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It's time for our monthly check in where we review our goals from last month and see what's coming up for the next.

Do you set yourself monthly goals and if so, how many do you set? Juan and I on the first week of every month go over our progress from the previous month and where we are heading for the next. Emphasis as always is on the shortcomings; what we didn't achieve in the previous monthly goals and how we will fix that for the month that comes. We hope you get some value from this series, showcasing our own methodology. What do you do differently and why?

Timeline:
(00:00:00) Intro
(00:03:06) Juan's May 2025 Recap
(00:09:25) Kyrin's May 2025 Recap
(00:12:11) Support Overview
(00:19:40) Juan's June 2025 Goals
(00:23:02) Kyrin's June 2025 Goals
(00:45:00) Fitness
(00:46:09) V4V: TTT

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[00:00:02] Unknown:

We all can't be mortals capable of mistakes. The journey is not here to be our guest. Welcome  

[00:00:09] Juan Granados:

back. Mere Mortalites. We are on the May 11. You've got Juan here. And Kyrin on the other side. Monthly goals slightly early. If you're checking your watches and looking at your calendars and going you dumb fucks, you're literally not in the middle of a month. What are you doing?  

[00:00:26] Kyrin Down:

It's probably been, has it been one or two weeks since we did the last week? Two and a bit weeks.  

[00:00:30] Juan Granados:

Don't worry, we haven't lost our minds yet. Yet.   But you know, if you're watching this after the live, because this is gonna get released a little bit later, lots of things have happened. I've gotten married. You're listening to this a bit later. In fact No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'll be releasing this   next weekend, so. So I will be married. I'm officially getting married the following weekend. That is correct. That is correct. I've got the ring on already. Woah. If you don't know, that's right. I picked it up the other day and, I was talking to my partner about this and, you know, they're like, oh, you know, it should be I was like, man, I don't care. It's like, we're so untraditional with what we're doing. So I was like, let's track it on. Let's do it. So I've got it go to the sounds. It feels really cool. If,   probably for me, I'm not a big jewelry person to be frank and a little bigger like wearer, but putting this on and wearing it off, as of yesterday. So for myself, it kind of made me,   it's like the equivalent of   maybe wearing   like an expensive something they don't generally do. Maybe like if you were to put on a Rolex or wear like really expensive shoes, something that I got maybe for us, where it's not like we don't really care about it, but it does it would give you a little bit of a different feeling like, oh, maybe a little bit more luxe or maybe you put something that feels more relaxed like a cashmere jumper. Now, we don't really care but it just feels different. It's like that feeling   that it makes you feel more mature, almost, more wise, more responsible. There's a few things that come along with it. I was gonna say kinda cool. Probably for me the only equivalent thing would be like wearing a suit, you know? Yeah. I don't do it very often. Correct. You   definitely get different looks. Correct. Different feels. It's that sort of feeling. It's that sort of feeling. So it's not it's yeah, I didn't think I thought it was gonna be like literally nothing. So my quotation was there's gonna be nothing. So   it's more than nothing. It's not like, oh my God, world's changed. But there's subtle, there's a subtle feeling to it, which is nice. Reddit and 9gag  

[00:02:19] Kyrin Down:

announced that as soon as you put the wedding ring on is when you just get stuck start getting hit on by the ladies   nonstop. So ladies,  

[00:02:28] Juan Granados:

Juan's got the ring on. Bring it on. My message is ready to punch on.   Very good. So in any case, we're not talking about weddings, but talking about monthly goals. So we did do the monthly goals not too long ago.   Me and Karen are gonna be traveling,   quite a while for a long while. So we wanna make sure we we do this a little bit early.   We'll reflect on and usually what we do is we'll reflect on the monthly goals of the past, which this it'll be May, although we're in May right now, but we'll talk about what we've been doing. Yep. And then the plan for June. Now for May, Karan had big amount of goals.  

[00:02:58] Kyrin Down:

Yeah, huge, huge. It's gonna be very difficult for me to achieve. Yeah, to remember. I'll skip that.  

[00:03:04] Juan Granados:

Nothing, it was nothing. Nothing. For some memory. So, but I'll quickly just talk through mine. It was three and actually reduced mine down. It was enjoying the final month before a big holiday to reset and this was,   specifically in the body space. Now, newsflash, I injured myself without even trying to, just basically over exertion on the foot. So I have to pull back on my running, even though my half marathon's in a couple of days. Classic.   Yep. Yeah, no. Like split's a half marathon on the foot. It's not next weekend, but the weekend after Saturday. So as we stand right now, it's   thirteen days from today to recover. I haven't run for a week.  



[00:03:41] Kyrin Down:

I mean, that's kind that you meant to taper down. Well,  

[00:03:44] Juan Granados:

interestingly enough, if I went to my running plan   this week, I was supposed to run Monday or past Monday is gone and then not run again until the weekend.   No, I think there might have been like a small run-in the week, but then not until the weekend on Sunday, like today,   to do a really long run, which was, I was planning 31 kilometers.   Now,   obviously didn't do it, so, but that was part of my plan. I was supposed to take quite a bit of time away. So,   I'd tell you my foot, I jog, I said I jogged   one minute today and there was slight discomfort,   two out of 10. I'm using my AI agents, my doctors. Okay. Very good. I would recommend you people out there to be using it. There's not,  

[00:04:25] Kyrin Down:

not good medical advice there. Well, interestingly  

[00:04:27] Juan Granados:

enough, so the, what's it called? I think it's called Superpower,   if I can remember correctly, but Superpower, which is an Aussie guy that went up to The States,   they're basically doing the same concept, they're just doing an app that's doctor led, like doctor kind of thing, but using AI tools, which again, you can just do this with a lot of   AI tools yourself, but they must have   specific inputs and maybe Adria or something else.   They just recently,   they all he had was an email list of I think a hundred thousand people or 120,000   people. So no product, just the idea. And he got valuation   and funding for $300,000,000   Sorry, valuation $300,000,000 but I think he'd raised $30,000,000   out of $300,000,000   valuation. So there's that some of these things are gonna come out heavy in like two years. Yeah. I'll imagine the cost per individual. That's like $3 or something. Yeah, I was like, holy smokes. So anyways, in any case,  

[00:05:21] Kyrin Down:

the enjoying the final month will be a great one. If you want my email for $3,  

[00:05:24] Juan Granados:

hit me up, ask, ask. I've got multiple. I've sent you plenty.   But he, sorry, in the final month, I've been doing a lot of other training. So I've been talking to you and friends about it. Lots of pull ups, really been enjoying that, even through some of the pain, it's just kind of like fun to be doing different things. And even this past week without running, I've just been enjoying, going into the gym and doing a lot of bike riding. Now, stationary bike riding, so they get too excited folks. But I've hit 50 kilometers of bike riding as of like this week. Is that a lot?   Bike riding seems like people can do a lot of k's on it. So I did 28 kilometers this morning. How about me fifty three minutes. So let's just say overall I did, I'm doing around about as much   bikes riding as I was doing running in hours. Okay. So yeah, obviously much quicker.  

Different definition of hardness because when you're running, you're like kind of jarring the muscles and the bones and there's a different usage. Whereas in the bike, because it's just stationary and moving. Yes, you do get sore. But   I don't know if it's a different type. Yeah. I don't know if it just would just be a general to humans or maybe like, I've just like with training and it now feels like I could sit on a bike for like a really long time. Like if, if you had told me, oh, let's do a challenge and do a hundred kilometer bike ride, I would, I would kind of be like, oh, as long as I just got something to watch.   It's like, honestly, I'd be like, this is easy. This is not difficult. Like give me enough food and I'm gonna watch and it's cool. So that one's going alright. That one's going good for me. The other two, no stress on calendar for this month, just create as much as I can for the mere mortals and schedule.  



[00:06:51] Kyrin Down:

I have I see some, some  

[00:06:54] Juan Granados:

schedule I have scheduled to book reviews already. I have another book that I've got to do the both the   review and the learnings for I've got another four books. I've got to do a review on just gonna do review only.   So I'll, I'm going to try and do that over the next two weeks basically that I've got. So I'm trying to force for that. And then there's a few like monthly lessons,   thoughts about travel, thoughts about weddings I want to document as well. Yep.   So I'll   not next week, but probably the following week because I'm personally pulling back from a lot of other work things that I'm doing. So I think I'll have more time to do it then   just before I leave. So that was going well, that was going well.  

And actually this is a learning point for myself   going back again, this is usual going back into the, doing the first book review. I started it for like a minute and I went, oh man, I fucked it up. I really stuffed that up. So then I started again. So when you don't do it for a while,   it does take you feel a little bit rusty, right? It takes a little bit. So but once I got into the flow, awesome. It was totally fine. The editing, however, I actually found it was like, yeah, picking up a bike, like just there was no   delay, almost like I had muscle memory to being able to do it. So that was like super, super good.  

So again, going good. The last one was just taking a half day retreat to plan on it just for my overarching visions.   I haven't done it yet and, you know, talking to my partner about this, won't be like a,   I'm going to go away somewhere, although I've seen people do that and   part of me would recommend it, but part of me goes, I'll, again, I'll just use   time throughout the day when I can have that to do that. It's probably going to be honestly, just before I travel, like in those weekends before I travel, it'll probably be that. But in the airport. Yeah, in the airport. Well,   we'll be at the airport on,   I won't give away details of location and time, but I basically,   do a half marathon   one morning, we hang around in the location that we're at. Then the next morning we leave at around ten or 11AM, get back here probably at around 12:30 or one and then at 11PM that night, we fly, we go to the airport,   the fly out,   the   flies at two in the morning basically. So. That's a nasty flight man. Yeah, and how's that gonna go with a two year old?  

Yeah, we'll see, we'll see.   Yeah, May is going well, again, monthly goals, I kind of kept it really concise. Wasn't anything that too dramatic that I thought was going to be the case. Been able to put a lot of effort,   and starting to just get like fully ready for travel season. Yeah. I'm gonna call it travel season. Yeah. I mean, that's that's why I had  

[00:09:28] Kyrin Down:

zero for mine. I'm pretty much prepped now. I've   books almost all the main things is only kind of three nights unaccounted for in Berlin.   So   I need to need to do that. But that's kind of dependent on some other people. So someone listens to this and they're in Berlin, you want to offer Karen a space to stay out? I'm staying with all the random people, man. Like, you know, I'll stay I'll stay with a listener. Yeah, sure.   And   I need to book that a train ticket and   then all I need is a flight home, I think, and about everything. Oh, and probably a car   or for a little bit.  

And let's go to Switzerland. But yep, that's, that's pretty much   much me. Those who was wondering as well, never view the book reviews live. I usually do like,   it's probably on average a full start   every for every book review. So I'll do it. I've seen it. I'll stuff it up. I'll be like,  

[00:10:21] Juan Granados:

I want to do that. Which one was this? Which it was it was a couple of books now I go that you did book review, but I swear you like started it at least I screwed up three times. Yeah, it was one that was that you were trying to get a really like long   piece like really right. Yeah. Wow. I remember you like started again started again. So again, you got it right. Yeah. So there's there's some which I  

[00:10:40] Kyrin Down:

the opening sentence or something like I want to know you want to like nail Yeah, but yeah, it happens. Yeah. So   yeah, I'm heading off on Thursday. So four days time.   Thankfully, my well, yeah, my flights at I think 10PM. So   not as bad as the 2AM. That's pretty gross. But,  

[00:11:01] Juan Granados:

yeah, look, the funny thing is so I saw someone posted earlier that, you know, they can't really sleep on a plane and I can't either like I   might have slipped once on a plane ever. And I have taken   I'm gonna say close to I reckon I'm closing on probably like 400 or 500 flights. That's like   maybe 400. Is it 500? You've done them? No. Give them a try. But I don't, yeah, I never The problem is though, if you have sleeping pills, not like a proper sleep either. Like you might not want to stay awake, like at that point. She just,   yeah, I don't know. Like it's, it's   but, but no, sorry. The reason I was saying that is if it's 2AM,   then I can kind of go to sleep really early. Yeah. And then wake up and wake up at like eleven and be like, oh, it's just an early day. So I can kind of like swayed in that manner. That'd be that'd be like me getting up at 4AM almost. That's what I'm thinking is like, you know, if we if I go do a if I go do the half marathon the day before,   you know, that night I'll probably sleep like soundly.  

I wake up the next morning.   If I can get home and go to bed at six and then get up at 10:30,   you know, and I'll be like, it's a bit groggy, but I can do a big day afterwards. So, you know, play it, play it around like that. But we'll see. We'll see.   Just gonna call out for Mila here, just overall support. And I have seen that, the Centimeters and even Peter has been, boosting back as well. That was We'll talk about that a little bit later. Wow, that was in the boostgram. In the previous episode. Right.   But yeah, look, I was just gonna say overall again. New New websites up. Yep. Nice and easy, nice and simple. Old website.  



[00:12:31] Kyrin Down:

I don't think it's redirecting properly. I don't know why, man. I'm  

[00:12:36] Juan Granados:

gradually working on it. Yep. Not top priority. We'll see what the look, unless, you know, details out there being more lines, where's the website going? What's going on? Look, that is annoying. All the new links are down below. Correct. But I was just gonna say from an overall, where are you seeing the value for value landscape  

[00:12:52] Kyrin Down:

across podcasts or even beyond? Yes. So maybe a podcasting two point zero update would be good here. So don't talk about it as much as I used to.   Still   very much   in tune with that community, everything that's going on there. It's kind of just   it's not stalled out. I think there's everyone's just working on,   I guess, what you would kind of call like a new genre almost, which is the   this idea of I guess, getting   radio kind of back   to maybe what   want use once used to be, which was like this real   local,   live on demand, but then being able to incorporate elements   into it. And so it's almost like   podcasts,   the new radio   in some sort of space.  

And so, for example,   being able to have something like a continual live stream, which has the book reviews, all of our podcast book reviews, memoirs of emotion, conversations,   memoirs of value. Yep. Just put that all into the screen when we go live like this, it cuts out and puts us in when new episodes released. It also like puts it to the front of the queue.   And then   being able to like intersperse other elements and things into that.   Like perhaps a, you know, it's the weather is cloudy in Brisbane or things like this.   So they're doing that. And   a lot of talk, I guess, about stable coins, and how that could be used for   the value transfer mechanism, which is something I've actually I want to want to say I've talked about this a lot. I don't think it matters what the   transfer is, whether it be Bitcoin and lightning network, which seems hideously   complicated   from everything that I've gathered, but being able to use   let's, let's see, you can do USDT   now via strike, for example.  

That mechanism for me is pretty much the same. Like if someone wants to send   us and it comes to me and somehow gets converted into Australian dollars or kind of be like, yeah, you're getting USDT Nigerian, whatever it is, if you're in Nigeria or whatever, like, I think it's doesn't matter the value transfer as long as it just the mechanism for that, just as long as it gets from one place to the other with minimal fees. That makes sense to me. So a little bit of talk about that. But that's very much related to I guess, just   the whole   money becoming more digital   in aspect.  

I'm cashless.   For the probably the first time in a long time. All my cash is gone.   Mostly because I'm like, well, I'm going to Europe. So no point having Australian dollars   my wallet, but when I get back,   will I have any cash?   You know, I'm, I'm getting to the point where I'm like, No, I probably won't need it anymore. Like the only  

[00:15:46] Juan Granados:

I've been easily cashed. Yeah, for   a long time. Yeah, I in fact,   do have some cash on me now though.   But I keep forgetting that I even have. So when we went out the other night to some chicken, I had hundreds of dollars in cash. Why? Just because we sold like something on Facebook marketplace and I just had it. And I forgot like, I was like, oh, why don't you just use that to pay with it? But every interaction now in real life or just online, it's like you just pay digitally. Just get the usage of that.  

[00:16:14] Kyrin Down:

Yeah, I  

[00:16:16] Juan Granados:

what did I see? I've been at cafe just around here where we live at the moment.   It's no cash. Like you cannot pay with cash. Yeah, pure just card only. So a lot of the hotels  

[00:16:26] Kyrin Down:

or hostels that I'm going to   a similar like no cash, everything has to be digital.   So I mean, it's the world that we're moving towards whether you're a cash fan   or not.  

[00:16:38] Juan Granados:

I relevant. A couple of people I know who are very strong cash, like pro cash. Yeah, you keep it in no matter what. Yeah, I think you're losing, you're fighting a losing battle in this time. Yeah, I get it. I get the reason for it. I very much get the reason for it. There's Yeah. If you were in Spain, you know, a week ago, cash was probably something that you wanted. Yeah. Like it's,   it's, I get it. But also   there's a rising tide on the other side that you just have to kind of maneuver. And again, look, we're talking, you have your problems or a digital perspective and going digital money?   Bitcoin, right? Bitcoin, fucking that's the, there's the ideology behind   the asset itself that   made itself manifest a long time ago. I think only again,   only when people come into the situation where something like that happens or hyperinflation etcetera, where they kind of realize, oh, that's the ideology as well that comes behind Bitcoin Beyond the technology,   beyond the monetary gains, there's   other things that are illustrably beautiful about it. Yeah, that's the everything else that you probably hear in the media day to day. Yeah, the, plus Bitcoin going up at the moment. It's like also a great thing. It's nice. There's this guy at the gym who  

[00:17:44] Kyrin Down:

is in it for the wrong reasons. He's in it to make money and every every time that I see him he's like, almost first thing   Bitcoin went up today or it's like, oh, Bitcoin went down.   I want to be like,   Mark, you'd like you need to you need a bit more of a stronger   reasoning for behind this other than just money. You're   gonna get wrecked this way. Yeah, if that's all you focus on. Look, if money gets you into it,  

[00:18:10] Juan Granados:

at least I could be the intro and then go in from from there.  

[00:18:14] Kyrin Down:

But yeah, thank you, everyone for supporting us digitally via this   mechanism of   podcasting two point zero. And the, you know, transferring satoshis to us. Yeah, we very much appreciate it. We've used it   for a lot of things supporting other podcasters.   And   even I think it's probably the only Bitcoin I have that is truly non KYC that I that I have. So that's that's a cool little stash that I've got,   In which I guess is like the new form of cash  

[00:18:46] Juan Granados:

in a way like if it's non KYC Bitcoin that would be true. I don't even like check the account is it supposed to be in it's in the the new wallet, isn't it?   Splits?  

[00:18:56] Kyrin Down:

Yeah, I, I don't even I don't even I need to look at this. I heard this really funny thing the other day, which is,   it was on podcast and two point zero, they took a snippet from like a NBC or CBC,   American American station.   And they're called like cold gold physical Bitcoin.   I love that. It was so funny. Like, yes, that is. That's   probably what if Bitcoin   flips gold.  

[00:19:25] Juan Granados:

Yeah. It's like, oh, yeah. Gold, AKA physical Bitcoin. I mean, I could imagine kids who are growing up today would probably start using that language to be like, oh, gold would be like physical Bitcoin and be like, yeah. And, you know, once upon a time it didn't exist at all. So,   good. Okay. Yep. Thank you very much. Yeah. We'll get into the June goals and this was easy outside on my side. Yeah. What are you up to going on? Nothing. There's zero goals that I'm writing down on a formal basis. Look, that's that is really because I leave here before June. I'm talking to Australia. I leave before that and I literally arrive   in July.  

So, or like, like I arrive   one day before like twenty eighth, basically in Brisbane, in, in, June 20   in here   in Australia. Oh, okay. Yeah. Gotcha. Gotcha. So I'm basically not in Australia for the monthly goals of June.   I was thinking about, you know, making it those more like overarching things where,   you know,   see the world,   be focused on that versus other things. But I kind of want to go into it just completely   free balling it.   Just whatever course comes, whatever we're doing, obviously it's going to be a focus on the enjoyment and not working as much. But if the opportunity of doing some comes up in just like in passing the time and thoughts that lead to doing things   wonderful.  

I think during that time, it'll be I'm already looking forward to some downtime of not doing all the the various works that I do. So that'll be great.   Fitness wise, like, again, I'm not putting any commitments around it. My point is just   take some running shoes,   run a lot to just, but run, not to run, but run to just to see the areas that I'm in because we're not gonna be staying   too long in most of the areas. So my thought is, well, just kind of run for an hour   every morning and just see the area around me, what that looks like from a timing perspective or anything. Who cares? It's just more doing it.   And then if Jim's come up, wonderful. And then from a podcast perspective, I'm laying out all the groundwork or doing a lot of things in preparation so that things come out while all that goes on. Yeah. So it'll happen.  



[00:21:30] Kyrin Down:

Yeah. So speaking of that, we should have   an opportunity to record in Greece. Correct. Correct. Do  

[00:21:38] Juan Granados:

there will be one there in the middle basically middle of June. There'll be a we'll do a monthly goals and just a normal episode, I guess. I don't think there's any point doing a monthly goals at that point.  

[00:21:47] Kyrin Down:

Maybe. We'll see. I wouldn't  

[00:21:49] Juan Granados:

have like, I don't reckon I'll have any for the following month, but July, I wouldn't have well, maybe. Actually, maybe I would have thought about it. Yeah. I reckon you would have. Yeah. Maybe I will. So maybe, yeah, maybe we'll do a double one there. Maybe we'll do more just little fun ones. Maybe we could do it. I mean, Joey's gonna be there. If you could do it like a comedy standup,   like a genuine, like go for like just give some one liners comedy, but through online. So that might be good. We can like, promote that for people, you know, comedy in Greece.   Actually, that would be fun if there's   a stand up in Greece, in Mykonos.  

I   would I would There's like 10,000 people there. I mean, I'd be like, we're going, we're like, we're all performing and like, no one's gonna say any of the jokes we do, but it'll be I will make it better.   Yeah. So like, look, goal was none, zero. I'm gonna have a great time. I'm gonna   this is the first time,   in a long time. When was the last time I would probably have splurged this much?   Like maybe when I was in The US in 2017,   I wouldn't have splurged on other travels and stuff. Yeah,  

[00:22:50] Kyrin Down:

well maybe.  

[00:22:51] Juan Granados:

Yeah. So it's like, it'll be good. It'll be I'm looking forward to it and not going to be like, pressed down or thinking in my mind, like I need to get some particular monthly. So for June. Yep. None. None for instance, the immortal. Yep. So I actually do have some, you know, even though  

[00:23:06] Kyrin Down:

I'm traveling,   it's I still want to have a like a focus on   the overarching   principles, I guess in my life. Yep.   As usual, I have eight.   This first one one I'll enjoy,   keep an open mind to all possibilities.   So there was a much, much laughter made it kind of not really at my expense. But there was laughter to be had the other night when I told some of my plans about traveling   in regards to the people that I'm meeting up with. Yep.   So keeping an open mind. And   that's just related to finding a partner and stuff. Yep. Okay. Prioritize friends and meetups over events, locations and and sightseeing.   So   when I'm in London, for example,   I can meet up with Sam Sethi with Nick with Oscar, that friend Vipin.  

Maybe I don't know. I'm like, I'm like Vipin, I'm coming to London, man. I haven't I haven't seen him for a year. You know, it's gonna be a very short window because he's coming back to Brisbane, I believe the week after or something. Yeah. Okay. So I was like, we got to meet up. He's like, okay.   All right, man. All right.   But yeah, I   have a lot of time to   I actually don't have that much time and every five days. It's five nights.   So it'll be like,   four solid days. Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Tuesday is completely taken up with pod camp. So,   it's actually going to be really tight. I feel I'm not gonna have much time.  

So similar to you,   I do have a idea in terms of   trying to see a bit more and squeeze that in. But I'll get to that shortly.   In terms of financial, keep a close eye on expenses and always have some liquidity handy. I'm running pretty dry. Bitcoins  

[00:24:55] Juan Granados:

gonna go back in the market. It's   not that's not happening. Put the Ethereum put them with Ethereum. Yeah, as  

[00:25:02] Kyrin Down:

I've,   I've got some   options available to me in terms of keeping myself liquid. Most expenses have been most expenses have been already paid for. Yep. But, you know, things can come up. There's,   you know, I was talking to someone recently,   his friend was trying to get into The US and it was just for like, a two month stay or something or three months. It's like he needed a visa, but it was   it was not like a serious visa because he was only going to be there   for a couple   of months. Months maybe.   And he arrived and   he just didn't have that much in his bank account.  

And   they kind of like take him into a room. They're like, how long are you playing on standing staying here for show us your expenses, something like   I can get money into this account. I just need my phone or something might take a day for the transfer.   And I kicked him out or something. Now, this is secondhand story. So there's probably a bit more to it. But yeah, it's  

[00:26:00] Juan Granados:

pretty tough. They can be pretty tough in The US about that. But I don't Yeah, I mean, I don't know what it's like in other countries.  

[00:26:05] Kyrin Down:

Rock up in Poland. I've got, you know, dollars 35.4   in my account, and they're just like, he's a king. Treat him.   Treat this man.   I'm  

[00:26:14] Juan Granados:

gonna say you're gonna rock up with like 10 copies of minecraft or something like that in the fucking bag.  

[00:26:20] Kyrin Down:

He's out. Definitely not doing that.   That would not be smart.   Okay. In terms of fitness, I   want to do two one arm handstand sessions and one run per week. So the run is Wow.  

[00:26:33] Juan Granados:

Okay. For like a little bit of sightseeing? A little bit of sightseeing. Yeah. So  

[00:26:38] Kyrin Down:

you know how long it would be?   Dunno, you know, probably around that five ks mark. But yeah, that is probably my opportunity to   actually   get out to places in terms of sightseeing of things, you know, run past Big Ben.   Check it out. That's probably all you need to do, to be honest. Yeah. So   that that's kind of my power bridge, all those sort of things. Yeah, little, little rough idea of doing that. I   think I'll be able to do two sessions per week. I'm actually I've done the math, and it'll be onethree of the volume in comparison to what I'm doing now. So even though it's like two sessions per week, I'm also making them shorter in terms of handstand time.   So   hopefully, I'll   just be able to maintain   for the next kind of two months. And then get back into the swing of things again. And maybe this maintenance will   yield some results as well in terms of like,  

[00:27:34] Juan Granados:

new improved gains off the back of it. Yeah.  

[00:27:36] Kyrin Down:

So that's kind of my little plan for that I actually   booked a hostel in Hamburg with a calsex gym right?   Like an outdoor gym right opposite.   Of course, the weather is gonna be shit. I know it's gonna be shit for the four days that I'm there. But that's fine. You know, at least it'll be close by to use.   Okay.   In terms of,   I guess, is spirituality,   there's a bit of a weird one. So I said, fight with everything in your power to not feel emotionally bad. So one thing I've noticed at times whilst traveling,   is   you'll see people   doing stuff, I guess, which   you wish you had in your character that you could do. So for example, I'm going to be in like,   a hostel for a couple of these locations, then for   Britain, for London, for example, I was like, I'm gonna go for a party hostel. Why not?  

Sure, I'm probably not going to actually have that much time to party with people. So I'll probably be hanging out with other friends and stuff. But nice to be in that environment. And yeah, I want to be in an environment where it's like, you know, I can just chat with people and, and get me into the mood   for traveling.   And what I've noticed sometimes is like, yeah, there's people who you meet who are just like, charming, maybe they've worked on it, probably not more likely they're just naturally what   they and you'll see them like,   being able to,   you know,   just make jokes with people get on make everything looks easy.  

And   there's, I know, there's been times in the past when I've been like,   fuck, like, why can't I be like them? Why can't   I you know, why is it not this easy for me, in terms of like meeting people or   whatever it is. And   yeah, I want to just make sure like,   when those negative thoughts creep in, I'll be like,   come, come down, Karen, like, you know, take a breath.   Remember your Zen. Remember, like, what you're here to do. You're not you're not here to, like, party and go out with these people. You're here to, like, meet other friends. And the hardest thing about the hardest thing about the goal, I mean, like, this is the thing that that particular goal, because I remember or I have  

[00:29:46] Juan Granados:

written similar things in a different aspects, but how will you go about trying to remember that in the moment? Because that's the hardest thing, you know, you say it now. Yeah. It's the hardest thing is when it's happening and you're in the negative state that how do you try to   break that pattern or remember like,   oh, yeah, no, I've got to rebel against it. That's that's the hardest bit. Yeah, I think  

[00:30:07] Kyrin Down:

probably the main thing is,   it's actually really, really hard to break out of state. So if you're already   done, I mean, what's your like, state breaker? Right? Honestly, I   don't think there's that much you can do, or I can do. And it's more   the analysis after the fact or perhaps the,   you know,   an hour later,   can I can I take a breath and be gone like, okay,   doesn't really matter?  

[00:30:35] Juan Granados:

So well, I'd be keen to hear how you go with it. And like after the month,   how if you have actually managed to,   like when it when it came up, if you reflectively, like you reflect on a day later, go fuck, like I didn't do it again. This happened. Like what's going on? Yeah, yeah. Because hard at the moment, that's a difficult thing.   I saw Stephen Bartlett in one of the like vlogs,   you do that if he's done too many days in a row where he's just like shit sleep or shit   eating or something else, like he didn't train or something like that, he changes his wallpaper to just straight red. Like it's just highlight like super bright red so that every time he like looks at his phone and opens it up, it's kind of advising him like, Hey, you've been shit the last couple of days. Like this is your reminder, can I get better? That's like a bright red screen. That's kind of like, what's your thing that like breaks your state to go like,   fuck, like, yeah, yep, I'm gonna improve in this. So it doesn't have to be a bright red screen, but I'll tell you like, what's your, what might be the trigger that helps you to go, Wait a minute. No,   don't be tough for myself emotionally and be like, No, I can do this. I can do this. So good. Yeah, that's I think the right trigger would help trigger into demon mode. The bright red screen and mode.  



[00:31:45] Kyrin Down:

You know, we had a little message   last night, because it was,   you sent me a very kind message, which was, you know, Mother's Day. Wait, when was Mother's Day? Is it like today? Yep. There you go.   And it's been almost   just over a year since since mom passed. And you know, you took the opportunity to give your mom an extra hug, things like this.   I want to do the same thing, you know, with the time that I have with people.   My first time in Europe.   So that's a special event.   Make the most of it. Life is short. Everyone says this, but it's so easy to go a year and then just be like, Oh, well, where the fuck did that year ago? And they're going quicker.   So   especially in Greece, I think we want to want to savor it in as much as I can be like, you know,   here we are here we are looking for the side of the side of   I'd prefer to eat some Baklava or something, but, you know, I could could do that as well. I was here to lick some of the people there.  

Maybe, maybe they're tasty.   There's bronzed bronze gods.   Last two here, work on being more courageous.   So this one is   a small thing where I can   my default for non confrontation can get in the way of   I know I can get over this   in certain things. So for example,   yesterday was I believe an open day in   the new stead, total fusion, total fusion.   I've wanted to go there for a while in terms of an actual workout to see what it's like. So I was potentially thinking like, oh, I might do a split thing where I could go to this one and the Morningside 1.   And, you know, the friend that I had, who was going there, who I could have gone with, she wasn't here for this weekend. So I was like, Okay, well, you know, I guess I could just go there and   then try and like weasel my way in a little bit. But then I'm like, Oh, that kind of strict.  



[00:33:43] Juan Granados:

And they've got these fingerprint gates. So it's really strict. They're really strict about to piss myself and then let me in.   Go away.  

[00:33:51] Kyrin Down:

So but when I went and was like,   there's an easy way of doing this because you just need a friend to invite you in. So all I'd have to do is just hang out by the door. See a random person be like, Oh, hey, excuse me. Do you actually go to this gym?   Bit random, but my friend canceled on me or she can't make it. Can I be your friend five minutes and get in?   You don't have to do that. What? Probably on the first go someone would just be like, Yeah,  

[00:34:16] Juan Granados:

nothing on them. No impact on them. Yeah.  

[00:34:19] Kyrin Down:

You know, it's the   fear of  

[00:34:22] Juan Granados:

It's not even confrontation.   It's  

[00:34:24] Kyrin Down:

fear of rejection.   Which is,   you know, what if I accidentally ask a staff member and then they're like, No, you can't do that.   You know?   And   so I didn't end up doing it was fine, because I was gonna go to an event afterwards in the area, which didn't happen anyway. So,   you know, it, it wasn't the worst thing in the world. But those are the like little moments where it's like, oh, maybe I shouldn't jump this fence because, you know, the police will be looking. Maybe I shouldn't do this thing because this thing will happen.   And   some of my favorite moments in the past while traveling.  

Well, from from just being a bit silly for being like, oh, yeah, you know what?   Stop it. I'll do this thing. If something bad happens, then I can just be like, oh, sorry, I didn't know the rules or, you know, yeah, that sort of thing. So we're doing here like   manageable. Yeah, no, not insane.   Illegal things. But like I said, you know, I could have had access to a gym and   I guess like a an event   for   zero cost, maybe even make a new friend at the same time. And  

[00:35:33] Juan Granados:

it just takes a bit of courage to do that.   So I've got I've got an interesting polar opposite story of this very this morning. So I went to the gym, the gym I go to not stopped until eight in the morning.   And this guy, I was wearing my had my headphones in five in the morning, had my headphones in, just got out of the car, was walking towards the gym and a guy was kind of like hanging around with a towel over his shoulder.   And he like started talking to me as I was kinda like going out the gym, like put my headphones on. Did he not listen to last week's where you made it very clear that you don't want to meet new people? Yeah, well, he basically   was like, oh, hey man, like, do you know when the staff hours,   you know, Yale for this gym are? Yeah. And again, you could look it up on Google. So I'm like, you're just talking shit right now, man. Yeah. Yeah. So I basically looked it up and I was like, oh, it's 8AM, man. It's 5AM. So I was like, yeah. It's a bit I was like, do you have a membership? And he's like, no. I'm out from out of town. I'm usually a biker, a runner.  

But I don't have the membership. So I was just thinking of like, you know, going in but and of course everyone you're listening to this. Of course, you realize it's like he wants to go in. Yeah. How can you let me in? Yeah. I stayed at him for   twenty five seconds. Not saying anything to each other. Five in the morning. I'm just standing there like, like Ali, like just stood there after he said that, I'd be like, one of the guys just kinda like   stared,   stared,   stared,   stared. Eventually he was like,   Yeah, I probably can't get in today, can I? I was like, and he's like, Oh, is there a fine? I said, Yeah, those are fine. He said, Okay. Anyway, have a good day, man. And walked away. I just sat and stayed at him until he like broke. And I was like, See that's I'm like, I don't know what you want. I'm not gonna because in the back of my mind, I was like, oh, should I break and let this guy in and just be like, look, whatever. Just good. What I was thinking was if it was close enough to opening time, then you could like double back and go talk to the staff member and pay or whatever. Yeah. But I was like, no, this dude's still gonna hang around. Yeah. I'm not getting a fine. So I was like, no, I'm just gonna wait until this dude and I'm like flat set of the eyeballs. I remember like the color of the exact eyeballs as I watching him say. Is that man? Apologies. But He's probably the version of me like he's done a podcast with his friend. He's like, I need to be more courageous.   I'm just gonna do it like I'm gonna It's not dangerous, I'm gonna try and you just come for the person just in fact. If you were fucking the new far place and you asked them like to be your friend and they just stared at you.  

They're like, oh no, I didn't even know I could get this bad. It's like, oh God. You haven't just not made a friend. You've made an enemy. Yeah exactly   exactly. That's right. Most humans are not like that. So that just so happened this morning with, I was listening, I'm sorry. That's a bit more of an ask than I would have been doing. I was listening to Jocko Willink,   talking about like death and war just before then as well for like a good hour. So I was like,   mindset was kind of like prepped in with like   pretty fuck off mood. So yeah, sure. Sorry about that. Well, I was trying to, I was not, that was not bad, but intended to stay. So,  

[00:38:24] Kyrin Down:

nice. Any other? Yeah. Last one is, for the Morpheus AI stuff.   So last episode of that the season one coming out tomorrow,   well, would have been already come out   for this one. And   yeah, it was fun doing that. I enjoyed doing it.   Will I do more in the future? Maybe if there's a see,   you know, more events, more traction, more more things going on that I want to talk about with it.   But yeah, AI is certainly   I'm glad I made it my goal for this year just to experiment more learn more because   my brother recently just subscribed   to GPT for the  

[00:39:04] Juan Granados:

$30 1. Yeah. What's that called? It's called the Pro  

[00:39:08] Kyrin Down:

Plus Plus. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I believe our friend Mitchell said he was going to do the same as well. So obviously a lot of people are using it,   not even for business stuff, but just for just for anything. Well, kind of for my brother. He does use it for the property management   things. But yeah, it's   certainly starting to play more of a   role.   You went to the Hypodome recently saw some drones. Correct. That was some drone parking. Yeah, drone parking. So that's that's not AI. That's robots.  

[00:39:35] Juan Granados:

That's pretty that's pretty wild. I didn't I didn't know that those things. I don't know what they do. Yeah, that's what the drones are doing. You can get drones that carry you. There are drones now at the end. Like they can carry you fully. No, but there was also one of the guys that I look after in Canberra. He builds drones. He custom like builds drones and puts the algorithm on it for driving or something like that. And I was like,   damn. I was like, I said, damn, like, dude, what are you doing here? You can go do something better than like that you could you had your skills. But, hey, man. It's I mean, for the very fact of getting you just stuck into the language and what's going on and what I think it's a powerful thing. Yeah. And it's it's let me keep more of an  

[00:40:14] Kyrin Down:

eyes. I still think probably from everything that I've seen,   actual agent use is maybe like   a year or two off terms of   like, I'm not even seeing   really anyone using agents.   As far as I can tell.   Actually.  

[00:40:33] Juan Granados:

Yeah,   I haven't seen them in the way that you like, imagine it. Yeah. And when I say agents, I'm talking about, you know,  

[00:40:41] Kyrin Down:

without the new Gmail for me,   so that I can get,   you know, email subscriptions from like, for stuff that I don't care about, you know, use my my standard, like default password, it already knows what your password is, because you've told it it for other things. And it's able to do that, you know, that's, that's the kind of like,   what I think is a basic construction, but I've yet to see anything that that can do something like that.  

[00:41:07] Juan Granados:

And it doesn't and it doesn't even even if that was the case, it doesn't necessarily make me excited because I've seen   like the ability to do that with just scripting has been around for such a long time. It would be the ability to basically create the script but do it in a way that it's smart enough to like gather all this data and do it. There's some out there but again it's just it's   the problem will always come in the interfaces. So it's in the interface and the integrations that all the damage comes, right? When you do any type of development,   the within an existing system, it's actually really, really easy. It's the integration layers that's always always problematic. And again, once you start getting agentic,   into play between lots of layers,   that's where the happens because where it's gonna break is,   yeah, okay, you submit the password, but what happens if you get a four zero three error that comes through right now? Okay, are you putting in the script that a four zero three comes up? You refresh it, you hard refresh it, you go to another website, you open it in private. It needs to know like, oh, just add an extra character to the end of the password because you've already used that password. Exactly. Now, I probably like in mind, like it might eventually get to such levels of permutations, but maybe there's some there's like some inherent human things that we do that are not what would be called the machine to machine operator. So when you, for those at home,   I'll go on Olympia, but I'm not an expert at this, but if you were to build an API,   you can have an API that's for a web layer, you can have an API that's a machine to machine API and   the machine to machine doesn't have to have as much authentications   and security models and everything else. This is machine to machine, it's very different to what then you need it to go through any authenticating system or web UI layer. That's, you know, it's very different things. And so,   you know, you can have both models. So you start getting these things sort of like, okay, you have machine to machine, but then you have some systems that   are interface like a human, not a machine. So then you've got different layers that are on top of it. All of that, right? There's   it'll take time for I think it will eventually it's just it's not there yet on the yet in those levels. Yeah, I'm still I find myself  

[00:43:07] Kyrin Down:

still getting increasingly frustrated with   just just trying to get answers to simple things. I had to pay some customs for   my V friends cards to come in. And the whole process seemed very   opaque to me like, why why am I paying this charge? Why this charge? So I just wanted to be like,   you know, FedEx sent me this bill. Can you explain it to me? Is can you verify that these charges should be paid?  

[00:43:31] Juan Granados:

Do you use Venice? I use Venice rubbish.   Use o three I  

[00:43:37] Kyrin Down:

tried   GPT   it was better, but still   not as helpful as I would have wanted.   It was better. It was definitely better than better sort of shit.   But that's alright. You know, there's   I see the improvements. So  

[00:43:54] Juan Granados:

where, if you want to play around with Mint, this monthly goes, I don't know, but   at the moment, no, no models that do imagery can do like handsets properly. Still, you make them do handsets, they just all fuck up still.   And also if you take something that you really, really, really, really know well and you try to get them to interplay or do something, you can really spot where it's still missing. But for me, it's fitness. I've gotten   heaps of different models to try and create for me like my training schedule for the next month,   include, you know, certain things and I give it all these details   and it produces things that are like basic bitch training plans and I go,   you haven't thought of this, you haven't thought of that, what about this? And so,   part of it, it could be that I need more info or more prompting to get it better.  

So it could just, it could just be that but when you look into things that you really really know well,   it'll produce something   that meets the general demand but not probably at the more advanced levels for sure. And I've seen this in like my partner using it for you know genomics and stuff like that. It's good   but there is limitations to it that it comes as well. Anyway, so that's Monthly Goals. I hope you enjoyed this absolutely wide ranging conversation of Monthly Goals. Speaking of fitness,  

[00:45:02] Kyrin Down:

so we've kind of touched upon it a lot. But I will be having a another handstand video maybe two, if I can get a one more sneaky recording in this this Tuesday or Wednesday   of my handstand progress. And that should showcase like,   the main four variations that I'm doing of workouts   for them.   They're still ticking along, you know, still getting like,   pretty consistent, like two to three second holds of just   on an average day now, which is pretty good. And then,   like, I got a longish one probably like   six seconds. I think the other day it was Brandon, which was good. Didn't get it on camera, unfortunately, but   was was good. Good. So ticking along with that.  

Cardio. I mean, maybe I'll get some cardio when I'm well,  

[00:45:52] Juan Granados:

when you're overseas. How big is Mykonos? We run around it? I think we can it's a pretty big though. You wouldn't I mean, it's not five kilometres, I think. 20 ish kilometres probably all the way around. We could do a couple of half marathons   around the place. Some might be a bit of fun for that, right?   Yeah.   Right. He'll be sleeping.   Yeah. Look, we'll leave it there in the morning. We've got, we've got a bit over. Monthly goals, once again, share with us. We'll definitely   check and see things. Know yours. What are your monthly goals? Love to hear those. Yeah, yeah. We'll be talking about, we'll probably, we'll do it   in the June period for the July timeframe. And then for me, I'll be having new annual goals that come up in August. So I won't be talking about it in July, but then the filling one, it'll get, yeah, hectic. There's a lot of things already. I was just about to start talking on my end. I'll say, I'll say, because there's some   fun ones, fun ones and I'm ready to invest some high dollar redo's   on some like fun stuff, very fun stuff. So,   that that'll be to come in the Immortal Ads. So be ready.  

Believe it then. Be well wherever you are in the world. Thank you very much for tuning in live or if you've listened to this afterwards. One out.