Have you ever felt that you're being censored with what you can say?
In Episode #395 of 'Musings', Juan & I discuss: do humans need protection from the truth, the actual realities of whether censorship works, how physical punishments/threats is much different from abiding by rules and social norms, the link between social media companies and government, examples of Roosh V & Julian Assange, Juan's practicality predicament and why we remain sponsor/advertisement free to remain free from censorship.
Shoutouts to Dave Jones, Bun, Petar, McIntosh (from Generation Bitcoin) and Cole McCormick (from America+). Much appreciation to everyone supporting via streaming as well!
Timeline:
(0:00) - Going to be juicy!
(1:21) - Origin of the topic
(2:26) - What's the point of censorship?
(7:29) - There was an attempt meme
(9:25) - Theoretical vs practical
(18:05) - Podcasting 2.0 is censorship resistant
(24:47) - Daniel Ellsberg & The Pentagon Papers
(31:03) - Boostagram Lounge
(35:38) - Soft vs hard forms
(45:02) - Joe Rogan & RFK
(49:16) - Free speech markets
(59:42) - Summary
(1:09:01) - V4V: No censorship here
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