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Women's Hour broadcasts live every Sunday at 7:00p.m. uk time. 

Join us every Sunday at 7pm uk time for Women’s Hour, the show that celebrates and amplifies the voices of women from all walks of life. Each week, we dive into a rich blend of topics, from personal stories and current affairs to health, culture, and the challenges women face in today's world. With expert guests, thought-provoking discussions, and inspiring interviews, Women’s Hour offers a platform for empowerment, education, and connection. Whether you're tuning in for insightful advice, a dose of inspiration, or just a moment to feel heard, Women’s Hour is here to celebrate you.


In this episode of Women's Hour, host Shelley Tasker celebrates Mothering Sunday in the UK, reflecting on the commercialisation of the day and sharing her personal approach to it. Shelley is joined by Captain Jo Wood . They share humorous anecdotes about their recent experiences with home renovations and trips to the local dump, highlighting the everyday adventures and mishaps that come with managing a household.

In the second part of the show, Shelley is joined by her mother, Sonia Hart, and daughter, Maddie Trewhella, for a special Mother's Day segment. They reminisce about family traditions, share memories of past Mother's Days, and discuss the evolving nature of motherhood across generations. Maddie talks about her new passion for running, while Sonia reflects on simpler times when Mother's Day was less commercial. The episode concludes with heartfelt exchanges and laughter, showcasing the close-knit bond between the three generations of women.

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Good evening to all of you beautiful women out there. You are listening to Women's Hour coming live from RadioSoapbox.com.   It's good to have your company,   and you can find me on Rumble if it's actually working. My channel is Shelley Tasker.   So today's date in The United Kingdom I mean, it's the same date everywhere.   But in The United Kingdom today, it is mothering Sunday.   So happy mother's day to all of you beautiful women out there. I'm not one that really gets caught up   in the materialistic   side of things.   I've got a card here for my mom.  

But, you know, I've been to work. She knows I'm busy, and I want my daughter to spend the day with her children.   It's It's very commercialized,   everything is these days, isn't it?   Anyway,   we do have two great guests for part two.   This evening, my mum, miss Sonia Hart, is gonna come on the air. She says that I've just given her no option but to say yes,   and my daughter,   miss Maddie Truella.   So that will be part two at 07:30.   So in the meantime,   let's get on with the show. Let's catch up with captain Joe,   and let's see what she's been up to. And, hopefully,   this week, there will be no alarms going off at work and stuff like that.  

So   because on Skype is in with us for another couple of weeks, isn't it, to change over to tea? With us for another couple of weeks, isn't it,   to change over to Teams?   Probably doing a really serious job at the moment, Jo. Chasing somebody else. Hello? Oh, good evening, captain Jo Wood. How are you doing?  

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Well, hang on.  

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She's so unprofessional. She's getting worse by the week, isn't she?  

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No. I'm not. It's because you keep changing the format, and I'm like, are we on Rumble? Are we on Skype? Are we on something else?  

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I know. I know. I'm I've given up with the whole video thing on Rumble at the moment, and,   I just wanted things to work. So, yeah, we'll just stick to Skype.   How are you anyway?  

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Oh, well, you know, I'm sat here waiting patiently, and I'm going, oh,   come on. Hurry up in case something happens. Don't wanna tempt fate. And just as you started to ring,   some little darling came to the door wanting to get in, and I'm like,   dude,   you're, like, half hour late. He said, well, can't you open the door? No. I can't. I've got a radio show to do.  

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It's my worst nightmare, actually, somebody knocking on the door now, and you can see it, can't you? I can't answer it. I'm doing a radio show.  

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But, you know, there's more important things to do. More important things to do than answer bloody doors. Yeah. Anyway, I do apologize for last week. That was very unprofessional   and somewhat chaotic. We had a break in.   So, yes, it was,   I didn't get out of here until about an hour and a half after my finish time that evening.  

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Oh, crikey.   Oh. And it's like, yeah, I can't I'm doing a radio show.   I  

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know. I know. I'm like,   trying to look all menacing and,   conduct myself   talking to you. It didn't quite happen the way I   wanted, so I do apologize.  

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It's alright.   It is what it is or it was what it was. No worries.  

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How have you been this week?  

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I've been jolly good. I'm still on the up. I'm just bouncing today.   So much so that I think after the radio show tonight, I might just explode. I don't know. Just No. The cat did the photoshoot with the rabbit skirt.   Oh, that was lovely. That was lovely. What a cute rabbit.   Did you just pick one, or did you add several? Oh, no. No. I just did one. It was just for the promo shoot.   So that's all up, and we'll see if we've got any takers. But, no, it's been a busy little week. And today,   how are you feeling with this sunshine?  

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I know.  

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I know. I almost feel as if I'm being spoiled. Do you know what I mean? And   I'm just   well, I shouldn't grumble. I shouldn't grumble because,   you know,   we should be grateful, which is a sad thing to say really, isn't it? However, probably for the last, what,   three, three and a half weeks,   periodically   we will have two, maybe three good days   during the   week, and they have slowly increased   in frequency.   So I'm hoping   that the good weather will   fully arrive,   and we'll have a lovely spring   and a crack in summer.  

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Yes. I have actually got a suntan today. Well, I've got burnt.  

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Yep. Yes. Burn so easily.  

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I know. I know. But that's it. When I start, that's it now. And I was working today, and I was just on the background. So I literally sat at work all day in the sun,   leggings rolled up to my knees   and just   red bits. And I was like, right. When I get home, I need to paint my toenails.   And I ordered some new flip flops when I was at work because it's like, I haven't got any flip flops for this year. It's flip flop weather, and I love it.  

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I love it. Yeah. Of course. Of course. You know, a bit of sun. You've got to paint your toenails.  

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Definitely. Definitely. So what have you been up to?  

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What have I been up to?  

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What's going down with the farmers?   Have you got any news?  

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Well, we've got the rally   organized,   for the April 19. I think we may have mentioned that before.   I've got another little thing going on in the evening, but won't say too much about that at this moment.   What's going on with the farmers?   We're going to be   going out to pay visits to our labor friends   in council offices very soon.   We we may require your skills,   miss Tasker,   as a photographer.   So that would be good if you could,   the April   10.  

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If I'm not working, I will be there, and as long as it's not freezing. I mean, last time, you had me out in all winds and rains, and my fingers were actually numb.  

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I mean, it's almost   as if I've been cursed. Every time I've done a farmer's rally, it's been pouring with rain and even very cold.   I'm hoping as we move into spring, that will change.  

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Oh, it's it just feels amazing.   And yesterday, me and Darren spent the whole day, like, filling up because, you know, I've got Wesley's van now that I've got use of. That's Yes. That's what I'm driving. I quite like it, actually. But, you know, the thing is when you've got a van, you can do things. You can go to the dump, can't you, properly?   Yeah. So we we literally, we're in the garden yesterday. Darren's finished sawing up the piano,   and that sounds awful.  

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But Oh, not the piano you have in your  

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hat. Hat. Yeah. Until it got to Christmas.   And so   so many well, so many keys weren't working,   and we tried to have it tuned when we first got it. And the man had said, literally, it's that old. You can't do anything. And it cost us, like, £75   then.   So keys had just stopped working, and I had it in my head that I wanted that space behind me clear.   And   Darren said, well, once it's when you know it's going, we'll move it that day. And I'm like, no. I I want it out for Christmas,   so let's just put it in the back garden.   You know? So it's been out in the back garden rotting away.  

And, of course, dismantling a piano, you gotta be so careful because, actually, you could kill yourself   with the what with the strings and stuff. You know?   Yeah. So Yep. He was out there yesterday with his goggles on. I had my goggles on, and he's, like,   drilling not drilling, sawing away at metal when anyway, the piano went to the dump along with load of other rubbish, really, that's been sat around the drive making us look like gypsies for a long time.   So there was a sense of achievement.  

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Yeah. It's funny you should mention that because maybe I'm looking in the air. I did five dump   runs   on,   Friday.   Jippo Grey   has been over to my house twice helping me with my   home renovations.   So the en suite bedroom that I don't even use,   I just use the en suite bathroom to it, which is crazy because there's another bathroom. I don't know. And that's nearer. But, anyway, I digress.   So the en suite bedroom, I have finally ripped out the built in furniture.   As we all knew, they only carpeted   up to the furniture and not underneath it. So then I was, like,   yeah,   Three great big square   sort of patches   of no carpet.  

So I had to buy a carpet last week.   Managed to get it in my car. Where there's a wheel, there's a way.   And then I had to organize a carpet fitter.   They came.   Gippo Grey helped me dismantle the wardrobes.   I'm not taking them to the skip. I'm gonna try and sell them because they're quite good ones.   And the only reason I took it all out is because that room just wasn't big enough to put a bed in there. But I've now got a bed in there. I've now got them   I know. I know. It's coming together quite nicely.   Not only did they not carpet underneath,   but they didn't paint behind the bloody wardrobes.  

So I've got one wall that's well, you know, part of a wall that's white, and the other part is, like, magnolia. So I'm like, oh, now I'm gonna paint the bedroom.  

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That reminds me when my son did his room, and he painted, like, around his bed. Didn't bother pulling it out, just around it.  

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Yeah. That was kind of, like, what I was left with, but you're gonna be very proud of me. Very proud. So you know the other bedroom that was really the dumping ground in the other box?   Okay.   I can actually get in there and walk around. I can swing a cat if I so choose to in there. It's very spacious.   I did five dump runs,   and most of that came out of that dumping ground. I threw away bed frames, wardrobes,   not the ones that I've dismantled but another one, lots and lots of things,   so it's looking a lot better. I just need to tackle the dining room and living room boxes now, but I'm very attached to them as you can. Well, see, now I would be putting them in that spare room, out of sight, out of mind.   I I I will. I will because, as you know, I've got Mark coming down with his girlfriend.  

So, yeah, I don't really want them to think that I'm a gypsy living amongst a whole load of boxes when I've got three bedrooms to choose from.  

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And what would we do without Gippo Grey?   He's been here today to get the leftover bits of the piano because, obviously, the metal and parts weren't any good for him.   So, yeah, it's not gone to waste. It'll all be used for firewood.   Yeah. He's a little angel. Well, it's handy. Every time there's a load of wood, I just send him a text. Gray.   Got some wood here.  

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Really good. We yes. So,   like I said, he'd been over twice. I think he came over on Tuesday as well,   and he put up a great big mirror for me, that great big framed picture I've got of my daughter.   What else did he do? We did lots of things, and he's still not finished. He's gonna come back and help me put some more pictures up. So Wow. I thought you would do that yourself, though, because you're quite handy.   Well, yes. I could do, but   it wouldn't be as quick as   it would be when Gippo Grey does it,   because then I can sort of stand there and say this is where I want it, swap over. He holds it. I then stand back and go, oh, no. No. No. A little bit to the left, to the right, exactly there. I'm very, very  

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Particular.   Yes. We know it.   Fine details and all of that jazz.   Yes. But we well, we went to the Dump in Saint Day, and it was queuing,   I'm not joking,   for about I know. I said to the man, I said, I think I would like a job here. He said, I don't think you would say that if you worked here. And I said, no. But I've got my eye. All these skips I'm looking at, and people are throwing guitars out and stuff. Yeah. And I mean, there's obviously something wrong with them, but, you know, they have that area   where, you know, stuff that they sell on that's actually okay. We didn't have time to go and have a look. But we'd got there twenty minutes before it closed because we were queuing for so long.  

And then these two cars came up, and it was 04:00, and you know what? The council were like, bang on. There was only two cars left, and the man said, I'm really sorry. You're just gonna have to drive through. We're closed now. Two cars.   I would have just driven round the corner. They had to drive through anyway. I would have been like, I've waited this long. I'm doing it.  

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I would have just stopped in the middle of the bloody compound and started to unload my stuff and leave it on the floor.  

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Yeah. Two cars. It was a bit mean. But, you know, I think I've had some treasure before, like, at the dump. I remember once going, and somebody was chucking away a whole load of electric fence posts and everything like that. So I literally   fenced my whole field with stuff from the dump. It was brilliant.  

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That is so cool.  

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Yeah.  

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St. Day's, St. Day's dump, I just love it because they just take anything   and they don't question it, I mean you know when I moved house two years ago I got banned from my my own dump because   was, you know, as you know, I was   I was at breaking point, and   listeners, poor Shelley, had to witness that. It was it was not a pleasant experience for anybody.   However,   you   know, he just caught me as I was tipping over the edge, and   it was when they and I don't think they do it now, but two years ago, in their wisdom, they decided that you couldn't throw   black bin liners in the dump containers.  

You had to empty them out. So plastic could only go with plastic. And if plastic had a little bit of wood on it, you then had to dismantle it. And I was like, dude, I've not got time for this. I had about I'm not joking. On that occasion, I had about 30 black bin liners in my car. He says, you're gonna have to put them on the table, open them up so I can inspect them. And I went,   yeah. That's not happening. He said, I'll open them up. And he started to rip them and I just went, If you think   that I am taking those items one by one and throwing them in the containers,   you can jog on. He said, Well, you can't leave your rubbish here. And I went, No?  

Watch   me. I'm like, what's off?   I started to call me, and I just turned around and I had a very choice word that began with   a f and finished in a word off and I added to it, you pussy. And I think   yeah.   And he came with a little notepad and pen and took my registration number and told me I was bad.  

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Bad. I love it. I think, actually, so many people get annoyed.   Andrea was telling me, a couple of years ago, she took a mattress down there, and they wouldn't take it.   And she said she just had an epic fit, like, hello. Hello, people of the dump. I'm here with a mattress.   Why won't you take it? And I can see you're doing all of that as well. But Yeah. Yeah. I can as well. But some you know, it's a high powered job, Jo.  

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It is.  

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It is. Plastic, metal, wood, cardboard, gardening   stuff, it's it's important.  

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And and, I mean, fortunately, on this occasion, I did squash   all of my cardboard,   but they've, like, literally put scaffolding poles   put it through the little slots. You have to slot it through.  

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Alright.   Yeah. I'm not very good because other stuff, you've almost got to do, like, a little netball. You know, when you're, like, trying to shoot for a goal, flip it up and over.   But Yeah. No. They weren't too worried yesterday, and they have one skip just for black bags. And it made me think, next time I come, just chuck everything in a black bag, and then they won't question it, and you can just chuck it in.  

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Yeah. That is why I love Saint Day Dump, because they're very laid back there. They are proper gypsies.   You know when you have a proper gypsy, when they're just like, yeah, alright, sweetheart, in you come.  

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That's what I want. That is what I want. I would come home with stuff every day if I worked at the dump. I would find something and be like, oh, I refurbished that. Oh, I can use that.  

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Well, talking of refurbishing,   so the bedroom that I'm in   is all that   '19   sort of 90s   furniture   like the pine beds and the pine chest of drawers and so   I am going to renovate that. I'm going to do a Shelley tasker and I'm going to   paint them   with chalk paint.  

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Nice. No. I wouldn't use chalk paint. I'd use the furniture paint.   Through all of my experience, Jo, you know, I am I am an experienced   my children have laughed at me my whole life because some of the stuff has just turned out absolutely rubbish. But since I moved over to the furniture paint, no problems at all.  

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Furniture paint. Is it like furniture chalk paint, or is it just chalk paint? It's just furniture paint.  

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Chalk doesn't come into it. It's just the color that you want, and you don't have to sand down anything. You just slap it on.  

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Well, this this is this is what I'm talking about. So naturally, you know, as we've just said, I'm a person of detail, so I had to research all of this. So I went and had to look at B and Q,   and   chalk paint comes with   a primer   in it, so you don't have to sand down, think down. You just slap it on, and then   you can either   wax it for a natural look or you can put varnish or something on top.  

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Yeah. Well, I just I I couldn't get on with it. I tried it for years, and then as soon as I changed, it was like, wow. I'd never go back to chalk paint. Never.  

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Well, the only reason I'm saying chalk paint is   because it's water based. I can bring my furniture into work, and I can use all the tools here. They've got, like, the big air guns that you can spray paint with. Right. And I thought job done. Like, half   half hour, I'll be done. Just spray the whole lot. Boom.  

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Lovely.   Exciting.  

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I I If I if I've got furniture paint, that means I have to stand there actually with a roller or a paintbrush. I'm  

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I ain't got the time to I know you can might be able to do it. I don't know. You you do what suits you, but I'm saying no.   That's my advice.  

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I'm nervous because I'll go and buy it, and then I'll think, oh, I've just restored that one in there. It looks shit.  

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Well, I've got I've oh, no. Actually, I took it to the dump yesterday. I could've kept it, this special chalk paint soapy wash thing. No. No. No good.   But, oh, I've I just like because the sun comes in now. You can see. I'm I'm looking at everywhere, and I'm like, oh, I need to paint that. I need to paint that. And I was hoping that Darren would've put skirting boards in today when I've been to work because that was my plan tomorrow, but he hasn't done it, Jo. He's done everything   except what I asked him to do.   Yeah. But he has been busy yesterday going to the job. Oh, he's been busy today. I just wanted that one job done.  

He's cut the grass today. He's cut back trees. He's finished the piano off, and he's out walking the dog as we speak. So, and he's been Tesco's. So   he's done well.   Oh. You know? And if he gets back soon, he could probably go out and do those skirting boards really. Well, we've still got daylight hours. Exactly.  

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Get confused with the clogs going forwards.  

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Oh, see for the next week,   every time I look at the   clock, I'll be like, oh, but really, it's only this time. Really, only it's only this time.   You're part of them. I'm one of them. And usually now, the car is the right time in my car   because I can't be bothered to change it. You just wait for the clocks to change, don't you? But,   yeah,   spring is here, and what a freaking difference. The colors around at the moment are just amazing.  

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I know. I know. Well, I I fortunately   woke up at the right time because it was on my phone, the alarm, so that sorted itself out.   And I didn't I didn't even think about it. I just got up, and I'm like, oh god. Here we go again. Another day in paradise. Okay. Head down. Soldier on. And then I got in the car, and I'm like, you what? It's only 06:00.  

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Oh my god. I could have had another hour in bed. And then as I was driving out, I was like,  

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oh, no.   Clocks have gone forwards, haven't they? Clocks have gone forward.   So, yeah, I have to actually alter the one in my car,  

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but I don't know whether I could be bothered to do that. Just wait until the clocks change again, and you'll be right on.   Well, but,   I was nervous last night. Not nervous. You hate the thought, don't you, of losing an hour in bed. And I was really thinking it's ruining my Saturday night because I keep thinking an hour earlier. I haven't got to work tomorrow.   And then I was thinking, well, do you know how many other people   get up to go to work and the clocks go back? And what about those poor people that do night shift   and they lose an hour?  

Because they don't get paid for that hour.  

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I used to be one of those people, and that it it was a horrible   time of the year.   It was, yeah, a real slog, a real   slog.   Because you you   like, if you were relieving somebody, you were going in an hour earlier, so you were, like, losing, like you said, that hour.   And your   counterpart was gaining because they were only working   eleven hours, whereas I would end up working thirteen.  

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Oh, it's cruel, actually, isn't it? There's gotta be rules about that. I mean, how can you work an extra hour and it's just   it's not accounted for?   If I got into government, I would change that.  

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Life.   But, yeah, I didn't I didn't really sort   of notice   any   difference in terms of being tired when I woke up.   I thought, oh,   you know?  

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Quite peaky perky. I felt like that as well when I drove to Penzance to work today.   And, oh, the sea, the sunshine,   and just that little five minute stroll to work. It was just wonderful. And then when they said you're on background, which means that you're just you're in the background,   I was like, oh, okay. I'm not gonna be doing much today then. So,   yeah.   I know. It can be a bit mundane, though. If the weather was rubbish, you'd be sat inside. I would just be reading bits, and then people come out and try and talk to you. And, you know, I I am supposed to be working. Although I do get a little bit frustrated thinking, oh, just go away. I'm trying to read this. Yeah. Well, I know I'm here to support you, but hello. Just come in and then disappear.  

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Yeah. Just get what you need to do and then and then go. But I'm impressed you drove down to Penzance by yourself. Oh, I did I will go that far. Yeah. I'm going again on Friday.  

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I just accepted shifts because I'm on the bank.   It's like I need a certain amount of hours, you know, each week.   They were the only ones that really came up. So I thought, right. Okay. Let's do it. And it was quite nice. Nice to get out. Nice to have something to get up for.   It's because it's funny, isn't it? Because I was chatting to a guy that was working there as well, and it's like, well, what do what do people do on their days off? What hobbies have they got?   And I don't feel like I've really got a hobby at the moment.  

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Well, no. I've never really   you see, I don't get the whole hobby thing. I don't understand   about the whole   people have hobbies.   It's like,   well  

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Your hobby is your activism.   That's what you do with your spare time.  

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Well, I I would rather not do that because, you know, I think we have the discussion quite often that   I'm very comfortable in my own company,   and   I could quite happily   stay in my house on my days off and not get dressed and not go outside.   I mean, to me, that is just   absolute heaven.  

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Yeah. I do understand that because you work long hours as well, and I suppose for me, because I tend to be at the house a lot, it's nice it's nice to go out. But it's that feeling when you go to work and you come home, isn't it?  

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I don't know. I don't know. I just I come home. I'm then like, oh, great. Now I've gotta get all my lunch ready for tomorrow. I've gotta get in the shower.   Gotta get into bed, hopefully, for   half eight, nine.   You know? Because   I like my sleep, and I need to pack in those hours.   So I don't really get a chance to go home and sit down and do nothing. Was a bit late when you get home at, like, 08:00, isn't it?   Yeah. Yeah.  

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But people read, I suppose, and I might take up knitting.   No. Well, that's winter activity. That's a winter activity. I will I will progress in my garden. I still haven't haven't ordered my seeds, but I will do that this week. Yeah. So You know, spring is coming, so you've gotta get it in the ground.   Yeah. But we gotta be careful of the April frost, Jo.   Oh.   The April frost is a thing for gardeners,   apparently.  

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Wow.  

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Yeah. I'm learning. We never stop.   So  

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yeah. Talking about,   I bought some lavender. Yes. You said.   And they're like, you know when you're a little girl and you've got a doll's house and everything is dollhouse size, well these little lavender plants are dollhouse size, they even come in a dollhouse size little pot, and I'm like, you gotta be kidding me. I bought 12 of them, they were like   18.99   pounds or something,   and then I I was getting all excited thinking, oh oh, they'll be delivered soon today.   And then one day I got home and they were posted through my letterbox, and I'm like, what on earth is this? And when I sort of opened the cardboard envelope,   there were my little lavender dollhouse sized plants.  

I can't put them outside in an April frost, can I? No. Absolutely not. They'll be killed instantly.   Yeah. Yeah. So I don't I mean, but I've gotta get them in bigger pots or they're just not gonna grow, and I don't really know what to do with them now.  

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Watch a YouTube video. When all else fails, watch a YouTube video.  

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Well, you know, some of us don't have time for that show. Come on, Jo.  

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You're saying you're gonna paint your furniture at work?  

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Yeah. Paint your furniture,   two jobs,   DIY,   activism.   Remind me again what hobbies are.  

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It's you arguing with people and fighting for the world we live in.  

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Well, I know. I know. I'm I'm getting to the point where I just don't know if I've got the energy for it anymore, if I'm honest. But You say that every time. Every time.   I I I was just about to say, and cue Shelley. There she is.  

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Every time. You've said this ever since I've known you.   Yeah. I know. I know. Well, look, miss Jewwood, half an hour has gone quick, but I better go because I've got two other awesome women up next. Who have you got? Who have you got? I've got the one and only Sonia Hart, my mother,   and the one and only Maddie Trewella, my daughter.   So we'll have a I I'm going to set my phone up so I can listen to that. Mum is so nervous right now. She's been going, no. No. No. I'm not doing it. Then today, she's left a voice mail, and she said, oh, I feel like you've made me do this. So she's probably all stressy right now, so I better go and give them a ring.  

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Oh, Sonia, you've got this. You've got this. Of course you can. Radio debut.  

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Oh, bless her. Right. Okey doke. Alright, my angel. We will catch up in the week, and, enjoy the rest of your evening.   And you? I will. Speak soon, sweet. Take care. Bye. Bye. Bye bye.   Right.   So   this will be fun because I'm going to do this through Messenger.   See, and it's just hoping that everything works through different ways.   Right.   Now, Messenger, what's the link for later, Maddie? It's okay. You don't need that.   Right. And I bet nothing's gonna right.   Connected microphone nine one. Connected speakers.   Good evening.  

Oh, is this working?  

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Yeah. You're live. Oh, yeah. I can't get run this work work.  

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Hello? Let me check this out. I've got shorts on my way. I wasn't planning to jump on with this call. It's alright because we're not doing video, Maddie, so don't panic. Oh, cool. And that's alright because mum's there, and usually whenever we have a FaceTime call, all I can ever see is the corner of mum's face.   Cool. Happy Mother's Day. Oh, thank you. Happy Mother's Day, Sonia.   Thank you. Have you had a lovely day and been spoilt?  

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I've had a I am. But I cried.   We had a picnic   and see you made me a cake.  

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Wow. Wow. I don't know.  

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What about you, granny?  

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Yeah. I went out for lunch with Adrian and Anya   and Will and Rhea. We went to Nelson   at Port Town.   Lovely road. Oh, nice. Nice. Yeah. It was lovely. It's the first time I've been out for a real nice roast for a long, long time. Not at your carver and stuff. You know? No. I've not heard of that place.  

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And, mom, I'll give you your stuff on Wednesday, soon as you're so unbothered about it. That's alright. It's just as well because your granny isn't bothered as well. You know, I've been to work. I said earlier, you know, you've got your own family to look after, but my middle son did pop in a card and some wine and some chocolates for me. Mhmm. He was doing well, innit? Well, he didn't get me a birthday card or prezi, though, Maddie.   No.   No. He didn't.  

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What did he forget?  

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Well, we were supposed to be going out the day after my birthday, weren't we? And he probably would have bought a card on the way,   But, of course, I canceled it because I wasn't very well.   But I don't care. He's he's my son.   You could say he can do no wrong in my eyes, Maddie, just like you and Perrin.  

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Yeah. I don't know. He definitely gets away with more.  

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So,   mother,   I have a a question to ask because Mother's Day has been run I've I've gotta read you this a minute because I found it earlier. It's funny. We celebrate this   every year, but I wonder if anybody actually knows   what mother in Sunday is all about.   So mother's day in The UK has its origins in the sixteenth century custom of mother in Sunday,   which fell on the fourth Sunday of Lent.   That's three Sundays before Easter   and the tie in with the church calendar, which is why the date changes each year.   In 2025,   it falls on the March 30, which is today,   the tradition was that you paid your mother church   a visit.  

Either the church where you were christened, your parish church   silence on Sonia's line. Keep that dog still.   Either the church where you were christened, your parish church, or the nearest cathedral,   and you were said to be going and mothering when you did so. So it was about visiting church.   Oh. There you are. There's a bit of history for you. Don't say I never teach you anything.  

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Yeah. I would not have guessed that.  

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No. Well, it's just commercial rubbish really in there. I'm you know, I've never really been bothered about it. But so,   mom, tell me,   is there have you got a memory   regarding, like, when your mom was alive of something special you did on Mother's Day, or was she not ever bothered? Because, I mean, she had seven children. She must have been, like, seven gifts in.   Inundated.  

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Yeah. But we didn't do all this   then.   We're talking about,   you know, sort of sixty odd year ago.   And we never did all this. Mother's Day was   you know, I think the cards came in later. We used to go to Sunday school, and we used to get given a little postcard thing with a little verse on it for your mother and a little bunch of flowers to take home. You know, a little bunch of wildflowers or something. We never had all this   rubbish. You know, all this, you know, so commercial now.   And like I said, we just all seven of us would be bundled off to The Salvation Army and  

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come on with our little Do you reckon that that was so your mum and dad could get a bit of quality time together?  

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Yeah.   Yeah. She was she was a Salvation Army person then. She   she did wear a uniform and all in her young days.   Oh, bless her. But she knew. I didn't think she could stop her swearing, you know, because you're not supposed to swear if you wear a Salvation Army uniform.  

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Oh,  

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and it's slow. Mother's Day was nothing like this. You know, you you just didn't have it. It was just   you might have bought the odd card,   you know, bought someone with a card. But   as a child, I don't remember getting my mom anything. Not until the later years when it got more commercial,   and everybody was doing it.  

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And she wasn't really that bothered. She was she wasn't used to having anything for Mother's Day. So Do you think it was better, though, having less? Because every generation, don't they, they always say, oh, in our day.  

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Yeah. There's a load of rubbish. All this   somebody was telling me they went Tascos and it was packed out, and people buying all the flowers and   I just   I just, you know, I just don't  

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don't really hang out as you know. If Adrian and Ang are listening, they'll be asking for a refund on that roast.  

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Yeah. Because I bet you didn't pay for it yourself, did you?  

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No. I didn't actually. No.   I don't mind don't mind that. I don't mind, like,   I think what it is, it's just it's just the time when you should appreciate.   Just just let your mom know you appreciate her. Just say thank you, mom, for all you do. Yeah. You should be need to do. Get through those, shouldn't you?   Silly out of one day.   Yes. You won't lie.   But you, Shelley, you were born on Mother's Day March. Nineteen   nineteen seventy seven. Yeah.   What a wonderful president. You know? Aw.   I think it's wonderful. Your brother was born on Friday the thirteenth,   and you was born on March 20 on Mother's Day.  

Wow.  

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Should probably have been the other way around, wouldn't it? Because he's more the angel and I'm more   the troublesome one.  

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Well,   don't know about that.  

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So, Maddie, tell us,   because I'm I'm a proud mum to all of my children, and I love watching my children   excel.   And, Maddie, you're a runner now, aren't you? You're an official runner.   You did a race yesterday.  

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I just sorry. I thought you were gonna ask me about a nice memory about Mother's Day with you. Oh, go on then. Go on.   So my only memory of Mother's Day is when I bought you some things, and you said, it better not bloody say mum on it.  

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You always remember things like that, don't you?  

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You remember.   No. And that and that was the last year I was like, oh, that's alright. Then I don't have to bother that much. And when you said, I don't want anything else that says mom on it. I don't want these pencil cases. I don't want cushions.   I don't want mugs.  

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You don't, do you? You've got something pretty in your room, and it says mum.  

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Oh, but, no, I am a runner now. I'm,   I'll try I'll call myself back.  

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But So you came   eleventh out of 45 people?  

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Out of 45 women.  

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Sonia, I don't think you're being very professional at the moment.  

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I just had to take my cardigan off. I was very hot.   Okay.   And I'm getting comfortable again now. I've got the dog ear at my head. I can see him.  

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Edgar.   What are we like? And we do do this, don't we?   Have chats with our dogs   through FaceTime.  

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Okay. I'm looking around.  

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Do you know the last time we did a call like this, just the three of us, was when we went into lockdown?  

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Yeah. I remember that.   I've got a picture of it, the three of us. Yeah. Yeah.  

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How did we survive?  

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Three generations.   Just absolutely.  

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So going back to the running, are you gonna   is this sort of a competitive thing, or is it just for you something you're enjoying?  

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I think it's a bit of both. I started off as something I enjoy, but then, like, deep down, we're all a bit competitive, aren't we? And I thought, I don't wanna come last.   No. No. That was my motivation.   But, you know, it's good fun. I've got another one or maybe 11,   near Newquay, and that's another 10 k. And then I'm gonna aim for a half marathon   in, like, August and September.   And then next year, I want to do a marathon.   But that would just be to see I've completed it. And then when I get a medal, I probably won't bother again.   Was there? So I wanted the bucket list in it. Do everything once, then move on to the next thing. Yeah. Not a marathon, though.  



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Not for me. You're always telling me these things I could do. Could you run-in, mom? You could do this.   I've got a frozen shoulder, Maddie.  

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No. I quite like it, though. She put your headphones on. You listen to music,   and it's just quite nice. You know what? It's when we used to do horse riding,   you you know, the competition only went as good as the horse was feeling that day, didn't it? And you had so much literally riding on so many different things. It was you as a rider, but it was, you know,   I don't know. Is is your mare in season?   Have they woken up in a good mood today? And I think, well, at least with running, I don't have to worry about myself.  

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True. True.  

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So it's much more easier.  

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Yeah. And and what about you, mom? What sort of exercise do you like?  

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Walking. I like walking.   What can I do now? You know, I can't.  

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You can do anything.   You can do anything.  

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Yeah. I suppose I could. I just gotta be careful. I don't put that hip out of the socket. You know? You could just spin it.  

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Spinning?   Yes. You could do spinning. Can you on a bike? Oh my god.   When I did that, my   ass was so sore. Those saddles and I was I'm sure I was in the wrong group. You know, everybody starts. They put the screen up, and after two minutes, I'm like, oh my god. I really shouldn't have been here. But the gym wasn't for me anyway. Nothing like that is for me, really.  

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But No. No. I think when the kids get older, I probably won't go anymore.   But it's nice to be out the house in a at that manic time in the morning.  

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Yeah. And as a mom, I do remember coming home and sometimes sitting in the car for five minutes thinking that if I wait five minutes, they'll all be in bed.   I think we've all done that.  

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Yeah.  

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Yeah.   And I mean, really, we're we're quite lucky, aren't we? Because we're quite close knit, us three,   and we're still like your child minders,   aren't we, Maddie? And now if I can't do it, what makes me laugh is that I have your daughter   every Wednesday, which I love.   And   a couple of weeks ago, I had an appointment on a Wednesday, so I had to get granny up to come and look after Phoebe so I could go out for an hour.  

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Bless her. How cute does she look today there in those dog green?  

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Aw. She is lush. She is lush. She's beautiful.  

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Oh my gosh. She's just so mischievous at the minute. And, you know, I took her to a birthday party yesterday, and I don't ever see her really socialize with kids her own age.   She is mean.  

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Good.  

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No.   She is bossy.   I had to say, like, Phoebe, be nice now. Be gentle. Don't hit.   I was just those kids are hitting all the other ones, and I've realized it's my own child.  

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Take a poop. My chocolate mouth.  

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They do like to embarrass you, don't they?   And,   I don't think I've told you this, Maddie, actually, but when I went to see mum and dad earlier in the week, your granddad thought it would be funny to tell Pyrene   a joke.   Okay? And I'm not even sure if he really got the joke. Okay?   But he laughed and, you know, granddad has told him his first a bit rude   joke.   I'll tell you what it was because it's nothing really bad.   In the mornings, why don't girls no. Why do girls scratch their chins in the mornings? I don't rub their eyes. Oh, oh, eyes, chin. Doesn't matter, sir.   Because, you know, you do when you Mum, you tell the joke.  



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No. Yeah.   I just thought I told her you well, I said to your dad about it earlier and we well, I've been laughing all day about it. Told Adrian and Anya about it as well. Well, basically But they thought it was that funny. They said they think the teacher probably thought it was funny as well. Probably And they tell Maddie the story. Well, yeah. He told two of his, like one of his friends this joke. Alright. The joke was the joke was,  

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why   do, why do girls wake up in the morning and rub their eyes?   Why? Because they haven't got any balls to scratch.  

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Okay?  

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Now it was funny, and, I mean, it's it's a little bit rude. He's 11 years old. It's his last year in primary school, and he came and sat on the bed with me on Thursday night, and he said, I'm really cross with granddad. And I said, why? What's happened? He said, well, that joke he told me, I've got into trouble today over that.   And I said, what's happened?   So he told one of his so called friends,   and they both went up to the dinner lady, which is our neighbor across the road,   and told on him, basically, little snitches.   Crikey. You can't even have a laugh anymore, can you? So   she asked what the joke was, and they told her.  

She called Piranha over,   and she asked him, who told him the joke? And he said, my granddad did.   And she said, well, it's very inappropriate, and I'm gonna let your teacher know. Anyway, so Pyrene doesn't like being told off, does he? But, it was funny. I was just sat there on the bed in stitches.  

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Everybody's,  

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everybody said, I bet they all laughed, though, when they heard it quietly. I don't know. She can be quite funny. I was gonna say to her, like because I do see her in the mornings and stuff. Have you heard any good jokes lately?   Mean, ain't it? Oh, I know. Just let them have a bit of fun. Let them have a bit of fun. But,   no. It is what it is. It is what it is. Just another, I don't know, six months left, and we're off to big school.   And then,   yeah,   more time on my hands again. Well, who knows?   Yeah. What are you gonna do with your life? Well, this is it, isn't it? This is it. Because   I am at that stage, as both of you know, the last month or so has been particularly hard because I've been adjusting to that. I felt really low because I didn't know what was wrong, and it was actually that I've just been left in the lurch by my son.  

So and, you know, when they're growing up, you're just like, oh, when they're older, I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do that. They get older, and you don't wanna do any of that stuff anymore.   I could go to the gym now if I wanted to. I don't I don't want to. You know? And I can leave him now. We're gonna get a key cut for him this week. He scoots to school and sat to him, by himself and home again.   He's just getting, like, really independent,   which is great.   You know, you're not just gonna switch off being a mom, are you? But the point I'm trying to make is we'd come home from school, we'd crash out for an hour on the couch, watch a bit of TV.   That doesn't happen now. You know?  

So what are you gonna do? What hobbies are you gonna do? Exactly. I don't know what hobbies do people do. I might start learning the guitar again.   I might pick that up.   I don't know. It's funny because it's spring. You suddenly feel   motivated.   And I think I would like to I was saying to somebody at work today about the whole plan was when I left my job that I would go around to care homes and do some singing. Well, I thought, well, in the evenings now, I've got a bit of time to learn some of the oldies songs and   get an email together and put the balls in motion, so to speak.  

Balls in motion.  

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The balls are fine after that, Jake.   The wheels in motion. Wheels in motion.   But the wheels. Yeah. Not full. Wheel. You Maddie, you're just the same as me. You know you are. I get Oh, I I am. I am. Sometimes, though, my brain just doesn't work. And I said to Ollie, I feel like I need thesaurus.   I need, like, a word a day   because   I just feel so dead. I   speak in really simple language.  

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No. I know what you're saying, and you was doing that at the start of the year. Wasn't you doing, like, a a word a day?  

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Yeah. And then I've been like,   I've got a break.   I   can't remember these words. And if I can't remember them, I can't say them correctly anyway.   No. That's What were we trying to say? A conundrum.  

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Oops. You said it. That's because you weren't thinking about it.   Yeah.   No. The English language, I don't know what it is. It's just how our brains work, isn't it? But I always do that, balls in motion, wheels in but you knew what I meant. But, I knew.  

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Oh, it's just like balls in it.  

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That's your mind, not mine. It was funny. But, anyway   so progressing to the week ahead, I've got to take my mother out for a cup of tea somewhere just to let her know how much I love her.   And one day, Maddie, we'll use these vouchers that you got me for Christmas to go to the cinema.   Yeah. That'll be nice, won't it? I don't see much of you now. We tend to, like, FaceTime more than anything, don't I see your daughter more than you.  

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I know.   I know it sucks, don't it? I don't know.   You bitch.   I'm a blessing.  

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You are a blessing. Yeah.   And how Phoebe just reminds me of when you were smaller anyway. So but it's so much more relaxed. You know? Like, this week, we went on the bus, and we'll do that every week now. Go on the bus and then the park and yeah. I love it. I'm like that proud nanny, and I was taking photos of every of everything. And I said to the ladies in the bus, I said, I've got to take all these photos to show her mom.  

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Oh, I love stuff,   throughout the day on a Wednesday. It really makes me you know what? It makes me feel less guilty as mums. I wish that I had the time to do those things with her, and sometimes you maybe it's a bit of envy and disappointment that you miss out on those milestone moments, which is why when the weekend comes, I probably am quite miserable when I try and spend it as much with the kids as I can. Because friends will ask me, do you wanna do something on the weekend? And I think, well, no, actually. For my friend time, they they have eve Monday to Friday   after the kids go into bed. Weekends, that's real real family time, isn't it?  



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Yeah. Yeah. I think it is. And it's a strange thing when it's suddenly ends. I mean, you said, mom, that when I moved out, it was awful.  

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Yeah. That's why people end up having children again, ain't it?   Because their children go to school and then they start   getting   you know,   nothing there. It's really weird.  

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It's a void. Yeah. It's a void. Yeah.  

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It is.  

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Get a dog. Well, Granny's got a dog, isn't she? Yeah. I already have one.   Yeah. Well, last time when Wesley was that age, I went and got a horse and broke it in, and I haven't really got the inclination for that all the time, all the money,   but I'll find something to do.   We'll see.   So memories.   Memories. Memories. Mom, what do you remember then as, say, one of your memories of a mother's day? Have you got any special memories?   It doesn't have to be mother's day in specific.  

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Wow. It's just weird this Mother's Day because I never bought a Mother's Day card. First time for, like,   well,   probably fifty five years or more because I always bought one for nan after mother   when twenty years ago.   So I've I never bought one this year. First time for all that time. You know?   But I haven't got any memories. I mean,   all I the the one memory I have got is,   when you would do,   few days before,   a gypsy came around   with daffodils,   and they used to come around your door then, you know, selling them.   They weren't very expensive, but they probably put them out of the fields anyway. You know? So a gypsy came in with daffodils, and I remember,   your dad going to the door and coming back and getting some change. And then he went and bought these daffodils,   and he gave them to Adrian   to give to me.  

And Adrian come running down the passageway, you know, at Lower Pengegan   with this big bunch of dappies.   And I was delighted. You know? That that meant so much to me. You know? That's all you need, just something like that.   And and it was, a present for him for Mother's Day, and that was a nice memory. And then you were born, like, a day or so after. I think that was the day before   on the Friday,   and you were born on the Sunday.   So that's one of my nice memories   of, like, Mother's Day. Avenue, I suppose, was the most   best one. Yeah. The best one. Yeah. Must be. But, well, I've been out lots of times with you all.  

You know, we've been out for a while, haven't we? With Adrian and Anya and   and all we've been to the shower all the last. We went a couple of years ago on a on Mother's Day. I remember going.  

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We're very fondly.   How well we get along. We're very fortunate, aren't we? Yeah. How close we are and how well we all get along.  

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Yeah. Our holiday was one of our my best times as well when we all went abroad.   Oh, that was it was one of my favorite times because we were all together.  

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I don't think I laughed so much. When did we what did we go for? A week?   Yeah. Laughed the most in that week that I've laughed in my whole entire life.  

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Yeah. I know. You said you had a nice holiday. It was brilliant.  

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It was good because she had everything, didn't she? She had a hair straighteners, a hairdryer,   unlike me with my,   well, nothing. Please.   Do you know, mom told me, dear listeners, the weight, and I got it confused   in kilos.   So,   basically,   me, Darren, and Wesley, and Perrin had about three T shirts each and three pairs of shorts, and I was even taking bottles of cowpaw out my luggage because it was too heavy. And when we got to the airport, it's like, why have you all got such big bags?  

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And Wesley said you're all gonna get fined, and you have these Wesley had a carry on bag for him and Perham, but it was so saggy. It was like he bought an empty bag for the airport.   And he was we're gonna get fined, and we were like, where's all your stuff?  

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Yeah. The twenty twenty two kilograms, but you you looked on the scales and did 22 pounds.   So that's even that's half 22. That's less than half   of 22 kilograms. So you really was you know, you you didn't have much to carry.  

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We bought all of our souvenirs. We could chuck them in your luggage for the way home. It was really convenient.  

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Yeah. And I borrowed a couple of items off you, Maddie.   And I was like, we was actually washing a couple of Darren's T shirts over there because he didn't have enough.   Oh.  

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Crazy. Love it. Love it. And we will do that again next year. There was great fun on the bus, wasn't it? I mean, our vodka drink, which was water. Oh, I'm shocked. I was shocked.  

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So if Brandy gets out this,   what, one liter bottle of vodka and just start No. Adrian took it. Yeah. Yeah. But passed it around. Out of it, and I think, oh my god. She's mental, and I didn't know it had water in it.  

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Yeah. I was like, oh my god. Because the the mini bus had picked us all up. Hadn't they? Get to Adrian as it gets on. Right. Are we ready to party? Knocks back this supposed vodka, like, 11:00 in the morning, then passes it to mom, and she's drinking it. And I'm like, oh my god.   Never seen this side of her before, but, yeah, just how the holiday went, didn't it? It was, good from good fun from the word go.  

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Oh, I loved it. But we're all, like, best friends, aren't we? So it's just, like, good on hold of your friends, really. No filter.   No.  

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Just the whole thing. Like taking the Mickey out of each other, don't we? That's what I love about our family. We're all a bunch of Mickey's neighbors.  

[00:56:43] Unknown:

Yeah. You can't be a pet wipe and come away with our family, can you?   It's Imagine next time with Phoebe there Oh, wow. As well. It'd be great, won't it? Yeah. What would be great is have a one day, mom, you can have her in the net. Wesley, you can field another day.   Then Adrian and Anya  

[00:57:04] Unknown:

Oh, so you just get a whole week off. All in one park with her.   You're so kind. I do recall you doing that before with Theo. You would get back and, like, totally forget that Theo was there. You went running in one night, put your swimming stuff on. It's like, oh, okay. I'll look after Theo. Don't worry. Yeah. But Theo was attached to Piran, so it's two for the price of one, really.   But I was jealous of you all because, you know, Piran was always up early, wasn't he? That first morning, I think we was out on the pool at 08:00 in the morning. Everybody out snoozing away.  

[00:57:33] Unknown:

But Yeah. Every time I got up, I got up reasonable times. And every time I got up,   look for you, you were out by the pool with the boys, your mom, you know, Shelley there. Yep. Yeah. And I thought Raymond's quite quite a shame, really, that you had to get up so early.  

[00:57:47] Unknown:

Yeah. But I don't anymore because he's older now.   Yeah. So I'll be lying in bed. It'd be, Piran, you'll be saying, right, Piran, can you watch the kids? But, actually, you know, the other day, we he was Phoebe was at the top of the stairs, and he was stood at the bottom. And he said, it's alright. I've told her to stay there. And I was like, go and get her. I said, if she takes one step, she'll fall.   You know? And he was painting her nails for me the other day and got nail varnish on my lovely dress. And it's like, oh my god. Thing is with children, they don't think like us, do they? They can't see that danger. I told her to stay there. She'll stay.  

[00:58:21] Unknown:

I'll never forget Jackie once saying to Oscar. She poured him a glass of water, and she said, right. Watch your drink. As if, you know, watch it. Don't knock it over. And he sat there so confused, staring so deeply at this, like, glass of water so intensely.   I realized, oh, no. You don't have to watch your drink. Just mind you don't knock it over.  

[00:58:42] Unknown:

Oh, kids are great, aren't they? We've got it all to come with, like, Phoebe as well. And I think now, like, Piren being 11, he's coming out with some crackers, really.  

[00:58:52] Unknown:

It's, entertaining to listen to. Yeah. Why not use instead of secondhand?   Oh, can can we get it left hand? Oh, is that what you said?   Left hand. Oh,  

[00:59:03] Unknown:

it makes sense, doesn't it? Oh, bless him.   Well, look, ladies. We've come to the end.   Thank you for joining me. I wanted to do something a bit different. And,   yeah, it's been nice to have a little bit of chat, and hopefully you listeners get an idea of,   what my life is like with my mother and my daughter.   And I hope you've got good relationships going on out there as well.   So I shall  

[00:59:27] Unknown:

our family. Sorry? A wet wipe. I said it's not doing our family.  

[00:59:37] Unknown:

Right. Beautiful women, I will catch up with you in the walk in the week, and thank you for joining me.   Okay, lovey. Alright. Take care. See you sweets. Bye. Bye, mommy. Bye, darling. Love you. Love you too. Bye bye. Bye bye. Bye.   Oh, lush. My mom, she drives me nuts when she's on the phone because she always covers   you know, you can just see, like, one bit of her eye and stuff like that,   and dogs climbing all over. Anyway, we've run out of time. I haven't even got time to play the outro music,   but I will be back on Wednesday for the Shelley Tasker show at 7PM. Have a good week.