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In this episode of Women's Hour, host Shelley Tasker shares her personal struggles with car troubles and the cold weather in Cornwall. She discusses her motivation to work hard to afford a new car after her current one failed its MOT. Shelley humorously recounts borrowing her father's old Peugeot and the challenges that come with it.
The episode takes a serious turn as Shelley discusses the upcoming Million Women March, aimed at raising awareness about child abuse, sexual abuse, and the failures of the justice system. She passionately speaks about the need for more justice and support for women and children, highlighting the low conviction rates for rape and the lenient sentences for offenders.
Shelley also delves into the mystery of Jeanette Tate's disappearance, exploring the potential involvement of her father and the failures of the police investigation. The discussion touches on the broader issue of abuse and the reluctance of the press to cover such topics.
Captain Jo Wood joins the conversation, sharing her experiences with recent farmer protests in London, highlighting the growing numbers and the impact of these demonstrations. The episode also features a light-hearted discussion with Shelley's daughter, Maddie, about beauty standards, aging, and the pressures of maintaining appearances.
The episode concludes with a humorous exchange about exercise, weight loss, and the challenges of staying motivated during the winter months.
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Unknown:
Good evening to all of you beautiful women out there and the occasional gentlemen listening too. I'm Shelley Tasker, and this is Women's Hour. Today's date is what is it? It's Sunday February 16. Oh, there I am. 2025. So excuse the hat. It's covering up the I just couldn't be bothered to do my hair today, actually. And now we're doing video. Do you have to make a bit of an effort? But I have actually had my hat on all day. It is terribly, terribly cold here in Cornwall. I'm dying for sunshine. I'm dying for sunshine. So I'm quite motivated at the moment because I need to work, work, work to, one, get a car. My car died this week.
Went for an MOT, and it's probably about £500 worth of work to be done. But I don't see the point in throwing it. Those of you that have seen my car, it is like a car that's been banger racing, basically. I might just let my son take it and finish it off. There isn't one panel on it that is good enough to sell, really. So spares and repairs is parked in the drive. Had that car seven years. Boring information for you. But then it's like catch 22, isn't it? Need to work. Haven't got a car. So my dear daddy has lent me his car, a very old Peugeot, I think it is, and he's told me to look after it. I'm not allowed to have the dog on it in it or anything like that.
I have had to laugh, though, because when I collected it today, my mom was like, don't open that door, mind. It gets stuck. Don't do this, or don't do that. So I went straight away. I said, don't worry. Tell dad I'll treat it just as I treated my car, but better. And I did have a near miss, actually. I was beeped at at traffic lights. And, oh, there's a traffic light set in Campbell near Tesco's, and it confuses me all the time. So heart was pounding from that. Come home, park the car, and the window wouldn't do back up. Electric windows. So me and Darren have been out there, and I'm sorry, dad, to hear it if you're listening.
We've jammed it up, but I won't be undoing the window in the car tomorrow. I think that element of your car is gone, the electrics. I didn't do it. I just pressed the button. This is just some pouring conversation for you because I'm waiting for captain Jo Wood who is running unprofessionally late again. I'm waiting for her excuse. I bet she's on the phone to a farmer or probably sorting out something really important, actually. But Jo will be joining us any minute. And then for part two, my daughter Maddie is gonna come on again, and we're gonna discuss some, interesting things that I think, well, women women find interesting, the whole joys of aging.
You know, what the young think of it, the process and all the procedures you can get these days, and what us well, those approaching 50, those over 50, how we deal with these lines apart from wearing a hat. And I haven't got a blur or a filter on, but there's some special light in it. It doesn't look too bad. But a fringe a fringe is a good option as well. I had a fringe cut in a few weeks ago, but, oh, crikey. I can't because it's short. You know, you have to go through it with the straighteners. I've got curly hair. I just can't be bothered. Can't be bothered. So a hat it is. Anyway, what's going on this week? Well, you've heard me babbling on about it the last few weeks. Tomorrow is the day for the million women march happening nationwide throughout The UK.
Do believe it's happening in some other places as well, the other side of the pond, which is great stuff. So I've actually, like, teamed together with a group of women. They are such amazing women, and they're so passionate about this cause. And it's to bring awareness about the elephant in the room, the the things that people really don't wanna talk about, child abuse, sexual abuse, screaming gangs, you name it. Under that umbrella, there's such a massive category. And people people are frustrated because the justice system some of the things I've been looking into and lots of us know, you know, a pedophile will go to they'll get sentenced. They'll get a suspended sentence. Somebody else will go in, like my dad went in for hate speech. Three years.
And, then a pedophile that went in for his second count of grooming two teenage girls that were sisters got a two year suspended sentence. How do we fathom that? How do we fathom that? And it's the whole point as well regarding the justice system that out of all of the cases cases that are reported for rape, it leads to a one percent conviction rate. People aren't believed, especially children. And it puts people off straight away, doesn't it? Why would you wanna go for all of that when you know that there's a one percent chance that your predator is gonna have a sentence?
Quite a harrowing thing, really. But it's, you know, these things all these big people that have been involved in things like this, they just get such light sentences or even no sentences. Slapped risk for a little bit of pedophilia, you know, a few images on your phone, slapped wrist. Sorry. It's disgusting. It's absolutely disgusting, and it riles me. It riles me because it is everywhere. I've been digging into this absolutely loads the last few weeks, and I've been going down certain rabbit holes. And there's a website, actually. I think it's called Labour 51.
I'll have to find it in a minute and share it. But it basically shows you, like, all of the people over the last fifteen years that have been high up and not had any charges really made against them. And it's got all of the names of these people, you know, people that work for the council, head teachers, all of those in power. And this is the problem. It usually is people that people look up to. How do you look at someone and think, oh, you're a pedophile. How you know? And their trusted reputations when someone brings a case against them, they're not believed. Only recently, last week, I think it is, that a head teacher had thousands of images on his computer, and he got a two year suspended sentence. This is a head teacher, for crying out loud.
So more justice, and we want more help for women and children. And, you know, obviously, men get abused as well, but this march is based on women and children. And it has resulted in a bit of hoo so to speak because there's lots of men that would have liked to have gone on the march as well. Well, it wasn't my decision. You know, it's a million women march and children. So we are planning to do another one that's gonna involve men as well because quite rightly, they, you know, they play a pace in this as well. They're not all predators. So we you know, the point is tomorrow that we're gonna meet up. It's an apolitical event. There's you know, it doesn't matter what race, what religion you are. It's about coming together for the women and the children.
So crikey. It's these women, they're amazing. They're women that have come together, and I've never before had so many messages. People were like, oh, can we do anything to help? So I'm just hoping now that there's a really good show up tomorrow because so much work has been put into this. So we're meeting at 11:30 outside Trowe Cathedral in Cornwall, and then the march leaves at twelve. So we're gonna do a short march over to Lemon Quay where we've got a small stage to be set up by a wonderful helper, mister Keith Burgess, and I believe Dave Lanyon is helping as well. And then we've got some speeches because some speakers lined up. We've got the wonderful Debbie Hicks, passionate speaker, passionate activist, coming from oh gosh.
Up the line. Up the line, anyway. Bless her. And another lady, Lisa Rain no. Lucy Rain. Oh, great. I better get this name right for tomorrow when I introduce her. And the lovely Amy Hamilton, who was on a couple of weeks ago, and she was American. And she told us the, oh, horrendous story about her childhood and the grooming gangs and stuff like that. And then we do have one surprised guest speaker, but we cannot announce it. So it's gonna be, it's gonna be good. It's gonna be good. I hope so anyway. So I've got the PA charging. We've got buckets we're trying to sort out so we can do a collection, and the collection for the money raised is gonna help pay for the train fares and stuff of the speakers. So fingers crossed. So if you're at the loose end tomorrow, do come along. You know, men are welcome to stand on the sidelines, so to speak, or go to the key and wait for the speeches, but it is, as we keep saying, a women and children's march.
So, I've been talking to lots of people about this, which has just driven me down rabbit holes and old stories, actually. I met with a lady last week for a coffee, and she was telling me that she's a counselor. And she said you wouldn't believe how many people I mean, she's a counselor in Cornwall. And I don't mean a counselor for the council. I mean, counselor for, like, psychiatric mental health and stuff like that. And she was saying that the links for some of these victims that come in and speak to her about abuse, they're all kind of related around certain areas. The same man is involved. The same families are involved.
It's, it's a scary thing, and it's massive. It's everywhere. And she's currently going through a massive court case. You know, we talk about five generation farmers, but we're talking about five generation pedophiles here because quite often, it goes on and on. And those generations below, the grandchildren, they're just forever affected by it. But she's gonna come on and be a guest one week and tell us her story. I don't you know, life isn't it is the elephant in the room, isn't it? I don't wanna, like, just come here and talk about doom and gloom. But these things, they do need talking about.
And I do wonder why so many people shy away from the subject. They say, well, it's very dark. Isn't it a very dark subject? Well, yes. It is, but it still needs addressing. And we've reached out to so many people regarding the press to see if they will advertise our event, and they just don't get back to you. They don't wanna know because, ultimately, as well, it's like those at the top. It's, it's not just reporting it. It's those people, unfortunately, police officers and stuff like that that are involved as well. We don't like to believe it, but it is. It is. So this woman was telling me about a lady called Jeanette Tate.
Some of you might recognize the name. Now this woman, she was a young girl back in 1985. I believe she was 13 years old. She was doing a newspaper round, and she had 30 old newspapers to deliver, saw a couple of her girlfriends. And when they came back at the road where she was ten minutes later, there was just a bicycle on the floor and all the newspapers everywhere. And this is one case now that people were like, they've never found a body. They've never found out any information about this. Well, obviously, there was an inquiry and stuff like that. But going on and, I mean, god, did I go down a rabbit hunt?
It would appear that it was actually her father that most likely did it. And at times and I mean, they used to call in on psychics and spirituals and stuff to try and help solve cases like this. And someone was saying that they knew where Jeanette's body was, etcetera, and they put this person in prison, wouldn't follow-up his, you know, his psychic abilities or what have you for one reason or another. But the man that was involved was very good friends with the father of Jeanette. And these are things that the police didn't look into. And the man, the friend I hope this doesn't sound too confusing.
He knew about Jeanette's disappearance an hour before anybody else did. And, anyway, you should go to the Facebook page. It's called remembering Jeanette Tate. And people are still up in arms about this case because they wonder, where is she? Was she actually saved and someone took her away to get her away from her father and all the abuse that was supposedly going on? Or, sadly, I believe she probably was murdered. But it's all to do with how the police didn't act how they should have done. They didn't follow the right people. Anyway, the guy that was the friend of Jeanette's dad, he actually got charged with four murders of children, like, four years later. And he'd written a book about a girl going missing on a bicycle and stuff. Well, look into it now, and it's a case they still won't go back to. But there's so many people out there. They've all kind of turned into their own little investigators asking for information for this. They're still writing to the police now, Devon and Cornwall Police, for freedom of information requests, asking specific questions because they think they've got an idea what might have happened to Jeanette.
But it is one of the all time biggest mysteries of somebody going missing. Anyway, I've been delving into that. So, I know it's dark. I seem to be going into lots of dark subjects at the moment. Like, I'm heavily into the whole World War two and reading a book, Hellstorm. I'll show you the picture a second. I'm probably about three quarters full now. Okay? And it is not for the faint hearted. Because I was telling Joe about this last night, about what really happened to the women during the war. And it would appear that, especially in Germany, they were just all raped and murdered.
I never just I never seen so much. You don't hear about it, do you? You imagine war. You see bits from the school, not from the school, from the newspaper. But you you still have this vision of people in trenches firing guns and stuff like that. You know people were murdered and stuff. But the horror stories, two nights ago, I actually struggled going to sleep because I couldn't get these images out of my mind. But it's happened, but it's only eighty years ago. And I'm trying to get this understanding about how the psychology of this works. You know? Like, whole platoons of men raping women, children, grandmothers.
It's always been there, but it's like when they were all thrown together and the English had a play part to play in it as well. Anyway, captain Jo Wood is in the room. Let's bring her in the room. She's only fifteen minutes late. Let's see what her excuse is. Let's, you need to unmute captain
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Joe. Love technical stuff. Right. Can you hear me? There we go. Can you hear me? Whoop. Whoop. Whoop. Whoop.
[00:17:02] Unknown:
You're loud. You're loud. That's okay. Are you not showing your camera?
[00:17:06] Unknown:
No. Because you know why? I've washed my hair. My hair's still drying. I look like crystal tips Barbie, and I'm multitasking as well. So it's not a good look, I'm afraid. And I've not got my pilot's uniform on, so don't wanna disappoint.
[00:17:26] Unknown:
We do need to get you a pilot, like, outfit, don't we, and get, like, a profile picture of you done? I do do you know? I I am no Britney fan.
[00:17:35] Unknown:
Not a fan at all. Britney Spears. But, you know, she does that one toxic, and she's in the, aircraft dressed as a pilot. That's the look I'm gonna go for.
[00:17:49] Unknown:
A bit tarty.
[00:17:52] Unknown:
Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. So so I do apologize. I am late. I was trying to get off a bloody Zoom that was full of intel information, which was just wonderful, and then I had to cut it short. And then rumble would not allow me to log in, so do apologize.
[00:18:15] Unknown:
It's becoming a regular thing, Jo.
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Do you know what? I mean, this would be a frightening thought for anybody, and it is for me. I need to clone myself. I need to clone myself so I can be in several places at once.
[00:18:30] Unknown:
No. We we appreciate you being here. We do. So, anyway, Jo. Jo. Jo. Tell us. Yes. Tell us. I tried to find a picture just now of you in the tank from the photo that you took. And I wanted to share it, but I couldn't work out how to do it. And then I crashed rumble, and I was like, oh, crickey, Shelley. Why do you do this, like, ten minutes to go? So tell the listeners about your great outing with the farmers last week.
[00:18:58] Unknown:
Oh, yes. I mean, it was very, very eventful, very tiring, but very worthwhile. So I got to London late Sunday afternoon last week. I went to a secret location that is, believe it or not, an inner city farm. Would you imagine that they would have such things in London? But they do. And, like I said, I got there late Sunday afternoon, helped sort of the higher echelon, if you will, team, naturally, I involved in. And, we were set in sort of, you know, the stage up, all the media equipment, flags, banners. At that point, it became dark, so there was only so much we could do.
Then tractors started to arrive on the back of low loaders, so organized getting some of those off. So that kind of took us up to about half past nine, ten o'clock at night, went back to the hotel, got literally four hours sleep, if that, because, you know, people are, like, messaging one another. Got up at 4AM, got to the farm for about quarter to five. All the tanks were in position. The stage was set. The media started to arrive. So we had Good Morning Britain, Sky TV. There I don't know why, but there was a media crew there from Australia. Clearly, they didn't yeah. Clearly, they didn't fly in, but they are obviously, you know, stationed here.
We have The Telegraph there, The Guardian, The Daily Mail, Daily Express, and then sort of several independent YouTuber type people. So everybody, tractors as well, started to sort of filter into the farm from about 5AM. Bearing in mind, some of these guys had driven down from Yorkshire in their tractor. You know? So they had sort of set off at, like, 10:00 at night the night before and just traveled through the night. Now you know because you've been in a tractor. They don't go particularly fast.
[00:21:42] Unknown:
I was wondering what the top speed of a tractor does. Did you ask a question? Because you did learn a lot. I
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I I learn a lot on this trip. I learned a lot about different types of tractors. However, when we've done the rallies before with the tractors, when I started, all these farmers were going, oh, yeah. Well, some older models, they only go, like, 30 k, but the new ones will go up to 50 k. And I'm like, woah. Why are you talking in k? Where's the miles per hour? Well, it transpires that they talk in terms of transmission. Again, that means nothing to me. So your average speed of a tractor is around 35, 40 k, which goes to around 37, 40 two miles an hour.
So it's not really that fast. And for people to sort of travel down from North Yorkshire is is quite a distance. So, yeah, they all started to filter in. Breakfast was laid on. People could have fry ups or sort of, you know, egg, bacon, sausage, baps, tea, coffee. The farm actually laid all of that on for us. So when I say farm, those of us in the Southwest will be familiar with a place that was called Dairyland, and it's almost like an attraction with farm animals. This place was like Dairyland but a lot larger. So, yeah, we had Nigel Farage there, head of the, u I was gonna say Ukip. He was UKIP, reform party.
He was there, spent the morning with us. He didn't travel into London on a tank. I don't know how he got into London, but he did. I partway traveled on a tank, had some fantastic responses from the public. So our journey in led by three tanks and about 200, two hundred and 50 tractors following behind was pretty epic. Lots of people literally stop in their cars to get out, take pictures, people videoing. Got into London. I've gotta say I don't particularly want to, but I've gotta say the police were pretty good in organizing sort of, congestion that we were causing.
[00:24:25] Unknown:
So then the difference then this time? Because when we went to the first rally in London A Couple Of Months ago, the tractors were all warned off, and it was like, there's no way. If you come in on your tractors, you're gonna be arrested, blah blah blah. How did that change?
[00:24:43] Unknown:
My answer to that is on this one. I don't know other than so there's been three rallies in London on foot that we went to. Then there was another tractor rally in London that probably had about 600, six hundred and 50 maybe tractors. And I think that probably set the precedence for the one that's just happened. So they I don't think they really didn't. They really didn't because they were having to park tractors down side streets as opposed to Whitehall. In actual fact, they had closed off Trafalgar Square as well because Whitehall runs into Trafalgar Square, and, like, tractors were just going round and round in a circle, clogging that up. So they closed that down.
They then put people down side streets. And all in all, there was about 15 to 1,600 tractors.
[00:25:44] Unknown:
Wow.
[00:25:45] Unknown:
So yeah. Yeah. It was it was a good day. It really, really was a good day. And, really, the message is every time the tractors or the farmers have gone to London, we have grown in numbers. You know? So we've gone to probably, like, I don't know, 40,000 people on foot for the first one. Then the tractors went in at, like, 600, six hundred and 50. And then the third time, just recently, we've gone to, like, 1,500, 16 hundred tractors. So the message really is, you know, you better start listening because every time we come back, we're just gonna get bigger and bigger and bigger. So that was last weekend.
Monday just gone. We hit the news again because Claire Starmer visited a building site in Milton Keynes that was a what's the word I'm looking for? I can't think of the word right now. Anyway oh, compulsory. Jeez. Not a difficult word, is it? It was a compulsory land buy from farmers, and these fields are, like, just huge. Huge. And it's a very flat area, Mount, Milton Keynes. But, they've they're they're now building, like, thousands upon thousands of houses on this farmland. Anyway, Keir Starmer thought that he would go and visit, and he thought that it was all very hush-hush. But we got some intel, and we sent about 40 tractors there to protest.
They got really close, which was quite interesting. Not close enough, but very, very close. And then we started to blow all of our air horns, which are really, really loud. So he he was, like, trying to give a press interview to the, Sky TV, and he had to cut it short because, you know, he couldn't even hear himself think, let alone talk. He had to be airlifted out on a helicopter. They send a helicopter. No.
[00:28:12] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I love it.
[00:28:15] Unknown:
Yeah. He did get in a Range Rover and sort of drive past the tractors, but that was only to the point of being airlifted out because he didn't want a whole load of tractors following him.
[00:28:30] Unknown:
Do do you think he's gonna stand down on this? Because I I saw something on x the other night, and, I don't know. He was interviewing somebody, and he basically said that it's like NHS waiting lists go quicker, or we have the inheritance tax. So it's our choice, food or longer waiting lists. Yeah.
[00:28:52] Unknown:
You know, he there's no short answer, really. What he is doing is basically trying to appeal to the general public that have spent years, if not a decade and a half, being really, really annoyed about the state of our NHS. Probably in the last five, seven years, the public has started to complain about the price of everyday food. Unfortunately, the general public aren't really or up to speed with the realism of the problem. In terms of the cost of food, the public are paying over two to 300% more than what the farmer gets paid. So that two to 300% extra that you pay on carrots or potatoes or meat or bread or whatever it may be is pure profit for the supermarkets.
[00:30:13] Unknown:
That for them.
[00:30:14] Unknown:
Yeah. So the government have kept that very, very quiet because, obviously, you know, there's shareholders involved, and then those shareholders give a percentage of dividends to the coffers of the government pot. In terms of appealing to the public about the NHS, what what the government would gain from enforcing inheritance tax on the farmers is 500,000,000.
[00:30:50] Unknown:
Right.
[00:30:51] Unknown:
That that 500,000,000 only funds the NHS for twenty four hours. So he is putting out his announcement as if the money he will get from putting inheritance tax on the farmers will fund the NHS. It won't. It will fund the NHS for twenty four hours. In actual fact, it's less than twenty four hours. It's like twenty two hours and something minutes for one day for one day. Friday. So so he is playing a psychological game with the public's mind and their perception. But we've got a little counterargument for that coming up. So, you know, the public will be very aware very soon.
[00:31:45] Unknown:
Cool. Cool. Alright. Well, Maddie has arrived in the room. Yeah. Maddie's in the room. Loud.
[00:31:54] Unknown:
He's going with the headphones in.
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I've got the lid. Let's let's get Maddie up as well. Hang on. There she is. It's my beautiful daughter. It's a bane. She is the bane of my life, Jo. For my mother. Good evening, young miss Madeline. How are you?
[00:32:15] Unknown:
I'm good. Thank you. Sorry. I only caught the end of your, last conversation. So I've been rushing about getting Phoebe to bed. Sounds really interesting.
[00:32:23] Unknown:
It's been quite hectic, Maddie. Quite hectic.
[00:32:26] Unknown:
What do you think, Maddie? I mean, your younger generation, are you into politics as such? Think screwed.
[00:32:34] Unknown:
I am you know what really irritates me is that me and Ollie say all the time how hard we work to just be able to afford the basics, really. Like, to go on holiday or to do anything nice. And, I don't mom's probably spoke about it before. But just the childcare cost alone, how expensive it is, doesn't motivate people with young children to want to go out and work. And sometimes I think actually I'll be better off not going to work financially. Yeah. It's really tough. It's not very motivating.
[00:33:07] Unknown:
No. No. I just oh, I feel for people. I really do. I really do. But, anyway, miss Madeline, we thought it would be fun to talk about, beauty and stuff tonight. Okay? Because me and me and Joe had a good chat last night. And this is probably one reason she's not showing her face as well because now she believes that her eyelids are just hanging over her eyes, and she needs a little and she needs a little operation.
[00:33:37] Unknown:
Do you know where I'm going, Maddie? Do you know where I'm going for it?
[00:33:41] Unknown:
Is it like Turkey?
[00:33:44] Unknown:
No. I'm going to Bali.
[00:33:47] Unknown:
Do you know? I was looking somewhere.
[00:33:49] Unknown:
So it's it's all in Bali.
[00:33:52] Unknown:
I'm just gonna dump it. Do you know how do you know how much it is to have two done?
[00:33:57] Unknown:
How much?
[00:33:58] Unknown:
1,200.
[00:34:00] Unknown:
Right, Jo. Sorry. But in Amsterdam, I think you get it done for £700.
[00:34:05] Unknown:
Are they still on her way. That's not on her way because she's planned a trip to include all of this, you see. She's going to Singapore and everywhere, and she's gonna stop off for a week to have her eyelids done. And what made me laugh was I was talking to her about my frozen shoulder and that I need one of those cortisol injections. She was like, oh my god. They're supposed to really hurt, but she's gonna go ahead and have an operation if her eyelids can't open.
[00:34:32] Unknown:
Yeah. Beauty's pain, though, innit?
[00:34:34] Unknown:
It is. Well, I mean, I'll say I know somebody I don't know, and I follow him on Facebook, which is how I sort of came to the Bali thing. She lives in Australia, and she had sort of sort of videoed her progression of surgery. I mean, she was quite overweight at some point, so she had a lot of excess skin, and they cut it off. And she thought, you know what? Whilst I'm here, I'm gonna have my eyelids done. So she had documented that and the surgeon. And that surgeon is very, very good, like, is world, well known for her eyelid procedure. Anyway, this woman said it was less painful than having an eyebrow wax.
That's sold me.
[00:35:23] Unknown:
Well, Bridget Jones, the lady that plays her, she's had her eyelids done, hasn't she?
[00:35:28] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I don't wanna be looking like that. I wanna be looking natural, but, you know, something has to be done. Something has to be done. And that's what I've decided. On my way through to Korea, I'm gonna fly to Singapore. I'm gonna spend about thirteen hours in the airport. Now I know that sounds crazy.
[00:35:53] Unknown:
Singapore Airport, Sydney.
[00:35:55] Unknown:
Yeah. I would love to spend thirteen hours by myself just sitting at a wall with and and I'm really No. I mean If if you have some spare time in between two children,
[00:36:05] Unknown:
just have a look at Singapore Airport. It is fantastic. It has the largest, indoor rainforest in the world. It's got numerous amounts of swimming pools, huge hotels. It's literally a resort in itself. Now many moons ago, I did actually airport and spend five days there. But this airport is new, and I'm like, I'm going there. So I'm gonna spend thirteen hours, little trip on to Bali, get myself sorted, be by the pool the next morning, cocktail in hand, bit of sun, there for a week, then go on to South Korea for two weeks, and then come back home. I say it's like the perfect little pet me up. But when are you getting your eyelids done?
[00:36:58] Unknown:
At what stage?
[00:37:00] Unknown:
Well, at what stage I'll be going to Singapore Thirteen Hours at the airport.
[00:37:06] Unknown:
Yep.
[00:37:07] Unknown:
Bali, yep, for a week, having the eyelids done, and then on to Korea. So by the time I come home, I'll look like I've not been butchered.
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I'm all for it. I think if something really bothers you that much and you can pay to fix it, why not?
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Where does that come from? Who's your mother? Who is your mother? That is You can say to me, you can do whatever you want. Whatever you want to do, you can do
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it.
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Yeah. Within within reason. And I'm I'm thinking that props lots of listeners are probably with me on this. You know? I think aging is hard. Of course, it's hard. We all wanna look. I wanna look like I did at 20. But a fringe and a hat, does it? Look at me. I'm looking amazing.
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I thought you did that last night. You are. You are. But at some point at some point in time, that hat has got to come off, hasn't it?
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If I'll just do my fringe. But but I know it's my daughter has to point out all of these things. My daughter told me about, like, hooded eye eyes. Again, I never even knew what her eye was. Never knew.
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Because, Jo, she was asking, how do I get my eyeliner to look like that? And I'd say, well, it won't because when you've got hooded eyes I've got hooded eyes. You just need to learn a different way of doing it. And then because I put a label on it, she's she's really, like, She's quite about it now. Yeah.
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Yeah. You see, I mean, I do agree with what you're saying, Maddie, about hooded eyes. I'm not saying I agree that your mother's got onto my degree, but it really is difficult to put eyeliner on when you've got them. You know? You don't you don't wear eyeliner, Jo. You don't wear makeup.
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But she's got good eyes.
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I've got three, isn't it? To put any makeup on. I I do, but, I mean, like Maggie said, you've just gotta learn to do it in a different way. And and I have, but it just isn't effective enough. Like you, I wanna look like I was at 19. And if I can pay to have that done with my eyes, then that's what I'm doing.
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Yeah. I won't be growing old gracefully. But I'll be very public about it. I'm not gonna say, oh, no. I just woke up like this. I got lucky. I'll be very honest, but I'm not gonna grill gracefully
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if I don't have to. Well, you get some people that go, oh, no. I've never had anything done. You know? And you're like, really? Really? Yeah. Those fox eyes aren't natural.
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As long as you're honest about it, then it's alright.
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Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. So I'm really looking forward to it.
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I can't wait to see the before and afters.
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Oh, for crying out loud. I know.
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No. You're getting me even more excited about it. I mean, do you quite I mean, you won't, but, Shelley, do you sort of sometimes stand in the mirror and hold your sort of, you know,
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hooded eyes up? I do that and rub my wrinkles and scratch my face. Yeah. And I go look like.
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Yeah. But it's almost a relief, isn't it? Because when you hold, like, your eyebrows up, you're like, oh, my eyes don't feel heavy anymore. That's that's what I'm going with because it's a medical reason. That's what I'm saying. It's a medical reason why I'm having it done.
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But you I mean, other than this, though, is body dysmorphia because
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speaking to my counselor about this and that the problem comes when you don't like something about yourself and you stare at it in the mirror for too long, your mind will actually make it worse than it is. So every time you look in the mirror, to you, it looks horrific. But that's because you're paying so much attention on it and your mind's kind of distorting what it really looks like. So I just try and look in the mirror less.
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Or not look at photographs of yourself that people take and then I'm like, oh, dear lord. See, it's it's not just me looking looking in the mirror. It's actually now in print, and I'm like, no. No. I'm not spending the rest of my life looking like that.
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But there's somebody that that much
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That they're not them. In
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you, isn't it? You know, like the Botox stuff, the fillers, and things like that. Jo, you know, won't have a COVID vaccine.
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I could say that about your wine every evening. Every evening. Every week.
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Drinking a nice cup of tea.
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God. Really? Oh, no. I'm not. What what is it? Wine.
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Do you know I get my pre ditter nerves doing this? I do about 10 people. Yeah. I do. Every week. I don't know why. And tonight, touch wood, technical stuff, it's all gone swinging. Look at that. Maddie's here. I think Rumble have done a review because are you on a mobile phone, Maddie?
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Yeah. It was a nightmare, though. I had to open it in, like, a Internet tab, not through the app. Right.
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It's working. Yeah. I mean, I had problems with it as well. It didn't wanna let me on. Your mother must have been climbing the wall.
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You you no. I I was ranting away about my, about the March tomorrow, actually, and about my rabbit holes of the missing, Jeanette Tate and things like that. What we were talking about last night, Jo
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Yeah. Well, have you tied up all your loose ends with the March?
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Yeah. I think so. I think so.
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Yeah. Have you got your
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have I got my what?
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Have you got your speakers?
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Or are you gonna be doing them? Yeah. I've got them here on charge.
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All on charge. Everyone No. It's not those speakers. You you people doing your speeches.
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Oh. Yes. Charge. Of course I have. Of course I have. Are you coming down, Maddie, on your lunch break?
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Yeah. I'll try. No. See how my days go. Yeah. Yeah. I'd normally get lunch in me in about ten minutes, and then I'll be free.
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Wow. Will that be a first on a protest with your mom?
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I'll stand and watch from afar.
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She she was awful, you know, Jo. If it when we were in COVID, like, a lot of people would slate me to Maddie, and she would never say that I was her mum. And then if somebody said, oh, I like what Shelley Tasker's doing, Maddie would be like, oh, that's my mum. She
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chooses when and when when and when she doesn't want me. You know, it is. It's like I don't wanna get in the debates with people. It's quite hurtful, isn't it? Someone say it. Someone's slagging someone off to you. You think, oh god. That's that's my mum. You know? I'm not gonna get the conversation. Yeah. That's true. Smile and wave.
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Well, I suppose we all deal with things differently, don't we? Yeah. We don't need to, do you? Just, I don't know. Not really Well, do you remember
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do you remember the one we did with Lance, Shelley? And it was pouring with rain. I mean, that was a fantastic rally for many, many reasons. But, my mom came to my house when we were all sort of getting ready to go, and she said, right. I like you, Nadia, I'm just gonna come down and stand on the sidelines. But if anything happens, don't you call out to me. Don't you tell anybody I'm your mother. And I'm like, yeah. Whatever. You know? I'm not gonna call out to you. I'll be too bloody busy. Anyway, it all started to get a little hot under the collar, shall we say. No. It was And And there was a couple of riot vans there, and they had put a young girl in the back of the riot van. Oh, I remember this. Yeah. Yeah. And everybody kicked off.
And then all of a sudden, I heard a man say, no. Come on, love. You gotta get out the way. You gotta get out the way. And I'm like, what? Hang on. What's happening? And as I sort of came round to the front of the riot van, it was my mother who decided to throw herself on the floor and stop the riot van leaving. And I'm like, what on earth are you doing? Lunches. I told you. Don't talk to me. And I'm like, okay, crazy lady. I don't know who you are, but you gotta get up now.
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Oh my gosh. That's brilliant.
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Yes. Well, you never know. You could experience that with your mom tomorrow.
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No. It's nothing like that. I do do miss those days, though. There was something so exciting when the police were gonna be there and that you weren't supposed to be there.
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Yeah. It was crazy.
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Fun. Crazy. Crazy. I I sent your mum a friend request on Facebook, Jo. Did you know she was on Facebook? Your mum? Yeah. Did you know she was on Facebook? No.
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I really don't think she knows she's on bloody Facebook. Oh, wow.
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Oh, my mum sees everything on Facebook. She's in every group going.
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You know? Yeah. She's my pop liker. If I put anything up and it's doing a bit short on the likes, Ollie says it's well. So I'll wait for Sonia. She'll be here in a minute sharing it and liking it.
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Oh, good old Sonia. Yeah. She is a little angel. Bless her. Little angel.
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Oh, isn't she jealous? Yeah. So have you decided if you're gonna get Botox then, mother? Because you've been if in and am in, haven't you?
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No. Not if if I got really depressed about it, I think I would. But at the moment, my fringe in my hat is enough.
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What are you gonna do this summer?
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Yeah. But that's the thing, isn't it? When the sun comes out, you've got a suntan, I feel fine. I just don't feel any of this. It's always wintertime when you feel blah. And I find spring comes and you're like, I mean, I'll just look in the mirror and you're like, oh god. I feel like shit. It doesn't matter what I'm wearing. It doesn't matter what my hair's done. Like, you just feel like shit, don't you? But with that suntan, it's just around the corner, Maddie. It's just around the corner. And I'm gonna be slim. I'm gonna be slim. I wrote, you know, my chalkboard in the kitchen, Maddie?
I wrote on it yesterday. I am going to be thin this year, and I signed it. Okay? What do you think about these weight loss injections?
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No. No. No. See? You see? I would do
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I know. I was I was just wondering what you both thought on them.
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I did look into it when you one mentioned it to me because I'm I've seen loads of people that lost so much weight. And it's really funny actually because when I mentioned it to your granny, she sent me a link to somebody that had died from it and, don't have this done no matter what you do. It is tempting. Of course, it's tempting. A little injection. But, everybody's just gonna look like the same, aren't they? Thin
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lollipop heads. I wonder how it works as well because I know it, like, suppresses your cravings. But when you stop taking it, because you haven't done it naturally, does that mean once you're slimmed down and you've stopped, you're gonna put the weight back on? Yes.
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Because you didn't control
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your eating.
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Yeah. Ozempic was used for diabetics to control their sugar levels. So the moment that you would stop that, you're gonna have probably some serious cravings. I don't know I don't know anything about it. So maybe maybe you wean yourself to a really, really low level, and you take it
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for life, I don't know. I don't know. But no. I mean, because they don't know what the side effects are long term, do they, of doing that? No. But isn't it crazy? You can just go on the Internet, and I could order that now, and it'll be here in a couple of days and, woah, in a month, I'll be thin.
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What? Order it from, like, some Cactus. Online. No. No. No. You just go on. Online. No. You don't know what it would be.
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No. No. I've looked into it because I was really like, woah. You have something. Yeah. Wow. Interested. And I literally got to that point. You have to lie about your weight because my weight wasn't, like, obese or anything. So I gained added an extra two stone, and then they said, yes. You're able to have it. And then it takes you to the buy now bit.
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Wow. Wow.
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You can get whatever you want now really, can't you? But I want to see the thing is I can't do a lot because I've got a frozen shoulder. I've walked for the last few days a lot, and I'm gonna eat less. But I think my brain is, like, getting in that right I'm gonna be thin, and I need you to help me, Maddie. Miss Monique. You have
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the willpower of a bloody Kit Kat? You you just need to stick with her.
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I know. That was harsh.
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She she got a membership there and she went twice. Well, I in with me. Yeah. Not today, though. Yeah. Not today, though. Yeah. Not today.
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I I can't speak because where I live, I've actually got a gym in my building. And when I moved in, like, over a year ago, I said, yeah. I'm gonna use that gym, you know, maybe three, four times a week. No excuse. It's like like 20 steps is all I have to walk to get to it inside my building. And I've never used it in my life before. It's got one it's got a running machine, a steps machine, a rowing machine, a whole load of weights. It's got a Swedish sauna in there as well. I've never ditch
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membership, Maddie. Just go to Joe's every morning.
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I don't know. I'll say no. I'll be there.
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I've never used it. I just
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I think you gotta I've just booked myself a 10 k. But I never ran 10 k. When did I book it on what? Wednesday? And it's at the March. And I was gonna do the five k, which is what? 3.1 miles? And I booked a 6.2 mile race. Oh my god. And I thought, yeah. I'll give it a crack. So I've got about a month and a half, and I just put a load of pressure on myself, but it really works because I hate failing at things. So I went for my first run on Saturday, and I was so annoyed around six miles. And I didn't realize that it's it was 6.2 for a for a 10 k. So I got home actually buzzing, and I was like, I've done it. Done it in this time, and I was like, well, a couple of steps up the road off. And that's why don't you sign up to do something like that, mum? Could do the five k.
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Yeah. Go on, Shelley. Go on. Go on. Why don't you do it with me, Jo? I'd be daft. Honestly, I'll get If I ran,
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I would I would throw up. You know, sometimes when you see, like, professional runners, because naturally, along with a bloody pilot. I am a professional athlete. So, you know, sometimes you see them running, and then they just throw up when they're running. That would be me. I would throw up.
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Yeah. I worry that's me. But, you know, when you see them running and then they sorry, mom. I don't know you don't like cruneness, but they just start pooping everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. That would be me running through the woods.
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Yeah. Yeah. No. It's not there. It's straight to me.
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It'll be Maddie with my poo crumbs.
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Yeah. Oh my gosh. You have lowered the tone on women's hour. That's oh, sorry. I forget about it. It's women's hour. I must be Women's hour. You must be holy, prim and proper. Yeah. I will find something. I quite like walking. I do like walking. Is that enough? I mean, I did nearly two hours yesterday. Did, like, 10,000 steps. I was quite proud of myself.
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But I need to eat less as well. But, you know, I've got a little bell there. Just You don't need to exercise at all. As long as you eat less than what you burn, you don't need you don't even really need to exercise.
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As usual, it's my wine. The first week, I did no wine. I lost two pounds straight away.
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That's a lot.
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It is, isn't it? And I need to be I mean, see this book. It's back to front, Atomic Habits. I've read this book for years. I need to read it again just to make small changes. I mean, I did 10 sit ups in bed the other night, And the next night, I did 20.
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That's it. It's little wins, though. It is. Little wins. Pan at all.
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20 sit ups. You know, I've got frozen shoulder. I can't do much. You can squat.
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You can go on a step up. You can stop making excuses, mother.
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Yeah. Like, I I read that as you were making an excuse.
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Because I thought you. Listen to you. You can't run because you'll be sick. You got a gym downstairs.
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Stairs. I just promise that not meant to be enjoyable. You know, when you're there feeling really horrible, you think, well, no. So I'm just a bit closer to my goal. You just listen to some music or a good podcast and get on with it. And And I'd like to make it your routine, it becomes normal. It's like, you know, I I don't like doing the kids bedtime routines. It's so stressful, but I've gotta do it. It is what it is. I think I'll wake up in one hour. I don't wanna do it, but it is what it is. Get on with it. Yeah. I mean, I do have that sort of mentality about a lot of things. But another thing about going to the gym or wherever working out,
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you get hot and sweaty, and then I have to deal with that. I have to deal with my I have to deal with the hair that's, like, gone all frizzy or something. And I don't have the time for that. I really don't you know, it's shampoo.
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A bit of what? Dry shampoo. Yeah. Do you know when I got off my run and it's raining, this is proper grim, but I don't care. I put shove my hat up, and I put a shower cap on top of it, and then I put a beanie hat over the top. Oh, yeah. And I think I'm a double winner, so my hair isn't going frizzy. And I don't have to worry about the protest because they probably think I'm a man running.
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Stop now. Oh my god. That is Resemble mom in a beanie. That is the best tip, the shower cap. Yeah. You see, that's what I I don't wanna have to take a contend with the hair afterwards and then to sort of work my way back to looking half human after I've just, like, killed myself running or going to the gym. And and you're keeping that heat in via your shower cap in your head, aren't you, which that heat will then just add up the thermal burning of the fat cells in the body. Love it. And to be honest, Jo, once you get your eyelids done,
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then I'm gonna be a waste away. I'm gonna be exercise without needing your makeup or your hair done.
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You're selling it to me even more. Do you know what? I said to your mother yesterday. I said, do you know what? I think this year, I'm just not gonna work as much. But now now that is the goal. I'll I'll get my eyelids done, and then, you know, I'll be a serious athlete and not just playing at it Because once they're done, I won't need any makeup. I just have to deal with the hair, and that that is one thing less, isn't it?
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If I'm sure right, I'd get my eyebrows microbladed. I'll get my lashes stuck on, and I'd get my hair chemically straightened.
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Well, I have thought about the chemically straightened, but because there's bleach in it, and my hair is very fine, I've got a lot of it, it would break off. That would be terrible. Happy. Alright. Big o.
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Just wear a hat. Just wear a hat. Just wear a hat. Hats just solve a multi multiple what is the word?
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Multitude.
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That's the one. Multitude of sins. Yeah. Definitely. How many hats do you have, Shelley? Probably about six or seven. I wanted a new one for tomorrow, but I left it too late. I've got all new clothes for tomorrow. I've got some of those wide leg jeans. I don't know if I look a bit odd in them. Oh, have you got them on now? No. I'm saving them for tomorrow. Oh, cool. My my rally outfit and a nice pink jumper, and then I've ordered new new trainers on Klarna. But I've ordered them twice because I don't know what happened. They're not gonna be here in time. So, yeah. I'm like, well, I just want to I love a bit of Klarna.
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Don't you think that? Because it's winter and you're all like, I feel a bit miserable, And I just want to keep chucking money, which I don't have at Lowe's Yes. And through hair stuff. And I am You are a you are a shopaholic. You are. Yep. Yeah. Because I it makes me feel better for, like, five minutes. And then the then the endorphin rush goes, and you think, oh, no. What can I buy now? What can I do now? But I think it's just the time of the year. There's nothing to do. The weather's miserable. And especially, like, in Cornwall with kids. There's not really a lot of places to take them, is there?
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Not only the beach and the woods. We've got loads of beautiful places.
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Yeah. But it's And it's windy.
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Just put your bloody wet gear on and get out there.
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Come on. That's from a a a child's point of view, I mean, how many beaches or woods can they actually take? They just all look the same, don't they, really?
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No.
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I can go to the beach or to the
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woods. Like, yeah, it's nice, and we're lucky. But, you know, when you go for your hundredth time
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Right, ladies. Well, we need to, close-up because we've come to the end. So, thank you, captain Jo and miss Madeleine Trewella. And dear listeners smart.
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And Jo with your eyes.
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Thank you very much. Yeah. She thinks she's gonna take you with her. I was like, no. You're alright. Don't you be a bad influence on my child? Right. I'm playing out the the outro music. I will be back the same time next week. Have an awesome week, everybody. Bye bye. Bye. And stream.
Good evening to all of you beautiful women out there and the occasional gentlemen listening too. I'm Shelley Tasker, and this is Women's Hour. Today's date is what is it? It's Sunday February 16. Oh, there I am. 2025. So excuse the hat. It's covering up the I just couldn't be bothered to do my hair today, actually. And now we're doing video. Do you have to make a bit of an effort? But I have actually had my hat on all day. It is terribly, terribly cold here in Cornwall. I'm dying for sunshine. I'm dying for sunshine. So I'm quite motivated at the moment because I need to work, work, work to, one, get a car. My car died this week.
Went for an MOT, and it's probably about £500 worth of work to be done. But I don't see the point in throwing it. Those of you that have seen my car, it is like a car that's been banger racing, basically. I might just let my son take it and finish it off. There isn't one panel on it that is good enough to sell, really. So spares and repairs is parked in the drive. Had that car seven years. Boring information for you. But then it's like catch 22, isn't it? Need to work. Haven't got a car. So my dear daddy has lent me his car, a very old Peugeot, I think it is, and he's told me to look after it. I'm not allowed to have the dog on it in it or anything like that.
I have had to laugh, though, because when I collected it today, my mom was like, don't open that door, mind. It gets stuck. Don't do this, or don't do that. So I went straight away. I said, don't worry. Tell dad I'll treat it just as I treated my car, but better. And I did have a near miss, actually. I was beeped at at traffic lights. And, oh, there's a traffic light set in Campbell near Tesco's, and it confuses me all the time. So heart was pounding from that. Come home, park the car, and the window wouldn't do back up. Electric windows. So me and Darren have been out there, and I'm sorry, dad, to hear it if you're listening.
We've jammed it up, but I won't be undoing the window in the car tomorrow. I think that element of your car is gone, the electrics. I didn't do it. I just pressed the button. This is just some pouring conversation for you because I'm waiting for captain Jo Wood who is running unprofessionally late again. I'm waiting for her excuse. I bet she's on the phone to a farmer or probably sorting out something really important, actually. But Jo will be joining us any minute. And then for part two, my daughter Maddie is gonna come on again, and we're gonna discuss some, interesting things that I think, well, women women find interesting, the whole joys of aging.
You know, what the young think of it, the process and all the procedures you can get these days, and what us well, those approaching 50, those over 50, how we deal with these lines apart from wearing a hat. And I haven't got a blur or a filter on, but there's some special light in it. It doesn't look too bad. But a fringe a fringe is a good option as well. I had a fringe cut in a few weeks ago, but, oh, crikey. I can't because it's short. You know, you have to go through it with the straighteners. I've got curly hair. I just can't be bothered. Can't be bothered. So a hat it is. Anyway, what's going on this week? Well, you've heard me babbling on about it the last few weeks. Tomorrow is the day for the million women march happening nationwide throughout The UK.
Do believe it's happening in some other places as well, the other side of the pond, which is great stuff. So I've actually, like, teamed together with a group of women. They are such amazing women, and they're so passionate about this cause. And it's to bring awareness about the elephant in the room, the the things that people really don't wanna talk about, child abuse, sexual abuse, screaming gangs, you name it. Under that umbrella, there's such a massive category. And people people are frustrated because the justice system some of the things I've been looking into and lots of us know, you know, a pedophile will go to they'll get sentenced. They'll get a suspended sentence. Somebody else will go in, like my dad went in for hate speech. Three years.
And, then a pedophile that went in for his second count of grooming two teenage girls that were sisters got a two year suspended sentence. How do we fathom that? How do we fathom that? And it's the whole point as well regarding the justice system that out of all of the cases cases that are reported for rape, it leads to a one percent conviction rate. People aren't believed, especially children. And it puts people off straight away, doesn't it? Why would you wanna go for all of that when you know that there's a one percent chance that your predator is gonna have a sentence?
Quite a harrowing thing, really. But it's, you know, these things all these big people that have been involved in things like this, they just get such light sentences or even no sentences. Slapped risk for a little bit of pedophilia, you know, a few images on your phone, slapped wrist. Sorry. It's disgusting. It's absolutely disgusting, and it riles me. It riles me because it is everywhere. I've been digging into this absolutely loads the last few weeks, and I've been going down certain rabbit holes. And there's a website, actually. I think it's called Labour 51.
I'll have to find it in a minute and share it. But it basically shows you, like, all of the people over the last fifteen years that have been high up and not had any charges really made against them. And it's got all of the names of these people, you know, people that work for the council, head teachers, all of those in power. And this is the problem. It usually is people that people look up to. How do you look at someone and think, oh, you're a pedophile. How you know? And their trusted reputations when someone brings a case against them, they're not believed. Only recently, last week, I think it is, that a head teacher had thousands of images on his computer, and he got a two year suspended sentence. This is a head teacher, for crying out loud.
So more justice, and we want more help for women and children. And, you know, obviously, men get abused as well, but this march is based on women and children. And it has resulted in a bit of hoo so to speak because there's lots of men that would have liked to have gone on the march as well. Well, it wasn't my decision. You know, it's a million women march and children. So we are planning to do another one that's gonna involve men as well because quite rightly, they, you know, they play a pace in this as well. They're not all predators. So we you know, the point is tomorrow that we're gonna meet up. It's an apolitical event. There's you know, it doesn't matter what race, what religion you are. It's about coming together for the women and the children.
So crikey. It's these women, they're amazing. They're women that have come together, and I've never before had so many messages. People were like, oh, can we do anything to help? So I'm just hoping now that there's a really good show up tomorrow because so much work has been put into this. So we're meeting at 11:30 outside Trowe Cathedral in Cornwall, and then the march leaves at twelve. So we're gonna do a short march over to Lemon Quay where we've got a small stage to be set up by a wonderful helper, mister Keith Burgess, and I believe Dave Lanyon is helping as well. And then we've got some speeches because some speakers lined up. We've got the wonderful Debbie Hicks, passionate speaker, passionate activist, coming from oh gosh.
Up the line. Up the line, anyway. Bless her. And another lady, Lisa Rain no. Lucy Rain. Oh, great. I better get this name right for tomorrow when I introduce her. And the lovely Amy Hamilton, who was on a couple of weeks ago, and she was American. And she told us the, oh, horrendous story about her childhood and the grooming gangs and stuff like that. And then we do have one surprised guest speaker, but we cannot announce it. So it's gonna be, it's gonna be good. It's gonna be good. I hope so anyway. So I've got the PA charging. We've got buckets we're trying to sort out so we can do a collection, and the collection for the money raised is gonna help pay for the train fares and stuff of the speakers. So fingers crossed. So if you're at the loose end tomorrow, do come along. You know, men are welcome to stand on the sidelines, so to speak, or go to the key and wait for the speeches, but it is, as we keep saying, a women and children's march.
So, I've been talking to lots of people about this, which has just driven me down rabbit holes and old stories, actually. I met with a lady last week for a coffee, and she was telling me that she's a counselor. And she said you wouldn't believe how many people I mean, she's a counselor in Cornwall. And I don't mean a counselor for the council. I mean, counselor for, like, psychiatric mental health and stuff like that. And she was saying that the links for some of these victims that come in and speak to her about abuse, they're all kind of related around certain areas. The same man is involved. The same families are involved.
It's, it's a scary thing, and it's massive. It's everywhere. And she's currently going through a massive court case. You know, we talk about five generation farmers, but we're talking about five generation pedophiles here because quite often, it goes on and on. And those generations below, the grandchildren, they're just forever affected by it. But she's gonna come on and be a guest one week and tell us her story. I don't you know, life isn't it is the elephant in the room, isn't it? I don't wanna, like, just come here and talk about doom and gloom. But these things, they do need talking about.
And I do wonder why so many people shy away from the subject. They say, well, it's very dark. Isn't it a very dark subject? Well, yes. It is, but it still needs addressing. And we've reached out to so many people regarding the press to see if they will advertise our event, and they just don't get back to you. They don't wanna know because, ultimately, as well, it's like those at the top. It's, it's not just reporting it. It's those people, unfortunately, police officers and stuff like that that are involved as well. We don't like to believe it, but it is. It is. So this woman was telling me about a lady called Jeanette Tate.
Some of you might recognize the name. Now this woman, she was a young girl back in 1985. I believe she was 13 years old. She was doing a newspaper round, and she had 30 old newspapers to deliver, saw a couple of her girlfriends. And when they came back at the road where she was ten minutes later, there was just a bicycle on the floor and all the newspapers everywhere. And this is one case now that people were like, they've never found a body. They've never found out any information about this. Well, obviously, there was an inquiry and stuff like that. But going on and, I mean, god, did I go down a rabbit hunt?
It would appear that it was actually her father that most likely did it. And at times and I mean, they used to call in on psychics and spirituals and stuff to try and help solve cases like this. And someone was saying that they knew where Jeanette's body was, etcetera, and they put this person in prison, wouldn't follow-up his, you know, his psychic abilities or what have you for one reason or another. But the man that was involved was very good friends with the father of Jeanette. And these are things that the police didn't look into. And the man, the friend I hope this doesn't sound too confusing.
He knew about Jeanette's disappearance an hour before anybody else did. And, anyway, you should go to the Facebook page. It's called remembering Jeanette Tate. And people are still up in arms about this case because they wonder, where is she? Was she actually saved and someone took her away to get her away from her father and all the abuse that was supposedly going on? Or, sadly, I believe she probably was murdered. But it's all to do with how the police didn't act how they should have done. They didn't follow the right people. Anyway, the guy that was the friend of Jeanette's dad, he actually got charged with four murders of children, like, four years later. And he'd written a book about a girl going missing on a bicycle and stuff. Well, look into it now, and it's a case they still won't go back to. But there's so many people out there. They've all kind of turned into their own little investigators asking for information for this. They're still writing to the police now, Devon and Cornwall Police, for freedom of information requests, asking specific questions because they think they've got an idea what might have happened to Jeanette.
But it is one of the all time biggest mysteries of somebody going missing. Anyway, I've been delving into that. So, I know it's dark. I seem to be going into lots of dark subjects at the moment. Like, I'm heavily into the whole World War two and reading a book, Hellstorm. I'll show you the picture a second. I'm probably about three quarters full now. Okay? And it is not for the faint hearted. Because I was telling Joe about this last night, about what really happened to the women during the war. And it would appear that, especially in Germany, they were just all raped and murdered.
I never just I never seen so much. You don't hear about it, do you? You imagine war. You see bits from the school, not from the school, from the newspaper. But you you still have this vision of people in trenches firing guns and stuff like that. You know people were murdered and stuff. But the horror stories, two nights ago, I actually struggled going to sleep because I couldn't get these images out of my mind. But it's happened, but it's only eighty years ago. And I'm trying to get this understanding about how the psychology of this works. You know? Like, whole platoons of men raping women, children, grandmothers.
It's always been there, but it's like when they were all thrown together and the English had a play part to play in it as well. Anyway, captain Jo Wood is in the room. Let's bring her in the room. She's only fifteen minutes late. Let's see what her excuse is. Let's, you need to unmute captain
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Joe. Love technical stuff. Right. Can you hear me? There we go. Can you hear me? Whoop. Whoop. Whoop. Whoop.
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You're loud. You're loud. That's okay. Are you not showing your camera?
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No. Because you know why? I've washed my hair. My hair's still drying. I look like crystal tips Barbie, and I'm multitasking as well. So it's not a good look, I'm afraid. And I've not got my pilot's uniform on, so don't wanna disappoint.
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We do need to get you a pilot, like, outfit, don't we, and get, like, a profile picture of you done? I do do you know? I I am no Britney fan.
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Not a fan at all. Britney Spears. But, you know, she does that one toxic, and she's in the, aircraft dressed as a pilot. That's the look I'm gonna go for.
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A bit tarty.
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Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. So so I do apologize. I am late. I was trying to get off a bloody Zoom that was full of intel information, which was just wonderful, and then I had to cut it short. And then rumble would not allow me to log in, so do apologize.
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It's becoming a regular thing, Jo.
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Do you know what? I mean, this would be a frightening thought for anybody, and it is for me. I need to clone myself. I need to clone myself so I can be in several places at once.
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No. We we appreciate you being here. We do. So, anyway, Jo. Jo. Jo. Tell us. Yes. Tell us. I tried to find a picture just now of you in the tank from the photo that you took. And I wanted to share it, but I couldn't work out how to do it. And then I crashed rumble, and I was like, oh, crickey, Shelley. Why do you do this, like, ten minutes to go? So tell the listeners about your great outing with the farmers last week.
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Oh, yes. I mean, it was very, very eventful, very tiring, but very worthwhile. So I got to London late Sunday afternoon last week. I went to a secret location that is, believe it or not, an inner city farm. Would you imagine that they would have such things in London? But they do. And, like I said, I got there late Sunday afternoon, helped sort of the higher echelon, if you will, team, naturally, I involved in. And, we were set in sort of, you know, the stage up, all the media equipment, flags, banners. At that point, it became dark, so there was only so much we could do.
Then tractors started to arrive on the back of low loaders, so organized getting some of those off. So that kind of took us up to about half past nine, ten o'clock at night, went back to the hotel, got literally four hours sleep, if that, because, you know, people are, like, messaging one another. Got up at 4AM, got to the farm for about quarter to five. All the tanks were in position. The stage was set. The media started to arrive. So we had Good Morning Britain, Sky TV. There I don't know why, but there was a media crew there from Australia. Clearly, they didn't yeah. Clearly, they didn't fly in, but they are obviously, you know, stationed here.
We have The Telegraph there, The Guardian, The Daily Mail, Daily Express, and then sort of several independent YouTuber type people. So everybody, tractors as well, started to sort of filter into the farm from about 5AM. Bearing in mind, some of these guys had driven down from Yorkshire in their tractor. You know? So they had sort of set off at, like, 10:00 at night the night before and just traveled through the night. Now you know because you've been in a tractor. They don't go particularly fast.
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I was wondering what the top speed of a tractor does. Did you ask a question? Because you did learn a lot. I
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I I learn a lot on this trip. I learned a lot about different types of tractors. However, when we've done the rallies before with the tractors, when I started, all these farmers were going, oh, yeah. Well, some older models, they only go, like, 30 k, but the new ones will go up to 50 k. And I'm like, woah. Why are you talking in k? Where's the miles per hour? Well, it transpires that they talk in terms of transmission. Again, that means nothing to me. So your average speed of a tractor is around 35, 40 k, which goes to around 37, 40 two miles an hour.
So it's not really that fast. And for people to sort of travel down from North Yorkshire is is quite a distance. So, yeah, they all started to filter in. Breakfast was laid on. People could have fry ups or sort of, you know, egg, bacon, sausage, baps, tea, coffee. The farm actually laid all of that on for us. So when I say farm, those of us in the Southwest will be familiar with a place that was called Dairyland, and it's almost like an attraction with farm animals. This place was like Dairyland but a lot larger. So, yeah, we had Nigel Farage there, head of the, u I was gonna say Ukip. He was UKIP, reform party.
He was there, spent the morning with us. He didn't travel into London on a tank. I don't know how he got into London, but he did. I partway traveled on a tank, had some fantastic responses from the public. So our journey in led by three tanks and about 200, two hundred and 50 tractors following behind was pretty epic. Lots of people literally stop in their cars to get out, take pictures, people videoing. Got into London. I've gotta say I don't particularly want to, but I've gotta say the police were pretty good in organizing sort of, congestion that we were causing.
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So then the difference then this time? Because when we went to the first rally in London A Couple Of Months ago, the tractors were all warned off, and it was like, there's no way. If you come in on your tractors, you're gonna be arrested, blah blah blah. How did that change?
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My answer to that is on this one. I don't know other than so there's been three rallies in London on foot that we went to. Then there was another tractor rally in London that probably had about 600, six hundred and 50 maybe tractors. And I think that probably set the precedence for the one that's just happened. So they I don't think they really didn't. They really didn't because they were having to park tractors down side streets as opposed to Whitehall. In actual fact, they had closed off Trafalgar Square as well because Whitehall runs into Trafalgar Square, and, like, tractors were just going round and round in a circle, clogging that up. So they closed that down.
They then put people down side streets. And all in all, there was about 15 to 1,600 tractors.
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Wow.
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So yeah. Yeah. It was it was a good day. It really, really was a good day. And, really, the message is every time the tractors or the farmers have gone to London, we have grown in numbers. You know? So we've gone to probably, like, I don't know, 40,000 people on foot for the first one. Then the tractors went in at, like, 600, six hundred and 50. And then the third time, just recently, we've gone to, like, 1,500, 16 hundred tractors. So the message really is, you know, you better start listening because every time we come back, we're just gonna get bigger and bigger and bigger. So that was last weekend.
Monday just gone. We hit the news again because Claire Starmer visited a building site in Milton Keynes that was a what's the word I'm looking for? I can't think of the word right now. Anyway oh, compulsory. Jeez. Not a difficult word, is it? It was a compulsory land buy from farmers, and these fields are, like, just huge. Huge. And it's a very flat area, Mount, Milton Keynes. But, they've they're they're now building, like, thousands upon thousands of houses on this farmland. Anyway, Keir Starmer thought that he would go and visit, and he thought that it was all very hush-hush. But we got some intel, and we sent about 40 tractors there to protest.
They got really close, which was quite interesting. Not close enough, but very, very close. And then we started to blow all of our air horns, which are really, really loud. So he he was, like, trying to give a press interview to the, Sky TV, and he had to cut it short because, you know, he couldn't even hear himself think, let alone talk. He had to be airlifted out on a helicopter. They send a helicopter. No.
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Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I love it.
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Yeah. He did get in a Range Rover and sort of drive past the tractors, but that was only to the point of being airlifted out because he didn't want a whole load of tractors following him.
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Do do you think he's gonna stand down on this? Because I I saw something on x the other night, and, I don't know. He was interviewing somebody, and he basically said that it's like NHS waiting lists go quicker, or we have the inheritance tax. So it's our choice, food or longer waiting lists. Yeah.
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You know, he there's no short answer, really. What he is doing is basically trying to appeal to the general public that have spent years, if not a decade and a half, being really, really annoyed about the state of our NHS. Probably in the last five, seven years, the public has started to complain about the price of everyday food. Unfortunately, the general public aren't really or up to speed with the realism of the problem. In terms of the cost of food, the public are paying over two to 300% more than what the farmer gets paid. So that two to 300% extra that you pay on carrots or potatoes or meat or bread or whatever it may be is pure profit for the supermarkets.
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That for them.
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Yeah. So the government have kept that very, very quiet because, obviously, you know, there's shareholders involved, and then those shareholders give a percentage of dividends to the coffers of the government pot. In terms of appealing to the public about the NHS, what what the government would gain from enforcing inheritance tax on the farmers is 500,000,000.
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Right.
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That that 500,000,000 only funds the NHS for twenty four hours. So he is putting out his announcement as if the money he will get from putting inheritance tax on the farmers will fund the NHS. It won't. It will fund the NHS for twenty four hours. In actual fact, it's less than twenty four hours. It's like twenty two hours and something minutes for one day for one day. Friday. So so he is playing a psychological game with the public's mind and their perception. But we've got a little counterargument for that coming up. So, you know, the public will be very aware very soon.
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Cool. Cool. Alright. Well, Maddie has arrived in the room. Yeah. Maddie's in the room. Loud.
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He's going with the headphones in.
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I've got the lid. Let's let's get Maddie up as well. Hang on. There she is. It's my beautiful daughter. It's a bane. She is the bane of my life, Jo. For my mother. Good evening, young miss Madeline. How are you?
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I'm good. Thank you. Sorry. I only caught the end of your, last conversation. So I've been rushing about getting Phoebe to bed. Sounds really interesting.
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It's been quite hectic, Maddie. Quite hectic.
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What do you think, Maddie? I mean, your younger generation, are you into politics as such? Think screwed.
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I am you know what really irritates me is that me and Ollie say all the time how hard we work to just be able to afford the basics, really. Like, to go on holiday or to do anything nice. And, I don't mom's probably spoke about it before. But just the childcare cost alone, how expensive it is, doesn't motivate people with young children to want to go out and work. And sometimes I think actually I'll be better off not going to work financially. Yeah. It's really tough. It's not very motivating.
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No. No. I just oh, I feel for people. I really do. I really do. But, anyway, miss Madeline, we thought it would be fun to talk about, beauty and stuff tonight. Okay? Because me and me and Joe had a good chat last night. And this is probably one reason she's not showing her face as well because now she believes that her eyelids are just hanging over her eyes, and she needs a little and she needs a little operation.
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Do you know where I'm going, Maddie? Do you know where I'm going for it?
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Is it like Turkey?
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No. I'm going to Bali.
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Do you know? I was looking somewhere.
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So it's it's all in Bali.
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I'm just gonna dump it. Do you know how do you know how much it is to have two done?
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How much?
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1,200.
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Right, Jo. Sorry. But in Amsterdam, I think you get it done for £700.
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Are they still on her way. That's not on her way because she's planned a trip to include all of this, you see. She's going to Singapore and everywhere, and she's gonna stop off for a week to have her eyelids done. And what made me laugh was I was talking to her about my frozen shoulder and that I need one of those cortisol injections. She was like, oh my god. They're supposed to really hurt, but she's gonna go ahead and have an operation if her eyelids can't open.
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Yeah. Beauty's pain, though, innit?
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It is. Well, I mean, I'll say I know somebody I don't know, and I follow him on Facebook, which is how I sort of came to the Bali thing. She lives in Australia, and she had sort of sort of videoed her progression of surgery. I mean, she was quite overweight at some point, so she had a lot of excess skin, and they cut it off. And she thought, you know what? Whilst I'm here, I'm gonna have my eyelids done. So she had documented that and the surgeon. And that surgeon is very, very good, like, is world, well known for her eyelid procedure. Anyway, this woman said it was less painful than having an eyebrow wax.
That's sold me.
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Well, Bridget Jones, the lady that plays her, she's had her eyelids done, hasn't she?
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Yeah. Yeah. I don't wanna be looking like that. I wanna be looking natural, but, you know, something has to be done. Something has to be done. And that's what I've decided. On my way through to Korea, I'm gonna fly to Singapore. I'm gonna spend about thirteen hours in the airport. Now I know that sounds crazy.
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Singapore Airport, Sydney.
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Yeah. I would love to spend thirteen hours by myself just sitting at a wall with and and I'm really No. I mean If if you have some spare time in between two children,
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just have a look at Singapore Airport. It is fantastic. It has the largest, indoor rainforest in the world. It's got numerous amounts of swimming pools, huge hotels. It's literally a resort in itself. Now many moons ago, I did actually airport and spend five days there. But this airport is new, and I'm like, I'm going there. So I'm gonna spend thirteen hours, little trip on to Bali, get myself sorted, be by the pool the next morning, cocktail in hand, bit of sun, there for a week, then go on to South Korea for two weeks, and then come back home. I say it's like the perfect little pet me up. But when are you getting your eyelids done?
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At what stage?
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Well, at what stage I'll be going to Singapore Thirteen Hours at the airport.
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Yep.
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Bali, yep, for a week, having the eyelids done, and then on to Korea. So by the time I come home, I'll look like I've not been butchered.
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I'm all for it. I think if something really bothers you that much and you can pay to fix it, why not?
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Where does that come from? Who's your mother? Who is your mother? That is You can say to me, you can do whatever you want. Whatever you want to do, you can do
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it.
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Yeah. Within within reason. And I'm I'm thinking that props lots of listeners are probably with me on this. You know? I think aging is hard. Of course, it's hard. We all wanna look. I wanna look like I did at 20. But a fringe and a hat, does it? Look at me. I'm looking amazing.
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I thought you did that last night. You are. You are. But at some point at some point in time, that hat has got to come off, hasn't it?
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If I'll just do my fringe. But but I know it's my daughter has to point out all of these things. My daughter told me about, like, hooded eye eyes. Again, I never even knew what her eye was. Never knew.
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Because, Jo, she was asking, how do I get my eyeliner to look like that? And I'd say, well, it won't because when you've got hooded eyes I've got hooded eyes. You just need to learn a different way of doing it. And then because I put a label on it, she's she's really, like, She's quite about it now. Yeah.
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Yeah. You see, I mean, I do agree with what you're saying, Maddie, about hooded eyes. I'm not saying I agree that your mother's got onto my degree, but it really is difficult to put eyeliner on when you've got them. You know? You don't you don't wear eyeliner, Jo. You don't wear makeup.
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But she's got good eyes.
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I've got three, isn't it? To put any makeup on. I I do, but, I mean, like Maggie said, you've just gotta learn to do it in a different way. And and I have, but it just isn't effective enough. Like you, I wanna look like I was at 19. And if I can pay to have that done with my eyes, then that's what I'm doing.
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Yeah. I won't be growing old gracefully. But I'll be very public about it. I'm not gonna say, oh, no. I just woke up like this. I got lucky. I'll be very honest, but I'm not gonna grill gracefully
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if I don't have to. Well, you get some people that go, oh, no. I've never had anything done. You know? And you're like, really? Really? Yeah. Those fox eyes aren't natural.
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As long as you're honest about it, then it's alright.
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Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. So I'm really looking forward to it.
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I can't wait to see the before and afters.
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Oh, for crying out loud. I know.
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No. You're getting me even more excited about it. I mean, do you quite I mean, you won't, but, Shelley, do you sort of sometimes stand in the mirror and hold your sort of, you know,
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hooded eyes up? I do that and rub my wrinkles and scratch my face. Yeah. And I go look like.
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Yeah. But it's almost a relief, isn't it? Because when you hold, like, your eyebrows up, you're like, oh, my eyes don't feel heavy anymore. That's that's what I'm going with because it's a medical reason. That's what I'm saying. It's a medical reason why I'm having it done.
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But you I mean, other than this, though, is body dysmorphia because
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speaking to my counselor about this and that the problem comes when you don't like something about yourself and you stare at it in the mirror for too long, your mind will actually make it worse than it is. So every time you look in the mirror, to you, it looks horrific. But that's because you're paying so much attention on it and your mind's kind of distorting what it really looks like. So I just try and look in the mirror less.
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Or not look at photographs of yourself that people take and then I'm like, oh, dear lord. See, it's it's not just me looking looking in the mirror. It's actually now in print, and I'm like, no. No. I'm not spending the rest of my life looking like that.
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But there's somebody that that much
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That they're not them. In
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you, isn't it? You know, like the Botox stuff, the fillers, and things like that. Jo, you know, won't have a COVID vaccine.
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I could say that about your wine every evening. Every evening. Every week.
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Drinking a nice cup of tea.
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God. Really? Oh, no. I'm not. What what is it? Wine.
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Do you know I get my pre ditter nerves doing this? I do about 10 people. Yeah. I do. Every week. I don't know why. And tonight, touch wood, technical stuff, it's all gone swinging. Look at that. Maddie's here. I think Rumble have done a review because are you on a mobile phone, Maddie?
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Yeah. It was a nightmare, though. I had to open it in, like, a Internet tab, not through the app. Right.
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It's working. Yeah. I mean, I had problems with it as well. It didn't wanna let me on. Your mother must have been climbing the wall.
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You you no. I I was ranting away about my, about the March tomorrow, actually, and about my rabbit holes of the missing, Jeanette Tate and things like that. What we were talking about last night, Jo
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Yeah. Well, have you tied up all your loose ends with the March?
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Yeah. I think so. I think so.
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Yeah. Have you got your
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have I got my what?
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Have you got your speakers?
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Or are you gonna be doing them? Yeah. I've got them here on charge.
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All on charge. Everyone No. It's not those speakers. You you people doing your speeches.
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Oh. Yes. Charge. Of course I have. Of course I have. Are you coming down, Maddie, on your lunch break?
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Yeah. I'll try. No. See how my days go. Yeah. Yeah. I'd normally get lunch in me in about ten minutes, and then I'll be free.
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Wow. Will that be a first on a protest with your mom?
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I'll stand and watch from afar.
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She she was awful, you know, Jo. If it when we were in COVID, like, a lot of people would slate me to Maddie, and she would never say that I was her mum. And then if somebody said, oh, I like what Shelley Tasker's doing, Maddie would be like, oh, that's my mum. She
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chooses when and when when and when she doesn't want me. You know, it is. It's like I don't wanna get in the debates with people. It's quite hurtful, isn't it? Someone say it. Someone's slagging someone off to you. You think, oh god. That's that's my mum. You know? I'm not gonna get the conversation. Yeah. That's true. Smile and wave.
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Well, I suppose we all deal with things differently, don't we? Yeah. We don't need to, do you? Just, I don't know. Not really Well, do you remember
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do you remember the one we did with Lance, Shelley? And it was pouring with rain. I mean, that was a fantastic rally for many, many reasons. But, my mom came to my house when we were all sort of getting ready to go, and she said, right. I like you, Nadia, I'm just gonna come down and stand on the sidelines. But if anything happens, don't you call out to me. Don't you tell anybody I'm your mother. And I'm like, yeah. Whatever. You know? I'm not gonna call out to you. I'll be too bloody busy. Anyway, it all started to get a little hot under the collar, shall we say. No. It was And And there was a couple of riot vans there, and they had put a young girl in the back of the riot van. Oh, I remember this. Yeah. Yeah. And everybody kicked off.
And then all of a sudden, I heard a man say, no. Come on, love. You gotta get out the way. You gotta get out the way. And I'm like, what? Hang on. What's happening? And as I sort of came round to the front of the riot van, it was my mother who decided to throw herself on the floor and stop the riot van leaving. And I'm like, what on earth are you doing? Lunches. I told you. Don't talk to me. And I'm like, okay, crazy lady. I don't know who you are, but you gotta get up now.
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Oh my gosh. That's brilliant.
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Yes. Well, you never know. You could experience that with your mom tomorrow.
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No. It's nothing like that. I do do miss those days, though. There was something so exciting when the police were gonna be there and that you weren't supposed to be there.
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Yeah. It was crazy.
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Fun. Crazy. Crazy. I I sent your mum a friend request on Facebook, Jo. Did you know she was on Facebook? Your mum? Yeah. Did you know she was on Facebook? No.
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I really don't think she knows she's on bloody Facebook. Oh, wow.
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Oh, my mum sees everything on Facebook. She's in every group going.
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You know? Yeah. She's my pop liker. If I put anything up and it's doing a bit short on the likes, Ollie says it's well. So I'll wait for Sonia. She'll be here in a minute sharing it and liking it.
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Oh, good old Sonia. Yeah. She is a little angel. Bless her. Little angel.
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Oh, isn't she jealous? Yeah. So have you decided if you're gonna get Botox then, mother? Because you've been if in and am in, haven't you?
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No. Not if if I got really depressed about it, I think I would. But at the moment, my fringe in my hat is enough.
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What are you gonna do this summer?
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Yeah. But that's the thing, isn't it? When the sun comes out, you've got a suntan, I feel fine. I just don't feel any of this. It's always wintertime when you feel blah. And I find spring comes and you're like, I mean, I'll just look in the mirror and you're like, oh god. I feel like shit. It doesn't matter what I'm wearing. It doesn't matter what my hair's done. Like, you just feel like shit, don't you? But with that suntan, it's just around the corner, Maddie. It's just around the corner. And I'm gonna be slim. I'm gonna be slim. I wrote, you know, my chalkboard in the kitchen, Maddie?
I wrote on it yesterday. I am going to be thin this year, and I signed it. Okay? What do you think about these weight loss injections?
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No. No. No. See? You see? I would do
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I know. I was I was just wondering what you both thought on them.
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I did look into it when you one mentioned it to me because I'm I've seen loads of people that lost so much weight. And it's really funny actually because when I mentioned it to your granny, she sent me a link to somebody that had died from it and, don't have this done no matter what you do. It is tempting. Of course, it's tempting. A little injection. But, everybody's just gonna look like the same, aren't they? Thin
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lollipop heads. I wonder how it works as well because I know it, like, suppresses your cravings. But when you stop taking it, because you haven't done it naturally, does that mean once you're slimmed down and you've stopped, you're gonna put the weight back on? Yes.
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Because you didn't control
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your eating.
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Yeah. Ozempic was used for diabetics to control their sugar levels. So the moment that you would stop that, you're gonna have probably some serious cravings. I don't know I don't know anything about it. So maybe maybe you wean yourself to a really, really low level, and you take it
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for life, I don't know. I don't know. But no. I mean, because they don't know what the side effects are long term, do they, of doing that? No. But isn't it crazy? You can just go on the Internet, and I could order that now, and it'll be here in a couple of days and, woah, in a month, I'll be thin.
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What? Order it from, like, some Cactus. Online. No. No. No. You just go on. Online. No. You don't know what it would be.
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No. No. I've looked into it because I was really like, woah. You have something. Yeah. Wow. Interested. And I literally got to that point. You have to lie about your weight because my weight wasn't, like, obese or anything. So I gained added an extra two stone, and then they said, yes. You're able to have it. And then it takes you to the buy now bit.
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Wow. Wow.
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You can get whatever you want now really, can't you? But I want to see the thing is I can't do a lot because I've got a frozen shoulder. I've walked for the last few days a lot, and I'm gonna eat less. But I think my brain is, like, getting in that right I'm gonna be thin, and I need you to help me, Maddie. Miss Monique. You have
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the willpower of a bloody Kit Kat? You you just need to stick with her.
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I know. That was harsh.
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She she got a membership there and she went twice. Well, I in with me. Yeah. Not today, though. Yeah. Not today, though. Yeah. Not today.
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I I can't speak because where I live, I've actually got a gym in my building. And when I moved in, like, over a year ago, I said, yeah. I'm gonna use that gym, you know, maybe three, four times a week. No excuse. It's like like 20 steps is all I have to walk to get to it inside my building. And I've never used it in my life before. It's got one it's got a running machine, a steps machine, a rowing machine, a whole load of weights. It's got a Swedish sauna in there as well. I've never ditch
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membership, Maddie. Just go to Joe's every morning.
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I don't know. I'll say no. I'll be there.
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I've never used it. I just
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I think you gotta I've just booked myself a 10 k. But I never ran 10 k. When did I book it on what? Wednesday? And it's at the March. And I was gonna do the five k, which is what? 3.1 miles? And I booked a 6.2 mile race. Oh my god. And I thought, yeah. I'll give it a crack. So I've got about a month and a half, and I just put a load of pressure on myself, but it really works because I hate failing at things. So I went for my first run on Saturday, and I was so annoyed around six miles. And I didn't realize that it's it was 6.2 for a for a 10 k. So I got home actually buzzing, and I was like, I've done it. Done it in this time, and I was like, well, a couple of steps up the road off. And that's why don't you sign up to do something like that, mum? Could do the five k.
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Yeah. Go on, Shelley. Go on. Go on. Why don't you do it with me, Jo? I'd be daft. Honestly, I'll get If I ran,
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I would I would throw up. You know, sometimes when you see, like, professional runners, because naturally, along with a bloody pilot. I am a professional athlete. So, you know, sometimes you see them running, and then they just throw up when they're running. That would be me. I would throw up.
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Yeah. I worry that's me. But, you know, when you see them running and then they sorry, mom. I don't know you don't like cruneness, but they just start pooping everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. That would be me running through the woods.
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Yeah. Yeah. No. It's not there. It's straight to me.
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It'll be Maddie with my poo crumbs.
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Yeah. Oh my gosh. You have lowered the tone on women's hour. That's oh, sorry. I forget about it. It's women's hour. I must be Women's hour. You must be holy, prim and proper. Yeah. I will find something. I quite like walking. I do like walking. Is that enough? I mean, I did nearly two hours yesterday. Did, like, 10,000 steps. I was quite proud of myself.
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But I need to eat less as well. But, you know, I've got a little bell there. Just You don't need to exercise at all. As long as you eat less than what you burn, you don't need you don't even really need to exercise.
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As usual, it's my wine. The first week, I did no wine. I lost two pounds straight away.
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That's a lot.
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It is, isn't it? And I need to be I mean, see this book. It's back to front, Atomic Habits. I've read this book for years. I need to read it again just to make small changes. I mean, I did 10 sit ups in bed the other night, And the next night, I did 20.
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That's it. It's little wins, though. It is. Little wins. Pan at all.
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20 sit ups. You know, I've got frozen shoulder. I can't do much. You can squat.
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You can go on a step up. You can stop making excuses, mother.
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Yeah. Like, I I read that as you were making an excuse.
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Because I thought you. Listen to you. You can't run because you'll be sick. You got a gym downstairs.
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Stairs. I just promise that not meant to be enjoyable. You know, when you're there feeling really horrible, you think, well, no. So I'm just a bit closer to my goal. You just listen to some music or a good podcast and get on with it. And And I'd like to make it your routine, it becomes normal. It's like, you know, I I don't like doing the kids bedtime routines. It's so stressful, but I've gotta do it. It is what it is. I think I'll wake up in one hour. I don't wanna do it, but it is what it is. Get on with it. Yeah. I mean, I do have that sort of mentality about a lot of things. But another thing about going to the gym or wherever working out,
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you get hot and sweaty, and then I have to deal with that. I have to deal with my I have to deal with the hair that's, like, gone all frizzy or something. And I don't have the time for that. I really don't you know, it's shampoo.
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A bit of what? Dry shampoo. Yeah. Do you know when I got off my run and it's raining, this is proper grim, but I don't care. I put shove my hat up, and I put a shower cap on top of it, and then I put a beanie hat over the top. Oh, yeah. And I think I'm a double winner, so my hair isn't going frizzy. And I don't have to worry about the protest because they probably think I'm a man running.
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Stop now. Oh my god. That is Resemble mom in a beanie. That is the best tip, the shower cap. Yeah. You see, that's what I I don't wanna have to take a contend with the hair afterwards and then to sort of work my way back to looking half human after I've just, like, killed myself running or going to the gym. And and you're keeping that heat in via your shower cap in your head, aren't you, which that heat will then just add up the thermal burning of the fat cells in the body. Love it. And to be honest, Jo, once you get your eyelids done,
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then I'm gonna be a waste away. I'm gonna be exercise without needing your makeup or your hair done.
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You're selling it to me even more. Do you know what? I said to your mother yesterday. I said, do you know what? I think this year, I'm just not gonna work as much. But now now that is the goal. I'll I'll get my eyelids done, and then, you know, I'll be a serious athlete and not just playing at it Because once they're done, I won't need any makeup. I just have to deal with the hair, and that that is one thing less, isn't it?
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If I'm sure right, I'd get my eyebrows microbladed. I'll get my lashes stuck on, and I'd get my hair chemically straightened.
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Well, I have thought about the chemically straightened, but because there's bleach in it, and my hair is very fine, I've got a lot of it, it would break off. That would be terrible. Happy. Alright. Big o.
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Just wear a hat. Just wear a hat. Just wear a hat. Hats just solve a multi multiple what is the word?
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Multitude.
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That's the one. Multitude of sins. Yeah. Definitely. How many hats do you have, Shelley? Probably about six or seven. I wanted a new one for tomorrow, but I left it too late. I've got all new clothes for tomorrow. I've got some of those wide leg jeans. I don't know if I look a bit odd in them. Oh, have you got them on now? No. I'm saving them for tomorrow. Oh, cool. My my rally outfit and a nice pink jumper, and then I've ordered new new trainers on Klarna. But I've ordered them twice because I don't know what happened. They're not gonna be here in time. So, yeah. I'm like, well, I just want to I love a bit of Klarna.
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Don't you think that? Because it's winter and you're all like, I feel a bit miserable, And I just want to keep chucking money, which I don't have at Lowe's Yes. And through hair stuff. And I am You are a you are a shopaholic. You are. Yep. Yeah. Because I it makes me feel better for, like, five minutes. And then the then the endorphin rush goes, and you think, oh, no. What can I buy now? What can I do now? But I think it's just the time of the year. There's nothing to do. The weather's miserable. And especially, like, in Cornwall with kids. There's not really a lot of places to take them, is there?
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Not only the beach and the woods. We've got loads of beautiful places.
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Yeah. But it's And it's windy.
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Just put your bloody wet gear on and get out there.
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Come on. That's from a a a child's point of view, I mean, how many beaches or woods can they actually take? They just all look the same, don't they, really?
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No.
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I can go to the beach or to the
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woods. Like, yeah, it's nice, and we're lucky. But, you know, when you go for your hundredth time
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Right, ladies. Well, we need to, close-up because we've come to the end. So, thank you, captain Jo and miss Madeleine Trewella. And dear listeners smart.
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And Jo with your eyes.
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Thank you very much. Yeah. She thinks she's gonna take you with her. I was like, no. You're alright. Don't you be a bad influence on my child? Right. I'm playing out the the outro music. I will be back the same time next week. Have an awesome week, everybody. Bye bye. Bye. And stream.
