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In this episode of Women's Hour, we dive into a fascinating discussion with Jo Wood about the mysterious lights seen in the UK skies, which she believes are not the Northern Lights but rather a result of HAARP (High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Program). Jo shares her personal experience of witnessing the Northern Lights and explains the concept of HAARP, its potential for weather modification, and its implications worldwide. We explore the controversial idea of weather manipulation and its possible connections to recent extreme weather events in North Carolina, Wyoming, and Florida.
In the second half, we chat with Tracy Barnes about the emotional challenges faced by staff and residents as their care home is set to close in a few months. Tracy shares her concerns about the future, the impact on residents, and the camaraderie among staff during this uncertain time. We discuss the importance of activities in care homes and the personal connections formed with residents. Tracy also opens up about her aspirations beyond the care home, including her interest in writing and the potential for new ventures.
Join us for an engaging hour filled with intriguing discussions on weather phenomena, conspiracy theories, and the heartfelt realities of working in a care home.
Good evening to all the wonderful women out there and the occasional gentlemen listening. You are listening to Women's Hour coming live out of radiosoapbox.com. It's good to have your company. I am also streaming live via Rumble. My channel is Shelley Tasker. Today's date is Sunday, 13th October 2024. Wow. Times are going quick. So got a great great hour lined up ahead. First half, we've got the amazing Jo Wood, and second half, the amazing Tracy Barnes. Good evening, Jo. Hello. Hello. How are you? I'm very well. Thank you. This is a sneaky call with Jo at work.
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It is. I am today, I am in the broom cupboards. I am hiding. I am hiding from it all and from them all. It's been relentless.
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Really? Endless. Oh, well. Couple more days and you've got a day off. Oh. So I wanted to say, Jo, did you get your camera out, and did you take some beautiful photos of the Aurora?
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Well, had I traveled that far north, you know, chances of that happening are 0. No is my answer because What do you mean? I I don't
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Everyone saw them. Don't believe,
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and it's quite a convoluted answer. I don't believe that the northern lights that everybody has been going on about in the UK the last couple of days were actually the northern lights. No.
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No. No. Shock horror. Shock horror. Well, if they're not the northern lights, then what the hell are they?
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Well well, you know, I will run the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist on two counts because I actually have two answers to that. You know, I have actually seen the Northern Lights. I have been privileged and blessed enough to see them. And they're naturally, with me, it's never straightforward. There's always a story. So when I lived in the States, I was coming back for a couple of weeks, and I can't remember what time of the year it was, but we were flying more north than the original flight path would have been on the way from America to the UK. And, I was sitting next to a guy. He was by the window, empty seat, and I was on the aisle.
And, you know, chatting away, he was a little bit younger than myself. You know, this is going back 30 years. And he was into UFOs, and, you know, I'm sort of going, oh, okay. You know, open mind, but I think you're a little bit wacky. Anyway, he says, oh, do you mind if I just sort of, you know, jump up, need to go to the loo? And I'm like, yeah. Sure. So I was sort of sitting there a couple of seconds past, and I glanced out the window, and I'm like, what? What on earth is that? I could see, like, this green light. It was like a wave. And I'm, like, looking around at everybody going, can they see what I see? And then I'm going, oh my god. It's aliens. Oh my god. This guy's talking about it. And now I see it. And at that moment, the captain came over the tunnel, and he said, and if you look to the left, you'll be able to see the northern lights because we're flying so far north of da da da. And I was like, oh, thank heavens for that. I mean, and they were fantastic.
So, you know, I've I've actually had that firsthand account of seeing them. They sort of move in in a wave, but a vertical wave. They are a very vivid green, and you've got hues of blue and purple. There there is a very slight magenta color in there, but nothing like the UK, And I think parts of Europe have experienced, which are like just basically a nice rosy warm pinky red color. And my my thought around that is I think it's harp. And although if you Google it, they say, oh, no. The conspiracy people are saying it's harp that's caused the recent northern lights. Can you explain to the listeners, Jo, what harp is if they've never heard of it before? Yeah. So it's a high frequency active aurora research program, HAARP, high frequency Active Aurora Research Program.
And, basically, they are like telegraph poles, that no. Not telegraph poles. They're like pylons. So I guess if you're living in the States, they would be sort of like, your pylons that are carrying your high voltage wires across the country and the same for the UK and anywhere else, really. And they have huge, antennas on top of them, and they send out for, they send out via that huge antenna, like, a a high radio frequency. I think it's called something like an Ios an I ionospheric ionospheric research instruments, something like that. But, basically, they're sort of high radio frequencies that they send out to, sort of excite the atmosphere.
So it sort of collides into sort of, you know, the molecules and the frequency within our own atmosphere. And I think when they sort of started to develop it I don't know when they developed it, probably in the sixties like most crazy stuff. They figured out that they could interact with our own frequencies and change the frequencies within the atmosphere.
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So weather modification,
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really? Yeah. Yeah. And I guess they've got pretty good at it because if you take Dubai, you know, they've openly admitted that they they cloud siege with the use of, iosulfheric radio frequency. So they will send up via HAARP these antennas, you know, the re radio frequency to excite the atmosphere, and then they will start cloud seeding that makes it rain in Dubai. And, again, I've I've had firsthand of that. You know? I went to the Far East the beginning of the year, and I stopped in Dubai. And, unfortunately, I stopped in Dubai probably about 18 hours after the floods there had finished.
And, when I say floods, I'm talking probably, you know, a 2 story building floods. It was like it was it was like a lake. You know, you couldn't determine where the roads were or anything. The airport was like a war zone. People had been camped out there for 3 days. It was absolutely horrendous. And then about 2 days after leaving Dubai, the government come out and said, oh, yes. We could see that there was a weather front coming in, so we decided to cloud seeds. And, basically, we overdid it and caused these floods. And that's happening all over the world.
Have you heard about North Carolina and the mountains being flooded?
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Vaguely. I saw that on a thread the other day, and I thought, oh, So please tell us more.
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Gosh. So I think it's called Asheville, a town. And when I say a town, you know, basically, it's probably the size of you know, slightly smaller than London. Naturally, everything in the States is bigger. So this town in North Carolina is way up in the mountains. And all the houses there, they don't have flood insurance. You wouldn't think of the mountains having a flooding problem, so it's never been a thing. Also, this particular town sits right on top of I think I think it falls in, like, the top 5, if not the top 3, of lithium natural lithium stores within the surface within the ground. Sorry.
And from what I can gather, the residents of this town have been, you know, objecting to people coming in to mine it, and it's been going on for several years. And I think about 2 weeks before the floods there, a big government mining company had signed a deal with the external companies to give them the rights to start building the infrastructure outside of the town to do the mining for lithium. And then lo and behold, they had this freakish storm that caused untold flooding. The people's houses, and I mean demolished beyond belief, are demolished.
They don't have flood insurance. So, of course, now the government are going in, buying up all these properties that aren't inhabitable. So then once the land starts to drain, they can start to, mine for the lithium. And I think I think the net worth of that lithium store is like running into the trillions.
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Wow. It's always too much of a coincidence, isn't it?
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It is crazy. And you've got the same over in Wyoming. They've got some wildfires that I haven't even seen reported on the news. I haven't seen it at all. And I think there there's I don't know. I I really didn't pay too much attention to it because I was sort of quite saturated with the state of the world that it's in. But, I don't know if they've got lithium stores there or whether there's, like, an oil reserve. I think it's something to do with fossil fuel and the oil. Yeah. I mean and this wildfire is huge, absolutely huge. And then, of course, we've had the, the category 5, borderline 6 hurricane going through Florida and Tampa that just sort of, you know, came out of nowhere, and it carried on gaining strength the nearer to land that it got.
And then there was somebody saying that the eye of the storm never never lasts that long over land. Like, you're talking a matter of minutes, but this this ran into something like 25, 30 minutes. Yeah. Crazy times. Crazy.
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Yeah. I did see when they were, when they were pushing stuff out there showing images of the storm in Florida, somebody made a comment and said, why aren't they talking about the floods in Wyoming, whatever? So wow.
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Yeah. So there's there's 3 events, that, you know, have happened simultaneously. And somebody had done, like, a weather map. And the the places that were, like, being hit with whatever the mod, weather modification is. And I think Wyoming, they they they may be still having problems putting it out. Part of the problem was that they had high winds. So, of course, this fire was, like, just going rampant. So somebody did this weather map that they had plotted Wyoming, North Carolina, and Florida. And, you know, sometimes when they do the weather map and if it's a hot spot or a cold spot, I e, it's gonna be a hot front or cold front, it's either blue or red. So they had these patches right over those particular states in Florida.
And it's interesting because just going back to HAARP, when you look if you put in into Google and, you know, they're not trying to hide this stuff. If you put into Google, HAARP, HARP fields or whatever across the world, it shows you all over where these harp stations are. And literally literally, it's a web that pretty much covers every country station. Yeah. I mean, if if anybody is listening, it's it's quite astonishing when you look at this map that it goes from, Alaska, where they first started to build it, where the very first one was built, right over to the western tip of Australia and every country in between. So you've got, Peru. You've got you've got Brazil.
You've got pretty much the northern tip of Africa and and Saudi and Dubai. You've got England in there. You've got Russia. You've got China. You've got India. I mean, it's it's it's frightening. You know, just to go back to people saying, well, you know, that's a bit of conspiracy theory for you. It is when you look at the map, Harp stations around the world, put it into Google, and you will see this map. Why? Why?
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You know? What but why? That is my question and everybody else's. Why would they be doing this? I mean, is it to get the people are they actually doing something, or are they trying to wind the people up that they're seeing this amazing aurora in the sky?
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No. I think they're experimenting. I don't know what with. I'd I'd my answer to that is I don't know. I I don't know. I mean, the the certainly in England I don't know about Europe, but certainly in England, the harp station is in Wales. You know? So that's not that's not too far away from us. But I don't I don't know I don't know why they would mess with the frequency to cause those lights. I mean, I'm sure we'll find out sooner or later. I mean, maybe they're testing it for something that's to come because I also slightly off topic.
I also, read in Northern Ireland, they are not far off bringing in martial law for people to take mandated whatever the government decides to be mandated in the form of health. And they have said the the government, the the council, the police force will come and remove anyone or anything and your possessions with no further questions, and you will be removed from that environment. And I'm like, hang on. Let me just go back and read that. And I was like, oh my gosh. They're actually taking this to a vote in Northern Ireland. They are taking that to a vote.
And I think bringing in harps slightly to it with the experiment and the radio frequency, I think it's I don't wanna say it because I sound crazy.
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No. You don't sound crazy. I think it's some sort
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of control mechanism. You know, let's go back to North Carolina, Wyoming, and Florida, the crazy weather. You know, that's enough to frighten the heebie jeebies out of you. Oh my god. Look at this devastation and, you know, the weather. You never know what it's gonna do. And then you've got crazy red lights that are trying to be, you know, played off for being the northern lights. And then you've got Northern Ireland going, well, actually, we're in parliament, and we're taking it to a vote that if, you know, the government or the council decide that you may have some sort of contagion, then we're coming in, and we're gonna remove you and anything or anyone that you've come into contact with. And they're gonna mandate that. They're gonna they're they're putting that through parliament.
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Oh, I'm gonna have to look this one up. Yeah. I know. And I don't doubt you for a minute, but, yeah, it is crazy. And, I mean, lots of people will say again, another conspiracy theorist, like, the whole, chemtrails
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subject. Wow. Yeah. I mean They're contrails, Jo. Yeah. They of course they are. Of course they are. Again, harp does play. Though those 2, I believe, my take on it is that they work hand in hand hand in hand. They go out and they cloud seed that cause the chemtrails. And, again, that is a reported off you know, it's been given the seal of approval by many governments around the world, especially if you go on to the UK's government web page. Admittedly, you have to search for it. But if you put in there geoengineering, they tell you in black and white that is what they are doing.
They are using cloud seeding chemtrails to control the atmosphere. And they tell you that on their own government papers. So I think HAARP and cloud seeding, I e, chemtrails, work together. Because sometimes when you see these chemtrails I don't know you know when you see it's difficult to explain. You know when you see, like, radio frequency demonstrated on the television or on the computer, it's sort of like those jolty waves. It's not what and when you look up sometimes and you see these chemtrails, you can see that cloud formation is almost like a jolts wave going along.
Well, that's the harp. You know, that's not a natural cloud formation. That's like the harp picking up the radio frequencies and then interacting with whatever those chemicals are that the planes have taken off with and sprays. And, again, I sound crazy. But when you go on to the government, government website, you pull up their papers, they tell you they're doing that. And again, why? Why? They come back with the answers of climate change. Well, do you know what? I'm inclined to agree with them. Yeah. There is climate change because they're making it be climate change. There is no natural climate change.
They are making this adverse crazy weather.
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And it's you know, we go back to summers when we were younger. And summer was summer. Blue skies every day. Yep. And it's almost like they're doing it to depress us as well.
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And I think I I think that's true. I think, you know, you're you're absolutely right. I mean, I can't remember the last well, I can. That was about 4 years ago when, you know, we were told not to leave our house, and it was a beautiful summer.
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It was Yeah. No flights or anything.
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No flights. No nothing. No spraying, you know. And that's like you. That's how I remember the summer. That's how I remember the summer. And, again, just going back to harp, the moment people were told they could leave their houses, it all started again. Now, you're saying, why are they doing all of this? There's also another theory, and I don't know too much about it. And I don't even know if it's a possibility. I think it is, but to what degree, I'm not sure. Some people say that the magnetic poles are shifting. Mhmm. So north won't be north anymore. It would be south and vice versa.
Now did some bright spark in some lab years decades ago realized that that is a strong possibility that that could happen. So, therefore, we better engineer something to try and keep it under control, I e, HAARP, weather modification, or are they just doing it because they're complete and utters? I don't know. I really don't know. Both, I should imagine. Yeah. All I know is what's going on is very, very unnatural. And those lights people are being photographed in, putting on Facebook and social media everywhere. Oh, look. Isn't it lovely?
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I'm like, oh Yeah. Are you mad? They're not. And even Darren was saying earlier, we do like to squabble about things like this. I said, it's harp. And, I said, go and then debate it with me. And he said, well, I haven't really researched it. I said, well, therefore, you've got no, no need to comment, have you?
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, I'm not saying that my belief or my opinion about this is totally correct, but what I'm saying is it's not totally wrong.
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No. It's a bit crazy to suddenly think that after all these years in history, that suddenly we get to see this spectacular view of the northern lights that are in, you know, a different country. Apparently, occasionally, you can see them over here if it's cold enough and the weather's clear enough, but not the way that we've been seeing them the last couple of months here.
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It's too it's too crazy. Yeah. And I and I and I think, you know, I I've never seen them here. And in my lifetime, I've only ever seen one shooting star. You know, it's not something that happens a lot. And I'm sure maybe if you're that far north, if you're like, you know, at the tip of Scotland or somewhere, you might have a better chance of seeing the northern lights. But that's, like, pretty much a a rarity, a once in a lifetime thing. And I think, you know, maybe maybe it it goes in cycles. And, you know, if you live to reach a ripe old age and you may have seen them, great. But your next generation may not. It's so rare.
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It is. And the thing is with the camera as well, obviously, it doesn't see what the eyes see. And I had lots of speculation because they're all red. Well, specifically, the northern lights are more green. Yes. There is magenta and reds, but the more common colors are green. Yeah. But the main colors that everybody seems to be picking up on is red.
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Yeah. Yeah. You know, and what what red for danger, isn't it? It's it's it's it's almost like, you know, that that they're putting it in your face. They're even talking to you via color now saying red for danger.
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Oh, well, do you know what? That half an hour's gone quick, hasn't it? Is it half an hour? Relaxed. Moraxed. Yeah. Wow. And I knew we'd talk literally about the weather, and it's funny because I know you've been posting a lot about it, and I was thinking, it must have Jo on week on the other show, the Shelley Tasker show, and we'll go into depth over this. And then when you said tonight, let's talk about the weather, it's like, it's not really a women's hour thing, but
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it's what you're interested in, and I think we're all interested in the weather, aren't we? Well, yeah. I mean, sort of just going back to it's not really a woman thing. You know? You know, I mean, women's hour. Well, yeah, without without being sexist, because obviously we're females. But, you know, the weather does really come into a woman's life quite a bit. 1, hanging washing out. 2, I mean, I don't know about you, but sometimes I look outside and I go, oh, no. It's not raining and it's not sunny. It's kind of that dampness. Rain, miserable. That's not a good hair day. And a lot of women think like that. Oh my god. You know, I wish it would just be dry or it would rain.
Not this in between thing because then you end up with the frizz.
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Oh, I just want the sun. If it's gonna be gray, rain. I love it when in when I'm inside and it's raining. But literally, a few weeks ago when I had a day off and I woke up in and it was gray, I did cry. It's not lying. I was just so fed up of not having any sunshine.
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Yeah. And like you said earlier, that that is all part of it, I think, to make us depressed. And, you know, at whatever moment they decide to throw us crumbs, we'll all be so blooming desperate,
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we'll end up taking it. Well, when we are, when there's when there's a hint of sunshine out there, I'm out there. You know? I know it's, like, kind of slowing down a bit now. We did have, I think, Thursday Friday a couple of really nice days. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, I've put my sun lounger away. And it's not hot hot, but, oh, just that sunshine. I love it. I love it. I mean, I I was up quite early on,
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Friday, and I sat outside, you know, just getting some sun on my face. And I was like,
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oh, that's lovely. It is. It's a feeling. I like it when I'm out walking the dog and you hit that sunny spot. And I do quite often just stand there, close my eyes, just stand for a minute and think, oh, this is heaven. Yeah. Taste of heaven.
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Yeah. And it's quite a nice mix. You can still feel that warmth of the song, but then you've got that Christmas in the cold air. Yeah. It is beautiful at the moment.
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Anyway, well, thanks for that, miss Jo Wood. You're most welcome. No. That was really interesting and saves me reading all the posts and what have you. I don't seem to get much time. And as per usual, your knowledge, I love how you just grasp these names and remember them. I can just about today, I was doing a shopping list, and I couldn't think of the word for plug ins. You know, those little thing that you plug in your wall? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I just wrote on my list smelly things. My brain has just gone. But you knew what it meant. So that's what it meant. Yeah. But isn't every time I have a conversation, I'm, like, stumbling from words. This is menopause.
The joy the joy of being a woman. Yeah. Yeah. There there you go. Alright, my angel. Well, thank you, and we will chat some more soon. Have an awesome week. Thanks, Jo. See you soon. Talk to you later. Bye bye. Bye. Bye. She does know her stuff. She does. I just can't retain information, and I've gotta stop saying that. I've gotta stop saying I can retain information. Perhaps I need to start doing some brain training, those gains you can get. Anyway, so we've got the awesome Tracy Barnes on with us, friend of the show. It's been a few times now, and let's get Tracy on the line.
I understand she's been at work today, but today, she's been cooking A bit different from her usual role. Just bear with me a second. I can't find her on Skype. There she is. Right. Let's give her a call. Tracy is not online. Well, she bloody better be. We've confirmed. We've confirmed. Perhaps, perhaps we're gonna do it, on Messenger. Let's try Messenger. We might have done it via Messenger the last couple of times, so perhaps that's why. Right. Bear with. Yep. We're ringing. She's not on Skype. Profile picture, black hair. Changes every time I see her.
Ginger, red, yellow. Good evening. Hello. You're loud. Good evening, missus Barnes. You alright? I'm alright. Oh, you're ginger.
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I am. I've been very ginger.
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I just saw your profile picture because your hair's black then. I'm like, every time I see you, you've got a different hair color. How are you anyway?
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Alright.
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Oh. Oh, come on. Share share with auntie Shelley.
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I don't know. I think I'd probably I just feel a bit I think everyone does at the minute. Let's let's have a recap.
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Me and Tracy kind of work alongside well, not together, but the same company, the care home. The care home is closing down in about 4, 5 months now, and the morale is pretty low.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So I think everyone's in a bit of limbo.
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Yeah. What you're gonna do next? Like you say, you were given this job, and now you well, you're without a job in a few months' time.
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I think it's worry, isn't it? It's like it's not just worrying about yourself. You worry about the people you work with, who you've created this relationship with. Yeah. You worry about the people you look after. Where are they gonna go? Are they gonna be looked after properly? It's all sorts, isn't it? It goes through your head. And I think it's starting to hit me more now that people are sort of leaving and moving on.
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Yeah. Yeah. It's hard. I mean, I know we've got a resident going tomorrow that's a favorite of mine, and I've just been and bought my teddy bear this afternoon. You get you get attached to these people, don't you? They become a huge part of your life. You do. And I think,
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to be honest, I think I've sort of I don't know if anyone else has, but I know that I've sort of been plodding along as normal because nothing was really happening. Mhmm. And then I think when things start happening, it kind of doesn't hit you that actually oh, crap. This isn't this is happening.
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Yeah. It's like you go into work, and it's like, I'm never gonna see you again. Well, we're all friends, and I know we'll see each other on Facebook and stuff. But there's, like, less staff, and you've had to take the floor now, haven't you? Yeah. Yeah. Is that gonna be a regular thing then?
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Probably. I mean, moving on, I mean, as it kind of gets less and less on both sides, staff and residents. Yeah. I mean, I I'd like to stay to the very end, really.
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Yeah. I I'm going to. That's my plan.
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It's very difficult because, obviously, you don't wanna be out of a job. And at the end of it, I don't wanna sort of get to the end of it and then think, oh, crap.
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I'm hanging on for the fact that everyone will be gone by the end of January, and I'm gonna get 2 months pay for being at home. Maybe. Hopefully. Maybe. Well, they said we were all gonna be, like, contracted there till the end of March, didn't they?
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Yeah. I mean, I don't know how. I know there's this they'd be obviously on meeting coming up, But I will probably be told, like, more about all of that sort of stuff. But I just I'm very much now I'm not really not not believing anything, but I unless I can touch it, see it Yeah. You don't I'm not really clinging to it. Do you know what I mean? I'm kind of that's where I'm at with everything at the minute. I need you know, things need to be set in stone.
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Yeah. Yeah. And they've been using them. And that's the thing. If everybody just packs up now and says I'm out, then there's no staff. But you can't blame people for doing it, can you?
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It's not as easy as well as a lot of you know, people who sort of don't work in this sort of sector and stuff probably think, well, you know, if it's shops, you just move them on somewhere else. It's not that simple. Tell
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tell tell the listeners what sort of problems
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So many so many homes have shut already. Nursing beds are basically like rocking or shit. And they're just shutting more and more nursing beds. All the like, we're a we are a nursing home. So that's 28
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beds now that have gone, nursing beds that will be gone. And we're the last Cornwall County Council owned home, aren't we?
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Yeah. I think we're the only one, weren't we? Yeah. The last one. But trying to find beds and things, it's not as easy as going to a home and going, oh, you've got a bed. Right? You'll this person. Assessments have to be done. Funding has to be taken into consideration. If there's any sort of challenging behaviors, it has to be taken into consideration. Then that home has to decide if they want or if they can handle that person. Do you know what I mean? It's if they're a good fit for that individual, it might they might not be. Yeah. Yeah. So it's not, you know, it's not a simple case of just pick them up and move them somewhere else.
And, actually, you know, for a lot of these guys, moving from one place to another is a really traumatic experience.
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But we've seen it just from moving them upstairs to downstairs, haven't we, how many have been affected?
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And, you know, worst case scenario, it it does result in people passing away from the sheer trauma and stress of it all. Mhmm. And that's something that, obviously, you, you know, you have to consider, and you have to look at, far away from their family. Sometimes it can't be helped, but you try not to. There's so much that you've got to take into consideration that it it's a re it is really daunting. It's a it's a horrible task.
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And it's seeing the families suffer as well, isn't it? Because, obviously, they're concerned,
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you know, where are their loved ones gonna go. Yes. Our, you know, our main concern and our main care and support is to the residents. But, actually, we support like you say, we support the families too.
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Yeah.
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And it is, you know, it is really difficult when you've got you know, you've got them coming in, and they're asking quest any questions, and you you can't answer. Yeah. You know, I don't know. I know as much as you. I don't know what's going on. I don't know how long this is gonna take. I don't know what the next step is. We haven't been told either. So it is it is really hard. It's really difficult. I think it is taking its toll on everybody a little bit.
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Oh, definitely.
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The the difficult thing with that, I think, is you have to go into work, and it's that age old at the door.
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That's where you leave it all. Definite and that's what I say to myself when I drive in now. Go in. Do your bit. Try and lift someone's day. That's what I'm there to do. Just make the most of it.
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Yeah. And I think that's it. And it's going in, and it's kind of putting that smile on your face. Yeah. Teeth and tits. Do you know what I mean?
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Well, you know, it's been really hard, hasn't it, the whole staff morale thing? And I will go into it briefly about the whole job situation. You know, we were all told we were gonna be redeployed, but, actually, 5 jobs are stuck up on the wall, and it's like free fight for everybody. So the you know, you can be redeployed if you're gonna go and work in the community.
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But, obviously I think this is it. I think it's really difficult, isn't it? Because I'm kind of like Switzerland. I have to be in my position. Yeah. Yeah. No. I mean, I have to be Switzerland. Do you know what I mean? And I have to look at it from sort of both sides. So, actually, there are lots of jobs, but they are community based. Mhmm. Now not everybody wants to do that. For me, personally, hats off to, domiciliary workers and things. I think they're a mate they're fantastic. I've done that. I did that for the first part of my career. I don't really want to go back to doing it again. No. Fair enough. I don't either. You know, I'm at the age where I don't want to be driving around all over the county. I don't want to be every, you know, every day. Well, you worked hard for your senior role, didn't you, when you do that job? I I and and the reason that, you know, we we do our, you you know, we do our MVQs. We progress.
We get our qualifications. It's so that we move from these positions into a position higher up. So, you know, I've you've done your time as a HCA on the floor. You've then got your qualifications. You've moved up. So you're more sort of lower management, middle management, office based, doing it from there sort of thing. You know? Yeah. And you kind of move your way up like that. And I think, you know, I worked really hard for my level 4, and it wasn't easy. It wasn't an easy task for me to get that. And I got a distinction out of it in the end, but that was a lot of hard work on my part to do that and a big push to get that done.
And I just for me, personally, I won't step back. Not so hard to step up. No. So I do think it it it is difficult because when it's in an organization like the one we're in, there aren't always the positions there to match the position that I'm you're coming from. Yeah. I I totally get that. Do do you get what I mean? Yeah. I I get what you're saying. But If there isn't a position that matches my level and my grade Yeah. There isn't gonna be a position there for me. No. And that's that's on me. There's jobs there.
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Yeah. But but like you say, why would you wanna go backwards? If anything, you wanna go forwards, don't you? I'm not. Yeah. I've said no. I'm not taking a step back in my career.
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I am like you. I do wanna be there right to the end. That's more of a personal thing, I think, for me and how who I am as a person. I just I could for me, if I left sooner, I'd feel like I was abandoning
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Mhmm.
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Those people. And I I just
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I can't see if you left, oh my god.
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You know? So and and I just think, you know, I you know, that last time when that door's shut and locked, that's when I wanna be leaving. Yeah. Yeah. It's gonna be a sad day, really sad day, for sure. Oh, I know it is. I know it is. And I think, you know, the the saddest part for me is that it's not actually the care or the home that or or the the team or anything like that that's that's that's caused this. You know, it it's the actual care that we provide is really is really high quality and really good, and the team is really good. It's just factors that are outside of our control.
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Yep.
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And, you know, there's nothing we can do about it. Nothing we can do. No. No.
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But, yeah, it's imminent.
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It is. And it is and I, you know, I do feel for everybody, guys that we sort of look after and and a part of the team, you know, trying to find a job. And I know there's jobs out there and what have you, but it's still, you know, having to go for interviews, having to get your CV up to scratch and have it. It is really daunting to have to suddenly think you've gotta do all of that again. It doesn't make in your head, you weren't expecting to do that. You were expecting to be at this place for a long time.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So, you know, and it is and I I don't know what anyone else is like, but I am absolutely shocking in interviews. My brain just completely
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goes to mush, and I just I can't remember anything. Well, it well, it's awful, isn't it? Because there's so many people who's going for the same job and you've got to sell yourself. And, you know, this past experience, you know, with my job application, I redid my CV, and there was a load of hoo with it, and it's never right till this day. And, you know, I know, like you say, you're in, Sweden, did you say? Switzerland? Swedish. I'm in Sweden. I'm on the fence. Okay. I'm on the fence. But, you know, I know your personal feelings towards this, and and I know my opinion and stuff. And As well. But I obviously, you know, in positions at the room, we've got to be very careful with We have. I've got I've got nothing to lose because I'm really not worried.
I've got nothing to lose, and I can just be honest. You know? But that was probably 2 to 3 weeks of hell for me putting together a CV and feeling very strong that out of lots of those workers that had had no previous experience, that one of those would get the job. That's like you going for the job and you not getting it with all of your qualifications.
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You know? Yeah. Yeah. And I and I get it, and I get, you know, a lot of stuff. Like, when we spoke about it Yeah. In work. You know, you can you I've you know, I completely get where you're coming from. I completely get to one of the,
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managers last week because they told me that there was a meeting on Wednesday if I wanted help with my CV and stuff. I said, no. I said, I'm done. I said, my CV was fine. I said, if anything, I don't think they even read it because they favored 9 months experience and no MVQs, over 25 years experience and MVQs and other bits and bobs. And she said, do you know what? I haven't thought about it that way. I said, well, there you are. I said, anyway, I'm here to do my job. I'm gonna crack on. It is what it is. But I ain't wasting my time going to many more interviews or giving them a CV because my face don't fit, Tracy.
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I think yeah. And I think and and this is what and that's that's what's really sad as well, like, that people are feeling that way. Yeah. Yeah. And it like and that is creating this sort of atmosphere and morale within, you know, within the team. But, you know, we've had more and more people go, and you can't begrudge anybody
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getting a job. Do you know what I mean? They've got to look at stuff.
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Yeah. And at the end of the day, you know, when it in a situation like this, when you're at risk of redundancy or and being made jobless, it it is a really selfish view that you've got to take with it, I think. Of course it is. It's each child out for their own. Yeah. And, you know, you might be bosom buddies inside and outside of work. But when it comes to applying for that job, you have got to outsell yourself above your friend. Yeah. And it it it is a bit of a cutthroat situation, and it's horrible. But, you know, that that is the way it is, unfortunately.
And, you know,
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it it is what it is, as they say. It is. And this is why I wanna step away from the matrix, though. You know? Yeah. I'm gonna push my photography business now. I'm really and I've got loads of ideas. Doing that. I think that looks really good. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Yeah. I've I had, like, a life coaching session, and it was like, wow. Wow. I'm on fire.
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And I'd love to do something like like that on my, like, on my own, but it's having the balls to do it, I think.
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But you could you could get those balls, Tracy, because you are so good with people, and you've got all the ideas and all the talent. And, you know, even I, for doing what I'm doing now and for the listeners, it's birth photography. I still quite a few times a day get these little sensations thinking, you can't do that. You can't do that. And you have to be like, no. Just horrible, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Just take that step. Take the next step.
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I wanted to write this for years. I said to Scott years well, years years ago that I'd wanna I wanna write a book. Yeah. And I wanna do it about sort of the day in the life of a carer, but it would be sort of all the little anecdotes and little stories Yeah. That were told by people and about people and because although there's there's a lot of sadness in care, there is when, obviously, people pass away and things like that. But, actually,
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there's a lot of fun. There's a lot of comedy in our home, isn't there, and then residents.
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Some of it. It's like some I spend some days just laughing. Yeah. Like, from the minute you get there to the minute you leave, just laughing.
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Well, you know you know our certain resident that likes a cigarette, called me over the other day and, they said, Shelley, I don't suppose you wanna sit on my lap for a minute, do you? Oh my god.
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I've honestly, it they're they're just so funny and hilarious. But it's, like, heartwarming funny things, and then there's just just funny funny. Like, the the gent the person you were talking about then, I remember walking into the lounge one day and it was full of sort of family members and staff. And just shouted across the room, hey, Tracy, you know who my drug dealer. I had to look at the family members like, I do not. I would just like to reiterate, I do not.
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Oh.
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He's so funny. And but he was sitting there laughing. He knows they know they've done it. This is what goes through. And it yeah. And it's just it you know, you do spend your days just laughing. Definitely. And then but, you know, it twists them roundabout, isn't it? Then you have days when it's extremely sad. Yeah. But it's all part of working in that industry. And, you know, I act I fell into care. It was an accidental sort of job for me. It was just the only job that was out there Right. At the time when I was looking. So I was like, oh, give it a go. And I kind of found my little niche, and I love it. Yeah. Looking after people,
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giving something. And I think I'll always feel like that as well. I've always done care work from Yeah. Age 18. It was my first, well, first proper job as well. And over the years, I've just mixed in and out different, places and homes and settings and stuff. But, yeah, ultimately,
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it's more than what to do. There's there's still a little stigma around care, I think, where it's like, all they do is wipe bums and give cups of tea. I wish that was all we did. I wish that was all there was to it, but it's not. There's a lot more. It's so much more complex. It's, like, emotionally, there's a lot more that we do. It's just it's one of those jobs. I think you have to do it to appreciate it and understand it.
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I think they should send all of these people that wanna be nurses and stuff. I think they should go out and do a month cares work and then make up their mind because the amount of people that apparently drop out as soon as they start in the nitty gritty, they can't face it. But, yeah, it's an eye opener. But you always try to go that step beyond as well, don't you? When you see these people regularly, you're like, what? What can I do to improve your day? How can we make We do. And it I mean, it's silly little thing. Yeah. And it's silly little things like bringing in a chocolate orange because you know that's their favorite chocolate. Do you know what I mean? So you bring
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bringing it you know, knowing that they like a certain author. So you think, oh, I'll have a look and see if any of those books are in a charity shop or whatever and grab them and or, you know, grab them. So many things out and about. I'm like, oh, get that for so and so. I'll get that. Yeah. Or you're out shopping and you see, like, in the sale, there's a skirt for a couple of quid or whatever, and you think, oh, that would really suit so and so. You know? And it's little things like that. And
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Well, you know, the the client that's going tomorrow, it's only the last couple of weeks we've really sorted out our movie day. Typically, he's going now. Yeah. And we watched the the film Gran Torino, on Tuesday. Oh, I love that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, when, like, one of them got attacked, the young girl and everything, I stood up and I said, yes. Yes. They're gonna go and get him now. And this gentleman went, calm down. And I said, are you turning me off? And he said, yeah. Calm down. I said, I'm sorry. But it was so nice because you think you just sat there watching a movie with them, but you're their company for an hour, and it's really little things, isn't it? And it's sometimes it's just
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they all they want is somebody to go in there and sit with them even if it's just in silence.
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Yeah. So I don't feel guilty when I sit in people's rooms now and we've got the TV on. No. I used to. It looks like I'm scarfing. It's that having somebody else there
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in the room next to you. It it's knowing that there's somebody present, and you're not alone. And I think that is what a lot of it is, and that's
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that's the side of it that I love the most is, you know, going and sitting and chatting with them and, you know, go to sleep. I have got the dream job, really. I it's very hard for me at the moment because, obviously, we're not getting any new residents in. And, you know, the residents that were there a year ago, sadly, lots of them aren't. And trying to do activities is is actually quite hard. And I think
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activities coordinate a job, though, in in a place like this is really hard. You've got to get people who don't engage Yeah. Yeah. To engage. And it is it's really difficult. Very difficult. And people don't are not people don't appreciate, I don't think, sometimes how hard it is to do that. And because you have to make a complete fool of yourself
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Definitely.
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To to do this. I mean, I've I've done activities myself, as you know. And, but I and I think, you know, per for me personally, I think activities are just as important, if not more so, than anything else. Oh, they are. Because somebody's mental well-being is so, so important, especially when you think of somewhere like a care home where, actually, if they didn't have this, days would just be spent. It would be like Groundhog Day continuously. Just sat in the same chair, in the same room, looking at the same walls, the same TV, the same probe. You know? It they need that individual there to take away from that. And, like, when you do your Fridays.
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I sing along with fry with Shelley on Fridays. They you their faces, they love it. I love it as well. Love
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it, and it's and they you know, it's lovely. You walk past and you just see them. They're smiling, dancing in their chair. It's lovely.
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Yeah. I do I do really enjoy it. But like I say, my new venture, it doesn't rule out going and doing a bit of singing work in the care homes, and not even necessarily for a fee, just something to give back my little bit. Just something, yeah, just something to do. Yeah. I did think that today. Shall I go in and sing them for an hour? Because I was a bit bored. I was like, come on. Stay there's loads of things to do at home. When you're at work, you wanna be at home, and then sometimes you get a little bit bored, don't you? Yeah. I'd I'd do that if I'm on annual leave.
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Pop in. I'll be like, oh, thank god I'm on annual leave, then it'll get to, like, the 3rd day, and you'll be like, ugh. I wonder what they're doing. Should I just pop in? I used to always say that. I'm sad of people, but I see it differently now. I think a lot of that, though, is the, like, the fear of missing out or FOMO or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Such a concern. Missing? What's going on?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Wow. But I do think, you know, like we've said previously, the these last few months, I think we just need to make them as good as we can and as fun as we can.
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Well, I'm total in total agreement there. Yeah. We know the end is near.
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We've got the singer coming in for Halloween. We're gonna, you know, we'll decorate for that. We'll do get the staff that are there to do pumpkin. We'll have a little pumpkin carving competition or something. Yep. Yep. Lots of stuff. There's stuff we can do just to make it nice, fun, and just relax for staff and residents, to be honest. You know? Yeah. Yeah. I think we all need a little bit of
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Oh, definitely. The last festival we had, it was brilliant, wasn't it? It was lovely. So good. You you did such an amazing job.
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Yeah. That was so good. Yeah.
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More of it. And you're you're really good at organizing things like that. You're like, here's a day. Here's a time. Shelley, can you see if they're free and posters up? Yeah. Shelley, you do it. No. But you you do the itty gritty bits, all the, like, little mocktails and things. I'll just phone the singer and stuff. You know? But a bit of teamwork, but, no, you are very good at things like that. So, yeah, looking forward to the next one, which is next Saturday, isn't it? It is next Saturday. Yeah. And I've already booked in with some, one of the local schools. They're gonna come in and sing carols.
Oh, definitely. We you know, we'll make the most of Christmas as well. Because that's the thing, though, isn't it? Part of you thinks, well, well, actually, if we're closed by Christmas,
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you can't And this is it. And this is where I say, like, we're all in sort of limbo. It's a case of obviously, we're we're open up until blah, blah, blah, where wherever it is, wherever it was, mark where March was, something like that. End of March. But Yeah. If things were to progress quicker and beds were found sooner, then we would shut sooner. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, we are all pretty much, like, well, you know, what when is it? What how long have we got? What's happening?
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Living on the edge.
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It is, and it is. And I do like I say, I think my issue is I've been plodding along, kind of head in the cloud, thinking, well, nothing's happening. So, you know, we're fine. And then, actually, it's starting to hit me now that stuff is happening. And
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Well, let's hope when this meeting comes, they'll give us a day, and they'll let us know. I mean, I think they have to make some sort of clause that it's got to you know, you'll get paid to this day. Otherwise, everyone's just gonna go. And then for you, I would say, well, that last month, then you say, right. I'll start looking now.
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You know? Yeah. And I think that's it. I said to Scott, I wanna I want to stay to the end. That's my Yeah. My aim. So if I was to sort of look anywhere and get offered anything else, I would say, look. I'm not being funny, but my notice period would be up, you know, up to March. So Yeah. Good on you. Good on you. Right, my lovely. We've come to the end.
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Flies by as always. Thank you so much for that chat. That's alright. It wasn't great. We didn't really talk about much, did we? We did. It's an important subject. We're you know, care home is closing, and we're part of that. So I'm a mess. I'm hormonal, perimenopausal. Me too.
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Losing my job.
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Oh, stop being so miserable. Right. Blooding, and I'm just like, oh, god. God. Sorry. Music's coming on. Yeah. Right. Take care of yourself, Tracy. You too. Thank you, lovely. See you soon. See you soon, guy. Bye. Bye bye. And we will be back same time, same place, next Sunday at 7 o'clock. Hope you have an awesome week guys. Take care for now.