Jeff is back for his 2nd appearance after first appearing in Conversation #78.
In Conversation #92, Jeff and I discuss: Bitcoin, Monochrome, Exchanges, Regulations, License Plates and more cars!
Timeline:
(0:00) - Warm Up
(0:30) - Bitcoin Plates
(5:53) - The Signal
(11:23) - Trusting Information
(18:55) - Freedom
(25:04) - Monochrome Offerings
(40:00) - Exchanges
(48:20) - DeFi vs TradFi
(55:51) - Bitcoin Uptake
(1:02:29) - Digital Exchange?
(1:05:29) - GT4 Racing and Experiences
(1:14:08) - Supercar Owners
(1:27:56) - Celebrating 800,000 blocks
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