15 October 2023
The Toils Of Learning Another Language | Are You Confident Pulling The Lever?
What's the point of mastering another language if it doesn't even make me confident!?
In Episode #416 of 'Meanderings', Juan & I discuss: why putting an ice cube in your bath water doesn't do much, Juan's love of cars and Formula 1, why my confidence is always kind of low, what we excel/suck at for language things and why it probably doesn't matter that we keep switching up our schedule.
Hope you're having a fantastic day wherever you are in the world!
Timeline:
(0:00) - Intro
(0:26) - Juan's not very cold baths
(3:39) - Life's rude awakenings
(8:55) - Reconnecting with an old joy
(16:59) - External & internal confidence
(23:59) - Pulling a lever to improve yourself
(33:14) - Planche baby
(34:26) - False friends between english/portuguese/spanish
(37:27) - Teaching baby Vienna another language
(42:29) - What we excel & suck at in language learning
(50:50) - Release schedule ... does it matter?
(56:36) - Evergreen content & chasing algorithms
(1:01:19) - V4V: How to support us
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Oh, no. Welcome back.
Mere Mortalites We are outdoors.
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You can see the video right now.
You can see our beautiful
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face is covered by the sun.
You've got Juan
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on this side Kyrin
beautiful here.
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A meanderings is a chance for us
to just have a conversation
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about whatever we want to have
a conversation about.
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It is the 14th of October 2023,
and true to his name,
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I'm going to start meandering
with something
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a little bit random. Okay.
Perhaps in the face of I'm
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going to call myself out.
And because we. Are dealing it.
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Now, often in life,
I have to find
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very specific ways to
settle my ego or settle
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the superiority complex
that might arise.
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And I mean most people,
although for me I know when it
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sometimes happens
and sometimes I don't.
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But one thing that I've always
I haven't taken pride in,
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but I've taken
maybe some satisfaction
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and I'll have a cold shower
or I'll have a cold bath.
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And the other day
I started going, Hey,
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I'm going to
in fact, this morning I went,
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I won't have another cold bath,
which I done yesterday
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with a couple of ice cubes.
But this morning
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I woke up nice and early.
It's a lot of stuff to get done.
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I went, I'm going to make this,
you know, it's just you basically
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go to the bath, turn on the cold
water tap to let it run
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until it fills up. I went and got
heaps of ice cubes
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that I put into
the freezer. Right.
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Got them all out. Put them into
the bathtub. Yeah. Yeah.
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I'm going to have a cold
bath is going to be like
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real cold.
Like what they say about
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how much cold
you should be having.
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I would say, what, two degrees?
Well, I'm
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also currently listening
to a particular podcast
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from Dave Asprey about called.
And so it's kind of connecting.
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I've been doing this
for a little while now. I haven't
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actually checked
the temperature line. Now
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I check the temperature before
I put the ice cubes, and after
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I put the ice cubes
now in Fahrenheit or in Celsius,
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I guess roughly to call it
like a cold bath
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should be 18 degrees
Celsius, maybe around
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60 degrees Fahrenheit,
65 degrees Fahrenheit
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or cold up, right? A Calder's.
Yeah, but I only had
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the ice cubes. So just with
the cold water I put the
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thermometer on top of it
just to check it.
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Now this is my kids
duck thermometer. So no, no, no
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accuracy accuracy here.
Maybe, maybe swang. But look,
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it tells you somewhat
and it was 25 degrees,
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which at first I went, Ooh,
this is in a front.
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I thought I was
already doing some cold,
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cold immersion. That's not cool.
That's just like
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regular temperature. Check that
out of the icecaps. I when
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I'm waiting to see is
like go sub sub 20 and a dropped
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by 0.1 degrees. Yeah. Right now
those are a lot
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of ice cubes in there
over 20 over 20
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keeps big fat fuckers
and I dropped about 0.1 degrees
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anyways I got into it,
It was cold
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but it wasn't in my mind
that I went, Oh, okay,
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this is not really cold
immersion. And I think it was
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one of those. And have you
been claiming
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you've been doing cold
baths and cold?
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In my mind I have. This hasn't
been like a publicly.
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I'm telling people I do cold
baths in the morning. It was like
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better than it was like
an internal hey, I'm going to do
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a call baths and I'm
this is making me feel
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good. So I gotcha. So it was
one of those
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where reality sets in.
You see it happen and you go, Oh,
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okay, maybe,
maybe this feeling of
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internal superiority
or ego arising
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where it's like, Yeah,
I can do this. And then I had to
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live hit you
in the face and goes,
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okay, maybe not so much,
but at least you. You see reality
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for what it is.
And it helped that it helped out
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this morning. So make me go,
Oh, okay, cool. You know,
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I am not doing what
I actually think I'm doing.
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If I wanted to, I'd have to do X,
Y, and Z. Am I prepared to
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put that into energy? Maybe not.
So I guess helps calibrate that.
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Have you got anything
at the moment in life
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where life has to, I guess,
showing you some reality to maybe
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where you were deviating or where
maybe your mind was
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lying to you in some way and then
life just sort of
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demonstrated to you
like, oh, no, actually
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this is what it is.
This is what's happening
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or something in between.
Or I guess. One thing I would
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say is with the podcasts,
if you'd told me
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where we're at now,
I would have hoped
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would have been further along
in terms of this. Issue
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when like when
we very first started. Yeah.
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If you tell me, you know,
you put in four years
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worth of effort, you'll have,
you know, around this many people
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listening around
this many subscribers,
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things like that.
I'd probably have said,
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yeah, I wish I,
I think I could have done
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better than that.
And that's not to say
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I don't think we're successful.
I think we're very successful
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in certain regards.
But that broad appeal
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reaching out to a larger
audience, I don't think we've
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really done that.
And just talking with
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some people about
what I do for work has has kind
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of made me think like,
yeah, maybe,
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maybe in this respect I could say
I haven't really
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like, am I a podcaster? Am I?
I'm definitely podcast. Am I
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a successful podcaster? Is that
is podcasting my job?
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I probably can't say it
as of yet. Yeah. So that's
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kind of one thing, but
na na na tha
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everything else kind of. Yeah.
Actually playing on that.
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A real. Big ones. Playing
that idea, the fact
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that I'm going to be moving
into a new place
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and I'm preparing myself
to have a dedicated studio space.
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No, it's not going to be like
one room, it's a studio.
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It'll be used for more things.
But to start saying, yes,
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I'm going to put in quite
a bit of effort and again,
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some funds to make it a studio
that I want to utilise
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for podcast to content, content
creation and the like. It kind of
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makes me feel like, okay,
I am putting another step forward
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to make sure that there is
some success. So there is effort
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being placed upon it. But I
think retrospectively, if viewed
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from the very beginning
when we started the podcasts
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out of your parents place,
if I was to think,
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Hey, where we are today,
we should be further,
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I don't know if I would have.
I still I, I really try
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to put myself in that position
when we're doing those shows.
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I would be surprised
we still kept it to this day.
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Yeah. And look, quality wise, if,
if you go on to our
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discord as well,
you see, I've posted
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a picture of the
the upgrades I made to the studio
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in my place. So it does have,
you know, proper foam panelling
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and it actually does
improve the quality of the sound.
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I hear it myself and I'm editing
in that regard. Yes. But then
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when I look at the time
period, just the four years
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and I compare what I've succeeded
or done with other things over
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four year periods,
I and I could just be me
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getting caught up
in like the metrics thing
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a little bit.
And it's not it's mostly
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just for this one
because I put this probably it's
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the comparison thing.
If I check out the book
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reviews of the value
for value show in comparison
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to the amount of time and effort
I've put into them
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and how they've compared
to this one,
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The Wolf, you know that
the return
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that the return of value
or the output or the
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the measure of success
that I've gotten from those feels
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like a lot more could
be once again,
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I've done this show
for a long time. So the learnings
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I got from this,
I could apply to them.
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So I kind of, you know, half
and the year I was coming in
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with already two years
of experience,
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the value for value
show, for example.
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So yeah, there's
those other metrics.
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I still think that
ultimately fast forward 12 years
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that this would be the
this is going to be
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the biggest show in our gallery
of shows ourselves.
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So 100%, yeah. I have an
absolutely feeling that things
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like the Valley Value
show things like the book
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review, others that we might do
will have a faster takeoff speed
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in terms of listenership,
listenership, viewership
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or people who are listening in.
But that's going to be more
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niche, more specific.
People want to kind of
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keep on doing.
It Only a certain level
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you grow to
with the value for value.
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Exactly where there's going to be
a certain level of of traction
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or level of people listening
to the broad amount of the
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of the memorials as a podcast
or the, you know, the entire
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body, call it our collection
or gallery, I don't know.
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But once people are listening
to the broadness of it,
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I think that the memorial's
main podcast
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will then become the, the bigger
thing that people
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are tuning into. But that
isn't going to be if you had to
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tell me, you know,
when we first began
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without having a full use,
I would said, I don't know.
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I don't know if it's for you
ten years, 20 years.
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I'm not entirely. So yeah,
this is one of those ones
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looking back. Yeah. If, if you'd
then told me, okay,
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this is where you're at,
you've actually got
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some people voluntarily
sending in money to you.
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Yeah, that's. That's
kind of a big deal. Yeah.
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We wouldn't have thought that
from the very beginning at all.
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And I know I'm got a bit of a
joyful question when I ask you,
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and I'll let you ponder on this
particular thought and then I'll,
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I'll kind of shame on
and then we'll want to hear
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your sounds good.
It has it been something
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as of late
or something equivalent
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where you've reconnected
with a joy from a long time ago,
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from either an old
show, old activities used to do,
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maybe from when you were young,
maybe, you know, young or old,
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whatever it may be that's coming
to your life and you've
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reconnected,
rekindled, done more of.
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So ponder on that. I'm going to
I'm going to share with you
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me and more light on that.
I don't think
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I have shared on this
particular podcast that often
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you might have. I don't know.
I enjoy cos in general,
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you know, I'm
not like an aficionado
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to a particular brand.
I'm not, you know,
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a Ferrari lover
or a mercedes lover
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or something like that.
But I enjoy them
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more than your usual individual.
Let's just say
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I would talk about cars
with a particular person
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I'd be able to talk about.
So in details,
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maybe not all the way
down to it's, you know, Bay,
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you know, gearing ratio
or something like that.
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But enough and Wheatley
I reconnected through Netflix has
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the drive to survive
which is the Formula One
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show kind of go through the
entirety of a particular season
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they make it a more of a
I don't know,
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like a dramatic show
than it actually is in real life.
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But I started watching
it a couple of months ago
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and I just one connected with it
in a big way in terms of really,
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really enjoying it too.
Took me back to
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I used to watch Formula
One racing with my dad
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quite a lot,
not every single race.
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But at the time
there was a racer called
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Juan Pablo Montoya.
So of course I connected
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because it was the first time
to the Colombians being three
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during Formula One.
And so a lot of the times
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we would watch, let's say
70% of the races
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and it would be about,
Hey, I hope this person wins.
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A lot of these races,
will watch it one in the morning,
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two in the morning.
We wake up at 10 p.m. at night
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and just sat the whole night
to watch them because we're
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in Australia.
And when the races were,
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that's just when it was
and I spent, there was that
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time and I would have been maybe
new five a year, six
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when I was watching that.
But I would also there was a game
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called Gran Triesman,
I believe it was my five
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and they had races
which you can also
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participate in. I, I played it
on the PlayStation
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and I was getting to the point
that that particular game
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I would play, you would do right.
I don't know
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if you've ever played it
before that
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particular Granturismo Yeah.
So I don't know if you remember,
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you could do it right?
It's very boring.
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20 laps, just doing laps.
I used to do
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some of the really grand.
Wasn't Grand Theft Auto.
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What was that was another racing.
Game I think on the
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need for speed.
Yes, Yes, that's correct. Yes.
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So and it was me I enjoyed
I was to play that.
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But Gran Turismo,
I took some real joy
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in doing the five hour races,
the seven hour races,
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the 12 out races.
I would do them.
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I would sit there
racing, strategizing,
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tyre heating,
gearing, brake pads. Dude,
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I would spend so much
time doing that
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and it was connected
with the fact that I was watching
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a lot of Formula
One, a lot of racing.
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And so very recently,
obviously watching Drive
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to Survive again, I went,
Oh damn, I'd really forgotten
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about this. A reason I got myself
a subscription
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so I could watch a lot
more of the Formula One races
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I found myself
just the other day.
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The race began
at three in the morning
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and I was going into gym.
I woke up extra early
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so I could, listening
to the race, watch a little bit
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while I was at the gym
and I don't know,
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it just reconnected with
this activity,
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which I really used
to enjoy watching,
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which the formula One
and obviously seeing it now from
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15 years later with a hell
of a lot more content in pods.
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It made me,
I'm not gonna like this
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obviously know what I'm doing it,
but it made me feel like,
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hey, this is a good
learning point. I remember what
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Formula One
production and content was like
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many, many years ago,
and seeing it now,
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it's like so much better.
There's a lot more details
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put together, which then know
part of it makes you go,
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Oh, could I like,
learn some things here
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to apply to the podcast?
But that's a like, you know,
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that's not even secondary.
That's like five,
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seven levels down the primary.
Joy is I had forgotten
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how much I enjoyed
just watching, racing,
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hearing engines
sort of going around,
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seeing the fights, the drama
that can happen, I guess
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through trying to solve obviously
it very directly and probably
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artificially created.
But to an actual race you see it
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happening through. I went
I had forgotten
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how much I enjoyed this.
I'm going to make some time
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to enjoy this
and not a day today.
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This happens every. Yeah, twice
a month or something like that.
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But yeah, I'm going to
I'm going to be okay
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with losing some
effective effectiveness
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or efficiency in my life
to put some energy into
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into that cause.
I really find it as
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a joyful thing. Yeah, that's been
a, a nice rekindling
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of from something
from a long time ago.
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Which is good. I think
one of the things that
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the trapped us
two could get trapped into was
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and you would have heard it
in the the latest musings episode
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where a saying
the whole point of goal
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setting for me is almost just to
try and make things fun
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and to not not get
lonely or depressed.
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And that is the most
productive thing of all for me
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is just to long term,
is just to have
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a good mental mental state and
goal setting in that
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activity of doing that
actually really helps me.
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So I think that kind of thing
is is beneficial, especially
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when you've got so much going on.
You know,
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when I first heard that,
I pondered,
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I went, You know what?
I think I've actually
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had some decreases, if anything.
Oh, yeah, a couple of things,
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just a little bit less fun.
A hand standing, for example.
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It's gone through this phase
at the moment where it's it's
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just a bit more difficult.
My risk of getting sore
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and having to take some time off,
that's not not as fun reading.
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I've kind of read
a bunch of average
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books in a row is not.
There's nothing
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that's been really stand out
but one thing
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and this will link to the next
point was dating
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and dating for me is very a
Jekyll and Hyde
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sort of experience. Yeah.
It's it's and you had quite
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a bit of dates recently
or at least playing dates.
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Oh, kind of, yes. Yeah.
And it's it's very much
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when it's going bad.
It's it's just
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I get so pissed off
my mental state goes down.
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No, no real reason,
you know, it's
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just as much about the
the girl as it is about me. But,
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you know, things outside of me
affect me. Official Be
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nice to be stoic all the time,
but I can't do that.
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But when I do have just like,
a really nice date or
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just a really nice interaction
with someone,
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my confidence levels just go.
Fucking sky. High, man.
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It's insane. And so
I had this experience
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the other day where. I.
Forget what it's like to
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be confident,
truly, you know, the the
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what is it like big dick energy,
the swagger, the
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you look at someone
and they're like, Oh, that's
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a confident dude. Yeah. And it
it doesn't the same levels.
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Yeah, exactly.
And so I went to this
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crypto event
you sent me the thing
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link to it a while ago.
It was the Delta X kind of like
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potty thing. I was like, Yeah.
Screw it, I've got some time.
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This Thursday evening
I said I wanted to go out
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to more events, stuff
like that. All right.
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I'm going to go. So I went out
to the house with wolves and I.
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Was just a. Fireman,
I think from the date
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a previous weekend or something
like that, or
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I can't even remember.
I wouldn't have been to
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too much before I walked in
and everything was. Like, just.
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Click, click, and I walked,
You have to take these elevators
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down the cliffs. I was chatting
with this guy in the elevator
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that was like some hot
girls next to me.
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They were already like,
I could get the vibes from them.
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They're like, Look at this guy.
It's just like making friends
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with everyone. So they'll walk in
and I'm and I'm like, you know.
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Shaking hands, kissing babies.
I see an old friend who I'd met
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a couple of times
at these events,
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hadn't seen him for ages,
found out he lives really close
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to me. This other guy,
I was chatting with him,
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he was kind of like
really interested in me,
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so interested
that he actually asked me
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if I wanted to go on like
a long walk with him
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on, like, a Saturday,
some time. Nice. Just like that.
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I'm kind of busy. But it was.
It was just so refreshing, man,
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just to have this confidence
all the time. And I want to know
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when you think of confidence
and your levels and the ego
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and stuff like that,
where do you think you sit
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in terms
of the general population
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and is it possible to
be at that level
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to sustain that level,
do you think, as in that
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experience that I just had,
where do you think that would
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rank on an average day for you?
Is that just an average day
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or because confidence
definitely varies
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from people to people
and there are some people you see
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who are just confident.
Yeah, it's good. All the time,
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whereas I'm very much. Not that.
Yeah, I think it differs.
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You have to split that
particular question
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into the internalisation and the
external interpretation
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of the confidence,
because in the way that
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maybe you've just said that,
I would say it for me
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it might be more regular
to look like that externally.
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Because that can be
people who project it.
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Like it's certainly only.
Their own. Externally that
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no, that's not every day.
But I can artificially
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or I can make that happen
quite often, not every time,
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but quite often externally.
I'll give you an example
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this week, like part of it,
I've always felt like, Man,
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I've just been burning
out of both hands,
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like I've just been
so many things, a lot of things
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to deal with on a work, personal
finances, perspective, madness.
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But in a lot of it, I've
been able to externally show
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a lot of confidence
just because I can either
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can or I can flip the switch
in some aspects. But internally
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it's not felt like that at all.
If I go to my nights
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for like a day to date
recently, it's
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been very much like, wow,
it's kind of I'm glad
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that I'm able to do
the things I need to get done
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through our days, but man, I'm
like struggling to be
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just like mentally
having to go out with a guy,
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like, do this.
I've got to go do that.
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I've got to go.
No real confidence
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of doing a lot of things.
So there's a difference
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between that.
But I think what you're
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talking about, that particular
experience is almost it's
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like the alignment of
external confidence
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is like firing an internal
confidence firing. Sometimes
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you get expresses, you know,
what you're thinking,
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what you're saying
and what you're doing
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is all aligned as well. That's
what I would think about
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is like a full might look.
I'd say that's kind of wasted.
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If you're not going out
to a crypto event.
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And if I'd just been at home
doing some language learning, Oh.
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Look, I know I disagree.
I think when it wherever it is,
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I, I fully cherish that. Because
even if you're me.
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It would be wasted.
It wouldn't be waste.
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I'll give an example.
I could be at home. I had just
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I'll be editing something
and just I have listened
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to some music
or just came from the gym
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just in an amazingly good mood.
And I go, Hell yeah,
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I'm just so confident.
I'm going to like Smash.
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How does edit then
do this interview,
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then do this like talk,
then I'll do this. Like just
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I'll just fly through it
without even interacting
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with other people.
So I think you can have
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that confidence and even yourself
in doing acts.
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But yeah, specifically
that feeling, I'd say it's
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so kind of rare,
maybe would happen
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once a fortnight.
It happens a lot for me
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at the gym doing gym things.
Why? Because I can.
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I don't even have
to, like, sugarcoat this.
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I think I've I've become
good enough at enough
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things that on average
I'm probably better
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than your average person
at many things. So like
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on on mere mortals perspective
I'm Mike hitting me top me
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immortal levels that just
about everything so I don't know
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if you went to the average person
I could try to hold a handstand
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for a little bit. I can do that.
So I like lift on heavy.
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I could go and do lots of
different movements. So there's
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lot of when I hit
like a really fun session
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and often session for me
at the moment, I'm slowly
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moving into a more
of a powerlifting
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session, so I'll go do
heavy deadlifts, heavy squats,
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heavy benching, I'll be doing
intervals of handsome walks
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or like handsome push ups
I might do then.
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I like a long run
and all of these things combined
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just put me in a ridiculously
confident mood, both externally
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and internally, so I can.
Maybe I'll experience
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that once a fortnight.
I mean, yeah,
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I love when that happens.
I definitely love
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that when that happens.
From a specifically
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when you're talking
about dating, I remember
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not dates,
but I remember going out,
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meeting people, seeing people,
and I remember that
440
00:21:12,311 --> 00:21:14,021
when I aligned with those two
and I was like
441
00:21:14,021 --> 00:21:16,400
certainly confident
internally confidence.
442
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,694
Lots of things happened
25% of times met. That was like
443
00:21:19,694 --> 00:21:22,571
wonderful night,
wonderful events, wonderful days
444
00:21:22,571 --> 00:21:25,866
when that happened that I like,
I would look forward to try to
445
00:21:25,866 --> 00:21:30,288
simulate that more. Yeah.
See, I can't turn it on.
446
00:21:30,288 --> 00:21:35,126
I can't predict it. Yeah. Why?
Why was it that day
447
00:21:35,126 --> 00:21:37,837
and not the day before? There's
no real difference
448
00:21:37,837 --> 00:21:42,968
between the two days
and just in my general
449
00:21:43,175 --> 00:21:46,596
disposition, no matter how good
I get at things.
450
00:21:46,596 --> 00:21:50,976
So here's an example.
When I was 21. No, even earlier.
451
00:21:50,976 --> 00:21:55,814
So I was. I was at uni,
so I must've been 20 or 19.
452
00:21:55,814 --> 00:21:59,358
I wrote this like little sheet
for myself of goals
453
00:21:59,358 --> 00:22:02,194
that I wanted to hit by 26.
I know why I chose 26,
454
00:22:02,194 --> 00:22:05,406
but yeah, it was and it was
completely arbitrary. You know,
455
00:22:05,406 --> 00:22:07,992
I want to be a millionaire.
I want to have travelled
456
00:22:07,992 --> 00:22:11,288
Latin America. I want to have
be able to speak
457
00:22:11,288 --> 00:22:12,998
another language.
I think there's something
458
00:22:12,998 --> 00:22:16,417
about playing a
playing piano decently
459
00:22:16,417 --> 00:22:18,170
because I was practising
piano a little bit.
460
00:22:18,170 --> 00:22:23,258
Then I want to, you know,
have found like an amazing girl
461
00:22:23,258 --> 00:22:27,554
or something like this.
And I look back now and I'm like,
462
00:22:27,554 --> 00:22:30,515
You know, I've done
most of those things
463
00:22:30,515 --> 00:22:35,228
a little bit later, sure,
But I've done them, has that.
464
00:22:35,228 --> 00:22:40,858
And then it made
my confidence up to 100% level.
465
00:22:40,858 --> 00:22:45,113
No, honestly,
I'm probably day to day.
466
00:22:45,196 --> 00:22:51,869
If my confidence was a
two out of ten when I was 19,
467
00:22:51,869 --> 00:22:53,538
it's probably four
out of ten now.
468
00:22:53,538 --> 00:22:55,874
Just on a day to day.
Think an average. Yeah,
469
00:22:55,874 --> 00:22:59,294
that's an average day.
I'd say four out of ten.
470
00:22:59,294 --> 00:23:01,421
I probably have
a couple of more negative
471
00:23:01,421 --> 00:23:03,298
thoughts than I do
have positive ones
472
00:23:03,298 --> 00:23:05,925
of hyping myself up
or things like that.
473
00:23:05,925 --> 00:23:10,596
It's I just go. Shit. Okay, no
matter what I do,
474
00:23:10,596 --> 00:23:13,266
this is where I think
meditation and philosophy
475
00:23:13,266 --> 00:23:16,228
comes in a bit to help
tempered the blow
476
00:23:16,228 --> 00:23:19,605
of that because. I guess.
There's no point in fucking
477
00:23:19,605 --> 00:23:23,234
spending all this time trying to
achieve these things
478
00:23:23,234 --> 00:23:28,198
because for me personally,
it doesn't result in a happier,
479
00:23:28,198 --> 00:23:32,743
more well-lived life.
It's an even if externally
480
00:23:32,743 --> 00:23:35,497
the world is a better place
and my internal world
481
00:23:35,497 --> 00:23:39,459
is shambles. I don't. Like it.
We still feel shambles.
482
00:23:39,459 --> 00:23:42,671
Yeah, I'd rather make the
the external world
483
00:23:42,671 --> 00:23:46,340
a little bit less better to make
my internal world better.
484
00:23:46,340 --> 00:23:49,385
If I could make that trade off.
Yeah, that's. I don't.
485
00:23:49,385 --> 00:23:52,847
I don't have to leave it at all.
It's, it's very much a
486
00:23:52,847 --> 00:23:58,060
it happens sometimes and all the
times it doesn't. And so Yeah.
487
00:23:58,060 --> 00:24:03,525
So going on from that. I guess is
so let's not talk about Vienna.
488
00:24:03,525 --> 00:24:05,902
You've got a new baby,
got a new baby in the works
489
00:24:05,902 --> 00:24:10,574
and you can pull the lever
to, to up their stats on some,
490
00:24:10,574 --> 00:24:14,286
some metric that you choose.
So obviously I was talking about
491
00:24:14,286 --> 00:24:18,080
confidence here, but it could be
intelligence, it could be looks,
492
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,501
it could be charm,
it could be wit, it could be
493
00:24:22,501 --> 00:24:26,047
whatever athletic ability.
And there's no trade offs.
494
00:24:26,047 --> 00:24:30,009
So you've got your crisper thing
and you've. Got that.
495
00:24:30,009 --> 00:24:34,972
What what metric, if any would
you choose to two up.
496
00:24:34,972 --> 00:24:36,849
Ooh that's interesting.
How much as well.
497
00:24:36,849 --> 00:24:39,935
It's interesting.
So while you think
498
00:24:39,935 --> 00:24:41,813
about that, I was
I was pondering this
499
00:24:41,813 --> 00:24:45,066
and, and I went okay
just for myself. Let's say
500
00:24:45,066 --> 00:24:47,318
I did have the lever
crank up the confidence
501
00:24:47,318 --> 00:24:51,698
to eight out of ten daily. Sure.
That would be a whole
502
00:24:51,698 --> 00:24:53,909
lot of good things
that come from that. Internally,
503
00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:56,994
I would feel better.
I would certainly be
504
00:24:56,994 --> 00:25:00,457
more adventurous with certain
aspects in terms
505
00:25:00,457 --> 00:25:04,461
of telling a risque joke,
trying out a new
506
00:25:04,461 --> 00:25:09,132
and just trying out new things,
not being afraid to fail
507
00:25:09,132 --> 00:25:14,136
and look silly. But in terms
of the ego, I, I could see that
508
00:25:14,136 --> 00:25:17,307
having a profound impact on me
being a bit more arrogant
509
00:25:17,307 --> 00:25:22,604
and potentially being a bit
of a douchebag. So I can't
510
00:25:22,604 --> 00:25:26,900
if I could pull that lever,
I'm not sure I'd want to not sure
511
00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:29,027
be a great thing.
And if I did it would,
512
00:25:29,027 --> 00:25:31,445
it would be a little bit good.
Maybe instead of cranking
513
00:25:31,445 --> 00:25:33,365
up tonight at ten, maybe
just make it five,
514
00:25:33,365 --> 00:25:34,907
five or something. Okay.
Yeah, like,
515
00:25:34,907 --> 00:25:37,451
just a little bit better,
but not too much also. Yeah.
516
00:25:37,451 --> 00:25:40,163
So that so that
those potential negatives
517
00:25:40,163 --> 00:25:45,376
are not going to be
completely life altering. Yeah.
518
00:25:45,376 --> 00:25:47,378
The only thing that
would come to mind
519
00:25:47,378 --> 00:25:49,548
in amongst many things
and I think you could,
520
00:25:49,548 --> 00:25:51,967
you could make
good calls for a lot,
521
00:25:51,967 --> 00:25:54,344
but then equally find
a lot of negatives around a lot
522
00:25:54,344 --> 00:25:59,307
of other things.
I think let's say I'd crank the,
523
00:25:59,307 --> 00:26:02,894
the lever on like the quality
of perseverance
524
00:26:02,894 --> 00:26:05,020
but not all the way.
Not ten out of ten. Yeah.
525
00:26:05,020 --> 00:26:07,691
Although as you go on, Monk.
But yeah, I'm going, I'm going
526
00:26:07,691 --> 00:26:09,442
like seven out of ten.
If I was like seven,
527
00:26:09,442 --> 00:26:12,612
eight out of ten perseverance
level someone. So it would be,
528
00:26:12,612 --> 00:26:13,571
you know,
if you could give them it
529
00:26:13,571 --> 00:26:18,492
by default, whatever task
or thought they go towards it.
530
00:26:18,492 --> 00:26:21,621
I guess it blends with self
like a discipline mindset,
531
00:26:21,621 --> 00:26:25,875
but that's more of a ability
less than the quality, I guess.
532
00:26:25,875 --> 00:26:29,796
So that a quality of
of perseverance by default,
533
00:26:29,796 --> 00:26:32,382
I go, Yeah, I would want them
to have that.
534
00:26:32,382 --> 00:26:35,175
I guess if I was thinking
about myself or another person,
535
00:26:35,175 --> 00:26:36,803
if you had a high
level of perseverance,
536
00:26:36,803 --> 00:26:40,390
like a day to day,
you would be less inclined to
537
00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:44,310
be dissuaded by something else,
whether it's head don't really,
538
00:26:44,310 --> 00:26:47,980
whether it's because you want to
just follow somebody else.
539
00:26:47,980 --> 00:26:52,443
If you persevere with the
the right path, then sounds to me
540
00:26:52,443 --> 00:26:53,737
like you'd go well.
So I'd probably say
541
00:26:53,737 --> 00:26:55,989
perseverance as a
as a. Qualifier. But I think
542
00:26:55,989 --> 00:26:58,657
you can have it. You can have
some troubles if you were to say,
543
00:26:58,657 --> 00:27:01,118
go all the way
to ten out of ten for. Sure,
544
00:27:01,118 --> 00:27:05,164
because then you could have the
ultramarathon on who just
545
00:27:05,164 --> 00:27:09,294
keeps going and going
and going to destroy themselves
546
00:27:09,294 --> 00:27:13,213
and then run even further
because fuck it, I haven't gone
547
00:27:13,213 --> 00:27:17,134
far enough. I can do more and
yeah, it's probably not
548
00:27:17,134 --> 00:27:20,305
a good for you. Yeah.
If anything, I'd say perseverance
549
00:27:20,305 --> 00:27:24,768
to a certain level, you know,
where where is the more joy
550
00:27:24,768 --> 00:27:29,355
to be found
in being a mere mortal or being
551
00:27:29,355 --> 00:27:33,526
the top the world
champion at something
552
00:27:33,526 --> 00:27:36,820
with more joy found? Yeah.
You know, I don't. Know man
553
00:27:36,820 --> 00:27:40,784
had an IT because.
I kind of go that maybe
554
00:27:40,866 --> 00:27:45,913
maybe there is some
extreme short lived joy
555
00:27:45,913 --> 00:27:50,417
that is found in the
absolute top individuals
556
00:27:50,501 --> 00:27:53,003
but then is followed or preceded
by a lot of suffering
557
00:27:53,003 --> 00:27:57,008
and negativity and expectations.
Whereas a mere mortal
558
00:27:57,008 --> 00:28:03,263
with that level of expectations,
yes, is not as high a peak,
559
00:28:03,263 --> 00:28:07,685
but there may be more
continuous joy to be had
560
00:28:07,685 --> 00:28:10,939
and less suffering
because expectations being set
561
00:28:10,939 --> 00:28:13,607
to a different level.
So, you know, the more
562
00:28:13,607 --> 00:28:17,820
I think about it, it I go, yeah,
I think the quality
563
00:28:17,820 --> 00:28:20,740
would have to be
something that helps
564
00:28:20,740 --> 00:28:23,410
set expectations
to an adequate level
565
00:28:23,410 --> 00:28:25,662
where someone can, you know,
go off to something
566
00:28:25,662 --> 00:28:29,499
but not to the such
an extreme that it precedes.
567
00:28:29,499 --> 00:28:31,710
And maybe after
whatever is achieved
568
00:28:31,710 --> 00:28:33,252
or action is taken,
there's another
569
00:28:33,252 --> 00:28:36,338
like bout of suffering. Yeah,
I was thinking about this for
570
00:28:36,338 --> 00:28:40,719
so in the case example I gave
it was for a baby. It's somewhat,
571
00:28:40,719 --> 00:28:45,097
it's a completely new form.
There's, there's no
572
00:28:45,097 --> 00:28:49,184
and you're just
shifting one lever. I think it,
573
00:28:49,184 --> 00:28:52,730
I wouldn't be comfortable
doing that for anything because
574
00:28:52,730 --> 00:28:55,191
even all the best ones
you think you know, what's
575
00:28:55,191 --> 00:28:57,986
one of the best
metrics of success to life high
576
00:28:57,986 --> 00:29:02,865
IQ that that really equates to
to better outcomes.
577
00:29:02,865 --> 00:29:06,827
It also equates to
more neuroticism. And if if you
578
00:29:06,827 --> 00:29:09,663
go into the high
end of the scale, depression
579
00:29:09,663 --> 00:29:12,083
and loneliness, some of the most
like brilliant people
580
00:29:12,083 --> 00:29:15,795
have miserable lives, and I think
that's above average proportions
581
00:29:15,795 --> 00:29:18,088
for that as well. So it's like,
well, fuck, okay,
582
00:29:18,088 --> 00:29:20,048
I don't want that
for my kid, you know?
583
00:29:20,048 --> 00:29:22,301
Do I want to up the confidence?
Okay, well then what
584
00:29:22,301 --> 00:29:26,472
if they're too confident?
So do I want to up the. You know,
585
00:29:26,472 --> 00:29:30,393
I'm trying to think of a metric
that is just universally good
586
00:29:30,393 --> 00:29:35,230
with no downsides. And I.
I'm struggling to think
587
00:29:35,230 --> 00:29:36,982
of something, maybe.
Something like height.
588
00:29:36,982 --> 00:29:39,277
Maybe, maybe not,
maybe not in the direct
589
00:29:39,277 --> 00:29:43,239
linkage to a quality.
But if I had to postulate,
590
00:29:43,239 --> 00:29:48,744
what you would try to do is
whatever optimises for
591
00:29:48,787 --> 00:29:52,414
an individual to socialise
with their community
592
00:29:52,414 --> 00:29:58,587
at a maximum level, because one
being an even that special.
593
00:29:58,587 --> 00:30:00,339
Because you can be
over socialised,
594
00:30:00,339 --> 00:30:03,968
I think you can have
be two in tune with other people
595
00:30:03,968 --> 00:30:07,555
to empathetic and it's
and it destroys you, it breaks
596
00:30:07,555 --> 00:30:11,226
your heart. You, you know,
you start having to try
597
00:30:11,226 --> 00:30:13,603
to protect everyone
because you're
598
00:30:13,603 --> 00:30:16,064
looking out for the,
the little people all the time.
599
00:30:16,064 --> 00:30:19,567
So I think you can take
everything too far.
600
00:30:19,567 --> 00:30:23,613
And that's why it would be
I'd crank the lever of maybe,
601
00:30:23,613 --> 00:30:26,199
you know, Vienna after a year
and you've probably
602
00:30:26,199 --> 00:30:29,243
started to notice maybe some
characteristics of her.
603
00:30:29,243 --> 00:30:31,119
And maybe it's more apparent
when in the three
604
00:30:31,119 --> 00:30:33,248
or four years old
and then you like, okay,
605
00:30:33,248 --> 00:30:35,333
this little lever here,
I can see this behaviour.
606
00:30:35,333 --> 00:30:37,544
Maybe like. A beneficial.
Yeah, just,
607
00:30:37,544 --> 00:30:40,838
just a, just a little.
And that's why
608
00:30:40,838 --> 00:30:42,507
because I can suddenly
think of people I've
609
00:30:42,507 --> 00:30:47,886
met in my life where they've got
that they're an arsehole,
610
00:30:47,886 --> 00:30:49,513
they're just like,
complete dickhead.
611
00:30:49,513 --> 00:30:52,683
But if you could just
crank down the ego a little bit,
612
00:30:52,683 --> 00:30:57,020
or maybe their intelligence and,
and that would just kind of
613
00:30:57,020 --> 00:30:59,273
solve their problems
and that actually being okay.
614
00:30:59,273 --> 00:31:02,568
I think one, one piece
that I would say I really
615
00:31:02,568 --> 00:31:07,240
What about yourself? If you could
crank a lever, what would you do?
616
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,911
Anything. Anything that
would be nice for for old.
617
00:31:11,911 --> 00:31:15,373
For old Ronnie. No, I wouldn't,
I wouldn't any leave him.
618
00:31:15,373 --> 00:31:18,459
I'd leave him all of this.
I think there would be.
619
00:31:18,459 --> 00:31:23,839
Why is because now,
after many years of
620
00:31:23,839 --> 00:31:27,175
working, inspecting,
retrospective, whatever you
621
00:31:27,175 --> 00:31:31,513
want to call it, I've put myself
in many positions where I enjoy
622
00:31:31,513 --> 00:31:36,810
the things I do. I've managed my
my feelings both on rational,
623
00:31:36,810 --> 00:31:40,147
conscious, subconscious
emotional levels. If I was to
624
00:31:40,147 --> 00:31:42,442
shift something,
what I would just
625
00:31:42,442 --> 00:31:44,234
feel like it was. I have to put
a lot of other effort
626
00:31:44,234 --> 00:31:46,570
to just get back to a place
where I could manage.
627
00:31:46,570 --> 00:31:48,948
I feel so yes,
I could say to you, Well,
628
00:31:48,948 --> 00:31:52,285
crank discipline then.
Crank Yeah. Can't whatever.
629
00:31:52,285 --> 00:31:55,121
But it would that would happen.
Is it now since myself
630
00:31:55,121 --> 00:31:56,873
that I need to put
quite a lot of effort
631
00:31:56,873 --> 00:31:58,458
into getting back
to a manageable level.
632
00:31:58,458 --> 00:32:00,585
Because if I stay disciplined
then that's just me.
633
00:32:00,585 --> 00:32:02,461
I'm going to get myself
really injured really quickly
634
00:32:02,461 --> 00:32:03,922
because I said I'm going
to do 20 kilometres,
635
00:32:03,922 --> 00:32:05,964
I'm going to do it no matter
if I enjoy myself. Yeah, right.
636
00:32:05,964 --> 00:32:09,426
So there's that would be a
a new amount of effort
637
00:32:09,426 --> 00:32:12,512
that I would have to go on,
set myself to manage myself
638
00:32:12,512 --> 00:32:15,098
and balance myself. Would you
change anything? Would you
639
00:32:15,098 --> 00:32:18,519
shift a lever there some way?
Yeah. Just the confidence up
640
00:32:18,519 --> 00:32:23,316
a little bit I think would help.
But anything else? It's dicey.
641
00:32:23,316 --> 00:32:25,777
So I see that too. Yeah.
To manipulate
642
00:32:25,777 --> 00:32:27,153
that and change that.
Yeah, it's just.
643
00:32:27,153 --> 00:32:31,449
Just saying what? How would I be?
How would I come across if I.
644
00:32:31,449 --> 00:32:34,451
Yeah. Neuroticism. I'm probably
a little bit higher on that scale
645
00:32:34,451 --> 00:32:38,330
than, than most people. If I,
if I put that down a little bit,
646
00:32:38,330 --> 00:32:41,500
how would that impact
other aspects of my life? Would I
647
00:32:41,500 --> 00:32:45,380
then start to become less
introspective? Would that be
648
00:32:45,380 --> 00:32:48,007
a good thing? I'm not sure,
because being introspective
649
00:32:48,007 --> 00:32:52,053
has helped me a lot of times with
realising I've got a problem
650
00:32:52,053 --> 00:32:55,263
in this certain case, okay,
how can I go about solving it?
651
00:32:55,263 --> 00:32:59,394
You know, the worst thing about
being an arsehole is you
652
00:32:59,394 --> 00:33:01,395
probably don't realise
you're an arsehole.
653
00:33:01,395 --> 00:33:03,105
And so that's, that's like
the main problem
654
00:33:03,105 --> 00:33:04,898
because if you did
then you'd go and fix it.
655
00:33:04,898 --> 00:33:07,567
Yeah, well, suddenly
the biggest arseholes I've met
656
00:33:07,567 --> 00:33:10,654
have thought they were top shit.
And don't realise that they're
657
00:33:10,654 --> 00:33:14,200
actually not. Yes. Yes, correct.
The Well speaking of that,
658
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,369
I just often leave is
if I could pull a small lever for
659
00:33:17,369 --> 00:33:19,329
my child is that
she's almost at the
660
00:33:19,329 --> 00:33:23,459
point of doing a plant. So
I didn't think this
661
00:33:23,459 --> 00:33:24,876
I honestly didn't
think the babies went
662
00:33:24,876 --> 00:33:27,880
through this particular phase.
But they can only plant
663
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,798
on the hands and knees right on
the hands and knees,
664
00:33:29,798 --> 00:33:31,925
and they rock. However,
I didn't realise that
665
00:33:31,925 --> 00:33:35,637
they also go into push up mode.
So they do push up mode. Okay.
666
00:33:35,637 --> 00:33:38,266
But the is doing it with her legs
really spread out
667
00:33:38,266 --> 00:33:39,933
really quite wide. Yeah.
And then she'll
668
00:33:39,933 --> 00:33:42,519
lean forward on her arms
and lift her legs up.
669
00:33:42,519 --> 00:33:46,941
It's because I had so, so heavy.
So she's basically balancing for
670
00:33:46,941 --> 00:33:50,111
quarter of a second
until hands just up and I'm like,
671
00:33:50,111 --> 00:33:53,030
damn, I'm not even doing that.
So if I could pull the lever
672
00:33:53,030 --> 00:33:54,990
so she could hold it
for 2 seconds, that's actually
673
00:33:54,990 --> 00:33:57,117
doing like plants
at five months old.
674
00:33:57,117 --> 00:34:00,704
Hold the literal lever of
heavy ahead. I mean, shit.
675
00:34:00,704 --> 00:34:04,041
Yeah, maybe that would be
a good one, right? Maybe a head.
676
00:34:04,041 --> 00:34:06,877
Would certainly. Improve.
I can't. Going to pull the lever
677
00:34:06,877 --> 00:34:09,797
like my. Handstands
would make my handstands better.
678
00:34:09,797 --> 00:34:12,257
Lower centre of gravity,
make my planche is way
679
00:34:12,257 --> 00:34:14,635
easier, that's for sure. Yeah.
Probably wrecked
680
00:34:14,635 --> 00:34:16,179
my shoulders though.
So you should probably
681
00:34:16,179 --> 00:34:19,014
just put like a like a
plated weight around your head,
682
00:34:19,014 --> 00:34:21,099
just like a painkiller
weight just around it
683
00:34:21,099 --> 00:34:25,771
and stabilise it.
Yeah, that maybe.
684
00:34:25,855 --> 00:34:28,356
All right, last one. Let's talk
about some languages. What one.
685
00:34:28,356 --> 00:34:30,985
Talk about language
learning. So language.
686
00:34:30,985 --> 00:34:34,030
Do you know the difference
between L Alderton, e
687
00:34:34,030 --> 00:34:38,034
le Alderton.
L, or then LA or then?
688
00:34:38,034 --> 00:34:41,204
Yeah, in Spanish. Now.
So this was one that came across
689
00:34:41,204 --> 00:34:45,875
the other day. And so once
fluent Spanish speak up,
690
00:34:45,875 --> 00:34:50,128
although not native. Maybe.
Not fluent, I don't know.
691
00:34:50,128 --> 00:34:53,632
I don't know how to describe you.
You're just a hard. One would be.
692
00:34:53,632 --> 00:34:58,971
I'm a native speaker with limited
word language like native speaker
693
00:34:58,971 --> 00:35:02,391
to like a 12 year old.
Yeah, I'll be.
694
00:35:02,391 --> 00:35:05,561
Pretty good. Pretty good.
So and I speak Spanish
695
00:35:05,561 --> 00:35:08,356
relatively well. And I was
just researching this
696
00:35:08,356 --> 00:35:09,940
because I was starting to do
some Portuguese,
697
00:35:09,940 --> 00:35:14,277
so I was actually getting into it
and I was just looking at
698
00:35:14,277 --> 00:35:15,612
what are
some of the basic things?
699
00:35:15,612 --> 00:35:17,614
Okay, they've got
the masculine feminine,
700
00:35:17,614 --> 00:35:21,619
very similar to Spanish. Sure,
there's a couple of like
701
00:35:21,619 --> 00:35:23,788
false friends
type of things there.
702
00:35:23,788 --> 00:35:28,668
So the most annoying one, right?
So if you're learning Spanish,
703
00:35:28,668 --> 00:35:32,630
everyone makes this mistake
embarrassed over you think,
704
00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:35,132
Oh, and baseada.
That sounds a lot
705
00:35:35,132 --> 00:35:37,844
like embarrassed.
There's not many words that sound
706
00:35:37,844 --> 00:35:41,806
very as similar as that. Yeah.
So you start using Estoy
707
00:35:41,806 --> 00:35:45,643
and by Rosalba. I'm embarrassed.
You think you're saying
708
00:35:45,643 --> 00:35:48,436
wrong? Wrong.
You say I'm pregnant
709
00:35:48,436 --> 00:35:51,440
and you said wrong story.
Embarrassed? I don't know.
710
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:57,070
Yes. Yeah, that. Doesn't mean.
Pregnant. And. And so what I was,
711
00:35:57,070 --> 00:35:59,782
I was looking this up
and then in Portuguese
712
00:35:59,782 --> 00:36:02,117
they've got another one
very similar. I can't remember
713
00:36:02,117 --> 00:36:04,244
exactly what it was because I
they just looked at it
714
00:36:04,244 --> 00:36:05,621
and I didn't hear
the pronunciation
715
00:36:05,621 --> 00:36:08,748
which is come to an exact
very similar site
716
00:36:08,748 --> 00:36:12,003
and but a shadow or two
or something like that.
717
00:36:12,003 --> 00:36:15,255
And it means confused. So now
there's like
718
00:36:15,255 --> 00:36:17,425
three different words.
And so a false friend
719
00:36:17,425 --> 00:36:21,219
for those who don't know
is basically it's a word
720
00:36:21,219 --> 00:36:24,014
in another language
that seems very similar to what
721
00:36:24,014 --> 00:36:27,851
a word in your language,
which happens a lot of times
722
00:36:27,851 --> 00:36:30,688
different different there
in Spanish. Okay.
723
00:36:30,688 --> 00:36:33,065
It means the same thing
a false friend is
724
00:36:33,065 --> 00:36:36,235
when it doesn't mean
and it's actually it's it's
725
00:36:36,235 --> 00:36:38,362
switching you up.
It's a it's a friend
726
00:36:38,362 --> 00:36:43,576
who is not helpful. And yes, I
came across that. And so
727
00:36:43,576 --> 00:36:47,329
just to answer that
and then it's like
728
00:36:47,329 --> 00:36:52,126
the order of nature or a pattern.
It's an order of lot order
729
00:36:52,126 --> 00:36:55,755
then is an order.
I want you to go do that.
730
00:36:55,755 --> 00:36:58,465
Know This is. I thought
that was roughly what it was,
731
00:36:58,465 --> 00:36:59,800
but I was like,
oh I don't actually.
732
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,887
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So I guess maybe LA or then is
733
00:37:02,887 --> 00:37:04,722
when you actually
ordering something.
734
00:37:04,722 --> 00:37:08,141
L Auden is it's, it's something
that it's like a lot it
735
00:37:08,141 --> 00:37:10,186
then it's a directive.
L or then it's when it's already
736
00:37:10,186 --> 00:37:14,356
there as an order. Yeah. Yeah.
Or yeah. Or it's, it's more
737
00:37:14,356 --> 00:37:17,275
yeah they're different things
so yes it'd be like comparing
738
00:37:17,275 --> 00:37:21,489
pattern versus request
the completely different and Yes.
739
00:37:21,489 --> 00:37:23,532
So I just came across that
and I went okay there's no way
740
00:37:23,532 --> 00:37:27,327
I want this one. Probably doesn't
know this one,
741
00:37:27,327 --> 00:37:30,331
the one you're teaching
Vienna Spanish. What,
742
00:37:30,331 --> 00:37:32,250
What Spanish level director
and she's going to get to
743
00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:35,253
because she's got you.
She's got obviously the grammar,
744
00:37:35,253 --> 00:37:40,048
so that that'll help a lot.
But you. Your partner,
745
00:37:40,048 --> 00:37:42,425
I'm not sure
how her Spanish is going
746
00:37:42,425 --> 00:37:44,804
if she's going to ever
get to a level where she's that
747
00:37:44,804 --> 00:37:48,431
she'll be speaking in a rational.
What what do you reckon
748
00:37:48,431 --> 00:37:52,728
Vienna Spanish will come out.
Like if she doesn't, you would be
749
00:37:52,728 --> 00:37:55,356
it would be in a lower
order than mine,
750
00:37:55,356 --> 00:37:58,900
because it's unlikely
that we will be speaking such a
751
00:37:58,900 --> 00:38:02,737
conversational tone at home.
It'll be
752
00:38:02,737 --> 00:38:06,867
words with some linkages,
and usually with languages
753
00:38:06,867 --> 00:38:09,619
she probably understand
more than you'll actually speak.
754
00:38:09,619 --> 00:38:11,163
Realistically, I think that
she'll be able
755
00:38:11,163 --> 00:38:14,500
to read some Spanish,
understand Spanish,
756
00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:16,751
but when it comes into
the conversational might know,
757
00:38:16,751 --> 00:38:19,255
unless she's then put effort
to get into the conversation
758
00:38:19,255 --> 00:38:23,467
and I could see her understanding
manners. Yes. Galicia Right.
759
00:38:23,467 --> 00:38:28,306
Things hands, feet, head, but not
a conversation in Spanish.
760
00:38:28,306 --> 00:38:30,307
I think that'll be
a little bit less so
761
00:38:30,307 --> 00:38:32,559
unless depending on
how she grows up,
762
00:38:32,559 --> 00:38:35,313
how often she spends time with
my family director,
763
00:38:35,313 --> 00:38:37,481
and then maybe she will pick up
more of a conversational is.
764
00:38:37,481 --> 00:38:39,483
Kind of asks,
Were you planning on
765
00:38:39,483 --> 00:38:42,445
speaking Spanish with her?
So Pete Smithson
766
00:38:42,445 --> 00:38:44,572
been on the podcast
bunch of times. He only speaks
767
00:38:44,572 --> 00:38:47,824
Portuguese at home
with his family and then his kids
768
00:38:47,824 --> 00:38:49,869
learn English, obviously
in kindergarten,
769
00:38:49,869 --> 00:38:52,746
things like that. Were you
planning on doing
770
00:38:52,746 --> 00:38:55,875
that as well, Spanish at home.
Or No, definitely not.
771
00:38:55,875 --> 00:38:59,170
I think I would.
So most definitely,
772
00:38:59,170 --> 00:39:01,380
although we haven't like
talked about it, super deep
773
00:39:01,380 --> 00:39:03,257
English is going to be
the predominant thing. French.
774
00:39:03,257 --> 00:39:08,012
I well in a lot of day to day
items I do with her
775
00:39:08,012 --> 00:39:09,847
at the moment.
I'll go through three
776
00:39:09,847 --> 00:39:12,807
different languages with her,
so I'll routinely do this thing
777
00:39:12,807 --> 00:39:16,561
with her of like head
and shoulders, knees, toes, feet.
778
00:39:16,561 --> 00:39:19,190
I'll go through that in English
and in Spanish. When debating
779
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:21,900
in French talking. Right.
Nine months, 12 months.
780
00:39:21,900 --> 00:39:24,695
She's sort of like I say, quiet.
So yeah, like it's still a
781
00:39:24,695 --> 00:39:29,909
few months away. Yeah,
of I go through like
782
00:39:29,909 --> 00:39:32,869
body parts and things
in a day to day basis
783
00:39:32,869 --> 00:39:34,914
and all three languages,
but still in
784
00:39:34,914 --> 00:39:36,456
a conversational way.
I don't think that
785
00:39:36,456 --> 00:39:39,335
there would be,
you know, an adherence like, I'm
786
00:39:39,335 --> 00:39:40,960
only going to speak Spanish,
I'm only going to speak
787
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,007
French. Nah, not at all.
I would more say to know
788
00:39:45,007 --> 00:39:49,010
to get an understanding
of some of the languages, to see
789
00:39:49,010 --> 00:39:51,347
interesting things,
but never to the point
790
00:39:51,347 --> 00:39:52,931
that's going to
be conversational.
791
00:39:52,931 --> 00:39:54,891
And I would also say
that it's because I'm also not
792
00:39:54,891 --> 00:39:57,811
learning languages to get to a
conversational level. The French,
793
00:39:57,811 --> 00:40:01,690
I'm not trying to get to natural
conversational language to that,
794
00:40:01,690 --> 00:40:04,235
but to like a good accent
that I can understand things
795
00:40:04,235 --> 00:40:06,027
definitely not with Japanese,
definitely not
796
00:40:06,027 --> 00:40:07,987
with future things.
So that's not something
797
00:40:07,987 --> 00:40:10,782
I will ever get to. It's if I'm
getting there, you better believe
798
00:40:10,782 --> 00:40:12,952
I'm not going to be
exploiting that to my kid.
799
00:40:12,952 --> 00:40:15,246
So, you know,
there's aspects to that.
800
00:40:15,246 --> 00:40:18,081
One thing, though, similar
that you were just saying about,
801
00:40:18,081 --> 00:40:20,041
you know, something
that's unfriendly across
802
00:40:20,041 --> 00:40:23,295
different languages. What I found
is the use of the letter R
803
00:40:23,295 --> 00:40:25,797
in different languages.
That's one thing that's
804
00:40:25,797 --> 00:40:29,135
a little bit annoying.
So you know, learning to say
805
00:40:29,135 --> 00:40:32,137
in South African, in Afrikaans
versus in French
806
00:40:32,137 --> 00:40:34,931
is in Russian versus
in Spanish for English,
807
00:40:34,931 --> 00:40:37,601
all different and all in like,
you know, a different part
808
00:40:37,601 --> 00:40:41,355
of your mouth back to front.
Yeah, that is not annoying.
809
00:40:41,355 --> 00:40:46,193
It is just that messes me up hard
when I'm going through
810
00:40:46,193 --> 00:40:48,987
different languages. You know,
I know some things in Afrikaans
811
00:40:48,987 --> 00:40:53,451
when I say that sometimes
to someone, it'll be I'm using
812
00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:56,286
like the French,
obviously the Afrikaans
813
00:40:56,286 --> 00:41:00,039
and then now I'm doing Japanese.
There's some letters that just
814
00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:02,333
disappear altogether,
and I'm not really
815
00:41:02,333 --> 00:41:05,086
going to. I just. I just fuck up.
I just like, man, I'm
816
00:41:05,086 --> 00:41:06,880
not getting it some
I mean, another language
817
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,965
still, or my odds are in a
different letter.
818
00:41:08,965 --> 00:41:11,302
So that's definitely
I found something to like
819
00:41:11,302 --> 00:41:13,679
stitch me up quite often.
Portuguese fucking bitch for it
820
00:41:13,679 --> 00:41:17,599
so far. Because with the double
r instead of really chilling
821
00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:21,769
like cultural in and in Spanish,
which would be like
822
00:41:21,769 --> 00:41:23,646
the little dog, I guess
something like that
823
00:41:23,646 --> 00:41:27,443
dog is catchall. Catcher or.
Catcher, the exact
824
00:41:27,443 --> 00:41:29,695
same spelling, but.
It's what is the op place
825
00:41:29,695 --> 00:41:32,405
like in the middle of your mouth
when they say like.
826
00:41:32,405 --> 00:41:37,411
When it's double like that,
there's no it's it's or catcher
827
00:41:37,411 --> 00:41:43,708
or it's more like a whole or
in in German it's weird weird.
828
00:41:43,708 --> 00:41:48,130
So it's like it air it's like a
kind of ear sound. If.
829
00:41:48,130 --> 00:41:51,342
Dependent depends on the.
In Afrikaans like he had
830
00:41:51,342 --> 00:41:54,719
he has this and it's like
that's on the back.
831
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,304
Right It's completely.
Different than French.
832
00:41:56,304 --> 00:41:58,516
It's it's slightly even further
in the back of your mouth
833
00:41:58,516 --> 00:42:00,726
And I'm like, man,
what is it different?
834
00:42:00,726 --> 00:42:03,561
And then honestly, I'm pretty,
pretty sure that I fucked up
835
00:42:03,561 --> 00:42:07,983
the Russian every single time.
Like Privett. I don't, I,
836
00:42:07,983 --> 00:42:09,485
I honestly don't know
how to pronounce that.
837
00:42:09,485 --> 00:42:12,028
Even if I listen to it on
I Google translate,
838
00:42:12,028 --> 00:42:15,240
it's still not right.
Yeah, man, this guy
839
00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:17,326
that stitches me up for sure.
I was going to say with Vienna,
840
00:42:17,326 --> 00:42:19,577
if you do want a tutor,
I'm more than happy to help.
841
00:42:19,577 --> 00:42:21,956
300 bucks an hour. But, you know.
I mean, I've got
842
00:42:21,956 --> 00:42:24,750
I've got my parents speak.
That's that's better. Spanish.
843
00:42:24,750 --> 00:42:27,710
So that's that makes right when.
I got the free rights.
844
00:42:27,710 --> 00:42:29,755
The free right.
How about for language
845
00:42:29,755 --> 00:42:33,132
learning just in general.
What's your you you said you were
846
00:42:33,132 --> 00:42:34,802
struggling with that.
What do you excel at
847
00:42:34,802 --> 00:42:38,972
and are there other things
you really suck up. To suck at?
848
00:42:38,972 --> 00:42:41,266
Speaking like
a conversational level,
849
00:42:41,266 --> 00:42:43,184
back and forth? Is there
is there a reason
850
00:42:43,184 --> 00:42:45,103
for that? There is.
I don't do it enough.
851
00:42:45,103 --> 00:42:46,855
Yeah, that's definitely.
What the reason is.
852
00:42:46,855 --> 00:42:48,983
The reason that you don't
want to make an ass
853
00:42:48,983 --> 00:42:50,943
out of yourself is the reason
you don't want
854
00:42:50,943 --> 00:42:54,697
to spend the time trying to find
someone to speak with
855
00:42:54,697 --> 00:42:58,617
is the reason you actually don't
care for that. You know what
856
00:42:58,617 --> 00:43:01,036
looks like the deeper reasoning?
Yeah, I think deeper reason is
857
00:43:01,036 --> 00:43:03,956
I'm not willing to put that
amount of energy
858
00:43:03,956 --> 00:43:07,751
to get to that point.
Making them myself.
859
00:43:07,835 --> 00:43:11,505
Maybe not so much, maybe more
that I don't care
860
00:43:11,505 --> 00:43:14,132
to get to that level
of conversational. If I one of
861
00:43:14,132 --> 00:43:16,217
my key things,
I guess, with languages
862
00:43:16,217 --> 00:43:19,471
is to understand meaning
and contextualisation.
863
00:43:19,471 --> 00:43:21,639
And I can do that without
the conversational aspect of it.
864
00:43:21,639 --> 00:43:24,768
Like I can know
theoretically what it should be
865
00:43:24,768 --> 00:43:26,519
without me myself
having to speak it
866
00:43:26,519 --> 00:43:28,480
and then get to that
deeper context without knowing
867
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,775
the deeper context,
I guess upper level. So
868
00:43:31,775 --> 00:43:35,612
I guess I haven't been
as fascinated with that. So that
869
00:43:35,612 --> 00:43:37,405
probably feels it. And yeah,
just from a
870
00:43:37,405 --> 00:43:40,242
energy time perspective, I go,
I'm not willing to put
871
00:43:40,242 --> 00:43:42,827
that extra hour or 2 hours
a week to do that
872
00:43:42,827 --> 00:43:44,621
to get to that level
because it's just not
873
00:43:44,621 --> 00:43:46,914
valuable enough to whatever I'm
planning to
874
00:43:46,914 --> 00:43:49,626
think to through that. So
but then obviously that's
875
00:43:49,626 --> 00:43:51,295
the weakness.
Just conversationally
876
00:43:51,295 --> 00:43:53,380
with any language.
So just not putting
877
00:43:53,380 --> 00:43:56,257
myself down to that path.
But then in a strength.
878
00:43:56,257 --> 00:43:59,302
How about for how about okay,
yeah, sorry.
879
00:43:59,302 --> 00:44:00,637
The only thing I can say
about them from a strength
880
00:44:00,637 --> 00:44:04,016
perspective is just my record
on words, just like
881
00:44:04,016 --> 00:44:07,268
individual word.
But I'm good with with recall of
882
00:44:07,268 --> 00:44:09,646
just about many,
many, many things. Yeah. Okay.
883
00:44:09,646 --> 00:44:11,898
So what would be in terms
of what you're
884
00:44:11,898 --> 00:44:13,567
actually trying to do
with the languages
885
00:44:13,567 --> 00:44:15,068
in your learning,
What what would be
886
00:44:15,068 --> 00:44:18,280
the thing that you suck
at the most out of out of that.
887
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,532
So not, not obviously with a
you're not trying
888
00:44:20,532 --> 00:44:23,077
to be conversational
so it's not that you're
889
00:44:23,077 --> 00:44:26,246
sucking at it,
you're just not doing it.
890
00:44:26,246 --> 00:44:28,831
As in like, what do I suck
of the thing that I'm actually
891
00:44:28,831 --> 00:44:30,458
trying to do?
Yeah, Yeah. Like what?
892
00:44:30,458 --> 00:44:32,378
What do you find hardest
about trying to learn
893
00:44:32,378 --> 00:44:41,804
French or Japanese? Mm.
I don't know. I probably say,
894
00:44:41,804 --> 00:44:44,014
well I won't, I won't say.
That's been that much
895
00:44:44,014 --> 00:44:47,809
difficulty in French.
So spending the time definitely.
896
00:44:47,809 --> 00:44:51,646
The challenge I'm finding in
Japanese is a character
897
00:44:51,646 --> 00:44:55,608
materialisation
materialisation to or mapping it
898
00:44:55,608 --> 00:44:58,070
to like the pronunciation
that's been really hot
899
00:44:58,070 --> 00:45:00,530
so that'll be fine.
Even not even grammar of.
900
00:45:00,530 --> 00:45:03,742
No, not really Well
in Japanese for grammar
901
00:45:03,742 --> 00:45:06,202
I find that issue in French
but it's yeah, it's
902
00:45:06,202 --> 00:45:09,206
just been the mapping of the
how you pronounce
903
00:45:09,206 --> 00:45:11,833
to like the pronunciation
of the characters
904
00:45:11,833 --> 00:45:15,336
to the character that I'm sucking
at hardcore. I get I've never
905
00:45:15,336 --> 00:45:17,047
come across or like
learn the language
906
00:45:17,047 --> 00:45:19,842
that's like that, like Chinese
or Korean or something similar
907
00:45:19,842 --> 00:45:23,804
that I'm really, really
sucking out. I think people is
908
00:45:23,804 --> 00:45:27,224
Hito hito hei chai tea yo.
So I know the pronunciation
909
00:45:27,224 --> 00:45:29,726
or how would be like, you know,
you write it down
910
00:45:29,726 --> 00:45:32,855
and pronounce it people as Chito
couldn't fucking tell
911
00:45:32,855 --> 00:45:34,648
you the character.
I can kind of like
912
00:45:34,648 --> 00:45:38,568
in my mind see the tall
and the he kind of. But man,
913
00:45:38,568 --> 00:45:42,447
that level of mappings won't take
a very long time. I'm still
914
00:45:42,447 --> 00:45:43,949
trying to understand
myself personally,
915
00:45:43,949 --> 00:45:46,744
whether I need to
map it to characters or whether
916
00:45:46,744 --> 00:45:49,329
I don't to know
the level that I need
917
00:45:49,329 --> 00:45:52,750
to in Japanese. I think
maybe you do to read things
918
00:45:52,750 --> 00:45:54,376
and to understand things,
because then you're
919
00:45:54,376 --> 00:45:55,960
not going to go to Japan
and you don't see like,
920
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,963
Hey, this is she,
she has long hair, right?
921
00:45:57,963 --> 00:46:01,215
But I do that. It's just
that's what it is. And so I go
922
00:46:01,215 --> 00:46:03,302
fucking off the line.
I'm going to have to learn like
923
00:46:03,302 --> 00:46:06,972
character mapping and that
I've not even come close
924
00:46:06,972 --> 00:46:09,766
to really understanding it.
Really not at all. So that's
925
00:46:09,766 --> 00:46:12,311
probably the most challenging
at the moment and interesting.
926
00:46:12,311 --> 00:46:14,605
Yeah, for me the thing that
I struggled
927
00:46:14,605 --> 00:46:19,902
probably the most with,
aside from just switching up,
928
00:46:19,902 --> 00:46:22,570
I had a real, real hard time
when I was first learning Spanish
929
00:46:22,570 --> 00:46:26,115
about letting go of
literal translations.
930
00:46:26,115 --> 00:46:30,704
So to need to have
I can't use that as I do
931
00:46:30,704 --> 00:46:34,208
in, in, in English.
Like I just can't do it.
932
00:46:34,208 --> 00:46:37,628
I have to change it up.
So once I've let go of that, it's
933
00:46:37,628 --> 00:46:41,507
actually been relatively easy
for German to let go of some of
934
00:46:41,507 --> 00:46:44,550
the grammar aspects
related to subject verb order
935
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:47,512
and things like that.
The hardest one, probably just
936
00:46:47,512 --> 00:46:51,474
the one that trips me out
the most is structure of tenses,
937
00:46:51,474 --> 00:46:54,436
formation, and verbs
that act upon themselves.
938
00:46:54,436 --> 00:47:00,275
So the reflexive and it's per
nominal ones like it's
939
00:47:00,275 --> 00:47:04,445
I got it out of say so it's like
to grab itself or like I grabbed
940
00:47:04,445 --> 00:47:10,077
myself or things like that suck.
So I still suck at that.
941
00:47:10,077 --> 00:47:13,163
But one thing I actually
never really knew about myself
942
00:47:13,163 --> 00:47:17,793
was pronunciation and
being able to,
943
00:47:17,793 --> 00:47:20,711
I suppose, link words
has been really, really good.
944
00:47:20,711 --> 00:47:23,798
So Portuguese, it's very similar
to Spanish, but I never
945
00:47:23,798 --> 00:47:26,592
really understood
why people would say
946
00:47:26,592 --> 00:47:28,846
Portuguese speakers
can understand Spanish
947
00:47:28,846 --> 00:47:30,012
but Spanish can't.
I always thought
948
00:47:30,012 --> 00:47:33,599
that was bullshit. Like why?
But they're so similar. I'm
949
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:36,103
starting to learn Portuguese.
I'm like, Oh, it's
950
00:47:36,103 --> 00:47:38,981
just there's so many more
sounds that you can make.
951
00:47:38,981 --> 00:47:44,820
So Apple Manzano in Spanish,
the A's, every one of those A's
952
00:47:44,820 --> 00:47:49,407
is the same, and the end
is also the same in Portuguese.
953
00:47:49,407 --> 00:47:52,119
There's it's
like Monsieur, monsieur.
954
00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:55,414
And there's a sea
with a fucking little tail on it.
955
00:47:55,414 --> 00:47:59,293
I've forgotten the word
for a what? That, that tail is
956
00:47:59,293 --> 00:48:01,878
that's Portuguese Sea
or just in any language.
957
00:48:01,878 --> 00:48:03,922
You can have. That.
Talking about Spanish still de.
958
00:48:03,922 --> 00:48:06,800
It's like a character.
So you've got like the Enya,
959
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,844
which is the thing that goes the.
Yeah, I think it's Spanish.
960
00:48:09,844 --> 00:48:12,972
It's Matilde.
The Telltale. Beav Yeah.
961
00:48:12,972 --> 00:48:15,559
Like a top one. Yeah. Yeah.
Or the accent over
962
00:48:15,559 --> 00:48:21,565
and a two to Demark
when you should make that word
963
00:48:21,606 --> 00:48:24,860
which, which letter of that word
you should really mock.
964
00:48:24,860 --> 00:48:29,114
But in Portuguese
they have those, they also mark
965
00:48:29,114 --> 00:48:32,409
which word should which letter
should be accented.
966
00:48:32,409 --> 00:48:37,914
So instead of being like
Massa, it's Massa Massa. And the
967
00:48:37,914 --> 00:48:40,918
I at the end has a fucking new
one on top of it.
968
00:48:40,918 --> 00:48:43,545
And then the E's
got this triangle thing.
969
00:48:43,545 --> 00:48:46,590
So I'm like, Oh, this is why
all these words
970
00:48:46,590 --> 00:48:51,469
are basically the same. But
it's the, the, the, the sounds
971
00:48:51,469 --> 00:48:53,137
that were coming out
of Portuguese speakers
972
00:48:53,137 --> 00:48:55,891
mouths that that was
what was really tripping me up.
973
00:48:55,891 --> 00:49:00,938
So I think if I get those
it'll actually be a pretty
974
00:49:00,938 --> 00:49:04,023
expeditious process
to to actually start to get
975
00:49:04,023 --> 00:49:07,152
the rest of Portuguese going.
I think speaking maybe,
976
00:49:07,152 --> 00:49:09,528
maybe they'll still be difficult
getting the sounds
977
00:49:09,528 --> 00:49:11,447
out of my mouth, but actually
understanding I think I'll
978
00:49:11,447 --> 00:49:13,784
be able to get to.
A fair enough level
979
00:49:13,784 --> 00:49:17,119
that you'd want pretty.
Quickly. I think I could be
980
00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:19,831
proven wrong, but
I think I'll be able to get that
981
00:49:19,831 --> 00:49:23,751
a little bit quicker than than
your average bear. I think.
982
00:49:23,751 --> 00:49:26,088
I mean, a lot of languages,
you know, Latin bass
983
00:49:26,088 --> 00:49:28,005
and it's cool.
But once you start,
984
00:49:28,005 --> 00:49:31,175
get going for sure. Like again,
even before I ever did
985
00:49:31,175 --> 00:49:34,554
any like French learning,
I could kind of understand
986
00:49:34,554 --> 00:49:37,431
some some terminology,
some French saying with
987
00:49:37,431 --> 00:49:39,559
Portuguese, yes,
someone from Portuguese
988
00:49:39,559 --> 00:49:41,436
into Spanish can understand it.
Easier than that.
989
00:49:41,436 --> 00:49:45,398
But something like before
I'm doing any language,
990
00:49:45,398 --> 00:49:47,858
Italian numbers,
Portuguese numbers, I can kind of
991
00:49:47,858 --> 00:49:49,987
understand them,
even though I've never
992
00:49:49,987 --> 00:49:52,655
gone down that path. Sorry.
There's a lot of
993
00:49:52,655 --> 00:49:55,574
like embedded learning
just because there's some rooted
994
00:49:55,574 --> 00:49:58,202
work from, you know, a while
back languages, they just
995
00:49:58,202 --> 00:50:00,246
prevail through it. So there's
some differentiations.
996
00:50:00,246 --> 00:50:02,708
But as much as I'm not
watching so and drive
997
00:50:02,708 --> 00:50:04,458
to survive at the moment,
the latest season
998
00:50:04,458 --> 00:50:06,670
that I'm watching
does a hell of a lot of languages
999
00:50:06,670 --> 00:50:09,172
like we made it made it
come in this morning where we're
1000
00:50:09,172 --> 00:50:11,340
watching an episode
and the more season it goes,
1001
00:50:11,340 --> 00:50:12,925
the more different languages
are just using
1002
00:50:12,925 --> 00:50:14,552
and just giving a lot of,
you know, transcriptions
1003
00:50:14,552 --> 00:50:18,764
at the bottom. And now I'm done.
Zero learning of Italian.
1004
00:50:18,764 --> 00:50:21,101
There's a lot of Italian
speaking. Okay, now you get
1005
00:50:21,101 --> 00:50:22,268
you'll be fine.
It's not all the time
1006
00:50:22,268 --> 00:50:23,478
that I have to actually
read the transcript.
1007
00:50:23,478 --> 00:50:25,813
I can see them talking
and I kind of get
1008
00:50:25,813 --> 00:50:27,565
30 to 40%. Yeah.
And like a little like,
1009
00:50:27,565 --> 00:50:30,318
championship campeonato. A lot of
that is very similar.
1010
00:50:30,318 --> 00:50:32,695
So you're like, Oh, you get it?
I get the whole gist
1011
00:50:32,695 --> 00:50:34,530
of what's going on the show.
So there's a lot of
1012
00:50:34,530 --> 00:50:38,117
interesting language, which is,
yeah, it is, is, is good.
1013
00:50:38,117 --> 00:50:40,786
So I look, the more the merrier.
But I think there's obviously
1014
00:50:40,786 --> 00:50:43,373
some challenges embedded in
what I'm doing in there
1015
00:50:43,373 --> 00:50:46,333
with the existing stuff. For me,
characters, characters are
1016
00:50:46,333 --> 00:50:51,172
an absolute a yes.
Nice. All right. We'll leave it
1017
00:50:51,172 --> 00:50:54,467
here for today. I'm actually
going to start releasing these,
1018
00:50:54,467 --> 00:50:57,012
I think, on a Sunday
afternoon, our time
1019
00:50:57,012 --> 00:51:00,014
Sunday evening, just because
I'm already doing the the book
1020
00:51:00,014 --> 00:51:02,476
reviews on a monday.
So that would be like
1021
00:51:02,476 --> 00:51:06,021
double editing slash double
releases on the same time.
1022
00:51:06,021 --> 00:51:08,106
So I'm going to
put these on a Sunday. So just
1023
00:51:08,106 --> 00:51:10,400
if anyone's interested in and.
Why, honestly,
1024
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,985
I wonder if anyone cares any more
about this release, honestly,
1025
00:51:12,985 --> 00:51:15,155
because as you mentioned,
we'll all release on this day
1026
00:51:15,155 --> 00:51:18,657
and release on that day. And I'm
almost wanting to be like,
1027
00:51:18,657 --> 00:51:21,327
does it actually matter
if we want to make, you know,
1028
00:51:21,327 --> 00:51:23,746
like this content
that's everlasting
1029
00:51:23,746 --> 00:51:28,960
to a certain degree?
It's the problem. I think for us
1030
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,295
and our case, I would
say at the moment, no,
1031
00:51:31,295 --> 00:51:33,757
because we don't have
we just haven't
1032
00:51:33,757 --> 00:51:41,347
had the ability to structure it
as strictly as I would like.
1033
00:51:41,347 --> 00:51:43,307
But mostly this is
because I think
1034
00:51:43,307 --> 00:51:45,143
I'd probably be able to.
But you're, you're,
1035
00:51:45,143 --> 00:51:47,478
you're all over the place.
And so it's just
1036
00:51:47,478 --> 00:51:50,481
it's just really hard.
The general advice
1037
00:51:50,481 --> 00:51:52,233
that I've received
from kind of like
1038
00:51:52,233 --> 00:51:54,568
the best podcasts
and heard from them
1039
00:51:54,568 --> 00:51:57,239
release at the same date
at the same time. And I
1040
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,240
see the value in that
because on Saturday
1041
00:51:59,240 --> 00:52:01,952
mornings, who. Who are you
determining is being
1042
00:52:01,952 --> 00:52:03,786
the best podcast
at the same time?
1043
00:52:03,786 --> 00:52:06,414
So while definitely the ones that
I want to emulate,
1044
00:52:06,414 --> 00:52:08,791
so this is kind
of like that I'm Curry's
1045
00:52:08,791 --> 00:52:12,211
the Chris Fisher. So yeah.
Well I think about I think
1046
00:52:12,211 --> 00:52:16,132
retrospect on that is that
yes they are
1047
00:52:16,132 --> 00:52:18,802
the top of podcasting
in a certain. Degree.
1048
00:52:18,802 --> 00:52:21,887
Well that I want to be, yes.
But do the very, very top
1049
00:52:21,887 --> 00:52:26,434
at the broadest I guess aspect do
that as well?
1050
00:52:26,434 --> 00:52:29,646
I don't know. Maybe. Yes, maybe.
I've literally no idea. I don't
1051
00:52:29,646 --> 00:52:31,356
I know you look at team
fare as a Chris
1052
00:52:31,356 --> 00:52:34,025
Williams, a Andrew Human.
Do they really things
1053
00:52:34,025 --> 00:52:38,028
on the same time. Same same time,
same days. And I
1054
00:52:38,028 --> 00:52:39,405
those are the truly
I guess you'd say
1055
00:52:39,405 --> 00:52:41,657
the most watched
I'll have most listened Yeah.
1056
00:52:41,657 --> 00:52:46,454
Once again it's I'm I don't
want to be them I what does this
1057
00:52:46,454 --> 00:52:49,291
I'm emulating the ones
I want to be like but I guess
1058
00:52:49,291 --> 00:52:55,505
but yeah no that's a good point.
I don't with regards to them I
1059
00:52:55,505 --> 00:52:59,050
reckon they would still Yes.
Do that because there's
1060
00:52:59,050 --> 00:53:02,429
a huge value
just for me personally
1061
00:53:02,429 --> 00:53:04,431
on a Saturday morning.
That's when podcasting
1062
00:53:04,431 --> 00:53:07,976
to come out to point out
comes out. I wake up in there,
1063
00:53:07,976 --> 00:53:10,896
my app and it's the very
first thing I do play that
1064
00:53:10,896 --> 00:53:13,063
Saturday morning
and I look forward to it.
1065
00:53:13,063 --> 00:53:15,858
It's something I really enjoy.
When it doesn't come out
1066
00:53:15,858 --> 00:53:19,862
at that time, it impacts me.
It's like, Oh, they're not
1067
00:53:19,862 --> 00:53:22,824
that into an episode today.
Like why isn't an out that
1068
00:53:22,824 --> 00:53:25,452
that sort of deal or they had to
do a different one.
1069
00:53:25,452 --> 00:53:30,123
It throws me off my routine
with us because we change
1070
00:53:30,123 --> 00:53:32,833
around so much.
Yeah it's probably
1071
00:53:32,833 --> 00:53:35,711
I think it would be good
if we could get to it.
1072
00:53:35,711 --> 00:53:39,132
But we can't. But you say so,
but he's got to be so
1073
00:53:39,132 --> 00:53:43,344
because to me that
would say so. Yeah, maybe it
1074
00:53:43,344 --> 00:53:46,181
isn't the case
because that sounds like
1075
00:53:46,181 --> 00:53:49,184
the content that.
But are we going to be creating
1076
00:53:49,184 --> 00:53:51,561
We're wanting to maybe optimise
for people listening
1077
00:53:51,561 --> 00:53:54,940
at in the moment not being like
evergreen content and not.
1078
00:53:54,940 --> 00:53:59,318
Even necessarily that.
But then I realise that
1079
00:53:59,318 --> 00:54:01,445
it could also
be evergreen content even if it
1080
00:54:01,445 --> 00:54:04,114
is being released
at a particular time. Okay.
1081
00:54:04,114 --> 00:54:06,742
And then it's also
just think about TV
1082
00:54:06,742 --> 00:54:11,581
shows for example, and Simpsons.
It was always 6 p.m.
1083
00:54:11,581 --> 00:54:14,668
on a weekday. Yeah.
What if they'd changed it
1084
00:54:14,668 --> 00:54:19,588
to 7 p.m. some day? You would.
And it was like one day
1085
00:54:19,588 --> 00:54:21,298
it was at 7 p.m.,
then the rest was six
1086
00:54:21,298 --> 00:54:24,302
or something like that
would bug people for sure
1087
00:54:24,302 --> 00:54:26,887
because you get into the routine,
you know what you look for.
1088
00:54:26,887 --> 00:54:30,599
So it's not even necessarily
related to the relating,
1089
00:54:30,599 --> 00:54:33,936
which I actually prefer
to release things quicker
1090
00:54:33,936 --> 00:54:36,606
just because of how we what we do
with the Brewster
1091
00:54:36,606 --> 00:54:41,902
groups and stuff.
It works better. But even if
1092
00:54:41,902 --> 00:54:44,739
we weren't doing that,
I think the advice would
1093
00:54:44,739 --> 00:54:47,157
still probably hold true
that it's better to release it
1094
00:54:47,157 --> 00:54:50,202
the same day at the same time.
If you can. Yeah. Okay. We,
1095
00:54:50,202 --> 00:54:52,871
we can't really at the moment.
So it's not, it's
1096
00:54:52,871 --> 00:54:55,000
not that big of a deal. I mean
it's a good call up
1097
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,043
because I guess
I don't absorb content
1098
00:54:57,043 --> 00:54:59,878
and just in general
like I guess you do and so that
1099
00:54:59,878 --> 00:55:01,422
I would be interested.
Well you're, you're.
1100
00:55:01,422 --> 00:55:03,882
Kind of like a pick and choose.
Alright, well, is there any
1101
00:55:03,882 --> 00:55:06,635
what are you listening to now.
It's probably changed more
1102
00:55:06,635 --> 00:55:09,097
where I have too many.
There's so many.
1103
00:55:09,097 --> 00:55:11,766
So there's 0% chance
that I can listen
1104
00:55:11,766 --> 00:55:12,934
to every single podcast
coming out
1105
00:55:12,934 --> 00:55:15,394
that I've subscribed to. Correct.
So all I do is I just go to
1106
00:55:15,394 --> 00:55:17,771
the new episodes and just flick
through things
1107
00:55:17,771 --> 00:55:18,981
and I'm like, Okay,
that's interesting.
1108
00:55:18,981 --> 00:55:22,568
I'll just listen to that one.
I'm not so caring about
1109
00:55:22,568 --> 00:55:24,445
when it came out,
what it's about.
1110
00:55:24,445 --> 00:55:26,239
So they give you an idea.
At the moment
1111
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I'm listening to a lot.
Andrew Human
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just because I want to,
I'm just going through
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Andrew Higgins podcast
and just scrolling down
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to the last one
I ever listened to and just going
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through and going,
Oh, not going to listen.
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I'll listen to this one go. Yeah,
So you're in a very
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00:55:38,918 --> 00:55:41,003
different mood.
You're in your own kind of
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I've found a new show.
I want to listen
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to the back catalogue.
Obviously, release
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date doesn't matter to you. Yeah,
because you don't
1121
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throw out old stuff. Do you?
Do you think
1122
00:55:49,971 --> 00:55:53,391
the general tendency is
there's a deviation? There's
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people who listen to our show,
and it's people
1124
00:55:55,476 --> 00:55:58,438
who listen to podcasts
content in general.
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00:55:58,438 --> 00:56:00,190
Do you think people
who listen to our show
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00:56:00,190 --> 00:56:05,235
are there for the very latest and
greatest listen one or are they
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00:56:05,235 --> 00:56:06,612
just they're
going to go and check out
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a back catalogue latest? Great.
That's what I think, too.
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00:56:10,574 --> 00:56:13,786
But in general, podcast
listenership is it
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latest and greatest or so I think
there's there's a big piece.
1131
00:56:17,498 --> 00:56:18,875
So maybe I'm
in I'm in the minority
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00:56:18,875 --> 00:56:21,085
where I'll go back and listen
to all the podcasts.
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00:56:21,085 --> 00:56:23,380
I I've done this as well.
Yeah, for sure.
1134
00:56:23,380 --> 00:56:26,800
And you do find gems and you go,
Oh yeah, you're listing
1135
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,969
behaviour changes,
but the consistent ones
1136
00:56:30,969 --> 00:56:34,431
that you come back to time
after time, I think that's where
1137
00:56:34,431 --> 00:56:36,809
it actually is important,
That's the sort of thing. Yeah.
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00:56:36,809 --> 00:56:39,396
And that, and that is I guess
from, from my perspective here
1139
00:56:39,396 --> 00:56:40,480
and we're talking
a little bit metaphor
1140
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,108
for the podcast,
that's why I want to,
1141
00:56:44,192 --> 00:56:46,027
for book reviews and for
other things I'm creating,
1142
00:56:46,027 --> 00:56:49,114
try to put in
more effort and again,
1143
00:56:49,114 --> 00:56:52,449
where that effort
lies, I'm not sure because I do
1144
00:56:52,449 --> 00:56:54,702
see the benefit of,
of releasing things
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00:56:54,702 --> 00:56:56,079
in a timely manner,
which is why I play
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00:56:56,079 --> 00:56:57,914
for the mere mortals emotion.
You're seeing it coming out
1147
00:56:57,914 --> 00:56:59,541
on a weekly basis,
and I've already got it
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00:56:59,541 --> 00:57:00,833
like, you know,
three weeks in advance.
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00:57:00,833 --> 00:57:04,170
And I'll be able to
cap that in a cadence. But I also
1150
00:57:04,170 --> 00:57:07,465
want to have it in a set up
so that there is a potential
1151
00:57:07,465 --> 00:57:09,550
that it's evergreen content
or content that's going
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00:57:09,550 --> 00:57:12,429
to be checked in on
two years from now.
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00:57:12,429 --> 00:57:15,597
So I think it's some value in
the latest and greatest
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00:57:15,597 --> 00:57:17,599
in the cadence,
and that brings people.
1155
00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:20,228
But some of the true value,
I think for us at the very least
1156
00:57:20,228 --> 00:57:21,728
that can be brought
is something that
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00:57:21,728 --> 00:57:23,356
from like two years
ago, that all of this
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00:57:23,356 --> 00:57:24,731
all of a sudden
it's still popular,
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00:57:24,731 --> 00:57:29,195
still being listened to, it's
still informative. Those are the
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00:57:29,195 --> 00:57:30,697
ones that I would say
that sort of content
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00:57:30,697 --> 00:57:32,614
I want to create
that's both for now
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00:57:32,614 --> 00:57:35,034
and a lighter piece.
And you can do both.
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00:57:35,034 --> 00:57:37,454
I mean, I'm going to
for the book review,
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00:57:37,454 --> 00:57:40,539
certainly I'm
going to be focusing on
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00:57:40,539 --> 00:57:42,458
shorter, sharper.
I'm doing them live
1166
00:57:42,458 --> 00:57:44,501
and it's already
paying a benefit. I've saying,
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00:57:44,501 --> 00:57:45,836
you know,
I received a boost again
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00:57:45,836 --> 00:57:49,132
from Ashley Glenday.
He or she I'm not too sure
1169
00:57:49,132 --> 00:57:50,675
I need to find that out,
but that'll
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00:57:50,675 --> 00:57:54,094
I get really enjoyed it.
Here's some stats from a
1171
00:57:54,094 --> 00:57:55,847
fellow Aussie.
It was like awesome
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00:57:55,847 --> 00:57:58,516
the incredible
like they were only
1173
00:57:58,516 --> 00:58:01,894
streaming before and then I think
partly in to now being able
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00:58:01,894 --> 00:58:04,355
to call them out rapidly.
It's already
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00:58:04,355 --> 00:58:08,650
having like an immediate
little boon and impact. So
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00:58:08,735 --> 00:58:12,070
I can do that and then
you can just release your,
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00:58:12,070 --> 00:58:16,492
your one on a whenever schedule
do it to the best ability.
1178
00:58:16,492 --> 00:58:20,954
You can see what happens
just from the amount of work
1179
00:58:20,954 --> 00:58:25,460
that we've put into video, into
time. You know, I put in a fuck
1180
00:58:25,460 --> 00:58:30,757
ton of effort into the the latest
what was it, the Valley.
1181
00:58:30,757 --> 00:58:32,007
The Valley show
where I went through
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00:58:32,007 --> 00:58:34,469
all the different apps
that that was a ridiculous
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00:58:34,469 --> 00:58:37,597
amount of effort. I had to get
someone else's phone to be able
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00:58:37,597 --> 00:58:40,516
to use the apple
because I don't have iOS
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00:58:40,516 --> 00:58:45,230
to use Costa Metric.
Tons and tons of effort.
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00:58:45,230 --> 00:58:47,940
Initial reaction
hasn't been like super,
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00:58:47,940 --> 00:58:50,735
super huge and comparison
to some other shows
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00:58:50,735 --> 00:58:56,824
that I've done, which I put
in significantly less effort. And
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00:58:56,907 --> 00:58:58,952
it's it's not
going to be evergreen.
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00:58:58,952 --> 00:59:00,286
That's probably
only going to be useful
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00:59:00,286 --> 00:59:02,079
for six months. Guys,
and it'll be outdated
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00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:08,043
at some point. Yep. Yeah. And
I don't know I, I personally
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00:59:08,043 --> 00:59:09,920
haven't seen for us,
maybe we just don't
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00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,297
create evergreen content.
Maybe we haven't done this
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00:59:12,297 --> 00:59:16,719
long enough to be able of.
Maybe not. And that's the,
1196
00:59:16,719 --> 00:59:19,054
that's one of the golden
We have an exploit
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00:59:19,054 --> 00:59:22,266
like we haven't found yet.
You know, sometimes like I was in
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00:59:22,266 --> 00:59:23,684
the book review
I did on David Goggins,
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00:59:23,684 --> 00:59:27,313
such as absolutely went off.
I don't know how much I did
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on the audio. I'm not sure
what much I did with it.
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00:59:30,942 --> 00:59:32,735
You know, I was trying
to emulate what I did
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00:59:32,735 --> 00:59:36,030
there. I'm not quite so.
I would predict it's
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00:59:36,030 --> 00:59:39,367
almost nothing to do with you
and it is everything to do
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00:59:39,367 --> 00:59:42,161
with algorithms
and what people were
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00:59:42,161 --> 00:59:44,621
searching for Spotify.
So and because this was
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00:59:44,621 --> 00:59:46,206
only through Spotify,
that's the only
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00:59:46,206 --> 00:59:48,626
reason it took off and it didn't
take off on Apple,
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didn't take off on any of the.
Other very specific.
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00:59:50,711 --> 00:59:54,423
One. Very, very specific.
And what I would say is Spotify
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00:59:54,423 --> 00:59:58,927
saw people were looking for this.
Your tidal description.
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I would say it's almost nothing
to do with. With the app. As.
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01:00:02,681 --> 01:00:05,143
It's while although I would want
to want to check like the
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01:00:05,143 --> 01:00:09,105
exact statistics of of those
whatever I better watch it
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01:00:09,105 --> 01:00:12,065
did everyone watch it
80% 10%, 5%. But it wouldn't
1215
01:00:12,065 --> 01:00:14,402
be that much.
I bet it wouldn't differ
1216
01:00:14,402 --> 01:00:17,739
compared to other ones.
And I don't want to be
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01:00:17,739 --> 01:00:19,449
in the game of
chasing algorithms.
1218
01:00:19,449 --> 01:00:22,534
I think that's just an
unhealthy mindset to get into.
1219
01:00:22,534 --> 01:00:25,496
So yeah, it's
I don't know, who knows,
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01:00:25,496 --> 01:00:27,789
maybe you're fucking genius
one and you. Probably.
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01:00:27,789 --> 01:00:30,251
Like I mean, look, if that was
ever going to be a book,
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01:00:30,251 --> 01:00:33,920
that was your mentality.
That's the one. So it's like
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01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,050
you could have created something.
I'm sure I've listened
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01:00:37,050 --> 01:00:39,719
to that episode,
but I don't remember it being
1225
01:00:39,719 --> 01:00:41,721
especially great. No, nothing,
nothing at all.
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01:00:41,721 --> 01:00:43,389
But I enjoyed doing it.
I do remember
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01:00:43,389 --> 01:00:46,559
really enjoying doing it.
I remember I put a Simpsons
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01:00:46,559 --> 01:00:48,061
video in the middle
of it as well.
1229
01:00:48,061 --> 01:00:50,980
So those aspects of fun
that I did through it.
1230
01:00:50,980 --> 01:00:52,898
So I don't know. I don't know
if I've done something
1231
01:00:52,898 --> 01:00:55,400
in the latest book review,
which was similar to that,
1232
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,987
and I'd be tempted to see
if it generates something
1233
01:00:58,987 --> 01:01:01,407
similar to what that did,
maybe in the behaviour
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01:01:01,407 --> 01:01:02,574
of listenership
and stuff like that.
1235
01:01:02,574 --> 01:01:05,244
If you're making money
off that you would
1236
01:01:05,327 --> 01:01:08,539
you'd get demonetised.
Yes, absolutely. Yeah, I'm
1237
01:01:08,539 --> 01:01:11,166
pretty sure it
already got picked up by YouTube,
1238
01:01:11,166 --> 01:01:14,253
at least for being like, Hey,
you're using that. So yeah,
1239
01:01:14,253 --> 01:01:16,338
there is white, by the way,
you can get around that.
1240
01:01:16,338 --> 01:01:19,800
It's how you. Pay value is
what it's called. Yeah. It's less
1241
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,469
the picture of the
value for value.
1242
01:01:21,469 --> 01:01:23,304
You just mentioned it.
How could people support us
1243
01:01:23,304 --> 01:01:25,097
here at the moment.
So they can do it
1244
01:01:25,097 --> 01:01:27,849
through a variety of methods?
The one that we most
1245
01:01:27,849 --> 01:01:29,601
prefer is through
a Brewster gram. This is if
1246
01:01:29,601 --> 01:01:32,146
you're listening in on your
podcasting app. So if you're
1247
01:01:32,146 --> 01:01:35,608
on the video,
you can actually go to
1248
01:01:35,608 --> 01:01:38,277
this podcast dot com slash import
and there's
1249
01:01:38,277 --> 01:01:41,447
bit of instructions there on how
you can boost in directly
1250
01:01:41,447 --> 01:01:44,742
from that page as well.
So basically a boost as a message
1251
01:01:44,742 --> 01:01:47,744
with a bit of bitcoin
attach some money.
1252
01:01:47,744 --> 01:01:48,954
Great thing with
that as you can do it
1253
01:01:48,954 --> 01:01:51,248
anywhere in the world.
There's no restrictions
1254
01:01:51,248 --> 01:01:54,001
with regards to sending money
to Australia or over here
1255
01:01:54,001 --> 01:01:55,836
or over there.
That comes directly
1256
01:01:55,836 --> 01:02:00,173
to us, peer to peer.
It's very, very cool. And yeah,
1257
01:02:00,173 --> 01:02:04,262
you can also just share the show
to create a clip if you want.
1258
01:02:04,262 --> 01:02:07,014
You can do that.
An audio video talent.
1259
01:02:07,014 --> 01:02:11,226
If you've got some interesting
language stuff, if you have
1260
01:02:11,226 --> 01:02:13,730
the ability to pull the lever,
if you're working on CRISPR
1261
01:02:13,730 --> 01:02:15,690
and you have
you've got some stats
1262
01:02:15,690 --> 01:02:19,068
or some info on on how you
can if you're the
1263
01:02:19,152 --> 01:02:23,739
Chinese guy here, what was it
the baby with. That thing is more
1264
01:02:23,739 --> 01:02:26,992
there's more than one now.
But yeah, yeah. The guy who.
1265
01:02:26,992 --> 01:02:31,204
Used it was like, make it base
resistant, right? Correct. Yeah.
1266
01:02:31,204 --> 01:02:32,706
I think there's
more to that stories
1267
01:02:32,706 --> 01:02:35,376
and that that whole thing
has been distorted as well.
1268
01:02:35,376 --> 01:02:38,503
But yeah, whatever. We'll run
with it for now. Listen to
1269
01:02:38,503 --> 01:02:40,005
something recently about it,
but I can't remember
1270
01:02:40,005 --> 01:02:42,884
more details. Yeah.
So yeah. Time talent.
1271
01:02:42,884 --> 01:02:45,594
Try to share the show, send us in
some of your talent.
1272
01:02:45,594 --> 01:02:47,387
If you've got anything
interesting to say,
1273
01:02:47,387 --> 01:02:49,931
we'd love to hear it. And then
yes, and some treasure
1274
01:02:49,931 --> 01:02:52,851
through as well
would be very much appreciated.
1275
01:02:52,851 --> 01:02:55,021
You can also do that
through a PayPal link,
1276
01:02:55,021 --> 01:02:57,523
which is in the show
notes. It's available.
1277
01:02:57,523 --> 01:02:58,858
You can be the very
first one, folks. It can be the
1278
01:02:58,858 --> 01:03:01,485
very first, be. The first.
Immortalised. Thank you very much
1279
01:03:01,485 --> 01:03:03,695
for tuning in.
This is once again us
1280
01:03:03,695 --> 01:03:06,199
at the mere mortals here
outside for meanderings. I'd be a
1281
01:03:06,199 --> 01:03:07,742
well wherever
you are on the world, Juan out.
1282
01:03:07,742 --> 01:03:09,284
Kyrin out, bye.