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D3 Debates #17 Accuse & Profit | Debate Bro Cowardice?

The Boondocks, Stripper Names, and Zestiny
Cristal Magnum, KMFDM, and the Art of Picking Fights
Navigating Modern Discourse and Debate Refusal
Who Debates the Debate Culture?
Intellectual Honesty and Humor Key to Winning the Audience Heart


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Duke lacrosse accuser writes memoir

"The Last Dance for Grace: The Crystal Mangum Story 2008

Former stripper, convicted killer Crystal Mangum finally confesses to lying about being raped by Duke lacrosse players in 2006
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Madison Wisconsin shooting: Was 'copycat' paying tribute to Columbine shooter with KMFDM t-shirt?

Rupnow, who killed a teacher and a student before taking her own life, wore a black shirt featuring the distinctive "tumbling logo" design from German industrial band KMFDM's 1997 Symbols tour. The same band and design are historically tied to the Columbine tragedy, where Harris and co-perpetrator Dylan Klebold also sported KMFDM attire in public photos.

Please Welcome streamer and political commentator Steven Kenneth Bonnell II aka Destiny to The Adam Friedland Show.


Video of Team Humanity serves papers to
The Biden-Harris administration
Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson
The CDC, NIH, FDA, EPA, NIAID
The World Health Organization
FEMA
DOD, DOJ, FBI, Homeland Security, US Air Force,
Space Force, FAA
All Commercial Airlines
US Senate & House of Representatives
State of Hawaii

"Justice is truth in action"
You've been served for crimes against humanity ⚖️

Thank you Scott 
@Rebunkednews
  for being Brave and serving the bad guys 🐺👊🏼🪽💯 Thanks Zach
@UnfitStatesman
 for the camera work.
http://humanitysuit.com 

(00:01:18) Boondocks Clip

(00:06:03) Bad Names on Birth Certificates Debate

(00:13:11) Debate Challenges and Avoidance

(00:20:21) Flat Earth and Conspiracy Theories

(00:28:01) Video Games and Influence on Behavior

(00:36:06) Social Media and Identity Verification

(00:44:00) Political Debates and Bipartisanship

(00:52:01) Cultural Criticism and Influencers

(01:00:00) Music and Cultural Influence

(01:10:01) Red Pill Community and Gender Debates

(01:20:00) Influencers and Social Media Impact

(01:30:00) Destiny and Debate Culture

(01:40:00) Pets and Personal Stories

(01:50:00) Political Predictions and Social Changes

(02:00:00) Future Plans and Show Changes

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Our untrained AI says this about the episode:

In this episode, we dive into a wide-ranging discussion that touches on pop culture, debates, and societal observations. We start with a humorous reference to "The Boondocks" and a character named Cristal, leading to a light-hearted debate about names and their societal implications. The conversation then shifts to the world of podcasts and debates, highlighting the challenges of engaging with intellectually dishonest arguments and the rise of influencer culture among young men. We explore the impact of social media on public discourse and the phenomenon of people gaining fame through controversial opinions. The hosts discuss the dynamics of the red pill movement, the complexities of relationships, and societal expectations around gender roles. We also touch on the influence of music and media on behavior, referencing the band KMFDM and its unexpected connection to historical events. The episode takes a humorous turn with anecdotes about pets, particularly pit bulls and their quirky behaviors. We wrap up with reflections on the challenges of finding meaningful debates in today's polarized environment and the importance of intellectual honesty in discussions. The episode is a blend of humor, cultural critique, and personal anecdotes, offering listeners a thought-provoking yet entertaining experience.



The text discusses various topics related to relationships, society, and personal views. The speaker argues that not everyone will have the same number of sexual partners and that it's not fair to judge people based on their "body count." They also mention a podcast with a black man using the metaphor of sharing a cup of water to explain why high body counts matter. The speaker then delves into the concept of horizontal DNA transfer, stating that sexual partners can alter each other's DNA.

The conversation shifts to the Red Pill community, a group with controversial views on gender dynamics. The speaker criticizes the immaturity of people who compete for superficial things, like casual sex, and emphasizes the importance of finding mature partners.

Later, the speaker brings up Joshua Harris, an author who wrote a book promoting purity and celibacy before marriage. After receiving feedback, Harris revised his views and apologized to those who were negatively affected by his earlier stance.

Lastly, the text touches on the topic of influencers, particularly those from the gaming world. The speaker criticizes the lack of real-life experience and productivity of some influencers, using Destiny as an example. The speaker believes that influencers should have a solid foundation in reality before sharing their opinions.


They briefly discuss the topic of the Onion buying a certain Twitter account and the rumor about Elon Musk buying MSNBC and Infowars.

The speaker discusses a clip from Destiny's interview with Adam Friedland, where Destiny struggles to name a book he has read. The conversation touches on Destiny's recent diagnosis of ADHD and starting medication. They also mention the "prison to podcast" movement, comparing it to Destiny's situation. The speaker then shares their thoughts on how people on the internet, including Destiny, often lack marketable life skills.

Destiny's character and recent controversies are discussed, including alleged blackmailing and an affair with a married woman. The speaker also brings up Destiny's reaction to the assassination attempt on Trump and his views on the Black Lives Matter (BLM) movement.

The speaker then compares the blurred lines between parody and reality in shows like the one Destiny appeared on, and how people can struggle to differentiate between the two. They also mention the BLM protest involving Daniel Penny, who restrained a man threatening women and children on a subway.

Towards the end, the conversation shifts to the speaker's personal life, including their pets and experiences. They briefly discuss the topic of the Onion buying a certain Twitter account and the rumor about Elon Musk buying MSNBC and Infowars.

The speaker discusses potential debate topics, including the Detroit Locker vs. sensor-based differentials and the smell of differential fluid. They also mention a vision for a Labowski promo and a desired sweater. The group talks about finding people to debate, specifically looking for liberals, but mentioning the difficulty due to intellectual dishonesty. They mention debating Destiny and his willingness to lie.

The conversation shifts to video games, with the speaker expressing their opinion that modern games are not real games. They also mention BMW's subscription services and the idea of leasing organs from the movie "Repo! The Genetic Opera."

The group talks about their presence in the Telegram chat and the inclusion of cat-related content. They assure guests that their words will not be edited to misrepresent them. The speaker shares their experience growing up on a farm and the occasional need to yell at animals. They also mention the possibility of a Tourette remix becoming popular on TikTok.

Towards the end, the speaker briefly discusses blaming things on Marilyn Manson and invites someone to come on the show for a discussion.

[00:00:00] Unknown:

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[00:00:46] Unknown:

321,   fight.  

[00:00:58] allen marcus:

We need a longer intro.  

[00:01:00] Unknown:

No.   It looks beautiful.  

[00:01:04] allen marcus:

It's so beautiful.  

[00:01:06] Unknown:

It's a little  

[00:01:09] Unknown:

I'm not harsh.  

[00:01:10] Unknown:

It's a little boondocks  

[00:01:12] allen marcus:

esque flute right at the end. It's funny that you mentioned Boondocks.   That's kind of in my notes.   There's a woman who's in the news who's been in the news for many, many years.   I think she's named after,   Champagne.   Mhmm. So I wanted to maybe start the debate.  

[00:01:31] Unknown:

Yeah. I'd like to show you. Call her we're gonna call her Cristal.  

[00:01:34] allen marcus:

Cristal.   Is it   Manon? Is it Manon?  

[00:01:40] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:01:42] Unknown:

Is it Manon? Is it Manon? Do I have to pull some yeah. Nice zone. Manon. Yeah. Crystal. I mean, you do gotta get her to cut her some slack when you're named after a after a   alcohol.   You weren't a racist or   you were not racist.  

[00:01:55] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. We don't know. It could be it could be the   the substance.  

[00:02:00] allen marcus:

Yeah. I didn't read her   memoir.  

[00:02:05] Unknown:

Not quite ghost written if it's God damn it.  

[00:02:12] allen marcus:

So the boondocks,   quote, Crystal says the name's Crystal, you know, like the champagna.   And Huey Freeman says, Crystal, that sounds like a stripper name. Might you be a stripper? Crystal, like the champagna.   Crystal. I   and what would you know about the super zillman? Not much, but I knew do know they're usually named after   liquor,   boondocks.   So that was before   the Duke lacrosse   party?  

[00:02:44] Unknown:

No. Or you let's say yes. Yes.  

[00:02:50] allen marcus:

Because the boondocks had 2 seasons. Around the same time. It's like season 2 episode 7 of the boondocks, which started in 2005. So I don't know what it what was first.  

[00:03:00] Unknown:

I think the Duke lacrosse thing was 2004,   was it?  

[00:03:04] allen marcus:

Sure. Sure. So then   Crystal's mother on the birth certificate did spell Crystal,   c r y,   and the champagna   is spelled c  

[00:03:15] Unknown:

r I s t a l.   Yeah.   Okay.  

[00:03:20] allen marcus:

Yeah. So we're good on that. And this is a high price   champagne.  

[00:03:26] Unknown:

So, Steve, I don't know if it was it was more of the substance.  

[00:03:31] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. I think, I think I I got the winner there. I do. Yeah.   Should   I have a little clip from that episode queued up if we wanted to Yeah. Let's let's look at that. Everybody loves boondocks.   I mean, look. If you don't, then you hate America. Oh, god, Christy.  

[00:03:52] Unknown:

She like, when we do our uncle Rocca's invitations, Christy gets so mad.  

[00:03:56] Unknown:

Aw. Don't do that, Christy.   It's no fun.  

[00:04:03] Unknown:

It's a nigga in a purple suit.  

[00:04:11] Unknown:

Who are you?  

[00:04:14] Unknown:

My name is a pimp named Slickback,   and I believe I may have misplaced some merchandise at this residence.   There she is.   Bitch, I hope you got the monies to cover this little vacation you've been taking.  

[00:04:28] Unknown:

Now hold up, Slickback.  

[00:04:30] Unknown:

No. That's a pimp named Slickback.  

[00:04:32] Unknown:

That's what I said. Slickback.  

[00:04:34] Unknown:

No. No. It's a pimp named Slickback. Like a tribe called Quest. You say the whole thing. A pimp named Slickback. Can we call you Slickback for short?   No, nigga. I'm a pimp named Slickback.   Crystal, who is this person?   Nigga, are you deaf? I'm a pimp named Slickback.   Say it with me now.   He's my pimp.  

[00:04:58] Unknown:

Your pimp?  

[00:04:59] Unknown:

So you really are a a Yes. She's I'm a hog. Come on, bitch. Now.   A pimp named Slit Bat. Could I please have a minute? A minute?   Let us spray the pimp's pram.   The pimp's prayer? Lord, please pray for the soul of this bitch   and guide my pimp hand and make it strong, Lord, so that she might learn   a whole splice.   Amen.   Amen. Yeah.  

[00:05:34] Unknown:

You ain't gonna hit no woman in my house.  

[00:05:37] Unknown:

What woman, sir?   This here is a hoe. Not in this house. She's not.  

[00:05:44] Unknown:

Why don't you just wait outside?  

[00:05:49] Unknown:

Damn. Indiana Jenkins. I didn't know we were still whooping niggas. Fine.   Bitch, you got 45 seconds and I'm leaving.   44.   43.  

[00:06:04] allen marcus:

Indiana. Oh,   so so then I still have more questions. I understand Cristal is like a champagne,   but then   Magnum, is that named after the condom or after, like, a gun?   Sure.  

[00:06:19] Unknown:

Dude, the first time Sure. First time first time Maybe a little column may. Little column may. Saw that show as as in the damn fish tank.   I thought everybody was in trouble. All of a sudden, I heard the shit of the salmon. The fuck?   What did you guys sneak on? What's a fish tank?   Hey. How's it going, California contrarian? At a glass house?  

[00:06:50] Unknown:

I guess, I guess Sam Hyde was on,   Legion of Skanks   this week.  

[00:06:56] allen marcus:

Oh.  

[00:06:58] Unknown:

I haven't watched that show   at a long ass time, but   might drop in on that. Sam Hyde's hilarious, dude. He really is.  

[00:07:13] allen marcus:

Humor is so important.  

[00:07:16] Unknown:

So we are not nearly as good at picking fights as one.   Yeah. Yeah. You gotta have a you gotta have a pit to be on the show. Martin Martin's cousin, but, you know, he's he's helped take care of mine. They have adopted him. I have I have petted I have petted a pit.  

[00:07:35] Unknown:

I petted 3 pits. Some of my best friends are pits. Okay?   Happen to be. They happen to be pits, some of them.  

[00:07:43] Unknown:

Now that one was Gomez's brother.   Mhmm. His name his name is McLickens.  

[00:07:49] Unknown:

Yep.   Yep. Mighty Moe.  

[00:07:55] allen marcus:

That's kind of the soft debate topic I wanted to start out with tonight   is,   naming and birth certificates.  

[00:08:02] Unknown:

Whether we suck   at picking fights?  

[00:08:05] allen marcus:

Well,   if  

[00:08:07] Unknown:

okay. So if Do we suck at picking fights, or are they little pussies?  

[00:08:12] allen marcus:

If you name   your daughter   a certain way, is she gonna just get in all the fights?  

[00:08:19] Unknown:

Right. I was   I was trying to reserve the shit talk,   but it it it's appearing that that is gonna almost be required because   I there's some ducking motherfuckers   going on. Dude,  

[00:08:39] allen marcus:

It's a question of honor at this point, I think.  

[00:08:43] Unknown:

It's wild, man. You you know, I   but most of these most of these dudes   spend an inordinate amount of time   talking about how,   the vast majority of the planet is intellectually   inferior,   couldn't hold a candle to them in an argument or a debate, couldn't even present   a coherent   argument for them to entertain,   let let alone engage with   and have an actual   contest,   a a a battle of wits and wills in a formal debate. Yet, when presented   with an opportunity and perhaps   perhaps we're being shamed for our appearances, gentlemen.   We could be.  

We could be.   But when presented the opportunity,   the most most of the people approached seem to have   found anyone else in the room to talk to   for any   excuse   under the sun rather than go, alright. Yeah. No. You're you're you're on.   Okay. Yes. I'd, I'd clearly   clearly been challenged. No.   Just   crickets.   Crickets.   Odd.  

[00:10:14] Unknown:

And I I do understand the look shaming thing, but I gotta assure everybody   that we actually are this good looking. This isn't like we don't have, like, makeup people. There isn't special lighting.   I don't have a nice camera or any type of filter. This is just just just it's just all it it just happens.  

[00:10:34] Unknown:

Right. And you've got you've got to live with that. You've got to live with that. And for people who claim to be in favor of natural beauty as opposed to being made up, you would think that these guys in particular would respect that. But, no, just out here hating hating. I don't hear   hating on them. It's sad  

[00:10:53] allen marcus:

to see. I had a dream about the content   of my character.  

[00:10:59] Unknown:

Yeah. And the company you keep?  

[00:11:03] allen marcus:

I think that's how that goes. Yeah. So the the pressure of being on a live stream in front of a studio audience   yeah. I get that. Okay. So maybe do we move to, like, a slower chest by mail sort of hear my move?   I send it.   Wait for your reply.   Give these people a little more time. Is that really what the concern is? Is needing   more time to think about what the response will be? Her  

[00:11:34] Unknown:

name is the only Pony Express.  

[00:11:41] Unknown:

I'm just gonna start, you know,   attaching fucking notes to Lola and slapping her on the ass.   She's the cow, not the wife. My wife's name's Christie. So Miss Fairweather,  

[00:11:53] Unknown:

dictate a letter.   To my opponent.  

[00:11:59] allen marcus:

So What's it? There's this guy who walked around with a stack of papers and then walked into some buildings and said, you've been served?   And he videotaped that. The reaction   that those,   doorman and bellhops and elevator escorts and front desk clerks, they just   they were,   afraid of what to do with pieces of paper. Are they properly trained   and how to receive mail? Are you talking about the humanity lawsuit thing? Yeah. What's going on with that?  

[00:12:35] Unknown:

Well, Scott just did the serving.   Mhmm. He he's not an actual part of the lawsuit, which is why he was legally allowed to   yeah. Well, according to him, their lawyer said,   as long as   you gave somebody at the desk an opportunity   to accept that by them not accepting it, it defaults   count it defaults as   the company   accepted it,   and they still get to go I don't know. I don't it's a little convoluted as far as that goes.   But the  

[00:13:14] allen marcus:

let's see. Well, there are rules to play by, and   playing by the rules is good sportsmanship.   There are certain players who are playing the game, but are not participating with   good sportsmanship.  

[00:13:29] Unknown:

Do you know what I mean?  

[00:13:30] Unknown:

They sued everybody.  

[00:13:33] Unknown:

They they sued absolutely. Would  

[00:13:35] Unknown:

be nice,   but it turns out that somebody has tarred and feathered him, and the feathers are definitely chicken feathers   from what I understand.   And it has been December for quite some time,   and he said December.   And he would be one of the people ducking and dodging despite having actually set up a debate.   A big old yellow streak right there down the center.  

[00:14:05] Unknown:

Oh, man. That was that was that was a month and a half ago.   It was originally   set that up.   And I can't   I haven't got anybody to nibble,   that's also a part of that that hot spot crew or the RBN crew   that he, he works with.   And I said this again, why I saw one of those dudes was like, all these people are afraid to debate me. And I was like,   we got a platform for you. Would you like to  

[00:14:44] allen marcus:

I mean, our our goal doesn't even seem to be to win debates. So what are you afraid of? I mean, we'll we'll get into the top volume anyway.  

[00:14:56] Unknown:

Like, we haven't been in enough debates to to   you know, and the official ones that we've had, the the most contentious one I feel like that we've had that I've had on the show has been against Will, who I'm friends with.   And I definitely feel like I won that. I feel like when   I made the point of everybody agreeing that the dead guy was dead, then that's obviously an objective truth.   Like,   so anything else is then   subjective because we don't all agree.   Mhmm. Like,  

[00:15:29] allen marcus:

it's like that guy sitting in the park with the little table set up and the sign, and people keep changing the text on the sign, but it's something, like, changed my mind. I don't know that we're trying to change anyone's minds except maybe   our own to to, like, better ourselves.   And it's like, guys,   we want to learn   what we're incorrect about. We wanna be   corrected and put in the right position to see the correct viewpoint from the proper vantage point,   and it's just crickets.  

[00:16:04] Unknown:

And I think someone wants to fight me as all the vehicles around here currently.  

[00:16:09] allen marcus:

Holy smoke. It's the conflict man versus nature.   Yeah. Survive.  

[00:16:20] Unknown:

Between Brian's vehicles and my vehicles, I'm a full time mechanic.  

[00:16:25] Unknown:

Right.   Yeah. You know, California,   contrarian, it's been   so It's been super rainy. Wet and  

[00:16:39] allen marcus:

autumn. Would we like to call on a guy who has a who has a whole legion of of folks financing his ability to drive around in a vehicle? Looks like he's got a pretty good truck and a pretty good streaming setup, but refuses to debate   another.  

[00:16:56] Unknown:

Who's that?  

[00:16:58] allen marcus:

Archay. Arch arch  

[00:17:00] Unknown:

Arch Arch   Arch Arch Artix? Archie Archie Archie Archie Archie Archie Archie Archie Archie Archie Archie Archie Archie Archie Archie Archie Archie Archie Archie Archie Archie Archie Archie Archie   Archie  

[00:17:10] allen marcus:

Don't know how to pronounce that. Or is it Argenine?   It's arc. I I Hey.  

[00:17:17] Unknown:

Hi. I think it's just,   piece of crap, Greipo, that should have been hung a long time ago. I don't know. That's what I would've went with.  

[00:17:31] Unknown:

Alright. Alright.  

[00:17:33] Unknown:

Oh, that was too on the nose. That's my bad. That's my bad. I'm like that.  

[00:17:41] allen marcus:

Well, it helps to spell out exactly   what's going on. To be very, very clear  

[00:17:47] Unknown:

Our chanting.  

[00:17:49] Unknown:

There you go.  

[00:17:50] Unknown:

Good one, Billy.   Let's see, wizard. Yeah. He is. He is scared of Marty. But you know what? When Marty makes a video that directly shows that everything he said is bullshit,   without even getting into the his past,   just says, hey, guys. Look.   Everything he says is bullshit.   He busts it all. Of course, he doesn't wanna debate him.   Of course, not.   I wouldn't   be reading on politics.  

[00:18:24] allen marcus:

Reading the full passage   specifically on the topic of what the zodiac.  

[00:18:30] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. He was trying to make the zodiac out to be something new.   Mhmm. No. I I definitely I I definitely would make the case that,   it wasn't always this the system that it is now.   But,   in but that all depends on the culture too. Like, it's a very weird thing with people that even even,   your scholars,   when they look at time periods, they don't   they'll take one culture and act like that's the whole world for that time period.   And it's absolutely not true.   Like, it's it's just a weird, weird deal.   And a lot of that was shifting and evolving inside of each of those cultures   during each of those time periods. And some of it, you know, due to the intermixing of each other, some of it just doing take changing of the times.  

So   in in my,   studies,   I found where, like, the heathen system, the the   the Germanic system   was an 8 piece system.   And,   where then you had at one point in time,   Rome had more of a 10   instead of a 12,   where they added in them at other 2 months,   which but then that doesn't necessarily mean that there wasn't a symbol form. It just means that those were the dark the dead months, so they didn't count them as months maybe.   Hard to say.   Lot of arguing over such things.   A   lot of stories.  

[00:20:17] allen marcus:

It's a fun discussion to be had. And   by saying these are the books I've read, what books have you read, we can discover more   sources   to read. And whether or not we wanna argue about the legitimacy of the Dead Sea Scrolls,   that's another topic.   Many topics to discuss.  

[00:20:37] Unknown:

So by not I'd like to I'd like to get Kip on, but   I don't know what I would debate him on. His expertise is the dead sea scrolls and   and ancient Hebrew and whatnot, and I'm certainly not gonna debate him on that.   Like, I don't know what's all about that.   Right.   Like, no. You're wrong. Why?   Because We're debating. Well, I I Right. You're wrong. I don't even know what the fuck you're talking about. Someone in your chat said you were a doo doo head, and that's why. Yeah.  

[00:21:13] allen marcus:

Is that a bird? Are you a bird head? What is what is it? Depends on what the definition of doo doo doo. Dodo head. It'll be a dodo head. It depends on what the correct pronunciation of the word is.  

[00:21:26] Unknown:

Right.   Speaking of which,   Hunter Muse is,   said she'll get,   lady Babylon   to come on. What would we wanna debate them on? Because then that guy. Now he gets a little wilder,   so he's a little easier to pick something on because he he   Mhmm. Puts out some pretty wild contentious   things as if that should be something that should happening today.   But we certainly can't debate him on his knowledge of ancient   Greek because that's Here's an idea.  

[00:22:03] allen marcus:

There's a proposal.   We all wear purple,   and then we wear guideline. No.  

[00:22:10] Unknown:

No. No. No. No. No. No. Hold on. Let me stop you right there.   Go ahead, Ben. We each come in as a different color   and, like, I'll be like, I'm blue. I'll be like, blue.   You  

[00:22:27] allen marcus:

know? Die. Die. Die. Got it. Okay.   So we will use our language and our neurolinguistic   programming   skills   to then win the debate by causing the person to have   can I say the word stroke on air?   Just stroke on air. I don't think so. I don't think so. So we'll win the debate by using our black magic abilities to cause the person to show up   and then just, you know she's a, like, she's a witch. You know? The witch.  

[00:22:58] Unknown:

K.   Is that You were not there, buddy. Lady babble or whatever?  

[00:23:03] allen marcus:

Lady who babbles on is a is a man. Well, he sounds absolutely  

[00:23:08] Unknown:

batshit crazy,   and he definitely comes off that way. The guys actually got legitimate credentials,   has legitimately   went and done the work. He was, you know, he's recognized as, like, even Kip Davis   who has, like, a Nobel Peace Prize for a fucking   ancient   Hebrew and all that,   didn't go, oh, this guy's just some crackpot. I mean, he he didn't bullshit around. He he argued some of the points the dude was making, but he didn't like blow blood, you know, would just brush him off by any means.   So the dude's got the absolute backing to to now that doesn't mean that everything he's saying is spot on   at at all, but   I certainly can't argue it. You know?  

I don't have any backing to do so.   But for him to make some claims that,   you know, where he thinks that this should be   applied to the world today.  

[00:24:08] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:24:09] Unknown:

Well, that's that's some things we could possibly argue.  

[00:24:13] allen marcus:

Mhmm.   The meaning. Like, what is the significance   of what you're saying? What does it mean? How does it play out? Are you advocating   for   everyone to change their worldview based off of this new evidence that's come to light?  

[00:24:29] Unknown:

I'm having to build up in small doses listening to him because he's got   such an off putting way of talking   that, I can only take it for a very short duration.  

[00:24:42] Unknown:

Not familiar with him at all.  

[00:24:44] allen marcus:

Theatrical.   He sounds like Iago from Aladdin,   that guy who was up all night with Rhonda Shear.  

[00:24:53] Unknown:

Yeah.   Did you just compare him to fucking,   oh god. What's   no. No. No. What's the number? Robert or yeah. Gilbert Godfrey. Yeah.   Yeah. The guy's got a very,   the part that's extra  

[00:25:09] Unknown:

hard What's his channel?   What's his channel? Lady babble  

[00:25:15] Unknown:

on YouTube.  

[00:25:18] allen marcus:

Yes. K.  

[00:25:21] Unknown:

And so he'll say something that's, like, extra outrageous,   and then he'll do this, like, maniacal giggle.   Like and it's   really hard   to deal with. And he's he's shaved his head and tattooed words all over the I see that. Yeah.   But if you look up if you look if you look him up   just like I'm the Googles or whatever, you can find pictures where he looked normal back when he was a college professor.   He was part he was in a Christian college,   and he went so like this. He went so off the deep end that they,   they I think they kicked him out or excommunicated   him or something or, you know, they had a trial for him being possessed and everything.  



[00:26:06] allen marcus:

Mhmm.   Right. So I don't know. Maybe we just debate him on what is a gothic band,   and then we take our position. Favorite Christian band? Well, no. Gothic   bands.   Oh. So, like, k m f d m. I think that's German.   Are you familiar with that band? Anybody like gothic bands?  

[00:26:30] Unknown:

Like, do gothic kids even like it, or is it just, like, they wanna be depressed and unhappy so they listen to shit music?   Thumbs up. I guess,   I I guess, you know, Bloody Kisses had a couple decent songs on   it. Okay. Back in the day, typo negative.  

[00:26:47] allen marcus:

Debate prompt. Does listening to   gothic music, maybe most specifically,   KMFDM   lead to someone,   firing weapons off in other people, you know, bullets going through other people's flesh?  

[00:27:03] Unknown:

You know, that's a debate to be had. It's an interesting one.   I don't know that there's any,   solid information out there to prove it. But there's just no doubt that   it's fucked up because, like, even I grew up in the era. My dad at one point in time took away my Metallica,   tape my Metallica tapes because my aunt told him that that was causing me to get misbehave.   You know? Not that I was just a fucking weird teenager that's misbehaving because I'm a weird teenager. That's what weird teenagers do, all of them.   Like, teenagers just do that shit.  

I fucking   but,   like, I don't know about from I it wasn't ever so noticeable for me. My kids weren't that into music,   but I live off grid. So my kids had very little,   in the way of entertainment.   Like like   computery or TV or anything like that. We didn't have we didn't have, signal for any type of TV stations.   Until Steve moved into my house, we didn't have, yeah, we didn't actually have Internet,   and that was only, like, 2 years ago,   maybe or 3 years ago or something. It wasn't that fucking long ago.   My kids were long gone.   I and Steve got the internets, and we just we've had it since.  

I   we don't   have that type of entertainment.   So   when I'd let my kids play video games,   it was extremely noticeable   how their behavior would change when they would play video games.   And I would take them away   and a lot of times for, like, a whole fucking month. And,   like, I give them back,   they would immediately within a day get it taken away again   every single time. And then it would take them a full week to start acting right again. Like and it was really wild.   And I know that there's the the problem is is for that study to be   really accurate is is you would have to take, like, some little fucking Amish ass kids and have them start playing video games   because these other kids have been so overly exposed already that   that extra exposure to try and prove what that's gonna do would be harsh.  

That'd be real hard.  

[00:29:29] allen marcus:

Right. So I specifically   asked that question about k m f d m  

[00:29:35] Unknown:

because of a new new story. That shit, and now I'm gonna make you explain it because you said it 3 fucking times like goddamn Beetlejuice, and I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.  

[00:29:47] Unknown:

I do.  

[00:29:49] allen marcus:

Steve knows and Balderson doesn't. Okay. So this morning,   there was a picture circulated of a young woman wearing a band t shirt   who notices and pattern recognition   experts on the Internet   had,   matched up the picture of a shirt with another shirt   from over 20 years ago now,   a similar situation and another school in Columbine.   So, a student at Columbine wore a shirt with the same logo from the band KMFDM.   And now there's a new picture posted on social media   where the two pictures are combined. This young woman, I think she's 15 years old, wearing the same shirt as another young man   who both took,   firearms   to   schools.  



[00:30:43] Unknown:

Okay.   You know what? I've stayed away from the truther type stuff,   entirely for a while. I just need it. I just need a damn break,   entirely. That whole community just went off the deep end with it.   And   freaking,  

[00:30:59] Unknown:

it's special. Trump's wrecked them.  

[00:31:01] Unknown:

Oh, gotcha. Like like, half of them are republicans and then, like, the the flat earth community is completely, you know, you know, completely going wild, obviously. Well, we'll get to that.   And freaking,   the the so many other people with so many other wild wild conspiracies, and I just can't it's just all too much for me. I'm   I'm not out there that, you know, like, with a bunch of that shit. You gotta make sense.   Like,   just because   just because they said one thing doesn't mean, like, some wild complete opposite thing is true.   It's too much. And then Bart Biden pardons 8,000   people   and the the the the the the   drones,   and then the lost new and then the lost   nuclear material.  

And, it's it's you know what? My truck my truck my rear end went out of my truck, and that's a real major   rebuild.   And   fuck all that nonsense. I I was rebuilding the rear end of my truck.  

[00:32:08] Unknown:

Yeah.   Yeah.  

[00:32:10] allen marcus:

As you should.  

[00:32:13] Unknown:

You kinda have to. Yeah. It's just too hard. You don't really get to put that off. To be road legal. Yeah.  

[00:32:19] Unknown:

No. The 2 2 or 3 of the bolts sheared on the carrier and were rolling around in there inside the gears.   And I it was and then it ripped a hole in the,   I think what really took it out, to be honest, because it seemed to still be working with even with that going on, it just may it just squished them bolts into the gears and made them part of it.   But,   it ripped the yeah. To it, that thing is, like, that thing is, like, bulletproof.   I mean, I couldn't believe it, bro.   Like,   we drove around for 2 weeks after Brian heard that noise. 2 weeks. Wow. But it it one of them bolts ripped a hole through maybe that's where that bolt disappeared too. It ripped a hole through the   cover on the back, and so it was spitting out all of the all the diff fluid and eventually ran out of diff fluid. And that's what it got too loud. It was like something wrong.  



[00:33:15] allen marcus:

Is this a veiled metaphor analogy   for the truther community needing to test out their   arguments   as far as their favorite conspiracy theory ideas and then putting them on the road and driving and seeing how far they can go with it.   Because if it's not road tested  

[00:33:35] Unknown:

Exactly.  

[00:33:36] allen marcus:

They they   again,   to to paint a broad stroke brush mark of, you know, capital t truth, r u t h truth,   Ruth's truth,   baby Ruth,  

[00:33:51] Unknown:

swing bad about a swing bad about a swing bad about a is is this is no different than any company.   R and d   takes the most time and the most money. Yeah. That's what that's what happens.   And so   if you're gonna be real about something, that means you gotta do research   and development.   That means you've got to experiment. You've gotta to do that. Like, I've got my whole   the the   planets are a battery system   going on. I've gotta build this whole battery and make this whole thing work to fucking   do that. So that takes years of work   and more research. And and when you're doing it, you're gonna find out that some of the things you're thinking are wrong, but you tweak it and you go and change it and blah blah blah.  

These people don't wanna do that. They wanna become famous in 5 minutes for saying some shit,   and then move on to the next thing if it doesn't work. Nobody wants to take the time to do the   research and development of the ideas   that they're having. And so they so the wilders the shit that they'd spit out can be,   the better because that gets more attention.  

[00:35:02] allen marcus:

On TikTok or other places,   having the   SEO, the search engine optimization using the keywords,   we could get into the whole   discussion of threads   from Meta. You know, Facebook is under Meta. Meta, the umbrella for Instagram   threads, their ex Twitter clone.   And now this idea   of   paying   or   verifying,   and a side note to that, a lot of people have been announcing on threads   that YouTube   has finally just awarded Christmas presents for   a lot of, people who wanted to be verified. So now there's a lot of accounts   that are being   verified by YouTube to say that they are the official person and that they are the person they say they are in the video, I guess. Is it, like, ID verification?  

Threads, though, again,   like,   capital t truth movement awareness here.  

[00:36:06] Unknown:

If you're not willing to verify your identity panel of 3 people. Marcus knows what all the fucking   weird shit like that, and Steve knows all the political shit and whatnot.   And I'm a, like, mechanic and electrician and off gridder and   occultist and all that freaking,   everybody's got their their area of expertise.   So sometimes when Marcus starts babbling like this and I get this glazed overlook, I mean, I just don't know what the fuck he's talking about.   And I can't even hold the concentration long enough to fucking make it, like, put the pieces together. Like, you're I don't see any sense in skipping through a field of flowers.  

[00:36:46] allen marcus:

Okay. You know, when you go to the liquor store and they ask to see your ID and you're like, well, look at me. I have a beard. You don't need to see my ID. They're like, well, we need to know what your name is. We need Yeah. Nobody asked me. Right? Application. Well, this is what threads is doing. Threads is saying,   hey. We like what you're saying. This is good stuff. We want you to continue to posting on threads, and we want to   Is it like a rude check mark? Well, they want to pay people to post a threat, so they wanna give them a check. But in order to receive money,   you have to have a valid identification,   like a tax PIN number,   social security. The more you can give   to a corporation   to verify your identity,   then you're allowed to post and you're approved for posting.  

So by moving towards this authentication   service of Real ID and my name is   the same on my ID that it is on my   platform, the same thing.   Now this makes it even more difficult to debate if you want to   remain   anonymous   or   this type of thing.   So now there's a very brave man moving to another story. I need to use transitional words. Okay. So Grammarly is gonna help me AI is gonna help me use transition words in my debate to say, moving on to another topic with a segue   to using your real name, there's a guy named,   Germa Rudolph   who  

[00:38:20] Unknown:

We didn't talk about that on the tubes?  

[00:38:22] allen marcus:

Well, we can say   he went on Rumble   to talk with, Jake Shields guy   about a specific issue. So if you're not aware of that fire are we?  

[00:38:35] Unknown:

Yeah. No. I mean, all every instinct my body is to just pull it up and run it, but we're on YouTube. Well,  

[00:38:43] allen marcus:

we don't need to go farther than that. We can just say his name.   It's on Rumble,   and Jake Shields has a a podcast called what? Fight back or something?   Fight back episode 33.  

[00:38:55] Unknown:

How would how did Jake Shields receive his information?  

[00:39:00] allen marcus:

There was a lot of breathing into the microphone.  

[00:39:08] Unknown:

Yes.   My god were impressed.  

[00:39:12] allen marcus:

And the   the guy who was there to   hold a position   that states   these are what the history books say,   and you're saying something that isn't in the history book. So therefore, your   your, credentials   and your,   scientific,   acumen and going to certain rooms and testing   chemicals to see if there are traces of chemicals   on the walls of certain rooms that may have been used for certain rooms. And open electricity  

[00:39:41] Unknown:

even though that, particular gas that was stated is explosive?  

[00:39:46] allen marcus:

Those are   scientific facts that have been brought up on panels and debates.  

[00:39:52] Unknown:

Yeah. It's weird stuff. Right?   Right. Weird weirdly, my daughter was asking me about that, like, a like, a week or 2 ago.   I was like,  

[00:40:04] allen marcus:

what is happening right now? Did she see it talked about on TikTok?  

[00:40:09] Unknown:

She's, I think, a little old. Well, no. She does do the TikTok y thing.   Maybe. I don't know where she would have saw it.   I don't know. Like, a couple years ago, all of a sudden, she asked me she she asked me. She's like, dad, did we go to the moon? I was like,   no.   That certainly didn't happen. Dad, did we go to Antarctica?   That now see, that's a different subject.   Like like, a lot of people don't wanna mush all those together,   but being able to leave   I'm a cosmic egg guy. I've always said that even as a speaker at Flattoberfest.   So I've I've always said that.  

But to leave the firmament   or leave the   the shell that has to exist in order for 1 for a pressurized vapor system to not get sucked into   a lesser pressure system,   which is just a law of science.   There has to be a hard shell.   And so I'm not even arguing the earth shape. That's not a thing I've ever argued.   But I certainly   the whether we're in a pressurized   vapor system and that requires containment,   and then the way that our world or the system inside acts   acts exactly like a contained vapor,   vapor system does with pressure grit with pressure gradients and everything,   and then all the way from vapor all the way down to liquid.  

And then if you let off enough, not that you could do this in our environment,   but if you let off a bunch of lick a, bunch bunch of pressure off the top, the then all of a sudden more of that liquid,   which was   partially being held. A lot of people don't realize that, like, water will boil and change to vapor at,   sir, at, you know, a certain temperature,   but that's only because of atmospheric pressure. If I remove the atmospheric   pressure, then I can boil   water   at room temperature if I just take away the atmospheric pressure.   And so that's the same thing with a a normal vapor system.  

So I can argue those things. These are 2 very separate points,   and a lot of them get conflated together   because,   of course, a lot of the people in the flat earth community also don't believe that you can go to space. But this is like calling   all pod heads   complete druggies   when, true pod head won't touch other things, but it them other people will smoke pot. See, you know, it's it's you can't you can't mush it together like that.   Like, just because that meth head will smoke weed doesn't mean that I'll smoke meth.   Right.  



[00:42:58] allen marcus:

Right. No. That's fair. So I'm confused why a group of people went to the South Pole   when Santa Claus is in the North Pole at this time of year. That does seem  

[00:43:12] Unknown:

rather,  

[00:43:13] Unknown:

you know, suspect now that you mentioned it. Missed the boat a little bit on that one. Yeah.  

[00:43:22] allen marcus:

So if the sun   is seen for a 24 hour period   after going south to South America and then going over to further south,   that's like, magnetic direction.   Were they holding a compass the entire time?  

[00:43:44] Unknown:

That's how that's gotta be a horrible bill that they're putting together. That that's 2 bipartisan   and big names on it   to to   not be horrible.   Right. The protecting Americans from foreign adversary. Okay. And all the other things act. Sponsoring the same thing. That's just the you that should ought to just automatically take it out, shouldn't it? It should.   Like, anytime anytime you see bipartisanship   like that,   understand that they're what they plan on   doing is giving   you it it it it's giving you the stinger dry.  

[00:44:26] Unknown:

George Carlin had my favorite quote on that. He said bipartisan   just means that a larger than normal deception is being carried   out.  

[00:44:37] Unknown:

Yeah. Like like the the Patriot Act, which ended up morphing into the Freedom Act, which bipartisan   got voted on   consistently.   They'd be out arguing about every other petty bullshit wedge   politics BS thing out there, like, they hate each other and then quietly go vote on the Freedom Act together.   They kept that bugger rolling for, like, 20 years.  

[00:45:00] Unknown:

Mhmm.   Yeah.  

[00:45:05] Unknown:

And they killed killed Bin Laden long time ago.   We kept that go that freedom act going.  

[00:45:18] allen marcus:

Yeah. The bill introduced   in the senate on March 11, 2020   with senators Michael Bennett, Tom Cotton, Josh Hawley, and Chuck   Schumer.  

[00:45:33] Unknown:

Wow.  

[00:45:35] allen marcus:

So I remember   2020   and TikTok   was the platform   where   people were organizing   in person events   surrounding,   I guess, what we might call,   freedom and liberty and health and the right to breathe oxygen and air without covering one's face.  

[00:45:57] Unknown:

Sure.  

[00:45:59] Unknown:

And there was a lot of stuff in Minneapolis. Everywhere.  

[00:46:04] allen marcus:

There were indigenous people groups that were organizing   horse rides to pipeline events.  

[00:46:10] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

[00:46:11] allen marcus:

They were going to Minneapolis riding horses up to certain pipelines.  

[00:46:18] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:46:19] allen marcus:

And TikTok was   a place where that content was   put on people's for you pages.   So without   actively searching for it, it would just be shown to them. It was like channel surfing,   Kinda channel surf and kinda flick your thumb and see another video and see another video and see another video.  

[00:46:42] Unknown:

Can we all agree how to earth is just tunnel juice?  

[00:46:46] Unknown:

Was that Greg? Yeah. It's gotta be Greg. Okay.   Where'd that go?  

[00:46:52] Unknown:

Oh,   we can all agree   on this, sir.   Oh, hey, O'Ryan.  

[00:47:02] Unknown:

I pulled up a clip on AM wake up of,   the underground   tunnel city in ancient Turkey that could con conceivably   be connected to Gobekli Tepe.   And, yeah, man. You just you know?   Maybe the tunnel Jews are older than we thought.  

[00:47:27] Unknown:

Yeah. They've been shitting on mattresses and then and or pissing on mattresses and then sleeping on it for a long time.  

[00:47:34] Unknown:

Right.   Right.  

[00:47:36] Unknown:

You you thought that that just started today.  

[00:47:39] Unknown:

They already laid the groundwork for that hypertunnel   from London to New York.  

[00:47:47] Unknown:

They cut they come out like the mole people?  

[00:47:49] Unknown:

Mhmm. The schmole people.  

[00:47:51] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:47:54] Unknown:

That's what, Shelley  

[00:47:56] Unknown:

and Waco producer assist That's why they got the little hat. They don't need brims on their hats. I understand now. See, Steve's got a brim on his hat. What's that brim do for you there, Steve? Well, it keeps the sun  

[00:48:08] Unknown:

out of my eyes.   Oh. Brim on your hat. Yeah. Oh, so if I had a hat that was only, like, here, just like right here, would that Debris doesn't fall on your soft spot when you're tunneling.  

[00:48:21] Unknown:

That that does make sense.   This is coming together.  

[00:48:25] Unknown:

This is coming together. Yeah. They used to be made out of used to be made out of iron back in the day. Yeah. Yeah.   Iron yarmulke.  

[00:48:36] allen marcus:

Iron dome? What are you trying to do? The original iron dome. That is the original iron dome. Dome. Dome. Yeah.  

[00:48:44] Unknown:

Protecting the soft spot from Yeah. Your your tunneling.  

[00:48:48] Unknown:

Yeah. Back then, the paragliding,   the paragliders   were like mosquitoes, though, that were able to get We had to hop on a pterodactyl,  

[00:48:56] Unknown:

Ben. It was different times.   Different times.  

[00:49:01] allen marcus:

When did the feather grow out of the dinosaur skin?   How did that emerge?   I I think   my favorite   earliest   debate in my debate career   dancer on the topic of creationism   versus evolution,   the Scopes monkey trial.  

[00:49:21] Unknown:

And there was What what what what is this career you're talking about here? You have other debates?   You know how to speaking in class. Did you ever answer a question ever one time in any any of these days?  

[00:49:34] Unknown:

It it was in his,   evasion   in a version seminar.  

[00:49:38] allen marcus:

The training is   to ask clarifying questions after answering  

[00:49:43] Unknown:

questions. Quantico.  

[00:49:44] Unknown:

Respond to question mark with more question marks. See, see, you notice how I asked a direct question, but he is He evaded it. He evaded it and asked more questions.  

[00:49:54] Unknown:

Mhmm. Yeah.   We're on to you, buddy. This is how we clarify.  

[00:50:00] allen marcus:

So the opposite of clarify is to modify.   So I state that I'm clarifying.   Well, in fact, I'm actually modifying. Obfuscating. Yeah. Obfuscating. Yep. Bobbing and weaving. Yep. Yeah. Ducking and covering. Right. You're like the white Muhammad Ali. We get it.  

[00:50:17] Unknown:

Right. So these are all fair tactics to do. He might he might be fucking Roy Jones junior fucking class, dude.  

[00:50:24] Unknown:

Freaking. What?  

[00:50:25] Unknown:

What? Snow Mayweather.  

[00:50:31] allen marcus:

It's like I can map out your debate while you're still trying to figure out if I'm even on the map.   It's like how you play Battleship. Right?  

[00:50:41] Unknown:

Well, the way you play Battleship from what I could tell would be as the other person says the numbers, you just move your Battleship and then you go.  

[00:50:50] Unknown:

You're like, nope.   Tell my sister played Battleship for sure. I get I get a direct hit. I get a another free turn. She also answers questions with questions.  

[00:51:12] Unknown:

Keep a track of their keeping track of their shots. That way you can fit your shipper in them afterwards.   Make sure you aren't fucking putting your you aren't putting it somewhere that they've already called.  

[00:51:24] Unknown:

Right.   Well, that's funny.  

[00:51:28] Unknown:

Is your ship on e 6?   What? No.   No. No.   What?   Why are you bothering me?  

[00:51:44] Unknown:

I'm getting really tired of you accusing me of having my ship on the e six. I already told you.   It's not there.  

[00:51:54] Unknown:

I've checkerboarded the whole thing.   You have to have a ship on e 6.  

[00:52:02] Unknown:

Go   fish.  

[00:52:08] Unknown:

Is this what they teach you in Christian school?  

[00:52:12] Unknown:

How to cheat a battleship?  

[00:52:15] allen marcus:

How to cheat   without being a,   caught.   Yeah. You know? It's like, it's the apologetics  

[00:52:22] Unknown:

course. You know? You're Oh, yeah. Yeah. You're trained to  

[00:52:26] allen marcus:

deflect the questions and reframe the questions.  

[00:52:29] Unknown:

I I appreciate world view. I actually appreciated that Wayne said that because I gotta be honest.   I literally didn't know what Christian apologetics was before that. Mhmm. And I was just like,   I oh, and, like, when, like, when Andrew the he's one of the first people I've heard say that phrase,   and he refers to Jay Dyer as that, and I kinda and I thought it was like a slam.   It's like   but, again, I I was like  

[00:52:57] allen marcus:

As an apologist, someone who apologized. You're apologizing   for, like, your religion or something like that. Yeah. The debate. I'm sorry. I destroyed you in the debate. I'm sorry.   This is gonna be rough.   No. The the   apologetics   is sort of this   art and science of understanding   a theological worldview   according to  

[00:53:23] Unknown:

those who have come before you. So it's already established in the church. He says he thought that was Hebrew school. School. Did you go to Hebrew school, Marcus?  

[00:53:31] Unknown:

No. I did not go to Hebrew. There it's so there every Abrahamic   tradition   has a school of apologetics.   Yes. And then there are sub apologetics   throughout  

[00:53:47] Unknown:

major religions too. This was more in reference to the evasion   techniques.  

[00:53:53] allen marcus:

Well, that was taught in, like, a biblical world view class where I had to  

[00:53:58] Unknown:

all Abrahamics are, like,   lie, cheat, steal as long as you don't get caught.  

[00:54:04] allen marcus:

Give me some shackles. Well, to be fair, the point I'm arriving at in   conclusion   is that all sides,   once they've decided who their thought leader is, they fall in line with the thought leader. So then they find their talking points and then just memorize them and and respond with a talking point. So, oh, I hear your argument. It sounds to me like you're talking about this, and then they provide   their talking point that they've already established   as something they've memorized.  

[00:54:36] Unknown:

So once they leave the script thoughts, aren't they just church synths?  

[00:54:42] Unknown:

Sure. And Another thing that I've noticed,   from a recent   little act,   interaction   that Christians or Abrahamics like to have their own   definitions of things, almost like black's law,   where you can speak in very plain,   understandings that everybody has,   and then they like to say things in another in but what they're saying isn't what you're saying because   they have a whole other definition for a word.  

[00:55:17] allen marcus:

Yes.   That   that does happen as well.   And within the under the umbrella of Christendom,   certainly.   And there's a lot of arguments   that are happening in real time now between   the orthodox  

[00:55:35] Unknown:

folks. It's almost like somebody should have made a book   that had words with the universal  

[00:55:41] Unknown:

wrote this all out. Definition and wrote this all out. Understand it. Yeah. So we could have conversations with each other. And In order to avoid some sort of great schism or something of that nature?  

[00:55:54] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's,  

[00:55:56] allen marcus:

I wish somebody would have thought of that. That's a good point. Do you have the old lexicon? I don't agree with the new lexicon.  

[00:56:05] Unknown:

We've we've decided   that lesbian ladies can be preachers now.  

[00:56:12] allen marcus:

We have, the 3 of us,   in the churches. Dude.  

[00:56:16] Unknown:

This is that's I've seen,   a number of different  

[00:56:20] allen marcus:

clips on Twitter. I guess that's something Right. Protestant church now. Sure. Sure. So maybe that's the the softening of the foundation.   That is the poison in the well. That's how you destroy something   from within it by joining it, and then you transform it. Definitely changing what words mean. That's for sure.   Yeah.  

[00:56:42] Unknown:

Oh, and that that is really the most devious shit.   You know, like, the the one honestly,   there was,   this is where I had a fairly,   large,   schism with my family.   Because   I've got a large section of my family that when the BLM stuff started, they all jumped on that jumped on that stupid train.   And they're teaching these kids that,   racism includes   the ability to have,   power over another person in order to be racist.   And so   then   also   they've made this into a white   system. So anybody that's not white can't possibly be racist.   And that's just absolutely insane.  

And so then there and so then in that umbrella of I've changed the meanings,   they can say the most outlandish   racist stuff,   and it's not racist because it's not even something that's a   a a viable thing because in their definition, it it it   they it can't be.   So   even though racism just for the rest of us is just thinking that you're better than other people because of the race you were born,   like,   that, you know, that's just,   for the for everybody else because they have Sometimes it's not racism. Caveat that they've made.  

[00:58:10] allen marcus:

Sometimes it's just humor.   And to appear on a stage, you know, wearing a sombrero,   sitting at a piano, and then referring to yourself as Elton Juan,   the rock   that's performance   art. That's fun.   And there's certain groups that are erased by not being recognized   in humor.   That's fair. So the idea of racism,   this this is an idea.  

[00:58:38] Unknown:

So now we're talking about Did you just did you do some self snitching there with the Elton Juan thing?   Is this, one of your personas or did go out the exit strategy,   second gig?   Well Is that what that was about? Busting I have seen his glamour shots.   Yeah. Does he does he look like he could crocodile rock?  

[00:59:06] Unknown:

It it you know what? He might have had boots with toes up to, like, his knees. Boots with the furs.   I don't think the furs it did it looked you're you're older than that, Marcus. Quit pretending like like that was back when the boots with the furs thing. You aren't   you aren't a millennial.  

[00:59:26] allen marcus:

I can wear apple bottom jeans.  

[00:59:31] Unknown:

Have you, have you ever heard the bluegrass version of that   by the Nope. The Cleverleys?   Cleverleys. Oh, we're taking a music break right now, gentlemen. Good. Alright.   Yeah. We are.  

[00:59:45] allen marcus:

We are. The Cleverleys and the Gish Gallopers.   We are putting a lot of topics on the table, kind of just, dancing around certain topics to see what we can and cannot get away with.   Certainly.  

[01:00:02] Unknown:

Are we testing the YouTube algorithm?  

[01:00:06] allen marcus:

A part of   it might be to confuse it.  

[01:00:10] Unknown:

Right.   So does that mean we should return to the crystal   thing?   Man yam.  

[01:00:18] allen marcus:

Man yam. Man yam. Yeah.  

[01:01:19] Unknown:

And she feels the groove, shouted through. You're draining me. How she rolled up in a Bobby. I feel like Steve Martin from the jerk  

[01:01:27] Unknown:

because I only just now understood about half those words.   I can't dance, mama.  

[01:01:41] allen marcus:

Sure. Put a little twang on it.  

[01:01:44] Unknown:

No.   I keep all the kids looking at it. Understand what the fuck's being said.   Like, what the hell is that? There you go.  

[01:01:53] Unknown:

I I like that almost as much as I like the barber Shop quartet   version of it wasn't me   by Shaggy.  

[01:02:08] Unknown:

I know I know I know I know I know I know I understand any of the words of that song except for the boots with the fur part before this. And all of a sudden, I'm like,   oh,   there's lyrics in there. It's not just blah blah blah boots with the fur   blah blah   looking at her   Blah   blah.  

[01:02:27] allen marcus:

Like, yeah, it's not quite some cursive singing   sort of,   glossolalia.   What's up, man?  

[01:02:38] Unknown:

Hey. What's up? Wife. She,  

[01:02:40] Unknown:

she called me. How how I Nerd.  

[01:02:44] Unknown:

Here. Australians can never be real artists. Let me do this real quick too.  

[01:02:50] allen marcus:

Are they Australian?  

[01:02:52] Unknown:

No. They're not Australian.  

[01:02:55] Unknown:

You'll hear. Okay. You wanna catch you? I know. I don't know what I was thinking.   Whoop whoop. You know, the, the au pair from Next Door.   I don't know what I'm going to do.   Say it wasn't you. Sweet  

[01:03:13] Unknown:

snow. Honey Kelly and then she call me red honey, creamy with the girl next door. Next door. We were both butt naked banging on the bathroom floor. I had   I even had her in the shower. It wasn't me. Do you even call me on camera?  

[01:04:08] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[01:04:11] Unknown:

I don't know anything about gaslighting.  

[01:04:15] allen marcus:

It's a gaslight orchestra.  

[01:04:17] Unknown:

Yeah. That's what I mean. What was it? Old black and white boy where the chick walks in and finds him banging his wife, and he gets up and just starts getting dressed. Like,   what are you talking about, bitch?   Hey.   The fuck you mean?   Crazy.   Going to work. He keeps my house. This is my house.  

[01:04:37] Unknown:

He's a bad man. Out of my house. He's a bad man. He's a bad man. He's a bad man. He's a bad man. He's a bad man. He's a bad man. He's a bad man. He's a bad man. He's a bad man. He's a bad man. He's a bad man. He's a bad man. He's a bad man. He's a bad man. He's a bad man. He's a bad man. He  

[01:04:44] Unknown:

Jesus.  

[01:04:46] allen marcus:

No. Just own it. Just own it.  

[01:04:48] Unknown:

Yeah. That that would that that kind of crap, it wasn't at all   what led to the freaking   crazed feminist movements. And it it had nothing to do with it.   Probably shouldn't take you know what? We should start acting like that again as we're trying to set this ship right. We should that's probably where we should go with it again.   That'll fix it.  

[01:05:12] allen marcus:

Yeah.   Does this argument hold water?   Will it float?  

[01:05:20] Unknown:

I mean, look. Do you know that   for every action, there is a   dramatic   American   overreaction   to all of that.   And steroids.  

[01:05:34] Unknown:

You  

[01:05:35] allen marcus:

know, John, we're on YouTube reaction videos where people just overreact.  

[01:05:39] Unknown:

I mean, well, I did since we've been talking about various different, you know,   forms of or sex of Christianity   and stuff like that, I mean, I really do see the   rise in ortho bros as a, you know, reaction to   all of the   danger haired woke nonsense,   which in and of itself is a, you know, manifestation   of feminism just like we had   GLO on,   talking about the, you know, whole red pill movement   as the other side of the feminism   SIOP coin.  

[01:06:23] Unknown:

Yep.   Yep. A 100%.   Is it good?   No. Were the things that well, while I like GLO as a person, I think he was a I think he's a hell, you know, a hell of a decent guy.   I think that the points that and I think he's actually growing out of some of these things.   And he's caught in this weird crossroads where he got known for these things, but I think probably isn't necessarily trying to be them anymore.   So I think he's a pretty decent guy, but the things that that's that, you know, the the life that's being promoted,   trying to use women as basically,   comesock   and, you know, just acting like a little little loser.  

This is not the the route to make things better.   This isn't and and   we're at such a tough point where we at where the we need to come to a reality check.   And there's life is just can't be equal for everybody. And I know that on Hollywood and in the, you know, in the movies,   everybody tries saying that everybody should have this great and equal life. But some of you people,   like, there's a if you're that weak and pathetic of a person, you probably shouldn't be getting late. You probably shouldn't be procreating.   Like, maybe that's, you you should you're not worth   it. Like, it's it's it sucks that,   unfortunately,   that there's a extreme high number of virgins for men,   then, a a number of men that basically   take up the volume of the the   intercourse.  

It sucks.   Yeah,   you know? But,  

[01:08:18] Unknown:

those dudes.   Anyway,   I'm   I know. Right? Right? Thanks.  

[01:08:25] Unknown:

I I feel a little You hate it. But, like, like, I'm, like, the billionaire that's, like, yeah. Work harder. Fuck up.  

[01:08:34] Unknown:

I would just stop being poor then. The  

[01:08:39] allen marcus:

the intercourse   discourse   continues,   and the reality   check   that   not everyone   is going to have the same amount of body counts.   Have you heard the body count discourse  

[01:08:54] Unknown:

becoming a popular thing again? I largely agree with the the, you know,   kinda, I guess,   red pill point on it. Mhmm. But the best way that I ever heard it described, there was   a black dude on a podcast,   and there were a couple of black women that were going off giving what what I've come to realize is a pretty standard argument. You know? Like, that's my past. It's not your business. You're insecure. This, that, and the 3rd, and blah blah.   And, like,   and then, you know, hitting them with   the well, what about Flip It? You know? What about a dude with a a high body count? You know? Why would why does it matter   then? You know? And he'd be in a hypocrite. And Buddy picks up   a cup,   and he goes,   now look. If,   16 different women   come up and they grab this cup   and they take a drink of water. Mhmm. They hand it back to me. I can wash off this cup   before I hand it to the next woman. But if 16 or 17 dudes come up and they   dip their shit in the cup, then it changes   the nature of the beverage, and I don't want it anymore.  

That's what that is. It's like, holy shit. See,  

[01:10:18] Unknown:

if,   a glo would be had been more prepared for those arguments   and a a a better debater, not that we're great debaters. You know? We also are trying to learn that path, and he's not a debater. So   not holding him to saying, oh, we're superior. You know? But he just wasn't prepared for that.   The,   had he been prepared to fight me on that, I have some very   valid arguments   against what's being said there. Now   the the the the general argument that the red pill lays out, and it is true   that   a a guy   the way women compete is   for men. Men compete for everything, literally   everything else.  

It doesn't fucking matter how stupid and retarded   the the the contest is.   Whether it's   you know, when I was over in Germany, there was a game where you would smack your finger like that. Yeah. Yeah. And the other guy go like that and smack his finger. And the point to the game was whoever's finger swelled up and split open like a ballpark Frank, he lost. Yeah. The other guys, he   he still lost. Like Yeah. Let's get real about this. See, there was no winner in this game.   You know? My your skin split open.   You sissy.  

Like, you know, like, this is how bad guys will compete over anything. Women compete over guys. Now that's now the thing is   is that's an immature thing   on both parts.   And so,   when you're delving into the pool of people   that are gonna do that,   they,   you're, seeking immature people. And whether that's an immature man or an immature woman, you're not gonna find a real good partner in that. And and you're taking a real crapshoot   because, night, Brian, you don't know if they're ever gonna reach maturity,   or or what it's gonna look like when they do. So   that that's a a   so for men,   also,   it's real easily understood and all of us understand that a woman's DNA and like Steve's,   which was a really good argument. It really was. That was well done.  

The the the cup thing.   But,   yeah, that one would be hard to overcome.  

[01:12:45] Unknown:

But those chicks in their tracks on the podcast. They were like, I believe it.  

[01:12:51] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. That's hard to overcome. Not not unfortunately,   while there is a there is an argument, but it's only an intellectual one because   it doesn't give you the visuals   that that does. So that's that's part of the thing with learning to debate is is some things like, in it the argument might might be more correct, but that doesn't mean that the people are gonna receive it as well. And so but the the fact is is there's a thing called the horizontal DNA transfer.   So horizontal DNA transfer means that every woman that I've ever slept with, I have had a transfer and taken on   their DNA,   and that's altered my DNA also.  

And so,   it doesn't have quite the visceral,   bite to it that, a comes stock does.   But, you know, it it but it it the fact is is in all reality,   after say, you know, she's had her period, once that whole system's been flushed out, renewed, cleaned,   what's on what's been left behind is is a DNA change.   And the same thing applies to men. And then   once you get past that immature portion of people that them women that will compete with each other over a man   and accept this a very immature man who's willing to have sex with multiple women.   Once you get past that and you find the the more elite people, the leaders among people,   you find that they aren't accepting of that kind of thing at all. That historically,   in numerous,   instances, and even in the United States,   they fucking started an impeachment inquiry on Bill Clinton   about fucking because he got a blow job.  

A blow job.   Like, does that seem like it's okay   for dudes to just be philandering? Like, that's an ex a publicly accepted thing? I mean, this guy literally   was part of the whole MENA, Arkansas. Our country got flooded with cocaine   and then flooded with,   brown people and guns,   you know, under his under his signature.   And   amongst,   a thousand other things with Bill Clinton and the nonsense that went on during his his   administrations. But the thing that the country's like, we can't put up with that is a BJ   by an intern.   We can't handle that. Some philandering   is no go,   And that's historically   happened   lots of times where if you aren't   the most respected man,   the measure here's here's the whole thing. Like,   I'm an asshole.  

I know I know this,   and and I'm not enlightening you 2 of this either.   Steve's lived with me, and Marcus has known me for a number of years now in in both. We've spent many hours   on air and off air together enough to where he knows who I am.   The reason that that's partially acceptable for women, even though I'm abrasive at first and and you would think that they would automatically   dislike me, is because   I have a wife who adores me.   That doesn't for a mature woman, that doesn't make me   something they wanna have sex with. It makes me something   more respectable because, obviously, I know how to be a good husband to my wife.  

So that means I'm doing some things whether you find me abrasive or not.   My wife gets taken care of and they're aware of that. That's that's a measurement for them   of my husbandry abilities   and and it's a good measurement.   And so   there's arguments to be had against what they're saying in that red pill community.   He just wasn't ready to uphold those.  

[01:16:54] Unknown:

Yeah.   Yeah.  

[01:16:57] allen marcus:

I wanted to bring up a guy named Joshua Harris who wrote a book called I Kissed Dating Goodbye. He was a very young man when he wrote the book.   And after having published that book,   receiving feedback from people who   read the book, there are many churches who led, you know, reading groups using this material. The idea that   purity pledges are a good thing to kiss dating goodbye in the in the sense of not having physical contact with anybody until you have a a marriage and a bed to to do that in.   He, over the course of his life, and due to maybe social media and email and Internet, allowed a lot of people to send the messages.   And he   read in real time   the stories of people who   tried the I Kissed Dating Goodbye method, and it didn't work for them. It was a one size fit all for everybody,   and it didn't fit a lot of people. So they talk about the damage it did to them. He gathered that information   and then wrote another book, and he revised   his son, and he apologized   to these people.  

With a lot of the young influencers and the fit and fresh crew and   the people who are jumping into sort of social,   criticism, like cultural criticisms, these ideas, They're they're young. They have a lot of steam. They have a lot of energy. They have gamer chairs   to sit in. They have gamer fuel. They have caffeine, and they have a lot of   fire and just, I wanna talk and and then people reward them   for talking and talking and talking and talking.  

[01:18:36] Unknown:

What do you think the percentage of the of the podcast   world started out as gamers   and and broadcasting as gamers? What what what do because I I I have also noticed what you're talking about,   and and it seems to me like like, you take, like, a guy like Destiny. Part of the reason Destiny can live in complete unreality is because he's never been   in reality. He's never went out and worked, did a construction job, moved his way up, been dog shit for a couple years, and gotten better at something and made real progress in the world. He's been a fucking he's been a fucking   streamer,   gamer, YouTuber   doing nothing productive his whole fucking life. Like   and now somehow his opinion is that's now become influencer.  

Well, fuck.   I would never, you know and it shows you that that what a world we live in where the person that you're choosing to influence you has never really lived life.   Like, all the dude does is have weird sex,   which I understand a lot of these dudes. And document it.   I I I again, I understand True of that. With this high number of,   incels.   And even if they aren't incels, they're   close to an incel.   You know? Maybe maybe, you know, messed around once or something. Like, these people that aren't able to engage   in a in a fulfilling relationship   is the reality of it.  

I understand that,   that's there's a draw   of that.   But,   man,   like, again, the influencer,   like, you this again, this is where   our one of our first debates   whether   was about whether women should vote. Mhmm.   But I again hold the position that   before women's suffrage, men's suffrage was a big problem.   That these dudes   should not be voting.   Right? These dudes are not which isn't to say that they should live some second class life and be treated like shit. It just means that maybe when it comes time to steer the ship, don't let them steer it.  

[01:20:59] allen marcus:

Right.   To answer your question directly now about people who   in the course of their life, you know, teenagers, they want to build a computer   because they see   other people building a computer.   So they might not have a file to fix plug and play anymore?  

[01:21:17] Unknown:

Is there any building a computer anymore? Isn't it just plug and play?  

[01:21:21] allen marcus:

Again, imagine   a young person who sees a computer, and they're like, that is   impossible to understand.   And then over time, because their interest goes towards   computers   instead of, say, cars or houses   or barns   or other things,   all of their attention goes into   this is a computer.   I can watch a streamer.   I like the streamer. The streamer is maybe, like, a big brother figure   or a father figure or an uncle. Like, a masculine   figure that they admire.   They admire because of other people   who are also admiring them. So there's a social  

[01:22:02] Unknown:

club. If you find destiny   to be a masculine figure you admire   I got news for you, buddy.  

[01:22:12] Unknown:

Look. I don't think anybody does. I I really don't, but it's been fun watching him   get his ass handed to him   time and time again.   And then I saw a clip this morning.   I I don't think Amazing.   I mean,   I've   there's a freaking Adderall   jaw.   Jesus.   Dude,   I saw a clip this morning. I didn't play it on the show. I usually don't play clips of that clown.   Just,  

[01:22:45] Unknown:

you know, but It almost feels a little unfair now that he's changed his medication because he's just recently been diagnosed with ADHD, and now he's on new meds. And this is part of why he can't answer anything   and fucking   is is gets all weirded out and sidetracks and everything. It's because he's Is that his excuse?   Is that his excuse? Is that what he's gonna say? That was straight up. He was getting he was he was in an interview. I can't remember who the guy he he was who was interviewing him, but, like,   Destiny was just and he's like, yeah. I I just recently got,   diagnosed with   ADHD,   and now they're on drugs. And and you know what? For the first time, I can read a book. And the guy goes, what book did you read?  

And then Destiny sits there just   and did, like, the Mitch McConnell. Swear to god. Like, this Mitch McConnell them. Right? And then he goes, oh, I was trying to think of a joke, but,   like,   fucking.   Yeah. The old McConnell.  

[01:23:55] Unknown:

Right.   And we all know it was, like, how to build your own cuck chair or something like that.  

[01:24:06] Unknown:

Dude,  

[01:24:07] Unknown:

and what gets me is dudes, everybody weird Oh, okay. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. You have a clip?   Yeah.   Let me  

[01:24:16] Unknown:

You got the clip of this interview?  

[01:24:19] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:24:21] Unknown:

Yeah. This is the same interview where he whined about,   getting clobbered by Norm Finkelstein.  

[01:24:29] Unknown:

Yeah. Because he's he he says it's because he just started adult ADHD drugs. Well, how old is this dude? Like, 35?  

[01:24:37] Unknown:

I don't know, man. He's a clown. YouTube debater.  

[01:24:41] Unknown:

And you but you're saying that you debate No. That's the one where he's So we'll give you a Oh, it is. It is. Yep. This is the point.  

[01:24:48] Unknown:

I don't know what initially here. I think that, personally,   in,   like, the month before October, it was the first time I'd ever had, like, a formal diagnosis for ADHD, and I started medication for it.   So for the very Are you gonna do this TikTok trap with your mental illness? No. I'm saying that for the first time in my life. Okay? Because there's been a lot of jokes on my stream about how, I'm always playing games, and I'm, like, debating people at the same time, and I'm watching videos. And I'm like, oh, dude. But I started medication, and I noticed afterwards, I can actually sit and just read a book. And I it's been very hard to, like, read,   like, full books and read in whole papers and stuff. You started reading books. Yeah. Books. What's your first book?  



[01:25:30] Unknown:

What do you read? Are.  

[01:25:33] Unknown:

Straight up, Mitch McConnell there, dude. Game. Neil Strauss, the game. Yeah. He's just Right. Okay. Go. Hilarious capital reference.  

[01:25:40] allen marcus:

Why don't you Neil Strauss again. Okay. Continue.  

[01:25:43] Unknown:

Like, it and it's not like he can hold him to it. You know, like, if you've been reading a bunch of books, just name 1. You don't have to name the very first one that you started reading. Just name it. Like, don't  

[01:25:56] allen marcus:

So before the bees keep buzzing under your bonnet, I'm gonna ask, do you guys know who the interviewer is in this clip?  

[01:26:02] Unknown:

I can't remember who the guy is. I can't remember his name. So this is Adam  

[01:26:06] allen marcus:

free free free That's right.   Who was on a podcast called Comptown.  

[01:26:13] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:26:16] allen marcus:

So, again,  

[01:26:18] Unknown:

if it's just How did you know that, Marcus? I swear to God. Because I'm a little in and fucking Yeah.   Yeah. Like, have you ever have you ever fucking do you remember White Men Can't Jump?  

[01:26:30] allen marcus:

Kareem Abdul Jabbar?  

[01:26:32] Unknown:

No. With Woody Harrelson and Wesley Snipes. Wesley Snipes. Yeah. You're and and fucking what's her name? The boxing announcer was in it? Whoopi Goldberg.   No. No. The the boxing announcer. Yeah. No. I'm proven.  

[01:26:48] allen marcus:

Rosie Perez. I don't have to be familiarity  

[01:26:51] Unknown:

with The boxing announcer. Jesus Christ.   Come on. That was great. Right? You gotta go put on your old man glasses for that one.   Yeah.  

[01:27:02] Unknown:

You gotta go grab me. My side.   Alright.   Rosie Perez in that movie was just like an encyclopedia   of fucking information that nobody else knew because she was trying to with great titties.   Yeah. And she was trying to prep herself for fucking jeopardy years to be on jeopardy.   This is like Marcus. Like, you can't really say hardly anything without the dude fucking having at least some   idea and backstory to it and shit. You're just like, how the fuck do you fucking know all this? Like,   how goddamn   eclectic is your fucking interest?  

[01:27:41] Unknown:

I mean, in fairness, Nick Mullen's pretty funny.  

[01:27:45] allen marcus:

This is this is, my credentials as a social media manager. I manage social media. I I try to manage my social media addiction, and I don't do so well. That's why I'm telling you. When I'm on threads and I'm scrolling through threads,   and then I see what the patterns are, I'm like, okay.   K m f d m is a topic. Why is this a topic?   So it's the most,   back alleyway to reach   the headline,   the chatter around it.   So now I'm bringing that chatter to you guys to say that this is Adam Friedland from, show, a podcast called Calm Town, connecting it back to your last question about   when you give young men computers and microphones and Internet, well, what do they do? They start a podcast with their friends.  

Why do they do it? Because no one tells them no.   Their parents don't say,   wait until you're 18. Or Well, it just seems  

[01:28:42] Unknown:

the the the 2 parallel the one parallel, and I and for and weirdly, I fall into one of these actually.   The weird parallel I would make with it is is the prison to podcast,   movement where you see a yeah. I know. Right? That's it's kind of funny. And I and it almost seems like neither both parties is because neither part neither in neither instance do they have any actual   marketable   life skills. Now I don't fit into that part in any way, shape, or form.   I you know, unlike a lot of people, I didn't I didn't get in trouble till I was older, and then it was,   for cannabis, but I had it was used controlling,   grandma seizure,   disease that I have.  

And as soon as medical was available, I was given, like, a giant medical. Like, they're like, no. You just take as much as you need always.   But,   at the time, that wasn't the case, and they thought that me taking,   Klonopin and Seroquel, which base incapacitated   me and made me a fat zombie,   which, you know, I does match most of society at this point. What was acceptable, and I didn't really like that. Are you empathizing  

[01:29:59] allen marcus:

with   Destiny and his journey through No. No. I think he's a promotion.  

[01:30:05] Unknown:

I think he's gotten caught in so many bad things recently   that he's gotta   and, actually, if you listen, I spookums.   That's my debate partner spookums.  

[01:30:16] allen marcus:

That was a question from Rockfin. What is the name of the cat? Oh, yeah.  

[01:30:21] Unknown:

This one spookums. He's   the one who likes to debate with me the most. There's a lot of If this was the cat you were asking about, not all the cats have names that I know. I don't know all their names. I know this one's name, though. This is spooky.   Anybody that wants some cats, we're we're we're it's take one cat, get 3 free,   and,   you you just have as many cats as you like.   Just come take you can't have this cat. This is my debate partner.   But I don't believe and if you watch some of the stories,   about him,   like, especially, like, most recently with this, is there is it Lauren Hill?  



[01:31:04] allen marcus:

In the center. Lauren Southern. That  

[01:31:10] Unknown:

anyways, he had an affair with a married lady.   Obviously shows his character. At the same point, at the same time, videos are coming out of him,   knobbing off a dude, which and people are acting out like, oh my god about it? Really? A dude named Destin who calls himself Destiny and you're, like, shocked by that? Well, allegedly, the dude is Nick Fuentes, which is hilarious.   Yeah.   You you you know if that was true that at this point in time, Destiny himself would be screaming that to everybody just to burn that dude.   You know? Just to burn him.  

Like,  

[01:31:49] Unknown:

there there's just no way that that's true. Maybe Nick had an NDA in the car, man.  

[01:31:55] Unknown:

Did you ever think about Right? You can go ahead and record this, but you can't tell anybody about it. Like, I you know what? I don't know what these weird Hollywoody people do.   You know?   But the the fact is is the dude so when he got that whole Lauren Southern thing,   there's a whole another thing with some chick that came out, and he apparently was doing a lot of blackmailing.   And he was saying things like, oh, I've gotta win this battle   with these people. So he he was willing to burn this other chick. The guy's just scuzzy,   and he was bringing up mental health to all these girls. And, like, apparently, that was, like, the one of the big keys to them   getting his way back in. You know? Oh, I mean, it's just my mental health. So I think that this is just,   a game that he's playing because he's done a lot of really,   really immoral, really gross things.  

And and then on top of that,   when he came out after that whole, assassination   attempt on,   Trump,   the,   when he came out and started saying what was that? Was that guy a fireman or a postal worker or whatever? And he's like, yeah. I don't feel bad about him dying good. I'm glad he died and whoever would be at those things, and he just started, like,   you know what?   Like, that's crazed right there. That's a 100% crazed. If you're   but no matter   political people are caught up in nonsense, but they honestly   every one of them is just caught up. They they they all honestly want the best for for the country,   for the people in the country, even the really weird crazed libtards.  

Like, they most people don't go home and say, oh, I want bad things for everybody,   but good things for me. Like, they they generally want they're just confused, retarded people.   Like, they generally for me and my friends and bad things for my enemies and their You know, I don't think most people even give it that much thought, Marcus. I don't think most people   I think that that's something that the the political   polarity creates   at best. And, yeah, it's it it is heightened up recently, but I don't think the vast majority of people go home and wish harm on anybody. No. What you're talking about requires a buy in,  

[01:34:14] Unknown:

you know, on a handful of different levels. To be that angry   at people for no real reason, no rational reason,   that requires an investment.   And, you know, time, energy,   in a lot of cases, your financial   resources. You   you've gotta you you've gotta put work in   in order to and really ultimately, like, accept that branch of the state   as your replacement lord and savior   if you're gonna   be the, you know,   terminally online in real life reactionary   dingbat.  

[01:34:52] Unknown:

Yeah. You've got it. You've got to accept them as your that your ego is now them. You don't have your own ego. Yeah. You're right. They are your ego. Yeah.  

[01:35:03] Unknown:

Yeah.   You've tied your being to their   existence   and defending whatever it is they do and   glorifying   whatever tiny little scrap they throw your way.   It's the most, you know, massive,   pre you know,   what definition,   example of progress, and recorded human history that's ever been.  

[01:35:30] allen marcus:

Yeah. So for for Destiny going through all of this,   leaks and stuff, his private chats have been shared and over and over again. It it is brand recognition   has increased.   And as,   edutainer   who's   in a debate circuit,   who has social media clout as the currency,   more and more people know who Destiny is now   than ever before. His brand recognition   has increased, and for him to go on the Adam Freeland   show, it's   that show itself is sort of this mesmerizing   disgust   where it's a parody of a parody of a parody of a parody. And the horseshoe theory is that if you, you know, have a horseshoe, so over here is parody, but then this is a real show. And because they're so close together, you can't tell if it's a parody of a parody of a parody. And at some point, the parodies equal out, and now it's a a real   show with a real person. But the people on the show are not real because they're playing parodies of themselves. So even if the content of the show and the producers and the style of the show is sincere,   it's still a parody because the people playing it are, like you say, themselves,   clowns. So they don't have a reputation   to   maintain   in sort of a high integrity,   high standard sort   of thing.  

They're   supposed to be clowns and   edutainers  

[01:37:02] Unknown:

in the Well, it it it's honestly like reality TV   moved out to real life. Like, most recently,   to to, you know, point out what Marcus is saying here,   the BLM people.   When this Daniel Penney guy who goes and takes down a dude who's threatening women and children has actually punched old women in the face   and things like that and takes him down and incapacitates   him while he's openly threatening a whole train full of people,   including women and children,   then for them to sit go out there,   that's nobody in the world high spookums.   Nobody in the world believes that that dude was being racist.  

Like, you know, so to go out there and try and be like, oh, white people just always looking for a reason to kill black people.   You know, that that's the you're being absolutely insane.   The it and so nobody   with any rational mind can believe that for one second. So that dude,   as he's sitting there screaming that nonsense,   you know that he's he's damn it, spookums.   You you know that,   he's being a clown, and he knows he's being a clown. Like, he knows that that's what he's saying is incorrect.   And that man and, actually,   like, some of the witnesses that went against him were were colored women and things like that that went and stood up for this Daniel Penney. And they're like, oh, we were so relieved when somebody stopped that. Like,   so to to pretend like that dude was doing something out of racial motivation, that that's absolute insanity.  



[01:38:47] Unknown:

You know? I'm gonna need somebody to go back and clip out, damn it, spookums and send me the mazes sound drop. I'm gonna need I'm gonna need that. Talking about racial stuff?  

[01:38:59] allen marcus:

Yeah. A 10 hour, 3 minutes.  

[01:39:02] Unknown:

No. Just just, damn it, spookums. That's all I want as the sound drops. Somebody please make it happen.  

[01:39:11] Unknown:

Andy's back.   Which in the telegram, Marcus, pull this up. Yes. I do have giant pit bulls, an army of them, and cats at the same time, and and my big vicious pit bulls.   Here's here's an excellent picture of my pit bull and   just surrounded the   Christy has a box of clothes   that she has that were dirty and, of course, the dogs and animals. So then you got   3 pit 3 kittens, and the kittens are just piling in there and the pit bulls. Like,   it's ridiculous.   And Scottie, the mama dog, including Gomez's mom. They,   I said that for everybody else. Steve obviously knew that.  

The,   mama dog, she lets kittens nurse off her even though she don't have any milk. That's a fact. Look at all them kittens stuffed in around her and honor.   It was like   and it's right behind the fireplace, so everybody likes that spot. It's hilarious.  

[01:40:12] allen marcus:

There are a dozen there are a dozen kittens hidden in that picture.  

[01:40:17] Unknown:

Yes. That's too big. Hidden kitten. The YouTube.  

[01:40:21] Unknown:

Yeah.   Yeah.   So everybody, please come take a kitten.  

[01:40:27] Unknown:

And a goat. And a goat. Yeah. Yes. Dude, we had to bring a whole ass, like,   little couch into the bedroom so that Gomez wouldn't   would finally get off the bed.   He has to be elevated.   He won't sleep while he refuses to sleep on the floor.   His delicate princess puppy paws cannot be touching. He's gotta be   on the on the couch.   He wouldn't even take a dog bed.  

[01:40:55] Unknown:

He said no to a dog bed. Yeah. No. That is that is not acceptable.   Yeah. My favorite is is when you kick him off the bed tear, he'll come over, and then he'll put his face, like, an inch from the side of my head and just sit there Yeah. And then just stare at me and just, like, and breathe on me. Like,   fuck. You know what? Just get down there. Just just fine. Go lay down there. And then by the end of the night, you're pushed off into a corner, like,  

[01:41:23] Unknown:

like, every night Every night. No, dude. My girl my girl ain't having it. She's she's just ain't fucking having it, number 1.   That's it's not it's not even an option for and he'll still try.   He will. He still tries.   You know? But yeah. Especially once it started getting cold was the reason that we freaking moved the couch in in the first place. It's because it started getting cold, and it was not not having   and he got into a very, very bad habit of examining the inside of a trash can.  

[01:41:58] Unknown:

What the fuck?  

[01:42:00] Unknown:

We're curious fella. Just all of a sudden didn't do it for the first, like, 3 years of his life.  

[01:42:06] Unknown:

You know? Well, it's not something that was allowed at our house.  

[01:42:10] Unknown:

Well, nor you know, it it's not like it was ever allowed. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:42:16] Unknown:

But yeah. Well, I'm just saying a lot of times when dogs do that, that was a   you know, that was something that they were initially taught. Yeah.   So this was a surprise attack.   He he never he he did not start out this way. Some new flavor combination,  

[01:42:31] Unknown:

some Sound like that. Something in the old factory senses just tingling. A couple of priors. So unless, you know, there's fucking   nothing in the trash can. He's not sleeping in the living room. He's just not   not.   And he has a tendency to ignore   which couch   is the one that he's, you know, allowed to be on.   He's   not very confusing for his tiny puppy brain.   No.  

[01:43:02] Unknown:

These guys here are mad because they destroyed the couch, the red couch that we had. Yeah. And so in that, we it's been replaced with a loveseat   because we obviously don't buy furniture here. We just get whatever's free by the time you need something. Right. And,   the,   so the loveseat, Brian sits on one spot. So there's only one spot as long as Brian's here in the, the well, there's always 2 dogs in the living room, so there's always one without a couch spot. And that dog will just sit there and walk around, stare at him. What   are you fuck?  

Have you sat on the   floor.   Yeah. I'm  

[01:43:46] Unknown:

amused.   Yep.   Clowns.  

[01:43:53] Unknown:

Yes.  

[01:43:55] allen marcus:

Do you put mittens on your kittens?   I don't know. I have a kitten who had a cold, and then we just,   like, kinda do the cough, sneeze thing, and just phlegm would fly all over.  

[01:44:06] Unknown:

I did get gum as some reindeer antlers today,   but no, man.  

[01:44:12] Unknown:

Pimples are so ridiculous with the way that they will enjoy getting dressed up.   Like,   oh my god. I've never seen any other dog group that enjoys being dressed up as much as pit bulls, and it and it can be really ridiculous stuff, and they will just be so proud of it.  

[01:44:32] allen marcus:

Yeah. No. You're not wrong. The pit that committed to the bed. The costume is part of it.  

[01:44:38] Unknown:

I have to replace his little dog jacket too. Yeah.  

[01:44:42] Unknown:

Like, I wrecked the Velcro on it. Did your Gympie ass find the, service the service dog website?   Oh, yeah. He's all set up. Yeah. Then get get one of them actual service vests. It makes it way easier, and they're nice vests.  

[01:44:57] Unknown:

Yeah.   Yeah.  

[01:45:00] Unknown:

Dude, you walk in with a dog that say with a vest that says service and you got the little ID? Ain't nobody pissing with you. Yeah. No. That's fair.  

[01:45:08] Unknown:

That's fair.  

[01:45:09] Unknown:

Like, we're in the registry and everything. We maintain Yeah. I know. So  

[01:45:14] Unknown:

so so am I. It's yeah. He has his little   QR code, whatever,  

[01:45:20] Unknown:

tag, and all that stuff. Feel free to argue with the fucking department, with the fucking, attorney general of the United States. Don't argue with me about it.  

[01:45:30] Unknown:

This takes you to, like, an ADA website or something like that   registry.  

[01:45:36] Unknown:

Right. To show that you're officially registered. But then if they wanna keep fighting, the next step is is the the fucking   the attorney general of the United States, which go ahead and fight with them about it. Yeah.  

[01:45:49] Unknown:

They make laws, not me. Right. I wouldn't mind owning this restaurant.  

[01:45:57] Unknown:

Yep.  

[01:46:01] allen marcus:

Yep. It was the topic of the onion buying a certain Twitter account. Is there been any update   as to the health and well-being of 1 Alex Jones?  

[01:46:13] Unknown:

It's back up for it's yeah. It has to go back up for auction. It got dismissed.   There was there was something funky in the initial paperwork. The   Alex's,   lawyers objected to. Judge agreed.   So it's going back on the table. So the   the new rumor   is that Elon is going to buy both   MSNBC   and InfoWars   and then throw   the InfoWars   crew   and other people that he likes   on MSNBC,   and go right out the last few years of cable.  

[01:46:58] Unknown:

What?  

[01:46:59] Unknown:

Well, m s so NBC   wants to get rid of MSNBC   because it's a toxic property that nobody likes.  

[01:47:08] allen marcus:

Was the MSN part of MSNBC   side? From far left liberal to  

[01:47:16] Unknown:

well, I'm not even sure what you would call Jones right conspiracy.   I   what would you label him exactly as? I don't know.  

[01:47:27] Unknown:

Donald Trump's butt dog.   Okay.   Fair.  

[01:47:32] Unknown:

Is he still a Trump a completely on Trump train?  

[01:47:37] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[01:47:39] Unknown:

Very interesting.   You know what?   Anybody that hasn't seen Steve's original show called Slow Newsday,   the   First time that I was ever on it with Steve, he asked me what my,   predictions   politically, which is not one of my big suits. You know, I don't have a lot to talk about politically, what my predictions of the future was. And I said and this was   pre 2020, the whole   9, pre all of this shit.   I said,   the   things that the far left are doing are so crazed and make so little sense.   I said   that I can't see them doing anything but trying to basically because to me, the entire political system is one unit.   And they will do whatever they can   to like, they knew that a Republican couldn't put in Obamacare.  

Mitt Romney was the first person that had it in. This wasn't created by Barack Obama. It was almost direct copied from,   Romney state,   system.   And then nationalized.   So there's always a a dynamic where Republicans are able to put in certain things in play and and Democrats are able to put certain things into play.   And I said, I the things that the far left is doing   make no sense.   I said, the only agenda that I could see is that they want a far right fascist   fascist regime   being laid out, the red carpet being laid out for it because the country and I and and,   the move toward orthodoxy   in the Christian community was something I used   as,   cited as an example.  

And this is years   years years ago.   And I said, this is what I see coming, and this is what I actively   fucking see happening   is people going throw on the jackboot,   shine it up, step on my throat, please. We don't want tranny   shoving their junk in front of little kids' faces.   And it's happening.  

[01:49:55] allen marcus:

It's all happening   as Alex Jones would say. It's all happening.   It's all happening at the same time,   and there's still   the need to fill out certain  

[01:50:07] Unknown:

categories. Like, that was obvious. Bush was his start,   was was going against Bush.   Like, how are you gonna be on the Trump train, bro?  

[01:50:18] Unknown:

Trump pretended to be against George Bush and talk shit about the Iraq war   and then proceeded to hire a bunch of   Poppy Bush   veterans   for his first administration.   This time around, they're a bunch of George w Bush   veterans that he's putting in the administration.   Very odd. Very, very odd. A bunch of theater kids  

[01:50:42] allen marcus:

who were vindicated when Wicked became the most popular film of all time.  

[01:50:47] Unknown:

Trust fund kids ruin everything. Sam Tripley is right about that, friends and neighbors.   He headed out of the park there.  

[01:50:56] allen marcus:

Is there a debate to be had there? Is there a trust fund kid who wants to Even if you hate each, Sam.  

[01:51:04] Unknown:

There's a guy that'll never come on into me. It's the horseshoe theory. Love love and hate are different ends of the horseshoe. He doesn't hate me, I don't think, but just he gets   I I freak him out too much.  

[01:51:17] allen marcus:

Yeah.   Do do some more. Continue. It's a good thing   to give that sort of, reaction, and you're freaking me out, man. Well,   more more more more.  

[01:51:39] Unknown:

Oh, dude. So,   alright.   I'll I'll show you in just a second. Do you are you guys familiar with   a   friend of the my my show there, champagne Joshy?   Is that Twitter account?  

[01:51:54] allen marcus:

Chetanya   Joshy.  

[01:51:58] Unknown:

Is that Joshy, your   producer?  

[01:52:02] Unknown:

No. No. No. No. That was a totally different fella. He's out there in Pennsylvania,   I believe.   He's   curated a number of very, very, very good threads over the last few years, writes for a couple of different outlets.   Anyway, he has a post up,   that's,   asking Grock.  

[01:52:29] allen marcus:

So stranger in a strange land reference.  

[01:52:32] Unknown:

What movie character am I most like?   And it says,   for him, he gets Tyler Durden. So I was like,   screw it.   You wanna see it? I did  

[01:52:47] Unknown:

see that on You you did you asked Brock what movie character you're most like? Yeah.   Based I don't know if I would get movies almost universally   when people, like,   fairly regularly when people see my, like, any talk I give,   at least half the interviews and things I've ever been on some at least 1 or 2 people call me Floki, and there's a little conversation in there how I'm   how I'm Flokey. I'm  

[01:53:15] Unknown:

like  

[01:53:18] Unknown:

Roddy Piper.   They live   with a dash of the dude. That is fantastic.   That is   fan   fucking fantastic.   I do you know what, Grock? I normally don't like these Mhmm. What kind of potato am I things? They're I find them stupid.   That is well done   AI thingy, Grock.   Well done, sir.  

[01:53:45] Unknown:

I I I must concur.   Gronk has been programmed to see more. I saw that, and I was like,   damn.  

[01:53:54] Unknown:

I came here   to kick ass and drink white   Russians, and I'm all out of milk.   No. It doesn't have the same bite, does it? Right.  

[01:54:08] Unknown:

I came here to do 2 things.   Kick ass and bowl.   And I don't see no pens nowhere.  

[01:54:21] allen marcus:

Came here to smoke a bowl and  

[01:54:23] Unknown:

can't remember the other thing. I have a room. Job. There's rules. And tie the room together.  

[01:54:34] Unknown:

I am the walrus.  

[01:54:36] allen marcus:

To wrap that rug around you into a burrito   and smoke it too?  

[01:54:43] Unknown:

The best part of this is is one of the things that I wanna do as the show grows.   And as we, start picking successfully   picking fights,   the,   I wanna make little   clip things, and the one I wanted Steve to make   was him   done up like the dude.   And because, yeah, Steve definitely has some   the dude   aura.  

[01:55:13] Unknown:

I I was the dude for Halloween last year, but I just had a bathrobe, so I looked more like trailer park Jesus than I did the dude.   Not exactly   what I was going for.  

[01:55:31] Unknown:

You know, I don't ever even do anything for the Floki or the Viking thing, like   and I'm not I never claimed to be a viking or anything like that. It's a whole different thing than what I'm talking about. But,   like,   even at other events, I was vending one time,   and I'm literally sitting there in a t shirt and jeans. And this guy comes by all done up in, like, a Scottish kilt, and it's like a leather kilt. And his whole thing's really nice. And I was like, dude, that thing I was like, shit's awesome. And he looks at me and goes, oh, your Viking look is awesome too, and I'm just wearing a t shirt and jeans sitting there. I'm like,  

[01:56:06] allen marcus:

thanks.  

[01:56:07] Unknown:

Yeah. But thanks.   I'm I'm I'm just   okay.  

[01:56:15] allen marcus:

Right.   The commitment to cosplay is  

[01:56:18] Unknown:

They got it. Yeah. Interesting.  

[01:56:22] Unknown:

And it's not like I ever wear anything different. I was probably wearing Carhartts, you know,   Looking straight out, like, just some old fucking carts that are fucking stained up and   although I think these are fresh stains. Do you buy them pre stained?  

[01:56:38] allen marcus:

No. No. I do pretty good at fucking them up. You You probably list that on grail or something, some Etsy or Depop   and charged to  

[01:56:46] Unknown:

In fact, when that fashion thing came out where, like, people were buying stained up tore up shit Mhmm. I just about went and sold them all my old stuff and tried to get new stuff.  

[01:56:59] allen marcus:

200¢?  

[01:57:01] Unknown:

Yeah.   Like, dude, mine's even got, like, 6 different kinds of shit on it. It's got, I I promise, at least 6.  

[01:57:10] allen marcus:

You'll pay extra if you don't wash it.  

[01:57:13] Unknown:

I'm pretty sure this is I'm pretty sure this is a axle grease,   you know, gear lube, which smells like asshole.   It's weird how it's weird how   it's for the rear end of your vehicle, and it smells like from it's out of rear end of yourself too. It's just, ugh.  

[01:57:33] allen marcus:

Do we have scratch and stuff stickers that we could sell on those merchandise?   We might be the worst smelling  

[01:57:43] Unknown:

show of all time. Nobody wants a Detroit True Track rear end scratch and sniff. That's probably fair.  

[01:57:52] Unknown:

That is probably fair.  

[01:57:56] allen marcus:

Hell, I don't know if anyone's afraid of picking fights with the trailer trash crew  

[01:58:01] Unknown:

or   not.   Well, there's the worst part is then you got guys like,   you know,   there are people that I think we could probably get in, but guys like Melanie and stuff. But   I   I have such a hard time with those types. Like, if you were so   alright. So for starts, if you're per if you're   a a person that truly believes that a dude could be a girl,   you're already so intellectually dishonest. I don't understand what the point to debating you is. Like, you're already so far out of reality that I can't,   like   so anything anytime you back them into a corner, it's literally like when my mom first became a pastor and anytime her and I were arguing,   it turned into   god said.  

But God   said, like,   show me that shit in the Bible, lady.  

[01:58:57] allen marcus:

Thus says the destiny on this stream, and I have the clip to to play it back to you. It's like encoding someone else.   Like, the lived experience is the most important thing. What is your own experience? And then from there, do some more research.   But to not have the lived experience,   and then try to defend a position   intellectually because you think your followers   are going to respond best to it. That's  

[01:59:24] Unknown:

See, we'll debate whether it's, whether,   the Detroit locker   or them sense of them ones with sensors in them are better or the true track.  

[01:59:35] allen marcus:

E a t r. The debate.  

[01:59:41] Unknown:

Inside that debate, whether   diff fluid smells like butthole or not, but nobody's gonna take the negative on that.  

[01:59:50] Unknown:

The Also, if, if somebody wants to see Ben's vision   of the, you know, Lebowski promo come to fruition   without me looking like trailer park Jesus, so much more   like like the dude,   you're more than welcome to to order me the sweater.   Oh.   Which is anywhere from, like,   40 to, like, a 100 and $60 if you want the actual Pendleton   freaking,   you know, the Pendleton   wool freaking,   like, not piece of shit, knock off, Timu sweater.   Yeah. Yeah. Like, it's an actual you know, it's not just costuming,  

[02:00:32] Unknown:

like, that kind of thing. Use it more than once. You'll get to enjoy it.   Also, if if Ricola   would kindly sponsor Marcus. Mhmm. You don't need to sponsor the whole show.   Like, there's  

[02:00:46] allen marcus:

other podcasters about the benefits of Ricola made with Swiss alpine herbs oral anesthetic.  

[02:00:53] Unknown:

You'll notice how keeps you talking longer and longer. Smooth. Marcus's voice always is. Where Steven mine cracks and we have promises because we don't eat the Ricolas.   You should get the smooth   voice from Marcus and the Ricolas.  

[02:01:08] allen marcus:

Oh, yeah. It's so good.   Keeps me in the mic for too long.   Looking at the clock,   running it out.   I don't know if Steve will hit the button at any moment now.  

[02:01:21] Unknown:

Oh, well,  

[02:01:23] Unknown:

we yeah. I didn't know where we actually gonna wrap or With that, we will try to find us a a fight with somebody. Mhmm.   I don't know who or where that's gonna be. We've been trying to pick some fights. Anybody that wants to help us pick fights, you can go ahead and feel free   and get somebody and tells people, you know, we're we're looking   to debate.  

[02:01:47] allen marcus:

If we show up on a Thursday night, don't be too surprised. After Christmas here,  

[02:01:53] Unknown:

and Yule for the heathens, Christmas for the Christians, if you   which is funny because I'm not even sure which Christians believe that. I know some do and some don't. I don't know.   But   after that time period, we're gonna   move the day.   So Steve's not getting heated on a Tuesday evening when everybody's gotta go to work,   the next morning.   Because we like heated Steve and want to give him that ability to bellow at people.   And we would all like the ability to bellow at people. I I've never seen Marcus Bellow at anybody, but we would like to give him the chance to,   take somebody around the Mulberry bush so many times that they don't know what their own name is till they just scream and throw monkey poo at him.  

So we wanna give people the opportunity to do this. So we'll keep trying to pick some fights, everybody else.   Obviously, in the occult circles, we'd like to get some.   So,   and then in, like, the red pill,   Steve obviously is   a a political expert.   So, again, I don't you know, we would like to get some liberals to debate also, but I just that one's a little harder because   if you're so a lot of those hard lefts are so horribly intellectually dishonest that,   there's no morality to what they're saying. And at that point in time, what's the point to debating? This is even like a lot of people liked debating destiny.   Well, then it turns out the dude's willing to lie about anything and do whatever it takes to get away with whatever he's doing.  

Well, of course.   And, eventually, that breaks down and you end up where he is now. So I don't really   again, it's like trying to have a debate with a little kid.   And and I know some people think that that's acceptable, but in my world, you just tell that kid what the fuck to do. Like, no. I'm not gonna listen to your stupid retarded story   the next half hour, kid.  

[02:03:54] allen marcus:

You'll pay whichever better microphone than you and a better computer setup and lower latency and better streaming capabilities.  

[02:04:02] Unknown:

Yeah. And some adult that just sits around playing video games and then is and is,   gets his pee pee touched. That's the same shit I was doing when I was fucking 14. I was actually at a normal job and did productive things, though, too. Like I I quit video games  

[02:04:17] Unknown:

in favor of getting my pee pee touched more.  

[02:04:21] allen marcus:

Exactly. About the video game award show with, Jeff, and I guess you guys don't wanna talk about that. So  

[02:04:28] Unknown:

Well, I still got a Nintendo 64.  

[02:04:33] Unknown:

We could have the video game debate. My last video gaming system was the original   16 bit Nintendo.   It was the last one that I own.  

[02:04:44] allen marcus:

The video games released today are not video games. That's the debate. Let's have it. Okay. They haven't released a video game   in so many years. All the games as a service games are not games.  

[02:04:58] Unknown:

The Oh, dude. You knew you knew when the video gamers Through military recruitment tools. That's true. Dude, hey. Did you see BMW's   doing that now?   They're installing fucking ongoing the task force. Movie where you, like, rent a center to your fucking organs,   And you, like, leased an organ. You remember that? Oh, yeah.   There was some movie I I don't I didn't actually ever watch the movie, but I remember seeing commercials about it. And I was like, oh, that's a disturbing idea where you, like, leased your organ. And if you didn't   pay your lease, they came and repossessed your heart or whatever organ you had,   put in.  

You see that the genetic opera with   the hill Repo, man. Thank you, billing.   Not Porsche, BMW. BMW   has now got subscription services where, like, you like that heated seat. It the one I saw was for heated seat. You like that heated seat in your car? You're paying a yearly subscription on that now. They've been,  

[02:06:02] Unknown:

they've been trying to test that for the last few years. We've reported on Tesla doing that.   Ford   trying to roll out stuff like that. They're also basically all moving   to,   mass producing   moving snitches   that   have sensor cameras everywhere that are constantly recording   along with all kinds of stuff that's monitoring   what you're doing   in the vehicle.   Yeah. It's yeah. I need that's a   there was a clip   in the AM wake up chat. I need to   convert it to there we go. Is this the sound bite?  

[02:06:48] allen marcus:

It may be. There we go. Heck, yeah. We do hang around in Telegram chat sometimes if you're looking   Alright. To find us. Let's see.  

[02:06:57] Unknown:

Like, all my hot clips are gonna be me yelling at cats.   Save us. Like, that was honestly dog themed show. Like, the the one clip. One clip Marcus has made. 1.   1. I'm not trying to make a thing out of it only being one one  

[02:07:17] allen marcus:

clip that Marcus is making. Other producers who have   a desire to make clips. Right? And they can make clips   as well and time stamps. Shout out to Tim Timoney   who's done,   excellent.  

[02:07:31] Unknown:

That one clip Marcus has made That I've shared, that I've made public. There are other clips. We decided not to edit out the me yelling at the cat because that's just real. Like, you know what? If you if you like the show because you didn't see me yelling at a cat, you are gonna be vastly surprised because there's no shows that go by where I don't yell at least one time at a cat   or probably a group of cats. Who knows?  

[02:07:54] allen marcus:

We want our guests to know that their words will not be edited to misrepresent them at any time.  

[02:08:04] Unknown:

There will be cat shenanigans. I will be yelling about  

[02:08:08] allen marcus:

it. Gosh. Darn it. Spookums.  

[02:08:10] Unknown:

Spookums.   Damn it. Spookums.  

[02:08:13] Unknown:

There we go.  

[02:08:18] allen marcus:

Looking forward to the, damn it, spookums remixes.  

[02:08:22] Unknown:

Damn it, spookums.  

[02:08:25] allen marcus:

Could add that to sandstorm to Rude   to the, blue song.  

[02:08:31] Unknown:

There we go.   Heck yeah.  

[02:08:34] Unknown:

The the thing that cracks most people up because they don't realize I'm not actually angry.   So, like, it so it cracks people up because I'll say some crazy shit and then just go right back to what I was saying. You know?   I'll even be talking like something like chemistry or something. It's and just sitting there talking and all of a sudden, will you fucking stop? And then just turn around and go right back to what I was saying. Like Do you damage Sometimes you have to randomly toss out an animal. That's just how live works. The Tourette's remix is gonna blow up on TikTok.   And me cussing and screaming does not mean that my mood has actually changed.  

Like, I'm from a farm. I I remember the day that I realized my kids would never I I could never live in an apartment   as my kids were just like I'm like, wow.   I don't think we could even live in a house with a house next door to us. Like Yeah.  

[02:09:29] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:09:31] allen marcus:

So to answer the question of if listening to KMMFDM   is good for releasing the   the the steam,   the the the pent  

[02:09:40] Unknown:

up anger and emotions. Listen to Do you know what I thought we were what when did we quit blaming things on Marilyn Manson?   Right.  

[02:09:49] allen marcus:

If you'd like to come on the show and have a discussion   with us, that'd be great.  

[02:09:54] Unknown:

I just feel like we went wrong somewhere when we quit blaming him.   Like, what the fuck? Or at least m and m.   Like, you can't get behind that. He's a douche.  

[02:10:06] allen marcus:

Like, Gilbert,  

[02:10:08] Unknown:

Smearla Manson. Like, why is it gotta be some babble shit? Like, who who gives a fuck about goth rock? Isn't that just for kids that are pretending like they cry a lot and put black  

[02:10:17] Unknown:

mascara on? Who cares about that? It's for it's for it's to make sure that fat people can fuck too.  

[02:10:24] allen marcus:

Are music genres   real?  

[02:10:27] Unknown:

Yeah. It's so it's so chubby girls can get a dick down when they're 17,   16.  

[02:10:33] allen marcus:

Ethan Suplay in the butterfly effect.  

[02:10:36] Unknown:

They're like, look. I'll put on fishnets.  

[02:10:41] Unknown:

Men and women. And that fishnets are going, come on, fuckers, help me.  

[02:10:49] Unknown:

End it now. I'm seeing a chunk.   I'm seeing a chunk of cellulite push between   the the squares.  

[02:10:58] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[02:11:00] Unknown:

Little chunks of cellulite are squishing between each one of the squares.  

[02:11:05] allen marcus:

Confection   box.  

[02:11:10] Unknown:

That's what I see piece for, Steve.   Good one.   Whoop whoop. Smash.  

[02:11:19] allen marcus:

It's 11:11   PM here   in central time.  

[02:11:24] Unknown:

My daughter still holds that one against me. She's she's less angry about it now that she's in her thirties.   But that time, I told ICP they couldn't come over to my house to get weak. Jeez. So,   she was so mad at me for years about that. I didn't even know she was a juggalo or what a juggalo was up until   after I told them no.   Like, no, I don't want you dumb shits over at my house. Should fathers encourage  

[02:11:55] allen marcus:

their daughters to learn to juggle?  

[02:11:59] Unknown:

I I I talked to her about that and said that and I talked to her about that and sent her a meme about juggalos don't even know how to juggle.   And she laughed, but she didn't ever.   Never learned to juggle. Tried to start juggling.   Maybe I think she's a juggle more, though. She's a man she's like a manager at a bank and has a house.   I I don't think she juggle those no more.  

[02:12:27] allen marcus:

Those tattoos are forever.  

[02:12:29] Unknown:

Alright, kids.   We'll see you   next week or 2 weeks?  

[02:12:35] Unknown:

Are we doing What is next Tuesday?  

[02:12:38] allen marcus:

Christmas eve. Got a calendar.  

[02:12:40] Unknown:

Christmas eve?  

[02:12:42] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:12:43] Unknown:

That's probably not the best day to go on air, fellas.  

[02:12:47] allen marcus:

Not without eggnog.  

[02:12:49] Unknown:

Well, we were after Christmas, we were planning on changing the date. What day did we decide on? Thursday. Thursday is at what time?   Same time. I thought we were doing an hour. No. I already do it 6 our time. I never do it an hour earlier. That way, Steve isn't,  

[02:13:07] Unknown:

yelling during people's sleepy hours, sleepy time. Get pipey a little bit.  

[02:13:12] Unknown:

Yeah.   So we're gonna switch up to Thursdays at   6,   Pacific,   7 Mountain, 8 Central,   9 on that other coast with all the, tiny states.  

[02:13:28] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

[02:13:29] Unknown:

In Florida?   Yeah.  

[02:13:32] Unknown:

Yeah. Anger and orange juice.  

[02:13:34] Unknown:

Yeah.   Yeah.  

[02:13:37] allen marcus:

So January 2,   2025,   8 PM CST.  

[02:13:41] Unknown:

So we so that would put it, the day after Christmas if we did that.  

[02:13:47] Unknown:

Yeah.   Yeah.  

[02:13:50] Unknown:

Which for us, the yule is a big deal here at my house. Well, it actually happens on the 24th   where the days quit getting shorter because I live off grid. And   when it doesn't the sun comes up at, like, 8 and goes away at 5, it's like the day is just all you wanna do is   I'm kinda like a bird. You kinda end up like a bird when you live off grid where once you shut the lights out or the outside lights go off, you're like  

[02:14:18] allen marcus:

Okay.   So we'll be back for Kwanzaa.  

[02:14:22] Unknown:

Sweet. Kwanzaa.   Yeah. Okay. I will get my   my Daishiki.  

[02:14:30] Unknown:

Okay. So we'll go for the 26th then   at 6 o'clock.  

[02:14:35] Unknown:

Sure.  

[02:14:36] Unknown:

Let's try and pick a fight.   Yeah. We would have failed if we were in fight club, failed miserably.   I know that, I know that all of us are trying, so I'm sorry, guys. We are actually trying. If you would have saw one of the shots that I gave a big debater,   you'd realize that we're going out and just   and then people are like,   like,  

[02:15:01] Unknown:

hey. That dude just socked you in the jaw. I'm like, yeah.   Anyway,   you're an asshole for pointing it out, and I'm gonna fight with you now.  

[02:15:10] Unknown:

That's literally in what is happening   across the board. We are trying in a bunch of places, and it's like,   what the fuck?   Like, it's like, yeah, you suck, dude. I I did it. Yeah, buddy. You over here. I'm fighting you. Mhmm.  

[02:15:30] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:15:31] Unknown:

I'm your huckleberry. Huckle huckleberry.  

[02:15:39] allen marcus:

Well, let's, hone each other on Kwanzaa.  

[02:15:42] Unknown:

Yep.   Alright.   Cool. Take care of everybody.   Yeah. Help us pick fights. Have a good night, y'all.   Let's   see.