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Women's Hour broadcasts live every Sunday at 7:00p.m. uk time.
Good evening, everyone! Welcome to another lively episode of Women's Hour, hosted by me, Shelley Tasker, and joined by the delightful Jo Wood. We kicked off the show with a warm welcome and a chat about the importance of kindness and compliments, sharing some light-hearted anecdotes about the divine feminine energy and the joy of giving and receiving compliments.
We delved into some amusing personal stories, including a little white lie from Darren about a movie download. We also touched on the excitement of attending concerts and the nostalgia of discovering old music, with a special mention of upcoming events featuring bands like 10cc.
Our conversation took a reflective turn as we discussed the challenges of maintaining routines, from skincare to time management, and the humorous struggles of keeping a one-line-a-day diary. We shared insights into the importance of habits and the little things that bring contentment, like a clean face and a well-organised day.
Books were a hot topic, with Jo and I sharing our current reads and the joy of finding gripping, true stories. We discussed the impact of reading on holiday and the nostalgia of paperback books, alongside the challenges of incorporating reading into our daily routines.
We wrapped up with some home improvement tales, from wallpapering mishaps to DIY projects, and the satisfaction of completing tasks. Our chat was filled with laughter, shared experiences, and the occasional deep dive into personal growth and self-improvement. Thank you for joining us, and we look forward to having you with us next week!
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Good evening to all the beautiful women out there and the occasional gent that's listening to into. You are listening to women's hour, which is going out live on radio soapbox dotcom. I'm also streaming live on rumble. Just look at the name, Shelley Tasker. It's good to have your company. Today's date is Sunday, 20th October, 2024. So you are blessed tonight with Jo's company and myself for the full hour. So without further ado, let's get miss Jo Wood on. And good evening, miss Jo Wood.
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Hello.
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How are you doing?
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I'm hanging in there. It's it's been a long week.
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But, you know
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Tell me Here I am.
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You've shown up. You've shown up. You're in the right place. You've come to have a bit of Shelley time.
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I have. I have. Shelley, everybody I tell you what, everybody needs Shelley time. Because you're always, like, just champion everybody.
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Aw. You know? That's so nice.
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No. But you do. You really do.
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Okay. Thank you. Oh, that's nice to know. Nice to know. Oh, you're welcome. Yeah. And I'm I'm all for giving people compliments and, you know, bigging them up when they need bigging up. Or even if they don't need bigging up, it don't cost anything, does it, to say a few kind words to someone?
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It really doesn't, and it it can make a huge difference to people. You know?
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Yeah. I am that lady. I I walk past you in the street, and I'll say, oh, I love your shoes. Oh, I love your bag. Yes. Yeah. I actually did that the other day. There was,
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a woman in I can't remember where I was. Nowhere excited. I think I was at the range or somewhere looking for a shower hose, and, she had this lovely dress on. And I was like, oh my god. I love your dress. And, you know, I could see that she was, like, slightly embarrassed red because she was like, random stranger. Is she a weirdo?
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It would be weird if men went around saying things like that, though, wouldn't it? Yeah.
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But then it it it then became a little bit weird because, you know, you sort of have that very brief conversation. And then every aisle I walked down, she was there, and I thought, oh, no. She's gonna think I'm stalking her.
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You know?
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No. It I it's what I would call the divine feminine energy. I think us women, we do have well, we're not men, obviously. But like I say, you wouldn't see a man, go up to random strangers. You might see someone occasionally, but I've never seen it. Hey, dude. Like your hat? Yeah. No. No. I don't think I have either, to be honest. No. But And I always remember once when, you remember Charlie, Charlie Rainbow? Yeah. When Charlie was around here a few years ago now, and I'd had a box from work, and it had my uniform in it. And I I was so excited. And she was just there staring for ages and then laughing, and I said, what is wrong with you? And she said, you cannot believe what you're like at the moment, Shelley. You're just still a real girl with the excitement having a present and a little bit of chocolate in a box and stuff.
And it's true. I've never seen Darren open a present that I've given him and be like, wow. Wow. They men are kind of, oh, thanks, babe.
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They are, actually. That's a really good observation. Yeah. They're not they're not excited by it, are they, Lyn? No. They're ungrateful. Yeah. But, yes, most men are.
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Wow. Here's a news flash for you. Darren told me a little white lie this week. Not sweet Darren? Not Darren. Oh, yes. Darren. I told him I'd be talking about this as well. We've had a giggle about it, actually. 1 night this week, I wanted a movie downloaded, and I asked him to do it. And I asked him a few times. He's like, yeah. Yeah. And when I got upstairs, I said, I'm gonna go and watch that movie. Have you downloaded it? And he said, oh, sorry. I can't find it. And I went, oh, that's strange. I said it's not really a new film like that. Anyway, off I popped to bed. Then yesterday, he sent me a a little message saying, I've managed to download that video for you. And, when I went upstairs, I said to him, oh, I said you found it this time. He said, I couldn't. He said, I didn't look last night. He said, I forgot.
I said, see, rather than just say, oops. I haven't had a chance to look, you told a white fib. A white lie. It may be little, but that's where they could start.
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the it is a little white lie, and I agree with what you said, you know, from sways corns grow big oaks. And I'm I'm I'm sitting here thinking, why doesn't he just say, oh, no. I couldn't be bothered. Sorry. I'll do it in a minute instead. Because, really, he had to construct that in his head.
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Well, you're right, and I think that he must find me petrifying. What on earth was I gonna do or say?
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Oh, I, hell have no fury like a woman's school. Is that what you was thinking?
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Well, maybe, but we've never even really fallen out. We've never really had words. You know, I am human. I was just saying, oh, baby. That's a shame. Can you do it now? Yeah. It was really weird. So we've giggled about it. And every time I've walked past him the last couple of days, I'm giving him funny looks, and he says, I'll never do it again.
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Never do it. Yeah. That's just that's very odd behavior for him, isn't it? It is. It is. Very odd.
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Yeah. Perhaps he's, I don't know. I don't we did have a laugh earlier in the week as well because oh, it was last week. Because I think I told you, I went to watch the illegal eagles with my mum. And No? Oh, I did. I went and watched them, and and they were amazing. Yeah. I like that. And I've just got into all old music and everything. But, anyway, I was intrigued with them and the one of the guitarists in particular. And I found their page, and then I looked him up on Facebook, and I was kinda thinking he might be a good guest one night for a show. I added him as a friend, and he accepted.
Anyway, me and Darren were talking about the illegal eagles. I said, oh, by the way, that's so and so. He's a friend of mine now on Facebook. And he said, but how did you find out his name? And I said, oh my word. I think you're a little bit jealous, aren't you? I said, I went to his website, and I just clicked on the first one that came up, really. But, it was funny. We did giggle, you see. When I hunted Darren down all those years ago, I went on his website and hunted him down. So perhaps he's, still jealous and mad.
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Oh, Oh, yeah. He knows what you're capable of. So you're okay. So is this illegal
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Eagle guitarist local or I mean, what's that? I don't think so. No. I can't remember where he's from now, but they were just amazing. And Busy? Yeah. It was packed. I mean, it was full of a lot of older people. But, yeah, it was amazing. And I've never really listened to the Eagles music before, and I found even more new newer music this week and stuff. And I'm like, wow. It's nice to listen to good stuff again.
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Yeah. I love the Eagles. I mean, that's really sort of I'm not it's not my era. It's way before my era, but that's the music as a teenager if I was by myself, that kind of genre. That's music I would listen to. Obviously, you know, all the latest stuff in the eighties nineties, but, you know, that that that kind of genre, the Eagles, 10 cc, Supertramp, Yellow, Free, all of those type of bands, you know, Fleetwood Mac, Rolling Stones, all of that, they're my go to.
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Oh, Fleetwood Mac, I love them as well. I like all of those as well, the ones that I've heard of. And we're actually going to see 10 cc next week at Hall for Cornwall.
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So What? An invitation 10 cc or the 10 cc? It's the 10 cc.
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Oh, really? I'm I'm gonna look on my phone right now.
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They still got tickets?
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I have no idea. Oh gosh. I'm pretty sure it is. I mean, obviously, it won't be all of them now. But, yeah. Oh my giddy. I'm Lordy, lordy, Jo. Lordy, lordy, as you would say.
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I do actually know the security that works for the Of course you do. You know? Everyone.
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I love it when we're trying to plan something. You say, oh, I know someone. Right. 10 cc. 50 years on from the debut album, art pop and soft rock legends 10 cc are coming to the Cornwall Playhouse. Wow. So yes.
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It is them.
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It is them. Book now. I'll see if there's any more tickets. £35 a ticket. And you're right intro as well, aren't you? I am. Buttons just don't wanna work when you want them to, do they? Nothing's happening, so perhaps they haven't got tickets. Oh. Oh. Oh, nope. Sold out. Sold out. Sorry, Jo.
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That's okay. I'll have a little word with a French mind.
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Yeah. Just pretend to work there or something. But,
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I would go down and put a white shirt on and hope nobody asked me to serve them a drink or something.
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Well, there's a will. There's a way, isn't there? Absolutely.
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And, you know, that that is one of my mottos along with go ahead and say no to me. It'll make my day.
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You crack me up with that. It is it's really strong person that does that, though. It really is. Because if somebody said no to me, I would be like, oh, okay. Okay. And it would take me a while to get over it and then be like, right. Come on, Shelley. Back to it. But, anyway, different people.
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You know, different different circumstances, but my under underlying sort of feeling when somebody says no to me is I'm absolutely incensed that they have said no to me. How dare they? Yeah. I mean, I don't I don't show it because I think, you know, age and years of experience have, you know, taught me better. But, yeah, that is my my knee jerk reaction is, who the hell do you think you are? Say no to me.
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Do you know who I am?
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No. It's not that. I'm just like you know, and, actually, this week at work, I was, oh my gosh, I was so so livid because somebody said no to me, and I did give the knee jerk reaction. It was a woman, and she had pulled a fast one. And when I pulled her up on it there and then, she refused to give me another person's name, and she says, I'm not giving that to you. And she actually said it, like, straight away. And I went, excuse me? And she said, no. No. No. I'm not gonna give it to you. Oh, my yeah. Yeah. The little the little the little monster in me certainly came out. And, I I sort of thought about it afterwards, and I was like, well, that's just because she dared to say no.
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Yeah. You gotta be pretty brave saying no to Jo.
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Yeah. Well, you know, I mean, it it was part of my job that I needed to know, and, she thought she knew better and she could say no to me. So, yeah, she she got sent to go and do the high jump, basically.
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Well, never mind. Never mind. Never mind. So I've I've got a question for you, young Jo. Yeah. Young Jo. Young Jo, I can't remember if it was last year or the year before or Christmas or your birthday, whatever, but I bought you a one line a day diary. Yes? Did. You did? Do you write in it?
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I started to.
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No. I'm glad because even I don't seem to manage a line a day. It's just too much.
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I I think at that time, it was, you know, not every day we've all got something going on. And even more so now, I think I think, you know, probably the last 12, 15 months, the ante is up and again, and we're being bombarded left, right, and center, you know, current world affairs and all the rest of it. So when when I got that from you, it was very much an era like that. We were bombarded with with everything. And I remember looking back going, well, that's just enough to make anybody slip their wrists, isn't it, what I've just written? It's like, you know, there there's no there there was no,
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oh, today's a good day or today I Yeah. But that's the point, isn't it, really? You'll look back because it's 5 years' worth as well and be like, oh god. 5 years ago on this day, I was suicidal. Yeah. Well Look at me now.
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Yeah. I'd I'd you know, I've never really got to that point in the last 5 years, but it was, sort of, you know when when I started to write in it, it was an intense time. What about you?
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I did start writing in it religiously, and then I get to the point I think, do you know what? I haven't written in it for, like, 3 weeks. So I'm gonna have a diary session where I'll sit down, and I'll go through my phone and look at photos to see what I was doing that day. And I just fill it in like that. Like, oh, went to talk with my feed. Yeah. But the problem is it's gone on so many months now. It would take forever. So I say to myself, just scrap what you haven't done, Shelley, and just start today. Just start that one line. It's right here or next to me. That one little habit, I can't start.
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Well, yeah, but you can you can write in it, oh, I've been really, really bad and, you know, Slack, and I've not written in it, but I'm now picking the pen up and today's new day and another step forward. There you go.
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Oh, no. I know. I could just write in it. It would take seconds. It's just a silly little habit that I wanted to do, and I get frustrated that I can't write one line. I can't be bothered. I'll look at it. I think I'll do it tomorrow. I'll do it tomorrow. Well, this is the thing about habits. You know? You don't actually realize that you formed a habit
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until it becomes a habit because, you know, it's it's almost like the analogy of Monday to Friday, 9 to 5. You know, we're all on that hamster wheel, and we all go Monday the majority of us go, oh, gosh. Monday morning, we've gotta get up, go to work, you know, feed the dog, feed the kids, get the husband out. You know, all of that is routine, and you don't actually realize that you've incorporated another addition of, oh, you know, little Matilda's now got a hamster I've got to feed or something. And then that becomes your routine, And you end up doing it, and it gets incorporated. So I think, you know, just making a start and trying to put it in with, you know, whatever you do when you get ready in the morning or go to bed.
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I think perhaps I'll leave it by my bed. But you see, even lately, I've stopped putting on my moisturizers, night cream. Itasca. That is not good enough. I know. I've even stopped using my eyelash growth serum. It's because it's, like, dark now. I just can't be bothered. Bothered.
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No. No. No. No. I won't allow that. That's one routine I have never in my life broken. I am very proud to say I have never in my life gone to sleep no matter how drunk I have been with my makeup on. Never ever ever. Never.
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Oh my god. Several times. I don't take my make off makeup off now. No. I would just be lazy and put the creams on top of all my makeup on my face.
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Oh my gosh. Don't. It is that routine, though, isn't it?
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Yeah. And I think I need to start because I've noticed the last month or so that when I put my foundation on, like, under my eyes and it's almost like a bit of saggy skin there. And if I, like, hold it tight, it stays in place, and then I let it go, and it can almost form like a very, like, blister. But it's my skin. It's aging eyes.
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Yeah. Well, that's fluid. That's fluid. Rounds sort of, you know, your under your eye bags. Is it? You have you haven't got eye bags, but it is the fluid. You know? And then you can do sort of well, there's something called,
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I think it's did you get it? Is it just old age? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I've I've found myself all day looking at people I work with and checking their eyes, and I'm thinking, yeah, you look like you've got a bit of fat. Yeah.
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That, you know, old people generally get. But there is, I think it's called a gua sha, something like that. It's, it isn't marble, but it it is it is that type of stone. And it's very flat, and it's shaped, and you sort of just, massage your face
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in in particular. Got one. I've got one. Well, use it. Well, my friend Ali gave it to me for my birthday, and I didn't really know what it was.
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Right. So get off some good, serum and slap that on your face and then use it.
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And then it on. Right. Well, you might have encouraged me tonight. Okay? Because, yeah,
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I can't have that. Can't have that. Oh, no. You've got to do it. You've got to do it. You know? And make sure you know, that that whole set of moisturizer stuff that you've got is really good stuff, but it's not it's not a miracle worker. You've gotta, like, do religiously. Mhmm.
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No. Uh-uh. Alright. Alright. You're right. That's more important than the diary, isn't it, really?
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My vanity. You know, I mean, how how difficult is it? You wake up in the morning, you wash your face, you slap all your stuff on, you're out the door. You come in at the end of the day. Before you go to bed, you wash your face again, you slap it all back on, but with the additional night cream or whatever. And neck cream? Feeling lovely feeling of having a really nice clean face.
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Oh, the little things that you're content with, Jo. You keep breaking up a little bit. Oh, sorry. Yeah. No. That's alright. Right. So that's my face, basically, in a nutshell. Yes. But, see, my routine's building that in. I've even tried setting my alarm earlier because I am late every day. I'm late to everything. And then Piran was supposed to go to a school down the road yesterday. They were doing, like, an hour and a half activities. You drop them off, pick them up, and it's a taster session. Oh. Oh. Wow. I thought it was cool. And, obviously, he got the car, and he was adamant he wasn't going. So it was a real battle. And I said to him I drove we drove down, and I walked with him, and I just said, look. If you get there and there's no one there you know and you still want to come home with me, that's fine. But I get very frustrated with Perrin because he says no. And then quite often, he does something, and then he says he's really enjoyed it. Anyway, after this 20 minutes sat in the car because we had to wait, it didn't start till, like, 4, I got him there, and I couldn't see anybody. And I went into reception, and she said, oh, it's next Wednesday. I'm like, draining.
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Yeah. I mean, that's quite a usual thing in people. I remember growing up as a kid, and my dad used to do that all the time, but it would be when we were going on holiday. So we would turn up to airports, like, literally a day or 2 days before, and then we'd have to come back home again. Oh gosh. Yeah. I mean and that happened numerous times. You know? Like, over 5 times in my lifetime living with them, that happened.
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Wow. It's funny, is it? Because Maddie says that I give her anxiety about time. She's always early for everything because I made her late for everything when she was growing up. I mean, there's I remember being at the school disco when I got a phone call. Can Can you come and pick Maddie up now? And I was like, it doesn't finish for another half an hour, does it? They're like, no. No. It's finished. No. And I've dropped them to school before when it's been baker days.
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I'm just a muddled mess. Oh my gosh. No. I mean, timekeeping isn't my forte, but I kind of view it as it's an expectation on me. People are expecting me to be there if I've agreed a time with them, so it's like that expectation. So I really have to live up to it. I have to make myself do it. Keeping keeping time isn't a natural thing for me, so I really I'm really, like, conscious of it. And you know, don't you? You know, you say to me, oh, yeah, Jo, I'll be at yours for 10 o'clock, and I'm like, okay. Well, you know, don't be late. And it's, like, half past 9, and I'm already phoning you saying, where are you? Away yet.
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Oh my word. Yeah. Put the pressure on. Put the pressure on.
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But Beeping's a funny thing, isn't it?
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It is. Because I've started keeping well, I did for a few days, and it worked really well. I was putting my phone on the other side of the bedroom. So when the alarm went, I wasn't able to snooze it. Oh, that's brutal. Yeah. But it got me out. Now I like to have 2 cup 2 cups of tea with my phone before I move. So if I've got up late, if it's 10 to 8, I've still got to sit down with those 2 cups of tea.
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I can't start anything until I've got my 2 cups of tea in my phone time. Yeah. Lily? Are you, like, freaking out in your head going, oh my gosh. I don't have time to be doing this?
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No. Because I think, oh, you'll only be a few minutes late, Shelley. Oh. I think Kieran's actually started scooting to school a little bit, so he's been on time a couple of times. Oh, wow. But it's gotta change. It will change, Jo. It will change. It has to change. I know. It has to change. You can't keep doing it. It was little things like when I was wearing my false eyelashes. I just couldn't get them right, but I couldn't leave without my lashes.
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You see, but it's that anxiety, isn't it? And I think for me, part of that that timekeeping and I'm I'm and I'm really aware, whoever they are, the expectation on me to turn up on time is immense, and I will do anything to avoid that anxiety. You know? So I think it it's twofold, expectations and anxiety that fuels me to really be on time.
[00:25:46] Unknown:
Yeah. I get it. It's called tepididius or something. That means someone that thinks they've got more time than they've actually got. Oh, really? Yeah. There is a name for it. Wow. Yeah. That's awesome. I've obviously got that. But, you know, I can be on time for things. I can be like doctor's appointments, I'm always there 5 minutes early, 10 minutes early. And then lo and behold, they're always, like, half an hour late, aren't they?
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Doesn't that drive you mad? I sit there going, hang on a minute. My appointment was, like, 20 minutes ago. Why am I still sitting here when I've turned up 5 minutes before the allotted time? You know? It's all like you know, I wanna go,
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come on. Come on. It's my turn. Hey, Jewel. Yeah. Yeah. Right. We've discussed the diary and time, and I wanted to say to you that when I was I think I told you last week that when I was at the toddler group the other week, I ordered a religious Christian powerful book that I wanted to read, one that I read years ago. Yes. Yeah. So I ordered the book, and I was, like, eagerly await awaiting. And it came in the post, obviously. And, when I undid it, it was wrapped in red tissue paper, and my name was written on the tissue paper, and there was a little card in an envelope sellotaped to that package with my name on it. So I opened it up, and on this little card, it said, dear Shelly, I hope you enjoy the book and everything's okay with it. Wishing you much love, Alison.
And also inside, you can't see it, but I got a gold no. It's a silver coin, and it reads like a religious verse on both sides. My god. Did you know this person? No. She was somebody some random on Vinted. No way. No. No. And I just thought, oh my god. That made my day, that did.
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That's so cool and so thoughtful. Yeah. And it kind of restores your faith in humanity that, oh, there really are some good people. We're okay.
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Yeah. There are good people. There really is. And, yeah, and I actually put it on Facebook, and I sent her the link, and I said, thank you so much. You literally made my day. And interestingly, it's the wrong book that I've ordered. Okay? But it's kind of the sequel. It's a story about a New York gang member. The first one, what I actually wanted is called run, baby, run, and it's written from Nikki Cruise's point of view when he was in a gang, and he was saved by David Wilkinson, who was a preacher. So it was that one that I read by by the actual gang leader, and this is the one that was written by the preacher that saved him. So it was kind of a twist of fate, actually, that I got that one. Oh, wow. So are these nonfiction books? No. They're they're truth. I always get fiction and nonfiction back to front back to front. Fiction, true. They're true books. Fiction is made up. That's it. Okay. None. Yeah. If you think about it, it makes sense.
Sorry? Sorry? They're true stories. True stories. Yeah. And it's made me realize that for a long time, I keep thinking, I wanna read something, but I wanna read something that I'm really gonna enjoy and a bit gripping and a bit heartfelt and true. And I was thinking last night, this is my category, all the church sort of religious Christian books. I like things like this because they're quite brutal, and it's a lovely story. And and the guy that wrote this one, David Wilkerson, the one who was the preacher, apparently, he died a few years ago, and, his wife is still alive now. I was thinking about trying to get hold of her to see if perhaps we could have a conversation on the Shelley Tasker show, because anything's possible.
Absolutely. And if I fail, I shall hand the task over to you because I know you won't. But, yeah, just really lovely stories. And I've, like, probably read a third of it. And then Jackie, our bit of Jackie, she messages me because she sees the post I put on Facebook, and she says, Shelley, I would like to read that book again. She said, would you like to come over for lunch on Thursday, and we can do some bible study together? And I was like, how lush is that? She's like one of the loveliest, luscious people I know. Always. Yeah. I mean, I didn't go because I was busy this Thursday, but I'm gonna go next week. But I I sat in bed the other night reading it, and I was there with a pen underlining any bible phrases.
Yes. Yes. So I'm I'm like a true studier of the bible now, don't you know? I I
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you are. And it's interesting because, you know, some people will be absolutely doing cartwheels. You're saying that you've underlined things in a book. You know, there are some diehards that just will not do that, but I love a book that you can underline things in and highlight things because it just makes it easier for you to go back over a certain page or a paragraph and and sort of very quickly skim read it, but you've already
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underlined, highlighted those words so they fold and folded the corners down.
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Just cements it even more. And I think I mean, this sounds crazy, but I think it it it demonstrates that that book is well loved. Do you know what I mean? Definitely. But and I would I would buy a secondhand book that you know, when I was doing my degree, I'd I had many secondhand books that had been underlined and highlighted, and it made it much more interesting because not only was I learning about a particular subject, but I was almost having a glimpse into somebody else's mindset in how they were having a take on whatever. Yeah. Their thoughts. Love it. Was that your psychology degree? Yes.
Yes. Well, I've also bought a book recently as well. Haven't read it yet because I haven't had time, and I think I'm also mentally preparing myself to read it. It's called trance formation of America, and it's by a lady called Kathy O'Brien. And from a young age, she was indoctrinated into, MK Ultra, and she spent decades there. She had a baby there. The baby grew up, you know, into early adulthood, and she wrote a book about how she got out of it. But then she had met a guy called Mark Phillips who helped deprogram her, and I think it took, like, a decade to deprogram her.
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I it's a fascinating story. So what what is the MK thing?
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MK Ultra. It's that mind control cult Oh, right. Okay. Run by the CIA and probably the FBI and other secret services in America that we don't know about. Yeah. That they they just take people to use them as a vessel to do their dirty work, and a lot of people are in government or they're they're in showbiz, you know, to influence, to lead and influence
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how the nutters want the world to run. How did you get onto that then? What have you been looking into?
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Yeah. I can't really remember. It was a couple of weeks ago. I think I was listening to a podcast. Can't remember what one. But they they had her on, and they did a very brief interview with her, and they were talking about all the books that she's written, and I thought, ah, I shall get that. So, yeah, I I'm looking quite forward to reading it. It's kind of the book that you would it's not like reading. I was gonna say it's the type of book you would take away on holiday with you. Most people would take meals and boons love stories, but, you know And I used to love those stories. Yeah. I I would take this and, you know, I would just have a holiday by myself, 7 days, sat around the pool, nice and hot, reading that book.
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Well, hold that thought, Jo, because we're gonna take a very quick music break. I'll speak to you in a second. Okay.
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Is this the real
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life? Is this just fantasy caught in a landslide? No escape from reality. Open your eyes. Look up to the skies. Mama, life had just begun, Too late, my time has come, sent shivers down my spine, body's I see a little silhouette of a man. Scaramouche Scaramouche, will you do the bandango?
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Right. And welcome back to women's hour part 2. I'm here with the awesome Jo Wood. Welcome back again, Jo. Thank you. Thank you. So we were, yeah, we were briefing. You were briefing us about reading a book on holiday, soaking up the sun. I do find going away is that perfect time, isn't it? It's when I've read books. It's, like, almost set in a new habit because you've got nothing else to do but relax.
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Yes. Yeah. I've I've still got this book. I mean, it's really it's a very old book anyway, but it's it's also old because it's been in my possession quite a while. And it's a great holiday book, to just it's called Call Me Elizabeth, and it's a true story. And it's a a single mother. Her husband left her, and I think she had 3, maybe 4 children. And, you know, she had a house to run. She had all the bills. She had a job. And all the children were in private school, and she didn't know how she was gonna, you know, manage to keep all these finances going.
So she became a cool girl. I've read it, Jo. I've read it. Yeah.
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Sorry. You've gone quiet.
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Hello? Can you hear me? I can hear you. You broke up then quickly. I've made it. It it's fantastic, isn't it? It's a great book. Yeah. I love things like that.
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Something with an I mean, I don't know if that was a true story or not, but it was still gripping. Oh, no. It is. Oh, it is? Okay. Well, even better. The biography.
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And I think in the end, she ended up meeting somebody not within the profession that she was, just a normal run of the guy, let's say, at the office type thing. And, yeah, she lived happily ever after.
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Wow. Wow. Yeah. Books. Massive. I love books. So have you bought a hard copy of this book or have you downloaded it?
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Paperback, I've got a who? Yeah. Yeah. I think it adds to it, doesn't it? When it's a paperback, you know, you sort of the the pages become well worn, and they're sort of more more malleable with your hands. And if you was reading off a phone or something, you would just quickly think, oh, this bit's a bit boring. I'll scroll to Facebook. You would. Yeah. Yeah. But then sort of going back to routine, reading is really getting into the the routine of reading, isn't it? You know, if you go back, you know, probably 30 decades 30 decades. Sorry.
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You know? Right? I know what you mean.
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100 years ago. Like, 3 decades ago and and further still, before we had phones, you know, I remember my mom going to bed with a book, you know, and reading. And that generation did that. And I think,
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you know, when technology came along, that got lost. Yeah. I used to, every night, go to bed and read. Well, you used to be an avid reader, didn't you? Massively. I used to set my alarm before I used to go to school to because I'd get so into my books, you know, couldn't wait how to see see what was happening.
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Oh my gosh. Wow. Wow. So you can't get into routine?
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Yes. That's what I'm going to try. I'm going to try. That will be your task for For 2025.
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Used to accept. Yeah.
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Every new year. I mean, I've got a list here on my very special notebook that my daughter gave me for Christmas with all these gorgeous pens that I don't need just in case I might wanna scribble, but 2024, aims and ambitions, read every day, practice guitar every day, practice piano every day, listen to the Bible, a form of exercise, write a diary, meal planner, drink water, and leave the house organized.
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I've got a lot on that list though. You know, you drink good water now with your water. I do. I do. Yeah. What was the other one on there?
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The meal planner. That's that's hit and miss. That's hit and miss. Because I know you was impressed when you saw that on the wall, and you were like, is that this week's?
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You do love a meal planner. And I am trying I am trying desperately to get into the habit, into the routine of meal prepping.
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You know? Well, you need to with your job, don't you? Because you work such long hours.
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Yeah. Yeah. So, that's how I ended up at the range, and see this woman saying about her dress. I had bought now, they are a step up from the takeaway cartons that you get from the Chinese. These are, like, microwave safe and dishwasher safe, because we all know I don't like to wash up, and they've got their individual little compartments and a see through snap on lid. They're not Tupperware, so I started to do that, you know, probably the day before I go back to work, I'll do sort of, you know, for me, what I think is a whole load of cooking. And then I've meal prepped for the week, so that's that's a good thing. Oh, you. That is really good. Well, now I've even got some meat out thawing.
So when I get home, I'll be able to, you know, start my meal prep for when I go back to work.
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Yeah. Yeah. The last thing you when you when you get home, the last thing you wanna do is cook, isn't it? We've actually been naughty tonight and had a pizza delivered. It's we we very rarely do that. Very rarely. Where was that from? Domino's Pizza.
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I'm not a Domino's girl. Never have been. I like Pizza Hut, not Domino's.
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Well, to be fair, we don't eat them very often. But, no, it was a treat. It was a little treat, and it was lush. Lush. Just, go into the door,
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get plates out, you know, just Yeah. Slobberty dobberty. But Yeah. Yeah. I I remember those days. I do remember those days. I used to eat a lot of Domino's pizza in America. Maybe that's why I don't particularly like them now. But it was just so easy, you know, and it was really good that if they didn't turn up on time, you got the pizza for free. So it was like, oh, damn. They're here on time or, you know, sometimes you got lucky and they weren't on time, and then, you know, they refunded you whatever you paid for it. It was great.
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Yeah. Food food on dial. I was only thinking the other day, like, you know, 4 years ago, our little bit of joy that we had was getting up on a Saturday morning because it's takeaway day and choosing your time slot to either go and pick up your delivery or have it delivered to you. That's that's what everyone was doing on a Saturday morning. Yeah. Yeah. Seems quite a while ago, doesn't it really? But in reality, it's not that long. It's not. It's crazy. And I keep getting all these memories popping up at the moment on my Facebook feed of, like, 4 years ago, all the posts I was sharing and stuff like that. And most of them, it says, this has been removed.
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Yeah. There's quite a few of those rounds at the moment. It's like, oh, what did I say on that day? Yeah. Yeah. Think true because they've removed it.
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The good old fact checkers. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. So what else have you been up to this week, my lovely, apart from work? Did you buy anything else? Exciting at the range. Is that all Tupperware?
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Well, I, yeah, I originally went, didn't I, for a shower hose? Because one lit, it just annoys me that I'm just, you know, wasting water because it's coming out of the hose and not the shower head. So I'm like, well, that's not really gonna get me washed and cleaned. So I'm just wasting money down down the, plug hole. I have actually done something like that. Do you know what I've done? Do you know what I've done? I've put up it sounds creepy, but it isn't. I've put up that two way film that you can put up on your windows so people can't look in.
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Oh, yeah. You said that to me in a message yesterday. Yeah. Yeah.
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And it looked really straightforward to do, but I tell you what, it isn't. It really, really isn't. You know. And and you know what I'm like? I'm a stickler for having things right, so I had to measure everything, like, at least 10 times and yeah. And then you actually have to spray the water because it's like self adhesive, so it's not sticky. But you have to clean the the window, the insides, clean the window, and then you spray it with water, and then you peel the back end off of this film, and then you put it on the window, and it's the water that makes it stick. But, yeah, it was really, really fiddly.
But I keep going outside to look from outside in to see if
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I've seen some funny TikTok videos actually of people with that stuff. Yeah. When they put it on the wrong way.
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Yeah. Well, no. I've definitely I've definitely like that. And and it comes in different colors. You know? You can have it in blue. You can have it in brown. You can Excuse me. Yeah. I went with blue for the insides.
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Nice.
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Yeah. So that that took a bit of time, actually. That's what I've been doing. People out there will go, oh my gosh, that's nothing. You know? But for me, who's a bit of a perfectionist, it was it was time consuming.
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It was a mission. I hate it when things like that don't go to plan. You think this will take me 5 minutes. And 1 several years ago, when I was at a knoll in my life, and I say a knoll as in, like, I was at that awkward stage a little bit perhaps where I'm at now with Piran, like, not needing me so much. You know? And I thought I would wallpaper Maddie's bedroom. I don't know if we've had this conversation before. I basically got a patterned wallpaper, and I've never wallpapered before in my life. And so I set up in the bathroom, the table. I couldn't take the bed out because it was a water bed. So I know. So I was trying to glue this bloody wallpaper up, wobbling around on a water bed, and I'd never done it before.
And every time I walked from the bathroom to the bed and on the bed, I was just getting all the wallpaper stuck to me. And, well, if you could have seen it, it was so mismatched. And in the end, I was cutting it in, like, 1 and a half meter strips lengthways and just kept doing that.
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Yeah. Yeah. No. I the last time I wallpapered like you, it was a patterned wallpaper, would have
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been
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1993. And I know that because I know exactly where I was living, and I decided that I would wallpaper who wallpapers the kitchen for god's sake? I don't know. But I wallpapered the kitchen, and then I thought it was such a random pattern that all the bits that weren't matched up didn't initially jump out at you. So I thought I've done such a great job. I'll do the bathroom. Well well, there you go. So the place I was living had one of those old wall heaters
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on the wall. Yep. But you pull a little cord. Yes. Yes? Yep.
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So I thought I'll be really professional. I'll just sort of, you know, unscrew it away from the wall. The screws were still holding it in, but it was enough for me to sort of, you know, get the wallpaper up and under and whatnot. So I did that, and then I screwed back the wall heater. And as I'm doing it, I'm like, oh, god. This is, like, really hard to get in. Don't know why, but, you know, I've actually got it in. Now the people that lived upstairs from me, we shared, I guess, the same water pipe coming into the building. It was a house, and it was converted into 2 flats.
And they had this beautiful Persian cat called Barney, and it was her prized possessions. So Barney, once a month, would get put into the bath, not full water, obviously, and he would have a little bath. And on this occasion, she put Barney in the bath and turned the tap on, and the cat went absolutely ballistic because the water was the pipe was behind the live wire that I had screwed the wall heater back into. Oh my god. The Persian cat What's getting a a mild electric shock in the bath? Oh my god. No. I know. I thought my goodness. I could have killed that cat. Crazy. That was the last time I ever attempted wallpapering.
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Yeah. Yeah. Please don't do it again. Oh,
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no. We've had a week of, like, breakages, actually. Well, not a week. A couple of days. Our cooker's gone. The element's gone. Oh, wow. So we've got a new new element that's come, and I was actually looking at it earlier thinking, shall I have a go? I just fancy the whole you know? But I don't even know how to turn the power off. You can see me there with the everything on live, can't you? Oh. I'll do this element.
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Your hair is sticking up on ends.
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But when when I had a dishwasher years ago and I plumbed it in by myself, I was so chuffed to just watch a YouTube video, and it's like, I don't need a man. I can do this. Yeah. Yeah. There there's lots lots online
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for pretty much everything, isn't there, that you can end up doing? And I've always done it myself. I've always done it myself. But now, I mean, when I moved to the place that I'm in now, a friend helped plumb my dishwasher in. And I could have done it, but I I just couldn't be bothered. And it's just made me now think, I don't really wanna do those things anymore by myself because they actually take a lot of mental energy to do it. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's always better when you've got somebody else to do it for you, really. There's just certain jobs I just won't you know, like, my I've got a flat tire,
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and Darren's like, you need some air in that. And he's like, well, why don't you take it and put some air in for me? Because I might get in a kerfuffle when I'm down there, and I start sweating, and I'm like, I don't know what to press. I I mean, today, I've actually learnt how to log on onto the work's Wi Fi. And, you know, I'm leaving there in a few weeks. It's only taken me 2 years. No. I think I've just got such a busy brain, and sometimes I just can't like I say to you, it's obvious, like, fiction, nonfiction. But my brain sometimes is just like, which one is it? Which one is it? Just to I get that with a lot. I think I've got a bit of ADHD. I'm self diagnosing.
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Don't you? It's like you want everything to be just so, and you just want it now. So you're straight in the head, and then you're like, oh, well, if it doesn't work, I'll just whilst in the midst of everything, I'll just go back, and I'll I'll I'll tweak something, and everything will be okay. And I am like, I love it when I'm on a household mission, you see, and I do, like, 5 minutes in one room, 5 minutes upstairs.
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I potter, and I'm listening to, like, radio 1 downstairs, radio 2 upstairs. I love it.
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Do you find, though, the older you've become, the less focused you are? Because I was very god. Yes. I was very much like that. I would I I had the ability to keep myself in one room and say, oh, I'll tidy this up, and I would make piles of what needed to go where. And then once I'd finished, I'd pick those piles up and then go and take them to whatever room. Now now I'm just in and out of every room, and it seems like I don't achieve anything. I never used to be like that.
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Yeah. Well, you've probably got a little bit more chilled. Does it matter? I'm here now, and, you know, there's cups on the floor and bits and bobs. No. I I just don't care. But then I get days when I'm on it, and I want everything perfect. And if it's sunny sunny, as nice as it is, the sun shines up, all the bloody bad paint jobs, doesn't it? All the dirt on the floor. But, no. I'm just a bit yeah. I suppose my brain is a little bit everywhere. And, I mean, I was writing a shopping list the other day, and, I couldn't think of the word for, I can't remember it now, a plug in where you plug in and it smells. So we just wrote smelly thing on my shopping list. Smelly thing. Yeah.
But my brain is definitely foggy at the moment, and I do think that's probably well, am I at that age? I am at that age. So maybe it's that, or maybe I just need to start taking the mushrooms again. I was definitely a lot sharp sharper taking the lion's mane mushrooms, definitely.
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Yeah. I mean, a lot of people you know? And I can understand why they do, but when you actually stop and think about it, it's like, why would you think that? A lot of people just think it's like, oh, I'll take them for a month, and then I'll I'll see a result and and I'll be okay. You know, because they're a natural supplement, you've gotta take them for at least a minimum a minimum of 3 months before you can, you know, categorically say, oh, yeah. Actually, I do I do feel different. I can see the benefit. But, again, you know, this is obviously the theme of conversation this evening, routine.
You've gotta get in the routine of doing that, you know, so then it just becomes a way of life.
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And on those words, Jo, those wise words, we will end because we have reached the end of the hour. Oh my gosh. Have we really? We have. Chatting about, well, routines.
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Routine.
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Yeah. Yep. That's the thank you for your company, my lovely.
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A pleasure.
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Wonderful. And thank you, dear listeners. We will be back the same time next week. Have an awesome week.
Good evening to all the beautiful women out there and the occasional gent that's listening to into. You are listening to women's hour, which is going out live on radio soapbox dotcom. I'm also streaming live on rumble. Just look at the name, Shelley Tasker. It's good to have your company. Today's date is Sunday, 20th October, 2024. So you are blessed tonight with Jo's company and myself for the full hour. So without further ado, let's get miss Jo Wood on. And good evening, miss Jo Wood.
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Hello.
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How are you doing?
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I'm hanging in there. It's it's been a long week.
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But, you know
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Tell me Here I am.
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You've shown up. You've shown up. You're in the right place. You've come to have a bit of Shelley time.
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I have. I have. Shelley, everybody I tell you what, everybody needs Shelley time. Because you're always, like, just champion everybody.
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Aw. You know? That's so nice.
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No. But you do. You really do.
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Okay. Thank you. Oh, that's nice to know. Nice to know. Oh, you're welcome. Yeah. And I'm I'm all for giving people compliments and, you know, bigging them up when they need bigging up. Or even if they don't need bigging up, it don't cost anything, does it, to say a few kind words to someone?
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It really doesn't, and it it can make a huge difference to people. You know?
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Yeah. I am that lady. I I walk past you in the street, and I'll say, oh, I love your shoes. Oh, I love your bag. Yes. Yeah. I actually did that the other day. There was,
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a woman in I can't remember where I was. Nowhere excited. I think I was at the range or somewhere looking for a shower hose, and, she had this lovely dress on. And I was like, oh my god. I love your dress. And, you know, I could see that she was, like, slightly embarrassed red because she was like, random stranger. Is she a weirdo?
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It would be weird if men went around saying things like that, though, wouldn't it? Yeah.
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But then it it it then became a little bit weird because, you know, you sort of have that very brief conversation. And then every aisle I walked down, she was there, and I thought, oh, no. She's gonna think I'm stalking her.
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You know?
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No. It I it's what I would call the divine feminine energy. I think us women, we do have well, we're not men, obviously. But like I say, you wouldn't see a man, go up to random strangers. You might see someone occasionally, but I've never seen it. Hey, dude. Like your hat? Yeah. No. No. I don't think I have either, to be honest. No. But And I always remember once when, you remember Charlie, Charlie Rainbow? Yeah. When Charlie was around here a few years ago now, and I'd had a box from work, and it had my uniform in it. And I I was so excited. And she was just there staring for ages and then laughing, and I said, what is wrong with you? And she said, you cannot believe what you're like at the moment, Shelley. You're just still a real girl with the excitement having a present and a little bit of chocolate in a box and stuff.
And it's true. I've never seen Darren open a present that I've given him and be like, wow. Wow. They men are kind of, oh, thanks, babe.
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They are, actually. That's a really good observation. Yeah. They're not they're not excited by it, are they, Lyn? No. They're ungrateful. Yeah. But, yes, most men are.
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Wow. Here's a news flash for you. Darren told me a little white lie this week. Not sweet Darren? Not Darren. Oh, yes. Darren. I told him I'd be talking about this as well. We've had a giggle about it, actually. 1 night this week, I wanted a movie downloaded, and I asked him to do it. And I asked him a few times. He's like, yeah. Yeah. And when I got upstairs, I said, I'm gonna go and watch that movie. Have you downloaded it? And he said, oh, sorry. I can't find it. And I went, oh, that's strange. I said it's not really a new film like that. Anyway, off I popped to bed. Then yesterday, he sent me a a little message saying, I've managed to download that video for you. And, when I went upstairs, I said to him, oh, I said you found it this time. He said, I couldn't. He said, I didn't look last night. He said, I forgot.
I said, see, rather than just say, oops. I haven't had a chance to look, you told a white fib. A white lie. It may be little, but that's where they could start.
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the it is a little white lie, and I agree with what you said, you know, from sways corns grow big oaks. And I'm I'm I'm sitting here thinking, why doesn't he just say, oh, no. I couldn't be bothered. Sorry. I'll do it in a minute instead. Because, really, he had to construct that in his head.
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Well, you're right, and I think that he must find me petrifying. What on earth was I gonna do or say?
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Oh, I, hell have no fury like a woman's school. Is that what you was thinking?
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Well, maybe, but we've never even really fallen out. We've never really had words. You know, I am human. I was just saying, oh, baby. That's a shame. Can you do it now? Yeah. It was really weird. So we've giggled about it. And every time I've walked past him the last couple of days, I'm giving him funny looks, and he says, I'll never do it again.
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Never do it. Yeah. That's just that's very odd behavior for him, isn't it? It is. It is. Very odd.
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Yeah. Perhaps he's, I don't know. I don't we did have a laugh earlier in the week as well because oh, it was last week. Because I think I told you, I went to watch the illegal eagles with my mum. And No? Oh, I did. I went and watched them, and and they were amazing. Yeah. I like that. And I've just got into all old music and everything. But, anyway, I was intrigued with them and the one of the guitarists in particular. And I found their page, and then I looked him up on Facebook, and I was kinda thinking he might be a good guest one night for a show. I added him as a friend, and he accepted.
Anyway, me and Darren were talking about the illegal eagles. I said, oh, by the way, that's so and so. He's a friend of mine now on Facebook. And he said, but how did you find out his name? And I said, oh my word. I think you're a little bit jealous, aren't you? I said, I went to his website, and I just clicked on the first one that came up, really. But, it was funny. We did giggle, you see. When I hunted Darren down all those years ago, I went on his website and hunted him down. So perhaps he's, still jealous and mad.
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Oh, Oh, yeah. He knows what you're capable of. So you're okay. So is this illegal
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Eagle guitarist local or I mean, what's that? I don't think so. No. I can't remember where he's from now, but they were just amazing. And Busy? Yeah. It was packed. I mean, it was full of a lot of older people. But, yeah, it was amazing. And I've never really listened to the Eagles music before, and I found even more new newer music this week and stuff. And I'm like, wow. It's nice to listen to good stuff again.
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Yeah. I love the Eagles. I mean, that's really sort of I'm not it's not my era. It's way before my era, but that's the music as a teenager if I was by myself, that kind of genre. That's music I would listen to. Obviously, you know, all the latest stuff in the eighties nineties, but, you know, that that that kind of genre, the Eagles, 10 cc, Supertramp, Yellow, Free, all of those type of bands, you know, Fleetwood Mac, Rolling Stones, all of that, they're my go to.
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Oh, Fleetwood Mac, I love them as well. I like all of those as well, the ones that I've heard of. And we're actually going to see 10 cc next week at Hall for Cornwall.
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So What? An invitation 10 cc or the 10 cc? It's the 10 cc.
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Oh, really? I'm I'm gonna look on my phone right now.
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They still got tickets?
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I have no idea. Oh gosh. I'm pretty sure it is. I mean, obviously, it won't be all of them now. But, yeah. Oh my giddy. I'm Lordy, lordy, Jo. Lordy, lordy, as you would say.
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I do actually know the security that works for the Of course you do. You know? Everyone.
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I love it when we're trying to plan something. You say, oh, I know someone. Right. 10 cc. 50 years on from the debut album, art pop and soft rock legends 10 cc are coming to the Cornwall Playhouse. Wow. So yes.
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It is them.
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It is them. Book now. I'll see if there's any more tickets. £35 a ticket. And you're right intro as well, aren't you? I am. Buttons just don't wanna work when you want them to, do they? Nothing's happening, so perhaps they haven't got tickets. Oh. Oh. Oh, nope. Sold out. Sold out. Sorry, Jo.
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That's okay. I'll have a little word with a French mind.
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Yeah. Just pretend to work there or something. But,
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I would go down and put a white shirt on and hope nobody asked me to serve them a drink or something.
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Well, there's a will. There's a way, isn't there? Absolutely.
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And, you know, that that is one of my mottos along with go ahead and say no to me. It'll make my day.
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You crack me up with that. It is it's really strong person that does that, though. It really is. Because if somebody said no to me, I would be like, oh, okay. Okay. And it would take me a while to get over it and then be like, right. Come on, Shelley. Back to it. But, anyway, different people.
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You know, different different circumstances, but my under underlying sort of feeling when somebody says no to me is I'm absolutely incensed that they have said no to me. How dare they? Yeah. I mean, I don't I don't show it because I think, you know, age and years of experience have, you know, taught me better. But, yeah, that is my my knee jerk reaction is, who the hell do you think you are? Say no to me.
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Do you know who I am?
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No. It's not that. I'm just like you know, and, actually, this week at work, I was, oh my gosh, I was so so livid because somebody said no to me, and I did give the knee jerk reaction. It was a woman, and she had pulled a fast one. And when I pulled her up on it there and then, she refused to give me another person's name, and she says, I'm not giving that to you. And she actually said it, like, straight away. And I went, excuse me? And she said, no. No. No. I'm not gonna give it to you. Oh, my yeah. Yeah. The little the little the little monster in me certainly came out. And, I I sort of thought about it afterwards, and I was like, well, that's just because she dared to say no.
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Yeah. You gotta be pretty brave saying no to Jo.
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Yeah. Well, you know, I mean, it it was part of my job that I needed to know, and, she thought she knew better and she could say no to me. So, yeah, she she got sent to go and do the high jump, basically.
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Well, never mind. Never mind. Never mind. So I've I've got a question for you, young Jo. Yeah. Young Jo. Young Jo, I can't remember if it was last year or the year before or Christmas or your birthday, whatever, but I bought you a one line a day diary. Yes? Did. You did? Do you write in it?
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I started to.
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No. I'm glad because even I don't seem to manage a line a day. It's just too much.
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I I think at that time, it was, you know, not every day we've all got something going on. And even more so now, I think I think, you know, probably the last 12, 15 months, the ante is up and again, and we're being bombarded left, right, and center, you know, current world affairs and all the rest of it. So when when I got that from you, it was very much an era like that. We were bombarded with with everything. And I remember looking back going, well, that's just enough to make anybody slip their wrists, isn't it, what I've just written? It's like, you know, there there's no there there was no,
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oh, today's a good day or today I Yeah. But that's the point, isn't it, really? You'll look back because it's 5 years' worth as well and be like, oh god. 5 years ago on this day, I was suicidal. Yeah. Well Look at me now.
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Yeah. I'd I'd you know, I've never really got to that point in the last 5 years, but it was, sort of, you know when when I started to write in it, it was an intense time. What about you?
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I did start writing in it religiously, and then I get to the point I think, do you know what? I haven't written in it for, like, 3 weeks. So I'm gonna have a diary session where I'll sit down, and I'll go through my phone and look at photos to see what I was doing that day. And I just fill it in like that. Like, oh, went to talk with my feed. Yeah. But the problem is it's gone on so many months now. It would take forever. So I say to myself, just scrap what you haven't done, Shelley, and just start today. Just start that one line. It's right here or next to me. That one little habit, I can't start.
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Well, yeah, but you can you can write in it, oh, I've been really, really bad and, you know, Slack, and I've not written in it, but I'm now picking the pen up and today's new day and another step forward. There you go.
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Oh, no. I know. I could just write in it. It would take seconds. It's just a silly little habit that I wanted to do, and I get frustrated that I can't write one line. I can't be bothered. I'll look at it. I think I'll do it tomorrow. I'll do it tomorrow. Well, this is the thing about habits. You know? You don't actually realize that you formed a habit
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until it becomes a habit because, you know, it's it's almost like the analogy of Monday to Friday, 9 to 5. You know, we're all on that hamster wheel, and we all go Monday the majority of us go, oh, gosh. Monday morning, we've gotta get up, go to work, you know, feed the dog, feed the kids, get the husband out. You know, all of that is routine, and you don't actually realize that you've incorporated another addition of, oh, you know, little Matilda's now got a hamster I've got to feed or something. And then that becomes your routine, And you end up doing it, and it gets incorporated. So I think, you know, just making a start and trying to put it in with, you know, whatever you do when you get ready in the morning or go to bed.
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I think perhaps I'll leave it by my bed. But you see, even lately, I've stopped putting on my moisturizers, night cream. Itasca. That is not good enough. I know. I've even stopped using my eyelash growth serum. It's because it's, like, dark now. I just can't be bothered. Bothered.
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No. No. No. No. I won't allow that. That's one routine I have never in my life broken. I am very proud to say I have never in my life gone to sleep no matter how drunk I have been with my makeup on. Never ever ever. Never.
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Oh my god. Several times. I don't take my make off makeup off now. No. I would just be lazy and put the creams on top of all my makeup on my face.
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Oh my gosh. Don't. It is that routine, though, isn't it?
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Yeah. And I think I need to start because I've noticed the last month or so that when I put my foundation on, like, under my eyes and it's almost like a bit of saggy skin there. And if I, like, hold it tight, it stays in place, and then I let it go, and it can almost form like a very, like, blister. But it's my skin. It's aging eyes.
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Yeah. Well, that's fluid. That's fluid. Rounds sort of, you know, your under your eye bags. Is it? You have you haven't got eye bags, but it is the fluid. You know? And then you can do sort of well, there's something called,
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I think it's did you get it? Is it just old age? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I've I've found myself all day looking at people I work with and checking their eyes, and I'm thinking, yeah, you look like you've got a bit of fat. Yeah.
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That, you know, old people generally get. But there is, I think it's called a gua sha, something like that. It's, it isn't marble, but it it is it is that type of stone. And it's very flat, and it's shaped, and you sort of just, massage your face
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in in particular. Got one. I've got one. Well, use it. Well, my friend Ali gave it to me for my birthday, and I didn't really know what it was.
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Right. So get off some good, serum and slap that on your face and then use it.
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And then it on. Right. Well, you might have encouraged me tonight. Okay? Because, yeah,
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I can't have that. Can't have that. Oh, no. You've got to do it. You've got to do it. You know? And make sure you know, that that whole set of moisturizer stuff that you've got is really good stuff, but it's not it's not a miracle worker. You've gotta, like, do religiously. Mhmm.
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No. Uh-uh. Alright. Alright. You're right. That's more important than the diary, isn't it, really?
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My vanity. You know, I mean, how how difficult is it? You wake up in the morning, you wash your face, you slap all your stuff on, you're out the door. You come in at the end of the day. Before you go to bed, you wash your face again, you slap it all back on, but with the additional night cream or whatever. And neck cream? Feeling lovely feeling of having a really nice clean face.
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Oh, the little things that you're content with, Jo. You keep breaking up a little bit. Oh, sorry. Yeah. No. That's alright. Right. So that's my face, basically, in a nutshell. Yes. But, see, my routine's building that in. I've even tried setting my alarm earlier because I am late every day. I'm late to everything. And then Piran was supposed to go to a school down the road yesterday. They were doing, like, an hour and a half activities. You drop them off, pick them up, and it's a taster session. Oh. Oh. Wow. I thought it was cool. And, obviously, he got the car, and he was adamant he wasn't going. So it was a real battle. And I said to him I drove we drove down, and I walked with him, and I just said, look. If you get there and there's no one there you know and you still want to come home with me, that's fine. But I get very frustrated with Perrin because he says no. And then quite often, he does something, and then he says he's really enjoyed it. Anyway, after this 20 minutes sat in the car because we had to wait, it didn't start till, like, 4, I got him there, and I couldn't see anybody. And I went into reception, and she said, oh, it's next Wednesday. I'm like, draining.
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Yeah. I mean, that's quite a usual thing in people. I remember growing up as a kid, and my dad used to do that all the time, but it would be when we were going on holiday. So we would turn up to airports, like, literally a day or 2 days before, and then we'd have to come back home again. Oh gosh. Yeah. I mean and that happened numerous times. You know? Like, over 5 times in my lifetime living with them, that happened.
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Wow. It's funny, is it? Because Maddie says that I give her anxiety about time. She's always early for everything because I made her late for everything when she was growing up. I mean, there's I remember being at the school disco when I got a phone call. Can Can you come and pick Maddie up now? And I was like, it doesn't finish for another half an hour, does it? They're like, no. No. It's finished. No. And I've dropped them to school before when it's been baker days.
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I'm just a muddled mess. Oh my gosh. No. I mean, timekeeping isn't my forte, but I kind of view it as it's an expectation on me. People are expecting me to be there if I've agreed a time with them, so it's like that expectation. So I really have to live up to it. I have to make myself do it. Keeping keeping time isn't a natural thing for me, so I really I'm really, like, conscious of it. And you know, don't you? You know, you say to me, oh, yeah, Jo, I'll be at yours for 10 o'clock, and I'm like, okay. Well, you know, don't be late. And it's, like, half past 9, and I'm already phoning you saying, where are you? Away yet.
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Oh my word. Yeah. Put the pressure on. Put the pressure on.
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But Beeping's a funny thing, isn't it?
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It is. Because I've started keeping well, I did for a few days, and it worked really well. I was putting my phone on the other side of the bedroom. So when the alarm went, I wasn't able to snooze it. Oh, that's brutal. Yeah. But it got me out. Now I like to have 2 cup 2 cups of tea with my phone before I move. So if I've got up late, if it's 10 to 8, I've still got to sit down with those 2 cups of tea.
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I can't start anything until I've got my 2 cups of tea in my phone time. Yeah. Lily? Are you, like, freaking out in your head going, oh my gosh. I don't have time to be doing this?
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No. Because I think, oh, you'll only be a few minutes late, Shelley. Oh. I think Kieran's actually started scooting to school a little bit, so he's been on time a couple of times. Oh, wow. But it's gotta change. It will change, Jo. It will change. It has to change. I know. It has to change. You can't keep doing it. It was little things like when I was wearing my false eyelashes. I just couldn't get them right, but I couldn't leave without my lashes.
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You see, but it's that anxiety, isn't it? And I think for me, part of that that timekeeping and I'm I'm and I'm really aware, whoever they are, the expectation on me to turn up on time is immense, and I will do anything to avoid that anxiety. You know? So I think it it's twofold, expectations and anxiety that fuels me to really be on time.
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Yeah. I get it. It's called tepididius or something. That means someone that thinks they've got more time than they've actually got. Oh, really? Yeah. There is a name for it. Wow. Yeah. That's awesome. I've obviously got that. But, you know, I can be on time for things. I can be like doctor's appointments, I'm always there 5 minutes early, 10 minutes early. And then lo and behold, they're always, like, half an hour late, aren't they?
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Doesn't that drive you mad? I sit there going, hang on a minute. My appointment was, like, 20 minutes ago. Why am I still sitting here when I've turned up 5 minutes before the allotted time? You know? It's all like you know, I wanna go,
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come on. Come on. It's my turn. Hey, Jewel. Yeah. Yeah. Right. We've discussed the diary and time, and I wanted to say to you that when I was I think I told you last week that when I was at the toddler group the other week, I ordered a religious Christian powerful book that I wanted to read, one that I read years ago. Yes. Yeah. So I ordered the book, and I was, like, eagerly await awaiting. And it came in the post, obviously. And, when I undid it, it was wrapped in red tissue paper, and my name was written on the tissue paper, and there was a little card in an envelope sellotaped to that package with my name on it. So I opened it up, and on this little card, it said, dear Shelly, I hope you enjoy the book and everything's okay with it. Wishing you much love, Alison.
And also inside, you can't see it, but I got a gold no. It's a silver coin, and it reads like a religious verse on both sides. My god. Did you know this person? No. She was somebody some random on Vinted. No way. No. No. And I just thought, oh my god. That made my day, that did.
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That's so cool and so thoughtful. Yeah. And it kind of restores your faith in humanity that, oh, there really are some good people. We're okay.
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Yeah. There are good people. There really is. And, yeah, and I actually put it on Facebook, and I sent her the link, and I said, thank you so much. You literally made my day. And interestingly, it's the wrong book that I've ordered. Okay? But it's kind of the sequel. It's a story about a New York gang member. The first one, what I actually wanted is called run, baby, run, and it's written from Nikki Cruise's point of view when he was in a gang, and he was saved by David Wilkinson, who was a preacher. So it was that one that I read by by the actual gang leader, and this is the one that was written by the preacher that saved him. So it was kind of a twist of fate, actually, that I got that one. Oh, wow. So are these nonfiction books? No. They're they're truth. I always get fiction and nonfiction back to front back to front. Fiction, true. They're true books. Fiction is made up. That's it. Okay. None. Yeah. If you think about it, it makes sense.
Sorry? Sorry? They're true stories. True stories. Yeah. And it's made me realize that for a long time, I keep thinking, I wanna read something, but I wanna read something that I'm really gonna enjoy and a bit gripping and a bit heartfelt and true. And I was thinking last night, this is my category, all the church sort of religious Christian books. I like things like this because they're quite brutal, and it's a lovely story. And and the guy that wrote this one, David Wilkerson, the one who was the preacher, apparently, he died a few years ago, and, his wife is still alive now. I was thinking about trying to get hold of her to see if perhaps we could have a conversation on the Shelley Tasker show, because anything's possible.
Absolutely. And if I fail, I shall hand the task over to you because I know you won't. But, yeah, just really lovely stories. And I've, like, probably read a third of it. And then Jackie, our bit of Jackie, she messages me because she sees the post I put on Facebook, and she says, Shelley, I would like to read that book again. She said, would you like to come over for lunch on Thursday, and we can do some bible study together? And I was like, how lush is that? She's like one of the loveliest, luscious people I know. Always. Yeah. I mean, I didn't go because I was busy this Thursday, but I'm gonna go next week. But I I sat in bed the other night reading it, and I was there with a pen underlining any bible phrases.
Yes. Yes. So I'm I'm like a true studier of the bible now, don't you know? I I
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you are. And it's interesting because, you know, some people will be absolutely doing cartwheels. You're saying that you've underlined things in a book. You know, there are some diehards that just will not do that, but I love a book that you can underline things in and highlight things because it just makes it easier for you to go back over a certain page or a paragraph and and sort of very quickly skim read it, but you've already
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underlined, highlighted those words so they fold and folded the corners down.
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Just cements it even more. And I think I mean, this sounds crazy, but I think it it it demonstrates that that book is well loved. Do you know what I mean? Definitely. But and I would I would buy a secondhand book that you know, when I was doing my degree, I'd I had many secondhand books that had been underlined and highlighted, and it made it much more interesting because not only was I learning about a particular subject, but I was almost having a glimpse into somebody else's mindset in how they were having a take on whatever. Yeah. Their thoughts. Love it. Was that your psychology degree? Yes.
Yes. Well, I've also bought a book recently as well. Haven't read it yet because I haven't had time, and I think I'm also mentally preparing myself to read it. It's called trance formation of America, and it's by a lady called Kathy O'Brien. And from a young age, she was indoctrinated into, MK Ultra, and she spent decades there. She had a baby there. The baby grew up, you know, into early adulthood, and she wrote a book about how she got out of it. But then she had met a guy called Mark Phillips who helped deprogram her, and I think it took, like, a decade to deprogram her.
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I it's a fascinating story. So what what is the MK thing?
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MK Ultra. It's that mind control cult Oh, right. Okay. Run by the CIA and probably the FBI and other secret services in America that we don't know about. Yeah. That they they just take people to use them as a vessel to do their dirty work, and a lot of people are in government or they're they're in showbiz, you know, to influence, to lead and influence
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how the nutters want the world to run. How did you get onto that then? What have you been looking into?
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Yeah. I can't really remember. It was a couple of weeks ago. I think I was listening to a podcast. Can't remember what one. But they they had her on, and they did a very brief interview with her, and they were talking about all the books that she's written, and I thought, ah, I shall get that. So, yeah, I I'm looking quite forward to reading it. It's kind of the book that you would it's not like reading. I was gonna say it's the type of book you would take away on holiday with you. Most people would take meals and boons love stories, but, you know And I used to love those stories. Yeah. I I would take this and, you know, I would just have a holiday by myself, 7 days, sat around the pool, nice and hot, reading that book.
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Well, hold that thought, Jo, because we're gonna take a very quick music break. I'll speak to you in a second. Okay.
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Is this the real
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life? Is this just fantasy caught in a landslide? No escape from reality. Open your eyes. Look up to the skies. Mama, life had just begun, Too late, my time has come, sent shivers down my spine, body's I see a little silhouette of a man. Scaramouche Scaramouche, will you do the bandango?
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Right. And welcome back to women's hour part 2. I'm here with the awesome Jo Wood. Welcome back again, Jo. Thank you. Thank you. So we were, yeah, we were briefing. You were briefing us about reading a book on holiday, soaking up the sun. I do find going away is that perfect time, isn't it? It's when I've read books. It's, like, almost set in a new habit because you've got nothing else to do but relax.
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Yes. Yeah. I've I've still got this book. I mean, it's really it's a very old book anyway, but it's it's also old because it's been in my possession quite a while. And it's a great holiday book, to just it's called Call Me Elizabeth, and it's a true story. And it's a a single mother. Her husband left her, and I think she had 3, maybe 4 children. And, you know, she had a house to run. She had all the bills. She had a job. And all the children were in private school, and she didn't know how she was gonna, you know, manage to keep all these finances going.
So she became a cool girl. I've read it, Jo. I've read it. Yeah.
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Sorry. You've gone quiet.
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Hello? Can you hear me? I can hear you. You broke up then quickly. I've made it. It it's fantastic, isn't it? It's a great book. Yeah. I love things like that.
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Something with an I mean, I don't know if that was a true story or not, but it was still gripping. Oh, no. It is. Oh, it is? Okay. Well, even better. The biography.
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And I think in the end, she ended up meeting somebody not within the profession that she was, just a normal run of the guy, let's say, at the office type thing. And, yeah, she lived happily ever after.
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Wow. Wow. Yeah. Books. Massive. I love books. So have you bought a hard copy of this book or have you downloaded it?
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Paperback, I've got a who? Yeah. Yeah. I think it adds to it, doesn't it? When it's a paperback, you know, you sort of the the pages become well worn, and they're sort of more more malleable with your hands. And if you was reading off a phone or something, you would just quickly think, oh, this bit's a bit boring. I'll scroll to Facebook. You would. Yeah. Yeah. But then sort of going back to routine, reading is really getting into the the routine of reading, isn't it? You know, if you go back, you know, probably 30 decades 30 decades. Sorry.
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You know? Right? I know what you mean.
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100 years ago. Like, 3 decades ago and and further still, before we had phones, you know, I remember my mom going to bed with a book, you know, and reading. And that generation did that. And I think,
[00:43:58] Unknown:
you know, when technology came along, that got lost. Yeah. I used to, every night, go to bed and read. Well, you used to be an avid reader, didn't you? Massively. I used to set my alarm before I used to go to school to because I'd get so into my books, you know, couldn't wait how to see see what was happening.
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Oh my gosh. Wow. Wow. So you can't get into routine?
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Yes. That's what I'm going to try. I'm going to try. That will be your task for For 2025.
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Used to accept. Yeah.
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Every new year. I mean, I've got a list here on my very special notebook that my daughter gave me for Christmas with all these gorgeous pens that I don't need just in case I might wanna scribble, but 2024, aims and ambitions, read every day, practice guitar every day, practice piano every day, listen to the Bible, a form of exercise, write a diary, meal planner, drink water, and leave the house organized.
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I've got a lot on that list though. You know, you drink good water now with your water. I do. I do. Yeah. What was the other one on there?
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The meal planner. That's that's hit and miss. That's hit and miss. Because I know you was impressed when you saw that on the wall, and you were like, is that this week's?
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You do love a meal planner. And I am trying I am trying desperately to get into the habit, into the routine of meal prepping.
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You know? Well, you need to with your job, don't you? Because you work such long hours.
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Yeah. Yeah. So, that's how I ended up at the range, and see this woman saying about her dress. I had bought now, they are a step up from the takeaway cartons that you get from the Chinese. These are, like, microwave safe and dishwasher safe, because we all know I don't like to wash up, and they've got their individual little compartments and a see through snap on lid. They're not Tupperware, so I started to do that, you know, probably the day before I go back to work, I'll do sort of, you know, for me, what I think is a whole load of cooking. And then I've meal prepped for the week, so that's that's a good thing. Oh, you. That is really good. Well, now I've even got some meat out thawing.
So when I get home, I'll be able to, you know, start my meal prep for when I go back to work.
[00:46:42] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. The last thing you when you when you get home, the last thing you wanna do is cook, isn't it? We've actually been naughty tonight and had a pizza delivered. It's we we very rarely do that. Very rarely. Where was that from? Domino's Pizza.
[00:46:59] Unknown:
I'm not a Domino's girl. Never have been. I like Pizza Hut, not Domino's.
[00:47:05] Unknown:
Well, to be fair, we don't eat them very often. But, no, it was a treat. It was a little treat, and it was lush. Lush. Just, go into the door,
[00:47:13] Unknown:
get plates out, you know, just Yeah. Slobberty dobberty. But Yeah. Yeah. I I remember those days. I do remember those days. I used to eat a lot of Domino's pizza in America. Maybe that's why I don't particularly like them now. But it was just so easy, you know, and it was really good that if they didn't turn up on time, you got the pizza for free. So it was like, oh, damn. They're here on time or, you know, sometimes you got lucky and they weren't on time, and then, you know, they refunded you whatever you paid for it. It was great.
[00:47:46] Unknown:
Yeah. Food food on dial. I was only thinking the other day, like, you know, 4 years ago, our little bit of joy that we had was getting up on a Saturday morning because it's takeaway day and choosing your time slot to either go and pick up your delivery or have it delivered to you. That's that's what everyone was doing on a Saturday morning. Yeah. Yeah. Seems quite a while ago, doesn't it really? But in reality, it's not that long. It's not. It's crazy. And I keep getting all these memories popping up at the moment on my Facebook feed of, like, 4 years ago, all the posts I was sharing and stuff like that. And most of them, it says, this has been removed.
[00:48:30] Unknown:
Yeah. There's quite a few of those rounds at the moment. It's like, oh, what did I say on that day? Yeah. Yeah. Think true because they've removed it.
[00:48:40] Unknown:
The good old fact checkers. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. So what else have you been up to this week, my lovely, apart from work? Did you buy anything else? Exciting at the range. Is that all Tupperware?
[00:48:55] Unknown:
Well, I, yeah, I originally went, didn't I, for a shower hose? Because one lit, it just annoys me that I'm just, you know, wasting water because it's coming out of the hose and not the shower head. So I'm like, well, that's not really gonna get me washed and cleaned. So I'm just wasting money down down the, plug hole. I have actually done something like that. Do you know what I've done? Do you know what I've done? I've put up it sounds creepy, but it isn't. I've put up that two way film that you can put up on your windows so people can't look in.
[00:49:35] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. You said that to me in a message yesterday. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:49:39] Unknown:
And it looked really straightforward to do, but I tell you what, it isn't. It really, really isn't. You know. And and you know what I'm like? I'm a stickler for having things right, so I had to measure everything, like, at least 10 times and yeah. And then you actually have to spray the water because it's like self adhesive, so it's not sticky. But you have to clean the the window, the insides, clean the window, and then you spray it with water, and then you peel the back end off of this film, and then you put it on the window, and it's the water that makes it stick. But, yeah, it was really, really fiddly.
But I keep going outside to look from outside in to see if
[00:50:32] Unknown:
I've seen some funny TikTok videos actually of people with that stuff. Yeah. When they put it on the wrong way.
[00:50:38] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, no. I've definitely I've definitely like that. And and it comes in different colors. You know? You can have it in blue. You can have it in brown. You can Excuse me. Yeah. I went with blue for the insides.
[00:50:52] Unknown:
Nice.
[00:50:53] Unknown:
Yeah. So that that took a bit of time, actually. That's what I've been doing. People out there will go, oh my gosh, that's nothing. You know? But for me, who's a bit of a perfectionist, it was it was time consuming.
[00:51:07] Unknown:
It was a mission. I hate it when things like that don't go to plan. You think this will take me 5 minutes. And 1 several years ago, when I was at a knoll in my life, and I say a knoll as in, like, I was at that awkward stage a little bit perhaps where I'm at now with Piran, like, not needing me so much. You know? And I thought I would wallpaper Maddie's bedroom. I don't know if we've had this conversation before. I basically got a patterned wallpaper, and I've never wallpapered before in my life. And so I set up in the bathroom, the table. I couldn't take the bed out because it was a water bed. So I know. So I was trying to glue this bloody wallpaper up, wobbling around on a water bed, and I'd never done it before.
And every time I walked from the bathroom to the bed and on the bed, I was just getting all the wallpaper stuck to me. And, well, if you could have seen it, it was so mismatched. And in the end, I was cutting it in, like, 1 and a half meter strips lengthways and just kept doing that.
[00:52:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. No. I the last time I wallpapered like you, it was a patterned wallpaper, would have
[00:52:21] Unknown:
been
[00:52:24] Unknown:
1993. And I know that because I know exactly where I was living, and I decided that I would wallpaper who wallpapers the kitchen for god's sake? I don't know. But I wallpapered the kitchen, and then I thought it was such a random pattern that all the bits that weren't matched up didn't initially jump out at you. So I thought I've done such a great job. I'll do the bathroom. Well well, there you go. So the place I was living had one of those old wall heaters
[00:53:02] Unknown:
on the wall. Yep. But you pull a little cord. Yes. Yes? Yep.
[00:53:07] Unknown:
So I thought I'll be really professional. I'll just sort of, you know, unscrew it away from the wall. The screws were still holding it in, but it was enough for me to sort of, you know, get the wallpaper up and under and whatnot. So I did that, and then I screwed back the wall heater. And as I'm doing it, I'm like, oh, god. This is, like, really hard to get in. Don't know why, but, you know, I've actually got it in. Now the people that lived upstairs from me, we shared, I guess, the same water pipe coming into the building. It was a house, and it was converted into 2 flats.
And they had this beautiful Persian cat called Barney, and it was her prized possessions. So Barney, once a month, would get put into the bath, not full water, obviously, and he would have a little bath. And on this occasion, she put Barney in the bath and turned the tap on, and the cat went absolutely ballistic because the water was the pipe was behind the live wire that I had screwed the wall heater back into. Oh my god. The Persian cat What's getting a a mild electric shock in the bath? Oh my god. No. I know. I thought my goodness. I could have killed that cat. Crazy. That was the last time I ever attempted wallpapering.
[00:54:47] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Please don't do it again. Oh,
[00:54:51] Unknown:
no. We've had a week of, like, breakages, actually. Well, not a week. A couple of days. Our cooker's gone. The element's gone. Oh, wow. So we've got a new new element that's come, and I was actually looking at it earlier thinking, shall I have a go? I just fancy the whole you know? But I don't even know how to turn the power off. You can see me there with the everything on live, can't you? Oh. I'll do this element.
[00:55:17] Unknown:
Your hair is sticking up on ends.
[00:55:20] Unknown:
But when when I had a dishwasher years ago and I plumbed it in by myself, I was so chuffed to just watch a YouTube video, and it's like, I don't need a man. I can do this. Yeah. Yeah. There there's lots lots online
[00:55:34] Unknown:
for pretty much everything, isn't there, that you can end up doing? And I've always done it myself. I've always done it myself. But now, I mean, when I moved to the place that I'm in now, a friend helped plumb my dishwasher in. And I could have done it, but I I just couldn't be bothered. And it's just made me now think, I don't really wanna do those things anymore by myself because they actually take a lot of mental energy to do it. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's always better when you've got somebody else to do it for you, really. There's just certain jobs I just won't you know, like, my I've got a flat tire,
[00:56:16] Unknown:
and Darren's like, you need some air in that. And he's like, well, why don't you take it and put some air in for me? Because I might get in a kerfuffle when I'm down there, and I start sweating, and I'm like, I don't know what to press. I I mean, today, I've actually learnt how to log on onto the work's Wi Fi. And, you know, I'm leaving there in a few weeks. It's only taken me 2 years. No. I think I've just got such a busy brain, and sometimes I just can't like I say to you, it's obvious, like, fiction, nonfiction. But my brain sometimes is just like, which one is it? Which one is it? Just to I get that with a lot. I think I've got a bit of ADHD. I'm self diagnosing.
[00:56:52] Unknown:
Don't you? It's like you want everything to be just so, and you just want it now. So you're straight in the head, and then you're like, oh, well, if it doesn't work, I'll just whilst in the midst of everything, I'll just go back, and I'll I'll I'll tweak something, and everything will be okay. And I am like, I love it when I'm on a household mission, you see, and I do, like, 5 minutes in one room, 5 minutes upstairs.
[00:57:16] Unknown:
I potter, and I'm listening to, like, radio 1 downstairs, radio 2 upstairs. I love it.
[00:57:22] Unknown:
Do you find, though, the older you've become, the less focused you are? Because I was very god. Yes. I was very much like that. I would I I had the ability to keep myself in one room and say, oh, I'll tidy this up, and I would make piles of what needed to go where. And then once I'd finished, I'd pick those piles up and then go and take them to whatever room. Now now I'm just in and out of every room, and it seems like I don't achieve anything. I never used to be like that.
[00:57:56] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, you've probably got a little bit more chilled. Does it matter? I'm here now, and, you know, there's cups on the floor and bits and bobs. No. I I just don't care. But then I get days when I'm on it, and I want everything perfect. And if it's sunny sunny, as nice as it is, the sun shines up, all the bloody bad paint jobs, doesn't it? All the dirt on the floor. But, no. I'm just a bit yeah. I suppose my brain is a little bit everywhere. And, I mean, I was writing a shopping list the other day, and, I couldn't think of the word for, I can't remember it now, a plug in where you plug in and it smells. So we just wrote smelly thing on my shopping list. Smelly thing. Yeah.
But my brain is definitely foggy at the moment, and I do think that's probably well, am I at that age? I am at that age. So maybe it's that, or maybe I just need to start taking the mushrooms again. I was definitely a lot sharp sharper taking the lion's mane mushrooms, definitely.
[00:59:02] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean, a lot of people you know? And I can understand why they do, but when you actually stop and think about it, it's like, why would you think that? A lot of people just think it's like, oh, I'll take them for a month, and then I'll I'll see a result and and I'll be okay. You know, because they're a natural supplement, you've gotta take them for at least a minimum a minimum of 3 months before you can, you know, categorically say, oh, yeah. Actually, I do I do feel different. I can see the benefit. But, again, you know, this is obviously the theme of conversation this evening, routine.
You've gotta get in the routine of doing that, you know, so then it just becomes a way of life.
[00:59:52] Unknown:
And on those words, Jo, those wise words, we will end because we have reached the end of the hour. Oh my gosh. Have we really? We have. Chatting about, well, routines.
[01:00:03] Unknown:
Routine.
[01:00:04] Unknown:
Yeah. Yep. That's the thank you for your company, my lovely.
[01:00:08] Unknown:
A pleasure.
[01:00:08] Unknown:
Wonderful. And thank you, dear listeners. We will be back the same time next week. Have an awesome week.
Introduction and Greetings
Compliments and Kindness
Funny Anecdotes and Little White Lies
Concerts and Music Preferences
Timekeeping and Habits
Books and Reading Habits
Return from Music Break and More Book Talk
Home Repairs and DIY Mishaps
Routine and Supplements
