In this enlightening episode, DJ Val welcomes Holly Berkley, a multifaceted expert in finance, technology, and spirituality, to discuss the transformative power of Bitcoin and its role in conscious money for humanity. Holly shares her unique journey from a career in the arts and Wall Street to becoming a spiritual guide and Bitcoin advocate. The conversation delves into Holly's spiritual awakening, her transition from corporate America, and her insights into the global shift towards personal and soul sovereignty.
Holly discusses her early skepticism of Bitcoin and how a pivotal interview with Michael Saylor and Ross Stevens in 2021 changed her perspective, leading her to embrace Bitcoin as a key component of global transformation. The episode also explores the impact of planetary energies, the significance of the current lunar eclipse, and the broader cosmic shifts influencing humanity.
Listeners are encouraged to embrace their intuitive nudges, find their "frequency tribe," and envision a world of peace, love, and freedom. Holly emphasizes the importance of clearing personal and collective traumas to align with higher consciousness and the emerging new earth.
The episode concludes with a discussion on collaborative custody and the innovative work of The Bitcoin Advisor, where Holly is a key member, helping individuals secure their Bitcoin and plan for the future.
Resources mentioned in this episode include:
- Holly Berkeley on Twitter
- The Bitcoin Advisor
- Undefended Love by Jett Psaris and Marlena Lyons
- NYDIG
- Stoneridge Asset Management
- Pacific Bitcoin Conference
- Orangebridge
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(00:00:32) Introduction and Guest Welcome
(00:01:00) Holly's Journey to Bitcoin
(00:02:34) Career Shifts and Spiritual Awakening
(00:06:33) Personal Growth and Holistic Health
(00:10:14) Bitcoin and Spirituality
(00:13:34) Astrological Influences and Energies
(00:17:32) Soul Sovereignty and Personal Evolution
(00:24:30) Energy Medicine and Healing
(00:33:45) Challenges with Traditional Therapy
(00:48:34) Plant Medicine and Healing Experiences
(01:02:50) Intuition and Following Nudges
(01:16:38) Clearing Conditioning and Connecting to Source
(01:31:31) Collaborative Custody and Bitcoin Advisor
(01:40:38) Future of Bitcoin and Consciousness Shift
(01:48:19) Practical Tips for Navigating Change
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Unknown:
Hey. Aloha, love tribe. So I have the privilege, and you do too because your ears and your eyes are gonna get to hear and see somebody who I've been following for quite a while, and we've become friends over the the heart and the soul of how Bitcoin is connecting us and how Bitcoin is transforming us from the inside out and not just, you know, number go up. But Holly Berkeley is somebody who is so special. You guys are gonna love this episode. We're gonna be talking about conscious money for humanity. And, you know, Holly, I would love for you to tell everybody, like, how did you get to become a Bitcoiner? And you've got, like, you've got an insane past.
[00:01:12] Unknown:
And then all of a sudden, here you are with, like, consciousness and Bitcoin and humanity. So welcome, Holly, and, thanks so much for taking time to be on the show. I am so happy to be here, and I always love spending time with you, DJ Val. This is, like, so much fun. It's just like, yay. Fun time. Shirt. I know. I saw your shirt. You're like, I wore that shirt for you, Val. Just for you. Because it was, like, really fun and playful and paisley, and it's it's just a Val shirt. So I had to wear it so we could play today. Totally.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So let's see. Where do you let's see. Where should we start? How have I gotten into Bitcoin or how I just, like let me just give it What's your background? Because you're back I mean, you've got such a huge background as, you know, a a financial woman, a technologist,
[00:01:53] Unknown:
and personal growth, and everything. And and, obviously, now doing doing, like, spirituality and Bitcoin. Like, how the heck did all that stuff
[00:02:01] Unknown:
happen? And what's your arc? Like, what's your story arc? As soon as I get this thing out of my eye. Yes. Let me kind of back up, you know, a few decades here. I always say I've had, like, an incredibly broad range of careers and experiences, really big zigs and zags. A lot of people have a very kind of, you know, straight trajectory and mine has not been that way at all. You know, and I I look back and I go, that's nuts. But I also look back on it and go, I'm really grateful for it. Yeah. Way, way, way back when, I was in the arts. I used to be a dancer, did classical ballet for ten years, and and then moved into the art field. My whole family was in the arts and ended up working for Christie's Fine Arts in in Madison. And, you know, a couple of galleries in London and was into art restoration. That's what I graduated in.
Chemistry and and languages and, you know, weird amalgam of different things graduating college. But you can't live on that in New York. I mean, there's no way you can live on an art salary in New York. So I ended up talking my way into the back office of a primary dealer and just doing back office reconciliation. It's like, okay. Fine. And it was just really easy. And they looked at me, and they went, we think you'd make a good trader. Do you know? Do you wanna do that? And I'm like, sure. So I I studied and got my, hang on one second. I've got something in my eye.
Got my series seven license Okay. Which was, you know, quite a shift. Yep. And so I ended up trading for a couple of years. What's that? It's a big deal to do that. It was a big deal, especially because I didn't have a financial, you know, training background. I studied my tail off and got the series seven, traded fixed income arbitrage with this primary dealer for a couple of years, but I wasn't sleeping at night. I mean, I some people have, like, a trader personality where they just love taking on risk, and I wasn't that. And I was, like, not sleeping. I had $1,500,000,000 trades on, and I'm, like, up all night. So I just started teaching myself computer languages and started writing software for myself that I needed. You know, like fixed income, yield curve analysis, stuff like that.
And ended up moving into the back side of the firm, the research side of the firm, and doing all this, you know, tech stuff. So I kinda got into tech through the backdoor, not through a front comp sci degree or anything like that. Got it. And and worked on Wall Street for a couple of years, you know, developing, software for various firms, Muni bond broker, stuff like that. And ended up opening, opening up the Manhattan office for Sun Microsystems, which is a really hot firm at the time. So I was head of tech support for Manhattan, which was nuts.
Holy. Banks, brokerages, you know, insurance companies, all this kind of stuff. And then my last corporate job was, director of corporate technology strategy for American Express. So doing pilot programs for the five business units. So that was kind of like the, you know, the, tech and finance aspect of my career. But I had an event happen to me, a personal event happen to me that really it kinda red pilled me on on the corporate matrix. Now there's the red pill and the orange pill. I had a red pill experience of what is corporate America. And it really it kinda woke me up, not just to that, but more of, you know, who are we? Everything is energy. We are spiritual beings having a human experience. Holy.
You you're gonna date me. I mean, like, it was a long time ago. A long time ago. A minute ago. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I mean, like yeah. I'm basically a boomer. So this was, you know, if I really tell you, I mean, it was 1991.
[00:05:43] Unknown:
Wow. So you were having, like you know, you're involved in Wall Street. You're in tech. You're in all of this, and then all of a sudden, you're having this kind of spiritual awakening. I had a spirit and an event an event that happened. 04/15/1991,
[00:05:57] Unknown:
you know, in a hotel room in San Francisco. I mean, I I can, you know, exactly where I was. And it just took What what was the the trigger of the event? Can't even it was a personal thing that happened, and I can't even go there. You know? But, it kinda rug pulled my my, version of what is reality. You know, what you know to be true, what you know to be reality, and it just totally rug pulled that. I was like, woah. If that's not true, then any of the other things true? Dude. You know, what is reality? And I I I had this, palpable experience of, you know, we are much larger than this three d human experience.
Yeah. So, you know, after I kind of did that and started going down that rabbit hole and and going to meditation retreats and studying Reiki and studying traditional Oriental medicine and I couldn't stay in the corporate world anymore. So I ended up, you know, consulting back for a while just to kinda do a transition between the two worlds and then develop my own my own practice, which I've had for the last thirty five years.
[00:06:55] Unknown:
Long time. Isn't it crazy? It's nuts. That's totally nuts. When you you told me, like, both of our ages, I think, defy gravity. You know? Like and because I still don't believe you. I think you you're not telling the truth. This
[00:07:10] Unknown:
is what clean living does. I mean, this is the thing. Be because I kinda got into holistic health care Yeah. I've been doing that for thirty five years, and it's like, I I really love teasing, you know, Larry Lippard because, you know, he he's always doing all this CrossFit stuff and saying CrossFit. And I'm a year old I'm a year older than he is, you know. I'm like, I got this. I got this, Larry. You know, the clean eating, all the good exercise, the really taking care of myself, meditation, all the things that, you know, that Bitcoiners kinda discover, all their personal sovereignty things that they discover, I've been doing for a really, really long time. So, you know, that's why I'm happy and healthy and, you know, to Sage.
[00:07:49] Unknown:
Well, so I wanna ask you because, you know, a lot of times so so next Tuesday, okay, you know, I know we're talking about this prior to to hitting record. We're gonna be doing, a live spaces with Lauren and Tomer. And some people, like, are on a journey and then all of a sudden they discover Bitcoin and then they have a spiritual awakening. Right. Like, you and I are different because we've had spiritual awakenings decades ago. And then Bitcoin was sort of like this little, I always call it, like, the trivial pursuit cheese, you know, and it's kind of like, oh, that's the missing ingredient that we did for the whole system, which is this conscious money. Right?
[00:08:30] Unknown:
So Right. Yeah. It was like it was like the puzzle piece. So Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I heard about Bitcoin in 2017.
[00:08:36] Unknown:
And because of my tech and finance background, I totally discounted it. I'm like, I totally dismissed it. It's like, this isn't money. I know what money is. Right? Totally. Right. And Exactly. Yeah. Isn't that the weirdest thing? I know. And I worked with Deloitte and Touche. I started a fund with my ex husband, and I'm like, I know what money is. And then I was like Right. You don't know what the fuck money is. Like, you know what finance is, but you don't know what money is. At all not at all. Totally different. You know? So that's, like Exactly. Complain experience. So let's talk about that. Like, how did it how did your brain start going? You know? Well, it wasn't until
[00:09:06] Unknown:
I heard, and it was it was late January, early February of '20 '1. And I heard the, Michael Saylor and Ross Stevens sixty minute interview because they were doing Bitcoin for corporations conference. You know, Saylor was doing that. Yeah. And, I assume everybody knows who Ross Stevens is, but just in case, he's CEO of Stoneridge, which, you know, manages over 20,000,000,000 in investments, and he's also executive chair of New York, Digital Investment Group. NYDIG. Yeah. NYDIG. Exactly. And he's brilliant. You know, he's PhD in finance. I mean Heart. Big heart. Here big heart and incredible. His shareholder letters that he puts out every year are absolutely worth checking out. So I heard that hour long, you know, discussion between the two of them, and all the pieces fell into place. Because I had the tech and the finance, but it's like, oh, that's what this is. That's what Bitcoin is. That's the role it's going to play in this global transformation that we are moving towards and moving into. So it's like you were saying, it was like, that was my orange pill moment, but it was more like the capstone, the little the little missing puzzle piece rather than the big door opening and then all the other personal sovereignty things kinda come from there. I've been doing personal sovereignty for years. Totally. It was just like, oh, here was the missing piece. And then after that, I was like, I am in a %. I just started liquidating, you know, my portfolio and being on Clubhouse for hours every night and listening to all the podcasts and, like, let's see, stack it's from it's out of my own stack of books, you know, all of the, like, Bitcoin books.
So, yeah, that was kind of my my entry into all of that.
[00:10:40] Unknown:
And how's it been for you, like, you know, because I always like to talk to people about, like, you know, I wrote an article, called the Bitcoiner's Dilemma, you know, and we talk about, you know, how your world view changes, how your relationship view changes, and then how your inner personal view changes. And so I think, you know, once we become, you know, like the tap on the shoulder and we get the like you got and I I got in my own way too, Like, our relationships completely change, you know? And so whether they're your professional relationships, your personal relationships, whatever your neighborhood, and because you're just I don't know about you, but, like, I'm so much more magnetized like a moth to a flame to hanging out with people who are freedom warriors, you know, and who get it. And so when I'm with other folks who don't get it, it's kind of like, well, okay, I'm doing a service here to try to show up and listen more than I talk, you know, hopefully, but that's not always the case. But,
[00:11:38] Unknown:
you know It's like it's like being with it's like being with the muggles. I mean, it's like you just have to be patient, you know, and just feed them information and hope they get it and hope they, you know, they run with it. Yeah. I mean, I this I kinda like I said, I kinda came at it backwards because the all the realizations that Bitcoiners have, I've been, you know, following their orange pill moments, I'd had decades prior. So I'd been living my life from that place of clarity and awareness. And, of course, I'm still learning and releasing old patterns and growing an understanding of, you know, how the cosmos is evolving. But I've basically been on this path for a long time. So, you know, the quality of my relationships, my health, all the things that Bitcoiners move into increasing the quality and their their personal sovereignty around health, relationships, family, work, you know, nature, whatever that is, had already kind of been in place, and then Bitcoin just was the capstone. You know, it was great. It's amazing. Right? And and and and it's like
[00:12:33] Unknown:
I mean, I always felt, like, you know, the Woodstock generation had it. Right? You know? And and hey, dude. Chills. I typically don't have her in his studio when I'm recording, but she wouldn't leave and I, you know Mine's mine's under the desk down here. So Oh, hi, Munchy. But it's like imagine if the Woodstock generation had Bitcoin. Imagine if doctor Martin Luther King had Bitcoin. Imagine if Gandhi had Bitcoin. You know? And it's kinda like Right. What imagine if Bob Marley or John Lennon had Bitcoin. You know? It's kind of like I mean, and I know, it's like, what would be happening with their voices?
What would they be doing? You know? What kind of movements and marches or songs or events or anything, what would they have done
[00:13:28] Unknown:
if Bitcoin was in their holster of a tool, you know, for their peace and love and freedom and sovereignty movement? Right. And it wasn't those energies are, it's like there were seeds planted in the sixties, peace, love, you know, all that kind of stuff that are that are blossoming now. It's the same energies and a lot of Piscean energy because, you know, an an Aquarian energy that we're we're moving moving into. But it's the same energies that are actually coming up to the surface now with much more effectiveness, you know, in terms of being able to make a difference in the world. But that definitely the seeds were planted then.
[00:14:04] Unknown:
Well, let's talk about that because we were talking about it right before we jumped on and we've got obviously this eclipse that's happening, you know, in the next forty eight hours. Do you wanna talk a little bit more about that? Because I know we were talking about Monica Bravo. I love you, Monica. If you're listening, we both love you. Hi, Monica. You know, like, let's talk about, like, what your experience is as, I call you a wisdom keeper. You know, like, you're somebody in my life who I consider a wisdom keeper. And, I very much revere you as a friend and a woman and as a Bitcoiner and as a spiritual woman.
Let's talk about, you know and and I'm not, like, suggesting anybody who's listening like, oh, you have to go read tarot cards and do astrology all day long. But like there are these things called patterns. And so, I'd be curious to hear your, hear your take on like what's happening right now in the cosmos.
[00:15:01] Unknown:
Yeah. Let's talk about like the stuff that's immediate, like right now, you know, in the next forty eight hours or something. And then we can, you know, a little bit later, maybe talk about some of the larger, larger trends that are unfolding. And of course, you know, astrology stuff, we're really talking about, frequencies. Planets have frequencies. And those frequencies impact us in different ways. So this is not about, what's the word I'm looking for? Destiny preordained. It's not anything like that. It's as different planets move into different relationships with each other and with us, we are impacted by that. So tonight, at least you know, in I'm on, I think same time zone as you, mountain time.
There's a blood full moon and a lunar eclipse in Virgo and happening to And I was really hoping I would be able to see it. But, you know, we've got snow and rain and various other things happening tonight. But it's really energetically, it's a major ignition point for the personal and the global global shifts that are unfolding. So it's like a an energetic cosmic reset, if you will. And it's gonna be bringing sudden clarity, powerful revelations, life changing shifts. And we're already seeing that. You know, it it the energies start a few days prior and from this eclipse, it's actually gonna continue for the next six months, believe it or not. So universe is clearing away, doubts, opening new doors, pushing you into alignment with your your destiny, your soul's destiny, what your soul really wants for you.
So right right now, it's an opportunity to release that which is no longer serving you, which we've, outgrown, you know, at a at a really deep level. And we're we're detaching from energies, emotions, unhealthy connections that are not in alignment with our higher self. So, at a little bit larger sense, we're clearing some of the patterns of our collective past and we're gonna see truths exposed in unexpected, ways that have been kind of lurking under the surface. And we've already been seeing that the last couple of months with Doge and what's going on with that. But things that are kind of hidden in plain sight and things revealing that, what is no longer in conscious vibrational alignment with us, you know, with our country, with the globe.
And that personally, that might bring revelations that challenge your existing perspectives, leading to a deeper understanding of yourself and perhaps others. So that's kind of, you know, what's happening with these energies right now. And they're gonna support you in, embracing your, conscious evolution and stepping into, you know, what you're already becoming. Like your sovereign self. And that's one of the things I'm really focusing on these days is kind of like soul sovereignty. It's a higher level sovereignty. Kind of the the top of Maslow's hierarchy of needs. You know, that very, very top triangle, of soul sovereignty.
So, you know, over the next few years, these energies, we're gonna see significant and abrupt planetary trans, transitions to elevated timelines. And that's well underway right now.
[00:18:17] Unknown:
And it's What would you say, Holly, to people who might be listening, who are, you know, I was just watching, you know, I always like to watch YouTube little nerd videos, whatever. And, you know, and it was so weird because mentally, I was thinking of self sabotage and some stuff that's going on for me personally, you know. And, you know, and I did, like, a little micropsychedelic journey a couple weeks ago. Mhmm. And the biggest thing that came up for me was I need some assistance with my resistance, you know, and I'm having, you know, this this and I know it's all me. It's not anything else. It's me psychologically or, you know, spiritually, emotionally, energetically.
Like, why am I putting a barrier up to this next level of my evolution? Yeah. And so, you know, so I was journaling, thinking about it and all this. And then, of course, I mean, literally, I'm not even saying anything out loud. And all of a sudden, YouTube's, like, going, here's your Jungian self sabotage, you know, shadow work thing. You know? Yeah. And I'm like, are they fucking listening inside of here? Like, I think they are. Who knows? We all have these weird experiences of, like, we think about something and it's like, then it shows up on our feed or whatever. Yeah. Not and not speaking it out loud and not texting it. And it's like, it's literally this weird stuff is showing up in our timelines. And so I'm just like, are we really in a sim? Are we you know, who the heck knows? But regardless, I'd love to learn, you know, because we've obviously got this, you know, these big potent intersections of the planets. And, you know, a couple weeks ago, it was like all these planets were in alignment and all this stuff. So why do people such as myself who have this big vision of, like, I wanna do great things in the world, all of a sudden put a freaking orange cone and roadblock our stuff and say, nope. We are not going past here. We're gonna go backwards instead.
You know? And so it's almost like this, like, this dojo, this test, you know, and then spirit god universe is just like, are you sure you understood the lesson? You know? And it's kinda like this little, it's like a quiz or a midterm or something. And I'm kinda like, oh, we gotta keep you know? So how do you help people who are suffering from the resistance of moving forward even though they know? Like, they see the vision and they want to go do the thing. Like, how do you support your your clients, the people you work with, your community?
[00:20:48] Unknown:
That's a really good question, and there are kind of a few ways I can come in on that. Let's see. One is, we're feeling things more intensely now because we're right in this in this global trans transition, massive global shift. And I've been hearing for the last couple of decades, it's coming, it's coming, it's coming. And then this year, 2025, I'm hearing from multiple different sources, it's here, it's now. So and we can't take our baggage with us as we transition, you know, into higher levels of conscious awareness and consciousness. And so our stuff, our our shit is really up intensely.
And that can be very uncomfortable and disturbing. So that's one piece. The second is, you know, we come into these particular incarnations with, I'm gonna say we're all fractals of, you know, galactic consciousness. And consciousness wants to experience itself. So as it As we come into these incarnations, it says, let's experience this. And that might be poverty. That might be scarcity. That might be, you know, whatever it is that we're here to kind of experience. And I don't call it a lesson, but it's just consciousness wanting to experience itself in a hugely broad number of different ways of all the people who are on the planet. That being said, there are, as we are here in this, having this human experience, we have things happen to us in childhood. You know, traumas, events, things like that from which we form beliefs.
I'm not good enough. This is how I can expect the world to treat me. All these kinds of things. And that belief forms behaviors and then we sort for events around us that confirm those beliefs. And we discount things that don't confirm those beliefs. And so we reinforce those beliefs over time and they become kind of our personal truths. Right? They're not they're not capital t truths. They're small t truths because they're ours. They're not like, you know, gravity and consciousness and, you know, global truths, but they're our truths. And we hold them and we have those patterns of belief or behaviors, strategies that we employ until they're just not working anymore.
And and that we're kinda bumping up against I keep doing this and I keep doing this pattern and I wanna shift it and I just can't figure out how to do it. And your left brain, your mental mind goes, I'm so done with this and I've tried all these things and it's still frigging there and it's driving me nuts. The secret is we have to get kind of below the water line. Here's our conscious mind and here's our subconscious mind. It's a little bit like the iceberg thing. Right? Yeah. Yeah. And we have to get into the subconscious part because that's where all that stuff resides. It doesn't reside in conscious thought. So you can do all the conscious affirmations you want and they're just slide off like Teflon. Unless you get into the subconscious and shift where it resides, at the mental, emotional, physical level, tissue memory in your neurology.
If you shift the impact of that event, and you clear that, all the beliefs and all the behaviors and all the strategies that are sitting on top of it release organically on their own. So part of what I do with clients is kind of advanced personal growth work. I call it graduate school for personal growth. Cool. Because a lot of times I will get people come to me and they've been in traditional talk therapy for years and talking, talking, talking, nothing ever shifts. Yeah. But we get one of the skills that I have, thank you, you know, is that, what's that called?
That little journey, you know, to figure out what's the source Right. Of of all this stuff that's happening. And then using advanced, bioelectrical tools, to clear that from the neurology, from What is it? What's an advanced bioelectrical tool? Well, we are we are bioelectrical beings. We are bioelectrical beings. We tend to think, you know, Western medicine thinks of us primarily as biochemical beings, hormone cascades, you know, drugs, chemicals. Right? Right. But but really when you get down to the subatomic level, we are bioelectrical. Yeah. So we're really we're really just frequencies, vibrations, and consciousness.
Yeah. That's what we are. So when you're working at the electrical level, I fully believe that medicine is going to transition over time into primarily energy medicine, not and we're gonna look at surgery and pharmaceuticals like the same way we look at bloodletting and, you know, you know, that kind of stuff. Right. All the old, old, old ways of thinking. Exactly. So, and I've, I've worked with clients for years even on a more physiological level of clearing cancer and clearing things through clearing frequencies and vibrations that are being held in their system. So if you use tools that make use of that, you can clear things like that.
I mean, I had one session who was, this is a long time ago because I'm not doing, you know, table body work anymore. But she came to me and she was scheduled for fibroid surgery the next week. And we did some work and discovered that there had been an event a long time ago that had kind of created, I will call that an energy cyst in her body. We cleared that and she checked in, you know, a week later and there was no, there was, there were no fibroids there to be, you know, surgically removed. So, you know, the body is basically a bioelectrical structure. Yeah. And so if we're working at that level, it's very easy to make shifts and changes.
[00:26:04] Unknown:
And it's so important for people to understand that. Like, when I started learning about holistic healing and health and Reiki and everything back in the early nineties, I went to a school called the School of Healing Arts and got my little holistic health practitioner thing and, you know, studied Louise Hay, studied Barbara Brennan, studied, like, how is energy the thing? Because, like, they wanted you to go in and do all this, you know, let's just work on the body and physical stuff. And it was just like, no. It's like the energy of how somebody is, operating is the most important thing in their vibe. And that's why I'm Valerie the vibe goddess when I do DJ stuff. Yeah. Whatever. And it's like, if you can help yourself understand, you know, your operating system, I call it your human operating system or your vibration operating system, your VOS, then you get to be the master of your code. You get to be the master of how your day goes. But, like, again, we still even though, like, we consciously know these things Yeah. We're like, yep. Checkbox. Checkbox. I believe it. Yep. This is accurate. But because we have these old traumas Mhmm. These old things that haven't gotten, the slate wipe clean. Right. And and even if you go in and do different types of energy work or hypnotherapy or anything and you go wipe the slate clean, it's kind of like, it's a garden.
If you're not weeding the garden all the time paying attention, and fertilizing it with the good stuff, and making sure you're like, Oops, there was a little seed left over from this thing. Exactly. Yeah. And that's where I think a lot of people, they get discouraged because they go and they do this work or they spend this money and they do a retreat or they have this, like, oh, I did, you know, 20 sessions with my therapist. And it's kinda like I thought I already cleared that. Totally. Totally. That's what, dude. How many times a day do you need to brush your teeth? At least once. Hopefully, twice if you're good. Three if you're like some cool teeth person.
You don't get to just go brush your teeth once and have a dentist visit. You're done. Go see them every six months. You need to do the daily thing.
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You know? So yeah. I totally I totally agree with you about, kind of maintaining a practice where you are where you, you know, have meditation time, that you have time of stillness, where you are grounding. Cause that's just part of being energetically, mentally, emotionally healthy. Yeah. However, that being said, two things. One is, when I work with someone and we clear an event, that event is cleared. I mean, that they they can come back to it later and there is no charge. There is no Cool. Nothing, no there there. However, I also kind of have this image of, it's almost like, you know, the Leaning Tower Of Pisa. How it kinda goes in a circle and you go up and you come back around to the same issues of mother or father or health or whatever. But you're in a different place in relationship to it. You know, you're kind of continuing to evolve and grow. You're not in the same place that you started out. So to your point about, there might still be a little seed there, but there's not the same level of trauma, of you know, that it's running you. That pattern is running you anymore. There might be a little residue.
But usually, when I'm working with clients and we're really dealing with one thing, the whole thing is just clear. Yeah. And so, they come out the other side really a different human being not because, I call it success through subtraction because we're not, like, making them better. We're just taking away the stuff that's in the way of them really being the full essence of who they are being fully expressed easily, comfortably, joyfully. Right? It's the it's the stuff that's, you know, that's muddying the window, if you will. No. I I totally I I feel that. I know when I was going through
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I mean, I've had a couple dark nights of the soul, but, like, the biggest one that I had was almost nine years ago, eight and a half years ago. And, you know, and I was just, like, excessive drinking and just numbing and escape everything that I could do to, like, not feel my feelings, you know, and didn't know that I had sexual trauma from my childhood. All sorts of stuff was repressed. Right? But, like, I literally felt like there was, this giant heavy wet sleeping bag blanket over me. Yeah. You know? And I was just like, I know that I'm in here somewhere. Right. You know? And this thing, whatever this thing is, this narrative, the story, this, you know, me needing to clear this energy was, like, it was suffocating myself. Absolutely. You know? And so it just was one of those things, like, I need to look and see what the heck that thing is. Right. And because you know, like, this is where I you know, when I work with people too and it's just like nothing can eliminate your light.
Your light is always, like, a % there. It might have things that come on top of it. A really a really big bushel sitting on top of it, you know, keeping it all. Yeah. Totally. But it's always there. There's nothing that will extinguish that light. And so when we can remember that we are God's light, God's light, in a you know, I usually I call us I call us God's sparks. We're just God's sparks in in physical form. Right? You know? Hey. Oh, sorry. Angel's like, yeah. God's sparks. Let's go.
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But
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Aw. Aw. When because because, you know, when you get into that dark night of the soul Yeah. It's dark as fuck, and you're just like, well, let's just get out of here. This is done. I'm done. You know? And I tried to escape planet a couple times in my life. You know? And and it's okay. You know? And I'm here. Thank God. You know? But God was just like, no. You're not going anywhere. Shut up. Like You have to be here. You are supposed to be here for this. You have been You've got a mission, and you're supposed to go do the thing that you're blessed with with your skills and treasure and talent and all the things that you're you know, that I gave you, God says. And I was like, okay. And, but it's like, we do want to escape.
You know? There's that tendency as a human. So whether it's through food, whether it's through social media, whether it's You don't wanna feel pain.
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Nobody wants to feel pain. No. It's like Yeah. That's part of the human experience of
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wanting joy and avoiding, you know, avoiding pushing back on pain. Exactly. I go to pleasure and I avoid pain. Period. End of story. That's, like, the human thing. Right. Right? And so it's just kind of like, well, you know, growth lies within the middle, you know. And, like, the only way we're gonna grow like, you think about muscles. Right? You go to the gym.
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It's like your recovery is after you've done the hard work. Yeah. You know? And it's kind of like that, oh. And the only and the only way to the other side is through. It's a little bit like childbirth. It's like, you know, you can't get out of the womb without going through that birth canal. You know? And so a lot of times, if you have trauma, and I've experienced trauma, you know, myself when I was younger, and the the only way you can't you can't do the spiritual bypass. So I'm just gonna think positive, wonderful things. I'm just gonna sit on the cushion. And, like, you know, that doesn't work because that's all still sitting there beneath the water line. It's and that's what's running you. That's what's running your patterns. Right? And so, the only way to the other side of that is through.
And I say to people now, you know, it used to be that, you know, you would do various therapies for years and maybe you would see a little shift and change. But I tell people now, it doesn't have to be hard, and it doesn't have to take a long time. Not anymore to be able to to experience massive palpable shifts freeing you up to be the fullest creative expression of who you are in your life. It doesn't have to be hard or take a long time anymore.
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It doesn't. And and it can be, you know, and so for me, you know, I created this 11 x love method, because I had done, you know, all sorts of personal growth stuff and business growth stuff and spiritual things and, you know, 12 steps and everything. And it was just like, there's too many parts and pieces that don't talk to each other, and there's a lot of shame around it. And I was like, uh-uh. I'm not interested in doing any kind of programs that I'm not excited to wear a t shirt about. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, because, like, I started doing 12 steps, you know, eight, nine years ago. And I love the program because it's it a program and you do these steps and there's this formula. However, two things that it didn't work for me. One was, like, you have to label yourself as, hi. My name is Valerie. I'm a sex addict or I'm an alcoholic or a coke addict or whatever the heck it is. So first of all, the second that you say that, your subconscious says, oh, okay. That's what you are. You're broken, you're diseased, you're fucked up, and you're never gonna get better. You're cementing that in. That label is cement labels, diagnosis, and all these I'm interrupting you, but all these diagnoses of ADHD and autistic kids and it's like all these diagnoses of this is what you are. It's like, yeah. No. It's bullshit.
It's bullshit. It's bullshit, and it's bullshit because, you know, first of all, my only identity is a child of God. That's it. That's that's the core that's the core identity of any of us. That's it. And and so when we can remember that as individuals, we can remember that we're always 20 fourseven supported. We're loved. We are not judged. We are We are not alone. We're not alone. Yeah. We're not alone. You know? And and so to me, that that whole thing was just so,
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like, ugh. I don't I'm not into the label thing. You know? I totally agree. And I think it just reinforces it. It just, you know, concretizes it. Totally. It doesn't doesn't you know, bless their hearts for the 12 step programs. I you know, I think they're they're great. There are a lot of great starting places, and then a lot of times people will graduate to other things that, you know,
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are more effective for them. You know? And and you just said the word graduate, and that was something that I was you know, when I was in these programs, I was like, well, when do we ever get to graduate so that we're, like, healed and now we can go help other people? And they're like
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No. No. Forget it. You have to do this for the rest of your life. No. No. You're here in, like, purgatory forever. And Right. Just like, And I remember
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I remember, like, because you have to, like I think it was, like, you have to have, like, twelve months of sobriety or whatever it was, and and then you can start leading the meetings and, you know, be the cheerleader. And so I was like, yay. Look at me. And so, of course, what does DJ Val do? She brings in some fucking good music. And I'm like, yay. We're gonna have our, like, women's group, and I'm gonna play this song called Eve, and it's awesome, and we're gonna do this. These women looked at me like I had an octopus growing outside of my left ear and that I was, like,
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octopus growing outside of my left ear and that I was, like, the villain of all villains. You were going outside that little box that they had created, and you're not allowed to go outside that box. And and they were just
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like, what are you doing? And I'm like, well, I'm trying to raise the vibe. You know? Like, let's let's get excited. And this meeting, we're gonna talk about our future instead of constantly, you know, harping on what happened in the past. Like, let's start building our dreams. And they just were just like, you know, you're not you're not allowed to do that. And in that moment in time, I was just like, okay. These I'm not done. Here. I'm I'm graduated.
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Yes. I'm I'm grad I'm graduating myself. I'm graduating myself. And this is, you know, like, when I when I look at just the the journey of all the different, healing modalities, you know, that I've gone through. Again, it you know, even over the last, what, you know, twenty twenty, thirty years, it's been the same kind of thing of going from neurolinguistic programming, Reiki, getting my Reiki master, traditional oriental medicine, ohashiatsu, somato emotional release, heart based therapy, craniosacral therapy, chakras, you know, eight month chakra systems, body talk energy medicine, energy psychology. I mean, you know, all of these different things and they all kind of have woven together. Yeah. And, you know, and are now in my toolbox, you know, when I help people. But it's again, you know, it's like, I remember being in a in a shiatsu class. And of course, you know, with shiatsu you have to you have to understand their, energetic meridians pathways in the body. Mhmm. And I'm sitting with a a TA beside me and she's looking across the room and someone's practicing on someone. And she said, they're not on heart meridian. They're on, you know, gallbladder. I'm like, how can you see that? How can you from across the room, how can you see that they're not on the right she said, oh, I can just see the energy fields. And I'm like, cool. I had no idea how you could do that. And then a year later, I could do it. Right? So it's like, we all have these capabilities that are kind of trained out of us when we're when we're young. Let's talk about the telepathy tapes because it used to so fun.
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And, like, recently because I saw that you had that post in the beginning of the year, and then just recently, someone was talking about telepathy tapes. So, let's let everybody what are the telepathy tapes, and let's talk about what because that to me is obviously, you know, just super indicative of this energy field in these going. Yeah. Exactly. And where we're where we're headed. Did you listen to the whole series, the 10? Not yet. And so it's just something that, like, it literally has been showing up in the last, I don't know, say, four days. It's showing and you can't know saw yours, and I was like, holy cow. Okay. We gotta talk about this. I do know that, the, I don't know which how do you explain this, but the number of people that have watched that, you know, like, in terms of it it she surpassed Joe Rogan,
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sometime in December. That series surpassed Joe Rogan. I'm like, woah. This is hitting mainstream. This is so cool. Yeah. So this is a young woman who's a journalist and then I think a a filmmaker. Might have that wrong. And she, started hearing about these, young nonverbal autistic kids who, they have spelling boards so they can, you know, communicate via, you know, physiological through their hand spelling, but they don't have the capacity to be verbal. And she was hearing these stories and started investigating this and found a researcher who was investigating these stories about how these kids were communicating with each other, autistic kid to autistic kid, through time and space. They're not local.
And they would, they would communicate through telepathy with each other and also with their parents and also with their teachers. And so this researcher started doing, you know, really looking into this, interviewing these kids, giving them tests, you know, double blind tests. And they were just spot on. So it's kinda like, we tend to, we generally, our culture has tended to think of autistic kids as diminished less than but they are actually highly evolved beings who just happen to be in a physical body that's not allowing them to communicate in the same way. And their frequencies are so much higher than ours, it's really hard for them to kind of dial that down, you know, to be able to communicate in the same way.
But what she was doing as as she went through these, this investigation that she was, doing with these teachers and parents and researchers and these kids was she was realizing that material science as we know it really does not answer these questions. And you have to kinda move into the quantum side. Yeah. And the non material, you know, consciousness side to understand what's happening here and that these interactions were validating. Yes, we are, you know, bioelectrical, conscious beings able to communicate without words, not having to be, you know, co located.
And we're and they have the kids were, they have this meeting place called The Hill where all these different autistic kids will meet in astral planes, whatever you wanna call it, non physical space. And they have interactions. They've got best friends, you know, in that space. And it's just, and it's heartwarming and it's wild and it's blowing people's minds about, you know, we think of our little three d selves as the five senses. That's it. And it's like, that is so not it. And I, again, as I was listening to these episodes, I'm like, it was just, I was so glad I was hitting the mainstream because these are the energies I've been working with for, you know, thirty years about being able to channel and being able to pull in, you know, nonphysical resources or being able to communicate with people at that level.
So I'm really, really thrilled that it's hitting the mainstream and it's it's indicative of the shift that we are in, the larger global shift that we are in right now.
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I I love this, and and I can't wait to, like, listen to all of these. And I saw that she was doing, like, a fundraiser to try to get, like, the real full length movie Right. Documentary together Yeah. Yeah. Which, you know, as Bitcoiners, it's like, let's get her a geyser fund, you know, and, like, help let's support her because, I I look at all of us. Right? And I've I've always said this, and this is before I I learned about the telepathy tapes, but I think about, remember, you know, you and I are similar. Like, in the old days, when you had a radio, you had to dial You had to dial it. To dial. And then as if you moved it too fast, all you heard was static. Static. Right? Static and then tuned in and then static.
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Totally.
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Tune it in. Yeah. Yep. And so it's like this, how do you fine tune your own transmitter and receiver, which is Yes. We transmit energy and and communication. We receive energy and communication. And so I think about these folks who I would imagine maybe have, like, their their receivers are so wide and there's too much information coming in and that's why they're just like
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And some yeah. Sometimes they don't have the capacity to, you know, to have a a really good helpful porous membrane that's shutting down. But there are there are particular tools, sacred geometry, octahedrons, you know, spinning various sacred geometry things that can help, delineate your personal energy field and and kind of make a really healthy energetic boundary, not to keep things out, but just kind of to demarcate this is where I end and someone else begins. So there are lots of tools that are available. It's so important. It's so interesting that you just mentioned that because I started doing some hypnotherapy
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in, September of last year, just going through a breakup, you know, just dealing with some personal stuff. Right? And, one of the things the girl was, you know, doing at the end, we were doing some energy clearing and cutting cords and all this stuff. And she was just like, oh, Valerie's in this crystal thing and blah, blah, blah. And I was just like, alright. Let's play with that for a little bit. Yeah. And so I started meditating and being in this, this, like, crystal diamond thing, you know? And it was just and she was like, well, it's not supposed to just completely cut you off. I'm like, no. It's got I'm I'm in charge of what goes in and out of it. Yeah. But when I say activate, it allows me to not let someone else's energy and vibration and their field come into mind. And so if it does start to kinda do that, I have the opportunity and I started playing this little, you know, and I do visuals and whatever, writing and coloring and all that. And I'm like, well, if something does happen to get into the barrier, what do I do with it? And so I'm like, I'm gonna sparkle poof it. And so I, like, turned it into this sparkle energy. Yep. And then I'm just like, I love you. Goodbye. You're not allowed here. And then I, like, turn it into, like, glitter and then I make it go up and out through this, like Yeah. Almost like a chimney.
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Perfect. Perfect. I love that. I love that. That is just great. And there are very all sorts of tools that are very much like that, but I love that you're creating your own. And anything having to do with sparkles, I'm, like, on board for it. You know, it's like, that's great.
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Yeah. Well, and it's interesting too because, you know and and just whatever. I'll just share a tiny bit, but, like, this hypnotherapy that I did and there's all sorts of ways that hypnotherapy works, obviously. You know, different people have their own practices and how how they get to those, to the subconscious state. But, you know, one of the things that I love and it's like you're going into these rooms, you know, if you go to the left, which is your past, you know, and the right is your future, you're going into these rooms and you're kind of re experiencing like, Ugh, I got abused by my mom's boyfriend or by my uncle or whoever, you know? And it's kind of like, Okay, the adult Val gets to come in and be the protector while the little girl who had that experience is there. So it's like Yeah. What would you do if the adult Val was actually there? So we get to kinda, like, role play and everything. And always, like, when I'm, like, wiping the screen and doing this kind of clearing, you know, yeah, I wanna chop those motherfuckers up and, you know, kill them, but I also know that there's little boys inside of these men who did these things to me when I was a girl. And so, so I have this love for them.
Like, I have this deep love for them as boys who got hurt somehow that they thought it was okay to go hurt other people. They were wounded too. So so there's, like, this double, warrior sword. Like, let's chop them up, but then I chop them up and I turn them into glitter. You know? And I turn them into something beautiful and sparkly because it's like something happened to you. So while I'm healing, I'm also gonna help you heal too. And you're transmuting the energy for yourself and for them. That's really beautiful. And it's like and it's like because some people just wanna do this, like, I wanna sorry. That's okay.
Some people wanna just express that anger, but I'm like, let's take it a step further. Because if we are truly light workers, if we were truly here as god's servants for spreading love,
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like, what better way to do that than to love the people who hurt us? Yeah. And it's a lot of times at the beginning, we can't get there. But, you know, a lot times when I'm working with people, we will work through layers and layers and layers of things. It might be, you know, grief and hurt and pain and then it might be anger that you know, and once we kinda clear each layer, then we get down to a place where there's no, you know, and allowing the anger and like stab stab, you know, I wanna kill them to absolutely be there. Totally. But once you once you clear that out, what's underneath is usually either compassion or humor. It's compassion. Yes. You know, it depends on sometimes they'll look at the event and they're just like, that was ridiculous. I can't believe that even happened. Or there's compassion for that person who was wounded and and broken and, you know, in their own life and it wasn't about them. It was, you know, about the other person. So when you clear out all that stuff layer by layer, you can get to that place where it's an authentic compassion. It's not trying to put on, I'm trying to think of them as as, you know, wonderful little boys or whatever, but it's authentic. It's really it's really, you know, coming from their truth.
[00:48:28] Unknown:
Yeah. And and and that's, I think, so let's can we talk about plant medicine a little bit? Sure. Okay. So plant medicine is, like, where you know, I did Ibogaine. It was, like, almost five years ago. It was my five year big, like, dose anniversary, in on the solstice, actually, right when COVID was happening. Wow. So I had, you know, co ray balls. Right? And so I'm like, you know, after the whole shit show happened almost nine years ago, sober, didn't date anybody, totally whatever, ended up relapsing, just drinking like a sailor again. And, lots of trauma was coming up and all these things. And, you know, my girlfriend's like, come down to Mexico. There's an Ibogaine clinic literally at the end of my my block. And I was just like, okay. And I thought Ibogaine was just for, people who had, like, opioids. Addictions. Addictions. Yeah.
The woman who was, like, an ex heroin addict, now she's probably 80, because she was, like, set in her mid seventies at the time. She was just, like, this cool shaman lady, you know, and just, like, super fun and moving, dancing, beautiful, just, I love you, Chantal. And, you know, so I go in and I do this experience, you know, and the one of the, you know, you're going in. I don't know. I mean, Ibogaine is, like, the most intense psychedelic ever. I've done almost I haven't done Ayahuasca, but I've done DMT. I've done mushrooms. I've done fuck tons of acid. And, like, Ibogaine was just like, it's the grandfather of transformation.
And somehow, it gets into your brain and and rewires stuff. It really truly does, you know, because I was asking I was like, take away the cravings, take away my my, like, stabbing energy toward my uncle, you know, and all of this stuff. And so one of like, you go through all these portals and you're literally it's like 10,000,000,000,000 faces and weird things coming at you all at the same time, and it's like and you're just like, oh my god. And I remember Chantal, she's like, if it ever gets too intense, just open your eyes, and it's like changing the channel on a TV station. So she's like, don't worry. You're not, like, trapped in these, you know, portals, you know. So I was like, okay. But she's like, go into it and feel it. Go for it. Yeah. Be afraid. Like, get there. That's why you're doing this medicine. Right. So I was like, okay. And I remember, you know, so I had several portals that I got dropped into, but one of the portals was a sandbox, like a a playground sand, you know, thing. And it was, like, it was my uncle.
It was, my ex husband, it was two boys who raped me when I was 13, and it was a guy who raped me when I was 28.
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And so
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I had these men, but they were all four year olds. Four year olds. And so I was also a four year old girl. And so somehow, all of our innocence got to hang out together and play in the sandbox. How was that for you? Even all of the, you know, the cogni the CBT, the cognitive behavioral therapy, and all the stuff that I was doing, was okay. But, like, it was not until I could literally be embodied in a sandbox Yep. With these boys. Yeah. Not their men self, but these boys were and and my dad too. My dad was there, and, and it was just like you're and and, of course, the mother in me is like, oh, you're just like little boys.
[00:52:12] Unknown:
Yeah. That's where they started out. I mean, we didn't none of us come in, you know, with these horrible, you know, trauma patterns. They're they're imprints. They're overlays. Yeah. They're on vents.
[00:52:22] Unknown:
Yeah. And so that was just such a trippy experience. And it was like and I meditate and pray on it almost every single day because it's still that, like, I know that they're I mean, and I'm starting to work with an orphanage down in El Salvador called the House of Life. And they're helping girls who've been raped, who've been trafficked, who've been abused, and now guess what? They're pregnant. And so now they have to carry their abusers' children. And because they're Catholic, they're like, well, we're not getting an abortion. You know? Like, how do we become moms? And these girls are, you know, 14, 15, 16 year old. They're kids. You know? And so how can we use our own trauma to support, other people on their journey of things that have happened? Because it's like, that's not who you are. That's an experience that happened, but it doesn't define your future.
Doesn't mean that's how you have to identify. You know. Like, you're a fucking survivor, you know. And and you can survive with love and compassion. So I don't know.
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I'm just babbling on. No. Thank you for sharing that because you're, you know, you're really raising that point of we don't have to carry that, you know, forward in our lives. It can be cleared. You know, we can have a much clearer, more joyful life moving forward if those events are cleared, you know, from us. And there are different ways to clear it. You know, the Ibogaine sandbox or, you know, hypnotherapy. It's there are many, many different tools. Yeah. Cognitive behavioral is is a little bit less effective because it's more just talking, talking. And, you know, you're at the you're at the conscious thinking mind level, which doesn't get to, as I said before, where it really resides.
[00:54:00] Unknown:
Yeah. So yeah. What do you say to people? Because, like, I've got I have two people in my life who have, in my opinion, been, hijacked by their therapists. And hijacked meaning they're they're,
[00:54:17] Unknown:
They're in a codependent relationship with their therapist?
[00:54:20] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean, but yes. And I don't know how do I say this the right way. Like like you said, like, there's you can clear things. You don't have to keep going back and digging it up and scratching a scab and opening it up once a week and then talking about it and and then nothing fucking happens, but they keep getting checks. Like, the therapist keep getting paid. You know? And I'm just like, that's such a scam. You know? And it just
[00:54:49] Unknown:
I feel like and I'm the last person who's gonna be like, you're being scammed. You know? Because, like, they think that they're getting helped. But they're truly, like, if you look at, like, 12 ago, nothing has changed. Nothing. This is a little bit like, you know, when you're trying to explain Bitcoin to, you know, to a fiat person. Right? Yeah. And they don't realize that they are in the midst of a scam. They don't realize it. They can't see it because they're in it. It's the fish and water. Like, you know, you're in the ocean. What's the ocean? You know, it's like What's wet? Yeah. Yeah. What's wet? Exactly. So, you know, all you can do is kind of start to plant seeds of their other options, their other opportunities, or maybe telling a story about how someone was able to clear something quickly and easily and have them go, that's really possible? How come I'm not experiencing this? So just planting seeds, just like with Bitcoin. We have to kinda plant seeds. We can't, you know, it's like the horse to water. You can't force them to drink. It's like planting seeds, nurturing those seeds, dropping little things in.
And if it's I've gotten to this point where I go, if it's on their life path to find that seed, great. If it's not, that's their path. You know, maybe that's one of their things is to stay stuck and not, you know, and not experience a shift for them. So I've had Yeah. I have much less, you know, judgment these days or impulse or comp compulsion to Yeah. You know, have things be different for them. Yeah. Maybe that's that's the path they need to do this lifetime or for some period of time until they wake up.
[00:56:14] Unknown:
Who am I to say? Right? Exactly. Yeah. And and and that's such exactly, like, nailed like, one of my teachers, he was like, who are you to interfere with someone else's spiritual curriculum? There you go. Exactly. Like, if you can, like, throw a little nugget here on the buffet, and if they choose to take it, great. But, like Great. It doesn't matter if it's your life partner, your kid, your parent, your best friend. Like, all you're supposed to do is go be the best version of you that you, you know, are able to do. Absolutely. And if there might be a little nugget to throw on that little buffet table, great. But don't don't be bummed if they don't pick up your nugget. You know? And that's like with the Bitcoin. Right? And so what's it been like for you to say. Like, as a Bitcoiner, obviously, and a spiritual woman and a a technologist and a financial woman? Like, you're, like, you're a renaissance lady.
[00:57:05] Unknown:
It's one of those things where I know. I have what I call a bridge brain because I have, like, all the right intuitive, you know, grokking things and intuitive, then all the the left linear logical engineering, you know, science tech, whatever. And it's like they go back and forth and I have this capacity to really, make connections between really disparate seemingly very separate points. Oh, that's connected to this and that's connected, you know, so that's the way my brain works. But there was one other thing that I wanted to mention before we moved on to that and that was Okay. There's this analogy that I use of being a lighthouse. You know, when you were talking about being light beings and we're just here, you know, to spread our light. So just to be a, lighthouses don't run around the island looking for ships to save. Right? They just stand there and put the light out. And if someone, you know, needs to tractor beam in on one of their, you know, their lights for their, for their welfare, for their highest, they will. And someone else won't need it and someone else won't even see it. But it's just our job to be light beings and just be the clearest, you know, brightest God sparks that we can be.
And just put that light out there. And if someone needs it, they'll see it. They'll resonate with it. It'll, you know, elevate them. That's our role.
[00:58:15] Unknown:
I love that. And I think too about Bitcoin. Like, Bitcoin is like a lighthouse. It's just doing its thing. Like, you look at, like, you know, if and and I'm a sailor, and I love lighthouses. I grew up sailing. It's the same same. Yeah. High five. Right? I know. Ugh. The water and the ocean. Mama ocean. I know it's so weird. You and I both live inland right now. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna say where we both live. I mean Yep. Most people know I live in Colorado. But I grew up grew up sailing all over the place. So yeah. Best. Right? And and, like, sailing definite so we'll talk about lighthouse super quick because I wanted to say that. A light you know, typically, a lighthouse will have its pattern. Right? And if it's like a thing, it's like every, whatever, fourteen seconds, there's a rotation kind of thing. And same with Bitcoin. Every ten minutes, there's a block. You know?
Nobody's going, I need to go tell everybody about the lighthouse. You know? It's just doing its thing. And so I love that analogy. So Bitcoin has a lighthouse. Do you know the, gosh. What's his name? Sato sailor. He's a sailor and he lives on a sailboat and he goes all over and he's over in Europe, so he's always doing all these Europe, sailing routes. But, he lives on his boat and he brings people aboard and they just hang out with him and he orange pills them. I love that. That's so great. Definitely. Like, what what an amazing life. You know? And I'm sort of like, well, do I really need to live in a house? What if I, like, sold my house and bought a catamaran and then I just, like, had, like because I used to teach sailing. I lived aboard a boat. I got my US coast guard captain's license, and I used to, like I was a hardcore sailor. And I was like, what if we brought people aboard, you know, and did these, like, personal growth slash Bitcoin experiences, you know, and, like, traveled all over The Caribbean and had some fun. And That could be an amazing, amazing path for you, you know. For us. Like, you're a sailor. Next the next adventure.
[01:00:09] Unknown:
No. I'm like, I'm supposed to be in the mount. I love being in the mount. I mean, you know, I grew up sailing and and grew up sailing with my parents and we had boats and, you know, up and down the East Coast and they took they they put their boat in a cradle and took it over to Europe and did it around, you know, The UK and down through the canals and Mediterranean stuff. Wow. I have a picture of me on the on the you know how you have it, you know, step a mast which means to kinda take the mast down and make it flat. Right? And there's a picture of me sitting, straddling the mast with the Eiffel Tower in the back because I'm, we're in, on the Seine going down the path to go across to, you know, Lymington in The UK. So I've had all sorts of amazing experiences. But that's not my that's not my thing now. I'm like, I need to be in the mountains. They just feed me. So yeah. But I could totally see it being a a next chapter for you. Oh my goodness.
[01:00:52] Unknown:
I know. I I really do. And, I mean, and you know how this goes. Right? What it doesn't matter where you go. But the minute you jump on a plane or you commit to a road trip and you're committing to this, like, new environment, like, something happens up here and here. Yeah. You know? And even if you're sort of feeling like a stuck, and you're you're in a stuck position, you know, whether it's with your relationship or your business or health or anything, like, the minute that you just commit to going, like, I'm gonna go do something different and physically be in a different location. For some reason, it's being on a sailboat because, you know, depending on where you're at. Obviously, if you're on the ocean, you're looking at this infinite horizon.
You're looking at infinity.
[01:01:39] Unknown:
Mhmm. And
[01:01:40] Unknown:
you don't even know what the heck is going on underneath.
[01:01:44] Unknown:
Right? That yeah. That can be terrifying. Right? I still have, like, sea monster. It's like
[01:01:50] Unknown:
But it's, like, such a cool thing because it, like, makes your mind, it forces it to push past its limitation. And it forces it to push past its stuckness because you're just like, oh my gosh. Like, if I were to jump overboard with a little mask, like, what the heck am I gonna see? And, oh, if it's nighttime, am I gonna see some glowing stuff? Or Plankton. Glowing plankton. Whoo. Totally. Right? You know? And then it's just like so I feel like the more that we, nudge ourselves into being in different situations, it's gonna completely continue to make our minds Play Doh and stretchable and and expandable with solutions and possibilities and ways to build the new world that we all want. You know? And so a lot of people are like, and I have this thing up here where is it?
Life is short by the tickets. And, you know, as a Take the
[01:02:46] Unknown:
adventure. Take the trip. Do it. Can I offer a slightly different perspective? Yeah. Totally agree with you. Go. Go. Yeah. I think that that, you know, our higher level soul consciousness that's always there and available for us gives us little nudges, gives us little nudges in different directions. And it's so important to pay attention to those little nudges, those little, you know, intuitive hits and follow-up on them. Because it's, it's, it's, when we do that, we are led in such amazing places. Synchronicities happen. I call it red carpeting where the red carpet just gets rolled out because it's like, yes, you're supposed to go in that direction. Yes, you're supposed to. That's, you know, at the soul level, that's kind of part of your destiny path if you will.
So it's not kind of constructing it from the left brain part, but just like really following and trusting those little intuitive hits, those little nudges. You know, it's like when I decided to move from the East Coast to California, I was going through a divorce at the time and I had to kind of close down my my practice. I moved to a little town in Northern California. Fortunately it was in the wine country. It was beautiful. Didn't know, didn't know a soul. But, but when I pulled into that town, you know, when I was looking at various places to live, I got this really strong intuitive hit of you are your home, like a little vibration, your home, you know? Yeah. I was like, got it. And I just, you know, I was on a motorcycle at the time, just parked the bike and waited for the real estate office to open, went home, packed everything. But like that journey, I was so supported by spirit. I mean, the perfect mover arrived, the perfect packers.
I was looking for, you know, a house out in the country and I couldn't find one, couldn't find one, couldn't find one. And then this apartment right on the Central Plaza in the center of town, which never happens, there's only one, and it was available and I got it. Catty corner across the street, I found an office and the universe said, you don't wanna be out there. You wanna be smack in the center of town. You don't know a soul. You know, this is gonna put you in the middle of things and I ended up meeting all these people. Six months later, I found my ideal house, kept the apartment while I renovated the house. I mean, it's like red carpeting. It just kind of, everything was so easy about that move. So when we follow those little intuitive hits, we're so well supported and that's the way that, you know, soul, spirit, nonconscious communicates with us. And we have to kind of be paying attention to those little nudges and not discounting them. We so often just go, yeah, yeah, whatever. You know, when we get a little impulse to go do something, check something out. I mean, another example of that was like a month after I moved there, I'm in a bookstore and I'm getting a book for a friend of mine. It's, you know, and I know what book I want. So I go to the bookstore shelf, Barnes and Noble, and I pull up this book and the book next to it is stuck to it and it falls in my hands with the other book. And I look at it and I went undefended love. Woah, what is this? And that book ended up being transformative for the next decade of my life. I ended up working with the authors. I ended up doing group therapy with them. I ended up, you know, it was like, it was one of those things where the universe went here literally landed in my lap. I know. I know. And it was just like, it was hugely true and I wasn't looking for it, but they're like, we can help you with this. So all of those little things that happened to us, those little intuitive hits, those little nudges, those little I could have just said, oh, whatever. And just stuck it back on by the shop. I went, Totally. What's this? And I I threw it and bought it and went home and read it. And it was incredible. It's one of the best books I've ever read. And it's called Undefended Love. I haven't heard this.
Undefended Love. Jet Sarris and Marlena Lyons, two therapists. And oh, by the way, I was, you know, like in the wine country, just above San Francisco. They lived in Oakland. So, you know, I ended up doing, you know, individual therapy, group therapy, all sorts of programs with them. They ended up becoming, you know, really close with them over the next decade. But I didn't ignore it. You know, it's like so that book is very slender, but it's very meaty. It's very meaty. There's, like, something on every single page. Highly recommended to anybody. That's great. Defended love. I love this. Undefended love. And I think for for folks who are listening, obviously, again, you and I are,
[01:06:49] Unknown:
in the older generation. Right? So I love this, and I love being, I love being a wisdom keeper. Experienced. Being experienced. Being able to share that wisdom. Exactly. And and I know for me personally, like, as a younger woman and even, you know, I would say in the last decade, I've had some imposter syndrome of, like, well, who am I to go out there and talk about this stuff? And who am I? And who am I? Blah blah blah. You know, obviously, there's old, programs. Right? But, like, I think, yay, Lauren. Yay. Hi, Lauren. We're gonna all be together next Tuesday. Hi, Lauren.
I love Lauren so much. I'm so glad what he's doing with Yeah. He's great. My day. He's great. Such a stud. Right? But but I think of of, like, for all of us. Right? And so it's kind of like, well, how do we trust? And I ask this to people a lot, you know? And so this is the thing, like with you, with your inner voice, and you've got these nudges, right, in the red carpet. A lot of us get I mean, we are nonstop, right? We're the receivers and the transmitters, like we were saying with the radio stations, right? Yeah. So we're constantly getting information from God, from our guides, from the guardians, from the angels, from the cosmos, from the quantum field. You know?
How do you determine what's worthy of listening to and what's not?
[01:08:12] Unknown:
That's a really good question. And, you know, part of it is, couple of things. One is when you get those nudges, usually, there's some kind of, physiological palpable sensation that makes it feel like a yes versus a no. Like a yes, a yes. And you, you know, I always sometimes I will teach people, kinesiology or even just using like a pendulum, you know, as a way to to tune into the yeses and noes in your physiology. After a while, you don't need it. You can just feel what a yes or a no is. Yeah. And so when you get a yes to act on it. And the more you act on it, the clearer the yeses get. The clearer the nooshes get. Yeah. Versus the like, is that really that doesn't really feel I don't know about that. But the yeses get clearer and clearer. Can I can I tell you another story? Please. Yeah. About this is about an stories like Okay. I have all the time in the world too. So just like so you may I'm as long as you're okay, like I'm good. Keep going as long as you like. So yeah. So intuitive hits. I mean, this is one of the things that I work with with people is really developing their intuition and strengthening that so that they can depend on it. So they really feel those, those intuitive hits and they feel the yeses and it's very important to act on them because if you act on it, it kinda opens up the channel over time and you get a clearer and clearer downloads and clearer and clearer hits on things.
So, like I mentioned I ride motorcycles and I was riding from my town over to another town in in Napa for lunch and parked the bike. And I was kind of at the end of a block, you know, at a corner And I was the last parking place there. Got off the bike, took my helmet off. I'm going into this lovely little cafe for lunch. And I get this hit of like, something just doesn't feel right. I don't like I don't where it is doesn't feel good. I'm I'm like, oh, this is such a pain in the butt to put everything back on and move the bike. I don't really wanna do this. I'm like, yeah, I have to. And so I got on the bike and moved to like four spaces further.
So there were like three cars behind me. Halfway through lunch, I hear this huge screech and this, and I hear this massive crash and this old beat up station wagon had hit the car that had parked where my bike had been, hit that car and moved it forward, hit that car and moved it forward, and the beautiful black BMW that was like right behind me came with being about that far of the tail end of my bike. So it was like, you know, it was one of those, thank you, you know, it was one of those thank you, but I could have not I could have discounted. I said, there's a pain in the butt, I don't wanna put anything back on, you know, blah blah. But I didn't. And so the more I trust, the more I hit the more I say yes to those things, the more I take action when I get those nudges, the clearer they are. And that is true for anyone. You have to kind of, act on them, and then the signals get clearer.
[01:10:59] Unknown:
They do. And I love that because we think of as Bitcoiners, you know, proof of work, you know, and, like, showing up and doing the thing and not just lip servicing the stuff. Right.
[01:11:09] Unknown:
Taking action. Taking action.
[01:11:11] Unknown:
Yeah. You have to take the action. I know something was really weird for me that happened. I mean, it's not weird. It's just like, whatever. Like, after my divorce and, like, I was coming out of rehab, you know, eight and a half years ago ish. And, you know and basically, they were like, don't go back to the house that is causing all this torment for you. And I was just like, I'm a mom. I can't leave my kids. And I felt guilty. And I was like, it cost all this money. So I'm gonna, of course, go back home and try to deal with my kids, and then we'll do our separation and do the separate stuff. Right? And everyone was like, don't do that. And I'm like, no. I have to do that. So, anyway, did that, of course, caused a giant shit show. That was a bad move. Bad move, Val.
But I didn't know at the time, you know, because this guy had never been through anything like this. And I was, of course, like, overcome with shame and guilt and feeling like an awful mom and an awful wife, you know. And, so I was like, I'm gonna go back, and it's gonna be okay and da da da da. But, like, but in the meantime, you know, I was, like, looking for a a house or a rental or something so that like instead of having to go do these other things, it was like, I'm just going to do the separation and go find this place. I wrote down everything I wanted.
I was like, I wanna see horses. I need three bedrooms so that my kids each have a room. I want an art room and I want, you know, my art and meditation area and I want it to be, you know, this many dollars and this many minutes away from the school and then everything. And so, it's like, you know, a month goes by and I'm just, like, literally 10 times a day looking at, you know, Craigslist and Facebook and all this stuff, trying to figure out how the heck how the heck I'm gonna buy you know, not buy, but rent a place. So this morning, this I get, like and I was subscribed to this email list that was, you know, a daily, reading kind of thing, you know, and this girl would, you know, show a card or whatever.
And so the daily reading for this morning was seven mermaids. And I'm like, okay. I love mermaids. I'm an ocean girl, you know. And it was like seven mermaids, blah blah blah, dancing and doing the thing. And I'm great. And so, you know, whatever that afternoon, I'm on my Craigslist, and it shows me the, like, this house, and I'm like, oh, I'm fucking I'm I'm coming right now. Show me, like, your house. Right? Yeah. And I walk around the whole house, and I'm looking, and it's got a little yard. It's got every single thing that I want. It's got an art room. It's sunny. It's bright. It's beautiful. It's in my budget. I go down to the living room.
There are seven tiles above the fireplace of seven mermaids. Mermaids. Of course. Seven. Not four, not three, not a hundred, not one. Seven mermaids. Did you need a did you need a bigger sign than that or was that a better sign? Really like I had a check-in my pocket and the second I saw that, I was like, I'm your tenant. And she was like, well, we need and I'm like, yeah. You do a background check. You do all your things. I'm gonna be fine. I'm gonna be the best tenant you ever had. Here's my money. And and it was just this, like Yep. Holy cow, you know? But it was, like, it was, like, God, you know, because, like, I look at, like, you know, and I have this thing, like, you know, rejection is God's redirection and protection, You know? And it's like when you don't get the thing that you think you want Mhmm. Like, don't get bombed. This this or something better. Got something better for you. This or something better. Right.
[01:14:46] Unknown:
Yeah. Just one of my favorite phrases, this or something better. Totally. This or something better. And And
[01:14:51] Unknown:
it's tough because a lot of times, you know, we're all, we're all challenged with faith. Faith only really shows up when you're in a position where you don't feel faithful, when you feel scared, when you feel nervous, when you feel the rug is getting pulled out from the How are you defining faith? To me, faith is like the ultimate knowing that God's got your back. Okay. You know? And so to me, like, I don't know. That's kinda how I define faith. It's like surrender and trust. Surrender and trust. Surrender and trust. And it's very you know, for for those of us who operate back here in our reptilian brains, we want to control things because it's called survival.
And if you're not in a position of, making sure that the I's are dotted and the T's are crossed and everything's going well, like, that could mean life or death for you, you know? And so, like, when we're in this lower human, which we're supposed to be operating system, when we're in fiat, when we're, like, figuring out money, like, we want to, like, okay, I gotta make sure this is going on and I'm gonna get the client and I got and then you're in this, like, lower vibrational state Yes. Versus being in a higher vibrational state of absolute faith and trust. And it's tough to bridge that. And for you as a bridger, you know, like, how do you help people, get at ease in their nervous systems so that they can still operate as humans with all this physical dimensionality and then still be in a place of faith and trust?
[01:16:38] Unknown:
A couple different things. Good question. One is clearing out the stuff that prevents them from being connected to source.
[01:16:47] Unknown:
Right? Like what what would what would like as an example, like what would be Well, I mean, you were talking about,
[01:16:52] Unknown:
you know, everybody was saying don't go back to the house. Don't and you did. Right? Yeah. But there we have a lot the weight of cultural, imprints and conditioning. And it can be cultural, family, religious, whatever. I have to do this. I'm supposed to do this. I have to go back to the house. The kids, you know, I'm supposed to. All that stuff. The shoulds. Right. The shoulds. Yeah. The shoulds. Right? Versus, you know, following your intuitive hits. So that's, you know, when we clear out a lot of the imprints and the conditioning, we're much more free to feel the connection to source, you know, from whence come these intuitive hits come, come this, I'm not gonna say direction, but nudging, encouragement, suggestions, better word suggestions.
You know, because we have free will, we can do stuff. We can choose not to, you went back to the house, you know. So, when we clear out a lot of the stuff that's in the way, it's much easier. So that's one thing. It's much easier to feel it. And then, of course, as I was referring to before, the more we act on it, the more we practice it, the stronger that communication channel gets. And it's easier to recognize when we're being supported, when we're being guided, when we're being suggested to. Check this out. I mean, when I moved where I am now, I didn't think I was gonna move here for like a year.
And I'm just kind of trolling around on Zillow and, you know, and Craigslist just to see what the neighborhoods were. And I saw this ad on Craigslist and I went, holy shit. If this is what I think this is, this is gonna be checking every single box. Right? Wow. And I got in my van and I, you know, rode 600 miles, you know, to get here and saw it. And as soon as I saw it, I went, this is the place. And it was a good year before I had planned on moving, but the universe is going, no, no, no, no. This is the place and this is the timing and this is when you need to be here. And I and I went back home. And again, it's one of those things where red carpeting, you know, so that's the red carpeting reinforces that you're you're getting an accurate assessment of that nudge. Right? That you're reading that correctly.
Yeah. Because I had driven out in my van with my dog and my brother lives nearby and I'm like, can I leave my van here for a month while I go back? He's like, sure. And I happened to have my dog's travel crate and I happened to have a Delta credit from, you know, a canceled flight during COVID. So I put him in the crate, took a first class flight home, spent a month divesting myself of everything, drove my car and the dog back out and the moving van. But it was like everything just kind of fell into place And the place where I am ticked every single box and then some. You know, the nurse was saying, here's the timing. And it wasn't my timing. It was the universe's timing. That's right. But I had to just say yes to it because everything was saying, yes. This is a yes. This is a yes. I'm like, well, okay. And I'd like, I'd been in California for twenty four years. So I, in four weeks, I eliminated, I garage sales. I, you know, sold stuff. I, all that stuff of when you're moving multi state, right?
It was very I thought my plan was, oh, over the next six months, I'll gradually weed things out. I'll clear out the garage, you know, whatever. Clear out the filing cabinet. No. Four weeks. Boom. Done. Gone. Yeah. It's like so, you know, it's it's partially it's just really acting on that so that you you you have to act on those things. You have to act on it. And the more you do, it does clear out that channel. But it's easier to hear that when you've cleared out some of the the patterns, the conditioning, the the schmutz that you're that's holding, you know, the shmutz. I love it. I love Yiddish. It's like I so the school that I went to, you know, I grew up in Pittsburgh and it was half Jewish. So it's like, you know, I'm not bad for a shiksa, you know, and it's like in all these it's like so it's like I have all these wonderful Yiddish words that I just adore, but Schmutz is a good one. Oh my god. I have I I love that word. I haven't wow. It's just like it's it
[01:20:46] Unknown:
it it it delights me to hear. I've I'm words are my love language, you know? Aw. So anytime there's cool words or affirmation, obviously. So I just love because it is. It's a schmutz. Like, the thing, like It's the schmutz that's in the way and clearing it out.
[01:21:02] Unknown:
Right. And this is this is what I love clearing, you know, clearing out for clients. It's getting rid of all that shit that's in their way so that they're just, like, bright, shiny, you know, light filled beings being out there in the world. Yeah.
[01:21:15] Unknown:
Yeah. And and and that's I think, again, like, you're you're saying is, like, it's not about, like, the addictiveness of, doing coaching and work. It's, like, what's the nature of it. So about sculpturing. Right? We look at Michelangelo and Brecky who is, like, one of my Taking away taking away the extra. We're taking away so that the angel can be revealed. You know? Like Right. The angel is always there, like we just said. You know, the light is always there. It's never not there, but because of conditioning, because of experiences, because of whatever Imprints. Traumatic imprints. All that stuff. Yeah. They get stuck on top of the truth, and the truth of all those light and love. And so, I just think that's like
[01:21:56] Unknown:
such a such an important thing. Let's talk about it. Before we go on, there's so many people think, you know, I have to I have to practice things. I have to, like, have my whole list of, you know, here are all the practices I'm supposed to do and it's very additive. It's very here are all the things I have to do every day to be a good person, you know, to blah, blah, blah. And it's like, it's so, it's really the opposite of that. Yes, there are things we need to do, exercise, good food, blah, blah, blah. But, you know, I know people that have three hour, you know, rituals and regimes in the morning that they have to get through because they've added on so many things into their life. I'm like, damn, is that working for you?
[01:22:31] Unknown:
You know? I know. And it's kinda it's it's like is that, you know, if you look at KPIs or OKRs, it's like is that really is that giving you the result that you're looking for? Right. And a lot of people don't, they don't measure, you know? Because obviously, when you're in the subjective world of spirituality and personal growth, it's kind of like, well, how do I rate my joy or my contentment? And I was just at a women's meetup last night with, like, these women entrepreneurs. And one of the questions you know, and it was really nice because they had all these different tables and you, like, get to meet all these new women. And one of the questions was, like, you know, you know, what do you wanna make sure you do before you die? You know? And the one of the women was like, I just wanna feel contentment. And I was like, well, what the fuck does that mean? You know? Like, what's contentment? You know? And so we were trying to unpack what's contentment. Does that mean I grew some vegetables and I gave them to the homeless guy in the corner? Or does it mean I built a cathedral
[01:23:34] Unknown:
or something? You know? So I'm like, what does contentment look like? And so For that person. For that person. That's why I asked you about faith because it's like, we have all these words, but that, you know, it's not you can't make an assumption that this, that word means the same thing for everybody. Totally. You know? And defining out what that means for her and what that might look like. So how would she know if she got it? How would she know if she achieved achieved that?
[01:23:56] Unknown:
Exactly. And the same thing with, like, faith. Like, think about it. Like, if we were to do a daily faith analysis, I'm doing my daily faith analysis. Like, do I feel faithful when I wake up? Yes. I have air and there's light. Okay. Cool. I can see stuff and I can talk and I can go touch technology. It's lunchtime. How's my faith analysis going? You know, like, how are my KPIs working on my faith? You know? But what I do notice when I work with people too, like the more that people start to kind of, identify a yes or a no and it could be a scale of one to 11 or whatever, that you're tracking your progress, you know? And so you get more like,
[01:24:40] Unknown:
wow, look, I did these things or maybe I didn't do anything and I'm still feeling faithful or I'm still feeling contentment or I'm still feeling like hopeful. And to that and to that point, is it necessary to do stuff? Because it's you know, when I talk about the additive, I have to do all these things in order to achieve something rather than about the contentment. It's like, well, what stops you from just feeling content right now in this moment? Exactly.
[01:25:02] Unknown:
Yeah. It's like, do I have to be a human doer, or can I just be a human being? Right. You know? And I don't know about you, but, like, when COVID was going on, you know, I was alone pretty much most of the time except when my kids would come up with me. And I was just like, I don't have to put makeup on. I don't have to shave my legs. And I'm feeling pretty good. I don't like it. You know? And I was like, I still wanna be healthy and not be like some, you know, Jabba the Hutt, you know, slob. But it it made me have, a brand new look at myself with self love. Yeah. You know? And I had a lot more self love because I didn't feel like I had to go out there and put on the human mask of like, yay. I'm so sparkly and happy all the time. You know, which I am most of the time for real. That's my truth. But I'm also like, yeah. Yeah. Whatever, dude. I got some b o. I'm cool.
[01:26:02] Unknown:
Self love and self acceptance. Just accepting who you are in in any given moment, in any given moment.
[01:26:08] Unknown:
Yeah. And I think I wonder, like, I mean, what what was it like for you during COVID? Like, did you have a different, I don't know. I'm just I'm I'm always like to ask people those questions. Like, did something change for you from your own personal awareness,
[01:26:23] Unknown:
lens? This is really interesting because it's March 13. This was the day five years ago that I shut down my office. Right? Really? Yeah. And I didn't, I never reopened it. So I was, I was working, you know, private practice and I had an office and excuse me, about 50% of my clients were online already. I had clients all over the world, London, Dallas, you know, all over. And, so about 50% were in person, 50% were on Zoom. And everybody kinda went to Zoom. So all the other clients went to Zoom, which I was already comfortable with. And I was like, Oh, so I never reopened my office. You know, and because I'm, I mean, I love being one on one, but I'm a little bit of an introvert. And I just, I live by myself with, you know, with my dog, who's right behind me on the floor here.
And I had my garden. I was like, I was perfectly happy. I was perfectly happy. Cause I could still do my work, really enjoy it, still support people where they were, meet them where they were and support them in the challenges that they had. And I lived in a beautiful rural, you know, I mean, it was, it's a small town, but it's a wine town. So it was, you know, rural and beautiful to walk anywhere. Lots of outdoor time. I had a great time. I had a great time. It was, it really fit me, you know, from my own personality. So many people I know that are incredible extroverts, they were so challenged. Right? Totally. But for me it was like, yeah, this is pretty comfortable. This is good. I know. I'm like, it's, it's, well, it's kinda like business as usual, you know? And it, and it actually freed me up because then I didn't have to deal with the office go there and deal with that stuff. And I just kind of, you know, that went away, but my practice actually just got bigger. So it was like the whole thing kind of at a very personal level worked for me. And the other thing was that in January of that year, I got the sickest I've ever been like flu plus, plus, plus. Woah.
And I'm convinced that I had COVID in January before it was announced because like ten days prior I had been in a big party. Lots of people. It was post Christmas, but everybody had been traveling and they were all over the world and I hugged everybody. So I got really sick for five days. Didn't know what it was cause I never get sick. I don't get the flu. I haven't had flu in decades. I was like super sick. So I think I got COVID before know, any vaccine, whatever stuff I'm like, which means I wasn't afraid of it. And once I kind of figured out what this was, I'm like, Oh, I got through that. Fine. Okay, fine. Yeah. You know, and I'm basically so healthy anyway. Most of the people that, you know, were really compromised had were already comorbidities.
You know, that's those are the people that ended up being on ventilators and and passing because they were already had very serious things going on. Yeah. For the for the rest of us, it was like, you and I've had it once since and it was no big deal.
[01:29:07] Unknown:
It's so crazy. I know. And I hope I don't get like banned on YouTube. I was doing an interview with, Ben Worman, you know who Ben is. Yeah. And it got banned, you know, because we brought up Yep. COVID and vaccines and chemtrails and all this stuff. But it was just like it sure is weird if you look at, like, the, the graphs from whoever, the CDC or whatever. It's like, oh, how many cases of the flu each year? And then all of a sudden,
[01:29:37] Unknown:
when COVID showed up, there were no cases of the flu. But then we had COVID. And I'm just like, you guys, shut the fuck up. Like, you know? Well, I I have lots of opinions about this because I've been in holistic health care for thirty five years and, you know, I know about a bunch of stuff. And I have lots of opinions about why that happened, how it happened, who that benefited, you know, the billions that were made by the pharmaceutical companies. I mean, you didn't hear at the be I'll say this one thing and then I won't go down that whole rabbit hole. But, you know, India has many, many more people in population than we do. And at the beginning, they were having lots and lots of issues. But they pretreated everybody. They didn't wait until they, you know, they used the medications that were available to treat them at the beginning of it. And then you never saw any, deaths coming out of India. It was very interesting. We had many, many more than India did with with a far larger population
[01:30:31] Unknown:
than we had. Do you think it's a was a population calling experiment?
[01:30:38] Unknown:
The I'm you know, I don't really wanna go down this whole thing of Bill Gates and all those folks and, you know, all that stuff. Yeah. We don't have to bring up their names, but, like, do you think that there it was something like, is it a test
[01:30:52] Unknown:
or is it a
[01:30:53] Unknown:
was it a I think I think there are a lot of factors that fit into it. Yeah. Of the whole pharma industrial complex of, you know, people in power wanting to stay in power and to exercise that power in various ways.
[01:31:05] Unknown:
That's all I'll say on that. K. Cool. We yeah. We don't have to go down there. Well, let's talk about collaborative custody. Sure.
[01:31:13] Unknown:
Sure. So
[01:31:15] Unknown:
Andy at the Bitcoin advisor. Tell me what do you do. Andy are great. Yeah. Collaborative
[01:31:20] Unknown:
custody. What's the Bitcoin advisor? I love these two. Of course, I love you. I love everybody who's working with them. It's an amazing team. We've got 40 advisers all around the world, and it's, you know, everybody that you know. I mean, it's Luke Broyles and Huddlnot and, you know, just and so many folks. Seth Bunny, you know, who wrote his book. Of course. Terrence. Terrence, you know. Yeah. Right. Exactly. And here here's another one of those listening to yes stories. So I had gone to Pacific Bitcoin and on the way there in my van, I listened to podcasts when I'm doing long distance driving. And I had listened to Peter Dunworth in an interview. And he was telling the story about like being on a, a surfboard and a white shark. I don't know if you heard that story. It's an amazing story where he basically barely escaped, you know, being eaten by a great white shark, you know, off the beach in Australia. It's an amazing story.
And so I get to Pacific book and I'm and I'm volunteering and running around doing things. And I hear this voice and I'm like, I know that voice. And in the back of the airplane hangar where we were was Peter Dunworth. And I go up and I say, you're the shark guy. And he's like, oh, I am. You know? Oh, I am. Oh, I am. And we ended up having a conversation. And then I had like dinner with him and Luke Broyles, like the night after. And then the next morning, we had, like, a small breakfast. And I knew that they had the Bitcoin advisor, but I'm thinking, oh, these are, like, all the tech geeky guys that they're not gonna, you know, I'm that wouldn't be a good fit. Yeah. And then I heard that Surfer Jim had joined them. I'm like, Surfer Jim? He's like, if Surfer Jim could do it, I could do it. Well, I'm like, that's interesting that they felt that was a good fit. And so I, you know, contacted, Peter and had a conversation, you know, Zoom call with him and Andy.
And by the end of it, they're like, we need you on board. You're female. You have a tech and a finance background. You're basically a boomer, which means we can send you anybody in that in that age range, and you're gonna be able to talk to them, and they'll feel comfortable with you. So that was like a year ago November. And it's been such a joy to be a part of that, you know, that group. And it's an amazing, amazing group of folks. Oh, and, Krista Edmonds too, Access Drive. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh. She's she's part of it. Kai, you know, who's also down in Australia. So 40 advisers all the way around the world. So we help people buy, manage, and secure their Bitcoin through multisig collaborative custody. And we and Peter Dunworth is he's been a financial advisor for high net worth individuals and family offices for over twenty years.
And for the last eight years, he's been helping them incorporate Bitcoin into their major portfolios, which means he's you know, he and Andy had developed these very, very rigorous protocols about security. And, you know, over these eight years, and, the Bitcoin advisor has been around for a couple of years now, not one single Satoshi has ever been lost. And the way that they do it, you know, it's, it's two of three keys, but a lot of other places you might go. I could talk about other companies and I won't, but like all three keys would be with other people or you would have two of the keys and there would be another key holder. What we're doing is we're really eliminating you as a single point of failure. So So you have a key, we have a key, and then there's another key holder. And it takes two of those keys to do a transaction, but only you can initiate a transaction. So it really eliminate, you still have control over everything. Your keys are not all with somebody else.
Only you can initiate that and you have total control over yours. So that's how we structured it. And it's like I said, we've not lost a single Satoshi. We also do estate planning. We do tax strategies. We help people add to their stack. So last year we did a, we kind of surveyed all the clients and the average addition to their stack was 51%. Wow. Yeah. Through various tax strategies and being able to kind of find capital in various places that you might not have thought to do. Yeah. I'm also working with a company and we as the Bitcoin advisor are called Orangebridge. And they have a a, a product that allows you to to pull equity out of your house, latent equity that's just sitting there if you have a lot of equity you've built up, pull it out, put it into Bitcoin.
And, you know, you still keep your mortgage. You're not paying an additional, you know, not like a HELOC payment. There's no monthly payment, but allows you to have Bitcoin and your home. So your home's going up in value and your Bitcoin's going up in higher value. And it's just it's an amazing program. So I'm working with them on that. How are they doing? Because I remember, like, over a year ago, I was trying to get something going with them. And, you know, they were like, you don't qualify. And I'm like,
[01:35:55] Unknown:
what do you mean? Like, all I'm needing is, like, I have equity in my house. I have a lot of it, and it's sitting there not doing anything. Right. Like, just, like, to buy some Bitcoin and pay down your your your loan with the Bitcoin. Like, how are they are they launched yet? Are they alive? They are launched. So this you know, it's it's three guys who have, you know, something like how many years?
[01:36:18] Unknown:
Forty years of mortgage, development, you know, mortgage experience. These are experts. But but you have to do it each state has different rules and regulations. Exactly. With And they were doing so they're now in 17 states. They are launched. Okay.
[01:36:33] Unknown:
And so they've had to be very, very careful about meeting the the, you know, regulatory requirements for each state to be able to launch in that state. NMLS is different. And I know we had a mortgage company, and so it's a pain in the way. And so some of them are, like, cool. Great. This is easy to do business. If there's a default, then it's like a nightmare, you know. So it's like you don't wanna just set up in the nightmare states. You know? So they have I think it's so lame. It's just kinda like, why don't they have a consistent, like, all the states operate under a you know? And as much as I love decentralized
[01:37:05] Unknown:
all this stuff, it's like, why can't we have voters things that are the same? And it's not it's not it's not decentralized. It's it's unique to each state. So they've had to be very, very careful about meeting the requirements for each state. The product is called Co Invest. Yeah. So you're diversifying your home equity into Bitcoin. Mhmm. I encourage people to check it out, and I'm happy to assist anyone that we know that wants to.
[01:37:25] Unknown:
Check out so find, Holly. So find findfyzer.com/holly
[01:37:30] Unknown:
or Or you can yeah. You can go to orangebridge.com. Okay. And, we're one of their their kind of, co partners on this. Because for instance, you take equity out, you put it into Bitcoin, and then what do you do with it? You know? So it makes sense to have it be in in collaborative custody, safely secured while, you know, your equity's going up and your and your, Bitcoin is going up. So the the product, if you go under orangebridge.com, you'll find it, and it's the product's called Co Invest. Cool. Very straightforward. Really well done. Highly recommend them.
[01:38:01] Unknown:
Good. Do you know, CJ Konstanopoulos? Like, he's doing Yeah. Like, he's doing something similar with, like, first and seconds. So I'm curious, like, how and he said they're gonna be launching, I think, towards the end of second quarter.
[01:38:15] Unknown:
Yeah. The the nice thing about this is it's because it's not like a HELOC thing. You're not having to pay monthly payments on it. You know? So it doesn't change your it doesn't change, you know, the monthly outgo. People didn't wanna have you know, be paying payments on this. So that's it's how it's structured and totally recommend people, check it out. So, you know, I love working with, with the Bitcoin advisor. They're great folks, smart. You know, we have monthly team monthly. We have weekly team meetings and it's, you know, I'm I'm with DASB and all these really, really fun folks. And they're all there are two meetings we have because we're global. So you have kind of the European crowd, and then you had, you know, I think the European crowd has a more fun meeting because it's like evening time and they're all with drinks and they're downing things.
And, you know, our meeting is like morning Australia time. They're having coffees. It's like, oh, you know, but it's a great, great group of folks. Great, great group of folks. I love it. And I'm, you know, perfectly happy to to, answer anyone's questions on that. They can reach me through the bitcoinadvisor, .com. And it's er because they're in Australia. They spell it funny. Yeah. .Com/holly. You can find my page there, and I'm happy to answer any questions about what we do and how to support you.
[01:39:29] Unknown:
Yeah. I think it's great. I know. I love seeing you know, we were talking about this the other night at the women's meetup, and it was like, there's so many of us that have all these different talents and skills and backgrounds. You know? And it's like, how does Bitcoin fuse into these things? You know? So whether it's personal development, whether it's taking a second out on your house, whether it's collaborative custody, whether it's podcasting or music or lightning splits or any of it. It's, like, so neat. The the bridges, you know, of of everything. And and I know I imagine for you, because it sounds like you've said this, like, you don't even know, like, oh my gosh. Money affects this, and then it does this, and it makes my behavior change. And then I do this thing over here, and then it changes my relationship. And then, you know, and so it's like this constant, like, hop, skipping, and jumping all over the place with with these things in our lives.
How, I'm gonna just you know, we'll wrap it up here because I know we've been a little over time, but, like, how, what do you see for the future for Bitcoin, Holly?
[01:40:39] Unknown:
That's a really good question. You know, I think it's going to be forming people people kind of get that it's gonna be forming a foundational the financial foundational layer, but they don't, and they're starting to understand through, Eric Gladstein. Is that his first name?
[01:40:58] Unknown:
Alex.
[01:40:59] Unknown:
Alex. Thank you. Alex Gladstein. You know, Human Rights Foundation, getting, supporting stranded energy in various places like Africa, you know, hydroelectric, creating energy for villages, and they're getting electricity. So you they have lights to study at night, but they're also earning Bitcoin. So Totally. So it's not just we're in first world countries and we think of it as a financial instrument number go up. We're really lucky that way. But, you know, it's it's gonna form the the platform, the foundation for so many different things globally.
And it's kind of relates into the big shift that we are in in terms of consciousness. And the qualities of Bitcoin totally align with, the values and the qualities of this new earth that is emerging. This decentralized equality, individual sovereignty, global borderless truth, transparency, all of these things. And, you know, Bitcoin is, because it's digital money and everything is energy and frequency, Bitcoin is really energy money. Right? And it's going to it's going to create a neutral, global money that that enables and promotes borderless concentrate, constant cooperation and peace. The where we're headed in this, this really big, shift in, in global consciousness.
Yeah. I mean, we're moving from kind of top down corporate political governmental structures and the elites having power over individuals and the severe, financial and human rights inequalities that we've seen. Yeah. And the and the the qualities of separation and division and, you know, manipulation, all those kinds of things. And we're really moving moving into a time of a much higher octave of consciousness, of cooperation, collaboration, power to the individual, individual sovereignty, personal sovereignty, and learning how to be energetic cocreators on the planet.
So we're gonna we're gonna see, and this is, you know let's see. Where do I wanna go with this? You know, we talk about how Bitcoin gradually then suddenly, that hockey stick. Yeah. It's gonna be the same thing in terms of the shift in consciousness. This is not gonna be a linear process. This is going to be a very sudden, really big state changes, shifts that are coming this year and next year. I mean, this is not far out. This is now. So we're really coming we'll be coming together as humanity in unity consciousness. And we'll see in that process rapid breakthroughs in science and technology and aviation and genetics and, medicines, you know, like energy medicines, healing technologies, plasma physics, all of these kinds of things, rapid, rapid, rapid shifts.
And the idea of having, for instance, free energy for everybody on the planet, which seems like way, way far out there, but it's gonna be much, much closer. But it's not. That's the thing. I mean, the the free energy movement has been completely suppressed, obviously. Absolutely. I mean, it already exists. The technology already exists. Right? Yeah. There's no yeah. It's just a matter of the incentives again. Like Totally. Free energy doesn't have huge incentives for the people who are used to making trillions of dollars off of the global market. There you go. There you go. So we're shifting from, like, you know, mind thought into the wisdom of our heart awareness. And so this is, you know, 2025 is a real, it's a real tipping point. It's a real paradigm shattering time. And it's predicted been predicted for eons and I won't even go into all the, you know, the different, galactic patterns that are that are completing this year and so beginning a very, very new transformative time.
So it's a time of awakening, shattering truths being revealed. Reality as we know it really, really shifting. Dissolution of the old paradigms. The beliefs, the constructs, all that stuff. So we're really moving into a time of kind of personal sovereignty, but also soul sovereignty.
[01:44:54] Unknown:
And what would you suggest for folks who might be listening who, again, because we we've got a couple of things obviously that are are, the barriers, the forces, the boundaries that are up against us, you know, whether they're our own personal imposed ones or, you know, from external forces. But like, what I know and I'm sure you see too is this tribalism mindset. Right? Us versus them in these dualistic ways of, approaching life. You know? The Republicans and Democrats, the this religion versus that religion, the this country versus that country, all the stuff, you know? And so there's this, I I think there's an intentional, pollution of the the the words, you know, and of the stories that are being told out there. And so what would you help people share, you know, so that they don't get Velcroed into that tribalism where they're just like, it's it's us versus them kind of thing so that they can remember, like, let's rise up 10,000 feet, 30,000, 10, hundred thousand feet, and look down and just be like, this is all just a game.
And the game is about how much can you love and how much can you, like, make the world a better place? Like, what would you tell people on, like, a practical level that they could do so that they don't feel like the Velcro is getting them all the time? Right. Exactly.
[01:46:22] Unknown:
Just to back up a little bit in on that idea is it's like there are two, timelines that are happening, two frequency timelines that are happening. And it's like two trains leaving the station, you know, parallel tracks, but the tracks are starting to diverge. Uh-huh. And so there are two different frequency timelines. And one is the kind of the fear based mainstream media, mainstream tech. And it's giving energetic life support to the old system that is crumbling. And a lot of people are still very, very, very, very attached to that because that's all they've known and they're terrified that if that goes away, you know, where will they be? And then there's the kind of, I'm calling it the love train. And it's like feeding the timeline of the new earth and it's residing in joy, you know, gratitude, compassion, love, peace.
And, you know, it's, we have to kind of consciously choose to be on that. Right now we can kinda go between them and I can feel myself doing that sometimes. I'm caught up in the thing. Right? Totally. But the other analogy that I'll use is like being kind of the bird up on the branch. And we're just you just watching, oh, look at that's happening over the oh, look, they're they're spray painting Teslas over there. Okay. Right. You know, they're they're like and so just watching all the drama play out and not being not what's that expression about? You know, if you, if you roll in the, in the, in the mud with pigs, they just have a good time and you just get dirty. Right? So it's like being able to have that kind of discernment to, to be able to observe what's happening in the world, but not get caught up in the drama of it. And part of that is having the practices where, you know, you are this next year specifically is going to be very turbulent, very chaotic. The energies are going to be very chaotic. So it's very, very important that we do be taking care of ourselves. Yeah. And the three things that I really suggest people do is Cool.
Stay in grounded stillness, whatever that means for you. Meditation, you know, going outside and being on grass, you know, so you're touching the earth, grounding. Touching the earth, grounding, whatever, you know, whatever works for you in that way. So, you know, whatever practice you use for grounded stillness, maintaining that observer perspective. This is like a little bird sitting on a branch up here. Watching the drama playing out without engaging. And we talk in Bitcoin about signal. And this is ignoring the signal, ignoring the distractions and really focusing on the signal. And the signal is that train that's leaving the station that's like, I wanna be on that train. That's signal. I want to be, you know, feeling love, peace, joy inside of me and being, we're mixing metaphors all over the place here. Being the lighthouse that's sending out love, peace, joy around me. Right? So that's one thing is staying in grounded stillness, however you're doing that.
And the other is, and there are three things here, connecting to like minded people to share and collaborate, build community. Cause it's, you know, instead of just doing this all by yourself, but finding your, what I'm calling your frequency tribe. Yeah. Your vibe tribe, baby. Let's go. Vibe tribe. There you go. And and the third thing is holding a clear vision of the ideal world that you want to see manifested. Yeah. Because the thing is, as we move into this time of of, you know, advanced ascended consciousness, things are gonna be manifesting like that. It used to be a really much longer time between you would think something and then it would show up in three d.
As we think, we create, but that timeframe is gonna get a lot, a lot, a lot shorter. So really holding that clear vision of what am I wanting? Where am I wanting that love train to go? What do I want that world to look like? Yeah. How do I wanna inhabit it? How do I want people to, interact with each other? What do I want that to look and feel like? So those are really the three things that can really help you stay stable as we move through this really, really turbulent, amazing I mean, it's gonna be amazing time. If you don't get caught up in the in the mud part of it and you're just watching going my personal version of this, when Trump got elected the second time, I'm like, perfect. Look at the dream team he's establishing around him, Tulsi, Kennedy, you know, it's like, oh, this is how we're gonna get from here to there. And people are just having fits about, but he's not in the same place mentally and energetically that he was the first administration. I don't know whether it was the, you know, the close call, but he cares about his legacy now. He cares about making a difference and he still may be bombastic and whatever, that's his personality.
But what he wants to create and the and what's being created here through him, not just him, through him and the people around him is part of this huge shift that we are, experiencing and where we're headed. Yeah.
[01:50:51] Unknown:
I love it. And I think that says a lot too to people, like, just, you know, to put a bow on it. We're not the same people we were four years ago. We're not the same people we were eight years ago. And so neither are the people around us. And so for all of us to, like, operate from a place of grace, you know, and operate from a place of, like, it is gonna be a little messy, you know, and it's gonna be okay. Like, we're gonna get through this. And I love that you mentioned, you know, making sure that you're part of a community that you feel aligned with, you know, heart, body, mind, soul, like minded folks. And, that makes all the difference. Because It really helps. Especially for those of us who are, you know, Bitcoiners and, you know, and I know for female Bitcoiners, you know, there's not as many of us. So it's nice for us to just be like, hey, what's up? High five. But, you know, it's like find your tribe, you know, and contribute to your tribe and your tribe is gonna continue to support you too. So it's a, you know, a reciprocal loop kind of thing.
Well, so I am so excited to see you next Tuesday on the the spaces with Lauren and Tomer, and we're gonna have some fun. It'll be, 08:30 Pacific on Tuesday morning on, Bitcoin today. And then this is obviously gonna be out there on all the channels. I'll, you know, edit it and put it up on our podcast stuff, but
[01:52:15] Unknown:
I really like, I love you. I'm so glad that you're my friend. I love you too. This was so much fun. This was like and I'd love to, you know, as you were talking about just having it be an organic process and just see where, you know, where everything wanted to flow because it's all about flow. It's all about, you know, alignment, frequency, and flow. That's it. You know? That's everything. Totally. I know. And the more that we try to, like, control it and turn it into this, like, little SOP kind of thing, it's like, man, this is Nah. It doesn't work. It doesn't work. And it's part of, and it's part of surrendering to connection to source. You know, it's like one of the things that I am still I still struggle with sometimes because I'm a quad Capricorn. I'm like all about, you know, hard work, make a like, oh my gosh. Thank God I have a Leo moon and that allows me to kinda be, here I am. But it's like surrendering to surrendering to being in flow, surrendering to to connection to source and being in flow. And when we do that, we are so well supported.
So then I talk about that red carpet. The red carpet. It's just red carpet all the time. Right? It's like yep. And it's like and a lot of people get this,
[01:53:16] Unknown:
you know, again, and it's a fear and a control response of, like, I wanna have all the steps mapped out before I even take the first step. And it's kind of like, you know, dear God, what's the next right step? What's the next right move? What's the next right thing? And so when we can get in alignment with not thinking that we need to have the whole journey mapped out, because you it never works out anyways. Even if you think I'm mapping it out and you're like, I'm on MapQuest or Google or whatever, it's kinda like, oh, shit. The kid has got a pee, so we're stopping now. Yeah. We're gonna go to this, like,
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little tiki hut thing here on the side of the road. And you never know what's gonna happen there. It could be wonderful. I mean, I I encourage people to work with their attention and their intention. Right? So have a clear intention about what you're wanting and give your attention to that. Yeah. It's a little bit like when you, you know, said I want this house with the the the the the the the the. Right? Totally. Got it. Same thing happened when I moved to California. It's like I had this clear vision of the in the house that I wanted and it totally manifested. Yeah. So having having a clear intention, and that kinda relates back to the train that the love train. Having a clear intention about what you're wanting and giving your attention, intention and attention to that Yeah. Will help you, you know, create that in your life. And it will magnetize to you the things that will support that and support you in that process. Yeah. I think that's so important because a lot of times people think like,
[01:54:39] Unknown:
oh, if I'm just in flow, it just means I'm just like a little leaf in the wind and I'm just gonna let the wind blow me. It's like, no, dude. You're like you're a co creator. You are a co creator and you have, you know, this sounds weird. I never said it this way, but you have a responsibility as a co creator to be intentional about what you wanna create. Yeah. Otherwise, you're just gonna get presented with all this stuff and You'll get the default. You'll get the default rather than what you really want. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. Well, thank you again, Holly. And Thank you, love. Great to be with you So as always. With you. I know. Right? And so I look forward to many more, and I'm excited to see you next Tuesday. So everybody tune in. And then make sure you guys follow Holly. Follow Holly, at bliss underscore smart on x, and then make sure you go to the bitcoinadvisor.com/holly if you guys wanna connect and learn about collaborative custody and all the other things that she's up to. So And And they can reach me there through anything else too. And bliss bliss smart is like bliss the smart way. When I said it doesn't have to be hard or take a long time, it's bliss the smart way. Totally. I know. Right? It's like you're cool because you're a bridger. You know? You're the left and the right. So that's exactly what it is. I love it. Exactly. Alright, everybody. Thanks so much. Thank you, love. Peace, love, and warm. Aloha, Holly and everyone, and I'll talk to you guys soon. Mhmm. Yay. Bye.
Bye.
Hey. Aloha, love tribe. So I have the privilege, and you do too because your ears and your eyes are gonna get to hear and see somebody who I've been following for quite a while, and we've become friends over the the heart and the soul of how Bitcoin is connecting us and how Bitcoin is transforming us from the inside out and not just, you know, number go up. But Holly Berkeley is somebody who is so special. You guys are gonna love this episode. We're gonna be talking about conscious money for humanity. And, you know, Holly, I would love for you to tell everybody, like, how did you get to become a Bitcoiner? And you've got, like, you've got an insane past.
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And then all of a sudden, here you are with, like, consciousness and Bitcoin and humanity. So welcome, Holly, and, thanks so much for taking time to be on the show. I am so happy to be here, and I always love spending time with you, DJ Val. This is, like, so much fun. It's just like, yay. Fun time. Shirt. I know. I saw your shirt. You're like, I wore that shirt for you, Val. Just for you. Because it was, like, really fun and playful and paisley, and it's it's just a Val shirt. So I had to wear it so we could play today. Totally.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So let's see. Where do you let's see. Where should we start? How have I gotten into Bitcoin or how I just, like let me just give it What's your background? Because you're back I mean, you've got such a huge background as, you know, a a financial woman, a technologist,
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and personal growth, and everything. And and, obviously, now doing doing, like, spirituality and Bitcoin. Like, how the heck did all that stuff
[00:02:01] Unknown:
happen? And what's your arc? Like, what's your story arc? As soon as I get this thing out of my eye. Yes. Let me kind of back up, you know, a few decades here. I always say I've had, like, an incredibly broad range of careers and experiences, really big zigs and zags. A lot of people have a very kind of, you know, straight trajectory and mine has not been that way at all. You know, and I I look back and I go, that's nuts. But I also look back on it and go, I'm really grateful for it. Yeah. Way, way, way back when, I was in the arts. I used to be a dancer, did classical ballet for ten years, and and then moved into the art field. My whole family was in the arts and ended up working for Christie's Fine Arts in in Madison. And, you know, a couple of galleries in London and was into art restoration. That's what I graduated in.
Chemistry and and languages and, you know, weird amalgam of different things graduating college. But you can't live on that in New York. I mean, there's no way you can live on an art salary in New York. So I ended up talking my way into the back office of a primary dealer and just doing back office reconciliation. It's like, okay. Fine. And it was just really easy. And they looked at me, and they went, we think you'd make a good trader. Do you know? Do you wanna do that? And I'm like, sure. So I I studied and got my, hang on one second. I've got something in my eye.
Got my series seven license Okay. Which was, you know, quite a shift. Yep. And so I ended up trading for a couple of years. What's that? It's a big deal to do that. It was a big deal, especially because I didn't have a financial, you know, training background. I studied my tail off and got the series seven, traded fixed income arbitrage with this primary dealer for a couple of years, but I wasn't sleeping at night. I mean, I some people have, like, a trader personality where they just love taking on risk, and I wasn't that. And I was, like, not sleeping. I had $1,500,000,000 trades on, and I'm, like, up all night. So I just started teaching myself computer languages and started writing software for myself that I needed. You know, like fixed income, yield curve analysis, stuff like that.
And ended up moving into the back side of the firm, the research side of the firm, and doing all this, you know, tech stuff. So I kinda got into tech through the backdoor, not through a front comp sci degree or anything like that. Got it. And and worked on Wall Street for a couple of years, you know, developing, software for various firms, Muni bond broker, stuff like that. And ended up opening, opening up the Manhattan office for Sun Microsystems, which is a really hot firm at the time. So I was head of tech support for Manhattan, which was nuts.
Holy. Banks, brokerages, you know, insurance companies, all this kind of stuff. And then my last corporate job was, director of corporate technology strategy for American Express. So doing pilot programs for the five business units. So that was kind of like the, you know, the, tech and finance aspect of my career. But I had an event happen to me, a personal event happen to me that really it kinda red pilled me on on the corporate matrix. Now there's the red pill and the orange pill. I had a red pill experience of what is corporate America. And it really it kinda woke me up, not just to that, but more of, you know, who are we? Everything is energy. We are spiritual beings having a human experience. Holy.
You you're gonna date me. I mean, like, it was a long time ago. A long time ago. A minute ago. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I mean, like yeah. I'm basically a boomer. So this was, you know, if I really tell you, I mean, it was 1991.
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Wow. So you were having, like you know, you're involved in Wall Street. You're in tech. You're in all of this, and then all of a sudden, you're having this kind of spiritual awakening. I had a spirit and an event an event that happened. 04/15/1991,
[00:05:57] Unknown:
you know, in a hotel room in San Francisco. I mean, I I can, you know, exactly where I was. And it just took What what was the the trigger of the event? Can't even it was a personal thing that happened, and I can't even go there. You know? But, it kinda rug pulled my my, version of what is reality. You know, what you know to be true, what you know to be reality, and it just totally rug pulled that. I was like, woah. If that's not true, then any of the other things true? Dude. You know, what is reality? And I I I had this, palpable experience of, you know, we are much larger than this three d human experience.
Yeah. So, you know, after I kind of did that and started going down that rabbit hole and and going to meditation retreats and studying Reiki and studying traditional Oriental medicine and I couldn't stay in the corporate world anymore. So I ended up, you know, consulting back for a while just to kinda do a transition between the two worlds and then develop my own my own practice, which I've had for the last thirty five years.
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Long time. Isn't it crazy? It's nuts. That's totally nuts. When you you told me, like, both of our ages, I think, defy gravity. You know? Like and because I still don't believe you. I think you you're not telling the truth. This
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is what clean living does. I mean, this is the thing. Be because I kinda got into holistic health care Yeah. I've been doing that for thirty five years, and it's like, I I really love teasing, you know, Larry Lippard because, you know, he he's always doing all this CrossFit stuff and saying CrossFit. And I'm a year old I'm a year older than he is, you know. I'm like, I got this. I got this, Larry. You know, the clean eating, all the good exercise, the really taking care of myself, meditation, all the things that, you know, that Bitcoiners kinda discover, all their personal sovereignty things that they discover, I've been doing for a really, really long time. So, you know, that's why I'm happy and healthy and, you know, to Sage.
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Well, so I wanna ask you because, you know, a lot of times so so next Tuesday, okay, you know, I know we're talking about this prior to to hitting record. We're gonna be doing, a live spaces with Lauren and Tomer. And some people, like, are on a journey and then all of a sudden they discover Bitcoin and then they have a spiritual awakening. Right. Like, you and I are different because we've had spiritual awakenings decades ago. And then Bitcoin was sort of like this little, I always call it, like, the trivial pursuit cheese, you know, and it's kind of like, oh, that's the missing ingredient that we did for the whole system, which is this conscious money. Right?
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So Right. Yeah. It was like it was like the puzzle piece. So Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I heard about Bitcoin in 2017.
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And because of my tech and finance background, I totally discounted it. I'm like, I totally dismissed it. It's like, this isn't money. I know what money is. Right? Totally. Right. And Exactly. Yeah. Isn't that the weirdest thing? I know. And I worked with Deloitte and Touche. I started a fund with my ex husband, and I'm like, I know what money is. And then I was like Right. You don't know what the fuck money is. Like, you know what finance is, but you don't know what money is. At all not at all. Totally different. You know? So that's, like Exactly. Complain experience. So let's talk about that. Like, how did it how did your brain start going? You know? Well, it wasn't until
[00:09:06] Unknown:
I heard, and it was it was late January, early February of '20 '1. And I heard the, Michael Saylor and Ross Stevens sixty minute interview because they were doing Bitcoin for corporations conference. You know, Saylor was doing that. Yeah. And, I assume everybody knows who Ross Stevens is, but just in case, he's CEO of Stoneridge, which, you know, manages over 20,000,000,000 in investments, and he's also executive chair of New York, Digital Investment Group. NYDIG. Yeah. NYDIG. Exactly. And he's brilliant. You know, he's PhD in finance. I mean Heart. Big heart. Here big heart and incredible. His shareholder letters that he puts out every year are absolutely worth checking out. So I heard that hour long, you know, discussion between the two of them, and all the pieces fell into place. Because I had the tech and the finance, but it's like, oh, that's what this is. That's what Bitcoin is. That's the role it's going to play in this global transformation that we are moving towards and moving into. So it's like you were saying, it was like, that was my orange pill moment, but it was more like the capstone, the little the little missing puzzle piece rather than the big door opening and then all the other personal sovereignty things kinda come from there. I've been doing personal sovereignty for years. Totally. It was just like, oh, here was the missing piece. And then after that, I was like, I am in a %. I just started liquidating, you know, my portfolio and being on Clubhouse for hours every night and listening to all the podcasts and, like, let's see, stack it's from it's out of my own stack of books, you know, all of the, like, Bitcoin books.
So, yeah, that was kind of my my entry into all of that.
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And how's it been for you, like, you know, because I always like to talk to people about, like, you know, I wrote an article, called the Bitcoiner's Dilemma, you know, and we talk about, you know, how your world view changes, how your relationship view changes, and then how your inner personal view changes. And so I think, you know, once we become, you know, like the tap on the shoulder and we get the like you got and I I got in my own way too, Like, our relationships completely change, you know? And so whether they're your professional relationships, your personal relationships, whatever your neighborhood, and because you're just I don't know about you, but, like, I'm so much more magnetized like a moth to a flame to hanging out with people who are freedom warriors, you know, and who get it. And so when I'm with other folks who don't get it, it's kind of like, well, okay, I'm doing a service here to try to show up and listen more than I talk, you know, hopefully, but that's not always the case. But,
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you know It's like it's like being with it's like being with the muggles. I mean, it's like you just have to be patient, you know, and just feed them information and hope they get it and hope they, you know, they run with it. Yeah. I mean, I this I kinda like I said, I kinda came at it backwards because the all the realizations that Bitcoiners have, I've been, you know, following their orange pill moments, I'd had decades prior. So I'd been living my life from that place of clarity and awareness. And, of course, I'm still learning and releasing old patterns and growing an understanding of, you know, how the cosmos is evolving. But I've basically been on this path for a long time. So, you know, the quality of my relationships, my health, all the things that Bitcoiners move into increasing the quality and their their personal sovereignty around health, relationships, family, work, you know, nature, whatever that is, had already kind of been in place, and then Bitcoin just was the capstone. You know, it was great. It's amazing. Right? And and and and it's like
[00:12:33] Unknown:
I mean, I always felt, like, you know, the Woodstock generation had it. Right? You know? And and hey, dude. Chills. I typically don't have her in his studio when I'm recording, but she wouldn't leave and I, you know Mine's mine's under the desk down here. So Oh, hi, Munchy. But it's like imagine if the Woodstock generation had Bitcoin. Imagine if doctor Martin Luther King had Bitcoin. Imagine if Gandhi had Bitcoin. You know? And it's kinda like Right. What imagine if Bob Marley or John Lennon had Bitcoin. You know? It's kind of like I mean, and I know, it's like, what would be happening with their voices?
What would they be doing? You know? What kind of movements and marches or songs or events or anything, what would they have done
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if Bitcoin was in their holster of a tool, you know, for their peace and love and freedom and sovereignty movement? Right. And it wasn't those energies are, it's like there were seeds planted in the sixties, peace, love, you know, all that kind of stuff that are that are blossoming now. It's the same energies and a lot of Piscean energy because, you know, an an Aquarian energy that we're we're moving moving into. But it's the same energies that are actually coming up to the surface now with much more effectiveness, you know, in terms of being able to make a difference in the world. But that definitely the seeds were planted then.
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Well, let's talk about that because we were talking about it right before we jumped on and we've got obviously this eclipse that's happening, you know, in the next forty eight hours. Do you wanna talk a little bit more about that? Because I know we were talking about Monica Bravo. I love you, Monica. If you're listening, we both love you. Hi, Monica. You know, like, let's talk about, like, what your experience is as, I call you a wisdom keeper. You know, like, you're somebody in my life who I consider a wisdom keeper. And, I very much revere you as a friend and a woman and as a Bitcoiner and as a spiritual woman.
Let's talk about, you know and and I'm not, like, suggesting anybody who's listening like, oh, you have to go read tarot cards and do astrology all day long. But like there are these things called patterns. And so, I'd be curious to hear your, hear your take on like what's happening right now in the cosmos.
[00:15:01] Unknown:
Yeah. Let's talk about like the stuff that's immediate, like right now, you know, in the next forty eight hours or something. And then we can, you know, a little bit later, maybe talk about some of the larger, larger trends that are unfolding. And of course, you know, astrology stuff, we're really talking about, frequencies. Planets have frequencies. And those frequencies impact us in different ways. So this is not about, what's the word I'm looking for? Destiny preordained. It's not anything like that. It's as different planets move into different relationships with each other and with us, we are impacted by that. So tonight, at least you know, in I'm on, I think same time zone as you, mountain time.
There's a blood full moon and a lunar eclipse in Virgo and happening to And I was really hoping I would be able to see it. But, you know, we've got snow and rain and various other things happening tonight. But it's really energetically, it's a major ignition point for the personal and the global global shifts that are unfolding. So it's like a an energetic cosmic reset, if you will. And it's gonna be bringing sudden clarity, powerful revelations, life changing shifts. And we're already seeing that. You know, it it the energies start a few days prior and from this eclipse, it's actually gonna continue for the next six months, believe it or not. So universe is clearing away, doubts, opening new doors, pushing you into alignment with your your destiny, your soul's destiny, what your soul really wants for you.
So right right now, it's an opportunity to release that which is no longer serving you, which we've, outgrown, you know, at a at a really deep level. And we're we're detaching from energies, emotions, unhealthy connections that are not in alignment with our higher self. So, at a little bit larger sense, we're clearing some of the patterns of our collective past and we're gonna see truths exposed in unexpected, ways that have been kind of lurking under the surface. And we've already been seeing that the last couple of months with Doge and what's going on with that. But things that are kind of hidden in plain sight and things revealing that, what is no longer in conscious vibrational alignment with us, you know, with our country, with the globe.
And that personally, that might bring revelations that challenge your existing perspectives, leading to a deeper understanding of yourself and perhaps others. So that's kind of, you know, what's happening with these energies right now. And they're gonna support you in, embracing your, conscious evolution and stepping into, you know, what you're already becoming. Like your sovereign self. And that's one of the things I'm really focusing on these days is kind of like soul sovereignty. It's a higher level sovereignty. Kind of the the top of Maslow's hierarchy of needs. You know, that very, very top triangle, of soul sovereignty.
So, you know, over the next few years, these energies, we're gonna see significant and abrupt planetary trans, transitions to elevated timelines. And that's well underway right now.
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And it's What would you say, Holly, to people who might be listening, who are, you know, I was just watching, you know, I always like to watch YouTube little nerd videos, whatever. And, you know, and it was so weird because mentally, I was thinking of self sabotage and some stuff that's going on for me personally, you know. And, you know, and I did, like, a little micropsychedelic journey a couple weeks ago. Mhmm. And the biggest thing that came up for me was I need some assistance with my resistance, you know, and I'm having, you know, this this and I know it's all me. It's not anything else. It's me psychologically or, you know, spiritually, emotionally, energetically.
Like, why am I putting a barrier up to this next level of my evolution? Yeah. And so, you know, so I was journaling, thinking about it and all this. And then, of course, I mean, literally, I'm not even saying anything out loud. And all of a sudden, YouTube's, like, going, here's your Jungian self sabotage, you know, shadow work thing. You know? Yeah. And I'm like, are they fucking listening inside of here? Like, I think they are. Who knows? We all have these weird experiences of, like, we think about something and it's like, then it shows up on our feed or whatever. Yeah. Not and not speaking it out loud and not texting it. And it's like, it's literally this weird stuff is showing up in our timelines. And so I'm just like, are we really in a sim? Are we you know, who the heck knows? But regardless, I'd love to learn, you know, because we've obviously got this, you know, these big potent intersections of the planets. And, you know, a couple weeks ago, it was like all these planets were in alignment and all this stuff. So why do people such as myself who have this big vision of, like, I wanna do great things in the world, all of a sudden put a freaking orange cone and roadblock our stuff and say, nope. We are not going past here. We're gonna go backwards instead.
You know? And so it's almost like this, like, this dojo, this test, you know, and then spirit god universe is just like, are you sure you understood the lesson? You know? And it's kinda like this little, it's like a quiz or a midterm or something. And I'm kinda like, oh, we gotta keep you know? So how do you help people who are suffering from the resistance of moving forward even though they know? Like, they see the vision and they want to go do the thing. Like, how do you support your your clients, the people you work with, your community?
[00:20:48] Unknown:
That's a really good question, and there are kind of a few ways I can come in on that. Let's see. One is, we're feeling things more intensely now because we're right in this in this global trans transition, massive global shift. And I've been hearing for the last couple of decades, it's coming, it's coming, it's coming. And then this year, 2025, I'm hearing from multiple different sources, it's here, it's now. So and we can't take our baggage with us as we transition, you know, into higher levels of conscious awareness and consciousness. And so our stuff, our our shit is really up intensely.
And that can be very uncomfortable and disturbing. So that's one piece. The second is, you know, we come into these particular incarnations with, I'm gonna say we're all fractals of, you know, galactic consciousness. And consciousness wants to experience itself. So as it As we come into these incarnations, it says, let's experience this. And that might be poverty. That might be scarcity. That might be, you know, whatever it is that we're here to kind of experience. And I don't call it a lesson, but it's just consciousness wanting to experience itself in a hugely broad number of different ways of all the people who are on the planet. That being said, there are, as we are here in this, having this human experience, we have things happen to us in childhood. You know, traumas, events, things like that from which we form beliefs.
I'm not good enough. This is how I can expect the world to treat me. All these kinds of things. And that belief forms behaviors and then we sort for events around us that confirm those beliefs. And we discount things that don't confirm those beliefs. And so we reinforce those beliefs over time and they become kind of our personal truths. Right? They're not they're not capital t truths. They're small t truths because they're ours. They're not like, you know, gravity and consciousness and, you know, global truths, but they're our truths. And we hold them and we have those patterns of belief or behaviors, strategies that we employ until they're just not working anymore.
And and that we're kinda bumping up against I keep doing this and I keep doing this pattern and I wanna shift it and I just can't figure out how to do it. And your left brain, your mental mind goes, I'm so done with this and I've tried all these things and it's still frigging there and it's driving me nuts. The secret is we have to get kind of below the water line. Here's our conscious mind and here's our subconscious mind. It's a little bit like the iceberg thing. Right? Yeah. Yeah. And we have to get into the subconscious part because that's where all that stuff resides. It doesn't reside in conscious thought. So you can do all the conscious affirmations you want and they're just slide off like Teflon. Unless you get into the subconscious and shift where it resides, at the mental, emotional, physical level, tissue memory in your neurology.
If you shift the impact of that event, and you clear that, all the beliefs and all the behaviors and all the strategies that are sitting on top of it release organically on their own. So part of what I do with clients is kind of advanced personal growth work. I call it graduate school for personal growth. Cool. Because a lot of times I will get people come to me and they've been in traditional talk therapy for years and talking, talking, talking, nothing ever shifts. Yeah. But we get one of the skills that I have, thank you, you know, is that, what's that called?
That little journey, you know, to figure out what's the source Right. Of of all this stuff that's happening. And then using advanced, bioelectrical tools, to clear that from the neurology, from What is it? What's an advanced bioelectrical tool? Well, we are we are bioelectrical beings. We are bioelectrical beings. We tend to think, you know, Western medicine thinks of us primarily as biochemical beings, hormone cascades, you know, drugs, chemicals. Right? Right. But but really when you get down to the subatomic level, we are bioelectrical. Yeah. So we're really we're really just frequencies, vibrations, and consciousness.
Yeah. That's what we are. So when you're working at the electrical level, I fully believe that medicine is going to transition over time into primarily energy medicine, not and we're gonna look at surgery and pharmaceuticals like the same way we look at bloodletting and, you know, you know, that kind of stuff. Right. All the old, old, old ways of thinking. Exactly. So, and I've, I've worked with clients for years even on a more physiological level of clearing cancer and clearing things through clearing frequencies and vibrations that are being held in their system. So if you use tools that make use of that, you can clear things like that.
I mean, I had one session who was, this is a long time ago because I'm not doing, you know, table body work anymore. But she came to me and she was scheduled for fibroid surgery the next week. And we did some work and discovered that there had been an event a long time ago that had kind of created, I will call that an energy cyst in her body. We cleared that and she checked in, you know, a week later and there was no, there was, there were no fibroids there to be, you know, surgically removed. So, you know, the body is basically a bioelectrical structure. Yeah. And so if we're working at that level, it's very easy to make shifts and changes.
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And it's so important for people to understand that. Like, when I started learning about holistic healing and health and Reiki and everything back in the early nineties, I went to a school called the School of Healing Arts and got my little holistic health practitioner thing and, you know, studied Louise Hay, studied Barbara Brennan, studied, like, how is energy the thing? Because, like, they wanted you to go in and do all this, you know, let's just work on the body and physical stuff. And it was just like, no. It's like the energy of how somebody is, operating is the most important thing in their vibe. And that's why I'm Valerie the vibe goddess when I do DJ stuff. Yeah. Whatever. And it's like, if you can help yourself understand, you know, your operating system, I call it your human operating system or your vibration operating system, your VOS, then you get to be the master of your code. You get to be the master of how your day goes. But, like, again, we still even though, like, we consciously know these things Yeah. We're like, yep. Checkbox. Checkbox. I believe it. Yep. This is accurate. But because we have these old traumas Mhmm. These old things that haven't gotten, the slate wipe clean. Right. And and even if you go in and do different types of energy work or hypnotherapy or anything and you go wipe the slate clean, it's kind of like, it's a garden.
If you're not weeding the garden all the time paying attention, and fertilizing it with the good stuff, and making sure you're like, Oops, there was a little seed left over from this thing. Exactly. Yeah. And that's where I think a lot of people, they get discouraged because they go and they do this work or they spend this money and they do a retreat or they have this, like, oh, I did, you know, 20 sessions with my therapist. And it's kinda like I thought I already cleared that. Totally. Totally. That's what, dude. How many times a day do you need to brush your teeth? At least once. Hopefully, twice if you're good. Three if you're like some cool teeth person.
You don't get to just go brush your teeth once and have a dentist visit. You're done. Go see them every six months. You need to do the daily thing.
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You know? So yeah. I totally I totally agree with you about, kind of maintaining a practice where you are where you, you know, have meditation time, that you have time of stillness, where you are grounding. Cause that's just part of being energetically, mentally, emotionally healthy. Yeah. However, that being said, two things. One is, when I work with someone and we clear an event, that event is cleared. I mean, that they they can come back to it later and there is no charge. There is no Cool. Nothing, no there there. However, I also kind of have this image of, it's almost like, you know, the Leaning Tower Of Pisa. How it kinda goes in a circle and you go up and you come back around to the same issues of mother or father or health or whatever. But you're in a different place in relationship to it. You know, you're kind of continuing to evolve and grow. You're not in the same place that you started out. So to your point about, there might still be a little seed there, but there's not the same level of trauma, of you know, that it's running you. That pattern is running you anymore. There might be a little residue.
But usually, when I'm working with clients and we're really dealing with one thing, the whole thing is just clear. Yeah. And so, they come out the other side really a different human being not because, I call it success through subtraction because we're not, like, making them better. We're just taking away the stuff that's in the way of them really being the full essence of who they are being fully expressed easily, comfortably, joyfully. Right? It's the it's the stuff that's, you know, that's muddying the window, if you will. No. I I totally I I feel that. I know when I was going through
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I mean, I've had a couple dark nights of the soul, but, like, the biggest one that I had was almost nine years ago, eight and a half years ago. And, you know, and I was just, like, excessive drinking and just numbing and escape everything that I could do to, like, not feel my feelings, you know, and didn't know that I had sexual trauma from my childhood. All sorts of stuff was repressed. Right? But, like, I literally felt like there was, this giant heavy wet sleeping bag blanket over me. Yeah. You know? And I was just like, I know that I'm in here somewhere. Right. You know? And this thing, whatever this thing is, this narrative, the story, this, you know, me needing to clear this energy was, like, it was suffocating myself. Absolutely. You know? And so it just was one of those things, like, I need to look and see what the heck that thing is. Right. And because you know, like, this is where I you know, when I work with people too and it's just like nothing can eliminate your light.
Your light is always, like, a % there. It might have things that come on top of it. A really a really big bushel sitting on top of it, you know, keeping it all. Yeah. Totally. But it's always there. There's nothing that will extinguish that light. And so when we can remember that we are God's light, God's light, in a you know, I usually I call us I call us God's sparks. We're just God's sparks in in physical form. Right? You know? Hey. Oh, sorry. Angel's like, yeah. God's sparks. Let's go.
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But
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Aw. Aw. When because because, you know, when you get into that dark night of the soul Yeah. It's dark as fuck, and you're just like, well, let's just get out of here. This is done. I'm done. You know? And I tried to escape planet a couple times in my life. You know? And and it's okay. You know? And I'm here. Thank God. You know? But God was just like, no. You're not going anywhere. Shut up. Like You have to be here. You are supposed to be here for this. You have been You've got a mission, and you're supposed to go do the thing that you're blessed with with your skills and treasure and talent and all the things that you're you know, that I gave you, God says. And I was like, okay. And, but it's like, we do want to escape.
You know? There's that tendency as a human. So whether it's through food, whether it's through social media, whether it's You don't wanna feel pain.
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Nobody wants to feel pain. No. It's like Yeah. That's part of the human experience of
[00:32:09] Unknown:
wanting joy and avoiding, you know, avoiding pushing back on pain. Exactly. I go to pleasure and I avoid pain. Period. End of story. That's, like, the human thing. Right. Right? And so it's just kind of like, well, you know, growth lies within the middle, you know. And, like, the only way we're gonna grow like, you think about muscles. Right? You go to the gym.
[00:32:28] Unknown:
It's like your recovery is after you've done the hard work. Yeah. You know? And it's kind of like that, oh. And the only and the only way to the other side is through. It's a little bit like childbirth. It's like, you know, you can't get out of the womb without going through that birth canal. You know? And so a lot of times, if you have trauma, and I've experienced trauma, you know, myself when I was younger, and the the only way you can't you can't do the spiritual bypass. So I'm just gonna think positive, wonderful things. I'm just gonna sit on the cushion. And, like, you know, that doesn't work because that's all still sitting there beneath the water line. It's and that's what's running you. That's what's running your patterns. Right? And so, the only way to the other side of that is through.
And I say to people now, you know, it used to be that, you know, you would do various therapies for years and maybe you would see a little shift and change. But I tell people now, it doesn't have to be hard, and it doesn't have to take a long time. Not anymore to be able to to experience massive palpable shifts freeing you up to be the fullest creative expression of who you are in your life. It doesn't have to be hard or take a long time anymore.
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It doesn't. And and it can be, you know, and so for me, you know, I created this 11 x love method, because I had done, you know, all sorts of personal growth stuff and business growth stuff and spiritual things and, you know, 12 steps and everything. And it was just like, there's too many parts and pieces that don't talk to each other, and there's a lot of shame around it. And I was like, uh-uh. I'm not interested in doing any kind of programs that I'm not excited to wear a t shirt about. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, because, like, I started doing 12 steps, you know, eight, nine years ago. And I love the program because it's it a program and you do these steps and there's this formula. However, two things that it didn't work for me. One was, like, you have to label yourself as, hi. My name is Valerie. I'm a sex addict or I'm an alcoholic or a coke addict or whatever the heck it is. So first of all, the second that you say that, your subconscious says, oh, okay. That's what you are. You're broken, you're diseased, you're fucked up, and you're never gonna get better. You're cementing that in. That label is cement labels, diagnosis, and all these I'm interrupting you, but all these diagnoses of ADHD and autistic kids and it's like all these diagnoses of this is what you are. It's like, yeah. No. It's bullshit.
It's bullshit. It's bullshit, and it's bullshit because, you know, first of all, my only identity is a child of God. That's it. That's that's the core that's the core identity of any of us. That's it. And and so when we can remember that as individuals, we can remember that we're always 20 fourseven supported. We're loved. We are not judged. We are We are not alone. We're not alone. Yeah. We're not alone. You know? And and so to me, that that whole thing was just so,
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like, ugh. I don't I'm not into the label thing. You know? I totally agree. And I think it just reinforces it. It just, you know, concretizes it. Totally. It doesn't doesn't you know, bless their hearts for the 12 step programs. I you know, I think they're they're great. There are a lot of great starting places, and then a lot of times people will graduate to other things that, you know,
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are more effective for them. You know? And and you just said the word graduate, and that was something that I was you know, when I was in these programs, I was like, well, when do we ever get to graduate so that we're, like, healed and now we can go help other people? And they're like
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No. No. Forget it. You have to do this for the rest of your life. No. No. You're here in, like, purgatory forever. And Right. Just like, And I remember
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I remember, like, because you have to, like I think it was, like, you have to have, like, twelve months of sobriety or whatever it was, and and then you can start leading the meetings and, you know, be the cheerleader. And so I was like, yay. Look at me. And so, of course, what does DJ Val do? She brings in some fucking good music. And I'm like, yay. We're gonna have our, like, women's group, and I'm gonna play this song called Eve, and it's awesome, and we're gonna do this. These women looked at me like I had an octopus growing outside of my left ear and that I was, like,
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octopus growing outside of my left ear and that I was, like, the villain of all villains. You were going outside that little box that they had created, and you're not allowed to go outside that box. And and they were just
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like, what are you doing? And I'm like, well, I'm trying to raise the vibe. You know? Like, let's let's get excited. And this meeting, we're gonna talk about our future instead of constantly, you know, harping on what happened in the past. Like, let's start building our dreams. And they just were just like, you know, you're not you're not allowed to do that. And in that moment in time, I was just like, okay. These I'm not done. Here. I'm I'm graduated.
[00:37:01] Unknown:
Yes. I'm I'm grad I'm graduating myself. I'm graduating myself. And this is, you know, like, when I when I look at just the the journey of all the different, healing modalities, you know, that I've gone through. Again, it you know, even over the last, what, you know, twenty twenty, thirty years, it's been the same kind of thing of going from neurolinguistic programming, Reiki, getting my Reiki master, traditional oriental medicine, ohashiatsu, somato emotional release, heart based therapy, craniosacral therapy, chakras, you know, eight month chakra systems, body talk energy medicine, energy psychology. I mean, you know, all of these different things and they all kind of have woven together. Yeah. And, you know, and are now in my toolbox, you know, when I help people. But it's again, you know, it's like, I remember being in a in a shiatsu class. And of course, you know, with shiatsu you have to you have to understand their, energetic meridians pathways in the body. Mhmm. And I'm sitting with a a TA beside me and she's looking across the room and someone's practicing on someone. And she said, they're not on heart meridian. They're on, you know, gallbladder. I'm like, how can you see that? How can you from across the room, how can you see that they're not on the right she said, oh, I can just see the energy fields. And I'm like, cool. I had no idea how you could do that. And then a year later, I could do it. Right? So it's like, we all have these capabilities that are kind of trained out of us when we're when we're young. Let's talk about the telepathy tapes because it used to so fun.
[00:38:26] Unknown:
And, like, recently because I saw that you had that post in the beginning of the year, and then just recently, someone was talking about telepathy tapes. So, let's let everybody what are the telepathy tapes, and let's talk about what because that to me is obviously, you know, just super indicative of this energy field in these going. Yeah. Exactly. And where we're where we're headed. Did you listen to the whole series, the 10? Not yet. And so it's just something that, like, it literally has been showing up in the last, I don't know, say, four days. It's showing and you can't know saw yours, and I was like, holy cow. Okay. We gotta talk about this. I do know that, the, I don't know which how do you explain this, but the number of people that have watched that, you know, like, in terms of it it she surpassed Joe Rogan,
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sometime in December. That series surpassed Joe Rogan. I'm like, woah. This is hitting mainstream. This is so cool. Yeah. So this is a young woman who's a journalist and then I think a a filmmaker. Might have that wrong. And she, started hearing about these, young nonverbal autistic kids who, they have spelling boards so they can, you know, communicate via, you know, physiological through their hand spelling, but they don't have the capacity to be verbal. And she was hearing these stories and started investigating this and found a researcher who was investigating these stories about how these kids were communicating with each other, autistic kid to autistic kid, through time and space. They're not local.
And they would, they would communicate through telepathy with each other and also with their parents and also with their teachers. And so this researcher started doing, you know, really looking into this, interviewing these kids, giving them tests, you know, double blind tests. And they were just spot on. So it's kinda like, we tend to, we generally, our culture has tended to think of autistic kids as diminished less than but they are actually highly evolved beings who just happen to be in a physical body that's not allowing them to communicate in the same way. And their frequencies are so much higher than ours, it's really hard for them to kind of dial that down, you know, to be able to communicate in the same way.
But what she was doing as as she went through these, this investigation that she was, doing with these teachers and parents and researchers and these kids was she was realizing that material science as we know it really does not answer these questions. And you have to kinda move into the quantum side. Yeah. And the non material, you know, consciousness side to understand what's happening here and that these interactions were validating. Yes, we are, you know, bioelectrical, conscious beings able to communicate without words, not having to be, you know, co located.
And we're and they have the kids were, they have this meeting place called The Hill where all these different autistic kids will meet in astral planes, whatever you wanna call it, non physical space. And they have interactions. They've got best friends, you know, in that space. And it's just, and it's heartwarming and it's wild and it's blowing people's minds about, you know, we think of our little three d selves as the five senses. That's it. And it's like, that is so not it. And I, again, as I was listening to these episodes, I'm like, it was just, I was so glad I was hitting the mainstream because these are the energies I've been working with for, you know, thirty years about being able to channel and being able to pull in, you know, nonphysical resources or being able to communicate with people at that level.
So I'm really, really thrilled that it's hitting the mainstream and it's it's indicative of the shift that we are in, the larger global shift that we are in right now.
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I I love this, and and I can't wait to, like, listen to all of these. And I saw that she was doing, like, a fundraiser to try to get, like, the real full length movie Right. Documentary together Yeah. Yeah. Which, you know, as Bitcoiners, it's like, let's get her a geyser fund, you know, and, like, help let's support her because, I I look at all of us. Right? And I've I've always said this, and this is before I I learned about the telepathy tapes, but I think about, remember, you know, you and I are similar. Like, in the old days, when you had a radio, you had to dial You had to dial it. To dial. And then as if you moved it too fast, all you heard was static. Static. Right? Static and then tuned in and then static.
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Totally.
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Tune it in. Yeah. Yep. And so it's like this, how do you fine tune your own transmitter and receiver, which is Yes. We transmit energy and and communication. We receive energy and communication. And so I think about these folks who I would imagine maybe have, like, their their receivers are so wide and there's too much information coming in and that's why they're just like
[00:43:17] Unknown:
And some yeah. Sometimes they don't have the capacity to, you know, to have a a really good helpful porous membrane that's shutting down. But there are there are particular tools, sacred geometry, octahedrons, you know, spinning various sacred geometry things that can help, delineate your personal energy field and and kind of make a really healthy energetic boundary, not to keep things out, but just kind of to demarcate this is where I end and someone else begins. So there are lots of tools that are available. It's so important. It's so interesting that you just mentioned that because I started doing some hypnotherapy
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in, September of last year, just going through a breakup, you know, just dealing with some personal stuff. Right? And, one of the things the girl was, you know, doing at the end, we were doing some energy clearing and cutting cords and all this stuff. And she was just like, oh, Valerie's in this crystal thing and blah, blah, blah. And I was just like, alright. Let's play with that for a little bit. Yeah. And so I started meditating and being in this, this, like, crystal diamond thing, you know? And it was just and she was like, well, it's not supposed to just completely cut you off. I'm like, no. It's got I'm I'm in charge of what goes in and out of it. Yeah. But when I say activate, it allows me to not let someone else's energy and vibration and their field come into mind. And so if it does start to kinda do that, I have the opportunity and I started playing this little, you know, and I do visuals and whatever, writing and coloring and all that. And I'm like, well, if something does happen to get into the barrier, what do I do with it? And so I'm like, I'm gonna sparkle poof it. And so I, like, turned it into this sparkle energy. Yep. And then I'm just like, I love you. Goodbye. You're not allowed here. And then I, like, turn it into, like, glitter and then I make it go up and out through this, like Yeah. Almost like a chimney.
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Perfect. Perfect. I love that. I love that. That is just great. And there are very all sorts of tools that are very much like that, but I love that you're creating your own. And anything having to do with sparkles, I'm, like, on board for it. You know, it's like, that's great.
[00:45:24] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, and it's interesting too because, you know and and just whatever. I'll just share a tiny bit, but, like, this hypnotherapy that I did and there's all sorts of ways that hypnotherapy works, obviously. You know, different people have their own practices and how how they get to those, to the subconscious state. But, you know, one of the things that I love and it's like you're going into these rooms, you know, if you go to the left, which is your past, you know, and the right is your future, you're going into these rooms and you're kind of re experiencing like, Ugh, I got abused by my mom's boyfriend or by my uncle or whoever, you know? And it's kind of like, Okay, the adult Val gets to come in and be the protector while the little girl who had that experience is there. So it's like Yeah. What would you do if the adult Val was actually there? So we get to kinda, like, role play and everything. And always, like, when I'm, like, wiping the screen and doing this kind of clearing, you know, yeah, I wanna chop those motherfuckers up and, you know, kill them, but I also know that there's little boys inside of these men who did these things to me when I was a girl. And so, so I have this love for them.
Like, I have this deep love for them as boys who got hurt somehow that they thought it was okay to go hurt other people. They were wounded too. So so there's, like, this double, warrior sword. Like, let's chop them up, but then I chop them up and I turn them into glitter. You know? And I turn them into something beautiful and sparkly because it's like something happened to you. So while I'm healing, I'm also gonna help you heal too. And you're transmuting the energy for yourself and for them. That's really beautiful. And it's like and it's like because some people just wanna do this, like, I wanna sorry. That's okay.
Some people wanna just express that anger, but I'm like, let's take it a step further. Because if we are truly light workers, if we were truly here as god's servants for spreading love,
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like, what better way to do that than to love the people who hurt us? Yeah. And it's a lot of times at the beginning, we can't get there. But, you know, a lot times when I'm working with people, we will work through layers and layers and layers of things. It might be, you know, grief and hurt and pain and then it might be anger that you know, and once we kinda clear each layer, then we get down to a place where there's no, you know, and allowing the anger and like stab stab, you know, I wanna kill them to absolutely be there. Totally. But once you once you clear that out, what's underneath is usually either compassion or humor. It's compassion. Yes. You know, it depends on sometimes they'll look at the event and they're just like, that was ridiculous. I can't believe that even happened. Or there's compassion for that person who was wounded and and broken and, you know, in their own life and it wasn't about them. It was, you know, about the other person. So when you clear out all that stuff layer by layer, you can get to that place where it's an authentic compassion. It's not trying to put on, I'm trying to think of them as as, you know, wonderful little boys or whatever, but it's authentic. It's really it's really, you know, coming from their truth.
[00:48:28] Unknown:
Yeah. And and and that's, I think, so let's can we talk about plant medicine a little bit? Sure. Okay. So plant medicine is, like, where you know, I did Ibogaine. It was, like, almost five years ago. It was my five year big, like, dose anniversary, in on the solstice, actually, right when COVID was happening. Wow. So I had, you know, co ray balls. Right? And so I'm like, you know, after the whole shit show happened almost nine years ago, sober, didn't date anybody, totally whatever, ended up relapsing, just drinking like a sailor again. And, lots of trauma was coming up and all these things. And, you know, my girlfriend's like, come down to Mexico. There's an Ibogaine clinic literally at the end of my my block. And I was just like, okay. And I thought Ibogaine was just for, people who had, like, opioids. Addictions. Addictions. Yeah.
The woman who was, like, an ex heroin addict, now she's probably 80, because she was, like, set in her mid seventies at the time. She was just, like, this cool shaman lady, you know, and just, like, super fun and moving, dancing, beautiful, just, I love you, Chantal. And, you know, so I go in and I do this experience, you know, and the one of the, you know, you're going in. I don't know. I mean, Ibogaine is, like, the most intense psychedelic ever. I've done almost I haven't done Ayahuasca, but I've done DMT. I've done mushrooms. I've done fuck tons of acid. And, like, Ibogaine was just like, it's the grandfather of transformation.
And somehow, it gets into your brain and and rewires stuff. It really truly does, you know, because I was asking I was like, take away the cravings, take away my my, like, stabbing energy toward my uncle, you know, and all of this stuff. And so one of like, you go through all these portals and you're literally it's like 10,000,000,000,000 faces and weird things coming at you all at the same time, and it's like and you're just like, oh my god. And I remember Chantal, she's like, if it ever gets too intense, just open your eyes, and it's like changing the channel on a TV station. So she's like, don't worry. You're not, like, trapped in these, you know, portals, you know. So I was like, okay. But she's like, go into it and feel it. Go for it. Yeah. Be afraid. Like, get there. That's why you're doing this medicine. Right. So I was like, okay. And I remember, you know, so I had several portals that I got dropped into, but one of the portals was a sandbox, like a a playground sand, you know, thing. And it was, like, it was my uncle.
It was, my ex husband, it was two boys who raped me when I was 13, and it was a guy who raped me when I was 28.
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And so
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I had these men, but they were all four year olds. Four year olds. And so I was also a four year old girl. And so somehow, all of our innocence got to hang out together and play in the sandbox. How was that for you? Even all of the, you know, the cogni the CBT, the cognitive behavioral therapy, and all the stuff that I was doing, was okay. But, like, it was not until I could literally be embodied in a sandbox Yep. With these boys. Yeah. Not their men self, but these boys were and and my dad too. My dad was there, and, and it was just like you're and and, of course, the mother in me is like, oh, you're just like little boys.
[00:52:12] Unknown:
Yeah. That's where they started out. I mean, we didn't none of us come in, you know, with these horrible, you know, trauma patterns. They're they're imprints. They're overlays. Yeah. They're on vents.
[00:52:22] Unknown:
Yeah. And so that was just such a trippy experience. And it was like and I meditate and pray on it almost every single day because it's still that, like, I know that they're I mean, and I'm starting to work with an orphanage down in El Salvador called the House of Life. And they're helping girls who've been raped, who've been trafficked, who've been abused, and now guess what? They're pregnant. And so now they have to carry their abusers' children. And because they're Catholic, they're like, well, we're not getting an abortion. You know? Like, how do we become moms? And these girls are, you know, 14, 15, 16 year old. They're kids. You know? And so how can we use our own trauma to support, other people on their journey of things that have happened? Because it's like, that's not who you are. That's an experience that happened, but it doesn't define your future.
Doesn't mean that's how you have to identify. You know. Like, you're a fucking survivor, you know. And and you can survive with love and compassion. So I don't know.
[00:53:26] Unknown:
I'm just babbling on. No. Thank you for sharing that because you're, you know, you're really raising that point of we don't have to carry that, you know, forward in our lives. It can be cleared. You know, we can have a much clearer, more joyful life moving forward if those events are cleared, you know, from us. And there are different ways to clear it. You know, the Ibogaine sandbox or, you know, hypnotherapy. It's there are many, many different tools. Yeah. Cognitive behavioral is is a little bit less effective because it's more just talking, talking. And, you know, you're at the you're at the conscious thinking mind level, which doesn't get to, as I said before, where it really resides.
[00:54:00] Unknown:
Yeah. So yeah. What do you say to people? Because, like, I've got I have two people in my life who have, in my opinion, been, hijacked by their therapists. And hijacked meaning they're they're,
[00:54:17] Unknown:
They're in a codependent relationship with their therapist?
[00:54:20] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean, but yes. And I don't know how do I say this the right way. Like like you said, like, there's you can clear things. You don't have to keep going back and digging it up and scratching a scab and opening it up once a week and then talking about it and and then nothing fucking happens, but they keep getting checks. Like, the therapist keep getting paid. You know? And I'm just like, that's such a scam. You know? And it just
[00:54:49] Unknown:
I feel like and I'm the last person who's gonna be like, you're being scammed. You know? Because, like, they think that they're getting helped. But they're truly, like, if you look at, like, 12 ago, nothing has changed. Nothing. This is a little bit like, you know, when you're trying to explain Bitcoin to, you know, to a fiat person. Right? Yeah. And they don't realize that they are in the midst of a scam. They don't realize it. They can't see it because they're in it. It's the fish and water. Like, you know, you're in the ocean. What's the ocean? You know, it's like What's wet? Yeah. Yeah. What's wet? Exactly. So, you know, all you can do is kind of start to plant seeds of their other options, their other opportunities, or maybe telling a story about how someone was able to clear something quickly and easily and have them go, that's really possible? How come I'm not experiencing this? So just planting seeds, just like with Bitcoin. We have to kinda plant seeds. We can't, you know, it's like the horse to water. You can't force them to drink. It's like planting seeds, nurturing those seeds, dropping little things in.
And if it's I've gotten to this point where I go, if it's on their life path to find that seed, great. If it's not, that's their path. You know, maybe that's one of their things is to stay stuck and not, you know, and not experience a shift for them. So I've had Yeah. I have much less, you know, judgment these days or impulse or comp compulsion to Yeah. You know, have things be different for them. Yeah. Maybe that's that's the path they need to do this lifetime or for some period of time until they wake up.
[00:56:14] Unknown:
Who am I to say? Right? Exactly. Yeah. And and and that's such exactly, like, nailed like, one of my teachers, he was like, who are you to interfere with someone else's spiritual curriculum? There you go. Exactly. Like, if you can, like, throw a little nugget here on the buffet, and if they choose to take it, great. But, like Great. It doesn't matter if it's your life partner, your kid, your parent, your best friend. Like, all you're supposed to do is go be the best version of you that you, you know, are able to do. Absolutely. And if there might be a little nugget to throw on that little buffet table, great. But don't don't be bummed if they don't pick up your nugget. You know? And that's like with the Bitcoin. Right? And so what's it been like for you to say. Like, as a Bitcoiner, obviously, and a spiritual woman and a a technologist and a financial woman? Like, you're, like, you're a renaissance lady.
[00:57:05] Unknown:
It's one of those things where I know. I have what I call a bridge brain because I have, like, all the right intuitive, you know, grokking things and intuitive, then all the the left linear logical engineering, you know, science tech, whatever. And it's like they go back and forth and I have this capacity to really, make connections between really disparate seemingly very separate points. Oh, that's connected to this and that's connected, you know, so that's the way my brain works. But there was one other thing that I wanted to mention before we moved on to that and that was Okay. There's this analogy that I use of being a lighthouse. You know, when you were talking about being light beings and we're just here, you know, to spread our light. So just to be a, lighthouses don't run around the island looking for ships to save. Right? They just stand there and put the light out. And if someone, you know, needs to tractor beam in on one of their, you know, their lights for their, for their welfare, for their highest, they will. And someone else won't need it and someone else won't even see it. But it's just our job to be light beings and just be the clearest, you know, brightest God sparks that we can be.
And just put that light out there. And if someone needs it, they'll see it. They'll resonate with it. It'll, you know, elevate them. That's our role.
[00:58:15] Unknown:
I love that. And I think too about Bitcoin. Like, Bitcoin is like a lighthouse. It's just doing its thing. Like, you look at, like, you know, if and and I'm a sailor, and I love lighthouses. I grew up sailing. It's the same same. Yeah. High five. Right? I know. Ugh. The water and the ocean. Mama ocean. I know it's so weird. You and I both live inland right now. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna say where we both live. I mean Yep. Most people know I live in Colorado. But I grew up grew up sailing all over the place. So yeah. Best. Right? And and, like, sailing definite so we'll talk about lighthouse super quick because I wanted to say that. A light you know, typically, a lighthouse will have its pattern. Right? And if it's like a thing, it's like every, whatever, fourteen seconds, there's a rotation kind of thing. And same with Bitcoin. Every ten minutes, there's a block. You know?
Nobody's going, I need to go tell everybody about the lighthouse. You know? It's just doing its thing. And so I love that analogy. So Bitcoin has a lighthouse. Do you know the, gosh. What's his name? Sato sailor. He's a sailor and he lives on a sailboat and he goes all over and he's over in Europe, so he's always doing all these Europe, sailing routes. But, he lives on his boat and he brings people aboard and they just hang out with him and he orange pills them. I love that. That's so great. Definitely. Like, what what an amazing life. You know? And I'm sort of like, well, do I really need to live in a house? What if I, like, sold my house and bought a catamaran and then I just, like, had, like because I used to teach sailing. I lived aboard a boat. I got my US coast guard captain's license, and I used to, like I was a hardcore sailor. And I was like, what if we brought people aboard, you know, and did these, like, personal growth slash Bitcoin experiences, you know, and, like, traveled all over The Caribbean and had some fun. And That could be an amazing, amazing path for you, you know. For us. Like, you're a sailor. Next the next adventure.
[01:00:09] Unknown:
No. I'm like, I'm supposed to be in the mount. I love being in the mount. I mean, you know, I grew up sailing and and grew up sailing with my parents and we had boats and, you know, up and down the East Coast and they took they they put their boat in a cradle and took it over to Europe and did it around, you know, The UK and down through the canals and Mediterranean stuff. Wow. I have a picture of me on the on the you know how you have it, you know, step a mast which means to kinda take the mast down and make it flat. Right? And there's a picture of me sitting, straddling the mast with the Eiffel Tower in the back because I'm, we're in, on the Seine going down the path to go across to, you know, Lymington in The UK. So I've had all sorts of amazing experiences. But that's not my that's not my thing now. I'm like, I need to be in the mountains. They just feed me. So yeah. But I could totally see it being a a next chapter for you. Oh my goodness.
[01:00:52] Unknown:
I know. I I really do. And, I mean, and you know how this goes. Right? What it doesn't matter where you go. But the minute you jump on a plane or you commit to a road trip and you're committing to this, like, new environment, like, something happens up here and here. Yeah. You know? And even if you're sort of feeling like a stuck, and you're you're in a stuck position, you know, whether it's with your relationship or your business or health or anything, like, the minute that you just commit to going, like, I'm gonna go do something different and physically be in a different location. For some reason, it's being on a sailboat because, you know, depending on where you're at. Obviously, if you're on the ocean, you're looking at this infinite horizon.
You're looking at infinity.
[01:01:39] Unknown:
Mhmm. And
[01:01:40] Unknown:
you don't even know what the heck is going on underneath.
[01:01:44] Unknown:
Right? That yeah. That can be terrifying. Right? I still have, like, sea monster. It's like
[01:01:50] Unknown:
But it's, like, such a cool thing because it, like, makes your mind, it forces it to push past its limitation. And it forces it to push past its stuckness because you're just like, oh my gosh. Like, if I were to jump overboard with a little mask, like, what the heck am I gonna see? And, oh, if it's nighttime, am I gonna see some glowing stuff? Or Plankton. Glowing plankton. Whoo. Totally. Right? You know? And then it's just like so I feel like the more that we, nudge ourselves into being in different situations, it's gonna completely continue to make our minds Play Doh and stretchable and and expandable with solutions and possibilities and ways to build the new world that we all want. You know? And so a lot of people are like, and I have this thing up here where is it?
Life is short by the tickets. And, you know, as a Take the
[01:02:46] Unknown:
adventure. Take the trip. Do it. Can I offer a slightly different perspective? Yeah. Totally agree with you. Go. Go. Yeah. I think that that, you know, our higher level soul consciousness that's always there and available for us gives us little nudges, gives us little nudges in different directions. And it's so important to pay attention to those little nudges, those little, you know, intuitive hits and follow-up on them. Because it's, it's, it's, when we do that, we are led in such amazing places. Synchronicities happen. I call it red carpeting where the red carpet just gets rolled out because it's like, yes, you're supposed to go in that direction. Yes, you're supposed to. That's, you know, at the soul level, that's kind of part of your destiny path if you will.
So it's not kind of constructing it from the left brain part, but just like really following and trusting those little intuitive hits, those little nudges. You know, it's like when I decided to move from the East Coast to California, I was going through a divorce at the time and I had to kind of close down my my practice. I moved to a little town in Northern California. Fortunately it was in the wine country. It was beautiful. Didn't know, didn't know a soul. But, but when I pulled into that town, you know, when I was looking at various places to live, I got this really strong intuitive hit of you are your home, like a little vibration, your home, you know? Yeah. I was like, got it. And I just, you know, I was on a motorcycle at the time, just parked the bike and waited for the real estate office to open, went home, packed everything. But like that journey, I was so supported by spirit. I mean, the perfect mover arrived, the perfect packers.
I was looking for, you know, a house out in the country and I couldn't find one, couldn't find one, couldn't find one. And then this apartment right on the Central Plaza in the center of town, which never happens, there's only one, and it was available and I got it. Catty corner across the street, I found an office and the universe said, you don't wanna be out there. You wanna be smack in the center of town. You don't know a soul. You know, this is gonna put you in the middle of things and I ended up meeting all these people. Six months later, I found my ideal house, kept the apartment while I renovated the house. I mean, it's like red carpeting. It just kind of, everything was so easy about that move. So when we follow those little intuitive hits, we're so well supported and that's the way that, you know, soul, spirit, nonconscious communicates with us. And we have to kind of be paying attention to those little nudges and not discounting them. We so often just go, yeah, yeah, whatever. You know, when we get a little impulse to go do something, check something out. I mean, another example of that was like a month after I moved there, I'm in a bookstore and I'm getting a book for a friend of mine. It's, you know, and I know what book I want. So I go to the bookstore shelf, Barnes and Noble, and I pull up this book and the book next to it is stuck to it and it falls in my hands with the other book. And I look at it and I went undefended love. Woah, what is this? And that book ended up being transformative for the next decade of my life. I ended up working with the authors. I ended up doing group therapy with them. I ended up, you know, it was like, it was one of those things where the universe went here literally landed in my lap. I know. I know. And it was just like, it was hugely true and I wasn't looking for it, but they're like, we can help you with this. So all of those little things that happened to us, those little intuitive hits, those little nudges, those little I could have just said, oh, whatever. And just stuck it back on by the shop. I went, Totally. What's this? And I I threw it and bought it and went home and read it. And it was incredible. It's one of the best books I've ever read. And it's called Undefended Love. I haven't heard this.
Undefended Love. Jet Sarris and Marlena Lyons, two therapists. And oh, by the way, I was, you know, like in the wine country, just above San Francisco. They lived in Oakland. So, you know, I ended up doing, you know, individual therapy, group therapy, all sorts of programs with them. They ended up becoming, you know, really close with them over the next decade. But I didn't ignore it. You know, it's like so that book is very slender, but it's very meaty. It's very meaty. There's, like, something on every single page. Highly recommended to anybody. That's great. Defended love. I love this. Undefended love. And I think for for folks who are listening, obviously, again, you and I are,
[01:06:49] Unknown:
in the older generation. Right? So I love this, and I love being, I love being a wisdom keeper. Experienced. Being experienced. Being able to share that wisdom. Exactly. And and I know for me personally, like, as a younger woman and even, you know, I would say in the last decade, I've had some imposter syndrome of, like, well, who am I to go out there and talk about this stuff? And who am I? And who am I? Blah blah blah. You know, obviously, there's old, programs. Right? But, like, I think, yay, Lauren. Yay. Hi, Lauren. We're gonna all be together next Tuesday. Hi, Lauren.
I love Lauren so much. I'm so glad what he's doing with Yeah. He's great. My day. He's great. Such a stud. Right? But but I think of of, like, for all of us. Right? And so it's kind of like, well, how do we trust? And I ask this to people a lot, you know? And so this is the thing, like with you, with your inner voice, and you've got these nudges, right, in the red carpet. A lot of us get I mean, we are nonstop, right? We're the receivers and the transmitters, like we were saying with the radio stations, right? Yeah. So we're constantly getting information from God, from our guides, from the guardians, from the angels, from the cosmos, from the quantum field. You know?
How do you determine what's worthy of listening to and what's not?
[01:08:12] Unknown:
That's a really good question. And, you know, part of it is, couple of things. One is when you get those nudges, usually, there's some kind of, physiological palpable sensation that makes it feel like a yes versus a no. Like a yes, a yes. And you, you know, I always sometimes I will teach people, kinesiology or even just using like a pendulum, you know, as a way to to tune into the yeses and noes in your physiology. After a while, you don't need it. You can just feel what a yes or a no is. Yeah. And so when you get a yes to act on it. And the more you act on it, the clearer the yeses get. The clearer the nooshes get. Yeah. Versus the like, is that really that doesn't really feel I don't know about that. But the yeses get clearer and clearer. Can I can I tell you another story? Please. Yeah. About this is about an stories like Okay. I have all the time in the world too. So just like so you may I'm as long as you're okay, like I'm good. Keep going as long as you like. So yeah. So intuitive hits. I mean, this is one of the things that I work with with people is really developing their intuition and strengthening that so that they can depend on it. So they really feel those, those intuitive hits and they feel the yeses and it's very important to act on them because if you act on it, it kinda opens up the channel over time and you get a clearer and clearer downloads and clearer and clearer hits on things.
So, like I mentioned I ride motorcycles and I was riding from my town over to another town in in Napa for lunch and parked the bike. And I was kind of at the end of a block, you know, at a corner And I was the last parking place there. Got off the bike, took my helmet off. I'm going into this lovely little cafe for lunch. And I get this hit of like, something just doesn't feel right. I don't like I don't where it is doesn't feel good. I'm I'm like, oh, this is such a pain in the butt to put everything back on and move the bike. I don't really wanna do this. I'm like, yeah, I have to. And so I got on the bike and moved to like four spaces further.
So there were like three cars behind me. Halfway through lunch, I hear this huge screech and this, and I hear this massive crash and this old beat up station wagon had hit the car that had parked where my bike had been, hit that car and moved it forward, hit that car and moved it forward, and the beautiful black BMW that was like right behind me came with being about that far of the tail end of my bike. So it was like, you know, it was one of those, thank you, you know, it was one of those thank you, but I could have not I could have discounted. I said, there's a pain in the butt, I don't wanna put anything back on, you know, blah blah. But I didn't. And so the more I trust, the more I hit the more I say yes to those things, the more I take action when I get those nudges, the clearer they are. And that is true for anyone. You have to kind of, act on them, and then the signals get clearer.
[01:10:59] Unknown:
They do. And I love that because we think of as Bitcoiners, you know, proof of work, you know, and, like, showing up and doing the thing and not just lip servicing the stuff. Right.
[01:11:09] Unknown:
Taking action. Taking action.
[01:11:11] Unknown:
Yeah. You have to take the action. I know something was really weird for me that happened. I mean, it's not weird. It's just like, whatever. Like, after my divorce and, like, I was coming out of rehab, you know, eight and a half years ago ish. And, you know and basically, they were like, don't go back to the house that is causing all this torment for you. And I was just like, I'm a mom. I can't leave my kids. And I felt guilty. And I was like, it cost all this money. So I'm gonna, of course, go back home and try to deal with my kids, and then we'll do our separation and do the separate stuff. Right? And everyone was like, don't do that. And I'm like, no. I have to do that. So, anyway, did that, of course, caused a giant shit show. That was a bad move. Bad move, Val.
But I didn't know at the time, you know, because this guy had never been through anything like this. And I was, of course, like, overcome with shame and guilt and feeling like an awful mom and an awful wife, you know. And, so I was like, I'm gonna go back, and it's gonna be okay and da da da da. But, like, but in the meantime, you know, I was, like, looking for a a house or a rental or something so that like instead of having to go do these other things, it was like, I'm just going to do the separation and go find this place. I wrote down everything I wanted.
I was like, I wanna see horses. I need three bedrooms so that my kids each have a room. I want an art room and I want, you know, my art and meditation area and I want it to be, you know, this many dollars and this many minutes away from the school and then everything. And so, it's like, you know, a month goes by and I'm just, like, literally 10 times a day looking at, you know, Craigslist and Facebook and all this stuff, trying to figure out how the heck how the heck I'm gonna buy you know, not buy, but rent a place. So this morning, this I get, like and I was subscribed to this email list that was, you know, a daily, reading kind of thing, you know, and this girl would, you know, show a card or whatever.
And so the daily reading for this morning was seven mermaids. And I'm like, okay. I love mermaids. I'm an ocean girl, you know. And it was like seven mermaids, blah blah blah, dancing and doing the thing. And I'm great. And so, you know, whatever that afternoon, I'm on my Craigslist, and it shows me the, like, this house, and I'm like, oh, I'm fucking I'm I'm coming right now. Show me, like, your house. Right? Yeah. And I walk around the whole house, and I'm looking, and it's got a little yard. It's got every single thing that I want. It's got an art room. It's sunny. It's bright. It's beautiful. It's in my budget. I go down to the living room.
There are seven tiles above the fireplace of seven mermaids. Mermaids. Of course. Seven. Not four, not three, not a hundred, not one. Seven mermaids. Did you need a did you need a bigger sign than that or was that a better sign? Really like I had a check-in my pocket and the second I saw that, I was like, I'm your tenant. And she was like, well, we need and I'm like, yeah. You do a background check. You do all your things. I'm gonna be fine. I'm gonna be the best tenant you ever had. Here's my money. And and it was just this, like Yep. Holy cow, you know? But it was, like, it was, like, God, you know, because, like, I look at, like, you know, and I have this thing, like, you know, rejection is God's redirection and protection, You know? And it's like when you don't get the thing that you think you want Mhmm. Like, don't get bombed. This this or something better. Got something better for you. This or something better. Right.
[01:14:46] Unknown:
Yeah. Just one of my favorite phrases, this or something better. Totally. This or something better. And And
[01:14:51] Unknown:
it's tough because a lot of times, you know, we're all, we're all challenged with faith. Faith only really shows up when you're in a position where you don't feel faithful, when you feel scared, when you feel nervous, when you feel the rug is getting pulled out from the How are you defining faith? To me, faith is like the ultimate knowing that God's got your back. Okay. You know? And so to me, like, I don't know. That's kinda how I define faith. It's like surrender and trust. Surrender and trust. Surrender and trust. And it's very you know, for for those of us who operate back here in our reptilian brains, we want to control things because it's called survival.
And if you're not in a position of, making sure that the I's are dotted and the T's are crossed and everything's going well, like, that could mean life or death for you, you know? And so, like, when we're in this lower human, which we're supposed to be operating system, when we're in fiat, when we're, like, figuring out money, like, we want to, like, okay, I gotta make sure this is going on and I'm gonna get the client and I got and then you're in this, like, lower vibrational state Yes. Versus being in a higher vibrational state of absolute faith and trust. And it's tough to bridge that. And for you as a bridger, you know, like, how do you help people, get at ease in their nervous systems so that they can still operate as humans with all this physical dimensionality and then still be in a place of faith and trust?
[01:16:38] Unknown:
A couple different things. Good question. One is clearing out the stuff that prevents them from being connected to source.
[01:16:47] Unknown:
Right? Like what what would what would like as an example, like what would be Well, I mean, you were talking about,
[01:16:52] Unknown:
you know, everybody was saying don't go back to the house. Don't and you did. Right? Yeah. But there we have a lot the weight of cultural, imprints and conditioning. And it can be cultural, family, religious, whatever. I have to do this. I'm supposed to do this. I have to go back to the house. The kids, you know, I'm supposed to. All that stuff. The shoulds. Right. The shoulds. Yeah. The shoulds. Right? Versus, you know, following your intuitive hits. So that's, you know, when we clear out a lot of the imprints and the conditioning, we're much more free to feel the connection to source, you know, from whence come these intuitive hits come, come this, I'm not gonna say direction, but nudging, encouragement, suggestions, better word suggestions.
You know, because we have free will, we can do stuff. We can choose not to, you went back to the house, you know. So, when we clear out a lot of the stuff that's in the way, it's much easier. So that's one thing. It's much easier to feel it. And then, of course, as I was referring to before, the more we act on it, the more we practice it, the stronger that communication channel gets. And it's easier to recognize when we're being supported, when we're being guided, when we're being suggested to. Check this out. I mean, when I moved where I am now, I didn't think I was gonna move here for like a year.
And I'm just kind of trolling around on Zillow and, you know, and Craigslist just to see what the neighborhoods were. And I saw this ad on Craigslist and I went, holy shit. If this is what I think this is, this is gonna be checking every single box. Right? Wow. And I got in my van and I, you know, rode 600 miles, you know, to get here and saw it. And as soon as I saw it, I went, this is the place. And it was a good year before I had planned on moving, but the universe is going, no, no, no, no. This is the place and this is the timing and this is when you need to be here. And I and I went back home. And again, it's one of those things where red carpeting, you know, so that's the red carpeting reinforces that you're you're getting an accurate assessment of that nudge. Right? That you're reading that correctly.
Yeah. Because I had driven out in my van with my dog and my brother lives nearby and I'm like, can I leave my van here for a month while I go back? He's like, sure. And I happened to have my dog's travel crate and I happened to have a Delta credit from, you know, a canceled flight during COVID. So I put him in the crate, took a first class flight home, spent a month divesting myself of everything, drove my car and the dog back out and the moving van. But it was like everything just kind of fell into place And the place where I am ticked every single box and then some. You know, the nurse was saying, here's the timing. And it wasn't my timing. It was the universe's timing. That's right. But I had to just say yes to it because everything was saying, yes. This is a yes. This is a yes. I'm like, well, okay. And I'd like, I'd been in California for twenty four years. So I, in four weeks, I eliminated, I garage sales. I, you know, sold stuff. I, all that stuff of when you're moving multi state, right?
It was very I thought my plan was, oh, over the next six months, I'll gradually weed things out. I'll clear out the garage, you know, whatever. Clear out the filing cabinet. No. Four weeks. Boom. Done. Gone. Yeah. It's like so, you know, it's it's partially it's just really acting on that so that you you you have to act on those things. You have to act on it. And the more you do, it does clear out that channel. But it's easier to hear that when you've cleared out some of the the patterns, the conditioning, the the schmutz that you're that's holding, you know, the shmutz. I love it. I love Yiddish. It's like I so the school that I went to, you know, I grew up in Pittsburgh and it was half Jewish. So it's like, you know, I'm not bad for a shiksa, you know, and it's like in all these it's like so it's like I have all these wonderful Yiddish words that I just adore, but Schmutz is a good one. Oh my god. I have I I love that word. I haven't wow. It's just like it's it
[01:20:46] Unknown:
it it it delights me to hear. I've I'm words are my love language, you know? Aw. So anytime there's cool words or affirmation, obviously. So I just love because it is. It's a schmutz. Like, the thing, like It's the schmutz that's in the way and clearing it out.
[01:21:02] Unknown:
Right. And this is this is what I love clearing, you know, clearing out for clients. It's getting rid of all that shit that's in their way so that they're just, like, bright, shiny, you know, light filled beings being out there in the world. Yeah.
[01:21:15] Unknown:
Yeah. And and and that's I think, again, like, you're you're saying is, like, it's not about, like, the addictiveness of, doing coaching and work. It's, like, what's the nature of it. So about sculpturing. Right? We look at Michelangelo and Brecky who is, like, one of my Taking away taking away the extra. We're taking away so that the angel can be revealed. You know? Like Right. The angel is always there, like we just said. You know, the light is always there. It's never not there, but because of conditioning, because of experiences, because of whatever Imprints. Traumatic imprints. All that stuff. Yeah. They get stuck on top of the truth, and the truth of all those light and love. And so, I just think that's like
[01:21:56] Unknown:
such a such an important thing. Let's talk about it. Before we go on, there's so many people think, you know, I have to I have to practice things. I have to, like, have my whole list of, you know, here are all the practices I'm supposed to do and it's very additive. It's very here are all the things I have to do every day to be a good person, you know, to blah, blah, blah. And it's like, it's so, it's really the opposite of that. Yes, there are things we need to do, exercise, good food, blah, blah, blah. But, you know, I know people that have three hour, you know, rituals and regimes in the morning that they have to get through because they've added on so many things into their life. I'm like, damn, is that working for you?
[01:22:31] Unknown:
You know? I know. And it's kinda it's it's like is that, you know, if you look at KPIs or OKRs, it's like is that really is that giving you the result that you're looking for? Right. And a lot of people don't, they don't measure, you know? Because obviously, when you're in the subjective world of spirituality and personal growth, it's kind of like, well, how do I rate my joy or my contentment? And I was just at a women's meetup last night with, like, these women entrepreneurs. And one of the questions you know, and it was really nice because they had all these different tables and you, like, get to meet all these new women. And one of the questions was, like, you know, you know, what do you wanna make sure you do before you die? You know? And the one of the women was like, I just wanna feel contentment. And I was like, well, what the fuck does that mean? You know? Like, what's contentment? You know? And so we were trying to unpack what's contentment. Does that mean I grew some vegetables and I gave them to the homeless guy in the corner? Or does it mean I built a cathedral
[01:23:34] Unknown:
or something? You know? So I'm like, what does contentment look like? And so For that person. For that person. That's why I asked you about faith because it's like, we have all these words, but that, you know, it's not you can't make an assumption that this, that word means the same thing for everybody. Totally. You know? And defining out what that means for her and what that might look like. So how would she know if she got it? How would she know if she achieved achieved that?
[01:23:56] Unknown:
Exactly. And the same thing with, like, faith. Like, think about it. Like, if we were to do a daily faith analysis, I'm doing my daily faith analysis. Like, do I feel faithful when I wake up? Yes. I have air and there's light. Okay. Cool. I can see stuff and I can talk and I can go touch technology. It's lunchtime. How's my faith analysis going? You know, like, how are my KPIs working on my faith? You know? But what I do notice when I work with people too, like the more that people start to kind of, identify a yes or a no and it could be a scale of one to 11 or whatever, that you're tracking your progress, you know? And so you get more like,
[01:24:40] Unknown:
wow, look, I did these things or maybe I didn't do anything and I'm still feeling faithful or I'm still feeling contentment or I'm still feeling like hopeful. And to that and to that point, is it necessary to do stuff? Because it's you know, when I talk about the additive, I have to do all these things in order to achieve something rather than about the contentment. It's like, well, what stops you from just feeling content right now in this moment? Exactly.
[01:25:02] Unknown:
Yeah. It's like, do I have to be a human doer, or can I just be a human being? Right. You know? And I don't know about you, but, like, when COVID was going on, you know, I was alone pretty much most of the time except when my kids would come up with me. And I was just like, I don't have to put makeup on. I don't have to shave my legs. And I'm feeling pretty good. I don't like it. You know? And I was like, I still wanna be healthy and not be like some, you know, Jabba the Hutt, you know, slob. But it it made me have, a brand new look at myself with self love. Yeah. You know? And I had a lot more self love because I didn't feel like I had to go out there and put on the human mask of like, yay. I'm so sparkly and happy all the time. You know, which I am most of the time for real. That's my truth. But I'm also like, yeah. Yeah. Whatever, dude. I got some b o. I'm cool.
[01:26:02] Unknown:
Self love and self acceptance. Just accepting who you are in in any given moment, in any given moment.
[01:26:08] Unknown:
Yeah. And I think I wonder, like, I mean, what what was it like for you during COVID? Like, did you have a different, I don't know. I'm just I'm I'm always like to ask people those questions. Like, did something change for you from your own personal awareness,
[01:26:23] Unknown:
lens? This is really interesting because it's March 13. This was the day five years ago that I shut down my office. Right? Really? Yeah. And I didn't, I never reopened it. So I was, I was working, you know, private practice and I had an office and excuse me, about 50% of my clients were online already. I had clients all over the world, London, Dallas, you know, all over. And, so about 50% were in person, 50% were on Zoom. And everybody kinda went to Zoom. So all the other clients went to Zoom, which I was already comfortable with. And I was like, Oh, so I never reopened my office. You know, and because I'm, I mean, I love being one on one, but I'm a little bit of an introvert. And I just, I live by myself with, you know, with my dog, who's right behind me on the floor here.
And I had my garden. I was like, I was perfectly happy. I was perfectly happy. Cause I could still do my work, really enjoy it, still support people where they were, meet them where they were and support them in the challenges that they had. And I lived in a beautiful rural, you know, I mean, it was, it's a small town, but it's a wine town. So it was, you know, rural and beautiful to walk anywhere. Lots of outdoor time. I had a great time. I had a great time. It was, it really fit me, you know, from my own personality. So many people I know that are incredible extroverts, they were so challenged. Right? Totally. But for me it was like, yeah, this is pretty comfortable. This is good. I know. I'm like, it's, it's, well, it's kinda like business as usual, you know? And it, and it actually freed me up because then I didn't have to deal with the office go there and deal with that stuff. And I just kind of, you know, that went away, but my practice actually just got bigger. So it was like the whole thing kind of at a very personal level worked for me. And the other thing was that in January of that year, I got the sickest I've ever been like flu plus, plus, plus. Woah.
And I'm convinced that I had COVID in January before it was announced because like ten days prior I had been in a big party. Lots of people. It was post Christmas, but everybody had been traveling and they were all over the world and I hugged everybody. So I got really sick for five days. Didn't know what it was cause I never get sick. I don't get the flu. I haven't had flu in decades. I was like super sick. So I think I got COVID before know, any vaccine, whatever stuff I'm like, which means I wasn't afraid of it. And once I kind of figured out what this was, I'm like, Oh, I got through that. Fine. Okay, fine. Yeah. You know, and I'm basically so healthy anyway. Most of the people that, you know, were really compromised had were already comorbidities.
You know, that's those are the people that ended up being on ventilators and and passing because they were already had very serious things going on. Yeah. For the for the rest of us, it was like, you and I've had it once since and it was no big deal.
[01:29:07] Unknown:
It's so crazy. I know. And I hope I don't get like banned on YouTube. I was doing an interview with, Ben Worman, you know who Ben is. Yeah. And it got banned, you know, because we brought up Yep. COVID and vaccines and chemtrails and all this stuff. But it was just like it sure is weird if you look at, like, the, the graphs from whoever, the CDC or whatever. It's like, oh, how many cases of the flu each year? And then all of a sudden,
[01:29:37] Unknown:
when COVID showed up, there were no cases of the flu. But then we had COVID. And I'm just like, you guys, shut the fuck up. Like, you know? Well, I I have lots of opinions about this because I've been in holistic health care for thirty five years and, you know, I know about a bunch of stuff. And I have lots of opinions about why that happened, how it happened, who that benefited, you know, the billions that were made by the pharmaceutical companies. I mean, you didn't hear at the be I'll say this one thing and then I won't go down that whole rabbit hole. But, you know, India has many, many more people in population than we do. And at the beginning, they were having lots and lots of issues. But they pretreated everybody. They didn't wait until they, you know, they used the medications that were available to treat them at the beginning of it. And then you never saw any, deaths coming out of India. It was very interesting. We had many, many more than India did with with a far larger population
[01:30:31] Unknown:
than we had. Do you think it's a was a population calling experiment?
[01:30:38] Unknown:
The I'm you know, I don't really wanna go down this whole thing of Bill Gates and all those folks and, you know, all that stuff. Yeah. We don't have to bring up their names, but, like, do you think that there it was something like, is it a test
[01:30:52] Unknown:
or is it a
[01:30:53] Unknown:
was it a I think I think there are a lot of factors that fit into it. Yeah. Of the whole pharma industrial complex of, you know, people in power wanting to stay in power and to exercise that power in various ways.
[01:31:05] Unknown:
That's all I'll say on that. K. Cool. We yeah. We don't have to go down there. Well, let's talk about collaborative custody. Sure.
[01:31:13] Unknown:
Sure. So
[01:31:15] Unknown:
Andy at the Bitcoin advisor. Tell me what do you do. Andy are great. Yeah. Collaborative
[01:31:20] Unknown:
custody. What's the Bitcoin advisor? I love these two. Of course, I love you. I love everybody who's working with them. It's an amazing team. We've got 40 advisers all around the world, and it's, you know, everybody that you know. I mean, it's Luke Broyles and Huddlnot and, you know, just and so many folks. Seth Bunny, you know, who wrote his book. Of course. Terrence. Terrence, you know. Yeah. Right. Exactly. And here here's another one of those listening to yes stories. So I had gone to Pacific Bitcoin and on the way there in my van, I listened to podcasts when I'm doing long distance driving. And I had listened to Peter Dunworth in an interview. And he was telling the story about like being on a, a surfboard and a white shark. I don't know if you heard that story. It's an amazing story where he basically barely escaped, you know, being eaten by a great white shark, you know, off the beach in Australia. It's an amazing story.
And so I get to Pacific book and I'm and I'm volunteering and running around doing things. And I hear this voice and I'm like, I know that voice. And in the back of the airplane hangar where we were was Peter Dunworth. And I go up and I say, you're the shark guy. And he's like, oh, I am. You know? Oh, I am. Oh, I am. And we ended up having a conversation. And then I had like dinner with him and Luke Broyles, like the night after. And then the next morning, we had, like, a small breakfast. And I knew that they had the Bitcoin advisor, but I'm thinking, oh, these are, like, all the tech geeky guys that they're not gonna, you know, I'm that wouldn't be a good fit. Yeah. And then I heard that Surfer Jim had joined them. I'm like, Surfer Jim? He's like, if Surfer Jim could do it, I could do it. Well, I'm like, that's interesting that they felt that was a good fit. And so I, you know, contacted, Peter and had a conversation, you know, Zoom call with him and Andy.
And by the end of it, they're like, we need you on board. You're female. You have a tech and a finance background. You're basically a boomer, which means we can send you anybody in that in that age range, and you're gonna be able to talk to them, and they'll feel comfortable with you. So that was like a year ago November. And it's been such a joy to be a part of that, you know, that group. And it's an amazing, amazing group of folks. Oh, and, Krista Edmonds too, Access Drive. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh. She's she's part of it. Kai, you know, who's also down in Australia. So 40 advisers all the way around the world. So we help people buy, manage, and secure their Bitcoin through multisig collaborative custody. And we and Peter Dunworth is he's been a financial advisor for high net worth individuals and family offices for over twenty years.
And for the last eight years, he's been helping them incorporate Bitcoin into their major portfolios, which means he's you know, he and Andy had developed these very, very rigorous protocols about security. And, you know, over these eight years, and, the Bitcoin advisor has been around for a couple of years now, not one single Satoshi has ever been lost. And the way that they do it, you know, it's, it's two of three keys, but a lot of other places you might go. I could talk about other companies and I won't, but like all three keys would be with other people or you would have two of the keys and there would be another key holder. What we're doing is we're really eliminating you as a single point of failure. So So you have a key, we have a key, and then there's another key holder. And it takes two of those keys to do a transaction, but only you can initiate a transaction. So it really eliminate, you still have control over everything. Your keys are not all with somebody else.
Only you can initiate that and you have total control over yours. So that's how we structured it. And it's like I said, we've not lost a single Satoshi. We also do estate planning. We do tax strategies. We help people add to their stack. So last year we did a, we kind of surveyed all the clients and the average addition to their stack was 51%. Wow. Yeah. Through various tax strategies and being able to kind of find capital in various places that you might not have thought to do. Yeah. I'm also working with a company and we as the Bitcoin advisor are called Orangebridge. And they have a a, a product that allows you to to pull equity out of your house, latent equity that's just sitting there if you have a lot of equity you've built up, pull it out, put it into Bitcoin.
And, you know, you still keep your mortgage. You're not paying an additional, you know, not like a HELOC payment. There's no monthly payment, but allows you to have Bitcoin and your home. So your home's going up in value and your Bitcoin's going up in higher value. And it's just it's an amazing program. So I'm working with them on that. How are they doing? Because I remember, like, over a year ago, I was trying to get something going with them. And, you know, they were like, you don't qualify. And I'm like,
[01:35:55] Unknown:
what do you mean? Like, all I'm needing is, like, I have equity in my house. I have a lot of it, and it's sitting there not doing anything. Right. Like, just, like, to buy some Bitcoin and pay down your your your loan with the Bitcoin. Like, how are they are they launched yet? Are they alive? They are launched. So this you know, it's it's three guys who have, you know, something like how many years?
[01:36:18] Unknown:
Forty years of mortgage, development, you know, mortgage experience. These are experts. But but you have to do it each state has different rules and regulations. Exactly. With And they were doing so they're now in 17 states. They are launched. Okay.
[01:36:33] Unknown:
And so they've had to be very, very careful about meeting the the, you know, regulatory requirements for each state to be able to launch in that state. NMLS is different. And I know we had a mortgage company, and so it's a pain in the way. And so some of them are, like, cool. Great. This is easy to do business. If there's a default, then it's like a nightmare, you know. So it's like you don't wanna just set up in the nightmare states. You know? So they have I think it's so lame. It's just kinda like, why don't they have a consistent, like, all the states operate under a you know? And as much as I love decentralized
[01:37:05] Unknown:
all this stuff, it's like, why can't we have voters things that are the same? And it's not it's not it's not decentralized. It's it's unique to each state. So they've had to be very, very careful about meeting the requirements for each state. The product is called Co Invest. Yeah. So you're diversifying your home equity into Bitcoin. Mhmm. I encourage people to check it out, and I'm happy to assist anyone that we know that wants to.
[01:37:25] Unknown:
Check out so find, Holly. So find findfyzer.com/holly
[01:37:30] Unknown:
or Or you can yeah. You can go to orangebridge.com. Okay. And, we're one of their their kind of, co partners on this. Because for instance, you take equity out, you put it into Bitcoin, and then what do you do with it? You know? So it makes sense to have it be in in collaborative custody, safely secured while, you know, your equity's going up and your and your, Bitcoin is going up. So the the product, if you go under orangebridge.com, you'll find it, and it's the product's called Co Invest. Cool. Very straightforward. Really well done. Highly recommend them.
[01:38:01] Unknown:
Good. Do you know, CJ Konstanopoulos? Like, he's doing Yeah. Like, he's doing something similar with, like, first and seconds. So I'm curious, like, how and he said they're gonna be launching, I think, towards the end of second quarter.
[01:38:15] Unknown:
Yeah. The the nice thing about this is it's because it's not like a HELOC thing. You're not having to pay monthly payments on it. You know? So it doesn't change your it doesn't change, you know, the monthly outgo. People didn't wanna have you know, be paying payments on this. So that's it's how it's structured and totally recommend people, check it out. So, you know, I love working with, with the Bitcoin advisor. They're great folks, smart. You know, we have monthly team monthly. We have weekly team meetings and it's, you know, I'm I'm with DASB and all these really, really fun folks. And they're all there are two meetings we have because we're global. So you have kind of the European crowd, and then you had, you know, I think the European crowd has a more fun meeting because it's like evening time and they're all with drinks and they're downing things.
And, you know, our meeting is like morning Australia time. They're having coffees. It's like, oh, you know, but it's a great, great group of folks. Great, great group of folks. I love it. And I'm, you know, perfectly happy to to, answer anyone's questions on that. They can reach me through the bitcoinadvisor, .com. And it's er because they're in Australia. They spell it funny. Yeah. .Com/holly. You can find my page there, and I'm happy to answer any questions about what we do and how to support you.
[01:39:29] Unknown:
Yeah. I think it's great. I know. I love seeing you know, we were talking about this the other night at the women's meetup, and it was like, there's so many of us that have all these different talents and skills and backgrounds. You know? And it's like, how does Bitcoin fuse into these things? You know? So whether it's personal development, whether it's taking a second out on your house, whether it's collaborative custody, whether it's podcasting or music or lightning splits or any of it. It's, like, so neat. The the bridges, you know, of of everything. And and I know I imagine for you, because it sounds like you've said this, like, you don't even know, like, oh my gosh. Money affects this, and then it does this, and it makes my behavior change. And then I do this thing over here, and then it changes my relationship. And then, you know, and so it's like this constant, like, hop, skipping, and jumping all over the place with with these things in our lives.
How, I'm gonna just you know, we'll wrap it up here because I know we've been a little over time, but, like, how, what do you see for the future for Bitcoin, Holly?
[01:40:39] Unknown:
That's a really good question. You know, I think it's going to be forming people people kind of get that it's gonna be forming a foundational the financial foundational layer, but they don't, and they're starting to understand through, Eric Gladstein. Is that his first name?
[01:40:58] Unknown:
Alex.
[01:40:59] Unknown:
Alex. Thank you. Alex Gladstein. You know, Human Rights Foundation, getting, supporting stranded energy in various places like Africa, you know, hydroelectric, creating energy for villages, and they're getting electricity. So you they have lights to study at night, but they're also earning Bitcoin. So Totally. So it's not just we're in first world countries and we think of it as a financial instrument number go up. We're really lucky that way. But, you know, it's it's gonna form the the platform, the foundation for so many different things globally.
And it's kind of relates into the big shift that we are in in terms of consciousness. And the qualities of Bitcoin totally align with, the values and the qualities of this new earth that is emerging. This decentralized equality, individual sovereignty, global borderless truth, transparency, all of these things. And, you know, Bitcoin is, because it's digital money and everything is energy and frequency, Bitcoin is really energy money. Right? And it's going to it's going to create a neutral, global money that that enables and promotes borderless concentrate, constant cooperation and peace. The where we're headed in this, this really big, shift in, in global consciousness.
Yeah. I mean, we're moving from kind of top down corporate political governmental structures and the elites having power over individuals and the severe, financial and human rights inequalities that we've seen. Yeah. And the and the the qualities of separation and division and, you know, manipulation, all those kinds of things. And we're really moving moving into a time of a much higher octave of consciousness, of cooperation, collaboration, power to the individual, individual sovereignty, personal sovereignty, and learning how to be energetic cocreators on the planet.
So we're gonna we're gonna see, and this is, you know let's see. Where do I wanna go with this? You know, we talk about how Bitcoin gradually then suddenly, that hockey stick. Yeah. It's gonna be the same thing in terms of the shift in consciousness. This is not gonna be a linear process. This is going to be a very sudden, really big state changes, shifts that are coming this year and next year. I mean, this is not far out. This is now. So we're really coming we'll be coming together as humanity in unity consciousness. And we'll see in that process rapid breakthroughs in science and technology and aviation and genetics and, medicines, you know, like energy medicines, healing technologies, plasma physics, all of these kinds of things, rapid, rapid, rapid shifts.
And the idea of having, for instance, free energy for everybody on the planet, which seems like way, way far out there, but it's gonna be much, much closer. But it's not. That's the thing. I mean, the the free energy movement has been completely suppressed, obviously. Absolutely. I mean, it already exists. The technology already exists. Right? Yeah. There's no yeah. It's just a matter of the incentives again. Like Totally. Free energy doesn't have huge incentives for the people who are used to making trillions of dollars off of the global market. There you go. There you go. So we're shifting from, like, you know, mind thought into the wisdom of our heart awareness. And so this is, you know, 2025 is a real, it's a real tipping point. It's a real paradigm shattering time. And it's predicted been predicted for eons and I won't even go into all the, you know, the different, galactic patterns that are that are completing this year and so beginning a very, very new transformative time.
So it's a time of awakening, shattering truths being revealed. Reality as we know it really, really shifting. Dissolution of the old paradigms. The beliefs, the constructs, all that stuff. So we're really moving into a time of kind of personal sovereignty, but also soul sovereignty.
[01:44:54] Unknown:
And what would you suggest for folks who might be listening who, again, because we we've got a couple of things obviously that are are, the barriers, the forces, the boundaries that are up against us, you know, whether they're our own personal imposed ones or, you know, from external forces. But like, what I know and I'm sure you see too is this tribalism mindset. Right? Us versus them in these dualistic ways of, approaching life. You know? The Republicans and Democrats, the this religion versus that religion, the this country versus that country, all the stuff, you know? And so there's this, I I think there's an intentional, pollution of the the the words, you know, and of the stories that are being told out there. And so what would you help people share, you know, so that they don't get Velcroed into that tribalism where they're just like, it's it's us versus them kind of thing so that they can remember, like, let's rise up 10,000 feet, 30,000, 10, hundred thousand feet, and look down and just be like, this is all just a game.
And the game is about how much can you love and how much can you, like, make the world a better place? Like, what would you tell people on, like, a practical level that they could do so that they don't feel like the Velcro is getting them all the time? Right. Exactly.
[01:46:22] Unknown:
Just to back up a little bit in on that idea is it's like there are two, timelines that are happening, two frequency timelines that are happening. And it's like two trains leaving the station, you know, parallel tracks, but the tracks are starting to diverge. Uh-huh. And so there are two different frequency timelines. And one is the kind of the fear based mainstream media, mainstream tech. And it's giving energetic life support to the old system that is crumbling. And a lot of people are still very, very, very, very attached to that because that's all they've known and they're terrified that if that goes away, you know, where will they be? And then there's the kind of, I'm calling it the love train. And it's like feeding the timeline of the new earth and it's residing in joy, you know, gratitude, compassion, love, peace.
And, you know, it's, we have to kind of consciously choose to be on that. Right now we can kinda go between them and I can feel myself doing that sometimes. I'm caught up in the thing. Right? Totally. But the other analogy that I'll use is like being kind of the bird up on the branch. And we're just you just watching, oh, look at that's happening over the oh, look, they're they're spray painting Teslas over there. Okay. Right. You know, they're they're like and so just watching all the drama play out and not being not what's that expression about? You know, if you, if you roll in the, in the, in the mud with pigs, they just have a good time and you just get dirty. Right? So it's like being able to have that kind of discernment to, to be able to observe what's happening in the world, but not get caught up in the drama of it. And part of that is having the practices where, you know, you are this next year specifically is going to be very turbulent, very chaotic. The energies are going to be very chaotic. So it's very, very important that we do be taking care of ourselves. Yeah. And the three things that I really suggest people do is Cool.
Stay in grounded stillness, whatever that means for you. Meditation, you know, going outside and being on grass, you know, so you're touching the earth, grounding. Touching the earth, grounding, whatever, you know, whatever works for you in that way. So, you know, whatever practice you use for grounded stillness, maintaining that observer perspective. This is like a little bird sitting on a branch up here. Watching the drama playing out without engaging. And we talk in Bitcoin about signal. And this is ignoring the signal, ignoring the distractions and really focusing on the signal. And the signal is that train that's leaving the station that's like, I wanna be on that train. That's signal. I want to be, you know, feeling love, peace, joy inside of me and being, we're mixing metaphors all over the place here. Being the lighthouse that's sending out love, peace, joy around me. Right? So that's one thing is staying in grounded stillness, however you're doing that.
And the other is, and there are three things here, connecting to like minded people to share and collaborate, build community. Cause it's, you know, instead of just doing this all by yourself, but finding your, what I'm calling your frequency tribe. Yeah. Your vibe tribe, baby. Let's go. Vibe tribe. There you go. And and the third thing is holding a clear vision of the ideal world that you want to see manifested. Yeah. Because the thing is, as we move into this time of of, you know, advanced ascended consciousness, things are gonna be manifesting like that. It used to be a really much longer time between you would think something and then it would show up in three d.
As we think, we create, but that timeframe is gonna get a lot, a lot, a lot shorter. So really holding that clear vision of what am I wanting? Where am I wanting that love train to go? What do I want that world to look like? Yeah. How do I wanna inhabit it? How do I want people to, interact with each other? What do I want that to look and feel like? So those are really the three things that can really help you stay stable as we move through this really, really turbulent, amazing I mean, it's gonna be amazing time. If you don't get caught up in the in the mud part of it and you're just watching going my personal version of this, when Trump got elected the second time, I'm like, perfect. Look at the dream team he's establishing around him, Tulsi, Kennedy, you know, it's like, oh, this is how we're gonna get from here to there. And people are just having fits about, but he's not in the same place mentally and energetically that he was the first administration. I don't know whether it was the, you know, the close call, but he cares about his legacy now. He cares about making a difference and he still may be bombastic and whatever, that's his personality.
But what he wants to create and the and what's being created here through him, not just him, through him and the people around him is part of this huge shift that we are, experiencing and where we're headed. Yeah.
[01:50:51] Unknown:
I love it. And I think that says a lot too to people, like, just, you know, to put a bow on it. We're not the same people we were four years ago. We're not the same people we were eight years ago. And so neither are the people around us. And so for all of us to, like, operate from a place of grace, you know, and operate from a place of, like, it is gonna be a little messy, you know, and it's gonna be okay. Like, we're gonna get through this. And I love that you mentioned, you know, making sure that you're part of a community that you feel aligned with, you know, heart, body, mind, soul, like minded folks. And, that makes all the difference. Because It really helps. Especially for those of us who are, you know, Bitcoiners and, you know, and I know for female Bitcoiners, you know, there's not as many of us. So it's nice for us to just be like, hey, what's up? High five. But, you know, it's like find your tribe, you know, and contribute to your tribe and your tribe is gonna continue to support you too. So it's a, you know, a reciprocal loop kind of thing.
Well, so I am so excited to see you next Tuesday on the the spaces with Lauren and Tomer, and we're gonna have some fun. It'll be, 08:30 Pacific on Tuesday morning on, Bitcoin today. And then this is obviously gonna be out there on all the channels. I'll, you know, edit it and put it up on our podcast stuff, but
[01:52:15] Unknown:
I really like, I love you. I'm so glad that you're my friend. I love you too. This was so much fun. This was like and I'd love to, you know, as you were talking about just having it be an organic process and just see where, you know, where everything wanted to flow because it's all about flow. It's all about, you know, alignment, frequency, and flow. That's it. You know? That's everything. Totally. I know. And the more that we try to, like, control it and turn it into this, like, little SOP kind of thing, it's like, man, this is Nah. It doesn't work. It doesn't work. And it's part of, and it's part of surrendering to connection to source. You know, it's like one of the things that I am still I still struggle with sometimes because I'm a quad Capricorn. I'm like all about, you know, hard work, make a like, oh my gosh. Thank God I have a Leo moon and that allows me to kinda be, here I am. But it's like surrendering to surrendering to being in flow, surrendering to to connection to source and being in flow. And when we do that, we are so well supported.
So then I talk about that red carpet. The red carpet. It's just red carpet all the time. Right? It's like yep. And it's like and a lot of people get this,
[01:53:16] Unknown:
you know, again, and it's a fear and a control response of, like, I wanna have all the steps mapped out before I even take the first step. And it's kind of like, you know, dear God, what's the next right step? What's the next right move? What's the next right thing? And so when we can get in alignment with not thinking that we need to have the whole journey mapped out, because you it never works out anyways. Even if you think I'm mapping it out and you're like, I'm on MapQuest or Google or whatever, it's kinda like, oh, shit. The kid has got a pee, so we're stopping now. Yeah. We're gonna go to this, like,
[01:53:51] Unknown:
little tiki hut thing here on the side of the road. And you never know what's gonna happen there. It could be wonderful. I mean, I I encourage people to work with their attention and their intention. Right? So have a clear intention about what you're wanting and give your attention to that. Yeah. It's a little bit like when you, you know, said I want this house with the the the the the the the the. Right? Totally. Got it. Same thing happened when I moved to California. It's like I had this clear vision of the in the house that I wanted and it totally manifested. Yeah. So having having a clear intention, and that kinda relates back to the train that the love train. Having a clear intention about what you're wanting and giving your attention, intention and attention to that Yeah. Will help you, you know, create that in your life. And it will magnetize to you the things that will support that and support you in that process. Yeah. I think that's so important because a lot of times people think like,
[01:54:39] Unknown:
oh, if I'm just in flow, it just means I'm just like a little leaf in the wind and I'm just gonna let the wind blow me. It's like, no, dude. You're like you're a co creator. You are a co creator and you have, you know, this sounds weird. I never said it this way, but you have a responsibility as a co creator to be intentional about what you wanna create. Yeah. Otherwise, you're just gonna get presented with all this stuff and You'll get the default. You'll get the default rather than what you really want. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. Well, thank you again, Holly. And Thank you, love. Great to be with you So as always. With you. I know. Right? And so I look forward to many more, and I'm excited to see you next Tuesday. So everybody tune in. And then make sure you guys follow Holly. Follow Holly, at bliss underscore smart on x, and then make sure you go to the bitcoinadvisor.com/holly if you guys wanna connect and learn about collaborative custody and all the other things that she's up to. So And And they can reach me there through anything else too. And bliss bliss smart is like bliss the smart way. When I said it doesn't have to be hard or take a long time, it's bliss the smart way. Totally. I know. Right? It's like you're cool because you're a bridger. You know? You're the left and the right. So that's exactly what it is. I love it. Exactly. Alright, everybody. Thanks so much. Thank you, love. Peace, love, and warm. Aloha, Holly and everyone, and I'll talk to you guys soon. Mhmm. Yay. Bye.
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Introduction and Guest Welcome
Holly's Journey to Bitcoin
Career Shifts and Spiritual Awakening
Personal Growth and Holistic Health
Bitcoin and Spirituality
Astrological Influences and Energies
Soul Sovereignty and Personal Evolution
Energy Medicine and Healing
Challenges with Traditional Therapy
Plant Medicine and Healing Experiences
Intuition and Following Nudges
Clearing Conditioning and Connecting to Source
Collaborative Custody and Bitcoin Advisor
Future of Bitcoin and Consciousness Shift
Practical Tips for Navigating Change
