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Women's Hour broadcasts live every Sunday at 7:00p.m. uk time. 

Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Today's date is Sunday, 28th July 2024. Welcome to Women's Hour. I am your host, Shelley Tasker. This evening's show is a special tribute to a wonderful woman, Vikki  Fosdal, also known as the Number Witch, who sadly passed away earlier this year. In memory of Vikki, I am replaying an old interview from 2021 where we discussed her passion for numerology.

Vikki Fosdal was an amazing woman whose expertise in numerology touched many lives. In this episode, we delve into her journey into numerology, how she became known as the Number Witch, and the fascinating insights she gained from this ancient practice. Vikki shares her first introduction to numerology in the late eighties and how it resonated with her despite her self-professed lack of mathematical skills.

We explore the similarities between numerology and astrology, and Vikki recounts an experiment where both practices yielded almost identical readings for the same person. She explains the origins of numerology, its ancient roots, and how it works with the vibrational energies of numbers.

Vikki also discusses the practical applications of numerology, such as how it can help people understand their natural attributes, work through karmic issues, and even choose the best dates for significant events like weddings. She shares personal anecdotes, including how she used numerology to understand her own life and relationships.

Throughout the interview, Vikki's passion for numerology shines through, and she provides valuable insights into how this practice can be a powerful tool for self-discovery and healing. This episode is a heartfelt tribute to Vikki Fosdal, celebrating her life and the wisdom she shared with us all.

Thank you for joining me in remembering Vikki Fosdal. I hope you find this interview as enlightening and inspiring as I did. Have an awesome week, and I'll be back next week with more fascinating discussions.

[00:01:14] Unknown:

Good   evening, ladies.   There might be the occasional   gentleman listening.   Today's date is Sunday,   28th July 2024.   Welcome to Women's Hour. I am your host, Shelley Tasker.   I have a bit of a different show this evening.   I would like to play an old show   in memory   of a wonderful woman   who sadly passed away earlier this year.   This woman was Vicky Foster,   aka,   also known as the number witch.   I interviewed Vicky in COVID times,   and I've been to some of her workshops before. She was an amazing woman.   Numerology was her thing.   Anyway,   her birthday would have been in 3 days' time,   and I've been thinking about her a lot. And she shared a lot of valuable information.  

So   this is an old interview from 2021,   and I really hope you enjoy it and get something out from it.   Good evening, Vicky.   Hello. How are you doing?   I'm alright. Thanks. How are you? Good. Good. I haven't I haven't seen you for ages, probably a couple of years   before   at least, yeah, before all of this covid malarkey when we went workshops   and things like that,   we went to weird conventions for numerology and things.   Yeah so I I miss that, you know? Oh, I bet you do. You're not the only one. I'm dying to have a night out and do something a bit different and weird.   Yeah. Wouldn't it be nice? Wouldn't it just be nice? Yeah. So,   yes, all of those listening, Vicky Foster, aka the number witch, She is a numerologist,   and,   hopefully,   we've decided Vicky's gonna wing it tonight. I'm gonna wing it.  

And we're just gonna chat a little bit about numerology   and how you got into it and   just some interesting information, really.   So, Vicky, I I know I vaguely know your story from time before, but can you give us a bit of a briefing of how you got into numerology?   How did you become the number witch?  

[00:03:31] Unknown:

Wow.   I've been doing it for quite a while.   Just cast my mind back.   My first   introduction to numerology   was   in the late eighties   when   someone I knew or someone who knew me quite well,   turned up at my house one day and just handed me   a book, and it was, a workbook on numerology. And I've never heard of it. Didn't know what it was. Didn't know what it was about,   But I sat down and started to read this book and go through it and just   it was fascinating, and I just got hooked.   So I sort of played around with it for a while, and I did my own numbers, and I did my children's numbers, and I looked at my friends' numbers. And   it was really quite,   quite enlightening, but it kinda resonated with me,   which is quite odd because I am hopeless at mass.  

So to for me to be working with numbers   was   pretty strange,   to put it mildly,   but I I just found it fascinating.   It's there's nothing mathematical about numerology really apart from a bit of very basic arithmetic.   It really works on the energy of the numbers. So it's a very energetic way of working,   working with vibrational energies.   So and that kind of made sense to me far more than maths than I did.  

[00:04:58] Unknown:

Right. And I mean, would would I be right in saying, like, numerology is, like, the same kind of thing as astrology? It's that sort of aspect.  

[00:05:06] Unknown:

It is very similar.   And in the early days, I actually we did an experiment. I have a friend who's, an an astrologer,   and,   excuse me, we did   an experiment. We both did a chart for the same person for another friend.   She worked with the astrology aspect, looking at all the planets and the positions of planets, and I worked purely with the energy of the numbers in her name and her date of birth.   And when we'd finished,   they kind of read almost word for word the same.   It was it was   it was quite an eye opener, and that's where I realized that, actually, this is quite a powerful tool   for helping people to   reconnect   with who they are   and looking to see where your natural   attributes are and what things you might find a bit more difficult that you might need to work a bit harder on. So, yeah, that was quite an eye opener.  



[00:06:08] Unknown:

So where does,   numerology   stem from then, Vicky? What period? Well,  

[00:06:15] Unknown:

like a lot of these things, it's quite difficult to take it right back to the very beginning.   We know that the ancient Egyptians worked with numerology   and sacred geometry,   and we know that   the early Hebrew people and the Chaldeans worked with numerology.   But where they got it from,   who knows?   You know?   But it works. It just works, and I love it. And I'm I'm sort of totally hooked on it, and it changes all the time,   and I never get bored with it.  

[00:06:47] Unknown:

So I presume it's a bit like, like Howard that comes on. He does astrology, and he he's often looking at his chart and what how how the planets are all aligned with his date of birth and stuff like that. Does numerology is it based on the same   theory of your date of birth? I mean, obviously, instead of letters, it's numbers, isn't it?  

[00:07:07] Unknown:

Yeah.   Well, the,   the name your your name kinda gives us the character profile. So the name that you're given at birth,   and the energy of the because each letter of the alphabet corresponds to a number for 129,   and each letter each number has its own unique vibrational energy. So   when you convert the name into numbers   and read the energy of those numbers or look at the energy of those numbers,   it kind of brings you a character profile, so you can build up a picture of   what that person is naturally like.   You can also link in through the,   energy that you've inherited   through your   parents' names. You know? Like most people,   it would be your father's name, so you'd kinda link in through your dad's name to the energy that that he's   handed to you when with your name.  

The date of birth   gives you   your   they're the working numbers. They're the numbers that you've been they're the energies that you've been given   to work within this lifetime.   So   with the with the, date of birth numbers, we'd be looking at your   your life path number, what kind of work you might be best suited to,   whether you work better on   a emotional level and intuitional   level,   the mental level, or the physical,   because most of us work best on one of those four levels.   So, the date of birth kinda gives you all of that information.  

[00:08:44] Unknown:

Right.   So, I mean, you what is the genuine when people come to you for a reading, is it a chart?   They come forward, do you just literally use their name and that's all you need?  

[00:08:57] Unknown:

It depends. If I'm if I'm at a mind, body, spirit fair   where time is sort of limited   and you've got maybe 20 minutes to half an hour,   I tend to look at the   name that they are known by, the name that they use every day. So, like, for me, that would be Vicky. For you, it's Shelley.  

[00:09:16] Unknown:

And then I would look at their date of birth So you sorry. Can I interrupt you there, Vicky? So you wouldn't use their surname as well?  

[00:09:23] Unknown:

Not for a quick reading at a mind body spirit there. I'd be looking more at the energy that is around them   at the moment Right.   And, the the energy of their name and how because that tells you how   you portray yourself to other people, how people see you. You know, when you're introduced to somebody, that's the energy that moves backwards and forward. So,   and I would look at the date of birth and maybe look at their personal year number or   look at the energy that might be coming into them over the next few months.   If I'm doing a full chart, it tends to take a couple of days to do a full chart because there's quite a lot of work involved,   and then I would present it to them as a written folder.  

And then you've got that for the rest of your life,   and that gives you your kind of working blueprint, if you like, of,   you know, who you are.  

[00:10:17] Unknown:

Right. That's fascinating, isn't it? Because it so, I mean, it it's it's almost like fortune telling,  

[00:10:23] Unknown:

past experiences all in one really, isn't it? Well, it is a bit like that. I mean, you can link,   numerology with the tarot. It works quite well.   As an example,   the death card in tarot is like the number 13.   And in numerology, the number 13 is very much to do with   transformation   and big changes and really making quite big changes.   So you can link it in that way.  

[00:10:51] Unknown:

Right.   Sorry. Are you fitted in there, Vicky?   Oh, I might have just moved. Yeah. Sorry. That's alright.   It's usually this end. You can usually hear, like, doors slamming them shut,   I'm sorry about that. No that's alright and some people have like a nervous twitch don't they? We've had people before and they're like constantly clicking their fingers   but no that's fine.   So we're,   how how with everything that's been going on,   have you been, like, delving into, like, big people like old Boris Johnson's   birth name and things like that out of interest?  

[00:11:28] Unknown:

No. No. Not really.   I've been kind of looking at the energy of   of the day, each day,   just   basically on the date   of the day,   which I post on my number which page on Facebook most days.   I've been looking at sort of the overall feel for each month   and just really tuning into the energy that is there for us to work   with. I'm not a big fan of politics or,   you know, people like Boris. Bless him.   I  

[00:12:03] Unknown:

You could not bless that man on this show. I'm sorry.   I said you could not bless that man on this show. I'm sorry.  

[00:12:12] Unknown:

Oh, well, I'm just I'm more interested in how us as people   can rise above all of this Yeah. And just really move forward and move through it. So I kind of believe them to do their thing, and I just get on and do mine.  

[00:12:27] Unknown:

How do you feel like the whole general energy is of the planet at the moment?  

[00:12:31] Unknown:

It's a mass awakening is how I see it.   I did a a post at the beginning of the year based on the energy of the year 2021,   which is a number 5.   But there's also the you've got the 20 and the 21 in there with that. And 20 is a number of awakening,   and 21   is a number of   manifestation   and creating.   So from the right from the beginning of the year, there was this kind of feel that   this is a time of awakening. This is where we people wake up. It's kind of whether it's waking up on a personal level and suddenly feeling like   you've been in the wrong you've been doing the wrong thing for a few years, and it's time for a change or whether it's just becoming more aware of what's going on in the world around you. It's a time of awakenings.  

But it also brings that   opportunity   to   to really think about   how you can change things or   how you can do your bit to change things. You know?   I know a lot of people who during all this whole lockdown thing   have actually taken up gardening and are growing organic food and things like that. So there's lots of little changes going on very local levels   that all add up to a big change and a shift in consciousness, and that's how I see it. I just see it as an opportunity to really   shake off all those old energies that don't work anymore and move forward.  

[00:14:05] Unknown:

Well, we are well, we are in the age of Aquarius now, aren't we? We are.  

[00:14:10] Unknown:

Finally.  

[00:14:12] Unknown:

I know. I feel like I've waited my whole life for it. I looked I always loved that song, and actually, I should play it one week as the advert in the middle, but, it seemed like such a long time ago that they were singing. I don't know when that song was released. It was in the sixties, I think, wasn't it? God. I mean, well, I I mean, I was at, I was at high school in the seventies  

[00:14:31] Unknown:

and, late sixties, early seventies, and we did a school trip to London to see the play Hair,   and they sang the song in that in that play.   So that must have been 69, 70.   Right. So it's quite a long time ago. Yeah. So, you know, the the dawning of the age of Aquarius has been kind of with us for a long time.  

[00:14:52] Unknown:

Yeah. Sorry. We didn't say something. So do you believe in, angel numbers, I take it then?  

[00:14:58] Unknown:

What,   yes and no.   For me, it's very much just about the numb the energy of the numbers themselves.   There are a lot of people that work with angel numbers.   The the double numbers, there are 3 earthly master numbers. 1 is 11, 22,   and 33. Those 3 double digit numbers   are considered earthly master energy numbers, so they they work at a slightly higher vibration.  

[00:15:27] Unknown:

So what what to you is 11 and 11?  

[00:15:31] Unknown:

Well, 11 for me is very much,   the number of,   clear vision.   It's that's what it brings. It brings an ability   to see things clearly. It's quite a powerful number. It's   it's a number of,   like, pushing through. It's a number that helps you to push through. It helps you to sort of push through things, get things done,   sort of blow out all the old stuff that isn't working and just get on with it. So it brings clear vision.   It brings, an inner drive   to really do things, to make things better, to to do things better, to to be better.   You know, there's this whole thing about wanting things to be better, wanting to create   something that is better.  

11 for me is is,   that's what it brings on a personal level for for the individual,   but it's also the number of of kind of buildings. So whether it's   building   up a person   or building up a project or   literally laying bricks and building something, it's the number of the builder. So it brings that kind of energy with it.   And and it can link you into angels if you wanted to link you into angels.   It's very much about intuition.  

[00:16:47] Unknown:

Yeah. I mean, you're you're quite into the angel numbers, aren't you, Charlie? There's there's certain things that happened   before so a a big event will happen in my life, and what will happen is they'll die down the angel numbers. So if I look at my my clock   or, phone or registration number or something like that,   the numbers will die down for a bit, and just before something big is gonna happen in my life, they start,   speeding up. I start seeing more of them.  

[00:17:15] Unknown:

Yep. It's, I always think when you see double digits,   it's because   your higher self   is giving you a bit of a nudge that there's something coming, there's something you need to be doing, or there's an opportunity on its way that you   really don't wanna miss. So you start seeing these double digits as,   as a way of kind of reminding yourself if you like that,   you know,   like,   555   for example, would be all about change. It would be   making some kind of major change.   Quite often, it's a change that you want to make. It's a change that you've been wanting to make for a long time,   and suddenly the energy is right for it to happen. And you'll maybe   been sidetracked by something else. So the numbers crop up to kind of remind you that, look. No. Come on. Get back on track. You need to do this.  

Ironically,   I looked at the clock earlier, and it was,   I looked at no. When I looked at earlier, I saw something earlier, and it was 666.   I think it was I was looking at something on Facebook, and they've had 666   views. And I looked at it and thought I just laughed   because there's a lot of there's a lot of negative energy around that number. A lot of people linking devil worshiping all kinds of things. But for me,   it's the number of man. If you had 6 and 6 and 6, it's 18.   If you had 18 together, it's it's number 9,   and 9 is the number of mankind.  

Yeah. Yeah. So for me, it's like it kinda just reminds us that, actually, each individual person   has the ability to be,   for one of a better way of putting it, man or beast.   So I don't I don't see it as being like a devil number,   but it did it did make me giggle. Okay.  

[00:19:09] Unknown:

Well, I know like a friend of ours, he would always like me saying things that happened in a a bit like when prince   oh, not prince well, actually, it was prince who died not long ago? Oh, prince Philip. Prince Philip. That's the one. I think he died on,   like, the was it the 9th day or Yeah. All of that sort stuff?   Do you think that's just coincidental?   The number of completion.  

[00:19:33] Unknown:

It's the number of, endings and completing things. It's coming   full circle.   So it's quite appropriate that was involved with his death, really, if you think about it. I mean, he was quite an elderly gentleman.   Yes. He did live a long life, didn't he? He did. He lived a very long life. You can't complain about that. Oh, 9, as I say, is the number of completions. So it's it's like that was the end of his cycle.  

[00:19:57] Unknown:

Right.   But do you find, like, because you're a numerologist, everywhere you're going, would you be put off your house if you was going to look at a house but actually it was, like, number 21 or something?   Would that, like, be be like, oh, no. That number means this. That's not gonna work.  

[00:20:12] Unknown:

No. See, I there are lots of different ways of working with numerology, and there are there are several different alphabets that you can use, and   lots of different people have different viewpoints.   You you could be like that. You you could kind of work out the numbers of cows and the numbers of your phone, and I have done it with phone numbers. I have to admit, I have looked at if there's you know, if you get a new phone and there's   a a a choice of numbers, I will kind of look at the numbers.   But for houses,   I,   actually, I've never really done that. Ironically,   every house I've ever lived in has reduced to the number 3, which which is all about creative   energy and   sort of family   and   just really enjoying life, you know, really just sort of loving being alive,   and quite a sociable number.  

And,   when my children were growing up, certainly, this house was always full of people,   And there were always people in and out. And everywhere I've lived, it's had that kind of energy,   and I haven't I I didn't really think about it when I moved in.   I just sort of went with, well, if that's the number I've got, that's the number I've got. There's a reason for it.   So you can either take the numbers and think, okay. This has got this has come to teach me something, or you can,   use numerology to change things, and you can change things with numerology.   I have a very good friend who specializes   in name changes,   and he you know, by changing your name, you can   disconnect yourself from difficult karmic issues.  

So, you know, you can use it for things like that.   But I've always been more about, okay. So what am I gonna learn from this one then?  

[00:21:56] Unknown:

Yeah. So how would I if I changed my name now   to something else Yep. That would then   would I would my numerology chart reflect with my new name or my birth name?  

[00:22:10] Unknown:

Well, it would it would reflect your new name, obviously, because you'd look, I mean, when I when I do a full chart,   I tend to start with your birth name because that's your blueprint.   That's the energy that was there when you arrived, the time you were named, that's what was around you, and that's what you were given.   But when we change our name, whether we change it by default because we just wanna change it, whether we change it through marriage or divorce or whatever,   it changes our energy in some way, and it brings it brings something else. It often brings in energy that we were missing in the first place.   Quite often, when you've got couples who've been together forever and they're really they're really close, you'll find that they've each brought   to the relationship energy that the other one was missing.  

So it kind of rounds things out a bit.   And with names, I mean, I   Vicky's my middle name. It's not my first name. It's my middle name, but I've always used it. It's I've always been Vicky.  

[00:23:13] Unknown:

So Can you tell us your first name, Vicky? My first name is Sheila.   Oh, wow. That's interesting.  

[00:23:19] Unknown:

Yeah. I never use it. I only use it You look like a Vicky.   Right. But I've always been called Vicky, you know, from a tiny baby.   So that's the name that I resonate with. That's the name that I you know, it's the energy that I kind of put out to people, I think.  

[00:23:38] Unknown:

Right.   So how how do when people come to you, they have their chart done, and what do you find most people come to? Is it for a feeling to find out more about themselves?   Is it more about futuristic events?  

[00:23:53] Unknown:

God. It's,   all   of those.   Some people come,   because   they're just interested. They come out of curiosity. They want to see, you know, if I work out their name and their numbers, what I'm gonna come up with.   You know?   So they come out of curiosity.   Some people come because   they've kinda got a bit lost. You know? I mean, we've we've all been there. We all do it. You know? You get you get really sort of   you get really involved in   working   or being a mom   or whatever. And,   you know, along the way, sometimes we kinda lose touch with us.   So sometimes people come because they've had a life change, and they want to kind of reconnect with   their self, and they may be thinking about   changing direction or changing career or whatever. So they're looking to see what they might be best suited to because they can't make their minds up. So, I have people come for things like that.  

Sometimes people come to see me because they've   changed their name or they're in the process of changing their name.   And they've maybe   narrowed it down to a couple of names, and they come and ask me if I can have a look and say, you know, which one would work best for them.   And sometimes I get people asking me to do charts for children,   and that's quite nice actually because especially if they're babies   because they're, they're just kind of beginning   their journey on on the planet. So it's quite nice doing children's charts.  

[00:25:30] Unknown:

But with that idea in place,   is that saying then go on a whole deeper level here that your,   your reality is kind of already made up   and it all depends well, actually, I'm I'm just thinking, you know, you don't know what to call your baby,   but it's changed by the numbers in your name. Do you do you see what I'm saying?   To me, like, that baby's born. It's a baby. It's got his whole life ahead of it, and I'm gonna call it Daniel. And then, actually, now I'm gonna change it to Damien,   like, a week later. That's the sort of thing I would do as well.   So that would then My my daughter didn't have a name for 6 weeks. Yeah. I do remember this. I couldn't decide what to call her. So what did you call her for 6 weeks?  



[00:26:14] Unknown:

Well, she was my little honey. I just called her honey. And after about 6 weeks, I realized that that was her name.  

[00:26:21] Unknown:

Oh, so you then you went with Honey.  

[00:26:23] Unknown:

Yeah. Oh, I love it. But but I had all these names, and I couldn't decide which one I liked best or which one to have.   So I just called her honey because she had this lovely honey colored skin   and this beautiful strawberry blonde hair, and and I just thought, she's like honey. She looks like honey.   So and then she became honey.   So but yeah. So,   yeah, you can change your name and change the energies around you. I mean, Usually, if someone asks me to do a chart for a child, they've actually chosen their name and it's there already. Yeah. I suppose it's not very helpful, is it, if they, speak a new to a child for my newborn baby. It's not named yet.   I I'd probably say I can have a look at their numb their date of birth numbers Right. When you've got a name, and we'll do the rest of it.  

I was once asked to do   charts for 2 twins, which was lovely actually because   they were born literally minutes apart on the same date, obviously.   And what it what what I was asked to do, and I really I loved it, so I really enjoyed doing this, was to actually look for their individualities   for how because their names obviously are different, and the times are slightly different. So it was about looking to see   not looking to see how they were the same even though they were identical, but actually looking to see   how   each one would use those energies in a different way or could use those energies in a different way. And that was fascinating.  



[00:27:52] Unknown:

Yeah. I bet. And, of course, I mean, unless   well I suppose it's interesting as well if you've got identical twins,   because they're, well,  

[00:28:01] Unknown:

supposedly made up with the same DNA aren't they? Everything? Yeah Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But each one will use the energies in a slightly different way   simply because   the time the numbers and the time of birth are slightly different,   and their names carry different energy.   So   you can you can still   they can still be completely individual, which I think is lovely.   Yeah.   I've also been asked to look at dates for   special days, like,   somebody was wanted to was getting married and asked me to look at some dates,   that she'd been thinking about for the wedding,   and just give them a a rundown   on what kind of energy that each day would bring to the event.  

And that's quite a nice thing to do.  

[00:28:48] Unknown:

Yeah. I never thought of that actually. I suppose anything you're planning, you can just, well, check out the dates if you know what you're doing or seek a neurologist   like yourself.  

[00:28:58] Unknown:

And I've I've done, one of the things that I've I've been asked to do before, which I now offer on my,   on my page   is   to actually do, like, a a a mini chart for   the bride and groom with their   their names and their dates of birth and the date of the wedding and how it all ties together,   and that's quite a nice thing to do.  

[00:29:22] Unknown:

Yeah. And I'm just thinking now, I suppose I could do it for, like, my pet's date of birth as well. Yeah. Yeah. You can. Yeah. I've I've done all my pets.  

[00:29:33] Unknown:

And my children I mean, when I first started, I basically concentrated on doing,   readings for   my children,   for myself, for my mom, for my sisters,   for for the pets, you know, for my dog, for whoever.   Oh, shush.   For whoever.  

[00:29:52] Unknown:

No. It's great. I mean, I'm I remember doing the course. It was quite a few years ago now in Hale,   and we spent a day working it all out and I've just, wrote a message to myself, I must get that out again and look at it because it's well, it's fascinating really because I remember doing it and think, god this is me. God this is my personality.  

[00:30:09] Unknown:

There's a lot in it. There's you can get a lot of information actually. I mean, nowadays, if I do a when I'm on a mind, body, spirit event, where your time is obviously limited,   I as I said, I work just with the name and the date of birth, but, actually, you can get an awful lot of information from those two things.   And a lot of you can give a lot of guidance with the information that comes from those two things if if that's what people are looking for.  

[00:30:34] Unknown:

And I suppose when you give readings, really, I mean, lots of these events, you're giving your spiritual side as well. And, I mean, you you're quite a spiritual person, Nikhil. I know. I I kinda find, for me,  

[00:30:46] Unknown:

numerology is   I see it really as like a tool for,   self discovery and for healing, actually.   There's a lot of healing energy   in in the energy of the numbers in your name and your date of birth.   You know?   And some people arrive here with,   you know, quite heavy karmic things that they need to work through, and   so numerology can give you an insight as to as to what's going on now or what it is you   why you're stuck in a certain place, why you're struggling with something.   I did   one of the courses that I did, one of the girls that came to a course,   she,   we were looking at the date of birth numbers, and   her birthday contained a 6, and the year that she was born in contained a 6. So she ended up with a a double 6   in the in the grid.  

And,   when you get to those higher double numbers,   for me, that's really about working through karmic stuff.   And we looked at it, and,   so I talked about it because 6 is the number of family and home and relationships.   So it's how we integrate into how we react or or how we   interact with,   people on a more personal level.   And as I started to talk about the energy of 66 and what it brings to the to the picture,   I I asked her. I said, do you have any issues within the family that you're you find yourself working on at the moment, and, you know, would you be happy to share?   And she had spent   something like 6 months   trying to build a better relationship with her dad and her brother,   because she'd always felt that   they didn't really understand her or maybe she didn't really understand them well enough. So she'd been really working on trying to build this   relationship with these 2   men in her life.  

And she was really struggling.   It it just wasn't happening, and she was really struggling with it.   And so we looked at that,   and we had a bit of a she had a light bulb moment, and the whole group kind of benefited from it.   That really, what she had to do was work on   herself and how she   responded to the way they were towards her   because that was the only thing she could actually control.   And by doing that, she was breaking   an ancestral pattern   by just being herself and not trying to fit in   with   their expectations.   She was breaking a pattern,   and it worked.  

So it's quite nice sometimes looking at those deeper numbers to see what they bring.  

[00:33:35] Unknown:

Yeah. I bet you got some fascinating stories actually.   And and your daughter's quite spiritual as well, isn't she?  

[00:33:43] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah, honey. Yep. She,   she understands numerology. She does it sometimes to bits and pieces,   but she's also trained,   in Reiki and the balance procedure.   And the balance procedure actually has links to numerology   because   you kind of work out your personal year number   and things like that as part of the process. So Can you explain what the balance  

[00:34:07] Unknown:

is? Sorry. I've never heard of that before.  

[00:34:10] Unknown:

It's really interesting. You have a I don't know the ins and outs of it thoroughly, but it's you have a a set of cards,   and each card   has a has a meaning and kinda connects with,   I think it connects with the major chakras in some way.   And it's about bringing yourself into balance by   asking your body   where it's out of balance.   So you hold the cards to your heart center,   and you   think of balancing.   And if you move in a certain way, you're balancing. If you   kind of feel off balance, then it's something you need to work on. It's it's very simple technique,   but incredibly   powerful.  

And I wish I could explain it better than that, but I I haven't trained in it. So,   but when you do it, if you actually go through process and you have a session,   it's   quite   it's quite a powerful thing to do.   It brings you into a state of balance, and you do actually feel quite different afterwards.  

[00:35:12] Unknown:

There's so many of these practices out there, and I love it. Like, when we go to these mind, body, and spirit affairs.   Because I think the last time I saw you actually was at Torquay with,   TJ Higgs and crew.   And,  

[00:35:27] Unknown:

was it Torquay or no, Eastbourne, I think was the last one. Yeah. Sorry. Torquay was cancelled because of COVID,  

[00:35:33] Unknown:

but, yeah, Eastbourne. Sorry. Yeah. Alameda, all of the amazing   spiritual things that you can do and all the amazing people, it's just, oh, there's so much, isn't there? I love it. I I'm yeah. I mean, all of it, really.  

[00:35:46] Unknown:

Numerology,   tarot   So am I presenting techniques.   It's all about   out,   personal growth. It's all about self healing and   really connecting with   the universal   energies and,   you know,   the the planet.   It's it's they're all very healing things to do.  

[00:36:10] Unknown:

Yeah. And I mean, I don't know if you attended. You were probably too busy because I was lucky I was there as a guest and I got to participate in all the workshops. I suppose you was probably given readings to everybody but there was, I went   to a couple.   Did you happen to go to Roman Shabov's   the breath technique?   No I didn't.   Oh that that was amazing,   was it? Like and I can't believe how much by just using your breath you can go into such a meditation as such.  

[00:36:40] Unknown:

I did,   a lot of breath work years ago, many years ago, at the beginning of my my spiritual journey,   working with a loving medium who ran a sort of development circle, and   she was very focused on breathing and the importance of breathing and   how   different breathing techniques can   help different aspects of being. So there are certain breathing   breathing techniques that can help you tune in more on the spiritual psychic levels because they're more kind of a a like a meditative feeling to them. And there are other breathing techniques that are really good for,   strengthening your lungs and various organs in the body, and,   I didn't keep up with it, unfortunately. And I often think perhaps I should have.  



[00:37:27] Unknown:

I think there's so many spiritual aspects you could get involved in, isn't there? I think I should do yoga every day, I should meditate, but then I suppose yoga is a form of meditation anyway.  

[00:37:37] Unknown:

It is. Yeah. I, I do qigong. I don't do it every day. You do what? Sorry?  

[00:37:42] Unknown:

I do qigong. What's that?  

[00:37:44] Unknown:

It's a really   gentle form of exercise.   It's the,   it's the healing aspect of Tai Chi.  

[00:37:52] Unknown:

Okay. It sounds like my 30. So it's really kinda slow  

[00:37:56] Unknown:

and gentle,   and it's very much about focusing on your breath and   and balance,   and strength. It strengthens the core. So all of these things, yoga,   Pilates,   tai chi, qigong,   all of those things,   strengthen our core muscles. So if your core is strong,   everything else kinda works better.  

[00:38:23] Unknown:

Sure. Sure.   So when did your spiritual journey begin, Vicky?  

[00:38:32] Unknown:

I've I had a few weird experiences as a child. I used to talk to a white lady that no one else could see.   I always had a thing with animals. I used to   I used to collect   damaged animals and take them home and try and mend them.   Some quite a few survived   against all the odds.   I just seem to have a knack for it.   And   in my teens,   I used to see spirits,   which absolutely terrified me at the time.   But, really, I kinda came back to it   in the eighties.   In the seventies, I was fortunate enough to visit quite a few   very spiritual places like Stonehenge and Glastonbury,   and,   we did lots of stone circles and things like that. So I was quite lucky   to go to magical places.  

But I really came back to it in the eighties,   and it started with the numerology book, and that kind of led me off to do   spiritual healing and reiki   and drumming   and   crystal healing and all kinds of things.   But the numerology   really is   the one that just always   always   resonates, and it's   it it never stops, never ceases to fascinate me or amaze me, and it's   it's just different every time.   It's just different every time. No two readings are the same. The the energy changes,   depending on where the person is at on their journey. It it just fascinates me.  

[00:40:14] Unknown:

It is great stuff, but you do find that people that have got that are into anything like this, they're into all the other spiritual things,   types of healing, and, well,  

[00:40:24] Unknown:

spiritual ways, basically. But it kind of all goes together, really. One one thing kinda leads to another, and you you just find that you you meet people   of like mind. There's this thing, isn't there, with energy where, you know, the energy you put out attracts the same kind of energy back to you. So if you're working on that energetic level,   you're gonna be drawn to people that are also working on that level, and it's and that takes you into all kinds of different areas. It's lovely.  

[00:40:50] Unknown:

Well, I've noticed since all of this that there there has been,   I know it's been a hellish year, a really hellish year for lots of people, but lots of people are waking up and not necessarily necessarily to the lies that were being said and stuff but to their spiritual self.  

[00:41:06] Unknown:

Yes. Yeah.   Yeah. And that's that's one of the really beautiful things that's come out of it, and I think,   there are a couple of things for me that been really quite positive about it. I mean, I I I   my my views are   probably quite similar to yours, but   there are some positive things that have happened. You know? One of the things I did notice,   was my son spends a lot of time in India normally. I mean, he's been stuck in England because of all the lockdowns and things. But normally, he would spend at least half the year in India. So he has a lot of friends there.   And one of the things,   that that we thought was particularly beautiful was that his friends were saying   that for the first time they could ever remember,   the air was clear enough to see the Himalayas.  

Wow.   You know, there was no smog. There was no   no fog that was you could actually see in the mountains,   and, you know,   so things like that. And, you know, rivers have become clearer and all that kind of stuff. So   mother nature has had a really lovely rest throughout this.   You know, there's been   less people out and about polluting things, so it's had a bit of rest. She's had time to kind of recuperate a little bit.   And the other thing is   a lot of people have changed the way they think and and look at things, and it I think it makes you know, when when you have restrictions, it makes people really think about what's actually important, what really matters.   You know? And it's   it's it's those really simple things like hugging the people you love. You know?  

And I'm very lucky because my family,   we decided   that we were going to be our own bubble right from the very beginning. So we've been hugging each other all the way through,   but   a lot of people haven't.   So those are the things that are important. They're the things that matter.  

[00:43:04] Unknown:

Which I believe they've tried to divide, don't they? Conquer and divide. Oh, yeah. Yeah.   And, yeah, the simple things. I mean, Charlie, you lived by yourself, didn't you? But through 1st lockdown, and it was horrendous for you, ain't it?  

[00:43:18] Unknown:

Yeah. It's,  

[00:43:20] Unknown:

being an entrepreneur about been awful. Yeah. It was about 2 and a half, 3 months in total.   Yeah. And you're just staring you're just staring at the same 4 walls, and to not be a hug, and to not be be in contact with people is horrible.  

[00:43:33] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. It's not right, is it?   I was very lucky because my daughter actually lives with me at the moment. So,   she came temporarily, and she's kinda stayed.   And my son ended up getting stuck here because he his flights got canceled.   So there were 3 of us, so it wasn't quite so bad for me. I was quite lucky.   But one of my sisters spent the first 2 or 3 months completely on her own,   and she said it was awful.  

[00:44:00] Unknown:

Did she get really depressed?  

[00:44:03] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. She she didn't and when we went to the 2nd lockdown, she said, you're all in my bubble now because I'm not doing it on my own.   Yes. I'm not doing that again.   So I think, you know, it does make people realize what is actually important.  

[00:44:19] Unknown:

Most definitely.   But that bloody bubble word, it does drive me a bubble, doesn't it? Imagine a couple of years ago saying, who will be in your bubble?  

[00:44:27] Unknown:

I I can't imagine if somebody I mean, I've always been a bit of a rebel, to be honest.   I   if somebody had actually said to me, you know, sort of 3 or 4 years ago,   you know, you'll you will be waiting. I mean, well, I haven't waited, but, you know, somebody said, you won't be allowed to do this, and you won't be allowed to do that, and and you'll have to have a little bubble of a set amount of people and all the rest of it.   I would have laughed at them.   I think we all would have. Yeah. I would have just laughed, and I said, you're having a laugh. I mean, what's that all about? Having a laugh on me. What's that all about?   Yeah.  

I get I get I get it partly, but I,   you know, I think sometimes things can be taken too far.  

[00:45:06] Unknown:

Oh, definitely. Definitely. And and the unfortunate thing is actually, I mean, I had a lot of, not hate. You hold a lot of anger to people that I see that are so scared and actually now,   oh, I truly think for them. I think we've all grown throughout this spiritually.   Yeah. I think we have. We we've all been through our own   our own little cycle of it, haven't we? I mean, I've gone from madness to anger, and I think some of the things I was posting, I lost I lost a lot of friends on Facebook.  

[00:45:33] Unknown:

And I was gonna say, actually, you certainly find out who your friends are when something like this happens.   Yeah. I I, my my circle of friends is a little bit smaller.   Okay.   I've actually quite enjoyed being a hermit to be all semi hermit.   I quite like a quiet life.   I've I've still been going off to the beach for walks and things,   because we're not that far away from you know, it's only, like, a 20 minute drive.   And I've still been going down to the nature reserve. That's been my that's that's been my saving grace. We have a nature reserve just down the road. It's about a 2 minute drive,   and it's lovely.  

And that's that's where I've been kinda spending my time, so   grounding, being in nature.   And with my work, I I could do it online. It's not quite the same as being face to face, but I can do it all online.  

[00:46:26] Unknown:

Yeah. It's it's interesting to see all of the development circles that have continued online. Yeah. I know you can tune in and stuff, but,   credit to them. They've they've carried on. So I think they've been a massive help for people  

[00:46:38] Unknown:

even though I must admit I prefer to work face to face. I like to I like that interaction with people.   But, you know, working online has been okay. It's been fine. It's kept me going. It's kept me ticking over.   And the last   this year will be my 3rd year running. I'm,   I'm a guest reader,   in the fortune telling hut at the Pleasure Beach in Great Yarmouth.  

[00:47:02] Unknown:

Oh, wow.   Oh, I think that's brilliant.  

[00:47:07] Unknown:

It is. It's great. We did it last year.   A friend of mine runs the hut, and I did it last year, and I did it the year before.   And it's great fun. It's great fun. And you're in sea air all day. It's wonderful.  

[00:47:19] Unknown:

Oh, wonderful energy to work in. Yeah. It's great. And it and it is so much I think about environment, is it? I mean I've not been sleeping very well for a long time and,   Charlie said to me the other day why don't you just embrace it, Get up and just, I don't know, go and read a book or what have you and Yeah. I lie there tossing and turning, I listen to birds, I think, oh, I'm gonna walk the dog. I never do. And today, I was out walking the dog at quarter past 5, and,   oh, my god. It was the most beautiful part of the day. And I just when I've lied down to have a little nap because I was up so early, I was just like, take me back to them because it it was just beautiful.  

[00:47:53] Unknown:

Well, I I get up quite early.   I get woken up by cats because I keep them in at night. So, I get woken up by cats   who are desperate to get outside,   And I tend to make myself a nice herbal tea   and then go back up to well, not back to bed, but I go up to my room and just sit and read and drink my tea and listen to the birds outside, and it's just   lovely. No one else is awake. It's really   apart from the birds, it's really quiet. It's just a it's just a nice way to start the day, really.   Yeah. It's thank thank, Jordan. I start my morning meditation.  

[00:48:30] Unknown:

Yeah well I've I've found that most enjoyable today but the problem is it catches up late all in the day. I mean I am lucky. Hello? Can you hear me?   Hello?   Oh I think   you've missed a button. Oh no, we've lost.  

[00:48:46] Unknown:

What's happening  

[00:48:47] Unknown:

here? Can you hear me now, Vicky?  

[00:48:49] Unknown:

Yes.  

[00:48:50] Unknown:

I can. That's alright. We're the stream it, properly. I don't know what Yeah. The stream was interrupted there.   Oh, okay.   So,   yeah, it is about how you start your day and stuff, isn't it? But like I was saying, if you're up early, you tend to need a little nap, and I'm quite fortunate with that because I work for myself. I, you know, do a few little jobs here and there, and I can do that. But,   I also wonder and I hope you don't mind me asking and just say don't go there if it's a no go there subject, but I noticed from your page that you suffer with fibromyalgia.   I do. K. Can you tell us a bit about that? Because this seems to me to be such a big thing.  

I was diagnosed with it,   about a year ago,   and I believe this is why I don't I don't actually achieve  

[00:49:35] Unknown:

loads because I think you get the chronic fatigue with it as well, don't you? Yes. You do. You do. And abs everywhere. Well, I I had no idea that I had it. I I I had a lot of pain, and I've had pain for   years years years, but I have,   I have an old neck injury that plays up from time to time, and I just put it down to that because I'd always been told, you know, as you get older, that will get worse.   So I when I started to get all these weird pains in my body, I just thought, oh, it's just my neck. It's coming from my neck. You know? Just I'm getting old.   But then I was   I was diagnosed   with,   lung disease,   and they were trying to find out   water because they did caused by,   so they were   in front of a rheumatologist   who diagnosed me with fibromyalgia,   and   prescribed medication for it.  

I don't take it very often because I find that although it works and it eases the pain,   it makes my brain even foggier than it is naturally because I call it fibrofog   because sometimes my brain just gets really foggy.   And I do I take naps. I do take naps, and I've learned not to push myself.   Yeah. Yeah. But it is,   it can be incredibly painful.   You know, when it flares up, it is you know, when it if it flares up,   I'm on one of those   difficult days. You know, if the cat stands on me, it's excruciating.   So I have to be sort of careful with it. I have found   that because of all the COVID stuff and the lack of normal appointments and checkups,   I've actually been seeing a homeopath,   online. We've been doing it over   video messenger,   having consultations with her, and she's been treating me homeopathically.  

That does seem to have eased it quite a lot. I don't get the pain levels are nowhere   nowhere how they used to be. They're much   milder.   And I've also found that CBD oil helps.   Right. And that's probably safer. And I just pace myself. You know? If I'm gonna go and do a bit of gardening, I do I did some the other day. I did and I did too I did too much. I was really out there for about an hour, but I I did too much. And the next day, I could hardly move.   So I've I have to pace myself. If I'm gonna do something that is a little bit more strenuous,   I break it down and do, like, 10 or 15 minute slots, and then I have a rest. And then I go back and do a bit more. And I find if I do that, I'm okay, but I do have to really pace myself.  



[00:52:14] Unknown:

Would would you say   that, like, the pain with the fibromyalgia,   it   is similar   to arthritic sort of pain? It's just an age. Yeah. It is.  

[00:52:24] Unknown:

It is like it's different. It's similar, but it's different,   because it doesn't   with me, it's not actually on the joints. It's in really odd parts of my body like my my upper arms. If I press on my upper arms, it's painful. You know, across the top of my chest, under my collarbone,   it really hurts, but my elbows are fine. So it's, you know, it's similar but different.  

[00:52:49] Unknown:

Yeah. I seem to be repeatedly going back in a Korn bag.  

[00:52:53] Unknown:

I personally and it's only my personal take on it. I have no idea   how fibromyalgia   arrives or what where it comes from, but I for me, it kind of came   up after a lot of trauma. I had quite a lot of trauma   over about 3 years,   and I I for me, I I kinda feel like the trauma was partly what triggered   it. It's my body's reaction to trauma.   Yeah. I don't know if that's my personal feeling on it, but,   but as I say, the homeopathics are helping.  

[00:53:27] Unknown:

Good. Good. I mean there's so many variants and actually all the pharmaceutical drugs are just fragments of those plants in the first place, aren't they? So   why don't they go to the whole Hoggan village   original place? Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.  

[00:53:41] Unknown:

And I I tend to be very,   sensitive to pharmaceutical drugs. I   they,   you know, like, the the pregabalin that I was given for the fibro is I I had to go and get them to reduce the dose. The standard dose that they normally give out was just too much.   I I was like a space cadet. I can't function. Imagine.   I can say, this is this is too much, so they kinda they halved the dose.   So I don't need to take very much of anything. I'm quite sensitive to it.  

[00:54:11] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah.   No. It's it's not a good thing, and I I know lots of people that suffer from it, and it's I mean, I just wonder how long it's been about. I mean, obviously, it's probably been about forever. The same as everything, but   diagnosed   Yeah. Technology as our practice. People  

[00:54:29] Unknown:

probably I mean, I'm   I reached retirement age this year, so I'm a little I'm I'm older.   But, like, my generation, my mom's generation,   you know,   you didn't really moan about anything. You just got on with it. You know?   So I as I said, I've had pain for quite a long time, and and I've noticed that I was getting pain in other areas of my body, not just my neck. But I still put it down to the fact that the discs in my neck are a bit dodgy,   and that maybe that's why I was getting pain elsewhere.   And I I didn't even think to go and ask a doctor or have a checkup to find out what it was. I just kind of assumed   it was wear and tear   on on my body.  

But, you know, always always nights spent in tents when I was younger.  

[00:55:16] Unknown:

Oh, you haven't lied to your youth, did you?  

[00:55:20] Unknown:

I spent a lot of time at festivals and, you know, living under canvas and in all kinds of weathers. So I just put it down to that. I just thought, you know what? It's my mis stent use. My body is just complaining now. But, actually, it it is you know, they diagnosed it as fibromyalgia,   and suddenly, it made sense. They didn't give me any information. I came home and read up about it afterwards and thought,   oh, that makes sense. That's what it is. Yeah. Okay.   Yeah.   And and I've had it for about 4 or 5 years before I was diagnosed.  

[00:55:52] Unknown:

Oh, bless you. Well, I'm glad you're managing it.  

[00:55:55] Unknown:

Well, you know, I do get tired. I do get very tired, and I do have those fibro brain days where I just call it fibro brain now, where I I get halfway through a sentence and I forget what I'm saying or but it's usually when I'm   tired and I haven't allowed myself to rest.   So working from home, working for myself, I can actually do that. I can have a nap. I don't have to,   you know, I don't have to log on and work if I'm tired. I can actually go and have a nap first. Oh, the benefits of working of yourself, the naps.   It? I mean, I think everybody should nap every day anyway, really. They're doing snakes, aren't they? Yeah. I I do. I mean, the cats do it all the time so I think we should be allowed to as well.  



[00:56:36] Unknown:

Oh, well, we're gonna have to round up there, Vicky, but it's it's been really lovely to talk to you.   Yeah. You too. And I hope that, we'll see you at the next,   big event.   So you've have you got a website as well or have you just got Facebook page for Kieran? Well, I've got a Facebook page. My website I have got a website.  

[00:56:55] Unknown:

I have got a website, which I'm still kinda working on. But my Facebook page is, if you go to,   facebook.comforward/thenumberwhichalloneword,   it should take you to my page,   where I post my number of the day. And about once a month, I'd I put up my offers.   And a couple of times a year, I I have sort of offers for courses and things.   But all the info, everything that I do is on that page.   And   once we've finished revamping the web page, there will be a link to it on that page.  

[00:57:31] Unknown:

Brilliant stuff. And we can highly recommend Vicky to anybody. It's certainly, once you get into it. I mean, I just did a daily course and then you're reading up on, and so so much makes so much sense. It's fascinating.   So,   yeah do look up our website.   So thanks very much for coming on Vicky and I look forward to catching up with you one day.   Thank you for asking me, I've really enjoyed it. Oh great stuff, thanks Vicky. Take care my darling, bye. Bye. Well I hope to meet you Charlie sometime. Oh brilliant.   See you soon Vicky, bye.  

Time,   so   sending lots of love, hugs, and healing to Vicky's family,   her beautiful daughter.   And what can I say? It was a real pleasure to meet Vicky   and to do this interview.   And I know that many of her friends and family   will get great pleasure   out of listening   to this interview again.   And it's always great to refresh your numerology   skills.   Anyway,   I will be back the same time   next week with a couple of wonderful guests lined up for you   and a life hack. Have an awesome week, guys.