Unraveling the Weaving Spiders: A Digital Mystery
Weaving Spiders: The Art of Digital Rituals
Exploring the Enigma of Weaving Spiders
The Lost Legacy of the Weaving Spiders
Weaving Spiders: A Journey into Digital Esoterica
In this episode, we delve into the enigmatic world of the Weaving Spiders, a mysterious livestream project that blends performance art with occult practices. We explore their use of media as a form of ritual, creating a hyper sigil through their streams. The Weaving Spiders' approach is intentional and deliberate, using a mix of everyday topics, deep esoterica, and humor to engage their audience. Their anonymity and the disappearance of many of their episodes add to their mystique, leaving behind a legacy that feels like a ghost in the digital machine.
We also examine the symbolism behind their name, "Weaving Spiders Come Not Here," which has roots in Shakespeare and Freemasonry, and how it ties into their broader themes of creativity, connection, and control. The episode unpacks the group's potential use of numerology and symbolism in their livestream titles, suggesting a deeper, possibly magical intent behind their work. As digital archaeologists, we piece together the fragments of their lost culture, pondering the impact and intentions of this unique online phenomenon.
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(00:00) Introduction to Weaving Spiders
(01:46) Origins and Esoteric Meanings
(07:02) The Legend of the Weaving Spiders
(09:00) Media Magic and Hyper Sigils
(16:40) Immanentizing the Eschaton
(20:01) Symbolism and Secret Societies
(27:32) Podcasting and Esoteric Discussions
(35:07) Analyzing Episode Titles and Themes
(43:05) Concluding Thoughts on Weaving Spiders
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Unknown:
What are the key takeaways about the Weaving Spiders? Well, it seems pretty clear they weren't just messing around online. That media magic hyper sigil art project idea feels genuine. They had a deliberate intentional approach. Yeah. Using their streams as performance art, as ritual almost.
[00:00:18] Unknown:
Warning. The stunts and illusions performed on this program were designed and tested by High Guy, a highly trained delusional. The following production of We Live in Your Mind, the following conjecture intended for entertainment mostly. Statements made in this program do not represent the views or opinions of weaving spiders' webs. Viewer discretion is not supervised. Statements made in this program are not legal or medical advice. Judith Barsky Meet Me at Applebee's. Do not eat the appetizers. They are for your amusement only. Remember to banish with laughter. Weaving spiders live forever in your mind. All rights reserved. All wrongs reversed.
Judith Parks can meet me at Apple's. Warning, the stunts and illusions performed on this program were designed and tested by HYDAC. The phrase weaving spiders come not here has deep occult, literary, and masonic ties. Here's the breakdown of its origins and esoteric meanings. One, origin, Shakespeare, and Freemasonry. The line comes from Shakespeare's Midsummer Night's Dream, act two, scene two, where Oberon warns, weaving spiders, come not here hence, you long legged spinners hence, it's a command to keep spiders and their webs away from a sacred fairy ritual space. Adoption. The phrase was later adopted by Freemasonry (eighteenth nineteenth century) as a symbolic warning to avoid weaving webs of political intrigue at Gaza, or divisive talk within Masonic lodges.
Weaving and spiders suggest the connection to spiders creating webs, which is a form of weaving. Welcome could imply an invitation or a greeting, possibly referencing a web, as in a spider's web, that welcomes visitors. WSW in the filename might stand for weaving spiders welcome, forming an acronym. It could be a metaphorical or artistic representation of spiders and their webs, symbolizing creativity, connection, or entrapment. The phrase might be part of a larger concept, such as a brand name, a piece of poetry, or an Internet culture reference. Webb is in the World Wide Web. The term noodle brain could pin at a playful, whimsical, or abstract art. This screenshot appears to be a cryptic disclaimer or title card associated with Weaving Spider's Webse channel are artistic endeavor with esoteric, ironic, or subversive undertones.
Here's a breakdown of its elements and possible meanings, key themes, and analysis. We Live In Your Mind suggests psychological manipulation, memetic influence, or a meta commentary on media consumption, e. G, ideas parasitizing the viewer's thoughts, could not do occult concepts, e. G, egregores, thought forms, or horror tropes, e. G, viral consciousness. Disclaimers and irony to legalistic warnings, not medical advice. Viewer discretion is not supervised or darkly humorous parody incorporates You language. While undermining all wrongs reverse statements do not represent the views of weaving spiders' webs implies the content is a chaotic, a rogue output, distancing the creators from accountability.
Judith Barsky meeting at Applebee's possible ARG tie in, a surreal, personal directive that feels like a coded message or inside joke. Cultural jab. Applebee's as an mundane setting contrasts with the occult tone, mocking, synchronistic conspiracy culture where trivial details are over interpreted. Occult masonic nods, moving spiders webs echoes the masonic phrase moving spiders come not here as previously discussed, but here it's reclaimed embracing the web as a tool of control or art. All wrongs reverse averts the classic copyright line, hinting at antinomians, rejecting norms, or chaos magic principles.
Speculative context. This could be from a YouTube video podcast exploring conspiracy theories, occult humor, or or surreal fiction, an art project critiquing media disclaimers, and Bureaupasican, a satirical meme channel blending esoterica with absurdism, e. G. The sun vanished meets local 58 inches. Why it's intriguing, the tone balances paranoia, comedy, and occultism a hallmark of Internet age mysticism, e. G, the background is Twin Peaks fanficars. The juxtaposition of legal jargon with phrases like we live in your mind feels both threatening and plaguing. WSW is a work of fiction.
Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, or actual events is purely coincidental. High Guy is a witness, and Blurry Guy is an anonymous contributor to the Weaving Spiders program. The Weaving Spiders program is not funded in part or whole by US, AID, BlackRock, Soros, or other NGOs, but may be enhanced through artificial intelligence. This speaking voice may believe that all lawyers are liars and is not a legal entity. This disclaimer disclaimer may not apply to all listeners equally. A coupon disclaimer that addresses not monetary value clarifies that the coupon's purpose is to provide a discount or other benefit, but not to be redeemed for cash are its equivalent.
Essentially, it prevents the coupon from being treated like currency. May you enjoy your time trapped in the web. And now, for our feature presentation.
[00:06:43] Unknown:
Weaving spiders. Weaving spiders. Welcome to weed with me. You are welcome to weed with me. Welcome. You're welcome to weave with me.
[00:07:00] Unknown:
Welcome to the deep dive. Today, we're, plunging into something really fascinating, the legend of the weaving spiders. Yeah. It's a name that might not, you know, be instantly recognizable to everyone now. Right. But it keeps popping up in certain corners of the Internet, whispers about this really influential, original force.
[00:07:22] Unknown:
Almost like uncovering a hidden ancestor, wouldn't you say? Especially in that whole occult, synchronistic podcasting world. Exactly. The original livestream that apparently loads of others tried to imitate,
[00:07:34] Unknown:
but its own story is now, well, mostly lost. Very mysterious.
[00:07:38] Unknown:
And that's what makes it so compelling, I think, that enigma. Yeah. No clear leader, hosts totally anonymous. And now so many of their streams, their actual episodes, just gone,
[00:07:49] Unknown:
vanished. It's like finding, I don't know, fragments of some lost digital culture. You can tell it left a mark, but putting the whole picture together is getting harder and harder. Which is kind of our job today, isn't it? We're like digital archaeologists. Totally. And we've got some really interesting fragments to work with. What have we got? Okay. So there are these research notes someone compiled trying to figure out their purpose, lots of mentions of WSW and file names and stuff. WSW. Okay. Descriptions of their logo, which sounds pretty wild. Interpretations of that phrase, weaving spiders come not here.
Yes. That one. And a huge list of livestream titles, plus, thankfully, some actual descriptions of specific episodes that somehow survived.
[00:08:29] Unknown:
Okay. So that's quite a bit to go on, actually. It is. So our mission really for this deep dive is to sift through all these pieces. Yeah. What can these remnants actually tell us about the weaving spiders? What were they trying to do? And what clues do we have about their, like, impact
[00:08:46] Unknown:
even if it's kind of faded now within this specific online scene? It's a proper Internet detective story uncovering lost media. Okay. Let's start unpacking it then. The research notes we have, they define spiders in this context Yeah. As a cult initiates. Right. And the Weaving Spiders, the group itself. As their media magic hyper sigil art project with the live streams being their,
[00:09:08] Unknown:
performance art. That's quite a statement straight off the bat. It really is, isn't it? But it's like a key piece. They weren't just chatting online. No. They saw what they were doing as an occult practice, deliberately weaving a hypersyndial.
[00:09:22] Unknown:
Which is like a complex magical
[00:09:24] Unknown:
symbol or idea. Right? Mhmm. But brought into being through the streams themselves. Exactly. A dynamic thing, not static. The performance art bit just highlights that it was intentional, aimed at an audience. They clearly got the power of media. Using it to shape perception, maybe? Could be. Creating this evolving magical effect through the very act of streaming week after week, perhaps. And this this sense of intention,
[00:09:49] Unknown:
it gets stronger when you look at the disclaimers in the notes. Yeah. They're pretty odd. Oh, yeah. Like what? Well, they flat out state WSW is fictional. They name a high guy as a witness and a blurry guy as an anonymous contributor. Okay. So adding layers of anonymity and maybe misdirection. Seems like it. Then there's this weird denial of funding specifically not from The US, AID, BlackRock, SROs, or other, NGOs. Right. Common bogeymen in some circles. But then they add, it was potentially enhanced by AI.
[00:10:18] Unknown:
Ah, okay. That's fascinating. That mix of, like, ancient occult ideas and really modern tech, even hinting at AI involvement.
[00:10:28] Unknown:
It suggests a very contemporary take on magic, doesn't it? Lay off. Engaging with the digital age, maybe even critiquing it. Definitely.
[00:10:35] Unknown:
You can also see when they do the name aid symbology that it is the as above so below what you see with the baphomet symbol. As above so below.
[00:10:49] Unknown:
And now let's meet our celebrity guest. We have a lovely star. Six six six. Who could be seen every Saturday. And so I give him a six six six. We bring you an act. We'll
[00:11:13] Unknown:
I'm from Sanchez speaking. What we're witnessing today is the last days of what some call the alpha male, for lack of better words, meaning the strong image of a masculine man. As above so below. The world has changed and is all the serving agenda as above Soberloaf. Now when you look at the whipping, what you're looking at is a Baphomet Richard. She mail. Go. She male. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. She male. Go. Not not not not not y'all. The world has changed and is all the serving agenda. Now when you look at the dance, what you're looking at is a battle of man bridging.
It's neither male nor female. She male calling. Image of a man was so hard. We are left in the gender. They're blurring the sex line.
[00:12:47] Unknown:
This dance.
[00:12:49] Unknown:
Balfour, mensi. The symbology that they have no idea what's to a question mark. Okay? Back in the day, the guys used to rap like this to rap like that. You know, rap like this to rap like that. You know, rap like that. You know, rap like that. You know, rap like that. You know, rap like that. You know, rap like that. Now back to this whipping.
[00:13:54] Unknown:
So
[00:14:09] Unknown:
Go. And now let's meet our celebrity guest. We have a lovely star. 666. You could be seen every Saturday. And so I give them a 666. We bring you an act. Good first may shock you. Shock you, six six six.
[00:14:26] Unknown:
But once you get the hell off, 666,
[00:14:30] Unknown:
it'll just boggle your mind.
[00:14:36] Unknown:
Bizarre. It's all part of the performance, maybe? Maybe. And then the sign off?
[00:14:40] Unknown:
Wow. It's just pure Internet weirdness. Go on. May you enjoy your time trapped in the web. And now for our future presentation, Judith Barsky met me at Applebee's, and the waitress was a spider. Okay. Wow.
[00:14:52] Unknown:
Trapped in the Web obviously plays on the whole spider thing, their online presence being this network. Right. The Judith Barsky line. That's surreal. Almost dreamlike. Blurring mundane stuff like Applebee's with the totally bizarre. And the waitress being a spider just brings that central theme crashing into focus in a really unexpected way. Yeah. Very memorable. Very strange. The notes also mention an Arachne project
[00:15:14] Unknown:
and an Ariadne act, and they link these to this big goal, the freedom of the minds of all men. Okay. Arachne and Ariadne,
[00:15:22] Unknown:
Greek mythology. Strong female figures associated with weaving and navigating mazes, respectively. So Arachne, the weaver who challenged Athena, a symbol of artistry, maybe hubris. Could be. And Ariadne gave Theseus the thread to escape the labyrinth. So together,
[00:15:39] Unknown:
it suggests a project about liberation, freedom, maybe through knowledge or art or their specific way of weaving ideas. It certainly points towards a deeper motivation. Yeah. Liberation of the mind seems key. The notes also say, the spell was cast as the dice was rolled and rocked.
[00:15:55] Unknown:
Ritualistic
[00:15:56] Unknown:
language. Yeah. Chance and intention combined. Seems like it. And that their music and visuals were meant to hypnotize and create a hypnagogic state of suggestibility
[00:16:05] Unknown:
for the listener to become their very best self. Ah, the hypnagogic state. That borderline state between waking and sleeping.
[00:16:11] Unknown:
Yeah. And they apparently use numerology and geometria
[00:16:14] Unknown:
a plenty. Okay. So definitely deliberate techniques. Using sensory input music, visuals to induce a specific mental state. That's classic esoteric practice.
[00:16:24] Unknown:
And the numerology, the mystical numbers and geometry,
[00:16:28] Unknown:
it just reinforces the occult foundation, doesn't it? Absolutely. It suggests they weren't just winging it. They were likely using specific symbols, maybe timing things carefully, all to actively influence the listener's consciousness.
[00:16:41] Unknown:
And it seems like all this effort, all this ritual was aimed at one huge goal. Each livestream acts as a magic ritual of mimetic energy
[00:16:50] Unknown:
to imminentize the eschaton. Right. That phrase, imminentize the eschaton, it needs unpacking. Yeah. Fully. It sounds intense. It is. It comes from political theory, theology, often used critically, actually, about trying to bring about heaven on earth or the end times right now in our world. So the notes define imminent ties as making something really real in our world. Uh-huh. And the Eschaton is, like, a future golden age or maybe more metaphorically,
[00:17:14] Unknown:
a revolution, the end of an era. So putting it together,
[00:17:18] Unknown:
they saw their streams as what? Magical activism.
[00:17:21] Unknown:
Seems like it. Trying to cause some huge societal shift through ideas, through culture,
[00:17:26] Unknown:
through mimetic energy. That looks like the core idea. Yeah. Active rituals,
[00:17:31] Unknown:
broadcast online, aiming to shift collective consciousness, bring about a new age, however they picture that age. The notes mentioned Chrystalt Thierry's Echaton 9,000 photo series too. So there was a visual side to this concept as well. Right. Reinforcing
[00:17:45] Unknown:
that multimedia aspect of their particular
[00:17:48] Unknown:
brand of magic. It wasn't just talk. Okay. Let's shift to that weaving spiders welcome thing. We have notes on an image file, noodle brained w s w dot p n g. Noodle brained. Okay. Yeah. Anyway, the image apparently showed weaving, spiders, and welcome stacked up. Up. And the guess is that w s w in the filename means weaving spiders welcome.
[00:18:09] Unknown:
Seems logical. What about the look of the words? Really specific descriptions.
[00:18:12] Unknown:
Weaving was sleek, angular, holographic distortion, like high-tech, maybe glitchy. Spiders use circuit board letters, but with gaps. So Yeah. Techie, but also kind of broken or organic, maybe linked to that AI or nanobot idea. Could be. Bridging the natural and artificial again, and welcome. That was neon script with a scan line effect, like old TV screens, very cyberpunk
[00:18:38] Unknown:
underground feel. Wow. So a really distinct visual identity. Yeah. The nose even sum it up. Up. Picture a Blade Runner street sign infected by a rogue AI spider. That's a heck of an image. Really captures that blend of a cult digital, natural, artificial.
[00:18:53] Unknown:
It seems central to them. Totally. And, apparently, there were variations,
[00:18:57] Unknown:
variations, animated spiders, matrix screens, scratched metal textures. So not static, fluid, adaptable, multifaceted.
[00:19:03] Unknown:
Yeah. But here's the weird thing. Yeah. Despite all this effort, this imagery, the notes say the actual Weaving Spiders podcast or stream isn't widely known today. Which just deepens the puzzle, doesn't it? What was the point of a name like that then? Literal spiders, metaphors? Well, literally, yes. Spiders and webs. Okay. Metaphorically, the note suggests things like entanglement, networks online, social, maybe even manipulation, being caught in a web. Or cultural stuff
[00:19:28] Unknown:
like Anansi the spider trickster or just the world wide web itself. Could be any of those.
[00:19:34] Unknown:
And given their occult side, side, maybe those esoteric knowledge networks,
[00:19:38] Unknown:
secret societies using web imagery. It's a rich name. The notes even brainstormed what it could mean for a new project today. Oh, yeah. Like a horror anthology about entrapment.
[00:19:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Or a tech critical show about the dark side of the web or even a creative writing thing focusing on complex stories. Shows how versatile the name is, I guess. Maybe that was the point. To mean different things to different people. Quite possibly. Resonating on multiple levels. Okay. Now what about that other phrase? Weaving spiders come not here. Where does that come from? Shakespeare, apparently. A Midsummer Night's Dream.
[00:20:10] Unknown:
It's a line to keep spiders out of the fairy queen's sacred space. Okay. But it got picked up elsewhere. Yeah. Freemasonry adopted it it as a kind of warning within lodges. Against what? Against weaving webs of intrigue, gossip, disruption. Spiders symbolize people causing trouble, basically. What a manipulator.
[00:20:27] Unknown:
Right. And in general, occult symbolism, spiders are pretty loaded figures, aren't they? Oh, absolutely. Creator, destroyer, fate, illusion, cosmic order.
[00:20:36] Unknown:
They represent a lot, often contradictory things. And the web itself,
[00:20:40] Unknown:
a metaphor for destiny
[00:20:42] Unknown:
or illusion. Both. Sometimes link to the feminine divine too, light and dark. Think the Norns and Norse myth or Arachne again. The notes mentioned the web as an occult network idea too. Secret societies, Crowley talking about spiders in the abyss. Yeah. That connection feels strong here. Maybe weaving spiders was their term for people manipulating things within those hidden networks. And the phrase pops up more recently too. Illuminati conspiracies,
[00:21:06] Unknown:
Wicca, paganism,
[00:21:08] Unknown:
often tied to weaver goddesses. So it's got layers of history, layers of meaning, but the core idea seems to be about keeping deceit, chaos, intrigue out of a specific space, protecting order or sanctity. So for the Weaving Spiders group, to use a froze warning against Weaving Spiders Yeah. It implies their own project was meant to be different, not deceitful. That's a strong possibility. Maybe they saw themselves as providing genuine insight or building a different kind of web, a constructive one within the digital chaos.
[00:21:38] Unknown:
Let's look at the livestream titles now. There are a lot of them. The notes mentioned their YouTube channel, Weaving Spider's Webs, had over a 50 videos. Wow. But only about a thousand subscribers. Yes. Suggest it was long running, dedicated, but maybe always pretty niche. Makes sense. And the dates on the titles? They range from something listed as 1980 s'more, which sounds like a joke, up to 01/01/2025.
[00:22:03] Unknown:
So a significant span of time. They're around for a while, evolving presumably.
[00:22:06] Unknown:
Looking at the titles themselves, you see patterns, keywords, flow state comes up a few times, numbers like 02/1977. Occult stuff too. Yeah. Occult, Rosycross, Lamestides. But then you get these totally random, almost humorous ones, like, lubricious g l o u p spider pillars of wisdom. Chuckles. Okay. That's memorable. Right. And loads of pop culture references scattered throughout. Things like Jules four I y l or Not Your Grandparents Paranormal Conspiracy.
[00:22:33] Unknown:
It's just so eclectic, isn't it? Such a mix. Serious occult stuff, weird humor, pop culture.
[00:22:40] Unknown:
Suggest they had broad interests. Maybe it was a deliberate strategy, mixing it up to be accessible or just give it their own weird flavor. Could be. And the pop culture shows they weren't totally cut off. They were engaging with the wider world. Some titles clearly mentioned guests or specific topics too, like Zax Sabala, The Universe and You or, Jerry Marzynski, Amazing Journey Into the Psychotic Mind. Interesting. And even David Icke, Love Triangle.
[00:23:08] Unknown:
Sounds a bit gossipy. So they weren't just talking amongst themselves, they were bringing in other voices, other perspectives. Yeah. It implies a community or at least a network
[00:23:17] Unknown:
around these kinds of, unconventional topics. The guest list adds another layer to the whole phenomenon. Definitely. Shows the breadth of what they covered. Okay. So now we get to the actual episode descriptions. These give us a real peek inside. The one from 06/08/2024. The range is just staggering. What did it cover? Everything. Casual chat, memories, travel, camping, music, photos, vegan food, mushrooms, alpacas. Okay. So everyday life stuff. Yeah. But then also, mental health, celebrities, Hollywood, politics, text impact, education, history, societal norms, cultural decline, control, historical injustices, media influence, body image, self control, manipulation art, AI, social media, corporate policies, advertising, even Etsy and Instagram.
[00:24:03] Unknown:
Wow. That sounds incredibly stream of consciousness, almost unfiltered.
[00:24:07] Unknown:
It does suggest that even within their, like, occult framework Mhmm. A lot of the content was very grounded, personal, weaving the mundane with the weird. Maybe that was the point. Make the big ideas relatable, find the magic in the everyday. Could be. Then there's the redhead conspiracy DNA mysteries and genetic defects episode, another wild mix. That's like a conspiracy. It apparently jumped from nude Olympics to redhead genetics and cultural meaning, history of slavery, AI deepfakes. Quite the leap. Discussions about someone named Peter Kawaja and disinformation, women in the workforce, organic farming, old comedy shows. The time stamps provided really show how they segmented these totally different topics. It's that juxtaposition
[00:24:44] Unknown:
again, isn't it? Frivolous next to serious, conspiracy next to history, very provocative, unpredictable.
[00:24:52] Unknown:
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[00:24:58] Unknown:
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[00:25:17] Unknown:
Some kind of, human robot interaction skills. I,
[00:25:24] Unknown:
I Mom, can't think of time to say holy smokes.
[00:25:33] Unknown:
This is an uprising against smug elites. Smug elites. So they're the villains, and the opposite is America because America is now one big day disco. Oh, doom.
[00:25:49] Unknown:
At Orleans to discover,
[00:25:52] Unknown:
which makes the idea of a person. Is
[00:25:55] Unknown:
Barack Obama gay? There is so little we know about this man.
[00:26:03] Unknown:
Welcome. Fantisexuals. Enjoy your gay biscuit. Watch Weaving Spider Welcome on Saturdays.
[00:26:21] Unknown:
And mentioning Peter Kuwaja suggests they weren't afraid of controversial figures or topics. No. Clearly not. Those time stamps must be gold for understanding the structure, the flow. It mentions starting with welcome and weaving spider's webs. Yeah. Then moving to Saturday night feature presentation and mysterious theories, kind of easing into the heavier stuff maybe. Possibly.
[00:26:40] Unknown:
Or just showing how they connected seemingly unrelated things. Then the episode with Steve Poikhanen.
[00:26:46] Unknown:
Again, all over the place. Live streaming quirks, politics, media, alternative platforms, the Trump assassination attempt, trans athletes. And personal stuff too. Oh, yeah. Steve's stories about black helicopters and peacocks, plus mentions of his own shows, AM Wake Up and Slow Newsday, other podcasters like Balderson, Jam, Chain, Sean Alger,
[00:27:06] Unknown:
even A Foyered Cat, and the Deliberating Dog Face Dudes podcast. It really paints a picture of a connected, conversational, maybe slightly chaotic scene, moving fluidly between big political
[00:27:18] Unknown:
issues and really specific odd anecdotes. Yeah. The time stamps show they jumped into politics before properly introducing Steve, suggesting it was very live, very responsive. Fostering that sense of community around shared
[00:27:30] Unknown:
sometimes weird interests, connecting on different levels. The 07/27/2024
[00:27:35] Unknown:
episode, the returning guest, The Melt, seems more focused maybe, more explicitly esoteric and political. What did they cover? Podcasting itself, ancient texts, modern gender issues, referencing doctor Ammon Hillman's work on Greek texts, alchemy, the occult, impacts of feminism, trans rights, Olympic symbolism, predator spray dynamics. Okay. So definitely diving into some heavy potentially sensitive topics there. And the notes mentioned rock fin links for both the melt and weaving spider's webs and an episode page link. So they were active on those alternative platforms. Right. Rock fin often hosts more independent, sometimes contrarian voices,
[00:28:13] Unknown:
fits the picture.
[00:28:14] Unknown:
The return of the melt suggests ongoing dialogues too. The time stamps show after intros and text setup, they went right into controversial topics with the guest. No beating around the bush. Engaging directly with complex, potentially divisive issues. And maybe the most surreal one is 05/06/2023, also with the melt. Apparently, it started with gravy. Gravy. Yeah. Gravy, which somehow led into psychedelics, mental health first conspiracy, AI sex dolls, human relationships, trauma, integrity, and the coronation of King Charles. Oh, last. Okay. From gravy to King Charles via AI sex dolls, that's something else. Isn't it? The notes mentioned YouTube and Rockfin links again. It just perfectly captures that bizarre, unpredictable vibe,
[00:28:59] Unknown:
mundane to profound and topical, all jumbled up. That stream of consciousness thing again, maybe that's what resonated, making these unexpected connections that you wouldn't find elsewhere. So after digging through all this, these digital bread crumbs, what are the key takeaways about the Weaving Spiders? Well, it seems pretty clear they weren't just messing around online. That media magic hyper sigil art project idea feels genuine. They had a deliberate, intentional approach. Yeah. Using their streams as performance art, as ritual almost. And the sheer range of topics, everyday stuff, deep esoterica politics, weird humor woven together in those unexpected ways, that feels unique. Maybe even pioneering for that early online, a cult synchronistic scene. Blending the serious with the silly, the profound with the profane almost. Exactly. And that likely created their very specific appeal.
[00:29:51] Unknown:
The mystery around the hosts, the facts so much is lost now. It just ramps up the legend, doesn't it? Makes them feel like this fleeting influential ghost in the machine. It really does. Like a half remembered dream that somehow shaped what came later. And their audience, even if relatively small by today's standards, was clearly dedicated. People save descriptions, titles. It shows they made an impact on those who found them. They definitely carved out a space for unconventional thinking, didn't they? Probably laid some groundwork for the podcast and communities that followed in that niche. It's amazing how much you can piece together from just fragments. Right. But it also makes you think. Yeah. What does this whole story, the lost archives, the new interest, what does it say about digital culture? How ephemeral it all is?
[00:30:34] Unknown:
Good point. And our fascination with the mysterious, the hidden, the
[00:30:39] Unknown:
slightly forbidden, maybe. Definitely. That's it. And it makes you wonder. What other lost digital stuff is out there? What are the forgotten corners of the Internet hold these kinds of stories just waiting for someone to dig them up? Judith Barsky Meet Me at Applebee's.
[00:30:57] Unknown:
They're listening in right now, but I gotta get a message to you somehow. So I'm a say it in code. The bread is in the toaster. In the toaster. I can't reveal our plans in a way way that they could understand. So I must say it in code. I'm varnishing the pterodactyl. Pterodactyl. Yeah. The enemy is tapping my phone. And only you can unlock the secret. So Judith, Judith, Judith, beat me at Applebee's. Beat me at Applebee's. That's right. Judith is your name as a spy to to keep you hidden from the FBI. And we will speak in code. The pandas are eating the bundt cakes.
Pandas. Pandas. Pandas. Pandas. You know what to do. So I ain't gonna spell it out for you. But let me say it in code. Put the bacon grease into the mailbox. Bacon grease. Wanted you to go with me to Applebee's.
[00:34:30] Unknown:
Welcome to the deep dive. Today, we are, plunging into something pretty peculiar. Definitely peculiar. We're talking about this livestream project, the Weaving Spiders. Exactly. And we've got this really interesting collection of their, well, their livestream titles, some notes someone took analyzing a possible logo, and even their disclaimers, which are, kind of unusual in themselves. It's strange mix, for sure. A compelling set of clues, you might say. Yeah. Clues is a good word. So our mission really is to try and make some sense of the patterns we're seeing, especially in these, episode titles, and also explore this big question about who's actually leading this group, if anyone. Right. And the first thing that really jumps out looking at the titles
[00:35:11] Unknown:
is this recurring element. You mean the hashtag w s w? Precisely. That hashtag w s w prefix, it's there at the start of well, almost every single title we have in our research notes. It's almost like a brand. A brand or a tag. And straight after that, there's usually a number. Right? Yes. A number. Yeah. And the sequence is interesting. It mostly seems to count downwards starting from something like hashtag w s w two six eight in our data. Mhmm. Mostly downwards. Mostly. Yeah. But there are these, anomalies, really significant jumps, like, suddenly leaping to hashtag w c seven seven seven. Woah. Okay. And even some overlaps, like seeing both a hashtag one ninety two and a one zero six, which seems odd if it's just a simple countdown. So not just a straightforward sequence. It makes you think about that mention in our notes, something about numerology. Exactly. The notes specifically say, with numerology and geometria aplenty.
[00:36:04] Unknown:
So it strongly suggests these numbers aren't just labels. They likely carry some specific intended meaning. Okay. So this hashtag w w thing, it's almost always there, like a signature. Almost always. But you mentioned exceptions. I saw things like happy new year, future plans, and just flow state, no number, no prefix in the usual way. That's right. And a couple actually started w as w shack, so the hash is after the letters. So the consistency is really strong, but then these little deviations pop up. What do you think those mean? A mistake?
[00:36:34] Unknown:
Something else? Well, the widespread use definitely makes hashtag w w feel like a core identifier for whatever the weaving spiders are putting out. It flags it as theirs. The exceptions, like flow state, maybe that signals a different type of stream, or maybe something outside the main sequence. Happy New Year seems self explanatory as a one off. In the WSW check, typo maybe? Could be. Or, you know, given how deliberate everything else seems, maybe it's a subtle variation, a different category. It's hard to say for sure, but worth noting.
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The bigger question is why have this prefix at all? Is it just filing, or is there something more to trust in itself? Yeah. We should probably circle back to that. But then, okay, you get past the hashtag w u and the number and the titles themselves. They're just wild. Oh, absolutely wild. I mean, listen to some of these. Lucretius g l o u p spider pillars of wisdom. Yeah. Right. Or Asgard's golden Germania occult rosy cross lawns. And, irreversible submersible stochastic eigongrau and electric boogaloo. It's just a word salad almost, but maybe not. It's definitely not your typical let's play Minecraft part five. Not quite. And our notes directly ask, you know, are these phrases hiding meanings? Is it some kind of code? What's your gut feeling on that? My first reaction is that this level of,
[00:37:49] Unknown:
seemingly random, often very bizarre phrasing has got to be intentional. It's too consistent in its strangeness. Intentional how though? Well, it could be a few things. Maybe it's deliberate obfuscation like making it hard for outsiders to casually understand what's going on, creates barrier. An in group thing. Yeah. Or perhaps it's a very specific internal language, like an inside joke blown up to cover everything. Yeah. But then you link it to what else is in our notes. You mean the imminentize the eschaton part? Exactly. The notes claim, each livestream
[00:38:21] Unknown:
acts as a magic ritual of mimetic energy to imminentize the eschaton. Okay. Let's unpack that slightly. Immanentize the eschaton basically means trying to, like, think about the end times or a utopian future right here, right now. Make it real. That's the gist. Yeah. Actively working to create some kind of massive societal transformation,
[00:38:40] Unknown:
often seen as a golden age. If that's the underlying goal Then these titles aren't just random. Then maybe these titles are part of that magic ritual. Maybe they're dense symbolic constructs, packed phrases designed to, you know, hit you on a different level, bypass your rational thought, mimetic energy, like the notes say.
[00:38:58] Unknown:
Language as a magical tool, essentially, shaping reality through these weird titles. It's a fascinating possibility.
[00:39:05] Unknown:
If you wanna shift consciousness or spark some kind of change, maybe you use language that works symbolically that resonates deeper than just its surface meaning. And the notes also mention
[00:39:16] Unknown:
a cult stuff, masonic symbols, the phrase, weaving spiders come not here. That seems to fit, suggesting there's a hidden, maybe esoteric layer to all this. All this. It definitely points towards a deliberate use of symbolism and potentially hidden meanings in their communication. It's not just random noise. Okay. So that's the titles. Weird, potentially coded, maybe even magical, but shifting focus slightly. Who are the weaving spider? Like, who's the we? Is there one host?
[00:39:44] Unknown:
A team? That's another really murky area. Our notes give us a couple of hints. They mentioned high guy is a witness and blurry guy is an anonymous contributor. Right. So at least two people involved.
[00:39:54] Unknown:
One maybe just watching, one contributing, but staying anonymous. But then complicating things, one of the actual livestream titles is hashtag w s w two twenty five, there is more than two guys here. Ah, so it's explicitly stating a larger group. That really throws out the simple idea of a single host or even just a duo.
[00:40:13] Unknown:
It points strongly towards a collective, maybe even a decentralized structure. The fact that they acknowledge multiple people, including someone deliberately anonymized as blurry guy, suggest they might be actively avoiding a single figurehead or leader. Why would they do that, do you think? Well, it could be part of their whole philosophy. If we go back to that immanentizing the echoten idea, maybe a leaderless collective approach fits with that, some kind of anti hierarchy ideal
[00:40:38] Unknown:
where the work, the message is more important than any one person. So the Weaving Spiders is the entity and not just the people behind it. The focus is on the collective project.
[00:40:48] Unknown:
That's how it feels. Yes. The output, the streams, the big detail impact seems primary rather than building up individual personalities. This ambiguity around who is actually speaking or creating could even be part of the mystique, keeps the focus on the weirdness perhaps.
[00:41:04] Unknown:
Interesting. And what about the logo mentioned in the
[00:41:06] Unknown:
notes? Weaving spiders welcome. Ah, yeah. The interpretation of a logo. The notes suggest the acronym could be w s w, which obviously fits the hashtag w w prefix perfectly.
[00:41:17] Unknown:
Weaving spiders welcome. W s w. Okay. That makes sense. Sense. And the themes weaving,
[00:41:22] Unknown:
spiders, well, they all kinda fit the general vibe. The notes also mentioned different styles for this logo concept. Sleek, glitchy circuit board, neon scanline. Suggesting maybe different facets or an evolving identity or maybe just different artists contributing? Could be any of those. It reinforces the idea of multifaceted project, not something monolithic controlled by one vision. It aligns with the collective idea. And then there are the disclaimers, like WSW is a work of fiction. Right. Which seems to contradict the whole imminentize the echaton thing, which sounds very real world focused.
[00:41:54] Unknown:
Exactly. And other odd ones about lawyers and funding, it feels like they're deliberately playing with ambiguity, maybe trying to provoke or perhaps cover themselves legally in a weird way. It adds yet another layer of what is actually going on here. It's intentionally confusing perhaps. Okay. So let's try and pull this together. We've got this really consistent hashtag w w tag, almost like a brand. Followed by numbers that aren't just sequential, hinting strongly at numerology. Then these incredibly bizarre cryptic titles full of weird juxtapositions
[00:42:25] Unknown:
and maybe, just maybe, a cult or symbolic meaning. Possibly linked to this grand idea of using the streams as rituals to change reality.
[00:42:35] Unknown:
Immananti is the Eschatan. And when we look for who's in charge, we find clues pointing away from a single leader towards a collective, maybe anonymous group. With a potential logo reinforcing the WSW identity and multiple styles hinting at complexity,
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and disclaimers that just add more questions.
[00:42:51] Unknown:
Right. So for you listening, seeking those quick but deep insights, hopefully, mapping out these strange elements, the titles, the numbers, the leadership question, gives you some of those moments even if the final picture is still,
[00:43:05] Unknown:
well, blurry. It definitely leaves us with more questions than answers in some ways, which leads to, I guess, a final thought to chew on. Cool. Well, considering all this stuff together, the occult references, the masonic nods like weaving spiders come not here, the goal of immanentizing the echaton, the weird titles, the numerology, the hidden creators Mhmm. Could this whole project be seen as something else? Like what? Like a deliberate large scale act of what some might call media magic. Could the entire output, the streams, the titles, the anonymity, could it all be constructed as a complex hyper sigil? A hyper sigil, you mean like a magical symbol or intention woven into a larger narrative or work? Exactly. Something created through language, symbols, collective action, even anonymous action designed to influence perception or maybe even nudge reality towards their desired echaton, their specific future.
[00:43:54] Unknown:
Wow. So the chaos is the point. The weirdness is the mechanism.
[00:43:58] Unknown:
Perhaps. It really forces you to think about how much power language and symbols can have, especially when used collectively and persistently. It makes you step back and really wonder what are the true intentions of the weaving spiders? What reality are they trying to weave? Definitely something to ponder. A strange journey into a very strange corner of the Internet.
[00:44:18] Unknown:
Please.
[00:44:19] Unknown:
You gotta help me. These spiders become every Saturday night, and they try to weave to my body. Please.
[00:44:30] Unknown:
I need help. I see. How do these spiders weave, how do you say, Every Saturday night? And what do they weave about? I can help you. Just tell me everything.
What are the key takeaways about the Weaving Spiders? Well, it seems pretty clear they weren't just messing around online. That media magic hyper sigil art project idea feels genuine. They had a deliberate intentional approach. Yeah. Using their streams as performance art, as ritual almost.
[00:00:18] Unknown:
Warning. The stunts and illusions performed on this program were designed and tested by High Guy, a highly trained delusional. The following production of We Live in Your Mind, the following conjecture intended for entertainment mostly. Statements made in this program do not represent the views or opinions of weaving spiders' webs. Viewer discretion is not supervised. Statements made in this program are not legal or medical advice. Judith Barsky Meet Me at Applebee's. Do not eat the appetizers. They are for your amusement only. Remember to banish with laughter. Weaving spiders live forever in your mind. All rights reserved. All wrongs reversed.
Judith Parks can meet me at Apple's. Warning, the stunts and illusions performed on this program were designed and tested by HYDAC. The phrase weaving spiders come not here has deep occult, literary, and masonic ties. Here's the breakdown of its origins and esoteric meanings. One, origin, Shakespeare, and Freemasonry. The line comes from Shakespeare's Midsummer Night's Dream, act two, scene two, where Oberon warns, weaving spiders, come not here hence, you long legged spinners hence, it's a command to keep spiders and their webs away from a sacred fairy ritual space. Adoption. The phrase was later adopted by Freemasonry (eighteenth nineteenth century) as a symbolic warning to avoid weaving webs of political intrigue at Gaza, or divisive talk within Masonic lodges.
Weaving and spiders suggest the connection to spiders creating webs, which is a form of weaving. Welcome could imply an invitation or a greeting, possibly referencing a web, as in a spider's web, that welcomes visitors. WSW in the filename might stand for weaving spiders welcome, forming an acronym. It could be a metaphorical or artistic representation of spiders and their webs, symbolizing creativity, connection, or entrapment. The phrase might be part of a larger concept, such as a brand name, a piece of poetry, or an Internet culture reference. Webb is in the World Wide Web. The term noodle brain could pin at a playful, whimsical, or abstract art. This screenshot appears to be a cryptic disclaimer or title card associated with Weaving Spider's Webse channel are artistic endeavor with esoteric, ironic, or subversive undertones.
Here's a breakdown of its elements and possible meanings, key themes, and analysis. We Live In Your Mind suggests psychological manipulation, memetic influence, or a meta commentary on media consumption, e. G, ideas parasitizing the viewer's thoughts, could not do occult concepts, e. G, egregores, thought forms, or horror tropes, e. G, viral consciousness. Disclaimers and irony to legalistic warnings, not medical advice. Viewer discretion is not supervised or darkly humorous parody incorporates You language. While undermining all wrongs reverse statements do not represent the views of weaving spiders' webs implies the content is a chaotic, a rogue output, distancing the creators from accountability.
Judith Barsky meeting at Applebee's possible ARG tie in, a surreal, personal directive that feels like a coded message or inside joke. Cultural jab. Applebee's as an mundane setting contrasts with the occult tone, mocking, synchronistic conspiracy culture where trivial details are over interpreted. Occult masonic nods, moving spiders webs echoes the masonic phrase moving spiders come not here as previously discussed, but here it's reclaimed embracing the web as a tool of control or art. All wrongs reverse averts the classic copyright line, hinting at antinomians, rejecting norms, or chaos magic principles.
Speculative context. This could be from a YouTube video podcast exploring conspiracy theories, occult humor, or or surreal fiction, an art project critiquing media disclaimers, and Bureaupasican, a satirical meme channel blending esoterica with absurdism, e. G. The sun vanished meets local 58 inches. Why it's intriguing, the tone balances paranoia, comedy, and occultism a hallmark of Internet age mysticism, e. G, the background is Twin Peaks fanficars. The juxtaposition of legal jargon with phrases like we live in your mind feels both threatening and plaguing. WSW is a work of fiction.
Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, or actual events is purely coincidental. High Guy is a witness, and Blurry Guy is an anonymous contributor to the Weaving Spiders program. The Weaving Spiders program is not funded in part or whole by US, AID, BlackRock, Soros, or other NGOs, but may be enhanced through artificial intelligence. This speaking voice may believe that all lawyers are liars and is not a legal entity. This disclaimer disclaimer may not apply to all listeners equally. A coupon disclaimer that addresses not monetary value clarifies that the coupon's purpose is to provide a discount or other benefit, but not to be redeemed for cash are its equivalent.
Essentially, it prevents the coupon from being treated like currency. May you enjoy your time trapped in the web. And now, for our feature presentation.
[00:06:43] Unknown:
Weaving spiders. Weaving spiders. Welcome to weed with me. You are welcome to weed with me. Welcome. You're welcome to weave with me.
[00:07:00] Unknown:
Welcome to the deep dive. Today, we're, plunging into something really fascinating, the legend of the weaving spiders. Yeah. It's a name that might not, you know, be instantly recognizable to everyone now. Right. But it keeps popping up in certain corners of the Internet, whispers about this really influential, original force.
[00:07:22] Unknown:
Almost like uncovering a hidden ancestor, wouldn't you say? Especially in that whole occult, synchronistic podcasting world. Exactly. The original livestream that apparently loads of others tried to imitate,
[00:07:34] Unknown:
but its own story is now, well, mostly lost. Very mysterious.
[00:07:38] Unknown:
And that's what makes it so compelling, I think, that enigma. Yeah. No clear leader, hosts totally anonymous. And now so many of their streams, their actual episodes, just gone,
[00:07:49] Unknown:
vanished. It's like finding, I don't know, fragments of some lost digital culture. You can tell it left a mark, but putting the whole picture together is getting harder and harder. Which is kind of our job today, isn't it? We're like digital archaeologists. Totally. And we've got some really interesting fragments to work with. What have we got? Okay. So there are these research notes someone compiled trying to figure out their purpose, lots of mentions of WSW and file names and stuff. WSW. Okay. Descriptions of their logo, which sounds pretty wild. Interpretations of that phrase, weaving spiders come not here.
Yes. That one. And a huge list of livestream titles, plus, thankfully, some actual descriptions of specific episodes that somehow survived.
[00:08:29] Unknown:
Okay. So that's quite a bit to go on, actually. It is. So our mission really for this deep dive is to sift through all these pieces. Yeah. What can these remnants actually tell us about the weaving spiders? What were they trying to do? And what clues do we have about their, like, impact
[00:08:46] Unknown:
even if it's kind of faded now within this specific online scene? It's a proper Internet detective story uncovering lost media. Okay. Let's start unpacking it then. The research notes we have, they define spiders in this context Yeah. As a cult initiates. Right. And the Weaving Spiders, the group itself. As their media magic hyper sigil art project with the live streams being their,
[00:09:08] Unknown:
performance art. That's quite a statement straight off the bat. It really is, isn't it? But it's like a key piece. They weren't just chatting online. No. They saw what they were doing as an occult practice, deliberately weaving a hypersyndial.
[00:09:22] Unknown:
Which is like a complex magical
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symbol or idea. Right? Mhmm. But brought into being through the streams themselves. Exactly. A dynamic thing, not static. The performance art bit just highlights that it was intentional, aimed at an audience. They clearly got the power of media. Using it to shape perception, maybe? Could be. Creating this evolving magical effect through the very act of streaming week after week, perhaps. And this this sense of intention,
[00:09:49] Unknown:
it gets stronger when you look at the disclaimers in the notes. Yeah. They're pretty odd. Oh, yeah. Like what? Well, they flat out state WSW is fictional. They name a high guy as a witness and a blurry guy as an anonymous contributor. Okay. So adding layers of anonymity and maybe misdirection. Seems like it. Then there's this weird denial of funding specifically not from The US, AID, BlackRock, SROs, or other, NGOs. Right. Common bogeymen in some circles. But then they add, it was potentially enhanced by AI.
[00:10:18] Unknown:
Ah, okay. That's fascinating. That mix of, like, ancient occult ideas and really modern tech, even hinting at AI involvement.
[00:10:28] Unknown:
It suggests a very contemporary take on magic, doesn't it? Lay off. Engaging with the digital age, maybe even critiquing it. Definitely.
[00:10:35] Unknown:
You can also see when they do the name aid symbology that it is the as above so below what you see with the baphomet symbol. As above so below.
[00:10:49] Unknown:
And now let's meet our celebrity guest. We have a lovely star. Six six six. Who could be seen every Saturday. And so I give him a six six six. We bring you an act. We'll
[00:11:13] Unknown:
I'm from Sanchez speaking. What we're witnessing today is the last days of what some call the alpha male, for lack of better words, meaning the strong image of a masculine man. As above so below. The world has changed and is all the serving agenda as above Soberloaf. Now when you look at the whipping, what you're looking at is a Baphomet Richard. She mail. Go. She male. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. She male. Go. Not not not not not y'all. The world has changed and is all the serving agenda. Now when you look at the dance, what you're looking at is a battle of man bridging.
It's neither male nor female. She male calling. Image of a man was so hard. We are left in the gender. They're blurring the sex line.
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This dance.
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Balfour, mensi. The symbology that they have no idea what's to a question mark. Okay? Back in the day, the guys used to rap like this to rap like that. You know, rap like this to rap like that. You know, rap like that. You know, rap like that. You know, rap like that. You know, rap like that. You know, rap like that. Now back to this whipping.
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So
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Go. And now let's meet our celebrity guest. We have a lovely star. 666. You could be seen every Saturday. And so I give them a 666. We bring you an act. Good first may shock you. Shock you, six six six.
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But once you get the hell off, 666,
[00:14:30] Unknown:
it'll just boggle your mind.
[00:14:36] Unknown:
Bizarre. It's all part of the performance, maybe? Maybe. And then the sign off?
[00:14:40] Unknown:
Wow. It's just pure Internet weirdness. Go on. May you enjoy your time trapped in the web. And now for our future presentation, Judith Barsky met me at Applebee's, and the waitress was a spider. Okay. Wow.
[00:14:52] Unknown:
Trapped in the Web obviously plays on the whole spider thing, their online presence being this network. Right. The Judith Barsky line. That's surreal. Almost dreamlike. Blurring mundane stuff like Applebee's with the totally bizarre. And the waitress being a spider just brings that central theme crashing into focus in a really unexpected way. Yeah. Very memorable. Very strange. The notes also mention an Arachne project
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and an Ariadne act, and they link these to this big goal, the freedom of the minds of all men. Okay. Arachne and Ariadne,
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Greek mythology. Strong female figures associated with weaving and navigating mazes, respectively. So Arachne, the weaver who challenged Athena, a symbol of artistry, maybe hubris. Could be. And Ariadne gave Theseus the thread to escape the labyrinth. So together,
[00:15:39] Unknown:
it suggests a project about liberation, freedom, maybe through knowledge or art or their specific way of weaving ideas. It certainly points towards a deeper motivation. Yeah. Liberation of the mind seems key. The notes also say, the spell was cast as the dice was rolled and rocked.
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Ritualistic
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language. Yeah. Chance and intention combined. Seems like it. And that their music and visuals were meant to hypnotize and create a hypnagogic state of suggestibility
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for the listener to become their very best self. Ah, the hypnagogic state. That borderline state between waking and sleeping.
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Yeah. And they apparently use numerology and geometria
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a plenty. Okay. So definitely deliberate techniques. Using sensory input music, visuals to induce a specific mental state. That's classic esoteric practice.
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And the numerology, the mystical numbers and geometry,
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it just reinforces the occult foundation, doesn't it? Absolutely. It suggests they weren't just winging it. They were likely using specific symbols, maybe timing things carefully, all to actively influence the listener's consciousness.
[00:16:41] Unknown:
And it seems like all this effort, all this ritual was aimed at one huge goal. Each livestream acts as a magic ritual of mimetic energy
[00:16:50] Unknown:
to imminentize the eschaton. Right. That phrase, imminentize the eschaton, it needs unpacking. Yeah. Fully. It sounds intense. It is. It comes from political theory, theology, often used critically, actually, about trying to bring about heaven on earth or the end times right now in our world. So the notes define imminent ties as making something really real in our world. Uh-huh. And the Eschaton is, like, a future golden age or maybe more metaphorically,
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a revolution, the end of an era. So putting it together,
[00:17:18] Unknown:
they saw their streams as what? Magical activism.
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Seems like it. Trying to cause some huge societal shift through ideas, through culture,
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through mimetic energy. That looks like the core idea. Yeah. Active rituals,
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broadcast online, aiming to shift collective consciousness, bring about a new age, however they picture that age. The notes mentioned Chrystalt Thierry's Echaton 9,000 photo series too. So there was a visual side to this concept as well. Right. Reinforcing
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that multimedia aspect of their particular
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brand of magic. It wasn't just talk. Okay. Let's shift to that weaving spiders welcome thing. We have notes on an image file, noodle brained w s w dot p n g. Noodle brained. Okay. Yeah. Anyway, the image apparently showed weaving, spiders, and welcome stacked up. Up. And the guess is that w s w in the filename means weaving spiders welcome.
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Seems logical. What about the look of the words? Really specific descriptions.
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Weaving was sleek, angular, holographic distortion, like high-tech, maybe glitchy. Spiders use circuit board letters, but with gaps. So Yeah. Techie, but also kind of broken or organic, maybe linked to that AI or nanobot idea. Could be. Bridging the natural and artificial again, and welcome. That was neon script with a scan line effect, like old TV screens, very cyberpunk
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underground feel. Wow. So a really distinct visual identity. Yeah. The nose even sum it up. Up. Picture a Blade Runner street sign infected by a rogue AI spider. That's a heck of an image. Really captures that blend of a cult digital, natural, artificial.
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It seems central to them. Totally. And, apparently, there were variations,
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variations, animated spiders, matrix screens, scratched metal textures. So not static, fluid, adaptable, multifaceted.
[00:19:03] Unknown:
Yeah. But here's the weird thing. Yeah. Despite all this effort, this imagery, the notes say the actual Weaving Spiders podcast or stream isn't widely known today. Which just deepens the puzzle, doesn't it? What was the point of a name like that then? Literal spiders, metaphors? Well, literally, yes. Spiders and webs. Okay. Metaphorically, the note suggests things like entanglement, networks online, social, maybe even manipulation, being caught in a web. Or cultural stuff
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like Anansi the spider trickster or just the world wide web itself. Could be any of those.
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And given their occult side, side, maybe those esoteric knowledge networks,
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secret societies using web imagery. It's a rich name. The notes even brainstormed what it could mean for a new project today. Oh, yeah. Like a horror anthology about entrapment.
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Yeah. Or a tech critical show about the dark side of the web or even a creative writing thing focusing on complex stories. Shows how versatile the name is, I guess. Maybe that was the point. To mean different things to different people. Quite possibly. Resonating on multiple levels. Okay. Now what about that other phrase? Weaving spiders come not here. Where does that come from? Shakespeare, apparently. A Midsummer Night's Dream.
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It's a line to keep spiders out of the fairy queen's sacred space. Okay. But it got picked up elsewhere. Yeah. Freemasonry adopted it it as a kind of warning within lodges. Against what? Against weaving webs of intrigue, gossip, disruption. Spiders symbolize people causing trouble, basically. What a manipulator.
[00:20:27] Unknown:
Right. And in general, occult symbolism, spiders are pretty loaded figures, aren't they? Oh, absolutely. Creator, destroyer, fate, illusion, cosmic order.
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They represent a lot, often contradictory things. And the web itself,
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a metaphor for destiny
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or illusion. Both. Sometimes link to the feminine divine too, light and dark. Think the Norns and Norse myth or Arachne again. The notes mentioned the web as an occult network idea too. Secret societies, Crowley talking about spiders in the abyss. Yeah. That connection feels strong here. Maybe weaving spiders was their term for people manipulating things within those hidden networks. And the phrase pops up more recently too. Illuminati conspiracies,
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Wicca, paganism,
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often tied to weaver goddesses. So it's got layers of history, layers of meaning, but the core idea seems to be about keeping deceit, chaos, intrigue out of a specific space, protecting order or sanctity. So for the Weaving Spiders group, to use a froze warning against Weaving Spiders Yeah. It implies their own project was meant to be different, not deceitful. That's a strong possibility. Maybe they saw themselves as providing genuine insight or building a different kind of web, a constructive one within the digital chaos.
[00:21:38] Unknown:
Let's look at the livestream titles now. There are a lot of them. The notes mentioned their YouTube channel, Weaving Spider's Webs, had over a 50 videos. Wow. But only about a thousand subscribers. Yes. Suggest it was long running, dedicated, but maybe always pretty niche. Makes sense. And the dates on the titles? They range from something listed as 1980 s'more, which sounds like a joke, up to 01/01/2025.
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So a significant span of time. They're around for a while, evolving presumably.
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Looking at the titles themselves, you see patterns, keywords, flow state comes up a few times, numbers like 02/1977. Occult stuff too. Yeah. Occult, Rosycross, Lamestides. But then you get these totally random, almost humorous ones, like, lubricious g l o u p spider pillars of wisdom. Chuckles. Okay. That's memorable. Right. And loads of pop culture references scattered throughout. Things like Jules four I y l or Not Your Grandparents Paranormal Conspiracy.
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It's just so eclectic, isn't it? Such a mix. Serious occult stuff, weird humor, pop culture.
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Suggest they had broad interests. Maybe it was a deliberate strategy, mixing it up to be accessible or just give it their own weird flavor. Could be. And the pop culture shows they weren't totally cut off. They were engaging with the wider world. Some titles clearly mentioned guests or specific topics too, like Zax Sabala, The Universe and You or, Jerry Marzynski, Amazing Journey Into the Psychotic Mind. Interesting. And even David Icke, Love Triangle.
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Sounds a bit gossipy. So they weren't just talking amongst themselves, they were bringing in other voices, other perspectives. Yeah. It implies a community or at least a network
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around these kinds of, unconventional topics. The guest list adds another layer to the whole phenomenon. Definitely. Shows the breadth of what they covered. Okay. So now we get to the actual episode descriptions. These give us a real peek inside. The one from 06/08/2024. The range is just staggering. What did it cover? Everything. Casual chat, memories, travel, camping, music, photos, vegan food, mushrooms, alpacas. Okay. So everyday life stuff. Yeah. But then also, mental health, celebrities, Hollywood, politics, text impact, education, history, societal norms, cultural decline, control, historical injustices, media influence, body image, self control, manipulation art, AI, social media, corporate policies, advertising, even Etsy and Instagram.
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Wow. That sounds incredibly stream of consciousness, almost unfiltered.
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It does suggest that even within their, like, occult framework Mhmm. A lot of the content was very grounded, personal, weaving the mundane with the weird. Maybe that was the point. Make the big ideas relatable, find the magic in the everyday. Could be. Then there's the redhead conspiracy DNA mysteries and genetic defects episode, another wild mix. That's like a conspiracy. It apparently jumped from nude Olympics to redhead genetics and cultural meaning, history of slavery, AI deepfakes. Quite the leap. Discussions about someone named Peter Kawaja and disinformation, women in the workforce, organic farming, old comedy shows. The time stamps provided really show how they segmented these totally different topics. It's that juxtaposition
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again, isn't it? Frivolous next to serious, conspiracy next to history, very provocative, unpredictable.
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Some kind of, human robot interaction skills. I,
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I Mom, can't think of time to say holy smokes.
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This is an uprising against smug elites. Smug elites. So they're the villains, and the opposite is America because America is now one big day disco. Oh, doom.
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At Orleans to discover,
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which makes the idea of a person. Is
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Barack Obama gay? There is so little we know about this man.
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Welcome. Fantisexuals. Enjoy your gay biscuit. Watch Weaving Spider Welcome on Saturdays.
[00:26:21] Unknown:
And mentioning Peter Kuwaja suggests they weren't afraid of controversial figures or topics. No. Clearly not. Those time stamps must be gold for understanding the structure, the flow. It mentions starting with welcome and weaving spider's webs. Yeah. Then moving to Saturday night feature presentation and mysterious theories, kind of easing into the heavier stuff maybe. Possibly.
[00:26:40] Unknown:
Or just showing how they connected seemingly unrelated things. Then the episode with Steve Poikhanen.
[00:26:46] Unknown:
Again, all over the place. Live streaming quirks, politics, media, alternative platforms, the Trump assassination attempt, trans athletes. And personal stuff too. Oh, yeah. Steve's stories about black helicopters and peacocks, plus mentions of his own shows, AM Wake Up and Slow Newsday, other podcasters like Balderson, Jam, Chain, Sean Alger,
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even A Foyered Cat, and the Deliberating Dog Face Dudes podcast. It really paints a picture of a connected, conversational, maybe slightly chaotic scene, moving fluidly between big political
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issues and really specific odd anecdotes. Yeah. The time stamps show they jumped into politics before properly introducing Steve, suggesting it was very live, very responsive. Fostering that sense of community around shared
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sometimes weird interests, connecting on different levels. The 07/27/2024
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episode, the returning guest, The Melt, seems more focused maybe, more explicitly esoteric and political. What did they cover? Podcasting itself, ancient texts, modern gender issues, referencing doctor Ammon Hillman's work on Greek texts, alchemy, the occult, impacts of feminism, trans rights, Olympic symbolism, predator spray dynamics. Okay. So definitely diving into some heavy potentially sensitive topics there. And the notes mentioned rock fin links for both the melt and weaving spider's webs and an episode page link. So they were active on those alternative platforms. Right. Rock fin often hosts more independent, sometimes contrarian voices,
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fits the picture.
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The return of the melt suggests ongoing dialogues too. The time stamps show after intros and text setup, they went right into controversial topics with the guest. No beating around the bush. Engaging directly with complex, potentially divisive issues. And maybe the most surreal one is 05/06/2023, also with the melt. Apparently, it started with gravy. Gravy. Yeah. Gravy, which somehow led into psychedelics, mental health first conspiracy, AI sex dolls, human relationships, trauma, integrity, and the coronation of King Charles. Oh, last. Okay. From gravy to King Charles via AI sex dolls, that's something else. Isn't it? The notes mentioned YouTube and Rockfin links again. It just perfectly captures that bizarre, unpredictable vibe,
[00:28:59] Unknown:
mundane to profound and topical, all jumbled up. That stream of consciousness thing again, maybe that's what resonated, making these unexpected connections that you wouldn't find elsewhere. So after digging through all this, these digital bread crumbs, what are the key takeaways about the Weaving Spiders? Well, it seems pretty clear they weren't just messing around online. That media magic hyper sigil art project idea feels genuine. They had a deliberate, intentional approach. Yeah. Using their streams as performance art, as ritual almost. And the sheer range of topics, everyday stuff, deep esoterica politics, weird humor woven together in those unexpected ways, that feels unique. Maybe even pioneering for that early online, a cult synchronistic scene. Blending the serious with the silly, the profound with the profane almost. Exactly. And that likely created their very specific appeal.
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The mystery around the hosts, the facts so much is lost now. It just ramps up the legend, doesn't it? Makes them feel like this fleeting influential ghost in the machine. It really does. Like a half remembered dream that somehow shaped what came later. And their audience, even if relatively small by today's standards, was clearly dedicated. People save descriptions, titles. It shows they made an impact on those who found them. They definitely carved out a space for unconventional thinking, didn't they? Probably laid some groundwork for the podcast and communities that followed in that niche. It's amazing how much you can piece together from just fragments. Right. But it also makes you think. Yeah. What does this whole story, the lost archives, the new interest, what does it say about digital culture? How ephemeral it all is?
[00:30:34] Unknown:
Good point. And our fascination with the mysterious, the hidden, the
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slightly forbidden, maybe. Definitely. That's it. And it makes you wonder. What other lost digital stuff is out there? What are the forgotten corners of the Internet hold these kinds of stories just waiting for someone to dig them up? Judith Barsky Meet Me at Applebee's.
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[00:34:30] Unknown:
Welcome to the deep dive. Today, we are, plunging into something pretty peculiar. Definitely peculiar. We're talking about this livestream project, the Weaving Spiders. Exactly. And we've got this really interesting collection of their, well, their livestream titles, some notes someone took analyzing a possible logo, and even their disclaimers, which are, kind of unusual in themselves. It's strange mix, for sure. A compelling set of clues, you might say. Yeah. Clues is a good word. So our mission really is to try and make some sense of the patterns we're seeing, especially in these, episode titles, and also explore this big question about who's actually leading this group, if anyone. Right. And the first thing that really jumps out looking at the titles
[00:35:11] Unknown:
is this recurring element. You mean the hashtag w s w? Precisely. That hashtag w s w prefix, it's there at the start of well, almost every single title we have in our research notes. It's almost like a brand. A brand or a tag. And straight after that, there's usually a number. Right? Yes. A number. Yeah. And the sequence is interesting. It mostly seems to count downwards starting from something like hashtag w s w two six eight in our data. Mhmm. Mostly downwards. Mostly. Yeah. But there are these, anomalies, really significant jumps, like, suddenly leaping to hashtag w c seven seven seven. Woah. Okay. And even some overlaps, like seeing both a hashtag one ninety two and a one zero six, which seems odd if it's just a simple countdown. So not just a straightforward sequence. It makes you think about that mention in our notes, something about numerology. Exactly. The notes specifically say, with numerology and geometria aplenty.
[00:36:04] Unknown:
So it strongly suggests these numbers aren't just labels. They likely carry some specific intended meaning. Okay. So this hashtag w w thing, it's almost always there, like a signature. Almost always. But you mentioned exceptions. I saw things like happy new year, future plans, and just flow state, no number, no prefix in the usual way. That's right. And a couple actually started w as w shack, so the hash is after the letters. So the consistency is really strong, but then these little deviations pop up. What do you think those mean? A mistake?
[00:36:34] Unknown:
Something else? Well, the widespread use definitely makes hashtag w w feel like a core identifier for whatever the weaving spiders are putting out. It flags it as theirs. The exceptions, like flow state, maybe that signals a different type of stream, or maybe something outside the main sequence. Happy New Year seems self explanatory as a one off. In the WSW check, typo maybe? Could be. Or, you know, given how deliberate everything else seems, maybe it's a subtle variation, a different category. It's hard to say for sure, but worth noting.
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The bigger question is why have this prefix at all? Is it just filing, or is there something more to trust in itself? Yeah. We should probably circle back to that. But then, okay, you get past the hashtag w u and the number and the titles themselves. They're just wild. Oh, absolutely wild. I mean, listen to some of these. Lucretius g l o u p spider pillars of wisdom. Yeah. Right. Or Asgard's golden Germania occult rosy cross lawns. And, irreversible submersible stochastic eigongrau and electric boogaloo. It's just a word salad almost, but maybe not. It's definitely not your typical let's play Minecraft part five. Not quite. And our notes directly ask, you know, are these phrases hiding meanings? Is it some kind of code? What's your gut feeling on that? My first reaction is that this level of,
[00:37:49] Unknown:
seemingly random, often very bizarre phrasing has got to be intentional. It's too consistent in its strangeness. Intentional how though? Well, it could be a few things. Maybe it's deliberate obfuscation like making it hard for outsiders to casually understand what's going on, creates barrier. An in group thing. Yeah. Or perhaps it's a very specific internal language, like an inside joke blown up to cover everything. Yeah. But then you link it to what else is in our notes. You mean the imminentize the eschaton part? Exactly. The notes claim, each livestream
[00:38:21] Unknown:
acts as a magic ritual of mimetic energy to imminentize the eschaton. Okay. Let's unpack that slightly. Immanentize the eschaton basically means trying to, like, think about the end times or a utopian future right here, right now. Make it real. That's the gist. Yeah. Actively working to create some kind of massive societal transformation,
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often seen as a golden age. If that's the underlying goal Then these titles aren't just random. Then maybe these titles are part of that magic ritual. Maybe they're dense symbolic constructs, packed phrases designed to, you know, hit you on a different level, bypass your rational thought, mimetic energy, like the notes say.
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Language as a magical tool, essentially, shaping reality through these weird titles. It's a fascinating possibility.
[00:39:05] Unknown:
If you wanna shift consciousness or spark some kind of change, maybe you use language that works symbolically that resonates deeper than just its surface meaning. And the notes also mention
[00:39:16] Unknown:
a cult stuff, masonic symbols, the phrase, weaving spiders come not here. That seems to fit, suggesting there's a hidden, maybe esoteric layer to all this. All this. It definitely points towards a deliberate use of symbolism and potentially hidden meanings in their communication. It's not just random noise. Okay. So that's the titles. Weird, potentially coded, maybe even magical, but shifting focus slightly. Who are the weaving spider? Like, who's the we? Is there one host?
[00:39:44] Unknown:
A team? That's another really murky area. Our notes give us a couple of hints. They mentioned high guy is a witness and blurry guy is an anonymous contributor. Right. So at least two people involved.
[00:39:54] Unknown:
One maybe just watching, one contributing, but staying anonymous. But then complicating things, one of the actual livestream titles is hashtag w s w two twenty five, there is more than two guys here. Ah, so it's explicitly stating a larger group. That really throws out the simple idea of a single host or even just a duo.
[00:40:13] Unknown:
It points strongly towards a collective, maybe even a decentralized structure. The fact that they acknowledge multiple people, including someone deliberately anonymized as blurry guy, suggest they might be actively avoiding a single figurehead or leader. Why would they do that, do you think? Well, it could be part of their whole philosophy. If we go back to that immanentizing the echoten idea, maybe a leaderless collective approach fits with that, some kind of anti hierarchy ideal
[00:40:38] Unknown:
where the work, the message is more important than any one person. So the Weaving Spiders is the entity and not just the people behind it. The focus is on the collective project.
[00:40:48] Unknown:
That's how it feels. Yes. The output, the streams, the big detail impact seems primary rather than building up individual personalities. This ambiguity around who is actually speaking or creating could even be part of the mystique, keeps the focus on the weirdness perhaps.
[00:41:04] Unknown:
Interesting. And what about the logo mentioned in the
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notes? Weaving spiders welcome. Ah, yeah. The interpretation of a logo. The notes suggest the acronym could be w s w, which obviously fits the hashtag w w prefix perfectly.
[00:41:17] Unknown:
Weaving spiders welcome. W s w. Okay. That makes sense. Sense. And the themes weaving,
[00:41:22] Unknown:
spiders, well, they all kinda fit the general vibe. The notes also mentioned different styles for this logo concept. Sleek, glitchy circuit board, neon scanline. Suggesting maybe different facets or an evolving identity or maybe just different artists contributing? Could be any of those. It reinforces the idea of multifaceted project, not something monolithic controlled by one vision. It aligns with the collective idea. And then there are the disclaimers, like WSW is a work of fiction. Right. Which seems to contradict the whole imminentize the echaton thing, which sounds very real world focused.
[00:41:54] Unknown:
Exactly. And other odd ones about lawyers and funding, it feels like they're deliberately playing with ambiguity, maybe trying to provoke or perhaps cover themselves legally in a weird way. It adds yet another layer of what is actually going on here. It's intentionally confusing perhaps. Okay. So let's try and pull this together. We've got this really consistent hashtag w w tag, almost like a brand. Followed by numbers that aren't just sequential, hinting strongly at numerology. Then these incredibly bizarre cryptic titles full of weird juxtapositions
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and maybe, just maybe, a cult or symbolic meaning. Possibly linked to this grand idea of using the streams as rituals to change reality.
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Immananti is the Eschatan. And when we look for who's in charge, we find clues pointing away from a single leader towards a collective, maybe anonymous group. With a potential logo reinforcing the WSW identity and multiple styles hinting at complexity,
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and disclaimers that just add more questions.
[00:42:51] Unknown:
Right. So for you listening, seeking those quick but deep insights, hopefully, mapping out these strange elements, the titles, the numbers, the leadership question, gives you some of those moments even if the final picture is still,
[00:43:05] Unknown:
well, blurry. It definitely leaves us with more questions than answers in some ways, which leads to, I guess, a final thought to chew on. Cool. Well, considering all this stuff together, the occult references, the masonic nods like weaving spiders come not here, the goal of immanentizing the echaton, the weird titles, the numerology, the hidden creators Mhmm. Could this whole project be seen as something else? Like what? Like a deliberate large scale act of what some might call media magic. Could the entire output, the streams, the titles, the anonymity, could it all be constructed as a complex hyper sigil? A hyper sigil, you mean like a magical symbol or intention woven into a larger narrative or work? Exactly. Something created through language, symbols, collective action, even anonymous action designed to influence perception or maybe even nudge reality towards their desired echaton, their specific future.
[00:43:54] Unknown:
Wow. So the chaos is the point. The weirdness is the mechanism.
[00:43:58] Unknown:
Perhaps. It really forces you to think about how much power language and symbols can have, especially when used collectively and persistently. It makes you step back and really wonder what are the true intentions of the weaving spiders? What reality are they trying to weave? Definitely something to ponder. A strange journey into a very strange corner of the Internet.
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Please.
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You gotta help me. These spiders become every Saturday night, and they try to weave to my body. Please.
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Introduction to Weaving Spiders
Origins and Esoteric Meanings
The Legend of the Weaving Spiders
Media Magic and Hyper Sigils
Immanentizing the Eschaton
Symbolism and Secret Societies
Podcasting and Esoteric Discussions
Analyzing Episode Titles and Themes
Concluding Thoughts on Weaving Spiders
