Protecting Yourself Online | Passwords, Privacy & Data Breaches

What is Effective Philosophy? Juan and I simplify hard to grasp concepts into pragmatic takeaways that can be applied to every day life (fitness, goal setting, work, parenting, travel, hobbies, finances, etc.,). 2 x episodes a week. We go live every Wednesday with our meanderings, plus an extra as a more casual conversation with a guest or between ourselves.

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What should we be doing to maintain a healthy digital hygiene?

In Episode #431 of 'Musings', Juan & I discuss: why this topic felt like work to Juan, how companies think about cyber security, the Stuxnet virus plus a Dutchman receiving American military emails, Butters the abused dog, our argument over what consists an 'attack', the coming era of more awareness of private data and why the social considerations are more important than the technical.

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Timeline:
(0:00) - Intro
(0:52) - Today's topic: getting our nerd on
(3:08) - Risk vs Reward
(9:06) - No actual harm is possible
(13:38) - It's easier to just kill a dude
(16:18) - Protecting against bad actors vs unwitting Kyrin's
(22:19) - Boostagram Lounge
(29:21) - Boost or the puppy gets it
(30:20) - Protecting your data & identity
(40:08) - Are AI Deepfakes an attack?
(46:16) - Don't be an asshole online
(52:02) - Geoguesser, Popsmoke & flashing cash
(56:35) - Summary
(1:05:50) - V4V: Create a clip

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