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A sneaky chat with Jo at work ....


Good evening, everyone! Welcome to another episode of Women's Hour with your host, Shelley Tasker, streaming live from radiosoapbox.com and Rumble. In this episode, we dive into a lively conversation with Captain Jo, who joins us from her workplace. We discuss everything from Jo's new flying challenge to her successful attempt at doing Shelley's hair, which has garnered many compliments. The conversation takes a humorous turn as they joke about Jo's confidence in flying a plane and the potential dangers of helicopters.

We also touch on the intriguing topic of artificial intelligence and its uncanny ability to target ads based on our conversations. Shelley shares her thoughts on the mysterious world of AI and its potential to read our minds. The discussion then shifts to the bizarre and sometimes confusing world of modern identity, with anecdotes about people identifying as cats and the complexities of pronouns.

In the second half of the show, Shelley opens up about her journey with mental health and depression, exploring alternative treatments like microdosing with psilocybin mushrooms. She shares her experiences and the challenges of finding reliable sources for these treatments. Shelley also reflects on her various career options, from birth photography to singing for care home residents, and the importance of following one's passions.

Join us for an episode filled with laughter, deep conversations, and a touch of the unexpected. Don't miss out on Shelley's insights and the exciting plans she has for the future.

[00:01:01] Unknown:

Good evening, ladies.   And you're gentlemen out there listening. Welcome to women's show, women's show, women's hour. I am your host, Shelley Tasker, and I'm streaming streaming live from radiosoapbox.com.   Also, going out on Rumble. So if you'd like to join in with any conversation   or the live chat, please do so.   Today's date is Sunday,   18th August.   So here we are, another week,   and we're gonna go straight back into our conversation with a sneaky conversation with Jo at work.   So she is waiting,   and she is at work.   Let's get her on the line, and let's have a chat.  

I should be organized, and I should be   ready.   Good evening, captain Jo.  

[00:01:59] Unknown:

Hello?  

[00:02:00] Unknown:

How are you?   Can you hear me?   Can you hear me? I can hear you. Can you hear me?   I can. Good. How are you this evening, captain Jo?  

[00:02:18] Unknown:

I'm I'm very well. I'm very well. I've taken on another challenge, so, you know,   wish me luck.  

[00:02:27] Unknown:

Is that to do with the flying?  

[00:02:29] Unknown:

It it listen. You know I don't need to have lessons in flying. I can just jump into the cockpit and land it. No problem. Have you told your listeners? No. Not yet. I'm just just going to get onto it. For those of you listening last week, you know that  

[00:02:45] Unknown:

I was going to be very brave and let Jo do my hair.   I've got to ask you before this,   did you have just   an ounce of worry thinking, oh my god. What if I cock this up?   Because you acted very brave, and you didn't show it, but now it's all done, and everything's fine, and she did an amazing   job.   Did you have any worries?   No.  

[00:03:09] Unknown:

I know I could do it, but you kept making me really nervous. And you know when   you know when you know that you can do something, but somebody's   making you nervous, they've got concerns,   then you start   having doubt about your abilities. And I'm like,  

[00:03:29] Unknown:

you know, no. No. There there was no need, was there? There there I can fly a goddamn plane. Well, this is this is what we've discovered. It gave you that boost, and you were doing it. You were impressed, and you said I could fly a goddamn plane if I wanted to.  

[00:03:45] Unknown:

I damn well could.  

[00:03:47] Unknown:

I'm not sure if I'd wanna get in there with you, but, actually, I reckon you could. You do if you set your mind to something, you know, you just have to watch a few videos, don't you?  

[00:03:57] Unknown:

Well, yeah, I don't I don't plan on watching any because, you know, god forbid that I'm ever in that position.   But   if I am,   I will be the 1st jumping into the hot seat going, this is your captain speaking,   fasten your seat belts,   brace, brace,   and down we go   with a perfect landing.  

[00:04:22] Unknown:

Right. Do you think you should start in a helicopter first?  

[00:04:25] Unknown:

Or you're gonna No. Apparently, they're more dangerous. Apparently, you can't control those as much as you can in an airplane. So,   yeah, you know, may may maybe I'll maybe I'll just practice   in, you know, a Boeing   737 or something.  

[00:04:41] Unknown:

Start off small. Okay. Okay. Fair enough.   Well, I've got to say, Jo, I have had so many compliments about my hair this week, and it is blonder than usual. Yes. So many people are like, you've gone blonder, Shelley, and wow. And I'm like, my friend did it.   My friend did it. She saved me a fortune,   but you, naughty woman you, don't think I didn't notice that money that you put back in my purse.   Now I'm not being funny. Yeah. Well, you It's a friendship thing. I know we do favours for each other, but when you, like, spend a half an hour drive coming to my house and you spend, like, 3 hours every day, yes, I get I pay for products and stuff, but your time and my appreciation to give you a bit extra for your fuel,   I don't think that's   wrong.  

I wonder what other people think think because friendships, I think, it's a funny thing when people do things for you. And I know you do it from, like, the love of your heart, and you didn't want me looking minging anymore,   but you should've taken the money.  

[00:05:43] Unknown:

Well,   I I see where you're coming from. However,   let's not forget   we were at the beach the day previous, and you bought me a pasty. So Oh, wow. I know a pasty doesn't,   yeah, I know a pasty doesn't   equate   to what you were trying to give me   in payment,   but we're quits. I'm sure if I need something, you'll be the first to offer.  

[00:06:11] Unknown:

Okay. Well, I was thinking we could do, like, a bit of a trade. I could do you a photo shoot or something   in your captain's outfit.  

[00:06:20] Unknown:

Oh, don't have oh my god. Yes. Yes. We should. Yeah. We should.  

[00:06:25] Unknown:

Okay. Great. That will be pain when you get to work. To have. I I wanna be in a captain's  

[00:06:31] Unknown:

outfit, but I want it to have, like, a   Britney Spears   esque to it. Do you know the one that I mean? You know, when she's in the plane and,   I I'm not a Britney Spears fan. Let me just state that for the record. But there's one song   I don't even know, you know,   this should be live radio because the radio callers could call in or It is live. Tell me what It  

[00:06:56] Unknown:

It is live. But I was we are waiting for that phone in button to appear. But if anybody wanted to, I am on Skype, just type in Shelley Tasker,   and, you know, feel free to join the group.   We'll get there in a few weeks.  

[00:07:12] Unknown:

Like I said, I'm not a Britney Spears fan, but there's one song where she's in the airplane dressed in an air hostess   outfit.   And, like,   god, you know, I'm tone deaf, but   the chorus is like,   Something tops it. I do recognize it. Anyway,   yes.   I am gonna be dressed in a pilot's outfit, and you're gonna take pictures of me. That sounds wonderful.  

[00:07:38] Unknown:

There is something about, I think, when you're at the airport   and you see all the ladies dressed up, the flight attendants, and the captain walk through, and I always think they all look so goddamn gorgeous.   There's just an element of envy, and it's the uniform.  

[00:07:54] Unknown:

I mean, you can look like a manta,   but with the uniform   with the uniform, the hair, the makeup,   the nails, you know, the shoes,   it doesn't matter. You still got it going on. Absolutely. And they are the  

[00:08:09] Unknown:

Absolutely. And they are the first people actually I look look to when I'm on a flight. If there's a bit of turbulence, I'm looking at their faces to check if they're worried or not to see how calm they are. Yeah.   I mean,  

[00:08:23] Unknown:

I've only ever been in   well, I've been in many airplanes, naturally, because I fly them in my journeys,   but   there was one flight that I took, and   we were so far north, actually, this is a twofold story. So we were so far north,   I was really fortunate to see the northern lights. Wow. But the funny thing is I was sitting next to some weird and wonderful guy that was into aliens, so we had been talking about that, and he said, oh, can I just, you know, ask you to get up because I need to go to the bathroom, so I moved?   Anyway, at that given moment,   I look out the window, and I start seeing these lights, and I had no idea what they were, and I had that sheer moment of panic, where I'm, like you said, I'm looking around for the air hostess going, oh my god. Oh my god. It's a UFO.  

And at that point,   the captain came across the, Tannoy and said, oh, and if you look out to the left, you can see that all the lights   And the second time I looked for an air hostess, like you said, to gauge whether they were scared,   was, again, I was coming back from somewhere,   hit some really bad turbulence,   but to the point   where I don't know how many feet that airplane   fell,   but everybody's   backside left the seats. We literally, like, just fell  

[00:09:54] Unknown:

5,000 feet Like an air drop. I've I've experienced that before. And your stomach just drops, doesn't it? Yeah. And it was really violent.  

[00:10:03] Unknown:

Really, really violent. And, you know, I was like, well, that wouldn't have happened if I was flying, but, you know, we we can't be perfect. Had it under control.  

[00:10:13] Unknown:

I'm not a keen flyer, and whenever I fly,   I do like to pop a few tablets and possibly have a glass or 2 of wine. Basically, I want to be unconscious.   Really? Yeah. I mean, once I've taken those tablets I mean, one time, I could have been on the wing of that plane. I was so relaxed,   but I went to Sweden once. Bear in mind, it was only a 45 minute flight, but I was so worried about the flight that I took the medication   10 minutes before we got on the plane,   and it was really strong stuff.   It didn't work   until we landed at our destination,   and   every time we sat down in a car or a waiting room or a taxi, I fell asleep.  

And I was like, that felt like nearly the whole trip. It was only 3 days, but it was that strong.  

[00:11:04] Unknown:

So it didn't What happened what happened, Shelley? Like, you know, you've taken this medication. You're on the flight. It starts to go down, and nobody can wake you. And even if they did, you haven't got cat in house chance of finding the exit because you'll be so out of it.  

[00:11:22] Unknown:

Yeah. But I wouldn't be scared.   I'd be like, I'm just flying with this plane. Oh my god. I am You'll be going where's Joan? Yes.   Well, I am part of the plane at that point, you know, routine. Yeah.   Yeah. Not the flyer.  

[00:11:38] Unknown:

No. I don't mind it. I mean, I get really bored   very easily,   so I can do   6, 7 hours   quite easily, but then after that, I'm like   cabin fever, where I'm I'm sort of having these scenarios in my head, seeing myself   run up the gangway,   making a beeline for the door to try and open it, and I'm going, oh my god. Just stop thinking this, Joe. Stop it. Stop it. Yeah. So   I now try to as you know, I did a long haul flight   beginning of the year,   but I try and break it up so I don't fly direct anymore,   which is easier.  

[00:12:23] Unknown:

Easier? Wow. I'd rather just get there in one fell swoop.  

[00:12:27] Unknown:

No. Because, like,   you know,   my long haul was like 12, 13 hours long, and I'm like, oh, no. Oh, no. I can't. I can't do it. I can't do it.   But then saying that,   the last like I said, the one I did at the beginning of this year, that, as you know, that did not go according to plan,   and that wasn't direct. So maybe the universe is trying to tell me something.  

[00:12:53] Unknown:

I'm sure you could figure it out with your mind. You could split the you know, you are, like, one of the most organized persons I know. You could split that flight into, like, 3 hour segments. You know, you're gonna watch a movie, the first part. Gonna read a book, the second part.   But, ultimately, as well, I suppose it's who you sat with, isn't it? Yes. You know, you sat next to a guy talking about aliens and UFOs. How great.  

[00:13:18] Unknown:

Well, I mean, yeah, it is now. Now I'm older. This was probably about,   well, a good 30 years ago,   you know, when I was not educated.   And I just thought, oh my god, this guy is a nutter. He's making stories up. But, of course, you know, time goes on, and we get more wise, and we know that's not true.   But,   I mean, nowadays,   I just wanna get on that plane, and I just wanna be the only one on it. People just annoy me because you're sitting so close to them. You know? And when I book flights, I really   study   the whole aircraft and where the seats are,   what's behind me, how much leg room I'm gonna have if I get that configuration.  

Oh, yeah. It's not a straightforward thing for me.  

[00:14:08] Unknown:

No. Well, I've watched quite a few of these, like, flight,   stimulation   videos. Piran's really into watching plane crashes.   Oh my goodness. I know. I know.   Like, he uses a like, an inhaler.   I can't remember the exact name for it, but they produce produce steam and stuff   and makes it all smoky, that effect, and stuff like that.   It looked to me that if you were to sit in the middle of the plane, that's your safest bet.   The front seemed very dangerous on the back. I might be wrong, but I'll need to look into this.  

[00:14:43] Unknown:

Well,   you know, yeah, maybe, but, hey, you're flying in a an aluminum  

[00:14:49] Unknown:

tube. So is there any of it safe? I don't know. Well, if you're gonna hit news first at the front, you're like, bugger, aren't you? If you're at the back and the end blows off like in these movies,   you're bound to, like, blow out of it, be pulled out. So if you're in the middle, I would just presume I mean, you know, I'm no expert, but watching those few videos. Well, I don't know. I don't know. I used to have,  

[00:15:12] Unknown:

I mean, I still do. She's still with us.   Her and her husband, whenever they used to fly, they used to fly to the Caribbean a lot.   And, they used to fly with smoke hoods,   that if the plane because   statistically,   nowadays,   you're more likely to survive   the actual crash.   It's the smoke, and it's the chemicals   from the fumes that will kill you off. So they used to travel with smoke hoods in their carry on,   and they're like   they're like the size of, like,   a Coca Cola   can. Right. And you just, like, pop the lid off this thing, and and out it pops. So, you know,   there's always that that you could buy and travel with, Shelley.  



[00:16:03] Unknown:

That, along with my pills   and my wine.  

[00:16:08] Unknown:

Yeah. And then you'll get somebody like me sitting next to you that actually thinks I'm sitting next to an alien.  

[00:16:16] Unknown:

What do you think? Are they out there? Do aliens exist?  

[00:16:24] Unknown:

I don't know.   I I I really struggle to believe that there's anything else out there, and the caveat to that is   I'm well aware that is   my programming.   And I'm not proud of that, but,   you know, that's my programming, that   we live on the world and it's just us and there's absolutely nobody else because we're superior.   And that's what you were basically taught at school. You weren't   really taught about the universe or any other planets. You knew that there was the moon and the sun and Pluto and all the rest of it,   but you never questioned whether there was life on any other planet.  

So, yeah, I think Oh, I did. With it. Not you know, not even after watching ET.   No.   No. I was watching I I I didn't think ET was that good. I found it quite annoying.  

[00:17:26] Unknown:

That was the first movie I watched when I cried, and it was Christmas day. I must have been about 7 or 8, and my brother started laughing at me, and my dad told him off.   But as I got older and I started watching things like The X Files,   I was like my mind was really opened,   and I do believe that there are aliens out there. And I went through a phase probably when I was about 19.   Honest to God, I'm really bad about anxiety   about being by myself and being abducted by aliens   because I was looking into it too much, and my brain obviously couldn't handle it. And one evening, I had to have my mum   come spend the evening with me because my husband was out,   and I was so scared.  



[00:18:10] Unknown:

Oh my goodness. But, you know, like I said, it's I just struggle with it. I'm educated enough to know,   you know, we are not the only species in this universe.   But I just   I just I, you know, I really just don't know. I really don't know.   Of course, you know, what's gonna happen now is I'll be flying my plane and, of course, a UFO will pull up next to me, won't it? So that put me straight.  

[00:18:38] Unknown:

Well, talking about artificial   intelligence, after last week's show,   we talked about our dress and gowns, and we talked about your spare everything and your spare hoover,   and and then literally when the show ended, I went on to Facebook,   and all the adverts were for Dysons.  

[00:18:57] Unknown:

Yep.   Crazy.   Crazy. So I wonder what they've come up with this time. Maybe planes, maybe holidays.  

[00:19:05] Unknown:

Yeah. I'm gonna watch out for it, but I'm seeing lots of similar things that people were saying now that they're not even   typing anything or saying anything. They're just literally thinking things   Yeah. While they're coming out on the screens.  

[00:19:19] Unknown:

Yeah. I mean,   there is a theory, and I run the risk of sounding like a conspiracy   theorist.   But there is a theory that we are already, for one of the better word, chipped. You know, we already have the nanoparticles   or whatever you wanna call it actually in us   from a food source and from, you know, whatever liquid you may be   partial to. So   there's either that theory or   the woo woo theory, and I say that with all respect because we all know I love my jiggery pokery.   And   people   say,   you know, age of Aquarius,   we have kind of   elevated ourselves onto a different vibration, and therefore, we're more connected   nutters that rule this world to tap into.  



[00:20:17] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. And it's just the fact that computers   are just so well wired as well. You know? Is it as much we're tapping into them or they're tapping into us?  

[00:20:28] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. It's it's almost like the chicken and egg situation, ain't it? What came first?  

[00:20:33] Unknown:

Well, it is, and it's crazy because when I do my show notes at the end,   Maleficus, who does the other show with me, he's like, I'm not using AI,   and I'm like, you're mad because my show notes, when they're written up, they're amazing. They're words that I wouldn't use or come up with. It's like a really, really well educated   person who's, yeah, well versed.   The only thing that it seems to get wrong is the spelling of people's names.   Oh.   So when I upload that show, which literally takes 2 minutes,   it then does an AI analysis on it,   and boom, there's your show. So  

[00:21:11] Unknown:

just from information, I don't know. It's crazy. It's crazy. Well, you know, then that leads into AI is definitely listening if they're doing the show notes. And every time I hear that word or say that, I wanna do jazz hands, like, showtime.   They're definitely listening, aren't they? Because they're right in the notes, so   the proof is in the pudding as in last week. It was Dyson Hoover's, so   god bless them.   What is old Robert the robot gonna come up with this this day today? I know. Who knows? Well, actually, for the second  

[00:21:48] Unknown:

part of the show, I know you're not gonna be with us because you are at work, believe it or not. I am at work.  

[00:21:54] Unknown:

I I've been really busy today.   God bless the delinquents. They've given me the runaround, but, yeah, I'm   I'm just crossing my fingers for the next half hour. All keeps quiet.  

[00:22:07] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, I I was thinking because I am guestless. Well, I'm not because I've got you, and I can handle half an hour talking about   stuff, making sure the airwaves aren't dead.   And, you know, if I'm too boring people, I've got every right to scroll on by and turn off, but I actually dug out a book earlier, and I thought I would read a part of it, not a part of the whole book. I got a book probably about 6 years ago   ago called 21 Lessons for the 21st Century,   and it's I've only read about 5 chapters of it, and now I've got my bookshelf up and all my books bought down. I do remember that. I know. It's lovely. I can remember   reading a chapter about, at some point, that we could literally tap ourselves into a computer just to see, like, if we're a bit confused about, like, our sexuality.  

We could just plug in,   and that will tell us what we are.  

[00:22:59] Unknown:

Well, you're you're kind of chancing it, really, aren't you? Because   what happens if you've lived all of these years as a woman, and then the computer tells you, well, no. Actually,   actually, your chromosomes   are   x y,   but you've just been masquerading   as a woman with x x.  

[00:23:20] Unknown:

Well, I hadn't thought that far ahead. I just thought at the time of reading it 5 years ago, and that was before all of this   transgender and everybody was identifying as cats things. I mean, actually, it'd be interesting.   I don't think it says anything about, you know, what you could identify as, but perhaps they'll bring out a program that will see if actually you are indeed a cat.  

[00:23:40] Unknown:

I want a badge. You know that you see, like, these   I call them rainbow warriors. I say that with respect if anybody's listening.   But I do actually have to say, I don't know why you need   to announce it, like, you've walked into the room, and you're   you're this, that, and the other. Just   just bloody be normal like the rest of us. Anyway, moving on.   I want one of those badges that the rainbow warriors wear, like, you know, their pronouns, like   he,   him, or she, her.   I want one like   her or cat.   Purr and cat. That's what I want. I want one of those badges.  

[00:24:25] Unknown:

Well, I've only seen that a couple of times,   and it was earlier this year, actually. I took a client to the opticians,   and there was a guy.   I can't remember his name,   and it it was quite a strange name, actually,   but underneath it, it said pronouns,   they, them.   And I just thought,   this is just crazy. Oh, that's it. He was called Eden, and he was quite an attractive looking guy as well.   But why would you need   to announce that? I mean, I don't I wouldn't wear a name badge that says Shelly,   woman,   mother.  

[00:25:01] Unknown:

It's like you've got to list everything nowadays, haven't you? Because God forbid somebody looks at you and goes,   you're not looking very womanly today. What are you?  

[00:25:12] Unknown:

I mean, it the world's gone mad, Shelley. It's gone mad. I know. And I met a 17 year old girl that I worked with for probably 2 or 3 years ago, and she had one of these outrageous names, indigo or something like that. And she was lovely, And she came in and introduced herself, and I thought she was a lot because she was so mature as well, the way she's speak speaking and everything, and she said, hi. I'm Indigo.   My pronouns   are theythem.   Stop.   Yeah. No.   Excuse me. And,   I was gobsmacked. No one has ever   introduced themselves like that to me before.  



[00:25:47] Unknown:

You see, that would make me be,   for want of a better word, that would make me behave really belligerently   towards them. You know, if if I wanted to call for them, you know, say if I'm in the kitchen and I need them to I'm going, they. They.   And then when people go, what? Why are you shouting they?   Well, that person introduced themselves as  

[00:26:10] Unknown:

they them. They them. They them. Come here. You know, it's like, how many body names do you want, love? I know. And it's confusing because, like, the resident that I was with, he's got, like, learning difficulties. Difficulties. He said, can you call him over to see how much longer we're gonna be?   And I said,   I don't know if I call him or her over. Do you know what I mean?   I can call they over,   but it was craziness. And when I was telling people about it, they were just like,   crazy world.  

[00:26:41] Unknown:

It it it is a crazy world. Listen. Be what you wanna be. You know? As long as you're not hurting anybody   or committing a crime, be what you wanna be. But do we really have to wear a badge to tell everybody?   You know? It's like  

[00:26:56] Unknown:

it's almost like an attention thing, isn't it? I think it is. Yeah. I want to be different.  

[00:27:02] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Be who you wanna be and get on with it, you know? And in actual fact, I saw   one of our mutual friends   on Facebook that was talking about,   you know,   every year there's gay pride   or, you know,   LGBQRSP,   whatever whatever the letters are. Right?   He says, why can't we have every year,   like, a straight pride where families come out and children,   and we celebrate just being straight because you never hear a straight person walk into the room and go,   hello. My name's Jo. You may call me Jo, and my pronouns   are   woman,   mother,   female,   Jo. You know? I mean   yeah. I I think we should I think that should be our next sort of  

[00:28:00] Unknown:

task. Of these titles,   I was reading in a newspaper this week, actually, that those that   are avid fox hunters and believe in it, they want to be known as a minority   as part of the whole   LBQ thing.   Yeah.  

[00:28:16] Unknown:

Yeah. Just So, yeah, just to be, yeah, a minority.   Yeah. I mean,   you know when you've got so much to say about something, but you just haven't because you're just so flabbergasted   by it all. That that's how I feel about that that topic. It's just like   I I just, you know  

[00:28:37] Unknown:

Well, at a local school, not local, actually. Well, in your area where you live, I know that there are 2 students there that identify   as cats.   Stop now. No. And they have a litter tray in the bathroom. You've got to be kidding me. No. I'm not. I don't know if they use it, but they, like, pin tails on themselves and draw whiskers and wear, like, little fluffy pretend ears.  

[00:29:01] Unknown:

I tell you what. If I was in that job position, I'd make them use that litter tray. You wanna be a cat, my love. Carry on. And I'm gonna wrap your nose in it.  

[00:29:14] Unknown:

Well, somebody had told me this. His daughter used to go to this school, you see, anyway. She's home educated now. I mean, god, I don't want my child going to secondary school and then coming home one day and thinking he's gonna be a cat.   You know?  

[00:29:26] Unknown:

And this is the other thing, isn't it? Okay. Like, we've just established,   be what you wanna be or who you wanna be.   And everybody seems to be   pushed into   having to accept that. Oh, don't say anything because you'll upset them. Well, what about my little boy Johnny going to school, having to sit next to Rihanna, who's now decided she wants to be a cat? Do you not think do you not do you not think   that we should be worried about my son? Do you know what I mean? He's gonna come out being confused.   But we don't we don't give any,   you know,   any attention or any credit   to   anybody else that's gotta share that same space with them and, you   know, be nice to them. Don't look at them twice. She'll upset them.  

You know, they're making  

[00:30:21] Unknown:

they're making other people pander to them. They are. And there was one other girl in this same school,   that got told to take her bracelet off. Okay? And I just random. It's a piece of jewelry. So then, like, her the hat said that what she should have said was I identified as a jewelry pox.  

[00:30:40] Unknown:

Yeah. And do you know what? You would have got away with it. Yeah. Probably. You would have but this is how mad the world's going. I was listening to a podcast earlier,   and,   the guy was saying, oh, you know, very, very recently in the last month, he had to go into London for a business meeting, and he was on The Tube. And, you know, as you do, you sort of sit there and you read all the sort of, you know, the signs and the notices that they pull up. And one said,   you can now report   people for staring   at you   for too long   as a   sexual harassment  

[00:31:20] Unknown:

crime. Oh my goodness. Well, nothing surprises me. Nothing.  

[00:31:24] Unknown:

Uh-huh. You know, and I'm just like,   but that's what everybody does on the tube,   you know, because you're always   patting like sardines,   and you kind of just keep looking around the carriage, don't you? And it's inevitable that that   somebody's gonna be doing the same thing as you exactly the same time, and you catch each other's eye. And what happens if you linger, like, a split   second too long? Are they   then gonna rush to the police station and report you?  

[00:31:55] Unknown:

Yeah. Take a quick photo of you as well. It could go on, couldn't it? And then you could say, well, you violated my privacy. You've taken a photo, wasn't it? So, you know, if you get a call in the middle of the night from an unknown number saying  

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you need to come and bail me out, you better answer it because I've been staring at someone too long.  

[00:32:15] Unknown:

Well, do you know, well, I won't keep you much longer because I know you've gotta go. I can remember years ago walking in St. Ives   with Pyron and   whoever, and there was this woman and somebody else walking towards me.   She must have been really attractive   and had something about her, and I do too. We all get drawn to looking at things, don't we, for whatever reason.   And when she walked past me, she said, what the bleep are you staring at? No way. Yeah. And I was like, oh my god. Was I staring? I didn't even realize   that I was.  

Yeah. It's a funny old thing funny old thing. It is. Anyway, I better let you go because you're at work. Yeah. Yeah. I've,  

[00:32:57] Unknown:

I'll come out of the broom cupboard now.  

[00:33:02] Unknown:

Well, thank you for your chat, Jo, and we will catch up next week. I know we'll catch up in the week, but, I look forward to a sneaky chat with you again next week.  

[00:33:11] Unknown:

Yes. Indeed. I'll speak to you then. Take care, my lovely. See you later. Bye bye. You. Bye. Bye bye.  

[00:33:19] Unknown:

So this is going to be a regular thing with me and Jo because I might have said to you the other week that I'm shaking things up a bit. I'm shaking things up a bit everywhere because my life is just changing at the moment,   all for the good. I've got ideas coming in left, right, and centre. I'm gonna have to start journaling because I just I don't know where to start. I've got so many ideas,   but I feel like I'm kind of finding   myself. And I think, actually, doing this radio show   and having a bit of time for me to speak with you guys.   I mean, a year ago, when I did my first   show and my guest after 20 minutes,   my guest, we had to cut it short because the interference was just horrendous. You couldn't hear anything.  

So I had to then talk for about 35 minutes.   Otherwise, there'd be dead air, and I wasn't prepared back then. Now I'm, you know, a year on, I'm much more professional, and I've got songs lined up and TED Talks and things like that, so I can feel the airspace.   But on that particular night, I talked about my birth.   I mean, how cringey for so many people out there, especially because it wasn't a women's show anyway, but I didn't know what to talk about.   And they always say, what subjects could you talk about passionately   for for a good hour or so like that? Well, I had a wonderful bath, and this is women's hour, so perhaps I will talk to you about it another week.  

And it's not gross. It's amazing.   But, anyway, like I said, that was a year ago when I did it. And afterwards, I mean, I filled the airspace, but I deleted the show. I didn't want it going anywhere.   I just babbled like I'm babbling now, really.   But we're gonna have a song, and then I'm gonna let you know what's been going on in my life,   some educational things. Like I said, I'm on a kind of a journey,   and,   I hope you enjoy this song.   I'm loving all of these old vintage songs, and, of course, we don't need copyright to pray them to pray them, to play them.   So this one is called a little bird told me.  

So if it's gonna play   come on, music.   Music.   Keep pressing the buttons.   Sorry about this. This is live.   As you know, perhaps we're not gonna listen to this song.   Hello. There's nothing worse. I was organized. It's on my desktop.   It just doesn't want to play.   Okay. Perhaps we're not gonna play that song.   Let's find another song.   MP 3 is downloaded.   Right.  

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This land is your land, and this land is my land.   From the California   to the New York Island,   from the Redwood Forest,   to the Gulf Stream waters.   This land was made for you and me.   As I went walking   that ribbon of highway,   I saw above me   that endless   skyway.   Saw below me   that golden valley.   This land was made for you and me.   I roamed and rambled,   and I followed my footsteps   to the sparkling   sands of her diamond   deserts.   All around me,   a voice was sounding.   This land was made for you and me.   When the sun comes shining,   then I was strolling.  

And the wheat fields waving,   and the dust clouds rolling.   The voice was chanting   and the fog was lifting.   This land was made for you and me.   This land is your land, and this land is my land.   From California   to the New York Island,   from Redwood Forest,   to Gulfstream   Waters,   this land was made for you and me.   When the sun comes shining,   then I was strolling.   And the wheat fields waving,   and the dust clouds rolling.   The voice coming chanting,   and the fog was lifting.   This land was made for you and me.  

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Now I wonder if you've heard that one before. That was Woody Guthrie, This Land is Your Land.   I've been collecting   songs, all like vintage y types and stuff like that.   And, you know, if I could live in those times,   what era would that have been? 19 forties.   Not that I would have particularly wanted to be around in the war, but the music back then, I mean, nothing beats it, I don't think. I hear a few a few good songs come on the radio now and then new stuff, but not anything.   Not like real music.   I found some absolutely great stuff, but maybe I was alive in those times, and that's why I like it. I've reincarnated, and,   I've got memories.  

Anyway,   back to my story. So if you listen to the Shelley Tasker   show, this Wednesday gone, I did a whole hour   by myself to Elijah. I came in for the last 5 minutes.   But I was explaining my journey about mental health and depression,   and I've suffered with this for nearly 30 years on and off. And I've had quite a low patch.   I'm on the up. And the thing is with people with depression,   it's it's a illness that you can't see.   And for many of those, it's such a struggle, such a struggle. And I know so many people that suffer with mental health problems.   So   even though I take medication for it,   they don't work. They don't work. They probably stopped me from, like, tipping over the edge. I did come off the,   antidepressants.  

I totally   cut back, like, 1 a month until I was totally 3, and I managed it a year. But towards the end of that year, I was like a loose cannon. I mean, I was crying over everything,   and it got to the point I thought, you know, if I'm still feeling like this in a week or 2, I've got to go back on them because I need to be a mum to my children. And when I'm like this, I'm not fit for purpose for anything, really. I just wanna cry   and lie in a heap and do nothing.   So I've been learning. I've been down lots of rabbit holes, so to speak, looking into mushrooms,   and   lo and behold, mushrooms have been everywhere I go, I'm seeing a mushroom. I was out a couple of days ago, and there's a lady with a mushroom tattooed on her ankle.  

We've recently had a new lawn that my lovely Darren put down, and,   mushrooms sprouted up overnight. So I was taking photos of them and putting them on Facebook, and anybody tell me what these are, and I can't believe how many types of mushrooms there are out there.   So it took me on a circle. I watched a movie documentary on Netflix called Fantastic Fungi,   and it was just mind blowing. I don't think it's on Netflix anymore, but it   I urge you to watch it.   The the graphics as well, all absolutely amazing, and I've been building up to, like, the whole sourdough natural food, fermented food, and then, of course, we come to fungi.   So I've   extensively been looking into this. How can I get,   psilocybin? Because it's the psilocybin mushrooms, the magic ones that have got the stuff that is supposed to   relieve anxiety, relieve depression,   and rewire the neurons in your brain to make you   have a more positive mindset   and have motivation.  

Just rewire your brain, basically.   But not to take them   for a trip,   you microdose.   And it is literally what it says, microdose. I mean, I think you would have to take it like about 25 to 30 grams of mushrooms in one go   to, you know, to hallucinate and trip.   And people do believe that if you was to take a couple of well, if you was to do this a couple of times, it would aid massively   healing the hallucinogenics.   People believe that because they're plant based as well that it's spiritual. It can be an eye opener, and you can see things. Now with microdosing,   it's not 0.2 milligram,   the psilocybin in them. So it's nothing. It's just in the form of a capsule,   and, well, you take it every other day.  

So I'm on this journey, and I've also got lion's mane that's supposed to aid with,   concentration and stuff.   So I went on a bit of a journey trying to find somebody that might,   do microdosing,   really. Of course, it's not legal.   I went on lots of search engines in groups and very discreetly. I mean, I went through all these threads,   and they would land me on different pages.   Somebody suggested a guy on Instagram,   I   went on this guy's page, and I don't really use Instagram, and I gave him a follow,   and he messaged straight back.   I thought at first maybe it's just an automated message. Hello. How are you? Where are you from? And I said blah blah blah, And then his message was, do you want to meditate,   trip, or heal?  

I was like, wow. What a what a question.   So I said, well, I'm looking at really for medicinal   benefits.   So he went on a little bit, and, his English wasn't   great. He was, like, missing words out and stuff. And   we we got down to the nitty gritty, and I said, what sort of money are we looking at for this?   And he said it would cost me a £100   for 30 capsules or a £165 for 60.   Or a £165   for 60.   And I was like, woah. Woah. Woah. Woah.   You know, I'm I'm only researching this. Hadn't even thought   how much this might cost, but   I said this to him. I said, I'll leave it for now. You know, I'm still researching.  

And then he came straight back at me, and he said, I'll tell you what. I do 30 capsules for £50.   And I don't like it when people do that because it's like, oh, well, £50   is better than nothing. You're still obviously making a good profit on it. But I just said, oh, leave it with me, and, you know, I'll get back to you. Obviously, I'm not going to. Because you also want this you you want instructions and things like that. You want to be able to talk to somebody and get a bit of advice. And and there are people out there. Obviously, I'm not gonna advertise it, but if you're interested in this sort of thing, the info information   is out there, and there's so much knowledge and research that has   gone into mushrooms.  

Anyway, I did make contact with a wonderful person, and we we've had a good chat. And,   I'm hoping to maybe   have a dabble. And like I say, it's just every other day. But we'll see, and perhaps I can give you an update in a month and say, wow. Now I'm even more motivated than ever. I don't drink wine anymore. And, you know, these are the things that I would like to stop. We've all got our little vices, haven't we? And, I do drink wine every night.   You know, I wanted to be motivated for the gym, but then, do you know, after all of that, I joined the gym, spent stupid money, probably went about 6 times.   And my neighbor said to me, if you can't enjoy the gym with a buddy, then it's not for you. And I was like, yeah. Just admit it. But I wanted to be able to go because I wanted to make changes, but it's not for me.  

I met my daughter there a couple of times at, like, 6 o'clock in the morning, and I must say, actually, it was a wonderful feeling seeing, like, you know, the sunset come in and leaving there and thinking, oh, I've done my workout for the day. But would I wanna do that every day?   No.   And truth is I like having a drink of wine or 2 or 3,   and I like it a lot.   But I think, you know,   I know that I would be a lot more focused   the next day   if I didn't have this naughty little thing in my life.   And like last night, an example, I was invited onto an American   radio show,   Blackbird 9, and, it was quite annoying, actually, but I had to stay up till midnight.  

It didn't start till midnight because, obviously, it was going out there 7 PM, I think, that time.   So I waited until about 11 PM, and then I thought, right, I can have a little drink now. And I wasn't sloshed wasn't sloshed at all.   And we had a really good conversation about what's going on in the UK,   regarding the riots in the last few weeks   and immigration   and multiculturalism,   all sorts of things like   that. I made a phone in, and a guy phoned in who was   82 years old, and he had a really good rant about the future and where we saw it going. And then   I sort of zone out, and sometimes I do that when I'm listening to things. We all do, don't we? You're watching something, but your mind moves somewhere else.  

And then Blackbird 9 says to me, and what are your thoughts on that, Shelley?   And I was like, oh my god. Oh my god. And I just there must have been about a 5 second   silence,   and I was really panicking.   Unfortunately,   my brain could recap what the guy was talking about, and I managed to give an answer.   But I've decided that if anything like that happens again, I'm just gonna, like, mute my Skype and pretend that I've got Internet problems.   But it just made me realize after that happened, I've got to concentrate, especially when you're doing things like this. You can't just zone out.   But I am a bit like that. I'm a bit here, there, and everywhere. I am that person.  

My other half said tonight, I said, can you blend the soup? Because today, you know, I stayed up late. The I didn't go to bed till about 2:15 this morning,   so I woke several times. I I got up early, had a cup of tea in bed and a couple of biscuits, and then slept on and off till, like, half 12. And then by the time you've had another cup of tea and you get out, it's, like, 1 o'clock. And I just feel like I wasted the day,   but that was the wine I think that I continued   to drink.   And I think part of a hangover   is that   tiredness,   and today I've had no motivation. I feel it in my mind, and I'm a bit annoyed because it was like, oh, I wanted to do this. I wanted to do that,   And I managed to get up and go shopping, and I was like, I'm gonna cook a roast. I didn't particularly enjoy it because I've realized I don't actually like vegetables,   and it's just got me thinking. You know? I tried to encourage my son to eat something, but if you don't like something like that, there's it's really hard to eat. So perhaps I'm gonna have to find,   a supplement   that will fill the gap of vegetables   on and off. They're really nice with some really nice gravy and stuff, but I'm just listening to my body and thinking, well, perhaps my body doesn't need that carrot.  

We're all told that we need to eat these healthy things, and I do wanna be healthier. But,   anyway, all these vegetables,   I cooked up a soup, and I was there blending it for ages. And I don't usually get really productive days. See, one side of it, I was really lazy, but the other side, I was productive. So we've got a lovely great saucepan out there full of homemade vegetable soup. So I was blending it, and in the end, I had to say, can you do this so I can go go and do something else? Because I just get itchy. I can't stay in the same place   too long, and I will quite often put a pan of potatoes on to boil and go and do something and suddenly remember because I can smell burning.  

Anyway, that's me in the kitchen. I think it's really hard being a woman, isn't it?   Every day, you've got to think of something to make for tea.   If it was just me, I'd probably just have a bowl of cereal or something like that.   Go easy. Just something easy.   I I don't not into all of this cooking, but sometimes I love it. But that's me with everything. Anyway, like I was saying, so I've got this new focus coming coming about, all these new ideas and,   changing things about a bit with this show and with my   other show that I do on Wednesday night, which is more   I tried to keep this show a bit tame,   you know, easy listening. People can have a chat, have a listen, perhaps relate to what you talk to. Whereas the Shelley Tasker show that I do on a Wednesday,   I tend to have guests, and we get stuck in on a matter.  

But this week, I went solo, and and it worked out okay. Worked out okay. And it's I've got a new found confidence at the moment,   and I'm gonna just do all these things. I've actually put my guitar   on a couch here this evening because I'm thinking when I'm done the show,   I'm gonna get back to learning the guitar.   Darren bought me a guitar years ago, and I've wanted to play. And when we were in lockdown,   I did learn a few chords,   but,   I work in a residential, not residential, nursing home, and I sing once a week to the clients. I've I've got a   PA that we use, and the microphone, it's all from when it was the COVID times when we were out protesting.  

And, yeah, I've learned a lot, plugging the iPad in and learning how to download stuff and just doing all of this stuff tonight, going live on Rumble,   streaming with Odyssey, and stuff like that. It's taken its toll, and you do need   a clear brain to make these things work.   The amount of times over the last few years where I've been trying to stream live video and things, and things have just gone tits   up. It's frustrating, but   we we were talking last night, myself and Maleficos, who I do the connection   with, about the prayer of serenity.  

Sure most of you have heard that. The prayer of serenity is, well, god grant me the serenity to accept the things   I cannot change, and   I can't remember the last bit. Most of you will know where I'm coming with that, but I think acceptance is a good thing. And when you get to that point that you say, do you know what? I'm just gonna do this. I'm gonna do my best. If it goes tits up, it goes tits up. It's out of my control,   and I will just carry on and hopefully next week get it right.   And I've been in that mindset for about a year now, and but sometimes it thinks it's I think it stops your driving force because you're not striving for perfection or to be the best because you're just accepting   this is how it is.  

I'm contradicting myself there a little bit, but I think I always live on both sides of everything. If there's an argument, I always see the other side, and there is always 2 sides. Anyway, I'm gibbering on now about nothing, aren't I? I'm gibbering on. I see there's a few, on Rumble. If you wanna leave any comments,   if anybody wanted to phone in, I can give you the details. Like I was saying earlier, in the next couple of weeks, there should   be a phone in button   so we can take live calls. It'd be nice to hear from anybody. Anything, silly little things   may need to do with women's stuff, but, you know, it's not just about women.  

It's just the aim is to be just a little bit relaxing, have a little bit of fun.   Anyway,   I am gonna try and get that song that I wanted to play.   A little bird told me, and I think it's gonna work.   Let's   see. Maybe it's not.   It says it's downloaded, and this is what I mean. Some some files work and some don't. It will play for me. As soon as I finish the show tonight, if I wanna play it, it'll play. It's, just how the world works.   Anyway, so what have you guys been up to this weekend? Have you done anything interesting?   Have you put yourselves out of your comfort zone and set yourself any tasks?  

I mean, we've been living in this house now for nearly 6 years,   and we've been doing so many different jobs   here here, there, and everywhere. And I've realized that Darren is a bit of a starter.   I'd I'm not slating him because he's an absolute angel,   but, you know, I've had a big studio bit outside from my photography, and ironically, I didn't seem to be doing hardly anything.   I think photography in this day and age   is is hard because there's so many people that do it for next to nothing.   People have got good phones. I've taken photos of my granddaughter in the studio, and my daughter sat there with her phone taking photos, and they do. They look just as good as mine.   And I'm not in for it now to just do photoshoots for next to nothing.  

You know, years ago, I had a real viable business. I had a studio in the high street, which I ran for 7 years,   And then people start coming in underpricing   it. I'll give you a disc with all your pictures on it. You know, £30 job done.   Well, it's all very well, but it puts the people out of business that have got studios to pay for. And, you know, photography equipment is not cheap.   But I've got all the setup up there, and I've got all these options at the moment with work. And I I always find it's all or nothing, and I'm a bit like, which direction am I gonna go to at the moment?   Because the home that I work in,   we've got a big meeting on Tuesday, and it looks like it's gonna be closed down. Now they will have to redeploy us somewhere,   but it's got me thinking that I could go out into other care homes with my little PA,   and I could sing for an hour. You know, it's not the pop star thing that I wanted to do as a child, but I love singing some of the old songs, and and I can sing okay.  

And, actually, I could earn doing that what I earn in a day.   So there's that option. There's the option with photography. I was thinking about birth photography.   Going back to bath again is one of those things that I'm really passionate about,   and I probably   would have loved to have been a midwife.   But what would stop me would be all the red tape because I'm quite,   voodoo y, maybe say spiritual, holistic.   I find I would find that lots of things that would be suggested   in a hospital,   I wouldn't be able to advise people,   and I would get in trouble for saying what I think they should be doing.  

But when I did have my son, you see, I had a doula. If you don't know what a doula is, it's like, an advocate for   birth and pregnancy.   They're on your side. They know you and your body. Well, they don't know your body like that, but they guide you through the process rather   than just a medical looking at birth as a medical procedure. I mean, let's face it. It's not. But you go to hospital, white walls everywhere, and your body your labor stops because it's frightened. You're not in your home surroundings. I mean, I did have a wonderful birth, and I had a birth photographer.   And I thought, what a joy   to I mean, I would rather you know, I've got I have a birth photographed. I've been married before, but I would rather have those birth photography photographs than   but I would rather have those birth photography   photographs   than wedding photographs.  

They mean so much to me,   and what a delight to share that experience, and it could be the next best thing to actually becoming a midwife.   So there's that element of   it. So those are the main two things, but the thing is like that, you're gonna have to be on call all the time, aren't you? And this is where I would have to give up drinking wine because   and, you know, you are gonna be cool literally from 2 weeks before their due date until 2 weeks after.   And in the UK,   Cornwall, where I live, there's not actually any birth photographers.   So I'm looking into that.  

But all of a sudden, because my mind is in the right place, all of these opportunities are unfolding, and I'm just, like, kind of waiting.   There's so many things we can do. I know lots of people are quite worried   about losing their jobs and stuff like that, but like I said, they will be redeployed somewhere.   But when life is good, life is really good. And when it's crap, it's bloody crap, isn't it?   So I'm into all of this. How can we better ourselves?   And the conversation with Joe earlier about the bookshelf, we've only now had this book shelf. Well, it's an alcove that Darren's finally finished. He started it about 3 years ago.   So all of my books have come down from the loft,   and I now can see all of my books, and books are part of my life. And when I glanced at them earlier,   you'll see, like, over the last 30 years or so,   spirituality,   self help, healing, lots of books about self help, healing, and depression.  

And I don't ever wanna get rid of those. Those are things they are stories of my life.   And I'd like to hear from people, you know, if there's a really good book that's changed your life.   I find it a fascinating subject like books. I started reading very young, and I can remember when our teacher would read to us, having those little trays that we used to have under our desks,   reading my own book because it was more enjoyable. I must have been about 8, and I was an avid reader. I would literally set my alarm before I had to get up in the morning so I could carry on reading.   I don't tend to do that anymore,   and I would like to get into a good book.  

Yesterday, I did pull out a book, and before I had my late night nap because I had to go on radio show, I did read a whole chapter. So but folk in the faraway tree faraway tree by Enid Blyton, that's gonna be one of the first books that I read, and it just opened my mind and my imagination to think we could go to different planets,   different lands at the top of the tree. And   Enid Blyton in this country now, she's actually had, you know, they have placards in this country, outside houses,   of somebody famous that used to live   there. But because of some of the names and things that she's used in her stories,   they've now taken that sign away because she was a racist, apparently.  

But that's how the world is going.   And not once when I was a child do I recall   reading any of those books   thinking it was racist. I wouldn't have known any different,   but the dog's name, I'm not gonna say it because I could potentially get in trouble. You can't say anything at the moment, can you?   Free speech and all of that stuff.   Anyway,   please do make contact if you've got any ideas, would like to chat about anything. Like I say, the phone lines will be open in a few weeks, and it'd be great to have a bit more, involvement from you guys.   Anyway, I'm gonna go now,   and,   I will speak to you. I should be back same time next week, having a sneaky chat with Jo in her workplace, and we'll go from there. Have an awesome week, guys.