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Women's Hour broadcasts live every Sunday at 7:00p.m. uk time. 

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In this episode of Women's Hour, we dive into a day filled with reflection, laughter, and community experiences. Jo and I spent a delightful day together, starting with a visit to a local church. We share our impressions of the welcoming atmosphere and the modern, relaxed approach to worship that we encountered. The service was an eye-opener, especially with the engaging storytelling about Nebuchadnezzar, which prompted us to explore more about biblical stories and their relevance today.

We also discuss the importance of having a moral compass and how traditional values seem to be fading in today's fast-paced world. Our conversation touches on the significance of faith, whether it's rooted in religion or a broader spiritual belief, and how it can guide us through life's challenges.

Our day continued with a hearty carvery meal and witnessing the Martin Jennings Memorial Bike Ride, a spectacular event with over a thousand motorbikes. We reflect on the sense of community and the joy of shared experiences.

In a lighter segment, we share humorous anecdotes about funerals and the unexpected moments that bring laughter even in solemn situations. We also touch on the rapid advancement of AI technology, its implications for jobs, and the potential future it holds.

Join us for a heartfelt and entertaining hour as we explore life's big questions, share personal stories, and enjoy some uplifting music interludes.

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Good evening.   Can you hear me? Hello? Can you hear me? I can.   I can. Cool. I thought I'd get you on a couple of minutes before we start and then I don't have to do the whole phone call. You're already there. Like I am already here.   Are you alright, Lovely?  

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Yeah. I am. I had a little siesta.  

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Oh, I did as well.  

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Did you? Yeah. God, you need it after eating all of that, don't you? I know. I know. I feel like it's been a really busy day.  

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I know.  

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It's been a good day, though.  

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It has been a good day. I've pooped, but it's been a good day. Yeah. Good. Good.  

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I I actually quite enjoyed this morning. I'll talk about it a bit more in a minute, but,   Nebeshadeza.   No. Shebadanessa.   Nebeshadnezzar.   I think that's it. Nebeshadnezzar. I don't know. I don't know. Nebeshadnezzar.  

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Is that it? That's it. Nebeshadnezzar.   Yeah. Okay. That's what we're going with then. Did you get any music sorted?  

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I found that song,   and I also found the song how great thou art. How great thou art.   That is such a beautiful song, and I'm gonna learn it for my oldies. I quite often play it.   So we'll have a couple of little music breaks.  

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I've interludes.  

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Interludes.   So, yeah,   everything's set up. Everything's ready to go.  

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Okay. Cool. Wait till  

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6:59   and 50 seconds.  

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Oh, you've timed it right to the second. Well, it's got to be.  

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So what I need to do is change the clock. Are you on your computer or your phone?  

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I'm on my phone, but I've got my laptop on.  

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Alright. Well, in the corner, it says the time, doesn't it? But it doesn't display the seconds.   So every week, I bring up, like, the Ah, yes. Date and time. I wanna try and sort that properly because otherwise, I've got this other screen up just so I can get it bang on and press all my knobs.   Oh.   Pressing my knobs. Knobs. Because that that's when I get in a panic because I've gotta, like, press play on POD home   on Rumble   and then  

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play the play the theme tune. Bloody hell. Loads. Well, we're 18:59.  

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6 seconds. Right. I'll speak to you in a second, my lovely. Alright? Alrighty. Too little dude.   Good evening to all the women out there and the occasional gentlemen listening in too. You are listening to women's hour coming live out of radiosoapbox.com.   It's good to have your company.   I am also streaming live on Rumble. If you wanted to ask any questions, leave any comments. And welcome to Women's Hour.   Today's date is Sunday, 15th September   2024.   And we've got a good hour lined up, people, because Jo is not at work this week. So we have a full hour with Jo.   Okay? So I'm quite excited, actually, even though I've spent most of the day with her already.  

But we never find never run out of things to talk about. Good evening, miss Jo.  

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Hello.   Hello again.  

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I know. It's been all, what, 3 hours since I saw you last?  

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Too long, Shelley. Too long. But, yes, yes, we have spent the day together, and it's been glorious.  

[00:12:29] Unknown:

It has, hasn't it? And, dear listeners that listened in last week,   Jackie was in for the second half of the show who is the pastor's wife at the local church.   And, anyway, Jo was messaging me, and she said, we need a bit of Jackie. We need to go to that church, so we're going.   So we went.   And what an experience.  

[00:12:53] Unknown:

It was indeed,   fantastic   welcome, though, wasn't it? The moment we walked in the door, it was   all smiles and excitement. Hello. How are you?   Are you new? Are you visiting? Very, very welcoming. Very welcoming.  

[00:13:10] Unknown:

Lovely.   And not your traditional type of church   at all.   No. It won't. At all. And that's not in a bad way at all.   Like you said, everybody was so welcoming,   and it was just I don't know what I was expecting.   I saw the guitar at the front and the microphone and stuff, and I love a bit of happy clappy.   But they they don't do hymns anymore, do they? Not not hymn hymns. No. No.  

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I mean, thank goodness they had the words up on the screen, Shelley, because I would have been lost.  

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Yeah. I would have been as well.   And they were interesting songs. I mean, we we sang for, like, half an hour, didn't we? At least. At least. The first half an hour, everybody stood up singing.   And, like I say, all this modern   singer y and stuff,   words on the screen. And then there was the last song that we had to literally start clapping, didn't we?  

[00:14:07] Unknown:

Yes. I mean,   it it was   it was one of those cases where,   you know, as time went on, you kind of got more comfortable   to the point where   if you weren't joining in,   you were the odd one out. Do you know what I mean? Absolutely.   So, yeah, it it was an enjoyable time.   It was nice to see,   you know, because they're an evangelistic  

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church, aren't they? So What does that mean?  

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Well, you know, they are a Christian   faith, but they're more   more easygoing.  

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Very easygoing. Yeah. Yeah. More easygoing,  

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more casual, where I think, you know, the Church of England, as everybody would, you know,   probably be aware of, you know, you go to church   early on a Sunday morning. The vicar basically stands in the pulpit. He gives his sermon,   reading from passages within the Bible. You'll sing a couple of hymns,   and that'll be about it. But this was very,   very laid back, but still   still   faith based.   But it was just you know, I don't wanna say it was like, you know, having a chat with your friends down the pub because it most certainly wasn't. No. But it was sociable.   Yes. Very sociable.  

Very sociable.   You know? And what about the little toddler, you know, walking around at the front? So cute. Yes.   Yeah. You know, you would you wouldn't have that in the church, would you? That that almost would be frowned upon.  

[00:15:48] Unknown:

And you could go and get yourself a cup of tea or what have you at any time. Yeah. Very relaxed.   I I think it's that sort of atmosphere actually that welcomes people back, isn't it? Because I would like to go again.   You know, I know I did have a giggling attack, and I will tell you know, this was no disrespect to anybody else, and I wanna be careful how I phrase it because I wouldn't want to offend   anyone. There there was a character who was very,   hallelujah, every 2 minutes. Very animated.   Yes. Yes.   And, he was lovely. He was one of the first ones actually that came into us   and introduced himself, shook our hands, and everything.  

And, you know, you feel guilty when you get these giggling attacks because, like, I've been thinking about it, and it's like, I'm not laughing   at him as such. I don't think I am   because I think good for you   singing your praise and feeling so in love with your belief Yeah. That you're able to express it in that one place. Because, I mean, I'm sure he doesn't go walking down the street doing things like that, but he's with his friends, worship him. Yeah. I'd hope not. But, but he was worshiping. He was in love with his god, wasn't he?  

[00:17:01] Unknown:

He was. He was very   and do you know what I was quite surprised,   almost shocked about?   He was really quite knowledgeable,   you know, because   I can kind of   work it out in a matter of   seconds.   But when when a vicar or when a pastor says,   oh, I'm gonna read from   Daniel verse   5   19 or whatever. You know, momentarily,   you're like, what on earth are you talking about?   But if you've got the bible in front of you, you kind of work it out that, you know,   as opposed to saying   page 19   paragraph 2, it's kind of done in a different way. But,   the gentleman who was quite animated   knew his   knew his Psalms. He knew his book of the bible.  

He knew what story to go to, Daniel or Luke or and,   yeah, he was quite knowledgeable.  

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He was. And I think where I struggle with church and, I mean, I really tried to concentrate. And perhaps I tried to concentrate too much because,   you know, if he was to go to a normal church, they would spend probably an hour and a half just reading from the Bible.   And I think that the way the Bible was written,   it's hard work to read and understand.   So today, we talked about, right, don't crucify me, listeners.   Nebuchadnezzar,   I think I've said that right. Okay.   Now interestingly, I got just of   the story, the reading,   and I googled it to make it easier.  

So,   Nebuchadnezzar,   was historically remembered mainly for destroying Jerusalem in 586   BC   and moving the Israelites to Babylon as slaves.   The king is also noted for putting Shadrach, Meshach, and Abenitlu   in the fiery furnace for refusing to worship a golden idol and for being made animal like by God and forced to crawl on his hands and knees.   Now   to me, because I don't get what they're saying, like, in the church, because   if any, they could just read a paragraph like that   and add a few pictures,   perhaps they should you know, this is no   criticism because these people have been studying God perhaps all of their lives, and it is a study, isn't it? You think the Bible there's not just one Bible.  

It's the book of Daniel, the book of all of this. Yeah.   And it's quite it wow. You know, you   the way he made it sound today today, he said about the statue that Nebuchadnezzar   made out of gold and stuff like that. His description was great, but it made me want to really think, well, who is this Nebuchadnezzar?   And, like Yeah. Talking to my mum, she was like, oh, I know that story. And she went to bible, sorry. She went to Sunday school every Sunday as a child. So she knows she knows so much about the bible, but they're stories that we don't talk about anymore, aren't they?  

[00:20:10] Unknown:

Yeah. The I mean,   I think, you know, you've hit the nail right on the head, the Church of England   or any perceived   traditional churches.   It's very difficult to follow   what the vicar or what the pastor   or whoever is standing up there is talking about.   But,   the gentleman   that was given the service   today was basically given it to you in layman terms that it was easy to understand. So the 3 gentlemen that you've just named in that passage,   again, don't   don't persecute me, listeners. I'm not quite sure I've got this right. But I think they were brothers,   and if they weren't brothers, they were very good friends.  

But they had basically   disobeyed, haven't they, the king?   And, you know, just said, well, no. We're not doing that. So, you know, you do whatever you feel that you need to do because,   we know that we've got our place   within,  

[00:21:17] Unknown:

you know, people in Christ's heaven. Law. Following God's law, which I loved because all of the stuff that me and you are into,   politics, activism, and the way the world is going,   so much of it,   well, it should be under God's law.   Yeah. Yeah. Like he was saying, the king sent them out to go in the fire and stuff like that. And he mentioned, like,   the ladies,   just as an example, that were supposed to murder   all of the babies.   And even though their king told them to do that, they followed God's law, not the king's law.  

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Yeah. It it's really   you know, it was   a story of following God's law, following the true law,   which is God's law, and having the courage of your convictions   to stand there   and say, no. This isn't correct. I'm not going to do that, come what may.   And I think, you know, crikey, if you if you ended   up worse off   through   not obeying   whatever,   you have a clear conscience. And god forbid, you know, that you ended up   not of this world anymore,   but you would pass   with a clear conscience. Yes. And I think I think,   you know, that has a lot   that carries a lot of weight because I   clearly, I can't speak from experience, but I could only imagine if you passed over.  

And, again, I think we share   similar beliefs that   I'm not quite sure that I am a believer in Jesus Christ and God. I think it's more of a   a frequency,   more of a   not a vibe. I'd An energy. An energy. Yes. I I really don't know what.   But I I would imagine if you passed   with a tormented   conscience   or   or of a thought of, oh, I shouldn't have done that. I should have chosen better. Could you imagine how tormented   you must be? And, again, I'm only imagining.  

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No. I think you're right. I can always remember my mom telling me a story years ago about somebody that she was sitting with in hospital, and he was, like, near the end.   And he was saying that he had he'd had a fling with a woman,   and he was desperately heartbroken, and he wanted   to tell her. And I don't know. I don't think he did tell her, but his conscience was going. It's now and probably not that I just wanna go to heaven, but I'm eating up with stuff that   haven't really don't resonate with me now. Yeah.  

[00:24:01] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. In that inner conscience. And and I think, you know, that is following God's law as the pastor said today. It's,  

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you know sat on that man's sick bed now, would you say, yeah. Right. I think you should tell her.  

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Yeah. Yeah. I do. I I I absolutely would.   I absolutely would. And I would  

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So I'd want think I'd want to save the pain and say, look. She doesn't need to know about that now. It's done. It's done. You've gotta forgive yourself. Okay.  

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But let's turn that on its head. Who are you actually saying that for? Yourself or for the gentleman?   Because you don't want to see that gentleman   struggle in his last minutes with his conscience.   But, you know, it's not alleviating   his soul, is it? His soul is still gonna pass over   and perhaps be tormented that he never   set the record straight with this woman   or   whoever. Whereas, if we were the carer sitting there   saying, oh, I'm sure she doesn't need to know. I'm sure it's absolutely fine. You know, I question the fact of who would we actually be doing that for? Who would we actually be trying to calm   with those words? Would it be ourselves? Because we don't wanna see this person that's about to die, you know,   mentally and emotionally struggle   in their last moments.  



[00:25:28] Unknown:

I know. But you hear of these things, don't you, that you find mind mind you, people find out all the time secrets that happened   with people that they've loved, and it's like, well, they bumble on through, don't they? But Well, they do. I mean,  

[00:25:41] Unknown:

you know, sort of going off piece slightly,   you know, there's I'm not quite sure what the saying is, but it's like, well, I guess it's based on that film, 4 Weddings and a Funeral, isn't it?   And have you ever seen that film? Yes. Yeah. So, like, all secrets and skeletons come out of the cupboards. And, honestly,   it's so true. I mean, I've been,   well, you know, we've all been to weddings of funerals, but there are several that stick out in my own mind.   And 2 were funerals,   and they were family funerals.   Oh my goodness. The skeletons that come out of the closet about family members, and I'm like, sorry. Say that again. You know, my aunt my aunt, I have 2 aunts.  

Clearly, I love them dearly, but one is my favorite.   Apparently, she had a former life before   she had the life that I know that she's got now. It's like she's got 2 children in Australia.   She was married at the age of 17.   And I'm like, why did nobody tell me this? I thought I only had the cousins that I've got. No. Apparently not. I only found that out about 10 years ago.   And my aunt is   70   70 4, 75.  

[00:27:02] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, I suppose they, like, brush it under the carpet, don't they? It's like the amount of children that were brought up   as, like, parents' children when actually it was, like, one of the children that got pregnant.   You hear of that as well, don't you? Yeah.  

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Yeah. And then another one,   another family member,   and it's my dad's aunt, so I guess it would be my great son.   And this is sort of going back to World War 2.   She had a son.   Fine. Okay. I wasn't born. I knew nothing of that.   And I've always known my aunt as   Rosina   and her husband,   Vic.   They're no longer with us now, so I can quite happily name them. But I always thought Vic   was   Rosina's   son's   father,   you know, that the boy was Vic's.   No.   No. No.   No. No. She unfortunately   married   I don't know.   He was a foreigner over in England to help him fight the war.   He   wasn't a very nice man.  

He was very violent towards her. So my   dad's dad, my granddad,   and some of his friends,   because   my dad's dad,   which was my grandfather,   it was his sister.   Okay?   He had to get him and his mates to go round   and scare this guy off,   you know, and and and he just kinda disappeared. I don't think anything come towards happened,   but he had left my aunt.   And she then discovered she was pregnant, went on to have the boy,   and   everybody just thought the boy was his uncle, Vicks.   And that only came out about, again, 10 years ago.   I'm like, I don't wanna go to any more funerals because I keep finding out all these skeletons that nobody's bothered to tell me about in the family.  



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No.   I do like a good funeral,   and I've been to quite a few lately because of my job. And I just love the fact that you find out about these people,   you know, because I'm, you know, I'm in the care home and I look after them and stuff, but I don't know a lot about them. And I love so many of them. I've done so many things.   And one guy's funeral that I went to, I wish I could remember the song, but he had, like, the funkiest,   rockiest   tune when they carried the coffin in. And you you wanted to dance.  

[00:29:43] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. You see, that's what I would want. I I mean,   sometimes when I'm driving along and then, you know, a piece of music comes on the radio, and I'm like, do you know what? Yes. That's always been my favorite song.   You know, that's what I want. That's what I want at my funeral. I think my  

[00:30:01] Unknown:

entrance   song would have to be   jump around House of Pain.   Oh, really? Yeah. I love that song. I love that song. And I would love everybody to get up and be like, yay. Let's have a party. Let's celebrate.   You know?   Wow. I suppose this modern times, isn't it, for you? Because   funeral services as well, if you have cremations these days, the services are only, like, 30 minutes.  

[00:30:24] Unknown:

Well, they are. They are. I mean, I do have a slightly funny story about cremations.   25 years ago, a lady lived down the road from my mom and dad. Lovely lady. Her name was Edna.   And,   we had to walk past her house to get to my parents' house. So   when my daughter was young, a toddler, you know, old people, they love children, don't they? And they always come out and they make a fuss.   And anyway, this lady, Edna, died.   And,   you know, I brought my daughter up never to hide anything,   you know, very black and white.   If you have an issue with it, if you're disturbed by it,   that's great, you know. Come and talk to me about it. Don't don't hold it in. So I decided   at age probably   3, 3a half, it'd be a really good experience to take her to a funeral and a crematorium.  

And,   it was great because I had to pick her up from nursery.   Naturally, I was running late and   got to the crematorium,   what I thought was just in time, but it wasn't.   Now unknown to me, because I've never been to a crematorium before, they've got several different rooms, haven't they? Well, we flew into one, and it wasn't even the right one. Oh, no. I know. I know. I was like, oh, that's not a good start, is it? So we sort of, you know and this toddler, like, ran off in front of me into the room. So I had to go halfway into somebody else's crematorium service   to grab my child,   to pull her out. But it didn't stop there. When we went next door to the right one and sort of, you know, the curtains are gradually   being pulled around. You know, my daughter speaks up, I wanna see Edna. I wanna see her before the fire eats her. I was like, oh my goodness, Meg. Oh my goodness, Meg. Love it. When I went to out of the mouths of babes. You know? Yeah. You can't hide that. Problem.  



[00:32:29] Unknown:

They're just innocent. And I could say the same actually about   Google Maps. When I went to a funeral a few months ago,   I used Google Maps to get to the   church. And then when I arrived, I had no signal or anything.   So I switched my phone on silent, but for some reason, maps will continue to talk, which I never knew. Yes. Yes. So I had my phone. I mean, I got there and I sat down, and I'm like, the noisiest person full of car keys and everything like that gets sorted.   They bring the coffin up through the middle,   and then my phone says, you have reached your final destination.  

Oh.   I've ran out of that. I ran out of there and just left my phone in the hallway. I mean, nobody else would have heard it, but   it is it's a funny thing though, isn't it? Because,   like, my son, when my nan passed recently a few months ago, Piran didn't want to go to the funeral.   But on the day that I went to see her in the,   what do you call it, mortuary house Yep.   He wanted to come.  

[00:33:36] Unknown:

Wow.  

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I think I think we all get and I was like, no. If you're not coming to the funeral and I was thinking because part of me did think, well, perhaps this could be a learn a good learning experience.   And then Yeah. Afterwards, I was thinking, what, showing a 10 year old a dead body?  

[00:33:50] Unknown:

Well, I don't know. I mean, it's like life and death. You know? Well, we're fascinated by it, aren't we? Let's face it.   But then, I I mean, my own experience   with my daughter is   it's not that it teaches you respect, but you have   respect for life. You   you know, obviously, at a young age, you don't verbalize it. You sense it more, but you realize   that   it isn't something to be taken for granted. And, again, I'll give you a very brief   brief story.   We had a cat. The cat died. It was old.   And, if anybody knows me, they know that I am that crazy cat lady. And when I get really, really old, I shall have a house full of them. Oh, I'm only visiting you.   And,   you know, several months passed and I said to my daughter, oh, you know, shall we get another cat? She was mortified. She looked at me and she said,   that's disgusting.  

You don't replace a life with a life.   Have some morals and decency about you. She was mortified. I even mentioned it. And I just thought,  

[00:35:03] Unknown:

no. Actually, she's right. You know, you don't replace a life for a life. You don't. No. And you can. I think I did that with my dog that I've got now. I got him a little bit too soon after losing my dog,   and I expected him   to be the same as my dog. And he was nothing like my dog.   And it and it took us a long time to bond, to be fair.   But it made me realize you just think it's gonna fill that gap.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Nothing can replace it. But even now, like, my nan's ashes are at mum's on her wardrobe.   And I got them down the other day,   and, we were sat in the lounge, and I was like, do you wanna have a look? So I'm opening this bag. And you see, I've never seen a bag of ashes before.  



[00:35:46] Unknown:

Well, yeah. It it's like a hoover bag, isn't it? It's the same material.  

[00:35:50] Unknown:

Well, it's not material. It's like that sort of currency paper. Yeah. But, I mean, they're presented wow. They're in a lovely bag inside a box, and then that's inside, like, a proper bag.   So I was like, do you wanna look, dad? And he was like, no. And then he went, go go on. I will have a look. Anyway, it was, Piren's birthday last week, and we're like, it's not the same without nana. And I said, you should have bought that bag and put it down in the middle of the table   because she would have loved that.   Yeah. And Yeah. We're gonna, scatter the ashes on her husband's grave on her what would have been her 100th birthday in December. Wow. That I want a scoop of those ashes. I don't know why, but I'm gonna have scoop. Well, you know, yeah. Or what?  



[00:36:31] Unknown:

No.   No. No. No. It isn't.   You know, I've already said to my mom and dad, no. The ashes will be coming to live with me. And my dad's very easygoing. He's like, yeah. Whatever. I I don't care. I won't be here. And I said, okay. Well, that's fine. You know,   you're not gonna be on display.   You'll live in my wardrobe with the cat.   So the cat the cat was cremated.   I wanted to have him stuffed, and everybody said that was awful. Oh, that is. And I it isn't. I I can't understand   why people think that's just   not   you know? No.  

You know, that that that was part of the family, and I wanted to have the cat with me all the time. Anyway, you know, the cat was cremated.   He lives in my cupboard with my shoes. So I was saying this to my mom and dad, and he's like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's fine. My mom was like, I'm telling you now. You do not put me in a box.   You you, you know, you stand on a cliff top somewhere and and you sprinkle my ashes so I can travel. And I was   like, no. We need to come to some agreement because I can't do that. I have to keep you with me. And she said, okay. Well, you can just, like, have a scoop. And I said,  

[00:37:46] Unknown:

well, that might be a scoop of part of you that I don't Yeah. A foot or something. Of you. That's what I'm just thinking about now. Do they shake it up?   Or is it just like,   well, you know, I was looking in that bag, and it was like, I can't believe this is my nan.   Yeah. Yeah. So have you still got your cat's ashes?   Yes. Yeah. So when I helped you move house, we carried a dead cat's ashes as well. You did indeed. You did indeed.  

[00:38:12] Unknown:

Yeah. Because he would have been the last thing to leave the house. Oh gosh.   Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, he's happy in the shoe cupboard now, so that's that's absolutely fine.   Mom, no. No. You know? So So We've gotta  

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we've gotta laugh about these things, and I I don't wanna go on to the top topic, really, of laughter in a little bit because,   my god, did I have a giggle attack today?   And I don't know if it was nerves or whatever, but when I go, I go, and it's almost always in the worst place.   And   they were just about to break the bread or something,   and that was it. I couldn't stop. And Joe thought that I was having a  

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youthful you also.  

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Oh, I think it was that man with his hallelujahs.   Okay. And then it but then I don't know if it was a nervous laugh as well.   And   I just could not what I said to you.   I could not stop. And then you thought that I was crying because I'd been filled with God's love, and I was all emotional.   And then you were, like, rummaging in your handbag because I was thinking, oh, no. If Joe goes as well, we're we're both just gonna have to leave. We're both gonna have to leave. And other people were looking behind. Are you alright? And I'm like, yeah. Yeah.   Just stop. Oh my goodness. But we do need a laugh, and I do laugh at the most inappropriate moments.  



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Yeah. I mean, mind you, you you did   you did conceal it well. You did. Because,   like you said, I initially thought, oh my goodness. You know, you're you're   having a moment. You're crying. But,   yeah, you you were fine.  

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It was fun. It was fun. And I did I did enjoy it. And I think what I got from it as well,   although I didn't really understand   his interpretation   of   Nebuchadnezzar,   I've come home and looked a little bit more into it. And I know before, somebody's told me you can,   download, like, bible studies,   and you can listen to it daily or something. I wouldn't mind to do that because I feel like I've missed out because I never went to Sunday school. Not that I would have wanted to probably at the time.   But even the stories that we were told as children in assemblies,   you know, they don't do that anymore. No religion, is there?  



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Do they not have assemblies where they speak about I don't think so. I don't think so.  

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But, you know, look awful. The hymns that we sung and I always remember our, the head teacher. He would once a week tell us a bible story, and my favorite one was   the the great Samaritan,   the good Samaritan.   And then there was a hymn. I don't know if you know it.   Cross over the road, my friend,   Ask the lord his strength to lend.   His compassion   has no end.   Cross over the road. Do you know that one?  

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I don't, Shelley, I'm afraid.  

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And I'm really into, like, my hymns sort of songs at the moment. And because I'm, like, singing to the elderly at work,   I can kind of,   well, they would have been into their hymns. And I think there's a niche out there because   it's not the sort of thing people go around doing. But their generation, they know the songs.  

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They don't. They they certainly don't do that. And,   it needs to come back.   You know, it I think   values   and morals   needs to come back, and it's almost as if we need to turn back time. You know? We we've accelerated   at such a speed   that we've lost all sense of   community,   purpose,   helping one another,   slowing down at the weekends,   you know, taking   stock of what we've done during the week, and being thankful   for our family   and for our health.   And I think   I think   those values and those morals   were   very, very   subtly,   not installed,   but you were taught the right way.  

You were taught god's law   at school,   like we've just said, with assemblies, you know. And as teenagers,   you always winger moan about it, don't you? But it's something that you've   you've left school with, you've carried   with you the, oh, yeah. Do you remember when we used to go to assembly and we would sing hymns?   You you you have that faith based   deep in your soul.   And now   children that   do go to school,   they don't have that. And I think that's a travesty.   They they should have something   that they've got,   you know, a safe thing. You're right.  

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So I'll tell you what, with no further ado, let's play a hymn, one of my favorite ones that I'm going to learn.   Quite a well known one, but you probably won't know it because we sang a segment of it earlier, like, bought into the more modern way.   Right? So this is how great thou art. Enjoy it. It's about 4 minutes.   There. What did you think of that?   Lovely. Have you heard it before?  

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No.  

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And by the way, listeners, don't worry. This isn't going to get into a massive weekly, religious   thing.   However, I am very interested in,   all of this stuff. And, you know, by chatting to Jackie last week, spurred me and Joe along, and we've had a lovely morning out, to be fair.   And then we went on does. Yeah. We went on and had a carvery.   We we've had a great day. And I know it's been a busy day because my bed's upstairs, and it's still not been made.  

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But Shame on you.  

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Oh, when you left, I just crashed out on the couch. It's exhausting going to church   and eating eating all that food.  

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Yes. But then we were out in the fresh air watching   the Jennings  

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bike ride. Is that what it's called? Yeah. The Martin Jennings run. And for you listeners,   there was a man who died in a motorcycle   competition, I believe, quite a few years back now. So now there's a memorial bike ride every year.   And I'm fortunate that I live on the road where they all congregate and they have a minute silence, but,   I I don't know how many motorbikes there were. Probably about a 1,000, do you think?  

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I yeah. Definitely   definitely a1000   something.   I mean, there was a lot.   I've I've videoed for 5 minutes,   and that wasn't even   half of the bikes that had passed us.   No.   It was huge.   I've never   seen anything like it in my life before.   I know they sort of do it all over the states,   and I've seen a couple of them when I've been out there.   And there's been a lot,   but I would say not anywhere near amount  

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that we saw today. Yeah. It's it's quite an amazing sight, isn't it? Isn't it? Sorry. In it.  

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In it. In it. In it. Yeah. And there was all types, you know, all different types of bikes. You know?   And I didn't realize there was such a variation   on Harley Davidson bikes. I just thought it was a standard   sort of shaped bike, but no. I I I learned a little thing there that   they come in all shapes and sizes, the Harley Davidsons.  

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They do. They do. I'm not a big bike lover, to be fair,   but it was it was a sight. It was really nice, and it must be quite a moment.   So I think next year, we should, like, try and find a couple of bikers to sit on the back with  

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and do do the run. I'm a bit scared maybe then. Where do where do they start from, or where do they finish?  

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I think they start at Truro at the park and ride site.   Right. And then I'm not sure when they finish. Probably the same place.   I could be totally wrong, but, yeah, I'll have a look at some of the pictures I did earlier. So So do peep people raise sponsorship for anything? Do they pay to enter it? Do you know? I don't know. I haven't got a clue. It's just something that's been happening for years. And since I live since I've lived in Beacon,   I'm lucky I just go and sit in my drive and watch the view and watch the congregation.   Yeah. I mean, there was, wasn't there? It was lovely. Yeah. And then after all of that, it was about 4 o'clock. You left, and it was like, right. It's time to have a little nap on the couch.  

And I set my alarm for 6 o'clock.   And I was like, no. No. Yeah. Well, admittedly,  

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I I I sat on the couch. Oh, how bad is this? I thought, oh,   oh, I fancy a hot water bottle.   So that's what I did. Got a hot water bottle   in the dressing gown. I mean, we've had that conversation about dressing gowns before, but, you know, me me old faithful, fleecy one wrapped myself up with a hot water bottle, and I fell asleep.  

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Lovely.   Lovely. You can't beat a Sunday nap, and   it was actually something to get out of bed for today as well. I mean, I know what you're like. Usually, you would have a day at home, and it'll be, what have you done, Jo? And it's like, I haven't even got dressed. Yeah. My phone all day. Yeah. You got out, and you said you had something to get up for, didn't you? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And that was good. That was nice.  

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You know? It's a nice change. Yes. Yeah. It didn't it didn't take long to get there.   Yeah. It it really was nice to be able to get up. And I was thinking about that on the way home, you know, the, well, if I hadn't have done that, what if I what would I have done today? You've just illustrated it and said, Jo, you would have done nothing. You would have done nothing.   I I absolutely wouldn't have done it. It would have been a waste.   You know?  

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So just a quick question. Now that you've got a laptop, do you sit there more at home on your laptop? Are you still mainly on your phone?  

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I'm still mainly on my phone, which I'm surprised about.   You know, part of the reason why I got the laptop was   I don't know. Did you see did you see my   archaic   computer system?   I don't I think I may have moved it over before you   sort of came and picked me up off the bedroom floor crying like a baby saying I couldn't do it anymore when I moved.   But it's very, very old.   My monitor was even like a TV screen. You know? It had the big box at the back of it type thing. So I was like, you know what? I'm so fed up with doing things on my phone. I'm gonna get myself a laptop,   which I did, and I thought I would have been on it all the time.  

I've had it probably for about 6 weeks, and I've probably been on it 3, maybe 4 times. That's   terrible.  

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Oh, I suppose it's what you do, isn't it? I mean, I I use both. I tend to sit at my Mac in the evenings, but, oh, I had a cleanse last night. My god did I achieve.   I put just my desktop   full of stuff, my emails. Yes. I have   so many emails that it's like I don't know what to do with them. So I put them in folders. I categorized them last night. Wow.   Wow. I know. Exciting. And then I think when I finished, I had 3 emails left in there that, I thought, well, I need those.  

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How long did that take you to do? It took me about an hour.  

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But I've been wanting to do it for ages, and there is something about a clean screen because, like, when I'm downloading songs and converting them and moving them over, my desktop is   like. You know? Yeah. And now when I do researching, instead of,   writing things down, like, I am that person that's got, like, a 4 by 5 notebook and,   oh, I'll research stuff with all these little pages.   Now I've started opening notes   and just copy and pasting stuff and links to websites, and I'm like, wow. I'm with the modern world.   But Yeah. If there is a crash in the system, my research, everything will be gone.  



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Oh, gosh. Don't don't tempt fate. Don't tempt fate. Yeah. I am a pen and paper type girl,   but I do have notes on my phone.   But just a word from the wise, you'll be using notes and you'll keep making notes. And then when you go back to look for said note, you can't find it because there's so many goddamn notes that have gone after. No. They're in categories, Jo. I've categorized them. They all have titles.   Wow.   Oh my gosh. You're really good. I know. I know. I've got I take your breaks.   I don't know. I was probably, you know,   2a half, 3000   emails   that I couldn't even tell you what they are. And, yeah, I get what you're saying. You know, a clean email box is great. And I already have folders.  

You know? I've I've been light years ahead. I've had   folders in my email box for for donkey's years,   but I am   working myself up to just pushing the delete button on all of the emails Yeah.   And taking   taking it upon myself that, well, if there was something really important there that somebody was trying to get hold of me,   Tough luck.  

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All what I've done before when I've had that many,   I go through and I tick all the ones that I think I ought to keep, and I move them to a new folder,   and then I delete everything else   quicker way. Well, that's a good that that is yes. Because of all these techno tips, I don't have to worry about. Yeah.   Yeah. Something I had to share, and I know I told you about this earlier, but,   Darren found this chart. And we're talking about AI because   AI   is everything   at the moment, and I do use AI for writing things and stuff like that. But it was just this chart that shows   how I think it was   Netflix. It took, like, 10 years to get a 1000000 subscribers.  

Facebook, it took 4 years,   and GBT   chat took 2 months.   That's just crazy, isn't it? Yeah. So there's so many people using it now, and I was surprised when we were talking to the photographer earlier that he was saying now that couple of the local newspapers,   you know, they're using the AI to write up their stuff.   And so, I mean, soon,   as well as not needing photographers anymore because people just send in their pictures, they've got no need to pay anyone.   Soon,   journalists could potentially be out of job for newspapers and stuff, wouldn't it? I mean, their work will be they'll be doing, like, 10 times the amount of work   in, like, a quarter of the time, not even a quarter of the time. Yeah. Just write 2 sentences of what you wanna put up or even speak it   and  

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there it is. Yeah. Which is great. You know? I'm all about I'm all about, you know, convenience,   making my life easier.   Yes. Thank you very much. I'll have a little bit of that. However, you've just illustrated   journalists,   photographers, they'd be out of the job. So then what happens? Well, it's they're out. It's coming. Yeah. They're they're out of a job.   What do they do?   They start claiming benefits,   which is even more of a strain on the system because there isn't a job for them to go to. I think your friend, the photographer, said today that one of the guys, a photographer,   has gone down   to Penzance   Council,   and he is some sort of   I don't know. I I don't know what he said. Oh, he's just given given up his photography job? Yeah.  



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Because there's no I just got   Yeah. Wow.  

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That you know, what what's it coming to? The   human beings are gonna be redundant.   And then what what do we do? Where do we get our money from to buy food and to keep shelter?  

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I never looked at it that way that, actually, all these people then that will be made redundant   will be obviously on our benefit system.   But then perhaps that will fit in with the whole agenda 2030 plan of you will have nothing to have everything.  

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Yes. Yeah. And, yeah, you took my words right out my mouth. Yeah. You know, it's almost like,   you know, you can kick, scream, and shout against it, but it's gonna happen one way or another. You will own nothing and you will be happy.   And when we throw you those crumbs of shelter and food,   you'll take it. And therein lies your 15 minute city centers, you know, where you'll be   living in literally the size of a rabbit box, one on top of the other,   and you'll be bloody grateful for it because you've got shelter,   because you've got no money, because you've got no job to provide yourself with anything different.  



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Yeah. And it is going that way. It really is. I've been you know, this whole chat GPT thing and the AI,   I mean, I can't believe that it's taken them 2 months to get a   1000000 subscribers.   And I can remember interviewing Patrick on my show,   not Patrick. Sorry. Howard   a year ago when first introducing me to GPT. Yes. Yeah. And I typed I typed in the name of my show   and to create a theme song.   And within, like, 30 seconds, it created a whole dialogue for some music for my show.   Yeah. Scary how quick it moves, isn't it? It is. It is. But we were talking about the other night when I spoke to somebody,   about the problems with AI,   the fact that, you know, things that we're not allowed to say and do, let's just say like hate speech,   Somebody could record something,   put your voice to it,   put it out there. How are they gonna prove that it's AI and not you?  

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

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I mean and and you see a lot of   memes now, don't you? Video memes   that they've   taken the heads of some politician,   and they've put it onto   a woman that perhaps isn't wearing much.   And it is seamless.   You know, absolutely   seamless. You don't see any joints from the neck to the body.   The woman is move or the lips are moving   in time with whatever is being said   or   sung.   Yeah. And that's been generated by sort of the computer and the aid of AI.  

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Well, I use it sometimes. I've tried. I don't know enough yet when I use it in Photoshop and Lightroom,   but it comes as part of, like, my monthly package. I have tried once, like, typed in black background and I've had all these weird things happen.   But I've watched videos how people just literally circle   an object really difficult to cut in and stuff, and they just ping with a bottom with a button.   Done. You know? So is a photographer even a photographer anymore?  

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It's yeah.   I mean, like I said, it's great. I love it. It's convenient,   like a bit of that in my   life. But in the same breath,   I think it goes back to what we were saying at the opening of the show and, you know,   assemblies in school.   Where are the traditional values? Where is that grounding?   Where is that   where is that route that   your soul   feels  

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stable.  

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There there isn't with AI. Everything is so fast. It's so quick. It's it's it's,   you know,   what was new today will be old tomorrow. Whereas if you had   if you had   not not so much faith, but if you had   if you were rooted in a in a in a firm belief that that stems from values and morals,   I think life would be a lot better.   And do we need to forsake   AI   and the fast paced environment   to   to foster   what we once   were.   Because you can't deny,   you know, 20 odd years ago, it was a much   nicer place than what it is now.  

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Oh, definitely. Definitely.   But it it makes me wonder as well, like, the technology that we have. I mean, we're nowhere near what the government and the stuff they've got to use. No. Yeah. So how far advanced are we really?  

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And and and that's that's a scary thought, isn't it? That's a scary what was oh, the Terminator, that film, the Terminator,   and Sarah Connor   and her son. You know? I mean, was there some sort of crazy   message in there for humanity? Well, actually,   AI is gonna take over, and humanity,   you know, is   better get good at running because these things are gonna come after you.   You know? Who knows? Absolutely.  

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And I'm a bit like, a kick the thought keeps coming and it keeps going. What was I gonna say?   Oh, you know, like, the algorithms and stuff when you type something in and it appears on your feed on Facebook or emails, anything.   But I actually think it's already gone that step further that we're communicating somehow with our phones   because I think things now, and they appear on my phone.  

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Yeah. You you had said that a while back, didn't you? I mean, periodically   I mean,   maybe once a year, I could say   that's happened   to me. I've thought something, and then I'm like, oh, that's happened. And, you know, over the last 4 years, I've gone,   oh,   okay. That's not just a coincidence   anymore, is it?  

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No. No. It is I think it's I think it's fascinating as well because what if AI grows so big, but they also then become,   what's the word, like a living entity?  

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Yeah. And that's what it is, an entity.   And, again, sort of, you know, taking it back to faith,   what happens then?   Are we are we not   made in the eyes of   God   because we   are half   of another entity. We're not fully human.   We're not the child of God anymore. We're not made in his eye.   That that's an alarming thought.  

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Oh, it is. I've got a book. It's somewhere at 21 things for the 21st century. I'm gonna have to read it again because somebody was actually predicting that you could more or less plug into a machine, and, it would tell you if you're gay and things like that.   Yeah. Oh my god.   Genes and stuff like that. Who knows? Crazy things going on out there. Crazy stuff.  

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It is crazy.   It's a crazy world, and   it's,   you know,   I don't know what the answer is. I don't know what the answer is other than to,   again, I'll take it back to Faith, and I'll take it back to the gentleman that,   you know, is very enthusiastic.   I think, you know, perhaps   it's more a case of   being happy and confident   in   in your faith, whatever your chosen faith is. Because I think that's the only thing that's really gonna keep   humanity   sane is if they have   faith.   If they have a belief system that is so strong   that when they pass over to whatever it is they believe in   that they will be okay. They've just gotta get through this lifetime   and the only way they can do that is to have faith.  



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Well, wise words, Jo. We've got a couple of minutes. So I'm gonna play the song   that me and Jo were singing and clapping to.   Very modern, but just imagine me and Joe, well, it was good.  

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Yeah. It's lovely. It's fun.  

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The armor of god and the shield of faith.   Got my sword and my helmet, now it's time to pray.   Put on   Put on my boots, I gotta tell the good news.   The armor of God and the shield of faith.   Got my sword and my hammer, and now it's time to pray.   Put on   the full armor of god. Stand strong   against the evil work. Put on   the full armor of God. The full armor of God.   I put   on the full armor of God. Stand strong   against the evil work. I put on the full armor of  

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won.   Alright. Here we go. Alright.   Hallelujah.   Right. We gotta go, Jo. Thanks for allowing me to Jo. We'll catch you soon. Take care, listeners. Have an awesome week.