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#wsw 259 Will R Wrench GuidePost apocalypse tones

Streamed live Saturday June 29 2024

Full Show Notes at

https://serve.podhome.fm/episodepage/weaving-spiders-welcome/weaving-spiders-259

• Unveiling the Mysteries of the Georgia Guidestones with Will Ellis
• Secrets, Stones, and Strange Occurrences: The Georgia Guidestones
• Guidestones and Hidden Stones: Will's Journey into the Unknown
• From Riddles to Revelations: The Enigma of the Georgia Guidestones
• Time Travel, Occult Secrets, and the Georgia Guidestones

https://rokfin.com/stream/50102/wsw-259-force-of-Will

https://www.youtube.com/live/QX6ed2zrLuI 

Will Ellis joined Spiders previously in 87 and 88.

Spiders unravel the layers of this enigmatic monument and its impact on the world.

Explore the origins, the hidden secrets, and the eventual destruction of the Guidestones. 

Will shares his personal experiences, including the riddle that led him to the Guidestones, the removal of a hidden stone, and his subsequent arrest. Spiders discuss the possible occult significance, the involvement of various groups, and the strange ritual occurrences surrounding the Guidestones. The conversation also touches on topics like time travel, the influence of celestial bodies, and the broader implications of these mysteries on our understanding of history and reality. 

STOLEN GUIDESTONE CUBE RECOVERED UNEXPECTEDLY

August 7, 2013
https://archive.is/AmQcc

Ellis is charged with Felony Theft by Taking, Interference with Government Property, and 2nd Degree Criminal Damage to Property.

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So since 2009, there has been a small notch at the top of one of the Guidestone monoliths. This summer [2014] a new cube suddenly appeared in the hole, featuring numbers and letters carved into its faces: MM, JAM, 16, 8, 20, and 14.

... a man named Michael Massanelli made a video explaining that he was the one responsible: he placed the cube there to commemorate his marriage to Jennifer Anne Masanelli on August 16, 2014. Michael Masanelli happens to be a numerologist and conspiracy buff; he’s also been friendly with William Ellis since they met — where else? — at the Guidestones.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/who-stole-a-fragment-of-georgia-s-esoteric-tablets

Two mysteries surrounded the Georgia Guidestones. 

One may have finally been solved

By Thomas Lake, CNN
February 16, 2024

• https://archive.is/idNBZ
• https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2024/02/us/georgia-guidestones-mystery-cec-cnnphotos/

MOVIE MENTIONED
NS404: Provenance
2018, 1h 30m, Drama

A strange chain of world events, cube-shaped objects, and a group of people converge with devastating implications on a global scale.
Director
Lexi Balestrieri

https://tubitv.com/movies/662344/ns404-provenance

(00:00:00) Introduction and Initial Banter

(00:14:03) Georgia Guidestones RIP

(00:19:43) Guest Introduction: Will

(00:23:01) Will's Involvement with the Guidestones

(00:31:04) The Riddle and Its Significance

(00:45:03) Language and Symbolism of the Guidestones

(01:00:00) Will's Arrest and Legal Issues

(01:20:00) Speculations on the Guidestones' Purpose

(01:45:00) Technological and Mystical Connections

(02:00:00) Broader Implications and Theories

(02:30:00) Listener Questions and Interaction

(03:00:00) Closing Thoughts and Future Plans

Audio recorded live Saturday nights and streamed to:

https://rokfin.com/OdinsAlchemy

- allen marcus

- JEM

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5. Turning   the etheric   wrench.   Is it the ectoplasmic   wrench?  

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Wrench my heart out with love.  

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And it could just be that the guy's making smoke rings.  

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Yeah.   He's vapor.  

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He's vapor. He's gay.  

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Father vape father Vapeman.  

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Puffin Fat Cloud.  

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Who was Venkman?  

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You mean Ghostbusters?  

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I think that's what Venkman was from, but who inspired Venkman?  

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Is there an original Venkman?   That's a good question. Venkman and Venkman  

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walked into a bar.   Wasn't very far.   That was his name. You never know if I'm reciting a a knock knock joke or   poetry.   That could be both   or neither at the same time.  

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So apparently, 740 Ralph McGill Road Boulevard,   Venkman's, a restaurant, a music venue balancing comfort   food, eclectic live music, and drinkability   in the heart of Atlanta's old 4th Ward   since 2015.  

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How far is that from, that damn diner?  

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That's a good question.  

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That damn doll that damn diner's been damn near demolished.   I don't think there's anything like that.   You know, the 1 in the man manicado.  

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The first the first tweet I saw Yeah. I mean, they do a very good job with their subfloors   is what the problem was.  

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There's subfloors.   A 100 years ago, did they think that they'd still have the same structure up?  

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You know, you gotta you gotta have a solid subfloor in the I've seen pictures of the building, and there wasn't much as a subfloor under it.   You know? Just   bad planning.  

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Substandard.  

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Hello, everyone.  

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Yeah. We'll see for streaming live to all the usual places.  

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Thank you for the reminder. I forgot to hit the red button.   It is still preflight  

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check.  

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Howdy. Howdy.   Hail. Hail.  

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Parts of the world are underwater.   There was hail.   Literal   hard water   in another form   hitting down at the ground.   It's another interesting weather season.   How's the weather been for everyone in chat?   Unusual?  

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It's been a very cool year here, but now the heat's hitting.   It's supposed to be hot with 20 next week over in Reading. I'm like, yeah. That's why I moved out of there.  

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Holy.   Oh, wow.  

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That's hot.  

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Yep.   I was there the year the 2nd year I lived there was the year that it was for 73 days in a row, it never dipped below a 100 and 10, and it was averaging a 117   during the day.   Oh, man.   That's inhuman.  

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Yeah. That's rough. 120.   That was about a 115,   118 here  

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a few for about a week or 2,  

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like, 2 years ago, and it was just   unbelievable. It couldn't it couldn't even work during the day. I had to sleep during the day and get up at 10:10 o'clock PM,   go work until   the sun came up.   Just too hot.  

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Yeah. It gets that when it was that hot, I would go around and spray the   bird coops   and, like, regularly. Like, that bird coops were always being wetted.   You know, just   constantly running a sprinkler on top of them like it was like, I was watering a fucking lawn, and   that's the only thing that could even make it   livable.  

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They probably die when it's that hot.  

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Yeah. They just sit there, and birds don't have sweat glands, so they just sit there with their mouths open and don't really move and just sit there and do this pant, you know, with their mouths wide open. Like, they can't,   like a  

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dog. Yeah. Yep.  

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Yeah. We've been working We got a deep freak going this year, so we might,   we might,   do ice cubes. Because, occasionally, if we have the availability to make enough ice, we'll go throw   some ice cubes in the middle of the day in their water,   things like that.   Yeah.   Or I've seen either any vegetables and throw them in the freezer like broccoli and throw it in the freezer,   and then hang it on a string for them. And then, you know, just that eating that chilled stuff brings down their core temperature. And  

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That's what I do to keep cool.   Not with broccoli, but   eating cold   fruit. That helps.  

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Yeah. I drink a lot of ice water in the summer.  

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Got a keypad ordered. Juice.  

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William   k 101.   Hello. Hi. What's new on The Rockfin?   We are streaming.  

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Hey, Rockfin people. So   Dory,   Droyd, Jason Talbot, Ryan,   Sarah   g, billing.  

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Cody,   Colin Skipper.  

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Michael. Weber.   Stud.  

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Sister Nino.   Join 132   f   a Andrew.   Undock  

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the spiders.   Did. Stop running.  

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Right on time.  

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Uhoy hoy, SB Alger.  

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Uhoy. Uhoy.   Greetings and salutations   to my fellow spiders and also spider fans and affiliates   all across the plane, globe. Is it a plane globe or a fancy 1 this week? I don't recall.  

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It's a fancy plane.  

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It's a extended plane.  

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Well,  

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what are you doing?   Does Will have the link?  

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Yes. Will has the link.  

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Jump on in here, Will.  

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Starting to think Will's the missing link.  

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Got this AI created   composition of 2 memes. You see, it's the Willy Wonka guy, and that transitions into is that the Addie Murphy guy with his hand on his Oh, wow. Thinking photos. Lamar Burton.   Always a reading rainbow guy?  

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Yeah. The reading rainbow.  

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Well, here's the overlay off.  

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We'll get to it a little bit.   Just Can't wait to see that. It's sort of a work in progress. I just you? It's in the book.  

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The Reading Rainbow.  

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It it needs to become the perfect loop where it just keeps going back and forth between the 2 characters. So it's not quite finished yet. It's just partially there. There's another leg of the journey that's needing to be made.  

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Oh, great. That guy tapping his forehead is LeVar Burton? No.  

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Yeah. It's what he was on reading rainbow.   I can do   anything.  

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Alright. I just found 1 of those huge blind spots in my insight into all of life.   As happens, you know, when you're reasonably intelligent, well read, and try to see things as they really are, and then sometimes   and then you have to ask yourself the rest of your life, how did I not notice? Oh my god. It was fucking LeVar Burton. How did I not recognize it?   I thought it was just some famous random meme guy, you know.  

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You didn't even watch enough PBS. Apparently, you got more than 1 and a half channels.   Brilliant.  

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Hey, Jim. What's the name of the stream?  

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Wsw259.  

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Will our ranch guide post apocalypse   tones?  

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I think that's how a real real podcast does it. Right?  

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Hey.  

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The Georgia Guidestone are a monument composed of 6 marble slabs. The Georgia Guidestone Located 90 miles east of Atlanta.   The Georgia Guidestone's   10 guidelines are engraved onto the marble slab. The Georgia Guidestones. And 8 different languages.   The Georgia guide's tongue in English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindu. Keep Georgia guide's tongue Arabic, Chinese, and Russian. I wanna live at the 5 in  

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Prepare for that sudden arrival.   As speed's throat is clear.  

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That was very sudden.   You are on camera, but not on mute,   so you're aware when we actually come on screen there, Will.   I hit mute for you while it was, playing the intro, but you are on camera, brother.   So whenever you're ready to unmute, you go ahead and do it yourself.   I'm not gonna   unmute you in case you're having some conversation in the background there.  

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There's always background conversations happening.   Mhmm. Can you hear me now? Everyone up. There you go. Yeah. We can hear you. No problem.  

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Hello?  

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How's it going? Well. It's going well. Let's, have Balderson introduce,   the guy who rolled in with us.  

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So, tonight, we have,   returning guest   is my buddy, Will. Will is   got notoriety for being the gentleman   that actually took that block that so many   people   have made different,   occult,   theories about that was missing and then somebody and even knows the entire story behind the block that was put back in,   and then a video was passed around the community a lot of that block,   being destroyed.   And a lot of people, including our friend, Chaney,   put a lot of time into decoding what was on there only for Will to tell him it was basically   fucking   Becky loves fucking   John   and the date. You know? It was actually a marriage thing, but it was   absolutely nothing   occult about it. And   the   conspiracy world got to   put many, many hours   into something that was   absolutely nothing.  



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But we'll that sounds familiar. And all those dude's predictions  

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are still hanging out there. They're they're nothing. Oh, man. Some of them are amazing. The the different numerological   things and the letter.   Oh, god. I remember Chaney's face when she goes, but what about   And you're like, yeah. But his name's like Mark Mahan or whatever the fuck his name was. I don't remember. And her jaw just dropped.   Like, she's just like,   hell, fuck. That was 1 of the funniest things I ever saw. I tried so hard not to just die laughing right there. Like, oh, fuck. That was funny. It was, I mean, just good stuff. But,   Will figured out that there was a removable piece. And then under that removable piece, there was an altar,   some other little paraphernalias,   but Will has the notoriety and the and the criminal record to prove it. So Unfortunately.  



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So welcome, Will. Welcome back, Will. How's it going? Good to be here.  

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So it's been 2 years since   lightning struck. What happened?   I don't even know. We kinda forget these details.  

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Actually, I think it's just been a year now, isn't it? I think it happened in 23  

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July or July of 23. I believe it is that   when it happened? Because I'm looking at this article,   and they were saying a year later, and the article's dated   from 1 year ago. So we're 2024 now. Did the event happen in 2022?   Maybe it happened in 2023.  

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Yeah. 2022. July 6, 2022.  

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Oh, okay then. It's 2 years. Yeah. It's okay. They're claiming it's a bombing. That's the way I felt, Will. Don't feel bad. It took Yeah. Yeah. We don't judge nobody. Telling me to convince me it was, 2 years ago also. Well, here's my here's my weird thing. Do y'all know about, truth seekers, Steve Campion? He does a podcast. What?   Truth seekers.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mhmm. Steve Campion?  

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Yeah. Yeah. I don't know any other names. I don't know him that well. But That's just a host of it. But I was on his podcast   in the October of the year before, which would be 21, I guess. So 9 months after I was on his podcast, I was on there for about 2 hours just spilling all the beans,   saying everything, you know,   and saying, you know, what it might be really and just everything I knew. And 9 months later was the explosion. So   kinda odd.   I had to go back and look at the dates, but, yeah, it was 9 months after. Yeah. 9 months. You gave you gave birth to the explosion potentially.   Well, I mean, that's the whole thing to it. It's ones and zeros. It's all about it's all about the hermetic,   masculine and feminine oracle and giving birth to something else. So yeah. Yeah.  

And there's another thing to it, which I kinda thought of. It's kinda weird. It's like the opposite of the Tower of Babel. It's like, you know,   supposedly, God struck down the tower and gave everyone their language. And,   on this,   all the languages were there, and   something struck down and destroyed all the languages. So it was like a reverse of Tower of Babel kinda.  

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So so so, please, can we pull up Marcus, can you pull up a list of that list of languages? Because during that song, when it was listing it,   I don't know why, but it struck me because 1 of them being Swahili, and I was like, why the fuck would you pick Swahili?  

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And not French. There's not French. There's not,   what else is not on there?   But there's 12 different languages, 8 on the bottom, and then there's this 4 ancient languages. Up the list of the top,  

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most spoken languages worldwide.   And Swahili is not even in on the list anywhere, like, the top 20.   Like so I'm I'm wondering what other ones and what was the criteria   they used   to pick those languages now at this point. I'm wondering what that was. That's because,   like, there's ones missing like you just said. French French is,   5th most spoken language in the world. Obviously, there's French French Canada. There's Oh, German German is not on there. Yeah.   German German's kind of far down on the list, actually. Yeah.   There's   so it's English, Mandarin, Hindu, span or Hindi,   Spanish, French, Arabic, Bengali,   rep, Russian, Portuguese,   Urdu,   Indonesian,   German, Japanese,   Nigerian,   Pidgin,   Marathi,   Telugu,   Turkish, and Viet then Vietnamese.  

So I'd like to see that list. Let's look at the list now   and see how that lines up at all with the,   actual list of most spoken languages.   And, actually, 3 of those I said were  

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English, Spanish,   Swahili,   Hindi,   Hebrew,   Arabic,   Chinese, and Russian,   and in the bottom of the center tablet was the text. Additional information available   at Elberton Granite Museum   and exhibit.  

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Yeah. Okay. So out of those 2, Swahili   and,   Hebrew are nowhere on the top 20 list. Now that's very, very interesting to me.   Okay. So now   of the out of Africa theory,   what country is it that they supposedly think that they nailed that down to   that is the origin or the bread basket? Is that possibly Swahili?   And then,   obviously, the god's chosen people, Hebrews.   So, you know,   is that the reasoning behind those 2?   Just curious. You know? Like I said, those   by the numbers, anyways, those 2 are not ones that should be on the list.  

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That's interesting. I've I've didn't haven't really thought about what   the meaning of those particular languages were. I just noticed the ones that weren't there.   I guess that's how my brain works, but   but there are 4 languages on top on the capstone,   and they're considered   ancient languages, like   Babylonian cuneiform,   hieroglyphs.   Sanskrit, I think, is 1.   And,   fuck,   Greek something.  

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So   Greek. Latin, I would assume  

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Greek. But Yes. I agree. Either way of the of the languages that are current today Yeah. Why those 2 oddballs?  

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That that that should tell us a lot about the mentality of the people that put it up. You know what I'm saying? I see what you're saying. Yeah. Because if you didn't if you just took, like, the top 10 and you took and said, well, fuck these 2. I don't like them, and here's the other 8 or whatever the fucker. You just took the top 8 most spoken languages today. That's   an easy easily understood mentality.   Why   6 of the most pop   most spoken   and then these 2 oddballs and 1 being Swahili. The Hebrew, I understand,   they're obviously of   Abrahamic,   belief system.  

So they think the Hebrews are the god's chosen people.   Why Swahili?  

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I'm not sure. I know Swahili was face facing Hebrew. Like, if the orientation of it, Swahili was facing Hebrew.   Like, English is facing Russian.   So I don't understand what you mean by facing. Explain what cones. Yeah. They're looking at each other. I'm the same at another. Yeah. Oh, you're talking about the way Cyrillic half the letter a bunch of the letters are in reverse? Oh, no. No. No. How how they're just facing each other like stones themselves are pointed at each other where they're reminded me to I see. I see. Spanish is on the opposite side of English. I forget what's on the opposite side of Russian, but  

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I know what's That's very interesting because in the western world, I have this ongoing theory of how   basically,   any history we talk about is you can boil down to a law a war between Latin and Germanic. Yeah.   So that's interesting that they faced those 2 against each other. And then Yeah. So that there could be something to that too. Could be.   I'm gonna look up and see if they maybe no wonder   is Swahili that bred the origin of man.   I'm gonna try and look that up quick. Yeah. I typed in,  

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a cult   significance of Swahili, and I found some interesting links, but I can't say that they, relate to what we're doing tonight. But I did save 1 of them because   it,   well, it just says some some interesting things here. So maybe we'll drag that in later.   So, Will, do you wanna tell us, like, in the briefest,   not very very briefest, but, you know, do you wanna give us a quick overview of how you got involved? I mean, were you just living nearby? Was it a curiosity of yours?   Because,   you're a pretty  

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fascinating and lesser known inside man on this whole thing as far as I could tell. So No. I I I didn't know about them until I saw the riddle. A riddle a riddle was sent to me.  

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Okay.   So that's interesting. So you got involved third party by somebody asking you to solve a riddle. Yeah. Weird. Okay. And I had no idea about them before then, and I live, you know, 5 hours How did they contact you? Did they in person? Or That was very beginnings of Internet. It was on a message board. Okay. Okay. Yeah.  

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Just   someone sent me a riddle 1 day. There   you go.   And like I said, I live I live 5 hours away from them. I never heard of them before.  

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K. Interesting.  

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Do you remember what the riddle was?  

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I used to have a copy of it, but it's long gone. Yep. I remember some parts of it. It said, I know I remember the beginning is real clear. It's   in the in the land that shares its name with a woman,   the unseen hand turns the wheel again.   That was the opener.  

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In the land   that shares  

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Its name with a woman.   The unseen hand turns the wheel again,   which is   I   think it ended with, how much time is on the clock.   That was the end.   And there was some   parts in the middle that   kinda said something about stones. So I figured out the land was Georgia,   and it was I just searched Georgia and stones, and it came up.   Interesting. Yeah. Yeah.   It was at a weird time, I guess,   personal stuff that was going on. And,   the intention of sending the riddle to me and figuring it out, I don't know. Who knows?  

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Yeah. Well, that's just far out there. You know? Like you said, old days of the Internet, these young people would never understand how crazy and weird and different the Internet used to be. It's very different. It's not all it's all manicured now and kind of it's kind of like when you put those rails up when you're bowling.   You know, there's no gutters to go into, but the whole internet used to gutters you could fall   into. So,   oh, and it made me think of, maybe it was a ARG. Is that what they call them, Marcus?   Like an alternate reality game or something. Yeah. This I never thought of that until just now because of what you said, Will. So people get sucked into these alternate reality games. You know, QAnon is kind of affiliated with them, Cicada 3301,   and a really old 1 is called the Aung's Hat. It's probably the most famous 1 in it. So to me, that's an interesting line of inquiry   that the Georgia Guidestones could be involved in an alternative   reality game.  



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As as the guide stones imply in the name guide stone,   you can guide people towards the stones   and then depending on your own intentions, creating your own mysteries surrounding it. I think that's why they kinda grew in popularity,   And   any great art has that level of ambiguity and mystery involved,   and people who were behind the project remained anonymous,   not taking credit for it.   So then we couldn't really ask them directly   until they broke on and just told us what it meant to them,   meaning it leaves gaps in our own imagination that we kinda fill in with possibilities.   So that being said, the possibility   of other people using   the guide stones as a sort of touchstone   place of meeting or a famous   sort of   structure   to then use that   in an alternate reality game could become a possibility.  

It's like we have those pyramids in Egypt and then everyone references them.   So   if   the   Geyser Plateau is very well known and that's a so called wonder of the world,   Was it the intention of the granite   builders in this little town where there's granite? They're mining it out. They have a museum there.   Maybe that was 1 possible intention to construct this monument and then allow it to become   a global phenomenon,   not necessarily at the scale of those large pyramids,   but the craftsmanship   and the mystery surrounding it   creates an aura around it that people just robot in there.  

Yeah. Did I go completely robot?  

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Pretty close. I mean, we could kinda hear you.  

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I'll fix that. Thank you.  

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No. I see what you're saying. And, I have a kind of a weird story   that   when I was in jail, when they finally arrested me when I was bringing it back,   2013.   Yeah. 2013.   So   about the 2nd and third day I was in jail, I was in there. The rooms are just open, and there's a huge mural on a wall in 1 of the cells. Like, a huge, just nice drawn mural.   And me and this other dude were talking about it, and he was like, yeah. The guy who made that,   he said, he solved a riddle that brought him into town into, some place in town. And I hadn't said anything about why I was in there. You know? I wasn't saying shit. So I'm in there. We're talking about this nice and there's art all over the place. I'm like, did he draw his other art? And he's like, oh, yeah. He was in here, and all he could talk about was a golden rose. And he found some mural that led him here in town. And he got in trouble doing something.   And this was in 2013. So and by the end of my I was there for about 11 days just because   of   stuff to get me out, problems. And,   by the end of that 11th day, I was in there. He had gone kinda crazy. Like,   I started saying more and more about why I was in there, and   I finally came to the conclusion that he was the guy that made the fucking art of the wall that you know? At some point, he got he went so crazy, and he had to be locked up in a cell in there and was drawing stuff all over his his jumpsuit,   started just drawing all over his jumpsuit, you know, just symbols and stuff I know.  

So by by that time, I figured, hey. That was him.   So you think he was talking in the 3rd person by the time he's talking to you? Correct. I think he because just the way he started drawing on his jumpsuit and going crazy and, like, just doing weird stuff,   it's   but he he mentioned the whoever was there doing the art, they   found Elberton   due to a riddle, which made me think, you know, from here to now, they sent out a bunch of riddles.   They wanted somebody to come over there and find it.   They wanted Yeah.  

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It sounds like and that's weird to let them draw inside the jail. You know, usually, you can't just start busting out your artworks on the walls of the jail. That's not exactly normal. You know? No. The part of the jail that I was in, it was a definitely,  

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like, there was a huge black glass   2 way mirror on 1 side. It was a part where they're watching them. They're letting them do what they want.  

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Yeah. Wow. But I never put it in jail like that.  

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Oh, Albert Elberton's a little different. I mean,   the the people I met in Elberton, I tell everybody, it's like the people went that were in Roswell moved to Elberton. That's   just from me being around them.  

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Is is there, I I guess I shouldn't say. Yeah. I'm trying to not ask leading questions, open ended questions.   What sort of military presence or connection   have you,   experienced in relation to the stones, if any? I mean, trying to keep that question as open and as possible. Like, you'd mentioned the Roswell area 51 thing. Yeah. That's just my opinion. That's just kinda me making  

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some fantastic stories, but just   I never really saw any military,   presence there.   Saw some things fly over, but nothing really. I don't  

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That's that's a good open end question to lead into the idea of orbs   or lights or willow the wisps or this sort of thing? If it's a mystical sort of touchstone,   maybe ceremonial use,   was it That way. What sort of strange attractor qualities did you notice about   this stone thing?  

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I know about the ceremonies. They would do full moon ceremonies there for sure. I know that.   Different groups or 1 same group? Just 1 group. I didn't partake in them, but I know I   I met the guy who did who led the ceremony. Did they have any color on their   uniforms?   Oh, yeah.   Red and white.   The red would stand on top of the stones, and everybody with white would stand underneath it. You know, it's rose. It's a druid. You know?   It's druid stuff.   All the ones at the bottom dressed in white,   the red would stand on top of the stones at the full moon, which is the   the fully ovulated egg. So   they're trying to pierce the moon. You   know?  

If you if you if you're looking back from it from far away, you'd think it was a clan rally, but it's not. It's it's druids. It's all the whites on the bottom represent the sperm,   and the 1 red on top is the pinprick of blood when the sperm pierces the ovulated egg.  

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So Trippie. Wow. Yeah.  

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Do you remember what the mural looked like inside the jail, Will?  

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Oh, yeah. It was,   mostly just a house,   like, and a traveler on a road walking up. You know, he had the   the cane   with a bandanna on his back or on the end of the cane or whatever, the old hobo,   symbol or archetype.   So it's like a traveler walk always walking down a road, and it was always like a house.   You know? Mostly landscape stuff, but always a house.  

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Interesting. Yeah.   Somebody on a on a mission to get to a place. So Yeah. It makes me think of the fool from the tarot deck. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. 0 card. Exactly. Yeah.  

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Yep.   And a bunch of roses.   He mentioned the golden rose.   Yeah.  

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Have there been many direct references to Rosicrucianism,   and have any   official Rosicrucian   members   say stated that it was   their monument or they took any ownership of it in any way? Look at the author, the supposed pseudonym.  

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Yeah.   It's right there.   And,   there's an obvious misspelling on the little tablet that   that was there.   Pseudonym was misspelled. It was pseudonym.   So   there's always the intentional   misspelling or the intentional   not being perfect.   That's the cornerstone.  

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K. Well, because that's how you   you said somebody encouraged you to notice   the part that could be easily removed. And then is it true that once that you went ahead and removed that, but then that's why you ended up getting arrested? Is that do I have the story right?  

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Yeah.   That's, I mean, that's pretty much right. Yeah.  

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Yeah. So, I mean, to me, that's very far out. You know? It makes me think of the wicker man. I could've kept it. I mean, I could've kept it and said nothing, but  

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I was   there's a that the guy that was with me that when I when I was arrested, he was he was wanting me to bring it back over there, and he wanted to look at it and organize.   That's a whole another long story. So   I I just brought it back and   kinda gave it back to him.  

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Now were they aggressive when they arrested you, or were they cool? Oh, no. No. No. They were cool  

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because I knew who everybody was. I told them the people that I knew and they, you know   there was 1 1 part when, they were talking   I mean,   I wanna say his name, but I'll just leave it out. They were talking to the guy who's in charge of it now, and I I said, how do I know his name and who you're talking to? And I said his name, and they all kinda looked at each other like, well, I mean, how does he know that?  

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Right. So, really, they're they're drawn into it also at that point. They're realizing, hey. We're kinda They're all involved.   Right. Pantomime. It's not it's not a straight ahead thing that there's there's this ritual steps involved here. You know? No. They're all involved. I had COs talk to me when I was leaving the place.  

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The bail bondsman person talked to me about it. You know? They all know.   It's   kinda weird.  

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Yeah. Maybe she called the bail bondsman over there in Elberton and ask them what they know now.  

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It would be the same thing. I mean,   not much different,   except   they probably don't get as many visitors now.  

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Yeah. I mean, that's true because the thing actually isn't there. So I'm sure some people still go back to the site, but without the monument there, it would be strange to visit very often.  

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Yeah. There's a museum there. Do they keep public records of visitor accounts?   Or as a private museum, do they keep that information private?  

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That's a good question. Not sure.  

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It's like,   some of those stores have the turnstiles. You walk in, you turn it around. It goes click, and then it kinda counts how many people have been in and out of there. Maybe there's a guest book to look at to see how many people are signing it.  

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So I I don't know if it's,   would hold any bearing to why Swahili's on there, but it was kinda interesting.   I looked up an article on the genetics of Swahili,   and they're claiming that   it's mostly   African women   and Persian men was the origin of it.  

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Very interesting.  

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Yeah. That's pretty damn interesting to me. I thought Swahili was mostly a a vocal language. I mean It it is, but it's a from a specific region.   Okay. And it's a very small   it's only about 150, 000, 000 people. So that really stuck out to me again why that's on the on the stones.   So then I looked up at the genetics of the people that are from the Swahili speaking region,   and they boiled it down to   that it was the the mother line,   it was African women.   And then what they're surmising is is that it was Persian traders   that came over and started the the very first trade. They're saying 100 of years before   European or Aryan,   descendants   and came into the region that there was Persian traders apparently   according to what their genetic studies of it, if you believe any of it, any of that.  

They're saying that it's Persian.   So whether whether you believe the gen x studies or not, understand that's the story they're putting out,   that it was Persian   traders that were coming over and apparently bringing Chinese silks and things like that most like   and getting themselves some African putty.  

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As far as I know, that's still going on in a way.   Yeah.  

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So what current   area are we talking about? Like, Ethiopia or  

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I know it's,   Tanzania.   Hold on. Let me look at it.  

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I was just looking at it a minute ago.  

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It was, like, 4 or 5 countries.   The Swahili Coast, it's the coast of East Africa,   bordered by the Indian Ocean, in inhabited by the Swahili people. Okay. I'm looking right now. Yeah. Yeah. It is it includes Sofala   located in Mozambique,   Mombasa,   Gidi,   Pei Island,   Lamu,   Melinda, which is in Kenya,   and Dar es Salaam   in Kilwa   in Tanzania.   In addition, several coastal islands are included in the Swahili coast such as Zanzibar   and   Comoros.   Now it's super interesting that   despite being a 150, 000, 000 people ain't shit, that's a small city in any major,   you know, first world nation.  

That you know, a 150, 000, 000. That's the entirety of them. But when you look at this list of names,   a bunch of those names like Mozambique, how many things in, you know, have you heard for no apparent reason? You know that name for a bunch of reasons. It's in songs,   whole bunch of things.  

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Yeah.  

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Kenya,   it gets talked about a lot.   I'm not sure if Zanzibar   is in a lot of things. Like, what the fuck is Zanzibar?   Some tiny little island that has under a 150, 000, 000 people, because all a 150, 000, 000 makes up all these put together.   So each of these areas are tiny, and yet   in pop culture and in   historical culture for some reason,   in a almost disproportional   way compared to the size that these areas we're talking about are.   So that's very interesting to me.  

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When Fox 5 Atlanta says it was the Swahili Hindi slab that was bombed or blew up or destroyed or whatever. So Yeah. I was about to say that was a side that got hit. So Oh. That's kinda interesting too.  

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Fan,   just weird. Right?  

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And then do you know what happened with the time capsule information? Did did  

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Oh, I have no idea, but I know   it was   the whole site was cleared out at least above ground that afternoon.   The whole thing was gone. Like, they had trucks already up there.   So   the time capsule was on is below the it was in the   it was in the ground at the corner of the northeast pillar, so   I I imagine they moved it.   So  

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Yeah. Because I remember they said it was a bust, which just made me think they swooped it, in, and they're just like, nothing to see here. You know? Oh, exactly. Yeah. They definitely took it out.  

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Look. Because, look.  

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2 weeks before they they got me. Alright? 2 weeks before that,   it was like midnight.   Me and this other dude and another guy that were   I just met the week before. So they that's the   guy. But we were on top of this thing with the lighter hanging down, lights.   We were looking for the top cop, so we thought it was at the top.   So the cops pull up.   They sit there. They don't get out of the car. They don't do anything. They just kinda sit there, and then they just pull off. And we're on top of this thing at midnight, making noise, lights, sliders, robes hanging down.   So they pull up, take off. They turn around at the end of the street, come back, stop a gun, and then keep on going.  

This is 10 miles out of town. Oh, yeah. It's out of the middle of nowhere.   And then I figured out it wasn't on top. I was like, okay. Well, the time capsule is at the at the bottom, of course. It's at the bottom foundation or the bottom cornerstone.   And I had shovels. I had a pickaxe. We were gonna pry it out.   All kinds of stuff to go down and get it, and they were there 5 minutes. By the time I got there, they were like, nope.   You're not doing anything.   So they knew that I knew where it was, and I had the stuff on it back of my Jeep ready to go. I don't know.  

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Yeah. See. So that's interesting. They they said, well, we see he's there in something, but he's in the wrong spot. So we're gonna bail. But then when you went to the right spot, they're like, you're under arrest. Oh, yeah. Exactly. Yeah.  

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Yeah.  

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But they only took Now have you experienced any negative effects from all this? They never I mean, you said they were cool when they arrested you because, you know, sometimes in in these kinds of   stories, it seems like the people who are guiding or leading,   the individual   will flip or turn on them and make it bad, you know, where it's like benign or kinda normal or or curious, mysterious,   but then all of a sudden, it takes a negative tinge.  

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No. They they wanted me to talk when   when I got to the jail, but I said, no. I'm not I'm not gonna say anything.   They wanted me to write it all down, but I was like, no. I'm not doing that.   But not Interesting.  

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They never But it totally sounds like you lived in X Files episode.   You fucking ain't right.  

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Oh, it was weird. Like like,  

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you know, the fuck the thing is is no matter how crazy Will's fucking story sounds, this is the fucked up part.   This motherfucker figured out that there was a removal piece that nobody in the world knew about and actually did this shit. So whatever brought him to that has some kind of credence,   or he's the weirdest lucky weird some bitch on the planet. Right?   Like,  

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even when I went to the court   a year later, the judge was like, how did you cut that?   And I had to plead the 5th because I didn't wanna answer anything in court. And I was like, I plead the 5th. You know? I'm not gonna tell you.   But I I   I if I didn't cut it. He's a he was like, if you cut that, there would have been cut lines in the capstone. How did you cut that without having to cut the top?   And I wanted that to tell him, but I was like,  

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Well, and he asked you the wrong question. How'd you get it out? There's a different question.  

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He did. He he had there was, like, 2 holes in the side where   they,   they drilled 2 holes in it, and they used that to anchor the glue. So they filled up those 2 holes up with glue, then they filled   the outside of the stone up with glue. So when that hardened it, I got a anchor bolt.   So it couldn't saw that on its own. And he was like, why don't you drill those 2 holes in it after you moved it? And I was like,   I I didn't.   But I plugged the fill. And I was like, nope.  

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I'm looking through the photo. Did you take photography or if anything   took it home? Like, any documented for for yourself? Okay. So that's interesting. Yeah. Definitely.  

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Like,   on top of it, there's a keyhole in a dish. Right? And it's not on any other top.   Like you see on this picture Mhmm. You see where all that oil is, the black resin   on the capstone, a little patch of black?   Yeah. Okay. That just kept getting worse and worse. And   right where they're pouring it over is the spot that I moved. They're not pouring it over any other spot.   So the spot hidden alter.   Right.   But right there is a there's a keyhole in a dish.   So in that   in that keyhole, when I was up there, I just put a rock in it.   So I figured if somebody was gonna use it, use that keyhole with a rod or whatever,   they'd have to move the rock out.  

And when I was up there the last time I was up there, I'm checked to see if that rock was still in there, and it was still in there.   So So they didn't use that part of it. This is the the middle stone. Yeah.  

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This, looks like  

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Or they were smart enough to put it realize the trap and put it back. Yeah. Put it back on there? Yeah. Yeah. You know, like like, them guys that, like, you know, like,   I've seen guys, like, when I was younger and they would suspect their roommate was stealing weeds, so they would fucking, like, put little, like, marks on the jar. And then, like, the other guy would be, like, he'd but he'd be smart enough because he already learned that lesson with his parents' booze. And so he'd see that mark and then put it right back perfectly on it.   Okay.  

And my dad already got me with that 1. That's why I put water back in up till that mark.  

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An interesting mow pattern.  

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Yeah. I was wondering if crop circle patterns appeared  

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on Farmer's Fields near Oh, dude. Nothing to get trouble. That was, like, the worst movie that's ever been. Oh, that's so fucking hilarious in the Humpty Dump, dude, in the fucking jury singing and shit. Oh, yeah. That's totally what that should've looked like at Will's Court.  

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Oh, it was terrible. They I was the last 1. I sat there all day, and   every question he asked was the 5th, the 5th. And   I didn't even see I didn't even talk to a lawyer before that day. It took a year. And every time I try to call my lawyer, and they would it would go to voice mail or go to, yeah, voice mail. And I never talked to my lawyer. And,   like, a week before I called, and they were like,   there'll be somebody there when you get there.   Alright.   So I didn't even talk to a lawyer until that day,   that morning.  

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What were the charges?  

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Oh,   destruction of government property, which   outed themselves as being who owns it.   Trespassing on government property, and   I had another 1, but they dropped it. I think it was, like, theft or something.   Theft of government property.   All of it was government property. So that tells you who owns the place.  

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Yeah. Oh, shit. Right? Yeah. Yeah.  

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So was it like a public private partnership thing where   there was a public component   and a private ownership?  

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They say I'm right look, man.  

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Yeah. The police chief and the fire chief and, another somebody else were in charge of it, like mayor. I think they were just in charge of it,   but the deed was the government.  

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It's this,  

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picture from the top down, I think. Right. So you can if you zoom in, you can see the keyhole in the dish in that 1.   Keep going. Yeah. There it is.   No. No. No. Not it's on the down part.  

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Go down. It's in 1 of the arms there. I think the arm on the bottom left there, Marcus. Right  

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there. Yeah. There's 2 little shadows. 1 of them is a dish, and 1 of them is a keyhole. It's about 8 inches deep.   So you have 1 and 0.   A rod would go into the keyhole and a certain powder substance would go into the dish.  

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And you got to leave a residue   on the side.  

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Yeah.   And that stain, they're they're obviously pouring that stain over it.   Like, they're trying to cancel out what I did.   It's not gonna happen. So they just took it out.  

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Is that what those marks are on the top? The discolorations?  

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Yeah. The black spots? Yeah. It's a like a resin. I think it's   probably cannabis   cannabis and a few other things.   So you think it's like maybe like a holy anointing oil?   Correct. Yeah. Oh, yeah.  

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That looks like a Oh, probably can't. So from what my I did it. I actually,   not that I'm trying to promote the dude, but I did a really deep dive on the holy anointing oil with, James True.   And it's,   cannabis,  

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opium.  

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Okay. It is cannabis, opium,   cinnamon,   and,   cassia.  

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Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah.  

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Or not not not cassia, just cinnamon and then, no. Hold on.   Frankincense,   And then frankincense was the last 1. And so   the frankincense and the cassia were basically   precursors,   and they would open up the pathways   that would allow the cannabis in the opium to take effect.   So when I started looking what what happens chemically and so they were basically like a precursor.   So you were getting super fucking high.   Like, yeah. You know? Yeah. So we're not people understand that if you drink orange juice before you take some mushrooms, and if you don't, you're welcome. Yes. If   if you drink some nice   actual raw orange juice before you take some   mushrooms,   that,   which isn't why I'm always drinking orange juice.  

It gives you a little more   woozing.  

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Oh, yeah. It makes your come up come up.  

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Yeah.  

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So now did the stream end, or did I just get booted?  

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You got booted.   Okay.   We kicked you out. We said, you know what, Sean? The hair is too fucking wild. That's too fucking wild. No. I get it? You know what? We could put up to a to a certain level, and this was him who greeted you.  

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So should I well, don't kick me out again. Just say something like a good neighbor. Oh. Don't call the cops on me. Just say, bro, would you change your hair, please? And then I'll Fuck, Marcus. You know, you didn't need to be so abrupt and rude about it then. Of all people, like, his is normal. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is where?   Oh, no.  

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Was there was there insurance?  

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Yeah. He's a hammock anointing oil concoction.  

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Then were there insurance on the on the guide stones?   Yeah. Oh, I'm sure. I have no idea. What was anything collected?  

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I don't know if that's even public information.   Maybe you have to I doubt it. No.  

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Might have to wait a few years for some foil request or something. Oh, you're not gonna get any anything out of that. I mean, it's so it's government. So you Mhmm. Why would they  

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need insurance? Well, and wasn't that a government worker who came and yanked out that piece that you're,   I don't know if you could call it friend.   No.   Your other associate   that is involved   not in the actual removal, but somehow   wormed his way into it after the fact, if I remember the story correctly, basically.  

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Yeah. It was it was 1 of the guys that, I think at the Granite Museum. He was 1 of those people   or 1 of the granite.   He was definitely an official.   Yeah.  

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So that that even let adds further credence to Oh, yeah. It was definitely a government thing because if it's a private thing, the government's not sending out an official   to come fucking   deal with, you know,   some basic vandalism.   And no and it's not even really vandalism. All they had to do was take it down, but that guy made a big public show about it and handed out pieces to people.   So that that's pretty interesting.  

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Yep.   Oh, yeah. I thought it was quite funny.   Because the PC made didn't even fit in the thing. It was sticking out and   looked   just odd.   Yeah.  

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Yeah. You were saying you told them to do it differently,   if I remember correctly.   Yeah. Open to the public.   It definitely was open to the public.  

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So we can see that the museum   is in town   along   77 or Hartwell Highway.  

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Mhmm.   77.  

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Yeah.   Then we have a granite museum   and a public library.   So between the Elbertson Granite Museum   and the Elbertson County Public Library,   are they   storing pieces of the stone,   other   documents related to   news items,   books? There's that book by RC,  

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Common Sense, I think it was called. Yeah. That's at at the library. There's a lot of, other cornerstones   that look just like the 1 I removed.   I mean, exactly like them. It's same shape, same size,   different color. Like, 1 of them is kinda pinkish, just different type of granite.   But in 1 corner of the the library, there's all these cornerstones, and there's some wood cornerstones.   I even asked the lady on my you know, what are these things? She had no idea.   So   I mean, it was the exact same shape,   same,   split face,   finish on it.  

Exact same thing?  

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Were they all part of it at 1 point, or did they swap them out?  

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No. There's no I have no idea. I I just know it was the same thing. And there were some, like, 5 or 6 wood ones.   Like and then the wood ones had a hole in it, like, where you move in and out.   But   I just thought that was odd. I've never really got a answer for that.   I even asked the guy that I was working with, and he he was just kinda   he's like, well, check with the lady that this library   didn't go nowhere.   So if you do go to the library advice though. Ask the ask the librarian for help is a funny piece of advice. Well, he told me she had some other things at her house that I might be interested in.   Like,   she had some they they called them mage. She had artifacts.  

Also.   Never got in touch with her, though.   Random women. Wonder if she's still alive? I don't think so. I think she was in her eighties when  

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that was going on, so I doubt it. Well, do you remember the name of the, message board where you first were delivered the riddle?  

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I think it was on, like,   a just a Stephen King message board. I don't know. Yeah.   Stephen King dark tower message board.  

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Sorry.  

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She gets us weirder every question you ask. And it was just some random, like like, I knew the guy, but, you know, of course, he was using a fake name.   Just all of a sudden, 1 day, just, hey.   Here you go.  

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Yeah. I got a real picture.  

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Somebody just needs to write it down, and it's a movie script or a fucking TV. Oh, you haven't written a book? Considered at least making an outline for a book and make a couple chapters, they probably hook you up to get all this documented because this is real life. It's not you're not I know you're not lying.  

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Somebody's made a move somebody's already made a movie all the time.  

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Yes. So   this   CNN Georgia Guide Zones mystery   page worth scrolling through here   talks a little bit about that movie. I don't know. It's the most comprehensive article,   but they talked about the documentary, and maybe the documentary   revealed the identity of who was going under the name of   Robert Christian.  

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Oh, no. I I meant, like,   these dudes made a movie about it.   I can find it. Okay. Okay.  

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So I have to wonder   if   now   if I recall, and Marcus is gonna have to be a good 1 to answer this,   was   Jubilee   every 7 generations.  

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Like a debt reset?  

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Yeah.   I'm not sure.   But there was a definitely a specific jubilee period,   and I gotta wonder if the mechanism behind that is   men who will build up a company a lot of times, that dude is a badass sum of bitch.   The guys who build these empires, it's usually the shitbag kids   that come in. It's not a lot of times that even just the kids.   It's the grandkids and the great grandkids.   I have to wonder if the mechanism behind the jubilee   was   to defeat nepotism   and that,   in every so many generations   or so many years, there was a reset   to stop nepotism from being such a driving factor where it becomes overwhelming like it's is in our society,   where   we have an eternal richness and an eternal debt for certain classes.  



[01:07:29] Unknown:

Yeah. That makes sense. Years. Yeah.   That makes even more sense. Yeah.  

[01:07:35] Unknown:

And that makes sense to me. Like I said, that's   a a lot of times, the kid of the man who built the empire will be alright. Because a lot of times that kid was there to help because the dude that builds an empire starts building it young. And a lot of times also,   what they term is like a high value man, that is the dude that most women are after. It's just a fact of life. And so that dude is most likely had kids young,   most likely was out kicking ass young.   Probably that kid, that first kid anyways, at least somewhat helped craft the umpire.   We could take Jim easily as an example of that,   where Jim himself   helped his dad in the crafting of the   what they have now. And Jim has now taken it over because Jim had a hand in the crafting of that,   that Jim himself is also a badass.  

But   now imagine   a generation or 2 removed,   say, Jim's very successful.   Well, that kid grew up with a silver spoon. Right. Yeah. You know? Right. So that's where society starts having a problem. And I'm not wishing saying that that's gonna happen to Jim. But just   that would be a, you know, real easy example   is, you know, if Jim had   children in a couple generations,   you know, that's it's that same concept. So maybe that reset is to make it so eventually, like, the grandkid or great grandkid   does not,   because back then, our, generation was probably closer to 16 years. You were punching out kids when you were, like, 15, 16. Right?   So a 50, 60, that's, like, almost 4 generations. So it'd be like a great grandkidish,   great grandkid.  

Well, that kid doesn't get the free ride. He's gonna have to earn his   weight. That's, you know, interesting if that's what that mechanism is for.  

[01:09:34] Unknown:

That makes sense. Yeah.  

[01:09:36] Unknown:

And I asked that because of the idiots that think 500, 000, the idiots that fell for the over overpopulation   shit.   Those rich kids are dumb.  

[01:09:46] Unknown:

To to maintain the population   always sounded like we need to keep it at a minimum level, not bring it down to a minimum level. Right. With the language being   as it is, people are gonna argue about every detail.   I'd like to focus now on this movie,   n s 404.   Oh, yeah. You get that? Provenance. Yeah. The right? I see it on Wikipedia,   release date of 2020.  

[01:10:12] Unknown:

Yeah.   So I'm so I was talking about the red wizard. I even mentioned them a minute ago. The red the red god that stands on top.   He's Yes. He's   on the poster, it's the red wizard holding a cube, and there's even in the 1 of the trailer   or the in the movie, there's a guy in jail,   and he's being questioned by men in black looking dude. And there's a cube right there, cube sitting on a table right in front of him. Yeah.   And the guide stones are in it.   And   I I even talked to the guys who made this movie, and   they know the guy that Michael did. He was with me. They're   come same place. So   it's   Okay.  



[01:10:54] Unknown:

So   it looks like this guy sitting on a desk smoking a cigarette, is he   in jail? Is he being questioned for something? Yeah. Okay. Is this character representing a situation you found yourself in? Yeah.  

[01:11:09] Unknown:

Definitely. And he was he was given the cube in a weird way and, like,   there's   there's people chasing him around trying to get the cube from him.   You know, they're men in black type dudes chasing him around. They finally get to him.   And the Guidestones are actually in the movie.   They actually go to the Guidestones in the movie. This is a fictional  

[01:11:33] Unknown:

narrative   film   with a script that was written and shot   as a traditional art film Yeah.   With the with the dramatic,  

[01:11:45] Unknown:

character arcs and dialogue and all that. It's not that long. I don't I'm not sure the length of it, but it's not like a long movie. It's not like a music video. It's an actual  

[01:11:54] Unknown:

Yeah. Film with dialogue and story Oh, yeah. Characters.  

[01:11:57] Unknown:

Okay. Like an indie film. Okay.   And it's, like, got the end of the world type of theme to it. Like, been looking for that dude who has the cube for the end of the world. I've never watched the whole thing   because I just don't wanna do it.   But  

[01:12:12] Unknown:

you don't wanna get together and have a watch party? We'll watch it, Mickey Mina. I'm good. Reminisce.  

[01:12:16] Unknown:

I'm good. Sure.  

[01:12:19] Unknown:

So here's some pictures of the the crew working on the movie on their IMD page.  

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Yeah. They go to the stones.   They're they're close.  

[01:12:30] Unknown:

So it's like art imitating life, imitating art, imitating life, imitating art on and on. It goes feeding into   existence and then spiraling back out or something to that effect.  

[01:12:42] Unknown:

Well, the guys were from Tampa, Florida,   and the guy who was with me when I got arrested was from Tampa.   So they're from the same place.   I don't know for a fact they know each other, but, yeah,   kinda odd they're from the same town.   K. Provenance.  

[01:13:00] Unknown:

Yeah. N s 404.   That letter n and that letter s in the poster is stylized. Do you know what language that is?  

[01:13:09] Unknown:

Nah.   I know n s 404 means not found.   It's a error code for your web and not not found.   But I don't know what the   I'm not sure what that is, but it's Swahili.  

[01:13:24] Unknown:

No. I don't know. I don't know.  

[01:13:27] Unknown:

Good. Is it is it runek?  

[01:13:30] Unknown:

I must say ruins. It could be ruins, but are these gonna be not fucking ruins. No. Number 1, I mean, just that just that second symbol, see how very, curved It's got curves. Yeah. Ruins don't have that many curves. Angular. Yeah. Perfect. They're they're   45 or or fucking 90. They're they're perfect angles. I would've guessed Swahili. Not good.  

[01:13:51] Unknown:

Kinda good.   But it may just be made up. Could be their own. Right. Just make your own.  

[01:14:00] Unknown:

Right. They might have stylized it across 2 or 3, languages intentionally for this thing because, you know, if you're trying to get people mysteriously interested in your work, that's you do is to give them something to think, you know, catch the eye and make them think. You know?   I like the way your room looks, by the way, Will. It's pretty fresh, man. Oh, I appreciate it. You're working on it for  

[01:14:21] Unknown:

couple of months.  

[01:14:23] Unknown:

I was thinking that also,   but I forgot. Great. And because when I thought it was when, you first popped in, and then we sat through the video and everything else, and I forgot to say it by that point in time.  

[01:14:36] Unknown:

I'm sure I can buy this movie on   so that's the right movie for sure, n s 04:04 provenance.   Provenance means, like, the history of a piece of artwork usually, you know, like, who painted the painting, who owned it first, to who inherited it, who bought it, all the places it's been. You know, that's what the word provenance means.   That makes sense. People wanna know who Archie Christian is. That's right. The history of the object or something, you know, or, I mean, I guess if you have watch,  

[01:15:03] Unknown:

like, any of those,   pawn shows or,   antique roadshow.   Anytime that they're trying to   bring in an item   that might be a somewhat mundane item,   but was owned by, say,   owned by JFK,   you proving that this mundane item was actually in JFK's hands and having a whole story   and the whole reason that you came to possess it yourself.   All of that would be part of the provenance,   which is what gives the extraordinary value to the mundane item.  

[01:15:43] Unknown:

Right. And it's a huge scam in the art world to, develop,   you know, to to either forge or to, exaggerate   or to conflate   provenance because, obviously,   you know, if the painting was in the same room as blank artist,   not a big deal. But then if they make it that he owned it, you know, then that's a whole different thing. You know?  

[01:16:08] Unknown:

And then, like, also, if he used it,   like, it was their pictures of As a reference. Right. Exactly. With that thing, was he known to have that? Like,   was this the monocle that he was known to wear when he signed this certain document and blah blah blah? Exactly.   Yeah. All that is provenance, and all that is,   very important stuff to people   who research into things.   So, yeah, it's an interesting name for the movie.  

[01:16:40] Unknown:

I was wondering if you have the big cube right in the middle. You know? What's the provenance of the black cube? So in a way, symbolically, the picture is saying   provenance and making you think of Saturn if you have  

[01:16:51] Unknown:

Yeah. Esoteric knowledge. You know? There's a wizard holding a Saturn cube, and and it's making you think of the history of it. You know? And there's a lightning bolt in the background. I mean, it's all everything I've said. Before that that movie was made, I've been on podcast, but   I think they're getting it from the guy who I was with, the m m dude.   No doubt. I mean, it's not just coincidence that there's a red wizard withholding a cube and a lightning bolt behind him and the guide stones are on it. That's just No. Of all people, you would see all of it. You know? They would have been there just for you.   I can't even remember how I found out about the movie. I think I just,   forgot how I found out about it, but,   yeah, it's not a coincidence.  



[01:17:40] Unknown:

Is there a Georgia Guidestone's   fan convention where people gather together and   just kinda schoolgirl giggle over their fandom of enjoying or hating the stones.  

[01:17:53] Unknown:

Well, a lot of people like the place. I mean, they would just go there and chill.   I don't know.   Kinda sucks they're not there, though.  

[01:18:06] Unknown:

So they   were established for certain period of time, and now they're not there.   And the questions of the timeline   and history,   was it in some way   a cultural touchstone for time travelers   or maybe something from, like, the astral plane where it existed on   multiple planes of existence.  

[01:18:32] Unknown:

That's   I don't know. Maybe.  

[01:18:36] Unknown:

Did you  

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the time travel thing is pretty cool.  

[01:18:40] Unknown:

The original contact you had, did you ever meet that dude in person? Oh, well, you tell him about the guy who sent that riddle? Or Yeah.  

[01:18:48] Unknown:

Nah.   No. It was just online. That you know of anyways?   True. Yeah.   No.   I'm still thinking the riddle was sent out to a bunch of people.   No. Or at least   a handful of people, I would think.   They wanted it to be   moved. I mean, they didn't  

[01:19:16] Unknown:

Well, just the the stain,   in the way that it was seems pretty sloppy to me.   That that's, you know, that somebody else didn't   figure you know, notice at some point that there was a   a leak   appearing out of not the top, but, you know,   what was it about? Foot, you know, under? Oh, no. The stain happened after.  

[01:19:43] Unknown:

Long after.  

[01:19:44] Unknown:

Oh, the state. Oh, so that so that might not have even been the people that put it there. That literally could have been people taking advantage of your discovery.  

[01:19:54] Unknown:

I'm not sure. It's just the way it was moved from the center of it right over that. It seems like it was   seems like it was magic trying to reverse what I did,   just to me. Right?   If it's anything magical or, like, I think it's sort of ritual, it was something to undo what I did.  

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So  

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Interesting. Or to manage it at least. Right? To influence what you did in some way. Right. And it didn't work, so they removed the whole fucking thing.  

[01:20:27] Unknown:

It's still not gonna work.  

[01:20:29] Unknown:

So for those listening now and   missing the context of this conversation,   that's kind of the way this conversation   is weaving around as we're gathering clues to assemble them. I don't know that there's   established   timeline document that we could read and then ask the questions   in a chronological   order.   Will has been with us. This is his 3rd   attempt to share the story, and are you finding it a little bit easier to get the details out now?  

[01:20:58] Unknown:

Oh, sure. Yeah. The more I talk about it, the easier it is.  

[01:21:03] Unknown:

Was was the bowl itself stained when you originally took it out? Did it look unused   or used when you took that cube out? No. It it wasn't stained at all.  

[01:21:14] Unknown:

No. The whole black the whole black thing the whole black,   resin looking thing would wasn't there. Never.   And it only started appearing,   I'd say, after I got arrested. Yeah. It didn't even happen until, you know, after I got out of jail. Everything was done in,   I'd say 2016,   2017,   it slowly started appearing.   And it got worse and worse and worse.   And they cleaned it once. They actually went up there and power washed it down, cleaned it, came right back.   People thought it was blood. People just throwing blood up there, but, like, if you just were throwing it randomly up there, it would be everywhere at different places. It's it's obviously poured in that 1 direction.   You know? It's   so there was intent to it.  

But I can't prove my, you know,   thinking on it's correct. But  

[01:22:10] Unknown:

Well, it certainly seems like whatever they were doing, they were using that altar and it was overflowing because you pointed out that it was right coming from that spot.   So it would certainly appear that they were doing something at least. Now what that was,   that's kind of what we're trying to conjecture on here.   And   what I what we're trying what I'm what I'm trying to figure out with my line of questioning here   because at this point, if when you took that block out, there wasn't any discoloration.   Whatever rituals were being done might have been done because,   say, local kids or or local p other occult people   of some sort,   you know, like, the   Jim and Sean were very close friends with Tracy Twyman. She had her own cult at 1 point little blood cult at 1 point in time. Like, people do some weird shit. Well, if you heard that there was a block removed and there was a little altar,   area inside the Georgia Guidestones,   and you are and your friends were into doing a cult stuff,   tell me you wouldn't necessarily maybe go do that.  



[01:23:19] Unknown:

Maybe they were maybe they were been the people that put it there. Maybe they were using using the, the rod. Because I know a rod goes in that keyhole, obviously. So maybe they were using it. Like  

[01:23:31] Unknown:

When you say rod, is this a a fleshy rod? Is it more of a wooden No.  

[01:23:38] Unknown:

No. Probably iron, I would guess. No. Gold.  

[01:23:42] Unknown:

Is this the is this the gas? There you go.   Gotta be gold.  

[01:23:46] Unknown:

Gold a golden rod. That makes sense.  

[01:23:49] Unknown:

And using lightning.  

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I mean  

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Okay. And it's hooked up to a capacitor, which is atop of 10 Commandments.   I mean, look who over in the ark of the covenant. It was a rod, and it was a a flask of manna, which is the white powder   would go in the dish. And there's the remains of 10 commandments   in stones. And there's 10 commandments there in stone. And on top of the   I that's what they're fucking getting at with this. On top of the northeast pillar, which is always the ceremonial sign, there's a place for a rod and a place for some powder.   Maybe they were using it. Maybe they were hooking it up to the fucking  

[01:24:26] Unknown:

whatever they're gonna hook it up to. Right. Turning it on, the technology. They were trying to put this through the series of events that the 10 commandments went through.   Exactly.   Replicate it in order to etch into the history of man   and and probably into the,   mindset of man   that  

[01:24:47] Unknown:

that same way that the 10 Commandments supposedly did. Right. And now those 10 commandments in Georgia are are they've been destructed. You know, they're   they're gone. So  

[01:25:00] Unknown:

yeah.   Fascinating.   And and does anybody know it was done with the the what was left?  

[01:25:08] Unknown:

Nope.  

[01:25:12] Unknown:

Well, I mean, they may say pieces of it or somewhere, but no. They're gonna use those. Like like, 1 would assume that they would have taken the pieces and put them up on eBay or some shit. You know?   Every conspiracy theorist in the fucking planet would own 12 pieces.  

[01:25:32] Unknown:

So this July date   keeps   appearing in the information we're looking at. This   memory of the Georgia guide dated July 2, 1982, I believe. What then is the significance of this   July period?  

[01:25:53] Unknown:

I mean, it's right after the solstice. I don't know if that has anything to do with it.  

[01:25:59] Unknown:

4th   July, America.   Yeah. These types of questions arise. Okay.   Could just be a peak travel time for people too to go and visit.  

[01:26:14] Unknown:

I would think it has something to do with,   either the Earth or the sun,   1 or the other.  

[01:26:21] Unknown:

Energetic alignments, trading lines, or ley lines? Yeah. Oh, yeah.  

[01:26:25] Unknown:

So there's something to do with   a week or so after the solstice   when the sun starts going down.   The time on that is really interesting too. I think it was, like, 303 or there's 333 right there. 403 and 33 seconds when it went off. Yep.  

[01:26:49] Unknown:

Yeah. July, it's 2022.   Yeah.   403   AM, and then it and the the seconds are Yeah. 33. Set 33.  

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Yeah.  

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State of Georgia   Bureau of Investigation,   the, FBI there shows up.  

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It would have been 303 at my time. 30333  

[01:27:12] Unknown:

at my time. The borrowers, the burrows are taken under the stones.   Yeah. With a silver car leaving the scene?   Is there significance to the metal silver in relation to the moon at all in in some ways?  

[01:27:33] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. I mean, that's the that's the main metal of that I mean, that is the symbolic metal of the moon,   It's  

[01:27:41] Unknown:

silver.   And they did moon rituals there. So yeah.  

[01:27:46] Unknown:

65 days later,   the darkness outside Elberton.   There's the documentary dark clouds over Elberton,   Dark Clouds Over Elborton.   Is that something you're familiar with? Do you associate with that in any way? I've heard of it. I don't I may have watched a little bit of it.  

[01:28:06] Unknown:

Sounds familiar.   Something weird with that light when it when it explodes, the light flashes too, but I'm not sure if it's it's an artifact of the video.   The light flashes.  

[01:28:22] Unknown:

Yeah.   No telling.  

[01:28:25] Unknown:

Like a power surge perhaps or something? It could be a video or artifact of the video, but I just thought that was weird.  

[01:28:33] Unknown:

Well, if if people have never everybody that thinks it was a it had to be a missile.   When you see electricity,   like lightning hit,   where it grounds out, it explodes out like that. That's it. That is and not it's not just lightning. Like,   have you ever seen a high voltage line, something in a high voltage line   where it goes to ground, it blows that part of it out. Yeah.  

[01:29:00] Unknown:

And those things are 2 foot thick. I mean,   I don't know.   I don't think it was just anybody just making a bomb at home. We're gonna go do it. No.   They knew what they were doing.  

[01:29:22] Unknown:

So you're feeling that there was a lightning rod placement   and possibility connecting that energy and then  

[01:29:30] Unknown:

letting nature have his way with it? No. Not for the explosion. I just meant   for,   whatever they were doing with the other stuff.   I think the lightning rod would be controlled.   It would be placed into a capacitor.   Some sort some sort of box that could hold the energy.  

[01:29:48] Unknown:

Well, then that that would be, yeah, lightning.  

[01:29:51] Unknown:

Yeah. It's controlled. It'll be controlled. Yeah.  

[01:29:54] Unknown:

And Yeah. And which, you know, basically would be the biblical story, wouldn't it? You know, lightning at least, you know, that wasn't that the damn 10 Commandments movie. You got Charlton Heston. Wasn't he  

[01:30:04] Unknown:

fucking Yeah. There. He was there. I seen it. So the arc of the covenant would be a capacitor, not a battery, but a capacitor that can hold as much we put into   it. So  

[01:30:18] Unknown:

You think that's what was in that,   cat you know, that secret   area?   Yeah. You you were saying that the you think that the thing that they exposed was not the thing?  

[01:30:33] Unknown:

I yeah. I mean, I can't prove it, but, yeah, I think it was there.  

[01:30:40] Unknown:

Yeah. It's a flux capacitor. Yeah.  

[01:30:49] Unknown:

Yeah.   Okay. Somebody post a a dark tower form? Weird.   Let's see.  

[01:31:02] Unknown:

Yeah. I found a forum, by doing a little bit of searching, and I   dropped it in the private chat just to see if maybe that was the same 1 that it used to be on. Yeah. That's it.   So interesting.  

[01:31:12] Unknown:

Yeah.   I never looked through it. I know it's kind of involved, but I might be able to find a copy of it.  

[01:31:19] Unknown:

Yeah. I was just curious. You know, like, the thing this Swahili thing and the actual words to the riddle is just a fascinating thing to me if that's where it all started for you is that because I know how it is being on forums.   Like, you get to know people and you even get very familiar with them   if you stick around and hang out, but that doesn't mean shit about knowing each other. You know? Like, you don't you don't don't you know, back then you wouldn't be on camera or even on audio.   So it's a weird thing   to   interact for long periods of time with people on a forum that's very different than interacting with people, audio, video, and especially very different than interacting in person. Like, you know, when I   met Marcus,   and Ben in person in Vegas,   even though I see him and I know him well, it's strange because now we're in 3 d. We're in the same place, you know, and we look   like we do on camera, but there's still features and things about them that are different. So to me, it's weird that you would be familiar with someone on there,   and then they drop this riddle on you. So it makes you wonder. Right? Like, okay. So is this person like an agent or they have an ulterior motive for being on the form the whole time, and they're grooming you and being friends with you? Or did someone   tap them 3rd party and say, hey. We know that you're talking to this guy. You wanna give him the riddle for us? You know, it's it's  

[01:32:34] Unknown:

just a curious thing. You know? I think it that would be the more likely option.  

[01:32:38] Unknown:

Right. Yeah.  

[01:32:41] Unknown:

Because I was involved with a a certain fraternity at the time that   I kinda backed out of at the last minute.   And then Right. It was a few weeks after that that that popped up.  

[01:32:56] Unknown:

Right. So it's hard not to imagine that being connected at that point. Right? Like, okay. So I kinda backed off. I did a 180, and then all of a sudden I'm being invited to solve a riddle. So maybe they're asking you back in without asking you back in. Right? You know? Correct. And there was  

[01:33:11] Unknown:

a there was an incident at the house I was living in about a week or so before, and   that kind of made me turn around on it. I was like, no. Right.   He mentioned that he was looking for a black and white dog at 3 o'clock in the morning.   I'm like, amen. You know?  

[01:33:38] Unknown:

God is dog backwards.   Yeah. So, you know, another riddle to solve   with the, liminal space and the dream log logic language of   occultism and magic,  

[01:33:53] Unknown:

you know. Oh, and then that's the witching hour, 2 to 3 AM, you know. So Yeah.  

[01:33:59] Unknown:

Sure. So there's a lot of different streams and currents and energies and groups and   forces and peoples and personalities all   kind of meeting at the same touchstone   place   to stir things up.   How is the energy now?   And have you have you been back to that   that town, that area, that site since?  

[01:34:24] Unknown:

No. I haven't been back since I was there for court.   And no. I haven't been back. I wanted to go back after the explosion and just see the place for what it was,   but   haven't made it yet.   There's nothing keeping me from going there. I mean, I'm not not allowed in town or anything.  

[01:34:46] Unknown:

It's wrong. It's just a feeling. Right? Yeah.  

[01:34:49] Unknown:

It's I don't know.   It's a weird place. It's   like I said, I've been to Roswell,   and it's got that same feeling to it. Like, you're being watched.   Just the people there just seem weird.  

[01:35:03] Unknown:

Yeah. There's a place in Washington like that that trips me out. It's called Goldendale.   It's up on the hill. There's a star observatory up there. And every time I've been there, it's the same thing. It's like, this place is just weird. It seems off. It seems like all the old people are on dope or something or that there's something in the water. You know? Like, they're like,   you know, like, it's just it's not right. I don't like being there. Yeah.  

[01:35:25] Unknown:

You said there's a observatory net there? There is. Yes. Okay.  

[01:35:30] Unknown:

Say the name of it again.  

[01:35:32] Unknown:

Goldendale Goldendale, Washington, and it's it's very close.   It's it's on a huge ridge above the Columbia River. So   at a very significant very close to a significant junction   in the highway.   Because, well, your story always makes me think of,   James Shelby Downard and his, geomancy, for for lack of a better word, you know, the idea of geomantic magic of,   everything lining up,   you know, all the numerology, astrology, and all that stuff, but then also   the location and the time   physically in the earth. Correct. It seems I guess that vibe, you know, like, that that's what they were leading or encouraging you to   in my mind, that's just my intuitive gut feeling has always been, okay. They need a man to take these steps in these places at this particular time,   and somehow they encouraged you or or allowed you to to become a participant in that regard. You know?  



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Well, I agree.   Actually, a couple miles from the site   is the the place where the, the Cherokee Nation say they came out of the ground. They came up from the center of the earth.   It's,  

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trippy.  

[01:36:46] Unknown:

It's about 2 miles from the place. It's in Hartwell.  

[01:36:50] Unknown:

Hartwell,   Cherokee Nation.  

[01:36:53] Unknown:

Yeah. It says I could find it, but I can't   really pronounce it. It's called Cherokee Center of the Earth. It's where they say they came out of the ground after   some sort of catastrophe happened. It's center of the world. I'm sorry.  

[01:37:06] Unknown:

I've heard of that long ago. Yeah.  

[01:37:09] Unknown:

Yeah. It's in Hartwell. It's a it's a few miles from that place.   Yeah.   It's for the Cherokee Met to hold their tribal council.   But, basically, it's where they they said they came back out. They went down into the ground, and then during a catastrophe happened, and then they came back up from the ground.   That spot.  

[01:37:38] Unknown:

1 has to imagine that 1 has to imagine that's a   electromagnetic   storm.  

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Right. Yeah. The plasma the plasma   apocalypse that they talk about. Yep.   So maybe it's worth Granite capital of the world.  

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So do you see this is the center of the world monument marker,   US Highway 29 South, Hartwell, Georgia 30   643.   It reads, this was   and I'll try to pronounce this. Ayelee   alohi,   the center of the world.   Won't say that 3 times. Yeah.   To the Cherokee Indians,   to this assembly ground,   from which trails radiate in many directions, they came to hold their councils, to dance and worship, which were to them related functions and to barter their hides, furs, and blankets Mhmm. For the trade goods of the white men from Augusta   and other settlements. At 1 time, there was a move to establish here the Hart County   seat.  

This site was also a noted roost in the days when the now extinct passenger pigeons migrated here in the autumn in such numbers that their weight broke the tree limbs. Weird.  

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Yeah. That's not very far from the the guy's stones. Couple of miles.  

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Yeah. It says here it's about 22 and a half miles depending on which route you take. Oh. We go on 77, it says 19.4   miles.   Because I just I've you know, since we were talking about   geo you know, earth magic, I figured, well, let's just look at the map.  

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Yeah. I thought they were closer than that, but, no, that's   close enough.  

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So you're not living in the area anymore, not that?   Or no. You said you never were. You said you went over there. You're like, if I you said you were fired. I'm in I'm in East Alabama.  

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So Okay.   But, I mean, I never heard of these things until that riddle. So you would think I'd heard of them before. I mean, I grew up in Alabama.   Just nope. Never heard of them.  

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Yeah. But it wasn't so long ago that the world wasn't like it is now.   Where people you know, when I moved from Sacramento, California to Walla Walla, Washington,   you know, I was   perceived by all of the young ladies at the high school as a fascinating and attractive specimen, and all the young men at the high school wanted to stomp my guts out because I danced like MC Hammer, and I knew about Vanilla Ice and all this. You know, I had a mullet and and a or a gold chain around my neck. So they thought I was a alien or something, you know, but nowadays,   everybody knows about everything, all the culture kinda hits all at once across the Internet and the media. But it used to be   Yeah. Like, I knew all the lyrics to some of the popular songs that were coming out on the radio, and then that would trip people out because it had been available in California for maybe 6 months or a year, and it was just barely getting to the small town out in Washington. You know?  

What you said? You you were talking about 20 2012, 2013   when you did first got involved?  

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Oh, no. This is,   I solved that riddle, like, in   2004.  

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Yeah. See. So the Internet   was only popular on college campuses or with corporations or government people, you know, people knew about it. In Indianapolis, and I remember,  

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it was 99   when Internet first came to Bloomington, and Bloomington was a it's not a Dina. You know, it's not super snooty, but Bloomington's a   major city that's fairly wealthy.   And,   they didn't get it till right around 99.  

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Right. 90 We were messing around with it in 94   and 96, but that's because   our friends were at Pullman,   WSU.   And so then they had access, you know, if you were affiliated with the college, but it wasn't like you could just kick it on the Internet and do whatever you want. It was all message boards like Will was talking about. Oh, yeah. Early AOL  

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chat chat rooms. Yeah. Exactly.  

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Yeah. ICQ.   Yep. Isaac You. I used to kick it on ICQ.   That's how I got addicted to this Internet. ICQ.  

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Oh, it all changed it all changed when we switched over from flip phones to the touch screens. Yep. That's what it Absolutely.   And, of course, they had that 50 years before we got them.   Right.   These are just throwaway toys   to to them. You know?  

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Yeah. But we would be shocked to see what technology they have,   mastered and available to themselves. I'm sure we would be very shocked.  

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I'm sure it's peak. You know? I'm sure it's   peak for the universe. I mean, whatever you can attain, they've got it. I would imagine.  

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I always imagine 4 d interactive   hologram rooms, you know, not a headset that you have to put on. Yeah. But that there's something that just projects into the room and the whole thing's interactive, you know. It's your consciousness. I mean, it's  

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it's who we are. They know what the universe is. I mean, they they know. They have hard drives that infinite amount of storage space.   I mean, look up how many hours are uploaded to YouTube every minute.   Yeah. That's crazy. There's no way they're stockpiling that shit in the, like,   finite store hard drives. No.   They have an infinite hard drive.   Just a black hole.  

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That's why they had to develop these AIs to figure out how to run around in there and tell them how to get data back. Because when we were younger, that's what I used to tell people that they can they can spy all they want, but you have to have eyes.   Some set of eyes has to be there to to interpret what it means. And it didn't used to be that there would be enough people on my mind. I'm like, they don't have enough agents to read all of the text messages and everything we're sending. But now they have AI to parse and parse and parse and scrape and scrape all that info, and then so then they can get data. You know?   Exactly. And then they turn us all into a little tiny pussycat.  



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So then if   if there's associations   between these guidestones and the idea of the apocalypse,   the apocalypse being more of a, revealing   more so than, like, a destructive   end of humanity event, but the 2 somehow   coincide   with,   that idea   tying it into technology.   And when the stones were destroyed, what is the connection, if any,   with what we're talking about, this AI confluence convergence Internet   thing, where now it's just it exists. It's out of control.   You know, going back 2 years ago,   looking to today with, like everyone's talking about AI now, but 2 years ago, AI was   still there. So was there an AI technological event that happened coinciding around the time of the destruction of the stones in in your opinion at all?  



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That's a good question.   I haven't really thought about that. I do know 1 of the, 1 of the commandments on there or whatever you wanna call them. This is create a new living language.   So   1 of them was to create a new living language. So I've I've always wondered what that was, what the new language would be.   And it's I would imagine it's   artificial intelligence or something to do with technology.   So   because everyone can use it. You know, you can   you can use,   translators to get around whatever language you're using. You know? I mean,   now they have headphones, it'll whenever somebody's speaking at the UN, it'll translate it right into your language.  

Yeah. So   I think the new language would be some sort of technological   technological   artificial   go between between your body and the computer.   That's   and like I said,   the stuff we buy or the stuff we use now, they're   that stuff's been waiting on us for 50   years. Who knows how many   how many years or so?   Yeah.  

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Would you like to go back to 1980 and and see a dedication video?  

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Yeah. The big trash bag around it?   Yeah. Let's see. I've seen that.   I've seen pictures. I don't think I've seen the video.   Looks like a big garbage bag hanging over.  

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Yeah. Over 951   cubic feet of granite   make up the 11 pieces   of the monument.   The overall height is 19 feet 3 inches from the surface of the ground to the top of the capstone.   Thank you. There are slots and holes in the center stone that have astrological   significance because they have been cut at precise angles to permit accurate readings of the sun and moon at various times of the year.  

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Standing on the highest point of Elbert County, the Georgia Guidestones have raised a lot of questions.   4 upright stones more than 16 feet high with support stones totaling almost £238, 000.   That was fine. And there's a message sandblasted in 12 languages and letters 2 inches tall.   The sponsors of the mysterious project are said to be an anonymous group of out of state Americans promoting the concept of the conservation of mankind.   Here's the mystery though. Elberton Granite businessman, Joe Finley, was contacted to build a project by a man using the fictitious name of RC Christian.   Granite City Bank president Wyatt Martin served as intermediary,   handled the escrow account for all funds, and says he'll carry the secret of who RC c Christian is to his grave.  

Well, in spite of what we don't know, congressman Doug Barnard dedicated the Guidestones with an open mind.   We must stress today the need for self control,   for self restraint,   and, yes,   self government.   All of which I interpret   in this Georgia Guidestone.   The sense of permanence is there, and we do know this.   The Georgia Guidestones are some of the largest granite monuments ever erected,   and they can be seen for years to come on Georgia Highway 77, 7 miles north of Elberton.   Matt Hunt, action news on the scene in Northeast Georgia.  

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And whenever you like to drive in the future, you  

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inspect the money. So that idea is self governance, and then the book is called Common Sense Renewed Common Sense   from Thomas Bain's book,   carrying on the idea of,   governance of some kind.  

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Yeah. I'd like to see the math   from somebody who's an explosives expert to say how much.   It's just not like you're just gonna go stick a couple sticks of dynamite next to that thing, and nothing's gonna happen. It won't do anything to it. You know how? Such a substantial piece of stone. The the kind of a bomb you would need would be really insane to knock it down.   Actually, it doesn't make sense that a bomb would build you'd have to I don't know how you would do it because it would make such a crater if you put it at the base of the stone on the ground.   Substantial hole on the ground.  

It doesn't make sense. Yeah. It seems directed,  

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like,   it was   concentrated at 1 point. I didn't even think about the crater. It would leave.   Yeah.   And  

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again, no. But if it was just a lightning rod and it just drew lightning   Right. Like, it touched like a blow up. Appears.   Yeah.   There's real problems with,   as an electrician,   we had to start taking   when they,   these concrete companies, when they started upgrading their   the things that they had to do, it included adding a lot of rebar,   adding a lot of things like that.   Well, then they started   doing electrical   tie to the grounding.   Well, they were occasionally if something grounded out, it was blowing out, like, whole corners of the fucking buildings.   So they had to go and do a whole grid tie ground   and ground that whole fucking thing out separately so it don't fucking blow out the entire corner of a building.  

You see it when it I seen a guy, it wasn't lightning.   Me was carrying a fucking aluminum ladder   over his shoulder. Oh, shit. And fucking walked by a high voltage line, hit that high voltage line, blew the whole his whole fucking heel right out. Just blah.   He died. I mean, you know, blew his brain too. But  

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They talk about the elevation   stating it's the highest point in the area. What what did it what it feel like driving up to it? Did your ears pop? Did you notice an elevation change?  

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Not really. I mean, it's pretty flat in Georgia. Right?  

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Relatively. Yeah.   No. I didn't really notice much about the elevation of it. I I know it is the highest point in that area. Sure. So with the story of Moses, Moses going up to a high point, a mountain, and receiving stones.   Yeah. Like, tiger.   Yeah. Yep.  

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It's the burning bush story as well. Yep.  

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I find the Babylon stuff interesting. That was the first thing I thought about. It was, like, the languages are broken up.   And   if we do have a new language being created, we're gonna be all be using it. So all the languages will become to 1. So  

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we're back But then you also then you also definitely know that they're going by the Abrahamic story because   the Tower of Babel story   is 1 of the big ones that only the Abrahamic   cultures have. No. But there so, like, the flood story,   that's basically present in every single culture at some point. Right. Right. The   the Tower of Babel,   that doesn't exist   in most other cultures.   Only Abrahamic.   So it's definitely Abrahamic derivative.  

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Oh, definitely with the, the keyhole in the dish and the 10 commandments and stuff. Sure. Yeah. I could see that.   What about the ark of the covenant? Is that   only  

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Not in any other culture.  

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Yeah. Not that I know of. I never heard of it. It's it's just it's just comes from the Jews.   Yep. Well   the Christians The Abraham then that right.   Comes from the Jews, but then the Christians and the, Muslims   have their part in it because those also stem from the original   from from father Abraham. Yeah.  

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Yeah.   Well, it's interesting then that the everybody has the flood,   but then   what comes after the flood, you have 1 of these   certain ways of thinking   that involve maybe   the earth and tools and stuff like that come from the flood.  

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Well, my my   my personal thought on it is   there because again,   for me, I've been I've put quite a bit of time into investigating this whole Germanic versus Latin,   duality that's happened in the western world. Yeah.   And   when you look at it in in that world,   the the Abrahamic   the people in the Abrahamic Babylonian,   they are they represent civilization.   And and, honestly, when you look at the histories and the way they're recorded,   according to, the histories that is the world   at some point in time, the the entire world is just that little area.   The rest of the world was still there. It still existed,   though we just don't pay attention to them fucking histories and don't teach them in our schools. Like,   And so they   right. And literally, there are mentions even of other areas. Those are barbarian lands. This is the world.  

Those are barbarian lands. So it's just a language,   difference that we end up getting into with that.   So for me,   when we look at it then,   the Abrahamic world and the Latin world is very much civilization.   They're all about large civilization.   The Germanic world and,   that area, they were very tribal.   So it's very much   even when you look at Latin versus Germanic in this whole,   thing that I'm looking at, this whole theory I've been working on.   Also included in that would be civilization   versus tribal,   where 1 tries to make this 1 big giant board group,   and then the other 1 is more of an independent   small localized   groups. So very much just the Borg,   self, you know, the unity and self thing. You know? Like, you you start seeing this whole pattern of different dualities that all kind of merge there in that 1 specific spot. It's a it's   a western civilization thing I've been looking at for a while. Would that be a Cain and Abel type metaphor there?  

Yeah. Very much so. But except for,   Cain. So in that metaphor, Cain goes out and mixes with the non Hebrew people. Correct.   He comes back with because now, again, we see that same trick of language happen   where   Adam and Eve were the first humans,   but then,   Cain goes out and gets a wife, then that wife had parents and grandparents and all that shit. Okay. Yeah. So Yeah. Those people already existed. Right. So when they're saying humans, they're claiming that Hebrews are the only humans and all the other people weren't human. Right.   Just like all the other lands weren't part of the world, they were just shitty barbarian lands. So you gotta remember that when you're think when and we are taught   at this point,   a a Latin history a Latin history. And if you,   colleges is the high all higher thinking is Latin derivative   according to our higher education,   and it's horseshit.  

But   that's that's the story that they push.  

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Not sure.   So   maybe that makes the, book of Enoch a little bit more credible then, maybe. I don't know.   I don't know.  

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For for me, I don't I personally don't,   discredit   actually even their books.   But for me,   our people were born at the same time.   Like,   Odin and, like, the Germanic people appeared   on their own,   not derivative   from   the people from the   Mediterranean region.   Yeah. Those people were all their own people. They aren't interrelated.   And so when there's different creation stories, I believe those different areas, those people did appear there. So fine. Have your fucking weird fucking desert god story. I don't give a shit.   Yeah. You know? I don't understand why so many of my friends like Sean here. Look at this white motherfucker. He ain't gonna live out in a fucking desert. Why is he   I seen it in Las Vegas. I had fucking scorched fucking moisturizer on him while we were driving. And there's a there's a typographical  

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error. It was a dessert god, and it he was leading us to the land of milk and honey. And I definitely I am descended directly from a translation.  

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My mom is a dessert god, so that's true that I'm descended from dessert god.   Now if you look into the work of Jonathan Maktimis from the ovary project, he'll point out to you that it's much more likely that the entire,   Hebrew story is actually the some of the Germanics, the Celts maybe, and that it all happened here in North America. Now I'm not saying I believe that 100%.   And really, with the benefit I've gotten from it is more about, a spiritual thing than it is about a history thing. I really don't give a fuck about where it all happened.   I'm I've been able to do inner work that's valuable to me. But other than that, it's all fun to debate, but I don't I don't think it happened in the Middle East personally. I don't. I think that the more there's a book that, I listened to it once on the PDF reader, and I've been trying to sit down and read it, but you know how it is. Some books, you really have to have that peace of mind to you can't just kinda skim over. And it's called the Bible versus the Middle East. Yeah. Smell it. Exactly. It's called the Bible versus the Middle East, and he's laying out the case that the Middle East model doesn't match. It doesn't work. Because they ain't talking about   cutting down all these trees to build the house of the Lord and all this stuff, and there's no evidence. They say, oh, well, desertification   happened,   and that used stuff used to all be there, but now it's gone. But if you look at it close,   it does not line up or match. It's not right. The resources of North America are the most valuable, most amazing   resources on earth, and to me that's not even really debatable. You can look all around, unless they've got hidden land, this is the spot to be, especially the more you get North and West,   you know, from the great lakes over to,   California   is just rich   with everything you would need to to build to, you know,   to to build up a a world.  



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And I don't see any evidence that that those resources weren't available. I mean, if you got you can imagine,   supposedly, during this time period, there was a feel like California was an island. So like all the air, all the resources we've tapped since then, those would have been underwater.   The entire Midwest was an inland sea. None of that. Our whole breadbasket of America   was so maybe, you know, in those 1000 of years,  

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this terraformed and became an area that Right. And that's why it's rich maybe too. I mean, so that makes sense too. That the reason it's rich is because it was developing,   and then things changed, and it's like, oh, shit. You know? Because once something's   you know, if we leave gold bars on the ground, people are gonna come pick them up. You know, there's not gonna be very many left. So and it's the same with any resource. If we just leave pennies on the ground, people are gonna pick them all up. They're not gonna sit there. So   But I don't I do like your idea that,   that we can honor each creation story as plausible and possible   so that it it doesn't have to be, oh, well, we're choosing 1.  

You know? Maybe the Yeah. Germanic,   tribes according to your resources   really did really were developed the metaphor or whatever you wanna call it that it that we were made from trees.   Okay? So that can make sense   And so can the idea that you were made out of mud or made out of the dust of the earth. It can make sense. That were available to you at the time.  

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So so for me, we're kinda all little god homuncula   homunculus.   So I so I also included in this theory, Everybody gets a peek in how crazy I can be at sometimes. Fucking at this point. Right? We're just fucking laying it out tonight.   Fucking,   included in that theory is that   some of us, like,   you know so when they were making those pieces,   like, I think that the reason some people can smell ants is because I think there's ant in their DNA.   And because to me, the whole reason that you can smell an ant   when an that scent is to a signal to other ants. Don't fucking come over here. Man, things are fucking us up over here. Don't come over here. And so that scent is a warning.  

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And so I and if you are 1 of those people that can smell ants, it's horrifying. You definitely don't wanna go in that area. You're like, oh, god. Oh, god. Get the fuck out of here. And it it's bad. Right. Same for people that that they taste cilantro and it tastes like soap. Right? That means something. Like, why? Why is cilantro really bad to you? Or a buttermilk is an example, you know. I don't drink milk really very often anymore or use any dairy. But back in the day, you know, I'm in love with a woman who appreciates buttermilk and she likes to use it every, Christmas sometimes it comes up. To me, it tastes like really, really significantly bitter. Not like, oh, I don't like it. Like, it's gross. It tastes rotten and bitter, but I know it doesn't taste that way to everybody who likes it because that's not what they're describing. But it's definitely rotten. It's it's I mean, on purpose, but still, just like you talking about the fecundity of dirt.   Okay? The rot that comes into buttermilk is the same. Okay? So it starts to transform   and it will become putrid, but that first step,  

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it's so maybe it's not desirable like sugar. Is it becomes butter? So what what happens is,   obviously,   especially for somebody that's only has 1 yard count,   a a cow only produces so much cream. So you gotta let that cream, that milk sit, let the cream rise to the top. You do it again tomorrow, you do it for 3, 4 days. Well, you get   this pile of cream. Well, then you take and you squish out that pile of cream and you squish it out. And literally, the buttermilk is that   leftover stuff after you've squished out the cream   to make the butter. And, sir, that's been sitting around for   3, 4 days. It's tangy.  

It's tangy. Right.  

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Right. But, see, to be okay, so if it's really powerfully tangy, I could understand someone might like it. I might even be able to get used to it. What I taste   is it's bitter.   It's like   but more bitter than kratom, and kratom is very bitter.   It's, you know, like, it's bitter. Like, I don't want that. So we're at an interesting point in this, exploratory  

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conversation where I would bring in some of the stuff I was looking at recently   with the idea   of milk and butter   in its,   there's a time limit on that before it just spoils.   So with the infrastructure of America having all these dairy farms   and then the incentive to produce   as much milk as possible, that milk cannot   be consumed   as quickly   as is needed. So if, there's a lot of milk in the spring,   but then milk is more purchased in the fall when school opens. So, like, the school lunch program kind of requires a lot of milk, but that gets in the the solution that the USDA found with preserving that milk in the form of blocks of what they'd call, in quotes, cheese,   like a as a pasteurized   cheese like product that they would would then take the milk and create the cheese, and then they'd store it in the caves underground.  



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Well, because the the cream itself doesn't really go bad, especially when you isolate it. So what you end up finding out, you know, because raw butter and especially just chuck a little salt in there, that'll last for a fucking long time. Just sitting there. You don't even gotta do nothing special to it. But that stuff you squished out,   that's already many.  

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Sure. Sure. And that and I and I don't want to remain on the topic of cheese   indefinitely. That's just a way point marker in the conversation to lead to the fact that   not everyone   processes dairy products. So there's this lactose intolerance in certain people groups   that just they don't they don't have cheese in their culture. So if we're talking about origin stories,   different groups of people, and how to identify them, it could be as simple as   a cheese test. Yes. You get feed them cheese   and feed them more cheese and feed them more cheese and see, do they thrive,   or do they get violently   ill?  

And that could be a distinction. Those are God's chosen people.  

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If you wanna make a qualification   for God's chosen people,   it's the ones that thrive on cheese.   Fuck you, meat, wine, cheese, eating lunch.  

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Yeah. I found an article here looking for a scientific study about people smelling ants, and that headline is people are learning others can smell ants and it's freaking them out. And I saw some of those comments. So bad.   You can smell them? I can't smell ants. So  

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They they smell like kinda like brake fluid. You know how brake fluid's got that weird fluid. Oily chemical smell to it, and it's kinda oily. It kinda sticks in your nose. Like, if you accidentally smell a shit I've and it smelled like that to me. I would be killing them and getting away from them because it would be No. You don't wanna kill it. You just wanna get the fuck away because if you kill it, that smell stuck to your hands, kinda like if you hold a garter snake No. I meant with poison. Man. I don't like touching it. Yeah. Yeah. No. I don't wanna  

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if anyone's ever,   gotten brake   cleaner or probably brake fluid all over their hands and then you use   gasoline to wash it off. The smell and the feeling of your hands is not cool, man. It's not cool. Or you smoke a cigarette and get that little bit of brake fluid on your lip.  

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Now now we're into the topic area of, pheromones, like the the aroma and the scent that bodies naturally give off, and how does that   tie into dating and mating and and pairing and, you know, tribal  

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arranged marriages and that sort of thing. Well, I think blood type's gonna play a factor into this too.  

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Right. So it's just the bigger question   of specifically with origin stories and maintaining populations in this general theme of, like, tribalism   and governance   and people groups, and there's   there's the idea that we're all 1.   Yes. We're all the same.   Maybe. But what are the differences?   And in points of history,   if the story of Adam and Eve   begins   a lineage of a distinctly different   human   in terms of maybe the the brain, the physiology.   It's like,   a separation from what we might call Neanderthal   caveman,   Flintstone   to modern white Caucasian sort of thing.  

And this is where people get really upset or really interested or both at the same time. And then it's sort of like, it's difficult to talk about these things and separate   cultural traditions from skin colors and melanin and tribal histories and infighting,   and then you get, like,   biblical translations that people are   seeking the the same and the differences in, like, Latin Vulgate, and and people are still arguing over translations   of this document.   And I'm just gonna throw in 1 more thing   while it's still on my mind. The events of the Georgia Guidestones, the entire   ritual drama presentation from the first unveiling of it to the public, to the very public destruction of it, and we see the parallels of   this, Mosaic   Abrahamic   family line storyline   kind of   paralleling that story.  

And then does that create a new sort   of division   in the timeline to say what 2022   and technology and the idea of, like, this homotechno,   this sort of transhuman   man machine   figure, now is that   a guide stone pointing towards the fact that they've established a new   kind of human at this point?  

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God. And that really sticks out with the,   the r the, RNA mRNA vaccines.   Right. For sure. They're literally changing the DNA of all the humans.  

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Yeah. The destruction of the stones happened right in the middle of all that. It's  

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Just a coincidence. Yeah.  

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Which you're taking this destruction to be basically, like,   almost like when you take a sigil and you burn it in order to activate it. Right. You're taking that destruction as an activation.  

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Right. Correct.   Yes.  

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It sure seems that way because it doesn't it doesn't make sense to me that they claim that it's some kinda active strange vandalism or terrorism. Like, the the whole thing happened just like every other event like this that we see, like 911. Right? Okay. So something happens completely   that's significant in every single way you look at it now. It's been decades, and there's you can't stop digging a cult information out of the event. And they swoop the whole thing up and move it away. Like, the Twin Towers is a significant   pile of metal,   and they swooped in there. People died   to get that stuff out of there. You know? And same thing. The guide stones like you said. Oh, it's going down. Oh, they knocked the rest of it down, and it's gone.  



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Like Right. So I I would then put out the question,   the Georgia Guidestones, how do they relate to the idea of guided   evolution? Like, that's a Guidestone. We hit that point. And now from here on out, it's it's a different story for humanity.  

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Dude, Cozy, were you there for my cheese rant?   Somebody's gotta clip it and send it to her if you weren't.   Posey's my cheese buddy.  

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I definitely think it was some sort of marker in the timeline like you're saying. Yeah. Like, it's   a flash point, some sort of,  

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hey. We're we're doing we're doing something else now. It's Right. Because I see Notre Dame is the same thing too. All of a sudden, Notre Dame Oh, yeah. They took the Saints   on Notre Dame and took their heads off first   and then lifted them off of the tops of the buildings, and then the building catches on fire. But nothing's really damaged. You know?   Yeah. Except for that steeple. They burned up that steeple. You know?  

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And we started it was just at the beginning of this conversation. We started talking about DNA, and then Marcus brought up whether some people is because of they they can't eat cheese. And then I said, god's chosen people   are the ones that can eat cheese. This is a fact.   The rest of them are weak.  

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Yeah. My son can't eat cheese. He has to have pizza with no cheese.  

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Fuck that. Then it's even is it even pizza anymore? Just breadsticks. Right. Yeah. Marinara sauce.  

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I'm gonna try to get him do some goat cheese, but he's not there yet. Well, I'd also try so most of people that can't eat,  

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products, it's usually commercial products that's a problem. And people don't when they started doing all these different health studies and they start claiming these effects,   they didn't go bother taking the fucking time to   do   the same study and put in things that are done   organically in small farm grown.   So when you're looking at,   dairy specifically,   there's an a 1 protein and an a 2 protein.   Now cows that produce the a 1 protein are like Holsteins   and these giant milk cows that produce 8 gallons of milk a day, give or take.   And they're great for commercial milking.  

You know, you're trying to sell 1, 000 of gallons.   Well, a 2 cows are your mini jerseys,   your Dexter's,   your typical yard cow that a guy can keep   and take care of fairly easily and go out and milk.   Those have a 2 milk. Most people that react to dairy products,   they have a reaction to the a 1 protein.   And if you give them a 2a2   milk, they don't have that reaction at all.  

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How does that translate over to vaccines   then? Which   which part of the   of   the bovine,   whatever they use in the vaccines, would would that make a difference? Or is it No. That's an interesting fucking question. I hadn't thought about that, Will.  

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It's a delivery mechanism for a guided evolution.  

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That's fascinating.   And and then Hebrew world to to to,   prepare a sacrifice, you wash it with whole milk.   Raw milk   to prepare a sacrifice so that there's an interconnection there with that bovine already. That's fascinating.   Yeah. Hadn't thought of that.  

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Vaca. Yeah.   If I have the room, I'd have a cow, but I don't have the room at the moment.  

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Well, and that's the problem as we've moved to this commercial system where our food is so bad, but it's so bad because it's commercially grown. Like, if you've ever eaten   any of the other cauliflowers   besides that tastes like goddamn gym socks cauliflower that you find in 99.9%   of the stores. Yeah.   Like a nice golden cauliflower   or,   the Romanesco   green cauliflower.   Delicious.   Amazing.   The ones that grow best commercially usually aren't the nutritious ones nor the flavorful ones.   It's just the ones that grow big.  

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Right. Same with everything. With bananas, like, we got raspberries growing in we bought some raspberries at the store. They're pretty good. But we got golden raspberries growing in the backyard.   I'm a go out there and eat a handful of them tomorrow as soon as they'll get up. They're so yummy. They taste so significantly better.   But I very rarely see those at the store because I assume   trying to grow them on 10, 000 bushes, pull them all off, wash them, make sure they're okay, put them on a trucks in a refrigerator truck and send them somewhere. It doesn't turn out right. You know? They're soft. They're softer than the red ones.   Yep. Got me thinking of golden cauliflower. I haven't had this for a while. I gotta find out where they got this. That green stuff's a little too hard for my taste. You gotta cook it really a long time. Meth meth smell smells like,  

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somebody started the underside of your sink on fire.  

[02:17:05] Unknown:

Well, that's how you make it.   Yeah. That's basically how you make it, and that's how A little bit more controlled experiment than that, but it's pretty close. You know, you could probably get pretty close to a derivative.   I did hear a story that, you could hook up electrodes to a wire fence   and just spray,   raid   on an electrified fence and make it, but, you know, I never tried.  

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Say what?  

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Somebody told me that. Somebody told me that you could electrify,  

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a I mean, you're obviously doing electrolysis on the on the raid itself, but what molecule   are you fucking breaking apart   that's gonna give   I I don't understand what how, where  

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Well, you know I mean, I'm not saying that We'll know which neighborhoods, real close to the harbor we could drive into and get the information, but I don't think it's safe for us to go over there and ask those guys. Those guys down there in Bama definitely know how to do it.  

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Fucking shake and bait capital.  

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Oh, yeah.  

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Yeah. I'm like I remember when they did a they did a spot on the news about guys using Mountain Dew bottles to make meth in their front lawn, and I was cracking up. I was like, wow. The world is going off the deep end. Now the world that seems normal now by contrast to how world weird the world has become.  

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Dude, people wish that would come back. Fentanyl is a fucking monster.  

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No kidding.   That's the way it always goes. You think something's bad and you complain about it, and then years later, you're like, I guess that wasn't actually bad. Like, Bill Clinton as president.   I know this is 1 I I like to say that because, it gets under Balderson's skin.  

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Yeah. I I was gonna I I'm I was honestly   we always said here to and going.   Goddamn it. Most of our problems today stem from that cunt. What the fuck are we even talking about? He wasn't the worst.  

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Yeah. But he looked he definitely looked better on TV than these guys were watching this week.  

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He can't even play Jacksonville. I I I we had that good old boy  

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act down, you know, like, kinda innocent good old boy. You know, eat too many cheeseburgers or big macs and go for a run with your dog. You know?  

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Yeah. No. It's he could sit up there and, like, call black kids super predators and not it's not racist, Megan.   It's not racist. We just gotta we just gotta walk in little fucking super predators up,   and then we can talk about whether they're decent people or what we'll do with them after we've locked all that motherfuckers up. That wasn't racist. Yeah. Having fucking   having fucking,   you know,   hanging out with some of the people that he was is just like, wow.   Wow. I mean,   evolved to that party to the point where now we have Joe Biden who is literally hanging out with no literal KKK members   and being   called said that he didn't want his kids in an integrated school because it didn't want integration at all because that would that would turn in his schools into a jungle.  

Like,   fucking and that guy's out there going, if you ain't black,   if you didn't vote for me, you ain't black.   Yeah. No worries.   I don't know if anybody watched the debate, which I normally wouldn't have watched the debate, but I heard   so many   crazy things about it. I had to watch it just out of no.   It wasn't that bad, was it?   It was like fucking and,   Trump brought up the super predator thing, and Joe Biden just looks out.   Like, what are you talking about? Like, dude, we got the fucking Internet, bro. Like, most of us were alive. We remember that. You your only literal political achievement   was the 3 strikes loss.  

Like, in the mandatory minimums.   That is your you authored that shit. That's your claim to political   achievement.   Like, are you kidding me, bro?  

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Didn't he sign, like, some kind of pre   precursor to the Patriot Act?   I do believe it.   Mhmm. It's around 94, 95.   He's sponsored some bill to   basically bring out or use the NSA to start tapping our phones, but it wasn't   it wasn't fully brought in until 2001.   I forget the name of it though.  

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It's been a while. 90   95, we just about went to war with, North Korea.   Would have been the big scare that year.  

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Well, right after right after he did that bill, we had the Oklahoma City bombing.   So I think   Yeah. Yeah. Preparing everybody to have their have their phones and everything being surveilled. So   he was part of the whole mass surveillance stuff.  

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My best friend from junior high was supposed to be on the jury, but she had,   spina bifida. And so the   duration, they end up removing her because it was gonna be too much of a duration.  

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But for Oklahoma City?  

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. The, trial was,   outside of Denver. It was in Aurora.  

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Oh, yeah.  

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And I and in junior high, I lived in Longmont. So my best friend from junior high school was,   got tapped for that and but she ended up getting opted out because she had spina bifida.   Not bad, but sitting for 10 months. And I they were they were saying, you know, Kyle would take, like, a year. So a year of all day every day sitting in 1 in a jury chair.  

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Might, bring up a brief topic over to Skye here.   The,  

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A member of the family. The ass,  

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ang,   Assange,   Julian.   Weird.   July,   Assange.   There's so much weirdness surrounding this   character   and   the Midwest being underwater, WikiLeaks drip, drip, drip, getting up drips and you get a flood of information,   And all of it is used against us to confuse us and to disable us, certainly.   And putting together all the all the pieces of this this, puzzle   of, whatever it is,   it's gonna be   a a task greater than any 1 person can handle.  

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Well, what's most disturbing is him pleading guilty.   So when you tack that in with the Alex Jones trial,   what you have is is you see in the last just couple years,   truth going to trial   and losing.   And, of course, the 2 guys that are   in court pleading guilty or, you know, fucking,   control lock type guys.   So now you can be sued for saying shit.   You know, no free real freedom of speech in civil court. They can start taking away your money.   And   with Julian Assange, they could take away your freedom   because at the end of the day, the original charges which were,   I believe,   the equivalent of statutory   rate   was the original charges,   and there's no statutory rate charges at all anymore.  

All that shit's gone.   They just kept making up new things and whatever and doing whatever. God only knows what he fucking plead to.  

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The war on Christmas.  

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That's Jim there with the Christmas tree just in case anybody doesn't recognize him so clean-cut. He was a a little younger in that photograph than we are today.   Yeah. Yeah. Wow. I'm pretty sure we're at the Walla Walla Home Depot, if I do recall.   I found an article here. It said they gave the property where the,   guidestones were back to the original owner.   Onlineathans.com   has kind of an interesting story where they're talking about whether or not they're gonna rebuild it, claiming that it was a bombing and that the bomber is still at large.   You know, they moved the granite off site to a third party location so people, you know, wouldn't hurt themselves or decide to be vandalizing or messing with it   and all that kind of stuff. So I thought that was interesting that they said they gave the  

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property back to the original owner. Yeah. He lived right right down the street. You could see his house from the place.  

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He was right there. We've tried to be   by not saying the names of   individuals directly involved   with this, story of the Georgia Guidestones. All their information is online, and there's maps and things, but we don't wanna put any sort of   special spotlight on any individual member of   that community to highlight them and give them sort of undue   attention.  

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I don't know. The original owner was a secret   that he was gonna take to his grave and would never tell anybody.   That's what the lawyer guy said, And lawyers are most life worthy of people.  

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I've had conversations with her   his daughter,   the   the guy the banker guy.   I've had conversations with his daughter. So   That's pretty far out. We all know his name. We all know who he is. We're just  

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it's   did you ask her any prying questions?  

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No. She came to me asking me questions.   No shit. Hell, yeah. Yeah. Interesting.  

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Yeah.  

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But we we all know who he is or was it we all and that certain group over there, we know who he is, but   just to even talk about the people, like, people were just like, I don't care.   But   some people do care, and then, like, it   seems it just seems crazy for a lack of a, you know, better word for it, but it's   it's crazy.  

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All the motivation behind it. Yeah. Yeah. We did it's a it's a thing. It's some kind of a long standing ritual. And so then Yeah. There becomes that   etiquette issue of   you know, it's not even that you have to be involved. You just don't say anything because you're just not supposed to. You get the vibe. You know? Oh, yeah.  

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Well, and I just got I I've I've suspected for a long time that a lot of these,   occulted groups,   their kids didn't give a fuck. You know, the whole nepotism   wiping things out. And at some point in time, you know, even though these kids were inheriting things and becoming the inheritors of it, if they didn't give a shit about it, it's, you know, especially in a   cult senses, all that hidden information is gonna be lost.   And   if you look at the hand me down   from company to company,   it doesn't take long before the kid doesn't know a damn thing about the company or how to run it, and he's just out partying and running the company into the ground.   Well, why wouldn't that have happened in the occult world?  

That seems weird to me that there we make some assumption that that   hand off of of wisdom and knowledge was somehow perfect even amongst them.  

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Yeah. I definitely agree with that. And that's   kinda lens what time capsules are for maybe.   There's something to preserve that,   that wisdom or whatever you wanna call it,   rituals, just preserve   those things. Sure.   I mean,   it's gonna get diluted, but there's ways to preserve it, I would think.  

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I mean, it's pretty regular speculation about Freemasonry that that's what happened.   You know, they were practicing a very specific type of ritual magic,   and then through dietitian,   it became something different. You know? Now people might even still practice the identical ritual in a reasonable   facsimile,   but they don't have the intention and the the key isn't there that allows it to be the thing it used to be. You know? This this is why,  

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the when,   the prophet of Dune,   when Paul   becomes the the emperor of Dune   and,   he ends up leaving his own empire attorney against it   because he sees that the message in just 1 fucking generation,   1 generation. He's still standing there alive, and they've already turned his message   and everything he's tried to do into something hollow, and he's surrounded by sycophants.   And everybody's just having meaningless ritual instead of heartfelt ritual that was what it was originated off of. In 1 lifetime, they had lost all the meaning, and he said, fuck you guys. I'm out.  

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Right.  

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The meaning. Yeah. And I I've been meaning to ask Will a question.   I I don't did I ever ask Will the the question?   And I've kind of rephrased it now. So I would say, you know, Will, what is your favorite   song   by a Christian band?  

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Making it tougher. Making it tougher.   What  

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what it could be like, what is your most tolerated   song by a Christian band while while we gaze upon the visage of,   America's   pope here, Billy Graham.  

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By a Christian band?   Yes.   I mean, I can think of 1.  

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Alright. We're here, and we're listening.  

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I mean, there's a lot of bands that consider consider themselves Christian. Sure. Sure. Yeah.   I mean,   the the latest tool album is fucking wonderful.   Numa.   Mhmm. Numa off of the night the latest tool album is great.  

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There you go, Marcus.  

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Take that. Put it into your pipe. Now that's the most unique answer we've had for this question and,   to to say a tool a tool song.   Now there's a time when people would've scoffed and gawked, but people don't understand that Maynard's mother passing away really gave him some kind of a more soft hearted,  

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even Christian type experience. So Oh, he he definitely changes. There's 1 song that it's in it's in reverse. I think the song is called intention or no in   intention,   like, with no without a t.   It's I n t e s I o n. But   all the all the lyrics are in reverse, and it says   let me see if I can find the lyrics.   I wanna get them right.   He mentions Jesus.   So  

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but I that doesn't mean anything. That does qualify it as a, religious song, I guess.   Like, that was kind of the the tension that Krishna faces if they don't mention, you know, Jesus specifically.  

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So, like, shout at the devil, does does that count?  

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I mean, I would accept it. I'm I'm not going to be a a stickler for No. For, You can't you can't choose He didn't take shout mythical,  

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Sean. He said shout at him. It's obviously anti doubt.  

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You gotta do the same thing Will's doing and read the rest of the lyrics.   He's a wolf howling lonely in the night. He's a bloodstain on the stay, age.  

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Okay. I hold on. I think I found him. Mhmm.  

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Aren't all Christians supposed to be about the blood of Christ?  

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Okay. Here it is.   They're in reverse. So   it says work hard, stay in school, listen to your mother.   Your father is right.   Jesus loves you.   Work hard. Stay in school. Listen to your mother. Your father is right.   Jesus loves you.  

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Interesting. I think Billy Graham approves of that message. So   they're   they're now a a Christian band.  

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I think I like I wish I could get Joel's comment. You know? I think,   the drummer is gonna be pretty shocked to find out that he's a Christian.  

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I don't know what I mean.   Danny Carey since that was Crowley Crowley might consider himself Christian.  

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Bluebird.   That   one's wrong. So, I mean I also am not a devil worshipper  

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and I do agree that Satanism is inextricably   associated to Christianity   because it's the polar opposite. It's 2 wings of the same bird.   That's why I don't care about any of it.  

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Yeah. I was listening to, Kurt calling back, talking about that. You know, that most of the things that they have us thinking, talking, and dealing with in the world nowadays are all fools' choices where you've been given 2 choices   and 1 reflects the other, neither choice is necessarily good and it doesn't actually   it doesn't reflect reality. So it's just a fool's choice, you know. So if you choose Republican or Democrat, most people nowadays, a lot of people anyway are like, well, that's not you're stinky.   Yeah. And stinky?  



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No. I what? Lumpy Lumpkins and the soundbitches sprayed me twice in, like, the last 2 weeks. He he comes in the window and walks by me and sprays me on the way by like a sunbathing.  

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And the cat? Yeah.   Yeah. No. I'd be pissed, bro. I I'm I'm I'm not I'm not about that. I'm mad enough at my pug for marking in the house sometimes, but a cat spray is different than a dog pissing.  

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Yeah. That's an interesting way of governance.   Marking your territories, boundaries, and borders that way.  

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Yeah. So how much have the bid? Myself.  

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Yeah. That goes for him. So, yeah, Will, that's a traditional question on this broadcast, the Weaving Spreaders webs broadcast, especially for Marcus Allen.   What's your favorite Christian band is the normal more,   blase   question. But, I'm glad he asked it the way he did because we got a tool song as the answer, and I find that fascinating.  

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We're all touched by   the  

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traditions and especially with Oh, you missed it, Juan. I was talking about that we're like, I my homunculus,   feared my wild homunculus theory earlier. How how you guys are all gonna show up? You and Cozy showed up right after my fucking Chiefs rant, and you show up after my we're all we're all homunculus from different areas of God making. That's why I can smell ants.  

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In a poker game, we call that flop lag. You know, you see the results that you want 1 hand after the hand that you got. Like, you got pocket aces Yeah. And the the 3rd ace comes the next hand, not the hand that you're on. The vertex equilibrium.  

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I am I I'm an old   I am a homunculus from Odin. Odin made us. I admit this. I'm part 3, and I got some ant in me.  

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It's the vector equilibrium we're working on this timeline   and both, forwards and reverse at the same time to try to converge   to this now moment   to figure out, you know, what is   what is the Christian song we all wanna listen to. Most people are trying to adjust their electromagnetic  

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donut,   but everything else is adjusting at the same time. So it's just like when you're lost. Like, don't adjust. Just sit there, be okay with where your donut's at, and everything will move to where it's at. You know? But if you keep adjusting your donut and the world keeps moving, you may never get aligned with that that,   homunculus   opportunity that you were looking for.  

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So I'm saying California can you can smell the ants.  

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Yeah. I saw I saw there was a little back and forth in the in the chat when the ant subject came up. Now, Will, are you are you actively still pursuing Guidestone stuff, or you kinda got it on the minimized tip on the back burner or what?  

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No. I mean,   I don't really actively pursue it. No.  

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But, I mean, it's always there. Sure. Right. I mean, you can't really get out of the how how I assume that you considered a pretty significant part of your life that all this stuff happened.   But that's a you know, I know how it is sometimes.   Wow.   That's good audio.  

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The influence of the stars need to be remembered at all times. Sometimes they just hit you,  

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and you feel they're And when they stuck that gold rod in there and made the cup overflow, this is what they were tapping into.  

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That's it.  

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That's beautiful.  

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The motions of the celestial bodies and   planetary   luminaries.  

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It's also the reason you might keep it on the back burner if you understand that that's right there above us. You go, I don't know if I wanna touch that.  

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I mean, I do know there's still people alive that know a lot of or probably know   definitely know more than I do. So there there's stories out there that,   you know, I'd like to talk to some people, but maybe go   speak up about what they know. Or   it would be helpful, but  

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I don't see it happening. Saying that you're gonna be 0 involvement, but maybe something else would have to happen where you take action.   And decide to to do something.   I've always thought about writing stuff or writing a book, but, yeah. I would, man. Your story is very unique, Will. It's just something different than I've ever heard.  

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Dude,   like I said, at the very least, this is a fucking Hollywood script.   At the very least, your story is a Hollywood script. And and like I said, the fact that you actually   took the stone, have the arrest report to prove that you've figured out and decoded   the whole thing   and   have physical proof, that's just the icing on the cake. And and the fact that,   and I understand that trying to   describe a mental process   is extraordinarily   hard.   Most of the spiders here were there when they finally understood what I was saying after 2 years of saying it. Like, yeah. Right. Like, you know, trying to describe,   going through something like that. It you know, it's like it's basically like taking,   LSD or   DMT or something like that and trying to describe your trip to somebody that's never tripped,   you know, to that kind of thought process.  

And so it makes you sound a little crazy,   and that just adds to it. It makes it great. And then that you actually   it's at 1 at the end. It's almost like a conspiracy theory movie, you know, where the guy actually is right, you know, that looked crazy through the whole thing. Totally waiting for Hollywood.  

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And I'm actually fortunate enough to have some witnesses that were there that saw some of the crazy shit.   Like  

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I mean, that to me, that really helps that you have people that were eyewitnesses  

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and could testify and say, hey. He's not lying, man. We were there. Oh, the the day I moved the stone, I was on top of it. I'd already moved the stone, put it in my backpack, and I was looking at the holes that were drilled in. Just looking at what's going on, and the cops pulled up.   It's like 10 minutes later, and   he walked out. He's like, hey, man. He knows it's illegal to be up there. I told him who I was working with, and he's like, alright. We'll see you later.   He turned around and walked back,   and my wife was my wife was there. She was on standing on the ground.  

And so he walked kinda close to her back to his car, and she said it's illegal to be up there. And he's like, well,   he's working for so and so. So,   no, we're good.   I mean Jedi mind track. He had the right word to say. He got in his car, left. I was like, alright. Cool. Let's   put my ladder down and just go. And the stone was at no. No. No. Actually, the stone was still sitting on the ground.   He was he walked right up to it. The 1 I moved, he said, hey. What are you doing up there? And I was like,   yeah. Told him who I was working with, what we're doing. He's like, alright. He runs the show. We'll see you later.   So they'd let me do   it, obviously.  



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Yeah. And encouraged you.  

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Sounds a bit like January 6th.  

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Well, it was July 6th that it happened, so that's just another coincidence to put down on your list. But they didn't realize what they had. They had they had the whole fucking building, and they were dumbfounded to  

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to be in there. They didn't realize what they had.   They they That's why they do it that way. Yeah. Because then when you when you get it, you're like, woah.   Okay.   But there the whole ADD of the whole situation, everybody just went back home.   Yep. Why why don't leave? Y'all should still be in there.  

[02:42:52] Unknown:

No. I know. It's fascinating how they perform these  

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Just gave it the tools. Yeah. Exactly.  

[02:42:59] Unknown:

Because then you had it, and now I was so technically, everything they claim in their little media stunts is true Yep. But it's actually not true.  

[02:43:08] Unknown:

Yep.   I mean, they gave him the choice to take back their country or take over the country pretty much.   Yeah. And they said they they grabbed some souvenirs and got some lawsuits and went home. And went home. Yeah. I mean, just by sheer numbers, they could have controlled that that capital building for months.   Nobody could have come back to work there.  

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Yeah. Well, they're not gonna they're not gonna, go up in there and have a tear gas, fighting room to room situation. They'd have to wait it out. It wouldn't be a standoff.  

[02:43:37] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, what what a lot of people don't realize is they had the funding   to remodel that area,   like, 6 months before the event. They had passed a bill to remodel that entire area.  

[02:43:51] Unknown:

Oh, wow. Right. It reminds me of the Pentagon. There was some remodeling going on, right, where the alleged airplane hit. That's kinda strange.  

[02:43:59] Unknown:

Oh, yeah.  

[02:44:02] Unknown:

At the same time, some, my my old homeboy Rumsfeld,   may he rest in peace, was bragging, that he lost some trillions. Oops. I I don't remember where I put him down, man. I set him down somewhere right around here. So many people lose that.  

[02:44:16] Unknown:

And, Colin Powell died died of colon cancer for his involvement in all of this too. Never never forget that fact.  

[02:44:25] Unknown:

Strange.   So strange.  

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What else have you been looking into,   Will, whatever sort of strange currents have   carried you along?  

[02:44:39] Unknown:

My garden.   Looking at my plants. So  

[02:44:42] Unknown:

Here. Here. Hallelujah. Me too. Mine's getting nice.  

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Yeah. I spend 3 hours out there every day.  

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So I will grow some wicked good peppers.   I still got about 4 jars of them. I got them fermented, so they last. Oh, nice.   K. Yeah. I fermented some in maple syrup, raw maple syrup, and some in honey.  

[02:45:04] Unknown:

Yeah. I knew you're man. Yeah. I knew you're looking for kinda syrup that you couldn't find at first.  

[02:45:10] Unknown:

Yeah. Are we talking pickled peppers?  

[02:45:14] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. No. Not pickled. Pick pickled is in a vinegar   instead of in a   a sweet,   that you're trying to invite bacteria to ferment it. It's a different process.   When you pickle it, you're, putting it in vinegar.  

[02:45:34] Unknown:

Yeah. I use I use vinegar to make my sauces. So and they last about 6 months or   for me, 6 months to a year.   Nice. But I'm not going that's the  

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the pepper.   The   vinegar. That's the pepper.  

[02:45:52] Unknown:

Gotcha.   I'm not growing too many peppers this year, though.   I kinda took a break from that.   Give me more room for,   peas and beans.   More room for okra.  

[02:46:07] Unknown:

Okra. I see. That's 1 of the few foods I really don't like very much. Too slippery for me. Yeah.  

[02:46:12] Unknown:

I don't eat okra,   but I'll grow it for everybody, though.  

[02:46:17] Unknown:

That's cool. So, no, to me, that's very kind if you're willing to grow it, but you don't eat it.  

[02:46:22] Unknown:

Yeah. There's about 10 of us that feed off of this garden.   So   I grow a bunch of stuff that I don't eat, but I know people do.  

[02:46:29] Unknown:

Give it away. Yeah. I'd like to see it if it's that big. That's cool, man. You got any, video of it up anywhere?  

[02:46:36] Unknown:

I can get some. Go on on my salad page.   Yeah. I'll get some video tomorrow. Come. When you said we could do a salad video. Oh, he's all on the on the YouTube. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We have a a video from that very,   the salad. Yeah. Ranch. Where's salad?  

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The yeah. The word salad page. Yeah. Wrench video. Is now a good time to look at a wrench video?  

[02:47:00] Unknown:

Yeah. We were doing something. There was   there was some other channel that were giving out wrenches, and   somebody   you had to make a video to get a wrench. So that was my that was my   my proposition for getting a wrench in the channel. I'm checking.  

[02:47:18] Unknown:

Look at that video. Do you want the sound on for this, sir?   Would you like to create it?  

[02:47:24] Unknown:

This is my this is my Halloween costume. It was right around Halloween.   And,   I was the 1 on the left when you go in. Is the sound design important to the film? No. Okay.  

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So we're looking at some sticks burning and,  

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yeah,   that's our family property.   It's it's been in our family for about 200 years.  

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Beautiful. That's beautiful.  

[02:47:54] Unknown:

See some bricks.  

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Yeah. Well done.  

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Face of a baby doll?  

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Yeah. We've we've redone that patio. Had to re rebrick it.  

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There is some flashing lights here if you're watching this video.  

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You see, it all makes more sense now that you needed the wrench. Yeah. Yeah.  

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But that was my Halloween costume. Yeah. The sound right there. Sound of the gong. Yeah. You can go back to hear that. It's important part of that. The only thing.  

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That's our drummer over there. He's called Loco Max.  

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So are you playing guitar or bass or what? I play bass. Nice.   Some guitar, but, nah. I've been playing the bass myself some too. I got 1 of these little rubber string basses right here. Oh, cool.  

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But, Rach.  

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Hey, shit. No. That was a nice treat. You know? Like, we saw the comment come in. Like, oh, hey. Sorry. I didn't make it. And then you click on the channel and you're like, hey.  

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Yeah.  

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This is fascinating.  

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Hey,   Tina.   Tell your wife we apologize.  

[02:49:28] Unknown:

Or is she in the chat room?  

[02:49:32] Unknown:

Well, once the stream starts, people are kinda glued to their screen, and they might neglect other   things going on in their life. So we do record this, and we do   keep the stuff archived,   which reminds me that   I did say that this is your 3rd appearance.   Your first 2 appearances will need to be,   formally archived and and made more easily available for people to find if they want to   go back and see   other pieces of this puzzle, this story that's  

[02:50:05] Unknown:

I can make a playlist on my channel so that  

[02:50:09] Unknown:

so it's all in 1 place.   Cool.  

[02:50:13] Unknown:

So, you know, if we got all 3 episodes. Because, yeah, we really appreciate it, man.   And, of course, you know, if something happens, we we would love to hear more. You know, if anything happens at all, even if it's it seems like a small insignificant thing and you wanna talk about it, we'd love to hear it because this is to me, this is a infinite number of rabbit holes   that you you're just right in the middle of it permanently.  

[02:50:35] Unknown:

As long as you're still alive, it just goes in every direction. Rabbit holes.  

[02:50:40] Unknown:

There's no telling what's coming next. So There's not. There's not. It's gonna get interesting. Alright.  

[02:50:46] Unknown:

Metaphysical   mysteries,   certainly.   And living through them as we're all kind of intertwined in   these, timelines now.  

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Yep.  

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And, of course, we'd love to see some garbage footage. If you put some up, I'll put some up too.  

[02:51:09] Unknown:

Yeah. I'll get some video tomorrow. I gotta go pick a bunch of stuff.   We're growing too much, actually.   Nah.  

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And that's a good thing, though. That's a good thing.   You have a lot of food away or whatever. Yep.  

[02:51:24] Unknown:

It's a lot of food for Saat.   We're just kinda slowly digesting it,   And it's taken us, you know, this amount of time to   ask you back and   consider   what other questions have been we asked that we kinda had thought about.   We kinda gone through our notes.  

[02:51:44] Unknown:

I appreciate it.   I'll come back anytime.   Awesome.  

[02:51:48] Unknown:

Great.  

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Tim, did you get all your questions?   Oh, that you had?  

[02:51:55] Unknown:

I think so.   Well, there's so much to think about. I   think we covered quite a bit of it. I probably will think of some the minute that I get off the   we get off the show. I'll   have something, but,   yeah, I love the mystery.  

[02:52:19] Unknown:

Sweet. That's my favorite part about the way Will presents it is that you ask a question,   and he gives   a subtle but specific answer, but leaves details out in a polite, what I would call a southern way.   It allows you to to have more thoughts than you had before you asked the question in a but in a good way. Exactly.  

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Yeah. I'm sure I can't help it.   Yeah.  

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It's a southern thing, maybe. Oh, it is. It is. It's that accent.  

[02:52:52] Unknown:

Yeah.  

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Have you read all of Stephen King's works? Do you have a favorite amongst them? Not all of them. I've read a good bit.  

[02:53:03] Unknown:

Dark Tower stuff is the best, though. Oh, yeah. I agree.  

[02:53:06] Unknown:

That was good.  

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I've read those over and over and over.   Actually, I haven't really read much Stephen King since he finished The Dark Tower. So   1 of more of his early work   and   up until we finished the tower.   Yeah. Same here.  

[02:53:28] Unknown:

K. Dark Tower is great. I think he went back and rewrote some stuff. We rewrote the first books, and they were Yeah. Quite as revised version. I think the revised version was actually a story plot.  

[02:53:41] Unknown:

Like, it was part of the story,   the revision. Because you know how he put he put him you know, he put himself as a character in the book. Right?   Yeah. So he was part he was part of the book in book 6. So   I think the revision of the first book was   somebody or something in his ear   telling him to do that because he didn't revise any other ones.   Yeah. He just revised. And and the   the most stuff he changed in that first 1 was at the end when   when he was talking to the man in black. That whole conversation with the man in black changed.   So I think   the wizard or maybe even   the highest up I don't wanna spoil some shit, but   I think somebody or something was in his ear   telling him to write that book or revise it because   just the way Stephen King says he writes books, he's like, I don't write the books. I just   I just sit down, and whatever comes to me comes through me. Like, I'm not writing that   shit. It's like, I'm writing it's writing itself. So   I think there was a, like,   a changing of the book somehow changed.  

Maybe timeline or I don't know.   I think that was part of it.  

[02:55:01] Unknown:

Yeah. It was definitely weird. I had a I had this beautiful copy with,   it was like a big   graphic copy, and it had some paintings in it. Yeah. I have that copy. Yeah. So The original? Yeah. Yeah. The original. And then I found,   like, I lost it and I bought a new copy, and it was revised. And I was like, this something's wrong.   What happened? It's different. Yeah. Different?  

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I think it's part of the story. I think it's, like, a   it's it's a device part of the story or it's like yeah. Because he didn't revise any of the other ones. Just that first 1.  

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It's a clue to something to look into. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

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Yeah. Because actually, they told him to go over to the Georgia Guidestones and notice that there's a little piece that you could take out of there if you want.  

[02:55:55] Unknown:

Have there been cicadas in your area?  

[02:55:58] Unknown:

Yeah. A little south of us, though.   Not in not in my local area, but if I go   about 30 miles south, I hear them.   So   kinda.  

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We were wondering kind of how the   the 2 groups were supposed to emerge and were like, well, where? Where? It's like, not in not in my backyard, but somewhere,   there are saccadas.   And the predictions of where they would be versus where they showed up would be an interesting,   examination   at the end of  

[02:56:40] Unknown:

the season here in the sea. Yeah. I haven't seen any maps of where they showed up, but I know   Central Alabama's   I mean, I was driving, and   I got   my windshield got hit by at least 10 of them on an hour hour trip.   I had to roll my windows up actually because they might fly  

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on. Does it feel like a plague in some way? Oh, yeah.  

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Not a plague, but, like, you know, you think of it in your head, like, shit flying around everywhere. Mhmm. Yeah.   Yeah. If they if they hit my car that many times, I'm sure they hit everybody's car that many times or   whatever highway that was, it was just a   fucking   just a trail of dead ones. Might have to talk to  

[02:57:33] Unknown:

some over the road drivers to see if they're traveling through heavy cicada areas   and how they're dealing with having to pull over and clean their windshields.  

[02:57:41] Unknown:

Mhmm.   Is it is it a cicada season already?   Seems like they were advertising a lot more.  

[02:57:51] Unknown:

I have to be. A biblical plague. Yeah. They come in 13 year peaks, I think. So next 13, 17 year cycle, I think. Yeah.  

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But, again, until it's   experienced, it's just a a new story or something that we read about on the Internet.   So having boots on the ground investigation   as well as done with the Georgia Guidestones. I mean,   all of these people   who are putting out, you know, quote, unquote, content and producing documentaries, talking about Georgia Guidestones,   I have not seen a 100% of them   showing a video of themselves touching the guides. I was walking on and proving that they were   there   in any way.   So all the talk about what they've read about it only goes so far.  

[02:58:39] Unknown:

Yep.   Yep.   I've actually my son actually got video of the whole thing when I was there.   So that's on a disc around here somewhere.  

[02:58:56] Unknown:

Yeah. I mean, when you find that and you upload that, that'll be part of the   the documentary footage.  

[02:59:03] Unknown:

Yeah.   I've never uploaded it. So maybe 1 day. We'll see.  

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Yeah. I definitely would watch that. That is something I would watch   for sure because that's fascinating.   But back to the same thing, like, whether or not to upload it, there's a little feeling   that you have whether or not it's okay, and everyone should mind that feeling when they have it. Maybe maybe maybe the time isn't right for another few years or something. Who knows? Right?  

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Yep.  

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So, having a conversation with us tonight,   and we've kind of poked at you and pushed you along certain paths.   What other sort of ideas have   kind of come to light in your mind that   you maybe wanna get out while you have an opportunity?  

[03:00:01] Unknown:

Nothing really. Just kinda,   building some structures to time travel. Sure. That'd be pretty cool. Just trying to ring out your mind sponge and   get every little drip. If I could build a time traveling device, we could   do kinda  

[03:00:17] Unknown:

understand. No. That'd be great. We'll talk about that some other day. Right. Right. Yeah. I agree. I agree. That's a great idea to come back and talk about time travel.   There you go. So everybody go read the time machine to get ready.  

[03:00:31] Unknown:

I have a few designs. I know there's a new show out. I'm gonna watch it, but dark matter,   I think.   Emily Moyer talks about it. I I'm gonna watch it, but it's I just laugh at it. It's a cube, right? Oh. Yeah.   Yeah.   It's it's always a cube. Yeah.  

[03:00:50] Unknown:

Makes me think of the 2nd season of Twin Peaks, the way they're up in that skyscraper with the brick. Yeah.   And and they're just waiting,   looking inside that containment unit they got.  

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Or was that movie,   god.   It's about a stuffed animal  

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that 2 kids find on a beach? Or Oh, yeah. The Last Mimsy. Yeah. I haven't thought about that for a long time. That's a good movie, The Last Mimsy. That's about a cube too, I think.  

[03:01:17] Unknown:

Some yeah.   There's another 1, but they found a cube on a beach. Wanna   I think that's the last Mimsy. I made the same movie. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.   It's all about the cube. I wanna build a Tesseract   drum set.  

[03:01:39] Unknown:

Maybe and put Now now we're talking.   And, yes. Yes.  

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I put mirrors on the inside.   Right? So   so if you're inside the tesseract drumming, all you see is just the the ins the mirrors everywhere.  

[03:01:55] Unknown:

Yeah. You drum too? The intent reflections.  

[03:01:58] Unknown:

I mean, I I mess around with it. Right. We have a we have a better drummer than me.  

[03:02:03] Unknown:

So no. I'm good. So what do you think of those,  

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shiny monoliths that have been showing up in odd places?   The other 1. Showed up in Colorado.   Right. A few months ago, it was in Nevada, I think, in Utah.   Yep. The 1 in Nevada got taken down by the police.   Here. Recently?  

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Yeah. Just recently. Oh, the original 1. Okay. No.  

[03:02:27] Unknown:

Yeah. No. That that there's there's been a number of them over the years, and now just recently, there's been, like, 3 of them have popped up. 3 or 4. Yeah.  

[03:02:36] Unknown:

Well, I mean,   who knows who who's putting them out there? I mean,   kind of odd.   It's like the, crop circle trend. I don't you know,   Not sure.  

[03:02:54] Unknown:

Yeah. We had a friend on talking about Sasquatch stuff.   Not too many, shows back, and she's also following the crop circle stuff. So I see more of that than usual because I'm friends with her on Facebook.   And it's a lot it's a lot more than I thought. And it's like it comes seasonally, I guess. Yep. You know, they stop and then they pop pop back up again.  

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Yep. Well, it's hard to do crop circles in the winter.   Crops have been harvested.  

[03:03:26] Unknown:

There's actually really only only been 1 so far this year.   1 big 1. There's usually more about now, but I don't know.   Kinda odd.  

[03:03:40] Unknown:

Let's think about that test rack drum set. You publish your music anywhere or you guys play out?  

[03:03:46] Unknown:

My son does. The the my son has a band. I don't really   publish much anything.   We record some.   Just   just mess around, but he has his band. He's he's a   he's a sound engineer. He went to college for it, so   he's doing that.  

[03:04:07] Unknown:

We're driving to Spartanburg, Nathan.   If Sue needs a left  

[03:04:16] Unknown:

Yeah. No no pressure on anyone who hears the the news of, event happening   end of September   by name of Flattoberfest.   So anyone who hears this message is invited.   Do we have more details about that?   I think tickets are on sale for that event.  

[03:04:37] Unknown:

Tickets are on sale for Flattoberfest.   It's gonna be   September 27th through 29th. That's spart in Spartanburg, South Carolina.   It's on a 55 acre property.   So group camping   is available   for a for a discount.   Marcus and I are gonna be there for sure with the possibility   of Jim and Sean and Rachel.   And at this 1 and Tony Coriolis is gonna be   there. At this 1,   we're gonna be doing live demonstrations.   So hands on. It's not just gonna be standing up there and talking and then kinda smiling and   running away. It's gonna be actual demonstrations   improving what gets talked   what gets talked about. Oh, fucking   retardation nation. I'm going to have to go with what Chaney says. She's usually got the pulse on this. It checks out. It checks out. It checks out. Yep. It checks out. Yep. It is  

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Yep.  

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It is a shiny reflective   thing on a hill, and it kinda reflects everything around it. It's an art object of intrigue, certainly.  

[03:05:56] Unknown:

Juan, who was in the chat, turned me on to this new sci fi, not new, this old sci fi series, but new to Juan? Yeah. Big time. Makes my nipples all hard.   It is called   Hyperion   by this weirdo name. I think his name is Dan Simmons, and, there's this horrible evil creature named the Shrike. He's like the embodiment of all murderous evil.   And I think the monolith could be the Shrike's dick, and he is very much a demon. So I'm I think Chaney once again is right.   Not 100%, but we're probably at least at, like, 88% correct on the possibility of the shiny model   just being strike dick.  



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Maybe. I'm definitely not down with you for the enema there,   Nathan, But if you need to put coffee in there, I'll get you some paraplegic. I'm bringing paraplegic coffee.   Poop that put that right in the poop shoot, and it's just like a fucking chocolate mudslide after that.   You all cleared out.  

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So what hell do you not even  

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put paraplegic   coffee and to never mind. Never mind.  

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Yeah. But then you can't walk for a month. So  

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That's I mean, you just you gotta think about what things mean. You know? So if you gonna do a coffee enema,   maybe go with   easy flow coffee, I guess. I don't know. Maybe not paraplegic.  

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He will be in a wheelchair for a month, but   it will come back.  

[03:07:28] Unknown:

He he he   says it's when you just can't stand for crappy cough.   Yeah. The mudblood started at Fartaria.   You  

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know? I find the video file, like, to open, and then I think it starts playing audio. Let's see. You you know, and given Let's see. From what I've understood, a lot of these mud flood guys  

[03:08:02] Unknown:

were also in the vein of   the,   Eeyore Bach vein.   So I I don't think that they were holding their mud very fucking well. I think that was a problem.  

[03:08:16] Unknown:

You know, if you stretch the o ring all out, you gotta replace it, and sometimes it's hard to get a replacement. You know? Yeah. I  

[03:08:26] Unknown:

do. Oh, man. That one's got legs on it. That's got legs. Yeah. This 1 is raised above the ground. Yeah. No.  

[03:08:37] Unknown:

This guy's canceled already. You're canceled.   I  

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think this is maybe a college news station   report on this thing out of Colorado.  

[03:08:47] Unknown:

Again, a highly elevated area. The 1 that just appeared, like, yesterday or the day before in Colorado. Right? It's pretty well polished. I don't know there's a lot of figure out stole some bathroom mirrors from the from the rest areas and welded them together with them, and they put legs on it. Like,  

[03:09:03] Unknown:

well, I got 3 bolts. Like the devil's dick to not be flat. I mean, no spit, and it's fucking got sharp edges. It's missing a bolt,  

[03:09:12] Unknown:

Bolted down. Yeah. It's messing with Yeah. 3 out of 4 ain't bad, Someone with a wrench, my stuff. You know, I need to around that. Last stud was on you know how hard it is to align all 4 of them? Yeah. Right. That's why they that's why they did that exactly.  

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You can tell by these expert witnesses and the smiles on their face that they're having fun with this thing.  

[03:09:35] Unknown:

Yeah.  

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But when it, reflects the sky,   it's kind of interesting.  

[03:09:43] Unknown:

Oh, it's just You can tell this lady's the reporter. Isn't that sad that you can tell which one's the actual reporter by looking?  

[03:09:49] Unknown:

Right. You saw more kit? Look. It's not small by any means. I'm about 53. A cement pad even brought in and the monolith bolted into it. Despite it being on a hill behind a gate, people are stopping by to take a look at the bizarre yet beautiful structure with unknown origins. We were not gonna miss this 1. We were afraid we'd miss it  

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because, they they do take them down.   So  

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so it's good to be able to see them. As for who put it here, that's the pillar of the debate. I don't think it's aliens.  

[03:10:19] Unknown:

I'm definitely a a skeptic.  

[03:10:22] Unknown:

And for Linda, she's  

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For those who are not   seeing the image,   what is the length of that man's beard is is the question I'll leave you with.  

[03:10:32] Unknown:

Definitely a a skeptic. And for Linda, she's embracing all of the weird, spooky, and otherworldly theories and possibilities.   I don't plan to do anything to make it go away. I don't wanna make an alien mad.   In Bellevue. You know why they take them down? Because people are gonna start shooting at them. You're damn straight. I would have been out there with a DEWALT hammer drill.   I I would not even fuck around.  

[03:10:55] Unknown:

Oh, people are gonna start shooting at it, and then they're not thinking about the fact that the bullet goes through it and flies over there towards that swimming pool you can see in the background, and, you know, then you got bad news. So  

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looks like an industrial   refrigerator   out in the middle of nowhere.  

[03:11:11] Unknown:

Mhmm. And that's what all of them are in the the if you look up the Nevada 1, Marcus, that 1, the cops took it apart and they're like, you know, it's just   stainless steel, basically, sheet metal and  

[03:11:23] Unknown:

nothing to it. Well, when it turns up on the moon, I'll worry. Okay?  

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The concern with this being on a hill,   being shiny and reflective,   and all the sort of dry grass around it was, concerns of starting wildfires.   100%. So the conspiracy then reads something like people are putting out monoliths. The monoliths are starting wildfires. Therefore,   people are indirectly responsible, but it's the monolith and the reflection that started the wildfire.  

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So ban monolith?  

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Well, it's the reflection of the monolith. Yeah. Yeah. I got it. The mere reflection.   So it's   like, are we consenting to having shiny monoliths on our hills where we   have the risk of   lightning striking and starting fires, that sort of thing. Watch. It's gonna be a Elon Musk fucking,  

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cult, you know, where they're all just fascinated with stand stainless steel now because of the dumbass,  

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Oh, like a tiger glove. Well, we're gonna have to make ours levitate with magnetism   so that when they go out there, it's just staying in there and you could push on it, but it doesn't go away. And there's, like, at least as much space underneath it since they've made 1 with legs. We're gonna have to up our game.   Oh, shit. We're still streaming? Damn it. I meant to say that after the stream.  

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We are still streaming if that's okay with you.  

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Well, I gotta head out though. I gotta  

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do some things for me right now. I appreciate it. Nice talking to you, man. Story, brother. Thanks, man.   See you all, buddy. Thank you. Yep. You're welcome. Bro. Thanks so much.  

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A Jew would go unprepared, but then would tell everybody it was somebody else's fault.  

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We're being anti semitic on this channel now. That's what the The wandering aspect of this. I know. We usually say the race is a No. I was a Jew. See, look.  

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Let me curl them up a little bit here. Get these curlier.  

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There. Yeah. How's that?   Beautiful.   You're trying to go acidic?   Yeah. Totally. Yeah. Absolutely.   Except for I'm so fond of boiling   a a baby calf in its own, milk, but that's gonna be hard to beat. You know? I have to quit doing that, I guess, so I can be kosher.   Isn't that weird? You know what I mean? You know, if you compare the Bible to the Quran, the Quran definitely has weirder stuff. I'm really glad,   that the Bible doesn't have specific instructions on how you're supposed to act in the bathroom,   whereas the Muslims are stuck with some very specific details. But, you know, it says right in there like, hey,   don't boil a baby cow in his mother's milk. And it's just like, now why, just like any dumb warning on a piece of electronics or like a dryer or anything,   you know, it says don't use your hairdryer in the shower because somebody did,   you know? And so I would say that's an ancient example of the same thing. Like,   like you catch somebody like, what are you doing   to the calf? And what you got all this milk for?  

Like, what was that was not a minute. Gotta be How it tastes how it tastes best this way, you know, like The land of milk and honeymoon. Wait until I'm done and get a bite of this before you criticize it. Hold on. You know, from a scholarly point of view,  

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the reason that Christianity wouldn't have near the laws that,   Jews do in   the Arabs do because   the Christianity is the most removed from that religion, and they had to kind of morph it into a white people thing in order to get,   Northern Europeans to accept it.   So you couldn't put in that many fucking rules. We won't take it. Like,   no. I quit listening after the 3rd fucking rule. I don't even know what you're saying now.  

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Connects us back to ideas of governance   and religion. And from the Blue Earth County Historical Society, here is a   photo of the Rapid Dan   Dam from about a 100 years ago.   Wow. Was still dead.   Yes.  

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So The land around it now. Oceans,  

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floods,   these sort of apocalyptic   end time scenarios of things just crumbling.   This dam withstood   withstood everything that was thrown at it. It's it's still standing,   but what's not standing are these wooden structures   that are above that water   table.   But due to   all of this rain that we've had in the, middle of the USA   and all the saturation in the ground   and   the stuff that was swept into the river   dammed up the damn dam,   and the water had to find a way to flow,   and it carved a a new path   through taking out some of these   wooden  

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structures.  

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And in Blue Earth County,   Mankato,   the history of different   people groups and tribes   and governances  

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have And Laura was wilder.  

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There are She lived there. There are little houses on this prairie.   Yes. And they're no longer there.  

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She was the most important person.   I'm from the Midwest. I've seen the signage.   Every town she peed in has a sign about it.  

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They they have that over there in London too. You know? Like, you walk by a bar, and it's got a big round plaque, and it says, you know, CS Lewis had drinks right here with some other writer that you never heard of. And it's like, well, I'm glad to know   that's, you know. Right. I'm more fascinated by the fact that the glass has been installed in the building for so long that it's visibly   dripped. There's like a run-in it like paint because the glass has been hanging there for, 250   years.   And, you know so then you see that evidence that, oh, the glass is actually still a liquid.   It appears solid, but it's actually a liquid. It's a liquid over a long time period.  

Liquidic.  

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I'm   surprised. Old windows that  

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Yeah. That's exactly what I'm talking about. Those you know, you go into those really old taverns and you go upstairs, and it's like, woah. This is weird.   The windows are all thin at the top, and and they they got they're all wavy, and then they're, like, there's a fat spot.  

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Yeah. Old farmhouses are like that where I'm from too, especially if it's cheap glass.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Waring goes wilder, Joan of Arc, Anne Frank. Yep. Yep. That's And let's see. There's experiments similar to that, you guys, where they did it with   with black tar. It's not called tar. It's something else. But the guy did the same thing. Like, he he set up an experiment   where there's a big old thing   of the black liquid that's really, really slow moving,   and it's hanging there, like, the drip is hanging there for years.   And then the day it finally finally falls,   and then the next 1 starts to develop. But, I mean, it takes I I can't remember. Pitch, a tar or pitch experiment?   I'll find it for you guys. It's really cool. It's a trick.  

It always makes me think of hummingbirds because I saw this super slow motion footage of a guy,   and you could tell that the hummingbird, when it slowed down,   you can see that it's perceiving the world similar to how we are.   And and so he's looking at the guy like, man, you go really slow.   You know?   Because he's got all these gestures and motions that he's like, the guy has something that the hummingbird wants really close to his face. And so the bird comes in to get it, but then the man reacts. And the bird's like, hey, man. You're alright. I'm just gonna get the thing.   But, you know, it's a hummingbird. So it's coming at it really fast, you know. And so the bird goes back and, like, stay it gets close to him and it waits. It's like, alright. I'm gonna try again, and the guy holds really still.  

And, you know, I thought I had that footage saved somewhere, but let me see.   Pitch drip experiment.  

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That sounds cool. I love humming bird birds, but they're so fucking aggressive. Yeah. Picture drop it to the river. Bastards.  

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Yeah. Well, you're living you're living in the middle of a war zone. It's not like a friendly neighborhood where they're like, well, which feeder should we go to? We're like, let's go out on the mountain,   and we'll kill for the sugar water.  

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Yeah. There's there's 3 different fit, 3 different groups of them that come in and have little fucking wars.  

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I wish we had enough money to buy about $10, 000 with the camera equipment that was all super slow mo and we could set it all up so that we could get to know the names and the colors and the markings. You know, we could we could set it all up, document the war. Yeah. The pinkies and the Rufus don't like each other at all.  

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So that's a Because 1 of the groups is pinkies,   and then there's 2 right. There's 2 groups of pinkies and 1 group of Rufus's.   And they come from different areas, and we can see it when they're coming.   Mhmm. And then they'll they'll come into, and they'll fight over the because we've even got a couple feeders, and they don't fucking care. They still fight over them. And it's crazy because they'll do these, like, swirling battles that'll go way up in the air.  

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We could talk to the group responsible for installing the infrastructure for the facial recognition cameras installed now at the Mall of America. Maybe we could develop the technology further to identify the facial structures of birds. Maybe we can do do an iris scan   on these birds to see if there's different birds  

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stopping. There's gotta be.  

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Birds of bird?  

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And I've got 4 crows   or 4 ravens.   Cool.  

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So, yeah, I dropped the link if people are interested about the pitch drop experiment. It's over in the, weaving spiders webs Telegram. Cool 1.   And, so   real short description says pitch drop experiment is a long term experiment which measures the flow on piece of pitch over many years. Pitch is the name for any of a number of highly viscous liquids which appear solid, most commonly.   Bitumen, also known as asphalt. At room temperature, tar pitch flows at a very low rate taking several years to form a single drop, and then it's got the guy in Queensland,   Australia. Says, University of Queensland pitch drop experiment featuring its stodian professor John Mainstone   taken in 1990, 2 years after the 7th drop, and 10 years before the 8th drop fell.  

So   that's a trip.  

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We do have a Dropbox IRL   for people to pitch. For people to send, mysterious art objects. Postcards   are great  

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too. Cash also. You can send Jim cash. Stuff an envelope with as much cash as you have on your person and mail it to Jim at suite   279307   South 9th Avenue, Walla Walla, Washington   99362.   Oh, by the way, foreign currency is accepted.   It doesn't have to be American Cash. Thank you for all the,  

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donations we've received.   Keep them   keep them sending, those recall as through the mail, and we we will redistribute the recall as  

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as necessary.   Marcus's mouth.   It's okay. Yeah. He's ready to all of you. I will,  

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and you wanna pop your cherry Ricola.  

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That's a good I think that's a good hook for a song you get right there. Tastes like coca cola. Cherry Ricola.   It tastes like Coca Cola.   Rose is a famous singer whose, vagina tastes like Coca Cola according to the lyrics of her own song. She also is singing about Harvey Weinstein in the song, which makes it even grosser.  

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God, if I was going down on a chicken, it tasted like Coca Cola. I'm out. I'm just up to the nail. Yeah. Time out, coach. Take me out of the game.  

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See,  

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I'm injured.   I'm currently injured.  

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Bail Bonds guy. That's who we needed to talk to. Right?   The guy to get us out of a sticky situation.  

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Gosh.   Situation.  

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Let's see. If if we were gonna choose the bail bonds then to have on, which city   should we should we bring him from? Now that's a good question. I think Oakland would be pretty good.   Downtown Oakland.  

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Oh, Oakland Oakland's gotten lame.   Oak Oakland got lame. All the all the all the interesting characters moved to,   Vegas.   That's why Vegas was so fucking exciting.  

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Yeah.  

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Because remember the, locals were saying that after the Oakland   Raiders moved to,   Vegas, that's when the cry when the 19 eighties style crime started happening in Vegas. Yep.  

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Well, I mean, they're the the Raiders.  

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And then the A's were going to Vegas too. I don't know if that happened or not.  

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We we did find a vegan,   taco stand called Vegano's.   Yep. Highly recommended. If you're in Vegas, hit up. If you don't like eating meats,   then just go over to Vegano's. But, do bring your pistol or at least a sharp pocket knife just in case, especially if you're going at night. During the day, it wasn't too bad, but,   you know, me and Ben look rough and tumble enough that probably people aren't thinking about robbing us in broad daylight or pickpocketing us. So No.  

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Although I went over to the cigarette store next door, and there was, like, 3 packs of cigarettes in the whole store, but some real meth out lady look came out of it right before me. So I'm fairly sure that I was just calling meth  

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in that cigarette store. Yeah. I wasn't really tempted to wash my clothes at the laundromat there next to Vegano's.   I looked in there. I saw people were doing some laundry,   but I didn't have any feeling of   I should do some laundry. Maybe we should get the laundry and come here. I didn't that was not the vibe I got.  

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It's   the worst that every laundromat, everybody that you see in the laundromat, you would never wanna wash clothes in the in the washer that that person had used, but you're still gonna use 1 and and and just try and forget that definitely the person before you that used it would be was 1 of those people.   Like,  

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not right. I mean, to me, if if the appearance of their clean clothes is dirtier than my new clothes,   then  

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that's not good, man. Yeah. I saw people hacking loogies into the washing machine   and then washing their clothes in it when I went to the laundromat. I was like, I'm not coming back. Oh my god. That's terrifying. I never even heard of that. That's beyond the bill.  

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Like,   why?   It doesn't really wash out. It just dilutes.  

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Yeah.  

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Yeah. You could you could kinda spread it amongst the general   area now.   Emily Moyer.  

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I'm I'm sorry that you saw   that, Jim.  

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Me too. Said, Sean, Emily Moyer just showed up. What's that thing where after after the hand afterwards?   Were there cards you need show up the hand afterwards or whatever? Flop lag. It's called flop lag. Yeah. Yeah.  

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Emily Morgan. Yeah. That's it. That's that's 3 for 3 on on flop lag. Place your 3 tonight. Place your bets in reverse.  

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Find that vertex equilibrium.  

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People try you know what they do, Alan, is if you get flop lag, and it keeps coming I mean, like, you know, 1 time is like,   2 times, you're like, alright. God's kinda picking on me. I'll be patient. But the 3rd and the 4th time, you're like, I gotta do something. This isn't right. I'm in the wrong spot. So then what they do is they make a deal with the guy next to him or they wait. You know, somebody gets mad because they're losing over here. So then they move down to that seat, and they see if that fixed it.  

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Happy birthday, family.  

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Yeah. Happy birthday for sure.  

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Happy birthday.  

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Too many drinks to the wind. I've been there. It's been a while, but  

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good way to spend a birthday.  

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Yeah. It's been a few years for me.   I don't I don't in fact, I don't last time I got tipsy was the 75th Sturgis   at Lil Tipsy.  

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Zephyr says her fiance is a laundry attendant, and he's found 3 real diamonds in the lint traps. He's very thorough keeping the place clean. Wow.   I found I found a cube 2 cubic zirconiums   on the ground,   but never a real diamond. So but it's a good feeling when you're pumping gas and you look down and you see something really shinier than a piece of glass. And so you pick it up, and it's like a 3 carat c z. You're like, alright.   That's a bonus. That's a lucky day.   It's a little strange.   But, yeah, I've always been  

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go ahead, Jim. Oh, weird. She said she was hanging out with a friend from her twenties who's never listened to a podcast,   but somehow come up with all the same conspiracies. That's crazy.  

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Trippy.  

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It's just entered the general zeitgeist to the public at this point. It is.   And another thing I've enjoyed seeing recently, like earlier, I was looking at this post about,   hyphenia,   who was   a a scholar in Alexandria.   Female. And they tried making out this whole feminist story and completely rewriting it and making it out that the burning of Alexandria   was because   Christians were against women being free and all. And in Alexandria, it burned 100 of years before   her time,   Like, 300.   Fucking, you know, so it's it's it but,   what I enjoyed was is as I scroll down to look at the comments, you know, the first couple or what I expected to see was, you know, all these people, you know,   on the very anti Christian bent and on the very,   feminist bent.  

And then almost immediately, there was comments,   you know, well, hold on. This story doesn't make sense. Oh, I'm gonna go look this up. Oh, this is 100 of years apart. Like, you're putting the. And so people are actually starting to get to where, hey. I have this fucking thing in my hand that has all the information that's ever been known in the world.   Maybe I should access some of it.   Check some queries.   Yeah.   Not just see what kind of potato I am.  

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At least find 2 or 3 different ones that disagree with each other and try to find a correlation in the middle and follow that thread and see what happens. I mean, that's just your bare minimum responsibility   with this much information available.   Yep.  

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But it's super interesting that these kind of things are entering the public zeitgeist,   in general, and that even the people that aren't in the genre are   still   also   viewing these things and thinking of them and whatnot. That's fascinating.   Increased awareness.  

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That's what we do here. That we we always hoped for. We did.  

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Let's sit around, have a party,   increase our awareness together.  

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Hey, Jim. I think your awareness is showing.  

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You should see him in person.  

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It happens.  

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In broad daylight, the awareness just comes right out of his hair and his beard. It's like, is that Moses? Oh, it's Jim.  

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Relive in your mind.