Why am I making a bet that Spotify will be bankrupt within 8 years time?
In Episode #409 of 'Musings', Juan & I discuss: the recent breakout of 'Value 4 Value Music', how little musicians earn compared to podcasters, trends of music consumption on streaming apps, whether people care about connecting with artists and all the technical and social problems that need to be overcome.
Massive thanks to Petar, Emcot & McIntosh for the support! Legends!
My how to video for listening to &/or uploading v4v music: https://youtu.be/nZyb9mq4ECU
Timeline:
(0:00) - Intro
(0:45) - The Topic: Juan's con & Kyrin's pro
(2:38) - Problems in the music industry
(7:34) - Musicians are desperate (in a good & bad way)
(10:55) - V4V Music is not for everyone
(18:54) - Ainsley Costello's experience
(28:32) - What do fans get for participating?
(34:40) - Do people want a connection with musicians?
(41:21) - Boostagram Lounge
(45:41) - V4V will change the world by 4-10%
(50:05) - Connecting with the musician
(54:33) - Why do people support musicians?
(57:08) - Scammers: A return to the Napster days
(1:00:46) - Discoverability & music vs podcasting
(1:07:52) - Summary
(1:13:05) - Will Spotify adapt or go broke?
(1:17:44) - V4V: We want your music thoughts
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