In this episode, we delve into the complexities of religious conversion and interfaith relations, particularly focusing on the Philos Project, a controversial organization aimed at fostering Christian-Jewish dialogue. The Catholic State shares his personal journey from Protestantism to Catholicism, spurred by a profound spiritual experience. He discusses the challenges faced by Jewish converts to Catholicism and the theological tensions that arise when maintaining aspects of their Jewish identity. The conversation also touches on the historical and modern implications of Jewish influence in Christian communities, highlighting the need for theological clarity and authenticity in interfaith interactions.
We further explore the controversial role of the Philos Project, funded by billionaire Paul Singer, and its impact on Catholic-Jewish relations. The discussion critiques the organization's approach to promoting Zionism within Christian circles, questioning the theological and ethical implications of such alliances. The episode also examines the historical context of antisemitism and the Catholic Church's evolving stance on Jewish relations, emphasizing the importance of adhering to traditional teachings while navigating modern interfaith dynamics. The conversation concludes with a call for greater Catholic media presence to counterbalance prevailing narratives and promote authentic Catholic teachings.
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Alright. We're we're rolling again. So it's Monday, 03/17/2025. Missus Patrick Chanel in Catholic State Hi. Radio windmiller. Yeah. So we were talking there about a little bit about the Filos project before we started broadcasting.
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Yes. And
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I definitely wanna know more about what this is. It's Paul Singer. What's his involvement in it, and how did it get started?
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, my my wife actually turned me on to it. It was Dean Burke who was a Jewish convert to Catholicism, and I suspect he's also a a neo Judaizer too just because they all seem to be neo Judaizers. All the Jewish converts to Catholicism these days. But, they all seem to not want to get rid of their Judaism when they convert, which is weird as a con convert myself. Like, I don't I don't ever like, I'm not very amenable to Protestantism. I, am pretty hostile to Protestantism because I converted from it and I'm like why would I want to be a a Protestant Catholic? What form of Protestantism did you come from? Non denominational.
I just I didn't I was just a mere Christian. How about your parents? What what what do you think? Methodist and Baptist, but not very they're they're pretty lukewarm. They're not really, you know. But anyways, yeah. I I I don't understand Jewish converts to Catholicism that want to keep their Jewishness. So what brought you to the faith? The Catholic faith? Well, what brought me to the faith was, I had an interesting spiritual experience. I was I've talked about this before, but I was a, degenerate. I was definitely immoral and impure. I was, a womanizer.
I was, back in the day, the red pill community used to, a decade ago, stand for something different than what it does now, and it was more about the the chasing women. Well, let let let's put it that way. And I was what they call it, Chad? I kind of. Yeah. I guess maybe that's what you would call it now. But, I, I wasn't really big into womanizing and treating women like meat, basically. And I felt empty, and I had a spiritual experience. You have you have you ever seen pictures or have looked into, like, succubus succubi and incubi?
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Yeah. Yeah. There was a William Shatner film back in the day called Incubus.
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Well well, okay. So this is a phenomenon that's been happening. They they call it right now the the scientists try to explain it away and say that it's just, what what do they call it? Like, you're it's just sleep paralysis. That's how they try to explain it away, but it's always a demon. It's always a demon. Right? I mean, if you if you're if you're going to be in sleep paralysis, you would expect that, if it's your mind playing tricks on you, that you would have see different things that it wouldn't always be demons, but it's always demons because sleep paralysis is just a July.
You really are seeing a demon, and that's what happened to me. I saw a demon. It was a a succubus. And, the scariest thing I ever seen in my life, and I realized that I, I needed to turn away from my sinful life, and I became Christian. You know, I started going to, nondenominational, Bible studies and churches and stuff like that. And then I became Catholic because I found out, you know, if you study if you study the history of Christianity and you read, actually, like, you know how I am, I always quote the church fathers in like my articles and videos. If you actually read the early Christians, the early church fathers, you cease to be Protestant. You you just can't be Protestant unless you're intellectually dishonest because the early Christians were Catholic.
I mean, you could maybe make a case that they for the Eastern Orthodox too, but certainly not Protestantism. Right?
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So you've had a similar experience to say, like, well, I wouldn't I wouldn't say it's similar, but, like, for instance, God tests people and Mhmm. Like, the book of Job is about someone who is righteous that is put through the test and Right. And afflicted by the devil. So he kind of allows people to be afflicted in order to bring out a greater good in them and to spur them on to some some greater grace. And Well someone was like, that's what was going on with you. We ended up becoming that's amazing.
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I was I was not good at the time. Right now, I I I as a Catholic, I I call myself a, recovering sinner. Right? Like a recovering alcoholic. I'm a recovering sinner. Right? And I I still wouldn't say I'm a walking saint by no means. But,
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You're trying.
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I'm trying. Yeah. And, yeah, and I I I still get afflicted, afflicted a lot, especially doing what I'm doing since I have a public ministry. When you have a public ministry, the devil attacks you even harder, as it turns out. So if you ever wonder if you should get into any kind of public ministry, well, just realize if you do and you're you're doing it right, which means you're not compromising on the truth like me, I don't compromise on the truth, you're going to get afflicted by the devil a lot because the devil hates the truth, and he hates those that that don't compromise on the truth.
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So what led you to this this Filos project again? Now you you your wife alerted you to it. She she knew you were interested in in the whole, Catholic Jewish, what would you call it? It's not a dialogue, but the the narrative between the history of Catholic and Jewish relations. Let's put it that way. So she came to you and said, hey. Check this out. Was she aware that it was kind of, a subversive organization when she brought it to your attention? Did I lose you? I think I might have lost you. Let me go back again. Alright.
Sorry. I dropped out for a second. Oh, man. Does that mean we start again? No. That doesn't mean we're starting again. We're just rolling with the punches here. Okay. It's recording, so it's all good. Oh, it's still recording. Okay.
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Well yeah. Yeah. But but yeah. Like like I said, but going back to what we were saying before, we were talking about the Filos project. Yeah. The Filos project,
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they're a neo I mean, you can edit this later probably. I the question I was asking before I was interrupted was, did you your wife brought it to your attention? Did she see the subversive nature behind it when she brought it to your attention?
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So yeah. So she's she heard that this lady, Simone Riscala, and Simone Riscala is the the the female that's, director of Filos Catholic, the the one that's always doing the the video broadcast and the one that was, like, the MC
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at that name again?
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Simone Riscala. Simone. Okay. Yeah, Simone, she was the MC at that,
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five hour long Yeah, I didn't listen to the whole thing. I listened to the part where your your comment was brought up. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But anyways, she was, she's the director of the Filos Catholic
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branch, and, she was on Dan Burke's show talking about, talking about the Armenian genocide and how she's half Armenian and half Egyptian, which is ironic because the state of because of the history of the Armenian genocide that the Jews perpetrated it. The Zionists were on the side of the the young Turks who were crypto Jewish. And it's, you know, the The Donner? Yeah, Israel had the war with, you know, with, Egypt too in the mid-twentieth century, how she is a Zionist, her family, her ancestors are rolling in the graves. I don't know. The Ottoman sultan,
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he had a tremendous amount of power over what we call Palestine. Yeah. And there was a law that Jews could only be there for something like ninety days and they couldn't could not settle
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in that area.
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And by getting rid of the Ottoman Empire, they were able to reverse that and then move in to Palestine permanently, which is what they've been doing ever since. Exactly. And that was that was a big part of it. And, you know, then
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the the Young Turks came to power after the Ottoman, after this Ottoman sultan, you know, he he was kicked out. Right? And the Young Turks, if you look at their history, I mean, they were full of Jews and crypto Jews. Right? Sure. Freemasons and Muslims that were Freemasons and Christians and that. And they were, yeah, they were allied with the Zionist movement too. So, yeah, I don't I don't understand this lady. But, anyways, anyways, I heard my my wife brought it to my attention that she was a pro Zionist, quote, unquote, pro Zionist Catholic. She's like, yeah. Have you heard of this Filos project? She it's like she's my wife's like, you need to listen to this.
She's she's a pro Zionist Catholic. That doesn't this this is this sounds wrong. And I'm like, okay. I listened to it. I'm like and I looked them up, and then they have a presence on YouTube, and I watched some of their videos. And instantly, I'm just like, these these people are evil. And, you know, like, I comment. Yeah, they're subversive. Yeah. And and like they're they're I I I leave a comment on like every one of their videos correcting them theologically. And they definitely know who I am because like you you said, they brought up my comments in their seminar they had last week, which was hilarious. But, anyways and yet, I've even had private conversations with Simone before she blocked me. But, anyways,
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you mean actual, like, what we're doing right now or text?
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Text. Text. Okay. She she talked to me on Twitter and then it was on Instagram and then I basically said called her. I said, you know what? You're embracing heresy. I was like, if you wanted to have a public discussion or debate, let's do this. And then I was blocked. But, anyways, come to find out that this Filos project was actually has actually been it's been around for a few years now. It's it's not really highly well known yet, but it's it's definitely growing. And it is funded by Ju Paul Singer, who's a billionaire Ju who's, he he runs Elliott Management, which is a which is which is called a vulture capitalist company, which basically means it's like the worst type of usury. He basically buys not only, companies, but also sovereign states that are like that that have debt that they can't pay off, and he and he drains them of all the money he can and sells all the assets and just shuts them down. Yeah. I remember him from when, Trump was running the first time. It was Yeah. It was Paul Singer, Bernard Macas,
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and Yeah. And Sheldon Adelson that financed were the biggest donors to Trump's campaign.
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Right. Right. And Paul Singer, so he's he's he's he's super pro usury, right, which is a problem as a Catholic. And then his son is a sodomite. His son, quote unquote, married another man. And so Paul Singer also donates millions of dollars to the the, you know, LGBT, ABC, XYZ type stuff. Right? So he's pro he's pro to sodomy, pro usury. You know, he shut down. There was this, what is it? Nebraska. There was this town that was, like, 2,000 like, there's there's only a few thousand people that even lived in the town, but the most of them worked at the Bass Pro shop there or Bass Pro, I guess it was a headquarters or something there. And as part of a deal, he shut it down and just 2,000 jobs lost. So, I mean, he's anti working class, oppressive to the poor. He's shipping tech jobs over to Israel.
This guy, and he obviously doesn't believe in Jesus Christ either. He's a rabbinical, possibly atheist Jew. And this is a guy that's supposedly running this Filos Project, which is supposed to bring Christians and Jews together when this is really the worst kind of Jew that us Catholics that criticize the Jews criticize.
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Yeah, and usury is pandemic in our world at the moment, especially in the Western world where we are, and it doesn't do us any favors by promoting people like that and giving that lending them any credence with our our religious faith Mhmm. Catholicism because he's using Catholicism as a tool in order to gain credibility with Catholics by by this Filos project.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. So the Simone, is she Catholic?
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I mean, she says she is. Okay. She says she's Catholic. I wouldn't call her a Catholic. I would call her a neo gedizer,
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which is a term I came up with. Sure. Well, the traditional term would be a crypto Jew, which means that they convert, but they
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hold on to the Jewish faith. Well, she's not she's not she wasn't born a Jew, though. She says she's half Armenian and half Egyptian, and she was a cradle Catholic. Okay. So, yeah, I mean, the the like, the the Well, the question then is why why is she associating with Jews in the Philos project? That's a great question. That is that is a great question. For someone that claims to have an Armenian background, which, you know, if you know about the like, we were saying, if you know about the Armenian genocide, it was perpetrated by crypto Jews, the Young Turks, any who were allied with the Zionists at the time. Where is this? If you know anything about Egyptians, they were at they've been at war with Israel, you know, in the past century. So it's like, for someone who says, I'm a half Armenian, half Egyptian Catholic, well, you obviously don't know much about what your ancestors went through in the past a hundred years, years, do you? Because if you were if you did, you weren't wouldn't be so Zionist, Simone.
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Where where is this based? Is there a particular state where they're out of? Is it California, New York? I don't know. I think I think it's actually
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I I I I that's a great question. I mean, their their seminar was in Washington DC. I really have no idea where they're based because it's like the it's mostly a web presence, it seems. And, you like their leader, his name is Lucas Moon, and because, like, Philo's project itself doesn't claim to be Catholic. It claims to just be nominally Christian. So Lucas Moon is the president, and if you've seen pictures of him, I mean, he looks Jewish. I mean, he's got the physiognomy of a Jew. He claims to be a Christian, a Protestant, but he has the physiognomy of a Jew.
Okay.
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So so the the Filos project is more what would you call it? It's like, trying to be an ecumenical thing, or I don't know if that's the right word for it.
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Well, that's what they would call it. They would they would call it ecumenical ecumenical ecumenism. They would call it, we would call it religious indifferentism or we would call it a subversive group. Well, back in the fifties, they called it interfaith. Interfaith. Interfaith dialogue. And interfaith dialogue. But it's, yeah, Lucas Moon Lucas Moon, he claims to be a Protestant. You know? Like, he looks Jewish. I've if you've seen pictures. And then Simone Rescala, she's she's the director of the Filos Catholic, which is their subsidiary of the Filos Project. Right? So and she claims to be a cradle Catholic who's half Armenian and half Egyptian. But, again, like, it's so their agenda is obviously to push the you watch their videos is to push Christians, whether you're a Catholic or just a nominal Protestant Christian or whatever, is to push Christians to become Zionists, and which is problematic in the Catholic faith because the Catholic faith is opposed to Zionism.
Not not not any they always wanna make this a political thing, but it's not even a political it's a it's a religious thing. We're opposed to Zionism based on religious reasons, based on going back to biblical reasons. Right? So it's what they're doing is not only problematic, not only is it, you know, it's subversive politically because they're run by a billionaire Jew, which I mean A vulture capitalist on top of it. Of course, there's a conflict of interest there, but it's also subversive theologically because they're they literally are commanding theological errors and even heresy all the time and their promotion
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of the interests of Israel, of the false state of Israel, Zionism. Right? So what was your comment that really tipped them off? I I heard it, but I I forget now that
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I try and recall it. What Yeah. So that was so I made three podcasts last week, and that was the third podcast I made regarding that comment that that ticked them off. And that was, they had one of the guys that works there. His name is Phil. He's a he's a Jew himself, and basically orthodox Jew. Right? Yeah. He's an orthodox Jew, and he did a video of, with them because the Simone's assistant director, his name is, James. He looks like a 20 you know, he's just he just looks like he's just straight out of college or something. And then this James guy, he he who's looks to be, like, just a normal white North American Anglo Saxon Catholic guy or calls himself Catholic. Right?
And he's he's friends with that, with this Orthodox Jew named Phil, and they go out and drink beers together. And, so their whole video they had on the Filos, the Filos Project channel was talking about how how Jews and Catholics can be friends and, you know, talking about the friendship between Jews and Catholics and how we should be more friends. And the point I was making, I made a comment saying, look. If you really are friends with this Phil guy, this Orthodox Jew guy, Well, let me tell you. My my impression of the video was that they were affirming him in his false religion of Orthodox Judaism. Right? Orthodox Judaism is a false religion. Yeah. The dual covenant.
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Right. The covenant versus supersessionism.
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Yeah. Yeah. They're they're they're affirming him that in his false religion instead of, you know, saying, you know what? Look. This this he's he's got he's in a false religion. This is problematic. So they're affirming him. That was the tone. And my comment was like, look. If you really care about Phil, the Jew guy, and if he's really your friend, you should work on converting him. And then I, you know, I listed, like, the dogma extra ecclesium Nolos that came from Florence as defined by Pope Eugene the fourth and also the other dogma in Florence that defined that anybody that practices the Mosaic Law since the July, is also, will also go to hell, which includes all Jews, and any any Christian that practices the Mosaic Law, anybody that calls themselves Christian that practice practice the Mosaic Law as well. And then I also listed other some other papal magisterium and stuff from pope Eugene the fourth, and, pope Paul the fourth that talks about forbid forbidding Christians to, have company with Jews. Right? And now, like, they Socializing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then, like, cohabitating, socializing, living in the same town, like, you know, like, you are to live in separate, you know, separate parts of town. Right? You know, not no there's no there's no dealings with each other. Right? And now these are, you know, and they respond by saying, well, these are canons and, you know, church canons are subject to change, which is true.
But my point that I was making was like, well, it's it's it's you're missing the force for the trees. It's not the canons that matter. It's the theology behind the canons, the the wisdom, the logic. And the logic is is for the past two thousand years, if us Christians allow and this is this is why even in the fourth of the latter council, pope Innocent the third, one of the the the the, the canons was to not allow Jews to be put in positions of influence and power. And the reason is is if you allow the this comixture of Jews and especially if you allow them to be put in positions of influence and power, what they do is they de Christianize wherever they go. And this is just morals. Yeah. Yeah. This is evident in the whole history of Christendom. Right. Even, and I even made a video, another video last week before then of Pope Innocent the third and his papal bulls. And this is, he was writing these bulls at the height of Christendom, which was at the beginning of the thirteenth century. And he was saying, look, and even then it was like, there was Christian kings and princes and dukes and etcetera that are allowing Jews positions of power of influence. And what would happen was it would the Jews would use up those positions to charge outrageous usury, compound interest, put Christians into debt slavery, and then, you know, kick them around, you know, demoralize them, you know, like, you know, literally, ruined their Christian parades and festivals and all this stuff. And then and he was like, you can't allow these people to have positions of power and influence because they're the enemies of Christ. This is what they do. They will de Christianize wherever they go. You have to, as Christians, be in control and put some space between you and them. Right? And then and then the point I was making to to Simone and James and Phil was that conversion is a two way street.
You look at Simone and you you look at James and Phil, who's converting who here? Right? So Phil is obviously not becoming Catholic. But if you look at James and Simone, it looks awfully like that they are becoming more Jewish. Right? Because they're denying whole aspects of their faith to appease the Jews, to appease their Jewish friends. Right? Yeah. The Indictism. Yes. And this is at the heart of what it is to be a Neo Judaizer. And that's why I coined the term because a Neo Judaizer is someone that is willing to deny aspects of the faith. And some of these parts of the faith that are anti Judaic are hard for modern modern ears to hear. But if somebody denies these aspects of faith to appease the Jews or out of fear of the Jews, then they risk losing their own faith.
And you know what? They're not even helping the Jews. They're not even helping them convert because they're affirming them in their false faith. Right. And that's the whole purpose of us in life is to correct each other. Yeah, it's lose like, this is not a win win situation. They, they are presenting their, what they're doing is a win win situation. Like, oh, let's be friends with Jews. And that way we win and they win and we all get to be friends and everything's good and we all get to go to God together. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's not how it works theologically. The way it works theologically is these Jews that you're not converting, Simone and James and the rest of the Filos project, these Jews that you're not converting, they're gonna go to hell.
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Right? And not only that, they're gonna create rules in society, unchallenged. Well, of course. That will be the destruction of Christian morality, just morality in general.
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Absolutely. And you know what? The neo Judaizers for denying these these aspects of faith, you know what's gonna happen to them? They're also going to go to hell because they're denying these aspects of faith that are that that are part of scripture, tradition, and magisterium and have been for the past two thousand years. And if they were ignorant and, like, most people are are, let's let's let's be charitable here. Most people are ignorant when it comes to the Jews, on church teaching and the Jews. If they were ignorant, God would have mercy on them. Of course, he would. But these people aren't ignorant, Right, Patrick? You know? They know these teachings. They know these teachings. In one of her videos that I in one of the Filos Project videos, they had doctor professor Andre Villeneuve who, he went went to one of the Hebrew universities to get his, theo theology degree. Catholic. And they had him on there, and they're and Simone's like she's like, you know what, doctor Andre? She's like, you know what my my problem is, is when all virtually all the church fathers say these things about the Jews, how do we say all the church fathers are wrong and we're right?
We? That's what she said. That is, that is what that that's a that is a statement of that is a modernist statement. That is that that's not Catholic doc. We don't deny the church father. If we know the church fathers all agreed on something, we don't deny it. We say, yeah, that's what we believe because we're Catholic. So they know. And if you watch what happened with that last week, Trent with Trent Horn, he even he even made it clear too that he knows this is what the church fathers and doctors and and previous popes teach. They know this. Now is he being financed, do you think, by Paul Singer's group? Is he part of the Filos, or is he separate? That's I I think he's just a crypto Jew. I mean, he is his he's Jewish from his father's side. Sure.
Yeah. I I think he's he's an actual crypto Jew, and I think that's what these a lot of these neo Judaizers, not all of them are are Jews. Right? Like, I'm talking about Simone and this James guy. They're not Jews. Simone, she I mean, she's a Middle Eastern. Maybe she is Jewish. I don't know because she says she's half Armenian, half Egyptian. And how do you look at someone that's half Armenian and half half Egyptian and, like, look at their physiognomy and, like, compare it to a Jew, it looks basically the same. Right?
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But anyways It reminds me this this idea of the crypto Jews being prevalent in in still to this day. I there's a author, David Koetzer, who's Jewish. He's a script writer who's writing a script for Steven Spielberg and this sort of thing. He wrote a book called The Popes Against the Jews that I had read. Yeah. I saw an interview with him where he's describing in the Southwest Of America, there are a lot of crypto Jews in the clergy even. He and this is a Jew saying this. It is. It's true. It's, concerning and you just wonder, well, who are they then? And
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what do we do about it? What what what can we do about it? What should we do about it? Well, yeah. I mean and that's I think that's where this neo Judaizing comes from. I mean, that's been a big part of my research. It's like, who's who's really pushed neo Judaizing? And if you look at it, it's it's Jewish converts and Catholicism. Now they'll say things like, well, there's no need for modern crypto Jews because the crypto Jews we had in the past, and they are different. They're more of a neo crypto Jew because the crypto Jews in the past, they they only converted because they felt like they had to convert in order to get some sort of, like, political gain or social gain out of it. Right? They only did it because they felt coerced to do it for some sort of temporal gain. Right?
Whereas the modern crypto Jews, these neo crypto Jews are converting specifically, it seems, to Judaize the faith, to actually to to infiltrate the church and Judaize it. You look at Nostra Aetate from Vatican 2, and I know both you and I, ascent to Vatican 2. Right? None neither of us are we're not we're not here. Right? So we ascent the Vatican too. But if you but, like and you've may probably read some of my stuff or heard some of my takes on it. With Nostra Aetate, I do my best to reconcile it with tradition, and I I I I can from a textualist, textualist, stance.
However, if you look at the history of Nostra Aetate, the three priests, and I forget their names, but the three priests that drafted I know one was John Osterreicher. Yeah. Yeah. They're, they're all, they're all Jew. They, they were all Jewish Catholics. And, and the reason Nosfer Atate was, was put together at all was because, John the twenty third, was friends with, who was it? He was friends with this rich, rich, rich Jewish guy. He was very pope and, Jules Isaac. There we go. Jules Isaac. So Jules Isaac before. Jules Isaac was, the one that pushed for John the twenty third to to, you know, have the second Vatican council in order to write Nostra Aetate.
And the intention was the intention was to change the church teaching on the Jews. That was the intention. They wanted to change the church teaching and they wanted to say Jules Isaac's intention. Yeah. The the yeah. It was Jules Isaac's intention, and it was the the the ones that were trying to push for this. Their intention, the modernist, even in the council I mean, because even in the council, you had, Cardinal Bea, who and his henchmen, everybody, everybody knows, everybody knows father Malachi Martin for being, you know, the, the, the third Fatima secret guy, the one that wrote, wrote, wrote, wrote the books in the nineties and that, that, that did the, the, you know, coast to coast AM show with Art Bell. Right? But what people don't remember is that in the sixties, Malachi Martin was a a Jesuit under Cardinal Bea that was a liaison to the Jews.
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So He was paid by the American Jewish Committee.
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Yes. Yes. So Cardinal Bea yeah. So he was working with the enemy. Right? So we gotta keep that in mind. So he, him, and Cardinal Bea, they were working with the America Jewish Jewish Committee. They were working with, like, Abraham, Joshua Herschel, Max Horkheimer, who was of the Frankfurt School. Right? Max Horkheimer was of the Frankfurt School, which came up with critical race theory, critical gender theory, DEI and all that garbage that we have to suffer through today. Right? And so Yeah. The who was the guy that did the Oregon
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energy stuff? I forget the guy the guy's name. He was another one of those Frankfurt guys.
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But it anyway Yeah. But yeah. But yeah. These guys these guys that were they were trying to change church teaching. It was it was. The intent behind it was that they wanted to change the church teaching to say that the Jews are our greatest allies, that they wanted to change it to where they say Jews can be saved through their own covenant, so dual covenant theology, and they wanted to completely abrogate the fact that the Jews are guilty for deicide and that the Jews are guilty, that the Jews curse themselves, etc.
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Yet, yet in text it doesn't. Yeah, exactly. In text of it does doesn't. And one of the first one of the first, subjects of the council was actually on the media. Mhmm. And because the media had gotten out of control by that point, by '63 or '62 when it had started, and the first thing that they focused on was we need to get a handle of the media because right now things are out of control, they're spinning out of control. And that was the focus of the bishops and these bishops were traditional bishops. Right. They they were looking out for the good of the church and they called an, council in order to figure out how best to address the the, storm of the modern world and keep people in the ship and keep them from bailing.
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Right. Yeah. But with Nostra Aetate, I mean, the result is yeah. I mean, I agree with you in that you've probably may maybe you've read some of my stuff or heard some of my stuff on Nostra Aetate. I I do believe that we can reconcile it textually.
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Yeah there's the tradition. Like E. Michael Jones says, there's the text where they say that, the Jews are the older brother in, in, you know, and where the Christians are the younger brother, well
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the Esau and Jacob. And and Cain and Abel. Cain and Cain and Abel. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. And, like, even in, like and I've got an argument, like, I I call it the subject verb object argument. The the Nostra Aetate says we can't act as if the God rejected the Jews. Well, we don't believe that. We believe the opposite. We believe that the Jews reject God. Rejecting Christ. Yes. Right. Exactly. And it also says we can't act as if God cursed the Jews, and we actually don't believe that either. If you actually read what themselves by
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by going along with it, and they continue to Absolutely. By continuing to say like, you'll you talk to any Jew,
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they'll say that Jesus was a false prophet. He was a magician from Egypt and all this kind of other crazy stuff that they Yep. The Jews cursed themselves. Yeah. Absolutely. So, so this is, this is so we can totally square with tradition. It's just, it's just, yeah, it's just, but, but here's here's the thing, the way it's interpreted since Vatican two, I mean, I do like, and, you know, you and I agree on this, obviously, that the Holy Ghost did, did prevent, you know, the church from actually teaching error through this. Right. But at the same time, it is written in a way, unfortunately, that the Neo Judaizers can and do use it
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to promulgate their errors. And that's that's You know how they do it is because it isn't there a a section where they they say that they reject all forms of antisemitism? Isn't that Right. Right. Of the mess.
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And it's like E. Michael Jones says, or, you know, well, it's antisemitism. Antisemitism is just who the Jews hate. Right. Who the Jews don't like. That's what the definition of antisemitism is today. Right.
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And that's why it's such a powerful word that they use over and over again to get people the sheeple the sheeple is the William Cooper used to call them. Yes. Exactly. To get them to believe it because it's like, oh, Nazi, antisemitism, Hitler. You just say those words, and it's like, oh, we're supposed to shutter.
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Heartstrings. Yeah. I mean, if you watch that that that the the conference the other day, that's all they did. That's all Trent Horn did. That's all the rest of them did too is pull out heartstrings. And then when it came to theological and when it came to factual things, like, oh, yeah. And then then, you know, these these people, you know, Sean Horn will say, and then these people will make claims like the Jews run the media in Hollywood and push pornography and push feminism and stuff, which are all Provely. These are all verifiably true. I mean, you you see me like, I prove I I have videos where I prove this stuff in two minutes. Right? It's it's that easy to prove. Like, these get dismissed because they pull on the heartstrings,
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and they get they put people in a state of emotion instead of a state of logic. I used to listen to David Duke a lot, and he knows all the people and the and you could list all the facts even though he's not you know, I wouldn't call him a Catholic, but he's, you know, easy. He he is one he is he is one of my,
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he's one of my, what is it? He's, not idols. He's he's one of my,
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Well, you could call him like an inspiration
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as far as, like, his authorship of what he's Yeah. How how he he does scholarship. How he presents things because the reason because if you watch my videos or or read my articles, I definitely emulate his style a lot because I remember watching him back in the day, all he did was he would just say, to prove what the Jews are saying and doing, he would just read Times of Israel or the Jerusalem Post or because the Jews will just, they They're all open with it. Yeah. They can't help but to brag about it at some point. It's like the website, Jewishcontributions.com. I reference that all the time. You know, they can't help but to brag about it. So it's like, that's what I do in my videos and in my my articles. I just quote their own sources. You know? Even the Talmud, it's like, I don't use you know? And it it irks me when I see these guys that that, get, like, Talmud quotes from these quote, unquote anti Semitic sites. You know? Like and they they spread them around, and then that irks me because then the neo Judaizer types will just be like, oh, you just got that from an anti Semitic site.
Don't do that. Do what I do. I go to sephoria.org. Sephoria Org is a verifiably Jewish site, and I go to I go right there and I find the quotes. I quote them directly from their source. That's how we gotta do things. Right? We gotta quote them from their sources, you know, and it's when we do it, it's it's just it's so easy.
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They can't refute us. I've been coming across, Catholic resources too because with the Spiros project, you have to bring them the Catholic perspective as well.
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Absolutely. On the topic
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of particularly Judaizing of the Catholic. Because it Absolutely. That that That's why we need to be on guard of of what's going on
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in that area. Absolutely. That's why I don't know if you, like, saw this, but, a couple weeks ago, I created a new tab on my website. Christ my website's christtheking.info, by the way, for anybody, out there. But there's a tab called Catholic resources on the Jewish question. And all it is is just I just have a bunch of resources from the church fathers. Like, I have the Douay Rheims Bible, the Catina Bible. I have the epistle epistle of Barnabas, the seven epistles of Saint Ignatius of Antioch,
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the martyrdom of Polycarp, dialogue with Triphill by Saint Justin Martyr. You know, like, I have, you know, I have New Advent is a good one, and I was quoting some of those. Now you noticed in the commentary, we'd post stuff in that Filos, conference thing, and it'd get deleted right away. And then and this is this is a normal tactic on YouTube that Yeah. That's quite often used. Yeah. If they don't like what you say, they'll just delete it and then you have to Yeah. Sit and make your argument over and over again in order to get anywhere. But they, you know, the the antisemitism thing is a is a big deal. So we're talking about Nostra Aetate and they say all forms of antisemitism.
But I can go back and I've through this David Koetzer's book, the Jewish David Koetzer, who wrote The Popes Against the Jews back in February, he had mentioned Karl Lueger, who was a Catholic mayor of Austria during the time that Adolf Hitler was in his painting theory, you know, he's in the into painting, architectural painting, and this sort of thing in Vienna. And that's where he first learned about the anti Semitic party, which was what Karl Lueger was part of. He was the leader of it. And that was based out of Dresden, but it was also it was also a socialist thing. So it was kind of like they lost through the culture camp in Germany that took place where it's basically you take all of the Catholic schools, you close them down, and you put all the children into public schools.
Right. That's what they did. And they the Catholics were furious about this, and they wanted it so that they could teach the faith to children without the government stepping in. Well, there's compromises that were taking place, and there was a group called the Chris Christian Socialists at a certain point where they formed a coalition with the German nationals, which were mostly Protestants, in order to create something that could oppose the National Liberal Party, which was mostly Jewish, and they were backed by France and England, in particular England, where they were the main party in Vienna, but it was such a degenerate place in the late eighteen hundreds mid to late 1800s. You had Jews and you had pro prostitution all over the place. Capital you know, the usury was out of control.
And Karl Lueger was a a lawyer who worked for the poor. He didn't take much he didn't take hardly any money for what he did in protecting the poor people, and he was constantly in a battle to get into any sort of power position within their their, Reichsbot or whatever they call it. Like the Reichstatt, it's the Austrian version. They they even the Holy Roman Emperor the Habsburg tried to prevent him from becoming mayor because he was getting pressure because he's got loans to the Roth from the Rothschilds and this sort of thing that he's beholden to.
But eventually they had no choice because what happened was Vienna tripled in size and it using democratic principles against the national liberals, he was able to get into power as mayor of Vienna. And it was, like, just a a rebirth of art and architecture and culture and the the church and the clerics all supported him. Mhmm. But the thing of it is, it was called the antisemitic party. And you read in that the article that I posted in the comment to the Filos Filos Project, It's about Karl Lueger in the Catholic Encyclopedia. And there they say, well, this is what Semitism meant back then.
Semitism in Vienna had come to mean political corruption and oppressive capitalism, and that's why they created this the anti Semitic party because that's what that had come to mean because it essentially it's Judaism that you're talking about when you're talking about semitism. Mhmm. It's just another word for Semitism. So it's but then again you had people like William Marr at the same time. He was also kind of a liberal. He wasn't he wasn't this, like, he isn't what he wasn't like a Hitler or anything. But he he tried to establish it based on purely physical terms, race you know, physical racial features and all this kind of stuff and trying to get it Instead of saying that Jews can be converted and come to Christ, he was trying to say, well, genetic determinism type behavior is determined by the, you know, the Darwin was real popular at the time, becoming very more and more prevalent. Right.
And trying to mix that into the politics, the enlightened enlightenment really threw a monkey wrench into things in that regard. But if you go back, antisemitism was not always a bad thing. And the church even taught that it wasn't a bad thing. But they're not willing to promote it now because most people don't know about it. How many people know about Karl Luger? But if you read Mein Kampf, you see that Hitler abhorred the idea of antisemitism at first. But then he saw how popular Karl Luger was and what was happening in the culture by the Jewish the Jewish influence in society. And that's why he started to notice that it was corrupt. But he didn't believe he believed more in the German national position, which was the Protestant.
I think his name was George, Schonerer. And he he's the one that came up with it. The Sieg, you know, where they go Sieg Heil. That sort of thing, you know, getting people to coalesce under nationalism and it's kind of like a racial nationalism, but it's a, like a racial determinism, like you're born into whatever you're born into and you can't change it. You're either Arian or you're a whatever.
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Yes. Yes. So that is the church teaching. So if you look, me and, doctor Deep State, we went through, La Civilta Cattolica. Yep. That's a Jesuit publication under that's that's actually under the popes. They they gotta give their final Vatican approval. It still exists. Yeah. It still exists. But in 1890, they released this was still under Pope Leo the thirteenth, who was the same pope that gave his gave the blessing to Karl Lou Luger's party. Right? So under the same pope, Pope Louis the thirteenth, this, the Jewish question was, discussed in in the series of articles in 1890. Yeah. It was the hundred year anniversary of the French revolution. Yes. And, and their definition and me and me and doctor Deep State, we went through this line by line in several videos behind a paywall, unfortunately, on on his local which I was on his local's channel. But it's good stuff if you wanna pay $5 a month. But, anyways, we towards the beginning of the first article, they talk about the definition of like, really what the Catholic definition of the Jews. And they and the Catholic definition is rejecting this notion
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of Jews being a biological race. And they can't convert. That's the Yeah. Yeah. That we because that's what Hitler said. Hitler said, well, the Jews I don't believe the Jews can convert to anything, so we're just gonna treat them different. And that's an error.
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Yep. That's that's a theological error. So that's why that's that's really the big distinction between us and and, like, why the why did these Nazis and why I often push back against these, quote, online, quote, unquote, Nazi Catholics because we do believe that Jews are redeemable. We believe that it's not a biological question. It's a question and now there is an ethnic part of it. There is both a religious and an ethnic part of it. Right? But the Family is important. Yeah. The ethnic part of it is just based on how, like, the curse works and how their how, like, how the the imitation of their fathers works. Right? Because with Jews, it's like, you know, they have when they have children, you know, these Jews are, you know, they're under the same blood curse. Right? And what what does that mean? And that's more in how they react to the name of Jesus.
Right. Right. What what what did it's it's just a generational curse, which basically means exactly what you're saying, that they're more inclined to reject Jesus because of their ancestors. Right? And and it's not only a nature thing, but it's also a nurture thing. If you're born a Jew, right, you're more inclined to reject Jesus because it's your nature, because of your ancestors, your generational curse, but you're also more inclined to reject him because you're if you're born into, like, let's say, an orthodox Jewish family that reads the town mood where it says Jesus is in is in hell and boiling excrement because he's a heretic, then, of course, you're more inclined to believe that. Right? So, yeah, I mean, so there there's there's an ethnos thing and and there's a religious aspect too, but we do believe Jews are redeemable and that they can convert to Catholicism even though, unfortunately, it's it's not very it's not very common. You know? And these neo Judaizers, they're not helping. They're not helping. By by affirming Jews and their false beliefs, they're unfortunately part of the problem and not part of the solution.
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Yeah. And I think of brother Nathaniel who converted to Orthodox Christianity and Russian Orthodox in particular. And it's interesting still, though, he has this hang up on white civilization being somehow a redeeming thing, you know, the biggest challenge to Jewish power is white civilization. And it's like, well, white isn't a good definition for it because it kind of then becomes like that, that socialist mentality of like it doesn't matter what, you know, what your belief is you just have, you know you have to be from this ethnic group and that'll solve it if you have racial co you know coalescing on gaining power somehow over over it but I don't think that's gonna ultimately stand because you have to have Catholic principles and it doesn't matter where they come from on what continent you're from if you're a Catholic.
You have the faith and that's gonna be what leads the civilization into greatness and into by that I mean greater happiness in following God and being a just person and having just laws in society and not all of these things that we have now where it's easy divorce, you know everything else that comes from that where you have, just wars going on for no no good reason. Like, there's, there's no good reason for the war in Ukraine. You have brothers fighting brothers, Russians fighting Russians.
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Mhmm.
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And they're being pitted against each other by people who don't even live there and and who won't even send their sons to go and fight.
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Yep.
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It's that sort of, societal corruption, and I think that's what we're trying to turn around here with what we're doing. Yeah. I see it's coming to the top of the hour here. I'm probably gonna let you go because I know you're a busy man. You got a family that, you pray with, and, I really appreciate you coming on. It's been Thanks, Patrick. Quite fun. And I hope to talk to you again sooner than we did last time. So, I'm gonna end it here and everybody, this is Catholic State. He's, you can go to catholicstate.org.
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Is that correct? It's it's either catholicstate.com or christtheking.info.Dotinfo.
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Okay. Good. Yeah. And you can, this is Radio Windmiller, so RadioWindmiller.com. I do twenty four seven. I try to keep it as Catholic as possible. I put some stuff on there that yeah. I just try to get a feel for what the alternative media says, so I put other things on that I I monitor, but I try to keep it as Catholic as possible. Like, I have Vatican radio. I try to keep in contact with them. Like, I've been making contact with, especially the for some reason, it's easier to reach the Vatican English for Africa Department of Vatican than the actual Vatican people, news people.
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Interesting.
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Because they're more approachable. I mean, in Africa, it's a poorer country, they're less pretentious. I mean, it's, it's probably the fastest growing Catholic population in the world right now is in Africa. Mhmm. So, and I think, what we have going on, we need to get as much contact with other churches, Catholic churches, I mean, in the world as possible and create a network so we we can create our own media so we can have five times the amount that the, you know, the the Jewish media is right now. We we need five times that amount in order to combat what's going on and the lies and deception.
So, thank you very much and I'm gonna end it right here. So You're welcome. Thanks everybody. God bless. Yep.
Alright. We're we're rolling again. So it's Monday, 03/17/2025. Missus Patrick Chanel in Catholic State Hi. Radio windmiller. Yeah. So we were talking there about a little bit about the Filos project before we started broadcasting.
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Yes. And
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I definitely wanna know more about what this is. It's Paul Singer. What's his involvement in it, and how did it get started?
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, my my wife actually turned me on to it. It was Dean Burke who was a Jewish convert to Catholicism, and I suspect he's also a a neo Judaizer too just because they all seem to be neo Judaizers. All the Jewish converts to Catholicism these days. But, they all seem to not want to get rid of their Judaism when they convert, which is weird as a con convert myself. Like, I don't I don't ever like, I'm not very amenable to Protestantism. I, am pretty hostile to Protestantism because I converted from it and I'm like why would I want to be a a Protestant Catholic? What form of Protestantism did you come from? Non denominational.
I just I didn't I was just a mere Christian. How about your parents? What what what do you think? Methodist and Baptist, but not very they're they're pretty lukewarm. They're not really, you know. But anyways, yeah. I I I don't understand Jewish converts to Catholicism that want to keep their Jewishness. So what brought you to the faith? The Catholic faith? Well, what brought me to the faith was, I had an interesting spiritual experience. I was I've talked about this before, but I was a, degenerate. I was definitely immoral and impure. I was, a womanizer.
I was, back in the day, the red pill community used to, a decade ago, stand for something different than what it does now, and it was more about the the chasing women. Well, let let let's put it that way. And I was what they call it, Chad? I kind of. Yeah. I guess maybe that's what you would call it now. But, I, I wasn't really big into womanizing and treating women like meat, basically. And I felt empty, and I had a spiritual experience. You have you have you ever seen pictures or have looked into, like, succubus succubi and incubi?
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Yeah. Yeah. There was a William Shatner film back in the day called Incubus.
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Well well, okay. So this is a phenomenon that's been happening. They they call it right now the the scientists try to explain it away and say that it's just, what what do they call it? Like, you're it's just sleep paralysis. That's how they try to explain it away, but it's always a demon. It's always a demon. Right? I mean, if you if you're if you're going to be in sleep paralysis, you would expect that, if it's your mind playing tricks on you, that you would have see different things that it wouldn't always be demons, but it's always demons because sleep paralysis is just a July.
You really are seeing a demon, and that's what happened to me. I saw a demon. It was a a succubus. And, the scariest thing I ever seen in my life, and I realized that I, I needed to turn away from my sinful life, and I became Christian. You know, I started going to, nondenominational, Bible studies and churches and stuff like that. And then I became Catholic because I found out, you know, if you study if you study the history of Christianity and you read, actually, like, you know how I am, I always quote the church fathers in like my articles and videos. If you actually read the early Christians, the early church fathers, you cease to be Protestant. You you just can't be Protestant unless you're intellectually dishonest because the early Christians were Catholic.
I mean, you could maybe make a case that they for the Eastern Orthodox too, but certainly not Protestantism. Right?
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So you've had a similar experience to say, like, well, I wouldn't I wouldn't say it's similar, but, like, for instance, God tests people and Mhmm. Like, the book of Job is about someone who is righteous that is put through the test and Right. And afflicted by the devil. So he kind of allows people to be afflicted in order to bring out a greater good in them and to spur them on to some some greater grace. And Well someone was like, that's what was going on with you. We ended up becoming that's amazing.
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I was I was not good at the time. Right now, I I I as a Catholic, I I call myself a, recovering sinner. Right? Like a recovering alcoholic. I'm a recovering sinner. Right? And I I still wouldn't say I'm a walking saint by no means. But,
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You're trying.
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I'm trying. Yeah. And, yeah, and I I I still get afflicted, afflicted a lot, especially doing what I'm doing since I have a public ministry. When you have a public ministry, the devil attacks you even harder, as it turns out. So if you ever wonder if you should get into any kind of public ministry, well, just realize if you do and you're you're doing it right, which means you're not compromising on the truth like me, I don't compromise on the truth, you're going to get afflicted by the devil a lot because the devil hates the truth, and he hates those that that don't compromise on the truth.
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So what led you to this this Filos project again? Now you you your wife alerted you to it. She she knew you were interested in in the whole, Catholic Jewish, what would you call it? It's not a dialogue, but the the narrative between the history of Catholic and Jewish relations. Let's put it that way. So she came to you and said, hey. Check this out. Was she aware that it was kind of, a subversive organization when she brought it to your attention? Did I lose you? I think I might have lost you. Let me go back again. Alright.
Sorry. I dropped out for a second. Oh, man. Does that mean we start again? No. That doesn't mean we're starting again. We're just rolling with the punches here. Okay. It's recording, so it's all good. Oh, it's still recording. Okay.
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Well yeah. Yeah. But but yeah. Like like I said, but going back to what we were saying before, we were talking about the Filos project. Yeah. The Filos project,
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they're a neo I mean, you can edit this later probably. I the question I was asking before I was interrupted was, did you your wife brought it to your attention? Did she see the subversive nature behind it when she brought it to your attention?
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So yeah. So she's she heard that this lady, Simone Riscala, and Simone Riscala is the the the female that's, director of Filos Catholic, the the one that's always doing the the video broadcast and the one that was, like, the MC
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at that name again?
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Simone Riscala. Simone. Okay. Yeah, Simone, she was the MC at that,
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five hour long Yeah, I didn't listen to the whole thing. I listened to the part where your your comment was brought up. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But anyways, she was, she's the director of the Filos Catholic
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branch, and, she was on Dan Burke's show talking about, talking about the Armenian genocide and how she's half Armenian and half Egyptian, which is ironic because the state of because of the history of the Armenian genocide that the Jews perpetrated it. The Zionists were on the side of the the young Turks who were crypto Jewish. And it's, you know, the The Donner? Yeah, Israel had the war with, you know, with, Egypt too in the mid-twentieth century, how she is a Zionist, her family, her ancestors are rolling in the graves. I don't know. The Ottoman sultan,
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he had a tremendous amount of power over what we call Palestine. Yeah. And there was a law that Jews could only be there for something like ninety days and they couldn't could not settle
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in that area.
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And by getting rid of the Ottoman Empire, they were able to reverse that and then move in to Palestine permanently, which is what they've been doing ever since. Exactly. And that was that was a big part of it. And, you know, then
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the the Young Turks came to power after the Ottoman, after this Ottoman sultan, you know, he he was kicked out. Right? And the Young Turks, if you look at their history, I mean, they were full of Jews and crypto Jews. Right? Sure. Freemasons and Muslims that were Freemasons and Christians and that. And they were, yeah, they were allied with the Zionist movement too. So, yeah, I don't I don't understand this lady. But, anyways, anyways, I heard my my wife brought it to my attention that she was a pro Zionist, quote, unquote, pro Zionist Catholic. She's like, yeah. Have you heard of this Filos project? She it's like she's my wife's like, you need to listen to this.
She's she's a pro Zionist Catholic. That doesn't this this is this sounds wrong. And I'm like, okay. I listened to it. I'm like and I looked them up, and then they have a presence on YouTube, and I watched some of their videos. And instantly, I'm just like, these these people are evil. And, you know, like, I comment. Yeah, they're subversive. Yeah. And and like they're they're I I I leave a comment on like every one of their videos correcting them theologically. And they definitely know who I am because like you you said, they brought up my comments in their seminar they had last week, which was hilarious. But, anyways and yet, I've even had private conversations with Simone before she blocked me. But, anyways,
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you mean actual, like, what we're doing right now or text?
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Text. Text. Okay. She she talked to me on Twitter and then it was on Instagram and then I basically said called her. I said, you know what? You're embracing heresy. I was like, if you wanted to have a public discussion or debate, let's do this. And then I was blocked. But, anyways, come to find out that this Filos project was actually has actually been it's been around for a few years now. It's it's not really highly well known yet, but it's it's definitely growing. And it is funded by Ju Paul Singer, who's a billionaire Ju who's, he he runs Elliott Management, which is a which is which is called a vulture capitalist company, which basically means it's like the worst type of usury. He basically buys not only, companies, but also sovereign states that are like that that have debt that they can't pay off, and he and he drains them of all the money he can and sells all the assets and just shuts them down. Yeah. I remember him from when, Trump was running the first time. It was Yeah. It was Paul Singer, Bernard Macas,
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and Yeah. And Sheldon Adelson that financed were the biggest donors to Trump's campaign.
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Right. Right. And Paul Singer, so he's he's he's he's super pro usury, right, which is a problem as a Catholic. And then his son is a sodomite. His son, quote unquote, married another man. And so Paul Singer also donates millions of dollars to the the, you know, LGBT, ABC, XYZ type stuff. Right? So he's pro he's pro to sodomy, pro usury. You know, he shut down. There was this, what is it? Nebraska. There was this town that was, like, 2,000 like, there's there's only a few thousand people that even lived in the town, but the most of them worked at the Bass Pro shop there or Bass Pro, I guess it was a headquarters or something there. And as part of a deal, he shut it down and just 2,000 jobs lost. So, I mean, he's anti working class, oppressive to the poor. He's shipping tech jobs over to Israel.
This guy, and he obviously doesn't believe in Jesus Christ either. He's a rabbinical, possibly atheist Jew. And this is a guy that's supposedly running this Filos Project, which is supposed to bring Christians and Jews together when this is really the worst kind of Jew that us Catholics that criticize the Jews criticize.
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Yeah, and usury is pandemic in our world at the moment, especially in the Western world where we are, and it doesn't do us any favors by promoting people like that and giving that lending them any credence with our our religious faith Mhmm. Catholicism because he's using Catholicism as a tool in order to gain credibility with Catholics by by this Filos project.
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Yeah. So the Simone, is she Catholic?
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I mean, she says she is. Okay. She says she's Catholic. I wouldn't call her a Catholic. I would call her a neo gedizer,
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which is a term I came up with. Sure. Well, the traditional term would be a crypto Jew, which means that they convert, but they
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hold on to the Jewish faith. Well, she's not she's not she wasn't born a Jew, though. She says she's half Armenian and half Egyptian, and she was a cradle Catholic. Okay. So, yeah, I mean, the the like, the the Well, the question then is why why is she associating with Jews in the Philos project? That's a great question. That is that is a great question. For someone that claims to have an Armenian background, which, you know, if you know about the like, we were saying, if you know about the Armenian genocide, it was perpetrated by crypto Jews, the Young Turks, any who were allied with the Zionists at the time. Where is this? If you know anything about Egyptians, they were at they've been at war with Israel, you know, in the past century. So it's like, for someone who says, I'm a half Armenian, half Egyptian Catholic, well, you obviously don't know much about what your ancestors went through in the past a hundred years, years, do you? Because if you were if you did, you weren't wouldn't be so Zionist, Simone.
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Where where is this based? Is there a particular state where they're out of? Is it California, New York? I don't know. I think I think it's actually
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I I I I that's a great question. I mean, their their seminar was in Washington DC. I really have no idea where they're based because it's like the it's mostly a web presence, it seems. And, you like their leader, his name is Lucas Moon, and because, like, Philo's project itself doesn't claim to be Catholic. It claims to just be nominally Christian. So Lucas Moon is the president, and if you've seen pictures of him, I mean, he looks Jewish. I mean, he's got the physiognomy of a Jew. He claims to be a Christian, a Protestant, but he has the physiognomy of a Jew.
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So so the the Filos project is more what would you call it? It's like, trying to be an ecumenical thing, or I don't know if that's the right word for it.
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Well, that's what they would call it. They would they would call it ecumenical ecumenical ecumenism. They would call it, we would call it religious indifferentism or we would call it a subversive group. Well, back in the fifties, they called it interfaith. Interfaith. Interfaith dialogue. And interfaith dialogue. But it's, yeah, Lucas Moon Lucas Moon, he claims to be a Protestant. You know? Like, he looks Jewish. I've if you've seen pictures. And then Simone Rescala, she's she's the director of the Filos Catholic, which is their subsidiary of the Filos Project. Right? So and she claims to be a cradle Catholic who's half Armenian and half Egyptian. But, again, like, it's so their agenda is obviously to push the you watch their videos is to push Christians, whether you're a Catholic or just a nominal Protestant Christian or whatever, is to push Christians to become Zionists, and which is problematic in the Catholic faith because the Catholic faith is opposed to Zionism.
Not not not any they always wanna make this a political thing, but it's not even a political it's a it's a religious thing. We're opposed to Zionism based on religious reasons, based on going back to biblical reasons. Right? So it's what they're doing is not only problematic, not only is it, you know, it's subversive politically because they're run by a billionaire Jew, which I mean A vulture capitalist on top of it. Of course, there's a conflict of interest there, but it's also subversive theologically because they're they literally are commanding theological errors and even heresy all the time and their promotion
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of the interests of Israel, of the false state of Israel, Zionism. Right? So what was your comment that really tipped them off? I I heard it, but I I forget now that
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I try and recall it. What Yeah. So that was so I made three podcasts last week, and that was the third podcast I made regarding that comment that that ticked them off. And that was, they had one of the guys that works there. His name is Phil. He's a he's a Jew himself, and basically orthodox Jew. Right? Yeah. He's an orthodox Jew, and he did a video of, with them because the Simone's assistant director, his name is, James. He looks like a 20 you know, he's just he just looks like he's just straight out of college or something. And then this James guy, he he who's looks to be, like, just a normal white North American Anglo Saxon Catholic guy or calls himself Catholic. Right?
And he's he's friends with that, with this Orthodox Jew named Phil, and they go out and drink beers together. And, so their whole video they had on the Filos, the Filos Project channel was talking about how how Jews and Catholics can be friends and, you know, talking about the friendship between Jews and Catholics and how we should be more friends. And the point I was making, I made a comment saying, look. If you really are friends with this Phil guy, this Orthodox Jew guy, Well, let me tell you. My my impression of the video was that they were affirming him in his false religion of Orthodox Judaism. Right? Orthodox Judaism is a false religion. Yeah. The dual covenant.
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Right. The covenant versus supersessionism.
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Yeah. Yeah. They're they're they're affirming him that in his false religion instead of, you know, saying, you know what? Look. This this he's he's got he's in a false religion. This is problematic. So they're affirming him. That was the tone. And my comment was like, look. If you really care about Phil, the Jew guy, and if he's really your friend, you should work on converting him. And then I, you know, I listed, like, the dogma extra ecclesium Nolos that came from Florence as defined by Pope Eugene the fourth and also the other dogma in Florence that defined that anybody that practices the Mosaic Law since the July, is also, will also go to hell, which includes all Jews, and any any Christian that practices the Mosaic Law, anybody that calls themselves Christian that practice practice the Mosaic Law as well. And then I also listed other some other papal magisterium and stuff from pope Eugene the fourth, and, pope Paul the fourth that talks about forbid forbidding Christians to, have company with Jews. Right? And now, like, they Socializing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then, like, cohabitating, socializing, living in the same town, like, you know, like, you are to live in separate, you know, separate parts of town. Right? You know, not no there's no there's no dealings with each other. Right? And now these are, you know, and they respond by saying, well, these are canons and, you know, church canons are subject to change, which is true.
But my point that I was making was like, well, it's it's it's you're missing the force for the trees. It's not the canons that matter. It's the theology behind the canons, the the wisdom, the logic. And the logic is is for the past two thousand years, if us Christians allow and this is this is why even in the fourth of the latter council, pope Innocent the third, one of the the the the, the canons was to not allow Jews to be put in positions of influence and power. And the reason is is if you allow the this comixture of Jews and especially if you allow them to be put in positions of influence and power, what they do is they de Christianize wherever they go. And this is just morals. Yeah. Yeah. This is evident in the whole history of Christendom. Right. Even, and I even made a video, another video last week before then of Pope Innocent the third and his papal bulls. And this is, he was writing these bulls at the height of Christendom, which was at the beginning of the thirteenth century. And he was saying, look, and even then it was like, there was Christian kings and princes and dukes and etcetera that are allowing Jews positions of power of influence. And what would happen was it would the Jews would use up those positions to charge outrageous usury, compound interest, put Christians into debt slavery, and then, you know, kick them around, you know, demoralize them, you know, like, you know, literally, ruined their Christian parades and festivals and all this stuff. And then and he was like, you can't allow these people to have positions of power and influence because they're the enemies of Christ. This is what they do. They will de Christianize wherever they go. You have to, as Christians, be in control and put some space between you and them. Right? And then and then the point I was making to to Simone and James and Phil was that conversion is a two way street.
You look at Simone and you you look at James and Phil, who's converting who here? Right? So Phil is obviously not becoming Catholic. But if you look at James and Simone, it looks awfully like that they are becoming more Jewish. Right? Because they're denying whole aspects of their faith to appease the Jews, to appease their Jewish friends. Right? Yeah. The Indictism. Yes. And this is at the heart of what it is to be a Neo Judaizer. And that's why I coined the term because a Neo Judaizer is someone that is willing to deny aspects of the faith. And some of these parts of the faith that are anti Judaic are hard for modern modern ears to hear. But if somebody denies these aspects of faith to appease the Jews or out of fear of the Jews, then they risk losing their own faith.
And you know what? They're not even helping the Jews. They're not even helping them convert because they're affirming them in their false faith. Right. And that's the whole purpose of us in life is to correct each other. Yeah, it's lose like, this is not a win win situation. They, they are presenting their, what they're doing is a win win situation. Like, oh, let's be friends with Jews. And that way we win and they win and we all get to be friends and everything's good and we all get to go to God together. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's not how it works theologically. The way it works theologically is these Jews that you're not converting, Simone and James and the rest of the Filos project, these Jews that you're not converting, they're gonna go to hell.
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Right? And not only that, they're gonna create rules in society, unchallenged. Well, of course. That will be the destruction of Christian morality, just morality in general.
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Absolutely. And you know what? The neo Judaizers for denying these these aspects of faith, you know what's gonna happen to them? They're also going to go to hell because they're denying these aspects of faith that are that that are part of scripture, tradition, and magisterium and have been for the past two thousand years. And if they were ignorant and, like, most people are are, let's let's let's be charitable here. Most people are ignorant when it comes to the Jews, on church teaching and the Jews. If they were ignorant, God would have mercy on them. Of course, he would. But these people aren't ignorant, Right, Patrick? You know? They know these teachings. They know these teachings. In one of her videos that I in one of the Filos Project videos, they had doctor professor Andre Villeneuve who, he went went to one of the Hebrew universities to get his, theo theology degree. Catholic. And they had him on there, and they're and Simone's like she's like, you know what, doctor Andre? She's like, you know what my my problem is, is when all virtually all the church fathers say these things about the Jews, how do we say all the church fathers are wrong and we're right?
We? That's what she said. That is, that is what that that's a that is a statement of that is a modernist statement. That is that that's not Catholic doc. We don't deny the church father. If we know the church fathers all agreed on something, we don't deny it. We say, yeah, that's what we believe because we're Catholic. So they know. And if you watch what happened with that last week, Trent with Trent Horn, he even he even made it clear too that he knows this is what the church fathers and doctors and and previous popes teach. They know this. Now is he being financed, do you think, by Paul Singer's group? Is he part of the Filos, or is he separate? That's I I think he's just a crypto Jew. I mean, he is his he's Jewish from his father's side. Sure.
Yeah. I I think he's he's an actual crypto Jew, and I think that's what these a lot of these neo Judaizers, not all of them are are Jews. Right? Like, I'm talking about Simone and this James guy. They're not Jews. Simone, she I mean, she's a Middle Eastern. Maybe she is Jewish. I don't know because she says she's half Armenian, half Egyptian. And how do you look at someone that's half Armenian and half half Egyptian and, like, look at their physiognomy and, like, compare it to a Jew, it looks basically the same. Right?
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But anyways It reminds me this this idea of the crypto Jews being prevalent in in still to this day. I there's a author, David Koetzer, who's Jewish. He's a script writer who's writing a script for Steven Spielberg and this sort of thing. He wrote a book called The Popes Against the Jews that I had read. Yeah. I saw an interview with him where he's describing in the Southwest Of America, there are a lot of crypto Jews in the clergy even. He and this is a Jew saying this. It is. It's true. It's, concerning and you just wonder, well, who are they then? And
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what do we do about it? What what what can we do about it? What should we do about it? Well, yeah. I mean and that's I think that's where this neo Judaizing comes from. I mean, that's been a big part of my research. It's like, who's who's really pushed neo Judaizing? And if you look at it, it's it's Jewish converts and Catholicism. Now they'll say things like, well, there's no need for modern crypto Jews because the crypto Jews we had in the past, and they are different. They're more of a neo crypto Jew because the crypto Jews in the past, they they only converted because they felt like they had to convert in order to get some sort of, like, political gain or social gain out of it. Right? They only did it because they felt coerced to do it for some sort of temporal gain. Right?
Whereas the modern crypto Jews, these neo crypto Jews are converting specifically, it seems, to Judaize the faith, to actually to to infiltrate the church and Judaize it. You look at Nostra Aetate from Vatican 2, and I know both you and I, ascent to Vatican 2. Right? None neither of us are we're not we're not here. Right? So we ascent the Vatican too. But if you but, like and you've may probably read some of my stuff or heard some of my takes on it. With Nostra Aetate, I do my best to reconcile it with tradition, and I I I I can from a textualist, textualist, stance.
However, if you look at the history of Nostra Aetate, the three priests, and I forget their names, but the three priests that drafted I know one was John Osterreicher. Yeah. Yeah. They're, they're all, they're all Jew. They, they were all Jewish Catholics. And, and the reason Nosfer Atate was, was put together at all was because, John the twenty third, was friends with, who was it? He was friends with this rich, rich, rich Jewish guy. He was very pope and, Jules Isaac. There we go. Jules Isaac. So Jules Isaac before. Jules Isaac was, the one that pushed for John the twenty third to to, you know, have the second Vatican council in order to write Nostra Aetate.
And the intention was the intention was to change the church teaching on the Jews. That was the intention. They wanted to change the church teaching and they wanted to say Jules Isaac's intention. Yeah. The the yeah. It was Jules Isaac's intention, and it was the the the ones that were trying to push for this. Their intention, the modernist, even in the council I mean, because even in the council, you had, Cardinal Bea, who and his henchmen, everybody, everybody knows, everybody knows father Malachi Martin for being, you know, the, the, the third Fatima secret guy, the one that wrote, wrote, wrote, wrote the books in the nineties and that, that, that did the, the, you know, coast to coast AM show with Art Bell. Right? But what people don't remember is that in the sixties, Malachi Martin was a a Jesuit under Cardinal Bea that was a liaison to the Jews.
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So He was paid by the American Jewish Committee.
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Yes. Yes. So Cardinal Bea yeah. So he was working with the enemy. Right? So we gotta keep that in mind. So he, him, and Cardinal Bea, they were working with the America Jewish Jewish Committee. They were working with, like, Abraham, Joshua Herschel, Max Horkheimer, who was of the Frankfurt School. Right? Max Horkheimer was of the Frankfurt School, which came up with critical race theory, critical gender theory, DEI and all that garbage that we have to suffer through today. Right? And so Yeah. The who was the guy that did the Oregon
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energy stuff? I forget the guy the guy's name. He was another one of those Frankfurt guys.
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But it anyway Yeah. But yeah. But yeah. These guys these guys that were they were trying to change church teaching. It was it was. The intent behind it was that they wanted to change the church teaching to say that the Jews are our greatest allies, that they wanted to change it to where they say Jews can be saved through their own covenant, so dual covenant theology, and they wanted to completely abrogate the fact that the Jews are guilty for deicide and that the Jews are guilty, that the Jews curse themselves, etc.
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Yet, yet in text it doesn't. Yeah, exactly. In text of it does doesn't. And one of the first one of the first, subjects of the council was actually on the media. Mhmm. And because the media had gotten out of control by that point, by '63 or '62 when it had started, and the first thing that they focused on was we need to get a handle of the media because right now things are out of control, they're spinning out of control. And that was the focus of the bishops and these bishops were traditional bishops. Right. They they were looking out for the good of the church and they called an, council in order to figure out how best to address the the, storm of the modern world and keep people in the ship and keep them from bailing.
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Right. Yeah. But with Nostra Aetate, I mean, the result is yeah. I mean, I agree with you in that you've probably may maybe you've read some of my stuff or heard some of my stuff on Nostra Aetate. I I do believe that we can reconcile it textually.
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Yeah there's the tradition. Like E. Michael Jones says, there's the text where they say that, the Jews are the older brother in, in, you know, and where the Christians are the younger brother, well
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the Esau and Jacob. And and Cain and Abel. Cain and Cain and Abel. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. And, like, even in, like and I've got an argument, like, I I call it the subject verb object argument. The the Nostra Aetate says we can't act as if the God rejected the Jews. Well, we don't believe that. We believe the opposite. We believe that the Jews reject God. Rejecting Christ. Yes. Right. Exactly. And it also says we can't act as if God cursed the Jews, and we actually don't believe that either. If you actually read what themselves by
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by going along with it, and they continue to Absolutely. By continuing to say like, you'll you talk to any Jew,
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they'll say that Jesus was a false prophet. He was a magician from Egypt and all this kind of other crazy stuff that they Yep. The Jews cursed themselves. Yeah. Absolutely. So, so this is, this is so we can totally square with tradition. It's just, it's just, yeah, it's just, but, but here's here's the thing, the way it's interpreted since Vatican two, I mean, I do like, and, you know, you and I agree on this, obviously, that the Holy Ghost did, did prevent, you know, the church from actually teaching error through this. Right. But at the same time, it is written in a way, unfortunately, that the Neo Judaizers can and do use it
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to promulgate their errors. And that's that's You know how they do it is because it isn't there a a section where they they say that they reject all forms of antisemitism? Isn't that Right. Right. Of the mess.
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And it's like E. Michael Jones says, or, you know, well, it's antisemitism. Antisemitism is just who the Jews hate. Right. Who the Jews don't like. That's what the definition of antisemitism is today. Right.
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And that's why it's such a powerful word that they use over and over again to get people the sheeple the sheeple is the William Cooper used to call them. Yes. Exactly. To get them to believe it because it's like, oh, Nazi, antisemitism, Hitler. You just say those words, and it's like, oh, we're supposed to shutter.
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Heartstrings. Yeah. I mean, if you watch that that that the the conference the other day, that's all they did. That's all Trent Horn did. That's all the rest of them did too is pull out heartstrings. And then when it came to theological and when it came to factual things, like, oh, yeah. And then then, you know, these these people, you know, Sean Horn will say, and then these people will make claims like the Jews run the media in Hollywood and push pornography and push feminism and stuff, which are all Provely. These are all verifiably true. I mean, you you see me like, I prove I I have videos where I prove this stuff in two minutes. Right? It's it's that easy to prove. Like, these get dismissed because they pull on the heartstrings,
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and they get they put people in a state of emotion instead of a state of logic. I used to listen to David Duke a lot, and he knows all the people and the and you could list all the facts even though he's not you know, I wouldn't call him a Catholic, but he's, you know, easy. He he is one he is he is one of my,
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he's one of my, what is it? He's, not idols. He's he's one of my,
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Well, you could call him like an inspiration
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as far as, like, his authorship of what he's Yeah. How how he he does scholarship. How he presents things because the reason because if you watch my videos or or read my articles, I definitely emulate his style a lot because I remember watching him back in the day, all he did was he would just say, to prove what the Jews are saying and doing, he would just read Times of Israel or the Jerusalem Post or because the Jews will just, they They're all open with it. Yeah. They can't help but to brag about it at some point. It's like the website, Jewishcontributions.com. I reference that all the time. You know, they can't help but to brag about it. So it's like, that's what I do in my videos and in my my articles. I just quote their own sources. You know? Even the Talmud, it's like, I don't use you know? And it it irks me when I see these guys that that, get, like, Talmud quotes from these quote, unquote anti Semitic sites. You know? Like and they they spread them around, and then that irks me because then the neo Judaizer types will just be like, oh, you just got that from an anti Semitic site.
Don't do that. Do what I do. I go to sephoria.org. Sephoria Org is a verifiably Jewish site, and I go to I go right there and I find the quotes. I quote them directly from their source. That's how we gotta do things. Right? We gotta quote them from their sources, you know, and it's when we do it, it's it's just it's so easy.
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They can't refute us. I've been coming across, Catholic resources too because with the Spiros project, you have to bring them the Catholic perspective as well.
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Absolutely. On the topic
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of particularly Judaizing of the Catholic. Because it Absolutely. That that That's why we need to be on guard of of what's going on
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in that area. Absolutely. That's why I don't know if you, like, saw this, but, a couple weeks ago, I created a new tab on my website. Christ my website's christtheking.info, by the way, for anybody, out there. But there's a tab called Catholic resources on the Jewish question. And all it is is just I just have a bunch of resources from the church fathers. Like, I have the Douay Rheims Bible, the Catina Bible. I have the epistle epistle of Barnabas, the seven epistles of Saint Ignatius of Antioch,
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the martyrdom of Polycarp, dialogue with Triphill by Saint Justin Martyr. You know, like, I have, you know, I have New Advent is a good one, and I was quoting some of those. Now you noticed in the commentary, we'd post stuff in that Filos, conference thing, and it'd get deleted right away. And then and this is this is a normal tactic on YouTube that Yeah. That's quite often used. Yeah. If they don't like what you say, they'll just delete it and then you have to Yeah. Sit and make your argument over and over again in order to get anywhere. But they, you know, the the antisemitism thing is a is a big deal. So we're talking about Nostra Aetate and they say all forms of antisemitism.
But I can go back and I've through this David Koetzer's book, the Jewish David Koetzer, who wrote The Popes Against the Jews back in February, he had mentioned Karl Lueger, who was a Catholic mayor of Austria during the time that Adolf Hitler was in his painting theory, you know, he's in the into painting, architectural painting, and this sort of thing in Vienna. And that's where he first learned about the anti Semitic party, which was what Karl Lueger was part of. He was the leader of it. And that was based out of Dresden, but it was also it was also a socialist thing. So it was kind of like they lost through the culture camp in Germany that took place where it's basically you take all of the Catholic schools, you close them down, and you put all the children into public schools.
Right. That's what they did. And they the Catholics were furious about this, and they wanted it so that they could teach the faith to children without the government stepping in. Well, there's compromises that were taking place, and there was a group called the Chris Christian Socialists at a certain point where they formed a coalition with the German nationals, which were mostly Protestants, in order to create something that could oppose the National Liberal Party, which was mostly Jewish, and they were backed by France and England, in particular England, where they were the main party in Vienna, but it was such a degenerate place in the late eighteen hundreds mid to late 1800s. You had Jews and you had pro prostitution all over the place. Capital you know, the usury was out of control.
And Karl Lueger was a a lawyer who worked for the poor. He didn't take much he didn't take hardly any money for what he did in protecting the poor people, and he was constantly in a battle to get into any sort of power position within their their, Reichsbot or whatever they call it. Like the Reichstatt, it's the Austrian version. They they even the Holy Roman Emperor the Habsburg tried to prevent him from becoming mayor because he was getting pressure because he's got loans to the Roth from the Rothschilds and this sort of thing that he's beholden to.
But eventually they had no choice because what happened was Vienna tripled in size and it using democratic principles against the national liberals, he was able to get into power as mayor of Vienna. And it was, like, just a a rebirth of art and architecture and culture and the the church and the clerics all supported him. Mhmm. But the thing of it is, it was called the antisemitic party. And you read in that the article that I posted in the comment to the Filos Filos Project, It's about Karl Lueger in the Catholic Encyclopedia. And there they say, well, this is what Semitism meant back then.
Semitism in Vienna had come to mean political corruption and oppressive capitalism, and that's why they created this the anti Semitic party because that's what that had come to mean because it essentially it's Judaism that you're talking about when you're talking about semitism. Mhmm. It's just another word for Semitism. So it's but then again you had people like William Marr at the same time. He was also kind of a liberal. He wasn't he wasn't this, like, he isn't what he wasn't like a Hitler or anything. But he he tried to establish it based on purely physical terms, race you know, physical racial features and all this kind of stuff and trying to get it Instead of saying that Jews can be converted and come to Christ, he was trying to say, well, genetic determinism type behavior is determined by the, you know, the Darwin was real popular at the time, becoming very more and more prevalent. Right.
And trying to mix that into the politics, the enlightened enlightenment really threw a monkey wrench into things in that regard. But if you go back, antisemitism was not always a bad thing. And the church even taught that it wasn't a bad thing. But they're not willing to promote it now because most people don't know about it. How many people know about Karl Luger? But if you read Mein Kampf, you see that Hitler abhorred the idea of antisemitism at first. But then he saw how popular Karl Luger was and what was happening in the culture by the Jewish the Jewish influence in society. And that's why he started to notice that it was corrupt. But he didn't believe he believed more in the German national position, which was the Protestant.
I think his name was George, Schonerer. And he he's the one that came up with it. The Sieg, you know, where they go Sieg Heil. That sort of thing, you know, getting people to coalesce under nationalism and it's kind of like a racial nationalism, but it's a, like a racial determinism, like you're born into whatever you're born into and you can't change it. You're either Arian or you're a whatever.
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Yes. Yes. So that is the church teaching. So if you look, me and, doctor Deep State, we went through, La Civilta Cattolica. Yep. That's a Jesuit publication under that's that's actually under the popes. They they gotta give their final Vatican approval. It still exists. Yeah. It still exists. But in 1890, they released this was still under Pope Leo the thirteenth, who was the same pope that gave his gave the blessing to Karl Lou Luger's party. Right? So under the same pope, Pope Louis the thirteenth, this, the Jewish question was, discussed in in the series of articles in 1890. Yeah. It was the hundred year anniversary of the French revolution. Yes. And, and their definition and me and me and doctor Deep State, we went through this line by line in several videos behind a paywall, unfortunately, on on his local which I was on his local's channel. But it's good stuff if you wanna pay $5 a month. But, anyways, we towards the beginning of the first article, they talk about the definition of like, really what the Catholic definition of the Jews. And they and the Catholic definition is rejecting this notion
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of Jews being a biological race. And they can't convert. That's the Yeah. Yeah. That we because that's what Hitler said. Hitler said, well, the Jews I don't believe the Jews can convert to anything, so we're just gonna treat them different. And that's an error.
[00:48:04] Unknown:
Yep. That's that's a theological error. So that's why that's that's really the big distinction between us and and, like, why the why did these Nazis and why I often push back against these, quote, online, quote, unquote, Nazi Catholics because we do believe that Jews are redeemable. We believe that it's not a biological question. It's a question and now there is an ethnic part of it. There is both a religious and an ethnic part of it. Right? But the Family is important. Yeah. The ethnic part of it is just based on how, like, the curse works and how their how, like, how the the imitation of their fathers works. Right? Because with Jews, it's like, you know, they have when they have children, you know, these Jews are, you know, they're under the same blood curse. Right? And what what does that mean? And that's more in how they react to the name of Jesus.
Right. Right. What what what did it's it's just a generational curse, which basically means exactly what you're saying, that they're more inclined to reject Jesus because of their ancestors. Right? And and it's not only a nature thing, but it's also a nurture thing. If you're born a Jew, right, you're more inclined to reject Jesus because it's your nature, because of your ancestors, your generational curse, but you're also more inclined to reject him because you're if you're born into, like, let's say, an orthodox Jewish family that reads the town mood where it says Jesus is in is in hell and boiling excrement because he's a heretic, then, of course, you're more inclined to believe that. Right? So, yeah, I mean, so there there's there's an ethnos thing and and there's a religious aspect too, but we do believe Jews are redeemable and that they can convert to Catholicism even though, unfortunately, it's it's not very it's not very common. You know? And these neo Judaizers, they're not helping. They're not helping. By by affirming Jews and their false beliefs, they're unfortunately part of the problem and not part of the solution.
[00:50:03] Unknown:
Yeah. And I think of brother Nathaniel who converted to Orthodox Christianity and Russian Orthodox in particular. And it's interesting still, though, he has this hang up on white civilization being somehow a redeeming thing, you know, the biggest challenge to Jewish power is white civilization. And it's like, well, white isn't a good definition for it because it kind of then becomes like that, that socialist mentality of like it doesn't matter what, you know, what your belief is you just have, you know you have to be from this ethnic group and that'll solve it if you have racial co you know coalescing on gaining power somehow over over it but I don't think that's gonna ultimately stand because you have to have Catholic principles and it doesn't matter where they come from on what continent you're from if you're a Catholic.
You have the faith and that's gonna be what leads the civilization into greatness and into by that I mean greater happiness in following God and being a just person and having just laws in society and not all of these things that we have now where it's easy divorce, you know everything else that comes from that where you have, just wars going on for no no good reason. Like, there's, there's no good reason for the war in Ukraine. You have brothers fighting brothers, Russians fighting Russians.
[00:51:44] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[00:51:44] Unknown:
And they're being pitted against each other by people who don't even live there and and who won't even send their sons to go and fight.
[00:51:53] Unknown:
Yep.
[00:51:55] Unknown:
It's that sort of, societal corruption, and I think that's what we're trying to turn around here with what we're doing. Yeah. I see it's coming to the top of the hour here. I'm probably gonna let you go because I know you're a busy man. You got a family that, you pray with, and, I really appreciate you coming on. It's been Thanks, Patrick. Quite fun. And I hope to talk to you again sooner than we did last time. So, I'm gonna end it here and everybody, this is Catholic State. He's, you can go to catholicstate.org.
[00:52:29] Unknown:
Is that correct? It's it's either catholicstate.com or christtheking.info.Dotinfo.
[00:52:36] Unknown:
Okay. Good. Yeah. And you can, this is Radio Windmiller, so RadioWindmiller.com. I do twenty four seven. I try to keep it as Catholic as possible. I put some stuff on there that yeah. I just try to get a feel for what the alternative media says, so I put other things on that I I monitor, but I try to keep it as Catholic as possible. Like, I have Vatican radio. I try to keep in contact with them. Like, I've been making contact with, especially the for some reason, it's easier to reach the Vatican English for Africa Department of Vatican than the actual Vatican people, news people.
[00:53:16] Unknown:
Interesting.
[00:53:17] Unknown:
Because they're more approachable. I mean, in Africa, it's a poorer country, they're less pretentious. I mean, it's, it's probably the fastest growing Catholic population in the world right now is in Africa. Mhmm. So, and I think, what we have going on, we need to get as much contact with other churches, Catholic churches, I mean, in the world as possible and create a network so we we can create our own media so we can have five times the amount that the, you know, the the Jewish media is right now. We we need five times that amount in order to combat what's going on and the lies and deception.
So, thank you very much and I'm gonna end it right here. So You're welcome. Thanks everybody. God bless. Yep.
Introduction and Background
The Filos Project and Jewish Converts
Personal Spiritual Journey
Public Ministry and Spiritual Challenges
Critique of the Filos Project
Paul Singer and Usury
Zionism and Catholicism
Nostra Aetate and Church Teachings
Historical Perspectives on Antisemitism
Concluding Thoughts and Future Directions
