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Are morals just statements or do they have a deeper meaning behind them?

In Episode #437 of 'Musings', Juan & I discuss: why ethics/philosophy is kind of lousy for understanding about morality, whether Spartans would approve of my stance on non-violence, Juan's dislike of them because they aren't actionable, the ambiguity of Aesop's fables and a list of books that helped me to understand this topic.

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Timeline:
(0:00) - Intro
(1:07) - Morals from 'A Room With A View'
(1:38) - Definitions
(4:45) - Nietzsche's herd mentality
(7:43) - Are there objective morals?
(13:16) - How do we reach consensus?
(24:03) - Boostagram Lounge
(28:41) - Drawing a line in the sand
(34:05) - The morals of stepping on lizards
(40:19) - Are there superior morals?
(45:32) - Religion & actions
(49:56) - Meme of the week
(50:22) - Cultural evolution & game theory
(59:15) - Our morals: violence/coercion/Raskjuanikov
(1:02:17) - Summary
(1:11:07) - V4V: Wake up at 4 am


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