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due.

Yes. We made it. We made it.

We've got,

Espialger here joining us. Hi, everybody.

How's it going? It appears Alan Marcus is also with us.

This is my very much furrier friend, Jim. What's up, furry Jim?

How's it going? It's nice to be here. Black mama laid.

I'm at a candy store literally, guys.

Ricola.

That's not the only reason. I'm really kinda giddy right now. I'm kinda happy.

I I just had, like, a vision of them actually finding out you did that and cutting you a small check. Like, wouldn't that be the coolest thing ever?

Even if it was only 13¢, like, from Ricola, wait, for the beginning of the stream? Because I can hold those things up a lot more times. I like Carmex and,

Burt's Bees

and Ricola.

And I got these new Fisherman's

Friend, extra

Strong original.

Wow.

Yeah. You're just

you're just using them because you enjoy them, or do you have a sore throat?

You missed the last episode, I think. Yeah. I think I did. You must not have watched the last episode.

I think some people are still catching up on past episodes of weeding we weaving spiders welcome.

You guys might have noticed that I have at least been able to show up in the chat sometimes. And every single time like clockwork, I get immediately interrupted

by something that can't be ignored.

Like, I'm like, cool. Hey. I'm hanging out. Or, like, last time I was watching the show, but I paused then I had to come back. And when I tried to push the live button to catch up to the current time,

it didn't work, and I thought I was. So I was Chatting about something that probably happened an hour and a half into the show, and you guys were actually finishing. And I figured it out from the chat, like, oh, wait. And then it then it was over. You know, I started the chat up to date, and it's like, oh, it's over. Okay. I missed it. This is this is legendary.

This is

The active live streaming even as an audience member.

For sure. We we are just so

At a loss for words

that

This legendary

meeting of 3 great minds would would happen

without

Too much of a struggle.

Yeah. And I knew that there would be some weirdness.

Yeah. Yeah. So we we have chat.

If we can say hi to John Galt, Stella Moon, Oswald Spengler,

Krista,

Ortab Keo,

Alan Marcus, that's me,

James Maiden

and everybody. Ho.

Hi, everybody.

Yeah. We're just kinda

catching our breath. What

What a great

great thing.

Too bad Barsky's missing it. He's

He's

active with the sports sports watching tonight? Mhmm. His Bucks are, Oh, yeah. I was gonna drop it on Facebook too. Pardon me, gentlemen.

Just wanna make sure people that might wanna see this can log in, do a little promoting like the good old days. Yeah. I really wish Barsky was here.

It'd be nice. I mean, I was anticipating him He may absolutely join us. Yeah. I'm sure he will.

Could always twist his little Barsky arm a little bit.

So let's, let's go back to Wednesday night after Wednesday night's show.

Lab Barsky joins us

in the Zoom room

after the YouTube show ended.

And he was so excited.

I assume he's just stoked if his team's winning. It's a Championship, isn't it? Or it's gotta be like the it's a championship. Yeah. So

Yes.

Yeah. That's pretty cool.

I used to live in a town with sports back when I lived in Portland, and it was a pretty big deal when, those trailblazers got

Made it towards the,

championships.

Oh, the whole town was, yelling rip city.

I can only imagine because, I mean, it used to get pretty crazy just when you were in Walla Walla, like, if the If the Seattle or Portland teams

started to make progress, like, people would start to get hyphy and get amped up. So And especially, it's been a long time ago now. So Portland most people don't know Portland,

used to be a very different caricature of a city than it is now. Was always a caricature of a city, but it was a different caricature of a city back then.

It was a more authentic, a proto weirdness, Not maybe such a canned manufactured weirdness.

And, so, yeah, I'm sure it was weird

if they were blowing up.

I've been to Portland one time,

and there was a mall in Portland.

And there was, like, a Lloyd Center?

Say the name again? The Lloyd Center, l

l o y d.

It was a liquor indoor mall with Clackamas. Spencer's gift store and, like, you

know, mall.

And I was on a choir trip in high school.

Our choir director decided we were going to do an impromptu

choir concert in the middle of the mall where the hallways met, Yeah. And we're gonna, like, face outwards and start singing.

We started singing in about 30 seconds into the song. Security was,

Hey, guys.

Could you please keep it down?

We're trying to run a mall here.

That's a great story, man. So the the teacher was a bit of a renegade, I'm taking it?

He was he's a bit of a diva. Absolutely. And he thought that the acoustics would be Perfect in this mall. So if we just started

singing

as a choir

together,

facing outwards,

Filled this space with sound that it would be appreciated by everyone.

That sucks.

No. It was fine because that meant we were done singing, and we had to go to the mall

And relax.

Yeah. Yeah. That's not bad. Now is it now I'm I'm gonna here, I've for some reason,

Alan, I've got My head is full of presumptions about you, and so I'm gonna keep using this as,

you know, as a way to continue the dialogue here. Absolutely.

And, this one might be based on something more realistic than me imagining you were already friends with Barsky, you know, which I don't even know where that came from. But,

It sounds like this, was a was a Christian school trip and not a a secular school trip. Is that right? No. This was a public

Public school. Public school trip. Yep. I was in 11th grade,

And we

took a bus.

No. We had 2 or 3 buses,

and we drove straight from, Shall we say

Minneapolis, Saint Paul area

all the way to Seattle.

We stopped a few times at a few different places,

And then our whole goal was to get to Seattle

and

perform concerts

at churches and things along the way. Again,

churches because they open the door. Our choir director

had gone to a Lutheran college

And had a lot of Lutheran

connections. So there was a lot of Lutheran churches that opened their doors for us as a Yeah. Public school to sing.

Yeah. That's I'd say even that falls into a different world than the one we're living in now where The relationship between the churches and the public schools would be

so unimpinged.

Yes. What a strange time we find ourselves in.

Yes. The world's changed so fast.

It's,

I find it entertaining and, like, I've got a bit of a gotcha. You know, I'm sure we all do because, you know, if you were actually seeing what was coming at all,

And it's pretty easy to be like,

guess what? We told you. We might have told you for 20 years,

and now it's all happening at once.

And I have gotten quite have you guys been getting messages from people with a lot more, what do you think about this is, and what do you think about that that you used to get? Because they used to always get some, you know, Like, some I'd give somebody a 911 DVD, and 5 years later, they'd be like, I was thinking about that movie. I finally watched it, and I wanted to know what you think about this. You know, like, 5 years later, you're like, oh, well, good. I'm glad that you're finally

somehow

going to engage in this dialogue.

Here's what I think of that.

I don't know.

This is the first I've heard of this. Could you tell me more about it? Do you have some links for me so I can do my homework?

What about you? Are you getting more, more messages to Jim? Are people

Jim's not really on social media except for Twitter and even that. Not that I see anyway.

Yeah. I've been, playing

hanging I've been

Been low. Been hanging low lately. I haven't really been on Twitter for the last couple of weeks, but,

yeah, it seems like

Everything's ramped up pretty seriously

in the, the whole

awakeness

Situation.

Woke movement.

The woke movement.

The woke movement? Well, there's a ton of, blue pill woke is what I like to call them.

I I like that term woke movement because

If you really if you have a firm grasp of language like all 3 of us do, at least the English language,

it implies that it's woke shit,

A movement.

Yeah. Yeah.

A woke movement.

It's a bowel movement. There there was a time when I would wake up hungover, and I would have to get And smoke and drink coffee, and then I would have what I would call a woke movement.

It's like cement sometimes.

Yeah.

It's the w, ma'am. Are you guys eating enough prunes?

Oh, I'm I, like, eat almost exclusively fruit. So, yeah, I'm rocking it on the

the fibrous,

I got it.

Food dehydrator recently. So I've been Dehydrating

everything.

I tried bacon first, but that didn't turn out as well as I'd hoped.

Yeah. Most ovens won't dehydrate very good. They really won't. The fruit fruit's great. I mean,

dehydrated

Apples and,

pineapple is fantastic.

It's so much better than any store bought dehydrated food I've ever I've ever had. Yeah. For real. Yeah.

You know, it's gone. I like to I peruse the grocery store for when the fruit's on sale, and then I just gobble it up, Bring it home and,

you know, the hardest thing is the

16 to 18 hours I have to wait, you know, while the

Well, the oven's dehydrated. Well, it chooches overnight. You know?

Yeah. Do you guys remember the, dark winter that we just had?

The dark winter?

Legally, yeah.

I met a guy who was

A survivor

of

the Texas freeze over that happened Okay.

Yeah. Yeah. And he was, my pontoon driver.

Interesting.

Like a pontoon boat?

Yes. So he's a he's a retired guy,

and he

returns to Minnesota during

The summers because it gets real warm in Texas.

And then when it gets cold in Minnesota,

He goes to Texas,

except that this year, Texas

had freezing temperatures,

And all their water lines froze,

and they were not prepared

for that dark winter.

I I made a piece of art from some of the photography posted on on the Internet. Yeah.

I took a a ambulance, I think it was, and, the frozen ceiling fan and combine them together and ran them through my overly intensified post processing madness. I was very happy with it.

I bring this up because you're talking about dehydrated food. I was buying a lot of dehydrated fruit so I could survive the dark winter.

Yeah?

Did were you out of power and stuff?

No. I'm in Minnesota.

Yeah. Because you guys are fully prepared for, Yeah. For cold at all times.

Mhmm.

It's just another winter for me, but I guess if you're in Texas And you're frozen over. Well Yeah. Your water remains breaking, and they all freeze solid. I think convenient.

It was literal Hell for them when hell froze over. Hell, Texas.

I think the, the ex expectation now is unexpected

Climate situation

and,

you know, like

like, my Internet goes out

at random times, And I feel like it's just to get us all ready for it. Sure. And it's it's yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, they're talking about the the next thing, whatever it's called, polygon or whatever.

Mhmm. You know, like, I don't it you know, and they have they have their weird Saturnalian,

new newer a newer boogeyman.

I can't even think of his name right now, but I know you guys know who he is. You know, he's the he's the one that's perpetrating the plan,

Or at least he he published part of it or whatever. He's wearing his weird black vest. I just can't think of the guy's name.

Is it like an a an an an sort of character? No. He's a bit like, a big name in the world on the world stage. I just can't think of his name. Klaus.

Claus. Yeah. Claus. Is it Hans?

Claus.

Hans Claus. Right?

Schwab.

Oh, Schwab. There we go. Schwab. Schwab.

Schwab. Did you ever bank with Charles

Schwab?

I don't think I

did. No. I wonder if he's related to Klaus.

Klaus?

Oh. His name's Klaus like Santa Claus.

Klaus Schwabe. Klaus

Schwabe. Klaus Schwabe. Was that okay? To get the robot to, understand the stream better. Klaus Schwabe. Schwabe, Klaus. Yes. We had we had a we had a brilliant man who was a lot like a Bloomberg. You know, Bloomberg terminals?

Well, we have the connection between Bloomberg terminals and Klaus. No.

Charles

Charles Schwab.

Charles Schwab created some banking technologies

and started a

bank.

Yeah.

And Bloomberg,

who's what's his first name?

Michael.

Yes.

Michael

created the Bloomberg

terminals Uh-huh. Or trading stocks.

Yeah. Oh, it's interesting. These guys made

financial

Computer systems

and,

how the finance is computers.

Like,

you can't even buy a

Xbox and, PlayStation

lately because people are buying them up because they can use those processors to mine bit,

Apparently.

So people are buying up game systems like crazy.

It's a strange world, man.

Yeah. It's insane.

Everything's tied to blocks with chains on them. You know, it's it's an emergent quality of the world that there's blocks And there's all these different kinds of chains attached to them. And then they're, like, if you're on Twitter, they're, like, pumping up and being excited about one chain or another. They're like, you should buy some pieces of this chain or this chain sucks now because they lied.

And it's you know? It it it's a trip. Let me describe an image. There's a there's a book that I read one time, and there's an image

of this person who's kind of standing with chains.

Yeah. And there's, like like, the arms are outstretched holding chains, and the chains are to a block. And she's

This this figure, human like, is holding

chains

on, like, a block. And

What

did you say to? What was that image?

I read it in a book. Yeah. Here it is. Maybe I can help. Man,

Has anyone in chat,

seen that image of Is that the one? Someone that Oh, that one. Yeah. Look anything like that?

Chains.

Yes.

It it That's the one. Yes.

Yeah. Like that. Mhmm.

Yeah.

Yeah. This lady is named after a steak. They call her meat.

When I was at bible camp and I heard the preacher talking about,

altars and sacrifices

and the god kings,

And he said something like,

priest or mediator, and I heard him say, the priests and the meat eaters. And I was like, did you say meat eater or me de eater?

And for a moment, I was

really wondering

if

I had heard the truth from the pulpit

about the priest

kings

who were mediators

between God and man.

Meat eaters.

Meat eaters

between god

and

man.

Yeah.

And I just thought, you know what?

That seems really accurate. These Old Testament

restaurant

mavens, these

Restaurant mafias

and their laws against who

can sell

meat, and who can Cook it, and who can eat it, and who can buy it, and who's allowed

to have it?

It's pesky like those Pescadarians

in their fish hats.

The pescadarians

are weird, man. Pescadarians. Like, no. We only eat fish. We don't we don't need anything with a face that's all on one side.

It has to be split right down the middle.

Right. Right.

Oh, that you know, your your digression into it was a wonderful digression into,

mediator meat eater.

It reminded me of Jim's most wonderful childhood experience of,

his perception of the activity in the stock Market. You wanna tell them, Jim?

Oh, yeah. I used to think that, Dow Jones was selling,

well, my my dad used to watch the news all the time and Financial news is on, and I would be playing and hearing it in the background. And I hear about Dow Jones

and chairs are up. Chairs are down.

So I thought that Dow Jones made and sold chairs.

Yeah. And then it was, like, Important enough that it was being regularly updated in, like alright. Well, chairs are way up today. Everybody's very happy. You know? I I

I love you know, this is, like, this this story occupies a special place inside of my heart, and I reference it way more than I tell anyone because I would probably be embarrassed If I actually told people like, if I made someone aware how often I have a little personal internal laugh and a joke

because I hear something about either a chair or the Stock market. And my brain is imagining stacks of chairs and broken chairs that are gonna be mended so that chairs will be up tomorrow, but today they're down because, you know, maybe a leg is off Are they folding chairs? Yeah. Who knows? Right? All I imagine all manner of chairs. Like, even some that you wouldn't even identify as chairs until someone showed you how they worked. Yeah.

Yeah.

Chairs are up. It always makes me imagine a huge precariously balanced pile of chairs too. Like, they're really up. Like, they got 35

without any widening of the base. They're just free form standing.

Got a little bit of kink in there, like, when you're trying Stack up, some dominoes.

So there are a lot of people in chat right now, and they're maybe not understanding

these memes that we are just Kind of, Yeah. We're not we're not really pleasing the audience with it. Pulling out of the ether here, maybe, pulling them off of the blockchain

Or somewhere, I don't know where these memes are coming from.

And we can explain

something called what was that prescription only

And all of the

memes that were created

live

and shared

on prescription

only picture show. It would probably have been easier for everybody if I had said that more often back during the show because I got a lot of me, Jim, and I together got a lot of

Rx only show, Rx picture show.

You know, like, there's you know, it was really hard and I didn't you know, To me okay. So we'll go well, we have to go before

Jim and I started

planning

the prescription only picture show. So So for those in chat who are completely confused,

can you please tell us who are the hosts

or were the hosts

of the prescription only picture show.

Definitely. I can answer that.

So It was myself as the the main host and Jim Maiden as the main cohost.

And

And, you know, the other main you know, so what we did is we started a show where we were, like,

juggling and playing with a yo yo and singing and playing guitar and talking about strange advertisements or other information that we would find on the Internet.

And, we were able to unwittingly court a very well known and wonderful

cult and esoteric author named Tracy r Twyman.

And so she also became a, like, a staple of the show. She she liked And she credited the memes in the introduction as part of it.

Like, me and Jim made this weird show called,

What was it? Maintenance? We called it something about maintenance, and we did a show that was just about talking about how we could do a better job of making sure that picture show was good. Right. Like, in so we were talking about how to make sure we were tracking information correctly and keeping in touch with people, and we were just talking about what it takes

because, you know, that old quote,

everybody wants to build or destroy, but no one wants to do maintenance. That was the inspiration for that show. Like, let's intentionally be the guys that at least address the idea of maintenance. Even if we do a poor job of doing it later, let's just talk about it. And, Tracy, I think that spurned her to contact us. I remember she's like, if you guys are serious about that maintenance stuff, that's the kind of stuff I need to do too.

And so in between and she said, I really like you guys' memes. I myself sitting there just waiting for the next meme, and my mind was blown. Like, it's still blowing right now forever. Like, Tracy likes meme. Because they they were mostly mine and Jim's memes. We were young in our meme creation phase, but we were active, super active. We would interrupt

sometimes 2 or 3 hours of a work day to make sure we get some good memes made. Don't tell anyone I said that, please.

Those were the days, man. I I remember there was a pig. You guys were

were For naming a pig or something? Yeah. Yeah. Homonculus. That that was the winning name. Homonculus. Hamonculus.

So so who's the who's the pig?

Who owned the pig? Who who possessed the pig?

What what is the deal with the pig?

That was our, piggy bank.

So, yeah, we we would take money, and we would bring it live on the show and stuff it into the piggy bank. And we would encourage people to join our Patreon so that they could virtually stuff money into the piggy bank.

And, so we had I think it was Jim's idea to have a naming contest, and Jim actually mailed out in real life prizes. People received real items In mail.

It was, like, some chocolate covered almonds, and there was something else too.

There was some other stuff, and I never sent it out. It a t my pig t shirt that I was wearing. Oh, man. That's a great shirt.

Yeah.

I'll have to find it. We could raffle that off for a $1,000 a bit.

It's a good idea.

But yeah. So, I mean, that's and the reason the name is so strange, which I started to tell you guys of the RX Only Picture Joe, was because

the original idea from my perspective was to add Jim as the keyboard player in my long defunct rock and roll band. And, you know, so I was trying to get my band back together, and I already had told the other members we haven't played music. Probably, the last time we played music was in 2007.

And there was a 7 year or no. Like, a 5 year gap

since before that or something. No. Oh, no. It was 7 years. Like, we stopped in, like, 03, 04,

And the band was called Rx only

the Panacea.

So it makes a little bit more sense when it's prescription only Panacea.

For those who don't know, panacea is a cure all. It's a word that means it's a cure all. It's a medicine that cures everything.

And

so the original idea was for me to get Jim into the band and use my

extremely powerful

personal magic

To draw the whole band back together like it was gonna be like, the Blues Brothers. You know? And we were gonna add a keyboard player, this guy with the beard, Jim Maiden.

And,

he I mean, to me, he still is. We are. We're a band. We're called Rx Only Panacea. We may never ever get together and play, but it's me and Jim And,

a guy did, on the Internet goes by,

Anti City Super Groove, and we've since become disenchanted as friends and don't stay in touch anymore. Another guy named n eight who made some rare appearances on the old

arts only picture show. But it was Jim's idea. We loved the picture show. We When we chose picture show name before we did, you know, it it transformed

and evolved and changed so much by the time it became the show But it really didn't make sense if you didn't get the real backstory. Me and Jim were gonna, like, do music and make,

like, kind of a black and white,

noir aesthetic Music together. And we had lots of ideas we brainstormed about it. Like, we would get video clips and be like, this kinda has a picture show vibe. You know?

But it and then it never became a musical practice. We did a little bit of musical practice.

We'd we'd play songs together. We had at least 5 or 10 songs on a list, and we played through some of them. But it digressed into,

something more like a strange variety show. And the reason for that is because of a flat earth debate I had with, a man who later turned out to be,

attracted,

heavily attracted to,

Young Women and was funded by Jeffrey Epstein, shockingly enough. I don't know if you knew that, Jim.

Oh, yeah. Pause there for a moment.

What?

So should I tell you guys wanna hear, like, the quickest backstory history of the Flat Earth Debate on Andy Worske's channel?

Yeah. You might as well. Because that's really where picture show came from because we got the live streaming bug from that.

Okay. So I'll try to I'm gonna

lord Jesus, help me move this down into a nice little quaint piece of storytelling. Okay. Here I go. Let's see.

So

I used to watch,

Internet Blood Sports, and there was a few channels back in the day that would have Internet Blood Sports in it. They would just have people

Come on and, like,

have pretty vehement but reasonably well managed arguments with each other. And for me, it was a way to distract myself from other deeper and harder to understand subjects like Tracy Twyman, for example. Like, sometimes your brain gets full, and you need something

really stupid that doesn't require anything.

And so I think I was on 4 Chan actually, and I found Blood Sports. And, one of the main guys who made it huge was, named Andy Worski.

And, there was a few other channels, but Andy Worski at the time had a partner named,

Jean Francois Garapie,

j f g.

And,

I was chiming in with super chats and trying to get them to,

to respond. And so I had sent a super chat if they would ever consider interviewing,

E Michael Jones because I thought E Michael Jones and JFG, the strange,

Quebecan Frenchman,

would be, I thought it would be great. And they didn't really even see it or ignore it even though I sent them $5. So instead, they kept having the chat, was always hammering them, When are you gonna have a flatter blood sports? When are you gonna have a flatter blood sports? So I sent $5 and said, I challenged John Francois Garape

to a flatter

blood sport, and he immediately,

on the air, accepted the offer.

And so From there, we we worked it out in the chat to have it on April 1st. What? Was it 2017, probably, Jim?

Yeah. I think so.

And, and it was great. There was, like, 4,000 people live. Jim hosted my livestream,

experience in his basement and helped me get set up and get ready. And, it was really, strange. It's still up there. You know, if anybody wants to see me,

argue flat earth against a strange Frenchman,

You know, a very intellectual, and, I think he's got his doctorate, and he's just he's a really strange dude.

And, he did later turn out to have his own channel. He had received grant money from Epstein and openly admitted it on the air. Like, oh, he's like, yeah. I got the money from Epstein to start my channel. I'm like so it's real it was really weird. And he did a lot of stuff that was really uncanny and not good, like, involved with like, he had an autistic girlfriend who was He was trying to marry, but her parents wouldn't let her. And she was in the States, and he was from Canada.

And, you know, he kinda was able to defend himself against the strange accusations in that situation. But then as time moved on, like, more strange stuff came up about him, and him and Worski parted ways. But,

Long story short, me and Jim had a great time, producing and being a participant in the Flat Earth debate on Andy Worske's channel. In the next week,

Jim and I both had the,

the live streaming bug. And Jim it was Jim's idea, I remember, because Jim's like, let's do it again. You know, let's do it. You know? Because, I mean, I liked it, and I had a great time. But I wasn't thinking, like, let's push this and and start a show immediately. But Jim's like, let and I'm like, cool. Yeah. Let's do it. Let's do it. So we just, like, threw everything together as fast as we can to make sure that we could go live, and we were using Google Hangouts at the time. And,

and we just went live. Like, yeah, like, we called my brother and asked him if he wanted to come on. Ironically, to also talk about weird pedophilia shit From the guy from the the,

Ren and Stimpy show. His name is John k, and he also got caught doing a bunch of weird shit with little girls. And so that was our first guest. And after that, the rest was history. Me and Jim went live almost every week for probably for it was probably almost 3 years, I'll bet.

And, you know, somewhere in the middle of all that, we really, really fell in love with Tracy Twyman and all of her work. And we started trying to communicate with her, and,

And she eventually,

you know, received our gestures well and became our friend and did, you know, some of the greatest work I've ever done in my life along with Jim on that show. You know?

That's right.

The picture show. That's exactly how I remember it. Yeah.

And it was great because we we were able to not completely go away from the,

because with me and Jim were serious about the,

what do you call,

the variety show. Like, was you know, I saw it going in that direction, and Jim totally agreed. So he knows how to juggle. I know how to yo yo.

We're both artists.

So we would, like, do artsy weird stuff, play you know, I play music and sing. And so Tracy, you know,

encouraged us in that. So that those are some of my favorite shows of, like, Her reading out loud while me and Jim sculpt and paint and, like, this kind of stuff was just a blast, man. It was a great time.

It was quite a wild west.

Yeah. Yeah. I noticed that it it it influenced other streamers immediately to change their approach how they stream because it tripped me out. People would send me private messages and Twitter, like, dude, these guys are copying you guys. And I'm just like, you know, fine with me if people wanna be inspired that we're doing something weird and they wanna try to Get away from your standard interview format. That's fine with me. But

Yeah. It definitely caught on.

Yeah. I mean, we you know, looking back on it, I I it's that feeling of, like

Like, how the fuck did we did that? That was us? We did that?

That's how I feel, you know, like like, no. That's,

you know, maybe that's just the Mandela effect and, you know It was They say they say it happened, but I don't I've got something like a vague recollection of it happening every week and some anxiety intention of not being ready. Like, I remember one Time, we were gonna get ready to go live with Tracy. We didn't have anything ready. Like, we didn't you know, we could barely get her in because of the technical difficulties, and we didn't know what we're gonna do. And I think in that episode, either

Alex or,

this cool guy named Harrison,

He came one of those guys, I think, came in and saved us. And my plan, otherwise, was I was gonna start reading,

the the book of Ezekiel with Ezekiel 1. I was just gonna you know, the wheels within wheels. That was my plan. I was just gonna be like, alright, Tracy. I'm gonna read this out loud. Let's talk about it. And, you know, Jim Would definitely be involved, but Jim used to participate mostly in the chat. Like, Jim really held the chat together, and it made to me, that was like someone having to keep The hyper drive ready to go. Like, you know, like, you managing the chat. Like, if you would've ignored that, the whole show would've just gone sideways like the rudder broke or thing because you were able to keep the chat engaged in whatever we were doing and participate in

the off to the side madness that is any livestream chat. Live stream chat is a nation unto itself.

I haven't even looked, but I see it moving over here. I have a window with the chat. And I know

They might be chiming in about what we're talking about, but they are definitely engaged in a whole bunch of other things that probably can't easily be described.

There's always a tendency

to have a chat box and

as a viewer,

never knowing quite what to say. So you just kinda type in the first thing It comes to your mind

to see if chat even works. Yeah. Because there's a tendency

to

Not know if there's a conversation going on, but wanting to keep going.

And then the conversation, the chat can be so

Different from what the on air folks are talking about.

Yeah.

And that's totally fine.

Absolutely beautiful.

Yeah. To me, it's one of the most wonderful things that's come out of the Internet in recent history. I love the Internet, but it's kinda gone sideways on us. But the fact that there's a parallel

there's really, like, parallel performances going on between whoever's streaming and whatever they're trying to cover,

And especially if it's got any reputation as a show, so there's at least 20 or 30 people that are aware of it, then you get regulars.

And the regulars have massive weight and influence in the chat, you know, or some weirdo shows up that's really popular. Like, if Keemstar popped into our chat right now, You know, regardless of what we think, it would it would put huge waves in the pool. We'd be like, oh my god. Does he wanna come on? You know, like, there'd be all this Stuff would happen. You know? And then maybe I'd private message Jim, like, don't have him on, man. I don't wanna talk to Keem Star right now or whatever.

Just kidding, Keem. If you're out there, pop on, bro. We'll talk to you right now. We we got drama. You wanna hear about the drama?

I don't think I've ever watched GameStar.

Is this something that That's a that's to your credit. Absolutely. That's almost the equivalent of saying I've never walked into Walmart.

Wow.

That's tough.

Do you do you guys know Kim and what he does, I only know about him because of of, Worski's show too. And I did see in the chat that the Barsky Worski connection. We could do a whole show

just

Comparing

Andy Worske to David Barsky. Like, we could really do our homework, take a couple weeks, and pull up these guys' info and bios and their high and low on the Internet and just do a parallel

comparison of them. So the the topic now seems to be about

live streaming

on the Internet

Going back to the beginning of live streaming,

and in 2010,

I was live streaming.

Awesome. I don't know if any of you

remember me from that. I've got social media followers that I've had for

over 10 years, maybe

15 years, some people,

because I've been on the Internet.

So I don't even remember how

I know these people or if they know me. I don't remember because it's been so long.

In 2010,

there's a website called Blog TV.

Does anyone Oh, that rings a bell. That kinda rings a bell. Yeah. Blog TV

run out of

Israel

was a place where

anyone

could stream

free

anytime they wanted to. There was other websites like stick cam stick them.

Stick them. Yeah. I remember that one too. I don't think I ever used any of these, but I remember them. I'm sure I watched some.

Mhmm.

Yeah. There was a lot of opportunities for people with webcams

to broadcast themselves

publicly

Or otherwise,

blog TV

was trying to get YouTubers

to livestream

on their platform.

YouTube did not have live video

at this point. Yeah. So Blog TV

And STICAM,

and

I'm trying to remember the other names of some of these services,

would allow you to stream live.

So if you were a YouTuber,

you could have a vlog and then say I'm going to go live on Blog TV tonight.

Blog TV would try to pay people,

Yeah. Revenue.

So I did get a check from

Blog TV for my Blog TV show. Did you cash

it? Yes. It was it was a direct deposit

Oh, okay. I was gonna say that would be so sweet to have the I would frame the hell out of that printed check. That would be so cool. You know, I've I've got a lot of stuff. I'd have to go through records.

I don't even I don't even remember a lot of the stuff, and then I just open a box and flip through it. I'm like,

Oh, yeah. That. I remember.

If you're not careful, you can spend your whole weekend doing that and then feel really flat and detached and depressed for a month. It's

a way to keep track of history having

actual

receipts.

Yeah. Items. Physical items. The mad it's the madness in the world now.

Yeah. So I pulled They they use propaganda to tell us that it's wrong. They make a whole television shows. These people hoard. Look how bad it is to hoard. You shouldn't keep big piles of papers, especially, not newspapers.

Oh. And what was your I'm I'm really curious now. What was your I mean, did you would you show, like, a pretty big hit? Did you have a big audience? And, I mean, you have people still following you, so it must have been pretty awesome if they haven't, like, fallen off and they're still like, yep.

It it was a single man variety show. I'd Turn on the camera, and sometimes I'd be reading books,

like audiobook narration, and I would just keep reading it. And I'd read for about an hour, and then I'd say, okay. Thank you for listening. Good night, everyone. And then just Awesome. That sort of thing. You know, whatever.

And,

Oh, there'd be times where we'd have dance parties,

turn the lights out,

have dance parties. I do fitness shows where It ended up becoming a striptease. And

one time

one time, I accidentally shared the link to a Facebook page.

My aunt saw it, clicked on the link,

watched me dancing around with my abs on full display,

And then later on,

told me this in person and said it was very interesting.

I said,

yeah.

Jim and I can relate to that because either one of our mothers would occasionally let us know that they had caught portions of the show. Now my mom is pretty freewheeling and pretty kinda hippie ish, so I'm not too worried. But, you know, Jim's mom, I love her. She's awesome. But Sometimes knowing that she might be watching definitely influenced my ability to be completely at ease.

You know? I mean, there's more to the story than that. I'm not gonna say. But, you know, it was like Like, we would we would have that conversation sometimes. Like, dude,

do you think your mom's gonna be watching?

Like, I don't know. Like, and then I would just shake it off. Like, it doesn't matter. You just have to I just have to do pretty much what I was gonna do anyway. But you can't really just do what you were gonna do. Extra knowledge has been added

That this is a possibility. But

but she loved I mean, she always had nice things. She never she never gave us any guff. Did she get Jim?

Oh, no. I I don't think so.

She I I don't know if she could handle it because we were talking about pretty intense stuff. So she would probably That's that was my biggest fear. Like, oh, no. No. What if we start, you know, talking about, like,

ancient Jewish,

File baby eating vampire blood drinking rings that are all directly connected to intelligence

agencies who are in cahoots with the Blackest of magicians that are all tied directly into Hollywood.

Like and then someone had the insight to add to that, know, like Tracy. Like, oh, yeah. You're right. Sean here. Let me tell you a little bit more. And he just breaks it down like someone pulling out the accounting book. You know?

Here's how it happened, and here's the symbols they used, and here's the time date stamps of everything that we think happened 10 years ago. And, like, oh god. It was scary.

Picture show was pretty scary.

Blog TV was a very scary place, I'll bet, man. I had no idea. Do you have any of that stuff?

I I I've got stuff on hard drives. Let me tell you this. So Blog TV,

Israel

mhmm.

Okay.

So I'm broadcasting there, and I would give out my Skype to people.

So we'd go off,

and we'd be on Skype

because their their PM system was terrible.

So I would get messages

from

hackers.

Leg legitimate people No. I know. 2010 is in different ways. They would call me up,

never show me their face, but they would talk to me. And I would

And they would tell me stuff.

There there's a there was a,

a

A person from Canada with a police badge number.

He gave me his police badge number

and was telling me what was going on, The investigations that were going on

to certain users

on the platform

warning me,

Yeah. To to associate? Yeah. Giving you the heads up. That's nice that he did that actually because that's the he could keep you out of a lot of a lot of trouble.

That's it. Yeah. That's evidence of a good cop. Maybe not all cops are bastards.

I know that one saved little Wayne's life too. So that you know, that we got 2 evidence for at least 2.

It's How to save little Wayne. Crazy. It's crazy. And we take this stuff for granted. 10 years later,

I

I was experiencing all this live on the air

on different platforms,

and

It it didn't even seem like a big deal to me. I was just taking it all in stride. Write notes down. Okay. What's your police badge number? Okay. Write it down here. Okay. Because he would keep telling me, and these other people would

that that have to establish their identities.

And it's like,

this is a Cyberpunk

game that I've gotten myself

involved with with different

special interest groups And multinational

corporations in Yeah. Because you were a super early adopter.

I I I just wanted to play a Beatles movie on a Saturday night and then restream it and watch it with friends and do, like, a lot of commentary over it.

There there was Mystery Mystery Science Theater 2000 with yellow submarine. Sounds great. Correction

anywhere on any of the stuff.

No. It took them a long time to figure out how to wrap their head around and then implement

how to make YouTube really suck forever. And then and they and they they dumped

More money than Bezos is worth into making sure that they could,

invest in their chance to make it suck forever with the, like, the 10% chance that also might be able to make it profitable. And then they just went hard with implementing,

like

like Satan. They just went at it. Like, I know I'm wrong. I'm gonna do this. This is all I'm gonna

do. Because we all remember, especially, I mean, I, you know, I was definitely on YouTube and screwing around.

And I did a lot of early adopter stuff like that too. I used to get in

Interesting conversations and relationships with people in chat rooms way back like Yahoo chat

and, you know, and, like, you know, Geocities

and I mean, I never built the Geocities, but I, you know, I I dinged around with all those kind of people.

And I, did you guys ever use, ICQ?

Mhmm. Yeah. You know? I remember the hiccup noise that they used to make when you get a message.

You know, like

and I used to send people audio clips. Not much video. I wasn't but I'd send people, like I'd I'd sing or play songs or talk on the microphone, and we'd trade stuff back and forth. And

I miss it, man.

I miss that Internet. That Internet's gone.

When did you have your first website up?

You know, I never got into I well, no. That's not true. Let's see. I, I had an idea to keep track of

All of the I was gonna I was gonna

I was gonna scrape all the data from all of the different religions in the world that I could find and put them all into an interactive page called Adherence.

So at one point, I had adherence.com,

and I had the beginning of the data up there.

And,

well, that would have been a long time ago, man.

I don't know.

Like, 2003?

Sure.

And it it might have been before that, but that seems close right. You know, it could have even been, like, 99 or something, but I just don't remember for sure. But I never did it. You know, I mean, I got it up there, and then it pooped out. And I tried a few other things like you know, I have some blogs that have been around forever.

One that I still use,

spalgeur.blogspot.com.

Actually, it's sonio.net

now. You know?

But,

because I finally bought a real you know, my domain.

But I never I never got into design, but I put stuff up. We had The page I mean, Myspace pages

and and shit like that, you know Yeah. For us. It kinda brings up to today where we have to have our own website

and our own host just to publish

what we want to

Yeah. And have it not Vanish.

Have it possibly not vanish?

Or not appear to someone who we want it

want to show it to. Right. They can't see it.

We can see it. We can't understand why we send them the link. They clicked the link, and there's nothing there. Yep.

No. I think

I think George Orwell would be absolutely

astounded

at the real level of what he, vaguely

Predicted and was articulating in 1984. I think he'd be like, well, I didn't think it would be like this. This is way way worse, like, to magnitudes than I ever imagined. You know?

Because it's so strange. Like, they hit you up in DMs now. They're like, bro, you can't you don't wanna send that DM, do you? That's gonna get you deplatformed over here. You can't have that private correspondence with another user.

Click this button, and we won't penalize you, and we'll just pretend like it didn't happen. Mean, they act like a bad school teacher does. You know? Like,

they give you that same shitty, like, gangster deal.

Like, hey. I just caught you doing something bad, But if you wanna get out of it,

then here's what you here's what you do. You know? If you try and send you guys know. If you try and send bootleg media through a Facebook message, just acts like it doesn't work. Like, here's a book you can pirate to check out before you buy a hard copy.

Like, no. Facebook's like, get out of here with that shit. You can't you can't send that.

They know? Facebook knows? Yeah. There there's lots of websites if you try and drop it in DMs,

especially if you try and drop it on Facebook proper. But lots of things if you try and drop it in DMs. Like, if I went and found,

a copy of a a book we both like and try to send you the PDF so that we could easily access it and cover it right now, It wouldn't work. I'd have to text it to you or email it to you.

You know? And I saw,

oh, no. I, so insider tip From someone who,

is actually,

somebody who works,

like, tech security, like, web security stuff

For the state, and I won't say which state, but, he told me,

that it's coming down the pipeline that the Biden administration is trying to do what we were just Talking about

concerning,

text messaging.

Like, they're gonna start policing text messaging. Like, if I send you some, Let's say COVID

link

and, and they don't like it or it's not what they want, then they can start to police that somehow too, which to me is just drastically, like, oh my god. You know? What the hell? Insane.

That's sickly like, oh my god. You know?

What the hell? Insane. That's insane. Heard of it from a insider, you know, because usually I find stuff like that you guys do. Find it on Twitter. Somebody DMs it to you. Or you find it, you know, on some website you probably shouldn't even be on, but there you are. But this guy told me, like, oh, yeah. It's coming down the pipeline that, the Biden administration is trying to start to police,

you know, SMS and the you know, what is it? MMS? You know, SMS is text,

and MMS is multimedia

stuff, videos, pictures, audio, or whatever.

And that they're

they're they're looking at that, you know, to take our private our alleged private correspondence to these cell phone companies and be like, hey. Oops. Jim,

you can't send that meme. What are you doing with your your smartphone that you're pay making payments on?

Push this button and take it back, Jim.

That's insane. It is. It is insane.

I wonder if it's how much of it's just fear

Or if there if if it's actually

a possibility that they would do that. Yeah. That's a good question.

But, I mean, this guy's, like, inside of

the system as an actual, like, a high up, you know, tech security state employee somewhere, and and he's seen it,

like, as a, hey. We're getting ready to deal with it. This is gonna be a part of our protocol too. You know? So to me, that means They're implementing to some degree. That doesn't mean it's not still, propaganda and fear tactics.

You know? I used to always tell people that you You can't have enough eyes on the ball to really spy on everybody, but that was before I imagined how they would portray and use

Artificial intelligence

in reality. I still don't have a lot of faith that AI does what they claim it does, but they definitely can use it to algorithmically

do a lot of stuff that takes the reins off of them so they don't have to have eyes on the screen. And we all see how shitty it works. Like, sometimes it does the right thing according to their programming, and sometimes it knocks down, like, your whole healthy eating channel when you didn't do anything. Like, you know, it was fine. And then there's no way to get a human being or ever get your stuff back,

and you're just screwed. You know?

Yeah.

Damn the machine.

Damn the machine to hell.

Or or or bless it to heaven, but either way, we're still stuck with it.

It's it's absolutely true. We're we're living in the Shadowrun

World right now. Do you know the Shadowrun

RPG Now tell us. That

that that sounds really familiar, though.

That'll run. 1989,

they decided that there was a cyberpunk

world with

orcs

And goblins and all the dungeons and dragons creatures,

but it's Seattle.

And it's today, it's modern,

And they combine the cyberpunk elements

of hacking into computer terminals.

Yeah. And it's like, this is a really popular game. Right? Right. Like, huge huge. Right? In 1989,

the pen and paper

Role playing game. There is a there's a version for Sega Genesis and a version for Super Nintendo.

2 very different games using the same source material.

Interesting. And those are in the early nineties. They've had a resurgence.

They've made some more, shadow run computer role playing games,

but I made the comment

That we're living in a shadow run world

now

because I saw an article on The New York Times describing a shaman

On Instagram.

Okay. So we have techno shamanism,

occult It's real.

Yeah. Sorcery. Yeah. It's

and I follow amazing witch. I haven't looked for a while, but I I I enjoyed Tumblr very much. But, you know, I'm taking all of the Porn off of it kind of sucked the life out of it. And it was actually the most honest and interesting place that people were posting adult content in my opinion. And, of course, there was some some shit on there that Shouldn't have been there, like, any website.

When you did that, like, I never had any fun going back to my Tumblr. But when I was on there and it was active, there was this, like,

She was in Kuala Lumpur or, you know, some place in that part of the world,

and she was just dropping all of the dirt on how her family shamanism

Whole practice worked, and her dad was the shaman, and she was, like, the priestess in training. And she was talking about making amulets and slaughtering animals for people to perform magic rituals, And it is just it was so insightful and amazing because she was just dropping it, like, kinda like you described your Vlog TV channel. Like, here I am, you know, here I am on on

Tumblr.

And I've kinda I found a little bit of that stuff on Instagram and stuff, but not nothing quite as insightful as that.

This is the New York Times

printing

the picture of this guy,

Derek,

d u r e k,

Verrett,

verrett,

friend of Gwyneth Paltrow

and consort

of the princess of Norway

Once Oh my goodness. Spiritual healing

to the masses,

he's changed his name from Derek, d

e r e k, to

Durek. Durek.

Yeah. Durek. Yeah. He's more durable now, I guess, as a

Shaman.

Yeah. I appreciate that about you, Alan. When I watch you on the stream, when I can tune in long enough actually participate at all that,

you digress into etymology

and phonetic word meanings, and, you know, that's one of mine and Jim's ancient practices. We didn't do it as much on the show as we would sitting across from each other at work or in person and start breaking it down like, dir,

durek. What does it mean? It's like a Dirk. It's like a knife. Dirk, did he name himself knife?

Like,

you know, there's this all this digression that comes from it, and I I love it. It's wonderful.

I can tell that you also have etymology

apps on your phone, and it makes me happy.

I'm listening. Or if not, you know, hey.

I I absorbed it all from you guys, and now I'm just giving it back.

Everyone thought of that, that it might be our fault.

You guys aren't to blame for a lot of, for some of it for some of it, we're beginning to untangle this,

weaving

spider's

web thing, and I'm trying to get you guys out of my mind and

Well, I thought that's where we live inside your mind. Isn't that I thought that was one of the slogans that somebody came up That's true too.

That is true. Yes. I mean, if, you know, as much as it's beautiful and ironic and catchy, I mean, if you say that we live inside your mind, then it becomes true.

Because it's just a reminder of the truth anyway. You know, it'd be truth no matter what. But if you point it out, you know, Like, if Jim has a red dot in his face and we don't tell him, then, you know,

only he doesn't know and we're doing the best we can. But if we say it's on there, Then we're all we're on a brand new game where It's like Indian burgers. The red dot, and what do we do about it? Alright. But our our origin burgers.

So be, careful what you say because

we speak

reality into existence.

Yes.

Yeah. Every exactly.

I swore in college that I was gonna try my damnest

to have every single

every single thing I say or express be poetry in some regard.

And, to me, that means the same thing and always has. You know? Poems and prayers are are very identical or similar items.

I remember the first time you ever said that to me, Jim, I was like,

uh-huh. Yes. You know?

I've I've done okay. I've still made some mistakes with things that I've said that have cost me almost everything.

That's happened.

I shared some of my stories about intention and things that I've said

on Chance's

inner verse show, my episode with, Okay. You were you went on the inner verse? I'll have to go back and find it. Yeah. Yeah. I because I've been checking out some of this stuff. That's cool.

Yeah. So I share a story, and it might be in the second hour.

Basically,

I was doing laundry, and I get so tired of doing laundry because it never ends.

And sometimes, I load the laundry, and I want it to soak. Right?

But if I you know, you have to it's an old laundry and you spin the dial and you set it and you pull it out and it starts to spin.

Yeah. Sometimes I'll walk away, and I'll forget to even put my laundry in it. So it'll just go through the cycle. I'll come back to it, and it'll be empty. And I'm like, oh, I gotta start it again.

So I said to it. I said, you know, I wish

you would

stop

and let me do my laundry.

And then at that point,

the the spring on it broke. The timer on it broke. So the entire thing just went out of commission.

Yeah. So yeah.

I was like, you've got to be kidding me.

Like, that's not really what I meant. I didn't mean I wanted to wash my laundry in the in the laundromat.

I did it. I literally mean that I wanted to wash

My laundry

manually.

That's right. Having

a laundry machine

that Spins and rinses

for me,

but the timer,

this

just went out.

It happened at the very moment you said it?

Yeah. Beautiful.

Mhmm. Yep.

And it gets worse

Because as we're calling to have the repairman show up,

I get really drowsy,

And I have a really bizarre dream

as they're trying to repair

the wash machine,

And that's

that's on the intro verse show.

So Yeah. I'm definitely gonna go check that out because I I subscribed to Rock Fin. And,

as I move more towards being able to actually get something like a, media presence back in action and doing, That's part of my plan is to get over on Rockfin and just publish over there,

you know,

someday, some way. Just so if if, people are not aware I know some people are aware who are closer to me, but, we've been in the process of a remodel for the house that we've recently moved into.

They told us it would probably be between 2 4 months. It's been 6 months, and the work is maybe

maybe of me gracious

30% done.

And there's all kinds of similar things like you just described, like all of these super ironic, stupid, horrible reasons why things are not actually moving along the way they should. But when this gets to the at least a little farther along, my intention is to put a combination,

music and video production studio along with kinda like The, meditative yogay space

in one room in the house and to also have something like a very large, art studio to make wax art with in my garage. And at that point, I'll feel like, everything's moving.

At least I've got it with the train back up on the track. But right now,

it's just

It's it's a bit of madness. Not in a bad way. Everything's going great. I had the most amazing day today. I I can't you guys wanna hear how stoked I am to be here and where I've come from

Today?

Lay it all on us. Alright. So getting the moment you woke up this morning or the sound I,

Well, let's start a little further back than that. So I was driving from, Walla Walla, Washington

to,

to Boise, Idaho,

And this was probably

almost a year ago now, about 8 or 9 months. And,

I've been eating this awesome diet called the mucusless diet healing system, which Kind of encourage you to remove everything except for, like,

mostly fruit and some salads and occasional cooked vegetables for your diet, you know, and including fasting and other things. And one part of the process for me, since I'm a sugar junkie, is to, like, buy dates and bananas and eat them together.

Because then that's like something it's just like buying cupcakes or cookies, and it works pretty good. So I went to the La Grande co op, and I bought a whole bunch of bananas, overripe bananas and dates. And the girl at the counter told me there's these Guys in Boise, they're doing an all men's yoga group, and it's called Kula Dudes. And I was like, sweet. She wrote it down for me. I went on Instagram. I followed them in, like, Still 4 or 5 months before I did anything. I finally got a hold of these guys, and I went and started doing yoga with them. And it's amazing. It's just the most awesome, affirmative, great group of guys. It's always different every week, but the teacher is really cool. And,

so, one of the guys made an offering to take us on a a hiking trip, And, like, into the Sawtooth Mountains for 3 days in, like and I've never done anything like that. So we've been getting ready. So this morning, I went on a 12 mile hike for the first time in my life carrying a 20 Pound backpack to, you know, get ready.

And then the other guy that was there in the in the group,

me and him have been talking about jamming because he plays the cajon and all this, like, percussion

stuff. It's it's a he's got a really nice setup, but it's it's not like a drum kit. You know? He's got cajons and weird little bongos and And all these cool little drums, and we've been talking about jamming. But today, it finally happened, you know, for months.

So I went from and I didn't sleep last night.

So if I'm a little spacey or I'm talking too much, just feel free to interrupt me. I know it's hard. I apologize. Yeah. Let me But, right there and clarify. If I you you've joined a Hotmail

yoga group

and something about cojones.

Yeah. That's close. Okay. I'd say chicharrones,

but whatever.

Okay.

And, I mean, the guys are pretty hot, But it's not like hot yoga. I wanna clarify that. You know? Okay. And most of them are also taken. You know? The you know, there's a few single guys, but most of them are married to women as far as I know.

Who knows? It's it's you know, our the group is a pretty typical, like,

halfway between woke and halfway between showing the social line somehow,

and that's okay with me. Like, when I the very first time I went, like, I almost canceled at the last minute, and I I hit the guy for the text. I'm like, you guys aren't wearing masks while you do yoga, are you?

And he's like, no. Like, know, some guys will wear it in to but they'll take it off, and no one no one's practicing with the mask on, and and everyone doesn't care. Like, you know, you can either wear it or not. No one cares. And I'm like, okay. Sweet. I can put your doormat or something

so you guys Oh, no. I'm talking about the wonderful

Pandemic,

muy elpopulero,

COVID 19, mascarino man. This stupid thing, this ritual

process of, like, looking like

Like Cobra Kai. No. No. Not Cobra Kai. The other guys, GI Joe's enemy. Cobra. You know, he's like Cobra.

Too much, but I remember earlier

We were talking about some

some battles, some some epic battles between,

Barsky and

Worski. What was the the Worski guy? The

there was a flat earth debate?

Yeah. Yeah. I'll send out Andy Worske was the host of the channel, but the debate was technically against

this, strange Frenchman from Canada. He's a he's a Quebecian or whatever you call him, and his name is Jean Francois Garapie.

And,

so it was supposed to be me versus they they call him JFG for obvious reasons because nobody wants to say Jean Francois Girpi over and over again.

But, Barsky really ended up teaming up on on me against you know, teaming up with JFG against me. You know? And I even called him out on it a little bit. This is not R Barsky. This is a guy. This is great. I love that we're doing the JBarsky.

Ski, who was Yeah.

An e celeb

about 10 years ago Still is. Who still is Still is. And was then 2.

He would gather

personalities

and try to get them to do a head on head

debate sort of

name calling Was he doing that 10 years ago?

Was he doing that 10 years ago?

When do you remember it?

I mean, because it to me, you know, I found it

probably 4 years ago, And I was aware of it before I started clicking on it. You know, like, if you go to a website like 4chan and you see the stupid thread,

Sure. You don't you're smart. You don't click on it. It says blood sports and all this other stupid text. And you look at it, you go, that's really Stupid. And I don't wanna click there because I'm gonna land on things that I don't that I can never I can't get it back. I can't not see whatever's next. Eventually, one day, you click on it. You know? That's Mhmm. So that was probably 4 or it might now be 5 years ago, but I didn't I thought

Worski was, like, trying to be a stand up comic on live streams and, like, trying to do other acting and sketch making and stuff, like, with a guy named Mike Hedley,

Right. And a a black guy from Canada. You also mentioned someone called Keemstar.

I remember Keemstar because Keemstar and I were on the same platform on blog TV.

So Keemstar was on blog TV and trying to do his thing, and I was just trying to read fairy tales and talk about

their Jungian

perspectives. And Man, I would have been way more into your channel. I wish I would have known because we would have been kicking it Yeah. For a lot longer than just these few hours we've been together so far or whatever.

Right. So, okay, back to your story about

Your yoga your men's yoga group and the hike that you're Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, we're getting ready for the hike. I did a huge hike this morning on very little sleep. I finally got a huge jam together with, like, guys that have never met each other, and we played music for 3 hours straight,

just looking at, like, the chords in a book and these guys showing me the stuff that they usually play. And it was, like, The most fired up thing I've done musically in years.

You know? Probably the last thing that even came close was me and John Jim,

maybe having

We might have imbibed some degrees of alcohol at some time and had some pretty uproarious, awesome jams with piano and guitar,

But, you know and we even had some other participants.

But this was something even a little bit different than that because we have this feeling that we could take it out on the road already. Like, it's like, we're gonna go out into coffee shops and bars and and do something because it just came together so easy and so well. And then I immediately well, Thank god bless gym maiden with all my heart for messaging me and reminding me that I agreed to do this tonight also.

You know?

So And and then I, you know, have some technical difficulties, and here we are.

Are you playing at Renaissance

Festivals?

Are you Not yet, but I'd be perfectly glad to wear a kilt even and play at a Renaissance Festival.

As long as they allow me to play my Flat Earth song, which is the real reason that I,

weaseled my way into

show so that we could Play the my Flat Earth song at the end. I didn't tell anybody. That was my secret Machiavellian plan, and it worked great. Like, I had everyone dancing around and having a good time.

Did I talk about Flat Earth in my first appearance on Weaving Spider's Welcome?

I think I did great question. I don't think I've seen your first appearance.

Yeah. That was Jim, did you guys have it all backed up? Did you guys lose a bunch of stuff because of, the man who will not be named?

I did. I lost some stuff on my,

James Maiden,

YouTube channel.

I I read a bunch of Tracy's work, and

That stuff got Yeah. I remember that. Okay.

I might have to interject with commentary? I only got to watch a little tiny bit of that. Did you guys interject Good commentary and stuff?

A little bit.

It I mean,

I talked at the beginning a little bit, and then I take breaks of reading and, You know, I wasn't word for word also. Sometimes,

the dicks the dyslexia

kicked in, and I, swapped in

for the or something. But, You know?

Yep.

Did did did you ever try I mean, I still have a plan to fight my copyright strikes and try and my channel back, but I've just been frozen up on the whole thing. Like, I'm just I have the brain fog. I have all kinds of other things going on. I'm working actively on things that I really can't talk about,

in regard to all of the weird stuff going on with

strange people and unnecessary

hasslinging attacks.

There's always weird stuff going on. And my first episode was episode 30,

Alan Marcus, men of renowned

Traversing a flat

earth.

So from day 1, when I started talking to you guys in the Spider Verse and The Weaving Spider's Welcome thing. From day 1,

we had a fact check put on the video

to tell our viewers,

Listeners

and readers,

what the flat earth model is

and to warn you. Hey. It's an archaic model, says, yeah, the arcade model warning.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Mhmm.

So before we even began

Talking,

our our viewers were ready to learn all about flat earth and my

perspectives on shapes and,

what I see from,

Mount Analog. What do I see when I stand on Mount Analog?

That sounds good. Yeah. I also go back. You said it started with number 30.

Yes.

And is it is it still up there or not? It's still up. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. That's so that gives me something to do. It was on the backup channel live and then reuploaded to this very channel.

So I think it exists in 2 places. Tentative as you guys could imagine to reupload stuff onto YouTube until I get more progress on what's really gonna happen with all this stuff.

Very true.

Yeah. I was thinking that maybe it'd be nice just to set up a burner channel that, You know, just upload a bunch of stuff. The Run a test.

And if it gets taken down, then it's fine. It's not gonna be, something,

You know, you've got you've put all your time into, like Right. Whole channel.

Well, the other thing I thought too was that,

You know, I mean, I figured this is a good plan is to make it so that,

really reproducing this content can become

in a really healthy, normal way. You know? Not like, hey. Let's get some money for this, but let's make it so that, like, I was thinking me and you and other people

could,

I've always wanted to edit the shows down so they're tighter. I mean, we've talked about that for years, literally, and I still intend to do that, you know, someday with your help, you know.

But I was thinking we could do what,

Alan said, like, do, like, a mystery science theater talk over review pause. I just go through the shows and be like, alright. Stop. Let's talk right there. Let's talk about that meme. Let's talk about what so and so just said. You know? Let's talk about Bill Bill Ramsey's hat Or whatever. You know? Present the old shows. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In such a way and to me, like, you could have one show at that point could become

5 episodes of something else where, like, you're just trying to go over episode 27,

and and it could take forever. You know? And to me, that would be be what would make Fun, and you could even make it suspenseful and exciting that way. But don't forget to tune in next week. We're gonna talk about what we promised to talk about this week and didn't get to or that Are you suggesting you want to cannibalize your own work? Hallelujah. Yes. Well, I mean, that's all I do. I'm an artist that, Make something beautiful and has 2 or 3 people yell at me to stop and that it's good enough and I should leave it alone. I could even sell it, and then at that point, I proceed to Ruin it a little teeny tiny bit. It makes me happy. Like, I'm happy with how it ruined it. And they're like, oh, that's you kinda screwed it up. Stop. And then, You know, if I'm not careful, maybe I'll paint the whole canvas black on accident or something. You know?

I made a beautiful painting of me and Jim and our friend Innate,

And,

then I tried to do something fancy with it with poor paints and just ruined it. It's gone. There's photography of it, and that's it. The painting's gone. It's destroyed.

I might even gotten rid of the Canvas itself. I was so frustrated.

I hate that.

Yeah. It happens, man.

If we would just listen to other people when they tell us, then it would, you know Jim, don't touch it. If you go, oh, oh, then we you know, we can just make it into bronze and sell it.

That's that's what real good artists do. Someone interrupts them. They threaten with a bat or something. They're like, if you touch it, man, I'm gonna hit you. And they're like, alright. Then they take it away from them, and someone does all of the work to get it to market. And then, you know I think it's the market time the artist goes in

Is knowing when It isn't.

You know? It's like, oh, it's done. Oh, wait. No. One

one more touch. I'll go now.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

One more touch.

That's wrecked, usually, when I I bought a book by Salvador Dali I've never heard of, Jim. I found a book called,

50,

like,

50 secrets

to creating

to to producing magic or something like that By Salvador Dali. I've got it downstairs.

But it's like it's like instructions from him on which paintbrushes to choose and how to paint And how to put your mustache wax in and how to treat your wife if she's your muse. And, like like, it's all this crazy Dalian shit that I never I mean, To me, the fact that there's DALL E that I've never found is just like, how could this be? Will you guys are holding out on me? There's instructions

from DALL E how to make magical art, And I'm I'm 45.

And now oh, hero. Thanks.

But I need that. I ordered it from Amazon Prime.

Sean, this is a real thing, and

Let me let me figure out how to get into this. So,

synchronicism,

certainly,

It's something that a lot of us, talk about, and

there are brilliant names in the field. And,

that's kind of how we started talking earlier, a few days ago, Sean.

Talking about,

Certain Yeah. That's me. That's it. Terms and thoughts. So what I'm describing Well, I knew that it was safe. I mean, I felt bad for not having a more formal, introductory message, but I actually needed your help. It's like Yes. Yes. This guy, I've been watching him. He talks about it. I know he knows and, you know, I I knew you said something that was so dense with Chris Knowles'

Lingo. About 2 or 3 or 4 shows ago. I don't even remember what, but you just chimed in for just a second, and you said, like, this whole huge dense ball of

The Chris Knowles lore. And I was like, this guy knows. He's following it closer than I am. You know? I could tell by the way you said it. That is that is a that is a truer statement

than you

No. I am

I I owe a lot to Christopher Knowles who has taught me so much. I have studied privately with him Oh, awesome. And continue to do so. I

I probably need to get onto a Patreon plan.

That's,

that's on me for not wanting to,

go on the Patreon platform as a

Pay her into Patreon? There there's, like, other

we were talking about financials, Bloombergs,

Teslas

Yeah. Elon Musk's,

PayPal's

all

this financial stuff is it gets weird,

the payment processors,

Shall we say? So with with Patreon being a platform that I don't know that I wanna trust as something

that's gonna be between me

And a creator, I'd like to go just directly to them. Yeah. That's sort of my preference.

And then I kind of,

disappeared

About 2 weeks ago to go on vacation

and felt great, came back, and then kind of had a head cold for a while, that's why I'm, like,

trying to suppress some coughs here.

But

To get back to the point directly, the idea of this shimmer

creating a dreamlike reality,

creating things that Did not exist before.

Are you following me still? I'm I'm with you. Yeah. I'm with you. So got the answer to my cough drop question, so thank you.

So there so there it is. And this This is kind of what we've been studying in the,

he's got a name for the Synchro Mystic

School, his,

institute his call if you go to the Secret Sun block Yeah. Yeah. And you see what he's talking about here and, again,

I kind of forget the specific terminologies because there's so much information,

and I have to go back to the notes. But part of what part of what the study is about is this

shimmering

effect that brings into our reality

Something that was not there before,

and you're talking about this Dali book that you did not know existed.

And how would how would you not know? You're a fan of Dolly.

You've gone through all of his material. You've seeked it out.

And then for this book

to

appear into existence

and then manifest into your hands, and you're like, where did this come from?

Yeah.

And and, you know, it could be that that,

that because the the story is pretty plausible.

Like, it was in

Spanish, of course, because he's a Spanish artist. And, you know, somebody didn't translate it into English until

whatever it was, the middle or late sixties or whatever. And then they didn't really go and publish it easy to get like it is now until

in the late 2000 or you know? So it all seems very plausible, but that doesn't mean that any of that's true. It could they could have had AI write a book by DALL E and done all of the wet ink back work to make it look like it's legit. And there's not anyone that can do anything to stop or prevent it, including Dolly's alleged heirs or whoever might be,

you know, trusted up inside of his, strange fortune.

You know? And if you know about him, like,

Gala had him signing canvases and totally, completely ruining his own reputation at the end of his life, and he was doing it willingly because he was absolutely a slave to that woman. And,

you're you're in my mind right now. It's like we've read the same books.

Maybe there's a plantard

Somewhere,

are you, remind remembering this,

idea of, the plant engine

Some of the plant,

the prior there's a calendar of a priory of a scion.

Uh-huh.

Jean Cocteau

as a master of the priority of science of a guy who's really good at making documents.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm rusty and all. It's been a long time. But yes. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, that's why I called it Plantard. That's I've been doing restarted plan if we call it Plantard.

Make sure you wanna go by plantard.com

if it's available, like, with immediacy.

I'll tell you guys a secret even though we're broadcasting live. I own internetcringe.com.

So if you guys wanna help me with it, we can do something in that regard. And looks like we've got someone joining us here. Two shoes has joined us.

Greetings.

Hello, gentlemen.

What's up? Sorry to be so late. Hey. What's the montage? I have survived monsoons.

Man, Barstie looks way different.

That's been good to meet you. Yeah. Nice to meet you too, Gordy.

I've I've caught a little bit of your dialogue on here too, and it's very enjoyable. So Oh, thanks, buddy. I appreciate it.

I'm telling these guys, every time I try to log in and just watch the show, I get, like, vehemently interrupted. You know? As we might say, like, by demons. You know?

Yes. Always. And they move through things that I can't you know, I can ignore almost anything, including my own bladder and all kinds of things, but it's always something, you know, like, my dog starts to throw up or something. Like, like, how could this be? You know? Like and then by the time I get back, I'm not I'm not Properly engaged or the show is over, so I'm very happy to be here. Maybe that's why, because this was what was supposed to happen. Like, you know, you don't get to watch. You don't get to sit in the audience, Sean. You're not allowed.

Right.

You have to

interact.

Yeah. Sorry, Alan. What happened? That makes sense. I mean, you know these guys. How how did I get involved with all of this? And I just said,

Destiny.

That's right.

That's very true.

Exactly. I don't know how I got here,

But it happened.

I'm pretty grateful for it, but I don't know how I'm very grateful for all of it too.

Me too. Thank you, guys. Yeah. Jim Maiden, is a is a siren a silent and huge mover behind the scenes, and sometimes he doesn't even know how much influence affects people. You know? Like like, there's a lot of stuff that, I wasn't ready to do, and I was just kinda

on the fence and in a neutral place about and Jim would just in his own subtle but pressureful way, not not not rude or pressureful in a negative way, but just like, Well, we should just do it. Like, why don't we just get this person on? Like, I don't know, man. That's a pretty big deal. I don't know if we're ready to load. Well, we could just do it. Wanna send him a message? Right. Well, I can. You want me to send him a message you really think we should? Like, why don't you just go ahead and do it? Like, okay. You know? And next thing you know, you know,

Things are happening that yeah. Then then I'm having that feeling of, like

like, walking out on stage. Like, oh my god. This is what's like, I'm gonna push go live and then that's gonna happen? Like, oh, shit.

Okay. Okay. It's all good. We'll do this.

Right?

Yeah. It's good to be pushed like that. The Yeah. Especially when it works because, I mean, I'm one of these stubborn assholes that does, know, like, if you try to tell me, I mean, I have to go do something, then now you've defaulted me into that. I don't I may never be able to do it now even if I want to because you said I have to, And you've tried to make me. So now it's over. You know? Yeah. Well, you started Jim's

he's he's crafty without he's not trying to be crafty. He has Innate ability,

which is a pun for Jim, innate ability.

Right. To suck us out of our own

Yeah. It works. Shit. Right? Yeah. It works.

Gee. Thanks. Connector.

He's the connector.

He's the connector of peoples. It's

true.

He's literally like, he's got his sewing machine running over there in the chat, sewing everything together for everyone.

Once once we go live, we're live. So we always remind each other, you know, hey. Pre show poop. Get it out.

No. You guys wanna I'll I'll tell you a funny anecdote to that. Like, the and I used to read a lot of guitar magazines back in the day. And, there was an article about, like,

asking all these pretty popular guitar players, like, what's the most important thing you should do? And, like so, like, new note Benton chords. Like, you should always keep a tape recorder and a pen and a pad. You know? And, like, most of the answers are like that. Like, oh, you should you should practice is for cool fits every day so that it becomes second nature. And Jerry Cantrell from Alice in Chains said, and I quote, make sure you take a shit before you go on stage. And I was like, this this is fucking real advice. This is this is real. This is wisdom right here. Yeah. This is why why you're one of my very favorites. And I'm imagining being, like, I saw Alice in Chains in Tri Cities, Washington in a shitty little,

like, a a hockey arena. So it wasn't tiny little cool venue. It was like a really crappy sounding hockey arena. And that so in my when I read that, I imagined,

what if there's no really available backstage bath Threw him in. You're Jerry Cantrell, and all of a sudden, you got the turtle's head poking out. And you have to, like, go down

secretly through the crowd

And hit the head in the bathroom where everybody just walked into the bathroom, pissed and shit on everything, and ate all of their drugs, and littered the floor with the bags. Like, yeah. You really need to do this Before you go on stage, there's really not a good option

for, you know, you don't because and then people are gonna hit you up like, oh my god, bro. And you're like, I'm trying to shit. Get out of the way. Be rude to your fans and everything. So it was very insightful to me.

This is very insightful.

He also said in the same interview or a similar one that, one time he got, oral sex from a girl who dipped tobacco it burned. And I never forgot that either. That messes with my head to this day.

The calo the caliber of girl that's dipping tobacco has gotten spectacular.

The first one Yeah. I mean, you don't find them in the northwest, man. They are up here in goes well. There's a lot of girls that dip tobacco, a lot more than you think. And they're subtle. They don't yeah. And they're subtle. They don't wanna be looking like a dude dipping tobacco. So they'll put a pouch in let them leave it in there all day, and then they'll secretly throw throw it away at the end of the day or something. Like like you do at work where you with your soda can and you're just, like, Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Or swallow the spit. If you're hardcore if you're real hardcore, you just swallow this, yeah, swallow the spit all day. Just make see, exactly. I have the same reaction you just did, Gordie. Like

Who?

I only ever tried that a few times, and it made me throw up. So I Stayed awake for forever after that. My wife my mouth

started watering this year. Oh, no.

I just I still can't imagine, like, knowing that a girl dips tobacco and still moving forward with the proposition.

So hot. So hot. How do you say no? You can't say no to that. They scared us in high school with the warning that if you dip tobacco and just go pee, that the Skin on your genitals will peel off, and it's true. Like, if you touch

nicotine to your genitals, it will make it peel. And so to me, it was like, that's like dissolving your own dick. Don't do that.

Don't wanna do that.

Don't accidentally become a eunuch because you wanted a blow job. That's stupid. Don't be bad.

Man, I am so glad I joined this co conversation. This is fantastic.

Oh, man.

I'm super excited to be here even though I'm I am I'm a little loopy and exhausted as I just told these guys, I've had a long productive awesome day, but it doesn't matter.

I'm I'm here. And I and I did went through the old traditional RX only picture show ritual, which was to take, what we used to call a red dye and shake it up in a little can and drink it, and so that helps too. You know?

Do we wanna put put the recipe for a red dye?

Yeah. It's,

krat

o m. That's the real Oh, yeah. I gotcha.

I got you.

I I used to love to see the comments back in the day. People would be like,

Is SB drinking mud?

Like, are you drinking mud? Because, you know, you just have this big nasty jar.

You're just taking some some swigs off of it. And, you know, the really,

the really observant participants in the show would chime in. Like, what is that? You know? Yeah. And kinda we just kind of ignored it. We didn't hide it, but we just kinda blew it off. Like

Right. It's whatever, guys.

Hey. It works. Yeah. It's not it's not illegal drugs. That's what we're talking. And and it should not be illegal. That Yeah. No. I Strive to To make kratom illegal is

bullshit. Oh, yeah. You know why though. Right? Because they can't prescribe it. They can't Yeah. Well and not only that, but they're also in the process

of trying their damage to make any kind of patent medicine out of it that they can. So then

Once they do that and they think they've got a line on it, then they'll make it they'll try to make it illegal. I don't think they'll succeed because it's been it's been like this battle's been going on a long time, it's just become more popular in the last, you know, 5 or 6 years or whatever. But,

yeah, it's pretty amazing stuff, man. And it's not It's certainly not like eating something as stupid as Percocet or anything. You know? It's a I see plenty of people manage and work with Kratom and really improve their lives, stop drinking, stop up taking opiates,

not really having, an expensive weird drug habit and still functioning.

You know? And a lot of people just take it for fun, recreationally, and it's not, You know, it's not like, you know, people getting an octacontin prescription, God forbid, you know. Yeah. I don't know how people can do it recreationally. I don't Get anything from it, but it definitely hurt helps with the jonesing off of opiates, man. Yeah. It's it helps for sure.

Yeah. It works. You know? And, I mean, the only other option people used to have similar to that was to go to, like, to a methadone clinic or to,

there's an yeah. There's a yeah. Exactly. There's another,

similar drug. I just can't remember the name of it. You know?

But

same thing. You know? It's some kind of really Shady Pharmaceutical.

Hey.

This will get you off of opiates technically, but really it's still kinda like opiates and you'll still kinda be able to get high if you abuse it, and you'll have to deal with us, the state, or some entity to get it. And if that's just a shit that's a shit Shit referral system that nobody should have to put up with. You know? Absolutely. I bet, you know, I I had a relationship in the past, where I was intimately involved and saw the inside of all of that, and Really, it's as bad as you think it is and worse. You know? Like, it's just so bad. They would all go up there and get their stuff, and then they would all divvy up with

Benzodiazepines,

which if you add them to methadone, make it just as strong, if not stronger than heroin itself, and people would die and then get kicked off the program because they got caught with stuff. It's just like it's just a horrible it's just like having the state as your drug dealer and there's no it's actually a worse drug dealer than a straight

Drug dealer. You know, like, a regular drug dealer actually has a code of ethics that's much higher than the people working at the methadone clinic and the people funding them. You know? So it's a nightmare. So

They only want you as long as you can you can pay as long as your insurance can pay for it. That's right. That's right. It's just a referral for to bill. The billing referral. Exactly. Yep. Nightmare.

Absolutely.

It's it's Speaking of nightmares, I think one's just entered the chat.

Hey. I see. Yeah. It's Andy Worski.

Someone has a beef, and they've entered the chat.

There's a beef? Beef?

Oh, yes.

Finally.

We haven't had a big beef since I've been, on I'm just I'm just looking here. Come on, Jim. Hey, Jeremy. What's happening? God. Can you hear me okay?

David Barsky.

Hey. David

Barsky, my friend. Buddy, Where are you? Yeah. Where is this? Are you gonna turn on your camera, David? I'm sorry. I called you out Andy Worski.

I got I got Andy. Bro.

Give me one second. Gotta get this monitor plugged in. Hold on. I'm a be right back. I gotta pee. I'm sorry. Cool. Hey. Bucks and 6, baby. Bucks and 6. We did it. Nice. Congratulations. I'm happy for you. Thank you. Congratulations, Barsky. I'm I am very happy for you. You've been Even though sons.

And I'm gonna leave my headphones with you guys so that I don't have to pee on the air because that would do it. Or don't do it. Or do it. No. Do it. Come on. Yeah. No. I can't believe it, you guys. Like, it's, hold on. Let me fix this. But, yeah, we, we did I'm shocked.

Giannis,

had an alley oop at the last second to literally like, we were down we were up one

Point. And then Giannis caught an alley oop and was filed on the

at the last second or whatever, caught an alley oop to go up by

this should work. Hey, buddy. Hey. Good to see you, Chris.

Giannis,

caught an Elliott with, like, 2 seconds to go and, slammed it home. Like,

literally was fouled on the play too, and we won by 3 points, and

that's it. Like, we one more game, bucks and sticks, literally.

So,

yeah, this is crazy. This is happening. This is wild, dude.

You guys I don't well, you you do understand. Not riding in the streets? You know? Turn over a fire wire. Yeah? There's fireworks going off literally here. And, I mean, we're I'm not even in Milwaukee, But I could hear fireworks immediately going off here. So that's how

I mean, this is this is crazy, man. Not since 1971.

So

with Kareem

and, Oscar Robertson. So

yeah. 81 was the last time? No. 71.

71.

So yeah. See, I was hoping that the Islanders would would go to the Stanley Cup this year because They're the losers of all losers. You know? They are. They are. I thought Winnipeg was terrible too, the the Jets. Oh, yeah. Well, there's a lot of terrible. Yeah. I mean,

coyotes

always screw it up in playoffs.

I don't know why I care anymore.

I was about to say, weren't They're an expansion. Right? I know. This just went totally into a sports show. Sorry.

Yeah. We just turned it into a Word show. Yeah. Let's talk.

I'm gonna get in the YouTube chat, so,

real quick. The mic sounds Okay. Alright. Everything sounds okay? Yeah. It sounds fine, Ben.

Good. Good. Good.

So,

Like, it says goat on your mic.

You know do you know you know where that's,

you know the company then? I'm where where it's from? You can No. No. I don't know anything about it. Buy and sell is this the shoe The shoe site, you know, where you can get, like,

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm a I'm a member of Hypernova Group. Yeah. I hardly ever use it. Yeah. It's the same, like, StockX, But better because it's, like, most yeah. Exactly.

But it's I mean, the one I'm in is, you know, there's lots of cook groups that you can get into that are either on Discord or other things, but thing that I joined is, like, a mind blowing trip over the top. It's it's it's like a

a tight knit family of people

In a way, it's not you know, they they do way more than just hustle. They kick it in all kinds of tips. You know? Right. Right. They're doing sports betting and selling trailers and cars and, like,

Stuff that you'd never think of. Like, hey. There's a there's a heat wave, so we got the line on air conditioners and fans, and here's how you can get them not only distributed. You know, like, I mean, there's just stuff, You know, if you say much more than that, they might say, hey. We pulled your card, bro. You can't talk so much about what we do over here. You know? Right. No. No. I know that that there is, so I because I remember trying to join, but there was, like, a,

there was, like, some weird sorry. I'm looking at the YouTube screen, and I was, like, can't hear USB, but I haven't

I'm an idiot.

Whoops. But, yeah, I remember joining

I think you sent me a link, actually, a while back. Might have been. Yeah.

And I was checking it out, but there was, like, a waiting list or something like that. And Yeah. They yeah. They they it's a very limited number of memberships, and most of the ones they sell are monthly. So you have to Pay monthly, but I got a I I got before they really blew up, I got a lifetime membership for a really good price. Nice. So that means I beat myself up for not taking better advantage of it, but I've just got the ADD, man. I've got my stupid ass fingers and everything, and, you know, nothing's getting truly done except for, you know, Really important things. No. I I hear you. The ADD runs strong in this group here.

It runs real strong. Hell, yeah. We're taking over the world with it. We just don't know why or how. Right?

Exactly. Or when. Yeah. When. Yeah. When. Yeah. It was Probably yesterday was when and we missed it. You know, that's We're we're supposed to do it on that one day. We're supposed to be do do that saving the world bit, And I got distracted because I had this thing,

and I had this guitar I was putting back together because I had it all ripped up, but I decided it was gonna be orange now. That's right.

Not purple.

And so

but then I decided, you know what? This should have p nineties in it. So I Tort all out again. Yeah. You want single coil in that yeah. I want yeah.

I'm not a pussy. I get it. Dude, then then you're like, no. Now I need JB to do it, and then Just, like, started ripping it up. Yep. And then you went, no. Now I need fine tune. No. I need a big deal. No. I need You know what? Those gold connect connectors.

I have to tear it all back up. That's right. That's not in it. Yeah. I forgot to shield it. Uh-oh. Put these Grovers out. I know. Shielding. So wait. Put the Grovers out. Thanks. Thanks, Doug. Tear the whole thing apart now. Right. No. No. I'm actually, you know what, guys? I'm gonna put a baritone neck on this and, This is what I've been doing. Trust rod and a baritone. Glass slide. Nice. Yeah. I've been I've been playing slide again

a little bit, so that's nice.

I was gonna say, do you are you a fan of ask me, are you a fan of the and, Gordon, This is a question for you as well. Jim, this is a question for anybody that plays guitar here, which we all, I think, do. Except for Alan, do you play guitar at all?

When I attended church, there was So just say yes or no. I love you. S a s m r a s m r. Be damned. Here's the thing. I didn't have an Just say yes or no, though. Do you play guitar? The on the worship team? Not me. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm a mute. Outside electric guitar? I love you. I love you, but I will No. I never quite learned because I was supposed to How about you just say How about I had an electric guitar from sound? I don't have time.

Okay. You do not have any questions in there for answering. Alan. Alan.

Alan.

Do you play guitar or not? Yes or no? Not very well. Okay. There you go. I never I never I never continue with lessons because I never had an acoustic thing. We don't hey. It's all good, brother. You wanna send you one? I love you, Alan. Yeah.

Did you send you one? We could all each send you a 15 minute lesson On our own guitar styles. Right? Like No. I was gonna send the acoustic guitar. He said that he didn't continue because he didn't have an acoustic guitar. So if you had a guitar,

let's let's

Let's pick it up real quick now. What I heard. Like, being someone who's instructed many people in guitar, like, oh, you don't have a guitar? That's the easiest thing to solve. Right. Do you need a guitar? I was in 3rd question. I was in I was in 3rd grade. Again, I do you need a guitar then? I'm not a fan of the field at anybody.

Church how to play guitar So that they can That's what I worship. You had a d a d, but I think that just confirmed

some other suspicions. But that's okay, Alan.

That's okay. Okay. So you had a question for us about, guitar. Does anyone remember what it was? Yeah. I do. I remember. It's, the aluminum neck. Yeah. Is

I actually have one of those right there on the shelf. Okay. For real. Just want to say. You wanna send it to me? Because I can no.

I I got I need do you want what do you want? Like, 800, 904?

Oh, it's acoustic. It's a weird applause of acoustic guitar. Oh, I know what you're talking. I know what you're talking. But I'm talking about the What brand is it? Is it electrical?

I think I feel like it's, electrical. That sounds right. Electrical. Yeah. Because Albini

was using them,

Like because Ampeg first brought them out. Right?

Ampeg first brought out the aluminum from what I right. It's been a long time since I looked at it, but that sounds right. Yeah. And then

and not Jim, do you know what I'm talking about? Do do you know what we're talking about with the the tuning pegs are?

You have that straight you have the 2 you have that one guitar with the tuning pegs at the,

bridge

right area, Don't you?

He does. Yeah. Oh, is it are you guys talking about, like, a Steinberger where it doesn't have the head and it doesn't have the head? The one that Jim's got is just the traveler.

He's got a he's a traveler. He's double in the back. Oh, right. There. But the the standard,

the standard ones because they were making them with plexiglass

For a while, because I know Scott from Fu Manchu was using that for a while.

The plexiglass guitar, it's really heavy, but it's got an aluminum Yes. Net. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. I know what you're talking about. It's

they're,

they're made by some dude in California. I can't remember his name. Dan Armstrong? Dan Armstrong. Dan Armstrong. That's it. Damn. Yeah. No. It is. It's electrical. You're right. Electrical is a car company. Okay. Yeah. Out of Chicago. Right?

Yeah. I just glanced at the name real quick to be sure. Oh, yeah. Because I know Albini well, I'm thinking of electrical audio, and that's Albini Studio in Chicago.

We just lost probably. Yeah. We lost 5. Yeah. Just everybody left. Yeah. Because there were Hey, guys. I like it. Called

nerds,

guitar nerds, Do you guys I thought this was a conspiracy show. Oh, yeah. We we need our we're short acting on there. I mean, if you wanna hear how this aluminum neck came to be, then you gotta wait for the Okay. Let's let's hear the story. Let's go there. I do wanna know the story. I'm just making shit up, you guys. Because I feel like stole

it.

Yes. Daz is in the house. What's up, brother? Bucks are and I'm waiting for it. I know they are. In 6, baby. I'll I'll just pretend like that's what you meant, because yeah. We got this. Krista, it's good to see you.

Yeah. We are live. You're damn right. We're live. I heard fireworks out there, my man. Spell check. Smell check.

Yeah. Right? Hey. I wonder where our boy shouting at clouds is. You around, boy? What's up? We we we're still waiting on our checks,

from who? Biden,

the boogaloos.

Yeah. We where's my

Where's the Wait. Are we shills are we shills on this channel? Oh, yeah. Yeah. We're shills. Apparently. Officially. Like, Billy Ray called free NFTs. Billy did it? Yeah. And Billy Ray Valentine is actually running

the whole,

he's Billy Ray is running the whole operation,

actually. It's it's Billy Ray Valentine. What's up, my man? What's up, Billy Ray? Shouts.

Yo. We need our checks. You've got to mail out direct deposit. Do you need me to send yeah. Because we'll hook you up with this router. Make sure people know that we're we're joking.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. We're definitely joking. And me and Jim used to make this joke constantly on picture show too. Like, if you need to you need to contact us and let us know what you want us to shield, And you need to send us some money upfront, and we will immediately start shilling it within reason. You know? We're not gonna shill really bad. I'm not gonna tell people, like, to to slam fluoride shots or anything. But, you know, there's you know, but we never I never heard it from anybody. I never got any money from anybody to, like, say certain things and avoid certain things. Like, You know, I invited him redundantly on livestream to do it. Like, hit me up. You know? Right. Like, we we we we Wu Tang is for the children.

Yeah. What's your chain, Rizzo? Oh, no. We did do a little bit of advertising early in the show.

Alan, was advertising

Ricola.

Oh, I thought I was gonna say Jesus. A variety of others. Jesus. But that's cool. That's natural.

That just happens. That's auto.

That's auto auto,

oh my god. Got a dog freaking out.

So yeah. What what's been going on? Naked tango dancing. I don't know. There's a lot of swingers, Daz, from what I understand. We have a lot of blue wrenches here.

But, yeah, what what were we talking about? Conspiracies live. Have we tweeted the link to let people know we're live? Probably not, But I'll do that. Wasn't it? I thought I did. I'm pretty sure I did. And I dropped you on Facebook too. Uh-huh. Yeah. You must have. Should we I'll hit the Discord too. Oh. You want us to be live right now? That Telegram.

Yeah. See, we all take 1. We all take 1.

You hit the Telegram. I'll hit Allen got it already, I think. Oh, Alan's all I hit the Discord. You hit Discord? Already about it. Yeah. And I I warned Discord when we were having technical difficulties too because I saw the link was in there and so, you know because that's, like, our our club. It's like, hey, guys.

Right. Of course, stuff's going. We're like, we, of course, had, like, what? Was it 30 or 40 minutes of tech difficulties, guys?

Really?

Seriously that long. It took that we me and Jim both had to reboot our computers more than once. I I rebooted 9 ones and tried to use my cell phone, and it still didn't solve the problem, which to me is a mystery that I'll I have to forget

To think about that, like, I'm getting echo feedback from my laptop with 3 different earphone devices, 2 Bluetooth, 1 plugged directly in. Won't go away. Reboot the laptop, still there. Yeah. Plug it into my smartphone, note 10 plus instead.

Still the identical problem. This makes no sense to me. And I'm reasonably adept at this tech bullshit if I really wanna be. I'm very lazy about it, But I I do understand how most of it works, and I still I don't I don't understand how that could be. I mean, other I guess, it was coming from Jim's side. After Jim created a link, The 3rd time's the charm link worked.

Yeah. We And we were it. You were persistent, and our tenacity brought us to this moment where we could get the entire band Together. The band? Yeah. We're getting the band back together, you guys. Okay. RX only panacea. Oh, wait. And now we're live so people can hear everything we're saying.

Yeah.

Incredible.

It is incredible. You guys want me to play a Rolling Stone song?

Do it. If we're gonna get

with that one. No. No. No. Is the AI that good that they can tell if I'm doing a shitty job of being Keith Richards?

Here you go. So let's see. I need a pick. I mean, is that a a weekend no. We don't get No. We don't There's no copyright strike for me covering a They might cover the other day. It's a cover. It's a cover. Get my

Here you go. Let's see. Which one of these I wanna pick Someone's a mic pick. I just dropped a pole, by the way. Guitar. Since So I got this guitar for $25.

And you can see that someone actually put their own moon inlay on the neck. You see that? That's clever.

Yeah. It is a these old any of these old Yamahas, they have a red sticker inside. This is a really small one, like, almost like a parlor sized guitar, But it's called fg75.

What what's the next what's or what's the, what's the,

The scale? Yeah. The scale, man. I I don't know. If it's if it's less than full size, it's not by much. I think just really the body is smaller and the neck might be very much shorter.

My other guitar is 22.

Is it, like, a 22 fret?

Yeah. I think it still just got 22 frets. Yeah. Looks like it.

Well, let's see. 12, 15. Yeah. 17, 19. So it looks like only 20. 20.

So let's see. How does this work? Just gonna see if Michael Deacon he he finished up a bit.

I see.

That one.

How's the lyrics go? You guys know that song,

That sounds terrible, Bob. Yeah. Better stock.

So it's, I never kept a dollar past sunset.

Yeah. I think that's enough. Otherwise, I'm gonna find a woman that keep me happy coming up here and being like, I'm gonna kill you. Yeah. Really bad late at night.

I sent Anthony a link, Jim, if that's cool.

Is that Yeah. That felt good. Now we got variety show vibes.

Damn. Nice.

That's good. Yeah.

Kill this Kill the And maybe look around for a yo yo. I don't see one, unfortunately.

I'm surprised I don't. There should be a yo yo here, but oh, well. I bet Alan juggles.

Alan, do you juggle?

Well, there's a lot of times when in children's church, it'd be like, we need a vong You're alright.

Yeah.

Between

the 2 jugglers, but I don't, myself, I don't actually do the juggling. Sometimes I'll, like, Tossed a knife at them so they could begin to juggle it, but I don't pursue it. You the juggling.

I just I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna risk it a deeper digression here and and ask, like I'm assuming that you really do have a lot of experience in children's church. I don't think that any of that's fabricated. K. But has this become a meeting where you answer intentionally about

youth group and children's church no matter what? It's tied back to it no matter what. Is that what happens?

And I'm just now picking it up because I was, like, really relating all of these experiences

as if you had

one of the most

Banal and horrifying Christian upbringings that I'd witnessed personally that didn't involve physical abuse. Well, I'm not saying it didn't, but let's talk about that part.

Was that you, Marcie?

He's an award winner, though. Allen's an award winning Christian.

Award winning Christian. Seems like a contradiction. I'd love to hear Jesus' take on that. I love it. I love it. Jesus Awards. Like, who It's True. I am an award winning Christian because I have junior bible quiz trophies.

Nice.

Wanna sell 1? I'd like to have one too. Our our organizer

So Junior Bible Quiz in, Brainerd, Minnesota up there, I I saw her again at Bible Camp this year a few days ago when I talked to her. And I asked her if she remembered,

the

DOS software. There's a JVQ game. It's bible trivia, basically. You're asking bible trivia questions, and you have a little buzzer, and you buzz in to answer the questions Yeah. The other team. And there there was a,

battleship version of this where you'd have to buzz in, and then you have to answer the, Bible quiz question on on DOS operating system

software game, and I was asking her if she remembered this.

And she was like,

she was like, you know, you are a very good quizzer. You you are a better quizzer than than than the the the children and the pastor, actually. So

Okay.

So did would you say you have more Bible knowledge now or less than when you were good at the quiz part?

I have a more varied,

knowledge of

now. Yeah.

Have I have I told you you guys more books now. Right. Right. There's insight from other books that makes the bible,

it makes it something very different than what it was. Because I I used to be a part of Awana. Did any of you guys go to Awana? You ever heard of Awana? Awana. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. Right. So, you know, they would they would encourage you to do a lot of memorization in Awana for for, like, prizes. You know, they gamified bible memorization. And so I have a lot of,

like, you know, I could rattle off most the books of the Bible in order. It's not perfect, but it really has helped me to navigate the Bible. You know? I do you remember? I remember. I think I wasn't wanna ready ready for anything, ready The workplace, serve, obey, worship, live. I've remembered that for some Wow. Yeah. Good job. Wow. Is that is that right? That's what it was. Right? That's right. That's right. That's right. They did a they did a good job with the I could remember the song. You know? It's like,

hellowanna

on the march for youth. Hello,

know, I get the little

That doesn't sound not to use at all. No. There's

right? Not at all. And it it had the little flame logo. Right? Yeah. I was a little afraid of the whole story. They had a rainbow

game floor where you would play specific Awana games in competition with beanbags.

Yeah. It might be different. The song goes camp

on Awana. We have Camp on Awana. Our heart. Just when we think about you, it makes Me wanna fart.

Yeah. That's can't that that's a different song. But Awana the word Awana is in there. Yeah. Was that the end of the loading show? I think so. Yeah. Oh, that was a lot of Lose your shorts. Something about your shorts? So lose your shorts. It was Delete your shorts. That was it. Yeah. Yep.

Pete and Pete. Yeah. I just got a notification that says I can click here and set up professional audio. I really doubt it, guys. I don't think there's any way for you to generate me some professional audio to set up by clicking this button. I'm gonna close it. It's annoying. Customer quality audio or for? Is it in It just popped up. I don't know why it popped up, but it's on the Zoom. You know, it's in Zoom. Are you using the little pop up?

What are you using?

I'm using, my,

Surface Book 3.

Okay. And are you just using, like, Bluetooth? I'm I'm wondering. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So you're using headphones and okay. That Yeah. I mean, that's all I got set up right now. You know? I've got all kinds of good stuff to make into really higher production value audio. It's just not ready to go. You know? I was about to say, does it where is it pretty because, like, I tried with the iPad Pro last night, Test it with the Michael Deacon. Shout out to Michael. He was he's too tired to come hang out, but we we love you, buddy. But,

He, we tested this m b 7, and it works great with

the pro. And it says it doesn't work at all With it. But it worked good? Because I was thinking about buying a s m 7 to to use. That's

This one. This one. That's better? Because it's got an XLR too. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. Got both. Both.

And it's not I mean, you tell me. Is it sound quality? I mean, this is USB then because I don't know if it's better than fine, man.

But it sounds better than the old one. Yeah. Exactly. And I haven't really messed with any of the sound effects. The reason I was gonna get the s m seven was because I intend to use it for real recording too. But, I mean, that thing will probably work just now. This is the same thing, and you don't need a Cloud Lifter for

where you're probably going to need a, you know, a a dynamite stick. I I prefer the dynamite stick to the Cloud Lifter, but That's just me. Oh, yeah. I I went and bought a a duet, I think.

An Apogee?

I think so. I think it's forget. It was just on sale, and I knew I needed 1. It's got 2 XLRs in the front, you know. And I don't wanna go inside baseball too much because I don't want, your

Viewer count to drop more because we started out. Exactly.

No. It's all good.

But, yeah, we were somewhere else before that. The ADD is strong with this group. Very strong.

Yeah. We just broke into Christian.

So Oh, that's right. We were talking about,

We're talking about a wannabe.

And then I It started because of Alan. Alan has a running meme that he chimes in and relates everything to Christian grade school experiences. That's right.

And I I up until now, I

I up until now, I believed every single one of them as if they were absolutely true, having complete faith in Alan that he was just being honest and telling the truth. And now tonight, I

I am being sincere. They are. Okay. Escalated. It's all it's all true. It's absolutely I wanted to make sure. Good. Thank you for clarifying that. Because it can be an ironic, hilarious meme and still be 100% true, but that's rare. That's that's my personality, though, is

Yeah. Sincere and, like, straight I could tell. Yeah. I mean, I I would have been surprised if you said, yeah. I was making half of it because I think it would be the way I read you, it seems like it would be a lot of effort to try and fab it up. Like, you're referencing something that's very near and dear and true, and so to Spin that into your yarn is work. It's work it. I I I can't tell lies. If if I start lying, you guys would know immediately.

I'm I just I'm not a I can't do it.

Oh, I believe you. I believe you. I know I know I I admire people in that position. I don't tell lies for the opposite reason because I could lying right now, and everyone will believe me. And if I don't clue everybody in, then I'm just a liar. Yeah. I I completely thrown that out because of my reputation of being,

You know, truth,

teller,

a person of integrity

so that if I did tell a fib

Yeah. Would believe it and defend it. Yep. And and and and defend my reputation. Even if I knew I was lying, I would get in more trouble because I told one lie, and the whole community would defend my honor Yeah. And tell everybody that I spoke the truth

Even if it was a little fib or a stretch of the bed Yeah. Yeah. I I'm I'm further in trouble for doing that. So I had I had to stop. I just Everything. Amen. Hallelujah. Tell him the truth. You don't have to remember what you said, man. That's good. That's right. Yeah.

If you're gonna lie, you better have a good memory.

Oh, yeah. And I I used to tell people that if you lie and you get caught, then you're not lying. You're just acting stupid. You know? Like Like, if you're gonna lie, you don't you don't get caught. That's just acting stupid. That's just that's just ruining your reputation. If you're gonna utilize the horrible evil thing, You have to push it through perfectly and then maintenance it for life. That's a lie. Not not not getting caught and stranger than fiction to you can't make the truth up. The truth is far more bizarre. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Yeah.

That's that's why they have to do so much work on the Internet, especially with groups of guys like us, Or if we all decide to really focus and we're gonna do something effective and thorough and we're all truly honest and don't have any self interest, we're just doing it because it's the right thing to do.

If there's secret or important information that might be revealed in that process, they do deploy all kinds of bullshit to prevent people like us from doing it because The truth is so powerful, and it cannot be

destroyed. It can hardly be hidden.

And they know they know that all you can do is make a lot of smoke and mirrors and bull Shit and offer out free shit or anything to distract, make drama

because they know if we find the truth, we'll just glom onto it, and the truth will will actually hold us back. Like, it will grab grab onto us too. I mean, you know? It's it's the synchromistic

streams. You you can't It is. Up. You can't You can't, artificially

create them. You can only

copy them and mimic them. No. What What happened after I hit you up, man? I ended up the next morning having to go to Starbucks twice in a row, first thing in the morning because I was out for coffee.

And then I, once again, had to go back a third time in the same day.

So that to me and that to me, that's, like, magical completion.

3. You know, I had to go in one day, I had to go honor this

siren 3 times with my money and my presence and show my face. Yes. And it was just like,

And I all I could do is be like, yeah. Duh. Of course. Of course. I jumped in and said, hey. I want this back. I knew more about it. I'm asking actively from I asked Chris too, but I asked him in such a way that it was it made it too powerful of a request, and he's like, bro, don't Don't ask me for a portal into my work or, you know, whatever, something like that. You know? Like

so I just backed off, like, okay. Cool. You know? Because I I just send in DMs every once in a while. Let's be clear exactly what what happened earlier. A few days ago,

I I I I disappeared to go on vacation for the first time And, you know, after quarantine ends. Right? And I was like, I wasn't gonna do it. I wasn't gonna do it in the morning of

they're getting ready to leave. And I'm like, If I don't go now,

it'll probably be the rest of my life before I ever get out of the house type of a situation.

Right. I gotta go. And I'm, like, all along, I'm, like, I'm not going, guys. I got I got projects lined up. I got emails to respond. And then they're, like, you wanna go? I'm, like, I don't really have a reason not to. So I just get in and I go, and I don't tell anybody

until I get there, you know, Until until I'm there. And then I can say, well, I think I'm going camping while I'm already camping.

Nice. That sort of thing.

But then I get back,

and I get back on Twitter. And I'm physically ill because

I avoided Twitter for 2 weeks now, and I'm back on Twitter. But then I get your message, and you're asking me, like, do you have some information about this? I'm like, sure. I can help you out with that.

Yeah. And that's it. And, of course, it was about,

you know, long story short, another longtime mutual friend of mine in Jim's

Kind of, like, stumbled headlong into the

song of the siren slash Jeff Buckley synchronic

stream,

But he's not really in you know, like, he's aware of the conspiracy stuff, but it's not his thing. But he's, like, saying things to Let's be clear. Synchro mysticism,

Conspiracy.

Sometimes they overlap, but they're not

Yeah. They're not they're not one thing by any means. You know? Right. Right. Synchro mysticism,

whatever it means,

there's you know it when you see it. Because once you see it, you can't unsee it, and you see it everywhere. Yeah. Patterns

over and over again. I wanted to make this Real quick point about,

donkey lips from Salute Your Shorts. Remember that guy?

Apparently watch it much, but I remember that name. Right. Right. Right. So the, Nickelodeon

sitcom from 90 1991 to 1992 called Salute Your Shorts about kids It's only 2 years? It seems like that thing was on for a lot longer. Right. Well, they they aired the reruns over and over and over again. Okay. Okay. New episodes

from 1991 to 1992.

There's there's this guy named Eddie Gelfin,

Nicknamed donkey lips. Apparently, he was posting synchronic memes on his Twitter. And, Greg from Hireside Chats was really, like, what? Donkey Lips is a synchro mystic? From Celebrity Flots, which gets us back to Camp on Awana, which gets us back to,

what is that? Baptist Church, Awana? Yeah. Yes. Very good. Baptist Church. That's where I attended Awana, was at the Baptist church. You know? So I I go back to religious ideas all the time because

that's what was Fueling the fervor of the Pentecostal

revival meetings. These

these holy spirit involves synchromistic

Streams that were bringing people together, causing miracles

and calamities and all the sorts of weird mental psychic energy stuff was getting stirred up, And people were getting freaked out,

but they they couldn't avoid it, and they couldn't ignore it anymore.

And this was the time when the spiritism movement

was showing people levitating,

stuff from the tables and

Knocks and weird,

displays.

Wait. What? Doing the same thing in the churches.

Uh-huh. Wait. Where was this transpiring? Because I remember okay. The other show you guys did the other show. The United States and all over the world eventually. You know? 19 09 in Azusa,

California. Azusa Street, California.

You can read the history of the assembly

of God.

Oh, lord. Going back to California.

Mhmm. Right? 1909.

Okay. And their very founders

It was a,

I I can go back to the notes. There's a guy named, one eyed,

a black guy who was blind in one eye

who was on the street,

And they were gathering together, and there was no difference between that and spiritism. So people were going

because they were like, oh, this is just like a spiritism flavored thing. Right? So they wanted to see a circus sideshow.

Oh. And these

these men

of God

decided that they needed to

Form a covenant, a union of something to sort of officialize it, and that's kind of what got them started.

Yeah. I just read this book about it, and it's amazing.

I'm gonna ask you. It's really insightful and amazing. It's called Orthodoxy and the religion of the future. And he talks about aliens and UFOs, but he really has a huge focus on the spiritism movement and how it lapse of Pentecostalism

and speaking in tongues and holy laughter

and healing,

and all that stuff, and it's, it's really insightful. It's hard to read you're not an Orthodox Christian somewhat because they of course, like any good, Christian,

sect, they throw everyone else under the bus and say, you know, you guys are all miss Sled and going to hell. Yeah. But we got it right, and that's why we're gonna survive the apocalypse and you won't, you know, which is disappointing to me because I thought the Orthodox church might, You know, I you can't really categorize the whole Orthodox church according to this book. But this sect, you know, the people that are from Mount Hermon, Alaska, or whatever, I mean, it's really well written and good. So, I mean, I I couldn't it's a synchronicity thing to me for you to suddenly start talking about where spiritism and Pentecostalism

over wrap, and I just finished This book, when I just got done with my vacation that I just went on a week a half ago, 2 weeks ago too.

And also that back to,

the siren saga again because who is

Elizabeth Fraser and who has said she sounds like she's singing

Glossolalia.

Yeah.

That's I mean, to me, it's a if you've seen it or been witness to it even on video

and you listen to her music and say that you don't see the similarity, then I'm accusing you of being dishonest or thick. There's there's only really 2 options there.

And especially when you know that she,

says that, yeah, sometimes something else is inspiring and moving through me, and it's not really me, which is the same report from the meetings. You know? Yeah. But I mean, any of us any of us as as musicians, we've gotten into flow and that that happens. Like, Yeah. Charles Mingus I agree. I agree. And Thelonious Monk used to say the same thing that it just flows, and it's Yeah. I'm not a degree to me. It's happened to me. I've had whole songs just come to me, I mean, complete. And, I mean, the best songs I've ever written have come to me complete. Like, like, like, I started to write lyrics, and all of a sudden I'm done. And I'm dumbfounded at the lyrics. And then all of a sudden, I've got

the most complicated chord changes I've ever written in my life done. And now I'm practicing the sing the complete song and, like, what usually would take me months to hammer out with my initiative and my efforts instead is just, now here it is. Here's a it's a song I wrote, Quote, unquote. Yeah. So Yeah.

But I'd say with her that there's a, like, a ratcheted up level or something even more that makes it more kind of

Obvious or intense or something. You know? Like, listening to her sing, I can't do it. I've gone over and over again, especially since Chris, You know, really started bringing it out in 2017 or whatever. I've gone back a few times and tried.

Like, I can't I can't hang. I cannot listen to it. I can't listen to talk to those At all? Yeah. I can't. It's just, I can't I don't have it. I don't have it in me to listen to it. It gives me the chills. And I listen to dream pop weird stuff too. Like, And I almost consider, like like, heavier Dream Pop stuff, like, where it's almost like,

like, I consider torch demand torch to be or floor from Florida.

They're, like, really dreamy, but

tuned down to, like, f. You know what I mean? Or b

Or even drop a. Like, it's so heavy, and it's got that it's elegant. It it sounds so good, though. Right? Like, drop a is awesome when you get it right. You know? Speaking of aluminum necks, you know And you don't have your strings are going out because it's so sloppy and it's Exactly.

It holds its It holds since I mean, it holds its you know, it holds,

because those those next You have to set it up that way. Yeah. Exactly. I mean Yeah. Yeah. But, anyway, like, they

Torch, t o r c h e. They're crazy. I've seen them a 1000000 times. They're really, really great live,

But check them out. They're they've got, like,

this tripped out dreamy,

heavy sound that is just like, wow. It it there's there's soup. They're super good. I think you guys would really, really appreciate it. I I think Chris I've turned Chris onto them. I'm pretty sure he's familiar with them as well.

Yeah. They're from they're really, really good. They're from Florida. The Steve Brooks' first band, Floor, f l o o r,

That is actually a little bit,

structured. Very simple song structure, but just

What's another band I was oh, I was just listening to that kind of sound has that same kind of sound. I think it would be like,

Dead now this band called Dead now, which is Andrew Elsner. He's in Riddle of Steel,

and I admire

I admire your ability to continue to voraciously,

take on new music, and because you're always just talking about new music. You have, like, this Completely encyclopedic

knowledge of music that I I never know anything about because, like, I quit looking for new music after I found John Frusciante.

I just listened to John Fuschini and Elliott Smith. And, you know, I did. I to Figure 8,

like, couple days ago. I was like, I haven't listened to this. It's one of those underrated Elliott Smith records in my It really is. And and, dude, the lyrics, you know, Son of Sam, like, oh, just junk on Trader. There's so many great songs off of that record. Yeah. And it's so underrated. People don't give it. Same with From Basement on a Hill. Like, that record, man. Yeah. Like, it just doesn't it was or,

you know, or what I was like, dude, that's a good record, but come on.

Like sorry.

Alright. No. So I warn people that it's dangerous. Like, if you're not into Elliott Smith and you do have a tendency to become depressed, then you probably shouldn't listen to Elliot Smith because it's a safe place to be depressed for the rest of your life and maybe even get on hard drugs and or kill yourself if you're careful. So For sure. But, I mean, don't you just The the dream is so more more and beautiful. Figure 8 isn't like that, though. No. I know. It's like a Rock and Roll record. More upbeat. Yeah. It's got, like, a showtunes y, almost, kinda sound to it too. It's it's really it's weird. It's beautiful. I'd say it's the most affirmative positive record by far, in my opinion. Definitely. And then to know he was so close with Kenneth Hanger, when you find out that Rita, all that stuff I didn't even know that. Wow. Yep. Tell me more. So tight, dude, That literally the day before he killed himself,

they was, like, one of the last phone calls he made was to Kenneth Anger,

and they used to go together to the Rose Parade because that was, like, not not only did he write Rose Parade, the song, you know, Elliot Smith, but he literally made that a point every year to go to the Pasadena Rose Parade And just sit there and just get hammered and watch the people walk by.

And Kenneth Anger would join him,

apparently, on these.

And he he was essentially

Elliott Smith credits him of keeping him alive, actually,

kind of thing or, like, You know, talking about that. That doesn't surprise me at all. But Right. Isn't that it's a strange, strange little connection. Then and then there's another weird Little sync because,

I just was Redfang put out a new record,

called Arrows. They're from Portland. They're fantastic. They're on relapse.

And they I saw who they were touring with, and their touring with Starcrawler

is opening for them. And Starcrawler Love that band, dude. They're crazy. And they're kids. Right? And the daughter Yeah. They're kids. The the girl the front the the the The front girl front woman? Yeah. I mean, she's a girl.

She is the daughter Get it right, Barsky. The front they. The front there. Yeah. My bad.

She,

her mother is the what's her the photographer's name? Gordon, I know you know. She's one of the most famous photographers.

She she shot all of Elliot Smith's record cover. She shot figure 8 record cover. You know her. You we know her. Yeah.

I can't think of her name. One of those I'll I'll pull it up.

Yeah. Arrow is her mother. Right? Like, her dad is somebody

Big 2, I think, in the Yeah. Isn't he? Is when I hear a funny story about Redfang

I love Redfang. Yes. Please. So,

Redfang. I I fell in love with them for a little while. I haven't gone back and listened to them for a long time, but they came to Walla Walla and performed. And my good friend that I keep mentioning, innate,

was the the back of house,

audio, everything. You know? It it was his job to run the mixing board and get the band set up and everything. Like,

And,

this is before I had retired permanently from drinking alcohol. And, I was standing in front of the stage, like, really close to these guys, And it just sounded it sounded shitty because it wasn't mixed right. And now in my and in my drunken aggression to try and help the sand man sound man out because they had their own sound, man. So my buddy was up there standing to the board, but he's not mixing the show because it's fucking Redfang, and he doesn't need to mix the show. Their own guy is gonna do it. You know? And so I went up there, you know, barging into the booth, not thinking about the fact that it they have their own sound man and was insisting to try and help them improve the sound, and the guy literally

grabbed me by the neck in, like, my belt loop and almost threw me down a flight of stairs. Like, somebody get this guy the Fuck out of my boat. You know? And I felt so bad. I actually sent him an email, and I missed the rest of the show because I was so embarrassed and humiliated myself by being a drunken asshole. But that was my experience. You know? It sounded so bad. I felt so bad for the band because you couldn't hear the lead vocal. I was standing, like, I could've touched the guy. Right. Right. Hear it. And the mic wasn't off. It just wasn't okay. Wait. But they were right up against the brick wall. Was this, like, was this murder of the mountains time? Or That would probably the second record test is 20 Probably 3 or 4 years ago. Oh, so this would be, like, what's it called? Or this would be, like,

Whales and Leaches? 2015 or 2016, maybe. It might have been that long. Yeah. So that that okay. So that the new record, by the way, is fantastic. It's really, really I have to add it to my my, I I because of guys like you, but a lot of stuff has been added to my, Amazon Music.

Amazon tricked me into paying for their shitty music service, you know, but it works. It's okay. You know?

I love, I love, app. Like the Apple Music the best. It with the loss list now, LinkedIn. Everything is just it's beautiful.

But Autumn De Wilde is the, photographer.

Alright.

Shot yeah. Film director. She, directed the That's it. Feature film. Emma,

she shot

Let's see.

Oh, and her dad is Jared Wilde, who was the photographer and is famous for shooting the Monterey Pop Festival, Jimmy Hendrix. That's it. But she shot the record covers for,

Fiona Apple, Rakentures,

White Stripes, Built to Spill, Wilco,

Newfound Glory. Spoon. I know. Brit. Yeah. That's that's a lot of badass shit. Yeah. Yeah. It was in 2016. I just looked it up to be sure. That's when the the show was.

They played Walla Walla? Yeah. That is awesome. Yeah. Dude, that is awesome. That that same lady brought, brought Cavalera conspiracy. No. No. They weren't going under Cavalera conspiracy. They were going under,

was it kill or be killed? No. No. It was,

not not Sepultura, but

Soulfly. It was Yeah. It was Soulfly. Gross. And then it was funny because Igor needed socks, so I went and picked those guys up from the hotel. He's a sweetheart. Igor Yeah. Yes. He's awesome. And this is the reason why I I dropped him off at the venue, and then I ran and bought Igor's socks, like, at the local Buy Mart or whatever and brought him to him. And to me, that's over to my claims of fame. You know, I brought brought,

Soulfly's bass player some socks when he needed some. I got a nice picture of him with his girlfriend in the outside the back of the venue. But

Nice, dude. Like Max just seemed exhausted, so we didn't even mess with him. Like, we could've tried to walk up and get an autograph, but he just like, he rocked.

It might be the last time I ever mosh in my life because there was a tiny venue. It's not okay to ask for autographs. I'm sorry. I'm one of People I never do that. I'll shake your hand and say hi and say I appreciate you. Doing your stuff wrong, dude. Get out of here. Your autograph. I just wanna say it to thing. You know? Like I didn't do that even.

And Max is like, Igor is one of the the sweetest guys because I remember hey. Well, whatever. I'm not even gonna get into it. No. I'm talking about Igor Junior. I'm talking about Max's Son Igor, not Igor. Oh, I thought you're not drummer No. No. I'd I'd have been too starstruck to run and get Igor the drummer socks. I don't know. I'd have been, like, he's got some more people.

He's so His son's telecool. He was playing bass for him.

That's crazy. I didn't know that. Do I like Killer Be Killed. I've I've that's, like, that supergroup with the dude, Ben from Dillinger Escape Plan.

Max is in it.

Ben Koehler from Converge.

Dude, Ben is amazing. One of the best Yeah. I never even heard of that once again. And Troy from Mastodon? Sing he's in it as well. Yeah. They're they're really, really good.

I'm trying to link up this Discord so I can get get it to you guys in the chat. Just

Heads up. We've been begging for Barsky to be here this whole time to get done with his sports game and come check us out.

And he shows up, and all we do is talk inside baseball about music. And probably everyone's sitting here going, this is stupid and it sucks, and we hate it. You know? Alright. Yeah. Let's let's let's That's usually my job, though.

Like, who's Okay. Who play who used to play with Frank Zappa at some point?

Steve Vai. You know, always

Nice. Yes. Steve Vai for the call. It's either Steve Vai or,

Terry Bosio. The the right. Terry Bosio. Terry Bosio or,

Vinny Calcutta. Vinny Calcutta Yeah. Vinny Calcutta. Everybody, and everybody played with him. So everybody plays

connected to Zappa Zappa. It always works. I was trying to come up with at least one more name, but I'm I'm slipping right now. There's that black guy that did the awesome, in down in France song. Yeah. I can't think of his name, though. Why can't I?

I can't think of his name. Oh.

Jim, remember when, when when where Jim and I, worked together where Jim was the greatest manager I have ever or will ever worked under, period. End of sentence.

We used to fight for the aux cord, essentially. You know, it was really the Bluetooth, but we would you know, there would be someone would take it, and there was 2 guys that wanted to put on,

Like rap battles. And I mean, like, these stupid, like, scientific rap battles and or parody rap. And they would play that stuff relentlessly, not like a few songs as a joke, But they would play parody rap and these terrible rap battles. And then so someone else would get it, and they would put on, like, heavy metal or they would put on, like, DMX

And all this nineties straight, like, testosterone

crack cocaine wrap. RIP deal. RIP deal looks, by the way. Yeah. And so then I would find get the aux, and I would just put on Frank Zappa just as sheer revenge. And I would let I would let Zappa roll for 3 hours and be like, you guys, this is what we're dealing with. And finally, one guy, got sick of all of it. And every time he would get the aux, he would put on, like, sweeping strings in you with whale noises.

And it it just so it became like

and that actually chilled everybody out, which is the funniest thing. Like, as much as that was supposed to be, like, the one upsmanship to the max, It works. I mean, it's like new agey sweepy strings, and we're just all, like, oh, and we're doing our jobs. I was like, this is so

relaxing. You know?

And then the female manager that Jim had helped him for a while would get the aux, and we'd all have to listen to, like, eighties nineties butt rock ballads from female singers. And

It was it was intense, Jim.

Did you guys work at a music store or something?

No. No.

We worked in production of fine art just like Jim's Still doing

now.

Jim just runs an awesome shop, man. Working for Jim Maiden is the greatest decision you can make in your life. Nothing will improve your life more than go to work

Gym maiden. It looks cool. Like, I wanna learn foundry stuff, man. I wanna work learn And don't be fooled. It's not easy work. I mean, there's days where you can Slack and it's and it's easy. And then those days where, like, you're doing 16 hours and you know that you just failed and that you might get fired. Like, you might lawyers might be called. You just gotta go back the next day and keep trying and hope that it works out. You know?

Not too often.

Really. Yeah. Yeah. But for any production job, man, that I look at anyone in production of anything, and I think I have respect for you, and that's because I work for Jim. And if you it's bad enough to just have to produce widgets or bolts or nuts or big pieces of Specific shapes of metal. But if you guys have produced fine art, god bless you. It's Yeah. It's you can't screw it up. If you do

The the level of of weight and disappointment that comes down across whole swaths of people, like, you know, from the

Affluent people that want the art, to the people that made it and promised it to them, to the people that are making it, to the people that are supplying the things to make it, it's just this, like, It could paralyze you, man.

I bet. Jim deals with with most of it cool as a cucumber. I've only seen him slip and get pissed Maybe twice in all the times I've known him, like, goddamn it. And then immediately go outside and be like, it's cool, you guys. It's cool.

Even though it's the most stressful thing you could imagine. Like, here's something made out of wax, and it's kind of hot and melted. Fix it so that it can go on a truck in 10 minutes. And, you know, Jim's standing there going, okay. I can do that, but you can't also ask me to answer a phone call or text message or do anything else.

So Can we get any to get Discord calls, do we need to boost the channel? Does it need to be boosted,

the this the server

To take phone calls?

I I never I don't think we ever successfully used Discord when we were doing it, so I have no idea. Okay.

If anybody in the chat knows, let us know.

Because we have We got Skype to work with the Skype number, and that worked okay, But it didn't work consistently. Like, it would give us hell.

Okay. Because I've got we've got a

Are you talking about right now? Yeah.

Hey,

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.

Let's see.

Is there someone who wants to call in and not go on video chat? Doesn't wanna join the Zoom call. No. I'm not we're not not handing out the Zoom link like that. But I was gonna say

Or you just want a random call in number? Well, yeah, I want I've had that set up before, but I don't have the board here right now. So to do that for the Google Voice, So that kinda sucks, but whatever. Either way. We'll have to do it another time then, I guess. Yeah. We'll figure it out. I'll get it figured out. Yeah. I wanted to apologize to you guys not being able to make it on here sooner just because things just didn't you know, this is just when the

the the secret key went into the secret lock, And I'm very pleased and happy to be here and wanted to be here much earlier than I did arrive.

And I also wanted to specifically thank, David Barsky for being

Relentless yet kind in, like did did you guys wanna actually still make a show or not? Like, which one of you? And I remember, like, this is, like, probably 3 years ago. Like, Ask Jim. I cannot do it. Yeah. Yeah. I cannot do it. There was just no way I could do it. If I went if I kept going on the air, it was just soul killing still at the time, but I'm getting away from that And back to being able to be, you know, present in this shit. And it feels good. I love it. You know? It's awesome too because, like, I remember spinning wheels. Like, I was, like, going through like, Well, I've gotta because I'm gonna do this. Like, I've gotta been like, it just worked out perfect. You know what I mean? It just did. It did. It came together. I was so glad to see it work.

Like, 1st,

after picture show, there's a really great guy who goes by Miras, and he put on,

We called the people show on, he'd he'd do it live in the Discord, and then he'd publish it in on his bit shoot. I think it all got knocked down now too because of all the nonsense going on. But, between that and you guys actually pulling, weaving spiders out, it was like I felt relieved

because I couldn't do it. I just couldn't care carry on at that point in time. And so I really Appreciate people doing it because it's hard when someone who is stapled in the middle of it like I was is, like, nope. Not me. You know? And really not very communicative even. Like, nope. Not me and no reason why either. I'm not telling you anything. Just leave me alone. You know? But I I appreciate you guys busting it out because it's great shit, man. This is I I'm gonna continue to try to log on and listen to the show when I'm not on it even if I perpetually get interrupted by things like goats and technical interference and Overflowing washing machines or whatever else it might be. I don't care. I'm gonna continue to watch Weaving Spider's Welcome.

We appreciate that more than we know, brother.

Well, the I watched the reruns. It's just not the same. You guys know how it is. I I throw the reruns on and put them on 1.5 speed if you guys aren't, talking too fast. I talk really slow on purpose. Yeah. Alan, you talk slow. ASMR. He's got that going.

That's always fun.

I made one ASMR video of me driving through the the Walla Walla Wheatfields.

Tell us about the Wallowa Leaf Fields. What's up with the Wallowa Leaf? Well, it looks just like the old Windows,

operating system

Screen saver? Or not screen saver, the wallpaper? I mean, like, Walla Walla, when it's time to

not harvest wheat, but when the wheat is growing up in green,

Like, they may have actually taken the picture somewhere in the Walla Walla Valley of that classic Windows

what is it? It wasn't Windows 95, was it? 19. Yeah.

You know? And so I p. It's p. Yeah. I was I was I won't lie. I was pretty stoned on edibles

in my truck,

And, I noticed how beautiful it looked. And I had my camera already kinda set up, so it was pointing forward out my window. And so I was like, cool. I'm gonna do something different.

And so I went and,

I didn't go live, but I recorded footage and I drove through. And I'm like, hello, everyone.

Follow me now

as we move into a beautiful day

in the Walla Walla Valley touring along the side of this vineyard that's gonna tune Turn into the most beautiful of sweeping green fields of wheat with white fluffy clouds, and I just drove through the you know, it's just the back road. It's a it's a farm truck road. It's where you harvest the wheat. And so it's all swoopy and slow oxbow turns and, you know, I did it for 5 or 6 minutes, and when I ran out of it, feel those like cool. But that's my only ASMR video I ever did.

It got some it it works because I titled it ASMR, and a few people found it and chimed in like, this is beautiful. You know?

But alright.

I don't know how many I'd have to make before I could get some ad revenue, but I know that my voice wouldn't be able to maintain that that,

because it wasn't fake. You know? I was enjoying myself. I was baked.

I didn't have anything else to do. See, I don't I don't know if I could resist not putting a zombie at the end of that. Like, Suck them in really hard.

I've got the footage. Maybe when it gets reuploaded, that might be in there. We can fix that. We can fix that.

I mean, what really happened was I was talking to someone on the telephone, and because there's such bad service in the Walla Walla Valley that I was driving and I got disconnected.

And so my ADD said, well, obviously, you should make your first ASMR video right here in this week. So This is the next step if you can't get the person back on the line. Right.

And then when you're done, you'll be on the other side of the field and you'll have service again, and you could try to call them back.

It worked. I think I got a hold of him. I don't remember who it was. Might have been Jim.

Hey. You could just team up with Alan and just make a a whole a m s ASMR

There you go. We could make a channel. We really could. Here's how this happens.

It it I can't. I speak slowly and softly so people fall asleep, And then Sean can wake him up with his morning radio voice. Yes. That's it. That was, you know, my my, my grandfather that I've never met on my father's side Owned the largest AM radio station in the Sacramento Valley. And when I was a kid, the two choices of career that I thought I was Gonna pursue were either,

stuntman because I love Colt Sievers and the fall guy.

And, and, you know, Lee Majors being a stuntman slash bounty hunter was the coolest ever. You know, if you've never seen that old TV show, it's definitely worth catching at least the pilot. And, the other thing obviously was to become a radio disc jockey. And I had no idea as a child that this was, like, Epigenetic, probably. Like, you know, like like, there was so much radio and media, and and I never met these people. But it was just in my blood that I wanted to be a Stuck in. I even succeeded very slightly at it. I was live on the air on a Pendleton, radio station.

Not not really talking on the mic, but I was in charge of running the clock to make sure, you know, everything got plugged in and the buttons pushed at the right time. And I did have to talk. Every once in a while, I have to do the station bumper, you know, live. And so that was my radio career, but

So yeah. But I I I was thinking the exact same thing you said, Alan. Like, you could have your very Alanesque,

quiet, soft, And we could do this tension release thing on people, and they'd probably love it. And we'd feel bad maybe, but we they'd love it because you'd have them so close to, like, oh, I'm in that place and Boom. Here comes up and knock them down. Here comes SB with some stupid ass shit.

I interned I was working at a sports radio station,

for Internet

1250

here or up in Milwaukee. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Back in the early 2000 for a little bit there. That was Internet 1250 is a hell of a name for a station. No. No. No. Sports Studio 12. Okay. It was, a it was the Fox Sports affiliate for a while, and it's still going strong.

Now that's funny because that's part of what I was doing. I had to do 2 there was 2, technically, 2 different stations I had to run the clock on. 1 was the to make sure the country and western songs were playing, and the other one was to run over to the AM station and make sure the sports plugged in. And that was the one where I had to say, you know, whatever it was. You know? AM 1675. You know? And that was it.

Yeah. The it was fun, man. Intern over there, and then I ended up with, because I I got to skip,

going to the The classes that I needed to go to at the the the technical college down here. Yeah. Yeah.

And then I ended up my the director of the,

At at the school, the the AV director blah blah blah, whatever. He was the director of the AV and the the broadcasting.

He

He shot me down even when the program director was like, nope. Dave's perfect. Blah blah blah. It's like it's hilarious. I I called in actually yesterday, I think. I call it, like, once a year. It's a bad Yeah. Give them hell. But yeah. And, like, they still, like, a because I lived in Alabama for a while, and I remember Not they didn't have, like, a livestream back then. It was, like, 06 when I had to move when we I lived in Alabama.

And,

we were trying to listen to me, like, Calling the program and, like, Chip, you guys gotta get a live stream on. You know? I'm stuck down here in Alabama, and I can't listen. I'm dying. You know what I mean? Like, they're talking about golf,

you know, in Birmingham, like, in Birmingham, so this is awful. In college, you know, roll tide, wore eagle nuts. It's like, I can't handle this. And then they got it up, and then remember getting back, and, they just started deeming me Alabama Dave. So they said call so they're, like so anytime I call, I was, like, yeah, it's it's Alabama Dave. Alabama Dave. Yeah. Bama?

So it's like so you called me Bama. It's all Great.

Great. What were you saying, before about, like, it being epigenetic

in the genetics or the,

the Well, I mean, I have this theory that my my desire to be involved in media

stems directly from my grandfather that I never met.

And he's a totally free masonic mystery. I mean, like, I found I have letters in my possession and photography and things that make it very obvious Well, that there's no actual evidence of, like, hey. Here's his free masonic stuff. But there's, like, an invite for everyone to come to the poker gambling camping event, and it's completely,

like,

over ironically encoded

Like, a masonic letter. I mean, it's got all these

initials and dashes and things in quotes and code words. I mean, you know, even before I really studied this shit, I already knew, like, this is This is nonsense. This means something, and it does not mean what it means at all. You know? So it was

it was his invite to everyone in the family. So all of the women and children would read it and be like, okay. Grandpa's kinda crazy, but we're going camping. And all of his brothers would be like, okay. Here's the things I need to bring. Here's what's really happening because they could see it. You know? Like, maybe someday when I get through all my storage stuff, we'll have a whole episode just trying to decode my because he I mean, he he's he was exceedingly wealthy to the point where Years after he'd been dead, we found

12 or

$15,000 in an account in the state of California that it took a whole bunch of lawyering up to get out of there because it just defaulted in, you know like, most people get $35 or $350.

Even my dad, I ended up with, like, $35100

that I was able to get out of the state of California because,

You know, accounts closed or pills bills got turned back that didn't get paid, and the money got trapped somewhere. But grandpa, we found at least one account that was, you know, almost $20.

And I guarantee that I I sometimes I'm tempted to if I had money, I'd hire real investigators that are in this niche and be like, go look, fool, because who knows? There might be a gold mine or real estate in toi

Taiwan. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he had shit everywhere. He used to be for sure.

And and so I've always

thought, like well, I've always my whole life, I've had this, so, like, you know, my dad's side of the family was really rich. My father,

This grandfather that I'm talking about insisted that my mother have an abortion, and my mother refused. And so my father,

chickened out and, like, Evaporated from my life before I was born. And I, like, saw him one time when I was 4, and then I got to know him from the time I was 13 till about the time I was 24, and then he passed away of a brain aneurysm Inside of a narcotics anonymous meeting. And so we kinda got to have a friendship,

you know, but so my dad's side was this really rich, alcoholic, drug addicted, dysfunctional family, functional family, most of them. And then my mom's side is real poor, but really hearty, salt to the earth, you know, honest for the most part. You know, some of them are a little spun out and weirdos, but the most part, you know, mom's side of the family is just really poor people and a lot of dysfunction and weirdness, but not weird rich people. I've always felt like this divided person, you know, like, and I for my whole life, I always kind of leaned towards mom's side and despise and didn't care about dad's side. But as I got older, I I learned to embrace both sides. Like, hey. This you know you know, my dad's side of the family is in here, and it it makes a lot more sense to look at it that way instead of Try to reject it or minimize it. You know, I've got all this kind of

manipulative,

conniving,

Over the top energy, and I really you know, I don't have any way to prove it, but I give that credit to a lot of it to my dad's side of the family that that's what they were. They were Ruthless business people, you know, they they were just

in that in that vibe. I met enough of them to know that it wasn't not my imagination or me speculating. They

They were uncanny people. My aunt who's, deceased now told me that when she quit drinking, she went back to the bar that she used to drink in. And, the man who owned the bar told her that by not rolling dice in his bar,

that it was saving him $700 a week because she was winning $700

worth of drinks

in a week,

you know, in some high end bar in San Francisco way back. I'm sure this is in the seventies. She told me, and I quote, well, I I was pretty good at dice.

And I was like, well, what does that mean, you're good at dice? How do you Please, you know, clue me in. Is there a chance that I can be good at dice? Because that would be nice if there was some way to in die you know, influence the dice.

Right. You know? Unweighted

Sunway to die. Is there a is there a I don't think she was cheating. No. I think she's just magic. She just had, you know what she had was an overwhelming,

desire to continue to drink, and I'm sure that just influenced the dice to constantly come up lucky. And I'm naturally lucky. I can play the shit out of a poker game and make everybody go broke. They wanna kill me.

Well, I just fast as you know that's a little different. It is different because I studied my ass off in poker, but I still have tremendous luck on top of my education. I feel you. I feel you with that. Definitely.

There's times that I've had to been told that I won when I was pushing my chips away. And they're like, no. You won. Like, no. I didn't. Like, yeah. You hit street on the river, like, oh, no. Okay. Sorry, guys. You didn't even bother looking. Yeah. I know exactly what I mean. That's having yep. I've turned my cards up a lot of times just assuming that I've lost. Yeah. That's a brilliant strategy in poker if you play for money. Don't throw your cards away. Just turn them upside down and just sit there. The dealer might look and go, oh, you won. You because you you've especially if you sit there for 5 hours, you can't see the cards anymore. You can't really read the hands effectively. You know? Yep.

It's a old trick. Just turn your cards up and see what happens.

You make people very unhappy with you. Very angry. Yeah. You will get people really pissed off. Violent. People will become violent. Yes. Yeah. Absolutely.

After it's the 3rd or 4th time, they'll threaten you. Causation or correlation or what's what's Come undone at this point where you're playing with cards, whether they're tarot or

otherwise? Have you had this situation where you've shuffled the tarot deck and,

I've had this with tarot every time, and I've actually because I keep it with a I journal anytime. I write down every single time I Any draw any tarot. Greg can attest to this because Yeah. And, Jim, you know, like, dude, it's been and,

Krista, you know,

in the chat, you know, we've had crazy

Situations where we've we're literally up hours and out. It was, like, till 5 o'clock in the morning talking about it. Like, are you kidding me? Is this legit? No. Did you see that that dropped out? This like, taking photos of it to prove it. Like, dude, no. This is what just came up. Well, I I bought a new tarot deck. The only one that I've really ever started to use consistently. That's not a stupid, app on my phone. I do that sometimes, but I don't give it much weight or credence. You know, it still works, but it's not the same. So I bought oh, it's right here. I'll show you. So I bought this,

this beautiful Salvador Dali tarot deck. Oh, nice. And the last time I decided some all I've done so far is to take One card at a time because I'm in the process. I'm gonna I'm gonna make a trade with a friend of mine, and I'm gonna help her learn, things about the ukulele,

And she's gonna teach me. She's, she's she's from Eastern Europe, and she's,

she she's been reading tarot for a long time. So we're gonna trade, you know. We might do it live as, like, a dual instructional. Like, here's how to learn ukulele and learn tarot all at the same time. We don't know yet. We might do that. But, the reason I just brought it up right now is because I, reached into the deck, and inside, it's got a beautiful gold box. So here's the big book. Right? Big beautiful book. But look at that box, gold box. See how shiny it had 2 swords on it? No. It's cool. So I just snuck inside the box and pulled one card out. Like, I didn't even open the box away. I'm just getting one card. I'm doing my draw. I get it out, and I'm like, okay. It was the,

the the knight of swords. And so I'm like, alright. So I set the box down on my chair like this, And I go like this, and it's open to knight of swords. Like

Yeah. Like, it's just open to knight of swords. Like, I draw the card by really carefully finagling it out of the box. I opened the book with no thumbing the page at all. I just opened it, and it's on knight of swords. And, of course, it's the most insightful thing that could possibly be On the page, it's absolutely

you know, it was pretty much talking about me getting ready to do stuff, like, get back into doing this show and other things where I'm gonna be, you know, like, oh, Your creative energy is back, and you're getting ready to blow shit up. So go. Like, thank you. Okay.

I'll do it.

Right? Yeah. I've had I stick with the toss-up deck, but sorry. Go ahead.

Yeah. I was just gonna say I don't even I don't even do

divination

With tarot, I can't because it it's

I don't even need to. I'll shuffle them and not even try to

Do anything with it. Just shuffle them. The cards will

out of the deck,

land, and then it it'll just there it is. Like, it's like a It's like a thermometer or barometric pressure. It's like I'm just what's going on? Yep. And I used to I I was really scared of taro for a long time because I didn't Fully understand

the difference. You know? I thought people were only always trying to selfishly divine the future, which isn't true. That's just a misnomer about tarot in general. There are don't get me wrong. Of course, there's plenty of people doing that. Right? They're they're really nervously and anxiously trying to figure out what's gonna happen next, which is foolish, But in my opinion but, the very first time, I ever touched a tarot deck, some weird old witch that I'd never met before with no teeth who was literally like Cooking chicken bones on a hot plate inside of a hotel room said, okay. We'll just shuffle the deck. And I grabbed the deck, and I tried to start shuffling it like you were describing, Alan, this way. And the the top and bottom card fell off. The rest of the deck fell into the bed, and then she read those 2 cards. And I never wanted to to do anything with tarot again for 20 years. Right. Right. It scared me really bad. Wait. So what happened again? Say that again. I'm sorry. No. The the most screwed up thing is that, I was so freaked out by it. And she said, okay. Well, just try again, but just draw 2 cards, and I drew the same fucking 2 cards. Wait. Identical 2 cards. So here's what I'll do. Right? I'll take the deck.

This is kinda how you shuffle it. Right? Yeah. Just

not thinking about the cards, not looking at them, just out of memory, muscle memory from knowing how to do it. I have a smaller

this goes back to the guitar story you asked because I have to, like, fit my fingers around the thread to Get the chords. That was kinda the problem because my fingers are kinda kinda dainty fingers. So I get a I have a smaller deck that I use for tarot, and I

It's just there. It's like, what am I doing? I'm clearing my mind. I'm shuffling, and I'll do this where I'm, like,

just Pulling them apart. This is just a new set of cards. But then they'll just they'll not go back in and cards will just fall, and they'll start moving on their own. I use it as a way to like, a barometric pressure. Like, what is going on? Like, see this just flipped out. So I'll put it over there, and I'll do this. And then before I'm known, I'll have, like, 4 cards

Face down. I'll flip them over, and there'll be 4 aces in a row. I'll be like, I didn't do that. Right. I wasn't intending to do that. That wasn't

my wanting to read. It was that Can I ask you guys? Has have you guys also observed or read? Because,

Like, when you're when I'm reading about tarot or studying,

anything about that divination,

it seems to be, like, use your left hand

To

do most of the like, to do the draw. If you're gonna you or use

designate one hand to do the draw.

Right? And the you know what I'm saying? I don't know if if you guys have heard this as well. I

for me, personally, it's left hand. Always

Stick with one hand the whole time. I don't know if that has Yeah. I've never heard anybody. So I do it naturally because I'm left handed, and I I do I don't wanna touch the deck with both hands. I don't know why. But

I mean, it's it's not now you can touch with both hands. It's just a matter of you use one one hand basically to

To serve, you know, to deal. To see exactly. Exactly. Like and all make sure that and I for some reason, like, it's just now ingrained in me to only

Use my left hand to draw

to you know, and and or as my primary

shuffle. You know what I mean? Right handed?

I'm right handed. Yeah. I'm actually ambidextrous. I'm ambidextrous, but Holding them in your right hand and then you Right.

Or yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Like that. Yeah.

Yep.

It's interesting, Marni. Can you play play right handed then?

Say that again.

If you're ambidextrous, do you play Right handed

or left handed? Guitar?

I started playing right handed, actually, and then switched to left handed, and I had to learn Left handed. Not really. Oh, no. No. I started left handed

and then switched to right handed.

And skateboarding, I started out

Very goofy footed. Regular footed, and now I'm goofy footed properly. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. I got I got some of that going on. Like, I'll I'll hold a rifle one way and a bow and an arrow another. And, I intentionally tried to do both left and right handed guitar stuff just because of Jimmy Hendrix. You know, like, I in I strung my guitar upside down on purpose. I'm left handed, but my mother met a brilliant man when I was, you know, like, in junior high, and she bought me my very first acoustic guitar. The guy told her, Just have him learn right handed. He doesn't know anything yet. And that way, he won't have the trouble of having a left handed guitar. He won't have the weirdness of having to look at a mirrored image of trying to learn from someone because it is really weird if you sit and watch someone left handed and try to, you know, like, okay. I do know what that is, but it doesn't look right, you know, because it's it's backwards. It's it's inverse.

And I've and I taught I taught myself too, like, when I played baseball and basketball, those are my 2 sports.

But pitching, like, I taught my I forced myself to throw left handed for a while, and then I got good enough to where I can actually, like, throw a football left handed and throw And actually hit the target, not throw like a girl. You know what I mean? Or No. Yeah. Yeah. I've done that a little bit with the football too. But Yeah. And then same with, but switch hitting, like, baseball, like, I can switch it. Like, I can it's really weird. Even golf.

That's another one.

Yeah. I played golf. Like, what? I don't know. Whatever. It is what it is. My grandfather was, like, a

semi pro. Like, he played it doesn't really matter. But Yeah. That that's kind of back to the epigenetic idea though. Yeah. You know, that, you know, if your grandfather,

is golfing and it's coming through, it's coming down the line. You know? People People wanna try and account all that shit to something like strict biology when that's just nonsense. No. And all of us that have studied a little bit outside of the typical nonsense,

The world is a physical thing with physical stuff, and if we can count it, it's real. Everyone knows that's nonsense if they just look into it. There's just a lot of people that get paid a lot of money to pretend it's nonsense, they don't openly admit it. They well know. They know in the laboratory that their their laboratory equipment does the same thing our tarot decks do. Exactly. It's like Like, no. You're trying to find this. No. You're trying to find this. You know? Yeah. And it's chalked up to meta pseudoscience garbage. You know what I mean? But it Yeah. It meta fine. That's I don't I'm not offended by the meta

aspect of it because that that is it is a meta aspect. Oh, that's where the information is is in the meta. Exactly. Exactly.

Hey, Gordy. Do you have music online somewhere people can hear?

No. If not, it's okay. I just was curious because now that I know you're a musician, it makes be curious, you know, that that's just a Yeah. No pressure.

No. Maybe I do. I'll send you something afterwards. Cool. Yeah. Cool.

Because I've got ancient stuff up.

Where mine is. Yeah. Everything's old. Yeah. I mean, it's all it's all terrible old demo stuff. You know? It's Just the irony of life that we never actually really effectively published anything even though we recorded 100 of hours of demos and music and gigged and all this shit. We we never made a CD that was, like, Correct. You know?

It's about I mean, I it really I warned my lead guitar player who I'm now no longer really I'm I I don't wanna say we're not friends, but we talk or interact anymore.

I warned him a year ahead of time. Like, we've got a year to get something down on wax, And this is over. I can feel it. And then a year later, we didn't have anything, and it was over. You know? It's like No. That was the worst part is Is people

practicing and not wanting to record or not wanting to play a gig because, oh, it's just too hard because we're too big of a band or whatever.

And we're getting old, and we can't lug our gear around. I'm like,

what are we doing this for then? Yeah. Yeah. No. That's what I I was so mad because we went out like, we had a really good run where we were making money and things in trade by playing all these little awesome kinda

Cult almost cult like following local gigs. We were getting this, like, insider cult following as the RX only panacea.

And,

We had, like, solid sets that we were playing over and over again and we were getting really tight. Like, we could really perform them loose and good.

And when we were done, I insisted, like, come on, you guys. We gotta go in the studio and record it right now. This is what you do. You go out and push and get behind it and get something like a small tour going. You come back when it's completely

in you.

And then you you bust out a bunch of tracks, and you can catch it. You know, you can catch that vibe, the energy. And the the late the main guy just wouldn't do it. He was burnt out. He didn't want it. He wanted to go write new music. He didn't care. He thought all the songs sucked and they were stupid. And he it showed on stage. He would, like, noodle through him, and he just, you know, he lost his love for it. Where to me, I still I still play those songs now. I'll stand here in this room And play through those songs all by myself and keep my parts going. And it's a long, long time ago, but there's they're part of me, man. That was That was the beginning of my whole synchro mystic insanity. We we made up this origin story for our band and it became reality. You know, we we accused all other excellent musicians of having built time machines and traveled back to the dawn of time because we existed before time began, they got close enough to the dawn of time they could hear us, and they took our music back to current times and got rich. And we were pissed, man. Fuck those guys. They ripped us off. John Ricciani ripped me off. So did Frank Zappa and so did fucking George Harrison. They stole my fucking ideas that I was using before time and space existed, and I'm not okay with it, man.

Sounds like a strike. Sounds like a YouTube strike that you need to,

you know, I think.

Yeah.

Yeah. We we became so obsessed and entrenched in John Fuschani's music that I'd say that we were probably a 3 person cult just worshiping him. You know? And it's embarrassing to me to say that. I had to, like, look back and realize it, like, oh, jeez.

Like, it like, you listen to our music and it's like, oh, this isn't like us Copying or honoring him. Like, we we somehow bootlegged your your spirit vibe. You know? We we got we figured out what you were doing, and we took of the you know, we took some of your market share.

It's weird.

I miss it.

Yeah. I'm sorry. So so tonight, we first time in a long time, I jammed with 2 guys, and it was just phenomenal. My voice is that's why my voice is tired because I was screaming and singing loud and

Good for you. Yeah. I'm excited to get it going. Male yoga and the yoga Yeah. Yeah.

Group. Yeah. It is like that, Alan. It's That's actually a really great analogy for for a hot band room, like, when it's all hot and you're playing in a, basically, a tough shed. It is. It's a tiny room that we were in here.

Yeah.

Yeah. And it's hot as hell with all those amps in there.

Yeah. And you're just sweating your ass off. And if we're honest, it's homoeroticism.

Bloody murder. As much as the joke is better, it's absolute it is.

You know?

I've got I've had guys try to fight me for making a joke or leaning over and kiss them on the side of the neck. You know? Like, they wanna kill you you just mess I'm just messing with them. Like, oh, shut up, sweetheart. And they just they would you know, you are like you said, you're sweating. You're hot. You're got something heavy. It's hanging on you for hours. You're probably on drugs and alcohol. Yeah. You know, and then some jerk like me kisses you on the neck. Like, I'm gonna this band's over. I'm gonna kill you.

You know? And then you give them free drugs and say, just go back in there. Let's outside and cool off and do this again. We can get this right this time. You know?

Yeah. Okay.

Just don't you will stand over there Over there. Right? Stand by the drummer. I'm not coming in. You know? Until you do it, like, okay. I'll stand behind the drummer. I'm over here. I'm all for all male yoga spaces. I don't know if there are enough of those available. I mean, we Oh, that's such a blessing, dude. Right. I couldn't believe that girl changed my life by giving me that recommendation at the register. She told me that there was You're gonna have to tell Gordie what what you I don't think Gordie was here for Oh, yeah. Yeah. So quick, like, an even faster recap.

Hot Hot meal yoga troop?

Yeah. So I I, I moved from Walla Walla to Boise, and in the process, I was avoiding, buying

sweets at the gas station by going to the co op in La Grande, Oregon and buying

bananas and dates. And the girl at the register told me that because I was on my way to Boise, there was an awesome teacher over there that she knew who was one of her teachers who had a a strictly male yoga thing going on. So I took the information, and I followed him on Instagram. And it probably took me 4 or 5 months, and I finally linked up with him. And it's just awesome. It's super inspiring and awesome.

Oh, he disappeared. Is he

is he still here?

My screen just changed so that, you convinced him to join

a all male yoga

That's

And immediately He's gonna carry the energy directly to the to the nearest all male yoga opportunity.

No delay. There's no it away.

You waited too long, and you regret it. Gordy Yeah. Not Yeah. He's not here tonight. He's like, alright. I know where one is, actually. I've been putting it off. I gotta go tonight.

I hope he bounces back in because, yeah, that was weird.

I mean, either that or I hope that he did that on purpose to get a gag going because if he did that, that's gold. That's, like, the best thing ever.

Jim, did I ever play the hang up on the telephone game with you or not?

Where you say what? If you say what, you get hung up on?

I was trying to you just you just said what? Oh, okay. Yeah. He's gonna hang out and get booty.

So that came the the okay buy at the end of our Sony Pictures show and the hang up on the telephone game Both came from my friend Kevin who was a radio disc jockey, a very good one.

And he worked out of Portland and worked out of that same small country station I was talking about. But, so the game is if anyone wants to play the hang up, on the telephone game, you have to get the person first to agree to the game, obviously. Otherwise, you're just a jerk, and they won't understand why you're hanging But the deal is

if you know for sure you've reached the end of the conversation

where you both intend now to get off the phone sometime soon, If after that mark has been reached, you can somehow convince the other person to say what, as soon as they say what, you can hang up.

And, it's it's a blast. Like, could you say, oh, dude. I saw your mom at the grocery store. It's fucked up.

And they say, what? You hang up on them. You know, it's great. You know? The the beauty is if you start to play the game,

then, you'll stop saying what on the telephone On no matter what. Not even your own mother can't get you to say what because you're conditioned yourself so strong to, like, I'm not gonna get hung up on ever again. So your mom's like, well, you know, You know what I got your sister for Christmas?

And you go,

well,

you know, like, you lead her on. Like, you know, say something else, mom. I'm not gonna say what. Stop trying to trick me.

Hey. We lost you. Welcome back, Marty. Welcome back. Sorry. My, computer died. I I left at,

free drugs, and don't kiss me or I'll punch you.

Oh, okay. So you're going farther. What's that? I think,

Alan no. It's all good. Alan was trying to get me to clue you in on the the Hotmail yoga and, like, how we landed on that. And so what happened was I, I moved from Walla Walla to Boise,

and,

a girl at the co op in La Grande, Oregon,

clued me into this awesome all male yoga,

class in Boise, and it probably took me 4 or 5 months, but I finally joined up. And it's been, like, it's, like, open to the city to me. You know? Like, these guys are awesome. They're all hella cool and chill.

1 of the guys is the guy I was playing music with tonight. Like, he plays, like, cajon and a bunch of percussion stuff. And he's got a little digital drum kit, but he just has this really awesome vibe going with he's got a whole bunch of really nice cajons and other hand drums and stuff. And then he introduced me to a 3rd 3rd guy, and so I was doing that. And we're all gonna go on a really long hike next week, like, 3 days into the Sawtooth Mountains. So we were training today. I actually did a 12 mile hike this morning at 5 AM.

You know? Wow. And then went and played music for 3 hours and then came here, and I'm still feeling stoked. I've got it, man. The energy is here today, so I'm fine with it. You know? That's rough. I'm glad. I wanna do this. That sounds like a blast. Yeah. Come to Boise, bro. We'll hook it up.

Boise.

Idaho.

Yeah. I'm not going to Idaho. But the Boise is cool, man. I understand I understand I wanna go to Idaho. I Totally feel you. I get you. You know, I blend in pretty well. You know, I'm pretty pasty white with red hair, so I don't I don't get a lot of flack. But,

It's not and it's not as bad as what people think, but they're they're also not incorrect, unfortunately. You know, if you go to the small outlying community,

you know,

They they would probably even though you're you're,

presenting

very nice, they would probably still assume that you're some kind of migrant farm worker in the small outlying communities

Just from your appearance. You know? And I'm not judging what you are. I don't even know. You know? I'm I'm not don't misunderstand me as thinking that you're Hispanic either. I don't. I don't know. I have no idea. You know? We'd have to talk. But I I assure you not. If you went, you know, to Nampa, which is, you know, less than an hour from here,

they'd be like, well,

you wanna change some sprinkler piping or some stupid shit like that.

I lived in Montana and Wyoming for years, so I know. Yeah. I Yeah. Yeah. I was, yeah, I was certainly the weird one Because I have, like, 2 colored,

different colored Chucks, and they're like,

you're some kind of fag or something.

Yeah. I understand. Yes. I have some eccentric fashion preferences, so that means I'm definitely a homosexual and a liberal. Correct?

Yes. Exactly. Absolutely. That's what that means.

And I have pigmentation in my skin, and therefore, that's a reason to throw me even harder under the bus by default.

Yeah. That's right. Exactly.

Yeah.

You're

a X rays.

Like, you're on and I was trying to, like, Eyeball you and Oh, I can't imagine. Yeah. Yeah.

Sci what?

Yeah. I get that a lot. Oh, no. We've got a friend who's, who's Full blooded Native American, and, man, every

every different,

you know,

not the black people, but every other brown skinned people, they all try to claim him, but it doesn't matter. Like, you know, the Filipinos tried to claim him. The Samoans tried to claim him. The Mexicans tried to claim him. Everyone outside of any of these groups Tries to also categorize him into it. And he's just a Native American. You know? And it's like, yeah, he he he handles it so well, but he's so he hates it. He really He appreciates that he gets a lot of love,

but the fact that people don't have like, we failed to let people

Just have a little bit of wonder and train them to communicate effectively and be like, wow. You're interesting. I've never met you before. Like, where you know, What's your culture? Where are you from? What you know, what's that all about? That's all you have to do. You don't have to presume anything. You know? Let us sit with the ambiguity for a little while. I I would braid my Hair.

You know? Because I I I was working in a tree farm, an adult day care nursery with these guys who are like, what do you got long hair for? I said, Because my name is Pocahontas.

What does it matter? You know? Like

Yeah. Guy freeze it. And if it's still like that right now, could you really imagine what they were putting up with in, like like, a 1955?

Like, me having long hair and, like, putting it on a in a man bun, like, they just murder us in the street in some places. You know? Like, oh, kill him. Look at that. Doesn't go to the barber and puts it up like a woman. You know what that means.

Yeah.

It it frustrates me to talk about this stuff because the powers

That we have,

designed the whole trap so well that if you say anything that it addresses all this shit in an affirmative way, then you're, By default, being categorized with people that are literally anathema to the whole earth, like, you know, like, social justice warriors, purple hair, Like, completely disregulated emotions and mental health issues that aren't being addressed.

And that's just because you wanna say, hey. Let's talk about, like, egalitarianism

and equality and the process of history and time and what's changed and what hasn't.

And instead, it's like, oh,

you probably voted for Hillary Clinton, didn't you, boy? I'm like, oh my god. You know? I'm gonna shoot you.

Well yeah. And that's that's where we are in the culture today if you haven't declared your pronouns and your sexuality and just Listed it within Yeah. It literally kinda made the Twitter bio at the top.

Within within moments of meeting someone, if you have not given them your pronouns, name, your sexuality, your history of all of this stuff, then they're like, let me why who are you? I'm like,

if I don't

See, I get this all the time as people would ask me, like, oh, I wonder I wonder I wonder if he's gay or straight or what's Yeah. Yeah. And And I and I and I would go on YouTube. I'd give sexuality updates where I'd explain to people things that are going great, and I never once answered the question because I made it very clear to them, The people that I was intimate with, that was a private thing. Yeah. Yeah. They would know because I was intimate with them, But I'm not intimate with everybody who's watching me on YouTube.

It's none of their business. And if they need to know a clear answer, they're not gonna get it. Yeah. And if they can't sit with that, well, then go watch someone else. Yeah.

Yeah. I found this brilliant interview where the man described the difference between, a demand and a high preference and explained that you can have exceedingly

high preferences and do your best to enforce them in whatever way you want. But as soon as you have an actual demand, then you're just a fool because the world doesn't work. You don't get any of your demands. None of them. You know? Like, if we're all dying tomorrow,

because there's no water, demanding water is not gonna help us at all. It's actually gonna make us die faster Sir, from wasting breath and energy to demand it. And so I keep that in my mind for all those people. Like, you're having all these demands,

and all you can really have is, like, you really have a you have a very curious preference to know, you know, who Alan's in bed with. It's none of your fucking business, and he's not gonna tell you.

If you demand, then matter at all to anybody.

Now Gordy's got something. I can see it. Way of life though. Like

Oh, just so I was thinking that that philosophy is really great, though. Like, not Yeah. Yeah. It's stuck in my heart, man. Yeah.

Like, really?

That And applies to

anyone from the universe and and You're real. I

I go back and listen to that interview every once in a while, and I don't remember the man's name.

But, his book was called The 3 Minute Therapist.

And the whole interview

was really about,

it was him arguing against the idea

That guilt is a useful tool to motivate yourself.

And that was the core argument against it was, like, you're putting demands on yourself,

And then you're trying to accommodate your own demands, and your demands are all false. And all you can do is have a high preference to do those things that you wanna do. If you don't do them, if you're kind to yourself, you actually have a better chance of moving towards your goal and getting it done than if you self abuse and self abuse Trying to put demands on yourself that are unreasonable and impossible. And it's it changed my life, man. Because, I mean, I I still use guilt against myself sometimes, but I don't do it intentionally anymore. If I catch myself doing it, I cancel the process and be like, no. We're not gonna do that. You know?

I I eat kind of a crazy strict diet that I really enjoy, but sometimes I say fuck it and eat French fries or eat chocolate cake, like, a whole chocolate cake even, and I don't beat myself up about it. And I'm not happy. Like, oh, man. I ate way too much cake. That was stupid. But I don't be like, Oh, I can't believe I did that, you know, and then, like, use it as some kind of, you know, a tool against myself, and it's way better. You know?

Yeah. It's it's a weird it's a weird headspace to be in

where you have to set these sort of, like,

Expectations

that I'll

I'll never do that or these sort of absolutist

statements. Yeah.

Or for for someone young on the Internet to have to declare their

pronouns and sexuality

before they've ever known Anything about that? Yeah. And then to hold them

years later to say, well, you know, your profile said you were this then, And we have to hold you to that now, and so this will change. So there's this peer pressure

to not allow people to

find themselves in a in a sort of private and safe way. And I don't mean that everyone is going to find themself and discover that, oh, there's

Everybody's gay or

everybody is,

wanting to change transition their gender. The gender dysphoria

Levels are just off the charts now. And when I was doing

YouTube,

videos, I was I was looking like an androgynous alien, like, you know, Michael Jack, whatever. I thought it was funny,

and people didn't get that. This was this was at This is when we had men male

models, you know, going on YouTube and doing makeup tutorials,

and their whole thing was, I'm a gay man, and I do makeup tutorials, and that's my whole brand identity. So I would do that as an ambiguous

person

not Stating any preferences,

and it was like

a art sort of thing. A wonderful wonderful Dadaist mystery.

Yes. Like, why is this guy putting on makeup and giving you, like, guy liner tutorials and just completely serious about it without without making it a gay thing or a pride thing

or an identity

thing because the next day, I would dress completely different. It's like, don't get yourself stuck with labels.

Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like I mean, I would have been into it.

Is your stuff still up there?

Yeah. I've I gotta say,

jumping into this real quick for the that's why on my on in all my social media, in my description for my profile, I use predicates because I love predicates. So I I'm, like, is m r was were have has had do ditched almost. I could like, all because my mom was a my mom's a you think grammar police? My mom's grammar gestapo. Like, my mom is fair grammar gestapo, bro. He's just rattled off every predicate like it was. Dude,

You've gotta memorize better than stockbrokers know the ticket. Yeah. Thank Judith Barsky. Thank Judy Barsky. So Thank you, Denise. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Thanks thanks, Ma.

Yeah. It's literally yeah. Is is MR was where we being met, have us had to do digital,

must pan could, and then Yes. Yeah. We need to make a song, bro. We need to sample that and make a song. And and that was the that was the other point too is that we need to be able to laugh at ourselves. Yeah. When you get 13, 14 year old, 15 year olds on TikTok that are so self serious

about explaining

Sexuality and pronouns. Like that psycho I have pinned on my,

my my Twitter. Yeah. I am wearing this color black. Which means I'm a toaster. This Stay. Or I I feel I'm a shape. You can see the color bracelet I'm wearing. Right. So you can gonna dress you can adjust me. Yeah. It's way everything's good. The color of Jim, really? Jim. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I wish it wasn't. Yeah. The Discord, by the way.

We're not trying to go there. Whatever. I know it's a mess in the chat right now, but, yeah, we need to address that, Jim. Well, I just wanted to get that on the You guys have a Discord. Right? Yeah. And,

some twat

of a very huge twat

that I'm not gonna who shall not be named.

Kick him out if you guys want. Yeah. We need them out ASAP. Like, I'm not having

harassment going on, and, that's what's going on. I just looked. Okay. I don't go to Discord for those reasons.

Oh, yeah. That just that just made me think,

Discord in the Discord.

Discord in the code. Discord.

Wait. Wait. Let me what is that? Don't tell me to tell me cord. Oh oh, insane. Cord. Cord. There you go.

I got this in my court. There you go. Don't make me bust up.

Send dog, dude. I will send dog out.

Straight up.

Laugh. It should be should be done now. Beautiful. Can you make me a, an a modern admin?

Wait. What next? Not not right now. Yeah. No. I'm sorry, buddy. You seem stressed. I'm sorry. Hey. We're we're I'm so curious. And now I'm gonna have to hit the DMs later to find out what I just missed because I know it doesn't want to be, broadcast over there. It's not worth it. It really is not worth it. It really isn't, but I had to address it right then and there because it's Oh, I understand. If something's starting to flame up, then you gotta do it, especially because we've got police,

like, you know, our Discord, we we we in a subtle way, we regulate it really good because we've got a nice little core group of people, But lots of people have lost their server because they're not aware of what Discord secret etiquette rules are and or the things that may get you

Ban hammered for your whole server, you know. And people also don't know that they can back up their entire server. So and and reupload it in places that are not Discord.

And, you know Not not to get on the Discord thing, but also I just was perusing for a second after I saw what Went down in ours and, went over to one that I'm not gonna name right now that's huge. And it is literally some, like,

Some of those, like, outright racist crazy, like, really? Like and I'm not gonna be, like, racist. Like, oh, that's but, no. Like, this isn't even equal opportunity fund racism. This is literally like No. Yeah. Just straight, like, we're rednecks, and we're not ashamed, and we're not gonna have it at all. Right? Yeah. And

No joke. Like, that has to like, that is that's gonna go away, and that's one of my favorite servers. But, I mean, like, really? It says not safe for work. Are you sure you wanna go? Yeah, dude. But, Wow. Oh, Discord doesn't care. They'll bash it down as soon as they decide to. They won't do it consistently like, oh, it happens every day and we knock it down every day. Whole bunch of the crap will go on for years, and other stuff will be attacked immediately. And then years later, that stuff will start being attacked too if there's danger. But it's it's it's mutual friends of all of

Sean and, you know, Jim, it's it's people that we,

you know

Oh, yeah. I understand.

Very, very you know, You've you've been on his show before, both you 2. So

national.

I'm sure you can figure it out. Yeah. Yeah. That's a easy clue. Yeah. There you go. So, not far from y'all.

But anyway, yeah, that's gross because it looked like a 4 chan or 8 chan. Like, literally, like, wow. Yeah. That's a yeah. I don't like landing in someone's Discord, and it makes me think, oh, I'm on the boards. That's not good. Yeah. That on the board. Felt like yeah. Because because there's not the anonymity of the boards does not exist inside of the platform, what we call cord. Exactly.

You cannot. You you brings us back to the beginning of the conversation when you're talking about 4chan and the the early

Wild west days of Yeah. Words in the community. That was that was

gross. But, I mean, like, no. There's there's that was gross. Like, whenever I went into, like, I stumbled into the those chants, Like, I was like, wow. You this is like people wanna say that they're not, like, we whatever. We're not right. There's no such thing as white privilege or what whatever.

And it's just like, okay.

Shut up.

And also, like, wow. You guys are just Out there with it, like, damn. Oh, it's weird now because they used to be real, and now it's meta LARPing sarcasm

combined with me real. So it's just a mind fuck. It's, like, almost impossible to quantify it. It's a 9 field and a 9th book. Yeah. Exactly. You you get young folks who are,

really interested in sort of this group politic idea. They will join together in private servers, and then they'll go and invade

other servers Yeah. Yeah. Role play as

A white supremacist

Right. Build their other channels with white supremacists and other hateful material,

c p,

cheese pizza, and other sort of Illegal materials

Yeah. To then get those things shut down. Yep. And then they're like, victory, and then they move on to the next Yeah. They took the World of Warcraft strategy and moved it right into,

into the metaverse, into the the the series of tubes that we call the interwebs.

For sure. Yeah, man.

Yeah. It's it's it's gross. It really is because It's very unproductive if those teenagers Took that energy that they weren't,

they weren't alchemically

transmitting into something

beautiful.

Yeah. They could even just make model cars, like, with, like, enamel paint and glue

and some piece of sandpaper and an X ACTO knife. Like, that would be fine. You could even paint them ugly so I don't like them, but do that instead

of LARPing, you know,

finding victory in trickling.

That

You guys did you guys do models as a kid? A little bit. I know Jim did some. I did some. I showed you mine. Like, I don't know how old you guys are, but the glue in the seventies was phenomenal.

Yeah. Yeah.

By the way, I got No. You actually touch it together and it glues.

Right. It was

Yes. And it never comes loose again. I got I was buying superglue the other day. But it it was I got card magical doing a model. Like, I've never tripped before. But I think that I was

I had to admit my first, like Oh, you're talking about, accidentally or intentionally maybe inhaling some of the glue.

I'll never forget rubber cement and ISS. That got me through in school suspension. That got me through some tough times, man. 7 That's awesome that you have the Mir space station.

Yeah. It's a Revel monogram,

snap type, but I I had,

memories of, like, the the paint. You'd go to the Ben Franklin, and you go to the craft section, find the paints. So you have to mix the paints, and then you have to get the special

the epoxy glue to get Like, the go I mean, there's there's a lot of different chemical stuff that you can learn and and,

assemble.

Well, if you wanna know what gym does, Just imagine doing that on the largest scale you could possibly scale it up to potentially and having

none of the tabs

And none of the little a's or b's or none none of that stuff that says this is how they go together, that's not there. What you have to do is you have to invent that yourself on the Fly ad hoc and then hope that it works when you're done. That's that's what Jim does.

Right, Jim?

But wouldn't it just be more fun to dedicate All your energy to shut down, your enemies' Discord servers. Yeah. It would be much better. We wouldn't get any huge mermaids and instead We'd feel like we conquered white supremacists that don't exist in the way that we imagine they do.

What a world we Right. These people and hobbies. Ethereum.

Yeah. I really do I really do wish Beaujillard was wrong, but he was not.

He wasn't right either, but he definitely wasn't wrong, unfortunately.

We're living inside of some series of simulacra that are no longer, unfortunately, referencing us to what we would have called reality even just 20 years ago.

Right. People are acting as if.

And, unfortunately, they're also calling that,

Well, they're calling it real. You know, those of us outside of it are calling it good enough or the appearance of what they would call good enough. Know, this reality is good enough. We'll just use it. Like, this isn't it's not you're not you're missing it. This isn't reality.

Even what we're doing here tonight is the meta reality That is gonna be hard to we couldn't really define it very easily tonight if we wanted to hammer down. What does it mean that we're all connected

Through cameras and microphones and video,

then, you know

No. I see.

Take things into account, like Falling offline like Gordy just did or lossy,

feed and your or latency in the feed. I've always wanted to get on here and try to play music together to see because that'll tell us that'll tell me what the latency really is. You know?

If Jim starts playing the piano and I'm trying to play along, I'll get a feel for the latency. And I figure if we do it enough, we could probably actually get good at it. It would be really weird. Right. Have you seen, 2 minute the 2 minutes to late night or or or I think it's 2 minutes to late night on, it's from the Saint Vitus Club in, Brooklyn,

where it's,

It's,

Steve Brodsky from Mutoid Man.

He was in Cave In as well.

Great band. And

Who else is in? I think Rob Kaggio, who does sound at Saint Vitus, and,

it's a great show. They'll have, like, John Basilie, John Dyer Basilie from Baroness Come on, and do they'll do cover, like, Purple Rain. They do a like, it's great. Right? It's like a a lot of understand. This sounds terrific. Oh, it's amazing. Okay? But they had it they've been doing Since COVID happened, they had it or I'm I'm sorry. COVID

happened. They actually,

were doing just what you said with literally, like, super groups. So they'd have, like,

like, crazy metal head. Like, I'm trying to think, like like, oh, what's the name from Clutch? The front man of Clutch? I can't think of his name for some stupid Yeah. I can't think of his name either. They'll have him, like, doing like, singing, and then they'll have,

like,

they'll have, like, Marty Friedman, not Marty Friedman, but, like, Dave Mustaine playing guitar,

like super groups of just Yeah. Yeah. Like Max Cavalera. Yeah. But they probably got they probably got the bandwidth to solve the latency down to almost nothing. I was talking us doing it with this shitty these shitty connections that we have and see what happens.

Right. I I'm curious. I'm wondering. I'm not I don't have the because it might be better than we think. I've just never tried it yet. You know? Right. We're pretty good.

Jim, you can check your stats, I wonder, but I think you're getting pretty good.

I remember you mentioning that your bandwidth was solid, better over Oh, we Jim Jim went out of pocket to fix it, and I don't think he was able to ever to go back. Once you've got the good shit, you don't go back to, like, half ass shit. You know? But we compared, and,

I've got What do you mean? Monsoons.

200 and I'm got 250,

down,

steady,

hardwired and Wi Fi. It's the ups that really matters. Right. And up, I'm getting, 15

to 20

megs a second. Now now Gordy chimed in there with something I didn't catch. Sorry, Gordy. What did you say, pal? Yeah. No. I was I was saying I'm blaming the

monsoons for my Oh, yeah. For your connection. You'd be monsoon. Yeah. What's going on down there? I was hearing, Yes. Is it

y'all are getting is it just monsoon season? Yeah.

Where are you I mean, Can you say where you're at without, making it too obvious? I guess probably not because he's frozen. You know where he's at. Tux Tuxan.

Oh, okay. Alright. That's fine. Yeah. I'm in Tucson. It's it's monsoon season here, and so

every night we get mon

Monsoon season. Susan. Oh, sorry. Oh, sorry. I I missed it. Anyway,

we get, these crazy rains with Huge storms, and there was,

that last week, there was a funnel cloud in our neighboring

They're we don't get tornadoes. No. Yeah. No. Yeah. A photo of that. Yeah. We had tornadoes.

And it it I mean, it was It's been crazy, the weather here. Is that something with the, the Oregon devices that are being put up all around?

The Cloudbusters, baby. Yeah. Yeah. We're not gonna do it. Position.

Well, that's cool. I mean, I that's one of the things I do have, manipulation.

I wish people that were doing the, like, hey. We're gonna do big scale kinda like industrial energy work. I wish they would

Be a little bit less myopic. I'm not saying I'm against it. You know? If you can do something to interrupt the the cell phone integrity so that it's not, you know,

Completely just eating away with its little process. But you're putting eddies everywhere just like in a river

When you, you know, you intentionally take, like, this huge device that's gonna affect chi, for lack of a better word Yep. And it works. It does something.

Well, then you're creating eddies everywhere. You know? And then if 50 of those eddies get together, they do affect the wind. And then you have a fucking funnel cloud in Arizona, and that's not good. You know, especially when it's not supposed to be there. Like, if it's in,

the Midwest, then that's at least understandable or a little weird. Right. But not you know, tornado is not supposed to roll through Tempe.

You know? Yeah. No. That doesn't happen. That's that's you know, the sun might as well come up in the wrong side. Is that This kind of stuff is gonna happen, but I think it's because it's a combination of their truly

militarized,

weather and,

magnetic manipulation. And then you do have lots of people

doing

energy work and other types of work that are effective. It does something. You know? There's literally thousands of wizards all over the world right now doing weather magic, and you can't say it does nothing. That's not true that it does nothing.

Even the most pathetic one We're doing something. So we've got this weird

confluence for you. I guess that's the perfect word. Like, the craziest confluence we've seen in our in my lifetime. I've never seen the weather go so crazy. I was describing the shadow run pen and paper role playing game earlier, and that's basically where

technology and magic is open, and everybody knows about it. And that's what the game is all about. It's like modern day cyberpunk, computers, technology, matrixes,

servers, data, big corporations, corporatocracy,

And then orcs and elves and all these fantasy races actually exist

in real world,

And then they're doing all the magic and the sorcery and the majoring and all this. And and, like, well, that's the world we live in in 2021. There's

Yes. Yeah. Your analogy was good. I don't know if any of us able to confirm that because I think you're well, I've been warning people for quite a while that this is they're bringing the magical world back. You know, someone like Gordon White doesn't hide it at all. He says, you know, we're gonna bring animism back to the big table. Well, I mean, you know, if you think that Gordon White is just kinda, like, Some pathetic little guy that's got a podcast and lives on a farm down in Australia, and that he's not really very important or powerful, and that he's not, like, a huge high up, wizard. He's a wizard, man.

Then you're naive, and you don't realize he's announcing to you at a courtesy, really. He's letting you know, like, hey. We're gonna make everything alive again whether you like it or not.

So Have you read have you read Chaos Protocols?

No. I've never read the Chaos Protocols. I know what it is, but I don't know. Yeah. It's good. To. That's cool. Sure. I should've just called. Yeah. How how I looked at some of his digital magic and work that that was for free way back in the day, but it's probably been 4 years, 5 years since I looked at it. Okay. And it works, man. I've done

Oh, yeah. It's I've done residual magic. It works really good, actually. I've done it. I've Done it, but I feel like I didn't put a 100% because, like, you know what I mean? Like, I mean, I'd I had it in doubt. Any which way. No. I had where it was literally a conflict of like, a moral conflict with it. Yeah. I understand. I literally,

Yeah. I went about it and, you know,

you know how you know how it works.

So I would not Yeah. There are a a variety of ways to Charge decision, but there is one that's I did popular.

Is it I did the yeah. I did the,

the the

The old standard. The old standby.

You keep looking to the left like that with that grin on your face. You're gonna end up with more dad memes on Twitter. I'm just gonna warn you right The scroll is over there,

if you wanna call it us. It's charging you at this very moment. I am cool.

We're We're all charging it now that you said that. Looking at it. Right? I'm looking right at it.

And,

it's actually the same

because I am well, okay.

I could you I I am going to

I don't need, I guess, to will this into existence,

So so to speak, because I know that this is going to happen.

This was gonna happen last year, though, in September

as opposed to happening in, I wanna say, like, a month. Okay. So it's almost the exact same thing, but now there isn't a moral conflict of interest for me, if you get what I'm saying. So I don't have to feel like a jerk and or, like or not a jerk. Very important in all of this.

Say that again. The timing is very important in all of this work.

I understand. We're we're I I get I yeah. Okay. So

I totally get that, and I'm with you on that a 100%. It is very important for those out there,

that are interested in doing that at this or Sigil Magic. But,

Yeah. There's no conflict. There's no more conflict of interest here anymore,

because it's it's it's open season right now. I know I'm being extremely vague,

but,

I don't know.

All that aside,

I'm curious, though. There there could be a few, you know,

wrenches thrown into the the mechanism, if you will,

for me achieving

what I want to achieve, right, with with this sigil magic. So

I just may use

the,

the old standby

Again,

give it a shot.

Oh, god. I gotta go here. Gets into. And in his book, he describes the site if you're gonna do sigil magic, you're gonna maybe have, like, 10 different sigils, and 8 of them are gonna be things that you

One specific thing that I want to happen that I know that there might be a few issues, whether they be monetary, whether they be

schedule. You know what I mean? Time. It could be a number of things.

Those are very, very real issues that could could arise here. Right?

Not just

did I get this oh, man.

Jokes could are flowing here in my brain better than I can say. But, anyway And there is flowing again. They just keep yeah. Let's just keep the gutter. Well, that's what happens to me to be there. Yeah. Right?

If you bring this up

Yeah. Right? I mean It's getting to be the witching hour. It is. Later and later. Close.

Somewhere. It's 12:30 here.

Yeah. Yeah. 11:30

here. You're mountain time? Yep. So you damn. You so you just cross over there, Jim, and you're 1 hour closer.

Yep.

That's it.

That's a fact. Interesting.

You can you can drive right right

Past a big sign that says that you're going over the top of the 45th parallel, which is halfway between the equator and the North Pole. Aren't you right off 94 I I I understand 94 too right over by you guys.

94 in Boise? Yeah. No. No. It's 84.

84. Yeah. It's 9 where's 94? Missoula? Where's 94? Yeah. I think I think, I don't remember, man. I used to have it memorized how the highway system works because it's really linear and simple, and I forgot. And I've never got that. Runs right through right through here. So that's Right. Yeah. So 94 probably goes through Spokane. That would be my guess. You know, Spokane, top of,

Montana and all that stuff. I'm just guessing though. Yeah. Well,

Anyways, I well, I guess I could go only whatever and go into the eastern,

time zone, but that's neither here nor there because Indiana's right there. Yeah. I know. It's all stupid. Where are we going? Here. Where are we going? Thank you, Gordy. Thank you. So sick of sick of sick of sick of This

This this is one of the parts of the I can't lie. I know. I've been waiting for talk. To say this. I've been waiting to say this that, one of the parts of the show that I do enjoy and that makes me, the most uncomfortable

is when Barsky gets off on a a tangent, and he can't reel it in, and no one jumps in to help him or to push him. That happens all the time. And and so and so I mean, it's because everybody loves it. It's a huge part of the show. I mean, because, really, this show was your idea. So, I mean, they can't. Right. And the energy of the creation of the show itself. You know, they do. Gordy just said he helps you. You know? Gordy does help. Like, god. We know when there's a Jim will be staring at the chat room. He's manning the chat. I know he's I know it's rough to him. You you He's part of Jim's life now. If if he's on live, he has to he you know, otherwise, the people in the chat might feel neglected, especially if if Jim's around, the at this point, people expect him to help out in the chat and be around. Exactly. You know, it's like it's not because he has to. It's just it's part of the routine. You know? Exactly. Like, if me and you were together, someone would pick up a guitar. This is if it didn't happen, then something's wrong. Like, what's no one's gonna play guitar at all? Yeah. So we mad at each other? Imagine being in the same room with you too. It would oh, god,

Dude, this is, like or whatever whole man, there it would be it would be absolute chaos in this if we're all, like, in the same room with It Yeah. If we think it says I would love to do that. Yeah. If we can do the RX only panacea together, then you're gonna be the road manager. Oh my god, dude. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like Then we're gonna We're gonna rip a hole in the real universe, and the the fake ones are gonna flow out like a big cliff. Right? Straight up, dude. Straight up. When s p was telling us about the hang up On the phone game, I thought he meant something completely different. I thought the game on the phone was to never hang up And make the other person

do it and feel really terrible about it. So you can't do it great Allen. All We won't talk about that. Well, the game the game ends up there, too, Ellen. You both that's you both can't get off the phone. That's when you're talking to a girl Oh, usually.

Like and you just don't wanna hang up. The end of every show is always

oh, it's always weird for me. I know. Me too. Because I'm like, Alright. Bye.

Yeah. But it's not.

Until now it's We should change we should change it right now that the end of your guys' show is alright Bye. Because mine was okay bye. It was, you know, okay bye. But if you guys change it to alright bye. Alright. Bye. Bye. Alright. Bye.

For anyone who's still listening to us, after we leave the the YouTube live, we usually stay on the line, and we gotta, I mean, you do. Well, I'm I'm not gonna see who's Get to work. I'm sorry. I'm working. I remember texting it. It was like, Alan, stop. Stop. Like, I just started my work day, Barsky. Like, it's 5 in the morning, but I just started my work day, Barsky.

No.

Sorry. I didn't mean to throw you under the bus, but I did. I love you.

So does I have I have, like, an unconfirmed fear of Alan if he decides that it's time to grind back

It's really hard on everybody that it could go ugly for us. You know? Because he's such a kind such a genuinely kind soul. You get him on the day when it's like, alright. I'm gonna give you guys a little bit of help. We could all be in a bad way. We might not know what's happening. You think you're all smart and sassy here coming on this. You just Bitch, bitch, bitch about the highways.

You guys, oh my god. I'm waiting for that day. I would love to See, Alan Right. Alan go off like that? Oh my god. I thought we yeah. Here we are talking We were friends. Odds. No. No. The odds are Odds are north and south, even east and west.

I 30 Probably, I I found a I found a hot pressure button to push there because that you know, I said just something pretty casual, and it blew up, man. You guys you got a lot of power in here, Alan.

I'm sorry if we bestowed it on you.

You didn't do anything. You just naturally have a tremendous amount of power with this group.

Just wait until Which is terrifying.

Force like, for when when when Forcing,

the what was the after show when we're all just, like, dead. It's, like, 5 o'clock in the morning, and, I'm forcing them to watch neurosis,

Like live neurosis.

Oh, god. Like lives and or Queens of the Stone Age, like, for 4 hours, like, you gotta understand this. No. You got it. You guys got it. No. You get Yeah. You gotta coach you through it too. Here's a live band video footage in here. Let me talk over the top of it and tell you which part you're Was the no account

I'm not that bad. I'm not that bad. I let it ride right now. WSW on a Saturday night. It's getting Sunday morning, And we're listening He had to know. Sessions.

Desert sessions. He had to know. It's all good. And then the sun comes up, and then I start talking to Barsky about how I'm really upset about the Catholic revival

in the town over, and I get and I start itching and scratching. I'm getting really angry that but How about this Catholic revival and these relics that they brought into the next town over

that I didn't get to go and see, but they keep posting in the paper. And I'm going I might Bars Barsky, can are you looking at I'm showing them paper. I'm reading them to it. And Barsky's like

Nodding off like, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Like falling asleep. And I think you get to the point where you're like, Dude, I gotta go. I have to throw up, and I'm like, oh, dude. I make Barsky throw up because

he doesn't like Catholics either. I don't.

I mean, let's be realistic here. But, so they brought relics they brought relics through the town? Relics everywhere. Catholics have to you gotta have Bone No. I know. But, I mean, if there's a brand new revival, then that means they gotta bring out, like, either it has a cake bone from somewhere else Or come This is a Lutheran community. City. Oh, no. That's not even Catholic. Yeah. That's messed up. The Lutheran community Catholic state. Catholics are bringing in the relics

to the community. They're marching down the street and going in front of the, the the, the women's health clinic

And the the Life Choices Center, and they're doing the blessings.

The cast of They're they're they're actually

Lutheran time. I'm like, they've never done this They've never done this right street in this town in the history of recording anything. So now they're writing them out in the paper. And I'm telling Barsky this. After he's been playing the desert sessions for 4 and a half hours, he's ready to go to sleep. The sun is rising up, and I'm like,

and I'm I I just Came on hand, and I'm like Yeah. I know. I that's that's terrifying.

But it's They're they're practicing black magic against you

As a community.

God forbid someone say it plainly. Yeah. The the Catholic church is one of the greatest Black magic organizations we've ever seen rise up in the history of all of mankind.

This was Sorry, guys. I have many Catholics that I love very much. They also acknowledge the honest ones also knowledge that this is true and that they're a part of the organization anyway because they think it's the right one to be in, but there is all of this horrific fucking satanic black magic going on that stems from left And That Wednesday

metacism. That Wednesday was when the sun was rising, and there was,

an annular eclipse. Right? The sun was Oh, that that was the end. Yeah. That was that that was that Wednesday.

And I ran

to to go see it in the morning, and I'm staring at this shot of it. As it's going up, and I got some picture. And I'm like, wow. This is cool. And but I ran through the the ivy, the sumac, and the oak, and I had gotten oils on me. So I'd wash them off, but then Sunday morning, I'm like, oh, no. And I and my whole, like,

Side was covered in Oh, so that's ash. Yeah. That's why it got itchy. Okay. That makes sense. True story. So I'm itching myself, and I'm Really irrational. I'm talking about hear the new Catholics.

And what are the Catholics doing in the town over? And Barcia's like, dude, I'm trying to

Yeah. Exactly. I'm trying to nod out right here. Like, we've been talking for 6 hours, and you won't hang up on me.

And I think you're gonna throw up because this is a bad vape bed or something.

I'm like, Oh, okay. And then I get up and I and I go upstairs. I'm like, I wonder if that thing I go to bed. No. It's, you know, it's 7 AM. And I take my shorts off, and I'm like, oh Oh, I've got a huge patch of

something

on my

side. Oh, yeah. I got a residual magic session there. What's up? Oh, sorry. Go ahead.

No. It was the it was the the poison ivy ochre.

Oh, Sumac. That's a good man too. That's a good Good photography cost Turner. Cost a steep price, Man, good photography, especially of a of a rare eclipse or something. Yeah. You might run right through,

well, up here where we live, you would Run through, the stinging nettles. Right, Jim? Less poison ivy and poison oak. Stinging nettles. This kind of this kind of photography?

Yeah. There you go. Nice.

Well, here, I can trump that. Hold on. I've got the only one the only one that was ever ordered.

Oh, nice. Get up closer, Brooke, because I need oh, is that oh, that's hey. That's the man. On the world, and we just Look at that. Yeah. Tracy Timing made this. That's beautiful. I just ordered it. You can still order it online right now if you want to. On the, There's

a there's one for

Redbubble, and the other one's for Zazzle, I think. And the products are Plus

Ultra Plus Ultra Club. Yeah. Plus Ultra Club. Yeah. Revive. So myst so mystagogue didn't,

I don't think. Oh, I've got the passwords for that stuff. And to please, well, I might not have said that, live just now.

Stella Moon knows, what, the rash was like

But, yeah, the that information was, shared with me by a deceased person,

in good faith. So I don't have any problem with it, honestly.

Through a series of done anything with it, but it's it's,

Was was the password given to you through knocks on wood and use of a spirit board?

Nope. It was, through a series of tubes.

I was gonna say a series of tubes and some table tipping.

They used, they used, a QWERTY keyboard and a series of Tube.

A discordian keyboard. What? Sorry. QWERTY. QWERTY.

QWERTY. Q w e auto t y. Cordies? Auto Have you guys used any of these other keyboards?

What is the accordion keyboard? Like, there's a Or the the Dvorak. Well, there's a RORZACK keyboard.

Yeah.

And I don't remember the other 2 that are pretty popular anymore. Oh, I want a Rosheck keyboard. You can you can install them, you mean, is what you're saying? No. It's a different key layout. It's Yeah. Key layout. And there are some other features that were just the key layout. But yeah. But

Some some people say if you learn it, I don't I think the ROR jack one was the one that you can get really fast at typing with because the

The reason that they laid out these QWERTY keyboards the way that they are is because,

electric

not pardon me. Not electric. Mechanical typewriters would get stuck. People would try to type too fast. Exactly. So so they laid it out so that you have this dance of of choosing keys so that they come up And come down and not interfere with each other. So there's clip into it. Yeah. They don't clip in JPEG. Oh, you we've all played it. You know, I'm I've got a nice typewriter somewhere. Need to put better ink in it. Right. And the the the Dvorak layout has it so you can keep your hands on home row for the most Use letters. Right. Most of what you're typing, all these words are Oh, Mavis Beacon. Hey. You talked to Mavis Beacon.

Remember that? That was that was about we had type in class, Mavis Beacon type in classes in in 7th grade. I think I think we should get Barski some stilts and some terrifying costumes and mic him up and cam him up and just send him downtown to talk to people with a big booming voice and just live stream it and just call it good. Don't have to do anything. We'll get rich. We'll get filthy rich.

We'll have to get him some knee pads and some elbow pads and a helmet underneath the costume because he will fall down. He's gonna Fall down like that. I've got, dude, I'm

beyond ambidextrous. I've great I've got a great not saying that you're not talented, but, you know, the the situation's gonna push you into, you're gonna You know, you'll you'll fall off a bridge. It'll be fine. You know? Okay.

Yeah.

Barsky, you should be Imagine imagine him running up to the cart that has the, the relics in it and just Terror you know, screaming with a modulated voice that's modified with a, you know, with a mic. With a hammer with a with a giant hammer And

Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't I can carry, like, a wooden door. Someone carry a wooden door behind me and just Right. And scream something like, 90s of god. Or, you know. 95.

That's right. Or 93. I'll pull pull a code. No. You don't need that, please. Community.

You're gonna give him the wrong idea about all of us if scream 93. Undo that. Come on, man. Come on, my the the the the the the weaving spiders hurt me. Gonna take the same Strategy, like 42666-9393

is my number. The Selamites and the Lutherans

consign against their efforts

To prevent the spread of the Catholic rash. That's exactly that would be the headline. That's brilliant. And they would and then people would believe that it's real, And then it would become real. That's not good. That's bad. In aggregate. No. We will create this. We we just did it. We just did it. We did. We just did. The seed exists now, unfortunately. Yeah. No. Exactly. Running my mouth. Let's pulpo that out. Hey. Let's get this This is gonna be the other pulpo.

Thing. Yeah. Might. We're at 16 right now. We got a 16 still hanging strong. Elliot, what's up, Roy? 6. Where you at? I know I'm looking at the I looked I looked, and there's an OTO chapter in Boise, and that kinda tripped me out. I just confirmed it for myself, and then I went away. Actually, I found their Facebook page, and I read a little bit. I'm like, okay. I gotta get away You gotta hit the scarlet chapter? You gotta hit the scarlet woman 1 in, Austin.

OTO,

Ordo 10th

Oh, yeah. Or the antise. Yeah. That's the one that hentai drove. It looks it looks pretty active, you know, which, I mean, I don't I know everybody is really down on those people judges them a lot. I don't feel that way. I'm very wary of them because I know a lot about, their alleged history, and there's no way to confirm what is or isn't absolutely true. Just like any other organization, I'm also very wary of Mormons or or Latter day Saints or Seventh day Saints Every time I answer, I'm I'm thinking With the Pescatarians, man. I'm With a church story, a Christian church story Yeah. That's what Thelemites do with 90 threes and all of their memes. Oh, I know. Their

becomes more annoying than an evangelical Christian ad hoc. I mean, there's you know? If if I'm being completely above board, as as much as I try not Judge. I might do have a channel in my Discord called Stella My Cringe, and there is some stuff in there.

I think as long as you're aware of what it is.

Right? Because if you're in that kind of organization,

like, as long as you're aware of what

You are and what you're doing and what your intentions are. I think you're, you know, you're good. I I do too. I agree. I agree.

My grandpa was a

a pretty high up Mason, and he was Yes. Like, he was

I don't I don't know

How did of the demonization

like, he was

the godliest man I've ever known, the most loving person, like, The gen most genuine human I've ever known

like can't tell me he didn't have good, you know

What he practiced in that had bad intentions.

No. Yeah. I agree then. And and most people don't Study the history of it enough to know that I mean, it it's a basic the most basic theory is not that the Masons were always a bunch of bad guys. It was that they were secret guilds that were protecting trade secrets and other, mystical and spiritual secrets and that they were infiltrated by people with horrible intentions,

Literally called the Illuminati.

You know, that I mean, Weishaupt's plan Adam Weishaupt's plan was to

use Blue and Red Lodge Masonry as a Shield to defend them from being found out and broken up. Exactly. You know? And then lightning struck the horse and killed the man that showed it all to the world. Right. And why is that I've got a lot of stuff. Washington. Guys, I mean, George Washington is wise ops. I don't know if you guys heard that. Yeah. That's a beautiful theory. It's a fun one. That's a beautiful theory. We you could do a whole show on that. Yeah. Washington is white's house. Hey. What are you guys doing right now? Do you wanna do a show on Say that George Washington. Adam, why is that?

No. Can I I got I got a date? Can I Guys, this is the start of my work day?

Yes. Right. Beginning of my work day. Sorry. I got a date right now. Buddy.

Yeah.

Yeah. With the toilet in 5 months. Sit on this one, I'd be on a date, but I'm not gonna because I'm gonna eat it.

Is this where I do it? Throw some prunes in your

No. Just beached. Bye.

Alright. Alright. Bye.

Hello. What up, Mario?

I love you, Jim. I love that was amazing.

So, yeah, we're live. We're getting live. What up, Malia?

You say Lolita? Any idea of the chat?

Yo. Malia is Malia is amazing. There's a joke. She hire.

I let it go over my head. I let it go all over my head.

There's a lot of near

reading room. Just missed my face. It's not okay. It's just a water for a not a coffee reading room. I heard that.

Namaste.

I'm a stay, y'all. I'm a stay.

Namaste. Namaste. Hey. Namaste.

Alright. I wonder I wonder how many black guys were telling people that he was gonna stay, and they thought he was offering an eastern peace greeting.

I need that laugh, dude, anymore. Jimmy got the greatest laugh of all, but I don't think he's pumped it at all. I know. He does. He really does. There's there's nothing even close to Jim's lap. I think we need to talk about this, though. Video drill. We all need to talk about that. Oh, that just makes me think That makes me think of, Jason Jane's Bickford episodes that are probably lost forever.

Dude, tell me. Some he did some deep awesome work on Videodrome.

Dude, Debbie Harry. Yeah. I'll do some deep awesome work on

this.

Holy good lord. I love her so much.

Anyway yeah. The Lost Works of Bickford,

does he do you have them in your your

Man, I'm jealous, Julio.

Man, this one's all hard. I don't know if I want that one.

Alright. Gutter.

Straight gutter.

Mhmm.

I'm white trash. You guys didn't know?

There's a new agent. I didn't think I was hiding it at all. It's like triple on top of it. It's so beautiful.

Is this so good? That must be sly about my white trash.

Well, I'm trying to live it so that it's honest, which is different than all most other white trash. But, I mean, I'm not Right. To me, acting like a yacht authentic. I mean, I just I told you earlier in the show where I came from. Can you get any white and trashier than, like, were poor people and rich people?

And you guys wanna hear something awesome? I was conceived at the confluence of the American and Sacramento Rivers in a place called Discovery Park.

The rubber broke, and here I am.

Alright.

I'm serious.

I know. I just live with that sometimes. Today today when we were on the hike, somebody mentioned a local place called Discovery Park, and my I almost fell off the trail.

Like, Discovery Park. Like, that's where I'm from, you know, in a in a really weird way. Metaphysically, I'm from Discovery Park. Really?

Where are you from? Wow.

Yeah. My dad was trying to hook it up under a bridge. It's a simple magic. They use what I said. It worked out for him. His dad tried to tell tell him to kill me and and he wouldn't go for it, but he ran away. Oh.

He died. It sucked.

It's hard, you guys.

Oh, this could go so many different directions, and I'm glad it's just staying put. Now now let me let me also add as a caveat and a warning. If you're in Sacramento,

Do not go to Discovery Park. It is not a nice place to park under a bridge and have a good time anymore. There are junkies there. They will kill you. Don't go. Okay. What's the And that's I mean, you could just fall on the river and drown because the Sacramento River is very dangerous and old and full of undertow. Right. Where it runs into the American River, which is young and fast is obviously, that's what makes it really dangerous. But that's not the truly dangerous thing. It's the people down there on meth, And and so don't go.

Sean, I gotta ask you something, about Sacramento because I actually called the Sacramento b Regarding this, friend, I think I've told the story on

the

show before where a buddy it was the mission.

Remember when we're talking about Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I vaguely remember that. I was on the show, but I remember Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And my one of my close Garrett. What up, Garrett?

And David Shaw. What up, David? You I haven't talked to you guys in a long time, but, Gary, I talked to you last year, so maybe. Who knows? Anyway,

Yeah. They

were homeless in San Francisco

and whatever, and they ended up getting picked up

by couple random girls that were cute. And, they were marked, obviously, from well, you must they weren't black, You know, obviously, from the Midwest that, you know, had their backpacks on blah blah, and they ended up at this freaking mission place.

It there's, like, some giant house mansion type thing, whatever.

And,

yeah, and the story is just so wild, and it was told,

over,

about

For 3:3 hour story roughly over,

mounds of,

cocaine

back in probably 2000 or more. Yeah. Remember this story. Did you tell it on the air, or did it was it just a private conversation? No. I believe I told it on the air because it was it's too good of a story,

and it was just so memorable.

And,

yeah, I've always just wondered about that area and if you'd ever heard. Because I remember thinking, who else is from that area? Like, Sacramento. Because they ended up, Like, the hood saved them. Like, they ended up leaving all their clothes. They ended up going like, figuring out where they were after, like, 2 days It really was like some meth crash house type thing, whatever. Story now. Yeah. And then they ended up running because they were being walked to, like, some Barn air it's like a horse. It's like a chamois Yeah. Horse. It's worse than that.

And, yeah, they ended up just booking and never looking back. And they left all their stuff, and they they were freezing cold. And they ran through the night, ran through all these woods, and ended up, like, in the middle of, like, downtown Sacramento. And the hood took care of, like, Literally took care of them, bought their bus Greyhound tickets back to Wisconsin.

Yep. Type situation. So I've always wondered. I like, I called this like, story was so crazy. I couldn't sleep for, like, 2 days after one night. It wasn't just the cocaine, but, I couldn't sleep. Like, that story just blew my mind. I'm, like, doing research on it, and this is Early. This was 2001,

early 2001.

So we're doing a research plan of, like, Road Runner Internet. You know? I'm like, come on. I gotta figure There's outdoor displays of the mission, and then I find missions everywhere because it's, like, yo, San Antonio.

The state of California. The whole thing is missing. How do you think they got it away from And then the native Yeah. Right? Yeah. Exactly. And then the you get processed through all that shit. So there's probably, like, ex process church members. I just wanna It's probably just a spin Cool. It's what they're in. Exactly. Or it's just this process church itself. You know? Exactly. Yes. Who knows? But, all that aside, I just had wondered now that we have you here. If you'd if you'd ever

if you if you ever stumbled into,

anything along those lines or anything crazy like that. Because I remember when I called the Sacramento Bee and tried calling, like, News station Saturn, they had that we've heard about this place. Like, multiple journalists had heard about it. People are following us. This is horror stories.

Just so we're talking about the same thing. This is that this is part of that pedophile ring. Right?

No. This This has no human trafficking? This has no No. No. This is just a Barsky story that he got relayed by the people that it happened to. Right? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. And just answer to your question things up. David is yes. Absolutely. Not quite directly in that way. But, I can remember being a very young child and there was, this stuff this, like, spooks me out. Like, it gives me that, uncomfortable,

Anxious feeling in my chest is bringing up. Type shit. Well, I know. I mean, it was I remember being a little boy, like, you know, 4 years old, 3 years old, or whatever. And there was a man who,

had gotten caught keeping a young boy prisoner,

and he had gone to jail but gotten back out. And, like, he was in our vicinity. Like, he wasn't our landlord, but he, like, would be, you know and so I was somehow aware of him, you know, and then when he was a horrible, nasty pervert.

And,

the more I looked back on all of it and looked at it, it's like a lot of that kind of stuff was going on. That was just the really obvious thing. So it seemed really obvious that there was some kind

of typical incestuous cult behavior going on all around me in in various capacities. Sure. You know, and I came I have my doubts to what degree I came out of it unscathed, but I don't know. You know, I can just go with, hey. I made it. I'm okay. I don't know.

But

On top of that, in Rio Linda, California,

there was a place called Dyer's Lane, and Dyer's Lane was,

famously haunted.

I mean, still is, I'm sure. And it was also a place that the Ku Klux Klan famously,

held all their own rituals and sometimes lynchings, and there was magic Sigils and symbols on the trees and painted on the pavement. And, you know, like, the idea to go out there at night was just for verboten. You don't you don't do that. You know, you'll die. You know, they'll keep you. You'll it it'll be worse than death. They'll keep you. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And, I mean, and it wasn't fake. The Real Linda was absolutely established by old redneck, Peckerwoods and probably,

probably kkk,

you know, not Not nouveau, different Nazis or anything. Like, you know, they actually sent a you know, they used to do that. They used to go out and expand out And send their own missionary type groups

and, you know, Aletta

was famously

bigoted and I mean, I'm sure they still are. Rush Limbaugh used to use Real Linda California as the butt of a whole bunch of his jokes. Like, when he was trying to say something complicated,

He would say, and for you people listening in Rio Linda, California,

that's what this means. But he wouldn't do it once. He would do it over and over again. And what I mean? I was raised in Rio Linda, North Sacramento. Now North Sacramento, the neighborhood I was raised in is called Del Paso Heights, and the the nickname is DPH for deepest part of hell, And it's just straight. I'm sure it might be better now. I hope so for the people living there, but it's just straight,

projects. Like, I wouldn't if I got a flat tire on the freeway

and the only thing I could do is pull off into Del Paso Heights, I would drive on the rim, and I mean it. I would drive At a significant rate of speed on the rim and try to get anywhere

but pull into Del Paso Heights because you won't be okay. You know? So it was like Cabrinha Green back in the day Chicago, because that's that's the only place I can really say where literally there's one other there's no places in Milwaukee. I'm not afraid. Actually, I can't I can't believe I'm actually saying that because Milwaukee is crazy. There's it's No. But I understand what you mean. You under you it's a known known. You understand what it is. Yeah. There's one Cabrini Green was like that, and then they tore it all down and and it's Yeah. And they did that in North Sacramento too. They used to call it the front. And there used to be people gambling on the street drinking outside the liquor stores, and there was missions that were all closed up because they couldn't you know, they failed. And, and if you broke down and got a flat tire right there, well, you know, with a bunch of, black men all drinking,

You know, Mad Dog 2020 and got on playing crafts,

you're in danger. You know? But there's also times that they saved us and got us out of the neighborhood just like you were describing. I've literally been in that situation, you know, where my mom,

we get a flat tire, and we're, like, we're afraid we're gonna die because we're in the we're in the, They call it the front. You're in the front, and you get broke down. You're in trouble. And instead,

they recognize that we were in trouble, and some kind black people were like, we gotta get you guys out of here. Go, and they help us switch the car or they'd get us they literally walk us to the edge of the hood and get us because at least me and my friend, he's dead now. He got Shot breaking and entering, and he, went to prison when he was only 15 and came out a full blown white supremacist. You know? Like, he had swastika tattoos and everything. Be. Yeah. Yeah. And then I mean, because that's what you do. You color up in prison, and he was already colored up before he went anyway because his dad raised him that way. You know? They were rednecks. But he was my best friend when we were in junior high. When I left the state California.

He got in a fight. Him and his brother got in a fight with some other guys they were, lifting weights with,

and, they ended up, like, in a

A violent altercation with a gun and a lead pipe, and they ran away. And so that's how he ended up in prison for a long time. You know? And then later in life, he never cleaned up. You know? He got out of prison, but he could never get out of the institutionalized

violent white supremacist mindset. And he got caught breaking and entering, and somebody shot him to death in in north Northern California.

But,

The The 48 Laws of Power. My oh, good lord. It is. I mean, that's you know, I I have that book because sometimes you need to reference it to remember how some part of the world works. I don't wanna use it as a tool to Sick. Yeah. It's And and it's also, like, I can't remember when I was in a group home,

a couple years ago.

It was like they were bragging about that. Like and I was, like, well, behold a pale horse. This is, like, that's

you know? But we all know, like, take that with a grain of salt too. Like, that was one of, like, a a conspiracy book. Yeah. It's a legendary conspiracy book. Right? But it's not all

gospel. Right? No. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's a bunch of Everything is 80 80 to 90% truth and 10%

that Right. Resteering you almost always. You find real truth that you're in danger. Like I would even say 80 in in in in in in you know what I'm saying? But I mean, for the for the most part, Yeah. I mean, the the really good stuff is. Right? You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But if you were to be a horse, I would even say 50%.

Probably not. Yeah. It's probably not even. I loved William Cooper, and he taught me so much stuff, but I don't trust him. I think he was probably an agent, unfortunately. He did a lot of move on. He messed up. Unknowing. You know what I mean? Like, an an unknowing agent. Even deep. Yeah. Who knows? Who knows? Un unwitting, they call it. Unwitting agent. It's a bit that way. Yeah. Yeah.

It feel that feels and sounds right. It just feels right when you read especially when you dive into that. Go ahead, Gordon. Sorry.

I was just gonna say I

that's the thing is

he's interpreting what he's being Show. Yes. Exactly. Yeah. Think about the agents around him.

Because

whatever he's

been given or Or had access to. He's putting those

those dots together just like we do. Yep. And that Itself is an interpretation which becomes the idea of whatever that Right. Yeah. That's almost always wrong when you find out the real truth in in any situation. Right? Know, you're you're close but no cigar. It's like it's a shade of ripe, but it's not right. And I'm just I'm not talking about discovering the And that's what keeps us spinning. Scarcity. Yeah. In the Kentucky, is that the story to you? Always

know. I think so. Oh, it could be. Oh, I see what you're gonna do. Bob Lazar was

Involved in a larp, and he was showing some things. Could very well be. How he was able to leak it out.

Some of it was true. Some of it wasn't. And then it was, like, up the bottom bizarre

to spread that information that he believed in his heart of heart was True. Because why would he Why wouldn't he? Yeah. Exactly. And, I mean So then he was put in that position. I was Yeah. I think that's what happened to Bill Court too. Yeah. Absolutely. Did they do something similar to you, or you didn't know everything that was going on? Right.

Absolutely.

There are They're well, they've they've got us all doing it to each other all the time now. They've changed their strategy to they've upgraded the strategy. So now we're all Making everybody into half winning agents all the time just by trying to enjoy figuring it out. You know? Right. Just by having fun With this mental gymnastics connecting these dots. Yeah. It's a it's an exercise. It's fun. Right? But it's also go ahead. I have to keep that, like, even my memory

Check that because I don't know what That's why Alan's sitting here taking notes because he doesn't have any cases of what's gonna happen next, being correct. You have to have reference material like Memento.

Yeah. The separate it doesn't have any issues. It's just living in 2021.

Exactly. Because she's just being erased as we speak right now. It's it's the thing I'm talking about. It's it's wild. I'm not saying I love going. I love that Alan has has one of those brains that he can do that.

I can't do that. Like, if I obsess on No. Me neither. I can't. It'll drive me mad if I burn even stuff. If I go crazy.

Yeah. Because I went

I used to go down those holes, man, and it wasn't healthy.

Like, because chapel perilous. You're you're in chapel every freaking you know what I mean? Around every corner, you end up, oh, shit. I'm so far down that rabbit hole that

it's just Well and then, you know, I'm already down that rabbit hole, and then I get What I sent you, Barsky

Mhmm. I get that happens.

And my paranoia went,

Man, I Exactly. It was not healthy mentally. Right. Knowing down a bad road. Now there's times I've laid off this shit for 5 years straight because I realized if had information that I'm holding digitally, physically. I'd burn it and not tell anyone. Thank you. And so and I don't do that anymore.

You know, just to be clear, I don't I don't seek out that kind of information, and I certainly don't save it. But there was a time when I did, you know. I mean, really, I plan.

It is. And because I mean and it's still the same categories we were just talking about. Whatever I found,

isn't necessarily 100

an infallible truth by any means, but it was a lot of clues to things that are not available anywhere on the Internet now. And there's a reason that some things actually consistently get Scrubbed and that if you continue to pursue them, that you might get scrubbed. I mean, and we've unfortunately seen it with our own eyes. And and I'm not just talking about only one person. A variety of people have vanished,

either died and or just vanished over the years

or changed

into someone completely 180

degrees opposite of who they were.

And, you know, like, Dave Chappelle's a pretty glaring example.

You know? That's not Dave. You know? I don't I don't have any faith that that's Dave. And if it is Dave, it's still not Dave. It's Dave from yeah. It's not the Dave from before. His DNA doesn't mean anything to be. They They changed his psyche and his soul. They did something

It's it yeah. And and, yeah, and that's where yeah. Like, the clone thing is fun, But the same thing is, like, yeah. I totally get where that is,

because I've observed it myself. I listened to Midnight Miracle.

And, also, I've seen his I mean, I've seen him live. He was just at the Bucks game the other night. You know what I'm saying? Like, I still can't help love it's like I don't throw the baby out the bathwater. I never will. I still love his his work.

It goes back to Elvis Presley. Right? Elvis Presley had a twin. He's born a Twin. So there's 2 Elvis

Presleys.

Okay. Yeah. Oh, you just reminded me something I'm gonna drop. I'm dropping the chair.

Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen, twin girls played 1 girl, Michelle,

in Full House.

A lot of these,

Shall we call them actors of a lifetime

variety lifetime actor variety?

These sort of people will if they're if they're born a twin, and then they're

they're good to go. We got 2 or 3 of these already born, and then we establish them as One public identity.

Right? This is this is history.

They do this with kings and everywhere. Yeah. I know. This that's that's the other thing is that people you know, if you just read,

Victor Hugo and

The who's the Milano gentleman that wrote such good books too? I can't think of his name. Alexandre Dumas. Mhmm. You just read those people's books, especially the ones that aren't the most Popular ones, but even the most popular ones and just fail to imagine that they're made up stories at all. That these are people that are in the click of the aristocracy

and they are They have permission

or access in such a way that they're allowed to publish it and make it into a beautiful, dramatized,

profitable

story. And that they're just telling you the truth except for meeting the details that will get anyone to lose their fortune or their reputation. You know? And it's nothing different now. Right. But, you know, I think they'll make Biden look like he's wearing a mask or it even is someone under a mask. Because they know that some of us are looking for the evidence of his skin

Pinching right here in an obscene strange way that doesn't seem right. And so then we could run with it, and we can be like, oh, man. Then, you know, then you start to if you're like me waste So much time on that too. Yeah. Well, then you get that desire in your heart that someone would would tackle them and pull it off so you can see who it is. Right? That's the that's the secret thing that no one talks about it. Now you wanna see. Wanna see. I wanna know. You know? Yeah. There are so many narrative conspiracy

opportunities

that are posted to, you know, Reddit specifically,

Our conspiracy and all the major mainstream conspiracy forums

are seeded

with

dumb conspiracies,

Celebrity gossip And have been and have been from the beginning. Yeah. Have have been before the Internet that the conspiracy dialogue was already seeded In paper Yes. And people like Bill Cooper was he was, you know, he was so proud that Bill Clinton called him the most dangerous man in America because he was doing all of this with shortwave radio Before it was broadcast over, you know, what we used to call DARPA.

Yeah. You know?

The

the social networks were always managed and made it this way through the aristocracy

and the banking houses

to protect their relationships.

And that they found the best way to do is to entertain everyone with intrigue and convolution and not to just have to go out and murder or poison or kill or imprison all of them because it's really A lot of work. We're a ready people, all of us. And if you really bring the fight to us, eventually, you know, if you put my grandma in front of me, yeah, I'm gonna fight back forever. I'm gonna get people to help me. You know, we're gonna bring it to you. What if you just give me some, you know,

some peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and a PlayStation?

I'll probably just kick it, man.

Amen. Yeah. I'll give you give you some killer sativa. Yeah. Let me up with that. Log in to your bloody matter. Minecraft server, and I'll be Gone for the next week, man. Yeah. You're having fellowship. Promise me some chocolate chip cookies that, you know, that they come with my cheeseburgers. Let me get that chocolate chocolate chip, bro. I'll show up late to the stream because I was busy watching a sports game.

Live and die, baby. You know it. Hey. I don't don't think Go into the I'm going to the have any problem with anybody being at the parade. I will be at the parade. I'll livestream from the parade. I was a die hard 49ers fan for so long that when the 49ers finally lost their dynasty,

It took me 3 years to realize that I was every Sunday making myself miserably depressed to the point of actual suicidal ideation, and I finally quit watching football to save myself. Yeah. Y'all killed us too. Y'all killed the Packers for many years too. I know. Yeah. I'm proud of you. We finally got y'all.

I know. Yeah. It it it Now it's fresh nail in my heart for a long time. Yeah. Man, that was rough.

Because it's more than ever athletic and organically

solved by Athletes comparing their skill and ability to win a game,

or was it always just like they I don't think so. I think it it is in the is for when people are having fun, and it's not really competition. It's beautiful. Yeah. But it's it's when when it's conscribed into a game, it's always just a betting match. Someone's making a bet. Exactly. It's Betting. Precisely. It is for betting. Yes. You're exactly right. And and really it's not for the bet on the game. It's for the proposition bets that are generated by the game bets. Yeah. And that's why you become a degenerate gambler because now you're betting on drops of window running down a windshield at 3 o'clock in the morning while you're high on crack. Exactly. And you just bet $50,000

that you won at the casino a week before, and you lose it all. Now you have to go back to the poker table with a dollar and start over to get back to where you were. You know? Mhmm. Hey. Have you guys seen that that,

show? I think it's called the Home Game on Netflix where they have that Italian

thing that they do every 4 years.

And Uh-uh. Sounds interesting. No.

It's this crazy ass game Where

it's like

capture the flag

and MMA

Alright. Soccer,

MMA at the same time. It's the craziest sport ever,

but there's all this gambling going on. Yeah. It sounds great. No. I've never heard of it. It sounds great. Gambling fun. But it's it's it's

They do it at Passover or some religious day, and it has to do with the church.

And I can't remember what it's called, but it's The church is like super involved in it and what

happens

is like each italian neighborhoods

in this

I can't remember what City it's in, but It's probably it's probably, it's probably in on,

Naples or something. Naples. Yeah. It's gotta be Naples. Naples is the most crooked. So crooked. Like, they can't even get the garbage picked up, dude. It's insane. Like, it's just run by it's it's nuts. They And it's mafia. Yeah. It's all run by yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And, like, you could

anyway, this thing is like an ancient game, and they've been doing it for 100 of years.

It's a it's a priests come in, and they do, like, a whole ceremony around the it's it's total, like, craft work.

It's a great band. What's up?

Johnny's in the house. What's up, Johnny?

He said you're hallucinating there, Jordan.

Hello. I got hooked up. I went to okay. I'm gonna I'm gonna drop something here. What's up, Johnny?

Technically, this is for Alan, and I'm gonna drop it in the YouTube chat, I think. Do it. But it's it's for all of you guys too, but this is a a lady I found through you guys know the astrologer, Lavette?

She said she calls herself an alchemical astrologer. She's an interesting older lady.

Does she channel that one

No. She doesn't do any channeling. She's very smart and careful about the way She practices all of her stuff. She's not

I would say that, it's very likely, in my opinion, that she is practicing almost Exclusively what we would call, sympathetic magic.

And very you know what? The way you described drawing a tarot card to me is very much just Cheetering on the edge of sympathetic magic. Okay. I'm gonna get something, but I'm not gonna insist that this give me something.

You know?

But I'm gonna drop this link

Just for you guys, because, you said something about Elvis and his twin,

status and how a lot of people don't even know that. You know, that Is Did the twin died? The twin died? Did yeah. I heard that. No. That's what they told us. I wasn't there, so I'm not sure.

But This lady's got syncs off the chart with Elvis and all kinds of other things, and she's just another interesting,

I call these people, alchemical astrologers because they use

sidereal astrology, but they don't use it in really any of the ways that other people do. The lady Levett calls it, you know, using the middle pillar astrology instead of using the sun or the moon astrology, and I find it fascinating. I'd like to learn more about it. Side side side side side side side side Hemisphere. Right? Astro So what it, what it is is actually using the

the position that the stars arrive on the horizon. So What they claim is that they actually use

the real positions of the stars in real time. But if you look at the different sidereal Schools, that's not there's only a few of them, and they're really trying to technically do that. And then other ones still divide the sky up into pieces of pie. So they are still using

The stars as they appear in the sky more accurately than,

tropical astrology. Tropical astrology is way off. I mean, it's like the record skipped Fucking that's about 10000 years ago, and we're like, nah. But we're still looking at it as if. You know? And so it's it's fascinating to me because Some people theorize that tropical astrology really is just an system

and that it really doesn't represent what it claims to represent because of those facts that it's not tracking the sky the way

you know? But all of that falls apart when you start looking at flat earth models and real cosmology

models and and,

I mean, we'd have to

get and agree on something like the most basic and accurate model of the Skye just to examine it, and it would be challenging. You know, like, we don't have

the resources we need, in my opinion. Like, we could try to do it, like, with Trail cams and webcams pointed at the sky and

today who will just work with computer algorithms and software and just, like, Type it into their database, print it out, and then send it to a client, and then read it to them, and it's all done automatically.

Yeah.

$175,

and I'll send you a reading. And, you know, and it's it's not this this this is do that for you that it would be automated

through that. It's just referencing the simulacra. Exactly. Not it's not referencing any reality. Yeah. And that's why I mean, even Lavette uses the star modeling programs quite a bit. I don't remember which one she uses. I just can't think of the name of it. And, in the flat earth group that, I was most active in, which is a very different model and style of, understanding of the flat earth than anything else you really see,

we found a lot of those,

star model apps and stuff to be mostly accurate but then severely inaccurate in certain areas. And especially in really key things like where the wandering stars are, you know, where is Venus at a particular time, where is the moon at a particular time, and the app says the moon's Here and you go over outside and the moon's not. It's like way over here or, you know, like, things like that. We we identified it

as, different people individually and posted screen captures about it over and over again that looks like it's not it's not quite right. And they know. They know. It's not like like you know how it is you you hit the app up and you're like, hey, guys. We found a a glitch. But It's not a glitch. They're they're not level software is never going to give you the accurate Yeah.

Answer. I mean, that's We need to all become astrologers and start watching the sky and trust each other to actually accurately record the sky and then to database it all and compare notes. Yes. Even weather not gonna happen? Weather data. Weather data has become very much a huge industry because if there's been Yeah. An insurance report because there's a storm in an Yeah. That's right. The insurance company needs needs to verify that based off of actual weather

data when a person makes a claim of an act of God or something. Yeah. If if your insurance for your house doesn't include flood insurance and then you pay extra

for flood insurance,

That sort of thing. So the insurance companies are going to do everything they can deny

the claim. And if they have the information on actual weather reports,

Historical weather reports

to match against your claim. They can say, well, no. You're lying. Right. They can take you on a claim of authority to court and say that you lose because, you know, the weather data stands up even though it doesn't. You know? Correct. Because they're insurance companies. And there's anything incarnate in the world that actually represents Satan himself, it's insurance as a whole. Yes.

Collect premiums and never ever ever pay claims Including up up to and including

women, children, and disabled people dying and every other horrible thing you could possibly imagine. And that's just that's just the tip of the iceberg, not alone Not if you start to look at the fraud. If you guys are gonna freak yourselves out, then look up insurance reserve fraud sometime.

But don't Tell tell anybody I told you about it. It's the most horrible, weird practice, and, I mean, that was that was some of that information that I I realized, like, I need to get away from all this stuff. Right. Remember that lady,

who was down there in Florida, and she was on life support, and her husband was trying to let her Die, by taking the feeding tube out. I can't remember her name. You guys remember? Terry Shavo.

Yeah. Shavo. That's it. Yep.

If you dig into that, behind all of that, the the way that mutual fund insurance stacks up and has Huge, huge,

reams of money sitting there that's supposed to be saved to be paid out.

You can get power of attorney and things to happen in such a way That it appears that you've signed off and taken a settlement and it's all said and done, but, technically, it's not. And then people can still have control of that power of attorney in that account and be using that as money

laundering, you know, black ops type stuff. And then, you know, you don't you don't wanna dig too far into it. I'm not gonna say a whole bunch more Because it's the kind of shit that if you if you're naive and you start trying to really look at it, you could get in trouble very easily because it's a really big racket of bad shit. You know? You can find a little bit about it on the Internet, but I wouldn't I wouldn't dive into it deep because insurance reserve fraud's scary. It's it's a trip.

But that's just if they're doing if you can find evidence of that, then that means there's cockroaches all over the place. Right? There's there's not one thing that we found. Lavette link that were promising us? Yeah. Yeah. I didn't. I put I put it in YouTube chat. You want me to put it over here too? I can put it over here too.

I didn't. Let's make sure we I'll just drop it in,

regular chat

here so that you guys just have it. Okay. Yeah. There it is. I mean, I I linked a specific video, but I would recommend her channel. And I've only watched a few videos, but she's uncanny and cool and trippy and you know?

And, you you know, you guys will all get it because it's up our alley. It's, you know, it's got synchronic vibes and

Mhmm. But what seems like a bunch of really outrageous

Stupid nonsense that actually can't be explained in very many other ways other than, hey. This is like some kind of

Supernatural

influence over our world that's causing things to align in such a way to bring us messages. You know?

That's what I'm all about.

I don't think it showed up in the YouTube chat. I'll drop it again here. I'll do my old fashioned trick and drop it 3 times on top of each other so it's obvious.

That works.

The name of the video is Elvis Needle Father Son Holy Ghost part 1 On crystal

dash

time

channel.

It's spelled t y m e. That was the thing that made it hard for me to find it because said it out loud in her she said, you know, she recommended these channels as people

that, are offering

Middle pass,

what she's calling alchemical astrology readings because she does them, but she's way backed up. You know, this Lavette lady is, like, Probably a year out. She won't even accept new people to get a reading right now because she has so many she's supposed to fulfill. So she recommends, like, 2 or 3 other people. Like, these people are good. So I went to check it out because sometimes they'll have videos that explain it enough that you can start, you know, I'm sure I could pick this apart if I really dedicated time, But I'd like I'd like to understand it better, and I've been working on it a little bit here and there. And, you know, buying a reading is one way that you could definitely get some insight. I considered it. I haven't bought a reading, but I like this lady. I might I might some days say screw it. Here's, you know, your $80 or whatever. Tell me about me, and please tell me also how you're doing this if you're willing give me any insight so I can start to do it myself at least in the most basic way.

Because Lavette speaks to me, man. That that lady Lavette just really speaks to me.

She's she's got something about her whole way

of doing things that it just you know, I've sent her,

small donations and letters.

She requested art one time, and I made her a piece of art and sent it to her just because I just appreciate her. She seems

like the real thing. She doesn't seemed like she's fronting her line. She's very humble. She's very kind. She's always insisting people to treat you know, treat go treat strangers kindly and do the right thing by everyone in the world and all that kind of stuff.

So I like it.

But it's also still completely over my head. If you go try to listen to Lavette, it's just like

Yeah. I had a 3 303 class.

That's what

astrology does for me. I, like, shut down. It's hard, man. I'm not very good at it. You know? I try, and at at a certain point, I'm like, nope.

Like, something shuts off. Yeah.

That's what happens to me too. And then I'm like, I don't understand. And that's what happens to me too, and then I'll pause it and come back to it later or something. Like, I get to that point where I'm just checking out, and it's like, okay. I'm still absorbing this on some subconscious level, but I'm not actively able to follow it anymore.

Yeah. I I figured it still does help because, you know, I start to memorize

The thing I I see, like, immersion with language.

Like, I've immersed myself in so much alchemy and astrology just in a random way That I pick up a lot of what people mean when they say, hey. The influence of Mercury or, you know, the influence of Jupiter or, you know, the influence of a day of the week and all these things. They start mean something over time so that I get this,

insight that I didn't have before, and I didn't do it by going and studying and studying and studying, trying to memorize it all. Just kept listening to it, and sometimes it's interesting enough. Sometimes it's completely over my head. But I keep picking up little pieces, and it it starts to make more and more sense. You know?

Right. I also find that process entertaining, so that really helps. You know? That that's what I'd describe as the self initiation.

You have to just stick with it,

And there's knowledge that will arrive

to you.

Yep. That's it. It's stenosis, man.

It's it's sort of the honest,

searching for

wisdom

and truth. Mhmm. And If you make that your prayer and your meditation

Mhmm. And that's what your life path will align with. Yep. Here, here, brother. Amen.

Be careful. Be careful at getting into that truth thing because

you if you go hard in your you

Really wanna change? The wisdom, the truth The wisdom. You figure out the truth in here. To the discernment to know

What notes you just take, you write down, and you put away. And Mhmm. You know, in in time, maybe mysteries will be revealed,

But more likely, you're gonna find more questions, and you'll write those questions down and just have to live with that clarity.

Live with not knowing.

Live with the uncertainty.

That's beautiful.

It is. That's, that's where it's at, man. That's the hardest thing in in the world to do, but it's also the most beneficial.

Mhmm.

Absolutely.

I'm noticing that,

they can't. You know? Like, I'm posting the link, and it's not dropping. Bing, like, now can you see any of my writing in the chat? Sorry to interrupt, guys. But Jim I Jim is I saw the the it looks like I'm shadow banned. Oh, there. The other stuff.

I see. I see a wrench. Let's try let's try this then here.

Rx only doesn't have a wrench, though.

So

links are probably automatically

Oh, that's true. Yeah. You need to give me a wrench over there. Added Bernays sauce. At Bernays sauce up there, I said search Crystal time, Elvis Needle, father, son, holy ghost part 1. So if you just copy and paste the text that I put in there and search it, it should show up. Cool.

Yeah. I don't have

a I don't have a I'm not in the,

the Weaving Spider's

account right now, so I can't give you a wrench.

No worries. It's okay. I just, I mean, I just wanted people to have the link because it was part of the flow, and it's fascinating to me. It said something new I found. So When when things are

in my mind, I'm just like, what's the nearest thing? A phone, telegram, throw it to a chat. And that's why Barsky was like, Go to bed. Go to bed. I said,

mama, just let me get this all out first. Yeah. It's like I don't have pen and paper or whatever. It's just

get it out. And if you guys can see it, you know, it's those are my notes. So maybe we talk about those

on the show later. Maybe we don't, but I just put them out there. I think there was something today that I was throwing in the telegram that the the weaving spiders welcome telegram.

I think I left some notes in there. I don't know. Didn't even know there was one of those. I need to add myself to that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You do, Sean. Definitely.

I'm in I'm liking

Telegram a lot more.

Yeah. I'm on a whole bunch of groups, but I just mute them all so then I almost never see them unless I go in there. Alright. Yeah. But, I mean, I want I wanna have access to the information, but I can't all those I already have so many notifications. It's stupid. You know? I really need to go and manage down my notifications on a lot of these apps so that I'm not getting

Onslaught. Yeah. I do I do that. Much a little deaf. You know? I do that with the Weaving Spiders,

group chat.

Oh, here it is on my phone. Here's the chat. And here's this blonde haired, blue eyed boy. Right? Do you know who this guy is?

Uh-uh. This blonde haired, blue eyed boy named

Oliver

Dayman

will be the youngest person ever to fly to space.

He's going with the Bozzo brothers to space as an 18 year old, blonde haired, blue eyed man, and his name is Damon? Oliver

Damon,

d a e m e n.

It says

Demon

was a participant in the auction and had secured a seat on the second flight. We moved him out when this seat on the first Flight became available.

A Blue Origin spokesperson told CNN Business, we're not disclosing how much he paid. A source familiar with the matter said, Demons

spot was purchased for him by his father,

Joe's

Demon,

who is the founder and CEO of Somerset

Capital

Partners, an investment firm in the Netherlands.

So Blue Origin is sending up an 18 year old blue

eyed, blonde haired boy

on their rocket ship. And I started thinking about, well, this name is really bizarre.

So Oliver, the name Oliver, o l I v e r, meaning true,

ancestral

relic,

meaning a true ancestral relic, like, of a certain bloodline

Or of a certain master race,

perhaps.

And his last name,

Daimon or Demon or Damon

is a guardian or supporter

for a place, person, group, or activity.

So this totally scientific business, this Blue Origin, Jeff, Amazon's company

is sending an 18 year old virginal blonde haired blue eyed boy

As their good luck charm on this, rocketship trip that they're gonna take?

So

in Latin,

Daemon or Daemon, d a e m o n, pronounced daemon, that's a tutelary

deity,

which is from the ancient Greek, Demon, meaning a dispenser.

Right? So literally, a true ancestral

relic, perfect gene specimen

dispensing

His jeans, his seed, his semen

on a Blue Origin Blue Balls

Rocketship flight. Right?

You got it.

Dun dun dun.

And and to pair it to pair it, they're having the youngest man

And

the oldest

woman

whose name is

Wally

Funk.

He's 82 years old.

Is this from The Onion?

Nope. No. I This is from CNN,

And this is all in the Weaving Spider's welcome

chat. So I see it. I see it in there. But this is There's Jeff Bezos,

And this is WALL E Funk, and they're going to space

in 2 days.

They're gonna fly up into space.

So this is In 2 days, they're doing this?

Yeah.

Well, let's have some fun. I'm starting to run out of steam here. This is getting late, but I'm gonna have Fine here. Let's go real quick.

So would you spell the young man's name again for me, please?

Oliver,

o

l I v e r.

Oh, I gotta get to the anagram. Just one moment, please.

So it's Oliver.

O l I v e? I v e r.

Deemon,

d a

e

m e n.

Okay. Let's see what we get for him first here.

So for

remedial oven,

Remained vol. I don't know what vol means.

It's like

a mole,

But it doesn't have a tail or it has a tail. It's like a tailed

mole.

Veil demeanor,

vile demeanor,

Evil demeanor.

Yeah.

Enamored veil.

Enamored vial.

Vial enamored.

Enamored live,

renamed olive,

lime endeavor.

Let's see.

Remove denial.

That's interesting. Remove denial. Hey. You guys wake up the space is fake yet? Did you remove your denial yet

with your Oliver demon?

I mean, obviously, this goes on That they it gave me 20,000

plus results. So, obviously, I'm not gonna read all of them. Right. Right. And

Avaned Morel

Avaned Morel.

That's true. That that's that's scary. Let's be clear. That's a penis shaped Shaped mushroom. It's a veined morel. It's a Veins. Okay. That was vain. So that's implying it's nice and hard. You know? It could fly if it had to. Right. We we we've we've been ripping on

Space and space tourism.

I say I say the opportunity. I say that's pretty good results for for that one. Now what was the the old lady's name, please? The crone? We've got the the the prince. What was the crone's name?

Wally Wally

w a l l y. Wally,

f

u n k. Yeah. It's spelled plain just like it sounds. WAVY phone. Yep. Oh, and now there's only Six answers. Now that's interesting. Right? We got 22,000 results, and believe me, that's not all of the results for that other man's name. That's just what this thing generated. This only has 6 answers.

Wall funky,

lawn fluky,

all like a a wood all,

funky,

Law Flunky.

There it is.

That's

right. Yall Flunk. Yall Flunk, y w a

y

a w l, flunk. Y'all flunk.

If you believe this shit, y'all flunk. Are you hear are you hearing me speak plainly to you now, right now, during the We've Inspires episode near the end of the show? Y'all flunk if you believe that this has anything to do with some Vacuum that does not exist outside of a sphere that does not fly, ladies and gentlemen. Please wake the fuck up. Okay? Thank you.

The last one was okay. Now the further I I didn't even notice this.

Walk fly new. That's the last one. Walk fly in you. New.

Tripping. Right? Straight tripping.

Man.

Now if we wanna take all of this stuff that we just if we just Take 10 or 20 of out of the other one and take these, and we wanna run them all into the numerology calculators. We can go over all the way to Christmas. You know?

Stuff never never ends. Send them all to Marty Leads and be like, bro, would you help me over?

Hey. Fix this.

Fill in all these holes, would you?

Fix it.

Mary Wallace. Mary Wallace Funk. Yeah. Okay. That's that's interesting. But this Oliver

Demon?

So she had a a more full name.

Yeah. Her her nickname is Wally Funk. Right. But in the headlines for all the stories

Yeah. It says Wally Funk. Wally Funk.

Yeah.

And it makes me think of a stinky fish too, you know, walleye funk. Yes.

I was thinking some somebody,

in the back of P Funk, like, dressed as a robot.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Exactly. Oh. He's a he's a he's a member of of the Funkadelic that we all envy enough that we would take his job if we could. I'll be Wally Funk. Yeah. I'll be walking along. Oh, hell yeah, man.

Get get up and stand in a diaper

and do heroin.

I'm in.

Rainbow braids in your hair and smoke some crack. So there you are. I'm processing the chat now. I posted the archive link to the Jeff Bezos flight with the 18 year old, Oliver Demon.

It's from CNN.

Oliver.

You'll yeah. So if you wanted to said that, Alan, I thought all of her, like, her entire demon.

That that's part of it too. Because it's a it's a new Shepard rocket.

Yeah.

Now, sheeping

fleecing the sheep who wanna go space tourism.

Yeah. There's

how much they're they're they're supposedly bidding

unseen amounts of money to be able to go

Land.

Yeah. They're just doing weightless gravity. Right. Exactly. They're just doing a vomit comet for billions. You know? Yep. Yep.

Incredible.

Scam.

And I think I think the better special effects, fake fakeness and all the illusions. The better ones are all done in the

deep underwater rigs that really move, I think. I think they've got

Torsion and velocity

underwater that really creates this, this illusion of water floating, the water, Staying in the air longer and appearing to be weightless. I think I think that there's

stuff there that you can't you can get footage of all the vomit comet stuff because it's kinda more of the basic bitch shit. But if you start looking at some of the footage of what they're doing with submarines and experimenting

and then correlate that to the dive Pools that coincidentally have the identical rocket or, I mean, you know, space station stuff in there. And you put it together that if they have underneath their

machinery, whatever it is, you know, whether it's motors or whether it's a big mechanical thing, that under deepwater where the entire

The the whole architecture of how physics works has changed in a way that we're we're not allowed to know. We don't really know what happens. We're not down there.

And it moves and does stuff.

And so then you get these effects because you're you're playing

space effects. It has to deal with changing

In consciousness

is what they're doing. Yeah. Is is Jodie Foster in the movie Contact?

Yeah. The Contact just gives the whole thing away. Yeah. And I, oh, I wanted to tell you guys. I forgot I was gonna talk about this, and I know it's getting late.

But, we went to the IMAX last night and watched Black Widow, I highly recommend that if you have opportunity to go see it in the theater to go do it, not because it's just a good movie, which it is. It's a pretty damn good, comic book movie, but It is absolutely steeped in all of the most

in vogue

conspiracy

stuff in a very subtle and articulate way. And, I don't wanna say more than that because, I mean, it's new enough that if people are watching this, they could screw it up, you know, and I'm not trying to be a spoiler jerk. You know, if it was 2 years old, I wouldn't care. I just blurred it all out. But worth it if you can afford it and you have the time to go check it out because

guys, like you guys and people listening to this show, You'll you'll see and understand and perceive and enjoy a movie on a level that, it just you know, other people aren't seeing it because they just don't know. They're not they're not nerds like this doing this weird stuff.

It's a trip. I'd be I'm almost tempted to go and watch it twice in the IMAX theater, which is unheard of. I don't do that. Gonna the IMAX twice for the same movie. That's just stupid.

But it's a trip, and that Black Widow movie is far out. It's funny too. It's it's really well made comedy at the same time. It's really funny.

Like, they do a good job of switching gears

between it being a really serious, like, action adventure comic book movie and then Fading it off into, like, some light hearted funny comedy. Did you guys watch the Ragnarok

movie? Love it. My favorite.

Yeah. So the Ragnarok is, like, they went completely almost slapstick over the top of the comedy, and a lot of people really didn't like it. You know? Like, I I enjoyed it, but I was like, wow. They really They didn't, like, pull into seriousness hardly at all. It was just, like, goofy. Like, even at the very end,

right, you know, Hulk is Trying to attack Hella or whatever the demon that, you know, she manifests. And they're like, dude, you gotta stop. World's over. We gotta get out of here. You know? Like Like, it's pretty corny. But they have that vibe in this Black Widow movie, but they also draw it back into dead serious action adventure

comic book

Plot. And then as the plot lightens up and the violence goes away and the action goes away, it gets really, really funny, like, deeply, intellectually, and articulately funny. And it goes back to being dead serious and, like, you have to go do the mission again. I was impressed, you know. I really I'm very critical of movies. I don't really like movies.

A watch party view.

Loki

on Disney plus. No. God. It's terrible, man. It's absolutely atrocious.

Yeah.

I hate it.

It's it's like it's trying to be Doctor Who when

when Doctor Who was cool.

But Oh, well, that sounds scary. Yeah. It's a little rough.

All that stuff Netflix and Disney Plus to me, it's like if you had to get,

bootleg garbage pail kids cards

And you were into it, you know, like, to me, that's like like, if they're not even real Garbage Pail Kids cards, I don't want them. And I probably don't want you know? Because that's how I see they they produce all that stuff so fast. They're chunking it out. I I can imagine years, there's a new generation of 13 year olds who

No nothing.

And then they tune into Disney Plus, and it's brand new to them. Yeah. I mean, I understand. That that's too bad that,

It's too bad that we have to not only watch, them feed the children physical garbage, but also,

psychic garbage too. There you go. Bear witness to it.

And then how we have to also overhear them talking about it on the bus or standing at

the corner of the street, you know,

about how great it is. Was bad enough when they thought Green Day was good. I don't know what to think about it. That's great. So it's a egg great exit. That's a great exit. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna head to bed. Yeah. Yeah. I think I could do it. Good to Yeah. I was glad to meet you. We'll we'll get on to you too, Gerdie. Nice to meet you. Nice to might finally to you a little bit more, Alan. Maybe we'll jump on a phone call sometime or something. So much more. This is just, the beginning

of of

Long,

awaited, faithful

moment. Oh, it's gonna go absolutely insane. I just needed to get some strength and energy back, and now I need to get organized. We're gonna, I mean, I if I have a reputation for being anything, it's stubborn.

Mhmm.

You know? I have had people randomly attacking me, but I'm I I find it Humorous at best.

You know? Well, you're publicly on the record showing your face, not afraid of anything.

If anybody else is out in the shadows hiding behind

anonymity,

well, you know

Yeah. Hi. Here we are. Hi. I go by my name. I'm SB Alger.

Yeah. Join us join us on camera. Even when the police were looking for us, everybody else had a code name in the radio and say it's It's this guy and that guy with the code names, and I think it's Sean Alger too. You know? He's with them too. So it's not it's not it was no different when I was in actual mortal danger. You know? So

Yeah. I I I wasn't scared of it either, unfortunately. I think something's wrong with me, but that's okay. Yeah. Probably.

Jim knows. Jim Jim and I are coach friends for a reason. Don't forget He's exactly the same way. Don't let him fool you by being quiet and introverted sometimes.

Don't don't tell him.

Alright. Good night, guys. Yeah. Have a good night. Or what? We're supposed to say alright, goodbye, or alright, bye. Yeah. Alright. Bye. Alright. Yeah. Alright. Bye.

What? Green Day some more. Come on.

Hey, Sean. Before we go, I have I have one question that I usually ask people. Sure. And what's what's your favorite Christian band? And you don't have to answer this right away.

Okay. Striper, hands down, striper. I used to have a I used to have a denim

Jacket with the striper patch on the back where it was like stripes, we are healed. Yeah. Yeah.

I was trying to think now favorite song, I'd have to go look because I

I haven't listened to Striper, but I went to, like I never saw Striper live, but I saw Petra.

Petra, the Spin's

Rock. We got Yeah. I mean system.

Stand in the gap. Yep. Yep. And, you know, there was more. I just don't remember any of it because once you get away from that stuff, it's just like any other really bad brainwashing

You go, oh, crap. I should probably avoid that from now on.

Hey. Do you wanna know what my favorite song is?

Yes.

Nice.

I swear, mister crack spider.

Mister crack spider. The active ingredients in marijuana.

Alright. I guess I gotta turn

The king spider, king spider, the crab.

The spider can go with a 100%

of the web. The spider

Found the mate. I've raised over a 100 young, but the mate got a restraining order. And now the spider Can't go within a 100 centimeters of the web. The spider built a web.

Found a mate, and raise the web. It built a hammock.

This it is done. It capped in its ass.

When came up behind it and popped it capped in its ass.

Wait until the captain's eyes was exhausted. He muck behind it. Pop the captain's eyes. The captain's ass.

Then came up behind it and popped the captain's ass. The captain's ass.

Then came up behind it until

weaving spiders webs