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In this enlightening episode, we welcome Daniela Villalba, a passionate Bitcoin educator and research analyst, who shares her journey into the world of Bitcoin.

The conversation delves into the real-world applications of Bitcoin, such as its role in financial sovereignty and human rights, and Dani shares personal anecdotes, including her family's experience with frozen bank accounts in Mexico. The discussion also touches on the broader societal implications of Bitcoin, including its potential to address issues of inflation and economic inequality.

Dani discusses her initial skepticism towards Bitcoin and how she transformed into a staunch advocate after realizing its potential to revolutionize the world. She talks about her involvement with the University of Victoria's crypto club, which focuses on Bitcoin and self-custody principles.

Dani explains her role at Block Rewards, where she simplifies complex financial data for the average person, making Bitcoin more accessible and understandable. She highlights the common misconceptions about Bitcoin, largely fueled by negative media portrayals, and the challenges people face in believing Bitcoin's potential.

Dani and the host explore the importance of education in the Bitcoin space, particularly for younger generations, and discuss upcoming events like the Learning Bitcoin Conference in Victoria. They emphasize the significance of involving women in the Bitcoin conversation and the empowering nature of diverse representation.

The episode concludes with reflections on leadership, the transformative power of Bitcoin, and the hope it brings for a more equitable and conscious future. Dani shares her personal practices for maintaining balance and positivity, underscoring the holistic benefits of engaging with the Bitcoin community.

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(01:00) Introduction to Bitcoin Education

(01:39) Dani's Journey into Bitcoin

(03:31) Role as a Research Analyst

(04:46) Overcoming Bitcoin Misconceptions

(06:40) Real-life Bitcoin Use Cases

(10:57) Block Rewards and Community Building

(13:25) Upcoming Bitcoin Events

(15:34) Bitcoin Education for Kids

(16:31) Empowering Women in Bitcoin

(19:00) Leadership and Feminine Energy

(24:32) Impact of Inflation on Families

(31:36) Family's Banking Challenges

(36:13) Cash vs. CBDCs

(39:39) Bitcoin Community and Culture

(45:14) Future of Bitcoin Education

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[00:00:46] Unknown:

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[00:01:00] Unknown:

Hey. Aloha, Love Tribe. Welcome to the show. I have somebody here with me who is on a mission to educate   men, women, children, everybody all over the world about Bitcoin. She's a research analyst and an educator.   This is Daniella Villalba. Welcome, Daniella.   Go by Dani. I I know you said you like to go by Dani. How's it going? Oh, thank you so much for having me. It's going great.  

[00:01:22] Unknown:

Honestly, like, I've long admired all the positivity and the great vibes that you bring to the space. Ah. And so I'm just honored to be here.  

[00:01:31] Unknown:

Thanks so much. So so let's talk about you. How the heck are you in Bitcoin, and what's going on? What's your big dream? What's your big mission? How'd you get here?  

[00:01:40] Unknown:

So, honestly,   I got into Bitcoin because   one of my close friends got into the rabbit hole first.   And,   you know, my first   reaction was to be skeptical. My first reaction was to   distrust.   And back then, I was a little,   honestly, more more than anything, just uninformed and a little ignorant.   So I thought Bitcoin was   only for, like, the crypto bras and the very savvy financial,   persons. Like, I was kinda scared, and I also saw it as, like, a way to make just quick money, which in my philosophy was not right. So I came from that   completely opposite,   space   that I am right now. Because when I started to really look into how Bitcoin could not work, I really started to realize how Bitcoin was already working and how it was already helping a lot of people in the world and all that it could one day be.  

So   after that clicked for me, I really just realized that that's where I want a 100% of my energy to be. I now see it as   the one thing that   can revolutionize   everything in the world.   So   yeah, that's kinda how it started   to begin with. But   then in university,   I joined   Secunard with the crypto club at the University of Victoria. Cool. Okay.   Yeah.   I say crypto club, but it really works as like,   Trojan   horse protocol.   We really have turned it into a Bitcoin only club,   really focusing on self custody of principles   and   how to really be sovereign with Bitcoin.  

So that's kinda how it started with me. And so and so so what's your  

[00:03:34] Unknown:

like, you're a research analyst at Block Rewards. Tell us about that. What does that mean? Yeah. So pretty much what I do is take,  

[00:03:41] Unknown:

like,   data that's a little bit,   big for the reg like, you know, the regular person living their life out there and make it understandable for them. So, you know, inflation,   maybe, like, even how to, like, begin to think about, like, their future and their time preference. So we really just kinda, like, simplify,   like, complex topics   for   your normal person.   That's kinda like what I found to do, and it's a great team.  

[00:04:14] Unknown:

And so   what do you find is   like, when you're, you know, having meetups or doing education projects or anything, what are you finding are the biggest obstacles that people are coming to you with as far as, like, they don't understand? You know, and, obviously, your goal is to simplify data, make it digestible for us normies. You know, what are people coming to you with that you think is a consistent,   like, I don't get it. I don't get it. And then they get an moment because you,   with your genius ability to to educate, how do how do you help people overcome those things?  

[00:04:47] Unknown:

Yeah. So I think there's   probably 2 main,   issues with it.   I think the first one was that early on,   media really   like, the it made Bitcoin such a   negative thing. So I think that the main obstacle that I see is that people out there think that   Bitcoin   is negative or doesn't have any issue. Like, oh, not doesn't have any   case views.   Right. So that would be one of the issues that I see that is, like, mainly just a lack of education out there Mhmm.   And the media.   And the second one, that's more about, like,   the people that are already in a little bit in the space and, like, they   might understand inflation   and, like, what Bitcoin means for inflation, or they might understand how mining works, like, a little bit.  

But I find   that most people who are still hesitant after learning all those things is because they don't believe that   Bitcoin can make it. Like, they they're still in that fiat mindset of like, well, like, if the government decides, they can just, like, delete Bitcoin. Or   Mhmm. Quantum computer is gonna come and, like, delete. But   and so I think that mostly it's, like, they don't believe that change can really be done. And   Mhmm. That's, I think, the main issue.  

[00:06:14] Unknown:

And what have what have you seen, you know, with   people having an moment? Like, what what clicks for them? Is it the inflation thing? Is it the human rights layer? Is it like, woah, I can send some money home to across borders and not and my my grandma doesn't need to go down to the Western Union? Like, what are you seeing that when people,   like, oh,   oh, oh, yeah. This actually is gonna can work and is gonna work.  

[00:06:40] Unknown:

Yeah. I think that partly what you said is, like, when people need to use it Mhmm. When,   and, like, for example, like, my family got their blog, their bank accounts blocked in Mexico a few weeks ago.   Really? Like, just a couple weeks ago? Yeah. It's because they had, like, a big bigger transaction that you than usual. And so it got flagged and they couldn't access their funds for a while.   And it was very hard, but at the same time, it was hard for me to see my family go through that when I've been talking about Bitcoin for so long.   So I think that a lot of people won't get that   moment until they need to have it, until, like, their privilege is not there anymore. Yeah. But lucky for us, there's also a lot of people who are getting that moment without really needing it. Yeah. And for that,   I guess inflation and, like, the fact that the the last   4 or 5 years have really getting, like, exponentially worse for most people out there. We're starting to to sense those needs. But at the same time, there's also, like, this level of consciousness   that I feel like people in the Bitcoin space,   most of us share.  

I think that, it was,   Troy's with,   if I'm not correct,   like, the,  

[00:08:05] Unknown:

this one second. Sorry about that. No worry. It's okay. No. I agree. I think Bitcoin is conscious money, you know, and we think about that. There's a lot of people out there and that's obviously that's one of the reasons why I got more involved in Bitcoin because I think of the human rights component of it and how it's   like, Oh, my gosh, this base layer of toxic money called fiat that we're building the world on   is cancerous. It's causing this giant cancer of our our souls, our hearts, and everything in the world. And so when when   you can connect the dots that if you are building society on   sludge, toxic poison sludge,   you can't ever get to where society really wishes to be, which is in a a state of harmony, a state of love, a state of prosperity, a state of freedom, a state of of fairness, you know, not equality because equality is never gonna happen. But we need to have people that be able to have equal opportunities at least, and the current financial system doesn't allow that. Right?  

And so, yeah, Holly Berkey, I love her. She talks about she uses the phrase, you know, conscious money, and I think she's so right about that and, obviously, so many of us.   So sorry. I I wanted you to get your thought while I was rambling. Yeah.  

[00:09:14] Unknown:

No. Thank you so much. I think that is, like, exactly what I meant. And,   it just brought a little back, to the neck Nakamoto project. And,   it it states that, like, you know, if you   are in Bitcoin, the mo the more you research Bitcoin, the more you believe in it. And I think that works the same way with, like, consciousness. The more the more you practice consciousness, the more you feel it. And so,  

[00:09:41] Unknown:

yeah, I think that was a good correlation that made me very happy to see there. It's so cool. I know. I think about and and I like the the way, you know, when you are practicing your love and your consciousness, the more that you magnetize that toward you. And,   uncle rock star Dev, he talks about, you know, you know, the more that you work on Bitcoin, Bitcoin's working on you. And so it's like and the more that you're giving to Bitcoin, Bitcoin is giving to you. I know a lot of folks talk about that, and I think it's   it's super important. Hi, Ozan.  

And so,   it's fun to, you know, get these dots connected with,   I think, our spiritual practices, with our love, with our relationships, with societal and cultural implications.   I think women are a little bit more on the social   layers than I mean, not that, you know, we're not able to go do math and cryptography and all this stuff, but   we're the soft side of things, you know?   And so having the that opportunity to have both sides of the masculine and feminine   come forward and talk about Bitcoin from different lenses, then we can bring more people in, you know, because it's like if we're all talking about,   you know, I don't know,   the crypto stuff or the finance stuff, I'm like,   I feel stupid. I don't belong in this conversation and I run away and I hide. But when I hear people talking about how Bitcoin is changing their lives, how it's changing their mental and spiritual and physical health, how it's changing the relational   experience they have with each other, now you've got my attention. You know? And I think a lot of us ladies are, you know and men like this stuff too, but I think, you know, we understand   how we operate.  

So let's talk about   what's what's Block Rewards? Tell me what what is Block Rewards? I wanna know, like, what you guys are doing over there with Scott. Yeah. So Block Rewards,  

[00:11:33] Unknown:

we have   services that incorporate Bitcoin into your rewards. So whether you wanna, you know, incorporate it into your paycheck, for example, or you want to convince your employer to start bringing   re   benefits plans,   that include Bitcoin in them.   So we facilitate all of that here in Canada.   Yeah. As well as Scott has his podcast. It's incredible. They just,   they just   celebrated the 50th episode. I think that's all. Yeah.   And we also do a lot of, like, educatives,   educated content.  

[00:12:12] Unknown:

Yeah. Cool. And where are you seeing most of the use cases where people are, like, picking up, you know, what you guys are doing? Like, where are most people excited about using block rewards? Yeah. I think for here, like, in Canada, just because we I think Canadians, when they think about Bitcoin, they do think about it like as a savings technology or even an investment.  

[00:12:32] Unknown:

So I think that at least here in Canada, most people are coming from that end of, like, making,   their money just work better for them.   Yeah. I think that's all like, that's what Blocker Rewards is all about. But there's also very like, it's also very good to see them building a community of Bitcoin and growing that. Yeah. Because I think they're the first ones doing that in Canada. I haven't seen anyone else do it here.   And when I first started   to get into Bitcoin, I couldn't,   like, reach out. There I just felt so alone. I felt like there was no Bitcoiners in the area. Yeah.   And connected with Block Rewards and all the things that they're doing as well with the meetups and stuff like that really opened the doors for me. And so I'm I'm confident that Block Rewards is just creating such a good environment for the anyone who's interested in Bitcoin in Canada pretty much. I love it. And and so let's talk about some events that are coming up. So Tristan,  

[00:13:30] Unknown:

from from me premiere introduced you to me. So thank you, Tristan. Shout out, brother. And,   and you guys have got a learning Bitcoin conference coming up in Victoria. You wanna talk tell everybody about that?  

[00:13:43] Unknown:

Yeah. It's, it's really coming up. It's happening so soon. It's September 28.   Yeah. Big shout out to Tristan and the Bold Bitcoin team for making everything possible. It's it's been so awesome.   So   the conference   really is   an a learning conference. Like, it's all centered about education.   We're very proud about that. Tristan   did,   had the idea while he was at Bitcoin Atlantis. So it is pretty much a Bitcoin coming.   They have some of the best products in in Bitcoin. I'm so excited about them. Nice. It's   we're focusing a lot in the panels   in the panels and in the, workshops as well. So, yeah, there's gonna be a little bit of everything.  



[00:14:38] Unknown:

Okay. Let's talk about lightning sparks. This is exciting to me. This I love the kids zones at any conference. I don't care if it's a Bitcoin conference or business. Like, kids need to be at conferences with their families   learning about what mom and dad are learning about. Let's talk about this.  

[00:14:54] Unknown:

Yeah. I'm   one of the most things I'm very proud about for Learning Bitcoin is that the conference really is designed for everyone.   You know, it's designed for you to be able to bring your friends and families. So there's really no excuse. Like, oh, I don't have who,   where to leave my kids.   Bring them to light Lightning Sparks All Ages Lounge.   I am personally very excited about it. I'm definitely gonna be getting   going to do a couple rounds there.   So, yeah, it's   lining sparks is a Canadian company that,   focuses on education   for kids about Bitcoin.  

And   it is founded by one of our speakers, Angela Chan, and she is   Buford's teacher in Canada to make Bitcoin education public.  

[00:15:46] Unknown:

So Amazing. Super excited. It's so cool. I know. I see lightning piggy and free market kids. I'm new to Coded Shadows, but I think it's like, the more that we can get kids understanding this, like, then guess what?   We don't have to uneducate them about fiat. They already know why Bitcoin is better. They're already utilizing Bitcoin,   you know, and and they get it. And I think   educating kids is, like, obviously, me, Premier Bitcoin and the diploma is is so extraordinarily important,   because   the kids are obviously the future. And if they're not learning this at the same pace, if not faster than we are, you know, it it's not gonna work. And so I think it's such an important,   endeavor. And let's also talk about,   you got a women's panel.  

Let's talk about the women's panel.  

[00:16:34] Unknown:

Yeah.   So Angela   from Line Experts, and she she's speaking.   Emma Apatou from Emma's awesome. Yeah. I love her. Yes. We we love Emma.   Her and Amanda Wright, who is,   my personal mentor as well. Nice. So I'm even yeah. I'm so honored and so excited for the women's panel.  

[00:16:59] Unknown:

It's gonna be great. What do you think like,   why do you think a woman's panel is is you know, because, obviously, it's like most of the panels are men, so we're not having, like, a men's panel. So this will kinda segue us into the conversation and what we you know, I started off with,   you know, the name of this this episode. Like, how do you think, you know, this panel is gonna help under educate and empower women,   whether you're a mom because you're a leader if you're a mom, whether you're a student, whether you're a business owner, you know, whether you're running,   you know, anything in the world. So what do you think how how is this gonna support these these women?  



[00:17:36] Unknown:

Yeah. I think,   pretty much,   in the way that you said it,   we have a good representation. So to begin with,   everyone who's speaking at the Laurence Panel has a very different background. So,   I think you can feel identified in in different senses with that. But beyond that, I also think that it's just very empowering, and I've lived this with the woman   that have come to the space before me. So it's very empowering to hear   other people who you identify with,   just doing it. Like, to know that you can be a mom and you can be a consultant and you can be a bit Bitcoiner.   Like, you can,   be a teacher and   make   your teachings, like, fit with Bitcoin. And that's the thing about Bitcoin. It's like you don't have to be   one thing. You can be many things and be a Bitcoiner.  

I think that that's,   like, part of why we and, like, I lived it.   I was just so intimidated   with that, and I didn't thought that I could do it all. Like, I couldn't, like, you know, be a pretty girl, like, and and be in Bitcoin or etcetera. And so I think it's just very refreshing. And,   like, the way they speak, it's it's incredible. I'm myself, I'm   inspired by them. So  

[00:19:01] Unknown:

yeah. I love it. I think it's amazing. And,   let's come back a little bit to the word leader.   It's it's a word that I've struggled with my whole life, you know, and and it's an it's a it's   a a role that I've I've I've pushed away, You know? And and I've taken lots of business courses and mastermind stuff, and I've run businesses, and and I'm an entrepreneur.   But the minute somebody's like, oh, you're you need to step up in this leadership position,   I'm just like, not me. You know? And,   I'm literally doing therapy about it   because it's like, why am I pushing that responsibility away? And strangely enough, I did a hypnotherapy session yesterday, and I'm gonna tell you something really strange. But when I was 10, my parents got divorced, and and I had to grow up really quick and start taking care of my younger brother who was 8. And   we got into whatever. Go do go do the dishes, da da da, and he got mad at me and chased me around with a knife.  

And so my little brother was, like, trying to kill me, and I had to go find a room that had a door to lock, which is my mom's bedroom. And so I go in there, and I'm, like, panicked. You know? And I'm, like, trying to call her because she's at work. And, and he's out there, like, banging on the door with a knife like, like Jack Nicholson in The Shining. I'm like, what the fuck?   And I'm, like, totally scared. But so there's some old programming for me personally that that associates   too much responsibility   or too much leadership with death.  

And that's a weird old trick and a pattern, and I wonder for women,   like,   a lot of us, you know, we're we we have our own leadership roles in our own way, but, like, do you resonate with the word leader? And, like, do you consider yourself a leader?  

[00:20:42] Unknown:

I hope to be one. What  

[00:20:45] Unknown:

And what does it mean to you to be a leader? That's the thing.  

[00:20:47] Unknown:

For me   for me, it really just lead like, it's like putting leading by example and, like, being true to yourself.   But it is hard to see it that way. I think that's kinda what you're getting at because a 100%. I think that, like,   like, for us women, it's not off like, it's not not often, but it's   sometimes we don't, like,   get in   represented   in the media or, you know, outside as, like,   the leaders.   And so maybe   I wouldn't see it in myself necessarily   like that. But leadership doesn't necessarily mean being, like, the top head of the company or being, like, the, you know, the richest person in the world or the person who makes all the decisions.   I think that,   like,   the the definition of a leader has changed for me through time. And I think that now in Bitcoin,   because for me, like, the leaders in the space are the people who are embodying   what they're, like, are representing.  

Mhmm.  

[00:21:52] Unknown:

That's what for me is being a leader right now. So Yeah. And I feel like, you know, have you heard the phrase servant leader?   No. Actually, no. So that's like a, you know, a management philosophy. And so,   our job as leaders, you know, if we if we embody the the servant leader mentality, it's like we're not it's it's bottom up leadership. Like, our job is to keep raising our team and our community and the folks around us up from us being the wind beneath their wings versus top down, you know, do what I say kinda thing. And so so I think that's a it's a very powerful way to lead, you know, is, like, leading from leading from behind, leading from the bottom, you know, and pushing your team and your community forward. So I think that's a very, very important distinction.   I I also wonder about,   you know, in business, obviously,   you know, we've got, obviously, all this inflation. I see Seb is gonna be speaking, who I love   so much. And and, the hidden cost of money was great. And I love how Seb addresses,   you know, what's going on in the family systems   and why, you know, this in this inflation is tearing us apart,   not just, oh, I can't pay the rent this month or whatever, but it's like, now we've got 2, 3, 4 jobs that are needed to be held to support a family,   which means mom and dad aren't home, which means the kids are latchkey kids and stuff. And so,   you know, I I think   Bitcoin is addressing,   hopefully,   what is pushing   the women to have to go be so masculine   out there in the workplace. You know? And so it's like especially when we're raising a family.  

You know, like, I I took, you know, 15 years, 16 years off of my career so I could be a stay at home mom. And I wasn't gonna have kids unless I knew that that was   a 100% my option because I was just like, I don't need to go have kids and be like my mom, which I was hardly saw her after divorce. So   inflation is obviously tearing families apart. It's creating mental health issues. It's creating family issues, but it's also creating this   hypermasculin   hypermasculinization   of women.   You know? And so it's like, how do we balance being a feminine servant leader   and then still being able to go home and, you know, take care of our families and   be pretty and and soft and gooey and yummy because that's what women are. You know? And we've had to   harden our our our truth so that we could go fit in and survive.  

You know? And so what's your experience with that as a young woman? Because you're obviously,   you know, coming into this new   realm of being a career woman. And,   yeah, I just get your perspective.  

[00:24:32] Unknown:

Totally. I love Seb's work. I love that he's, referenced him.   And just a little,   just representation. He is going to be signing his book at learning Bitcoin   for a good thing.   As for that, I'm I feel very lucky. I truly like, I every day in my gratitude journal is, like, I'm so grateful that I found Bitcoin.   Like, thank you.   I feel very lucky and privileged that Bitcoin has allowed me to do exactly that to, like, be able to find myself in a professional space, but still take care of myself, you know, and my feminine energy and everything else. And I think that's what Bitcoin really is all about. Just like giving you the power to the side and, like, giving in   yeah.  

So,   I love, like, what you and Seth mentioned about the family structure because it's   one of the things that I think   are   the priority today. It's very heartbreaking   to see how many   younger people are dealing with depression and even like drugs and everything. And it really does come from a broken family that comes from broken money, some related.   So   hearing people my age and right now that I'm convincing everybody to come into the event, and most people don't think they're gonna have a family. They don't think they're gonna own a home. They don't think that, like, they're gonna be able to do what they want for their career.   It's heartbreaking.  

It's especially when it's people that I love believing this because in my   perspective,   they're they're just, like, self made lies that people outside lie to,   to remind us of, really.  

[00:26:24] Unknown:

They're paid to remind us of these things. They're they're incentivized   to remind us of scarcity.   And, you know, you don't have the right car. You have too many wrinkles. You don't have enough of, you know, your house or your clothes or whatever it is. There's not enough scarcity mentality   that we're being programmed with all the time. And so, the nihilism that's coming alongside that from all the generations, right, but certainly, the younger generation who   the dream of having your own home, the dream of the stability   of what that could feel like for you   is so far out of reach at this point for many, many people. And so it is leading to these mental and spiritual health breakdowns   that   hopefully, Bitcoin, you know, among many other things, is a tool. It's not just, okay, we fix the money. It's like, no. Now we've gotta fix what's going on up here and right here   at the same time, you know? And I love that you have a gratitude journal. That's   that's   let's talk about that. I'm gonna segue into your daily practice. So let's talk about your daily self love and self care and self empowerment practice. What do you do besides journal? Everything starts with the, with the gratitude journal. I,  

[00:27:35] Unknown:

everything,   I that's the thing. I don't know if it was a coincidence or it just was like the way   the energy happened to work, but it all came at around the same time, like Bitcoin and the betterment of of my life.  

[00:27:50] Unknown:

Cool.  

[00:27:51] Unknown:

So, yeah, just to begin with,   definitely,   food.   And, like, reading broken food as well, it was, like, very interesting.   A complete   365 degrees from there. I keep just being mindful about what your interactions and what you feed yourself in. Like, not only food, but also, like, media.   Yeah. What's your consumption model? Yeah. That's On the holistic consumption model. Yep. Yeah. So I would say, like, the gratitude journal, being mindful about, like, your,   environment   and meditation   for real. Like,   I   it was very interesting to learn what   energy is and, like, what we  

[00:28:37] Unknown:

are because we really are energy and how that works. Who are some of your teachers and books that you were reading about learning about energy? I'm just curious. Or podcasts or whatever. Like, how did you start to learn about energy in your life? Well, this is super  

[00:28:51] Unknown:

you know,   the first ever book that I ever read or had anything to do with that was The Power of Now that a lot of people out there read, like Mhmm. Yep. That was the start. And   it kinda, like,   stayed for a little bit, and then I completely drifted away from that. And then I ended up reading,   heal heal your energy. It's like the power of healing your energy.   Mhmm. And it is all from   a quantum perspective. So it's a little bit like physics and stuff like that. That's what really grabbed me. And recently,   I believe it's, already   been a year, I wanna say, maybe a couple months, but Scott Dittel's,   the DAO of Bitcoin book   was what put   that whole energy part and Bitcoin together.  



[00:29:40] Unknown:

Awesome. Oh my god. And you get to work with him? That's so cool. I know. I was,  

[00:29:44] Unknown:

I'm, like, a big fan.   So meeting him and working with him was like  

[00:29:51] Unknown:

So cool. Yeah. Isn't it it's so interesting, right, because so, like, I don't know about you, you know, we and I wanna come back to your family too about what happened in Mexico and talk about a couple of other stories. But,   you know, it's just I think it's so interesting when we start to connect the dots because I was I grew up with   the mantra, Money is evil. Money is the root of all evil, you know, the whole thing and you hear I'm sure lots of us have grown up that way.   And I really used to be like, Oh. And I watched my family fall apart.   I watched relationships in my family completely disintegrate   because of some money arguments that they were having, you know, with my grandmother and my father. And I was just like,   you realize you only have one mom, dad, and so you should, like, figure this out with her. And but because they're egos and it was about some stupid money thing,   it broke them apart until the day she died, and they never talked again. And I'm just like,   oh my god. Money must be really awful. Like, this is so bad. I you know? And so I had this push pull relationship with it. And and until I started getting into Bitcoin truly, even though as an entrepreneur, I've run businesses, I've done all this stuff, I I never was in right relationship with the energy of money and what is money from that. Do you know who Lynn Twist is?  

I haven't heard about them. Oh, she's amazing. I'll send you her book. But she   I think it's called the the the soul Soul of Money is her book, and she talks about,   you know, she's a philanthropist, but she was the same way. She just was in this weird thing and then she finally got into right relationship with the energy of money and, of course, anything just started switching because she looked at it from an energetic perspective, right, instead of,   you know, just the physical component type of thing. And so so I think it's really important that we talk about that. So, yeah, so working with so let's talk about your your family. I wanna go back to that really quick. Is that okay? Yeah. That's absolutely okay.   Do you know who Alex Hormozias?  



[00:31:47] Unknown:

I am sorry.  

[00:31:48] Unknown:

It's okay. Alex, he's he's a,   you know, he's he's,   you know, super big multimillionaire guy, started from nothing, started all these gym launch programs, whatever. Now he's got this, you know, $100,000,000   offer, $100,000,000   leads, etcetera. He's just crushing it. And so, you know, he buys and helps companies grow. But what was interesting because I'm like, dude, you're a Bitcoiner. You don't even know it yet. And so I was listening to his book, I don't know, maybe a year ago, and the first story was him talking about,   oh, we were doing this launch, and we got you know, it was right before the holidays, and we got, like, you know, $80,000   in. And it was just like, yeah. We got it. And then they shut his bank account down or, you know, his payment account because they were like,   you've only had, you know, a $100 here or $50. You know? And they just shut her down. And he was just like, I gotta pay my people. It's the holidays. How am I gonna pay my the all these people who just did all these sales for us for this launch? And and I'm just   people who just did all these sales for us for this launch?  

And and I'm just like, okay. One day, I wanna meet him and his wife, Leila. They're super they seem really, really neat, but they're Bitcoiners because that's the the super use case for business owners to know, like, try to have as much of your revenue come in that goes directly to your wallet, and you don't have the middleman. So tell us what happened with your family in Mexico and how they're being shut shut down. Just wanna say that they are definitely bit quarters. I hope that they know that now, but  

[00:33:08] Unknown:

if they don't and they're listening,   you're a bit you're a Bitcoiner. Yeah. Exactly.   Yeah. So something   not so similar, but kinda similar happened with my family. So pretty much they sold one of their properties. And   they had, like,   previously, like, a month ago, like, before this whole thing happened, they they had,   like, talked to the bank and they said, like, we're gonna have this transaction coming.   It's a bank amount. Like, you're like, they they did what they have to be done. They signed papers, etcetera.   The transaction is done and the banking   account is frozen.  

Oh my god. Yeah.   It was   very like, luckily, I like, it was really my dad dealing with the bank and everything, but it was very frustrating for me to even hear about it. And,   they got it solved within, like like, I think it was 4 to 5 days after That's bad.   Yes.   However,   they did say, like, they were literally, like, looking in pockets for, like, coins   to be able to, like, go buy food for the day. Like, in those 4 days, like, we're, like, who do I call to, like, ask for some cash, like, lens kinda thing. And it's like,   that's a terrible   situation when you're doing nothing wrong. You're and you advised it back way before.  

Like, I can only imagine   if because, you know, even so I think my family is doing pretty well. I can only imagine if if it was someone who had a child in a hospital or who have, like, someone sick or,   you know, an elderly monk who needs the help. Like, I think,   we   even though it's so unfair, we got off quite easy compared to what other people are experiencing   in those situations.  

[00:35:02] Unknown:

Yeah. It's terrifying. And you think, like, you know, I wanna touch on 2 things. We'll talk about the truckers protest in Canada, which obviously that whole thing happened up there,   so something super similar, obviously, a couple years ago. And when I heard that, I was just like, what do you mean you're shutting bank accounts down for people who donated $50 to these protesters? Like, these people need to go get milk for their kids. You can't shut their bank accounts down with your stupid executive order. So I was like, oh my god. If that's happening in Canada, where else can that happen? Right? And so   that was a monstrous, another nail in the coffin for me of, like, screw this old system. This is ridiculous. Like,   that's not okay to have that much power   over somebody's   well-being mentally and their food and everything. Oh, the electricity's off. Oops.  

I I can't get I can't store my medicine or whatever's going on. That's unacceptable.   And so   so that's, unfortunately,   the the path that we're on with CBDCs   and everybody wanting to have these, you know, these surveillance currencies and getting out of a cashless, you know, creating a cashless society. And so,   what are your thoughts on cash?   Like, do you think we still need to have paper cash?  

[00:36:14] Unknown:

That's a great question.   I wish I could just say no and be like, we should all just jump into a Bitcoin standard.   But   between cash and CBDCs,   I would vote for cash. And if people don't feel like they're ready to join a Bitcoin standard, I would at least advise them to not touch CBDCs.   Like,   and it would be I can only imagine, and this is like a complete hypothetical   thought that I just had. Like, how   hypocritical   and sad would it be if people who are not into Bitcoin because   they think it's too complex   got into CBDCs?   Like, how hard no.  



[00:37:00] Unknown:

Well and it's because they think like, oh, well, it's the government issued it so I can trust them. They're they have my back. And, oh, look. They gave me an extra $1,000   stimulus   check in the form of the CBDCs.   People need to get educated.   Efrat Pfennigsen is a huge you know, she does a lot of talks about CBDCs and just the dangers. She's wonderful. I mean, obviously, there's tons of us out there learning and talking about the dangers. But there was a post, I don't know if I think it was on Twitter recently that there was like a,   you know, there was a typhoon, I think, in China or something, and the Internet was out and, of course, the electricity is out, and   people couldn't pay for things on their phone, which is how they would typically pay for stuff. So they're like, how are we gonna get what we need? And so   going to a cashless society, I think, is super dangerous   on all these levels. And it doesn't mean, you know, you should be transacting everything in cash, but it needs to be an option   for when we have these types of situations. Right? And so there are certain, you know, cities and states and countries that are starting to try to create these cashless   society. Like, oh, you're not allowed to accept cash anymore. I think didn't Starbucks just say they're not accepting cash anymore?  



[00:38:10] Unknown:

I didn't hear that. It would be a shame if they did that. Like, why?  

[00:38:15] Unknown:

Why? You know? And it isn't it just Is it not a legal tender anymore, like or or what? I don't know. And I just I feel like it's it's it's it's all these little, you know, tiny 1,000 tiny cuts. Right? They say that's a death by a 1,000 cuts.   And so I just think, you know, as much as I'm a Bitcoiner and I want as many things to be on a Bitcoin standard as possible, I wanna make sure that we also have, god forbid, if we have some giant nuclear war with no power and the satellites are out or whatever, it's like, how are we gonna   maintain civility and and safety   and be able to transact with each other? You know? So I always, like it's like, have some cash in your life somewhere that is accessible that you don't have to drive to the bank and get it. Like, it's under your mattress for real. Like, be like grandma.  



[00:39:03] Unknown:

Yeah. Totally. I mean and even in the case, you know, of like   a,   a bank collapse, like, situation,  

[00:39:12] Unknown:

having some cash is always useful. I think, yeah, I completely agree. It is. And this doesn't need to be tens of just, you know, a couple $100, a $1,000, whatever. Just do something that you can at least get by for a while until hopefully things can get back online and and working okay. But   it's a tough one. I mean, I think   the education   is so important for folks like you and obviously everybody at Meet Premier and Block Rewards   and at the Learning Bitcoin Conference. And so,   what do you find? Like, I mean, you're obviously young and you're you've got into this at such a young age, so you don't have anything   to compare it to being in the old system of, you know, toxicity. Like, how do you find the culture of Bitcoin and Bitcoiners?  



[00:39:56] Unknown:

I love it. It's my favorite part about the Bitcoin space. Yeah.   You know, even like, I know Bitcoin will never go to 0, but even if it did, I feel like I gained so much from this space already.   As you said, it's all about, like, education and coming out of that, like, ignorance and, like, I am a product of whatever happens in the world to just being in control and, like, being part of the the world. Like, you don't have to   be controlling. You're just part of it. And I I love that. Most of the people that I found,   like,   have truly believed in me as, like,   in a professional way have come from the Bitcoin space, and I'm nothing but grateful for this this space. Yeah. Yeah.  

And there's something where humble people who are mean, and they're gonna be mean,   like, anyway, but there really are, like, just   a few.  

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And I think it what do you and so comparing,   you know, the Bitcoin community and obviously the the,   the younger folks in the Bitcoin community. Do you know Ella Hough? Yes. Yeah. She's I love her. Go Ella and Lisa. Like, everything they're doing over there too. I just watching what you, young, wonderful leaders of the future and now, are doing is so inspirational. You know? It's like, I want my children to follow you guys and my kids are not Bitcoiners yet. They're like, Mom's crazy. Go away.   They're starting to sort of catch on a little bit. My son is. My daughter is just like, Stop talking about me. And she just started college, you know. And so,   how are how do you how are you engaging with the younger community in in your area, like, at the meetups? Like, I know you said that folks seem depressed or they seem hopeless   and and everything. Like, are you finding that they're they're getting the lifeline that Bitcoin can offer them for their future?  



[00:41:42] Unknown:

Yes. Some of them. I,   I first wanna say thanks for mentioning Ella. She is actually one of the people who   I got a lot of inspiration for from and all her work is just outstanding.   So grateful for her and the Bitcoin student network.   As my personal experience here,   I love the UVic,   meet ups. Like, the students that come to the meet ups. Mhmm.   I really think that our people who are really starting to get it and really,   more than anything,   they're   have empathy I find.   So I think that,   like, a lot of people who are very close minded   have this, like, mentality,   especially in, like, my generation Mhmm. Of, like,   I have to be rich or, like, I have to,   like, own certain things and blah blah. And, like, I just find that people who come to specifically the UVic meetups,   are people who are there to serve or who want to create value in the world. We're not, like,   just getting there for, like, quick money.  

But there's few.   We're not the majority definitely. Like, in UVic, specifically, we're not the majority,   but that's why I get so excited every time that I'm there and there I see the group grow a little bit. Yeah. That's gotta feel really rewarding and nice that you're you're  

[00:43:07] Unknown:

developing that community there as well.   Do you guys have any plans? I know Ella got something pushed through to have a like a degree or something. I know she's doing her degree. Like, is there anything and what was the other? Was it Wyoming?   Yes. There was another university. Was it Wyoming that got something with the Bitcoin? Yes. So are you guys trying to, you know,   use that playbook to see if there's any way that you can get some type of Bitcoin education into the the curriculum there? We're definitely pushing.  

[00:43:38] Unknown:

It would be awesome if we could   create a degree   about Bitcoin.   The interest from the university is not really there at the moment. However,   we,   there's   one teacher, her name is Soren. His name is Soren. Sorry.   He has a module on Bitcoin at the end of its course,   and   it ran for the first time last semester. So it's the first on campus   actual, like, official Bitcoin education.   But we're definitely pushing, and we're not gonna stop.  

[00:44:14] Unknown:

I love it. Well, I think about were were you in Madera?   No. I I was Is it Michael Sailor did a really great   presentation of, you know, always as he does great stuff. But, you know, he was talking about, you know, nonprofits and universities because, obviously, universities why do universities last for 100 of years? Right? It's because they've got these endowments. They've got these foundations that are associated with it. Imagine what those universities could do if there was 1% of Bitcoin on those   balance sheets there and watch how that grows compared to all the other investments that they're making. And so   I wonder if there's a way to, you know, get a hold of whoever's in charge of that and just do sort of, like, if you would have been holding Bitcoin for the last 15 years, this is what your endowment would look like compared to what your current, you know,   investments look like. And so, again and, you know, you're turning all this complex data into something easier for us to digest, but it's like when you see that visual, it's like,   oh, maybe that's a good idea. And then all of a sudden, the faculty is like, maybe we should start learning about this Bitcoin thing, and maybe we want Bitcoin in our retirement, and maybe we should have a diploma or a, you know, a degree.  

So   so it's like whoever's got the most money to gain from Bitcoin   is these managers of of these the endowments, so maybe that could be a fun  

[00:45:28] Unknown:

meeting. Be a fun demo. That's what it is for sure. I'll, like, be stalking who who's in that role.  

[00:45:36] Unknown:

Yeah. And, I mean and it's like, look at,   oh my god. My brain's dying right now.   In Santa Monica,   firefighter, oh, come on. My brain is dying. He helped the pension the firefighters get their pension, Don Bay. They're, you know, getting the pension funds on for the firefighters. And so now Santa Monica is starting to put it on the city, and so it and they're doing the whole event. So it's just like   just takes a little bit, and then everybody's like, oh, it's so cool. And then you can start educating the whole faculty and all the the the   people there. So   I don't know. I just love what you're doing. I think it's so cool, and I'm so glad. Thanks again, Tristan. Like, Tristan's the best. Yeah.  



[00:46:14] Unknown:

Yeah. Big shout out to Tristan. And, yeah, it's very nice to see, like, the domino effects of everything,   especially considering how Bitcoin really started by everybody being a volunteer.  

[00:46:25] Unknown:

I that's, like, my most exciting part is, like, how did this, like, giant thing came to be and everybody's just working because they're passionate about it. Yeah. It's like this I I call us, you know, just, like, we're all love warriors. Right? We're on this big mission to, like, make the world a better place. We're, like, screw the system. It's not working,   you know, and and   people are waking up. And it's, like, 1 by 1, we're getting this, like, tap on the shoulder of of   of let's come forward together. You know? And and   I know I've never been in   an environment, a community, a culture where   everybody's, like, a full on, fuck yeah. Let's go. You know? It's just like   and there's it's it's like we're competitive to the degree that we wanna make the whole world better and ourselves better. It's not like, oh, I wanna put you down and you suck, and I'm gonna go up here. It's like, no, how can we get all the the boats to rise, you know, with that rising tide? And I've just never even in the music industry, it's totally not like that. It's too per cutthroat, like, uh-uh, get away over here. You don't so so I just I think it's   it is the consciousness. It's the conscious money. It's the energy of this money, I think, that is opening up our spirits and connecting our hearts to each other and connecting us to this vision for the future. And   it's tangible. Even though it's digital, it's tangible.  

You know? And that's why I think,   you know, I I always talk about, like, you know, the Woodstock generation   was amazing. Right? Like, they had the, you know, the freedom and the peace movement and everything, but they didn't have sound money.   Imagine if the Woodstock generation had sound money. What could have happened with all of that   that frustration and that anger against Vietnam and all the injustices that were going on? And I wonder what could have happened then. But so I look at us now. It's like we're the we're the new Woodstock generation.   You know? And we're the new warriors. We're the new freedom fighters, and oh, I have goosebumps.  

So good. Thank you, Sidoji.   Do you have any final how can people find you? Do you have any final thoughts you want I wanna tell people where to find you, and then I wanna ask you just a closing question.  

[00:48:32] Unknown:

Yeah. I mean, you can find me in Twitter. You can find me at learn in big quest, September 28th.   Mhmm. I think I   just wanna, like, encourage everybody, like, to come and to bring their friends and families. Even if you think that they're gonna be, like, bored and hate you because, like, it's a Bitcoin event and they're not really into Bitcoin,   like, this is really the place to,   or it's build your friends and meet them where they're at.   Just like I wish I had the accessibility   to this kind of events and resources even like online. Like I've just   like, yeah, I love the accessibility   that we, new commerce, have into the space today. And that's just my the last that I would say. I love it. It's so cool. Yeah. And make sure you guys go to learning bitcoin.ca.  



[00:49:17] Unknown:

You can follow Daniella, Dani atdani,   v h e, on x. And then make sure you go check out her,   her blog at theledgerchronicles.substack.com.   So I wanna ask you a final question, Dani.   Where where where do you see   yourself   in 20 years from now in this community and with your big dream on planet Earth?  

[00:49:41] Unknown:

Yeah.   That's an awesome question because I often think about the 5 to 10 year   plan 20 years from now. That's a that's a long way.   I can only hope and, like, well, that's not a hope. I'm definitely gonna be in the Bitcoin space, but I can only hope we   make a   bringing value to the world with the Bitcoin space.   I definitely   want to keep on, like, the education side of it and onboarding   as many people as I can.   I know it's frustrating and I definitely get, like, annoyed   sometimes,   but   it is like what I think my mission in this world is. Yeah. So in 20 years, definitely hope to   just keep being this positive   about it and having this same excitement when other people are in like,   coming into the space. Like yeah.  



[00:50:41] Unknown:

It's awesome. Do you do you envision it, like I mean, because if you think about 20, 30 years ago, you know, the Internet was just coming on, you know, and people are like, what's an what's an at symbol or a dotcom? Like, we were all just like you know? And, obviously, there was, like, Internet conferences   going on. There's no more of those now because everybody uses it. It's ubiquitous.   Do you envision   in 20 years' time that we're gonna have Bitcoin be ubiquitous and we're not we don't need to have Bitcoin conferences anymore?  

[00:51:06] Unknown:

I think there's always gonna be Bitcoin conferences, at least I hope in my lifetime, even if it's just like,   you know, like, what is happening in the world now? Like Yeah. I think it'll just be more about, like,   the whole world, not just Bitcoin because Bitcoin is going to be everywhere.   So, yeah, I do hope that most people   then have   at least a wallet.   Like   yeah. Yeah. I love it. Long ways to go. It's hard to imagine, but I can only imagine better things.  

[00:51:39] Unknown:

Me too. I know it's like the unimaginable   is gonna be there, which I my heart is huge and filled with hope. And   and, I always call Bitcoin hope in action. It's not just a philosophy. It's actually the proof of work. It's just something's happening. It's real. Totally.  

[00:51:54] Unknown:

I just see it as, like, the opportunity  

[00:51:56] Unknown:

to rewrite our consciousness kind of thing. Yeah. I love it. Oh, my God. This is great. I'm so glad to meet you. This has been amazing. I hope it was good for you and I hope you, you know, I know you said yeah. So grateful.  

[00:52:09] Unknown:

Thank you so much. Thank you.  

[00:52:12] Unknown:

Well, everybody, thank you guys so, so much for tuning in, and make sure you guys go follow Dani   and, get yourself up to the the conference. Even if you can't get there, tell your friends about it up in Canada and make sure that they can go there. And, we'll be in touch soon. But until next time, everybody, peace, love and warm aloha. And thanks again, Dani, for everything. And thank you, Tristan, and, much love to everybody out there. I hope you're doing well. I know the world is a little bit crazy, but   you know what? That's why we got love. So let's tune into that frequency.  

All right, everybody. Aloha.