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I can't seem to keep Pete Smissen away, he's coming back for his 5th appearance!

In Conversation #89, Pete and I discuss: why you can't control your kid's actions, psychoanalysing our personalities when we were young, the types of language that people use to sound convincing, tangents into music and cool Japanese hobbies, how swearing differs across cultures and my fascinating with AI Harry Spotter.

As always, I hope you enjoy. Kyrin out!

Timeline:
(0:00) - Intro to Pete
(1:04) - Disgust sensitivity in children
(4:19) - Pete's child won't eat!
(10:26) - You can't mold your children
(13:20) - Pete was a bully, I was a people-pleaser
(18:50) - I hate telling people what to do
(21:17) - An insecure scientist is a good scientist
(26:20) - Disillusioned by university
(31:37) - Decoding the gurus
(37:57) - Jordan Peterson & confidence
(46:12) - Subjective stories
(53:00) - The future of music (Rick Beato)
(1:02:40) - Tiny Fishing In Japan
(1:09:10) - Bitcoin & scams
(1:18:14) - Coffeezilla & Logan Paul
(1:25:25) - Languages & swearing
(1:45:39) - AI & Podcasting
(1:54:36) - Consuming AI media
(2:00:30) - Using AI for Aussie English
(2:07:13) - Transcribing pains


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