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• Exploring Branding, Chickenpox, Lunar Eclipses, and the Political Landscape
• Unraveling the Microsoft Explorer-Netscape Navigator Rivalry and the Influence of Media
• Perception, Wheelchair Jousting, and a New Cafe for People with Disabilities
• Insurance Issues, Metallica, and the Power of Sitting Up
• Music, Parasites, Superstitions, and the Unexpected

#wsw 245 gnash+null skul N Bear knolls trolls tolls

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wsw 245 rose of the crrow flys for spring
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Balderson shares the story of a man named Ross Perot and his impact on the 1992 presidential election.

Katrina Johnson played Ross Perot - Earboy on Nickelodoen's All That

Around that time Microsoft Explorer-Netscape Navigator rivalry, pyramid schemes, and other fun memes were spreading.

The episode discusses various topics, including the perception of people with Down syndrome, wheelchair jousting, and the opening of a new cafe for people with disabilities.

The podcast episode covers various topics including insurance issues, the power of insurance companies, and the impact of insurance denials on individuals. The hosts also discuss Metallica's involvement with insurance and their reality show. They touch on the importance of standing up to insurance companies and fighting denials. The episode also includes conversations about music, movies, and societal issues.

In this episode, the hosts discuss various topics including music, parasites, and superstitions. They also touch on the concept of never drinking your own urine and the potential benefits of not spending money on "supplements". The conversation takes some interesting and humorous turns.

In this episode, the hosts discuss various topics including conspiracy theories, free energy, family secrets, and the role of Freemasonry. They also touch on the controversial actions of certain individuals and the challenges of growing a YouTube channel. The conversation is lighthearted and covers a range of subjects.

The episode discusses how people's behavior and speech patterns are influenced by the company they keep, with examples of teachers and prison guards. The conversation also touches on musicians who found religion and Christian entertainment.

Audio recorded live Saturday nights and streamed to:

https://rokfin.com/OdinsAlchemy

(00:00:00) branding ouch

(00:19:10) chickenpox and misdiagnosis

(00:28:00) lunar eclipses and cloud cover

(00:42:00) Ross Perot and his impact on the 1992 presidential election

(00:54:39) Microsoft Explorer-Netscape Navigator rivalry

(00:55:01) Changes in preloaded software and the Netscape Navigator involvement

(01:00:11) The influence of media on society

(01:53:44) Margaritas to celebrate Down Syndrome Day

(02:04:56) wheelchair jousting and the potential benefits

(02:08:55) new cafe to employee people with disabilities

(02:14:11) insurance companies claim they don't gotta pay

(02:39:08) Metallica's involvement with insurance and their reality show

(02:46:31) stand up to insurance companies and fight denials

(02:52:34) contradiction of rapping in the style of modern female rappers for Jesus

(02:53:12) favorite metal bands and the decline of Metallica

(02:55:08) personal experiences and stories about music and performances

(03:33:34) Conspiracy theories are free energy

(03:34:46) Family secrets hiding surnames

(03:40:38) Freemasonry and perception

(03:57:03) Controversial actions of certain individuals

(04:15:20) How people's behavior is influenced by the company they keep

(04:16:26) Discussion about Bob Dylan and his devilish facial hair

(04:18:23) entertainers who are "born again" again

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Oh,   we're live.  

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Well, that one looks like it would be painful to brand on.  

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Let's brand all night on there.  

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Yeah. You know how long that's gonna take up to heat in the fire?   Have you ever branded anything in it, Marcus?   I don't know about this, though. No. I don't I don't brand Mike House.  

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I branded my arm one time. Adjust the branding.  

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Okay.  

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Don't recommend.  

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Although, this this car is kinda cool. Yeah. I've definitely branded myself with some other things, especially when I was first starting dabbing.   When they,   Rose.   Tonight after the intro,   our special guest will be Rose.   Oh, yeah.   Oh, yeah.  

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Hi, Rose.  

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Are we over on the rock, Finn?  

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Oh, I gotta hit the go live.   Oh. Now that it's on the gotta call on. Hold on. I'm set up. I just gotta hit go live.  

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Rose is getting a wrench.  

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Go   live. It's live.   It's alive.  

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Very good.  

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You've been wrenched, Rose.  

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My bind ruin would make a kick ass brand. I agree. I was actually looking at,   ordering some,   like, the old school wax stampers and doing like that on it with my room. I thought that'd be cool as shit. Oh, that would be cool. Make a signet ring.   Yeah. Yeah. The   only thing I've ever branded   though was me back in the day when they   the nail the dabbers they used to have, they call them a,   a domed nail. So you heated up this little piece of metal inside the   inside there, and then you had to put a dome on top of it. That little piece of metal was just, like, free floating.   So if you if you jerk quick or anything, that thing would come flying out. And one time I was I was in a car driving. We were driving   to Reno   and   forget   that we hit a bump, and I just heated up that nail and it popped out right into my lap.  



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Oh. Oh, shit.   That sucks.  

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Yeah, man. Probably can't find it either right away. No. It was the only thing I could see because it was the middle of the night, and then I could think it was lower.   Like, that was the only good part. I could see exactly where that thing was. Oh, that's good. If I didn't already know by the fucking extreme burning sensation.  

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Well, yeah. And like it It might There's only one place you can put it and not burn something, and that's back in the bowl.   But Mhmm. It takes a you know, to claw arm that thing off your lap, you're gonna you're burning something.  

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You definitely don't wanna throw it onto the floor of the car because I tell you what. I was in that truck fire fucking that thing was so fast. I couldn't it was shockingly fast.   Vargas, kick off the damn intro.  

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What is the name of the show?  

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WSW.  

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You do this all the time. Like, 10 minutes into it, you're still fucking   around. Skull, bear, nose, trolls. Waiting on it. Don't be a dick.  

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Nose, trolls,   trolls, midnight oils,   holes.  

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He's trying to make a troll toll over here. Gotta rewind the tape.  

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You better rewind the tape.  

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It's taping time.  

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Remember this classic?  

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Massive.   I can't see   it,   though.  

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Imagine imagine  

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at dawn dawn,   a multidimensional   spider's world is covered   in beauty.  

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Up until 1 century ago, there lived   in the Ziduan   province of an eastern country,   a glass like spider.   Having devoured its prey,   it would drape the skeletons over its web,   and weeks creating the macabre of a shrine of remains.   His web was also unique in that it had many layers,   like the floors of the building.  

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And give them the assignment to build this power.  

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Care   were tiny, shining objects,   glass,   eaves,   dewdrops.   One could almost call it an altar.   When the breeze blew through this construction,   it produced sounds of wailing,   crying,   tiny wails,   tiny   cries.  

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A   vast, vast spider's web that is the whole cosmos.  

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This idea with the ghost below   helped me don't change. The  

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The baby spiders would get scared and search frantically for their mother, but the glass spider would have long gone having known that the babies would survive somehow   on their own.   Oh,   the glass spider had blue eyes almost like a human's.   They shed tears   at the winter turn of the centuries.  

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So Jewel's confused.   Sold.  

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And Indra's net   net   net  

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net.  

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And each jewel reflects   every other challenge.  

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The mutual interpenetration   of all things  

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And each jewel reflects   every young adult.  

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Indra.   Indra.   And that's the God of heaven.   Indra   is in charge of this massive   web. It almost looks like a spider web. Massive   web.   It almost looks like a spider web.   And this right here is a representation   of the web of Indra.   And Indra's web is really special because   there are some there are some jewels on it. Do you see the the jewels that are on the on the web?   On Indra's web,   there are an infinite   number of jewels.   Jewels.  

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And, there was a time when a great monster,   named Bootstrap   had they closed all the waters of the Earth.   And so there was a drought, terrible drought.   Well, it took this cod didn't drop quite a while to realize that he had a box of thunderbolts there, and all he had to do is drop the thunderbolts in the picture on them and just blow him up. And when he did that, the car seat moved up and the water flowed as the world was refreshed.   Then he said, why am I?   No interview before you. How you have a feeling? Such a problem. You match.   In picture, I'm making quite a good boy and I and dull nickel.  

And with this set of instructions,   Indra gives up this idea of going out becoming   a yogi,   and finds it in life, he can represent the eternal   in the way of a a symbol, you might say, of, the Brahmin and, the note of a true.  

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So Aether's Web   reminds us of the importance and interconnectedness   we are all connected to each other in this web.   Each one of these jewels   represents a person, a life form.   And whenever we are kind, we rebuild   the web. We make it stronger than it was before.  

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And he said, what am I?  

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These entries go so quickly.  

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Then he said, what a great boy. Am I?  

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That was great.  

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Who's a good  

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boy?  

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I think we all are.  

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And welcome, Rose.  

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Hello.   How's it going, guys?  

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What's up, Rose?  

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Happy to be here. Thanks for having me.  

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It's been a long while since we've talked to you.  

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I know. It's been way too long.   And,   this all started because I was bringing up how we needed to keep going through our,   box saga   journey, but I don't know if you still wanted to do that tonight.  

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Not tonight. But, yeah, we'll be on this we'll be on this all night, but we definitely need to finish that.   The box saga kinda has made   another resurgence,   it seems, and a number of people are talking about it again. Probably about I've seen about half a dozen podcasts in the last month or 2 talking about it again.   Oh. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. It's interesting. And that one makes its rounds. Only the   the except for   show on it, the newer podcast,   they all kinda gloss over, like, a lot of the   details.  

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Right. The details.   Yeah.   Yeah.  

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Alright. Well, what are we talking about tonight?  

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Well, what would you like to talk about?  

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Anything you wanna talk about.  

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Well, Marcus had a few interesting things he had brought up before   we started. We could kick start off with some of that stuff. He had some pretty interesting things.  

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Sweet. Do you know anything about chicken pox?  

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I had it when I was 4,   and apparently,   according   to the mainstream   understandings,   I gave it to my father.  

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Okay.  

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I have people who would say that we were just   in the same electromagnetic   environment,   but, apparently, I gave it to him.  

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Do you think anyone could be misdiagnosed   with chickenpox?  

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Why not? Sure.   Of course. Why not? I mean, really, the thing that makes chicken pox chicken pox is that you have the pox, and so maybe there could be multiple things that cause that symptom.  

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It's a new Well, certainly there was. I mean, we had measles, mumps, rubella, rubella,   quite a number of different packs.   Chicken was not the only packs.  

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Do the poxes look the same, though? Do chicken pox look like mumps pox and No. Pox? They're all kinda slightly different.  

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We don't have enough angry Englishmen running around telling people to put a pox on their family.  

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Sometimes apocalypse.  

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Sometimes it might just be herpes.  

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Yeah.   Well, when I maybe we should come up with a new insult, and we should say, like, pox off.  

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Like a pock saga?  

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That was like pock.  

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Go pocks yourself.  

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I'm gonna go around and start cursing people with a drip with a drippy groin.   If I'm gonna if I got if I got to curse you, if I'm that angry, then I'm cursing you. I'm gonna make it memorable.  

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Yeah. You you might as well. But what was about you were showing the study.   What about that what is the new information that that you wanna share?  

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The,   doctors   haven't seen it. So many doctors have not seen what chicken pox legions   appear like   because it's been   stamped out apparently.   So now they're reexamining   skin lesions   and trying to determine  

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if Legions or lesions?  

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Leash. Which one? Lesions.  

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Lesions.  

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Lesions. Yes. Oh, yes.   Yes.  

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You might have a legion of pox. So, I mean, you could go either way. I wasn't sure which one you were saying over there. Or a legion of lesions.  

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Correct.   So there's other symptoms that go along with that.   The doctors are encouraged to run the test, not just visually identify something and then say, oh, you got chickenpox or, oh, looks like a case of herpes, that sort of thing. So they're encouraged to run the tests   because, like, half of the study   of people who are diagnosed  

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Regions of doom. Having chickenpox,  

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in fact, did not have   chicken pox.   But this brings an interesting thing into the,   dollars and cents equation   because   after reading that article, I started seeing advertisements   for shingles,   like a shingles   sort of injection.   So people are being told that if they didn't have   enough fear of something, they should go and ask their doctors about their possibility of   having shingles.   So people over 65 should maybe consider   the fear of shingles.  

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I remember being told that if you've had chicken pox, you're gonna get shingles, and it's so painful. And  

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Isn't it the opposite?   Isn't it the opposite? If you actually had chicken pox, you don't get shingles.   But the reason that there's a kind of a rash of shingles now   is because they these are adults that got the vaccines   and didn't get the chicken pox.   And so with the chicken pox, you were you got a complete immunity. And if you got the vaccine, you were still susceptible to   shingles later in life was the way I understood it.  

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I feel like what you're saying makes way more sense, but I still remember them telling me that bullshit   and me being worried about it and thinking, well, maybe I'll pray the shingles away.  

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We'll just What I'm finding what I'm finding most interesting out of what he's saying, if you just kinda cut through the bullshit of it,   is that   they realize that they've not   had   medical   reasoning to call things what they are. So   throughout all these years, they've they've been   calling chickenpox   chickenpox   according to the symptoms.   And so you get these specific symptoms. They're like, you got chickenpox.   Well, now they have   to, under a microscope, prove that you have chicken pox. And before this, they were only ever doing it according to the symptoms. They didn't have any other way to   medically   prove that that's what you had. They're like, well, yeah. Of course, he has chicken pox. Look at him. He's got the chicken pox. There are the chicken pox.  

So that that's what I'm drawing out of this is that now they're having to basically backtrack   and   micros under a microscope   prove   why these things are you know, what's the underlying condition causing the pox?  

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What if it's vaccines   causing the pox, which is why there's a connection between pox and shingles because they both aren't they don't they're not correlated to each other. They just have a similar cause,  

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which is their regional vaccine. Been around that long.   The chicken pox hasn't been around that long? No. Vaccines haven't. Chicken pox been around forever. Vaccines only been around since smallpox. The smallpox vaccine was in the 1800.  

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Well, maybe when chicken pox was happening before vaccines, it was because of some kind of toxins in the water,   which otherwise wouldn't happen now because of hygienic   practices with water, but yet we're still getting it because now we're toxifying ourselves in a different way. I'm just making stuff up on the spot then. I don't know.  

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Right. Right. Right.   It's very interesting either way. And and like I said, what I got out of it is is that they don't have   any medical proof   outside of the symptoms to say, you know, to to name something this condition, and they're trying they're scrambling right now   to find   something you could label as medical proof. Like, look, here is   the   the chicken pox virus. I'm assuming they're calling it a virus. I don't know.   Here it is. Look at it. It gives you chicken pox, and they don't have that, and that's a problem for them.  

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So big pharma has been running this trial on a   non mRNA   adjuvant   adjuvanted   subunit vaccine,   here we go, in this medical trial   saying that it's   one to one to what the Shingrix is.   Shingrix.   Shingrix. So ask your doctor about   Shingrix   or this new Quervo's   shingles vaccine.  

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Shingrix  

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is not an easy word to say. And I remember being like, something from a video game in, like, the fucking in, like, the nineties, like Metroid or something.   The Shingrix monster is coming to get you. Yeah. Yeah. Or,  

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like, a downloadable game that's, like, in 8 bits.   And if there had been a board meeting at a company,   they would have said this name, maybe Shingrix or Shingrix, but Shingrix doesn't sound doesn't roll off the tongue. And they have meetings about pharmaceutical names, and they're supposed to be easy to say, and they have all these little rules and check boxes. So how did Shingrix get approved?   It doesn't make sense to me. The Shingrix doesn't does Pat agree with me that in, like, a board meeting,   it wouldn't fly   if you were, if you were out at that table, would you have allowed that name to go through? I wanna know who in the chat would have allowed that or voted for that name. Have you seen the names that we put on the show?  

I think they're better. I think you guys would do a better job naming Shingrix.  

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Yeah. We run it off each other before we   title it. I don't think they do. We consult with doctor Mario sometimes.   Just ask one other person.  

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If we can even pronounce our own titles. I think there's another title on Rockfin.   It's like a rare title, like different comic books have different covers on Rockfin. We are Rose of the Crows Flies for Spring.  

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Oh, that's the Rockfin title? Yes. Yeah. On Odin's Alchemy Rockfin.   This one's gnash and gnoll Skull and Bear Knoll's Trolls Trolls, which is like a tongue twister.   If I tried to say that 10 times, I probably wouldn't get it right every time.  

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Oh, we survived the March   3 22   day of yesterday, Friday.   Mhmm. And today is the 23rd. So we're doing well.   Has Warbin declared anywhere yet?  

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Nobody decided to break any eggs yesterday in order to make an omelette.  

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Just regional conflicts?  

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Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. And then tomorrow no. No.   Monday   is a lunar eclipse.  

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Oh, cool. Yes.  

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Nobody's talking about the lunar eclipse because everyone's talking about the solar eclipse. So the poor lunar eclipse isn't getting any attention. Right. Eclipse season.  

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So there's good news on that front in terms of probably being able to see it because low clouds will disappear.  

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Bring that story up. We should we should check the   astrology charts, and see where Rahu and Ketu are   in relation to the moon. Maybe something's going in front of it.   That would be a good thing to check. Well, I thought  

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that Rahu and Ketu did represent   the places   where the sun and moon crossed,   which is why people say that the eclipse could be caused by Rahu and k 2 because that's where they are. However,   Crow thinks that the moon   isn't part of it because he can't see it with his telescope.   But anytime that there's any kind of solar eclipse, it's a   new moon,   which you can't see anyway, which brings it back to the basic   mystery of what the hell   is the moon and its phases. Why the fuck are there times we can't see it? I understand that it's dark, but with all of our tools, shouldn't we have a way of zooming in on it with night vision?   I just wish that.  



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Absolutely. And even in the daytime, when the moon's up and the sun's out, like like, 3 days ago, it was out. It was beautiful. It was, like,   just about   35 degrees off the horizon.   And   it was pretty full. It was, like, 3 quarters full or something. But   the part that was dark, I could see right through it. Blue skies right through it. Like, there was no orb there. There was no darkness there.   It's just   it's weird, you know?   It it doesn't exist to me. It looks like it's some kind of a light or a projection or a,   you know, I don't know.  



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It's so an articulated   silver.  

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Articulate silver?  

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Oh. Oh.  

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Yeah. And that's why it's it's it takes in that solar the sun's energy and   the radiation   just like it does in a solar panel.   And then   when silver particles take in   radiation, they form little bonds, and it makes it look all solid.   And then it releases as luminescence.  

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Are you   kind you're making me think that the moon is doing what happens to the cowboy child in Willy Wonka,   where he goes up and he he becomes all these little pieces   in order to transport   somewhere.   And so maybe during a new moon, the moon has broken down into little pieces and went somewhere.   So during the solar eclipses,   it's a new moon, so it's not really there, but the nodes   are creating the black   indentation.  

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It's like   photography.   They use silver nitrate,   and when light hits it, it solidifies and it turns dark in different layers.  

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See what I'm saying? Something like that.   See what I'm saying?  

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That's interesting.  

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And, alchemically, the moon's silver. And silver, when it   gets hit by light, it takes it soaks it in, and then   actual silver particles   will release that as a luminescence. That's why the moon glows.  

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Yeah. It definitely glows. It puts out its own energy source,   its own light. I've done that experiment where you go out with a thermometer   during a full moon, and you measure the ground   in the moonlight,   and then you measure the ground in a shadow, like under a tree. The moonlight's not touching the ground, and the moonlight is, like, 8 to 10 degrees colder   than the ground in the moon shadow.  

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So That's that's what the story here, I think, is talking about with the low level clouds   disappearing because of the the cooler   air.  

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Interesting.  

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So they're running these experiments to see during solar eclipses,   and they're talking about cloud cover data   being, the the visibility of it. So the low level cumulus clouds, which tends to top out altitudes around 1.2 miles,   were strongly affected by   a degree of solar obscuration.   Cloud cover started to decrease when about 15% of the sun's face was covered.   About 30 minutes after the start of the eclipse, the cloud started to return to normal only about 50 minutes after maximum obscuration.   And whereas typical cloud cover hovered around 40% in noneclipsed conditions, less than 10% of the sky was covered with clouds   during   maximum   maximum obscuration that teams noted.  

So on a large scale, the cumulus clouds started to disappear   during this eclipse.   Lots of people were wondering about whether or not they'd even be able to see if they're in the path of totality.  

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Okay. So if I understand correctly, the clouds seem to dissipate under the conditions of that kind of eclipse?  

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That's what it's saying. Due to they're they were looking at past data   and then finding that   it cooled, so the low cumulus clouds just sort of dissipated.  

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That is so cool. Well, they were specific about cumulus clouds.   Yes.  

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Hot. Right. Right. Clouds. I see what you did there, Ben. But, yeah, we weren't talking about necessarily man made nature. Pollution.   Yeah. Smog.  

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Smog.   Sure.  

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I don't I mean,   I like the e you know, obviously, I enjoy eclipses. I find it very interesting, period.   I think the whole x thing is nonsense. Like  

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Oh, like, who cares?   Who cares? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

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Like, the old eclipse from 3 years ago went this way, and an eclipse now went this way, and an eclipse from 83 years ago went this way and this way. What the fuck are we doing? You're stupid.  

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Well, okay, then. I think that   it probably doesn't mean much,   but I   still enjoy it in the same way that I enjoy that it's gonna be,   420   2024   this year. You know, like, April 24th, 24. It's like a palindrome.   Like, oh, yay. The year is 123123.   That's what the x is to me. It's like, oh, that's cool. It's going through.   But then why that but it just brings up the other subject of why do why are people not creative with their naming? Why do they have to continuously   chain choose the same names for everything?   Like, even people's names,   repeating names. Like, why can't people just make up a name? Like, I would never call my kid like,   like,   it's   not accepted by society, but it why is that? You're not black. It's a cool name, though.  

I think yeah. Yeah. Go. No. No. No. No. I could you're right. You're right. In black culture, it's acceptable to make up the name. You can make up a name,   but it's not acceptable   for white people to make up their child's name,   I don't think, in this society.   Well, no. Nowadays, they're making up really weird names for their kids. Like, Elon Musk is white, and he's doing  

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x y z. 12 Yeah. They're just dumb. That's Hollywood people. They're dumb. I mean,   at the end of the day, there's definitely something to names, period.   Because   we've all   got people that,   there's a certain name of somebody that you have, like, 12 friends that are all named. Like, I've got a bunch of friends named Jen and a whole bunch of friends named Sarah. And   but,   you   can kinda   love those groups.   You see real distinct similarities.   And then there's certain people that have a name that   you just know you're not gonna get along with.   Like, I never got along with Tim and with I can't think of a single person named Tim I've ever been friends with, and I can think of a whole lot of people I haven't. Like, I don't know. Something about if your name's Tim, I don't like you for some you know? I'm   sure there's exceptions, but there's just   you start noticing certain characteristics   about certain people with certain names  

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or aspects of names. Like Yeah. Why is it that all my friends in my friend group was Lindsay, Britney, Kelsey,   Ashley,   Christy.   Yep.  

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Yeah. And and you would expect them to dress a certain way by that name and act a certain way and talk a certain way.  

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Yeah.  

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Do you think Elon Musk's children are going to change their names when they turn 18?  

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Oh, probably. They're rich people. They don't care.   Yeah. That becomes their brand.   Like, when you're when you're a rich person, I doubt you know, I'm sure they go through   a teenage angsty stage about it. You know? Why'd you name me Sue? I'm a boy.  

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What's the thing about the double names where   you've got   the first and middle that go together with the dash, like, Kelsey Ann.  

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You know, that's that that is for   degrees   of   degrees of how   much in trouble they are.   So   depending on, you know, how much trouble the child's in, you might just say their nickname,   like my oldest daughter. Her name's Ashley,   funny enough with those names. But, and and definitely she was, she was the little   model and everything else. And   but,   if if if she's not in trouble, it's Shosh.   If she's in a little trouble, she's ash she's Ashley. She's in a lot of trouble. It's Ashley Marie.   You know? And if you say throw that middle name out there in that real quick succession,   they're like,   oh, fuck.  

Oh, no.   So that's that's what that's for. That's why you have to make them go together. That way you can throw it out there all quick and make them go, oh, god.   I'm in a lot of trouble.  

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In the Latin cultures, they keep both the paternal and the maternal name.   So if you're, you   know,   father's last name was Garcia   and your mother's last name is Vasquez, then your name is Garcia   dash Vasquez.  

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That's from the,   classification   of our society,   and it's ridiculous.  

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I thought that was an old way.  

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Are those full legal names that we're talking about specifically? So on legal documents,  

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they're including that? Yeah. Yeah. Because I remember I met someone   whose last name was Ramirez Ramirez.   Okay. And I was like, what's the point   of saying it twice?  

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So that might get us to the topic of   passports and identifications.   And with a voting year, are we going to have   a need for identification   to be able to vote?  

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Well,   if I ever   wanted to participate in choosing a master to   be over me, then yes. I suspect that they would require   an identification   to show that I am stupid enough to say   I vote for one of these fucking   complete jackasses that would in no way   try to benefit my life   if they could.  

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Oh, I love how you said that. I mean,   I'm so glad that   you said it like that because it's that's perfect.  

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Can you tell me the story of Ross Perot?  

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Oh.   Well, okay, kids. This is a good story.   One day, there was a man who had so much money   that he was able to break   the normal conventions   that had been set up for politicians.   And   the large prime time networks   had certain requirements that they had placed in order to ensure   that only the candidates that they want were allowed to speak.   And Ross Perot had enough money that he was able to single handedly,   without a party backing him, meet those   those requirements.   So little old man Ross Perot got on the main stage   and told the world how NAFTA was gonna go   to all the industry in America and take all the American people's monies away. And then we watched it happen after we voted for Bill Clinton.  

Like and then he also told people how the the federal reserve works and how fractured   how the fractured monetary system works. And the whole world went,   What what what why what do you mean?   And then after Ross Pro, they made sure that, they tightened that system up.   So never again   would a singular independent   person without even the pretension   of the green party   or the,   what's the other one? The ones that are, libertarians   or any of that   without even the pretension of that behind him.   They make sure that's never happening again.  

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Didn't they threaten his daughter's wedding or something? And so that's   how they yeah. They they they scared the shit out of him, which caused him to not   continue.   But I'm so happy that you told that story because I didn't know those little details about him being kind of like a mini truther.   That's so cool because I was so young that my memory of Ross Perot,   I only think of, like, an episode of a Nickelodeon   show called All That where there was, like, a little actress that dressed up with Ross Perot   with, like, big ears and a big nose.   My memory, I'm I'm gonna be Perot was like a bomb  

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on that fucking stage. He's like, yeah. Here's what's going on, guys.   Like,   what?   What do you mean?   Like, he just laid it out. He's like, yeah. You guys want your country ran into the ground and also Mexico. Mexico is also gonna horribly suffer from this. You want that to happen, go ahead and sign this thing. It's gonna be horrible.  

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Christy, people remembers  

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what I was talking about, I think.   She said she went to that show. And then also David Barsi said that, oh, yeah. Dana Carvey   did the Ross Pro impression. So I don't remember the real Ross Pro. I just remember the impressions   of him. Yeah.  

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Yeah. And they were good impressions, and you had to enjoy   during that time frame,   Saturday night live was not   one-sided   politically. They just win at everybody. Like, if you bothered poking your head up in the political arena,   you understood   that Saturday Night Live was gonna take a whack at you. And that was that was fair. That was good. That was all good. I, you know, I'm not even against it. I'm not, like,   promoting   old dead Ross Pearl.  

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That's so funny. Thank you for putting that up. That's like   wow.  

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When kids are learning about politics from Nickelodeon.  

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Wait. Okay. Okay. K k k k k. That's the Nickelodeon one. Yes.   Not the real Ross Perot. Could you show me what the real Ross Perot looks like?  

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The real Ross Perot. Please stand up. Please stand up.  

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Frost pro.   Oh, he doesn't look that funny. I mean, I could see what they're trying to go for. You know,  

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he wasn't exciting because he's out there explaining fractional reserves. You gotta play a video of him talking to get the full effect. He's got Yeah. I know. Strange little Texas billionaire voice. I love it. Bro. Yeah. He's talking about  

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fractional reserve lending about fractional lending and shit. You know? Like,   that's just not that hot of a fucking topic for people most people. Like,   about 83 of people in the whole country went,   Jesus Christ.  

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And then everyone else just went to go look at Saturday live.  

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Yeah. Bill Clinton was more fun.  

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Yeah.  

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And we they almost   and Obama tried to push,  

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even Clinton. Played the saxophone on their Arsenio Hall show. Come on, guys.  

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Yeah. Cool. And he's not gonna do it.   Arcidio.  

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When when I was a kid and I heard that he said he didn't inhale, I knew he was lying.  

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You inhaled.  

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When he said depends on what the definition of is Is.   At that point in time, you just walk up and you just punch him in his in his fucking mouth real hard. And, like, do you know the definition now, Bill?   Do you know it now?  

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That's what is is.  

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The hard way. Yeah.   You know, that's some horseshit, the nonsense that happened there.  

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That's awesome.  

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To the floor. Now whose fault is that? Not the Democrats. Not Republicans. Somewhere out there, there's an extraterrestrial that's doing this to us, I guess.   And everybody says they take responsibility.   Somebody somewhere has to take responsibility for this.   Now just for record,   I don't have any spin doctors. I don't have any speech writers.   Probably   shows. I make those charts you see on television. It's not show.  

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Yeah. And Bill Clinton was such a good looking man.  

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He was He was not.  

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You know, everybody just went on about it, and Ross Pro was not charismatic   or good looking. And like you said, he was not polished, but the dude fucking knew what the hell he was talking about. And everything he said that was gonna happen if we walk down the path we were taking happened.  

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Oh, Ross Perot, where are you today? Are you dead   today?  

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Wherefore art thou, Osterholm?  

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Hear you. I could write a pretty good song, Wherefore Art Thou, Osterholm.   Oh.  

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Oh, yeah. He died in 2019   right before the COVID hoax. He would have been such an awesome person to speak out.  

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Just imagine the different trajectory the country would have taken because he might be pretty old by 2019.  

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He's dead by 2019.  

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No way he can That's when he died. That's when he died. He he lived till 89 years old. He died in 2019.   If he had lived one more year, he could have come on to Crow Triple 7 Radio or the Poppycock Report to be an anti   with me.  

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He would have been an anti bad. I really it's too bad we didn't get word earlier because I would have loved for you guys to have been able to have Ross Perot on. And I know. Oh, shit.  

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They say, you you you know the guys just could sit there and be like, hey. You guys remember when we made things in America and and and it  

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NAFTA.  

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You sounded like a cone head there.  

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Like like, fuck, man. You know? Like, could you guys have   it's literally like watching a little kid when they smack their head in the wall and telling them to stop and they keep doing it. You're like, I told you it's gonna give you a headache. That's gonna hurt. It's gonna suck. You're doing it anyways.  

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So did Ross Perot meet the deep state?  

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You know he did. That's why they're threatening his kids.   Yeah.   Yeah. So it's so funny.  

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And then the Republicans,   you know, blame,   Bush, which Bush was never electable.   Ever electable. They tried pretending like it was pro's fault that Bush didn't get reelected, and he only got a single term. Right. Dude, that guy was so bad. He couldn't get elect he couldn't win win an election in Texas.   The only the only reason you guys got ever got him into the White House is because you put him in as VP behind Reagan  

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and then, like, slipped him in after the Reagan years when everybody had a economic Woah. And they they did coincidentally have him head up the CIA first. That way that some skids could be greased on the back of the house.   Spread. Well, yeah. And, you know, few people die and weird things happen, you think maybe I'll just go ahead and go with the guy that they like just to play sometimes you play it safe. You don't stick your neck out, and   it seems like the invisible powers kinda want the ex CIA guy to be the head of the country. Maybe you say, I'm gonna I'm not gonna fight this one. I'm gonna give him a pass.  

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So you think it was predetermined   before   CIA and not after? Because what if the CIA was, like, the audition?   And then after the CIA, it was like, yeah. He's perfect for the job.  

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Me, personally, I think they probably they have people   slated for life, then they got a idea. They're gonna put them in there, like, decades in advance. That's my personal view on the whole thing. I'm leaning towards that as well. Because the Bush family, people need to know. Okay? So if you're just looking at the basic   secret power structure families, you got Rothschild, Rockefeller,   Harriman, and then the Bush family. And the Bush family got into the big banking cartel's business by being a bag man for the Harriman family. I think it was Solomon Bush   or Prescott Bush was just holding the bag   for the Harrimans. So they're not really   a wealthy   entity. They're not really part of the game, you know. They don't have that John d Rockefeller clout. They sure as hell don't have that, Nathaniel Rothschild clout, you know.  

And so they're just   they're just hired hand, bag man. You know? Like, your limo driver who's also willing to drop drop off a package that's wrapped up in black electrician's tape that you don't wanna talk about it.   That's the bushes.  

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Well, you stop and you look.  

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They pretend like they're cowboys from Texas. Don't forget that part.  

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So an interesting study, they just had a a   I think they just made a documentary on this whole fella.   There's that guy,   shit.   Arm and Hammer.   And it's Armand Hammer's,   grandson.   And,   they singularly   without being these because this corporation thing is a very new thing.   You know, there was this where everything turned into a corporation that once again, we're actually talking about   politically the time era where this happened was in the nineties   when,   Clinton removed   the monopoly laws, which was interesting because he did it while he was attacking   Microsoft   supposedly   for breaking the monopoly laws. He was   removing the monopoly laws, and we went from having,   prior to that,   thousands of media organizations   and a robust   competition in our economic   field,   sector,   it dropped it down to just a couple people that are playing together.  

And so that's just super interesting   that,   that's what we're talking about all, you know, this happened during that same time period   that these monopolies were allowed to happen.  

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They always do that. Right?   They can't fight what they're pushing through at the same time.  

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Supposedly they put in there because of the fight with,   Bill Clinton. Like, I remember   it. You could put the one I remember was you could put impeach Bill Clinton. And if you highlighted it and went to the source, it would say I'll drink to that.   Right.   Yeah. No. It's shit like that. Little shit like that was all in there.  

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Well, plus the preloaded software had changed too to accommodate   the non   monopoly bullshit. You know? Like, usually Yeah. The blow the bloatware   changed. Now they didn't just remove it like all of us would prefer, and they didn't call it bloatware yet.   But   the preloaded software   selection changed because the Netscape navigator was somehow involved. I remember too. You know, that was a Yeah. And Netscape was saying that basically because of Microsoft  

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exclusively   using Explorer   as their   search engine   that came in the what you're calling, the   browser, that,   that basically drove,   because Windows complete, you know, completely crushed the market. So that made it so by de facto,   you know,   Explorer crushed the market.   And and Navigator in and of itself was actually very unfriendly to use if you tried to use that through the Windows application.  

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Yeah. And that's what you're doing. That was the the lawsuits.   No. No. That was I mean, it was true though because,   like, we didn't understand that there could be more than one browser as   to use the Internet. You know?  

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Lots of people maybe were on the Internet sooner that were kinda tech nerds and geeks and being on list servers. Cities, they were just getting 56 k in 95 because I lived in Minneapolis. And the air I lived in Bloomington, which is a very,   it's not a diner,   but it's a, you know, fairly influential area   of Minneapolis, and they just had gotten it 95. Yeah.  

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And so most people wouldn't realize   that they could choose something other   than Explorer   by default.   So Explorer was the window that you looked through the Internet for. So then so to me, Netscape Navigator always had a valid claim. And then what was it? Firefox? There was one before Firefox that came out that was pretty popular.  

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Mosaic.  

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Yeah. Mosaic and then AOL was just terrible.  

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Well, back then they had,   they had meta crawler and web crawler. Yeah. Yeah.   Then we're supposed to be, like, more of a meta end the first meta engines that were supposed to combine different engines. Yeah. I remember they had one called dogpile  

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that would use all   dogpile. You would type in your search results, and it would bring you results   from Google, from Meta, from Ask Jeeves. Remember Ask Jeeves?  

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Oh, yes.  

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And,  

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Ask Jeeves. Wow. What a blast from the past. Yeah. Yahoo Yahoo was really huge.  

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Yeah. Well, you   one called that they had a commercial that it was, like   supposedly, it was so smart, and then it show it showed her a picture. It's like, ah, that's Shinola.   You know, and that made me laugh because, you know, she knew shit. The thing knew shit from Shinola.  

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I   don't remember that one. That's funny as hell, though. It was a funny commercial.   And, you know, we didn't forget Netscape. We said that one for.  

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But when you look, the arm and hammer story,   really stands out   where just a very short time ago, his grandfather   was had access as a singular   company owner,   had access to royalty.   There's pictures of him sitting with the crown. There's that speech where,   numbnuts that's king now   gave that speech of how are we supposed to do anything without money?   And then Armaghan Hammer's Hammer's sitting on his right hand, and Armaghan is like,   on the money.   You know? And you're like, you fucking bunch of assholes.   But that that was not that long ago. So   these, like, BlackRock type corporations,   just a a few just our grandparents' generation,   there was more singular individual power   and wealth and family wealth and whatnot. It wasn't into these,   unassociated   corporations.  

And Ross Perot was the best was a great example of that where he had his own money and power. He didn't need to answer to anybody else. He could go do what he wanted.   The the way that they're trying to paint Trump,   during this first election and in this one where he doesn't have to answer to that blah blah. That actually was Ross Perot.  

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Right. He was kinda pretending like Trump is similar to Ross Perot. I've always seen them as using the model   of Ross Perot as a way to handle Trump. You know? Yep. Yep.  

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Exactly. Only you know Trump's bought in. That's why they made it so Ross a true Ross Perot couldn't happen again on the main stage.   Short of him owning   those networks,  

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you will not get on the networks. That's just never gonna happen. Well, there's a there's a few stories we could go back and forth to time, like, what's happening now or what happened in the past.   Right now,   Apple is in,   a lawsuit because their iPhone is too good. So apparently because the iPhone is too good, the only other option is Android, but we no longer have Palm Pilots. We no longer have Windows Phones. We don't have the Amazon Fire,   Kindle phone thing,   Blackberry.   Right.  

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Hillary Clinton beat them all up with a hammer. Now we don't have any.  

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She said, I think she done bleach on them too, right on the hard drive.  

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But let's let's not forget that at a time, there was a gay cure app on iTunes store that has been removed. Black. You're not shadow banned. Well, I mean, I don't maybe your show is, but I see you, bro.  

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So the Itunes   app store is always kinda coming up in the news. There was a change.org   petition signed back in 2,000, I think, 8 because of an app called by name, in quotes, gay cure,   which was from the Orlando based Christian group called Excess International.  

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There will be 3rd.  

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Do you want another one?  

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I was gonna grab the.  

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Apple removed the app. There's a number of concerns about this. And when there's been a lot of concerns about the   app ecosystem, we can tie this to what's going on now with will they ban TikTok, or will they force   TikTok   to split up and create an American company   for it to   allow   customers in America to have access to TikTok through an American company.  

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I mean, all the apps are already going to it.   Every one of the apps right now has a little 15 second clip thing that you can   load up whatever bullshit 15 second clip where you pretend like you say something meaningful, but, obviously, in 15 seconds, you didn't.  

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Right.   So a lot of people have moved to the 15 second,   phone horizontal. It's the toll video, the short clip thing.   That's probably   a genie out of the bottle now, and people are going to want to have those short clips.   Sure.  

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Well, it conditions your your already short attention span to be even shorter, and we're all subject to it. Like Ben said, they you know, it started what back in the day with Vine. Right? You know, there there might have been something that was doing it before Vine, but Vine really blew up. And so everybody started to integrate it. I got so mad at my Instagram account when I immediately saw them trying to move towards this. It's like, no, Instagram has an aesthetic vibe that's really cool. It's like Facebook without bullshit. Just a picture   and some captions and comments, and that's it. So it's cool. So don't fuck it up. And, of course, they fuck it up, yo. And then yeah, it's everywhere. You can't get away from it. There's 15 second videos and people destroying arts and crafts supplies for 20 minutes, and you watch all the way to the end to see that they did not successfully   make anything with a $150 worth of resin and paint, etcetera, etcetera.  

You know?   And it's all on purpose is the worst part. You know? When your timeline jumps, like, it goes right back to where you were, like, you you you close the app or you go off the page. You come back an hour later. It's it's loaded to exactly what you were looking at, and you're like, yeah. And you're reaching to touch it, and it goes   like a fucking,   casino. You know? And then they do that on purpose so that you'll chase down the timeline to get back to where you were. And the same thing with, all these videos that they want you to click and pictures and stuff that, it doesn't answer the question. It shows you them   38 seconds of steel mill production with a huge orange fire and sparks and a piece of globular steel,   Like like the dude doing, like, fucking Exactly. To a blacksmith. Bad. But there's, like  

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techno. The pop nineties  

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You know?   Right. But if the girl's cut her thumb and she's trying to put a Band Aid on and her dog's trying to help her or something, it doesn't make any sense. And the the difference with that, with  

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the TikTok or Vine model of   just sitting in front of your slab, looking at your fondle slab, waiting for something new to pop up on it, it shows   you endless content. The clips might be 15 seconds,   but you'll be sitting there hypnotized for 15  

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minutes. Well, that well, that's because   the problem is is they make those perfectly.   That that 15 seconds, we've been truncated down to where in that clip, there's a beginning   and it, a middle, a little journey, and an end.   And for us as a site society,   we've been truncated down to where that's what we can expect. So it's like our brain has, like, little compartments, and it's like, oh, I got a whole thing. And it's no different than if you were at work and say,   you you're at you're at a job,   and you you need to produce 5,000 pieces a day. But you get   you get a sheet that has 4,000 lead parts that are super easy to make,   and a thousand of these parts that are super hard to make,   you're gonna obviously wanna do the the 4000 that are easy to make it, especially when you get the same credit. This is how the marijuana industry got fucked over, how so many pie heads went to jail   because   police police officers get the same credit for a cannabis arrest   as they do for a murder arrest. So which one is the one they go for?  

They go for the potheads.   They are much easier to arrest. They don't really fight back. They watch over.   Exactly. So when you're on base so your brain functions in kinda the same manner.   It's like if it can take up a whole piece something and be done with it and compartmentalize   it   in a short time frame instead of a long time frame, it's like, well, fuck. Yeah. I'll take that.   You feel like you've gotten more done?  

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Do you think the Department of Justice is gonna feel like they've gotten something done when they go and bully Apple without having   a clear plan ahead of them? They're they're saying that Apple is just the only phone that exists, so   that's a bad thing. That's a monopoly in some way.   But at the same   time at the same time, were Americans told not to purchase Chinese Huawei phones,   Huawei?  

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Huawei. What the fuck is this Huawei? Say that one more time, please. Oh,  

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I don't know how to speak  

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Chinese. Put word in the fire, please. It's like  

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Huawei.  

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Any phone from them. I like it better as Huawei. Huawei.  

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Huawei. Mhmm.   Well, that it's a weird dance too because   we can say that they had a monopoly, but then also   they have to say,   we we as consumers   chose   to   buy that product the most. There is other options. We have just, as consumers, decided that we don't want them.   I'm sure that there's still other   Huawei's or something, but nobody wants a Huawei.  

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They might have better Well, they're not allowed to think about whether or not they really want it either. The advertising and the lobbying is so powerful that   I mean, how at this point, there's no way to really get in competition with Apple for the phone market.  

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You know? Is it advertising and lobbying, or is it in the the Explorer,   Net Netscape Navigator vein?   Where is it Explorer's fault that Windows was much more popular than the other,   operating systems?   Is it is it,   when is   it Explorer's fault that that came with Windows? That just was a good lucky boon for them. That's the market. That's the odds you take. Somebody's transformers, somebody's go bots.  

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Passing on the edge. I could see that there I think there is some some credibility to that line of thinking, but I also think that the,   that they plan out and,   engage what they want to hit the market and how a lot harder,   than most people realize too. So, you know, I thought Explorer was always Microsoft's product for one thing as far as that being an example. I I, you know, maybe maybe Explorer was separate and Microsoft bottom. At one point in time, it was separate. They were just  

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supposedly   according to the nineties lawsuit,   Microsoft was its own entity.   Explorer was its own entity,   and,   Netscape Navigator was its own entity.   And where the lawsuit came in was that Windows came preloaded   with Explorer, which then because I mean, if it was part of   Windows itself, how do you even complain about that that you have your own thing in your thing?   Like, that doesn't make sense even. It was that they were basically   making it so Explorer   1 The default. De facto. Yeah. Right.  

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And you could use Explorer to explore your files   as well   on your system. So there's multipurposes   to it. But they focused on the web connection aspect as an Internet browser   before there was   as many decided upon standards   We're watching a Huawei  

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video here. Boat. It's a pretty big boat.  

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And this is to sell a cell phone?  

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This is   to sell investments in the company.  

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Huawei. Are they are they Huawei.  

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Is it a zoo? Is this like,   like, why was that dude out wrestling a tiger   and with the pink glowy stuff that looks like it's probably gonna get injected into people. And what the fuck? Why is this guy Huawei.  

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Sounds like Huawei.  

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Huawei. Huawei. Sounds like Amway. Sounds like Huawei. Huawei. So it's not the American Huawei. It does sound like Yahweh.  

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No wonder they didn't want us to have this phone. We'd all get closer to God.  

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The the God phone.  

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The God phone.  

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Do you guys remember EarthLink?   The one of the the founders Oh, yeah. Founders went to jail for a 105 years.  

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The EarthLink founder.  

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Woah. EarthLink.  

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That sounds like a weird EarthLink. Let Yeah. Refresh our memory. Enlighten us. Enlighten us.  

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Firstlink.com   was just another browser. It was a browser,   and and it was like Netscape Navigator, that kind of era. It was I think it was went public in, like, 1997.   So it was like those days, and I, like, used to hang out with his son.   I just it's always like, oh, wow. His dad's in jail.  

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See, I I saw   this conversation   had made me sound somewhat computer savvy,   And it I am not at all computer savvy, nor do I understand   in in computer terms any of the things I previously said.   That is literally me just remembering the lawsuit and the things they said in the lawsuit.   Like, does that mean a goddamn thing? Could I use Windows or do any   of these little things that they're talking about? No. I I don't fucking know how to do any of these things. So  

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he plead guilty to 15 counts of fraud that saw investors cheated out of more than 254   $1,000,000. We laundered money with mail fraud, wire fraud,   and conspiring   to obstruct   justice.  

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Is it because his name's Reid Slapkin?  

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Yeah. Now he's been reading the same thing I was reading. You know?  

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Yep. 2002, April 30th.  

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If your name if your name if you're born with the name craven gang leader, life is already looking poor for you. You already have,   you know, some bad things coming your way. You know?  

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Crazy game leader.  

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Does it say the flavor of fraud? Because, I mean, I I I realized in the last 10 years, the flavor of fraud is is invest in our company, and then we invest reinvest that money into something else in order to try and make money off the investment and not actually share that somehow.   And then that investment turns out to be bad, so all the money's gone. There's law laundering money,   mail fraud, wire fraud,  

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and conspiring to obstruct justice.   Back over 15 years of his   lifetime as a financial adviser to the rich and famous.  

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So, yeah, tell us more about his son, Rose. We wanna know. So it was obviously, that natural tension is there. You know, not only is his dad in jail in prison, but you also probably already know, like, he's not getting out. It's not like, hey. He's gonna be in there a couple of years. He's gotta do a stint, or, hey. He's gone to jail for 60 days. Like   but so then you're still hanging out. So what were you guys, like, playing video games or board games or, like, eating french fries, or what was happening  

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next? Oh, it's so interesting because,   I   started to realize that a   company that I was working for was a scam. It was, like, a couple of weeks of me being there, and I was like, this is this is not,   a good situation.   And I   had made a couple of sales, and then I went I, like, memorized the person's email address, and then later, like, went into their account and canceled it for them because I knew they never would, and then I quit. But he was also working there, which is funny because, you know, like, father, like, son. Right.   Planning on leaving there. But   he was putting on a,   fundraiser   masquerade   party.  

And I remember I went with my mom too.   So me and my mom went to his fundraiser,   And, yeah, he was just like you could tell he was just into, like, all these little hustles   of sorts, whether it's putting Yeah. It's  

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it's hard if your dad's like a a total embezzling,   lying cheater not to pick it up from him when you're young. Right? Like, you're learning whatever he's showing you. So I that's what I thought when he told me who his dad was. So   he's like And plus that time, late nineties, early 2000 was, like,   scam central anyway. So  

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I've been able to access at the age of access had ended, the age of rip all that money off began.  

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That's right. Exactly. Run the bubble up. The thing is is right when you're about to pop it, all of the criminals know they go 3, 2, 1, go. Like, the bubble is in the process of popping. We gotta steal  

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everything in the liminal space. That's how this that's that's what really happened. It's like that fucking thing where they lock in the box and all the money's blowing around you. That's right.  

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So read Elliot Slatskin   new Charles Ponzi.  

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Perfect. What's the name?  

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The name Ponzi. Go  

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go to the master and learn directly from the master. Why do they call it a Ponzi scheme, sir? Tell us, please.  

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The story of Shalini.   People that ripped off all of us.  

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Slatkin, is that what you said?  

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Slatkin, s l a t k I n.   Also having to do with Scientology   as well.  

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Oh, and that is I had always wondered why the you know, we were talking about firsts and middles. Right? We're talking about names. So people,   if you know someone that goes by their first and middle, but they never say their last name,   maybe their parents are famous and in jail because I never knew his last name until after that. I was like, oh, he always goes like Justin Michael on my space. You know? Justin Michael. But I never saw his last name, like, not even once the whole time I knew him until I found out. He was nice. Oh. Yeah. Justin Michael is your first name.  

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Yeah. It's not good when you you Google someone's first and last name, and the top result is Wikipedia, and the second one is sec.gov.   Yeah.  

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Yeah.   Yeah.   Right.  

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How about you work out?  

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Well, yeah. I mean, you know, if you come up and it says, you know, director,   then that's the amongst SEC filings. I mean, in my opinion, personally, no offense to whoever's directing the SEC, but even then, I would say it's not good.   Like, I don't want, you know, I don't want anything to do with that job. I definitely don't want that job, but at least you're not on the list because they're like, this guy hit it big folks. He really had it figured out until we got on his tail. You know?  

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The the weird the weird part is   is, like, the the triangle of the Ponzi scheme,   the the whole the whole triangle scheme, those,   pyramid schemes,   that's a natural order of things is what's fucked up about it.   Because  

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Well, that's why it works because organically, it should happen that way. Yeah. But then if you're dishonest and selfish and cruel and sociopathic   to the people under you,   then everybody has to suffer at the bottom.  

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You know? Does pyramid equal MLM,  

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or is MLM Pretty much. Okay. I mean, they they MLM tries to diverge from the original pyramid scheme so that it gives it some sense   of fairness and credibility, but in  

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the finest details, it's pretty much identical. Yeah. I think it's just a wider period. There's more levels to it and stretched wider.  

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I can see it makes sense to me that, like, if you have a customer, you give them a referral code so they can share with their friends and then make a little bit off of helping you to sell your product.   I under I I agree with the I the concept of commission because that's better than an hourly rate. They're actually making money with the company based on how much the company is making. However,   what really pisses me off about these freaking MLF   companies   that, tips me off to, oh, the product is probably not that great. If they are making you pay to join, when do you have to pay to become an employee of a company?   And 2, you have to like buy a certain amount of products   per pay. Yeah. Those two things   make no sense to me. Huge red flag. Yet I know people that  

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do it. Oh, people get into it. You know?   Could you imagine if you went to Fred Meyer Albertsons tomorrow and they're like, hey. Policies change. That little card that you use to get your discount for your receipts, actually, you're gonna have to give us $25,   and we're looking for a minimum purchase of $150 with the groceries today. Otherwise, you can't shop.  

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Oh. Or or you have all of the items   at,   retail value. But if you're member, then you can't get your, like, 30% discount.  

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Yeah. You're just getting Don't worry about having to buy a 150 worth because you can flip them. We're gonna sell them to you but you can flip them in the parking lot to the people waiting out there that can't get in for,   for whatever you wanna sell them for. You know? I,  

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did something when actually, it was 1992, the year of Ross Perot,   when I was selling See's candy bars. I forgot what Yeah. Fundraiser was for.   And I told my friends it was a special deal.   Buy 1, get 1 free,   but I was charging $2   instead of 1.  

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Smart. That's brilliant marketing. That's great marketing.  

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So they everyone got 2 bars instead of wine. Two bars for $2.  

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Yeah. How much business is it? Slightly unethical, but you gotta get the gotta get the money so you can get on the bus and go on the trip or whatever. You know? It was a learning experience.  

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But how much how much business did I lose? Oh, no. I knew that was gonna happen. Do you hear that? It's the cat fountain that went empty.  

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Yeah. I hear I might I just fixed mine today. The dog fountain was screaming at me day before yesterday, and I set it on the sink. And I finally cleared mine out today so the dogs can have fresh running water. They're so much happier with fresh running water. I'm gonna take care of it. I'm gonna mute myself. Sorry about that, guys. Alright.  

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Will the, Trump Tower ever run   dry?   We can go back to 92 again with this article where they were using the word Trump card.   Bloomberg,   March 23, 1992, which happens to be well, today is March 23rd, and now it's 2024.   Donald Trump, the name is a punch line now   associated with the worst of 1980s extravagance, egomaniac, and greed. Think he's 45   years old   in 1992.   They talk about his financial   real estate deals and such.   And then at the end of the article here,   Trump threatens to sell his property to Mooney's   if, people don't relax a little bit, I think.  

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Like, to the moonies. To the moonies. To the moonies.   That's a Korean cult of,   it's kinda like Scientology only more, like, god focused and religious.   Nice. Probably should bring up a regular definition   so that we, reverend Moon.  

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Yeah. Young Moon.   So he Trump was going   to subdivide 17 acre Palm Beach, Florida State, Mar a Lago to raise money.   And then he was ready to sell the movies. Fucking movies if you fuckers don't start acting right. The town council on April 16th that were optimistic Trump forecasting   the victory said they'll do a complete fold up. So Trump is, you know, using his personality and and, calling his bluff saying he's gonna sell to the moonies. And does he still have Mar a Lago today?  

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As far as I know. You you say you want me to read out the the snippet on Sun Myung Moon? Yes, please. Just a quick note. Okay. So the Moonies Cult also known as the here we'll get to you. The Korean Unification Church or something. So   Sun Myung Moon, born Moon Yong Myung,   was a Korean religious leader also known for his business ventures and support of conservative poll political causes. A messian   a messiah claimant, so he claimed to be a messiah. He was the founder of the Unification Church whose members considered him and his wife,   Hajjahan, to be their true parents.  

And of it, it's widely noted blessing or mass wedding ceremony. So, yeah,   the Unification Church, like, will just get people together and marry them in, like, groups of 500. You know? Like, you just you're now you're with this person, and it's very much a regular old fashioned cult. The author of the Unification Church's religious scripture, the divine principle,   he was an anti communist and advocate for Korean unification for which he was recognized by the governments of both North and South Korea.   The Tong Gil Group, South Korean Business, Shaebel, as well as other related organizations. So there you go. Now you know who, Sun Myung Moon. It's myung,   moon. Sun. I thought it was young. Sun, young moon, but it's myung.  

But the movies are big powerful. I'm sure they're still big and powerful right now today. I'm sure they have not gone away because they were substantial force   in the world.  

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Well, it's super interesting how,   any of these,   you know, they have to have enough wealth to start out, and it's almost like the whole world runs on that church of prosperity concept. And then as as as long as there's a   given amount of wealth there,   people will equate that to success and be drawn to it. And the more people are drawn to it, the more successful and wealthy it becomes, which draws more people. And then   it's super interesting how these cults are fairly easily   evolved.  

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I think it goes back to what you were saying about the pyramid scheme. We have a natural propensity   to have healthy nepotism.   The   spiritual, religious,   intimate   relationship between one another and with   whatever. It doesn't have to be a godhead. It just, you know, even if it's just communing with nature, we have these things naturally.   And so then when they can be turned slightly away from where they're supposed to be,   then there's all this   the feedback loop   turns into something people can rake up and keep as a profit or hoard or use for power.   And that's  

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the that's the way the world works. When you talk about that, it's fine.  

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Right. In fact, to me, paralleling isn't like a con, some awesome concept that somebody came up with. It's just a core part of being dishonest   on any level. If you wanna be dishonest, the thing to do is not try to hide the truth.   You know, you don't hide the truth. You make a   composite of the truth and omit the things that are most damaging to you. And people do this naturally because it's just a normal part of trying to keep secrets or hide things.   And so it's the same thing. Right? Like, if we're honestly having nepotism pyramid scheme stuff, then it's probably okay if the guy at the top is honest and all of his little cohorts are honest and nobody's being completely asshole ish selfish.   They're taking care of the people at the bottom on purpose because they know they have a lot.  

You know?   And so then there's not the crookedness that comes. But as soon as you're like, no. We could give that 10% to those really poor people at the bottom, but instead, we could also, you know, buy a chrome car, you know, or something. And you can start you gotta keep it a secret,   then it becomes   then it grows, then that blows up into a   like a like blowback, like that movie blowback, I'm sorry, where the fire shoots back in their face. Remember that movie? Is that a Backdraft?  

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Backdraft.   Backdraft.   Yeah.   Every girl was in love with a firefighter. And what was that? About 90 3? Yeah. A gap somewhere in there. Until they meet a real one. And you know, the studios have Yeah. Tell Dennis Leary came out and rescue me.  

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Irish firefighters.  

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Have you guys know that against firefighters. I love all the firefighters I've met at chill as fuck. They're not like cops or something, but it's a lifestyle like truck driving or something. You know? Like, you're not you can't just casually be in touch with a firefighter.   You know? Phone's gonna ring or he's gonna have to be at the station. The stories he's talking about, like, it's not all rescuing a cat out of a tree.   You know? One time, my buddy said to a firefighter, hey. Put out a fire for me today, and I thought we were gonna get sopped up, man. That guy tripped because he was just trying to be funny, you know, like, oh, yeah, And all of a sudden we got a lecture, you know, we were still young. And I was like, I can't believe you just did it. It was like wasn't the chief, but it wasn't just a regular fireman either. I'm like, you told the guy put the fire out for us. Are you crazy?   It's a, like, it's a fire. Somebody's house is on fire?  

Yeah. You can't joke about it. No jokes.   Scary.   But, yeah, I mean, I don't know why backdrop popped into my head, but I think it's because of the metaphor   of when you start to be selfish. There's a bag. There's a  

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one of the things that I've that has been sticking out for me, and I'm sorry. I'm not even gonna put this out there because Rose was trying to talk, and she was being polite because Sean was getting a point out. And I'm gonna stop right now, and Rose is gonna talk.  

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I wasn't really gonna say anything that great. I was just going to ask if anyone's ever been to the ride   from the old days in 1993   at Universal Studios. It was like the backdrop ride, but it wasn't really a ride. It was more like a thing you walked through.  

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Oh, yeah. No. That was cool. Did you go through it? You did. A year off.  

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Like, I knew it. Like, because I remember it. That was when I was in high school, and I I just remember from in high school, all the girls all of a sudden were in love with firefighters.   And then in 93, 94   is when that fucking 8 seconds came out, and all of a sudden, everybody was a bull rider. And I was living in Minneapolis, and I'm like, all my friends are all of a sudden acting like bull riders and shit and talking all these stupid things. I'm like, has any of you ever even touched a bull before?   Am I the only one?  

Quit acting like this,   jackasses.   But   the point from before,   and this has been a very interesting thing for me. So in modern society, everybody talks about how the the man's glorified if he's a slut. And then   the the woman is obviously,   you   know, she's the town whore, and she's looked down on.   And that's not at all the case, and that's not even historically ever been the case.   Dudes that do things like that that run around and just run around and and sleep around,   people don't trust them. Like and they'll try and hide it. And one and one of my favorite examples is Yarl Hakan,   which during the Christian conversion era,   Yarl Hakan was a was a folk hero   because he stopped,   heathens from being killed by Christians,   and none of that could happen anywhere anywhere where he had, where he could touch. You did not piss with this dude. But   he had a problem   with,   he he he never got married. He would just feign interest in girls, fuck around, and then go feign interest in another girl, fuck around. And   so they overthrew him as a Yarl, not because of, his inabilities as a Yarl, not because his country wasn't prospering,   but because he was floundering.  

And you can't do that. That's just not accepted by the people.   And even if you are the best leader,   it doesn't matter. You're doing that thing, and people are like, uh-uh.   Nope. Don't accept that. You can't be running around taking advantage of girls   and not being an honest   man. And nope. Nope. You don't get to be king. And so   that's always been the way it's been. And this is just a saying that people talk about that's just stupid. I've never met people that are like, hey, you you sleep with all the town girls and don't take care of any of them. You get all the milk and never take care of the cows.   Hey. You're awesome, bro.  

Never heard of that. Yeah. No. So it's the same concept there where you can't be acting like that. It   like that that ill   behavior   will creep up and overtake the rest of what you've got going on. You will fall as a leader   just even though you were a exceptional leader from this one moral flaw.  

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Was that explored in any of the police academy movies?  

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Yeah. 3.  

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3.  

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Yeah. There's a police academy in real life   that just happened.  

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Have you seen the story of this wild cop? It was Bobcat Goldthwait. He is a very, well developed character.  

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I remember this young lady.  

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That's ironic that she's riding a mechanical bull. She's still in the news because there was a settlement in which she's been awarded after one notice. With, like, the entire precinct?  

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Yeah. She she blew up on the Yes. She blew up on the meme circuit pretty hard. They made a lot of memes about her. I Did you did you see her, Rose?  

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I saw the memes, and I just I I remember I asked Jason and Oh, it's up to 7?   Joke.   Seven officers. Like, I it makes me feel like it's not real. Like, it's too aggressive.   George.   Engineering   article or maybe someone just paid for this to go on the news so because they wanted the memes.   Like, what if there's a really  

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No. I like your thinking a lot, Rose. That's the kind of thinking I appreciate is that someone's gonna grease the skids   because it's gonna create a lot of memes. That's a lot of magic that's gonna fly off of the media companies on that desperate. Come from me. So I on the same token,  

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I've seen where in social media, there's trends of girls   throwing out their numbers. Like, they'll go out for a weekend and, like, I just fucking got 10.   And and, like, all right. So the things that they've been projecting onto men for years, because I've, again, never known a dude who notched his belt or his bedpost or anything like that. Oh, boy. Like, if you use stuff like that. You're a jackass.   Like,   freaking   this is actually   happening.   Again, this is we see this so many times in society where they make a claim, and then we see the opposite actually happen. Bill Gates is saying that this monopoly over here is a problem.   Well, behind him, he's creating nothing but monopolies.  



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I think that that's social engineering   to   try to teach women that they could enjoy that. Because I remember, like, when I was younger, me and my friends would be like, oh,   I'm the Miranda of the Sex and the City Girls. I'm the Samantha   because I like I'm a slut. Right. I'm the carry because I'm You see what I'm saying? Writer.   But, really, there's no such thing as a happy Samantha.  

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And I'm Bridget Jones and not Anne Frank because I keep a diary.  

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I can agree with that, Alan. Could be Doug funny too.   Well, I mean, what Rose said is has a lot of weight because of the fact that that is the media is so powerful and influencing like like Ben was saying. You know? You go watch a Rocky movie, and you come out with your fist up. You know? You go watch 8 seconds, and all of a sudden you're thinking about getting a belt buckle big enough you could fry a 3 gig omelet on it. And, you know, and you have no idea what it really means that the the media has captured your emotional center. And so now you're like, oh, what if it was me? And so then it does it not just to the ladies watching Sex and the City, but also,   you know, the Jacques Douchebag,   guy,   role is also influencing men to think and act like they're going to be happy. Now I know lots of guys that definitely did fool around with lots of different women, but it's like Ben said, none of them were   ever, in my experience, outwardly proud and, like, braggadocious   and putting a mark mark on their wall somewhere.  

They might have kept track in their head. They might even brag with their very closest friend, but at the same time, they are absolutely terrified and miserable. There's times I walked into a bar with a guy and he turned white as a ghost. I said, what's the matter? He said, we gotta leave. I'm like, what's wrong? Is something wrong? He's like, I've had sex with every woman in this bar including the staff. We have to leave. Like, I can't be in this room. Like, okay. Now that's that's a realistic outcome of this kind of behavior. You wanna have a beer and a hamburger, you walk in,   you've had illicit relations with every female you're looking at, and none of them did you ever cultivate any actual relationship with. It was all just drunk and screwed around. And so now your emotional center has collapsed.  

You have to leave. You have to escape. Now the flight has kicked in and you are in the process of flying. Like, let's go. Small town. That if you try to stay, you're not gonna survive. You know? See. But that's Even if none of them confront you, you're not gonna survive. Never panned out. It's not like that dude's lauded as a hero. Like,  

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town pussy.   Yeah. No. Like, that doesn't fucking happen. That that that no dude has ever been lauded as, like, the the you fucked all the girls. Oh, yay, bro.  

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Man,   you got my wife too. That was awesome. Like, you got my wife behind the barn in 1993.  

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Like We're gonna put a statue Right. They're not gonna get invited anywhere because it's like, oh, like, you know, I like that guy, but he fucked my wife in junior high or something like that. So I just don't feel comfortable with him being there.  

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It's   some it's some nonsense stuff,   and,   it's never actually been true. I don't understand how that became like this thing that got said,   and it's it's never held as true.   And   even in modern times, it's not held as true. A 100 years ago, it wasn't held as true. The dudes who ran around weren't cool dudes. On the opposite page,   a respectable man,   you need a strong wife. And it when you have a strong wife,   you are viewed entirely differently   as a person. And and they talk about this in politics all the time.   You can't even fucking run for president unless you have a wife. And that wife has to also   be somebody that is able to be viewed by the public and viewed as the country's mother because that's the whole thing that brings that respectability.  

Like, when it's been, nobody thinks about if I was running around tagging, like, 83 women at fucking Flattoberfest,   and nobody would fucking respect me. I wouldn't be cool. I wouldn't even get invited back. But Ben and Christie,   people respect that.   They know my wife is a respectable person and that she respects me because I am a good man and act good. Right. And I if if I didn't, she would bail the fuck out.   Like, that's that's a whole, like, check and balance system. When when when when a man's married, women automatically   know that there's things that   another woman can love him and has that kinda in line, and they can be around him. He's kinda more safe now.  



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Wait. What?   I didn't get that last part.  

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That women when a man's married, women find,   that man more safe.   Because,   like, if a dude's single and he's, like, 40, what kind of weird shits that guy got going on? You know? And that's the way women's minds work. They're like, why is it no woman will put up with him? He's an attractive man. He's got money. He's   got bar. Why is it no woman will stick around?   Like, is he fucking do fucked up shit? Does he got some really weird shit going on behind closed doors? It's untrustworthy   in their mind. When men don't become trustworthy until they're in that position as a powerful man, you don't have a wife behind you that is with you. You're not trustworthy.  

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They say all the good ones are taken, so then they start wanting the good ones   that are taken.  

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Well, yeah, that's the next level where that level of comfort transforms into lust or consideration   for unseemly things.   You know?   That that becomes derivative of it in people who are unstable or have a   a desire to be out of line. You know?   Like, because we all have friends that are married,   and you recognize that they're attractive as a couple and might even recognize that they're attractive as individuals, but you're not having   thoughts or imaginings and certainly not taking actions that trying to invite somebody's wife to dinner or any of the shit that you would have to do to start the process   to fuck things up, you know.  



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Well, Ben, I totally agree with you that having an awesome, cool, intelligent,   fun, funny   wife gives the guy a ton of credibility.   But conversely,   if a guy has a shitty, annoying,   stupid,   lame wife,   I think it has the other  

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effect. A 100%.  

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But not just stupid. Confusing.  

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Although use although, usually, you still are friends with that dude, you're just like, yeah. We can't really hang out with you anymore. You just kinda quit hanging out with them because you're like, yeah, dude. But you're cool and all, but, like, I can't handle your old lady, man, and you you won't get that shit under control.  

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But would they just out of curiosity, is that something that men will typically share with each other, or you just quietly stop hanging out, but never Specifically,  

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I've got a friend and his his girlfriend,   she would sit there and tell me about how great a blow job she would get. And I found that horrifyingly inappropriate.   And then she would tell me that,   I should try it so I know what because then I could be jealous of Jonah and freaking all this because then he's getting these   insane great blowjobs every day and all this weird. And I'm like and and I would come over and I and and I would say, dude, that's really bad.   You do you know that she says these kind of things? Like, yeah. But you're never gonna let it happen, so it's cool. I'm like, no,   it's just not cool.  

Like and I eventually just quit going over to his house entirely. I'm like, dude, it's it's it's not comfortable for me. It's not fun anymore.   I feel harassed. Like, it's weird, and it's weird that you let it happen. I understand that you feel the safety of the loyalty of my friendship.   But   now you're abusing that, letting her act like a crazy bitch. And then, of course, she cheated on him and their whole thing fell apart.   You know? Like, oh, gee. I'm so shocked. She ended up leaving him for another dude. Like, wow.   So   no. It it it makes it so you lose a friend, and we've all had that. All dudes have had that friend you just quit hanging out with, not because you don't like him, but because his old lady's cycle. You're like, nah. Can't hang out with you no more, bro.  



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That sounds like a cartoonish   situation from a movie, like a Quentin Tarantino movie.   It really does. And the wife is just super slutty, and it's just like a character. And it's like, wow. This person has no self awareness.  

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None. Or worse. They're completely self aware, and they like it.  

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Right. Okay. Yes. Even worse.  

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Yes.  

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Oh, no. You're right. I mean, I don't think that's I'm dumb. No. That's not a lack of self awareness. That's just being gross and trash. No. But the but the the the description you made is is accurate in accurate in other situations, Rose, where a woman or a man could  

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be inappropriate   or their vibe can be off and they don't have self awareness and everyone else is like,   why is, like, why is that guy always sit right next to the other guy's wife? Doesn't he know that that's makes everybody feel weird? And they're just, like, oblivious to it. They don't get it. Like, you're too friendly, too comfortable.   Like,   that's possible too. Now taking it to the point where you're describing oral sex. Okay. This this if you're not aware that you're doing this, then you need to call your counselor and get an appointment right away. You know? Yeah. That's when it gets cartoonish.   If anyone else what Ben was saying, and I would think that they're exaggerating, but I don't think Ben's exaggerating. I think he's telling the truth, unfortunately.  



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I know.  

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Even my dad So I just my dad was here last week, and we went to go drop him off. My main truck burnt down, and I still 5 months later, I'm waiting on the check. The whole thing's finally cleared up because I had to hire my own appraiser and then hire a referee   to go between my dude and their dude   and all this bullshit. So now it's finally done. I still ain't haven't gotten a fucking check. And then my backup vehicle broke, and then my backup backup vehicle was breaking. My dad's like   yeah. And Brian's vehicle broke because Brian Oh, no. Ryan on. His transmission dropped. Like, literally, he was coming back from doing stuff and,   that week and all of a sudden the transmission,   he was coming up the hill from getting supplies,   and   it just gave out. And, what he did was definitely overheat the transmission, which anybody that doesn't know how an automatic transmission works.  

So the the the gist of it is is,   it takes and it throws   the transmission fluid   into a plate in this torque converter.   And then depending on how it how well it pushes that plate,   that's how it transfers the energy   into the transmission   from the engine into the transmission.   So when that fluid gets hot,   it loses its viscosity   and becomes thinner,   and it's not able to push and it gets you lose that friction. And so it's not able to push that plate on the into the torque converter,   and then it's not able to transfer that engine power into the transmission.   And that's what happened,   and it's and that's the first sign of your transmission taking a shit on you.  

No. I haven't heard from.   Go ahead, Rose. I'm sorry. Automotive Oh, John of episode 198.  

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I remember him, and I would love I would love for him to come back on the show sometime. But, anyway.  

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Oh, hi, Jason. He was he was gonna come on with us, and we were gonna have a little,   so I we we kinda wanted to put together a terrain   theory   germ theory type   panel that's has, like, an actual open   discussion   about the merits of each.   And John was who we were gonna have, Rose. That's why he was bringing that up.  

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We discussed the merits of riding sandworms instead of,   trucks,   or they got you by the nose?  

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Well,   I think  

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Yeah. So my dad was saying only me because 4 vehicles in a row went out that week.   And he's like, only you.   Like, that kind of shit's just me.   You can do a transmission   flush, and we could do that. Emily. Hey, Emily.   I can't make it tomorrow. I had 4 fucking vehicles shit out the last week. Brian's transmission dropped and all my vehicle shit. I was just telling that story.   Oh my god. I'm glad freaking I I meant to call you yesterday.   All my vehicles died. Like,   fuck. And my dad's like, yeah. Only you. Like, you know, like, yeah. It's it's the weird if it's some fucking Rod Serling shit, then that I'm involved. I'm there.  

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I think there is such a thing as car luck, and some people have it and some people don't. And I hate to say it, Ben, but I think that you have transportation   bad luck, not just bad car luck.   We also But I have it too, and that's why I what was that? Did Christy just say something?   We also have really good luck. It balances out. Right. Right. So it's like you'll take the bad car luck with the good luck that you do get. Yeah. I totally get I have bad car luck too, but I'm sure I'm lucky in other ways. And so I'll just keep things the way they are. I don't wanna change my luck in any way. Everybody who lives in the part of the world that Ben and Christie live in has more trouble with cars.  

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Yeah.  

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Yeah. I don't I just feel like in order to avoid having car troubles, I just, like,   don't even want to,   get a, like, a new car with any of, like, the wheelchair stuff on it because it's just so it would just be so depressing if, like, I went through all this trouble to get it and then, like, 2 It's you're in a very different situation. People have no idea.  

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People just like to to get a different ramp   and all the stuff that goes, what kind of ramp, whether how's the the the vehicle has to be modified, are they gonna cut the frame and drop the floor or raise the ceiling?   The hand controls, the seat, the actual seat, all this stuff, especially if you're gonna drive, I understand. So, I mean, people with  

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a band once for $4,000   and it turns out there was nothing wrong with the ramp. The problem was that the ramp has a sensor on it that tells the ramp that the door is open and that sense wasn't working. So what I started to do is just manually open the door, and I cut the cables out after buying a new sensor for, like, $12 afterwards. Yeah. So Yeah. The limit switches of sensors are everything. Nothing.   They just screw you. And if you want any help or need a question, you have to go to, like, a special place that has, like, a license to answer your questions,   unless you, like, are really cool with another,   mechanic who then has to call in their friend of theirs who has the license  

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you can go to,   AutoZone or   O'Reilly or any of those places, and you can borrow their little, machine and just plug it in under your steering wheel and clear the codes out.  

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Or you or you could do that   vehicle itself, but you can't do that for the durable medical equipment and the mobility equipment that has been,  

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modified into the vehicle aftermarket. You know? You were talking about a monopoly, that's a monopoly,   that whole industry.  

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Of equipment. And,   so to to get the the computer that runs the ramp, yeah, you'd have to have what Rose said. You'd have to have somebody that's got an inside line on 1.   You know?  

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John Deere just got sued for that shit too. Yep. Or I'm sure it's sued quite a few times because Yeah. So you can at least work on your own tractors? Yeah. If you can work on your own tractor, you can't even work on a tractor anymore. We love you, Emily.   Tell Laura we're super sorry. All of our trucks are shit out. We're we're   asked out, and I'm waiting on a check   a large check from insurance   that's supposedly in the mail. I'm holding my breath.  

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I'm glad you have a good van, though, Rose. It sounds like you have something that works for you, and that's important. So yeah. No. No. I don't wanna get there because I don't wanna deal with these problems anymore. So I just transferred to us today.   Oh, yes. So you just transfer. Yeah. No. If you can, yeah, if you can go without a van altogether, that's hella cool  

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for sure. I will for as long as I can. Absolutely.   Yeah. And then one day, I will meet again  

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with them. I've been going to Ross, and they have these huge charcuterie   boards. They're popular, and they're, like, really long, and it always makes me think of a transfer board. And I look on the shelf. I'm like, why is there a transfer board? It's like, oh, it's not. It's somebody's huge it's a huge cutting board. It's not a transfer board. Too thick. Charcuterie  

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board.  

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Charcuterie is good.   So you actually went to the,   to the backdraft thing in, California in the nineties? Like, the walk through or whatever it was?  

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Yeah. I it was so long ago. I don't remember. I just remember I used to love Universal Studios. Get to make out with Kurt Russell?   Ew.   He's 12 years old.   Kurt Russell is the is the guy who was in the thing. Right? Yeah. I think it well, he's a main character from a backdraft.  

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My aunt probably date with Kurt Russell when they went to the same high school here in Walla Walla, and she Oh, wow. Did Viking.   He was he played on the Russell went to high school in Walla Walla? Yeah. He played on the the the baseball,   baseball team,   the M's.   Yeah.   She went on one date, and she was like, I don't like him. And then he got famous and   and her   all made fun of her for not marrying him.   So, yeah, small world.  

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That's funny in that role of dogs. Yeah.   Robog, he says, charcuterie   is just lunchables for adult stoners,   and the cheeses. I was like, oh, cheese and meat and crackers.   I'll   do the cheese and crackers. I love cheese and crackers.  

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It's a lot of,   topics on the table now. We could go any any direction.  

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Charcuterie of topic. I I want you to play that commercial you played before the intro, and I wanna hear it the takes on this. Oh, okay. That's one of the fucking most crazy things I've ever seen. Yeah. Let me let me just bring that back. Let me find it here. Bring that back.   That needs to discuss with Rose.  

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We need her we need her take on it. Yeah. Yeah. I wanna discuss all the topics that you wanna discuss, and I've been trying not to derail the conversation to the random things that she's doing. We want you to do that, though. Railing. You need to take over, grab the goddamn wheel, and just take off.   Okay. So going for I can't remember any of the cool things I have thought of in my life before this moment, but going forward, it's just popped into my head  

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and it's not related to the conversation. I won't be embarrassed to just say it at an appropriate time. Yeah. You can even just wave your arms and say, stop. Stop. Stop. And we'll stop, and then you can just butt blur it out. Then you'd be like, this is a non sequitur,  

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but  

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Wait. It's not like  

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Oh, Alan's bringing us a video here. We're gonna we're gonna watch a Mark. It's got all it's pulling up. 2024, we watch commercials on purpose as a group during of of Saturday night livestream. That's the world we're living in. Yeah. I'll just present the basic things ever. Without context  

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just to see   what's going on here. Let me know if you hear the sound.  

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This is a to come back.  

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Mhmm.  

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No. I'm right here. I'm just doing a piece of toast.  

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You just So this is for March 21st,  

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CBS News, New York. Let me see if you hear Down syndrome day. Yep. Do you guys want anybody to see if we can't change the challenging   Are you hearing it there?  

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Yeah. We got audio. Okay.  

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Perceptions and assumptions.  

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Bartender, you assume that I cannot drink a margarita,   So you don't serve me a margarita?   I don't drink a margarita.   But hey. If all your assumptions become reality,   then you see that I can drink a margarita.   How do you get it? So I drink margarita.   Assume that I could hit harder.   Assume that I can.   So maybe I will.  

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That commercial is from the Canadian Down Syndrome Society. The call to end assumptions is also happening here in New York City.  

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So I'll pause it there.  

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The call to end assumptions,   he needs to pronounce it better so people understand that he didn't say the culted in assumptions.  

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Well,  

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so out of Canada.  

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So World Down Syndrome Day. So we're supposed to give the Down Syndrome folks their margaritas. That's the message I got on the That that 21st  

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I got was is we need to start letting mentally handicapped people drink.  

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I've seen really I've seen really,   fun videos   of people giving their family members with Down syndrome, like tequila and different kinds of hard alcohol, depending of how much Down syndrome   they have,   corresponds to how appropriate   is   and how   it is. If they're low on the down syndrome spectrum,   and they can kind of express   a vibe that tells you that it's that they have free will to get fucked up, then it's okay. But if they're to the point of, like, mental retardation   that they can't   understand what it means to be drunk, then maybe it's you're not allowed to get them drunk.  

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I don't know. I'm I I Well, I mean, they're if they're 21, legally, they can drink, and I do understand that point, you know, because because you're disabled in any ways, but especially developmentally disabled people.   They get judged and assume the things that people treat them like children or act like they don't have the status of an adult when oftentimes they do. But it's still not a clear cut and dry line that, you know,  

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a down syndrome girl walks into a bar. Like, they don't really go to the bar. And if somebody comes into your bar and then you serve them alcohol   and they're clearly mentally handicapped when you serve them and then they hurt themselves,   you are definitely losing your bar. You are definitely getting the   holy shit suit out of you. The NCAA   might actually come and have you drawn and quartered   on video.  

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Right?   Fucking Freida.  

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I think the point of that commercial is that   Down syndrome people are not the same kind of mentally retarded that will get your bar license removed all the time. And the point of the commercial was don't assume I can't drink because I can.   So just do do that research on their retarded friends and find out if they're a candidate. Mentally handicapped.  

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Right. But that's a different kind of mentally handicapped from the the, say, the soldier who got blown up and has a serious,   permanent head injury.  

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Yeah. Because a lot of brain injury. A lot of disabilities actually like, I think I'm one of them. Like, I used to be able to drink, but now I think that if I was really retarded and just started drinking a lot, I could die because of my   medical problems. A lot of people with mental disabilities   also have co occurring   physical   disabilities. That's right. It is a medical issue of whether they're aware   of what their body can handle. So I think that, like, the girl in that commercial,   he is all that and she knows   how much alcohol she can drink and that she can handle it and she's allowed.  

But but really  

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Fuck, though. Well, that's me. If I started giving that little if I started giving that little retard a drink, I'd punch you in your fucking head.  

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Okay. Alright. But then you can't but then you have to punch people in the head for giving me a drink too, because it's just as dangerous. Well, you have ounce syndrome. You are not mentally  

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handicapped.   You're a little you're a little loopy. There's no doubt that you're not mentally handicapped.  

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Okay.  

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This is where it seems to be   in poor taste to bring up,   Down syndrome day   and then start your little segment about Down syndrome day with   a woman   who displays that, but then say she can drink. She can also fight in the ring, and you can, you know, punch her in the face. You can abuse her. You can do all these things to her. And then the guy goes into what he's actually talking about, which is a new story that they're opening a new cafe.   So it has nothing to do with,   you know, boxing or athletics or going to a bar. It's about going to a cafe   because the people   with different abilities   want to work   because they're typically not employed.  

But the story is that they want to work, they want to leave the home, they want to have social interactions,   and that includes having a job.   So this is what the new story is   actually announcing   that New York has opened a new cafe.   So I can continue playing the video and see if they talk about the cafe at all,   or if they just say a cafe open. But we're gonna talk about all these other issues.   Let's see if he enunciates   enunciates  

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further here. Before before you play it, may I just say that before this,   I was watching   for some reason, I just felt like watching Mike Tyson knockouts,   like, the best of the best Mike Tyson knockouts. And I was thinking to myself,   like, am I retarded or or autistic? Because I just feel like it would be fun to get knocked out by him. It would just be something to add to my YouTube channel. Like, if I if I needed  

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if I was gonna I just I don't know why, but I I would like No. I think that's pretty normal. There's a lot of people in that category that, like, you know, if if if someone said, hey. Do you wanna buy box Mike Tyson on TV live? I'd say, yeah. I wanna do it. I would do it. I would do it. And I hope I don't die and I hope I can keep some of my teeth, but I'll do it because I mean, what a enormous   boon to your reputation to be able to tell people like, oh, remember? Yeah. That was me in 2025.   You know, Jake Paul didn't show up. I got it in there.  

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On   ITV.   I   got. I have my car to help me, man. But  

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See, Ben Ben doesn't wanna do it, apparently. You're not gonna box Mike Tyson, Ben? Are you scared? No.  

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No. No. I think Yes. I'm scared of boxing Mike Tyson.  

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Do. Are you fucking nuts?   The man fucking hits like a mac truck.  

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Like, I would have instant   brain damage. I enjoy the way my brain functions.  

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You're probably right. I I it is true. Rule of Black says I I wouldn't survive,   and I probably wouldn't. You're right if he actually Well, Mike Tyson wouldn't hit any female, I don't think. Not in boxing ring anymore. That's what I'm saying. That's why it's, like, a weird retrata thing, like No. You're the boxing ring anymore.  

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Is is there a Well, everybody remembers Robin Givens' claim. She got hit, and that's what we all said. Like, no. Obviously, you did not get hit, Robin. Obviously, you did not get hit.  

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Well, I I don't think he would kill me if he punched me in the stomach or something.  

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You gotta you need to watch some of these recent clips of human anatomy. I have your back. Your back would  

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explode like a mortal combat. So but Fuck you, man. Would you fight him or not, Jim? Would you get in there, you know of course, they're gonna let you wear the headgear and a mouthpiece, you know. It's not just gonna be bare knuckle boxing. Oh, yeah. I'm I'm mister Footwork.   Felt like a butterfly, sting like a bee. I mean, I'm not sure I would have a strategy other than to get my hands up and hold them there.   You know, I'm not gonna take I'm not gonna swing at Mike Tyson. Don't misunderstand me. I'm not gonna, like, I I'm gonna get him. I you know? I'm just gonna try to withstand   one blow to the best of my ability so I could take it. You know? I've been to Pink Floyd Live and I got punched in the head by Mike Tyson. You know? Or if I could just have the opportunity in my bed post.  



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If I could just, like, drill with him, like a little sparring drill,  

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and he could not Rose, you're in a unique position to make this work because of the fact that you use wheelchairs.   So, like, if you get 2 power wheelchairs into a boxing ring and have him sit in 1 and you in the other, now we're getting somewhere. Now you've evened up the stakes.   And, now Mike has to deal with something he's not used to. And so then, you know, you have a better exhibition that way, I think.  

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The problem with people sitting down,   finding each other is that your knees are in the way. So you have to, like, get that angle in order to reach. So you really do need to get Yeah. So really you should joust. Able body. The only care thing is jousting with the legs. No. She's right. If you've ever seen, you know, if you've never seen people in wheelchairs trying to fight, it is one of the most hilarious things. Because they're  

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so angry, but they just keep moving their wheelchairs to try to get that 45 degree angle where the where the arm will reach across   to reach the other person's face or their chest. It's so rare. It's like one there's only one angle that you can both sit in a chair and hit each other from. And so they both and, of course, the other one knows it too. So they move and they move. You know? It's it's funny. You know? I haven't seen people in motors fight that much, but that sounds awesome.   Well, if you go if you require yourself in wheelchair sports, you'll see a lot more of that kind of stuff. £1700  

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of force.  

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Okay. I take back everything I said, folks. Fucking pounds.   I've I've,   gained more information recently because of Ben Balderson. I take back what I said earlier. He'll just save lives then. How many lives do you think he saved in the hypothetical  

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universe?  

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1700   motherfucking   pounds landing on your face.   Like,   jeez, that's a car.  

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Like, what?   Like,   Jesus.  

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That is brilliant in the chat. Wheelchair jousting, that levels the playing field. There's what I'm saying. I would just need a seat belt and a back on my saddle. Oh, yeah. Make sure I'm really You do manual   and power wheelchair. Did you get a broomstick pony though, like, in the  

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No. She would just have to put, like, a little wooden thing on the side where her wheels are. So every time when the little spokes went by, like, cook up, cook up, cook up. So it sounded like a horse going.  

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I'll come do sound effects and bang coconuts together.   Yay.   Style. But, yeah, you know So then we're not £1500.  

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That is just  

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crazy. Are we not permitting seatbelts on the wheelchair jousting then? No straps or anything?   Is the point to knock over the wheelchair or knock the person out of the wheelchair?  

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Well, that's what I to knock the person out just like a real No. It in actual jousting, if you knocked them out of their wheel off their horse, you got the horse. So I mean, then the then the losers are like crawling away like  

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all their friends just come pick them up, man. You don't make them crawl. You just go get them. You say, we're gonna get we'll buy that wheelchair back from you. Don't be an asshole. You don't need to   or whatever. No. Like, write your name on it or nothing. We're gonna buy it back next week. Don't modify the seating. We get to we're keeping that cushion or whatever. You know? Talking mech battles.  

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You know, the flat,   the flat escalator at the airport,   it's not going up. It's just going flat. So I fell once getting off of that,   and I've never been getting up again so quickly.   Like I was like, I saw my legs up in my air and it was almost like, back up again.   Again.   So many people walked by me. I was like, whoop whoop. Like, raised up so quickly back into my chair. It, like, didn't even happen.  

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Awesome. Jim shared this, bear podcast. Barrier about this stat is it says his average punch was £14100.   How the fuck is the average punch 1400?   Fuck you.   That's the scary part. Like, I get it. You're one that you were able to perfect throw the haymaker   with 1700,   but you're just average punch. You're just like all the punches are gonna be Mike just pushing them out there. £1400,  

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£1400,   £1500,   £1200,   £1400.   Well, if anybody that played Mike Tyson's punch out already knows that because it was so hard to get out of the first round because every punch just knocks you out.  

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Yeah.   So, Jim, with this Bear Paw Cafe, is there any risk of getting punched in the face and not receiving your drink? Oh, yeah. The pair the pair pot cafe.  

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That's a good question.  

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Dude, this is totally a furry thing. They're taking those they're taking those handicap people and molesting them with giving them furry handjobs through a gloerial.   It's happening. I've seen it.  

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Yeah. I was just What does this mean here, mech battles?   What is m e c h mech Yeah. You know, like, the the  

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Mechanical robots. Yeah. A little mechanical robots that joust and fight each other. Only it's people in wheelchairs.  

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So someone else   remotely   is controlling the wheelchairs. The people are sitting in that is  

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Then you could then you could concentrate   on controlling the jousting.  

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No. I'd say that's a different sport. So the more advanced people, they have to they have to manage their wheelchair and the joust. But then it's like a team sport where Jim gets to have a remote control that drives the wheelchair, and then you have to focus on your jousting position. 2 different categories of wheelchair jousting. The second one's more advanced. Like, you're gonna definitely get some better action.   Oh, yeah. No. It's gonna be people are gonna love the second one the most. That's gonna it's gonna draw the fans. It's more There's gonna be more skill in the first one, especially if you're using your manual wheelchair, and you gotta, like, hold your   your, what do they call that thing? It's the the the jouster. There's a name for that thing. Yeah. Yeah.  



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They said to hold your horses.  

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But, yeah, you gotta hold that and wheel, and then you gotta get, like, one good push going. You know, you're gonna   electric wheel chairs. Don't be ridiculous. No. No. You can do manual ones. There's guys who could do it both, you know. But it's more funny if it's electric  

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robots that disabled people are stuck on top of, and while the robots   remotely control Awesome. Tether   on it. So it's a mixture of the mech battle, disabled jousting Yeah. So disabled person is actually kinda hidden inside of the machine.  

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Yeah.   I I just I like this idea.  

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It's like it's like it's like the   the first step to Gundams   is what it is. This is the first step to Gundams.  

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And honestly, you know, it's all fun and games until you're jousting in electric wheelchair and you get that perfect hit right in the middle of the sternum and it knocks a disabled person down and they're unconscious or they're bleeding, and then all of the fun goes out of it immediately.   Because it's not, you know, like, even if an able-bodied person gets hurt, it's like, oh, shit. But if someone who's already   permanently disabled gets injured, then it's gonna freak everybody out. So Rose is right. It's better to have them hidden inside of the robots and jousting from a safe position.   More entertaining and safer.  



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No. I thought it was more entertaining if they're on top of it trying to hang on for a dear life.  

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No. That's how old that's the other thing you should know about any people that have permanent disability.   They're already so permanently injured and damaged that they don't really have the concern that you're imagining   because they've already suffered something that you can't imagine.   So, like, what's gonna happen? I'm gonna break my neck? That's what my friend used to say to me. Like, what I already did that. So what what difference does it make? You know? 3 already fell on me and broke my neck. So That's how stupid my how stupid my place, but I'm already fucked up. So why not? That's right. I already like, I'm already  

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severely hurt, so why not take the risk? But then Ben, when I see that I should still care about my brain.  

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Yeah. I don't wanna I don't want brain damage. I I do like the way my brain   like, you could do a lot of things. And, like, when I when I busted my arm and I flew off that motorcycle into that tree, I thought I was I thought they they thought they were gonna take off my left arm. I thought I was gonna be without a left arm. I there's been times I thought I wasn't gonna walk,   and those were bad. But   brain damage? No. There ain't no coming back.   I don't want that.   Just go ahead and put me down.  

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Yeah. I don't wanna be slow.  

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I wanna stay sharp. All kidding aside, it's really messed up if somebody, gets a   a head injury or something happens to where it inhibits their function that, you know, their cognitive function, it's really hard.   Or just being able to swallow   your Yeah. Food.  

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It's such a big deal, man. We take so much for granted. Put a grain on your family and you're not even really there. It's not you anymore.  

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Like, fuck that. Yeah. That's that's the problem is that you know that you're not like you used to be, but you're actually not like you used to be either. You have some awareness of it.   But you can't rise back up to the function that you used to be at and so that it makes it exactly what Ben said. It's this huge permanent downer. You know?  

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You could see it in the eyes if someone has, like, a certain kind of brain damage where their eyes are just, like, kind of wide, and they're just you could just see. And, like, it's like their face is set a certain way, and you know who has it ever so slightly. And I just know   and it must be so, so, so, so slight. Mark Sargent?   No. Gary Busey.  

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No. I'm  

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like, you kinda look like Gary Busey?  

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No. I was just being mean. You know, I'm just I'm just I just was making jokes with Mark Sargent. I don't know what he just says. Ragged Mark Sargent.  

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It's just a joke. If Mark ever sees this, I'm just kidding, man. It's all good.   No. That but you're completely right, Rose. Sorry for using your lead up for a good punch line, but you're so I'm totally guaranteed. If you see, you can see he's not okay.   Yeah.  

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At some point, something happened. He had a stroke or whatever, and he's never fully recovered. You know? Yeah. I think he did actually have a brain injury for sure. But if he did have a brain injury, I would know that he had one   that was undiagnosed  

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as I said. By his facial appearance.   Oh, no. Not pet not pet court with that.  

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Why is this guy  

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is not helping, Gary.   See, that's another way you know he has a head injury or a disability because he didn't refuse to wear this haircut.  

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What? Yeah. Beauty.  

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Yes. That's on purpose. That's his way. Right? He's a pet judge.  

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Determine   Now this is a real show. Right, Alan? Yeah. Gary Busey, pet judge. Oh, this isn't this isn't just like a spoofy thing. No. This is an actual played straight shot, Gary Busey. What?  

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Gary Busey is a judge. I watched every episode. What the fuck?  

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It's amazing. What? Millions   and millions of people. That's who been that's why we can't afford to get hit in the head by Mike Tyson because most of us are already retarded.  

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On a serious note, but slightly related,  

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I would Like, yeah, Gary Busey definitely has a well thought out grasp of the legal system.  

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Well, the pet the pet legal system even, a real fine niche for Gary to work in. You know? What's the right thing to do for this pet situation?  

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There's, this woman   named Wendy Williams   who was   diagnosed with pre fun prefrontal   dementia just like Bruce Willis.   Now Bruce Willis, his dementia, his family is obviously keeping his symptoms kinda private, and, like, every now and then, you'll see, like, a video of him being like,   but   they're being very respectful of his privacy.   But this girl, Wendy Williams, like, the courts got ahold of her, and she was put under, like, a guardianship.   And they made a freaking   documentary, and they're totally   exploiting her and her dementia and just showing her   it just it's really it like, you guys yeah. Look look up a video   of her, and her eyes are Gary Busey ing, but times a million.  

And   she clearly is, like,   struggling so much that she needs 247 care,   but they're just, like, wanting all of her struggles out.   What like like, she can't control what she says. So they're airing. They're saying all this  

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Yeah. She has had years of cocaine   abuse. What? Like, Dave and Linda Williams.  

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Brian said she collapsed on stage, a couple years ago too. Exactly. And everyone was saying this because she was, like, an MK Ultra. I would say all the little montages of, like, oh, this person's MK Ultra because they did this, but it turns out   and and they're saying it's caused by alcohol, but who knows? It could be probably caused by  

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the Well, I mean, lots of hardcore alcohol and drug abuse will definitely increase your chances of having a brain aneurysm, a stroke, etcetera, etcetera. So  

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Brian said she touched her head right before she collapsed too, so it's definitely something in her brain.   She, like,   she, like, seized out   almost. She didn't, like, start shaking, but she just did this wobble backwards and reached her hand up to her head and then just dropped.   Just fucking right there.  

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There were a lot of videos like that shared on social media where people were, like, kinda touching their head, kinda looking up and, like, they're seeing something and spinning around and losing balance and falling over.  

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Do you remember all of those videos? Oh, yeah. Ahead of me.  

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Yeah. Someone over their shoulder.  

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I don't get that. And then that and then that series of videos where it said where they were saying that people would, like it looked like they were looking at something right before that they would seize out and shit. Like, they would stare at something,   and then they would fucking  

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It was right when that movie box,   Bird Box came out.  

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Oh, yeah.  

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People were thinking it was invisible   angels of death or something   in real  

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life.   Birdbox  

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and then birdbox  

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sorry. Nothing's ever gonna beat fucking,   spontaneous combustion.   Like, until they bring that back, shit's just not weird as it was in the eighties.   Yeah. Stuff.  

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I haven't seen any movies really since maybe, like, when the Bohemian Rhapsody movie came out. And shortly in 2019, I saw 5 minutes of a movie, and I just wanna throw up. But Jason   showed me the trailer to the new remake or sequel to Beetlejuice.   Oh. I do wanna see that in fill in theaters. Like, my nostalgia program was like,   they did it, but I was scared to watch it. I'm like, oh, they're gonna fuck it up. They're gonna fuck it up. I don't want it. And when I looked at it, I looked up. I was like, oh my gosh. It's a movie that I actually wanna see in a theater.  

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They can't do it worse than they did Dune. I tell you that.  

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They have the they have 3 of they have Michael Keaton as Beetlejuice, Winona Ryder's in it, and then the stepmom's in it. And then, obviously, the dad isn't in it because he's a convicted  

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sex offender. Oh, he is?  

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Yes. No. I'm so sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Oh, yeah. The the guy from, he was in Beetlejuice, and he was also in Ferris Wheelers Day off as the principal. He's been   caught redundantly with bad stuff going on, and then I think he finally actually, got in real trouble. They kinda tried to go soft on him, but, you know, like, he had kiddie porn on his computer. Right. He just wouldn't give it up. He was on that Danny Masterson page.  

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Oh. It's just like,   yeah.  

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Yeah. He kinda has that look. It's so common. Yeah. Jeffrey Jones.   Oh, f No. I like Dune.   You know, it sounds like, Jim likes Dune. Apparently, Ben didn't like Dune.   Did you go to the theater and watch it, Ben? Don't even fucking try saying you liked it. Don't even say it. I did. I enjoyed both movies. I mean, the thing is your house, Sean. I will drive to your house. Let me make my point before we should get to threatening people now. Don't don't threaten me. Of course, I'd love to have you come to Boise. If that's what you're gonna do I will drive to your house.  

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There  

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is threat of beard removal depending on what Sounds like you're coming to Boise, Christy. Better bring some of them extra products. The way they gotta pay that shipping in the mail.  

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I don't think that's right.  

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No. Okay. So you gotta hear my point. The caveat, Ben, is that the movies were made for people that have already read and studied the books extensively enough to have a firm knowledge of the show. So then it's visually and aesthetically pleasing.   But if you're just watching it for the first time trying to understand   the Frank Herbert's work, then it's dog shit because you're not there's no dialogue. The whole fucking book is really deep political intrigue,   dialogue.   And so if you don't understand that the way that they're presenting it is allowing that to be subtle, but you know about it because you've been studying doom for 4 or 5 years, then it's good. But otherwise, no. It's good. It doesn't portray.  

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So so  

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I wasn't I wasn't arguing with that. I was,   referring to Jason Momoa. I didn't think that was right with the Oh, no. No. I I assume that that's what you're talking about. Jason Momoa. That  

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he you don't think that he looks like my, you know, like one of my aunties?  

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The actor from Baywatch when he was swimming, did he remove all of his body hair, and now he's known for his beard? It kinda gets into a weird situation where you kinda get typecast as the beard guy.   So   Zach Galpinakis has that too.  

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I completely agree with what you're saying because I also agree that visually, you just get some things, and I can fill it the rest in with my mind because you can't take a book and and   it would take for tonight's movies to do the first book justice.   I so I agree with what you're saying. Now   they made Cheney completely against Paul, which completely fucked up that whole story line.   You know, as opposed to the Cheney who   told Paul that he needed to marry the emperor's daughter in order to stabilize   the empire   and bring things into the fold and that she supported that, but also   that woman was never allowed to bear his child.  

Like, that that was a very specific,  

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mentality that she carried and pushed. And he was like, no. No. I don't want Oh, yeah. They made they made her, like, way more effeminate and kind of an insecure woman role when that's not  

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in the book at all. She's a Right. Well, then and then because of it, she rejects Paul.   Like,   there's a rejection of Paul, and it makes it look like Paul's just this fuckhead that's just like this man, like, I'll marry who I want. You'll still be my bitch. And she's and then she takes a walk. That's not how the story plays out.   The the fact that they did not have the sister   born   before the the revolution.   So the sister's not the one who kills Baron Harkonnen.   And then the entire thing where the the   Baron Harkonen is her grandfather.   So when she kills him, he immediately is able to take revenge through the epigenetic   memories, which are opened up because she, as a in utero,   took the waters of life. You have fucking what completely   killed that whole   storyline,   which lays out the the,   fall of the Atreides empire.  

That's what that's what they're doing.  

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They can the whatever whatever's coming next has nothing to do with Frank Herbert with all the changes they've made. That's absolutely true.   They've chunked it up. There's no way to redeem you know, if they're gonna continue to try to use his plot elements, it's gonna be completely disparate   from the way that he had it organized.   And once you've done that, you're not honoring his work anymore.  

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You know? Sure. And and some of that might have had to do with budgetary   stuff because the the film industry, it's a combination of art and business, and there's the art of getting the best scenes and the best actors for the lowest amount of money,   and then part of that too with this movie, the credits go on forever and ever and ever, and everybody who worked in the movie is in the credits.   And some of it was piece mailed out, so they were working on it in different places.   And if Dennis is he's the director, but he's not producer of it, and there's other people involved, and he didn't finally edit it. And they they shot a whole lot more, and the movie was already getting to be too long, so they cut a lot of it out. Warner Brothers might go with the Lord of the Rings route and re rerelease the film in theaters   with deleted scenes included for an extended cut. It could be like a a Zach Snyder sort of cut. There's all different versions of it being It honestly almost feels like they're doing, like remember when Hillary Clinton tried to push 1984  

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as, like,   something we should aspire to? Mhmm. Like, it almost feels like they're doing that because they rewrote the whole   all the parts where the Atreides empire is gonna fall because   they are the bad guys in this, that Paul is the bad guy, fucking all that gets taken away. Like like, it it's literally like it's getting rewritten and made Paul made, you know, all the lessons out of what Paul did are removed because they're making Paul a good guy. And it reminds me of when Hillary Clinton sat there and, like,   just like in 1984.  



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We got it going, guys. 1984 is where they had the the that office that just rewrote history   moving forward. As the days passed, they would rewrite the historical events of the past.   We see that in our real world today with Wikipedia   being the official keeper of history, and and you go and you watch the the feedback and talk back pages where people are arguing back and forth   over   sources to claim that it's historical.   And those who have printing presses can publish   an article   for the sole purpose of quoting it on Wikipedia   to then change the Wikipedia   narrative in the story of the article, which is interlinked to other articles.  

Right. So what we're saying now with   with the author   authoritarial   in   the author's intent. I'm trying to say that big word there, and it's not rolling off my tongue. Frank Herbert   had an idea. He had a vision of the story. He wrote it out. He made his bible where it was like, this is what happens. This is where we're going with the story. These are the events on the timeline.   And now   with   Warner Brothers working on this movie to finesse it and to get it to work for all of the regions,   knowing   that there's the   the Islamicist   Muslim aspect of the desert people and the the Fremen   and the political intrigue  

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having to then play to a global audience. Down is is Islamicists.   There's most of the Hebrews according to the actual   so it wouldn't be, you know, but I mean, that they went to Islam. That that's just interesting.   I think they're supposed to be Jews. Warner Brothers wanted   the Islamic audience. They wanted to play in terms of a worm? Look. Nose wanted to ride the fucking worms.   See? It's Jew. I knew it. Well, there's also worms in Beetlejuice.  

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So if we see Lydia Deets riding the Beetlejuice worm,   that would be a cool call up to  

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doom. Those worms were   absolutely terrifying to me as a child.   I used to have nightmares about them.  

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Oh, man.   The worms are the best. They were, like, they were the hero. They were, like, the heroes of the story when you're a kid. They're, like, crush them assholes.   Like, when when, even in the even in the sci fi series from when I was a young adult in the nineties,   Like, when, when Stilgar goes when Stilgar finally gets pissed off and he's like, let them fish   worms.   You know? Like, you're like,   yes.  

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Well, no. Maybe it wasn't the worms that scared me so much as the idea of opening the door to your house and it just being this wasteland   Yes. From a different dimension.  

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I'm not a desert dweller.   Fuck the desert.  

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Your   mountain  

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No. I I have a problem with people that intentionally live in the desert for extended periods of time, especially if it's not a beautiful desert. Like, I mean, you know, if you dig Arizona or Texas or something, okay.   But, like, Tri Cities, Washington,   No. Like, what are you doing? Why do you think they put the Hanford out there to hide the atom bomb and stuff? It's because there's nothing. It's just terrible. Only thing that's out there is the Columbia River, and you know they're destroying that with the government installations all around it. It's just bad. We call them Flatlanders.  

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And the secretary of state hated,   the governor of Washington,   so that's why they put it out there because he was like, oh, okay. I didn't realize there was political intrigue too. Of course. Yeah. Yeah.  

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But, yeah, I mean, it's just like, well, you what are you doing?   Why would you do it out to yourselves?  

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Police Academy.  

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Police Academy. Police Academy?   Oh, that that that's that movie for the movies from the freaking, eighties nineties.  

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That that was a great great comedy. Some of the best Yeah.   Time.   Yeah. Agree. Black guy that makes cool noises.  

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The the dude from from, he's on, Spaceballs. The dude that does the weed foul shit.   Yeah. Yeah. They're cold in the desert. Like  

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Is that Yeah.   There's like a worm inside of a worm. That's kinda terrifying.  

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That's interesting. F Gardner f Gardner says that Beetlejuice is like a machine elf sort of character,   an evil jester type of character with powers. That is interesting. Yeah. That makes sense.  

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Beetlejuice is a Nephilim.   Good point.  

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Nephilim.  

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Oh, I said it wrong. Nephilu. A Nephilu.  

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And that ritual at the end where they're bringing them back to life and their   hands fall off.   Rose, it's really affected you. Oh, I love something in my   whole life so much. It really did affect me. But I remember thinking that Winona Ryder was so much older than she really was. Like, she was a big kid.  

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Yeah. We first saw the movie. Oh, she was so big at Heathers too. Oh, it's such a crazy Heathers. It was such a hot commodity back back then. She was in all the fucking movies.   Yes. Do you guys have Heathers? I've got to use their hands as well. Is that the one where they were committing suicide?   Yes. Yes. Her and Christian Slater. Yeah. That was such a fucked up movie, dude, and I feel like I'm going through that same cycle right now. Yeah. Dark is in dark comedy. Besides, like, popular and cool. Well, it's got that song. Teenage suicide,  

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don't do it. Teenage suicide,   you blew it.  

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Others, right? Yeah. Let's do that.  

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Probably gonna get the stream flagged for singing that out loud. Sorry, Jim. Unaliving.  

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It's super weird, the things that that are allowed in,   in media. Like, the one that always gets me is that,   that,  

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all the all the kids with the pumped up kicks better run, better run, run. Yeah. That's a like that's that's about school shootings and shootings. At least the movie was a joke song because they're trying to make light or point, you know, point attention to that kind of stuff. Whereas that song is actually just straight out  

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Glorifying you. Yeah. Just like, hey. Look out. I'm coming. Like, you know all those kids that are sitting there all angry and fucking about, you know, because they don't have the cool clothes and all that. And they're sitting there, and the other kids are teasing them, and they're thinking kinda crazy thoughts anyways because you're a teenager.  

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You know, that's just like, wow. What's another song like that? I hate Mondays? Shit.  

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Is that a song by Garfield?  

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No. It's by the Boomtown Rats, which is,   Bob Geldof.   My my brain was getting mixed up, but Bob Geldof see, to me, those things are probably seeded. You know? They probably   intentionally either encourage people to write them or allow them in because they have a   firearms narrative or whatever you wanna call it. And so it made me think of that other older song, I don't like Mondays is the same thing as a girl who went to school and, opened fire and they asked why'd you do it? And that was her answer in the song was she didn't like Mondays. You know?  

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So Wow.  

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Garcey. Is like engineering at its finest where you're just, like, injecting an idea   that is not part of nature at all. It's just like an idea. Like, the idea of Monday isn't even real. So then Right.   Mondays is totally real. So it's just in her mind that she just wanted to get relevancy   to that fake thing.  

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Alright. They've got you working off of, a completely   fabricated,   reality, but you're not aware of it. You believe in Monday, and then you believe you don't like it. Now you're 2 layers from reality, and you haven't even realized it.   For sure. See, we're we're Wait. What did Garfield I mean, pardon me, Jim? What did Garfield have to do with it now? Garfield is this Monday. Mondays.   Oh, duh. I can't believe I didn't put that together. Oh my gosh.  

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The   the   thing that I the departure I have with this is,   with the whole mentality   of of art that all arts allowed to exist because all expressions of everything need to happen. So that way you can   feel things and whatnot.   Where I have a departure is is that's fine. But when that feeling happens,   then I should also be allowed to because you just, like, did pedophilic art, be allowed to go smack your head into a tree until until you quit shaking   because that's how that made me feel.   And so I felt like I needed to do that. So when you're putting out that sort of art,   you there shouldn't be this curtailing to that. And   because all these movies where,   like, you look in the eighties where you had, like, Brooke Shields and Playboy,   and then you had her in Blue Lagoon, and you had all this. You had Tracy Lourdes in porn,   super pedophilic stuff.  

If those people were actually punished, we said, yep. You can go ahead and make that art, but then the we won't protect you from the mob.  

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Like, go ahead and do it, but, you know, you're Well, that's how the yeah. That's how they used to keep pornography and stuff out of towns. The guy would come around, dealing nudie pictures and get caught, and the men of the town would just go go string him up. They'd write him off once and tell him, hey. Don't come back. And if you come back, you might be dead. You know? That's the way it goes. The curtailing of that second part is where the problem comes in.  

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When when the men were not allowed to act like men anymore and actually growing up,   like, on my on my mom's side,   it wasn't in my direct bloodline, but one of the in law grandpas was touching the the younger girls. And the women hid it from the men in the family because they didn't want the men in the family to do anything.   That's wrong.   That's super wrong. And I've never forgiven them for that. And I've always remembered that that you guys will hide shit like that to keep men from being men. We should have taken that dude out back and beat him fucking bloody and beat him to where he couldn't hardly move and said, you look at another little girl wrong, and we'll come back and we'll do fucking worse.   You know, we'll leave you in a wheelchair handicap where you can't touch them kids, but still alive, buddy. We'll just make you sit there in pain forever.  

And   then that kind of thing stops.   Like, I I don't understand where this mentality of the bad guy is the one who takes care of the person doing that. How that person is doing the bad  

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thing. The the telomeres that grow in your brain   from getting stomped out become stronger than your urge and your consideration of your, perverted behavior. That's just people don't like that. But, you know, if you get stomped out, you think really hard about taking the same course of action again. And it doesn't have to be as bad as be disrespecting kids. It could just be disrespecting people in a group. You find out the hard way. I had an old biker tell me a story of, he disrespected this old cowboy in the bar in Pendleton, Oregon.   And, he said the old man wasn't even rude, but it hit him so hard in the face that it almost knocked him out cold. And then he politely asked him one more time that he had to move down a stool because the old man was a cowboy with status, and he was a real cowboy. And he was there with a whole group of people, and he had asked my friend, move down a seat so I have room at the bar. And he was disrespectful to him. And he told him again, and he didn't listen. And he sucked him so hard in the face. He said he almost blacked out, and then he moved down, you know, and gave the old man room. You know? And that's that. Because then you think I don't wanna get socks hard in the face again. That sucked. I almost got knocked out in public. I guess I gotta get this guy's seat. You know?  



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That's the what it Frank what is it? Frank Frazetta that said that that,   the barbarian will always be   more polite than the civilized man because   the civilized man doesn't have to worry about taking it taking one to the face.  

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Yeah. And I I told people that for years that the idea to have open carry of everything available again would be fine with me because immediately we'd be in a polite society again right now, a real one. Not a fake polite society, a real one. Because if I say, hey, you disrespect me, now we have to have a gunfight, but I prefer to go outside so I'll meet you out there, then everything changes right now, you know.   You know? And it may be that a guy like me ends up dead immediately from having too much confidence or, picking the wrong fight, but that's the society that we would live in. You know? A real   where everything has actual consequences, that we're not insulated by whatever this,   pseudo falsehood bullshit we live with now is is something different than that. You know? Is that because of insurances  

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and insurance payouts?  

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Which   which let me tell you about that one.  

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I'd say insurance is is probably more like   an enormous shadowy evidence of the problem. Whatever the problem is, I think is philosophical.   But the fact that insurance exists and everyone participates in it is huge evidence of the problem.   Yeah. Like, we shouldn't believe that you can give money to somebody to protect you from the future. Now, actually, it does work in a way, You know? Ben's situation's gonna be resolved because he has insurance.   And so it's a third party willing to cover the spot that no one else would cover, but the boon that they gained from that gives them too much power.   They collect premiums for days. They reject most claims and get away with it, and so now they're just stacking up money for nothing. Well, we shouldn't accept that. Yeah. I haven't had a claim since, like, 1995  

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or some shit. Right.  

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And you're still having to struggle to make to hold their feet to the fire and make them pay because their policy is not to pay claims, it's to collect premiums. You know? Yeah. I've I've been worst in the medical where you need it the most. It's the worst.  

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Almost 30 years of paying premiums, and I don't fucking take nothing. The first time I go to get something, they they fight me tooth and fucking nail. Right. Oh, you've been without a truck for a long time now? 5 months.   Yeah. And they acted like I was, like, fucking like, I was they they put me through an investigation at the beginning of it. And because I was in Vegas when the, you know, when this whole shenanigans   of series of shenanigans started,   like, did you were you out there gambling and lost a bunch of money? Like, yeah. Because that's gonna help me get rid of my farm truck, which makes my money.  

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That would totally help. And you your name is on a t shirt.   Just show them just send them t shirts.  

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I know. That's overfest t shirt. I am a giant flyer. I wasn't there gambling. I was there at an event, you asshole.  

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Speaking about science, I was educating people.  

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Yeah.  

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Well, I mean, the insurance company is not smart enough to know that if Ben was gonna do something crooked, it wouldn't be something stupid, like blow all his money trying to get lucky in Vegas and then catch his truck on fire. That's really basic bitch kind of crime to commit. I mean, come on.  

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Yeah. Especially if they understood how excited I was about that truck.   Like, the truck I got that I replaced it with was fucking awesome. And people don't even know that one of the special things about that IDI engine,   that IDI engine is basically the engine when Rudolph Diesel said that any oil can is a diesel engine will run off any oil. The IDI engine, because it doesn't have the computerization,   is that engine.   And you can literally, the truck came with 2 tanks,   and you could take,   your old motor oil,   plant, vegetable oil, whatever, run it through a filter,   throw it in that back tank, start the engine on diesel. Once the engine was running, switch tanks, it'd run off any damn thing. You didn't even need diesel fuel. You just needed some kinda oil. Oil from the from the restaurant that's gonna throw it away. You just can't fill it up. Yeah. And and you could throw anything in that truck, and and it just go.  

And for a for   a a prepper situation where you assume the system's going down, that truck is worth its weight in gold.  

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We need to collect them even if we have to rebuild them.  

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Oh, yeah. It's a great idea.  

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We're not Skye, Tony.   Fail, Tony. I hope you're feeling better after your accident, brother. You're about to go through these insurance fucking things too.  

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Well, yeah, and what rules said there in the comments is true that, for one thing, the insurance companies nowadays, they take all the money and leverage it into other things. So then it that's what I mean. It makes them too powerful because now they're not even insurance men anymore. Now they're just transglobal,  

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power models. Corporations.  

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And, right. And but so then,   it makes it easier, like   you know, when I was a professional wheelchair technician, the worst part was dealing with Medicare, Medicaid, and all of the professional insurance companies just watch the state and federal insurance,   and they move as close as they can to that policy. Now they can't actually keep that policy because the government can be insolvent   and still somehow maintain itself. So they have to stay on their lie on the side of solvency,   but the idea that they wanna   deny every single claim and make you fight to prove what the in   we used to say Medicare, you know, the prior authorization does not guarantee payment.  

Okay? That was our inside the   the office nomenclature. Right? What does that mean? You call them on the phone. You say, I got a serious problem. I need you to authorize me to order equipment and supply it to this person, and they say, we'll do it. We're gonna fax you authorization. They send you a piece of paper. It says you're authorized. So you go give them the equipment, and you send them the bill, and they say, we're not paying the bill. Like, what? You authorize them the equipment. You know? And then you go through 9 months of trying to, twist doctor's arms and, and and make the paperwork right, and then they'll pay you 68, maybe 80 percent of the bill pulling IT to to get their money from them. You know? And,   so it's just and it's like that everywhere. It's to me, it's worse than the medical because people   really   their quality of life and their their actual life, it becomes at risk,   literally.  

And there there's nobody that you can say, hey. Treat you know, help me treat this person like a human being. Because as a technician, you wanna be   the stop gap. I I used to give shit away 1,000 of dollars. I give away whole wheelchairs and those shit all the time. I just tell them, don't tell anybody. I'm gonna replace your casters. I got them on the truck. Don't tell anybody. You know? I just put them on there. You gotta you gotta wheel around. You can't just sit there. You can't lay in bed. You get a sore. You know? And but there's no   I've never seen one insurance company that actually did right by their people in the medical field in any way. They just.  

If you're if you're listening to this and you have insurance issues of any kind when they send you a denial that says they're not willing to pay, go through their paperwork line by line and figure out how you can go right back and say, nope, you have to pay. And just keep doing that over and over and over again. Don't accept their offer of nothing.   That's right. You don't accept the denial. You say, what more information do you need? Call them on the phone 5 times a week and just hammer them. And eventually, they'll say, oh, this person's too much of a pain in the ass, and they'll fucking pay.   That's what they have to do. Personally,  

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my insurance tried to give me $35100   for my and that truck's just the the IDI is,   7 point 3 liter diesel from the late eighties to the mid nineties.   But I   I crawled and I fought with them, yelled at them, screamed at them, told them they were fucking fraud. They were committing fraud, you know, the whole nine. I got them up to 9,000 before I hired a dude who got it up to the, you know, more   proper level.  

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Right. But, yeah, people people don't know because the thing is we're used to going through a bureaucratic process, and if you get told no, usually it means no. And in life as adult, as mature adult,   if I say, Ben, can you loan me $10,000? And you say, Sean, I can't. That's it. I don't beg or ask or try to negotiate with you. You either can or you can't. And so with the insurance company, that's not true. They're gonna send you a denial automatically.   The agent isn't even thinking about it. It's the automatic process of an insurance business to say, nope. We're not gonna pay you even though they know that you're signed up in a position that they are supposed to pay you. The first thing they do is automatically kick you out, a notice that says, no. We can't pay this. But it's not true. That's just their system. You have to work they call it working the denials. You just have to work the denial over and over again until they pay.  

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Is this advice for Metallica?  

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Well, in Metallica's case, I look at the to get to get to get to get to get to get  

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to get off of the TV, get off of the Internet. They They need to go onto the property they they bought and just stay there.   Maybe just use a can and a string to talk to their girlfriend and stay off of the TV screens and everything. I'd appreciate it. Metallica's lost his did they stem from communicable  

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visitors? Head underwater,  

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you know, for a while? They could be trapped under eyes, I agree, Ben. It would be you know?  

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So in   4 years ago, March 2020,   Metallica had planned some tours,   and they had gone through Lloyd's of London, which is not an insurance company, but they are a marketplace for insurances and reassurances and package deals and things.   Right. Some syndicates and and such.   But now   with whether or not what happened in 2020 was due to a communicable   disease   or not is sort of up for interpretation   and lots of other bands, not just Metallica, but Metallica was quoted, I think. Taylor Swift was also quoted because she was going on the biggest tour probably around that time.   Now with 20 with 4 years later and some some more information and maybe more misinformation about what was going on during that period of time,   be interesting to see if any of these pay out or   settle or just keep kicking the   can down the road.  



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Well, Metallica as a business is in is in big danger if they're involved with this kind of thing because   the insurance companies are so much more powerful that people imagine that they're gonna have a really hard time not taking it in the in the hiney on this one. You know? I don't know. Yeah. You know, Metallica's gotta have  

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I guess, it's pretty awesome lawyers. Napster out of existence.   Yeah. You know?  

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Like, fucking, they scoop Napster out of existence. They've gotta have Can't they just give them can't they just give Lloyds of London or the insurance company Lars? Like, look,   nobody likes this guy. He's not a very good drummer. He kinda talks with a lisp. We'll just give you Lars. You do whatever you want with him. We don't care. You can render him into fat, whatever you wanna do. Do something with Lars, and then they should be free and clear. And there's a 1,000 guys waiting to take his spot.   What do you think, Rose? Do you like Metallica or not?  



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I like the music. I can't help it. I just grew up with it.   Me too. No. I love Metallica. I'm just talking mad shit about Metallica. The the people though, like, I remember growing up, I was really pissed about the Napster thing.   And but now I feel like I get it. But but, anyway, they they seemed really lame when they had that, like, reality show where they were getting, like, therapy together.  

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I never watched any episodes.   I remember it. I never watched any episodes. Just knowing that it happened really bothers me. It's really cringey.  

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Jason told me that what in the beginning, like, when I was too young to remember, but Jason said in the beginning, they said, we'll never sell out, and we'll never make a stupid music video. They would never they said they would never put a video on MTV.  

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Right. And then they did would never happen.  

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So they literally did what they said they'd never do. But people can change other things.  

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Exactly. Metallica did all the things they said they'd never do. I wouldn't be able to,  

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lift weights without Orion  

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or for You're here. Yeah. That's a good point. That's a great instrumental ballad by Metallica, Orion. So what's your is that your favorite Metallica song then, Orion?  

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Uh-huh.  

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Now has anyone asked you what your favorite Christian rock band is, Rose?  

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No. No one has ever asked me that question. I don't have a favorite Christian rock band, sadly. Oh,  

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there's There's  

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a there's a answer.   Around.  

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There's a there's a Christian rock band metal band that has the word August in it that someone Red.  

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August burns red? Yeah. It's it's okay to not have a favorite Christian band yet. Just means you haven't listened to enough Christian music yet. Right.  

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We stayed at that RV Parker Wallow Off with K LOVE on in the bathroom, and it was just crushing me, man,  

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Emotionally.  

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So they had, like, a imagine. That sounded like I can only imagine.  

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In the style of Cardi B only it's for Jesus.   And I'm just like, woah, woah, hold on.   You have a philosophical   contradiction in your soul, and you need to resolve that before you get on the mic. Like, you can't wrap in the style   of these modern female rappers   and have it be for Jesus.   This is not possible.   The vibe of that first thing   does not translate over into any version of branch of Christianity, but that's not true because they're the protestants are shoving that shit on K LOVE. You're trying to fucking put your deodorant on after a shower, and it's right there in your ear. You can't adjust the volume. You can't turn it off.  

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Also like Call of Cthulhu   a lot. Yeah. Death  

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and Seek and Destroy is an old favorite. Yeah. See, she likes a old good Metallica.  

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I'd probably  

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my delight. When her first one was out of the master of puppets album, I was I was approving of that at least.  

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Well, I mean, to me, that's the end of Metallica. Cliff Burton died in a bus accident. Metallica died along with Cliff Burton. And after that, they've been using this necromancy   to bring the corpse of Metallica back to life, shove it out into the public sphere with worse and worse music every single decade. Yeah. Yeah.  

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Or or on the same page.  

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I like Megadeath   better   than Metallica, but I will certainly not   not like Metallica because I like Megadeth better.  

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And Well, maybe most people don't know Dave Mustaine was in Metallica originally. Loves Iron Maiden. That's what I'm saying. And that she love she loves Manowar and Iron Maiden. These are her musical redeeming qualities.  

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Okay. So if you listen to a song called   why   by Dave,   by Megadeth,   he's   lifting   the riff   of Call of Cthulhu   because he wrote that and he felt he never got credit for it. And the whole song is it, like, him being so pissed off about being kicked out of the band of cast lyrics.   I never heard that song. But it will be the last thing you ever see. Face your last enemy.   Like, I   all of the clue.   It's so funny. Like, you have to look up that song because I feel like nobody knows about that song. It's called Yeah. Megadeth y.   Why no. When? When?  

Okay. P n. I always hit that wrong.   Yeah. Like, let me see if I can find a link for you.   When?   And,   you know how, like, in, like, beginnings of acting classes, like, the first assignment, the teacher just wants to, like, test you and see, like, how comfortable you are on stage. So they're just like, your first assignment is to get up and do anything for 15 minutes.   I did that song really, really, really dramatically.   Awesome.   Was just the words.  

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Yeah. That's awesome. Oh, man. Is that on video anywhere? We wanna see the video. Oh, no. But don't tempt me. I might have to do a week. Oh, we'll do it. We can we will start a GoFundMe, and you can do it on this stream. I don't yeah. I could do it for free. I don't need money to   to do that. It makes it more fun if we got 4 or $500   so that the performance gets that edge to it, the professional. It's a professional performance at that point. Right. Like, for example, I could use that money to use prosthetics and a wig to look like Exactly. We could dress you up like Dave Mustaine.  

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Yeah. That would be amazing.   Dressed as Ross Perot?  

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I   for $500,   I know exactly how to do   prosthetics.  

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Well, see, the thing is you could do Dave Mustaine. Have it so you rip the Dave Mustaine costume off and underneath is Ross Pearl. It's Ross Pearl. Yes. Yeah. It turns out Dave Mustaine was warning you or, the whole time about what Metallica was gonna do and how that was gonna fuck up later on. And then it turns out it was Ross Pro, and he was always right about everything. That too. That's right. It was still Ross Pro warning us.  

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Ross Perot knew about Meganeth and Metallica and what was gonna happen.  

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He's like the Federal Reserve,   NAFTA,   and Metallica.   Metallica. You don't want part of any of these things.  

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Oh my gosh. I just picked up the lyrics, and it is so funny. I can't believe I did that. That's awesome. Memorize that.   But, yeah, he's just so he's being   I used to, like, think that he was just, you know, being really immature and upset, but I didn't understand why, because I feel like he made a better band   because he's better guitarist.  

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It's so yeah. Only if you're a metalhead.   Only if you're a metalhead, do you consider Megadeth   a equal band to Metallica?   If you're a nonmetalhead,   who the fuck's mega death?  

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That's right.   That's what it is. It's the notoriety and the fame and the money that comes from   being one of the biggest, most famous bands, not just in the world, but of all time. You know, as much as I hate to say Metallica is one of the biggest bands of all time, they absolutely are. It's undeniable no matter what bias a person wants to have. And Dave sees that world. They don't know him now. Permanently   outside of it and stuck doing his own thing that's big in his it's it's still the top of his niche. He's still one of the greatest thrash metal, you know, arguably the greatest thrash metal songwriter of all time. But that's not like, on par with Beyonce   and Michael Jackson   and all the other  

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Right. People that are in that category. He saw himself as so close to that, but then he missed. You know? So that's the Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I I I totally get the how a lot of people in that position, they have, like they wanna be the best. They wanna be on top, and they want that recognition.   But I feel like if I was his friend, I'd be like, dude. Like, you're in way better situation. Like, you don't wanna be, like, sell out on top. And you've made enough money and you have way more respect among people in the community. Like, dudes who actually play the guitar, like, you should care more about what they think.  

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Yeah. Oh, I think I think God did it to protect Dave.   Because I think Dave had had the fame that that that, Metallica has, he might,   it might have gone poorly for him somehow because he's such a caustic individual.  

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And now he's a born again Christian.  

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Hear hear. Hallelujah.  

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Remember when he did rock the vote?  

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Yep. I went  

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with Ted Nugent. I feel like he was doing that, like, just he was just part of his, like, public scene and doing promotion for himself when he did that, but I wonder if he is, like,   anti government now.  

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I'm sure he is.  

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Because he's not a man. Vaccinated  

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what?  

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What's that? Anti government now.  

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I wonder Now? How about When did that start, man?   That is happening. A couple streams.  

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Yeah.  

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Okay. So in 2021,   there was an article that says David Mustaine is anti mask and possibly anti vaxxed. So that means he is, because he must have said something.   Isn't it interesting that both Dave Mustaine   and Bruce Dickinson and I think one other person had throat cancer?  

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Yeah. Well, you know, Bruce Dickinson also fucking somehow   sang the concert, flew the plane. I think he carried the luggage,   gave the hand jobs, like, the whole night.   Obviously, he had,   like, £8 of cocaine   going down his nasal cavity and dripping in down his throat.  

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So, you know, the cancer was there. It was just numb.   Yeah.  

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I don't think he was that much of a partier except maybe, like, early on, but they are such a touring machine. How could they be drug addicts and too much partying?  

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No. But just doing the overwork thing will make you just as sick because you don't  

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rest. You have to rest your body. Fucking 60 concerts in fucking   80 con or 20 countries in 12 days and fly the plane yourself   and fucking run around on the stage like you're on cocaine   and not be on cocaine.  

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Oh my gosh. I've never even thought of it like that, Ben.   You're blowing my mind tonight, and my whole life perception is changing of Bruce Dickinson. Like, I'd look at him as, like, this literal metal   god, and now you're opening my eyes to the fact that he's just another guy who's overworked and having to be  

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a to make himself push himself beyond his own limit. If there's a if there's, like, a nitro version of cocaine,   that's what he's on. Like, cocaine   if if there was cocaine for cocaine,   that's what he is thinking.  

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So jrb wants to know what's gonna happen with the eclipse. Do you have input on what's coming up with this eclipse, Rose?   Oh, yeah. We are affiliated with a guy who's famous for filming the moon, so we wanna know. Yeah. And I don't know if you've seen his recent solar,  

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photos, but he pictures. Yeah. Yeah. And there's a new picture that he sent me today that I don't know if people realize this, but the orange color is him adding that. It's false.   He's doing all of this photography in black and white so that he gets the most amount of detail possible.   So my hope is that he keeps filming every single day until the eclipse to get as,   skilled as possible because it's much harder than filming the moon.   And so on the day of the eclipse, I, my hope is that he's able to get enough video that he can animate it in a time lapse. Wow. All of those little tiny I don't know what to call them, so I'll just say filaments or hairs. All the little hairs, they move around.   And a lot of people say that those hairs   are very indicative   of, like, an electromagnetic   movement. Like if you look at little tiny magnet shards   and how they like make the poles   and then it goes around like that,   That's what the they're saying the movement reminds them of. So it would be great for to get something from him   in video   that day. So I don't know how long the eclipse will be. It reminds me of? Yeah.  



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Nematodes.  

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Oh. Yeah. Yeah. I  

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see all those people crying about they find these little hair worms in their,   kombuchas,   and it's just nematodes.   And that's the the that's what that reminds me of is nematodes.  

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Polymath gonna put a picture that nematodes on the screen so people can see.   Yeah. Please put the nematodes up. It's one of my favorite words. I'm glad that we're using the word nematode a lot more often in general because it's one of my favorite words.  

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But, anyway, I think that on that day, I don't think anything special will happen except it's gonna be something cool to look at, And it's just a marker of time in the sky clock.   And possibly,   there may be some kind of social engineering   news items, but   I think that   if there was, like, the ruling elite in control of the social engineering paying attention to us, they wouldn't give us   the, satisfaction   of an event   or something related around the time of the eclipse because they wouldn't want us to feel like we were right. So it would probably be, like, a couple months later   that anything crazy Yeah.  



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And and on one of their weird secret occult calendar dates that they use that aren't consistent either. You know? Like, they like certain dates like 911   or whatever. You know? But Yeah. So if the eclipse doesn't land on their little secret high holiday, then they can't perform their magic on that day and make it work. So then we're gonna go past that, and then maybe it's 4 days later,  

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you know, then something blows up or whatever. You know? Like, when we look at the numerology of something, we're like, aw, shucks. No 911s. No no special numbers here. We don't know what what if we converted it to a base 60 or a base 6 or some other base, and then it can be Exactly the problem with   numerology. Right? Or what if it we look at a date and there's meaningless, but if it was converted to a Julian calendar, it's 911 or 322 or something like that. So it's it's It reminds me of that, there was an old TV show that was  

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set or a movie. It's called Saturday 14th. You know? It's after Oh, yeah. Kind of a comedy spooky thing. It's a fun one.   Yeah.  

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Make it for Friday 13th. It's so great if you guys have never seen it. It's really good. I haven't watched it for years. I mean, 13th. I get it now. Oh, and also with the eclipse, if anybody  

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is able to get binoculars   at the time, if you're in an area where the eclipse is at enough of totality that the sky darkens,   you might be able to see comet 12p   next to the sun.   So the best way to view a comet is not with a telescope,   but with your naked eye or ideally binocular. So Devil horns  

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to the  

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sky. Right. It's called the devil comet.   And so people should get a binoculars if they can, because it's worth it to look at something cool like that.  

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Yeah. Those are miniature sandworms.  

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Why are we demonizing comets? Why can't we anglecut,   angelize them, Angle cut. Oh, no. It's all good. Turn them into English names that we can pronounce instead of giving them numbers. Allowed to be Anglo anymore. Angel comments. You get one demon comment. Everybody's like, oh, all the comments are demon comments.  

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You're you're just a damn Christian is all you are, Marcus.   Like, oh, they made one TV show. It's Sabrina the Teenage win. It's an attached Christianity.  

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Never mind that we have 83 of our own dedicated TV stations.  

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But symbolically, a claim to be negative.   And so they wouldn't be angelic. They would be demonic.   The social engineers want to want to give that vibe   about the comets because its real name is 12p Ponds Brooks.   But then only recently, all of a sudden, now they're calling it the devil comet because apparently it exploded in one area, and so it's got these flares coming off of it that look like horns.  

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Oh, Illuminati confirmed.  

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Good morning. Why Pons Brooks?  

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Because those are the names of the people that discovered it. Usually, if you hear 2 names, it's because there's a people who discovered it. It's usually 2 people because now the only people discovering this shit are not, like,   scopes, because they're the first that are gonna see it. And then there's 2 people working there that day, then they both get it.  

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No, Meg. It does not matter if you drink them. They're part of the natural biome   of the,   kombucha.   If you,   back in the day, before there was chemtrails,   before there was jets, before any of those things,   if you took just water alone   and put rainwater   in a in a   dark area that was warm,   you could watch the fermentation that would happen, and a whole little biome of creatures appears.   And then, and then bigger creatures appear and start feeding off the little creatures,   and this whole thing happens. And nematodes   are part of that.  

And even in, like, your garden, there's beneficial nematodes. There's,   detrimental nematodes.   It's just part of a whole system, and and I got and, you know, they taste good. Bacteria and fungi taste delicious.   You know, chocolate doesn't even taste good till it go ahead, Jim. Is that spontaneous  

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generation?  

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Yeah. I would say that it's spontaneous   generation. This is one of those arguments.   So when, like, say you're doing fermentation   and   you don't want to,   add yeast, so you just do a natural fermentation,   well, they call it wild yeast. Like, this yeast is just like fucking hanging out in the air just waiting or something, and it just fucking   but to me,   the yeast is actually the wild yeast is actually inside the fruit or whatever it is that you're fermenting   that inside of you, the decomposition of the seeds of death are already inside inside of you. And whether it chooses an anaerobic path, which is gonna be,   more of   a fermentation   or you choose, or that's an anaerobic or you choose an aerobic path, which is more prone to molds   and things,   that   seed of death is there in order to transform you into the next phase   of life.  

And then I think that that is a spontaneous   generation. I don't think that that is   wild yeast. I if I take it, I go to do a good fermentation and I clean all the fruit and I put it in there and I keep all the oxygen out and I blow it out through the thing,   it's still that you still comes in. It's still there. I think it's inside the fruit.   I think spontaneous generation is the answer.  

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That's cool.   It's weird too. Those nematodes.  

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Don't forget to eat your nematodes.  

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I love those. You know, chocolate's not even sweet until after it's been eaten back by bacteria, and there's a bunch of little bacteria poops on it.   Bacteria poop is sweet. I  

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mean, numbish. Oh my gosh. I wanted to ask you this, Ben.   So I noticed that I could be   all day, like, let's say I've been wearing the sweater all day. And then   at   a certain time of night, like 2 AM, 3 AM,   I   feel itchy. And I know it's not the sweater because I wasn't feeling itchy before. And it made me remember that someone said that, like, the parasite lunar cycle   is a certain way and that they're at they wake up from their nap at, like, the witching hours, and they are pooping and peeing in your body. And so I was wondering if they're pooping and peeing in my body is making me itch.  

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Yeah.   Yeah. Like, you see, like, scaly leg. The real great example of this is scaly leg mites on chickens,   and their their their scales will actually go like this and lift away from their legs.   And you're like, why is it doing that? That's because there's so much poop and mite poop underneath the scale that it's building up, pushing the fucking scale away. That's just a whole big wad of mite poop.  

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Poop leverage.  

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Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty horrible. And they get, yeah, get underneath your skin and poop, and your body's like, it don't like that.  

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I don't j r b, I don't think it's the sweater because I was wearing the sweater before, and it wasn't itching.  

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Rose, don't take the bait. He's trolling you. Come on now. Don't take the bait.  

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I can't.  

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But okay. There's so much information right now out there about parasites. Everybody's talking about it. There's a million ways to get rid of them.   So this How about if you don't want to? What?  

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I I I think the people on these parasite cleanses are fucking cult are crackhead cultists.   Like like all the rest of them. Like, literally,   if I look at my garden, okay,   the pH balance in your garden   is a a function of your bacterial   to your, fungal load. And so depending on the ratio of your bacteria to your fungi,   your pH is gonna be set at at a at a certain range. Now if your pH gets out of that range,   then   the things that we like to consider food   and eat tends to grow in a 5.5   to 6.5   pH. So here's another cult for everybody is the the base cult. We're like, oh, cancer doesn't grow in acid.   Either does anything else. There's one enzyme, like, there's, like, one thing in the whole world that grows in a base environment.  

Humans don't. None of the things in your body do. None of it.   So, yeah, Mason got cancer don't grow in a base environment either do you. You'll die too. It's it's fucking dumb. So the   typical   food plants that we consider food is a 5.5 to 6 0.5,   6.8,   something like that.   Weeds tend to then grow in a more acidic soil   or a more base soil. And so once they've used up the thing in that soil that's causing it to be more acidic,   then the soil falls more toward vapes. And what's and then it'll move back into that food range. So while we consider that a harmful or a   parasitic,   plant,   what it's actually doing then is is taking and putting the system back into balance, and that parasite's only there because your system's so horribly out of balance that it's able to live. And if you had your balance your your, garden pH   a 6, those things would live there.  



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So is it a bad thing that I take my chlorophyll pills?   Because they say that   it says that they say that chlorophyll makes you makes you antiseptic   and that you can't cancer can't grow in that  

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chlorella?   Yeah.  

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Yeah. That that that that that's super that's some super snake oil shit, Rose.   It's some super oil shit.  

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But fortune said to take it.  

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Yeah. It's some super snake oil shit. So I was talking about   Instead of just talking, because right now we're talking about health,   we'll go ahead and we'll look some of this up and, you know,  

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so the theory   okay. The theory behind chlorella is that, it absorbs   the chlorophyll will capture toxins in your body. Okay? So then the main company that was the highest in stuff,   I think it was out of Japan. It's a algae from under the ocean, and they claim that you have to micromill   the   chlorella   plant so that it's most absorbent.   And,   my my buddy   used to take it too. Now it is a good source of iron if you don't wanna take iron supplements and your doctor thinks you gotta be less anemic,   chlorella will increase your iron naturally without having to eat meat or   eat   iron pills.  



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Oh, the iron But, actually, I don't think it's chlorella. It's chlorophyll concentrate.  

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Oh, interesting. Okay. So that's different then. But the reason people would eat one of the reasons people would eat chlorella was because of the chlorophyll content.   Chlorephil concentrate   supplement.  

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Now let let me get this,   I just luckily, for some reason, I'm it's within my reach.   Like Chlorella Deville then if you think I should stop because I'm also taking, but I think are really good, but this says it has chlorophyll in from chlorophyll copper complex   and that is the other ingredients are   soybean oil, gelatin glycerin   yellow beeswax   purified water and soy.  

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Why would you be taking a bunch of soybean oil?  

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I don't know. It's  

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just the filler and the capsule are made out of that. Carrier oil. That's it's not the filler. It's a carrier.  

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It looks really normie. Doesn't the bottle look really normie, but I have a lot of really truther looking   packaging   on  

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So it's a synthetic so chlorophyllin   is a semi synthetic, so they've rearranged the atomic structure of this for starts.   And that's just basic that's just basic,   Rockefeller medicine   is rearranging   the atomic structure or something.   So their, atomic structure of chlorophyll   has already been rearranged. See, it's a it's a   synthetic fucking,   element.   It provides   green colorant with good thermal and light stability.  

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Oh dear   I just love it because   you know, it just I thought that it was a good thing, but  

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You know, I fear not. Our community does some real.   They are the most jumped the shark.   It's no different than the mainstream that it's just like one weird health thing after another, and every one of them jumped the shark. There's not any fucking thought put in it in into any of it. I was talking about that with Karen.   Yeah. You know, fuckers are rubbing piss in their eyes like a goddamn goat  

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and ask you, like, that's health healthy. I'm not gonna  

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healthy? No. No. No. No. No. Oh, that's that's not all they're doing with it. They're they're doing everything you could imagine with it. They didn't get they didn't get their butts.   Aging it? That's right. Aging it in the bathroom, you know, let it sit around for 6 months.  

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It's the most disgusting thing, and it grosses me out so much. I'm so not into that. Like, I just wish it makes me feel like there's not an intelligent creator if the pee exists.  

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It's it's within the world. Proof of the epidemiurge.  

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People that use,   that are into the what do they call it? Shambo? I remember,  

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But still, I despite how disgusting I think it is, I feel guilt tripped. Like, I need to try it to make certain people happy. That's how a cult works. Oh, no. Don't do it. This,  

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chlorophyllin that you're taking is it was originally for?   What?   It's the only,   green coloration that's allowed in citrus beverages.  

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Is it   oh, so that was the original purpose of it so that they could use it as a safe green dye?  

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Yep.   Interesting.  

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Well, that's what methyl,   methylene blue. It was a dye originally, and then they realized after some certain studies that it helped with neurological   things.   So the methylene blue turns your pee blue, and the chlorophyll turns your poop green.  

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Nice. Those are 2 Enya songs. Can you name a 3rd?  

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That was pretty good.  

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What's wrong with the pee?   Well Wow. You know, that part where they say that you were taught that pee is, a waste product. Know the fact that after I drank water, my body went ahead and peed it out. Like, I the doctors didn't even have to tell me. Like, I just get up and I I just piss that shit right out. It just happens. Like, my body's like, oh, no. The man told me I must do this. Like, no. No. You can't you can't prevent it from happening. Yeah. It's not it's not just that it happens naturally. I mean, like, you can't not pee.   And and what's really getting weird for me is You will die. Or starting to laterally. Especially in this era   where plague is starting to become a thing again, where they talk about it. What's really disturbing for me is is the fact that we've removed   other people's   waste from our environment.  

It was living in human feces that cause and piss that caused most plagues.   Like, that we did not live in a clean environment, and it was the the getting our own human feces and fucking and piss   away from us as a group   That really kind of stopped that whole plaguing thing from happening so much.   You know, and it just seems to me like they're like, you  

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know, what's next? Oh, poop is really good for your skin. You were taught it was excrement.  

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Like   That is  

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this is the next step, isn't it? We gotta eat some poo because it's healthy.  

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What's the differentiation?   You were taught poop was waste. It was you were taught that. Just because you poop it out your butt, why is it waste? I was rubbing pee all in my eyes last night.   Fucking dumb.  

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Have they rewritten the DSM at this point? And if you have family members who are   obsessed   with   these   things that are released from your body,   then could you use that as a a reason to bring them to a mental health  

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institution and just keep them there? Just drop them off? That used to be for sure. If you found somebody   in their own excrement,   that was definitely   a mental instability. And that's actually the funniest part about this Topher Gardner, and I'm Fred with Topher. And he was rubbing his pee in his eyes. He's like and my eyes were all bright and shiny. And I'm like, yeah. Because you were fucking crazy, Topher.   Crazy people's eyes are shiny too, bro. Quit rubbing your game. Gary Busey.  

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Oh, I made a meme for you, Rose. I made a Gary Beecy meme for you. It's in the Oh, thank you.  

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Yeah. I saw that. I'll put that up here.  

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Yeah. Well, Indians also want you didn't want the boobs and the vegines   and try and fucking tell you that they're from the IRS. I don't know. Let them people take cow pee and rub it on their face.   I don't fucking know what's wrong with those people. Answering this comment. I see here. Let's,   and burning poop, that works really good. That actually is just a thing. Yeah. I mean, usually, if you're if you're using  

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feces to build houses or to to make fuel for your fire, it's usually just symbolic of your level of poverty most of the time.   Like, there's nothing else that'll burn. There's lots of poop. It's dried out. It will burn. Okay. You need fire because you're cold or you have to cook or do some kind of work. You know, in a pinch, you have to burn up the poop. But usually, if you give them better fuel, then they'll stop using the poop and burn up the other fuel,  

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normally, I think. I do have an unrelated image here. Someone shared a picture of a law enforcement member   with the piggy bank, so I'm glad that they're they're pinching pennies with the converse.  

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Save save saving it out. Yep.  

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That's really something.   Okay. Where's my Gary Busey meme?  

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It doesn't it doesn't it comes. Did you find it, Alan? Yeah. I got it. Here here it is.  

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Have to read it in Gary Busey voice.  

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The face just seemed like it needed commentary on that. Put that too. That really is. I mean,   you know, his glasses, I think, are probably straight, but his eyes are crooked. That's why I was just like  

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Would it be exactly. The glasses are straight, but the eyes are crooked. You know, the thing is I just realized I could use this picture over and over again.   We could have it we could change the caption. Have you tried drinking your pee or rubbing it into your eyes?   That would be pretty funny.  

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Have you tried putting your pee up in that hole?  

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In the park. Or I want to find in favor of Dave Mustaine, but I can't. I'm sorry. That would be a good one. You know? I I doubt we have too many piss drinkers in our, in our,  

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crowd here. But I do want to make a point that,   one of the other big problems with these piss drinking, which I don't think that, you know, a lot of times that you're gonna be pretty okay drinking your pee. I mean, dodgeball,   and it's sterile, and I like the taste.   But,   the   where it really starts going sideways is is also in the community. There's a heavy,   supplementation   recommendations.   So people are taking   extreme doses of supplements,   which sometimes they're needed. Don't get me wrong. But here's the thing is the way your body works is is what it cannot   process because it's not bioavailable,   it will get rid of.  

And if it doesn't,   then you get this thing called nutrient lock, where you've got you're basically swimming in an ocean, but but drowning or I mean fucking dying of thirst. Like you've got all the water around you, but you can't use   it. And the same thing happens with minerals. It's called nutrient lock.   So these people are taking extreme amounts of nutrients,   and then in the morning drinking their pee, which is loaded   with these nutrients, some of which they have unlocked. Your body's   made it more bioavailable   like a dog that pukes and then eats its puke because then it can digest it the second time.  

Yeah. You know, kinda like that. Pretty gross.   But, a lot of that, you're still not gonna be able to process. And then on that second day, you're putting in that same supplement again. So you're doubling down on the amount your body's not able to process.   The 3rd day, you're adding it in again.   You can follow where I'm going here where you have just created an extreme   situation of nutrient lock.   It's just not well thought out.   The nester of life.   Awesome.   Awesome. You put a Shiva on there or a Buddha or whoever the fuck that is. So it's obviously fucking awesome. The India in India, they know everything.   They're very spiritual with their bots and and their IRS agents.  



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It's protected under some sort of religious liberty's laws. The rape, Ben. Don't leave out the rape. About the rape, a caste system.  

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Like, these people still live in a full cast, and and it's a it's and I'm actually okay with a cast system as long as a person's able to move in it. They have a a a a immovable cast. System. Yeah. Yeah. A closed system.   Like, they are some of the most fucked up people. And if you oh, and and and white America, we're like, oh, they're so spiritual. I'm a white girl. I believe in all spirituality, but white spirituality.  

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Oh, we might need another time stamp there.   Hashtag   time stamp.   And is a  

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Aceved Lindgren is a girl. Legend.   Yes. We gotta get Jason on here so I can make so that way he can be embarrassed to be next to me too.  

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Absolutely.  

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3 20. I said 327.   327.  

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I forgot what That's a good number. That's one of my favorite numbers.  

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I can't believe it's what I was going to   say. How should I come back? We'll we'll wait. Everyone's  

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really thinking quite a bit. Steve on blue will do that to you.  

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This is a planned uncomfortable silence.   Upon   the the pressure. It didn't  

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Let's see. We'll sit here for 2 minutes and then just end the stream without saying a word.   We could all there we go. Since we were talking about India, I say,  

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oh. Well, that reminds me of   this concept   that I was introduced to, and I don't know how cool it is. Ben, does this sound like a cool thing to you or another thing that someone's making sound cool, but it isn't?   A   liquid   superconductive   red gold.  

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Interesting.   Why?   Superconductive   liquid ready gold.   That's super interesting because there are states when you're trying to make gold from home,   you that it takes on a red hue.  

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I know a guy who's making it, and he also has other colors too. And he got his information that allowed him to make this from his great   great   great   grandmother   who apparently   was on an Egyptian   expedition   for the Rockefellers   and discovered something in Egypt that allows him to create this.  

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It's the  

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I've seen purple gold going around, pictures of purple gold claiming it's real on the web recently too.  

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It is real? Is regular gold not   superconductive? And so it's interesting that it's No. Not superconductive  

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by any means. Okay. Fuck. No. I don't know what you mean. So you so you so okay. So a normal conductor   what a normal conductor means   in any situation, whether it's heat or whatever,   you're taking energy and energy in all forms is basically as we understand it in today's nomenclature   electrons.   So whatever form that electron's taking, whether it's beast of heat, light, blah blah blah,   electrons is doing the thing. So a conductor is able to take an electron in on this side, and then over a given amount of time, that electron will push back out here. It's not the it's not usually the same electron, but this one creates a push with the domino effect.   And then another electron falls out this side.  

With a superconductor,   anything that exists on this side also exists on this side.   So   there is no   transfer. There's no time.   Time is only a function of resistance. You take the resistance away and time doesn't exist anymore.   Things exist on both points a and b at the same time   because that's gone. That's a superconductor.  

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Alright. Well, in the private chat, I put the link to the YouTube video   that the guy told me   Crow and Jason need to watch before I   have I already have a meeting scheduled, and he just said make sure they watch that video before we meet. Want us to watch it, Rose? Oh, we don't have to. I was just providing And today, we didn't I I wasn't  

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girls always do this. No. I didn't say like that. Like, if you wanna watch the video, let's watch the video. They're like, we're not like, all the guys force us to watch it. He's   just providing it as a reference. It's 40 minutes long. We can't do that. 40 minutes? Yeah. We can't do that, but I'm totally interested. So it it's supposed to be about superconduction.   He  

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The title is like a radiant sun part 1, the most important video ever made about gold.  

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Really? It's unlisted.  

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So I don't know if you should share it. It might be private right now. Oh, yeah. I'm not gonna we won't share it then, but I've got it pulled up. I will definitely be watching that. That sounds fascinating.  

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Just dab open. Just to write it But, no, gold is not a superconductor.  

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Gold's not even the best conductor. So silver is a better conductor than gold is. Gold just doesn't deteriorate as easily as silver. Silver will oxidize   where gold isn't subject to oxidation,   not particularly.  

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Well, I I'll please let me know what you think if you happen to take a look at it, a glance, or skim through it because   I always am trying to figure out if, like, it has the so called ring of truth to it. And I'm not educated enough to   really make heads or tails of what he has already told me. But I'm hoping that after I watch that video myself, I will gain some clarity as well.  

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There there's just a lot of real   shit going around. I hope this is really good. I'm also and the thing is is at this point, it's like I almost feel like this curmudgeon that, like, is like,   like, I'm anti   conspiracy. Like, no. I'm down with this kind of stuff, but I've been studying free energy for years years. I've been studying all these things for decades   and, like like, the free energy movement. I love it. But   I have yet to see, like, all these things. Like, right now, there's a video of going around where people are pulling voltage from the differential between the upper environment and the ground.   And, yes, you get voltage, but you don't get amperage. And then they're like, oh, they knew how to harness it. No. They didn't. No, they fucking didn't.  

There's no amperage there. You need amperage. It understand how electricity works.   Voltage is the riverbed,   amperage is the river. So you need both things   without either one. This chip don't work.  

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So  

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Speaking of which, I actually was gonna ask you and I keep forgetting about,   we were interested in maybe talking to, Matt Rife.  

[03:34:57] Unknown:

Well, we talked to him, and he sent me his machines. I didn't notice any effect of the machine. I tried all these different frequencies,   and the I would love to have done an episode with him,   but he is unwilling to prove his familial relation to Raif. Now I don't even care if he's related to Raif, but since he says he's related to Raif, I wanna see proof of it. And it's not that I need it from him. It's just that since he's not willing. Now, apparently,   as soon as a certain family member dies, then he's gonna be okay with providing the proof. So I'll just wait till   I mean, not to be morbid, but I that's what my my main thing is that I just   wanna see the proof that he's actually related. Is there, some family?  



[03:35:43] Unknown:

I have to wonder then if there's some family   discrepancy or fight between who can deal with this information   or not.   You know? Like, in my family,   my great my grandpa was a mason,   and I've asked he was a he was a high ranking mason.   I've asked numerous times for his,   his books because he you know, my grandpa's passed away, and he left books that have all this secret information in it. And my aunt won't give it to me. And, like, my dad's like, no. None of us has looked in it. Grandpa made us all promise not to look in it. And I'm like, well, I didn't promise shit. Give me the books.   Hey. I had promised a fucking thing to nobody.  

We're cool. Like, I don't think you guys should have read it either. I should read it.  

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Amperage is the strength of an electric current.  

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Right.  

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I just was clarifying that for the question in the chat. And, also, Matt Rife is a comedian, but then there's a different Matt Rife. So not Matt Matt Reif. The the  

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supposed apparently supposed   nephew of Royal Reif.   Not not a mainstream   weirdo comedian.  

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Now things don't generally work on me that work on others. So just because his machine didn't   give me results doesn't mean that it doesn't work.  

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Rose has unfortunately   had some things happen to her body that whether you're into natural medicine or   Rockefeller medicine,   there's some things happen to her body that it just don't work right anymore. And,   there is I don't know that   short of, like,   some profit character that   is able to, like, just, you know, fucking   throw the leprosy or throw the,  

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you know, pair it, you know. Dude, you're not supposed to out her. Don't tell everybody that she has leprosy. That's fucked up, Ben.  

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I mean, like Like if if I I am the perfect candidate for, like,   Cyborg organs, like, I think that it would help me replace my stomach with a robot stomach if that was a thing.  

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Probably.  

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Probably. Well, not until they get it perfect.  

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Could we could we use your stomach? Go beta testing robot stomachs, please. Could we use your stomach to to get the But if you can't get yours back. Out so we can make cheese from this? We could have a line of roast cheese.  

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That is genius.   I've always been trying to figure out of what product would I sell that's different than what anyone else is, and I should sell my stomach to make cheese.   It's a gift that keeps on giving.   Right?  

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We've really taken taken it to the hilt here on some of these topics, and I really appreciate that. I want you guys to know.   We've got I I need to write this down. Ro's stomach. This won't even mean anything when I look back at that. Why do you have stomach cheese? Some stomach cheese.   Pounding,   and roast stomach cheese.   Robot stomach cheese.  

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No. I get to keep the robot. You get to keep the organic   biology.  

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We could delete your original stomach. Now there's an idea.   If it'll work good enough for some people. The cheese is called Rose Triple Seven's original.  

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Is it gonna be a spicy cheese? Quote marks. Boy g.  

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This cheese is gonna be chock full of hotspot.  

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We're gonna put it in there. I think you should definitely add chives to it since I love chives so much. Oh, you guys wanna hear a funny story?  

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Like, let's see.   That that way   is a cemetery.   A pretty big cemetery. Lots of free masonic symbols in it too. Lots of them. And,   there's a nice building next to the cemetery where they do the stuff. There's no crematory, but there's a nice church there, and it's called   the chapel of the chimes.   But   the font on the on the signs the signage   really isn't very good. It's not quite right. You know how some signs are, they just don't read quite right. So my lady, who I love,   she's like, why is it the chapel of the chives? And I'm like, what did you say?   The chapel of the chives? She's like, yeah. It's the chapel of the chives. And I'm like, no. It says chimes.  

And, you know, so ever since then, now we have the joke that that's the you know, smells like onions today. It's the chapel of the chives, you know, and I so pretty funny. I live next to the chapel of the chives. I love it, but you know, I think that the word chimes  

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is related to freemasonry now. Because, Ben, remember I took you to the restaurant, the Chimes?   Yep. Yep. And there's cemeteries   here that are masonic  

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as well. So I wonder if Yeah. The free masonic restaurant, and it's the best. I mean, I don't mean there's lots of masonic headstones, but there's, like, a huge,   there's a huge   bumblebee nest, you know, a hive, a big hive. There's a huge plaque with some weird masonic quote on it. I mean, and there's, like, at least 5 or 6 other very distinguished masonic features in the cemetery. Like, to me, it's, like, obviously built and run by Masons, you know, like, not that I have a problem with that. I mean, I don't have this inherent   disgust and fear of, Freemasons that lots of people in the conspiracy realm seem to cling to. I do think that at the top of, Freemasonry, there's bad things going on, but I think that's because   Adam Weishaupt, the guy who started the Illuminati, said that his plan was to take his weird   Illuminati cult and use masonry as a shield and hide inside of it. And I think he did successfully do that and that whatever he started continues.  

And so you can't necessarily   blame the ancient masonic orders for the fact that they got infiltrated and taken advantage of. That's my opinion.  

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Yeah. Yeah. I totally agree. I think that basically people in positions of power   are more likely to be shitty. So the shitty people rise to the top, and then these organizations get integrated.   And that something like freemasonry,   the people at the bottom who join, it's like a headhunting   thing, and they let the people who are more willing   to go by the agenda of the people at the club to rise up to the top. It's, like, only past, like, the 33rd degree probably that there are people who actually know what the hell is going on.  

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That seems to make sense to me. And that those people technically at that point really are outside of whatever   masonry used to be, and they're still calling it masonry. Maybe. Who knows what they're really calling it. Right?   They might call it Rose's original.  

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Yes.   I I I don't have any issues with Mason's at all myself.   Our country was built by Mason's. Every small town had Mason's.  

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It's, Well, they still do. The signs are all over them. And there's there's still a whole bunch of things down.  

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These were just this was our grandpas and our uncles and shit like that and and agreed that they got infiltrated. And I don't even know that it's even an infiltration.   Power, you know,  

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power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. And this is just Well, that too. I mean, I say that the infiltration part because that was a big part of the Illuminati's little scheme from the alleged original documents. You know? But I think both. So both are true. Yeah. I'm not disagreeing that they got infiltrated, but I think a lot of it is just that  

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shitty people are the ones that seek power. It's just how it works.  

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And and the thing is is  

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right. And the thing is is is   this is very similar to there's a bunch of people now that sit there and say this whole thing that the constitution was either, you know,   set this system up or it was powerless to prevent it, so it was a bad document.   But the thing is is the constitution   relied   on us   being,   taking responsibility   for ourselves.   So if we saw the system start to go bad, that we,   the blood of patriots   patriots   and tyrants, patriots was said first,   the blood of them, you were gonna be willing to throw out your life down on the line because you saw shit wasn't right anymore.   And and there was a reliance   on that fact that people were gonna do that. We quit doing that.  

We started letting the when the government fucking just started getting wild and we didn't fight back,   they just kept going further and further. They started with an inch, and they took a mile, and we let them take the inch. We let them take the mile,   and now it's just crazy.  

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Yeah. Well, I think that's true about any system design like this. It's supposed to have full blown participation   and then that becomes co opted and turned into something else. And the thing is you weren't supposed to get paid for it. It wasn't supposed to be a benefit. It's your civic duty   to just participate   so that it runs.   You know?   Just like taking your shopping cart back and putting it in a little corral.   It's just you don't get paid for it. You don't get a benefit. Nobody passed you on the back. You don't get your shopping cart   100%   button or any shit like that. You just put it back because then a little old lady can park her fucking car where the space is. You know? Yeah. And that's how the government is supposed to run too. But now, you know, you can get paid $200,000   a year to be a senator and somehow make   $16,000,000   in the course of 10 years.  

And everyone's like, oh, that's just the way it goes. But that's not the way it's supposed to be, man. It's not supposed to be like that.  

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Like Cheney is saying, all those things, way more dangerous than the Masons.  

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Yeah.  

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Mason's were actually building America.   They were trying to make this place nice. They liked it here.   Those people that Cheney just mentioned, none of them live here. They don't give a fuck about us.   Like, that's a pretty simple fucking thing to remember. Like, the people that don't live here don't care.  

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And also there's like a light side of freemasonry,   you know, and they have this whole entire like resurrection   allegorical   story,   and I don't see it as any different than the allegorical stories of other groups and things Yeah. People can use.   I think that I've I've heard more good stories about people who are Masons than any of the groups that Cheney put there, especially,   you know, Israel. It's, like, not even a comparison.  

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Thomas from Paranoid America is a Mason. We're we get along. We're friends with Thomas. Fucking Jeffrey Drumm who comes on the show regularly. He's a he was a he was a an actual   ran a lodge master Mason.   Freaking, I got no problems with masons.   Like,   they those were just the people interested in in   keeping this place going. Like like,   like Meg up here was saying, Freemasons near me are just plumbers and carpenters and firemen, etcetera.  

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Yeah.  

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You know? These are just the dudes that are usually the ones taking responsibility   for things. And, sure, those groups got infiltrated, but all the groups are infiltrated. Yes. I don't I don't care if it's a fucking church. Your churches are cults. Your church your your your politics are cults. Your your health groups are cults. Your workout groups are cults,   all of it.   The dude in charge is a cult leader all the time.  

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I wanna ask Jason if I could show   the ring he has, but I just I'm not gonna ask just in case that's a weird thing to ask   because it was his dad. Is it an onion ring?   No. It's freemason ring.   It's a The only thing he has left from his dad because his dad was No. Onion rings used to mold and deteriorate, Alan.  

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Apparently, my grandpa sold his because he was trying to patent a bunch of things, and that's like the only thing my family talks about. They couldn't care less about what's in those books. They're like, yeah. He sold his ring. Mike, gives a fuck about the fucking ring. So, you know, he was in the Masons. I wanna know what's in the books.   Give me the books.  

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Well, you could just buy a free masonic bible so easily on the Internet. We got all the free masonic bible. This is just  

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Yeah. He was a just   piece that the Mason Hall in town is named after my great   grandpa. Like,   the shin and his thing is very private, and I want  

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Yeah.   I wanna see what's in the basement of the Vatican.  

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Yes.  

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Yeah. I think it probably has the true history of our world, including the real whatever whatever the truth is about so called Atlantis.   Oh, interesting. And I think it's accurate.   Apology that they   something happened  

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with the fucking air right. You fucking air right.   When you're when you're into such a pussy yourself, they have to make it it. They have to totally move the Overton window   and make it so that way they look like men. That's just straight up how that is.   Like, oh, no. It's manly to play video games.   Look at it. I'm at level 83   warlock   fighter  

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thing.  

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So, Rose, you mentioned Atlantis a little bit. Is that kind of the one   last conspiracy   that you think you wanna continue looking at more? And you kind of kind of disapproved,   kind of nudged away from certain   lines of inquiry and research that says it's probably not gonna bear any fruit, but you think this Atlantis thing is   the one thing that is   continuing with your interest?  

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Well, I think that   I'm   interested   in   finding out for myself   Mhmm. If it was a real place. Because up until very recently, I thought it was completely   fictional fantasy and wasn't even supposed to be real. Like an allegory of Atlantis?   Yeah. So now that I'm hearing the suggestion that it was possibly real, and I've heard from a few people that that's one of the things   that is hidden,   and   there's might be some kind of artifact. I don't know what would be in a basement to prove its existence other than artifacts that they say are from there,   or some kind of technology   that would be associated with its supposed downfall.  

Mhmm. I hear   so many different theories   from so many different people about Atlantis and Egypt and who built the pyramids   that it makes my mind spin, and I can't even begin to try and, like, focus on which one makes more sense to me, because all of them are interesting.   So and I also believe that the people talking about those theories believe what they're talking about.   So, like I said, I would need more firsthand experience with those artifacts in order to come to any kind of conclusion or opinion.  

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And the artifact would be more than a murder.  

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Or, What is this supposed artifact?  

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Just any artifact.  

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What kind of artifact would artifact would prove to me that Atlantis existed? I guess maybe not. I I don't know because I actually don't know if an artifact   how could looking at an artifact   prove to me that Atlantis existed? So I don't know. Maybe that's can prove it to me.   But it would still be fun and interesting to see what they have down there.   I I I a lot of what I think is that everything that the so called truth community thinks   is just, like,   the people who have the real information, they're probably laughing at it. And you just probably have no idea about anything and every piece of information that has been presented to us for us to examine   was there for us to examine and   be distracted by perhaps.  



[03:52:20] Unknown:

Well, and and for me, Atlantis is just garbage.   It was Socrates. Socrates says that,   his a guy he knew   talked about Atlantis.   Like, the start the our very start of this is a hearsay story.   Like, that dude didn't even see this   shit. That's the only actual historical evidence. And, of course, it comes out of the Greek asshole philosophers,   Bunch of little rich cons that just sat around.  

[03:52:50] Unknown:

Well, Ben, if I find out that Atlantis was real, I am totally   going to tell you what I found out. Damn straight. Get me. Get it.   I know. Like, wouldn't it be crazy if someone will, like, work their full lives to try and gain access to the Vatican library, and then they get down there and it's just a crazy, like, torture chamber?  

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It just got the original Doctor Seuss books and shit like that. Dusty ping pong tables.  

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Like that like that movie, the island, where they think they won the lottery and that they're going to an island, but really they're having their organs harvested. Like, everyone who goes through the trouble to go to the Vatican, that's that situation. They think they've won something and then they just get their head chopped off.  

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Yeah. You just gotta sit down there and get   on by all the pre all the priests.  

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Headless.  

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Catholics,   weirdos.   At least they don't eat stinky fish, I guess.   Marcus.  

[03:53:59] Unknown:

Jewish people eat stinky fish.  

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See, I don't like any of them ones that eat the stinky fishes.  

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Fish.   Pickles, herrings. There's all kind of fish.  

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Good fish. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've never tried gefilte fish in my entire life. Just the sight of it makes me wanna throw up. And one time I was in   some city in the Netherlands. It may have been, like,   house dinner or something, and I had it's like a bun. And in the bun Mhmm. Is, like, a couple of little, like, pieces of onion, like, you would find in a Taco Bell burrito.   And these herring   this whole these, like, fishes. And it was just awful. I I couldn't take more than a bite. I had to beg my friend to eat it for me.   But I like lox,   so  

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go figure. Got cream cheese? Yeah. Like, bagelox and cream cheese. Right. With a little piece of fish on it?  

[03:54:54] Unknown:

Yeah. Lox is fish. Like salmon or something? Smoked salmon, but   I would never allow   smoked salmon   on my sushi. I see smoked salmon on these sushi menus,   which is psychotic to me. You just want the fresh salmon sushi. You don't want smoked   also, what's up with people putting cream cheese in the sushi? It's the Jews   infiltrating   the sushi restaurant.   And the locks? They need to get out of my sushi.  

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Bad bagel businesses.  

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No more kosher sushi.  

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No more bagelux and cream cheese sushis.  

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Sushi is good.  

[03:55:43] Unknown:

I know. It's my favorite. I love the combination of salmon and avocado. It just makes this. Oh,  

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that's a good one.   Yeah. Good fats.   Yeah. Go ahead. It's so weird that Easter this year, the following day is gonna be April 1st.  

[03:56:01] Unknown:

Oh.  

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Yeah. I thought Easter was the 31st, but it's the first.  

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30 ish. Like, he is risen, April fools, snow eating.   We could hide we could we could hide eggs and then, you know, make them rotten eggs or something. So you can buy in Easter and April Fools just to really mess with the kids.  

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Right. Like, they can say, like, you know,   something about Jesus that's wrong and then be like, psych.   Like, go to McDonald's, order fish sandwiches, but put McRibs in them instead and see if anyone notices or complains about it? Yeah. Or they can just say, like, you totally don't have to accept Jesus as your Lord and savior to save your soul today. And everyone's like, yay. And they're like, just kidding. You're going to hell.  

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Fire insurance policies. That's so great.   Forever.  

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I think I'm I think after 4 hours, I'm ready to   end my guest appearance.  

[03:57:03] Unknown:

Thank you. We thank you very much, Rose.   Did, did Crow enjoy his,   live show with,   Mark Sargent?  

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Oh, yeah.  

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I think he did. That was a great show.  

[03:57:18] Unknown:

Yeah. I was happy that that happened because the last time he was on that show was, like, something like episode 8 from 2015, which I have yet to go back and listen to. But I went back just to, like, click on it for a second, and it just sounded like he was, like, a phone caller to a radio show. Like, just really, like, bad quality audio. Oh,  

[03:57:38] Unknown:

well, you were gonna you were gonna get back to me,   after he did that and,   talk to me about,   what   you wanted him.   He wanted to go do some more shows.  

[03:57:52] Unknown:

Yeah. He'll come back here.  

[03:57:54] Unknown:

Yeah. So you're gonna tell me, whether how that   whether he was gonna wanna do that live for a couple hours or   prerecorded   a different time according to   how that went with Mark.  

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Oh, okay. Now I understand   what you mean by how it went. Okay. Just so everybody knows   by how it met went, the whole reason is that Crow is an early bird,   and it was going to be really difficult for him to do a show with Mark and Karen at 10:30 PM east eastern.   Mhmm. Yes. So, yeah, I guess I just have to ask him if he minds, but I feel like since it it I thought it went fine, and I think I thought so too. I I watched it. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I I feel like I'm just gonna book it.   I'll I'll I'll run it by him, and I'll just make him I'll just remind him that it's another late night show. But it'll be Where can we find more Rose content?  

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Oh,  

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my I'm on my 5th YouTube channel, so everything has been totally deleted. And all of the my the work I'm so proud of from 2020   when I was   very active is gone. But if you wanted to sub to my 5th channel,   feel free. And, also, I have a bunch of stuff posted on Rockfin.   And, of course,   my what my, like, the stuff that I'm serious about that I work on is Crow Triple 7 Radio, but I'm not on the mic for that show. I'm just looking behind the scenes. Are you active on Telegram?   Yes. So there's a Crow Triple 7 Radio, Telegram,   and you know how on Telegram you can make the channel so that people comment. Mhmm. Comment on any of the posts of the Crow Triple 7 Radio Telegram.  

It goes into the Rose Triple 7 channel.   So the little discussion group is called Rose Triple 7 channel. Is that the right URL? My channel.  

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Okay.  

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And so, yeah, you could follow me there, but you can't comment or interact. So follow crow Triple 7 if you wanna comment or interact.   And, Billing Tano, I haven't done the poppycock report with Wayne in a long time because we've both been really busy. But maybe here and there in the future, we'll do an episode here and there.  

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Here and there?   Yeah.  

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But all the all the best stuff that I'm involved very willy willy.  

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What was that then? That was very willy nilly.  

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Yeah.  

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Bobby Cock report, willy nilly.  

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Or Willie Nelson.  

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That your favorite Nelson?  

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He didn't get vaccinated, I don't think.   Yeah. And a half now before you got which   Karen b and I did one episode of.   Because I don't think that Karen because it was an experiment to see if Karen wanted to edit like Jason, where we were gonna prerecord and she was gonna edit out, like, all the ums and the verbal ticks and try and make it, like, really high audio quality. So it was, like, ASMR.   Good to listen to, like, crow.   But I think she just didn't wanna do that kind of heinous,   polish work.  

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Sounds horrible. Yeah. Yeah.  

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It's hard to do that work when other people just pull the rug up from underneath you and remove the channels   and ban you and   make it difficult for people to find the work to begin with.  

[04:01:22] Unknown:

Yeah. Because not only is it just that they don't, it's not just that people don't resub because they don't know that you got deleted. But by now, everyone should know that I got deleted. But I feel like after you've had so many channels deleted, they're like, she's just gonna get deleted again. Why sub? And then that's suggested.   So I think that it's very,   it's also like psychological warfare. Like, once you're on the 5th panel, they will like, for example, I'll be streaming something, and there will be 25 people   listening in chat and chatting. Right? But then once the stream ends, it says you have one view.  



[04:01:56] Unknown:

So it's Happens to us too. Happens to us too.  

[04:02:00] Unknown:

They're trying to hide that you have any views. And even though you know in your heart that people are listening and that view count doesn't matter, it does have some kind of psychological effect just because you know that YouTube hates you.  

[04:02:11] Unknown:

Well, and, you know, we can say and and I do agree. I don't care so much. You know, I'm not trying to be mister popular, and we all know that. But at the same point in time,   your stuff doesn't get put out to the people who want to see it   and and that you don't grow. And that's really disheartening.   And honestly, at some point in time, when you see fuckheads like Archaics who can be a violent rapist and sitting there fucking saying dumb shit,   and   he can grow by literally 10,000 subs a month. Like, he's fucking out there saying magical things,   and you can't catch a sub, and it takes us a year and a half to get to a 1,000. That's some bullshit. You know? And it's disheartening. You know, I I've often wondered about him if he is buying fake subs,  

[04:02:59] Unknown:

and then the psychology of the channel growing makes the few cult members   that have fallen for his bullshit   feel excited about that fact. Like, oh, this special thing I believe in is the real deal. Look at how it's just shooting popularity,   and all these thousands of people also think what he's saying makes sense. Today, I ignored an email because for me, it's better to say nothing   than what I wanna say, which is, like, you're a fucking idiot for sending me this. But someone sent me a link, and it's like, you should look at his opinion of the eclipse. And I actually,   like usually, I will click on a link, and I'm totally fine with listening to something that I disagree with. But this guy annoys me so much to the core that maybe he's fucking right about the eclipse, but I'll just discover it from someone else or on my own time, and I don't wanna hear it from him. So fuck off with his names.  



[04:03:50] Unknown:

That that's what I'm saying. You know? Because I've had other people say that same thing to me. Like, well, he says some things, and I was like, the only thing I ever wanted to hear from that guy is is gasping and gurgling noises and watch him do some twitchy kicks. And that's the only thing I want from that dude.  

[04:04:07] Unknown:

I don't give a fuck what he says. I try to tell people that, look, he was involved in something very dark,   and I just don't want to be associated with that kind of darkness.   And,   it that it just it's simply that's the way I feel. And but people are so, like, they get angry with you. Like, they have some kind of emotional attachment, which is very culty.  

[04:04:31] Unknown:

Yeah. Well and then and then it's, oh, that's not very Christian. Well, I'm not very Christian. I'm not a Christian at all. We don't forgive those types. We take them out in the woods, and they don't come back.  

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Yeah.   It's almost like,   it seems like maybe, like, the way that people act in prison well, no. Maybe not. Some aspects of prison brings out the natural civilized   in the world. Yeah. But I I I just the only reason why I didn't wanna compare it to reality was because there's no women there to grow into the mix for it to be realistic. So it's as as realistic as it could be in an only male environment.  

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Yeah.   Yeah.  

[04:05:11] Unknown:

Alright, my friends. Well, I'm off, but I hope you guys have a great night. Love you, Rose.   And I and,   on here as soon as possible. And soon as I leave, I'm just gonna shoot you a potential date your way for a Saturday night. Perfect. Perfect. And Jason too. Tell Jason we love him. Tell him I miss him. Bye bye. Love you. Good night. Love you too, everyone. Bye.  

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That was awesome.  

[04:05:38] Unknown:

Let like, says,   he says he was the same he's the same dude he was at 17 when he committed said violent rate. That's not a date rate. That's not a girl that fucking   changed her mind later.   That's not   people were confused.   That that's not a kid that fucking got carried away.   That's none of those other bullshit excuses people try to make. The dude was a flat out   violent rapist, a woman. They tried to carjack a woman   and then decided to rape her bloody.   And she had to go to the hospital, and there's no forgiving that dude. There's no use for it. He shouldn't I don't care if he has the cure for fucking cancer. I don't wanna hear it out of his mouth.  

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Aggravated.  

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Aggravated.   Aggravated.   The other dude doesn't have violence on his charges. The other dude just got theft. He's the violent rapist.   Anybody that fucking stands up for that dude should go hang themselves too. Verification  

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required every year annually.  

[04:06:46] Unknown:

Yeah. That came out of his own mouth. He says, I'm the same dude I was when I was 17.   That 17 year old thought it was fun to violently rape a woman. When when a woman   who was hurt,   his reaction was hard on. Not I need to go and defend. I need to go fix this. I need to be a protector   and a caretaker.   His his his mentality was I take advantage of that.   You can't fix that.   There's something wrong in the way his wiring in his brain works.  

[04:07:22] Unknown:

So are those the telomeres we were talking about earlier and how certain people aren't getting pushed back, so their telomeres are not forging a path to say, I should not be behaving this way?  

[04:07:33] Unknown:

100% the same thing.   This is society being too weak to do what it needs to do because it's because it's uncomfortable.   Yeah. You know? And that's just like with when I have to go out and shoot fucking raccoons because they're killing my birds. I hate doing that. In fact, the last time it happened, I had to do shoot so damn many that I was depressed for, like, a month or 2 months. Like, I would it makes me miserable to do that. I'm a vegetarian,   to   And these everything that lives here is my responsibility   to make sure that that life is a good life, and I take that seriously. So my little bit of little bit of bitch and crying around because I don't like killing things is not gonna stop me from doing it.  

Yeah. All raccoons. It's horrible.   And the traps don't work. They they you're out in the forest. Once they find your once they find food, they keep coming. They'll come and come and come. There ain't no stopping them.   They're mountain lions are actually smart. You scare off a mountain lion, they don't come back.   Like, for as big and scary as they are, it's the bobcats and the coons. Those two things, they don't go away.   Like, there's a whole family of them, and as soon as they realize there's food somewhere, that's the end of it.  

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They're pretty vicious.   I used to live at a boat house and the raccoons would come and steal food and they got they started pushing people around. They'd come up,   stand up,   and   they knocked this one lady over and broke her arm, and then the neighbors started trapping them and   then dropping the lowering the traps into the river.  

[04:09:17] Unknown:

Oh,   see, I put them out with the 30:30. I don't mess around. I don't like animal suffering.   So I don't even mess around, like, when it gets it's done right now. Like, I it shouldn't suffer.   Like, that's that's I I I don't like that. It wasn't a place where you could shoot.  

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There's so many people. So  

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gotta do what you gotta do, I guess. They were bad. They were pretty bad.   Oh, man. And a big coon, they'll fuck up. I've seen a big coon fuck up 3 dogs.   Three full size hunting dogs. No problem.  

[04:09:51] Unknown:

Yeah.   So this is, like, the exposure   therapy treatment that they're doing in Japan. This might have been around the same time of, corona and the pandemic where people were afraid of going outside, so they decided to put hole in the wall and then serve it through it, which seems to be the most dehumanizing way and maybe not a not a way to actually expose people to other people in a healthy way to give them a job where they can put their hand through a wall to hand them their their coffee drink or something.   Seems like a backwards approach to solving a problem.  



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A 100%.   I I I feel like every year when they put out that   list of,   what what's that thing called? That   list of the Yes.   Yeah. When they put that out every year,   basically, people, like, it's no different than these fuckheads that go into WebMD and look up symptoms and then decide they have a disease.   You know, like, and these and it's these people that have nothing better to do with their time.   And during a day, they can, they can feel like they've,   you know, oh, that judge lady on TV. I'm just like her. Oh, that   shield maiden I watched on TV. I just like her. Doctor Quinn medicine woman. I'm just like her. You know? And and they have this   real problem of too much time and no,   sense of self. So they can identify with anything,   and   they fill they start filling in the gaps based on things that they see. And   too many people have too many   ideas about psychology.  

And all these people, like, I I've talked to so many people that have their own self diagnosed mental problems. Your mental problem is you need punched in your mouth once and then fucking go about your business.  

[04:11:46] Unknown:

Yeah.   So DSM   dash 5 dash t ruppercase,   TM in the little script there. It's a trademarked   name here, and they they keep working on this thing.  

[04:12:04] Unknown:

Come Changing it. Is it something?  

[04:12:06] Unknown:

Yeah. Up updating it.   Sure.   Sure. And and for some people everything in the planet   isn't just humans acting like weird fucking humans. It's all a mental disease. Right. And I've I've read anecdotes of people on forums talking about how they were upset that they couldn't find a therapist that would hold them accountable for anything.   And the reason that they were in a position of not doing anything or getting anything done is because no one held them accountable. They didn't have parents that held them accountable.   They turned 18. They're out of the house, or they're still in the house, but they're going to a therapist. And therapist just sits them on a couch and starts the clock and then just listens to them or plays a game of monopoly with them, but doesn't hold them accountable. So the only thing they might hold accountable to is, hey. You got   a appointment with me this afternoon, show up. But after that, there's no real follow-up   to making any changes. It's sort of like, well, did you do any changes? No. Okay. That's okay. We'll talk about it next week.  



[04:13:07] Unknown:

It's a profit based system.   Yeah. Really, unless you tell them that you're gonna hurt somebody or yourself,   they don't get involved.   Just walk you around, I guess.   It might help people to talk about stuff,   but,   you know,   but friends and family are for too.  

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Unless you're trying to talk about your friends and family, and you need someone to talk to, but then the therapist needs to say, okay.   You've been talking about the situation.   You need to decide what you're going to do. That's the whole reason a lot of people go to therapy is because they don't make a decision,   so then things just happen around them.  

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They need somebody to tell them what to do.  

[04:13:56] Unknown:

Yeah. And and psychologists and psychiatrists,   the most fucked up people on Oh my god. Yeah.   The whole reason that they got into psychiatry and psychology is because their brain is so fucked up that they were dying to try and figure out how their brain works,   and they still don't know.   They still don't get it. And they're just trying you using you as a guinea pig to try and fix themselves.  

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Yep.  

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Straight up.  

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Yeah. Stories   of,   the psychiatrist,   getting into relationships with their patients.   Yep. Is a total   power disparity.  

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Yeah.  

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And that's a good When I  

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when I was in prison, I don't believe that there was a single female drug counselor   in the prison that throughout the time there, you know, outside of the ones that just started,   everyone   in 8 years, every single one that was there   had a got into an inappropriate relationship with inmates.   Every single   fucking one.  

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Yeah.  

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Like, every one of them got caught sneaking stuff in for the inmates too and shit like that. Every one of them.  

[04:15:21] Unknown:

Well, it's kind of a part of that. Like, I know people that are teachers   for, you know, younger kids, like little kids,   primary school, or,   you know, preschool   teachers, and   they talk like   babies all the time. You know, even talking to to adults,   they are so used to to talking to little kids that they act and talk like that, you know,   in regular adult conversations.   So it's kind of a matter of who you hang out with. A lot of people I know that work at the penitentiary   are   they associate with   criminals all day, and they do   a lot of stuff that you wouldn't think they would do as being being guards.  

You know?   It's just kind of a matter of who you hang out with. You end up   you fly with crows, you become a crow.  

[04:16:27] Unknown:

I like that. I was gonna share the Victoria's Secret commercial earlier,   their white wings. Because there's a certain musician who   provided the music for it.   I think he was also a guy who found, God later in his life.   Oh.   You know who I'm talking about?  

[04:16:46] Unknown:

Were we talking about him earlier?  

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I don't think we said his name yet tonight.   Talked about, Bob Geldorf, but, I was thinking of another Bob.  

[04:16:57] Unknown:

Who were you thinking of?  

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Let me get a picture of him up here. See.   And you can describe what you're seeing there, this guy here.  

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Oh.  

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Yeah.  

[04:17:15] Unknown:

Dylan, what was his real name? Is that his real name?   Is that his Christian name, his first name, Bob Dylan?  

[04:17:25] Unknown:

That's   that's a good question. I think the answer might be no.  

[04:17:33] Unknown:

He isn't Allen, but   no relation to me.   There's some other guys on the list. Robert Allen Zoo. Yeah. I don't know who officer killer Kane is.   Leonard Cohen.   Oh, there's Leonard Cohen. It's a priestly name he's got.  

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Very priestly.  

[04:17:56] Unknown:

Mhmm. Turn to Buddhism.   And this is, Dave Mustaine,   2002. He's been   born again that   long.  

[04:18:07] Unknown:

No shit. Right around when dude from corn fucking went born again also. That was 2005. Here he is. Brian Head Welch.  

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I was thinking, like, the grape juice, Welch grape juice when we were having communion. It was  

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concentrated Welch grape juice. God, did their music get bad?  

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Yeah.   Mark Forner, Grand Funk Railroad.  

[04:18:34] Unknown:

I mean, Christian Entertainment's always pretty horrible, but, you know, like, as a genre, like,   Christian acting, that's the worst.   The fucking worst.  

[04:18:48] Unknown:

Yeah. So that gives Kirk Cameron.  

[04:18:51] Unknown:

Yeah. Kirk Cameron was their best. Like, they got Kevin Sorbo now. Like, dude, he was horribly cheesy back in the fucking nineties and whatnot   or early 2000s when he was doing Hercules. You know, that was horribly cheesy now. Like like, that's their superhero now. And they tried that that kid from, Twilight,   the one of the kids from Twilight. They tried him for Taylor Rother.   Yeah. That one didn't land.  

[04:19:18] Unknown:

Here's the, angels in Venice   commercial here.   You can find it if you're looking for it. It's my favorite blurry guy right there.  

[04:19:27] Unknown:

Oh, it's blurry. Your idol?  

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That's my idol here, Bob Dylan.   I don't know how much he got paid for tossing a cowboy hat in a Victoria's Secret commercial. It's a classy mustache, though.   He's looking dapper as hell. Kind of a kind of a devilish goatee he's got there. Yeah.  

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Yeah. Very pencil line up. Pencils and  

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Yeah. He's working for the chief.  

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Looks like, it was his his first commercial, and then he started doing Chuck commercials. It looks like there's a whole bunch of commercials where they used his music.  

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That definitely is the devil that makes the deal look with the hat never did.   The one that comes and convinces you to sign the contract.  

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Down at the crossroads.   Yeah. You ever seen that video of him, singing at,  

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Heroes World? That's the soul of my soul patch.  

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There it is. That's, so we needed to end on. So what is it exactly? Let's skip The sun of my soul patch.  

[04:20:39] Unknown:

Good one, Billy.  

[04:20:42] Unknown:

That will live in my mind forever.