.
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And now you can sell life insurance, automobile insurance,
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and now wizard insurance.
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Yeah. Wizard insurance.
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Yeah. See. The biggest problem is is with these books that are opening these things up, what it's what these books are trying to do is dummy down and make a, a cult for idiots type thing. And the problem is is when that happens, the mundane mind is not able to conceptualize things properly. So you end up with, like, in today's society where this is something you've been probably given quite a bit of pushback on where you have this, hermaphroditic push to society. Well, that's derived from, absolute, misunderstanding from too many mundane people, looking at a cult and not understanding the way things actually function and viewing it with a very ignorant mind. And so there there's something to be said about, not giving that to to the vulgar masses who are gonna misunderstand and misuse what they've been told.
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I think the goal is transhumanism and a path to that. I'm gonna be careful with my phrasing. Is this whole gender situation that is being put forward. So I think there's people who do a lot of bodily modifications, and I actually I have a chapter on transgenderism in the book, which was probably wiped off the Internet. And, I hope you guys enjoyed it, because it's probably some of the most controversial writing ever. But before they can go into full transhumanism, they have to advocate, heavily, body modifications. And if they can get you to buy into the system, I think this is Alex Jones' view, then they could control your body and your mind, and then you'll be a more perfect thrall.
So there's there's games being played on the other side, and I think it's important that we we develop a literacy for those games, I guess.
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I agree.
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I agree.
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Cool. Cool. Let me can I answer a couple more questions, and then I'll I'll run off? Not a problem, brother. We appreciate it. You guys have amazing endurance. So I guess everyone hears a bodybuilder. It takes about 2 and a half hours to get into the That's what I learned. Everyone's a bodybuilder.
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About,
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we don't anymore. We only stay about 3, 3 and a half hours. Rachel's pregnant. Oh, wow. We got a bunch of stuff going on. Same. We used to roll we used to roll about 6 hours every Saturday. Okay. Rachel is 2 bodybuilders because everyone knows.
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Yeah. My secret. Tremendous endurance.
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Ricola.
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Yeah.
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So let's see. Yeah. Alright. I got one more question there. I'm going back up in the chat here. I thought there was one more.
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Yeah. Most of the the the the, religious things were being answered. From the. That was me trying to start Okay. I was like I was like That was actually questions from the channel. I was like I was like, here comes the Viking questions. Here we go. No.
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No. Who's the solar guy? Darius,
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I'm not trying to be contentious at all. These were things from the chat. When I Yeah. The things that I would be We're taking my confidence. About would be on I like I said, we want to invite you on this other show. Okay. And I'm not it's not to lambast you either because I agree with a lot of your, positions. And I agree with some of the things that you're putting your energy into. I don't agree with some of the things that you're saying, but, again, we have a whole another show for disagreeing with people. Okay. Perfect. Thank you. I didn't know, like, a whole another thing. I'm sorry. Go regarding dog cases. Out of the chat, brother. I don't think
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I I don't think, you know, we can talk for 2 and a half hours and fully agree on you know? So I I appreciate you know. And and the other thing is, you know, my my, Maniscope career, I I went after a lot of people. So whenever people wanna debate or whenever there's hard questions, hope you guys saw that. The questions were about,
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like, India, and I guess I'll connect this back to Reddit. So now in current year 2024, there's, there's not quite the women's sphere, but there's a popular podcast called Red Scare, which kinda connects to that Red Scare idea out of Soviet Russia. So it's 2 women in New York, and they have, you know, fans and haters and whatever. So the people that are kinda congregating around that community and many of them don't even listen to the podcast or pay attention to the people that started it. But they started splintering off and having different subreddits on Reddit.
And the reason they were doing that is because they had the disagreements, but also because Reddit moderators had different preferences. And Reddit admins, the owners of the site, want to be more brand friendly. And we have the election coming up in the USA this year. So can Conde Nast, the magazine company, now owns Reddit. So this is a long winded way of saying that some of the red scare subreddits, which are mostly women who are posting women issues types of things Okay. They were inundated by a lot of poo and loo sort of come and go, thank thank you, sir, come again, sort of racism towards Indian men because there's a lot of Indian men and Indian women who are posting in English taking over Reddit and specifically the subreddit. So because they were kinda taking it over, maybe it was just a troll army pretending to be Indian, but it became a race issue, which then took down these subreddits. So many of those subreddits went private. So maybe if we're talking pendulum swinging where, you know, 2016, it was Manosphere red pill men men's rights issues, Reddit's being taken down uncensored. Now it's kind of this other sort of place. So it gets to be weird Okay. Let me window shift over to window.
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Was can you I don't wanna interrupt, but can you ask me a question? Because I'm I'm an expert on India. I am a from speaking to them for thousands of hours.
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And so I guess the the stereotype of Indians working at Microsoft doing tech support, now they're on computers, and now they're interacting with traditionally English speaking social sites. Right. So, like, right so now they're all over on Reddit and maybe a little bit on Twitter. Okay. So okay. Do you have a specific question or I can just give you my experience? Yeah. I guess the question is CAST system, India, Internet, globalism. They're talking now it's traditionally an Anglo American English speaking space, and they're speaking very good English. Right. But people are like, as soon as they find out they're Indian, it's like, poo and Lou, get out of here. We don't wanna talk to you. So
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there's 3 times more Indians than Americans. So there's a lot of them. Right? And the technology has been moving very quickly, and they, before, were economically not able to get on to the Internet, and now they can. Right. So it's just Bollywood's taken over and and sold them? So so I think their telecom companies have done a very good job of giving them Internet connectivity. That's step 1. Step 2 is I've dealt with them extensively and so have the people on my team, and they are colonized and they I'm just going to say they have an internalized racism where they look up to whites and they want to copy whites or their high caste Indians.
And so they have this mythologized understanding of whatever is happening in the United States, and they think it's better. And Bollywood is largely responsible with that. 1 is this, the way the English colonized them, from my understanding, is they had their colonial system, and they're they're used to serving and being very differential. So that happens. And then the women have unrealistic expectations from all of the media that they're watching. And so that creates this cultural mix. The next thing is it's very hard for them to admit fault, and they will double down 2, 3, 4 times before having a complete meltdown. I have 2 articles on Indian men with pretty spicy imagery. I think you guys saw that, because I've dealt with them extensively.
And so this is globalization, and they have a different culture, and they were fed these values. And in my experience, maybe I didn't do it properly. But no matter how much I would discuss, like, listen. Like, you need to get out of your colonial mindset. Like, your Indian goal of your Indian life. Like, it's not gonna be what you think here, and I know immigrants who who moved or, like, Canada is basically Indian now. So they're trying to figure out how to integrate into the Anglo American culture, and they're looking for clues. And they don't understand that they can't integrate as a European American. They need to integrate as a Indian American. But the other thing is there's such a flood of them that they're not integrating well, and some people would argue that they're not integratable.
So
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capitalism has a demand mass. I don't think any people in mass are integratable into any other system unless the 2 are extraordinarily comparative.
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Right. So so the capital Because they're not gonna they're not gonna be surrounded by enough of whatever they're integrating into because they're gonna clump up and stay with each other. Yeah. And then that prevents the process of integration.
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Right. So so a Polish person might integrate within, let's say, a generation or 2, a Polish family. Right? But if if you're not European, it it's gonna I think Asian Americans integrated. I don't know how many generations it took them. Right? But, realistically, you have to understand that the capitalist class needs cheap labor. And so regardless of they're integratable, they're not integratable, economically, they are going to flood the market with them because that's how they're gonna cut costs, and that's how they're going to cut your wages.
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So the way that they're maintaining the system because all the every Anglo country, every white country is literally at a net negative for their replacement rate. Straight up. Without
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straight up. Right. And so you, the white middle class, are very expensive, and they need to replace you with Indians because it's just a better bang for buck. Right? So you could like maybe you like Indians, maybe you don't like Indians. They're not the ones causing it. They're just a pawn that's being shoved. We could argue for demographic replacement reasons or economic reasons, but at the end of the day, that's how they're being used. And so a lot of these spaces are gonna get completely inundated. And then the other thing is when you deal with some of these traditional cultures, which are patriarchal, when that patriarch is removed, when their, traditional marriage is removed, they don't have a structure to replace it.
And they're kind of looking for you to foist a structure onto them, but how comfortable do you feel as a European foisting anything onto? So it's this world of misunderstanding, and I've spent a lot of time talking to them. And they're they have a tendency of being differential for a long time and then flipping out into a big outburst and then running away because they're they're very conflict averse. So if, if you look at, like, beta male berserk mode, that's something that they're gonna do. So I guess if you're dealing with them as an employee, which a lot of people are going to, I would say, get my book because I have the courage to discuss Indians.
Maybe more articles and and how to deal with them, and my company deals with them extensively. And we have Indians who deal with Indians. So online, it's an extensive thing. It's not a one off guy like before. It's it's a whole population that requires specific resources that I really, really tried to build to the best of my ability. I don't know else who who did, but it's it's there's tremendous friction. And yeah. So in conclusion, move to Mexico because they're not here.
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Here.
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So
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the Mexicans aren't going to, you know, they they their police system
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is more traditional, I would argue, in their enforcement. The integration process is gonna go considerably on a different route in Mexico. They
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they're strong people, and they their policing is traditional.
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Yeah. They they integrate it organically as opposed
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to psychology psychologically or something. Psychologically. Yeah. So but but that's gonna be a thing that's happening. And so,
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yeah. I I That's just part of the 5th industrial revolution. That's the 4th industrial revolution. Exactly. And that's kind of the world we're living in now. So we've been talking about high value men. And regardless of Indian feather or dot or Buddhist or Muslim or Jewish or Christian or whatever you are, as a man, there's an idea of what a high value man is, and this is what we're talking about. How do you determine who is a high value man and what is the value the man brings?
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But thank you so much for this conversation. I know we touched a lot of controversial topics and very delicate topics, but I'm really glad to have a group of people who are intelligent and dug through my book really, really well so we could have these amazing conversations. And I'm looking forward to being on in the future. Thank you so much. Thank you. Go on. The website is the pillars of wisdom.
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Buy your copy before they figure out how to censor me. Yeah. This is a first edition copy of a book where book collectors are gonna be wanting this. So buy as many copies as you can, hoard them, put them in safe spaces, put them in canopic jars, and hide them in hills and caves and everywhere. It's a beautiful book.
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Beautiful much.
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I'm wondering if my if my credit card information wouldn't be exposed that stream that I'm actually pushing the button right now to order 1. I would I would screen share, but I don't want everyone to see my, my debit card numbers. So
[02:47:55] Unknown:
It's alright. It's absolutely a gorgeous book, brother. We appreciate you giving us, damn near 3 hours of your time. Like I said, John Roland there in the chat. We would love to him, Marcus, and myself have a show called the liberating dog faced dudes. Okay. We would love to have you on where this it's more of a debate format. Although it's not like, blood you know, it wouldn't be a tangent or actually and we're not even on the same page. Marcus is, nobody fucking knows what Marcus is. And John Roland is some form of Asian girl. I don't know. And I'm obviously an overly aggressive heat heathen. So, you know, you you got a nice mix, and we'll probably get somebody else on. But,
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one of our fun shows again. One of our fun shows is titled should women, vote and should they run for office? Should I vote? I'm gonna just argue against voting. I'm just gonna argue against Bushmont Democracies. And that was kind of the argument we said. You know, women shouldn't need to be in politics and office and, you know, it's that's something that men could do and take care of that, and then we'd have fewer problems. But there's plenty of people who wanna argue against it, so we're always looking for hot, controversial topics for Tuesday nights Perfect. On deliberating dog faced dudes. This is Alright. Well weaving spiders on Saturday night, and we're coming to a conclusion. I don't think a gem got to say the name of the show. This is episode 268.
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Lucretius glow up. Spider pillars of wisdom.
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Thank you so much, guys. Really, really appreciate everything. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Have a good day.
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Incredible. Yeah. That was good. That was great. Do people understand the intro music better now?
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I understood because I wanted to do didn't.
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Even knowing that even knowing what our show is gonna be, that intro was wild, Marcus. That's pretty spicy. Yeah. I'm I'm all set to
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rub it out. Ears. Close.
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The, exoteric meaning of penis into vagina is how babies are made.
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And then having, the the one of the theme songs, the Vaniaja.
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That was our good friend,
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John Rowland. So that was his his actual, personal made original works. Thank you for the great weave on that on, brother. But, yeah, I woulda liked to have gotten more into, obviously, you know, on the dog face, I have contentions about what a what a, alpha male is. You know? Obviously, like, when I look at my herd of animals, the one giving out the best hair and the biggest luxurious hair, he's not the he's not necessarily the alpha male. The alpha male, he runs out when there's danger. I have one alpaca that runs out in front of the rest. The rest all heard up and stick stick behind. He's 20 feet in front, 50 feet in front, whatever.
And he's looking at whatever danger is like a mad beast and screaming at it. And the the further, obviously, for myself, I believe the epitome of of masculine is husbandry, whether it be with animals, whether it be with the land, or with your wife being the the provider and protector and all the things that come with that particular role, that is the alpha male. And if you ask me, no matter how much money you have, if you are that, like, poor people outbreed rich people by far. So you have that going on. You're gonna get somebody that wants really wants you to take care of them. They're like, damn. Let me let me go ahead and get some shelter under that.
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Yeah. I would I'm gonna have to also bounce, but, I did wanna hear a little bit more about that because I as far as his responses this evening, I do appreciate his stance and his view with that. What we see alpha as is going to shift in different cultures. I appreciate that viewpoint because that is absolutely true. Nailing down his specific view is a little bit tougher. But I do appreciate, you know, that angle of things because I think that's smart to recognize for sure.
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100%. Like, somebody like me is probably in the Indian society who was describing extraordinarily off putting. Well, it'd be like freaking letting a pit bull in through a bunch of chihuahuas. Everybody just bellying up and pissing on themselves. Nobody's happy about it.
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Not a fan of inconvenience. Long run, if you don't decide to back off or they don't decide to man up, then the whole thing falls apart. You have to go live all by yourself and work through a proxy. If you know? Because it doesn't work otherwise.
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You know? Exactly.
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To me, I think it's unfortunate that, somebody is doofy and stupid as Vox Day was able to help popularize this whole alpha, beta, sigma, gamma bullshit so that it's the main, you know, t it's not a good language. It's not well, yeah. Teddy spaghetti is the the whole reason that we're all saying alpha all the time and and he's a dip shit. You know, his dad's been pre went to went to prison for being a crook and, you know, and and Vox honestly, if you did get to it, it just kinda followed suit. He was a little smarter about it and, but that's the main reason why. For real? Skibby Can we flush it down the Skibby toilet?
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My my toilet Give it give it no riz? No cap for real? I I had my Or is that just sus?
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That, Alan was the wrestler. I I was suspicious this whole time. Look at look at your notes. The rizzler.
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I was suspicious the whole time.
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Yeah. The the whole whole full mailbox. My request to the chat and everyone on the Internet that ever hears this. If we could come up with a new, a new language, default so that we can talk about how men and women fall into hierarchical structure and not say, that guy's so alpha, bro, or whatever, you know, or that girl. I mean, usually, if a a female, gives off alpha traits, they don't call her alpha. They just call her a bitch. You know. Right? Rude.
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No. At least nowadays, I would say that the taboo is gone where But that's partially because dudes don't like alpha chicks, and and and they don't they don't want to have that recognition. Like, at the end of the day, dudes usually want their chicks to be chicks. And so alpha chicks, dude, don't like that. But but that's the difference between a real alpha woman
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and one of these, like, beta alpha women. You know, if we're gonna use the terms, like, that's not Is that a hashtag girl boss you're talking about? Right? You know? Because I mean, if if a woman is trying to be a man, that doesn't make her alpha. That doesn't mean that she's not, you know, gonna be submissive or, you know, allowing gracious. You know, she's not gonna be at homebody. That's not what that means. An alpha woman does all of those things a woman should do,
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but she just doesn't she doesn't hide it. She's not gonna be doesn't put her up with any bullshit too. That's just it. Yeah. She's not gonna put up with reasonable boundaries that she can check you. She might shoot you, you know, if the circumstances You know? I mean, that's You said something funny, Rachel, because you said, beta alpha together, and I I texted Jim earlier in the week that the most annoying thing to me about this whole thing, and it's just my own personal pet peeve, is that there used to be a grocery store chain in California called alpha beta. So I can't hear any of these discussions without thinking about going to the fucking grocery store. So to me, that's the so now you know my pet peeve. That's that's the real reason I want new language.
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You know? Is alpha beta a sorority or a fraternity?
[02:56:32] Unknown:
The main guy to talk to Wolf Meister. Let's change it to Wolf Meister. I think Wolf Meister is a better word. You know? That guy's a real wolf meister. You know, that to me, that would be better. I don't know what the other ones are. We're all the first impressions on the other ones, but scrub. Yeah. Don't be a scrub. Be a wolf meister, bro. Alright. Well, I love you guys. I'll watch my thunder.
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Move around for a bit. But, yeah, great conversation. Good guest.
[02:57:00] Unknown:
Good guest. Yeah. Thank you. Love your ankle. Going off that that belly. That's awesome. Right? That's The baby girl. My alpha flex. Cool. That's right. There's not a higher flex on earth. That's it. No. That's the one. I don't need to practice making a golem.
[02:57:17] Unknown:
I'm just repeating in ultimate science right now. Ultimate science. Alright. Good night.
[02:57:25] Unknown:
I was gonna ask, Christopher Macintosh, our previous guest about the golem and the author Mayerink and all types of topics. So we'll have to maybe speak with him again as well. You haven't seen the interview Alderson and I did with Christopher Macintosh in the previous stream. You premiered that 2 weeks ago. It's still hot and fresh,
[02:57:49] Unknown:
so be sure to check that out. It's good. I watched most of it. I need to go back and catch, like, the last, 10:10:15 minutes. And I saw you guys smoke a little bit after he left, but it was very good.
[02:58:01] Unknown:
Yeah. I still need to sit down and watch it. I haven't been doing anything but working and cruising through stuff since I got home, and I I really I really wanna be full a 100% attention. You know? Not I can't.
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No. You can't. I can't do it by far.
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Mackintosh. Super smart. The author of Occult Germany, and we wanna get into Old Cult Russia.
[02:58:29] Unknown:
Actually, I think he wants Yeah. We can put Macintosh and gateway all together.
[02:58:34] Unknown:
Get the the, the northern wind, I think. Oh, the northern wind book. Yeah. So let's do that one, and I already asked Mario, and Mario said he would come on. Maybe we could maybe try and schedule that as our return, after Flattoberfest as, like, a return type thing. And, Mario said he'd jump in too to try and because it's like a whole, northern symbolism book and everything too.
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So we're getting into September now. Audience here too is,
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or for you guys, on behalf of the audience, we had an announcement that we were gonna take a little bit of time off. An exceptional opportunity came up to interview this guy and, to talk about his book. Are we still planning on, reserving ourselves from from next week, week after? What do we have planned? Week, we're gonna have flow state
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next Saturday. Cool. Flow state. I don't know if you guys can make it, but we're gonna be get your art projects out and your books, and, we'll do some classic flow statings. Saturday night art parties with the spiders? Nice. Well, it's a flow state. Just worked on reading literature.
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I do have some books I could read.
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That'd be great.
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Pillars of wisdom.
[02:59:51] Unknown:
Pillars of wisdom. I ordered mine. I mean, you know, the the price is high, but I figured, well, after everything he said and you guys giving it glowing glowing reviews, you know?
[03:00:02] Unknown:
Yeah. But I'm gonna have to I'm gonna sadly send this one off to you guys, but I think I'm gonna order my own because I want this book on my shelf. It's Plus then he said he's gonna I put my phone number, and they said he'll call me on the phone. So we'll see what he says in person.
[03:00:16] Unknown:
Get a 1 on 1 tech support call from Glow. Oh, sure. It's gonna be the upsell on the coaching, but I'll talk to him for 20 minutes. I think he'll talk to me in an Indian accent. Right now. Hold on, Kyle. Micro this is We'll both be sitting on a room together. Touch on Bob's. I need to touch Bob's in vaginas. Yeah. No no wheezing of the juice, bro. It's a squatty potty.
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What's up, Layla?
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That was always my favorite Indian, stereotypical Indian voice was, the guy telling Poli Shore that he's not allowed to drink directly from the Slurpee machine.
[03:00:49] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. It was funny to see a lot of these AI images that were being generated, which were absolutely terrible, disgusting, and hilarious all at once. It was a lot of Indian guys outside of Microsoft corporate headquarters in India with just brown streaks everywhere.
[03:01:07] Unknown:
Oh, dude. The I don't know why it's so popular right now. I don't know if it's an op or if it's a organic, thing. But, you know, the fighting against the the Indians online and the Indian men especially and Sure. The terrific pushback. Yeah. There's a lot more of them than us, guys. So don't be surprised if you decide that you're gonna poke the bear and attack all the Indian guys in tech service and other tech stuff. Don't be surprised when they over go side on the bright side, if they ever actually come for us, I'm good for, like, 9 of them at least just there for a moment. Alright. But just a personal note, I don't think that thought really enters into their mind.
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I know. That's how sad they are.
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There's no way. I won't nobody thinks about that. I know. Eventually, I'm gonna go change silent. I attack the American men. Yeah. There's no way that nobody thinks that total America attack American men. They just don't this thought doesn't enter your mind if you're sane. Do high value men ask for coupons and discount codes? I don't know if we'll be able to answer that question tonight, but there's not a discount code w t f. If there is a discount code, we'll find out a letter about the product and the Spire's telegram. We'll drop it in the spiders telegram if there is one. It doesn't seem like a discount kinda guide to me to survive.
[03:02:28] Unknown:
You know? Yeah. Yeah. These are, you know, current on demand. It's a lot of work. Really it wasn't us just blowing them up. Hold it flip through it again, Jim. The book is really a beautiful book. It's not a chintzy ad book. The the layout of each page is very intentional.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. There you go. Like, big picture, like, the The graphic design, the layouts, the font choice, everything is very, very beautiful. I bought it a lot of money. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. And time. This is this is a magnum opus. This is a life's work. And he was telling us how he was kinda competing against his his ancestors, his grandfathers, the other men who had written books and things. So he really wanted to pull out a word in this effort.
[03:03:15] Unknown:
Well, you gotta realize too what he said. Part of the reason why it's good, that you were able to get him on, Marcus, is because he really has been heavily censored. And, that doesn't mean that you have to go agree with what he said. But as we know, information that's removed from availability has immediate higher value because that means somebody desires to remove it from availability to you. You know? And that's really a big part of the conversation we had tonight was that information that used to not be available period 0 no matter what has been dumped on us in abundance now because the world is changing. And so now you can get the and you can get a brand new translation of the Zohar. And you can get a whole bunch of stuff that Sure. You can get a whole bunch of stuff that Sure. You know, never would have been available in any language, let alone English, you know. So things have just changed. So And there's also the quality of you know, if you download a PDF
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and you're reading it on your phone or your screen, it's a digital document. It's so much different
[03:04:12] Unknown:
than a paper copy. You can't even send a white robot lady read it to me. I don't even sit there and, you know, look at my phone like this and oh, yeah. Here it is. I just push the little button that makes it. Then I get the robot lady reading it to you, which is not the same as reading, folks. I listen to lots and lots and lots of audio of stuff, and it works. You know? Good. It's good, but it's not it's not the same as saying, alright. I'm gonna, I'm gonna put my phone down. I'm gonna make sure it's quiet enough in here that I can tolerate the noise background noise level. I'm gonna read. It's a totally different thing. You know? It doesn't mean that they aren't valuable, but dot com.
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That's the name of the website. It's a real website. It's a real book. Of wisdom.
[03:04:54] Unknown:
A real I know it makes you jealous. I gotta write a book, I guess.
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Fucking Sean.
[03:05:04] Unknown:
Well, I got my 10 years. There's more than 10 years. I'm older than him. So, I mean, I definitely have enough information here.
[03:05:12] Unknown:
Well, if he does, where will that book be? Where until that happens, where will it be, Tim?
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We live in your mind.
What is December 2, 6 What's
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up, guys? I, realized we're on hiatus, so we're not really here. We're not here. We had, we had a special guest that, we've been waiting on for a minute, and he became available. So while we're on break, we, took a break from our break to speak speak with this fine gentleman. Glow, g l o. I'm not sure exactly how you want that pronounced. Just call me Glow. Glow. Top right of the list. Yeah. Perfect. Yeah. Just do that. Glow. Okay. So we're gonna have this real interesting discussion, and, Yeah. We'll see you guys at Flattoberfest other than that.
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We're also on Rockfin. Oh. Rockfin.com, Odin's Alchemy. We're all sounding real good.
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Okay. Perfect. Sounding good.
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We're good. We'll get we'll get to know each other after the introduction, but we have a thing where we do the pre the PSP, the pre show poop, so we let it all out. Okay. We send up our balls, empty everything out, and then we're in for the long haul. I think they call it raw dogging it. Okay. Or we're gonna lube up for some action tonight. It's our friend John's song.
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Okay. So come back in 10 minutes.
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We're gonna stay here.
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Gap.
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That she recognized. After she sat in Ijja. She came and sat right beside you. Totally surprised you. Open stay away, stay away, stay away. Shit, I slipped and once turned it straight. The bunnage it hypnotized my eyes I couldn't see straight. Shit was like the wolves, I don't know how I got away. Went in for one trip and got trapped in that place. It'll get you wick, you let it bare skin. Not thinking. This time it really felt like sin because I was in the doctor's office tripping because I can't get enough of the pussy whipping but the shit could really have you slip in the Venaja. Respect the cock.
And tame the cunt. Yeah. Tame it. Take it on head first with the skills that I will teach you at work and say no. No. You will not control me. No. No. You will not take my soul. No. You will not win this game.
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Women are stupid, and I don't respect them. That's right. I just have sex with them. Show me your genitals. Your genitals. What? Show me your genitals. Genitelion. What? Respect the cock. Show me your genitals. Your genitals. What? Show me your genitals. The genitalium. You're talking to me about stuff. Why? I'd rather see your titties. Now you're talking about other stuff. Why? I'd much rather see your titties. I can't have sex with your personality, and I can't put my penis in your college degree, and I can't shove my fist in your childhood dreams. So why are you sharing all this information with me? It's not sexist because I'm saying it in a song. That's right, bitch. Now take off your thong and show me your genital. Should I do it?
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What's up again, guys? You wanna take this? I'm gonna do it.
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I'm gonna come.
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Your genitals. Your genitals. Oh. Join your genitals. Your genitalia. Knock knock. Who's there? It's me wondering why you're not naked. Knock knock. Who's there? Me again. Still wondering why you're not naked? I wanna see your bum. I don't care what you say. No. I don't have feelings because feelings are gay. Something something in the month of May. Bitches love my penis because it's really big. Girls' brains are much stupider than men's are, so they should always listen to us because we're smart. Women are only good for 3 things, cooking, cleaning, and vagina. Show me your genitals.
Your genitals. What? Show me your genitals. Show me your genitals. Your genitals. What? Show me your genitals. I'm
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the one who says yes. Yeah. No. No. Now. Now.
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Here. Live now.
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Because it's universal, man.
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It is evolution. It is animal.
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Oh, Jerry would've loved it.
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We Yeah. There's no other problems. From men.
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Why did my penis cross the road?
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To get to the other vagina.
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Vagina. Vagina. I wanna have sex with your vagina. Vagina. Vagina. E equals mc vagina.
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Do you recognize
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her? The Vaniaja. After you sat in Ida? The Vaniaja. You came and sat right beside her. Totally surprised her. The gym is saying make her nipples rise. Now you're oh, knock, oh, knock, oh, knock, oh, no, I'm on time like a clock. I tick and I talk when the Vania flock like some absurd bird that I heard of in the 3rd year of my life. At preschool food, the madcap and Jay Roman Macon sitting on a 1 footstool. Then again in 4th grade at Larky Pool, thinkin' we was cool. Not knowin' any rules, spittin' game as it came. Not thinkin' about the fame, no not no notoriety. Now I'm the bigger DOG because I saw the moon, and I would like to know it because I love you the truth. I came some sharp ass too. Now I'm a whore wolf wondering what happened. Keep rapping. Gotta be macking, slippin' my neck, sacking in the butt crack while she's laying on the back. And I'm attacking like a white man with newfound territory. If you give it, I'm a take it without feeling sorry. But I give it back. You can't believe that, Jill. You can go find Jack and give it to him on the hill because I know what you're about. I'm sure we'll meet again. Look, the nice it's best to have as a late night friend. Love is for girls Load, load Chloe's website into the comments. Put it on the 3 markets. Ways. Either you have sex with me or you have sex with me. With me. With me. With me. With me. Or with sex with me.
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I have really good sex moves that I Absolutely gorgeous book that you can find at this website
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on the screen.
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Tiger and I feed on vagina. Vagina. Vagina. I wanna have sex with your vagina. Vagina. Vagina. What time is it? It's vagina.
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She realized that she recognized her. She sat and I jumped. She came and sat right beside you. She That should be
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Too big, too small, size does matter after all. Too gross, to climb Too short, too tall, doesn't matter one size fits all. Zugos, zuglein, des schlakbombsalter, Obenzein, schoonesweillein, jostavmer,
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You get Lacan's point. Fantasies
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have to be unrealistic
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because the moment, the second that you get what you seek, you don't you can't want it anymore. Respect. In order to continue to exist, desire must have its objects perpetually absent. It's not the it that you want. It's the fantasy of air cock. So desire supports crazy fantasy.
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And now we're pleased to bring you our feature presentation.
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That that was like the speech hall right there at the end. Like Yeah. That's the end of the most,
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interesting introduction in a long time. Thank you, Alan Marcus Allen, I assume. We wanna welcome, all clear. Thanks for waiting for us, man. We are live now. We couldn't clear the rundown gang,
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so we had to get our friend John to write us a song from 2,006. Nice. The website is pillars of wisdom. Go there now. And we are joined by a very special guest, Glow, a man of mystery. You're on mute, brother. I'll unmute you here.
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Okay. I'm good.
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Hi, Eric. I can hear you. Welcome to your Okay. Thanks for having me on. We are ready to have some fun tonight. You've got a very interesting book. Jim has a copy he'll hold up. It's a hardcover book for those who love occult books, and we love all types of occult books. It's a beautiful hardcover book.
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Thank you so much. This thing is something got illustrations in there. Some of those pictures are just fire, bro. Like, the one with the 2 water with the 2 water beasts. That thing is fantastic.
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I had a whole art team, and I really pushed my people really hard to, bring out the highest quality of this book in it. It's a labor of love, and it was a lot of hard, hard work, both on the writing side and on the artistic side. Thank you so much. This is
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incredible book, and you'll wanna order a couple copies now. It's gonna be it's difficult to get your hands on it. The only way to get it is print on demand as far as I understand.
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I've been a victim of censorship for a long, long time. So, I think print on demand is the safest way for me to get my book out, until I get my, my printing going in Europe and here in North America. So
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Beautiful. So this is the first edition, and we love 1st edition books, rare books, hard to get. You wanna have a few copies on your shelf, pass them down, give them to your sons, your granddaughters, give them up to all the kids. It's good education, good pictures. What really inspired you to, write these down in a hard copy? Your articles were shared on places like Reddit, and then they were removed.
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So I started writing for the red pill. It's a controversial anti feminist community. And hold on. So it's a controversial, anti feminist community, and there's there's different let's say, there's there's different, genres within the red pill. Some of it's more advice. Some of it's more political. The manosphere, it's a place where men go to exchange, figure out dating advice, became politicized in 2013 after, gamergate. And so What? Gamergate. There was, gamergate is the scandal where one of the, I forgot her name, but, basically, she was being paid to, she was being given bribes to give unfair ratings,
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for video games. It was a big thing then in the gaming gaming community. It kind of enlivened all of the people that were just laying back playing video games to be like, hey. Fuck this. We're not gonna just lay back anymore. We're offended. We're pissed off, and it's a pretty severe tipping point. Is that 2013? Was it that long ago? Yeah. It's it's 2013. So so what happened was there was occupy Wall Street in, like, 2010.
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And then from there, to distract the left from attacking the big banks, they pushed SJW feminism. And then later, there was gamergate, And that's what really politicized, a lot of people who just didn't really care about politics or culture. And, I came in, I was a board law student, and I just wanted to write. And I came into this anti feminist space, and I wanted to write. I I didn't really care about promoting anything. I just wanted to write the best articles, and I saw dating as an extension of sociology and economics and religion.
And I I got into political fights and I fought everyone on the red pill because most of them are just trying to make a quick buck They're trying to blame women for all of their problems and they don't understand economic causality, and they definitely don't understand what you guys talk about is religious or spiritual causality. So as I started pushing these deeper topics, like basic sociology, basic economics, when I started getting deleted by Reddit, like the highest levels of Reddit. And then later I started getting deleted by the admins because, you know, they don't have what you guys have of a willingness to read books, a willingness to dig, a willingness to figure out, the the core. Right?
So I I kind of pushed my stuff uphill for 10 years, while everyone was starting to delete it, and I had my own core audience, and I had my own community. But at the end of the day, all of my writings was behind walls and censorship, and so I thought the best way for me to avoid this censorship is to push my book out. And, once my book's in your hands, no one can take it from you. No one can censor it. And once I get my printing presses up, I have a printing press, in Athens, and I might get one in Mexico. They're not gonna be able to censor me. So, you know, I've I've had I've had PhD dissertations written against me. I've had a feminist do performances against me. So there's very strong forces, trying to censor me primarily because of sociology and economics.
But once, let's say, my new, mystical theory start getting pushed out, I'm sure I'll get religious pushback too.
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We definitely like to hear about those. That that that's a interesting subject, and, we're primarily, in a cult type show. The weaving spiders are. And, so that sounds like a very interesting subject.
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Okay. So, you know, one of the things that I wanna expose people to is a symbolic literacy. Right? So, I know there's different opinions on a lot of different things, but symbolism is its own language. And if you go into a church, if you go into a mosque, if you regardless of which religion you look at, it's filled with symbolism. And there's there's rituals. There's an extensive language taking place that's trying to engage with you at the subconscious, unconscious level. And I think one of the easiest starting points is to learn tarot. It's to learn numerology. It's to learn alchemy.
It's to learn astrology and figure out how all of those things come together. Right? And, one of the things my book has multiple layers, but as you guys know, you guys are literate symbolically. My book is filled with astrology and every one of my chapters has an astrological alchemical designation. So something that's about rules or restriction, you're gonna see Saturn and Capricorn, duality. You're gonna start seeing Gemini. And for me, by, you know, you can say my book is a tarot deck. I can start teaching people that language. So when it starts getting flashed in the Super Bowl or whatever the magicians behind the United States decide to do, at least common people can have some understanding and have some acclimation.
So that that was that was my thinking. That that's, I guess, that's one main thing. I I think as things start getting crazier and crazier, and if you see all the symbolism, in music videos and in movies, the more of that symbolism you know, the more you know what, let's say some dark magicians are gonna be doing in the future. So I think I I know some people have different views on religion. That's okay. And I'm not here to push any view here, but what I wanna say is are you? I'm the most controversial religion.
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What's that?
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It's the it's the Jewish religion.
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Oh, no shit.
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Yeah. Wow.
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Yeah. So So what what what branch of do you see that coming?
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Oh. The rabbit? Or Yeah. I like well, so my experience right now has been, Chabad is is very welcoming in terms of making sure that you're observant in terms of Sabbath and that you, as a Jew, don't break your religious obligations that you're you're tied into, that you, you know, you know, my people made a covenant with God, and there's a pact and if you don't follow that pact, you're not gonna live a good life. So they're helpful in making sure that. You know you're within, let's say the pack that we as a people are in but in terms of mysticism, they're you know I've been talking to them and they're they're not helping.
They're not helping at all. They're not giving me anything and. I don't know. I've been looking through the Zohar. The there's a new translation from, Stanford University. I don't know if you guys are familiar. It's called the the Pritzker edition. So if you wanna learn Kabbalism, that's look. I'm not a Kabbalism expert. I'm I'm just starting to dig. So I don't wanna go outside of my expertise, but, there's a lot of interesting stuff on Libgen. Yeah. And in terms of Kabbalism, I'm in a position of digging, and I'm in a position of, within the Jewish prayers, figuring out the Kabbalistic attributions or which spheres they're calling upon in every, prayer.
But by no means, do I have,
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a depth of knowledge in that field. You know? Right. You haven't been practicing for a long, long time and have it all memorized and everything as far as the kebab.
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What brought me to Kabalism is in the red pill, there's a lot of flawed, Matt, and they they have a lot of problems. And in order for me to work with them and understand what's going on, I figured out psychoanalysis. And from there, I figured out Lacanian psychoanalysis, which is Freudian psychoanalysis plus linguistics. But as I started digging within those psychoanalysts,
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and then name? Lacan.
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Yeah. Okay. He's a French psychoanalyst that, combines, linguistic theory with psychoanalysis. So there's a little bit of Europe, Sean.
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I think I've heard his name. I think he's here, but in Europe, he's huge.
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He's Okay. In America, they do ego psychology where they just tell everyone to be more confident and repress, and, basically, what you see in these, American managerial guides, whereas Europe has a deeper psychoanalytic theory. But the point I wanna get to is as I started digging through psychoanalysis, and especially Hegel, I started sensing that there was something religious behind it, and there's something that they were leaving out. And until I started digging in religious texts, I could never get to the bottom of it. And once, I don't know if you guys are familiar of, Lacan's graph of desire. It's very similar to the Kabbalistic tree. Right?
So for me, I started off in a non religious psychoanalysis, but to really, really get to the bottom, you have to figure out what gave birth to it, and it's probably Kabbalism. So, once I exhausted psychoanalysis, I want to dig deeper, and at some point, you're gonna have to cross the threshold into mysticism. And that's that's right where I'm starting to right now. And when I did that, I guess a lot of my team flipped out on me, because it was it was psychologically or spiritually too much for them. Maybe maybe they weren't meant to have this knowledge, and as you guys probably know, some of this information is jarring.
So so that so I I guess where I wanna warn, maybe your your listeners is that when you share truly occult information, you will know because you're gonna receive severe pushback. And it it doesn't have to be anything too controversial. Maybe you're gonna be explaining, Pythagorean numerology or some something light. You're already gonna start getting, getting fought on it, I guess.
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Yeah. I'd say that makes sense, you know, that because you take people, you know, people whether they realize it or not, I would say that their main fear and discomfort is the unknown. That's why we see so many people being willing to repeat negative patterns. And so if you take them into the genuine unknown, not just kind of a vaguely unfamiliar area, but truly unknown space, they kinda get triggered and freak out usually. You know?
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Yes. There's there's religion and there's mysticism. Right? And in religion, you try and help people by giving them a source of comfort. So maybe someone died, maybe some there's some kind of tragedy, and the priest class is there to help people stabilize, and they're also there to help governments stabilize their people regardless of if it's a good government or a bad government. Priest class stabilizes the people. In mysticism, it's kind of like a PhD program. You're you're digging for the truth, and you're gonna start finding things that are unsettling and you don't know how to quilt.
And, some people aren't meant for that knowledge, and, emotionally, they don't have they don't have that. And they're gonna lash out on you because you're the closest person. You're the person who's causing the emotional discomfort. So,
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sounds like a dark night of the soul moment.
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I I guess.
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Well, the terms you're gonna find to explain what you're, talking about is esoteric versus exoteric. Exoteric is for the masses because the masses can't really conceptualize the higher meanings of things, but they also need to be included in the, base understanding so that way it gets carried on. You see this in a lot of, mythological stories where orally the tradition was passed on and it needs to be somewhat entertaining. So that way the common mind can carry it, but hidden inside of that is the esoteric meanings, which have a much higher value that only certain minds are gonna go and seek out.
[00:29:25] Unknown:
Yes. So one of the things that you're gonna find in the bible, and I had a a Catholic friend really lash out on me, is, some of the scholars have figured out which energies are behind every event in the bible. So there's there's a, almost a programming language behind every verse in the bible, and you can see, like, why did Cain come into being? Why did Abel come into being? And I'm not at a level of fluency or understanding to really understand what's going on in those texts that I purchased. But it it's interesting for me that they've been able to peel back that layer and and see the source code.
So have oh, right here. I don't know if you guys know. It's called, gates of verses, and it's it's very advanced stuff. It's by the Arizal, and it it breaks down, Genesis. And every, when God created the world in 7 days, which, let's say, programming language commands, he made, he utilized. And then from there, you can start tracing those energies. Later on, in Kabbalism, which I completely don't know or fully understand yet, the the big part of cobblism is how to make a golem. Right? How can you, animate a a clay being into a living entity?
Among us. And the the theory behind that, like, where does that come from? It's if you understand how God created Adam, if you understand that process, you can utilize that process allegedly
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into creating a goal. Our friend, Juan Ayala, is the, human how do you say? Human colleges.
[00:31:39] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. So so all of the magic that you see or a lot of it, is present in the bible in a coded way, and then it could later be, reappropriated and regardless of whether that's a positive or a negative way. That's a separate thing. But theurgic magic is is magic that originates, from the Bible. And so, you know, I think regardless of whether you're Catholic, or you're Jewish at the highest level, your religious authority or, your clergy will have that knowledge. They're not gonna share it with you. But if you dig on Amazon, maybe you can buy some books that will point you in the right or maybe the very wrong direction.
[00:32:34] Unknown:
So interesting that this book you held up is available on on Amazon. So there's there's some books that seem to be available. Your work has been removed. You've posted free on Reddit. No charge. And you've you've joined the community, and you've asked for people to join in with your work. And this was when did you start doing this on Reddit? About 10 years ago? Yeah. So I started in 2013,
[00:33:01] Unknown:
and I just wanted to fight in the culture war. Mhmm. And the the the more I pushed into the culture war, the more I started seeing, okay. Like, yes. There's big money, but behind the big money, there is, a religious occult practice. Mhmm. And there's an attempt to, bring people down in terms of their souls so they're further from God. And I didn't have the vocabulary to understand what was going on, so I started digging, and through a combination of, Anna's archive, YouTube, buying books on Amazon, I put together this library here and other books to understand what was going on. That's one thing to kinda comment on what you're saying is from my understand keep in mind, I'm not, by any means, a a scholar, so I could be wrong. Don't quote me.
Chabad believes that the the age of the messiah is close. And because of that, a lot of texts, which were only in Hebrew or Aramaic, are being translated now and are available for consumption because they say, we're in the messianic era. All bets are off. Sure. So the book that I held up, Gates of Verses, is a super secret book that was burnt by the Spanish inquisition that would never be available in plain English even, let's say, 40 years ago. So now is a really good time to start buying these books and reading these books. You know, if, you know, if that aligns with your values, I'm not know, trying to impose anything or any religion. But I'm just saying right now, it is available, because high up from what I understand, a rabbinic ruling was made saying that all bets are off.
Let it out.
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So in Christianity, there's the idea of the the apocalypse, the end times, the apocalypse being like an unveiling of information, like, the veil removed from the eyes to see. Do you think that the information that's being published now and made available to everyone has to do with this idea of the apocalypse and revealing otherwise hidden information?
[00:35:27] Unknown:
The way I understand it is when there's a lot of veils. Mhmm. Right? And you can think of God as an infinite power supply, and and you're like a light bulb at the end. And as you get closer to God, you can absorb more electricity. So you're you're actually protected from these veils, and these veils give you, the ability to experience free will. Because if you were in the presence of God, he would just overpower you with his energy. Now when you approach the apocalypse, there's gonna be greater energy fluctuations, and you're gonna start seeing things that, really challenge your free will because, well, if if I can see a miracle, then I I don't have the freedom to be an atheist. Right? I I kinda gotta go with it.
So, one is one is this. The other thing, from what it feels like, is there's a, like, a decline in literacy, so they just kinda gotta get it out. And I think it feels like they're confident that you're not gonna be able to piece it together, so fuck it. You know? Mhmm.
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But Are you feeling like it's somewhat revelation of the method also?
[00:36:49] Unknown:
No. Because it's it it's just all coded. Like, if it was revelation of the method, I feel like it would be a lot more obvious. And here, it's like, here's the 10 spheres. How the here's how they interact. It's still heavily coded. You you have to approach it almost like a chemist. If you wanna figure it out, like, get 10 of your smartest dudes together and pound through it. So they're not revelation of the method seems to be like a Super Bowl situation, whereas here's a text that was, you know, in some, like, bizarre Aramaic dialect in the 1600, then it was then it was translated into English for academic study.
And then through that, it leaked to us, the nonacademics and the nonclergy.
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So in
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sorry. So in your ecological studies and, you know, all of this, when you're talking about, excuse me, how it seems to be there's an underlying religious context behind all of it. This is the particular religion that you you found, or this is the one that you chose and you're seeing it in places?
[00:38:05] Unknown:
You know? Well, there's there's okay. So there's little confusion. So I'm, racially, I'm born Jewish. I got this Middle Eastern beard, and so and so that's that's my religion. With regards to, let's say, the stuff you see in the Super Bowl, there is a inverted perverse Judaism. It's called Sabbatean Judaism. There's Sabbatai Zevi. I'm sure you know. He is a heretic messiah of the year 1666. And, the the the stuff that you see in eyes wide wide shut originated from him.
[00:38:44] Unknown:
Right. I I can recognize that. I mean, in your personal studies, when you say, you know, I see this, is that what you're referring to? You're referring to, you know, the satanic church that we can all kinda see is underlying our economic structure, or are you looking at the economic structure and seeing another thing as being a deeper underlying religion?
[00:39:02] Unknown:
I I see. So there's a Those
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are branches of the same bird at some point. Right? Right. So there's there's a there's a Sabatianism.
[00:39:10] Unknown:
There's probably some kind of Neo Sabatianism, which I don't have all the theory on, and we only see glimpses. And I think it's it's probably influencing the Federal Reserve from their national structures. Right? But there's things you know, a lot of people don't know this, but the front of my book is September 11th. Surprise. Because for me, that's the big wake up call. Because when you understand that September 11th was the largest occult ritual in our lifetime and that there's specific numerology involved in it, once I saw that, I was like, okay. Well, if they're doing rituals on a big level,
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I need to understand the language of that. Where were you on September 11th? And that that happened in 2001?
[00:39:57] Unknown:
Like, in a in a middle school, I guess. Betraying Pokemon cards. Yeah. Yeah. So
[00:40:07] Unknown:
Well, yes. Then I guess I guess what I'm really getting at is, you know, if you're trying to understand the language then, are you studying that Saboteism,
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that that Satanism? It's it's hard. So So
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Or is it the root that you're getting at? Are you starting at the very beginning up until it splits off? I
[00:40:27] Unknown:
which is Lurianic Kabbalism, which Yeah. Which is Lurianic Kabbalism, which Yeah. And before Lurianic Kabbalism, there's the Zohar, and then before that, there's, like, the Bahir. So there's a lineage, and at some point, that lineage breaks off into Sabbatean Sabbateanism, which was excommunicated out of Judaism. There's Nathan of Gaza, who was Zevi's, I I guess, big writer. And but in order to understand him, you have to understand Lurianic Kabalism, which I don't. And I I'm suspicious I'm gonna have to learn Aramaic to really get anywhere on it.
So, you know, in my book, like, I understand basic astrology, alchemy, and tarot, but to really get into the Kabbalism, I I have to learn Aramaic, and I have to understand the Bible on a much deeper level because when they speak, they speak through metaphors. And unless you know the metaphors, you're gonna be completely lost. So it's Yeah. That's what I'm finding.
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That answers my question. Thank you. Yeah. I I feel like,
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you know, there's people who are born into those families, and they just get it for free. And the other thing is what I understand about mainstream Judaism or at least Kabbal Judaism is they just don't talk like, if you go up to a Kabbal rabbi and you're like, okay. Like, tell me about the Sevii guy, and they're like, well, he invented his own religion, and that's that. Or, you know, if you get too close to mysticism, you can get pulled into heresy. And a lot of, I think, like, the Bahir says that and stuff like that. I I might have gotten that wrong, but that the idea that if you get spiritually too high and you use these meditative techniques to talk to angels, there's a chance you're gonna die, and there's a chance that you're gonna be pulled off into heresy.
So that's so but, you know, people are like, you know, the Jews to Jews, as a Jew and as someone who's speaking with people who, are high up, either they I I feel like they legitimately don't know, and I've been digging for that. They just they don't know, and it's it's at a higher level. And I I think the people who probably know this, my opinion, I think it's an uninformed opinion. I've been told there's secret Jewish texts that the Catholics have, and a lot of them speak very good Hebrew. So it's it's somewhere there. So it's it's kind of like maybe there's, like, a classification system. Right? And you know that some presidents have the rank to see it and some don't. Like, you know that people like Donald Brumsfeld and Dick Cheney and Bush senior, had access, or I was told, to whatever, but people like, let's say, Trump, didn't.
So there's some kind of secret rankings up up above. That's what it feels like to me. And so the the in person route, it's not really yielding results. And so I have a team of people who dig through books. And, the same way that I figured out psychoanalysis and, like, psychoanalysis in Duluth, I'm hoping with, enough people and enough reading, we can pierce the veil at some point. But I I think it's gonna take me 3 to 5 years.
[00:44:35] Unknown:
So we started with Red Pill Talk on Reddit about, you know, 10 years ago or so. They have all sorts of, vernacular and jargon and things, one of them being MGTOW, men going their own way. Did you go MGTOW to then read these books, to then write a book?
[00:44:52] Unknown:
Well so one of this is something I'm gonna advocate to you guys. If you get popular, if you do good to a lot of people, you're gonna have the privilege of speaking to high level people. Right? So in my heyday of the red pill, if I wrote an article, 60,000 people would see it. And then I always had an open door policy of come talk to me. Maybe I can help you. And so from there, I started talking to military officers, high level bankers, politicians, lawyers. And through those conversations, they started pointing me in that direction. And that's that's how I started going deeper and deeper, and that's how I knew where to look. With regards to MGTOW, that's mostly for men who, got divorced. They got burned on a marriage, and they don't believe in marriage within an American context.
For me, I never had those problems. I personally, you know, did did well with women. I I grew up in the gym. I, managed a gym, so I always had the speaking ability, and the and the presence. But for me, what was interesting is, you know, when Indian men would call me or when African American men would call me or when Asian American men would call me, for me, the challenge was, okay. Well, how do I get laid as an Asian? How do I get laid as an Indian? Right? It's it's it's playing the game on a much higher difficulty. Right? So so I went through and I studied psychoanalysis to figure out what is the process.
[00:46:26] Unknown:
Are you meeting in their own countries? So you're doing it culturally specific, or do you mean in our country?
[00:46:34] Unknown:
Both. So sometimes how to get you know, like, what does it mean to be a Chinese in Vietnam, or what does it mean to be a second generation Asian? It's it's like spawning into a different level. Right? And you you call these people and you try and figure out, okay, like, what are the critical points. Right? It's it's it's like a role playing game, but you're playing with somebody else. Clarify for people, Glo, that,
[00:46:58] Unknown:
I'm pretty sure you're talking about your coaching business. Right? Like, you were making it you were getting enough traction with online presence. You're you're are you still coaching people now? I'm still coaching people now. And Right. So yeah. Just so so the audience understands, you know, that it's not just articles and writing. It's also offering a coaching offer to help people hold their frame, level up whatever language people wanna use to do that. So where my coaching business is different
[00:47:23] Unknown:
is a lot of people have a very high price point, because they just wanna get as much money as possible. For me, like, I'm an academic. I'm an intellectual, so I wanna get to know my people. And, you know, my book is controversial because it talks about dating within the context of race, like Indian man, Asian man, because that's mostly who came to me. And because my prices are lower than my competition, I had more time with my clients, and I was able to understand them better. So when you when you read my book, you're gonna see a lot more depth because I spoke to Indians, let's say, for 300 hours.
Right? Right. And and, really, for me, my grand grandfathers were very accomplished writers, and so I wanted to outwrite them. That was kind of like a personal challenge for me. So if you wanna be a good writer, your writing has to be detailed. It has to be specific. And by pulling all this information in through my coaching business, I was able to write with depth and clarity. So I guess I guess there's that. And then the other thing with regards to coaching is sometimes I would talk to people who have a crisis of faith. Right? So let's say there's a Muslim who has a crisis of faith or a Hindu has a crisis of faith. Right?
I did my best to figure out their religion and try and put them back on what I believe is their track. You know, whatever God made them to be, that's I don't believe in pulling anyone off of that track. So how do you make a Hindu a better Hindu? How do you make a Muslim a better Muslim? And, you know, I read the book of our Gita. That's interesting, and I see elements of that, in Kabbalism. I think there's a, I think I don't wanna say who got inspiration from who, but it definitely rhymes. If you look at a Hindu system or a Jewish system, there's definitely similarities.
I know if Jews heard this, they'd flip out. They'd say, we're monotheists. We're monotheists. But, I think there's some kind of connection through Persia, which is right in the middle and, entered you know, was a bridge between both cultures.
[00:49:46] Unknown:
Yeah. So I watched the interview that you had with, Anthony Dream Johnson just because somebody dropped the link, because I wasn't aware of your stuff. And you guys covered a lot of interesting stuff in there about, about the grifting and the, you know, pretty much declaring that whole red pill manosphere space dead or desperately in need of a reboot. And, I figured that's not a, you know, bad place for, you know, for people that don't know you, who might be part of our audience, for them to understand that you are coming from that angle. You said some interesting things in my opinion about, how a lot of the people in that space, they have this signature vibration about them, concerning women because, really, they're so consistently, affiliated with women that would be considered whorish or or slutty or whatever. You know? And that versus something not necessarily more traditional, but definitely not that vibe of sex as the main focus, you know, playing the chase game and all that kind of stuff.
[00:50:47] Unknown:
I think so from my research of the manosphere, the manosphere has always been adjacent to prostitution in some way. So for me, I find it morally repugnant. I'm I'm against, but a lot of the PUA people would hire prostitutes, had sex with prostitutes.
[00:51:09] Unknown:
The what people?
[00:51:11] Unknown:
The PUA stands for pickup artist community, Ben. Okay. Yeah. So
[00:51:15] Unknown:
a lot of them are You're not being a very good pickup artist if you're handing her a couple $100 to do it. I mean, we could anybody could do that. Well I thought that was the fucking real easy road. Right?
[00:51:27] Unknown:
So I've had extensive arguments with them about this. You know? I agree. Yeah. If you're paying for sex, you're not alpha. Nothing. You're just buying it. Right? Like, if if you buy a hamburger, you're not a chef. Right? But who? This is disgusting. But having spoken you know, I've been on the Internet for a long time. Having spoken to pimps, what they told me is a person who purchases sex will repress the fact that they purchased sex. Mhmm. It's it's kind of like a morbidly obese person. They will eat thousands and thousands of calories, and then, poof, it's out of their mind. Right?
And so that's how they are. So when a man has a sexual experience, he needs to talk about it with someone because it just you need to release that energy somewhere. So a lot of the men in the red pill space have sex with prostitutes and pretend that they're sleeping with models. And so the way I figure this out is that there's different generations of women. Right? There's gen x women. There's millennial women, and there's the current Zoomer 20 year olds. And they all respond to different stimulus. The and they like, the the gen x women, you could the old PUA tactics were very long form, millennial women less so, and Zoomers, they have no attention span. And so I would write about this, and I'd be like, look. Like, the old stuff doesn't work because these women have a smartphone.
And and they're like, no. Women are women. No. Women are women. They're all exactly the same. And then I'd go through their comment histories and realize that they were having sex with prostitutes. That's one thing. The next thing you have to understand is, where does the idea of alpha come from? Like this, oh, I'm a macho. No. No. No. No. No. It is something that prostitutes feed those men. So if you're a prostitute, you have sex with men, but the problem is after you're done having sex with this guy, he's gonna feel like a loser. Keep in mind, I my Internet experience, I I talk to people who manage prostitutes. They told me this.
Now how do you make someone who pays you for sex not feel like a loser? You call him an alpha male. And so prostitutes are creating this alpha male behavior. So where does this misogyny come from? Prostitutes to make their clients not feel that bad. And, you know, I've written in that space for a long time. I've spoken to a lot of people. They've slept with prostitutes. So so what is this? The next thing is when they say all women are whores, well, you sleep with prostitutes, so all the women you know are whores. Right? And then finally, they have a very materialistic atheistic outlook where they're vehemently vehementlyanti religion. It doesn't matter which religion. Right? So if you go on, like, if you go on to the red pill or any post red pill space and start being a theist of any sort, they're gonna say, oh, that's woo woo blah blah blah blah blah, and they're gonna push you out like that.
So you know that there are a lot of very powerful sexual rituals, and you know that a lot of the pornography has subliminal stuff going on in it, and there's a lot of spiritual warfare done through pornography because you can deeply influence people's minds when they're aroused. Right? And, a lot of magical practices have strong sexual elements in them. Right? And that if we're talking about sexual strategy, that has to go into it. If we're talking about traditional masculinity or traditional attitudes towards sex or pre Christian views on sex, pagan views on sex, there's temple prostitutes. Right? There's Aphrodite. There's stuff like that. But they're they're a hard
[00:55:27] Unknown:
and light the distinction of Roman paganism. That's not all paganism.
[00:55:33] Unknown:
Well, I I I'm just speaking generally. I don't wanna, you know
[00:55:36] Unknown:
Like, the the sacrament of marriage was in as a heathen, that was that was something that was very, big, and and that was something that was part of life. That specifically now what you're discussing is Roman is Roman paganism.
[00:55:53] Unknown:
Well, there there's there's I I'm just saying that the manosphere discusses sex, and sex has been tied to religion for a long, long time. And especially when you're dealing with Indian men who are Hindu, mostly polytheistic, you know, that's that's a big conversation for them. Right? But let's say the hard atheists of the manosphere will never let you they will deplatform you before you ever cross that threshold, of of speaking on any of these topics. So they're it's not that that they not only do they not believe, they viciously fight anyone who suggests an alternative.
And even if that alternative you know, if you're a Hindu, you're born into it. It's also your race. Right? You don't have anywhere to go. If an Indian man says, I'm not a Hindu anymore, you're still a Hindu. You still look like it. Right? So or, like, if an Arab is considered a Muslim even if they renounce. Right? So a lot of the sexual conversations that I need to have to help, let's say, non European men are completely purged from the manosphere. So that's I don't know.
[00:57:16] Unknown:
So I guess Above and beyond your your advice given to, western the western world? It's more so than that, Purge?
[00:57:29] Unknown:
I I'm saying, like, if you're in my position and you have men come to you or different races and different cultures, you need to help them within their belief system because it's not your like, you trying to change your belief system even if you disagree with parts of their religion is outside of the your balance. It's you don't have clearance for that. Right? So the next thing I wanna point out is the Internet is actually very Indian and very Muslim. Right? So if you put yourself in this coaching role, you need some kind of cultural familiarity, and long term, you're gonna need a religious familiarity.
So that that definitely pulled me, into understanding different cultures so I could help people within their culture.
[00:58:16] Unknown:
I think that's wise, and I like that about what you've said so far. And I did listen to that interview as well. So, my question is, if you could sum this up too, I would really like to hear your definition of what it means to be an alpha and what masculinity is in your book. The definition of masculinity dives right into surplus and economics, which is very interesting to me. But I would like to hear you expand on those two definitions. Okay. Well, first of all, thank you for doing a good deep reading of my book. Like, I'm really touched.
[00:58:48] Unknown:
So so really thank you for digging because, you know, my text is deep in some parts. In, what it means to be a man changes depending on which economic system we're in. Right? So if if we have a traditional view of masculinity, say, we pick a period in time and say, that's what it means to be a man, you're you're holding on to a carcass effectively. So in order to create a family or provide a family, you need to understand in what cultural system you're in and which economic system you're in. And you need to play the game as productively as possible. So right now, we're ending the 3rd industrial revolution, and we're moving into a 4th industrial revolution of, automation and robots and chat GPT and stuff like that. So if you want to, afford the resources that will allow you to have a family and whatever cultural setup that is, you need to get ahead of that revolution.
And I have a problem with conservatives because they're gonna hold on to the vestiges of the previous revolution, and they're gonna go down with the ship effectively. They're gonna hunker in a bunker, and they're gonna go down with the ship. So you have to understand that values are culturally and economically contingent. And as we move into new systems, those values will evolve into something different. Right? So there's there's kind of a a hard line neurotic behavior that you've seen in industrial societies that our great grandfathers had from working in a factory.
And now we're going to call it Taylorism, or Fordism. Then there's a post Fordism, which is a 19 eighties, like, a Lundberg office space culture. And you can see how masculinity evolves depending on which economic system you're in. So I I wanna say is if you wanna succeed as a man, you need to be ahead of the curve. You like, what what does it mean to be male? It means that you're chosen by a woman, and you're chosen by a woman for your success economically or or sexually. But the game keeps changing. So to be a man is know which game is being played and change with the game.
And so I know the manosphere is a conservative space, but in my eyes, it really, really shouldn't be. And my book talks about economic change and that you're either gonna get ahead of this 4th industrial revolution or you're gonna get plowed to death by it. Like, let's say maybe a lot of truck drivers are gonna get plowed to death because they're not gonna deal with that automation. They're not gonna be able to reskill. Obviously, not everyone's gonna make it, and I from my vantage point, I just read books and explain them to people. But if you can get ahead of it and if you're aware, you have a higher chance of making it.
[01:01:44] Unknown:
Does that answer your question? Yeah. Thank you. I I do appreciate the versatility that you're speaking of about men, And I do think that's pretty good advice. You know? So yeah. Thank you. I know Marxism
[01:01:59] Unknown:
isn't welcome in the manosphere, but I'm a Russian, and so I'm well versed. You're allowed. And so and so, you know, there's Dave Harvey's Capital, and the manosphere likes to talk about the sexual marketplace, but they're economically illiterate. And I push Dave Harvey's Capital, and I'm like, you need to understand what what is use value, what is exchange value, and how commodities, including people, can be revalued as we move into different economic systems. Right? I think everyone needs to have that conversation, and I know there's a lot of terms that are really, really unfashionable, but, I would rather introduce people to unfashionable concepts than have them, One of my clients' fathers was a VCR salesperson, and, he didn't switch over to DVD, and then he, jumped in front of a train and killed himself.
And so you need to get ahead of the change, and you need to be economically literate, so so you don't end yourself or you don't fall into that kind of nihilism. I know that's a little dark, but sometimes people need that darkness to push them.
[01:03:13] Unknown:
Right. It's a good example. It's really extreme people are wondering. Yeah. I I think go ahead, Rachel. Please.
[01:03:20] Unknown:
Oh, no. I'll be I'll be right back. I have more questions, but I really do have to put the ducks to bed, so it'll take me a minute. Oh, okay. Yeah. I hear you. That's okay. That's okay. It'll be just a second. So we're talking about
[01:03:33] Unknown:
talking about SMV, the sexual market value, and what is a high value man going into the 4th industrial.
[01:03:41] Unknown:
Well, let's let's have, like, a difficult conversation. So there's different men and there's different economic classes and there's different races, and we live in a multicultural society. Right? So how you present is going to be dependent. Right? And so I've encountered a lot of Asian and Indian men who try and imitate white men, and there's white men who try and imitate Asian men, and they come across as a strange knockoff. So it's important to say that, okay. Like, what kind of car are you, and what are you selling specifically? And sell to that.
You know, like, if you're a Toyota, say, okay. I'm easy to park. I don't break down. I don't require a lot of maintenance. Right? You have to know what you are as a commodity and sell to that and not try and put, let's say, monster truck tires on a Toyota.
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So it's in marketing, go a USP. Right? You know, you you need to know what your unique selling position is and not try to go outside of it. You know?
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You would think that in the manosphere, they would have more economic conversations because in the US, you know, marketing and sales is very, very well developed. But when you look through the red pill, it's barren. You know, where's all the theory? And they're so focused on hating on women. I get it. There's divorces, whatever your girlfriend treated on you. I understand. But why can't we bring all the theory that I have, that you guys have to help men out? You know, even if you've been burned, even if you feel bad, like, let's let's do our work as academics, please. And so I guess now I'm trying I don't believe I'm changing my message. I'm trying to find a new audience who's more intellectually inclined.
Yep.
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I'm I'm So what what's the main reason you felt like you got censored? I mean, Ben, if you were trying to pop in there first, go ahead, man.
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No. Go ahead.
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I'm just curious, I mean, because, you know, did you feel like it was you were bringing for you know, I I haven't followed you, so I don't know well. So a lot of my questions are rudimentary that way of, like Okay. So you were bringing extensive articles. Right? You were bringing, a lot of meat and potatoes to the table. So but then you're experiencing censorship. Did you feel like that was because people were feeling threatened and were personally taking it personal? Or was it the specific things that you were bringing to the table that they were like, this can't be this can't be here. You know? Okay. So there's there's 2 things. The first thing is,
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I grew up hating Hillary Clinton. You know, there's a whole thing with the ball. And and so I had a chance to take my shot. Mhmm. And I directed the red pill audience. I led the the largest Trump community on the Internet, and I debated and defeated a, network host. Her name is Samantha b. Mhmm. And so Who's on Comedy Central? Who's on Comedy Central. Her career didn't pan out. I think her husband is doing better. But the Democrats had a game plan. And because this is the 2016 election election was the first YouTube election. There were a lot of tactics that I knew from the red pill, from Reddit, from YouTube that I brought into the election that the Democratic party with their, I don't know, 1,000,000 or 1,000,000,000 of dollars wasn't willing to do deal with. So they they did basically, like, a network analysis, and they saw how, how the red pill affected the election by bringing out, let's say, conservative disenfranchised men who normally wouldn't vote. And they're like, hey, yo. Like, no. No. No. Like, you can't be using our platforms to pivot in a way we don't like. That was so that was a lot of it, and I think I was censored at a very high level on that level.
The next thing is what I believe is when we're in a period of chaos, that's when social structures are the most malleable, and that's when it's the opportunity, to really push. So you can say that you can make a lot of money when there's blood on the streets as an investor. That's true. But for my audience of 20 year old males who are trying to get laid, during the pandemic, all the social structures are weak. They can make a move. One of my controversial articles is on Ukraine. I think you guys read it. And it's to say that, look. Like, these women are fleeing war zones.
They're entering. You like it or not, you the war or not, and that's an opportunity for you to, I don't know, to seek short term relationships or long term relationships. Right? I I don't control these men, but regardless, it's an opportunity. So a war is an opportunity economically, and it's also an opportunity sexually. And and regardless of whether or not you agree with it, let's have that difficult conversation. And they're like, no. No. No. I don't wanna have a difficult conversation. The reason why they don't wanna have a difficult conversation is because for them, sex is a means of escape. It's a means of escape escaping from their job. It's a means of is just escaping from their reality. And to say that reality has an impact on on sex, that really, really hurts them. So they're like, well, no politics in the, you know, in the sex conversation. Well, politics and sex are always linked. Right? So so those two things, banned me, like, got me pushed out.
And, the other thing is to keep a conversation fresh, you need to push. Right? So, like, let's say we're having an amazing conversation. If I come back on later, this has to be something completely different. We have to push, push, push, push, push. Right? Like, in bodybuilding, we need to challenge the body. And as a writer, as an artist, you gotta keep pushing it forward. And they don't want to. They want there's disenfranchised men. They wanna keep collecting paychecks from them repeating the same stuff. So they wanna minimize their labor expenditure, I would argue. So those factors, if that helps.
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No. That's great, man. Thank you very much. Yeah. So in 2016,
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that was the year of the great meme and magic war. Frogs and Donald Trump and such. Were you involved with the meme magic at all in some ways? So the those memes were first used
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against s three w feminists. And they they the s three w feminist and Hillary Clinton, it's same people, same demographic. So I knew those tactics were gonna work, so that's what we pushed in 2016.
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So were you affiliated with the Donald? I mean, you said you were part of the biggest, Donald Trump The Donald. Yeah. So I ran I was I was number 2. Oh, interesting. I didn't okay. So that's, yeah. I used to I used to pop in there sometimes and look what was going on here long, long ago.
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So they they were constantly trying to ban us, and I was doing everything everything I could to skate that line of keeping you interested while not getting banned. And we ran it through the election as much as we could, and then they started posting against police, stuff like that, to really try and get the thing banned on under a false premise. And that's how they were able to get rid of the the largest gathering of, let's say, right wing or anti globalist, voters.
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So I don't remember what year, but I remember they did finally kill it. Go ahead, Ben. I was just saying, you know, they did finally get rid of the Donald. I remember I didn't go, like, follow the drama and the fallout, but I know that they did finally successfully Conde Nast finally green lighted, getting rid of it. You know?
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So our community, the because we delve more into the occult community, for us, red pill and blue pill have a different connotation than what you're using. So for us, it's more of people that believe the mainstream story versus the people that look at the undercurrents of what's happening and those and so you're you're talking about a a different set of things. When you're speaking red pill, can you clearly define what the objectives of the red pill community are? And then further, can you define where your exact deviations from that prescription
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are? Okay. So when you define the red pill, it's kinda like defining the United States of America. Right? The United States of America is a different place depending on on what time you're in. Right? There's a Ronald Reagan America. There's an Obama America. Right? And the culture shifts. So there sorry. My chair is swiveling. So there is the early PUA manosphere where from in the 2000. There's a lot of programmers that make a lot of money, and through their money, they need to figure out how to do family formation, and it's still mostly heritage white America.
That's that's the early red pill. There's the early 2010 red pill where we're fighting SJWs. Okay? And so we're in a culture war. And then there is, let's say, the the late red pill where it's political, it's it's parasitic, stuff like that. My my deviation is I brought Marxian economics into it. I brought, psychoanalysis into it, and so I brought a European continental analysis into the red pill. And that doesn't change the mission statement, but they are devoutly Kantian. They believe in ego psychology. They hate psychoanalysis, and they believe in, Keynesian economics to the detriment of anything else. So they don't know about base and superstructure, nothing like that. For them, everything is very segmented.
So just bringing in European systems of analysis, they don't wanna know. They're not interested in that. The original focus of the community was to help those programmers, get laid. The current red pill is focused on maintaining their celebrity status amongst dorks. For me, I think sex and dating and marriage is an interesting topic, and I wanna discuss it economically, religiously through every lens that I can find, because I think there's really fascinating conversations to be had. So my desire to dig more is is more work than most of the, creators are willing to do. So I price them out. Right? So if if if you're in car detailing and you do a much better job than everyone else, you make it you're gonna make everyone look bad. Right?
So I make everyone look bad, and by pushing me out, they don't have to work as hard. So so when is this the next thing, kinda earlier to your question, when when people enter into a relationship, that relationship is a precursor to how you're gonna raise your family, right, and what kind of child you're gonna create and what kind of culture you're gonna bring to your child. Right? So by making sure that a child is blue pill or holds on to globalist values, you create a future globalist. Right? So since a lot of women are globalist leaning, one, they're not gonna have children most likely.
But, 2, if they do, they're gonna be raised in globalist values. So I think that's where our definitions of red pill converge. I I don't think the difference in our definition is is as big as it might feel.
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Yeah. The second half of what you're talking about does seem to be more aligned with, our community a little bit. Again, especially where you're talking about politically where, but, it's the dating crossover where that would be probably doesn't have anything to do with our community in any way, shape, or form.
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Now when you say There are some people that are aware of it. You know? There's there's definitely young guys trying to get laid, and and they're gonna land on pickup artist information and that other red pill. You know? There was a pretty big documentary, wasn't there? They kinda changed. It moved the red pill from more of the, matrix understanding, you know, to to choose the higher truth and then specifically narrowed it down. Wasn't it like a Netflix documentary or something that kinda pushed the definition over towards the dating and
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There's this woman, Cassie Jay, who I spoke to, like, 10 years ago. She was very nice, and there were a lot of these PUA people who, no. They were there there were, marriage marriage rights activists. There were divorced dads that got burnt by the court system. And, on a personal level, they were kinda boring. They didn't push theory, and I know they were herbivores, I would argue, if I'm I'm trying to be kind. And so that's what it started off as. But then, you know, I I lift and I read, and me and my friends are aggressive. So we kinda chase them off, and we made the red pill, have more fiery discourse. And they were they were just used to people agreeing with them.
And then now what you see is there's Andrew Tate who I think you guys know very well, has a career in promoting prostitutes. And, before Andrew Tate, their the the prostitution online economy wasn't as centralized, and he has, really cornered the market. So if if you're gonna if I have to say something positive about Andrew Tate is there there are Romanian women who, benefited from a lot of money because of him, and they can live lives And that I I don't wanna fully defend him, and I don't wanna fully attack him. But because of his social media presence and because of his money, he was able to fully take things over because he has a very efficient, industrialized process.
So now the manosphere is Andrew Tate, de facto, because of how good his processes are, to the detriment of any other creator. So so to kinda go back to regardless of what your position is, your delivery system has to be the most up to date system. Otherwise, no one's ever gonna hear you.
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So I'm curious, where you stand on homesteading and things like that, because we we talk a lot about things that would be viewed as traditional on this channel. That's just because there are pagan values in there. That's I mean, that's what it means. It's pretty traditional. But, you know, I mean, in your in your book, it seems that your solution is to immigrate and work remotely, and which creates a completely different culture. So would you say that homesteading and things like that fall into an archaic way of being? Because it's very heavily promoted right now.
It's kind of on trend, but it's also very dangerous to the system. So I think they're letting people do it, try and fail, and then, you know, reject it. But, you know, where where do you stand on that? Like, what do you think?
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What I feel is that the purpose of the United States is to crash and burn like a phoenix. And when you start reading Freemasonry, they are going to crash the United States. They're they're dead set on crashing the United States. And so I'm not against homesteading. I'm really afraid of living in the United States because the same way the globalists crashed Soviet Union, I believe they're gonna crash the United States. So if you if you do homesteading in a country that the globalists have not decided on crashing, I think that's a good idea. But and and I think you might be able to blend in better in Latin America because those countries, the globalists are investing in.
So
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I just got it.
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So so just if if you look at how they how they how they designate the rural, let's say, right areas, they they have a plan to edge you out, from what I understand, with water, with rights, with their federal agencies, the where Latin America is strong is their federal agencies aren't as powerful. And so it's a lot harder for them to do stuff like that, and the communities are a lot stronger, and they're less beholden to the federal government. The the United States government is very powerful because Americans have gone to war repeatedly, and all of the tactics that they learned in war, they're gonna bring it back. It's called the colonial boomerang.
Right? Latin America, from what I feel, from what I've seen, has less of that. So the government that I think is the scariest government is the United States government. So so, you know, there's a lot of people who are homesteading, but just where you're homesteading and what's your political climate. Right? Because it's when you call yourself a homesteader, you're taking a political position, and which government one is the most opposed to understands you the best. Right? Because I I have a whole discussion on how well can the government quilt you. How well does the government understand who you are? The better they understand who you are, the better they can fight you. Right? So and the United States has very, very competent agencies who understand you very, very well. Right? So so, obviously, I know people in the federal government. They're they're very competent people, and and they they know everything that you're saying, and they know how you're saying it and how you're lying.
I'm not saying you're not gonna win, but they know what you're doing. Right? They they have files on you. There's Department of Homeland Security documents on whatever you're doing, Whereas some of these countries are less advanced, and, you know, maybe you're gonna be safe, maybe you're gonna be, you know, not. But
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you don't think that the, lack of arms, the one most of those countries is gonna create an issue? Because that is the one advantage you got in America. Wait. No matter what a libtard wants to say that that in American public, you can't just start
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murking the American public. That will get bad. It's not about murking the public. They're going to slow grind you through water games. Like, if if you look at California, how did they get rid of the the the farmers? Did they shoot all the farmers? No. They played a water game. Right? So they're gonna be playing zoning and water and, like, wildfire games with you, and they're gonna slow roll you out.
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Clay Nicolson in Chinatown.
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You know? Exactly. So so there's a whole water politics that they're gonna play. I know they're playing water politics in Chile, so I'm not well versed in homesteading. But if you look at Duluth, there's there's different kinds of warfare, and I think I discussed this in the book. Right? There is a kinetic warfare with guns. Right? Then there's an information warfare. Right? Then we can talk about certain, how do I put it, doom juice. Not gonna say anything. It's mentioned in my book. Right? So that's a new kind of vector for warfare, but there will be a water warfare.
And in the Middle East, they do play water warfare. So, just be mindful that that could be their primary vector for attack. And maybe they're not gonna get you in your generation, but they might make it hard for your children to inherit the house so they can edge you out, in that way. Right? I know how much communism you guys have read. Right? But there there's a a a percussive game, but there's definitely legal games, and there's a lawfare that they can play with you. Right? And they have a very robust lawfare vector. I know a lot of Americans have a a gun fantasy, and the federal government knows you have a gun fantasy, which is why they're not gonna come at you through the gun situation. One is this.
Other countries understand that if you go to Latin America, they have certain rules on the books with regards to firearms, but the situation on the ground is completely different. Once again, I don't wanna speak to that on camera. But from my time in Latin America, that's evident. So just understand that they have huge, huge think tanks. I've had the privilege through my Manosphere experience to speak to some of those think tanks. And, there is hold on. There is George Resnick hold on. Look at you. So I have this book right here, collapse.
It's called, Reza his name is Reza Negrastani. So I think this is a good one for you. There's an article about how Iran, under the Shah, used manipulation of water to domesticate their nomadic population. Right? I don't know if you can see that. So and the Shah was controlled by the CIA the whole time. So I think that's what they're gonna do. So as a homesteader, maybe read that book and and read how they transformed a population of nomads into city dwellers through water manipulation.
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Do you have a favorite James Bond movie?
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Favorite James Bond movie? Mhmm. Oh, man. I have James Bond here. Sorry. I have everything. I just I just binge everything. I don't know if that's why you asked. So oh, my camera. So my, I like the first Daniel Daniel Craig one. Casino Royale? Yeah. I I really like the beginning. I I really like this return to a gritty transpond. Mhmm. That was really good.
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But
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oh, can you fuck with the camera? Sorry. So, I mean, for me, what I like about James Bond is I I I like the it's not so much oh, we did it. It's not so much about the story for me anymore, but I I really like the costumes. I like the cars. I like how they put it together. So I kinda look for other stuff just because I feel like the American writers have been so exhausted that they really don't produce to the level that they they
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did. In in terms of male role models throughout, you know, history, the last few years with this franchise of James Bond, He was sort of the debonair guy. He had charisma. You know, he could handle women. He was a spies. He had license to kill. He was a dangerous guy. And sort of that role model in film is that, dead now with the last film. You know, they kind of killed the franchise. That sort of male is no longer gonna be popular in that franchise. I I
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I I I love this pivot. I think what happened behind the scenes is that they were using James Bond to to recruit into federal agencies. Right? So when you talk about James Bond, it's a film made by the US government for military propaganda, which they do really, really well. And I think the American population is really shifting. I know the combat arms are still white heritage Americans, but during the pandemic, they really pushed those people out. They pushed out a lot of my friends with that mandate, trying to speak carefully.
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Mhmm. So
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I don't think they have that same demand for the same kind of person.
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Sure.
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And they
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So look at Mission Impossible and Jason Bourne, the American hero versus a British hero, but they're still kind of for a western establishment.
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Before they collapsed the Soviet Union, they were playing a lot of really depressing films about, like, alcoholics and orphans and stuff like that, and they really demoralized the Russian population. So I think before they really collapse the US with the collapse of the dollar, you might see a shift in the film as a form of psychological warfare because that's what my parents experienced. So I would say, watch out for that. You know, my family experienced one collapse, and and and George Soros actually participated in that one. So definitely watch for that, and that's why these strong you know, in Soviet cinema, there were strong heroes. You know? There were people who were fighting for the rights of women in Central Asian Republics. Right? So those women didn't have to wear burkas.
It's called, like, sun in the desert or something like that. And then those heroes started being pulled back, pulled back, pulled back, and the films got darker and darker and more depressing. So understand that they could manipulate that psyche through through the films that they're doing. If you look at the latest Star Wars, they they murder Luke Skywalker. It's it's a colossal wreck. So understand that those films are a, a psychological warfare that they might that could be a vector.
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Do you have any thoughts on the Dune franchise?
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That's interesting. I like like the art. I don't like when I read Dune, I don't like it because it's he he's too creative. You know? Like, he he has his own terminology for everything. So in my in my book, I try and I try and write for, like, a construction worker. I try and, write a a common man's language. And I I think Dune is interesting as an experimental work Mhmm. That, expanded the sci fi universe. But,
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you know, I Dune being kind of an inspiration that maybe inspired Star Wars in the franchise, and there's a lot of economics and economic warfare in the trade guilds and the spice being an important commodity. This type of thing might be interesting to to men. For me, that's interesting. I think Dune's interesting in that it opened up the genre.
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Mhmm. But I don't think he got the flavor profile correct or at least or at least for me, he didn't. So but I I I appreciate the creativity, if that makes sense.
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We've been asked to ask you about what you, your feelings on NASA.
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So the space agency?
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Well, so oh, I had a girlfriend who was a vehement flat earther. And I, you know, the I think the most convincing flat earth arguments are, the flight patterns of it's I think it's like Australia to Argentina. They don't go in the direction that you think they would. So that that's the most convincing flat earth argument I've seen. Some people believe the the moon landing is fake, because they needed to score 1 on the Soviet Union. So there's a lot of space warfare. I think in Hawaii, they did a space laser allegedly, and, allegedly, there were California wildfires, which were space laser.
You know, I I'm not saying any of this is true. The news, anyways. Direct energy weapons is the theory, anyways. It's dying under the day. It's a James Bond movie plot. Right. So so there's a NASA military application. Mhmm. And so they're definitely doing stuff there, and there's definitely games there. So it's I think they're stealing a lot of funds and reappropriating them into black military budget. So in terms of deceit, that's that's something that you know, if if I had to point at something that's most likely true, it's it's gonna be something like that. And then, also, there's gonna be a fake alien invasion. A lot of people believe that. So the maybe that's something that they're putting together.
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Yeah. It's the Werner Von Braun.
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Yes. I do. So,
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you know, when you were on that interview with, with dude, he he started to ask you about your, username, and it just kinda faded away. And so I'm still curious just out of sheer curiosity and selfishness
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about what happened. Is yeah. Sorry to interrupt you. What happened is early on in Reddit, I had a troll account. And I would you know, I chose, like, just the most obnoxious username of gay lube oil because they're smuggling steroids into Australia. And and I thought I thought it was funny because I could post on leftist subreddits and right subreddits, and I would just, like like, I would write like, I'd write stuff. Like, my first article on Reddit was, I'm looking for lesbian dating advice. Hey. I'm a lesbian. I wanna climb a palm and collect dates, and I don't know how to do it. And I post this to a bunch of lesbians.
And and I was curious, like, are they gonna, like, address me as a lesbian or, like, as, like, a fruit collector? And so, you know, I was I was, like, 22, and so I wanted to cause problems. You've got dates. And then and then later on, like, there's all these people who took themselves super seriously. Yeah. And I'm like, you're talking about sleeping with women. So whatever. And and
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Our video background, for those who don't see it, is the actual lube oil. It's the pink lube oil, meaning it's the gay lube oil background that you have that we have on our stream tonight. Yes. So you said, I think of a lot of people probably don't have the deep meme lore of knowing that some was it in New Zealand or Australia? Some guy, you know, you received a package. It was steroids. They they wrote gay lube oil on that thing. And so then his mother, fell under the belief, the false belief that he was a homosexual because he was trying to get steroids. Right? I think that's it. Yeah. So so, you know, I I've been in the gym bodybuilding community for a long time,
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and, obviously, they all sell steroids. And so one of the hardest places to receive steroids is Australia, and there's a lot of games that they play. Like, they'll hide it in routers. They'll hide it in creams, because Asia's Asia's right there. And so there's a huge you know, they can make the steroid raws in China, and they really wanna send them to Australia. And so they've in the bodybuilding steroid community, which is synonymous, I think you guys know, they've been getting increasingly more and more creative. And so so for me, it started off that that way, you know, I'm heterosexual.
I I I made a troll account, you know, back in the day. Right. There were a lot of troll accounts, and and I never switched. And I I would you know, like, I've been kicked off of Reddit because I like I like to troll, and my articles are troll ish even though they have a lot of truth in them. So that's that's how I got my username. But, yeah, that's that's my No. Thanks, man. I appreciate it. That's that's pretty damn funny. Yeah. Thank you. I'm glad you appreciate it. I think Rachel had, like, more questions for me, and I I was really curious I was really curious because, I'm I'm expanding more into a female audience now. Mhmm. And and I know that my book is experienced differently by women.
I also know that women love my writing because it's thrilling, and it is a type of erotica at times too. So I'm just curious, like, how how do obviously, I'm writing mostly for 20 year old males. But Right. I am curious how you experience it.
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Yeah. I don't mean to backtrack because we've gotten down some really fun calls here. But, yeah, I mean, initially, I can tell that it's not written for me. I do find the humor, and I can giggle about it. You know? I do get you know, the snark is entertaining. The art's beautiful. Thank you. You do get really deep further in, which is something I noticed. I was like, wow. This is gritty. Heavy philosophical stuff, which is nice. So so most of my questions, you know, do do wanna pin down exactly, you know, without without, you know, the comedy and all that, just, like, really nailing down your your definition. So I've asked some of those Okay.
Already. I think after listening to your interview, I was curious about your upbringing. Okay. I think that really plays into a lot of, you know, how we perceive the world. So you mentioned, you know, that you were you were born Russian and you at what point did you come to America? You mentioned, you know, growing up in a lot of those communities. 4th generation immigrants. So I think my ancestors may or may not have had similar, very different experiences than you. Some of them could find community. Some of them could not. So, you know, how did that shape your views on what's masculine and what's feminine? You know, when you're approaching people who are betas or all of that stuff, you know, this is how how you perceive the world. So and it's like you're saying, you know, talking about talking to people specific to their culture. So I'm curious about yours.
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So Russian women are very strong, at least Soviet women, because there were Soviet snipers, there's female doctors. They really gender integrated women. And my mother's a very strong woman, And, I think a lot of Russians and Eastern Europeans have this from their mother. They they'll tell you that I came to this country, and you better do, you know, really, really well. You better get good grades. I didn't bring you to this country, for you to be a loser. Right? So I was expected to do really well academically and to fight to the top no matter what.
And so, in school, I fought to get good grades, and in my writing, I I fight into a grittiness, and there is a Russian grittiness of a hyper realism where I feel like Americans have a more romantic notion of sex. Whereas if you start watching Russian movies, you're gonna see this hyperrealism. And if you look at my writing, it's it's very direct. And if you guys know any Eastern European languages, you know that Eastern Europeans are are more direct as a culture. So that directness is is shocking to, an American audience.
It's almost like a fight club vernacular. So when people read me, I believe I am grammatically correct, and I don't believe I have an accent. But the way I put together sentences, is hyper hyper direct, and that is because my first language
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It's a German it's a Germanic versus, Latin thing. So the Latin the Latin languages are the romance languages. They're very flowery. They're also very deceptive. The Germanic languages, which Russian, the Russe Vikings are a derivative of the Germanics. They you know, that was the Russe Vikings were the Varangian guards, and then Russia was given to them as payment for their good services, the Varangian guards. And so this is all a Germanic derivative even though the languages don't resemble that much each, you know,
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with their actual words currently. Yes. So the the first rulers of Russia were were Norse. Right? They're but so I I guess to my style, what I wanna talk about is there's this man, Paul Varillo. He's a theorist. He talks about speed. And through speed, speed is traumatic. Right? So if you move too quickly, you can die. Right? You can fall off of a motorcycle. Well, when you're in the dating sphere and you are going on a lot of Tinder dates like I did in my twenties, and you're going to all these houses, there's there's the act of sex itself. I think that's more or less universal, but there's going and seeing the destitution and and figuring out what's this woman's life by what's on her counter.
And getting a a massive experience like that is very gritty. And in the manosphere, I felt like they papered over it, but what I wanted to do was say, well, like, look. Like, this is my twenties. This is what I experienced in Los Angeles. It was gritty, and someone needs to talk about it because it's experience of my generation. Right? And so, in the pursuit of sex sexual maximization, it's inevitable to get a certain level of greediness, and and that's the experience of my friends and that's the experience of my clients. And whether or not it's good or bad, I think it's important to convey that because it's a it's a story that should be told. And I know it's hard for people to look at it, but I there are consequences to having a lot of sex, and there are a lot of consequences to hookup culture, and it is that darkness. And when you look at the astrological attributions of my postmodern, sex chapter, you're gonna see that darkness, and you're gonna start seeing these darker attributions.
And so I don't wanna make a moral call of whether or not someone should or should not do that, but understand that they will take their soul will be impacted from engaging in that. And there there's obviously benefit from overcoming that, but I I think that's something that should be put in print. And I wanna push my book, and I want more people to address that. So when when you look at Russian media, I know a lot of it's propaganda, but there's a lot of grittiness, and I think the American audience can benefit from that grit.
America has a a protestant culture of sweeping things under the rug. I think there's a lot of stuff under the rug in the United States. I think it's gonna start sliming out. So I I think let's look at things as they are even if it's painful, be because I think things are gonna start shifting very quickly the way they did during the pandemic. And the more the more honesty we can have right now, the better things are gonna be. You know, my generation, I believe, is damaged from that hookup culture. A lot of women my age are very bitter. You know, some women could handle it, some women can't handle it, but dating at that speed has a strong psychological effect, which if you're not equipped, if you don't have, I believe, a high verbal IQ to process it well, if you don't have friends and family that are gonna process it well, it will be trauma for you.
And so so I I know I know you read this, and I I know how my grittiness affects women, And I think you're very polite to me. And I think there was a secret unstated question. But what what I wanna say is there's a certain grittiness, and, thank you for bearing with me. But I I think, ultimately, it's it's good. It's it's it's medicine, and and we need to start having these conversations.
[01:46:32] Unknown:
I appreciate that. And I do appreciate getting real and being gritty. That's something that I really like, I've I've been around all kinds of different circles of people. So, I mean, I find that kind of thing actually a little bit attractive because it's at least attempting to be real. You know what I mean? And maybe not everybody in those circles are real, but they're trying. So then, you know, something that I'm curious about is, you know, if you understand how the system is working, and working against people and how the culture is setting people up really to have relationships that don't work, You know, it's like, you know, in the interview we're talking about, you know, and and granted you've talked to a lot of people who who deal with prostitutes and all that stuff, and and you go to the bar and there's all these gold diggers. Right? But, you know, I was talking to Jim earlier and it's like, this is this is what humans do. How do you meet people? You go to a local event. Our current culture has you going to bars, you know. And and I've had artist friends who are like, well, how do I meet women? And it's like, you're gonna have to go to the places you want to be with with that woman.
You know, you go to an art show. Is it awkward as heck to start a conversation with a stranger there? Absolutely. But that's where you go. So so unfortunately, our culture has made it so that if you wanna find anybody, you go to the party scene. And those are not people that are are into anything long lasting. But unfortunately, that's what ends up happening. You know, so you have these girls and they're not trying to gold dig. Sometimes I really hate that term. But it's because it's totally natural for women to look for somebody to be supportive and be in partnership with. So, you know, of course, there are women who who, you know, see that very differently.
But, you know, do you have compassion for that? Because our our systems really put people into a very tight tight place.
[01:48:26] Unknown:
Well, so I think the dollar's declining. Right? And so in order to start a family, which is what I think a lot of women are looking to do or really want to do regardless of whether or not they're ready to admit that, there has to be a certain income. Right? You can't buy a house under a certain income. Right? You can't support a family under a certain income. And if that's a woman's goal, she needs to look for men like that. Right? So are they gold digging like that? Next, on the mail side, there's a lot of financial insecurity, and so that's gonna get projected right back out at whim.
Right? So I guess I guess that, you know, for me, I, you know, yes, I went to law school, but I I grew up in the gym. I grew up as a personal trainer then managing a gym. So I, you know, I've never felt Gold Dog because I don't, you know, I don't I don't dress that way. Right? So so if if, I guess, rural women like me right here here in Mexico, very, very rural women like me, traditional women, women who grew up on a ranch, stuff like that. So so that's not my personal experience. And I think that in order to be some hagglese, if women perceive you in that way, you probably did something to do that perception.
So it's it's a back and forth. And do women are women looking to be bailed out? Yes. I think women were tricked into a lot of bad degrees that aren't paying the way they used to. So, yes, women are looking for bailouts, but so is every corporation. So whatever problems you're gonna see at the dating level, you're gonna see at the other scales as well. Right? So I guess I I don't know what state you're in. And, what is this? The the other thing is, you know, I grew up in Los Angeles, and the dating we did really wasn't the bars or clubs. It was the the hookup app, industrialized dating, of meeting up with people who you're sexually attracted to, but you have zero compatibility with and maybe zero language with. And it was this industrial process of I went on a date with this person from completely different class, and and it was just people being shot at each other by algorithms, you know, and not really understanding who this person is, except for scavenging what's in their bedroom, what's in their bathroom. Right? And so on one hand, that's dark, but on the other hand, it's kind of like a commodity discovery of who did I have sex with.
And and that's partially my experience. That's the experience of my friends. And I really, really wanted to tell that story because I know, that online dating scene is being eroded, and I had the pleasure or maybe the displeasure of being right in the forefront of it. It's not it's not the glory days anymore, and I I just want to put it into writing. So yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you.
[01:51:54] Unknown:
So John Waters that talked about the bookshelf. Your, so some of your, points, you've kinda seemed to be on two sides where, like, you're talking about, and I and I I agree with the part where you're saying that the, hookup culture has had a real bad, mental impacts on folks. But then, also, do you teach hookup culture?
[01:52:27] Unknown:
I mean, for me, like, I'm a mercenary. You know what I mean? So if you come to me and you ask for something, I'm gonna explain how you get it. And at the end of the day, I think it's their moral choice. I don't wanna be you know, I'll say, look. Like, this is this is what you do. This is how this is played. And so there's there's different men at different stages. Right? And if, you know, I went to law school and you defend good people and you defend bad people, and for me, the rush is is the process. I love the process. So I I would say, like, in a sense, I'm an instrument.
I maybe I have moral culpability. But for me, I love binging information. And so it's you know, my I have a a whole section on work. I have some very dark sections. And in order for me to have those dark sections, I have to talk to unsavory people. So unsavory people give me good stories, and I I've dealt with these unsavory people, and now you could read those stories. So to get that information, you you you do have to talk to those people. You know, obviously, I'm online. There's some separation between me and them. But they, you know, they're they're really dark, and they they can have a a very negative psychological impact on you.
But it's like if you're a doctor. Like, if you wanna see the most interesting diseases, you have to be in the middle of it. Right? If you wanna see the most, interesting parts of the culture, the most negative parts, if you wanna be on the front lines, right, you you gotta expose yourself to that. So I'm curiosity driven. I'm information driven. And does that put me in contact with gritty people? Yeah. And and I think that's that's something I've taken upon myself. And maybe that's the correct decision. Maybe it's not. I hope it makes an interesting book. That's yeah.
[01:54:27] Unknown:
The chat What would you say your oh, go ahead. Go ahead. The chat has pointed out
[01:54:32] Unknown:
so at they're asking for a delineation.
[01:54:36] Unknown:
Delineation.
[01:54:37] Unknown:
Your religion because, there's born Jewish, but Jewish is a is a religion. It's not, you know, you could be born of that same region and choose a different religion. So that that's a religious choice. But then also, there's the mitochondrial aspect of it has to follow through your mother's line. So there's asking people are asking for clarification. I believe they wanna know, a, if it comes from your mother's line, so you follow the mitochondrial, path, and then, b, if you religiously are practicing.
[01:55:19] Unknown:
Well, so I got the mitochondria, and, racially, I have a Russian father and a Jewish mother. So, I'm I'm a lot bigger and stronger than my my purebred Jewish cousins, and I think a lot more aggressive, but that's what they tell me. But for me, I like to dig intellectually. And in Judaism, there's a lot to dig through. And sometimes it goes into a dark path, and a lot of times the Jews argue with each other. But there's there's a lot of stuff to dig, and I see a very academic religion, which is intellectually very fulfilling for me. So so that but I don't in terms of practicing, I I avoid pork, and I try not to do anything on the Sabbath.
But I I guess there's a lot of brilliant texts that I really, really like. And and because Jews have been isolated from Christian society, because they grew up in ghettos, and because they were excluded from a lot of work, they had a lot of time to develop these rich texts. Right? So, I know that Christians wrote very negative things about Jews, and I know that the Talmud has a lot of very negative things about Christians. But every culture has written very negative things about everyone else, and that negativity is what holds these cultures together. And I I think I think both religions, are defined by their antipathy towards the other.
But what I will tell you is if you're European, you are partially Jewish a 100%. Some of your ancestors converted. Not. What if not. If if you're if you're it depends on who. You know? If you're Italian, yes. If you're any kind of Spaniard,
[01:57:30] Unknown:
yes. I I don't disagree with that. And you're Northern European? If you're Northern European Absolutely not. If you're If you're you're of Germanic descent, if you're
[01:57:41] Unknown:
not. Okay. It depends on okay. So if you're Scandinavian, then no. Then no. And so it it it I how about this? There's a lot of people who have Jewish ancestry.
[01:57:56] Unknown:
Like, there's a lot of people You even understand you're into these kind of things, the the motherfucker gene. Right?
[01:58:03] Unknown:
That's not that's only expressed in extreme northern European people because we're our own people. You're definitely your own people. I I sorry. I was I was thinking about, you know, like, the areas that I grew up in. But, if if you're from the frozen north, no, listen, no Jew wanted to open a bank there. So I think I think you're I think you're pure. No one wanted to sell you a credit card or jewelry.
[01:58:31] Unknown:
You weren't worth it. Gold makes a curse.
[01:58:34] Unknown:
I get it. And you're really combative. So to get you to sign up for loans, it's just not gonna work. We are. But but I I think if you're I think if you're a Mediterranean, then then you're gonna find that.
[01:58:51] Unknown:
There's a higher chance there. So so yeah. So
[01:58:54] Unknown:
yeah. Sorry. I misspoke and It's French and English too. I mean, you know, anything European, you know, the the Jews married into the royalty to to kinda solidify and expand their position. And so then, you know, that's why you can't separate you can't separate the Jews from the English people, and you certainly can't separate freemasonry from Kabbalism because
[01:59:16] Unknown:
it it demanded overlap at some point. You know? You know, so what I'll tell you is there's different Jews. Right? So there's African Jews. There's, there's Middle Eastern Jews. My my ancestors lived in shacks in the outskirts of Ukraine, for for 100 of years. They were isolated, and then at some point, they they integrated with the the broader Russian community. So there's there's, how do I put this? There's first of all, I'm not here to defend anyone. Every culture is going to you know, there's gonna be Cossacks and Crusaders, and there's gonna be the Jewish counter reaction. So in history, there's there's all sides all sorts of everything.
And what I would say is unless you're like our our purebred northern friend, you don't know who your ancestors were or what they did, and and their truth is usually a lot more complicated than you think. So you might have negative views, and I understand that, and I'm not discounting that. But just understand that there's especially in Central Europe, there's a lot of mixing. So and the other thing within Kabbalism, you're gonna see a lot of, Greek ideas, and there's the the the line between Jew and non Jew, especially in Europe, isn't that clear a lot of the time. That's but what I'll say is it is a delicate conversation, and,
[02:00:55] Unknown:
I It's an interesting one. Yeah. And once again, it requires the the the delineation. So when you look at it in its origins, it's an Abrahamic religion, which is a religion of the Hebrew people. And then specifically, when you look at it, then at one point in time, to at least be one of the God's chosen people, you needed to specifically be of Hebrew lineage. Then at some point in time, it got transferred over into where it just became, while Judaism is the religion of the Hebrews, at some point in time, other cultures started coming into it. There are a lot of, theories out there that, would say in order to be sacrificial lambs, because then they're not true Jews and you have the wheat before the chaff.
And, that way, though, you can be sacrificed and you get to keep the chosen ones as the good ones. And so then there was a a religious release where you could join the religion without the Hebrew blood. And somehow that happened. Now I understand where that happened in Christianity because Jesus supposedly said the Gentiles were now of the same of the same covenant as everybody else. Whereas in Jews, that person has never come that made that covenant, and Jesus is somebody, which I'm not a Christian, so don't take any of this as Okay. Something I'm taking a piece of, bro. I'm an odinist. So, the, the Christians then had that story, but the Jews never had that covenant where the Gentiles were allowed to actually become one of them. So this becomes very confusing.
And then further, when Israel in, the forties, when Israel became a nation, now the nation becomes Jew in and of itself. And so if you say anything about that, your act about the actions of Israel in and of itself, you're attacking Judaism. So it becomes an extraordinarily, confusing subject, especially when, some folks and I and I do understand what you were saying that there are divisions inside that religion. I get it. And that the but that there are the folks that own the media, They help propagate that confusion.
[02:03:22] Unknown:
I guess what I'll tell you is it's gonna feel like I'm pivoting, but I'm not pivoting. It's that at least the European Jews, the Ashkenazi Jews, the religion is very literary, and there's a lot of reading, and we're known for our high verbal IQ. Right? So if verbal IQ is your strength, you're gonna play to it. And I've trusted to play to it by writing you a book that I hope you guys enjoy. But I know members of my race are gonna be playing word games with you guys. Sometimes, maybe it's their own benefit, maybe to to their own detriment. Right? So if the cards you have is verbal intelligence, you're going to be predisposed to manipulation because that is your strength.
Right? So so when members of my culture or members of my race do that, understand that if, let's say, if you're an African American and you have a very long femur, you're gonna be good at basketball. Right? Hopefully, that's okay for you too. Or maybe if you're Asian I'm just I'm trying to be careful. If you're Asian right. If you're Asian and your ancestors had to figure out irrigation, you're gonna be good at math because you were genetically selected. Right? My ancestors genetically selected on who could understand scripture the best regardless of if you guys agree with it. So the cards that my race has is high verbal.
So when they play games with you and accuse you of stuff and do all of that stuff, that's the main card that they have as a culture. And whether they're right or maybe they're wrong, you know, I
[02:05:15] Unknown:
it happens both ways. For a deception. We get it. We have magic.
[02:05:20] Unknown:
I understand. Magic. I I really so but that is the strength, and that is the advantage, and you gotta play whatever cards you have. And and that's what they're gonna be doing. So,
[02:05:34] Unknown:
Well, like you said, your, half blood, half relatives are not exactly the most beastly. They're probably not gonna be doing no direct charge on the shield walls today.
[02:05:48] Unknown:
Yeah. So so, you know, I have ancestors on both sides of of the racial conflict, of the race war, the the culture war. So, you know, I'm you know, my parents chose to put me in this position, through their union. And and so I I do my best to try and navigate it because if I pivot too hard in one direction or the other, then I'm I'm shitting on one half of my bloodline or the other half of my bloodline. Right? So that's
[02:06:20] Unknown:
that's that's where I'm at. And Kind of an internal battle going on in you.
[02:06:25] Unknown:
Look. You know, my parents chose to have me. Here I am, and I I have to play these cards. So I I understand your sentiment, and I know there's a lot of friction on both sides. But Actually, didn't mean to grill you on this at all. Yeah. Yeah. I I just I don't even know where the fuck this came out of. Yeah. I just I just try and answer every question openly and honestly to to foment an interesting conversation. But Yeah. I We appreciate it. And and, I'm also trying to answer, you know, the the big j question in a way where you guys are monetized and but but just,
[02:07:02] Unknown:
we're not monetized. We'll never be. Okay.
[02:07:06] Unknown:
But but very well.
[02:07:08] Unknown:
Back up everything on Rockfin because we're we, we're not particularly politically correct. I'm not. If you haven't noticed, I'm Yeah. I might I you know, while I don't hold some of your positions, and I and I haven't we haven't fleshed some of them out completely. I don't know how much time you're willing to dedicate to this tonight. We we ask Marcus and I have another show that we'd like to invite you on that is more of a debate, more of a debate style show. And that you can stay as long as you want today, though. Like, that we're not kicking you out. I'm just trying to say you've been here 2 hours. Most of the time, most guests at at around 2 hours start petering out. And, but,
[02:07:49] Unknown:
It's from bodybuilding. You know? Like, I just Endurance. I I have tremendous endurance, and I used to train 6 clients one after the other and just keep loading them up with barbells. And There you go. And and one of the things I believe is that in order to, you know, you guys were playing Ramstein before. Right? So till Linderman is in amazing shape even at his age. Yeah. And the reason why his his art is at a such a high intensity is because his body is at such a high level. So I think you guys you guys read my book. You know that it's at a high intensity, and I was only able to achieve that, by being in very good shape. And that's that's why I can give you guys, my time like this without without melting.
[02:08:35] Unknown:
Unfortunately, Rachel and Jim have had access to it. Marcus and I and Sean have not yet. But, before we, get obviously get you on the next show, they're gonna pass it along so that way we can Amazing. Look at it and also, be more informed on what you're thinking and how you're viewing the world. I would like you to expand more. You've spoken financially. Obviously, given look given that your attitude and and the way you carry yourself, financial cannot be your only, qualifier for alpha male because, obviously, some, some cuck with working on a computer is making vastly more money than, like you said earlier, you're right you're writing for the construction worker and things like that.
So what would your other qualifiers then be?
[02:09:34] Unknown:
Well, so the thing is
[02:09:38] Unknown:
when you talk about money, right, there's exchange value of what you can sell something for, and there's use value of how much value this object creates. Right? So our economy doesn't this is a Marxist point. It doesn't reward use value the way it used to. I think industrial capitalism really did. So there's a lot of men who, regardless of how much money they're they're moving in, right, they do create a lot of use value. If you're a housewife and you make big dinners for your family, you're creating a lot of use value even though that's not reflected in the GDP. Right? So I think human beings can can sense value and value is different culturally, if that makes sense.
And so I think if you're producing a lot of value in whatever historical or cultural context you're in as a man, I think that's good even if the current dollar economy doesn't reflect that. Right? So if you're back in your homesteading, maybe you're not making any money, but you could be making a lot of use value. If
[02:10:54] Unknown:
does that Just to clarify that. Yeah. That was that was something I was trying to get out earlier. So perfect.
[02:11:02] Unknown:
Cool. They're asking about your age. I wanna say born in 1988, 89.
[02:11:08] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. You got it. Yeah. Yeah. I was born 90. But, yeah, you got me. Right on. Yeah. So, cool. What what other what's I can't I can't see what Chad's asking. So whatever they're asking, I'd be so curious
[02:11:22] Unknown:
to answer that. That's why I've been trying to trying I'm trying not to disrupt you, but also trying to occasionally flash him up on the screen so you can see them without being too disruptive. I I can't see the screen at all. You're you're speaking. Oh, wow. My my my eyes are for reading books. They're not for, like, haunting it.
[02:11:42] Unknown:
They're book eyes. Mhmm. So so but what whatever let me answer a couple more questions and then Yeah. If Chad has more questions and they wanna put in more questions now. Okay. Perfect. Can you just read them to me?
[02:11:57] Unknown:
You were talking about cards earlier. Did you have specific tarot decks that you work with or have learned? Okay. There's the Aleister Crowley deck. It's awesome.
[02:12:06] Unknown:
And then there is Liberty Tarot of the Stars Eternal. And it's the symbols are a lot easier to see because the the woman who Aleister Crowley, I think, drove to suicide, she does she does it in this very stylistic way. But in liberty tarot deck, it's a lot clearer. And and the the tarot deck in Aleister Crowley, I think, is the Sabatean demonic one. So when when you read Aleister Crowley or if you read it, be careful because he could be tricking you into all sorts of incantations.
[02:12:57] Unknown:
I I think Conan Don does that same thing. Yeah. Crowley definitely switched,
[02:13:02] Unknown:
designations on some of the cards and inverted some of the meanings. Didn't switch them.
[02:13:07] Unknown:
Ryder and Waite switched them and fucking Elias Levi. You can't mix that up. Crowley actually put the order back into place. That is Crowley's order is the original order when Ryder and William Right. Right. I forgot about that. Thank you. And then Elias Levi also is the one who first tied the kabbalistic tree to the tarot and put the steps of the kabbalistic tree to the tarot. That included an inversion between the number 8 and the 11. And, really, it made it from a 3 part process to a 2 part process that's more polar more of a polarity rather than a a trinity.
[02:13:46] Unknown:
Did you guys have you guys seen, there's Gershom Shalom, Sefer Yatira, and Bahir? Yeah. Yeah. I've got it over here. I need some Okay. Perfect. Yeah. Because for me, like, that was the clearest. I know there's different interpretations and stuff, but, there was what I like in the Sephora Yutira is you understood every, Sephiroth from the verses in the bible. And, like, there's there's a vav, which is, like, he divided between light and darkness, and that's Hierophant because the Hierophant divides between light and darkness. So in my, digging through tarot, snipping tarot was really good because it tied it back into the bible.
And so I view that as as a definitive source. I don't know how you guys do it, and I don't consider myself an expert, but I think that really helped me trying to figure out what was going on.
[02:14:49] Unknown:
You can take Eris night, travelistic symbolism.
[02:14:52] Unknown:
Okay. I have, yeah, do you guys have meditation? Did you know about this book right here, Meditation in the kabbalah? This one? Ari Kaplan? Yeah. Ari Kaplan is really good, and and there's number squares, and there's very powerful meditative techniques, which, are dangerous because they could really bring you up very quickly, and you can get kind of like a roller coaster feeling. So so if I think the procedure once again, I'm not an expert. I could be getting a lot of things wrong. I'm just starting to dig. Is you're supposed to rotate shapes and construct the you know, this chariot while you're reading your Jewish prayers.
And and there's also number squares, number combinations that you're supposed to be doing. So if you can read your prayers while doing the number squares concurrently, I think there's some kind of resonance from what I understand that puts people into a deep meditative trance. And and I think I think that's a very big secret. There's this Esoterica Kai. There's this he's like, he's he's Jewish, but he really digs. There's a a channel. It's called Esoterica. And, Justin Sledge's channel? Yeah. I really like him. Mhmm. And and I and what I like about him is I know this topic is very delicate, and he's able to provide a lot of information while being delicate and while being respectful, because there's a lot of landmines in the space.
[02:16:38] Unknown:
So have you looked into the dot side of things then yet where you're integrating the dot 3 into the standard Sephirot setup?
[02:16:51] Unknown:
I don't I'm not, like, that good. You know? Like, I I I'm trying to figure out the foundations. You know? And so the other thing is in in Christianity, there's usually, like, a path that's a lot clearer, but Jews love to argue. So it's just a perfect so it's just a constant fight of Jews fighting other Jews in Aramaic, and so there's just a lot to sort. And then when I go to look for external resources, there's just another layer of confusion. Right? So
[02:17:31] Unknown:
No. I posted that definition in the chat when you're talking about it. Yeah. Pill poll. You know? The word pill poll is a word that describes, Jews arguing back and forth in the Talmud, and, it's of course, it's not always straightforward. You know? Everyone's prone to sophistry and trying to get their position across whether it's completely straight ahead or not, and, the Jews are the best at it, period. You know? Like What I would say
[02:17:55] Unknown:
is when you're excluded from most of society the way Jews were, that's a sport. Jewish arguing is a sport,
[02:18:05] Unknown:
and so and so The Irish also, they just like to get drunk before they do it. So
[02:18:11] Unknown:
they they they just it's, you know, if you have a high verbal IQ, it's just something you're gonna enjoy. Right? So but it's for me, I I got the basics. I I figured out the tarot. I figured out astrology. I figured out alchemy. I start, I think there's Julius Zavola. I've been reading his alchemy. He's definitely very anti Jewish, so I if you look at the text behind me Hey. Hold hold on. Who?
[02:18:40] Unknown:
We I got Evola?
[02:18:42] Unknown:
Evola. Yeah.
[02:18:43] Unknown:
Yeah. I got him over here on my bookshelf. Well, anti Jewish is in far as Christian. Okay. Alright. Never mind.
[02:18:51] Unknown:
Well, I mean
[02:18:54] Unknown:
Okay. I get it. I get it. I get it. I I wasn't inside your duality. I get it. It's alright. I'm sorry, sir. I wasn't really trying to construct a duality. My may maybe Oh, no. No. I I that's my fault. It it I get it. Where you're coming from, that is where most of the western world is. So I'm I'm just not there, so that's my fault. Okay.
[02:19:15] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
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You're good. We're at we're at a three level. Yeah. That's why I'm at a three Okay. Oh, sorry. I'm sorry. So so we have we have some viewers who are probably just joining us now, and some of them are, like, 101 basic getting into it. Some are into, you know, 202. Now we're having a 303 and a 404 level conversation. Okay. So we're so we're navigating all of these types of, viewers, and maybe we'll let's circle back and say this is Glow, gl0, and he's written the book, the pillars of wisdom. Jim and Rachel have a copy there. Hold it up there for you. And if you lift it up and you set it down and you lift it up and you set it down and you do that a couple times, you get stronger. So that's your first bodybuilding lesson. Perfect.
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It's a rip for another day. To let you know, our other show is not a cult based, so it would be more of the other subjects. So I we didn't I actually didn't even know you were into the gonna speak a call, and you honestly waded into the deep end of the pool for the occult. Like, this is, like, our legitimately our specialty. We study this all the time, most of us for 20, you know, plus years.
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So I apologize. We didn't even know that this was gonna happen. Well, so so, you know, I've been calling the people who bought my book. And so if you buy my book, I'm gonna call you, and we're gonna talk. I'm gonna see if you like it. And most of my red pill readers, you know, all of my stuff has astrological attributions, at the top. And, you know, a lot of my guys are programmers, and they just didn't see it. And I'm like, it's every image. It's every image. It is. I have, like, Cali from the Cali Yuga. Like, I got the wheel of fortune.
Like, you know, I have the empress. Like, I have a full tarot card deck that's in your house. And they're like, yeah. I just didn't see the astrology. And I'm like, I have astrological distributions in the back. Like, nope. I just didn't see it. I'm like, but how?
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You know? It's like I noticed it right away.
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I mean, it's it's like a big book. Rising
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symbolic literacy and then corresponding one system to another is so important because there's a whole like, the richer, greater realm that we exist in and not the invisible one, like the one you're actually in. This shit's in front of you all the time. You know? The the great big umbrella on the side of the bank fucking means something, folks. You know, it's not just an umbrella they chose, like, hey. Let's use some clip art. We'll flap a flap a umbrella on the side of the skyscraper that's coincidentally 33 stories or whatever. You know? It's around you all the time. We're waiting in it all the time. So So so,
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you know, I've been calling people because I'm like, okay. Well, this is I felt like I've written something different, something very interesting. I wanna see how do they experience it? How do women experience it? How do different cultures experience it? But they they the symbols, they can't see them. And They just start to find more points about it. You you could you could, you know, you could do a whole 400 pager of just symbols, and they're gonna be like, yeah. Just I don't know. I'm like Yeah. How? But but so there's if they're not meant to see it, they're not gonna see it. Language is simple. When a man understands the language of symbolism, the world will open up to them, manly be all. Well, I'm trying to give them the language of symbolism, and they can't see it. So No.
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No. That's why you have this is why you have when I was talking to you at the beginning where I was talking about the difference between exoteric and esoteric, and then I further explained that the the exoteric is needed because the mundane, no matter how much we wanna make everybody into this Atlantean society where everybody's enlightened and they all have interest in becoming, greater people and absorbing knowledge. The fact is is most people just don't. They don't. They wanna get their pecker touched. They wanna punch out a couple kids like them, eat some hot supper, and go to bed in a warm place. That is the end of their wants, and we can't make them want more. So they you have to keep an esoteric level or an exoteric level, which is entertaining.
And so that way, the the vulgar masses will carry that message on, and then the person with the x, x or esoteric mind will then be able to derive them nuggets of gold out of this story that's only being used as entertainment
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amongst others. Yeah. That's Yep. I knew this, and thank you so much. That's an amazing point. And I I knew this when I was told this. I just didn't understand that you could hand someone, like, a book of symbols, and they just like, yeah. I didn't really look at the images. I'm like, it's every other page. So
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You I wish you knew. You probably have better luck with women discussing symbols. That's your high priestess card. Because girls women overthink everything. We look for deeper meaning. It's part of how we're genetically wired. So, I mean, that's why all these movements of, like, baby witches and, like, all this stuff, it's so trending because it comes naturally. It's so easy to market to. It's so easy to harness. It's so easy to control because it comes naturally. And there's been long periods of time where it hasn't been expressed or repressed or I mean, I can't tell you how many women are like, daughter, the witch you forgot to burn or whatever. Like but, I mean, I think that's if you're gonna really market to women, using that symbolic language is smart. Because that's something that I noticed in the art almost right away. It was like, okay. I can look at this through a different lens now, and and I can see it now. You know? Like, I think, I think 175 was a page that I turned to, which was really fascinating to me, the eat or be eaten, because it ties into other stuff I wanted to talk to you and Ben with.
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I like I like 175 because I was interested in, you know, Leviathan and and Behemoth and really the the primordial primordial entities immediately. I was also again, Rachel? Image.
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Yeah. I put a a a picture of it in our chat. So if we could screen share it, that'd be easier. Yeah. We'll get to that. But it does have the symbol for Mars and Gemini, which I think is fascinating, because I really like I like those that combination. I think some people would not. But, so here's the thing with that chapter. It's I found it a little bit polarizing in terms of slave and master philosophy.
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From Hegel.
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Yeah. Which is which is smart. There's a lot of truth and merit to it, but I don't know that it necessarily takes into account something that Ben brought up. You know, there are we call these people NPCs, but in, you know, like, heathen traditions, those people are thralls. That's that is a a vital aspect of human nature. It's of of an important part of human society to have these people that only do what they do, and that's just what they do. And you do you get to pass the this kind of knowledge on through symbols, through art. You know, that's why you have these masses of people who are, like, worshiping Marvel and they think that that's really Thor, you know, because that's that's how you're gonna pass it along to those people.
But, you know, it's I don't know that, you know, some of these you know, the thing with Gemini is it's a very close relationship. It's familial. You know, these 2 beasts, they're 1 and the same, really, even if they're fighting. It's like 2 brothers. It's a brother war, really. Slave and master, and and we've made these things divisive. Our culture has made this divisive when in reality, there are people who have serving hearts. And there are I mean, movies and all kinds of culture has made it this bad thing. You don't wanna be a slave. You don't wanna be, you know, blah blah blah even though they're doing it to us all the time. It's actually a relationship that's vital for healthy communities. You're gonna have people who are like, I don't fight wars.
That's not my thing. And so then you have people who are like, I will fight the war if you don't mind doing the laundry, you know, because I'm gonna be busy training. You know, there's this tribal connection and trade off that no longer exists in our community. And it's difficult to get back to that kind of thinking because our culture really dumps on it. Unless you're watching Downton Abbey, then you're all about it. But, you know, you don't you don't see these things as relationships. You see this as master and slave, and it's evil. And it's like, no. Well, I mean, it it it is it is a relationship. And and when you read have you read, Coach Eve?
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Mm-mm.
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Let's see what my man says. There's okay. So there's this guy, Kojeev. He has one of the easiest explanations of Hegel, and it's it's a dialectic. And so if in these relationships of dominion, the master can become the slave and vice versa, and there's there's a movement that has to happen. Right? And so through revolution, that movement happens, and that's how we're gonna move forward economically and culturally and also, you know, religiously. So, you know, we could talk about Judaism. We could talk about Christianity, and there's these great slave master reversals, right, that I think are key pivotal moments in in history.
I guess I guess the downside of being a master is if you're a master and you speak in master discourse and there's a lot of men who they're meant to be slaves and they start speaking in master discourse, that's gonna lead to conflict for them. Mhmm. And if they're not able to handle it, they're gonna be wiped out because that is the price you pay for uttering certain words. Right? So, I have an extensive amount of Indian clients, and and I, discussed the Indian caste system. And they, you know, they have your view, you know, I of the importance of that caste system. And I think I believe
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so. They're having trouble touching the bobs and vegines?
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There's a little bit of difference there, but, you know, I have a problem.
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Out of those things. Absolutely. Somebody who's a fraud can become somebody higher, but it ties into this esoteric, exoteric. You know, you're gonna have people that's that's that revolution that you're talking about, and that's why some people get it and some people won't. Some people will naturally be inclined to move forward into that next level of being. And some people, it's just gonna take them longer. I mean, think about it like a a spiral staircase. You're gonna have people racing up those steps, and then you're gonna have people who just they're gonna take their sweet time. You know, so it it's just dependent on people's speed, not necessarily whether they will or won't and that they're stuck. Nobody's really stuck. Things are on a spiral. They're always moving.
But but, you know, I think it does have to do with the esoteric and esoteric. When we talk about, knowledge being hidden, that's why. Just like you were saying, you're gonna have somebody in leadership who's got a hold of some truth, and he's wielding his magic, like, recklessly because he doesn't have any sort of background or foundation, and he's doomed to fail. And that's part of this influx of information that's happening right now. They're just saturating the market. Everything's available. You know, you can find all these books on all this stuff. You can it's just insane. There's no I'm not saying we should gatekeep, but I'm not not saying we shouldn't gatekeep. Right.
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I I
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think not saying.
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There's this man, Paul Virillo, and he says the invention of the car is the invention of the car accident. Right? So if there's a freeway, people are gonna die on that freeway. And if you start opening up, esoteric knowledge, people are gonna spiritually cripple themselves or make pacts that they shouldn't make.
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And now you can sell life insurance, automobile insurance,
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and now wizard insurance.
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Yeah. Wizard insurance.
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Yeah. See. The biggest problem is is with these books that are opening these things up, what it's what these books are trying to do is dummy down and make a, a cult for idiots type thing. And the problem is is when that happens, the mundane mind is not able to conceptualize things properly. So you end up with, like, in today's society where this is something you've been probably given quite a bit of pushback on where you have this, hermaphroditic push to society. Well, that's derived from, absolute, misunderstanding from too many mundane people, looking at a cult and not understanding the way things actually function and viewing it with a very ignorant mind. And so there there's something to be said about, not giving that to to the vulgar masses who are gonna misunderstand and misuse what they've been told.
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I think the goal is transhumanism and a path to that. I'm gonna be careful with my phrasing. Is this whole gender situation that is being put forward. So I think there's people who do a lot of bodily modifications, and I actually I have a chapter on transgenderism in the book, which was probably wiped off the Internet. And, I hope you guys enjoyed it, because it's probably some of the most controversial writing ever. But before they can go into full transhumanism, they have to advocate, heavily, body modifications. And if they can get you to buy into the system, I think this is Alex Jones' view, then they could control your body and your mind, and then you'll be a more perfect thrall.
So there's there's games being played on the other side, and I think it's important that we we develop a literacy for those games, I guess.
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I agree.
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I agree.
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Cool. Cool. Let me can I answer a couple more questions, and then I'll I'll run off? Not a problem, brother. We appreciate it. You guys have amazing endurance. So I guess everyone hears a bodybuilder. It takes about 2 and a half hours to get into the That's what I learned. Everyone's a bodybuilder.
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About,
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we don't anymore. We only stay about 3, 3 and a half hours. Rachel's pregnant. Oh, wow. We got a bunch of stuff going on. Same. We used to roll we used to roll about 6 hours every Saturday. Okay. Rachel is 2 bodybuilders because everyone knows.
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Yeah. My secret. Tremendous endurance.
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Ricola.
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Yeah.
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So let's see. Yeah. Alright. I got one more question there. I'm going back up in the chat here. I thought there was one more.
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Yeah. Most of the the the the, religious things were being answered. From the. That was me trying to start Okay. I was like I was like That was actually questions from the channel. I was like I was like, here comes the Viking questions. Here we go. No.
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No. Who's the solar guy? Darius,
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I'm not trying to be contentious at all. These were things from the chat. When I Yeah. The things that I would be We're taking my confidence. About would be on I like I said, we want to invite you on this other show. Okay. And I'm not it's not to lambast you either because I agree with a lot of your, positions. And I agree with some of the things that you're putting your energy into. I don't agree with some of the things that you're saying, but, again, we have a whole another show for disagreeing with people. Okay. Perfect. Thank you. I didn't know, like, a whole another thing. I'm sorry. Go regarding dog cases. Out of the chat, brother. I don't think
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I I don't think, you know, we can talk for 2 and a half hours and fully agree on you know? So I I appreciate you know. And and the other thing is, you know, my my, Maniscope career, I I went after a lot of people. So whenever people wanna debate or whenever there's hard questions, hope you guys saw that. The questions were about,
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like, India, and I guess I'll connect this back to Reddit. So now in current year 2024, there's, there's not quite the women's sphere, but there's a popular podcast called Red Scare, which kinda connects to that Red Scare idea out of Soviet Russia. So it's 2 women in New York, and they have, you know, fans and haters and whatever. So the people that are kinda congregating around that community and many of them don't even listen to the podcast or pay attention to the people that started it. But they started splintering off and having different subreddits on Reddit.
And the reason they were doing that is because they had the disagreements, but also because Reddit moderators had different preferences. And Reddit admins, the owners of the site, want to be more brand friendly. And we have the election coming up in the USA this year. So can Conde Nast, the magazine company, now owns Reddit. So this is a long winded way of saying that some of the red scare subreddits, which are mostly women who are posting women issues types of things Okay. They were inundated by a lot of poo and loo sort of come and go, thank thank you, sir, come again, sort of racism towards Indian men because there's a lot of Indian men and Indian women who are posting in English taking over Reddit and specifically the subreddit. So because they were kinda taking it over, maybe it was just a troll army pretending to be Indian, but it became a race issue, which then took down these subreddits. So many of those subreddits went private. So maybe if we're talking pendulum swinging where, you know, 2016, it was Manosphere red pill men men's rights issues, Reddit's being taken down uncensored. Now it's kind of this other sort of place. So it gets to be weird Okay. Let me window shift over to window.
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Was can you I don't wanna interrupt, but can you ask me a question? Because I'm I'm an expert on India. I am a from speaking to them for thousands of hours.
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And so I guess the the stereotype of Indians working at Microsoft doing tech support, now they're on computers, and now they're interacting with traditionally English speaking social sites. Right. So, like, right so now they're all over on Reddit and maybe a little bit on Twitter. Okay. So okay. Do you have a specific question or I can just give you my experience? Yeah. I guess the question is CAST system, India, Internet, globalism. They're talking now it's traditionally an Anglo American English speaking space, and they're speaking very good English. Right. But people are like, as soon as they find out they're Indian, it's like, poo and Lou, get out of here. We don't wanna talk to you. So
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there's 3 times more Indians than Americans. So there's a lot of them. Right? And the technology has been moving very quickly, and they, before, were economically not able to get on to the Internet, and now they can. Right. So it's just Bollywood's taken over and and sold them? So so I think their telecom companies have done a very good job of giving them Internet connectivity. That's step 1. Step 2 is I've dealt with them extensively and so have the people on my team, and they are colonized and they I'm just going to say they have an internalized racism where they look up to whites and they want to copy whites or their high caste Indians.
And so they have this mythologized understanding of whatever is happening in the United States, and they think it's better. And Bollywood is largely responsible with that. 1 is this, the way the English colonized them, from my understanding, is they had their colonial system, and they're they're used to serving and being very differential. So that happens. And then the women have unrealistic expectations from all of the media that they're watching. And so that creates this cultural mix. The next thing is it's very hard for them to admit fault, and they will double down 2, 3, 4 times before having a complete meltdown. I have 2 articles on Indian men with pretty spicy imagery. I think you guys saw that, because I've dealt with them extensively.
And so this is globalization, and they have a different culture, and they were fed these values. And in my experience, maybe I didn't do it properly. But no matter how much I would discuss, like, listen. Like, you need to get out of your colonial mindset. Like, your Indian goal of your Indian life. Like, it's not gonna be what you think here, and I know immigrants who who moved or, like, Canada is basically Indian now. So they're trying to figure out how to integrate into the Anglo American culture, and they're looking for clues. And they don't understand that they can't integrate as a European American. They need to integrate as a Indian American. But the other thing is there's such a flood of them that they're not integrating well, and some people would argue that they're not integratable.
So
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capitalism has a demand mass. I don't think any people in mass are integratable into any other system unless the 2 are extraordinarily comparative.
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Right. So so the capital Because they're not gonna they're not gonna be surrounded by enough of whatever they're integrating into because they're gonna clump up and stay with each other. Yeah. And then that prevents the process of integration.
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Right. So so a Polish person might integrate within, let's say, a generation or 2, a Polish family. Right? But if if you're not European, it it's gonna I think Asian Americans integrated. I don't know how many generations it took them. Right? But, realistically, you have to understand that the capitalist class needs cheap labor. And so regardless of they're integratable, they're not integratable, economically, they are going to flood the market with them because that's how they're gonna cut costs, and that's how they're going to cut your wages.
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So the way that they're maintaining the system because all the every Anglo country, every white country is literally at a net negative for their replacement rate. Straight up. Without
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straight up. Right. And so you, the white middle class, are very expensive, and they need to replace you with Indians because it's just a better bang for buck. Right? So you could like maybe you like Indians, maybe you don't like Indians. They're not the ones causing it. They're just a pawn that's being shoved. We could argue for demographic replacement reasons or economic reasons, but at the end of the day, that's how they're being used. And so a lot of these spaces are gonna get completely inundated. And then the other thing is when you deal with some of these traditional cultures, which are patriarchal, when that patriarch is removed, when their, traditional marriage is removed, they don't have a structure to replace it.
And they're kind of looking for you to foist a structure onto them, but how comfortable do you feel as a European foisting anything onto? So it's this world of misunderstanding, and I've spent a lot of time talking to them. And they're they have a tendency of being differential for a long time and then flipping out into a big outburst and then running away because they're they're very conflict averse. So if, if you look at, like, beta male berserk mode, that's something that they're gonna do. So I guess if you're dealing with them as an employee, which a lot of people are going to, I would say, get my book because I have the courage to discuss Indians.
Maybe more articles and and how to deal with them, and my company deals with them extensively. And we have Indians who deal with Indians. So online, it's an extensive thing. It's not a one off guy like before. It's it's a whole population that requires specific resources that I really, really tried to build to the best of my ability. I don't know else who who did, but it's it's there's tremendous friction. And yeah. So in conclusion, move to Mexico because they're not here.
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Here.
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So
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the Mexicans aren't going to, you know, they they their police system
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is more traditional, I would argue, in their enforcement. The integration process is gonna go considerably on a different route in Mexico. They
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they're strong people, and they their policing is traditional.
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Yeah. They they integrate it organically as opposed
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to psychology psychologically or something. Psychologically. Yeah. So but but that's gonna be a thing that's happening. And so,
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yeah. I I That's just part of the 5th industrial revolution. That's the 4th industrial revolution. Exactly. And that's kind of the world we're living in now. So we've been talking about high value men. And regardless of Indian feather or dot or Buddhist or Muslim or Jewish or Christian or whatever you are, as a man, there's an idea of what a high value man is, and this is what we're talking about. How do you determine who is a high value man and what is the value the man brings?
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But thank you so much for this conversation. I know we touched a lot of controversial topics and very delicate topics, but I'm really glad to have a group of people who are intelligent and dug through my book really, really well so we could have these amazing conversations. And I'm looking forward to being on in the future. Thank you so much. Thank you. Go on. The website is the pillars of wisdom.
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Buy your copy before they figure out how to censor me. Yeah. This is a first edition copy of a book where book collectors are gonna be wanting this. So buy as many copies as you can, hoard them, put them in safe spaces, put them in canopic jars, and hide them in hills and caves and everywhere. It's a beautiful book.
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Beautiful much.
[02:47:42] Unknown:
I'm wondering if my if my credit card information wouldn't be exposed that stream that I'm actually pushing the button right now to order 1. I would I would screen share, but I don't want everyone to see my, my debit card numbers. So
[02:47:55] Unknown:
It's alright. It's absolutely a gorgeous book, brother. We appreciate you giving us, damn near 3 hours of your time. Like I said, John Roland there in the chat. We would love to him, Marcus, and myself have a show called the liberating dog faced dudes. Okay. We would love to have you on where this it's more of a debate format. Although it's not like, blood you know, it wouldn't be a tangent or actually and we're not even on the same page. Marcus is, nobody fucking knows what Marcus is. And John Roland is some form of Asian girl. I don't know. And I'm obviously an overly aggressive heat heathen. So, you know, you you got a nice mix, and we'll probably get somebody else on. But,
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one of our fun shows again. One of our fun shows is titled should women, vote and should they run for office? Should I vote? I'm gonna just argue against voting. I'm just gonna argue against Bushmont Democracies. And that was kind of the argument we said. You know, women shouldn't need to be in politics and office and, you know, it's that's something that men could do and take care of that, and then we'd have fewer problems. But there's plenty of people who wanna argue against it, so we're always looking for hot, controversial topics for Tuesday nights Perfect. On deliberating dog faced dudes. This is Alright. Well weaving spiders on Saturday night, and we're coming to a conclusion. I don't think a gem got to say the name of the show. This is episode 268.
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Lucretius glow up. Spider pillars of wisdom.
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Thank you so much, guys. Really, really appreciate everything. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Have a good day.
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Incredible. Yeah. That was good. That was great. Do people understand the intro music better now?
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I understood because I wanted to do didn't.
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Even knowing that even knowing what our show is gonna be, that intro was wild, Marcus. That's pretty spicy. Yeah. I'm I'm all set to
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rub it out. Ears. Close.
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The, exoteric meaning of penis into vagina is how babies are made.
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And then having, the the one of the theme songs, the Vaniaja.
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That was our good friend,
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John Rowland. So that was his his actual, personal made original works. Thank you for the great weave on that on, brother. But, yeah, I woulda liked to have gotten more into, obviously, you know, on the dog face, I have contentions about what a what a, alpha male is. You know? Obviously, like, when I look at my herd of animals, the one giving out the best hair and the biggest luxurious hair, he's not the he's not necessarily the alpha male. The alpha male, he runs out when there's danger. I have one alpaca that runs out in front of the rest. The rest all heard up and stick stick behind. He's 20 feet in front, 50 feet in front, whatever.
And he's looking at whatever danger is like a mad beast and screaming at it. And the the further, obviously, for myself, I believe the epitome of of masculine is husbandry, whether it be with animals, whether it be with the land, or with your wife being the the provider and protector and all the things that come with that particular role, that is the alpha male. And if you ask me, no matter how much money you have, if you are that, like, poor people outbreed rich people by far. So you have that going on. You're gonna get somebody that wants really wants you to take care of them. They're like, damn. Let me let me go ahead and get some shelter under that.
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Rico has been taking care of me all night long. Keeping the place real strong. Thank you to our sponsor, Rico La.
[02:52:11] Unknown:
Yeah. I would I'm gonna have to also bounce, but, I did wanna hear a little bit more about that because I as far as his responses this evening, I do appreciate his stance and his view with that. What we see alpha as is going to shift in different cultures. I appreciate that viewpoint because that is absolutely true. Nailing down his specific view is a little bit tougher. But I do appreciate, you know, that angle of things because I think that's smart to recognize for sure.
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100%. Like, somebody like me is probably in the Indian society who was describing extraordinarily off putting. Well, it'd be like freaking letting a pit bull in through a bunch of chihuahuas. Everybody just bellying up and pissing on themselves. Nobody's happy about it.
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Not a fan of inconvenience. Long run, if you don't decide to back off or they don't decide to man up, then the whole thing falls apart. You have to go live all by yourself and work through a proxy. If you know? Because it doesn't work otherwise.
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You know? Exactly.
[02:53:19] Unknown:
To me, I think it's unfortunate that, somebody is doofy and stupid as Vox Day was able to help popularize this whole alpha, beta, sigma, gamma bullshit so that it's the main, you know, t it's not a good language. It's not well, yeah. Teddy spaghetti is the the whole reason that we're all saying alpha all the time and and he's a dip shit. You know, his dad's been pre went to went to prison for being a crook and, you know, and and Vox honestly, if you did get to it, it just kinda followed suit. He was a little smarter about it and, but that's the main reason why. For real? Skibby Can we flush it down the Skibby toilet?
[02:54:00] Unknown:
My my toilet Give it give it no riz? No cap for real? I I had my Or is that just sus?
[02:54:10] Unknown:
That, Alan was the wrestler. I I was suspicious this whole time. Look at look at your notes. The rizzler.
[02:54:17] Unknown:
I was suspicious the whole time.
[02:54:21] Unknown:
Yeah. The the whole whole full mailbox. My request to the chat and everyone on the Internet that ever hears this. If we could come up with a new, a new language, default so that we can talk about how men and women fall into hierarchical structure and not say, that guy's so alpha, bro, or whatever, you know, or that girl. I mean, usually, if a a female, gives off alpha traits, they don't call her alpha. They just call her a bitch. You know. Right? Rude.
[02:54:55] Unknown:
No. At least nowadays, I would say that the taboo is gone where But that's partially because dudes don't like alpha chicks, and and and they don't they don't want to have that recognition. Like, at the end of the day, dudes usually want their chicks to be chicks. And so alpha chicks, dude, don't like that. But but that's the difference between a real alpha woman
[02:55:16] Unknown:
and one of these, like, beta alpha women. You know, if we're gonna use the terms, like, that's not Is that a hashtag girl boss you're talking about? Right? You know? Because I mean, if if a woman is trying to be a man, that doesn't make her alpha. That doesn't mean that she's not, you know, gonna be submissive or, you know, allowing gracious. You know, she's not gonna be at homebody. That's not what that means. An alpha woman does all of those things a woman should do,
[02:55:48] Unknown:
but she just doesn't she doesn't hide it. She's not gonna be doesn't put her up with any bullshit too. That's just it. Yeah. She's not gonna put up with reasonable boundaries that she can check you. She might shoot you, you know, if the circumstances You know? I mean, that's You said something funny, Rachel, because you said, beta alpha together, and I I texted Jim earlier in the week that the most annoying thing to me about this whole thing, and it's just my own personal pet peeve, is that there used to be a grocery store chain in California called alpha beta. So I can't hear any of these discussions without thinking about going to the fucking grocery store. So to me, that's the so now you know my pet peeve. That's that's the real reason I want new language.
[02:56:28] Unknown:
You know? Is alpha beta a sorority or a fraternity?
[02:56:32] Unknown:
The main guy to talk to Wolf Meister. Let's change it to Wolf Meister. I think Wolf Meister is a better word. You know? That guy's a real wolf meister. You know, that to me, that would be better. I don't know what the other ones are. We're all the first impressions on the other ones, but scrub. Yeah. Don't be a scrub. Be a wolf meister, bro. Alright. Well, I love you guys. I'll watch my thunder.
[02:56:55] Unknown:
Move around for a bit. But, yeah, great conversation. Good guest.
[02:57:00] Unknown:
Good guest. Yeah. Thank you. Love your ankle. Going off that that belly. That's awesome. Right? That's The baby girl. My alpha flex. Cool. That's right. There's not a higher flex on earth. That's it. No. That's the one. I don't need to practice making a golem.
[02:57:17] Unknown:
I'm just repeating in ultimate science right now. Ultimate science. Alright. Good night.
[02:57:25] Unknown:
I was gonna ask, Christopher Macintosh, our previous guest about the golem and the author Mayerink and all types of topics. So we'll have to maybe speak with him again as well. You haven't seen the interview Alderson and I did with Christopher Macintosh in the previous stream. You premiered that 2 weeks ago. It's still hot and fresh,
[02:57:49] Unknown:
so be sure to check that out. It's good. I watched most of it. I need to go back and catch, like, the last, 10:10:15 minutes. And I saw you guys smoke a little bit after he left, but it was very good.
[02:58:01] Unknown:
Yeah. I still need to sit down and watch it. I haven't been doing anything but working and cruising through stuff since I got home, and I I really I really wanna be full a 100% attention. You know? Not I can't.
[02:58:17] Unknown:
No. You can't. I can't do it by far.
[02:58:21] Unknown:
Mackintosh. Super smart. The author of Occult Germany, and we wanna get into Old Cult Russia.
[02:58:29] Unknown:
Actually, I think he wants Yeah. We can put Macintosh and gateway all together.
[02:58:34] Unknown:
Get the the, the northern wind, I think. Oh, the northern wind book. Yeah. So let's do that one, and I already asked Mario, and Mario said he would come on. Maybe we could maybe try and schedule that as our return, after Flattoberfest as, like, a return type thing. And, Mario said he'd jump in too to try and because it's like a whole, northern symbolism book and everything too.
[02:59:00] Unknown:
So we're getting into September now. Audience here too is,
[02:59:04] Unknown:
or for you guys, on behalf of the audience, we had an announcement that we were gonna take a little bit of time off. An exceptional opportunity came up to interview this guy and, to talk about his book. Are we still planning on, reserving ourselves from from next week, week after? What do we have planned? Week, we're gonna have flow state
[02:59:24] Unknown:
next Saturday. Cool. Flow state. I don't know if you guys can make it, but we're gonna be get your art projects out and your books, and, we'll do some classic flow statings. Saturday night art parties with the spiders? Nice. Well, it's a flow state. Just worked on reading literature.
[02:59:43] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I do have some books I could read.
[02:59:47] Unknown:
That'd be great.
[02:59:49] Unknown:
Pillars of wisdom.
[02:59:51] Unknown:
Pillars of wisdom. I ordered mine. I mean, you know, the the price is high, but I figured, well, after everything he said and you guys giving it glowing glowing reviews, you know?
[03:00:02] Unknown:
Yeah. But I'm gonna have to I'm gonna sadly send this one off to you guys, but I think I'm gonna order my own because I want this book on my shelf. It's Plus then he said he's gonna I put my phone number, and they said he'll call me on the phone. So we'll see what he says in person.
[03:00:16] Unknown:
Get a 1 on 1 tech support call from Glow. Oh, sure. It's gonna be the upsell on the coaching, but I'll talk to him for 20 minutes. I think he'll talk to me in an Indian accent. Right now. Hold on, Kyle. Micro this is We'll both be sitting on a room together. Touch on Bob's. I need to touch Bob's in vaginas. Yeah. No no wheezing of the juice, bro. It's a squatty potty.
[03:00:38] Unknown:
What's up, Layla?
[03:00:40] Unknown:
That was always my favorite Indian, stereotypical Indian voice was, the guy telling Poli Shore that he's not allowed to drink directly from the Slurpee machine.
[03:00:49] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. It was funny to see a lot of these AI images that were being generated, which were absolutely terrible, disgusting, and hilarious all at once. It was a lot of Indian guys outside of Microsoft corporate headquarters in India with just brown streaks everywhere.
[03:01:07] Unknown:
Oh, dude. The I don't know why it's so popular right now. I don't know if it's an op or if it's a organic, thing. But, you know, the fighting against the the Indians online and the Indian men especially and Sure. The terrific pushback. Yeah. There's a lot more of them than us, guys. So don't be surprised if you decide that you're gonna poke the bear and attack all the Indian guys in tech service and other tech stuff. Don't be surprised when they over go side on the bright side, if they ever actually come for us, I'm good for, like, 9 of them at least just there for a moment. Alright. But just a personal note, I don't think that thought really enters into their mind.
[03:01:49] Unknown:
I know. That's how sad they are.
[03:01:52] Unknown:
There's no way. I won't nobody thinks about that. I know. Eventually, I'm gonna go change silent. I attack the American men. Yeah. There's no way that nobody thinks that total America attack American men. They just don't this thought doesn't enter your mind if you're sane. Do high value men ask for coupons and discount codes? I don't know if we'll be able to answer that question tonight, but there's not a discount code w t f. If there is a discount code, we'll find out a letter about the product and the Spire's telegram. We'll drop it in the spiders telegram if there is one. It doesn't seem like a discount kinda guide to me to survive.
[03:02:28] Unknown:
You know? Yeah. Yeah. These are, you know, current on demand. It's a lot of work. Really it wasn't us just blowing them up. Hold it flip through it again, Jim. The book is really a beautiful book. It's not a chintzy ad book. The the layout of each page is very intentional.
[03:02:46] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah.
[03:02:49] Unknown:
Yeah. There you go. Like, big picture, like, the The graphic design, the layouts, the font choice, everything is very, very beautiful. I bought it a lot of money. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. And time. This is this is a magnum opus. This is a life's work. And he was telling us how he was kinda competing against his his ancestors, his grandfathers, the other men who had written books and things. So he really wanted to pull out a word in this effort.
[03:03:15] Unknown:
Well, you gotta realize too what he said. Part of the reason why it's good, that you were able to get him on, Marcus, is because he really has been heavily censored. And, that doesn't mean that you have to go agree with what he said. But as we know, information that's removed from availability has immediate higher value because that means somebody desires to remove it from availability to you. You know? And that's really a big part of the conversation we had tonight was that information that used to not be available period 0 no matter what has been dumped on us in abundance now because the world is changing. And so now you can get the and you can get a brand new translation of the Zohar. And you can get a whole bunch of stuff that Sure. You can get a whole bunch of stuff that Sure. You know, never would have been available in any language, let alone English, you know. So things have just changed. So And there's also the quality of you know, if you download a PDF
[03:04:07] Unknown:
and you're reading it on your phone or your screen, it's a digital document. It's so much different
[03:04:12] Unknown:
than a paper copy. You can't even send a white robot lady read it to me. I don't even sit there and, you know, look at my phone like this and oh, yeah. Here it is. I just push the little button that makes it. Then I get the robot lady reading it to you, which is not the same as reading, folks. I listen to lots and lots and lots of audio of stuff, and it works. You know? Good. It's good, but it's not it's not the same as saying, alright. I'm gonna, I'm gonna put my phone down. I'm gonna make sure it's quiet enough in here that I can tolerate the noise background noise level. I'm gonna read. It's a totally different thing. You know? It doesn't mean that they aren't valuable, but dot com.
[03:04:49] Unknown:
That's the name of the website. It's a real website. It's a real book. Of wisdom.
[03:04:54] Unknown:
A real I know it makes you jealous. I gotta write a book, I guess.
[03:05:03] Unknown:
Fucking Sean.
[03:05:04] Unknown:
Well, I got my 10 years. There's more than 10 years. I'm older than him. So, I mean, I definitely have enough information here.
[03:05:12] Unknown:
Well, if he does, where will that book be? Where until that happens, where will it be, Tim?
[03:05:20] Unknown:
We live in your mind.
Music Intro End Begin Feature Presentation
Red Pill Community and Censorship
psychoanalysis is built on Mysticism
Cultural and Religious Influences on Dating
Chabad has decided that esoteric secrets can be available to the masses
September 11th was an occult ritual
Economic Systems and Masculinity
Prostitution and the Manosphere
What it means to be a man is contingent upon the greater economic system
4th Industrial Revolution and Conservatives going down with the ship
Controversial Topics and Pushback
Don't put MonsterTruck tires on a Toyota (Know Thyself)
Social Structures are the most Malleable during periods of chaos
"the red pill" meaning changed over time
Homesteading and Government Control
Andrew Tate takes over
Controlled Demolition of the United States
Homesteading and How does the Government 'quilt you'
Water Governance and Lawfare vs. kinetic warfare
James Bond 007 movies?
Predictive Programming and demoralization
NASA, Space Warfare, Flatearth
speed, dating, and Grittiness
Millennials damaged from hookup culture
Women and corporations (bailouts?)
Jewish Heritage and Religious Practices
The J's have high verbal 1Q, are prone to language games
Exchange Value Vs. Use Value
Tarot Cards
Tarot, Kabbalism, and Mysticism
ymbolism, Exoteric/esoteric within content (GLO's writing)
Eat or Be Eaten
Kojeve, Hegel, Master/Slave dialectic
Transhumanism
Indian (Dot not Feather) Tech Support Bros
Globalization and Cultural Integration
Closing Remarks and Future Plans
