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What happens when you have too much?

In Episode #390 of 'Musings', Juan & I discuss: how this is different from net negative time sinks, politics/complaining/drugs, personality traits that can lead to time wasting, how to avoid the endless digital scrolling, whether you need to become minimalist, Jordan Peterson time accounting and why it's such an intractable problem.

Lots of tasty Satoshi support from Dave Jones, Bitcoinplusfood, Adam Curry & McIntosh. So, so appreciated!

Timeline:
(0:00) - Mere Mortals are necessary
(0:49) - Why this topic?
(2:13) - Definition & identification
(8:50) - The big superfluous things
(13:50) - Fashion & clothing choices
(16:47) - Perfectionist OCD behaviour & just in case news
(22:26) - Online consumption
(26:26) - Boostagram Lounge
(37:03) - The time factor
(45:42) - Minimalism & speech
(49:29) - Language needs to be rich and lengthy
(54:04) - Summary
(58:58) - V4V: Every satoshi is necessary!


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You can be. More. Welcome back.
Mere Mortalites to another

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edition of Musings.
You've got Juan here

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on the side of the Mike.
Kyrin here on the other side.

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And it's the 31st of May.
And today we're going

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to be talking
about superfluous things.

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Now, this particular topic,
and I'll give you a bit

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of a precursor musings for us
here, folks at home,

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unless you're a
mere mortals avid fan,

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we like to discuss
particular topics, things

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that we find interesting.
And to be honest,

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this one came up for me
in a myriad of different ways.

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And so I think it would be worth
having a conversation about

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and when I mentioned it
to you off air,

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you also seem to have
sort of thoughts and ideas

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already coming into this.
I think it'll be

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a pretty good fun
conversation, just one.

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So specifically,
I wanted to talk about

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superfluous things and, you know,
this could be a myriad

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of different ways into
how we try to deal with

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getting superfluous things
out of our way.

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How we might find them
useful, where we've been able

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to vanquish them, where
we're having difficulties.

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Yeah, plenty of things. How it
like so many podcasting

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perspective with arms and errors
and all this extra stuff

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that we might do. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah. So we'll

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get into a lot of that.
But the specific place

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where I got this idea
from was I'm raising

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reading at the moment
Discipline is Destiny

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by Ryan Holiday.
And in that book again,

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the short chapters
which I really love and one of

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the particular ones
was around superfluous this

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and I'll actually really directly
from Ryan Holiday's website

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because it's easier
and it was about

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keeping the main thing,
the main thing which I liked.

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So I wish I knew
how people do good, but I wish

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I knew how people do
good in long, sustained work

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and still keep
all kinds of other lines

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going social, economic, etc..
That's John Steinbeck,

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quite specifically.
The truth is that I

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it's impossible to be committed
to anything professionally

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or personally
without the discipline

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of saying no to all those other
superfluous things.

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So I like that. I like that
aspect of how you got to say no

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to all the superfluous things,
but more specifically,

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you kind of
have to figure out as well,

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Hey, well,
what is superfluous to our

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lives right? Because it doesn't
always have to be

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the same thing to everyone.
That's not the case.

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And a small definition
that I actually pulled up as well

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that I thought would be
helpful is for superfluous.

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This is is unnecessary.
But especially through

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being more than enough.
And I think that's the key piece.

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It's it's the
being more than enough.

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So if you could get away
with and here we're talking

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just in the conversation
in a podcast,

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if you could get away
with saying this sentence

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without adding arms as
and like like, like, yeah,

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then it's more than enough.
You don't have to

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add those things. Now we do that
just because it's

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a way of talking in the way
that we probably grew up

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and how we've just been
accepted in that way.

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And you'd have to kind of
crack it down if you needed to

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get rid of it. But that's
a little bit of a summary

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as to why that idea
sort of pops of mind. Next. Yeah,

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I wanted to add to that
the kind of definition for me.

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I wrote, If you stop doing it,
nothing would change.

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And I think therefore it's
it's not really a bad thing

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per se. So you really have to
identify, okay,

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even if you've got something like
a gambling addiction,

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for example,
I wouldn't say that's

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a superfluous thing
because that's really got a

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negative impacts.
If you stop doing it,

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things would change and you would
identify that. And you know,

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I think it's just useful to
to add in. Okay,

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that can be things
which you might not want

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and might not be helpful,
but they're not necessarily

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superfluous. Superfluous is,
as you kind of hinted before,

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it's it's, it's almost of the
too much thing.

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And if you stopped
using it, doing it, ingesting it,

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whatever it is, then nothing
that much would change

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in your life. You would just
have more time.

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And yeah, I think that's a.
Yeah, absolutely.

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I think it's the it's
the finding within and we'll

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probably get into that,
especially through examples where

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defining what is superfluous for
an individual is hard.

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And I'm going to say
I spent quite a bit of time

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thinking about it and going,
okay, is this

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actually superfluous or is it
it kind of feels necessary

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and maybe it is in some regards.
While there are.

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Would you do that?
How would you identify

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if something is superfluous?
Well, see, it does.

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I think it was predominantly the
with two aspects of

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is it necessary
or not necessary, one

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determined by the goals or what
you are trying to achieve again

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by a certain time
because it is very

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different that,
hey, if you want to run,

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if you want to run right,
if you want to go from the couch

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to five kilometres,
then it is superfluous to

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get to the minutia
of the specific issue that you're

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running with to, you know,
are you going down

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to the right seconds
in your pace strategy

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and your cadence?
It's almost superfluous

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to getting to five kilometres,
but that is very different to

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if you want to be
a five kilometre world champion,

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then it isn't superfluous
to be getting the absolute

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people that you need
because you kind of need

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that to get to that level. And so
I was trying to think

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in more in okay against the goals
that I care about. And that's why

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reading the Ryan holiday pieces
is kind of pre-set by

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what is the main thing
for each other.

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So, you know, for myself,
it's very different.

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The things that I need
to keep as the main thing

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versus for yourself.
And so we'll have

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different things that are
superfluous to one another

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because just as one thing
might be an unnecessary addition.

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So, you know,
we talked about this

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in the monthly goals.
If I was really going down

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the path of just going ahead
and creating a website,

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creating an app
and designing an app

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and building an app
and developing it,

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that's superfluous.
Realistically. Why?

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Because unnecessary at one point
it's more than enough

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in the sense of, Hey,
my goals here are looking

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after a baby, looking
after a family, doing the work

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that I'm doing, focusing
on the Mere Mortals podcast

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and a few other items
like creating an app

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is kind of superfluous
at this stage. Unless there was a

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specific strategy that I was
putting it down to the podcast.

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And even then it's probably
not even the

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right level of priority.
So I think it's being quite

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aware of what the main thing
is for one another

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and then whether
something is unnecessary

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or superfluous
to achieving those goals.

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And you can't. And I think
this is the trap

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that people can get into.
You know, as

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I was reading this is
I can imagine people

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kind of falling into a, well,
everything's a priority.

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If everything
is a priority, Well, nothing the

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priority, right? If you go
if everything's

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a main thing, nothing's
the main thing.

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So you have to have one, two,
maybe three at the backs

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of the main things,
everything beyond that,

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you could start turning
it as being superfluous.

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For me, when I identify it,
I usually need a kind of

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secondary symptom sort of thing,
so I can't really know that.

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Well, in particular,
if this one action

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that I'm doing, if that's
superfluous or not,

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But usually it's kind of
I'll have a kind of

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underlying anxiety or something
like that in my life where,

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you know, things will be
relatively good or the same

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is kind of usual
and we've all got

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that bullshit and stuff,
but you kind of deal with that,

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you accept it,
you move on, etc., etc.

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But there'll be times
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just like a little bit anxious.
I kind of describe it as,

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as an energy
that has been pent up

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or something kind of
and it's not getting

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released correctly.
And so usually that's when all of

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I can kind of identify,
Oh, I'm doing some silly things

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like overstretching,
I like to stretch

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before I work out and stuff, but
there was times when I would

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go through these massive sessions
sessions in the morning

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and then I would also have
at 45 minutes of kind of

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stretching before I would do
the actual workout. And I would,

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I would just be overdoing it.
It was so much that I didn't

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need to do it.
And so that was definitely

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that kind of, Oh, is this?
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usually result in me
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quick in my workouts
or I would extend them out

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and then that would push
this other thing out

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that I was planning
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or evening, etc., etc..
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there's definitely times,
I think when it's I,

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I think I can identify when I'm
doing some silly stuff

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or some stuff
that's just not needed

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because I'll kind of get anxious.
Just a general anxiety if I'm

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doing that particular task
or even just in general. Okay,

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So I had a question
for actually thinking

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it might be a good step
and you can already gave

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an example here of one
superfluous things that maybe

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perhaps you were doing in kind of
moved away eventually.

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But so I want to ask you
and I can answer as well,

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and then we can look at it
from the other manner.

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And I think it might help me
moralise out there is

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is there a thing that
maybe generally can be considered

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superfluous in most everyday
people's lives that

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either, you know, you vanquish,
that you've been able to manage

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or you've been able to
just kind of

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really just bypass it,
or even if it is just to yourself

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where you go, Oh yeah,
I've been able to manage that.

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I've been able to contain it
or just deal with it quite easily

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and you can continue to do it.
I wrote three big ones down.

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This I think will apply to
most people, not all.

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Number one politics
it reminds me of

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this is Ginsberg,
quote Allen Ginsberg.

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So he's a guy who was a poet
around the time of Jack Kerouac

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when he wrote Kerouac,
when he wrote On the Road.

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And so this quote is,
I saw the best minds

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of my generation
destroyed by madness, starving,

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hysterical, naked,
dragging themselves

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through the Negro streets
at dawn,

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looking for an angry fix,
angel headed hipsters

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burning for that ancient
heavenly connection

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to the starry dynamo
in the machinery of the night.

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So it's very poetic,
but I always like that first bit

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the best minds of my generation
destroyed by madness.

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I think politics is that man.
If you focus

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too much on politics, your mind
and your whatever is

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that makes you a human
just gets degraded.

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You're thrown into madness.
I feel that it's

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just such a waste of time
for almost everyone to show

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an even iota of interest
in politics because it's just

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you can't affect it.
It's one of those things

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where it's just talking
about things. And if you saw

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the people taking this kind
of same level of analysis

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onto the the Keeping Up
with the Kardashians or something

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like you would just be like,
look at this idiot.

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They're wasting their life
obsessed with these people

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who don't give a shit about them.
And yet I see politics

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exactly like that.
So that's one of them.

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I think too much time
under the influence

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of anything really mind
body body altering.

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So if you drink too much,
I think that's superfluous.

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That's kind of an even getting
into that negative

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sort of territory. How many times
have we gone out in

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just in our lives and this is
you and me I'm talking about

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where we've had too much to drink
and we've kind of blacked out

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portions of the night or,
you know, it's just it's degraded

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the experience of what
that night was.

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There's been nights
where I've I've

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overdrawing, obviously,
and I've blacked out

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and that is just
totally superfluous.

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That's just a straight up
night of my life

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that is now gone. There's nothing
there's nothing in there.

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I can't remember
if it was great or not.

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It's just poop.
So I think I think when you

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if you get yourself
to a chemical state

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where it's too much, that
that's probably superfluous

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and then the last one
complaining,

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we're all guilty of this,
but it's so much more noticeable

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when it comes from others,
and especially when it has

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no follow up action
related to it. So yeah,

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those are, I think the big three
that I, I particularly

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notice and ones which
the politics one I'm

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pretty good at avoiding,
but those are the two

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that creep up every now and then.
And so I got a.

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Chance to say like,
say with politics

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I think you're pretty good
because you deviate away

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from that hard,
but from the substance

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and, you know, complaints
from Trump and from the. Yeah.

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From your perspective,
do you find that

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it's still a thing
that, you know, in occasions

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it'll just come, it'll come up
and you'll it'll kind of override

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your feeling of even knowing that
it's superfluous.

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It's not. As bad.
I think this is just the

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benefits of getting older.
It was unthinking before when

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you and I used to go out
with friends and I would drink

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to excess.
That was kind of a do it.

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And then I'd repeat a
month later, I don't do that

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as much anymore. And if it is,
it's it's kind of a mistake

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per say rather than a continual
bad habit. It's it's more,

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you know, I went out
with you guys and I'm a lot more

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conscious of it now for sure.
So I guess and I guess

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old term them as you know,
these are superfluous things

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which are known knowns like,
you know, you know,

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they're superfluous and you know
what's going to happen

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actively if you choose
to go down that path, but choose

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not to quite often. So that's
politics complaining

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or, you know, excessively
consumption of alcohol

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or anything else. Yeah.
So those are definitely

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ones for me, but I think
those are probably

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the most general type of ones
that I kind of see.

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That I can see from others.
I think for me,

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one of the ones and look,
this might not be super general,

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but I tend to think it can be
one of the things

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personally where I've found that
I've been able to do away

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from this superfluous thing
that, you know, to see it

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when you see people
walking around

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is clothing choices.
And I think you

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also similarly do this as well.
For me, honestly, for

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a long time, my life I haven't
particularly cared.

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They might have been sections of
my early work days

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where I really wanted
to wear the jacket or with a tie,

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wear the right shirt. Nowadays,
I want to be frank with everyone.

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I tend to just buy.
If I like a shirt

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type of material,
I'll just buy it.

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I'll buy five of them. I'll buy
the same shorts about

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and it doesn't matter. I just go.
So one of the things

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I've been getting into as well is
maybe because it's winter,

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maybe because it's
I'm more comfortable.

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I'm starting to wear shirts
which are way larger

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than I really would need them.
So this year, the moment

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that I'm wearing, you know,
what sort of sizes

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this looked like
for people at home, obviously

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might not be able
to see the video.

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You know, watching it
will be a guess because.

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Well, I just know you. So I,
I would I would be guessing

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like an extra large or something.
Well, that's yeah.

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And that's kind of like
the look and feel.

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I'm going to buy the triple
extra large I'm going with. Yes.

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I've got I think I've bought,
you know, I'm like cheep,

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cheep, cheep, cheep shirts
but I've got 1050 new extra

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large shirts
and it's the superfluous

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nature of it.
It's unnecessary to fit in.

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And there's, you know,
you can tell me it's superfluous

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to have so many shots
and maybe that's true,

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but it's unnecessary
to have to have, you know, Tommy

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Hilfiger jumper, orange shirt
or all these other things

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to me really is,
yeah, I'm fine wearing

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just plain clothes
that are quite cheap,

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that are just easy,
and they've got

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a good quality to them.
It that's enough. So I think that

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that's what the. Ones where
I went through a phase

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because I'm not naturally great
at matching colours

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interior design decoration
that kind of artistic feel for

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what is isn't acceptable.
You know when I was buying suits

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I would always
jump onto the websites,

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whereas you can wear this
with this colour.

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Shoes should match the belt,
socks should match the trousers.

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That sort of, you know, learning
all the general rules.

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And I remember there was a period
where I did try and care

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about matching my clothes to
make it more stylish, I guess.

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And I never noticed anything
compliments or distractions

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either way. It was just, yeah,
it was just extra effort

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for no benefit. But I bet
I've noticed that difference

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in some in some regards.
But honestly, the difference

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between me wearing a an expense
and I've got a

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very expensive t shirt
that I'm going to,

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one that I made about
I had made for show.

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I was like, Oh,
I want to buy a shirt.

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Do you think I've noticed
a difference between me

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wearing that? I'm wearing
a, you know, $5 shirt

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when I go out and about?
No, absolutely no. And so for me,

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it's kind of like
it's superfluous and even minute,

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you know, that buying that shirt
to me I can identify

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like that's so superfluous,
at least for me. For me, like,

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why would you even
need to do that?

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So I think that's probably
the key one.

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Give me another example.
I mean, you only mentioned

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the stretching one,
but there is another one

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that, you know, there's a
is an item in life way.

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You know, it's a pamphlet.
So it's a known,

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but you almost either
can't help yourself

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in doing it or
you're almost deeming it as

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kind of, no, it's superfluous,
but I feel like it's necessary.

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Is it something in your life
where you go, I'm still

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struggling with this,
even though I kind of know

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that it's superfluous to my life.
Yeah, this would be personality

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related to liking things
neat and orderly. So things like

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cutting the vegetables
to a certain size, for example,

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or making sure they all get diced
or podcast related stuff.

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You know,
I used to be really finicky

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about the ID3 tags and
it's okay to be finicky

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as long as you're measuring
if it's having an outcome

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or not is.
Here's a classic example.

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So I've been creating
a lot more shorts

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and clips slightly,
and for each of them

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I was filling in
as much data on the YouTube

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upload as I could
location where it was film's date

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that was filmed. Extra tags
that might be useful, you know,

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full on descriptions for each,
each one describing

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what is going on
in the clip as well.

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Now, I did this
for probably three or four months

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now, three months.
And then I had to look at,

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okay, what's
every other YouTuber doing that?

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They've got, you know,
more popular clips,

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they've got more viral stuff,
and none of them had, you know,

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even just putting a hash tag
in the description

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almost seems like
overkill nowadays.

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So now I just have it upload
maybe two or three

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hash tags as it's uploading
and then just go

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put it in a playlist.
Even that is probably excessive.

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Move on. And the point is,
I was doing

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all of these extra things
and it was because I like filling

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in, you know, those boxes
to be filled in.

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Oh, you. Know, so yeah.
Wanting to jump into.

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The field complete almost.
Yeah, exactly. And it was having

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no noticeable benefit And
so I just stopped doing that

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and it had no
noticeable detraction. So

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yeah, it's those, those are
more like personality things

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where it's, it's kind
of doing the routine

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because I like the routine
means I don't have to think

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doesn't mean it means I don't
have to experiment, doesn't mean

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it means I don't have to analyse
and that can

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I can get myself into a rut
sometimes by being too finicky.

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And you've seen plenty
of this of examples

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when I would make sure
that all of our spelling

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was on the podcast was
tip top shape, I would make sure,

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you know, I've just got too far.
So that that's kind of a

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personality thing
for myself. Definitely.

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Yeah, I can.
A lot of people would share

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that as well. My one and I
and I, you know this

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and definitely I know this,
but it's still something that I

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even as I'm out of, I'm going
to articulate it now. I know,

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but it's kind of necessary.
But deep down I kind of know

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it's superfluous, which is
just getting too much news

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with too much information.
There's is there's an

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overabundance slash,
unlimited amount of information

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that you can really get in
today's age. Right.

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And I will often find myself
in the mornings

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still going through
a bit of a even

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even if I'm, you know,
chockablock busy.

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There's a lot of things somewhere
deep down to me, guys. Hey,

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I'll still want to
just check quickly

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just the latest
financial information

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and the latest
Brisbane information and I

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also the latest Moscow Times
and what's happening in China

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and what's happening in the U.S.,
what's happening

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in the stock market here.
It was up and I'll get into this

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mentality of there's more,
there's more this morning.

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No, there's more to understand
of what's happening

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and that could be a good thing
in some regards. But again,

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if I was to really look at it
very directly and go,

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well, what's the what's the thing
that I'm trying

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to keep as the main thing,
it isn't actually that helpful.

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It is unnecessary for me to know
or for me to be able

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to articulate to people, Hey,
there was an earthquake

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in Melbourne yesterday
and oh hey, by the way,

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rents are going to rise
potentially by 10%

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in the Australian area
because of this. Not in the RBA

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conversation that happened.
So am I know that

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I'm articulate here and maybe
I'll share like 10% of that

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with somebody else
and 2% of the off chance

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that I'll have a conversation
with someone at random

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and go, Hey, you know,
I've heard about this,

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but honestly, so probably 99.99%,
it's superfluous. And if I didn't

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do it at all,
which there was times

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in the last month where I didn't
just because of circumstance

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didn't change anything,
and I kept the main thing

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being the main thing.
So that's something where I know

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it's superfluous, but man,
I struggle heaps to

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get away with it
often because I find myself

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with the time
to be able to do that.

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So I'll always schedule in, Hey,
I'm going to give myself

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15 minutes
while I'm having a coffee

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or something or some tea to go
and find out this information.

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Whereas you know,
that's kind of superfluous.

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Maybe there are other tasks
I could be doing so that I

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15 minutes
are probably better spent

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on doing the main thing
because again, added up over

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time, it's not just
the time that it takes up,

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but it's the mental capacity
and the mental space

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and the even not doing it
on a day and then going, Oh,

444
00:22:19,086 --> 00:22:21,506
I wonder what's happening.
I should go and check out where

445
00:22:21,506 --> 00:22:22,715
I'm supposed to be
keeping my mind

446
00:22:22,715 --> 00:22:25,009
on the main thing.
So I think that

447
00:22:25,009 --> 00:22:26,803
that's the predominant
one for me. It might be worth

448
00:22:26,803 --> 00:22:30,848
lingering on this because I think
this is probably something that

449
00:22:30,848 --> 00:22:33,309
for the audience members
they would struggle

450
00:22:33,309 --> 00:22:35,854
with the most. I'm guessing
this is probably

451
00:22:35,854 --> 00:22:38,230
the be the most common
problem of online

452
00:22:38,230 --> 00:22:41,442
consumption of things
and that being superfluous,

453
00:22:41,442 --> 00:22:43,862
that's probably if I had to
guess what would be

454
00:22:43,862 --> 00:22:46,655
the main superfluous thing
that people would identify as

455
00:22:48,032 --> 00:22:52,496
they overuse. And there's no
benefit to the overuse.

456
00:22:52,496 --> 00:22:56,665
I'm guessing it would be digital
and online stuff. So what

457
00:22:56,665 --> 00:22:58,919
do you have any thoughts?
Because this I don't think

458
00:22:58,919 --> 00:23:01,296
is particularly applicable to me,
but we can kind of

459
00:23:01,296 --> 00:23:04,758
get into that as well. Well,
do you have any thoughts on

460
00:23:04,758 --> 00:23:07,844
how you identify
if it is too much news

461
00:23:07,844 --> 00:23:12,223
or it's the right
quality of news or of

462
00:23:12,516 --> 00:23:15,977
this particular topic
that you're investigating

463
00:23:15,977 --> 00:23:19,730
or listening to at the moment?
Is it just another

464
00:23:19,730 --> 00:23:21,817
rehash of stuff you've already
heard before?

465
00:23:21,817 --> 00:23:24,736
Is it evergreen content or is it
something that will disappear

466
00:23:24,736 --> 00:23:29,907
within three months time?
Yeah, I mean, it ultimately,

467
00:23:29,907 --> 00:23:33,369
I think comes back to the
keep the main thing,

468
00:23:33,369 --> 00:23:36,455
the main thing.
And if it isn't serving

469
00:23:36,455 --> 00:23:39,792
that purpose, not even you know,
not be 100%,

470
00:23:39,792 --> 00:23:43,003
but even 50% or you know,
you can't make

471
00:23:43,003 --> 00:23:46,298
an articulated regard as to why
it isn't serving the main thing

472
00:23:46,298 --> 00:23:48,593
because you can make
I can make an articulation as to

473
00:23:48,593 --> 00:23:52,055
why it's beneficial for me
to do that. But that's the same

474
00:23:52,055 --> 00:23:55,267
as saying, well, it's beneficial
if I go and stand on my head

475
00:23:55,267 --> 00:23:57,727
and practice that because
it will be good for whatever else

476
00:23:57,727 --> 00:23:59,438
and maybe
it'll be beneficial for me

477
00:23:59,438 --> 00:24:01,565
to try and do the splits.
But again,

478
00:24:01,565 --> 00:24:04,025
that's all the main thing.
So that's not a good enough

479
00:24:04,025 --> 00:24:08,654
answer that
there is a potential that for me

480
00:24:08,654 --> 00:24:10,740
personally, I say
it this way, it's

481
00:24:10,740 --> 00:24:12,784
it should be enough.
This the leeway

482
00:24:12,784 --> 00:24:15,703
I'm going to give myself
from an information perspective.

483
00:24:15,703 --> 00:24:18,373
It should be enough
so that the main thing which I do

484
00:24:18,373 --> 00:24:21,375
in which, you know, part of it
is interacting and communicating

485
00:24:21,375 --> 00:24:23,461
with people
on a day to day basis,

486
00:24:23,461 --> 00:24:25,838
work perspective
on a perspective, family

487
00:24:25,838 --> 00:24:28,842
perspective,
enough that I can have

488
00:24:28,842 --> 00:24:31,720
adequate conversations
about the general day to day life

489
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,473
that I might find of interest.
But there's a there's a caveat

490
00:24:35,473 --> 00:24:38,727
between that and all of a sudden,
just researching

491
00:24:38,727 --> 00:24:41,688
for each research site,
which I can really get down

492
00:24:41,688 --> 00:24:44,941
into the weeds into that
that's superfluous.

493
00:24:44,941 --> 00:24:47,986
This is unless there's a reason
for going about and do that,

494
00:24:47,986 --> 00:24:50,070
I would prefer the
and specifically

495
00:24:50,070 --> 00:24:55,743
this is for information like the
just in time information,

496
00:24:55,743 --> 00:24:58,413
not just in case information
and I get myself in the

497
00:24:58,413 --> 00:25:01,165
just in case all the time
and I think it's

498
00:25:01,165 --> 00:25:04,836
moving towards the high now it's
just in time information

499
00:25:04,836 --> 00:25:09,508
not just in case information.
What I'm noticing for myself is

500
00:25:09,508 --> 00:25:16,681
I have this habit where
if it's probably not that useful

501
00:25:16,681 --> 00:25:21,394
or it is bordering on
the superfluous, that's when I,

502
00:25:21,394 --> 00:25:23,395
I notice myself
getting distracted

503
00:25:23,395 --> 00:25:25,690
with other things.
So if I'm listening to a podcast

504
00:25:25,690 --> 00:25:29,486
while I'm having dinner,
I'll kind of have access to,

505
00:25:29,486 --> 00:25:31,988
you know, my plate of food,
my phone with me,

506
00:25:31,988 --> 00:25:35,075
and it's playing something
and then I'll stop picking it up

507
00:25:35,075 --> 00:25:38,036
and I'll start by going
onto different apps. And that's

508
00:25:38,036 --> 00:25:40,121
when I know, okay,
whatever I'm listening to

509
00:25:40,121 --> 00:25:43,375
is obviously not the most
important thing in the world,

510
00:25:43,375 --> 00:25:46,461
whereas something like
podcasting 2.0, I'm

511
00:25:46,461 --> 00:25:48,880
sure I might be
doing something else

512
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:53,343
whilst listening,
but my attention is on that

513
00:25:53,343 --> 00:26:00,016
almost 90, 95% of the time
of of pure and I will go back

514
00:26:00,016 --> 00:26:02,394
if I realised
oh I haven't really,

515
00:26:02,394 --> 00:26:04,229
I wasn't really listening
to the last 5 minutes

516
00:26:04,229 --> 00:26:06,605
because I was
writing a boost message in

517
00:26:06,605 --> 00:26:10,859
or I was doing something
kind of etc. outside of it.

518
00:26:10,859 --> 00:26:13,488
So that for me
is probably the big one when it's

519
00:26:13,488 --> 00:26:16,490
I notice
my attention drifting off and I

520
00:26:16,490 --> 00:26:20,077
start using other things,
that's, that's when it goes,

521
00:26:20,077 --> 00:26:22,998
oh okay, yeah. That's,
this is probably

522
00:26:22,998 --> 00:26:27,626
not as helpful or needed.
No, absolutely. Let's get into

523
00:26:27,626 --> 00:26:29,671
some Boostagrams
you bring it up as well again

524
00:26:29,671 --> 00:26:32,673
to the Boostagram lounge.
Then I come back and talk about

525
00:26:32,673 --> 00:26:37,886
some specific time perspective
when it comes to this powerful.

526
00:26:37,886 --> 00:26:40,640
Is this because it doesn't
you can't you can't just

527
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,058
brush brush with a wide stroke
and say that

528
00:26:43,058 --> 00:26:45,936
it's superfluous always
because it always comes down

529
00:26:45,936 --> 00:26:48,940
to some more specifics as well.
So I think let's get into

530
00:26:48,940 --> 00:26:54,194
some of the basic concepts.
Boostagrams! Do you have access

531
00:26:54,194 --> 00:26:58,240
to that, to the Discord or.
I do. I do indeed. All right.

532
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,536
I'll bring it up on my computer.
But it bloody my computer's

533
00:27:01,536 --> 00:27:02,828
been giving me so much trouble
at the moment.

534
00:27:02,828 --> 00:27:07,041
Affects the touchpad. Mm hmm.
For some unknown reason

535
00:27:07,041 --> 00:27:08,917
and only really began
a couple of days ago.

536
00:27:08,917 --> 00:27:11,086
It doesn't scroll
very well anymore,

537
00:27:11,086 --> 00:27:13,882
so I can move up and down easily,
and it'll just

538
00:27:13,882 --> 00:27:16,925
all of a sudden, randomly
start clicking on random things

539
00:27:16,925 --> 00:27:19,929
like all of its press down.
So I love when it just

540
00:27:19,929 --> 00:27:23,932
gives me all that crap.
But in any case, we're going to

541
00:27:23,932 --> 00:27:25,184
talk through here
on the boostagram Lounge,

542
00:27:25,184 --> 00:27:27,770
and this is people who have
been sending through Boostagrams

543
00:27:27,770 --> 00:27:29,814
supporting the podcast,
and we obviously like

544
00:27:29,814 --> 00:27:33,359
to share it out and talk about
those messages

545
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,321
that that come on through. Yeah.
The leaves should be at the 25th.

546
00:27:38,615 --> 00:27:42,117
So this is Dave Jones. Um, so
I've got Dave Jones

547
00:27:42,117 --> 00:27:43,744
here, the Weekly
Boots with Me and more Live

548
00:27:43,744 --> 00:27:47,207
Nation 12,112
sets it using Chrome again

549
00:27:47,207 --> 00:27:49,792
Dave always very much
appreciate Yeah.

550
00:27:49,792 --> 00:27:52,461
Now now I think we've
probably missed two

551
00:27:52,461 --> 00:27:55,632
or three of his It's
kind of weird because the way

552
00:27:55,632 --> 00:27:57,467
that he does it,
he sends it into the show.

553
00:27:57,467 --> 00:27:59,928
It's not into a
particular episode. So I think we

554
00:27:59,928 --> 00:28:02,262
might have missed
a couple of them

555
00:28:02,262 --> 00:28:05,683
over the previous weeks
because I see no reason why

556
00:28:05,683 --> 00:28:07,727
why he would have stopped.
All of a sudden stops

557
00:28:07,727 --> 00:28:11,522
for a couple of weeks.
Yep. Correct. Yeah. Um, again,

558
00:28:11,522 --> 00:28:13,982
I really do appreciate it.
Thank you very much.

559
00:28:13,982 --> 00:28:16,694
We've got one from Bitcoin
plus three, which is 100 sets

560
00:28:16,694 --> 00:28:20,949
and using fountain as as you get
fluid six times a year.

561
00:28:20,949 --> 00:28:22,366
I cannot comprehend
that as being a

562
00:28:22,366 --> 00:28:24,493
thing is not a symptom
of being underlying

563
00:28:24,493 --> 00:28:27,247
rundown keep well yeah and
we were talking about this

564
00:28:27,247 --> 00:28:29,915
in our sickness episode. Yeah.
This was wild because I didn't

565
00:28:29,915 --> 00:28:31,625
even remember
you saying that you got

566
00:28:31,625 --> 00:28:33,545
six times a year
and I went, Man, that guy,

567
00:28:33,545 --> 00:28:35,505
he must have got it wrong.
Beautiful thing.

568
00:28:35,505 --> 00:28:37,632
We have the transcript.
So I went into Fountain.

569
00:28:37,632 --> 00:28:39,968
I didn't even use the transcript
on my computer,

570
00:28:39,968 --> 00:28:42,386
so I wasn't at my computer
when in the top

571
00:28:42,386 --> 00:28:46,391
ten six for that episode
we said, say a couple of times

572
00:28:46,391 --> 00:28:48,017
because it was saying
six out of ten.

573
00:28:48,017 --> 00:28:51,270
And then, yeah, bam, sure enough
went to that bit and you did

574
00:28:51,270 --> 00:28:55,066
say you get six sick
six times a year.

575
00:28:55,066 --> 00:28:57,986
And I was like, Dang. Thank you.
I mean, I was sick.

576
00:28:57,986 --> 00:29:01,489
Yeah, sick last week. Even today
I start to feel a little bit off

577
00:29:01,489 --> 00:29:03,282
as well. But look,
what are you gonna get

578
00:29:03,282 --> 00:29:06,326
when you're definitely run? Now
I'll go and tell my child

579
00:29:06,326 --> 00:29:08,997
Bitcoin plus to be quiet.
Well, I'm trying to get

580
00:29:08,997 --> 00:29:11,082
some extra sleep better.
Thank you very much

581
00:29:11,082 --> 00:29:14,501
for that support and think he
trying to keep yo now we

582
00:29:14,501 --> 00:29:16,296
got a couple of big boy boos
coming through here.

583
00:29:16,296 --> 00:29:19,758
We got Adam Curry
boozing for less client meetings,

584
00:29:19,758 --> 00:29:24,596
50,000 SATs using converse.
Yeah. Boy, thank you very.

585
00:29:24,596 --> 00:29:26,263
Much Adam
Adam with the big curry.

586
00:29:26,263 --> 00:29:29,517
Thank you very much, Adam. That's
honestly one of the things that

587
00:29:29,517 --> 00:29:35,565
drew me into podcasting. 2.0.
It is the the idea where it is,

588
00:29:35,565 --> 00:29:39,486
it was all funded.
It's so weird now

589
00:29:39,486 --> 00:29:41,528
because I listen in
and I sometimes

590
00:29:41,528 --> 00:29:43,239
forget just how rare it is.
This thing

591
00:29:43,239 --> 00:29:45,157
they've created where it is
all just listener

592
00:29:45,157 --> 00:29:47,535
supported it all.
It is all just people

593
00:29:47,535 --> 00:29:49,369
working together
for the betterment

594
00:29:49,369 --> 00:29:51,705
of the industry.
And sure, there is a lot

595
00:29:51,705 --> 00:29:55,542
you know, they get$500 from
a lot of the hosts

596
00:29:55,542 --> 00:29:59,213
on a kind of regular basis
to pay for the the index

597
00:29:59,213 --> 00:30:02,258
they've created and whatnot.
And from some of the apps

598
00:30:02,258 --> 00:30:05,260
they'll send us from area,
we'll send in 100

599
00:30:05,260 --> 00:30:10,682
Sam or send in portions
Marco from overcast but it's it's

600
00:30:10,682 --> 00:30:14,144
just so rare to see something
like where it is no bullshit.

601
00:30:14,144 --> 00:30:18,441
There's no internal bickering
and meetings. And so it's just

602
00:30:18,441 --> 00:30:20,692
I mean that's
that's kind of why I I'm.

603
00:30:20,692 --> 00:30:23,278
So I. Love it. Yeah. Yeah.
And why

604
00:30:23,278 --> 00:30:25,865
I enjoy podcasting as well.
There's no, it's not a.

605
00:30:26,907 --> 00:30:29,827
No messing about, no middleman.
No, I do like that.

606
00:30:29,827 --> 00:30:33,038
And again Dave. Sorry, Adam.
Thank you very much. Yeah,

607
00:30:33,038 --> 00:30:35,625
we got another one from Dave.
They've come through with this

608
00:30:35,625 --> 00:30:38,211
specific individual bits,
which I like.

609
00:30:38,211 --> 00:30:40,128
Great episode with Chris.
Listen to it

610
00:30:40,128 --> 00:30:43,258
while hanging shelves
25,000 sets and using cast.

611
00:30:43,258 --> 00:30:46,845
Emetic Yeah. Legend
Thank you so much Dave

612
00:30:46,845 --> 00:30:52,724
while hanging shelves you must be
on our fix of fixing stuff up.

613
00:30:52,724 --> 00:30:54,644
Now and appreciate that
out of the

614
00:30:54,644 --> 00:30:58,230
out of the weekly cadence.
Yeah yeah Dave.

615
00:30:58,230 --> 00:31:00,567
Really appreciate it
And then I got one last one here

616
00:31:00,567 --> 00:31:02,527
from Macintosh.
Now this came in today.

617
00:31:02,527 --> 00:31:06,239
1144 haha.
Brewster without knowing it

618
00:31:06,239 --> 00:31:08,490
was going to boost anyway,
so he is the message.

619
00:31:08,490 --> 00:31:11,827
Good interview gents.
If you want me to start at Khan,

620
00:31:11,827 --> 00:31:13,704
I think you should have
multiple sites. You already have

621
00:31:13,704 --> 00:31:15,080
multiple topics
that you're regularly doing

622
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,460
your podcast. Just my thoughts.
I enjoyed Macintosh 210,000

623
00:31:19,460 --> 00:31:21,796
using Fountain. Thank you.
That is Macintosh

624
00:31:21,796 --> 00:31:24,257
from Generation Bitcoin.
So have you listened to that?

625
00:31:24,257 --> 00:31:27,885
Chris Fisher One adult.
Yes, I have listened to it.

626
00:31:27,885 --> 00:31:31,013
I had to listen to it
at pretty fast speed and skipping

627
00:31:31,013 --> 00:31:34,057
through a couple of
I watched on YouTube to skip it

628
00:31:34,057 --> 00:31:37,604
through a couple of times.
But I have, I have listened to

629
00:31:37,604 --> 00:31:40,522
the main parts of it. Yeah, cool.
So this is probably

630
00:31:40,522 --> 00:31:42,442
linking up too.
So thank you very much.

631
00:31:42,442 --> 00:31:46,487
Macintosh from that
from Generation Bitcoin, a show

632
00:31:46,487 --> 00:31:50,950
that I regularly tune into
the thing that I love about Chris

633
00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:55,329
and I really think is worthy of
of emulation of of

634
00:31:56,580 --> 00:32:00,751
investigating more and how we
can apply that to the models

635
00:32:00,751 --> 00:32:04,797
is this concept
he has of breaking up his shows

636
00:32:04,797 --> 00:32:07,090
pretty regularly
and that really the niche

637
00:32:07,090 --> 00:32:10,470
but they're all under the stupid
of broadcasting band

638
00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:14,766
and I'm really looking that
at that and I'm going, yeah,

639
00:32:14,766 --> 00:32:17,309
I think that that might be
the way forward.

640
00:32:17,309 --> 00:32:21,189
So for example, the app
that you were talking about and

641
00:32:21,189 --> 00:32:23,231
kind of going, Oh,
okay, maybe not an app,

642
00:32:23,231 --> 00:32:26,109
I'll put it on the website.
That's that's

643
00:32:26,109 --> 00:32:30,656
a really niche thing, you know,
a random blog on a, on a website.

644
00:32:30,656 --> 00:32:32,157
How are people
going to know about that

645
00:32:32,157 --> 00:32:35,411
other than you may be saying it?
This is where I do

646
00:32:35,411 --> 00:32:38,413
think, you know, we do talk about
fitness here,

647
00:32:38,413 --> 00:32:42,000
but it's not specific
and it might be whip it worth

648
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,253
whipping up another podcast
and just the audio.

649
00:32:45,253 --> 00:32:48,048
We can post the video
if we want to, or we can even

650
00:32:48,048 --> 00:32:51,009
just experiment with just audio
and being okay,

651
00:32:51,009 --> 00:32:54,596
what if we do just a models
fitness or just, you know,

652
00:32:54,596 --> 00:32:56,932
even be a bit
more strategic with,

653
00:32:56,932 --> 00:33:00,769
with the audio and then, well,
you know, we can discuss.

654
00:33:00,769 --> 00:33:03,064
You could do it on your own.
I could do something

655
00:33:03,064 --> 00:33:07,192
and we could just make
it real quick, dirty and easy

656
00:33:07,192 --> 00:33:10,195
without as much effort
as we put in here.

657
00:33:10,195 --> 00:33:11,530
And then that's
a great way of kind

658
00:33:11,530 --> 00:33:15,451
of promoting the training
blog. I yeah, look good. I do.

659
00:33:15,451 --> 00:33:18,954
I did. I did take away
that as well. And again,

660
00:33:18,954 --> 00:33:21,665
thank you, Macintosh.
But specifically, I was thinking,

661
00:33:21,665 --> 00:33:24,042
you know, again,
we the Mere Mortals brand

662
00:33:24,042 --> 00:33:26,546
sort of covers now
already three podcast right

663
00:33:26,546 --> 00:33:29,132
Valley Valley the book reviews
I mean

664
00:33:29,132 --> 00:33:30,758
if you wanna think about it
the Spanish book reviews

665
00:33:30,758 --> 00:33:34,220
when I was around
the podcast in generality

666
00:33:34,220 --> 00:33:37,265
and I did
it did get me thinking of,

667
00:33:37,265 --> 00:33:38,974
you know, do we spread it
a little bit wider

668
00:33:38,974 --> 00:33:42,144
in terms of this? To me
more or less the overarching,

669
00:33:42,144 --> 00:33:44,396
you know, media company,
if you want to look at it

670
00:33:44,396 --> 00:33:47,275
and not structure
with getting a little bit

671
00:33:47,275 --> 00:33:49,317
more niche specifics
because, you know,

672
00:33:49,317 --> 00:33:50,737
we might want to be
talking about fitness

673
00:33:50,737 --> 00:33:52,279
or we want to be talking
about specifically

674
00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:56,576
like philosophy, you know, that
would that be better

675
00:33:56,576 --> 00:33:59,494
and would also be worth
the extra amount of work

676
00:33:59,494 --> 00:34:02,330
that would go to set it up.
But yeah, it would. It would be

677
00:34:02,330 --> 00:34:04,166
it was an interesting point
because you're right,

678
00:34:04,166 --> 00:34:06,877
some of our more
niche conversations

679
00:34:06,877 --> 00:34:09,963
just get lost in me
mentioning it, you know,

680
00:34:09,963 --> 00:34:13,050
in a 32nd spot
in a one hour podcast.

681
00:34:13,050 --> 00:34:15,969
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think
that one in particular

682
00:34:15,969 --> 00:34:18,764
might be something that
we can talk about

683
00:34:18,764 --> 00:34:21,641
it more offline.
I was saying that in the

684
00:34:21,641 --> 00:34:23,978
month ago
as well, where it's just, yeah,

685
00:34:23,978 --> 00:34:27,606
I think that could be something
that would be if we don't

686
00:34:27,606 --> 00:34:30,525
focus on the video
aspect at all of it

687
00:34:30,525 --> 00:34:33,905
and it's just pure audio
that is something that

688
00:34:33,905 --> 00:34:40,327
I think would be doable,
quick and easy, and also kind of

689
00:34:40,327 --> 00:34:43,748
be that kind of experimental
branching out

690
00:34:43,748 --> 00:34:47,460
that we could try into
that is rather niche,

691
00:34:47,460 --> 00:34:50,505
but that we have a whole lot of
experience of, you know,

692
00:34:50,505 --> 00:34:52,297
the fitness stuff that I think
that's one thing

693
00:34:52,297 --> 00:34:55,384
we're kind of under
utilising to be honest, is that

694
00:34:55,384 --> 00:34:59,429
two decades plus training
that we have between us

695
00:34:59,429 --> 00:35:07,896
of really focussed
effort, of improving fitness,

696
00:35:07,896 --> 00:35:10,817
of improving your body,
of dealing with injuries.

697
00:35:10,817 --> 00:35:13,193
You know, there's a,
there's a whole lot of knowledge

698
00:35:13,193 --> 00:35:15,822
that we don't stack
and we don't use

699
00:35:15,822 --> 00:35:19,367
as much as I think we could.
So yeah, something to think about

700
00:35:19,367 --> 00:35:21,702
for the next little while.
In any case,

701
00:35:21,702 --> 00:35:24,831
appreciate Macintosh that
you got us definitely talking

702
00:35:24,831 --> 00:35:27,250
and thinking about things
and to everyone who supported

703
00:35:27,250 --> 00:35:30,043
through with those boots as well
thank you very much.

704
00:35:30,043 --> 00:35:34,465
Obviously people streaming
as well as I. Help men that's

705
00:35:34,465 --> 00:35:38,469
that's a worthy call out.
So I was just looking at the Alby

706
00:35:38,469 --> 00:35:41,264
and yeah, that was some
like big streams coming in

707
00:35:41,264 --> 00:35:45,518
as well as saw people sending in
like 60 sets a minute.

708
00:35:45,518 --> 00:35:49,730
It was like wow. That's.
That's Yeah. Yeah. Those though,

709
00:35:49,730 --> 00:35:53,317
some big ones coming in. Cool.
Okay so yeah in any case

710
00:35:53,317 --> 00:35:56,153
look always appreciate
it is these booster grams

711
00:35:56,153 --> 00:35:57,864
and that funding
that comes through from a value

712
00:35:57,864 --> 00:36:00,490
for valley model
that allows us to continue

713
00:36:00,490 --> 00:36:03,286
to create the podcast, put things
back into the podcast

714
00:36:03,286 --> 00:36:05,246
to improve it.
And you hopefully one day

715
00:36:05,246 --> 00:36:07,914
be the, the main thing. You know,
we're talking

716
00:36:07,914 --> 00:36:10,376
about the main thing
if you want us to, if you want to

717
00:36:10,376 --> 00:36:12,711
help us out in making sure
that this is the main thing

718
00:36:12,711 --> 00:36:15,380
or putting all of our efforts
and all of the

719
00:36:15,380 --> 00:36:17,717
the quality that we can,
plus all of this stuff

720
00:36:17,717 --> 00:36:20,135
that we're talking about it
more, it's bootcamps

721
00:36:20,135 --> 00:36:22,304
that really help us out
in doing that. And that's the

722
00:36:22,304 --> 00:36:24,681
predominant way
that we're helping and help

723
00:36:24,681 --> 00:36:26,766
in terms of supporting and.
Letting us know as well.

724
00:36:26,766 --> 00:36:29,644
You know,
if you would prefer a show

725
00:36:29,644 --> 00:36:33,565
where you enjoy listening in
but you don't want to hear about

726
00:36:33,565 --> 00:36:34,733
crypto stuff,
you don't want to hear

727
00:36:34,733 --> 00:36:38,487
about podcasting to point our of,
you know, let us know.

728
00:36:38,487 --> 00:36:43,951
And if you would listen and tune
into a fitness dedicated podcast

729
00:36:43,951 --> 00:36:46,913
from us about his standing,
about CrossFit,

730
00:36:46,913 --> 00:36:49,373
about bodybuilding,
about nutrition,

731
00:36:49,373 --> 00:36:51,708
about that sort of stuff,
you know? Well,

732
00:36:51,708 --> 00:36:54,253
it would be very much
appreciated to know that

733
00:36:54,253 --> 00:36:56,963
for sure. For sure.
Okay, let's get

734
00:36:56,963 --> 00:37:00,927
back to the main thing. Yeah.
And so I was just saying

735
00:37:00,927 --> 00:37:02,094
before we go
out into the beach gym

736
00:37:02,094 --> 00:37:07,224
lounge around and the
the superfluous ness of things

737
00:37:07,224 --> 00:37:09,726
also with the caveat
around the time structure,

738
00:37:09,726 --> 00:37:12,396
time domain.
What I meant by that is

739
00:37:12,396 --> 00:37:16,943
there are often there's
that you can have main things

740
00:37:16,943 --> 00:37:20,445
but often case
you have a main thing

741
00:37:20,445 --> 00:37:23,532
during a particular time domain.
So give you an example of

742
00:37:23,532 --> 00:37:27,827
personal life. So it might be
that I have a main thing

743
00:37:27,827 --> 00:37:30,373
that I want to be fit
and healthy, or that

744
00:37:30,373 --> 00:37:31,666
I want to make sure I'm
getting the work done

745
00:37:31,666 --> 00:37:34,376
the right time. All I want to be
making sure that we're

746
00:37:34,376 --> 00:37:37,003
communicating around the podcast
and having the right nights

747
00:37:37,003 --> 00:37:39,632
and all that and all those things
have been main things.

748
00:37:39,632 --> 00:37:43,635
But if I'm changing
a baby's nappy and shit on my

749
00:37:43,635 --> 00:37:47,472
hands right there is not the time
that it is unnecessary

750
00:37:47,472 --> 00:37:49,891
to be trying to send Karen
an audio message

751
00:37:49,891 --> 00:37:52,894
around the podcast tonight
or thinking about

752
00:37:52,894 --> 00:37:55,273
a myriad of other things,
trying to find out other things.

753
00:37:55,273 --> 00:37:58,192
Now the main thing at that time
is you're changing

754
00:37:58,192 --> 00:37:59,652
a baby's nappy.
That's what you're doing.

755
00:37:59,652 --> 00:38:01,653
That takes a little bit
of effort. A lot,

756
00:38:01,653 --> 00:38:03,780
a whole lot of mentality,
especially if you're

757
00:38:03,780 --> 00:38:07,284
running on no sleep. And so
it's also crucial

758
00:38:07,284 --> 00:38:08,952
to know that you can
that can be things

759
00:38:08,952 --> 00:38:12,164
that are superfluous
at particular times of the day,

760
00:38:12,164 --> 00:38:14,250
at particular times of, you know,
how you carry

761
00:38:14,250 --> 00:38:19,297
on your day to day living.
So yeah, there's an in this as a

762
00:38:19,297 --> 00:38:21,215
I was going to ask you
whether you even

763
00:38:21,215 --> 00:38:24,885
really think about this
or put any structures and methods

764
00:38:24,885 --> 00:38:28,514
or all, you know,
techniques in place to avoid

765
00:38:28,514 --> 00:38:32,976
the superfluous ness of life
in quite targeted ways.

766
00:38:32,976 --> 00:38:36,105
To give you an example for me,
but I don't

767
00:38:36,105 --> 00:38:38,231
almost have to do this,
but with training,

768
00:38:38,231 --> 00:38:42,610
I really don't really.
I'll probably say

769
00:38:42,610 --> 00:38:45,614
it's very rare for me
to be using the phone for my

770
00:38:45,614 --> 00:38:48,242
messaging or
checking social media

771
00:38:48,242 --> 00:38:50,952
perspective. I'm usually
just listening to a music

772
00:38:50,952 --> 00:38:54,456
or a podcast, and training
is very, very

773
00:38:54,456 --> 00:38:58,168
hard for me to find,
to go down the path of doing

774
00:38:58,168 --> 00:39:00,628
unnecessary things,
which it takes

775
00:39:00,628 --> 00:39:02,255
away from training.
But just cause I've been doing it

776
00:39:02,255 --> 00:39:04,632
for so long
in other areas of life

777
00:39:04,632 --> 00:39:05,800
that especially
when I'm hanging out

778
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,347
with friends, being with family,
I set up my phone

779
00:39:09,347 --> 00:39:12,307
on specific mode
so that I'm not getting any

780
00:39:12,307 --> 00:39:14,768
notifications sites.
It's the equivalent of your

781
00:39:14,768 --> 00:39:18,646
Do not disturb and I do that
in different type of scenario,

782
00:39:18,646 --> 00:39:20,983
so I'm much more focussed as now
things are going to

783
00:39:20,983 --> 00:39:24,945
take me away or
entice me to be going down, doing

784
00:39:24,945 --> 00:39:28,615
superfluous things.
But even when it comes to

785
00:39:28,615 --> 00:39:33,996
aspects of reading or, cooking
or even talking with my partner,

786
00:39:33,996 --> 00:39:35,581
there are other
superfluous things

787
00:39:35,581 --> 00:39:39,876
where I'll either pull my phone
to a different area or if I know

788
00:39:39,876 --> 00:39:42,838
there's a task to get done.
So I specifically

789
00:39:42,838 --> 00:39:45,673
for this podcast this morning,
I had to make some notes

790
00:39:45,673 --> 00:39:47,927
and I had a couple
of other things going around

791
00:39:47,927 --> 00:39:49,887
now, and I,
you know, it's unnecessary

792
00:39:49,887 --> 00:39:52,306
right now in to do this
particular task. For me

793
00:39:52,306 --> 00:39:55,893
to be listening to a song
or putting this video

794
00:39:55,893 --> 00:39:57,311
that was trying to watch
that same time,

795
00:39:57,311 --> 00:39:59,396
I was trying to watch it
as I was doing that other good.

796
00:39:59,396 --> 00:40:01,898
Now, obviously that's not
an important thing.

797
00:40:01,898 --> 00:40:04,110
What I'm just trying to
get this done and I was able to

798
00:40:04,110 --> 00:40:06,195
get the nights done
quite quickly.

799
00:40:06,195 --> 00:40:07,905
But if I was trying to,
you know, sometimes

800
00:40:07,905 --> 00:40:10,157
call it multitask
or have all these

801
00:40:10,157 --> 00:40:12,784
other unnecessary things
while it feels like

802
00:40:12,784 --> 00:40:15,204
you're getting more done,
you know, you're not really.

803
00:40:15,204 --> 00:40:16,914
And so there's
there's a lot to be said

804
00:40:16,914 --> 00:40:20,583
about those specific time domains
when to help, who doesn't.

805
00:40:20,583 --> 00:40:22,753
But do you have any methods
or techniques

806
00:40:22,753 --> 00:40:25,713
beyond the do not disturb
when you find that helps,

807
00:40:25,713 --> 00:40:28,300
you try to avoid maybe other
superfluous things

808
00:40:28,300 --> 00:40:31,554
and specific time to date?
I've actually noticed

809
00:40:31,554 --> 00:40:34,597
when you're saying that
I think that that is true

810
00:40:34,597 --> 00:40:38,518
and that there is certain
certain aspects

811
00:40:38,518 --> 00:40:41,438
which will get you.
So for example, it's only ever

812
00:40:41,438 --> 00:40:44,108
when I'm on my own, when I'm out
with my family,

813
00:40:44,108 --> 00:40:46,652
when I'm out with friends,
if I'm going to a meet up,

814
00:40:47,652 --> 00:40:51,072
if I'm training you know,
even with other people,

815
00:40:51,072 --> 00:40:55,494
it's it's very much
I don't get lost in the

816
00:40:55,494 --> 00:40:57,079
unnecessary things.
So it's just something

817
00:40:57,079 --> 00:40:59,623
I think about those times
because I'm actually interacting

818
00:40:59,623 --> 00:41:02,918
with others. And I think that
that's kind of

819
00:41:02,918 --> 00:41:05,588
basically always a benefit
for me. The more I spend

820
00:41:05,588 --> 00:41:08,798
time with other people is
is usually a good thing.

821
00:41:08,798 --> 00:41:11,092
Just a little caveat here
was when I got sick

822
00:41:11,092 --> 00:41:15,556
this last week, I was kind of
if I was going to see my normal

823
00:41:15,556 --> 00:41:17,974
handstand friends on Sunday
for our normal kind of

824
00:41:17,974 --> 00:41:20,853
session together because I
didn't want to get them sick,

825
00:41:20,853 --> 00:41:23,981
but I felt like I wasn't
losing stuff anymore.

826
00:41:23,981 --> 00:41:26,858
So I went with them men.
I was on fire that day

827
00:41:26,858 --> 00:41:29,612
from the very get go.
It just been a full week

828
00:41:29,612 --> 00:41:32,155
without basically
any contact with humans.

829
00:41:32,155 --> 00:41:34,199
And I was
I was like joking around.

830
00:41:34,199 --> 00:41:38,204
I was playing round being silly.
And that was, you know,

831
00:41:38,204 --> 00:41:40,664
I was in the moment
then that was really

832
00:41:40,664 --> 00:41:43,666
connected with people. So that's
that's always

833
00:41:43,666 --> 00:41:49,215
a good thing for me.
I think it's when I it's a task

834
00:41:49,215 --> 00:41:53,594
where it's kind of non-critical
or it's non time domain.

835
00:41:53,594 --> 00:41:58,599
So when I go to bed,
for example, and reading,

836
00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:00,309
you know,
typically read for anywhere

837
00:42:00,309 --> 00:42:05,146
from half an hour to an hour
and it's just very much at

838
00:42:05,146 --> 00:42:08,525
there's a cap, there's a limit of
I've got sleep to come up.

839
00:42:08,525 --> 00:42:11,862
So if I spend
20 minutes on my phone,

840
00:42:11,862 --> 00:42:14,739
that's 20 minutes
I can't spend reading.

841
00:42:14,739 --> 00:42:18,369
So those ones is kind of
getting into procrastination

842
00:42:18,369 --> 00:42:20,286
a little bit.
Where I notice myself

843
00:42:20,286 --> 00:42:23,623
doing Superfluous
Things is typically

844
00:42:23,623 --> 00:42:29,045
creating clips, for example, of
I've got three or four videos

845
00:42:29,045 --> 00:42:32,340
where I need to create clips from
and it's taken a bit more time.

846
00:42:32,340 --> 00:42:33,967
So I'm starting to put
captions on it.

847
00:42:33,967 --> 00:42:36,719
I'm trying to experiment
with some different things

848
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:41,349
and with them I'm creating them
for this kind of future scenario.

849
00:42:41,349 --> 00:42:42,643
I don't I don't need them
right now.

850
00:42:42,643 --> 00:42:45,271
I've already got enough
clips for the next week

851
00:42:45,271 --> 00:42:47,773
and so that's
when I'll notice myself.

852
00:42:47,773 --> 00:42:49,692
I'll click on something,
I think I'll be doing something

853
00:42:49,692 --> 00:42:53,653
and then next thing I know,
I've got an additional page open

854
00:42:53,653 --> 00:42:58,617
or I'm responding to this email
or I'm dealing with what's what's

855
00:42:58,617 --> 00:43:01,661
I've got here. I just got
an email from the government

856
00:43:01,661 --> 00:43:05,416
about how because I've turned 31,
that's this ridiculous thing

857
00:43:05,416 --> 00:43:08,876
related to lifetime
health cover and loading.

858
00:43:08,876 --> 00:43:13,215
Have you heard of this before?
I have not. What? Yeah. Yeah.

859
00:43:13,215 --> 00:43:15,967
I only heard about this a
about half a year ago

860
00:43:15,967 --> 00:43:17,385
and I thought
the girl they told me

861
00:43:17,385 --> 00:43:19,054
was full of shit.
And then I just get

862
00:43:19,054 --> 00:43:21,431
this today and. Yeah, it's.
It's basically

863
00:43:21,431 --> 00:43:24,726
like you have to pay
for more more if you get lifetime

864
00:43:24,726 --> 00:43:28,313
health cover in the future.
If you don't get it

865
00:43:28,313 --> 00:43:32,108
soon in the July
after your 31st birthday.

866
00:43:32,108 --> 00:43:35,070
Otherwise you have to pay more
or something

867
00:43:35,070 --> 00:43:37,572
like I don't know, it's
but you know, this is the kind of

868
00:43:37,572 --> 00:43:40,326
just distracting thing where it's
something I need to deal with.

869
00:43:40,326 --> 00:43:42,119
I don't need to deal
with it right now,

870
00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:44,663
but when I'm trading clips,
this is when this suit

871
00:43:44,663 --> 00:43:47,291
will start intruding.
And it's like, Gosh, maybe

872
00:43:47,291 --> 00:43:49,835
I should Google that,
maybe I should figure that out.

873
00:43:49,835 --> 00:43:53,130
So yeah, typically for me,
it's it's kind of

874
00:43:53,130 --> 00:43:56,007
that procrastination
type thing where it's.

875
00:43:56,007 --> 00:43:58,594
It's they kind of go
hand-in-hand, right? It kind of

876
00:43:58,594 --> 00:44:00,304
goes hand-in-hand
because sometimes

877
00:44:00,304 --> 00:44:03,056
you will procrastinate
by doing something else.

878
00:44:03,056 --> 00:44:04,682
And that's something else
is superfluous

879
00:44:04,682 --> 00:44:07,061
to the task at hand.
That was supposed

880
00:44:07,061 --> 00:44:09,271
to be the main thing.
Yeah, but thankfully for me

881
00:44:09,271 --> 00:44:13,275
it's not on critical stuff.
So if I've got a podcast

882
00:44:13,275 --> 00:44:17,112
that needs editing and producing
and it's going out the next day,

883
00:44:17,112 --> 00:44:20,615
the Chris Fisher
one, for example, I added that

884
00:44:20,615 --> 00:44:23,827
basically all on the Monday
where it got released.

885
00:44:23,827 --> 00:44:26,704
I wasn't digging around, man.
I was, I was 100%

886
00:44:27,706 --> 00:44:30,416
editing, creating this,
creating the chapter

887
00:44:30,416 --> 00:44:34,755
mark is getting chapter images,
doing all of that. And I

888
00:44:34,755 --> 00:44:36,840
got it released on time
and it was because

889
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,342
I wasn't distracted.
But yeah, it's,

890
00:44:39,342 --> 00:44:42,179
it's just when I have
those kind of

891
00:44:42,179 --> 00:44:44,139
it needs to be done,
but it doesn't

892
00:44:44,139 --> 00:44:47,893
need to be done right now. That's
when maybe some superfluous stuff

893
00:44:47,893 --> 00:44:50,853
will start to creep in. Yeah,
and I think I'll say

894
00:44:50,853 --> 00:44:54,233
on that point, it's
when you put the,

895
00:44:54,233 --> 00:44:55,775
when it's time sensitive,
when it's time

896
00:44:55,775 --> 00:44:59,320
pressure, you'll often
find yourself doing a task

897
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,407
almost much more directly
and without the

898
00:45:02,407 --> 00:45:05,494
superfluous things, because you
don't have the time to have that

899
00:45:05,494 --> 00:45:08,996
that, that flex, to have the void
kind of with you sleeping

900
00:45:08,996 --> 00:45:12,000
and have you bookending
it with sleep. Well, if you

901
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,835
can do half an hour,
you've only got such

902
00:45:13,835 --> 00:45:15,670
a limited amount of time.
And if you start doing

903
00:45:15,670 --> 00:45:18,757
superfluous things, that's it.
Like it's, you know,

904
00:45:18,757 --> 00:45:20,509
not generally going to go, okay,
well I'll just out

905
00:45:20,509 --> 00:45:23,052
till two in the morning. Yeah.
Ready to make up for it. Yeah.

906
00:45:23,052 --> 00:45:26,181
So I'm going to have to go.
One last question for you

907
00:45:26,181 --> 00:45:28,141
and it's a little bit of two
to the right here,

908
00:45:28,141 --> 00:45:30,101
not a degree turn on this
particular question,

909
00:45:30,101 --> 00:45:33,188
but I thought it'd be interesting
because often so I was doing

910
00:45:33,188 --> 00:45:34,898
a bit of googling
with Superfluous. That's right.

911
00:45:34,898 --> 00:45:37,860
And where it sort of ended up
and even what is tragic to say,

912
00:45:37,860 --> 00:45:40,987
what are some of the articles say
that help solve the came up to

913
00:45:40,987 --> 00:45:44,824
it is superfluous
this it's about minimalism

914
00:45:44,824 --> 00:45:49,579
it's about being a minimalist
how much do you think at least it

915
00:45:49,579 --> 00:45:52,958
it leads you know
is is alive down

916
00:45:52,958 --> 00:45:56,378
the path of you know,
avoiding superfluous ness. Is it

917
00:45:56,378 --> 00:45:59,505
ultimately a
minimalist life jacket?

918
00:45:59,505 --> 00:46:02,050
I was looking at this.
Let's look at this

919
00:46:02,050 --> 00:46:03,927
through the lens of speech.
We were kind of hinting

920
00:46:03,927 --> 00:46:07,222
about this before. So
another thing of creating

921
00:46:07,222 --> 00:46:10,641
the clips has made me
realise is shown in the light,

922
00:46:10,641 --> 00:46:14,730
pure daylight. Wow, there's a lot
of unnecessary speech

923
00:46:14,730 --> 00:46:17,356
and there's a lot of tangents,
and not even just

924
00:46:17,356 --> 00:46:20,818
the arms and nerves and whatnot,
but straight up sentences

925
00:46:20,818 --> 00:46:24,447
where you're trying to
tell a point and you deviate

926
00:46:24,447 --> 00:46:27,159
to say this extra
little additional thing,

927
00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:30,454
which doesn't matter
and it ruins the clip

928
00:46:30,454 --> 00:46:33,414
that I'm trying to create.
Fuck you car and fuck up,

929
00:46:33,414 --> 00:46:35,833
fuck you on,
you just ruin this shit.

930
00:46:35,833 --> 00:46:38,920
And now I have to either
do an extra edit and cut

931
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,965
and which I don't like doing, or
I just scrapped up it entirely.

932
00:46:42,965 --> 00:46:46,887
So there is a lot of this
kind of waffle.

933
00:46:46,887 --> 00:46:50,139
What I think though, is
it's not necessarily

934
00:46:50,139 --> 00:46:53,476
unnecessary either. So
we're going to see

935
00:46:53,476 --> 00:46:56,563
this coming up with
with AI and podcasts

936
00:46:56,563 --> 00:47:01,025
and there's already people
who are putting in a

937
00:47:01,275 --> 00:47:04,530
speech recognition software.
You'll notice this,

938
00:47:04,530 --> 00:47:06,489
particularly with the ads.
That's what's

939
00:47:06,489 --> 00:47:08,074
kind of the big thing
in the podcasting

940
00:47:08,074 --> 00:47:12,161
industry at the moment.
Oh, you can get host raids

941
00:47:12,161 --> 00:47:15,373
without the host having to do
the actual read themselves.

942
00:47:15,373 --> 00:47:17,876
We've got all the voice
generation and whatnot.

943
00:47:17,876 --> 00:47:20,378
This is Spotify
doing this in particular.

944
00:47:20,378 --> 00:47:24,632
And also we'll just get that
and it can be targeted

945
00:47:24,632 --> 00:47:26,760
because Spotify
has all this data. They know that

946
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,719
my name's Kyran.
When I'm using the app,

947
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,764
so it could be like,
Hey, kyren, blah, blah,

948
00:47:30,764 --> 00:47:33,724
blah, blah, blah, blah
and really niche targeting.

949
00:47:33,724 --> 00:47:37,813
And what. Point in.
What I think there was I podcasts

950
00:47:37,813 --> 00:47:41,315
as a whole, they'll fall flat
because they don't have

951
00:47:41,315 --> 00:47:44,235
this extra waffle.
They don't have

952
00:47:44,235 --> 00:47:48,824
the one making a funny joke
about Kyran being small

953
00:47:48,824 --> 00:47:53,494
or sucking at that life
and listening. They won't have

954
00:47:53,494 --> 00:47:56,748
Call McCormack from America
Plus man, when he reads

955
00:47:56,748 --> 00:47:59,751
out his booze, he I've never
seen someone get so hyped

956
00:47:59,751 --> 00:48:02,920
for a hundred sets.
He goes fucking wild.

957
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,382
And there's just something where
I think

958
00:48:05,382 --> 00:48:08,927
this extra additional stuff
is kind of what drags you in,

959
00:48:08,927 --> 00:48:12,097
especially if it's
a long form thing. And so this is

960
00:48:12,097 --> 00:48:16,059
where I go now. You know,
these are extra things.

961
00:48:16,059 --> 00:48:19,521
Sure, it's
nice to get rid of the gas

962
00:48:19,521 --> 00:48:21,940
that I say from the Chris
Fischer interview

963
00:48:21,940 --> 00:48:25,902
or the arms and others
or those little deviations.

964
00:48:25,902 --> 00:48:31,407
But I think minimalism isn't
the best way of putting it.

965
00:48:31,407 --> 00:48:33,784
I think that helps
certainly for certain

966
00:48:33,784 --> 00:48:37,079
certain cases, but
I'm not sure I'm

967
00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:39,291
drawn to minimalism
because it gets rid of

968
00:48:39,291 --> 00:48:45,130
superfluous things in my life.
Maybe a bit. I mean, certainly

969
00:48:45,130 --> 00:48:48,425
for physical things,
I think that's that's correct.

970
00:48:48,425 --> 00:48:53,304
But for online digestion
of content and stuff,

971
00:48:53,304 --> 00:48:56,974
I'm, I, I'm similar to you.
I listen to a lot of things

972
00:48:56,974 --> 00:49:02,021
and I could be way more ruthless
with my decisions of what

973
00:49:02,021 --> 00:49:07,277
to listen to or not. But I think
there's some it's okay

974
00:49:07,277 --> 00:49:10,780
to, to have the extra
the additional. Yeah.

975
00:49:10,780 --> 00:49:14,409
Look at a similar answer
because I kind of disagreed

976
00:49:14,409 --> 00:49:19,039
with the overall views that yes,
it always leads to minimalism,

977
00:49:19,039 --> 00:49:20,958
not as a whole. Like I can
definitely see it

978
00:49:20,958 --> 00:49:24,795
from a assets or what you
physically sort of store.

979
00:49:25,963 --> 00:49:29,840
But there is, I think when you're
talking about it with the audio

980
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,009
is when you're
listening to someone,

981
00:49:31,009 --> 00:49:33,427
there is almost
a fingerprint like the

982
00:49:33,427 --> 00:49:36,097
the idiosyncrasies
of what makes a human a human.

983
00:49:36,097 --> 00:49:41,353
And when you try to again,
I've tried to do this with, Hey,

984
00:49:41,353 --> 00:49:43,438
how Tim Ferriss asked
this particular question,

985
00:49:43,438 --> 00:49:45,190
I'll show you
how Joe Rogan would do this

986
00:49:45,190 --> 00:49:50,027
or how Jordan Peterson say this
and you read it from the air

987
00:49:50,027 --> 00:49:54,699
and you can kind of see
what they mean, but it's

988
00:49:54,699 --> 00:49:56,617
kind of like the equivalent of
when you read a Jordan

989
00:49:56,617 --> 00:50:00,579
Peterson book where, hey,
it was like written by him.

990
00:50:00,579 --> 00:50:03,000
But you can tell it's
just a little different to

991
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:07,336
when how he actually
articulates himself in a lecture,

992
00:50:07,336 --> 00:50:10,757
in a audio format. We know he's
actually talking.

993
00:50:10,757 --> 00:50:12,550
It's slightly different.
And you can see that

994
00:50:12,550 --> 00:50:15,262
there's information missing
and that information

995
00:50:15,262 --> 00:50:18,556
is the while. It could be
the likes in the arms,

996
00:50:18,556 --> 00:50:22,978
it's in the waffling, it's in
it's in between the main points

997
00:50:22,978 --> 00:50:26,273
that it makes all the difference
for the whole. So, you know,

998
00:50:26,273 --> 00:50:27,815
if I was to
listen to an interview,

999
00:50:27,815 --> 00:50:30,568
let's just say we've
all rows actually

1000
00:50:30,568 --> 00:50:34,530
talking to whoever, pick whoever.
And it was very much

1001
00:50:34,530 --> 00:50:37,199
just bang, bang, bang in
terms of answers like, Hey,

1002
00:50:37,199 --> 00:50:39,744
what did you do? What did you do
to get ready for the swim?

1003
00:50:39,744 --> 00:50:44,498
I did this. I thought I did this.
I slept this way. Eddie. Yes.

1004
00:50:44,498 --> 00:50:46,751
It's, you know,
getting to the outcome

1005
00:50:46,751 --> 00:50:50,713
that I want. And it's avoiding
everything that is

1006
00:50:50,713 --> 00:50:53,257
could potentially
technically be said as being

1007
00:50:53,257 --> 00:50:57,804
unnecessary, superfluous.
But I enjoy if he's able to

1008
00:50:57,804 --> 00:51:00,974
articulate that. Oh,
this is where it started.

1009
00:51:00,974 --> 00:51:03,768
This is where it kind of
went through. This was the end.

1010
00:51:03,768 --> 00:51:06,646
Because even if the outcome
of my question was, hey,

1011
00:51:06,646 --> 00:51:08,356
I want to tell you,
I want you to tell me

1012
00:51:08,356 --> 00:51:11,068
what the end outcome was,
there's kind of

1013
00:51:11,068 --> 00:51:14,070
some beneficial stuff to knowing
where the journey was or the

1014
00:51:14,070 --> 00:51:16,739
waffling in between there.
So between the main things,

1015
00:51:16,739 --> 00:51:20,159
which adds a whole layer to it,
it's similar

1016
00:51:20,159 --> 00:51:25,081
to also language learning.
You can you can technically say

1017
00:51:25,081 --> 00:51:26,625
there's a lot
of superfluous learning

1018
00:51:26,625 --> 00:51:29,920
that I'm even doing from a French
learning perspective, like why

1019
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,005
do you need to know
these extra ways of saying,

1020
00:51:33,005 --> 00:51:34,548
you know,
different bakery produce

1021
00:51:34,548 --> 00:51:36,967
right now? Like it's
probably superfluous

1022
00:51:36,967 --> 00:51:40,179
in comparison to other things.
It could be learning.

1023
00:51:40,179 --> 00:51:44,141
And yes, that's true,
but I have an interest in that.

1024
00:51:44,141 --> 00:51:46,728
And if I'm going to go to France
one day or talk to someone,

1025
00:51:46,728 --> 00:51:49,231
I feel like that's where I'll be
enjoying myself.

1026
00:51:49,231 --> 00:51:52,567
I'll find more joy.
I would rather do that waffling

1027
00:51:52,567 --> 00:51:55,987
than waffling about learning.
You know, how does a president

1028
00:51:55,987 --> 00:51:59,657
or queen or something else run?
And so some of my look at that

1029
00:51:59,657 --> 00:52:03,036
and I feel superfluous way,
but I go now, actually,

1030
00:52:03,036 --> 00:52:05,079
I really enjoy
having that waffle in there

1031
00:52:05,079 --> 00:52:08,375
in some aspects. So here's
a good example of related

1032
00:52:08,375 --> 00:52:11,585
to language learning.
When you go to another place,

1033
00:52:11,585 --> 00:52:16,757
the connection that you can feel
from as an outsider,

1034
00:52:16,757 --> 00:52:19,094
that you will get
a reaction from people.

1035
00:52:19,094 --> 00:52:22,304
You can have immaculate German.
I could I could get really,

1036
00:52:22,304 --> 00:52:24,431
really nice German.
I could say things

1037
00:52:24,431 --> 00:52:27,643
the correct way.
I could avoid bad grammar.

1038
00:52:27,643 --> 00:52:29,563
I could do all of these
sorts of things.

1039
00:52:29,563 --> 00:52:34,733
I could not learn the slang
and whatnot. Yet it is the times

1040
00:52:34,733 --> 00:52:38,822
when you learn this
randomness phrase which has,

1041
00:52:39,822 --> 00:52:42,659
you know, you can even use
it in the wrong way.

1042
00:52:42,659 --> 00:52:44,827
My friend Lucas
is learning English.

1043
00:52:44,827 --> 00:52:48,789
It's from Brazil. He's doing this
all the time. He he's

1044
00:52:48,789 --> 00:52:50,876
his favourite one at the moment
is I'm not here

1045
00:52:50,876 --> 00:52:53,378
to fuck Spider's mate
and he's he's using it

1046
00:52:53,378 --> 00:52:57,340
in the wrong context,
but it doesn't matter because

1047
00:52:57,340 --> 00:53:00,217
it's such a nice thing
for him to say. It's like,

1048
00:53:00,217 --> 00:53:02,052
oh man, that's funny
because like,

1049
00:53:02,052 --> 00:53:04,472
you're really trying.
I appreciate your effort.

1050
00:53:04,472 --> 00:53:07,016
And that's the thing.
When when someone comes here

1051
00:53:07,016 --> 00:53:09,518
and they're from India
and they say gidday

1052
00:53:09,518 --> 00:53:12,606
or fair dinkum, it's that's a
superfluous thing.

1053
00:53:12,606 --> 00:53:15,275
They don't need to learn
that there's, there's, you know,

1054
00:53:15,275 --> 00:53:18,570
and there's five different ways
of saying g'day mate,

1055
00:53:18,570 --> 00:53:22,824
what does, what does Nama.
Yeah. Na na. Yeah.

1056
00:53:22,824 --> 00:53:25,076
There's all these different ways
you can say of saying

1057
00:53:25,076 --> 00:53:28,871
the same thing but it's,
it might seem

1058
00:53:28,871 --> 00:53:31,541
superfluous as well. There's, I,
this is like the trap

1059
00:53:31,541 --> 00:53:34,710
like you're mentioning,
it's those little gaps in between

1060
00:53:34,710 --> 00:53:38,297
which actually can lead
to these kind of big outcomes,

1061
00:53:38,297 --> 00:53:42,760
even though it's really hard
to put down. Oh yeah, it's

1062
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,472
because he said good day that I,
I'm willing to help him more

1063
00:53:46,472 --> 00:53:49,934
and not be him
because he, you know,

1064
00:53:49,934 --> 00:53:54,356
bumped into my car or I'm
I'm willing to smile at him,

1065
00:53:54,356 --> 00:53:56,775
start up a conversation
with her or him

1066
00:53:56,775 --> 00:53:59,527
because they said this
this random thing

1067
00:53:59,527 --> 00:54:04,032
in, you know, something
that was unnecessary. Mm Yeah.

1068
00:54:04,032 --> 00:54:06,367
Look in summary for me
from the Superfluous

1069
00:54:06,367 --> 00:54:09,621
in this piece, again,
this happens all the time.

1070
00:54:09,621 --> 00:54:11,498
I'm sure this will happen
in every single conversation

1071
00:54:11,498 --> 00:54:13,666
I reckon we ever have
or I ever have with anybody

1072
00:54:13,666 --> 00:54:18,380
about any topic. It's a dichotomy
and most often not. Yes, we're

1073
00:54:18,380 --> 00:54:20,923
probably doing
a lot of superfluous things

1074
00:54:20,923 --> 00:54:23,050
that we probably should
try to get away with.

1075
00:54:23,050 --> 00:54:25,344
We talked about a few of them
already on the podcast,

1076
00:54:25,344 --> 00:54:27,554
the beginning there,
but don't forget that

1077
00:54:27,554 --> 00:54:30,224
there's going to be
there's to be things that

1078
00:54:30,224 --> 00:54:33,728
you need to retain the why,
why am I? It feels like

1079
00:54:33,728 --> 00:54:35,981
it's superfluous
also has a lot of benefit

1080
00:54:35,981 --> 00:54:40,902
to being there because it is
also is the pizzazz of life, the

1081
00:54:40,902 --> 00:54:44,905
the extra details, which is
technically unnecessary,

1082
00:54:44,905 --> 00:54:47,617
but that makes it all worth
it, is what makes the inbetween

1083
00:54:47,617 --> 00:54:50,996
the main things all worth it.
But don't confuse up with

1084
00:54:50,996 --> 00:54:52,956
that saying everything is going
to be like that.

1085
00:54:52,956 --> 00:54:55,250
No, that's all the case.
There's times in place

1086
00:54:55,250 --> 00:54:59,670
to not procrastinate or avoid
you know, those items,

1087
00:54:59,670 --> 00:55:01,715
but at all times
it's totally fine. In fact,

1088
00:55:01,715 --> 00:55:05,092
lean into those areas
where you might find

1089
00:55:05,092 --> 00:55:09,139
the beauty in the, you know,
the small details that might be

1090
00:55:09,139 --> 00:55:11,891
from a language learning
or something else use.

1091
00:55:11,891 --> 00:55:15,394
Case in point for me. You know,
is it necessary

1092
00:55:15,394 --> 00:55:17,605
to stare at your baby
from one centimetre away

1093
00:55:17,605 --> 00:55:19,940
for 15 minutes time
when you could go on,

1094
00:55:19,940 --> 00:55:22,152
look a picture of it, right?
So you can look at this from an

1095
00:55:22,152 --> 00:55:24,403
efficiency perspective.
You can go look at it.

1096
00:55:24,403 --> 00:55:26,864
Look at the baby for 10 seconds.
That's enough. It's not a change

1097
00:55:27,990 --> 00:55:29,534
that's superfluous.
But I'll tell you

1098
00:55:29,534 --> 00:55:31,369
what, people who are, you know,
new parents,

1099
00:55:31,369 --> 00:55:33,079
you'll you'll know this.
And for people

1100
00:55:33,079 --> 00:55:36,373
who are planning to do
so, you'll see this is

1101
00:55:36,373 --> 00:55:39,626
you'll spend frickin so much time
just looking at your baby

1102
00:55:39,626 --> 00:55:42,880
close up one exquisite,
wanting to know what's going on.

1103
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,592
Even if they're not moving, do.
It's superfluous. But again,

1104
00:55:46,592 --> 00:55:48,219
it's the beauty
in the small details

1105
00:55:48,219 --> 00:55:50,054
that you know, L.A.
down the track

1106
00:55:50,054 --> 00:55:52,681
or even immediately,
you kind of refer to any guy.

1107
00:55:52,681 --> 00:55:54,391
It's worth it's
absolutely worth it,

1108
00:55:54,391 --> 00:55:58,688
even if it is superfluous
in a technical sense. Nice. Nice.

1109
00:55:58,688 --> 00:56:00,731
I like that. For me,
I was going to say in

1110
00:56:00,731 --> 00:56:03,485
summary, it's definitely an
intractable problem

1111
00:56:03,485 --> 00:56:06,695
because even if you
can really identify

1112
00:56:06,695 --> 00:56:09,615
exactly what you want now,
this is what I should be

1113
00:56:09,615 --> 00:56:12,034
focusing on.
There's the main thing in

1114
00:56:12,034 --> 00:56:16,873
ten years time, that car and
handsome bastard that is will

1115
00:56:16,873 --> 00:56:21,001
probably disagree with what
you think right now. And so

1116
00:56:21,001 --> 00:56:25,255
unless there's some way
that you can find out and focus

1117
00:56:25,255 --> 00:56:27,967
only on things that you know
both of them will agree upon,

1118
00:56:27,967 --> 00:56:30,552
I don't think that's possible.
But maybe that's a way

1119
00:56:30,552 --> 00:56:33,889
you could try and
eliminate all superfluous

1120
00:56:33,889 --> 00:56:36,434
things from your life.
I it's great

1121
00:56:36,434 --> 00:56:40,146
that you mentioned JPP
because he does this thing

1122
00:56:40,146 --> 00:56:42,565
where he does
these time breakdowns and he's

1123
00:56:42,565 --> 00:56:45,110
talking about a habit
and he goes, you know, if you're

1124
00:56:45,110 --> 00:56:49,239
that exercising 10 minutes a day
or that's 60 minutes a week,

1125
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:53,117
you know, that's one hour every,
you know, 50 blah, blah, blah.

1126
00:56:53,117 --> 00:56:56,329
And then he'll put it
as a percentage of how much it is

1127
00:56:56,329 --> 00:56:58,289
of your waking time.
And you realise, oh, that's

1128
00:56:58,289 --> 00:57:03,128
actually a big portion.
And so I think for things

1129
00:57:03,128 --> 00:57:07,423
like entertainment
for example, there's, I think

1130
00:57:07,423 --> 00:57:09,759
all of us can say
there is entertainment

1131
00:57:09,759 --> 00:57:14,012
that is trashy and it's trashy,
but it would still capture

1132
00:57:14,012 --> 00:57:17,766
your attention, which is the,
the bad, the, the negative thing.

1133
00:57:17,766 --> 00:57:23,231
So for me it is prank videos,
it is porn reaction videos,

1134
00:57:23,231 --> 00:57:27,277
fight videos, and even
things in the real world

1135
00:57:27,277 --> 00:57:31,197
like work arguments, for example,
if you have doing small

1136
00:57:31,197 --> 00:57:35,952
talk with people in the
at your work to, avoid whatever

1137
00:57:35,952 --> 00:57:38,496
or you know you're forced
into a conversation with someone

1138
00:57:38,496 --> 00:57:41,166
you don't even like.
I put all of those in the kind

1139
00:57:41,166 --> 00:57:45,878
of superfluous bucket and in that
those are the ones where

1140
00:57:45,878 --> 00:57:47,588
you've got to look at your
time breakdown.

1141
00:57:47,588 --> 00:57:51,009
And if you're doing
an hour of that kind of work

1142
00:57:51,009 --> 00:57:53,802
arguments a day,
that is a huge amount

1143
00:57:53,802 --> 00:57:59,476
of your actual like living time
waking time per week, per year,

1144
00:57:59,476 --> 00:58:02,978
per decade sort of deal.
And the last thing was just

1145
00:58:02,978 --> 00:58:05,731
I think are, you know,
a kind of practical note.

1146
00:58:05,731 --> 00:58:09,110
I think there are ways
you can try and eliminate

1147
00:58:09,110 --> 00:58:12,155
this, will highlight it.
So for me, for example,

1148
00:58:12,155 --> 00:58:14,199
where I'm actually
consciously paying.

1149
00:58:14,199 --> 00:58:16,284
So all the podcasts
that I listen to that

1150
00:58:16,284 --> 00:58:20,371
a value for value that I think
there's something that where I,

1151
00:58:20,371 --> 00:58:23,373
I evaluate kind of
oh is this worth

1152
00:58:23,373 --> 00:58:25,793
listening to because I'm
paying these people to listen to

1153
00:58:25,793 --> 00:58:28,505
is that I think that's
a great way of kind of

1154
00:58:28,505 --> 00:58:32,634
getting rid of bullcrap
and dropping shows

1155
00:58:32,634 --> 00:58:35,260
which are unnecessary
and then also just experimenting

1156
00:58:35,260 --> 00:58:40,182
things, making access to certain
apps less easy. I moved Telegram

1157
00:58:40,182 --> 00:58:43,603
off my homescreen
to deeper into my phone.

1158
00:58:43,603 --> 00:58:47,356
I was checking that
every morning. I don't check that

1159
00:58:47,356 --> 00:58:51,527
every morning now, and I am not
the West for it, you know,

1160
00:58:51,527 --> 00:58:53,905
it's just a small things you can
do, you can do to

1161
00:58:53,905 --> 00:58:57,157
eliminate stuff.
No, absolutely Perfect. Good.

1162
00:58:57,157 --> 00:58:59,744
I like it. Well,
our folks will memorialise

1163
00:58:59,744 --> 00:59:00,911
how they that's been
the conversation

1164
00:59:00,911 --> 00:59:03,206
around purposelessness.
I hope you have

1165
00:59:03,206 --> 00:59:06,960
taken some learning, some ideas.
Is there things

1166
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:08,920
that you're finding
that even us here at

1167
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,505
the Mere Mortals podcast,
we're doing

1168
00:59:11,505 --> 00:59:16,010
something unnecessary? Are we
not aware of some of the stuff

1169
00:59:16,010 --> 00:59:17,804
that we've been talking about?
And if people have been

1170
00:59:17,804 --> 00:59:19,597
following us for a while,
do you go, Hey,

1171
00:59:19,597 --> 00:59:21,056
because you're doing this,
which is actually

1172
00:59:21,056 --> 00:59:23,559
completely unnecessary,
why are you even doing this?

1173
00:59:23,559 --> 00:59:26,853
Cool it out to us. You know,
similarly is a things that,

1174
00:59:26,853 --> 00:59:28,606
you know, you're now
realising in life

1175
00:59:28,606 --> 00:59:30,483
that you can send us
through a message and go,

1176
00:59:30,483 --> 00:59:33,777
Hey Dan, thank you so very much.
I was actually doing this thing

1177
00:59:33,777 --> 00:59:36,155
and it's completely
and I'm sorry. Good call out.

1178
00:59:36,155 --> 00:59:37,990
Thanks for
holding me to the line.

1179
00:59:37,990 --> 00:59:40,492
Whichever way, whatever way
you want to contact us Now

1180
00:59:40,492 --> 00:59:43,329
you got why go to our website?
You can send through an email,

1181
00:59:43,329 --> 00:59:45,206
you can go to any
of our social media platforms.

1182
00:59:45,206 --> 00:59:47,416
You can go through that. You can
if you want to

1183
00:59:47,416 --> 00:59:50,043
leave a review on nice
apps out there.

1184
00:59:50,043 --> 00:59:52,505
But the main thing
that we ask you to do, you know,

1185
00:59:52,505 --> 00:59:55,300
if you really want to reach us
directly, is a booster game.

1186
00:59:55,300 --> 00:59:58,635
If using any of the Value
for Value enabled podcast

1187
00:59:58,635 --> 01:00:01,972
apps out there, you're able
to send through a big screen

1188
01:00:01,972 --> 01:00:04,641
with a small
amount of value attached

1189
01:00:04,641 --> 01:00:07,269
in the way of satoshis
that get through to us.

1190
01:00:07,269 --> 01:00:08,771
We read it out in the boosta
gram lounge.

1191
01:00:08,771 --> 01:00:10,898
That is the lifeblood
for the podcast

1192
01:00:10,898 --> 01:00:14,235
folks, the value for Valley
model. For it to work,

1193
01:00:14,235 --> 01:00:16,278
you have to send us through
some sort of value

1194
01:00:16,278 --> 01:00:18,447
based on the value
that we have given you. You know,

1195
01:00:18,447 --> 01:00:20,617
if our two faces
and the information

1196
01:00:20,617 --> 01:00:23,827
that we presented here
over an hour is kind of valuable,

1197
01:00:23,827 --> 01:00:25,871
then motherfucker,
send some money. Send some money.

1198
01:00:25,871 --> 01:00:28,541
So it's a totally for now,
if you don't want to do that

1199
01:00:28,541 --> 01:00:29,791
and you want to support us
in other ways,

1200
01:00:29,791 --> 01:00:32,503
you can share the podcast
at the Friends, you can tell

1201
01:00:32,503 --> 01:00:34,547
people about it,
you can communicate.

1202
01:00:34,547 --> 01:00:36,757
And you know, we've run
the last couple of weeks,

1203
01:00:36,757 --> 01:00:38,717
you know, we have been asking
questions around,

1204
01:00:38,717 --> 01:00:40,219
Hey, are you finding
this interesting

1205
01:00:40,219 --> 01:00:42,429
and we're placing things around,
Hey, give us some feedback

1206
01:00:42,429 --> 01:00:45,432
around this that also helps
the podcast get better.

1207
01:00:45,432 --> 01:00:47,601
So if you can
obviously react to that,

1208
01:00:47,601 --> 01:00:50,563
if you're not in a position
that you can support us through a

1209
01:00:50,563 --> 01:00:54,108
boostagram, satoshis
then that also is a secondary way

1210
01:00:54,108 --> 01:00:55,985
you can support.
But that is the main way

1211
01:00:55,985 --> 01:00:58,195
that we ask for support
here at the moment is.

1212
01:00:58,195 --> 01:01:00,989
Definitely. Beautiful.
All our folks will live there.

1213
01:01:00,989 --> 01:01:03,951
Thank you very much for joining.
Take all the best

1214
01:01:03,951 --> 01:01:06,536
wherever you are home.
Mere Mortalites

1215
01:01:06,536 --> 01:01:10,958
Juan out, Kyrin out. Boosh.