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Women's Hour broadcasts live every Sunday at 7:00p.m. uk time. 

Join us every Sunday at 7pm uk time for Women’s Hour, the show that celebrates and amplifies the voices of women from all walks of life. Each week, we dive into a rich blend of topics, from personal stories and current affairs to health, culture, and the challenges women face in today's world. With expert guests, thought-provoking discussions, and inspiring interviews, Women’s Hour offers a platform for empowerment, education, and connection. Whether you're tuning in for insightful advice, a dose of inspiration, or just a moment to feel heard, Women’s Hour is here to celebrate you.


Welcome to another episode of Womens Hour, where we dive into the fascinating world of spiritual mediums. This week, I had the pleasure of speaking with Alison Winters, a renowned medium from Cornwall. We explored her journey into the spiritual realm, starting from her childhood experiences with spirits and imaginary friends, to her development as a medium in her thirties. Alison shared poignant stories of personal loss and how these experiences shaped her spiritual path.

Alison recounted her first encounter with a spiritualist church, where she felt an immediate sense of belonging. This pivotal moment led her to embrace her calling as a medium, providing comfort and hope to those seeking messages from the spirit world. We discussed the importance of evidence in mediumship and the profound impact of receiving messages from loved ones who have passed.

Our conversation also touched on the challenges and responsibilities of being a medium, including the need for continuous learning and development. Alison emphasized the significance of maintaining a connection with spiritualist churches and giving back to the community.

We delved into the intriguing world of physical circles, where participants experience the physical manifestations of spirits. Alison described the incredible sensations and phenomena that occur during these sessions, highlighting the profound love and energy felt when spirits are present.

Additionally, Alison shared insights into her work as a soul midwife, supporting individuals and their families during the end-of-life transition. She explained the holistic and spiritual aspects of this role, emphasizing the importance of providing comfort and guidance during this significant life event.

Whether you're curious about mediumship, interested in spiritual development, or seeking comfort from the spirit world, this episode offers a wealth of insights and experiences from a seasoned medium. Join us as we explore the mysteries of the spirit world with Alison Winters.

[00:00:00] Unknown:

Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Shelley Tasker Show coming live out of radiosoapbox.com.   It's good to have your company.   Today's date is Sunday, 26th   of   January,   2025.   I've just gotten that right. Yes. Right.   So no intro music, no outro   music. I don't think this is even gonna go out on Rumble tonight because something's just popped up to say it's not working.   I'm basically trying to bring video into the stream, and I've basically wasted about probably twelve hours of my life, I reckon, in the last week   trying to avoid paying a hundred pounds for a piece of software.  

Anyway, I'm gonna have to do it.   So do apologize for that. But,   and Joe sends her apologies this evening because she's been called to an urgent farmer's meeting,   and she's chosen those farmers over me again.   Who can blame her? Anyway, it's all for the cause, isn't it? But captain Joe will be back next week.   Anyway, I have an awesome guest this evening.   All of my guests are always awesome anyway, but this awesome woman I've known, oh, crikey, a long time. Very long time now.   Anyway   so this young woman is the all awesome Alison Winters,   and she is a well known medium in Cornwall and surrounding areas.  

I'm gonna have a chat about her journey and all the things about being a spiritual medium. Good evening, miss Alison Winters.  

[00:01:30] Unknown:

Well, hello, Shelley.  

[00:01:33] Unknown:

How are you doing, my lovely?  

[00:01:35] Unknown:

Oh, alright.   Yes. Bit cold, but, I'm fine. I'm nice and cozy in my studio, so I'm alright.  

[00:01:42] Unknown:

Lovely. In and out of the and the rain, it keeps coming and going, doesn't it? Wow. It's a bit wild out there tonight. A bit wild, but nice and cosy.   Anyway, we we always have to start with a bit of weathery talk, don't we? That's just what us Brits do. But,   how about you? Lovely. About you. So tell us tell us how you got onto your spiritual journey   right from the beginning. We've got an hour.   Wow. What got you into the whole   thing?  

[00:02:12] Unknown:

What brought me into it? Well, I mean, I suppose I could I could sort of say what any medium says, you know, that,   I was aware of spirit from when I was small. You know?   I thought it was quite normal   to see spirit and talk to   people.   I had lots of imaginary friends, and I preferred to be on my my own than playing with the other kids.   But, obviously, I was weird from quite a young age, really,   when I think about it.   And,   growing up, you know, there was things  

[00:02:44] Unknown:

Hello?  

[00:02:45] Unknown:

On and things like that. It was just weird stuff that happened   throughout my childhood. But in my teens years, it sort of left me for a while.   I didn't really have anything really happen until I got to my   twenties just before I got married,   and I saw my grandfather at the bottom of the stairs as clear as day.   He didn't say anything. He just smiled at me, and it was like he was blessing me before my wedding, really.   So that was really lovely.   And then, like, there was a few odd things that happened, like, when we moved to our first flat.   I used to see people walking in and out of the kitchen quite often, and it used to be on a Sunday evening, which was really weird.  

And then I I found out that, actually, after that, that we were living next door to a spiritualist church.   So it was probably spirit going in and out. That's yummy. But I was actually seeing go going in and out of the church,   giving messages probably.   So it was yeah. There was a buildup there,   and it wasn't until I moved back to Cornwall with my family   in 02/4,   it was. Yeah.   That things started to escalate a lot more   with spirit.   So,   but before that, I'd had to go through a lot of stuff, you know.   I lost children   and obviously, the pain of losing children is is is hard to bear.  

And,   I I went through some dark periods, you know. I think sometimes you just have to be in those dark valleys to appreciate the view from the top of the mountain as I call it.   And,   I had to go through that stuff I feel, in my life because I know I developed quite late.   I was in my thirties when I developed it. But it wasn't until I moved back to Cornwall that spirit picked it all up and there was stuff going on in the house and I kept seeing a lady that used to live here and it it was like and I was chatting to a friend of mine, and she said, oh, she's not oh, you know, I'm really into all this. And, she said, should we should we go to the spiritual's church down the road? And I'm like, I I wouldn't I'd like to go, but I don't wanna go on my own. And she's like, no. No. We'll go together.   So   as soon as I walked in and I went in there and, I I sat for the the service, it was like I'd come home. You know? It was like it was where I meant I was meant to be, you know, what I was meant to be doing in my life. It just felt right.  

And,   yeah. She she it wasn't for her, and she decided it wasn't for her. But I loved it. And,   my first message came from a lady called Sue Searle. You remember Sue? I do. Yes.   And,   she told me that my babies were okay, and my nan had them in her arms in spirit. And it was the most wonderful message, and I thought, wow. What   a beautiful job, you know, to be able to give people that hope, you know,   and that that comfort,   you know. And and that brought me so much comfort and and hope to know that that my babies were being looked after in the spirit world. And I came home, and I was just so excited about it. And   it was just like this this   big hole had been filled in my life. You know? Yeah. And,   and I remember meeting this lady called Shelley Tasker.  

And, we sat next to each other, didn't we? And I I talked about the message I had from Sue, and you were like, oh, you should join our circle, and you should go to Jackie White's circle. And, you know, and I was like, what's the circle? I've been there. And, before I knew it, I was sat in my car outside this lady's house in in Goonhavan.   I'm thinking, what am I doing? What am I doing here? I don't know.   And   I went in and next minute, I'm meditating and doing all these things. And and next minute, we're doing all these exercises and all this stuff's coming out of my mouth. And I'm thinking, where is this coming from? I've no idea.   And it was spirit well, it was almost like they were just waiting. They were waiting for me to open that door   for them to come and work with me. And,   I've never looked back really.  



[00:06:42] Unknown:

So so how many years is that now, Ally?   Oh gosh. Twenty years. Twenty years. Wow. Wow. Yeah. And I mean, presumably, most people would think when you're growing up, if you saw spirits walking in and out of your room, you would get quite freaked out. But he was obviously  

[00:06:59] Unknown:

quite intrigued with it all. I know. So I just I never thought anything of it. You know? I just thought it was normal. I just thought other people saw them. Do you know what I mean?   I never really thought of anything. You know? Yeah. Yeah. It didn't scare me at all.  

[00:07:13] Unknown:

Interesting. Because my uncle lived down the road from where I live now, actually. And   I think that they discovered later on that his house was buried on an old war memorial grave, but he would sit there in the evenings, and he would get a spirit walking through his lounge. And he was petrified.   And he would wake up in the night and say to his wife, hey. Can't you see them? Can you hear them? And she's like, no. No. He thought he was going mad at 1, but they actually had to move house over it. But you would have loved it. You would have stayed there.  

[00:07:45] Unknown:

Well, the the lady that, I think she was checking us out. The lady used to live in this house that we're in now. She's very quiet now. We don't I don't see her at all now. I think she's just happy, you know. Yeah. She's happy with us, I think.   I think she was checking this out to begin with. Did you know what I mean? It was like, who are you? Why are you in my house? You know, it was sort of that feeling, but it yeah. We had lots of stuff going on. It was just yeah. The first night we moved in, you know, there was weird stuff happening.   Yeah. I mean, I I could feel someone stood over me when we were in the bed. You know? It was almost like someone was looking at me. Crikey.  

You I could hear people walking up and down the landing, and the girls were very small at the time. So I know that they couldn't get out of their beds or their cots or whatever. You know what I mean? So,   and there was footsteps up and down the stairs, and we just we had a porch, which if you don't know what a port is,   the first day we moved in, I had an ornament that a friend had bought me from Yuki, which she'd been on holiday, and I'd lost this ornament before we moved. And I didn't I couldn't find it anywhere in the house at all.   And,   the day we moved into this house, I came down,   and there was not a box   opened or nothing. And this ornament was on the mental piece   Oh. In in house. And I thought, where did that come from? You know? Yeah. Yeah. It's like, I couldn't find that, and I I swear to god that it completely gone. It completely vanished from the other house completely. And I I I looked everywhere, and I packed everything in that house, and I know that I couldn't find it. And then all of a sudden, it appeared on the mental piece   in our new house. Yeah. Lovely. Like,   hello?  

Yeah.   We can do this. I mean, you know what spirit can do. They're amazing.  

[00:09:28] Unknown:

It is amazing. And, like, we'll reach on later a bit. I've I've been a bit,   dubious, should we say, about my beliefs. And I'm not saying I don't, you know, believe at all because I will always it's been a massive part of my life. But also venturing on to, like, Christianity and stuff, people think it's wicked, Ally. They think it's wicked. They think it's the devil.  

[00:09:49] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:09:51] Unknown:

Yeah. I don't know.   The devil's work. And I think, well, if they need to connect with us as as much as ours to connect with them, and they miss us as much as we miss them. So if they wouldn't talk to me otherwise, would they? No. No. I think I think you're right. And the amount of healing that messages can bring about, how can you say that that's the devil's work? But then people say the devil works in mysterious ways and, you know, he's always there to catch us out.   But, you know, that's just a theory, isn't it? But then that would be denying my whole twenty odd years, myself of sitting in circle and stuff like that.   So I don't diss it, but I did go through a time when I was a little bit unsure and thinking, am I cavorting with the devil?  

But, that's just a thought. But, anyway, yes. So you got rep in a port and stuff,   and you're going to circle. And it it wasn't long before you were up working, was it? And when I say working people, I mean, she was active in the spiritualist churches going for it. And I I can remember your first demonstration   now.   Oh. And it's not an easy thing, is it, Ally?  

[00:10:58] Unknown:

No. It's terrifying. Absolutely terrifying. Still get terrified now when you take the Oh, god. Yeah. Yeah. Do you? Yeah. I mean, I must admit. I I always say that, like, Jackie would say to us, you know, the day you stop getting nervous is the day you should stop doing it. Because that's the day when you don't care anymore.   And Yeah. I I, you know, I the reason why I get I get, I suppose, nervous about working is because I wanna do my best for spirit. You know? I I wanna be giving those messages outright. You know? I don't I don't wanna be giving out the wrong evidence. You know? Or or or bringing someone through and then nobody understanding anything. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah.   So,   yeah, I I get nervous because I just wanna do them justice. You know? I wanna give them a voice. You know? And,   yeah.  

I always get nervous. Always. And even now, I mean, the hundreds and hundreds of reasons I've done over the years, I still get nervous.  

[00:11:54] Unknown:

Well, that's a good thing. And musicians say that as well before they take the stage. It is a good thing to be nervous. Yeah. But I, on the other hand as well, I was saying, oh, no. I can you know? But it it wasn't my path. I got everything I needed from it. And for you, it's Yeah. It's a gift you've got. It's something you work at, and you're compelled to serve the spirit world.  

[00:12:13] Unknown:

Yeah. And I think as well, I always say, you know, if if if people sit in circle and then they go off to work and, you know, and they say, oh, I've learned enough. And I think you never ever ever stop learning. You never stop developing as a medium.   I'm   the spirit are always changing the way they work with me constantly   and teaching me new things. You know?   And it's like, well, I never thought of it that way before or they've never worked with me like that before or, you know, that's   new. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, it's cons we're constantly evolving, aren't we, as as spiritual beings. We're constantly evolving, and we're here to to move forward. And that's what we're here for, aren't we, to learn? And Definitely.  

[00:12:55] Unknown:

And I mean, you say that, like, growing up, you were,   you know, you had imaginary friends, and I should imagine now that that was spirit. Because lots of people say that, don't they? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, yeah, just because, well, we can't see them, it doesn't mean they're there, so to speak.  

[00:13:12] Unknown:

Yeah. Definitely.   Like I say, it's,   you know, just because our loved ones have have gone to, you know, they've trans they've they've made a transition, haven't they, to another to another plane, another energy, you know? And it's just like it's like, you know, everything's made up of energy, aren't we? We it energy just goes goes somewhere else. That's all it does. It just goes somewhere else. And I say to people, you know, our bodies is like a car,   you know, it it it gets worn out, bits fall off,   you know. And and when it's worn out and eventually, you know, it it it stops, we just get out of that vehicle, don't we? That's what we do. We get out of the vehicle and we get into another 1 or we move on. You   know?  

And and that's that's to me, that's what I I see   the body as, you know, as a vehicle.  

[00:14:03] Unknown:

And it's just a means of getting around while we're here, isn't it? Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I I think you're right. And I think it gives you hope as well. I mean, you know, after this has been a big part of my life, obviously, for a long time.   And when my nan well, my nan passed away, I don't know, six, seven months ago now Yeah. And she always said,   I don't believe in nothing. When you die, you die. Well, if that's the case, what are you worried for? Because you won't know any different, will you? No. But it is nice   to have that feeling, like, sometimes I think, wow. It'd be quite exciting that thought of when you pass over.  

Mhmm. Because I believe that, you know, all my old dogs and horses bugger the people. Yeah.   They're all gonna come run into me, and, we'll take off where we left off.  

[00:14:47] Unknown:

Of course they will. Yeah. They'll all come to you, ain't they? All the people that you've loved and, you know, and all the animals that you've loved as well. They'll all be there.   And it's,   yeah, I I think it it's it's quite sad if you haven't got a belief or a faith. I I I think,   personally,   but then everyone to their own, aren't they? Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Everybody believes what they wanna believe. And I think, you know,   sometimes peep people will say, well, you know, he doesn't believe in it. I think, well, okay. I'm not gonna force anybody, anything on anybody. You know?  

[00:15:20] Unknown:

And I think they find it when they need to. You know? And Yeah. I think I think you're right. And people quite often, don't they? They lose someone,   and it's at that point, it's like Yeah. Oh my god. And then somebody says about speaking with a medium.   But we gotta be careful, haven't we? Because there's lots of people out there that call themselves mediums.   Yeah. And we know over the years, you would go to church and somebody would say, I've got your grandmother here. Well, we've all got a dead grandmother in spirit, haven't we? Give us the evidence.   And Yep. Some people, they were thrilled with that. But then when you start learning   and you go and watch these other mediums, you're thinking,   that's that's not evidence, really, is it? No. It's almost like No. Yeah. No. Like I say, evidence is key, isn't it? You know?  



[00:16:06] Unknown:

You know, what  

[00:16:07] Unknown:

what what was her name? What did she die with? You know? Yeah. Yeah. What personality was she? You know? Because their their personality doesn't change. Do you know what I mean? No. No. If they were grumpy where they're here, then they'd be grumpy coming back, aren't they? Sort of. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, if it wasn't a thing, what's interesting I mean, I know these there's schools for all of these things, but, like, they are for Findlay College and stuff like that. You know, people go. They study. They're with   high high high class, I wanna say, but brilliant teachers.  

Yep. Yep. They have weekends away to learn and to grow, but there's opportunities out there to learn more.   Yeah. The whole church thing I mean, I don't I haven't been for a very long time, I think, since COVID. I've been to a couple of your evenings that you run.   Mhmm. What what are the churches like these days? Are they still bustling? Or  

[00:16:57] Unknown:

Yeah. There's there's there's still going. They're still quite well attended,   when when I've been worked at churches. I mean, obviously, there's there's a few of them that, you know, are not so well attended now and,   you know, they're sort of they've had to cut down their services and what they what they provide. Do you know what I mean? And I think they are struggling slightly,   some of them,   which is a shame, really, isn't it? You know, that that that they can't keep those doors open in some places. But   because, obviously, if it wasn't for the churches, we wouldn't have been able to go out there and do what we do, would we, really?  

No.   Yeah. It had obviously, it was classed as a as a as a religion so that we could practice it. So but, yeah, it we we shouldn't forget where we started from though. You know? I always think that.   I always like to give back to the churches if I can, and   I I try and give my my time back. I know that, obviously, I don't always have a lot of time, but, you know, I do try and work in even if it's just   1 service a year for each church, you know, I'll I'll try and do that if I can.  

[00:18:01] Unknown:

Because it's giving back and it's just giving back. It is. It is. And and it's funny because I think there were lots of things. And there was somebody that I spoke to a while ago, and he did his first few radio shows with me.   And now when he goes on to talk about certain things, I mean, they get thousands of views and stuff like that. And I said to him a while ago, I said, so you're gonna come back and do a radio show with me again and update? And he said and I'm sure he wasn't joking. He said, oh, I don't do it now unless I know there's gonna be thousands of listeners. And I just thought, what? Oh. I thought, don't forget where you started from. Don't forget the little people.   No. Because I I think doing this job as well, you wanna make contacts with people. And, you know, there's some people out there with big names, but, like, they go to the people that have got massive followings and stuff like that. And,  

[00:18:46] Unknown:

yeah, be humble. You're not too good for anybody, really. No. You've got to you've got to stay grounded, and I think that's really important to know that. Like I say, you you you you came from these places. You know? Yeah. And I I think that that's that's that's something that,   Stephen Holbrook does quite a lot. Bless him.   He never forgets the churches, you know, even though he's done cruise ships and massive theatres and whatever, he always does the churches, you know. He'll go and do a little church, you know. And,   and also, like,   Tracy will go and do church as well. TJ Higgs, she'll she'll go and do a church as well. Do you know? Because it's important to give give back sometimes. You know? And I think you don't you shouldn't forget where you started from.  



[00:19:29] Unknown:

No. And I really important, you know, for mediums to to do that, really. Most definitely. And it's good for you as well because you go out, you do a gig, so to speak, and then people will be like, oh, wow. She was good. Who is this woman? Can I get a private reading?  

[00:19:45] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. It it it puts you out there a little bit more, doesn't it, as well? You know, people can see.   Like I say, I must admit, I I I love doing demonstration work, but I but I prefer my 1 to 1 work. I love doing my 1 to ones. I'm really passionate about my 1 to ones   because it's that it's that   private time with someone, you know, giving them that beautiful connection. And,   yeah, I I I really think that's special. And,   I don't do a lot of these spiritual fairs and things like that, you know, doing media. Because to me that I've I've I've personally, for me, I would feel like a battery hen just sitting there constantly doing 1 after another after my do you know what I mean? Yeah. And it takes your energy, doesn't it? Tuning and stuff like that. I want people to come and have a special experience. Do you know what I mean? And a and a 1 to 1. And it's a very to me, reading is a very personal thing. You know?   You know, in this space here that I work from, you know, it's it's it's a it's a private space. It's a healing space,   you know, and people come and they say when they go, I feel like I've had some healing while I've been here, you know.  

And I think that's what it's about, isn't it? It's about being able to have a cry if they want to and not not feel embarrassed in front of other people. Do you know what I mean? And,   I'm not knocking at the mediums that do that. If they they wanna do shows and things like that, that's fine. And I have done it in the past myself. Do you know? Yeah. But I prefer to do my private sittings in private. Do you know what I mean? Because I think   spirits say more. Do you know?  

[00:21:14] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think I think it's They can't really say too much personal information, can they? I'm sure sometimes you've had it and you're like, well, I can't really say that.  

[00:21:23] Unknown:

Yeah.   Yeah. I mean, obviously, because, you know, when you're working platform, you've you've gotta have decorum. You know, you've gotta be careful what you say. You you, you know, you've you've you've got some,   yeah, you've got a duty of care, really.   You   know, for what you say to people from the platform.   I've seen some shocking heard some shocking things over the years.   So, yeah, which I won't go into.  

[00:21:47] Unknown:

No. No. No. But, well, I think when you are a working medium as well, you do of course, you judge people. You're you're always judging people and how they're working, either how good they are or things they could touch up on, and it makes you reflect on yourself, doesn't it?  

[00:22:00] Unknown:

I think yeah. I mean, I'm I'm always for what you do, the mediums work because, you know, like, let you see. I mean, I'm a world's worst critic. You know, I'll get up there and work, and I pull myself to bits afterwards.   I think, oh, god. You could have done that better, or why did you say that like that? You know? Or or whatever. But,   it's all a learning curve. It's always a learning curve. And then you see other mediums work and you think, oh, I like that phrase. Oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna use that. I'm gonna you put it in your back pocket, you know, and say that. And you think, oh, I like the way he phrased that. I thought that was really nice.   And, like, just certain things that people say, you know, and you and you think, oh, I love the way they said that.  

And I think it it is important to watch other people work. And fair play to them at the end of the day, who we'd pick people apart?   They're doing it. They're doing it. Exactly.  

[00:22:47] Unknown:

Yeah. You know? And that's that's amazing in itself, innit? It takes a lot of balls. Yes. It does. It wasn't for me.   Yeah. Definitely. It wasn't it wasn't really wasn't for me. Yeah.   But I enjoyed my time. I learned a lot. And, again, I believe that's a lot of my beliefs are from the the teaching we had, and we had a bloody good teacher, didn't we, miss Jackie White, international medium.  

[00:23:10] Unknown:

We did. We did.  

[00:23:11] Unknown:

You you you were brilliant. You really did. You. Yeah. But it's it wasn't my calling, Ali. It wasn't my calling. No. I know. You know? And I look at you. Here you are twenty years on, and, you know, we've become great friends through it. And, you know, I'm god godmother to your children and stuff, and it's it's wonderful.   It's It's wonderful when, you were there. You had a calling and, you saw it through. I think there is something you go and watch and when you're young, you're like, oh my god. I wanna be able to do that. How are they doing that? And, you know, I went to the spiritualist church from the age of 8 years old, and it was a tiny little room upstairs in a building,   But I loved it. I was brought up with it all from an early age and weird meetings around to the house because we had strange things going on and stuff like that. So, yeah, it was just always brought in. Yeah. I was brought in my beliefs.  



[00:23:56] Unknown:

Definitely. So explain  

[00:23:58] Unknown:

to the listeners how you connect then.   How do you make that connection to spirit?   Well, I mean, what? When you first start off, you know, if we if I was Yeah. I mean, if you if you were teaching now, let's have a a little lesson with Ally.  

[00:24:14] Unknown:

Well, if if if you I I the key   to working with spirit is to still the whispering mind, you know, to still your mind, really,   and move your mind to that space where they are. You know? Mhmm. So it's meditation   is a real key to that.   And we work on that quite a lot when we we teach with with spirit. And I think everyone's got that ability to to connect to spirit. We've all got it.   It's just that we just some people are a little bit more enhanced than others are. Do you know what I mean?   And it's just tuning you in. It basically, what you're using is your intuition, basically. You know that bit when, you know, when you when you feel like,   you know, when something you feel is not right, you know, your intuition is telling you it's not right, isn't it? You know, your stomach, your gut feeling feeling. Yeah. It's that fight or flight syndrome, isn't it? You get in your stomach. And and you sort of feel, you know, this feels right. This feels wrong. You know?  

So, basically, what we're doing is we're amplifying that by what not like 100, but 200 or 300. You know? We're we're amplifying it. So the first thing I would we would   do would be to,   get you to work on your own energy and to feel each other's energy because we've all got energy fields around us, haven't we? You know? We've got auric fields. So what we would do, we would get you to do exercises where you would, you know, stretch your auras and and blend into each other's auras so you feel it. And it's almost like   when you when you actually start to feel someone's aura, it feels quite tickly, like electric. It's a really weird sort of thing. And you can do it with your own hands. You can move your hands together, and you start to feel that sort of prickly energy, and that's your own energy field. Did you know?  

So it's understanding each other's energy fields.   Blending that energy into, say, someone else's,   energy field. So,   basically, we would start off with with the energy,   working with energy.   And then we would talk about the the chakra system and our, you know, our energy systems and, where that all comes from,   which we won't go into all that, but we would we would go into all that.   And then we would then   start to make,   I suppose, basic connections with psych like,   psychometrizing   objects and things like that. So, basically, you're just picking up an object and starting to   hold it, you know, in your energy field and start to just say the first thing that comes into your head. It might be something really stupid.  



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You know? It's amazing how accurate   that is, isn't it? And, I mean, for you listeners out there, I suggest at the moment, like, rub the palms of your hands together Yeah. Frantically. I'm doing it now. Yeah. And then, like, very slowly pull your hands apart, and you should.   I I can feel it now. And it and it's fascinating because Darren doesn't feel anything with the tuning forks. Or I've always tried, and he's like, no. I can't feel anything. And I suppose for some people, it's really they're not in tune. They don't feel, but you can feel it.  

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And I remember some of the exercises that we used to do, like people walking up behind you. Yeah. And you would tell them to stop when you feel them to step inside your energy center. That's that's that's 1 of the energy exercises we would do. You know? You get them to stand with their back to them, and then they walk into your energy field, and they put their hand up when they feel it. And you know when someone stood behind you, don't you, in your energy? You just feel it. You know they're there. It's almost like your hair wants to stand up on end, didn't it? You just feel Yeah. Yeah. And it I mean, and when we're working   in a psychic level, basically, all we're doing is we're blending our energy into the per the living person's energy in front of us. That's what we're doing. And when we're working with the spirit world, all we're doing is we're blending our energy backwards, and we're asking spirit to step into our awareness.  

So, basically, we're we're psychically reading the spirit world, if you see what I mean. So all it is is that it's an expansion of your own energy. That's what what's what we do, and that's what we would teach you to do is to expand that energy field.   And   the key to that is is clearing your own mind out. You know? Whether you know, everybody   everyone's different. You know? Some people,   can meditate and clear their minds out. Some people,   you know, have to go and do something else like walking or,   for me, I do power ups. So I've got a power up song that gets me up in that energy. Do you know what I mean? So it's almost like a calling card to spirit to say Oh, what's what's your song, Ally?   Sorry? What's your song? What's your go to song? Lots of songs. I've got lots of power songs.  

The 1 that I played to,   the circle when I do the power up, it's ACDC.   Oh my god.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thunderstruck.   Absolutely amazing song, really loud because it's energy. You see? It brings in the energy.   And it it it it it sort of just amplifies   my energy field.   And it's like, I just I'm I'm ready to work. I'm ready. I'm I'm because I work on quite a high fast vibrational energy.   It's it works well for me, but it might not work well for other people. Do you know what I mean?   Mhmm. Some people have to to meditate,   whereas I just do my power and up.  

But the key is to to whatever it is to get yourself in that place of ready being ready to work. So   clearing out the mind, so meditation,   mindfulness, whatever you wanna call it, is a key, really. You know? And that's the place to start, really, and,   and to to to work on yourself, really. You know? I think you have to be in the right place mentally as well   to to be able to to be able to be a channel for spirit. You know?   Because I think sometimes when we've got a lot of stuff going on, that does cloud us a bit. You know? Yes. Yes. And and dealing with with that,   as well. So that's really important to get ourselves or or being being well as well. You know? You need to be well when you sit and when you're working. You know? It's important.  

Definitely. If if I'm not well, I won't I won't do a sit in. I'll say to people, I'm sorry. I'm not I wanna be at my best, and I'm not at my best. Yeah.  

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And, I mean, you've taken a little bit of a backward step. You're doing a little bit less, aren't you? Because you were doing I am. So many readings, and you've got to look after yourself.  

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You do. And I think you've just gotta be careful because if you get burnout, then you're no good to anybody, aren't you? Do you want me? No. No. So yeah. It's important. So I think as you were saying, the first thing to do really is understand your own energy,   and connecting with other people's energy.   And then, obviously, just working with small objects, things like that. Just just picking up just the things that you'll get you'll get with those objects, you know. It could be somebody might give you a watch of a deceased person. You know? So you might start picking up things about that person.   You know? Or it might be, you know, something they just kept they kept in their handbag. You know? Like a purse or something.  

That's got their energy on it. It, that you might start picking up stuff like, you know, you know, I'm just I'm feeling like there was,   something to do with Wednesday. Was there a lot of, you know, did you use did you pay out a lot of money on Wednesday? Do you know what I mean? You know, there might be a big bill that you had to pay. Do you know what I mean? Or something.   But you you you'll start to pick up stuff like that. And from little things like that, it just starts to grow, and you use that as a basis, really.   So you're working we work on the psychic level first,   and we start to work on that. And colors colors are really important as well because,   I try and encourage the students to work with color too,   and what what a color represents.  

You know?   So to me, I if I get green and it like, if I I feel a green around somebody, you know, I feel there's a lot of healing because, obviously, to me, that's the heart chakra. So I feel that they need a lot of emotional healing.   Or yellow to me is a as is a learning color. You know? So I know that if I see yellow   in some in their energy, that it's that that they're undertaking study or there's something new coming up for them. Do you know what I mean? So Yeah.   So I get the students to sort of work on their colors and what that color means to them because it'll mean something different to everybody.   You know? And we all work differently, don't we? We don't want everybody to be carbon copies of each other. We wanna work the way we wanna work. Do you know?  

And some people will get the information different to others. But we tend to work from what we call a cert form formula, which you probably remember from Jackie's.   Never forgotten. We work on and when we start working with spirit, we we start to when we blend our energy with spirit, you know, we we start to ask the questions of spirit. Are you a male or a female? You know?   And working with that energy. Is it an older gentleman? Is it a younger gentleman who, you know,   what what's what's your what's your characters like? You know? Were you were you, a really nice guy? Were you grumpy? Do you know what I mean?   You know, what was your personality like? What did you pass with? You know, that's a really important 1,   because that can clinch the message, can't it, anywhere? You know, if you know your granddad passed with a heart attack, then, obviously, that that's an important piece of information.  

And then there's the the evidence which you bring through,   which is like he, you know, he worked wherever he worked.   I don't know if they I don't know. He's a cold man. Whatever.   And, yeah,   you've got that energy coming in and then it's basically the reason why they're coming back because spirit will come back. They always come back. You know? There's always a reason why they're there.   There's always a reason. There's always a message. You know? So it's about doing that. And we try to keep them to that point and then tying up the loose ends. So it's about  

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keeping to a formula. That's what we try to teach. You know? And that's like I'm explaining to the listeners, like, if he was gonna go to a spiritual church, like, lots of mediums   everybody works differently, don't they? But under the spiritualist national union, we were taught the CERT method, which is what you're talking about now.   Yeah. You wouldn't go direct unless you really felt that you're like, oh, that lady in the fourth row, I really need to go to her. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I've got no people that can go direct as long as they give the evidence.   No. No. You know? But but the way that you're working is is like, I've got a gentleman here, blah blah blah. Then you're waiting for somebody, a few hands, and loads of hands is better than 1, isn't it? You wanna narrow it, but you're trying to narrow it down to who is this message  

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for. Then the message gets to the person that is needing it. Yeah. You know? Yeah. That that that that can understand it all. You know?   Yeah. Because,   yeah, there's no yes. I I don't I don't like it when mediums force messages on people. I think that's wrong.   It shouldn't be forced. Not really. And I, you know, I've been myself, and I've sat behind, and I'm thinking I can understand everything they've said.   Yeah. It's me. But then you've gone direct to the person in front of you, and you think you well, I better not interfere. Do you know what I mean? But you do think, well, I can understand all that.  

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But ultimately as well, there's people   yeah. There there's people out there, and there's nothing worse when they can take all the information,   but they're still in, you know, 2 minds whether or not they wanna go along with it if if it's true. And they keep quiet, don't they? And that's just the worst thing you can do.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Or or they they afterwards, they'll say, I understood all the information, but I didn't understand the name.   You just think, oh my god. Just put the name aside just for a minute. But you understood everything. Do you know what I mean? It's like. Yeah. Yeah. People are fixated. They want everything exact. No. You didn't get the name. Blah blah blah. You've got you've got to understand that, you know, that that will happen,   at some point. It will happen.   But I think you've just gotta grow a thick skin. You know cos otherwise you could go home and beat yourself up forever couldn't you? Yeah. About it.   You could and it could really knock your confidence. And I know a few people that obviously had their confidence knocked. Or and and also as well you know   other mediums confidence,   you know, as well, you know, and I think   we're all in this together. We we we work for the same employer and we should be there supporting each other. Do you know what I mean? Not slagging each other. Definitely. Definitely. And I and I think it doesn't matter what profession you're in though, doesn't it? There's always gonna be there's always gonna be that, unfortunately.  

But you just grow with thick skin.   And I and I think, well, I I just go out there and I do my best with the spirit world and that's all you can do. Do you know what I mean?  

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It is. And you do a bloody good job. Can you can you give us a couple of, examples, Ally, when you've, like,   given some really, you know, brilliant messages that you're like, wow.   You amazed yourself.  

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Oh, I'm trying to think. Oh, gosh.   It's been loads.   Oh, the picnic. There was a lady actually. Okay.   There was a lady who came and has a reading, and,   obviously, I can't name anybody.   But her dad came through.   And   he was showing me   he was showing me a   a goat.   And then I kept seeing this motorbike.   And,   it was really really weird. And and then I saw this old car, and I kept thinking, what what's what's the car got to do with the motorbike and the goat? But, anyway, I said to her, I said, your dad keeps showing me this motorbike and a goat, and I I can't get out of my head. He was just there. And she started to laugh, and she was laughing hysterically. You know? I thought, what's going on? She's so she says, there's a funny story about my my dad and his mate. They stole a goat.   Oh, wow. And they took it home on the motor bike.  

And then they turned this goat up because the grass in the front garden was really really high.   So we could and it and it ate everything else, including the tires on on her dad's car   and not the grass.   So it so it ate everything   apart from the grass.  

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But what more evidence could you ask for? And those are the quirky things, aren't they? Things that nobody would know anything about.  

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And it's just like you get little bizarre things like that sometimes and you think, wow. Spirit is so clever, aren't they? You know? Oh, yeah. You wouldn't you wouldn't you couldn't make it up. No. No.   I'm trying to think of another experience or something. There's been loads. I should write a book really. I just   gosh there's just so many.   Oh flicking out. I'm just trying to think.   I remember 1 lady   she came   and her husband came through and   all he kept showing me was a bowl of porridge. And that was all I was getting. And I was thinking this is a bit weird.   And she said that's so relevant because that was all he could eat was porridge at the end of his life.  



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Right.  

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And I said, well, he's fed up with that now.   He doesn't want the porridge anymore, and he's got a big cream cake.   Oh. But he he obviously had   stomach issues, you know, or there was something that he couldn't, you know, he couldn't swallow   towards the end of his life. And and the only thing that he could eat was porridge,   and that's what they used to feed him. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. It was the really it sounded really silly,   but a very important part of that message.   And, you know, I could have dismissed it and thought, oh, what's that? You know, and not said it. But I'm so glad that I did because it was a really important part of that message for her  

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to know it was And this is it. You've got to trust what you're getting, haven't you? The information. Yeah.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Just say it as you see it. I'll get songs in my head, and I'm thinking why have I got this song in it? It's the words of the song that are important or,   you know, like, oh, it was a song that was played at their funeral. Do you know what I mean? Mhmm.   I had a a gentleman came through. It was a dad, I remember. And I was in the shower in the morning, And, all I kept hearing was that Buddy Holly song in my head.   Every oh, and it's like, what what's the 1 with the tears in it? The rain.   I can't think of the can't think of the song.   It's raining in my heart. I had that song in my head,   and, it was just a repeat. It was like someone was kept repeating it and repeating it and repeating in my head. And I thought this is really weird. And as soon as the lady walked in and had the reading, I said, I'm really sorry, but I said, I've gotta get this out straight away. I said, but I've got a gentleman with me. I said, and he's singing Buddy Holly songs in my head. I said, and I have that that song raining in my heart, and she just went white.  

I just Yeah. You just made my hair stand up. Yeah. Oh, that's it. That was my dad's funeral song. We had it played at his funeral.   So Wow. You know, it's incredible. And then I think another lady   had it might have been the same lady, actually.   I kept seeing, like, a New York taxi cabs. You know, the yellow taxi cabs. I kept seeing that bed.   And her dad was, an enthusiast. He loves   vehicles, like, you know, like, he he collected, like, old cars, you know, the little the little miniature cars, what they call them, the matchbox cars. And he had hundreds of these matchbox cars with, like, and the bus the red buses and, you know, and all sorts of different transport.   And,   he loved the yellow taxi cabs, you know, the New York ones.  

And they they had him a cake done in a New York taxi,   you know, like the shape of a taxi because he loved cars so much.   Do you know what I mean? But he just kept giving me this little yellow taxi cab. That's all he kept giving me. So it was that was evidence to his daughter   that it was him, you know, because   why on earth would I have got that in my head? You know? It's bizarre, ain't it?  

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So bizarre. Amazing   how it all works.  

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Yeah. It's really amazing. And they always blow me away, Spirit. I'm absolutely blown away with the evidence that that they give. They, you know, they really do.  

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Oh, it makes me think now, actually. Yes. I want to go and see a medium. I want my nan to speak to me. But I couldn't come to you, could I? Because I know you. You know too much about me. It would be hard. Yeah. You can't feed the medium, can you? Is it what what advice do you give to people when they book in? Because I I can imagine they'll be like, oh, I've recently lost my mum, and you're like, shh. Shh. Don't feed the medium. Don't tell me.  

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Yeah. I do. I do. I plea I said, please don't tell me anything. You know?   I said, let them tell me. You know?   That's what I normally say. And I do say, you know, if you're gonna come, please sit with an open heart and an open mind, you know,   of of who comes forward because   sometimes what will happen is someone will build the energy up for someone to step in that's closer. You know? That does happen.   And and and, you know, it is an experiment. Every time we connect to spirit, it's an experiment. And I say to people, you know, please don't be upset if if if your mom, your dad, or whatever don't come through. You know, it might just be that I'm not the right medium at the moment to bring that person through. You know? Mhmm.   I can sometimes work from just the vibration of a name or a photograph sometimes.  

That might just be the little nudge that they need sometimes. But, you know, it is an experiment. And I do say, please don't think they don't wanna talk to you. I don't want you to go away thinking that. No. But I suppose there's times as well that the spirit isn't ready to come through.   Yeah. I mean, you know, you can't force something, can you? You know? And and if if they don't wanna talk, they don't wanna talk. You know? It might just be that they might have been quite   tragic circumstances over their passing and maybe that they just need that little bit more time. Or that person that's coming for the reading needs a little bit more time,   you know, to be in the right place to receive it. You know?  

So, yeah, it could be just that little bit too raw for them at the moment. You know?   So it's   it you have a duty of care. You really do. And, I try and instill that in all of our students and say, you know, you you are, you know, you you you've gotta be   you've gotta be giving the right information to people. You know? You've you've gotta look after people. It's really important because they're bereaved. They're bereft. You know? They're coming to you because, you know, they they wanna hear from somebody very special to them.   And it's important to look after them, isn't it? You know? And simultaneously   that if they're you know, you know, sometimes I get people that are very you know, they're grieving a lot. You know? And I will say you never get over losing someone. You just learn to live with it.  

You know? It's that's what grief is.   You learn to live with it. Definitely.   So but Yeah.   Yeah. I'm I'm sorry. The noise on my roof is quite loud. No. I can't I can't hear it. I can hear it. You know what? Oh, it's raining. Down outside my window as well, but,  

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no. I can't hear it. But, I mean, apart from that,   over the years, we delved into   physical circle.   Okay. And I've gotta say, that is what I absolutely   love. Do you wanna explain to the listeners what physical circle is?  

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Alright. Okay. Well, I experienced this the first time. Like, you took me, didn't you?  

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You were you were holding my hand like a child.  

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I didn't I honestly didn't know what to to expect.   And, yeah, like you say,   they just blew us away. They always blow us away when we sit in physical, don't they?   The physical the physical circle is is more about, like you say, about the physical stuff that spirit can do. You know?   They can move the tape. We have a table in the middle of the room, and the room is is usually blacked out.   And there's chairs around the room with a a small table in the middle normally and a what we call a a trumpet,   in the middle of the room on the table.   And we have various   little toys around the room like xylophone   or just some shakers or bells on the table.  

And,   obviously,   you can't be frightened of the tuck.   But there's there's there's I mean, obviously and then what we do is we build the energy and we sing. We use our voice.   And spirit use that energy to manifestate   things in the room. And it's incredible, isn't it? The things that we've seen and the walkthroughs.   You feel spirit walking through you into the circle. Yeah. And and just touching your hands. You're you hold your hands out, and they'll come and touch your hands. And,   and then I'll say and then   sometimes they'll move the table around the room or the trumpet or things will get moved around and and people say, oh, they touch my hair or, you know, and it it it it's it sounds a bit freaky,   but but it but it's not when you're there. It's quite exciting.  



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It was amazing.   Yeah. And It is amazing. It's just got me thinking. I I'd like to do 1 again soon.  

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But it's it I don't know. I mean, I I I don't know about you, but I when when they walk through   into the circle because that you can feel them walking in. Mhmm. It's almost as they walk through you. It's the nearest thing you will get to dying without dying,   because it's that pure love that you feel. It's almost like they touch your soul.   And I've been moved to tears because it's the most incredible feeling. And I think, well, if this is how it is to go to spirit and to feel that love, then take me now, you know, because   the energy and the love is incredible.  

And that must be what it's like when spirit take you. They anesthetize you with that beautiful love, and   it it's it's nothing to be scared of. And my nana always said to me, it's not the dead that'll hurt you, my darling. It's the living.   That's so true.  

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Oh, definitely.   But I remember, like, when we when it was becoming coming to the end of my nan's life, the last few days, she kept saying that she had people sat on the end of her bed. And   I was like, that's spirit, Nan. No. It's lightning. Out who they were or anything.  

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They call it lightnings. People get these these visions, you know, or they'll they'll say, oh, my husband's coming back to me week next Tuesday. You know? And it's like, oh, okay.   You know? And people think, but, yes, who are we to say that they're not being visited?   You know? That their loved ones are prearranging appointment with them. You know? Like, you've gotta say goodbyes because I'll be back next week. You know? I'm coming back Tuesday to get you. You know?   Yeah. They they do. And people have been known. They're, like, really sick, and they'll they'll sit up in bed and eat a 3 course   dinner before they pop off. You know? And it's like, well, you look really well the day before.  

You know? And then the next minute, they're gone. You know?   And,   and I think that that that's are you still there?  

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Yeah. Yeah. I'm just listening attentively. I'm I'm letting you go on. No. I'm listening.   Yeah. Sorry. I'm rambling on, aren't I? No. That's alright. You ramble, my lovely.  

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But, yeah, like, you know, they they they they've eaten all these dinners and sitting up and they look really bright and, you know, they're like, I've never seen him look so well and do you know what I mean? And and all of a sudden, they're they're gone. Do you know? Yeah. But it's almost like spirit are giving them that 1 little last bit of energy   to say goodbye.   You  

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know? Yeah. It's amazing. And I've seen that. It it fascinates me. Doing my soul midwifery stuff as well. I've seen that. I've seen it. Tell tell us about your soul midwifery. Tell the listeners what that's about.  

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Well, basically, being a soul midwife is is about supporting someone holistically at the end of life, not medically,   holistically.   So and spiritually,   you know, so you you're helping people make that transition to the spirit world. I always say to people, you won't come into the world without a midwife, would you? You know? So it's like, basically, what you're doing is you're guiding somebody out of the out of this world. You know? And making that transition as smooth as you can. You know?   It could be like certain   meditations,   music, things like that. There's certain oils that you can burn in the room that help with transition.  

You know, there's lots of different ways that that a soul midwife can help somebody cross over or someone to pass. But you're also there to support the family as well,   spiritually, you know,   at a time when they need that. You know, they need that support   and love.   And,   you know, it's   unfortunately,   you know, in today's society, if if medicine can't help you, it will just leave you.   And   years years ago, you know, people lived you know, people were born at home and died at home, and death was part of life. You know? Everybody saw death. You know? Like, you know, your nan would die, and she'd be put in the coffin and laid out in the front room, wouldn't she? Do you know what I mean? So Yeah. Yeah. It was part of life. People saw it every day, but now it's a clinical thing, and it's taken away from us. People don't see dead bodies. You know, you can probably count on 1 hand   how many people have actually seen a dead body. Do you know what I mean?  

Yeah. But it's it's nothing to be scared of. Do you know what I mean? And it,   and people,   you know, they they this they're it's taken away from them. You know? And I think   it's about giving people choices about where they wanna die and what what their wishes they want at the end of their life and helping them plan their funerals and things like that. You can do all these things with these people, you know, at the end of life. And it's so, so important, I think. Definitely important.   But I I can also impart wisdom, you know, and people say and and also knowing the stages of dying as well, which are really important. Do you know what I mean?   The Tibetans believe there was there was 4 stages, you know,   to the the elemental energies of of leaving the body. So, you you know, there's lots of different   transitional energies that happen throughout the body. And also, like you say, you know, knowing when that's when it's gonna come, when it's gonna happen, and things like that. So you can help the family say, it's not going to be long now. You know?  

So yeah, it's it's it's a very rewarding   position, really.  

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I I think it is. I should imagine it is. I used to quite like with my old job sitting with people at their end of life. And Yeah. I think, actually, if you passed when I was here, it'd be a really privilege to sit with you   through that. Because I'm just fascinated   by it, and I and I do like looking at dead bodies. Because it's just that empty shell.   I just, it it's always gonna fascinate you, isn't it? Like you say, the average person, they haven't seen   a dead body.   No. And when I went to see my nan, I had a little chat with her and what have you. And,   it was funny because when I was leaving,   when I turned my back to walk out, I just suddenly had a vision, like a horror film, that she sat up and turned around and looked at me. I was just like, like, oh, I can't wait to get out of here now.  

But that's just me in, too many horror movies.  

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Bless her.   Yeah. I mean, let's say, it it I think as well I think the thing that that struck me the first time I saw someone, it was just the I I kept staring   thinking, where's the aura? There's no energy. You know? I couldn't see an aura and it was like it it it wasn't real. You know? No. Just a shout, isn't it? Just a shout.   It is just a vehicle that that person stepped out of, isn't it? It might look like them to a certain degree, but then some people, you know, when some people die, they don't even look like them anymore, do they?   No.  

I I've seen, like, when when people are passing or crossing over, they their persona, their actual energy, their face changes as well. You know? It doesn't look like them anymore, which is a bit weird.   And,   yeah. It's it's quite weird. It's, yeah, it's fascinating.  

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It is fascinating.   Yeah. Absolutely.   Well, we've got about six minutes left, aren't   we? I know. Where does that time go? Yeah. That's because you're talking about something you love.   Yeah.   Yeah. So what what advice would you give to somebody that's looking to do this kind of work?  

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I think   you've gotta find the right circle   off right. You know? You've gotta find the right teacher.   We always say, you know,   you know, the the teacher will appear, isn't it, as they say,   when the time is right.   And I'm a great believer in that. But,   I think, like you say, you've gotta find the right the right teacher, the right person that you connect with that   you can you get. You know? You understand what they're trying to get get through.   I think you can find a   a group through,   a spiritualist church or or or anywhere like that. Normally, they have, like, spin off circles from there.   You know, if if you go regularly to a medium, they they might run their own private home circles.  

If you prefer something a little bit smaller.   But I think some people say, well, can I can I do this? Can I learn this at home?   It's not   you can learn the basics from from a book and you can learn that but   I think you really need to be in a collective circle to feel that energy.   And I think being with like minded people helps.   So, yeah, just finding the right the right medium, the right circle, really.   Yeah.  

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Yeah. And most most places have got local spiritualist churches, so you can can get in touch that way.   Yeah. And then,   finishing up, Ally,   you also you run monthly meetings.   Meetings. You organize fantastic mediums that come to Cornwall.   Tell us the name of your Facebook  

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page where if anybody wants to connect with you Oops. I just knocked me. That was clever, wasn't it?   Yeah. No. Friends of Spirit Cornwall,   on Facebook.   And,   we have a monthly meet at Hale Passmore Edwards,   where we have, like, mostly, like, local mediums that come and work there every month. I just use it the last Friday of the month normally.   They usually put up on there. We have regular workshops now and again where we have visiting mediums that come and work. But, I do bigger events,   usually throughout the year as well at Chase Water at the moment. It used to be at the Heartlands until   the Heartlands folded,   and went. So, yeah. But that's our page.  

And I've got   my own page, which is Ally Winter's psychic medium.   So if anybody wants to contact me, they can get me through there or  

[00:56:24] Unknown:

through Facebook. I'll add the links.   Yeah. I'll add the links to the show notes, but,   it's definitely you know, it's not all about becoming a medium, is it? It's just about No. I don't know. It's another pace of love and learning things  

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and the whole spiritual along. Some come along, and they'll think, oh, this isn't for me. But it might open up another spiritual door for something else, you know, like healing. Yeah. And there are. Exactly. There are so many different ways   to work for spirit, isn't there? Yeah. Gosh. I mean, you know, there's so many different capacities of light workers, isn't there? There's he there's crystal healers. There's, you know, Reiki healers. There's there's sound healing. There's so many avenues you can go down with spiritual work, isn't there? Just so many.   And no matter what   you do, it's important. I think everybody's important whatever they do. You know, it is important. So,  

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but yeah. So what is your next big event coming up, Ally? Have you got something in the pipeline?  

[00:57:21] Unknown:

What? Chase Water? For other people. Sorry. For other people. No. That's alright.   For the people.   The big the biggest 1 will be Stephen Holbrook.   He will be with us in June 0 at, Chase Water, but I'm sorry. I can't remember the date.  

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No. That's alright. It'll be on your page.   And what about you? What have you got coming up for yourself? You got any big nights ahead planned?  

[00:57:45] Unknown:

I'm trying to think. No. I've got a few nights.   I've got 1 in Newquay, I think, soon.   I can't remember where else now. Sorry.  

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No. That's alright.  

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I've got, I don't think I'm doing any church services until about April 0 or May 0. So it's, yeah, because it's bit bit bit bit manic.   Yeah. Yeah. It might be private stuff going on at the minute. So,   but yeah. So I'm sure I'll get round to it. I'll I'll be doing some more work probably later on in the year. So,   yeah, it'd be nice.   I've also got, the lovely Jackie Blakeaway. Bless her. She's doing a lovely crystal healing workshop,   at Passmore Edwards. I think it's the 5th of April,, Saturday 0 April 0.   And, there's not not nothing that Jackie don't know about   about crystals.  

And, she's a wonderful woman.   She is. She's amazing lady.   And, yeah, she's she's gonna be doing some crystal healing workshops with us, which are really nice. I'm I'm looking forward to that.  

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So, I think it's good. I do really love coming along to all of those courses. It's lovely. And just the people you meet a day out, yeah, with like minded people.   Anyway That's Ally, we do have to close-up   because we are naturally,   like, half a minute away from finishing.   But thank you so much. We got there in the end, didn't we? Yeah. I've been trying to plan this for a while.   No. It's been lovely, and you'll have to come back again and tell us more   different aspects. We can talk about a different subject. But,   yeah, thank you so much, my lovely. So go to   Friends of Spirit Cornwall on Facebook page   or Alison Winters'   psychic medium on Facebook.  



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Ali Winters. Sorry. Ali Winters. Oh, sorry. Okay. No. No. No. It's fine.  

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That's alright. Right. Well, there's no outro music, lovely listeners, because   because I've had a terrible day with technology.   But I will be back   on Wednesday with Laura Nina at 07:00, and I'm running through till 09:00 this week with Maleficus for part 2. Have a great week.