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TJ Doerfel (also known as Sir TJ The Wrathful) is a musician in the band 'The Doerfels' and host of the 'Into The Doerfel-Verse' podcast.

In Conversation #98, TJ and I discuss: life on the road with 10 siblings, his experience of grinding away in the music industry, how he came across 'value 4 value music', why he started a podcast to interact with fans and the joys of rediscovering a passion.

Have a fantastic day wherever you are in the world & don't forget to boost!

Timeline:
(0:00) - Intro To TJ
(0:36) - Selling the family house to play music
(5:54) - TJ's love of music
(13:30) - Getting serious & practice
(24:01) - Child novelty vs turning pro
(31:21) - The 'Music Business' & connections
(40:20) - Self promotion vs V4V
(46:01) - Can Value 4 Value be mainstream?
(50:30) - V4V Music is open
(55:39) - Value is subjective
(1:00:01) - TJ's problem that v4v solved
(1:09:50) - 'Pay to play' grossness
(1:23:45) - Getting real feedback
(1:29:34) - Interacting with boosts & chapters
(1:42:47) - New music: acoustic and live
(1:48:39) - Starting again
(1:52:38) - Check out The Doerfelverse


TJ's Links:
Website: https://www.doerfelverse.com/
Mastodon: https://noagendasocial.com/@sirtjthewrathful

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Amen."}]}