30 October 2023
ALEXANDER WATANABE | Interactive Art, Blockchain Archivality & Leaving The Cardano Bubble
What if you could interact with art through a completely new medium?
In Conversation #97, Alex and I discuss: why going to the gym is like levelling up in a game, how he plans to create onchain code using Ethereum that will be durable, how art can be manipulated & destroyed, the folly of arguing on the internet and why he's fallen out of love with Cardano.
Have a fantastic day wherever you are in the world & don't forget to boost!
Timeline:
(0:00) - Intro
(0:18) - Alex wants to get strong
(5:27) - Everyone is a gamer
(13:35) - Using a blockchain for art archivality
(20:22) - Executable code that run onchain
(26:47) - Audience interaction with the art/medium
(33:10) - How not_v2 will be interactive
(41:30) - Picking what you want
(49:39) - Grimes AI voice
(52:59) - AI artists are the coders (not the prompters)
(1:00:14) - Swimming is all the same sport
(1:03:15) - Literature is the purest art form
(1:10:59) - Shirtless book reviews & Natural Hypertrophy
(1:12:48) - Moving Unsigs to Ethereum
(1:20:32) - Cropping paintings & forgeries
(1:25:51) - Arguing on Twitter is dumb
(1:31:17) - Personification on the internet
(1:36:12) - Real world gets you out of a bubble
(1:41:33) - Problems: We're not limited by the tech
(1:51:13) - Cardano is a small uncreative fish
(1:57:25) - Life in Portugal
(2:02:13) - Where to argue with Alex
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