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Women's Hour broadcasts live every Sunday at 7:00p.m. uk time.
Good evening to all our listeners tuning in to Women's Hour on Radio Soapbox. Today, we are joined by the vibrant Jo Wood as we navigate through a myriad of topics from personal anecdotes to societal observations. We kick off with a light-hearted discussion about the trials of everyday life, including the humorous challenges of stepping out in public when you're not quite feeling your best.
Our conversation takes a reflective turn as we delve into the complexities of modern adolescence, sharing stories about the antics of young people today and comparing them to our own experiences growing up. We discuss the pressures of social media and the importance of instilling values and morals in the younger generation.
We also touch on the significance of Remembrance Sunday, expressing our views on how society honours veterans and the often-overlooked contributions of women during wartime. Shelley shares insights into the Women's Land Army and the vital roles women played on the home front during World War I and II.
As the episode progresses, we explore the evolving dynamics between men and women, discussing the importance of strong partnerships and the balance of independence and support in relationships. We reflect on the changing societal norms and the need for both genders to support and uplift each other.
Finally, we reminisce about how our paths crossed during the COVID-19 protests, highlighting the power of community and shared beliefs in bringing people together. We wrap up with a call to action for an upcoming rally, encouraging listeners to join us in advocating for important causes.
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Unknown:
Good evening to all of the beautiful women out there and the occasional gent that might be tuning in. You are listening to women's hour live on radiosoapbox dotcom. It's good to have your company. I'm also streaming live via Rumble. Just hit Shelley Tasker, and you'll find my page if you wanna leave any comments or live chat. And if you listen via radio soapbox, there is a chat, room there now. I haven't quite worked out if it's working properly or not, but we're slowly growing slowly growing. Anyway, today's date, Sunday, 10th November 2024, remembrance Sunday in the UK.
And I'm joined by the wonderful, awesome, young, lovely, noisy Jo Wood. Hello. Good evening, miss Jo Wood. Hello. How are you? Yeah. I'm not too bad. Not too bad. I'm,
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I've heard you've been suffering during the week. Oh, yeah. Oh, man flu.
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It's just that time of year, isn't it? Wow. I mean, my arms feel like they're about 2 stone each or something, and I've literally lived in my dressing gown all weekend. I did get dressed Lucky you. I know. I did get dressed to go to Audi earlier, obviously, but I didn't brush my hair or anything, and I didn't wear a bra. You know, when you just can't be bothered, I just put on the biggest coat I could and prayed that I didn't bang into anybody.
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Yeah. Yeah. We've we've all done that. We have all done that. Along with sort of, you know, back in the day with the school runs, I would go in my dressing gown, and I'd have pyjama buttons on, put my trainers on, and just a coat over the top of it, but not get out of the car. No. No. I used to do that. Please stop and just go, right. See you later.
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I know. I was just praying that I didn't see anybody I know because you usually see everyone when you go out shopping. I only saw a couple of people, and I just, like, waved at the distance. And I was like, god, I haven't even brushed my hair or anything, but I had to go and get the essentials. Darren probably would have gone if I asked him, but then I would have taken him away from doing DIY, and that's a necessity.
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How's the DIY coming along?
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Slow. Okay. Slow. Slowly but steadily. Nothing's ever fast enough for me. But, now I'm like hot one minute, cold next the next minute. But I'm being very professional and, you know, didn't wanna let the listeners down. So here I am.
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Excellent. Excellent.
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So how about you, young lady? How are you? What have you been up to?
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Same old, same old. You know, I really sound like I'm a workaholic, but I am not. You are. I'm not.
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I'm I'm not. You do work a lot. You work a lot.
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Yeah. I well, not by choice. Put it that way. Not by choice. Yeah. Just being at work. Little darlings keeping me on my toes. It was quite entertaining last week. Had, full on drama. 2 females, like, literally fisticuffs, and then one ran back into, you know, where she lived. And she got some eggs, and she started throwing them at the other girl. Oh my god. At that point, I thought I'd better stop laughing and intervene. So, yeah, I have been kept busy.
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Oh, it must be quite entertaining.
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It is entertaining because, you know, I I do I do draw a dim picture of the young adolescents that I'm involved with, but I see a lot of myself in them. And I oh my gosh. I was never as bad as what they are. I I really, really wasn't. But, you know, I just I just find it funny and intriguing that they still, in different ways, try and play people and try and pull the wool over your eyes, almost as if you were born yesterday, and you were never an adolescent yourself. So you've never never an adolescent yourself. So you've never done that. You know? So I I am quite wicked. I guess I sort of give them a run for their money, and, you know, I end up tying them up in knots. Like, well, no. I don't think you can do that. If you give me a good reason why you can, then maybe we'll have a conversation about it. You know? So I guess I try and encourage them to think their way out of it and think better of misbehaving.
[00:05:51] Unknown:
I should imagine you would be a good friend, you know, like, on the campus. Yeah. You know, I would get to be friends with Jo. And then whenever you've got a problem, Jo will be there with a solution, almost like a second mum.
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Oh, oh, jeez. Thanks. At least I'm not a grandmother. God forbid that ever happens this anytime soon. But, yeah, I mean, it's great because I do have my favorites. I do have my favorites. I've got, like, 3 of them. 2 of them are boys, and one of them is a girl. And I just love the boys. They're just full of character. Girls are quite catty. Yeah. I have to be very patient with them. Whereas the boys, I just call it as it is.
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Yeah. Yeah. Kathy, well, you would know about that, us girls growing up. And I tell you what, I'm just thankful actually that we didn't grow up in a time where social media was the thing.
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Yes. I mean, could you imagine the pressures of of sort of seeing people online, you know, talking about what they're gonna wear at the weekends, where they're gonna go, what they've done. Like you said, back in our day, we didn't have any of that. You know? And it was so much nicer because if you made an arrangement with somebody, you would go, and and you would, 9 times out of 10, know the person you made the arrangement with was gonna be there as well. And if they wasn't, you just dealt with it, and you went back home. You didn't have any of this, you know, oh, I've just spent x amount on, you know, an outfit, you would go, oh, you know that top you've got? Are you gonna wear that at weekends? If you're not, can I wear it? You know? So you would do that.
Now now you just don't have it. It's too pressured.
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Yeah. Well, I've realized it's quite funny. Well, it's not funny. Actually, during the week, I don't think I told you about this, but, I had a do you remember a couple of months ago when Piren was in a group chat and he said a very offensive word. Yeah. Yeah. And it was for a group of them, about 5 of them. Anyway, I dealt with it. He didn't know what the word meant, and he understood. And I said, you know, if he was in secondary school and you called someone that name, you would be in a lot of trouble. Anyway, done and dusted. And then this week, I get a phone call, and there's nothing great when you're at work and you recognize the school number, and you're like, oh, what's he done? What's he done? And she's like, miss Tasker, we've had a bit of a problem because, some boys have come in with a screenshot of something that Piran has sent them. But she said, I've had a conversation with Piran, and it would seem that this was dealt with a couple of months ago.
So Okay. He's got 2 boys in his class, but they'd oh, I don't like them. I really don't like them because, basically, they pick on my son all the time. Well, one of those in that group chat and this just goes to show, one of them had saved it and for whatever reason, sent it to these 2 boys, and they thought it would be good fun to go in and show the teacher and try and get Perrin into trouble. Anyway, it it was all doubt with, and she said, I've told the children now. She said that, you know, it was dealt with. It's an old message. But she said, if anything, it shows them the danger of putting anything online.
So when I came home from work, I put a big rant on the Facebook parents' page, and I just said, can you all please check your children's phones? And if you find this, comment. Because apparently, even that day, other children at the end of the day were all screenshotting this. You know? And, I mean, this is primary school. So It's a yeah. And, you know, he could be in school now, say, 5 or 6 years down the line or, actually, perhaps potentially 20 years down the line, make it big in the world, doing whatever he wants to do, and someone will bring up that message. And even though he can say, well, I was 10 years old when I wrote that, that's it. Be out of work for life. Well, yeah. I mean, I don't
[00:09:59] Unknown:
I don't think I've ever had it done to me. If I have, I've not been aware of it and probably got him by the skin of my teeth. But, apparently, employers do now do some sort of check on on social media pages on you. Yeah. That's why you wanna keep it quiet.
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Keep it private. Well,
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you know, I I have a little bit of a problem with that, as you know. But it's like, what on earth is the world coming to? Can can people not rely on, you know, their own their own common sense or their own senses when you're sat across the table with somebody, and you're thinking, oh, that they're a wrong one. I mean, much like you just saying, you know, you don't like these 2 boys, because they've picked on on Perron. I don't I mean, obviously, yes, that is the case. But you make that decision based on the feeling or the action somebody has done. And if somebody is prepared to screenshot something or, you know, find a piece of paper that you've written on and and you've said something or you've done something, I mean, really, that just shows the true colors of somebody that they're not a good person. They're a wrong one. They're out to cause trouble.
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Well, well, that's what I think their parents must realize because they these boys' parents, they've had numerous phone calls from the school. And I, you know, I don't know their names because the 2 the 2 boys actually that came to school after the Ukraine war started, and they moved over here. And that's what infuriates me even more. I think they're 2 cousins. But it's like they jumped into the classroom in year 3, and ever since then, there's just rife. You know? Not just with Pyrene, but so I put in this message these 2 lovely boys, and the moms would have seen it. But they were calling Piren racist all day and stuff like that. And, anyway, that the next day, it all stopped, and nobody had said anything. But one of the parents did message me and just say, I hope Piren's okay and, blah blah blah blah.
So, yes, we are a moan in lot as well. And onto that, I don't know what it was like in your area last night, but we have fireworks galore here. And it doesn't bother me. The dog didn't like it, but he sat down. And after barking, I kept stroking him and stuff. And you know it's not gonna last forever. And then you go on Facebook and the moaning posts, people moaning. I hate moaners, but the worst thing is they always remain anonymous. So I had to do a little rant last night and basically said, own your moan. You know? Absolutely. If you can put out there that you're not happy, blah, blah, blah, but you have to stay anonymous, shut up.
Because it's like, are you fat scared of offending somebody and that your opinion is not valid? You don't have to be cruel. You don't have to be rude in any way. You can just say, do you know what? I'm a bit upset about this tonight because it's upset my dogs. That's all you have to put. But, oh, the bitching and the moaning, and I've just noticed it more and more that people do all these anonymous posts.
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Exactly. Well, it just goes back to what I just said about, you know, sort of employers doing social media checks. It's like, have the courage of your convictions. Put your name to it. If you feel that strongly about something that you've spoken out on social media, then then have the courage of your convictions and and continue to back it up. Don't hide behind being anonymous. But you know that I used to work in that industry, and I was in it for 14 years. And the amount of people that I would deal with going, oh, you know, little Bobby the poodle or whatever.
Have you got some Zalchin, or have you got this? You know, sometimes they were asking me for bloody tranquilizers. And I'm like, they're animals. You know? It's gonna be a maximum of half an hour at the best of times. Keep them in, and and they will just be fine. But people have taken leave of their senses, really, haven't they? You know? I mean and I guess I guess there are you know? I mean, yeah. I I did have to give them medication. But there are animals that are slightly more sensitive than others, but that's where you you use your common sense, and you go, oh, okay. Well, yeah, you know, maybe little Bobby the poodle does need something because they're fucking Eilish strung at the best of times. Sorry. I've forgotten.
Cheers. It used to drive me mad. It used to drive me insane. I do apologize to our gentle
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lady listeners. I am shocked. Yes. Shock. Horror. No. But you you do swear. Well, we all do, don't we? And I think it's funny sometimes because I was only thinking last night about one of my friends. I don't see her very often, but I can be in a company for 2 minutes, and then I'm effing and blinding. Some people, they swear so much, don't they? Then you you just can't help it.
[00:15:09] Unknown:
I I might be one of those people. You're not that bad. No. But they do say people I mean, maybe it's a funny thing that they say, but people that swear are meant to be very intelligent. Yeah. I I don't I don't see the correlation with that, but I'm going with it.
[00:15:27] Unknown:
Cuss word. A good old cuss word. I I find it entertaining. You know, I was outside Piren's room the other night, and he was gaming with his friend. And, he said, you're really starting to piss me off now. And I just I know. And I just found it so funny. I was like, oh my god. Because he's just, like, turning into a teenager now. And how can I you know, I just try not to swear too much, but he's at that age where he's dropping the odd word? You know?
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Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, I mean, again, there's a sign of the times that we're living in. You know? I I don't remember being I do remember being that age, but I don't remember being that age and having people around me swear or me swear. I mean, obviously, you knew the odd words, and there were never any words that people would use nowadays to swear. But you just didn't do that as a child. But I think, again, like I've just said, it is a sign of the times that, you know, probably the last, I don't know, say, 25 years, it seems to be very, very different. You know, my daughter grew up, I think her era, sort of the late nineties, was the last decade that was normal as in society.
Yeah. You know, they got all the screen time and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And, you know, they're not a bunch of fannies and snowflakes. And, yes, they were being exposed to, you know, different ways of life and, you know, old old Billy or Bobby on a Monday was Billy and Bobby. But the following week, he was bluebell or, you know, something else because he identified as a female. You know, it's we're living in a time that's so difficult for children to navigate. I I I pity parents that have got to bring children up in a manner that is filled with values and morals Because teenagers are the worst, aren't they, really, to keep on the straight and narrow. Could you imagine adding in today's society to that mix?
So good luck
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is what I'm saying. Good luck. Good luck. Well, we need some good morals and some good church stories. I went to watch Perrin lay a wreath on the monument in our town, and I went to the little Oh, okay. Church service, and it was quite naughty because I was at work, actually, and I quite often take a little lady out for coffee. So I was like, come on. We're gonna go for coffee. And, on the way, we'll just pop into this little service so I don't get to miss this. But what was interesting was that in the church, we all had to say the Lord's prayer. Now all of the grown ups were saying it, but the children don't even know it.
That's awful. So you you think I don't know when how often you say, like, the Lord's prayer at churches. Do you say it at weddings? Do you say it at funerals? I don't know. But there's gonna come a time in their life when people aren't gonna say it unless they're reading from a script because they all have no idea. And also another one is the, the national anthem. I don't know why I'm bothered. Yeah. They did sing that as well because it was a remembrance Sunday, like, thing. But I can always remember my parents teaching me that because I was in a pantomime. And at the end of the show, they would always sing the national anthem, but my dad was like, you've got to learn the words because you're the only one up there, like, pretending that you know what you're singing. You know?
So I learned it. But I think I'm gonna have to teach Pir in the Lord's prayer.
[00:19:27] Unknown:
It just goes back to having some morals, doesn't it, of and and values. Without those, what kind of foundation have you got to stand on? You haven't. And therein lies the bloody, you know, state that we're all in. But I actually didn't I didn't see any of it. 1, because I don't really have a TV. And 2, if I did, I would've made a conscious effort not to watch it. I find it now, more so now, more so than ever, I find it so hypocritical, and it just incenses me to the point where I can literally feel my blood boiling. You know, you've got all sort of, you know, the present, and past leaders at the front.
Like like, they have earned, you know, the right or they have the right. They have the honor to be at the front. They don't because they're the blooming toe rags. I nearly swore again. I stopped myself. They're the toe rags that send our men to war. So what gives them the right to be standing at the front, giving it large that, you know, that that they're paying their respects? They're not. They sent our men to war. They allowed our men to be, for one of a better word, to be experimented on with, you know, drugs. And I'm not just including the last 4 years in that. That does come into it. But, you know, awful things like anthrax or or anything else, you know, they were told to take it because it'll keep you safe. It's set there's that saying, safe and effective.
You know, and then when they leave, when they when they've done their service, they're just disregarded. We don't we don't look after them. You know, we walk around going, oh, yeah. You know, we're very pay patriotic, and thanks for our servicemen and all the rest of it. But what exactly do we do for them?
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Them? Well, you think how many of the veterans are out on the streets and stuff? Absolutely. Dealing with PTSD.
[00:21:59] Unknown:
Absolutely. And what does our government do? Every single day of the year, 365 days of the year, they pay 500,001,000, sorry, half £1,000,000 every day to hotels across the country. Now it doesn't matter whether those hotel rooms are empty. That hotel has signed a contract with the government to receive money every day for 365 days of the year, and that amounts to half a £1,000,000 a day. And what what for? For the illegal migrants. Not for our veterans, not assault standstill being held over for. Yeah. It's it's disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.
You know, so if if I'd had the TV, it would be best if I didn't watch it because I wouldn't be able to sit there and watch them with their fake paying of respects. I just wouldn't be able to do that. And and that's sad, isn't it? Because it's such it goes back to what we were just saying, values and morals and perhaps traditions, you know, like your dad saying, no, you are going to learn, you know, the Lord's Prayer. You're going to learn the national anthem. It's a tradition. It's your heritage. Yeah. But governments just continue to screw over those that give their lives or give up part of their lives to keep the country safe because they're they've been told to.
And then they're just chucked out in their ear without any structure. And as you've said, PTSD, they end up homeless, but our government can spend half a1000000 a day just in case that they need to house some more illegal migrants.
[00:24:25] Unknown:
Well, I don't know when it's when it's gonna stop, really. I mean, I did get excited, and there'll be a lot of, like, now, like, the whole Trump being brought back in. Now I'm excited about this because I I like Trump. Absolutely. No doubt he's got his bad points. They all have. But what I see, I I can't help it. I just like it. I just like him. You know? And I was excited. I don't know. I think it was Wednesday morning. Howard texted me at quarter to 8 in the morning, and he said he's in. And I was like, I bet you've been up all night, haven't you, Howard? He said, well, yeah. And then he put a photo up of it with him and his partner both wearing their red supporting hats. But some of the stuff I've seen already, it's like it's got me excited thinking, wow. I mean, you know, he's not even in charge of our country, but some of the memes going around as well.
I think I've seen one of them last night of Camilla Harris serving, Trump fries from McDonald's.
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There's loads of them. Some really good ones. There are some really good ones.
[00:25:26] Unknown:
I do like a meme.
[00:25:27] Unknown:
I like a meme. Yeah. I think the run up to, the election, I was posting some really funny ones. Some very talented people out there that had done some very, very good, comical, comical memes. There was one, just after Trump got in the you know, you always see these shots of sort of leaders within their government office, and they're always sort of on the phone. Well, they did one with Trump and Starmer, and Trump was saying, right. Listen here, you you little communist Starmer. Your country is a mess, and I'm not gonna do this, and I'm gonna do that. And then Starmer said, don't you threaten me. I'm gonna tell my daddy. And then Trump's going, well, your daddy was a and it was just brilliant. But it was in the actual voice of Starmer and Trump. So whoever makes this stuff literally, painstakingly picks out individual words that are applicable to the meme and joins them all together as if these people are actually saying it. Fantastic.
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Brilliant stuff. But that is one of my worries for the future that there'll be someone that will use AI and use my voice and, like, I'll say something. But, obviously, it won't be me. It'd be my AI voice, and, you know, I'll be, like, facing 10 years in prison or something.
[00:26:58] Unknown:
Oh, gosh. Don't don't tempt fate. Don't tempt fate. But the flip side of that is if that was to happen well, there's 2 flip sides if there's such a thing. One, I'd probably be in the cell next to you. And 2 and 2, if that were to happen, if we were to move that far ahead sort of in in terms of technology, we would have the technology to prove that that voice is an a I AI voice of you. Mhmm. It isn't actually yours. So as clever as AI is perceived to be, we could use that to our advantage to prove that wasn't actually you speaking.
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Well, that's a good point, actually. That's a very good point, Jo.
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Yep. Yep. I like to be logical. Do you see any of those, sort of AI people asking questions like, are we in a matrix? Is the world gonna end? Are there such things as aliens? And AI answers them? Have you ever seen that?
[00:28:07] Unknown:
I haven't, and I've heard about it. I use chat GPT quite a bit, and not honestly, there's no going back to ever, like, doing a job application or writing without it. I just wouldn't go without it. Really? Yeah. Really? But Howard was telling me that you can do that. You can ask questions, and I didn't realize that it would speak back to you. I've just used the one that you type with. But,
[00:28:31] Unknown:
I I saw one last week sometime, and a guy asked it about the matrix. How would you go about getting out of the matrix and destroying it? And it was frightening, the answer that this AI gave. Like, the AI was basically saying, yes. You're in a matrix, and this is what you need to do to get out of it. It was like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The other thing the other thing, briefly touching on jiggery pokery supplements, but this isn't really a supplement. Have you seen that short YouTube video where I don't know what the drug is called. It isn't a hardcore drug. It it begins with a d, d for delta. I think it's d e a or d a e or something like that.
But it's it's mind altering, and a guy shines a laser beam on a wall, a plain wall, and he takes this drug. And this drug only lasts, like, 15 minutes, but he can see all the coding on the laser beam. And he started off by saying, oh, I just think it's me. You know? So he invited some friends around, and they all took it. And they all saw the same, but they saw different coding. They saw different writing, which kind of does and I I'm playing that down, but it kind of lends itself to the theory that this is a matrix that we're in.
[00:30:13] Unknown:
Yes. And that is one of my favorite films as well. You know, those feelings of deja vu. And in the movie, every time a cat walks past, it's deja vu and
[00:30:24] Unknown:
amazing film. Yeah. I mean and is there such a thing as deja vu? Or is it that, you know, it's a glitch? Or we've been we've been over this script before, and for some reason, we're we're reading it. Yeah. It is an eerie feeling, isn't it? You think, oh god. I've got such bad deja vu. I used to get it a lot. Yeah. Yeah. I I still get it occasionally, not a lot. And and I guess probably the last 4 years, you know, I'm very angry about the last 4 years. But one of the things I'm angry about is that it almost has eroded part of my humility for humanity.
[00:31:12] Unknown:
Yeah. You're very hard, aren't you? Hard
[00:31:18] Unknown:
faced Jo. You're not very forgiving. I I have I have many hats. Young Young Joe, pilot Joe, hard faced Joe. I do have many hats. But I I think I think, you know, I've had a lot of experiences in life, and I draw from them. And we have we have 2 mutual friends, and you were actually with us when they had taken a phone call from somebody that was very fraught. And, this person was staying with them, and I just replied, uh-oh. That one's gonna be trouble from the start. And they were both adamant. No. No. It's all fine. And then literally a week later, I received a message.
Oh my goodness. Did you call it or what? And I just draw from past experience in in making an assessment of people or things very quickly, which I guess gives the impression that I'm quite
[00:32:22] Unknown:
hard faced. No. I think it's I think it's good that you can see that because I'm I'm totally the opposite. I'm always like, you know, try and see the good in everybody. Give them a second chance. Yeah. I'm a bit too soft, but hey ho.
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Anyway, we Well, it wouldn't do if we were all the same. No. It wouldn't. It wouldn't.
[00:32:42] Unknown:
We've reached the bottom of the hour. So we're gonna play a quick song, and it is remembrance Sunday and the good old Vera Lynn. And then after this, I wanted to talk just a little bit about Tregathan Farm and the Women's Land Army. And I thought this would suit you down to the ground, Jo, because you're into all your farming stuff and what have you. Right. I look forward to it. Okay. We'll be back in a couple of minutes.
[00:33:11] Unknown:
Play. We'll meet again. Don't know where. Don't know when, but I know we'll meet again some sunny day. Keep smiling through just like you always do, till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away. So will you please say hello to the folks that I know? Tell them I won't be long. They'll be happy to know that as you saw me go, I was singing this song. We meet again. Don't know where. Don't know where, but I know we'll meet again some sunny day.
[00:36:10] Unknown:
Wow. I quite enjoyed actually doing a little bit, oh, of research. On the other show we used to do with Maleficus. We delved quite a bit into Cornish history of World War 1 and 2. So because this was women's hour is women's hour, I thought that I'd have a little look at some of the women that played their part in World War 1 and 2. So this is an old article. It's from the Royal Cornwall Museum, actually. So would you know where Tregathin Farm is, Jo? Isn't it a Truro way?
[00:36:45] Unknown:
Yes, darling. It's pronounced Tragedon.
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Tragedon. Right. I've I've got a problem. Nope. Glad you've pulled me up on that one. The amount of shows that I've done, and I pronounce words wrong. Anyway right. So by by January 1915, over a 100,000 British men who had been employed in agriculture had gone to war. Consequently, it was difficult for farmers to complete their seasonal work and produce sufficient quantities of food. One outcome of this was the formation of the women's land army in March 1917. A civilian women's labor force of mobile workers established to recruit, train, and then channel channel healthy young women into farm work.
At that time, Tregethan Farm, now known as no. This is another word. I don't know if I can say it right. Cole Kozlghee Manor. Have you heard of that? No. No. Well, was owned by mister and missus Alfred Martin. Their home became one of 247 women land army training centers, which along with a 140 practice farms, were set up on selected farms around England and Wales. Trainees were sent to Gagaffin following an interview with a local selection committee who questioned them on their health, physical abilities, and reasons for wishing to do land work. If they were prepared to sign up for 12 months, the recruits could choose whether to toil in agriculture, timber cutting, or forage.
Each of these skills were taught at Treguffin under the instruction of the Martin family. Schooling and agriculture consisted of the correct use of farm implements, milking, the care of young livestock, and working with horses. For a few, including those at Treguffin, it also comprised learning to drive the newly introduced motor tractors. The timber cutting, the Martin household would have provided guidance on measuring trees, cutting down, stacking trees, loaded and transporting timber, operating sawmills, and tree nursery cultivation and planting. Forage work tended to be trained on the job. However, the photographs suggest that at least some elements were taught at Tregafin.
For example, the girls are seeing producing bales of hay for horse feeding straw for bedding and cutting chaff into short lengths. The land girls would have been paying 19 shillings a week for their mom's training. This would have been increased to 20 shillings once they passed an efficiency test. Some of the most memorable of Jordan's pictures illustrate the group at the presentation of their certificates, which were given by Lady Ingburg Molesworth, Saint Alban. Celebrations appear to have included games such as leapfrog.
Now I did laugh if you could see the photographs of this and, that now they were what you call party games, Jo.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Games. Yeah. Good old It's old fashioned games. So between March 1917 and May 1919, 23,000 girls became official full time members of the women's land army. This was a small but hugely significant part of the 300,000 women who were working on the land by 1918, a part in which the Martin family and the Jugathan farm played a vital role. That's it really. Just a little bit of history on some of the landmine girls in Cornwall.
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So They're they are really the unsung heroes of the time, aren't they? You know, you've got the men that have gone off to war, horrendously so, but you've also got the women, as you've just illustrated, at home, you know, making machinery or ammunition, doing whatever needs to be done to keep the cogs of the wheel turning, not only sending supplies to the forces abroad, but also feeding the lands or army, you know, sort of farms, feeding the nation that's left behind. You know, they're they're equally as important,
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but I don't see them getting honored on remembrance of that. And that's why I thought I'd bring it up tonight because it is women's hour and remembering, like, famous women in the war as well. And I I did a bit of, and I did think about you for one of these, actually. Jane Kendi, at just 22 years old, she was a navy nurse, and she landed on LWO Jima and made history. She was the 1st US Navy flight nurse to fly an evacuation mission to an active battlefield and the first to land on a Pacific battlefield. Now that would have been your job. Yes.
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That would have been my job, and I could have well been that person in a previous life.
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Well, I'll tell you what. There's so many amazing people in history, isn't there? And, lots of these women, I won't go through all of them now, but, you know, the people, the Gestapo, the French Gestapo, me and you, we would have worked well on that, wouldn't we? Oh,
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we would have been the dream team. We would have just been all over it like a rash. Yeah. We would have thrived in that because that's sort of, like, you know, the things that we get a buzz from. It would be wonderful. Yeah. That was, like, back in back in the day when women were women and men were men. And, you know
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And some people will say, like, oh, women should know their place and, you know, they they shouldn't be involved in things like that. But it's not it's a difficult one because as much as I agree that women should have the opportunity to stay at home and bring up their children and things, it's not for everybody because not everybody finds it easy. And some people want the careers and everything else. So I don't know what point. I'm having a I'm having one of those bank brain fog moments. I'm not sure what the point is. Very well. I will yeah. We'll just blame it on that.
We'll blame it on that. But my point is people like me and you, we would have been wanting to be out there doing something. We wouldn't have been able to just sit at home and bake buns.
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No. We would not. However, is that because we are fortunate enough and are are talking terms of we. We are fortunate enough to have men that are strong in all that that encompasses
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to
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to guide us, to lead us, to lead us, also strong enough in themselves to say, well, no. You're equally as capable of doing it as I am. So why should you just stay at home and be the homekeeper and look after the children? You know? I I I support you in whatever you do. And and I think over time, probably I'm gonna say from the from the early nineties till now, and I see glimmers of hope of the tide turning. But, definitely, from that time period, you know, women didn't have a strong man leading them. And my belief is in order for women to thrive, they do the feminine does need to have a masculine lead. It needs to have a strong lead, but one that isn't crushing, one that one that doesn't, like, I've just illustrated, said, well, you need to stay at home and look after the babies and all the rest of it.
And we lost that. We lost that in the early nineties right up until now. And, occasionally, I do see glimmers of hope that women are saying, well, yes, you know, I do wanna do these things, but I also want to know that I've got a strong man leading me. I've got a strong man protecting me. I've got a strong man championing me saying, yes, girl. You can do it. Go out and do it. You know? You've got it in you. We've lost that, and we need to get back to that as women.
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Yeah. But you see, Darren is very quiet, soft, and gentle, but masculine. Everything about him is masculine. But if he was too masculine, if, example, if I couldn't wear the trousers, we probably wouldn't work.
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No. No. And I agree. But just because a man is strong in different ways doesn't mean to say that they don't wear the trousers. I will guarantee you that whatever the situation was with you and Darren, if he got to the point where he said, no, Shelley,
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I don't want you doing that. And let let's be honest. He will never do that. Oh, he said no to no to the piano being taken down last week, didn't they? Okay. It's the first to be coming. Yeah.
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We're we're go with that. You know? And there was there was no real resistance from you. You know? You you gave back a little bit of, what do you mean no world. Maybe you can do it tomorrow then. But you went with it, you know? And there's that there's that there's that strength. And I think we do. You know, we still need to be independent women. We still need to be able to do our own thing and have our own thoughts. But I don't fully believe that we can do those things unless we have that strength and that security from a man. And it works I get what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah. It it works both ways.
Yeah.
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I I had, like, a a weird vision the other day because, you know, Jackie, church Jackie that's been on a couple of times. Yeah. I really admire Jackie because she's just well, she's got a lovely life, and she's fulfilling her dream of helping people. And she's a vicar's wife, and I made a decision that I wanted to be a vicar's wife. So I said I either I need to find a new man, a vicar, or Darren needs to transform. I could host little tea parties and stuff like that. Go and visit people, visit the sick, the poorly,
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go and read them the bible. You will find that your feet would never touch the ground. You'd be so busy.
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So busy. Mhmm. Mhmm. Well, it was just an idea. It was just an idea.
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But but, you know, I mean, the only the only analogy, the only saying I can make myself crystal clear in in in my belief over that is to put the saying in reverse. You know, there's a saying that behind every great man is a a great woman. You know, behind every great woman is a great man. And I I I know I operate better if I've got a strong opinionated I mean, I may not always take their opinions on board. But if I've got a strong man, a secure man, a safe man standing behind me, then, you know, I I can fly that plane. I can fly that helicopter. I can fly that spaceship. But if I'm left my own now. I yeah.
If I left my own devices, then I will question myself and my own ability. Mhmm.
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Aspect of life. I see both sides. Always. You can always see it from both angles. And that's why quite often I think I just don't say anything because I think, oh, I see it from your point of view. I see it from your point of view. It was fireworks
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last night. Because because you see it from both sides, it's problematic. It's like, oh, god. Yeah. Yeah. I I see that that side of the argument, and I see this side of the argument. Oh, I don't really know which way to think or what to do, and that could be infuriating
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at times. Well, it can because I think I quite often have so many ideas, and I'm like, oh my god. It's just too much. It's too much. But, like, the whole firework problem last night, and I was just I've got no right or wrong answer for it. But, actually, there's bigger problems than I'm not gonna waste my time trying to decide if fireworks should be banned or not. Do you know what I mean? Don't give it the energy. I'm not that bored.
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And I and I think that's a good point. I think that, you know, the last four and a half four and a half, 5 years that we found ourselves in, I can only speak for the women that we know, the women that think like us. You know, it's been quite draining. So maybe we need to, you know, regather our strength and step away from things that aren't that important, Fireworks and, you know, having pointless discussions on social media about stuff. Regain our our independence as women from that rubbish.
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Yeah. And I think I have stepped back quite a bit, but, I mean, you You have. You are a bookworm, and I urge you listeners to follow Jo on Facebook. Jo. Jo Wood. Cool. She's a ranter, I tell you. No. You've you've always got a good topic of conversation and a good viewpoint is always an interesting read. You are the blogger. You are. Yeah. And there was a time and sometimes I get inspired and think, oh, I could have a little rant, and then it passes. And, but as I said last night, if you've got a voice, use it if you can rather than staying behind an anonymous conman.
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Yes. Yeah. I'd I'd I'd don't I don't advocate that idea. I think whether you're right or whether you're wrong, you should have the courage of your convictions, and you should be you should be accepting enough. If somebody tells you that you're wrong, you shouldn't go on the defensive. You should be able to to reason and to try and understand what they've just explained to you from a different point of view, to understand either you're wrong or you can see it from their point of view. You know, that that's really the only way that we all learn is, you know, we, for for some reason, we all hold certain beliefs.
And until somebody challenges you on that, you're never really gonna see outside of your own belief system. You're never really gonna grow. You're never really gonna learn how other people think or what other people think. But I think it goes down to education and more so in this time that we're not taught how to debate. We're not taught how to take into consideration other people's viewpoints and ideas without being upset about them or getting offended by them and and you know? So yeah. I I champion every woman out there. Have the courage of your convictions. Whether you're right or wrong, say it.
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Say it as it is. Yeah. Definitely. And I suppose I ought to just say, really, we've got, what, about 6 minutes left of how, myself and Jo met. Well, in the COVID times, we both found our tribe. And isn't it amazing how Facebook brings people together? At my first protest, at Plymouth, I think it was, Joe was It was. It was, and they see that video when it pops up, and I'm like, oh, there's Joe. But I didn't know her then. Didn't know her then. And it's amazing how things progress, isn't it? Here we are now 4 years on. Yeah. And Yeah. We've become, well, dare I say it, best of buddies, really.
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We we have. We are. We are. Absolutely. Yeah. I remember that day like it was yesterday. You know, I was talking to another random stranger on that rally and, that because there was talk of a a coach going to London, and they said, oh, it's it's Shelley. And I'm like, who's Shelley? And they pointed you out, and you had a camera, didn't you? And I went, lady, lady with the camera. You.
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Are you the bus lady?
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The bus lady is what I said. Yeah. Are you the bus lady? Yeah. And and that's how it went on, really. And none of us knew anybody. It was interesting. The majority were women, again, on that on that rally. And we didn't know anybody, but we were, you know, with our placards, we started out on the ho. We had a little walk into town. And none of us were shy in coming forward. We were all saying what we believed. You know? And we were telling the public what we believed. And that was interesting because at that point in time, nobody had formed any friendships whatsoever.
We were with a group, but we were still very individual in in what we were saying. And that's interesting, isn't it? And I think if you look back over history yeah. Alright. You've got great leaders and great orators that are men, but they're outnumbered by the women that have been great leaders and great orators. They've they've spoken to large swathes of people. They've held people's attentions, and it is the women that get the job done. It is. It is. Yeah.
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Mental because it was majority women everywhere, wasn't it, in COVID times that were standing up and
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Yeah. Organizing. Have to look at it as well. So, you know, picking up on the the land, girls, and sort of, you know, the farming industry and what's happening now. Yeah. Okay. Farmers, men are speaking up, but the majority in, the Facebook page, Farmers Movement Cornwall, is women. And I know that because I'm part of the admin team, and I see the statistics. The majority are women.
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That is interesting. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. There is. So, you know, without us, the world is gonna come to a standstill.
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You said it. You said it. And we've got a good rally coming up in a couple of weeks, haven't
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we? We have indeed. That will be in, Truro, 23rd November. For any ladies out there that are driving tractors or 4 by fours, They can meet up at Truro Cattle Market at, 12 PM. And they will be setting off from there, taking a route down to Truro, Victoria Square for 12:30. But anybody that's on foot that wants to support, more the merrier. Come with placards, farming related, food security related, Victoria Square in Truro for 12 PM, and you will be assigned your position.
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And you don't have to be scared by that. Jo will just tell you what stand.
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She'll be very bossy. You over that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, You know, another facet of me will come out from from the closet somewhere, and I'll be wearing a different hat. And then afterwards, I'll just be very sort of, you know, very quiet, very, very demure. But on on those occasions drinking
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vodka out of a Coke bottle like last time.
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That was so funny. Think it's way. Now let let me just say well, say for the listeners, we did a very, very big rally. And, yeah, that was very nerve wracking that day, so I did need something to calm my nerves. No. I don't think I will on this occasion. I don't I don't think I will.
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You're in the swing of it now. You know how these things run.
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I do. I do. So, I'll just take it in my stride.
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Right. Well, I'm looking forward to that anyway. Well, Jo, we have come to the end of the hour. I'd like to thank you for your fun, Jo. I know. I know. It's just like when we chat, chat, chat, chat. It's good. It's all good stuff. Well, thank you for your company, my lovely, and thank you, dear listeners. We will be back the same time next week. Hope you have an awesome week. And, you know, go to the Rumble channel. Look for Shelley Tasker. Do give me a like. Give me a subscribe. My numbers are slowly growing. It's not all about numbers, but, it's nice to know when people listen. If you give it a thumbs up, it it's nice. It's nice. It's nice to show that you appreciate it. And we're not asking for any money, just a like.
Right, miss Jo, the lovely Jo Wood. And listeners, we will be back the same time next week. Have a very awesome week.
Good evening to all of the beautiful women out there and the occasional gent that might be tuning in. You are listening to women's hour live on radiosoapbox dotcom. It's good to have your company. I'm also streaming live via Rumble. Just hit Shelley Tasker, and you'll find my page if you wanna leave any comments or live chat. And if you listen via radio soapbox, there is a chat, room there now. I haven't quite worked out if it's working properly or not, but we're slowly growing slowly growing. Anyway, today's date, Sunday, 10th November 2024, remembrance Sunday in the UK.
And I'm joined by the wonderful, awesome, young, lovely, noisy Jo Wood. Hello. Good evening, miss Jo Wood. Hello. How are you? Yeah. I'm not too bad. Not too bad. I'm,
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I've heard you've been suffering during the week. Oh, yeah. Oh, man flu.
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It's just that time of year, isn't it? Wow. I mean, my arms feel like they're about 2 stone each or something, and I've literally lived in my dressing gown all weekend. I did get dressed Lucky you. I know. I did get dressed to go to Audi earlier, obviously, but I didn't brush my hair or anything, and I didn't wear a bra. You know, when you just can't be bothered, I just put on the biggest coat I could and prayed that I didn't bang into anybody.
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Yeah. Yeah. We've we've all done that. We have all done that. Along with sort of, you know, back in the day with the school runs, I would go in my dressing gown, and I'd have pyjama buttons on, put my trainers on, and just a coat over the top of it, but not get out of the car. No. No. I used to do that. Please stop and just go, right. See you later.
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I know. I was just praying that I didn't see anybody I know because you usually see everyone when you go out shopping. I only saw a couple of people, and I just, like, waved at the distance. And I was like, god, I haven't even brushed my hair or anything, but I had to go and get the essentials. Darren probably would have gone if I asked him, but then I would have taken him away from doing DIY, and that's a necessity.
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How's the DIY coming along?
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Slow. Okay. Slow. Slowly but steadily. Nothing's ever fast enough for me. But, now I'm like hot one minute, cold next the next minute. But I'm being very professional and, you know, didn't wanna let the listeners down. So here I am.
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Excellent. Excellent.
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So how about you, young lady? How are you? What have you been up to?
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Same old, same old. You know, I really sound like I'm a workaholic, but I am not. You are. I'm not.
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I'm I'm not. You do work a lot. You work a lot.
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Yeah. I well, not by choice. Put it that way. Not by choice. Yeah. Just being at work. Little darlings keeping me on my toes. It was quite entertaining last week. Had, full on drama. 2 females, like, literally fisticuffs, and then one ran back into, you know, where she lived. And she got some eggs, and she started throwing them at the other girl. Oh my god. At that point, I thought I'd better stop laughing and intervene. So, yeah, I have been kept busy.
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Oh, it must be quite entertaining.
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It is entertaining because, you know, I I do I do draw a dim picture of the young adolescents that I'm involved with, but I see a lot of myself in them. And I oh my gosh. I was never as bad as what they are. I I really, really wasn't. But, you know, I just I just find it funny and intriguing that they still, in different ways, try and play people and try and pull the wool over your eyes, almost as if you were born yesterday, and you were never an adolescent yourself. So you've never never an adolescent yourself. So you've never done that. You know? So I I am quite wicked. I guess I sort of give them a run for their money, and, you know, I end up tying them up in knots. Like, well, no. I don't think you can do that. If you give me a good reason why you can, then maybe we'll have a conversation about it. You know? So I guess I try and encourage them to think their way out of it and think better of misbehaving.
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I should imagine you would be a good friend, you know, like, on the campus. Yeah. You know, I would get to be friends with Jo. And then whenever you've got a problem, Jo will be there with a solution, almost like a second mum.
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Oh, oh, jeez. Thanks. At least I'm not a grandmother. God forbid that ever happens this anytime soon. But, yeah, I mean, it's great because I do have my favorites. I do have my favorites. I've got, like, 3 of them. 2 of them are boys, and one of them is a girl. And I just love the boys. They're just full of character. Girls are quite catty. Yeah. I have to be very patient with them. Whereas the boys, I just call it as it is.
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Yeah. Yeah. Kathy, well, you would know about that, us girls growing up. And I tell you what, I'm just thankful actually that we didn't grow up in a time where social media was the thing.
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Yes. I mean, could you imagine the pressures of of sort of seeing people online, you know, talking about what they're gonna wear at the weekends, where they're gonna go, what they've done. Like you said, back in our day, we didn't have any of that. You know? And it was so much nicer because if you made an arrangement with somebody, you would go, and and you would, 9 times out of 10, know the person you made the arrangement with was gonna be there as well. And if they wasn't, you just dealt with it, and you went back home. You didn't have any of this, you know, oh, I've just spent x amount on, you know, an outfit, you would go, oh, you know that top you've got? Are you gonna wear that at weekends? If you're not, can I wear it? You know? So you would do that.
Now now you just don't have it. It's too pressured.
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Yeah. Well, I've realized it's quite funny. Well, it's not funny. Actually, during the week, I don't think I told you about this, but, I had a do you remember a couple of months ago when Piren was in a group chat and he said a very offensive word. Yeah. Yeah. And it was for a group of them, about 5 of them. Anyway, I dealt with it. He didn't know what the word meant, and he understood. And I said, you know, if he was in secondary school and you called someone that name, you would be in a lot of trouble. Anyway, done and dusted. And then this week, I get a phone call, and there's nothing great when you're at work and you recognize the school number, and you're like, oh, what's he done? What's he done? And she's like, miss Tasker, we've had a bit of a problem because, some boys have come in with a screenshot of something that Piran has sent them. But she said, I've had a conversation with Piran, and it would seem that this was dealt with a couple of months ago.
So Okay. He's got 2 boys in his class, but they'd oh, I don't like them. I really don't like them because, basically, they pick on my son all the time. Well, one of those in that group chat and this just goes to show, one of them had saved it and for whatever reason, sent it to these 2 boys, and they thought it would be good fun to go in and show the teacher and try and get Perrin into trouble. Anyway, it it was all doubt with, and she said, I've told the children now. She said that, you know, it was dealt with. It's an old message. But she said, if anything, it shows them the danger of putting anything online.
So when I came home from work, I put a big rant on the Facebook parents' page, and I just said, can you all please check your children's phones? And if you find this, comment. Because apparently, even that day, other children at the end of the day were all screenshotting this. You know? And, I mean, this is primary school. So It's a yeah. And, you know, he could be in school now, say, 5 or 6 years down the line or, actually, perhaps potentially 20 years down the line, make it big in the world, doing whatever he wants to do, and someone will bring up that message. And even though he can say, well, I was 10 years old when I wrote that, that's it. Be out of work for life. Well, yeah. I mean, I don't
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I don't think I've ever had it done to me. If I have, I've not been aware of it and probably got him by the skin of my teeth. But, apparently, employers do now do some sort of check on on social media pages on you. Yeah. That's why you wanna keep it quiet.
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Keep it private. Well,
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you know, I I have a little bit of a problem with that, as you know. But it's like, what on earth is the world coming to? Can can people not rely on, you know, their own their own common sense or their own senses when you're sat across the table with somebody, and you're thinking, oh, that they're a wrong one. I mean, much like you just saying, you know, you don't like these 2 boys, because they've picked on on Perron. I don't I mean, obviously, yes, that is the case. But you make that decision based on the feeling or the action somebody has done. And if somebody is prepared to screenshot something or, you know, find a piece of paper that you've written on and and you've said something or you've done something, I mean, really, that just shows the true colors of somebody that they're not a good person. They're a wrong one. They're out to cause trouble.
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Well, well, that's what I think their parents must realize because they these boys' parents, they've had numerous phone calls from the school. And I, you know, I don't know their names because the 2 the 2 boys actually that came to school after the Ukraine war started, and they moved over here. And that's what infuriates me even more. I think they're 2 cousins. But it's like they jumped into the classroom in year 3, and ever since then, there's just rife. You know? Not just with Pyrene, but so I put in this message these 2 lovely boys, and the moms would have seen it. But they were calling Piren racist all day and stuff like that. And, anyway, that the next day, it all stopped, and nobody had said anything. But one of the parents did message me and just say, I hope Piren's okay and, blah blah blah blah.
So, yes, we are a moan in lot as well. And onto that, I don't know what it was like in your area last night, but we have fireworks galore here. And it doesn't bother me. The dog didn't like it, but he sat down. And after barking, I kept stroking him and stuff. And you know it's not gonna last forever. And then you go on Facebook and the moaning posts, people moaning. I hate moaners, but the worst thing is they always remain anonymous. So I had to do a little rant last night and basically said, own your moan. You know? Absolutely. If you can put out there that you're not happy, blah, blah, blah, but you have to stay anonymous, shut up.
Because it's like, are you fat scared of offending somebody and that your opinion is not valid? You don't have to be cruel. You don't have to be rude in any way. You can just say, do you know what? I'm a bit upset about this tonight because it's upset my dogs. That's all you have to put. But, oh, the bitching and the moaning, and I've just noticed it more and more that people do all these anonymous posts.
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Exactly. Well, it just goes back to what I just said about, you know, sort of employers doing social media checks. It's like, have the courage of your convictions. Put your name to it. If you feel that strongly about something that you've spoken out on social media, then then have the courage of your convictions and and continue to back it up. Don't hide behind being anonymous. But you know that I used to work in that industry, and I was in it for 14 years. And the amount of people that I would deal with going, oh, you know, little Bobby the poodle or whatever.
Have you got some Zalchin, or have you got this? You know, sometimes they were asking me for bloody tranquilizers. And I'm like, they're animals. You know? It's gonna be a maximum of half an hour at the best of times. Keep them in, and and they will just be fine. But people have taken leave of their senses, really, haven't they? You know? I mean and I guess I guess there are you know? I mean, yeah. I I did have to give them medication. But there are animals that are slightly more sensitive than others, but that's where you you use your common sense, and you go, oh, okay. Well, yeah, you know, maybe little Bobby the poodle does need something because they're fucking Eilish strung at the best of times. Sorry. I've forgotten.
Cheers. It used to drive me mad. It used to drive me insane. I do apologize to our gentle
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lady listeners. I am shocked. Yes. Shock. Horror. No. But you you do swear. Well, we all do, don't we? And I think it's funny sometimes because I was only thinking last night about one of my friends. I don't see her very often, but I can be in a company for 2 minutes, and then I'm effing and blinding. Some people, they swear so much, don't they? Then you you just can't help it.
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I I might be one of those people. You're not that bad. No. But they do say people I mean, maybe it's a funny thing that they say, but people that swear are meant to be very intelligent. Yeah. I I don't I don't see the correlation with that, but I'm going with it.
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Cuss word. A good old cuss word. I I find it entertaining. You know, I was outside Piren's room the other night, and he was gaming with his friend. And, he said, you're really starting to piss me off now. And I just I know. And I just found it so funny. I was like, oh my god. Because he's just, like, turning into a teenager now. And how can I you know, I just try not to swear too much, but he's at that age where he's dropping the odd word? You know?
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Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, I mean, again, there's a sign of the times that we're living in. You know? I I don't remember being I do remember being that age, but I don't remember being that age and having people around me swear or me swear. I mean, obviously, you knew the odd words, and there were never any words that people would use nowadays to swear. But you just didn't do that as a child. But I think, again, like I've just said, it is a sign of the times that, you know, probably the last, I don't know, say, 25 years, it seems to be very, very different. You know, my daughter grew up, I think her era, sort of the late nineties, was the last decade that was normal as in society.
Yeah. You know, they got all the screen time and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And, you know, they're not a bunch of fannies and snowflakes. And, yes, they were being exposed to, you know, different ways of life and, you know, old old Billy or Bobby on a Monday was Billy and Bobby. But the following week, he was bluebell or, you know, something else because he identified as a female. You know, it's we're living in a time that's so difficult for children to navigate. I I I pity parents that have got to bring children up in a manner that is filled with values and morals Because teenagers are the worst, aren't they, really, to keep on the straight and narrow. Could you imagine adding in today's society to that mix?
So good luck
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is what I'm saying. Good luck. Good luck. Well, we need some good morals and some good church stories. I went to watch Perrin lay a wreath on the monument in our town, and I went to the little Oh, okay. Church service, and it was quite naughty because I was at work, actually, and I quite often take a little lady out for coffee. So I was like, come on. We're gonna go for coffee. And, on the way, we'll just pop into this little service so I don't get to miss this. But what was interesting was that in the church, we all had to say the Lord's prayer. Now all of the grown ups were saying it, but the children don't even know it.
That's awful. So you you think I don't know when how often you say, like, the Lord's prayer at churches. Do you say it at weddings? Do you say it at funerals? I don't know. But there's gonna come a time in their life when people aren't gonna say it unless they're reading from a script because they all have no idea. And also another one is the, the national anthem. I don't know why I'm bothered. Yeah. They did sing that as well because it was a remembrance Sunday, like, thing. But I can always remember my parents teaching me that because I was in a pantomime. And at the end of the show, they would always sing the national anthem, but my dad was like, you've got to learn the words because you're the only one up there, like, pretending that you know what you're singing. You know?
So I learned it. But I think I'm gonna have to teach Pir in the Lord's prayer.
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It just goes back to having some morals, doesn't it, of and and values. Without those, what kind of foundation have you got to stand on? You haven't. And therein lies the bloody, you know, state that we're all in. But I actually didn't I didn't see any of it. 1, because I don't really have a TV. And 2, if I did, I would've made a conscious effort not to watch it. I find it now, more so now, more so than ever, I find it so hypocritical, and it just incenses me to the point where I can literally feel my blood boiling. You know, you've got all sort of, you know, the present, and past leaders at the front.
Like like, they have earned, you know, the right or they have the right. They have the honor to be at the front. They don't because they're the blooming toe rags. I nearly swore again. I stopped myself. They're the toe rags that send our men to war. So what gives them the right to be standing at the front, giving it large that, you know, that that they're paying their respects? They're not. They sent our men to war. They allowed our men to be, for one of a better word, to be experimented on with, you know, drugs. And I'm not just including the last 4 years in that. That does come into it. But, you know, awful things like anthrax or or anything else, you know, they were told to take it because it'll keep you safe. It's set there's that saying, safe and effective.
You know, and then when they leave, when they when they've done their service, they're just disregarded. We don't we don't look after them. You know, we walk around going, oh, yeah. You know, we're very pay patriotic, and thanks for our servicemen and all the rest of it. But what exactly do we do for them?
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Them? Well, you think how many of the veterans are out on the streets and stuff? Absolutely. Dealing with PTSD.
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Absolutely. And what does our government do? Every single day of the year, 365 days of the year, they pay 500,001,000, sorry, half £1,000,000 every day to hotels across the country. Now it doesn't matter whether those hotel rooms are empty. That hotel has signed a contract with the government to receive money every day for 365 days of the year, and that amounts to half a £1,000,000 a day. And what what for? For the illegal migrants. Not for our veterans, not assault standstill being held over for. Yeah. It's it's disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.
You know, so if if I'd had the TV, it would be best if I didn't watch it because I wouldn't be able to sit there and watch them with their fake paying of respects. I just wouldn't be able to do that. And and that's sad, isn't it? Because it's such it goes back to what we were just saying, values and morals and perhaps traditions, you know, like your dad saying, no, you are going to learn, you know, the Lord's Prayer. You're going to learn the national anthem. It's a tradition. It's your heritage. Yeah. But governments just continue to screw over those that give their lives or give up part of their lives to keep the country safe because they're they've been told to.
And then they're just chucked out in their ear without any structure. And as you've said, PTSD, they end up homeless, but our government can spend half a1000000 a day just in case that they need to house some more illegal migrants.
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Well, I don't know when it's when it's gonna stop, really. I mean, I did get excited, and there'll be a lot of, like, now, like, the whole Trump being brought back in. Now I'm excited about this because I I like Trump. Absolutely. No doubt he's got his bad points. They all have. But what I see, I I can't help it. I just like it. I just like him. You know? And I was excited. I don't know. I think it was Wednesday morning. Howard texted me at quarter to 8 in the morning, and he said he's in. And I was like, I bet you've been up all night, haven't you, Howard? He said, well, yeah. And then he put a photo up of it with him and his partner both wearing their red supporting hats. But some of the stuff I've seen already, it's like it's got me excited thinking, wow. I mean, you know, he's not even in charge of our country, but some of the memes going around as well.
I think I've seen one of them last night of Camilla Harris serving, Trump fries from McDonald's.
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There's loads of them. Some really good ones. There are some really good ones.
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I do like a meme.
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I like a meme. Yeah. I think the run up to, the election, I was posting some really funny ones. Some very talented people out there that had done some very, very good, comical, comical memes. There was one, just after Trump got in the you know, you always see these shots of sort of leaders within their government office, and they're always sort of on the phone. Well, they did one with Trump and Starmer, and Trump was saying, right. Listen here, you you little communist Starmer. Your country is a mess, and I'm not gonna do this, and I'm gonna do that. And then Starmer said, don't you threaten me. I'm gonna tell my daddy. And then Trump's going, well, your daddy was a and it was just brilliant. But it was in the actual voice of Starmer and Trump. So whoever makes this stuff literally, painstakingly picks out individual words that are applicable to the meme and joins them all together as if these people are actually saying it. Fantastic.
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Brilliant stuff. But that is one of my worries for the future that there'll be someone that will use AI and use my voice and, like, I'll say something. But, obviously, it won't be me. It'd be my AI voice, and, you know, I'll be, like, facing 10 years in prison or something.
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Oh, gosh. Don't don't tempt fate. Don't tempt fate. But the flip side of that is if that was to happen well, there's 2 flip sides if there's such a thing. One, I'd probably be in the cell next to you. And 2 and 2, if that were to happen, if we were to move that far ahead sort of in in terms of technology, we would have the technology to prove that that voice is an a I AI voice of you. Mhmm. It isn't actually yours. So as clever as AI is perceived to be, we could use that to our advantage to prove that wasn't actually you speaking.
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Well, that's a good point, actually. That's a very good point, Jo.
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Yep. Yep. I like to be logical. Do you see any of those, sort of AI people asking questions like, are we in a matrix? Is the world gonna end? Are there such things as aliens? And AI answers them? Have you ever seen that?
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I haven't, and I've heard about it. I use chat GPT quite a bit, and not honestly, there's no going back to ever, like, doing a job application or writing without it. I just wouldn't go without it. Really? Yeah. Really? But Howard was telling me that you can do that. You can ask questions, and I didn't realize that it would speak back to you. I've just used the one that you type with. But,
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I I saw one last week sometime, and a guy asked it about the matrix. How would you go about getting out of the matrix and destroying it? And it was frightening, the answer that this AI gave. Like, the AI was basically saying, yes. You're in a matrix, and this is what you need to do to get out of it. It was like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The other thing the other thing, briefly touching on jiggery pokery supplements, but this isn't really a supplement. Have you seen that short YouTube video where I don't know what the drug is called. It isn't a hardcore drug. It it begins with a d, d for delta. I think it's d e a or d a e or something like that.
But it's it's mind altering, and a guy shines a laser beam on a wall, a plain wall, and he takes this drug. And this drug only lasts, like, 15 minutes, but he can see all the coding on the laser beam. And he started off by saying, oh, I just think it's me. You know? So he invited some friends around, and they all took it. And they all saw the same, but they saw different coding. They saw different writing, which kind of does and I I'm playing that down, but it kind of lends itself to the theory that this is a matrix that we're in.
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Yes. And that is one of my favorite films as well. You know, those feelings of deja vu. And in the movie, every time a cat walks past, it's deja vu and
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amazing film. Yeah. I mean and is there such a thing as deja vu? Or is it that, you know, it's a glitch? Or we've been we've been over this script before, and for some reason, we're we're reading it. Yeah. It is an eerie feeling, isn't it? You think, oh god. I've got such bad deja vu. I used to get it a lot. Yeah. Yeah. I I still get it occasionally, not a lot. And and I guess probably the last 4 years, you know, I'm very angry about the last 4 years. But one of the things I'm angry about is that it almost has eroded part of my humility for humanity.
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Yeah. You're very hard, aren't you? Hard
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faced Jo. You're not very forgiving. I I have I have many hats. Young Young Joe, pilot Joe, hard faced Joe. I do have many hats. But I I think I think, you know, I've had a lot of experiences in life, and I draw from them. And we have we have 2 mutual friends, and you were actually with us when they had taken a phone call from somebody that was very fraught. And, this person was staying with them, and I just replied, uh-oh. That one's gonna be trouble from the start. And they were both adamant. No. No. It's all fine. And then literally a week later, I received a message.
Oh my goodness. Did you call it or what? And I just draw from past experience in in making an assessment of people or things very quickly, which I guess gives the impression that I'm quite
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hard faced. No. I think it's I think it's good that you can see that because I'm I'm totally the opposite. I'm always like, you know, try and see the good in everybody. Give them a second chance. Yeah. I'm a bit too soft, but hey ho.
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Anyway, we Well, it wouldn't do if we were all the same. No. It wouldn't. It wouldn't.
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We've reached the bottom of the hour. So we're gonna play a quick song, and it is remembrance Sunday and the good old Vera Lynn. And then after this, I wanted to talk just a little bit about Tregathan Farm and the Women's Land Army. And I thought this would suit you down to the ground, Jo, because you're into all your farming stuff and what have you. Right. I look forward to it. Okay. We'll be back in a couple of minutes.
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Play. We'll meet again. Don't know where. Don't know when, but I know we'll meet again some sunny day. Keep smiling through just like you always do, till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away. So will you please say hello to the folks that I know? Tell them I won't be long. They'll be happy to know that as you saw me go, I was singing this song. We meet again. Don't know where. Don't know where, but I know we'll meet again some sunny day.
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Wow. I quite enjoyed actually doing a little bit, oh, of research. On the other show we used to do with Maleficus. We delved quite a bit into Cornish history of World War 1 and 2. So because this was women's hour is women's hour, I thought that I'd have a little look at some of the women that played their part in World War 1 and 2. So this is an old article. It's from the Royal Cornwall Museum, actually. So would you know where Tregathin Farm is, Jo? Isn't it a Truro way?
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Yes, darling. It's pronounced Tragedon.
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Tragedon. Right. I've I've got a problem. Nope. Glad you've pulled me up on that one. The amount of shows that I've done, and I pronounce words wrong. Anyway right. So by by January 1915, over a 100,000 British men who had been employed in agriculture had gone to war. Consequently, it was difficult for farmers to complete their seasonal work and produce sufficient quantities of food. One outcome of this was the formation of the women's land army in March 1917. A civilian women's labor force of mobile workers established to recruit, train, and then channel channel healthy young women into farm work.
At that time, Tregethan Farm, now known as no. This is another word. I don't know if I can say it right. Cole Kozlghee Manor. Have you heard of that? No. No. Well, was owned by mister and missus Alfred Martin. Their home became one of 247 women land army training centers, which along with a 140 practice farms, were set up on selected farms around England and Wales. Trainees were sent to Gagaffin following an interview with a local selection committee who questioned them on their health, physical abilities, and reasons for wishing to do land work. If they were prepared to sign up for 12 months, the recruits could choose whether to toil in agriculture, timber cutting, or forage.
Each of these skills were taught at Treguffin under the instruction of the Martin family. Schooling and agriculture consisted of the correct use of farm implements, milking, the care of young livestock, and working with horses. For a few, including those at Treguffin, it also comprised learning to drive the newly introduced motor tractors. The timber cutting, the Martin household would have provided guidance on measuring trees, cutting down, stacking trees, loaded and transporting timber, operating sawmills, and tree nursery cultivation and planting. Forage work tended to be trained on the job. However, the photographs suggest that at least some elements were taught at Tregafin.
For example, the girls are seeing producing bales of hay for horse feeding straw for bedding and cutting chaff into short lengths. The land girls would have been paying 19 shillings a week for their mom's training. This would have been increased to 20 shillings once they passed an efficiency test. Some of the most memorable of Jordan's pictures illustrate the group at the presentation of their certificates, which were given by Lady Ingburg Molesworth, Saint Alban. Celebrations appear to have included games such as leapfrog.
Now I did laugh if you could see the photographs of this and, that now they were what you call party games, Jo.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Games. Yeah. Good old It's old fashioned games. So between March 1917 and May 1919, 23,000 girls became official full time members of the women's land army. This was a small but hugely significant part of the 300,000 women who were working on the land by 1918, a part in which the Martin family and the Jugathan farm played a vital role. That's it really. Just a little bit of history on some of the landmine girls in Cornwall.
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So They're they are really the unsung heroes of the time, aren't they? You know, you've got the men that have gone off to war, horrendously so, but you've also got the women, as you've just illustrated, at home, you know, making machinery or ammunition, doing whatever needs to be done to keep the cogs of the wheel turning, not only sending supplies to the forces abroad, but also feeding the lands or army, you know, sort of farms, feeding the nation that's left behind. You know, they're they're equally as important,
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but I don't see them getting honored on remembrance of that. And that's why I thought I'd bring it up tonight because it is women's hour and remembering, like, famous women in the war as well. And I I did a bit of, and I did think about you for one of these, actually. Jane Kendi, at just 22 years old, she was a navy nurse, and she landed on LWO Jima and made history. She was the 1st US Navy flight nurse to fly an evacuation mission to an active battlefield and the first to land on a Pacific battlefield. Now that would have been your job. Yes.
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That would have been my job, and I could have well been that person in a previous life.
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Well, I'll tell you what. There's so many amazing people in history, isn't there? And, lots of these women, I won't go through all of them now, but, you know, the people, the Gestapo, the French Gestapo, me and you, we would have worked well on that, wouldn't we? Oh,
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we would have been the dream team. We would have just been all over it like a rash. Yeah. We would have thrived in that because that's sort of, like, you know, the things that we get a buzz from. It would be wonderful. Yeah. That was, like, back in back in the day when women were women and men were men. And, you know
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And some people will say, like, oh, women should know their place and, you know, they they shouldn't be involved in things like that. But it's not it's a difficult one because as much as I agree that women should have the opportunity to stay at home and bring up their children and things, it's not for everybody because not everybody finds it easy. And some people want the careers and everything else. So I don't know what point. I'm having a I'm having one of those bank brain fog moments. I'm not sure what the point is. Very well. I will yeah. We'll just blame it on that.
We'll blame it on that. But my point is people like me and you, we would have been wanting to be out there doing something. We wouldn't have been able to just sit at home and bake buns.
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No. We would not. However, is that because we are fortunate enough and are are talking terms of we. We are fortunate enough to have men that are strong in all that that encompasses
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to
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to guide us, to lead us, to lead us, also strong enough in themselves to say, well, no. You're equally as capable of doing it as I am. So why should you just stay at home and be the homekeeper and look after the children? You know? I I I support you in whatever you do. And and I think over time, probably I'm gonna say from the from the early nineties till now, and I see glimmers of hope of the tide turning. But, definitely, from that time period, you know, women didn't have a strong man leading them. And my belief is in order for women to thrive, they do the feminine does need to have a masculine lead. It needs to have a strong lead, but one that isn't crushing, one that one that doesn't, like, I've just illustrated, said, well, you need to stay at home and look after the babies and all the rest of it.
And we lost that. We lost that in the early nineties right up until now. And, occasionally, I do see glimmers of hope that women are saying, well, yes, you know, I do wanna do these things, but I also want to know that I've got a strong man leading me. I've got a strong man protecting me. I've got a strong man championing me saying, yes, girl. You can do it. Go out and do it. You know? You've got it in you. We've lost that, and we need to get back to that as women.
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Yeah. But you see, Darren is very quiet, soft, and gentle, but masculine. Everything about him is masculine. But if he was too masculine, if, example, if I couldn't wear the trousers, we probably wouldn't work.
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No. No. And I agree. But just because a man is strong in different ways doesn't mean to say that they don't wear the trousers. I will guarantee you that whatever the situation was with you and Darren, if he got to the point where he said, no, Shelley,
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I don't want you doing that. And let let's be honest. He will never do that. Oh, he said no to no to the piano being taken down last week, didn't they? Okay. It's the first to be coming. Yeah.
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We're we're go with that. You know? And there was there was no real resistance from you. You know? You you gave back a little bit of, what do you mean no world. Maybe you can do it tomorrow then. But you went with it, you know? And there's that there's that there's that strength. And I think we do. You know, we still need to be independent women. We still need to be able to do our own thing and have our own thoughts. But I don't fully believe that we can do those things unless we have that strength and that security from a man. And it works I get what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah. It it works both ways.
Yeah.
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I I had, like, a a weird vision the other day because, you know, Jackie, church Jackie that's been on a couple of times. Yeah. I really admire Jackie because she's just well, she's got a lovely life, and she's fulfilling her dream of helping people. And she's a vicar's wife, and I made a decision that I wanted to be a vicar's wife. So I said I either I need to find a new man, a vicar, or Darren needs to transform. I could host little tea parties and stuff like that. Go and visit people, visit the sick, the poorly,
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go and read them the bible. You will find that your feet would never touch the ground. You'd be so busy.
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So busy. Mhmm. Mhmm. Well, it was just an idea. It was just an idea.
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But but, you know, I mean, the only the only analogy, the only saying I can make myself crystal clear in in in my belief over that is to put the saying in reverse. You know, there's a saying that behind every great man is a a great woman. You know, behind every great woman is a great man. And I I I know I operate better if I've got a strong opinionated I mean, I may not always take their opinions on board. But if I've got a strong man, a secure man, a safe man standing behind me, then, you know, I I can fly that plane. I can fly that helicopter. I can fly that spaceship. But if I'm left my own now. I yeah.
If I left my own devices, then I will question myself and my own ability. Mhmm.
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Aspect of life. I see both sides. Always. You can always see it from both angles. And that's why quite often I think I just don't say anything because I think, oh, I see it from your point of view. I see it from your point of view. It was fireworks
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last night. Because because you see it from both sides, it's problematic. It's like, oh, god. Yeah. Yeah. I I see that that side of the argument, and I see this side of the argument. Oh, I don't really know which way to think or what to do, and that could be infuriating
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at times. Well, it can because I think I quite often have so many ideas, and I'm like, oh my god. It's just too much. It's too much. But, like, the whole firework problem last night, and I was just I've got no right or wrong answer for it. But, actually, there's bigger problems than I'm not gonna waste my time trying to decide if fireworks should be banned or not. Do you know what I mean? Don't give it the energy. I'm not that bored.
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And I and I think that's a good point. I think that, you know, the last four and a half four and a half, 5 years that we found ourselves in, I can only speak for the women that we know, the women that think like us. You know, it's been quite draining. So maybe we need to, you know, regather our strength and step away from things that aren't that important, Fireworks and, you know, having pointless discussions on social media about stuff. Regain our our independence as women from that rubbish.
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Yeah. And I think I have stepped back quite a bit, but, I mean, you You have. You are a bookworm, and I urge you listeners to follow Jo on Facebook. Jo. Jo Wood. Cool. She's a ranter, I tell you. No. You've you've always got a good topic of conversation and a good viewpoint is always an interesting read. You are the blogger. You are. Yeah. And there was a time and sometimes I get inspired and think, oh, I could have a little rant, and then it passes. And, but as I said last night, if you've got a voice, use it if you can rather than staying behind an anonymous conman.
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Yes. Yeah. I'd I'd I'd don't I don't advocate that idea. I think whether you're right or whether you're wrong, you should have the courage of your convictions, and you should be you should be accepting enough. If somebody tells you that you're wrong, you shouldn't go on the defensive. You should be able to to reason and to try and understand what they've just explained to you from a different point of view, to understand either you're wrong or you can see it from their point of view. You know, that that's really the only way that we all learn is, you know, we, for for some reason, we all hold certain beliefs.
And until somebody challenges you on that, you're never really gonna see outside of your own belief system. You're never really gonna grow. You're never really gonna learn how other people think or what other people think. But I think it goes down to education and more so in this time that we're not taught how to debate. We're not taught how to take into consideration other people's viewpoints and ideas without being upset about them or getting offended by them and and you know? So yeah. I I champion every woman out there. Have the courage of your convictions. Whether you're right or wrong, say it.
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Say it as it is. Yeah. Definitely. And I suppose I ought to just say, really, we've got, what, about 6 minutes left of how, myself and Jo met. Well, in the COVID times, we both found our tribe. And isn't it amazing how Facebook brings people together? At my first protest, at Plymouth, I think it was, Joe was It was. It was, and they see that video when it pops up, and I'm like, oh, there's Joe. But I didn't know her then. Didn't know her then. And it's amazing how things progress, isn't it? Here we are now 4 years on. Yeah. And Yeah. We've become, well, dare I say it, best of buddies, really.
[00:53:50] Unknown:
We we have. We are. We are. Absolutely. Yeah. I remember that day like it was yesterday. You know, I was talking to another random stranger on that rally and, that because there was talk of a a coach going to London, and they said, oh, it's it's Shelley. And I'm like, who's Shelley? And they pointed you out, and you had a camera, didn't you? And I went, lady, lady with the camera. You.
[00:54:21] Unknown:
Are you the bus lady?
[00:54:23] Unknown:
The bus lady is what I said. Yeah. Are you the bus lady? Yeah. And and that's how it went on, really. And none of us knew anybody. It was interesting. The majority were women, again, on that on that rally. And we didn't know anybody, but we were, you know, with our placards, we started out on the ho. We had a little walk into town. And none of us were shy in coming forward. We were all saying what we believed. You know? And we were telling the public what we believed. And that was interesting because at that point in time, nobody had formed any friendships whatsoever.
We were with a group, but we were still very individual in in what we were saying. And that's interesting, isn't it? And I think if you look back over history yeah. Alright. You've got great leaders and great orators that are men, but they're outnumbered by the women that have been great leaders and great orators. They've they've spoken to large swathes of people. They've held people's attentions, and it is the women that get the job done. It is. It is. Yeah.
[00:55:46] Unknown:
Mental because it was majority women everywhere, wasn't it, in COVID times that were standing up and
[00:55:53] Unknown:
Yeah. Organizing. Have to look at it as well. So, you know, picking up on the the land, girls, and sort of, you know, the farming industry and what's happening now. Yeah. Okay. Farmers, men are speaking up, but the majority in, the Facebook page, Farmers Movement Cornwall, is women. And I know that because I'm part of the admin team, and I see the statistics. The majority are women.
[00:56:22] Unknown:
That is interesting. Yeah.
[00:56:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. There is. So, you know, without us, the world is gonna come to a standstill.
[00:56:36] Unknown:
You said it. You said it. And we've got a good rally coming up in a couple of weeks, haven't
[00:56:42] Unknown:
we? We have indeed. That will be in, Truro, 23rd November. For any ladies out there that are driving tractors or 4 by fours, They can meet up at Truro Cattle Market at, 12 PM. And they will be setting off from there, taking a route down to Truro, Victoria Square for 12:30. But anybody that's on foot that wants to support, more the merrier. Come with placards, farming related, food security related, Victoria Square in Truro for 12 PM, and you will be assigned your position.
[00:57:33] Unknown:
And you don't have to be scared by that. Jo will just tell you what stand.
[00:57:37] Unknown:
She'll be very bossy. You over that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, You know, another facet of me will come out from from the closet somewhere, and I'll be wearing a different hat. And then afterwards, I'll just be very sort of, you know, very quiet, very, very demure. But on on those occasions drinking
[00:57:56] Unknown:
vodka out of a Coke bottle like last time.
[00:58:00] Unknown:
That was so funny. Think it's way. Now let let me just say well, say for the listeners, we did a very, very big rally. And, yeah, that was very nerve wracking that day, so I did need something to calm my nerves. No. I don't think I will on this occasion. I don't I don't think I will.
[00:58:19] Unknown:
You're in the swing of it now. You know how these things run.
[00:58:23] Unknown:
I do. I do. So, I'll just take it in my stride.
[00:58:28] Unknown:
Right. Well, I'm looking forward to that anyway. Well, Jo, we have come to the end of the hour. I'd like to thank you for your fun, Jo. I know. I know. It's just like when we chat, chat, chat, chat. It's good. It's all good stuff. Well, thank you for your company, my lovely, and thank you, dear listeners. We will be back the same time next week. Hope you have an awesome week. And, you know, go to the Rumble channel. Look for Shelley Tasker. Do give me a like. Give me a subscribe. My numbers are slowly growing. It's not all about numbers, but, it's nice to know when people listen. If you give it a thumbs up, it it's nice. It's nice. It's nice to show that you appreciate it. And we're not asking for any money, just a like.
Right, miss Jo, the lovely Jo Wood. And listeners, we will be back the same time next week. Have a very awesome week.
Introduction and Greetings
Weekly Catch-Up and Personal Stories
Social Media and Parenting Challenges
Fireworks and Community Rants
Remembrance and Government Critique
Women in War: The Unsung Heroes
Gender Roles and Relationships
Friendship and Activism
