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Unfortunately I'm coming back home early.

In Episode #445 of 'Meanderings' Juan & I discuss: why time is flying so fast, how I have somehow managed to avoid Dengue, Juan complaining about a sandpit and hurting his foot (again), deciding when/if to get out of your comfort zone, finally achieving a stalder press and how Juan has big arms but hates arm day.

Huge thanks to Broadreach Music & Cole McCormick for supporting the show. We really appreciate your contribution!

Timeline:
(00:00:00) Intro
(00:00:41) Big V's First Birthday
(00:04:01) Camelodromo: Crazy markets
(00:09:56) Living in the moment ... apart from bugs!
(00:13:05) I'm coming back to Australia
(00:20:28) A ship shaped sandpit
(00:22:32) Why I need a girl with home decor taste
(00:24:41) Boostagram Lounge
(00:32:11) Being uncomfortable in crowds
(00:38:53) The benefits of doing the reps
(00:47:42) I GOT MY FIRST STALDER!
(00:55:24) A little rock becomes destroyer of worlds
(01:00:29) Juan hates arm day?!
(01:05:07) V4V: Time/Talent/Treasure

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[00:00:06] Kyrin Down:

Welcome, mere mortalites, to another round of the mere mortals   meanderings.   You've got Kyrin here on this side of the world. You've got Juan on the other side too. And we are here live on the 4th of 5th 2024.   So may the 4th be with you, Juan.  

[00:00:23] Juan Granados:

And And straddling the straddling dates.  

[00:00:25] Kyrin Down:

Yeah. A meanderings episode is where we're kind of like loose form. There's no particular topic for today. I've got some notes, some developments indeed.   Juan probably also has some notes and developments from interesting things going on over on his side. And I wanted to ask him because   today is indeed the day,   the big day,   Big V's birthday because she is now officially   1 year old. Juan, you've got a 1 year old. Exactly. Girl, that's that's amazing, man. Congrats.   How's how's 1 year of parent life been?  

[00:00:58] Juan Granados:

I think it's the often   voided, very   applicable thing where it's the days are long, but the years are short. It kind of feels like the year man went so quick. Like we're reflecting back on a few drinks later last night and going through photos and everything like that. And we're going like, wow, man.   I went through it so quick. And I hear this happened that we did this and oh my god, we made it happen and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But then still, you then recognize that the days man feels   so long,   even to the point of, say, last night.  

A clear example. So, you know, everything good that comes with with parenting.   Wasn't. But then, you know, going into her so yesterday was her birthday party. Today's actual birthday.   And   she couldn't she couldn't, you know, go into   her being 1 year old without   doing one final   of her usual   terrible sleeping pattern. So last night, and you know, she had a big like party and didn't really sleep that well yesterday. So her sleeping pattern   last night was that she woke up between   went down at 6:30 or 6:20. Between that to about   8 or 9 o'clock,   she woke up 5 or 6 times.  

And then another time at 10, then at midnight, then at 2 am. And then that was it.   I shouldn't get back down after that. So that pretty decent like man, it may it may it may it may it may it days.   Exceptionally long, but the year feels really short. So overall, I mean, it was good. Like, it's good to get together. I mean, yeah, recognising that things just go, it just goes even quicker from now on, to be fair.   It's one of those that I don't know,   a lot of people use, I think they need meditation,   or some other practices or kind of be mindful of where you're at.   And I think for me, that has always been   gym going and fitness,   for the large part unless I'm really not feeling it. So again, another example yesterday,   I wanted to do some training in the morning and   we can save maybe some of the fitness a little bit later but man it was just so woeful woeful woeful woeful. And so I couldn't get myself   in the in the moment, right? Mine was just going out elsewhere.  

But it is true to see I think the whole time   with V   And I'm sure it will continue that I'm with her. It is   it's really easy to be in the moment. Like, it's supremely easy. I think when I often   I thought, honestly, if I had to really think about it, okay, oh, you know, I've had maybe some problems in the past when I'm I'm with family and with my partner or something, and my mind is going a million miles now trying to think of other things to do. I thought, okay, I want to improve that. So it's really good when I'm with v.   That hasn't proved to be the case. It just seems by default I can just get in the moment with a really, really easy. So,   yeah, man, overall,  

[00:03:48] Kyrin Down:

it was it's been a good year. It's been a good year. Nice. I'm glad to hear that, man. Yeah, we'll definitely get on to the,   the fitness stuff at the end because I've got a I've got a win that's worthy worthy of celebrating   the. Good. Good. It's funny you mentioned the getting in the moment sort of thing because,   I think I have now officially been in Brazil for a month. I arrived on the 4th of,   of   April. Wow. That went quick. Yeah. I know. Right. So it's a very similar thing for me where it's like, oh, damn. This is a full month. That's it's just gone by really quickly.   And   yet the days   I could also say, yeah. You know what? That was a long day, man. I was, you know, the other day, for example, yesterday I was on my feet for a long time because I, I went to the center of Londrina for the first time. So I probably walked around there   for, you know,   3, 3 ish hours,   mandate.  

This is one thing I forgot that   Latin America has.   The the place I went was I still don't know how to pronounce it and how it's spelled. It's something called like Carmelo   Carmelo.   And   I was basically I Lucas was dropping   his girlfriend and his girlfriend's mom off in the to the the bus stop in Londrina. And then they were going out and I'm like, oh, take me along with you. I'll say goodbye. And then you can drop me off in the center because it's right near right nearby.   And so,   I get there and one of the things I have been planning to do for a while is to actually buy some shirts. Looks like I was like, I'll get back, you know, the classic Brazilian shirt to add to my collection   from a lot of the other countries. My brother also was saying that he wanted one, so I'm like, all right, all right, I'll, I'll go do this. And   walking around. It's really hard to find a store which has   merch even not even the legit stuff, the illegitimate stuff. It was really hard to find.  

I went to a couple of secondhand stores and they had, you know, bits and bobs. I'd find a shirt, but it'd be too small or be too large, it'd be too crappy or something.   And then I finally got 2 recommendations in a row of they're like, yeah, go to this place called Carmelo   And,   and Lucas in the chat writes, Carmelo dromo.   And   I'm like, Carmelo dromo. I was, I was, I was like, okay, you know, how do I type this in? They're like, no, you can't really type it in into a map. You have to just go down, just go down these blocks 5 ways this way and then you'll find it. And I was thinking like, is this a stork? So I wouldn't really explain it properly.   I found another place and they're also like, you know, it's like all signs point this one direction. Just go this way, go this way.  

So I eventually end up walking down and I find this   I go where I'm meant to be. I'm on the street, I'm looking around.   Nothing. There's nothing standing out. So I'm just like, Ah, these people are just full of shit.   You know,   not helpful.   And I just keep doing my thing. I'm walking,   walk past another store. I'm like, oh, I might check out this one. I'll walk to the end just to make sure. And then,   as I was walking past this place, it was basically if you remember   cinemas back in the day, they used to have this kind of big ramp up or at least the one in the Hyperdome did or a lot of them did where it would be like just a very   slightly. I do know what you're talking about. Yep. I imagine this was for accessibility reasons. That was probably   one of the reasons I imagine. Well, and just they needed lots of space for like   super crowded   releases of films and things like this. And it was kind of like that. It was just this slow ramp up into this area. I'm like, oh, okay. And it was inside of the this this building complex. I'm like, oh, okay. I walk in and it's just an absolute   maze of shops. It's basically,   you know, divide   a   a 3 story   Maya center into   compartments of maybe   the size of this room. So like 3 meters,   by 2 meters by, you know, 3 meters high. And that's what this place is, is just full of these tiny little nooks and crannies of   everything. And I have everything there. And they had a lot of shirts there I found pro I probably walked past 15 different stores which sold Brazilian shirts.  

So I did find the Camilo Camilo Gromo.   And that, I have seen. Was it worthy of finding? Yeah, definitely, man. It's just a you're never going to find anything like this in Australia.   You know, health and safety regulations out the window. I don't know how people get merch in or out. It must be so highly inefficient   and breaking all of the codes of   safety of, you know, proper planning and things like this.   The amount of, you know,   inauthentic.   Yeah. Just secondhand   rip offs, rip offs, knock offs of everything you could want there. It's it's just like, you know, this is Brazil. This is the this is the the kind of crazy stuff where, you know, it's mostly black Australia. And then you'll find places like this where you're like, oh, okay, now we would not have anything even close to this.  

[00:08:45] Juan Granados:

It's,   that it's an interesting one that we're,   if you've never kind of gone out of Australia and you've never experienced that, if someone told you it, like, oh, they do this and they do that, you'd almost   you couldn't,   maybe conceptualize is the wrong word, but you couldn't put in your mind that that could exist because your   foundation of how something has been built up or how a shop has to be done. I was like, well, but, you know, where's the regulation for this? Or how would they do that? And it's like, no, no, no, you don't get it. It's like when you go it. It's like when you go to these places, it's now they just they just do it. Like, that's just what happens. I imagine going to an Egyptian bazaar  

[00:09:21] Kyrin Down:

or one of those ones in I think it's Thailand or Vietnam where that they built right next to a train line. And so everyone has to pack their shop up as the train comes through. And then as soon as it comes   as is finished passing through all the awnings come back down again. All that stuff where it's just like,   you're trying to explain that but you really do need a video or something   different to, to a pretty cute girl and one of those as well.   She was like authentic,   authentic Brazilian from like outside of the,   the the kind of rich area. And I was chatting with her for a bit, which was pretty cool.  

But yeah, getting on to the   the living in the moment   when I hang out with Lucas, it's really nice because   it kind of takes me back to when we were training together in Brisbane and we, you know, we had our routine of we'd go out to the south bank and we'd just be out by the river. And now it takes   where we parked, it would take a decent walking time just to get into the place. Then with, you know, faff around with, with Walmart would stretch, then we'd probably do like 2 hours of actual work and then we'd just do it all again, warm down, faff around, go back, maybe grab something to eat.   And it's in the kind of like faffing around where you just, you know, you just enjoy in the moment. Yeah, you're appreciating it. And then what will take me out of the moment is fucking bugs, man. These little pieces of shit   just constantly get me. I'm pretty sure I've talked about this before where   there's one thing I cannot meditate through and that is ants crawling on me or bugs crawling on me. It is   infuriating.  

I it's my my, you know, my one and only weakness, I swear.   And man, the bugs here are off chops. And   before I arrived in Brazil, I didn't know there was, you know, an outbreak, a plague of dengue going around as well. So I've had to be. Oh, damn. Yeah. Stocking up on the heparinci, the repellent. And   when I came here, I brought 1 kilo of Tim Tams.   And I'll talk about some news slightly,   in a minute. But coming back, I would bring I would bring 1 kilo of of repellent of mosquito repellent. And and I could probably sell it and make it like a decent fortune from that. Like a good amount. I mean, wow. Just quickly on the on the same thing with the,  

[00:11:38] Juan Granados:

animals. So I might tell the story a little bit light of building of sand pits, but I was building a sand pit just yesterday and a   was it like a   little slug worm thing fell on my back. I couldn't reach it because like rather the point where I couldn't reach it in the middle of my back and that was like driving me in saying classic muscle man.  

[00:11:57] Kyrin Down:

Do you know what? Yeah. What they call muscle men here in,   in Brazil?   It's my it's my favorite. It's my favorite, Portuguese word. Bombadong.   You're a bombadong man. Bombad. Bombadong. Bombadong. Bombadong. Yeah. That's good. It's, it's it it describes, you know, the way it sounds is what it describes.  

[00:12:15] Juan Granados:

It's exactly. Bombadong. Yeah. I like it. I like it. That's very good. Luke's in the  

[00:12:19] Kyrin Down:

chat is saying how it's so funny how I get mad so easily. And it's true, man. Just a couple of bugs and   it can really take me out. It's all over. But what will get me back into the mood, you know, is lying down and just staring up at the sky. I think that's probably the,   if you, if you ever feel like you're, you're in the, you know, life's going too fast so you can't get in the moment or something like that. I think lying down and just staring up at the sky is is a pretty surefire   way to,   just get you to chill out a little bit and appreciate the moment.   So I did that and I was like, oh, yeah. This is nice. And then the bugs got me on me again and was like, fuck this. Gotta move around. Shut these little shits off. You you  

[00:12:59] Juan Granados:

got you got a levitate.  

[00:13:01] Kyrin Down:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:13:02] Juan Granados:

Even then you got the flies and shit like that. Exactly. Exactly.  

[00:13:06] Kyrin Down:

I think I'll I've hinted at it just then, so I'll bring up my news.   Mom has had a fall in the hospital.   I got this text a couple of days ago from dad and has   broken.   I think it was c c 2, c 3, 2 and 3,   vertebrae is on her neck.   And this is not good at all. Not not good.   So   the   apparently, it's called a terminal event, basically meaning, like,   they were suggesting surgery   perhaps, but just with her condition overall, it's like it's it's not gonna help anything. It's   I'm I'm trusting dad and the doctors on this. Like, I'm not, you know, I've abdicated responsibility   and   being able to have any influence or sway on matters like that.  

But yeah, basically,   the the end is is near. And so I've booked a flight back to Australia, so I'll be flying back tomorrow.   So the next podcast we'll actually do together again, I imagine.   And yeah, I'll just be staying there for the,   you know, immediate future, which is probably going to just be you know, mom's passing away funeral and   we'll we'll   see where that is, what time that is. And I would love to come back to Brazil   and and kind of continue on here. But, yeah, just got to just gotta see how all of that goes,   which is Mhmm. Do you see how the how the flow of of life goes with that? Yeah. You know what? The the the funniest thing about all of this is   I haven't been as sad as I would have thought, especially when it's like,   okay. You know, this is this is kinda like the the crunch time, but, you know, the diagnosis is days,   if if not weeks, like,   days probably, maybe maybe weeks.  

And,   you know, I was I've just been kind of reflecting on that. And I just it just hasn't   hurt me as much as   as some of the other   progressions   or   what would you call it? The declines that she's had. And for those who don't know, without time is it's usually   relatively stable and then that will just be a sudden drop. It's it's not it's not usually like a linear downwards. It's   the the drops can be rather sudden and they can be   very,   very,   kind of like require a lot of changes.   So   whether this be in behavior, whether this be in   perception, whether this be in memory,   you know,   all of those things can change.  

And, you know, so I was just thinking, I was actually wondering this just by typing into Google and   going on to Reddit and places like that are kind of helpful. And   there was this thing called   ambiguous   grief, which is   what   it was on like the dementia subreddit. And a lot of people were just saying you know,   I've I lost my   my mom or my dad or my loved one   a long time ago, they're still alive. But,   you know, I've kind of lost them already.   And   the actual   moment of passing   the or like the lead up to passing,   you know, they didn't feel sad. They didn't feel   anything really. It was kind of like just a numbness,   maybe even some some like, you know, joy or relief that   either their pain or your pain or and everything like that is. Yeah. Yeah. And well, I don't know. I'm going to talk to my brother and dad about this as well. Just just see how they're going because, obviously, it's it's kinda hard to communicate whilst here. But,   I'm I'm sure I'll be very sad on the actual time she passes because that's   the the crunch moment. But it's also   I don't know. It's it's a very weird feeling. Very weird feeling at the moment.  



[00:17:00] Juan Granados:

Yeah. No. I, because I was gonna say the   I can't remember why I was talking about this just recently.   I think it was about I know what jazz but was saying something around. And again, this was from another from another time of   how we go through life.   Our recognition of life is that, you know, like V, she's had a birthday, you go from 1 to 2. And then for me, for us, you know, 30 to 31 to 32 to 33, right? You sort of time passes, and it is life continuing.   But another way to actually look at it is,   it's, you know, kind of dying every day in in other sense. Like looking at it the opposite way, it is just you're just slowly dying to a point that you will die and a terminal thing will happen. And those of you sort of saying that it kind of made me   recognize that a lot of the   maybe the grief or the surprise or the fear that comes with the end   is that it is unknown.  

It is the so I give you the example I guess as a parent, it's sometimes the worry of oh my god, what's going to happen to my child if x happens or this happens?   Where in positions like this,   it's known.   And so   there's a lot   of grieving and sadness that   already gets front loaded.   Because it's already an expectation with with a timeline to it. And now, I mean, as you're explaining it then, you know, you've been given a prognosis of   days or weeks and you know, you're making the move back for being here for a little while to go through that process.   But the sadness, it's now a certainty.  

And in certainty, you remove a lot of the fear, you remove a lot of the anxiety,   and it's more of you can much quicker get to acceptance. Plus you've gone through a lot of the sadness in the past. But for sure, I don't I don't think it's gonna change what happened to Crunch Time. You're right in that. But I think   in knowing some things, it removes some,   some of that maybe,   unexplained fear that you might have just because you don't know what's going to go on. Yeah. I see. I still  

[00:19:02] Kyrin Down:

when I wake up here,   you know, I'm I kind of dread the first looking at my phone because if I'm gonna, you know, receive a WhatsApp message or something from the family, it's   there's a there's a decent chance, 1 in 3 chance, I guess, that'll be right in the in the morning when I when I wake up,   and would would get the news like that way. So,   yeah. Yeah. There's there's still some aspects of that, but it's I mean, it's that age old debate, right? Of, you know, if   would you rather die from, like, you know, getting   it's not would you rather die? What would you rather for your family? You dying from cancer or you dying from a, you know, a sudden unexplained you know, plane crash or car car crash or something like that. And it's like, well, you know, both are pretty shit.  

And   it's just how   how how would they respond to it? How would,   and I I think I don't know. I've I've never had a a sudden passing away of of a loved one, so I I can't comment on that.   But, I imagine it's it's just hard in a different way. You know, it's,   the   even though you can know certain things,   the how you imagine it might   fold out over time or progress over time is radically different to   what actually happens or or things like that. What actually happens? Yeah.   Yeah. For sure. Yeah. No. For sure. Should we go on some some minor topics  

[00:20:24] Juan Granados:

on booster groups? I think we will be.   Well, I was gonna quickly I'll give you I'm gonna give you a lighter one, folks. Maybe you have just some frustration, and then we'll get into,   the the booster grams. So  

[00:20:36] Kyrin Down:

Who who screwed up your pizza order this week, man? Call him out.  

[00:20:41] Juan Granados:

No. It wasn't a pizza order this time.   It was a sandpit.   It was a sandpit.   So I purchased well, we purchased the sandpit a few weeks ago from Bunnings. So I'm gonna call them out Bunnings, which is a big, you know, the big hardware store here in Australia.   And   it was in the shape of a boat. So   maybe I should have known already at that first initial point that there was gonna be some problems.   Now, this thing   was   so complex to build.   It had we had 3 adults doing this all at the same time, holding pieces to make it together. And this is maybe a week ago that we're doing it. And we're trying to put it together. Took us maybe over 2 and a half hours to put it all together.   And the only bit that was missing was like a few little things because it started raining at that time. So like, cool. We'll pause it   now. Yesterday   sorry, the day before before, Vienna's birthday party, we're like, okay, we wanna finish this. I should it's ready for her. Philip would say, and for her birthday,   Lo and behold, putting on the final pieces, they did not line up. They didn't cut the wood properly. And it did not fit at all. And we're like, damn.  

So I ended up having to go to Bunnings yesterday morning to return it to get a new sandpit. This time I made the decision of going for a square one that had less issues.   But it still took me like hours to put together and still not even finished. So my little learning here, folks on   I don't know, complexities   when it comes to things like kids sandpit or other things. Keep it keep it simpler. If you're if you're thinking of a boat shape or a star shape or something, I think   the initial, like, idea   feels like it would be a really cool thing.  

[00:22:19] Kyrin Down:

But, you know,  

[00:22:21] Juan Granados:

for the for the for the stress and for the annoyance and everything, from now on, I'm like, just just stick to the easy shapes,  

[00:22:28] Kyrin Down:

square, triangle, whatever, man. Just forget this complex looking thing. That is home decor to a tee for me and why I definitely need to find a girl who   can can like put her foot down and be like, no,   we're getting the useless   inconvenient thing because it looks pretty. And that's the way it goes.   The apartment   I'm in now,   Yara has just like lots of greenery. She's got pot plants with vines and,   you know, all sorts of different plants and things like that. And,   you know, they're they're fine. They they don't really do anything.   You know, they require watering   and and she's watered them. So that that's great. But   meant just the amount of like droppings that come from them over a week period and just like general general things like that, it'd be like, oh, my God,   I me personally, I wouldn't be able to   justify it. But you know, if someone else is there or is forcing me to to do it and I look, I love it. Like the her her place is is pretty and it's got a nice vibe to it. And it's it's one of those ones where I could never justify it myself, but   I kind of need someone to help me justify it. Because otherwise, I'll end up in one of those, you know, how you've seen those memes where it's like, how can men live like this? And it is just like a mattress on the floor   with a TV on a on a on a box.  

One plate, one bowl, one spoon.   You know that. No. Life. And I'm like,  

[00:23:57] Juan Granados:

yeah, I could do that. It's fine. We could do all this. Yeah. Well, we've we've, I mean, we've done this before. Me and Karen, when we used to live together, we've lived a very, very, very, very, very, very frugal furniture life. Spot and life. Like we, like, we had a, we didn't have a couch for a really long time. We didn't have anything downstairs. We didn't even use downstairs. Just like nuts. We had a table and 2 chairs. That was it. Yeah. It was like TV. There was nothing. So, yep. I mean, similarly,   my partner, she does that exactly. Or me, you know, we have a you haven't seen this, but we have a table.  

So it's sort of side table that I would have just been like, what? Like, again, what do you need them for? Exactly. Let's go. Okay. I love that, man. All right. No  

[00:24:38] Kyrin Down:

no boat shapes, sand pits for me. No boat shapes, sand pits, folks.   We'll see some boostograms, Karen. Tell the folks why boostograms are important for us. For sure. So for those who are unaware tuning into the mere mortals for the first time, perhaps a boostogram is a   is where   we call out people who are helping to support the show. So we don't run advertising on here, so you're never gonna get any interruptive things on there. We don't have any sponsors or anything like that because we want to keep the show as free and open as possible, give you our all of our thoughts. And honestly,   I think the show format works better without these things. No one wants to admit it, but the ads and sponsorships are they don't make for a better show. It's not like your show is better when you have those in. So we actually like to just get support directly from our audience. This is how we pay for all of the   various things. My flight tickets come in,   the pay for the   our hosting, which we've actually gotten down to pretty cheap at the moment. It's pretty   it's not the cheapest we've ever had just because general inflation   and places like Adobe   jacking up their prices. But,   you know, it pays for those things. It helps us to continue. And it's also giving us some messages which is attached with this support. So people who are really enjoying this, they do this directly within their podcasting apps in places like Fountain   in Curacaster   and True Fans in Podcast Guru. And we like to call out the people who have helped to support. If you go to Mimir Models podcast.com/support,   you can actually   see all of those things there, how you can do it and even a list and, you can actually get a shot as well if you, if you reach a certain level. So one who's who's helped to support us this week.  



[00:26:21] Juan Granados:

Thank you very much. So we have let's go from the top broad   broad reach music.   Mhmm. Hello, Karen. 1. Thank you for following us at True Fans. We We can boost you there. So waiting on an Albie tech support,   Ari, wallet malfunction. We, the band, also with Snowy, released 11 audio and companion videos on True fans hoping the videos will be a milestone for us. However, it remains to be seen. Once again, thank you for following. Cheers, the Oslo crew. And that's a 1,000 sets and using fountain. Yeah. So this is actually something, I actually tuned into the their music and listened to, I think, all to all 11 of them. I'm just on on true fans. And  

[00:26:58] Kyrin Down:

there's one of those ones where it's like, I really wanna support them. I just didn't like the singer, man. Like, the music was good. I like the music. It was like acoustic instrumental, but the just the singer's voice just didn't didn't didn't vibe with me. So,  

[00:27:11] Juan Granados:

but no, it's it's Well, I was gonna say, what would you compare the,  

[00:27:15] Kyrin Down:

the singer's voice to? I I wouldn't even know how to know how to. It's just,   you know, it and like I think the   you can kind of expect this from some V for V music. You know, it's it's not that highest quality. You can hear a little bit of echo in the background. You can because I was wearing headphones and actually   properly listening into to the music.   So you can hear, like, just all of the things and, you know, for whatever reason, I I I didn't like the the   the the singer. But what's really cool and what I really enjoy that they they reached out was,   I've been doing this on true fans and I actually did this on fountain once because   I want to help these podcast apps out.  

You know, if you've tuned into the mere mortals I've had on   a bunch of the developers before and   helping them out by using them by playing around with them by giving being able to give recommendations to our listeners as well and say like, you know, if you go on to these places,   you'll get better experiences in certain ways. You will be able to see the chapter art. I'll put it in a meme of the of the Spartan lifestyle meme in the chapter out there. And,   you know, I'll I'll I'll put in other photos and other things like that. And   I've been doing this with true fans and just adding basically new people who are joining the surface just so, like, you know, if you join something for the first time and you're like, we'll see see what happens. And then maybe 2 or 3 days later, you go back and, like, nothing's happened. It's it's kinda like,   oh, no one uses this app. Whereas, you know, if they see someone followed them, that's that's kind of like a nice little, oh, someone followed me. That's cool. Who is this person?  

So so I've been doing that a lot and I actually recommend that. I would recommend that to other podcasters if you, you know, I've, I've probably got one of the bigger accounts on Fountain. So when I share something or post. Yeah, you do. You do. It's likely to have bigger reach.   I wouldn't say it was guaranteed. It's guaranteed, but there certainly was a time period where   if I posted something on there,   I think it would reach a whole lot of people   in and like   what maybe in like would you say an undeserving   way in the sense that   I haven't I haven't actually built up   1,000 followers because they really want to follow me it's because I was one of the only people following them so they're like oh, I'll click follow back you know that's that sort of thing I'll follow it back  

[00:29:32] Juan Granados:

Yeah. No, I don't think it'd be undeserved. I think it's that's because I just I put in the time and effort, you know. Yeah. The the Yeah. Exactly. Just that's what happened when you're the  

[00:29:40] Kyrin Down:

Yeah, exactly. A reward for being Ally. Yeah. So I've been doing that on True Fans as well. So, yeah. Thanks. I mean, obviously, thanks for them to the supporting out and and   that's a cool way for them to get some airtime for people to tune in as well.  

[00:29:55] Juan Granados:

Yeah.   The other ones, we had a couple of just ones from ourselves coming in just from true fans. Yeah. I was streaming in.   Yeah. And then we've got one from Comic Comic.   I need some more undies now. He doesn't 222. That's usually found. I'm pretty sure he said mere undies now, didn't he?  

[00:30:13] Kyrin Down:

I need I need some Honestly, yes. Some mere undies. Sorry. Some mere undies. Yeah. So that's the the mere mortals undies. So what what I was thinking of doing is like, you know, if I get to the States and I meet him, I'd just give him like a pair of my dirty old ones.   Maybe maybe, like, sign him with a pen or something. You know? Damn, Karl. I don't know if you're gonna want those. Authentic stains and all.  

[00:30:37] Juan Granados:

Damn. Well, I'm just kidding.   Yeah. You sure you want to be like, yeah.   Yeah. No. Well, you gotta get the OG pair. It's gonna be the it's like a trial run. But If he likes to them, then people would definitely like some clean on these. But you know what would be funny, man? If if, like, 10 people boosted in and said, I want undies. I think we'd have to do it, man. I think we'd have to have to create. Is this like a case, you know, where there's like the I can't remember who it was. Maybe Aldelphina or something where they packaged up their bath order.   Oh, yeah. Maybe Yeah, maybe it can be this could be the mere mortals equivalent. We'll send you all about underway as it's   finally put the bed  

[00:31:15] Kyrin Down:

in stuff. Yeah, when it gets too holy.  

[00:31:19] Juan Granados:

No,   we're probably gonna do that. But yes, Cole, thank you very much for that. And prize twos, 220.   That's it. Much appreciated. Thank you, Cole. And they Yep. Yeah. So in any case, yeah, that support does help us out, folks.   And as Karen correctly pointed out,   last week,   Boostergrams is a way for you to send through some satoshis, and you can't put a comment attached to it. Yeah. Yeah. There's obviously ways that you can stream through if you're listening to the podcast on those good podcast apps out there. And that also comes through when we summarize and then use it up. So we talk about the podcast. Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Just a whole lot of appreciation to everyone who, helps helps to make this podcast run. Keep it going. And, yeah, very, very grateful even for the ones who do it anonymously and or who, you know, it's only like to stream in. We we do see it and we do appreciate it.   Yeah, absolutely.  

Okay. I think you got to tell me about the,  

[00:32:15] Kyrin Down:

being uncomfortable.  

[00:32:16] Juan Granados:

Yeah. The side of me away from being uncomfortable. Yeah. So,  

[00:32:21] Kyrin Down:

I was I was at the   just where we normally train with with Lucas.   And,   I've mentioned this before. I was going to take a video at some point. I probably should have done it the other day where this bar is right next to the the kind of like calisthenics park slash,   you know, old people's park where they've got the like wheels and rotating things and, you know, you can put your legs back and forth, all that sort of shit.   And,   it was   their Labor Day here. Do you have the club of your daughters? Something like that. So, but they don't they don't, you know, Cinco de Mayo. Normally,   people celebrate this on, on today or today in Brisbane,   but they actually had it on the 1st May instead. And so that was a Wednesday. So we were just training there and then there was just like a lot of people there drinking on on this Wednesday.  

And man, there was some cute girls there as well. Like really cute girls.   And we're, we're just hanging out. We're doing our theme, but, you know, like we're shirtless, We're doing handstands. You get some attention from people looking in and things like that. And, I was totally fine just on my own. But then Lucas left and,   another friend, Crespo, who, we've been all hanging out together and and   getting some PBs. We'll talk about that shortly.   And   when they left, that was when I started to get, like, just really self conscious. I was like,   oh, like, when I was there with people, it kind of made sense in a way. And then it felt like, oh, I'm even though I'm just training, I'm doing my normal thing.  

Exactly how I was doing it before they left.   When they left,   I started to be like,   like, this this just starting to feel weird. Like, I don't I don't actually enjoy being here. I don't actually like having people looking at me or   even if they weren't looking at me, the thought that they were looking at and and sometimes they do.  

[00:34:13] Juan Granados:

Right. But would this be the equivalent thing that would also happen if you're in Australia?  

[00:34:19] Kyrin Down:

Kind of. Yes. And so this is what I was gonna gonna get to.   As I was walking home,   I was kind of reflecting on on my discomfort then. And I was I was I was trying to I was trying to pinpoint exactly what it was because I've had this feeling before. I've talked about this a lot of times. It used to be a lot worse than it used to be all the time. I would get this in all situations. I would feel it when I was on the bus while I was traveling to university.   I'd feel it while I was walking around university. If I was in Queen Street Mall, it would be even worse. There was something about   crowds of people,   lots of people   being somewhere and me being on my own.  

And then I thought, you know, wait, is it actually just me being on my own? Because I remember actually feeling like   this   when I had a girlfriend, for example, and I'd I'd be in, like, a bar.   And I I would still have this kind of same sort of feeling of, like, this this discomfort of just, like, oh, like, are these people looking at me? What way?   Like and and it it didn't have to have any real world   verification either. I didn't actually have to   glance and see other people making eye contact with me or anything like this.   It was just this this feeling and   hearkening back to last week when or the week before when   Peter and, was was talking about how his his general, like, strategy or if he's like,   you know, he's single   and he's, you know, looking to mingle. He'll make eye contact with the girl and, you know, maybe smile at her and and things like this.  

And I was just, you know, I tried doing that, man, and it just makes me uncomfortable, man.   And so I was I was reflecting on all of this and I'm like, okay, you know, what could I do about this? I could I could go out to bars. I mentioned this recently, like, oh, I I might go out to a bar at some time   and,   and, you know, see the light life. And then it's like, oh, okay. Well, I'd have to go out to it at 10 PM.   And   I just, you know, it's one of those ones where it's   it is a fear or   fear is a strong word. It is discomfort. It's a lot of discomfort.   I'm pretty sure I could kind of conquer it in some sort of way. And whether it be psychologically,   whether it just be doing enough reps,   doing the reps of going to bars   and and drinking and, you know, trying to have fun.  

If   that does not describe me, I don't know   what does like I have to do the reps to have fun.   But but, you know, it's I was just reflecting on all of this and I'm like, but you don't need to, Kyren.   Yesterday,   when I went out to the the center and I was walking around and so, you know, just imagine the equivalent of walking around the center of your city, the main plaza, the main square, it's got shops there. There's lots of people, there's mix of workers,   there's mix of, you know, sales staff, there's mix of shoppers, all of this sort of stuff.   And,   as I was walking along there,   2 pretty girls were coming along and I played played my part to the perfection of the lost Gringo. And I'm like, oh, excuse me, you know,   what's there to do in here? Is there, like, I'm new to the city. Is there anything around here? Is there like a cathedral?  

And man, they fucking gobbled it up. You should have seen the reaction of these 2 girls. They loved it. And they're like, oh my god. You know, where are you from?   Blah, blah, blah. And and, you know, how long have you been here? You know, they're just all over it, all over   it. And I ended up, you know, grabbing the numbers. We talked for, you know, 15, 20 minutes. I was talking about how, like, you know, making jokes. I'm the lost gringo. Please don't take advantage of me. Things like this. And   and,   you know, I did the equivalent of of like what I would maybe want to be doing at a bar, which is getting a girl's number in the chance of like, you know, organizing a date,   meeting with her in the future and something like that.  

And I just went,   I don't need to do this. Like, I do not need to go through these uncomfortable periods. And   you know what? I probably   it might as much as I hate   not doing reps,   it probably would have been better to just call it quits when Lucas and Crespo called it quits and just have gone home and that probably would have been better overall.   So   this is my strong argument here   for why for why it's it's not worth doing some uncomfortable things. 1, respond. I know. I know. Because I knew when I wrote that title, I was like, I know why it's not gonna like this.  

[00:38:54] Juan Granados:

Yeah, no, I   look, I won't be   I'm not I don't think I've ever been 100 percent where it's,   you should always do uncomfortable. I think that there's some uncomfortable things that you don't really   need to   do. I'm sure we could think of some of you. But even the example you give there for me, I'm like, No,   I   I think that fundamentally,   there would be some   some benefit hidden amongst the negative feeling of of continuing that   in   it. I don't kind of remember what it was what the actual   name of the thing in the in the brain was, but it's something that I've only just started to hear kind of recently. And   the way I would summarize it is   when you when you do something   that you don't want to do, in essence,   that you truly don't want to do, it does help build up that resiliency   or that aspect in your brain that then enables you to go and do more things that   maybe at the forefront or at the face of it you don't want to do and to pursue things.  

I think it's core in the   other aspects like resiliency   in being anti fragile in all of that.   But it has to have a purpose. I guess that's that's ultimately where I get to it with the outcome, right? Because if you   if you are doing things that are unnecessarily   difficult,   or unnecessarily putting you into a   into a position that you feel uncomfortable and you don't want to do.   But and then there's no value that   really affects your life. While I could make   a case for why it might be beneficial.   It's also unnecessary.   Yeah, in your in your aspect of the story, I'd still say like, ah, but Karen,   it is necessary because you are going to be utilizing those tools and those connections yet If you   were all of a sudden,   married with kids, that'd be like, cool, unnecessary, you know, unnecessary to that degree, like who absolutely gives a crap in that relation to like relationships, but then I go, you know, aren't you going to be in another position where you're going to be on your own and you need to connect with somebody or do something that might seem   unwise at the time to do it mentally, but you want to do it.  

I don't know. I don't know that. Here's here's my other extrapolation. I don't know if it maps   exactly with what you're saying here. But I was thinking,   let's just imagine my daughter when she's 5 or 6 years old, right?   When kids really learn from what the parents doing, right? They just,   they reenact, they look at what you're doing. And then they'll they'll go on repeat, right? They go and rhyme what you're doing. And I often think, you know, if I all of a sudden became this   little bit sheltered, or I don't like, you know, I showcase some   uncomfortableness and being out in public,   in a very,   maybe I like I already do. But if I let that be the thing that okay, you know what, I'm gonna pack up and I'm gonna go like, I'm not gonna do this.  

And that is then the lesson that is being picked up. It's like, oh, yeah, no, no, no, when that happens, you got to kind of be you got to be uncomfortable and   move away from it. I kind of go in a silly way I go, you know, I still want to be   able to let's just say,   dance on the street,   even though it seems silly, and it's probably really uncomfortable. And maybe there's no benefit. But if the benefit for at least that example to a child, it's   hey, you don't have to let something like your own mental   aspect of not wanting to do something stop you do it within reason, within reason, like, yeah, we're not being stupid and silly here.   So I would say,   no, not everything that's, you know, that   you shouldn't be doing absolutely everything. There's obvious limitations to it. But in that regard to your story, I'd say, Nah, you should have you should hang on to that little feeling and be like, you know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna sit on this here for a little bit longer. Yeah. So the caveat to this is,  

[00:42:53] Kyrin Down:

and I think just as you're talking, help me nail it down a bit. It really is this aspect of the being the center of attention.   Those times when I felt uncomfortable   when I was out with a girlfriend, for example,   was not when we're at a restaurant.   It would be when we're in a club and we're in like sitting in the VIP section or something like that.   It was not when I'm on my own. And I was at,   you know, like Joey's wedding, for example, or where I didn't have a significant partner. You know, obviously I was with you and Joey   and friends and   family, you know, friends of family, known people, things like that.  

I didn't I didn't feel it feel it, I think, at all during that entire trip. So it's it's this aspect and that's because, you know, obviously the center of tension is definitely not on me. It's on the bride and groom.   So I think it's this aspect of   of where and and then the adding on top of that would be   even though I'm not the center of attention,   if I'm just like a random guy in a in a bar or a club,   it feels like if I'm going up to a girl to talk or something like that,   for me, it feels like, oh, shit, like this guy is going to make a move. Like, let's, let's watch and see, see him either succeed or fail. What's going to happen? Yeah, exactly. And, and I would know this because I also like to people watch. And so if I see someone   like doing an approach or going to do something, something interesting   Or there was these this couple fighting,   just the other day, middle of the day,   drinking from straight from the whiskey bottle and the whiskey bottle was pretty much empty.  

And she she kept on saying like, Fala Gora, which means like, talk now speak now.   And she just kept yelling it at this dude   in the middle of, like, the daytime. It was it was, it was rather amusing to watch. And   that that those sorts of things is where it's like, okay,   fast forward 20 years, I've got got wife, got got kids who I wanna be setting a good impression for.   These ends, it's like a an award ceremony   or, you know,   a situation where it's like we're at the beach and we're filming something cool. I don't know.   I that's one of those situations where it's like, I wouldn't want to   be showing my discomfort   leaving an event early because I'm uncomfortable   or,   you know,   even though I feel like I'm I'm still the same person,   everyone tells me like   they can read my face so easily if I'm unhappy, if I'm pensive, if I'm thinking about something, if I'm uncomfortable,   even though I feel like I'm still acting the same, like it just shows up in in everything.  

And that's not the sort of thing I would want to, you know, pass on to a 1 year old child or a 5 year old child or whatever. So that's that's kind of like where I was thinking like, you know, though, in those situations,   especially if it's,   you know, I I don't want to   make other people unhappy because I'm   uncomfortable, which has happened before. There's been situations   where I've been at events or parties or something, and we've left early because,   you know, I was like,   I I don't really wanna be here. And it was because of this feeling, not because it was late or because   insert whatever   other reason.  



[00:46:17] Juan Granados:

But I mean, would you say then   in saying all that it's not is it something you want to change or it's something that like, yeah, okay, I see that. And that's that's okay. That's right. Yeah. That's that's more like future problem, which if if I realize it's,  

[00:46:34] Kyrin Down:

you know, if it's if I realize it's a problem   in 5 years down the track, like, it's the only thing that's affecting me now is,   like I said, maybe I wouldn't have got as many reps in as as I wanted to. I wouldn't have finished off the rest of my workout, which to be honest, it was kind of crap anyway.   The   Yeah. I was right at the end and I was I was absolutely like it wasn't it wasn't a whole lot of, like, quality repetitions going on. Right. Okay.  

[00:47:03] Juan Granados:

Cause actually that's a that's a good call. I just quickly, because if you had said that you had like a lot like a lot of your workout and you'd kind of cut it, if like you were prepared to do that, I'd be like, damn. Okay. That's a pretty big thing. But if if you were like pretty spent and you'd gone through it, then okay. I could see that happening. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:47:19] Kyrin Down:

It's yeah. I'm I'm becoming more,   a little bit more   casual, not casual, but   accepting of, okay, you know,   if I don't do this work right now,   can I catch it up? Is it actually gonna be that big of a problem? And,   I guess this transitions really nicely onto onto the fitness stuff. So   I've got a big news. I've finally gotten the stopper.  

[00:47:48] Juan Granados:

Let's go. Let's go. Ola. Damn. Okay. When did that come about?  

[00:47:52] Kyrin Down:

That came about yesterday, my friend. It was about a year and a half worth of effort, I would say. You know, it it's one of those ones where it's like you say it's a year and a half worth   of effort.   I've been training things   adjacent to this so that I could get this for a year and a half. Has it been my one   core sole focus? No.   It's been 30 to 40 percent of everything that I've been doing though. So,   you know, it's   6 months of very intense effort. Let's put it that way.   And yeah, man, it was just it was it's so strange because it's like, you know, I kind of promised myself when I came to Brazil, like, I'm gonna get this whilst I'm in Brazil.   And then, you know, I had to book the flights home rapidly.  

And I wasn't even thinking about it, but yesterday was the last day I was training the stroller,   whilst I was still here.   And,   you know, it was just a nice day. Lucas and I were chilling out. We're just goofing around.   It was one of those ones where I'm like, you know, I'm going to get out as GoPro just in case. And the first rep felt really good. And then we started, like, you know, hyping each other up or he was hyping me up and he's like, you're going to get it on the 4th. I got it on the second and it was shit. It was crappy. Like it, it didn't look good.   I ended up getting 2 more and   the last one actually was relatively clean. You know, I got up   straddle legs, legs were only shaking a little bit,   Did the rep down as well. So   yeah, just   a nice big win for me for something that I stuck at, which is strength. Like you need a lot of shoulder strength for that. And   I've   obviously gotten that strength now. So big win for me. Really, really happy.  



[00:49:34] Juan Granados:

Damn. That's crazy. Okay. Because I I remember I mean, I've seen you practice the ultra press even, like, years ago.   Like I might have positioning and Yeah. Holds and stuff like that. Yeah.  

[00:49:44] Kyrin Down:

It's one of those ones where it's like   you work on other things, but it helps this as well. So   in terms of drills wise, you know, it's   really focusing on this one thing. It's been a year and a half, but you know,   it's it's like,   looks in the chat is like, storter bro. I saw that thing.   And the   I remember watching   Daniel Vadnal,   fitness FAQ. He was probably one of the first calisthenic YouTubers I ever, ever watched.   And   I remember,   you know, as he was releasing new videos,   his videos were, you know, I got my first stolda or like, I'm training for the stalled.   And I remember seeing that and being like, that's impossible. I'll never be able to do that. And yeah. One of those things where it's like, wow, that is so   He's is older than us. I think he's mid forties.  

He's had, you know, some surgery recently. He used to be really fit doing like think he's done a couple of Ironmans,   used to do triathlons   and   and marathons just just for fun from what I can gather.   And he's learning handstands and he and he got his,   7 seconds the other day. And it was just kind of like watching him   getting   the this   this kind of like monumental thing where it's like he actually yelled while he was up there. He's like, oh, and,   you know, watching that is just like, damn, like, that's yes, that's awesome. Because, you know, he's   he's where I was so long ago and   you kind of forget about that. And, you know, I'm also   kind of on the cusp   of starting to like try and throwing my arm out and just seeing if I can get some one arms   for for, like, actual one arm hold times.  

And   yeah. It's it's like I don't know. Looking back at the past, reflecting, just being like, damn, that's, that's so cool. Having more goals,   being even more like ambitious and being like, oh, I want the one arm I want, I want, you know, like really clean muscle ups. I, you know, it's it's all of these things where it's just   it's good to reflect sometimes and be like, damn,   come come a long way.  

[00:52:01] Juan Granados:

Okay. Well, so it sounds like your fitness has been gone strong, at least in finishing up at the moment in Brazil, which has been good. Very, it's been really good.   Mine's been kind of the opposite. So here's a couple of things. So   one,   I've made the call actually, basically from today onwards. So I was doing my Olympic training phase.   And I'm going to cut that short.   Except I think I've gone.   Technically, it's been 9 weeks.   I'd say that I've done 8 week to 1 week was completely off just sickness.   And   then, man, I think it just with other things that I've been doing, like while the training, it's just been too much.   So   it to give people some guidance of what that that looks like, you know, when you do   squats, or you do some leg leg workout and you'd have DOMS for 3 days or something like that. So   it's not necessarily   the DOMS that I'm getting, but it is the fatigue and say the legs. And with the type of training I was trying to do,   I'm basically hitting legs   every day.  

And it's too too much to the point of it's not doms, it's   literal fatigue,   which I could see becoming   injury   in flow in the long term. Yeah.   So   earlier in the week,   I was   done whatever work that I was doing. And it actually got to the point that   my legs felt weak, but my my like right knee was starting to give way and not in like a I this is all but like it's just lost all of its strength in it. I'm like, oh, this is not good. The other thing that   I found as well was   in   over the weeks that have gone by, you know, being specifically focusing on Olympic lifting, but doing a little bit of everything else on the side anyways.   And there was just coincidentally,   there was like, trying to max out on Olympic type lifting as part of the other program that I've been following. I was like, okay, I'll give it a go. Well, I've been doing this, you know, I've been improving and whatnot.  

How much more of an improvement do you think I hit on my Max's?   If you could say you're saying kilos or percentages.   Well, dude, almost   on the on one of them, it's like slightly declined. And then the other one, it's like, very, very, very, very slightly better. But after 8 weeks of doing it, I was like, Damn, that's ridiculous.   Interestingly enough, what has happened is I kind of reflected back on it here, I've gotten much better at performing   higher   weights,   more consistently,   maybe for higher reps. So direct numbers, let's just say it would snatch.   Before,   if my max was hitting 19 95 kilos,   I was able to do   maybe a rep at 80 and I could rep at 90. But I wasn't able to like rep 80 for much more than that. Like that was it.  

Now, I guess more, you know, the reps I can do much more at 80 I can do like 10 or 12 not in a row but like pause, reset, go again, pause, reset, go again, and it doesn't feel too like destroying. So that is I've gotten better at that   near 80% maximal range.   But up at the 100% no, it was like almost been no progress. I think it's because of that continuous fatigue. So, yep, I'm just pulling that back and I'm going to begin the   what I'm calling the calisthenics   slash more running kind of small face, starting straight away. So I was like, Cool. I'm excited for that. That's gonna be good. But then, and here's   the little inconsequential thing. So my training over the week as well has been terrible.  

Okay, partly, partly, I'd say it's the fatigue in the legs.   Definitely, partly, it's to do with terrible sleep, because once again, sleep has been out of the window. But what's been the biggest thing, Karen? What's been that biggest thing that has caused me   mayhem and destruction and terrible, terrible training sessions?  

[00:55:50] Kyrin Down:

Right? Guess it? It has been You've I was gonna guess I was gonna guess you've, like, developed an allergy or something to to milk or yeah. You've become lactose intolerance. I don't  

[00:56:01] Juan Granados:

know.   No. No. It has been.   On Tuesday,   I stepped outside into my backyard and And I stepped on a little rock.   And this little rock, I stepped on it at just a walking pace, right? And I was carrying   stepped on it. I was like, I was like,   Oh, man, that really hurt. Threw away a little rock thinking nothing of it.   My foot has been in constant pain since that and it didn't   perforate my skin or anything. But it must have done something to the muscle fascia at the bottom of your foot. Was this the dodgy?   Now   from 2 weeks ago, this is the other foot. No, this is the other foot, right? Yeah.   Exactly sounds like dude, this this rock as all of a sudden and even now so if I squeeze my left foot   down to it, like contract your,   your toes either, like since massive shooting pain through my leg. I was like, Damn, what have I done? So yesterday, yesterday, I was supposed to go for it was morning.  

Once again, I slept in like my alarm didn't go off. So I'd slept in I had minimal time. I didn't get to go to the run club that we usually go   to. I was like, Oh, do I run or do I go for a gym session?   I could kind of do either. I really didn't want to gym. Like, I was just so fatigued and tired. I was like, okay, look, I'll get out there. I'll do a bit of run. Just something I've got to go over that way anyways to go and get the damn sandpit. And I ended up doing about the 2 kilometres dude and I was just spent both my legs were just fatigue. My feet were so sore. And I didn't even train the day before. So I was like, Okay, now that's it. And   just put a stop to all this   extra volume, I guess I'm doing and thankfully the foot is getting better. That man, it's a little thing to just mess you up. So I was like, goddamn it. Goddamn  

[00:57:51] Kyrin Down:

rock. Yeah, man. That's that's life. Hey. That is how it works. That is the yeah.   Yeah. I suppose just learning how to adapt to these things as well. Watching Lucas train has been interesting because he   he takes things a bit more casually than I do. You know, I   in the sense   that I'm pretty   he says he has a plan for each day, but   I think he listens to his body. He's one of those like, listen to your body people   with other handstand people I've been training with. And honestly, most circus people   who I've kind of met, they're all more into the   you know, I, I felt this thing I thought of this thing. I focused on my leg when I was in that rep. And they can really   distinguish between one rep and the other.  

And I'm just   like, you know, like dumb monkey.  

[00:58:43] Juan Granados:

Yeah.   Oh, man, do handstand.  

[00:58:46] Kyrin Down:

Man, put leg here. That's that's how I feel. I'm I'm I'm a 100%, you know, just do the rep sort of guy. And   the   yeah, the watching him trains be interesting because he yeah. He'll be like, yeah. You know, today I think I'll do this. I'm feeling something in my shoulder, so I'm I'm gonna, like, you know, do less volume or I'm gonna do this or gonna do that. Whereas, you know,   me, classic me is just I've got my my book. I've got my plan. That's what I'm doing. I've got my plan. These are the reps. You know, the reps are usually,   that they're they're kind of ambiguous in the sense of,   I'd like to get this much. I'd like to improve over the last week or something like that. But it's it's I'm not usually aiming for something. I'm usually just like,   you have to do all of this today, go do it. And   some days would be really good. Some days would be kind of crap. Some days would be really, really good like the other day, and then some days would be really, really crap.  

But mostly they hover around like,   yeah, it was okay. You know, I went and did the reps. That's what I feel like most of the days when I come out.   So, yeah, I don't know. It's, it's, it's been interesting watching him and go on, you know, maybe,   maybe this I don't think it will work for me, but maybe I, I've always had this sort of, yeah, I could kind of put in a play day or it's just like a day where this would be nice if I get it done. And,   yeah, knowing myself, it doesn't really work like that. I I never am able to   chill out. It's like if I have to have a rest day, it's a planned rest day, you know?  

It's not like, oh, I   feel out on the day. I'll I'll feel this or not. Nah, it's   so it needs everything needs to be. Feeling. Yeah.  

[01:00:30] Juan Granados:

I would say   I do enjoy the   loose goose style training   for sometimes.   They're   not often   because I think that there's a large part to driving me to do the thing when it's really nicely planned out.   However,   there are certain I could probably say a handful of times when maybe just going in and saying I'm gonna do an arm day, I'm gonna do is do a back day, I'm gonna do I'm gonna gonna go for a run and not sure how long I'm going to run this. There's some of those that are kind of enjoyable. But I would say at least for me, I've got to be almost in a predetermined like good mood for it.   If I go in with a   mindset where I'm just I'm tired, I've got other things to do, and I don't have a plan for it. That's when it's really easy. I actually remember a it was years ago,   I went into a gym to do an arm workout.  

And for I've only ever enjoyed arm doing an arm workout maybe way back at the beginning of training. And honestly, after that, arm training become like a chore. I had actually didn't enjoy doing a lot of arm training. So this particular day, I went in to do an arm training session without any plan,   because I had something else that I had to do or something like that. And I remember doing like,   2 sets   of a particular movement and actually checking my watch beam, like, okay. How long have I been here? And it was, like, 3 and a half minutes. And I was like,   damn, I can't I can't leave until like probably like a good 40 minutes. But it was one of those workouts where I was checking the minutes being like, oh, am I done yet? Am I done yet? And it did just, you know, it doesn't feel fun. But I think if at that moment, I'd have like, okay, here's the plan, these things, do this and do that. At least it's almost a,   you know, I don't have to think about it. The   the the motivation to do something can be replaced with a discipline of following a plan. Yeah. For sure. When I first came here, the 1st 3 or 4 days,  

[01:02:24] Kyrin Down:

I, you know, chucked everything out the window. I was just like, you know, if I get the chance to train at all, I'll do some. It's in one of the vlogs that that Lucas   created and I was just literally just doing what he was doing. So we went to a,   a movement gym. There was a guy there who was doing planche. So we did some planche and, you know, handsets. It was like if I looked at it, I would spit, I would go,   you know, that doesn't match this exercise.   I was doing the easier things first and then the harder things later, completely opposite to what I should be, you know, normally doing.   You know, I followed this workout by that workout. That makes no sense. You know, everything about it was wrong, but   it was it was worth doing just because, you know, I just arrived in your country. And, you know, I don't I don't want to be   like I said,   one of my goals this year   was to just not   be overly   critical, overly   analytical,   overly routined whilst I'm in another country, another place. So for example,   I did a workout this morning from   9 until   11:30   with, you know, 45 minutes of that being a workout, or just a warm up.  

And   I skipped, you know, like half of the half the workout. I just I just went like, oh, we don't have time. The reason we're doing it so early in the morning because we're getting feijoada again. So, you know, meeting some of Lucas' friends,   hanging out with them   and just everything   about this. Well, not everything, but, you know, skipping a whole bunch, doing it in the morning,   you know, not not focusing   completely on it because his friends were there. So I was talking with people as well. But, you know, this this was one of the times where I was like, okay, this can be my one day a week where   if if I don't get it, it's okay. So it is possible to do, but it's   it's hard, man. It's hard. I'm I'm fighting the demons of   get every rep in, do it, you know, prepare   exactly how you want to prepare, do it at the time which makes best for you and things like this. It's like, nope,   it's come down. Well, there's there's other important things in life and other than just training.  

But you know, the I know there's people listening. I know there's people listening to us being like, what the hell? Like, what how is this a challenge for you guys? If they didn't if they didn't anticipate this from my earlier section saying how I need to do the reps of of going out to a bar to have fun. I I've, like, I I don't know how I could prepare you more for for for how I operate and for how one operates as well. So  

[01:05:03] Juan Granados:

yeah. Yeah. This shouldn't be an unknown for me immortalized out there. I don't think so. I don't think so.   Oh, jeez. Alright, Juan. You got anything else, you wanna call out? Anything interesting? No. Look. I think the well, obviously, just as a call out for folks listening to this point is that,   not sure what time we will do the next following podcast whether we do it. I'm okay for Wednesday.   You're okay for Wednesday? Yeah. Okay. Well, so we'll probably get back to that that schedule of Wednesday.   That'll be that'll be cool. So be be aware of that. We'll obviously keep you in tune with what's going on.  

One quick thing is, you would have seen in   just the content that's being produced.   At the moment, I'm trying a few different things. I don't know if you've seen it.   You remember the the quotes and stuff like that? Yeah.   I started to do some of those quotes back again just to see again, playing around with things,   leveraging   our good old friend of chat GPT to just help summarize a lot of the content that's been created as well.   Like that's just in terms of creating that content and   putting it out a little bit quicker. So that's been a bit fun.   Yeah, so just trying out different things just to see what works. What gets caught? What doesn't? I think at this point, it's a little bit of volume that we can provide again, for people who are listening,   or watching the stuff that we put out. I'd be keen to hear from folks, is it helpful? Does it help?  

Is it   to help you connect? I know you've mentioned in the past current as well of   people have seen that have said, Hey, it's a helpful reminder that you guys kind of exist.   So does it doing that more by sharing it more? Is it just annoying? Again, I kind of want to get some feedback around that as well for folks at home. Definitely. Yeah. So value for value can do this many different ways through time, talent and treasure.  

[01:06:46] Kyrin Down:

Time is just coming and joining us live like Lucas has done, and he was giving us some extra info. You know, Crespo is 47. Juan, you're as strong as fuck, dude. You're a bombadong. And.   Bombadong.   Bombadong.   And and joining us live. So, you know, we, you know, join us in our discord for the ping that goes out. I also put it out on Twitter as well, and we're   semi consistent.   Let's put it that way with our time. You know, when we switch, we   we we usually stick with it for a little bit.   So joining us That's not too bad. Yeah. We're we're okay.   So joining us live is is really awesome. We love, having you join us and and in the chat. And,   you know, commenting, liking all of those sorts of things   do help out in some shape and form as well. We love if you got some talent, so if you got any particular topics you want to talk about, if there's any, you know, we didn't talk about books this week, but if there's any books you think that are worth talking about, you just read Arnold Schwarzenegger's   what's the title one? Be useful. Be useful.  

Are we useful? If we're not, tell us how we could be more useful.   Things like that. And then finally, the treasure,   as I mentioned, doing this through a podcasting app is the way that we really enjoy and ask that you do that. It takes a little bit of learning and time, but,   if you go on to Fountain or on to Truefence, I think those   2 of the easiest places you can do that. And, you know, sending us an amount, however much you want, however much value you got from this podcast is very much appreciated. There's also links down below for a PayPal if you wanted to send one of those in.   And I think that's it for this week.  



[01:08:27] Juan Granados:

Beautiful. Well, we're gonna leave it there again. Thank you very much for those who are tuning in.   It'll be a joy. I think next time we'll we'll probably do it in person. We'll do it at your place. Yep.   Yeah, because I'll have a little stuff set up in mind. And then that way we can swap out the things. I think for now, we're gonna leave it there. I'm gonna go celebrate my daughter's birthday. Beautiful. Happy to be to be on our home. To be on our home. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. For everyone at home, thank you for tuning in. We'll leave a day in the immortal lights 1 out. Kairan out.  

[01:08:58] Kyrin Down:

Good.