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Women's Hour broadcasts live every Sunday at 7:00p.m. uk time. 

Good evening, listeners! Welcome to another episode of Women's Hour, broadcasting live from RadioSoapbox.com and streaming on Rumble. I'm your host, Shelley Tasker, and today is Sunday, 3rd November 2024. We have a special guest, the wonderful Jo Wood, joining us for the entire hour. We kick off by discussing the controversial topic of vaccine shedding and the personal experiences we've had with it. Jo shares her thoughts on the flu and COVID jabs, and we delve into the importance of making informed choices regarding vaccinations.

Our conversation takes a deep dive into the world of pharmaceuticals and natural remedies. Jo and I share our personal journeys and the research that led us to question mainstream medical practices. We discuss the historical context of pharmaceuticals and the impact of natural health practices, touching on topics like homeopathy and the controversial subject of urine therapy.

We then shift gears to discuss the Cornwall Farmers Movement, a cause close to Jo's heart. She explains the challenges farmers face, particularly with the upcoming changes in inheritance tax laws that threaten their livelihoods. We explore the implications of these changes and the importance of supporting local farmers and businesses. Jo highlights the upcoming rallies in London and Cornwall, urging listeners to support the movement.

Throughout the episode, we also touch on lighter topics, including the joys and challenges of online shopping, the dynamics of personal relationships, and the humorous side of everyday life. Shelley shares anecdotes about her partner Darren and their Springer Spaniel, adding a personal touch to our discussion.

Thank you for tuning in, and remember to support your local farmers and make informed choices in all aspects of life. Stay tuned for more engaging conversations on Women's Hour!

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Good evening to all the beautiful women out there and the occasional gentlemen that's tuning in and listening.   You are listening to women's hour coming live from radiosoapbox.com.   I'm also streaming live via Rumble. Just look up Shelley Tasker channel   if you wanna join in with the live chat.   Today's date is Sunday, 3rd November   2024.   And welcome to all of those listeners wherever you are, down under, up above. It's nice to have your company.   And this evening, we are joined by the awesome Jo Wood for the whole hour. Good evening, miss Wood.  

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Oh, are you are you dropping the title of miss Young Wood usually?  

[00:01:39] Unknown:

Miss young miss Young Jo Wood.   Let's state for the records I'm not. Hello. How are you? I'm groovy. I'm groovy. Better than this time last week because, obviously, last week, we had to cancel because   I was, well, not well, basically.  

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No. You were not. You were not.  

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I put it around being,   well, I put it down to being around lots of people that recently   had their COVID jabs and their flu jabs and Yeah. Yeah. They shedded, and I got it.  

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Yeah. And I really you know, it's not a case of I really do believe it. It is   a scientific   fact now that there is,   you know, a degree of shedding.   And I experienced something similar   a couple of weeks ago. You know, a couple of people at work,   they came in. They were very proud,   very, very proud of themselves because   they took the flu shot and the COVID shot at the same time.   I mean, you can imagine you can imagine my face. And I was I was sitting on one of those chairs, office chairs, you know, that sort of got wheels on the bottom, and I literally launched myself   across the other room like I was on a dodgem car on this chair.  



[00:02:57] Unknown:

It is funny, isn't it? I was in Holland and Barrett last week, and a lady in front, she was chatting away. And then I realized she's from the chemist, and, I was stood quite close to her. And then she said, oh, I've been given out the flu and COVID jabbs all day, and I just stepped back.   Yeah. Yeah. It's yeah. How lovely. And I don't know if you knew this, but they are almost there with the new jab that you can they reckon it's safe   that they will combine the COVID and flu jab in 1.  

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Safe and effective. Right? Yeah. Go for it.   Taffer, just   for the love of god, I don't I just don't understand it. I've never understood it.   You know, that's that's another topic, another rant for another day, but crazy people out there. Crazy.  

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Yeah. And there's a time, I suppose, lots of us would have been called crazy,   but more and more people that I've spoken to over the couple of last couple of years are like, oh, I'm not having anymore. I'm not having anymore. I've had 3, and it's true. If you've had 3, 4, 5, and they haven't worked, it's not gonna work, is it?  

[00:04:02] Unknown:

Exactly.   And,   you know,   I don't I don't   I don't honestly believe anybody's   crazy   when they   fully have the courage of their convictions,   and they believe so strongly in something.   You know, it's it's not like we sort of woke up one day, and we just had this mindset of, do you know what? We're being lied to.   It it came with a lot of research and a lot of   talking to peers and other people   to really fathom out what was going on before   we sort of came out, and we were out loud and proud as it were.  

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I am a proud anti vaxxer.  

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Oh, that's a great word, isn't it?  

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I don't care anymore because I think I always say to people, just make an informed   choice. Just research. That's all. And at the end of the day, if you choose it's for you, do it.   But, for the research that I did, no.   I had my eldest who done because I didn't know any different. You just pop them along, don't you? Oh, there's 6 weeks jab, blah blah blah blah.   And then with Piran,   I was a lot more awake with stuff that was going on, and, you know, my ex was really he's gonna be jabbed, and I'm like, there's no way he's gonna be jabbed. And we went and saw a talk with doctor Jane Donegan, and after that, he was like, we're not getting him jabbed. Wow. Yeah. Wow.  

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I had a similar experience   in terms of seeing somebody,   and it was actually a homeopath   that had,   really took me through the whole history   of jabs   and,   you know,   viruses,   for one of a better word, were in decline,   through good sanitation,   better   nourishment.   And that was kind of combined with when they had released whatever the latest vaccine was. So it always looked as if it was the vaccine that was actually Yeah. You know.   And it was really reassuring   to know that somebody   from a position of health, like you going to see your   lady,   knew what they were talking about and gave you the ability to be confident in   not only your child's immune   immune system, but your own.  



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But I think how they play on it these days, isn't it? It's, you're doing it for the more vulnerable out there. But which is rubbish because lots of really vulnerable people that have got children with, leukemia and stuff like that, if you would just had your jabs, they wouldn't want you around their child.   Yeah. Because, you know, if you shed and they get poorly, blah, blah, blah, blah.   But, interestingly, this year, I think, is the 1st year that   the immunizations   for, chickenpox,  

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everything has gone right down, and that's all because of those COVID jabs. Yeah? Yeah. Yeah. Almost shot themselves in the foot, haven't they? You know? They've they've inadvertently  

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made people research, and they've gone, oh my giddy aunt. Not for me. Yeah. Yeah. And there's no denying it now. There's no denying it. You can't say there's a problem. I mean, the amount of groups out there,   the amount of yellow card   complaints and stuff, records   Yeah. You know, people who have died, we see all of this. Oh, so and so young died suddenly.   So and so. Oh, got cancer, age 23.  

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Yeah. Turbo cancer. Turbo cancer. Yeah. Not just cancer, turbo, which is alarming, isn't it, that you can go from, like, 0   to a100   in the space of a couple of weeks?   And then, you know, tomorrow, you're dead.   But, yeah, again, people just don't don't see it, like you said, with all the died suddenly.   I mean, come on.   How many   I mean, we had a really big spate, didn't we, during   football season,   probably   12, 15 months after the initial rollout.   I mean, literally, every football game, there were people on the pitch dropping dead.  

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Yeah. I've never seen anything like it. I know people say this has always happened. Well, yeah, occasionally.  

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Yeah.   Like, 1 in 1 in probably,   you know,   750,000,   a million. It was such a rarity.   But this this was,   like, you know, probably into treble figures in 1 football season.   Alarming. Very alarming.  

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Yes. Not for me. Bless them. But, I mean, I know so many people that didn't want it,   but they were young. They wanted to keep their jobs, and, you know, there there's a difference in people, aren't they? I mean, because I I still think now you have that choice.   You have that choice, and I would have gone and lived in the woods rather than let anybody.   Yeah. I don't care if I lose my job. But then we're all different, aren't we? Yeah. Yeah. I was gonna say, you know, is that more of,  

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a generational   thing? You know, being older than   younger people, obviously,   you know, we're   I think we're the fortunate ones. We're the ones   that were raised   in a time and in an environment   that   enabled us to think for ourselves. It you know, it   we were more we were more independent   as in well, if you wanna know the answer to something, you'll have to find it out. Whereas now, the younger generation   is, oh, no. Well, it said it on Facebook. It said it on Google.   You know, my my friend's   mom   is a doctor   in,   cardboard boxes, and she said it's safe. So that's what I'm gonna do.   Yeah. Do you know what I mean? I mean, that's a really wild analogy.  

But   we   our generation was a generation where   you had to find things out for yourself.  

[00:10:19] Unknown:

Well, you did, and you always trusted the doctor.   And I see it more and more now, you know, with my ongoing little issue of reflux   and GERD and all of this problem   trying to heal it. The doctors, they're allopathic. They just they treat the symptoms.   Yeah. They don't do anything. I mean, hence the bloody world is on Omeprazole.   And,   you know, opting in for an operation, that that scares me, and I'm trying to sort it out myself naturally. I've seen   a homeopath and stuff,   but it's like   all these little things we've been taught. You know? They were all before medicine came out, we trusted natural   witchy sort of ways and things like that, didn't we? The homeopaths and things.  

And now it's,   everybody that's not a doctor, they're a quack   Yeah. If they've studied in something different.  

[00:11:13] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, it was interesting. I was speaking to,   at work today, a young person.   Don't know how we got onto the conversation.   Similar topic to today.   And she said, well, when when did, you know,   humanity, society start using pharmaceuticals?   And I was like,   wow. These pea these people have no knowledge of   how we got to where we are today in terms of history. So I said, you know, JD Rockefeller   came from he was,   one of 5 brothers,   and they sort of all went off and made their wealth. And he did his in   in oil.   I said, so, you know, the refinery   process that it went through with the petroleum   gave off   fluoride,   and, you know, they had to get rid of it because   it it wasn't   purposeful to what his business was doing.  

And therein lies how we ended up with, you know, fluorinated   toothpaste and eventually water.   But   when and I I'm not quite sure what chemical compound he took out of petroleum to start the phone pharmaceutical industry. But that's how it started.   It's   oil industry.   Because before that and I think I think that started something like 1920   9. Before   that, we were using natural remedies, and we were doing alright.  

[00:12:54] Unknown:

We were. We were,   which brings me on. I don't wanna go into it too much because it's this week on the Shelley Tasker show on Wednesday at 8 o'clock. We're gonna delve   more into the whole subject of urine therapy.   Some of you might be thinking, what?   What?   But on Saturday night, for the first time in a long time, I read a whole book in 3 hours,   and it's called the water of life, treaties on urine   therapy by John w Armstrong.   What an enlightening book.   And you can't his case studies and stuff, you cannot you cannot argue   with his case studies and what he he's healed in people.  

You know? They're not allowed. And even when he wrote this book, which is a long time ago,   the the 19   is it 1939   Cancer Act came in? Was that in 1939? I think it was.   But, you know, nobody's allowed nobody's allowed to, like, try and treat cancer or anything like that unless you're pharmaceutical.   Why is that? Because, well,   if you could have a free cure, there would be no money made, would they? It's a big massive business just like all of these COVID jabs.  

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Yeah. Yeah.   And it is that saying, isn't it? And you hear it a lot.   There's no wealth in healthy people.  

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No. Absolutely.   Can you imagine everyone being well? I mean, you know what it's like at the moment, trying to get a doctor's point appointment and stuff.   Yeah. I feel for some of these doctors actually because you would like to think   that as their knowledge has gone on, that they want to treat people   in a different way rather than just write pills,   write prescriptions for pills.  

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Yeah. I think, you know, it   it's such a convoluted situation, isn't it? You know,   they've got time constraints   on them as well. And   the very little time that I do spend at the doctors,   I can't remember the last time,   but   I remember the woman saying to me,   we've only got 7 minutes.   You've already used 5 of them. So is there anything else that you need to discuss?   Well, that was like a red rag to a ball for me. I was like, right. Let's get my coat off, make myself comfy. I'm in for the duration.   And I'm like, how dare you sit here   and say that,   you know, when when I'm not feeling great? I'm here for a reason.  

And you're telling me, basically, I've got to hurry up.   And I was really annoyed about that. And it probably took me several months afterwards to go,   gosh. Could you imagine practicing   like that,   constantly   watching the clock? Because this this patient's taken up, you know, 7 and a half minutes. That's gonna put you behind schedule with the next one. You're gonna have to cut them short,   but that's what they're up against.  

[00:16:02] Unknown:

Yeah. Rather them than me. It's,   it's interesting   times. That's for sure, especially with the whole   pharmaceuticals. And what I noticed now, you've probably seen them around before, but there's a couple of   chemists, actually, one chemist in Campbell,   that if you need to go and collect your prescription and I think this is more for the people that, like,   take meths for, like, addictions and stuff like that. There's, like, a little safe box, and you put a PIN number in it, and you can get your medication.   No.  

There is, Jo.   No. I know.  

[00:16:36] Unknown:

I mean, you know how I absolutely lost my mind over the   the locker   situation. You find outside of supermarkets   or garages   that you can have things delivered to the locker, but you can also put things in there to be   collected and posted out. You know, you had to tell me about that, and I'm like, well, how on earth does that work?   That that that's crazy. And now we've moved on to drugs.   Wow.   Wow.  

[00:17:08] Unknown:

Yeah. And there's a lot of things. I mean, I totally know what I'm doing now. I am like the pro.   And if anything, it comes to like, if someone stood in front of you, you're thinking, don't let that be the last compartment. Please don't let that be because amount of times I've been there and I've typed in my code, and it says, we have no available lockers.   No. But what do you do then? What do you do? I tend to go back a few hours later because they are, like, emptied twice daily.   Right. Okay. But the problem is if you leave something to the last minute to post something like I vented,   it says you've got 5 days to post this. You've got 4 days, and you get announcements.  

And then the last day, you're like, right. And then you don't get to post it, and you're driving around like an idiot trying to find a locker box. Yeah. Because if it doesn't go, you need to cancel that.   Otherwise, you get bad feedback,  

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which is very nice. That that's a whole big headache, isn't it? You know? You could be driving the lengths and breadths of Cornwall looking for To sell something that costs, like, you're making £2 from.  

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But I do like it because sometimes I think this is a hassle. Why why have I bothered? Because I leave it to the last minute. And, I mean, I've got loads of clothes now. I'm thinking, right, I'm just gonna put them all up on vintage.   Because when it all collects in there, like my friend said the other day, she said it's just like free money. And the last time I, like, withdrew a £100, and I thought, do you know? That's not bad for just   a little bit here and there. Sometimes, yeah, it's a bit convenient, but just popping things up that are in good condition,   other stuff goes to the closed bank and stuff like that. But a few quid here and there, if anything, the postage always costs more than what you're saying.  



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So so you leave the money in there. You you use it almost like a bank account. Yeah. You just leave it in the draw out draw out a £100  

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when it hits a £100.   But more than often, I use the balance because I always find things   to buy.   But I've got to stop doing that for because   I think, oh, brilliant. Look at all of those clothes, and and they arrive, and he seems to wear, like, sometimes 1 or 2 ages   above him. You know? They're all too tight or something, something, and I think, oh, I've got to sell them on now. I've got quite a few things that I've bought that I need to sell back on there because they're the wrong size and stuff. But I can tell you where I fall down in a similar site  

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is TikTok shop.  

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I've never bought anything from it only because I couldn't put my card details in once, but that's probably a blessing. Do it, Shelley. Don't do it. It's addictive.  

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Oh oh, my giddy aunt. You know, I   I'm sure you could buy a kidney on there if you wanted.   That you know? Yeah.   I I sometimes find myself going, oh, I'll just I'll just go on and have a little browse, and   then I'm in big trouble.   So,   what did I buy this week?   This week, I've bought a air humidify no. What is it? What is it? Purifier.   I've bought an air purifier.  

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Why?  

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Yep. Yep. I've bought that,   and   I bought I stocked up more on my jiggery pokery   stuff via TikTok.   Because, like,   well known branded companies   will also use TikTok to sell their products. So you're buying direct from them, but I guess they've got some deal with TikTok that they can sell it for a couple of quid cheaper.   That's a top tip for your listeners.   So yeah. Yeah. TikTok's very dangerous place for me. Well, I think  

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the Klarna   app and Clearpay are   Yes. This this month, I'm not doing it. It screwed me over because you figure you just think, oh, just put that on Klarna, pay in 3, or is it Clearpay? You pay in 4.   And, you know, I'm gonna have this lovely my lovely new outfit for Marks and Spencer and my shoes. Yeah. Let's just clear pay it. It's only, like, a £125.   Oh, good. Yeah. Then my water filter, a £150.   Yeah. I'll pay that in 3 months. And then all of a sudden, all of these things start coming out, and you're like, shit. Yeah. I'm not doing it this month. I I I constantly get  

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reminders on my phone pretty much   every other day saying, oh, thank you for your payment of Clearpay. And I'm like, a? What? Oh my god. Oh my god. You know? And then I'm thinking,  

[00:21:34] Unknown:

oh, I've just gotta stop. But I will. I will. It can be helpful, can't it? All of these things. You know? Christmas has come in. It's easier to, like,   pay once a month or what have you, but, ultimately, you still have to pay at the same time.   At the end of the day, you do have to pay.   Yeah.   And Christmas is looming, isn't it? And today, I've actually bought   my first lot of, like, gift sets.   Happy years. Yeah. You know the annual, like, link sets, and it's got to be Africa.   Yes. So they always all the boys in my family, they always get one of those every Christmas. And I said to Darren That that is a given, isn't it? Every man needs that. Back in our day, it would have been my old spice, but now it's Lynx. Lynx Africa. Yeah. So I said I'm just gonna start when I'm out now buying bits and bobs so it's not so stressful.   Yeah. Do you find it stressful buying stressful wrapping? Oh, I hate wrapping. I hate it. If I bought you, like, 4 books, they'd all be wrapped up in the same paper.  



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Yeah. Yeah.  

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Yeah. Can't do that with kids, can you?  

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No is the answer. You can't. But the older they get, I found myself going,   do you know what?   I I'm I'm not gonna be a perfectionist because before,   I would make sure, you know, all the corners were really tight. It looked ultra neat and pretty.   And then the older my daughter got, I was just like, you're lucky it's got any Sellotape on it. Yeah. And I used to put a little name tag on everything, and now I think I don't bother now. Permanent marker. I resorted to a permanent marker.   And I   sellotape is not my friend.   I don't know   how I managed to do it,   but I will literally get this sellotape all over me. It will be in my hair.  

At some point of wrapping presents, it will end up in my hair. And I know you can get, like, a little mini roll of Sellotape.   You can even get them, like, on your wrist, so it's sort of got the cut in the edge. I've tried everything,   and I I I just I don't know what happens. It sticks to me as opposed to the wrapping paper.  

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Yeah.   Sellotape.  

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I I always, like, cut it off and, like, well, I don't cut it off. I use my teeth and just use, like, the table, stick loads of it on the table so it's all ready. But, Yeah. But even then, my my mine mine will get, like, under the table, and then I'm trying to peel it off, and then it gets all screwed up. I'm like, oh, it's too much. It's I I you know?   Anybody out there that wants to buy me a gift,   maybe a Ferrari   or a Lamborghini   that doesn't need to be wrapped, I'm all good with that. I'll accept it. You'll accept just a little bow, like, tied on the bumper or something. That you know, we won't say anything about you not putting the effort in.  

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I'll just accept it. No. And if you are a single man out there with lots and lots of money,   get in touch with Jo.  

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And old,   just about to kick the bucket.  

[00:24:52] Unknown:

It's awful, isn't it? But do you know what? If I had my time again   knowing what I know now, I think I probably would have sourced that out. A really elderly gentleman.  

[00:25:02] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, do you remember that model? I use the term loosely.   I think she was called Nicole   Smith or something,   and she married that American,   like, billionaire. He was called JD   something, Corolla.   He looked   like he had just been dug up.   And the age the age difference between them, you know, you weren't talking, like, 20, 30 years. I think it was, like, something like 50 or 60 years between them. Oh gosh. But no. No. No. No. She absolutely loved him.   She  

[00:25:36] Unknown:

absolutely loved him. She absolutely loved him. Funny enough, he didn't last very long, but, you know But he enjoyed his time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I bet he did. And she's a full quality student. Yeah. They can't be that stupid neither. There are stupid people out there. But if you think, wow, I'm by myself. I've got all this money. I've got beautiful young chick here that wants   to do whatever,   and I can just share all my money with her. Why the hell not? Yeah. And I think I think when you've got that amount of money,  

[00:26:09] Unknown:

you're not really bothered because you're not really gonna miss it. Do you know what I mean? It's like,   oh, did she just go and spend 500,000,000?   Oh, I didn't even notice.   It means nothing to me, so I don't really care if she's just using me for my money because I've got so much of it. It literally grows on trees.  

[00:26:29] Unknown:

Oh, just just imagine that. Oh. I'm very grateful because, like, Darren pays for, like, going out and things like that. And it but it took me a long time   to accept that because I've always been so independent.   And I'd always be like, I'll pay half. I'll pay half, or I'll pay this time when, really, I didn't really have the money.   And now   I do just let him pay. I don't even I'm just like, are you gonna get the tab, babe?   Yeah. I might buy the odd drink, but, that sounds awful, doesn't it? But No. He treats me like I'm a princess, but I did say to you the other day, he said no to me.  

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I can't I've I've spilled over that. I have spilled going  

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into our 7 year itch. There's such a thing, ain't there?   Because   today, he told me   how to load the forks and spoons properly in the dishwasher. Just a bit just a bit of advice, he said. Put the spoons upside down,   and then they pull the clock away. That. No. No. No. I've been told. I said, Darren, I said, you're running   on thin ice, my love. I said, you've told me no once this week, and now you're in my kitchen   telling me what to do.   I tell you what, he's getting a little bit brave. That's what I said. I mean, I only wanted the piano moved. I know it's a big heavy   object,   but I just said to him, it does it doesn't work.  

I don't ask for much, do I? And he just turned around, and he went, no. And I went,   what what did you say?   He said, we are not moving that piano   into the garden   until somebody breaks it up. He said, when it's ready to be broken up and we've got time, we'll take it out then.   And I'm like,   okay. But it will be before Christmas because my Christmas tree is going where the piano is. So Were you not in shock?   Yeah. He's never turned around and just said no to me. Never. We did both laugh about it because even when he said it I bet I bet he shocked himself by just saying it.  

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Yeah.  

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I know. I know.  

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I mean yeah. I mean,   I've gotta give it to him. You know? He is being brave and sort of standing up a bit, isn't he? You know? I should say. I can't handle this, though. How dare you? That's what I was about to say. I'm like, it's not very becoming of him. No. It's not it's not the Darren that we all know and love.  

[00:28:50] Unknown:

And the little white lie a couple of weeks ago about couldn't do the film. Yeah. We're a nice 7 year itch.  

[00:28:56] Unknown:

Yeah.   That's like he's he's he's gone for the hat trick.   Italy. Wow. Three things literally in a row. Yep. Yep.  

[00:29:08] Unknown:

Well, at least he was married.  

[00:29:10] Unknown:

Do you think that,   you know, he has   lunch provided at him where for him, where he works,   that maybe they're drugging him?  

[00:29:22] Unknown:

I don't know. I don't know where all this confidence has come from, really, but,   I am I am not having it. I told him today, you know, and I told him what you suggested that I'd put something else on hold if I don't get my own way. Yes. Yes. Oh, that that that is the ultimate Yeah.  

[00:29:40] Unknown:

I'll bring you to your knees, my friend, in order to get what I need. So   yeah. Yeah. It's always a good one. Yeah. Yeah. Well, hopefully,  

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it won't come to that. But, yeah, bless him. He's been alright. He's he's been DIY ing all day. It never ends in this house, I tell you. Bedroom is just He likes it though. He's lovely.   He loves it. He does. But he has just got a habit. God. I sound like I'm bad mouthing him, but I'm really not. He orders things when he thinks about it, and they start piling up in the house. And it's like, that job that job isn't gonna be ready for another couple of months. And when I decided a few years ago that I wanted to gloss the staircase red,   he came home   with a red paint.  

And Oh my god. Got round to gloss in the staircase. The staircase isn't even properly finished built at the moment either.   But I said to him, you do realize that I don't wanna paint it red anymore, don't you? That was 2 years ago.   Oh, no.  

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No.   So you've got red paint in the garage along with all his other tools that he collects. Yeah. He just loves it. Loves collecting tools and loves ordering things.  

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Yeah. He's a very nice man.   So, anyway, I like to give him something to do, Joe. You know? Bless him. He might be a bit slow, and I  

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do say that to him. He isn't. He isn't. You know? I mean, he's he's he is.   And I say this with respect.   He is a bit of a Jackal and Hyde character because in one breath, he's ultra quiet   that if you didn't know him, you could perceive that as him being quite shy.   But on the other breath,   there's this   undertone  

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Of defiance. Defiance.  

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You know? I'm I'm just   yeah.   Interesting   character.  

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Well, it's only taken nearly 7 years to get to this point. So goodness me, what will he be saying no to in another 7 years?  

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Years? God. You'll get to 14 years, and he'll be just running amok, won't he?  

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No. I don't think he will, bless him. But I think I'm just like, when I want something done, I want it done now. And that's why I said no. And I was like, not right now. Tomorrow.   Like, no. No. But, like, when we're gonna go and walk the dog like earlier, I swear it takes him 10 minutes to go and put a jumper on and put his shoes on. I'm like, what have you been doing?   You're so slow.   I'm I'm horrible. I am horrible. No. You're not. No. You're not. I'm just impatient, Jo. I'm just impatient.  

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But it does take you know, I I've gotta say I am kind of with him on that. You know, you've gotta   mentally assess   kind of what   the weather is like outside.   Is it cold,   or is it   just   on the edge of mild being cold?   Therefore,   what jumper do I have? I don't wanna have to put a big one on because I'm gonna get too hot. You know, there's so many variables  

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to consider. Man. They shouldn't be like that. No. Women, yes, but not men. No.   He is he is just Darren. Bless him. I I love him to bits. We've had a giggle tonight because,   you know, my dog's quite overweight, isn't he?   And everybody tells me that He's somewhat round.   Yes. Like a seal. For you listeners, I've got a Springer Spaniel,   6 years old. And,   yeah, he is round, bit like a seal, and,   we weighed him again. I can't remember what it was the other day. Oh, no. But it worked out that he was, like, a stone and a half overweight.   Oh.  

And I have to say to Darren to stop feeding him and see he can't help it. He's a feeder.   And today, he got a bone out of the cover and a treat, and he said, oh, should we get you a treat? And I said, no. Why?   Why does he need a treat now? He said, because it's Sunday, and he's being good.  

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Oh my gosh.  

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Oh my gosh. Like, is there any wonder?   You've got to, you know, you've you've got to help me out on this. And, like Yeah. The dog always has his dinner after us, and, usually, we'd have all the leftovers and stuff like that. And if it's a few vegetables and all, that's fine. But when there's, like, a bowl of gravy and stuff like that and mashed potato, no. Yeah. It's it's just so the dream.  

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Living the dog is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The dog is living the dream. He's like, oh, what's on what's on the menu tonight then, dad?  

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What do we have it? I say to that dog, you eat better than I do. You eat more than I do. You know? As soon as you walk through with the plate, he's expecting you to empty the contents   in his butt. Fair enough. That's what we have done for a long time. But I've said to Darren tonight, we need to make a serious effort to to get that dog to lose weight. So  

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But it's not like he's idle either. He's he's constantly on the go, isn't he, your dog? So Yeah. And he has an hour walk every day. Yeah. Wow. He's just big boned.  

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Yeah.   Okay.   People do people can be big boned.   And you know when you see, like, very overweight people and then you look at their families, and they're very big as well.   Genetics must have a part to play in it.   I bet I mean, we have domesticated   them somewhat, aren't we, the dogs?  

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Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the and there is there is something to say for being big bones. There really is.   Yeah. I I don't think your dog is in this instance. I think he's just round, and Darren needs to be   cruel to be kind and just just slowly cut back his food so he doesn't notice. And then before you know it,   you'll have a slim lined,  

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even more excited dog than what he is now. I if he can say no to me, he can say no to the bloody dog.  

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Do you know what? That's what I'd be saying to him. That's what I'm gonna say to him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You treat that dog better than me, Darren. Oh, I do see that. Yeah. Say no to him.  

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Oh, I love it. I love it. Well, look. We're gonna take a very quick music break, and then when we come back, Jo, I want to hear all about what you've been doing with the whole   Cornwall farmers movement.  

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We can have a look at that. Yeah.  

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Right. Let me find my song. Right. This one,   if I can find it, it was right on my desktop.   Right. Here we go. Matt Munro.  

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Born   free,   as free as the wind   blows,   as free as the grass   grows,   born free to follow your heart.   Live   free,   and beauty   surrounds   you.   The world   still astounds   you.   It's It's time   you look at a star.   Stay   free   when no worlds   divide   you.   You're free as a roaring   tight, so there's no need   to hold.   Free,   And life is worth living,   but only worth living   because you're   born   free.   Stay   free   when no wolves   divide   you.   You're free as a   roaring   tide, so there's no need to harm.   Born   free,   and life  

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Woo.  

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Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo. I love that song. It makes Brilliant. My hair Brilliant. Stand up on end.   Anyway, miss Jo, miss young Jo Wood, tell us what you've been up to and what's going on with the whole Cornwall farmers movement.  

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Well, I mean  

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Firstly, sorry, tell the listeners what Cornwall Farmers Movement is all about.  

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Okay. So,   it's a Facebook   group   page   that really is dedicated   to   our farmers, I. E. The hand that feeds us,   and and   and   trying to get a better deal for him because probably over the last   10,   12 years,   you know, what they   the effort that they put in to produce what they do,   they reap   very little from that financially.   So the the the effort that they   expend   in in physical   activity doesn't even   come close   to what   they get back in in physical payment. It's   in in essence, they're working for pretty much pence.   And it's gradually just been,   like I said,   a very steady decline.  

And the writing was on the wall, really,   sort of as where this was gonna go.   And, obviously, we've had the budget and miss ceramic   head, as I like to call her,   You know? Because her hair just doesn't generally move. It looks like it it looks like one of those,   Lego people, you know, that you sort of clip their hair onto.   And she released in the budget what she's   going to be implementing   come   I think it's   2026,   maybe.   Well, she she'll start implementing   it next April, so it'd be phased in.   Yeah. So it's gonna be phased in,   that will literally   have a   catastrophic   effect on everybody.  

So what they're gonna phase in is   inheritance   tax that farmers   have always been exempt from because   although we know it as inheritance   tax,   for them, it comes comes under the bracket of agricultural property relief and business property relief.   And in essence, it's inheritance   tax. But because it's been named   as something else and the law   recognizes it as something else, they've never paid, you know, a hefty tax on it. Well, that's all about to change.   So what Rachel Reeves has now said is,   farms   with assets worth more I need to get this right. With more   farms with assets   worth more than £1,000,000   will have to start paying, and she used this word,   death duties.  

I mean, jeez. If that's not an invitation   to start rising up and saying, hang on a minute. What do you want us to do? Slit our wrists now?   So   they are trying to close,   I guess, a loophole   that, you know,  

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they are find another way to get off the farmers Yeah. And to make more money in taxes.  

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Yeah. So,   you know, that's that that'll be gradually phased in next year, and it'll be fully up and running the following year, April April 2026.   So   she's kind do you know, in essence, what it is? She's given with one hand, and she's taken with another. So   she is saying,   oh, but if your farm and assets   on that farm   is worth more than £1,000,000,   I'll cap the   relief   that you will have by 50%.   So,   you know, in fact, let let's just say if you've got £1,000,000,   she's not gonna tax you on £1,000,000.   She's gonna   moaning?   Well,   you know,   farmers   generally are   asset rich and cash poor,   because like I've just demonstrated,   the effort   that they put in to produce   products for us   is so costly   compared to what they get paid.  

They don't have cash.   They're only rich by   the land that they own and the machinery   and anything else that sits on that land. So it's an asset.  

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Yeah. And I don't think people understand,   do they? Like, the whole just as an example, like, they sell their milk to the supermarkets,   and they're tied into contracts.   And the supermarkets are putting their price up, but they're not allowed the farmers aren't allowed to put their price up Yeah. And actually just making a loss.  

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Exactly. So like I said, they're they're literally working for for pence.   So I think it was the National Farmers Union   did a survey, and they said,   the average farm in England is something like   80 or 88   hectares,   which would be   the value would be   well over a1000000.   So the higher   your   land and assets is over that £1,000,000   mark,   you're gonna be paying a higher   inheritance  

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tax rate on it. And to be fair, the most farms are gonna be over £1,000,000,   aren't they? Because, you know, you should get a small hold in for about 750  

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grand, but, you know, with land and stuff, it's gonna be over a1000000. Yeah. So, you know, let let let's just talk about the small farmers. So we use that as what you've just said as an example.   You know, 750   for a farm.   You've then gotta have   machinery on that farm. You've then gotta have   food source in the winter   for any,   you know, cattle that you may be having.   If you're not doing cattle and you're just doing veg, then you've got to be buying, you know,   the seeds.   You've got to be,   you know, bringing them on   maybe in some sort of polytunnel,   a certain veg before you would plant it out. So all of these things   that you would have to buy or use to enable you to do your job as a farmer cost money,   and   that would then be   back in the good old days, that would be classed   as   agricultural   property relief. Well, now she's just doing away with that, and she's just saying all of that will be inheritance   tax.  

So you're right. A small holding   will be over   £1,000,000.   Then you look at, you know,   a small   running farm that that, you know, sells into supermarkets.   They are gonna be way over £1,000,000.   They're gonna be way over the £2,000,000   mark. And then   if if you dare die,   you're probably I think I think I think the percentages   on a £2,000,000   farm,   your inheritance   tax would be 400,000.   So they're nearly taking   50% of it.   Now the problem again with that is, like I said,   farmers   are asset rich. They're not cash cash   rich.   So   if you're paying 400,000   in tax   only to get back 60,000   600,000,   you probably won't be able to run the farm with that. So then you're gonna be forced   to sell it. And herein lies the kicker.  

You just know that the government are gonna come   and throw you a crumb   and   say, oh, well, we we can help with that.   We we can buy that land off you   for, you know, a good price, a go in market price because they will alter   the market prices   to their favor.   And these poor   families that have been left   sort of clobbered with the inheritance   tax will have no option to sell the farm.   And that is a generational thing. The majority of farms are generational,   be it in England or anywhere else. Farming is a way of life. Farming is a vocation.   It's not a job.  

You know? You're born into it. So   so for the government to come along and start saying,   no. We're gonna start closing a loophole,   because   I think they are saying   by   2027,   the inheritance   tax that they're bringing by 2026   will raise   2,000,000,000,000.   So in in what?   In probably 18 months,   by 2027,   they would have raised 2,000,000,000   just just in that small time.   So, you know, they're they're gonna do that, and they are also   gonna bring in   tax on inherited   pensions.   So, again,   you, as a farmer, would have   a a personal pension pot,   and they're they're gonna throw that into the inheritance tax as well, which will then take you way over   that 50%   capped bracket that you would pay back on.  

So it you know, that's gonna push you higher up to the higher end   of touching 2,000,000.  

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It's a joke, isn't it? It's an absolute  

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joke. It is absolutely   terrible. And like I said, you know,   I I'm probably being   you know, I'm I'm I'm way underestimating   the time. But for the last sort of 10, 12 years, the farmer,   by the government   and big corporations   like you just said that will come in and buy their products,   have been shafted. They've been undervalued.   They've been   undercut for everything that the farmers are selling,   you know, to to big supermarkets   to feed us. And that's the point.   People   you know, everybody leads busy lives, but people have been   neglectful   in   understanding   where their food comes from.  

You know?   They they just take it for granted that if you want a pack of of carrots,   they're gonna be wrapped in plastic.   And   they don't give it a thought that, you know, actually, a farmer's had to invest his time and his money to grow those carrots. Are they getting a fair price rate?   No.   They're not. So that's   gradually gone on   throughout the years. And   I think   with   with this with this little announcement,   I would say   it's the penultimate   nail in the coffin.   There there will be the final nail in the coffin, and   I think   that is when the farmers will start behaving like the French.  

You know, they've got a rally coming up,   19th November in London.   Apparently, it's gonna be a very, very big one. And I sincerely   hope people go with their muck spreaders.   I do   because there's safety in numbers. And if we can   educate for one of a better word, if we could educate   the public   in just how much we should value our farmers and pay them fairly,   you know, we can turn the tide on this.   We can stop Rachel Reeves executing   this in April 2026.   We can make them do a u-turn, you know, because we are   we are   in the last 4 years of the crazy world that we've all lived through. We are at what we call critical mass now.  

You know, we are at the point of   the numbers that we have   are enough   to alter   the way this world is run.   And I think we need to use that in our favor in terms of, you know, what's going on with farmers.  

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Yeah. Interestingly,   in our high street, the last butchers has just shut down. Oh. Yeah. So in our high street, there's just not one butcher anymore.   I'm very lucky to have a village   butcher, and he's very busy, actually.   But most people, they will go to supermarkets and get their meat and stuff, and I fully support him and have done for the last   year, actually, since this has all been going on with the farmers You know, the milk is no more expensive than it is in a supermarket. Yeah. You're   gonna pay a little bit more. You're gonna be paying for,   like, your finest sausages and Tesco's,   that sort of price.  

But   the quality you're getting  

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Absolutely.  

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There's there's no competition, really. I've I couldn't go back to buying shop meat. I mean, I would if I had to,   but I don't. So everybody has to start doing their little things, don't they? Yeah. Yeah.  

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You know,   it's baby steps. It's it's just making   one difference.  

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Yeah. I saw a good meme on Facebook, actually. Said if you stop buying milk at Tesco's,   they probably wouldn't really notice.   But if you started buying milk at your local farm shop, if everyone thought that way, it would make a massive difference. Yes. Yes. Yes. It would. And then  

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then it just becomes a habit   and,   you know,   it becomes life life affirming. It becomes   a life habit that everybody would do because they wouldn't know any different.   I go to the I go to the farm shop, and I can get the majority of my food   there.   And the more people that get in that habit of doing it,   then it it pushes   supermarkets   into  

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And comparing it to, like, the whole vaccine and pharmaceutical   stuff, really,   we've gone back, haven't we? We thought we progressed into supermarkets,   but, actually, we've taken away all of the old way, all the independent companies and businesses.   And, like, my butcher, it's lovely to go down and have a chat. They know who I am. He you know?   And you've got that whole community thing as well.  

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Yeah. And that's what it's about, and that's what we need to get back to. So   like I said, they've got the,   they've got the rally in London on 19th November. But   here in Cornwall,   the Farmers Movement   Cornwall page on Facebook,   we are doing our rally on   the 23rd   November.   So,   hopefully,   you know, within the community,   people will stop   and realize,   oh, these these people are back again because we've done one, you know, probably   6, 8 months ago.   And then we're back out on the street again. Well, they've obviously got something to say. I'll I'll go down there, and I'll listen to them.   And one of our guys,   Farmer p, as he is known as,   really knows his   facts and stats. You know? He's got the statistical,   you know, graphs.  

He's got the information.   He's got all the   web pages from the government.  

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So he's not just standing there, sprouting out. And he's a fountain of knowledge, isn't he? He he absolutely is.  

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It it it you know, I I'm just astounded that   we're in this position where we are   having to tell people,   don't bite the hand that feeds you. We need our farmers,   but you are contributing   to   to their decline.   You're allowing the government to come out with these these   abomination   taxes that are gonna crucify   families.   You know, only last week,   a day after Rachel Reid announced her budget,   a farmer committed suicide   because he just couldn't bear to carry on   knowing   that the money he the little money that he'd be making   would be going   straight into the government pot and not to his family.  



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How sad. Awful. Awful. Awful.   Yeah. Well, you know, you listeners out there, I hope you can do your bit as well because it is as easy as that. It's just supporting your local butchers, stop buying in supermarkets,   support your farm shops.   Just really think about, you know, that cake you're eating,   all of those ingredients.   It all comes from farmers.  

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Yes. Yes. Yes. You're right. You're you're absolutely right.   And, again, you're getting   a better   nutritional   benefit   from   buying direct from the farmers as opposed to   supermarkets where it's probably been sat on the shelf for god knows how many days.  

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Yeah. And when you eat food and you and it says, comes from wherever,   Greece or what have you. Yeah. And it's been put into vacuum bags and filled with whatnot to keep it fresh and then into containers carried over here. Lovely.  

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Yeah. I mean, the ironic thing is, you know, there's always a big drive to get rid of plastics within your sort of, you know, food source. They make you buy plastic carrier bags, but they're still quite happy to wrap all their produce in plastic.   The 2 just don't, you know No.  

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Go together. Well, look, we're gonna have to end it there, my lovely. So that's Farmers Movement Cornwall   on Facebook.   People Correct. People can go and have a look. Do go and have a look, guys. Some great post there.   So thank you, Jo, for wonderful conversation   as always.   You're most welcome. Bless you. You can enjoy eating your crisps now.   Right. I'm gonna play the intro music, and I'm gonna finish on time. Time. Eric von Essex is up next on Radio Soapbox. Have an awesome weekend, guys.