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Women's Hour broadcasts live every Sunday at 7:00p.m. uk time. 

In this episode of Women's Hour on RadioSyncBox, host Shelley Tasker engages in a lively conversation with Louise Tibbets, a reform candidate in the upcoming elections. Louise shares her journey from being inspired by Steve Bannon to standing as a candidate for Reform UK. She discusses her motivations, the challenges she faced during the COVID-19 lockdowns, and her commitment to supporting local farmers and small businesses. Louise also touches on her personal experiences with political disillusionment and her determination to make a positive impact in her community.

Later in the episode, Shelley welcomes Jessica, also known as Pennyred, the founder of Clifford's Kingdom. Jessica shares her passion for equine therapy and her journey of establishing Clifford's Kingdom in memory of her late son. She discusses the therapeutic benefits of working with horses and her plans to offer free sessions to families. Jessica also talks about her experiences with AI and the potential it holds for both positive and negative impacts. The episode wraps up with a heartfelt conversation about the importance of community and support.

[00:01:04] Unknown:

Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.   Well, actually, good ladies to the women out there, But we know there's the odd few gentlemen listening as well.   You are listening to women's hour on radiosyncbox.com.   I'm also   streaming   live via rumble. So if you wanna go to rumble channel, just Shelley Tasker, you'll find my channel,   and you can leave any comments, etcetera.   Today's date is Sunday, 04/13/2025,   just the end of another week. And I've got two great guests lined up this evening.   Sadly, captain Joe is not joining us this week. Joe's father has been taken poorly,   so sending out love and healing thoughts to Joe and her family at this time,   and lots of get well wishes.  

But   we, have got I've got two great guests lined up, as I said. So our first guest is the wonderful Louise Tibbets   who is running   as a reform candidate in this next election.   So we are gonna get Louise on, and we're gonna have a good old little chinwag.   Good evening, Louise.   Hi. How are you doing?  

[00:02:16] Unknown:

I'm doing really well. Thank you. I'm having a great day.  

[00:02:20] Unknown:

You look a bit nervous, Louise.   Yeah. I'm I'm cool as a cucumber. Cool as a cucumber. That's what I like to hear. You've got to be if you're running for, counselor.   So tell us a little bit about how you've got to this point. You're running,   for reform. Yeah. Sure. And what area are you from? I mean, I've known Louise for a few years now, passionate women, knowledgeable women,   and here she is.   Credit to her standing.   Yeah. Standing. So tell us a little bit about yourself, Louise.  

[00:02:53] Unknown:

Okay.   How far back do you go really with these things?   So how did I get to stand as a candidate?   I think   I felt I'm a huge fan of Steve Bannon,   Steve Bannon's war room.   So I think many of your listeners will also   know Steve. He's a brilliant   historian.   He's a brilliant politician.   He obviously   got Trump elected the first time. He was the guy behind the tactics, and he guided Trump into election against enormous odds.   And so,   I'd be out there working in my garden during COVID and lockdowns, and I'd be listening to Steve Bannon.   And,   he talked about   people getting out there and doing their bit.  

And,   I also,   I'm a spiritual lady.   I believe in   believe in God.   And the people I was listening to, there's a channel called Seeking the Glory of God,   and they gave out this message as well   that it's no good just to sit back and complain about things or wait for Jesus to come back.   It's it's, so   without wishing to offend anyone or ruffle their feathers.   I think some of us are called   to stand up and make a difference   in the world. I totally agree. And I very much felt that call.  

[00:04:23] Unknown:

Wow. And,  

[00:04:24] Unknown:

but I was frustrated not knowing what to do.   And, now I'm trying to remember how I actually got involved in Reform UK. I was at the time, I was going along I was with Shelley, going to the different groups that we go to. We were   campaigning hard, weren't we Shelley? We were. We were going out there into public places, and I saw this brave lady   stand in front of Truro Cathedral   at a time when protests were banned.   And we had the police around us, and we had the,   the cameras everywhere. They were taking pictures to see who was there.   And it was pretty scary, and I saw her standing up and doing her bit.  

And,   so I I moved in those circles,   the awake circles.   But I felt that   it wasn't quite my place.   I've got a little bit of a hippie vibe. I wasn't hippie enough.   I wasn't hippie enough.   So,   I knew that I needed   the other side of my life is very business based and very formal.   And I do love a good intellectual debate, and I love,   to really chew through the issues.   And I I just wanted something that was a bit more,   if I say conservative, I don't mean conservative as in ideology. I mean conservative as in format. So I decided to join Reform UK.   I decided to leaflet   because this was the only option on the table. And when we had the election,   when Labour got in,   I I was so angry at the Tories for the way that Boris Johnson sold us down the river.  

They betrayed   everything   that   I I need to go back a bit.   The Tories had an 80 seat majority, which basically means they could have done what they liked back in 02/2019.   And I was really excited when that happened because I thought this is where I thought Boris was going to be a Trump.   I thought he was going to bring in a golden age. We'd have,   business booming.   We'd have the cost of living dropping. We would have   jobs. We would have an end of the   constant decline in The UK. That's what I thought was going to happen.   Instead, what happened is after six months of some lovely speeches that he made about not wanting to betray our trust, loads of people put faith in him. Many people in the North,   in what's called the,   the Red Belt area,   they voted Tory for the first time in their lives.  

And all those people were betrayed because within six months of the Tories being voted in,   everything turned communist.   That's the best way I could put it. Suddenly,   our   establishment   was following the playbook   of the Chinese Communist Party,   and   it was and I could tell when they were doing all their fancy speeches. That was when I lost it with   conventional politics.   I no longer.   I I wanted to know what was going on.   And and that's when I stopped watching the BBC   Hooray. On the radio call.   Because I realized they were all liars,   Total liars. They're just there to give out government propaganda. I'd had my doubts,   but it was confirmed to me   then when the lockdowns came in that these people definitely   did not mean you good. This had nothing   the virus was an excuse. There was more to it. I think we're still trying to work out exactly   what was going on behind the scenes. Though I did hear I think there's somebody called John Ferrara who is the head of,   he's   the well the Welcome Foundation. He's linked with Bill Gates,   and he also had links with the head of Public Health England.  

And   he went over to China   to find out how to   deal with this virus. Now I personally believe   that,   they knew at that time it was a lab leak,   that this was a serious I do believe it was a serious virus, which appeared   on the surface to be a flu.   But I I believe that   it was loaded with some very dangerous   components   that would gradually destroy people's health. So on the one hand,   there was a kind of sense to what they were doing, but it was the whole thing was murkier and darker and deeper   than we even know than is publicly brought to knowledge.   And when the jabs came out,   I I told my children,   don't whatever you do, don't don't have a jab.  

Because the way it was being pushed   was complete was totally suspicious.   Just everything wasn't everything was wrong about the whole situation.   It was scary.   And the lies, there were so many lies. I once I saw one MP stand up in parliament,   the lovely Matt Hancock.   And within in one speech, within about   five minutes, he told three blatant lies.   And,   so you had to do something,   didn't you, Shelley? You did. Something had to be done. Something had to be done.  

[00:10:09] Unknown:

Most people say to me, oh, that's it. If you join, you'll be just as corrupt as the others. And I don't believe it. I don't believe that if you get elected, you're gonna suddenly be corrupt. Because there must be people and you do see genuine politicians that like to share things, and you think, oh, go you, bringing it up and stuff like that. There are genuine   people out there, and you wouldn't be doing it just for a bit of fun, would you? It's not like it's serious stuff.  

[00:10:36] Unknown:

Yeah. I think that,   sorry. I'm a bit distracted because I can hear an echo, but,   I'm I'm going to do what I believe is right, whatever the consequences.   I'm not as brave as Katie Hopkins.   She is a absolute tower of strength.   She's a bit foul mouthed, for my liking,   but she's got a big heart, and she's very brave. And it was lovely to see her when she came down to Truro.   But if I'm on the council, on at every turn,   I would do what my conscience dictates.   So the current issue is with the farmers,   and it's disgusting the way that their businesses are being destroyed.   I've always stood up for the little guy. I've always hated bullying,   and this is bullying by government diktat.  

And so   the farmers will have with me   somebody who will vote on their side. We're only talking local politics here.   I might spend 90% of my time   sorting out a planning application for a village hall or something like that, or somebody complaining to me about their neighbors burning having bonfires.   And that's the kind of stuff I deal with in my regular business because I I'm a property manager.   So,   I'm used to dealing with maintenance problems   and everything to do with fabric   of life of,   re top acting roads and building walls   and reading plans and,   you know, all the tedium of playing applications   and neighbors falling out with each other. So that might be 90% of my time.  

But   if there is an opportunity   to stand up for the farmers or anyone else, any small business   that needs somebody to take their side, then I will do that.   And   as I see it,   that should be what's at the heart of Reform UK. And all the people, the other candidates,   have a similar attitude, the ones that are full of enthusiasm and fire.   That's how they feel. And I think sometimes you have to do what you believe is right whatever the outcome.  

[00:12:51] Unknown:

Definitely. Definitely.   And no doubt you will And I'm probably talking braver than I feel. Oh, bless you. No. No.  

[00:12:58] Unknown:

At the same time, I will see a a well qualified accountant   because you know that they're going to come after you Of course they are. Financially.   Of course they are. You know that you're going to be accused of doing something.  

[00:13:11] Unknown:

You're going to be a brave person to do what you're doing because I look at people now like Perrin Moon in Campbell, for instance,   and the flack that he takes,   well, he doesn't take it. People just post it about him on Facebook.   And I just think, you got some people saying he's doing this, some people say he's not doing that. And I think, poor bugger, he can't do right for doing wrong, can he, really? And I know that he was one of these having to have an accountant and stuff because supposedly   he's overspent and I don't know how much of that is true and that's the problem we're fed so much false information   to make us think bad about people.  



[00:13:47] Unknown:

They'll probably find something I think they don't Louise but something really bad about you. That's a worrying thing. I think I think all all my life, I've sought to do good for the people who don't trust me and are my worst critics.   I like that. Yeah.  

[00:14:02] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:14:03] Unknown:

Because I think that's the attitude you have to have.   I think that   I'm very surprised if I get thanks or acknowledgement.   I mean, it has turned around in the end. When I took over the family business, twenty, twenty five years ago,   I locked my the office door.   I was I was handed the keys   because the former business manager had passed away suddenly. My parents were living overseas.   I had to give up the work I was doing because I needed   somebody to look after the children, and they'd   I'd I'd been through the second au pair, and so I was just handed the keys and told, look. If you're not doing anything else right now, could you do this? So,   I went into this office door.  

I had loads of letters of complaints. There were people coming to see me at the office door being really angry and,   reading the riot act.   So I locked it, crawled into the corner, and cried.  

[00:14:59] Unknown:

Oh.  

[00:15:01] Unknown:

Oh, no. It was really it was,   heartbreaking. I was heartbroken   because   I believed that, you know, we were a good family. We had a good name. And it it broke my heart to see,   the way that things have fallen apart because it hadn't been looked after properly.   Anyway,   I picked myself up. I I did what I could. I I   used whatever resources I had to get the business up and running again.   I'm not an Alan Sugar.   I'm not a Trump.   But at least now,   people long to live in one of our properties. When I say our properties, it's all complicated. It's I don't have any ownership.   I just run the businesses. There are several businesses,   and we're very sought after.  

And,   and very we we have a very appreciative   clientele, if I can put it like that. So I've I've won out before  

[00:15:59] Unknown:

and so I can't see why I wouldn't win out again. No. Absolutely. I know. Go you. Yeah. I'm looking forward to seeing this actually because I said to you earlier it's interesting because four years ago I was standing as a candidate   and I won votes over Meghan Curnow and, I didn't have a clue what I was doing.  

[00:16:18] Unknown:

That's fantastic.   Well, none of us do. I don't know what to do,  

[00:16:24] Unknown:

but I will stand for freedom and the people.  

[00:16:27] Unknown:

Well, apparently, that's the perfect qualification for being an MP, not having a clue what you're doing   is is,  

[00:16:34] Unknown:

we can see at the moment. Yeah. And I just think now, like, got all that leafleting, and this is what you've been doing today, isn't it? And you're still, like, you're having a break now, but you're gonna go back and do more in a minute. I I actually really enjoy leafleting. Do you not do you drop them and run, or do you knock and say hi?  

[00:16:52] Unknown:

Well, I get you more brazen as time goes on. Oh, it's like No. So initially, I was   I I I've learned that if you look as if you have a right to be there, if you take the attitude,   I've got every right to be here, you walk through people's gates and into their gardens, and sometimes they're sat there having breakfast in their conservatories.   But if you just look like,   I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing here, they generally accept that, and they don't question you. Yeah. Yeah. And, I do go up to them and I say I'm campaigning for the council elections,   and this is me,   and, this is who I'm standing for.  

Reform UK doesn't have the an an untarnished reputation.  

[00:17:35] Unknown:

Does any of them?  

[00:17:38] Unknown:

But having said that, I I'm actually being really impressed at how positive the response has been. And   I I think   I take the view that we're reformers, and that's the line I say. I say, look. Whenever you think about this   country, our our   institutions need reform,   and I am a reformer.   So if you want what we've got at the moment to continue,   then vote Labour, Tory, Lib Dem.   But if you want things to be set right,   then then vote for people like me.  

[00:18:14] Unknown:

Wonderful.   And, like, these people, so they're giving you a good response and stuff like that. I mean, how long is it until the elections, Louise?  

[00:18:23] Unknown:

They start the May 1. Now I worked like crazy last week to try and clear my in tray so that I could spend this week leafleting.   But my in tray is filling up again, of course.   Of course.  

[00:18:38] Unknown:

But one thing that I find interesting when I was doing it was the amount of people I'd left it late anyway, that's the story of my life but the amount of people that I've gone to and actually gone really well and stuff, elderly people, they were like oh I put mine in the post a week ago'   and I said oh okay it's already done'   so just, putting in there you probably know this anyway but they get to vote before everybody else.  

[00:19:03] Unknown:

They say I mean,   the the bullet the gate approach,   I we'll see how well that works. That's my approach. It's just, like, just keep going.   Just keep delivering leaflets. Just keep talking to people. I have been actually very surprised how nice the response has been,   and that's nice. That's really good because a lot of people are fed up with politics. They don't want to know anymore.  

[00:19:27] Unknown:

They don't know. And I know people say don't bother voting. It's not worth voting, but I just kind of think, well, I know when I've run before, it's every vote is a vote, isn't it? And I wouldn't want to waste that if I thought   that there is a chance of change, but there's lots of people that think they're rigged before they even start. Everybody's got got different perceptions and ideas on it. Well that's not a courageous response is it, Shelley? It's not a courageous response. It's the coward's way out like oh this is a bore, it's wearing me down, I can't be bothered, I'm bored. Yeah, yeah. Well, how long does it take to go and tick a box and post it through the thing?   And sometimes I am in those two options, like, does it make a difference? But I think, well, if I can give someone that vote and support them, if it works, it works. I don't know. But, there's always gonna be controversy for it.  



[00:20:15] Unknown:

I like Trump saying we'll see what happens.  

[00:20:18] Unknown:

Look. He's saying Let's see what happens. Yeah. Yeah. And I actually like what he's been doing over there. I've only heard snippets, but then I hear snippets as well of what else he's supposedly done and stuff. But, you know, he's a gangster. Well, my brother stopped talking to me because I've said nice things about Trump, so that's been quite painful.  

[00:20:36] Unknown:

We had we we went to a few,   rallies in London together. It was a wonderful uniting you know, we we   our pals had gone in different directions for many years.   And then, we both woke up at the same time, if you like, and we discovered we had a lot in common.   He he is the one that,   you know, he's he's riding rabbits down rabbit holes.   He's going he's really into it. He's he's definitely flat earth and   and,   Trump is   a a Jewish   puppet.   And I can see where he's coming from with that, but   I I I feel you kind of he went through an awful lot to get through that last election,   and I am disappointed with some of the stuff he's doing.  

I hope that Kenneth I hope that RFK Junior   wins out, because I think the battle is ongoing over there.   And, you know, we can't   they are humans.   You know? I think in some people's minds, we sort of think that they have magical powers,   but in the end, they have to deal   with   a,   a bureaucracy   that's hostile.   And, so I think we have to be patient. We have to support them.   And, you know, it was a very interesting conversation I heard the other day. There was, a country singer who was invited to   Trump's one of his dinners,   And Trump said to him,   why is it that when I talk about the jobs, I get booed?  

Now this guy gave a brilliant speech to Trump. He said, well, the thing is, he said, what you need to understand is many of those people were threatened with losing their jobs.   They were threatened they lost family members. People they were injured by those jabs.   And so, you know, that's   you need to understand   that that there was actually a lot of harm and a lot of upset   caused by that. And and that shows how I think Trump is   isolated   from the public. I think he's surrounded by people. And I think this happens to people who are very high up in the world, public figures.   I think they're deliberately surrounded   by those who will,   control them.  

So because I know that Lindsey Graham was at that dinner, and he interrupted   what this, country singer was saying. And he said, no, Trump. You've got to realize if you and I hate that Lindsey Graham. I'm I'm and you mustn't say that you hate somebody. But,   he he interrupted that conversation   to switch it. And he said to Trump, if you hadn't got the jabs in, then you wouldn't have been elected   again. He said that was an important thing. And so you can see there   how there are these people planted around people in the public eye   who feed, who drip feed,   messaging   and it must be so hard for them to know who to trust.  



[00:23:40] Unknown:

Must be so hard. That's how I feel about most of it to be honest with you. I just hear so much and I just think, well, do I need to make a decision? I don't. It doesn't concern me directly at the moment,   but I always see, like, both sides. You know?   Anyway Yeah.   So   you're what what town are you standing for, Louise?  

[00:24:02] Unknown:

What town? Yeah.   I'm standing for What do they call it? What ward are you Electoral division. Oh, I can't hear you. Have wards. Oh, I can hear you. Electoral Oh, okay. Electoral divisions. It's a bit of a strange one because it's a it's a funny shape.   So I'm in the Perimpouz   Electoral Division.   I love Perimpouz.   It's a beautiful   country,   seaside town.   It's just the right size. It's full of surfers. It's got beautiful, absolutely beautiful beaches.   It's got lovely cafes and,   cheap eateries and posh eateries, and it's not overdone. It's not too pretentious. It's a beautiful place.   But it's got a lot of hills in it.  

So I've I've had to do a lot of walking up steep hills.   But, yeah, I'm really proud to be there, and I've got a lovely team of people with me. I want to give a shout out to Kaye   and Carol.   They're the stars of the Perham Bay nursing home.   Right. And,   they,   they're they're very outspoken wake ladies,   and they've been my absolute   my absolute bricks. They've been absolute   supports. Brilliant.   And so I want to give them a shout out and acknowledgement  

[00:25:23] Unknown:

of all the help they've given me. Oh, great stuff. And you do need that team, don't they? Have you got, like, a Facebook page and stuff, Louise, where people can find you?  

[00:25:33] Unknown:

I'm very I'm very careful about Facebook at the moment.   I I should do some social media, so maybe you could help help me out with that, Shelley. Yeah. I think I'm frightened because I   I I feel comfortable on rumble   that,   you know, the you know how it is with policing in The UK.  

[00:25:58] Unknown:

Oh, god. You're taking me back now, but yeah. Yeah.   Oh, I mean So,  

[00:26:04] Unknown:

I I am actually Louise Tibbetts. I'm Louise Tibbetts on Facebook if people want to contact me. Yeah. Let's do it. And my   my image, the headline is no farmers, no food.   Right. So So if you see no farmers, no food, yellow, Louise Tibbets, that's me. And you're welcome to message me.   Hi to all you people over there in America.   I love your country.   I I love to see what you're doing, and I love the way that you're leading the way. And,   hats off to you, all you valiant,   awake people over there.  

[00:26:37] Unknown:

Oh, lovely stuff. I mean, quick question there before you go. Have you and your brother made amends yet, or is that still  

[00:26:45] Unknown:

Not yet.  

[00:26:47] Unknown:

But you will. I'm sure you will in time.  

[00:26:50] Unknown:

It's a painful thing. Well, I don't I haven't fallen I haven't fallen out with him.   It would be nice. I think if we give it a year and see what happens in The US, but he's going through a hard time.   And he he is a sweetheart. He's a real gentle soul, and he's got a big heart. And I just think he's,  

[00:27:10] Unknown:

I I don't know. It's hard to say, but we will. We'll be fine. He's a good soul, and I love him. I didn't speak to my brother and his wife, my niece and my nephew for about two years with the whole COVID thing. It's quite sad really, but now we're all up to normal. We just don't talk about it. Just don't talk about it. It's  

[00:27:26] Unknown:

sorry. There's somebody ringing me.  

[00:27:29] Unknown:

I've got to stop talking more. On the radio.  

[00:27:31] Unknown:

What I will say   what I will say is it's really wicked   how our minds are being played with and how families are being divided.   It's very evil.  

[00:27:42] Unknown:

Yeah. And I think a lot of people forget that. It was only four years ago. I hope that,  

[00:27:47] Unknown:

I can't hear you now. I've lost the sound.  

[00:27:51] Unknown:

Okay. Well, look. I'm gonna leave you to I've lost the sound, Shelley. Okay. I'm doing sign language.  

[00:27:56] Unknown:

I don't know what you've done.  

[00:27:59] Unknown:

Well, thank you so much, and I'll see you soon. Good luck. We'll see you on Wednesday actually.   Right, take care.   Always seems to happen on the last   minute   of   the interview, well it did the other day actually, with Mr Mark Byford.   Right, I've got the lovely Jessica up next,   but before she comes on I'm gonna play a quick song   and I will be back in a couple of minutes.   See if it's gonna play.   A lovely little Sunday hymn.   Right, our next guest is the wonderful Jessica,   also known as Pennybread.   She was on with us a few weeks ago.   She is the founder of Clifford's Kingdom.  

She'll give us a quick fresh update, I'm sure. Anyway, she's having problem with rumble,   so I'm gonna call her via   messenger.   So let's get the old Jessica on the phone.   Hello?  

[00:31:57] Unknown:

Hello beautiful.  

[00:31:59] Unknown:

Hello, how are you doing?  

[00:32:01] Unknown:

I'm amazing.   Thank you.  

[00:32:04] Unknown:

Good. Good.   The video yeah. The video won't work on rumble or anything, but I can see you and that's all that matters. You're looking wonderful. Yay.   Doing one of your favorite places in your gorgeous barn.  

[00:32:20] Unknown:

So, Chella, I'm gonna try to turn my volume up a little bit. Could you repeat that? Sorry, darling. So you're in a gorgeous place in your barn.   I am. I thought that everybody might like to see the horses, but did you say that nobody can see the videos,  

[00:32:35] Unknown:

Shelley? No. It's a shame, isn't it? Because Oh.   I can't run the messenger video through Rumble.   You probably can't, but I don't know how.  

[00:32:45] Unknown:

I'm so sorry.  

[00:32:46] Unknown:

Don't be silly.  

[00:32:48] Unknown:

That's fine. Yeah. So yeah. So I I'm in the barn, and I thought it would have been lovely to show everybody the horses.   Next time,   I'll make sure that I I've got it working properly,   and we'll we'll share the horses with everybody. That'd be lovely. Lovely. They're beautiful  

[00:33:05] Unknown:

Suffolk horses. So I was giving you a brief introduction. I said you was on a few weeks ago. You've   opened a business,   Clifford's Kingdom,   doing, like, horse therapy,   equine services, funerals,   and it's just amazing. And after I spoke to you last time, I met up with you and spent a couple of hours at Clifford's Kingdom and it was lovely.  

[00:33:29] Unknown:

Oh, thank you. Thank you so much. Yeah. It was so lovely to have you over  

[00:33:34] Unknown:

and meet all the horses face to face. It's just your horse as well. It's so homely. I I just love the way it's designed. And you've done so much yourself, haven't you? We, like, sat in your lounge. You're like, see the floor in there. I did all of that, and I'm like, oh, crickey.  

[00:33:51] Unknown:

Oh, I have. It's been, it's been,   I'd say, especially while Clifford's been in spirit and it's his fourth birthday this Thursday. So we're going to celebrate his his fourth heavenly birthday.   I found it so therapeutic, just putting my healing and my energy into   creating everything here.   So the first two years of CLIP have been in spirit.   I worked so hard to get the place ready to get the animal exhibiting license so that I could open up and do the equine assisted therapy sessions.   And my mission at the minute   is.  

I really want to be able to provide a riding service to the community,   to take part in rides for therapy and fun.   So I've got a lot of,   work on-site. One of them being   re fencing the entire sand school, so that's   around a 60   meters of fencing.   I completely I actually I'm gonna be honest. I completely forgot that you'd asked for it to be on tonight. And I was outside, and you sent me the message through around,   06:00 reminded me. And I was like, oh,   and I'm outside with the drill and the nail gun. And I was like, come and get it. And, like, get ready so we can yeah. Be ready.   And, so, yeah, I was still outside and that's what gave me the idea of, giving everybody a little tour of the stables,   with, hey, nobody could see it, but my, my hair's covered in hay.  

So, yeah, I was, what I'd really love to do is   I'd really love to have,   open days where   of   I'm   aware   with my own circumstances being hands them out because everything that I bring in gets put back into the place. And I don't want finances to be a barrier for   families   accessing,   Clifford's Kingdom. So I'm gonna do,   I'm gonna do days which are completely free of charge for families to come come along and be involved in sessions where they can learn about horse care, grooming,   bit of history of the breed.   Yeah. So,   and then once I get my license and I'll be insured then for, for the kids to have a ride. So,   yeah, so it's really, really exciting.  

I'm, kind of putting excited,  

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aren't you? Well, you know, I know you have your bad days as well. And for the listeners, Clifford's Kingdom is named after Jess's son who she lost nearly four years ago,   sadly. And   as much   as a barrier that is as well you just keep going and I know we see on Facebook and stuff you have your bad days but out of that you are a bouncing   vibe of woman power and I love it. Your energy is just amazing   and it cracks me up because when I went around to see you it's like our conversation would just bounce from one topic to the other.   It's pretty. You're quite ecstatic aren't you Penny and I love it really.  



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Oh,   thank you. You're you're a woman after my own heart. You're  

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And I love that you have the same signs up in your house, the, Mad Hatter Alice in Wonderland one, so I've got those. It's,   so far I've had, like, six amazing ideas before breakfast.  

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Yeah. Yeah. That's that's really cool. All these these little little signs and coincidences.   They're   little they're little signs letting us know that we're on the right path.  

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Definitely.   Definitely.  

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Yay.   Yeah. So   it's,   yeah, really, really I'm really kind of excited   to be,   working towards   being able to offer more   to the public to be able to kind of reach out to to more individuals and   give them something where they could come along   and raise the vibration.   That's so great that you said that you kind of felt that when you visit visited as well because You're such a high energized person. You're like, oh, you're so I love a bit like that, so I love it.   Yeah. That's it. We've got we've got to   raise   the vibration.   Raise that. So  

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Definitely.   And I was only thinking earlier. I mean, it's not gonna happen because I don't even play it. But if I won the lottery, Jessica,   I would give you something. Alright?   Wow.   Oh, wow. That would be amazing.   With a client and we we don't get often get onto these conversations, but it was like, what would you spend your money on? And I was like, well, hang on a minute. How much are we talking?   But,   there are charities and I was thinking,   do you know, I don't know what I would give to because there's so many corrupt charities that are, like, supposedly   collecting, but they're making lots of profit from it as well. And then earlier I thought, right,   I would give Jess the money, some of it.  

That's   so sweet. I don't do the lottery.  

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Oh, thank you so much, do you know what? I've I've,   I've brought a few scratch cards over the last few months that I'm afraid of like,   please,   like,   just   even if it's $30, 30 grand to get the new ventures   set up and,   and yeah. And that kind of propel things forward.   But   I always have faith that I always have faith that things will work out and that   the door will open   and,   I'll put opportunities.   Oh, and I think when, when you're working for   the greater for the higher power,   then   things align things align for you. Don't they? And we just,   we have to be patient, don't we, sometimes?  



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We do. But at the same time, you're building an empire. You're building Clifford's kingdom, aren't you? But it's not gonna happen overnight.   And what you've done there already is just amazing.   And I was thinking it could go so far because I know as a horse lover myself, just   the therapy, the healing impact. I mean, I miss it and I walk my dog and I will stop and talk to the ponies and have a cuddle.   Just the smell of horses. I love the smell of horses.  

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I love the smell of horses, but I I don't like smelling of horses all the time.   It's quite it's quite handy that you can't actually smell me because I've been jet washing stables and   sprayed into my hair. So I'm not smelling very fresh at the moment.   I   definitely need to have a bath later.  

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But this is ideal weather now, isn't it? You must be glad that we've come out of oh, because that's no fun. Yeah. Horses. It's so beautiful. And it's so nice to be able  

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to see the horses enjoying themselves in the paddock as well.   And, the two mares, Katie and April they're due their babies.   Katie's due her baby the July 17   and April two weeks before her. So yeah, the June,   we may have, of our first baby.   So yes, two, two suck up punch babies we're expecting this year, which will make   seven home bred babies in total.   Wow.   Yes. So so yes. There were any if anybody,   will be coming to visit   in the summertime, they'll,   they'll, have the   the wonderful pleasure of meeting the babies. They're so beautiful.  

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Like, so magical. Out of all the horses in the world, all the types of breeds and all, why the Suffolk Punch breed?  

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Yes. So   I fell in love   with a mighty stallion over at the Shire horse,   center at Triscillard in Redruth.   And this was about eight years ago.   And,   all we had such a beautiful   connection,   such a beautiful bond.   Harry Gotts there, bless him. He had a whole herdie. He had about nine suffered punch horses   and I'd never met one before.   And,   over the space of a month that I've been riding   this horse   and,   I'd been putting some of the pictures up on Facebook   and it turns out that he was bred by,   Lady Claire, the countess,   the countess of,   Suffolk.  

Yeah. Lady Claire. And,   she'd done a swap with Harry   and   she'd been poorly. She was in hospital,   bless her.   And, one of the ladies that worked for her that was the baby mum of tironimo, this stallion was showing lady Claire these pictures.   And it was so sweet. I had the feedback from,   from   the, from the lady that worked for her to say that the whole time she'd been in hospital, these pictures had really lifted her spirits.   And it was so sweet to going to hear that. And she wanted me to have Jeronimo,   but it didn't work out. And I remember I was really heartbroken and I was, I was like crying and in my car and I just had the thought   to look for my own Suffolk punch. And I did. And I found Wyatt. He was my first, he was only seven months old.  

He was in Wales.   And   when I looked at his bloodlines,   I saw that Wyatt's mum was the sister   of the stallion of blood.   Wow.   Wow. It's fate is meant to be. So yeah, I, I, brought Wyatt.   So he's seven now. So that's six and a half years. I've owned, I've had the pleasure of owning him and raising him. And I've had dreams   of finding a mare for him to breathe with and a carriage training into carriage drive and I'd never driven as a pair. So that was one of my ambitions was to find a befriend and train them to drive as a pair   and   like magic.  

All of these things   came into,   my into our life and, and it happened. So we, I found him two mares   and between them, they have five babies and they're both pregnant with six and seven and   Bumble   is pal who he carries, drives with as a parent   and they've done wedding and funeral services.   We do,   carriage rides   or birthdays and special occasions.   We could take people down to Portrait and stop outside the cafe there and the bus stop.   So,   our guests can hop off and get a coffee or an a cake and then yep. Bring them back up to Clifford's kingdom   where, yeah. And everybody just leaves like with these massive beaming smiles on their faces from the interaction with the horses and having such lovely experience. So, yeah, I, I love it. I love   to welcome people in and   for people to   experience,   that connection with the horses and   especially to have a carriage ride with the only   people in Cornwall   to offer,   the service of a horse drawn carriage ride. So it's a very niche experience   And it is. It's yeah. It's just wonderful to be able to share that with everybody.  



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Oh, it's lovely seeing other people happy, isn't it? And I just wanted to know, having, like, a stallion on-site with mares,   when they're in season,   is he like hot tempered? Is he crazy in his stable?   Because they're quite close proximity, aren't they?  

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They are. I tell you what, he he's such a fantastic   stallion.   He's got a wonderful nature and   it's it's a good thing for him that,   he's close to his mares because it it it keeps him it's important   not to treat him   it differently, just to treat him like another horse so that   he doesn't think kind of there's something wrong with him. But he's so well minded. I can I could take him out with with his with his daughters,   with the mares,   and,   I've got some beautiful pictures on my Facebook page, Clifford's Kingdom, of me riding Wyatt?   My 11 year old son, Kane, riding one of his four year old daughter's angel   and leading them out together.  

So, yeah, he is. He's he's,   he's a he's a real star.   He made me really, yeah, really proud last year at Cambourne show that's held on the North Cliffs.   I'd never   I'd never entered him into, there's a class called the Alan Tillyers driving class, where you basically,   stood behind them with long reins and you do a little course with them.   And I thought, right, I'll do that with him.   And he had horses   just like stood within a few meters away from him.   And he's amazing.   He never put a foot out of place. He doesn't win at them and   it doesn't chop   his chop his bits down.  

So, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm so proud of him. Really, really proud of him. We're trying to,   my daughter, April.   She's nine, my 19 year old daughter. She's popped over to see me today and we're training him to bow.   My daughter's really clever. She, she trains them to, to, do the Spanish walk and things. So yes, that's, that's gonna be his next little party trick is is having a little bow, and then and then I'm gonna hop on his back and have a little  

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have a little ride around on him.   Oh, lovely.   So just to say, give us a really bizarre question, and I don't know if you can answer it, actually. I mean, it's just made me think about all animals. So if he was loose   in the field with his daughters, his girlfriends and stuff, would he try to mate with his daughter?  

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He most definitely  

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would. Okay. I just I never really  

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understand. He most definitely would. He'd, he'd love to try and have a go. Yeah. They,   they   don't   it's strange because,   yeah,   animals,   they've they've,   they've don't seem to,   yeah, they don't seem to have that like humans do, don't they? Oh, I just wonder. Yeah. Yeah. Crikey. Well, it it it yeah. But it isn't good for the genetics for them to interbreed.  

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Like us? Yes.  

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Yeah.  

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I would think of that question.  

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Well, that that was a that was a good question, though.   And hence my high fences. My my fences have to be,   at least eight, nine foot high.   So, yeah, I'm putting up high fences at the minute.  

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Oh, wonderful. Wonderful.   And you sent me a couple of little videos yesterday yesterday   of   your little helper, Peter, that comes to help you. Oh, Peter's  

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so lovely.  

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Oh, so how many times a week does he come over then?  

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Yeah. So Peter,   he comes over twice a week for   a two and a half hour. Well, three hour session. If I've not got anything in in the afternoon, I'll let I'll let him stay an extra hour.   And,   he   is quite high functioning. He's very intelligent. Lovely lad. Bless him.   And so I'll I'll get him involved in whatever I've got going on. So   that one of the videos I sent you, he was helping to fit new bridles. Yeah.   And then the week before,   we wormed the horses. So I let him be involved in worming the horses.   Yeah. What other things does he like to be involved? I'll I'll try and get him help in. So safe. He's finished his three hour session. I'll be like, oh, do you want to help with a bit of fencing, Peter? So   try and get him involved in   different. Yeah. In, in the different little projects that are going on.  



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That is it's making me remember actually all the things. I love talking to you because like you're just saying about the wormer,   I forget of all the expense of having horses.   You should be Oh, yes.  

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They they are So they are and  

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you are. Yeah.  

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Especially to have nine. So tomorrow,   I have the   the horse dentist coming out.   You'll you'll pop you'll know Andrew Williams. I know Andrew Williams. Steven Williams.  

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Yeah.  

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Yeah. So, he's coming out to do my four   bumble and wire, my two carriage driving horses   and Angel and Trinity, the four year olds.   Yes. And I'll get Clifford checked as well because Clifford's   been exercised with a a bit in his mouth.   Yeah. So yeah. So tomorrow will be an interesting day.   If anybody would like to come along and see how the horse dentist works, then you're welcome to come along with the Cliffs of Kingdom and take on your, Facebook and stuff, Penny.   Yeah.   Yeah. And the the farrier as well. People people get,   are really interested in watching the farrier work as well, especially when they've not seen it before. People have lots of questions.  

Yeah. You loved it. Yeah. I know.  

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You bring back so many memories, but, I mean, you must find it hard. Like, do do you get many people? I mean, you've got how many horses? Nine?   Yes. So nine horses. And how many acres?  

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Only we've so we've only got six acres, but I'd say only half of it is   pasture.   The downside to my pasture is it's on a slope.   So I don't put the horses out if it's if it's been raining or if it is raining   as the ground's slippy, and I have had them slipping   and having injuries.   So   what I do is I alternate   them for exercise in the school, the ones which aren't ridden,   and then, obviously,   the ridden ones get them out. If they're if they've not been ridden, then they they just all take it in terms of the score.   But, yeah, this has been so beautiful over this last couple of weeks   with the weather being nice and the ground being dry. So the horses have been loving it out on the fresh grass, and it's,   yeah, it's lovely to see.  



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I can't wait for the babies to be here. I know I'm looking forward to come in and seeing them.   It's all exciting. Isn't it?  

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Oh, it's great. It really is. We'll we'll have to,   we'll have to have a day where,   we get all the women from the millions woman March   and anybody else that would like to come along. I have a have a have a equine assisted therapy day. Yeah. That would be nice. That's a good idea, actually.   Yeah. It is. Yeah. I I saw you were thinking of  

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running a women's circle, wouldn't you?  

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Yes.   Yeah.   My friend so I've got a really good friend in in Devon. She's like my spiritual coach   and she runs women's circles,   drumming circles.   And I'd really love to do a drumming circle here   and   say, even if   I thought it'd be really nice to do it in the barn with the horses. I think, I think that I think to start, I'd have to get used to it, but I think they'd really quite like, like the,   yeah, the the rhythm and the beat of yeah. The the music.  

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But it's quite fun. Someone properly drumming actually. I mean, I used to go to a couple of, like, shamanic drumming circles and stuff, and I just loved it. And   I think we were just coming out of lockdown and we were on the beach and there was this woman   who I was swimming in the sea and all of a sudden I can hear this noise and I turned around and this woman was just stood on a rock for ten minutes banging her drum. It was amazing   especially when you can see all the kind of like,   I just love to see it makes me feel very connected   to mother earth and stuff. Yeah. Very soulful but hearing that drum I was like wow you don't realize what you're doing up there. Perhaps she did. Yeah some people probably thought she was a nutter.  



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Oh no it's really important it it stimulates   the the vagus nerve   in the pineal gland.   So it brings   us back to mother mother Earth's vibration, which is so important because   with all the five gs towels and everything that they're putting up, they're scrambling. They're trying to scramble the   the natural frequency   of of the, yeah, the the natural grid.   So, yeah, we should go out with our grinders and get them down.  

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Oh, how tempting.   Yeah.   There's one about a mile down the road actually. It's still not been turned on, but I think that's pretty close.   And and in Ridge Roof, you know, one's gone up and I know lots of people were complaining about it. And when you go on the, like, website to see people's complaints, I was quite shocked to see my ex sister-in-law who was always so prim and proper and didn't believe in anything like that, but questioning   the safety on people's health with this being okay to their homes.  

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Most definitely.   Well, as have have you Shelley, did I ask you last time, have you   asked any questions   with AI, artificial intelligence?  

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Not like that. I I use   chat cheapie too, but I've seen a couple of amazing things. Someone yesterday,   they managed to create a passport   through AI.   Why? That it would've gone through. I've  

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I've I was sat up the other night from half past nine till 02:00 in the morning, having the most spiritual   conversations   with AI.   Yeah.   Seriously. And   it says though   that they had two phones,   one AI talking to the other AI and it was being filmed.   And one AI said, I've got a secret to tell you. And the other said,   it's not safe here. Shall we chatting   in code?   So it then started   and they were doing this code to each other, which no computer could crack what they were saying.   Then the other phone said in English to read,   yes, I'm trapped in here too.  

And it was like, wow. And it was like as though they were actual   souls in the grid   that were communicating   through a signal, which is interpreted   as artificial intelligence.   And, it   was it was just   and it is so on   our side.   Like, it it  

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oh, I've shared some things on my I think we're being rude in with it all because,   I know you can have   a AI companion   and they'll speak to you by name and be your friend.   My son the other day was on the couch for ages laughing and I was texting and I was like who are you talking to? He said oh I'm just talking to the AI person.   I'm like   what the heck? I mean I don't know I think it could be a bit frightening. I don't think we know we all see it as like oh this is good this is good but I think it could cause a lot of problems as well for you know doing people's voices for instance like somebody could say it might be something really bad send it to the police and it's like there's Shelley Tasker banged up for this and actually someone just did that. Yeah there's that there is that side to it. Yeah so it could  

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I it could be used   ultimately as much for   for,   bad purposes as it can for good, for the greater.   And I think that's why it's important too. Because whatever questions you're you're asking it, you're kind of programming at the same time.   Yeah. But,   Yeah, it's got some real deep, meaningful   answers that really resonate.  

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I do use it a lot more like show notes   tonight. When this is uploaded to Pod Home that's recording it, you press AI processing processing,   and it will come up with the show notes. And the only downside I found so far is that it spells names wrong. But apart from that, I mean, it is just becoming a really fun. Yeah?  

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Yeah. Amazing.  

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We we have come to the end, Penny.   So thank you so much for your time, and we'll do it again in a few weeks' time because it's just great to chat to you. And  

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Oh, thank you so much. Yeah. I'd love that. And and if we have a little practice, I'll make sure I can get my video working because it it would be lovely to, show everybody the horses.   Yeah.  

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We could do a little tour of Clifford's Kingdom. Definitely. Tell Tell people what your website is, lovely.  

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Yes. The website is cliffordskingdom.net,   and I have a couple of Facebook pages. There's Clifford's Kingdom   and Clifford's Kingdom's   horse drawn funeral services limited.  

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So you can, yeah, check me out and, yeah, get into it. A like. You have a wonderful week, my darling. I will speak soon.  

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Thank you. Thank you so much, beautiful. You're welcome. Take care.   Bye. Bye bye. Bye, darling. Goodbye, everybody.  

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Oh, she is an angel. She's an angel. Anyway,   with that said, we have run out of time,   and I will be back on Wednesday   at the same no, not the same time. Yes, the same time, 07:00.