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Sheriffs vs. Popes: A Debate on Respectability
Daylight Savings: Friend or Foe?
Local Governance and the Role of the Modern Sheriff
From Hay Bales to Time Zones: A Week in Review
Broadway Mishaps and Digital Confusion




In this episode, we delve into a variety of topics, starting with a light-hearted debate on whether one would prefer to be a sheriff or a pope, highlighting the perceived respectability and responsibilities of each role. We then transition into a discussion about the confusion surrounding daylight savings time and its impact on daily life, particularly for those who live by natural light cycles.

We also address a scheduling mishap with a guest, Nico, who had to reschedule due to a time zone misunderstanding. This leads to a humorous recounting of a personal mishap involving a hay bale, illustrating the unpredictable nature of farm life.

The conversation takes a turn towards societal issues, discussing the complexities of modern law enforcement roles, the impact of daylight savings on farmers, and the challenges of navigating time changes. We also touch on the cultural differences in humor and the importance of understanding context in jokes.

Later, we explore the concept of daylight savings further, debating its merits and drawbacks, and how it affects our natural rhythms and daily schedules. We also discuss the challenges of keeping track of time changes in a digital age where devices automatically adjust, sometimes leaving us disoriented.

In a lighter segment, we discuss the unexpected intersection of Broadway musicals and adult websites, highlighting a bizarre incident involving a misprinted URL on a toy box that led to a pornographic site. This sparks a conversation about marketing mishaps and the unintended consequences of such errors.

We wrap up with a discussion on the importance of local governance and the role of sheriffs, emphasizing the need for community involvement in electing officials who truly represent their constituents' values and needs.




https://www.mother.ly/news/georgia-mom-arrested-for-letting-her-son-walk-alone/


https://reason.com/2024/11/11/mom-jailed-for-letting-10-year-old-walk-alone-to-town/?comments=true#comments

https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2017/08/21/the-gentlepersons-guide-to-forum-spies/

(00:00:03) Sheriff vs. Pope: A Humorous Debate

(00:02:11) Scheduling Confusion and Personal Injuries

(00:05:21) Daylight Savings Debate

(00:10:20) Digital Payment Systems and Global Politics

(00:18:18) Debating Religion and Philosophy

(00:27:06) Musicals and Unexpected URLs

(00:39:08) Cold Calls and Scammers

(00:47:04) Guns, Bears, and Rural Life

(01:03:33) Debate Techniques and Strategies

(01:19:14) Child Endangerment Case Discussion

(01:36:37) Political Rhetoric and Election Reflections

(01:49:00) Wizard Wars and Community Dynamics

- Steve

- allen marcus

- Benjamin Balderson

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[00:00:03] Unknown:

Well, our our normal intro thingy. There we are. Are we all sheriffs now? We're all sheriffs now.  

[00:00:10] Unknown:

Would you rather be a sheriff or a pope?  

[00:00:16] Unknown:

You I think I think probably the sheriff because there's no requirement to diddle kids   for sheriff, whereas pope, it's kinda written into the contract.  

[00:00:30] Unknown:

Sheriff, I I I think is kind of a respectable   position depending on what county you live in, obviously.   Right.   So, I mean, a lot of your like, the Midwest, a lot of your smaller counties, the sheriff's,   elected   official.   And you get a lot of them smaller counties. He's just a good old boy and he's he's you   this them into the areas you see, guys getting driven home by the sheriff because they're drunk and their car and their car keys left at the bar. Shit like that. They're they're they're decent dudes. So I mean,   it's one of the few positions that I actually   at least occasionally   can respect.  



[00:01:12] Unknown:

So So what was the difference between being deputized and then just being, like, a lowercase s, sheriff?  

[00:01:25] Unknown:

I don't know. Honestly.  

[00:01:27] Unknown:

I really don't. Maybe maybe that's not even real   debate issue.  

[00:01:32] Unknown:

Right. I don't even understand why they all became sheriffs now, and it's not   there was one sheriff, and then everybody else was deputized by said sheriff.   So they were just under his authority   operating.   They they all all need to be called sheriff. I don't understand. Like, it's always this jump up. It's like calling the janitor or the   whatever the hell they call them now.  

[00:01:57] Unknown:

Custodial   engineer?   Yeah. Custodial engineering,  

[00:02:03] Unknown:

chemical admixture aid because, you know, you have to use the right chemicals on the right floors.  

[00:02:11] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. We should probably,   address that. We probably should. So, Nico had to reschedule.   He   when I sent him the original message,   he apparently read   7 PM Pacific Okay. At 7 AM   Pacific,   which would be noon where he is in Brazil. So he was like, bet. That's awesome. I'm for that.   Realized,   that it was midnight,   where he was gonna be, and he's got, like, a 8 month old baby.   And   so he he was like, it's cool.   Let's do it next week. I can make it at that time. I just gotta make sure that, you know, like, the wife and kid are over at her aunt's house, which is, like, a couple of blocks down the road.  

[00:03:08] Unknown:

So   Which,   think, Edward,   which I, normally,   would have been pretty disappointed with the scenario.   But,   the,   or just like an hour ago, maybe an hour and a half ago, I was out and got my feet tangled up and I was hauling hay and I had a whole ass bale on top of me and it's been raining here, and   we haven't cleaned the driveway fully yet. So it's just slicked all over with cow shit and whatnot, night shit on my bad elbow. And so I'm in a lot of pain right now. So and, and,   Nico is a pretty sharp fella   and and knows this shit, and I wanna be on top of my game. I don't wanna be sitting here fucking   concerning myself with the throb in my shoulder.  

And then that shoulder   pinned together. So I have anytime I hurry it like that, I'm like,   did I hurt it? Heard it? Like, yeah, you know, because anything that, like, I've got when Christy and I first met   and weirded her out, she gave me a massage.   And she freaked out because my muscles aren't even where they're supposed to be because this all shattered so badly. They had to pin everything together on this little, like,   screw that I got up on my collarbone, and so everything sitting kinda weird. So my left arm,   even under normal circumstances, like, there's a spot, like, right here   that it doesn't matter if it's a pound or a £100 or anything. I can't lift past that spot.  

And then if I get, like, 2 inches past it, it works again.  

[00:04:47] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

[00:04:53] Unknown:

So we need to advertise you as a bionic man. You're the dispenser of caustic wisdom slash the bionic  

[00:05:01] Unknown:

man. They did not. Hey. They, sir, I certainly not the $1,000,000 man. They're like, nah. Nah. Fuck the technology, but we'll screw you together in a few spots.   It is not better.   It works though. I can't I'm not complaining. It's pretty amazing that they put it together the way it did and it works. So As far as the Nikko timing thing, I was gonna blame Daylight Saving for that  

[00:05:27] Unknown:

because we had   now we have   even further confusion   because,   you know, globally,   everyone is using different times and different time zones. And now some countries   change and others don't, and counties within   states, within countries change or don't change.   And that's just a really confusing thing.   In terms   of keeping time,   we all could use the 24 hour, you   know, standard time,   stay stay on that system.   Is there a debate we wanna have right now about the benefits of not using daylight savings and just sticking to   one consistent   time globally?  



[00:06:15] Unknown:

Globally.  

[00:06:16] Unknown:

Yes.  

[00:06:18] Unknown:

I could argue for daylight savings time, though. It doesn't bother me. I don't understand.   Yeah. It's funny because I don't have an alarm clock. I never do. Mhmm. I I I literally   wake and go to sleep with the sun, but in daylight savings time, like,   now all of a sudden, I it seems like I have an extra hour at the store where before that, it was a real problem.   But I I get, like,   it was and so, like, for me, it actually is an advantage. And if you ever look into it, they state that that's   part of   why they did the daylight savings time thing   was to,   make it easier for farmers and people like that   to start matching   and then businesses   because otherwise it's hard to get in,   to the city in time because you wanna use up all the light hours you can outside working.  

You don't have very many in the winter.   Then you do dumb things like fall down with a fucking hay bales across your shoulders freaking that weighs damn near as much as you and that eat shit right into the mud. Brian's like, I thought you went straight to your face.   Like, no. I hit my elbow on the way down. The face probably would have been better.  

[00:07:37] Unknown:

Is that an effective having experienced daylight saving time? It was. It was very effective. Because it really kinda throws you off of a circadian rhythm,   and then the sleep schedule gets confused because you go to sleep   and then you gain or lose an hour.   And I'm almost frustrated that I don't have enough analog clocks around so they don't change their time   because every time telling device around me   automatically   changes   its time.   So I can't tell if the clock has been changed or not manually   because it's moved to an automatic thing.   So this is kind of my argument against having things done automatically   on my behalf   without me knowing if it changed or not because then I don't have   any sort of   thing that hasn't changed to judge to change   based off of.  

It's like going to the twilight zone. Because the sun will still rise every morning, but then I don't know, well,   is that an hour   4 or later? And then it just means I have to wear 2 or 3 different watches.  

[00:08:48] Unknown:

You start looking like a fucking hustler from the eighties?  

[00:08:53] Unknown:

Correct. So I gotta have a digital Casio. Seal. I have to have a a Rolex. I have to have a fake Rolex on the other arm.   Most people just look at their phones for time.   I look at my phone for time, and I've got 10 different clocks running.  

[00:09:16] Unknown:

You can put, like, a a fake Rolex   phone case on your phone.  

[00:09:22] Unknown:

It's a good idea.  

[00:09:24] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:09:25] Unknown:

I could put an Apple   phone case over an Android.  

[00:09:29] Unknown:

Mhmm.   Yeah.  

[00:09:31] Unknown:

Some of these countries have, like, a half hour difference too.   So it could be, like, 9 and a half hours ahead in Tehran.   I don't know what's the time in But the question would be  

[00:09:46] Unknown:

if you put the fake Rolex on the phone, would the phone now   keep time in a sweep instead of a tick?  

[00:09:54] Unknown:

Yes. Yes. It would. It would. There would be a gentle sweep.   Yeah.   And, yeah, you could,   you could never take your phone out in public because you would get jumped   and you get a rob almost immediately.  

[00:10:20] Unknown:

Oh my god. And,  

[00:10:23] Unknown:

they just,   connected some   digital network of of money   so they they can make payments more easily between Turan and Russia. Should we be concerned about that? Well, it's they're they're doing  

[00:10:40] Unknown:

the bricks version of SWIFT payment processing system  

[00:10:45] Unknown:

in our So they're just behind the times and finally catching up to the west. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.   Alright.  

[00:10:54] Unknown:

I mean, the, you know, the concerning thing there is that before too long, it's gonna be Oceania was always at war with Eurasia.  

[00:11:02] Unknown:

Dude, we're already at the fucking barn wall over here.  

[00:11:06] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:11:08] Unknown:

With definitions.   Although some of it,   the conspiracy world's totally on the barn wall.   Like,   I looked up pandemic in this old ass dictionary I have. Mhmm. It's like the biggest dictionary ever. It's like the library the school library dictionary. The biggest blackest dictionary  

[00:11:27] Unknown:

on the block?  

[00:11:28] Unknown:

No.   Is it black?  

[00:11:32] Unknown:

It's more like red brown.  

[00:11:34] Unknown:

Yeah. Like a burgundy dictionary.  

[00:11:36] Unknown:

Yep. Big old burgundy   dictionary.   That's correct.  

[00:11:43] Unknown:

Oh, is that like gold leafed Webster's? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. This one's nice.  

[00:11:49] Unknown:

Old fucker.  

[00:11:53] Unknown:

I'd like to have a debate about why there are no religions   based off of dictionaries.   We argue about, scriptural and fallacies and whatever. It's like, well, Webster's or But I I looked up pandemic.  

[00:12:07] Unknown:

Pandemic was literally something that just affects   a large area or a whole country.   So if everybody got the flu, the flu is technically a pandemic. Like like, the whole   that that's they didn't change the definition.   I read it. It's old as shit.  

[00:12:25] Unknown:

Deneen Rancourt,   called it the pandemic of the PCR. Mhmm.  

[00:12:35] Unknown:

Mhmm.   It's a good one.  

[00:12:37] Unknown:

That's probably as, like, much as we can say on YouTube. But I was also just thinking that. Yeah.  

[00:12:45] Unknown:

Is that Rand? It was a d r n d. Rand.  

[00:12:51] Unknown:

Like the Rand Corporation?  

[00:12:53] Unknown:

Yeah. Is that what you were saying? Randcorp?  

[00:12:57] Unknown:

Oh, no. No. No. Rancourt.   C Like, it's spelled Rancourt.   Yeah. It's spelled Dennis Rancourt with one n because he's French Canadian.   Denis.   Denis. Okay. Yeah. Wrong call.  

[00:13:12] Unknown:

Okay. Just like the director of Dune. On the go, man.   Yeah. Steve  

[00:13:20] Unknown:

and I   last night went over on,   EZ's channel. I didn't realize Steve did.   I went to bed.   I meant it when I left because I was on there for, like, 3 hours   banging it with them.   And at one point in time, I had a whole room full of crystals and banging it out with them, having a lot of fun.   The   the English guy that I kept calling Irish because English think Irish are, like, low level people. And beneath them, so I kept calling him Irish and then pretending, like, I didn't realize that he was English and just straight like, I meant it. And he got so mad, like, the 3rd when he's like, the one time he's like, that's 3 fucking times. And he's like, I'm like, oh god. I couldn't help it. I had to start laughing. I tried to hold my composure, but I'm like,  

[00:14:11] Unknown:

no. You can't say that.   No. Oh, fuck. Oh,   man.  

[00:14:18] Unknown:

Oh, man. That's so hard.  

[00:14:20] Unknown:

You know? Because, like, where I'm from,   Oli and Lena jokes are specifically based on   countries. So I because I'm a German because I'm from a German area,   Oli and Lena are Polish. So it's all pollock jokes.   And so, you know, it's basically like   doing that, but he just didn't realize, and he thought I meant it. It was fucking hilarious.  

[00:14:43] Unknown:

Where,   where my dad grew up in,   the upper peninsula of Michigan when he was a kid,   although Ollie and Lena jokes were Swedes.   Yep. Yep.   That's the Danes. The Danes and the Swedes. It was a heavily, like, Finnish area too.  

[00:15:01] Unknown:

Yep. Yep. Yeah.   Yeah. Like I said, the whole that's how you can tell where somebody's from is who did they what did they say only in Lena? What country are they from? And now you know which country that person's from. Mhmm.   And so and I already knew that English looked down on Irish, so I just kept pretending like I thought he was Irish.   It's fucking hilarious.  

[00:15:30] Unknown:

Yes.   The Speakeasy   channel   who hosts verbal combat.   And Steve also appeared later on that stream. So, Steve, how do you think you did on your first time appearance? They they granted you privileges as the first time guest.   And once other people were able to shut themselves up,   you were able to speak.   And what were you able to say?  

[00:15:58] Unknown:

Oh, I mean, you know, it's nothing that we don't talk about on the show pretty much every day. It's it's   always interesting to see people's reactions   to what what I believe, at least,   is   fairly easy to spot, which is, you know, the   creeping technocracy,   the, you know, financial rug pull, the central bank backed digital currency. That's not gonna   be issued as a CBDC   to us here in America. No. No. No. No. There's there's going to be individual bank issued or corporation issued tokens,   you know, stuff. This is just stuff that people already have,   and then it's going to get converted to   US dollar coin   or a central one central bank freaking   digital currency,   on the back end in processing   when they settle their own accounts.  

And so you won't use a CBDC,   but all of your money will get converted into it,   you know, every time you pay a bill or every time you buy something or every time you log in to your x account   with your   biometric verification   because that's the only method by which you can pay bills.   And that's where all of your everything takes place, which is why he called it the everything app   where he said, I know. Well, I have a great idea. This is   my idea. I came up with it. I'm an innovator.   Here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna copy   WeChat   and call it x.  

In the nation.  

[00:17:48] Unknown:

You brought up a few I can't believe you went in that hard.  

[00:17:53] Unknown:

I didn't, you know,   rattle some cage. I was polite. I was nice for to everybody but the Aussie.   It was just irritated them. No. I got him.   No.  

[00:18:06] Unknown:

It's like, is that the sound of a cow mooing?   No.  

[00:18:12] Unknown:

No.   No.  

[00:18:18] Unknown:

Nouns   clearly.   Oh,   no. Nar.  

[00:18:28] Unknown:

You fucking pirate? So the sacred cows you brought up   for slaughter that they were not ready to slaughter yet.   Of course,   Donald Trump   who just won, and they were celebrating   a victory.   And then you brought up Elon Musk,   and people still   want us think he's on our side. He's one of the guys.   And then put   on Trump and Musk? Well, then you bring up Peter Thiel, and they don't even wanna know who that guy is. Right. I just shared some pictures of happy Trump week? Trump and Thiel together.   Mhmm.  

[00:19:04] Unknown:

Man,   he forced dumped their fucking   Black Panther party.  

[00:19:11] Unknown:

I,   I got a copy of, Charlie Robbins, signed copy of Charlie Robinson's,   Octopus   of Global Control book   at the the gig we threw in Pueblo over the summer.   And Charlie did because it was at the event, Charlie writes   in the inscription,   Steve, thank you for inviting me to your Black Panther party.  

[00:19:40] Unknown:

Wakanda forever and ever and ever. Yeah. Those guys are having, like, happy Trump week or whatever the hell.   I'd already went in there and stomped around on the Christianity and hit him with the some philosophical,   impossible questions.   Like, the 4th time that I hit him with the if god is if your god is omnipotent   because they're they externalize   god, and that's how come this question is possible.   Because for for me, the all   everything is the all.   You can the all can't make something big enough for it not to live because everything is   internal.  

And so   it's not a it's not a feasible question, but it's when you externalize,   now if this god is all powerful, he should be able to make a boulder that he can't lift   or it can't lift. Well, if if it can't make that, it's not all powerful. And if it can make that, it's not all powerful.   And that's the problem with an externalized   god.  

[00:20:47] Unknown:

Well, then god solves a problem by sending   his seed into a woman to create his son   on earth.  

[00:21:00] Unknown:

And then marry her or nothing?  

[00:21:02] Unknown:

Were there parallels to the Hercules story there?   I don't know.   It would be interesting.   Well, it, you know, it would be interesting to engage with orthodox bros and protestant bros and Catholic bros and Lutheran bros all in the same room, and then just talk about the bible as if it's literature.   Just as from a literature perspective.  

[00:21:25] Unknown:

Dude,   on Friday,   your ass needs to go into verbal combat.   And the first thing you need to say when you get in there is ask them what their favorite Christian band is.  

[00:21:39] Unknown:

That's gonna be my first question.  

[00:21:42] Unknown:

And if they if they don't say striper, then you're allowed to mock them. Yeah.   No.  

[00:21:49] Unknown:

Dude, on every spiders, every guest we ever had on spiders, Marcus would find some way to ask them what their favorite Christian band was. You need to go in there and right out the gate, hit that shit.  

[00:22:00] Unknown:

Yeah.   I agree.  

[00:22:04] Unknown:

I do. Yeah. And then if they don't say Johann Sebastian Bach, what do we do?   Because clearly,   if the music isn't   organ music, if it's not orchestral,   then it's the devil's music.   So it's secular music, which means it's Satan's music.   Gotcha, guys. Gotcha.   Who's a real Christian now?  

[00:22:34] Unknown:

That's hilarious.  

[00:22:38] Unknown:

So in entering a debate in a room of Christian   bros, you know, Christian men,   it's it's difficult to debate who is the most Christian amongst us. Because the whole thing is this is supposed to be a bible study. We're supposed to unite under one book, under one god, this type of thing.   But then we can explore the differences between   the denominations   under Protestantism,   or you can say, well, it's Protestantism   versus   Lutheranism versus Catholicism.   Sure. We can have those debates for days and days, and there's Christian channels   that do that. Now the difference is when Ballerson enters the room and says,   I'm not a Christian.  

Do they know how to engage with someone   who   is not a Christian   but understands basic Christian ideas   without saying no.  

[00:23:32] Unknown:

It was an interesting couple of hours.   It was an interesting couple of hours. They,   but part of it is is that a lot of people just have a lot of misconceptions   about it. So then the questions that they're trying to use to hit me with are correct.   So,   like, the Hollywood versions of of Valhalla.   I in no way want to go to Valhalla. It sounds horrible.   I know dudes that should go there that love fighting every day. It's like the best thing that they could ever do. I don't mind arguing, but mostly I'm a farmer, and I like hanging out with animals. And I don't mind fighting. I was in the army for 6 years. I was a wrestler.   I I had my fights when I was young, but it's not something that, like, that's my favorite. You know, I'm not a UFC fighter who wants to go to the gym and fight dudes every day or something. That's   that's more that type of thing. And   so   Hollywood's made that into, like, some version of heaven that only the good ones go to. No. That's for the shock troops. I also don't wanna be in the UFC.  

Like, I would not or be a boxer. Like, I remember when I was   25,   I was I was wiring up this gym and this guy was giving boxing lessons in the gym while we were wiring it.   And I was making, like, $28   an hour, and I was only, like, 25.   And freaking,   this guy starts giving me a hard time in trying to get me to go   go box, and I'm watching these guys. I was like, you know what? It's only, like, 9:30 in the morning, and I seen that dude just get hit in his head, like, 23 times already. That's too fucking early for that shit.  

[00:25:13] Unknown:

That's that's that's fair. That's fair.   What are you doing, dog?  

[00:25:25] Unknown:

Dude, the weird them weird noises that they make.  

[00:25:30] Unknown:

Man,   goofball.  

[00:25:37] Unknown:

I took,   Issa stayed with ended up staying with my daughter. At first, my daughter was weird now because you know how Issa has that,   right, sucking in. Like, it almost sounds like a growl, but it's not. It's like her happy noise where she's, like, sucking in really hard or something.   Mhmm. And then she figured it out, and then she thought that was, like, the cutest thing ever. She was weird and out about it. She's like,   it's my when I was, in South Dakota, which   we were staying at this place, Steve.   Super cool. It was the inspiration. The castle that we stayed at, we stayed at this little property that had a castle on it, and the castle is the inspiration for the wizard of Oz.  

[00:26:18] Unknown:

Alright.  

[00:26:19] Unknown:

Yeah.   Cool. I knew the dude was from Aberdeen and that we have, like, a whole,   little play land thing that's dedicated to it with the yellow brick road and all that, but I didn't know that,   like, you know, things like that. Like, this castle was the inspiration for it, you know, the castle in there.   And they had stories that weren't normally published,   that weren't widely published or anything of his and whatnot because the dude hung out there regularly.   It's pretty cool.  

[00:26:49] Unknown:

Heck, yeah.  

[00:26:51] Unknown:

L Frank  

[00:26:52] Unknown:

Bohm.   Bob. Yep.   Yeah. It was only $10 a night to camp there. Super cool place.  

[00:27:06] Unknown:

So then that gets into the next topic I'd like to bring up from the wizard of Oz theme.   There's something called wicked.   Are you gentlemen familiar with the Broadway musical   hit   wicked?  

[00:27:22] Unknown:

I am aware that it exists.   That's that's about the extent of it, though. You know, the story of it. Steve,   I had it. You know what? It's from the,   witch's point of view. Right?  

[00:27:35] Unknown:

Yes. The the witches   are somehow roommates, and they sing songs together.  

[00:27:42] Unknown:

I know everybody's gonna be surprised, but my my Broadway musical knowledge is somewhat lacking. Yeah. Like I said,  

[00:27:48] Unknown:

I I know it exists. That's that's about the extent of it. Sure. The history of Broadway after Phantom of the Opera and Cats, I don't know. I don't know.  

[00:28:02] Unknown:

I'm aware of what Phantom of the Opera and Cats are.  

[00:28:05] Unknown:

Mhmm. I'm  

[00:28:07] Unknown:

couldn't tell you what the   plot of either thing is. Is the Phantom of the Opera, he's got, like, the half mask thingy?  

[00:28:15] Unknown:

Right. So Phantom of the Opera has been brought to the silver screen. It's it's been turned into multiple films.   The other movie we mentioned,   I think Rent has been a movie. They they turn Broadway musicals into   movies at some point. So Wicked being the recent film   to get   the the recent Broadway   production to be turned into a film   starring, I think, Ariana Grande, some some pop star.   So then there's merchandise   tie in with this Barbie, I think Barbie dolls from Mattel   have been given the wicked treatment.   And on the box,   on the bottom by the barcode on the back of it, it's printed wicked.com.  

And realizing   that's a URL and you can type that into a web browser and it'll bring you to a website, well, what do you think you'd expect to see when you go to Oh, is this the thing where I went to a porn thing?   Do you expect wicked.com  

[00:29:14] Unknown:

to be a pornographic website? I I didn't realize all these things you just said about the musical and all that. I just saw that Barbie put out something that took it to a porn site. And when they typed in the URL on it, it took it to a porn site.   Like,   oh my god. Okay. So that's the whole damn story behind that. Holy smoke. And you know what? Never in our house once do Brian and I look at each other and go,   you know, dude,   let's listen to it. Let's watch a musical.  

[00:29:43] Unknown:

Right. No. That's fair. One time happened. I and I and I'm gonna just guess, but I suppose you guys don't talk off air and say, hey. Do you got any new porn website   suggestions?   Never warned you. Have you been to wicked.com?   No. Is there is there another URL I could type into my computer browser to find   pornography?  

[00:30:06] Unknown:

I'm aware of what Pornhub is,   like, because everybody talks about it and whatnot. OnlyFans.   Yeah. I I doesn't,   rabbi own it? Oh, yeah.   Yeah.   But other than older than I'm aware of what I what it is. Although I somehow   I, you know, like because it's not something that I talk about really ever, so I forget sometimes when I'm not trying to have a conversation about it, and I'll kind of forget.  

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I don't know. So then the question is with this metallic Oh, life's life's life's life's life. Wicked   doll,   is there a recall,  

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or is this, like, some misprint, or was it intentional? Right. Because  

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or was it intentional?  

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Right.  

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Because that's a heck of a way to get free advertisements for a product that still needs to be canceled.   Is Disney involved?  

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I mean, obviously, people are gonna try and snatch these up because they're gonna because I saw that they were doing a recall. People are gonna snatch them up for collective. Snatch them up like a limited edition Stanley Cup? Like, yes. Little kids stuff with porn. It's collectible.   It's like the Disney VHS of the Yeah. The little mermaid with the with the dicks on it. Yeah. The polished penis statues on the castle under the sun. Yeah. And then we're not spires. My ex wife has her dad has that VHS   unopened.  

He's all proud of it. I'm like, yay. You got a little kid's movie. Your dicks on it.   So proud.   Like   Hooray.   Well, yeah, that does fly under a pride banner these days. No. He's not he's not like that. Well, again I don't like you at all. I don't like him at all, but he's not like that. That's the redefinition  

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of words. Pride used to be a Catholic deadly sin, and now it's   a rainbow colored celebration.  

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As a heathen?   If you don't have pride, you got a problem.   You must be a worthless individual. Why are you not proud of yourself? If you aren't, you should start doing some shit that makes you that way.   Yeah.  

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That's funny.  

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Read that for our client.  

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I said follow a URL on the box to the musical. What's the musical title?  

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Seven brides for 7 brothers.  

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Brilliant.   Brilliant. Oh, and by the way, thanks to, space ranger Jake last week who threw,   Super Ray onto the show. I didn't see that until after the fact. Thank you, man.  

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Appreciate   the help, the support.  

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Yeah.   No. I think I told you guys Jake's hella cool. I had met that dude in real life when we went out to Colorado. He picked me and my girl up from the airport.  

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Hell, yeah.   Hell, yeah.  

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And we smoked, like, I don't know, dude,   3 or 4 joints on the way from DIA to Colorado Springs to his,   girl's,   apartment complex,   where she then lent us her car   for while we were in Colorado.   So we had,   like, a nice,   low key,   unassuming   Colorado plates,   you know,   vehicle for the, like, 4 days that we were there.  

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Local plates helped quite a bit.  

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Yeah. The first, Flattoberfest   that I spoke at, Jason Lingren in Rose   from Crow 777   Levy Burrow their, van. We took a train to,   Louisiana   and then borrowed their van. So and we were tooling around with California plates, getting pulled over every cop that we passed by.  

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Mhmm.  

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Actually, my truck now doesn't get bothered. We didn't get bothered once and this whole and we drove the whole damn country, the whole damn country. Like, we literally   went from   the set from where we live to the set bottom of California   all the way across   to and then all the way back up and across through South Dakota. We didn't quite go into North Dakota,   but   we went to Minnesota the whole nine up to where Marcus lives, dropped him off,   then came clear back down, got stuck in Wyoming.   But,   my truck now doesn't get bothered, but every other time I get pulled over for having California plates on every trip, usually numerous times.   But my my big ass f 350 with the work box and everything, people are just like,   nope.  

Leave that one alone.  

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Looks like you're working. They don't wanna interrupt you. Yep.  

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Yep. That is how that works out. People don't really like bothering workers.  

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Good good point about the notifications.  

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'Sup, Stella?  

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That's a bummer.  

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Well, I'm I was hoping that the, these guys wouldn't have picked up on Steve or I yet   or Marcus.  

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Well, you know, we are constantly,  

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in the mode.   I thought, you know, and we've been pretty, decent about not saying certain things.  

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Trying to trying to fly under the the radar a little bit.   Yeah. We've all been involved with far larger projects than our humble   170   subscriber YouTube channel that we are currently streaming to.   Mhmm.   Although I give it away. If people go to my website   I know. They can kinda click around there.   That's another thing we could talk about is, you know, scammers,   cold callers.   If people are   contacting me out of the cold, out of the nowhere,   I don't know who they are, and I tell them to email me,   and they're contacting me in a DM somewhere else, a direct message or private message somewhere else, I just tell them to email me. And I said, well, I don't have your email address. Well, how do you not know   me and not know   that I have a website and not know that I have an email address   on my website?  

Is that an admission to not knowing me at all?  

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Yeah.  

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I mean, you know, kinda. Yeah.  

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And Balderson got an email   from Elona.  

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What's the name of that person? Some something that said that they wrote,   and I would just I assume this is some AI thing, wrote a book based off of my   off of my shows.  

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I'm like Your YouTube content.  

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My YouTube content? I'm like   and is that just my you know, I didn't ever talk to him, but I'm like, is that just mine or one of the 1,000 other shows that I've been on   and speaking events and whatnot?   Like, that's a lot of information.  

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But if it was so that email  

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through my   because I didn't like it.  

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The email didn't state any specific details about anything   about you.   No. It was a template form email sent to everybody   with a YouTube email address and a YouTube account.  

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Yeah. The only thing they did was go through my headline or whatever. Yep. This is very, very common.  

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Being an owner operator of a website for over 30 years now,   having the admin   at   allenmarcus.com   email address,   Everyone who has a website with a URL   has an email address, admin at that URL.   So people just send email to that. They find the website, and they send the email to the admin at that website.   So all the email in the [email protected]   email folder is assumed to   be spam.   And if you give your email   address out publicly   and it gets put on a list, people collect that, then they like to sell their newsletter   email accounts   to say I've got, you know, 10,000   emails. You can send your emails to   my following, and they'll sell that.  

But it's all cold calling. So now in the age of AI   cold calling tech bros,   they may be from India. Who knows? They could be from any part of the world.   They don't care. They don't reveal where they're at, but they will cold call you.   So having   a YouTube channel,   one example of that email would be something like   your thumbnail   art sucks.   Let our agency improve   your click through rates   by improving your video descriptions   and thumbnails.   But they don't know who you are,   so they throw out as many lines to see who bites,   and they need warm bodies.  

If you prove to them that you're alive by responding to the message of the email,   now they forward that on to the next person who's   in charge of talking to   the fish on the hook   so they can start talking to you.   It is kind of a phishing scheme,   but really it's just   throwing out communication channels,   seeing who responds and picks up. It's the the auto caller, the robo dialers   where people will sit at home in their home office   with their headset on,   and then their phone rings,   ring, ring, you pick it up, and then it's connected you to somebody else already. So as a call center employee working from home,   you have your computer,   you have your phone,   It rings. You pick it up. You say hello, and then you begin talking to a customer that you don't know anything about,   but you might have a little script   that you start reading as if you were the one to answer the phone from a call center.  

No. Get away from my food. So the difference being people don't answer their phones now,   so a lot of that's moved to emails.   And earlier, I saw   a cat in the background.   So a kitten on a cabinet.  

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Do do it? Oh, yeah.  

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You get. Not quite an elf on the shelf.  

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No. In case anybody   get. In case anybody's forgotten,   we're giving away free kittens.   It's an excellent deal. Take 1 kitten, get 2 free.  

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Free Cuddles comes with every kitten. They're all very nice kittens.  

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They're all very friendly. Look. She's very cuddly.   They are none of them are they're all very humanized.  

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Socialized,   humanized,   free range kittens.  

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They're very free range. They all they're good mousers.  

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That's funny. I'm here. I'm just not gonna eat on camera.  

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They also they also,   I don't give a shit. My wife has a magical talent to get have my of having supper ready right when I get on camera, so I don't give a shit.   Whatever.  

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Casual dining.   When you enter a Speakeasy, you expect it to be easygoing   and casual.  

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If it was like a full on,   like, you know, like, when we had,   GLO or when I debated Will,   you know, then I'm obviously gonna try and be as professional as possible. But, like, if we're doing this, we don't give a shit.  

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No. You just can't even have my food from that side either. Don't try coming over this way. Well, that could be a good debate topic too as soon as they expect you to respond. Just take a big bite of a sandwich and start showing it.  

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Oh, shit.  

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The dastardly debate,   finagling and   bobbing and weaving and avoiding the question.  

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No. I'd rather have a good date faith,   debate.   But a lot of what I said to those guys was so new to them, they weren't able to they had to process the base of what's getting said to even,   get to a question.   So  

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Yeah.  

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To recognize   that you're in a paradigm and someone is pointing out the barriers, the limits, the walls, the ceilings, and the floor of the paradigm that you're sitting in.   And then saying, well, there's the door, open the door, walk through the door, and discover that you're outside of your paradigm right now. And it might be frightening,   but it's okay.   There are other places to explore in your own mind. It's a safe thing to do.  

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Well, glow is the first and and   he's a pretty nice guy.   Definitely different. Definitely different. I don't disagree.   But   we wanna have a certain position,   juxtaposition   from the red pill.   And that was the first, and he generously came on, and he's come on and talked to us a few times.   And the thing with debate is   you've gotta have people that have a different opinion that you get along with still   that you can come in. And   how do you   really   fully define where you stand without something else to to   measure yourself against?   And so,   where a lot of people would look at me   and could parallel me next to red pill.  

Well, once you then you put next to it, and we'll get some other red pill guys because he certainly doesn't represent the only red pill   ideas.   But then you start seeing where I'm not obviously on that team, and there's definite distinct differences in the way that I see things   and then the way that pans out in my inner relationships with people.   But you can't do that once again without a measuring stick to measure against.  

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Yeah. We we don't, like,   we don't necessarily   get,   accused of being a   a red pill show,   but we have a lot of the same criticisms.   Well, sexist, racist, misogynist,   blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Everything bad. It's all bad. Like, all you know?   None of it's true, but,  

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well, most of it's not true. It is hilarious how, like, especially at my house, they're like, I get   those same things leveled, but then you and then it's like you look at my house, and I'm this white guy that and there's Brian, and then there's Brian. We just and then even Steve when he lived here and all these big mountain ass looking dudes with beards, and I got a bald head and all these white pit bulls. And they're like, yeah. You're not at all like that. Right? But   hey. No. I'm not.   Looks like a duck.  

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That's funny. It's like the outward appearance thing.  

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Mhmm.  

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That's probably why you can recognize in a group of people who is more missionaries.   They have a uniform.   And someone knocks at your door and they're wearing a brown outfit, and they carry a package,   you kinda just think that's probably   a guy from UPS.   Is there a standard republican   outfit?  

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There's a couple of them. There's a couple of them. One of them is, you know,   a no nonsense   suit and tie. One of them is.   Mhmm.   You know, there's also, like,   khakis and a golf shirt,   polo shirt kinda thing.   Sure. Generally. Generally.  

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Target employee uniform.  

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Jorts   and,   a   American flag tank top.   Yeah.  

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It's like Maybe I saw you dress if you're going to a rally.  

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I would go jorts in the tank top for sure.  

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Yeah.   Almost all the time, I'm in a usually a Carhartt hoodie.   90% of the time, it's a rain defender hoodie, so it's slightly   water   resistant   because I live in an area where it's in all winter, it rains and pisses all of all it's not like   even when it's not a full rain, it's kinda you're getting pissed on regularly. So Mhmm.   Where I wear wear all the time.  

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You don't.  

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I fell face first in the shed earlier, and my Carhartt hoodies all full of I'm actually  

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that's not fun.  

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No. So I got a different one on. One that I usually wear in the summer.   Way lighter, and it's not water resistant.  

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It just started raining here   today.  

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No kidding.   Mhmm.   Oh, man. We've been getting hammered for weeks. It's been it started way early this year, and, like, my driveway is already just a mess. Like I said, the worst part about this story,   I just started cleaning it yesterday   because in the because every winter, we have to go and scrape all the cow crap and everything off the driveway and get it back down to driveway or else it's just like a damn   Mhmm.   Disgusting   ice rink down there or something of slickery  

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of poop.  

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So I've made this pile, and   my feet got caught up. And then,   the dam   I turned and I go right face first right into this pile. I'm like, oh my god.   You kidding me?   I mean, it probably saved me because I had a hay bale, you know, the giant 3 string hay bale across my back and Mhmm.   Dry give me, like, a pile driver.   Great.  

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Right.  

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Snapped your shoulder. There used to be there used to be a class of gentlemen who was so well versed   in debate and philosophy that they would intentionally challenge themselves   to say, in this debate, we must have a rhyming scheme to everything   we say. So everything we have to say rhymes. So that would be like slickery,   dickery,   poo,   what are you gonna do?   But that sounds more   mumblecore rap.   You have to be more eloquent  

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in in the language used. But now And I'm not eloquent. It ended up sounding like doctor Seuss.   Like, nobody wants to debate doctor Seuss.  

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Right. So so Steve's talking to the Speakeasy guys, and I think they got caught up on the word panopticon,   and they didn't know if that was a real word or not or if that was some kind of Japanese robot.  

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I think they thought it was Japanese robot.  

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Like, that sounds that sounds like heintai   that Japanese   jack off stuff.  

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Honda.   Honda?  

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Honda. Yeah.   Sounds like that Streetfighter game. Where the where the weirdos jack off to Japanese cartoon.  

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Yeah. It it's it's difficult to pierce the paradigm   and then let people know it's safe to leave the bubble and the echo chamber   and explore other   communities   that have their own weird ideas.  

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Spooky here helped me debate one night. Mhmm. I would say somebody in spooky was lighting them up.   Weren't you spooky?  

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In terms of the election cycle and the occult element of 2016   and Keck in Kekistan   and people on   different sides using   magic and ritual and these occult ideas to further   certain candidates.   There was now a little bit of talk that I was reading about   in terms of what did that happen in 2020?   And was the pushback   and the   failure   of one side of one color to gain any traction   was that fault because there were witches   hexing the moon   and basically that position of female   leftist,   ideology,   trying to hex and curse   the the bros who were at certain tiki torch rallies, this type of was a complete blowback that caused them to be a complete failure. I don't know if there's   more to be discussed in that topic, but the idea of using   magic   propaganda and ritual and things to then   completely lose   an election and surprise absolutely everybody   that you lost it.  



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I I, you know,   I don't believe in the election system. I don't believe a vote's countering, but I do believe that this followed the general general sentiment of the country. I think most people are tired of those loud crazy bitches.   They're just tired of it. Like,   and everybody tried. And the thing is is they've been holding people emotionally hostage, and people are just now figuring it out. Like, because anytime   and we all know how they are. You could be sitting in a group and nobody else can talk about what they think, but these people can openly say some of the shittiest things. And then if you say anything counter to it, they throw a big giant temper tantrum.   You know,   and and fucking Australians.  

Oh, Megan, they throw a giant temper tantrum and then point at you and people are now just now figuring out that it's okay to look at the one throwing the temper tantrum and go,   you have a problem.   You're the problem.   Learn some emotional control.  

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Yeah.   Seed the floor. Get off your soapbox.  

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Put in a pacifier in your mouth. Yeah, if you're gonna sit there and preach on about your Trump Derangement System   Syndrome, don't   when somebody else says something that they believe, don't you don't get to go,   what are you attacking   me?   Like and we're all fucking tired of it. Everybody is. We all we all despise that shit. We all need you to fucking grow the fuck up.   And then and then running around after everybody finally as a country, basically, puts out a mandate that says they're tired of it.   Rather than, hey, stepping back and take a moment of self reflection,   then play screaming at everybody how they're misogynist and racist and whatnot, that's definitely the course to take to make it better.  



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I identified the word mandate as being gender specific. Would you like to change the word and retry your argument again? Person date. There was a nationwide person date.  

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Sorry if I, you know,   offended anyone earlier.  

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Again,   fuck. Personhood, man.  

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I  

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I think there's a half a pen already.  

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Platforming,   deplatforming,   and personhood and deep personhooding.   Mhmm. It's like, say it louder for those in the back.   All of these sort of   things that were attempted and seemed to fail.   I don't know if is there a little huddle happening? Like,   in a a bookstore somewhere, they're huddling, and they're saying, well, you know, we we tried some things. We tried knitting colored hats. We tried   screeching. We tried not having sex with anybody, including ourselves.   That didn't work. We tried having more that didn't work.   What are we gonna do now?  

We tried doing everything but looking at ourselves in the mirror   and having a good   sit down talk with ourselves to say, you know what?   These are our talents. These are our abilities. These are the places we lack.   We need some more wisdom.   Now what are we gonna do?   How are we gonna play along with our community   and the people around us? And everybody else who's in the majority,   when you realize you were the squeaky wheel and no one was giving you the oil,   and they just replaced you because you were a not functioning wheel.  

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Mhmm.   Yeah. Eventually, everybody's tired of that squeaky wheel. They're tired of it. It's, the   Yep.   Oh, wow. The UK is arresting people. And then they and then the other For, like, 3 years now. Yeah. And then the other thing is is we also get to watch the crazy crap   that's happening over there. We're, like,   like,   women native to that country,   are getting great.   Have to say can't say the regular word because it's Right. So what is kids, you know? They're using they're getting great and things like that, and   we're seeing the total degradation of their society and get in the takeover.  

The women here are like, no. No. We're we're good on that. We we don't really want that.  

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Yep.   Yeah. No.   The same   the same time that,   Donald Trump and Bill Barr   launched the precrime division in the Department of Justice,   the,   UK   started locking people up over social media posts.   And there have been over 3,000   people   that have either been ticketed or   jailed   over,   social media posts in the UK over the last, like, three and a half, four  

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years. Well, I mean, we we we we, instead of going that route,   started   using   government resources that are supposed to be   for spies and things like that and use them on people that wanted to speak out at PTA meetings about things happening to their children in the schools.   Right? So, I mean, you know,   okay.  

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Yeah. That's true.  

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No. It's it the this is,   a silly country   for lots and lots of reasons.  

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I it's just all these countries are too big.   That's just, that's just the end of the story.   I mean,   you can't you can't   homogenize   this large of an area.   Like, just in California   in and of itself,   everything north of Sacramento is is one entire different people   than everything Sacramento and South. Like, all the crazy things that everybody hears about in in California.   Like, you look at the voting patterns.   Everything up here is   is red as hell. It's all super republican.   But does that matter when 80 when literally 80 of the votes for the state come from Sacramento   South and only 6   are for up for up north.  

It don't matter at all. It's it's drowned out. So   and when they make laws, like, they made a law where   we have to pay more car insurance, and it keeps their prices lower   because we drive around further and   have to go further into town and whatnot. And so they literally upped our rates up here in order to keep the people's rates lower down there, and we can't outvote them on these things.   Like,   it it it's ridiculous.   And I've even talked about, like, even the the gun rights.   I do understand where   somebody in   LA, when they talk about the only reason you would have this gun is just to,   harm another human, things like that,   You you know, they can't possibly imagine a scenario   where just going out to turn off my power,   all of a sudden there's a bear right there. And the bear is not necessarily happy about this. Like and and guess what? I understand that you think that I that, oh, yeah. If you're hunting, you should be able to to,   take down a deer with one shot. Well, what about a bear in the middle of the night that's rampaging around and angry that you just interrupted it? What about then? Would you like to be able to maybe have more than one shell in there? Would you like to be able to just pull that trigger and just keep them shells coming out until until this stops happening?  

I bet you would,   but you're   Give the bear honey.  

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Feed the bear. It's a hungry bear.  

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Right? Yeah. The bear that the bear has actually not been aggressive to us. You see the bro a bag of apples out with you if you didn't  

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want the bay   to get all angry.  

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Yeah.  

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Move off the land. You're on the bear's property.   You gotta move. You're on the wrong sir. You gotta go you gotta go in nature and you think you can just put up a a house and a farm and a garden anywhere you want,   go live in a city, man. That's where humans live.  

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Actually, the bear doesn't even bother us, to be honest. Like, the goat the animals don't even alert at the damn bear anymore. The one night that I caught it, the goats were out there doing goats, when they're pissed off at each other, they do this kind of shit talking thing where they go.   Yeah. And I and I was hearing that outside.   So I just thought the goats were just talking shit at each other. And then I go outside to shut the power off and there's a freaking bear. I'm like,  

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oh,  

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go away.   Alright.   You know? But, also, we have mountain lions and and everything else, and not all bears are as as apparently benign as this bear is. He did steal the dog food out of the back of the suburban.  

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Yeah. They'll do that.  

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Brian left a bag in the back of the suburban and then left the door open, and then he crawled in there and helped himself and took it.  

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Alright. So now let's put up a vote. Changing the name of the stream to benign   bears belligerently   or belligerently.   Since we can't seem to find anybody to enter our paradigm   to shift it radically.   We're harmless old guys.  

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Yes.  

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I mean, look.   The if you're in LA,   you should probably   have a handgun or 2 on you at all times.  

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Everybody else does.  

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Right. But I understand where to them having an AR is kinda wild.   Like,   you know, like, I get that, and I'm not even trying to fight with you about it. I'm saying you make laws for you, and you be your own place, and we'll make laws for us and be our own place because your life is different than ours.   I get what you guys are saying.   If somebody's carrying around an AR in the middle of LA, that's that's pretty wild.   Like,  

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you know? When you're playing Grand Theft Auto online and you get an AR 15 and you go and slaughter all the other humans in the game that you're playing against, the whole purpose of that game is to kill everybody else.   But when you get a real life gun,   you're not shooting at other human beings.   You're not going on rampages and rage kills.  

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But to be walking around with a large rifle out in the mountains   in the woods, that's not that weird.   Like, that doesn't necessarily make you think this dude's doing anything wild. Like, regularly, again, if the mount you know, because the bears and the mountain lions kinda they have large ranges, so they'll hang out in your area for a little bit, and then they'll leave. So when they're in your area, everybody walks around with 1 because you don't wanna walk around the corner and there's a mountain lion and who knows and how how angry it's gonna be about this.   So you carry a boomstick with you? Yes. You carry a boomstick just in case.  



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I've seen more bears in urban environments than I have in the wilderness.  

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Okay. Is this a joke or So my my outlier  

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instance here is my entire argument   of my experience.  

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I mean, I've I've seen it happen. Like, I lived outside I lived in Longmont, Colorado for a while in Greeley. And in Boulder kinda regularly, bears will decide to walk into the city and just, like,   check shit out for a while.  

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Yep. Deer, bear, turkey.   Yeah. Hunting season.  

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The heavy metal station, and I know Steve knows who I'm talking about, KBPI,   the heavy metal station out there.   They had their,   intern   dress up in a bear outfit and cover himself in steaks and drizzle them in honey, and then made him drive around with a lawnmower trying to get the bear to pied piper follow him and leave the city.   It was the dumbest shit.   Like, what are you doing?   Poor kid.  

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That's good stuff, though. It is. That's good stuff.   Yes.  

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Back when there were 8 radio stations to listen to?  

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Yeah. He is an opportunistic   bear. He has just taken the free food. He digs in our trash and took the dog food out of the back of my truck. And then   every time, though, as soon as you go out there, he takes off. He's like,   oh, almost.   He   rolls out, and he hasn't attacked any house. He did eat we're pretty sure he ate a dead goat.   You know? But he never bothers any of the live ones to the point where they just now make annoyed noises at him when he's standing there. Mhmm. They don't even freak out. They just make an make annoyed noises. Like,   the pig really don't like it.  



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Have you met your department of natural resources, guys?   The DNR come through?  

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No. But we're getting ready to have a bunch of government officials up here because,   when they talk about   taking down all these dams and things in Northern California,   one of the the purpose behind that whole scheme is that they're trying to repopulate   a lot of these rivers up here   with salmon and whatnot.   Mhmm. Because that was their natural spawn. Like, the river that's right down below me is the Eel River, and that was a natural spawning spot for salmon.   And they want that to happen again.   And so they took these dams out, but then not only did they need to take these dams out, all these places during the green rush that had all these marijuana growers in here,   they went in and did some real stupid things to the land and changed a lot of these waterways.  

So now rather than a a traditional   waterway,   anytime it cuts into a new area, that includes carrying a whole lot of sediment with it. And so then this sediment dumps down into the river,   that's no good for the salmon spawning. So in order to actually get that   job done, they have to go in and fix these waterways on the tributaries that are feeding into the Eel River. And we live off of one of those.   The property, you're gonna shit about this, Steve. 260 culverts up on where we live are getting replaced, and they're coming in and redoing the roads.   Wow.  



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Uh-huh. Yeah. We're getting a culverts too. I love the butter burgers and,  

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Yeah. And our roads are private is why this is really surprising, but, again, we're trying to fix these waterways to   stop all the sediment and all the,   you know,   chemicals and whatnot that have been   flooding these areas because of the cannabis growers   that are now gone.   Mhmm.   Yep. So we're gonna have all those people up here just shortly. I think,   did you say January?   Yep. So in January here, they're gonna flood the mountain, and they're they're talking about, like, they're even gonna stay up here. I don't know if they're gonna set up, like, a command tent or something.   Like, where what hotel are you gonna stay at? Are you gonna drive clear to Garberville every day and back? I I don't know. Command center, is that gonna be part of the BBB, the Build Back Better  

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California?   Program. They're gonna rebuild   are they gonna renaturalize   California?  

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No. Just they're gonna they're gonna fix the roads, and then everybody's gonna get hit with, like, a 3% increase on their property taxes.   3% each year? Right. For, like, 20 years.  

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Well, they've already   hell, at best, though, that's gonna because everybody up here has gotta go in and readjust their property taxes.   Because all these properties,   they're trying to tax them like they're they're 100 of 1,000 of dollars.   And, like,   I've, you know, we're up here. There's properties up here that are, like, $40 for 10 acres. And, yeah, during the green rush,   those properties were worth, you know, 200   or $250   or whatever you could get some kid to pay you that wanted to just grow some pot.  

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Mhmm. But now they're not worth that. Those are lost for me.   You're a bionic man. So make sure that there's different laws for bionic man.   I know seniors, I think, can   have their property tax amount frozen because they have, you know, fixed income or limited income.   So different age. Disabled vet. Well, there you go. A disabled vet, a bionic man,   many other great things,   wheel and deal, haggle. They're just the government. What are they gonna do? Put a command center   where the bears are hanging out? The bears will take out that command center real quick.  

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They'll take out their food anyways.  

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Those corporate cronies, they'll bring some donuts, and they'll be gone.   Mhmm. They don't like nature.  

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I actually like it better than the Tweakers. They also come and dig through our trash, and they won't go away just by yelling at them. Right.   There are Tweakers in government positions. They kept trying to have sex sex with most of it, Brian, but also Christy and I.   The bear doesn't do that crap either.   And it and the bear probably would have been bet got a yes before that thing did. That's funny.  

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Do they have to print? Just  

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just rubbing her crotch like a little kid that has to pee. Like   yeah. Yeah. Get me a piece of that.  

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Are they gonna have to put in Tesla charging stations before the government officials can officially   build a command center?  

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Right.  

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That's an interesting question. Are they gonna put in Starlink?  

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There's only so many products   that have,   power.   That's interesting.  

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Mhmm. So they're gonna have to connect a grid or,   you know, try solar power,   put up some windmills.  

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They'll just have generators.   Big giant diesel generators,   probably.  

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Well, then they'll fit in with the rest of us. Yeah.  

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They could just hire you,   deputize you, give you a government position,  

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and then just have you exactly what I want. Information.  

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Yeah. Become a not a government informant,   consultant. Yeah. A government consultant, Balderson,   BionicMan,   and government consultant. There you go. So we're gonna have to print some business cards out,   make it real official.  

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It's my life's aspiration.  

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Maybe we'll get a billboard too. We'll have to take some actors.  

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We're good folks if they replace this culvert over here   because that's technically apparently not on a main road. Mhmm. And they're only doing, like, the main roads.   And that's technically, like, just on mine and Brian's road.   Like, but if you replace the culvert above it, it's gonna wipe this out, and that's gonna take out the whole sediment thing you're trying to avoid.  

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So as a consultant, would you suggest putting in, like, a helicopter landing   pad  

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first?   I think they got spots that they can land them up here anyways.   I'm pretty sure that the helicopters land up here.   They didn't do that the last couple years because their rating wasn't that crazy.   But I guess   from bat that lived up here for 20 years, they talk about it. They're like, because then they they tried that's part of why the roads are so bad. They tried letting them go bad, so they thought the cops couldn't get by the roads. It's like, they just came in helicopters.  

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I'm talking about the government officials who can't get mud on their leather shoes. They need tarmacs and pavements and sidewalks and carpets and things.  

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Yeah. Although those guys usually like it when they can go, you know, spend $300   on a pair of boots they're gonna wear once and get muddy.  

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They're gonna get muddy.  

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Wear your puppy right now. Yeah. Wear your, shit covered jacket when they come by.  

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Right. Oh, yeah.  

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Smell as bad as possible   to them anyway.  

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I don't need it to be on my jacket. My farm just smells like that anyways.   All forms smell kind of the same. When Brian first moved   here, he's like, yeah. When Ben came and picked me up, the truck smelled like a farm.   Like, I knew that was a farm truck. Like, because he lived on a pig farm before. I was like, yeah. That's what it smelled like. Oh, yeah. This is just like that other farm truck. Like, yep. They all smell the same.   It's a stew of shit.   Mhmm. You get, you know, enough animals poop altogether. It's just a stew of it.  

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Which smells less bad than a bunch of politicians   having eaten subway for 6 days in a row and then using 1 clogged toilet in a government building   because no one can decide who's gonna clean the toilet because there's a whole process and paperwork needs to be signed and filled out. And  

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That's true.   That's true.   That's part of how it does. That's part of how where some of that money disappears on, like, the $10,000   hammers and stuff.   There's more red tape and bullshit that has to go through more people than  

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So to even establish a command center, they're gonna have to bring in some porta potties?  

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I would assume so.  

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This is a huge project.   Uh-huh. They're gonna need a consultant on this.  

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It'll be 1,000,000 of dollar tens of 1,000,000 of dollars.   And they're talking about putting in, like, you know, not not 5 and 6 foot culverts. They're talking about putting in 10 foot culverts on the main road.  

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I don't tell them to use. Are they gonna do that? Collect some of that water, put it into a   big barrel,   and then sell it back to city folk as artisanal waters.   Yeah. So we get nestled in the wilderness.  

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Yeah. Oh, look. I got cat ears.   Oh.  

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Who is Kitten on a cabinet.  

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Hi, Matcha.   That's not a kitten. That's Matcha.  

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Well, I'm trying to rhyme elf on a shelf with Yeah. And then it's just  

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the eloquence of language is hard. She's not she's not in the cabinet to hide from her kittens if that helps.  

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She got 5 kittens. It's like the lion king and you're on the   the highest point and you look out and you see these are all the hyenas down there and the   the the jackals and the zebras.  

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That's what she thinks of her kids. Yeah.  

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Yep.  

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Yeah.   It don't take them that long. As soon as they it was hilarious. Macha had the kittens while I was gone,   and she had them down in the horse trailer   where we were keeping hay. And,   I got home. She almost immediately takes them kittens and hauls them up here, and she's like, yeah. And I'm out.   I can now she just bails on him as much as she can. She goes and feeds them, you know, when she has to and then rolls out. She's like, yeah. I'm out of here.   Ain't that right, milk bags?  

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So cats   are free range parents.  

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Not as bad as chickens, but for sure.   Like, 2 weeks after their kids are born, the chickens are like, let me the hell out of here.   They're alright.  

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Yeah. I ironically,   cats are not tiger moms.  

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No.   Sure. So I sent you the story of the woman in Georgia   who is a mother and has multiple sons.   She left her home. Her husband was working out of state.   There's a 10 year old child who was not accounted for when mom left the house. This kid in a town of 500,   I think maybe the   Dollar General or something, a gas station,   is walking down a road.   Sheriff stops him and asks him, you know, what are you doing walking? Where's your mom?   Driving the car. What's going on?   Turns out they later come back to the house, the property when the mom's there to arrest the mother for, like, child endangerment or something.  

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Are there kids out walking?  

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Right.   Yeah.   So then there was this plan. They had,   social  

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services like the CPS. Am I missing something in this?  

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No.   She gets arrested   and then,  

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$500 bail, I think. They came with 10?  

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The kid's 10 years old. 10 years old. They live on   hang on. Hey. It gets better, Ben. It gets better. They live on 16 acres. Town's less than a mile away.   3370   people in the town.   35 mile an hour speed limit   on the road that he's walking to town on.   So a random woman   sees him,   says, are you okay? He goes, yeah. Yeah. We're walking into town. So she calls the cops on him.  

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You know,   at some point in time, these people that do shit like this, you should be given their information.   Like, when you're the victim   of these   assholes. Like, it it shouldn't be okay. This is not okay.  

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Sheriff drove Soren home and left him with his grandfather after returning to the house. Patterson scolded her son, and she thought that was that.   6:30 that night, the sheriff returned with another officer. They told Patterson to turn around and put her hands behind her back. As 3 of her kids watched,   she was handcuffed.   Sheriff took her purse and phone, put her in the cruiser, took her to jail. They dressed her out then.   She had she had to dress out and then,   bonded out for $500.   CPS comes over.  

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This is the real dystopian nightmare where   she goes home to her kids, and then the representative shows up with a safety plan document   teaching the mother how to be a mother,   requiring the mother  

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to download after son's phone. Sheriff and district attorney need to both lose their jobs.  

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Right. The safety plan including   giving the kid a cell phone if he didn't already have one while installing a GPS app to monitor the kid's location at all times   as part of the safety plan. That was the solution.  

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The the this this this district attorney and the sheriff need to lose their jobs,   and that's what needs to start happening.   We need to start voting these people out at these small local elections, these sheriffs, because you know what?   Sheriffs have crazy   amounts of discretion,   crazy amounts of discretion.   Right.   And if the sheriffs of an area decide something is a bad law that they will not have their people following,   the sheriffs have that discretion.   And the people vote those sheriffs in. So if you want a sheriff that will use reasonable discretion   and when some crazy Karen ass shitbag   calls in and is like, oh, a country kid is walking down the street to the town   and and decides that that's child abuse, he tells her, mind your business, lady. Shut up.  



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Keep walking and don't talk to other people.  

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Yeah.   Why are you bothering the little kid, you freaking weirdo?  

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The woman in the car was probably signaling to the kid and screaming at him. Hey. Come over here and talk to me. Come over here and talk to me. He was probably just gonna keep walking and ignore her. She would not allow the child to   continue on his own.   So she was trying to mother this child who was in no danger except for that crazy woman getting his attention.  

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It's like, we don't have to getting his mom arrested and dressed out and, you know, everything else and sheriff showing up at houses, which I gotta tell you. Yep.   You know,   those people when they show up out in the country, especially when they're city cops,   they're a little jumpy   and things happen, and you're just putting people in danger and you are the bad person.   Yeah. That's how that works out.  

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So their solution was   using   GPS   app on a phone to track the child, and the mother did not agree to those terms, did not sign anything.   That same worker who was assigned to the case sent them a birthday card to try and remain friendly.   I don't know if there's lawyers involved, but this is not I didn't remain friendly.  

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When I had my kids,   social services tried fucking around one time. And because of my my youngest two kids,   their mom's no good. And,   the   so so services comes to my house and freaking tried bullying me around, and I told him to get fucked   and told him to get fucked some more.   You know? Like, that's all you can do with those people. The second that you let them in,   you were in deep trouble. It's like letting a vampire in. You gotta tell him to get that right out the gate.  

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Right. So in this story,   they walk in to arrest the mother.   Now if she were to arrest,   with   with what is the word where you resist arrest or resist or resist arrest?   Yeah. If you say, no. I'm not going.  

[01:25:19] Unknown:

No. You can't put handcuffs. You can't really do that.  

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To being arrested right now.  

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You can try. You're just gonna get beat up and arrested anyways.  

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I mean, that's part of the consent ritual, isn't it? I consent to being governed and arrested at any time. When they have guns in a in a in a monopoly on violence,  

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it it really puts you at a disadvantage when you decide to go ahead and stand up because they have no problem with   tapping into that monopoly on violence immediately.   I myself have been beat up numerous times   by by police and and with my hands cuffed.   It's not   all that much fun. I gotta be honest with you. I liked it. And the and the the thing is is anytime they want that to happen, it's gonna happen.   You may maybe   will get some kind of,   retribution   legally later,   maybe,   but you definitely getting beat up right now.  

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I didn't consent to hearing RFK clips just now, but I guess I know Steve did that to you though.  

[01:26:33] Unknown:

That was, unintentional.  

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It makes my throat Unintentional.  

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That was not actually RFK. That was  

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doing his RFK impressions. It makes me it makes me reach for a recall.  

[01:26:48] Unknown:

I,   I am doing a,   Jesse Ventura   impression   in that particular clip, and it's,   yeah, Jesse versus Bobby.  

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Nice.   Nice.   Trump and and Ventura remind me of each other very much.  

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No. Yeah. There's there's some overlap there. There's some similar characters. Both, you know, both in the WWE hall of fame too. Yeah. Yeah.   Weird. Jesse might have been in the WWF.  

[01:27:25] Unknown:

No.   Stop bringing that up.   No.   I don't wanna hear about politicians having actors,   agencies representing them, modeling and talent agencies representing them.  

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They do not. Nuh-uh.  

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I am definitely watching that after we're done.  

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No.   It makes an Australian look like a cow.   Just   eating grass, chewing the scenery, not adding anything to the conversation.  

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Flugelhorn.  

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Flugelhorn.   Flugelhorn. Flugelhorn.  

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For sure.  

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Yeah. Fucking hilarious.  

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The the air horn. I mean, you just you don't like what your opponent's saying, so you blast their ears out so they can't hear anything being said by anyone else.  

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In,   in radio, they call that person the hole.   W h o l h o l no. Hole. H o l e. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hole.   The the person who just derails everything,   just just fucking that's where all the momentum gets sucked to. Yeah. They're dropped into.  

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Understood.  

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They're to take away your fun. No.   You can't say that.   No.  

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It's it's interesting in these debate formats as opposed to, where   typically, I'm a speaker and it's an entirely different,   style of thing.   It's very interesting.  

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Right. So   when the Internet was text only and people were making forums and boards and they're posting   about whatever topics,   there were techniques to derail the conversations   to change the   opinion of the overall   board,   and they had all these different techniques.   And I noticed that on watching Speakeasy a little bit.   Have you seen these IDs of form sliding,   the the techniques of the consensus cracking?   And there's one where you just shut down all conversation  

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by, you know no.  

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We can't talk about that here, or that's off topic.  

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Mhmm.  

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Like, we can debate about anything but   these 10 topics that we remove all posts about.   This is, like, the guide to being a Reddit moderator.  

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Okay.  

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The anger trolling is 1 too where you can just   get really angry.   Mhmm. Just start yelling at people because they angered you.   They gain the full control. Yeah.   I mean, some of these techniques are pretty well known, but once you're familiar with them most all of them. Rich to eat more than 2.   So the ways of disinformation,   get someone to create rumors for you, just start spreading all kinds of rumors   so they can dismiss a true fact as another rumor. Mhmm.   But the, side tracking opponents with name calling and ridicule   No.  



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No. Well, I was trying to get us back on subject  

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in fairness. I was trying to sidetrack us.   I I was I was trolling That's the other technique too. As you get someone who's trying to get back on top, like, can you get someone who's trying to steer off top? Like, and now you've got 2 people at the wheel. What's it what's it? Bunch of people in the bus not knowing where they're going anymore.  

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Was it that breaky it wasn't that breaky fella. Right?  

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I don't know. I don't know names. They didn't have faces.  

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Right. They  

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didn't. Dude, I hate that part of these of these things with these,   other guy with some of these guys.   I I don't like not being able to see people's face.  

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Mhmm.  

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Right. And then you can call that out to say, well, you know what?   Can't see you.   You're not there.   Please mute that person.  

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But when they show up in a debate place and No. There's nobody it's some dude named old mate. Guaranteed, it's old mate.   Okay.   Just by the name freaking,  

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I I Ricky's English, and they don't do the Nar thing. That's an Australian thing. The Australian guy. I was doing that quite a bit. And then there's the Irish guy and the Irish goodbye.   I don't like the topic. I'm leaving now, but you were already tired and, 8 hours of sitting on the stream. We'll do that to you. So that's funny to drop the mic and just leave the conversation. Oh, I just caught that now too. That's hilarious. Fucking you said Steve Irish,  

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goodbye, and I didn't realize he had been on  

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the show. And he did that on the show. Now that's funny. No. The other guy did that to Steve. The other guy. Because he did that email, like, the topics that Steve was bringing up. You know, the host asks, well, what do you talk about on your streams?   Well, you know, a few things, tetrachratic overlords,   panopticon,   you know,   the, blood sucking elite, the, PDF files, you know, the consent ritual of the the election process. You know, just a few of these things.   You're such a killjoy, Steve. You you joined the Speakeasy.  

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We do dick jokes too in fairness.   There there's there's plenty of dick jokes.  

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Yes.   So talk about the dick jokes.   Right. Talk about the humor.   It's like the humor comes out of the seriousness of the topics being discussed.   Yeah. And when you introduce yourself as the guy who talks about the technocratic overlords   and the PDF files in government who are blood sucking the the children, and then it's like that all sounds like conspiracy theory.   So I'm listening to this, and I'm thinking, do these guys not know who Steve is and think that he's a conspiracy theorist, boomer, qanon   uncle of theirs?   Maybe. Also say   basically what you're saying,   but don't know anything about it. So they know what the keywords are to say,   but they don't have anything further to say on the top of it. Oh, that's fine.  

So they're like, no. Not this again.  

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Yeah. Yeah. But that's the other technique is to  

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know what the topic is, but know nothing about the topic. So I don't know anything about the topic. I don't like the topic. I don't wanna know anything about the topic.   So let's not talk about the topic. So the topic is over discussed,   but no one knows what the finer details of the argument are.   No. Trump is not an actor. No. Trump doesn't have This is part of why even in my,  

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religious more religious based argument, I had to   I spent a lot of time. You can see me thinking and looking off to the side is because I was trying to   piling on more information   was not gonna help.   I had to hone down what I was gonna hit and just keep hitting that thing like a freaking high school kid that just found a clit.  

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Sure.   That's that is a tool and that's listed on the disinformation   guide. Like,   when   you flood them with so much information, they can't remember one fact. They're just like, I disagree with that guy. And they're like, well, what did you disagree with? Well, everything. Well, this is what I meant something like. Well, he listed   a dozen different things, and I can only count to 3.   So I don't even remember what he said, but I didn't like the tone of his voice.   Yeah.   I didn't like I didn't like what he was   alleging. I didn't like the allegations against   these media figure billionaires   who I really love and respect.  



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The worst part is is that's why any any serious   sync thinking person kinda has to laugh at anybody that's, like, all into the political thing. Because the only time they're being honest is when they're talking shit about the other side.   And and both sides pretends like they aren't doing the thing that they're talking about and, like, that the other side's accusing and it's all and we all already know it's true. Like, this election,   there was a whole lot of,   the one side accusing the other side of only using a hate rhetoric.   And that was basically what come on came out into 90% of both of your mouths,   and we all recognize that. And so when either side   will sit there and pretend like that and join in on that nonsense,   we all know you aren't serious people because you get all you have to do is turn around and look at the other side and realize that they're also spewing hateful rhetoric. Right? This is just nonsense. And how do you do that? Soccer hooligans and their hatred for the other club Yeah. Team.  

Yeah. It has turned into a very soccer hooligan  

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style. Point that out to people to say, you know,   you guys are celebrating a victory   or you're celebrating   a defeat of your opponent   is probably the way they look at it. It's not a victory. It's they're celebrating the defeat of their opponent, which they fought against. And then Steve comes in and says, you know,   let's talk about the consent ritual of being governed by On the 1st week?  

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On the 1st week, Steve?   You didn't give them a week to celebrate? You walked right into their Black Panther party and picked a fight?  

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Yeah. Yeah. I I did. You know, there's there's listeners. We don't know who the listeners are, and maybe the listeners will like what they heard from Steve, and they didn't like what they heard from the younger fellas. And maybe they didn't want It sounded a lot like this, Ben.  

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I could do that. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Last thing. Last thing. I'm also gonna need that extended warranty on it for the price of on the house.  

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That I can't do. I don't be a Negro. Be my nigga. Alright? Help me out. Hold on. But hold hold on. I ain't nobody's nigga.  

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Well, I mean, you somebody's nigga wearing this nigga top. Now you're being condescending.   See? You've been warned. Alright? Let's move forward amicably. Okay. Well, check this out, though. First of all, you're throwing too many big words at me. Okay? Now because I don't understand anymore, because you disrespect  

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watching me Yeah. That's that's No. You can't show r rated clips on the show. That's a that's a lot when it was like No. You can't show a movie that only 17 year olds and above can watch.   No. I need to infantilize   myself   further.  

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No. Because I don't understand them, I'm gonna take that as disrespect.   Oh, shit.  

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Alright. Pack up the pan pan   Panopticon.   Is that the word we couldn't say? There you go. Pack it up, boys.  

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Enough with your Panopticons.  

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Stop stop fighting the, technocratic overlords.  

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It does include   that hot chick in the panopticon   turning into Decepticon   and the fucking   shredder. I don't wanna hear about it. That Mila Mila Jovanovic?   Mila Jovanovic? She's not that one. It's the weird one that has that sleeps with MGK now.  

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I was gonna say Christy Alley, but no,   Daryl Hannah.   Who are the young Megan Fox. Megan Fox is still pretty old, though. One.  

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I didn't meet her, but I met MGK.  

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Right. So now we can talk about have been passed out. We can talk about the ethics of old men engaging in debates with the young fellas.   And is that,   ethical   or is that unethical?  

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Well, we are not well enough known in the debate community yet to   have access to some of the   bigger, more well informed debaters. So we gotta get there.   And we and also, I'm not,   Steve's better at it than I am. He gets more practice in this thing, but I've mostly been a presenter.   And the things I present, there isn't very many people well versed enough to even   try and question what I'm talking about. Like, that's part of why,   you look a lot of my most popular presentations.   Some of them that had had literal 100 of thousands of people watching.   There's very few questions.  

Like,   they just don't have questions for me, so I've not been in this cross fighter position   a lot. Steve's been in it a whole lot more, and I'm you know, no matter how much knowledge I have   and how much wisdom, how much how even   that I've been practicing on presenting   for a while, I've not been put in those positions and I'm not, you know,   no matter how good I could be at it, I'm not there yet. I I'm I've not done it. I've not practiced at it. And when I when I go to debate somebody that's really a good debater, it's not gonna go good the first so many times. And there's the confidence of I'm gonna interrupt you now. I'm gonna talk over you. I'm gonna hold my microphone right into my mouth  

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and talk over you so that I can talk over you without saying anything of importance while I talk over you.   That verbal jujitsu, you gotta bob Well, that that that's, yeah, that's a whole,  

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learning styles and things like that. That's got nothing to do with the information   that you're trying to present.   That that's your,   some of your stylings. And and, just like last night, you could see the difference between when I'm getting fired on and then when I'm controlling the room and they're all confused amongst each other, that's   trying to control the conversation   just like any other,   contest   is gonna be 90% of what you're doing. So if you're not getting pushed, but you're you know, that's   a whole different thing. Whoever's controlling the the pace and the tone, that person's   in a really good position.  

Tribe based Oracle   or Glenn Lawrence based Oracle.  

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The lowest network.   Continue to network.  

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Yep. We appreciate that.  

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Mhmm.   Another   suggestion there.   Where station 33.  

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Glenn.   What was it? Glenn what?  

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Lawrence.  

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Is he is that the guy that was recently in a fight with,   Easy, the guy that Steve and I were just on with?   I think he also just had a debate on,   the crucible, but he didn't do real very well, but he also just said this I think that was his first debate. So he's also in a position to where, you know,   just like when I started speaking, I had to try and figure out the metaphors that were gonna work out well. I had to figure out my rhetoric,   and that same thing's gonna happen now.   Only now it's in a position to where,   like I said, last night, some of the things I could have kept explaining some things and adding more information, but that wouldn't have helped. It wouldn't have made the situation better. So you gotta kinda figure these things out, and that takes practice.  



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It's more of a sales pitch that you're making. It's less of a debate. It's more of a pitching your idea and selling it to them   quickly.  

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Station   33.  

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Appreciate Glenn a lot. Effort. Here's Glenn Lawrence's   channel.  

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Cool banner.  

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Well, we can talk to a  

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g   l o I guess we can talk to a g l e if we're gonna do this in alphabetical   reverse order.  

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Mhmm.   Okay.  

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Excellent.   I have to start sending some   invites out.   And we realized the, the collaborations work sometimes.   That's one way of getting   cross pollination across audiences.   And then to Oh, man. Yes. Knowing knowing their audience isn't gonna care. Yeah. Knowing their audience isn't gonna care about what we have to say.   Yep. We just wanna create the content. So it'll be   us debating someone else's   audience. You know, they're not gonna come over and listen to us presumably,   but he'll have the content on his channel where he's talking with us.   Yeah. Yeah. So it's not like we're gonna grow our audiences by doing this, which is why we're  

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growing. But like I said, we have no measuring sticks. The fact is is we're   we're friends, and we're too similar. And we need other people to give a juxtaposition   to have the conversation to fully air out where our position is.   We need to have something to measure against, and so we need other people to debate.   And we're just not known in the debate world yet. And the worlds that we're leaving debate like myself,   nobody debates   in,   in in the speaking world and that I came from. If you, in fact, if you don't like something somebody said and you say that out loud, holy shit balls.   Oh.  



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Yeah. If you critique another person's presentation when you're on a a panel of Yeah. You might not get invited back just because you   said something that hurt someone else's feelings even if it's true,   even especially if it's true.  

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Yeah.   Yeah. We'll definitely snipe some fans, and there'll be people that, align with us, but that's that's definitely not the,   goal. If the goal is more to get ourselves known amongst debaters so we can start   having good debates.   And then once that happens and I agree. I I agree, Christie.   The   it's coming. It's coming.   I have a debate coming up with Andrew Wilson. That'll get a lot of eyes on it. And if I can at least   have somewhat of a good showing, a lot of people are gonna wanna come take a swing at me at that point because   if I can do even, you know, stand stay standing with them,   they're gonna the the mentality that people put into that then is then then then then if they can beat me, then they could do better than that with him.  

And so   it's just the way people's minds work. And so then that'll immediately make people want to come debate us.  

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A lot of these people just will not even consider   debate. They wanna do a q and a. They wanna do an interview.   They wanna have a conversation.   They don't wanna do a debate. So when someone will not allow you to debate them and their ideas,   how strong are their ideas?  

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And that's why, like, last night, I sat and let, you know, the whole room of them just poke at me. Right.   And and knowing and the thing is is if if it would've went deeper, I could've obviously, you guys all know me.   I could have started explaining on a more scientific level the things I was saying. But if you, you know,   like a dumble of the cow and the you mirror the frost giant and how that works and where the metaphors coming into that. No.  

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You can't talk Marvel movies to me.  

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I don't wanna talk Marvel movies.   No.   No. No.  

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So then   if we'll return to the It's just too funny, man. Hello again. And he brought up his gnomes. His gnome army, who was not reading his material   and not in not even planning to engage   in debate to say, we don't like your material. We don't like your ideas. Let's push back. The guy gets him into a a call,   records it,   cowardly.   I know what we're talking about. Have not heard a word from any people   in their camp.   Have not heard anything   from anybody on the website that we looked at, have not heard anything.   So they kind of must have just backed down or completely ignored the thing altogether.  

Probably  

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Probably why. Note,  

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saw what was going on, didn't like us making fun of salt lamps, and said, no. These guys have something against the Himalayans.  

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They are smelly   like yaks.  

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Yep.   So it was Nobody likes to not engage.   Do not engage.   Do not engage. So now but the whole premise, the premise of that video against Glow from the guy in the black   hat was that Glow was attempting to infiltrate   their community. So he gets ahead of that by saying,   don't listen to this guy. He's a crazy red pill   alpha male maniac   who has dangerous ideas and promotes the   graping   of our fruit bearing women here, and we wanna be very protective   of our little coven,   our our gentle little coven over here.   So out of,   due diligence   as being a courageous man wearing a black hat with an upside down star on it, looking real   hard and heavy,   I'm gonna tell you,   my audience and my cult members   who are paying me   upwards of $666   for a course in my, you know,   wisdom of magic or whatever.  

It was a wizard war that was happening. So it was glow as a practice occultist   going against,   the king of the witches.   And the king of the witches said,  

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no.  

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Awesome. And then no conversation happened. There was no warring of warlocks and wizards and witches, and   nothing happened.   They could not win a fair fight   so they didn't go to battle   yet.   Maybe   maybe they will.   Maybe. But it seems not a profitable   venture for them to   have to then,   you know, claim or verify the  

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It was it was just a virtue signaling if with no price is one thing. But then when you possibly start getting looking stupid when you have to stand up for what you're think what you're saying. Paid for private community at stake.  

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And if you lose paying members to your private community, call it a coven, call it a group, call it whatever you want.   If those guys   start to think maybe our   leader is a coward   and doesn't know as much about the occult as he claims to wanna be teaching us  

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We'll see.   Hide that information. Dollars   and and give you way better stuff.   And and if you come by, we'll smoke a joint with you.   It's been blessed by all 3 of us.  

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That's true.  

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It doesn't apply for going to Marcus's house. He will not.   He does not live in California.  

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That's the fine print. Yep. I'll have to fly out to California. Yeah. But I require a helicopter ride and a helicopter pad to land on.  

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Wow.   A helicopter.  

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Right. So we're gonna I am so sorry. Charging.  

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Top helicopter,   mechanics in the world, and he's never been on a helicopter ride. And he's like he's like, it's just a fact. Those things are do not they defy physics. He's like, they it's a only so many times that thing's gonna go up before it comes down hard. He's like, I'm not gonna be on it.  

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Yeah. Whirlybirds.   What? It's it's hunting season.  

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What? Look. Look. Look at the camera. Say, somebody come take me.  

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It's in the   eyes of an angel.  

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Hi. Do I do I need to like Maclachlan,   and I'm going to ruin your whole fucking day.  

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I want Kyle McLaughlin to do a commercial. It's already 2 in the morning. You're eating really bad food and drinking things that you didn't want anybody to see you drink, and you feel horrible about yourself already.   Now here's this one eyed cat   with the with only one leg.   Will you let this suffer inside of a cage   in the arms   of an angel?   Hatches.   Well, I can't that just let me do all that shit too. The cat was just like, whatever, dude. Just keep just keep petting me. Mhmm.  

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That's funny.  

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No one talked about the cruelty that went into that commercial. They had to break   animals'   legs  

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to film that.   Sarah McCaugh is like, you don't look this one doesn't look lame and I'll cry.   Oh my   god.  

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Oh, that's hilarious. Look into it, guys. It's a real racket.  

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Well, this one's not this one's this one's actually kind of got a little tubby belly, and it's pretty happy. It Your kittens come pre fed?   Yeah. They they they eat good.   Then they're very friendly,   so come take some.   It's a limited time offer of take by get get one for free and take 2 more for free.  

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I gotta get rolling here soon, fellas.  

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Yep.   Yep. Well, we apologize that, the debate didn't happen tonight,   but, it will be fire next week. I've been it'll just give me another week to   see what Nico has to say. I've watched a little bit of his stuff. He's a well thought out individual.   So where he's gonna come in at us with this, I'm I'm I'm super curious and a little bit nervous   because, it's not gonna be the typical   nonsense.   So   but it it'll be a fire one.   Go ahead and everybody go check out Speakeasy   stuff last night. Steve and I both went on there. I was on there for about 3 hours   banging it out.  

Go ahead and check that out, everybody.   And, love you guys.  

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Yeah. Yeah. We'll we'll see you next week, everybody.   Have a good one.