In this engaging episode of Paul English Live, we delve into the power of community and the importance of reclaiming local identity through the use of county flags. Our guest, Hannah Bader, shares her journey from a legal background to becoming a passionate advocate for the English County Assemblies. She emphasizes the significance of trial by jury and the role of community law courts in empowering individuals to take back control from the overarching political structures. Hannah's insights into the historical and cultural importance of county flags as symbols of local identity and unity offer a fresh perspective on grassroots activism.
Throughout the episode, we explore the potential of simple actions, such as flying county flags and wearing county-themed merchandise, to foster a sense of belonging and empowerment among the people. The conversation touches on the historical context of English law, the role of sheriffs, and the importance of community involvement in legal processes. With a focus on practical steps and community engagement, this episode inspires listeners to consider how they can contribute to reclaiming their local heritage and rights.
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| |(00:02:21) Introduction and Weather Chat
(00:03:24) Remembering Sussex Man
(00:06:14) Hannah Bader's Journey
(00:13:08) Hannah's Legal Career and Challenges
(00:24:32) Hannah's Awakening and New Path
(00:31:01) Creating the Community Law Court
(00:47:04) The Power of Trial by Jury
(01:08:01) The Significance of Flags and Identity
(01:36:11) Reclaiming Land and Rights
(02:00:07) The Role of Assemblies and Future Plans
(02:24:34) Humor and Creativity in Activism
(02:55:07) Closing Thoughts and Optimism
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Hi, everyone. Welcome back. It's, Thursday, July 24. Calendar in head still working. This is Paul English Live episode 97. We've got a fun and interesting show lined up for you tonight. Welcome to the show. And although the weather's gone a little bit gloomy around here over the last ten or twelve hours. Started off sunny but it's gone a bit gloomy. We're going to have a bright and cheery show for you tonight. I'm, of course, joined, by the ever present and ever amusing Eric Von Essex. He's in tow. He'll be here shortly. And in a few moments after that, we'll be joined by our guest of tonight, Hannah Bader. Looking forward to this one.
Well, hi, everyone. Welcome back. As I said, it's, it's good old Thursday. A little bit gloomy here this evening which is, which is fine. We get a little bit of gloom. It's nice and warm though and muggy. I don't know where it is where you you've been but, nice and warm and muggy around here. And, I'm joined of course by Eric von Essex. Eric, hello. Good evening to you. How are you doing this Friday or not so fine evening? Greetings. How are you? Well, at,
[00:04:24] Unknown:
Fockem Hall Towers, it's a little bit cooler up here up in the you know, we're a little bit more north than, you are, Paul. And, yes. It's, it's not I wouldn't say it's cold, but it's a little chilly in the air. As you know, I think it's due to the, Japanese air conditioning. There's a nip in the air.
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Is there?
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Yes. Yes. So it's a yes. Slightly. I bet it's it's okay. You know? I mean, it's not freezing cold, but it's it's just right actually, but not muggy. Strange, isn't it?
[00:04:53] Unknown:
Yeah. I guess. Yeah. It's not too bad. I've just been out I went out for a little saunter as I often do Yeah. Pre show, just down to the beach, you know, for a sort of gazing into the mid distance there looking to spot yachts and things and all that kind of stuff. Quite nice, though. Not a bad evening. Of course, nearly knocked over by a couple of runners. These people are always running around Yes. Destroying their knee joints and things like that. But,
[00:05:16] Unknown:
Well, you get knocked over by people with scooters here. You know, those those those sort of, illegal scooters, but they they still use them. But, often like and I struck because you're close to the sea, and so am I. I'm just a, 40 miles away, which in Australia would be living on the beach. Yes. Yes. Yes. Beautiful coastline. I mean, the, South South End On Sea is the no. Actually, no. It's Malden On Sea is the is the closest close line to me. That's, about 35 miles away. So there we go. So not that far.
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Yeah. A couple of little things to bring to everybody's attention as well. I'll I'll kind of more we'll get the gloominess out of the way. It's not, I mean, it what it might not necessarily always be gloomy but, some of you will know that, there was a dear old chap used to call in here, Sussex man. He hasn't called him for quite a few months and, he's been struggling a bit. He had, as many of you know, I've passed on that he'd had a stroke towards the back end of last year. He's been a long and dear friend of mine, for a long time, but sadly he passed away this Sunday, just gone. I went to visit him last week in hospital over at Eastbourne, and he didn't seem too bad, actually. At least he was understanding everything that I was saying, but obviously things turned for the worst. And, he shuffled off this mortal coil on Sunday at the grand old age of 86 plus x number of months. I don't know when he was exactly born.
And I've just been over there today really with his family and helping them sort a few things out. He was, a wonderful chap. I've known him since about 02/2013. So although there is a generation gap between us and and we had considerably different cultural tastes as you can imagine, there was a tremendous shared interest in English history and the law, which is gonna be very much the theme of tonight's show, something that he would have enjoyed very much, of course. Maybe he's enjoying it anyway from where he is, but, Chris, wherever you are, have a fantastic journey onto the next leg of whatever it is that's coming up. You know, it's funny that you sort of bump into people so much older than yourself courtesy of this technology. That's what brought us all together many years ago and just end up with a tremendous shared interest. So I was just over there really making sure that parts of his vast library, don't disappear into the ethers and I managed to, secure that which was being good.
And it reminds me of that phrase. What's that thing? When an old man dies, a library burns to the ground. And I think in Chris's case, it's probably three or four libraries because he was, he was very well stocked and curious right up to the very end. It was, tremendous really. Very minded about things, always looking to ask questions and throw out any sort of false understandings that he may have picked up. And I only discovered today, I didn't know this, that his real profession he was a horticulturist and he'd worked down at Kew Gardens for years. So, this vast book collection that he had, it turns out that the vast majority of them were all about plants. And I don't have a green finger in my body, Eric. I don't know about you, but I'm sort of green fingerless.
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Very well, I I I don't know. I mean, you know, I kinda like gardening, actually. Because, apparently, my star sign is an earth sign. See, I'm Taurus the bull. So I'm for the bull, you see. So there we go. Oh, yeah. But I thought Arturians Home Builders, but maybe that explains that you're you're DIY and in the garden and all that kind of stuff. That's right. I I kinda like being in the garden. I like being next to nature. But I'd like to say something for Chris. We only spoke briefly on your show. Bless you, Chris. Thanks for making a mark on on on this earth, and, you know,
[00:09:01] Unknown:
good luck where where you're off to now. So, you know, it it was a honor to speak to him. So even though that's your Eric. There's a fine thought. So, I was I was with the vicar today because they're getting organized and he said to me, he said, now would you would you say a eulogy at the service? I said, yeah. An hour? I said, teasing. An hour. I said, no. No. We don't want it that long. Really? Two hours then. Because I do you've got to bring cushions. This is going to be a long haul. We're gonna be going through an awful lot of things here. But, yeah, I don't know what it is. It'll be a few weeks' time, but, lots of people around the house who all have really sort of, you know, been rather charmed by Chris's sort of demeanor and everything. He had a handyman who'd been redoing all his house right up to the very moment, and I think it was, he just it it looks as though he got some kind of an infection, and it it was, after the stroke, it was just a bit too much. And there we go. Anyway, at least I got to see him on Wednesday and shake his hand a bit, and he he didn't seem too bad then, but, obviously, there we go. I love it. Not a bad innings. It's not a bad But it's pretty But I just hope he didn't suffer. I don't he just yeah. Because I don't think he did. Did he have much of a family? Did he have a family at all?
Yeah. The well, some of them were down there, but, they'd flown down from Inverness and stuff. He was pretty much his own man. Let's put it that way. I don't think Yeah. He was pretty much, you know, he cut his own cloth and he was, he had a very different view of of things as as the vicar noted to me today. Although the vicar was pretty good. He was great. He wasn't one of those hello. He wasn't one of those. He was quite a nice sort of guy. Yeah. He was great. He was pretty good, really. And I I think, Chris had gone down there even though Chris didn't fully agree with organized churches. Mhmm. He would sort of get involved in all sorts of things and and make his contribution. Let's put it that way, you know. So that was always good. Is this the very old Vic? He in his nineties, you were talking about? Yeah. I think he is. Yeah. Yeah. I I said that to him. He seemed slightly offended or something, but he looked fine.
So I said, are you the guy that's 98? I said, no. Well, you don't look a day over 91. No. I was just this is all running I don't say those things, but they're in my head all the time. Yes. And I have to get an editor on for all that. Of course, the other person that's passed away today or this week was Ozzy Osbourne of Black Sabbath. Oh. Were you a Black Sabbath fan, Eric?
[00:11:17] Unknown:
No. No. How did how did a man who could well, let's put it this way. Any passing is a sad experience. I mean, I feel sorry for his family, etcetera, etcetera. But quite honestly, I think he was just a talentless nothing that was put up as an icon. For the for the for the drugs industry. I think he did lot for promoting the illegal trading drugs, which, of course, the government is heavily into.
[00:11:53] Unknown:
But we won't go into that. But, no. I mean, he's a I think he's an intro he was a funny sort of character in a way. Not that Yeah. It wasn't really my sort of thing either. I understood I mean, I knew a lot of people in my sort of age group that were really into it. It didn't really sort of get me. There were a couple of things they did that were okay. But I think as an individual not I've read his autobiography. Apparently, his autobiography is an absolute hoot because he's actually just a, a working class lad who's pretty sweet in real life. Actually, this is how he comes across. Now everybody says that in normal life, he's quite a sweetie. But when he got on on the stage, he turned into this other persona. You know, some people do that sort of thing. And Look at Alice Cooper. Anyway. Alice Cooper,
[00:12:36] Unknown:
wears a suit and tie and is very sort of businesslike. Very posh when he comes off of stage. But when he's on stage, it's completely differently different, you know? Anyway, the the idea of Chris and Ozzy Osbourne being fellow travelers to the new destination is really quite
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that's what I was bringing up there. They're about as to just passing a part on the cultural sensitivity as you could possibly imagine. So anyway, anyway, good luck to both of them. Good luck to both of them on their journey. Anyway, Eric, as you know, we have an interesting guest this evening. Yes. Hannah Badder, who's, just hopefully, she's here. And, we've got her on the line and, Hannah, are you are you with us this evening?
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I am.
[00:13:19] Unknown:
Wonderful. Nice to have you. So we've got through all we've got through all the introduction bit. We've we've learned about a few things this that and the other so, yeah, no it's great to have you here after our conversations earlier on in the week and and last week. Mhmm. And, Yeah. Really sort of, you know, ever since I spoke to you as I mentioned that it's been running around in my head all of these little ideas and thoughts on what you're up to and what you're doing with the English County's Assembly and what you might not be doing with them and what you might be doing yourself and all that kind of stuff. But many people I'm sure there's quite a few people here that do know you, but many don't. And also, a quick a quick thank you to Lisa. Lisa, thank you very much for making the, connection for me with Hannah. Yeah. Wonderful. Thank you very much, Lisa. That's how you ended up getting here, didn't you? So but, you know, you've probably been asked this loads of times, I suppose. But if you were to be able to give us a quick preamble about how you've got into this position, is there, do you have a little sort of
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Oh, dear. Right. This position as in, do you would you like an elevator pitch of my life story? Is that what you're sort of
[00:14:34] Unknown:
obsessed? Us one? It's up to you. I don't mind if you want to. We got plenty of time. Yeah. You can give us an elevator pitch. It's easy.
[00:14:41] Unknown:
I well, I'm I'm gonna start of, so I am a working class woman from an industrial town called Widnes, right next door to Warrington, the home of the very infamous David Darren Ward. Mhmm. And, I was raised as a Roman Catholic and, participated in the various rituals, shall we say, of that particular religion. Yeah. And, well, I mean, women in my town, it was, you know, finish school and start having children. It was there was no I mean, well, I mean, my mother was quite modern. She, used to sell Tupperware in Avon, so she was quite a businesswoman for an industrial town. But there wouldn't have been, you know, high expectations of of myself, other than, you know, to to marry and and have children. And and and, actually, if you think about it, that's quite old fashioned, really, because you know what I mean? I mean, I'm 56, and it's quite old fashioned if you think about your your late sixties, early seventies.
And you'd think many people would have progressed. But a small industrial town that's, you know, quite religious Yes. Haven't progressed much at all. So I was into acting. I was a bit of a wild card as having spoken to me, and the people on the line will probably know. And, I was lucky because my teachers allowed me to, be fairly self expressed. And, so I was a bit of a sort of character, you know, when I was at school and, I played many acting roles. And I wanted to be an actress. And when I left home, I went to drama school and did quite well. I was a theater actress for many years and, Shakespearean and, toured around UK and sorry, England. Oops.
There we go again. Rambling. Yes. I mean, I'm in England. And, and, really, that was my life until, I got married and have my first son and realized that I probably needed to do something a bit more sensible because, touring with, a young baby is not really something you can do, not not easily. And so I decided to do a law degree. I think also because I hadn't done well academically when I was at school, I suppose I wanted to prove that I could do, something, academic, you know, because my drama degree was, you know, arts arts based and dance and performance and all that. So it wasn't really academic. Right. I absolutely loved it. I went to London Metropolitan University.
They have a law school over there in Highbury Field. It's amazing. It's a little old building, and it was just fantastic. I absolutely
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loved it. What year would that be then when you went when you were going there Oh. Roundabout? '34, '44. I was '34. So it's my second, degree. So So this is the '19 when? The '19 when is?
[00:17:51] Unknown:
Oh, gold. Don't ask. I don't know. But, anyway, I mean, I did it. And I and I this I mean, it's quite crazy, really, because I had no GCSEs or anything because I left school without any qualifications. All I wanted to do was was be an actress. Right. And then I did acting and did very well at the at that. And I got into, London Met as a mature student. And, so I was really lucky, but I touched I I just I just loved it, and I read tons and tons of books. And I was a top student in trusts. I actually got the highest grade in the in my year, in my cohort for, my trust exam.
Right. And, then I thought, well, because of my performance background, it just seemed like a no brainer to me that I would go to the bar and become a barrister. And, that's what I did. So I, I went to inner temple in, oh, Crikey. I think it's just off Fleet Street in London.
[00:18:56] Unknown:
And, spent Well, I used to walk past it loads when I was in London years ago. But, yeah, yeah, I know that neck of the woods. Spent a year there doing more rituals, which brought me back to my, Roman Catholicism,
[00:19:07] Unknown:
very much so. And, those rituals were more based on things like ego and gluttony. I spent twelve months, in sumptuous dining halls sitting next to titled people, trying to sort of, you know, fit in. Always felt feeling slightly awkward even though I had my northern accent knocked out of me at drama school. I still you know, it was still kind of there. Do you know what I mean? The working class kind of, you know, sort of, inferiority,
[00:19:42] Unknown:
somewhat inferiority. Take the lass out of the North, but you cannot take the North out of the lass. Is that right? Yeah.
[00:19:49] Unknown:
Yeah. So, and I I couldn't get into, I couldn't get a pupillage, and it was bizarre because as I said, I was, I was a very good student. And I used to get side with glances from judges and and lawyers and things, and I I didn't really understand why. And it wasn't until actually two decades later that I understood why.
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Mhmm.
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But I wanted to do human rights and social justice and couldn't get in. Ended up in a criminal set. I started a pupillage in a criminal set, did about six months, and I was out because during that time, I bore witness to the horrendous, environments that people who have been charged with, criminal offenses are, you know, subjected to. Going down to, the old courts and the magistrates' courts, and they have, these, I mean, it's like, I suppose, going into, the London Dungeons, but they're real. You know? And it it it smells of urine, and people are in tiny little cages, and it's just disgusting. And this is before they've even been found guilty, you know. And there were all these, young barristers and and lawyers with their, you know, with their posh suits and their suitcase with all their books and notepads and all the rest of it in, taking notes behind the bars, of these, poor creatures, and it just made me feel ill. It almost sounds Dickensian, doesn't it? It was. It was as if nothing's really changed that differentiation
[00:21:25] Unknown:
between the scum and those who are not the scum. Yeah?
[00:21:30] Unknown:
Yeah. It totally was, and I just wasn't comfortable with it at all. And it was it's really hard taking a statement from somebody when their face is kind of split up by bars. And, one day I asked if I asked if they could take this guy out so that I could speak to him at a table, and they thought that was really funny. Everyone started laughing. And, and I just knew I it was just awful. And then one of my first cases, where I was, I had my master, which is the sort of, you know, the head honcho of the chambers
[00:22:02] Unknown:
Mhmm. And,
[00:22:04] Unknown:
it was a rape case. And, we were representing the rape rapist, and I could see from the evidence that he was guilty. And I just it just made me really ill. I've just thought I can't do this because, obviously, there are always two sides to every story, but there's a line where you go, yeah. No. The evidence was just overwhelming. And, my, master was saying to me, well, you know, you're gonna do this, and you're gonna do that. Tell me, how it was all gonna go. And, and I said, I can't I can't go in there. I can't I can't I can't I just can't defend this guy. And, he said, well, you will. You'll do as you're told. And, you know, he sort of marched me off to the court. And, I just remember opening the doors, and the the first the first individual that I saw was the woman who had been raped.
Right. And, you know, she was this pathetic, little, fragile woman Mhmm. With mouthy blonde hair and glasses. And I just I just closed the door and walked, and that was my last day at the bar. I just couldn't do it. You know? No. So,
[00:23:08] Unknown:
I really like looking expecting to sort of have that response in yourself? Had you thought about that beforehand, or was this just like No. Well it just hit you?
[00:23:17] Unknown:
I I well, no. I didn't. I I I, being a norther a northerner, yeah, I have, I have, an inherent naivety, and and and honesty, to my being. And so I passionate believed that what I had been taught was correct. Yes. 100%. I was totally brainwashed. But at the same time, my gut was telling me something different, and that's what I was struggling with. Mhmm. And, there was also, of course, moments where I understood that I could there's something quite egotistical about the idea that somebody could have committed a crime and that you could get them off it. You know? There's there's something quite, addictive about that. And I think that a lot of, barristers, certainly the ones that act for criminals, they get, you know, they get a high off it. It's it's like getting away with it on behalf of the client type thing. And they're not liable they're not liable if it all goes wrong for the lie of the person. No. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. They did. Yeah.
So, I went back to university. I thought I would become a lecturer, and, I started doing a master's in international law. And, and then something, shocking happened. I had two sons at that time. Well, male, three, actually. And, one of my sons, was five, and, he was at a play park. And, it was a stay and play place for the summer holidays. And, and he he was only there three days, and it was just there was something really odd about what was going on there. And, and he had a love bites on his body, and I completely freaked out being a lawyer and, you know, and all that. So I called, London Metropolitan Police and reported it. And I said, I want the park investigating. I want this I want this, lab investigating. He was 16 or 17. He was a young, you know, lab working at this park. And, the result of that was I had all three of my, young boys removed from my care.
[00:25:32] Unknown:
Purely for making the inquiry?
[00:25:35] Unknown:
That's correct. For well, I it well, I was reporting a crime. Yeah. And it was because the park was a local authority park, and it was the time of the, baby pee case. And at that time, if those listening can remember, the the the social services and GPs and everyone involved were absolutely slaughtered. And this was a backlash. So they were taking thousands of children into care for nothing. And I was warned by the police, and and looking back on it, they were trying to actually help me. They said to me, just leave it. Just leave it. And because I was a lawyer, I was like, I I will not. I want justice. I want this investigating.
You know? Yeah. And so I pushed I pushed and pushed. And the and the impact was, on me and my sons. So I, they told me that I'd made the whole thing up and that I was, psychotic. I went I had to have two psychiatric exams. I had to do parenting, courses, all sorts of things. And they were in the care system for seven months while, while I jumped through hoops. Now at the time, remember, I'm totally brainwashed, and I think that all this is right. So I'm just in a state of guilt feeling that I've done something terribly wrong. Mhmm. And, and so I did everything. I was I was what I now perceive as a good little slave. I got all my sons back. There were no orders.
Believe it or not, the psychiatric reporter said I was perfectly normal, though somewhat, eccentric. Well, would be with a theatrical background. And, you know, they were dropped off as if they never took them just like that. Boom. And hated law, completely, disrupted my masters, so I never completed it. I never wanted to do anything to do with law ever ever again. Hated it. Hated it. Hated it. And, so spent the next kind of decade plus of my life as an entrepreneur, set up a cleaning business, organic cleaning business that was very successful, wrote a book, moved from London to Devon to finish my book. And then I think around that time, COVID, hit.
And 2020
[00:27:57] Unknown:
then. We're up to about 2020. Yep. Yeah. And,
[00:28:01] Unknown:
I I got into a bit of a an argument with the local council over travel, passes for my sons. And, I just thought, you know what? I'm I swear on your show?
[00:28:15] Unknown:
You can't f.
[00:28:17] Unknown:
Oh, right. You want to Well, then I'm gonna say I'm You could do it after 09:00. If you want to store them all up, you could let them all go after 09:00. I'm gonna say I'm gonna I'm gonna use the word funked. I was funked off. Right? Yes.
[00:28:31] Unknown:
I quite like that. That's very good. I like that. Do you like that? Yeah. We quite like that.
[00:28:36] Unknown:
Okay. So, so, basically, I happened upon this chap in Canada called John Little. And, John Little, taught me something called sui jures, which is the law of I. And, John has about seven kids. I've never met him in person. Only ever spoke to him, you know, like, I'm talking to you now. Mhmm. But this guy, he took the, you know, he, he took the blindfold off. And, wow, when he explained to me, about the, if you understand, the legal fiction, the mister, the miss, the miss, the surname, and and and and the slave system that we are all currently in. Yes. I was I I was absolutely shocked and just but at the same time, absolutely clear.
Everything just suddenly dropped into place. You know? I had three beautiful sons. I was causing a little bit of problem ten ten years or so earlier. And, of course, they'd want to take my sons because they could sell them, couldn't they? They could have them adopted. They could put them into foster care. Three beautiful boys. Yeah? And, I suddenly saw everything completely and utterly different to what I have perceived it to be. Right. And from that point, really, I became I I believe that I was, it was it was like a spiritual awakening for me. And I realized that if I had been subject to all of that tyranny, the chances are that I wasn't the only one, and that I had a duty, knowing, the legalese like I did because I've been legally trained, and then starting to comprehend the lawful side of law, that I had to, do everything possible to alert people. And that's what I started doing. So you you began, like,
[00:30:40] Unknown:
an education self education process part two, really, on the, let's say, the right side of things now. That's right. Yeah. The veil had been removed, and you're suddenly going, oh, this is the real stuff that underpins it that that they've been using to abuse us. And so you've been in that space, I guess, for the last five years or so, four or five years. Yeah?
[00:31:02] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I've tried to I've tried to escape it once because it's hard. You know, we're in a war here, and and there's no mistake about that. We're we're completely in a war. And, and, of course, a lot of people have no idea that we're in a war. And, yeah, I it's hard. It's it's it's just shocking what's going on. And, I think that I was so raw when I started to get this knowledge, and I've read many, many books. I mean, I've crikey, I mean, I've studied so so much so many things, including what I'm doing now, you know, researching and reviewing other people's work and just everything. But what I did is I started, I created, a court.
It's called a community law court.
[00:31:55] Unknown:
Now let's just stop there. How do you Okay. I'm just gonna ask a naive question. Mhmm. How do you create a court? It's a word, isn't it? You just said the word. Yeah. And, of course, when you say the word court, we think of buildings and things like this. But what does what what did that process involve? I'm gonna create a court, you said to yourself. And off you went and did it. What what did you do then? How did you create it?
[00:32:19] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, you know, as as everyone, who's listening can imagine, nothing's ever quite as simple as that. I I happened across, I think there were three lovely, lovely ladies who'd all been, burnt, let's call it burnt by the system Right. One way or the other. You know? And we came together, and we used to meet once a week. And, and we discussed how we could, get remedy for for the wrongs that we had all been subjected to. And I took somewhat the lead on that just because I've I had a legal and then lawful background. And as the thing developed and evolved to the point where we thought we could have our first trial by jury, they all kind of backed out of it.
And,
[00:33:10] Unknown:
and I was left sort of on my own. Now did they back out because they I'm assuming they just didn't have us any sense or any kind of experience with regards to sup supposed lawful processes. I mean, even as you're saying it to me, I'm knowing I would find that an alien idea. Look, Paul. We're just gonna do a court next week around the back of the bike sheds. It must have been quite a thing for them. They would have had any way
[00:33:36] Unknown:
you know?
[00:33:36] Unknown:
Well, let we've been meeting up at each other's houses over about, six weeks or more. Okay. Yeah. There have been long discussions. It it was a buildup, and it there was agreements all around, and, people took on different roles. One one of the ladies was was very good at building websites, so she started creating some sort of semblance of a website. Somebody else was a former accountant, you know. So, there was everyone had designated roles and it and it wasn't, it wasn't sort of something that that just, you know, was was created overnight. It was something that had a genuine buildup, and we discussed whose cases we would do and how we would go about doing it. And there was a lot of discussion, and there was a plan. But I think what happened, and I think that this is what we're struggling with even now, is that we, when when we have to take accountability, for something that seems so much bigger and, is more powerful in terms of resources than ourselves.
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Mhmm.
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Fear comes in. And the closer we get to action, the more the fear comes in. And I think that my theatrical backgrounds, I'm used to being in action. That's what actors and actresses do. You know? They move. You know? They move around the stage. Whereas, these women, were used to a designated kind of area of expertise, possibly sitting more and using their head, which I know you will relate to because you and I were talking about. But, you know, that chap who, did the TED talk the other day? You were talking
[00:35:25] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't I don't know I don't know if listeners are familiar with sir Ken Robinson. I ought to, I ought to Sir Ken Robinson. Sir Ken. He I I looked him up, you know, he actually passed away in 02/2020, which was a great disappointment to me. He died at the age of 17. Oh my god. Yeah. Yeah. Why? He said cancer. So I don't think it was he he'd been struggling with it for some time. But, there's a speech that he gave at a TED talk about 2012 or something like that. It's twenty minutes long. It's one of the funniest and most informative twenty minutes you can ever spend. Maybe some of you are familiar with it. But he's it's absolutely marvelous. It's, I I have a a cousin who, was in the training. He's over in Toronto. I think he's retired now, but he's over in Canada. He he's the sort of guy that gets up he was a sort of sales motivational speaker for hundreds of Pepsi Cola reps. He sent me a photograph once where he was actually sort of revving up about a thousand of them in this hall somewhere in the middle of America. Right? He's a bit of a he's an actor like you. He's got a very strong thespian aspect to him. Actually, he's got Tourette's. I'm serious. He's got Tourette's syndrome, And he's managed to sort of handle it and, it it's given him a kind of an explosive energy. But I showed I showed him the Ken Robinson thing and he said, this is just amazing and it will it is. It's a wonderful thing. We'll dig it up. Well, I'll I'll have to play it sometime on the show. It's too long to put in here because it's twenty minutes and it wouldn't take over completely. But it it's it's a brilliant communication. I think the key point he's saying is about valuing creativity.
There's a great line where he says about school systems, and he's saying, we've strip mined people in the same way that we take resources out of the earth for for one particular commodity, which is we call intelligence. He said, and that's the way the whole system is built. Wherever you go around the world, the public school systems are built on mathematics and languages and sciences all the way down. He said, and nowhere is dance. This is very interesting when you were talking about movement there. He said, nowhere is dance placed anywhere. And he said, why not? Why isn't this? He said, people like to move. Look at us. When you're children, we all move around. It's all skipping around. I know all the blokes are, oh, our toes are curly. Like a good grief. Don't remind me of that. But it's true. There's a sort of natural sort of spring and life in you and, the great anecdote he told, I don't know if you saw it, about, for Gillian Lynne, which was absolutely amazing because, I'll I'll just tell you this one, sort of paraphrase it very simple for those of you haven't heard it. Gillian Lynne's a choreographer and, she's responsible for cats and things like this.
Hardly anybody, I think, at the time even knew her. Maybe her name is new or new, but when she was young, she was a fidget at school. He talks about this and that that would be in the nineteen thirties, I think so. I think it was nineteen thirties he was saying. And he said, if if they had her today they'd probably say she had ADHD, but they couldn't give it to them because it's not a condition that had been created at that point. They didn't they couldn't actually ascribe it to her, you know. And, one day her mother brings her in to see a teacher and that her mum's explaining to the teacher all the problems that Gillian's having at school.
And he's listening and he comes over to Julie. So look me and your mum are gonna go into this room. We need to talk about a couple of things. You just stay here and we'll be back in a few minutes. And as he walked out of the room, he turned the radio on. And he and, they came out of the room and he turned to her mother he said, just watch. And they looked back into the room and Gillian Lyn had just stood up immediately and begun dancing. And he he turned to her mother and he said he said, he said, Jillian Jillian's not, it's not that Jillian's a problem child. He said, she's a dancer.
It's just the most fantastic thing. She's a dancer. You need to take her to dance school. And Ken Robinson had spoken to me. He said, and I asked her what that was like and she said it was absolutely amazing that they took her to this dance school and she learned tap and ballet. I know this is a thing for certainly for most blokes to find very difficult to relate to but it's definitely part of the culture even though it's off there somewhere, you know, it doesn't get too much prominence in our culture these days. But she learned all these different skill sets and he said to what was it like? She said it was absolutely amazing. She just changed my childhood.
I I was with everybody was moving around. I was with people, she said, who had to move to think. It's just amazing thought. They had to move to think and and he was saying creativity is this thing and he said we're educated out of it. And I actually, there was another clip I heard from him that they have all these charts for measuring your ability to be creative, and when we're all three to five, it's off the charts. But what happens is is that the education system, of course, shuts or puts tram lines in. Many people conform to that and then you end up with this kind of hive system, which, of course, we're all battling against most of our lives from that point onwards. But, anyway, there you go. I hogged the mic a little bit. But,
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anyway, where where were we? You. Thank you. Thank you for that. Well well, in a nutshell, what that chap was saying, to my understanding, was that professors, and what what the education system aspires to only use their heads. They literally their body, just become, something that carries their head around.
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A transport mechanism for taking their head to meetings, I think he said. That's it.
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And so I think what happened with these, wonderful women Yeah. Is that they were in that space. I was ready to to move and take those steps, and they just couldn't. They were quite happy to sit around and talk about it and make notes and, quite happy to reflect over it and come up with great ideas and build web sites and do all the, the technical things. But when it came to actually standing it up, they just, they just couldn't do it. And, interestingly, some of them went off and went back into the legal system and lost even more money and wasted even more time.
And, in the meantime, I took over the, community law court because it was my title in creation anyway.
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The community law court. Yeah. This is law court. Yeah. And that's what? 02/2122,
[00:41:53] Unknown:
something like that? No. I think it was earlier than that. I think the first I I can't remember exactly, but I think the first court was possibly in '21, I think. So I, basically, I I just made things happen very, very quickly, and I'd started, doing paperwork for people across the country. I I didn't really understand how powerful I was, to be honest. And there were things happening, like, courts were shutting down because of my work. The police were coming in and filling public galleries if people had my paperwork in their hands and was reading it out. Mhmm. The it was across the country as well because, I have, and I think I hope that Neil's listening to the show just now.
But Neil, Neil Feinsilver joined me as an assistant, and, and he was a great help to me and my son, Darcy. And we basically, ran the community law court. So it was just it was just a joke because we're getting phone calls from people all over the country desperate, you know, for help. And For justice? It was, yeah. And it was, at times, it was quite full on. And, Neil is, Neil's done the knowledge, and he's a brilliant driver. So, we'd we'd we'd be going off. You know, we we we did, courts in different parts of the country for family courts and just just different things. And there was there was no, there were no obstacles in the way. We just got on and did it. And we had, what I realized through, we so we put up public notices in the area where we were convening the courts.
We would invite the people that the, that was the that that should be defending the claim. It didn't matter if they didn't show up. That was their choice. I mean, it's just like you get a summons. A summons is an invitation to court. You don't have to go. Right? And, if you don't go, then, obviously, they can do they can make of that what they want. And in the same way, a trial by jury, can do the same. And so, we I started serving public notices on the council. I served an eviction notice on the Exeter Law Courts, in Devon.
There were hundreds and hundreds of police vehicles and terrorist police and all sorts of things. I mean, it crazy because all I was doing was delivering a bit of paper to the court. So when you say for example, when you just said then you served a public notice on a council,
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what what specifically was that? Or can you say? I don't know. What what would that Well well, it was it was yeah. Well, it was,
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it was, a claim that I made against them with regards to harm that they caused myself and my sons as a result of them, them not, being willing to provide my sons with transport to education.
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Right.
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So, I I I think that the actual topic is less significant, but the process is is very significant. Yes. Because what we had is we put out notices publicly for people to, participate, in this trial by jury. We invited, the leaders of the council. Everything was done just as it just as you would find in a proper court, apart from we didn't wear silly wigs and black copes. Clothes. Oh, how disappointing. No. And we weren't using codes, acts, and statutes. And, the law public law is made by the trial by jury. I don't know what the law is. Only a trial by jury can tell. Tell me what the law is because they create the law. That is real public law. That is customary law, and that may be even perceived as being common law. I don't like to use the word common law because the legal system has bastardized the word and treats it as a judge made law, which is, usually one old crony who, you know, who's full of ego and wants everyone to believe that everything he says is absolutely correct, and therefore, everyone has to follow his lead. Well, that's not common law.
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They tend to throw in, don't they? They tend to throw in common law when they're describing what they've just done as if that makes it to sort of appease a certain part of the of the listening audience. I I heard it the other day and it's this and it's that and it's under common and I'm going, yeah, but you don't enact that. It's just almost like a a bit of window dressing that they actually put over to sort of keep everybody. Oh, then it must be okay and based in the roots of this, that, and the other. But they don't apply it at all. It doesn't mean anything. It's just a sort of bit of trivia that they That's it. They steal they steal our words. They steal our words all the time.
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And that's and that's a lot of the things that are going on now is wordplay. It's all word trickery. And that's that's really important for people to understand what what certain words mean. I'll give you an example. The word registration. Whenever you see whenever you are required to register something, you're transferring title. And the first thing we do when we have a beautiful newborn baby is take it off to register it. Well, there you go. You've just handed your baby over to the state.
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Right? So Can you, can you deregister your babies?
[00:47:26] Unknown:
Can they do Yeah. Well, kind of. I mean, let so just to kind of just to sort of finish this Yes. Sorry. The the the community law court thing off. Yeah. So that that's not sort of open ended. Basically, what people really need to understand is the power of a trial by jury, the power of the people coming together and creating the law. And, I want to talk about the the variable levels of success because they have been variable. Mhmm. And the reason that they're variable will certainly in the case of the community law court, the reason that it was variable at the time is that, in effect, it was me, Neil, and my son, Darcy.
Can you imagine? It's crazy. And we were convening cases all over the country. It was us. And it was good. It was very good work. But the results were variable. And there were other people that helped us, don't get me wrong, on the tech side, you know, people that live streamed and and, of course, all the jury members. And there were lots of other people involved. But I'm saying that the administration of that court was done by by my son Darcy, my friend Neil, and me. Right? And so what we lacked is we had no we we had the structure of the court, but it didn't sit within anything.
And and although we had lots of support, people came in and out as and when they, were involved, which is completely normal. Yeah. Mhmm. And so the powers that be were somewhat concerned about what I was up to, but at the same time, slightly somewhat reassured because they knew that I didn't have I didn't have consistent, backing from anyone or anything because it was a fluid and very new spontaneous reaction.
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So they they sort of looked over in your direction and went, okay. Well, that's of some concern, but not of great concern at the moment because it's not fully organized effectively. That kind of thing. Is that Yeah. I believe so. Yeah. Yeah. I think that I think that's I think that's a pretty accurate summary. Yeah. And so
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but I I really caused merry help in Devon. I mean, all of the pals that be in Devon know exactly who I am, and in other parts of the country. And so for one woman, I, you know, I I caused a huge disruption to their system. And that's how I know the power of a trial by jury. Because in effect, it wasn't me. All I did was create a title, and all I did was invite people to participate in action in something. And they did. And the result was incredibly powerful, such that they came out in force and hammered me, absolutely hammered me and my family.
And so at the time, I had no I I didn't fully understand the nature of the beast. But now, obviously, again, I didn't realize that what I was doing was so powerful. You see, you know, sometimes we take actions. Right? And we and we don't really fully get what we've done until we're in the impact. Right? And that is part of our that is, I believe, part of, the reason that we're here. Because if we're not here for that reason, then what the hell are we doing here? There there can't be any other reason but to make mistakes and to do you know what I mean? Not not I mean, not stupid, but but sort of test things out and see what happens. All entrepreneurs, you know, all creative people, if they don't if they don't push the boundaries, you know, then then they can't expand. They can't we we don't create anything. You know, it's coming back to the children, the the three year olds, how creative they are and how that gets knocked out of us. Well, that's purposefully done Because if we're creative, they can't keep us in our box. They can't keep us enslaved, and we wouldn't be in the pickle that we're in now. Right? Yeah. But because our creativity has been bashed out of us, and I I was one of the lucky ones that I went I during my school years, I was allowed to, express myself. I was the, you know, the quirky kid at school, the creative, the the drama, queen, or whatever you wanna call it.
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So I didn't have that. You don't get stage fright. You don't get stage fright. Right? Yeah. Or if you do, you know how to contain it and deal with it, and you accept it as part and parcel of the process. Right? I mean, when you were selecting a jury, what the jury selections, the the juries, how did you go about was there some criteria, some kind of, you know, I don't know, framework for going who's gonna be on the jury? Do you just go out and find people at the chip shop or I didn't I didn't go out and find anyone.
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Right. I I don't select the jury. Yeah. They select themselves. So, basically, there was notice put out. Everyone and anyone was invited. And when people came through the door, we would basically make an announcement. Okay. Look. We need 12, jury members. Would anyone like to be on the jury? And people who wouldn't like to be on the jury can sit in the public area, and it was just like that. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. Okay? And, there was, there was a a sort of oath, if you like. There was an agreement, that everyone who was, on the jury would do their best to be aligned with each other and, and reach, a verdict, to uphold, the orders or not as the case may be.
And that was it. It was it it it's such a beautiful experience to be I've never been in a jury trial myself because, obviously, I've been the one that's organized it. You know? Yeah. But watching people come in with all their with with all their, repression, that that is on us, the controls. You see them all there, and you see people nervous and excited at the same time. And then you see them unraveling during the process, and they really get that it really is down to them. You know, I am there as an adjudicator, so my role is to make sure that things are going smoothly, that people have put forth their evidence, the evidence is on the table, to encourage the jury trial members to ask questions.
Everyone on the jury trial has a notepad, to oversee their discussions, when they break for you know, to make their decisions and all of that. And you see people just literally coming alive during that process. And by the time it gets to the the head, a judge, which will have been selected by the jury members, speaking, their verdict, these people are just shining. It's just incredible. And and all of them, you know, without we've never ever had anyone who has completed jury service, not be happy. They've they've they've they've been shaking. They've been excited. They've said they've never had an experience like that before. They've done jury service in the legal, and it was rubbish. Yeah.
They are they are empowered. They get their power back because they've had to make decisions over often very complex, cases and, you know, situations. They've had to listen carefully to everybody else in the group.
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You know, it's just amazing. And it and it was so it was such an incredible Yeah. As you're describing it, I'm getting a sort I'm getting I'm feeling sort of slightly nervous as I'm listening to you. I'm getting a real sense of what it must be like for people to to do it it sounds it's not like those wonderfully contained jury things that you see in all the detective things and TV series and stuff like that where they're all sat there polishing the nails and they're all a bit bored. Yeah. It's it's like I was just thinking it's like raw law. It's just direct. The people turn up. They're guided. They get together. They go, oh, boy. We're really in charge. I mean, that really comes across as you're describing that.
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They really It's wonderful, honestly. Yeah. It's beautiful. I'd like to see that. It's beautiful. I would. I wouldn't mind being on a jury. It is something yeah. It is something to see, and, you know, people came from across the country. I mean, that was the wild thing as well is that everything I did I'm really bad at marketing. And,
[00:56:30] Unknown:
I'm not to media and all that. You got at least 12 jurors. Obviously not.
[00:56:36] Unknown:
You know? Yes. What well, yeah. But I have this thing where, it's it's it's kind of like people just I I say I'm like a magnet. You know? If I do something, people just turn up. And, it's nerve wracking because if you've done your marketing, right, if you've done your social media and if you've done your this and your that, you know, you've got some sort of guarantee even if it's not a complete guarantee. You know? Mhmm. But I was just completely flying by the seat of my pants in terms of people showing up. But they always did, and it always you know, and things always work. And we'd go to different places, and we went to Brighton. We we we we, convened a trial by jury court in Brighton. We didn't know anybody there. We didn't have any contact. It was just crazy. And we just put the property in there. It's just down the road from me.
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I do I feel as I've missed the best show in town, the way you're describing it. Well, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's just,
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really just amazing how people come together. And it's so different because, obviously, in the legal system, well, for a start, you're you're you're only a legal fiction. You're not you're not actually well, actually, you're not a legal fiction. You're what's called a natural person Yeah. Which is, a legal fiction with, some rights, duties, and obligations. You're given a level of agency because they want you to do something. They want you to do, what the judge tells you to do, and not what you think largely. So this you know?
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You can make your own mind up as long as the judge agrees with us, as long as it goes along with what the judge wants. Yeah. Exactly. That that goes yeah. Exactly.
[00:58:10] Unknown:
So it's just completely different, you know, and it's it's super exciting. So what's happening now in, this country is that Sukar, who's the lady chief justice, she wants to get rid of all trial by juries.
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Boo, Tasooka.
[00:58:27] Unknown:
Yeah. Boo. She wants to get rid of all trial by juries, and her, and her justification for doing so is they have 80,000 criminal case backlog, and there's absolutely no way that they can get through them. Therefore, they're going to rely on a single judge who will be, entitled, probably not really a judge anyway Mhmm. And who wants to launder every man and woman that comes before him on the whole.
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It there will be a way to judge it. So
[00:59:01] Unknown:
fantastic. What could possibly go wrong? What could possibly go wrong with it? Possibly go wrong. Nothing. What could possibly go wrong? Right? We'll end up with twenty five percent of the population in jail like they have in America. So, yeah, scary scary times. But Wow. The exciting thing about Sue Carr and her proposition is that it's she's given us a golden opportunity here. And that golden opportunity is for us to revive every county across England of of which every county has a wonderful flag
[00:59:36] Unknown:
that we know Now you hold on to that. Yeah. Hold on to that because we're in the after the break, we're gonna just take a short musical interlude. Mhmm. Yeah. It's the top of the hour. We're just getting to the end of the first hour, and I think that's a natural sort of
[00:59:50] Unknown:
that's that was just such a am I almost exhausted listening to you? Honestly, that was such Can I can can I ask the audience to do something while we're on? Of course. You can. I don't know whether they'll do it, but but you've asked them away. Them a little task. I'm gonna set them a little task. I want anyone who's listening to know what county they're in Mhmm. And what their flag looks like. Because I bet there'll be some people watching that do not know because I didn't know. I didn't even know I was in England. I thought I was in The UK.
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I'll leave it there. That's a good one. So those of you who are in the rumble chats, hi everyone. I've been looking, but I've just been so absorbed listening to Hannah. And in the YouTube chats, type away like Billio, we're gonna take a short break. I'm gonna ask Eric because Eric's just been sat there probably just his eyes are melting or whatever. So, Eric, I'll bring you I'll bring you in after the break. That's right. I'm sorry, but you're okay. I know what my county Yes. I I know what my Hartford flag is. That's good. We got we got to bring that in. We we we're gonna take a little short musical interview from Daniel Bostock. You inspired me, Eric, with your song to watch from the other day.
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Oh, yes. Yes.
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And, I'm I'm here with Hannah Badder. You're listening to, WBN three two four. We'll be back after this short musical
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And hi, everyone, and welcome back. The wonderful Daniel Bostock there. I've played that before, but I play it a lot because it's such a groovy little tune and the lyrics are fantastic. I'm here with Hannah Bader and with Eric von Essex. Eric, how are you doing? You okay? Mustn't grumble, and I've been looking for looking for the art for sheer flag on the main, advert you got from the show, and it's not on there, I don't think. Oh. Because it's it's a mistake. Well, that's a real That's a mistake. We we put it together as quickly as we could but we will get into all the flags I think in this second half. There've been a few people commenting in the thing. Norfolk says, Stephen.
It's fifth from the bottom right. Well done. That's fantastic. You can't find the Hertfordshire one. And Gary, over in YouTube says, hi Gary, says Warwickshire. Crikey. I don't even know. He doesn't even know. Of course, Hannah being a Yorkshireman, I know that ours is the dirty great white rose right in the middle of the flag and, but I'm down in Sussex. We have, I think it's three birds that Sussex has, although they have a different flag for West Sussex over East Sussex. So I've been in both of the Sussexes today. I'm currently in the West, but I was in the East earlier this morning. So there we go. I have to tell you, after we we talked the other day with regards to flags and we're gonna get into this flag thing, this is bringing it right down into sort of, you know, right onto the high street. We we've got a couple of really pretty nice avenues here in this little town.
One's actually called Grand Avenue and I suppose for a little seaside town it is pretty grand. It's about the road's about from house to house, it's probably about a 120 feet wide. It's pretty big, you know. And it it was it's obviously a street that was done probably the late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds. It's got these many of these sort of fine old Victorian Edwardian houses still there that are looking grand. Of course, they've knocked a few down and put up the, usual square blocks of flats, the sorts of things that drive me and Eric and many of our listeners crazy, this sort of monolithic, you know, brutalist architecture. So, unfortunately, they've wrecked a bit of it. But as I was walking up there the other day after our conversation, I'm looking at this and I'm thinking, good grief. If we had a flag fluttering in every single one of these gardens at the end, it's gonna change it. And just to let you on a personal level, I'm in the process of, trying to stop my son with a chainsaw, wreck all the trees. We've got to trim all these trees down in our garden. But I'm looking at them and I'm thinking, okay.
I need a flag on each of the three corners because we're on a corner plot. So I'm getting all flaggy. How after I've talked to you. Yes. I'm getting very flaggy in my head. So,
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Yeah. Sorry, Paul. I'm wrong. I'm wrong. It's top right second dinner. I'm terribly sorry. It's my fault. Yes. It's top right second. It's the stag in a shield with the wavily waggly lines, but you haven't got, Bowl though isn't a county, the Fockem flag there. So there we go. No. But it's a separate country.
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It is. We'll just have to get the Fockem County flag. Yeah. It is. The Fockem Hall flag, of course, will will have to flutter in the breeze somewhere if that's the correct phrase for it. We'll have to get it fluttering. A bit of a fucking flutter. Yeah. Absolutely. We've got to get that sort of that.
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It's an unusual flag. It's a pair of bloomers. Is it really? Yes. That's the fucking flag. You salute to a flare pair of bloomers. Yes. It's got a picture of Kenneth Williams on it grinning going off or whatever. Lectern.
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It's a typical English county flag. They are wonderful. Look, there's someone wrote early on as well. It's great to see the English flag, which is the white dragon. If anybody wants to go and do a search, you find out it's an ancient Anglo Saxon flag, the white dragon.
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I thought it was Welsh. I thought it was a Welsh flag. Love it. Is it? No. What about the Welsh and green? That's the green.
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Yeah. Yeah. The green They're red on green, aren't they? They're dragon's red on green. Yeah. And ours is white. White dragon. Yes. Yes. Yeah.
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Love it. Absolutely love it. Can I just say, Eric, your bloomers would be your family crest for Fockem Hall? It would be your family crest. So
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yeah.
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Yes. That's a good idea. You can have your you can have your family flag, and then you can have your county flag, and then you can have your English flag. So you can have three flags all flying at the same time.
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And mine costs half a nickel, you know. You can have a half a flag, and you buy for half a nickel. Sorry. I mean, and if I wanted to be a sort of South Coast embassy for Fockemall, you could I could get a Fockemall flag, and we could, you know, we could say that we're an embassy out here down here on the South Coast for you. That's right.
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That's right. Yes. Excellent. That'd be good, wouldn't it? But the thing is, when we rode into battle years ago, we had the, coat of arms, didn't we? And and the crests as they as they, you know. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good idea. I like that. Because people like Don't you think they they instantaneously
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switch so many circuits on the flags. And, you know, we've talked about it here not in any one particular program, but there's that phrase that symbolism will be their downfall. You know, they've buried a lot of their lies. Mhmm. Sorry. They buried a lot of their lies in symbols expecting you to not figure it out. It's like a hidden language that they put in coats of arms and everywhere, but the symbolism is it's key because it's so fast to sort of switch circuits on in your head and in your heart particularly. And, you know, with the battle flags, it's synonymous with staying alive, literally. I mean if you didn't rally around the flag in the past where the rest of your mates were, you ran a very strong winds of getting hacked down, you know, you as you tried to try it was about yeah you you had to get there You had and you had to defend the flag because it's a signal going out across the battlefield. I often used to think about this. I mean, with modern warfare, they've got telecommunications. Suppose everybody calls each other up on their mobile phone and go, hey, say, Larry, we're getting shot out over here or whatever they say, you know. But in the old days, there was none of that. Right? There's none of that. Right?
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Hello. We're being shot at. Yeah. Imagine it. You're gonna feel this this this 25,000
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men hacking pieces at one another. If you can't see that flag, you're a goner. You've gotta see it. That's why they used to hold it up. You go, you've gotta have it over here because we don't know what we're doing. Otherwise, we're all lost. So it's it's friendly fire. So it's alright. You know? Terribly sorry. We just shot you. Tory. You know? Sorry about that, ladies. Yeah.
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Sorry. Got the giggles tonight. But what about I have no idea. What about what about selling a bandana? Which you can wrap around your head like a like a Japanese do. So when you go into Coles love it. You put your bandana with your county sign on the front. Wrap it wrap. You think how intimidating that will be? Very intimidating. Yeah.
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Yeah. I mean, there's a lot to it. So We've done some of that. We've done some of that. Yeah. We've mentioned we've got a national flag, which is the white dragon, which is just fantastic that it taps into all the old stuff. I love that. It's really, really good.
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And it's Kids would love the kids would love the dragon because it reminds them of Harry Potter. And regardless of what you think about Harry Potter and the Lord of the Rings and that kind of thing, We've got to appeal to the offspring, the younger generation. We we we want them to get involved in this, you know, in this reconvening to land and, soil jurisdiction in the court. And we start with the flags, and we start with creativity. And the the dragon flag is just such an exciting flag. I definitely would have one of those flying in my garden.
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What about national anthem, though? Because we're gonna need a new one without royalty. And I was thinking of the goons, the Are we are we getting rid of royalty, are we, Eric? When did that happen? Are we getting rid of them? I think they become, when I'm when I'll become the overall dictator I mean, leader, yes. They would be going. Yes. So, why would I have Charles the turd there? No. No. No. We we'll find out who is the descendant of Harold because he's buried quite close to where I live. Harold, apparently, allegedly, in Waltham Abbey.
So Harold, you know, so we find out his relatives. I mean, he must have had relatives. So we find out who's the descendants of them. It's probably some bloke who's a lavatory attendant or something. Yeah. Oh, no. We don't have a lavatory attendants now. Now. It could be, could be missus missus Ethelbert up in up in sort of Tyneside or somewhere who's a direct descendant. So she'd be the queen.
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So so including Fockham, we well, we've got 39 counties, and then we've got the Principality Of Fockham or whatever it That's right. Might be next week because it might be something else next week, which is fine. It's got a fluid sort of status, which we don't mind. So we've we've got county flags. We've got family flag. Mhmm. And and we've got a West. Yeah. We've got the flag of England. That's right. Yeah. Not The United Kingdom because
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there is
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no. We don't have that. No? No.
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No. We don't have it, do we? No. Would you like to know why?
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Yes. I would like to know why. Hannah, we would like to know why. Please tell.
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Oh, god. Right. Okay. Don't quote me on this because, you know, I'm I'm only a lowly workwoman from the North. But, well, to my understanding, I have been looking at the amazing work of a lady called Anna Von Ritz and her team. And, I've learned lots and lots from her. She's got a well, it it it looks like a book, but it's not a book that you can buy. It's a sort of PDF that, was printed out for me to read. And, she, is talking a lot about America and, their situation. However, a lot of the things that she talks about can be, you know, sort of, interpreted to situation here.
Right. And so what I learned from this amazing woman and her team is that The UK is a political union. It is not a landmass. And so there is no land called The U The UK, or even called The United Kingdom. It is nothing more than a political union. So anyone who thinks that they're in The UK or they've spent their life living in The UK, they they have been they've spent their whole life believing that they live somewhere that in fact they do not live because they live on England or Ireland or Scotland or Wales or, you know, whichever, country, that they were, born on or whichever country that they, are living on.
And, this is clearly, absolutely ridiculous situation where, The UK, corporation, have tried are trying, actually, to foreclose on the land of I'm gonna just focus on England for the moment because, you know, that's that's where I am. Mhmm. But they're trying to what they're trying to do is, they're they're in in legal terms. They're in adverse possession, which means that because they've brainwashed us all into thinking that we live in The UK and that we're UK citizens, which, we are, but that's something that needs to be sorted.
They, what they're aiming to do is absorb England, and then, make it their land, really, and take it from us. That's the, the the the plan.
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Mhmm.
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And every time somebody goes to register their newborn, their little bouncing bundle of joy, when they do you remember I said earlier the word registration, transfer of title? Yeah. So so when you're born on a land, you are naturally entitled to a share of the land and mineral rights to that land. And I would assert that about three acres wouldn't be an unreasonable amount to be given to that newborn, for that newborn one day to build a house, to grow some veg, to have some animals, and to share the natural mineral rights of this beautiful country. Now through the process of birth registration, we transfer those land rights to a mixture of the monarch and the governments of the day.
And in exchange, the, the people who do the registration take the birth certificate to a treasury, which is any bank acting as a treasury, and they roughly I I reckon they get about a million pounds, for the, birth registration document, and they're told that they have to pay that money back. So they go and invest it on the stock market, in our in our similar titles. And then when they've made the million pounds, they give the money back, and that million pounds is the crumbs of our estate. So our NHS, our education, our, prisons, our everything comes out of those out of those digits, that that million quid that that came back.
And that is a very poor deal because I have no doubt that that, let's say, three acres of land would be far more, valuable than digits, especially given since 1933, we came off the gold standard, and we're using debt notes issued by the Federal Reserve, which has no value other than what we give it. So it's a very bad deal that we've got. And not only that, but because it's, but because we've registered to this UK corporation, we are considered employees of it. And that then minimizes our rights, gives us duties and obligations, and, makes us basically enslaved by whatever the government of the day happens to be.
And the monarch's laughing all the way to the bank because that's how the monarch owns so much of the land. Because every time we register a baby, we've just handed over our portion of the land to a combination of the monarch and, and this government to, to manage without really our consent or agreement because we were not given full disclosure.
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This process of denying people land, did it not begin with the arrival of William the conqueror? Was that the beginning of that process? Because he said, did he not all this land's mine. I'm having it now. It's all mine. And did they use the term crown property at that point? Is that what it is?
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Yeah. I mean, I can't I'm sure you're you're absolutely right. And, ultimately, anyone who gives themselves a title that they are king, they are, all of that all of all of that they have done is they've come in with with a a a gang and taken over land and claimed it as their own. Right? And, you know, and since then, they've become more sophisticated because, obviously, as we've got, well, I can't really say more educated because I don't know if that's actually correct. But Yeah. As we become, let's say, more aware of our rights and more and more, more demanding of equality, it would have got more and more difficult for them to sustain, their theft of, land, their greed, for taking more land than they could possibly ever use.
And so the mechanisms by which they have, robbed us of the land have become, more sophisticated. And the one that they're using at the moment is, fantastic because it's kept us all in bonded slavery, for a very long time. I'm not quite sure how long, but if you look at there's an act called the Seskevy Act. That's 1666.
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That year, they love their numbers. Yes. We know about the Seskevy Act. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. And it coincided with the burning of the city of London, and they loved that too. That's it. I would love to see it. It coincided with it coincided with the most amazing new plans for London just spontaneously arriving just a couple of months afterwards to relay out the entire grid of the city along Masonic lines. But this is all coincidental nonsense that I'm saying. Very coincidental. That's it. Yeah.
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And, of course, prior to that, all births, deaths, and marriages had been registered in the in the parishes. So everything was going to the Vatican. So even before then Vatican. Other yeah. The other people were getting, you know, whatever we were entitled to, which is why they had all the poor houses because, you know, we we we have nothing. But then as as we've come up, you know, through, you know, over the the hundreds of years and, you know, through the system, and we've become more aware that, hold on a minute. This isn't quite fair. Really, is it? And, you know, more perhaps expecting of our share. I don't know if you recall, but they used to be sayings like you're worth your weight in gold.
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Mhmm. Yep.
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So when we were on the gold standard, when there was still gold around, we would actually be worth our weight in gold.
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So if you were a seven pound born baby, you you ought to have got seven pounds worth of gold. That's a lot of money. How much how much Eric, how much did you weigh at birth? Got any idea? How much we how much did you weigh? I haven't the foggiest idea. I know I was there, but I can't really, you know, but I I I, can't say I can remember much about it. I don't know. Sure I was about three stone. I must be owed loads.
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I was three. That's a lot. I don't think it would have been that big. Oh, I was so sorry. I was over two. Pounds. I'm sure when I was I was enormous.
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Yeah. So I'm sure if we look at the records, we'll find out. I wrote tons. Oh, I got Yeah. I was titty. I think I was titty. Witch, you know. But, well, actually, we I mean, as an aside lander. As an aside on the gold thing, Hannah, we there's a little the, they've got this technology. You know, there's always this perception about gold that there's not much of it about or that they give you a figure in the world, but it's it's off the charts, the amount of gold that there is. It's absolutely It's not cool. Where's it going? There's colossal amounts of it in in and around, I think it's Thailand. Thailand has got is just about I've got this. Yeah. Four or 5,000 islands and they have this technology called, is it lidar or something? It's a scanning technology from satellites that can beam into the earth. It measures the frequency coming back and they can detect mineral deposits. So, you know, mining companies are using it for this, aren't they? That makes complete sense.
Apparently, in Thailand, the amount of gold is trillions of tons. Trillions. There's just ton there's so much but, of course, they couldn't they they don't wanna bring it back out because it's gonna go back into this warped system which you're describing. And it's great to hear you describe it. I mean, possibly many of the listeners here are familiar with it. I'm familiar with it but it's I like to hear the way you're describing it. It's it's very useful, all these sorts of things. The United Kingdom. Let's come back to this. The United Kingdom. Yeah. So is this about the is the active when did that is this the union between England and Scotland that began the formation of The United Kingdom?
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Is is that one? If it's England, Scotland, and Wales. Mhmm. So, yeah, there was, yeah. There's it's an act of union. But what I'm saying is, it's it's not about that. It's the fact that The UK does not have any land. It's not a landmass. There's a political entity for control purposes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's just nice. But if you go out in you go out around you and you ask people, where are you from? And they go, well, I'm from The UK. And you go, no. You're not.
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I got Yorkshire. But people
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but do you know what I mean? People people don't know, and people don't know what counties they're in. They don't they have no they don't know about their flag. So these are all the things that I'm really keen. And Mhmm. The reason that the reason because it it people may be thinking, what what's the link between trial by jury courts, and flags? Right? But it's huge because one of the one of the difficulties that we have in what I call the true movement is there's too many chiefs and not enough Indians. Everyone wants to do things, you know, their way. And and to be honest, probably, I I have to include myself in that. No. But
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yeah. Yeah. But the the But there is a way. And the I I I think your point's well made. It's true. The I mean, there's just a every every single person and it's fantastic as well, but we're we're hitting sort of another challenge now. So the the the challenge was hardly anybody knew this stuff. The Internet's been kicking around now for thirty years, and in full force really since nineeleven, you know, it kicked an awful lot of things after that. And so there's a huge number of people now have really been shaken up particularly the COVID thing did that as well. Of course, it's slightly an alarming thing because we we can see their plans in action. But this is a good thing. Now we're at the stage of actually finding which is why I was so interested in having you on, you know, in the conversations is we have to act. There have to be actions. And although it might sound simplistic, get a flag, it's the beginning it's something and it is, but that's its great strength, isn't it? That everybody could do that and then they say they begin to bind in with it spiritually, psychologically, intellectually, mentally, however you want to describe it.
Because what it signifies is that in the county of Sussex where I am or West Sussex or in the county of Lancashire or whichever county you're in, the people of that county are now becoming again we. When they say we, Lancastrians could say we Lancastrians. I want Lancastrians to say that even though I'm from Yorkshire. I still want them to say that. And you know Yeah. We lads from we are the people of Warwickshire and so on and so forth and this something tried. Yeah. Because you you said something in in our pre show chat earlier last week which is Yeah. Right in this sort of bailiwick, I think, which is when people bind together in this way, given that they start to wear t shirts and flags and get Fockham Hall pencils and Yorkshire pencils and Sussex pencils or whatever whatever tut, It doesn't matter what it is. Yeah. It doesn't matter. No. I I think it will absolutely stir the other side up a lot. They will not be happy about that. It will make them very, very unhappy because it's the And nervous.
Yeah. They need to be like they've made us for hundreds of years. The anxiety that they actually poured into our people over hundreds of years is off the charts as they control them and people have still got that. And that anxiety, of course, is understandable but it's also the force that tends to hold a lot of people back from acting. Whereas if the action is, can you buy and fly a flag? Could you buy a t shirt with your county flag on it? That's it. But, well, I've got one of those anyway. Yeah. Not one like this though. This is this is moving in. This is signifying something else. You need to find out what this is all about. This is something so cool. It's a And it's a so involves you. This is your county, mate. You own this. You're a steward of it Twice. Whilst you're alive. Twice.
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England. Yeah. England. The football matches. Yeah. Mhmm. These are this is Joe Public. You see, the thing is with the true movement, we've got all the intellectuals, and we've got the people who've been burnt. We've got plenty of those. Right? Yeah. But what we haven't got is Joe Public. And without Joe Public, it's not gonna work because we need the numbers. We need everyone to have flags in their windows, to be wearing a T shirt, to have in having it in their garden or on their balcony. Yeah. Because the significance of that flag, the significance of that county's flag is tribal.
It depicts the fact that they're on the lands, they're on that county, that they're claiming it. Now at the moment, many, corporate police services and councils are using the county's flags. Okay? They're using those flags because we have not used them ourselves. And why wouldn't they? Right? Because they know things that we didn't know. But now we know the power of the flag and the power of the land and the power of the people in the county. We could start to, you know, merchandise. It literally, I believe. I see this war as something like a Trojan horse, you know, where there's something that seems so, insignificant.
Oh, yeah. You know, they they got a flag. You know? Oh, yeah. You know, he has his mug of tea with his, you know, Norfolk County flag on the front. You know, big deal. Right? But Yep. If you've got thousands of them across every county, suddenly you've got a problem because that will impact the consciousness of the powers that be in a negative way because they'll start getting nervous that we know more even if we don't. Right? Because some of us won't. But we know more than, than we did before. Yeah. And that will make them feel incredibly nervous because we'll be reclaiming our counties and the the wonderful flags. And it's, it's an interactive process. We are a consumer society, so it sort of you know, it it kind of, it it it kind of connects with that.
Now there are many other things that we can do. We can do a declaration to say that we're not UK citizens. We are English nationals. Fantastic. Amazing. Right? Some people may not be ready to do that initially,
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but they might be ready to buy a I'm I'm quite ready to do it, Hannah. Eric, are you quite ready to do it? I'm quite ready to do it. Yes. And are you actually ready.
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Yes. And are you actually saying that, we have council meetings, but without the councils and without the BS of the councils? So we are really telling them that they're they're not in a fit state to rule, but we're taking over. That's correct. Excellent. Well,
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yeah. Well, they don't the thing is they can't they can't ever rule because, basically, the legal system is in the sea in the air. So the court system that that that we're running on at the moment is, merchant law. And, funnily enough, merchant law started with custom, customary rights. So you get these foreign boats coming to the shores of England selling their wares, and you'd get people that couldn't speak each other's language. So they'd have to use sign language. You know? How many oranges do you want? You know? And it would be thumbs up, and it would be smiles, and it would be this, and it would be that. And what happened is the Vatican again, thought, oh, this is a fantastic system.
Why don't we codify it and, and, put it under something called Unidroids and create something called the Uniform Commercial Code, which is all based on merchant law. It's The UCC. The UCC. Yeah. Yeah. It's commerce. Right? But so what we're seeing there is that the most beautiful system in the world can be corrupted. Right? Because merchant law between seamen was, was lovely, and it was really nice and simple. And, again, what we're seeing in the in in the marketplace of Old England is, let's say you have a woman who bakes a loaf of bread and another woman who provided the flour, And, they're having an argument that, oh, she said she was gonna give me a loaf of bread if I provided the flour, and she hasn't given it to me. And the dispute is resolved in the marketplace.
That's a trial by jury. That's a public trial by jury where the people come. They obviously wanna know because we're all naturally nosy. What's going on? Oh, well, you know, I know Sandra. She's very good. She wouldn't lie about such a thing and, you know, this, that, and the other. And and, ultimately, the people around make a decision as to what's how this is gonna be resolved. And the two women agree that whatever, you know, whatever they decide, they'll go with it. And they shaped hands on it, and that's the end of the matter. Right? So that's customary rights. That's customary law. That's public law, and that's customary, rights, customary law over there, down at Seaport.
Okay. So what these people do is they, they inflate and they, create these systems and and and steal from the people and make it their own and and have this exclusivity with the bar and, all the rest of it and wear these ridiculous wigs and clothes to make it look make themselves look very, very important. Well, they do look very lovely, don't they? They do look lovely. Don't they look lovely, their wigs? I know. And and and they and and, well, they look like sheep, don't they? They look like sheep in wolf's, you know, shipwreck. And wolf wolf wolf wolf in sheep's clothing How rude. Which they definitely are. Yeah. And and the funny thing is they're pirates.
They are pirates. And what they do, they operate in salvage. So every time, one of our ships come in because we're considered to be kind of like ships, corporate entities, missus Bader. Yeah. Mhmm. And, so they treat us, like, you know, a bad crew member and, somebody who is, gonna get thrown overboard. And then they take salvage, which could be anything you they can get their hands on, whether it's your baby, your house, your car. You know, they might put you in what I call the bank, which is a jail. Because when they put you in jail, they have unfettered access an an indirect access to your trust. When they take your babies, they have direct access to your trust. So these are the real reasons why all the shenanigans are happening. And the people that are helping to turn this monstrous wheel, some of them know, some of them don't know, and some of them don't care.
And the only way that all of this is gonna change is for the people to to recover their, their, national English national and county, status. Yeah. For the people to, recognize, the distinction between being a UK citizen, and a UK, sorry, English national or or English, national citizen, I think you can be, or or Norfolk, national, or whatever. Yeah. And so for people to do their declarations, and to be sending them to the foreign secretary, which is currently David Lamley,
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for people to Can he read, though? I don't know if he can can he read.
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Well, I mean, they probably don't read this stuff. You know? I mean, I've I've I've sent them a lot of stuff, and, I've sent stuff to Charlevoix. I've sent stuff to Starmer. You know? I've done a lot of stuff, over the years. I've been very, very busy in the in the whole legal and lawful system. Right. But, ultimately, we, the first step, I do believe, is a conversation about where you are. Where are you? You know, what's your county? You know, it it's it's really I think I do believe that it's simple steps, and we can drown ourselves in, complex, ideologies and theories and this, that, and the other.
But what I have come to, and I've done all of those things, is that everything's really simple, and everything is really achievable. And what it takes is, I believe, a business plan, involving an ecommerce site and lots of merch for the counties. I believe that there should be a declaration which people can, purchase and how and get help to complete. I believe that there should be initially one central court, for all the counties. I believe that it should be a court that they, that has to, that that that that makes a charge, a substantial charge.
The reason for that is on a psychological level. I've had people come into my community law courts before and, try to sabotage them on the basis that, they're not proper enough. And They're not proper. Learned They're not proper enough. They? What would make them proper? What do they want to make it proper? Wigs and cloaks. Probably wigs and cloaks and things. Oh, who knows? Yeah. But what I got from that is that sometimes you have to make people pay for something for them to respect it. And so there's there's there's a psychology, you know, involved in this in this plan that I'm, you know, that I'm ruminating on.
And it is,
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Yeah. It's very easy for as you say, we live in this mercantile world. That's fine. We've got stuff. People have been trained on the Internet to just buy stuff and, you know, the delivery vans are all over and they're just dropping all sorts of bits of toot off with everybody. The thing Yeah. You know, it's a great in though for let's say the neophyte moving into the space. Just get some stuff. Is that it? Yeah. That's it for now. Just get a hat, get a shirt, get something, get something. And and they're beginning Sensibility. It is. Yeah. They're beginning the binding process of turning of literally becoming we again. I've you I've talked about it. You know, whenever the word we is used like from the other side, they go we are gonna do this. I'm going what are you only talking about you? And you know obviously they want the whole audience to think that we're all included in this great plan. But it's complete horseshit.
Yeah. You know? So we are gonna sort this out with us. Yeah. For your benefit, it's got nothing to do with us. I'm not even I'm not included in we is a very, you know, misleading word. Everybody just assumes you're included.
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You're not. You're not included. That's true. It's just that it's that little game. That's it. Yeah. Have you have you heard of a chap called Graham Moore of the English constitution party? Just wondering. Yes. I have.
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And yeah, I have. And what I, my thought about Graham Moore is that, obviously, he you know, everything we're seeing, the media's controlled. The mainstream media's controlled. Right? So every message is designed to, makes us feel guilty, makes us feel wrong, makes us feel bad, whatever whatever. Right? And anyone who forms any sort of political party within The UK is a franchise of The UK. So it doesn't matter what form it takes. It's a UK franchise, so that means that The UK corporation controls it. No matter how different it seems to, it seems to be. You know, the saying, same same sift, different package.
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Notice how I didn't say the the the full swear word there, but I think everyone understands what I mean. Yeah. So, you know, it's Well, it's that old adage as well. It doesn't matter which party you vote for. The government always gets in. Always. It's always there. It's a and we've we've talked about it here regularly that there is no political parties cannot solve it because they don't have the power to deliver any of their promises. They're they're all about to find out that there's a force above them like these permanent secretaries I was hearing about today. There's 23 of them. They're in charge of so much. No one even knows who they bloody are. You know, all this kind of stuff. And what's the point of going into their system which they've built thinking that you can change it without it changing you. It corrupts every single person that goes into it is consumed by that demon. They just get completely absorbed into it. Yes. Good men have gone in there and died. Yeah. They go in there and die. Satanic system. It is. To answer your, yeah, to answer your question, Eric, because you you made a very good you raised a very good question, but I didn't fully answer it. In fact, I don't think I answered it at all, which was, are we gonna form our own,
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kind of county councils? Right. Well, Anna Von Ritz uses the word assembly, and I've had mixed reviews on the word because people remember going to school assemblies and them not being particularly pleasant experiences. But, it's about the lawfulness of people, coming together. And so from that position, the word assembly, is quite a useful word. Ultimately, it is the people, that control the service providers. And The UK, corporation is nothing more than a service provider. And what has happened is because we, have lost our way for whatever reason, we've allowed our service providers to become our masters.
And we now need to recover our counties, recover our status on the land, and, and start, putting pressure on them to make changes. And if they don't make the required changes, and that will be something that grows with numbers and people becoming, more sophisticated in terms of, you know, going from perhaps buying a flag to doing a declaration, perhaps from doing the declaration to leading an assembly whereby they take responsibility for making sure that there's perhaps a monthly talk where they can meet with other people in that assembly and say, right. You know, we're not happy about paying for this or that.
We're going to, we're gonna raise some money and hold a trial by jury for the, the land at the land's court and, you know, with all the, bells, whistles, and all the rest of it. And we're gonna invite this council to our court. And if they don't come, well, that doesn't matter. We'll still carry on and do it, and then we will let them know what our orders are. Now I did that. If we go back to the first hour of the show, this is what I did. And it was hugely, hugely powerful, but what I didn't have is the numbers backing it up. And that's what we need. We need the numbers, and we need some level of structure.
I think the most important thing that Anna Von Ritz's work has taught me is, I I did something called an affidavit in Demura with a good friend of mine, Stuart. I don't know if he's watching, listening to the show today. He's brilliant. His knowledge of, law and legal is just amazing. And, we did this document that we sent to, the prime minister and the birth registrar, lots of different people. And it was good. It was a very, very good document. But what I've seen with the Anna Von Ritz declaration is it just goes back 10 steps further, and you've got various, references to various pieces of legislation that prove that we are considered legal fictions or natural persons and that this, trust exists.
And the process is a reconveying from The UK citizen status, which which was which has been put on us from our birth back to the land. And so I think that that's a really powerful document. And I think that enough people do it, it will start to, level things up quite quickly Yeah. In this country. And the fact that they're getting rid of trial by jury courts in their in their in their merchant courts, in their admiralty courts, in their ecclesiastical canon, based courts is really great because it gives us the perfect excuse to reconvey trial by jury courts on the land. And if they have anything to say about it, well, for a start, they cannot stop us because they've got limited jurisdiction.
And, ultimately, we can turn around and say, well, oh, well, you don't have trial by juries anymore, and we don't think that's right. So, you know, we can start transferring. Can you imagine this? We can start requiring transfers from the family court where they're stealing babies day in and day out to a trial by jury court. Names and all of that can be protected. You know, it can be child a, child b, whatever, you know. So that can be dealt with. And you get a whole trial by jury, deciding on that family's, position rather than one judge and a whole team of people that have an economic interest in that family's demise.
That's a game changer. So that's what I'm envisaging, you know, for the future. And it I can't do it alone. You know? People need to connect with what I'm saying and say, yeah. I want that too. I want this to happen. I want it to happen in my lifetime. This is possible, and help me to make it happen.
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Also If you want to yeah. If you I would just Sorry. If you wanna call into the show, by the way, I'm just letting everybody know. I I know I say this each week, but we've got the lines are open. I opened them up at the beginning of the second hour. If you want to call in and you're in The UK sorry if you're in England or Scotland bloody hell old habits die hard if you're in the if you're in the Disunited Kingdom place, the complete mess, then you can call in. The number to dial is oh, it's come gonna come around on the screen in a second. I'm just waiting for it to come. I can't even read it out. Where is it? It's actually on the screen right now on Rumble and YouTube. You'll see it. Okay. The UK number is 03330110616. That's 03330110616.
And then you have to enter in, a little sort of code at the end of it which is 5432323Hash. I know it's a bit complicated but that's the way you can do it. Or if you want to come in over the Internet, go to paulenglishlive.com forward slash call. That's the easiest way. Paulenglishlive.com forward slash call on your browser and you'll come in. We're looking at the screen now and there were some people rocked up in the first half but we were taking calls then but if you want to come in and put a question to Hannah or make a comment or whatever, you're more than welcome to do so. And if you need those information Absolutely.
Yeah, head on over to YouTube and Rumble and just have a look at the screen. It's running across the screen right now. Eric, sorry about that. No. No. No.
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It's just it's your show, you know, and it's important you got that out. Well, I'm going to say my granddad, when I was very young, used to say to me, watch out for the infiltrators. And when I was young, I didn't quite understand what he meant because, he was born in 1888, and I think he joined the Labour Party in nineteen o seven when it was set up. And he saw how it was infiltrated in the nineteen twenties and thirties. And it's only when I got a little louder than I realized what he was trying to tell me. Because when it was first set up, it was really not much to do about socialism because I think that was going to tackle usury, and that went straight out the window when it was infiltrated.
But he he he actually saw the infiltrators. And my, he also served, soup at the Jarrow Marchers, so he tried to help in that. What about infiltrators? What are we gonna do with them? How are we gonna iron them? Well well, they're all they will always be, Eric. They'll always be infiltrators.
[01:49:55] Unknown:
You know? I mean, they'll always be it it's it's kind of interesting, isn't it? But, I mean, I I believe that I I've gone through my life believing that most people are good, and I still do believe that. I think there's a lot of good people doing bad things as well. You know? Like I said, there's people working in councils that have no idea what they're participating in. There's people that work in the, judiciary. And what they've done now is they've put all those sort of people, in offices well away from the courts. Mhmm. There's there's people, even judges, no doubt, that really, are deeply unhappy about what they are, participating in. There's gotta be some people out there that, you know, really, really, are kind of trapped.
There's the the the the police. I mean, the police are nothing more than private, foot soldiers. They're carrying weapons, which is against the law of this land, and, they have no clue, who they're working for. They're certainly not working for the people. Their role is a peacekeeping role, and they are definitely not peacekeeping. No. So, you know, it's it's all pretty screwed up, and there's a there's a lot of people that are being misled, including myself. I was one of them. I did my law degree. I was completely brainwashed. You know, I have my children, taken because I reported a crime. I jumped through every hoop. I was a very good little slave, got my kids back, had no idea what what actually was going on. You know? So I have no doubt there are thousands of people, millions of people in that position.
Now it is the duty of the people that do know to start to have gentle conversations with these people and let them know what they act who and what they actually are because somebody's gonna wake somebody else up. It was John Little for me. John Little said to me, you know, this is what's actually going on. And, you know, though the the blinds were off, and I start seeing things as they really are. There's always a few bad people at the top of every system, you know, who will you know what I mean? It will twist it. But, I genuinely believe I believe that we can reconvey half of the police force of this country to the land jurisdiction, and that will completely destroy the legal system. It will completely destroy the the the debt slave, the bond slave system that we're currently in. It will shrink it to nothing.
So there's there's some really big potential with this declaration and with the reconvene of these people and, you know, taking up these counties, it's huge. And it's so simple. And I'm I'm up for that because I've done I've done all the headbanging stuff. I've done all the complex stuff. I've been to every, you know, the highest courts in this country. I still work in the courts, and, I do lots of things. And I always look for where there is remedy. And, you know, I believe the remedy is with the people, 100%. It is with, it is with the ones that are shouting England, where they go to the football matches. You know, ordinary people that, are are are have been in this in this mire throughout their whole life and deserve better.
I agree. A 100% agree with you. Do is start it's it's just talking to them about where where simple conversations. What county do you live in? Or have you seen the flag? Do you know what it looks like? You know? Simple, simple things. And I I I believe it would be a rapid turnaround.
[01:53:31] Unknown:
Yeah. I think what you're promoting is optimism, and this is what we need. Because social engineers have have actually drained us of optimism. And this is why we see so many people walking around looking shabby, looking sort of uncouth, looking just down all the time. But one thing I was going to ask you, am I right in saying that Yeah. Gypsies do not register their children at birth, and that's why they can drive around in vehicles untaxed, un MOT'd, no insurance, and get away with it. Am I am I talking am I talking a load of bovine excrement? Yeah. No. Is that correct? No. You're not. No. That well, that well, basically, the traveling community,
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because some of them don't like to be called gypsies, but the traveling community are the freest people on the land. And I absolutely love the traveling community because they actually teach us how we should be living. Now some people, treat them like their men, and I think that's a disgrace because these are people that have their own culture.
[01:54:35] Unknown:
And, they are But you're talking about hang on a minute. You're talking about this difference between sorry. I didn't mean to cut in, and please excuse me if I sound rude. But there are Didicois and there are Gypsies. And the Gypsies can't stand the Didicois and vice versa because the Gypsies are are a culture. The Didicois are just the ones on the edge.
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That's the thing. Okay. Well, I I I don't know. I I can't say I I could differentiate, but all I can tell you is that my experience of, the gypsy community or the traveler community, depending on what they what their preference is to hear, is that their offspring are so free. I mean, I I love nothing more than to see 40 caravans coming up onto a public park and, you know, and all the kids are out all all hours of the day and night, and they're dancing and its radio's on and, you know, it's just alive. And I think that we need to take the lead from these people because they are free. And I tell you what, they know the law better than any of us because they are the law. They are the we are the law. And so what you did you have you seen them with the police? I mean, they they they railroad the police because the police know that they know. Right? So when the police go to visit them, when they've, you know, when they've all pulled up at some public park somewhere, they're they're so careful.
And, and, you know, the the the men and the women and the and the the offspring, you know, they come out, and they talk very directly, you know, with the police. And the police are like, well, leave them alone because the police know in that moment that they are outnumbered. They're they're outnumbered, because there'll be a lot of them, a lot of caravans, a lot of, travelers or gypsies and offspring. But they're also, they're outnumbered in terms of skill because those people know the law. And they'll say to them, oh, you know, we yeah. Obviously, yeah, we were retired. It's you know, we can we can stay here, or we can we can do what we want here. And and and there and there's there's it's that balance because, of course, that park will also be used by the people in the community. And and it's a we all have equal rights to use that park.
But they usually will move on. And, you know, their caravans are usually immaculate. Sometimes they will leave rubbish. Sometimes they won't. But perhaps some of that is about how they've been treated by society, you know. Are they they're just wrong. Something I yeah. Yeah. Sorry. I'm sorry. Something I really wanted to do actually when I yeah. Sorry. Go on.
[01:57:12] Unknown:
On. No. Please carry on. I I I I I just got a little comment to make about gypsies, so please carry on.
[01:57:18] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. Well, something that I was really passionate about doing, when I, left the bar and when I got derailed on my university thing, I wanted to, lead, a traveler community. It was a charity. And I wanted to be the spokesperson, spokeswoman for that for that charity. But unfortunately, they were they they were offering me a ridiculous amount of of money. I just couldn't, you know, couldn't manage on that money because I'd spent so much money on my law degree and, you know, going to the bar and everything. I was hugely in debt. It's like $60 debt. And they offered me, like, $12 a year, which I was like, I won't be able to do that. But I really wanted to do it, you know, because I felt, just had a kind of instinctive connection to the fact that somehow these people were doing something right and, you know, that they were free.
And, and that that was exciting, you know, for me. But, unfortunately, I wasn't able to, you know, to, follow that through.
[01:58:17] Unknown:
But, yeah, I I you know, they're they they're really, our hope for the future, I believe. Can I just how are you fixed for time, Hannah? How how do you wanna play this? We're kind of up to the end. It's nearly 10:00. You're more than welcome to stay, more than welcome. I mean, you know, but I'm just thinking of you and your time. So if you want to keep on talking, we can we can definitely allow you to do that. I'm absolutely loving this. But, how are you fixed for time? What would you like to do? I have to be civil about this. I
[01:58:43] Unknown:
I I just want to, ask a few questions. Is this is this, is this recorded, this interview? Yes. So is are people able to, listen to it after?
[01:58:55] Unknown:
They are. There'll be a full recording on YouTube. There'll be a recording on Rumble. There's a podcast paulenglishlive.com about forty minutes after we've finished. The whole show will be as an audio file for people to listen to. So, yes, they can listen to it and download it and consume it at their leisure. Yeah. Amazing. Absolutely. Amazing. I'm sort of what I'm what I'm sort of present to right now is that I hope that this has been largely,
[01:59:23] Unknown:
given that we're we're clear that we are in a war with our, with the people that we employed to, look after us, they have become, our masters. And that the fact is that the only way that we can, re reverse, back to the right order, which is that that we are the master and that they are the service providers. Right? Yeah. Is by the people, doing their declarations and, you know, engaging with their counties and engaging with their flags and other merchandise. I think that, I think that's a good place to kind of end because not end, but just just for now. Because what I'm thinking is we've given people a lot of food for thought, and I hope that we will, you know, that we will have, other opportunities to, to move the conversation forward. And in in terms of the work that I'm doing with the, what I'm doing with the English Cancer Assemblies is I'm actually, reviewing, the structures, which come from, most most of it, as I understand, comes from the work of Anna Von Ritz over there in The States. Yep. And, so that's what I'm doing at the minute. And and where I've where I've ended this kind of conversation is where I'm at in terms of my, knowledge. I've got three or four chapters of her,
[02:00:51] Unknown:
of her work left to review. I just have to interrupt you briefly. Okay? Yeah. Because we're just at the top of the hour. So I just wanna say goodbye to all the listeners on, WBM three two four. We're carrying on here running for another hour, probably not without Hannah, but, on Rumble and YouTube, myself and Eric will be having the, the after show. But we'll be back here on WBN same time next week, 3PM US eastern, 8PM in The UK. Hopefully, you'll be able to join us. Have a cracking week, everybody, and, we look forward to you all learning how to buy your flags.
And, that Yeah. That's it. So we've just said goodbye to the NBN. They've just dropped the feed, but we're we're still here. You can still wrap up for a bit. We don't we're not. Amazing. Thank you. So what I was what I was thinking
[02:01:36] Unknown:
what I was thinking would be really, I think, really good is that you and I, Paul, are gonna have continue having conversations. And and I have a talk, on the August 11, which I hope that you will plug for for, for us.
[02:01:52] Unknown:
Fish Island. That's gonna be Monday, August 11, 7PM star. I'll put the details in the show description when I edit the YouTube and the rumble files. Amazing. And we'll put it Amazing. We have a we have a Telegram group with a couple of 100 people in it, so I'll publicize it in there. Fantastic. And there are there are other people that are the same to know about it. Yeah. And and I might even meet Eric in real life. He will, of course, be dressed in the Fockem Hall customary costume. I don't know why what it is, but I'm looking forward to seeing you. Eric in real life. I would I would love to see I would love to see his fam I would love to see his crest. Yes. That would be amazing. Really? Oh, it would be embarrassing now.
[02:02:34] Unknown:
I thought I might get arrested. What?
[02:02:38] Unknown:
What I would really love to do I mean, there's so many things that I can talk about. Obviously, I think you kinda got the idea. Right? Mhmm. But what I would love to do is, maybe book another session in. You know? When I've completed the book and I've kind of completed my analysis and and really kind of crystallized my thoughts in terms of, you know, whether I'll be joining the English county's assemblies, because that's where I'm at at the minute. I'm on the sort of, you know, I'm on the sort of threshold, and I'm thinking, well, do I come in? And if I if I go in, then I've gotta follow the structures that they have in place. Yeah. Or, do I say, well, I'm not sure about this, this, and this. And if it doesn't change, I can't participate in that system. However, I'll take the bits that I'm aligned with
[02:03:27] Unknown:
and and take it from there. It's it's great to know that you go through that similar process because we're all looking for something that ticks every box. And we're and it's almost as if we're never gonna find that and there's somewhat inside every single one of us there's a there's a sort of cutoff point you go that's too I can't be around this anymore now that's too much. But there's there's many things that people can contain and I think that it's required in these early stages because it's not gonna go the way that it works in the picture in our head. I know how I want it in the picture in my head and I want it to go that way but I want I I'm not gonna meet it that way. I'm gonna meet it in different forms. They're gonna be people at meetings that I think are amazing. There are other people I will have a lesser opinion of because of what they're saying. There are people that do disrupt in meetings. There are people that make them flow. It's all these sorts of things. It's very delicate when you're gathering us together, our long together. Yeah. We're so stubborn. We're all right. We all know better than everybody else. I include myself. Right? No. He's wrong about that. Yeah. And and in the end you go, it's irrelevant to some degree whether you're right.
Because if we do not come together, we're not even gonna have the opportunity to argue with one another. These arenas, these these conventions, the places our meeting places won't exist. I just wanna argue with my own people on England. I'm quite happy to argue with them and be proven wrong. Absolutely agree with you. It's fabulous. It's not a problem. Good grief. You just taught me something. I was so stupid. I couldn't see it. Thank you for beating me around the head with a bit of wood and getting it through my thick head. I need to know this stuff. And I think with that attitude there's there's nothing that's in the way of stopping us coming together Move moving forward. As the English in England and as the Scots in Scotland, as the Welsh in Wales and the Irish in Ireland and the Northern Irish in Northern Ireland. All of these things need to be done because it's it's universal to everybody. I mean, we look around, don't we, at the news that's going on and every single one of our nations, including most of the nations in Europe and elsewhere, they're getting hammered by this UCC cult, this mercantile cult, this banking cult, whatever you wanna call it. We all know. They didn't hand Yeah. The money power I call it generally because Yeah. That's the great their favorite tool of their favorite weapon to to wage against us. And this route through and I mentioned it here before on the show and I think I said it to you when we were talking. The guy that taught me a great deal about banking, Ray, said to me very early on, he said the way that we lick this system is through law and obviously it's through the the right law, the righteous law, this one. The land of the people.
Yeah. The law of the people. Yeah. There is and there's another chap that I need to I've actually just you know him because I mentioned him to, to you the other Alan of Salisbury. Now I met him briefly. Alan of Salisbury is my lovely friend, Alan. Yeah. He's great. Yeah. Very nice. I met Alan of Salisbury very briefly at someone's house a few months ago, and it was just a general chat. So I didn't really get to know him, but I've got his contact details, and I know someone who knows him really well. And, Yeah. One of the things that came through in the conversation I just had from a third party was this, link between the word law, l o r e, and law. For law is the tradition of our customs, is it not? It becomes That's correct. Yes. It's our law and and this way that words are just shifted to one side and then create a completely different impression in the crowd so that you can control them is key. Yes. And I know he's very strong on words. We had a wonderful discussion about the team that was Shakespeare, the group that was Shakespeare, to bring into the English language so many new words which didn't exist.
And it's it's absolutely it's unbelievably fascinating and compelling. It's also very important because it's affecting our lives every moment of the day with all this Yeah. Their misuse of these spells. Literally, every word is a spell and they've they're casting a spell on us. Yeah. And you Spelling. I I mean, it's been fantastic tonight, Hannah, because you've you've laid things out in layman's terms and this is the great challenge and people, I don't think, understand what a challenge it is. It's to pare this knowledge down. I've said this here repeatedly.
You talk to the guy in the pub, you go you got this, you got that, yeah you want to do something, yeah I'm in. Great that's what we need bang bang bang. Yes. Let's get going. I don't understand it all neither do I but does it feel good? Does it feel right? Does you is your gut telling you that this is the right thing to do? And it is that's what's going on with everybody right now. They're outraged because it's their experience that this is absolutely sick what's taking place and they're right and that's you know flags Yeah. Any sort of symbolism that we can use to harness that energy amongst people Yeah. Is gonna be a mighty thing. Very powerful. I I agree with you. Now tell you something. You've done a fantastic job, Anna, tonight because
[02:08:03] Unknown:
you've explained it so simply by describing them as pirates. Fantastic. It's it's one of these things. It's a bit like the invention of the paperclip. You look at it and think, what did neither think of that? But it's it's a fantastic simple description. I mean, I call government mafia. In fact, I think the mafia is probably more honest because at least they give something back to the community. Government doesn't give anything back to the community. So really, what's the difference between government and mafia? There isn't any. In fact, I'd say the gov the real mafia are more honest.
You know? I mean, I think they'd probably do a bad job. But no. Really Yeah. The I think you're right. The power of people, and it's motivating the people. Motivation. That's what people haven't got. They're lethargic.
[02:08:51] Unknown:
Inspiring and rolling. They're what that's right. Making things yeah. Making things easy step by step. You know? People worry about stuff. They worry about losing the the few crumbs of the state. You know? Some people may may be in financial difficulties, maybe single mothers or fathers and, you know, different things and, you know, relying on the crumbs of the state, pensioners and all the rest of it. But it's it's it's our credits. It's our money. There's there's so much. You know, we're we're all actually really quite rich. And and one of the things that I deal with is the breaking is is is shattering the illusion because I I deal with people that believe that they are rich, and I deal with people that believe that they are poor. But, actually, we're all equal because, you know, they're just digits. Right? And to me, it doesn't matter if you've got 10 digits. So you got 10,000,000 digits. It's just digits because it it has no it has no gold it has no gold value. But what we all have is our equal share of the land. And this process that I've been talking about tonight is about recovering our land and standing on our land and, making decisions on our land as a people and getting we we are actually the government ourselves, but what it is is that we've allowed, the separation between we've we've allowed it's it's the master and servant thing. You know?
The the servant has become the master, and that needs to be corrected. And it will be something that will always need correcting because people will always try on. Some people will always try on. Right? And so this is a wake up call that has to happen in our time because moving forward, there always has to be a trial by jury because a trial by jury makes the law. Whatever those whatever that sort of cross section of society in that jury is is whatever the law is at that time because they're creating it. So it's always evolving with society. So it never ever is something that we need to look back on and go, oh, what was that what what was that bloke that wrote the Magna Carta, or or was it the barons, or was it the people? Forget all of that. It's gone. It's his story. Right?
What we have is the land. What we have is the people living on the land. What we have is the counties. What we have are the flags, which I believe according to, my good friend, Dwight, 1842, these, county flags roughly, around that around that era were established. And, they're not going anywhere, and it's they're ours for the taking. And it's time for us to take them and take back our land.
[02:11:35] Unknown:
Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Brilliant. Yeah. I I'm hoping to have a whole series of other little short conversations with you, Hannah, going forward. You don't Yes. You know? And when you're ready to come we can do another long one when you're ready. But I thought Yeah. You know, if I'm speaking to you during the week, I may well record fifteen, twenty minute chats, and I'm gonna drop them into the show here as an insert saying I've just been having a chat with Hannah. Here's, ladies' thoughts on things that have it. It's been Yeah. Been wonderful tonight. I've I've really, really enjoyed it so much because it features to all of this positivity that's required and a can do ness, and we can do this. We can do it. We totally can do it. We can totally do it. Yeah. We can do it. I'll tell you another thing. Yeah. Humor. My attitude is our greatest weapon
[02:12:16] Unknown:
is humor because this is why they're trying to destroy our humor because they're frightened of it. They don't understand it. And it's surprising what you can get over by humor. Now for example, I did a planning objection, 25 page report, but I put humor in it. And, and, you know, and and little things like, you know, it is rumored that, the counselors, are closet violinists. Why can't we, the public why can't their residents see them openly on the fiddle? Now there's nothing wrong in that, is there? So Hello? And that's coming up. I wouldn't understand all that. Yeah. And and and things like, and putting the, for example, where there was open rubbish bins and that, don't complain.
Praise them for, fly conservation. They're, you know, they're helping nature by creating, more flies, which is is good for nature, feral pigeons and things like that. Just keep praising them, you know, and and and and say, this is what I do. I do the opposite to what they think, you know, and, invent a name, you know, invent a sort of a society. Yeah. Like, you know, the the video. Yeah. The the, the fly conservation society, you know, how marvelous it is to have flies around just pollinating the plants. I love that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Head of head of the Blue Bottle Society. Yes. Yes. That's right. And I mean, I I said there were this new estate.
I said, you know, watching, at the moment, we've got fields around us, you know, and, seeing animals mating and eating each other upsets granny. But if it's built on, then we can control the nature by leaving, rubbish bags around and that. And that will whether we can see pigeons, which people like, flies, wasps, those type of things are controllable. So I'm looking at the the positive points of of of an estate, you know, around us.
[02:14:31] Unknown:
That's brilliant. Didn't you get a job as a counselor, Eric?
[02:14:35] Unknown:
Oh, can they come in never in a million years.
[02:14:38] Unknown:
Head of Fuckingham Hall Council. Yes.
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Perhaps you could become a you could become a county assembly leader and do monthly talks and start following the council head on with your with your new founded county flag
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and your quest
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and, you know, go in there head on and deal with these people. Deal with these,
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workers. Fuckums, sorry. Fuckums. No. No. I was happy to say. How well has the watershed?
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Yes. But I like I like what you said, Paul, about the blue we could start the blue bottle society praising them for not emptying the bins. You know? Because they're gonna have, say, two weeks. Gonna have three weeks about bins now. Not two weeks, three weeks out bins. So, you know, a king fisherman will like the maggots crawling out of the bins. So that's gonna be good, isn't it, for fishermen? Look at all the positive aspects. You know? Horrible.
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Well, I think, Eric, you you as the head of the council, the idea that you've got a toilet chain around your neck, you know, they all actually turn around your neck. So if you they pull it, I'll flush. Oh. Trouble is every every time they pull it, I'll flush.
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They pull it out. It's gonna come in.
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Oh. Certainly.
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We have a little voice coming in, Hannah. You see, we sometimes get other voices coming in. I don't know where they come from. Actually, I do know where this voice this is Paul who another Paul, to confuse you Oh. Who's in who's in America right now. And because this show is also picked up by other networks of which Paul handles and goes out to another audience of knowledgeable types. And Paul would like to say something. Hi, Paul. Welcome to the show.
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Hi there. I love that. I love that idea, Eric. That is delightfully cheeky because the biggest problem with these guys is they are, overinflated, with their own egos and their own sense of self importance. And when somebody actually shows them that just a a cheeky response to the crud they come out with, it's it's delightfully wonderful. I love that. I love that. Thanks.
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, I can give you a link to the report I did. And, if you suffer from, you know, if you if you if if, you wanna get off to sleep at night, that'd be good good reading. But, yeah, you'll you'll have a good laugh. And in fact, the local press picked it up, and then the national press picked it up because they said they'd never seen a report like it. But the council was so impressed that when I went to the council meeting, they completely ignored it. Seriously. They just didn't even read it. And, yeah. And, apparently, you're not allowed to speak.
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So, you know, I mean role. It's it's like the judge in the court, you know.
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Oh, yes. Well, who knows? Maybe maybe in our relatively imminent future, Eric and others that are listening, the role of a juror is coming into your life. It would be what you said earlier on about the jury and about the animation of the people and that they are rising up to the highest possible qualities of their behavior, This is extremely inspiring because it's in everyone. It's just completely sealed off, and they're demeaned and put down, and it's complete crap.
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You know? They take it very seriously. They take it really, really seriously. They are amazing. They're just brilliant. When they step into that role, something happens to them, and they are rigorous with the questions. It's just it's completely different from, obviously, a maritime, court Mhmm. Jurisdiction. And, they really come into their own, and they're so diligent in their work. No no stone is unturned. You know? No stone is left unturned with, you know, with their questions and everything, and they just do such amazing work. Yeah.
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The thing that I find, though, I mean, local councils, joking aside, I I find them very immature. Immature. You know, lady speaker, I mean, I I was, I I was in a debate. I was one not in a council, but someone said, you've got to address the chair. So I said, well, hello, chair. Where are you from? And I said, you take the mic. I said, yes. But I mean, that's it. You know? You're a nice chair. But, no, seriously, though, I find counselors to be exceptionally immature in an embarrassing way. I find it embarrassing that they're so immature. Oh, absolutely.
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Absolutely. And, I mean, we can't we brass. We have another caller. We have another caller coming in. Oh, brilliant. Brilliant. Oh. Yeah. I think it's Eli. I think it might be Eli Eli. Eli, I can you hear us? Are you there? I can hear you fine. I'm hoping my sound is okay. We can hear you. Yeah. That's fine. Yeah. Hello. Where are you going? American. Hannah, another another chap from America. Very good dear friend of mine. Eli, hi. Good afternoon to you. Yeah. Welcome to the show.
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Yeah. Yeah. Greetings. Well, you you guys really started a problem here in America when you gave us the idea to have a county sheriff. Okay? Who who is not right? Who is not controlled by the government. Right? Here in America, the county sheriff basically rules the roost that he can tell every, federal bureaucrat to go fly a kite fly a kite. And he could he could prohibit any federal bureaucrat from even entering his county. I don't know if your county's having like, sheriff of Nottingham. Was he that kind of guy? Well Anna, was he that kind of guy?
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Probably. There was, there were sheriffs. There is, there's a peacekeeping act. I can't remember the year, but, basically, there were sheriffs, were created, after the French Revolution, in England, and there were French soldiers wandering around the country. And they created these cherries, to go around. They still exist in Scotland, but not not so much here. They're only ceremonial. But at the time, they were created to go around the country and disarm, these French soldiers that had been in the revolution, and that was their role. Oh. It was a peacekeeping role. Yeah.
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Would there be room, Hannah? Would there be room for sheriffs in the new county system, do you think? Could we bring them back? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I believe so. Yeah. Yeah. Six shooter maybe. Nice star. Big hat. Is it sheriff. Is it is it true, Hannah, that, we do the Brit
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that us, English do have the right to bear arms? Is it true? Well For some people, so it is. From the lawful. We we our home is our castle. We have the right to protect
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our property. But, obviously, we know the repercussions of that would be immense. So at this stage, I would I would air on the side of caution, and I would say, let's get the, the flag going and let's get the counties going and then ease into it. Do you know what I mean? Mhmm. I would like to see the, police officers, which as I said, they're nothing more than privatized, weaponized soldiers for the corporations. Oh, really? I'd like to see them disarmed under that act, that peacekeeping, that peacekeeping act. I can't remember the date of it. But if you put in peacekeeping act, something will come up, and you'll see what I'm talking about. It it is there, and it's never been repealed.
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Well, they're a private corporation, aren't they, the police?
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But there are peace officers. There there's a group that set themselves up. P e a c That's right. Peace officers. Yes. I don't know if you know anything about it. I I was I was gonna go along to I did. See see something about it, but, unfortunately, the person didn't turn up. So so I went to this place. And the first person's supposed to speak about it, they did turn up. So it was pretty good, actually. So we all sat around our conversation and went home.
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I can I can see that? Well,
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it's peace on. I never next to it. It's peace off. Peacekeepers. Yeah. If you can do peacekeepers, I'll just I would have the chef do them is to disarm the groomers and, not again.
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Eli, yeah. Would you like to say something? Sorry. We're we're all speaking at once here. It happens. It's we're all getting very excited. We're having too much fun. Please speak. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Well, the first thing I'd have the sheriff do is go over to Rotherham and disarm the illegal aliens. Yes. That are Yeah. Rotherham. White girls. Mhmm. Yep. Yeah. Rotherham. Yeah. Not not knocking not Nottingham. Rotherham. Right? It's not that far from the town.
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Oh, that is okay. But, I I have some, attire suggestion
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for your your county movement. Like, you know, you're Or an American giving English people fashion advice. Gosh.
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Yeah. That's right. That's right. I sent over a photograph of Danielle Smith, the premier of Alberta Mhmm. Who is leading a secession movement there to get to get away from socialist Canada and globalist Canada. Right? Yes. And she looks fantastic in a cowboy
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hat. Does she? Okay. And you're the 90 Manchester hat? Yeah.
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I used to be ninety Manchester. Cowboy hat's become a universal signature of of this of all our I don't know how. It's not gonna look good in England, though. We've often thought that in England, we should all wear bowlers. We're all gonna wear bowlers, we thought. We thought bowlers were like What's the Yorkshire? The Yorkshire lot could wear caps. They We wear flat caps up north. Okay. Alright. We'd have flat caps.
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Yeah. I can speak on a sandwich. Preserve.
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Yeah. Well, may maybe there's a hat for each county. Maybe certain counties are associated with certain hats. Hannah, are we just keeping you here forever? Have you got a bottle of Shabli to go to? I'm I'm I'm sort of sensitive to the fact it's so much fun that I don't really wanna let you go, but you might need to go. You know? It's just we're all being very rude now and sort of imposing on your time. No. No. You're not. Honestly, no. I am gonna get off. It's really interesting to hear the American accent and, you know, the the guys coming in from America because, obviously, one of the big themes is,
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you know, the global connection, the global family with Anna Von Reets' work and the American connection and the fact that, in truth Common law. Us English us English us English people screwed over the Americans big time. And, you know, we we actually really have to put we have to put things right because we've we've not only screwed ourselves over, but we screwed the Americans over too, or what are the powers that be. And so if we can sort if we can get our ducks in order, that's gonna help the Americans big time. And so it really is our duty to sort this out. You know? It is our duty. It really is. It is. It's our duty. Yeah. Yeah. It is. Yeah. Yeah. So Might might I suggest one more Yeah. One more Yeah.
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Might as might as suggest one more fashion statement, a bolo. You know what a bolo is? No. What's that? No. Charles Road. No. A bolo is a bolo is a Texas necktie, which can be used for various purposes. But it's basically like a a sleeve and a a couple of shoestrings, and you can have any kind of image, like, metallic image or saint the cross of Saint George, your your county symbol, and it would be right in the middle of your neck. Instead of a necktie, it's a bolo. I sent all the images, Pauly.
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Yeah. Can you send us a photo, please?
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Well well, I thought Yeah. That was sent to me. Come on. Yeah. We we we can start we can I mean, anything with the county, flag on it, we can turn it into anything, tote bags, you know, brooches, what you're what you're investing, really anything anything, cravat, scarves? Cravat would be nice. Along with my cigarettes and my cigarette holder, we could all be incredibly posh. What about a deer stalker? Ties, handkerchiefs.
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Deer stalkers. A deer stalker. That's a hat. Like a deer stalker hat. It's, that's what, oh, That's what Sherlock Holmes sports. Sherlock Holmes. Yeah. Sherlock Holmes with his pipe. Yeah. One of those deer stalker. It's a weird looking hat.
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Yeah. It's nice to know that we're moving on to serious topics now sitting such a late hour of the show. Yes. No. I'm not. It's We're making a good impression. We are. We are Yes. I have one. The most important thing, the merchandise.
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We're talking about the merchandise. And that is the Trojan horse, the merchandise.
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And the question that we never we didn't address tonight is the state of Donald Trump's trousers. Is there a tailor in the house that could sort him out? Because I've never seen a man with such a bad pair of trousers.
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So There's about four yards of material there with nothing in it, isn't it?
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In the wind, Jersey's walking along.
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I have I have something notice over here, Eli and Paul. We we notice trousers a lot. We've got a very keen eye on trousers. Yes. And, it's just as a national bias, we're always looking at people's trousers and saying they're not right.
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Well, I I have something on the street. How about trouser braces?
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What were they? With the county emblem running down the brace. Yeah. That would be great. Of course, in America, they call them suspenders. So Oh, I said,
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yeah. Okay. Okay. Suspenders.
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Yeah. That's that's more cowboy attire. But one more item, though. I'm really partial to Robin Hood's hat.
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Oh. Really partial to that. Okay. Actually, in your Eli, with your beard, it would possibly suit you. You got you might have a nice feather that goes with it. You want one of those sort of, you know, merry men in green in the forest hats. We could probably get one sorted out for you. I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. You'd look good. You might be slightly closer to Friar Talk, I suppose, but that that wouldn't be fair of me to say such a thing, but I just did. No. No. Can I get in here for a minute? Let's be polite. But,
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yeah. But, yeah, I mean, all image is everything, said another American of tennis player. Andre. Andre. What's his last name? Not Dawson. Andre. Andre. Yeah. No. No. Andre, he he he won a couple of titles. I just can't think of his last name right. Andre Agassi. Sounds French, but he's actually married. Yeah. So yeah. Every there's everything. Yeah. He impressed me. What's that? You know, that that's a conversation story. What do you what what is that? It's oh, it's a bolo.
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Well, maybe, Eli, when you when you next visit when you next visit England, not The United Kingdom, you never visit you never ever visit. No one's ever been to The United Kingdom. It's just an ethereal nonsense concept. It doesn't exist. Yeah. But when you next come to England, maybe you'll be going driving through streets with flags flying everywhere, people wearing hats covered in county flags, and a completely different sense of purpose about the English because it's required. It's absolutely required. It's our duty to bring it back. Yeah. Actually We're gonna bring it back. We're gonna bring it back. It's coming back. But the, union
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union flag Union Jack flag will be defunct. Won't won't won't it, Anna? Surely, we'd have to have another flag,
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because Union Jack is I mean, I I yeah. I well, I kind of like I like the flag that Paul, had on the, on the radio station, you know, photo. I think that's amazing. I think the the the, I think the younger generation will really take to that. They will. And I think that, I mean, you know, there would be some people that said would state that it was never, truly an official flag for England. But, as we're as we're starting, with a new beginning, I'm I I think that we could get away with it. You know? And, and why not? Because it's just so much more fun than the,
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than the other flags. You know? Let me let me give you the description of it. It says this. The white dragon flag is a historical symbol associated with England, particularly the Anglo Saxons and early English kings. It's often depicted as a white dragon on a red background symbolizing strength, resilience, and the spirit of battle. While not the official national flag, who cares about that, it holds significance as an ancient emblem and is sometimes used to represent English heritage. Bingo. What else do we need? Bam. And you're right that the youth will love it. It's fantastic in t shirts. And I'm I'm as I said, I'm clearing my garden. I'm gonna get the most enormous versions of this, and I'm gonna have them flying at three corners of my garden.
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They're just gonna be there. And I'll take I'll take some video footage and show you all in a few weeks when I've got them up because I want them. I cannot wait. I can't wait. We need to talk to your son as well. Yeah. And because I think we need to involve the youth with all of this. We need to we need to we need to be empowering the youth, and and let it let them bring all their skills to it, because that's how we reconnect them with the land and the sword jurisdiction, and we empower them. So this this this ridiculous situation that we're all in now, where we're in a debt slave and we're all bonded slave system is gone. It's just gone forever. You know?
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I can see football I can see football crowds taking this up if we can get it in with leaders in football crowds so that they're all carrying this white dragon. All no matter what team you support, what county it is, it doesn't matter. You've got two flags. You have a white dragon for for the Anglo Saxon flag as it were of England and you've got one for your county or your team. It doesn't matter. We can get into all of that stuff. All of that stuff we can get into. Love it. Love it. Love it. It's gonna be fantastic. Hannah, it's been absolutely brilliant. Brilliant having alright. One last comment from Paul. Anybody wanna say last words before Hannah goes over to a bottle of Chablis or whatever? Yes. Yes. One one last comment.
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It's as far as the sheriffs, the sheriffs, yes, most of them are, they're elected by the people, but there are a number of places in The United States where the sheriffs are actually appointed. There are other places in The United States where there is no sheriff at all. There are other places in The United States where the sheriff is duly elected by the people, but they are shuffled off to Washington DC for two weeks for indoctrination and whatever else they do. And when they come back, they're wearing the badge of the people and the stripe on the pant, but they are absolutely no better than the policy enforcers that are at the behest of the bankers and
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the corrupt government and the corrupt judiciary. Same with all the same with all the police constables. Same as all the police constables in this country. They start off with good intentions, wanting to, keep the peace and protect the people. They're trained somewhere, and they're brainwashed, and then they come out as nothing more than corporate soldiers, armed corporate soldiers.
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They come out as weapons. And extremely dangerous. Yeah. So so talk to your local sheriff. Find out find out if he actually took his oath to the constitution of your land seriously, find out if he's actually there to protect and serve the people or if he's there to enforce policy. And if he's there to enforce policy, you go to work campaigning against him to put somebody in that office that will.
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Paul Paul. Amen. We do not we do not have any sheriffs now in England. They exist in Scotland. In England, there are ceremonial sheriffs of the county, which are absolutely ridiculous. They have absolutely no powers, or if they have any powers, they do not use them. And it's
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they just don't exist here at the moment. So that's something that we will definitely be looking at. You know what? They're gonna sport the English sheriffs, don't you? And the Americans, of course, have the star, but ours are gonna have a silver dragon. That's what we'll do. That white dragon, I've just thought that's the badge. You're gonna get a silver one. Silver's very Wow. There you go. So we got that and you can get you get your sheriff's badge. It's the gear. They'll all fear the gear. We get the gear out there Yeah. And it's just sending signals out everywhere.
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Everywhere. Absolutely. It's what we need. Absolutely.
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I love it. Well, now, well, there you go.
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Now, gentlemen, we've got to let our dear friend go now because See you, Alice. It's the it's the right thing and polite thing to do. Hannah, wonderful. I look forward to speaking to you in the weeks to come, and we'll do some highlights and stuff like that. And, hopefully, I'll look forward to seeing you up in London on August 11 on that Monday. And we'll Amazing. I will do so. Enjoyed it. Thank you. Thank you, Hannah. Can't wait to have you back. Fantastic. Absolutely wonderful, Hannah. Bye. Really enjoyed it. Bye for now. Bye, Paul. Bye bye. Bye. Bye. I
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was just gonna tell Hannah that god bless. That's all I was gonna say.
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Well, we'll we're gonna have plenty of opportunities.
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Yep. You guys will be so, spiffily attired that everybody will be envious of your whole movement and wanna join. Yep.
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Yeah. That's a good point. That's a very good point. You know?
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I think that ultra smart We've talked about this, haven't we, Eric? We've talked about dress. We've talked about dress. Premasons even. Yeah. You you've mentioned regularly, Eric, the fact that people dress like slobs and stuff like this. And I'm not even blaming them. It's just that they do right now it's not good if we provide it's just true it's it's not good you know we dress like children I include myself at times I'm in tracksuit bottoms too after because it's convenient and easy but I'm telling you if I've got a silver dragon sheriff's badge to put on it might sort of come out even as a brooch I could see women wanting one. Don't you think? You know those glittery brooches that they want on the lap? All of this is a signaling system to one another that we are back, you know, this is England. We're having it back as our forefathers built it connected into all of those good qualities that we come from that are being crushed by this UCC system, the merchant system, the money power, whatever word we want to use to describe it that's been pushed out. So we've I think, you know, the fact that this is so simple and direct and emblematic is very important. Symbols have got I think we've kind of covered it. You get Turnbull as hell. Just discussing it. It's just it's not rocket science. It just makes sense. It's an exciting I agree with you. It really is. But, I mean, I find that when I put my whistle and flute on sorry. That's Cockney Rhyming slang for suit. You mean you're not wearing it now, Eric, for the show? Well,
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I'm afraid I'm I'm in shorts as well, but,
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you're in your string vest, aren't you? I know what's going on. Oh, yeah. But
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peep
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people actually No kilts. No kilts, please.
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Oh, bloody hell. No. I won't wear skirts, you mean, not kilts.
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Instead of he's got some proud Scots here, listening. They're crazy.
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Yeah. Skirts and shirts. Skirts and shirts. There you go. But now people actually treat you differently. When you got a whistling flute on, people do treat you differently. It's it's quite surprising. Know that? But, I think also what they did in Sweden, which they said was extremely powerful, there was the minister of, oh, it was in who was wanting more and more migration to Swi Swinney Sweden. So what they did is they made, like, a, a dummy up of this minister complete with a face of him and everything in a suit. And they did you know what they did to Mussolini? When they hang him up upside down, they put this dummy upside down on a lamppost outside the Parliament Building.
And it was a it was a January gray day, and it was really sinister to see his dummy just hanging there. You know? And it sent a big message to those inside the building. A big message. You know? There you go. Things like that. Yeah. It it's quite surprising. But So if you got the tar, I got the feathers. Yes.
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Can I sneak in?
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Sir hello? Certainly.
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Yeah. Am I actually on here?
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You sure you are on here. Hi, guest. Hello, guest. Paul,
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Paul, this is Samuel from Rogers Show. Yeah. I would like to point out a book for you gentlemen and for the lady that was just on Hannah. There I actually got my copy was the last one I bought on Amazon, and it came from Yorkshire County Library. Right. It's called the book of the hundreds, and it's from Helen Cam. Yeah. And she was a medieval, historian and scholar that talks about your wonderful country before and after October
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and the power of I've got a copy, Samuel. Samuel, I've got a copy. Okay. I've it's just behind my head. I mentioned it to her in passing. I've I've not got around to reading, but you're you mentioned it, I think, on Rogers' show some time ago. And, I went off and got it. So absolute you know? Yeah. We will
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I'll I'll we'll big that up. My copy actually came from your library.
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Yeah.
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I I find that quite quite funny. It can come from Yorkshire County Library.
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Oh, we've got libraries up there, Samuel. They've got books and things up north as well as whippets and flap caps. We've got books. No. They're very bookish people, Northerners, actually. But then we all are over it. I suppose we're quite bookish. Listen. Can you just hold the line a second? Because we've got another I've got another person. King Lion is lined up and I just want to bring him on too. Okay? Here we go. King Lion. Hi. Welcome to the show.
[02:40:58] Unknown:
Hey, Paul. Fantastic show, mate. I had to call you. It's the first time I've plugged in, and I've gotta commend you guys for a sterling show. Absolutely kicking. Wonderful. Thank you for for for the the the information that Hannah dispensed this evening was absolutely fabulous. It was. Very much required. Yeah. Absolutely brilliant. Do you know what I mean? So Mhmm. I do hope that, you know, give her another opportunity to come and keep us updated in relation to developments. But I won't be leaving her alone.
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I'll be pestering her all the time. I've had two fantastically long phone calls even before this, which were nearly as long as this show. And it's just trying to pair it all down and getting it into little bite sized lumps but the idea is hitting everybody that this is simple and direct and there's something that everybody can do that's not going to cost a fortune but must cost something because that's your kind of commitment into the thing and we're gonna get away. We're gonna get going with this. It's absolutely key. It'll work. You can feel it's gonna work just in the conversation. It's gonna work this.
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Yeah. And what what is true in terms of what she's saying in terms of the cost, she's absolutely right. Because people only value things if there's a price on it. If you give it away to them for nothing, they don't really appreciate. So That's right. There must be a cost that your intrinsic, your intrinsic input into the thing to support the things that the things can grow and thrive and keep on growing. And we definitely need this. So again, I'll just take my hat off to you guys. Fantastic show. I'll be listening on the regular, and I just wanna say keep on keeping on keeping doing the great work you're doing. We're gonna keep doing that, King Lion. Thanks very much for calling. It's much appreciated. Thank you very much. Thank you. You too. You too. You too. Bye bye. Bye
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bye. Certainly a show tonight, ain't it? Ain't it Paul? It's an absolutely wonderful one. It's because it's lit the touch paper that we've been nibbling around for two It has.
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It has. It is. It is. It is. It is spot on. It has lit
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the touch paper. It really has. Mhmm. Yeah. And I I wanna thank Lisa again for setting it all up. Lisa, thank you so much for setting this up because she just sent me a message about two or three weeks ago. So do you know about Hannah? I said no. You need to get in touch. I think she'd be really good on the show. And it's just taken it right into that space of pragmatics, simplicity, but all rooted the fact that obviously that she has the background that she has, that she comes from the world of the barristers and found out what it was all about and has gone through certain I mean she didn't go into all the details but she was with me the other day. Many of the sort of harrowing situations she's had to deal with to get up to this.
It's like what's that phrase? She's got skin in the game. We all have and I think when you realize that and get it it it gives you that fire and that urgency about what we're involved with and that's the thing that's the thing that's to be transmitted and it ignites the spirit literally. This has been a very spirited conversation, I think. It's been high energy all the way through, and it was absolutely right, I think, to let Hannah hold court for the first hour. It was I was kinda worn out after that first hour. I don't know what it's like for the listeners. I went, oh, wow. But it was absolutely perfect thing, and we've just moved it on. It's been, a tremendous use of time tonight. It really has. You can forget all the other shows. This is the only one that counts up to press. I don't mean that but That's right. It's, it's been quite a thing. Yeah. Really has.
So, very interesting as well what she said I thought about that she's not fully involved with the English County's Assembly. So I don't know how I feel about the word assembly but, it'd be very interesting to see us speak on that Monday. So if you do go along, Eric, there'll be no show that night unless I was even thinking I might be take my laptop along. We might even be able to pick it up and stream it out over Radio Soapbox at least and get it sent out that way. If not, yeah, I'll try and get a recording of it because I, yeah, it's like tapping into an event, you know. We could just do a live recording. It's just sort of like and there we go over and, you know, our local reporter Eric Von Essex is in the hall and bang. Well, why not? There he is in his toilet chain and wearing the fuck them whole garb, which is bloomers in the window, whatever it's gonna be.
I
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don't mind. You know? Yeah. Brilliant. Absolutely fantastic. That's it.
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You do. The thing is not everybody has the whole picture. And Yvonne Wright, she does have some good stuff. She's got a lot of information, and Yep. She's a prolific writer. However, she hasn't figured out how to keep the IRS at bay. I mean, they have a full blown judgment for $1,200,000, and they're selling they're selling off her property. So she doesn't have everything, but she has a lot. You know, Roger Well, I doesn't have everything, you know, with, like, the all caps name and this, that, and the other thing, but he has a lot. He's got the he's got the feudal system and the basis for that. It's Mhmm.
It's going to take going back to the county level to the people, the people as the authority, and, we're just gonna have to rebuild from scratch, I think, because I don't think there's any way to fix the mess.
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I think you're right. But the blueprint's there, the framework's there. So much good work has been done. It's it's an acknowledgment of all the good work in the past. Now that it's unearthed and seen for why it was good, you go, well, we want it back. So we're gonna have it back because it turns out that we are the ones that have the power. And I thought particularly when she was talking about the jurors and the experience that they go for For sure. That is so compelling. When she told me on the phone the other day, I just thought this is just a matter it's so brilliant because you can see people in your mind's eye as she was talking about it behaving at the highest possible standards they can achieve and I just thought you know I've mentioned here about over here when she said that there's 80,000 trials they're using that as an excuse to say well, we can't run jury trials because it's 80,000, so you've got to let judges decide. No. That means we've now got 80,000 opportunities to run to to build up jury, experience and expertise in the nation and to and to look at that. That's what we're gonna do. Not quite. It's like parking tickets. Every single thing that goes into court, there should be a jury day. It's only a parking ticket. I don't care. Listen to it. So it only took five minutes. You know, you can go to the bar now. Let's get on with it. Let's rattle through it. Let's deal with it. Make it alive.
Whereas what they do with their wordiology, these colossal documents that nobody can read, no one's got the time to read this stuff. I mean, you've mentioned before, Paul, that I think in the senate or whatever, they get these bills that come through, nobody reads them. They can't. That's 500 pages long. Yeah. Yeah. And it's 600 to thousand pages. Signed it off. Plus the point is insane.
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And and if anybody has to read it, they say you have to vote on it before you can read it. Once you vote on it, you can read it all you want. And, of course, there's absolutely no time. But the the thing is, 80,000 cases, that's absolutely ridiculous because it's all done under statutory administrative law, and that is how they are funding the government through the judiciary. You gotta get rid of the statutory law and go back to the common law, and that is where the juries come in because there actually has to be an injury. There has to be a loss or a harm inflicted.
Who cares if if you're walking a dog on a beach and there's a municipal code that says dogs aren't allowed there? You get dragged into court for that. It it's it's absolutely ridiculous. The law is completely
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out of control. Absent. It's completely absent. It's not present in our life in terms of the way that it needs to be. You know, I've mentioned a guy here on the show. I just wanna read you a quick thing. I actually put a repost on my, Twitter or x feed the other day. There's a guy, he's called Legal Man. He does, a podcast called the Quash'. I've mentioned it before, it's brilliant. I think it's brilliant. It's definitely US centric. It would be. He's a US lawyer. I might have got his term but he's a legally trained man And, you got you need to if you're on X, he's definitely worth subscribing to and I think he's just opened up his his account so that you can comment on it. Before, up until recently, no one could comment on it but they can now. He wrote this the other day. This is about The US situation but it really extends here because it's about a principle. He says, I've never heard a single actual explanation for how this system is supposed to work when the population openly and obviously totally disagrees with each other about what's even supposed to happen. How can such a population ever come together and make it happen? It makes no sense. Then you layer on top of that the fact that the entire government structure is a criminal enterprise that operates without any actual consent of the people.
Then you layer on top of that the fact that the entire society is forced to run on a completely fake money system that's controlled by a small group outside even any ostensible control except the outside even any ostensible control except the criminal enterprises of government. And still, people think we can turn things around if we just come together and vote the right way. Lol. How exactly can any of that happen? The delusions are so deeply embedded. It's fascinating to watch. Well, he's absolutely right on that, but I think today we've touched we've more than touched upon, certainly for here, for this neck of the woods, at least something that would applies to our culture and our people and that's what's needed. It's got to be local, I e national, each nation, tapping into their roots of all the good strong men and good men of the past and saying look this stuff that was put together has just been shunted aside, overlaid. We are distracted, you know, the great distractathon, but we've not been distracted tonight, I would suggest. I think for three hours, we've been absolutely on it. It's been just wonderful.
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I've really enjoyed myself tonight. The guy the guy was spot on. Everything he said was absolutely true.
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Everything. It is. And it he's definitely worth subscribing to because it it's all of his posts are shot through with a complete pragmatic realism about how things actually work and why you are encouraged to do things which will continue to make it not work, like vote harder. You know? That if only we vote. Yeah. It's just insane. It's nuts. I was, I was on a feed I mentioned it I think Eric on your show on Monday. I was on a live feed from the Reform party the other day and there's lots of good people in the comments it was on YouTube. The interesting thing was that after the stream had ended, there were still 500 people on there for three and four hours later banging messages in and out to one another. And of course, you've got people saying, well, I'm voting for them and this is our only chance. And other people saying, no. No. It's no chance at all. He he won't be able to do anything. I'm not blaming him. It's just a matter of, you know, taking this process apart and saying, stop doing the voting crap. It's insane. You don't need to do it. It's a waste of time.
And the best way we can demonstrate to people that it's a waste of time is by giving ourselves and them something constructive to do and I think we've more than touched upon some very simple steps that many many people could do and, you know, we've talked here about numbers. The fact that Hannah is absolutely onto the numbers thing. This is why when I first started speaking to her, she's saying all these simple things. I'm going, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is it. This is it's about numbers. So if you if you get hundreds or thousands of flags flying in towns, if you get a lot of people turning up doing things, it's a completely different ballgame.
It's suddenly you go oh wow there's power down there on the street, yeah there is, it's in every harm and these people are getting clued up and we've now got something I think to put all this communications technology behind and say look we can we can speed up the process of people, you know, going from a position of I don't know what's going on but I like it. Well that's good so get involved, right? Go with your gut to, you know, after three months I now know a little bit more. After a year I know everything. Right? Good. I know all the real pragmatic things about how we do it and I even when she was touching on the travelers, it's so true. We are distanced from that. Over here these people are hammered in the culture, and it's only the negative aspects put. She's right about them being free.
They their children behave like I used to be able to behave in the 60s just running around in fields and chasing cows and hitting cowpats with golf clubs and you know knocking shit all over my that's what I used to do. My mum didn't worry about just be back at seven or six your tea's ready. No mobile phones nothing just life. Absolutely brilliant. Sitting on the trees, dreaming about things, getting creative.
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That we need all that back. That's what they've crushed out of this thing. There is one thing that voting does. The voter registration and the voter turnout. The one thing that the voting does is it reaffirms to them that their bullshit, that their Mhmm. Their fakery and their lies is working, and the bulk of the people are buying it. That's the problem.
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It does. It absolutely does that. It absolutely does do that. Anyway, look, we got a few minutes to go. Eric, I'm looking forward to seeing you in your ball and chain or whatever it's gonna be. Oh, yeah. Sheesh.
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Toilet chain ring, I mean, yeah. But, you know, I
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sorry. Carry on. One of the things I meant to bring up, so I'm saying this now in case I forget when she's on next or whatever, is about over here public notaries. I'm interested in the role of public notaries. It's a a downplayed role. But, again, as far as I understand, although this is likely well, obviously, still in their system, public notaries have the power to convene juries. They can they can do that within the but, of course, if they're not gonna hold any jury trials, it's a power that's irrelevant if they're not gonna exercise it. So the idea that we don't even need their system at all, and I just this is such a release of energy because I, you know, absolutely we don't need any of this stuff. Like you've said, we don't need a government because it's a menace.
We would be better off without it. It's an absolute damaging influence. Well You know, I I I that's why I keep listening to all the news stuff. I'm trying to hear their language change. It's getting very close, but there's someone in the editorial department. They're going they're still saying things like, it's awful what they're doing. This is terribly outrageous, Blah blah blah. Can you believe the management of this country? And whereas the actual communication is the government's our enemy and it's destroying our way of life. It needs to be overthrown. We need to remove it completely. That's the language we're gonna go to. That's the language we've got to go to, you know. Yes. And also using the word treason.
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People don't use the word treason very often, but we don't hear it at all now. These people in power are traitors, and and there's nothing more nothing more to be said. Treason. That's what that it is. You know? So, Yeah. Yes. I don't know. I think that, I'm very optimistic after tonight. Very optimistic. And let's keep our fingers crossed, you know.
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What's your flag like anyway for Essex? What's the Essex flag like? Is that is that what you'd get, or do you get another one? Which is No. No. Art Hertfordshire. Because I'm in Hertfordshire, and I
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so my one is the stag with the wavy lines underneath.
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Stag,
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It's a stag. Yes. A bit of a stag. Yes. Nice. I see. I
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hear you. Stud bluffing.
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Got a stag party. You know? Yeah. A bit of a laugh, ain't it? Anyway, I don't know about you, but I I've been up early this morning. I'm a bit of cream clackard. By the way, are you coming on on Monday,
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Paul? I don't know what we're gonna talk about. Everything's gonna be completely like, oh, we're gonna have to rev it up now. We're gonna have to gonna have to take extra PepPab tablets. We've gotta I wanna stay on this really big time. So, but I think that what time well, we can't everything that we talk about dovetails into this but this sort of gives an action point and that's so useful and I know that there are there are other people working with her on other sides and when she was talking about my son and stuff like that because I just mentioned I said look if you want us to develop shops to sell this stuff I'm happy to help I really want to do it because we can we these flags are already being made you can get that flag right You can get the flag with the white dragon on it. There are people making them. All sorts of so the flag makers everywhere.
That whole thing. I just I like the idea of a pencil though. I've just taken your idea, mate. Well We like a pencil. Yeah. The pencil is mightier than the sword, you know. It is. And That's right. We can use it to work things out, can't we? Yeah. So get your pencil and we can work anything out with a pencil and a piece of paper. Easy peasy lemon squeezy. And I also like the idea what the kamikaze pilots wore. That's a bandana
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tied round with the county logo on the front of the bandana. That's another powerful thing. And also in the back of your car. The county sign in the back of your car. You know? Just you could print that off and stick it stick it in your window. See? So there's a thousand one things we can do. That's right.
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I can't wait for my flags around here. I'm telling you, we get a lot of wind here. Of all of all varieties. No. It's it's it was the home of, well, I'm reasonably sure. You know windsurfing when they put sails on surfboards? Yeah. I think it started here. I'm serious, because there's no surf here. You can't go surfing, even though they've tried to build artificial, reefs down the coast, which they have I think. They put sort of the, you know, 8,000 tons of concrete or something and it Yeah. Causes it to kick up. But all of the windsurfing stuff where was I going with this? I've got completely at my rear end. Oh, yeah. We it means we've got a lot of wind. We do. And the flags down here, there's a Canadian flag that flies all the time because it was a staging point for World War two. Lots of Canadian troops. Yeah. It gets all the flags get shredded in the wind. You only have to go back after two or three weeks and they're just torn to bits because the wind gets really strong. It's just blowing and they just get it's quite good. So probably a lot of resale of flags around here. That's probably a driving little business busyness.
But, you know,
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but but you can actually get flags easy. They're they're made on the Internet. It's surprising what you can get on the Internet. You know, the the Tinted at that. EBay. EBay. That's my favorite. I don't really go much on Amazon, but eBay is my my favorite. And you well, that's where I got the pencils from. Dirt cheap, and they got machines. But, anyway, excuse me. I'm gonna zoom off now. I'll speak I'll speak to you probably sometime tomorrow, Paul.
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Been great, Eric. Been great, Paul. That was Been great. Great Eli. Fantastic, Hannah, even though I know you're not here. Thanks, Hannah. Everybody that's been typing away like mad. As you can tell, it was difficult to read things because we were so in it and on it tonight. It's been quite a show. Different sort of energy level which has just been fantastic. We look forward to talking about a lot more and making flags available as soon as we can get our act together. I'm I wanna get all that sorted out and shirts or any other ideas. We're gonna go into the tut business and it's gonna be the most powerful tut you ever saw in your life. So Yeah. It gives us something to focus on. Wonderful. Fantastic. Have a cracking weekend, Eric and everybody else. You too. We'll be back same we'll be back same time next week. Eric's here with Fockem Hall on, Sundays and Mondays at 8PM, so tune in for that. Thanks. And, if you want the Telegram channel, you'll find the link on paulenglishlive.com. God bless you all. Here we go. A bit of fun coming up and a bit more than that. See you next week. Bye for now. Bye.
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Hi, everyone. Welcome back. It's, Thursday, July 24. Calendar in head still working. This is Paul English Live episode 97. We've got a fun and interesting show lined up for you tonight. Welcome to the show. And although the weather's gone a little bit gloomy around here over the last ten or twelve hours. Started off sunny but it's gone a bit gloomy. We're going to have a bright and cheery show for you tonight. I'm, of course, joined, by the ever present and ever amusing Eric Von Essex. He's in tow. He'll be here shortly. And in a few moments after that, we'll be joined by our guest of tonight, Hannah Bader. Looking forward to this one.
Well, hi, everyone. Welcome back. As I said, it's, it's good old Thursday. A little bit gloomy here this evening which is, which is fine. We get a little bit of gloom. It's nice and warm though and muggy. I don't know where it is where you you've been but, nice and warm and muggy around here. And, I'm joined of course by Eric von Essex. Eric, hello. Good evening to you. How are you doing this Friday or not so fine evening? Greetings. How are you? Well, at,
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Fockem Hall Towers, it's a little bit cooler up here up in the you know, we're a little bit more north than, you are, Paul. And, yes. It's, it's not I wouldn't say it's cold, but it's a little chilly in the air. As you know, I think it's due to the, Japanese air conditioning. There's a nip in the air.
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Is there?
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Yes. Yes. So it's a yes. Slightly. I bet it's it's okay. You know? I mean, it's not freezing cold, but it's it's just right actually, but not muggy. Strange, isn't it?
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Yeah. I guess. Yeah. It's not too bad. I've just been out I went out for a little saunter as I often do Yeah. Pre show, just down to the beach, you know, for a sort of gazing into the mid distance there looking to spot yachts and things and all that kind of stuff. Quite nice, though. Not a bad evening. Of course, nearly knocked over by a couple of runners. These people are always running around Yes. Destroying their knee joints and things like that. But,
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Well, you get knocked over by people with scooters here. You know, those those those sort of, illegal scooters, but they they still use them. But, often like and I struck because you're close to the sea, and so am I. I'm just a, 40 miles away, which in Australia would be living on the beach. Yes. Yes. Yes. Beautiful coastline. I mean, the, South South End On Sea is the no. Actually, no. It's Malden On Sea is the is the closest close line to me. That's, about 35 miles away. So there we go. So not that far.
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Yeah. A couple of little things to bring to everybody's attention as well. I'll I'll kind of more we'll get the gloominess out of the way. It's not, I mean, it what it might not necessarily always be gloomy but, some of you will know that, there was a dear old chap used to call in here, Sussex man. He hasn't called him for quite a few months and, he's been struggling a bit. He had, as many of you know, I've passed on that he'd had a stroke towards the back end of last year. He's been a long and dear friend of mine, for a long time, but sadly he passed away this Sunday, just gone. I went to visit him last week in hospital over at Eastbourne, and he didn't seem too bad, actually. At least he was understanding everything that I was saying, but obviously things turned for the worst. And, he shuffled off this mortal coil on Sunday at the grand old age of 86 plus x number of months. I don't know when he was exactly born.
And I've just been over there today really with his family and helping them sort a few things out. He was, a wonderful chap. I've known him since about 02/2013. So although there is a generation gap between us and and we had considerably different cultural tastes as you can imagine, there was a tremendous shared interest in English history and the law, which is gonna be very much the theme of tonight's show, something that he would have enjoyed very much, of course. Maybe he's enjoying it anyway from where he is, but, Chris, wherever you are, have a fantastic journey onto the next leg of whatever it is that's coming up. You know, it's funny that you sort of bump into people so much older than yourself courtesy of this technology. That's what brought us all together many years ago and just end up with a tremendous shared interest. So I was just over there really making sure that parts of his vast library, don't disappear into the ethers and I managed to, secure that which was being good.
And it reminds me of that phrase. What's that thing? When an old man dies, a library burns to the ground. And I think in Chris's case, it's probably three or four libraries because he was, he was very well stocked and curious right up to the very end. It was, tremendous really. Very minded about things, always looking to ask questions and throw out any sort of false understandings that he may have picked up. And I only discovered today, I didn't know this, that his real profession he was a horticulturist and he'd worked down at Kew Gardens for years. So, this vast book collection that he had, it turns out that the vast majority of them were all about plants. And I don't have a green finger in my body, Eric. I don't know about you, but I'm sort of green fingerless.
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Very well, I I I don't know. I mean, you know, I kinda like gardening, actually. Because, apparently, my star sign is an earth sign. See, I'm Taurus the bull. So I'm for the bull, you see. So there we go. Oh, yeah. But I thought Arturians Home Builders, but maybe that explains that you're you're DIY and in the garden and all that kind of stuff. That's right. I I kinda like being in the garden. I like being next to nature. But I'd like to say something for Chris. We only spoke briefly on your show. Bless you, Chris. Thanks for making a mark on on on this earth, and, you know,
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good luck where where you're off to now. So, you know, it it was a honor to speak to him. So even though that's your Eric. There's a fine thought. So, I was I was with the vicar today because they're getting organized and he said to me, he said, now would you would you say a eulogy at the service? I said, yeah. An hour? I said, teasing. An hour. I said, no. No. We don't want it that long. Really? Two hours then. Because I do you've got to bring cushions. This is going to be a long haul. We're gonna be going through an awful lot of things here. But, yeah, I don't know what it is. It'll be a few weeks' time, but, lots of people around the house who all have really sort of, you know, been rather charmed by Chris's sort of demeanor and everything. He had a handyman who'd been redoing all his house right up to the very moment, and I think it was, he just it it looks as though he got some kind of an infection, and it it was, after the stroke, it was just a bit too much. And there we go. Anyway, at least I got to see him on Wednesday and shake his hand a bit, and he he didn't seem too bad then, but, obviously, there we go. I love it. Not a bad innings. It's not a bad But it's pretty But I just hope he didn't suffer. I don't he just yeah. Because I don't think he did. Did he have much of a family? Did he have a family at all?
Yeah. The well, some of them were down there, but, they'd flown down from Inverness and stuff. He was pretty much his own man. Let's put it that way. I don't think Yeah. He was pretty much, you know, he cut his own cloth and he was, he had a very different view of of things as as the vicar noted to me today. Although the vicar was pretty good. He was great. He wasn't one of those hello. He wasn't one of those. He was quite a nice sort of guy. Yeah. He was great. He was pretty good, really. And I I think, Chris had gone down there even though Chris didn't fully agree with organized churches. Mhmm. He would sort of get involved in all sorts of things and and make his contribution. Let's put it that way, you know. So that was always good. Is this the very old Vic? He in his nineties, you were talking about? Yeah. I think he is. Yeah. Yeah. I I said that to him. He seemed slightly offended or something, but he looked fine.
So I said, are you the guy that's 98? I said, no. Well, you don't look a day over 91. No. I was just this is all running I don't say those things, but they're in my head all the time. Yes. And I have to get an editor on for all that. Of course, the other person that's passed away today or this week was Ozzy Osbourne of Black Sabbath. Oh. Were you a Black Sabbath fan, Eric?
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No. No. How did how did a man who could well, let's put it this way. Any passing is a sad experience. I mean, I feel sorry for his family, etcetera, etcetera. But quite honestly, I think he was just a talentless nothing that was put up as an icon. For the for the for the drugs industry. I think he did lot for promoting the illegal trading drugs, which, of course, the government is heavily into.
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But we won't go into that. But, no. I mean, he's a I think he's an intro he was a funny sort of character in a way. Not that Yeah. It wasn't really my sort of thing either. I understood I mean, I knew a lot of people in my sort of age group that were really into it. It didn't really sort of get me. There were a couple of things they did that were okay. But I think as an individual not I've read his autobiography. Apparently, his autobiography is an absolute hoot because he's actually just a, a working class lad who's pretty sweet in real life. Actually, this is how he comes across. Now everybody says that in normal life, he's quite a sweetie. But when he got on on the stage, he turned into this other persona. You know, some people do that sort of thing. And Look at Alice Cooper. Anyway. Alice Cooper,
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wears a suit and tie and is very sort of businesslike. Very posh when he comes off of stage. But when he's on stage, it's completely differently different, you know? Anyway, the the idea of Chris and Ozzy Osbourne being fellow travelers to the new destination is really quite
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that's what I was bringing up there. They're about as to just passing a part on the cultural sensitivity as you could possibly imagine. So anyway, anyway, good luck to both of them. Good luck to both of them on their journey. Anyway, Eric, as you know, we have an interesting guest this evening. Yes. Hannah Badder, who's, just hopefully, she's here. And, we've got her on the line and, Hannah, are you are you with us this evening?
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I am.
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Wonderful. Nice to have you. So we've got through all we've got through all the introduction bit. We've we've learned about a few things this that and the other so, yeah, no it's great to have you here after our conversations earlier on in the week and and last week. Mhmm. And, Yeah. Really sort of, you know, ever since I spoke to you as I mentioned that it's been running around in my head all of these little ideas and thoughts on what you're up to and what you're doing with the English County's Assembly and what you might not be doing with them and what you might be doing yourself and all that kind of stuff. But many people I'm sure there's quite a few people here that do know you, but many don't. And also, a quick a quick thank you to Lisa. Lisa, thank you very much for making the, connection for me with Hannah. Yeah. Wonderful. Thank you very much, Lisa. That's how you ended up getting here, didn't you? So but, you know, you've probably been asked this loads of times, I suppose. But if you were to be able to give us a quick preamble about how you've got into this position, is there, do you have a little sort of
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Oh, dear. Right. This position as in, do you would you like an elevator pitch of my life story? Is that what you're sort of
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obsessed? Us one? It's up to you. I don't mind if you want to. We got plenty of time. Yeah. You can give us an elevator pitch. It's easy.
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I well, I'm I'm gonna start of, so I am a working class woman from an industrial town called Widnes, right next door to Warrington, the home of the very infamous David Darren Ward. Mhmm. And, I was raised as a Roman Catholic and, participated in the various rituals, shall we say, of that particular religion. Yeah. And, well, I mean, women in my town, it was, you know, finish school and start having children. It was there was no I mean, well, I mean, my mother was quite modern. She, used to sell Tupperware in Avon, so she was quite a businesswoman for an industrial town. But there wouldn't have been, you know, high expectations of of myself, other than, you know, to to marry and and have children. And and and, actually, if you think about it, that's quite old fashioned, really, because you know what I mean? I mean, I'm 56, and it's quite old fashioned if you think about your your late sixties, early seventies.
And you'd think many people would have progressed. But a small industrial town that's, you know, quite religious Yes. Haven't progressed much at all. So I was into acting. I was a bit of a wild card as having spoken to me, and the people on the line will probably know. And, I was lucky because my teachers allowed me to, be fairly self expressed. And, so I was a bit of a sort of character, you know, when I was at school and, I played many acting roles. And I wanted to be an actress. And when I left home, I went to drama school and did quite well. I was a theater actress for many years and, Shakespearean and, toured around UK and sorry, England. Oops.
There we go again. Rambling. Yes. I mean, I'm in England. And, and, really, that was my life until, I got married and have my first son and realized that I probably needed to do something a bit more sensible because, touring with, a young baby is not really something you can do, not not easily. And so I decided to do a law degree. I think also because I hadn't done well academically when I was at school, I suppose I wanted to prove that I could do, something, academic, you know, because my drama degree was, you know, arts arts based and dance and performance and all that. So it wasn't really academic. Right. I absolutely loved it. I went to London Metropolitan University.
They have a law school over there in Highbury Field. It's amazing. It's a little old building, and it was just fantastic. I absolutely
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loved it. What year would that be then when you went when you were going there Oh. Roundabout? '34, '44. I was '34. So it's my second, degree. So So this is the '19 when? The '19 when is?
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Oh, gold. Don't ask. I don't know. But, anyway, I mean, I did it. And I and I this I mean, it's quite crazy, really, because I had no GCSEs or anything because I left school without any qualifications. All I wanted to do was was be an actress. Right. And then I did acting and did very well at the at that. And I got into, London Met as a mature student. And, so I was really lucky, but I touched I I just I just loved it, and I read tons and tons of books. And I was a top student in trusts. I actually got the highest grade in the in my year, in my cohort for, my trust exam.
Right. And, then I thought, well, because of my performance background, it just seemed like a no brainer to me that I would go to the bar and become a barrister. And, that's what I did. So I, I went to inner temple in, oh, Crikey. I think it's just off Fleet Street in London.
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And, spent Well, I used to walk past it loads when I was in London years ago. But, yeah, yeah, I know that neck of the woods. Spent a year there doing more rituals, which brought me back to my, Roman Catholicism,
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very much so. And, those rituals were more based on things like ego and gluttony. I spent twelve months, in sumptuous dining halls sitting next to titled people, trying to sort of, you know, fit in. Always felt feeling slightly awkward even though I had my northern accent knocked out of me at drama school. I still you know, it was still kind of there. Do you know what I mean? The working class kind of, you know, sort of, inferiority,
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somewhat inferiority. Take the lass out of the North, but you cannot take the North out of the lass. Is that right? Yeah.
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Yeah. So, and I I couldn't get into, I couldn't get a pupillage, and it was bizarre because as I said, I was, I was a very good student. And I used to get side with glances from judges and and lawyers and things, and I I didn't really understand why. And it wasn't until actually two decades later that I understood why.
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Mhmm.
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But I wanted to do human rights and social justice and couldn't get in. Ended up in a criminal set. I started a pupillage in a criminal set, did about six months, and I was out because during that time, I bore witness to the horrendous, environments that people who have been charged with, criminal offenses are, you know, subjected to. Going down to, the old courts and the magistrates' courts, and they have, these, I mean, it's like, I suppose, going into, the London Dungeons, but they're real. You know? And it it it smells of urine, and people are in tiny little cages, and it's just disgusting. And this is before they've even been found guilty, you know. And there were all these, young barristers and and lawyers with their, you know, with their posh suits and their suitcase with all their books and notepads and all the rest of it in, taking notes behind the bars, of these, poor creatures, and it just made me feel ill. It almost sounds Dickensian, doesn't it? It was. It was as if nothing's really changed that differentiation
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between the scum and those who are not the scum. Yeah?
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Yeah. It totally was, and I just wasn't comfortable with it at all. And it was it's really hard taking a statement from somebody when their face is kind of split up by bars. And, one day I asked if I asked if they could take this guy out so that I could speak to him at a table, and they thought that was really funny. Everyone started laughing. And, and I just knew I it was just awful. And then one of my first cases, where I was, I had my master, which is the sort of, you know, the head honcho of the chambers
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Mhmm. And,
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it was a rape case. And, we were representing the rape rapist, and I could see from the evidence that he was guilty. And I just it just made me really ill. I've just thought I can't do this because, obviously, there are always two sides to every story, but there's a line where you go, yeah. No. The evidence was just overwhelming. And, my, master was saying to me, well, you know, you're gonna do this, and you're gonna do that. Tell me, how it was all gonna go. And, and I said, I can't I can't go in there. I can't I can't I can't I just can't defend this guy. And, he said, well, you will. You'll do as you're told. And, you know, he sort of marched me off to the court. And, I just remember opening the doors, and the the first the first individual that I saw was the woman who had been raped.
Right. And, you know, she was this pathetic, little, fragile woman Mhmm. With mouthy blonde hair and glasses. And I just I just closed the door and walked, and that was my last day at the bar. I just couldn't do it. You know? No. So,
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I really like looking expecting to sort of have that response in yourself? Had you thought about that beforehand, or was this just like No. Well it just hit you?
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I I well, no. I didn't. I I I, being a norther a northerner, yeah, I have, I have, an inherent naivety, and and and honesty, to my being. And so I passionate believed that what I had been taught was correct. Yes. 100%. I was totally brainwashed. But at the same time, my gut was telling me something different, and that's what I was struggling with. Mhmm. And, there was also, of course, moments where I understood that I could there's something quite egotistical about the idea that somebody could have committed a crime and that you could get them off it. You know? There's there's something quite, addictive about that. And I think that a lot of, barristers, certainly the ones that act for criminals, they get, you know, they get a high off it. It's it's like getting away with it on behalf of the client type thing. And they're not liable they're not liable if it all goes wrong for the lie of the person. No. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. They did. Yeah.
So, I went back to university. I thought I would become a lecturer, and, I started doing a master's in international law. And, and then something, shocking happened. I had two sons at that time. Well, male, three, actually. And, one of my sons, was five, and, he was at a play park. And, it was a stay and play place for the summer holidays. And, and he he was only there three days, and it was just there was something really odd about what was going on there. And, and he had a love bites on his body, and I completely freaked out being a lawyer and, you know, and all that. So I called, London Metropolitan Police and reported it. And I said, I want the park investigating. I want this I want this, lab investigating. He was 16 or 17. He was a young, you know, lab working at this park. And, the result of that was I had all three of my, young boys removed from my care.
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Purely for making the inquiry?
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That's correct. For well, I it well, I was reporting a crime. Yeah. And it was because the park was a local authority park, and it was the time of the, baby pee case. And at that time, if those listening can remember, the the the social services and GPs and everyone involved were absolutely slaughtered. And this was a backlash. So they were taking thousands of children into care for nothing. And I was warned by the police, and and looking back on it, they were trying to actually help me. They said to me, just leave it. Just leave it. And because I was a lawyer, I was like, I I will not. I want justice. I want this investigating.
You know? Yeah. And so I pushed I pushed and pushed. And the and the impact was, on me and my sons. So I, they told me that I'd made the whole thing up and that I was, psychotic. I went I had to have two psychiatric exams. I had to do parenting, courses, all sorts of things. And they were in the care system for seven months while, while I jumped through hoops. Now at the time, remember, I'm totally brainwashed, and I think that all this is right. So I'm just in a state of guilt feeling that I've done something terribly wrong. Mhmm. And, and so I did everything. I was I was what I now perceive as a good little slave. I got all my sons back. There were no orders.
Believe it or not, the psychiatric reporter said I was perfectly normal, though somewhat, eccentric. Well, would be with a theatrical background. And, you know, they were dropped off as if they never took them just like that. Boom. And hated law, completely, disrupted my masters, so I never completed it. I never wanted to do anything to do with law ever ever again. Hated it. Hated it. Hated it. And, so spent the next kind of decade plus of my life as an entrepreneur, set up a cleaning business, organic cleaning business that was very successful, wrote a book, moved from London to Devon to finish my book. And then I think around that time, COVID, hit.
And 2020
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then. We're up to about 2020. Yep. Yeah. And,
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I I got into a bit of a an argument with the local council over travel, passes for my sons. And, I just thought, you know what? I'm I swear on your show?
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You can't f.
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Oh, right. You want to Well, then I'm gonna say I'm You could do it after 09:00. If you want to store them all up, you could let them all go after 09:00. I'm gonna say I'm gonna I'm gonna use the word funked. I was funked off. Right? Yes.
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I quite like that. That's very good. I like that. Do you like that? Yeah. We quite like that.
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Okay. So, so, basically, I happened upon this chap in Canada called John Little. And, John Little, taught me something called sui jures, which is the law of I. And, John has about seven kids. I've never met him in person. Only ever spoke to him, you know, like, I'm talking to you now. Mhmm. But this guy, he took the, you know, he, he took the blindfold off. And, wow, when he explained to me, about the, if you understand, the legal fiction, the mister, the miss, the miss, the surname, and and and and the slave system that we are all currently in. Yes. I was I I was absolutely shocked and just but at the same time, absolutely clear.
Everything just suddenly dropped into place. You know? I had three beautiful sons. I was causing a little bit of problem ten ten years or so earlier. And, of course, they'd want to take my sons because they could sell them, couldn't they? They could have them adopted. They could put them into foster care. Three beautiful boys. Yeah? And, I suddenly saw everything completely and utterly different to what I have perceived it to be. Right. And from that point, really, I became I I believe that I was, it was it was like a spiritual awakening for me. And I realized that if I had been subject to all of that tyranny, the chances are that I wasn't the only one, and that I had a duty, knowing, the legalese like I did because I've been legally trained, and then starting to comprehend the lawful side of law, that I had to, do everything possible to alert people. And that's what I started doing. So you you began, like,
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an education self education process part two, really, on the, let's say, the right side of things now. That's right. Yeah. The veil had been removed, and you're suddenly going, oh, this is the real stuff that underpins it that that they've been using to abuse us. And so you've been in that space, I guess, for the last five years or so, four or five years. Yeah?
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Yeah. Yeah. I've tried to I've tried to escape it once because it's hard. You know, we're in a war here, and and there's no mistake about that. We're we're completely in a war. And, and, of course, a lot of people have no idea that we're in a war. And, yeah, I it's hard. It's it's it's just shocking what's going on. And, I think that I was so raw when I started to get this knowledge, and I've read many, many books. I mean, I've crikey, I mean, I've studied so so much so many things, including what I'm doing now, you know, researching and reviewing other people's work and just everything. But what I did is I started, I created, a court.
It's called a community law court.
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Now let's just stop there. How do you Okay. I'm just gonna ask a naive question. Mhmm. How do you create a court? It's a word, isn't it? You just said the word. Yeah. And, of course, when you say the word court, we think of buildings and things like this. But what does what what did that process involve? I'm gonna create a court, you said to yourself. And off you went and did it. What what did you do then? How did you create it?
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Yeah. Well, you know, as as everyone, who's listening can imagine, nothing's ever quite as simple as that. I I happened across, I think there were three lovely, lovely ladies who'd all been, burnt, let's call it burnt by the system Right. One way or the other. You know? And we came together, and we used to meet once a week. And, and we discussed how we could, get remedy for for the wrongs that we had all been subjected to. And I took somewhat the lead on that just because I've I had a legal and then lawful background. And as the thing developed and evolved to the point where we thought we could have our first trial by jury, they all kind of backed out of it.
And,
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and I was left sort of on my own. Now did they back out because they I'm assuming they just didn't have us any sense or any kind of experience with regards to sup supposed lawful processes. I mean, even as you're saying it to me, I'm knowing I would find that an alien idea. Look, Paul. We're just gonna do a court next week around the back of the bike sheds. It must have been quite a thing for them. They would have had any way
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you know?
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Well, let we've been meeting up at each other's houses over about, six weeks or more. Okay. Yeah. There have been long discussions. It it was a buildup, and it there was agreements all around, and, people took on different roles. One one of the ladies was was very good at building websites, so she started creating some sort of semblance of a website. Somebody else was a former accountant, you know. So, there was everyone had designated roles and it and it wasn't, it wasn't sort of something that that just, you know, was was created overnight. It was something that had a genuine buildup, and we discussed whose cases we would do and how we would go about doing it. And there was a lot of discussion, and there was a plan. But I think what happened, and I think that this is what we're struggling with even now, is that we, when when we have to take accountability, for something that seems so much bigger and, is more powerful in terms of resources than ourselves.
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Mhmm.
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Fear comes in. And the closer we get to action, the more the fear comes in. And I think that my theatrical backgrounds, I'm used to being in action. That's what actors and actresses do. You know? They move. You know? They move around the stage. Whereas, these women, were used to a designated kind of area of expertise, possibly sitting more and using their head, which I know you will relate to because you and I were talking about. But, you know, that chap who, did the TED talk the other day? You were talking
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Yeah. I don't I don't know I don't know if listeners are familiar with sir Ken Robinson. I ought to, I ought to Sir Ken Robinson. Sir Ken. He I I looked him up, you know, he actually passed away in 02/2020, which was a great disappointment to me. He died at the age of 17. Oh my god. Yeah. Yeah. Why? He said cancer. So I don't think it was he he'd been struggling with it for some time. But, there's a speech that he gave at a TED talk about 2012 or something like that. It's twenty minutes long. It's one of the funniest and most informative twenty minutes you can ever spend. Maybe some of you are familiar with it. But he's it's absolutely marvelous. It's, I I have a a cousin who, was in the training. He's over in Toronto. I think he's retired now, but he's over in Canada. He he's the sort of guy that gets up he was a sort of sales motivational speaker for hundreds of Pepsi Cola reps. He sent me a photograph once where he was actually sort of revving up about a thousand of them in this hall somewhere in the middle of America. Right? He's a bit of a he's an actor like you. He's got a very strong thespian aspect to him. Actually, he's got Tourette's. I'm serious. He's got Tourette's syndrome, And he's managed to sort of handle it and, it it's given him a kind of an explosive energy. But I showed I showed him the Ken Robinson thing and he said, this is just amazing and it will it is. It's a wonderful thing. We'll dig it up. Well, I'll I'll have to play it sometime on the show. It's too long to put in here because it's twenty minutes and it wouldn't take over completely. But it it's it's a brilliant communication. I think the key point he's saying is about valuing creativity.
There's a great line where he says about school systems, and he's saying, we've strip mined people in the same way that we take resources out of the earth for for one particular commodity, which is we call intelligence. He said, and that's the way the whole system is built. Wherever you go around the world, the public school systems are built on mathematics and languages and sciences all the way down. He said, and nowhere is dance. This is very interesting when you were talking about movement there. He said, nowhere is dance placed anywhere. And he said, why not? Why isn't this? He said, people like to move. Look at us. When you're children, we all move around. It's all skipping around. I know all the blokes are, oh, our toes are curly. Like a good grief. Don't remind me of that. But it's true. There's a sort of natural sort of spring and life in you and, the great anecdote he told, I don't know if you saw it, about, for Gillian Lynne, which was absolutely amazing because, I'll I'll just tell you this one, sort of paraphrase it very simple for those of you haven't heard it. Gillian Lynne's a choreographer and, she's responsible for cats and things like this.
Hardly anybody, I think, at the time even knew her. Maybe her name is new or new, but when she was young, she was a fidget at school. He talks about this and that that would be in the nineteen thirties, I think so. I think it was nineteen thirties he was saying. And he said, if if they had her today they'd probably say she had ADHD, but they couldn't give it to them because it's not a condition that had been created at that point. They didn't they couldn't actually ascribe it to her, you know. And, one day her mother brings her in to see a teacher and that her mum's explaining to the teacher all the problems that Gillian's having at school.
And he's listening and he comes over to Julie. So look me and your mum are gonna go into this room. We need to talk about a couple of things. You just stay here and we'll be back in a few minutes. And as he walked out of the room, he turned the radio on. And he and, they came out of the room and he turned to her mother he said, just watch. And they looked back into the room and Gillian Lyn had just stood up immediately and begun dancing. And he he turned to her mother and he said he said, he said, Jillian Jillian's not, it's not that Jillian's a problem child. He said, she's a dancer.
It's just the most fantastic thing. She's a dancer. You need to take her to dance school. And Ken Robinson had spoken to me. He said, and I asked her what that was like and she said it was absolutely amazing that they took her to this dance school and she learned tap and ballet. I know this is a thing for certainly for most blokes to find very difficult to relate to but it's definitely part of the culture even though it's off there somewhere, you know, it doesn't get too much prominence in our culture these days. But she learned all these different skill sets and he said to what was it like? She said it was absolutely amazing. She just changed my childhood.
I I was with everybody was moving around. I was with people, she said, who had to move to think. It's just amazing thought. They had to move to think and and he was saying creativity is this thing and he said we're educated out of it. And I actually, there was another clip I heard from him that they have all these charts for measuring your ability to be creative, and when we're all three to five, it's off the charts. But what happens is is that the education system, of course, shuts or puts tram lines in. Many people conform to that and then you end up with this kind of hive system, which, of course, we're all battling against most of our lives from that point onwards. But, anyway, there you go. I hogged the mic a little bit. But,
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anyway, where where were we? You. Thank you. Thank you for that. Well well, in a nutshell, what that chap was saying, to my understanding, was that professors, and what what the education system aspires to only use their heads. They literally their body, just become, something that carries their head around.
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A transport mechanism for taking their head to meetings, I think he said. That's it.
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And so I think what happened with these, wonderful women Yeah. Is that they were in that space. I was ready to to move and take those steps, and they just couldn't. They were quite happy to sit around and talk about it and make notes and, quite happy to reflect over it and come up with great ideas and build web sites and do all the, the technical things. But when it came to actually standing it up, they just, they just couldn't do it. And, interestingly, some of them went off and went back into the legal system and lost even more money and wasted even more time.
And, in the meantime, I took over the, community law court because it was my title in creation anyway.
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The community law court. Yeah. This is law court. Yeah. And that's what? 02/2122,
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something like that? No. I think it was earlier than that. I think the first I I can't remember exactly, but I think the first court was possibly in '21, I think. So I, basically, I I just made things happen very, very quickly, and I'd started, doing paperwork for people across the country. I I didn't really understand how powerful I was, to be honest. And there were things happening, like, courts were shutting down because of my work. The police were coming in and filling public galleries if people had my paperwork in their hands and was reading it out. Mhmm. The it was across the country as well because, I have, and I think I hope that Neil's listening to the show just now.
But Neil, Neil Feinsilver joined me as an assistant, and, and he was a great help to me and my son, Darcy. And we basically, ran the community law court. So it was just it was just a joke because we're getting phone calls from people all over the country desperate, you know, for help. And For justice? It was, yeah. And it was, at times, it was quite full on. And, Neil is, Neil's done the knowledge, and he's a brilliant driver. So, we'd we'd we'd be going off. You know, we we we did, courts in different parts of the country for family courts and just just different things. And there was there was no, there were no obstacles in the way. We just got on and did it. And we had, what I realized through, we so we put up public notices in the area where we were convening the courts.
We would invite the people that the, that was the that that should be defending the claim. It didn't matter if they didn't show up. That was their choice. I mean, it's just like you get a summons. A summons is an invitation to court. You don't have to go. Right? And, if you don't go, then, obviously, they can do they can make of that what they want. And in the same way, a trial by jury, can do the same. And so, we I started serving public notices on the council. I served an eviction notice on the Exeter Law Courts, in Devon.
There were hundreds and hundreds of police vehicles and terrorist police and all sorts of things. I mean, it crazy because all I was doing was delivering a bit of paper to the court. So when you say for example, when you just said then you served a public notice on a council,
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what what specifically was that? Or can you say? I don't know. What what would that Well well, it was it was yeah. Well, it was,
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it was, a claim that I made against them with regards to harm that they caused myself and my sons as a result of them, them not, being willing to provide my sons with transport to education.
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Right.
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So, I I I think that the actual topic is less significant, but the process is is very significant. Yes. Because what we had is we put out notices publicly for people to, participate, in this trial by jury. We invited, the leaders of the council. Everything was done just as it just as you would find in a proper court, apart from we didn't wear silly wigs and black copes. Clothes. Oh, how disappointing. No. And we weren't using codes, acts, and statutes. And, the law public law is made by the trial by jury. I don't know what the law is. Only a trial by jury can tell. Tell me what the law is because they create the law. That is real public law. That is customary law, and that may be even perceived as being common law. I don't like to use the word common law because the legal system has bastardized the word and treats it as a judge made law, which is, usually one old crony who, you know, who's full of ego and wants everyone to believe that everything he says is absolutely correct, and therefore, everyone has to follow his lead. Well, that's not common law.
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They tend to throw in, don't they? They tend to throw in common law when they're describing what they've just done as if that makes it to sort of appease a certain part of the of the listening audience. I I heard it the other day and it's this and it's that and it's under common and I'm going, yeah, but you don't enact that. It's just almost like a a bit of window dressing that they actually put over to sort of keep everybody. Oh, then it must be okay and based in the roots of this, that, and the other. But they don't apply it at all. It doesn't mean anything. It's just a sort of bit of trivia that they That's it. They steal they steal our words. They steal our words all the time.
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And that's and that's a lot of the things that are going on now is wordplay. It's all word trickery. And that's that's really important for people to understand what what certain words mean. I'll give you an example. The word registration. Whenever you see whenever you are required to register something, you're transferring title. And the first thing we do when we have a beautiful newborn baby is take it off to register it. Well, there you go. You've just handed your baby over to the state.
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Right? So Can you, can you deregister your babies?
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Can they do Yeah. Well, kind of. I mean, let so just to kind of just to sort of finish this Yes. Sorry. The the the community law court thing off. Yeah. So that that's not sort of open ended. Basically, what people really need to understand is the power of a trial by jury, the power of the people coming together and creating the law. And, I want to talk about the the variable levels of success because they have been variable. Mhmm. And the reason that they're variable will certainly in the case of the community law court, the reason that it was variable at the time is that, in effect, it was me, Neil, and my son, Darcy.
Can you imagine? It's crazy. And we were convening cases all over the country. It was us. And it was good. It was very good work. But the results were variable. And there were other people that helped us, don't get me wrong, on the tech side, you know, people that live streamed and and, of course, all the jury members. And there were lots of other people involved. But I'm saying that the administration of that court was done by by my son Darcy, my friend Neil, and me. Right? And so what we lacked is we had no we we had the structure of the court, but it didn't sit within anything.
And and although we had lots of support, people came in and out as and when they, were involved, which is completely normal. Yeah. Mhmm. And so the powers that be were somewhat concerned about what I was up to, but at the same time, slightly somewhat reassured because they knew that I didn't have I didn't have consistent, backing from anyone or anything because it was a fluid and very new spontaneous reaction.
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So they they sort of looked over in your direction and went, okay. Well, that's of some concern, but not of great concern at the moment because it's not fully organized effectively. That kind of thing. Is that Yeah. I believe so. Yeah. Yeah. I think that I think that's I think that's a pretty accurate summary. Yeah. And so
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but I I really caused merry help in Devon. I mean, all of the pals that be in Devon know exactly who I am, and in other parts of the country. And so for one woman, I, you know, I I caused a huge disruption to their system. And that's how I know the power of a trial by jury. Because in effect, it wasn't me. All I did was create a title, and all I did was invite people to participate in action in something. And they did. And the result was incredibly powerful, such that they came out in force and hammered me, absolutely hammered me and my family.
And so at the time, I had no I I didn't fully understand the nature of the beast. But now, obviously, again, I didn't realize that what I was doing was so powerful. You see, you know, sometimes we take actions. Right? And we and we don't really fully get what we've done until we're in the impact. Right? And that is part of our that is, I believe, part of, the reason that we're here. Because if we're not here for that reason, then what the hell are we doing here? There there can't be any other reason but to make mistakes and to do you know what I mean? Not not I mean, not stupid, but but sort of test things out and see what happens. All entrepreneurs, you know, all creative people, if they don't if they don't push the boundaries, you know, then then they can't expand. They can't we we don't create anything. You know, it's coming back to the children, the the three year olds, how creative they are and how that gets knocked out of us. Well, that's purposefully done Because if we're creative, they can't keep us in our box. They can't keep us enslaved, and we wouldn't be in the pickle that we're in now. Right? Yeah. But because our creativity has been bashed out of us, and I I was one of the lucky ones that I went I during my school years, I was allowed to, express myself. I was the, you know, the quirky kid at school, the creative, the the drama, queen, or whatever you wanna call it.
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So I didn't have that. You don't get stage fright. You don't get stage fright. Right? Yeah. Or if you do, you know how to contain it and deal with it, and you accept it as part and parcel of the process. Right? I mean, when you were selecting a jury, what the jury selections, the the juries, how did you go about was there some criteria, some kind of, you know, I don't know, framework for going who's gonna be on the jury? Do you just go out and find people at the chip shop or I didn't I didn't go out and find anyone.
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Right. I I don't select the jury. Yeah. They select themselves. So, basically, there was notice put out. Everyone and anyone was invited. And when people came through the door, we would basically make an announcement. Okay. Look. We need 12, jury members. Would anyone like to be on the jury? And people who wouldn't like to be on the jury can sit in the public area, and it was just like that. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. Okay? And, there was, there was a a sort of oath, if you like. There was an agreement, that everyone who was, on the jury would do their best to be aligned with each other and, and reach, a verdict, to uphold, the orders or not as the case may be.
And that was it. It was it it it's such a beautiful experience to be I've never been in a jury trial myself because, obviously, I've been the one that's organized it. You know? Yeah. But watching people come in with all their with with all their, repression, that that is on us, the controls. You see them all there, and you see people nervous and excited at the same time. And then you see them unraveling during the process, and they really get that it really is down to them. You know, I am there as an adjudicator, so my role is to make sure that things are going smoothly, that people have put forth their evidence, the evidence is on the table, to encourage the jury trial members to ask questions.
Everyone on the jury trial has a notepad, to oversee their discussions, when they break for you know, to make their decisions and all of that. And you see people just literally coming alive during that process. And by the time it gets to the the head, a judge, which will have been selected by the jury members, speaking, their verdict, these people are just shining. It's just incredible. And and all of them, you know, without we've never ever had anyone who has completed jury service, not be happy. They've they've they've they've been shaking. They've been excited. They've said they've never had an experience like that before. They've done jury service in the legal, and it was rubbish. Yeah.
They are they are empowered. They get their power back because they've had to make decisions over often very complex, cases and, you know, situations. They've had to listen carefully to everybody else in the group.
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You know, it's just amazing. And it and it was so it was such an incredible Yeah. As you're describing it, I'm getting a sort I'm getting I'm feeling sort of slightly nervous as I'm listening to you. I'm getting a real sense of what it must be like for people to to do it it sounds it's not like those wonderfully contained jury things that you see in all the detective things and TV series and stuff like that where they're all sat there polishing the nails and they're all a bit bored. Yeah. It's it's like I was just thinking it's like raw law. It's just direct. The people turn up. They're guided. They get together. They go, oh, boy. We're really in charge. I mean, that really comes across as you're describing that.
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They really It's wonderful, honestly. Yeah. It's beautiful. I'd like to see that. It's beautiful. I would. I wouldn't mind being on a jury. It is something yeah. It is something to see, and, you know, people came from across the country. I mean, that was the wild thing as well is that everything I did I'm really bad at marketing. And,
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I'm not to media and all that. You got at least 12 jurors. Obviously not.
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You know? Yes. What well, yeah. But I have this thing where, it's it's it's kind of like people just I I say I'm like a magnet. You know? If I do something, people just turn up. And, it's nerve wracking because if you've done your marketing, right, if you've done your social media and if you've done your this and your that, you know, you've got some sort of guarantee even if it's not a complete guarantee. You know? Mhmm. But I was just completely flying by the seat of my pants in terms of people showing up. But they always did, and it always you know, and things always work. And we'd go to different places, and we went to Brighton. We we we we, convened a trial by jury court in Brighton. We didn't know anybody there. We didn't have any contact. It was just crazy. And we just put the property in there. It's just down the road from me.
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I do I feel as I've missed the best show in town, the way you're describing it. Well, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's just,
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really just amazing how people come together. And it's so different because, obviously, in the legal system, well, for a start, you're you're you're only a legal fiction. You're not you're not actually well, actually, you're not a legal fiction. You're what's called a natural person Yeah. Which is, a legal fiction with, some rights, duties, and obligations. You're given a level of agency because they want you to do something. They want you to do, what the judge tells you to do, and not what you think largely. So this you know?
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You can make your own mind up as long as the judge agrees with us, as long as it goes along with what the judge wants. Yeah. Exactly. That that goes yeah. Exactly.
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So it's just completely different, you know, and it's it's super exciting. So what's happening now in, this country is that Sukar, who's the lady chief justice, she wants to get rid of all trial by juries.
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Boo, Tasooka.
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Yeah. Boo. She wants to get rid of all trial by juries, and her, and her justification for doing so is they have 80,000 criminal case backlog, and there's absolutely no way that they can get through them. Therefore, they're going to rely on a single judge who will be, entitled, probably not really a judge anyway Mhmm. And who wants to launder every man and woman that comes before him on the whole.
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It there will be a way to judge it. So
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fantastic. What could possibly go wrong? What could possibly go wrong with it? Possibly go wrong. Nothing. What could possibly go wrong? Right? We'll end up with twenty five percent of the population in jail like they have in America. So, yeah, scary scary times. But Wow. The exciting thing about Sue Carr and her proposition is that it's she's given us a golden opportunity here. And that golden opportunity is for us to revive every county across England of of which every county has a wonderful flag
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that we know Now you hold on to that. Yeah. Hold on to that because we're in the after the break, we're gonna just take a short musical interlude. Mhmm. Yeah. It's the top of the hour. We're just getting to the end of the first hour, and I think that's a natural sort of
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that's that was just such a am I almost exhausted listening to you? Honestly, that was such Can I can can I ask the audience to do something while we're on? Of course. You can. I don't know whether they'll do it, but but you've asked them away. Them a little task. I'm gonna set them a little task. I want anyone who's listening to know what county they're in Mhmm. And what their flag looks like. Because I bet there'll be some people watching that do not know because I didn't know. I didn't even know I was in England. I thought I was in The UK.
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I'll leave it there. That's a good one. So those of you who are in the rumble chats, hi everyone. I've been looking, but I've just been so absorbed listening to Hannah. And in the YouTube chats, type away like Billio, we're gonna take a short break. I'm gonna ask Eric because Eric's just been sat there probably just his eyes are melting or whatever. So, Eric, I'll bring you I'll bring you in after the break. That's right. I'm sorry, but you're okay. I know what my county Yes. I I know what my Hartford flag is. That's good. We got we got to bring that in. We we we're gonna take a little short musical interview from Daniel Bostock. You inspired me, Eric, with your song to watch from the other day.
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Oh, yes. Yes.
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And hi, everyone, and welcome back. The wonderful Daniel Bostock there. I've played that before, but I play it a lot because it's such a groovy little tune and the lyrics are fantastic. I'm here with Hannah Bader and with Eric von Essex. Eric, how are you doing? You okay? Mustn't grumble, and I've been looking for looking for the art for sheer flag on the main, advert you got from the show, and it's not on there, I don't think. Oh. Because it's it's a mistake. Well, that's a real That's a mistake. We we put it together as quickly as we could but we will get into all the flags I think in this second half. There've been a few people commenting in the thing. Norfolk says, Stephen.
It's fifth from the bottom right. Well done. That's fantastic. You can't find the Hertfordshire one. And Gary, over in YouTube says, hi Gary, says Warwickshire. Crikey. I don't even know. He doesn't even know. Of course, Hannah being a Yorkshireman, I know that ours is the dirty great white rose right in the middle of the flag and, but I'm down in Sussex. We have, I think it's three birds that Sussex has, although they have a different flag for West Sussex over East Sussex. So I've been in both of the Sussexes today. I'm currently in the West, but I was in the East earlier this morning. So there we go. I have to tell you, after we we talked the other day with regards to flags and we're gonna get into this flag thing, this is bringing it right down into sort of, you know, right onto the high street. We we've got a couple of really pretty nice avenues here in this little town.
One's actually called Grand Avenue and I suppose for a little seaside town it is pretty grand. It's about the road's about from house to house, it's probably about a 120 feet wide. It's pretty big, you know. And it it was it's obviously a street that was done probably the late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds. It's got these many of these sort of fine old Victorian Edwardian houses still there that are looking grand. Of course, they've knocked a few down and put up the, usual square blocks of flats, the sorts of things that drive me and Eric and many of our listeners crazy, this sort of monolithic, you know, brutalist architecture. So, unfortunately, they've wrecked a bit of it. But as I was walking up there the other day after our conversation, I'm looking at this and I'm thinking, good grief. If we had a flag fluttering in every single one of these gardens at the end, it's gonna change it. And just to let you on a personal level, I'm in the process of, trying to stop my son with a chainsaw, wreck all the trees. We've got to trim all these trees down in our garden. But I'm looking at them and I'm thinking, okay.
I need a flag on each of the three corners because we're on a corner plot. So I'm getting all flaggy. How after I've talked to you. Yes. I'm getting very flaggy in my head. So,
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Yeah. Sorry, Paul. I'm wrong. I'm wrong. It's top right second dinner. I'm terribly sorry. It's my fault. Yes. It's top right second. It's the stag in a shield with the wavily waggly lines, but you haven't got, Bowl though isn't a county, the Fockem flag there. So there we go. No. But it's a separate country.
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It is. We'll just have to get the Fockem County flag. Yeah. It is. The Fockem Hall flag, of course, will will have to flutter in the breeze somewhere if that's the correct phrase for it. We'll have to get it fluttering. A bit of a fucking flutter. Yeah. Absolutely. We've got to get that sort of that.
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It's an unusual flag. It's a pair of bloomers. Is it really? Yes. That's the fucking flag. You salute to a flare pair of bloomers. Yes. It's got a picture of Kenneth Williams on it grinning going off or whatever. Lectern.
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It's a typical English county flag. They are wonderful. Look, there's someone wrote early on as well. It's great to see the English flag, which is the white dragon. If anybody wants to go and do a search, you find out it's an ancient Anglo Saxon flag, the white dragon.
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I thought it was Welsh. I thought it was a Welsh flag. Love it. Is it? No. What about the Welsh and green? That's the green.
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Yeah. Yeah. The green They're red on green, aren't they? They're dragon's red on green. Yeah. And ours is white. White dragon. Yes. Yes. Yeah.
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Love it. Absolutely love it. Can I just say, Eric, your bloomers would be your family crest for Fockem Hall? It would be your family crest. So
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yeah.
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Yes. That's a good idea. You can have your you can have your family flag, and then you can have your county flag, and then you can have your English flag. So you can have three flags all flying at the same time.
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And mine costs half a nickel, you know. You can have a half a flag, and you buy for half a nickel. Sorry. I mean, and if I wanted to be a sort of South Coast embassy for Fockemall, you could I could get a Fockemall flag, and we could, you know, we could say that we're an embassy out here down here on the South Coast for you. That's right.
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That's right. Yes. Excellent. That'd be good, wouldn't it? But the thing is, when we rode into battle years ago, we had the, coat of arms, didn't we? And and the crests as they as they, you know. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good idea. I like that. Because people like Don't you think they they instantaneously
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switch so many circuits on the flags. And, you know, we've talked about it here not in any one particular program, but there's that phrase that symbolism will be their downfall. You know, they've buried a lot of their lies. Mhmm. Sorry. They buried a lot of their lies in symbols expecting you to not figure it out. It's like a hidden language that they put in coats of arms and everywhere, but the symbolism is it's key because it's so fast to sort of switch circuits on in your head and in your heart particularly. And, you know, with the battle flags, it's synonymous with staying alive, literally. I mean if you didn't rally around the flag in the past where the rest of your mates were, you ran a very strong winds of getting hacked down, you know, you as you tried to try it was about yeah you you had to get there You had and you had to defend the flag because it's a signal going out across the battlefield. I often used to think about this. I mean, with modern warfare, they've got telecommunications. Suppose everybody calls each other up on their mobile phone and go, hey, say, Larry, we're getting shot out over here or whatever they say, you know. But in the old days, there was none of that. Right? There's none of that. Right?
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Hello. We're being shot at. Yeah. Imagine it. You're gonna feel this this this 25,000
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men hacking pieces at one another. If you can't see that flag, you're a goner. You've gotta see it. That's why they used to hold it up. You go, you've gotta have it over here because we don't know what we're doing. Otherwise, we're all lost. So it's it's friendly fire. So it's alright. You know? Terribly sorry. We just shot you. Tory. You know? Sorry about that, ladies. Yeah.
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Sorry. Got the giggles tonight. But what about I have no idea. What about what about selling a bandana? Which you can wrap around your head like a like a Japanese do. So when you go into Coles love it. You put your bandana with your county sign on the front. Wrap it wrap. You think how intimidating that will be? Very intimidating. Yeah.
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Yeah. I mean, there's a lot to it. So We've done some of that. We've done some of that. Yeah. We've mentioned we've got a national flag, which is the white dragon, which is just fantastic that it taps into all the old stuff. I love that. It's really, really good.
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And it's Kids would love the kids would love the dragon because it reminds them of Harry Potter. And regardless of what you think about Harry Potter and the Lord of the Rings and that kind of thing, We've got to appeal to the offspring, the younger generation. We we we want them to get involved in this, you know, in this reconvening to land and, soil jurisdiction in the court. And we start with the flags, and we start with creativity. And the the dragon flag is just such an exciting flag. I definitely would have one of those flying in my garden.
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What about national anthem, though? Because we're gonna need a new one without royalty. And I was thinking of the goons, the Are we are we getting rid of royalty, are we, Eric? When did that happen? Are we getting rid of them? I think they become, when I'm when I'll become the overall dictator I mean, leader, yes. They would be going. Yes. So, why would I have Charles the turd there? No. No. No. We we'll find out who is the descendant of Harold because he's buried quite close to where I live. Harold, apparently, allegedly, in Waltham Abbey.
So Harold, you know, so we find out his relatives. I mean, he must have had relatives. So we find out who's the descendants of them. It's probably some bloke who's a lavatory attendant or something. Yeah. Oh, no. We don't have a lavatory attendants now. Now. It could be, could be missus missus Ethelbert up in up in sort of Tyneside or somewhere who's a direct descendant. So she'd be the queen.
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So so including Fockham, we well, we've got 39 counties, and then we've got the Principality Of Fockham or whatever it That's right. Might be next week because it might be something else next week, which is fine. It's got a fluid sort of status, which we don't mind. So we've we've got county flags. We've got family flag. Mhmm. And and we've got a West. Yeah. We've got the flag of England. That's right. Yeah. Not The United Kingdom because
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there is
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no. We don't have that. No? No.
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No. We don't have it, do we? No. Would you like to know why?
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Yes. I would like to know why. Hannah, we would like to know why. Please tell.
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Oh, god. Right. Okay. Don't quote me on this because, you know, I'm I'm only a lowly workwoman from the North. But, well, to my understanding, I have been looking at the amazing work of a lady called Anna Von Ritz and her team. And, I've learned lots and lots from her. She's got a well, it it it looks like a book, but it's not a book that you can buy. It's a sort of PDF that, was printed out for me to read. And, she, is talking a lot about America and, their situation. However, a lot of the things that she talks about can be, you know, sort of, interpreted to situation here.
Right. And so what I learned from this amazing woman and her team is that The UK is a political union. It is not a landmass. And so there is no land called The U The UK, or even called The United Kingdom. It is nothing more than a political union. So anyone who thinks that they're in The UK or they've spent their life living in The UK, they they have been they've spent their whole life believing that they live somewhere that in fact they do not live because they live on England or Ireland or Scotland or Wales or, you know, whichever, country, that they were, born on or whichever country that they, are living on.
And, this is clearly, absolutely ridiculous situation where, The UK, corporation, have tried are trying, actually, to foreclose on the land of I'm gonna just focus on England for the moment because, you know, that's that's where I am. Mhmm. But they're trying to what they're trying to do is, they're they're in in legal terms. They're in adverse possession, which means that because they've brainwashed us all into thinking that we live in The UK and that we're UK citizens, which, we are, but that's something that needs to be sorted.
They, what they're aiming to do is absorb England, and then, make it their land, really, and take it from us. That's the, the the the plan.
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Mhmm.
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And every time somebody goes to register their newborn, their little bouncing bundle of joy, when they do you remember I said earlier the word registration, transfer of title? Yeah. So so when you're born on a land, you are naturally entitled to a share of the land and mineral rights to that land. And I would assert that about three acres wouldn't be an unreasonable amount to be given to that newborn, for that newborn one day to build a house, to grow some veg, to have some animals, and to share the natural mineral rights of this beautiful country. Now through the process of birth registration, we transfer those land rights to a mixture of the monarch and the governments of the day.
And in exchange, the, the people who do the registration take the birth certificate to a treasury, which is any bank acting as a treasury, and they roughly I I reckon they get about a million pounds, for the, birth registration document, and they're told that they have to pay that money back. So they go and invest it on the stock market, in our in our similar titles. And then when they've made the million pounds, they give the money back, and that million pounds is the crumbs of our estate. So our NHS, our education, our, prisons, our everything comes out of those out of those digits, that that million quid that that came back.
And that is a very poor deal because I have no doubt that that, let's say, three acres of land would be far more, valuable than digits, especially given since 1933, we came off the gold standard, and we're using debt notes issued by the Federal Reserve, which has no value other than what we give it. So it's a very bad deal that we've got. And not only that, but because it's, but because we've registered to this UK corporation, we are considered employees of it. And that then minimizes our rights, gives us duties and obligations, and, makes us basically enslaved by whatever the government of the day happens to be.
And the monarch's laughing all the way to the bank because that's how the monarch owns so much of the land. Because every time we register a baby, we've just handed over our portion of the land to a combination of the monarch and, and this government to, to manage without really our consent or agreement because we were not given full disclosure.
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This process of denying people land, did it not begin with the arrival of William the conqueror? Was that the beginning of that process? Because he said, did he not all this land's mine. I'm having it now. It's all mine. And did they use the term crown property at that point? Is that what it is?
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Yeah. I mean, I can't I'm sure you're you're absolutely right. And, ultimately, anyone who gives themselves a title that they are king, they are, all of that all of all of that they have done is they've come in with with a a a gang and taken over land and claimed it as their own. Right? And, you know, and since then, they've become more sophisticated because, obviously, as we've got, well, I can't really say more educated because I don't know if that's actually correct. But Yeah. As we become, let's say, more aware of our rights and more and more, more demanding of equality, it would have got more and more difficult for them to sustain, their theft of, land, their greed, for taking more land than they could possibly ever use.
And so the mechanisms by which they have, robbed us of the land have become, more sophisticated. And the one that they're using at the moment is, fantastic because it's kept us all in bonded slavery, for a very long time. I'm not quite sure how long, but if you look at there's an act called the Seskevy Act. That's 1666.
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That year, they love their numbers. Yes. We know about the Seskevy Act. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. And it coincided with the burning of the city of London, and they loved that too. That's it. I would love to see it. It coincided with it coincided with the most amazing new plans for London just spontaneously arriving just a couple of months afterwards to relay out the entire grid of the city along Masonic lines. But this is all coincidental nonsense that I'm saying. Very coincidental. That's it. Yeah.
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And, of course, prior to that, all births, deaths, and marriages had been registered in the in the parishes. So everything was going to the Vatican. So even before then Vatican. Other yeah. The other people were getting, you know, whatever we were entitled to, which is why they had all the poor houses because, you know, we we we have nothing. But then as as we've come up, you know, through, you know, over the the hundreds of years and, you know, through the system, and we've become more aware that, hold on a minute. This isn't quite fair. Really, is it? And, you know, more perhaps expecting of our share. I don't know if you recall, but they used to be sayings like you're worth your weight in gold.
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Mhmm. Yep.
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So when we were on the gold standard, when there was still gold around, we would actually be worth our weight in gold.
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So if you were a seven pound born baby, you you ought to have got seven pounds worth of gold. That's a lot of money. How much how much Eric, how much did you weigh at birth? Got any idea? How much we how much did you weigh? I haven't the foggiest idea. I know I was there, but I can't really, you know, but I I I, can't say I can remember much about it. I don't know. Sure I was about three stone. I must be owed loads.
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I was three. That's a lot. I don't think it would have been that big. Oh, I was so sorry. I was over two. Pounds. I'm sure when I was I was enormous.
[01:23:12] Unknown:
Yeah. So I'm sure if we look at the records, we'll find out. I wrote tons. Oh, I got Yeah. I was titty. I think I was titty. Witch, you know. But, well, actually, we I mean, as an aside lander. As an aside on the gold thing, Hannah, we there's a little the, they've got this technology. You know, there's always this perception about gold that there's not much of it about or that they give you a figure in the world, but it's it's off the charts, the amount of gold that there is. It's absolutely It's not cool. Where's it going? There's colossal amounts of it in in and around, I think it's Thailand. Thailand has got is just about I've got this. Yeah. Four or 5,000 islands and they have this technology called, is it lidar or something? It's a scanning technology from satellites that can beam into the earth. It measures the frequency coming back and they can detect mineral deposits. So, you know, mining companies are using it for this, aren't they? That makes complete sense.
Apparently, in Thailand, the amount of gold is trillions of tons. Trillions. There's just ton there's so much but, of course, they couldn't they they don't wanna bring it back out because it's gonna go back into this warped system which you're describing. And it's great to hear you describe it. I mean, possibly many of the listeners here are familiar with it. I'm familiar with it but it's I like to hear the way you're describing it. It's it's very useful, all these sorts of things. The United Kingdom. Let's come back to this. The United Kingdom. Yeah. So is this about the is the active when did that is this the union between England and Scotland that began the formation of The United Kingdom?
[01:24:45] Unknown:
Is is that one? If it's England, Scotland, and Wales. Mhmm. So, yeah, there was, yeah. There's it's an act of union. But what I'm saying is, it's it's not about that. It's the fact that The UK does not have any land. It's not a landmass. There's a political entity for control purposes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's just nice. But if you go out in you go out around you and you ask people, where are you from? And they go, well, I'm from The UK. And you go, no. You're not.
[01:25:16] Unknown:
I got Yorkshire. But people
[01:25:18] Unknown:
but do you know what I mean? People people don't know, and people don't know what counties they're in. They don't they have no they don't know about their flag. So these are all the things that I'm really keen. And Mhmm. The reason that the reason because it it people may be thinking, what what's the link between trial by jury courts, and flags? Right? But it's huge because one of the one of the difficulties that we have in what I call the true movement is there's too many chiefs and not enough Indians. Everyone wants to do things, you know, their way. And and to be honest, probably, I I have to include myself in that. No. But
[01:26:03] Unknown:
yeah. Yeah. But the the But there is a way. And the I I I think your point's well made. It's true. The I mean, there's just a every every single person and it's fantastic as well, but we're we're hitting sort of another challenge now. So the the the challenge was hardly anybody knew this stuff. The Internet's been kicking around now for thirty years, and in full force really since nineeleven, you know, it kicked an awful lot of things after that. And so there's a huge number of people now have really been shaken up particularly the COVID thing did that as well. Of course, it's slightly an alarming thing because we we can see their plans in action. But this is a good thing. Now we're at the stage of actually finding which is why I was so interested in having you on, you know, in the conversations is we have to act. There have to be actions. And although it might sound simplistic, get a flag, it's the beginning it's something and it is, but that's its great strength, isn't it? That everybody could do that and then they say they begin to bind in with it spiritually, psychologically, intellectually, mentally, however you want to describe it.
Because what it signifies is that in the county of Sussex where I am or West Sussex or in the county of Lancashire or whichever county you're in, the people of that county are now becoming again we. When they say we, Lancastrians could say we Lancastrians. I want Lancastrians to say that even though I'm from Yorkshire. I still want them to say that. And you know Yeah. We lads from we are the people of Warwickshire and so on and so forth and this something tried. Yeah. Because you you said something in in our pre show chat earlier last week which is Yeah. Right in this sort of bailiwick, I think, which is when people bind together in this way, given that they start to wear t shirts and flags and get Fockham Hall pencils and Yorkshire pencils and Sussex pencils or whatever whatever tut, It doesn't matter what it is. Yeah. It doesn't matter. No. I I think it will absolutely stir the other side up a lot. They will not be happy about that. It will make them very, very unhappy because it's the And nervous.
Yeah. They need to be like they've made us for hundreds of years. The anxiety that they actually poured into our people over hundreds of years is off the charts as they control them and people have still got that. And that anxiety, of course, is understandable but it's also the force that tends to hold a lot of people back from acting. Whereas if the action is, can you buy and fly a flag? Could you buy a t shirt with your county flag on it? That's it. But, well, I've got one of those anyway. Yeah. Not one like this though. This is this is moving in. This is signifying something else. You need to find out what this is all about. This is something so cool. It's a And it's a so involves you. This is your county, mate. You own this. You're a steward of it Twice. Whilst you're alive. Twice.
[01:28:56] Unknown:
England. Yeah. England. The football matches. Yeah. Mhmm. These are this is Joe Public. You see, the thing is with the true movement, we've got all the intellectuals, and we've got the people who've been burnt. We've got plenty of those. Right? Yeah. But what we haven't got is Joe Public. And without Joe Public, it's not gonna work because we need the numbers. We need everyone to have flags in their windows, to be wearing a T shirt, to have in having it in their garden or on their balcony. Yeah. Because the significance of that flag, the significance of that county's flag is tribal.
It depicts the fact that they're on the lands, they're on that county, that they're claiming it. Now at the moment, many, corporate police services and councils are using the county's flags. Okay? They're using those flags because we have not used them ourselves. And why wouldn't they? Right? Because they know things that we didn't know. But now we know the power of the flag and the power of the land and the power of the people in the county. We could start to, you know, merchandise. It literally, I believe. I see this war as something like a Trojan horse, you know, where there's something that seems so, insignificant.
Oh, yeah. You know, they they got a flag. You know? Oh, yeah. You know, he has his mug of tea with his, you know, Norfolk County flag on the front. You know, big deal. Right? But Yep. If you've got thousands of them across every county, suddenly you've got a problem because that will impact the consciousness of the powers that be in a negative way because they'll start getting nervous that we know more even if we don't. Right? Because some of us won't. But we know more than, than we did before. Yeah. And that will make them feel incredibly nervous because we'll be reclaiming our counties and the the wonderful flags. And it's, it's an interactive process. We are a consumer society, so it sort of you know, it it kind of, it it it kind of connects with that.
Now there are many other things that we can do. We can do a declaration to say that we're not UK citizens. We are English nationals. Fantastic. Amazing. Right? Some people may not be ready to do that initially,
[01:31:35] Unknown:
but they might be ready to buy a I'm I'm quite ready to do it, Hannah. Eric, are you quite ready to do it? I'm quite ready to do it. Yes. And are you actually ready.
[01:31:44] Unknown:
Yes. And are you actually saying that, we have council meetings, but without the councils and without the BS of the councils? So we are really telling them that they're they're not in a fit state to rule, but we're taking over. That's correct. Excellent. Well,
[01:32:03] Unknown:
yeah. Well, they don't the thing is they can't they can't ever rule because, basically, the legal system is in the sea in the air. So the court system that that that we're running on at the moment is, merchant law. And, funnily enough, merchant law started with custom, customary rights. So you get these foreign boats coming to the shores of England selling their wares, and you'd get people that couldn't speak each other's language. So they'd have to use sign language. You know? How many oranges do you want? You know? And it would be thumbs up, and it would be smiles, and it would be this, and it would be that. And what happened is the Vatican again, thought, oh, this is a fantastic system.
Why don't we codify it and, and, put it under something called Unidroids and create something called the Uniform Commercial Code, which is all based on merchant law. It's The UCC. The UCC. Yeah. Yeah. It's commerce. Right? But so what we're seeing there is that the most beautiful system in the world can be corrupted. Right? Because merchant law between seamen was, was lovely, and it was really nice and simple. And, again, what we're seeing in the in in the marketplace of Old England is, let's say you have a woman who bakes a loaf of bread and another woman who provided the flour, And, they're having an argument that, oh, she said she was gonna give me a loaf of bread if I provided the flour, and she hasn't given it to me. And the dispute is resolved in the marketplace.
That's a trial by jury. That's a public trial by jury where the people come. They obviously wanna know because we're all naturally nosy. What's going on? Oh, well, you know, I know Sandra. She's very good. She wouldn't lie about such a thing and, you know, this, that, and the other. And and, ultimately, the people around make a decision as to what's how this is gonna be resolved. And the two women agree that whatever, you know, whatever they decide, they'll go with it. And they shaped hands on it, and that's the end of the matter. Right? So that's customary rights. That's customary law. That's public law, and that's customary, rights, customary law over there, down at Seaport.
Okay. So what these people do is they, they inflate and they, create these systems and and and steal from the people and make it their own and and have this exclusivity with the bar and, all the rest of it and wear these ridiculous wigs and clothes to make it look make themselves look very, very important. Well, they do look very lovely, don't they? They do look lovely. Don't they look lovely, their wigs? I know. And and and they and and, well, they look like sheep, don't they? They look like sheep in wolf's, you know, shipwreck. And wolf wolf wolf wolf in sheep's clothing How rude. Which they definitely are. Yeah. And and the funny thing is they're pirates.
They are pirates. And what they do, they operate in salvage. So every time, one of our ships come in because we're considered to be kind of like ships, corporate entities, missus Bader. Yeah. Mhmm. And, so they treat us, like, you know, a bad crew member and, somebody who is, gonna get thrown overboard. And then they take salvage, which could be anything you they can get their hands on, whether it's your baby, your house, your car. You know, they might put you in what I call the bank, which is a jail. Because when they put you in jail, they have unfettered access an an indirect access to your trust. When they take your babies, they have direct access to your trust. So these are the real reasons why all the shenanigans are happening. And the people that are helping to turn this monstrous wheel, some of them know, some of them don't know, and some of them don't care.
And the only way that all of this is gonna change is for the people to to recover their, their, national English national and county, status. Yeah. For the people to, recognize, the distinction between being a UK citizen, and a UK, sorry, English national or or English, national citizen, I think you can be, or or Norfolk, national, or whatever. Yeah. And so for people to do their declarations, and to be sending them to the foreign secretary, which is currently David Lamley,
[01:36:44] Unknown:
for people to Can he read, though? I don't know if he can can he read.
[01:36:49] Unknown:
Well, I mean, they probably don't read this stuff. You know? I mean, I've I've I've sent them a lot of stuff, and, I've sent stuff to Charlevoix. I've sent stuff to Starmer. You know? I've done a lot of stuff, over the years. I've been very, very busy in the in the whole legal and lawful system. Right. But, ultimately, we, the first step, I do believe, is a conversation about where you are. Where are you? You know, what's your county? You know, it it's it's really I think I do believe that it's simple steps, and we can drown ourselves in, complex, ideologies and theories and this, that, and the other.
But what I have come to, and I've done all of those things, is that everything's really simple, and everything is really achievable. And what it takes is, I believe, a business plan, involving an ecommerce site and lots of merch for the counties. I believe that there should be a declaration which people can, purchase and how and get help to complete. I believe that there should be initially one central court, for all the counties. I believe that it should be a court that they, that has to, that that that that makes a charge, a substantial charge.
The reason for that is on a psychological level. I've had people come into my community law courts before and, try to sabotage them on the basis that, they're not proper enough. And They're not proper. Learned They're not proper enough. They? What would make them proper? What do they want to make it proper? Wigs and cloaks. Probably wigs and cloaks and things. Oh, who knows? Yeah. But what I got from that is that sometimes you have to make people pay for something for them to respect it. And so there's there's there's a psychology, you know, involved in this in this plan that I'm, you know, that I'm ruminating on.
And it is,
[01:38:55] Unknown:
Yeah. It's very easy for as you say, we live in this mercantile world. That's fine. We've got stuff. People have been trained on the Internet to just buy stuff and, you know, the delivery vans are all over and they're just dropping all sorts of bits of toot off with everybody. The thing Yeah. You know, it's a great in though for let's say the neophyte moving into the space. Just get some stuff. Is that it? Yeah. That's it for now. Just get a hat, get a shirt, get something, get something. And and they're beginning Sensibility. It is. Yeah. They're beginning the binding process of turning of literally becoming we again. I've you I've talked about it. You know, whenever the word we is used like from the other side, they go we are gonna do this. I'm going what are you only talking about you? And you know obviously they want the whole audience to think that we're all included in this great plan. But it's complete horseshit.
Yeah. You know? So we are gonna sort this out with us. Yeah. For your benefit, it's got nothing to do with us. I'm not even I'm not included in we is a very, you know, misleading word. Everybody just assumes you're included.
[01:39:56] Unknown:
You're not. You're not included. That's true. It's just that it's that little game. That's it. Yeah. Have you have you heard of a chap called Graham Moore of the English constitution party? Just wondering. Yes. I have.
[01:40:08] Unknown:
And yeah, I have. And what I, my thought about Graham Moore is that, obviously, he you know, everything we're seeing, the media's controlled. The mainstream media's controlled. Right? So every message is designed to, makes us feel guilty, makes us feel wrong, makes us feel bad, whatever whatever. Right? And anyone who forms any sort of political party within The UK is a franchise of The UK. So it doesn't matter what form it takes. It's a UK franchise, so that means that The UK corporation controls it. No matter how different it seems to, it seems to be. You know, the saying, same same sift, different package.
[01:40:55] Unknown:
Notice how I didn't say the the the full swear word there, but I think everyone understands what I mean. Yeah. So, you know, it's Well, it's that old adage as well. It doesn't matter which party you vote for. The government always gets in. Always. It's always there. It's a and we've we've talked about it here regularly that there is no political parties cannot solve it because they don't have the power to deliver any of their promises. They're they're all about to find out that there's a force above them like these permanent secretaries I was hearing about today. There's 23 of them. They're in charge of so much. No one even knows who they bloody are. You know, all this kind of stuff. And what's the point of going into their system which they've built thinking that you can change it without it changing you. It corrupts every single person that goes into it is consumed by that demon. They just get completely absorbed into it. Yes. Good men have gone in there and died. Yeah. They go in there and die. Satanic system. It is. To answer your, yeah, to answer your question, Eric, because you you made a very good you raised a very good question, but I didn't fully answer it. In fact, I don't think I answered it at all, which was, are we gonna form our own,
[01:42:01] Unknown:
kind of county councils? Right. Well, Anna Von Ritz uses the word assembly, and I've had mixed reviews on the word because people remember going to school assemblies and them not being particularly pleasant experiences. But, it's about the lawfulness of people, coming together. And so from that position, the word assembly, is quite a useful word. Ultimately, it is the people, that control the service providers. And The UK, corporation is nothing more than a service provider. And what has happened is because we, have lost our way for whatever reason, we've allowed our service providers to become our masters.
And we now need to recover our counties, recover our status on the land, and, and start, putting pressure on them to make changes. And if they don't make the required changes, and that will be something that grows with numbers and people becoming, more sophisticated in terms of, you know, going from perhaps buying a flag to doing a declaration, perhaps from doing the declaration to leading an assembly whereby they take responsibility for making sure that there's perhaps a monthly talk where they can meet with other people in that assembly and say, right. You know, we're not happy about paying for this or that.
We're going to, we're gonna raise some money and hold a trial by jury for the, the land at the land's court and, you know, with all the, bells, whistles, and all the rest of it. And we're gonna invite this council to our court. And if they don't come, well, that doesn't matter. We'll still carry on and do it, and then we will let them know what our orders are. Now I did that. If we go back to the first hour of the show, this is what I did. And it was hugely, hugely powerful, but what I didn't have is the numbers backing it up. And that's what we need. We need the numbers, and we need some level of structure.
I think the most important thing that Anna Von Ritz's work has taught me is, I I did something called an affidavit in Demura with a good friend of mine, Stuart. I don't know if he's watching, listening to the show today. He's brilliant. His knowledge of, law and legal is just amazing. And, we did this document that we sent to, the prime minister and the birth registrar, lots of different people. And it was good. It was a very, very good document. But what I've seen with the Anna Von Ritz declaration is it just goes back 10 steps further, and you've got various, references to various pieces of legislation that prove that we are considered legal fictions or natural persons and that this, trust exists.
And the process is a reconveying from The UK citizen status, which which was which has been put on us from our birth back to the land. And so I think that that's a really powerful document. And I think that enough people do it, it will start to, level things up quite quickly Yeah. In this country. And the fact that they're getting rid of trial by jury courts in their in their in their merchant courts, in their admiralty courts, in their ecclesiastical canon, based courts is really great because it gives us the perfect excuse to reconvey trial by jury courts on the land. And if they have anything to say about it, well, for a start, they cannot stop us because they've got limited jurisdiction.
And, ultimately, we can turn around and say, well, oh, well, you don't have trial by juries anymore, and we don't think that's right. So, you know, we can start transferring. Can you imagine this? We can start requiring transfers from the family court where they're stealing babies day in and day out to a trial by jury court. Names and all of that can be protected. You know, it can be child a, child b, whatever, you know. So that can be dealt with. And you get a whole trial by jury, deciding on that family's, position rather than one judge and a whole team of people that have an economic interest in that family's demise.
That's a game changer. So that's what I'm envisaging, you know, for the future. And it I can't do it alone. You know? People need to connect with what I'm saying and say, yeah. I want that too. I want this to happen. I want it to happen in my lifetime. This is possible, and help me to make it happen.
[01:47:18] Unknown:
Also If you want to yeah. If you I would just Sorry. If you wanna call into the show, by the way, I'm just letting everybody know. I I know I say this each week, but we've got the lines are open. I opened them up at the beginning of the second hour. If you want to call in and you're in The UK sorry if you're in England or Scotland bloody hell old habits die hard if you're in the if you're in the Disunited Kingdom place, the complete mess, then you can call in. The number to dial is oh, it's come gonna come around on the screen in a second. I'm just waiting for it to come. I can't even read it out. Where is it? It's actually on the screen right now on Rumble and YouTube. You'll see it. Okay. The UK number is 03330110616. That's 03330110616.
And then you have to enter in, a little sort of code at the end of it which is 5432323Hash. I know it's a bit complicated but that's the way you can do it. Or if you want to come in over the Internet, go to paulenglishlive.com forward slash call. That's the easiest way. Paulenglishlive.com forward slash call on your browser and you'll come in. We're looking at the screen now and there were some people rocked up in the first half but we were taking calls then but if you want to come in and put a question to Hannah or make a comment or whatever, you're more than welcome to do so. And if you need those information Absolutely.
Yeah, head on over to YouTube and Rumble and just have a look at the screen. It's running across the screen right now. Eric, sorry about that. No. No. No.
[01:48:52] Unknown:
It's just it's your show, you know, and it's important you got that out. Well, I'm going to say my granddad, when I was very young, used to say to me, watch out for the infiltrators. And when I was young, I didn't quite understand what he meant because, he was born in 1888, and I think he joined the Labour Party in nineteen o seven when it was set up. And he saw how it was infiltrated in the nineteen twenties and thirties. And it's only when I got a little louder than I realized what he was trying to tell me. Because when it was first set up, it was really not much to do about socialism because I think that was going to tackle usury, and that went straight out the window when it was infiltrated.
But he he he actually saw the infiltrators. And my, he also served, soup at the Jarrow Marchers, so he tried to help in that. What about infiltrators? What are we gonna do with them? How are we gonna iron them? Well well, they're all they will always be, Eric. They'll always be infiltrators.
[01:49:55] Unknown:
You know? I mean, they'll always be it it's it's kind of interesting, isn't it? But, I mean, I I believe that I I've gone through my life believing that most people are good, and I still do believe that. I think there's a lot of good people doing bad things as well. You know? Like I said, there's people working in councils that have no idea what they're participating in. There's people that work in the, judiciary. And what they've done now is they've put all those sort of people, in offices well away from the courts. Mhmm. There's there's people, even judges, no doubt, that really, are deeply unhappy about what they are, participating in. There's gotta be some people out there that, you know, really, really, are kind of trapped.
There's the the the the police. I mean, the police are nothing more than private, foot soldiers. They're carrying weapons, which is against the law of this land, and, they have no clue, who they're working for. They're certainly not working for the people. Their role is a peacekeeping role, and they are definitely not peacekeeping. No. So, you know, it's it's all pretty screwed up, and there's a there's a lot of people that are being misled, including myself. I was one of them. I did my law degree. I was completely brainwashed. You know, I have my children, taken because I reported a crime. I jumped through every hoop. I was a very good little slave, got my kids back, had no idea what what actually was going on. You know? So I have no doubt there are thousands of people, millions of people in that position.
Now it is the duty of the people that do know to start to have gentle conversations with these people and let them know what they act who and what they actually are because somebody's gonna wake somebody else up. It was John Little for me. John Little said to me, you know, this is what's actually going on. And, you know, though the the blinds were off, and I start seeing things as they really are. There's always a few bad people at the top of every system, you know, who will you know what I mean? It will twist it. But, I genuinely believe I believe that we can reconvey half of the police force of this country to the land jurisdiction, and that will completely destroy the legal system. It will completely destroy the the the debt slave, the bond slave system that we're currently in. It will shrink it to nothing.
So there's there's some really big potential with this declaration and with the reconvene of these people and, you know, taking up these counties, it's huge. And it's so simple. And I'm I'm up for that because I've done I've done all the headbanging stuff. I've done all the complex stuff. I've been to every, you know, the highest courts in this country. I still work in the courts, and, I do lots of things. And I always look for where there is remedy. And, you know, I believe the remedy is with the people, 100%. It is with, it is with the ones that are shouting England, where they go to the football matches. You know, ordinary people that, are are are have been in this in this mire throughout their whole life and deserve better.
I agree. A 100% agree with you. Do is start it's it's just talking to them about where where simple conversations. What county do you live in? Or have you seen the flag? Do you know what it looks like? You know? Simple, simple things. And I I I believe it would be a rapid turnaround.
[01:53:31] Unknown:
Yeah. I think what you're promoting is optimism, and this is what we need. Because social engineers have have actually drained us of optimism. And this is why we see so many people walking around looking shabby, looking sort of uncouth, looking just down all the time. But one thing I was going to ask you, am I right in saying that Yeah. Gypsies do not register their children at birth, and that's why they can drive around in vehicles untaxed, un MOT'd, no insurance, and get away with it. Am I am I talking am I talking a load of bovine excrement? Yeah. No. Is that correct? No. You're not. No. That well, that well, basically, the traveling community,
[01:54:16] Unknown:
because some of them don't like to be called gypsies, but the traveling community are the freest people on the land. And I absolutely love the traveling community because they actually teach us how we should be living. Now some people, treat them like their men, and I think that's a disgrace because these are people that have their own culture.
[01:54:35] Unknown:
And, they are But you're talking about hang on a minute. You're talking about this difference between sorry. I didn't mean to cut in, and please excuse me if I sound rude. But there are Didicois and there are Gypsies. And the Gypsies can't stand the Didicois and vice versa because the Gypsies are are a culture. The Didicois are just the ones on the edge.
[01:54:54] Unknown:
That's the thing. Okay. Well, I I I don't know. I I can't say I I could differentiate, but all I can tell you is that my experience of, the gypsy community or the traveler community, depending on what they what their preference is to hear, is that their offspring are so free. I mean, I I love nothing more than to see 40 caravans coming up onto a public park and, you know, and all the kids are out all all hours of the day and night, and they're dancing and its radio's on and, you know, it's just alive. And I think that we need to take the lead from these people because they are free. And I tell you what, they know the law better than any of us because they are the law. They are the we are the law. And so what you did you have you seen them with the police? I mean, they they they railroad the police because the police know that they know. Right? So when the police go to visit them, when they've, you know, when they've all pulled up at some public park somewhere, they're they're so careful.
And, and, you know, the the the men and the women and the and the the offspring, you know, they come out, and they talk very directly, you know, with the police. And the police are like, well, leave them alone because the police know in that moment that they are outnumbered. They're they're outnumbered, because there'll be a lot of them, a lot of caravans, a lot of, travelers or gypsies and offspring. But they're also, they're outnumbered in terms of skill because those people know the law. And they'll say to them, oh, you know, we yeah. Obviously, yeah, we were retired. It's you know, we can we can stay here, or we can we can do what we want here. And and and there and there's there's it's that balance because, of course, that park will also be used by the people in the community. And and it's a we all have equal rights to use that park.
But they usually will move on. And, you know, their caravans are usually immaculate. Sometimes they will leave rubbish. Sometimes they won't. But perhaps some of that is about how they've been treated by society, you know. Are they they're just wrong. Something I yeah. Yeah. Sorry. I'm sorry. Something I really wanted to do actually when I yeah. Sorry. Go on.
[01:57:12] Unknown:
On. No. Please carry on. I I I I I just got a little comment to make about gypsies, so please carry on.
[01:57:18] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. Well, something that I was really passionate about doing, when I, left the bar and when I got derailed on my university thing, I wanted to, lead, a traveler community. It was a charity. And I wanted to be the spokesperson, spokeswoman for that for that charity. But unfortunately, they were they they were offering me a ridiculous amount of of money. I just couldn't, you know, couldn't manage on that money because I'd spent so much money on my law degree and, you know, going to the bar and everything. I was hugely in debt. It's like $60 debt. And they offered me, like, $12 a year, which I was like, I won't be able to do that. But I really wanted to do it, you know, because I felt, just had a kind of instinctive connection to the fact that somehow these people were doing something right and, you know, that they were free.
And, and that that was exciting, you know, for me. But, unfortunately, I wasn't able to, you know, to, follow that through.
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But, yeah, I I you know, they're they they're really, our hope for the future, I believe. Can I just how are you fixed for time, Hannah? How how do you wanna play this? We're kind of up to the end. It's nearly 10:00. You're more than welcome to stay, more than welcome. I mean, you know, but I'm just thinking of you and your time. So if you want to keep on talking, we can we can definitely allow you to do that. I'm absolutely loving this. But, how are you fixed for time? What would you like to do? I have to be civil about this. I
[01:58:43] Unknown:
I I just want to, ask a few questions. Is this is this, is this recorded, this interview? Yes. So is are people able to, listen to it after?
[01:58:55] Unknown:
They are. There'll be a full recording on YouTube. There'll be a recording on Rumble. There's a podcast paulenglishlive.com about forty minutes after we've finished. The whole show will be as an audio file for people to listen to. So, yes, they can listen to it and download it and consume it at their leisure. Yeah. Amazing. Absolutely. Amazing. I'm sort of what I'm what I'm sort of present to right now is that I hope that this has been largely,
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given that we're we're clear that we are in a war with our, with the people that we employed to, look after us, they have become, our masters. And that the fact is that the only way that we can, re reverse, back to the right order, which is that that we are the master and that they are the service providers. Right? Yeah. Is by the people, doing their declarations and, you know, engaging with their counties and engaging with their flags and other merchandise. I think that, I think that's a good place to kind of end because not end, but just just for now. Because what I'm thinking is we've given people a lot of food for thought, and I hope that we will, you know, that we will have, other opportunities to, to move the conversation forward. And in in terms of the work that I'm doing with the, what I'm doing with the English Cancer Assemblies is I'm actually, reviewing, the structures, which come from, most most of it, as I understand, comes from the work of Anna Von Ritz over there in The States. Yep. And, so that's what I'm doing at the minute. And and where I've where I've ended this kind of conversation is where I'm at in terms of my, knowledge. I've got three or four chapters of her,
[02:00:51] Unknown:
of her work left to review. I just have to interrupt you briefly. Okay? Yeah. Because we're just at the top of the hour. So I just wanna say goodbye to all the listeners on, WBM three two four. We're carrying on here running for another hour, probably not without Hannah, but, on Rumble and YouTube, myself and Eric will be having the, the after show. But we'll be back here on WBN same time next week, 3PM US eastern, 8PM in The UK. Hopefully, you'll be able to join us. Have a cracking week, everybody, and, we look forward to you all learning how to buy your flags.
And, that Yeah. That's it. So we've just said goodbye to the NBN. They've just dropped the feed, but we're we're still here. You can still wrap up for a bit. We don't we're not. Amazing. Thank you. So what I was what I was thinking
[02:01:36] Unknown:
what I was thinking would be really, I think, really good is that you and I, Paul, are gonna have continue having conversations. And and I have a talk, on the August 11, which I hope that you will plug for for, for us.
[02:01:52] Unknown:
Fish Island. That's gonna be Monday, August 11, 7PM star. I'll put the details in the show description when I edit the YouTube and the rumble files. Amazing. And we'll put it Amazing. We have a we have a Telegram group with a couple of 100 people in it, so I'll publicize it in there. Fantastic. And there are there are other people that are the same to know about it. Yeah. And and I might even meet Eric in real life. He will, of course, be dressed in the Fockem Hall customary costume. I don't know why what it is, but I'm looking forward to seeing you. Eric in real life. I would I would love to see I would love to see his fam I would love to see his crest. Yes. That would be amazing. Really? Oh, it would be embarrassing now.
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I thought I might get arrested. What?
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What I would really love to do I mean, there's so many things that I can talk about. Obviously, I think you kinda got the idea. Right? Mhmm. But what I would love to do is, maybe book another session in. You know? When I've completed the book and I've kind of completed my analysis and and really kind of crystallized my thoughts in terms of, you know, whether I'll be joining the English county's assemblies, because that's where I'm at at the minute. I'm on the sort of, you know, I'm on the sort of threshold, and I'm thinking, well, do I come in? And if I if I go in, then I've gotta follow the structures that they have in place. Yeah. Or, do I say, well, I'm not sure about this, this, and this. And if it doesn't change, I can't participate in that system. However, I'll take the bits that I'm aligned with
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and and take it from there. It's it's great to know that you go through that similar process because we're all looking for something that ticks every box. And we're and it's almost as if we're never gonna find that and there's somewhat inside every single one of us there's a there's a sort of cutoff point you go that's too I can't be around this anymore now that's too much. But there's there's many things that people can contain and I think that it's required in these early stages because it's not gonna go the way that it works in the picture in our head. I know how I want it in the picture in my head and I want it to go that way but I want I I'm not gonna meet it that way. I'm gonna meet it in different forms. They're gonna be people at meetings that I think are amazing. There are other people I will have a lesser opinion of because of what they're saying. There are people that do disrupt in meetings. There are people that make them flow. It's all these sorts of things. It's very delicate when you're gathering us together, our long together. Yeah. We're so stubborn. We're all right. We all know better than everybody else. I include myself. Right? No. He's wrong about that. Yeah. And and in the end you go, it's irrelevant to some degree whether you're right.
Because if we do not come together, we're not even gonna have the opportunity to argue with one another. These arenas, these these conventions, the places our meeting places won't exist. I just wanna argue with my own people on England. I'm quite happy to argue with them and be proven wrong. Absolutely agree with you. It's fabulous. It's not a problem. Good grief. You just taught me something. I was so stupid. I couldn't see it. Thank you for beating me around the head with a bit of wood and getting it through my thick head. I need to know this stuff. And I think with that attitude there's there's nothing that's in the way of stopping us coming together Move moving forward. As the English in England and as the Scots in Scotland, as the Welsh in Wales and the Irish in Ireland and the Northern Irish in Northern Ireland. All of these things need to be done because it's it's universal to everybody. I mean, we look around, don't we, at the news that's going on and every single one of our nations, including most of the nations in Europe and elsewhere, they're getting hammered by this UCC cult, this mercantile cult, this banking cult, whatever you wanna call it. We all know. They didn't hand Yeah. The money power I call it generally because Yeah. That's the great their favorite tool of their favorite weapon to to wage against us. And this route through and I mentioned it here before on the show and I think I said it to you when we were talking. The guy that taught me a great deal about banking, Ray, said to me very early on, he said the way that we lick this system is through law and obviously it's through the the right law, the righteous law, this one. The land of the people.
Yeah. The law of the people. Yeah. There is and there's another chap that I need to I've actually just you know him because I mentioned him to, to you the other Alan of Salisbury. Now I met him briefly. Alan of Salisbury is my lovely friend, Alan. Yeah. He's great. Yeah. Very nice. I met Alan of Salisbury very briefly at someone's house a few months ago, and it was just a general chat. So I didn't really get to know him, but I've got his contact details, and I know someone who knows him really well. And, Yeah. One of the things that came through in the conversation I just had from a third party was this, link between the word law, l o r e, and law. For law is the tradition of our customs, is it not? It becomes That's correct. Yes. It's our law and and this way that words are just shifted to one side and then create a completely different impression in the crowd so that you can control them is key. Yes. And I know he's very strong on words. We had a wonderful discussion about the team that was Shakespeare, the group that was Shakespeare, to bring into the English language so many new words which didn't exist.
And it's it's absolutely it's unbelievably fascinating and compelling. It's also very important because it's affecting our lives every moment of the day with all this Yeah. Their misuse of these spells. Literally, every word is a spell and they've they're casting a spell on us. Yeah. And you Spelling. I I mean, it's been fantastic tonight, Hannah, because you've you've laid things out in layman's terms and this is the great challenge and people, I don't think, understand what a challenge it is. It's to pare this knowledge down. I've said this here repeatedly.
You talk to the guy in the pub, you go you got this, you got that, yeah you want to do something, yeah I'm in. Great that's what we need bang bang bang. Yes. Let's get going. I don't understand it all neither do I but does it feel good? Does it feel right? Does you is your gut telling you that this is the right thing to do? And it is that's what's going on with everybody right now. They're outraged because it's their experience that this is absolutely sick what's taking place and they're right and that's you know flags Yeah. Any sort of symbolism that we can use to harness that energy amongst people Yeah. Is gonna be a mighty thing. Very powerful. I I agree with you. Now tell you something. You've done a fantastic job, Anna, tonight because
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you've explained it so simply by describing them as pirates. Fantastic. It's it's one of these things. It's a bit like the invention of the paperclip. You look at it and think, what did neither think of that? But it's it's a fantastic simple description. I mean, I call government mafia. In fact, I think the mafia is probably more honest because at least they give something back to the community. Government doesn't give anything back to the community. So really, what's the difference between government and mafia? There isn't any. In fact, I'd say the gov the real mafia are more honest.
You know? I mean, I think they'd probably do a bad job. But no. Really Yeah. The I think you're right. The power of people, and it's motivating the people. Motivation. That's what people haven't got. They're lethargic.
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Inspiring and rolling. They're what that's right. Making things yeah. Making things easy step by step. You know? People worry about stuff. They worry about losing the the few crumbs of the state. You know? Some people may may be in financial difficulties, maybe single mothers or fathers and, you know, different things and, you know, relying on the crumbs of the state, pensioners and all the rest of it. But it's it's it's our credits. It's our money. There's there's so much. You know, we're we're all actually really quite rich. And and one of the things that I deal with is the breaking is is is shattering the illusion because I I deal with people that believe that they are rich, and I deal with people that believe that they are poor. But, actually, we're all equal because, you know, they're just digits. Right? And to me, it doesn't matter if you've got 10 digits. So you got 10,000,000 digits. It's just digits because it it has no it has no gold it has no gold value. But what we all have is our equal share of the land. And this process that I've been talking about tonight is about recovering our land and standing on our land and, making decisions on our land as a people and getting we we are actually the government ourselves, but what it is is that we've allowed, the separation between we've we've allowed it's it's the master and servant thing. You know?
The the servant has become the master, and that needs to be corrected. And it will be something that will always need correcting because people will always try on. Some people will always try on. Right? And so this is a wake up call that has to happen in our time because moving forward, there always has to be a trial by jury because a trial by jury makes the law. Whatever those whatever that sort of cross section of society in that jury is is whatever the law is at that time because they're creating it. So it's always evolving with society. So it never ever is something that we need to look back on and go, oh, what was that what what was that bloke that wrote the Magna Carta, or or was it the barons, or was it the people? Forget all of that. It's gone. It's his story. Right?
What we have is the land. What we have is the people living on the land. What we have is the counties. What we have are the flags, which I believe according to, my good friend, Dwight, 1842, these, county flags roughly, around that around that era were established. And, they're not going anywhere, and it's they're ours for the taking. And it's time for us to take them and take back our land.
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Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Brilliant. Yeah. I I'm hoping to have a whole series of other little short conversations with you, Hannah, going forward. You don't Yes. You know? And when you're ready to come we can do another long one when you're ready. But I thought Yeah. You know, if I'm speaking to you during the week, I may well record fifteen, twenty minute chats, and I'm gonna drop them into the show here as an insert saying I've just been having a chat with Hannah. Here's, ladies' thoughts on things that have it. It's been Yeah. Been wonderful tonight. I've I've really, really enjoyed it so much because it features to all of this positivity that's required and a can do ness, and we can do this. We can do it. We totally can do it. We can totally do it. Yeah. We can do it. I'll tell you another thing. Yeah. Humor. My attitude is our greatest weapon
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is humor because this is why they're trying to destroy our humor because they're frightened of it. They don't understand it. And it's surprising what you can get over by humor. Now for example, I did a planning objection, 25 page report, but I put humor in it. And, and, you know, and and little things like, you know, it is rumored that, the counselors, are closet violinists. Why can't we, the public why can't their residents see them openly on the fiddle? Now there's nothing wrong in that, is there? So Hello? And that's coming up. I wouldn't understand all that. Yeah. And and and things like, and putting the, for example, where there was open rubbish bins and that, don't complain.
Praise them for, fly conservation. They're, you know, they're helping nature by creating, more flies, which is is good for nature, feral pigeons and things like that. Just keep praising them, you know, and and and and say, this is what I do. I do the opposite to what they think, you know, and, invent a name, you know, invent a sort of a society. Yeah. Like, you know, the the video. Yeah. The the, the fly conservation society, you know, how marvelous it is to have flies around just pollinating the plants. I love that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Head of head of the Blue Bottle Society. Yes. Yes. That's right. And I mean, I I said there were this new estate.
I said, you know, watching, at the moment, we've got fields around us, you know, and, seeing animals mating and eating each other upsets granny. But if it's built on, then we can control the nature by leaving, rubbish bags around and that. And that will whether we can see pigeons, which people like, flies, wasps, those type of things are controllable. So I'm looking at the the positive points of of of an estate, you know, around us.
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That's brilliant. Didn't you get a job as a counselor, Eric?
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Oh, can they come in never in a million years.
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Head of Fuckingham Hall Council. Yes.
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Perhaps you could become a you could become a county assembly leader and do monthly talks and start following the council head on with your with your new founded county flag
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and your quest
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and, you know, go in there head on and deal with these people. Deal with these,
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workers. Fuckums, sorry. Fuckums. No. No. I was happy to say. How well has the watershed?
[02:15:07] Unknown:
Yes. But I like I like what you said, Paul, about the blue we could start the blue bottle society praising them for not emptying the bins. You know? Because they're gonna have, say, two weeks. Gonna have three weeks about bins now. Not two weeks, three weeks out bins. So, you know, a king fisherman will like the maggots crawling out of the bins. So that's gonna be good, isn't it, for fishermen? Look at all the positive aspects. You know? Horrible.
[02:15:33] Unknown:
Well, I think, Eric, you you as the head of the council, the idea that you've got a toilet chain around your neck, you know, they all actually turn around your neck. So if you they pull it, I'll flush. Oh. Trouble is every every time they pull it, I'll flush.
[02:15:47] Unknown:
They pull it out. It's gonna come in.
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Oh. Certainly.
[02:15:51] Unknown:
We have a little voice coming in, Hannah. You see, we sometimes get other voices coming in. I don't know where they come from. Actually, I do know where this voice this is Paul who another Paul, to confuse you Oh. Who's in who's in America right now. And because this show is also picked up by other networks of which Paul handles and goes out to another audience of knowledgeable types. And Paul would like to say something. Hi, Paul. Welcome to the show.
[02:16:14] Unknown:
Hi there. I love that. I love that idea, Eric. That is delightfully cheeky because the biggest problem with these guys is they are, overinflated, with their own egos and their own sense of self importance. And when somebody actually shows them that just a a cheeky response to the crud they come out with, it's it's delightfully wonderful. I love that. I love that. Thanks.
[02:16:44] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I can give you a link to the report I did. And, if you suffer from, you know, if you if you if if, you wanna get off to sleep at night, that'd be good good reading. But, yeah, you'll you'll have a good laugh. And in fact, the local press picked it up, and then the national press picked it up because they said they'd never seen a report like it. But the council was so impressed that when I went to the council meeting, they completely ignored it. Seriously. They just didn't even read it. And, yeah. And, apparently, you're not allowed to speak.
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So, you know, I mean role. It's it's like the judge in the court, you know.
[02:17:21] Unknown:
Oh, yes. Well, who knows? Maybe maybe in our relatively imminent future, Eric and others that are listening, the role of a juror is coming into your life. It would be what you said earlier on about the jury and about the animation of the people and that they are rising up to the highest possible qualities of their behavior, This is extremely inspiring because it's in everyone. It's just completely sealed off, and they're demeaned and put down, and it's complete crap.
[02:17:50] Unknown:
You know? They take it very seriously. They take it really, really seriously. They are amazing. They're just brilliant. When they step into that role, something happens to them, and they are rigorous with the questions. It's just it's completely different from, obviously, a maritime, court Mhmm. Jurisdiction. And, they really come into their own, and they're so diligent in their work. No no stone is unturned. You know? No stone is left unturned with, you know, with their questions and everything, and they just do such amazing work. Yeah.
[02:18:31] Unknown:
The thing that I find, though, I mean, local councils, joking aside, I I find them very immature. Immature. You know, lady speaker, I mean, I I was, I I was in a debate. I was one not in a council, but someone said, you've got to address the chair. So I said, well, hello, chair. Where are you from? And I said, you take the mic. I said, yes. But I mean, that's it. You know? You're a nice chair. But, no, seriously, though, I find counselors to be exceptionally immature in an embarrassing way. I find it embarrassing that they're so immature. Oh, absolutely.
[02:19:06] Unknown:
Absolutely. And, I mean, we can't we brass. We have another caller. We have another caller coming in. Oh, brilliant. Brilliant. Oh. Yeah. I think it's Eli. I think it might be Eli Eli. Eli, I can you hear us? Are you there? I can hear you fine. I'm hoping my sound is okay. We can hear you. Yeah. That's fine. Yeah. Hello. Where are you going? American. Hannah, another another chap from America. Very good dear friend of mine. Eli, hi. Good afternoon to you. Yeah. Welcome to the show.
[02:19:33] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Greetings. Well, you you guys really started a problem here in America when you gave us the idea to have a county sheriff. Okay? Who who is not right? Who is not controlled by the government. Right? Here in America, the county sheriff basically rules the roost that he can tell every, federal bureaucrat to go fly a kite fly a kite. And he could he could prohibit any federal bureaucrat from even entering his county. I don't know if your county's having like, sheriff of Nottingham. Was he that kind of guy? Well Anna, was he that kind of guy?
[02:20:14] Unknown:
Probably. There was, there were sheriffs. There is, there's a peacekeeping act. I can't remember the year, but, basically, there were sheriffs, were created, after the French Revolution, in England, and there were French soldiers wandering around the country. And they created these cherries, to go around. They still exist in Scotland, but not not so much here. They're only ceremonial. But at the time, they were created to go around the country and disarm, these French soldiers that had been in the revolution, and that was their role. Oh. It was a peacekeeping role. Yeah.
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Would there be room, Hannah? Would there be room for sheriffs in the new county system, do you think? Could we bring them back? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I believe so. Yeah. Yeah. Six shooter maybe. Nice star. Big hat. Is it sheriff. Is it is it true, Hannah, that, we do the Brit
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that us, English do have the right to bear arms? Is it true? Well For some people, so it is. From the lawful. We we our home is our castle. We have the right to protect
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our property. But, obviously, we know the repercussions of that would be immense. So at this stage, I would I would air on the side of caution, and I would say, let's get the, the flag going and let's get the counties going and then ease into it. Do you know what I mean? Mhmm. I would like to see the, police officers, which as I said, they're nothing more than privatized, weaponized soldiers for the corporations. Oh, really? I'd like to see them disarmed under that act, that peacekeeping, that peacekeeping act. I can't remember the date of it. But if you put in peacekeeping act, something will come up, and you'll see what I'm talking about. It it is there, and it's never been repealed.
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Well, they're a private corporation, aren't they, the police?
[02:22:07] Unknown:
But there are peace officers. There there's a group that set themselves up. P e a c That's right. Peace officers. Yes. I don't know if you know anything about it. I I was I was gonna go along to I did. See see something about it, but, unfortunately, the person didn't turn up. So so I went to this place. And the first person's supposed to speak about it, they did turn up. So it was pretty good, actually. So we all sat around our conversation and went home.
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I can I can see that? Well,
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it's peace on. I never next to it. It's peace off. Peacekeepers. Yeah. If you can do peacekeepers, I'll just I would have the chef do them is to disarm the groomers and, not again.
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Eli, yeah. Would you like to say something? Sorry. We're we're all speaking at once here. It happens. It's we're all getting very excited. We're having too much fun. Please speak. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Well, the first thing I'd have the sheriff do is go over to Rotherham and disarm the illegal aliens. Yes. That are Yeah. Rotherham. White girls. Mhmm. Yep. Yeah. Rotherham. Yeah. Not not knocking not Nottingham. Rotherham. Right? It's not that far from the town.
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Oh, that is okay. But, I I have some, attire suggestion
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for your your county movement. Like, you know, you're Or an American giving English people fashion advice. Gosh.
[02:23:23] Unknown:
Yeah. That's right. That's right. I sent over a photograph of Danielle Smith, the premier of Alberta Mhmm. Who is leading a secession movement there to get to get away from socialist Canada and globalist Canada. Right? Yes. And she looks fantastic in a cowboy
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hat. Does she? Okay. And you're the 90 Manchester hat? Yeah.
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I used to be ninety Manchester. Cowboy hat's become a universal signature of of this of all our I don't know how. It's not gonna look good in England, though. We've often thought that in England, we should all wear bowlers. We're all gonna wear bowlers, we thought. We thought bowlers were like What's the Yorkshire? The Yorkshire lot could wear caps. They We wear flat caps up north. Okay. Alright. We'd have flat caps.
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Yeah. I can speak on a sandwich. Preserve.
[02:24:15] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, may maybe there's a hat for each county. Maybe certain counties are associated with certain hats. Hannah, are we just keeping you here forever? Have you got a bottle of Shabli to go to? I'm I'm I'm sort of sensitive to the fact it's so much fun that I don't really wanna let you go, but you might need to go. You know? It's just we're all being very rude now and sort of imposing on your time. No. No. You're not. Honestly, no. I am gonna get off. It's really interesting to hear the American accent and, you know, the the guys coming in from America because, obviously, one of the big themes is,
[02:24:46] Unknown:
you know, the global connection, the global family with Anna Von Reets' work and the American connection and the fact that, in truth Common law. Us English us English us English people screwed over the Americans big time. And, you know, we we actually really have to put we have to put things right because we've we've not only screwed ourselves over, but we screwed the Americans over too, or what are the powers that be. And so if we can sort if we can get our ducks in order, that's gonna help the Americans big time. And so it really is our duty to sort this out. You know? It is our duty. It really is. It is. It's our duty. Yeah. Yeah. It is. Yeah. Yeah. So Might might I suggest one more Yeah. One more Yeah.
[02:25:32] Unknown:
Might as might as suggest one more fashion statement, a bolo. You know what a bolo is? No. What's that? No. Charles Road. No. A bolo is a bolo is a Texas necktie, which can be used for various purposes. But it's basically like a a sleeve and a a couple of shoestrings, and you can have any kind of image, like, metallic image or saint the cross of Saint George, your your county symbol, and it would be right in the middle of your neck. Instead of a necktie, it's a bolo. I sent all the images, Pauly.
[02:26:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Can you send us a photo, please?
[02:26:12] Unknown:
Well well, I thought Yeah. That was sent to me. Come on. Yeah. We we we can start we can I mean, anything with the county, flag on it, we can turn it into anything, tote bags, you know, brooches, what you're what you're investing, really anything anything, cravat, scarves? Cravat would be nice. Along with my cigarettes and my cigarette holder, we could all be incredibly posh. What about a deer stalker? Ties, handkerchiefs.
[02:26:38] Unknown:
Deer stalkers. A deer stalker. That's a hat. Like a deer stalker hat. It's, that's what, oh, That's what Sherlock Holmes sports. Sherlock Holmes. Yeah. Sherlock Holmes with his pipe. Yeah. One of those deer stalker. It's a weird looking hat.
[02:26:52] Unknown:
Yeah. It's nice to know that we're moving on to serious topics now sitting such a late hour of the show. Yes. No. I'm not. It's We're making a good impression. We are. We are Yes. I have one. The most important thing, the merchandise.
[02:27:04] Unknown:
We're talking about the merchandise. And that is the Trojan horse, the merchandise.
[02:27:10] Unknown:
And the question that we never we didn't address tonight is the state of Donald Trump's trousers. Is there a tailor in the house that could sort him out? Because I've never seen a man with such a bad pair of trousers.
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So There's about four yards of material there with nothing in it, isn't it?
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In the wind, Jersey's walking along.
[02:27:34] Unknown:
I have I have something notice over here, Eli and Paul. We we notice trousers a lot. We've got a very keen eye on trousers. Yes. And, it's just as a national bias, we're always looking at people's trousers and saying they're not right.
[02:27:48] Unknown:
Well, I I have something on the street. How about trouser braces?
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What were they? With the county emblem running down the brace. Yeah. That would be great. Of course, in America, they call them suspenders. So Oh, I said,
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yeah. Okay. Okay. Suspenders.
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Yeah. That's that's more cowboy attire. But one more item, though. I'm really partial to Robin Hood's hat.
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Oh. Really partial to that. Okay. Actually, in your Eli, with your beard, it would possibly suit you. You got you might have a nice feather that goes with it. You want one of those sort of, you know, merry men in green in the forest hats. We could probably get one sorted out for you. I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. You'd look good. You might be slightly closer to Friar Talk, I suppose, but that that wouldn't be fair of me to say such a thing, but I just did. No. No. Can I get in here for a minute? Let's be polite. But,
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yeah. But, yeah, I mean, all image is everything, said another American of tennis player. Andre. Andre. What's his last name? Not Dawson. Andre. Andre. Yeah. No. No. Andre, he he he won a couple of titles. I just can't think of his last name right. Andre Agassi. Sounds French, but he's actually married. Yeah. So yeah. Every there's everything. Yeah. He impressed me. What's that? You know, that that's a conversation story. What do you what what is that? It's oh, it's a bolo.
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Well, maybe, Eli, when you when you next visit when you next visit England, not The United Kingdom, you never visit you never ever visit. No one's ever been to The United Kingdom. It's just an ethereal nonsense concept. It doesn't exist. Yeah. But when you next come to England, maybe you'll be going driving through streets with flags flying everywhere, people wearing hats covered in county flags, and a completely different sense of purpose about the English because it's required. It's absolutely required. It's our duty to bring it back. Yeah. Actually We're gonna bring it back. We're gonna bring it back. It's coming back. But the, union
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union flag Union Jack flag will be defunct. Won't won't won't it, Anna? Surely, we'd have to have another flag,
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because Union Jack is I mean, I I yeah. I well, I kind of like I like the flag that Paul, had on the, on the radio station, you know, photo. I think that's amazing. I think the the the, I think the younger generation will really take to that. They will. And I think that, I mean, you know, there would be some people that said would state that it was never, truly an official flag for England. But, as we're as we're starting, with a new beginning, I'm I I think that we could get away with it. You know? And, and why not? Because it's just so much more fun than the,
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than the other flags. You know? Let me let me give you the description of it. It says this. The white dragon flag is a historical symbol associated with England, particularly the Anglo Saxons and early English kings. It's often depicted as a white dragon on a red background symbolizing strength, resilience, and the spirit of battle. While not the official national flag, who cares about that, it holds significance as an ancient emblem and is sometimes used to represent English heritage. Bingo. What else do we need? Bam. And you're right that the youth will love it. It's fantastic in t shirts. And I'm I'm as I said, I'm clearing my garden. I'm gonna get the most enormous versions of this, and I'm gonna have them flying at three corners of my garden.
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They're just gonna be there. And I'll take I'll take some video footage and show you all in a few weeks when I've got them up because I want them. I cannot wait. I can't wait. We need to talk to your son as well. Yeah. And because I think we need to involve the youth with all of this. We need to we need to we need to be empowering the youth, and and let it let them bring all their skills to it, because that's how we reconnect them with the land and the sword jurisdiction, and we empower them. So this this this ridiculous situation that we're all in now, where we're in a debt slave and we're all bonded slave system is gone. It's just gone forever. You know?
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I can see football I can see football crowds taking this up if we can get it in with leaders in football crowds so that they're all carrying this white dragon. All no matter what team you support, what county it is, it doesn't matter. You've got two flags. You have a white dragon for for the Anglo Saxon flag as it were of England and you've got one for your county or your team. It doesn't matter. We can get into all of that stuff. All of that stuff we can get into. Love it. Love it. Love it. It's gonna be fantastic. Hannah, it's been absolutely brilliant. Brilliant having alright. One last comment from Paul. Anybody wanna say last words before Hannah goes over to a bottle of Chablis or whatever? Yes. Yes. One one last comment.
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It's as far as the sheriffs, the sheriffs, yes, most of them are, they're elected by the people, but there are a number of places in The United States where the sheriffs are actually appointed. There are other places in The United States where there is no sheriff at all. There are other places in The United States where the sheriff is duly elected by the people, but they are shuffled off to Washington DC for two weeks for indoctrination and whatever else they do. And when they come back, they're wearing the badge of the people and the stripe on the pant, but they are absolutely no better than the policy enforcers that are at the behest of the bankers and
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the corrupt government and the corrupt judiciary. Same with all the same with all the police constables. Same as all the police constables in this country. They start off with good intentions, wanting to, keep the peace and protect the people. They're trained somewhere, and they're brainwashed, and then they come out as nothing more than corporate soldiers, armed corporate soldiers.
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They come out as weapons. And extremely dangerous. Yeah. So so talk to your local sheriff. Find out find out if he actually took his oath to the constitution of your land seriously, find out if he's actually there to protect and serve the people or if he's there to enforce policy. And if he's there to enforce policy, you go to work campaigning against him to put somebody in that office that will.
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Paul Paul. Amen. We do not we do not have any sheriffs now in England. They exist in Scotland. In England, there are ceremonial sheriffs of the county, which are absolutely ridiculous. They have absolutely no powers, or if they have any powers, they do not use them. And it's
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they just don't exist here at the moment. So that's something that we will definitely be looking at. You know what? They're gonna sport the English sheriffs, don't you? And the Americans, of course, have the star, but ours are gonna have a silver dragon. That's what we'll do. That white dragon, I've just thought that's the badge. You're gonna get a silver one. Silver's very Wow. There you go. So we got that and you can get you get your sheriff's badge. It's the gear. They'll all fear the gear. We get the gear out there Yeah. And it's just sending signals out everywhere.
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Everywhere. Absolutely. It's what we need. Absolutely.
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I love it. Well, now, well, there you go.
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Now, gentlemen, we've got to let our dear friend go now because See you, Alice. It's the it's the right thing and polite thing to do. Hannah, wonderful. I look forward to speaking to you in the weeks to come, and we'll do some highlights and stuff like that. And, hopefully, I'll look forward to seeing you up in London on August 11 on that Monday. And we'll Amazing. I will do so. Enjoyed it. Thank you. Thank you, Hannah. Can't wait to have you back. Fantastic. Absolutely wonderful, Hannah. Bye. Really enjoyed it. Bye for now. Bye, Paul. Bye bye. Bye. Bye. I
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was just gonna tell Hannah that god bless. That's all I was gonna say.
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Well, we'll we're gonna have plenty of opportunities.
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Yep. You guys will be so, spiffily attired that everybody will be envious of your whole movement and wanna join. Yep.
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Yeah. That's a good point. That's a very good point. You know?
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I think that ultra smart We've talked about this, haven't we, Eric? We've talked about dress. We've talked about dress. Premasons even. Yeah. You you've mentioned regularly, Eric, the fact that people dress like slobs and stuff like this. And I'm not even blaming them. It's just that they do right now it's not good if we provide it's just true it's it's not good you know we dress like children I include myself at times I'm in tracksuit bottoms too after because it's convenient and easy but I'm telling you if I've got a silver dragon sheriff's badge to put on it might sort of come out even as a brooch I could see women wanting one. Don't you think? You know those glittery brooches that they want on the lap? All of this is a signaling system to one another that we are back, you know, this is England. We're having it back as our forefathers built it connected into all of those good qualities that we come from that are being crushed by this UCC system, the merchant system, the money power, whatever word we want to use to describe it that's been pushed out. So we've I think, you know, the fact that this is so simple and direct and emblematic is very important. Symbols have got I think we've kind of covered it. You get Turnbull as hell. Just discussing it. It's just it's not rocket science. It just makes sense. It's an exciting I agree with you. It really is. But, I mean, I find that when I put my whistle and flute on sorry. That's Cockney Rhyming slang for suit. You mean you're not wearing it now, Eric, for the show? Well,
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I'm afraid I'm I'm in shorts as well, but,
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you're in your string vest, aren't you? I know what's going on. Oh, yeah. But
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peep
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people actually No kilts. No kilts, please.
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Oh, bloody hell. No. I won't wear skirts, you mean, not kilts.
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Instead of he's got some proud Scots here, listening. They're crazy.
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Yeah. Skirts and shirts. Skirts and shirts. There you go. But now people actually treat you differently. When you got a whistling flute on, people do treat you differently. It's it's quite surprising. Know that? But, I think also what they did in Sweden, which they said was extremely powerful, there was the minister of, oh, it was in who was wanting more and more migration to Swi Swinney Sweden. So what they did is they made, like, a, a dummy up of this minister complete with a face of him and everything in a suit. And they did you know what they did to Mussolini? When they hang him up upside down, they put this dummy upside down on a lamppost outside the Parliament Building.
And it was a it was a January gray day, and it was really sinister to see his dummy just hanging there. You know? And it sent a big message to those inside the building. A big message. You know? There you go. Things like that. Yeah. It it's quite surprising. But So if you got the tar, I got the feathers. Yes.
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Can I sneak in?
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Sir hello? Certainly.
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Yeah. Am I actually on here?
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You sure you are on here. Hi, guest. Hello, guest. Paul,
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Paul, this is Samuel from Rogers Show. Yeah. I would like to point out a book for you gentlemen and for the lady that was just on Hannah. There I actually got my copy was the last one I bought on Amazon, and it came from Yorkshire County Library. Right. It's called the book of the hundreds, and it's from Helen Cam. Yeah. And she was a medieval, historian and scholar that talks about your wonderful country before and after October
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and the power of I've got a copy, Samuel. Samuel, I've got a copy. Okay. I've it's just behind my head. I mentioned it to her in passing. I've I've not got around to reading, but you're you mentioned it, I think, on Rogers' show some time ago. And, I went off and got it. So absolute you know? Yeah. We will
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I'll I'll we'll big that up. My copy actually came from your library.
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Yeah.
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I I find that quite quite funny. It can come from Yorkshire County Library.
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Oh, we've got libraries up there, Samuel. They've got books and things up north as well as whippets and flap caps. We've got books. No. They're very bookish people, Northerners, actually. But then we all are over it. I suppose we're quite bookish. Listen. Can you just hold the line a second? Because we've got another I've got another person. King Lion is lined up and I just want to bring him on too. Okay? Here we go. King Lion. Hi. Welcome to the show.
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Hey, Paul. Fantastic show, mate. I had to call you. It's the first time I've plugged in, and I've gotta commend you guys for a sterling show. Absolutely kicking. Wonderful. Thank you for for for the the the information that Hannah dispensed this evening was absolutely fabulous. It was. Very much required. Yeah. Absolutely brilliant. Do you know what I mean? So Mhmm. I do hope that, you know, give her another opportunity to come and keep us updated in relation to developments. But I won't be leaving her alone.
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I'll be pestering her all the time. I've had two fantastically long phone calls even before this, which were nearly as long as this show. And it's just trying to pair it all down and getting it into little bite sized lumps but the idea is hitting everybody that this is simple and direct and there's something that everybody can do that's not going to cost a fortune but must cost something because that's your kind of commitment into the thing and we're gonna get away. We're gonna get going with this. It's absolutely key. It'll work. You can feel it's gonna work just in the conversation. It's gonna work this.
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Yeah. And what what is true in terms of what she's saying in terms of the cost, she's absolutely right. Because people only value things if there's a price on it. If you give it away to them for nothing, they don't really appreciate. So That's right. There must be a cost that your intrinsic, your intrinsic input into the thing to support the things that the things can grow and thrive and keep on growing. And we definitely need this. So again, I'll just take my hat off to you guys. Fantastic show. I'll be listening on the regular, and I just wanna say keep on keeping on keeping doing the great work you're doing. We're gonna keep doing that, King Lion. Thanks very much for calling. It's much appreciated. Thank you very much. Thank you. You too. You too. You too. Bye bye. Bye
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bye. Certainly a show tonight, ain't it? Ain't it Paul? It's an absolutely wonderful one. It's because it's lit the touch paper that we've been nibbling around for two It has.
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It has. It is. It is. It is. It is spot on. It has lit
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the touch paper. It really has. Mhmm. Yeah. And I I wanna thank Lisa again for setting it all up. Lisa, thank you so much for setting this up because she just sent me a message about two or three weeks ago. So do you know about Hannah? I said no. You need to get in touch. I think she'd be really good on the show. And it's just taken it right into that space of pragmatics, simplicity, but all rooted the fact that obviously that she has the background that she has, that she comes from the world of the barristers and found out what it was all about and has gone through certain I mean she didn't go into all the details but she was with me the other day. Many of the sort of harrowing situations she's had to deal with to get up to this.
It's like what's that phrase? She's got skin in the game. We all have and I think when you realize that and get it it it gives you that fire and that urgency about what we're involved with and that's the thing that's the thing that's to be transmitted and it ignites the spirit literally. This has been a very spirited conversation, I think. It's been high energy all the way through, and it was absolutely right, I think, to let Hannah hold court for the first hour. It was I was kinda worn out after that first hour. I don't know what it's like for the listeners. I went, oh, wow. But it was absolutely perfect thing, and we've just moved it on. It's been, a tremendous use of time tonight. It really has. You can forget all the other shows. This is the only one that counts up to press. I don't mean that but That's right. It's, it's been quite a thing. Yeah. Really has.
So, very interesting as well what she said I thought about that she's not fully involved with the English County's Assembly. So I don't know how I feel about the word assembly but, it'd be very interesting to see us speak on that Monday. So if you do go along, Eric, there'll be no show that night unless I was even thinking I might be take my laptop along. We might even be able to pick it up and stream it out over Radio Soapbox at least and get it sent out that way. If not, yeah, I'll try and get a recording of it because I, yeah, it's like tapping into an event, you know. We could just do a live recording. It's just sort of like and there we go over and, you know, our local reporter Eric Von Essex is in the hall and bang. Well, why not? There he is in his toilet chain and wearing the fuck them whole garb, which is bloomers in the window, whatever it's gonna be.
I
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don't mind. You know? Yeah. Brilliant. Absolutely fantastic. That's it.
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You do. The thing is not everybody has the whole picture. And Yvonne Wright, she does have some good stuff. She's got a lot of information, and Yep. She's a prolific writer. However, she hasn't figured out how to keep the IRS at bay. I mean, they have a full blown judgment for $1,200,000, and they're selling they're selling off her property. So she doesn't have everything, but she has a lot. You know, Roger Well, I doesn't have everything, you know, with, like, the all caps name and this, that, and the other thing, but he has a lot. He's got the he's got the feudal system and the basis for that. It's Mhmm.
It's going to take going back to the county level to the people, the people as the authority, and, we're just gonna have to rebuild from scratch, I think, because I don't think there's any way to fix the mess.
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I think you're right. But the blueprint's there, the framework's there. So much good work has been done. It's it's an acknowledgment of all the good work in the past. Now that it's unearthed and seen for why it was good, you go, well, we want it back. So we're gonna have it back because it turns out that we are the ones that have the power. And I thought particularly when she was talking about the jurors and the experience that they go for For sure. That is so compelling. When she told me on the phone the other day, I just thought this is just a matter it's so brilliant because you can see people in your mind's eye as she was talking about it behaving at the highest possible standards they can achieve and I just thought you know I've mentioned here about over here when she said that there's 80,000 trials they're using that as an excuse to say well, we can't run jury trials because it's 80,000, so you've got to let judges decide. No. That means we've now got 80,000 opportunities to run to to build up jury, experience and expertise in the nation and to and to look at that. That's what we're gonna do. Not quite. It's like parking tickets. Every single thing that goes into court, there should be a jury day. It's only a parking ticket. I don't care. Listen to it. So it only took five minutes. You know, you can go to the bar now. Let's get on with it. Let's rattle through it. Let's deal with it. Make it alive.
Whereas what they do with their wordiology, these colossal documents that nobody can read, no one's got the time to read this stuff. I mean, you've mentioned before, Paul, that I think in the senate or whatever, they get these bills that come through, nobody reads them. They can't. That's 500 pages long. Yeah. Yeah. And it's 600 to thousand pages. Signed it off. Plus the point is insane.
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And and if anybody has to read it, they say you have to vote on it before you can read it. Once you vote on it, you can read it all you want. And, of course, there's absolutely no time. But the the thing is, 80,000 cases, that's absolutely ridiculous because it's all done under statutory administrative law, and that is how they are funding the government through the judiciary. You gotta get rid of the statutory law and go back to the common law, and that is where the juries come in because there actually has to be an injury. There has to be a loss or a harm inflicted.
Who cares if if you're walking a dog on a beach and there's a municipal code that says dogs aren't allowed there? You get dragged into court for that. It it's it's absolutely ridiculous. The law is completely
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out of control. Absent. It's completely absent. It's not present in our life in terms of the way that it needs to be. You know, I've mentioned a guy here on the show. I just wanna read you a quick thing. I actually put a repost on my, Twitter or x feed the other day. There's a guy, he's called Legal Man. He does, a podcast called the Quash'. I've mentioned it before, it's brilliant. I think it's brilliant. It's definitely US centric. It would be. He's a US lawyer. I might have got his term but he's a legally trained man And, you got you need to if you're on X, he's definitely worth subscribing to and I think he's just opened up his his account so that you can comment on it. Before, up until recently, no one could comment on it but they can now. He wrote this the other day. This is about The US situation but it really extends here because it's about a principle. He says, I've never heard a single actual explanation for how this system is supposed to work when the population openly and obviously totally disagrees with each other about what's even supposed to happen. How can such a population ever come together and make it happen? It makes no sense. Then you layer on top of that the fact that the entire government structure is a criminal enterprise that operates without any actual consent of the people.
Then you layer on top of that the fact that the entire society is forced to run on a completely fake money system that's controlled by a small group outside even any ostensible control except the outside even any ostensible control except the criminal enterprises of government. And still, people think we can turn things around if we just come together and vote the right way. Lol. How exactly can any of that happen? The delusions are so deeply embedded. It's fascinating to watch. Well, he's absolutely right on that, but I think today we've touched we've more than touched upon, certainly for here, for this neck of the woods, at least something that would applies to our culture and our people and that's what's needed. It's got to be local, I e national, each nation, tapping into their roots of all the good strong men and good men of the past and saying look this stuff that was put together has just been shunted aside, overlaid. We are distracted, you know, the great distractathon, but we've not been distracted tonight, I would suggest. I think for three hours, we've been absolutely on it. It's been just wonderful.
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I've really enjoyed myself tonight. The guy the guy was spot on. Everything he said was absolutely true.
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Everything. It is. And it he's definitely worth subscribing to because it it's all of his posts are shot through with a complete pragmatic realism about how things actually work and why you are encouraged to do things which will continue to make it not work, like vote harder. You know? That if only we vote. Yeah. It's just insane. It's nuts. I was, I was on a feed I mentioned it I think Eric on your show on Monday. I was on a live feed from the Reform party the other day and there's lots of good people in the comments it was on YouTube. The interesting thing was that after the stream had ended, there were still 500 people on there for three and four hours later banging messages in and out to one another. And of course, you've got people saying, well, I'm voting for them and this is our only chance. And other people saying, no. No. It's no chance at all. He he won't be able to do anything. I'm not blaming him. It's just a matter of, you know, taking this process apart and saying, stop doing the voting crap. It's insane. You don't need to do it. It's a waste of time.
And the best way we can demonstrate to people that it's a waste of time is by giving ourselves and them something constructive to do and I think we've more than touched upon some very simple steps that many many people could do and, you know, we've talked here about numbers. The fact that Hannah is absolutely onto the numbers thing. This is why when I first started speaking to her, she's saying all these simple things. I'm going, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is it. This is it's about numbers. So if you if you get hundreds or thousands of flags flying in towns, if you get a lot of people turning up doing things, it's a completely different ballgame.
It's suddenly you go oh wow there's power down there on the street, yeah there is, it's in every harm and these people are getting clued up and we've now got something I think to put all this communications technology behind and say look we can we can speed up the process of people, you know, going from a position of I don't know what's going on but I like it. Well that's good so get involved, right? Go with your gut to, you know, after three months I now know a little bit more. After a year I know everything. Right? Good. I know all the real pragmatic things about how we do it and I even when she was touching on the travelers, it's so true. We are distanced from that. Over here these people are hammered in the culture, and it's only the negative aspects put. She's right about them being free.
They their children behave like I used to be able to behave in the 60s just running around in fields and chasing cows and hitting cowpats with golf clubs and you know knocking shit all over my that's what I used to do. My mum didn't worry about just be back at seven or six your tea's ready. No mobile phones nothing just life. Absolutely brilliant. Sitting on the trees, dreaming about things, getting creative.
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That we need all that back. That's what they've crushed out of this thing. There is one thing that voting does. The voter registration and the voter turnout. The one thing that the voting does is it reaffirms to them that their bullshit, that their Mhmm. Their fakery and their lies is working, and the bulk of the people are buying it. That's the problem.
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It does. It absolutely does that. It absolutely does do that. Anyway, look, we got a few minutes to go. Eric, I'm looking forward to seeing you in your ball and chain or whatever it's gonna be. Oh, yeah. Sheesh.
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Toilet chain ring, I mean, yeah. But, you know, I
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sorry. Carry on. One of the things I meant to bring up, so I'm saying this now in case I forget when she's on next or whatever, is about over here public notaries. I'm interested in the role of public notaries. It's a a downplayed role. But, again, as far as I understand, although this is likely well, obviously, still in their system, public notaries have the power to convene juries. They can they can do that within the but, of course, if they're not gonna hold any jury trials, it's a power that's irrelevant if they're not gonna exercise it. So the idea that we don't even need their system at all, and I just this is such a release of energy because I, you know, absolutely we don't need any of this stuff. Like you've said, we don't need a government because it's a menace.
We would be better off without it. It's an absolute damaging influence. Well You know, I I I that's why I keep listening to all the news stuff. I'm trying to hear their language change. It's getting very close, but there's someone in the editorial department. They're going they're still saying things like, it's awful what they're doing. This is terribly outrageous, Blah blah blah. Can you believe the management of this country? And whereas the actual communication is the government's our enemy and it's destroying our way of life. It needs to be overthrown. We need to remove it completely. That's the language we're gonna go to. That's the language we've got to go to, you know. Yes. And also using the word treason.
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People don't use the word treason very often, but we don't hear it at all now. These people in power are traitors, and and there's nothing more nothing more to be said. Treason. That's what that it is. You know? So, Yeah. Yes. I don't know. I think that, I'm very optimistic after tonight. Very optimistic. And let's keep our fingers crossed, you know.
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What's your flag like anyway for Essex? What's the Essex flag like? Is that is that what you'd get, or do you get another one? Which is No. No. Art Hertfordshire. Because I'm in Hertfordshire, and I
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so my one is the stag with the wavy lines underneath.
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Stag,
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It's a stag. Yes. A bit of a stag. Yes. Nice. I see. I
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hear you. Stud bluffing.
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Got a stag party. You know? Yeah. A bit of a laugh, ain't it? Anyway, I don't know about you, but I I've been up early this morning. I'm a bit of cream clackard. By the way, are you coming on on Monday,
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Paul? I don't know what we're gonna talk about. Everything's gonna be completely like, oh, we're gonna have to rev it up now. We're gonna have to gonna have to take extra PepPab tablets. We've gotta I wanna stay on this really big time. So, but I think that what time well, we can't everything that we talk about dovetails into this but this sort of gives an action point and that's so useful and I know that there are there are other people working with her on other sides and when she was talking about my son and stuff like that because I just mentioned I said look if you want us to develop shops to sell this stuff I'm happy to help I really want to do it because we can we these flags are already being made you can get that flag right You can get the flag with the white dragon on it. There are people making them. All sorts of so the flag makers everywhere.
That whole thing. I just I like the idea of a pencil though. I've just taken your idea, mate. Well We like a pencil. Yeah. The pencil is mightier than the sword, you know. It is. And That's right. We can use it to work things out, can't we? Yeah. So get your pencil and we can work anything out with a pencil and a piece of paper. Easy peasy lemon squeezy. And I also like the idea what the kamikaze pilots wore. That's a bandana
[02:58:12] Unknown:
tied round with the county logo on the front of the bandana. That's another powerful thing. And also in the back of your car. The county sign in the back of your car. You know? Just you could print that off and stick it stick it in your window. See? So there's a thousand one things we can do. That's right.
[02:58:34] Unknown:
I can't wait for my flags around here. I'm telling you, we get a lot of wind here. Of all of all varieties. No. It's it's it was the home of, well, I'm reasonably sure. You know windsurfing when they put sails on surfboards? Yeah. I think it started here. I'm serious, because there's no surf here. You can't go surfing, even though they've tried to build artificial, reefs down the coast, which they have I think. They put sort of the, you know, 8,000 tons of concrete or something and it Yeah. Causes it to kick up. But all of the windsurfing stuff where was I going with this? I've got completely at my rear end. Oh, yeah. We it means we've got a lot of wind. We do. And the flags down here, there's a Canadian flag that flies all the time because it was a staging point for World War two. Lots of Canadian troops. Yeah. It gets all the flags get shredded in the wind. You only have to go back after two or three weeks and they're just torn to bits because the wind gets really strong. It's just blowing and they just get it's quite good. So probably a lot of resale of flags around here. That's probably a driving little business busyness.
But, you know,
[02:59:41] Unknown:
but but you can actually get flags easy. They're they're made on the Internet. It's surprising what you can get on the Internet. You know, the the Tinted at that. EBay. EBay. That's my favorite. I don't really go much on Amazon, but eBay is my my favorite. And you well, that's where I got the pencils from. Dirt cheap, and they got machines. But, anyway, excuse me. I'm gonna zoom off now. I'll speak I'll speak to you probably sometime tomorrow, Paul.
[03:00:09] Unknown:
Been great, Eric. Been great, Paul. That was Been great. Great Eli. Fantastic, Hannah, even though I know you're not here. Thanks, Hannah. Everybody that's been typing away like mad. As you can tell, it was difficult to read things because we were so in it and on it tonight. It's been quite a show. Different sort of energy level which has just been fantastic. We look forward to talking about a lot more and making flags available as soon as we can get our act together. I'm I wanna get all that sorted out and shirts or any other ideas. We're gonna go into the tut business and it's gonna be the most powerful tut you ever saw in your life. So Yeah. It gives us something to focus on. Wonderful. Fantastic. Have a cracking weekend, Eric and everybody else. You too. We'll be back same we'll be back same time next week. Eric's here with Fockem Hall on, Sundays and Mondays at 8PM, so tune in for that. Thanks. And, if you want the Telegram channel, you'll find the link on paulenglishlive.com. God bless you all. Here we go. A bit of fun coming up and a bit more than that. See you next week. Bye for now. Bye.
[03:01:21] Unknown:
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[03:01:27] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Fun storming the castle.
Introduction and Weather Chat
Remembering Sussex Man
Hannah Bader's Journey
Hannah's Legal Career and Challenges
Hannah's Awakening and New Path
Creating the Community Law Court
The Power of Trial by Jury
The Significance of Flags and Identity
Reclaiming Land and Rights
The Role of Assemblies and Future Plans
Humor and Creativity in Activism
Closing Thoughts and Optimism
