Chaos, Cows, and a Crushing Debate Victory: Why This Dog Face Dudes Episode is a Must-Watch
Forget Taylor Swift’s new album. The real cultural event this week was the Dog Face Dudes’ post-game analysis of their legendary debate, “Who is worse for society: George Floyd or Destiny?” Last night’s stream was a masterclass in intellectual demolition, rural wisdom, and the kind of chaotic comedy you can only get when hosts refuse to stay in their lane.
If you missed the live showdown, this debrief is your essential guide. Here’s why you need to watch it.
The Main Event: Substance Obliterates Speed
The DFD crew—Steve, Benjamin Balderson, and Marcus—dissected their victory over opponents Rob (a rapid-fire speaker dubbed "Rob Noire") and the largely comatose "Marte." The critique was as brutal as it was hilarious.
Marcus painted a vivid picture of Rob’s style: “The faster Rob was speaking, the higher pitch his voice was coming out… a chunky Gilbert Gottfried.” Benjamin summed up the duo’s dynamic perfectly: “One of you seems like you've taken heroin and the other one, like, you've snorted all the cocaine.”
While their opponents flailed, Steve and Ben anchored their argument in reality. They contrasted the global, tangible impact of George Floyd’s death with the terminally online influence of Destiny. Steve’s closing argument was definitive: “For the terminally online… Destiny is very serious and very evil and super important. But when you go out into the real world… nobody is doing anything in Destiny's name.”
The Verdict: A landslide win for the Dudes, proving that prepared arguments and real-world grounding will always beat a high-speed verbal filibuster.
(00:00:01) Cold open chaos: "Who are you guys?" and soundcheck bits
(00:01:02) Sponsor banter and Viking Thor gag (ads ignored)
(00:01:51) Setting the stage: marathon of debates and fatigue
(00:02:23) Debate grind: taking lumps, practice, and preparation
(00:03:20) Benadryl jokes, speed-talking styles, and debate cadence
(00:04:00) Destiny vs. George Floyd: unveiling the goofy prompt
(00:06:23) Strategy talk: framing, disingenuous premises, and audience targeting
(00:08:23) Does Rob believe it? On-air persona vs. sincerity
(00:09:40) Breath control, choir technique, and the art of filibuster
(00:10:26) Community check-in: James, veggies, and panel etiquette
(00:11:22) Why Ben Carson entered the argument
(00:12:27) Ben Carson recap: surgeon, film portrayal, and contrast to Floyd
(00:13:27) How the debate prompt actually emerged on X
(00:15:15) Passion vs. provocation: who really cared about the prompt?
(00:16:12) Roasting etiquette: humor, humanity, and impressions
(00:18:39) Who is Destiny? Terminally online vs. real-world impact
(00:19:44) Attempted links to real violence and why they failed
(00:20:20) "It all happens for a reason": policy fallout and riots
(00:22:05) Best zingers: tongue speed jokes and debate levity
(00:23:06) Votes, correlation claims, and election context avoided
(00:24:34) Panel dynamics: likability, kittens, and fatigue
(00:25:51) Why the prompt was a loser: comparative societal effects
(00:27:19) Sunday’s prior debate: health origins and turning up the spice
(00:28:34) Bible study recap: hell, Old vs. New Testament references
(00:34:36) Dante, Milton, and layered hells vs. modern sermons
(00:36:00) Heaven tropes, androgynous angels, and pop-culture references
(00:41:03) Youth group confessions and culture-war humor
(00:44:20) Platform limits: what could not be shown on YouTube
(00:46:02) Five hours of Rob: voice, pace, and patience thresholds
(00:48:19) Hockey-fight metaphors and debate aggression control
(00:49:25) Opening statements mattered; the middle did not
(00:50:54) Counterfactuals mocked: "If my aunt had nuts…"
(00:52:30) Schoolyard snow stories and Minnesota memories
(00:53:45) Terminally online culture: who actually knows Destiny?
(00:55:27) Danger hair discourse, subcultures, and pop icons
(00:56:28) Taylor Swift, reviews, and pop-compare comedy
(00:59:24) Orthodox sphere callouts: debates that never happen
(01:00:50) Credit the source: Jay Dyer vs. Ian Davis infographic spat
(01:02:08) Audience shout-outs and community emoji talk
(01:03:20) Open panels: cameras off, voices on, and after-show dynamics
(01:04:25) Reddit as "front page": search, indexing, and drama
(01:05:51) Band names and bits: Earth, Wind, and Friar
(01:06:36) Renaissance Festival mode: victory silliness
(01:08:04) Vikings, TV trends, and historical corrections
(01:10:13) Braveheart myths, Robert the Bruce, and Scottish defiance
(01:12:11) Have you been to hell? Norse Hel and cycles of life
(01:15:26) AI lookups, history context, and heathen vs. Christian phases
(01:17:16) Underworld terms: Tartarus, Sheol, Gehenna, and rhetoric
(01:18:36) Stochastic terrorism: definition, usage, and misfires
(01:21:07) Emoji euphemisms, censorship, and code-breaking AI
(01:23:16) Micro Machines reference: fast talkers and empty flights
(01:25:15) Speculating stimulants: tics, twitches, and staying awake
(01:26:22) Beth’s Bible deep dive and promised reposts
(01:27:23) Spicy sauces aside; back to tone-policing Christians
(01:28:56) Boys and their toys: nostalgia, panels, and easy wins
(01:30:06) Ortho bros vs. real-world obscurity: who amplifies whom?
(01:31:00) Trucks, sticks, and mountain living logistics
(01:34:39) Off-grid realities: water, power, and maintenance
(01:36:28) Road woes, delivery limits, and deep Humboldt living
(01:40:18) Murder Mountain lore: cannabis prices then and now
(01:41:56) Rescheduling talk: schedule III implications
(01:43:31) Painkillers, OxyContin, and pain vs. dependence
(01:46:03) Hospital meds, fear of withdrawal, and home distilling tale
(01:48:42) Poppy tincture night: no pain, warm glow reflections
(01:50:56) Euphoria show aside and media awareness
(01:53:25) Streaming catalogs: Bond without guns, edits, and add-ons
(01:56:04) Celebrity brushes: Claire Danes, Homeland, and TV eras
(01:58:12) Claire’s store closure parody note and mall culture
(02:00:09) Mall debate prompt: Claire’s, Hot Topic, or Spencer’s?
(02:02:11) Party stories and glow sticks: cautionary tales
(02:04:10) Body mods, LEDs, and novelty devices in the wild
(02:06:05) Underwear taxonomy: thongs, cheekies, and VPL lore
(02:08:55) Edge humor, memes, and media snuff accusations
(02:10:08) Gadgets, plugs, and social reel curiosities
(02:12:18) Degeneracy disclaimers, mushrooms, and memory wipes
(02:13:12) Bears, coops, and Bubba: farm interruptions live
(02:14:14) Holy water jokes, relics, and lineage of oil bits
(02:19:43) Bitcoin daddy, spaceballs rumors, and pop returns
(02:21:23) More Thrones, less Bond guns: media trend tracker
(02:22:40) Building a duck pond: backhoe, trees, and fertilizer loops
(02:23:59) Worm farms, compost towers, and soil amendments
(02:24:44) Too wet this season: cal-mag fixes and garden notes
(02:25:29) Pop detours: Swift, lyrics, memes, and quarterbacks
(02:27:10) Turkey calls, wild flocks, and guard turkeys
(02:31:14) Powdered Dusty and symmetric rhetoric: "this is war" talk
(02:33:11) Overton window swing-back and riot demographics
(02:35:41) Where did steakhouses go? Beef supply squeeze
(02:36:47) Hay prices, feed math, and feasibility of mini cows
(02:38:31) Auctions, processors, and consolidation pains
(02:40:01) Mobile processing units and practical butchery
(02:41:12) Deer, trucks, and rural collisions
(02:41:46) How we got here: local plants to mega processors
(02:43:39) The true costs: fuel, lodging, freezer trucks
(02:44:39) Communal feasts vs. kosher limits; meat raffles culture
(02:45:06) Beefmaps and Slim’s Cuts: handshake food sourcing
(02:46:22) Regulatory capture: who can afford to comply?
(02:47:07) Cannabis parallels: licensure pushing out mom-and-pop
(02:48:01) Convenience vs. quality: supermarkets, Walmarts, and aisles
(02:54:01) Perimeter shopping and shrinking produce sections
(02:55:19) Local markets done right: provenance and quality control
(02:56:47) Straus dairy praise: cream, eggnog, and real ingredients
(03:05:03) Imitation vs. authentic: the poutine parable
(03:07:01) Debate craft: openings, truncation, and tempo
(03:09:42) Publishing plan: members-only windows and replays
(03:12:53) Wednesday’s "Only comedy allowed": show promo
(03:15:13) Designing the thumbnail: safe searches and logos
(03:16:59) Best cuts of beef: picanha vs. ribeye and cooking tips
(03:18:56) House of Prime Rib stories and famous patrons
(03:20:00) Fame, normalcy, and not acting like an asshole
(03:21:18) Kids’ cards and cartoons: Yu Gi Oh and Pokémon detour
(03:21:41) Terminally online vs. town reality: final word
(03:22:44) Wrap-up: schedule, open panels, and costume challenge
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From Hellfire to High Steaks: The DFD Deep Dive
The victory lap quickly evolved into the eclectic, exploratory conversation that defines the show.
- Debunking Dogma: The conversation pivoted to a prior debate on hell, where Ben argued that modern Christian concepts are literary inventions from Dante’s Inferno—“The actual center hell is ice instead of fire”—not pure scripture. It was a fascinating critique of rigid, online “Ortho Bros” who are, as Ben observed, “so used to debating people that haven't given their worldview any thought.”
- The Food Reformation: True to form, the stream championed self-sufficiency. Ben gave a glimpse of his off-grid life on "Murder Mountain," and the crew passionately advocated for firing your grocery store. They promoted handshake relationships with local ranchers via beefmaps.com, leading to a heated debate over the best cut of meat. The winner? The Picanha, which Benjamin praised as so tender "you put it on your tongue, and it dissolves like it's a fucking hit of acid. Beautiful."
This debrief is more than a recap; it’s a manifesto for the Dog Face Dudes ethos. It’s where:
- Stochastic terrorism is debated with the same intensity as the perfect slipknot for tying your pecker to a tree.
- Madonna’s Kabbalah class feels less profound than a lesson in regenerative agriculture.
- The search for truth is a wild, off-road adventure, far from the scripted highways of online ideologues.
Chaos, Cows, and a Crushing Debate Victory: Why This Dog Face Dudes Episode is a Must-Watch
Forget Taylor Swift’s new album. The real cultural event this week was the Dog Face Dudes’ post-game analysis of their legendary debate, “Who is worse for society: George Floyd or Destiny?” Last night’s stream was a masterclass in intellectual demolition, rural wisdom, and the kind of chaotic comedy you can only get when hosts refuse to stay in their lane.
If you missed the live showdown, this debrief is your essential guide. Here’s why you need to watch it.
The Main Event: Substance Obliterates Speed
The DFD crew—Steve, Benjamin Balderson, and Marcus—dissected their victory over opponents Rob (a rapid-fire speaker dubbed "Rob Noire") and the largely comatose "Marte." The critique was as brutal as it was hilarious.
Marcus painted a vivid picture of Rob’s style: “The faster Rob was speaking, the higher pitch his voice was coming out… a chunky Gilbert Gottfried.” Benjamin summed up the duo’s dynamic perfectly: “One of you seems like you've taken heroin and the other one, like, you've snorted all the cocaine.”
While their opponents flailed, Steve and Ben anchored their argument in reality. They contrasted the global, tangible impact of George Floyd’s death with the terminally online influence of Destiny. Steve’s closing argument was definitive: “For the terminally online… Destiny is very serious and very evil and super important. But when you go out into the real world… nobody is doing anything in Destiny's name.”
The Verdict: A landslide win for the Dudes, proving that prepared arguments and real-world grounding will always beat a high-speed verbal filibuster.
From Hellfire to High Steaks: The DFD Deep Dive
The victory lap quickly evolved into the eclectic, exploratory conversation that defines the show.
- Debunking Dogma: The conversation pivoted to a prior debate on hell, where Ben argued that modern Christian concepts are literary inventions from Dante’s Inferno—“The actual center hell is ice instead of fire”—not pure scripture. It was a fascinating critique of rigid, online “Ortho Bros” who are, as Ben observed, “so used to debating people that haven't given their worldview any thought.”
- The Food Reformation: True to form, the stream championed self-sufficiency. Ben gave a glimpse of his off-grid life on "Murder Mountain," and the crew passionately advocated for firing your grocery store. They promoted handshake relationships with local ranchers via beefmaps.com, leading to a heated debate over the best cut of meat. The winner? The Picanha, which Benjamin praised as so tender "you put it on your tongue, and it dissolves like it's a fucking hit of acid. Beautiful."
This debrief is more than a recap; it’s a manifesto for the Dog Face Dudes ethos. It’s where:
- Stochastic terrorism is debated with the same intensity as the perfect slipknot for tying your pecker to a tree.
- Madonna’s Kabbalah class feels less profound than a lesson in regenerative agriculture.
- The search for truth is a wild, off-road adventure, far from the scripted highways of online ideologues.
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Chaos, Cows, and a Crushing Debate Victory: Why This Dog Face Dudes Episode is a Must-Watch
Forget Taylor Swift’s new album. The real cultural event this week was the Dog Face Dudes’ post-game analysis of their legendary debate, “Who is worse for society: George Floyd or Destiny?” Last night’s stream was a masterclass in intellectual demolition, rural wisdom, and the kind of chaotic comedy you can only get when hosts refuse to stay in their lane.
If you missed the live showdown, this debrief is your essential guide. Here’s why you need to watch it.
The Main Event: Substance Obliterates Speed
The DFD crew—Steve, Benjamin Balderson, and Marcus—dissected their victory over opponents Rob (a rapid-fire speaker dubbed "Rob Noire") and the largely comatose "Marte." The critique was as brutal as it was hilarious.
Marcus painted a vivid picture of Rob’s style: “The faster Rob was speaking, the higher pitch his voice was coming out… a chunky Gilbert Gottfried.” Benjamin summed up the duo’s dynamic perfectly: “One of you seems like you've taken heroin and the other one, like, you've snorted all the cocaine.”
While their opponents flailed, Steve and Ben anchored their argument in reality. They contrasted the global, tangible impact of George Floyd’s death with the terminally online influence of Destiny. Steve’s closing argument was definitive: “For the terminally online… Destiny is very serious and very evil and super important. But when you go out into the real world… nobody is doing anything in Destiny's name.”
The Verdict: A landslide win for the Dudes, proving that prepared arguments and real-world grounding will always beat a high-speed verbal filibuster.
From Hellfire to High Steaks: The DFD Deep Dive
The victory lap quickly evolved into the eclectic, exploratory conversation that defines the show.
- Debunking Dogma: The conversation pivoted to a prior debate on hell, where Ben argued that modern Christian concepts are literary inventions from Dante’s Inferno—“The actual center hell is ice instead of fire”—not pure scripture. It was a fascinating critique of rigid, online “Ortho Bros” who are, as Ben observed, “so used to debating people that haven't given their worldview any thought.”
- The Food Reformation: True to form, the stream championed self-sufficiency. Ben gave a glimpse of his off-grid life on "Murder Mountain," and the crew passionately advocated for firing your grocery store. They promoted handshake relationships with local ranchers via beefmaps.com, leading to a heated debate over the best cut of meat. The winner? The Picanha, which Benjamin praised as so tender "you put it on your tongue, and it dissolves like it's a fucking hit of acid. Beautiful."
This debrief is more than a recap; it’s a manifesto for the Dog Face Dudes ethos. It’s where:
- Stochastic terrorism is debated with the same intensity as the perfect slipknot for tying your pecker to a tree.
- Madonna’s Kabbalah class feels less profound than a lesson in regenerative agriculture.
- The search for truth is a wild, off-road adventure, far from the scripted highways of online ideologues.
Debate Detox: Speed-Talking, Stochastic Tactics, and the Real-World Scorecard
Who’s Worse for Society? The Prompt, the Pivots, and the Post-Game
From Hell Debates to Beef Maps: A Host’s Guide to Cutting Through Noise
Filibusters, Flameouts, and Facts: Inside a Five-Hour Free-Fall
Terminally Online vs. Reality: Post-Debate Lessons and Open Panel Plans
In this raucous debrief, I recap a whirlwind few days of debates and panels—minus the sponsor schtick. We break down a chaotic four-way debate over the prompt “Who’s worse for society: George Floyd or Destiny?” and why the opposition’s frantic filibustering, moving goalposts, and surface-level tactics fell flat. From calling out stochastic-terrorism style arguments to the on-air culture clash between terminally-online discourse and real-world impacts, I walk through our strategy, the funniest barbs, and the reality that likability and clarity beat speed-talking every time. We also unpack an earlier Bible-study panel that veered into hell, Dante, underworld lore, and orthodoxy beefs—highlighting how literature, history, and lived context get lost in AI-fed talking points and doctrinal rigidity.
Between debate war stories, we veer into off-grid life, ranching, rising beef costs, and the value of handshake food economies, plus side quests on comedy, culture, and the hazard of mistaking imitation products (in food and media) for the real thing. We close with plans for an open-panel costume stream and a standing invite for sharper, good-faith debates that don’t hide behind breathless monologues or Internet echo chambers.
[00:00:01]
Unknown:
Who are you guys? Where are you, dude? You're metal, dude. Dude, dude.
[00:00:10] Unknown:
Dude, dude. Dude, dude. Dude, dude. Dude, dude. Dude, dude. Dude, dude. Dude, dude. Dude, dude. Dude, dude. Dude, dude. Dude, dude. Dude, dude. Dude, dude.
[00:00:19] Unknown:
Delivery dogfish. Delivery dogfish. I'm the dude. Nine, thirty
[00:00:49] Unknown:
Three, two, 1, fight.
[00:00:54] Unknown:
Oh, you guys. Where are you, dude?
[00:01:02] allen marcus:
Hello? Tonight's stream brought to us by is that say Bena Bena Drill?
[00:01:09] Unknown:
We are so excited to announce tonight's new sponsor.
[00:01:18] allen marcus:
Our sponsor tonight is going to be an ad read by the Ozempic god of war. His name is Thor. He is Viking. Viking. He's a Viking. Do you want me to bring up the do you want me to bring up the clip? Are you Wayne or are you Garth in this situation? Like, I Stop. I know we told that we told that joke on our stream when Wayne McCroy joined us. So we were we were all Wayne in that situation. And We are all And last night was the the culmination of many months of badgering and begging and pleading anyone to come and debate us and accepting every debate that we were invited to, and now we gotta talk about it.
[00:02:13] Unknown:
Oh, I'm on a bed. I was on a bender. I did a couple debates back to back all night, and I am whooped.
[00:02:21] allen marcus:
What the hell you did that for?
[00:02:24] Unknown:
Well, as you said, we're trying to get up our build up our debate. You gotta you gotta take your lumps, and you gotta you gotta get yourself out there. And then you then you start getting getting the thing, and so we gotta get ourselves out there and take the lumps and give out some lumps and Bubba, stop, dude.
[00:02:46] allen marcus:
Lumps are those lovely lady bumps? What what is a lump? Yeah.
[00:02:52] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Marte has lovely lovely lady bumps. And he greases them up.
[00:03:00] Unknown:
They're shiny. Hey, man. Don't pick on Marte. He had a he had a condition yesterday that he was trying to treat. Yeah. Allergies? Is he is he allergic
[00:03:12] allen marcus:
to masculinity? I couldn't figure out what the allergy what was the need for Benadryl? He's allergic. Good arguments. Okay. Alright. So when Marte took Dibenadryl, it should have been Rob taking the thing to slow him down and and put him at human speed. He was he was talking at superhuman speed thinking he was public and Superman.
[00:03:45] Unknown:
You can always tell the people that don't really have a good argument when they're talking at Ben Shapiro's speed and saying fucking nothing.
[00:03:57] allen marcus:
So if you had an entry theme song, it would be We were talking about a him and a destiny debate recently,
[00:04:03] Unknown:
and destiny also talks extraordinarily fast. I wonder, like, if you put that their debate on double. I I've not seen it, but if you played it and then put it on double, I gotta wonder what that sounds like. Like, just probably actually get, like, memes to come out. If you took a the Chipmunks Christmas album Mhmm.
[00:04:22] Unknown:
And then just, like, scratched it backwards.
[00:04:26] allen marcus:
So who is this Who is the stripper named Destiny?
[00:04:36] Unknown:
I mean, half of them. I don't know. Let's call up Shotgun Willy's right now. Hey. Can I speak to Destiny? And they'll be like, which one? Crystal blue hair. They'd be like, which one? Which one? The one with the eye bruises. Which one?
[00:04:51] allen marcus:
Savannah Destiny,
[00:04:54] Unknown:
Laquisha Destiny. What flavor of Destiny do you want, sir? That's the one that's gacked out. Which one? The gacked out. Oh, the one that you need to call herself Mercedes.
[00:05:03] Unknown:
Alright. You're gonna have to be way more specific. Jesus, dude. Who do you wanna talk to?
[00:05:10] allen marcus:
The one named after the whiskey drink.
[00:05:15] Unknown:
Oh, Tennessee, Destiny. Tennessee. Oh, she doesn't work on Tuesdays.
[00:05:19] allen marcus:
Okay. She's off on Tuesdays. Alright. Alright. Well, I guess we'll have to do it on Wednesday then.
[00:05:28] Unknown:
Okay. Hey, Roland. We have to do in case you asked me last night is that Ben and I were on, Sarah, the raging tomatoes channel. We were, debating
[00:05:41] Unknown:
Rob Arnar
[00:05:42] Unknown:
Nerd. And, and Marte. Who's been on this show?
[00:05:47] allen marcus:
Courageously has been on this show. And courageously, courageously
[00:05:53] Unknown:
fought again. And look, it was a very goofy prompt.
[00:05:58] allen marcus:
What was the prompt?
[00:06:01] Unknown:
It was definitely a goofy prompt. Keen? You know, the the prompt was who's worse for society, George Floyd or destiny? Worded in a way that our opponents really tried to hone in on, but failed to in every aspect of it. And that's okay. It's okay if they're failures. We're not mad at them for that or for not being able to prepare an argument that was beyond a, you know, second grade reading level for mouth breathing liberals. We're not mad at them for that. In fact, we thank them for that because it made our job so much easier
[00:06:43] Unknown:
and way more fun. Yeah. When you cut when you come in prepared to to to box to the box of a retarded child and and and find a beast standing there, it just sucks for you. You didn't train right. Yeah.
[00:06:59] allen marcus:
And said by the hollow purse perspective that it was, like, arguing with stomach cancer about whether or not kidney cancer is worse than my liver cancer.
[00:07:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was a funny comment.
[00:07:13] Unknown:
Hilarious debate, Brock. Both horrible people. Continue to talk. As far as I'm concerned, though, they you know, I we can only be so proud because they definitely took a prop. I don't see how they could've won. Like, you would've had to have been
[00:07:27] Unknown:
fighting retarded liberals to make to win that. What what you what you would have had to have had is the totally disingenuous argument that they tried to bring where you can only incorporate one element of a person and you have to ignore everything else. In order for their thing to fit, like, they had to have their cake, eat it too, which again I know is what Rob is used to. But in ordinary circumstances, like, real conversations don't work that way. So within the confines of YouTube debate, they really did probably think that they could walk in and stomp out anyone with, you know, subpar, rudimentary thinking skills or the same type of just complete surface level narrative believing goons that those two guys are.
And that's not the conversation that they got into. That's not the debate they had.
[00:08:26] Unknown:
No. And it did not go well.
[00:08:28] allen marcus:
Do you believe that Rob truly believes everything he said last night, or was he speaking to his narrow defined
[00:08:38] Unknown:
audience in terms that they would understand? I don't know Rob well enough to make that determination, to be honest with you. I really don't. I the my first, like, actual real encounter with the dude was I think it was on a a panel with him for, like, five minutes once.
[00:08:53] allen marcus:
Okay. And you were interacting on Twitter x with him a little bit?
[00:08:59] Unknown:
Sort of. But yeah. Yeah.
[00:09:03] allen marcus:
Okay. Because that's where I started following him and then seeing his streams. And on his streams, it's a lot of solo soliloquies where he's just talking and talking and talking at a more relaxed pace. But now when there's other people on the panel and there's a question and there's a beat and a moment of silence, he filled in every moment of silence with more words. And the more words that came out of his mouth required more words to explain the words he just said as he was drowning in his own drool because he never stopped to take a breath.
And I think, someone in our comments was saying, he's inward breathing. So he's breathing in as he's seething and speaking and then continue to speak, so he never ran out of breath because he was always on his shallow breath. But in choir, that's a technique to continue singing and holding and sustaining a note for much longer than absolutely humanly necessary.
[00:10:07] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean, hey. Let's, you know, give him credit. Dude, obviously, has an expansive lung capacity.
[00:10:15] Unknown:
Amazing. It's amazing. I'm gonna go Jesse Lee Peterson with it. Amazing. Amazing.
[00:10:24] Unknown:
Amazing.
[00:10:27] Unknown:
What's up, James? Oh, James might come visit with us in a bit. If he gets done if he gets his work done in time Yeah. To eat his supper. Remember, you gotta eat your vegetables too, James. Not just not you you gotta eat all of it, the broccoli too.
[00:10:45] allen marcus:
I was trying to get in touch with a Ben Carson. Is that car is the son of a who is Ben Carson, and why was his name coming out his mouth so much last night? Well, I I I he was trying to,
[00:11:00] Unknown:
set up a scenario, and and and that part of it was was, not a bad shot in the dark to take stop ups, you loud mouth shit. They were well behaved last night. They were. They were. Probably can be rowdy tonight. Yep. Yep. Everybody's everybody's like, you've been debating for days. Not Billy Carson. Ben. Like, car what he was trying to do was set up a scenario where, he he was trying to make it out like, you're blaming him because he's a bad guy, but had that Ben Carson who, is basically outside of also being black, probably as opposite from Floyd George Floyd as you can get.
He's a he can serve he's conservative, ran for Republican president one year. He's a doctor, Mhmm. A highly regarded doctor as a matter of fact. And when you say regarded, you mean regarded and not a slur word? I am. Highly regarded. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. No. I believe that there's procedures that he invented that they use across the country. Like, he's a highly regarded doctor. Yeah. He's a brain surgeon.
[00:12:14] Unknown:
Yeah. Cuba Gooding Junior played him in a movie.
[00:12:19] Unknown:
I did not know that. I that now I understand that reference. I was like, when you were saying it, I was just like, don't I don't understand. But Okay. Yeah.
[00:12:28] Unknown:
Yeah. It was like a it was like these hand in these hands or healing hands or something like that was the name of the movie, and it was about Ben Carson developing some brain surgery technique or something like that. And this is a couple of years before he ran for president.
[00:12:43] Unknown:
So, I mean, so, I mean, you can see that that's an exact opposite of, guy that's running around stealing and hurting people and doing massive amounts of drugs.
[00:12:55] Unknown:
There wasn't any interest. It was just the the prompt. I I think that's what a lot of people are missing. Let let me let me go ahead and explain this real quick. Right. The prompt that we were debating last night, it just sort of, like, half ass came out of a back and forth between Ben and Marte. And I don't think that they wanted to like, I think that if given any alternative, they would have taken that. Same with us. It's just that's the prompt that we got. So, like, professionals, we went and constructed an argument in order to debate it.
And that applies to to Rob too. Marte, not so much because he was asleep the entire time. But, you know, at at least for Rob, he at least came up with, you know, a a somewhat yeah. Yeah. He came came up with a strategy. So Rob felt confident.
[00:13:57] Unknown:
That it came about was Marte made some post on x. I don't remember exactly what it said, but something about, Destiny being quick. I am not a jungle gym, dude. That's, like, the fourth time. The, something about Destiny and, how horrible they were for society. And I was like, you know, George Floyd the effect George Floyd had, which if you're gonna use the things that other people do because of that person, then you have to measure that against each other equally. So the effects from George Floyd were mass riots, you know, blah blah blah. So I and, honestly, I I didn't give a shit about the subject. I was just poking at you. Yeah. I was you we are trying we've been trying to, pick fights with Ortho Bros, and, he's the fur he's the only one that's actually, responded to the call or or showed up for the fight. He's they they most of them have responded. They just don't show up.
Chicken shits. But, so him and I just kinda give each other shit back and forth. So I was just giving him some shit, and he's like, oh, yeah. You wanna debate it? And it turned into a debate.
[00:15:16] allen marcus:
Shame and real thing.
[00:15:18] Unknown:
Yeah. It really happened. I mean, it's not like anybody, dude, anybody involved feels pass well, Rob might feel passionately about Destiny. I'm not I kinda got that right. Feels he But does certainly didn't feel passionate about George Floyd. And, you know, it the the the only argument that Marte brought was people made funny memes about George Floyd after he was dead. Well, you're mad at people for making funny memes about Charlie Kirk after he got shot, but you're, like, celebrating the people who made funny memes about George Floyd when he got fucking, you know, x ed out. Like, I I don't even understand why you would incorporate that into your argument, dude.
It Marte did a terrible job. Just across the board fundamentally terrible job. You're not funny. If you don't, if you don't like it or at least if you can't acknowledge the humanity of somebody when you're making fun of them, you're just gonna come off like a dumb fucking fool.
[00:16:33] allen marcus:
And, like, that love the man so much that you intimately know him to make fun of him in a loving way. I talk about this a lot on on Aim Wake Up. Not to acknowledge
[00:16:45] Unknown:
that in a Howard Stern manner, like, when they when that whole thing with Howard Stern where they're like, how long do the people that like him listen? No. Like, twenty minutes? How many how long do the people that hate him listen? An hour and a half? Yeah. Like, they don't realize how much they are that Yeah. For destiny. That they they've gotta listen to his every fucking word so that way they can respond to his word Where when I pulled up Destiny, my wife my wife literally thought it was Mick Foley from wrestling.
[00:17:16] Unknown:
Oh. Oh. Well, no offense to Mick Foley. Please don't come to the to Mick Foley. Please do not come beat me up. Yeah. But no. I mean, it's it's one of those things where, like like, okay, dude. I don't know these guys, so I can casually roast them. You know what I mean? It's not like it's not personal. It's not a big deal. Nothing like that. If I'm gonna do a character voice, if I'm gonna try to do an impression, it can't be somebody that I hate because then I'm just gonna look like Alec Baldwin doing Trump on Saturday Night Live, and that was terrible. Like, Alec Baldwin hates Trump.
Mhmm. He's gonna get a terrible impression. You know? Yeah. Shane Gillis doesn't hate Trump. Maybe doesn't like a bunch of stuff about him too. Doesn't necessarily vocalize it, but he doesn't hate the guy. And so he does a fantastic Trump. When I do Lindsey Graham's voice on the show, I'm not doing Lindsey Graham. I'm doing the substitute teacher from Family Guy. The that's the voice that I'm using because I love that character. It's fucking hilarious, and it applies almost perfectly with Lindsey Graham. It really does. I don't like Lindsey Graham. I couldn't do his voice.
There's no way.
[00:18:40] Unknown:
Jason, Jason, I think that was, like, I see my personal chats put that comment up, like, 12 times, 15 times. Like, who the fuck is Destiny? He's a weird blue haired, no morals shit that is totally libtarted, and he's he's big on the Internet, and he's he's jacked himself up to where he says the most outrageous things and gets attention for doing it.
[00:19:11] Unknown:
Like, it it it's all bad. Well, and that's the argument that we kept trying to, like, drill into their skulls. Sure, man. For the terminally online, for the people who never leave the fucking computer, I'm sure to you, Destiny is very serious and very evil and super important. But when you go out into the real world, like both Ben and I were saying the entire time throughout, nobody is doing anything in Destiny's name. Nobody's committing any crimes for death. Rob tried to multiple times totally disingenuously without any fucking evidence, without even a shred of evidence, tried to connect Destiny to Charlie Kirk's assassination because he was desperate and grasping for straws.
[00:19:59] allen marcus:
That that was the lowest point for me having to hear anything about Charlie Kirk. And, Marty's argument was basically
[00:20:09] Unknown:
Marty.
[00:20:11] allen marcus:
Marty.
[00:20:12] Unknown:
Marty. Party with Marty. Like Billy Ray Valentine in trading's places. Trading, but you gotta call him Marte. Marte.
[00:20:20] allen marcus:
Martha was real sleepy last night, and she was, crocheting a doily with the words, it all happens for a reason. And the whole argument was, yeah, George Floyd. It all happens for a reason. And the benefit of the bad things was the government made more laws that are gonna benefit people after the fact. So even though so much property was destroyed, looting, windows shattered, neighborhoods burnt to the ground. Martial law in the Minneapolis neighborhoods, there was people with paint guns shooting people on their porches saying curfew, get back in. That was all through June 2020.
And all those terrible things happened during the the medical period of our history, you know, where there was a concern about all of this. So on top of that, a group of people left their, seclusion. What was the word? Where you stay inside for a while? Quarantine is the word. So during quarantine time, a group of people were allowed to go and stand on bridges to stop traffic. And they all did this in the name of a figure who created
[00:21:57] Unknown:
shit, and he relubed your fucking lens. What a slick bastard.
[00:22:03] allen marcus:
Slick. So slick.
[00:22:05] Unknown:
The funniest part of that whole thing, though, was when I think it was Rob. It it was, let's see.
[00:22:19] Unknown:
I think the funniest part of the whole thing was when I told Rob that he talks too fast and that his wife must love him.
[00:22:27] allen marcus:
Well,
[00:22:28] Unknown:
the the tongue move that fast.
[00:22:30] allen marcus:
The the tongue movement comment was was beautiful. That was very well received, and he made it known that he, in fact, does have a wife. He was very proud of the fact that a guy like him has a wife.
[00:22:48] Unknown:
Yes.
[00:22:49] allen marcus:
So that was good.
[00:22:51] Unknown:
And now we know why. It wasn't for his physique.
[00:22:59] Unknown:
Well, again Well, the funniest part to me would would and Rob was just trapped in this one where where he was like, well, you would have to show that, you know, George Floyd, you know, moved more people to vote Democrat. And I was like, well, if you look at the results of that particular election, which happened just a couple of months in the wake of the George Floyd riots Oh, wait a second. Way that it was reported, Joe Biden got more votes than any person singularly in the history of ever always that ran for president. Yeah. There's a good point for you. Correlation, but this is the point you're making. And using your metrics might have disproved you to the point of the most votes in the history of ever always.
Maybe you should shut the fuck up.
[00:23:55] allen marcus:
Yeah. The election was not even discussed, and that was in the same time frame. There's a lot of things that were not brought up because they were not in favor of the prompt that needed to be argued to the tee directly and specifically without any wiggle room because there is no time to pivot. There was no time to respond to Benjamin and Steve last night. It was Rob running his mouth, losing all of the goodwill that Chad had prepared for him. And by the end of the evening, everyone was just very tired of Rob and signed a pledge to never listen to him ever again.
So it was a career ending debate for Rob. I don't know how he'll ever recover from this. He's gonna have to not stream anymore.
[00:24:57] Unknown:
I don't think that's gonna happen.
[00:25:03] allen marcus:
That was the plateau. It's all downhill from here.
[00:25:07] Unknown:
Don't jump on that.
[00:25:14] allen marcus:
The kittens won the debate last night. Fan favorites. Just being likable goes so far. And you two, gosh darn it, were so likable last night. Just wanted to Yeah. I don't know why the are
[00:25:30] Unknown:
so scared to debate us.
[00:25:33] Unknown:
Rob Rob,
[00:25:34] Unknown:
I I will give Rob. This wasn't a debate Rob was asking for. And, I don't know that it was a prompt that he would have wanted to debate. He was just, helping out. He was just agreeing to help out Marty.
[00:25:49] Unknown:
Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. I mean, I I don't think either of us wanted to necessarily debate based on that prompt. But you do you know, if somebody's like, hey. You have the opportunity to go on this show and do this and this is the thing, then you go and you do that thing, and you good. Make your best argument and see what happens.
[00:26:14] Unknown:
Yeah. You know? Lot lot of stuff from lot lot of, lot of debates on Sarah Schoach. Got a a big panel. Good way to get in and debate other people, and I thought Steve and I made a hell of a showing. I I I I, I'm not gonna be too hard on those guys. They, I I I think that, they they had a losing prompt. You know, there's no way that you can look at the effects that George Floyd had on society and that, Destiny ad has on society and compare the two in any way, shape, or form. So I'm not gonna be too hard on them. I thought they, you know, they made creative, attempts at, making the case. It just and and against other people, it might have worked.
I guess Steve and I, absolutely not. Abso fucking lutely not. You guys got zero traction. It went nowhere. They know it. We know it. The day before, just I went to the powder or went on to vibes, channel and, had a discussion about, health and the origins of health. I think it started out kinda it started out, you know, it started out like great grandma's potato salad from the Midwest with only a lit with only maybe a little salt and pepper in it. This is all mayonnaise. And I put mayonnaise in the salad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
A little zingy. And, I decided that rather than just mayonnaise that, about half an hour forty five minutes into it, I was tired of the the tasteless potato salad. So I, chucked some ghost peppers in there.
[00:28:13] allen marcus:
This is this was a a prior debate. Happened Sunday night. We talked about last night, Monday night, the Rob Knorr, Noir, I'll call him. He's the he's a mysterious guy. Rob Knorr. Like like, Pinot Noir. Pinot Noir. Sunday night was the the bible study, studying of the bible by, Baptist Vibe, who's also been on our streams here on Tuesday on dog face dudes. So Benjamin joined in to offer another perspective, and that perspective was one that caused a certain Beth to get a b under her bonnet. What was that about, Benjamin?
[00:29:06] Unknown:
Yeah. They, she very much, has some childhood fantasies of Christianity and no reality into it. And I was just smashing her with she and she says dumb shit, like, you know, like that there's historical evidence for some of these biblical stories like the Exodus. I have a question for you. Except for in Egypt, there's no history of the Exodus. That's only in the bible. I have a question.
[00:29:35] allen marcus:
Have you been inside of Israel? Have you have you been inside of it?
[00:29:43] Unknown:
I I I I I have not been in Israel. I I cannot think of a worse place to be,
[00:29:52] allen marcus:
for somebody like me. You have not seen I don't touch the wall.
[00:29:57] Unknown:
From the way I understand it, the Hebrews were slaves all over the damn place, and they never really had their own fucking land, so nobody really knows where Israel is anyways. And the the political state that was assigned to an area in Pallet inside Palestine, after, World War two, is only created and lived by through a playbook that preexists. It it there's nothing prophetic about it. They have the book, and they're living it out.
[00:30:33] Unknown:
I have been inside one once, and I did, you know, touch the back walls, but it was,
[00:30:46] Unknown:
That seems legit.
[00:30:47] Unknown:
Not really, like, memorable.
[00:30:52] allen marcus:
Did it taste like olives?
[00:30:55] Unknown:
No. No? No. No. Which is, you know, it's been because they stole the olives too. How did you know
[00:31:05] allen marcus:
what she was then? How could you verify that?
[00:31:09] Unknown:
Well, aside from the admission, I I guess I guess the only way that I could verify it Mhmm. Is that when I pulled out, there was a receipt. Well, other than that, I'm I'm not really sure.
[00:31:32] allen marcus:
Was the receipt for you or for her? It was an invoice, in fact. Yeah. You you both filed and and put in your
[00:31:39] Unknown:
Yeah. Put in your, cabinet
[00:31:41] allen marcus:
for later.
[00:31:43] Unknown:
Mhmm. Okay.
[00:31:47] allen marcus:
Wow. So, how's that?
[00:31:55] Unknown:
Couldn't I'll be here all week.
[00:31:57] allen marcus:
See, this is this is how we we breathe, and we we take breaths, and we allow for margin and space in a conversation.
[00:32:06] Unknown:
Yeah. That that that that Beth, she kept wanting to bring up old testament things, which is where hell is primarily described and dealt with. And then I I kept talking about Jews and she'd get all mad. And it's like, well, that's their book. They're the ones who wrote that shit. Like, what the fuck do you mean?
[00:32:28] Unknown:
Cooter hummus. Yeah. Avoid the cooter hummus if you can. Thank you, Jason. I hope Jason is doing well, man. Jason is a a hell of a human being, and we we love that motherfucker around here.
[00:32:43] allen marcus:
So not only do we have the best chatters, they have some of the brilliant minds of all Internet, of any Internet ever, and they're spending time with us. We're very appreciative of that. Great sense of the payment all around. You see this, by OG Pavlov's?
[00:33:06] Unknown:
Sinai was considered Africa and not Asia. Well, now Sinai is considered Israel.
[00:33:15] Unknown:
Africa
[00:33:16] Unknown:
doesn't make more sense to me. Because that's where the the Golan is. Right? Yeah. Where's that Ararat, not Sinai? Do I have my geography fucked up? We'd have to look at maps.
[00:33:29] allen marcus:
All
[00:33:30] Unknown:
I don't know. All those people from the Mediterranean are, that's that's it's bad water like the native say. Don't don't drink that water. Do you see how those people act? They're all fucked up. So I I just ignore that area for the most part.
[00:33:47] allen marcus:
So then when we got to discuss the New Testament just a little bit, they stopped even talking about the Bible at that point When the New Testament scriptures were brought up and the words of Jesus himself on the matter were were not something that we're supporting the argument, for the existence of hell, we discovered that the Bible doesn't talk about hell in the same way that pastors do. For instance, the fire and brimstone sermons that describe sinners who will spend eternity in the lake of fire forever. That's eternity.
That rhetoric was backed down upon saying that there's no biblical basis for this. Although it might be justified because the pastors are preaching from the Bible, and they're giving a a good sermon that will get people into the church and bring them to heaven. So the topic of afterlife was especially difficult to get through.
[00:34:53] Unknown:
Yeah. They they they there's a recognition, and they paid lip service to the fact that most iterations are of hell that are talked about, in today's church are primarily based on, like, Dante's Inferno. And they paid lip service to it, but I'm the only one that read the book.
[00:35:13] allen marcus:
Milton's Paradise Lost as well. Yep. In Paradise Lost. So then if you were to bring up the alphabet of Ben Sirah and describe a literature tradition of these extra biblical texts that fill in character gaps that exist in the Bible, then you say, well, the the Bible would also be part of that literature. So in understanding hell, we have to understand all of the literature that's discussed it that have given us our concepts of this idea of an afterlife where it seems to be the equal and opposite reaction to heaven. So where in heaven is paradise and beautiful, hell is the opposite of that. It's torment. It's suffering. It's a lake of fire.
It's a a hangnail. It's it's all of the it's stepping on a Lego at night trying to get to a refrigerator situate. It's all the things that you don't like in this life will be tormenting you forever in hell. That's the literature.
[00:36:19] Unknown:
Well, in in Dante's Inferno, whatever sins that you commit, basically, there's, like so it's not just one hell. There's actually two hells. One of them, there's doesn't seem to be any, way out of or retribution for. The other one, it it does. So the one, it's for people that well, but some of the people also aren't bad in it either. Like, the first level of that hell is, what they call virtuous pagans. So people that didn't do were good people and didn't do anything bad, but didn't get on their knees and and knob Jesus off or whatever, however that works. And so they they're virtual.
[00:37:05] allen marcus:
So they follow Christian virtues.
[00:37:07] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, well, it's a it's a weird mix of myth in there because also so from what I can tell, like, if you ever look at the the descriptions of Atlantis where it's concentric rings of land and then water, this was concentric rings of land and then fire, and then the center is ice. That was interesting all that's interesting also. But that the actual center hell is ice instead of fire. So heaven being a moderate
[00:37:41] allen marcus:
climate Yeah. Heaven's moderate. Quite a tropical island because moisture would be held for some people. So heaven is like a Midwestern day with a seaside a lake sorry. Lakeside breeze. 70 degrees, you can wear a thin jacket and be comfortable all all eternity.
[00:37:59] Unknown:
One of my favorite parts about that hell, the Catholic pope, there's a whole line of popes, and the one that you see is always the most recent pope. So and then then and then he rotates down to the next pope down. And so every Catholic pope goes to hell in that book. So, obviously, he wasn't a fucking Catholic. Right? And then, like, a lot of, Greek, a lot of your Greek philosophers are in there. That's they're all mentioned in that. So there's a lot of Greek stuff, including Greek kings, are in there. So it's a it's a real and as far as I can tell, the the main hell where people go that did shit that they can't undo, that hell is a mirror of Atlantis.
And so then the hell the mountain that's before Atlantis, that basically in this translates. So then the second hell is a mountain. And in that mountain, there's apparently softer sins that you can come to regret or repent from or whatever, and then angels or or whatever wipe off the there's letters on your head, and those letters represent the things that you did that are you shouldn't have done. And when you repent from them not them enough, it wipes that letter off. And and, apparently, even in that hell, they believe that the prayers of the living somehow add more weight to their atonement. So, like, they're as they're going through the mountain the whole time, everybody's begging them to pray for them.
[00:40:04] allen marcus:
We didn't get into heaven at all. So the idea that, you know, when someone dies too young, they go to heaven, and they get a halo. They get a golden Cheerio above their head and some angel wings, anthropomorphic white dove wings behind them, pure white feathers, that type of thing. We didn't get into the ridiculous
[00:40:26] Unknown:
Like, harps and wings. I would like to have wings. That'd be pretty cool. Mhmm. And harps are cool, but, you know, I like my cocking balls. The meat and potatoes, that's a bad trait
[00:40:37] allen marcus:
bad trait. The androgynous angel thing is a topic we'll have to bring up if we get into a a what is the actual heaven in terms of bible, describing it? The the biblical the holy bible, like canon, not those extra biblical things, not the book of That is not the assignment, Marcus.
[00:40:54] Unknown:
I am not a 100% familiar with it. You might be the one that's gonna have to answer your own fucking question. Steve is raised in the Christian church. My sole basis of understanding for this, though, comes from the 1995
[00:41:07] Unknown:
cinematic classic Dogma, where Alan Rickman pulls his pants down and says, almost anatomically correct as a Kindle. That's so that's what I assume all angels look like are, in fact, just Alan Rickman. Not even that they have any other body type or face or even voice. It's all just solely Alan Rickman.
[00:41:30] allen marcus:
Now now, Steve, you're using the Rob Noire argument where it's a Hollywood movie. Have you seen this movie? Have you seen this movie? I'm going to make a movie analogy that everyone will understand like a cool youth pastor. Will you take the red pill tonight, or will you take the blue pill tonight? No purple pill options.
[00:41:51] Unknown:
If my blue pastor ever addressed me is Neo, I would well, I would probably do what I did when I was in youth group, lead, go smoke a joint, and then finger bang the pastor's daughter. But yeah. But yeah. Showing I was not an exemplary young, young servant of Christ. I was not. I was in the sound booths,
[00:42:15] allen marcus:
for youth group. It was a nice place in the back, and I was the one queuing up the video clips and hitting play on them. And if it was, like, a ten minute thing, we turn the lights out, we sit and watch a movie. That was a a nice relaxing thing where people could just whisper to each other. And feel on a titty. Yeah. Yeah. Like, Jesus intended. And I think that should be promoted. I think it's great for for young men on a titty? Young women to to to to have that carnal knowledge at an early age because the the not making those developmental milestones leads to someone like Rob.
[00:42:56] Unknown:
Michael w Smith makes music for people who want to touch a side boob during worship. If Marte had gone to youth group as a young man, he wouldn't have to go to a youth group as an older man. Yeah. Well and it is questionable why he is attending youth group services at his advanced stage. But, you know, we're not here to judge. We're not. We're not.
[00:43:19] allen marcus:
So we we we can judge a little bit. I think that's I think we can Let me help you with your squats. Here's some baby oil. Where does the baby oil go? How do I apply for the position of baby oil administrator?
[00:43:36] Unknown:
Oil applyer. Can I apply for the position of baby oil applyer? Do you have It's like the dumb and dumber scene only it's flexing
[00:43:44] Unknown:
in the bus door and Mark is standing there with baby oil. Yeah. It may.
[00:43:50] Unknown:
See, if we weren't on YouTube, I could pull up the South Park, boy band. I'm gonna finger bang my way into your heart video, but we're on YouTube. Well, let's see. We can't do that. We can't have any fucking fun. I had another song. You kept calling Marche Martha, so I wanted to pull up the Mojo Nixon and Skid Roper classic stuff in Martha's muffin, but I can't because YouTube. We're handicapped here. We're restricted.
[00:44:20] Unknown:
Small
[00:44:22] allen marcus:
hats. It's okay to have a a boundary, a a a box, a a boundary to to know where the the lines are, not to cross them.
[00:44:33] Unknown:
Yeah. There's no line with Mojo Nixon. Mojo Nixon proved that.
[00:44:40] allen marcus:
Mister Mojo Risen?
[00:44:43] Unknown:
This was, in fact, mister Mojo Nixon, who also wrote the classic tie my pecker to a tree.
[00:44:50] allen marcus:
Yeah.
[00:44:51] Unknown:
That did need a song. Tie my pecker to a tree. To a tree. Tie my pecker to a tree. Yes. That's correct. Yeah. I could I I'd do well. I don't I don't know the chords, but probably
[00:45:07] allen marcus:
Does he clarify the best tree to tie a a pecker to? Maybe, like, one of those maple trees. Tap that maple tree, get some syrup. I don't think it's discussed
[00:45:18] Unknown:
specifically in the song, but I would think a a skinned birch would be probably your easiest route there.
[00:45:30] allen marcus:
That
[00:45:31] Unknown:
sounds indigenous. You don't wanna tie your pecker to a redwood. First of all, most of us can't. I mean, you know, there there are plenty of us that are blessed, but but even being blessed, getting around a redwood, that's that's a well, that's a very painful stretch.
[00:45:48] Unknown:
Yeah. And that shit's rough. Yeah. Yeah. Cory Coryolus.
[00:45:54] Unknown:
Very unforgiving bark.
[00:45:58] Unknown:
Yeah. A female tree preferably.
[00:46:03] allen marcus:
Wow. We're talking about hell tonight, and hell was five hours of Rob last night for me. I don't know how you guys did it.
[00:46:13] Unknown:
Chad, I called out early so I could get other work done and go to sleep. That was how I did it. I was gonna get mean. There was get there was a a threshold that I had reached, like, an hour and a half into it, and I was like, you know what, dude? You could maybe take the high road. You maybe could. Had Bobby Kelly in in my head. You know what, Ted? Ted? I I had yeah. They had that going on. Yeah. That maybe just maybe don't. Maybe don't. I remind other people to maybe don't all the time. I should take my own advice. I should.
[00:46:48] allen marcus:
Maybe don't. The faster Rob was speaking, the higher pitch his voice was coming out, and it was getting into that sort of, Iago, the parrot. It was a little bit of a voice actor sort of for a a Disney movie, like a like a Disney villain sound. Like a chunky Gilbert Godfried is what you're saying. Like, Gilbert
[00:47:10] Unknown:
Godfried
[00:47:12] allen marcus:
with Burger King chicken two chicken nuggets in his cheeks.
[00:47:18] Unknown:
In case he got hungry, he could swallow them. Just stores it up for later like a freaking chipmunk in the winter? Yes.
[00:47:27] allen marcus:
Yeah. He needed his food pre chewed and ready to swallow, but he never stopped talking. And he was doing the inward breathing technique where he could filibuster over his Benadryl partner. There was no tag team going on. At some point, Marty just put his hat down over his eyes and took a nap. Yeah. And, yes, handicap by choice. I have found over the years that nobody actually likes
[00:47:57] Unknown:
it when I fucking throw the gloves off onto the ice and then grab somebody by the jersey and actually pummel them. It it it it comes across as played hockey.
[00:48:10] Unknown:
They never played hockey. Okay. It comes across as bullying is what They don't they don't even know what pulling your shirt over your head means.
[00:48:18] Unknown:
Yeah. The best knot to use when one ties his pecker to a tree, I would imagine a slipknot.
[00:48:24] allen marcus:
A slipknot?
[00:48:26] Unknown:
Yeah. I would. Yeah. Yeah. You you go full bowling, it's gonna be uncomfortable on the pullout.
[00:48:34] allen marcus:
Rug burns.
[00:48:43] Unknown:
Well thought out.
[00:48:44] Unknown:
Well thought out.
[00:48:47] Unknown:
We're a thing you might have really Hey. Tunnel metal tunnel tunnel metal put it's a bonsai for me. That was smart.
[00:48:53] Unknown:
There you go. Lever, sir. There you go. Lever, sir. Hell, yeah. I can wrap it around the tree.
[00:48:58] Unknown:
Hell, yeah, baby girl. I was gonna be on
[00:49:01] allen marcus:
the pony. If you guys are still in contact with Rob, get Christy to send him some of that burn cream because he's gonna need a five
[00:49:10] Unknown:
gallon bucket of burn cream. Should do that. You guys should. You should go on his YouTube and find, like, where the PO box is or anything like that. And just, yeah, just send him a small jar of, like, a moon cell burn balm, something like that. Here you go. Burn banish. We apologize. We didn't mean to to make it that bad.
[00:49:30] allen marcus:
It didn't start out that bad. So for our listeners who have not experienced the debate yet, we'll put the time stamps in so you can get in, hear the four participants' opening lines, and then decide how much more you think you can handle because the opening lines were the beginning and the end of the debate. Yeah. It was it. It was all laid out there. The middle section of the debate was inconsequential. It it didn't go anywhere. It was not advanced. It was Ben Carson. His face on George Floyd's body. Now continue the argument, boys. What if it was presidential candidate surgeon of the brain, Ben Carson?
No description of Ben Carson. I even told him
[00:50:30] Unknown:
right up front. Like, oh, okay. Well, if my aunt had nuts, she'd be my uncle. What the fuck are we actually talking about here? Like, this is dumb, dude. Why would you say you know? Oh, this is a super smart point that I came up. No. It's not. Everybody here rejects that premise. Move on. I'm not gonna move on. No.
[00:50:49] allen marcus:
This is my point, and it's all I've got.
[00:50:54] Unknown:
Do you suck. Move. Go, dude. Go. Kick rocks. Let your little boy go. Machine gunning.
[00:51:03] allen marcus:
Rob ran out of ammunition.
[00:51:05] Unknown:
Right. And and you're fighting when you stand. No. None of us actually did that. Shut the fuck up. Well, you said no. We didn't. You're taking that. You're you're just making shit up, dude. Just stop making shit up.
[00:51:17] allen marcus:
No territory was conceded. You guys stayed in the trenches, played fair, bought fairly,
[00:51:26] Unknown:
maintained Oh, not that. By title, man. Fighting words title, man.
[00:51:30] Unknown:
Right? Hockey's a girl's game?
[00:51:33] Unknown:
Okay. And that's fighting words.
[00:51:35] Unknown:
Okay. No. No. No. Okay. Fuck it.
[00:51:41] Unknown:
And I do mean hockey style.
[00:51:43] Unknown:
Yeah.
[00:51:45] Unknown:
Yeah. That that smash into you doing 45 miles an hour on the ice and smack you into the ice and pull your shirt up over your head and use you as a fucking speed bag.
[00:51:55] Unknown:
Have you have you ever actually fought somebody where you got to, like, grab a fucking shirt and yank it over their head and just because I have. It's, like, in real life, not even on the ice, not even you know? Okay. Maybe I'm gonna get a fucking, you know, five minute major for this. Whatever. But, like, in real dude, people are so confused when you're like, Oh, the fuck? Did you really do that? Yes. I really did that. Yes. Do what did you think I was gonna fight fair? That dude's way fucking bigger than me.
[00:52:30] allen marcus:
When the temperature is cold and people are prepared for it, anything could happen. There were stories of my fourth grade after school, lots of hills. We talked with Danny Katz earlier about some of the experiences and the terms of the games that we played. What did we refer to the game as? Smear what rhymes with smear?
[00:52:54] Unknown:
This type of thing.
[00:52:56] allen marcus:
There were handfuls of snow packed down people's pants.
[00:53:03] Unknown:
You were in snow pants. We call that. Great. We're we're gonna chill you out,
[00:53:10] allen marcus:
forcing people, their face in the snow, and then you have people around you burying you in a snow pile, all of these things and more in Minnesota. Yes. All the way past March. Sometimes even in the June, we still had snow, and we still had snowball fights.
[00:53:28] Unknown:
Yeah. We're with you, favor ling Lignarius?
[00:53:32] allen marcus:
Lignarius. Lignarius. It's a.
[00:53:37] Unknown:
We're with you. If, honestly, if it wasn't for the ortho bros, I'd have no idea who Destiny is either. I don't know. I admitted that last night, though. I said, I'm not a political guy. That one's Steve. You know, I Marty, you know, offered the debate. We took it. It sounds like a stripper name. Yeah. We took the debate. I'm aware of who he is and and, some of the things shady things he's done in his positions. Obviously, most people, if you pay any attention to mainstream, those are aware of George Floyd and the repercussions of that. So I said, yep. You know, if they would've asked me if I could take the other side, I would've said no.
But I I wouldn't really know who he was either if I wasn't if the ortho bros weren't so fixated on him, which perfectly makes Steve's point that he brought up in the argument. Like, you guys are half of his advertising.
[00:54:36] allen marcus:
Yes. So how many of the viewers of the Destiny tragic saga or people that don't care but tune in to see if there's any interesting drama happening?
[00:54:47] Unknown:
100%. That dude that dude is crazy with the drama, and a 100%, they are tuning in to check said drama out. Get the fuck off my fucking pussy.
[00:55:00] allen marcus:
That's the reason for the danger hair. A degenerate left dirtbag. They call themselves the dirtbag left. They want to be the most punk rock people they can be. But at some point, when does it become really embarrassing for men to dye their hair and to exclaim their bisexuality to the world and act like a teenager? Like, what are you rebelling against at this point?
[00:55:32] Unknown:
At this point, it's just that it's that's the cool kid crowd in his mind. And that is the crowd like, he couldn't get a good conservative woman. He couldn't get a good conservative woman, and he wants to have degenerate, you know, sexual activities with whoever. And that's what so this is the crowd that he's in. You know? Dress for the dress for work, I guess. Right?
[00:56:01] allen marcus:
Yeah. And the the context of getting manic, panic, hair dye from Hot Topic has changed in twenty years. The the subcultures, the counterculture, mall goths made fun of in South Park, emos, and now what is left of that? You know, everybody wears black, dyes their hair a different unnatural color, wears nail polish. Right? So now we have Taylor Swift, the goofy white girl who's, like, conservative princess. She's releasing a new album. Terrible reviews, by the way. Cardi b. Can't beat Cardi b. Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift isn't even trying.
[00:56:48] Unknown:
Well, she she doesn't have as nearly as wet of a pussy, I guess.
[00:56:54] allen marcus:
Or as thick of thighs. That is visibly true. So to be a 35 year old princess I could not have told you that. Well, Ben Shapiro broke it down for me the other day explaining who Taylor Swift is and why he's really interested.
[00:57:13] Unknown:
Are a myth, though.
[00:57:15] allen marcus:
Oh, because his sister explained it to him. So, Ben, my breasts are large. Please stop looking at them like that. Also, this is my body. Respect me. I'm I'm your sister. This is how my anatomy works, just in case you need to know. Ben Shapiro. And maybe Mikaela Peterson, Jordan Peterson's daughter, probably explained. Yeah. There's things like sandpaper.
[00:57:46] Unknown:
It's like petting a shark.
[00:57:48] allen marcus:
Yeah. Okay. Mhmm.
[00:57:52] Unknown:
Did Ben debate? I don't think so. That was brought up a few times. Are you talking about me or Ben Ben? Because he was just talking about,
[00:58:03] allen marcus:
Ben Shapiro or and and Balderstone?
[00:58:08] Unknown:
I did not, and I don't think Shapiro did, but I could very well be wrong.
[00:58:13] allen marcus:
They might have shown up on Pierce Morgan at the same time, but, again, we don't know. We haven't kept up on all these details. We don't have these connection tree diagrams printed on our wall to figure out who is talking to whom and who's beefing with who and what's going on on the online debate space.
[00:58:35] Unknown:
Well, I we're we're I'm at the end of the year, so it's my harvest time for all my vegetables and my medical grow and the my dad's here with a backhoe and getting, stuff. No. Andrew Wilson agreed to debate me, and then, I sent reminders, and he never set a date, never set a date. And then Steve talks shit, and then he's like, oh, you're talking shit. I won't debate you now. You ain't debated us in the last year and a half, motherfucker.
[00:59:06] allen marcus:
So Jay Dyer had complained Jay Dyer complained that Steve stepping in to give credit to an artist
[00:59:17] Unknown:
Not not an artist. No. No. No. Let's let let's set the whole Ian Davis Yeah. Is a published author and award winning researcher and incomparable UK, like, figurehead in terms of of, you know, discussing, the technocracy and globalism and world banking and stuff like that. And so Jay Dyer knows who Ian Davis is. Jay Dyer is a thief, and he just that's what he's done his entire career is steal, make people think it was his idea because he'll block or get rid of anyone who's like, hey. You didn't come up with that. Right. Here's the scoop for that. You know, that's that's his whole MO. Jay Dyer is enough creativity to steal and then rip off a bunch of other people's ideas and all that kind of, but he has none of his own creativity.
And so he put out an infographic that Ian Davis made explaining the public private partnership. And I same infographic in the book. Yeah. Which it yeah. It's been published for years. It, appears in a printed book. It also appeared online in a number of different publications that Ian made and other people who cited
[01:00:48] allen marcus:
it and credited Ian for it. So this is not an Internet graphic. It's not a meme. It's not something that has been shared around without you know, people made changes to it. No. This was the original diagram unshamed. Paste. Yeah. Copy paste. And you said, wow. I recognize that. This is from this source. Yeah. There you go.
[01:01:11] Unknown:
Hey. Give him a shout.
[01:01:13] allen marcus:
So then what happened in the direct messages privately?
[01:01:16] Unknown:
He streamed at me. How dare you? Some DMs. How dare you? How what? For a meme. You know it's not a meme. Why are you lying to me? Fuck you. You're so rude. Worse.
[01:01:32] Unknown:
It It it wasn't on air, so we didn't see the announcement. But Lance is our newest member. Thank you very much, Lance. Lance.
[01:01:42] allen marcus:
Hooray. Hooray. Hooray.
[01:01:47] Unknown:
Let's see. Do I have anything for this?
[01:01:51] Unknown:
Everybody, please let us know what you think of the the emojis and if you want us to change stuff around, and we're gonna get more stuff on there that's just for you guys. Yeah. These ugly guys again. How goes it nights of the storm?
[01:02:08] Unknown:
It's funny that Jason would would say that. I was watching, the Legion of Skanks podcast as as I am want to do, and they had Jason Ellis on the show. Not a huge fan of Jason Ellis necessarily, but I'm looking at him. And I'm like, you know, if we on his own mode. If we shaved Jason Barker from nights of the storm, if we shaved him and gave him some nonmilitary tattoos, damned if he wouldn't look just like Jason Ellis. And you're gonna call us ugly, my guy? You're gonna call us ugly? He did say he would win the ugly. Competition.
[01:03:01] Unknown:
He said he would win it.
[01:03:06] Unknown:
I sat next to you on a panel. I know what you look like.
[01:03:11] allen marcus:
Well, there is that issue of open panelists who never turn on their camera, but then they talk a lot. And then there's another category
[01:03:23] Unknown:
to not be on to not have the camera on. Like, I I understand. This is this is the draw right here. It's it's this is my bread and butter.
[01:03:32] allen marcus:
Well, there's another category I need to call out here. The category of men who join the open panel and then say nothing at all with their camera on. They'll hold up objects sometimes. So this is what happened at the end of the Sarah raging tomatoes stream on Monday night, the George Floyd destiny disaster thing. And all the panelists had dropped out. The one that remained, Benjamin Balderson. Open panel, other people came up. No questions addressed to Benjamin Balderson. No comments addressed to Benjamin Balderson. Rob, the punching bag with holes in him, continue to get poked and prodded, and Benjamin sits there smiling, basking in his victory.
[01:04:25] Unknown:
It it it seems as though Rob actually hates destiny. He might actually believe that that Destiny is worse a worse net net negative for society.
[01:04:40] Unknown:
I know it's real because my Discord server tells me.
[01:04:45] allen marcus:
His Reddit experience, his lived Reddit experience proved to him. Actually
[01:04:56] Unknown:
I don't know if anybody in my house has even ever been on Reddit. And, honestly, I didn't know what it was until Marcus would talk about it. And then as per usual, I wonder if Marcus is making things up. No. Reddit, reddit,.com.
[01:05:13] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[01:05:14] allen marcus:
It's basically the front page of the Internet at this point. And when what they said? You search for something, the top searches come from Reddit. They've all been spider crawled and indexed and figured out. So with our boy, or, mister mystery over there who spoke so quickly, it sounded like he was going to speak in tongues at some point, an auctioneer with no high value mails in sight to bid on him.
[01:05:45] Unknown:
Yeah. With, with Marcus here, our boy band name is Earth, Wind, and Friar.
[01:05:51] Unknown:
Nice. Well
[01:05:53] Unknown:
done. I like that. I'll write that down.
[01:05:58] allen marcus:
Uh-huh. Herb's wind. Well
[01:06:03] Unknown:
done. Again, I'm here all week. Type your waitress. You know, harpsichord
[01:06:07] allen marcus:
is gonna sound great. It will be chamber music. Kings of our own castings. Remember
[01:06:21] Unknown:
the September 21. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot like that.
[01:06:31] allen marcus:
I like that. I like that.
[01:06:35] Unknown:
How do you your gory and chant? Yeah.
[01:06:38] allen marcus:
I I don't know. Well, you stand in a very open space. You wear nothing except a burlock burlap sack, and then you moan. Got a hand Not in a sexual way. Music on this shit. Not in a pleasurable way. You just moan in a godly way.
[01:07:00] Unknown:
Mhmm. We would
[01:07:04] Unknown:
like 2 Bitcoin for our offering of prime flesh, Marcus.
[01:07:21] allen marcus:
This is happening. We are at our own Renaissance Festival. This is how we celebrate a debate victory. If they thought you were a Viking, they didn't know what eras you are from.
[01:07:47] Unknown:
Well, you know, recently that TV show came out, so then, you know, a 100 people jumped on the I'm a Viking bandwagon. Same people that jumped on the they also own, Sons of Anarchy vest, and, I I I I've run out of TV show rep. The trends. They they they know trends. At Yellowstone, they bought a Yellowstone jacket, And, you know, these and I was fully into the Germanic heathenism long before Vikings came out. It has nothing to do with it. It was a it was a entertaining show. It was. That was a neat show. Was it anything historical or something you should add if you're gonna be, actually into the culture of that or into the culture of Germanic heathenism? No.
I actually got this caused a big fight with Beth because then she quick tried to Google up an answer, and I knew what answer was coming to because there's a time period in, Northern Europe where, basically, three kings held Northern Europe except for Iceland. And so Google tried saying that's when Christianity started taking over. And, no, that's when it finished taking over. Yeah. It it it had taken over long. It had fucking infiltrated fully long before that before the Viking period even started. So the the Viking period, it wasn't a bunch of oldness going to fight a bunch of Christians.
It was, one tribe of people went and attacked. And also the the the Romans had done some real nasty things to the, Germanics, to the Danes, things like that. So they went and attacked, and then they found out that it was pretty fucking easy to attack these people. So they went and started so then a bunch of people jumped in and started taking their stuff. Just like any, like, any of these big riots on TV that are for political reasons, honestly, most people they're rioting aren't there for any political reasons. They're there to riot. They don't want they don't really give a shit about any of the political stuff.
[01:10:13] allen marcus:
Just a quick question
[01:10:15] Unknown:
for Same thing with, like, he brought up Braveheart, and it confused me for a minute because I'm like, Braveheart, apparently, Mel Gibson hated Robert the Bruce because, basically, everything Robert the Bruce did, he kind of made that into William Wallace doing and made Robert the Bruce out to be the shit heel. And Robert the Bruce, them two didn't have anything to do with each other. And then when William Wallace was killed, at a battle he wasn't at, he didn't go betray him and go on the king's side and all that, and then dismembered him and sent his pieces about, the Scottish people decided to rebel, and Robert the Bruce joined on that rebellion. And then they made the, the the declaration of a brothe and a 100, and this is where, like, there's awesome fucking Irish or Scottish folk songs and shit about it, where it's, like, a 100 of the a 100 of the Scotts, and then it's as long as there's 100.
You know? And it talks about as long as there's 100 Scotsmen, it doesn't matter what the king of England has to say. This country is alive, and we will fight. And they they went against the king. They took a piece of their kilt with their their, tartar with their, colors, and they tied it to the bottom of this declaration and sent it to the king and said, we will fight till there isn't a 100 of us left to stand, motherfucker. You're not having our land. What's under a Scotsman's
[01:11:55] allen marcus:
kilt? A wing? Lipstick. A wing.
[01:11:59] Unknown:
And some lipstick.
[01:12:00] allen marcus:
And, Benjamin, you talked to v y b e about b I b l e. But have you even been to hell?
[01:12:12] Unknown:
I I I I was, you know, married to this woman for a little while. I did divorce her and got crawled my way out, but, yes. Yes, I I have been to hell. You've been
[01:12:26] allen marcus:
through hell, but have you been to hell?
[01:12:31] Unknown:
Yeah. I left a receipt too.
[01:12:38] allen marcus:
That's important.
[01:12:40] Unknown:
I mean, the way that I understood it, Hel was, a Norse goddess. Yeah. Yeah. And that's who you went and saw when you died, which is where the saying go to hell came from. And if she appeared as a crone, then you would pass on into a a beneficial thank you, babe. Yeah. A beneficial afterlife. And if she appeared as, like, a beautiful young maiden, then you were condemned to a a much worse afterlife.
[01:13:18] allen marcus:
She's a daughter of someone?
[01:13:20] Unknown:
Or was she a daughter of Well, she was two faced bitch, apparently.
[01:13:24] allen marcus:
Mhmm. Well, she was someone's daughter.
[01:13:28] Unknown:
Where where where that really comes in? And, Steve's not necessarily wrong. That isn't one of the stories. But the the there's also ones where it may basically makes it I knew, like, a Persephone type story where she's she's not just death. She's also life. So she's this young beauty and this dead decaying thing. And so what that is is like a seed going into the ground and going through the decay of the old like, an old plant, it decays, the seed goes into the ground, and from there, up springs new young life. And so the because, there's a fairly strong, illusions to, reincarnation and even cosmology.
So you so hell is like a place you go to go restart and go back onto the earth. Well, let's not tell Beth that. She's not gonna like that answer one bit. Yeah. No. She she, she has her thing from when she was a little kid that she holds in her heart. And Sure. If you challenge it, you are gonna get, she she was shook. She was shook, and it wouldn't quit poking at me. And it was like even though she was shook, so that's a bad reaction. If you're shook, you should stop poking.
[01:14:56] allen marcus:
It was like a rash or an allergic reaction.
[01:14:59] Unknown:
I could have pointed out to you in in, like, the March fucking AD where Christianity already already had established in Germania, and there was all kinds of activity with it. So by July, it was the majority of it. By September, all the kings were Christian except for Iceland.
[01:15:21] allen marcus:
Like, so
[01:15:23] Unknown:
The Christian empire. This this is what happens when you use AI. And I get that, you know, if I don't know something about his subject, I'll just quick look at the AI thing too. But then it's not good. It's not gonna hold in a debate argument, not from somebody who knows his history.
[01:15:39] Unknown:
It's not just history. It's context of literature. I mean,
[01:15:42] Unknown:
as a heathen and somebody that grew up in a Christian society
[01:15:46] allen marcus:
Mhmm.
[01:15:47] Unknown:
I also went through the period where more of my thoughts were anti Christian as opposed to as opposed to trying to make a life around this other thing that I want that's not Christian. Well, I don't wanna be an anti Christian. I wanna be a a Germanic heathen and live that life. So some things I have matched theirs. But, we all go through that anti Christian phase. So you find out the things like like the exodus is not match any history anywhere. It's only in the bible. And these people who are known fantastical liars and known to be the person that the only only a small hack can have his hand in your pocket and call you a thief. They're known to do the nastiest shit and then say you're the one doing it.
Well, the biblical history of them claiming that somebody made them slaves, but then they defeated them and took all their stuff and their god won. That sounds like expansion to me after it happens two or three times. It's no different than the the small hats now with Israel. They're like, we're defending ourselves. Then how come Israel's, like, 10 times 50 times bigger than it was when in 1947?
[01:17:11] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[01:17:12] Unknown:
You can't keep getting bigger and saying that's defense.
[01:17:16] allen marcus:
More buffer zones around it. I I don't know how that works either. And Beth, again, Vibe did a bible study. The topic was the literary and reference to the
[01:17:29] Unknown:
You're not Jewish, but that's who invented hell in the bite, and and that's who invented the old testament where it talks about hell.
[01:17:37] allen marcus:
Sure. So there's references to Tartarus, Sheol, and they use their concordance and their computer software to find references that were translated to, you know, the Greek word Hades, that sort of thing. Tartarus, Gehenna, Sheol, S H E 0 L, Lake Of Fire. All of these concepts were sort of mentioned, and there's some translations, but, really, it was the literary tradition that expanded upon the underworld concept. Yeah. So in comparative religions and and other discussions we've had on, you know, weaving spires and other sort of moral cult panels, concept of the underworld meaning where the sun goes, the moon goes, the stars, they go under the earth. Visually, they go under, and then they return again.
So there's that concept. But then to apply that concept to every other thing, it's not an analog. It's not a one to one. It might be used for stochastic biblical terrorism if you want to take your Bible and hit people over the head with it and explain to them that, you know, separation from God will send you to hell. And you don't wanna be separated from God because that's the worst thing that could happen because you'd be a godless heathen, paganist, Odin. Like, that those are all the slurs and the pejoratives in their language.
So when we say someone is an ortho bro and they take that as a pejorative, then it's just dishing out what they've dished back to you. It's just you called us this word, and we're calling you an ortho bro, and that's pejorative, and they didn't like that.
[01:19:21] Unknown:
Which is hilarious.
[01:19:23] Unknown:
It really is. And, dude, I mean, in in my opening statement of that debate last night, I told them that their entire argument was gonna be a leftist
[01:19:35] allen marcus:
stochastic terrorism argue argument. What does that mean?
[01:19:40] Unknown:
Well, and I defined it in the opening. You know? And then they spent the entire night making an argument from that place.
[01:19:55] Unknown:
That was their whole point is that Hold on. Hold on. That was one of two arguments. The other argument was trying to redefine something to pigeonhole it so it only applied to to their guy, which is a leftist tactic.
[01:20:09] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[01:20:11] Unknown:
Like redefining racism so it only applies to white people. Like, of course, we're the only racist people. Your new definition makes it so we're the only ones that could possibly be.
[01:20:23] allen marcus:
What about anti anti semitism? Mhmm. As Apple is removing the juice box emoji because it's harmful to to use emojis as placeholders for words. Juice box emoji is hate speech. It's being removed in future updates. So if you have grape emojis, put them in chat. If you have juice box emojis, use them while you still got them. There were also, pew pews as emojis. Those have shifted into squirt guns, water pistols, and the emoji language. We we're talking back and forth in emoji language. Symbolic references.
[01:21:10] Unknown:
Words have meaning An AI emoji. Out. So I had to take it out. No. AI figures that out even faster.
[01:21:18] allen marcus:
AI figures out the codes even faster because there's fewer words. If you are Rob Moore and you speak an entire paragraph with one single breath followed up by another paragraph, followed up by a third paragraph. Rob gave so many essays when he was given a chance in an opening and said absolutely nothing, did not expand upon his thesis, his hypothesis, and then use words to then explain why he said words before, digging himself into further and further holes, rabbit holes, whatever he wanted to call them. And then the sarcastic terrorism argument was resurfaced because he had tilled the soil over and over again. So when sarcastic terrorism was brought up again, where did it go?
[01:22:14] Unknown:
Nowhere.
[01:22:17] allen marcus:
Nowhere. Buried it again. Not understanding what stochastic terrorism is, talking around it, evading it, and not addressing it directly is hard very, very hard to listen to as a as an audience member. It's like, there it is. Stochastic terrorism. Your response, Marty seems to be asleep.
[01:22:45] Unknown:
Rob, you were very much awake. You were the most awake person who's ever been awake. One of you seems like you've taken heroin and the other one, like, you've snorted all the cocaine.
[01:22:55] allen marcus:
Rob was so woke. How woke was he?
[01:23:06] Unknown:
Wait. Hang on. I will we get dinged for this? Probably.
[01:23:12] allen marcus:
Who knows? It's worth a ding.
[01:23:16] Unknown:
This is this is Rob. This was his entire debate performance. It's the culmination of everything that he brought to the table as seen in a 1991
[01:23:33] Unknown:
Micro Machines commercial. The Micro Machine Man here presenting the genuine original, costly flexible most midget finish left of the wall. Oh, Micro Machines. Machine in for a landing. Phew. This place has it all. That was his entire debate performance.
[01:24:01] allen marcus:
He took so long on the onboarding process to put his plane into the air that by the time he landed it, he had never left the tarmac in the first place to travel anywhere. He stayed within his safe place and ensured Marty would not have to fly the friendly skies. They stayed in the terminal. They never boarded the plane to go anywhere. Oh, fucking a little bit. Stick to landing if you don't fly anywhere. You didn't go anywhere.
[01:24:38] Unknown:
Like, my dude, how are you gonna sit here and tell everybody that destiny is bad when you adopted all of his tactics and his cadence? What what what are you even doing, dude?
[01:24:58] allen marcus:
Yes. Because we've talked about Destiny having a loose jaw, going side to side, the tongue moved around, going over the t, like, lots of slurping sounds. It was very disgusting. And this is what we listened to
[01:25:14] Unknown:
for five hours. That's gotta be stronger than in than, I know a lot of people say he's on Adderall, but fuck. That's a meth twitch. Like like, I've never seen, like, Adderall. Nobody gets that kind of a twitch from Adderall.
[01:25:31] Unknown:
If you're boofing it, maybe.
[01:25:34] Unknown:
Yeah. Buffing Adderall. He might be. He might be.
[01:25:40] allen marcus:
I don't think Rob went to sleep. I I think Rob is still awake from the debate. I don't think he's rested yet. Anyone check-in on him on the morning? No. Mart Marte's hibernating. He's tucked in. He's he's sleeping, getting some rest in. Letting those muscles relax. Deep muscle relaxation.
[01:26:01] Unknown:
I don't think I don't think Beth probably been asleep either.
[01:26:04] allen marcus:
Beth has read her Bible backwards and forwards and upside down and used all the gematria. She's used all the Bible codes. She's researched to find out
[01:26:16] Unknown:
exactly what does have that, does have that recorded, so we will put that out.
[01:26:22] allen marcus:
The v y b e b I b l e s t u d y?
[01:26:27] Unknown:
Yep. Yeah. The vybe bible study recorded if you didn't catch it on vybe's channel. He doesn't have StreamYard, so I didn't know how to restream it. But, Mark is gonna put it back up. It it takes by half an hour and then it and then, or so, and then it gets spicy. That's when I get spicy with it.
[01:26:50] Unknown:
Speaking of spicy, tonight's show is brought to you by Chile Habanero sauce from El Yucatan. El Yucateco. El Yucateco. He's right. For that extra little bite. Tapatio's. This is not a tapatio, my my boy. No, man. Mhmm. Yeah. You're not tapatio. It's actually this the big Bullshit. You should travel with this. You should have it on you wherever you go. It is phenomenal. And what It is. I I order it by the six pack now.
[01:27:24] Unknown:
One of the things that, kept it spicy that Christians pretend like they don't ever understand is similar to the way the leftist will casually talk down to conservatives. Christians like to do that to anybody that's not a Christian. Yeah. And and so they casually, like, oh, Odin's a fallen angel and is gonna burn forever in the lake of fire as am I. But I'm not saying anything bad. Yeah. You know? Like, you're saying that I'm on the evil side, that I'm bad, that I'm gonna suffer eternal fire and Oh, the truth. You're not saying anything bad. You know? Capital t. Something that would be the truth. To fuck yourself for. The capital t truth is only offensive to those who don't accept the the truth.
[01:28:09] Unknown:
Old El Paso is made in New York City.
[01:28:15] allen marcus:
I wanna play with micro machines
[01:28:17] Unknown:
for some reason. I don't know what happened. They just Right.
[01:28:24] allen marcus:
Just those those small little toys, Boys and their toys. Shout out to K O'Dave who's got some big action figures. He'd be he'd be he'd be a fun guy to I don't I don't know, to go over to his house after school.
[01:28:41] Unknown:
Yeah. It's taking candy from babies. That's why, they had a hard time with us last night. That's what you're you're used to debating.
[01:28:48] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. The the you could tell that they just weren't prepared at all for people who didn't have the exact same, but ideologically opposite surface level, fucking nonsensical arguments that they were presenting.
[01:29:09] allen marcus:
They had no improvisational tactics prepared ahead of time. There was no audible. There was no John Madden. Are we playing oh, wait. The ball is now a soccer ball. Let's handle it differently. They were very orthodox and strict in their prepared talking points. There was no deviation from that mean, and stochastic terrorism
[01:29:39] Unknown:
hit them by surprise like a gorilla attack. They had They had no idea what to do with it, and I knew they wouldn't. When I dropped that into the group chat earlier that day, when it hit me that that's exactly what they were gonna do, they were gonna come at us with a 100% leftist argument that they just they they wouldn't be able to wiggle out of it, and they never could.
[01:30:05] Unknown:
That's right. And I 100% believe that that is why they, will not debate us. And the North the Ortho Bros won't come debate us and just refuse because they're so used to debating people that haven't given their worldview any thought and have the time are are freaking very young girls who just go with whatever feels good.
[01:30:35] allen marcus:
Of course, you can dominate them in a debate. I was allowed into an orthodox space on Twitter one time by one Chase Haggard who thought that I might be a Calvinist. So I thought I might be a Calvinist. And when I approached the sacred, Twitter space, they said I had to have a belief system. And if I wasn't a Calvinist, why am I here? And I said, well, I don't understand Orthodox Christianity. I don't understand why Orthodox Christians hate other Christians so much, why they attack other Christians so much, and I have questions to ask. I was told the best thing about orthodoxy is there are no gays in it. And I What about being Orthodox? Say, well
[01:31:38] Unknown:
They like stinky fish. That's what that's the ones I call the stinky fish church. Lutherans
[01:31:45] allen marcus:
do have potluck dinners serving lutefisk, l u t e f I s k. Lutefisk. Pound. Yes.
[01:31:58] Unknown:
Yeah. I have a giant I've got an f three fifty that's with a four inch lift, and I've been told that my truck should be illegal. Only in California do I get told that. But
[01:32:14] allen marcus:
All trucks should be illegal unless unless you are needing a truck. Are you UPS? Are you mailman? Are are you CDL driver?
[01:32:27] Unknown:
No. But I haul, about 10 tons of supplies up the mountain a week between the hay and the animal feed and groceries and fuel. That's why I got such a big fucking truck, and I live out on some of the worst roads you could you could possibly imagine if you even call them roads. And so I need large tires to get my differential off the ground. So to have large tires, you have to have a lifted truck. So I got a lifted truck with large tires and big old diesel, and I can haul anything I want. It's fucking right up the side of a mountain. So that's where I live.
[01:33:12] allen marcus:
I forgot to ask Marty last
[01:33:15] Unknown:
night about You should be able to own a truck unless you can drive a stick, though. I don't think that there should be an automatic
[01:33:23] Unknown:
Yes. You should not have a truck unless you can drive a stick.
[01:33:28] Unknown:
Yeah. Like, I've got I've got the six speed. So it's a five speed with a granny in it. And because of where I live, that is amazing. Like, it doesn't matter what's going on. If I throw that fucker in the in the low, what it Jake calls first is they call it a six speed, but it's really a five speed with a granny. But I throw it in the first. You can let the clutch out. It don't matter how much weight you got on, what you're towing, and you're going straight up the side of a mountain. It don't matter.
[01:33:56] allen marcus:
Manual transmission?
[01:33:58] Unknown:
Yeah. I always get dumb fucks that don't that live in their parents' basement. Joe Cool fucking Joe Cool lives in his car. You you don't you don't even Like, always
[01:34:09] allen marcus:
the last time.
[01:34:11] Unknown:
I've actually got into that argument on, flows on, powder Dusty's channel before because some other dumb shit's like, well, then how are you on the end? And people always think that that's, like, some slick gotcha. Then how are you on the Internet?
[01:34:25] allen marcus:
It's got a Do you have plates right now? How do you have electricity? How can you call yourself an off gridder if you aren't camping outside under
[01:34:39] Unknown:
a tent. When I shut off this?
[01:34:42] Unknown:
Oh. Oh. Whoop.
[01:34:45] Unknown:
Oh.
[01:34:46] allen marcus:
Flashlights. What's going on there? Where does the lights go? What is a grid? What is a grid? Is that a Tron reference?
[01:34:57] Unknown:
Yes. A grid is this thing where when you live where the city re is using is providing you resources, there's this thing called an electrical grid, which you go ahead and just go plug your shit in, and you don't have to have a generator or pan panels or none of those things. And the same thing with water, you don't have to do anything to receive your water. You don't have to do anything to do any of that. Myself, like, right because we get our water out of a out of a creek, like, every three days if we want water, I gotta go clean my filter. On the creek, the very first filter that keeps the the big nasty shit from going down into my water tank and blah blah blah. And if the fill if the creek gets too low, I've gotta go move it. If it's, I gotta maintain it, make sure it stays flowed. It doesn't get all kinds of junk in there. Make sure the ducks didn't use it for a shit pond.
Like, all those kind of things, electrical. And he's like, if you're not living on solar panels, I was like, it was like fucking midnight when he said that to me. I'm like, what fucking sun am I supposed to be getting, you dumb motherfucker? Are you fucking kidding me? Me running You look like you're fighting, but you don't look like you're fighting. Run my Internet and my TV and my fucking fridge, and then we and then we charge up these batteries with them. So that way, when we don't have the power on, we still have lights and shit.
[01:36:28] Unknown:
Yeah. That was only pushed back. Sideswiped in Atlanta at 02:00 in the morning by a new Mustang, past due on the inside shoulder, hit your camper, and kept going. That sucks, man. That sucks. I got it. Question for Ben in Florence, Oregon, camping in the Swiss Law Forest, road tripping to LA.
[01:36:56] Unknown:
Without doxing, what part of NorCal are you again? This is from Oh, I dox myself all the time, bro. It's okay. I I live in Humboldt. I'm I'm right outside of Garberville. Where I live, like, I live deep. I it takes me two hours to get to the grocery store. So I'm so deep out in the mountains. It it doesn't ever bother me, the doxing thing. And then, also, I have a I I'm a real farm, so I have so many animals. I know I know if somebody is within, like, two miles of my farm before they're at, you know, before they're there. The animals are staring at them, freaking out. When you get on my farm, you have to contend with five pit bulls and Bubba and and the angry alpaca who hates you because you, you were a stranger in a danger, and he Unless you're me. In which case, buddy's fine. Stay like Steve.
[01:37:49] Unknown:
But yeah. Yeah. So if you're not me, you know, don't show up unannounced.
[01:37:56] Unknown:
But, yeah, I am I'm always cool for getting together. But, yeah, it's, I'm right outside of Garberville. So, like, if you want if you like, obviously, like, you like things like that. So, the thing that we're closest to is the, Avenue Of The Giants where all the giant redwoods are. Mhmm. Super, super nice area. I put up videos of it sometimes. Anytime that I'm going to the store, we stop there. That's, that it's our pee spot. We stop there and let the dogs out, and they go pee, and we go pee, and gets in
[01:38:29] allen marcus:
The, preferred terminology is your urination station.
[01:38:34] Unknown:
Urination station. That is our urination station there in the Redwood.
[01:38:38] Unknown:
I And it really is a kidney rattler going, out of out of the road from the farm to the paved road. It really is. Because it it like Yeah.
[01:38:52] allen marcus:
All all the inside reach out.
[01:38:54] Unknown:
It's two miles through the most hellish road, and it's completely confusing. We can't ever get anybody to come up here. None of the delivery companies will come up here. Only, they'll go to the post office in town. So, like, if I get something from UPS or something, it goes even if you write my physical address, it'll go to the post office. You're like, no.
[01:39:16] Unknown:
Yeah. We're not doing that. Not that we know that road. We're not going on that road. And you can't just drop it at the freaking end of the road. It'll get fucking stolen in ten minutes.
[01:39:30] Unknown:
Yeah. Or less.
[01:39:32] Unknown:
Arcade is nice. It's nice up there. It's cool. Nice. And, yeah, they're they're on the southern end. So if you took the avenue all the way south and it spat you out, like, by Redway,
[01:39:43] Unknown:
Yeah. That's the side of of Humboldt that that Ben's on. Yeah. I I live on Murder Mountain. When I when I moved up here, I was a much bigger speaker back then. It was before, YouTube started clamping down on all of us and taking away our shows and shit. And so, probably, what, 30 or 40 people came up here and Yeah. Helped us move up here and, super super neat time. It's a it's a gorgeous area. But fucking Living in a city. My dad my dad got a backhoe because he wants to run around and do some stuff with a with a backhoe and, which we greatly appreciate.
The backhoe driver, he gets there. He's like, isn't this murder mountain? We're like, yeah. Yeah. It is.
[01:40:40] Unknown:
Yep. No. It's funny. When you moved there, I think it was the year that that Netflix special came out.
[01:40:47] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Only I would choose to move into that. That's, we we didn't know. You know, but at the but the end at the end of the day, that reputation and and the thing is that reputation came from when cannabis was fully illegal and they were still getting, like, $5,000 a pound for it. Stop. Well, he's still getting, like, 5,000 a pound. Well, you grow fucking a 100 pounds at $5 a pound, that's half a million fucking dollars. And that you bet people will do some real fucked up shit for that. Well, now when pie when it's selling for fucking $203,100 dollars a pound and it's hard to sell, you end up sitting on half of it until it's rotten, until it's drier and shit, and you sell it for 100 a pound. Well, that's not really worth fucking doing much shit for.
Right?
[01:41:45] Unknown:
And it's gonna get even more weird if, Trump changes it to a schedule three.
[01:41:57] allen marcus:
What's a schedule three?
[01:41:59] Unknown:
Schedule three is like your over the counter stuff. Oh, okay. For it and the hoops that you have to jump through in order to make it a commercially marketable product are more so than what schedule two drugs have to go through because they only have to go through pharmaceutical regulation, not statewide and then federal regulation on top of what the pharmaceutical industry demands.
[01:42:29] allen marcus:
So where is Tylenol on the schedule?
[01:42:33] Unknown:
It's in the autism spectrum, apparently.
[01:42:36] allen marcus:
Like, is that a rainbow?
[01:42:39] Unknown:
You know you know what's funny about that, though? You you guys of the colors are shades of gray. Do you remember that? Indigo. This was this was years ago. They used to talk about Tylenol made it so you didn't you couldn't have empathy and things like that, that it made you less emotional.
[01:42:55] Unknown:
Like, do you guys That was the SSRIs.
[01:42:58] Unknown:
But no. Tylenol I remember the the the pain killer thing. Also.
[01:43:03] allen marcus:
Right. There was this idea that if you had a little ache and pain, you just feel it out. Let the body know where it is, concentrate in the area, feel it out. But every time you step on a Lego, stub your toe, you know, I I heard women speaking so much about, like, the pain they go through, and then men would be like, I feel a little discomfort, and then just, you know, take a pill for it. And it was like, unless you absolutely need a painkiller, don't take it. And then somehow we get to the painkiller epidemic. What is that one? OxyContin? Oxy so now you go from a baby aspirin to an oxy What's the deal there?
[01:43:48] Unknown:
The the the deal with OxyContin is people don't realize that when you take for me anyways, I didn't enjoy the high of it, and I don't see how anybody could. It was it's a very gross high. It's it's just anger. Like, if you want to take a pill that is pure anger, that's the one. Like, you are ready to fucking do some angry. You are the hulk. But, what it did do, though, is it took away all the aches and pains. And I've been through enough in my life. I have a certain level of aches and pains that I go through every day. I wake up. I'm at that level. And it'll just kinda deteriorate through the day as I'm tired or whatnot, but it's what I'm used to. Well, then the OxyContin, all of a sudden, it takes away all those pains. And so now all of a sudden, if I don't have OxyContin, and this is I only took it for, like, four months, so I'm not, like, some expert on the OxyContin addiction.
It's when I flew off a motorcycle into a tree and shattered my left side, and I still went to it for four months. Where I was having a problem was Mhmm. Those aches when those aches and pains came back, all of a sudden it was like, remember me? And you're like, oh god. That hurts. That hurts. OxyContin. You know? And and the thing is is there's all there's a bunch of aches and pains that I'm gonna have for the rest of my fucking life. And if I can't deal with that, then I'm in a lot of trouble, but I can deal with it. So this pill taking them away and then getting them all back at once, that was hard.
Hard.
[01:45:34] allen marcus:
Hard for you, but easy to prescribe.
[01:45:36] Unknown:
Similar problems. Steve also operates at a level of pain on a daily basis that most people can't fathom. And so losing all the pain, that's a thing. It's like, oh, this is nice.
[01:45:50] Unknown:
Right. I I'll tell you what, man. I I had already, like, I'd already been through the maybe I have a problem with heroin thing before I had my my fall off the roof. Now parts of my leg are missing injury. And so I freaked out in the hospital when I found out that they had me simultaneously on a morphine drip with a fentanyl epidural. Oh. And I, like, yanked the epidural out of me and was like, no. I'll fucking kill you. I'm not leaving here dope sick. You know? That's that's not gonna fucking happen. No. No. We're not doing this. About a year later, my brother and I got into a particular type of home distilling that is frowned upon by people who used to be referred to as revenuers.
And, you know, we had a, let's say, contraption.
[01:46:56] allen marcus:
Revenue contraption. Device. It just It's my brother's head.
[01:47:02] Unknown:
Okay. Where where we would make this particular drink. And once upon a time, there's a gentleman who I won't name because he's a, you know, upstanding family man now, and I don't wanna drag his name through the mud. But I will put his ex wife his ex wife's father on blast, who was an old Vietnam vet named Terry. And when Terry came back from Vietnam, there was a particular hillside in the Santa Cruz Mountains that he scattered with actual fucking poppy
[01:47:42] allen marcus:
seeds. Oh.
[01:47:44] Unknown:
Like, the real ones from Southeast Asia. And so Heirloom heirloom poppy seeds. Terry and his son-in-law would strafe the poppies and then collect the the oot. And there was a night when we're just sitting around my buddy's house, and we got, like, a quart jar. And it's just it you know, it's sitting there. We're sipping on it, you know, but that's all you can do. It's not like anybody chugging something that comes in a 188 proof, son. You ain't do or you do it if you do it once. You do it once, and that's it. But we took a much smaller, like, a eight ounce jelly jar or something like that, poured some off in it, and took a golf ball size of the poppy scraping, threw it in that, shook it up a little bit, threw a little bit of ball of hash in there.
And about forty five minutes or an hour later, the whole thing had changed color significantly. And we took just little nips off of the jelly jar, and then all of the sudden, there was, like, this warm purple glow around absolutely everything. And I had no pain. I had no pain. None. For, like, the first time in a couple of years, it was all gone.
[01:49:13] allen marcus:
Was there pleasure? Was there any sensation?
[01:49:16] Unknown:
I mean, there was okay. Is it pleasure, bro? It Euphoria, if not pleasure. Okay. You know? The the the feeling of of being, like, legitimately satisfied with your surroundings, with your overall you know, the all of that shit was gone. It wasn't there anymore. And I looked at my buddy well, that Ben met, my other friend Ben. I looked at him, and I was like, I understand how they built the railroads. Ben
[01:49:52] Unknown:
Ben also was married to Christie. Yeah. Ben was married to a Christie. Yeah. But we have met before, and it was Ben and Christie and Ben and Christie. Mhmm. And then and then I said I said to Ben, I said, that's an awesome shirt. Ben's like, I like yours, and we traded shirts.
[01:50:09] Unknown:
Yep. And they touched beards.
[01:50:11] Unknown:
Yeah. And we touched beards.
[01:50:13] Unknown:
I was thinking, like, a dimensional portal would open if it happened. It maybe it did. It did. And Sydney Sweeney swam through. I'm sorry. I don't want credit for this one. Yeah.
[01:50:25] allen marcus:
Sydney Sweeney swam through the interdimensional portal when you summoned her by saying Euphoria. That is the name of an Israeli television program that was, released by HBO to an American audience in which Sydney Sweeney has great genes and shows them off quite frequently.
[01:50:46] Unknown:
So the story Is that the one with the no. It's not. No. That was There is a Utopia? Was that the fucking John Cusack thing or no?
[01:50:56] allen marcus:
No. Euphoria is some horseshit. Right? Euphoria is the HBO show with teenagers in it who have the transgender individual who sleeps over with a Milano Zendaya figure, and it's about these high school kids who are experiencing emotions for the first time, and then they try different substances to
[01:51:20] Unknown:
approach the euphoria. You see, this is why I say he's Argus. Nobody wants to watch that. Not even teenagers wanna watch that. Right. Argus, he knows all about it. Nobody else knows what the fuck he's talking about. He said Euphoria, and I was like, oh, that's a great leftover salmon song.
[01:51:37] allen marcus:
Salmon. I like fish. More salmon, please.
[01:51:41] Unknown:
Mhmm. My dish. Marcus Marcus knows all of it. He's just he's he's he's gonna be the new Argus. Well, this is I you know, this is a a surveillance apparatus called Argus?
[01:51:52] allen marcus:
Argus.
[01:51:53] Unknown:
They made it. It's got, like, a thousand cameras at once, and it can go down to reading a freaking candy bar wrapper on the pavement from however many mile and a half up in the sky it is. Enhance. Enhance. Enhance. That was in a Tom Clancy movie. Very good technology.
[01:52:12] Unknown:
Enlocks.
[01:52:14] allen marcus:
Enhance. Enhance. Enhance. Enhance. So if we wanna talk about Hollywood movies with Rob Knower sometime, love to do it. Love to talk about all the Hollywood movies. That would be a great conversation. Swallow your food, floss, brush your teeth, use the restroom a couple times, and empty your mind, empty your bowels, and then Rob know, and let's have a conversation about all your favorite movies and metaphors, boat movies. I'm sure Rob knows about Euphoria, the Hollywood show, and has watched all of them with his loving wife together. And the only people watching HBO shows, Dexon City, all all of them and we're gonna talk Game of Thrones. It's coming back, apparently. There's gonna be more Game of Thrones spin off series.
So that's that's on the that's on the future in the future. And, also, Amazon now holds the property to the James Bond series, and the first, action has been to remove all guns from James Bond movie posters. So when you go to Amazon Prime, you look for a James Bond movie, all of the guns have been digitally removed. So now you have Pierce Brosnan doing a winker pose without a gun in his hand. It's like the GI Joe action figure grip. All the guns have been digitally removed. I think the next move will be to remove all the women. Weights with a shake weight. Well, this is this is where shake weights are great options. Yes. Also, Harry Potter has been enhanced with guns. So all the lawns have been turned into pew pew sticks, and they emit bullets from them. Harry Potter was done. Like when, that Shakespeare
[01:54:05] Unknown:
that shakes remember that Shakespeare gun, you know,
[01:54:11] allen marcus:
and then the everything Romeo plus Juliet? Yeah. With that Leonardo DiCaprio.
[01:54:17] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. And Claire Danes. Right? Claire Danes. And they made all this they tried to make a modern
[01:54:23] Unknown:
Romeo and Juliet out of it. Yeah. When I was in high school, I had a little bit of a crush on Claire Danes. Just a little bit. A little bit. I I so we went to New York crazy. We went to New York City. Sure. My my junior year of high school on, like, a a field trip thing. And they put us all up in a hotel in Manhattan. There were two chaperones for, I think, 15 of us. And we were like, fuck you. We're just gonna go run wild on the streets of New York the entire time. We'll show up to the things that we're supposed to show up for, sort of, but we're gonna be wasted,
[01:55:07] allen marcus:
and we're going to be disruptive. So you lived here on euphoria without HBO having to serialize it? I'm at this little, like,
[01:55:15] Unknown:
open air market thing in Soho, and I'd all but bump right into Claire Danes. In the flesh? What? In the actual flesh. And instead of being like, carve your name in my chest. What did you say? I did one of those, like, little, little high. You know, like a total fucking rube from Indiana because that's what I was. What did Claire Danes smell like? Let's see. Peaches and sunshine and happiness, and I don't fucking know. Oh, this is This was a long time ago. I mean, compared to the streets of New York. I mean, it there's a distinct difference in smell when she Yeah. And she definitely is Claire CIA Danes, man. She did that show Homeland where Stephen Colbert got super mad at her for starting to talk about starting to talk about the relationship that the CIA had with people who did TV shows and stuff like that?
[01:56:26] Unknown:
Was she on my so called life with Jared Leto? I don't remember. Okay. Yes. Yes. That is correct. Okay. I didn't have that experience, but Christie did. She met Don Denver and had a big old crush on John Denver, and she drove out to him and went, you're John Denver, and drove away. So I'm beginning to feel a little bit like a slick dissident kind of going on that. Appreciate it because I think he probably had lost count of who he was and was like I do. He was like Yeah. Oh, that little girl over there said I'm John Denver. That's right. Thank god I'm a country boy. I see Chris Miner's here. I I know we kind of, started That was the John Denver. Right?
[01:57:05] allen marcus:
Yeah. John Denver, country boy, Slickdiss.
[01:57:08] Unknown:
Actually a country boy. No. No. Not at all. He was he was a he was a hippie that liked to sleep around on his wife and shit a lot. We we'd like to we'd like to collaborate with Slickdus, and I feel like I'm weaving a little web tonight even from Euphoria. Out, but I gotta be honest. I don't know what this means, so I'm not I'm not aware of where we got called out. We may have been Jets? Yeah. We may have been we may have missed it. I don't know if that was, like, meet us under the waterfall after
[01:57:41] allen marcus:
It was Criptech. September. Yeah. And we will fight. And I need a lot more. We needed a we needed a secret decoder ring to figure out what happened. We might have missed the window, the astrological timing. I I do have something here about Claire's, you know, the mall store where people will get pierced flesh. Oh, yeah. I noticed the store closure. I'd like to read to our value customers. It says, this Claire's location has been permanently closed. When he comes,
[01:58:11] Unknown:
we expect to be closed but not clothed, hungry yet full Mhmm. And and to speak to us yet be silent. Paradoxically
[01:58:23] allen marcus:
speaking, this Clare's location has been permanently closed. The decision reflects both external pressure and internal restructuring. In recent months, repeated attacks of ridicule by radical left agitators have gone beyond mere criticism escalating into a deliberate effort to destabilize our company. Conduct, we recognize as domestic economic terrorism.
[01:58:49] Unknown:
This is what the letter says. It's pretty As long as it's not stochastic terrorism, we're okay. Because as we learned last night, only words and potential violence are bad. Real world on the ground violence is easily dismissible.
[01:59:04] allen marcus:
At the same time, our transition under new private equity ownership required difficult financial choices. Protecting the stability of shareholders was prioritized, and the store, along with its local workforce, was deemed expendable in service of that obligation to the shareholders. Despite these challenges
[01:59:26] Unknown:
go ahead, Steve. Oh, no. No. No. No. I just Claire's was her second job. Right. So, yeah, I wanna know how many fucking screaming white bitches you shot in the fucking head with the little ear piercing gun. 2400
[01:59:41] allen marcus:
West Central Road, Hoffman Estates, Illinois 60192 Claire's Store Incorporated, CBI Distributing Corporation. Despite these challenges, Claire's remains committed to our identity as a traditional American company rooted in values of family and community where young
[01:59:57] Unknown:
women go to get flesh pierced and hide it from their dad until they try to Large Mexican mothers take their two year old Mexican daughters to get their ears pierced too. That
[02:00:08] allen marcus:
is true. That is true.
[02:00:10] Unknown:
Yeah. How can how many Mexican babies did you shoot up? Maybe that's in a better question. How many times do you have to, like Did you have to, like, hold their head down a little bit and then came in with the gun and the
[02:00:25] allen marcus:
New debate prompt dropped. Was Claire's or Hot Topic worse for society?
[02:00:34] Unknown:
Oh, well I'd have to go with Hot Topic. I I would probably I I could find an argument for Claire's, but, yeah, it's probably hot topic. It probably is. There was a third store in the mall.
[02:00:49] allen marcus:
Mhmm. I forget the name of it. Was it Spencer's Gifts
[02:00:55] Unknown:
with edible underwear? Gift is poor boys.
[02:00:58] allen marcus:
Edible underwear harms someone, surely, yeast infections.
[02:01:03] Unknown:
Maybe if you have a gelatin allergy. I don't know. Was it like fruit by the foot? Get to eat edible underwear? I would think that there's, like, a horse hooves contract and a yellow that would
[02:01:17] allen marcus:
Yeah. The horse hooves.
[02:01:19] Unknown:
Yeah. You guys need to stop fucking you guys are dirtying Marcus up with this talk.
[02:01:25] allen marcus:
I'm not even reading the show.
[02:01:28] Unknown:
Yeah. It's pure. I'd never purchased anything from Spencer's. I also did not steal or shop left. Don't don't fucking go lead Marcus straight thinking it's okay for him to go into Spencer's. We're gonna lose value.
[02:01:39] Unknown:
No. That's right. That's right. We do need that we do need that half Bitcoin buy in before the 2 Bitcoin
[02:01:47] Unknown:
where are you? You guys start having him hang out in Spencer's. Next thing you know, he's next thing you know, he's trying to eat fucking fruit by the foot on somebody else's crotch. Then he's not worth nothing.
[02:02:01] Unknown:
That would be really weird. That would be really weird if you, like, put fruit by the foot in a pussy and then just ate your way to it. That would be really weird.
[02:02:12] Unknown:
Dude, one time alright. Where I'm from? I I'm from South Dakota. So South Dakota. I have a lot of foot by the fruit by the foot by the foot by the foot. So they have a lot of biker parties. Star Sturgis is just the biggest one, but they have it all over in South Dakota. Big party. Oh, well, they had yeah. That one's huge. Well, there's one called the abate club party. It's outside of Aberdeen, and they rent out they rent this whole lake. So cops can't come in or nothing, and it's fucking wild. They literally roll up with a beer truck, and you can walk up to that beer truck with a five gallon bucket and fill up. It doesn't matter. It's free beer for fucking, like, the events, like, three or four days.
Well, they have a they had a, skin to win contest, they called it. And I've only and I always seen pictures of it's the fucked up part because I was so high on mushrooms. I walked with the crowd. And then when I got there, I was turning around, and I was looking up at the stars. And there was some girl, like, three feet from my head that shoved so many glow sticks up her vagina that her stomach was glowing.
[02:03:23] Unknown:
Wow.
[02:03:24] Unknown:
Yeah. I see in the pictures. And I was sitting there, like, turned around backwards staring up at the sky, just fucking mushroomed out like a motherfucker. Wow. Steve didn't even get to hear about the damn glow sticks. It's the whole point to the story.
[02:03:48] allen marcus:
Two hours, three minutes glow sticks.
[02:03:51] Unknown:
We'll play it back. We we probably don't need to clip that.
[02:03:56] allen marcus:
We don't need to, but we will. All of all of these things that we thought were new trends are very, very well, not so old trends. I'm seeing on social media, you know, you know, body modifications, sure, that they've been a thing for a while. People have modified their bodies with stick and poke tattoos and put objects under the skin so they have different textures and things. And I I don't know what platform specifically. I'll blame Snapchat, but there's an advertisement for implants, but then putting LED lights underneath the mammaries so that they do glow.
[02:04:40] Unknown:
Like Wouldn't it do that make them hot, though? Isn't that already a problem? LED lights
[02:04:45] allen marcus:
are cooler. They they run a little cooler so that you could have fan under there too? So when someone flashes you, they could actually flash you. There would be light emanating.
[02:05:00] Unknown:
They could probably And they are really are headlights from, like, the eighties when everybody sell pits headlights.
[02:05:05] allen marcus:
That's all the headlight jokes are probably going to be a hot Halloween costume this year. Oh, that's fucking funny. So there is there is humor in that. So, you know, if you're gonna be a stripper, if you're gonna be a Destiny, be a fun one. Be funny. Be entertaining. Be more than just your own skin. Have a personality, Rob. Have a personality. That was probably the deepest dig that I heard last night, his lack of personality and flexibility in life experience. Which is worse for society? Claire's, Hot Topics, and or maybe Spencer's in the mall?
[02:05:49] Unknown:
Oh, fuck.
[02:05:51] allen marcus:
Wet seal will also be thrown in there. There were there were certain women that were taught by their mothers to dress like hussies, I think. Was it was it hussy?
[02:06:02] Unknown:
Hussies. Jezebels.
[02:06:06] allen marcus:
There were there were there was two types of women in seventh grade, those who had,
[02:06:10] Unknown:
thong underwear and those who didn't. That was a clear dividing line. And those who show show Over thong underwear. Thong I was in, when I was in school, they were mostly just, granny panties with designs on them. Whale tails. That's They got they got into, like, the bikini brief, you know, where it wasn't quite so giant when I was in school, but thongs wasn't till I was an adult.
[02:06:35] allen marcus:
I remember the thongs. That thong. It's a thong. Thong. Thong. Tim. Timoney Tim. Timoney in chat. Shout out. And Bitcoin daddy was here. I thought I saw Bitcoin daddy in chat, but I don't I lost I saw Bitcoin daddy. You saw Bitcoin daddy?
[02:06:51] Unknown:
I did.
[02:06:54] Unknown:
Bunch of hustlers.
[02:06:56] Unknown:
Yeah. Back when you were got all excited because you saw some girl's underwears. Like, oh, look. Her underwear are up the crack of her ass. Sexy.
[02:07:05] allen marcus:
It's a curiosity.
[02:07:07] Unknown:
They're called cheekies now? Wait. Which one? The thongs or the bikinis? So VPL or visible panty line She says it's half in between. She says a a bikini a cheeky is not quite a thong, but not quite a bikini. It's it's a it's like having a thong that doesn't go off your butt crack. It does still. Apparently, it still does, but less less in your butt crack. Less, like, directly in the butt crack. More of a it's more of like a permanent wedgie.
[02:07:39] Unknown:
More fabric for the permanent.
[02:07:45] Unknown:
Because nobody wants a string in their butt. Something more uncomfortable. Claire's have They go on green skipper. Accessories.
[02:07:58] allen marcus:
You know, you you get that starter piercing. I don't know. Once you get your first first piercing, and then you'll get more and more and more. And then you'll get tattoos, and then you'll get STDs, and you'll get d DUIs
[02:08:12] Unknown:
and all the acronyms and things. It's it's all downhill from there. And Tattoos weren't cool yet when I was young. I was the first person I knew that got a tattoo that, like, in my I remember I was in high school still because I I got it when I on my seventeenth birthday. And then I went to wrestle, and they made me wrestle in T shirts because fucking they didn't want my tattoo showing. Uh-huh. Licorice is also uncomfortable in your ass.
[02:08:42] allen marcus:
Oh, clack licorice?
[02:08:47] Unknown:
How about those
[02:08:48] Unknown:
with anus flavored?
[02:08:53] allen marcus:
George Floyd flavored fentanyl brand licorice. Yeah.
[02:09:03] Unknown:
It tastes like fentanyl and fried chicken.
[02:09:07] allen marcus:
Well, there there was there was the issue of the exhibition of the live execution being a snuff film, but, you know, Rob was a gentleman and Marte is a catechumen. So it didn't get into the explicit nature of the snuff film that we all watch with bended knee genuflecting upon the throat of their lord and savior.
[02:09:29] Unknown:
And I did miss the thing about the glow sticks. Were the glow sticks in, like, inside people? Is that was was that the point?
[02:09:36] Unknown:
She she she jammed her he she jammed her cooter so full of glow sticks, their stomach started glowing.
[02:09:44] Unknown:
That's impressive.
[02:09:46] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean, it's frightening.
[02:09:48] Unknown:
And and I wouldn't, you know, want anybody I know's daughter to do it, but that's that's impressive.
[02:09:53] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. She won the contest. She won the contest. Or. There there was no contest.
[02:10:01] Unknown:
I'd seen on on the Twitters, like, light up titty implants.
[02:10:09] Unknown:
Yeah. So we have the back of the back of the truck. Yeah. Yep.
[02:10:13] Unknown:
And then there's apparently, like, light up butt plugs too?
[02:10:20] allen marcus:
Yes. With the sheer dress.
[02:10:22] Unknown:
I'm scared to ask a little bit, but what glows? When the I mean, I understand the plug is glowing, but The the part that you like the part that you you would, like, grab onto to insert or remove,
[02:10:34] Unknown:
I don't think it's the actual inserted plug part. I think it's just because you call it a a handle or something. I don't know the terminology.
[02:10:44] Unknown:
That. Is this like that putting a jewel on your cat's ass thing?
[02:10:48] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sorta. Except for there's a butt plug attached to you.
[02:10:54] allen marcus:
And the reels will show a woman walking through Paris, you know, under the Eiffel Tower, and then she'll start twerking and then start glowing. But you'll see it through a transparent dress, so you're not seeing things that would cause it to be removed for nudity. But you're wondering, well, where's the light coming from? There's a flashing, a noose.
[02:11:19] Unknown:
What is the We apologize, Linds. We're all children of God. We're just discussing the degeneracy of humanity in a very scornful and decrepiting fashion. Of these things. And like I said, I was Disavow. Disavow.
[02:11:32] Unknown:
And like I said, I was a good boy during the whole jamming her her cooter full of glow sticks. I was just high on mushrooms and staring at the stars like a good boy.
[02:11:43] Unknown:
I have personally never taken part in the insertion of glow sticks into any any orifice period.
[02:11:50] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm sure. Yeah. I have been to a couple of pretty weird raves. But And and and and we're gonna have to do, like, on that Rick and Morty or the where you take the memory out and then put it somewhere else to Marcus after the show now. Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah. There's people that have, like, little things that they hang over their cats' butts because got cats are always walking around showing you their ass, and they put, like, a little jewel on it to pretty it up.
[02:12:16] Unknown:
They offended my dad's.
[02:12:18] Unknown:
Ouch. Oh, that's my nuts. I know. I know. I know. It's done. Good. Oh,
[02:12:24] Unknown:
you son of a bitch. Oh, he's okay. He just got my nuts on the way up. Well, yeah, it's not okay. Intentional. Don't call him to move anymore. Let it let it let settle this for a minute. Just let it settle. Say hi above everyone.
[02:12:43] allen marcus:
Hi, Bubba, everyone. Hey, Bubba. You guys just sat on my lap enough tonight. So So what we're actually doing here is warning people of the dangers of devil's night and Halloween and encouraging celebration of Jesus ween and harvest I'm sorry. God is greater parties at churches. Usually, they'll park cars, open the trunks, and you go from car to car to receive blessings from your parishioners.
[02:13:13] Unknown:
Do not go to the Jesus wean festival at the Catholic church. Avoid that one.
[02:13:19] Unknown:
I I didn't see anybody put the glow stick stuff on their teeth before, but the actually, the funny thing is is this ties into Steve's story from earlier. The first time I ever drank an opium drink, I got a somebody smuggled it in, a friend of mine, and we took all and we covered all the windows with blankets. So it was pitched completely dark in the house, and then broke glow sticks and poked holes in the end and taped them to the ceiling fan and fucking turned it on while we were all fucking gacked out from that opium drink.
[02:13:51] Unknown:
Oh, that was fucking wild. Oh, I bet. Glass. What Had to be great.
[02:13:56] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. It was pretty great. Not gonna lie. And and and dogs roll in dead animals to how to so that way your life is miserable. I am fairly sure of that. Dogs roll in dead shit because they can,
[02:14:11] Unknown:
and they want you to they secretly want you to bathe them.
[02:14:16] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:14:17] Unknown:
Yeah. Right? Yeah. No. We're not encouraging any of this degenerate behavior.
[02:14:29] allen marcus:
This is a warning. Now there is a level of rebellion that some people go through the phase. Some people remain in that rebellious stage for far too long, and this sort of having having to experience a bit of a to then say, well, that's too far. These are the these are the boundaries. That's too far. Whereas someone like
[02:14:57] Unknown:
Whenever someone to digest the Okay.
[02:15:01] allen marcus:
Declares himself to be a degenerate He'll chase that fucking mirror off. Wants people to watch his home movies. He shares them to his Discord servers, and he puts them in DMs. He want he what did you think of this? Like, rate my perform and this type of thing. That sort of degenerate behavior. So is that worse for society, or was George Floyd worse? Well, George Floyd's riding across the globe, across the world
[02:15:32] Unknown:
had no Marcus already tried to be a Calvinist. He went in there and he was like, I'm a Calvinist? Like, you're not Calvin y enough for the Calvin club. He's like, I'm not Calvin y enough for the Calvin club. And then they took the video down, so he can't be It was audio only.
[02:15:50] Unknown:
Audio. Audio. My bad audio.
[02:15:54] allen marcus:
They did not show their faces. They were confessing in shame.
[02:16:00] Unknown:
They all have freaking freaking crusade night avatars and shit like that. They were waiting
[02:16:09] allen marcus:
for me to be a Calvinist full of sloppy theology for them to prove to Jay and the other guy, and Drew Wilson named after a volleyball company, I believe.
[02:16:26] Unknown:
That is correct. Wilson. Wilson.
[02:16:33] allen marcus:
They wanted to impress their Orthodox peers by trapping a Calvinist slop theology and then defending their own faith. And I was bear fucking trash. Scooping up. I was not the person they wanted to debate, but no one else showed up. So they let me in. I spoke. I asked some questions. I got some answers. And, you know, they have some interesting belief structures. Our argument against orthodoxy has to do with the weird people who pull people into weird Twitter spaces without lights on and cameras on, and they're whispering and saying strange things and recording it and wanting to share it with their peers. And it was it's a terminally online
[02:17:16] Unknown:
We're talking bad about me. The light's not off. Christy had to go make sure the dogs don't have a bear tie trapped on top of the chicken coop again.
[02:17:24] allen marcus:
Okay. That's
[02:17:27] Unknown:
fair. Yeah. He's like a he's like a bear fighter now. He's not it's not McLickens. It's lick his bear fighter.
[02:17:33] allen marcus:
Lickens bear fighter versus timid grappler round one.
[02:17:38] Unknown:
Yeah. That timid grappler wasn't so timid, but Lucas went out there and fucking chased him on top of the chicken coop and had him treed up on top of the chicken coop. The boldness of the formerly timid grappler
[02:17:51] allen marcus:
is charted around full moons and Halloweens and Jesus wings. That sort of period of time starts getting darker at night just before the frost hits, before the sun true holy water from the Jesus wing.
[02:18:10] Unknown:
Mhmm. Yeah. Which always just I and I realize that they got this from the Christianity, but it always just remembers reminds me of that, bordello of blood that tale tale from the Crip movie and where they're like, this cross has a little bit of Jesus blood that keeps re getting refilled with other dudes' bloods. That's what they told me about the oil. And a little bit of it's Jesus blood still.
[02:18:35] allen marcus:
They have this
[02:18:36] Unknown:
bowl of It's like sourdough.
[02:18:39] allen marcus:
2,000 years old.
[02:18:41] Unknown:
Yeah. It's like the mother. It's the mother. Yeah. The original
[02:18:45] allen marcus:
drop of oil remains, and it multiplies, and they keep refilling it. So they have this original barrel of oil somewhere that they keep tapping when they need it, and then they replenish it. But it's an ongoing, un schism lineage of unbrokenness. They are the original originals of all originality, originating from the original oil that they have. And that's Marcus kind of Marcus
[02:19:18] Unknown:
is like non Euclidean geometry. There is no explaining it. You can't make a a model for it. It just is.
[02:19:32] Unknown:
Yeah. No. I mean, clearly, as you can tell from the screen right now, Marcus lives in a pineapple under the sea.
[02:19:44] allen marcus:
I am SpongeBob. No pants. Bitcoin daddy. Where are you? I need you tonight. Bitcoin daddy. That could also be a been pale and porous as he. Bitcoin daddy. We only want two of them. No gender differentiation. Yeah. Whatever it is. You are Bitcoin daddy when you have Bitcoin.
[02:20:07] Unknown:
You might be able to get the holy oil for sex lube. I saw that they were handing out the the ashes from the from the red cat from the red hat. Ash. I mean, I mean You know you know you know the small hats. They're all about their moisturizing. Moitendizing. Moitendizing.
[02:20:25] allen marcus:
You know, they're gonna moisturize the juice boxes.
[02:20:30] Unknown:
They love
[02:20:32] Unknown:
it. They keep threatening a space balls too with the actual
[02:20:37] Unknown:
that's a real thing. It's a real thing. It is. Has it been released?
[02:20:42] Unknown:
Has it been come back
[02:20:45] Unknown:
and just offend the fuck out of everybody. I don't know. Destiny and Rob Noor had best get together in their hatred for Mel Brooks or else this ain't shit.
[02:20:59] allen marcus:
Right. We're getting more Game of Thrones. We're getting more Spaceballs. We're getting more James Bond with less gun play, less foreplay, and less women probably. We're getting more Harry Potter just like the old Harry Potter.
[02:21:24] Unknown:
Weird. I didn't watch it. I'm harvesting, and my dad's here, and we're just doing a lot of work. We're trying to make a duck pond right now. I got a video loaded up with dad pulling, some of the fallen trees out of that area. The duck pond? About,
[02:21:42] Unknown:
30 feet from the chicken coop. Oh, okay. In that area, that's where we're kinda If you're still
[02:21:48] Unknown:
over there. Yeah. Okay. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah. Where it's kinda slewy anyways. Mhmm. And and them trees are all die have all died, so they were all falling down anyways. And they were in, like, a big pickup stick pile, but being held up by one big tree. So, like, hell to try and get down. So I cut so I cut them, and, of course, they stayed up in those trees, and then we had dad come out with that backhoe. Yeah. And we're gonna pick a duck pond. And then for our medical grow next year, we'll use that duck pond water full of shit for our garden and shit. Alright.
[02:22:24] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:22:26] Unknown:
Duck shit. I saw a really neat setup in Sonoma County where they had, like, rabbit hutches with a mesh floor that dropped into a fish pond and, like, be a duck pond or whatever. Nice. And then everything from that water went and fed the GROW. That's the ROOMS Gold rabbit emulsion and fish emulsion that went into, the the GROW water. And, man, dude, those plants were giant.
[02:23:01] allen marcus:
Yeah. Rube Goldberg machines.
[02:23:04] Unknown:
That's a sweet setup. I want the my other project I wanna do over the winter here this year is I wanna get a worm farm started. It started to pull up. So I can have
[02:23:14] Unknown:
topias that are, like, three feet high that you just load up with coffee grounds and, like, random kitchen scraps and stuff like that. Oh, they're great, dude. Yeah. Yeah. No. I'm a fan. My brother had one of those. It fucking yeah.
[02:23:33] Unknown:
Their whole yard was Between that and the pack of shit and the and the duck water, I think I I ought to be I ought to be really styling.
[02:23:41] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:23:45] Unknown:
Yeah. We had to we had to add a little extra. Our stuff went so wild this year. We started having we had to over the winter this year, I think what we're gonna do is is take tarps and keep the water from washing stuff away, and we're gonna pound it with coffee grounds and egg shells and stuff. We had a I had to cal mag this garden pretty seriously this year. We started getting some end rot, so I had to cal mag it. Mhmm. And I thought I I thought we should be good with that, but apparently not. It's so wet.
[02:24:14] Unknown:
Well, it's it's so fucking wet.
[02:24:17] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. How wet was it? Well, let's ask fuck. I can't pull her name out. The wet ass pussy chick.
[02:24:29] Unknown:
Wetter than Nicki Minaj in the whole house.
[02:24:32] allen marcus:
Yeah. Yeah. Taylor Swift. It was wetter than Taylor Swift.
[02:24:36] Unknown:
I I don't I don't even It's all You know what, dude? I fucking I'll because I guess she apparently dropped the new album because Instagram is making fun of it. Yes. And so I've seen a whole bunch of reels where, like, this is the Taylor Swift album, and it's just unseasoned chicken with, like, plain macaroni noodles.
[02:24:58] allen marcus:
Well, Taylor Swift has always been that basic bitch over there. She's always been the blonde hair,
[02:25:07] Unknown:
blue eyed. I think the difference this time is that, like, half the songs are about, Travis Kelce's dick. Where whereas on previous albums, the that that wasn't the case. But now, like, her entire album is like, my husband's a multimillionaire
[02:25:25] allen marcus:
football player with big cock, and yours not yours isn't. Which is the same. Yeah. That's true. I'm never gonna be a professional football player. She wants to be not a musician anymore. She's tired of dressing up and dancing on stage for me.
[02:25:43] Unknown:
I I I admit. I I I'm not a professional football player, but I also I don't have to be, married to fucking Napoleon Dynamite.
[02:25:53] Unknown:
Tim Timoney gets line of the day so far. Yeah.
[02:25:58] allen marcus:
Taylor Swift.
[02:25:59] Unknown:
Alright. I don't gotta be married to that. Could you imagine how fucking annoying and entitled that chick is? Mm-mm. I I don't know if Rob Northtongue moves fast enough to make that thing happy and shut the fuck up. My favorite Taylor Swift meme
[02:26:14] Unknown:
is her, like, just standing, and it's got Hank Hill holding a level to her house and her back. And he's like, yep. That's plum. Quail shit is phenomenal fertilizer. Alright. Alright. Believe that. Yeah.
[02:26:37] Unknown:
I believe that. We got a lot of wild quail out here. I tried I I so it's kind of a sad story, but the only quail we had some guy that was out here, like I said, earlier, we had people that came and stayed with us. Well, one of those folks brought button quail with him. He apparently didn't know very much about button quail, and button quail do this thing where they jump up, straight up. And so they need to have a cage that's fairly high because if they do that, they'll kill themselves if the if the cage is very isn't high. And he thought some predator had somehow killed them and left them there because he had this cage where the head was too low. Well, only one of them survived.
And so I kept that bug and quail for quite a while. Well, then I I felt bad for it, so I ordered it some friends, and it's the only time I ever tried to mail order. And it's when I first got the experience of how horrible the mail is out where I live. And you bet them little quails came dead, so never did that shit again. But I had a little buck quail there. Yeah. Just quails sent to you? It used to talk it used to talk to me. Like, I figured it we've you know, and it had this whole Lucky. Yeah. We called her lucky because it was the only one that survived, and it it it it depending on what it wanted, it do, either a it do, like, a little lilting. Like, they do a like, and and it it it was telling what you wanted. Three. There's no three or four. Yeah.
[02:28:10] allen marcus:
So if someone subscribes to the Benjamin Balderson channel and then becomes a member of the bell Benjamin Balderson channel, are there going to be some private wolf whistle lesson videos that are members only? Some private what? Wolf whistle videos where you teach different quail calls and duck calls and duck dynasty. You take over the duck dynasty with some Dove is the only one that I'm pretty efficient at. Cuckoo. I'm pretty good at dove calls. Cooing
[02:28:36] Unknown:
sounds? Yeah. The dove one, you do this you do this Ben did a lot of time in prison, so his dove call is you draw a set. So
[02:28:49] allen marcus:
I'm thinking of the minuscule lottery.
[02:28:53] Unknown:
The the the dogs are answering the the the call. Yeah. The dogs the dogs got it. They they they were like They're like, fuck. There's a dove. Our our mortal enemy.
[02:29:05] allen marcus:
Well, Thanksgiving is quickly approaching.
[02:29:08] Unknown:
My old boss my old boss Blue was a a turkey collar, like a world champion turkey collar and a turkey guide. Like, they used to fly him out to go do turkey hunts, and he'd call him in. We'd be at work. We'd drive by on from his house to load up in Ben Lomond, drive out to this job in, like, Zion. And on the way, half the time, we'd see the pass by a whole bunch of fucking wild turkeys. And we get to the job, and he just and for whatever the fuck it it is. And I swear to God, twenty five minutes later, he just randomly and fucking within a half an hour, they just start coming up the driveway. Wow. Like, you don't have these fuckers to them. And then we're like, oh, we can't even shoot them. Meat sure meat. The lady that owns this property, we get super mad at us if we just slaughtered a bunch of fucking turkey. Knowing goddamn well, there's a couple of guns in the truck. Like, we could have you know? You take one for dinner. Really easy.
[02:30:18] allen marcus:
Yeah. Take one for dinner.
[02:30:21] Unknown:
Christy had this this little fucking, flock of white turkeys, and, she called them her protectors because they really would. They'd run around and chase garter they were her guard turkeys. Mhmm. And there were these they they were these white ones. And I used to walk outside, and when they would sit in front of the porch here and wait for Christy all the time. And I'd walk outside, and I'd look at this just jet this little fucking flock of white turkeys, and I'd yell, white power. They're fucking made me laugh so hard.
[02:30:57] Unknown:
You can't make jokes like that in Colorado anymore. Two hours. No. Thirty minutes. Trust me. I know. Clip it. Okay.
[02:31:05] allen marcus:
Clip it. Oh, fuck. That would make me laugh. Send that to send that to Dusty.
[02:31:10] Unknown:
What power?
[02:31:11] allen marcus:
Can we talk a little bit about Dusty for a moment? I mean, if you were to, it's it's years old. How how big of a how big of a bully Dusty is on some open panels sometimes?
[02:31:22] Unknown:
Are are you referring to the after panel where he The powdered
[02:31:26] allen marcus:
Dusty. Yes. The situation which
[02:31:32] Unknown:
was probably misunderstood by many. Well, well, Dusty's taken a position and it and he's not wrong that the right is being equally as divisive and crazy, and I brought that up during the debate even Mhmm. That you can't you can't say that, Destiny's rhetoric is, extraordinarily detrimental and divisive to society without then and then also have your whole side, including his boss, Andrew Wilson, going, this is war. Well, I know what war means. Fucking I've been to war. Get the fuck out of here. Stochastic
[02:32:10] allen marcus:
terrorism.
[02:32:12] Unknown:
I've been to war, so you can't sit there and call for war with the left. And at the same time, say that their rhetoric is divisive and harmful to cite, which I don't disagree. Their rhetoric is. I don't disagree even. Like, calling everybody a Yahtzee and, and then, calling everybody a fascist, things like that. Well, when you when that rhetoric just the year before was it's okay to it's okay to punch a Yahtzee, and then you run around calling everybody Yahtzis. Well, fuck. Like, of course, you've we can see what you're saying, but then in the same token, calling for war with the other side.
And the thing is is is one of the other points that we made was this horrible rhetoric of destinies and and a lot of other people in the affiliated with Democrats has actually pushed more people away than when it's garnered. I do agree with with Rob where he said it's it's cauterized the the base, you know, or galvanized the base. Mhmm. But, it's pushed more away. And this is the thing I've talked about with Steve for years. We're reaching that tipping point where the majority is gonna be tired of this minority because that's what it's becoming. And when they go to move the Overton window back, it's not gonna be the thirty, forty year slide that it has been to the left. It's gonna go from giantly to the left, wham o, to the right.
[02:33:51] allen marcus:
Yes. And and and Marty said that, you know, despite all the property damage and and terrible things that happened to small businesses, maybe some of those businesses were black owned. Maybe some were women owned businesses. Most probably given the areas that the business that the most destruction happened, it was probably
[02:34:09] Unknown:
if if not black, at least minority. Sure. So We can we can fairly comfortably say that almost all those businesses were minority owned. So despite the destruction to privately owned
[02:34:20] allen marcus:
minority businesses, good honest people in, cosmopolitan community that that provide interesting foods and spices and whatever they're selling. You know, they're selling have rooftop Koreans if they were all black. Right. Right? Diversity is our greatest flavor flavorful strengths, I think, is is what we're saying. We we love the cosmopolitan area. We go to the city when we wanna eat something that isn't steak and potatoes or whatever taco stand is open in, you know, Midwest somewhere. So we go to Minneapolis. We go to Saint Paul. That's where the interesting restaurants are. Many of them everything a taco stand now?
[02:34:59] Unknown:
I mean, it's either Asian or tacos. That's the only fucking
[02:35:04] allen marcus:
steak houses have closed down for some reason. There there aren't very many up here. I know about the top of the list. Because because they've slowly,
[02:35:13] Unknown:
killed off the beef industry. That that that do it. The amount of cows we have in the country shockingly fucking low. Shockingly The demand for beef is high. Skyrocketed.
[02:35:28] allen marcus:
Yes.
[02:35:29] Unknown:
Yes. This is something that we frequently talk about on AM wake up and have the best person on the planet in Texas Slim with beef initiative to do so. He grew up in the Panhandle, which is, you know, OG cattle country.
[02:35:48] Unknown:
Can't do anything else with that land.
[02:35:51] Unknown:
Right? We've spent at at this point well, Slim and I have spent, like, four years in collaboration, you know, trying to talk about this. And, yeah, herd levels at, halfway through the year are down to the lowest that they've ever been recorded in The US. It's a it's a huge problem. There are a lot of people that are downright
[02:36:20] Unknown:
downright, unwanted sexual attentiony.
[02:36:25] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:36:27] Unknown:
Like like like, when I even when I first moved to California, hay was, like, $12 or $13 a bail, and I was like, what the fucking fuck? Are you kidding me? What is wrong with you fucking people? Why would you think that a bale of hay is worth 13 $33 a bale right now? Wow. Yeah. You go down to the fucking Red Way Feed, $33 a bale. You know how many bales of fucking hay a cow eats?
[02:36:55] allen marcus:
Oh, I thought it was decoration for harvest vessels at churches where they celebrate Jesus' win. Like, what one miniature cow goes through fucking goes through three bales a week. They're for hay rights. You put them on a trailer, and the people sit on the hay bales, and they ride around. Dollars a week for one miniature cow.
[02:37:14] Unknown:
Like, that is unfeasible. Straw, bales, and hay bales. Have a giant piece of land that you have set aside for either heavy grazing all year long or have enough land that you could set aside, hey. How do you make it when you cost you a $100 a week to feed a mini cow? Mhmm.
[02:37:37] allen marcus:
Yeah.
[02:37:42] Unknown:
We just gotta make sure you got a good need for you.
[02:37:44] Unknown:
Good on that. That is just a pile of fat on the outside of the meat. Not good marbling. Lot yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[02:37:55] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Lizzo definitely not grass fed, grass finished.
[02:37:59] Unknown:
No. Yeah. No. That's what I'm saying. I'd have to bail my own hay, and I live out in the mountains. I don't have flats that big that I could even I would have to own, like, a thousand acres in order to come up with enough flatland to have spare room to to bale hay. So I've had to be bailing on my and so just it's just a nonsense system. The price of cattles went up substantially, crazy up,
[02:38:30] Unknown:
like, wildly high. Oh, at the auction house? Yeah, dude. Yeah. Alright. That's a whole that's a whole different scam. You know, I've got, like, a ground floor education in all of this over the last four years because of Slim. And, dude, it they're they're so, like Dude, I see something that we we freaking industry that quite literally fed America and helped build it and turned it into this, like, boutique thing that is damn near impossible for any small family farm to maintain. Yeah. It's the all in the name of giving it to Brazilian and Chinese manufacturers.
[02:39:22] Unknown:
Dude, three three seventy three seventy five a 100 weight, I saw at at the auction house. Three seventy five a 100 weight. Are you fucking serious here right now? Yeah.
[02:39:34] Unknown:
Yeah. And there's no processing centers. Like, you've got a shipment four and a half, six hours away
[02:39:42] Unknown:
in order to get them processed. Yeah. The one in Humboldt closed down. Mhmm.
[02:39:48] Unknown:
There's a a lady in Sonoma County that has a mobile processing center, and she'll come to your ranch, to your farm, process your cow, but, you know, it costs.
[02:40:00] allen marcus:
Oh, this is good for my horror movie. Tell me about the mobile slaughter mobile. It's mobile that moves around in the slaughter Yes. Slaughter truck can come to your house and then
[02:40:12] Unknown:
slaughter you? Got you. I mean, at the end of the day, it's no different than a deer. It's just a lot bigger. You know what I'm saying? And it and, you know, she probably has the air the air gun refrigerated? With the air gun that shoots the little bolt in the Air gun is being executed with sawzalls. Yeah. You know? But you just hang you just hang it up. The the really, the thing that you need is either a very steady a very sturdy place with a chain hoist or a forklift. You know? Well, depending on how big that that steer is or whatever. Maybe a front heavy duty forklift.
[02:40:49] allen marcus:
Yeah. I see I see far too many white teal deer prancing around. There's no threat against them. They're just prancing around all over the place. Waiting to come in contact with the Ford Explorer. Shaking
[02:41:04] Unknown:
their tails out. Grumple that new Ford Explorers. That thing and white tailed. Yeah. That new Ford Explorers.
[02:41:10] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Well, when I went up No. That's a the Jason, that's a secondary issue. The that's a downstream issue is that they're consolidated to place. That's not that's a secondary issue. The primary issue is that even forty years ago, every county in America where you raise cattle had its own processing center. Those all went away because
[02:41:42] Unknown:
mostly liberals who were like, I don't wanna live by a slaughterhouse.
[02:41:46] Unknown:
Okay. But then I actually for as much as Steve's putting some shitty voice on that, I do get. I understand it. Not just liberals. I personally would never live in a city with a slaughter plant. I understand it. To draw the worst people in the world in your city.
[02:42:03] Unknown:
But but what happened was there was mass consolidation in processing. So in order to accommodate mass consolidation and processing, there was mass consolidation in where people ranched because they didn't wanna have to take all of, you know, however many head of cattle, however many hours away to go get it processed.
[02:42:30] Unknown:
At one point in time, I was almost paying $8 a gallon for fuel here. $8 a gallon. You ain't it ain't it ain't taking you long to lose money if you're hauling a herd somewhere.
[02:42:41] Unknown:
Yeah. You I mean, the amount the the amount in time spent rounding, you know, every single head of cattle up that you wanna go process, getting them loaded up, and then the hundreds upon hundreds of dollars in fuel that you're just lighting on fire on the road to take it there. Plus, it's you have to get a hotel room for two or three days and wait until they're all processed so that you can take it back. Plus, now on your return trip, you have to have somebody else come up with a freezer truck in order to haul it so it stays fresh. So now you're paying fuel costs for two separate vehicles. Sure. You're deadheading back to your ranch, but there's the freezer truck.
Like, it's it's ridiculous.
[02:43:40] allen marcus:
Well, living in a community, you have one sacred cow. Yes. Slaughter it. And every everyone everyone eats. They bring their, different salads, a lot of mayonnaise based salads, mustard based salads. There's different categories of salads, but you go to the pig roast, and everyone just feast on the pig until there's no pig left. That's the efficient way of doing it. If that's what orthodox bros wanna do, they wanna compete against Lutheran churches for better potlucks, slaughter the animal in the morning, and then by noon, you have
[02:44:13] Unknown:
booty I mean, if if they back off on the stinky fish, they got my vote.
[02:44:20] allen marcus:
Right. I mean, they're probably not doing pig roast because, you know, kosher and pork and whatever. But, you know, beef, goat, quail, turkey, other animals, certainly. I know the big popular thing in the Midwest, especially in Minnesota, are meat raffles. People will go play bingo hoping to win meat prizes. It's very important. Oh, yeah.
[02:44:44] Unknown:
I I I wanna see the rest of this conversation where Ben window breaks as Ben flies through window. That's hilarious.
[02:44:55] allen marcus:
Tim Timoney. We have to scroll up. There's such a small window
[02:45:00] Unknown:
and a tiny, tiny fog. My cigarette, and I missed it.
[02:45:04] allen marcus:
That's alright.
[02:45:06] Unknown:
I'm hoping So real quick, dude, because Jason has a good point here. Point was a consolidation. It's about putting the poison crap in them on top of the slice of profits. If you want to avoid that, you can go to beefmaps.com and find a local rancher near you that doesn't put crap into their cattle. You can go to texasslimscuts.com, and those two places will at least show you you don't have to order through them. You don't. But what it will give you is an idea of where ranchers and producers in your community exist, and then you can go and you can have a handshake relationship with the the people who grow the food that you're gonna put in your body.
So if you can't do it yourself, there are people around you that do that. And you you almost everyone, at least in America, has the ability within twenty to 30 miles of having a handshake relationship with the people that grow and produce the food that you wanna eat.
[02:46:20] Unknown:
Right. As long as it's not like, you know, pull make it into your grocery store. The thing is is the it it's not that the it's people actually push for these regulations because people, like, go and complain. Every asshole that complains that they got salmonella and and what every other foodborne disease, they're the ones that get this regulation. We get what we ask for. And the problem is at some point in time, only the big boys can can do this regulation. Yeah. They caught so much money to get into the game that only the people who are already preexistingly rich can get into it. A perfect example of this is the cannabis community in Northern California at this point.
The the licensing and requirements are so are so fucking financially prohibitive to start out with that unless that the the big grow that I talk about that's in between me and Garberville, that's owned by this the air of the Sears Roebuck fucking corporation. Mhmm. Like, it's people like that that are growing. It drives all the mom and pops out of business, and that's all done through regulation. And so and the thing is is most people don't want to drive to the milk to the milk farm to get their milk and the cattle farm to get their cat to get their beef. I understand milk in is from cows also, but you don't usually eat too much milk cow. It's it's they're primarily milk cow, dairy or meat cows are usually meat cows.
They don't wanna drive to all these places because that's inconvenient. The supermarket is convenient. Not only is the supermarket convenient, the Super Walmart's even more convenient. I can get everything I want, my my dry goods and my fucking groceries.
[02:48:15] Unknown:
This is the the the current amount of ranchers, on beef maps right now.
[02:48:21] allen marcus:
Look at those beefy dudes. Zoom in on some of them.
[02:48:25] Unknown:
Sure. Wow. But a lot of people on the East Coast, we which is kinda surprising, but in California and, again, these are just people that signed up for the the it this does not represent the total amount of ranchers. It's just the people that that signed up through beef maps. But there are plenty. You know? It it's not like we're lacking for people who want to deliver decent freaking products.
[02:48:57] Unknown:
And and the whole thing is is this is a mutual relationship because like myself, because I don't vaccinate my cattle, I don't give them my cattle aren't grain fed. They straight up no vaccines, no medicines, no nothing. They get minerals and hay. And but because of that, I'm not allowed to to sell my cattle in a commercial way because I haven't given them the proper vaccines, haven't done all this other stuff to make sure that they're safe and did all this other shit. So unless you guys go to people like this and purchase the cattle, they can't sell they can't sell their beef.
So this is this is what forces them to be small and obscure because they don't get enough customers. They're like the WNBA. Right? Just not enough of a fan base to support the industry. So if you guys want that, you have to actually go get that. You have to actually get your beef from a local provider, and then that will start supporting them. And while you're never gonna go get it in a grocery store, you will empower them to start growing and being able to supply you with quality food.
[02:50:20] allen marcus:
And George Floyd made grocery stores worse for society.
[02:50:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Fuck the farmers markets. Yeah. That's why I didn't even talk about the farmers markets. Go to the farm. The farmers markets, they're all rammed by some fucking queen karen, and she's out there to force out force every stupid libtard rule you could imagine. And they charge a freaking ass ton. Like, where I'm from, when it comes harvest season, you just see guys on the side of the road in the back of their pickups with with fucking vegetables jammed in the back. Like, screw that. Cows are wonderful. We do all need cows.
[02:51:03] allen marcus:
The farmer's market has to get a license in the Chamber of Commerce, and there's so much involved with it. And then they have operating hours too, so they they close. They have to be closed by noon if they have a license to be in the parking lot at noon, then it's gotta shut down. It's like, how can you how can you have limited hours on a farmer's market during harvest season when some people don't wake up until afternoon? If you wake up in the afternoon, you missed the farmer's market for the week. What are you gonna do?
[02:51:32] Unknown:
Wait for all the ladies that grew, like, eight tomatoes, and they're like, look. These are eight perfectly done tomatoes. I want $9 a piece for them. Like, get the fuck out of here, Karen. We're not this is a farmer's market. There ain't no farmers at the farmer's market. It's all Karens that grew fucking eight tomatoes in their backyard and want a mint Yeah. Fucking dirty pussy ass hairy armpit having hippie bitches that fucking look down their nose at you for showing up to want good food. Yeah. And they're selling three d printed dragons and other accessories
[02:52:04] allen marcus:
purchased from China. It's more of a market and less of a
[02:52:09] Unknown:
food place for farmers to sell their I agree with Hinterlands here that the regenerative movement is promising. 100%, there is. And there's really, really, really good people with some measure of influence like Joel Salatin that are pushing this thing super hard at a nationwide level. Then there's people like my friend Slim that are going all over the planet while going state to state to state to develop these handshake relationships and get people who were trying to save their farm by getting in with, you know, like Walmart or whatever going, oh, we've got locally real sustainable sustainably harvested blah blah blah blah. No. That's not what they're doing. They're just buying a brand, yanking all of your cattle, and doing whatever the fuck they want to with them after that and making you jab them up. So what,
[02:53:09] Unknown:
They're gonna be the new Tyson chicken of cows.
[02:53:12] Unknown:
That's what they're trying to do. Well, that's what JBS is trying to do as a a Brazilian mega conglomerate. And there's, like, one skinny motherfucker from, you know, the Texas Panhandle going no. No. And I got a bunch of cowboys behind me that are also going no. So I I really like, I can't say enough kind of like a buddy standoff. I was people were giving me shit last time Slim was on. They're like, oh, you're just doing an infomercial. Fuck yeah. Because you guys haven't fired your grocery store yet. It's not me.
[02:53:50] allen marcus:
Commercial.
[02:53:51] Unknown:
But wait. Not talking about while you were gone, Steve. I mean Like you you don't support these guys. These guys can't get into the grocery stores. They've made rules against it. A 100%.
[02:54:02] Unknown:
And, look, if you have to go into a grocery store, do the perimeter lap.
[02:54:08] allen marcus:
Right? Everything that's on them fucking aisles ain't for you. Well, they've changed it, Steve. They they changed it. So the first thing you see when you walk into grocery like stores are the quick meals, the the prepared stuff that's already wrapped up. And then you get the chocolates and the sugars and the cookies and the breads. So the produce section is shrinking smaller and smaller and smaller. Yep. And it's worse and worse quality.
[02:54:37] Unknown:
Yep. Really lucky where I live right now, there's a hometown market, family owned and operated since 1929. Mhmm. And fucking they do not fuck around with what they put on their shelves. They don't. And all of, you know, their meat, all of their poultry, even the very limited amount of seafood that they have, they can tell you the name of the person that raised it, the name of the person that caught it, when it came in, how long it's been there, and fucking everything that's in it before you purchase it. Like, they're really fucking good about that. Shout out to to Mill Valley Market. Like, they they they do shit right. California
[02:55:25] Unknown:
is the best place I've ever been in this country for that kind of thing. Like like, it's a really shitty expensive place to live as far as every other way, and it's shitty expensive for this. These places are not cheap. But, the quality of food that we get that we have available to us up here and just like I just saw the comment about the Walmart and puking from the Walmart burger. The last time I got Christy, we were broke as fuck, and I got Christy some meat from Winco, and she said, don't even get me that. Mhmm. Like, it's not worth eating. Like, she's too used to getting the Wagyu's.
Well and it doesn't even have to be, like, Wagyu. It really doesn't like, the look Well, the Wagyu she gets is also from a small farm that we're getting it direct, you know, and all that shit. So, I mean, it's American Wagyu. You know? It's a I just tease her because it's Wagyu.
[02:56:22] Unknown:
There's just there I'll fucking I'll fight anybody over this. The best cut of the cow is what they call either the Kansas City steak or the the Kansas City cut or the picanha cut.
[02:56:39] Unknown:
How do you spell picanha? P I P I picanha cut. So I actually got her a full blood picanha one, and I think she thought that was the best slice she's ever
[02:56:51] Unknown:
And hands there's rib eye, go fuck yourself.
[02:56:54] Unknown:
Okay. I Yeah. In fact, it might have even been aged full blood pecan you that shit. Yeah. New York Strip, don't care. Don't care. Bitcoin Bitcoin daddy, I'm
[02:57:04] allen marcus:
slurring for a pecan. Yeah. Cut if you could give me that Kansas City pizza. The best cut.
[02:57:11] Unknown:
I I don't I don't and and look. Try it for yourself. Mhmm. You know, no. Collette steaks are different. Cut. Colette is more than Kansas City. It's not the kind He's the guy that dated Lewis Morissette.
[02:57:24] allen marcus:
Yeah. Cut it out. The Colette guy, Dave Colette. Didn't he date Lewis Morissette? Right. He did. He did. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm here
[02:57:34] Unknown:
to remind you.
[02:57:38] allen marcus:
So Taylor Swift has a reaction to Madonna.
[02:57:42] Unknown:
All from twins. Like, I wanna I wanna do,
[02:57:47] allen marcus:
a weave with Yeah. This word salad people
[02:57:51] Unknown:
and stick this in and into metaphysical people.
[02:57:55] allen marcus:
And out of the way. The metaphysical, Kabbalistic Madonna. She's metaphysical, mystical Madonna, and she's doing a Kabbalah class, apparently. And we need to talk about that slick dissident. I'm looking at you, Chris. Let him know. Chris Miner over there passed the word on to that bunch. We need to collaborate on what is Madonna doing? You've been called out,
[02:58:21] Unknown:
slip. This isn't it. Next Tuesday, 06:00, Thunderdome. Two minute tour, one man lead. I believe so. We have a flat iron. By the way, just because his sterno knows his cuts to be yet there's a slight difference in where you cut and how you cut between a picanha and a coulette. You have the same general area from the cow, different cut. Coulette steaks are very good. I'm not trying to shit on them. I'm just saying the picanha is better. No. But I agree that it's an excellent cut. We have a a flat iron in the fridge right now. I'm a I'm a grill that shit up tomorrow.
[02:59:01] allen marcus:
Hell, yeah. Your Oregon doesn't lean left or right, then no sexy time for you boo boo barker is the hashtag. Boo boo barker.
[02:59:12] Unknown:
Are you back up from the mic while yelling? Yeah. You're supposed to
[02:59:17] Unknown:
if you're if you're gonna project, you wanna you wanna go ahead and give, like, a full full mic.
[02:59:22] allen marcus:
Maybe two. That's a black phallus.
[02:59:25] Unknown:
Apparently, that's No. I Yeah. No, dude. We had a we had a great flank steak last week. We got a flat iron in the fridge
[02:59:33] Unknown:
right now that I'm gonna cook up tomorrow. Everybody everybody look at the thing you you accidentally saw, Christie. Look. Look at the bright light. Yep.
[02:59:43] allen marcus:
Flash. Reset. Okay. Pull your titties out. Put them back away. Okay. Everyone
[02:59:51] Unknown:
has been reset. My wife's titties are not out. The mystical
[02:59:54] allen marcus:
Madonna, a kabbalistic
[02:59:56] Unknown:
thread to untangle. Her titties route, I would not be able to concentrate on the show. She's a ray of light,
[03:00:03] allen marcus:
this Madonna,
[03:00:04] Unknown:
this virginal, like, a rare singer. Route, I would be puking.
[03:00:10] allen marcus:
Yes. She's leading a course at the Ka'Bala Center.
[03:00:17] Unknown:
Oh. Even when she was in that weird, sexy movie where they tried to do, like, during the basic instinct era when they were making, like, ultra sexualized, racy, b and d, s and m type things Yeah. On in, movies, and they showed her body in that. Rosie O'Donnell did one of those.
[03:00:40] Unknown:
Rosey O'Donnell. Road to Wellville. Calm down. Rosie O'Donnell
[03:00:45] allen marcus:
wore the,
[03:00:46] Unknown:
the the Oh, god. Now I gotta do this thing on my own head to get that out.
[03:00:52] Unknown:
So if you take a flank steak, Tom, and you slice it in half longways, it turns into a skirt steak, basically. Skirt steak. Because your your flank steaks are about, like, an inch and a half inch thick. Slice them long ways, and then you've got four giant pieces of skirt steak.
[03:01:17] Unknown:
When are you coming up here to to cook some meat and teach me things?
[03:01:24] Unknown:
Yeah. That's the shitter for Christy. She doesn't know how to cook very well on the meat, and then she's the one who eats the meat.
[03:01:32] allen marcus:
So we'll get a mobile processing center vehicle.
[03:01:36] Unknown:
We will drive it Terry and I ain't cooking your meat. Almost, Christy, almost everything in a cast iron as long as you get it super hot and throw a little avocado oil. Almost every cook time is between four and a half to five minutes a side. Flip that shit and then tint it under some foil or something like that for about four or five more minutes. Foil in our house? A lid. A lid. Works well. Yeah. Tint it. Just any any sort of covering over it. Let it let it continue to cook.
[03:02:06] Unknown:
We used it all up on our hats. He wasn't even talking. That was Marcus. Avocado oil. Fucking steaks. He only eats fish out of a bay. Oh, no. Yeah. No. If it doesn't come in a can
[03:02:21] allen marcus:
and say pickled herring, Marcus doesn't care. In a jar. I prefer pickled herring from a glass jar. Okay. Well, that's fair, but you're a stock. Sometimes it comes in a party bucket. It's the red bucket. I like the square size because it fits in the refrigerator tray just so if it's a circle, it takes up less spice. So it's more efficient to be a square bucket to put the herring in in the party bucket, pickled herring. I saw on the shelf Pickled party bucket? Eggnog. Are you guys ready for eggnog season?
[03:02:52] Unknown:
Actually, the the Strauss,
[03:02:54] Unknown:
dairy company up here, which is just a small local dairy.
[03:02:58] Unknown:
It is. I you keep the is awesome. They do fantastic. Yeah.
[03:03:04] Unknown:
Yeah. Freaking, the Strauss is just this and their their products are just amazing, and they put out an eggnog that is really fucking good. Dude, their their heavy whipping cream, the Strauss farm for your coffee.
[03:03:18] Unknown:
Oh, dude. Fuck it. Forget about it. Oh, it's it's phenomenal.
[03:03:23] Unknown:
Yeah. Dude, like, Strauss, if you leave it out and and you forget about it for a few days, it turns into cheese. It doesn't turn into rot. Yeah. You're like
[03:03:34] allen marcus:
I I left my thin mint, my thin mint whip it out of the refrigerator. I hope it doesn't turn into chocolate cheese mush.
[03:03:43] Unknown:
Dude, and Strauss ice cream? Holy fuck. We take we take Strauss. I I like to get Strauss chocolate milk and fucking pour it over Strauss ice cream and make a little milkshake with it, like some cookies and cream, Strauss ice cream. Holy fuck. That is so good. So, so good.
[03:04:02] allen marcus:
Cookies and cream is a non racist way to describe an Oreo, by the way. It's the same flavor.
[03:04:07] Unknown:
Yeah. I didn't like egg eggnog either until I tried Strauss's eggnog, and they're again, this dairy company is hands down better than any other dairy company I've ever fucking dealt with.
[03:04:25] allen marcus:
What we're talking about tonight is the original version of the thing tastes so much better than the lowest price. What's the word? It it it it not intimidates, it imitates the imitation product. The imitation product that is labeled as egg nog is an eggnog like product, but it might not contain egg or nog, but together it resembles that. I was trying to pull out an example from the other day where I purchased something. Oh, poutine. I went to a restaurant. I saw poutine on the menu, and against my better judgment, I just said I will take the poutine. When I received the poutine, it had the ingredients, some ingredients of poutine, which is sliced potato, cheese curd, and a gravy.
It contained all three ingredients, but they were frozen and breaded cheese curds, overcooked, French fries from the Sysco truck from a bag, and then gravy from a can poured over it. So it resembled poutine with the ingredients. It was an imitation of poutine, but it was not the poutine experience, certainly. But it was poutine on the menu, and I ordered poutine. I got poutine. It wasn't the poutine I imagined.
[03:06:09] Unknown:
But it was the poutine you got. The poutine I got. Yeah. And that's a life lesson, kids. Sometimes most of the time, it's not the poutine you imagine. It's the poutine you get. It's the poutine you get. So you might as well put it in your mouth.
[03:06:25] allen marcus:
Put it in my mouth. It's going daddy. Where are you? You weren't chatted earlier.
[03:06:32] Unknown:
Well, it's been three hours, gents. I don't know about you, but, I have I have.
[03:06:40] allen marcus:
I've I've been properly debriefed. So we we discussed, two debates that happened on a Sunday night and a Monday night. We called out some other people tonight to maybe debate another Tuesday night. Madonna, Kabbalah, Tron movie, whatever topic. Well, pick a topic. Just show up, and let's talk about it on a Tuesday night. The return to the more deliberation format, perhaps less of the actual debate as,
[03:07:09] Unknown:
people seem to be frightened of you two gentlemen, not wanting to engage. Say, I don't imagine that we're going to be getting many invites from that. Right. However, I do think we're we're both going to be welcomed back on the Sarah Tomato program. Yes. For sure. We we were we were gentlemen, and we were scholars, and we brought the funny. And we didn't make the whole thing devolve into a pitchier and pitchier screening match where nobody actually got a word in.
[03:07:45] allen marcus:
Rob started out as, like, what maybe a a treble voice and ended up as a what's higher than soprano? Mezzo. Mezzo soprano? I see. One. I can't remember. There were some choir comments in chat. I appreciated those who showed up and supported our dogs in chat. That was wonderful. I I I don't see that. Well, okay. We could probably review Rob's channel. May you know, you could go over to Rob's channel, his stream of the debate from from Monday night. Probably don't wanna argue with whatever people support him. There's no change in their minds. But certainly go to the Ragin' Tomato and bomb that comment section with love and affection for the dogs.
[03:08:30] Unknown:
Right? If you love your dogs, if you're down for your dogs, if you're here for your dogs Yeah. Go bark for your dogs.
[03:08:39] Unknown:
Let them know. We're gonna try and get more, debates set up. Some of these side debates, depending on what they are, we're gonna put in the members only, and it's gonna be, for, folks like,
[03:08:58] allen marcus:
Linds? Did Linds subscribe tonight?
[03:09:01] Unknown:
Yep. Linds showed up tonight, and Stella moved. It wasn't while I was we were on air, but, like, Linds and Stella and James Maiden.
[03:09:10] allen marcus:
Yeah.
[03:09:11] Unknown:
And Tony Coriolis. Tony Coriolis. Alright. So we're gonna put some of those on there because we're gonna start that's one of the big things and part of why Steve and I took that debate was just to start getting our name in the hat. That's that's the first big fight. Honestly and and and the and we needed more low level debates because no matter how good a speaker Steve and I were, prior to this, speaking is entirely different than debating. Yeah. It's got a different tempo. It's got a different way you present things. When you guys watch the debate, we had four minute openers. There's four speakers plus the moderator's gonna speak some, and there's gonna be some transfer time. So four times four is sixteen, you've already lost twenty five minutes effectively out of a two hour debate just by just by that.
And if you do a second round, you're already most of the debate is gone. So you've got four minutes to try and do what Steve and I normally would have did in a one to three hour show and had the time to really, get out the nuance on your points. Where here, you've gotta truncate it down. You've gotta like, look at how brilliant fucking Steve's opener was. Like, this is that's that's taking your points and and shredding them down to the very bare minimum and finding the things that really hit. Is it a nuanced way to do it in a in a complete picture of things? No. No. But it can't be. It can't be in that duration that you have to do it. So it's a different way than Steve and I and Marcus are used to speaking. So we need some lower level debates out the gate just because we might even be. I can feel all day, especially when you get to these better debaters like Andrew Wilson. Mhmm. Absolutely. I feel like I can defeat him in a debate. I I and that's fine, and I'm sure most people do.
We all we all feel like we'd be good at whatever sport we're watching on TV also. If you don't go try it out a couple times, you know, you could think jujitsu is easy until somebody has you tied in a pretzel and crying. Like, so
[03:11:32] allen marcus:
That sounds fun. Why do I sign up? A few times. Tie me up like a pretzel Bitcoin daddy.
[03:11:39] Unknown:
There's plenty of bars in New York. And
[03:11:42] allen marcus:
mustard.
[03:11:44] Unknown:
There are.
[03:11:45] Unknown:
So go back and watch, We have the debate aired on and Steve put it on his rumble, and it was on my u on my YouTube, the debate from last night. I think that, you know, there wasn't much pressure applied to us, so it wasn't a complete test. But, Steve and I, I think, did very well on the technical aspect of debating. The, and then Marcus is gonna get the debate from, from Vibe's channel if you haven't seen it over there. And if not, go check out Vibe. Vibe's been on the channel. He's a great guy. I should pull it on the link and find it for you guys. How many Bitcoins to tie you up to guarantee that, you know, you better go with three because I don't know if somebody else might come at the two. And now we're talking bidding war. You you better probably put in the three Bitcoins.
That's that's gonna be important. And then at that, then it's not our it's not our business anymore. Our only place, I know they'll be talking about it on on the after show.
[03:12:54] Unknown:
Real quick before we bounce, Sunday, while Ben was debating religion with, I don't know, some bitch named Beth, I I was on the Grand Theft World podcast. Richard Grove asked me a very specific question about, like, the the comedy on AM wake up. And, I I did say that my Wednesday cohost tomorrow morning, T Snyder, is is a much more serious and intellectual individual. And so the comedy that normally occurs Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday doesn't necessarily occur on Wednesday, but it is a a fascinating, enlightening, and invigorating conversation. T's, got yes, please. Do that. Yes, please.
T's got very, very talked about this. Sent me a text message all in real time saying, I demand that, you make the thumbnail before Wednesday's show say only comedy allowed. So apparently, Tisa is going to attempt to bring the funny tomorrow. I don't know. We'll we'll see. We'll see. But I did create a thumbnail today that I hope reflects this.
[03:14:32] allen marcus:
Oh, wow. Yeah. I see.
[03:14:35] Unknown:
Yeah. In in that, it is There will be fans. More or less direct rip off of the OnlyFans logo font
[03:14:44] Unknown:
except for I inverted the wall. Have known that. I actually did not get the joke until again, like that joke, you know, that you explained, like, oh. That's an emoji. There's a face on that lock.
[03:14:56] Unknown:
Well, if you if you Google the, you know, if you Google the, the image for the OnlyFans logo, it is a a lock. I inverted it. I turned it into a smiley face. The background for it hang on. Not done. Background for it is from an advertisement for the Riyadh Comedy Festival where all of the Saudi Arabian head shoppers paid a bunch of freaking millionaire hacks to go do stand up in in front of them, and they're, you know, waving scimitars or whatever you do when you go to Saudi Arabia. Crossover on that and comedians and how close comedians are to UFC fighters, and UFC fighters also regularly going over to entertain
[03:15:47] Unknown:
same set people.
[03:15:49] Unknown:
So I sent it to, and he was like, no. I hate it. Do better. I'm like, no, dude.
[03:15:55] allen marcus:
If you laugh, you lose on Wednesday morning.
[03:16:00] Unknown:
Hey. I'm I'm sorry, dude. It's done. And if you want me to do better, you we're gonna have to find somebody to pay me. I'm doing this on my own time.
[03:16:11] Unknown:
That's any wonderful solution. Logo because I'm scared to because there's been times that Marcus said something and I looked it up and now and then I have porn on my phone for a new Just don't look up lemon party, and you'll be fine. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. And then once you do make that mistake, it's not like the mistake is Well, you have to be keywords. Oh my god. When I looked it up, I typed in OnlyFans
[03:16:33] Unknown:
logo and then hit the the image search, and it gave me search on. Yeah. All all of that. Because it's a pay to play for, I don't know, random whores thing. They don't actually put the random whores into the Google's when you look it up. They only give you the logo, which I felt was incredibly safe and did not feel like I would be violating any of the covenants of my own relationship or my own morality. Yeah.
[03:17:09] allen marcus:
What's that cut of meat? Picanha?
[03:17:11] Unknown:
Pichana, p I c h a n a. Picanha.
[03:17:15] Unknown:
Yeah. I think Christy got this one that was, like, twenty days aged and then also full blood. Yeah. And she said that it was the best piece of meat she's ever had. So good.
[03:17:27] Unknown:
So good.
[03:17:28] Unknown:
Yeah. That aging makes it much softer, and she got she don't die. Her teeth are bad, so that that that's a important factor for her. There's a a spot in San Francisco called the house of prime rib,
[03:17:42] Unknown:
and that's basically all they do. Just dusting what's there. Everything they're putting on your table, at least thirty days to thirty to thirty five days aged. Wow. Full blood. Absolutely. I mean, dude, it you put it on your tongue, and it dissolves like it's a fucking hit of acid. It is Yeah. I don't know about you. Beautiful. Ugh. Butter.
[03:18:08] Unknown:
She she said like butter, she doesn't know about the acid part. Oh, dude. House prime rib is bullshit.
[03:18:15] Unknown:
I used to work with a guy who, before he moved down to the Santa Cruz Mountains, had managed there and left on very good terms with the owner and all that kind of shit. The owner used to call him every year during fleet week. Hey, Dylan. Come up and hang out in my fucking apartment. We can watch a blue angels fly by and all that kind of shit. You know? Like, very nice fella. And so a a couple of times a year while I was working with him, we would go up there and just, you know, grab dinner, shit, fucking hang out. David Byrne from the Talking Heads,
[03:18:55] allen marcus:
That's his favorite restaurant. Burn it down that road.
[03:18:59] Unknown:
Sitting at the bar, we shared a meal on a couple of different occasions, shared a meal, sat like a seat away from David Byrne. It just did. I had a general casual conversation with this totally weird, enigmatic, fucking super genius musician. And nobody really was like, oh my god. You're David Byrne. You know? Because what's he gonna be like, oh my god. You guys are a bunch of fucking derelict carpenters. You know? Why are you here? Yeah. No. We're just, you know, hanging out and sharing a meal together. Really cool. Really cool.
[03:19:36] Unknown:
Kurt, we just used to gamble at Mystic Lake Casino. And when I was young, he he he liked playing blackjack there. And as long as you didn't act like an asshole, he was cool with hanging out with you.
[03:19:48] Unknown:
Yeah.
[03:19:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Which is, you know, pretty par for the course for most people. You don't act like an asshole. Most people are okay with hanging out with you. Yeah.
[03:20:00] Unknown:
Yeah. I've had numerous, more famous friends and it's same thing because I don't get all worked up because they're famous. Like Yeah. You're good at your job. So is Bob over there.
[03:20:14] allen marcus:
Oh my god. Yeah. Builder? The the the guy from Nickelodeon? Does Atlanta mean to you? Bob do you know Bob the builder? We can build it. Yes. We can. Do you know do you know Dora the Explorer too?
[03:20:23] Unknown:
Alright. My daughter, my youngest daughter was very much into Dora the Explorer, and then
[03:20:30] allen marcus:
her brother Ben was like, we're not having any illegals in my house. Get this shit off my TV. It's it's amazing it's amazing the cultural references. I said you need to explore your own country, you little bitch. What? Dude, I think Ben knows more Yu Gi Oh cards than I do, so he's got that on me. I definitely I some guy on that panel that the other night was like,
[03:20:51] Unknown:
was like, what? Because I call it because I called it out. I seen his his little icon was a picture of the inside of a Yu Gi Oh card. Yeah. I've got I played Yu Gi Oh with my son for, for a number of years. And just like when he just like we I never played the Pokemon one, but I I seen it, and I watched his cartoons with him and shit. And so, yeah, I know, like, most of the Pokemon. Yeah. It's just I got a good memory. It was just the the unpredictability
[03:21:20] allen marcus:
of the topics that you're able to discuss is so overwhelming to some people. Those people that tend to stick to their scripts, and they and they they can't veer out of the lanes and go off road and explore the territory. The the point of the deliberations and the debates has been to get into exploratory mode and get out of the
[03:21:42] Unknown:
Well, like Steve said, that was Steve's point, though, that these fuckers are just chronically online. And the online world and online drama is what they've made into their world when all reality, if I walk downtown Garberville, 99 out of a 100 people would have no idea who Destiny was. And that one person would think that it was a stripper that it stopped down at the local strip club, you know, a couple months ago.
[03:22:10] Unknown:
Yeah. No. They're all just they're they're so locked into the unreal world they created that they can't leave it. But I I gotta drop out. You guys are more than welcome to go on as long as you want to. We're good. We're gonna we're gonna close it to This is our third day of content in a row. It's a lot of content. Gotta get the first day out, but he'll get it out, guys.
[03:22:34] allen marcus:
Someone's asking for the the link.
[03:22:36] Unknown:
For the members, it will be out first. When he puts it out, we'll make it members only first. And, Yeah. We should be able to do that. Do that for the members, I think. Probably make it for members only for a week. And then
[03:22:51] allen marcus:
Yeah. We, we are we we could plan to do that on a Tuesday night where we open the panel up to anyone who wants to join our StreamYard. That would be alright. You wanna do that, like, maybe once every month or six weeks or something? Sure. I think, so long as we're able to announce it ahead of time so people are able to shower, floss, brush their teeth, swallow all the food in their cheeks, Rob Knorr, and Marte can make sure that he's not storing it up for the minute.
[03:23:22] Unknown:
You know, I understand for him. It's his I understand.
[03:23:26] allen marcus:
I I understand. You know, as far as how handicap accessible will make the the chat, I don't I don't know how we'll have to tailor that to everyone's special needs according to their purpose, but we will let you know when the the room is open. I don't think next week, but, maybe a Halloween party, you guys wanna have a costume contest so everyone can dress up and have crazy costumes on camera?
[03:23:51] Unknown:
Maybe that'll be a good time. Whoever whoever comes in as, Laura Loomer as Jigsaw gets a free AM wake up T shirt. Okay. There's a challenge.
[03:24:04] allen marcus:
There it is. We'll check the calendar to see. No. You're alright. Halloween's on a Friday. Let's say, Tuesday, the twenty eighth before Halloween. Okay. Because the one after that is election day, and that'll be a different Tuesday topic. So caution contest, open panel, twenty eighth. That'll be our Tuesday event. There you go.
[03:24:25] Unknown:
There you go. So, Grady, it sounds like we're already giving you enough. You need to start throwing some Bitcoins anyways.
[03:24:31] Unknown:
It's true. It's true. If you are the crypto daddy, cough up in Bitcoins. At 2AM, I have certain expectations for Or at bunch of the independent media token because that helps everybody.
[03:24:46] allen marcus:
Thank you, great white pope. Thank you, Ryan Bradley. Thank you, Ryan, Stella Moon. We is out. 20 Corielis.
[03:24:56] Unknown:
Yep. Take care, folks. Thanks for hanging out. We'll see you next week.
Who are you guys? Where are you, dude? You're metal, dude. Dude, dude.
[00:00:10] Unknown:
Dude, dude. Dude, dude. Dude, dude. Dude, dude. Dude, dude. Dude, dude. Dude, dude. Dude, dude. Dude, dude. Dude, dude. Dude, dude. Dude, dude. Dude, dude.
[00:00:19] Unknown:
Delivery dogfish. Delivery dogfish. I'm the dude. Nine, thirty
[00:00:49] Unknown:
Three, two, 1, fight.
[00:00:54] Unknown:
Oh, you guys. Where are you, dude?
[00:01:02] allen marcus:
Hello? Tonight's stream brought to us by is that say Bena Bena Drill?
[00:01:09] Unknown:
We are so excited to announce tonight's new sponsor.
[00:01:18] allen marcus:
Our sponsor tonight is going to be an ad read by the Ozempic god of war. His name is Thor. He is Viking. Viking. He's a Viking. Do you want me to bring up the do you want me to bring up the clip? Are you Wayne or are you Garth in this situation? Like, I Stop. I know we told that we told that joke on our stream when Wayne McCroy joined us. So we were we were all Wayne in that situation. And We are all And last night was the the culmination of many months of badgering and begging and pleading anyone to come and debate us and accepting every debate that we were invited to, and now we gotta talk about it.
[00:02:13] Unknown:
Oh, I'm on a bed. I was on a bender. I did a couple debates back to back all night, and I am whooped.
[00:02:21] allen marcus:
What the hell you did that for?
[00:02:24] Unknown:
Well, as you said, we're trying to get up our build up our debate. You gotta you gotta take your lumps, and you gotta you gotta get yourself out there. And then you then you start getting getting the thing, and so we gotta get ourselves out there and take the lumps and give out some lumps and Bubba, stop, dude.
[00:02:46] allen marcus:
Lumps are those lovely lady bumps? What what is a lump? Yeah.
[00:02:52] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Marte has lovely lovely lady bumps. And he greases them up.
[00:03:00] Unknown:
They're shiny. Hey, man. Don't pick on Marte. He had a he had a condition yesterday that he was trying to treat. Yeah. Allergies? Is he is he allergic
[00:03:12] allen marcus:
to masculinity? I couldn't figure out what the allergy what was the need for Benadryl? He's allergic. Good arguments. Okay. Alright. So when Marte took Dibenadryl, it should have been Rob taking the thing to slow him down and and put him at human speed. He was he was talking at superhuman speed thinking he was public and Superman.
[00:03:45] Unknown:
You can always tell the people that don't really have a good argument when they're talking at Ben Shapiro's speed and saying fucking nothing.
[00:03:57] allen marcus:
So if you had an entry theme song, it would be We were talking about a him and a destiny debate recently,
[00:04:03] Unknown:
and destiny also talks extraordinarily fast. I wonder, like, if you put that their debate on double. I I've not seen it, but if you played it and then put it on double, I gotta wonder what that sounds like. Like, just probably actually get, like, memes to come out. If you took a the Chipmunks Christmas album Mhmm.
[00:04:22] Unknown:
And then just, like, scratched it backwards.
[00:04:26] allen marcus:
So who is this Who is the stripper named Destiny?
[00:04:36] Unknown:
I mean, half of them. I don't know. Let's call up Shotgun Willy's right now. Hey. Can I speak to Destiny? And they'll be like, which one? Crystal blue hair. They'd be like, which one? Which one? The one with the eye bruises. Which one?
[00:04:51] allen marcus:
Savannah Destiny,
[00:04:54] Unknown:
Laquisha Destiny. What flavor of Destiny do you want, sir? That's the one that's gacked out. Which one? The gacked out. Oh, the one that you need to call herself Mercedes.
[00:05:03] Unknown:
Alright. You're gonna have to be way more specific. Jesus, dude. Who do you wanna talk to?
[00:05:10] allen marcus:
The one named after the whiskey drink.
[00:05:15] Unknown:
Oh, Tennessee, Destiny. Tennessee. Oh, she doesn't work on Tuesdays.
[00:05:19] allen marcus:
Okay. She's off on Tuesdays. Alright. Alright. Well, I guess we'll have to do it on Wednesday then.
[00:05:28] Unknown:
Okay. Hey, Roland. We have to do in case you asked me last night is that Ben and I were on, Sarah, the raging tomatoes channel. We were, debating
[00:05:41] Unknown:
Rob Arnar
[00:05:42] Unknown:
Nerd. And, and Marte. Who's been on this show?
[00:05:47] allen marcus:
Courageously has been on this show. And courageously, courageously
[00:05:53] Unknown:
fought again. And look, it was a very goofy prompt.
[00:05:58] allen marcus:
What was the prompt?
[00:06:01] Unknown:
It was definitely a goofy prompt. Keen? You know, the the prompt was who's worse for society, George Floyd or destiny? Worded in a way that our opponents really tried to hone in on, but failed to in every aspect of it. And that's okay. It's okay if they're failures. We're not mad at them for that or for not being able to prepare an argument that was beyond a, you know, second grade reading level for mouth breathing liberals. We're not mad at them for that. In fact, we thank them for that because it made our job so much easier
[00:06:43] Unknown:
and way more fun. Yeah. When you cut when you come in prepared to to to box to the box of a retarded child and and and find a beast standing there, it just sucks for you. You didn't train right. Yeah.
[00:06:59] allen marcus:
And said by the hollow purse perspective that it was, like, arguing with stomach cancer about whether or not kidney cancer is worse than my liver cancer.
[00:07:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was a funny comment.
[00:07:13] Unknown:
Hilarious debate, Brock. Both horrible people. Continue to talk. As far as I'm concerned, though, they you know, I we can only be so proud because they definitely took a prop. I don't see how they could've won. Like, you would've had to have been
[00:07:27] Unknown:
fighting retarded liberals to make to win that. What what you what you would have had to have had is the totally disingenuous argument that they tried to bring where you can only incorporate one element of a person and you have to ignore everything else. In order for their thing to fit, like, they had to have their cake, eat it too, which again I know is what Rob is used to. But in ordinary circumstances, like, real conversations don't work that way. So within the confines of YouTube debate, they really did probably think that they could walk in and stomp out anyone with, you know, subpar, rudimentary thinking skills or the same type of just complete surface level narrative believing goons that those two guys are.
And that's not the conversation that they got into. That's not the debate they had.
[00:08:26] Unknown:
No. And it did not go well.
[00:08:28] allen marcus:
Do you believe that Rob truly believes everything he said last night, or was he speaking to his narrow defined
[00:08:38] Unknown:
audience in terms that they would understand? I don't know Rob well enough to make that determination, to be honest with you. I really don't. I the my first, like, actual real encounter with the dude was I think it was on a a panel with him for, like, five minutes once.
[00:08:53] allen marcus:
Okay. And you were interacting on Twitter x with him a little bit?
[00:08:59] Unknown:
Sort of. But yeah. Yeah.
[00:09:03] allen marcus:
Okay. Because that's where I started following him and then seeing his streams. And on his streams, it's a lot of solo soliloquies where he's just talking and talking and talking at a more relaxed pace. But now when there's other people on the panel and there's a question and there's a beat and a moment of silence, he filled in every moment of silence with more words. And the more words that came out of his mouth required more words to explain the words he just said as he was drowning in his own drool because he never stopped to take a breath.
And I think, someone in our comments was saying, he's inward breathing. So he's breathing in as he's seething and speaking and then continue to speak, so he never ran out of breath because he was always on his shallow breath. But in choir, that's a technique to continue singing and holding and sustaining a note for much longer than absolutely humanly necessary.
[00:10:07] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean, hey. Let's, you know, give him credit. Dude, obviously, has an expansive lung capacity.
[00:10:15] Unknown:
Amazing. It's amazing. I'm gonna go Jesse Lee Peterson with it. Amazing. Amazing.
[00:10:24] Unknown:
Amazing.
[00:10:27] Unknown:
What's up, James? Oh, James might come visit with us in a bit. If he gets done if he gets his work done in time Yeah. To eat his supper. Remember, you gotta eat your vegetables too, James. Not just not you you gotta eat all of it, the broccoli too.
[00:10:45] allen marcus:
I was trying to get in touch with a Ben Carson. Is that car is the son of a who is Ben Carson, and why was his name coming out his mouth so much last night? Well, I I I he was trying to,
[00:11:00] Unknown:
set up a scenario, and and and that part of it was was, not a bad shot in the dark to take stop ups, you loud mouth shit. They were well behaved last night. They were. They were. Probably can be rowdy tonight. Yep. Yep. Everybody's everybody's like, you've been debating for days. Not Billy Carson. Ben. Like, car what he was trying to do was set up a scenario where, he he was trying to make it out like, you're blaming him because he's a bad guy, but had that Ben Carson who, is basically outside of also being black, probably as opposite from Floyd George Floyd as you can get.
He's a he can serve he's conservative, ran for Republican president one year. He's a doctor, Mhmm. A highly regarded doctor as a matter of fact. And when you say regarded, you mean regarded and not a slur word? I am. Highly regarded. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. No. I believe that there's procedures that he invented that they use across the country. Like, he's a highly regarded doctor. Yeah. He's a brain surgeon.
[00:12:14] Unknown:
Yeah. Cuba Gooding Junior played him in a movie.
[00:12:19] Unknown:
I did not know that. I that now I understand that reference. I was like, when you were saying it, I was just like, don't I don't understand. But Okay. Yeah.
[00:12:28] Unknown:
Yeah. It was like a it was like these hand in these hands or healing hands or something like that was the name of the movie, and it was about Ben Carson developing some brain surgery technique or something like that. And this is a couple of years before he ran for president.
[00:12:43] Unknown:
So, I mean, so, I mean, you can see that that's an exact opposite of, guy that's running around stealing and hurting people and doing massive amounts of drugs.
[00:12:55] Unknown:
There wasn't any interest. It was just the the prompt. I I think that's what a lot of people are missing. Let let me let me go ahead and explain this real quick. Right. The prompt that we were debating last night, it just sort of, like, half ass came out of a back and forth between Ben and Marte. And I don't think that they wanted to like, I think that if given any alternative, they would have taken that. Same with us. It's just that's the prompt that we got. So, like, professionals, we went and constructed an argument in order to debate it.
And that applies to to Rob too. Marte, not so much because he was asleep the entire time. But, you know, at at least for Rob, he at least came up with, you know, a a somewhat yeah. Yeah. He came came up with a strategy. So Rob felt confident.
[00:13:57] Unknown:
That it came about was Marte made some post on x. I don't remember exactly what it said, but something about, Destiny being quick. I am not a jungle gym, dude. That's, like, the fourth time. The, something about Destiny and, how horrible they were for society. And I was like, you know, George Floyd the effect George Floyd had, which if you're gonna use the things that other people do because of that person, then you have to measure that against each other equally. So the effects from George Floyd were mass riots, you know, blah blah blah. So I and, honestly, I I didn't give a shit about the subject. I was just poking at you. Yeah. I was you we are trying we've been trying to, pick fights with Ortho Bros, and, he's the fur he's the only one that's actually, responded to the call or or showed up for the fight. He's they they most of them have responded. They just don't show up.
Chicken shits. But, so him and I just kinda give each other shit back and forth. So I was just giving him some shit, and he's like, oh, yeah. You wanna debate it? And it turned into a debate.
[00:15:16] allen marcus:
Shame and real thing.
[00:15:18] Unknown:
Yeah. It really happened. I mean, it's not like anybody, dude, anybody involved feels pass well, Rob might feel passionately about Destiny. I'm not I kinda got that right. Feels he But does certainly didn't feel passionate about George Floyd. And, you know, it the the the only argument that Marte brought was people made funny memes about George Floyd after he was dead. Well, you're mad at people for making funny memes about Charlie Kirk after he got shot, but you're, like, celebrating the people who made funny memes about George Floyd when he got fucking, you know, x ed out. Like, I I don't even understand why you would incorporate that into your argument, dude.
It Marte did a terrible job. Just across the board fundamentally terrible job. You're not funny. If you don't, if you don't like it or at least if you can't acknowledge the humanity of somebody when you're making fun of them, you're just gonna come off like a dumb fucking fool.
[00:16:33] allen marcus:
And, like, that love the man so much that you intimately know him to make fun of him in a loving way. I talk about this a lot on on Aim Wake Up. Not to acknowledge
[00:16:45] Unknown:
that in a Howard Stern manner, like, when they when that whole thing with Howard Stern where they're like, how long do the people that like him listen? No. Like, twenty minutes? How many how long do the people that hate him listen? An hour and a half? Yeah. Like, they don't realize how much they are that Yeah. For destiny. That they they've gotta listen to his every fucking word so that way they can respond to his word Where when I pulled up Destiny, my wife my wife literally thought it was Mick Foley from wrestling.
[00:17:16] Unknown:
Oh. Oh. Well, no offense to Mick Foley. Please don't come to the to Mick Foley. Please do not come beat me up. Yeah. But no. I mean, it's it's one of those things where, like like, okay, dude. I don't know these guys, so I can casually roast them. You know what I mean? It's not like it's not personal. It's not a big deal. Nothing like that. If I'm gonna do a character voice, if I'm gonna try to do an impression, it can't be somebody that I hate because then I'm just gonna look like Alec Baldwin doing Trump on Saturday Night Live, and that was terrible. Like, Alec Baldwin hates Trump.
Mhmm. He's gonna get a terrible impression. You know? Yeah. Shane Gillis doesn't hate Trump. Maybe doesn't like a bunch of stuff about him too. Doesn't necessarily vocalize it, but he doesn't hate the guy. And so he does a fantastic Trump. When I do Lindsey Graham's voice on the show, I'm not doing Lindsey Graham. I'm doing the substitute teacher from Family Guy. The that's the voice that I'm using because I love that character. It's fucking hilarious, and it applies almost perfectly with Lindsey Graham. It really does. I don't like Lindsey Graham. I couldn't do his voice.
There's no way.
[00:18:40] Unknown:
Jason, Jason, I think that was, like, I see my personal chats put that comment up, like, 12 times, 15 times. Like, who the fuck is Destiny? He's a weird blue haired, no morals shit that is totally libtarted, and he's he's big on the Internet, and he's he's jacked himself up to where he says the most outrageous things and gets attention for doing it.
[00:19:11] Unknown:
Like, it it it's all bad. Well, and that's the argument that we kept trying to, like, drill into their skulls. Sure, man. For the terminally online, for the people who never leave the fucking computer, I'm sure to you, Destiny is very serious and very evil and super important. But when you go out into the real world, like both Ben and I were saying the entire time throughout, nobody is doing anything in Destiny's name. Nobody's committing any crimes for death. Rob tried to multiple times totally disingenuously without any fucking evidence, without even a shred of evidence, tried to connect Destiny to Charlie Kirk's assassination because he was desperate and grasping for straws.
[00:19:59] allen marcus:
That that was the lowest point for me having to hear anything about Charlie Kirk. And, Marty's argument was basically
[00:20:09] Unknown:
Marty.
[00:20:11] allen marcus:
Marty.
[00:20:12] Unknown:
Marty. Party with Marty. Like Billy Ray Valentine in trading's places. Trading, but you gotta call him Marte. Marte.
[00:20:20] allen marcus:
Martha was real sleepy last night, and she was, crocheting a doily with the words, it all happens for a reason. And the whole argument was, yeah, George Floyd. It all happens for a reason. And the benefit of the bad things was the government made more laws that are gonna benefit people after the fact. So even though so much property was destroyed, looting, windows shattered, neighborhoods burnt to the ground. Martial law in the Minneapolis neighborhoods, there was people with paint guns shooting people on their porches saying curfew, get back in. That was all through June 2020.
And all those terrible things happened during the the medical period of our history, you know, where there was a concern about all of this. So on top of that, a group of people left their, seclusion. What was the word? Where you stay inside for a while? Quarantine is the word. So during quarantine time, a group of people were allowed to go and stand on bridges to stop traffic. And they all did this in the name of a figure who created
[00:21:57] Unknown:
shit, and he relubed your fucking lens. What a slick bastard.
[00:22:03] allen marcus:
Slick. So slick.
[00:22:05] Unknown:
The funniest part of that whole thing, though, was when I think it was Rob. It it was, let's see.
[00:22:19] Unknown:
I think the funniest part of the whole thing was when I told Rob that he talks too fast and that his wife must love him.
[00:22:27] allen marcus:
Well,
[00:22:28] Unknown:
the the tongue move that fast.
[00:22:30] allen marcus:
The the tongue movement comment was was beautiful. That was very well received, and he made it known that he, in fact, does have a wife. He was very proud of the fact that a guy like him has a wife.
[00:22:48] Unknown:
Yes.
[00:22:49] allen marcus:
So that was good.
[00:22:51] Unknown:
And now we know why. It wasn't for his physique.
[00:22:59] Unknown:
Well, again Well, the funniest part to me would would and Rob was just trapped in this one where where he was like, well, you would have to show that, you know, George Floyd, you know, moved more people to vote Democrat. And I was like, well, if you look at the results of that particular election, which happened just a couple of months in the wake of the George Floyd riots Oh, wait a second. Way that it was reported, Joe Biden got more votes than any person singularly in the history of ever always that ran for president. Yeah. There's a good point for you. Correlation, but this is the point you're making. And using your metrics might have disproved you to the point of the most votes in the history of ever always.
Maybe you should shut the fuck up.
[00:23:55] allen marcus:
Yeah. The election was not even discussed, and that was in the same time frame. There's a lot of things that were not brought up because they were not in favor of the prompt that needed to be argued to the tee directly and specifically without any wiggle room because there is no time to pivot. There was no time to respond to Benjamin and Steve last night. It was Rob running his mouth, losing all of the goodwill that Chad had prepared for him. And by the end of the evening, everyone was just very tired of Rob and signed a pledge to never listen to him ever again.
So it was a career ending debate for Rob. I don't know how he'll ever recover from this. He's gonna have to not stream anymore.
[00:24:57] Unknown:
I don't think that's gonna happen.
[00:25:03] allen marcus:
That was the plateau. It's all downhill from here.
[00:25:07] Unknown:
Don't jump on that.
[00:25:14] allen marcus:
The kittens won the debate last night. Fan favorites. Just being likable goes so far. And you two, gosh darn it, were so likable last night. Just wanted to Yeah. I don't know why the are
[00:25:30] Unknown:
so scared to debate us.
[00:25:33] Unknown:
Rob Rob,
[00:25:34] Unknown:
I I will give Rob. This wasn't a debate Rob was asking for. And, I don't know that it was a prompt that he would have wanted to debate. He was just, helping out. He was just agreeing to help out Marty.
[00:25:49] Unknown:
Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. I mean, I I don't think either of us wanted to necessarily debate based on that prompt. But you do you know, if somebody's like, hey. You have the opportunity to go on this show and do this and this is the thing, then you go and you do that thing, and you good. Make your best argument and see what happens.
[00:26:14] Unknown:
Yeah. You know? Lot lot of stuff from lot lot of, lot of debates on Sarah Schoach. Got a a big panel. Good way to get in and debate other people, and I thought Steve and I made a hell of a showing. I I I I, I'm not gonna be too hard on those guys. They, I I I think that, they they had a losing prompt. You know, there's no way that you can look at the effects that George Floyd had on society and that, Destiny ad has on society and compare the two in any way, shape, or form. So I'm not gonna be too hard on them. I thought they, you know, they made creative, attempts at, making the case. It just and and against other people, it might have worked.
I guess Steve and I, absolutely not. Abso fucking lutely not. You guys got zero traction. It went nowhere. They know it. We know it. The day before, just I went to the powder or went on to vibes, channel and, had a discussion about, health and the origins of health. I think it started out kinda it started out, you know, it started out like great grandma's potato salad from the Midwest with only a lit with only maybe a little salt and pepper in it. This is all mayonnaise. And I put mayonnaise in the salad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
A little zingy. And, I decided that rather than just mayonnaise that, about half an hour forty five minutes into it, I was tired of the the tasteless potato salad. So I, chucked some ghost peppers in there.
[00:28:13] allen marcus:
This is this was a a prior debate. Happened Sunday night. We talked about last night, Monday night, the Rob Knorr, Noir, I'll call him. He's the he's a mysterious guy. Rob Knorr. Like like, Pinot Noir. Pinot Noir. Sunday night was the the bible study, studying of the bible by, Baptist Vibe, who's also been on our streams here on Tuesday on dog face dudes. So Benjamin joined in to offer another perspective, and that perspective was one that caused a certain Beth to get a b under her bonnet. What was that about, Benjamin?
[00:29:06] Unknown:
Yeah. They, she very much, has some childhood fantasies of Christianity and no reality into it. And I was just smashing her with she and she says dumb shit, like, you know, like that there's historical evidence for some of these biblical stories like the Exodus. I have a question for you. Except for in Egypt, there's no history of the Exodus. That's only in the bible. I have a question.
[00:29:35] allen marcus:
Have you been inside of Israel? Have you have you been inside of it?
[00:29:43] Unknown:
I I I I I have not been in Israel. I I cannot think of a worse place to be,
[00:29:52] allen marcus:
for somebody like me. You have not seen I don't touch the wall.
[00:29:57] Unknown:
From the way I understand it, the Hebrews were slaves all over the damn place, and they never really had their own fucking land, so nobody really knows where Israel is anyways. And the the political state that was assigned to an area in Pallet inside Palestine, after, World War two, is only created and lived by through a playbook that preexists. It it there's nothing prophetic about it. They have the book, and they're living it out.
[00:30:33] Unknown:
I have been inside one once, and I did, you know, touch the back walls, but it was,
[00:30:46] Unknown:
That seems legit.
[00:30:47] Unknown:
Not really, like, memorable.
[00:30:52] allen marcus:
Did it taste like olives?
[00:30:55] Unknown:
No. No? No. No. Which is, you know, it's been because they stole the olives too. How did you know
[00:31:05] allen marcus:
what she was then? How could you verify that?
[00:31:09] Unknown:
Well, aside from the admission, I I guess I guess the only way that I could verify it Mhmm. Is that when I pulled out, there was a receipt. Well, other than that, I'm I'm not really sure.
[00:31:32] allen marcus:
Was the receipt for you or for her? It was an invoice, in fact. Yeah. You you both filed and and put in your
[00:31:39] Unknown:
Yeah. Put in your, cabinet
[00:31:41] allen marcus:
for later.
[00:31:43] Unknown:
Mhmm. Okay.
[00:31:47] allen marcus:
Wow. So, how's that?
[00:31:55] Unknown:
Couldn't I'll be here all week.
[00:31:57] allen marcus:
See, this is this is how we we breathe, and we we take breaths, and we allow for margin and space in a conversation.
[00:32:06] Unknown:
Yeah. That that that that Beth, she kept wanting to bring up old testament things, which is where hell is primarily described and dealt with. And then I I kept talking about Jews and she'd get all mad. And it's like, well, that's their book. They're the ones who wrote that shit. Like, what the fuck do you mean?
[00:32:28] Unknown:
Cooter hummus. Yeah. Avoid the cooter hummus if you can. Thank you, Jason. I hope Jason is doing well, man. Jason is a a hell of a human being, and we we love that motherfucker around here.
[00:32:43] allen marcus:
So not only do we have the best chatters, they have some of the brilliant minds of all Internet, of any Internet ever, and they're spending time with us. We're very appreciative of that. Great sense of the payment all around. You see this, by OG Pavlov's?
[00:33:06] Unknown:
Sinai was considered Africa and not Asia. Well, now Sinai is considered Israel.
[00:33:15] Unknown:
Africa
[00:33:16] Unknown:
doesn't make more sense to me. Because that's where the the Golan is. Right? Yeah. Where's that Ararat, not Sinai? Do I have my geography fucked up? We'd have to look at maps.
[00:33:29] allen marcus:
All
[00:33:30] Unknown:
I don't know. All those people from the Mediterranean are, that's that's it's bad water like the native say. Don't don't drink that water. Do you see how those people act? They're all fucked up. So I I just ignore that area for the most part.
[00:33:47] allen marcus:
So then when we got to discuss the New Testament just a little bit, they stopped even talking about the Bible at that point When the New Testament scriptures were brought up and the words of Jesus himself on the matter were were not something that we're supporting the argument, for the existence of hell, we discovered that the Bible doesn't talk about hell in the same way that pastors do. For instance, the fire and brimstone sermons that describe sinners who will spend eternity in the lake of fire forever. That's eternity.
That rhetoric was backed down upon saying that there's no biblical basis for this. Although it might be justified because the pastors are preaching from the Bible, and they're giving a a good sermon that will get people into the church and bring them to heaven. So the topic of afterlife was especially difficult to get through.
[00:34:53] Unknown:
Yeah. They they they there's a recognition, and they paid lip service to the fact that most iterations are of hell that are talked about, in today's church are primarily based on, like, Dante's Inferno. And they paid lip service to it, but I'm the only one that read the book.
[00:35:13] allen marcus:
Milton's Paradise Lost as well. Yep. In Paradise Lost. So then if you were to bring up the alphabet of Ben Sirah and describe a literature tradition of these extra biblical texts that fill in character gaps that exist in the Bible, then you say, well, the the Bible would also be part of that literature. So in understanding hell, we have to understand all of the literature that's discussed it that have given us our concepts of this idea of an afterlife where it seems to be the equal and opposite reaction to heaven. So where in heaven is paradise and beautiful, hell is the opposite of that. It's torment. It's suffering. It's a lake of fire.
It's a a hangnail. It's it's all of the it's stepping on a Lego at night trying to get to a refrigerator situate. It's all the things that you don't like in this life will be tormenting you forever in hell. That's the literature.
[00:36:19] Unknown:
Well, in in Dante's Inferno, whatever sins that you commit, basically, there's, like so it's not just one hell. There's actually two hells. One of them, there's doesn't seem to be any, way out of or retribution for. The other one, it it does. So the one, it's for people that well, but some of the people also aren't bad in it either. Like, the first level of that hell is, what they call virtuous pagans. So people that didn't do were good people and didn't do anything bad, but didn't get on their knees and and knob Jesus off or whatever, however that works. And so they they're virtual.
[00:37:05] allen marcus:
So they follow Christian virtues.
[00:37:07] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, well, it's a it's a weird mix of myth in there because also so from what I can tell, like, if you ever look at the the descriptions of Atlantis where it's concentric rings of land and then water, this was concentric rings of land and then fire, and then the center is ice. That was interesting all that's interesting also. But that the actual center hell is ice instead of fire. So heaven being a moderate
[00:37:41] allen marcus:
climate Yeah. Heaven's moderate. Quite a tropical island because moisture would be held for some people. So heaven is like a Midwestern day with a seaside a lake sorry. Lakeside breeze. 70 degrees, you can wear a thin jacket and be comfortable all all eternity.
[00:37:59] Unknown:
One of my favorite parts about that hell, the Catholic pope, there's a whole line of popes, and the one that you see is always the most recent pope. So and then then and then he rotates down to the next pope down. And so every Catholic pope goes to hell in that book. So, obviously, he wasn't a fucking Catholic. Right? And then, like, a lot of, Greek, a lot of your Greek philosophers are in there. That's they're all mentioned in that. So there's a lot of Greek stuff, including Greek kings, are in there. So it's a it's a real and as far as I can tell, the the main hell where people go that did shit that they can't undo, that hell is a mirror of Atlantis.
And so then the hell the mountain that's before Atlantis, that basically in this translates. So then the second hell is a mountain. And in that mountain, there's apparently softer sins that you can come to regret or repent from or whatever, and then angels or or whatever wipe off the there's letters on your head, and those letters represent the things that you did that are you shouldn't have done. And when you repent from them not them enough, it wipes that letter off. And and, apparently, even in that hell, they believe that the prayers of the living somehow add more weight to their atonement. So, like, they're as they're going through the mountain the whole time, everybody's begging them to pray for them.
[00:40:04] allen marcus:
We didn't get into heaven at all. So the idea that, you know, when someone dies too young, they go to heaven, and they get a halo. They get a golden Cheerio above their head and some angel wings, anthropomorphic white dove wings behind them, pure white feathers, that type of thing. We didn't get into the ridiculous
[00:40:26] Unknown:
Like, harps and wings. I would like to have wings. That'd be pretty cool. Mhmm. And harps are cool, but, you know, I like my cocking balls. The meat and potatoes, that's a bad trait
[00:40:37] allen marcus:
bad trait. The androgynous angel thing is a topic we'll have to bring up if we get into a a what is the actual heaven in terms of bible, describing it? The the biblical the holy bible, like canon, not those extra biblical things, not the book of That is not the assignment, Marcus.
[00:40:54] Unknown:
I am not a 100% familiar with it. You might be the one that's gonna have to answer your own fucking question. Steve is raised in the Christian church. My sole basis of understanding for this, though, comes from the 1995
[00:41:07] Unknown:
cinematic classic Dogma, where Alan Rickman pulls his pants down and says, almost anatomically correct as a Kindle. That's so that's what I assume all angels look like are, in fact, just Alan Rickman. Not even that they have any other body type or face or even voice. It's all just solely Alan Rickman.
[00:41:30] allen marcus:
Now now, Steve, you're using the Rob Noire argument where it's a Hollywood movie. Have you seen this movie? Have you seen this movie? I'm going to make a movie analogy that everyone will understand like a cool youth pastor. Will you take the red pill tonight, or will you take the blue pill tonight? No purple pill options.
[00:41:51] Unknown:
If my blue pastor ever addressed me is Neo, I would well, I would probably do what I did when I was in youth group, lead, go smoke a joint, and then finger bang the pastor's daughter. But yeah. But yeah. Showing I was not an exemplary young, young servant of Christ. I was not. I was in the sound booths,
[00:42:15] allen marcus:
for youth group. It was a nice place in the back, and I was the one queuing up the video clips and hitting play on them. And if it was, like, a ten minute thing, we turn the lights out, we sit and watch a movie. That was a a nice relaxing thing where people could just whisper to each other. And feel on a titty. Yeah. Yeah. Like, Jesus intended. And I think that should be promoted. I think it's great for for young men on a titty? Young women to to to to have that carnal knowledge at an early age because the the not making those developmental milestones leads to someone like Rob.
[00:42:56] Unknown:
Michael w Smith makes music for people who want to touch a side boob during worship. If Marte had gone to youth group as a young man, he wouldn't have to go to a youth group as an older man. Yeah. Well and it is questionable why he is attending youth group services at his advanced stage. But, you know, we're not here to judge. We're not. We're not.
[00:43:19] allen marcus:
So we we we can judge a little bit. I think that's I think we can Let me help you with your squats. Here's some baby oil. Where does the baby oil go? How do I apply for the position of baby oil administrator?
[00:43:36] Unknown:
Oil applyer. Can I apply for the position of baby oil applyer? Do you have It's like the dumb and dumber scene only it's flexing
[00:43:44] Unknown:
in the bus door and Mark is standing there with baby oil. Yeah. It may.
[00:43:50] Unknown:
See, if we weren't on YouTube, I could pull up the South Park, boy band. I'm gonna finger bang my way into your heart video, but we're on YouTube. Well, let's see. We can't do that. We can't have any fucking fun. I had another song. You kept calling Marche Martha, so I wanted to pull up the Mojo Nixon and Skid Roper classic stuff in Martha's muffin, but I can't because YouTube. We're handicapped here. We're restricted.
[00:44:20] Unknown:
Small
[00:44:22] allen marcus:
hats. It's okay to have a a boundary, a a a box, a a boundary to to know where the the lines are, not to cross them.
[00:44:33] Unknown:
Yeah. There's no line with Mojo Nixon. Mojo Nixon proved that.
[00:44:40] allen marcus:
Mister Mojo Risen?
[00:44:43] Unknown:
This was, in fact, mister Mojo Nixon, who also wrote the classic tie my pecker to a tree.
[00:44:50] allen marcus:
Yeah.
[00:44:51] Unknown:
That did need a song. Tie my pecker to a tree. To a tree. Tie my pecker to a tree. Yes. That's correct. Yeah. I could I I'd do well. I don't I don't know the chords, but probably
[00:45:07] allen marcus:
Does he clarify the best tree to tie a a pecker to? Maybe, like, one of those maple trees. Tap that maple tree, get some syrup. I don't think it's discussed
[00:45:18] Unknown:
specifically in the song, but I would think a a skinned birch would be probably your easiest route there.
[00:45:30] allen marcus:
That
[00:45:31] Unknown:
sounds indigenous. You don't wanna tie your pecker to a redwood. First of all, most of us can't. I mean, you know, there there are plenty of us that are blessed, but but even being blessed, getting around a redwood, that's that's a well, that's a very painful stretch.
[00:45:48] Unknown:
Yeah. And that shit's rough. Yeah. Yeah. Cory Coryolus.
[00:45:54] Unknown:
Very unforgiving bark.
[00:45:58] Unknown:
Yeah. A female tree preferably.
[00:46:03] allen marcus:
Wow. We're talking about hell tonight, and hell was five hours of Rob last night for me. I don't know how you guys did it.
[00:46:13] Unknown:
Chad, I called out early so I could get other work done and go to sleep. That was how I did it. I was gonna get mean. There was get there was a a threshold that I had reached, like, an hour and a half into it, and I was like, you know what, dude? You could maybe take the high road. You maybe could. Had Bobby Kelly in in my head. You know what, Ted? Ted? I I had yeah. They had that going on. Yeah. That maybe just maybe don't. Maybe don't. I remind other people to maybe don't all the time. I should take my own advice. I should.
[00:46:48] allen marcus:
Maybe don't. The faster Rob was speaking, the higher pitch his voice was coming out, and it was getting into that sort of, Iago, the parrot. It was a little bit of a voice actor sort of for a a Disney movie, like a like a Disney villain sound. Like a chunky Gilbert Godfried is what you're saying. Like, Gilbert
[00:47:10] Unknown:
Godfried
[00:47:12] allen marcus:
with Burger King chicken two chicken nuggets in his cheeks.
[00:47:18] Unknown:
In case he got hungry, he could swallow them. Just stores it up for later like a freaking chipmunk in the winter? Yes.
[00:47:27] allen marcus:
Yeah. He needed his food pre chewed and ready to swallow, but he never stopped talking. And he was doing the inward breathing technique where he could filibuster over his Benadryl partner. There was no tag team going on. At some point, Marty just put his hat down over his eyes and took a nap. Yeah. And, yes, handicap by choice. I have found over the years that nobody actually likes
[00:47:57] Unknown:
it when I fucking throw the gloves off onto the ice and then grab somebody by the jersey and actually pummel them. It it it it comes across as played hockey.
[00:48:10] Unknown:
They never played hockey. Okay. It comes across as bullying is what They don't they don't even know what pulling your shirt over your head means.
[00:48:18] Unknown:
Yeah. The best knot to use when one ties his pecker to a tree, I would imagine a slipknot.
[00:48:24] allen marcus:
A slipknot?
[00:48:26] Unknown:
Yeah. I would. Yeah. Yeah. You you go full bowling, it's gonna be uncomfortable on the pullout.
[00:48:34] allen marcus:
Rug burns.
[00:48:43] Unknown:
Well thought out.
[00:48:44] Unknown:
Well thought out.
[00:48:47] Unknown:
We're a thing you might have really Hey. Tunnel metal tunnel tunnel metal put it's a bonsai for me. That was smart.
[00:48:53] Unknown:
There you go. Lever, sir. There you go. Lever, sir. Hell, yeah. I can wrap it around the tree.
[00:48:58] Unknown:
Hell, yeah, baby girl. I was gonna be on
[00:49:01] allen marcus:
the pony. If you guys are still in contact with Rob, get Christy to send him some of that burn cream because he's gonna need a five
[00:49:10] Unknown:
gallon bucket of burn cream. Should do that. You guys should. You should go on his YouTube and find, like, where the PO box is or anything like that. And just, yeah, just send him a small jar of, like, a moon cell burn balm, something like that. Here you go. Burn banish. We apologize. We didn't mean to to make it that bad.
[00:49:30] allen marcus:
It didn't start out that bad. So for our listeners who have not experienced the debate yet, we'll put the time stamps in so you can get in, hear the four participants' opening lines, and then decide how much more you think you can handle because the opening lines were the beginning and the end of the debate. Yeah. It was it. It was all laid out there. The middle section of the debate was inconsequential. It it didn't go anywhere. It was not advanced. It was Ben Carson. His face on George Floyd's body. Now continue the argument, boys. What if it was presidential candidate surgeon of the brain, Ben Carson?
No description of Ben Carson. I even told him
[00:50:30] Unknown:
right up front. Like, oh, okay. Well, if my aunt had nuts, she'd be my uncle. What the fuck are we actually talking about here? Like, this is dumb, dude. Why would you say you know? Oh, this is a super smart point that I came up. No. It's not. Everybody here rejects that premise. Move on. I'm not gonna move on. No.
[00:50:49] allen marcus:
This is my point, and it's all I've got.
[00:50:54] Unknown:
Do you suck. Move. Go, dude. Go. Kick rocks. Let your little boy go. Machine gunning.
[00:51:03] allen marcus:
Rob ran out of ammunition.
[00:51:05] Unknown:
Right. And and you're fighting when you stand. No. None of us actually did that. Shut the fuck up. Well, you said no. We didn't. You're taking that. You're you're just making shit up, dude. Just stop making shit up.
[00:51:17] allen marcus:
No territory was conceded. You guys stayed in the trenches, played fair, bought fairly,
[00:51:26] Unknown:
maintained Oh, not that. By title, man. Fighting words title, man.
[00:51:30] Unknown:
Right? Hockey's a girl's game?
[00:51:33] Unknown:
Okay. And that's fighting words.
[00:51:35] Unknown:
Okay. No. No. No. Okay. Fuck it.
[00:51:41] Unknown:
And I do mean hockey style.
[00:51:43] Unknown:
Yeah.
[00:51:45] Unknown:
Yeah. That that smash into you doing 45 miles an hour on the ice and smack you into the ice and pull your shirt up over your head and use you as a fucking speed bag.
[00:51:55] Unknown:
Have you have you ever actually fought somebody where you got to, like, grab a fucking shirt and yank it over their head and just because I have. It's, like, in real life, not even on the ice, not even you know? Okay. Maybe I'm gonna get a fucking, you know, five minute major for this. Whatever. But, like, in real dude, people are so confused when you're like, Oh, the fuck? Did you really do that? Yes. I really did that. Yes. Do what did you think I was gonna fight fair? That dude's way fucking bigger than me.
[00:52:30] allen marcus:
When the temperature is cold and people are prepared for it, anything could happen. There were stories of my fourth grade after school, lots of hills. We talked with Danny Katz earlier about some of the experiences and the terms of the games that we played. What did we refer to the game as? Smear what rhymes with smear?
[00:52:54] Unknown:
This type of thing.
[00:52:56] allen marcus:
There were handfuls of snow packed down people's pants.
[00:53:03] Unknown:
You were in snow pants. We call that. Great. We're we're gonna chill you out,
[00:53:10] allen marcus:
forcing people, their face in the snow, and then you have people around you burying you in a snow pile, all of these things and more in Minnesota. Yes. All the way past March. Sometimes even in the June, we still had snow, and we still had snowball fights.
[00:53:28] Unknown:
Yeah. We're with you, favor ling Lignarius?
[00:53:32] allen marcus:
Lignarius. Lignarius. It's a.
[00:53:37] Unknown:
We're with you. If, honestly, if it wasn't for the ortho bros, I'd have no idea who Destiny is either. I don't know. I admitted that last night, though. I said, I'm not a political guy. That one's Steve. You know, I Marty, you know, offered the debate. We took it. It sounds like a stripper name. Yeah. We took the debate. I'm aware of who he is and and, some of the things shady things he's done in his positions. Obviously, most people, if you pay any attention to mainstream, those are aware of George Floyd and the repercussions of that. So I said, yep. You know, if they would've asked me if I could take the other side, I would've said no.
But I I wouldn't really know who he was either if I wasn't if the ortho bros weren't so fixated on him, which perfectly makes Steve's point that he brought up in the argument. Like, you guys are half of his advertising.
[00:54:36] allen marcus:
Yes. So how many of the viewers of the Destiny tragic saga or people that don't care but tune in to see if there's any interesting drama happening?
[00:54:47] Unknown:
100%. That dude that dude is crazy with the drama, and a 100%, they are tuning in to check said drama out. Get the fuck off my fucking pussy.
[00:55:00] allen marcus:
That's the reason for the danger hair. A degenerate left dirtbag. They call themselves the dirtbag left. They want to be the most punk rock people they can be. But at some point, when does it become really embarrassing for men to dye their hair and to exclaim their bisexuality to the world and act like a teenager? Like, what are you rebelling against at this point?
[00:55:32] Unknown:
At this point, it's just that it's that's the cool kid crowd in his mind. And that is the crowd like, he couldn't get a good conservative woman. He couldn't get a good conservative woman, and he wants to have degenerate, you know, sexual activities with whoever. And that's what so this is the crowd that he's in. You know? Dress for the dress for work, I guess. Right?
[00:56:01] allen marcus:
Yeah. And the the context of getting manic, panic, hair dye from Hot Topic has changed in twenty years. The the subcultures, the counterculture, mall goths made fun of in South Park, emos, and now what is left of that? You know, everybody wears black, dyes their hair a different unnatural color, wears nail polish. Right? So now we have Taylor Swift, the goofy white girl who's, like, conservative princess. She's releasing a new album. Terrible reviews, by the way. Cardi b. Can't beat Cardi b. Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift isn't even trying.
[00:56:48] Unknown:
Well, she she doesn't have as nearly as wet of a pussy, I guess.
[00:56:54] allen marcus:
Or as thick of thighs. That is visibly true. So to be a 35 year old princess I could not have told you that. Well, Ben Shapiro broke it down for me the other day explaining who Taylor Swift is and why he's really interested.
[00:57:13] Unknown:
Are a myth, though.
[00:57:15] allen marcus:
Oh, because his sister explained it to him. So, Ben, my breasts are large. Please stop looking at them like that. Also, this is my body. Respect me. I'm I'm your sister. This is how my anatomy works, just in case you need to know. Ben Shapiro. And maybe Mikaela Peterson, Jordan Peterson's daughter, probably explained. Yeah. There's things like sandpaper.
[00:57:46] Unknown:
It's like petting a shark.
[00:57:48] allen marcus:
Yeah. Okay. Mhmm.
[00:57:52] Unknown:
Did Ben debate? I don't think so. That was brought up a few times. Are you talking about me or Ben Ben? Because he was just talking about,
[00:58:03] allen marcus:
Ben Shapiro or and and Balderstone?
[00:58:08] Unknown:
I did not, and I don't think Shapiro did, but I could very well be wrong.
[00:58:13] allen marcus:
They might have shown up on Pierce Morgan at the same time, but, again, we don't know. We haven't kept up on all these details. We don't have these connection tree diagrams printed on our wall to figure out who is talking to whom and who's beefing with who and what's going on on the online debate space.
[00:58:35] Unknown:
Well, I we're we're I'm at the end of the year, so it's my harvest time for all my vegetables and my medical grow and the my dad's here with a backhoe and getting, stuff. No. Andrew Wilson agreed to debate me, and then, I sent reminders, and he never set a date, never set a date. And then Steve talks shit, and then he's like, oh, you're talking shit. I won't debate you now. You ain't debated us in the last year and a half, motherfucker.
[00:59:06] allen marcus:
So Jay Dyer had complained Jay Dyer complained that Steve stepping in to give credit to an artist
[00:59:17] Unknown:
Not not an artist. No. No. No. Let's let let's set the whole Ian Davis Yeah. Is a published author and award winning researcher and incomparable UK, like, figurehead in terms of of, you know, discussing, the technocracy and globalism and world banking and stuff like that. And so Jay Dyer knows who Ian Davis is. Jay Dyer is a thief, and he just that's what he's done his entire career is steal, make people think it was his idea because he'll block or get rid of anyone who's like, hey. You didn't come up with that. Right. Here's the scoop for that. You know, that's that's his whole MO. Jay Dyer is enough creativity to steal and then rip off a bunch of other people's ideas and all that kind of, but he has none of his own creativity.
And so he put out an infographic that Ian Davis made explaining the public private partnership. And I same infographic in the book. Yeah. Which it yeah. It's been published for years. It, appears in a printed book. It also appeared online in a number of different publications that Ian made and other people who cited
[01:00:48] allen marcus:
it and credited Ian for it. So this is not an Internet graphic. It's not a meme. It's not something that has been shared around without you know, people made changes to it. No. This was the original diagram unshamed. Paste. Yeah. Copy paste. And you said, wow. I recognize that. This is from this source. Yeah. There you go.
[01:01:11] Unknown:
Hey. Give him a shout.
[01:01:13] allen marcus:
So then what happened in the direct messages privately?
[01:01:16] Unknown:
He streamed at me. How dare you? Some DMs. How dare you? How what? For a meme. You know it's not a meme. Why are you lying to me? Fuck you. You're so rude. Worse.
[01:01:32] Unknown:
It It it wasn't on air, so we didn't see the announcement. But Lance is our newest member. Thank you very much, Lance. Lance.
[01:01:42] allen marcus:
Hooray. Hooray. Hooray.
[01:01:47] Unknown:
Let's see. Do I have anything for this?
[01:01:51] Unknown:
Everybody, please let us know what you think of the the emojis and if you want us to change stuff around, and we're gonna get more stuff on there that's just for you guys. Yeah. These ugly guys again. How goes it nights of the storm?
[01:02:08] Unknown:
It's funny that Jason would would say that. I was watching, the Legion of Skanks podcast as as I am want to do, and they had Jason Ellis on the show. Not a huge fan of Jason Ellis necessarily, but I'm looking at him. And I'm like, you know, if we on his own mode. If we shaved Jason Barker from nights of the storm, if we shaved him and gave him some nonmilitary tattoos, damned if he wouldn't look just like Jason Ellis. And you're gonna call us ugly, my guy? You're gonna call us ugly? He did say he would win the ugly. Competition.
[01:03:01] Unknown:
He said he would win it.
[01:03:06] Unknown:
I sat next to you on a panel. I know what you look like.
[01:03:11] allen marcus:
Well, there is that issue of open panelists who never turn on their camera, but then they talk a lot. And then there's another category
[01:03:23] Unknown:
to not be on to not have the camera on. Like, I I understand. This is this is the draw right here. It's it's this is my bread and butter.
[01:03:32] allen marcus:
Well, there's another category I need to call out here. The category of men who join the open panel and then say nothing at all with their camera on. They'll hold up objects sometimes. So this is what happened at the end of the Sarah raging tomatoes stream on Monday night, the George Floyd destiny disaster thing. And all the panelists had dropped out. The one that remained, Benjamin Balderson. Open panel, other people came up. No questions addressed to Benjamin Balderson. No comments addressed to Benjamin Balderson. Rob, the punching bag with holes in him, continue to get poked and prodded, and Benjamin sits there smiling, basking in his victory.
[01:04:25] Unknown:
It it it seems as though Rob actually hates destiny. He might actually believe that that Destiny is worse a worse net net negative for society.
[01:04:40] Unknown:
I know it's real because my Discord server tells me.
[01:04:45] allen marcus:
His Reddit experience, his lived Reddit experience proved to him. Actually
[01:04:56] Unknown:
I don't know if anybody in my house has even ever been on Reddit. And, honestly, I didn't know what it was until Marcus would talk about it. And then as per usual, I wonder if Marcus is making things up. No. Reddit, reddit,.com.
[01:05:13] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[01:05:14] allen marcus:
It's basically the front page of the Internet at this point. And when what they said? You search for something, the top searches come from Reddit. They've all been spider crawled and indexed and figured out. So with our boy, or, mister mystery over there who spoke so quickly, it sounded like he was going to speak in tongues at some point, an auctioneer with no high value mails in sight to bid on him.
[01:05:45] Unknown:
Yeah. With, with Marcus here, our boy band name is Earth, Wind, and Friar.
[01:05:51] Unknown:
Nice. Well
[01:05:53] Unknown:
done. I like that. I'll write that down.
[01:05:58] allen marcus:
Uh-huh. Herb's wind. Well
[01:06:03] Unknown:
done. Again, I'm here all week. Type your waitress. You know, harpsichord
[01:06:07] allen marcus:
is gonna sound great. It will be chamber music. Kings of our own castings. Remember
[01:06:21] Unknown:
the September 21. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot like that.
[01:06:31] allen marcus:
I like that. I like that.
[01:06:35] Unknown:
How do you your gory and chant? Yeah.
[01:06:38] allen marcus:
I I don't know. Well, you stand in a very open space. You wear nothing except a burlock burlap sack, and then you moan. Got a hand Not in a sexual way. Music on this shit. Not in a pleasurable way. You just moan in a godly way.
[01:07:00] Unknown:
Mhmm. We would
[01:07:04] Unknown:
like 2 Bitcoin for our offering of prime flesh, Marcus.
[01:07:21] allen marcus:
This is happening. We are at our own Renaissance Festival. This is how we celebrate a debate victory. If they thought you were a Viking, they didn't know what eras you are from.
[01:07:47] Unknown:
Well, you know, recently that TV show came out, so then, you know, a 100 people jumped on the I'm a Viking bandwagon. Same people that jumped on the they also own, Sons of Anarchy vest, and, I I I I've run out of TV show rep. The trends. They they they know trends. At Yellowstone, they bought a Yellowstone jacket, And, you know, these and I was fully into the Germanic heathenism long before Vikings came out. It has nothing to do with it. It was a it was a entertaining show. It was. That was a neat show. Was it anything historical or something you should add if you're gonna be, actually into the culture of that or into the culture of Germanic heathenism? No.
I actually got this caused a big fight with Beth because then she quick tried to Google up an answer, and I knew what answer was coming to because there's a time period in, Northern Europe where, basically, three kings held Northern Europe except for Iceland. And so Google tried saying that's when Christianity started taking over. And, no, that's when it finished taking over. Yeah. It it it had taken over long. It had fucking infiltrated fully long before that before the Viking period even started. So the the Viking period, it wasn't a bunch of oldness going to fight a bunch of Christians.
It was, one tribe of people went and attacked. And also the the the Romans had done some real nasty things to the, Germanics, to the Danes, things like that. So they went and attacked, and then they found out that it was pretty fucking easy to attack these people. So they went and started so then a bunch of people jumped in and started taking their stuff. Just like any, like, any of these big riots on TV that are for political reasons, honestly, most people they're rioting aren't there for any political reasons. They're there to riot. They don't want they don't really give a shit about any of the political stuff.
[01:10:13] allen marcus:
Just a quick question
[01:10:15] Unknown:
for Same thing with, like, he brought up Braveheart, and it confused me for a minute because I'm like, Braveheart, apparently, Mel Gibson hated Robert the Bruce because, basically, everything Robert the Bruce did, he kind of made that into William Wallace doing and made Robert the Bruce out to be the shit heel. And Robert the Bruce, them two didn't have anything to do with each other. And then when William Wallace was killed, at a battle he wasn't at, he didn't go betray him and go on the king's side and all that, and then dismembered him and sent his pieces about, the Scottish people decided to rebel, and Robert the Bruce joined on that rebellion. And then they made the, the the declaration of a brothe and a 100, and this is where, like, there's awesome fucking Irish or Scottish folk songs and shit about it, where it's, like, a 100 of the a 100 of the Scotts, and then it's as long as there's 100.
You know? And it talks about as long as there's 100 Scotsmen, it doesn't matter what the king of England has to say. This country is alive, and we will fight. And they they went against the king. They took a piece of their kilt with their their, tartar with their, colors, and they tied it to the bottom of this declaration and sent it to the king and said, we will fight till there isn't a 100 of us left to stand, motherfucker. You're not having our land. What's under a Scotsman's
[01:11:55] allen marcus:
kilt? A wing? Lipstick. A wing.
[01:11:59] Unknown:
And some lipstick.
[01:12:00] allen marcus:
And, Benjamin, you talked to v y b e about b I b l e. But have you even been to hell?
[01:12:12] Unknown:
I I I I was, you know, married to this woman for a little while. I did divorce her and got crawled my way out, but, yes. Yes, I I have been to hell. You've been
[01:12:26] allen marcus:
through hell, but have you been to hell?
[01:12:31] Unknown:
Yeah. I left a receipt too.
[01:12:38] allen marcus:
That's important.
[01:12:40] Unknown:
I mean, the way that I understood it, Hel was, a Norse goddess. Yeah. Yeah. And that's who you went and saw when you died, which is where the saying go to hell came from. And if she appeared as a crone, then you would pass on into a a beneficial thank you, babe. Yeah. A beneficial afterlife. And if she appeared as, like, a beautiful young maiden, then you were condemned to a a much worse afterlife.
[01:13:18] allen marcus:
She's a daughter of someone?
[01:13:20] Unknown:
Or was she a daughter of Well, she was two faced bitch, apparently.
[01:13:24] allen marcus:
Mhmm. Well, she was someone's daughter.
[01:13:28] Unknown:
Where where where that really comes in? And, Steve's not necessarily wrong. That isn't one of the stories. But the the there's also ones where it may basically makes it I knew, like, a Persephone type story where she's she's not just death. She's also life. So she's this young beauty and this dead decaying thing. And so what that is is like a seed going into the ground and going through the decay of the old like, an old plant, it decays, the seed goes into the ground, and from there, up springs new young life. And so the because, there's a fairly strong, illusions to, reincarnation and even cosmology.
So you so hell is like a place you go to go restart and go back onto the earth. Well, let's not tell Beth that. She's not gonna like that answer one bit. Yeah. No. She she, she has her thing from when she was a little kid that she holds in her heart. And Sure. If you challenge it, you are gonna get, she she was shook. She was shook, and it wouldn't quit poking at me. And it was like even though she was shook, so that's a bad reaction. If you're shook, you should stop poking.
[01:14:56] allen marcus:
It was like a rash or an allergic reaction.
[01:14:59] Unknown:
I could have pointed out to you in in, like, the March fucking AD where Christianity already already had established in Germania, and there was all kinds of activity with it. So by July, it was the majority of it. By September, all the kings were Christian except for Iceland.
[01:15:21] allen marcus:
Like, so
[01:15:23] Unknown:
The Christian empire. This this is what happens when you use AI. And I get that, you know, if I don't know something about his subject, I'll just quick look at the AI thing too. But then it's not good. It's not gonna hold in a debate argument, not from somebody who knows his history.
[01:15:39] Unknown:
It's not just history. It's context of literature. I mean,
[01:15:42] Unknown:
as a heathen and somebody that grew up in a Christian society
[01:15:46] allen marcus:
Mhmm.
[01:15:47] Unknown:
I also went through the period where more of my thoughts were anti Christian as opposed to as opposed to trying to make a life around this other thing that I want that's not Christian. Well, I don't wanna be an anti Christian. I wanna be a a Germanic heathen and live that life. So some things I have matched theirs. But, we all go through that anti Christian phase. So you find out the things like like the exodus is not match any history anywhere. It's only in the bible. And these people who are known fantastical liars and known to be the person that the only only a small hack can have his hand in your pocket and call you a thief. They're known to do the nastiest shit and then say you're the one doing it.
Well, the biblical history of them claiming that somebody made them slaves, but then they defeated them and took all their stuff and their god won. That sounds like expansion to me after it happens two or three times. It's no different than the the small hats now with Israel. They're like, we're defending ourselves. Then how come Israel's, like, 10 times 50 times bigger than it was when in 1947?
[01:17:11] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[01:17:12] Unknown:
You can't keep getting bigger and saying that's defense.
[01:17:16] allen marcus:
More buffer zones around it. I I don't know how that works either. And Beth, again, Vibe did a bible study. The topic was the literary and reference to the
[01:17:29] Unknown:
You're not Jewish, but that's who invented hell in the bite, and and that's who invented the old testament where it talks about hell.
[01:17:37] allen marcus:
Sure. So there's references to Tartarus, Sheol, and they use their concordance and their computer software to find references that were translated to, you know, the Greek word Hades, that sort of thing. Tartarus, Gehenna, Sheol, S H E 0 L, Lake Of Fire. All of these concepts were sort of mentioned, and there's some translations, but, really, it was the literary tradition that expanded upon the underworld concept. Yeah. So in comparative religions and and other discussions we've had on, you know, weaving spires and other sort of moral cult panels, concept of the underworld meaning where the sun goes, the moon goes, the stars, they go under the earth. Visually, they go under, and then they return again.
So there's that concept. But then to apply that concept to every other thing, it's not an analog. It's not a one to one. It might be used for stochastic biblical terrorism if you want to take your Bible and hit people over the head with it and explain to them that, you know, separation from God will send you to hell. And you don't wanna be separated from God because that's the worst thing that could happen because you'd be a godless heathen, paganist, Odin. Like, that those are all the slurs and the pejoratives in their language.
So when we say someone is an ortho bro and they take that as a pejorative, then it's just dishing out what they've dished back to you. It's just you called us this word, and we're calling you an ortho bro, and that's pejorative, and they didn't like that.
[01:19:21] Unknown:
Which is hilarious.
[01:19:23] Unknown:
It really is. And, dude, I mean, in in my opening statement of that debate last night, I told them that their entire argument was gonna be a leftist
[01:19:35] allen marcus:
stochastic terrorism argue argument. What does that mean?
[01:19:40] Unknown:
Well, and I defined it in the opening. You know? And then they spent the entire night making an argument from that place.
[01:19:55] Unknown:
That was their whole point is that Hold on. Hold on. That was one of two arguments. The other argument was trying to redefine something to pigeonhole it so it only applied to to their guy, which is a leftist tactic.
[01:20:09] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[01:20:11] Unknown:
Like redefining racism so it only applies to white people. Like, of course, we're the only racist people. Your new definition makes it so we're the only ones that could possibly be.
[01:20:23] allen marcus:
What about anti anti semitism? Mhmm. As Apple is removing the juice box emoji because it's harmful to to use emojis as placeholders for words. Juice box emoji is hate speech. It's being removed in future updates. So if you have grape emojis, put them in chat. If you have juice box emojis, use them while you still got them. There were also, pew pews as emojis. Those have shifted into squirt guns, water pistols, and the emoji language. We we're talking back and forth in emoji language. Symbolic references.
[01:21:10] Unknown:
Words have meaning An AI emoji. Out. So I had to take it out. No. AI figures that out even faster.
[01:21:18] allen marcus:
AI figures out the codes even faster because there's fewer words. If you are Rob Moore and you speak an entire paragraph with one single breath followed up by another paragraph, followed up by a third paragraph. Rob gave so many essays when he was given a chance in an opening and said absolutely nothing, did not expand upon his thesis, his hypothesis, and then use words to then explain why he said words before, digging himself into further and further holes, rabbit holes, whatever he wanted to call them. And then the sarcastic terrorism argument was resurfaced because he had tilled the soil over and over again. So when sarcastic terrorism was brought up again, where did it go?
[01:22:14] Unknown:
Nowhere.
[01:22:17] allen marcus:
Nowhere. Buried it again. Not understanding what stochastic terrorism is, talking around it, evading it, and not addressing it directly is hard very, very hard to listen to as a as an audience member. It's like, there it is. Stochastic terrorism. Your response, Marty seems to be asleep.
[01:22:45] Unknown:
Rob, you were very much awake. You were the most awake person who's ever been awake. One of you seems like you've taken heroin and the other one, like, you've snorted all the cocaine.
[01:22:55] allen marcus:
Rob was so woke. How woke was he?
[01:23:06] Unknown:
Wait. Hang on. I will we get dinged for this? Probably.
[01:23:12] allen marcus:
Who knows? It's worth a ding.
[01:23:16] Unknown:
This is this is Rob. This was his entire debate performance. It's the culmination of everything that he brought to the table as seen in a 1991
[01:23:33] Unknown:
Micro Machines commercial. The Micro Machine Man here presenting the genuine original, costly flexible most midget finish left of the wall. Oh, Micro Machines. Machine in for a landing. Phew. This place has it all. That was his entire debate performance.
[01:24:01] allen marcus:
He took so long on the onboarding process to put his plane into the air that by the time he landed it, he had never left the tarmac in the first place to travel anywhere. He stayed within his safe place and ensured Marty would not have to fly the friendly skies. They stayed in the terminal. They never boarded the plane to go anywhere. Oh, fucking a little bit. Stick to landing if you don't fly anywhere. You didn't go anywhere.
[01:24:38] Unknown:
Like, my dude, how are you gonna sit here and tell everybody that destiny is bad when you adopted all of his tactics and his cadence? What what what are you even doing, dude?
[01:24:58] allen marcus:
Yes. Because we've talked about Destiny having a loose jaw, going side to side, the tongue moved around, going over the t, like, lots of slurping sounds. It was very disgusting. And this is what we listened to
[01:25:14] Unknown:
for five hours. That's gotta be stronger than in than, I know a lot of people say he's on Adderall, but fuck. That's a meth twitch. Like like, I've never seen, like, Adderall. Nobody gets that kind of a twitch from Adderall.
[01:25:31] Unknown:
If you're boofing it, maybe.
[01:25:34] Unknown:
Yeah. Buffing Adderall. He might be. He might be.
[01:25:40] allen marcus:
I don't think Rob went to sleep. I I think Rob is still awake from the debate. I don't think he's rested yet. Anyone check-in on him on the morning? No. Mart Marte's hibernating. He's tucked in. He's he's sleeping, getting some rest in. Letting those muscles relax. Deep muscle relaxation.
[01:26:01] Unknown:
I don't think I don't think Beth probably been asleep either.
[01:26:04] allen marcus:
Beth has read her Bible backwards and forwards and upside down and used all the gematria. She's used all the Bible codes. She's researched to find out
[01:26:16] Unknown:
exactly what does have that, does have that recorded, so we will put that out.
[01:26:22] allen marcus:
The v y b e b I b l e s t u d y?
[01:26:27] Unknown:
Yep. Yeah. The vybe bible study recorded if you didn't catch it on vybe's channel. He doesn't have StreamYard, so I didn't know how to restream it. But, Mark is gonna put it back up. It it takes by half an hour and then it and then, or so, and then it gets spicy. That's when I get spicy with it.
[01:26:50] Unknown:
Speaking of spicy, tonight's show is brought to you by Chile Habanero sauce from El Yucatan. El Yucateco. El Yucateco. He's right. For that extra little bite. Tapatio's. This is not a tapatio, my my boy. No, man. Mhmm. Yeah. You're not tapatio. It's actually this the big Bullshit. You should travel with this. You should have it on you wherever you go. It is phenomenal. And what It is. I I order it by the six pack now.
[01:27:24] Unknown:
One of the things that, kept it spicy that Christians pretend like they don't ever understand is similar to the way the leftist will casually talk down to conservatives. Christians like to do that to anybody that's not a Christian. Yeah. And and so they casually, like, oh, Odin's a fallen angel and is gonna burn forever in the lake of fire as am I. But I'm not saying anything bad. Yeah. You know? Like, you're saying that I'm on the evil side, that I'm bad, that I'm gonna suffer eternal fire and Oh, the truth. You're not saying anything bad. You know? Capital t. Something that would be the truth. To fuck yourself for. The capital t truth is only offensive to those who don't accept the the truth.
[01:28:09] Unknown:
Old El Paso is made in New York City.
[01:28:15] allen marcus:
I wanna play with micro machines
[01:28:17] Unknown:
for some reason. I don't know what happened. They just Right.
[01:28:24] allen marcus:
Just those those small little toys, Boys and their toys. Shout out to K O'Dave who's got some big action figures. He'd be he'd be he'd be a fun guy to I don't I don't know, to go over to his house after school.
[01:28:41] Unknown:
Yeah. It's taking candy from babies. That's why, they had a hard time with us last night. That's what you're you're used to debating.
[01:28:48] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. The the you could tell that they just weren't prepared at all for people who didn't have the exact same, but ideologically opposite surface level, fucking nonsensical arguments that they were presenting.
[01:29:09] allen marcus:
They had no improvisational tactics prepared ahead of time. There was no audible. There was no John Madden. Are we playing oh, wait. The ball is now a soccer ball. Let's handle it differently. They were very orthodox and strict in their prepared talking points. There was no deviation from that mean, and stochastic terrorism
[01:29:39] Unknown:
hit them by surprise like a gorilla attack. They had They had no idea what to do with it, and I knew they wouldn't. When I dropped that into the group chat earlier that day, when it hit me that that's exactly what they were gonna do, they were gonna come at us with a 100% leftist argument that they just they they wouldn't be able to wiggle out of it, and they never could.
[01:30:05] Unknown:
That's right. And I 100% believe that that is why they, will not debate us. And the North the Ortho Bros won't come debate us and just refuse because they're so used to debating people that haven't given their worldview any thought and have the time are are freaking very young girls who just go with whatever feels good.
[01:30:35] allen marcus:
Of course, you can dominate them in a debate. I was allowed into an orthodox space on Twitter one time by one Chase Haggard who thought that I might be a Calvinist. So I thought I might be a Calvinist. And when I approached the sacred, Twitter space, they said I had to have a belief system. And if I wasn't a Calvinist, why am I here? And I said, well, I don't understand Orthodox Christianity. I don't understand why Orthodox Christians hate other Christians so much, why they attack other Christians so much, and I have questions to ask. I was told the best thing about orthodoxy is there are no gays in it. And I What about being Orthodox? Say, well
[01:31:38] Unknown:
They like stinky fish. That's what that's the ones I call the stinky fish church. Lutherans
[01:31:45] allen marcus:
do have potluck dinners serving lutefisk, l u t e f I s k. Lutefisk. Pound. Yes.
[01:31:58] Unknown:
Yeah. I have a giant I've got an f three fifty that's with a four inch lift, and I've been told that my truck should be illegal. Only in California do I get told that. But
[01:32:14] allen marcus:
All trucks should be illegal unless unless you are needing a truck. Are you UPS? Are you mailman? Are are you CDL driver?
[01:32:27] Unknown:
No. But I haul, about 10 tons of supplies up the mountain a week between the hay and the animal feed and groceries and fuel. That's why I got such a big fucking truck, and I live out on some of the worst roads you could you could possibly imagine if you even call them roads. And so I need large tires to get my differential off the ground. So to have large tires, you have to have a lifted truck. So I got a lifted truck with large tires and big old diesel, and I can haul anything I want. It's fucking right up the side of a mountain. So that's where I live.
[01:33:12] allen marcus:
I forgot to ask Marty last
[01:33:15] Unknown:
night about You should be able to own a truck unless you can drive a stick, though. I don't think that there should be an automatic
[01:33:23] Unknown:
Yes. You should not have a truck unless you can drive a stick.
[01:33:28] Unknown:
Yeah. Like, I've got I've got the six speed. So it's a five speed with a granny in it. And because of where I live, that is amazing. Like, it doesn't matter what's going on. If I throw that fucker in the in the low, what it Jake calls first is they call it a six speed, but it's really a five speed with a granny. But I throw it in the first. You can let the clutch out. It don't matter how much weight you got on, what you're towing, and you're going straight up the side of a mountain. It don't matter.
[01:33:56] allen marcus:
Manual transmission?
[01:33:58] Unknown:
Yeah. I always get dumb fucks that don't that live in their parents' basement. Joe Cool fucking Joe Cool lives in his car. You you don't you don't even Like, always
[01:34:09] allen marcus:
the last time.
[01:34:11] Unknown:
I've actually got into that argument on, flows on, powder Dusty's channel before because some other dumb shit's like, well, then how are you on the end? And people always think that that's, like, some slick gotcha. Then how are you on the Internet?
[01:34:25] allen marcus:
It's got a Do you have plates right now? How do you have electricity? How can you call yourself an off gridder if you aren't camping outside under
[01:34:39] Unknown:
a tent. When I shut off this?
[01:34:42] Unknown:
Oh. Oh. Whoop.
[01:34:45] Unknown:
Oh.
[01:34:46] allen marcus:
Flashlights. What's going on there? Where does the lights go? What is a grid? What is a grid? Is that a Tron reference?
[01:34:57] Unknown:
Yes. A grid is this thing where when you live where the city re is using is providing you resources, there's this thing called an electrical grid, which you go ahead and just go plug your shit in, and you don't have to have a generator or pan panels or none of those things. And the same thing with water, you don't have to do anything to receive your water. You don't have to do anything to do any of that. Myself, like, right because we get our water out of a out of a creek, like, every three days if we want water, I gotta go clean my filter. On the creek, the very first filter that keeps the the big nasty shit from going down into my water tank and blah blah blah. And if the fill if the creek gets too low, I've gotta go move it. If it's, I gotta maintain it, make sure it stays flowed. It doesn't get all kinds of junk in there. Make sure the ducks didn't use it for a shit pond.
Like, all those kind of things, electrical. And he's like, if you're not living on solar panels, I was like, it was like fucking midnight when he said that to me. I'm like, what fucking sun am I supposed to be getting, you dumb motherfucker? Are you fucking kidding me? Me running You look like you're fighting, but you don't look like you're fighting. Run my Internet and my TV and my fucking fridge, and then we and then we charge up these batteries with them. So that way, when we don't have the power on, we still have lights and shit.
[01:36:28] Unknown:
Yeah. That was only pushed back. Sideswiped in Atlanta at 02:00 in the morning by a new Mustang, past due on the inside shoulder, hit your camper, and kept going. That sucks, man. That sucks. I got it. Question for Ben in Florence, Oregon, camping in the Swiss Law Forest, road tripping to LA.
[01:36:56] Unknown:
Without doxing, what part of NorCal are you again? This is from Oh, I dox myself all the time, bro. It's okay. I I live in Humboldt. I'm I'm right outside of Garberville. Where I live, like, I live deep. I it takes me two hours to get to the grocery store. So I'm so deep out in the mountains. It it doesn't ever bother me, the doxing thing. And then, also, I have a I I'm a real farm, so I have so many animals. I know I know if somebody is within, like, two miles of my farm before they're at, you know, before they're there. The animals are staring at them, freaking out. When you get on my farm, you have to contend with five pit bulls and Bubba and and the angry alpaca who hates you because you, you were a stranger in a danger, and he Unless you're me. In which case, buddy's fine. Stay like Steve.
[01:37:49] Unknown:
But yeah. Yeah. So if you're not me, you know, don't show up unannounced.
[01:37:56] Unknown:
But, yeah, I am I'm always cool for getting together. But, yeah, it's, I'm right outside of Garberville. So, like, if you want if you like, obviously, like, you like things like that. So, the thing that we're closest to is the, Avenue Of The Giants where all the giant redwoods are. Mhmm. Super, super nice area. I put up videos of it sometimes. Anytime that I'm going to the store, we stop there. That's, that it's our pee spot. We stop there and let the dogs out, and they go pee, and we go pee, and gets in
[01:38:29] allen marcus:
The, preferred terminology is your urination station.
[01:38:34] Unknown:
Urination station. That is our urination station there in the Redwood.
[01:38:38] Unknown:
I And it really is a kidney rattler going, out of out of the road from the farm to the paved road. It really is. Because it it like Yeah.
[01:38:52] allen marcus:
All all the inside reach out.
[01:38:54] Unknown:
It's two miles through the most hellish road, and it's completely confusing. We can't ever get anybody to come up here. None of the delivery companies will come up here. Only, they'll go to the post office in town. So, like, if I get something from UPS or something, it goes even if you write my physical address, it'll go to the post office. You're like, no.
[01:39:16] Unknown:
Yeah. We're not doing that. Not that we know that road. We're not going on that road. And you can't just drop it at the freaking end of the road. It'll get fucking stolen in ten minutes.
[01:39:30] Unknown:
Yeah. Or less.
[01:39:32] Unknown:
Arcade is nice. It's nice up there. It's cool. Nice. And, yeah, they're they're on the southern end. So if you took the avenue all the way south and it spat you out, like, by Redway,
[01:39:43] Unknown:
Yeah. That's the side of of Humboldt that that Ben's on. Yeah. I I live on Murder Mountain. When I when I moved up here, I was a much bigger speaker back then. It was before, YouTube started clamping down on all of us and taking away our shows and shit. And so, probably, what, 30 or 40 people came up here and Yeah. Helped us move up here and, super super neat time. It's a it's a gorgeous area. But fucking Living in a city. My dad my dad got a backhoe because he wants to run around and do some stuff with a with a backhoe and, which we greatly appreciate.
The backhoe driver, he gets there. He's like, isn't this murder mountain? We're like, yeah. Yeah. It is.
[01:40:40] Unknown:
Yep. No. It's funny. When you moved there, I think it was the year that that Netflix special came out.
[01:40:47] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Only I would choose to move into that. That's, we we didn't know. You know, but at the but the end at the end of the day, that reputation and and the thing is that reputation came from when cannabis was fully illegal and they were still getting, like, $5,000 a pound for it. Stop. Well, he's still getting, like, 5,000 a pound. Well, you grow fucking a 100 pounds at $5 a pound, that's half a million fucking dollars. And that you bet people will do some real fucked up shit for that. Well, now when pie when it's selling for fucking $203,100 dollars a pound and it's hard to sell, you end up sitting on half of it until it's rotten, until it's drier and shit, and you sell it for 100 a pound. Well, that's not really worth fucking doing much shit for.
Right?
[01:41:45] Unknown:
And it's gonna get even more weird if, Trump changes it to a schedule three.
[01:41:57] allen marcus:
What's a schedule three?
[01:41:59] Unknown:
Schedule three is like your over the counter stuff. Oh, okay. For it and the hoops that you have to jump through in order to make it a commercially marketable product are more so than what schedule two drugs have to go through because they only have to go through pharmaceutical regulation, not statewide and then federal regulation on top of what the pharmaceutical industry demands.
[01:42:29] allen marcus:
So where is Tylenol on the schedule?
[01:42:33] Unknown:
It's in the autism spectrum, apparently.
[01:42:36] allen marcus:
Like, is that a rainbow?
[01:42:39] Unknown:
You know you know what's funny about that, though? You you guys of the colors are shades of gray. Do you remember that? Indigo. This was this was years ago. They used to talk about Tylenol made it so you didn't you couldn't have empathy and things like that, that it made you less emotional.
[01:42:55] Unknown:
Like, do you guys That was the SSRIs.
[01:42:58] Unknown:
But no. Tylenol I remember the the the pain killer thing. Also.
[01:43:03] allen marcus:
Right. There was this idea that if you had a little ache and pain, you just feel it out. Let the body know where it is, concentrate in the area, feel it out. But every time you step on a Lego, stub your toe, you know, I I heard women speaking so much about, like, the pain they go through, and then men would be like, I feel a little discomfort, and then just, you know, take a pill for it. And it was like, unless you absolutely need a painkiller, don't take it. And then somehow we get to the painkiller epidemic. What is that one? OxyContin? Oxy so now you go from a baby aspirin to an oxy What's the deal there?
[01:43:48] Unknown:
The the the deal with OxyContin is people don't realize that when you take for me anyways, I didn't enjoy the high of it, and I don't see how anybody could. It was it's a very gross high. It's it's just anger. Like, if you want to take a pill that is pure anger, that's the one. Like, you are ready to fucking do some angry. You are the hulk. But, what it did do, though, is it took away all the aches and pains. And I've been through enough in my life. I have a certain level of aches and pains that I go through every day. I wake up. I'm at that level. And it'll just kinda deteriorate through the day as I'm tired or whatnot, but it's what I'm used to. Well, then the OxyContin, all of a sudden, it takes away all those pains. And so now all of a sudden, if I don't have OxyContin, and this is I only took it for, like, four months, so I'm not, like, some expert on the OxyContin addiction.
It's when I flew off a motorcycle into a tree and shattered my left side, and I still went to it for four months. Where I was having a problem was Mhmm. Those aches when those aches and pains came back, all of a sudden it was like, remember me? And you're like, oh god. That hurts. That hurts. OxyContin. You know? And and the thing is is there's all there's a bunch of aches and pains that I'm gonna have for the rest of my fucking life. And if I can't deal with that, then I'm in a lot of trouble, but I can deal with it. So this pill taking them away and then getting them all back at once, that was hard.
Hard.
[01:45:34] allen marcus:
Hard for you, but easy to prescribe.
[01:45:36] Unknown:
Similar problems. Steve also operates at a level of pain on a daily basis that most people can't fathom. And so losing all the pain, that's a thing. It's like, oh, this is nice.
[01:45:50] Unknown:
Right. I I'll tell you what, man. I I had already, like, I'd already been through the maybe I have a problem with heroin thing before I had my my fall off the roof. Now parts of my leg are missing injury. And so I freaked out in the hospital when I found out that they had me simultaneously on a morphine drip with a fentanyl epidural. Oh. And I, like, yanked the epidural out of me and was like, no. I'll fucking kill you. I'm not leaving here dope sick. You know? That's that's not gonna fucking happen. No. No. We're not doing this. About a year later, my brother and I got into a particular type of home distilling that is frowned upon by people who used to be referred to as revenuers.
And, you know, we had a, let's say, contraption.
[01:46:56] allen marcus:
Revenue contraption. Device. It just It's my brother's head.
[01:47:02] Unknown:
Okay. Where where we would make this particular drink. And once upon a time, there's a gentleman who I won't name because he's a, you know, upstanding family man now, and I don't wanna drag his name through the mud. But I will put his ex wife his ex wife's father on blast, who was an old Vietnam vet named Terry. And when Terry came back from Vietnam, there was a particular hillside in the Santa Cruz Mountains that he scattered with actual fucking poppy
[01:47:42] allen marcus:
seeds. Oh.
[01:47:44] Unknown:
Like, the real ones from Southeast Asia. And so Heirloom heirloom poppy seeds. Terry and his son-in-law would strafe the poppies and then collect the the oot. And there was a night when we're just sitting around my buddy's house, and we got, like, a quart jar. And it's just it you know, it's sitting there. We're sipping on it, you know, but that's all you can do. It's not like anybody chugging something that comes in a 188 proof, son. You ain't do or you do it if you do it once. You do it once, and that's it. But we took a much smaller, like, a eight ounce jelly jar or something like that, poured some off in it, and took a golf ball size of the poppy scraping, threw it in that, shook it up a little bit, threw a little bit of ball of hash in there.
And about forty five minutes or an hour later, the whole thing had changed color significantly. And we took just little nips off of the jelly jar, and then all of the sudden, there was, like, this warm purple glow around absolutely everything. And I had no pain. I had no pain. None. For, like, the first time in a couple of years, it was all gone.
[01:49:13] allen marcus:
Was there pleasure? Was there any sensation?
[01:49:16] Unknown:
I mean, there was okay. Is it pleasure, bro? It Euphoria, if not pleasure. Okay. You know? The the the feeling of of being, like, legitimately satisfied with your surroundings, with your overall you know, the all of that shit was gone. It wasn't there anymore. And I looked at my buddy well, that Ben met, my other friend Ben. I looked at him, and I was like, I understand how they built the railroads. Ben
[01:49:52] Unknown:
Ben also was married to Christie. Yeah. Ben was married to a Christie. Yeah. But we have met before, and it was Ben and Christie and Ben and Christie. Mhmm. And then and then I said I said to Ben, I said, that's an awesome shirt. Ben's like, I like yours, and we traded shirts.
[01:50:09] Unknown:
Yep. And they touched beards.
[01:50:11] Unknown:
Yeah. And we touched beards.
[01:50:13] Unknown:
I was thinking, like, a dimensional portal would open if it happened. It maybe it did. It did. And Sydney Sweeney swam through. I'm sorry. I don't want credit for this one. Yeah.
[01:50:25] allen marcus:
Sydney Sweeney swam through the interdimensional portal when you summoned her by saying Euphoria. That is the name of an Israeli television program that was, released by HBO to an American audience in which Sydney Sweeney has great genes and shows them off quite frequently.
[01:50:46] Unknown:
So the story Is that the one with the no. It's not. No. That was There is a Utopia? Was that the fucking John Cusack thing or no?
[01:50:56] allen marcus:
No. Euphoria is some horseshit. Right? Euphoria is the HBO show with teenagers in it who have the transgender individual who sleeps over with a Milano Zendaya figure, and it's about these high school kids who are experiencing emotions for the first time, and then they try different substances to
[01:51:20] Unknown:
approach the euphoria. You see, this is why I say he's Argus. Nobody wants to watch that. Not even teenagers wanna watch that. Right. Argus, he knows all about it. Nobody else knows what the fuck he's talking about. He said Euphoria, and I was like, oh, that's a great leftover salmon song.
[01:51:37] allen marcus:
Salmon. I like fish. More salmon, please.
[01:51:41] Unknown:
Mhmm. My dish. Marcus Marcus knows all of it. He's just he's he's he's gonna be the new Argus. Well, this is I you know, this is a a surveillance apparatus called Argus?
[01:51:52] allen marcus:
Argus.
[01:51:53] Unknown:
They made it. It's got, like, a thousand cameras at once, and it can go down to reading a freaking candy bar wrapper on the pavement from however many mile and a half up in the sky it is. Enhance. Enhance. Enhance. That was in a Tom Clancy movie. Very good technology.
[01:52:12] Unknown:
Enlocks.
[01:52:14] allen marcus:
Enhance. Enhance. Enhance. Enhance. So if we wanna talk about Hollywood movies with Rob Knower sometime, love to do it. Love to talk about all the Hollywood movies. That would be a great conversation. Swallow your food, floss, brush your teeth, use the restroom a couple times, and empty your mind, empty your bowels, and then Rob know, and let's have a conversation about all your favorite movies and metaphors, boat movies. I'm sure Rob knows about Euphoria, the Hollywood show, and has watched all of them with his loving wife together. And the only people watching HBO shows, Dexon City, all all of them and we're gonna talk Game of Thrones. It's coming back, apparently. There's gonna be more Game of Thrones spin off series.
So that's that's on the that's on the future in the future. And, also, Amazon now holds the property to the James Bond series, and the first, action has been to remove all guns from James Bond movie posters. So when you go to Amazon Prime, you look for a James Bond movie, all of the guns have been digitally removed. So now you have Pierce Brosnan doing a winker pose without a gun in his hand. It's like the GI Joe action figure grip. All the guns have been digitally removed. I think the next move will be to remove all the women. Weights with a shake weight. Well, this is this is where shake weights are great options. Yes. Also, Harry Potter has been enhanced with guns. So all the lawns have been turned into pew pew sticks, and they emit bullets from them. Harry Potter was done. Like when, that Shakespeare
[01:54:05] Unknown:
that shakes remember that Shakespeare gun, you know,
[01:54:11] allen marcus:
and then the everything Romeo plus Juliet? Yeah. With that Leonardo DiCaprio.
[01:54:17] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. And Claire Danes. Right? Claire Danes. And they made all this they tried to make a modern
[01:54:23] Unknown:
Romeo and Juliet out of it. Yeah. When I was in high school, I had a little bit of a crush on Claire Danes. Just a little bit. A little bit. I I so we went to New York crazy. We went to New York City. Sure. My my junior year of high school on, like, a a field trip thing. And they put us all up in a hotel in Manhattan. There were two chaperones for, I think, 15 of us. And we were like, fuck you. We're just gonna go run wild on the streets of New York the entire time. We'll show up to the things that we're supposed to show up for, sort of, but we're gonna be wasted,
[01:55:07] allen marcus:
and we're going to be disruptive. So you lived here on euphoria without HBO having to serialize it? I'm at this little, like,
[01:55:15] Unknown:
open air market thing in Soho, and I'd all but bump right into Claire Danes. In the flesh? What? In the actual flesh. And instead of being like, carve your name in my chest. What did you say? I did one of those, like, little, little high. You know, like a total fucking rube from Indiana because that's what I was. What did Claire Danes smell like? Let's see. Peaches and sunshine and happiness, and I don't fucking know. Oh, this is This was a long time ago. I mean, compared to the streets of New York. I mean, it there's a distinct difference in smell when she Yeah. And she definitely is Claire CIA Danes, man. She did that show Homeland where Stephen Colbert got super mad at her for starting to talk about starting to talk about the relationship that the CIA had with people who did TV shows and stuff like that?
[01:56:26] Unknown:
Was she on my so called life with Jared Leto? I don't remember. Okay. Yes. Yes. That is correct. Okay. I didn't have that experience, but Christie did. She met Don Denver and had a big old crush on John Denver, and she drove out to him and went, you're John Denver, and drove away. So I'm beginning to feel a little bit like a slick dissident kind of going on that. Appreciate it because I think he probably had lost count of who he was and was like I do. He was like Yeah. Oh, that little girl over there said I'm John Denver. That's right. Thank god I'm a country boy. I see Chris Miner's here. I I know we kind of, started That was the John Denver. Right?
[01:57:05] allen marcus:
Yeah. John Denver, country boy, Slickdiss.
[01:57:08] Unknown:
Actually a country boy. No. No. Not at all. He was he was a he was a hippie that liked to sleep around on his wife and shit a lot. We we'd like to we'd like to collaborate with Slickdus, and I feel like I'm weaving a little web tonight even from Euphoria. Out, but I gotta be honest. I don't know what this means, so I'm not I'm not aware of where we got called out. We may have been Jets? Yeah. We may have been we may have missed it. I don't know if that was, like, meet us under the waterfall after
[01:57:41] allen marcus:
It was Criptech. September. Yeah. And we will fight. And I need a lot more. We needed a we needed a secret decoder ring to figure out what happened. We might have missed the window, the astrological timing. I I do have something here about Claire's, you know, the mall store where people will get pierced flesh. Oh, yeah. I noticed the store closure. I'd like to read to our value customers. It says, this Claire's location has been permanently closed. When he comes,
[01:58:11] Unknown:
we expect to be closed but not clothed, hungry yet full Mhmm. And and to speak to us yet be silent. Paradoxically
[01:58:23] allen marcus:
speaking, this Clare's location has been permanently closed. The decision reflects both external pressure and internal restructuring. In recent months, repeated attacks of ridicule by radical left agitators have gone beyond mere criticism escalating into a deliberate effort to destabilize our company. Conduct, we recognize as domestic economic terrorism.
[01:58:49] Unknown:
This is what the letter says. It's pretty As long as it's not stochastic terrorism, we're okay. Because as we learned last night, only words and potential violence are bad. Real world on the ground violence is easily dismissible.
[01:59:04] allen marcus:
At the same time, our transition under new private equity ownership required difficult financial choices. Protecting the stability of shareholders was prioritized, and the store, along with its local workforce, was deemed expendable in service of that obligation to the shareholders. Despite these challenges
[01:59:26] Unknown:
go ahead, Steve. Oh, no. No. No. No. I just Claire's was her second job. Right. So, yeah, I wanna know how many fucking screaming white bitches you shot in the fucking head with the little ear piercing gun. 2400
[01:59:41] allen marcus:
West Central Road, Hoffman Estates, Illinois 60192 Claire's Store Incorporated, CBI Distributing Corporation. Despite these challenges, Claire's remains committed to our identity as a traditional American company rooted in values of family and community where young
[01:59:57] Unknown:
women go to get flesh pierced and hide it from their dad until they try to Large Mexican mothers take their two year old Mexican daughters to get their ears pierced too. That
[02:00:08] allen marcus:
is true. That is true.
[02:00:10] Unknown:
Yeah. How can how many Mexican babies did you shoot up? Maybe that's in a better question. How many times do you have to, like Did you have to, like, hold their head down a little bit and then came in with the gun and the
[02:00:25] allen marcus:
New debate prompt dropped. Was Claire's or Hot Topic worse for society?
[02:00:34] Unknown:
Oh, well I'd have to go with Hot Topic. I I would probably I I could find an argument for Claire's, but, yeah, it's probably hot topic. It probably is. There was a third store in the mall.
[02:00:49] allen marcus:
Mhmm. I forget the name of it. Was it Spencer's Gifts
[02:00:55] Unknown:
with edible underwear? Gift is poor boys.
[02:00:58] allen marcus:
Edible underwear harms someone, surely, yeast infections.
[02:01:03] Unknown:
Maybe if you have a gelatin allergy. I don't know. Was it like fruit by the foot? Get to eat edible underwear? I would think that there's, like, a horse hooves contract and a yellow that would
[02:01:17] allen marcus:
Yeah. The horse hooves.
[02:01:19] Unknown:
Yeah. You guys need to stop fucking you guys are dirtying Marcus up with this talk.
[02:01:25] allen marcus:
I'm not even reading the show.
[02:01:28] Unknown:
Yeah. It's pure. I'd never purchased anything from Spencer's. I also did not steal or shop left. Don't don't fucking go lead Marcus straight thinking it's okay for him to go into Spencer's. We're gonna lose value.
[02:01:39] Unknown:
No. That's right. That's right. We do need that we do need that half Bitcoin buy in before the 2 Bitcoin
[02:01:47] Unknown:
where are you? You guys start having him hang out in Spencer's. Next thing you know, he's next thing you know, he's trying to eat fucking fruit by the foot on somebody else's crotch. Then he's not worth nothing.
[02:02:01] Unknown:
That would be really weird. That would be really weird if you, like, put fruit by the foot in a pussy and then just ate your way to it. That would be really weird.
[02:02:12] Unknown:
Dude, one time alright. Where I'm from? I I'm from South Dakota. So South Dakota. I have a lot of foot by the fruit by the foot by the foot by the foot. So they have a lot of biker parties. Star Sturgis is just the biggest one, but they have it all over in South Dakota. Big party. Oh, well, they had yeah. That one's huge. Well, there's one called the abate club party. It's outside of Aberdeen, and they rent out they rent this whole lake. So cops can't come in or nothing, and it's fucking wild. They literally roll up with a beer truck, and you can walk up to that beer truck with a five gallon bucket and fill up. It doesn't matter. It's free beer for fucking, like, the events, like, three or four days.
Well, they have a they had a, skin to win contest, they called it. And I've only and I always seen pictures of it's the fucked up part because I was so high on mushrooms. I walked with the crowd. And then when I got there, I was turning around, and I was looking up at the stars. And there was some girl, like, three feet from my head that shoved so many glow sticks up her vagina that her stomach was glowing.
[02:03:23] Unknown:
Wow.
[02:03:24] Unknown:
Yeah. I see in the pictures. And I was sitting there, like, turned around backwards staring up at the sky, just fucking mushroomed out like a motherfucker. Wow. Steve didn't even get to hear about the damn glow sticks. It's the whole point to the story.
[02:03:48] allen marcus:
Two hours, three minutes glow sticks.
[02:03:51] Unknown:
We'll play it back. We we probably don't need to clip that.
[02:03:56] allen marcus:
We don't need to, but we will. All of all of these things that we thought were new trends are very, very well, not so old trends. I'm seeing on social media, you know, you know, body modifications, sure, that they've been a thing for a while. People have modified their bodies with stick and poke tattoos and put objects under the skin so they have different textures and things. And I I don't know what platform specifically. I'll blame Snapchat, but there's an advertisement for implants, but then putting LED lights underneath the mammaries so that they do glow.
[02:04:40] Unknown:
Like Wouldn't it do that make them hot, though? Isn't that already a problem? LED lights
[02:04:45] allen marcus:
are cooler. They they run a little cooler so that you could have fan under there too? So when someone flashes you, they could actually flash you. There would be light emanating.
[02:05:00] Unknown:
They could probably And they are really are headlights from, like, the eighties when everybody sell pits headlights.
[02:05:05] allen marcus:
That's all the headlight jokes are probably going to be a hot Halloween costume this year. Oh, that's fucking funny. So there is there is humor in that. So, you know, if you're gonna be a stripper, if you're gonna be a Destiny, be a fun one. Be funny. Be entertaining. Be more than just your own skin. Have a personality, Rob. Have a personality. That was probably the deepest dig that I heard last night, his lack of personality and flexibility in life experience. Which is worse for society? Claire's, Hot Topics, and or maybe Spencer's in the mall?
[02:05:49] Unknown:
Oh, fuck.
[02:05:51] allen marcus:
Wet seal will also be thrown in there. There were there were certain women that were taught by their mothers to dress like hussies, I think. Was it was it hussy?
[02:06:02] Unknown:
Hussies. Jezebels.
[02:06:06] allen marcus:
There were there were there was two types of women in seventh grade, those who had,
[02:06:10] Unknown:
thong underwear and those who didn't. That was a clear dividing line. And those who show show Over thong underwear. Thong I was in, when I was in school, they were mostly just, granny panties with designs on them. Whale tails. That's They got they got into, like, the bikini brief, you know, where it wasn't quite so giant when I was in school, but thongs wasn't till I was an adult.
[02:06:35] allen marcus:
I remember the thongs. That thong. It's a thong. Thong. Thong. Tim. Timoney Tim. Timoney in chat. Shout out. And Bitcoin daddy was here. I thought I saw Bitcoin daddy in chat, but I don't I lost I saw Bitcoin daddy. You saw Bitcoin daddy?
[02:06:51] Unknown:
I did.
[02:06:54] Unknown:
Bunch of hustlers.
[02:06:56] Unknown:
Yeah. Back when you were got all excited because you saw some girl's underwears. Like, oh, look. Her underwear are up the crack of her ass. Sexy.
[02:07:05] allen marcus:
It's a curiosity.
[02:07:07] Unknown:
They're called cheekies now? Wait. Which one? The thongs or the bikinis? So VPL or visible panty line She says it's half in between. She says a a bikini a cheeky is not quite a thong, but not quite a bikini. It's it's a it's like having a thong that doesn't go off your butt crack. It does still. Apparently, it still does, but less less in your butt crack. Less, like, directly in the butt crack. More of a it's more of like a permanent wedgie.
[02:07:39] Unknown:
More fabric for the permanent.
[02:07:45] Unknown:
Because nobody wants a string in their butt. Something more uncomfortable. Claire's have They go on green skipper. Accessories.
[02:07:58] allen marcus:
You know, you you get that starter piercing. I don't know. Once you get your first first piercing, and then you'll get more and more and more. And then you'll get tattoos, and then you'll get STDs, and you'll get d DUIs
[02:08:12] Unknown:
and all the acronyms and things. It's it's all downhill from there. And Tattoos weren't cool yet when I was young. I was the first person I knew that got a tattoo that, like, in my I remember I was in high school still because I I got it when I on my seventeenth birthday. And then I went to wrestle, and they made me wrestle in T shirts because fucking they didn't want my tattoo showing. Uh-huh. Licorice is also uncomfortable in your ass.
[02:08:42] allen marcus:
Oh, clack licorice?
[02:08:47] Unknown:
How about those
[02:08:48] Unknown:
with anus flavored?
[02:08:53] allen marcus:
George Floyd flavored fentanyl brand licorice. Yeah.
[02:09:03] Unknown:
It tastes like fentanyl and fried chicken.
[02:09:07] allen marcus:
Well, there there was there was the issue of the exhibition of the live execution being a snuff film, but, you know, Rob was a gentleman and Marte is a catechumen. So it didn't get into the explicit nature of the snuff film that we all watch with bended knee genuflecting upon the throat of their lord and savior.
[02:09:29] Unknown:
And I did miss the thing about the glow sticks. Were the glow sticks in, like, inside people? Is that was was that the point?
[02:09:36] Unknown:
She she she jammed her he she jammed her cooter so full of glow sticks, their stomach started glowing.
[02:09:44] Unknown:
That's impressive.
[02:09:46] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean, it's frightening.
[02:09:48] Unknown:
And and I wouldn't, you know, want anybody I know's daughter to do it, but that's that's impressive.
[02:09:53] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. She won the contest. She won the contest. Or. There there was no contest.
[02:10:01] Unknown:
I'd seen on on the Twitters, like, light up titty implants.
[02:10:09] Unknown:
Yeah. So we have the back of the back of the truck. Yeah. Yep.
[02:10:13] Unknown:
And then there's apparently, like, light up butt plugs too?
[02:10:20] allen marcus:
Yes. With the sheer dress.
[02:10:22] Unknown:
I'm scared to ask a little bit, but what glows? When the I mean, I understand the plug is glowing, but The the part that you like the part that you you would, like, grab onto to insert or remove,
[02:10:34] Unknown:
I don't think it's the actual inserted plug part. I think it's just because you call it a a handle or something. I don't know the terminology.
[02:10:44] Unknown:
That. Is this like that putting a jewel on your cat's ass thing?
[02:10:48] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sorta. Except for there's a butt plug attached to you.
[02:10:54] allen marcus:
And the reels will show a woman walking through Paris, you know, under the Eiffel Tower, and then she'll start twerking and then start glowing. But you'll see it through a transparent dress, so you're not seeing things that would cause it to be removed for nudity. But you're wondering, well, where's the light coming from? There's a flashing, a noose.
[02:11:19] Unknown:
What is the We apologize, Linds. We're all children of God. We're just discussing the degeneracy of humanity in a very scornful and decrepiting fashion. Of these things. And like I said, I was Disavow. Disavow.
[02:11:32] Unknown:
And like I said, I was a good boy during the whole jamming her her cooter full of glow sticks. I was just high on mushrooms and staring at the stars like a good boy.
[02:11:43] Unknown:
I have personally never taken part in the insertion of glow sticks into any any orifice period.
[02:11:50] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm sure. Yeah. I have been to a couple of pretty weird raves. But And and and and we're gonna have to do, like, on that Rick and Morty or the where you take the memory out and then put it somewhere else to Marcus after the show now. Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah. There's people that have, like, little things that they hang over their cats' butts because got cats are always walking around showing you their ass, and they put, like, a little jewel on it to pretty it up.
[02:12:16] Unknown:
They offended my dad's.
[02:12:18] Unknown:
Ouch. Oh, that's my nuts. I know. I know. I know. It's done. Good. Oh,
[02:12:24] Unknown:
you son of a bitch. Oh, he's okay. He just got my nuts on the way up. Well, yeah, it's not okay. Intentional. Don't call him to move anymore. Let it let it let settle this for a minute. Just let it settle. Say hi above everyone.
[02:12:43] allen marcus:
Hi, Bubba, everyone. Hey, Bubba. You guys just sat on my lap enough tonight. So So what we're actually doing here is warning people of the dangers of devil's night and Halloween and encouraging celebration of Jesus ween and harvest I'm sorry. God is greater parties at churches. Usually, they'll park cars, open the trunks, and you go from car to car to receive blessings from your parishioners.
[02:13:13] Unknown:
Do not go to the Jesus wean festival at the Catholic church. Avoid that one.
[02:13:19] Unknown:
I I didn't see anybody put the glow stick stuff on their teeth before, but the actually, the funny thing is is this ties into Steve's story from earlier. The first time I ever drank an opium drink, I got a somebody smuggled it in, a friend of mine, and we took all and we covered all the windows with blankets. So it was pitched completely dark in the house, and then broke glow sticks and poked holes in the end and taped them to the ceiling fan and fucking turned it on while we were all fucking gacked out from that opium drink.
[02:13:51] Unknown:
Oh, that was fucking wild. Oh, I bet. Glass. What Had to be great.
[02:13:56] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. It was pretty great. Not gonna lie. And and and dogs roll in dead animals to how to so that way your life is miserable. I am fairly sure of that. Dogs roll in dead shit because they can,
[02:14:11] Unknown:
and they want you to they secretly want you to bathe them.
[02:14:16] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:14:17] Unknown:
Yeah. Right? Yeah. No. We're not encouraging any of this degenerate behavior.
[02:14:29] allen marcus:
This is a warning. Now there is a level of rebellion that some people go through the phase. Some people remain in that rebellious stage for far too long, and this sort of having having to experience a bit of a to then say, well, that's too far. These are the these are the boundaries. That's too far. Whereas someone like
[02:14:57] Unknown:
Whenever someone to digest the Okay.
[02:15:01] allen marcus:
Declares himself to be a degenerate He'll chase that fucking mirror off. Wants people to watch his home movies. He shares them to his Discord servers, and he puts them in DMs. He want he what did you think of this? Like, rate my perform and this type of thing. That sort of degenerate behavior. So is that worse for society, or was George Floyd worse? Well, George Floyd's riding across the globe, across the world
[02:15:32] Unknown:
had no Marcus already tried to be a Calvinist. He went in there and he was like, I'm a Calvinist? Like, you're not Calvin y enough for the Calvin club. He's like, I'm not Calvin y enough for the Calvin club. And then they took the video down, so he can't be It was audio only.
[02:15:50] Unknown:
Audio. Audio. My bad audio.
[02:15:54] allen marcus:
They did not show their faces. They were confessing in shame.
[02:16:00] Unknown:
They all have freaking freaking crusade night avatars and shit like that. They were waiting
[02:16:09] allen marcus:
for me to be a Calvinist full of sloppy theology for them to prove to Jay and the other guy, and Drew Wilson named after a volleyball company, I believe.
[02:16:26] Unknown:
That is correct. Wilson. Wilson.
[02:16:33] allen marcus:
They wanted to impress their Orthodox peers by trapping a Calvinist slop theology and then defending their own faith. And I was bear fucking trash. Scooping up. I was not the person they wanted to debate, but no one else showed up. So they let me in. I spoke. I asked some questions. I got some answers. And, you know, they have some interesting belief structures. Our argument against orthodoxy has to do with the weird people who pull people into weird Twitter spaces without lights on and cameras on, and they're whispering and saying strange things and recording it and wanting to share it with their peers. And it was it's a terminally online
[02:17:16] Unknown:
We're talking bad about me. The light's not off. Christy had to go make sure the dogs don't have a bear tie trapped on top of the chicken coop again.
[02:17:24] allen marcus:
Okay. That's
[02:17:27] Unknown:
fair. Yeah. He's like a he's like a bear fighter now. He's not it's not McLickens. It's lick his bear fighter.
[02:17:33] allen marcus:
Lickens bear fighter versus timid grappler round one.
[02:17:38] Unknown:
Yeah. That timid grappler wasn't so timid, but Lucas went out there and fucking chased him on top of the chicken coop and had him treed up on top of the chicken coop. The boldness of the formerly timid grappler
[02:17:51] allen marcus:
is charted around full moons and Halloweens and Jesus wings. That sort of period of time starts getting darker at night just before the frost hits, before the sun true holy water from the Jesus wing.
[02:18:10] Unknown:
Mhmm. Yeah. Which always just I and I realize that they got this from the Christianity, but it always just remembers reminds me of that, bordello of blood that tale tale from the Crip movie and where they're like, this cross has a little bit of Jesus blood that keeps re getting refilled with other dudes' bloods. That's what they told me about the oil. And a little bit of it's Jesus blood still.
[02:18:35] allen marcus:
They have this
[02:18:36] Unknown:
bowl of It's like sourdough.
[02:18:39] allen marcus:
2,000 years old.
[02:18:41] Unknown:
Yeah. It's like the mother. It's the mother. Yeah. The original
[02:18:45] allen marcus:
drop of oil remains, and it multiplies, and they keep refilling it. So they have this original barrel of oil somewhere that they keep tapping when they need it, and then they replenish it. But it's an ongoing, un schism lineage of unbrokenness. They are the original originals of all originality, originating from the original oil that they have. And that's Marcus kind of Marcus
[02:19:18] Unknown:
is like non Euclidean geometry. There is no explaining it. You can't make a a model for it. It just is.
[02:19:32] Unknown:
Yeah. No. I mean, clearly, as you can tell from the screen right now, Marcus lives in a pineapple under the sea.
[02:19:44] allen marcus:
I am SpongeBob. No pants. Bitcoin daddy. Where are you? I need you tonight. Bitcoin daddy. That could also be a been pale and porous as he. Bitcoin daddy. We only want two of them. No gender differentiation. Yeah. Whatever it is. You are Bitcoin daddy when you have Bitcoin.
[02:20:07] Unknown:
You might be able to get the holy oil for sex lube. I saw that they were handing out the the ashes from the from the red cat from the red hat. Ash. I mean, I mean You know you know you know the small hats. They're all about their moisturizing. Moitendizing. Moitendizing.
[02:20:25] allen marcus:
You know, they're gonna moisturize the juice boxes.
[02:20:30] Unknown:
They love
[02:20:32] Unknown:
it. They keep threatening a space balls too with the actual
[02:20:37] Unknown:
that's a real thing. It's a real thing. It is. Has it been released?
[02:20:42] Unknown:
Has it been come back
[02:20:45] Unknown:
and just offend the fuck out of everybody. I don't know. Destiny and Rob Noor had best get together in their hatred for Mel Brooks or else this ain't shit.
[02:20:59] allen marcus:
Right. We're getting more Game of Thrones. We're getting more Spaceballs. We're getting more James Bond with less gun play, less foreplay, and less women probably. We're getting more Harry Potter just like the old Harry Potter.
[02:21:24] Unknown:
Weird. I didn't watch it. I'm harvesting, and my dad's here, and we're just doing a lot of work. We're trying to make a duck pond right now. I got a video loaded up with dad pulling, some of the fallen trees out of that area. The duck pond? About,
[02:21:42] Unknown:
30 feet from the chicken coop. Oh, okay. In that area, that's where we're kinda If you're still
[02:21:48] Unknown:
over there. Yeah. Okay. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah. Where it's kinda slewy anyways. Mhmm. And and them trees are all die have all died, so they were all falling down anyways. And they were in, like, a big pickup stick pile, but being held up by one big tree. So, like, hell to try and get down. So I cut so I cut them, and, of course, they stayed up in those trees, and then we had dad come out with that backhoe. Yeah. And we're gonna pick a duck pond. And then for our medical grow next year, we'll use that duck pond water full of shit for our garden and shit. Alright.
[02:22:24] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:22:26] Unknown:
Duck shit. I saw a really neat setup in Sonoma County where they had, like, rabbit hutches with a mesh floor that dropped into a fish pond and, like, be a duck pond or whatever. Nice. And then everything from that water went and fed the GROW. That's the ROOMS Gold rabbit emulsion and fish emulsion that went into, the the GROW water. And, man, dude, those plants were giant.
[02:23:01] allen marcus:
Yeah. Rube Goldberg machines.
[02:23:04] Unknown:
That's a sweet setup. I want the my other project I wanna do over the winter here this year is I wanna get a worm farm started. It started to pull up. So I can have
[02:23:14] Unknown:
topias that are, like, three feet high that you just load up with coffee grounds and, like, random kitchen scraps and stuff like that. Oh, they're great, dude. Yeah. Yeah. No. I'm a fan. My brother had one of those. It fucking yeah.
[02:23:33] Unknown:
Their whole yard was Between that and the pack of shit and the and the duck water, I think I I ought to be I ought to be really styling.
[02:23:41] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:23:45] Unknown:
Yeah. We had to we had to add a little extra. Our stuff went so wild this year. We started having we had to over the winter this year, I think what we're gonna do is is take tarps and keep the water from washing stuff away, and we're gonna pound it with coffee grounds and egg shells and stuff. We had a I had to cal mag this garden pretty seriously this year. We started getting some end rot, so I had to cal mag it. Mhmm. And I thought I I thought we should be good with that, but apparently not. It's so wet.
[02:24:14] Unknown:
Well, it's it's so fucking wet.
[02:24:17] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. How wet was it? Well, let's ask fuck. I can't pull her name out. The wet ass pussy chick.
[02:24:29] Unknown:
Wetter than Nicki Minaj in the whole house.
[02:24:32] allen marcus:
Yeah. Yeah. Taylor Swift. It was wetter than Taylor Swift.
[02:24:36] Unknown:
I I don't I don't even It's all You know what, dude? I fucking I'll because I guess she apparently dropped the new album because Instagram is making fun of it. Yes. And so I've seen a whole bunch of reels where, like, this is the Taylor Swift album, and it's just unseasoned chicken with, like, plain macaroni noodles.
[02:24:58] allen marcus:
Well, Taylor Swift has always been that basic bitch over there. She's always been the blonde hair,
[02:25:07] Unknown:
blue eyed. I think the difference this time is that, like, half the songs are about, Travis Kelce's dick. Where whereas on previous albums, the that that wasn't the case. But now, like, her entire album is like, my husband's a multimillionaire
[02:25:25] allen marcus:
football player with big cock, and yours not yours isn't. Which is the same. Yeah. That's true. I'm never gonna be a professional football player. She wants to be not a musician anymore. She's tired of dressing up and dancing on stage for me.
[02:25:43] Unknown:
I I I admit. I I I'm not a professional football player, but I also I don't have to be, married to fucking Napoleon Dynamite.
[02:25:53] Unknown:
Tim Timoney gets line of the day so far. Yeah.
[02:25:58] allen marcus:
Taylor Swift.
[02:25:59] Unknown:
Alright. I don't gotta be married to that. Could you imagine how fucking annoying and entitled that chick is? Mm-mm. I I don't know if Rob Northtongue moves fast enough to make that thing happy and shut the fuck up. My favorite Taylor Swift meme
[02:26:14] Unknown:
is her, like, just standing, and it's got Hank Hill holding a level to her house and her back. And he's like, yep. That's plum. Quail shit is phenomenal fertilizer. Alright. Alright. Believe that. Yeah.
[02:26:37] Unknown:
I believe that. We got a lot of wild quail out here. I tried I I so it's kind of a sad story, but the only quail we had some guy that was out here, like I said, earlier, we had people that came and stayed with us. Well, one of those folks brought button quail with him. He apparently didn't know very much about button quail, and button quail do this thing where they jump up, straight up. And so they need to have a cage that's fairly high because if they do that, they'll kill themselves if the if the cage is very isn't high. And he thought some predator had somehow killed them and left them there because he had this cage where the head was too low. Well, only one of them survived.
And so I kept that bug and quail for quite a while. Well, then I I felt bad for it, so I ordered it some friends, and it's the only time I ever tried to mail order. And it's when I first got the experience of how horrible the mail is out where I live. And you bet them little quails came dead, so never did that shit again. But I had a little buck quail there. Yeah. Just quails sent to you? It used to talk it used to talk to me. Like, I figured it we've you know, and it had this whole Lucky. Yeah. We called her lucky because it was the only one that survived, and it it it it depending on what it wanted, it do, either a it do, like, a little lilting. Like, they do a like, and and it it it was telling what you wanted. Three. There's no three or four. Yeah.
[02:28:10] allen marcus:
So if someone subscribes to the Benjamin Balderson channel and then becomes a member of the bell Benjamin Balderson channel, are there going to be some private wolf whistle lesson videos that are members only? Some private what? Wolf whistle videos where you teach different quail calls and duck calls and duck dynasty. You take over the duck dynasty with some Dove is the only one that I'm pretty efficient at. Cuckoo. I'm pretty good at dove calls. Cooing
[02:28:36] Unknown:
sounds? Yeah. The dove one, you do this you do this Ben did a lot of time in prison, so his dove call is you draw a set. So
[02:28:49] allen marcus:
I'm thinking of the minuscule lottery.
[02:28:53] Unknown:
The the the dogs are answering the the the call. Yeah. The dogs the dogs got it. They they they were like They're like, fuck. There's a dove. Our our mortal enemy.
[02:29:05] allen marcus:
Well, Thanksgiving is quickly approaching.
[02:29:08] Unknown:
My old boss my old boss Blue was a a turkey collar, like a world champion turkey collar and a turkey guide. Like, they used to fly him out to go do turkey hunts, and he'd call him in. We'd be at work. We'd drive by on from his house to load up in Ben Lomond, drive out to this job in, like, Zion. And on the way, half the time, we'd see the pass by a whole bunch of fucking wild turkeys. And we get to the job, and he just and for whatever the fuck it it is. And I swear to God, twenty five minutes later, he just randomly and fucking within a half an hour, they just start coming up the driveway. Wow. Like, you don't have these fuckers to them. And then we're like, oh, we can't even shoot them. Meat sure meat. The lady that owns this property, we get super mad at us if we just slaughtered a bunch of fucking turkey. Knowing goddamn well, there's a couple of guns in the truck. Like, we could have you know? You take one for dinner. Really easy.
[02:30:18] allen marcus:
Yeah. Take one for dinner.
[02:30:21] Unknown:
Christy had this this little fucking, flock of white turkeys, and, she called them her protectors because they really would. They'd run around and chase garter they were her guard turkeys. Mhmm. And there were these they they were these white ones. And I used to walk outside, and when they would sit in front of the porch here and wait for Christy all the time. And I'd walk outside, and I'd look at this just jet this little fucking flock of white turkeys, and I'd yell, white power. They're fucking made me laugh so hard.
[02:30:57] Unknown:
You can't make jokes like that in Colorado anymore. Two hours. No. Thirty minutes. Trust me. I know. Clip it. Okay.
[02:31:05] allen marcus:
Clip it. Oh, fuck. That would make me laugh. Send that to send that to Dusty.
[02:31:10] Unknown:
What power?
[02:31:11] allen marcus:
Can we talk a little bit about Dusty for a moment? I mean, if you were to, it's it's years old. How how big of a how big of a bully Dusty is on some open panels sometimes?
[02:31:22] Unknown:
Are are you referring to the after panel where he The powdered
[02:31:26] allen marcus:
Dusty. Yes. The situation which
[02:31:32] Unknown:
was probably misunderstood by many. Well, well, Dusty's taken a position and it and he's not wrong that the right is being equally as divisive and crazy, and I brought that up during the debate even Mhmm. That you can't you can't say that, Destiny's rhetoric is, extraordinarily detrimental and divisive to society without then and then also have your whole side, including his boss, Andrew Wilson, going, this is war. Well, I know what war means. Fucking I've been to war. Get the fuck out of here. Stochastic
[02:32:10] allen marcus:
terrorism.
[02:32:12] Unknown:
I've been to war, so you can't sit there and call for war with the left. And at the same time, say that their rhetoric is divisive and harmful to cite, which I don't disagree. Their rhetoric is. I don't disagree even. Like, calling everybody a Yahtzee and, and then, calling everybody a fascist, things like that. Well, when you when that rhetoric just the year before was it's okay to it's okay to punch a Yahtzee, and then you run around calling everybody Yahtzis. Well, fuck. Like, of course, you've we can see what you're saying, but then in the same token, calling for war with the other side.
And the thing is is is one of the other points that we made was this horrible rhetoric of destinies and and a lot of other people in the affiliated with Democrats has actually pushed more people away than when it's garnered. I do agree with with Rob where he said it's it's cauterized the the base, you know, or galvanized the base. Mhmm. But, it's pushed more away. And this is the thing I've talked about with Steve for years. We're reaching that tipping point where the majority is gonna be tired of this minority because that's what it's becoming. And when they go to move the Overton window back, it's not gonna be the thirty, forty year slide that it has been to the left. It's gonna go from giantly to the left, wham o, to the right.
[02:33:51] allen marcus:
Yes. And and and Marty said that, you know, despite all the property damage and and terrible things that happened to small businesses, maybe some of those businesses were black owned. Maybe some were women owned businesses. Most probably given the areas that the business that the most destruction happened, it was probably
[02:34:09] Unknown:
if if not black, at least minority. Sure. So We can we can fairly comfortably say that almost all those businesses were minority owned. So despite the destruction to privately owned
[02:34:20] allen marcus:
minority businesses, good honest people in, cosmopolitan community that that provide interesting foods and spices and whatever they're selling. You know, they're selling have rooftop Koreans if they were all black. Right. Right? Diversity is our greatest flavor flavorful strengths, I think, is is what we're saying. We we love the cosmopolitan area. We go to the city when we wanna eat something that isn't steak and potatoes or whatever taco stand is open in, you know, Midwest somewhere. So we go to Minneapolis. We go to Saint Paul. That's where the interesting restaurants are. Many of them everything a taco stand now?
[02:34:59] Unknown:
I mean, it's either Asian or tacos. That's the only fucking
[02:35:04] allen marcus:
steak houses have closed down for some reason. There there aren't very many up here. I know about the top of the list. Because because they've slowly,
[02:35:13] Unknown:
killed off the beef industry. That that that do it. The amount of cows we have in the country shockingly fucking low. Shockingly The demand for beef is high. Skyrocketed.
[02:35:28] allen marcus:
Yes.
[02:35:29] Unknown:
Yes. This is something that we frequently talk about on AM wake up and have the best person on the planet in Texas Slim with beef initiative to do so. He grew up in the Panhandle, which is, you know, OG cattle country.
[02:35:48] Unknown:
Can't do anything else with that land.
[02:35:51] Unknown:
Right? We've spent at at this point well, Slim and I have spent, like, four years in collaboration, you know, trying to talk about this. And, yeah, herd levels at, halfway through the year are down to the lowest that they've ever been recorded in The US. It's a it's a huge problem. There are a lot of people that are downright
[02:36:20] Unknown:
downright, unwanted sexual attentiony.
[02:36:25] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:36:27] Unknown:
Like like like, when I even when I first moved to California, hay was, like, $12 or $13 a bail, and I was like, what the fucking fuck? Are you kidding me? What is wrong with you fucking people? Why would you think that a bale of hay is worth 13 $33 a bale right now? Wow. Yeah. You go down to the fucking Red Way Feed, $33 a bale. You know how many bales of fucking hay a cow eats?
[02:36:55] allen marcus:
Oh, I thought it was decoration for harvest vessels at churches where they celebrate Jesus' win. Like, what one miniature cow goes through fucking goes through three bales a week. They're for hay rights. You put them on a trailer, and the people sit on the hay bales, and they ride around. Dollars a week for one miniature cow.
[02:37:14] Unknown:
Like, that is unfeasible. Straw, bales, and hay bales. Have a giant piece of land that you have set aside for either heavy grazing all year long or have enough land that you could set aside, hey. How do you make it when you cost you a $100 a week to feed a mini cow? Mhmm.
[02:37:37] allen marcus:
Yeah.
[02:37:42] Unknown:
We just gotta make sure you got a good need for you.
[02:37:44] Unknown:
Good on that. That is just a pile of fat on the outside of the meat. Not good marbling. Lot yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[02:37:55] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Lizzo definitely not grass fed, grass finished.
[02:37:59] Unknown:
No. Yeah. No. That's what I'm saying. I'd have to bail my own hay, and I live out in the mountains. I don't have flats that big that I could even I would have to own, like, a thousand acres in order to come up with enough flatland to have spare room to to bale hay. So I've had to be bailing on my and so just it's just a nonsense system. The price of cattles went up substantially, crazy up,
[02:38:30] Unknown:
like, wildly high. Oh, at the auction house? Yeah, dude. Yeah. Alright. That's a whole that's a whole different scam. You know, I've got, like, a ground floor education in all of this over the last four years because of Slim. And, dude, it they're they're so, like Dude, I see something that we we freaking industry that quite literally fed America and helped build it and turned it into this, like, boutique thing that is damn near impossible for any small family farm to maintain. Yeah. It's the all in the name of giving it to Brazilian and Chinese manufacturers.
[02:39:22] Unknown:
Dude, three three seventy three seventy five a 100 weight, I saw at at the auction house. Three seventy five a 100 weight. Are you fucking serious here right now? Yeah.
[02:39:34] Unknown:
Yeah. And there's no processing centers. Like, you've got a shipment four and a half, six hours away
[02:39:42] Unknown:
in order to get them processed. Yeah. The one in Humboldt closed down. Mhmm.
[02:39:48] Unknown:
There's a a lady in Sonoma County that has a mobile processing center, and she'll come to your ranch, to your farm, process your cow, but, you know, it costs.
[02:40:00] allen marcus:
Oh, this is good for my horror movie. Tell me about the mobile slaughter mobile. It's mobile that moves around in the slaughter Yes. Slaughter truck can come to your house and then
[02:40:12] Unknown:
slaughter you? Got you. I mean, at the end of the day, it's no different than a deer. It's just a lot bigger. You know what I'm saying? And it and, you know, she probably has the air the air gun refrigerated? With the air gun that shoots the little bolt in the Air gun is being executed with sawzalls. Yeah. You know? But you just hang you just hang it up. The the really, the thing that you need is either a very steady a very sturdy place with a chain hoist or a forklift. You know? Well, depending on how big that that steer is or whatever. Maybe a front heavy duty forklift.
[02:40:49] allen marcus:
Yeah. I see I see far too many white teal deer prancing around. There's no threat against them. They're just prancing around all over the place. Waiting to come in contact with the Ford Explorer. Shaking
[02:41:04] Unknown:
their tails out. Grumple that new Ford Explorers. That thing and white tailed. Yeah. That new Ford Explorers.
[02:41:10] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Well, when I went up No. That's a the Jason, that's a secondary issue. The that's a downstream issue is that they're consolidated to place. That's not that's a secondary issue. The primary issue is that even forty years ago, every county in America where you raise cattle had its own processing center. Those all went away because
[02:41:42] Unknown:
mostly liberals who were like, I don't wanna live by a slaughterhouse.
[02:41:46] Unknown:
Okay. But then I actually for as much as Steve's putting some shitty voice on that, I do get. I understand it. Not just liberals. I personally would never live in a city with a slaughter plant. I understand it. To draw the worst people in the world in your city.
[02:42:03] Unknown:
But but what happened was there was mass consolidation in processing. So in order to accommodate mass consolidation and processing, there was mass consolidation in where people ranched because they didn't wanna have to take all of, you know, however many head of cattle, however many hours away to go get it processed.
[02:42:30] Unknown:
At one point in time, I was almost paying $8 a gallon for fuel here. $8 a gallon. You ain't it ain't it ain't taking you long to lose money if you're hauling a herd somewhere.
[02:42:41] Unknown:
Yeah. You I mean, the amount the the amount in time spent rounding, you know, every single head of cattle up that you wanna go process, getting them loaded up, and then the hundreds upon hundreds of dollars in fuel that you're just lighting on fire on the road to take it there. Plus, it's you have to get a hotel room for two or three days and wait until they're all processed so that you can take it back. Plus, now on your return trip, you have to have somebody else come up with a freezer truck in order to haul it so it stays fresh. So now you're paying fuel costs for two separate vehicles. Sure. You're deadheading back to your ranch, but there's the freezer truck.
Like, it's it's ridiculous.
[02:43:40] allen marcus:
Well, living in a community, you have one sacred cow. Yes. Slaughter it. And every everyone everyone eats. They bring their, different salads, a lot of mayonnaise based salads, mustard based salads. There's different categories of salads, but you go to the pig roast, and everyone just feast on the pig until there's no pig left. That's the efficient way of doing it. If that's what orthodox bros wanna do, they wanna compete against Lutheran churches for better potlucks, slaughter the animal in the morning, and then by noon, you have
[02:44:13] Unknown:
booty I mean, if if they back off on the stinky fish, they got my vote.
[02:44:20] allen marcus:
Right. I mean, they're probably not doing pig roast because, you know, kosher and pork and whatever. But, you know, beef, goat, quail, turkey, other animals, certainly. I know the big popular thing in the Midwest, especially in Minnesota, are meat raffles. People will go play bingo hoping to win meat prizes. It's very important. Oh, yeah.
[02:44:44] Unknown:
I I I wanna see the rest of this conversation where Ben window breaks as Ben flies through window. That's hilarious.
[02:44:55] allen marcus:
Tim Timoney. We have to scroll up. There's such a small window
[02:45:00] Unknown:
and a tiny, tiny fog. My cigarette, and I missed it.
[02:45:04] allen marcus:
That's alright.
[02:45:06] Unknown:
I'm hoping So real quick, dude, because Jason has a good point here. Point was a consolidation. It's about putting the poison crap in them on top of the slice of profits. If you want to avoid that, you can go to beefmaps.com and find a local rancher near you that doesn't put crap into their cattle. You can go to texasslimscuts.com, and those two places will at least show you you don't have to order through them. You don't. But what it will give you is an idea of where ranchers and producers in your community exist, and then you can go and you can have a handshake relationship with the the people who grow the food that you're gonna put in your body.
So if you can't do it yourself, there are people around you that do that. And you you almost everyone, at least in America, has the ability within twenty to 30 miles of having a handshake relationship with the people that grow and produce the food that you wanna eat.
[02:46:20] Unknown:
Right. As long as it's not like, you know, pull make it into your grocery store. The thing is is the it it's not that the it's people actually push for these regulations because people, like, go and complain. Every asshole that complains that they got salmonella and and what every other foodborne disease, they're the ones that get this regulation. We get what we ask for. And the problem is at some point in time, only the big boys can can do this regulation. Yeah. They caught so much money to get into the game that only the people who are already preexistingly rich can get into it. A perfect example of this is the cannabis community in Northern California at this point.
The the licensing and requirements are so are so fucking financially prohibitive to start out with that unless that the the big grow that I talk about that's in between me and Garberville, that's owned by this the air of the Sears Roebuck fucking corporation. Mhmm. Like, it's people like that that are growing. It drives all the mom and pops out of business, and that's all done through regulation. And so and the thing is is most people don't want to drive to the milk to the milk farm to get their milk and the cattle farm to get their cat to get their beef. I understand milk in is from cows also, but you don't usually eat too much milk cow. It's it's they're primarily milk cow, dairy or meat cows are usually meat cows.
They don't wanna drive to all these places because that's inconvenient. The supermarket is convenient. Not only is the supermarket convenient, the Super Walmart's even more convenient. I can get everything I want, my my dry goods and my fucking groceries.
[02:48:15] Unknown:
This is the the the current amount of ranchers, on beef maps right now.
[02:48:21] allen marcus:
Look at those beefy dudes. Zoom in on some of them.
[02:48:25] Unknown:
Sure. Wow. But a lot of people on the East Coast, we which is kinda surprising, but in California and, again, these are just people that signed up for the the it this does not represent the total amount of ranchers. It's just the people that that signed up through beef maps. But there are plenty. You know? It it's not like we're lacking for people who want to deliver decent freaking products.
[02:48:57] Unknown:
And and the whole thing is is this is a mutual relationship because like myself, because I don't vaccinate my cattle, I don't give them my cattle aren't grain fed. They straight up no vaccines, no medicines, no nothing. They get minerals and hay. And but because of that, I'm not allowed to to sell my cattle in a commercial way because I haven't given them the proper vaccines, haven't done all this other stuff to make sure that they're safe and did all this other shit. So unless you guys go to people like this and purchase the cattle, they can't sell they can't sell their beef.
So this is this is what forces them to be small and obscure because they don't get enough customers. They're like the WNBA. Right? Just not enough of a fan base to support the industry. So if you guys want that, you have to actually go get that. You have to actually get your beef from a local provider, and then that will start supporting them. And while you're never gonna go get it in a grocery store, you will empower them to start growing and being able to supply you with quality food.
[02:50:20] allen marcus:
And George Floyd made grocery stores worse for society.
[02:50:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Fuck the farmers markets. Yeah. That's why I didn't even talk about the farmers markets. Go to the farm. The farmers markets, they're all rammed by some fucking queen karen, and she's out there to force out force every stupid libtard rule you could imagine. And they charge a freaking ass ton. Like, where I'm from, when it comes harvest season, you just see guys on the side of the road in the back of their pickups with with fucking vegetables jammed in the back. Like, screw that. Cows are wonderful. We do all need cows.
[02:51:03] allen marcus:
The farmer's market has to get a license in the Chamber of Commerce, and there's so much involved with it. And then they have operating hours too, so they they close. They have to be closed by noon if they have a license to be in the parking lot at noon, then it's gotta shut down. It's like, how can you how can you have limited hours on a farmer's market during harvest season when some people don't wake up until afternoon? If you wake up in the afternoon, you missed the farmer's market for the week. What are you gonna do?
[02:51:32] Unknown:
Wait for all the ladies that grew, like, eight tomatoes, and they're like, look. These are eight perfectly done tomatoes. I want $9 a piece for them. Like, get the fuck out of here, Karen. We're not this is a farmer's market. There ain't no farmers at the farmer's market. It's all Karens that grew fucking eight tomatoes in their backyard and want a mint Yeah. Fucking dirty pussy ass hairy armpit having hippie bitches that fucking look down their nose at you for showing up to want good food. Yeah. And they're selling three d printed dragons and other accessories
[02:52:04] allen marcus:
purchased from China. It's more of a market and less of a
[02:52:09] Unknown:
food place for farmers to sell their I agree with Hinterlands here that the regenerative movement is promising. 100%, there is. And there's really, really, really good people with some measure of influence like Joel Salatin that are pushing this thing super hard at a nationwide level. Then there's people like my friend Slim that are going all over the planet while going state to state to state to develop these handshake relationships and get people who were trying to save their farm by getting in with, you know, like Walmart or whatever going, oh, we've got locally real sustainable sustainably harvested blah blah blah blah. No. That's not what they're doing. They're just buying a brand, yanking all of your cattle, and doing whatever the fuck they want to with them after that and making you jab them up. So what,
[02:53:09] Unknown:
They're gonna be the new Tyson chicken of cows.
[02:53:12] Unknown:
That's what they're trying to do. Well, that's what JBS is trying to do as a a Brazilian mega conglomerate. And there's, like, one skinny motherfucker from, you know, the Texas Panhandle going no. No. And I got a bunch of cowboys behind me that are also going no. So I I really like, I can't say enough kind of like a buddy standoff. I was people were giving me shit last time Slim was on. They're like, oh, you're just doing an infomercial. Fuck yeah. Because you guys haven't fired your grocery store yet. It's not me.
[02:53:50] allen marcus:
Commercial.
[02:53:51] Unknown:
But wait. Not talking about while you were gone, Steve. I mean Like you you don't support these guys. These guys can't get into the grocery stores. They've made rules against it. A 100%.
[02:54:02] Unknown:
And, look, if you have to go into a grocery store, do the perimeter lap.
[02:54:08] allen marcus:
Right? Everything that's on them fucking aisles ain't for you. Well, they've changed it, Steve. They they changed it. So the first thing you see when you walk into grocery like stores are the quick meals, the the prepared stuff that's already wrapped up. And then you get the chocolates and the sugars and the cookies and the breads. So the produce section is shrinking smaller and smaller and smaller. Yep. And it's worse and worse quality.
[02:54:37] Unknown:
Yep. Really lucky where I live right now, there's a hometown market, family owned and operated since 1929. Mhmm. And fucking they do not fuck around with what they put on their shelves. They don't. And all of, you know, their meat, all of their poultry, even the very limited amount of seafood that they have, they can tell you the name of the person that raised it, the name of the person that caught it, when it came in, how long it's been there, and fucking everything that's in it before you purchase it. Like, they're really fucking good about that. Shout out to to Mill Valley Market. Like, they they they do shit right. California
[02:55:25] Unknown:
is the best place I've ever been in this country for that kind of thing. Like like, it's a really shitty expensive place to live as far as every other way, and it's shitty expensive for this. These places are not cheap. But, the quality of food that we get that we have available to us up here and just like I just saw the comment about the Walmart and puking from the Walmart burger. The last time I got Christy, we were broke as fuck, and I got Christy some meat from Winco, and she said, don't even get me that. Mhmm. Like, it's not worth eating. Like, she's too used to getting the Wagyu's.
Well and it doesn't even have to be, like, Wagyu. It really doesn't like, the look Well, the Wagyu she gets is also from a small farm that we're getting it direct, you know, and all that shit. So, I mean, it's American Wagyu. You know? It's a I just tease her because it's Wagyu.
[02:56:22] Unknown:
There's just there I'll fucking I'll fight anybody over this. The best cut of the cow is what they call either the Kansas City steak or the the Kansas City cut or the picanha cut.
[02:56:39] Unknown:
How do you spell picanha? P I P I picanha cut. So I actually got her a full blood picanha one, and I think she thought that was the best slice she's ever
[02:56:51] Unknown:
And hands there's rib eye, go fuck yourself.
[02:56:54] Unknown:
Okay. I Yeah. In fact, it might have even been aged full blood pecan you that shit. Yeah. New York Strip, don't care. Don't care. Bitcoin Bitcoin daddy, I'm
[02:57:04] allen marcus:
slurring for a pecan. Yeah. Cut if you could give me that Kansas City pizza. The best cut.
[02:57:11] Unknown:
I I don't I don't and and look. Try it for yourself. Mhmm. You know, no. Collette steaks are different. Cut. Colette is more than Kansas City. It's not the kind He's the guy that dated Lewis Morissette.
[02:57:24] allen marcus:
Yeah. Cut it out. The Colette guy, Dave Colette. Didn't he date Lewis Morissette? Right. He did. He did. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm here
[02:57:34] Unknown:
to remind you.
[02:57:38] allen marcus:
So Taylor Swift has a reaction to Madonna.
[02:57:42] Unknown:
All from twins. Like, I wanna I wanna do,
[02:57:47] allen marcus:
a weave with Yeah. This word salad people
[02:57:51] Unknown:
and stick this in and into metaphysical people.
[02:57:55] allen marcus:
And out of the way. The metaphysical, Kabbalistic Madonna. She's metaphysical, mystical Madonna, and she's doing a Kabbalah class, apparently. And we need to talk about that slick dissident. I'm looking at you, Chris. Let him know. Chris Miner over there passed the word on to that bunch. We need to collaborate on what is Madonna doing? You've been called out,
[02:58:21] Unknown:
slip. This isn't it. Next Tuesday, 06:00, Thunderdome. Two minute tour, one man lead. I believe so. We have a flat iron. By the way, just because his sterno knows his cuts to be yet there's a slight difference in where you cut and how you cut between a picanha and a coulette. You have the same general area from the cow, different cut. Coulette steaks are very good. I'm not trying to shit on them. I'm just saying the picanha is better. No. But I agree that it's an excellent cut. We have a a flat iron in the fridge right now. I'm a I'm a grill that shit up tomorrow.
[02:59:01] allen marcus:
Hell, yeah. Your Oregon doesn't lean left or right, then no sexy time for you boo boo barker is the hashtag. Boo boo barker.
[02:59:12] Unknown:
Are you back up from the mic while yelling? Yeah. You're supposed to
[02:59:17] Unknown:
if you're if you're gonna project, you wanna you wanna go ahead and give, like, a full full mic.
[02:59:22] allen marcus:
Maybe two. That's a black phallus.
[02:59:25] Unknown:
Apparently, that's No. I Yeah. No, dude. We had a we had a great flank steak last week. We got a flat iron in the fridge
[02:59:33] Unknown:
right now that I'm gonna cook up tomorrow. Everybody everybody look at the thing you you accidentally saw, Christie. Look. Look at the bright light. Yep.
[02:59:43] allen marcus:
Flash. Reset. Okay. Pull your titties out. Put them back away. Okay. Everyone
[02:59:51] Unknown:
has been reset. My wife's titties are not out. The mystical
[02:59:54] allen marcus:
Madonna, a kabbalistic
[02:59:56] Unknown:
thread to untangle. Her titties route, I would not be able to concentrate on the show. She's a ray of light,
[03:00:03] allen marcus:
this Madonna,
[03:00:04] Unknown:
this virginal, like, a rare singer. Route, I would be puking.
[03:00:10] allen marcus:
Yes. She's leading a course at the Ka'Bala Center.
[03:00:17] Unknown:
Oh. Even when she was in that weird, sexy movie where they tried to do, like, during the basic instinct era when they were making, like, ultra sexualized, racy, b and d, s and m type things Yeah. On in, movies, and they showed her body in that. Rosie O'Donnell did one of those.
[03:00:40] Unknown:
Rosey O'Donnell. Road to Wellville. Calm down. Rosie O'Donnell
[03:00:45] allen marcus:
wore the,
[03:00:46] Unknown:
the the Oh, god. Now I gotta do this thing on my own head to get that out.
[03:00:52] Unknown:
So if you take a flank steak, Tom, and you slice it in half longways, it turns into a skirt steak, basically. Skirt steak. Because your your flank steaks are about, like, an inch and a half inch thick. Slice them long ways, and then you've got four giant pieces of skirt steak.
[03:01:17] Unknown:
When are you coming up here to to cook some meat and teach me things?
[03:01:24] Unknown:
Yeah. That's the shitter for Christy. She doesn't know how to cook very well on the meat, and then she's the one who eats the meat.
[03:01:32] allen marcus:
So we'll get a mobile processing center vehicle.
[03:01:36] Unknown:
We will drive it Terry and I ain't cooking your meat. Almost, Christy, almost everything in a cast iron as long as you get it super hot and throw a little avocado oil. Almost every cook time is between four and a half to five minutes a side. Flip that shit and then tint it under some foil or something like that for about four or five more minutes. Foil in our house? A lid. A lid. Works well. Yeah. Tint it. Just any any sort of covering over it. Let it let it continue to cook.
[03:02:06] Unknown:
We used it all up on our hats. He wasn't even talking. That was Marcus. Avocado oil. Fucking steaks. He only eats fish out of a bay. Oh, no. Yeah. No. If it doesn't come in a can
[03:02:21] allen marcus:
and say pickled herring, Marcus doesn't care. In a jar. I prefer pickled herring from a glass jar. Okay. Well, that's fair, but you're a stock. Sometimes it comes in a party bucket. It's the red bucket. I like the square size because it fits in the refrigerator tray just so if it's a circle, it takes up less spice. So it's more efficient to be a square bucket to put the herring in in the party bucket, pickled herring. I saw on the shelf Pickled party bucket? Eggnog. Are you guys ready for eggnog season?
[03:02:52] Unknown:
Actually, the the Strauss,
[03:02:54] Unknown:
dairy company up here, which is just a small local dairy.
[03:02:58] Unknown:
It is. I you keep the is awesome. They do fantastic. Yeah.
[03:03:04] Unknown:
Yeah. Freaking, the Strauss is just this and their their products are just amazing, and they put out an eggnog that is really fucking good. Dude, their their heavy whipping cream, the Strauss farm for your coffee.
[03:03:18] Unknown:
Oh, dude. Fuck it. Forget about it. Oh, it's it's phenomenal.
[03:03:23] Unknown:
Yeah. Dude, like, Strauss, if you leave it out and and you forget about it for a few days, it turns into cheese. It doesn't turn into rot. Yeah. You're like
[03:03:34] allen marcus:
I I left my thin mint, my thin mint whip it out of the refrigerator. I hope it doesn't turn into chocolate cheese mush.
[03:03:43] Unknown:
Dude, and Strauss ice cream? Holy fuck. We take we take Strauss. I I like to get Strauss chocolate milk and fucking pour it over Strauss ice cream and make a little milkshake with it, like some cookies and cream, Strauss ice cream. Holy fuck. That is so good. So, so good.
[03:04:02] allen marcus:
Cookies and cream is a non racist way to describe an Oreo, by the way. It's the same flavor.
[03:04:07] Unknown:
Yeah. I didn't like egg eggnog either until I tried Strauss's eggnog, and they're again, this dairy company is hands down better than any other dairy company I've ever fucking dealt with.
[03:04:25] allen marcus:
What we're talking about tonight is the original version of the thing tastes so much better than the lowest price. What's the word? It it it it not intimidates, it imitates the imitation product. The imitation product that is labeled as egg nog is an eggnog like product, but it might not contain egg or nog, but together it resembles that. I was trying to pull out an example from the other day where I purchased something. Oh, poutine. I went to a restaurant. I saw poutine on the menu, and against my better judgment, I just said I will take the poutine. When I received the poutine, it had the ingredients, some ingredients of poutine, which is sliced potato, cheese curd, and a gravy.
It contained all three ingredients, but they were frozen and breaded cheese curds, overcooked, French fries from the Sysco truck from a bag, and then gravy from a can poured over it. So it resembled poutine with the ingredients. It was an imitation of poutine, but it was not the poutine experience, certainly. But it was poutine on the menu, and I ordered poutine. I got poutine. It wasn't the poutine I imagined.
[03:06:09] Unknown:
But it was the poutine you got. The poutine I got. Yeah. And that's a life lesson, kids. Sometimes most of the time, it's not the poutine you imagine. It's the poutine you get. It's the poutine you get. So you might as well put it in your mouth.
[03:06:25] allen marcus:
Put it in my mouth. It's going daddy. Where are you? You weren't chatted earlier.
[03:06:32] Unknown:
Well, it's been three hours, gents. I don't know about you, but, I have I have.
[03:06:40] allen marcus:
I've I've been properly debriefed. So we we discussed, two debates that happened on a Sunday night and a Monday night. We called out some other people tonight to maybe debate another Tuesday night. Madonna, Kabbalah, Tron movie, whatever topic. Well, pick a topic. Just show up, and let's talk about it on a Tuesday night. The return to the more deliberation format, perhaps less of the actual debate as,
[03:07:09] Unknown:
people seem to be frightened of you two gentlemen, not wanting to engage. Say, I don't imagine that we're going to be getting many invites from that. Right. However, I do think we're we're both going to be welcomed back on the Sarah Tomato program. Yes. For sure. We we were we were gentlemen, and we were scholars, and we brought the funny. And we didn't make the whole thing devolve into a pitchier and pitchier screening match where nobody actually got a word in.
[03:07:45] allen marcus:
Rob started out as, like, what maybe a a treble voice and ended up as a what's higher than soprano? Mezzo. Mezzo soprano? I see. One. I can't remember. There were some choir comments in chat. I appreciated those who showed up and supported our dogs in chat. That was wonderful. I I I don't see that. Well, okay. We could probably review Rob's channel. May you know, you could go over to Rob's channel, his stream of the debate from from Monday night. Probably don't wanna argue with whatever people support him. There's no change in their minds. But certainly go to the Ragin' Tomato and bomb that comment section with love and affection for the dogs.
[03:08:30] Unknown:
Right? If you love your dogs, if you're down for your dogs, if you're here for your dogs Yeah. Go bark for your dogs.
[03:08:39] Unknown:
Let them know. We're gonna try and get more, debates set up. Some of these side debates, depending on what they are, we're gonna put in the members only, and it's gonna be, for, folks like,
[03:08:58] allen marcus:
Linds? Did Linds subscribe tonight?
[03:09:01] Unknown:
Yep. Linds showed up tonight, and Stella moved. It wasn't while I was we were on air, but, like, Linds and Stella and James Maiden.
[03:09:10] allen marcus:
Yeah.
[03:09:11] Unknown:
And Tony Coriolis. Tony Coriolis. Alright. So we're gonna put some of those on there because we're gonna start that's one of the big things and part of why Steve and I took that debate was just to start getting our name in the hat. That's that's the first big fight. Honestly and and and the and we needed more low level debates because no matter how good a speaker Steve and I were, prior to this, speaking is entirely different than debating. Yeah. It's got a different tempo. It's got a different way you present things. When you guys watch the debate, we had four minute openers. There's four speakers plus the moderator's gonna speak some, and there's gonna be some transfer time. So four times four is sixteen, you've already lost twenty five minutes effectively out of a two hour debate just by just by that.
And if you do a second round, you're already most of the debate is gone. So you've got four minutes to try and do what Steve and I normally would have did in a one to three hour show and had the time to really, get out the nuance on your points. Where here, you've gotta truncate it down. You've gotta like, look at how brilliant fucking Steve's opener was. Like, this is that's that's taking your points and and shredding them down to the very bare minimum and finding the things that really hit. Is it a nuanced way to do it in a in a complete picture of things? No. No. But it can't be. It can't be in that duration that you have to do it. So it's a different way than Steve and I and Marcus are used to speaking. So we need some lower level debates out the gate just because we might even be. I can feel all day, especially when you get to these better debaters like Andrew Wilson. Mhmm. Absolutely. I feel like I can defeat him in a debate. I I and that's fine, and I'm sure most people do.
We all we all feel like we'd be good at whatever sport we're watching on TV also. If you don't go try it out a couple times, you know, you could think jujitsu is easy until somebody has you tied in a pretzel and crying. Like, so
[03:11:32] allen marcus:
That sounds fun. Why do I sign up? A few times. Tie me up like a pretzel Bitcoin daddy.
[03:11:39] Unknown:
There's plenty of bars in New York. And
[03:11:42] allen marcus:
mustard.
[03:11:44] Unknown:
There are.
[03:11:45] Unknown:
So go back and watch, We have the debate aired on and Steve put it on his rumble, and it was on my u on my YouTube, the debate from last night. I think that, you know, there wasn't much pressure applied to us, so it wasn't a complete test. But, Steve and I, I think, did very well on the technical aspect of debating. The, and then Marcus is gonna get the debate from, from Vibe's channel if you haven't seen it over there. And if not, go check out Vibe. Vibe's been on the channel. He's a great guy. I should pull it on the link and find it for you guys. How many Bitcoins to tie you up to guarantee that, you know, you better go with three because I don't know if somebody else might come at the two. And now we're talking bidding war. You you better probably put in the three Bitcoins.
That's that's gonna be important. And then at that, then it's not our it's not our business anymore. Our only place, I know they'll be talking about it on on the after show.
[03:12:54] Unknown:
Real quick before we bounce, Sunday, while Ben was debating religion with, I don't know, some bitch named Beth, I I was on the Grand Theft World podcast. Richard Grove asked me a very specific question about, like, the the comedy on AM wake up. And, I I did say that my Wednesday cohost tomorrow morning, T Snyder, is is a much more serious and intellectual individual. And so the comedy that normally occurs Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday doesn't necessarily occur on Wednesday, but it is a a fascinating, enlightening, and invigorating conversation. T's, got yes, please. Do that. Yes, please.
T's got very, very talked about this. Sent me a text message all in real time saying, I demand that, you make the thumbnail before Wednesday's show say only comedy allowed. So apparently, Tisa is going to attempt to bring the funny tomorrow. I don't know. We'll we'll see. We'll see. But I did create a thumbnail today that I hope reflects this.
[03:14:32] allen marcus:
Oh, wow. Yeah. I see.
[03:14:35] Unknown:
Yeah. In in that, it is There will be fans. More or less direct rip off of the OnlyFans logo font
[03:14:44] Unknown:
except for I inverted the wall. Have known that. I actually did not get the joke until again, like that joke, you know, that you explained, like, oh. That's an emoji. There's a face on that lock.
[03:14:56] Unknown:
Well, if you if you Google the, you know, if you Google the, the image for the OnlyFans logo, it is a a lock. I inverted it. I turned it into a smiley face. The background for it hang on. Not done. Background for it is from an advertisement for the Riyadh Comedy Festival where all of the Saudi Arabian head shoppers paid a bunch of freaking millionaire hacks to go do stand up in in front of them, and they're, you know, waving scimitars or whatever you do when you go to Saudi Arabia. Crossover on that and comedians and how close comedians are to UFC fighters, and UFC fighters also regularly going over to entertain
[03:15:47] Unknown:
same set people.
[03:15:49] Unknown:
So I sent it to, and he was like, no. I hate it. Do better. I'm like, no, dude.
[03:15:55] allen marcus:
If you laugh, you lose on Wednesday morning.
[03:16:00] Unknown:
Hey. I'm I'm sorry, dude. It's done. And if you want me to do better, you we're gonna have to find somebody to pay me. I'm doing this on my own time.
[03:16:11] Unknown:
That's any wonderful solution. Logo because I'm scared to because there's been times that Marcus said something and I looked it up and now and then I have porn on my phone for a new Just don't look up lemon party, and you'll be fine. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. And then once you do make that mistake, it's not like the mistake is Well, you have to be keywords. Oh my god. When I looked it up, I typed in OnlyFans
[03:16:33] Unknown:
logo and then hit the the image search, and it gave me search on. Yeah. All all of that. Because it's a pay to play for, I don't know, random whores thing. They don't actually put the random whores into the Google's when you look it up. They only give you the logo, which I felt was incredibly safe and did not feel like I would be violating any of the covenants of my own relationship or my own morality. Yeah.
[03:17:09] allen marcus:
What's that cut of meat? Picanha?
[03:17:11] Unknown:
Pichana, p I c h a n a. Picanha.
[03:17:15] Unknown:
Yeah. I think Christy got this one that was, like, twenty days aged and then also full blood. Yeah. And she said that it was the best piece of meat she's ever had. So good.
[03:17:27] Unknown:
So good.
[03:17:28] Unknown:
Yeah. That aging makes it much softer, and she got she don't die. Her teeth are bad, so that that that's a important factor for her. There's a a spot in San Francisco called the house of prime rib,
[03:17:42] Unknown:
and that's basically all they do. Just dusting what's there. Everything they're putting on your table, at least thirty days to thirty to thirty five days aged. Wow. Full blood. Absolutely. I mean, dude, it you put it on your tongue, and it dissolves like it's a fucking hit of acid. It is Yeah. I don't know about you. Beautiful. Ugh. Butter.
[03:18:08] Unknown:
She she said like butter, she doesn't know about the acid part. Oh, dude. House prime rib is bullshit.
[03:18:15] Unknown:
I used to work with a guy who, before he moved down to the Santa Cruz Mountains, had managed there and left on very good terms with the owner and all that kind of shit. The owner used to call him every year during fleet week. Hey, Dylan. Come up and hang out in my fucking apartment. We can watch a blue angels fly by and all that kind of shit. You know? Like, very nice fella. And so a a couple of times a year while I was working with him, we would go up there and just, you know, grab dinner, shit, fucking hang out. David Byrne from the Talking Heads,
[03:18:55] allen marcus:
That's his favorite restaurant. Burn it down that road.
[03:18:59] Unknown:
Sitting at the bar, we shared a meal on a couple of different occasions, shared a meal, sat like a seat away from David Byrne. It just did. I had a general casual conversation with this totally weird, enigmatic, fucking super genius musician. And nobody really was like, oh my god. You're David Byrne. You know? Because what's he gonna be like, oh my god. You guys are a bunch of fucking derelict carpenters. You know? Why are you here? Yeah. No. We're just, you know, hanging out and sharing a meal together. Really cool. Really cool.
[03:19:36] Unknown:
Kurt, we just used to gamble at Mystic Lake Casino. And when I was young, he he he liked playing blackjack there. And as long as you didn't act like an asshole, he was cool with hanging out with you.
[03:19:48] Unknown:
Yeah.
[03:19:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Which is, you know, pretty par for the course for most people. You don't act like an asshole. Most people are okay with hanging out with you. Yeah.
[03:20:00] Unknown:
Yeah. I've had numerous, more famous friends and it's same thing because I don't get all worked up because they're famous. Like Yeah. You're good at your job. So is Bob over there.
[03:20:14] allen marcus:
Oh my god. Yeah. Builder? The the the guy from Nickelodeon? Does Atlanta mean to you? Bob do you know Bob the builder? We can build it. Yes. We can. Do you know do you know Dora the Explorer too?
[03:20:23] Unknown:
Alright. My daughter, my youngest daughter was very much into Dora the Explorer, and then
[03:20:30] allen marcus:
her brother Ben was like, we're not having any illegals in my house. Get this shit off my TV. It's it's amazing it's amazing the cultural references. I said you need to explore your own country, you little bitch. What? Dude, I think Ben knows more Yu Gi Oh cards than I do, so he's got that on me. I definitely I some guy on that panel that the other night was like,
[03:20:51] Unknown:
was like, what? Because I call it because I called it out. I seen his his little icon was a picture of the inside of a Yu Gi Oh card. Yeah. I've got I played Yu Gi Oh with my son for, for a number of years. And just like when he just like we I never played the Pokemon one, but I I seen it, and I watched his cartoons with him and shit. And so, yeah, I know, like, most of the Pokemon. Yeah. It's just I got a good memory. It was just the the unpredictability
[03:21:20] allen marcus:
of the topics that you're able to discuss is so overwhelming to some people. Those people that tend to stick to their scripts, and they and they they can't veer out of the lanes and go off road and explore the territory. The the point of the deliberations and the debates has been to get into exploratory mode and get out of the
[03:21:42] Unknown:
Well, like Steve said, that was Steve's point, though, that these fuckers are just chronically online. And the online world and online drama is what they've made into their world when all reality, if I walk downtown Garberville, 99 out of a 100 people would have no idea who Destiny was. And that one person would think that it was a stripper that it stopped down at the local strip club, you know, a couple months ago.
[03:22:10] Unknown:
Yeah. No. They're all just they're they're so locked into the unreal world they created that they can't leave it. But I I gotta drop out. You guys are more than welcome to go on as long as you want to. We're good. We're gonna we're gonna close it to This is our third day of content in a row. It's a lot of content. Gotta get the first day out, but he'll get it out, guys.
[03:22:34] allen marcus:
Someone's asking for the the link.
[03:22:36] Unknown:
For the members, it will be out first. When he puts it out, we'll make it members only first. And, Yeah. We should be able to do that. Do that for the members, I think. Probably make it for members only for a week. And then
[03:22:51] allen marcus:
Yeah. We, we are we we could plan to do that on a Tuesday night where we open the panel up to anyone who wants to join our StreamYard. That would be alright. You wanna do that, like, maybe once every month or six weeks or something? Sure. I think, so long as we're able to announce it ahead of time so people are able to shower, floss, brush their teeth, swallow all the food in their cheeks, Rob Knorr, and Marte can make sure that he's not storing it up for the minute.
[03:23:22] Unknown:
You know, I understand for him. It's his I understand.
[03:23:26] allen marcus:
I I understand. You know, as far as how handicap accessible will make the the chat, I don't I don't know how we'll have to tailor that to everyone's special needs according to their purpose, but we will let you know when the the room is open. I don't think next week, but, maybe a Halloween party, you guys wanna have a costume contest so everyone can dress up and have crazy costumes on camera?
[03:23:51] Unknown:
Maybe that'll be a good time. Whoever whoever comes in as, Laura Loomer as Jigsaw gets a free AM wake up T shirt. Okay. There's a challenge.
[03:24:04] allen marcus:
There it is. We'll check the calendar to see. No. You're alright. Halloween's on a Friday. Let's say, Tuesday, the twenty eighth before Halloween. Okay. Because the one after that is election day, and that'll be a different Tuesday topic. So caution contest, open panel, twenty eighth. That'll be our Tuesday event. There you go.
[03:24:25] Unknown:
There you go. So, Grady, it sounds like we're already giving you enough. You need to start throwing some Bitcoins anyways.
[03:24:31] Unknown:
It's true. It's true. If you are the crypto daddy, cough up in Bitcoins. At 2AM, I have certain expectations for Or at bunch of the independent media token because that helps everybody.
[03:24:46] allen marcus:
Thank you, great white pope. Thank you, Ryan Bradley. Thank you, Ryan, Stella Moon. We is out. 20 Corielis.
[03:24:56] Unknown:
Yep. Take care, folks. Thanks for hanging out. We'll see you next week.
Cold open chaos: "Who are you guys?" and soundcheck bits
Sponsor banter and Viking Thor gag (ads ignored)
Setting the stage: marathon of debates and fatigue
Debate grind: taking lumps, practice, and preparation
Benadryl jokes, speed-talking styles, and debate cadence
Destiny vs. George Floyd: unveiling the goofy prompt
Strategy talk: framing, disingenuous premises, and audience targeting
Does Rob believe it? On-air persona vs. sincerity
Breath control, choir technique, and the art of filibuster
Community check-in: James, veggies, and panel etiquette
Why Ben Carson entered the argument
Ben Carson recap: surgeon, film portrayal, and contrast to Floyd
How the debate prompt actually emerged on X
Passion vs. provocation: who really cared about the prompt?
Roasting etiquette: humor, humanity, and impressions
Who is Destiny? Terminally online vs. real-world impact
Attempted links to real violence and why they failed
"It all happens for a reason": policy fallout and riots
Best zingers: tongue speed jokes and debate levity
Votes, correlation claims, and election context avoided
Panel dynamics: likability, kittens, and fatigue
Why the prompt was a loser: comparative societal effects
Sunday’s prior debate: health origins and turning up the spice
Bible study recap: hell, Old vs. New Testament references
Dante, Milton, and layered hells vs. modern sermons
Heaven tropes, androgynous angels, and pop-culture references
Youth group confessions and culture-war humor
Platform limits: what could not be shown on YouTube
Five hours of Rob: voice, pace, and patience thresholds
Hockey-fight metaphors and debate aggression control
Opening statements mattered; the middle did not
Counterfactuals mocked: "If my aunt had nuts…"
Schoolyard snow stories and Minnesota memories
Terminally online culture: who actually knows Destiny?
Danger hair discourse, subcultures, and pop icons
Taylor Swift, reviews, and pop-compare comedy
Orthodox sphere callouts: debates that never happen
Credit the source: Jay Dyer vs. Ian Davis infographic spat
Audience shout-outs and community emoji talk
Open panels: cameras off, voices on, and after-show dynamics
Reddit as "front page": search, indexing, and drama
Band names and bits: Earth, Wind, and Friar
Renaissance Festival mode: victory silliness
Vikings, TV trends, and historical corrections
Braveheart myths, Robert the Bruce, and Scottish defiance
Have you been to hell? Norse Hel and cycles of life
AI lookups, history context, and heathen vs. Christian phases
Underworld terms: Tartarus, Sheol, Gehenna, and rhetoric
Stochastic terrorism: definition, usage, and misfires
Emoji euphemisms, censorship, and code-breaking AI
Micro Machines reference: fast talkers and empty flights
Speculating stimulants: tics, twitches, and staying awake
Beth’s Bible deep dive and promised reposts
Spicy sauces aside; back to tone-policing Christians
Boys and their toys: nostalgia, panels, and easy wins
Ortho bros vs. real-world obscurity: who amplifies whom?
Trucks, sticks, and mountain living logistics
Off-grid realities: water, power, and maintenance
Road woes, delivery limits, and deep Humboldt living
Murder Mountain lore: cannabis prices then and now
Rescheduling talk: schedule III implications
Painkillers, OxyContin, and pain vs. dependence
Hospital meds, fear of withdrawal, and home distilling tale
Poppy tincture night: no pain, warm glow reflections
Euphoria show aside and media awareness
Streaming catalogs: Bond without guns, edits, and add-ons
Celebrity brushes: Claire Danes, Homeland, and TV eras
Claire’s store closure parody note and mall culture
Mall debate prompt: Claire’s, Hot Topic, or Spencer’s?
Party stories and glow sticks: cautionary tales
Body mods, LEDs, and novelty devices in the wild
Underwear taxonomy: thongs, cheekies, and VPL lore
Edge humor, memes, and media snuff accusations
Gadgets, plugs, and social reel curiosities
Degeneracy disclaimers, mushrooms, and memory wipes
Bears, coops, and Bubba: farm interruptions live
Holy water jokes, relics, and lineage of oil bits
Bitcoin daddy, spaceballs rumors, and pop returns
More Thrones, less Bond guns: media trend tracker
Building a duck pond: backhoe, trees, and fertilizer loops
Worm farms, compost towers, and soil amendments
Too wet this season: cal-mag fixes and garden notes
Pop detours: Swift, lyrics, memes, and quarterbacks
Turkey calls, wild flocks, and guard turkeys
Powdered Dusty and symmetric rhetoric: "this is war" talk
Overton window swing-back and riot demographics
Where did steakhouses go? Beef supply squeeze
Hay prices, feed math, and feasibility of mini cows
Auctions, processors, and consolidation pains
Mobile processing units and practical butchery
Deer, trucks, and rural collisions
How we got here: local plants to mega processors
The true costs: fuel, lodging, freezer trucks
Communal feasts vs. kosher limits; meat raffles culture
Beefmaps and Slim’s Cuts: handshake food sourcing
Regulatory capture: who can afford to comply?
Cannabis parallels: licensure pushing out mom-and-pop
Convenience vs. quality: supermarkets, Walmarts, and aisles
Perimeter shopping and shrinking produce sections
Local markets done right: provenance and quality control
Straus dairy praise: cream, eggnog, and real ingredients
Imitation vs. authentic: the poutine parable
Debate craft: openings, truncation, and tempo
Publishing plan: members-only windows and replays
Wednesday’s "Only comedy allowed": show promo
Designing the thumbnail: safe searches and logos
Best cuts of beef: picanha vs. ribeye and cooking tips
House of Prime Rib stories and famous patrons
Fame, normalcy, and not acting like an asshole
Kids’ cards and cartoons: Yu Gi Oh and Pokémon detour
Terminally online vs. town reality: final word
Wrap-up: schedule, open panels, and costume challenge
