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Juan toured 'The World' and has come back to educate us.

The highlight of episode #459 of 'Musings' is the recounting of a unique experience aboard "The World," a private residential ship. Juan shares insights from a day spent with John Demartini, including the exclusive nature of the ship and the type of individuals who reside there. The conversation explores the concept of living on such a vessel, the networking opportunities it presents, and the lifestyle it offers to its residents. Maybe we can manifest an apartment there one day.

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[00:00:05] Kyrin Down:

We all care Mere mortals  

[00:00:09] Juan Granados:

Didn't even hear that. That come through at the beginning? No. Oh my goodness. Well, off we go. Memoir Life, welcome back to musings. Musings. We haven't done musings for a little while. You've got Juan here. Got Kyrin here on the other side. Immediately 11. 13th. 13th. 13th  

[00:00:26] Kyrin Down:

October, 2024.   Musings as opposed to meanderings that we've been doing for a little while, really is just a chance for us to have a convo around a specific topic. Correct. Generally. See another one. I mean, over the last couple of months, I think what we've been doing has been more along the lines of   chatting about what's been happening in your travels,   just randomness that's been happening.   We haven't been consistent in timing of a few things, and that's honestly probably come across as well when we see the Bruce of Grams and we'll talk about a little bit later. Although I was I was actually had a quick look and I was like, oh. Is that a good influx? I was like, I was gonna be a bit of a sad puppy and it wasn't. I was like, oh, there's a few there so that'll be cool and we'll start talking about that more. But no, musing's   either   deeper conversation, so light hearted, but deeper conversation about a particular topic.  

And I think what do you call it title today?   I'm on a boat, but I'm here to learn. I'm here to learn. I'm here to learn. So we'll  

[00:01:20] Juan Granados:

you'll understand what I guess. I'm coming into this pretty fresh as well. The only the only prompts Juan gave me for this one. I were   a story he told me last week, and also to look up the Demartini method.  

[00:01:33] Kyrin Down:

Now let's begin then. Did you look up the Demartini method? I had a very brief look. Okay. Okay. Not a fan. Not a fan. I'll  

[00:01:40] Juan Granados:

ask you. So just for those at home, I've noticed one following a bunch of like,   manifesting type podcasts and or not podcast channels, YouTube channels on our joint account.   On the YouTube? Yeah, there's 1 or 2 that that I've looked at on my pretty low subscriber counts.   They're talking about, you know, manifesting   your dreams, your desires, some other thing.  

[00:02:02] Kyrin Down:

Same thing with the other guys. Oh, I didn't quite look it up. Yeah, one of them one of them and I couldn't even tell you the name. One of them is a   it'll begin I guess as a story here. It's the school of mastership. There's another guy who's doing it, which is funny. It is one of those which I think  

[00:02:16] Juan Granados:

someone you  

[00:02:17] Kyrin Down:

Yeah, but no, but before we begin because it's gonna be an interesting point here. What what were your thoughts like the looking at it kind of directly at the martini? Yeah. Like I spent 30 seconds.  

[00:02:27] Juan Granados:

That's probably as much as you need. Yeah.   And   I saw it was just a guy   something probably about vibrations   almost turned me off immediately.   It it looked like self help look   I don't know maybe he's got a really compelling way of doing it it just looked like the standard self help sort of thing not I'm not into it personally so   I didn't didn't dive into it and self help on the more  

[00:02:54] Kyrin Down:

level. Yeah, exactly. So here we go. So the way and this is probably going to be largely just me talking and relaying the story of why I wasn't a button. I'll explain that in a moment. I think pepper asked the questions where you think it's probably relevant, right? And we'll go from there. So there's 2 there's 2 parts of it. 1. It was yes, we went on on a boat on a big boat. You go see this individual called John D. Martini. The   I could look it up and you can look it up. I was thinking like, I can look it up and I can read out some things. I'll give you the most the straight, the immortal answer to a few of these things. From what I can understand, if I was to look at it from a 30,000 foot view, is like a Tony Robbins   like another self help motivational individual   45 years in the psychology game obviously has a lot of   learnings and understandings in that particular area   Not   concrete how,   like, how much of a renowned individual he is in the mathematics and physics space, but you could tell that he also has a lot of knowledge in that space. Enough to you that only 2 things are either enough to be talking such   crazy shit that I'm like, I don't know what's going on. Yeah, sure. Or some realistic things. So put it in that context is a   it's a it's like it's like a Tony Robbins doesn't market himself that well. That's basically it. That's and this is coming from like some of the individuals that went to go see this guy. He just doesn't market himself very well. I think Deepak Chopra might fit into the consciousness.  



[00:04:18] Juan Granados:

You know, he's talking at   he's obviously a smart dude   and he's talking at a really high level. But then I think he mixes in a lot of a lot of transcendental   claims about consciousness, which can't be verified.  

[00:04:34] Kyrin Down:

Yep. So so weirdly enough,   he   doesn't   put a lot of those claims. So we got back and forth here, but he doesn't make a lot of those claims, but there's a lot of the way that he,   converses and might lead one down that path. So, so you met this guy, right? Correct. Correct. So, any insight. One was the opportunity to meet this guy and he was on a boat. Hence, I'm on a boat motherfucker, but it was   a learn. So it was so back up to the suit. Sorry, because that and then there's obviously the group that I went with. So I kind of I'll join them. And then I'll go into the boat because that's kind of like the more interesting experience. So  

[00:05:07] Juan Granados:

I've been part of a school of master   school of mastery program. So just before that, so  

[00:05:13] Kyrin Down:

so why why why did you bring up this guy? Like, is was there anything about him that you found intriguing or compelling? This gets even better. Okay. Alright, I'll wait. Ready 1st. Ready 1st. So I joined a school of mastery, which is a group of I believe so Lewis Mokka leads it. He did   financing   type gigs and businesses beforehand to teach people transitioned into honestly   not too dissimilar to what we do in a podcast format, but in a selling into subscription model. The way that they work is like on a weekly. Where Lewis Mokuba without the marketing. Yeah,   man probably, but the way that he, so this particular business, the way that he got some real success is basically he had a following. So that's one thing. He had like a lot of loyal people that followed him.  

He then created a platform where he uploaded a lot of interesting content and, as a community. A lot of the stuff that he teaches is finances,   personal finding your top values, couple of esoteric things, wealth management.   Honestly, I've gone through all of the course material, I've been in there for a couple of months. I go, honestly, man, it's easy that we we either already do some of these things or it's aligned to what we do. He gives a lot of Google spreadsheets, Google sheets for you to utilize and track down whatever And honestly,   it's   almost like for like for what we do. So, you know, we prioritize our goals on a monthly and annual basis.  

We have our,   financials and our daily checks.   Imagine exactly that, but just market it better. That's literally it. So I was like, I get it. It's cool. I get it. Pretty spreadsheets.   We,   they produce something on a weekly basis at 7 pm, Wednesday, Brisbane time, basically. And they just go live for an hour and they'll talk about a particular concept. So imagine the mere mortals but well presented and And well paid. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And well paid. Right? It charge $100 a month and it has about 400 people on on the program. Right? Plus many other things. So Not bad. That's how. Now they do   and I knew about it. They do random things maybe every 1 or 2 years in terms of gathering and stuff. I went, you know, it's an interesting community. It would be interesting to connect if at least just for that, I'll pay the money to be able to connect   and then this opportunity came up right now. I   maybe had heard of it once or twice before so some of the things in that school that they do or present and talk about, which is interesting,   is largely from this John Demartini guy. Like, obviously, broken down and sequenced in a different way, marketed in a different way, but it's the core concepts that come from that. So they kind of came out with a, hey, we're gonna go and do,   we've secured this guy to be able to go and have a chat with him,   on his boat   where he lives, and I'll get to what that boat means. But it was basically like, hey. We got an opportunity to go and have a chat with him over breakfast,   and,   we can learn from him for 3 hours, and then we can just catch up afterwards.  

And immediately, my thought was still I was like, I don't know I don't know anything about this guy. Like, this John did my teaming up. But I went, cool. Here's an opportunity to just sounds like a cool boat. I had a quick look at it. Cool boat. And it'll be with gathering of of people who should be pretty   interesting. Like, honestly, it was like, oh, it'd be interesting people. I'll do it. Fuck it. Let's do it. Mhmm. That's basically what made me say, you know, when you say, oh, dude, I know this John Demartini go beforehand. Nah. Honestly, I probably would have heard about him like once or twice. So someone had to apart from that, again, he's he's not a very good marketer. He's not a very good marketer. And   if you see his stuff that he posts on socials and some of the podcast stuff that he does as well, actually the podcast is better, but in the social media, you would just go like, what is this? This is just like positive affirmations,   which fine, there's some positive messages. I don't think it really super connects with actually what is really valuable that I guess he would do. But yes, that's what got me to a boat. Okay, all right.  

I'll tell you the cost. I'll tell you the cost probably because it's about 15 people. And each person has to pay 2,700   and something dollars for this opportunity of like 5 hours. So like this guy's shoes. Yep, basically. Yeah.  

[00:09:04] Juan Granados:

I wonder how much actually went to him. Probably not. All  

[00:09:08] Kyrin Down:

of it. All of it. Yep. All of it. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:09:22] Juan Granados:

Yeah.   No, it's, something went through my mind. You make money through a lot of things nowadays.   I met and not even nowadays.   I met a guy in 20.   What year was it? It was I think it was 2017   and, it was at like a,   I was actually in   the background.   So if you go to the,   what were the   Olympics   recently? Where were they? The Paris? What was the ones before that? That was London. London. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:09:58] Kyrin Down:

Rio was 2016,   2020.  

[00:10:01] Juan Granados:

Tokyo. Tokyo Olympics.   So it was   a video thing for the Tokyo   Paralympics   and they were filming this in. Yeah, very early 2017. And   I remember   I went there and basically I was going to be part of the crowd, so I was going to be like cheering in the background for a swimming, and it was at the Chandler Swimming Center and,   there was this guy I met there. So first of all, if you go back to some Paralympics videos, you might see a bald headed action. No, I was a bald and I see a strapping young lad with a full   head of hair in the crowd there. But I met this guy,   big beard, like big stocky bloke. I'm like, oh, he's probably   and just get weird. People who do these extra stuff.  

Every one of them has just a weird life because you have to go during random times of the day. You're not doing this if you've got a normal 9 to 5. Sure. And I was chatting with this guy and he's like,   just just imagine like big stocky bloke, big beard. You're thinking like he probably is a mechanic or he does wrestling or   drugs and steroids. I don't know.   And I'm chatting with him. He's like, yeah, I basically my whole income is based off of my sausage dog. And he had an Instagram page for a sausage dog   and he would just post relentlessly on there and he made enough. Following. Massive following and he made enough from that. This is, you know, influences   2017. So I don't know if that was if they're in record influences   then probably but it certainly is not as big as it is now. And, yeah, just, just wow.  

You can make what you'd expect. You can make money from   random things. Yeah. Random things.  

[00:11:46] Kyrin Down:

Maybe there'd be more that's going the wrong path and you just   go get a couple of different dogs and just post them all and just see what works. So I have been thinking of taking over my brother's  

[00:11:56] Juan Granados:

Instagram account of his dog, Butters.  

[00:11:58] Kyrin Down:

Or does he have does he have an Instagram account? He does. He does.  

[00:12:01] Juan Granados:

Now he utilized that more for picking up girls,   which I probably also would,   but it would be fun experimenting, playing around with the Instagram account of, you know,   I already do it for the MIM models, but that's   that's more of a,   how would I has that's more of like a reminder type thing that I've I've always viewed it as it's like, hey, we're just out here. We put out a new episode if you want to go look at it.   Whereas that one it could be like, I'd actually probably be more creative with it. I'm trying to make funny videos and things. So yeah. Something interesting that you bring from that. I was thinking   of taking that over. Okay. Damn. Well, you know, if the big stuff you'd like can do the dash hounds. Yeah, exactly. Is money. Exactly. Yeah. I can't butters. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You can. You make a lot of money. So should we should we save the boat story for after the boostgram? Because there's gonna be a for everyone listening. There's gonna be a shorter episode. Yeah. We'll do a short 45 minutes. I   reckon. Okay. Let's do the boostgrams. I could be good a few. Yeah. So for those who are wondering what's a boostgram?  

A boostgram is a   payment   of support that you can send through us directly to us via a podcasting 2.0 app. So a modern podcasting app where you get all sorts cool features like transcripts,   chapters, the ability to go live. We should hopefully be live on them now.   And   you can also send some support our way because there's a value for value podcast and we just ask for some time, talent or treasure back. In this case, we've got a couple of people who have sent some treasure and they've attached a note to it as well. So it's going to be an interesting. Plus I read them out. Some of those things you signed to list out now I have seen  

[00:13:38] Kyrin Down:

that a lot of the more mainstream   podcasting platforms, your Spotify, Apple, the others as well. Now I have a few of those things that we're starting to list. I wonder if these value for value enabled podcasts will step it up or start changing things or just stay the course and focusing on the actual so they structures. So those ones would have  

[00:13:57] Juan Granados:

so Apple has transcripts.   They create a lot of it themselves, but they do support the transcript tag. I think Spotify is still from what I know, just   it's doing all of its own thing. So it would be auto transcribing. If you want chapters in there, you have to put   chapters in to their system, all that sort of stuff.   So   they have it, but it's  

[00:14:19] Kyrin Down:

kind of like if you want your video. It's their system. It's their ecosystem. You want the video everywhere. You can't just put it in one place. Now you have to put on YouTube, then you'd have to go to Rumble, then you'd have to go to Vimeo, then you'd have to etcetera. Gotcha. Okay. There you go. All right. I'll read this out first with a comic comic. He says through a row of ducks, 2,222   sat set in Carlton. Thank you, Cole. He says, I had a breakthrough with my meditation practice earlier this year. It's called heart centered meditation.   In 3 steps, you slow your exhales, focus on your physical heart, feel the emotions of love, gratitude, and peace.  

Cycle through them and focus on one of them align your nervous system first current then brain and heart then gut anchor then with a positive emotions everything is emotional.  

[00:15:03] Juan Granados:

Nice. Thank you, Cole. Much appreciated. I've   I haven't tried that one before. I think meditation is one of those things where it's just it's kind of like based on your personality.   I find the basic   just focusing on your breath the most beneficial for me.   I've tried doing some, some chanting, some humming before. Never really got into it. It's always been a felt a bit weird to me. Yeah, it's kind of like singing. I'm not really comfortable singing. Oh, really? Yeah. On your own? Are you are you? I'm like, no. I'll on my own and sing on my own. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Especially in a group setting.   Mhmm. Yeah. It's true. But,   yeah, that that sounds good. Gladys, he's finding, some tranquility. He's had a he's had a pretty big year,   as well as  

[00:15:48] Kyrin Down:

me. Thank you, Carl. Appreciate it.   We got a few from Peter. So   all of them I'll just call it out now. All of them are 2,222   sets and using fountain all the rise of ducks. So quack quack. So fountain is one of those apps,  

[00:16:02] Juan Granados:

podcast   guru, true fans, podcast, customatic. They're all rock solid as well. Recommend trying one of those.  

[00:16:10] Kyrin Down:

So, Peter, a couple of so I'll go for the first one here. Really cool cracking open an old journal and remembering the person who you once were compared to the person you are today. Some amount of effort, you can invoke that former person, but now with wisdom, you've gained quality conversation, guys. Cool. Yep. Thank you, Peter. And I've actually had a conversation with someone who came over on Friday night. We were having a chat with her and I was saying about I'm also starting to document Vienna's sort of day to days and whatnot.   And she asked kind of a similar question and, like, oh, you know, she gets often asked because she's got 2 daughters around. Oh, you know, what we what you're like now with your younger daughter? Were you like that with your older daughter at that current time? And she was kind of like, well, damn, I don't actually know what my mind state was during that time.  

But even I went back to   when Vienna was 10 months old, 8 months old, and the way that I'm documenting   it, again, there is some information, but I'm starting to see, like, oh, I'm not putting enough info in there to really be able to extract   meaningful   details, I guess, of my   mental perspective too, I guess, as Peter   saying, be able to   look at it within the wisdom we've got now. I can do that now with my own self. I think I've got it in a good structure, but not what I'm documenting for her. So I'm like, oh, okay. I should probably, like, put some more effort there to actually improve it. Yeah. 2 things on that. So one was it actually is really useful because I had another look back in early 2020  

[00:17:30] Juan Granados:

of   the breakup that I have with my girlfriend at the time. And man reading my own   observations from then, I'm like, geez, okay, this was different from what I thought   it was, especially just in with regards to like communication. I thought it was a more   like   event that happened, but it was actually more of a spread out kind of   disassociation,   I guess you'd say, of just like a lot of that'd be days,   not not weeks, but a period where we just wouldn't talk at all. It's like, oh, I didn't even remember that. That was crazy.   And then the second one was my dad has just sent me a   document of   a diary kept or observations,   notes of myself and my brother when we were young, especially if like funny things would say or   just observations   and you can really see personality characters back then I was a goody two shoes. My brother was,   so naughty, so naughty. He was always complaining   and he'd even create these contracts with my dad physically like print them out. Yeah. And it would say something along the lines of,   Dad, you're being sued by Prentiss to the amount of like $500   you need to appear   in Prentice's bedroom on the 5th October at like 9 p. M. For   investigation.  

Tony is going to be my lawyer and like all of this is in really poor spelling, really poor handwriting. My brother is not great at that.  

[00:18:57] Kyrin Down:

So, yeah, it's it's definitely worth keeping notes for for things like that. That's funny. That sort of stuff you wouldn't remember unless it was kind of like documented down. Not at all. So I think like question, Peter, I appreciate that you found that quality.   The other one which actually just looking into that again, this is the first time I'm actually looking at this. Peter says, for a deeper understanding of LLMs,   so large language models, check out 3 blue one browns playlist. I really love that guy.   And he sent through a YouTube link, which is about neural networks. So okay. I don't think I've ever heard of that, so I'll take a look. I've heard of I've heard of that guy before. I've mentioned I've list I've listened to really, really, really, really long podcast conversations. I'm doing 5 hour long conversations about neural networks and LMs and   3 hours in. I'm like,   my brain's fried. I'm not I'm not understanding of like taking in any more of this. Now this, I I know of that guy before he does a lot of math and science related things. Okay. So must be able to like break it down pretty interestingly.  

And the last one he says sorry and this is in relation to our,   our   Canadian   soup?   Maple soup. Maple soup. I'm sorry. Well, at least you got one home. Great. We still haven't tried it. I was actually talking about making some pancakes this morning and making it but there was no time now. Let's do it next week, man. Next week. So next week, we'll we'll try them. Maybe even eat one live. Who knows?   Next week.   Yes, we will be able to do next week. I'm just thinking like, oh, no, we're not gonna be here, but we will. Yeah. So so thank you, Peter. And and Cole. Thank you. Obviously, I was joking. It was very much appreciated.  

[00:20:28] Juan Granados:

That was very nice. We'll try them out. So no, no, no, for people at home. Don't don't give, you know, 2 to 3 kilos worth of extra stuff out of the blue for someone who's traveling. Yeah, they might not have the space difficult.  

[00:20:39] Kyrin Down:

Alright, so because we just on the time, I'm not gonna look, I've talked a little bit about John D. Martini. I'll basically say  

[00:20:47] Juan Granados:

all the time we're on this. Was it worth it? Did you enjoy?  

[00:20:49] Kyrin Down:

Well, he gave a speech, right? It wasn't a speech. It was it was more like we sat in a room imagine a meeting room of like   a meeting of the size of for 20 people, 30 people and those 12 of us in there. Yeah. And we just had back and forth conversations. Yep. That's basically it.   So it went for but it went for a and this goes to the to the guy. So this is the only thing I'll say about the guy.   Whichever way you wanna slice this, go on, check him out, see some of these videos.   The dude is   you know like what you hear with people who can like work really like it's only Romans, okay. So like it's only Romans, I guess he's the most marketable one.   Out there. He's like, oh my god. He does, like, a 8 hour, 10 hour day and he's talking and doing all these things. Maybe he doesn't do it as much anymore because some of the people there also had gone to Tony Robbins things and now he does a lot of videos and he's not as much in person. Alright. He's an older guy.  

But this guy works   ridiculously hard. Obviously, his ballets are more about   learning and teaching than it is family and other things. But the the the so the event was supposed to be in the morning,   but he couldn't make it in the morning because he was still doing a presentation or something in Houston, Texas.   So he had to get a later flight, then arrive in Brisbane at, like, 6 in the morning on on red eye, and then just went straight through all the way till the nighttime for the stuff that we're doing and engaging.   He, like, left us at about 11 PM. So 11 PM for it all finished up. By that time, dude, I was, like, dead tired and he had like, he was saying again, did he follow through on this? I'm not sure. But he had a few more emails to go through, a few more meetings that he wanted to do, another teaching a little bit later.  

And, like, someone actually genuinely asked him, like, you know, on the altitude, all my sleep needs, like, oh, yeah. Not much. Not much. But he he seems like the character of   every day, it's, like, ridiculous hours out of enjoyment, I'm assuming, you know, that he really, really enjoys it. I was like, holy man. This dude, like seems to be operating on a really incredible   like amount of energy like I'm not sure where this guy is pulling it from. So   The universe. There's that universe.   So   a couple I'll probably slice it slide it in in talking about the the world chip thing in terms of like where that conversation came out. I'll probably that's as much as I probably say about that because it's Yeah. Honestly, while I did take away some of these things, it's like general things that we talk about and the others are so   the the word for it is esoteric. And whether you believe it or not or how you conceptualize it is almost the, like, okay, I don't know what's going and even himself, he was like, he was like, oh, you know what's what's happening? He's like, whoo. But he approached it with a very scientific,   like, scientific view of it.  

And he wasn't calling on being like, oh, this is how it works. He's saying like, oh, this happens.   So I was like, okay, I have no clue.   But the world, so   this   is the other, this is a big part of why I was interested, I guess in it. And I have said, I think I've shared some of it to Karen. I think I'll try to keep much of it   for this particular podcast.   So let's go. So the boat,   imagine a cruise ship, not not the size of a proper cruise ship, but cruise ships scaled down to maybe the third of the size or half the size because the cruise ships are pretty damn giant. This particular, you can, again, you can Google it up, the world   ship or something like that. The only people who can go onto the ship are residents on the ship. So you have to own one of the apartments or properties on on the particular ship. I think it's about a 100 properties that exist on this particular ship. If you own one of the one of the apartments or the properties, you get to vote as to where the boat goes to on a year to year basis.  

Again, because it went from, like, 1 bedroom apartments all the way through to 6 bedroom apartments.   1 bedroom apartments where   from what they were talking about about 4,000,000   US, right, with a cost of   10% of that basically on a yearly basis for ongoing fees and money. So the type of people who are living there are, you know, fairly wealthy. I can't remember the exact figure but you also have to have liquid assets not like house assets like a house or something else in the middle of that liquid assets to be able to pay for 20 years   or something like that. So again it's like Yeah. So it's again like quite a lot of money that you have to have available to be on this boat. Okay. So you can tell maybe what type of individuals would exist or like live on this particular boat. Because you can't, you're not just getting any random people. Yeah. To go there, to go on this particular boat, so it's in international waters. I have to take my passport to go on this particular boat and then I'll set some timing because I was talking about it shifted from morning to afternoon. We caught up with this group around 2 ish at Blackbird.  

I had a drink or 2 there,   took some tax taxis in there. So we were gonna go in there at about 4 ish time to deal.   And to get in there, we had to show our passports and you could not say, oh, we were there for a mastermind or a group meeting. No. You can't because you can't get on the boat. We had to be like, oh, we're just gonna see our friend, John Demartini. We're here to see our friend. That's the only way you're gonna get on this particular boat unless you go and buy one of these things. You're forced to lie. So we went in. So we we went into this particular boat. The boat itself.  

[00:25:40] Juan Granados:

Mhmm.   Did it impress you visually?  

[00:25:43] Kyrin Down:

Knew where was it stationed? It was in port? It was in the international port in Brisbane. So it was here for a couple of days. When I saw it from the outside, it wasn't it wasn't impressive in like it just looked like a mini cruise ship. So you wouldn't be like maybe if you see a cruise ship, you go, oh, that's huge. If you see a sleek yacht, oh, awesome. This is a mini cruise. Now, a mini mini,   it wasn't impressive. It wasn't that impressive, but the boat itself was built   early 2000. I think it was 2001, 2002   and while it had been renovated somewhat,   it still gave older vibes   throughout it. So when the I guess the way we would track it, when you get on the boat, you kind of go through the center of it and there's a giant like entryway and it more gives you a vibe of a   older hotel. It would be the equivalent of an off a hotel back in 2010,   say, that you go into and it's   semi   luxury, but you can tell that it's a little bit dated if you've gone into it now. That's the vibe that I got throughout it. Right. Things that the boat would have. So basically, as when we got in, he took us through John Di Martini took us through, like, an hour tour. I did, like, an initial hour to just show around. Then we went into this meeting room for, like, 3 hours to just go   full hardcore like imagine a podcast conversation with lots of people that's basically what it was and then another hour of   trying it around actually dinner first and then showing around for a couple like a half hour more before we headed off.  

So in that first hour, I guess we got to see the majority of what it's saying. So here's a few things over there. 1, they had a library with   a few a few books like not there wasn't a humongous library, but it was like quite a big lottery. But again, it's what made it special was,   I guess, the ability to source or do things that you would just find like, okay. Wow. That's pretty extravagant. So one, yes, they had a library there, but   kinda like a local library here in Australia, I guess. But if you any book you want, any magazine you want, any whatever, they'll get it for you. Just you tell them when you want it, they'll drop it off ready to go. Cool.   On a not daily basis, but this particular boat travels around the world and goes to different locations. Every time that they're traveling and going to a new location,   they will get everyone who is a resident will get a little booklet or pamphlet that's like graded for them. They'll tell them, this is where we're going. This is what's happening in around the area. This is where you could go. This is your holiday spots. This is the cultural traditions,   whatever.  

Here's 17 tour guides and you go go take out or do you wanna go and do this or do you wanna go that? So they'll get like like a tailored creative thing on a every basis that they go to a location that sort of comes with it.   Like a upstairs little gaming area, and by gaming, I mean, like, chess and board and whatnot. Restaurants, like, 11 restaurants. I think it was, like, 11 restaurants across the board, like, little cafe places.   The 1, an amphitheater,   which was   maybe   50, 70 sort of like seating in there. And again, what makes it,   different is, like, you know, like I was saying, they get roughly every month a Nobel laureate to come and present depending on what they wanna hear or if something interesting is happening in the world, but they wanna hear it from a particular person. They'll just be like, okay. Well, we wanna get that person to come and present or do it through close circuit television.  

Okay. It's kinda cool.   Tennis courts at the top, multiple pools, spas.   But so again, it's like a mini mini cruise ship. What do you expect? Spa with   the usual things that you'd find in a spa,   a gym?   The kind of like the normal things that you'd kind of a cigar room, a couple of different things.   But what was   so in this first initial   walkthrough of of the of the world, I was going around and I did stop a particular moment, kind of look around and seeing the things and what they would do.   And there's more and more I got sort of told. Right? And this is my initial impression. I was going like,   man, it's kind of shit. I went, this is kind of shit for 4, like, 4,000,000 plus whatever money you're paying and all this sort of stuff. And I went, man, this is not worth it. And the only bid that was worth it in my eyes, and I guess it's this way, is the people that you could interact with. So obviously, the people who live on this particular boat are going to be interesting or influential or successful.  

They they'll be from all direct and they're retirees.   There wouldn't be that many young people. Right? Well, see,   they did have like kids room, although John was saying that there was I think there's 13 year old or one. Yeah. I kind of mentioned families really living on this. This gets on to the other point though. When we were there, and again, okay, maybe it's Brisbane. So maybe it wasn't a bit. There was basically no one on the boat. Like, I think we saw what we were in there.   Maybe   7   people   who obviously like live on the boat or who aren't like sort of a property there. Mhmm. Most other people from what I could gather just don't even live on the boat. Like they have a place and they'll go on there maybe a few months out of the year, but otherwise they're just living in other houses or doing whatever they want. Right? People influential with money, so they just can't do that. But it made me think, you know,   one, it would be a little bit lonely if you actually decided to live full time on this boat because it's just not that many people.  

Like, we saw   you people who were having   dinner, like an early dinner, like this particular one lady, we were just walking through and, oh, woah, hello, John.   She was just on her own, like, on her own in a in a restaurant just with nobody else, with no one around as we walked by and I was like, kind of sad like I don't I don't know particular one what I guess what I guess it it it didn't   feel like a it didn't feel like a   home it just felt like a house like a location   but   when you're saying like you,   you don't wanna travel and you're like, oh, you go and have a food on your own type of deal. That's because you're,   if you had a default choice   to have food with friends or food with a partner or something like that. Yeah. You go with that. Yeah. This is like, that's a choice like you're making a choice like, oh, I'm gonna be here and it's kind of like knowing you're gonna be here on your own. Like that's Yeah. It's lonely. So it kinda, I got that vibe as we're going across   and again, I'm saying, like I'm not   disagreeing that it probably would be a really great opportunity for people who live on there. Right? Like, obviously, there's a gigantic opportunity and the interactions are freaking fantastic. But again,   I found this on the way home, on the taxi on the way home. I was trying to describe to the guy, shit that I did, he thought I was a worker. He was like, oh, you work on the boat? And I was like, I was in full suit. I didn't know, do you work on the boat? And I was like, no.  

No.   I kept trying to tell him like, oh, yeah. No. No. Like, you can't go on the boat. You have to, like, own one of the things. And I was telling him how much it costs or whatever. And he was like,   I   don't get it. That's unbelievable. Why wouldn't you just spend that money just traveling the world with that amount of money and just flying wherever you want and staying wherever you want? It was a little bit like,   look. I get it.   However,   the reason I think I got it in the way that he was saying it   was because we're not influential highly, you know,   top net worth individuals and if you are, honestly, probably things that you that matter to you is like security,   privacy, all these sort of things and they would get it in spades in this particular boat because you ain't gonna you ain't getting on unless you know someone into this particular boat. Yeah. The only reason that I could really think of it as a positive of everything you described is if you are  

[00:32:55] Juan Granados:

famous enough that, you know, if you were to go on a cruise ship, for example, you'd just get hounded relentlessly.   Yeah. Yeah. And that wouldn't be fun. So that that kind of privacy aspect,   it kind of reminds me of   what why do people like Citi so much? Because there's and why do really wealthy people live in   the heart of Manhattan or whatever.   Because they like the   action, I guess is what you call it that that networking.   And it kind of screams to me though, that it's only a 100 people. Like,   I don't know, like, is there an equivalent kind of gated community with with that  

[00:33:33] Kyrin Down:

way you can't because I mean, like, there would there would be really expensive,   like groups or like imagine like a golf, like an elite golf group or something like that. We're just really influential   high net worth people go because we have to pay a lot of money.  

[00:33:48] Juan Granados:

Was   were you told that   the reason people go here is for networking?   That's all you're just assuming? I'm just assuming I'm just as Yeah. So I could even I could even think that maybe, you know, maybe they're just rich recluses who don't want to speak to anyone. That's okay. I'll go on a boat where no one goes. That might be true. Yeah. Yeah. Because  

[00:34:10] Kyrin Down:

the if you actually go on the website for the world, the the way that they sell it is look, you can get yourself an apartment on this particular boat. You travel around the world on a continual basis. Like, you don't have to really worry about much because   what that obviously the yearly fee is ridiculous, but the yearly fee costs covered everything. So you don't and and the way that he expressed it, right? And again, this is not none of this   like that doesn't completely align, but I could get some of it For him, he was like, you   know, John,   his highest value is teaching. That's what he wants to do all the time. So on this boat, he gets to travel,   basically all these different places, which he does a lot of presentations in person and his sessions in person across the world. So he gets to just align it with that. He doesn't have to   he doesn't cook. He doesn't clean. He doesn't do his clothes. He doesn't do any, like, basically everything he's delegated. So, you know, you can go to any restaurant you want. You can get all your clothes taken care of. You have rooms cleaned up for you. All he can he has to focus on is just learning and teaching. That's all he does. So I could see where if you're really optimizing for that, okay, it is pretty costly,   but maybe it's really aligned to what you need. Fantastic. For him, he also seems to and you could tell because he would walk around the boat and say hello and really interact with people,   like, in a really fun manner. You could see that he'd be one of those people that really would enjoy   talking to 1 person for like an hour or 2 hours and learning from them and interacting and cool off I go to the next thing. And so that that's where I saw the most value. I was like, you know, that to me would be really cool. That to me aligns is like that would be really fun.  

But the cost and everything else that comes across and I was like, oh, it just doesn't seem, doesn't light me up that I want. In clip, I guess it's just me, right, the guest on the individual. He showed us a gym, another gym and there was like 2 sections to the gym, right. And, you know they're like, oh, it's God and it had a lot of things man, I had a lot of things.   All I could think about was like yeah there's not enough white and where am I gonna do cleans and where am I gonna do this sort of lifting? I don't think I could do this sort of thing and there's some space for handstand but maybe not that much. Yeah that's just how I'd be thinking about it whereas again, the probably the individuals that this is aligned for is not   that   that level   of enjoyment that comes from that is just enjoyment from elsewhere. The other thing with the networking would be  

[00:36:21] Juan Granados:

you exhaust people out for a while because I'm assuming you can't  

[00:36:25] Kyrin Down:

rent out your room to other people? I think you can. No, no, you can you can. Yeah. That that that makes a bit more sense. Yeah. Because they did talk about it right at the very end about the possibility of renting. And they did say that they could because sometimes,   what did he say? He said, I don't know if it was him or other people, when they go to Monaco,   they rent out their rooms and they'll go say somewhere in the city center because they can rent it out at such ridiculous prices that they're like, it's worth more or less to just rent it than to to do something else. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. Like, overall, I mean, I'll encounter it. So, like, looking at the at this ship. Right? And then sorry. And then we had dinner. We had dinner, like, the one of, like, the rooftop dinners, which was like an, sort of like Asian cuisine,   great food, great drink,   you know, long table. I got to have the the interactions and the people around were were nice. Everyone was nice.  

And so the boat and the tennis court and a few other things and all the things you could do. And I go, it just feels like a really expensive all inclusive,   you know, cruise ship that's real private and secure.   You know, does it sound like it's worth it to me?   Not really, but I could see very much so the people that it would be influential for. A lot of the so the group that we went with, there was actually one young guy who was asking plenty of questions around, like, hey. Like, tell me the details. I wanna kinda, like, buy buy a place. Like, I wanna say, I'm obviously   cared for it.  

And for me, I went,   again, my my summary thought of this, and I remember doing it. We were taking these final photos with with John and everyone else in the group, and it was at the kind of like the lobby. And the lobby was huge in the middle of the boat. I kind of just, like, stood there looking around and just kind of picture myself, like, you know, if if I lived here, like if I lived here, even if it was just like with the family and whatnot, I was like,   man, I'd hate this. I like genuinely was like, I'd hate this. And I think part of it is I like, I came home, I was like man,   this   is multiple times better for me, just for me. And I think it's more that attributed of it feels like home, not sharing with all the other peoples, I can be at home.  

Caveat here, I didn't see any of the peoples living at spaces.   So maybe, maybe, maybe it is crafted in a way that it would be really lovely, but all I could think of is like it probably would be like a hotel room and that doesn't give me the vibes of what I wanna be living all the time.   Was it like a unique   thing to see? Yeah. I believe it's the only one in the world. There is someone was saying that the Ritz Carlton group was doing another boat or attempting to do another boat like this, but as far as I I think is   known, this is the only boat in existence that does this   purely resident only type boat   on a large scale because I guess you can make a claim that yachts are the same that sort of scale, but, yeah, in this format, that's the only thing that exists that's kind of close to that. Like a floating it's a floating hotel. Really, that's what it is. A floating hotel and so you're removed away from a lot of individuals. You asked the question, you know, was it worth the the money? Go out and do it. To see the boat and experience it, part of it was, I think it was. It's an expensive tour. It's an expensive tour. For the people that I got to meet, really cool. There was a couple, so I've got a couple lined up on my phone in terms of some that I wanna get on the podcast because man, there's some really interesting dudes.  

Others,   I just never would have connected in any way shape or form that I go   that might be a cool person to just connect and interact and seem like a real cool person that,   I won't share his name but he'd come from Miami, like Miami Florida not too long ago because he works at a hedge fund and he's living down in the Gold Coast at the moment. I think he's still working for the US company, but just doing it out at the Goldie.   Seemed like he only transitioned over here, like, recently   trying to connect with people and whatnot and wanted to just just change. I know it seemed like a really friendly guy, but   the individuals he was talking about that he normally connects with, I was like,   oh, wow.  

That's like that's like   no names that I'd like on it on that you normally like if we're talking about it, like, pretty well known names. So I was like, wow, that's pretty cool. Another guy as well, I connected with Elon, Elon Musk and I was   like, that's cool. Like, that would be an interesting conversation. So there was   that to me, I was like, that was real worth it. Like, that was really, really cool. I also got to see,   again, I went go into it because it's just not that super interesting, the 3 hour conversation. So it was it was this conversation with John where Lewis basically presented him with, like, lots of ideas and thoughts and be like, cool. Just talk to it. Talk to it. Talk to it. And then it developed into a lot of conversations between all of us around different topics and whatnot. What he actually, what he does really, really well is   he really listens to the language you use.  

And just like a psychologist, you know, you might say, like, I've gotta do this or you should do that or whatever. And he's really able to pick it out. He he man, he's confrontational.   He's really confrontational. Well, someone would say like,   one guy who's successful and he's like, you know, I wanna grow my business, but I I really think I should be doing this with with my family. He was like, no, you don't.   No, you fucking don't. Like, your the way your language and the other guy was getting like kind of mad about it, like, kind of annoyed, like, no. I mean, John was like, I mean,   not name not many American. But the way that he was fighting, it was like, nah, fuck, you're wrong. Like, that's not what you're doing and ended up being, like, kinda correct. I was like, oh, shit. That's pretty fucking. But the other thing that was kinda like really good   was,   one other guy, I guess, I don't wanna say his name, but him and John went back and forth for a good maybe half an hour on a particular business idea and John was helping him out in terms of like, developing and how he would do it. And by the end of that, like, little half hour stint of conversation,   the guy had formulated enough of what he needed to do to kinda create this particular business that he was doing. And that was really cool. Like, that was   fun to see in live in person to be like oh shit that was   a really   like high level engagement of ideas that I like it would be the sort of ideas that maybe I would have when I'm at like pinnacle one when I'm like coffeed up and I'm energetic and I've like had a lot of,   like listen to good music. I'm like I can do this I can do that. It was like that non stop for some of these guys and I was like that is a I don't know if that's the norm or they were just again like at a high another spot maybe but I was like man that was like amazing it was like it was really amazing to see I was like man there's some people who operated just completely other spectrums. Yeah.  

For that so for that I'd say that a lot of that that value combined I went it was worth it, would I do it again? This is the interesting, so if someone said, oh, we're gonna go see this other guy on another   different time, maybe   it's a hotel that's like secured. I'm on a plane motherfucker, but I'm here to learn. Yeah. I don't think I would. I don't think I would.   However,   the thing that would tip me over in terms of saying yes again   would be again the type of people. If it was like a different pool and there's a different engagement of people, but it was equally like as interesting, it would tip me into like, yeah, yeah I'd do it because that that align was,   cool. It was just cool. It was yes. Obviously, you're paying for it, but it was one of those, like, forced interactions with people that you're gonna, you know, you're not gonna get this anywhere else, basically.  



[00:43:19] Juan Granados:

Yeah. So for that, it was nice. Yeah. So it's yeah. I mean, the whole the whole thing sounds like you're really paying for   paying for the opportunity to meet people   of  

[00:43:30] Kyrin Down:

a I don't know if you want to call it different class, different quality, different lifestyle than it's like the example of like, again, would I would I pay? I think again this is ages ago Tony Robbins says he charges a $1,000,000 for a session with like a personal 1 on 1 session. Do I think it'd be worth a $1,000,000 to do a 1 on 1 session with Tony Robbins?   No.   Would I be maybe influenced into going to a 3 day event with a lot of people that he's part of for a regrant, for a grant? Okay. I could see myself because I could see some potential value when just the   if anything, just the energy that you might get out of that because you're spending money. So it makes you then feel like you need to go and put use that for something. So it's kind of in a similar sense where I went, yeah, the money was valuable. It did put me into   a good into a good mood that came from it and lots lots of conversations that have come out of from it as well.  

But I wouldn't necessarily go on spending such   ridiculous amounts of money, at least in my eyes, to just interact with 1 on 1 person directly.   Maybe that comes into my base value. I don't think anyone's so valuable that they'd be worth that much. Like, how much are you really gonna get from 1 person?   Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you can't get a lot from 1 person.   I don't know. I've never attributed like that much value to something and being like, oh, yeah, that's totally worth whatever money. Yeah. The only thing I've fantasy is a strong word, fantasize. But  

[00:44:49] Juan Granados:

I remember reading books in the past or maybe it was movies where   basically it's,   you know, rich older guy,   or, you know, famous artist or something like this. And you think they're like, well, they're operating on this really high level. They're doing all this crazy stuff. And then actually behind the scenes, it's like their butler who's like pulling the strings and there's the actual, like, smart guy. And this and they're, they're just a front. There was this,   artist who was really,   really well renowned for a while,   basically like putting out all this like amazing art. The world was going wild for it. And it turned out it was actually his wife just, you know, drawing all of these things. And he was just   taking the credit and marketing it. And apparently he was a complete asshole as well.  

But yeah, I've always thought like, okay, if I was going to, you know, want to, to meet   influential people or things like this, I wouldn't go at the route that you've gone of paying a bunch of money to go on a boat with them. I would probably be like, Alright, I'm gonna I'm gonna like, tutor their children or something and then sneak my way into their family into the hard living with the good graces, the pencil individual, the individual, right? Like, there would just be some people that  

[00:46:00] Kyrin Down:

are honestly,   no matter what you did, I think you have to just do some sort of monetary way to try to get yourself into the field. I don't think so. You know,  

[00:46:09] Juan Granados:

let's just take someone very influential Donald Trump. Now he's probably got a favorite   golf   caddy or something like that. Yeah. And and, you know, that golf caddy would probably spend more time with him than   people who are same with Tony Robbins. He's probably got a favorite   chauffeur or favorite something, someone who just, like, hangs around them.   Probably don't even have that much skills, but they just   maybe he likes them. They got in the right time. It's kinda like the the guy who   painted   a mural or the painted the offices for Facebook back in the day and got, you know, the equivalent of 100 of millions worth of stock now, obviously, at the time though,   that was so broke that they were just paying him in stock.  

So I think there'd be an access   if you wanted to get close to someone and then perhaps no and then try and put it this way and put the charm on and I'll put it this way control them. Is it is it all  

[00:47:05] Kyrin Down:

would it would it be possible? Yes.   The statistical percentage of that actually coming to fruition. Yeah. Yeah. If I I think if I try that would it be easy to do that now? It would be easier   to pay to go to a charity gala that is being hosted by a particular individual if they're like money related and go and be president and meet the person then it would be to go down that that  

[00:47:25] Juan Granados:

probably would be even easier   is doing a promotional work and you get access into those which I have done. Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. And   you can make an impression. So   another just a little quick story before we finish up. So when I was doing promotional work, I   went to   it was like the Media Conference of Brisbane. Basically, it's the big annual event where all the people   from the big media stations. So just think like Channel 7,   newspapers,   TV stations, newspapers.   I don't know what it'd be nowadays be actually kind of interesting. Maybe that would have more, you know, influencers slash local   celebrities, maybe even podcasters. Who knows?  

And anyway, I went to this event and basically my job there was just to   sell raffle tickets   and it was   known in advance so people   already knew they know you're going to come around to the table and they're   semi expected to buy raffle tickets.   And, you know, it's   at least then it was bloody painful process, you got these fucking tickets, you're going around 2 at a time. So one person is dealing with the, you know, ripping off the stubs and writing shit on it. And so you get   if and one person's kind of doing the sound like, Hey, guys, how you going? And usually it was a guy and a girl. And usually the girl would be the one who was selling the most.   And then the guys, you know, I was the grunt. I was I was pulling off tickets. But if you're charming enough, you could switch it around. And   you got a minute to chat with who I assume are pretty influential people, at least in media wise,   1 on 1. And, you know, if you're just funny enough   or charming enough and you go to like a quick impact, you gotta you gotta commit to kind of sell yourself to a whole bunch of different  

[00:49:16] Kyrin Down:

people. And you should be wearing me more shirt.  

[00:49:19] Juan Granados:

Yeah. Should I had it, you know, 4 years, 3 years in advance of us actually creating it? That's a good point. Actually. No, that's that's actually  

[00:49:28] Kyrin Down:

that's a good that was a good challenge because now that you said that I went, you know what, that actually would be a better way because it's the   yes, paid gets you access,   but it doesn't get you the potential   recognition or respect that you might get because you just say by paying whatever, there's $1,000 here. But if you make an impression,   I've kind of out of the blue that you didn't expect,   then it's like, oh, wow, that's gonna get you on the receiving end of something like that. So if you  

[00:49:55] Juan Granados:

so just say like an aspiring artist of some sort,   and you could charm   the biggest media people.   And then, you know, just rock up to their offices   the next week or something. And then just be like, oh, shit, it's that guy, you know? No, that's a good point. I think there's an in if you want to. Okay.  

[00:50:13] Kyrin Down:

Yeah, no, that's I'll take that. I'll take that. All right. Look, I'll summarize it here basically of the world for this ship. The world.  

[00:50:20] Juan Granados:

The world.   Well so for those who haven't seen Jojo's bizarre adventure as a you would have seen memes of it if you spent any time on the internet.   One of the characters do always shout to do  

[00:50:33] Kyrin Down:

well good check it out with the   but yeah, in short, it was it was interesting.   I don't need to go back onto the world to ship again realistically. I've seen it. I think you've convinced me not to go onto it. Yeah. I convinced you don't need to go onto it. If you want to get the equivalent go to a semi   luxury hotel from 2010s. I'd I'd give you a simple experience. Or or a big cruise ship and just imagine it smaller. Correct. Correct. The the individual's line went interesting. The actual event was interesting. It was worth it. I wouldn't repeat it again for the price that it was just because it's that I'm I'm not gonna get much more value really that comes out of that particular thing, but it helped me recognize 2 things. 1, do I really need such exorbitant wealth to live a happy life? Once again, I was like, no. Absolutely not. Like, I don't need that amount of money to be living on here for any reason at all. I mean, yeah, there's   happier doing other things elsewhere. In fact, the tracks from the things that I really enjoy, like training in in good areas of being able to have a home that's real really private and be able to walk around to, you know, like the food. I wanna walk around in my kitchen without shirt or Your best friends, you know, your best friends probably aren't gonna be wealthy enough to Yeah. To go onto this particular whatever it may be. So it's things like that.  

So there was there was that, like, realization, but then also the realization of actually one of the aspects that does interest me is the intrinsic connections with interesting people, which I made me go, like, you know, I I wanna lean more towards finding those environments where I'm gonna be able to interact with. Interesting and interesting here that that doesn't mean they're not, like, like really rich people right because   that doesn't have to be but it was   the interesting of the background of some individuals being like, hey that'd be cool and again I'm not gonna find that in commonplace occasions perhaps or like for the last you know 18 months or so with my daughter I've been largely whenever I go out it's to doing other activities that I'm already doing on a daily basis, gym or work or something else whereas I'm like, yeah,   oh, it it helped me be like, oh, I wanna get back to maybe doing some interactions with not just even my friendship group, but with others where I get to engage and interact with some new different people. That was obviously a forced one. Maybe there's more and more that I can do without having to pay substantial fees to go and do it. Yeah. So something to that. We'll leave it there. We'll start  

[00:52:45] Juan Granados:

getting ready for a interview. Yeah, that's one of the other things. So this is a live podcast for everyone who's wondering. We did have a couple in the chat. I saw some boys from Lucas and also Peter says the new studio then he's got a emoji emoji there. I think it's a smiley face. Peter,   we've used camera trickery on you. This is not exactly a new studio. The old studio. It's a new view. But yeah, reengineers   your camera used to be placed right about there and it was facing this way.  

[00:53:16] Kyrin Down:

So we've changed it around the big table. I like about it. The table that we still use. I've got the size. Yeah. I've also   I've got a comparison to last week's. I've swapped over the lights as well. I actually think I like that particular angle better because I'm not blinded when I was looking there. This is enough on the side that not blind areas. Yeah. If I look at that for a minute, it wouldn't be good. But Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because you're looking at it. Exactly. And and you'll see we'll hopefully   examine none any because I've like ran out of time. But with the book reviews, what I wanna be able to do is basically just step away from my computer. I can just sit down, bang, plug it, record it, makes it a lot easier. So appreciate it, Peter. Thank you. Yes. We put up a little bit more effort into some of the visuals as well. At least I'm in some of the   software putting together clipping and stuff like that. Yep. So it's easy. Like that's one of the suits. I wanted to be easy to do. Yeah. That's that's what's needed. Anyways, definitely. We'll leave it a value for value podcast.  



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