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Women's Hour broadcasts live every Sunday at 7:00p.m. uk time. 

In this episode of Women's Hour, host Shelley Tasker is joined by Jo Wood to discuss a range of topics, starting with the controversial Bovear experiment. Jo explains the introduction of Bovear, a supplement mixed into dairy cattle feed to reduce methane emissions, financially backed by Bill Gates. The discussion highlights the public and farmers' outrage due to lack of consultation and potential health risks associated with Bovear, including its carcinogenic properties and impact on animal health. The conversation also touches on the economic implications for farmers and the potential monopolization of the dairy industry by large corporations like Arla.

In the second part of the show, Shelley pays tribute to Anna De Bessiere, a UK lawyer known for her advocacy on legal and ethical issues during the COVID-19 pandemic, who recently passed away. Anna's work in human rights and her fearless stance against government policies are remembered.

Technical difficulties arise as Shelley attempts to connect with Tracy Barnes to discuss the "right to die" bill and care home issues. Despite the challenges, Shelley is joined by a surprise guest, Mallificus, who shares humorous and practical "top tips" for everyday life, providing a light-hearted end to the show. The episode wraps up with Shelley reflecting on the joys and stresses of the festive season.

[00:00:57] Unknown:

Good evening to all the beautiful women out there and the occasional gentlemen listening.   You are listening to Women's Hour.   Today's date   is Sunday, 1st December.   Gosh. How can I forget that? It's, we are well on our way till Christmas.   So you are listening, yeah, through radiosoakbox.com.   I am also streaming live via Rumble. Just look up Shelley Tasker.   So good evening. Let's get young miss Jo Wood on the line. Good evening, miss Jo Wood.   Good evening. You always make me laugh when it's miss young Jo Wood. You are miss young Jo Wood. You will always be young. Always young. Living in your heart.   How are you, my lovely?  



[00:01:45] Unknown:

I'm good. Busy week. Busy week.   Back to work on a Sunday, which is a bit of a shock to the system, but hey ho. You're you're gonna have to change your job. You know? I don't feel that you're taking this  

[00:01:56] Unknown:

radio show stuff serious, Jo.   No.   Being a pilot, won't I? So Yeah. Go back to being a pilot. Yes.   So we've we've got a couple of good, topics. Well, it's gonna be a busy show, actually, because you get weeks. You're like, what should we talk about? And then we finally found our focus, what we're gonna do, and there's just so much. It's like, right. Let's just, talk about this. Let's talk about that. Where should we start first with the whole bovir experiment? Because there's lots of people that haven't got a clue about that or understand it. So,   Yeah. Jo, enlighten the listeners. What is Bovir?  

What is happening in this world?  

[00:02:40] Unknown:

Well,   there's a product called Bovir.   And,   dear friend,   Bill Gates,   has had a hand in it bringing it to market. Of course. Although  

[00:02:54] Unknown:

sorry? Sorry. I just said of course because he's a wonderful man. Of course.  

[00:02:59] Unknown:

Yep.  

[00:03:00] Unknown:

You know, not a direct hand, but he has,   you know,   financially   backed heavily financially backed a company   called DSM   who have   formulated,   you know, in their labs, bit of a Frankenstein   situation,   a product called Beauvyr.   Now Beauvyr is a supplement,   and it's mixed in with dairy cattle's   feed.   And the idea   behind it is that it,   inhibits   the methane gas that cows   produce and release, I e burp parts.   You know, because according to the powers that be, cows are a huge   polluter to the environment.   Now the problem with Bovir,   it contains   a product called nitroxypropanol.  

Obviously, that's a synthetic   product.   It's not particularly good, but we've come on to that. So they've abbreviated it to 3, as in the digits 3,   n o p.   Interestingly   enough,   it isn't an authorized   additive in the EU.   But, hey ho, we're not in the EU now, so, you know, everything goes   apparently.   As you can imagine,   many of the public and farmers are enraged   over this because   we've had no consultation.   We've had   no fair warning that this is what they've been doing.   So it all sort of came to light   sort of,   I don't know, the tail end of   the middle of the week just gone, I guess.  

But I guess to put a a a positive   spin on it   is   it really has   shaken up the public awareness.   You know, to to the likes of you and I and our ilk,   you know, we kind of   are quite well versed on what goes on behind the corrupt scenes, but the public isn't. So this has really sort of, you know, woken them up, if you will, to highlight,   you know, exactly   what our money is paying for, I e, you know, a poison,   basically, probably to,   limit our lifespan. Who knows?   Anyway, the cost   of producing   Beauvyr   is about 1 p a liter.   And   the cost, I think,   thereabouts for farmers   put to produce a liter of milk   is 1.1p   per liter.  

So,   you know, when you look at it that way, it becomes apparent. It's ludicrous for   the farmer to sort of carry on farming because they're just a consistent   loss all the time. Meanwhile,   Joe Public   is paying an extra pence per liter   on top of their milk   for the privilege of having   bovir in it to stop cows from farting.   So it kind of begs the question,   is this a wider part of the plan,   dare I say it,   to take farmers   out of the equation   and leave the farming   industry   with a huge monopoly   for companies such as   Arla,   who are   leading   the way with using Bovir,   to come in with their large corporate friends   and take control.  

Now for any listeners overseas,   ALA is a very big corporation,   big   industrial   dairy setup, if you will.   So,   you know, not only   have we had last week   the hoo about   inheritance tax for farmers.   They're now having   this issue   of dairy farmers   that have signed   very long contracts with ALA,   the there is a huge potential   if they are not already in the trial that is going on throughout the UK and there's about 30 farms, be it all not that many, but it's enough,   those farmers that have got a contract with AALA that sell their milk direct to them,   it's almost as if they could possibly be tarnished,   and then people are gonna,   you know, not buy produce from that farm,   which, of course, will have a knock on to their revenue,   and then we'll potentially put them out to business. There was a study done recently.  

I can't remember where I read it.   18 months ago, farmers were asked   in   sort of   how what was the likelihood that they they thought they would be still in business in 18 months' time? And it was 49%.   A couple of weeks ago, the same question was asked,   and it's now 61%.   So we've gone from 18 months ago, farmers thinking they're still being business in 18 months' time   from 49%   to 61%.   That's hell of a hell of a jump to 61%   of farmers think they probably won't be in business that much longer.   And this is coming to the forefront with the whole hoo   Again, if you look up because they love to tell us, don't they? The darlings   love to tell us what they are doing.  

So if you look up on the UK government website for Bovir,   it states that cows   well, no. It states that the the cows that were trialed initially   in   this   Bovir   experiment,   many of them   in actual fact, I think there was only 80 cows in the trial.   Many of those 80 cows   had   reduced heart rates.   Many of them were put off their food and water,   and 3 quarters of the milk that they produced   contained Bovir   because they were eating that supplement with their own feeds. Oh my god.  

[00:10:07] Unknown:

Yeah. I mean, you you   you just read out the little bit that I was gonna put in, but, yeah, the outcome of the assessment   of the whole Bovir safety thing. And it's only, it was only studied over 90 days as well, wasn't it? 90 days. Yeah.  

[00:10:19] Unknown:

Days as well, wasn't it? 90 days. That yeah. Eighty cows over 90 days. I mean, you know, that kind of reminds me of four and   a half years ago when they did a test study of the human species   worldwide, only 4,000 people. But, you know, they carried on rolling out.   Anyway, we'll move on. We'll move on. So the study also reported   that in female rats,   it altered their genomes,   which then led the rat to become carcinogenic   with the potential   to form tumors.   And in male rats, it reduced   the I cannot say this word, testicular   weight,   I e, it was rendering the male rats infertile.  

Wow. Crazy.   So then as you continue   to read the government website,   it then goes on to state,   in humans,   it's corrosive   to the eyes. So you can imagine the farmers got a deal with this blooming supplement.   So the government then goes on, it's corrosive to the eyes, it's an irritant to the skin, and it's carcinogenic if you inhale it. So I'll tell you what, lads.   Best you don a hazmat suit,   a full breathing apparatus,   and non perible   permanentable   I I can never say that word either. Gloves. So, basically, rubber gloves that don't let anything in,   all to put a supplement in a cow's feed.  

You couldn't just make this bloody shit up. You really, really could. But then they go on to say and this is the interesting bit. They go on to say, the risk   to the environment   is acceptable.   What do you mean the risk is acceptable? So are you actually saying there's a risk to the environment for you to make that statement?   I could when I read the website on the government, I was, oh my god. I had steam coming out of my ears.  

[00:12:31] Unknown:

Yeah. I can imagine. And the thing is there's so many people that believe in the whole climate hoax   and the badness of CO 2, and they don't understand that we are CO 2. We eat c o 2, and it's a complete cycle.   And we need it to make oxygen, food, water, blah blah blah. So in my eyes, you can't actually get enough c o 2.  

[00:12:53] Unknown:

Well, I mean, in in industrial   tomato grows, they actually   pipe into the greenhouses   c o 2 for the tomatoes.  

[00:13:03] Unknown:

I mean, it's just crazy. Well, I've got a little chart in front of me, and it's just like, it starts off with the methane,   and then it turns into oxygen,   then it turns to carbon dioxide,   and then it makes water vapor.   So Yeah. And then it does a complete recycle. Yeah.  

[00:13:23] Unknown:

Why they're so intent on on, you know, minimalizing this. So both there, apparently,   will reduce   methane   by 27%.   However   however,   that 20%   has got an asterisk next to it. So when you go back in to read the study to look for, like, the,   amendments, if you will, for the asterisk,   that off asterisk   asterisk correlates   to the reduction in methane by 20%,   sorry, 27%   was obtained   with cows eating   a protein rich feed.   Remember that word protein.   So, coincidentally,   coincidentally,   Ala have just signed a acquisition   agreement   with a company called   Volek,   and they are   stationed in Wales.  

And they produce   protein   in the form of whey, I e, like, for the nutritional and the supplement sort of sports thing, you know, and your shakes.   Okay. Fine. Fair enough.   Arla   also   have teamed up with a Danish company   called   Enorm,   e n o r m, Enorm.   And they are the largest   European   insect farm.   You're thinking, where the hell is this going? I certainly was.   So from the dairy,   there is a residue,   a residue product called Dilectos   Permate,   which is generated   in large amounts from the lactose   production.   And it's mainly used as a biogas.   But, of course, they don't wanna use that. That's not their preferred method because,   you know, that doesn't speed up   lessening life cycles.  

So what they're doing is   they are reusing   that lactose   permit   as animal feed because it's a source of protein.   So, you know, going back to what I said, coincidentally,   Arlo just signed an acquisition   with a company called Volac   that produces protein products.   So what will happen is   they will gradually,   I would imagine, phase out   producing   protein products for the nutritional   industry and just concentrate on producing   protein products with the,   residue product of the lactose   for   ALA.   So   Ala wanted to   utilize that product   straight away   by putting it into animal feed,   which is why they teamed up with Enorm   being the largest   insect farm in Europe   because what they do with it,   they use it as a nutritional   feed source   for soldier flies   larvae.  

Can you see can you see the chain here? You've got Ala   feeding Bovir   to reduce,   you know, 20%   flipping methane,   but   they are only feeding that bovir   to cows   that have a strict   protein   feed source,   not out on the grass, on the pasture, or   the silage. So they're taking away the natural   element from   what cows would usually eat.   So like I said, they wanted to utilize that lactose straight away. They calm,   so they then have started up a partnership with Enorm   because Enorm would   feed   back by   to soldier flies larvae because it's quite nutritional   for the young eggs when they're hatching.  

So   what they then do is dry them out that larvae   and put them into pellet form and then feed it back to the cows because it's very high in protein.   And god bless them.   God bless Arla.   Always thinking of humanity.   They said it's also got a very high potential to be a protein   source   for humans.   Mhmm. So you can imagine that they're probably gonna   grind up   this bloody   soldier fly's larvae,   do something   with it,   and put it into products like   cheese   and   and yogurt and butter and and   anything else that they could possibly think of.   So the gutters   have every intentions   of feeding dairy cows a strict protein diet and not having those cows out at pasture   because that's the only way   that they're going to be able to reduce   or to control   the reduction   of methane   is if they feed them in a barn 247,   you know, this protein source rich feed   with added Bovir in.  

And it begs the question   why they didn't   why they didn't test Bovir   on   cows that were eating grass. I can't figure that out. I don't know why   why they didn't.   Maybe because they would find out that it probably didn't work. I don't know.   So the question is, Shelley,   would you,   would I, or would anybody   else wanna be   consuming   those dairy products   that have got 3 quarter well, in in 3 quarters of the dairy products,   you've got Bovir in it,   and it's it's   highly   likely, they're saying,   a high potential   to be   carcinogenic   and altering the genomes   of life forms.  



[00:20:19] Unknown:

Well, see, the thing is Well,   we're fortunate   because we're, like, in the zone to see see what's going on. The average person is just gonna go to their local supermarket   and not know any of the wiser, and a few maybe are not bothered. But I think more and more people are, like, realizing what they eat. They are what they eat.   But,   what's the point I'm trying to make here? I I've noticed on the farmer's movement page today, I've only looked a couple of times, but there are a lot of farmers that are organic   and say they wouldn't be using the product.  

So if that is the case, it's just turning more and more people to use farm shops and stuff like that, isn't it?  

[00:21:02] Unknown:

Yeah. I mean, it is slightly ambiguous   in the terms of Yield Valley is organic,   or they have organic products.   But,   you know, what what what's the what's the likelihood? What's the potential for cross contamination   that some of their regular   dairy products   gets mixed in with organic?   So, therefore, you have Bovir   in the organic substance.   And, again, you know, I mean, I've I've said a couple of times on the Farmers' Movement page,   we've got a box clever because,   you know, the farmers that do   produce milk for Ala,   we don't want them to go out of business,   and they're in a catch 22 situation. Because if they don't sell their milk   because they are, you know, entrenched in a contract with Ala, they can't sell it to anybody else.  

What are they gonna do with it? You know, yes, okay, they could sell it at the farm gate.   You know, there's, apparently, there's laws   that you can't sell it to another farm.   But if they're if they're producing   high quantities of milk, that's a that's a hell of a lot of milk to be having at the farm gate for people to buy.   So I I really don't know at this point in time what the answer is other than it's not a cut and dry case because   the flip side of it is,   you know,   their timing, the nutters of this world, their timing is always impeccable.   Have they sort of bought all of this out because   they know farmers are up against it? They know farmers are struggling,   and it's almost as if something that would tip the scales of balance for them because we'll all be going, oh my god. You know, Allah and   whoever else should be doing this, they shouldn't be putting in our, our food source.  

And then   we're kind of doing the dirty work for the nutters by getting rid of the farmers.  

[00:23:17] Unknown:

Very clever. Very clever. But that's what they want to turn it all on us and,   make it look that way.   I mean, I surely now people have got to start seeing you know, we've seen for the last, like, few years the whole plant based diet at McDonald's and such like that. They've, you know, they've even got, like, half an hour now of plant based food in every bit freezer departments in stores,   and they have notably said that we will be having, like, lab grown meat   in 2030.   That's not long away. Yeah.  

[00:23:50] Unknown:

So it   oh, yeah. It's it's   it really is a convoluted,   confusing   situation   that, you know,   the UK   have now found themselves in,   which brings me on to the next bit.   Being that this is a segment of strong women,   our friends,   Anna De Bessirette,   I think I pronounced it right, Anna De Bessirette.   Yeah.   She sadly   passed away   yesterday.   Yeah. I'm trying to sorry. Carry on.  

[00:24:31] Unknown:

She had a phone with cancer. Yeah. No. I was just, I didn't even I wasn't aware that she was unwell, and I'm not sure if I've seen her, if we've seen her at any of the rallies that we've been to in London. But for those of you that haven't heard of Anna Deboisier,   here's, just a little, paragraph, basically.   She she was a UK lawyer known for outspoken views on legal and ethical issues during the COVID 19 pandemic.   She became a prominent figure for challenging government policies, particularly on human rights, informed consent, and vaccine mandates.   She was a retired army officer and experienced employment lawyer.  

Du Boisier frequently argued that certain pandemic related measured violated domestic and international laws. She has spoken at public events and been featured in various media outlets discussing these concerns.   Her work has included efforts to educate the public on legal rights,   including issues around bodily autonomy and implications of emergency health regulations.   She also addressed legal frameworks like the Magna Carta and the Nuremberg Code to support her claims.   So   I well, it's awful awful. I couldn't believe it when I read that today.   And tributes are pouring anywhere, and I think there's, a special post. It's about 19 minutes long on YouTube.  

I will share it on my Facebook page later, just a tribute.   But a wonderful woman. Wonderful woman. 1 of the one of the fighters. Very  

[00:25:59] Unknown:

yeah. Exactly. A very   strong,   fiercely independent   woman that,   you know, right now, we could have done with over this whole,   you know, ALA debacle and inheritance   tanks because as you right pointed out, you know, it was human rights that was her sort of niche and employment law,   and knowing the law, the letter of the law, right down to the last sort of, you know, alphabet letter,   incredibly   strong.   I remember   and I'm very composed   with it. I remember watching a video of her, and, she was literally circled by I mean, you couldn't even count the amount of officers.   You know, in the end, they backed down, and they were like, well, yeah, actually, that is law. So, we'll let you go on your way.  

Yeah.  

[00:27:06] Unknown:

Yeah. So you sadly missed Very sadly. And, well, to end that, because you're gonna you've gotta go back to work.   And I've got Tracy UK. You've gotta go back to work. And Tracy Barnes will be on with me in part 2, but somebody   wrote,   mister Steve Parks   wrote a lovely song about Anna's fight. So I'm gonna play you out to that now, Jo,   and thanks, my lovely, for an in-depth   in-depth   discussion there. Well done on all your research,   and I'll speak to you soon, my lovely. But I'll play this song about Anna's fight.   Take care. Bye.  



[00:27:45] Unknown:

Bye.  

[00:27:51] Unknown:

In a world that's lost its way,   Anna stood strong never swayed.   Through the storm, she raised her voice.   For the people, she made a choice.   With the law in her hand, she took a stand   fighting for justice   across the land. A warrior's heart in a time of fear,   and we see we're all right here.   She's a fighter for the light   in the darkest of the night.   And a depressed earth stands so tall for justice to risk it all.  

[00:28:28] Unknown:

Her fight is all alone.  

[00:28:31] Unknown:

Together, we're never   alone. For the love of human rights,   she leads us through the night.   They try to break the will of the free, but Anna saw through their tyranny.   With courage, she faced it all,   refusing to let the people fall.   She raised her sword, her voice, her pen to protect the rights of women and men. For every soul, she took the fight with justice burning so bright.  

[00:29:06] Unknown:

She's a fire to board a light  

[00:29:09] Unknown:

in the darkest of the night.   And an equivser and stand so tall for justice to risk it  

[00:29:17] Unknown:

all. Her fight is all over.  

[00:29:21] Unknown:

Together we're never alone.   For the love of human rights,   We stand with you through thick and thin, with every battle we'll rise again.   For the heart that won't be swayed   in your light, we're never afraid.  

[00:29:53] Unknown:

She's a fighter for the light  

[00:30:39] Unknown:

And there we are. That was lovely.   Sadly, she's gonna be sadly missed, and,   what a woman in history.   Anyway, right. On for part 2 of the show, we have Tracey Barnes, our friend of the show. She's been on a few times,   and,   we're going to discuss   the,   rights to die bill and, a little bit more about the care home,   stories,   synagas. What's going on?   Right. Let's get Tracy on the line.   She is   well, she does know.   We have arranged it.  

[00:31:26] Unknown:

Hello?  

[00:31:27] Unknown:

Good evening, mister You're right. Barnes. I'm not bad. God, you like to leave me hanging answering that phone?   Can you hear me?  

[00:31:36] Unknown:

No? Hello?  

[00:31:38] Unknown:

Oh, no. No. No. No. No. I can hear you. Can the listeners, if you're in Rumble and you're on the chat there, could you hear me and Tracy or   anyone?   Bear with me a second. Oh, okay.   Hello? Alright. Can you hear me?   Oh, no. No. Gonna have to try Skype. Gonna have to try Skype.   I can see her.  

[00:32:05] Unknown:

You won't let me hear anything.  

[00:32:08] Unknown:

Yeah. I think   let me message you. I think you're on mute.   Sorry about this, dear listeners, but this is live radio,   and, we can expect these things.   Oh, nope. I've answered that on my phone. If I do that, then,   oh god. This is just too stressful.   I'm stressed today. Big time. Big time.   Right. Let me okay.   Connecting.   Can you hear me now? I can hear you. Can you hear me? Hello? Hello?   No. We can't. Right. It's gonna have to be a Skype job. I can,   oh, never. Never. Never. Never.   Hello?   I can hear you, but you can't hear me.   And I've got a whole half an hour with Tracy. I don't I don't know if any of your listeners can hear her, but, anyway, it doesn't matter because she can't hear me. I've had this happen once before, actually.  

I'm gonna try it   on Skype.   Gosh.   So he can hear us both amazingly. So it's Tracy's ends. Right. Sorry. I'm just seeing on Skype.   Do do do do do do. Let me just message Tracy again.   Listeners.   Sorry about this.   Listeners.   Stop rushing, Shelley, because then it won't work.   Can hear us   both.   Only I   can't hear you.   Well, I'm glad you're listening, Maleficos, because if I can't get Tracy on, you're gonna have to come on   on women's hour.   Okay?   Because I will be needing a helping hand.   Hello? Can you hear me?   I don't do WhatsApp on a computer. You can't do WhatsApp on a computer, can you?   That's really strange.  

Can you do Skype? Lovely.   We've had Tracy on before,   and, we've never had any of these problems. But like I say, this is live radio.   I'm not gonna let it add to my stress of the day. Yes. She can do Skype. Right? Fingers crossed.   And I hope you're here. It's still hanging around them. And, of course,   you always said you would come on and pretend to be a lady.   Now she's   read just fingers. I can't multitask. Not today, anyway. Right.   Skype.   Really, I should be playing a song now, shouldn't I?   Now I have to find Tracy on Skype.   Lordy, Lordy, as Joe would say.  

Right.   She's not   online.   And I can just hear my 11 year old up there screaming his head off gaming.   Hoping you guys can't hear that. No. It's been a very stressful day. Lovely, but stressful. Is that possible?   Been to get our real Christmas trees at Santa's Christmas fields at Saint Agnes in Cornwall,   and I've decorated it all pink and green. And, oh, it just looks lovely. It looks lovely.   But then the eldest,   came   around, and we've sorted out rooms here, there, and everywhere.   My house is a shithole, basically. This lovely room I'm in with my Christmas tree is the only tidy room. Okay?   So if you're gonna turn up unexpectedly   No, Tracy. I can't do can't do WhatsApp.  

Right. I'm gonna have to leave it there and play a song a minute. Sorry about this, guys. Like I say, this is live, and it's worked before, but then,   everything changes.   Let's just find a song.   Should even have one here. I'm on the desktop, shouldn't I? Just a little quick.   Oh, I like this song, and it's gonna play.   Is it?   Or has everything just stopped working?   Oh, we're not gonna have a bit of Christmas music. That'll do this Christmas.  

[00:37:58] Unknown:

Hello?  

[00:37:59] Unknown:

Can you hear me?   Can you hear me, miss Theresa Barnes?   Can you hear me? I can hear you.   Oh, this Christmas movie. Music is driving everyone nuts. I don't know Hello?   Can you hear me?   Janet, no. You can't hear me. You can't hear me.   Right. Never mind. We will leave it. Mister Malefika Scott, I hope you haven't run off anywhere because I need someone to talk to.   Okay.   Probably most most of you have probably,   just, I can't even stop the music now. Everything is going off. Most of you listeners are probably tuned off by now anyway. What the heck? How professional?   Right? Whereas   I bet he's disappeared. But he's disappeared. I'm just gonna start the call and hope hope hope that somebody   answers it, basically,   because I don't know what I'm gonna wrap it on for for 22 minutes.  

And,   it's been a bit like that today. I like trouble booked people.   It's because I've got Joe helping out, which is great, but I said we're gonna need a calendar   because,   yeah, I've double booked, basically. Somebody messaged me and said, oh, do you still want me tonight? And I was like, oh my god. I had it in my head. It was next week.   Joe had booked the farmer   lady. Mister Scott,   welcome to women's hour.  

[00:39:26] Unknown:

Hello, my darling. How are you? Realize realize I would be on Woman's Hour. I've always wanted to be on Woman's Hour to I knew you did.  

[00:39:35] Unknown:

You're a lifesaver.  

[00:39:38] Unknown:

I've been   oh, hang on a sec. I've got I've got Radio Soapbox playing in the background. Hang on. There we go. There we go.   There we go. Yeah. Sorry about that. Very unprofessional of me.   Yes. I was just listening to your show and, how unfortunate. You couldn't get her on because the first bit, I've heard of this Bovia stuff, but I I didn't actually know what it was about. So that was quite interesting.   Yes. How are you?  

[00:40:04] Unknown:

Sorry. Highly stressed. Highly stressed.   She says laughing away.   Oh my gosh. Now Tracy's trying I'm I'm gonna accept it, and she she can join the call if she comes in, but I don't think it's gonna work. Can you hear me, Tracy Barnes? It worked a little bit then, and then it went weird again. So can you hear me or not? No. Don't leave it. Don't worry. I'm just gonna hang up, and she's gonna think I'm really rude. Right.   Mister Maleficos, how am I? Yes. Stressed with the joy of Christmases   and stuff like that.   You know, it's only the 1st December.  

I don't usually get my tree this early,   but, you know, with the little one with me every other weekend,   if well, he doesn't wanna wait 2 weeks. So are you feeling at all festive?  

[00:40:50] Unknown:

Absolutely. We've already got our tree.   So, normally, we go to a local,   a local   garden nursery who only deal in cash, etcetera, etcetera.   Reputable bunch. Great, great people.   We normally go there. Make a pilgrimage there once a year to pick up the largest Christmas tree I could possibly find that I could just about fit in the house, much to my other house to spare.   Oh, I love a massive tree. Love it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's always oversized. We always have cut a bit of top off, and it always encroaches on the TV so that only half the people in the lounge can see it and all that kind of thing. Anyway, so,   we went there this year, and they had some   that were in pots. And as soon as we pulled up, my my daughter and I, we we pulled up. I said, oh, look at those. Some of those are really, really nice, perfect Christmas tree shapes. And she was, oh, yeah. Yeah. So we had a look through all the cut ones, and we found a few potential,   you know, a a few potential   candidates   for our homely Christmas tree this year. Because, I mean, I don't care what anyone says.  

It's a sustainable   industry.   Right?   People people that sell Christmas trees, cut down Christmas trees, they don't cut them all down,   and they replant them every year. Otherwise, they wouldn't have a business next year. Okay. So just clarifying that for all the airheads out there that think it's not very green to have a Christmas tree in your house.   We've gone one step further this year. So anyway, so we,   found a few happy candidates and then then started looking through the potted ones. And the potted ones obviously are more expensive because they're still alive and they carry on living after you've,   you know, had your Christmas.  

And we found 1. I thought, that's that's perfect. So we To cut a long story short, we we got a potted one this year which stands,   I suppose, about   in the pot about 4 and a half, 5 foot about 5 foot tall.   And,   got it got it into the back of the van. And I got my daughter to sit and hold it in the back of the van at an angle because it was a little bit too tall. I didn't want the top of it to snap. You know what I mean? And,   we got it back. And obviously, I drive, as you know, I drive a transit van.   And, I pulled up in front of the house, and my missus is there in the kitchen window, obviously, slaving away in the kitchen. And   she looked out, and she obviously clocked that our daughter wasn't sat in the front seat.  

And she the look on her face because she thought, oh my god, it must be huge.   Right? And so and I beamed her through the window. I was like, big beaming smile. And then reversed the van up, parked it where it should be. Got out the van and walked around and gave her another big beaming smile as if to say, look at the size of you're you're gonna love this. Look at the size of the tree that we got. Because it's always her worst nightmare because they they drop needles everywhere. But she, you   know, you're saying about women's women's hour. I mean, I should I should mention my long long suffering other half every year   puts up with the fact   that we get the luxury we possibly can. Oh, that would make me Goes along Yeah.  

Goes along with the the fact that it's Christmas. Alright. Okay.   But inevitably, the dropping needles and everything just does a nut in. And I know it does. But it's Christmas, you know.   So anyway, I I I looked at my door as I opened the side door of the van. I looked at her and I said, when you get out of the van and I say, I said, just give mom a big beaming smile as if we've got the biggest blooming tree ever,   which she duly did. And I I could see the look on her face. Just she was just like a total apprehension, sort of half smiling, but total apprehension. So anyway, I lean in and I pull out this potted tree and the look of relief on her face. It was it was a picture. That was that was that's my first Christmas present to my missus. The fact that she's not gonna have to pick up after the tree   for the duration of the festive period. But, no, we got it in.  

That was so when did we do that? We did that on Thursday.   Go on. You're on. Miss out. Yeah. We do miss out.   This particular nursery, if you don't get in there quick, you're not left with all the best choices. And,   I knew that we were gonna be busy over the weekend and wouldn't have a chance to do it. So I thought we would nip nip it in the bud, get in there quick. Obviously, because we've got one that's in a pot, it doesn't matter that we've got it early because   it's gonna go and live in the garden until next Christmas. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Lovely. So,   yeah. So,   yeah. We were a bit on the ball with it, but, yeah. We all got decorated yesterday. In fact,   Christmas decorations in the lounge and and a lot of the house are actually now up. So we're all festive, feeling festive, looking forward to the festive period.  

I'm I think my last day of work this year   is going to be on the 23rd December. So I'm I'm finishing late, but then I'm it means that I start later.  

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So I plan to have 2 solid weeks off over Christmas. Lovely. That's the plan. Yeah. Well, I finish work on the hopefully, by the 14th December.   That will be the day we say goodbye to the lovely nursing home, and,   we'll get all that holiday because we get paid for the whole of December.   So lush. I'm so looking forward   to that. That's lovely. So tell me, Maleficos, from a man's point of view then,   are you stressed out about getting your one present for your wife or your partner?  

[00:46:10] Unknown:

No. No. I'm not at all. No. Because because, so what me, and my missus normally do each year is we we're not extravagant people. Right? So,   at Christmas, what I'll normally do like, last year, I got her   alright. It was reduced, but I got her a a 100 quids worth of Pecoraban,   smelly, you know, perfume,   because it's not something that she'd buy for herself. Mhmm. And crikey, it's it's lasted of the year. She still got it. She still got some of it left. You know what I mean?   And at the same time, normally, each year, she'll get me some aftershave because it's not something that I'll just go out and buy myself because it's expensive. If you want a decent aftershave, it's expensive. Isn't it? So that's normally the Christmas present each year. But this year,   we are clubbing together   our monies for what we would normally spend on Christmas presents. And we're getting a diesel heater for our camper van.  



[00:47:04] Unknown:

So it's very relaxing. The romance that we made. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:47:09] Unknown:

Oh, that's interesting. Well, you know But Well, no. You say that, but this What do you need? We are so looking we are so looking forward. You know, that's our time when we get away in that van. That's our time.   You know? And this is this is basically   this   is putting money or, you know,   putting time and effort into   something that is gonna be   for our time in the future. So,   so your listeners know, I bought a transit van earlier in the year,   and there is a rock we've put a rock and roll bed in the back, which is basically like a seat. 2 seat, a seat with seat belts, but it unfolds into a double bed.   And we've had windows put in and everything, but the van isn't insulated, and it has no heater.  

Only if you turn the engine on. You know? So night times, if if you're really unlucky,   even in summertime, night time can be flipping freezing.   So   that   our our sort of gift to each other is we're gonna, you know, insulate   the van and and get a heater for it. So that's and and that's investing in our time with each other next year.   You know? So Lovely. That's what it's about. That's what it's about.   Anyway, look, I've been meaning to come on I've been meaning to come on to your or or at least provide content for your show   for a long time. Now a little while ago, you were talking to me about,   potentially, you know, having some, you know, the tip of the week and that kind of thing. And I   I pulled together a whole load of top tips, which I thought I would, you   know, phone in or or whatever. I'm gonna give you something else. Come on. Give us a top tip.  

See okay. Now some of these some of these are the sort of thing that you might find in something like, I don't know,   take a break magazine or something like that. But some of them are useful tips. Some of them are utterly useless. Okay. So you'll have to you and the listeners will have to decide for yourself which ones are   worthy tips and which ones are utterly useless. Alright? So the first top tip,   before you go gardening   and getting your hands all dirty, before you put your gloves on to go gardening in your garden, do a spot of weeding or spot pruning,   scratch a bar of soap.  

Do you know why?   Go on.   Because it stops soil and dirt from getting trapped under your fingernails.   So that when you go and wash your hands after you know, at the end,   you're just scrubbing the soap out from under your nails and nothing else.  

[00:49:36] Unknown:

That do you know what? None of the women have even come up with a top tip like that, Maleficus.   And I am thrilled. You've brought that to the game on a last minute tonight.   You're not only have you become a guest, but you have a helpful hint.   I do. Yeah. I was going to read it out in a very female voice, but my female voice isn't actually that good. I'm not very good at this. Show, haven't you? You are the first man out of all these episodes.   I have to tell you, listeners, Manifikus and I   well, we were doing, but he dumped me for a few minutes break few minutes. Sorry. A few months break.   A radio show called The Kernow Connection   where we both have a little bit of chat about what's going on and anything like some historical moment in history in Cornwall. Anyway, word has   historical moment in history in Cornwall. Anyway,  

[00:50:20] Unknown:

word has it that he may want me back in January. And it all depends how busy I am. We may we may well be returning. I I think it's a good idea that we return.   And I feel quite rested actually. I've I've, you know, I've got a few things that are going going on at the moment.   But a few things that I wasn't expecting to have time freed up on. I might even be getting Shelly to come and sing for me, folks, at some point. Wow. Watch this space. How   exciting. So,   here you go. Let's look look This is top tip number 2. Let's not lose sight of these top tips. Yes. Okay.   How about this one?  

Use tea bags make great hand warmers. Put one in a sandwich bag and tie it shut.  

[00:51:04] Unknown:

Now I might try that. Are you? I'm not convinced. I might try it if I'm really bored one day.   So have you actually been reading This one this one genuinely  

[00:51:15] Unknown:

is from one of those crappy magazines. Right?   This is this is labeled   brilliant idea. My umbrella snapped on a windy day, so I stripped the material off it material off it and turned it into an era for small clothes items. There's a little photograph there of her underpants.  

[00:51:36] Unknown:

Right. I'll bear that one in mind as well. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.  

[00:51:42] Unknown:

How about this one?   It was my friend's birthday the other day, but I forgot to get candles for a cake. So I decided just to use matches. It worked just as well and saved me the money, and my mate still got her birthday wish.  

[00:51:56] Unknown:

I like that. That's clever.   But I wouldn't have matches because   we don't really use matches anymore, do we? I don't think I've got a box of matches here.  

[00:52:06] Unknown:

Well   But good idea. Cheaper than handles. Box of matches somewhere in the house. Yeah. Somewhere. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, I would've I would imagine you'd have to be pretty quick. If it was like a 90th birthday or something, it would be like a genie on the top of your cake, wouldn't it?  

[00:52:21] Unknown:

Oh,   that was a good one.   So have have you actually been reading women's magazines   then?  

[00:52:29] Unknown:

No.  

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On your lunch break.  

[00:52:34] Unknown:

So how about this one? How about this one? You'll like this. You if you've got young children running around the house, and I know I know,   but occasionally, you do have young children running around your house.   So mini cereal boxes are the perfect size to cover the corner of sharp corners on a glass table That could be a danger for young children running around.   How about that? Yeah. It's a good one, isn't it? It is temporarily.  

[00:52:58] Unknown:

I mean,  

[00:52:59] Unknown:

this this one It looks very pretty good.   No. No. Well, it depends if you like the if you depends which box you like the design of. I suppose you could just get a load of those. Yeah. I I don't know. Coco the monkey on the corner of your table, on each corner of your table. Wouldn't be that bad, would it?  

[00:53:15] Unknown:

Very retro.  

[00:53:17] Unknown:

Yeah. Not into the box. So this one might suit you.   Kneading a sue needing a snooze after my friends drank my box of wine, I rinsed out the bag and blew it up and turned it into a party pillow. How about that?  

[00:53:29] Unknown:

Turned it into a what?  

[00:53:32] Unknown:

A party pillow.   Oh, a party pillow. Just blew the bag up and used it as a pillow to sleep on the couch with.   I mean, I would imagine after drinking a box of wine, it you wouldn't really need a pillow, but, you know,   I suppose drunken idea probably worked quite well.  

[00:53:50] Unknown:

Yeah. Okay.   I don't have boxes of wine very often, but I'll bear that in mind again.  

[00:53:57] Unknown:

Well, Christmas is coming up. You know?  

[00:53:59] Unknown:

Yeah. And I'm do I'm doing dry January this year, Manifikus.  

[00:54:03] Unknown:

I did dry January last year. I attempted it the year before.   Having said that, it wasn't as dry as I'd hoped, but I was fairly dry.   Right. It was it was it was a it was a slightly humid January for me.  

[00:54:18] Unknown:

Well, I've decided I'm gonna do it for charity,   because well, otherwise, I'll just give in. Isn't it funny that we can't do something for ourselves, but if other people are involved, we can do it? It's always like I can't lose that bet even if I just make £30.   I've I've made a promise to them.  

[00:54:37] Unknown:

Made a complete I suppose in some respects, it's easier to let yourself down than it is other people. That's the that's the right phrase. Yes.   It is, though, isn't it? It's much easier to let yourself down and go, oh, well, I'm not gonna kick myself over it. Yeah.   Whereas   if you're doing it for charity, it's like,   oh, you you you heartless person. You selfish heartless person. How could and that's what you'd be saying to yourself, isn't it? You know? Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:55:04] Unknown:

Oh, dear.   I'm quite looking forward to in it, actually. I'm waiting to see, like, if I ever get to sleep at night because that's the one thing I do like about having a couple of drinks.   But when I eventually learn to sleep, if I'm gonna feel all fresh and revived in the morning  

[00:55:20] Unknown:

Do you know what really works for me on dry January?   Genuinely, this is what what really works for me is a, having something   that consumes   my focus for the evening. So for me, as you would imagine, it would be some sort   of really like in-depth story computer game or something. I mean, 1 year, I put there was a there was a Terminator, you know, Terminator Arnold Schwarzenegger or whatever. There was a Terminator game, and it took me about two and a half weeks to complete it   in my spare time when I wasn't working and and doing all my other responsibilities.   I would just throw myself into that.  

I don't think a book will   I don't think a book would suffice.   It needs to be something that keeps you sort of semi physically active, I think, in some respects. So computer games are great for that. I know you're not a computer game fan.   That   and the fact that when it got to the point in the evening where I would normally open a beer,   I went and made a nice big hot chocolate.   And at the same time as making a hot chocolate, I would fill up a thermos   and bring the hot chocolate and my cup   into the room where I was playing my computer game. And I asked for about 4 or 5 hot chocolates.   And and the thing is, one of the things that alcohol does in the evening   is if you are tired, the first thing it does is pep you up.  

So   a lot of a lot of people who drink regularly say, oh, I don't know whether I'll sleep very well. Yeah. You will. It's the alcohol keeping you awake.   It's true. It's true. Yeah. Anyway, look. Not a not a top tip for you. Come on. I was looking for an eye catching kitchen clock, but couldn't find one I like anywhere.   I I decided to customize the clock I already had by taking some pieces of old cutlery and attaching them around the edge with strong glue. My new timepiece looks really unusual, and it gets lots of compliments.  

[00:57:14] Unknown:

I like that, actually. I'm trying to visualize that.   You do? A bit of upcycling.  

[00:57:20] Unknown:

Yeah. Absolutely.   How about,   how about this one? Don't waste all those last bits of cereal. They can be mixed together to finish them off. My grandchildren call it granny cereal.  

[00:57:37] Unknown:

Do you know, though, I get that back in the day when they didn't have much. We can laugh at it now, can't we?   But Yeah. Yeah. Actually, that's, that's probably the toppest tip.  

[00:57:47] Unknown:

So I've got No. This this one will top all of them. Right. Come on top of tips. You get like froze frozen pies, you know, like chicken pie. You know, I'm not gonna mention any brand names, but you get like frozen pies that you stick in the oven and take about half an hour.   It says after after you've done eating the pie, flatten the foil tray from the pie, and they turn into wonderful coasters to put your coffee cups on.  

[00:58:12] Unknown:

If I was desperate, yeah.   Yeah.  

[00:58:16] Unknown:

Top tip. Back in my day, you just use it as an ashtray, love.  

[00:58:22] Unknown:

Yeah. You don't see many ashtrays around like that now, do you? Not over here. I suppose people well, lots of people, they do smoke outside, and,   I see some wonderful ashtrays outside of work, plant pots and things filled up with cigarette butts. But   yeah.  

[00:58:37] Unknown:

Well, we're coming to right to the end, Maleficus. Thank you so much for, jumping in. Inviting me onto Women's Hour. Thank you. I've I've always wanted to be no. I'm not no. I'm not gonna say that.  

[00:58:49] Unknown:

You've always wanted to be. Well, you do quite often do your girly voices when you do impressions and things, don't you?   I do. Yeah. So the time was right. Thank you, my lovely, and I will catch up with you soon.   Take care. Thank you very much. Thank you, lovely.   Well, all's well and well, lovely ladies and the old gentlemen listening in, which obviously there are there are few listening in.   So,   apologies about Tracy not making it, but we will do another week. So I will be back the same time   next week. And after me next is Fulham Hall Radio with Eric von Essex.   Stay on and listen. Very entertaining.  

Have an awesome week, lovely people.