In this episode, I am thrilled to welcome Monika Bravo, an extraordinary artist, Bitcoiner, and evolutionary astrologer. Monika shares her fascinating journey from Bogota, Colombia, to becoming a professional artist in New York, and eventually moving to Miami Beach. She discusses her unique approach to art, which is deeply intertwined with her spiritual practices and her quest for understanding the nature of reality.
Monika opens up about her experiences with public art installations, including her notable work at Grand Central Station in New York. She explains how her art serves as a platform for community engagement and personal reflection, emphasizing the importance of creating art that resonates with the public.
We delve into Monika's exploration of astrology and her perspective on truth-seeking, discussing how her understanding of astrology has evolved over the years. Monica also shares insights into her upcoming book, which weaves together her artistic journey, philosophical inquiries, and her understanding of Bitcoin as a state of consciousness.
In a captivating segment, Monika provides a personalized astrological reading for me, offering profound insights into my life path, challenges, and opportunities for growth. We explore the themes of freedom, self-trust, and the importance of aligning with one's true purpose.
Monika's passion for art, astrology, and Bitcoin shines through as she discusses her future projects and her commitment to empowering others through her work. This episode is a rich tapestry of art, spirituality, and personal growth, offering listeners a unique perspective on how these elements can intersect to create a fulfilling life.
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(00:01:00) Introduction to Monica Bravo
(00:02:13) Monica's Artistic Journey
(00:05:09) Public Art and Community Impact
(00:09:55) Truth Seeking and Personal Growth
(00:15:10) Bitcoin and Consciousness
(00:18:48) Artistic Process and Philosophy
(00:27:21) Challenges and Feedback in Public Art
(00:33:26) Spiritual Insights and Personal Experiences
(00:40:38) Astrology and Personal Transformation
(00:53:28) Monica's Book and Future Projects
(01:09:44) Astrology Reading for Valerie
(01:42:32) Human Design and Personal Insights
(01:56:39) Monica's Upcoming Projects and Reflections
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Unknown:
Hey, aloha. Get ready for an epic episode. And if you love it, please share it. You know why? Because you got the love. Enjoy, my friends. Hey. Aloha, love tribe. Welcome to the show. I have somebody here with me who I've actually been following for a few years on Twitter. She is an insanely beautiful artist. She's a Bitcoiner and an evolutionary evolutionary astrologer. This is Monica Bravo. Welcome.
[00:01:17] Unknown:
Hi, Valerie. I'm so excited to be here.
[00:01:20] Unknown:
I'm excited to have you. This is gonna be a, this is gonna be a first for me to do a show like this. So we're gonna obviously focus on you, focus on your background and everything, but you offered to do a little interactive experience. And I was like, okay. Let's check this out. So
[00:01:37] Unknown:
Trust me. Don't be nervous because you wrote about being nervous. I get it. But I'll be I'll be holding space for you so you whatever I need to, bring to you comes from spirit, and it's something that you probably need to hear today. So that's all. Awesome. Well, thank you so much. Well, so, you know, I remember,
[00:01:55] Unknown:
before I'd I I'm gonna why don't you why why don't you introduce yourself, and then I'm gonna we're I wanna talk about your your the art installation you did at, was it Grand Central Station, right, in New York? Yeah. We'll we'll talk about that next. But why don't you, let everybody know who you are and what's your scoop, and then we'll we'll get into the the nuts and bolts of everything.
[00:02:14] Unknown:
Perfect. So, I'm Monica Bravo. I was born 60 years ago in Bogota, Colombia. That's South America. I'm not a Latina. I'm from South America. I'm joking. I moved to the United States 30 years ago this week. So I moved to Wow. Yeah. And I came to New York to be an artist. That was on my 30th birthday, and it was great. I loved, the idea of being an artist in New York. I actually did not go to art school and that make a very big difference because I was not indoctrinated by the work matrix agenda that is so much in vogue right now. Mhmm. I, decided to go and try it out. That doesn't mean that I'm not educated. It means that I I use empirical practice to understand my world around. And so I just was making art and I got into the network of of working with people and, and started a practice. And so I've been a professional artist for 30 years. That means that I make a living off my art.
But, the interesting thing is also, like, I define, like, a whole language of of art. Those years in New York were very defining, but also, my spiritual world kind of opened up. I always been very mystical since I was little, but it was in New York where I actually decided to do make it into a practice where I seeked for teachers. And I started practices with the Taoist Taoist teacher for 12 years doing martial arts, but mostly a training my mind. Did Kabbalah, did, whole Zen Buddhism, you know, Zen Buddhist, but but the whole shebang. I just wanted to understand the nature of reality.
So that's what happened in New York. And then I escaped the matrix, that's what I call New York, in 2020. After I I had a dream, I actually wanted to leave because the the 2010s, I I realized that, New York had become this place like fake it till you make it, and it was very not it was very phony for me to be there because there was a part of myself that was not really resonating with the the the inner and the outer. And I didn't wanna be in a place where people are very transactional, not that I'm not. You know, I'd like to do transactions and trade, but in the way that you're you're using people, your people are using you as an opportunity so the whole networking thing was something that I completely pushed, away and that also made me push away the people who had been dealing my work, so the middleman.
Because I'm still asking a lot of questions about value. I'm very connected to the sense of value. So I was asking different questions like, why do I have to sign this contract? Why are you getting so much? Are you gonna pay me for the production cost? Like, why are you giving, discounts? Who is paying for the so overall, dealers, they started working with me. They loved me at the very beginning, but halfway through it, they they always have the same thing to say. Like, Monica, you're great. Your work is great, but I think you will be better off managing your own self. So that made me snuck all the time because I said, oh, they actually want easy people they can manage. So that made me think a lot about value and and what was my place in the world.
So I moved here, Miami Beach, after I had a dream and that was 2020, pandemic, and I just, realized that I had a very good time, enough time to inquire things that I wanted to do. Also, I have to say that as an artist, I've been doing a lot of public art. So I am hired by governments, states, universities, subway stations, airports, all kinds of stuff. I've been doing that for a while. And, basically, they give me a bunch of money that comes from taxpayers. Thank you, everybody that's paying taxes. And they give me the opportunity to create something that is actually what the community needs. So I I involve myself in doing a lot of research about what the community needs. Sometimes I do workshops and then it takes time because then I have to hire, I make all the designs and production.
And then I usually hire people in Germany, Italy with mosaics or or glass or when it's I do it myself. So that's in in a nutshell. And, obviously, I've been doing other sorts of languages. Like, I've been interested in astrology since I was little. I bought that book of astrology. I mean, I have a whole story in my book, how how I came into astrology. It was very funny. And so I started inquiry about, philosophical questions when my father died. I was 8. And, I did not understand how come the nuns, Catholic nuns, had come up with the idea that he was already in heaven the day after he died. He died, from a car crash. So I was like, how does that work? I mean, did you get a telegram? Like, and they wouldn't answer. So I said to my mom, mom, I know they were hurting, but I'm not going back to that school of crazy nuns. There were American nuns. They were torturers. So I just left the school, and I went to a school where no religion was gonna be taught. And I started reading all the books that my father left in his library were all about, philosophy, what's happening out there. So he was also a seeker of truth, and so I identified with his write with his readings. And he used to underline the books.
So I started reading what he was underlying. So I was reading Nietzsche, Jung, Schopenhauer since I was, like, 11 years old. So I always been very connected to, wisdom. But I have realized that wisdom is not in the books. It's in the experience of embodying our own truth. So that's just my
[00:07:30] Unknown:
In your, in your artist statement, you talk about you're not a truth seeker anymore. Yeah. And and is that can you talk can you expand on that a little bit here because it seems like that's the thread that that's the connector there about experiential truth versus someone else's version of truth?
[00:07:46] Unknown:
Yeah. So when you're a seeker, it's almost like you're a pilgrim that you decide that you need to live where you're you're very comfortable, family and land, and you get on a horse, like, you know, I'm thinking mythologically. You you just go into a horse and you just, you know, take a couple of things in your arch and your, and your arrows. You know? And you go, okay. I'm gonna seek something, and you just go from town to town, meeting people, experiencing things, eating different foods, speaking different languages, understanding that culture in different places are different, and so you start seeing a relationship between yourself and the other from a different perspective.
So this is a very much aligned with the architect of of, Sagittarius or or Jupiter, which is the true seeker. We're seeking something. And the whole word of seeking, actually doesn't make you arrive anywhere because if you're in a constant seeking, you nothing is ever enough. So I arrived to the point when I moved to Miami Beach that I realized that I had been seeking all my life. I spoke I learned how to speak several languages. That's also part of, like, becoming a polyglot is, like, trying to understand the culture of other places, trying to understand other perspectives. And then I realized that it was not about quantity of information, but rather, like, quality of embodiment.
And I have started being more connected to the body my body and what my body needed and how to make make sense of it and how to integrate and synthesize this knowledge that is through the lived experience that I can actually come to terms
[00:09:16] Unknown:
with the person that I came to be. So that's when I started writing I'm no longer seeking, but I'm embodying my own wisdom or truth. Just Unless I wanna unpack that a little bit and we'll talk about this with your book because I'm really curious about your book. It looks It's so gorgeous. You sent me the Vimeo, little clip. I'm like, Wow, this is really beautiful. I can't wait to touch it and look at it and all. I mean, I love font and color and just the way that things are positioned. I was like, Woah, this is gonna be an awesome book. I can't wait. I wanna go back to seeking and truth seeking because I call myself a truth seeker, and I and and I think there's a couple ways that my brain interprets truth seeking. Right? There's truth seeking on an individual, like, Who am I? Why am I here? What's my authentic role as a human being on planet Earth, right? And so, I believe that that truly does come from within and that does come from lived experiences like you're saying. And on the other, you know, definition for me that I think of with truth seeker, you know, since I became a Bitcoiner, I mean, I've always been somebody who's just, you know, question systems and question, you know, the way that the world is working right now, you know, and I just always think I'm like, that smells like bullshit to me, you know? I've got a huge bullshit radar up here in my nose, you know?
And so I think even more so becoming a Bitcoiner and getting into this, you know, new way of thinking about life and money and value and energy and community and how are we interacting with each other, you know, the more I look at these old systems, I'm just like, Oh my god, like, lie after lie after lie. And so, I'm always wondering, like, where are the threads that the truth can actually come out so that not only us as Bitcoiners and and, you know, creatives and whatnot, but the rest of the world can see the reality of the system
[00:11:07] Unknown:
that they're being you know, the matrix that they're in. And and so can you talk about that a little bit? Because I think there's a, you know, there might be a little bit of a difference and maybe I'm I don't know. Well, not not really. And your chart we're gonna talk about your chart because you have a lot of the tree seeking there. It's actually probably the reason why we're resonating right now. We're meeting today because of that. That is really there, and that's probably why you put some attention to it in my in my website. So the interesting thing is, like, Bitcoin has become such an incredible way for me to synthesize all my practices. I I call Bitcoin a state of consciousness because it meets you where you are at. Yep. Bitcoin meets you only where you're at and then it requires you proof of work. It requires that you take an action, human action, to actually enter into that seeking and then find out how you embody that knowledge, that technology, and therefore how we are going to move towards a new civilization using the principles of the basic principles of life. So that for me is is is how I see all this seeking. And, again, I started embodying, more that truth when I found Bitcoin and understanding that this was not just technology about money, but it was more about value. I was looking I got into Mhmm. Bitcoin because of I've been I've been working a lot in my chart. I have to understand what value is. And so we are very much taught about, you know, have security. Like, when you talk to people who have, like, steady jobs, they always say, I cannot quit my job because I don't have benefits.
And they're thinking about all the things they're gonna lack, but they cannot actually, focus on what they actually have as a human being, that their own resources and assets that actually can make them become independent, free, and perhaps able to, make a whole living without having to wait for other people to give them, what they need. Now I'm not saying that everybody was born to become, like, an entrepreneur or or a entrepreneur or an artist because it's it's it's not what I'm saying, but what I'm saying is, like, we have or we're breaking and this is one of the things that I find fascinating with Bitcoiners is that we're breaking the chains of what was supposed to be happening in society and we are aware of it. Also, I have a theory because I've been doing a lot of charts for Bitcoiners that there's we carry the torch of understanding what trauma is. And our trauma that we understand is a trauma that comes from a lot of generations where power was overused in the in in a terrible way and I'm saying that each one of us also contribute to that trauma. But now the our awareness and our light is to really say, you know, we have another opportunity, we we're creating this new technology that is actually gonna in a way repair, I don't like that word too much, but in a way kind of come to terms that we can make it different this time because we still haven't made it but we could.
So the idea of like finding our own truth is like when you find your own authentic self, when you are okay in your shoes, when you love yourself, when you integrate your inner child, when you do all the work, you can actually contribute in a way that is voluntarily and happily and you don't have to create violence. You know? You're gonna respect the property of your neighbor. You're actually going to to understand that the principles are the most important things. I always say that the principles in in Latin principles is the base. It's the it's the beginning. But then look at the principles like the chart when you look at time, and then look at the integrity like the chart of the price. So everybody has principles some somehow, but then the integrity is where we're gonna bend. So it is important that we understand that we start from first principles, but then each person individually will have to do a lot of work, not only with money, but trauma, emotional, integration. And then we kind of, like, are gonna be able to overcome the generational drama and trauma that we came from. And so that's why I think that Bitcoin is such an incredible opportunity.
But, again, not everybody has to do the same thing. That's the beauty of Bitcoin.
[00:15:10] Unknown:
Yeah. And I think that's also the beauty as we think about our our our personal, you know, transformation, right, and and our metaphor you know, you're you're committed to the transformation and metamorphosis, you say, on your site, and and I am too. I'm a constant, like, how can we keep evolving and growing and always growing? My very first web domain that I bought was called alwaysgrowing. And I wish I would have kept it because I was like, Oh, I wanted to go do personal growth stuff with it and I didn't know anything about setting up a website. This was back in the late nineties. You know? And, anyway but but I feel like as a Bitcoiner, right, when and, obviously, as an artist and as a, a spiritual person, like, there's no destination.
There's no destination of like, I'm here. I'm done. You know, this it's this constant rabbit hole journey of of moving in through like, woah. So this part of my life is gonna have like a light shined on it now or shown on it, And I get to heal here. I get to start learning more about community here. And so, I know it's been just such an unexpected journey becoming a Bitcoiner because I just didn't realize how spiritual it was, you know, and I never thought of money as like having consciousness or a spiritual component to it, you know. Like, do you know who Lynn Twist is? No. She wrote a really wonderful book called The Soul of Money. And so it was her journey in, you know, this corporate y kind of stuff and then turning into more of the consciousness of money and whatnot.
And, she's somebody who I definitely wanna interview. I don't know if she's a Bitcoiner yet. I mean, everyone will be eventually. Yeah. It's always a yet, right? Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, I wanna talk about the art component of your life because, you know, you've done a lot of public art installations, and I'm really passionate about public art and I'm passionate. Gaudi, when I went to Park Guell, that changed my life forever. Forever. And I was and I love mosaics. I like I don't know. You can see it somewhere. I have a little I made that little thing, and I'm not, like, a hardcore artist. I'm a dabbler artist, but I love art. Obviously, I love creativity. I love self expression. And it was just such a gorgeous, way for people to come together fluidly, you know, in nature, and it was permanent. You know? And so I wanna talk about your public art and, like, what has it been like for you going from maybe, you know, not doing what's, you know, not public art to public art and how has it transformed
[00:17:38] Unknown:
you as an artist and how has it, you know, what's the impact that it's left on the folks who've gotten to be a part of your public art? I'm gonna pull up your website and show it right at that right now. Is that okay? Yeah. Yeah. You can show the one at Grand Central, and then if you scroll afterwards down, I think the one that is very beautiful is a police station and and yeah. That's 1. Yeah. And then 2 or 3 down, there's a police station. It's called Unas Mundus or even the airport. So I'm gonna speak a little bit about it. So so great. Thank you. So when I when I realized that I I was completely devoted to public art, that was probably 12 years ago or something like that, I realized that I was going to be of service. I also say that I'm of service because Mhmm. When you create for a community, you are not creating for a person with a last name and a first name. You're creating a a component that is gonna be part of their lives whether they're traveling there, they're sitting down, they're I mean, it it's gonna be part of their psych psyche. Right? Yes.
And so I always feel that it's such an honor to be able to be given the opportunity to create something where I can listen about the needs of that community and then I can come back and just do my channeling and I create the work. I'm very structured when I create work. I'm I'm not like like I allow a lot of ideas to come through and then I have this very discerning mind that knows what needs to stay or not. I love to experiment with new materials, so I'm always the 1st to try something new. Now when you do commissions, people wanna make sure that you can make make it. People, they give you a lot of money so they wanna make sure you're not gonna run away with a with a whole lot. They they wanna make sure that you're able to create one idea and then make it happen because you're alone producing the work. You're you're giving full, like, reign of of the whole project for a couple of years. So I started doing I think I remember the first time that somebody wanted a commission that was in 2005. My my my galleries back then, he called me, says, hey. These people want I think it's the hotel of, there's a hotel the Peninsula Hotel in Hong Kong, and they wanted a specific job, like, piece. I think it's still there in the elevator. And I remember being like, I don't wanna work for anybody. I don't want people to tell me what to do. And he laughed when he came back and he goes, Monica, let's put it this What about this? What about you do what you want and they pay you? And I said, how can I make sure that I do what I want? And then we we kind of sorted out, and I said, maybe if I do a proposal and they pay me for the proposal. So that's what happens. When peep people can still commission me, I I tend to have more bigger commissions from, like, institutions, but I I'm for hire for, like, private commissioners. But I do have some requirements. I want to make sure that the person's gonna take care of the work afterwards because I've been corporations to just basically trash the work just because it's it's like I don't know.
I don't understand, but because the public work, they actually take care of it. So I I have a commitment to the work, takes 1, 2 years sometimes to be able to make it, and so I am very in tune with what the the community needs. This is really my main thing. Now I love playing with color. If I tell you that I started as black and white photographer in the eighties, you will not believe it. I stay Oh my god. No way. I was a portrait and fashion photographer in Europe, and it's all black and white. I actually was very good. That's how I got the visa to get to this country. I came as a outstanding alien as a photographer. But once I landed here in 9 1994, I said, I don't wanna be a photographer. So I went back to school just to experiment, and I was standing in the loft of a very famous artist. It was a sub Japanese, and he was a video artist from Israel. You you already passed.
And, the person that we were staying we were just a bunch of kids staying in this beautiful loft in Soho. And so one of them just broke into, like, his archives, and we had all these video machines. So I just pick up whatever. I mean, I he I told him later. I was, like, embarrassed to tell him because we ended up being in an exhibition. He goes like, okay. So I sacrificed those cameras because you became this person. It was through his equipment. So I started, kind of playing with video, and I really enjoyed the idea of making moving images. But I knew then that I wanted to do multi discipline. I didn't want it to just stay with photography or just animation to experience and experiment. And I was very blessed to have the opportunity to do that, to be able to earn a living, and to have actually, people who who come and say they want my work. So now I'm I know why, but at the beginning, I couldn't believe it. I was like, are they crazy?
Because I I didn't go to art school. I don't believe in in academia. I think that they the people that come out, they're just serving the regime, and they're not really making the work that is coming from their soul, from their spirit. And they're just like little cut you know, cut cookie cutter things that are, I don't relate to that anymore.
[00:22:27] Unknown:
Oh my god. I I love hearing this because, you know, I I agree. I I feel like especially art and music, like, I never went to to DJ school or music school. It's like I'm the vibe goddess, and so my whole job is to tune in to, like, the energy of the music and the energy of the people and how does this flow together and does it light me up? Because if it lights me up, it's gonna light them up. And and so and if it doesn't light me up, I'm gonna be bored, and this is not gonna be fun for any of us. You know? It's not gonna be fun. It is no joy. Yeah. And I I remember I did some corporate gigs, you know, and I did some weddings just to make some extra money, and it was just like, oh my god. I feel like I'm eating, like, sweet and low saccharin packets of not me. Like, it wasn't me, and I'm like, I'm not doing this. Like, this isn't for me. So I'm only gonna do it if it comes from my heart and my soul. And and, obviously, I wanna refine my craft and learn, you know, and it's like, how does this go together? And do these, you know, keys go well and whatnot? But it's more like I want my intuition in my heart and my soul to meet be the captain of the whole experience. And it sounds like for you, you did that in addition to, obviously, how does this work? How do I do a video projector here? And how do I map it? And how do I do this textile?
And how do I make this cool thing go over here on this screen to here? Like, it's so much fun. Right? It's infinite canvas.
[00:23:51] Unknown:
At the very beginning, I have to say it was very funny. At the very beginning, I had to make a living when I stayed in New York. So I had x amount of money when I arrived, and then I knew. So I did get a job with a photographer. She's an artist, and she's still good friend of mine. She's, like, 20 years my senior. Love her very much. And, she needed, like, a studio manager, and I had already had a career as a as a photographer. So I said, you know, I can do something that is really ABC. So we ended up, like, I ended up, like, making a living and stuff like that. But then I started that's when I started, like, experimenting. And I forgot what I was gonna say. Oh, yeah. So she was doing also wedding photography on the site. And so I was managing her wedding photography, but I was like, she's charging so little. I'm so, like, bold with prices. Like, I'm like, why not? Good. Yeah. Like, I was putting it up, and she was like, they're never gonna pay me. I was like, just watch. And she had, like, very high end clients. You know? JPMorgan vice presidents of this and this and that. So I was like, alright. This so one day, one of these bankers came, and she said, do you do video? And she says, no. I don't, but Monica does. I had just, like, started making, like, moving images, and I turned around and I said, you know, like a makeup face. She goes, you can do it. And then she said, how much do you charge? So I didn't wanna do it.
I didn't wanna do it. So I said the most insane number. And then and Maxine looked at her, like she was like, what are you doing? Because, you know, this is her client, and I'm and and then I go, like, whatever, like, something like that. She goes, do you accept the deposit? And I'm like, yeah. And then I asked for, like, half of it, and she said yes, and my ex boss was asking for the minimum. I kept on saying, your your deposit is ridiculous. I mean, you're booked, like, 1 year before, and you're just having, what, $200? Are you crazy? You have to at least have and she wrote me a check, and then she left, and she goes, what was that? And I said, first of all, this was your idea. I didn't wanna do this. But now with this check, I can buy the equipment. And then I'm gonna call my best friend that I think she's going to film school, and we're just gonna do the so we did videos for, like, 3 years.
Charge so much money. I there were funny videos. I no interview. I was like, we're arts artist. What what are we gonna get? Are you gonna get something really funky? So we ended up doing this video. I learned a lot to edit and deliver and be doing proof of work because you were giving a lot of money at the beginning. But after a while, there was an there an agent call us, and we had a chat with my friend then. And do you wanna do this? And I said, I actually don't want to pursue it this way because then I'm gonna stop being an artist. So that's the moment I actually, like, say, no. My heart is in the art, but it Yeah. Paid me off. Like, we bought all the equipment and everything that I needed. So computers, everything. So that was a funny story. I know. And, like, sometimes you have those learning chapters. Right? And you never know, especially,
[00:26:36] Unknown:
like, you're like, no. They're never gonna say yes. And it's like, oh, shit. No. I gotta do it. And then it's like, spirit was like, nope. You're coming over here. You're gonna go do all this whole thing. And so what a cool journey. Right? And you didn't back out and say, no. Never mind. Psych. And so that was really I mean, I applaud you for that, you know, to say yes to that and continue down that path for 3 whole years. And I'm sure that it totally influenced your technical ability and all the other stuff that you've, you know, created at scale. Let's go back to the public art though, Liz. I wanna I'm curious if there's have you had any experiences in any of your installations where, you know, whether it was a corporate thing or a park or the subways or anything where, you know, people are gathering where you got feedback that you weren't expecting?
Like in a bad way, like like ugly feedback? No. No. No. Just more like, oh, my gosh. This you know, whatever. Any feedback that you were just like, wow. I didn't know that somebody would have that experience with my art. Because here's the thing. There's some
[00:27:34] Unknown:
it's it's very interesting. I've written a little bit about it, and I don't think it's in the book, but I've written about, like, the power of being of service with a medium that you don't know who's gonna be the receiver. Mhmm. Because when you, for instance, create art and you have an exhibition, museum show, and somebody buys it, whether it's a museum or the collector, you end up meeting the person. Even if for just say thank you. I mean, there there's there's so knowledge about the name of the person or, like, with the collection or something else. So there's there's somebody with the name and last name or or or presence. Right? Mhmm. The repeat and all that. But when you do public art, you don't know how many people and who and what and how they're gonna feel. So my intention when I create the art is always how I want the people to feel. Like, I want them to have a sense of awe, where I want to surprise them, I give them joy, like, I I put that intention. So I know that even if one soul passes by a day and gets that energy and that, you know, resonance of what I'm I've been putting into the work, I will be very happy. I don't feel it. So I have, however, a lot of these works, they have a plaque and they have a name and, you know, I'm Googleable, very easy. So people find me on on Instagram. Sometimes they send me images and they say, oh my god. I I love that you did the subway station. For instance, I have one in Brooklyn.
And, they usually tell me there's not a date that doesn't pass in by by pass by that I don't discover something new. So what I say is that I create platforms for people to be able to reconnect to themselves. So that's what my the purpose of my work. And so it is not required for me to be a witness of that because I already did the work. The work is out there. It's a platform. If you want to come back and tell me how you felt, it's beautiful for me to receive it, but it's not a requirement. So when I do and I actually love when people, connect back to me and say I heard you say this or I saw you say this and and you brought this and as I always go, like, tell me more about what you were feeling because this is really what I want to initiate and igniting people their own sense of power. So this one is, this is very interesting piece because I was called to do, like a sculpture or like a mobile because I've written when I applied for this that I was gonna make one. So when I got hired, there's a very big, commission for the East Boston Police Department, they said, Monica, you wrote that you were gonna make some hanging, sculpture. And I said, yes. And they said, do you know how to do it? And I said, no.
Quiet. I'm on a Zoom. And they go, how are you gonna do it? And I said, you give me the money, I hire the best people. And they all laughed and they said, okay. We're gonna get you. So I ended up doing this, hire the best people. I did all the design. I I'm very I'm on top of my production, so I know what I want. And this was beautifully done. And and and so their words, like, this is police department. This is 2020. Everybody wants to defund the police. All my ex friends from New York call me a traitor because I'm working for the state. You know, the whole thing. And I was like, dude, I mean, this is like half a $1,000,000.
You're gonna say no to the opportunity not the money, the opportunity to create something meaningful for the community room where, like, there are people clashing. And so I ended up making these beautiful, workshops for the community. There are many of them are from El Salvador. This is in East Boston and Colombia. And so I I put together policemen and people from the community so we could learn about dialogue. During 2020, I did a lot of workshops with Gabor Mate and Peter Levine. Like, I I did Oh my god. I know. Oh, wow. All of that. So I learned how to, facilitate and hold space and understand what dialogue really means.
And, so I was training for that, part because of this. I I started it before, but I understood. Oh, now I know why I did that. So I ended up having these workshops where I we we made, like, mobiles in paper where we're expressing our feelings towards one another but not the way they the wolf expressed their feelings like, oh, you you know, I'm hurt. You shouldn't say this. The other way around is when you empower yourself and you say, you know, I don't feel comfortable with this. Maybe we should talk about this later. Like, you know, a little bit of nonviolent communication, maybe you know about that. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. So I created this, and it was it was great. I ended up installing it, I think, 2 months ago. I got call from somebody else from Boston. They love it so much. They so we're in talks right now to make another thing somewhere in Boston because they just say, every time we go there, it's just, like, so magical. So, I mean, you not imagine. This is a police station. I mean, This is all color. So that's what I wanted to give them the possibility to understand that maybe through dialogue, we could talk to one another. The the mobiles are made out of words. So I use words that are very important for, like, service. So one is service, the other one is courage, the other one is, embodiment, and, the other one is vocation, which is one of my favorite words because it means a calling. When you have a calling to do something, then you can channel that energy. So, yeah, that's that's that piece and there's mosaic there. Oh my god.
I just I do a lot of I I just play. That's what I do. Like, I just have fun. When I'm I'm in my studio, I'm just having fun. And the book is the same thing. Like, everything is just for me to be able to to channel joy, color, and to be able to to remind people that we're all light. And, you know, right now, we need a lot of light in this world, I have to say. We need so much light. We need more color, more light, more connectivity.
[00:32:53] Unknown:
I mean, I think, you know, I always say that the powers that be are constantly trying to to make us numb, dumb, sick, scared, broke, angry, hungry, lonely, tired, and horny. And that way, we can be distracted. And so instead of, you know, focusing on what the truth is inside, which to me is love and God, spirit, universe, whatever, you know, words we like to use, you know, we're being so easily distracted and our hormones and chemicals are getting hijacked, our traumas are getting exacerbated, you know, from a fear based perspective. Wow, this is so insane.
You know, so the more that I think we can bring art and beauty and reminding ourselves and each other that this is actually why we're here on Earth, it's not to fight, it's not to power over and control, it's to be creative, it's to build, it's to make, you know, the next iteration of the generations better. So one generation, like our goals, I mean, as a mom, I'm always like, How can I make my life a little bit stronger and more healed so that my children's world can get stronger and healed? I mean, this is just this is remarkable. What did did any of the police like, did you have anybody that was, you know, who got to work there? Were they just like, I'm so happy that I get to come here every day and see your Oh, yeah. So I went to install,
[00:34:17] Unknown:
and I I went to install first, and it was, like, 2022. And then there was a big opening 2023, and I ended up going 2 times. And, you know, I had done the workshop, so you start connecting to people. So I became friends with a contractor, and you you just, like, establish relationships with people for 2 years because you're working together on a project. So by the time that it was up, it was funny because I met a lot of people always on Zoom. So the day that I arrive, I realized they they all realized that I'm a midget, and and we were looking all up, and they were like there was one who was, like, racing me. I was like, you wanna see if, closure? And I was like, put me down. And but it was it was funny. Everybody was just so joyous and asking me, like, really real questions because a lot of this mosaic, they have images from what Boston used to look like before.
So that's this is in the same area where Logan Airport is. So if people don't know, this area is just pure landfill. And before there were 5 islands that Oh, wow. Looking out there. And so what I did is, like, I was with 2020, so I'm thinking a lot about separation and bipolarity and, like, right and wrong. And so I said, well, I'm gonna represent the idea of separateness and then also the idea of, like, looking for what is our vocation, our service, and stuff like that as supposed to just be pointing fingers. So that's why, like, a lot of the figures and everything, they're very conceptual. I I have, like, an answer to everything. So, a lot of images from, like, the the first policeman and I don't know if you know, but the first policeman in the United States were in the city of Boston. They were called the watchmen. So I have, like, the the image of the of the police station. It's been printed there. And so they were discovering. They go like, oh, you have this. You have that. And I said, yes. So I I make these little things there so people kind of spend time and start discovering little nudges that I put there, nuggets for them to discover afterwards.
[00:36:06] Unknown:
I think it's so cool, Monica, too, just like what you were saying about the the the bipolar, the the the like things intersecting, you know, like things that are split but then they're together. And I I just was I've been noticing that on a lot of these particularly because it's like you can certainly have, Oh, cool. This is so nice. It's a gradient and it's gonna go from left to right and la, la, la. But you have a lot of intersections and disruptions, but they still go together, you know, and there's something about, like, the flow of that, but it's kind of like, yeah, we're we're we're not this perfectly wonderful gradient all the time. Like, that's not what Yes. It's a construct Yeah. It's a construct that we
[00:36:47] Unknown:
grow and, you know, I've done a lot of work with, Jungian psychologists who is about the shadows. So where you put the light, it's not about becoming the shadow or becoming the light. It's about integration. So I like to play with colors that way and then bring a little bit of disruption that then it it's gonna become harmonic one way or another with through the shapes. And I I use a lot of these shapes. You know, these shapes are very precise. They speak, I make a lot of reference to art. So I really like a point on art that was called the Bauhaus, the school of the Bauhaus in Germany in the twenties, where it gather a lot of architects, designers, textile artists, musicians, theater. It was like really a bubble of creativity.
And there's an artist there that later came to the United States, and he was one of the most import important pedagogues in in art school, and everything was called Joseph Albers. So during the twenties, in Bauhaus, he created this font case, that is made of half a circle, have, have, square, and he made the alphabet. So this word these figures that you see, they're all part of that of of that. So I'm playing with history. I'm playing with real shapes. I'm playing, like, I always I work a lot with time, but I see time as a continuum. But I like to think that I can just go through the tunnel of time and bring some stuff from there, put it together, and they make a contrast between the now and then and the future.
[00:38:09] Unknown:
It's so cool. And then so this is the is this the first person the first, police officer, like, you said that was wearing it? Because this looks like it's
[00:38:17] Unknown:
Yeah. There yeah. There's there's like a police station. This yeah. Oh my god.
[00:38:22] Unknown:
It's just so cool. God, what a what a wonderful world you get to live in.
[00:38:29] Unknown:
I didn't know. I didn't create. I mean I never imagined that you do this, but then once it came to me, I like, I said no, and then I said okay. And now it's like, give me more. But but I also, like, I don't like hoarding things. So I think that all the projects that are coming to me, the I'm a deep meditator, so I never asked for, like like, greed, but I said give me what is supposed to come to me so I can actually grow more. And so come and and they bring challenges not only materially, but, like, conceptually or even dealing with certain people. There's always, you know, we're we're we're in this world all Sure. Projecting shadows to one another. So for me, though, the work has become a way to integrate my own shadows and I use my artwork and now my writing and to really understand who I am. And I have still a really funny story. I've been in with a bad pain, all this is because I realized yesterday I have a kidney stone. I'm gonna tell the whole story. This morning, I was in prayer, and I was like, okay, little stone. Tell me what is it that I need to learn because I know everything is a teaching. And it was so amazing. My grandmother came through. She recently, it was her birthday 2, 3 days ago, a 120 years she was supposed to be. And she came, she said, there was an image of a river, kidney, water. And then she said to me, shift and move and shake. So I have to move. And I know because maybe my energy is very sechnated because of the book. I've been staying too many hours on front of the computer.
And then she said something very beautiful has to do with the eclipses for me and for everybody. She says, preserve only what is needed and let go and with the flow. The the water is gonna wash it through. So the dissolving that your little rock has to do has all those things and emotions that you have crystallized the last 16 years, ex marriages, ex friends. Nobody talks to me right now from the art world because now I became persona non grata because I'm a Bitcoiner and just, like, I'm pointing fingers. And so I was angry. And so the stone is talking to me and I'm like, oh my god. So I always bring an opportunity like this, even my artwork or something to tell me something about my life and my growth.
[00:40:39] Unknown:
Wow. That is amazing. I know. And it's like when you listen, you can obviously connect these dots and understand all the little lessons that are there for us. And I find it interesting, you know, the crystallizing emotions and obviously, we do that and then we think like, Oh, no, no, no, I'm processing them. But then there's like little fragments that it's like, nope, I'm still holding on to this thing and then it starts to grow and then it starts to turn into more of a mass versus, okay, it's just out there and it's not attached. And so what are your thoughts on I'm gonna go sideways here but I think it's probably appropriate. What are your thoughts on on because on entities?
And, you know, you just brought up your grandmother. And and do you believe, like, are there entities out there that can attach themselves to us and to our energy bodies and to, you know, try to act like little vampires, you know, like little energy suckers?
[00:41:37] Unknown:
Okay. So I'm gonna tell you something that I learned from my Dallas teacher because I I grew up in a place that there's some Santeria in Colombia, like, voodoo. They do that. And I know stories. I won't go into details. So I remember, learning with him. We learned a lot about energy, where he was my real teacher of energy. And so he said something to me one day, and he says, look, because we're all resonance, he says, if you wanna keep on believing in that, that's what's gonna be around you.
[00:42:06] Unknown:
Okay.
[00:42:07] Unknown:
And then if you want to transcend that, vibration, you're going to attract other kinds of entities. So they're no longer entities, like, in the lower realm, like Mhmm. Like like, kind of dark. But then you actually start connecting to the angelic or or archangel kind of entities that is really, like is another dimension. So I think of dimensions that we're here in the material three d dimension, but I can sense. I am very psychic, so I can sense stuff. And when I connect to, my higher self, I used to always connect to 4 guys that I had at this side of my brain when I was little that now I know that's my consciousness. But I had always these guys like, you didn't do your homework. It's like, come back later. You know? Like, he was always telling me those little voices, but now I know that there was a, like, a higher self, like, this high priest kind of it was neither female or male, but they were this energy that was telling me always, okay.
This is not okay or this is okay, but not judgmental, but mostly it was my consciousness that it was actually had a relationship. And I said it was in the second floor because many times I was like, la la la la la. Like, I don't wanna hear that. Right? But with time, I embrace them. And so, my mother recently passed. She passed, like, a year ago, and my dad died when I was 8. So I I said to my mom, she before she died, she's like, man, you really waited 50 years after my father died, don't you, to take care of us. I mean, she was really incredible. So I saw her die. I I knew she was getting ready. She had a stroke last, she was 90 years old. She had Alzheimer's. So I saw her losing herself within the years.
But the more she lost herself, the more I was able to connect to her spirit. So I I had joy for the last 4 or 5 years of my life to be able to connect to my mother at levels that are not physical, And I was able to prove that. So is she an entity or not? I don't think so. She's the spirit of my mother, and she was very spiritual in a way. She's very connected to something, higher. So she has come through me throughout this year, only that she stopped kind of like a week ago. Because I know that right now she's ready to go to another realm. But she came to me 3 times this year. And one of them, I was like, mom, where are you? Because since she died, I was like, all the time talking to her, talking to her, and just loving her so much. I think this one I understood that love is eternal, loving my mother because I came through her.
And, the first time I said to her, that was like, a year ago, she she died on September last year, and I said, mom, where are you? Where are you? And she said, call your siblings. 10 months later, mom, are you with dad? What the hell? Where are you? And she says, yes. Both of them were here with you, but remember, you are part of us. Okay. Then 3 months ago, something like that, I said, okay, mommy. This is not fun anymore. You used to be around, and now I have to really call for you. And then she says, you want you want me to be there with you? And I said, yes. And I said, well, I am within you as and so is god.
You wanna connect to me? You connected to god. And I was like, well and that was like a mic drop. I was like, okay. I'm no longer gonna ask you. And she says, just trust you. You you you trust yourself. That's all. So I I know that she's around, but the 1st year was like that part where you because I somewhere I read or I was told that when you lose both of your parents, you're on your own. You're this is like inner and outer authority, so I'm free right now. Completely free. And I just wanna make sure that I'm free in the right place. But yeah. So I I do believe in in this, but I I want to tune into the light. Even Twitter. Like, these days, I'm like, oh my god. This is so much trash. I have the filter because I it's easy for me to just go and go, like, and send to people, like, did you see this? No more darkness.
Just,
[00:46:03] Unknown:
yeah. Because we can attach that, energy around us. That is true. Yeah. That is true. Yeah. And so I'm so sorry for your loss and and I'm glad that she's free from, my bonus mom had Alzheimer's and it was just one of those it's so sad, you know, when you see these wonderful humans that you care about disintegrate into these people who aren't functioning in a way that they used to get to function. And so, yeah. And I know. And I think talking with with like, you you nailed it. Right? So to me, and same thing with your teacher, it's like if we continue to stay disciplined and focused on the light and on the higher vibrational states of being and, you know, I was talking about this with somebody yesterday and, you know, I've been doing some hypnotherapy sessions lately and just going through a lot of stuff. And I've been visualizing this like pyramid. And anytime something I need to transmute, it's going up to the light throughout the pyramid and going into something good. But then I was just like, I know it's like, how do I prevent the little things from coming in? And so, I was like, I imagine it like, you know, for me, energy I've done lots and lots of energy work forever. And it's like when I don't practice it every day, it's like I'm leaving my doors and windows open. Yes. Yes. And the critters are coming in and they're making a nest and they're pooping on the deck and they're doing all the stuff and I'm just like So, it's like, if I'm not disciplined with my energy hygiene and staying in that higher state, then all that stuff can happen. And you just nailed it, of course, with, like, what goes on in Twitter. Like, I I had to take these apps off the phone for a while because I just I kept realizing. I'm like, uh-oh. I'm I'm the raccoons are pooping in my cereal every day. Like, this is not good.
[00:47:46] Unknown:
This is also I Susan, I think in your church, you have something I will talk about it is like and I also have it is like the the most important thing is learn how to say no because we are certain souls, we come with a very open Yep. Psychic world. So we don't know that there are boundaries, but boundaries, the first thing a person saying in this world that needs to learn without feeling guilt or guilty is saying no. So I do I'm very good with boundaries right now. I
[00:48:13] Unknown:
people don't like me right now. I don't care because it's about my safety space. And I will say no, no, and no is no. So It's so true. So I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna plug this really quick because this completely has to do with boundaries. Like so I went through a giant colossal life shit show, fell apart, you know, 8 ish years ago. And I got these messages of like, Okay, you're supposed to write a book. You're supposed to tell these stories. And really, you know, I'm like, what's the basis of it other than just to hear this is what happened? And what I kept realizing was, like, over you know, and I made this whole 11x code and project, so I'm gonna be launching that soon. But it was about, you know, saying yes to my nos and no to my yeses.
Yes. Over time, again and again and again. And as a people pleaser and a healer and a creative, I, of course, I wanna go, Oh, la la la. And I just think of like overcompromised leads to demise. And so unless we like boundaries are actually a sign of love and they're a sign of care for yourself and other instead of just like, Okay, I'll just do it just to try to please you, but it's not really my truth, you know? And so you turn into an accidental liar,
[00:49:21] Unknown:
you know, when when you do that. And so But there are practical ways to do it, and we're gonna go a little bit step by step. I'm gonna focus on a couple of things in your chart because it is there and and it is something that you're going through. I also went through that, and it's about, creating a deep relationship to your needs. And if you know what your needs are and your values are, then you can actually create a structure for what is it that you say yes and no, and it's not a constant. It's now. Like, what is it that you now? So and it's a practice. It's like, as you say, if you meditate, whatever, because you can protect yourself with, like I mean, I like crystals and I like that, but I don't want to depend on those artifacts only because I wanna be able to say yes and no. That's all. Totally. And that's so cool you said that. And that's I'm so curious what this is gonna say because this whole
[00:50:10] Unknown:
thing that I'm working on, this 11x love code, it's about writing your Bushido code, your warrior code, and really starting to get like a MeHD in understanding yourself. And because a lot of times, we go through life and these things happen and I'm like, How did this get so far over here where I thought I was this person and I thought these were my values and I thought and then, you know, you just end up you know, making these decisions incrementally and sometimes big ones, you know, and you didn't check-in with yourself like, Is this really for me? Is this for God? Is this for my mission? Is this for my vision? Is this for why I'm here? Or am I doing this thing because I need to feel, like, accepted? Am I feeling lonely? Am I horny? Am I wanting to be long? Am I feeling, lack or scarcity? And so, all of those things, like, unless we can come up with that, like, that compass, that operating, you know, system that is ours, it it it's like we're gonna be easily pulled in all these directions, which is what happened to me. And and it still does and I still keep making mistakes because I'm like, well, maybe I'll just kinda hope that this thing changes. And it's like, no. There's the situation that's in front of you and it's as is. And so, if it's good enough as is, is it a yes? Great. If not, check the you know, because you can't fall in love with, you know, a job or a situation or a house or a person that your hope is gonna change like because it may not. And then you end up being like, Oh gosh, I wasted all this time and energy. And so, I'm really learning the as is, you know, and looking at my decision making filtering matrix and mechanism with this code. And so, this will be fun to chat about, with that. So, but the Snap Goes, The Human Story series is kinda like chicken soup for the soul. And my goal is to use, you know, people's stories anonymously from all over the world that wanna talk about anything that happened in their life, you know? Did they get cheated on? Did they have, you know, an abortion? Did they have an addiction? Did something horrible, you know, anything that happened that they wanna have a before, during, and after ability to share their transformation, you know, and then create an opportunity, of course, because I'm a Bitcoiner. I wanna use value for value and then teach people about Bitcoin because it's like, cool. In perpetuity, we can have lightning splits for all the people who submit these stories. And so if people are tipping them, if we have the books published, if we have anything out there rather than just like a one time, you know, little chunk of payment, which is what Chicken Soup does, which they're amazing, 500,000,000 copies sold, we get to have Bitcoin and we get to teach all these new people about Bitcoin and how cool it is because then all of a sudden, they've got little and they're like, ding, ding, ding. I why am I getting, oh, somebody read my story.
Oh, you know? Like, how cool is that? So anyways, if you guys are listening, check it out. Submit. You can submit a 100 stories as as many times as you want with anonymous, you know, names. And I'm doing it I want people to submit anonymously because if you have a domestic violence story, for example, and you want to protect the children from the ex getting angry because you actually want to get this off your chest but you don't want to throw that person under the bus, this is a safe place to do that, you know. And so so I think that's a very cool, important thing.
So, okay, so let's talk about your so I wanna talk about the book. I mean, do you wanna do the book in the car? No. The book is here. I mean, I I just came from the printer. It's Yay.
[00:53:41] Unknown:
My work, and it's made out of I mean, they can see everything in the website, but let me see if I can show you the so it's it's made up in a way like I make my artwork. It's, it's ideas that came through. I've I've been writing all my life, but I I never did anything with it. And around 2 years ago or something like that, I met these people, this this groups that I that I did on that I belong to online in the 20 twenties, 2021 while I was learning all these things about circling and and non violent communication, everything. So I met this woman called Marie Good luck. And at one point, I don't know, she said something, like, in the group or whatever. She said, like, I do transcripts, and I said immediately. I'm always thinking about, like, something new. I'm like, oh my god. I have so many things. So I just said, how much do you charge per minute, per hour? She goes, I don't know. She had never done it. And she says, I'll do it for free. I said, no. You're not gonna do it for free. I will never give you anything for free because I don't wanna owe you anything. Like, I know the question of value. So she said, okay. Let's try. She came out. I actually put it very difficult for her. I said, come back and tell me a price. It took you, like, 3 weeks, and I went point, I said, like, do you wanna do this or not? Because I'm ready to pay, but and and she came and she came out with a good price. So I dumped her a lot of my audios, and she start transcribing.
So a couple of months passed by. We didn't never even meet on on Zoom. I see her here and there. And then one day, she said she needed to talk to me, and I said, what's going on? And she said, if you ever wanna write a book, I would like to be part of it. And I said, a book? Because I wanted to organize a little bit my thoughts. And then she said, you have an amazing book. And I said, okay. Deal. I write it, but you co edited it. You put it together. I'm not gonna do that. And so we started working like that. And so she basically took a lot of the writings, and she organized it in a way that basically she says the main theme that she wanted us to do was my own path of individuation, which is, like, freedom from pain, from financial freedom, all that. So I was writing since the, like, the she got writings from 2020, 2021, 22. So as I started really studying deeply Bitcoin, and then I went to study with Cepheidian Austrian Economics and all that.
I started writing about it. Because at the beginning, I didn't know what Bitcoin was, really, so I started writing about it. And I have a substack, so I was kind of writing about blockchain and mining. But but more like from my perspective, always making a comparison. So I ended up writing. It makes, you know, Bitcoin makes an entrance there. I talk a little bit about energy, but I I speak more from that state of consciousness that I think is important important in how it has empowered me to go deeper into understanding the history of money, the history of, like, the big, like, scam that we live in in the art world is a scam. Like, I'm I'm completely, like, telling few of the friends that speak to to me. It's like you don't understand that everything has to do with fiat scam. Like, you don't understand it, so you have to go back. So in a way, this book was always meant to be like a journal that I'm sharing, and so it it is for many people because some people are interested in astrology. I do speak a little bit about the archetypes.
And, but it's not an astrology book. You will if you wanna learn a little bit, there's a kind of like a game thing in the middle where you can actually learn the archetypes. And then, the last part is, like, if you're not a Bitcoiner, you you heard this word Bitcoin whatever in with few of the chapters where I speak about what is really essential for me in Austrian economics and and Bitcoin, I end up with a very beautiful chapter where I I I I'm always trying to look for historical people that for me, they were Bitcoiners without knowing. And one of them is Dante Alighieri. He's a a very important figure in the Italian language. So he's in the middle ages.
He lives around the same era where the crusades end, the play how to say the plague was happening. And, this is prior to renaissance. And so he there's also a a, cycle of Pluto, like the one we're having right now that is the end of a cycle same that we were having during the American revolution, same when the church broke in 2 in 15 36. So I'm always looking at time changes and seeing how things are repeating or or have a tendency to bring the same kind of energy. So I look at Dante from point of view of an artist, and then I use another writer that looks at him at the same way. And so it's very symbolic the way I talk about the banking system from then, how it compares to Bitcoin right now. So it's it's actually a very lyrical chapter. It's kind of long. It's one of the longest, and it's almost towards the end where I just say, okay. This is the synthesis of like, if you read the book, you go like, oh my god. Monica is all over the place, but maybe she makes sense. Maybe.
[00:58:22] Unknown:
Well, I it is it's such a challenge, I think, you know, to encapsulate, like, the whole system of the world. You know? And so and, obviously, everything is interconnected. And, like, when I created this 11x thing, it's like, how is everything touching each other in my little mind so that I can, like, reverse engineer and make sense of things? And so it seems like we're definitely sense makers. Like, we're seeking what how does this fit and how do these things touch each other? And I think it's like, does everything touch everything? And I think it does. You know? There's nothing that's like, oh, this is this is a silo over here of of a a character of life or a quality of life or anything. It's like everything is interconnected inextricably forever, you know. And so to try to sit and comprehend life through one lens and just being like, no, no, no. If we just do everything here, it's, you know and it's like, no. Like, because that lever is gonna push this here and it's gonna go over here and everything's gonna get,
[00:59:21] Unknown:
impacted. You know? And everybody has the same level of understanding. Like, some people this is more like, you know, the two sides of the brain where you have a capacity I have a very large capacity to see abstraction. That's why my art is very abstract, but there's a part that when I really wanna focus is very, very, very logical, and I can understand and solve problems like that. Now there's some people who are very logical and they have very little, like, I don't know, like, patience for abstraction. They're just like, no. And that's okay because their mind and their cognition is supposed to be developed in a different way. So it's about putting all these things together.
And I wanna say, like, astrology and Bitcoin are technologies. Astrology is a language. Yeah. And a technology because it is based on numbers, you know, the position of the planets, and then we have geometries, actually, the study of those numbers in space. Then we have harmonics, which is the relationship of the planets create this, like, resonance or dissonance that's, you know, they make harmony or not. And they are based on the geometry, but also the time. So this is, like, it's numbers in time. And then we have astronomy slash astrology. So astronomy was always considered like the validator of these first three of the of the numbers, geometry, and, harmonics.
And a solo astronomy is a validator because every day the sun comes back again. Every 28 days, the moon comes back. Every 88 days, Mercury goes around the sun. So we have physically the possibility with our naked eye to see that that's a validation of time. So we're living in these time cycles. Now Mhmm. Astrology, as a language, is the logos, the reason of mythology. You interpret yourself in relationship to the world through the lens of mythology. So a lot of people say that it is woo woo. I let people say whatever they want, but I would like people to be more open minded, about the idea that these are ancient, very ancient paradigms that they were used by an all kinds of, people like the Mesopotamians, the Chinese, the Hindus, everybody has a relationship to astrology because it's it's a way that the human being has to look up to to disguise and understand what they're doing here. It's not woo woo, and and that happened a lot during the break of the church when the church want the the people, the plebs, to actually have any power.
[01:01:46] Unknown:
And so, I mean, this is obviously you were speaking of this earlier about generational trauma and overpower and control and whatnot and certainly some of us have been exposed to way too much power and violence, you know, when people go sideways with that. Why do you think, like, at some point in our evolution as human beings, right, like, we're obviously animalistic in many, many ways, right, and we're tribalistic, you know, tribal in many ways. Do you feel like we're ever gonna get to a point where we get to have peace and harmony and coexist because we're getting access to different types of truth? Or is it gonna just take such a long time because maybe our brains, over time, have to keep just purifying all the toxic trauma, you know, that's stored in our cells and our tissues as, you know, Peter, I think he says the issues are in the tissues, right? And so, Peter Levine. And so, how are we gonna evolve? I mean, is there a way to fast track evolution into a more peaceful world?
[01:02:48] Unknown:
Well, that's a good question, but, you know, I can answer this two ways. It's like, okay, we're all evolving every day all the time. So evolution is not a destiny. It's a process. Yeah. So, like, let's say that there's no world peace, which is unfortunate, but there's other things that are happening even without world peace. Without it, we're evolving because we are, responding to it. So in a way, every opportunity is an opportunity for you to have a change, a transformation in your life. Now that being said, it's not a fun place to be when people are killing each other. I think that the fundamentals, again, the principle of understanding what is needed in a civilization is really you have to start, and I really love what what the work of the Austrians in that way through missus Rothbard, Hoppe, and now Amos. Like, these people are really bringing the the the the core of what we need is to understand that if we do not respect our bodies and we don't respect the body of the other and the property of the other, we will always be in a state of violence because we're not respecting the main minimum. So I I don't know if we have to, like, literally kill the whole world to realize, oops, or say just before the oopsie, say maybe we should do that. So I don't know, but I'm only gonna say one thing and I don't want people to get scared or anything. We are at the very end of a very big cycle.
Extremely big cycle. People have been talking about this. We were born for this. I say we have little time. I don't want you to be here but it's more like, okay, get your engines going. So we have very little time from here and then we have another eclipse next Monday, Tuesday until January to really step up with our courage to go and do that thing that makes us feel alive, whatever that is. Don't worry if you lose your job. Don't worry if your wife leaves you. Don't worry if you lose what you think that is most important. What is most important is that you stand up with your truth and lead your life with truth because we're gonna be eating otherwise.
And so then we're gonna enter into a period that is going to be I mean, if right now this is jarring and confusing, what is coming is shit show. It's like so I am very practical so I say imagine you're in a boat on a river or the sea and it's very foggy, we cannot really see truth, you see what's going on right now, you don't even know what the truth is, it doesn't matter. Well, you have to trust your instinct that you can navigate to the other side of the shore. Now, if in your boat there is a drunk person that is going to rock the boat, you must boot this person out. So it's also about putting boundaries and saying you did not do proof of work, you're not here. There's no freebies where we're going. This is all about sovereignty and sovereignty means understanding what freedom is. If you ask me what Bitcoin is for me, I say Bitcoin for me is the ability for me to actually practice my own sense of freedom because that's the only thing that I I want in my life. Now we're gonna have I've been receiving some dates, and I corroborate with the astrology. We're gonna have a very big event happening twice. At the beginning of, like, May next year or June, we're gonna have Saturn that is like the definition of the reality. Meet Neptune that is the exactly the opposite. The spirit, there's no definition. So they're gonna meet at the very end of Pisces, which is the very end of a very big cycle where dissolving, forgiving, surrendering, but also there's, like, a lot of drugs, alcohol, denial because they're all coming pairs.
And then when they meet again February 2026, they meet at 0 degrees of areas, which is the universal point beginning of everything. So we will have, if we want, we will have the possibility to be based people, all those that we did the work. But now don't worry about the group. If you are doing your thing, you're gonna resonate and people are gonna come to you or you're going to be meeting the right people so we can build together. It's not about holding hands, but it's more about accepting who you are and and going with it with your heart, with your soul, with all of it. We're here for this. I'm very optimist, actually, but there's a lot of work to be done.
[01:06:55] Unknown:
There is a lot of work to be done. And, I mean, that was a whole bunch of I'm, like, writing all these dates down. I'm like, what do I need to know? I I let you know. No. I let you know. And there's a big eclipse. I I got, I got, like,
[01:07:07] Unknown:
downloads. I get very precise downloads all the time because I ask for them. I do this meditation that is really working. That is the getaway tapes from the CIA.
[01:07:16] Unknown:
Oh, I know some other folks who were doing that. How's it going?
[01:07:20] Unknown:
Valerie. It's like Woah. Okay. Not everybody. I had the other day somebody said that they they thought they were spooky, and I said, well, if you don't resonate, don't do them. For me, it's been like another port. I've been doing my dishes for a long time. This is like, okay. You wanna go to another level? It's because it's very precise, and so it has taught me how to self hypnotize myself and be very precise about things. So I do ask things very precise, and I get the information. So quite amazing. So I did get some dates. And the date that I got, that it was really striking me, that was beginning of this year. There was a number. It was 14 I I do a lot of numerology. It was 1440, and that's the amount of minutes we have in the day. So I said, a day? And they said, it has to do with days, but it's not a day. And I said, oh, 1440 days? Yes. So I looked I always look at astrology, and it was, January 26, 2028. There's gonna be a huge eclipse that is going to really be very impactful for the United States because the south node of the moon is gonna be together with Pluto, which is transformation, and Mars and other planets. But the funny thing is that that is exactly the point of my ascendant.
So my chart my chart and the chart of the United States is very connected. My 911, it was connected that day to the day my my destiny and the destiny of that thing was there. I I was it was not the day for me to die. The pandemic was also very important for me because doing those numbers, I said, okay. If I go forward, it's gonna be 2028. What happens if I go backward? Boom. Beginning of the pandemic by the day. Exactly. So I I listened to those things because they're giving me clues.
[01:08:56] Unknown:
Wow. That's amazing. I mean, I'm so curious about, all of these things, and I'm nervous. Like, I've I've been and and I told you know, so I said before we did this and I put it in a couple you know, in email and social, I was like a little nervous about this. I have been somebody who, you know, the random Sunday whatever, go look at the horoscope thing, but I've never really and my my ex husband's ex fiancee gave me, like, a chartbook thing that I just kinda flipped through and I was like, I don't know because I have something in my mind that is resistant to any of this because it's like, oh, well, what if, you know, what if Monica plants a seed and then I make it come true because she said so? Like, what if what if it's like, oh, you're gonna have a, you know, some bad thing happen on, you know, March 5th? And so I've always been a little like, I wanna have sovereignty over that stuff. And so so help me understand how I cannot feel, like, you know, not I mean, you did. Obviously, you talked about science and math and numbers and harmonics and whatnot. So so let's go.
[01:10:02] Unknown:
Go ahead. So this is the thing. So astrology, the day you're born, we have certain, planets, I mean, all of them in a position. So they are also in certain degrees, so they carry an energy there. And this, like, signs and then houses, which is the placement in the chart, they they carry an archetype. So the way I read this, I learned evolutionary astrology, which is a like sology that uses the trinity to to be able to synthesize, a and b and then c happens. So it's it's very, in tune with Jung, and the shadow. So when you the chart, you start with the planet Pluto. And Pluto is this desire that the soul has prior to this lifetime to come and to evolve. So let's say that that's the floor plan. Pluto is like okay you're not gonna so when I look at your chart and I see and then I'll send it to you like I see that you have Pluto in the in the middle of the sky. When you were born, it was there. This is a very powerful, very, very powerful position for for a planet.
It's in in the sign of Virgo and it's in in the 10th house right there. So in a way, you come from lifetimes where you have been a very prominent figure of authority that was on top. You also have a rhinos next to it, but whatever happened in other life that you were also involved with, things that needed to be connected to seeking truth, religion, philosophy, church, something like that. So what I feel, and it's not that it's true, that energy that probably part of the trauma that you bring is that at one point, this position of power because it's let's say that you're in a position of power, but, you misinterpret or the whole purpose of the power is not done with good faith in a way because you didn't make good decisions. Not because you're a bad person, but because you whoopsie. You didn't do you you didn't see what it was coming.
As I also see that you have a moon and Sagittarius in the first house. So there is, there's, there's a tension in your chart where you have a power struggle between your freedom and your sense of purpose. So and you had it from before and now. So the the most important for me to tell you here is that it is very important that if you recognize that your most important thing for you is freedom, you have to know that if you don't make a structure of those values and needs, you will always have a struggle of power because you won't know how to use that power because you're actually kind of, like, giving in because you don't know how to, have leverage. So I said before, like, Pluto the bipolarity of Pluto is, is Taurus, is is Venus.
And so Venus is all about, I listen to my needs, I listen to my values, survival mode. But then once you know what you need, then you can have leverage to be able to go and trade off your space, your food, your your love life, whatever. You you become a very, equipped trader of your values. But when you don't know how to take care of that, then you're always in this, like, mode of unconscious manipulation because a part of yourself you have the moon and Sagittarius in the first house. You're very individual and you're looking for your freedom. You your freedom is over above everything. But when you feel confined by authorities or your own even doing that sometimes you kind of put yourself in the in that situation, then there's this struggle because you wanna break free. And then you have another planet there that is at the opposite that there were in mythology, there were sister and brother. You have Demeter, which is the mother of Persephone.
There she's opposite in your chart. She's in Pisces. So she's this very, like, almost like victim mother that doesn't understand why there's this struggle. And she wants to go and save the daughter from her brother that snatched Persephone. And so, but Demeter or series, she also gives the opportunity for you to with your, like, ideas, you have very active mind, would become no. But it's good. It's a you It's good. Yeah. It's good because it's your destiny. This is where you're going. So, you your the way you're gonna feed because the matter ends up becoming like the the personification of, the seasons and all the abundance that the seasons can provide in terms of food. So that's why the word cereal comes from series.
So in a way, you need to really plant a lot of seeds in your spirit what makes you feel alive through your own curiosity. So you're married to your curiosity because you already come lives a lot of lives of wisdom. You were always you're already a priest. You were already imprisoned, and not free from, like, your ideologies. Like, you were already with dogma and all that. I'm not saying it was a right or wrong thing, but you were already struggling and perhaps some people got involved, like, you you couldn't find, how do you call that, like a balance between, the needs of others and yours and so let's say there was like a miss something happened. So you're coming back here go like, okay, first of all, note to self.
I want to be powerful but I'm not gonna give away my power unless I don't have my freedom. So you're kind of finding a balance, and you're learning to trust so much your intuition. But sometimes your intuition gives you, like, let's say, when you're overcritical, are you very overcritical with yourself or you were at one point in your life?
[01:15:24] Unknown:
Oh my god. I'm I'm yes. I'm a self flagellator.
[01:15:28] Unknown:
Yeah. So this is your deep shadow. So in a way, there there's a like, one way to work with that, with that energy because you have your your past lives, like, being very, critical. And criticism is beautiful. Criticism and the work crisis kind of like they're together. It means that you see that something is not correct and so you can actually bring, like, something to to to repair it or to correct it or or to do something about it. But when you actually, just stay with the part of shaming yourself because you're not good enough and you're seeking perfection, that's when it becomes detrimental and you're moving backwards.
And so that's when you're not using the wisdom of your heart that you already earned in past lives because you're just too much time spending giving, you know, giving yourself a hard time. And you also have Mars in Taurus in the 6th cell, so you have a tendency to start, like, always criticizing yourself first. You're like, I don't have this value. So one of the things that, can help you do this to integrate is actually when Pluto needs to integrate itself, it has to go to the other side, which is home. And in home, I wanna ask you a few questions about when you were little. So you are a very individual person that comes here and and wants to shine so much as as your individual. You're you you have an Aries, sun, which is very beautiful because Aries is all about your individuality. You have Mercury there, but you also have Chiron.
And Chiron is the most sensitive and vulnerable. It's the wound. It's the wound that we carry. Now this last years and now with eclipses, you've been given the opportunity to actually work with that wound because it's all about, like, maybe when you were little, you didn't feel you had the courage or the support to actually be your individual and speak up and devote yourself to all your creativity. You're a very creative person. You want to wheelie out there, but I don't know if there was one of your parents who was, saying that it was more important to have, like, a security or have you done your homework and you're too much in the sky, you're too much in the imagination. Tell me a little bit. Or you have, like, a mother that it was very disconnected from your needs. Tell me a little bit about growing up in your home. What was it like? All of the above. It was exactly what you said.
[01:17:41] Unknown:
Like, my father was like, oh, you're gonna you know, why I I was the only person who ever went to college and wanted to go, you know, live my life and get a career. And he was like, Oh, you're gonna be barefoot and pregnant by the time you're 18. Why bother? And, so very, very negative about my dreams and wanted to go make a difference in the world. And my mother was very, you know, they divorced. She wasn't home much. And, so just I had to grow up very fast at the age of 10. But prior to that, even I just remember like her favorite phrase was children should be seen and not heard.
Wow. And that was so sad, you know, because it was just one of those like don't speak up, don't ask for anything, just go over there and do what you're supposed to do and don't be a burden. And, so those two things. I mean, I love my parents so much and just like I did the best I could with what I have and they've done the best they could with what they had at the time. So
[01:18:33] Unknown:
there's that, you know, but I know that there's still just that little thumbprint in the sculpture of our soul that that is that happens to us as children. And so, yeah, so that Yeah. And that's why, for instance, trauma work is really important. Like, I've done, you know, enough work with, with, Gabor. And so it's a a part and I and I say this is because you have Saturn in the 5th house, which is a house of creativity, children, and play, joy, Spontaneous. You want to be spontaneous. You wanna be in the now. You wanna be, like, completely, spontaneous and say things, however, and then people are just gonna love that because you you kind of like that. But then that sense of vulnerability that you have because you didn't have somebody that kind of you felt that you were unappreciated and probably was true, I'm I'm sure. But but the lesson right now is or the opportunity rather is that you need to become your mother and your own father in terms of authority. So authority is very important word because it means that you have mastered some things. You mastered the ability to parent yourself, invite the inner child.
I've done a lot of inner child work is when you invite little Valerie. She's 3 she's a crazy little girl that is making drawings everywhere. She's driving everybody crazy. She's all about herself. She's talking and ta da. And, she wants to do this and she sees things and she's like jumping and everything and everyone's like, stop. Don't do this. That's not gonna work. And so she's devastated. So I don't know if you've done any inner work where you invite her. You invite her to your heart. You actually take a picture of yourself when you're 3, 4 and live with her for a while, and then she will never leave you. And that's the I mean, hopefully, you've done that already in another way because it's not the the only way technique to do it. But it will lead your life fully because that is the inner light. It's a life in you since you were little, and the wine was not given the opportunity to to to be creative because you're a very creative person.
[01:20:28] Unknown:
Yeah. I I know exactly the picture I wanna get. It's funny. I in this hypnotherapy sessions last week, she was like, Val, you need to go because we're doing parts work right now. And she was like, Your next job is to go get a picture of yourself as a child and carry it around with you. So, like, I'm going back tomorrow, so I'll go find this one picture. And, of course, I don't remember a ton of things before the age of 10, but I do remember, like, I used to like to put on dance shows for my my family and for my my stuffed animals. And so I would be like, we're doing a show.
[01:20:58] Unknown:
And I would put on a show, and there's just a hilarious picture of me in some ridiculous little outfit as a little kid. And yeah. So I know I I wanna let her come out and keep keep playing and not try to be too serious. So yeah. Thank you. I know. Transits. You know, I have a whole PDF that you can read later, but I'm gonna talk about the transits a little bit. So we're I mean, I always laugh when I got readings with people that randomly they call me a day and then I look at the chart and it's like everything is written that there was a message for you. So we have these eclipses are and probably since April, you've been feeling a big shift, in your life and you probably don't know where the direction is, like, per se, but you you're driving anyway. You know what I mean? It's like people ask you where you're going. You go, it doesn't matter. I'm I'm on the road. You know? Like, you're you already know that the there's a process and not just the destination. That doesn't mean you're not gonna get or accomplish. I didn't say that. It's just the way that you're trusting more, the ability to trust yourself before trusting others because you did, in your chart, I see that you have a capacity sometimes to make, let's say, decisions that are not very clear because you didn't know how to trust, others because you didn't you were not given the light. So when parents don't give you attention, we start feeling that we are doing something wrong. So we tend to, overextend ourselves so we are loved and liked and then we make, you know, decisions that actually are not the best and we choose wrong partners and all that. But with time, you you know, and with work, then you realize it's like, okay. Maybe I was looking for something outside of myself. You know, the seeker was outside and not inside in the heart or embodied.
So what I in the chart right now is, like, there's something that's very, good. It's like Saturn, which is the father, the structure is also the support. Let's say that you had a great father or somebody or an authority figure that says all the time, like, that you come and you say I did this, and he says something like, wow, Valerie. This is great. I love when you do this. So he's giving you some sort of, like, recognition. And then he says, but make sure that you go and brush your teeth. You're not gonna hate your father because he's already made seeing you for your light, but he's also remind that there's a structure because otherwise you're gonna grow up ugly with yellow teeth. You know what I mean? So that that father is very important or the mother. We we have a structure. So we have Saturn and it's been the last few months has been going through your north node which is the direction of your life that is all about being curious and merging with the curiosity of your spirit. Your spirit is coming out and saying, do not judge anymore. Let me be. I know what I'm doing even if I what I'm doing.
And says, everything is great, Valerie, but we still have to make a foundation. So I had a dream not long ago, and I'm gonna give it to you because it it will relate a little bit. It's like I had a dream about if you are going to build let's say, you're gonna build a a bunch of channels in a piece of land because you want to, like, divert the water that is raining, And then you you're gonna do, like, under under the earth, under the soil, channels. So I had this idea that if I want to, like, spread the energy, you know, flow of energy and contain it, maybe there's a place with with the energy and the water is gonna be contained for later time. Mhmm. And and it was this beautiful image. So because I was asking how to do with this energy that is so structural, but at the end, it's in Pisces. So you can kind of, it's like the magic wand. Oh, we can create this, but you don't know how to use it. And then you end up asking for the 3 wishes, and then by the 4th, it's like, no. You ask already for everything while you were playing with it. It's a little bit about making, like, a strategy.
So there's a big opportunity right now in your life to create a strategy about like how you wanna channel all this, flow of energy in ways that with time are going to expand in something that is very useful and meaningful in the way you relate to the world. And a lot of it has to do with curiosity and things that you fancy, things that, I like that. Because long term, you're gonna build because Saturn is about, again, to support. You're gonna build a structure that is not so loopy because, you know, having the Pisces in your chart, it could be loopy in the sense that you're okay with this, but sometimes it's like, wait. We need a little bit of order. So you're given the opportunity right now to have a little bit of order, but it's not constrained order like the one you have when you were growing up, which was, like, almost sterile.
There was no input. Here is different. Here is, like it's asking you. It's like like the father in you, the the inner the the the outer authority to say, what do you want in life? What do you want the next 5 years? What do you want the next 10 years? How do you wanna be of service? How do you wanna have fun? And then you make a list of your needs. Oh, I need this. That's why I think low time preference is so important because then you start really making the the right list of what is needed. Because these eclipses as well, they're falling exactly on your chiron. That's just your wound and your sun. This is a beautiful opportunity, Valerie. The last time you had something like this was 18, 19 years ago. Then you probably open up something that you're closing right now, and this is an opportunity where you give yourself the light, you give yourself the courage.
Also, Karen is on your Venus. So you have a lot of planets right now at self notice on your Uranus, today, Mercury is on on Pluto. So I'm just gonna try to synthesize all this. So, basically, the chart is saying, you're ready. You're more than ready. You'll be getting ready. Now it's time for you to sit down and plan like an adult. Things have happened to you. It's not we cannot blame people. This is one thing that we have to get away in society. Things don't happen to us. Yeah. That, oh, that happened to me. This same person didn't know. You allow that to happen because you didn't know how to do it. You didn't know how to say no. So when you acknowledge and you become accountable, then you under oh, this is the power I have. I have the power to say that's not happening anymore. I say no.
So the whole world is right now gonna show you a lot of abundance. And when these two planets move together that I told you that they're gonna be, they're gonna create a new reality in the house where you called home. And it's not literal home and, like, what makes you feel safe emotionally. You're gonna start feeling that safety so close to yourself, but your safety depends on your individuality, your freedom. Yep. That make sense? It totally makes sense.
[01:27:24] Unknown:
Damn.
[01:27:27] Unknown:
My brain How are you feeling?
[01:27:29] Unknown:
I'm feeling good. I'm just like, yes. Since April, shit has been completely disintegrating. And even prior to that, but April was a huge month, I had a massive panic attack. I had to call a whole bunch of girlfriends when I was on a boat in the middle of the ocean with somebody who I'm not with anymore who was part of this disintegration and just knowing, like, I just felt it. Like, something's shifting. You know? And so, anyway but everything you said is so spot on. It's crazy just as far as being free. That is ultimate priority for me. Don't tell me what to do. Yeah. That's my jam. And and, yes, I think if it was just me wandering around Earth, I could be in, like, little la la land with all, like you said, in the Pisces vibes, but, like, I can't be in service if I'm that way.
And Oh, no. Yeah. And so for me, I understand. And that's kind of why I think I've been so attracted to this code and putting this together because that is that structure, that is that strategy, that is that the container for me to have better decisions and have more strategy, you know, and not just have, Oh, here's an idea or here's this. It's like, no, here's a roadmap. Here's a repeatable roadmap that's got fun and play and celebration and community within it. It's not just here's my checkbox of shit to do and my OKRs and my KPIs and all the stuff that I'm supposed to do as a business person. And so how can I make that and then have self accountability and self leadership in addition to friendship accountability, you know, and and making it fun to get shit done, you know?
[01:29:04] Unknown:
I love it. I love it because it it is through like creating these structures. And right now, your progress chart is so Capricorn is is the the the main. So Capricorn again other and it's like the structure and it's time. So it's maturation. And you do have also right now, you have Jupiter on your Mars. So that's I I wanted to say something. Like, you did feel the big change in the last year. Yep. Some you became a now you're a Gemini in the progress chart. So have fun, man. Like, that this is a goofy time of your life. It's like if it's goofy, it's good. If it's silly, even better. You know, like, who has, Venus and and Gemini have it too, and that's where your Mars is right now? Elon, Elon Musk. He's the most goofy person in the world. Right.
And he's sick. I love his jokes because it's like, I totally get it. Like, of course, because that's the kind of goofiness that I have and got me in so much trouble. So if if it's goofy, that doesn't mean that you're not a serious person. That doesn't mean that you don't do things for serious, but we cannot take ourselves so seriously. No. We can't. But but that energy is actually allowing you to flow into a state of like, oh, I I I bring the curiosity and and I move forward with this sense of wonder, and then I can actually connect to something that is very spiritual because your spirit wants that. Your spirit has been many lives already too serious in the in the biblutech, how to say, the big library, ascribing the bible.
You don't need to do that anymore. You don't need to go and be a priest and then get because you have past lives where you were, either in an outhouse or in, prison.
[01:30:40] Unknown:
Yep. That sounds familiar.
[01:30:43] Unknown:
Yeah. It becomes so important. So you're taking time right now to understand how the world, works because you don't wanna do the same.
[01:30:51] Unknown:
Wow. Yeah. No. And and I don't want the same for others too. And that's what's really, like, for me, like, I think I'm, of course, self healing, I can't go help and do anything on planet Earth unless I'm whole, unless I'm working from a height. Full tank. We know that. You know, we know the whole thing. But it is something that is just after going through what I went through 8 years ago, you know, I had such an arrogance about me up until that point that, you know, oh, you're depressed. You feel anxious. You're feeling out of control. Like, just get it together, like put a smile on. And I didn't have I didn't have enough empathy and I didn't have enough compassion, I think. And I always just had this fixer mentality like you said earlier because that's me like, Oh, if I see something, Oh, let's make it better. Let's fix it. Let's do the thing.
And I didn't marry that with empathy and compassion, you know, and really getting in tune with the other. And so it was a perfect experience for me to have to go through that. And And I did go to, you know, a nuthouse, a mental hospital. I went to rehab. You know, I went to these places which to me, it's like, Wow, what a gift. What an absolute gift. It wasn't actually one of those places from historically where they tied you up and you're, you know, you're just thrown away because you're not operating in a way that people expect you to in civilized society. But, you know, it's like, you know, people give you flowers if you break your arm, Right? Or, you know, oh, I'll visit you in the hospital. You had a broken leg. Something happened. You know, you had a heart attack.
But when you have a mental breakdown, nobody's bringing you flowers. Nobody goes. Nobody wants to see you. Nobody wants to talk to you. They wanna talk about you behind your back to each other. Sorry that you went through that. Like It's okay. I was just it's but but but it it helped me realize, like, holy shit. There's a whole thing that's happening out here. And all the folks that I got to meet in rehab were, like, there's a billionaire. There's a CEO. There's a teacher. There's a mom. There's a nurse. There's a student. There's a hairdresser. There's a truck driver. There's a yoga teacher. There's all these people that have all these different things that they had enough compounding issues that they snapped and it collapsed. And so, nobody, no thing, nothing in nature is immune from collapsing and snapping because of enough pressures and enough external things. And so, you know, for me, like recognizing, Wow, if that could happen to me and all these people, everybody's at risk, you know. And if we don't have certain things that we can do, you know, on a daily basis to stay, you know, trying to be in that higher vibration and trying to understand ourselves, know thyself so that we can be up here and not in this like toxic soup hell so that we don't collapse, so that we don't have to leave our children for a month, you know, and so that we don't lose the things that are precious to us. And so, lessons are lessons, right? And, you know, I say lessons and lessons but, I think it was just it was an important time of life and it shifted my desire to wanna even be more in service to people in this way, you know, through play, through fun, through creativity.
And it's like, okay, a little bit of structure in there too, you know, that you have a daily practice and meditation and whatever it is that works for us. So so it's just such a wow.
[01:34:18] Unknown:
I think I'm thank you for for that. I think I met you and you gave, I think in Miami 2023 with Natalie Brunel, and there was the the thing in in the glasses. I still have them. The heart glasses. Yeah. Yeah. It's so awesome. It's like your energy was just like I've any it was beautiful to see. It was my first conference because I started volunteering only a year ago. And, I wanted to do I I wanted to come to the space of Bitcoin, like, with curiosity as well with not any pretense or saying, you know, I didn't wanna do the New York thing where you just go, like, oh, this is my car. Like, no. Just wanted to be and so I did sign up for for for that, and I was, I was having so much fun just seeing your sense of joy, and and I thought, oh, this is great. So there's space for this in Bitcoin because I didn't know what I was going to encounter in Bitcoin. You don't know, like, I'm I don't know, suited men with those cases. Like, I I had no idea. Crypto cryptography bros and hoodies. Yeah. And you're like, how do I fit in here? Yeah. Yeah. But that was like I was like, oh, okay. And then I think I saw you in in in LA as well. Like, we've like, you were DJing, and I was like, okay. So but I was I don't like try to define people. I just I I feel the energy and I let the energy kind of, like, fall into place. And then right now, for instance, that we're talking is like, oh, okay. Now I have an experience with her. And, obviously, I listen to some of the podcasts and stuff like that, but I didn't have a, like, first to first experience. And I only wait until then to just actually have a a something that is in my heart connected because other than other than that, it's just a perspective that it's it it could be skewed depending if I had breakfast or not. You know? Like, so so that I I I I love your energy and what it brings to to to the space and also, your willingness to to actually offer space for other people to to heal. I think it's so, so much because of your own predicament as well. Like, I also I mean, I I also went through a lot. And so I think, you know, we all do, and it's so beautiful to just be able to be vulnerable and tell people like, hey. We all we all have a thing. You know? It's okay to talk about it. It's really okay to talk about it.
[01:36:23] Unknown:
It is. And and it's shame. I mean, shame keeps us from speaking up and using our voices. And the worst thing that shame does is it doesn't give you that permission to raise your hand and say, I need help. I don't got this. And because we're so conditioned to, you know, think that everybody else has got it together and, Oh, wow. I'm the one that's kind of crazy so I'm just going to hide over here and not let anybody know how fucked up I really am. But it's like everybody goes through phases of I'm I've got it. I'm rocking. And then there's phases where it's like, I'm so not rocking. I'm I'm, like, I'm not dead. Didn't you, like because, you know, in your chart, it shows that you're a person that probably also because what you were told and and little and everything, you wanted to strive to be at the top and probably you were very much at the top of your business
[01:37:12] Unknown:
and and very executive and and and all that. But then through the crisis, you actually have to confront your heart that is broken in a thousand pieces. And then you discover that maybe being there in the podium being cool because it is cool to be up there, but being empty because you can be on the podium and you do not connect to anybody. Yeah. You're not connecting. So I think that, you know, I appreciate that you've done that for yourself. Not a lot of people do that. I think it's very courageous already that you've done that because this is what you're showing the world that it is possible. You you actually took off your persona. You know, when you have Pluto up there, it's the biggest and you have it really on top. It's like you're an authority.
And that persona, it's a character that you put because that's what you thought and you were fit. Like, that's what you you did, and you you were good at that. But that persona is not really you. And the more you detach yourself from who you are and your essence, the more this mask, this character starts going like, okay. I can do 2 things. Completely forget about it and and live this life and become a phony and, you know, all that stuff. And then I don't care. I don't care. Okay. Or say, okay. This is gonna be dangerously, like, stupid, but I'm gonna do it. And then you do it and you go like, okay. Hurts, but then, okay, what can we do? And I think that you've done it and it's so empowering, so empowering to see that. And thank you for doing that because you did it for you, but you're also like showing up the world that vulnerability is one of the biggest strong strengths that we have in our chart is where we feel completely broken.
[01:38:48] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. It's such a crazy thing. Like, we want to avoid the break. You know, most of us, there's like, no, no, no. Don't let it don't let the things fall apart. And what you were just saying earlier about, you know, this time period that we're entering where it's like, don't freak out if you lose your wife or if, you know, you lose a job or da da da da da, like, it's okay. Something else is coming, you know. But I think our egos get so attached to the familiar and we wanna have control and and we wanna think, you know, we're we're in control really is is the thing. And it's very, it's very disorienting and destabilizing mentally and emotionally and physically, spiritually when things start to crumble and collapse and you're trying to just hold it and just be like, no, no shit, instead of surrendering to the collapse, you know? And we think about nature and the cycles of nature and it's like, you know, certain things, it's like that's their seasonality. They are supposed to come up, rise and collapse, come up, rise and collapse, etcetera. And so I think we avoid that as humans, you know, because we want this thing to be here forever the way it is, you know? And I think about Burning Man. Have you been to Burning Man? I'm not the type. I don't have anything against it, but, like, I I don't Just not your thing. Yeah. But but it's like such an interesting thing where it's like all the energy goes into this just insane, you know, building and everything, the whole community, the art, everything, and then burning the man too. And it's just this like, Oh, wow. Nothing's permanent, you know? And so, but we get attached to that and I think that attachment, you know, we think of Buddhism and attachment is the cause of suffering, right? And so, I think for those of us or those of you who might be listening who could be going through a breakdown or a loss or something that is very painful, it's like it's sometimes it's it's less painful if you can just let it let it let it go, like you said earlier, Monica. And so And and support
[01:40:49] Unknown:
is super important because, sometimes, as you said before, like, it's so difficult to just call somebody and say, I need help. Yeah. Sometimes we tend to call the wrong people, and there's nothing wrong about talking to your best friend or your best buddy about something, but these people are not trained. These people are going to project back whatever they want. If it might not get rid of you and say, oh, yeah. Dump that. They're not even taking care of you. And if they're also finding an opportunity to just, like, dump their own stuff on you, it's like, oh, that happened to me and this was worse. And so there's no there's I learned that a long time ago. Like, it's like, if you can seek, like, professional support and make sure that that you're working is actually that listening to you, validating you, and and and showing you a way for you to see where you have to go, super important. And I don't think a lot of people really understand how important it is to seek, support at this moment.
And
[01:41:40] Unknown:
Yeah. And it's and and, you know, even for me, you know, it's like I'm not rich and it's like this is an investment for me to go do this hypnotherapy because I'm doing these layers of stuff that is very important for me to address right now in my life. And so it's just like anything that you're doing, I think, you know, whoever is listening, it's like it's an investment in your wellness. You know, you'll go to the gym. You'll go and buy organic food. You'll go on a trip. You'll go do all the things or you'll get Botox or whatever you're doing. It's like if this isn't up here, like lining up here, all that other stuff isn't going to be as as potent for you to be a whole happy person, you know? And so I think investing in our mental health and and people who are trained, like you said, and who do care
[01:42:26] Unknown:
and and sometimes the reality is you might have to go through 10 of them before you find your match, you know? And Or if you follow your and I wanted to if you have like 10 more minutes, we're gonna talk about your human design. So it's very to understand, that there are energy centers in your body that they tell you when I do readings. I do astrology as I did a little bit with, with you. I mean, obviously, my readings are 2 hours, but here, we we kind of, like, we're trying to put it and then Okay. Yeah. Well yeah. Thank you.
But then the other one is, like, there's some there are 9 centers in the body that they're defined or undefined, and they show you the energy of how to make the right decisions. Now you said something before a while back that you have a very good sense of smell because you can smell bullshit. Yeah. It is in your chart. You have that channel that is the channel. It's called the channel of the fighter. So it's the spleen. You have the 28, you have the purpose, and then you have the 38, the fighter, like the one that will never give up. So you have this, like, you have this ability. It's a very individual, energy that is about never giving up because you're so driven by, finding the purpose of your life that you don't give up and you will not give up. Now these other people were like, woah.
Not I have that channel too, and I know that that's one of my strengths. And I know that when I commit to something, this is it. So but the whole thing is, like, in moments in your life when you found yourself not giving, not putting the real purpose in your life, you you're you know that you're cheating yourself. So for you, the purpose is super important. You have another channel. It's very beautiful. It's called the beat. It's like the it's the identity center. You have the the gate 2, which is like the when when you're in the correct energy, you actually have the compass of the whole, like, the whole world. And you have the energy of materiality going through. So you have, like, a pulse of energy that you can actually manifest a lot of materiality, not only for yourself, but the others if you are really center on, like, finding the right direction.
And the direction is something that is not given to you, but it's something that is felt and is an urgency. So you are, generator in your charge, so that means that you respond very well to to people asking you to do things. But when you ask when you end up doing things, it's very important that you are true to, what the body's feeling. So if you don't if your gut says no because you're not gonna feel satisfied with it, you shouldn't do it even if it's all the money in the world. Yep. So being being frustrated shows you that you're in the wrong place at the wrong time. Frustration is gonna be is gonna be the thing. So that's one of the things. Let me see what other thing I mean, I'm just going very fast through these things, but they're very important. You also have another channel that I adore that is, hold on here. Oh, what was it? The one the other person. So it's called the you you are you're very convict you have, like, an incredible, ability to to to understand what integrity is. So for you, integrity is a very important thing. And so you you can actually use the idea of your conviction and have all the energy in the world to go and inspire yourself, inspire others.
You'll trust your own convictions and you're very independent. You have a very independent energy. And, that doesn't mean that you're not tribal or collective, but you are really here to become your own person. The the crowd or the family, whatever, like, the tribe, they're gonna be okay without you. But you're very individual. And individual means that sometimes can be, melancholic because when you realize that you're on your own all the time, you I mean, it happens to me. I go like, anybody else in the world? You know, like, what's happening? But at the very end, you go, okay. I need to do this by myself because this is the energy that you have in order to achieve. So decisions, very important that you, listen to your gut always, never to your head. Never make big decisions with your ideas. You don't have ideas. Ideas are inspirations that come through you, and then you can actually make them, you know, conceptualize them and put them out there, but they don't belong to you. They're part of the creator. Other people are more defined like that. You do have, a lot of energy in the lower chakras and your spleen.
Spleen is the the center that's gonna tell you if you're in the wrong place at the at the wrong time. So always follow, 2 senses, your sense of smell and your sense of taste that is with the eye. You enter a place, and you know one thing, we were not taught to really follow our instincts and that's why a lot of people fall a predator you know, to predators and narcissists because we're not really, you know, listening to that. So if you go to a situation and this this center will never tell you yes. He will you'll go to a place and you just know this is not correct. You stand up and you go. You don't have to explain yourself.
Because this center is the it runs the almost, like how to say, immune system. It runs the immune system and you're always gonna tell you when you're not supposed to be in the right place because it's going to protect you now. We're overriding that because it's like no, what about what is Twitter saying? What is Google saying? No. When you're in danger and it's something that is gonna tell you immediately, especially when you meet people, like right now, you meet people even on the Internet and something is not okay, you just follow that. Yeah. Follow that.
That's the best way to connect to your, this is a this part of the brain that we have, like, a more animalistic you see it? I mean, I love National Geographic, just looking at the, you know, wolves and bears, like, how they do Eagles, predators, they're amazing how they use all the senses. So our senses, this is very important, our senses are the most valuable thing we have because this is our GPS. And our emotion is another tool that we have to see where we're at, But emotions take time, so we cannot trust the emotions. Emotions is like, they're always making a a respond, but we tend to react. So the instincts and intuition that are run by that center are things that are very important to listen to, take care of because, you know, obviously, you're very intuitive. And so if you follow that, you're never wrong. The problem is when you second doubt yourself. The problem is when you, put your expectations onto others.
And that happens to a lot of people. You.
[01:48:44] Unknown:
Yeah. Oh my god.
[01:48:46] Unknown:
Like, what about this? I hope you're not nervous anymore.
[01:48:49] Unknown:
I'm not nervous. I'm just like, okay, you just kinda went in and said everything about me. I it's like, I do. I have gotten myself in some situations recently in the last couple of years that, I overrode my intuition and I made excuses and I had emotional stuff that I got attached to instead of what my gut was telling me was get the fuck out, you know. And I always say, If it's not a fuck yeah, it's a fuck no. And Yes, yes, yes, that's exactly. That's it. If it's not a fuck yeah, it's a fuck no. And recently, unfortunate which I did a lot quicker this time, I I got out of something that was you know, had lots of great checkboxes, but it wasn't a fuck yeah. And and, and it it it was like, okay. That was a faster turnaround time, so that's good. You know?
But it's like I I I cheated on myself, you know? I settled because I had, you know, the emotional like, oh, I I liked attention or I was lonely or it was sexy or all these stuff, right? And and it was like, nope, This is a fuck no, but I still did
[01:49:58] Unknown:
it. Yeah. But this is something more than that. It's more like you come with the knowledge of that you know and you can embody your your your wisdom, but there's one aspect that is attention, like, it's 90 degrees that is actually saying, well, in order for you to trust yourself, you really have to go deeper. This is not gonna be that easy. So this is something that you put as an obstacle, not because you're doing anything wrong, but you actually put it there so you can actually really understand what it is to trust yourself so you can trust others. I'm gonna say that again. You have to learn to trust yourself trusting others. Because what we tend to do is, like, oh, yeah. That person is great, but it's like, do you trust yourself? Turns well, you know, I did I felt something, but no. No. Do you trust yourself? Because then you're not creating an expectation, and this is the difference between somebody betraying you and you betraying yourself.
People do not betray you. You betraying your own sense of of of values. Yep. Exactly. Right? So that's that's you you did that in your chart and doesn't mean this is gonna happen, but the more you practice it, the more at the end of your life you go like, oh, this is a a a hundred. Like, you you know, I got a medal for this because you did that. We all have that kind of, obstacles, challenges. And sometimes if we don't have them natively, we will have them some poor when when the sky keeps on turning around. Like, I was born with a very beautiful chart that nothing there was no problem. So I was like, that can make me very lazy and very arrogant about it. But then middle age, 40 to 50 to 55, I was like, the fuck is going on? And everything. And that's when I was like, okay.
Buckle up. I'll learn. I'll learn my lessons. So we all have opportunities, and that's beautiful. Astrology is alive every day. So we have every day an opportunity when we wake up to actually make the right choices for what it is good for ourselves, not the other. How long have you been how long have you been studying this? Because this is it it is a language as you said, and it's very, it's complex. You know, there's not just like, oh, hi. It's just, you know, how how long have you been doing this? And I'll get I'll take I'll take a couple more minutes of your time. I don't wanna bother you and take up too much. It's okay. So I I started at Stoliger, like, being very curious when I was, like, 9 or 10. I used to read books, and so I my mom was I was driving her crazy. So she's subscribing to, like, a book club kind of thing that you go to the book fair and buy books. And so I used to my mom had a driver for us, not because we were rich, but because, she was very practical. So take us to school, whatever. So this driver that ended up being, like, part of the family, he took me to the the book fair. My mom gave me some money, and I'm gonna buy my books. And then by the end of it, I had already bought my books, and then there's a man sitting down on a table with a red book that where all the planets are. And I said, what are you doing? He goes, I'm an astrologer. And I said, wow. Can I have my chart? It's it's x amount of money. I said, well, let's do one thing. I'll give you what I have left, but then you come with me. I mean, imagine right now doing that. I'm I know. Come with me.
The driver the driver is like, yeah. And my mom will pay you when you get home. So we did that. And my mom is like, who is this person? And I said, oh, I'll tell you later, but we owe him money. Okay. I will talk to you later. He's like, okay. And then he gave me the book. He thought it was really funny. He gave me the book. And then he said, one day you're gonna be an astrologer. And I said, sure. So I did find astrologers throughout and always very interested in teaching and that like that. I did study 2 other times with other people, but the the what happened is, like, the way they were teaching, I I couldn't grasp it. I need, like, a choreography. I need a way of, like, walking through it. And so when I was really, really at the lowest point depressed after my marriage broke, broken, everything, like, not happening. 2016, I prayed every day, please send me something. Please, please. I started listening to sology again in in in in YouTube because I had kind of, like, stopped having anything to do with it. And then I I heard this man speaking to me a couple of like, he's talking to me. So I remember, like, I emailed and I said, I need a chart. He said I was in Colombia. He said, I I only have, I don't know, it was 4:4 AM in where I was. I would I my first chart reading, I was wearing my pajamas in the house of a friend because I was there visiting.
End of the thing, I tell him, okay, what's your name, Simon? I said, Simon, can I learn everything you know? And he looked at me. He goes like, and I said, we start Saturday. And I just milk the cow, and I learn everything because I'm I'm good student. I'm always asking, I have another question. So I studied very, very intensely, and then I started almost immediately doing charts. So I learned a lot by doing charts as well. I did, like, Facebook. I said one day, I'm learning this. I will only charge $20 by donation. I will read only 2 cards. And then these people, when I did it, they came back afterwards and they they became clients afterwards. So I it was trial and error. And and then what happened is, like, I always been a channeler. So astrology is a language, but then I connect with something that you say whatever, and then I just opens up, and I don't even remember what I'm saying. So it's it's it's pretty intense. So, yeah, the basic language.
[01:55:16] Unknown:
Wow. It's you're amazing, and I love I mean, all the insights and and with the human design and stuff as well, that's a whole another language that is I mean, that's I'm still learning that. I'm learning all of it. I'm, like, tiny, tiny bit by bit. I'm like, okay. I'm supposed to go this way and start listening and learning and paying attention. So I can give you, like, places where you can go. I wanna do it for another read. If there's more, I might go I'll I'll hire you to be my my, you know, astrologer reader and tell me some stuff if I need any help. I think I can support you and guide you. I I love doing that. Like, I I I hold those study groups sometimes.
[01:55:53] Unknown:
Oh, cool. Yeah. And so I I have a study group of human design for, like, 2 years now. We we've grown so much because it's actually really about observation and correlation. You observe what's going on. I guide everybody, but I also guide myself and just growing and growing, and it's so beautiful. Same thing. I do study groups of Bitcoin for younger, and for women in South America so they don't have to depend on the paycheck of the, husband.
[01:56:19] Unknown:
It's so important.
[01:56:20] Unknown:
Yeah. So I I'm all, like, pro freedom in any in many ways. So I'm like, okay. If you wanna be free, you have to be financially free, you have to be emotionally free, you have to be spiritually free. You have to be based. You know? You have to get out of the system. That's another thing that I'm doing, but I'll tell you another day. You get out of the system, you get out, and you're sovereign as how you came to this world.
[01:56:40] Unknown:
Yeah. I love that. And, wow. Well, I I wanna share obviously, everybody, I want them to come check out your work at Studio of Endless Ideas and I want them to go follow you on x@bravomonika, m o n I k a, just for those of you listening, if you're on the podcast and stuff. This has been incredible. Thank you so much for taking all this time. I wasn't expecting this to be this long. Like, wow, you're so generous with doing all of the, obviously, everything you do with art and making the world a more beautiful place and a place where people can have conversations and, like you said, feel something in themselves, you know, and feel an emotional experience.
Was it Maya Angelou? She said, People will forget what you say, they'll forget what you do, but they'll always remember how you make them feel. And it's just like, I that's was something that we would always say as when I was doing Valerie and the Vibe Tribe because it was like, it's not about being perfect and it's not about this. It's like, what's the experience that hopefully us as artists and creators can can give others. And it's just it's it's an experience, a feeling. You know? And so And I love
[01:57:50] Unknown:
yeah. And and what I wanna say, the last thing is, like, okay. The book is coming out in a couple of weeks, and then I am thrilled because I started I'm gonna start doing the rounds of conferences as a speaker or Yes. And so I'm gonna start with, adopting Bitcoin. Yes. Good. Shout out to Efrat because she kinda put me in connection. And so I'm gonna do one that is, about, Prometheus and how Bitcoin can be, the catalyst to understand ourselves. And so I'm gonna start talk about astrology, the 4th turning, and I'm I'm preparing that talk, so that's great. And then, Gary Leeland, which is one of my favorite, Bitcoiners out there from, Bit Bloc Boom just asked me to do a workshop. So I'm thinking about something between Bitcoin and Austrian Economics, and so I'm thrilled. I'm, like, serving as myself, bringing the color and, and the joy to the space.
[01:58:43] Unknown:
It's so awesome. And I'm so glad you're in the space as it as it is called, I guess, and and the whole space of Earth. I love what you're doing. I'm so excited and I'm I'm so curious about learning more about, astrology and human design. Of course, everybody needs to go out and get your book. You guys, you can get book the book presale at studio of endless ideas forward slash book presale. It's so beautiful. I can't wait to touch it. I, seriously, I can't wait to see all the things inside of it. And, yeah, this will be fun. I wanna do a follow-up with you and see how it's going after, you know, the book is out and I'm happy to keep promoting it and Thank you.
[01:59:22] Unknown:
Get get the word out for you. Do you have any art installations coming up that, you know, we could we should look at? I'm in New York. I have this beautiful piece at the Grand Central Station, Madison. They just opened up this new place that, gets sold, to the Long Island Railroad. And so at and the at that level where you get there, there's 5 screens, LEDs, really, really big. And so I made an, a piece that is 2 minutes. It's a beaut it's actually very much based on Praxeology. I was very inspired about, like, what is it that it takes humans to build civilization and then destroy it. So in in a ways Mhmm. And and it's buildings that they look like New York, but actually they're buildings that that were never built, made on drawings. And then I have the sky of the Grand Central that is all the constellations going around. Wow. It's it's a beautiful piece and it's made out of collage. So I made all the pieces and they kind of move around but they're very, like, the, like, the cloud looks like a 4 year old girl designed the cloud. So I wanted this and super colorful. I there's one thing I'm gonna say, like, every time that I see my pieces alive because I'm here making everything from a small apartment. This one, I have a big studio, but I I don't wanna do that anymore, you know, too much overhead.
And when I go and see these pieces, I always cry and cry and cry. I call my brother, and he was like, why are you crying? And I said, it's so beautiful. I can't Francois always says, do you remember your room? I say, yeah. You have always doing all these colors. I do you remember? And I'll go, yes, but still so beautiful. So I every time I knew a new I'm the first one that goes like, I thank God. I said, thank you for letting me be this channel. You know, beauty is so important. So yeah.
[02:01:05] Unknown:
It is so important. I love it. And you have a special skill, and I love that you are self taught. And what has come out of you is absolutely remarkable. Like, you you do you do remind me of Gaudi, like, your your beauty and the wonderfulness that you are like, yeah, we don't need to go like this. We're gonna go over here and go do this. And it's just, like, so perfect. I I love it. And I can't wait to see keep, you know, following all the work that you're doing and being your friend now. Yay. I mean, I hope I can call you my friend. And I hope I see you at these conferences. I don't have anything on my docket right this second, but I'm I'm working on getting some ability to get to some of the conferences. So adopting Bitcoin is magic. It's so great down there and I just love it's just the energy of El Salvador. Have you been to El Salvador since the Bitcoin? Oh my god. It you're gonna look into the my first I love what, Bukele is doing.
[02:01:59] Unknown:
I I just gonna give a big shout out. It's like, I if I they give me the passport as a person that can contribute to its suburb. Although I have to say, I love the United States. I have become such a patriot. I understand. I'm studying the constitution, everything. This is one of the most amazing countries in the world. I'm not saying that it is right now, but the opportunity that we have here to be free is, unbelievable. So we have to protect those rights. We do. Because We do. This place. Now I like El Salvador because what he's doing, his program, it's very wide open. Like, he really has a concept, so I respect that. Yeah. And what done is, like, amazing. So I wouldn't mind contributing, but I will let life give me that.
[02:02:40] Unknown:
Oh, I I my mind I'm I'm already envisioning exactly where your art is gonna be. There's this, like, center town. It's like in the middle of the city center and it's got this big, like, old opera house. And we were looking at doing Satoshi the Cyber Opera there and doing this, like, projection mapping music thing and doing this 12 part kind of musical play thing. But,
[02:03:02] Unknown:
I have a I have a feeling you're gonna be doing something down there. I don't know. My intro yeah. Who knows? It just sort of like that. I mean, I'm I'm gonna call it, like, in terms of manifestation, like, I'm gonna put it out there, but then Yeah. If it's the right thing for me and, you know, I'll I'll be very happy to serve as an artist, but also as a Bitcoiner or or educator. Like, it's it's I have diver I mean, I'm I'm not only one thing. Thank god. And so and I'm not in the New York mode, like,
[02:03:29] Unknown:
trying to do everything so I can get it. Like, I don't do that anymore. Things come to me very differently. Yeah. I know. Isn't it the best? I know. I feel the same way. I'm not just like, I'm a Bitcoiner or a podcaster or a DJ or an entrepreneur or a mom. I'm all of the above all of the time, and I don't have to choose. Like, you know, that's, like, so fun, right? And so anyway, it's and and we're we're like we're all the colors of the rainbow all at once, you know, and so because we're light. And so all right. Blah, blah, blah, Val. Thank you.
All right. So thank you again so much. You are amazing and so talented. And, you guys, everybody make sure you get out there and follow Monica and, support her work and send her at Hey. And I can't wait to see you somewhere again soon, Monica. And thanks again. And, everybody who's been listening, thanks for tuning in. I hope this was a great episode for you. And until next time, peace, love and warm aloha.
Hey, aloha. Get ready for an epic episode. And if you love it, please share it. You know why? Because you got the love. Enjoy, my friends. Hey. Aloha, love tribe. Welcome to the show. I have somebody here with me who I've actually been following for a few years on Twitter. She is an insanely beautiful artist. She's a Bitcoiner and an evolutionary evolutionary astrologer. This is Monica Bravo. Welcome.
[00:01:17] Unknown:
Hi, Valerie. I'm so excited to be here.
[00:01:20] Unknown:
I'm excited to have you. This is gonna be a, this is gonna be a first for me to do a show like this. So we're gonna obviously focus on you, focus on your background and everything, but you offered to do a little interactive experience. And I was like, okay. Let's check this out. So
[00:01:37] Unknown:
Trust me. Don't be nervous because you wrote about being nervous. I get it. But I'll be I'll be holding space for you so you whatever I need to, bring to you comes from spirit, and it's something that you probably need to hear today. So that's all. Awesome. Well, thank you so much. Well, so, you know, I remember,
[00:01:55] Unknown:
before I'd I I'm gonna why don't you why why don't you introduce yourself, and then I'm gonna we're I wanna talk about your your the art installation you did at, was it Grand Central Station, right, in New York? Yeah. We'll we'll talk about that next. But why don't you, let everybody know who you are and what's your scoop, and then we'll we'll get into the the nuts and bolts of everything.
[00:02:14] Unknown:
Perfect. So, I'm Monica Bravo. I was born 60 years ago in Bogota, Colombia. That's South America. I'm not a Latina. I'm from South America. I'm joking. I moved to the United States 30 years ago this week. So I moved to Wow. Yeah. And I came to New York to be an artist. That was on my 30th birthday, and it was great. I loved, the idea of being an artist in New York. I actually did not go to art school and that make a very big difference because I was not indoctrinated by the work matrix agenda that is so much in vogue right now. Mhmm. I, decided to go and try it out. That doesn't mean that I'm not educated. It means that I I use empirical practice to understand my world around. And so I just was making art and I got into the network of of working with people and, and started a practice. And so I've been a professional artist for 30 years. That means that I make a living off my art.
But, the interesting thing is also, like, I define, like, a whole language of of art. Those years in New York were very defining, but also, my spiritual world kind of opened up. I always been very mystical since I was little, but it was in New York where I actually decided to do make it into a practice where I seeked for teachers. And I started practices with the Taoist Taoist teacher for 12 years doing martial arts, but mostly a training my mind. Did Kabbalah, did, whole Zen Buddhism, you know, Zen Buddhist, but but the whole shebang. I just wanted to understand the nature of reality.
So that's what happened in New York. And then I escaped the matrix, that's what I call New York, in 2020. After I I had a dream, I actually wanted to leave because the the 2010s, I I realized that, New York had become this place like fake it till you make it, and it was very not it was very phony for me to be there because there was a part of myself that was not really resonating with the the the inner and the outer. And I didn't wanna be in a place where people are very transactional, not that I'm not. You know, I'd like to do transactions and trade, but in the way that you're you're using people, your people are using you as an opportunity so the whole networking thing was something that I completely pushed, away and that also made me push away the people who had been dealing my work, so the middleman.
Because I'm still asking a lot of questions about value. I'm very connected to the sense of value. So I was asking different questions like, why do I have to sign this contract? Why are you getting so much? Are you gonna pay me for the production cost? Like, why are you giving, discounts? Who is paying for the so overall, dealers, they started working with me. They loved me at the very beginning, but halfway through it, they they always have the same thing to say. Like, Monica, you're great. Your work is great, but I think you will be better off managing your own self. So that made me snuck all the time because I said, oh, they actually want easy people they can manage. So that made me think a lot about value and and what was my place in the world.
So I moved here, Miami Beach, after I had a dream and that was 2020, pandemic, and I just, realized that I had a very good time, enough time to inquire things that I wanted to do. Also, I have to say that as an artist, I've been doing a lot of public art. So I am hired by governments, states, universities, subway stations, airports, all kinds of stuff. I've been doing that for a while. And, basically, they give me a bunch of money that comes from taxpayers. Thank you, everybody that's paying taxes. And they give me the opportunity to create something that is actually what the community needs. So I I involve myself in doing a lot of research about what the community needs. Sometimes I do workshops and then it takes time because then I have to hire, I make all the designs and production.
And then I usually hire people in Germany, Italy with mosaics or or glass or when it's I do it myself. So that's in in a nutshell. And, obviously, I've been doing other sorts of languages. Like, I've been interested in astrology since I was little. I bought that book of astrology. I mean, I have a whole story in my book, how how I came into astrology. It was very funny. And so I started inquiry about, philosophical questions when my father died. I was 8. And, I did not understand how come the nuns, Catholic nuns, had come up with the idea that he was already in heaven the day after he died. He died, from a car crash. So I was like, how does that work? I mean, did you get a telegram? Like, and they wouldn't answer. So I said to my mom, mom, I know they were hurting, but I'm not going back to that school of crazy nuns. There were American nuns. They were torturers. So I just left the school, and I went to a school where no religion was gonna be taught. And I started reading all the books that my father left in his library were all about, philosophy, what's happening out there. So he was also a seeker of truth, and so I identified with his write with his readings. And he used to underline the books.
So I started reading what he was underlying. So I was reading Nietzsche, Jung, Schopenhauer since I was, like, 11 years old. So I always been very connected to, wisdom. But I have realized that wisdom is not in the books. It's in the experience of embodying our own truth. So that's just my
[00:07:30] Unknown:
In your, in your artist statement, you talk about you're not a truth seeker anymore. Yeah. And and is that can you talk can you expand on that a little bit here because it seems like that's the thread that that's the connector there about experiential truth versus someone else's version of truth?
[00:07:46] Unknown:
Yeah. So when you're a seeker, it's almost like you're a pilgrim that you decide that you need to live where you're you're very comfortable, family and land, and you get on a horse, like, you know, I'm thinking mythologically. You you just go into a horse and you just, you know, take a couple of things in your arch and your, and your arrows. You know? And you go, okay. I'm gonna seek something, and you just go from town to town, meeting people, experiencing things, eating different foods, speaking different languages, understanding that culture in different places are different, and so you start seeing a relationship between yourself and the other from a different perspective.
So this is a very much aligned with the architect of of, Sagittarius or or Jupiter, which is the true seeker. We're seeking something. And the whole word of seeking, actually doesn't make you arrive anywhere because if you're in a constant seeking, you nothing is ever enough. So I arrived to the point when I moved to Miami Beach that I realized that I had been seeking all my life. I spoke I learned how to speak several languages. That's also part of, like, becoming a polyglot is, like, trying to understand the culture of other places, trying to understand other perspectives. And then I realized that it was not about quantity of information, but rather, like, quality of embodiment.
And I have started being more connected to the body my body and what my body needed and how to make make sense of it and how to integrate and synthesize this knowledge that is through the lived experience that I can actually come to terms
[00:09:16] Unknown:
with the person that I came to be. So that's when I started writing I'm no longer seeking, but I'm embodying my own wisdom or truth. Just Unless I wanna unpack that a little bit and we'll talk about this with your book because I'm really curious about your book. It looks It's so gorgeous. You sent me the Vimeo, little clip. I'm like, Wow, this is really beautiful. I can't wait to touch it and look at it and all. I mean, I love font and color and just the way that things are positioned. I was like, Woah, this is gonna be an awesome book. I can't wait. I wanna go back to seeking and truth seeking because I call myself a truth seeker, and I and and I think there's a couple ways that my brain interprets truth seeking. Right? There's truth seeking on an individual, like, Who am I? Why am I here? What's my authentic role as a human being on planet Earth, right? And so, I believe that that truly does come from within and that does come from lived experiences like you're saying. And on the other, you know, definition for me that I think of with truth seeker, you know, since I became a Bitcoiner, I mean, I've always been somebody who's just, you know, question systems and question, you know, the way that the world is working right now, you know, and I just always think I'm like, that smells like bullshit to me, you know? I've got a huge bullshit radar up here in my nose, you know?
And so I think even more so becoming a Bitcoiner and getting into this, you know, new way of thinking about life and money and value and energy and community and how are we interacting with each other, you know, the more I look at these old systems, I'm just like, Oh my god, like, lie after lie after lie. And so, I'm always wondering, like, where are the threads that the truth can actually come out so that not only us as Bitcoiners and and, you know, creatives and whatnot, but the rest of the world can see the reality of the system
[00:11:07] Unknown:
that they're being you know, the matrix that they're in. And and so can you talk about that a little bit? Because I think there's a, you know, there might be a little bit of a difference and maybe I'm I don't know. Well, not not really. And your chart we're gonna talk about your chart because you have a lot of the tree seeking there. It's actually probably the reason why we're resonating right now. We're meeting today because of that. That is really there, and that's probably why you put some attention to it in my in my website. So the interesting thing is, like, Bitcoin has become such an incredible way for me to synthesize all my practices. I I call Bitcoin a state of consciousness because it meets you where you are at. Yep. Bitcoin meets you only where you're at and then it requires you proof of work. It requires that you take an action, human action, to actually enter into that seeking and then find out how you embody that knowledge, that technology, and therefore how we are going to move towards a new civilization using the principles of the basic principles of life. So that for me is is is how I see all this seeking. And, again, I started embodying, more that truth when I found Bitcoin and understanding that this was not just technology about money, but it was more about value. I was looking I got into Mhmm. Bitcoin because of I've been I've been working a lot in my chart. I have to understand what value is. And so we are very much taught about, you know, have security. Like, when you talk to people who have, like, steady jobs, they always say, I cannot quit my job because I don't have benefits.
And they're thinking about all the things they're gonna lack, but they cannot actually, focus on what they actually have as a human being, that their own resources and assets that actually can make them become independent, free, and perhaps able to, make a whole living without having to wait for other people to give them, what they need. Now I'm not saying that everybody was born to become, like, an entrepreneur or or a entrepreneur or an artist because it's it's it's not what I'm saying, but what I'm saying is, like, we have or we're breaking and this is one of the things that I find fascinating with Bitcoiners is that we're breaking the chains of what was supposed to be happening in society and we are aware of it. Also, I have a theory because I've been doing a lot of charts for Bitcoiners that there's we carry the torch of understanding what trauma is. And our trauma that we understand is a trauma that comes from a lot of generations where power was overused in the in in a terrible way and I'm saying that each one of us also contribute to that trauma. But now the our awareness and our light is to really say, you know, we have another opportunity, we we're creating this new technology that is actually gonna in a way repair, I don't like that word too much, but in a way kind of come to terms that we can make it different this time because we still haven't made it but we could.
So the idea of like finding our own truth is like when you find your own authentic self, when you are okay in your shoes, when you love yourself, when you integrate your inner child, when you do all the work, you can actually contribute in a way that is voluntarily and happily and you don't have to create violence. You know? You're gonna respect the property of your neighbor. You're actually going to to understand that the principles are the most important things. I always say that the principles in in Latin principles is the base. It's the it's the beginning. But then look at the principles like the chart when you look at time, and then look at the integrity like the chart of the price. So everybody has principles some somehow, but then the integrity is where we're gonna bend. So it is important that we understand that we start from first principles, but then each person individually will have to do a lot of work, not only with money, but trauma, emotional, integration. And then we kind of, like, are gonna be able to overcome the generational drama and trauma that we came from. And so that's why I think that Bitcoin is such an incredible opportunity.
But, again, not everybody has to do the same thing. That's the beauty of Bitcoin.
[00:15:10] Unknown:
Yeah. And I think that's also the beauty as we think about our our our personal, you know, transformation, right, and and our metaphor you know, you're you're committed to the transformation and metamorphosis, you say, on your site, and and I am too. I'm a constant, like, how can we keep evolving and growing and always growing? My very first web domain that I bought was called alwaysgrowing. And I wish I would have kept it because I was like, Oh, I wanted to go do personal growth stuff with it and I didn't know anything about setting up a website. This was back in the late nineties. You know? And, anyway but but I feel like as a Bitcoiner, right, when and, obviously, as an artist and as a, a spiritual person, like, there's no destination.
There's no destination of like, I'm here. I'm done. You know, this it's this constant rabbit hole journey of of moving in through like, woah. So this part of my life is gonna have like a light shined on it now or shown on it, And I get to heal here. I get to start learning more about community here. And so, I know it's been just such an unexpected journey becoming a Bitcoiner because I just didn't realize how spiritual it was, you know, and I never thought of money as like having consciousness or a spiritual component to it, you know. Like, do you know who Lynn Twist is? No. She wrote a really wonderful book called The Soul of Money. And so it was her journey in, you know, this corporate y kind of stuff and then turning into more of the consciousness of money and whatnot.
And, she's somebody who I definitely wanna interview. I don't know if she's a Bitcoiner yet. I mean, everyone will be eventually. Yeah. It's always a yet, right? Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, I wanna talk about the art component of your life because, you know, you've done a lot of public art installations, and I'm really passionate about public art and I'm passionate. Gaudi, when I went to Park Guell, that changed my life forever. Forever. And I was and I love mosaics. I like I don't know. You can see it somewhere. I have a little I made that little thing, and I'm not, like, a hardcore artist. I'm a dabbler artist, but I love art. Obviously, I love creativity. I love self expression. And it was just such a gorgeous, way for people to come together fluidly, you know, in nature, and it was permanent. You know? And so I wanna talk about your public art and, like, what has it been like for you going from maybe, you know, not doing what's, you know, not public art to public art and how has it transformed
[00:17:38] Unknown:
you as an artist and how has it, you know, what's the impact that it's left on the folks who've gotten to be a part of your public art? I'm gonna pull up your website and show it right at that right now. Is that okay? Yeah. Yeah. You can show the one at Grand Central, and then if you scroll afterwards down, I think the one that is very beautiful is a police station and and yeah. That's 1. Yeah. And then 2 or 3 down, there's a police station. It's called Unas Mundus or even the airport. So I'm gonna speak a little bit about it. So so great. Thank you. So when I when I realized that I I was completely devoted to public art, that was probably 12 years ago or something like that, I realized that I was going to be of service. I also say that I'm of service because Mhmm. When you create for a community, you are not creating for a person with a last name and a first name. You're creating a a component that is gonna be part of their lives whether they're traveling there, they're sitting down, they're I mean, it it's gonna be part of their psych psyche. Right? Yes.
And so I always feel that it's such an honor to be able to be given the opportunity to create something where I can listen about the needs of that community and then I can come back and just do my channeling and I create the work. I'm very structured when I create work. I'm I'm not like like I allow a lot of ideas to come through and then I have this very discerning mind that knows what needs to stay or not. I love to experiment with new materials, so I'm always the 1st to try something new. Now when you do commissions, people wanna make sure that you can make make it. People, they give you a lot of money so they wanna make sure you're not gonna run away with a with a whole lot. They they wanna make sure that you're able to create one idea and then make it happen because you're alone producing the work. You're you're giving full, like, reign of of the whole project for a couple of years. So I started doing I think I remember the first time that somebody wanted a commission that was in 2005. My my my galleries back then, he called me, says, hey. These people want I think it's the hotel of, there's a hotel the Peninsula Hotel in Hong Kong, and they wanted a specific job, like, piece. I think it's still there in the elevator. And I remember being like, I don't wanna work for anybody. I don't want people to tell me what to do. And he laughed when he came back and he goes, Monica, let's put it this What about this? What about you do what you want and they pay you? And I said, how can I make sure that I do what I want? And then we we kind of sorted out, and I said, maybe if I do a proposal and they pay me for the proposal. So that's what happens. When peep people can still commission me, I I tend to have more bigger commissions from, like, institutions, but I I'm for hire for, like, private commissioners. But I do have some requirements. I want to make sure that the person's gonna take care of the work afterwards because I've been corporations to just basically trash the work just because it's it's like I don't know.
I don't understand, but because the public work, they actually take care of it. So I I have a commitment to the work, takes 1, 2 years sometimes to be able to make it, and so I am very in tune with what the the community needs. This is really my main thing. Now I love playing with color. If I tell you that I started as black and white photographer in the eighties, you will not believe it. I stay Oh my god. No way. I was a portrait and fashion photographer in Europe, and it's all black and white. I actually was very good. That's how I got the visa to get to this country. I came as a outstanding alien as a photographer. But once I landed here in 9 1994, I said, I don't wanna be a photographer. So I went back to school just to experiment, and I was standing in the loft of a very famous artist. It was a sub Japanese, and he was a video artist from Israel. You you already passed.
And, the person that we were staying we were just a bunch of kids staying in this beautiful loft in Soho. And so one of them just broke into, like, his archives, and we had all these video machines. So I just pick up whatever. I mean, I he I told him later. I was, like, embarrassed to tell him because we ended up being in an exhibition. He goes like, okay. So I sacrificed those cameras because you became this person. It was through his equipment. So I started, kind of playing with video, and I really enjoyed the idea of making moving images. But I knew then that I wanted to do multi discipline. I didn't want it to just stay with photography or just animation to experience and experiment. And I was very blessed to have the opportunity to do that, to be able to earn a living, and to have actually, people who who come and say they want my work. So now I'm I know why, but at the beginning, I couldn't believe it. I was like, are they crazy?
Because I I didn't go to art school. I don't believe in in academia. I think that they the people that come out, they're just serving the regime, and they're not really making the work that is coming from their soul, from their spirit. And they're just like little cut you know, cut cookie cutter things that are, I don't relate to that anymore.
[00:22:27] Unknown:
Oh my god. I I love hearing this because, you know, I I agree. I I feel like especially art and music, like, I never went to to DJ school or music school. It's like I'm the vibe goddess, and so my whole job is to tune in to, like, the energy of the music and the energy of the people and how does this flow together and does it light me up? Because if it lights me up, it's gonna light them up. And and so and if it doesn't light me up, I'm gonna be bored, and this is not gonna be fun for any of us. You know? It's not gonna be fun. It is no joy. Yeah. And I I remember I did some corporate gigs, you know, and I did some weddings just to make some extra money, and it was just like, oh my god. I feel like I'm eating, like, sweet and low saccharin packets of not me. Like, it wasn't me, and I'm like, I'm not doing this. Like, this isn't for me. So I'm only gonna do it if it comes from my heart and my soul. And and, obviously, I wanna refine my craft and learn, you know, and it's like, how does this go together? And do these, you know, keys go well and whatnot? But it's more like I want my intuition in my heart and my soul to meet be the captain of the whole experience. And it sounds like for you, you did that in addition to, obviously, how does this work? How do I do a video projector here? And how do I map it? And how do I do this textile?
And how do I make this cool thing go over here on this screen to here? Like, it's so much fun. Right? It's infinite canvas.
[00:23:51] Unknown:
At the very beginning, I have to say it was very funny. At the very beginning, I had to make a living when I stayed in New York. So I had x amount of money when I arrived, and then I knew. So I did get a job with a photographer. She's an artist, and she's still good friend of mine. She's, like, 20 years my senior. Love her very much. And, she needed, like, a studio manager, and I had already had a career as a as a photographer. So I said, you know, I can do something that is really ABC. So we ended up, like, I ended up, like, making a living and stuff like that. But then I started that's when I started, like, experimenting. And I forgot what I was gonna say. Oh, yeah. So she was doing also wedding photography on the site. And so I was managing her wedding photography, but I was like, she's charging so little. I'm so, like, bold with prices. Like, I'm like, why not? Good. Yeah. Like, I was putting it up, and she was like, they're never gonna pay me. I was like, just watch. And she had, like, very high end clients. You know? JPMorgan vice presidents of this and this and that. So I was like, alright. This so one day, one of these bankers came, and she said, do you do video? And she says, no. I don't, but Monica does. I had just, like, started making, like, moving images, and I turned around and I said, you know, like a makeup face. She goes, you can do it. And then she said, how much do you charge? So I didn't wanna do it.
I didn't wanna do it. So I said the most insane number. And then and Maxine looked at her, like she was like, what are you doing? Because, you know, this is her client, and I'm and and then I go, like, whatever, like, something like that. She goes, do you accept the deposit? And I'm like, yeah. And then I asked for, like, half of it, and she said yes, and my ex boss was asking for the minimum. I kept on saying, your your deposit is ridiculous. I mean, you're booked, like, 1 year before, and you're just having, what, $200? Are you crazy? You have to at least have and she wrote me a check, and then she left, and she goes, what was that? And I said, first of all, this was your idea. I didn't wanna do this. But now with this check, I can buy the equipment. And then I'm gonna call my best friend that I think she's going to film school, and we're just gonna do the so we did videos for, like, 3 years.
Charge so much money. I there were funny videos. I no interview. I was like, we're arts artist. What what are we gonna get? Are you gonna get something really funky? So we ended up doing this video. I learned a lot to edit and deliver and be doing proof of work because you were giving a lot of money at the beginning. But after a while, there was an there an agent call us, and we had a chat with my friend then. And do you wanna do this? And I said, I actually don't want to pursue it this way because then I'm gonna stop being an artist. So that's the moment I actually, like, say, no. My heart is in the art, but it Yeah. Paid me off. Like, we bought all the equipment and everything that I needed. So computers, everything. So that was a funny story. I know. And, like, sometimes you have those learning chapters. Right? And you never know, especially,
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like, you're like, no. They're never gonna say yes. And it's like, oh, shit. No. I gotta do it. And then it's like, spirit was like, nope. You're coming over here. You're gonna go do all this whole thing. And so what a cool journey. Right? And you didn't back out and say, no. Never mind. Psych. And so that was really I mean, I applaud you for that, you know, to say yes to that and continue down that path for 3 whole years. And I'm sure that it totally influenced your technical ability and all the other stuff that you've, you know, created at scale. Let's go back to the public art though, Liz. I wanna I'm curious if there's have you had any experiences in any of your installations where, you know, whether it was a corporate thing or a park or the subways or anything where, you know, people are gathering where you got feedback that you weren't expecting?
Like in a bad way, like like ugly feedback? No. No. No. Just more like, oh, my gosh. This you know, whatever. Any feedback that you were just like, wow. I didn't know that somebody would have that experience with my art. Because here's the thing. There's some
[00:27:34] Unknown:
it's it's very interesting. I've written a little bit about it, and I don't think it's in the book, but I've written about, like, the power of being of service with a medium that you don't know who's gonna be the receiver. Mhmm. Because when you, for instance, create art and you have an exhibition, museum show, and somebody buys it, whether it's a museum or the collector, you end up meeting the person. Even if for just say thank you. I mean, there there's there's so knowledge about the name of the person or, like, with the collection or something else. So there's there's somebody with the name and last name or or or presence. Right? Mhmm. The repeat and all that. But when you do public art, you don't know how many people and who and what and how they're gonna feel. So my intention when I create the art is always how I want the people to feel. Like, I want them to have a sense of awe, where I want to surprise them, I give them joy, like, I I put that intention. So I know that even if one soul passes by a day and gets that energy and that, you know, resonance of what I'm I've been putting into the work, I will be very happy. I don't feel it. So I have, however, a lot of these works, they have a plaque and they have a name and, you know, I'm Googleable, very easy. So people find me on on Instagram. Sometimes they send me images and they say, oh my god. I I love that you did the subway station. For instance, I have one in Brooklyn.
And, they usually tell me there's not a date that doesn't pass in by by pass by that I don't discover something new. So what I say is that I create platforms for people to be able to reconnect to themselves. So that's what my the purpose of my work. And so it is not required for me to be a witness of that because I already did the work. The work is out there. It's a platform. If you want to come back and tell me how you felt, it's beautiful for me to receive it, but it's not a requirement. So when I do and I actually love when people, connect back to me and say I heard you say this or I saw you say this and and you brought this and as I always go, like, tell me more about what you were feeling because this is really what I want to initiate and igniting people their own sense of power. So this one is, this is very interesting piece because I was called to do, like a sculpture or like a mobile because I've written when I applied for this that I was gonna make one. So when I got hired, there's a very big, commission for the East Boston Police Department, they said, Monica, you wrote that you were gonna make some hanging, sculpture. And I said, yes. And they said, do you know how to do it? And I said, no.
Quiet. I'm on a Zoom. And they go, how are you gonna do it? And I said, you give me the money, I hire the best people. And they all laughed and they said, okay. We're gonna get you. So I ended up doing this, hire the best people. I did all the design. I I'm very I'm on top of my production, so I know what I want. And this was beautifully done. And and and so their words, like, this is police department. This is 2020. Everybody wants to defund the police. All my ex friends from New York call me a traitor because I'm working for the state. You know, the whole thing. And I was like, dude, I mean, this is like half a $1,000,000.
You're gonna say no to the opportunity not the money, the opportunity to create something meaningful for the community room where, like, there are people clashing. And so I ended up making these beautiful, workshops for the community. There are many of them are from El Salvador. This is in East Boston and Colombia. And so I I put together policemen and people from the community so we could learn about dialogue. During 2020, I did a lot of workshops with Gabor Mate and Peter Levine. Like, I I did Oh my god. I know. Oh, wow. All of that. So I learned how to, facilitate and hold space and understand what dialogue really means.
And, so I was training for that, part because of this. I I started it before, but I understood. Oh, now I know why I did that. So I ended up having these workshops where I we we made, like, mobiles in paper where we're expressing our feelings towards one another but not the way they the wolf expressed their feelings like, oh, you you know, I'm hurt. You shouldn't say this. The other way around is when you empower yourself and you say, you know, I don't feel comfortable with this. Maybe we should talk about this later. Like, you know, a little bit of nonviolent communication, maybe you know about that. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. So I created this, and it was it was great. I ended up installing it, I think, 2 months ago. I got call from somebody else from Boston. They love it so much. They so we're in talks right now to make another thing somewhere in Boston because they just say, every time we go there, it's just, like, so magical. So, I mean, you not imagine. This is a police station. I mean, This is all color. So that's what I wanted to give them the possibility to understand that maybe through dialogue, we could talk to one another. The the mobiles are made out of words. So I use words that are very important for, like, service. So one is service, the other one is courage, the other one is, embodiment, and, the other one is vocation, which is one of my favorite words because it means a calling. When you have a calling to do something, then you can channel that energy. So, yeah, that's that's that piece and there's mosaic there. Oh my god.
I just I do a lot of I I just play. That's what I do. Like, I just have fun. When I'm I'm in my studio, I'm just having fun. And the book is the same thing. Like, everything is just for me to be able to to channel joy, color, and to be able to to remind people that we're all light. And, you know, right now, we need a lot of light in this world, I have to say. We need so much light. We need more color, more light, more connectivity.
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I mean, I think, you know, I always say that the powers that be are constantly trying to to make us numb, dumb, sick, scared, broke, angry, hungry, lonely, tired, and horny. And that way, we can be distracted. And so instead of, you know, focusing on what the truth is inside, which to me is love and God, spirit, universe, whatever, you know, words we like to use, you know, we're being so easily distracted and our hormones and chemicals are getting hijacked, our traumas are getting exacerbated, you know, from a fear based perspective. Wow, this is so insane.
You know, so the more that I think we can bring art and beauty and reminding ourselves and each other that this is actually why we're here on Earth, it's not to fight, it's not to power over and control, it's to be creative, it's to build, it's to make, you know, the next iteration of the generations better. So one generation, like our goals, I mean, as a mom, I'm always like, How can I make my life a little bit stronger and more healed so that my children's world can get stronger and healed? I mean, this is just this is remarkable. What did did any of the police like, did you have anybody that was, you know, who got to work there? Were they just like, I'm so happy that I get to come here every day and see your Oh, yeah. So I went to install,
[00:34:17] Unknown:
and I I went to install first, and it was, like, 2022. And then there was a big opening 2023, and I ended up going 2 times. And, you know, I had done the workshop, so you start connecting to people. So I became friends with a contractor, and you you just, like, establish relationships with people for 2 years because you're working together on a project. So by the time that it was up, it was funny because I met a lot of people always on Zoom. So the day that I arrive, I realized they they all realized that I'm a midget, and and we were looking all up, and they were like there was one who was, like, racing me. I was like, you wanna see if, closure? And I was like, put me down. And but it was it was funny. Everybody was just so joyous and asking me, like, really real questions because a lot of this mosaic, they have images from what Boston used to look like before.
So that's this is in the same area where Logan Airport is. So if people don't know, this area is just pure landfill. And before there were 5 islands that Oh, wow. Looking out there. And so what I did is, like, I was with 2020, so I'm thinking a lot about separation and bipolarity and, like, right and wrong. And so I said, well, I'm gonna represent the idea of separateness and then also the idea of, like, looking for what is our vocation, our service, and stuff like that as supposed to just be pointing fingers. So that's why, like, a lot of the figures and everything, they're very conceptual. I I have, like, an answer to everything. So, a lot of images from, like, the the first policeman and I don't know if you know, but the first policeman in the United States were in the city of Boston. They were called the watchmen. So I have, like, the the image of the of the police station. It's been printed there. And so they were discovering. They go like, oh, you have this. You have that. And I said, yes. So I I make these little things there so people kind of spend time and start discovering little nudges that I put there, nuggets for them to discover afterwards.
[00:36:06] Unknown:
I think it's so cool, Monica, too, just like what you were saying about the the the bipolar, the the the like things intersecting, you know, like things that are split but then they're together. And I I just was I've been noticing that on a lot of these particularly because it's like you can certainly have, Oh, cool. This is so nice. It's a gradient and it's gonna go from left to right and la, la, la. But you have a lot of intersections and disruptions, but they still go together, you know, and there's something about, like, the flow of that, but it's kind of like, yeah, we're we're we're not this perfectly wonderful gradient all the time. Like, that's not what Yes. It's a construct Yeah. It's a construct that we
[00:36:47] Unknown:
grow and, you know, I've done a lot of work with, Jungian psychologists who is about the shadows. So where you put the light, it's not about becoming the shadow or becoming the light. It's about integration. So I like to play with colors that way and then bring a little bit of disruption that then it it's gonna become harmonic one way or another with through the shapes. And I I use a lot of these shapes. You know, these shapes are very precise. They speak, I make a lot of reference to art. So I really like a point on art that was called the Bauhaus, the school of the Bauhaus in Germany in the twenties, where it gather a lot of architects, designers, textile artists, musicians, theater. It was like really a bubble of creativity.
And there's an artist there that later came to the United States, and he was one of the most import important pedagogues in in art school, and everything was called Joseph Albers. So during the twenties, in Bauhaus, he created this font case, that is made of half a circle, have, have, square, and he made the alphabet. So this word these figures that you see, they're all part of that of of that. So I'm playing with history. I'm playing with real shapes. I'm playing, like, I always I work a lot with time, but I see time as a continuum. But I like to think that I can just go through the tunnel of time and bring some stuff from there, put it together, and they make a contrast between the now and then and the future.
[00:38:09] Unknown:
It's so cool. And then so this is the is this the first person the first, police officer, like, you said that was wearing it? Because this looks like it's
[00:38:17] Unknown:
Yeah. There yeah. There's there's like a police station. This yeah. Oh my god.
[00:38:22] Unknown:
It's just so cool. God, what a what a wonderful world you get to live in.
[00:38:29] Unknown:
I didn't know. I didn't create. I mean I never imagined that you do this, but then once it came to me, I like, I said no, and then I said okay. And now it's like, give me more. But but I also, like, I don't like hoarding things. So I think that all the projects that are coming to me, the I'm a deep meditator, so I never asked for, like like, greed, but I said give me what is supposed to come to me so I can actually grow more. And so come and and they bring challenges not only materially, but, like, conceptually or even dealing with certain people. There's always, you know, we're we're we're in this world all Sure. Projecting shadows to one another. So for me, though, the work has become a way to integrate my own shadows and I use my artwork and now my writing and to really understand who I am. And I have still a really funny story. I've been in with a bad pain, all this is because I realized yesterday I have a kidney stone. I'm gonna tell the whole story. This morning, I was in prayer, and I was like, okay, little stone. Tell me what is it that I need to learn because I know everything is a teaching. And it was so amazing. My grandmother came through. She recently, it was her birthday 2, 3 days ago, a 120 years she was supposed to be. And she came, she said, there was an image of a river, kidney, water. And then she said to me, shift and move and shake. So I have to move. And I know because maybe my energy is very sechnated because of the book. I've been staying too many hours on front of the computer.
And then she said something very beautiful has to do with the eclipses for me and for everybody. She says, preserve only what is needed and let go and with the flow. The the water is gonna wash it through. So the dissolving that your little rock has to do has all those things and emotions that you have crystallized the last 16 years, ex marriages, ex friends. Nobody talks to me right now from the art world because now I became persona non grata because I'm a Bitcoiner and just, like, I'm pointing fingers. And so I was angry. And so the stone is talking to me and I'm like, oh my god. So I always bring an opportunity like this, even my artwork or something to tell me something about my life and my growth.
[00:40:39] Unknown:
Wow. That is amazing. I know. And it's like when you listen, you can obviously connect these dots and understand all the little lessons that are there for us. And I find it interesting, you know, the crystallizing emotions and obviously, we do that and then we think like, Oh, no, no, no, I'm processing them. But then there's like little fragments that it's like, nope, I'm still holding on to this thing and then it starts to grow and then it starts to turn into more of a mass versus, okay, it's just out there and it's not attached. And so what are your thoughts on I'm gonna go sideways here but I think it's probably appropriate. What are your thoughts on on because on entities?
And, you know, you just brought up your grandmother. And and do you believe, like, are there entities out there that can attach themselves to us and to our energy bodies and to, you know, try to act like little vampires, you know, like little energy suckers?
[00:41:37] Unknown:
Okay. So I'm gonna tell you something that I learned from my Dallas teacher because I I grew up in a place that there's some Santeria in Colombia, like, voodoo. They do that. And I know stories. I won't go into details. So I remember, learning with him. We learned a lot about energy, where he was my real teacher of energy. And so he said something to me one day, and he says, look, because we're all resonance, he says, if you wanna keep on believing in that, that's what's gonna be around you.
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Okay.
[00:42:07] Unknown:
And then if you want to transcend that, vibration, you're going to attract other kinds of entities. So they're no longer entities, like, in the lower realm, like Mhmm. Like like, kind of dark. But then you actually start connecting to the angelic or or archangel kind of entities that is really, like is another dimension. So I think of dimensions that we're here in the material three d dimension, but I can sense. I am very psychic, so I can sense stuff. And when I connect to, my higher self, I used to always connect to 4 guys that I had at this side of my brain when I was little that now I know that's my consciousness. But I had always these guys like, you didn't do your homework. It's like, come back later. You know? Like, he was always telling me those little voices, but now I know that there was a, like, a higher self, like, this high priest kind of it was neither female or male, but they were this energy that was telling me always, okay.
This is not okay or this is okay, but not judgmental, but mostly it was my consciousness that it was actually had a relationship. And I said it was in the second floor because many times I was like, la la la la la. Like, I don't wanna hear that. Right? But with time, I embrace them. And so, my mother recently passed. She passed, like, a year ago, and my dad died when I was 8. So I I said to my mom, she before she died, she's like, man, you really waited 50 years after my father died, don't you, to take care of us. I mean, she was really incredible. So I saw her die. I I knew she was getting ready. She had a stroke last, she was 90 years old. She had Alzheimer's. So I saw her losing herself within the years.
But the more she lost herself, the more I was able to connect to her spirit. So I I had joy for the last 4 or 5 years of my life to be able to connect to my mother at levels that are not physical, And I was able to prove that. So is she an entity or not? I don't think so. She's the spirit of my mother, and she was very spiritual in a way. She's very connected to something, higher. So she has come through me throughout this year, only that she stopped kind of like a week ago. Because I know that right now she's ready to go to another realm. But she came to me 3 times this year. And one of them, I was like, mom, where are you? Because since she died, I was like, all the time talking to her, talking to her, and just loving her so much. I think this one I understood that love is eternal, loving my mother because I came through her.
And, the first time I said to her, that was like, a year ago, she she died on September last year, and I said, mom, where are you? Where are you? And she said, call your siblings. 10 months later, mom, are you with dad? What the hell? Where are you? And she says, yes. Both of them were here with you, but remember, you are part of us. Okay. Then 3 months ago, something like that, I said, okay, mommy. This is not fun anymore. You used to be around, and now I have to really call for you. And then she says, you want you want me to be there with you? And I said, yes. And I said, well, I am within you as and so is god.
You wanna connect to me? You connected to god. And I was like, well and that was like a mic drop. I was like, okay. I'm no longer gonna ask you. And she says, just trust you. You you you trust yourself. That's all. So I I know that she's around, but the 1st year was like that part where you because I somewhere I read or I was told that when you lose both of your parents, you're on your own. You're this is like inner and outer authority, so I'm free right now. Completely free. And I just wanna make sure that I'm free in the right place. But yeah. So I I do believe in in this, but I I want to tune into the light. Even Twitter. Like, these days, I'm like, oh my god. This is so much trash. I have the filter because I it's easy for me to just go and go, like, and send to people, like, did you see this? No more darkness.
Just,
[00:46:03] Unknown:
yeah. Because we can attach that, energy around us. That is true. Yeah. That is true. Yeah. And so I'm so sorry for your loss and and I'm glad that she's free from, my bonus mom had Alzheimer's and it was just one of those it's so sad, you know, when you see these wonderful humans that you care about disintegrate into these people who aren't functioning in a way that they used to get to function. And so, yeah. And I know. And I think talking with with like, you you nailed it. Right? So to me, and same thing with your teacher, it's like if we continue to stay disciplined and focused on the light and on the higher vibrational states of being and, you know, I was talking about this with somebody yesterday and, you know, I've been doing some hypnotherapy sessions lately and just going through a lot of stuff. And I've been visualizing this like pyramid. And anytime something I need to transmute, it's going up to the light throughout the pyramid and going into something good. But then I was just like, I know it's like, how do I prevent the little things from coming in? And so, I was like, I imagine it like, you know, for me, energy I've done lots and lots of energy work forever. And it's like when I don't practice it every day, it's like I'm leaving my doors and windows open. Yes. Yes. And the critters are coming in and they're making a nest and they're pooping on the deck and they're doing all the stuff and I'm just like So, it's like, if I'm not disciplined with my energy hygiene and staying in that higher state, then all that stuff can happen. And you just nailed it, of course, with, like, what goes on in Twitter. Like, I I had to take these apps off the phone for a while because I just I kept realizing. I'm like, uh-oh. I'm I'm the raccoons are pooping in my cereal every day. Like, this is not good.
[00:47:46] Unknown:
This is also I Susan, I think in your church, you have something I will talk about it is like and I also have it is like the the most important thing is learn how to say no because we are certain souls, we come with a very open Yep. Psychic world. So we don't know that there are boundaries, but boundaries, the first thing a person saying in this world that needs to learn without feeling guilt or guilty is saying no. So I do I'm very good with boundaries right now. I
[00:48:13] Unknown:
people don't like me right now. I don't care because it's about my safety space. And I will say no, no, and no is no. So It's so true. So I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna plug this really quick because this completely has to do with boundaries. Like so I went through a giant colossal life shit show, fell apart, you know, 8 ish years ago. And I got these messages of like, Okay, you're supposed to write a book. You're supposed to tell these stories. And really, you know, I'm like, what's the basis of it other than just to hear this is what happened? And what I kept realizing was, like, over you know, and I made this whole 11x code and project, so I'm gonna be launching that soon. But it was about, you know, saying yes to my nos and no to my yeses.
Yes. Over time, again and again and again. And as a people pleaser and a healer and a creative, I, of course, I wanna go, Oh, la la la. And I just think of like overcompromised leads to demise. And so unless we like boundaries are actually a sign of love and they're a sign of care for yourself and other instead of just like, Okay, I'll just do it just to try to please you, but it's not really my truth, you know? And so you turn into an accidental liar,
[00:49:21] Unknown:
you know, when when you do that. And so But there are practical ways to do it, and we're gonna go a little bit step by step. I'm gonna focus on a couple of things in your chart because it is there and and it is something that you're going through. I also went through that, and it's about, creating a deep relationship to your needs. And if you know what your needs are and your values are, then you can actually create a structure for what is it that you say yes and no, and it's not a constant. It's now. Like, what is it that you now? So and it's a practice. It's like, as you say, if you meditate, whatever, because you can protect yourself with, like I mean, I like crystals and I like that, but I don't want to depend on those artifacts only because I wanna be able to say yes and no. That's all. Totally. And that's so cool you said that. And that's I'm so curious what this is gonna say because this whole
[00:50:10] Unknown:
thing that I'm working on, this 11x love code, it's about writing your Bushido code, your warrior code, and really starting to get like a MeHD in understanding yourself. And because a lot of times, we go through life and these things happen and I'm like, How did this get so far over here where I thought I was this person and I thought these were my values and I thought and then, you know, you just end up you know, making these decisions incrementally and sometimes big ones, you know, and you didn't check-in with yourself like, Is this really for me? Is this for God? Is this for my mission? Is this for my vision? Is this for why I'm here? Or am I doing this thing because I need to feel, like, accepted? Am I feeling lonely? Am I horny? Am I wanting to be long? Am I feeling, lack or scarcity? And so, all of those things, like, unless we can come up with that, like, that compass, that operating, you know, system that is ours, it it it's like we're gonna be easily pulled in all these directions, which is what happened to me. And and it still does and I still keep making mistakes because I'm like, well, maybe I'll just kinda hope that this thing changes. And it's like, no. There's the situation that's in front of you and it's as is. And so, if it's good enough as is, is it a yes? Great. If not, check the you know, because you can't fall in love with, you know, a job or a situation or a house or a person that your hope is gonna change like because it may not. And then you end up being like, Oh gosh, I wasted all this time and energy. And so, I'm really learning the as is, you know, and looking at my decision making filtering matrix and mechanism with this code. And so, this will be fun to chat about, with that. So, but the Snap Goes, The Human Story series is kinda like chicken soup for the soul. And my goal is to use, you know, people's stories anonymously from all over the world that wanna talk about anything that happened in their life, you know? Did they get cheated on? Did they have, you know, an abortion? Did they have an addiction? Did something horrible, you know, anything that happened that they wanna have a before, during, and after ability to share their transformation, you know, and then create an opportunity, of course, because I'm a Bitcoiner. I wanna use value for value and then teach people about Bitcoin because it's like, cool. In perpetuity, we can have lightning splits for all the people who submit these stories. And so if people are tipping them, if we have the books published, if we have anything out there rather than just like a one time, you know, little chunk of payment, which is what Chicken Soup does, which they're amazing, 500,000,000 copies sold, we get to have Bitcoin and we get to teach all these new people about Bitcoin and how cool it is because then all of a sudden, they've got little and they're like, ding, ding, ding. I why am I getting, oh, somebody read my story.
Oh, you know? Like, how cool is that? So anyways, if you guys are listening, check it out. Submit. You can submit a 100 stories as as many times as you want with anonymous, you know, names. And I'm doing it I want people to submit anonymously because if you have a domestic violence story, for example, and you want to protect the children from the ex getting angry because you actually want to get this off your chest but you don't want to throw that person under the bus, this is a safe place to do that, you know. And so so I think that's a very cool, important thing.
So, okay, so let's talk about your so I wanna talk about the book. I mean, do you wanna do the book in the car? No. The book is here. I mean, I I just came from the printer. It's Yay.
[00:53:41] Unknown:
My work, and it's made out of I mean, they can see everything in the website, but let me see if I can show you the so it's it's made up in a way like I make my artwork. It's, it's ideas that came through. I've I've been writing all my life, but I I never did anything with it. And around 2 years ago or something like that, I met these people, this this groups that I that I did on that I belong to online in the 20 twenties, 2021 while I was learning all these things about circling and and non violent communication, everything. So I met this woman called Marie Good luck. And at one point, I don't know, she said something, like, in the group or whatever. She said, like, I do transcripts, and I said immediately. I'm always thinking about, like, something new. I'm like, oh my god. I have so many things. So I just said, how much do you charge per minute, per hour? She goes, I don't know. She had never done it. And she says, I'll do it for free. I said, no. You're not gonna do it for free. I will never give you anything for free because I don't wanna owe you anything. Like, I know the question of value. So she said, okay. Let's try. She came out. I actually put it very difficult for her. I said, come back and tell me a price. It took you, like, 3 weeks, and I went point, I said, like, do you wanna do this or not? Because I'm ready to pay, but and and she came and she came out with a good price. So I dumped her a lot of my audios, and she start transcribing.
So a couple of months passed by. We didn't never even meet on on Zoom. I see her here and there. And then one day, she said she needed to talk to me, and I said, what's going on? And she said, if you ever wanna write a book, I would like to be part of it. And I said, a book? Because I wanted to organize a little bit my thoughts. And then she said, you have an amazing book. And I said, okay. Deal. I write it, but you co edited it. You put it together. I'm not gonna do that. And so we started working like that. And so she basically took a lot of the writings, and she organized it in a way that basically she says the main theme that she wanted us to do was my own path of individuation, which is, like, freedom from pain, from financial freedom, all that. So I was writing since the, like, the she got writings from 2020, 2021, 22. So as I started really studying deeply Bitcoin, and then I went to study with Cepheidian Austrian Economics and all that.
I started writing about it. Because at the beginning, I didn't know what Bitcoin was, really, so I started writing about it. And I have a substack, so I was kind of writing about blockchain and mining. But but more like from my perspective, always making a comparison. So I ended up writing. It makes, you know, Bitcoin makes an entrance there. I talk a little bit about energy, but I I speak more from that state of consciousness that I think is important important in how it has empowered me to go deeper into understanding the history of money, the history of, like, the big, like, scam that we live in in the art world is a scam. Like, I'm I'm completely, like, telling few of the friends that speak to to me. It's like you don't understand that everything has to do with fiat scam. Like, you don't understand it, so you have to go back. So in a way, this book was always meant to be like a journal that I'm sharing, and so it it is for many people because some people are interested in astrology. I do speak a little bit about the archetypes.
And, but it's not an astrology book. You will if you wanna learn a little bit, there's a kind of like a game thing in the middle where you can actually learn the archetypes. And then, the last part is, like, if you're not a Bitcoiner, you you heard this word Bitcoin whatever in with few of the chapters where I speak about what is really essential for me in Austrian economics and and Bitcoin, I end up with a very beautiful chapter where I I I I'm always trying to look for historical people that for me, they were Bitcoiners without knowing. And one of them is Dante Alighieri. He's a a very important figure in the Italian language. So he's in the middle ages.
He lives around the same era where the crusades end, the play how to say the plague was happening. And, this is prior to renaissance. And so he there's also a a, cycle of Pluto, like the one we're having right now that is the end of a cycle same that we were having during the American revolution, same when the church broke in 2 in 15 36. So I'm always looking at time changes and seeing how things are repeating or or have a tendency to bring the same kind of energy. So I look at Dante from point of view of an artist, and then I use another writer that looks at him at the same way. And so it's very symbolic the way I talk about the banking system from then, how it compares to Bitcoin right now. So it's it's actually a very lyrical chapter. It's kind of long. It's one of the longest, and it's almost towards the end where I just say, okay. This is the synthesis of like, if you read the book, you go like, oh my god. Monica is all over the place, but maybe she makes sense. Maybe.
[00:58:22] Unknown:
Well, I it is it's such a challenge, I think, you know, to encapsulate, like, the whole system of the world. You know? And so and, obviously, everything is interconnected. And, like, when I created this 11x thing, it's like, how is everything touching each other in my little mind so that I can, like, reverse engineer and make sense of things? And so it seems like we're definitely sense makers. Like, we're seeking what how does this fit and how do these things touch each other? And I think it's like, does everything touch everything? And I think it does. You know? There's nothing that's like, oh, this is this is a silo over here of of a a character of life or a quality of life or anything. It's like everything is interconnected inextricably forever, you know. And so to try to sit and comprehend life through one lens and just being like, no, no, no. If we just do everything here, it's, you know and it's like, no. Like, because that lever is gonna push this here and it's gonna go over here and everything's gonna get,
[00:59:21] Unknown:
impacted. You know? And everybody has the same level of understanding. Like, some people this is more like, you know, the two sides of the brain where you have a capacity I have a very large capacity to see abstraction. That's why my art is very abstract, but there's a part that when I really wanna focus is very, very, very logical, and I can understand and solve problems like that. Now there's some people who are very logical and they have very little, like, I don't know, like, patience for abstraction. They're just like, no. And that's okay because their mind and their cognition is supposed to be developed in a different way. So it's about putting all these things together.
And I wanna say, like, astrology and Bitcoin are technologies. Astrology is a language. Yeah. And a technology because it is based on numbers, you know, the position of the planets, and then we have geometries, actually, the study of those numbers in space. Then we have harmonics, which is the relationship of the planets create this, like, resonance or dissonance that's, you know, they make harmony or not. And they are based on the geometry, but also the time. So this is, like, it's numbers in time. And then we have astronomy slash astrology. So astronomy was always considered like the validator of these first three of the of the numbers, geometry, and, harmonics.
And a solo astronomy is a validator because every day the sun comes back again. Every 28 days, the moon comes back. Every 88 days, Mercury goes around the sun. So we have physically the possibility with our naked eye to see that that's a validation of time. So we're living in these time cycles. Now Mhmm. Astrology, as a language, is the logos, the reason of mythology. You interpret yourself in relationship to the world through the lens of mythology. So a lot of people say that it is woo woo. I let people say whatever they want, but I would like people to be more open minded, about the idea that these are ancient, very ancient paradigms that they were used by an all kinds of, people like the Mesopotamians, the Chinese, the Hindus, everybody has a relationship to astrology because it's it's a way that the human being has to look up to to disguise and understand what they're doing here. It's not woo woo, and and that happened a lot during the break of the church when the church want the the people, the plebs, to actually have any power.
[01:01:46] Unknown:
And so, I mean, this is obviously you were speaking of this earlier about generational trauma and overpower and control and whatnot and certainly some of us have been exposed to way too much power and violence, you know, when people go sideways with that. Why do you think, like, at some point in our evolution as human beings, right, like, we're obviously animalistic in many, many ways, right, and we're tribalistic, you know, tribal in many ways. Do you feel like we're ever gonna get to a point where we get to have peace and harmony and coexist because we're getting access to different types of truth? Or is it gonna just take such a long time because maybe our brains, over time, have to keep just purifying all the toxic trauma, you know, that's stored in our cells and our tissues as, you know, Peter, I think he says the issues are in the tissues, right? And so, Peter Levine. And so, how are we gonna evolve? I mean, is there a way to fast track evolution into a more peaceful world?
[01:02:48] Unknown:
Well, that's a good question, but, you know, I can answer this two ways. It's like, okay, we're all evolving every day all the time. So evolution is not a destiny. It's a process. Yeah. So, like, let's say that there's no world peace, which is unfortunate, but there's other things that are happening even without world peace. Without it, we're evolving because we are, responding to it. So in a way, every opportunity is an opportunity for you to have a change, a transformation in your life. Now that being said, it's not a fun place to be when people are killing each other. I think that the fundamentals, again, the principle of understanding what is needed in a civilization is really you have to start, and I really love what what the work of the Austrians in that way through missus Rothbard, Hoppe, and now Amos. Like, these people are really bringing the the the the core of what we need is to understand that if we do not respect our bodies and we don't respect the body of the other and the property of the other, we will always be in a state of violence because we're not respecting the main minimum. So I I don't know if we have to, like, literally kill the whole world to realize, oops, or say just before the oopsie, say maybe we should do that. So I don't know, but I'm only gonna say one thing and I don't want people to get scared or anything. We are at the very end of a very big cycle.
Extremely big cycle. People have been talking about this. We were born for this. I say we have little time. I don't want you to be here but it's more like, okay, get your engines going. So we have very little time from here and then we have another eclipse next Monday, Tuesday until January to really step up with our courage to go and do that thing that makes us feel alive, whatever that is. Don't worry if you lose your job. Don't worry if your wife leaves you. Don't worry if you lose what you think that is most important. What is most important is that you stand up with your truth and lead your life with truth because we're gonna be eating otherwise.
And so then we're gonna enter into a period that is going to be I mean, if right now this is jarring and confusing, what is coming is shit show. It's like so I am very practical so I say imagine you're in a boat on a river or the sea and it's very foggy, we cannot really see truth, you see what's going on right now, you don't even know what the truth is, it doesn't matter. Well, you have to trust your instinct that you can navigate to the other side of the shore. Now, if in your boat there is a drunk person that is going to rock the boat, you must boot this person out. So it's also about putting boundaries and saying you did not do proof of work, you're not here. There's no freebies where we're going. This is all about sovereignty and sovereignty means understanding what freedom is. If you ask me what Bitcoin is for me, I say Bitcoin for me is the ability for me to actually practice my own sense of freedom because that's the only thing that I I want in my life. Now we're gonna have I've been receiving some dates, and I corroborate with the astrology. We're gonna have a very big event happening twice. At the beginning of, like, May next year or June, we're gonna have Saturn that is like the definition of the reality. Meet Neptune that is the exactly the opposite. The spirit, there's no definition. So they're gonna meet at the very end of Pisces, which is the very end of a very big cycle where dissolving, forgiving, surrendering, but also there's, like, a lot of drugs, alcohol, denial because they're all coming pairs.
And then when they meet again February 2026, they meet at 0 degrees of areas, which is the universal point beginning of everything. So we will have, if we want, we will have the possibility to be based people, all those that we did the work. But now don't worry about the group. If you are doing your thing, you're gonna resonate and people are gonna come to you or you're going to be meeting the right people so we can build together. It's not about holding hands, but it's more about accepting who you are and and going with it with your heart, with your soul, with all of it. We're here for this. I'm very optimist, actually, but there's a lot of work to be done.
[01:06:55] Unknown:
There is a lot of work to be done. And, I mean, that was a whole bunch of I'm, like, writing all these dates down. I'm like, what do I need to know? I I let you know. No. I let you know. And there's a big eclipse. I I got, I got, like,
[01:07:07] Unknown:
downloads. I get very precise downloads all the time because I ask for them. I do this meditation that is really working. That is the getaway tapes from the CIA.
[01:07:16] Unknown:
Oh, I know some other folks who were doing that. How's it going?
[01:07:20] Unknown:
Valerie. It's like Woah. Okay. Not everybody. I had the other day somebody said that they they thought they were spooky, and I said, well, if you don't resonate, don't do them. For me, it's been like another port. I've been doing my dishes for a long time. This is like, okay. You wanna go to another level? It's because it's very precise, and so it has taught me how to self hypnotize myself and be very precise about things. So I do ask things very precise, and I get the information. So quite amazing. So I did get some dates. And the date that I got, that it was really striking me, that was beginning of this year. There was a number. It was 14 I I do a lot of numerology. It was 1440, and that's the amount of minutes we have in the day. So I said, a day? And they said, it has to do with days, but it's not a day. And I said, oh, 1440 days? Yes. So I looked I always look at astrology, and it was, January 26, 2028. There's gonna be a huge eclipse that is going to really be very impactful for the United States because the south node of the moon is gonna be together with Pluto, which is transformation, and Mars and other planets. But the funny thing is that that is exactly the point of my ascendant.
So my chart my chart and the chart of the United States is very connected. My 911, it was connected that day to the day my my destiny and the destiny of that thing was there. I I was it was not the day for me to die. The pandemic was also very important for me because doing those numbers, I said, okay. If I go forward, it's gonna be 2028. What happens if I go backward? Boom. Beginning of the pandemic by the day. Exactly. So I I listened to those things because they're giving me clues.
[01:08:56] Unknown:
Wow. That's amazing. I mean, I'm so curious about, all of these things, and I'm nervous. Like, I've I've been and and I told you know, so I said before we did this and I put it in a couple you know, in email and social, I was like a little nervous about this. I have been somebody who, you know, the random Sunday whatever, go look at the horoscope thing, but I've never really and my my ex husband's ex fiancee gave me, like, a chartbook thing that I just kinda flipped through and I was like, I don't know because I have something in my mind that is resistant to any of this because it's like, oh, well, what if, you know, what if Monica plants a seed and then I make it come true because she said so? Like, what if what if it's like, oh, you're gonna have a, you know, some bad thing happen on, you know, March 5th? And so I've always been a little like, I wanna have sovereignty over that stuff. And so so help me understand how I cannot feel, like, you know, not I mean, you did. Obviously, you talked about science and math and numbers and harmonics and whatnot. So so let's go.
[01:10:02] Unknown:
Go ahead. So this is the thing. So astrology, the day you're born, we have certain, planets, I mean, all of them in a position. So they are also in certain degrees, so they carry an energy there. And this, like, signs and then houses, which is the placement in the chart, they they carry an archetype. So the way I read this, I learned evolutionary astrology, which is a like sology that uses the trinity to to be able to synthesize, a and b and then c happens. So it's it's very, in tune with Jung, and the shadow. So when you the chart, you start with the planet Pluto. And Pluto is this desire that the soul has prior to this lifetime to come and to evolve. So let's say that that's the floor plan. Pluto is like okay you're not gonna so when I look at your chart and I see and then I'll send it to you like I see that you have Pluto in the in the middle of the sky. When you were born, it was there. This is a very powerful, very, very powerful position for for a planet.
It's in in the sign of Virgo and it's in in the 10th house right there. So in a way, you come from lifetimes where you have been a very prominent figure of authority that was on top. You also have a rhinos next to it, but whatever happened in other life that you were also involved with, things that needed to be connected to seeking truth, religion, philosophy, church, something like that. So what I feel, and it's not that it's true, that energy that probably part of the trauma that you bring is that at one point, this position of power because it's let's say that you're in a position of power, but, you misinterpret or the whole purpose of the power is not done with good faith in a way because you didn't make good decisions. Not because you're a bad person, but because you whoopsie. You didn't do you you didn't see what it was coming.
As I also see that you have a moon and Sagittarius in the first house. So there is, there's, there's a tension in your chart where you have a power struggle between your freedom and your sense of purpose. So and you had it from before and now. So the the most important for me to tell you here is that it is very important that if you recognize that your most important thing for you is freedom, you have to know that if you don't make a structure of those values and needs, you will always have a struggle of power because you won't know how to use that power because you're actually kind of, like, giving in because you don't know how to, have leverage. So I said before, like, Pluto the bipolarity of Pluto is, is Taurus, is is Venus.
And so Venus is all about, I listen to my needs, I listen to my values, survival mode. But then once you know what you need, then you can have leverage to be able to go and trade off your space, your food, your your love life, whatever. You you become a very, equipped trader of your values. But when you don't know how to take care of that, then you're always in this, like, mode of unconscious manipulation because a part of yourself you have the moon and Sagittarius in the first house. You're very individual and you're looking for your freedom. You your freedom is over above everything. But when you feel confined by authorities or your own even doing that sometimes you kind of put yourself in the in that situation, then there's this struggle because you wanna break free. And then you have another planet there that is at the opposite that there were in mythology, there were sister and brother. You have Demeter, which is the mother of Persephone.
There she's opposite in your chart. She's in Pisces. So she's this very, like, almost like victim mother that doesn't understand why there's this struggle. And she wants to go and save the daughter from her brother that snatched Persephone. And so, but Demeter or series, she also gives the opportunity for you to with your, like, ideas, you have very active mind, would become no. But it's good. It's a you It's good. Yeah. It's good because it's your destiny. This is where you're going. So, you your the way you're gonna feed because the matter ends up becoming like the the personification of, the seasons and all the abundance that the seasons can provide in terms of food. So that's why the word cereal comes from series.
So in a way, you need to really plant a lot of seeds in your spirit what makes you feel alive through your own curiosity. So you're married to your curiosity because you already come lives a lot of lives of wisdom. You were always you're already a priest. You were already imprisoned, and not free from, like, your ideologies. Like, you were already with dogma and all that. I'm not saying it was a right or wrong thing, but you were already struggling and perhaps some people got involved, like, you you couldn't find, how do you call that, like a balance between, the needs of others and yours and so let's say there was like a miss something happened. So you're coming back here go like, okay, first of all, note to self.
I want to be powerful but I'm not gonna give away my power unless I don't have my freedom. So you're kind of finding a balance, and you're learning to trust so much your intuition. But sometimes your intuition gives you, like, let's say, when you're overcritical, are you very overcritical with yourself or you were at one point in your life?
[01:15:24] Unknown:
Oh my god. I'm I'm yes. I'm a self flagellator.
[01:15:28] Unknown:
Yeah. So this is your deep shadow. So in a way, there there's a like, one way to work with that, with that energy because you have your your past lives, like, being very, critical. And criticism is beautiful. Criticism and the work crisis kind of like they're together. It means that you see that something is not correct and so you can actually bring, like, something to to to repair it or to correct it or or to do something about it. But when you actually, just stay with the part of shaming yourself because you're not good enough and you're seeking perfection, that's when it becomes detrimental and you're moving backwards.
And so that's when you're not using the wisdom of your heart that you already earned in past lives because you're just too much time spending giving, you know, giving yourself a hard time. And you also have Mars in Taurus in the 6th cell, so you have a tendency to start, like, always criticizing yourself first. You're like, I don't have this value. So one of the things that, can help you do this to integrate is actually when Pluto needs to integrate itself, it has to go to the other side, which is home. And in home, I wanna ask you a few questions about when you were little. So you are a very individual person that comes here and and wants to shine so much as as your individual. You're you you have an Aries, sun, which is very beautiful because Aries is all about your individuality. You have Mercury there, but you also have Chiron.
And Chiron is the most sensitive and vulnerable. It's the wound. It's the wound that we carry. Now this last years and now with eclipses, you've been given the opportunity to actually work with that wound because it's all about, like, maybe when you were little, you didn't feel you had the courage or the support to actually be your individual and speak up and devote yourself to all your creativity. You're a very creative person. You want to wheelie out there, but I don't know if there was one of your parents who was, saying that it was more important to have, like, a security or have you done your homework and you're too much in the sky, you're too much in the imagination. Tell me a little bit. Or you have, like, a mother that it was very disconnected from your needs. Tell me a little bit about growing up in your home. What was it like? All of the above. It was exactly what you said.
[01:17:41] Unknown:
Like, my father was like, oh, you're gonna you know, why I I was the only person who ever went to college and wanted to go, you know, live my life and get a career. And he was like, Oh, you're gonna be barefoot and pregnant by the time you're 18. Why bother? And, so very, very negative about my dreams and wanted to go make a difference in the world. And my mother was very, you know, they divorced. She wasn't home much. And, so just I had to grow up very fast at the age of 10. But prior to that, even I just remember like her favorite phrase was children should be seen and not heard.
Wow. And that was so sad, you know, because it was just one of those like don't speak up, don't ask for anything, just go over there and do what you're supposed to do and don't be a burden. And, so those two things. I mean, I love my parents so much and just like I did the best I could with what I have and they've done the best they could with what they had at the time. So
[01:18:33] Unknown:
there's that, you know, but I know that there's still just that little thumbprint in the sculpture of our soul that that is that happens to us as children. And so, yeah, so that Yeah. And that's why, for instance, trauma work is really important. Like, I've done, you know, enough work with, with, Gabor. And so it's a a part and I and I say this is because you have Saturn in the 5th house, which is a house of creativity, children, and play, joy, Spontaneous. You want to be spontaneous. You wanna be in the now. You wanna be, like, completely, spontaneous and say things, however, and then people are just gonna love that because you you kind of like that. But then that sense of vulnerability that you have because you didn't have somebody that kind of you felt that you were unappreciated and probably was true, I'm I'm sure. But but the lesson right now is or the opportunity rather is that you need to become your mother and your own father in terms of authority. So authority is very important word because it means that you have mastered some things. You mastered the ability to parent yourself, invite the inner child.
I've done a lot of inner child work is when you invite little Valerie. She's 3 she's a crazy little girl that is making drawings everywhere. She's driving everybody crazy. She's all about herself. She's talking and ta da. And, she wants to do this and she sees things and she's like jumping and everything and everyone's like, stop. Don't do this. That's not gonna work. And so she's devastated. So I don't know if you've done any inner work where you invite her. You invite her to your heart. You actually take a picture of yourself when you're 3, 4 and live with her for a while, and then she will never leave you. And that's the I mean, hopefully, you've done that already in another way because it's not the the only way technique to do it. But it will lead your life fully because that is the inner light. It's a life in you since you were little, and the wine was not given the opportunity to to to be creative because you're a very creative person.
[01:20:28] Unknown:
Yeah. I I know exactly the picture I wanna get. It's funny. I in this hypnotherapy sessions last week, she was like, Val, you need to go because we're doing parts work right now. And she was like, Your next job is to go get a picture of yourself as a child and carry it around with you. So, like, I'm going back tomorrow, so I'll go find this one picture. And, of course, I don't remember a ton of things before the age of 10, but I do remember, like, I used to like to put on dance shows for my my family and for my my stuffed animals. And so I would be like, we're doing a show.
[01:20:58] Unknown:
And I would put on a show, and there's just a hilarious picture of me in some ridiculous little outfit as a little kid. And yeah. So I know I I wanna let her come out and keep keep playing and not try to be too serious. So yeah. Thank you. I know. Transits. You know, I have a whole PDF that you can read later, but I'm gonna talk about the transits a little bit. So we're I mean, I always laugh when I got readings with people that randomly they call me a day and then I look at the chart and it's like everything is written that there was a message for you. So we have these eclipses are and probably since April, you've been feeling a big shift, in your life and you probably don't know where the direction is, like, per se, but you you're driving anyway. You know what I mean? It's like people ask you where you're going. You go, it doesn't matter. I'm I'm on the road. You know? Like, you're you already know that the there's a process and not just the destination. That doesn't mean you're not gonna get or accomplish. I didn't say that. It's just the way that you're trusting more, the ability to trust yourself before trusting others because you did, in your chart, I see that you have a capacity sometimes to make, let's say, decisions that are not very clear because you didn't know how to trust, others because you didn't you were not given the light. So when parents don't give you attention, we start feeling that we are doing something wrong. So we tend to, overextend ourselves so we are loved and liked and then we make, you know, decisions that actually are not the best and we choose wrong partners and all that. But with time, you you know, and with work, then you realize it's like, okay. Maybe I was looking for something outside of myself. You know, the seeker was outside and not inside in the heart or embodied.
So what I in the chart right now is, like, there's something that's very, good. It's like Saturn, which is the father, the structure is also the support. Let's say that you had a great father or somebody or an authority figure that says all the time, like, that you come and you say I did this, and he says something like, wow, Valerie. This is great. I love when you do this. So he's giving you some sort of, like, recognition. And then he says, but make sure that you go and brush your teeth. You're not gonna hate your father because he's already made seeing you for your light, but he's also remind that there's a structure because otherwise you're gonna grow up ugly with yellow teeth. You know what I mean? So that that father is very important or the mother. We we have a structure. So we have Saturn and it's been the last few months has been going through your north node which is the direction of your life that is all about being curious and merging with the curiosity of your spirit. Your spirit is coming out and saying, do not judge anymore. Let me be. I know what I'm doing even if I what I'm doing.
And says, everything is great, Valerie, but we still have to make a foundation. So I had a dream not long ago, and I'm gonna give it to you because it it will relate a little bit. It's like I had a dream about if you are going to build let's say, you're gonna build a a bunch of channels in a piece of land because you want to, like, divert the water that is raining, And then you you're gonna do, like, under under the earth, under the soil, channels. So I had this idea that if I want to, like, spread the energy, you know, flow of energy and contain it, maybe there's a place with with the energy and the water is gonna be contained for later time. Mhmm. And and it was this beautiful image. So because I was asking how to do with this energy that is so structural, but at the end, it's in Pisces. So you can kind of, it's like the magic wand. Oh, we can create this, but you don't know how to use it. And then you end up asking for the 3 wishes, and then by the 4th, it's like, no. You ask already for everything while you were playing with it. It's a little bit about making, like, a strategy.
So there's a big opportunity right now in your life to create a strategy about like how you wanna channel all this, flow of energy in ways that with time are going to expand in something that is very useful and meaningful in the way you relate to the world. And a lot of it has to do with curiosity and things that you fancy, things that, I like that. Because long term, you're gonna build because Saturn is about, again, to support. You're gonna build a structure that is not so loopy because, you know, having the Pisces in your chart, it could be loopy in the sense that you're okay with this, but sometimes it's like, wait. We need a little bit of order. So you're given the opportunity right now to have a little bit of order, but it's not constrained order like the one you have when you were growing up, which was, like, almost sterile.
There was no input. Here is different. Here is, like it's asking you. It's like like the father in you, the the inner the the the outer authority to say, what do you want in life? What do you want the next 5 years? What do you want the next 10 years? How do you wanna be of service? How do you wanna have fun? And then you make a list of your needs. Oh, I need this. That's why I think low time preference is so important because then you start really making the the right list of what is needed. Because these eclipses as well, they're falling exactly on your chiron. That's just your wound and your sun. This is a beautiful opportunity, Valerie. The last time you had something like this was 18, 19 years ago. Then you probably open up something that you're closing right now, and this is an opportunity where you give yourself the light, you give yourself the courage.
Also, Karen is on your Venus. So you have a lot of planets right now at self notice on your Uranus, today, Mercury is on on Pluto. So I'm just gonna try to synthesize all this. So, basically, the chart is saying, you're ready. You're more than ready. You'll be getting ready. Now it's time for you to sit down and plan like an adult. Things have happened to you. It's not we cannot blame people. This is one thing that we have to get away in society. Things don't happen to us. Yeah. That, oh, that happened to me. This same person didn't know. You allow that to happen because you didn't know how to do it. You didn't know how to say no. So when you acknowledge and you become accountable, then you under oh, this is the power I have. I have the power to say that's not happening anymore. I say no.
So the whole world is right now gonna show you a lot of abundance. And when these two planets move together that I told you that they're gonna be, they're gonna create a new reality in the house where you called home. And it's not literal home and, like, what makes you feel safe emotionally. You're gonna start feeling that safety so close to yourself, but your safety depends on your individuality, your freedom. Yep. That make sense? It totally makes sense.
[01:27:24] Unknown:
Damn.
[01:27:27] Unknown:
My brain How are you feeling?
[01:27:29] Unknown:
I'm feeling good. I'm just like, yes. Since April, shit has been completely disintegrating. And even prior to that, but April was a huge month, I had a massive panic attack. I had to call a whole bunch of girlfriends when I was on a boat in the middle of the ocean with somebody who I'm not with anymore who was part of this disintegration and just knowing, like, I just felt it. Like, something's shifting. You know? And so, anyway but everything you said is so spot on. It's crazy just as far as being free. That is ultimate priority for me. Don't tell me what to do. Yeah. That's my jam. And and, yes, I think if it was just me wandering around Earth, I could be in, like, little la la land with all, like you said, in the Pisces vibes, but, like, I can't be in service if I'm that way.
And Oh, no. Yeah. And so for me, I understand. And that's kind of why I think I've been so attracted to this code and putting this together because that is that structure, that is that strategy, that is that the container for me to have better decisions and have more strategy, you know, and not just have, Oh, here's an idea or here's this. It's like, no, here's a roadmap. Here's a repeatable roadmap that's got fun and play and celebration and community within it. It's not just here's my checkbox of shit to do and my OKRs and my KPIs and all the stuff that I'm supposed to do as a business person. And so how can I make that and then have self accountability and self leadership in addition to friendship accountability, you know, and and making it fun to get shit done, you know?
[01:29:04] Unknown:
I love it. I love it because it it is through like creating these structures. And right now, your progress chart is so Capricorn is is the the the main. So Capricorn again other and it's like the structure and it's time. So it's maturation. And you do have also right now, you have Jupiter on your Mars. So that's I I wanted to say something. Like, you did feel the big change in the last year. Yep. Some you became a now you're a Gemini in the progress chart. So have fun, man. Like, that this is a goofy time of your life. It's like if it's goofy, it's good. If it's silly, even better. You know, like, who has, Venus and and Gemini have it too, and that's where your Mars is right now? Elon, Elon Musk. He's the most goofy person in the world. Right.
And he's sick. I love his jokes because it's like, I totally get it. Like, of course, because that's the kind of goofiness that I have and got me in so much trouble. So if if it's goofy, that doesn't mean that you're not a serious person. That doesn't mean that you don't do things for serious, but we cannot take ourselves so seriously. No. We can't. But but that energy is actually allowing you to flow into a state of like, oh, I I I bring the curiosity and and I move forward with this sense of wonder, and then I can actually connect to something that is very spiritual because your spirit wants that. Your spirit has been many lives already too serious in the in the biblutech, how to say, the big library, ascribing the bible.
You don't need to do that anymore. You don't need to go and be a priest and then get because you have past lives where you were, either in an outhouse or in, prison.
[01:30:40] Unknown:
Yep. That sounds familiar.
[01:30:43] Unknown:
Yeah. It becomes so important. So you're taking time right now to understand how the world, works because you don't wanna do the same.
[01:30:51] Unknown:
Wow. Yeah. No. And and I don't want the same for others too. And that's what's really, like, for me, like, I think I'm, of course, self healing, I can't go help and do anything on planet Earth unless I'm whole, unless I'm working from a height. Full tank. We know that. You know, we know the whole thing. But it is something that is just after going through what I went through 8 years ago, you know, I had such an arrogance about me up until that point that, you know, oh, you're depressed. You feel anxious. You're feeling out of control. Like, just get it together, like put a smile on. And I didn't have I didn't have enough empathy and I didn't have enough compassion, I think. And I always just had this fixer mentality like you said earlier because that's me like, Oh, if I see something, Oh, let's make it better. Let's fix it. Let's do the thing.
And I didn't marry that with empathy and compassion, you know, and really getting in tune with the other. And so it was a perfect experience for me to have to go through that. And And I did go to, you know, a nuthouse, a mental hospital. I went to rehab. You know, I went to these places which to me, it's like, Wow, what a gift. What an absolute gift. It wasn't actually one of those places from historically where they tied you up and you're, you know, you're just thrown away because you're not operating in a way that people expect you to in civilized society. But, you know, it's like, you know, people give you flowers if you break your arm, Right? Or, you know, oh, I'll visit you in the hospital. You had a broken leg. Something happened. You know, you had a heart attack.
But when you have a mental breakdown, nobody's bringing you flowers. Nobody goes. Nobody wants to see you. Nobody wants to talk to you. They wanna talk about you behind your back to each other. Sorry that you went through that. Like It's okay. I was just it's but but but it it helped me realize, like, holy shit. There's a whole thing that's happening out here. And all the folks that I got to meet in rehab were, like, there's a billionaire. There's a CEO. There's a teacher. There's a mom. There's a nurse. There's a student. There's a hairdresser. There's a truck driver. There's a yoga teacher. There's all these people that have all these different things that they had enough compounding issues that they snapped and it collapsed. And so, nobody, no thing, nothing in nature is immune from collapsing and snapping because of enough pressures and enough external things. And so, you know, for me, like recognizing, Wow, if that could happen to me and all these people, everybody's at risk, you know. And if we don't have certain things that we can do, you know, on a daily basis to stay, you know, trying to be in that higher vibration and trying to understand ourselves, know thyself so that we can be up here and not in this like toxic soup hell so that we don't collapse, so that we don't have to leave our children for a month, you know, and so that we don't lose the things that are precious to us. And so, lessons are lessons, right? And, you know, I say lessons and lessons but, I think it was just it was an important time of life and it shifted my desire to wanna even be more in service to people in this way, you know, through play, through fun, through creativity.
And it's like, okay, a little bit of structure in there too, you know, that you have a daily practice and meditation and whatever it is that works for us. So so it's just such a wow.
[01:34:18] Unknown:
I think I'm thank you for for that. I think I met you and you gave, I think in Miami 2023 with Natalie Brunel, and there was the the thing in in the glasses. I still have them. The heart glasses. Yeah. Yeah. It's so awesome. It's like your energy was just like I've any it was beautiful to see. It was my first conference because I started volunteering only a year ago. And, I wanted to do I I wanted to come to the space of Bitcoin, like, with curiosity as well with not any pretense or saying, you know, I didn't wanna do the New York thing where you just go, like, oh, this is my car. Like, no. Just wanted to be and so I did sign up for for for that, and I was, I was having so much fun just seeing your sense of joy, and and I thought, oh, this is great. So there's space for this in Bitcoin because I didn't know what I was going to encounter in Bitcoin. You don't know, like, I'm I don't know, suited men with those cases. Like, I I had no idea. Crypto cryptography bros and hoodies. Yeah. And you're like, how do I fit in here? Yeah. Yeah. But that was like I was like, oh, okay. And then I think I saw you in in in LA as well. Like, we've like, you were DJing, and I was like, okay. So but I was I don't like try to define people. I just I I feel the energy and I let the energy kind of, like, fall into place. And then right now, for instance, that we're talking is like, oh, okay. Now I have an experience with her. And, obviously, I listen to some of the podcasts and stuff like that, but I didn't have a, like, first to first experience. And I only wait until then to just actually have a a something that is in my heart connected because other than other than that, it's just a perspective that it's it it could be skewed depending if I had breakfast or not. You know? Like, so so that I I I I love your energy and what it brings to to to the space and also, your willingness to to actually offer space for other people to to heal. I think it's so, so much because of your own predicament as well. Like, I also I mean, I I also went through a lot. And so I think, you know, we all do, and it's so beautiful to just be able to be vulnerable and tell people like, hey. We all we all have a thing. You know? It's okay to talk about it. It's really okay to talk about it.
[01:36:23] Unknown:
It is. And and it's shame. I mean, shame keeps us from speaking up and using our voices. And the worst thing that shame does is it doesn't give you that permission to raise your hand and say, I need help. I don't got this. And because we're so conditioned to, you know, think that everybody else has got it together and, Oh, wow. I'm the one that's kind of crazy so I'm just going to hide over here and not let anybody know how fucked up I really am. But it's like everybody goes through phases of I'm I've got it. I'm rocking. And then there's phases where it's like, I'm so not rocking. I'm I'm, like, I'm not dead. Didn't you, like because, you know, in your chart, it shows that you're a person that probably also because what you were told and and little and everything, you wanted to strive to be at the top and probably you were very much at the top of your business
[01:37:12] Unknown:
and and very executive and and and all that. But then through the crisis, you actually have to confront your heart that is broken in a thousand pieces. And then you discover that maybe being there in the podium being cool because it is cool to be up there, but being empty because you can be on the podium and you do not connect to anybody. Yeah. You're not connecting. So I think that, you know, I appreciate that you've done that for yourself. Not a lot of people do that. I think it's very courageous already that you've done that because this is what you're showing the world that it is possible. You you actually took off your persona. You know, when you have Pluto up there, it's the biggest and you have it really on top. It's like you're an authority.
And that persona, it's a character that you put because that's what you thought and you were fit. Like, that's what you you did, and you you were good at that. But that persona is not really you. And the more you detach yourself from who you are and your essence, the more this mask, this character starts going like, okay. I can do 2 things. Completely forget about it and and live this life and become a phony and, you know, all that stuff. And then I don't care. I don't care. Okay. Or say, okay. This is gonna be dangerously, like, stupid, but I'm gonna do it. And then you do it and you go like, okay. Hurts, but then, okay, what can we do? And I think that you've done it and it's so empowering, so empowering to see that. And thank you for doing that because you did it for you, but you're also like showing up the world that vulnerability is one of the biggest strong strengths that we have in our chart is where we feel completely broken.
[01:38:48] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. It's such a crazy thing. Like, we want to avoid the break. You know, most of us, there's like, no, no, no. Don't let it don't let the things fall apart. And what you were just saying earlier about, you know, this time period that we're entering where it's like, don't freak out if you lose your wife or if, you know, you lose a job or da da da da da, like, it's okay. Something else is coming, you know. But I think our egos get so attached to the familiar and we wanna have control and and we wanna think, you know, we're we're in control really is is the thing. And it's very, it's very disorienting and destabilizing mentally and emotionally and physically, spiritually when things start to crumble and collapse and you're trying to just hold it and just be like, no, no shit, instead of surrendering to the collapse, you know? And we think about nature and the cycles of nature and it's like, you know, certain things, it's like that's their seasonality. They are supposed to come up, rise and collapse, come up, rise and collapse, etcetera. And so I think we avoid that as humans, you know, because we want this thing to be here forever the way it is, you know? And I think about Burning Man. Have you been to Burning Man? I'm not the type. I don't have anything against it, but, like, I I don't Just not your thing. Yeah. But but it's like such an interesting thing where it's like all the energy goes into this just insane, you know, building and everything, the whole community, the art, everything, and then burning the man too. And it's just this like, Oh, wow. Nothing's permanent, you know? And so, but we get attached to that and I think that attachment, you know, we think of Buddhism and attachment is the cause of suffering, right? And so, I think for those of us or those of you who might be listening who could be going through a breakdown or a loss or something that is very painful, it's like it's sometimes it's it's less painful if you can just let it let it let it go, like you said earlier, Monica. And so And and support
[01:40:49] Unknown:
is super important because, sometimes, as you said before, like, it's so difficult to just call somebody and say, I need help. Yeah. Sometimes we tend to call the wrong people, and there's nothing wrong about talking to your best friend or your best buddy about something, but these people are not trained. These people are going to project back whatever they want. If it might not get rid of you and say, oh, yeah. Dump that. They're not even taking care of you. And if they're also finding an opportunity to just, like, dump their own stuff on you, it's like, oh, that happened to me and this was worse. And so there's no there's I learned that a long time ago. Like, it's like, if you can seek, like, professional support and make sure that that you're working is actually that listening to you, validating you, and and and showing you a way for you to see where you have to go, super important. And I don't think a lot of people really understand how important it is to seek, support at this moment.
And
[01:41:40] Unknown:
Yeah. And it's and and, you know, even for me, you know, it's like I'm not rich and it's like this is an investment for me to go do this hypnotherapy because I'm doing these layers of stuff that is very important for me to address right now in my life. And so it's just like anything that you're doing, I think, you know, whoever is listening, it's like it's an investment in your wellness. You know, you'll go to the gym. You'll go and buy organic food. You'll go on a trip. You'll go do all the things or you'll get Botox or whatever you're doing. It's like if this isn't up here, like lining up here, all that other stuff isn't going to be as as potent for you to be a whole happy person, you know? And so I think investing in our mental health and and people who are trained, like you said, and who do care
[01:42:26] Unknown:
and and sometimes the reality is you might have to go through 10 of them before you find your match, you know? And Or if you follow your and I wanted to if you have like 10 more minutes, we're gonna talk about your human design. So it's very to understand, that there are energy centers in your body that they tell you when I do readings. I do astrology as I did a little bit with, with you. I mean, obviously, my readings are 2 hours, but here, we we kind of, like, we're trying to put it and then Okay. Yeah. Well yeah. Thank you.
But then the other one is, like, there's some there are 9 centers in the body that they're defined or undefined, and they show you the energy of how to make the right decisions. Now you said something before a while back that you have a very good sense of smell because you can smell bullshit. Yeah. It is in your chart. You have that channel that is the channel. It's called the channel of the fighter. So it's the spleen. You have the 28, you have the purpose, and then you have the 38, the fighter, like the one that will never give up. So you have this, like, you have this ability. It's a very individual, energy that is about never giving up because you're so driven by, finding the purpose of your life that you don't give up and you will not give up. Now these other people were like, woah.
Not I have that channel too, and I know that that's one of my strengths. And I know that when I commit to something, this is it. So but the whole thing is, like, in moments in your life when you found yourself not giving, not putting the real purpose in your life, you you're you know that you're cheating yourself. So for you, the purpose is super important. You have another channel. It's very beautiful. It's called the beat. It's like the it's the identity center. You have the the gate 2, which is like the when when you're in the correct energy, you actually have the compass of the whole, like, the whole world. And you have the energy of materiality going through. So you have, like, a pulse of energy that you can actually manifest a lot of materiality, not only for yourself, but the others if you are really center on, like, finding the right direction.
And the direction is something that is not given to you, but it's something that is felt and is an urgency. So you are, generator in your charge, so that means that you respond very well to to people asking you to do things. But when you ask when you end up doing things, it's very important that you are true to, what the body's feeling. So if you don't if your gut says no because you're not gonna feel satisfied with it, you shouldn't do it even if it's all the money in the world. Yep. So being being frustrated shows you that you're in the wrong place at the wrong time. Frustration is gonna be is gonna be the thing. So that's one of the things. Let me see what other thing I mean, I'm just going very fast through these things, but they're very important. You also have another channel that I adore that is, hold on here. Oh, what was it? The one the other person. So it's called the you you are you're very convict you have, like, an incredible, ability to to to understand what integrity is. So for you, integrity is a very important thing. And so you you can actually use the idea of your conviction and have all the energy in the world to go and inspire yourself, inspire others.
You'll trust your own convictions and you're very independent. You have a very independent energy. And, that doesn't mean that you're not tribal or collective, but you are really here to become your own person. The the crowd or the family, whatever, like, the tribe, they're gonna be okay without you. But you're very individual. And individual means that sometimes can be, melancholic because when you realize that you're on your own all the time, you I mean, it happens to me. I go like, anybody else in the world? You know, like, what's happening? But at the very end, you go, okay. I need to do this by myself because this is the energy that you have in order to achieve. So decisions, very important that you, listen to your gut always, never to your head. Never make big decisions with your ideas. You don't have ideas. Ideas are inspirations that come through you, and then you can actually make them, you know, conceptualize them and put them out there, but they don't belong to you. They're part of the creator. Other people are more defined like that. You do have, a lot of energy in the lower chakras and your spleen.
Spleen is the the center that's gonna tell you if you're in the wrong place at the at the wrong time. So always follow, 2 senses, your sense of smell and your sense of taste that is with the eye. You enter a place, and you know one thing, we were not taught to really follow our instincts and that's why a lot of people fall a predator you know, to predators and narcissists because we're not really, you know, listening to that. So if you go to a situation and this this center will never tell you yes. He will you'll go to a place and you just know this is not correct. You stand up and you go. You don't have to explain yourself.
Because this center is the it runs the almost, like how to say, immune system. It runs the immune system and you're always gonna tell you when you're not supposed to be in the right place because it's going to protect you now. We're overriding that because it's like no, what about what is Twitter saying? What is Google saying? No. When you're in danger and it's something that is gonna tell you immediately, especially when you meet people, like right now, you meet people even on the Internet and something is not okay, you just follow that. Yeah. Follow that.
That's the best way to connect to your, this is a this part of the brain that we have, like, a more animalistic you see it? I mean, I love National Geographic, just looking at the, you know, wolves and bears, like, how they do Eagles, predators, they're amazing how they use all the senses. So our senses, this is very important, our senses are the most valuable thing we have because this is our GPS. And our emotion is another tool that we have to see where we're at, But emotions take time, so we cannot trust the emotions. Emotions is like, they're always making a a respond, but we tend to react. So the instincts and intuition that are run by that center are things that are very important to listen to, take care of because, you know, obviously, you're very intuitive. And so if you follow that, you're never wrong. The problem is when you second doubt yourself. The problem is when you, put your expectations onto others.
And that happens to a lot of people. You.
[01:48:44] Unknown:
Yeah. Oh my god.
[01:48:46] Unknown:
Like, what about this? I hope you're not nervous anymore.
[01:48:49] Unknown:
I'm not nervous. I'm just like, okay, you just kinda went in and said everything about me. I it's like, I do. I have gotten myself in some situations recently in the last couple of years that, I overrode my intuition and I made excuses and I had emotional stuff that I got attached to instead of what my gut was telling me was get the fuck out, you know. And I always say, If it's not a fuck yeah, it's a fuck no. And Yes, yes, yes, that's exactly. That's it. If it's not a fuck yeah, it's a fuck no. And recently, unfortunate which I did a lot quicker this time, I I got out of something that was you know, had lots of great checkboxes, but it wasn't a fuck yeah. And and, and it it it was like, okay. That was a faster turnaround time, so that's good. You know?
But it's like I I I cheated on myself, you know? I settled because I had, you know, the emotional like, oh, I I liked attention or I was lonely or it was sexy or all these stuff, right? And and it was like, nope, This is a fuck no, but I still did
[01:49:58] Unknown:
it. Yeah. But this is something more than that. It's more like you come with the knowledge of that you know and you can embody your your your wisdom, but there's one aspect that is attention, like, it's 90 degrees that is actually saying, well, in order for you to trust yourself, you really have to go deeper. This is not gonna be that easy. So this is something that you put as an obstacle, not because you're doing anything wrong, but you actually put it there so you can actually really understand what it is to trust yourself so you can trust others. I'm gonna say that again. You have to learn to trust yourself trusting others. Because what we tend to do is, like, oh, yeah. That person is great, but it's like, do you trust yourself? Turns well, you know, I did I felt something, but no. No. Do you trust yourself? Because then you're not creating an expectation, and this is the difference between somebody betraying you and you betraying yourself.
People do not betray you. You betraying your own sense of of of values. Yep. Exactly. Right? So that's that's you you did that in your chart and doesn't mean this is gonna happen, but the more you practice it, the more at the end of your life you go like, oh, this is a a a hundred. Like, you you know, I got a medal for this because you did that. We all have that kind of, obstacles, challenges. And sometimes if we don't have them natively, we will have them some poor when when the sky keeps on turning around. Like, I was born with a very beautiful chart that nothing there was no problem. So I was like, that can make me very lazy and very arrogant about it. But then middle age, 40 to 50 to 55, I was like, the fuck is going on? And everything. And that's when I was like, okay.
Buckle up. I'll learn. I'll learn my lessons. So we all have opportunities, and that's beautiful. Astrology is alive every day. So we have every day an opportunity when we wake up to actually make the right choices for what it is good for ourselves, not the other. How long have you been how long have you been studying this? Because this is it it is a language as you said, and it's very, it's complex. You know, there's not just like, oh, hi. It's just, you know, how how long have you been doing this? And I'll get I'll take I'll take a couple more minutes of your time. I don't wanna bother you and take up too much. It's okay. So I I started at Stoliger, like, being very curious when I was, like, 9 or 10. I used to read books, and so I my mom was I was driving her crazy. So she's subscribing to, like, a book club kind of thing that you go to the book fair and buy books. And so I used to my mom had a driver for us, not because we were rich, but because, she was very practical. So take us to school, whatever. So this driver that ended up being, like, part of the family, he took me to the the book fair. My mom gave me some money, and I'm gonna buy my books. And then by the end of it, I had already bought my books, and then there's a man sitting down on a table with a red book that where all the planets are. And I said, what are you doing? He goes, I'm an astrologer. And I said, wow. Can I have my chart? It's it's x amount of money. I said, well, let's do one thing. I'll give you what I have left, but then you come with me. I mean, imagine right now doing that. I'm I know. Come with me.
The driver the driver is like, yeah. And my mom will pay you when you get home. So we did that. And my mom is like, who is this person? And I said, oh, I'll tell you later, but we owe him money. Okay. I will talk to you later. He's like, okay. And then he gave me the book. He thought it was really funny. He gave me the book. And then he said, one day you're gonna be an astrologer. And I said, sure. So I did find astrologers throughout and always very interested in teaching and that like that. I did study 2 other times with other people, but the the what happened is, like, the way they were teaching, I I couldn't grasp it. I need, like, a choreography. I need a way of, like, walking through it. And so when I was really, really at the lowest point depressed after my marriage broke, broken, everything, like, not happening. 2016, I prayed every day, please send me something. Please, please. I started listening to sology again in in in in YouTube because I had kind of, like, stopped having anything to do with it. And then I I heard this man speaking to me a couple of like, he's talking to me. So I remember, like, I emailed and I said, I need a chart. He said I was in Colombia. He said, I I only have, I don't know, it was 4:4 AM in where I was. I would I my first chart reading, I was wearing my pajamas in the house of a friend because I was there visiting.
End of the thing, I tell him, okay, what's your name, Simon? I said, Simon, can I learn everything you know? And he looked at me. He goes like, and I said, we start Saturday. And I just milk the cow, and I learn everything because I'm I'm good student. I'm always asking, I have another question. So I studied very, very intensely, and then I started almost immediately doing charts. So I learned a lot by doing charts as well. I did, like, Facebook. I said one day, I'm learning this. I will only charge $20 by donation. I will read only 2 cards. And then these people, when I did it, they came back afterwards and they they became clients afterwards. So I it was trial and error. And and then what happened is, like, I always been a channeler. So astrology is a language, but then I connect with something that you say whatever, and then I just opens up, and I don't even remember what I'm saying. So it's it's it's pretty intense. So, yeah, the basic language.
[01:55:16] Unknown:
Wow. It's you're amazing, and I love I mean, all the insights and and with the human design and stuff as well, that's a whole another language that is I mean, that's I'm still learning that. I'm learning all of it. I'm, like, tiny, tiny bit by bit. I'm like, okay. I'm supposed to go this way and start listening and learning and paying attention. So I can give you, like, places where you can go. I wanna do it for another read. If there's more, I might go I'll I'll hire you to be my my, you know, astrologer reader and tell me some stuff if I need any help. I think I can support you and guide you. I I love doing that. Like, I I I hold those study groups sometimes.
[01:55:53] Unknown:
Oh, cool. Yeah. And so I I have a study group of human design for, like, 2 years now. We we've grown so much because it's actually really about observation and correlation. You observe what's going on. I guide everybody, but I also guide myself and just growing and growing, and it's so beautiful. Same thing. I do study groups of Bitcoin for younger, and for women in South America so they don't have to depend on the paycheck of the, husband.
[01:56:19] Unknown:
It's so important.
[01:56:20] Unknown:
Yeah. So I I'm all, like, pro freedom in any in many ways. So I'm like, okay. If you wanna be free, you have to be financially free, you have to be emotionally free, you have to be spiritually free. You have to be based. You know? You have to get out of the system. That's another thing that I'm doing, but I'll tell you another day. You get out of the system, you get out, and you're sovereign as how you came to this world.
[01:56:40] Unknown:
Yeah. I love that. And, wow. Well, I I wanna share obviously, everybody, I want them to come check out your work at Studio of Endless Ideas and I want them to go follow you on x@bravomonika, m o n I k a, just for those of you listening, if you're on the podcast and stuff. This has been incredible. Thank you so much for taking all this time. I wasn't expecting this to be this long. Like, wow, you're so generous with doing all of the, obviously, everything you do with art and making the world a more beautiful place and a place where people can have conversations and, like you said, feel something in themselves, you know, and feel an emotional experience.
Was it Maya Angelou? She said, People will forget what you say, they'll forget what you do, but they'll always remember how you make them feel. And it's just like, I that's was something that we would always say as when I was doing Valerie and the Vibe Tribe because it was like, it's not about being perfect and it's not about this. It's like, what's the experience that hopefully us as artists and creators can can give others. And it's just it's it's an experience, a feeling. You know? And so And I love
[01:57:50] Unknown:
yeah. And and what I wanna say, the last thing is, like, okay. The book is coming out in a couple of weeks, and then I am thrilled because I started I'm gonna start doing the rounds of conferences as a speaker or Yes. And so I'm gonna start with, adopting Bitcoin. Yes. Good. Shout out to Efrat because she kinda put me in connection. And so I'm gonna do one that is, about, Prometheus and how Bitcoin can be, the catalyst to understand ourselves. And so I'm gonna start talk about astrology, the 4th turning, and I'm I'm preparing that talk, so that's great. And then, Gary Leeland, which is one of my favorite, Bitcoiners out there from, Bit Bloc Boom just asked me to do a workshop. So I'm thinking about something between Bitcoin and Austrian Economics, and so I'm thrilled. I'm, like, serving as myself, bringing the color and, and the joy to the space.
[01:58:43] Unknown:
It's so awesome. And I'm so glad you're in the space as it as it is called, I guess, and and the whole space of Earth. I love what you're doing. I'm so excited and I'm I'm so curious about learning more about, astrology and human design. Of course, everybody needs to go out and get your book. You guys, you can get book the book presale at studio of endless ideas forward slash book presale. It's so beautiful. I can't wait to touch it. I, seriously, I can't wait to see all the things inside of it. And, yeah, this will be fun. I wanna do a follow-up with you and see how it's going after, you know, the book is out and I'm happy to keep promoting it and Thank you.
[01:59:22] Unknown:
Get get the word out for you. Do you have any art installations coming up that, you know, we could we should look at? I'm in New York. I have this beautiful piece at the Grand Central Station, Madison. They just opened up this new place that, gets sold, to the Long Island Railroad. And so at and the at that level where you get there, there's 5 screens, LEDs, really, really big. And so I made an, a piece that is 2 minutes. It's a beaut it's actually very much based on Praxeology. I was very inspired about, like, what is it that it takes humans to build civilization and then destroy it. So in in a ways Mhmm. And and it's buildings that they look like New York, but actually they're buildings that that were never built, made on drawings. And then I have the sky of the Grand Central that is all the constellations going around. Wow. It's it's a beautiful piece and it's made out of collage. So I made all the pieces and they kind of move around but they're very, like, the, like, the cloud looks like a 4 year old girl designed the cloud. So I wanted this and super colorful. I there's one thing I'm gonna say, like, every time that I see my pieces alive because I'm here making everything from a small apartment. This one, I have a big studio, but I I don't wanna do that anymore, you know, too much overhead.
And when I go and see these pieces, I always cry and cry and cry. I call my brother, and he was like, why are you crying? And I said, it's so beautiful. I can't Francois always says, do you remember your room? I say, yeah. You have always doing all these colors. I do you remember? And I'll go, yes, but still so beautiful. So I every time I knew a new I'm the first one that goes like, I thank God. I said, thank you for letting me be this channel. You know, beauty is so important. So yeah.
[02:01:05] Unknown:
It is so important. I love it. And you have a special skill, and I love that you are self taught. And what has come out of you is absolutely remarkable. Like, you you do you do remind me of Gaudi, like, your your beauty and the wonderfulness that you are like, yeah, we don't need to go like this. We're gonna go over here and go do this. And it's just, like, so perfect. I I love it. And I can't wait to see keep, you know, following all the work that you're doing and being your friend now. Yay. I mean, I hope I can call you my friend. And I hope I see you at these conferences. I don't have anything on my docket right this second, but I'm I'm working on getting some ability to get to some of the conferences. So adopting Bitcoin is magic. It's so great down there and I just love it's just the energy of El Salvador. Have you been to El Salvador since the Bitcoin? Oh my god. It you're gonna look into the my first I love what, Bukele is doing.
[02:01:59] Unknown:
I I just gonna give a big shout out. It's like, I if I they give me the passport as a person that can contribute to its suburb. Although I have to say, I love the United States. I have become such a patriot. I understand. I'm studying the constitution, everything. This is one of the most amazing countries in the world. I'm not saying that it is right now, but the opportunity that we have here to be free is, unbelievable. So we have to protect those rights. We do. Because We do. This place. Now I like El Salvador because what he's doing, his program, it's very wide open. Like, he really has a concept, so I respect that. Yeah. And what done is, like, amazing. So I wouldn't mind contributing, but I will let life give me that.
[02:02:40] Unknown:
Oh, I I my mind I'm I'm already envisioning exactly where your art is gonna be. There's this, like, center town. It's like in the middle of the city center and it's got this big, like, old opera house. And we were looking at doing Satoshi the Cyber Opera there and doing this, like, projection mapping music thing and doing this 12 part kind of musical play thing. But,
[02:03:02] Unknown:
I have a I have a feeling you're gonna be doing something down there. I don't know. My intro yeah. Who knows? It just sort of like that. I mean, I'm I'm gonna call it, like, in terms of manifestation, like, I'm gonna put it out there, but then Yeah. If it's the right thing for me and, you know, I'll I'll be very happy to serve as an artist, but also as a Bitcoiner or or educator. Like, it's it's I have diver I mean, I'm I'm not only one thing. Thank god. And so and I'm not in the New York mode, like,
[02:03:29] Unknown:
trying to do everything so I can get it. Like, I don't do that anymore. Things come to me very differently. Yeah. I know. Isn't it the best? I know. I feel the same way. I'm not just like, I'm a Bitcoiner or a podcaster or a DJ or an entrepreneur or a mom. I'm all of the above all of the time, and I don't have to choose. Like, you know, that's, like, so fun, right? And so anyway, it's and and we're we're like we're all the colors of the rainbow all at once, you know, and so because we're light. And so all right. Blah, blah, blah, Val. Thank you.
All right. So thank you again so much. You are amazing and so talented. And, you guys, everybody make sure you get out there and follow Monica and, support her work and send her at Hey. And I can't wait to see you somewhere again soon, Monica. And thanks again. And, everybody who's been listening, thanks for tuning in. I hope this was a great episode for you. And until next time, peace, love and warm aloha.
Introduction to Monica Bravo
Monica's Artistic Journey
Public Art and Community Impact
Truth Seeking and Personal Growth
Bitcoin and Consciousness
Artistic Process and Philosophy
Challenges and Feedback in Public Art
Spiritual Insights and Personal Experiences
Astrology and Personal Transformation
Monica's Book and Future Projects
Astrology Reading for Valerie
Human Design and Personal Insights
Monica's Upcoming Projects and Reflections
