Patrick Chenal welcomes Jack from California to discuss their shared passion for radio and the influence of radio personalities like Paul English and Andrew Carrington Hitchcock. Jack shares his personal journey into radio, inspired by his father's love for call-in shows and the vibrant radio culture of Detroit. They reminisce about the rich history of Detroit's music scene and the impact of radio on their lives, highlighting the timeless nature of the medium and its ability to educate and entertain while multitasking.
The conversation also delves into broader topics, including the evolution of radio, the influence of Jewish media, and the cultural shifts in America. Jack reflects on his move from Detroit to California, drawn by the allure of the outdoors and a different lifestyle. The episode touches on conspiracy theories, the role of media in shaping public perception, and the importance of critical thinking in navigating today's complex world. Patrick and Jack emphasize the value of communication and the power of radio as a tool for sharing ideas and fostering understanding.
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Alright. We're here with, this is Patrick Chanel, and I'm here with, Jack from California. Today is 04/05/2025. So, Jack, welcome to the show. Well,
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welcome. Thank you, Patrick. Pleasure to, join you on this new venture of yours.
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Yeah. Thanks. It's quite fun. I I I'm doing this more as, you know, it's just my thing. It's it's something I like to listen to, and I've got a few other, you know, very loyal listeners. And it's it's been going good so far, and I'm I'm, quite pleased. I've had a lot of help from other people, especially like Paul English. He's shown me a lot about how to run a radio station, the different software that you need, and the scheduling, and the discipline of keeping a schedule, that kind of stuff. And, yeah, like how so, tell tell us a little bit about yourself. I I hear you, calling often to fetch over at Inside the iLive.
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Well, first, I'll say that, Paul English is a good chap, and, I used to listen to him a lot with, Andrew Carrington Hitchcock, on Andy's program, every morning for some time. But I got into radio, and I was influenced by radio by my dad. My dad listened to a lot of call in radio. And, my dad was in the car a lot. He was a Wayne County Sheriff Deputy, and he worked for the probate division. So he was always delivering subpoenas in Wayne County around Detroit. And he'd record live radio with tape player and, you you know, listen to the tapes. And that's what I recall in terms of, my relationship with live radio, Colin, aside from growing up in the Motor City, Rock City with, you know, WRIF and WLLZ and a lot of great talk radio in Detroit. I think it's probably the one of the biggest markets in the country.
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That yeah. It's the main street of America, if you could you could put it that way.
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Yeah. So he would take reel to reel, or was it cassette decks? How how would he do it? Oh, the old cassette decks. Yeah. And, you have that tape player that was above that about, you know, eight by five or so. Sort of like a three or four inches thick and have a bunch of Blake tapes, and he'd play the radio off his dash of his car and record whatever
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he wanted to, I guess. Yeah. What do you remember him listening to?
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I don't remember. You don't remember? I didn't listen to you know, I could probably dig those tapes up. But, no. I I never you know, it was probably things that kids' history and, language and whatever. You know, Detroit had has WDET, which broadcasts live from the campus of Wayne State University in Downtown Detroit, and they have great programming, great music, great, it's you know, NPR is tied to it, but they have a lot of great local radio programs. I used to listen to a lot of jazz. The Ed Love Jazz Show was my big show, and then, you know, I tuned into NPR.
You know, twenty five, thirty years ago, I wasn't really paying attention to the left leaning narrative of NPR, but, you know, I was supposedly getting the news.
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Yeah. Yeah. I was into NPR for a while because it's the it's like it's the only thing on FM that's talk radio. At least at the time, they you had some sports stuff, but not anything like it is now where you just turn on any FM station. There's two or three sports channels. In our little rural market here, We're in the Minneapolis Saint Paul market, so we get a lot of their the Twin Cities news and stations. Usually, it's WCCO, CBS, and then it was KSTP, which is, what are they? They're ABC, NBC, it's AB, no, what would KSTP be? They are ABC. The alphabet agencies. Yeah, well there are only three of them. There are only three of them. And, really, NPR is kind of its own thing. It's like the branch of the movie. Narrative.
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Right. You would think you you thought twenty five and thirty years ago that NPR was the alternative, you know, viewpoint. They were really well produced, you know, those editorial, you know, radio programs, exposes, what have you. But, you know, radio is a great medium. And despite technology evolving and changing, it really hasn't been replaced. And it its span, especially now with archives, is timeless. So, you know, I can listen to Paul English in The United Kingdom and Andy Carrington Hitchcock and Blackbird in North Carolina and the Fetch in Saudi Arabia and, Jim Fetzer in Wisconsin and and it goes on and on and on. Robert Rayvolts on Sunday nights on RVN.
There's, you know, and of Scorpio and, Giuseppe on freedom, truth, justice. You know? So there's a lot of great stuff going on, and it's really an amazing education. The great thing about radio is you can multitask. You could do things while you're listening, which is what I really like.
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Yeah. The chat, I that's kinda kinda how I got into it. I started listening listening I think how I got into this crowd, you could say this crowd being, like, the the people you just listed, listed off, they came to my attention. I think it was, I was introduced to Jeff Rentz through doctor Deagle, Bill Deagle, which was on Genesis, which is Alex Jones' big or used to be Alex Jones's big broadcaster that he went through. I think Ted was it Ted Anderson? He ran that out of somewhere in Bloomington or somewhere in Minnesota, you know, the Twin Cities.
And so Bill Deagle, and then he introduced me to Jeff Rentz, and I started listening to Rentz. And it just opened up a whole lot of things because he's got quite the prolific show. Regardless of what you think of what he produces, it's, you know, I I think he a lot of his stuff is, some of the people he has on there just are very questionable in my opinion. Some of the people not so much though, like David Duke. I remember listening to David Duke. And I think the first time I was exposed to him, it was David Duke interviewing Gilad Ostman, which was an eye opener.
After that, it just that that that was the one show I remember that just woke me up to the Jewish problem as a and being able to outwardly say it as a problem and not not, not be wrong
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and not Well, it's not my my first Jewish problem was in elementary school when the principal, who was a Jew, took the paddle to my ass. That was my first Jewish problem. Yeah. Yeah. Wilson Elementary School named after our famous president that, helps the Federal Reserve become institute in 1913.
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Oh, wait. Yeah. That's true. That's true. And then he also got us into World War one through blackmailing. That as a kid, you know, but I do remember in elementary class standing up and doing the Pledge of Allegiance every morning. I don't know if that's done anymore. Yeah. Well, you know what they used to do? And and I learned this from Andy Hitchcock that in England, up until it was, like, the late seventies, maybe early eighties, they used to start with the our father prayer in school, in public school over there. Interesting. Yeah. Which we didn't even have anything near that growing up. At least I didn't.
I I suppose if if you went to a Catholic school or some sort of Christian school, maybe you would get that, but not at a public school. So and our our public school is a very Masonic socialist institute where it's, you know, conglomeration of all the religions and the, you know, like, nobody speaks ill of the other, and they really ingrain that into you in in that, environment. And I think that I kind of avoided that up until the eighth grade. I think it was the eighth grade I stopped going to government school. And so so I didn't get as much of the indoctrination that that I probably would have if I had stayed going on that course, but, I ended up being schooled by my family. So I have a little bit more of an understanding and a willingness to look outside of the box and and and that sort of thing. I think because of that.
At least that helped.
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Same for me. Same for me.
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Yeah. And you grew up in Detroit.
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Right? Yeah. My my dad, and his, family grew up in the depression. My dad's parents were Armenian immigrants, And, he and his older brother, who's a World War two veteran, you know, grew up in 1930 to nineteen fifties, you know, classic Americana, Detroit. And, they both were in the military. My dad was first a tank mechanic at 17 in Frankfurt, Germany, and then he came back to Highland Park, Michigan, which is around six to seven mile in Woodward Avenue. It's a city within the city of Detroit. Is that near Ford? Ford? Yeah. And the Ford, Ford's, plant on Manchester Street
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So it's near Crossing Woodward Avenue. Is that near Then the Highland Park because it's interesting coincidence being that in Saint Paul, my grandfather was a security guard at the Ford factory in near Highland Park. Interesting. Yeah. They made Ford Ranger pickup. Park there in Minnesota. That's crazy. Yeah. They made tractors and then pickups. Ford Rangers until it moved to Mexico.
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Well, this was Ford's first fully automated plant where they made model t's and model a's. And, you know, my dad grew up in that town. He was born there. He was born in Highland Park Hospital. And, his brother and his father, spent their entire lifetimes working at the Ford Motor Company. And I've got three generations of family that have worked at Ford or the big three. So, there's a rich heritage and history in Detroit for a lot of people, but strong heritage for Americana. You know, we were talking about it previously, you know, between father Coughlin, Henry Ford, and Charles Lindbergh.
I would say those were the big three. You know? They were the titans of the day.
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America First. They were all associated with Detroit, Michigan, for that matter, because that that's where Charles Lindbergh's Charles Lindbergh Junior, his mother was from Michigan. When, Charles Lindbergh Senior, who later became the senator of Minnesota, he married a gal when he was going to the University of Michigan, law school, and it was one of the first law schools in the country, I believe. But, previous to that, he was married to a gal who was my great grandfather's aunt. I believe it was his aunt. And, or great aunt. I think it was his aunt, though.
And he ended up growing up with them in Little Falls, Minnesota, which is not, you know, not too far relatively from here. He went to he ended up, well, Charles senior ended up going to school in what would be the high school age at Collegeville, Minnesota, and he was educated by Benedictine monks. And there's a Benedictine monastery there that That's interesting. They it was it's at the time, I believe it was the largest Benedictine monastery in the world. And In Minnesota? In Minnesota in College Collegeville, I believe is the the town that they were based out of.
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Yeah. Are they making beer there?
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I don't know, but since then, it's become a real wreck. I in the fifties, after the war, just after the war, I don't know if you're familiar with the Bauhaus architecture of just, like, ugly apartment complex flats in Germany, the Weimar type architecture. Well, one of the architects, one of the youngest architects from the Bauhaus school, they they instead of hiring a Catholic architect to build and design their their new church, the new the new church in the 50s for the for the monastery, they hired a Jew from the Bauhaus School architect, and it's just a monstrosity looking building now that you you see there. It's just ugly.
You don't even know it's a church. You know, a lot of these churches, they look like spaceships. We call them I I you know, they they look like something that doesn't even belong, doesn't have a, you know, real purpose. Just ugly. And instead of the old architects, you know, like a tech you think of a cathedral, you think of Chartres or Notre Dame or Saint Peter's Basilica in Rome or these old churches in Germany. A frames. Yeah. Now now they're a frame yeah. Just simp simple geometric things, and it's just ugly.
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A lot of churches in Detroit and,
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Yeah. Father Conference Church you're you're talking about, his his little parish.
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Yeah. I grew up not too far from that church on 12 Mile Woodward Avenue in Royal Oak, Michigan. And, I never went during a service, but I I did go inside the cathedral and walked the grounds, on a nice summer day. It's a it's a pretty, church. It's not really huge, but it probably, you know, can hold a
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thousand or 2,000 people. Well, that's pretty big. Yeah. It's it's a decent size. I I wonder how he used to broadcast from there. Because didn't he broadcast from from where he lived in the rectory or somewhere near the church? Apparently, he lived in Bloomfield Hills, which is a couple of miles north in
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a more upper middle class neighborhood. That's where he died, but, I don't know where he broadcast the show from. I think it could be straight from the rectory at the church in the cathedral. I think it might be pictures of him. And now he's behind a speaker phone, and he was maybe recording those shows live while he had, you know, his pews and parishioners filled with them. But, to, you know, talk about classical architecture, I was fortunate to roam the grounds of the University of Michigan law quad and go to its main library. It's it's a very beautiful university in Ann Arbor, and one of the best schools in the nation, if not around the world, for a lot of their graduate programs.
But, oddly enough, one time, back in the eighties in Hart Plaza in Downtown Detroit, Absolut Vodka and the Ford Motor Corporation would sponsor the Montreux Detroit Jazz Festival. And it was a sister jazz festival taking place in Montreux, Switzerland. And for, like, five days from 10AM till ten at night, they had three stages going on, main stage and two stages with jazz, music of all genres. And I saw a lot of great jazz musicians at those three music shows.
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Yeah. And, Isn't Detroit known for its music? It's Motown. Right? Isn't that what they call it? Motortown, Motown?
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Lot of, man lot of manufacturing innovation in the music world as well as in the auto world, auto and aerospace. A lot of, I guess, you know, like Germany, a lot of creativity, a lot of IP and patents and so forth. I think maybe the cold weather has a little bit something to do with that when you're stuck in the house during a cold blizzard during the wintertime. But, yeah, a lot of a lot of first started in Detroit. I think the CB radio, the Coney Island hotdog, I think street lights were Chicago. You know? But,
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You know, I I was a little or reading earlier today about Gibson Musical Instruments, like Les Paulson. Yeah. They're there. Yeah. They're in Kalamazoo. They were they were based there for quite a while. Then they moved to Nashville, but, that was not but recently.
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Yeah. And Ted Nugent, you know, who plays a Gibson Birdland hollow body guitar and, a lot of great musicians. Don Henley, he went to Royal Oak High School. Oh, tons of music. Eagles. Yeah. A lot lot of just music innovation, and the radio world of as well. But, there's so much history there. And I I think Detroit was the most populated city in North America in the turn of the century in the 1900. Mhmm. But a lot of people just funneled through. They didn't stay. They probably pushed on to Chicago and Minnesota, you know, and all those towns in Wisconsin.
And then, you know, perhaps even went further towards the Dakotas. And for the real bowl, they went out to, you know, Montana and Idaho and Nevada and picked up land for next to nothing. You know?
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Yeah. Right. I know my my, grandpa, the one that was related to the Lindbergh family, his family ended up going out to Montana and being, kinda like, I I know we we had one relative that set up a butcher shop, and there was a competing butcher shop run by Hormel, And the Hormel people went to all the farmers and said, if you ever go to their their, butcher shop, we'll never do business with you. And then put in putting in my family's butcher shop out of business back in the day. So they, you know, it's and then I think, like, Grand Forks and all these places, they had a lot of airplane traffic going through there during World War two, going up from the factories in California and then up through the through Alaska into Russia for the, lend lease program that they had where they were supplying the the Soviets with armaments and air aircraft and all sorts of things like that.
So how did you end up moving out to California
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for Michigan? I just got I just, visited in '95, a friend that grew up in Detroit and, was going to school out here. And his grandparents had a second home in North Orange County, and they're an old Italian. The man was a Sicilian, a %, and, the woman, my my friend's grandmother was a % Armenian. And they, they're quite successful couple, and they have a very successful business in Downtown Detroit. They supplied the big three and called Continental Paper Supply, huge warehouse. And, I eventually came out and visited him and drove back to Detroit with his little brother who didn't like it out here, oddly enough. And wanted to return back to Detroit.
And, we did a drive back to the, you know, the Motor City from North Orange County. And when I visited four years later in '99, I was returning back to Detroit Metropolitan Airport, and I left the sun and was landing into Detroit Metropolitan Airport. And it was cloudy gray and, like, 55 on a, you know, midsummer day. And I was like, god. I gotta get out of this place. And, that's how I was motivated. I was interested in communications, and I was interested in pursuing the film industry as a actor and a writer and a cinematographer because I'm into photography.
But I was forewarned, at the age of 17, that I had to be Jewish or gay going to work in the film industry.
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Oh, yeah. Who told you that?
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It It was my dad's, cousin who has connections into the, film industry from a finance perspective. And, he's a retired navy captain down in San Diego. And the old school ring knocker from the Annapolis
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What's a what's a ring knocker?
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Someone that went to the one of the military academies, West Point or the Naval Academy, versus if you went to reserve officer training corps at a university, they distinguish the guys that go to the academies as ring knockers.
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I guess they just their their ring signifies that they went to one of the military academies. They went they went straight straight there rather than, sideways type of way through the through the university system then.
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Like, my dad, you know, was a tank mechanic, and then he finished, that his service in the army and returned back to Detroit and went to community college and took, you know, calculus and physics. And eventually, he got himself accepted to the Air Force Cadet Corps, which was a program in Waco, Texas, and it was OCS to become a pilot. And I presume that the Air Force Academy was a program that was already, active, but, this was, I would say, in the mid fifties that my dad got accepted to that program. And, you know, a lot of guys that flew, in World War two pretty much went to those jump schools in a matter of months and were turned into pilots, which is quite remarkable.
I don't think that's, as easy as can be done, you know, today as it was then. Of course, it was prop planes, and now it's jets. And my dad's dream was to fly the p 51 Mustang, but he never got to fly that plane. But he grew up as a kid building balsam wood planes, he and his brother, you know, and flying them and torching them, burning them, and so forth. You know, little kids playing war or what have you. And, my dad's eldest brother was a merchant marine in World War two, and he was a pretty stoic type of dude. And he worked, for thirty five years at the Ford River Rouge steel plant.
And, so I had a very interesting perspective from two, Depression era born kids, who had a a harder childhood than I certainly had or anyone in my generation. But all the same, they thought that life was great. My dad said the fifties was the best, you know, decade that he experienced. My dad was into building cars and into boats on the Great Lakes. And, essentially, you know, that was sort of what I was raised with. My dad and my uncle could pretty much fix anything and and do anything themselves. And, I I've been out here in California sort of, you know, surfing and, don't own a lot of tools because I don't never owned a house out here.
And, essentially, I I have the capability, but I just don't practice doing a lot of the stuff. But here, the weather is different. You know? I'm I'm an outdoorsman. I spend a lot of time, you know, going to places like the desert in the winter, the the mountains in the summer. Obviously, I have the ocean year round. The kind the climate's very temperate here, and then there's micros, you know, environments, microclimates throughout the state. And, I've been sort of just immersed into being an outdoorsman, whether it's, surfing with a long board or walking barefoot on the beach or swimming in the ocean or fishing with the freshwater and a and a saltwater lysis or, hiking in the deserts, going out in the desert, shooting shooting guns on Bureau Land Management property.
Of course, the the most interesting or the most, beloved place for me is The US 395 on the Eastern Sierras. What is that? It's just a magnificent sight to behold. The the the rock erupting from the ground, the the sight to behold of this large mountain chain that, you know, is to the, west of you as you're going north on The US 395, and on the other side to the right of you is the White Mountains. And it's just all of Nevada and Northern California is just mountain ranges layered upon layered. It's just, it's a very beautiful experience.
When you go up into the mountain, there's freshwater streams and freshwater lakes. And if you start hiking the back countries and going higher in elevation and along streams to to cascading lakes. You you eventually start hiking through snow. You know, if it's, late May, then it could be 80 degrees. And, it's just a very majestic experience to be far that far back out in the middle of of nature, which is really only two ways. Now you can get there around on foot, by horse and then a helicopter. That's the only three ways to get back into the the, backcountry of the Sierra Nevadas.
But it's quite impressive all the way from, say, Lone Pine, which is where, the Lower 48, the highest peak, which a lot of people hike up to. Which is that? What's the highest peak? Oh, jeez. You know? That's what I'm saying. Name of it too. Yeah. It's in it's in Lone Pine, California. Yeah. Yeah. I wanna say Mammoth, but Mammoth is the ski resort to the north about a hundred miles to a 50 miles north of there. Yeah, people do the site, and it just doesn't appeal to me because people from LA will go up there and they get their permit at the USFS. You know, it's climbing permit because they can only allow so many people to be on those trails.
So, I've never done it. I never cared to. Just, north of there is Big Pine, where Lon Chaney, the actor, has a cabin, you know, up, like, at 10,000 elevation. And, you gotta hike back to get to his house, but, you know, that's where there's some cool hikes and, mountain ranges and valleys and alpine lakes and streams and redwood trees, all types of species. But, of course, to the right of the Eastern Sierras on The US Three Ninety Five is Death Valley and the Petrified Wood Forest, which I've been up to up in the White Mountains and so much. You could spend three, four, five lifetimes exploring The US Three Ninety Five between Lone Pine and Lake Tahoe, that being Lake Tahoe and Carson City, Nevada.
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There's just so much going on. I've I've been there. I've never been to Southern California. I've I've only been to Northern California from Reno to San Francisco and then San Jose,
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Carson City, that kind of stuff. That's awesome. That's awesome. That's the beautiful I mean, Northern California is absolutely beautiful. It's got a very interesting, topography, a lot of, interesting microclimates and environments. You know, like you say, Santa Cruz, Los Gatos. You know, there's redwood trees all throughout there. You're on the 101 Freeway north of the Bay Bridge, San Francisco Bridge. The 101 straight up to Oregon border, it's just jaw dropping beautiful. Especially, when you get close to Oregon border, there's that UNESCO designated site where it's the redwood trees, up three not on the 101. The 101 is just so cool once you get past this. You know, it's pretty cool, say, in Santa Barbara, and you get up towards the, you know, South Bay, then you gotta cross the bridge, you go through the city to cross the bridge, that sort of kills time. But once you get north of the bridge into Marin County, the 10 One's just amazing.
And you go through Humboldt County, and California is beautiful. I mean, it is the Golden State. I grew up in Michigan, the Great Lakes State. Michigan's got a lot of beautiful landscapes and sights to behold. If you're at any one of the Great Lakes, it you think you're at the ocean. And the the the, energy that's coming out of the waves could be just as brutal as the ocean depending on the wind. But, California is a very, very special place. It's it's it'd be very tough to go back to Detroit and deal with the winter knowing what's out here.
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Yeah. Yeah. Even though it's a bit, dense densely populated, besides that, you know, there's more there's more property out here to be had, but at a cheaper cheaper price, obviously, than California. Though, it sounds like you you got out there at a time when it was affordable, and it's still affordable, I'm sure. But like you said, you you you don't have as much, I don't know. I don't know what Palm Springs is affordable.
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Palm Springs is affordable. Palm Springs. And a lot of senior citizens, you know, or that demographic eventually, if they're in, you know, the the coastal of LA, San Diego, Orange County, or within 50 miles off the coast, a lot of people retire to Palm Springs because it's cheaper. And, land is more affordable, obviously, the further east you go, provided there's water. But, real estate's really jumped in the last twenty and thirty years in Inland Empire and Riverside Counties. There are some people that'll literally make the commute for, you know, an hour and a half, two hours to drive 60 or 70 miles from one of those counties that adjoins Orange or LA Counties, and they come to work towards the coast, you know, whether it be in Orange County or LA County. And then they make that drive east for, you know, a hundred miles Wow. Yeah. Every day. That's ridiculous. Yeah. That's homeownership.
So, like, you know, for me, it, I would buy land and build a a house, and I would do it in a place where I could find affordable land. And it's it's to be had in California, but, you know, most people wanna be by major business centers and have conveniences. And, yeah, I've there's I've only explored I've explored a lot in California, but, you know, I still have not yet been to, say, North Of Lake Tahoe is, a gea what is it? There's a volcano, vol Lassen Volcanic National Park. I haven't been there. I need I wanna get there. I've been to Shasta. You know, the Sierra Mountain Range is pretty much made up of all the same species, so of trees and foliage. And so it's not like I'm gonna drive all the way towards Redding to go hang camp in the Sierras.
I'll typically go to Bishop via, you know, the 15, you know, near Big Bear in Redding and and, San Bernardino and get on the 395 and just cook up. And within 300 miles from South Orange County, I could be, in Bishop in, like, six hours, you know, at nine five looking at, you know, mountain mountain peaks and freshwater streams and cooler temps and just it's a it's amazing place. It really is.
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Yeah. A lot of our produce is made there, so I I assume farming is a big deal in California.
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Yes. On the, West Side of the range, you know, is Fresno. There's a huge valley there that gets a lot of heat. And, obviously, there's entrance ways to the Sierras from the west. There's, like, six passages that go over the Sierras. And I've never completely traversed from one side to the other in one drive, but I have entered from Merced into Yosemite National Park and, one other entry point. But the most interesting and beautiful mountain pass that I've done is, South Of Lake Tahoe, and I can't think of it right this moment. But I probably shouldn't say it because then, you know, probably everything will change. Yeah. Of course, this is just Windmiller radio. It's not ABC or NBC or Instagram. Probably, Instagram's already changed a lot for it. But, yeah, there's it's just, you know I would say The US 395 is classical Americana, classic, history of cowboys, Indians, and miners.
And, that trickles a little bit on the West Side Of The Sierras, in places like Auburn, California. But, between Carson City, Virginia City, there's a lot and Lake Tahoe, there's a tremendous amount of history, that takes place there. For instance, in Virginia City, it was only two silver mines that produced all the wealth that created San Francisco. So when you go to Virginia City, it's this po dunk little mountain town, and it's like, wow. This place created San Francisco. And I would say if you ever go, you'd wanna go to the cemetery, in Virginia City.
And that's where you'll really and then there's a saloon in the main street that's like a museum. I can't remember the name of it, but it's very impressive. It's got a lot of historic data and pictures of the era when it was the land of cowboys, Indians, and gold miners, silver miners, and, outposts, and gunfights,
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and Mhmm. Sheriffs and deputies. When I when I was out there oh, go go ahead. No. You go ahead. Oh, I was gonna say I took a train out there. We went from Saint Paul all all the way out to, I think, Reno and then got off and drove from Reno to San Francisco. But it was it was beautiful. You start getting getting out past North Dakota, which is just boring flatlands. And you and you start getting into Montana and and the mountain ranges, and it's just gorgeous from there on. But,
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Yeah. You know, so Detroit's a great place to be from. You know, I think the weather is what kills it, and there's not a lot of great stuff. Appreciate it more then.
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Having grown up, you see you see what it was like in one place, and then you move to the other where you you really wanna be. And you get an appreciation that people that are from there don't necessarily have because they don't they don't get the cold. Like, here where I'm at in the in February, it it gets down to negative 30, sometimes forty, fifty. Yeah. So it's it's it's cold. And then the summertime, though, is worth it because it just everything gets green and beautiful.
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And Provided you have sun.
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Well, we have we usually get sun. Yeah. It's use it's it's usually it feels like it's, like, six months of summer, six months of winter, and you feel it. Like, the winters seem long. Summers, you know, obviously, don't they don't last long enough because you want the nice weather, but we really do get some nice weather for six months out of the year, every year. But the the six months I can't
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I can't share the same sentiment in terms of my remembering what it was like before I left. I I it seemed to me that the summers became less, consistent and were more inconsistent, and there were more gray days than there were sunny days. And you would wait you'd go through these dark cold winters. You'd wake up and it's dark. You'd get out of school or work and it's dark. And it was like that for, like, three months. You know? The light deprivation. You put on 15 pounds because all you do is sit in front of the television for five hours a night Yeah. Getting programmed with all that great Jewish media. And, and then, you know, you you'd have to burn off that big fat layer, you know, like a brown bear. But, anyhow, yeah, the weather seemed to seemed to me to not be as great as it was when I was a child. I remember the summers to be consistent. Of course, I remember moving out here and walking on the beach in South Orange County in 02/2002, '2 thousand '3 and watching them blow chemtrails and go, is anyone else seeing this? What the what the heck is this?
You know? But, it's even gotten worse. It's just like you'll wake up at 6AM and you look over the ocean horizon and it's blue water and a blue sky, and these planes start coming out and laying these lines. And by twelve noon, the sky's just, like, all milky and white. They just ruined a perfectly clear sunny day into this dystopic, like, geoengineering bullshit. And it's like, you know, that's why I came out to California. I mean, it's like Michigan's following me. But,
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Yeah. I I have a little I have a little bit different view than you about the the chemtrails thing. But
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Do you? Yeah. I I I really
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don't think it's, like, what what it doesn't seem like they would do that on purpose. I mean, why why would they do that to themselves? That's the that's the real thing that gets me. I I'm I'm really
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skeptical of Why are they effing up my weather, dude? I mean, California's expensive. It's a premium to live here. Yeah.
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Well, it it changes with the condition. So you could say that it's the planes that do it, but maybe it's just the cold front moving in.
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I know. I'm not Well, there's a, you know, my dad was a pilot and, What did what did he say? Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Well, he never saw that stuff. He died before they started laying those things out. Okay. So when when was when was that? When when did your father pass away? If you don't mind me asking. Oh, he's been gone for almost twenty five years, I believe. Okay.
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So that that's about the time when people really started, noticing and saying chem chemtrails. Because I've done some research into this because it really it kind of what got me going was listening to William Cooper talk about it because he said he he was just upset that Art Bell. Remember Art Bell?
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He I've I've heard the name, but I don't remember, like, the guy speaking. Anyways,
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so, it was him and Patricia Doyle who was a regular on with Jeff Rentz. And and she was saying that they were purposely, you know, I I forget what it was, doing something with Plum Island out near New York, and and they were creating bioweapons that were gonna be spread through the the airplanes air and that sort of Who's they? Well, then who who's they? Good question. Now you tell me. Who's they? Who's they? Yeah. Well, that's that's just it. Who who is they? This is what she was
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saying. Is this the, is this the the Rand Corporation in Santa Monica? Is this the Esalen Institute up, near Big Sur? Is Is this Stanford University? What NGO is is they saying? Yeah. Well Metallica
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Institute. That's just it. Who who do you think would would do this?
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Because I if Well, you know, it's true. Guys whatever the outcome anticipated or desired is, the bottom line is I could differentiate between a contrail and a chemtrail. And a contrail dissipates quite quickly after the precipitation leaves the turbine engine. But a chemtrail literally puts a line in the sky, and it slowly dissipates and gets wider. And then when you see them laying crossing geometric lines and doing axes and then going from the bottom of the ocean going straight up and then going from straight up straight down to the ocean, like, where is this flight path? Where are they going? What what's the where's the fuel economy in this green world?
Here we are. We're killing the Earth, and these guys are just, like, flying aimlessly everywhere all over the sky. Okay. You know?
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So who do you think is doing it? That's what I wanna get to the bottom of. Like, who who who would do who would do such a dastardly thing to everyone? And you including themselves, potentially.
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What everyone else knows, which is online or through Dane Covington on RENT and the GeoWatch or whatever his website is. And, you know, those two documentaries that came out, and I never watched them in their entirety. But, you know, technology's technology. And, we know they were seeding the clouds over a hundred years ago. We've seen we've seen documentaries of them seeding clouds and and, With balloons? Whatever. They're going up in Woah. With planes, with balloons, there's several different ways to seed clouds and create rain. But, there's a lot of documentaries out there that show you this, but whatever the case, I know we get stuck on chemtrails.
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I mean
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It's alright. You know?
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No. No. I just it's it's just intriguing to me. It's it's it's intriguing to me. You gotta admit that if as a conspiracy that that it would happen is is, quite something. They have to have a lot of power for one because airplanes, jet airplanes that are that size aren't cheap.
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Well, I would say that you tried you know, the only conspiracies you should, be introducing to the newbie is ones that you can prove. Right? The Federal Reserve, nineteen thirteen, Woodrow Wilson, Jekyll Island. You know, just stick with the stick with the pragmatic stuff, and, the esoteric stuff is, for their own discovery. But, you know, in terms of our us graduating to the level of now exploring more esoteric things, I mean, transhumanism, Elon Musk, you know, cryptocurrency
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Yeah. That's all an x mRNA. That's all a whole thing. Excuse excuse me, Jack. It's it that that goes back a long ways. Like, in the twenties and thirties, there was a group called Technocracy Inc. I believe his grandfather, what you're talking about, Musk, was part of the Technocracy Inc group which was I think Shell one of those big oil companies. I think it was Shell. One of the scientists from there was the one that he was the one who coined the term fossil fuel. Like it comes from dinosaurs and that sort of thing rather than something that's generated in the earth and replenishes itself.
It's it's a limited type of thing so only only elite the the scientists should be the ones the technocrats should be the ones in charge of government and not any sort of democratically elected type people so the elitist view like it's kind of like an aristocracy of sorts which in a way you could say an aristocracy might be good because it's the most qualified people doing the leading But at the same time, it ends up becoming who who who gets the most money and then that becomes plutocracy. And then it's plutocrats, which is like kind of what we have now. I mean, we've got a president who's a casino operator and all this kind of stuff, and it's all related to money and real estate deals.
And
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Yeah. Well, that's what Michael e Jones, discussed in his interview with you. Yeah. He's just,
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right. Yeah. What did you what did you think of that? What what did you think of that interview?
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That was good. I liked it. You know, I'm always interested in Michael, mister Jones' perspective. He seems to be, you know, sort of more diplomatic in in terms of extending the olive branch out to the Jews. You know, we're gonna we're gonna convert them. But,
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yeah. The ones that want to convert, and that's very few, unfortunately. But you wish I would argue, are they really Jews? You know? To begin with, true. Well, yeah. Well, what is a Jew? That that's What what is semitism? It's not a race. It's a language.
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And many of these people don't speak any Semitic languages. Well, it gets it gets They're already word playing you with saying you're anti Semitic when in when in reality, Semitic is in reference to speaking Arabic,
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Aramaic, or Hebrew. And if you can't speak them, then are you Semitic? Well, the the problem with Semitism is it it's the view that the Jews are the only Semitic people because it's their land. That's kind of the the it's what it's become and that's why even in the past when they had they even had a group in the eight I think it was eighteen seventies
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called the anti Semitic party. Want it be, bro, because they control the money Yeah. And so they can dictate the the rules to the game. That's all. That's You're right. Bullshit. You're right. It does it but those become less. Shit. They are the people of bullshit. There's it's all about deception, and that everything's an inversion. You know? Good is bad, bad is good. And if you really wanna apply that as a filter, it'll you can see it, you know, everywhere in the culture. Yeah. But, you know, we're we're
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go ahead. I'm sorry. Oh, no. I I just wanna say what what what do you think is, like, a positive thing we can do? And now knowing what we know, and and what can we do to change things for the better? And that's that's where I'm interested in these people that seem to want to to have a a better life and a better nation where you don't have this corrupting money influence over politicians, and you can make it work so that people are paid a just wage, can put, you know, bread on their table, water, shelter
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Yeah. The simple things in life. And not get caught up. That's not that's not the that's not the future that the oligarchs, AKA the elites are aiming for.
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You know, they're they're A lot of Jews running our country. You can just say it that way because it's the truth.
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I I think we need Running running the world.
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Well, the part of the problem is we used to have Christian, Christian order in the in the world. We it was known as Christendom. Now it's not so much Christendom. You wouldn't call our our US Congress Christendom at the at least especially the Senate. I think the Senate is the worst of the two bodies, but that's, you know, that's another talk for another time. I mean, if you if you know some some, you
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know, some data dots, like, the USS Liberty, the Lavonne affair, Jonathan Pollard, JFK's assassination, 09/11, and, you know, you came across enough empirical evidence that the Israeli Mossad and, Jews were behind these terrorist fence then, you know, yeah, they control America. They're they're a parasite, and America's the host. And, you know, who whoever controls whoever I mean, Netanyahu is is a puppet. He's a pawn. You know? But Donald Trump's, pushing his seat in for him. It's all theater. The guy's on NBC firing people.
He's on WWF. And then he's got Kid Rock in the Oval Office, wearing some stupid,
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get up outside. Detroit guy.
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Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And and it's just like, you know, this is Jewish Kabuki theater. It's the Twilight Zone. You know, I think it was brother Nathaniel that said this past week. I mean, everyone around the world is laughing. They see that and they're like, oh my gosh. You know? But, Yeah. What are we in for? I think everyone else around the world knows the Jews control The United States except everyone that lives in The United States who, is not that astute, doesn't really know. They think they know. They're all playing the game. They all wanna make money. They all are nihilistic.
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It's a very serious thing because of what they're doing over in Gaza and Ukraine. And and if they're willing to do it over there, they're willing to do it over here is the unfortunate thing.
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Well, you know, when it comes to technology like Musk and Neuralink and cell phones and data, capturing data and Internet of things and, endpoint technologies, you know, being disseminated over you know, the Gartner, technology consulting firm said there's been, like, over 4,000,000,000 endpoint devices have been, you know, put out into the environment.
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Yeah. It's it's overwhelming. Now now, Jack, we're gonna be wrapping up here pretty soon. I'm gonna have you on again because it's it's good to have you here, and and I'm glad you reached out to me and wanted to talk because I I appreciate that. I like I like talking, and it's it's I'll talk to anybody that's got a goodwill, and you seem to to, be interested in learning more, and and you're not just one to just, ignore what you see.
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Well, I think you said you know, real quick to to help you wrap it up is you you asked me the question of what can we do that's a good thing. I think, we as mammals have to communicate, and I think memes are a great medium. Obviously, talk radio because human beings have to go through a a process in order to cross that chasm and for them to make a decision and decide on something and perceive it differently than what perhaps they were they were prior. And so, unfortunately, we don't, run a multibillion dollar media machine, and and we it's pretty hard for us to to break people out of the matrix.
But, I think the key is to, on a day by day basis, try to find those that, are are going to, lend themselves to thinking differently, and that's pretty tough in itself. I think that most of us are are critical thinkers who have gotten this far. You like you said, you were you were raised by your family, you know, as I was. And, I think families teach critical thinking to their children. A lot of families, unfortunately, teach their kids to be slaves. You know, it's just be a consumer, watch sports, you know, go to work, pay your federal taxes, go get your vaccination, get your boosters.
Yep. All that fun stuff.
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Alright. Well, Jack, thank you very much for being on with us. Jack from California. It's been a pleasure and, I hope to talk again with you soon.
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Thank you, Patrick. Have a great evening, man. I enjoyed it. Look forward to the next time.
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Alright. Well, thank you and thank you everyone that's been listening and I hope to see you see you all another time here soon. Keep listening to radiowindmiller.com and, have a good night or a good day wherever you may be.
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Spend my days with a woman and kind, smoke my stuff and drink all through my life.
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Alright. We're here with, this is Patrick Chanel, and I'm here with, Jack from California. Today is 04/05/2025. So, Jack, welcome to the show. Well,
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welcome. Thank you, Patrick. Pleasure to, join you on this new venture of yours.
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Yeah. Thanks. It's quite fun. I I I'm doing this more as, you know, it's just my thing. It's it's something I like to listen to, and I've got a few other, you know, very loyal listeners. And it's it's been going good so far, and I'm I'm, quite pleased. I've had a lot of help from other people, especially like Paul English. He's shown me a lot about how to run a radio station, the different software that you need, and the scheduling, and the discipline of keeping a schedule, that kind of stuff. And, yeah, like how so, tell tell us a little bit about yourself. I I hear you, calling often to fetch over at Inside the iLive.
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Well, first, I'll say that, Paul English is a good chap, and, I used to listen to him a lot with, Andrew Carrington Hitchcock, on Andy's program, every morning for some time. But I got into radio, and I was influenced by radio by my dad. My dad listened to a lot of call in radio. And, my dad was in the car a lot. He was a Wayne County Sheriff Deputy, and he worked for the probate division. So he was always delivering subpoenas in Wayne County around Detroit. And he'd record live radio with tape player and, you you know, listen to the tapes. And that's what I recall in terms of, my relationship with live radio, Colin, aside from growing up in the Motor City, Rock City with, you know, WRIF and WLLZ and a lot of great talk radio in Detroit. I think it's probably the one of the biggest markets in the country.
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That yeah. It's the main street of America, if you could you could put it that way.
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Yeah. So he would take reel to reel, or was it cassette decks? How how would he do it? Oh, the old cassette decks. Yeah. And, you have that tape player that was above that about, you know, eight by five or so. Sort of like a three or four inches thick and have a bunch of Blake tapes, and he'd play the radio off his dash of his car and record whatever
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he wanted to, I guess. Yeah. What do you remember him listening to?
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I don't remember. You don't remember? I didn't listen to you know, I could probably dig those tapes up. But, no. I I never you know, it was probably things that kids' history and, language and whatever. You know, Detroit had has WDET, which broadcasts live from the campus of Wayne State University in Downtown Detroit, and they have great programming, great music, great, it's you know, NPR is tied to it, but they have a lot of great local radio programs. I used to listen to a lot of jazz. The Ed Love Jazz Show was my big show, and then, you know, I tuned into NPR.
You know, twenty five, thirty years ago, I wasn't really paying attention to the left leaning narrative of NPR, but, you know, I was supposedly getting the news.
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Yeah. Yeah. I was into NPR for a while because it's the it's like it's the only thing on FM that's talk radio. At least at the time, they you had some sports stuff, but not anything like it is now where you just turn on any FM station. There's two or three sports channels. In our little rural market here, We're in the Minneapolis Saint Paul market, so we get a lot of their the Twin Cities news and stations. Usually, it's WCCO, CBS, and then it was KSTP, which is, what are they? They're ABC, NBC, it's AB, no, what would KSTP be? They are ABC. The alphabet agencies. Yeah, well there are only three of them. There are only three of them. And, really, NPR is kind of its own thing. It's like the branch of the movie. Narrative.
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Right. You would think you you thought twenty five and thirty years ago that NPR was the alternative, you know, viewpoint. They were really well produced, you know, those editorial, you know, radio programs, exposes, what have you. But, you know, radio is a great medium. And despite technology evolving and changing, it really hasn't been replaced. And it its span, especially now with archives, is timeless. So, you know, I can listen to Paul English in The United Kingdom and Andy Carrington Hitchcock and Blackbird in North Carolina and the Fetch in Saudi Arabia and, Jim Fetzer in Wisconsin and and it goes on and on and on. Robert Rayvolts on Sunday nights on RVN.
There's, you know, and of Scorpio and, Giuseppe on freedom, truth, justice. You know? So there's a lot of great stuff going on, and it's really an amazing education. The great thing about radio is you can multitask. You could do things while you're listening, which is what I really like.
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Yeah. The chat, I that's kinda kinda how I got into it. I started listening listening I think how I got into this crowd, you could say this crowd being, like, the the people you just listed, listed off, they came to my attention. I think it was, I was introduced to Jeff Rentz through doctor Deagle, Bill Deagle, which was on Genesis, which is Alex Jones' big or used to be Alex Jones's big broadcaster that he went through. I think Ted was it Ted Anderson? He ran that out of somewhere in Bloomington or somewhere in Minnesota, you know, the Twin Cities.
And so Bill Deagle, and then he introduced me to Jeff Rentz, and I started listening to Rentz. And it just opened up a whole lot of things because he's got quite the prolific show. Regardless of what you think of what he produces, it's, you know, I I think he a lot of his stuff is, some of the people he has on there just are very questionable in my opinion. Some of the people not so much though, like David Duke. I remember listening to David Duke. And I think the first time I was exposed to him, it was David Duke interviewing Gilad Ostman, which was an eye opener.
After that, it just that that that was the one show I remember that just woke me up to the Jewish problem as a and being able to outwardly say it as a problem and not not, not be wrong
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and not Well, it's not my my first Jewish problem was in elementary school when the principal, who was a Jew, took the paddle to my ass. That was my first Jewish problem. Yeah. Yeah. Wilson Elementary School named after our famous president that, helps the Federal Reserve become institute in 1913.
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Oh, wait. Yeah. That's true. That's true. And then he also got us into World War one through blackmailing. That as a kid, you know, but I do remember in elementary class standing up and doing the Pledge of Allegiance every morning. I don't know if that's done anymore. Yeah. Well, you know what they used to do? And and I learned this from Andy Hitchcock that in England, up until it was, like, the late seventies, maybe early eighties, they used to start with the our father prayer in school, in public school over there. Interesting. Yeah. Which we didn't even have anything near that growing up. At least I didn't.
I I suppose if if you went to a Catholic school or some sort of Christian school, maybe you would get that, but not at a public school. So and our our public school is a very Masonic socialist institute where it's, you know, conglomeration of all the religions and the, you know, like, nobody speaks ill of the other, and they really ingrain that into you in in that, environment. And I think that I kind of avoided that up until the eighth grade. I think it was the eighth grade I stopped going to government school. And so so I didn't get as much of the indoctrination that that I probably would have if I had stayed going on that course, but, I ended up being schooled by my family. So I have a little bit more of an understanding and a willingness to look outside of the box and and and that sort of thing. I think because of that.
At least that helped.
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Same for me. Same for me.
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Yeah. And you grew up in Detroit.
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Right? Yeah. My my dad, and his, family grew up in the depression. My dad's parents were Armenian immigrants, And, he and his older brother, who's a World War two veteran, you know, grew up in 1930 to nineteen fifties, you know, classic Americana, Detroit. And, they both were in the military. My dad was first a tank mechanic at 17 in Frankfurt, Germany, and then he came back to Highland Park, Michigan, which is around six to seven mile in Woodward Avenue. It's a city within the city of Detroit. Is that near Ford? Ford? Yeah. And the Ford, Ford's, plant on Manchester Street
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So it's near Crossing Woodward Avenue. Is that near Then the Highland Park because it's interesting coincidence being that in Saint Paul, my grandfather was a security guard at the Ford factory in near Highland Park. Interesting. Yeah. They made Ford Ranger pickup. Park there in Minnesota. That's crazy. Yeah. They made tractors and then pickups. Ford Rangers until it moved to Mexico.
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Well, this was Ford's first fully automated plant where they made model t's and model a's. And, you know, my dad grew up in that town. He was born there. He was born in Highland Park Hospital. And, his brother and his father, spent their entire lifetimes working at the Ford Motor Company. And I've got three generations of family that have worked at Ford or the big three. So, there's a rich heritage and history in Detroit for a lot of people, but strong heritage for Americana. You know, we were talking about it previously, you know, between father Coughlin, Henry Ford, and Charles Lindbergh.
I would say those were the big three. You know? They were the titans of the day.
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America First. They were all associated with Detroit, Michigan, for that matter, because that that's where Charles Lindbergh's Charles Lindbergh Junior, his mother was from Michigan. When, Charles Lindbergh Senior, who later became the senator of Minnesota, he married a gal when he was going to the University of Michigan, law school, and it was one of the first law schools in the country, I believe. But, previous to that, he was married to a gal who was my great grandfather's aunt. I believe it was his aunt. And, or great aunt. I think it was his aunt, though.
And he ended up growing up with them in Little Falls, Minnesota, which is not, you know, not too far relatively from here. He went to he ended up, well, Charles senior ended up going to school in what would be the high school age at Collegeville, Minnesota, and he was educated by Benedictine monks. And there's a Benedictine monastery there that That's interesting. They it was it's at the time, I believe it was the largest Benedictine monastery in the world. And In Minnesota? In Minnesota in College Collegeville, I believe is the the town that they were based out of.
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Yeah. Are they making beer there?
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I don't know, but since then, it's become a real wreck. I in the fifties, after the war, just after the war, I don't know if you're familiar with the Bauhaus architecture of just, like, ugly apartment complex flats in Germany, the Weimar type architecture. Well, one of the architects, one of the youngest architects from the Bauhaus school, they they instead of hiring a Catholic architect to build and design their their new church, the new the new church in the 50s for the for the monastery, they hired a Jew from the Bauhaus School architect, and it's just a monstrosity looking building now that you you see there. It's just ugly.
You don't even know it's a church. You know, a lot of these churches, they look like spaceships. We call them I I you know, they they look like something that doesn't even belong, doesn't have a, you know, real purpose. Just ugly. And instead of the old architects, you know, like a tech you think of a cathedral, you think of Chartres or Notre Dame or Saint Peter's Basilica in Rome or these old churches in Germany. A frames. Yeah. Now now they're a frame yeah. Just simp simple geometric things, and it's just ugly.
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A lot of churches in Detroit and,
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Yeah. Father Conference Church you're you're talking about, his his little parish.
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Yeah. I grew up not too far from that church on 12 Mile Woodward Avenue in Royal Oak, Michigan. And, I never went during a service, but I I did go inside the cathedral and walked the grounds, on a nice summer day. It's a it's a pretty, church. It's not really huge, but it probably, you know, can hold a
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thousand or 2,000 people. Well, that's pretty big. Yeah. It's it's a decent size. I I wonder how he used to broadcast from there. Because didn't he broadcast from from where he lived in the rectory or somewhere near the church? Apparently, he lived in Bloomfield Hills, which is a couple of miles north in
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a more upper middle class neighborhood. That's where he died, but, I don't know where he broadcast the show from. I think it could be straight from the rectory at the church in the cathedral. I think it might be pictures of him. And now he's behind a speaker phone, and he was maybe recording those shows live while he had, you know, his pews and parishioners filled with them. But, to, you know, talk about classical architecture, I was fortunate to roam the grounds of the University of Michigan law quad and go to its main library. It's it's a very beautiful university in Ann Arbor, and one of the best schools in the nation, if not around the world, for a lot of their graduate programs.
But, oddly enough, one time, back in the eighties in Hart Plaza in Downtown Detroit, Absolut Vodka and the Ford Motor Corporation would sponsor the Montreux Detroit Jazz Festival. And it was a sister jazz festival taking place in Montreux, Switzerland. And for, like, five days from 10AM till ten at night, they had three stages going on, main stage and two stages with jazz, music of all genres. And I saw a lot of great jazz musicians at those three music shows.
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Yeah. And, Isn't Detroit known for its music? It's Motown. Right? Isn't that what they call it? Motortown, Motown?
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Lot of, man lot of manufacturing innovation in the music world as well as in the auto world, auto and aerospace. A lot of, I guess, you know, like Germany, a lot of creativity, a lot of IP and patents and so forth. I think maybe the cold weather has a little bit something to do with that when you're stuck in the house during a cold blizzard during the wintertime. But, yeah, a lot of a lot of first started in Detroit. I think the CB radio, the Coney Island hotdog, I think street lights were Chicago. You know? But,
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You know, I I was a little or reading earlier today about Gibson Musical Instruments, like Les Paulson. Yeah. They're there. Yeah. They're in Kalamazoo. They were they were based there for quite a while. Then they moved to Nashville, but, that was not but recently.
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Yeah. And Ted Nugent, you know, who plays a Gibson Birdland hollow body guitar and, a lot of great musicians. Don Henley, he went to Royal Oak High School. Oh, tons of music. Eagles. Yeah. A lot lot of just music innovation, and the radio world of as well. But, there's so much history there. And I I think Detroit was the most populated city in North America in the turn of the century in the 1900. Mhmm. But a lot of people just funneled through. They didn't stay. They probably pushed on to Chicago and Minnesota, you know, and all those towns in Wisconsin.
And then, you know, perhaps even went further towards the Dakotas. And for the real bowl, they went out to, you know, Montana and Idaho and Nevada and picked up land for next to nothing. You know?
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Yeah. Right. I know my my, grandpa, the one that was related to the Lindbergh family, his family ended up going out to Montana and being, kinda like, I I know we we had one relative that set up a butcher shop, and there was a competing butcher shop run by Hormel, And the Hormel people went to all the farmers and said, if you ever go to their their, butcher shop, we'll never do business with you. And then put in putting in my family's butcher shop out of business back in the day. So they, you know, it's and then I think, like, Grand Forks and all these places, they had a lot of airplane traffic going through there during World War two, going up from the factories in California and then up through the through Alaska into Russia for the, lend lease program that they had where they were supplying the the Soviets with armaments and air aircraft and all sorts of things like that.
So how did you end up moving out to California
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for Michigan? I just got I just, visited in '95, a friend that grew up in Detroit and, was going to school out here. And his grandparents had a second home in North Orange County, and they're an old Italian. The man was a Sicilian, a %, and, the woman, my my friend's grandmother was a % Armenian. And they, they're quite successful couple, and they have a very successful business in Downtown Detroit. They supplied the big three and called Continental Paper Supply, huge warehouse. And, I eventually came out and visited him and drove back to Detroit with his little brother who didn't like it out here, oddly enough. And wanted to return back to Detroit.
And, we did a drive back to the, you know, the Motor City from North Orange County. And when I visited four years later in '99, I was returning back to Detroit Metropolitan Airport, and I left the sun and was landing into Detroit Metropolitan Airport. And it was cloudy gray and, like, 55 on a, you know, midsummer day. And I was like, god. I gotta get out of this place. And, that's how I was motivated. I was interested in communications, and I was interested in pursuing the film industry as a actor and a writer and a cinematographer because I'm into photography.
But I was forewarned, at the age of 17, that I had to be Jewish or gay going to work in the film industry.
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Oh, yeah. Who told you that?
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It It was my dad's, cousin who has connections into the, film industry from a finance perspective. And, he's a retired navy captain down in San Diego. And the old school ring knocker from the Annapolis
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What's a what's a ring knocker?
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Someone that went to the one of the military academies, West Point or the Naval Academy, versus if you went to reserve officer training corps at a university, they distinguish the guys that go to the academies as ring knockers.
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I guess they just their their ring signifies that they went to one of the military academies. They went they went straight straight there rather than, sideways type of way through the through the university system then.
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Like, my dad, you know, was a tank mechanic, and then he finished, that his service in the army and returned back to Detroit and went to community college and took, you know, calculus and physics. And eventually, he got himself accepted to the Air Force Cadet Corps, which was a program in Waco, Texas, and it was OCS to become a pilot. And I presume that the Air Force Academy was a program that was already, active, but, this was, I would say, in the mid fifties that my dad got accepted to that program. And, you know, a lot of guys that flew, in World War two pretty much went to those jump schools in a matter of months and were turned into pilots, which is quite remarkable.
I don't think that's, as easy as can be done, you know, today as it was then. Of course, it was prop planes, and now it's jets. And my dad's dream was to fly the p 51 Mustang, but he never got to fly that plane. But he grew up as a kid building balsam wood planes, he and his brother, you know, and flying them and torching them, burning them, and so forth. You know, little kids playing war or what have you. And, my dad's eldest brother was a merchant marine in World War two, and he was a pretty stoic type of dude. And he worked, for thirty five years at the Ford River Rouge steel plant.
And, so I had a very interesting perspective from two, Depression era born kids, who had a a harder childhood than I certainly had or anyone in my generation. But all the same, they thought that life was great. My dad said the fifties was the best, you know, decade that he experienced. My dad was into building cars and into boats on the Great Lakes. And, essentially, you know, that was sort of what I was raised with. My dad and my uncle could pretty much fix anything and and do anything themselves. And, I I've been out here in California sort of, you know, surfing and, don't own a lot of tools because I don't never owned a house out here.
And, essentially, I I have the capability, but I just don't practice doing a lot of the stuff. But here, the weather is different. You know? I'm I'm an outdoorsman. I spend a lot of time, you know, going to places like the desert in the winter, the the mountains in the summer. Obviously, I have the ocean year round. The kind the climate's very temperate here, and then there's micros, you know, environments, microclimates throughout the state. And, I've been sort of just immersed into being an outdoorsman, whether it's, surfing with a long board or walking barefoot on the beach or swimming in the ocean or fishing with the freshwater and a and a saltwater lysis or, hiking in the deserts, going out in the desert, shooting shooting guns on Bureau Land Management property.
Of course, the the most interesting or the most, beloved place for me is The US 395 on the Eastern Sierras. What is that? It's just a magnificent sight to behold. The the the rock erupting from the ground, the the sight to behold of this large mountain chain that, you know, is to the, west of you as you're going north on The US 395, and on the other side to the right of you is the White Mountains. And it's just all of Nevada and Northern California is just mountain ranges layered upon layered. It's just, it's a very beautiful experience.
When you go up into the mountain, there's freshwater streams and freshwater lakes. And if you start hiking the back countries and going higher in elevation and along streams to to cascading lakes. You you eventually start hiking through snow. You know, if it's, late May, then it could be 80 degrees. And, it's just a very majestic experience to be far that far back out in the middle of of nature, which is really only two ways. Now you can get there around on foot, by horse and then a helicopter. That's the only three ways to get back into the the, backcountry of the Sierra Nevadas.
But it's quite impressive all the way from, say, Lone Pine, which is where, the Lower 48, the highest peak, which a lot of people hike up to. Which is that? What's the highest peak? Oh, jeez. You know? That's what I'm saying. Name of it too. Yeah. It's in it's in Lone Pine, California. Yeah. Yeah. I wanna say Mammoth, but Mammoth is the ski resort to the north about a hundred miles to a 50 miles north of there. Yeah, people do the site, and it just doesn't appeal to me because people from LA will go up there and they get their permit at the USFS. You know, it's climbing permit because they can only allow so many people to be on those trails.
So, I've never done it. I never cared to. Just, north of there is Big Pine, where Lon Chaney, the actor, has a cabin, you know, up, like, at 10,000 elevation. And, you gotta hike back to get to his house, but, you know, that's where there's some cool hikes and, mountain ranges and valleys and alpine lakes and streams and redwood trees, all types of species. But, of course, to the right of the Eastern Sierras on The US Three Ninety Five is Death Valley and the Petrified Wood Forest, which I've been up to up in the White Mountains and so much. You could spend three, four, five lifetimes exploring The US Three Ninety Five between Lone Pine and Lake Tahoe, that being Lake Tahoe and Carson City, Nevada.
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There's just so much going on. I've I've been there. I've never been to Southern California. I've I've only been to Northern California from Reno to San Francisco and then San Jose,
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Carson City, that kind of stuff. That's awesome. That's awesome. That's the beautiful I mean, Northern California is absolutely beautiful. It's got a very interesting, topography, a lot of, interesting microclimates and environments. You know, like you say, Santa Cruz, Los Gatos. You know, there's redwood trees all throughout there. You're on the 101 Freeway north of the Bay Bridge, San Francisco Bridge. The 101 straight up to Oregon border, it's just jaw dropping beautiful. Especially, when you get close to Oregon border, there's that UNESCO designated site where it's the redwood trees, up three not on the 101. The 101 is just so cool once you get past this. You know, it's pretty cool, say, in Santa Barbara, and you get up towards the, you know, South Bay, then you gotta cross the bridge, you go through the city to cross the bridge, that sort of kills time. But once you get north of the bridge into Marin County, the 10 One's just amazing.
And you go through Humboldt County, and California is beautiful. I mean, it is the Golden State. I grew up in Michigan, the Great Lakes State. Michigan's got a lot of beautiful landscapes and sights to behold. If you're at any one of the Great Lakes, it you think you're at the ocean. And the the the, energy that's coming out of the waves could be just as brutal as the ocean depending on the wind. But, California is a very, very special place. It's it's it'd be very tough to go back to Detroit and deal with the winter knowing what's out here.
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Yeah. Yeah. Even though it's a bit, dense densely populated, besides that, you know, there's more there's more property out here to be had, but at a cheaper cheaper price, obviously, than California. Though, it sounds like you you got out there at a time when it was affordable, and it's still affordable, I'm sure. But like you said, you you you don't have as much, I don't know. I don't know what Palm Springs is affordable.
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Palm Springs is affordable. Palm Springs. And a lot of senior citizens, you know, or that demographic eventually, if they're in, you know, the the coastal of LA, San Diego, Orange County, or within 50 miles off the coast, a lot of people retire to Palm Springs because it's cheaper. And, land is more affordable, obviously, the further east you go, provided there's water. But, real estate's really jumped in the last twenty and thirty years in Inland Empire and Riverside Counties. There are some people that'll literally make the commute for, you know, an hour and a half, two hours to drive 60 or 70 miles from one of those counties that adjoins Orange or LA Counties, and they come to work towards the coast, you know, whether it be in Orange County or LA County. And then they make that drive east for, you know, a hundred miles Wow. Yeah. Every day. That's ridiculous. Yeah. That's homeownership.
So, like, you know, for me, it, I would buy land and build a a house, and I would do it in a place where I could find affordable land. And it's it's to be had in California, but, you know, most people wanna be by major business centers and have conveniences. And, yeah, I've there's I've only explored I've explored a lot in California, but, you know, I still have not yet been to, say, North Of Lake Tahoe is, a gea what is it? There's a volcano, vol Lassen Volcanic National Park. I haven't been there. I need I wanna get there. I've been to Shasta. You know, the Sierra Mountain Range is pretty much made up of all the same species, so of trees and foliage. And so it's not like I'm gonna drive all the way towards Redding to go hang camp in the Sierras.
I'll typically go to Bishop via, you know, the 15, you know, near Big Bear in Redding and and, San Bernardino and get on the 395 and just cook up. And within 300 miles from South Orange County, I could be, in Bishop in, like, six hours, you know, at nine five looking at, you know, mountain mountain peaks and freshwater streams and cooler temps and just it's a it's amazing place. It really is.
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Yeah. A lot of our produce is made there, so I I assume farming is a big deal in California.
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Yes. On the, West Side of the range, you know, is Fresno. There's a huge valley there that gets a lot of heat. And, obviously, there's entrance ways to the Sierras from the west. There's, like, six passages that go over the Sierras. And I've never completely traversed from one side to the other in one drive, but I have entered from Merced into Yosemite National Park and, one other entry point. But the most interesting and beautiful mountain pass that I've done is, South Of Lake Tahoe, and I can't think of it right this moment. But I probably shouldn't say it because then, you know, probably everything will change. Yeah. Of course, this is just Windmiller radio. It's not ABC or NBC or Instagram. Probably, Instagram's already changed a lot for it. But, yeah, there's it's just, you know I would say The US 395 is classical Americana, classic, history of cowboys, Indians, and miners.
And, that trickles a little bit on the West Side Of The Sierras, in places like Auburn, California. But, between Carson City, Virginia City, there's a lot and Lake Tahoe, there's a tremendous amount of history, that takes place there. For instance, in Virginia City, it was only two silver mines that produced all the wealth that created San Francisco. So when you go to Virginia City, it's this po dunk little mountain town, and it's like, wow. This place created San Francisco. And I would say if you ever go, you'd wanna go to the cemetery, in Virginia City.
And that's where you'll really and then there's a saloon in the main street that's like a museum. I can't remember the name of it, but it's very impressive. It's got a lot of historic data and pictures of the era when it was the land of cowboys, Indians, and gold miners, silver miners, and, outposts, and gunfights,
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and Mhmm. Sheriffs and deputies. When I when I was out there oh, go go ahead. No. You go ahead. Oh, I was gonna say I took a train out there. We went from Saint Paul all all the way out to, I think, Reno and then got off and drove from Reno to San Francisco. But it was it was beautiful. You start getting getting out past North Dakota, which is just boring flatlands. And you and you start getting into Montana and and the mountain ranges, and it's just gorgeous from there on. But,
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Yeah. You know, so Detroit's a great place to be from. You know, I think the weather is what kills it, and there's not a lot of great stuff. Appreciate it more then.
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Having grown up, you see you see what it was like in one place, and then you move to the other where you you really wanna be. And you get an appreciation that people that are from there don't necessarily have because they don't they don't get the cold. Like, here where I'm at in the in February, it it gets down to negative 30, sometimes forty, fifty. Yeah. So it's it's it's cold. And then the summertime, though, is worth it because it just everything gets green and beautiful.
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And Provided you have sun.
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Well, we have we usually get sun. Yeah. It's use it's it's usually it feels like it's, like, six months of summer, six months of winter, and you feel it. Like, the winters seem long. Summers, you know, obviously, don't they don't last long enough because you want the nice weather, but we really do get some nice weather for six months out of the year, every year. But the the six months I can't
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I can't share the same sentiment in terms of my remembering what it was like before I left. I I it seemed to me that the summers became less, consistent and were more inconsistent, and there were more gray days than there were sunny days. And you would wait you'd go through these dark cold winters. You'd wake up and it's dark. You'd get out of school or work and it's dark. And it was like that for, like, three months. You know? The light deprivation. You put on 15 pounds because all you do is sit in front of the television for five hours a night Yeah. Getting programmed with all that great Jewish media. And, and then, you know, you you'd have to burn off that big fat layer, you know, like a brown bear. But, anyhow, yeah, the weather seemed to seemed to me to not be as great as it was when I was a child. I remember the summers to be consistent. Of course, I remember moving out here and walking on the beach in South Orange County in 02/2002, '2 thousand '3 and watching them blow chemtrails and go, is anyone else seeing this? What the what the heck is this?
You know? But, it's even gotten worse. It's just like you'll wake up at 6AM and you look over the ocean horizon and it's blue water and a blue sky, and these planes start coming out and laying these lines. And by twelve noon, the sky's just, like, all milky and white. They just ruined a perfectly clear sunny day into this dystopic, like, geoengineering bullshit. And it's like, you know, that's why I came out to California. I mean, it's like Michigan's following me. But,
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Yeah. I I have a little I have a little bit different view than you about the the chemtrails thing. But
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Do you? Yeah. I I I really
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don't think it's, like, what what it doesn't seem like they would do that on purpose. I mean, why why would they do that to themselves? That's the that's the real thing that gets me. I I'm I'm really
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skeptical of Why are they effing up my weather, dude? I mean, California's expensive. It's a premium to live here. Yeah.
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Well, it it changes with the condition. So you could say that it's the planes that do it, but maybe it's just the cold front moving in.
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I know. I'm not Well, there's a, you know, my dad was a pilot and, What did what did he say? Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Well, he never saw that stuff. He died before they started laying those things out. Okay. So when when was when was that? When when did your father pass away? If you don't mind me asking. Oh, he's been gone for almost twenty five years, I believe. Okay.
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So that that's about the time when people really started, noticing and saying chem chemtrails. Because I've done some research into this because it really it kind of what got me going was listening to William Cooper talk about it because he said he he was just upset that Art Bell. Remember Art Bell?
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He I've I've heard the name, but I don't remember, like, the guy speaking. Anyways,
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so, it was him and Patricia Doyle who was a regular on with Jeff Rentz. And and she was saying that they were purposely, you know, I I forget what it was, doing something with Plum Island out near New York, and and they were creating bioweapons that were gonna be spread through the the airplanes air and that sort of Who's they? Well, then who who's they? Good question. Now you tell me. Who's they? Who's they? Yeah. Well, that's that's just it. Who who is they? This is what she was
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saying. Is this the, is this the the Rand Corporation in Santa Monica? Is this the Esalen Institute up, near Big Sur? Is Is this Stanford University? What NGO is is they saying? Yeah. Well Metallica
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Institute. That's just it. Who who do you think would would do this?
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Because I if Well, you know, it's true. Guys whatever the outcome anticipated or desired is, the bottom line is I could differentiate between a contrail and a chemtrail. And a contrail dissipates quite quickly after the precipitation leaves the turbine engine. But a chemtrail literally puts a line in the sky, and it slowly dissipates and gets wider. And then when you see them laying crossing geometric lines and doing axes and then going from the bottom of the ocean going straight up and then going from straight up straight down to the ocean, like, where is this flight path? Where are they going? What what's the where's the fuel economy in this green world?
Here we are. We're killing the Earth, and these guys are just, like, flying aimlessly everywhere all over the sky. Okay. You know?
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So who do you think is doing it? That's what I wanna get to the bottom of. Like, who who who would do who would do such a dastardly thing to everyone? And you including themselves, potentially.
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What everyone else knows, which is online or through Dane Covington on RENT and the GeoWatch or whatever his website is. And, you know, those two documentaries that came out, and I never watched them in their entirety. But, you know, technology's technology. And, we know they were seeding the clouds over a hundred years ago. We've seen we've seen documentaries of them seeding clouds and and, With balloons? Whatever. They're going up in Woah. With planes, with balloons, there's several different ways to seed clouds and create rain. But, there's a lot of documentaries out there that show you this, but whatever the case, I know we get stuck on chemtrails.
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I mean
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It's alright. You know?
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No. No. I just it's it's just intriguing to me. It's it's it's intriguing to me. You gotta admit that if as a conspiracy that that it would happen is is, quite something. They have to have a lot of power for one because airplanes, jet airplanes that are that size aren't cheap.
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Well, I would say that you tried you know, the only conspiracies you should, be introducing to the newbie is ones that you can prove. Right? The Federal Reserve, nineteen thirteen, Woodrow Wilson, Jekyll Island. You know, just stick with the stick with the pragmatic stuff, and, the esoteric stuff is, for their own discovery. But, you know, in terms of our us graduating to the level of now exploring more esoteric things, I mean, transhumanism, Elon Musk, you know, cryptocurrency
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Yeah. That's all an x mRNA. That's all a whole thing. Excuse excuse me, Jack. It's it that that goes back a long ways. Like, in the twenties and thirties, there was a group called Technocracy Inc. I believe his grandfather, what you're talking about, Musk, was part of the Technocracy Inc group which was I think Shell one of those big oil companies. I think it was Shell. One of the scientists from there was the one that he was the one who coined the term fossil fuel. Like it comes from dinosaurs and that sort of thing rather than something that's generated in the earth and replenishes itself.
It's it's a limited type of thing so only only elite the the scientists should be the ones the technocrats should be the ones in charge of government and not any sort of democratically elected type people so the elitist view like it's kind of like an aristocracy of sorts which in a way you could say an aristocracy might be good because it's the most qualified people doing the leading But at the same time, it ends up becoming who who who gets the most money and then that becomes plutocracy. And then it's plutocrats, which is like kind of what we have now. I mean, we've got a president who's a casino operator and all this kind of stuff, and it's all related to money and real estate deals.
And
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Yeah. Well, that's what Michael e Jones, discussed in his interview with you. Yeah. He's just,
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right. Yeah. What did you what did you think of that? What what did you think of that interview?
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That was good. I liked it. You know, I'm always interested in Michael, mister Jones' perspective. He seems to be, you know, sort of more diplomatic in in terms of extending the olive branch out to the Jews. You know, we're gonna we're gonna convert them. But,
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yeah. The ones that want to convert, and that's very few, unfortunately. But you wish I would argue, are they really Jews? You know? To begin with, true. Well, yeah. Well, what is a Jew? That that's What what is semitism? It's not a race. It's a language.
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And many of these people don't speak any Semitic languages. Well, it gets it gets They're already word playing you with saying you're anti Semitic when in when in reality, Semitic is in reference to speaking Arabic,
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Aramaic, or Hebrew. And if you can't speak them, then are you Semitic? Well, the the problem with Semitism is it it's the view that the Jews are the only Semitic people because it's their land. That's kind of the the it's what it's become and that's why even in the past when they had they even had a group in the eight I think it was eighteen seventies
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called the anti Semitic party. Want it be, bro, because they control the money Yeah. And so they can dictate the the rules to the game. That's all. That's You're right. Bullshit. You're right. It does it but those become less. Shit. They are the people of bullshit. There's it's all about deception, and that everything's an inversion. You know? Good is bad, bad is good. And if you really wanna apply that as a filter, it'll you can see it, you know, everywhere in the culture. Yeah. But, you know, we're we're
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go ahead. I'm sorry. Oh, no. I I just wanna say what what what do you think is, like, a positive thing we can do? And now knowing what we know, and and what can we do to change things for the better? And that's that's where I'm interested in these people that seem to want to to have a a better life and a better nation where you don't have this corrupting money influence over politicians, and you can make it work so that people are paid a just wage, can put, you know, bread on their table, water, shelter
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Yeah. The simple things in life. And not get caught up. That's not that's not the that's not the future that the oligarchs, AKA the elites are aiming for.
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You know, they're they're A lot of Jews running our country. You can just say it that way because it's the truth.
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I I think we need Running running the world.
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Well, the part of the problem is we used to have Christian, Christian order in the in the world. We it was known as Christendom. Now it's not so much Christendom. You wouldn't call our our US Congress Christendom at the at least especially the Senate. I think the Senate is the worst of the two bodies, but that's, you know, that's another talk for another time. I mean, if you if you know some some, you
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know, some data dots, like, the USS Liberty, the Lavonne affair, Jonathan Pollard, JFK's assassination, 09/11, and, you know, you came across enough empirical evidence that the Israeli Mossad and, Jews were behind these terrorist fence then, you know, yeah, they control America. They're they're a parasite, and America's the host. And, you know, who whoever controls whoever I mean, Netanyahu is is a puppet. He's a pawn. You know? But Donald Trump's, pushing his seat in for him. It's all theater. The guy's on NBC firing people.
He's on WWF. And then he's got Kid Rock in the Oval Office, wearing some stupid,
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get up outside. Detroit guy.
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Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And and it's just like, you know, this is Jewish Kabuki theater. It's the Twilight Zone. You know, I think it was brother Nathaniel that said this past week. I mean, everyone around the world is laughing. They see that and they're like, oh my gosh. You know? But, Yeah. What are we in for? I think everyone else around the world knows the Jews control The United States except everyone that lives in The United States who, is not that astute, doesn't really know. They think they know. They're all playing the game. They all wanna make money. They all are nihilistic.
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It's a very serious thing because of what they're doing over in Gaza and Ukraine. And and if they're willing to do it over there, they're willing to do it over here is the unfortunate thing.
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Well, you know, when it comes to technology like Musk and Neuralink and cell phones and data, capturing data and Internet of things and, endpoint technologies, you know, being disseminated over you know, the Gartner, technology consulting firm said there's been, like, over 4,000,000,000 endpoint devices have been, you know, put out into the environment.
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Yeah. It's it's overwhelming. Now now, Jack, we're gonna be wrapping up here pretty soon. I'm gonna have you on again because it's it's good to have you here, and and I'm glad you reached out to me and wanted to talk because I I appreciate that. I like I like talking, and it's it's I'll talk to anybody that's got a goodwill, and you seem to to, be interested in learning more, and and you're not just one to just, ignore what you see.
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Well, I think you said you know, real quick to to help you wrap it up is you you asked me the question of what can we do that's a good thing. I think, we as mammals have to communicate, and I think memes are a great medium. Obviously, talk radio because human beings have to go through a a process in order to cross that chasm and for them to make a decision and decide on something and perceive it differently than what perhaps they were they were prior. And so, unfortunately, we don't, run a multibillion dollar media machine, and and we it's pretty hard for us to to break people out of the matrix.
But, I think the key is to, on a day by day basis, try to find those that, are are going to, lend themselves to thinking differently, and that's pretty tough in itself. I think that most of us are are critical thinkers who have gotten this far. You like you said, you were you were raised by your family, you know, as I was. And, I think families teach critical thinking to their children. A lot of families, unfortunately, teach their kids to be slaves. You know, it's just be a consumer, watch sports, you know, go to work, pay your federal taxes, go get your vaccination, get your boosters.
Yep. All that fun stuff.
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Alright. Well, Jack, thank you very much for being on with us. Jack from California. It's been a pleasure and, I hope to talk again with you soon.
[00:56:53] Unknown:
Thank you, Patrick. Have a great evening, man. I enjoyed it. Look forward to the next time.
[00:56:58] Unknown:
Alright. Well, thank you and thank you everyone that's been listening and I hope to see you see you all another time here soon. Keep listening to radiowindmiller.com and, have a good night or a good day wherever you may be.
[00:57:52] Unknown:
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Introduction and Guest Welcome
The Influence of Radio and Family
The Evolution of Radio and Media
Growing Up in Detroit
Moving to California and Career Aspirations
Exploring California's Natural Beauty
Historical Insights and Americana
Weather, Chemtrails, and Conspiracy Theories
Technocracy and Modern Challenges
Closing Thoughts and Future Conversations
