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• The Nurturer Archetype: Beth Martens on Boundaries and Self-Care
• From Golf Courses to Self-Sufficiency: A Journey Through Modern Life
• Language, Tradition, and the Art of Living: A Deep Dive
• Pets, Philosophy, and Practical Skills: A Whimsical Exploration
• Surviving and Thriving: Insights into Self-Sufficiency and Personal Growth

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Streamed Live on Saturday June 22, 2023

#wsw 258 institutional coolness on a hot night

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Weaving Spiders Webs


#wsw 258 the great something or other
https://rokfin.com/stream/49873/wsw-258-the-great-something-or-other


Spiders start with  classic movies and the peculiarities of golf courses before moving into more serious territory. The Spiders explore the complexities of human behavior, societal norms, and the importance of self-sufficiency. Spiders also touch on the intricacies of language, the value of traditional skills, and the often-overlooked aspects of animal husbandry. Special guest Beth Martens joins us to discuss her upcoming course on the nurturer archetype offering insights into personal boundaries and the importance of caring for oneself and others. The episode wraps up with a humorous yet insightful look at the quirks of pets and the practicalities of living a self-sufficient lifestyle.

Audio recorded live Saturday nights and streamed to:

https://rokfin.com/OdinsAlchemy

(00:00:00) Introduction and Casual Banter

(00:14:09) Cosmic Comedy and Future Speculations

(00:45:04) Social Media and Communication Challenges

(01:20:01) Health Fads and Personal Experiences

(01:33:00) Septic ... !?

(02:00:00) Gardening and Self-Sufficiency

(03:00:00) Etymology and Language Discussions

(04:00:00) Animal Stories and Personal Anecdotes

- allen marcus

- JEM

https://serve.podhome.fm/weaving-spiders-webs

https://serve.podhome.fm/episodepage/weaving-spiders-welcome/weaving-spiders-258

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It's showtime.  

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It's showtime.   Are there tin roofs anymore?  

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Oh, yeah.  

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And are there cats that crawl on tin roofs? Only hot ones.   Elizabeth   Taylor movie?  

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Yeah. What's the the director or the writer of that? Cat on a hot tin roof.   Cat on a hot tin roof.  

[00:00:33] Unknown:

Kinda cold and audible. I was   thinking about Georgia. Georgia was on my mind this week for some reason.   Georgia.   There was a David Allen Coe song that I was tempted to play. It was like devil went down to Jamaica.  

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Oh my. He did have some stuff on the radio that I didn't really ever listen to that much, I guess.   Most of the co stuff I know. I'm a have to redo this, I think.   258.  

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Tennessee Williams, that's his name.   Love the stage play. Oh, yeah.  

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Is there any soggy Shakespeare in the park?   It's been so   wet outside.   So cloudy.  

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Is it moisture in the air?   Moist moisture.  

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Yeah. There's a lot of  

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frogs hanging out along the edges of sidewalks.   Waste?   Lots of flooding.  

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Moist.   I think we're live at Knoxville.   If somebody could go for   that out.   Tony Coriolis.   What's up, Beth?  

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We do wanna revisit the Georgia Guidestones at some point.   Oh, I can't wait to do that. Extensions out there.  

[00:02:09] Unknown:

We were gonna talk about it,   but Will decided to hang out with his family like a loser,   who hangs out with their family   in the summer   when it's nice out, goes out to the gulf and hangs out by water. Like a golf course?  

[00:02:28] Unknown:

Jeez.   Who does that? Do they close golf courses if they're flooded?  

[00:02:36] Unknown:

What's up, Billy?   You know Like, wet golf just turned into a bigger water hazard? I don't know. I'm not a big golf guy.   I heard they're making a happy   Gilmore. I mean, I did hear that. We're gonna need to find  

[00:02:50] Unknown:

a golf   expert   to explain to us. Look like a golf guy? Well, I'm not really interested in the   golfing   specifically.   I'm more interested in the landscaping   aspect and where does it get all that water to keep the grass so green.  

[00:03:08] Unknown:

Yeah. That was bullshit. Right?   Yeah.   Like, during a drought, why aren't the grit why aren't the,   golf courses cut off? Like, we give a shit Money.  

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Course.   It's all about money. The green stuff?   The green stuff.  

[00:03:34] Unknown:

Are you closest to the Emerald City?  

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And I can understand where it was at an Irish or a Scottish sport where that kind of,   landscape is kinda natural.   But we go through a lot of effort to make that, and that just makes no sense.  

[00:03:55] Unknown:

I really like the ones in deserts where it's like, the only thing green is the actual green.   Then the desert is the rest of the golf course. They're they're pretty beautiful.  

[00:04:08] Unknown:

What do scorpions think when they walk through a hot desert and they walk across a patch of green?  

[00:04:16] Unknown:

Oh, we've had a lot of scorpions. It's funny you mentioned them. I've seen, like in the last week, I've seen, like, 50 scorpions.  

[00:04:23] Unknown:

Oh, shit. You have scorpions down there. Yeah. Interesting. Well, because I'm because I'm pulling up logs and digging through stuff, I'm disturbing their  

[00:04:36] Unknown:

habitats, you know, and   so I'm running across just a ton of them.  

[00:04:50] Unknown:

It does get pretty damn cold   in the winter.  

[00:04:54] Unknown:

Yeah. Like, this isn't 9 a like Redding is. Redding where I was living before, which has scorpions also is 9 a, so that's just high desert.   Oh. And this   but this is still 9. I don't think where I'm particularly   living's a 9.   Well,   I think that the grading system on that's the ambient temperature.   So I might be a 9, but I'm not in the dry area like,   Redding. So the area I live in,   the natives used to call this water mountain. And so the area I live in is always important.  

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Oh, interesting.   I'm in the   7   a   zone,  

[00:05:36] Unknown:

which is Yeah. Why have golf courses in Phoenix? That makes no sense.   You know, Chicago?   Yeah. And I think it's Scottish. I think you're right is what I was thinking. I couldn't remember if it's Scottish or Irish. I knew it was one of the 2.   So not a golf guy myself.  

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It's not, That's why we need to speak with someone   who understands interest intricacies   of the game.  

[00:06:04] Unknown:

Mark Marcus and I are from pretty much the same area,   just a few hours apart.   And we're we're from   region.   I'm not by the Great Lakes, but I'm the board North,   East border of South Dakota, so it's just that little shot right over there. You know?   And,   Saint Cloud's only, like, 3 hours away or something like that.   But,   hockey is king where we're from.  

[00:06:43] Unknown:

Oh,   behind the, the the scrim here, the the veil the show is about to begin.   It's not quite a muppet show.   I did watch, Jim Henson documentary.   So I might talk about Jim Henson. That's alright with you guys. It's time to play the music. Oh, yeah. I do like lights.   And And rewind the tape. So I run to this videotape, and I gotta rewind it and get it back to the beginning. We got Marcus  

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Unmuted.   And on the on the muppet show tonight.  

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This is kind of a classic. Sing along if you know it.  

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They're done. They say some dumb shit. Good gonna be   alright. We're going by saying hand wave on the mouth of soda   tonight.  

[00:14:10] Unknown:

There, space cadets and terrestrial turnips. Buckle up for a cosmic cabaret where the punch lines of supernova and the rim shots of black hole burping.   We're talking about the future, folks,   where your brain's a disco ball and Elon Musk's the DJ,   spinning tunes that make your neurons do the jitterbug.   Forget that Neuralink hooey that's just chrome plated snake oil for the gullible.   We're all walking talkies by our radios tuned to the symphony of the cosmos.   Every game is a gamma ray, every side a cosmic sigh, and your mood's a doll you can twist and twiddle like a ham radio gone haywire. So what's the big cheese in this cosmic fandango?   Choice   Choice, my friends. Choice. You can boogie with the bossman, tap dance to the market's mambo, or do the robot shuffle to the algorithm's humdrum.  

But let me tell you, bucking the systems a tango with a temperamental toaster   liable to leave you singed in spitting sparks. They got the router, the master key, the password to your pancreas to sense a dial tone on a martian payphone, and freedom is just a meme you gotta pay premium for.   So what's a red blooded earth thing to do? I laugh, of course. Laugh so hard you bend the bandwidth, glitch the grid, and turn the whole darn system into a cosmic kazoo.   Think of it like this, folks. The universe is a cosmic joke and we're the punch line.   So let's be the funniest punch line this side of the Andromeda galaxy.  

Sing show tunes to your toaster, tell knock knock jokes to the vacuum cleaner,   and dance the macarena with the microwave.   Humors the EMP that fries the circuits of control, the cosmic wd40   that loosens the bolts of tyranny.   So raise your antennae, fellow space oddities.   Let's turn this Wi Fi wasteland   into a cosmic comedy club where the punch lines are infinite   and the laughter's louder than a supernova.   We'll be the electromagnetic   March Brothers, the cosmic Laurel and Hardy,   the celestial Abbott and Costello   tickling the cosmos until it begs for mercy.  

Remember, folks, even robots gotta chuckle. Even black holes gotta burp, and even Elon Musk gotta crack a smile when a good joke comes along. So let's laugh our way to freedom 1 cosmic   guitar at a time, boy.   And who knows? Maybe, just maybe, we'll turn this dystopian disco into a cosmic hootenanny   where the robots play the bongos and the stars do the jitterbugs.   Now that's a future I can get behind. So go forth, my friends, and spread the laughter. Let your humor be your weapon, your smile, your shield, and your giggle, your passport to a future that's brighter than a quasar   on a sugar rush.  

And remember, the only thing funnier than a controlled society   is the society that's laughing its way out of control. Now go out there and make the cosmos giggle.  

[00:17:40] Unknown:

You really gonna make it that abrupt?  

[00:17:44] Unknown:

Yes.   Sergey.   Sundew,   sun don't.  

[00:17:58] Unknown:

How are you tonight? Why are you even tall? It's those moments of humanity where you just have to   realize you're on the stage.  

[00:18:07] Unknown:

All the humanity.  

[00:18:10] Unknown:

It's like dance like everyone's watching.  

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Dance, chicken. Dance.   You are on a hot plate.  

[00:18:18] Unknown:

It's like all the   aphorisms have become sort of meaningless and   worn out.  

[00:18:24] Unknown:

That's right. That that that's what Joe Rogan is. He's a puppet.  

[00:18:29] Unknown:

Have you heard the phrase,   you know, it's it's okay. It's okay.   Worse things have happened to better people.  

[00:18:39] Unknown:

Like,   a   You know.   That band.   The band that keeps playing music. The hard one. Because I do feel like most people are extreme whiners at this point. But at the same time,   devaluing,   you know, something going on, of course, you fucking tortured kid that got tortured to death, you know, and never fed or loved that led a worse life than you.   But then again, at the same time at the same time, like I said, people have become such   horrible whiners that, you know, it's almost like   No. Like, I know this guy,   one of my one of my good friends from back home,   his brother,   his brother is just a worthless shit bag and just has the worst attitude all the time. Six flags over there. And,   we asked   I sat down with him one time and I asked him, what is, you know, what's your deal, man?  

And he told   me that   one time   he went out and   shoveled the driveway and the sidewalk.   And when his dad got home, all his dad did was say good job.   And because of that, his life was ruined.   He had no motivation ever. He didn't get anything, you know, for doing it. And so, like, this was his giant   my life is ruined because of this. I'm like,   the fuck?  

[00:20:15] Unknown:

I'd be stoked for a good job Yeah. Throwing up.  

[00:20:20] Unknown:

Well, I'm saying my dad my dad and I gotta be honest. I'm kinda the same way. Like, you know, new people on the farm.   Like, how do you know if if you if I if how do we know if   how do we know if you're happy with it? Because I don't bitch about it.   Mhmm.   That's how you know. I'm like, oh, mhmm. That's the way it should be.  

[00:20:42] Unknown:

You hear about it if you're not doing it. Right? Yep.  

[00:20:46] Unknown:

Yeah. If I'm not screaming, you know it's good.  

[00:20:52] Unknown:

Yeah. Grew up the same way.  

[00:20:55] Unknown:

The reward of shoveling   a driveway is   the ability to live another day to perhaps shovel again.   It's like every day is a struggle   different for everyone.  

[00:21:12] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:21:14] Unknown:

So why do we keep doing it?  

[00:21:16] Unknown:

That's what I've I was trying to think of his name.   The lead singer for Smash Mouth.  

[00:21:22] Unknown:

Oh, yeah.  

[00:21:23] Unknown:

He wrote that all that music that was such a smash hit. You know? It was, like, on Shrek and everything for 10   years. Imagine how sick you'd be of hearing your song   everywhere you go for every second of your life.  

[00:21:39] Unknown:

Oh, man.   Like,   so one of my big when the the the beginning of the end of me when I was doing a ton of shows and just overwhelming,   and   it was the   2020   when I went to New York, and that was the year I was also on the David, the video that David Ike aired the first anti COVID video with Andy Kaufman and all that, and I was on that with Jason Lingering and and,   and,   we were coming back from New York, and we were trying to listen to podcasts.   And so many podcasts said we're talking about what I was talking about or playing clips of shit I was talking about. And finally, I was like, I looked over at Christie, like, halfway through the trip home, like, you fucking tired of this guy like I am? Jesus god.   But you don't wanna ever wanna hear him again. Fuck.  

Yeah. I despise my own voice right now.   Holy.  

[00:22:40] Unknown:

It's rough   sometimes.  

[00:22:48] Unknown:

I can't imagine being Smash Mouth where, like you said, that was   not niche.   You know, that was literally everywhere.  

[00:22:57] Unknown:

Everywhere.  

[00:22:59] Unknown:

And that was his biggest claim to fame. I bet he hated that song.   Yeah. One of the rock star   songs.  

[00:23:11] Unknown:

Well, I wonder what it is.   As as anybody that produces something,   the things that you love and appreciate the most that you find the most amazing are definitely not the popular things. Like, you're like, why don't why does anybody like this super awesome thing? This is like the best ever.   You know? And   and the the the   crowd, like, this other mediocre thing that I didn't even I wasn't even proud of. Everybody thinks that's great.   I don't get it.  

[00:23:42] Unknown:

That's hard. And when I'm looking for music,   I always explore cover songs from lesser known artists. So things aren't,   triggered by   flags. So we recognize this song and we're going to   protect this song more than any other song because it's the most important song. It's like devil went down to Georgia. There's other covers.   Or if someone writes a song, they perform the song, but then it's made popular   by another artist, how humbling that must be.  

[00:24:15] Unknown:

Oh, man.   Yeah.   And hearing that everywhere. Something that you wrote, maybe performed at a coffee shop, and someone overheard it and sent it out to their,   you know, they produced   this rock star, sent it to them, and,  

[00:24:32] Unknown:

man. My wife believed that hurt was made by Johnny Cash, but I've always thought that that would have been the one that was   if Johnny Cash covered your song, like, that's that's gotta be to me one of the most impressive for Musically.   Like, fuck. Johnny Cash wants to redo my song,   but my like, I there's a bunch of people that that's the only version of her they ever heard.  

[00:24:59] Unknown:

Like, Christy? Yeah.  

[00:25:01] Unknown:

Like, Christy.  

[00:25:04] Unknown:

So the message   finds a way. It finds the ears, and it finds the listeners,   but you're not always sure of the original source of it.  

[00:25:15] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, the funny   this is a funny topic, period.   For   oh, Beth Martin.   Hey.  

[00:25:23] Unknown:

It's covered too. I I agree, Karen.  

[00:25:26] Unknown:

Hello.   Hey. Nice to see you guys. Good to see you. Nice to see you, Beth. Yeah. I'm a loyal fan of you guys.  

[00:25:35] Unknown:

We appreciate you.  

[00:25:37] Unknown:

We're loyal fans too.  

[00:25:39] Unknown:

You're loyal fans too. Oh,   that's very nice, Jim. Thank you, Jim.  

[00:25:44] Unknown:

Writers have always supported Beth, and and I believe, you know, I've been friends with Jet and Beth. In fact, I at that 2020 trip I was just talking about is I got to spend time with Beth in person for for, you know, 4 or 5 days,   And that was fantastic.   Really was.   Yeah.   Yeah.   Go ahead. You talk.  

[00:26:09] Unknown:

Yeah. It was really fun when you invited me. I wanted to tell you it was a synchronistic   moment because I've been writing a   a blurb, and I didn't know if it was actually gonna be an email or a blog post or a confession or something for my private association. I didn't know what it was. But,   so something that I so do you guys wanna do therapy on me tonight?  

[00:26:27] Unknown:

Sure. Oh, sure.  

[00:26:28] Unknown:

It's the, institutional part of the   title tonight. Jim, did we even say the title of the show?  

[00:26:34] Unknown:

The title is hashtag wsw258   institutional cruise. I'll I'll not night.  

[00:26:42] Unknown:

There it is.  

[00:26:44] Unknown:

How could you not be blown away by Johnny Cash covering your song? Like, serious. Like, I don't even   do you get big enough to not be, like, wow.   Johnny Cash?   My shit?   You know, like  

[00:27:01] Unknown:

So what did the blurb end up saying? How did it read?  

[00:27:05] Unknown:

It's about my little sister complex.   Yeah.   So It's impressive.   Yeah. Have I ever said that to you, Ben?  

[00:27:15] Unknown:

Well, the first time that we met in person,   you came up to me   and you were very nervous and you stated so very openly. You said, I'm very nervous. I don't feel like I fit in with these other people.   And,   like, I'm on their level.   And she's like, but for some reason, I'm comfortable with you, and you literally   and Christy even talks about this. You hooked your arm into you know, I was standing there, and you hooked your arm into my elbow. And he was   like, okay. I'm with you, man.   Like,  

[00:27:51] Unknown:

you know Wow. Wow. I totally blocked that out of my memory.  

[00:27:57] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. You're like, you know, you make me feel safe.   Yeah.  

[00:28:02] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. No. I did feel like a fish out of water. I got that invitation. I'm like, oh, little sister. Here we come. Right? So, yeah. Yeah. It's been an ongoing theme for most of my life. And I was joking in this blurb that I wrote about how I was scarred as a child   because my older sister tried to teach me math before I could get it.   It was very traumatic. That was my dad.   Right. Right. How many parents   try to   speed their kids up? But, yeah, my sister. So I was left with a left with a wound, and I don't think that was the only one. But, yeah. It's it's so interesting. So,   can I tell us some you guys some news? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. The reason I was writing the blurb is that,   Alex Zeck has hosted me for an interview in Texas. If you didn't hear that, I was there in May with my son. Yeah. We had a fantastic trip.  

And, the interview is releasing tomorrow. So it's a big deal. It's a it's a big little sister moment for me   because even though I'm, several years old or just a few years older than Alec, then I feel like his little sister.   Right?  

[00:29:12] Unknown:

Right. It's   very funny when you, when you took that position with me in 2020,   I I I was like   She said I feel like your kid's sister. Yeah. She's like, I feel like your kid's sister, and I was like, I don't know how I fit in any better with any of these people. Like, I kind of thought I was the low   man on the totem pole here. But, you know, for me, I'm comfortable anywhere. I don't give a shit. Like,   I I don't know. It's it's just that   I'm king of the fucking room no matter what room I'm in. So and I really actually have that energy. So it's I'm not bothered by being the least   known or anything like that. I don't give a shit.  



[00:29:52] Unknown:

Yeah. You're totally authentic   with it. And,   my thing is, like, it's literally a trauma. So I'm not trying to get anybody sympathy or anything like that. But, but what happened to me, maybe in that moment, maybe in other moments, who knows? I'm just telling this story.   Is that there is, like, a, a blankness. So I'll I'll use an example of something that, was a sign of it that I've I had an epiphany on the other night.   When you're trying to, say, set some timer   to expire at midnight that day.   Right? So it's all day and then it's midnight. It's like, you know, and then and then the next minute is   the next day.  

Well, I couldn't figure that out until, like, this week,   how to do that.   It literally didn't compute.  

[00:30:43] Unknown:

The AM PM thing?  

[00:30:46] Unknown:

Well, yeah, sort of. It was that moment.   My my brain couldn't compute it.   It was a short circuit. Yeah. I finally got it. I don't know. Like, yay. It should be today, but it's tomorrow.   It's tomorrow.  

[00:31:00] Unknown:

Yeah. True. True. You are experiencing true you   are experiencing true cognitive dissonance   where you where something was being presented to you and you knew the right answer, but your brain would not   incorporate that into its functioning.   Like you were you   very interesting.  

[00:31:21] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Anyway,   so that's the that's the deal. And the reason that came up is because I'm running an early bird on a course that I got coming up. I think I was telling you, Ben.   Yeah. And,  

[00:31:32] Unknown:

yeah. I got I got your message, a little bit earlier, but I've I was shearing today and things like that. So I just Not a worry. It's fine.  

[00:31:40] Unknown:

Not a worry. But, yeah. So I'm trying to set this early bird, and the the thing ended 24 hours before I expected it to. Right? So it's like,   still not getting   it.  

[00:31:52] Unknown:

The timing is such a strange thing. We're just going through   the longest   day of the year. I think a lot of people are just feeling it. It's that, complete exposure of the sun   with a full moon kind of in the same mix. But for me, it's just been so cloudy and rainy. So I haven't seen the sun. I haven't seen the moon,   but I know they're still there.   There's still that thing going on.   And I guess I I could be real vulnerable because you've been vulnerable with us. I was kinda going through my own shadow work, and I'm like,   you know, I can I can look at calendars, and I know there's there's cycles and and certain things have happened on these days throughout the past, and then looking forward? And I'm just like, what what is what is this this heavy,   soggy   blanket   feeling of, like,   what are we   even doing? It's 2024.  

We went through the global pandemic. We've shifted from an earth air earth to an air sign, whatever that means. It's like   the techno crafts are just in control of everything. We're all gonna work in Amazon factories, and then they just deliver our packages, and they're all crushed   anyway because no one cares   about not crushing the box. So what are we even doing in it? It's just like   just like laying there, and it's like the word comes to mind, like,   disappointment.   Right. Right. What was was that was that just the word?   But then I'm like,   I'm I'm not disappointed in myself. I'm not disappointed in anybody else.  

But it's like acknowledge the possibility of disappointment. Say, no. No. I mean, I'm   the circumstances,   and it's okay to take things at our own pace   and not have to be chasing performance metrics   or even looking at numbers   and algorithms. And so, well, you know, we we performed better 2 years ago, and and now our numbers are dropping. It's everybody's numbers are it's like we're not doing it   for numbers or down. So why are we doing it?   I think because the best is yet to come,   and we're preparing ourselves to be in a position to be ready for   the thing that we don't know what to be ready for yet.  



[00:34:12] Unknown:

Is that kinda how you're feeling too, Beth? Nice. I love that. I I love what you're saying. That's a wonderful positive conclusion or forward  

[00:34:20] Unknown:

Fucking Morpheus like.  

[00:34:22] Unknown:

Yep. Yep. But I want to just point something out that it's like the element of care is really front and center for me right now,   and that's how   the it's it's how it happens. So, like, there can be,   one of the programs that I help people release is called wanting love and approval. Right? When you care so much about what other people think of you that you're, you know, you're crippled by that, or you can't   function in the way that you would like to. And,   and then one version of it, because there's a variety of versions of the programs, but they're identical when you study their signature architecture. That they're just it's it's the same thing. And it's withholding love.   So when you're the one withholding love, you're withholding care.  

And that's what these days are challenging us to,   you know, give up.   And so we go into disappointment   and don't   keep caring.   And that goes against our caring nature   because it is part of, you know,   a lot of who people are.   But it's often because, like, they end up really fixed in that because   love has been withheld from them.   And so here's the point of my,   my blurb that   you when that happens to you, the injury of that,   then   you   basically are invited to make one of 2 choices.   Do you either numb out and not care?   Or do you care a lot?  

And so hats off to everybody who decided to care. Is that such just such a higher road?  

[00:36:07] Unknown:

So this is super interesting because I actually just had a very similar conversation with my mom.   And she was talking about when I was younger, I was a very angry dude.   And but when I was real young,   my mom actually describes Moon as real young as, like,   and this is her description,   is Buddha like.   And   then at some point, it turned to anger.   And I, you know, and I had to explain to her. I said, you know,   people for some reason don't prepare   folks to by telling them   doing the right thing is usually the hard   option. And and and when they say that, all kinds of people will tell you   what they'll do. They'll give up anything to do the right thing, but they don't fucking mean it. Because then when the world comes and exacts its toll,   they get bitter.  

And and and I'm not saying that from a high and mighty position because that's what happened to me for sure. I was a I was a good guy, and I tried to do the right thing,   and it did not pan out. And it it did. It embittered me.   I was angry. You didn't I didn't realize that holding your ground and doing the right thing, the world's gonna challenge you on that.   And and there and like I said, if you if you feel like you'll give up anything to see something through, the world will test that metal   and see how strong it is. Fucking sure. Right? Yeah. Exactly.   Yep. So at some point in time, though,   you know, and I understand, and I don't   I don't hold the ill will toward myself for those angry years.  

But at some point in time, you need to work through it. And at some point in time, and this goes right in with the whole dark night of the soul type concept and all that or shadow work or anything like that, is you have to go and look at the life experiences and look at your participation   in it.   And then look at yourself in a very raw and real way. Don't sugarcoat the shit, you know, and give the the,   what in court we would call they call mitigating factors.   Don't use mitigating   factors.   Like, this is this is what happened, and this is what I did. And then from a third perspective,   go, do I am I happy with that? Do I want that? Is that what I want to be representative of me?  

And at that point in time, if it is,   stick with that shit. If it's not,   adjust it.   That's that's what you do. But   so the same thing's gonna happen when you decide I'm gonna keep doing what I believe to be the right thing.   And   when I've when you get over that   paying the penalty,   now it's time to decide, is it worth it? Do I really am I was I really being honest when I said I will give anything to do what's right? Was I being honest or was I fucking lying? Was I front?   Was I was I trying to put out an ego   that's not really me, but I wanted people to believe this about me.   And so we all the world's gonna fucking put you to the test on your world or on your words. Like, that shit you represented and tried to represent, the world's gonna come check you on it, and you best be prepared to pay the price.  

Doing the right thing very seldomly   gets you some awesome   goo goo feeling like a fucking hero movie at the end. Most of the time, you're kinda unhappy that you did it.  

[00:39:42] Unknown:

Yeah. But I guess you'd be unhappier if you didn't.  

[00:39:45] Unknown:

Exactly.   That's exactly it. And you know what? When I was a kid, that's how they told you you made a good bargain. When both fucking when both parties walked away bitching, that's how you know it was a fair deal.  

[00:39:58] Unknown:

When you said bitching, do you mean both parties are complaining that they were Yeah. That they didn't get a great that they didn't get a good deal. The language is the language is difficult, and I I guess my   realization lately with   I know we harp on censorship   all the time, but it's an important topic.   And it's really this this ability to speak, and it's like this language engine inside your, you know, your heart, your mind, your your chakras all aligned. You're just you're just trying to communicate,   and so many people   online in real life, whatever, just don't have the opportunity to, like, warm up their voice,   practice   speaking   without   feeling like   someone's gonna cut them off   or interrupt them or just delete their posts online   or pull their rug out from under them   when people are allowed   to speak in this loving, caring   environment   and trying on words   and not them say, well, no. Actually, you know what?  

I use the word disappointed. I'm not disappointed.   It's like these are   the swords of the words of the weapons.   And because of the warfare happening everywhere,   we're all, like, being told to arm ourselves. There's this idea that World War 3 is inevitable. Civil war is going to happen. You know, everyone's going to turn against each other. So take up your arms and your guns and just like camp out defenders.   But do we really need to be on the defensive   all the time and not be able just to speak freely and then say, you know what? Actually,   no. I heard that. I just kinda repeated it.  

Doesn't feel right. No. Just, like, scratch that from the permanent record.   Doesn't matter. It's okay.   Continue on. Okay. Sorry. I had to get that off my chest. Okay. Thank you for listening.   That sort of thing.  

[00:41:59] Unknown:

Yep. It's,   it's an ordeal that we're we're in right now. I'm personally really feeling it.   You know, not not like, oh, yeah. Things are going bad now or   it it's like that. It's just that there's   so much of that confrontation with   what we're talking about. Like, you know,   do you do you give up hope? Do you all the time,   be on your guard? Do you all the time be mistrusting?   Do you all the time be thinking that somebody's trying to take you for,   you know, something to do wrongs to you. And Mhmm.   And, yeah, it it does end up being a really bitter way to live.   I know recently I I had a bad experience with someone that I,   had met, and,   they ended up taking advantage   of my kindness and someone else's kindness and just showed themselves to be a bit of a grifter.  

You know, I don't I don't think evil. I'm not gonna over dramatize with it. But,   it was just one of those   moments where you're it's so tempting to just, like, trust nobody.   Doesn't matter, you know, who they are. Don't open your heart. Don't be kind. Don't,   be vulnerable.   And then and then that can happen. And it is a reality. Right? It wasn't   the worst experience ever, the most traumatic by any means.   But what's the alternative is that you go through life with this big   armor on and keep everybody out, and that just seems wrong.  

[00:43:38] Unknown:

Yeah. The the building up of defenses and   the idea of another cold war starting. It's like that's just kind of out there, and we're all feeling it. And I had the thought earlier, like, this sort of this love and approval thing,   and then you go on social media, and then people are arguing about whether   x now Twitter or Twitter was that whatever it is.   So, like, even that sort of x is, like, former   former. It used to be this way, but now it's a different way, and someone imposes things. So now they're taking our our likes away. And people formerly known as Prince.   It it was a bluebird. It was a mockingbird.  

It was I could see all the symbols and associations,   everything.   But it really is just that that social media addiction   where   it was fun for a while, and now it's just the opposite of fun. And why are people still doing it? Because they're trying to do it,   and it's like getting out of that hurt so much.   And with the I I think the theme is just, like, communication   restoration, like, figuring   out how do we talk to each other again. It's like we were forced to do Zoom calls,   you know, wear masks,   you know, stand 6 feet apart   Yeah. Socially distance. Well, what does that mean? Like,   further yourself   from parents and family and and friends and people you associate with that are in your proximity,  

[00:45:03] Unknown:

that sort of thing? Yeah. Yeah. Like, that's the thing. I I gave a talk at the nonconformist   series that Anarco put Poco put on recently,   And it was about decentralized   societies because that's very popular now, people thinking about the parallel society. Mhmm. And there's a lot of different angles that they were coming at it from. And my angle is that, like,   first thing is we're gonna have to learn to get along   and   take care of each other in a healthy way and have healthy boundaries and you know? Because without that stuff,   you don't really get to that place of in a relationship   where you can get past hurdles because every   close relationship   gets complex. It brings you shit up,   and you're gonna have to deal with shit one way or another.  

And we're not there yet. Right? I just and I I like, I'm still working on it myself.   But,   you know, I that's what I see is is a place that we can put a lot of energy and get a lot of gain.  

[00:46:06] Unknown:

So   this isn't very interesting because it's honestly what we kind this is very much in the vein of what we talked about talking about tonight.   And,   so one of the,   big problems that I end up running into with these communities is they don't really think out what they're saying.   Like, they don't put it they don't put that shit to the fire.   And that's a problem.   Like, you need   to, you know, work out   how all this is gonna pan out. And one of the bigger problems that we have so far in the community is everybody seems to think that   we're all gonna agree, and that's just not feasible.  

The fact is is   I don't see   any system   that can   stand   that's the size that our country is, that the United States is or Canada even where you are.   Canada is a lot more a lot less population,   a lot more, you know, you know, what people would consider, like, remote or urban. You have very few actual or rural, I mean. You have very few, cities that even qualified   as an urban area.   The United States,   also low population, especially for the land mass that we're talking about.   When you talk to   Europeans   and   even, like, people from Africa, things like that, when they talk about how Americans aren't traveled,   well, people don't take into account that every that a midsize state is a country for most of the world. That 90% of the world, the countries are only as big as a midsized state.  

And so if you've   traveled or you're experiencing,   you know, in land mass size,   well we're still talking about vastly different cultures.   And one of the easy ones that I can bring up is is gun control.   Now if I lived in, let's say, LA,   I can understand   where gun control advocates say that something like an AR 15   15 is only used to take a human life because in their experience,   that's the only way it's been used. And when you listen to their arguments, they give away their experience when they say, well, who would use an AR 15 for hunting?   Now   you take my life experience and the people where I live, where   every week there's an,   pictures in in our Facebook group of   we have an emergency group of the mountain, you know, where because we all live remotely and have to rely on each other.  

And somebody's got a fucking picture of a bear   or a mountain lion   or something like that. And it's all good to say that you don't need semiautomatic   gunfire   when you're hunting a fucking bird or a a elk even or something.   But when a rampaging mountain lion or bear is on your property,   you might feel a little different about how many shots you can get out in the same duration.   You know? Yep.   Just a little bit.   So   I understand where they come from with the laws that they try to make, but those laws don't apply here because the living doesn't apply here. So when you take that, that's just in fucking California.   Just in fucking California.  

When you expand that to the entirety of the United   States, oh, that's impossible.   You cannot make you there the the amount of unilateral   laws that everybody can accept   is gonna be so small. And our federal government has become so fucking overwhelming.  

[00:49:53] Unknown:

Exactly.   That's why when they preach unity, it's just a bunch of bullshit.   And that that's the globalist agenda right there, and that's what, unfortunately, a lot of our people keep talking about.   So yeah.   And, I was gonna say that   someone was telling me that there's a,   there well, it's actually for since the last 5 years. It's nothing new, but they've been trying to get, Canadians   to sell their firearms to the government.   They was like, we'll buy firearms because we don't want you armed.   And,   so then it didn't work. The the post office   and the RCMP and the police refused to participate because they would have to.  

And, and then my son told me that they ran out of money. In fact, they had made this big offer, but they couldn't follow through   with this. Right? Like, it's so   it's so stupid. That that that's what woke my son up was the gun laws.   Then he started to really look in and go, this is bullshit.   Yeah.   So yeah. No. It's   a a total shit show. Yeah.  

[00:51:06] Unknown:

A truly strong person is not intimidated by other people having strength.   And it's only you show how very weak you are   when you need to disarm   and make sure that you have the upper hand in order to to go into a situation.   It's super pathetic.   And these people at today totally show what they what they think. And the funny thing is,   what I find you know, when you look at the political arenas,   the people that push for gun control the most   also   are very anti police. They push for defund the police and things like that.   And it's like, who do you think? So you only want them to have guns, but you   I I don't even understand what the fuck you're doing. Like, think things through for just a second.  



[00:51:55] Unknown:

Yeah.   Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. No. It's crazy. And so that makes me think of something else I've been really considering lately is,   cooperation versus   competition.   And it's that's been very weaponized against us   by the globalists. Right? So that we're all supposed to be, you know, nicey nicey getting along, which is, like, supposedly   an ideal there. And   and but I but I do see that competition, competitiveness   does   like, is a killer   between   people that should be working together.   But is there   some place in nature is it are we talking masculine, feminine here? Yes. Very simple. Right? Like yeah. Pure and fucking simple. Yeah. The feminine is cooperation.  

[00:52:46] Unknown:

The masculine is competition.   And,   like, if you see a group of true men around each other   and they're working together,   you'll never see more work get done as each dude is like,   you know, I just chop fucking a 100 pieces of fucking old. Well, I just did a 110,   motherfucker. What you got?   Oh, yeah. You'll watch men damn near break themselves trying to outdo each other. Right on. In productive   competition.   You know? But   at the same time, you need cooperation.   Like, the 2 things gotta go hand in hand.  

[00:53:24] Unknown:

Right. Exactly. As usual, that's the punch line with these 2 archetypes. Yep. Yep. You got it. Yeah.   This could be mildly related. I was just talking to my farmer friend who has,   loved chickens and turkeys and everything like that, and, skunks   are on like, they're serious predators. I had no idea.   They broke in and went on a feeding not a feeding frenzy, a like a a blood bath just, like, killing them all and biting the heads off of them and leaving all the bodies everywhere. They're weasel cousins. Anything related to weasels, minks,  

[00:53:58] Unknown:

ferrets, any of those things,   absolute killers.   Just monsters.  

[00:54:04] Unknown:

Right. Like and what's that?   What's going on? Like, where where in the scale of the masculine feminine would you find that?  

[00:54:12] Unknown:

I I I find it in in situationally extraordinarily extraordinarily useful.   Again, just like anything else in the world, there's a balance. Now you look   at some of these areas like Australia,   where they have a extraordinary   rat problem.   They they really do, though. The country is overrun with rats, especially the rural areas where the food is.   Well,   you see these,   all kinds of people now are putting together these teams, and you can find videos of them where they take these,   ferrets or mink   or, you know, something in that vein.   And they'll throw it because those things, they throw them right in them rat holes.  

Well, rats outbreed those things by far. You know, rats breed that popping out kids like you wouldn't believe.   So they're a natural   balance to that system.   Now if they're in an ecosystem   that is short on prey, well, now they become a bad predator.   And this is something that we just need to start understanding   in life,   period.   This is part of why,   Karen b and I had talked about and why we're starting this whole thing where it's more   instead of just people speaking and presenting things, it's an actual mystery school   where you're actually touching and doing things. And, like, when you start doing something like simple, like gardening,   and you take in   as above so below.  

You start looking at your garden and understanding things like,   what we would call harmful or   predatory.   Well, those predatory things up to a certain level actually do beneficial work.   So, like, you can have bacteria   that will go and attack the root system. But the first thing they do is they eat the shit on the outside of the root system, which exposes fresh root,   which is a which is able to intake the nutrients and moisture   much better because it doesn't have this dead layer of nasty on it. Now,   if too many of those things start populating the area, they start eating the root material.   This is no different than like something like elderberry.  

Elderberry is actually a poison.   But the way that it works as a cure is   that   it's   the things that are abnormal in your body are gonna get poisoned easier than your overall system.   So you're gonna survive this mild poisoning   that these other things that are, you know, foreign to you cannot survive.   And so this is a very natural thing in it all around. All these different things that we label poison or predatory,   Very often,   simple wolf deer   analogy that we see the government fucking with all the time. You take the deer out of the or wolves out of an area, you're overrun with deer. All of a sudden they're wrecking crops, they're fucking things up, People are hitting them with their cars every 3 minutes. You know?   And it gets horrible. You introduce too many wolves and the deer all of a sudden are too small. The row the wolves become actual predatory where they start predating,   your field animals and things like that, breaking through fences,   starting to look eyeball humans.  

So   everything in this world, you start finding   is a is a balance, and then a cost to benefit ratio is what really starts   you really need to kinda set as the presiding   factor on how what where you're gonna go with things.  

[00:57:55] Unknown:

Yep.   Yeah. And it's, like,   you're there as a farmer in their ecosystem. Right? It's not the other way around that is that the perspective that we're in,   they're in ours.   And,   yeah, so it becomes a real,   game of stealth   to raise those critters. I have a lot of respect for people who do animal husbandry. So as such as yourself, we're just growing veggies. It's relatively,   not dangerous.   Except to the he said because of the deer are a total predator in my garden.   Right? They eat every grape bud off the the new vine that's been trying to get old for 3 years and   just go and chomp down the lettuces   the moment it's mature and tender.  

And, yep. That's how it goes. I planted strawberries today going like, here you go, dear.  

[00:58:52] Unknown:

Party on. For the strawberry moon.   I guess if the strawberries were   already in the ground and maybe   if there's, like, a 2 year cycle or something, I got some strawberries that I just completely forgotten about and you know, realizing a strawberry moon. And then now I'm thinking, oh, probably   the first batch is already   already eaten. The leaves are all probably chewed off already. Those those rabbits   found it. They they know. They're probably defending it   and waiting for just to turn   just sweet enough for them to bite into it and take it all off the line.  

[00:59:25] Unknown:

I know you're both banking. Like, should I get it now? Should I get it now? Should I take it on right? Because I won't get it otherwise. Well, I recognize that it's at ground level.  

[00:59:34] Unknown:

It's free game. I that's sort of where it's at. So if I'm planting   strawberries for myself, then maybe I'll hang them higher off   the ground on a wall or something so I'm not bending over to reach them, putting them in a in a different place. So I could plant strawberries for,   you know, the the wild game to just devour them however they want to. But if I'm planting for myself, it's gonna be a little bit different. That's part of the planning and kind of having the balance.  

[01:00:01] Unknown:

Yep. There you go. You need some strategy  

[01:00:03] Unknown:

around This is my,   my mountain.   I haven't actually grown a garden until this year because we basically had to build a fortress, and we built an island inside of a fortress. So now these animals eat my shit. Some bitches.  

[01:00:18] Unknown:

You know, it's frustrating.   Yeah. I was,   last year, every time I go to the garden, they'd eaten the the pea shoots and the bean shoot and the bean flowers. That was lovely. You know, every every day, it was like chomp chomp chomp. And then I'm I'm there going like, god, why?   Why? Why are the deer eating all of these? And then god said to me, responded, and said, Beth, you have too much   like this. And you know what? At the end of the season, it was true. I did end up getting a pretty decent decent harvest and only, you know, like, I'm scrambling to   use and preserve  

[01:00:52] Unknown:

what I got. So You need to talk to whatever god you're talking to. I don't know. That that he he sounds very fucking communist.  

[01:01:00] Unknown:

Yep.   Yep.  

[01:01:02] Unknown:

They will check out who you're talking to and and then put up better fences. That's what I would do. And then and then then   tan your food because you you probably don't have too much. If you're still buying   food, you don't have too much. You aren't producing for yourself yet. For sure. Do you have any gardening?  

[01:01:19] Unknown:

No. I think I had beans until,   April already, so that was really fun.   I'm a hit to that. But,  

[01:01:27] Unknown:

yeah. Yeah. Your guys should've told you put up better fences, Beth.  

[01:01:32] Unknown:

Well, no. It doesn't work here. You should see the the scale of the fences people try for keeping the deer out. They are, like, magical special variety of deer that scale the the tallest  

[01:01:44] Unknown:

fences. Yeah. Then put up an electric.  

[01:01:47] Unknown:

Yeah. That's it. Yeah. Too bad I have no electricity  

[01:01:50] Unknown:

or water. You don't need it. No. Most almost all electric fences now, they run off with a little battery because, I mean, it's just a low voltage charge that's usually not going anywhere   unless something touches it. You know, it's only gonna drain the system if something's just sitting there touching it for no apparent reason, which I actually have seen. Like, one time, we put electric fence around our our   bales because that's really the only way you can keep them away from bales if they're not in a building. They will break any fencing   seeing their food sit there. Yeah. And   but a a lamb had gotten over the electric fencing and was hit stuck on it. Only   most electric fences are surge,   so it's just   and so this little fucking poor lamb as I'm running out there to try and help, it's like.  



[01:02:44] Unknown:

So sad.  

[01:02:48] Unknown:

Don't you have any scarecrows set up?  

[01:02:52] Unknown:

But,   scarecrows is gonna be for, actual crows.   But if you put,   either electric fence or they have a motion activated,   sprinklers.   So there's a sprinkler that you can put. Yeah. And those are really pretty cool.   They don't like them. No. Not at all. They don't like getting host, especially, you know, something   they move and it it goes at them. They think, what the fuck is that? And then it starts spraying water. They run away. So either that or electric fence, which again, you have a battery.   It they run off a solar panel.   Almost all the electric fence is not anymore. It's just a solar panel and a little garden one. Cheap. Cheap. $100. 100 Yeah. $25.  

It's the first time you're that once.  

[01:03:41] Unknown:

Great tip.   Yep. I'll do it. And and then so it's not gonna hurt  

[01:03:45] Unknown:

you if you bump into it all the time? Yeah. You won't like it. It won't hurt you. It it won't hurt you. We used to fuck it when I was a kid. Oh, God.   So little known fact, the last guy in the line is the one that hurts. So you can go you if your cousin's walking by, you can go and just stick your hand on his shoulder and reach out and grab the electric fence real quick and just.   Yeah. And it doesn't hurt you almost at all. I mean, there's a little a little, but, you know, don't be a pussy. And but him, he gets the he gets the the grounded charge. The.   Yeah. You know? And, oh, god. We used to do that to each other constant.  

That's so funny. Don't pee on it like Billing says. Do not pee on it. Oh, fuck. One time we parked in guys. Electric fence is just a tiny little wire   because it obviously don't do too much.   And my dad accidentally parked up against 1, And I go to get back in the car. I'm like, yeah.   Yeah. Like, what the fuck? The car is fucking shocking me. I don't understand.   Wow. I knew you guys parked up against an electric fence.   That's crazy. Crazy.  

[01:04:55] Unknown:

It reminds me of my trampoline   that,   I don't know why that is the most electrically charged thing I've ever touched before on an ongoing basis. I'm on a second floor on wood. I think that would be somewhat grounding,   but not so much. And, oh man, I hit that. Especially   in the spring before the rain came. Yeah. But, but, yeah, maybe not anymore. I think we're high enough humidity. It finally   isn't happening. But yeah, my hair will stand,   like, all the way up, like the fake space thing   on there at some point.  

[01:05:29] Unknown:

Yeah. It's, an insulator and a conductor right next to each other. It's pretty much   a capacitor or generator.   So it has these sockets on it.   It's like, putting a balloon rubbing a balloon on your head that sticks to the wall.  

[01:05:43] Unknown:

A little electroshock therapy.  

[01:05:45] Unknown:

Did there anyone, did it?  

[01:05:48] Unknown:

Yeah.   Greasy head and,   rubber balloon   to conduct your own   yeah.  

[01:05:55] Unknown:

Classic. So is that bad for you then?   Jumping on that   capacitor?  

[01:06:01] Unknown:

No. I think the concern is if you keep doing it and then you just feel   the compulsion to continue to do the thing, asking, is this good or bad for me? I don't know, but I can't stop doing it, so now I've lost control   of this sort of behavior.  

[01:06:16] Unknown:

We had a friend scooting around   in your socks and, shocking people  

[01:06:21] Unknown:

in the winter time. I think it just makes you feel alive.   It does. It's just talking to the numb that numbness thing. It's like the behaviors that   aren't explained, but it's just like it makes the person feel   alive   in a moment. It's like, okay. Well, let them have that experience.  

[01:06:37] Unknown:

That's all Tesla devices were was, you know, different devices   for,   different parts of your body, and they were just sending a mild charge through you.   That's all that that's all it was.   Mhmm.   Clive DeCarlo goes on about it.   You know, he's got he had a couple. I didn't have any money. He was selling 1.   Amanda got he was selling 2 of them, and Amanda got one of them.   He even had one, like, for putting it on your genitals and shit. I'm like,   go ahead and keep the shock out of my dick.  

[01:07:11] Unknown:

Well, I think that, you know, those   garden, in the garden people put   the antennas, and the wire that goes down into the ground, and it's supposed to, electro culture.   It's supposed to make your plants grow quite a bit. But, like like, everything else,  

[01:07:28] Unknown:

people half ass it and they're full of shit mostly.   So, like, that shit was all the rage last year. All the fucking rage. You don't see no all the rage.   I did a garden, a bed right here, and a bed right here. This one's, like, 3 times taller than this one. You don't see that at all. And and and what they didn't do was take the study further and understand that and the information's out there   that at certain voltages   that there's different benefits and and   and effects.   You know? Some of them are negative   on the plants and on the soil. So some of the some of the different   get out of the wires. Come on.  

You don't belong in there. Some of the voltages   increase the vigor of the growth.   Some of them,   kill pests.   Some of them kill beneficial things.   Free kittens.  

[01:08:21] Unknown:

Mhmm. Free kittens.  

[01:08:26] Unknown:

Some of them kill beneficial things. Free kittens for everybody. Just come get the kittens.   Make as many as you want.   Well,   be with when you take that understanding and you start applying it that it took different voltages to get different results.   Well, now you can't just willy nilly fucking do this. So   depend between the ground and the air and then between the the temperature and the of the ground and the air and the moisture difference and all that, you achieve different voltages.   This is just a basic earth battery that we're talking about at that point.   Which is why free energy hasn't nobody can get it to work because there's no amperage. But it does   alter voltage, and you can end up getting voltage.  

And so if you're gonna be truly doing electric culture and expect to see real results, you need to really go about it in a real fucking scientific way. And understand that,   okay. I'm trying to achieve this amount of voltage   and and so I can achieve this result. Because I've studied and I've seen that, and and you know, the information I've been given at least tells me that I'll get this result at this voltage.   Now you need to back build your system to achieve   that voltage.   Not just fucking make a coil in a pretty shape and jam it in the ground,   and expect something to happen out of it. Like, when you look in, we actually did a show on a was it was it on my show or was it with us? I can't remember. Because I said it it's been a year or 2 since this became popular. But I pulled up old pictures of setups of actual scientific electric culture   And   the antennas that they were using to run these lines, they were taller than the fucking church steeple.  

So, you know, we're not talking about a pretty shape that they attached to a stick and jammed in the ground.   They were actually trying to pull real voltage differential.  

[01:10:31] Unknown:

Yeah. I I,   honestly, I bought some copper wire, and then I never even made the sticks. And I just went, you know what? Something just doesn't,   I don't know. Just sounds stupid to me. It sounds stupid. So I know everybody was into it.   But like you said, no one's saying anything now. So,   like, I've never seen so many,   versions of the the quick and instant cure for everything come out than I have in the last 4 years.   So bizarre. Like, I finally stopped falling for it in that respect, like, chasing every, like, oh, you know?  

[01:11:13] Unknown:

Each one of them becomes your own little cult. Mhmm. Whether it be,   detox cult or   the Parasite. Parasite cold   or the running cold? Yeah. No. It's like and all these people are just fucking crazy with it. They're just crazed with it. Like, wow.   And, yeah, they're still looking. And even though they have all these answers   and cure alls,   none of them are, like   you start noticing none of them are particularly healthy people.  

[01:11:44] Unknown:

Well, that's proof in the pudding. Yeah. That's the proof. But here's the thing. Like, one of my students part thing, she's going, like, you know, I'm doing everything right, and I've been to great months now. Appealed so much, and I've transformed my life. And everything is,   you know, so much better than it used to be,   but   still struggling with my health.   And,   you know,   I instantly go to the scale upon which they are trying to kill us.   Right? Like, it it has exponentially   increased. It's just a fucking fact. I was talking to my osteopath, and I said, like, you know, you've been in this healing   business for a long time or whatever.  

And what what have you noticed and seen about   people's ability to heal? And,   he said there's been a huge decline.   And especially if you go back as far as the fifties, the way that people could get   instant enlightenment, like, you know, people I would you guys know about Walter Russell? Are you into him?   He's gonna   move on now. Yeah. Yeah.   And,   and, you know, so so I'm I'm   I hate to admit it. Kind of there's parts parts of me that are skeptical and picking up the other parts that I'm   relate you know, that I can make use of.   So not trying to not to get in the bath water about it.  



[01:13:07] Unknown:

No. I you're you're in a good place. Walter Russell was brilliant, but at the same time, he was intuiting   much of what he was saying   without any actual application   or practical experience behind it. He was just   imagining   that's how it would be.  

[01:13:25] Unknown:

Well, they certainly claim otherwise. Do do you know Matt Presti?   Mhmm. Yeah. Because they, in fact, just did a couple of videos responding to that exact,   thing that he gets criticized for. Oh, he's in the interest. Well, I mean, Matt Presti, does he have  

[01:13:41] Unknown:

lab work that Yes. That he did. Yeah. The repeatable lab. Else has ever produced that, and I've checked out Walter Russell, of course.  

[01:13:50] Unknown:

Yeah. No. He's they did a they did a lab for that exact reason.   So independently got results, and it's all videoed, and you can see it. So I'll send that if you like. Yeah. Matt's been at it for the longest time, and,  

[01:14:03] Unknown:

really, it was someone else's marketing.   Oh, so we can we can laugh at that. Someone else's marketing brought attention to the name of   Walter Russell.   So now Matt Presse's he's had he's got his work ready. He's put it out.   He's ready to take interviews. He's prepared. He knows how to answer the questions, and now   people are, you know, probably knocking at his door every day saying, hey. Come on and tell us about Walter Russell. Exactly. Interested in Walter Russell now. Exactly.  

[01:14:35] Unknown:

Yeah.   So so   so what you're saying though at this point though is that they went back and they did a lab experiment on something that he said.   So the problem with   Russell himself is he did no lab work. He and and you can read his stuff. I mean, and I'm, again, not trying to just shit on Walter Russell. Some of his stuff is brilliant. Don't get me wrong. Mhmm. But if you go and listen to him, he'll tell you how he intuited,   you know, or or envisioned,   many of these things or,   it was almost on the vein. He doesn't quite say,   you know, where, like, a lot of people are visited by a spirit, and it gives it to him. He didn't quite go to that extent with it.  

But he also when he approached colleges,   that was part of their problem with it because he went because he never attended college or or took any schooling for any of this. And then also didn't do any lab work, so you've got a guy that's just, you know, having visions or whatever.   Well, when you're approaching the scientific community with that, that's a that's a real hard sell. I mean, I know in the pseudoscience community,   having visions is is a pretty legitimate thing. But   in science, you gotta back it up, and he never did the science work.  

[01:15:57] Unknown:

Maybe that wasn't his job or his calling to do that and maybe not his full responsibility.   Conceptualizing   an idea   and then writing   it down and spreading the information   will inspire other people who will then take it and kind of spin it off into their own direction.   There's a benefit to that as well. So it's not a it's not saying Walter Russell, you didn't do enough. It's like, Walter Russell, you did so much. And now it's just taking   people   so much time to work with the ideas and figure it out and then   maybe turn into a a practical thing. Clock at 8 at night.  



[01:16:39] Unknown:

Me? Dunshay.  

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Got the percolator?  

[01:16:43] Unknown:

What was that, Alan? I missed your Is there a fish in the percolator?  

[01:16:48] Unknown:

Who's drinking coffee?  

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Cracked it. I've only had half a cup. That is some crack head behavior. What at 8 at night, couple hours before bedtime? Do you need a cup of coffee before? Blinds. So   Holy.  

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I used to love coffee at night because my adrenals were totally burnt out.  

[01:17:09] Unknown:

Is it a calming effect?   No. It's a hopeful effect. Like, there's gonna be some energy. There can be. That was me. Well, that that's a interesting phenomenon. It's like you're in you're in bed. You're trying to trying to relax. I let me put it in first verse. I'm in bed.   I'm trying to relax, and then all of a sudden, all the ideas,   all the inspiration,  

[01:17:32] Unknown:

all the problem solving. It's like Jen put a paraplegic in her butt and thought that I wasn't gonna say that shit out loud. Are you fucking kidding me? Are you kidding me? Bariplegic   coffee, the best coffee in your butt.  

[01:17:46] Unknown:

Enema of the state?  

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Oh, speaking of did you say enema of the state?   That's brilliant because I was just thinking to ask you guys, what do you think of coffee enemas?  

[01:18:05] Unknown:

Periplegiate coffee is the best for coffee enemas.  

[01:18:10] Unknown:

It's the acid that gets it. That's what causes the that stomach knots,   And his he's got that low he's got that no acid, especially if you get the stuff that's anaerobically   fermented. Adds a little bit of expensive coffee to be putting in your butt, though. So I don't know about that. Talking recreationally, or is there a a necessary,  

[01:18:30] Unknown:

sort of function of this?  

[01:18:33] Unknown:

I you know, it's supposed to all the, because the coffee, it actually loosens up your, liver and lets out all the the toxins that you've been holding on to. And there's a lot of people like   like myself. I don't have these issues, but people that have been having   movement problems where you start   not going every day and going every other day or every 3rd day or having 5 days of not going and then not actually   moving everything back out. Well, that starts hardening and binding in your system,   and naturally, you don't get that out. So the coffee, it makes it makes your, intestines   flood with water, and it opens up your liver and then you can dump all that out.  

There's a lot of people that they developed a black plaque   inside of your wall inside of the walls and, like, what is it? John Wayne, they say, died with, like, £50 of   moved   shit inside of him. Like, can you imagine how stagnated your system is at that point and how talks you know,   those things   our intestinal system is the length it is for a specific reason when we digest things. And things that don't fit into that digestive pattern   are supposed to be moved out.   And now those things are sitting and rotting, fermenting,   doing all kinds of really toxic things causing inflammation.  

And so sometimes   people need that kind of thing. I'm not one of them.   You know, I eat a I'm a vegetarian, so I have a fairly high fiber diet anyways.   You know, people talk about I tried being vegetarian, but I ship for, like, 3 times a day for, like, a week. Well, yeah, you had a bunch of bound stuff. You you know? Could be the iceberg lettuce too. Emily Moyer.   Love you.  

[01:20:23] Unknown:

What about iceberg lettuce, Alan?  

[01:20:27] Unknown:

It's probably not necessary. You know, know? Not everyone needs to have a salad with every meal all the time. Iceberg lettuce is absolute,  

[01:20:34] Unknown:

you know, nutrient dead garbage. It's,   you know, that's I don't know. It's because it's so flavorless that people enjoy the the toppings flavor type thing. So the salad's taking up a bunch of room, and that's their excuse to get the 1,000 islands and the whatever amount. Of the crunch goes into a taco or something. I I guess what we're talking about in general now is the idea of a of of a fad  

[01:20:58] Unknown:

thing, and there's such a a knock on effect from enough people talking about if it's   enemas or or whatever it is, the thing, and then they've done it, so now they know how to explain how to do the thing. So they have the tools to make a video and they're told to be content creators. So then they figure out how to do the thing and then they make a video and now they have to promote that video.   Not everyone   needs to be doing coffee enemas   every Sunday morning for the rest of their life because they learned   that skill.  

What we're talking about is these these fads and these self diagnosis   of neurosis   and just trying to figure things out. And it's because, well, I saw   someone else talking about it. Now I need to try it and then talk about my experience with it.  

[01:21:50] Unknown:

If you're gonna do it, though,   paraplegic.   Okay.   Great. Alright.   For your butt. 410-708   7622.   Tell the fat man I sent you.  

[01:22:04] Unknown:

That's bear paraplegic as in the bears. Right?  

[01:22:09] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. He he was with that community. He's still you know, he's it's  

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The branding stuck.  

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Yeah.   And was that his phone number? 401-708-622.   Maybe I didn't get the last number.  

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4107087622.   Christie likes the stuff that's been, fermented in in bourbon.   She really liked that one, but I wouldn't put that one in my butt if I were you.   That that one's a little expensive. I don't know if the bourbon's how that's gonna how that's gonna sit inside your bum.  

[01:22:43] Unknown:

It's like a double dog deal. Yeah.  

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Yeah.  

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Yeah. Yeah. But the low affinity is what you're looking for, and most coffees are super, super acidic.   In fact,   the whole reason that most coffees are dark roast is because then it just caramelizes things and gives it a sweetness, but you don't actually get to taste the coffee in any way. So those are, like, the shittiest quality of coffees.   100%.  

[01:23:08] Unknown:

So you would go with a light roast?  

[01:23:11] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. Never a dark roast. All you're looking at in a a dark roast is is caramelizing   everything that's in there,   again, which is what makes it popular. Because in this country, if something's not   exorbitantly   sweetened   because we are   damn   corn syrup culture.   You know? If we don't have if it's not super sweet, we can't, we can't have it. Interesting. I should turn on the comments.  

[01:23:42] Unknown:

Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Because they're you know, again, the coffee enemas are   are being touted as the big,   cure to everything, and it just, you know, just I said I don't do it, but  

[01:23:53] Unknown:

I don't have that problem. If you have   that problem,   if your body is toxic, you may need to detox. These dumb fuckers that are all about all the time detoxing, you're fucking dumb. Maybe you have a toxin problem once. If you have to detox every other day or every week, why are you dumping that many toxins into your body? When we say things like,   oh, they they ruined us. They're trying to control us. No.   Actually, we asked for most of that. We asked for food you can stick in a microwave. When microwaves came around, everybody loved them. How many motherfuckers talk about it, but still have a microwave in their house? How many people know how deadly they are and still have   a microwave?  

How many people still eat food out of a can?   You know?   It's   so you can what it really turns into is you're basically you're basically just quiet protesters.   Oh, I want this thing the way I want it.   Oh, but I don't wanna do it for myself. You should give it to me in the way I want it.   And and then also   the thing is is they start asking super unreasonable things. Like, they want food. Josh, I'm on a fucking show.   Give him some food right now.   Fucking not only do they want the food, they want it taste a certain way. They want it to be healthy, and they want it to be shelf stable and easy to cook.   Then it's good.  

It's not it's not good in any other way. Like, you know, so they want all those factors, and all those factors don't collide.   Mhmm. So good food is not shelf stable food. If it is shelf stable, then you're gonna lose some of the things. But sometimes if you do it the right way, you're gonna gain some of it. But now you're eating a bunch of fermented foods and things like that. And even then, it's got a a limited duration shelf life. It's not the things that you can like, ramen noodles, which could fucking potentially be the same thing 200 years from now. I don't fucking know.   Yeah. You know? But they're really easy to make and real cheap, and   they didn't make that choice for you. You made that choice. You wanted the ramen noodles. I I go out and I eat a fresh food diet. And you bet we throw out a chunk of food. We got a fucking pig down there. Loves it. Super happy with more food we throw away.  

And, you know, you start living in that means. You can't have milk   that'll last in your fridge for 2 weeks that you bought out of a store that was driven to a store that came from a per bottling factory   that, you know, came from a farm   when milk goes bad in 4 days, 4 to 5 days.  

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No.  

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You can't do it.   So you get to either buy your milk from the store   or you get to have a cow around that you have to put the effort in to taking care of to get the fresh milk.  

[01:26:59] Unknown:

The beauty is with the raw milk is that it ferments rather than rots.   Yeah. It's so much nicer.  

[01:27:06] Unknown:

Turns into cheese.  

[01:27:08] Unknown:

Yeah. It turns into, you know, something you can continue to use in a lot of different ways. So, yeah, it's super good. Do they pasteurize coconut  

[01:27:16] Unknown:

water as well?   So, like, all these things   are getting   processed in the worst possible ways, and we kinda make that concession where, you know, the the concession stand. The idea of, like, we'll just we'll just let that little   microaggression   slide. We're not gonna make a big deal out of it. Been thinking a lot of, like, subversion   in how   now we're at the tipping point where everybody   pretty much everybody,   can point out little acts   of subversion   over the years to get us away from   health   and balance.   And now I think what Balderson's saying is like, hey.   If we agree to not have a microwave in in the kitchen,   no microwave.  

Let's not use a microwave.   Okay.   If I don't want a microwave and you make me food and you put something in the microwave and you give me microwave food,   well, don't offer me microwave food if I've said that that's sort of my position. I don't want microwaved   food.   So now we're having to figure out   how do we push   back   to return to a balanced   point of view without being seen as a a diva because the subversion was so easy. It was such a slippery slope   down to this sort of mucky muck area. But now we're like, you know what?   We're tired of living   in this not quite   optimal state of being,   and no one's really happy with it, but what are we gonna do? And who's gonna stand up and say, well, we can live a little bit better in each day,   form a new habit.  



[01:28:58] Unknown:

I love that. So  

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They're add some personal tease at me. It's just a little personal tease because my big things are and it's funny because little,   doesn't know, like, lentils hate lentils make me gassier than anything on the planet, and I hate Firm boundary.   Hate Puente.   Fucking hate it.  

[01:29:18] Unknown:

Mhmm. Mhmm. But here's here's the thing. So, like, you know, I'll just say Amanda. I love her and everything. Amanda Vomer.   She's she's, like, probably the healthiest person that you could possibly know,   and she does regular enemas. And then and then, Rose recommended this group, and,   oh, boy. They chat a lot. And they they're doing enemas every single day. And these are healthy people. Right? So that then that makes me wonder   what's going on there that's healthy  

[01:29:45] Unknown:

in spite of the behavior patterns that don't match anybody else? Again  

[01:29:50] Unknown:

again,   with my diet   and and here's here's where I stand with all of this, Beth.   All these people taking all the the fucking,   supplements.   All the people taking the, you know, the doing the different detoxes.   And all the people,   you know, fucking doing the regular enemas. Why the fuck are you not eating right? What the fuck is your problem? No. But I mean, she's not eating. Amanda's the best eater  

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ever. Right? Like, she's all over that. She's a really good she's very good. Amanda  

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Amanda drinks her pee. That's all I'm saying. You can't follow everything Amanda does. I do. She also she also does the whole  

[01:30:32] Unknown:

she thinks the government, like, has free money for all your bills and shit, and that's nonsense. That's dis that was kinda disappointed. I'm sorry to say. I would you know, and same thing I've been hearing,  

[01:30:43] Unknown:

everybody's saying it. Why are they still saying it? I like, we said it too, but it's so bullshit. And it's just, like, yeah. It's such a dead end. Nothing passed away. Holding up a check, you know, or a bill paid by the government that says, no. Not a fucking one of them, but they keep propagating these things just like everybody that propagated the the electoral culture.   The thing is is we are disingenuous   as fuck as a community, as a as a genre. Because we don't go back when we find out better information   or we test something. We don't go back and own it. You know, like   I I still have the video up that says, I thought the sun was feminine and the or the sun was masculine and the moon was feminine.  

I don't believe that anymore, and I have specific reasons, but that video is still up because I had reasons. Now I've got more reasons,   including even those that further explain what's going on and what what's, you know, the whole transactional thing going on. But   if we can't own   the shit that we say that's not quite on,   then fuck you, man. We're just a bunch of hypocrite, jackass liars.   Yeah. Then we're not tired of it in the community.  

[01:31:55] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Don't don't spout off about   knowledge and science and   be all intrepid if you can't take on one new thought.   And,   you know yeah. Yeah. It's true. So no. It's it's a it's a real mind fuck. Excuse my language. But there's   I don't know. Like, I I I think I'm damaged.   Right?   All of that going down those rabbit holes. And, you know, I'm a pretty good self experimenter, so I will try all kinds of things on myself. And,   I don't know. Like, I'm I'm eating so fucking clean right now, and I'll still have days where I'm stupid toxic.   Like, why? What? And I've been cleansing for a fucking year.  



[01:32:37] Unknown:

But but the whole thing is is do you think just because your system's clean that you are somehow now do you have a force field around you and you're somehow now?   You're not subject to all? And here's where I have a problem with the fucking terrain theory people. They pretend like we don't live here. Like like, this whole   world around us isn't constantly having an interaction   with your body. Just you touching something. Your your skin is the biggest,   most porous organ   in your whole body.   Everything you touch, you make a transaction with, Every piece of DNA you touch. And so the thing is is   the cleaner your system is,   actually   the the more irritable it is. And I like to put this as nobody notices   when you take a shit in a septic in a in a sewage pool, but everybody notices as soon as it happens in the swim, sewage pool, but everybody notices as soon as it happens in the swimming pool. Great metaphor.  

Yeah. You know?   So their systems are so highly toxified that they you're still gonna take in things that your system don't jive with that need to go out because you're breathing,   you walk by whatever,   and and that's always been life. Always. We pretend like this world has always been like that. Like, people haven't always had different allergies and things like that. Like, if you're not from an area and you move to a new area, you've never experienced the DNA of that area. And people get sick because their body hasn't incorporated that shit yet. It hasn't figured out how to operate with it. Where do I stand with this?   And,   you know,   it it's just the way the world works. And so we're always gonna have   we're never gonna have this   thing that they're claiming where you're never sick. You always feel good. Blah blah blah. I mix I eat   extraordinarily healthy. Everything basically in my house is made from scratch. It's all small and local,   blah, blah, blah.  

And it do I get sick? You damn straight.  

[01:34:43] Unknown:

I get sick. Do you experience symptoms   all the time?  

[01:34:48] Unknown:

Not all the time. Sometimes I'm What are symptoms? That's just living.  

[01:34:53] Unknown:

Yeah. Symptoms are living. Experiencing symptoms of living. You're alive.   You're processing. Are things working   as effectively as they could be? I think that's what we're pushing up against and not really realizing is, like, this this idea of   constant   optimization.   It's like, are you running   good enough?   Yes. Are you going to see a huge difference if there's a 1% increase?   Will the cult and the group think would like you to stay on that improvement   treadmill,   so you have to keep going back to that   group for the affirmations,   and they were in this together thing.  



[01:35:39] Unknown:

And it's like into little sister complex   that you started this out with where   little sister needs somebody to hide under. She's not standing on her own credentials and her own ideals.   She needs somebody to hide under to present her ideals for her.   No. It's not me. But, but that no. That's where I'm not saying that's you. I'm saying that's where you started the conversation. Alright. Because we're weaving spiders in the weave all back to where the conversation started.  

[01:36:08] Unknown:

And I'm sure I I protest too much because it's exactly right,   Alan,   that you you do you know, that's what that's what happens. Like, you you end up kinda gravitating in a certain group, and there's this promise   of this, like, optimum thing that's gonna happen and the cure all, and it's just like castor oil, and it's just coffee enemas, and it's just drinking your pee, and it's just It'll it'll happen to you. It happened to me. Just just keep following  

[01:36:33] Unknown:

the protocol. Just stick with the plan,   in quotes, trust the plan. Yes. Trust the experts. Yes. Follow the science.   All of these things, and it's really it's double minded. It's like you experience   something,   and then there's this other opposite thought in your mind and you're trying to reconcile it, but then because of the the peer pressures   of certain groups.   But here's where it gets kind of frustrating because   you go online for research, you go Twitter or Reddit or Facebook,   and then you're beginning   research and you start asking open ended innocent questions.  

And then when people step in, people in, quote, sock puppet accounts, who are these people? I don't know who they are, but they're all brigading   a specific route that they're funneling you into. So it's this positive   feedback that you're getting, and then you're stopping and thinking, well,   what? Where did this come from? This is not natural. This is not organic.   This is not trusting my gut. This is the nudging   of an algorithm. And how do these people even get put into this lane   to then write their graffiti on the wall that I'm reading at this moment?   How did that happen?  

I don't trust that.   That's not natural. That's not organic.   And that's   what the   I hate the word technocrats.   That's what the owners of these   social networks   have been building   over time. Well, first of all, it's advertising, but also it's   information gathering. But now   that's what has changed, and we're seeing that in real time. Even on YouTube videos, you you put your heart and soul into a YouTube video and you publish it,   and then you go back to it a few years later, and then people are having conversations on it that aren't even about the video. But it's like, how did they get here, and why did they take over   the conversation?  

So on a meta level, Facebook, Instagram, or an actual meta level conversation   that we're talking about   this sort of approval   mechanism   for social media. We're wanting a feedback loop, and we're getting it in the worst possible way   that's affirming   maybe not the best possible thing. And now   in our heart of hearts, we're having to face that and say, well, I already had other plans in mind,   but now there's a group think is leading me in this other   other   direction. Yep. What do I do? Do I   stand independent, or do I just zip my lip and   forget it and   not pushing to say, hey. Well, know this idea I have. I'm gonna keep going with it. But all the feedback you get is   not even in that direct they're not supporting it. They're pushing against it. They're trying to push you into a different tangential   thing,   and you don't wanna go there.  



[01:39:39] Unknown:

Yeah.   Yep. It's true. I know I'm I'm in that rock and a hard place fairly often because I've got the people warring around me   in their various positions.   And,   you know,   sometimes totally going after them. Like, right now that's happening to you know, you guys know Alfonso Faggiolo?   So the one of this this other guy that I I think I was the connection, how he ended up   getting into all of these   circles, so to speak. Although he's never in those circles, he's just more like commentator on it. And he vehemently disagrees with some foundational   concepts on the law and economics.  

Like, you know, he's he's the one that says   it's it's, like doomsday porn   that the economy is collapsing.   You know? I don't barely have a single friend that agrees with him,   but everything I've seen makes more sense what he's talking about.  

[01:40:35] Unknown:

And like interested what what what he's saying.   I don't see how   I I don't see how he's correct in any way, shape, or form, but I'd be curious what he's Economy.   Like  

[01:40:49] Unknown:

What was that? Yeah. Whose whose economy is collapsing?  

[01:40:53] Unknown:

Yeah. Like the dollar, for example. That's, you know, that's the big story that's been for,   many years, pre pandemic and, you know, got us all thinking about gold and silver and all these, you know, crypto scams and stuff like that. And,   so, you know, I can I can send you some   some videos that he's done? And I was actually thinking of having him on again to talk specifically. Okay? Like, what do you think now?   Because I think  

[01:41:20] Unknown:

I mean, the the gold thing, when the dollar left the gold standard, that's not that's not even a conspiracy. That's   that's just people being dumb. They don't have a basic understanding how things work. And once you took so when it left the gold standard,   what happened was is they basically invented the petrodollar.   And now instead of the gold being because, you know, no matter what the conspiracy world says, the petrodollar  

[01:41:46] Unknown:

is what the dollar is is value is based off of. Right. No. He's listed about that. This is this is, like, the promotion of gold and silver as the the remedy to the economic collapse.   Right? So that's and you notice everybody who really harps on that is selling the gold and the silver. Right. Right? They're they're I I wouldn't disagree that it's a good investment, but I would say land is your only real investment. But gold,  

[01:42:13] Unknown:

in all reality, you can take,   a house that you bought for, you know, 60 years ago for a pound of gold you could buy today for a pound of gold. It it it's a very stable, you know, what we would normally consider blue chip investment. But,   unless you have some overwhelmingly   amount of money that you need to set aside, I don't know why you'd even be interested in that kind of thing.  

[01:42:38] Unknown:

And in a total collapse, I always think about that. Like, see, they're they're claiming the the total collapse is coming. Although the, yeah, Russian ruble apparently has fallen. I don't know the implications of of what's going on with that. But,  

[01:42:50] Unknown:

the, you know That sounds like some propaganda. The last I looked, the ruble had actually gained quite a bit of power. Oh, yeah? You guys wanna fetch it? Since since we, because there's this is part of why   the dollars have is so unstable right now   because Russia is an energy giant,   And Russia was supplying basically all of fucking Europe their energy. They only supply 3% of fuel to us. But to Europe, Europe doesn't have near the energy that it's that it needs. And Russia's an energy giant.   This is part of why we bombed,   that pipeline because that pipeline was supposed to feed Europe because Europe's starving for energy. And so that we're try we've been bombing the fixes.  

Well, then   also we put out a moratorium   on trading with Russia   and because we're in this proxy war with Russia. The problem being other countries quit giving a fuck   what we say. And so they're still trading with Russia. And they're not only just trading with Russia, they're vigorously   trading   with Russia. And   to the point where Saudi Arabia,   who is the one that actually   gave the petrodollar   its power because   we went in and and forced a treaty. This is part of why we let Saudi Arabia get away with everything.   Is because we had a treaty with Saudi Arabia that they would only trade in the petrodollar.  

Thus, giving the petrodollar, it's almost, you know,   you know, empirical power   at that point.   Mhmm. And so with now we're at the point where Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates is saying,   yeah. Well, you know, we'll take money's money. Yeah. You know? The the the petrodollar don't have   the the fucking,   you know,   monopoly   that it used to have. So this destabilizes   our dollar in general because our dollar was based on the petrodollar. So I'd really like to know   what fucking economic fucking standards he's talking about that show that this deep stabilization   isn't happening,   especially when we aren't backed by gold anymore. We're backed by something that just got the rug pulled out from under  

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Yeah. I know. All my friends will say the same thing, and, it is highly controversial.   You know,   I I've been satisfied enough just showing   things that,   unfortunately, is not my world. So when I go in and if I was to try to research it myself, I probably couldn't make sense of it. But, like, some of the Let me ask you this. Mhmm.  

[01:45:33] Unknown:

You and I are are are fairly equal in age.   In a 20 year span,   which is very small,   what does the power of the dollar do in   2,000 as compared today?  

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Right. We're all experiencing what we think to be hyperinflation.   Now by definition,   it's not   exactly true. That's why I'm I'm looking for an update because as of How is that not true?  

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It's not true Foundation was that I could buy 4 years ago Mhmm. Are literally twice as many dollars   as they are   as they were 4 years ago. Smaller packages. And the packages are smaller, and the money that anybody's receiving is not more. People that were making $20 an hour aren't making 40, but everything   4 years ago was half the price. I get it. How is that not hyperlink? I know. I go to the grocery store. It's like like This is this is where my problem comes in with these fucking people. But this is saying   anything. The empirical evidence.  



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Here here's what I think happened   is that that became a part of the narrative. They knew there's a certain amount of us that are not gonna fall for a boogeyman virus, but we are gonna fall for an economic collapse.   And what does that it basically  

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Economic collapse is happening.   Well We're living through it. And we might We're empirically   seeing the proof.  

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Okay. But just listen to one thing, and then you can go to the source and and study for yourself or see for yourself or if you have any interest or whatsoever. But here's the thing. That I'm curious.   Yeah. By by all appearances, we are in hyperinflation period.   But in reality, we we're in a deflationary period when you actually look at the numbers. Yes. Now what has happened? Stop to resist a second. Stop. Let me finish. One more thing. This is one of the dumbest things I've heard, like, in a month.  

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Like, it's completely against empirical evidence that all of us are experiencing.  

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K. I'll just try one more time to finish.   I'm gonna try one more time. And then if you don't like it, it's fine. I'll I'll I'll drop it. I'm not even arguing for it, but I've seen the fucking graphs. I've seen the graphs.   So so   in that reality, in the financial reality,   hyperinflation is not happening. We're in a deflationary period. But,   everything is skyrocketing   in in,   price   because taking advantage   of our belief in an economic collapse.   Right? So every every single,   chink in the chain is taking advantage of this that we're all saying, yes. We're in a   inflationary period is not fucking true.  

It's being  

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Okay. Does he make into account that literally more fucking money was printed in 2020,   just 4 fucking years ago than in the rest of the history of the United States. What does that do to money? When you fucking print money that you don't have more goods to back,   what does that do to the value of said money?  

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There's a lot of psyops in the economics.   A lot of fucking psyops.  

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Some books are never audited. Standoff. That's basic economics.  

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Like, I swear to God. The money thing. Like, that's not accurate.   We say that all the time. That's in our narrative.   That's one possibility to to just open up to  

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circulation   because poor people keep money in cash.   Rich people keep money in investments.   When the government handed out   every month checks,   poor people went and cashed   those checks.   That's what was going on.   So there was more money in circulation because a bunch of poor people suddenly got a $1,000 check. And let me tell you what, when you're fucking poor, a $1,000 check, hot fucking damn, I'm running right down to the fucking check cashing place. Check cash in place is gonna get rich that goddamn week because them fuckers can't even wait the fucking 3 days to fucking get that thing to turn into cash.  

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And our government turned around. We called that fucking cash. So every poor person that took them up on it had to pay it back. They had to pay it back?  

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Evil. They they took a bribe, and the bribe was attached to a string, and I reeled it in. They took it away from you. Exactly.  

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Here, they couldn't take that back because that was that was a free check. But what they did to a lot of small businesses was they gave out a forgivable   loan   in order to get them through on the COVID thing. And all these dumb fuckers went, forgivable loan. Yeah. Free money. Forgive a bull, not forgiven.   Oh.   And so at the end of it, all of a sudden, most of them weren't forgiven. They were forgivable.  

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There you  

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go. With strings attached. Wow.  

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Mhmm. Yeah. We have a we have a number of friends that took the government up on that offer, and they're suffering now because   at forgivable   money was not forgiven.  

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Yeah. Yeah.   Now they're just raping the people. That's all that's happening.   Funny way to justify it, and and it's convenient that we all think it's happening, so we cooperate with it.  

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It's it's a definite pain point   to talk about money   with anyone.   And there there are other there are other cultures that will pool money together   to help purchase a vehicle. If someone needs a vehicle,   the community pool the money together,   and then you privately pay it back   to them without having to go and and get a loan with a huge interest rate on it. These types of things. And   the theme of   having   personal finance   in an atomized way where my finance   is separate from other family members and other friends. I don't show them my tax returns. You know, that's private information. We don't talk about that.   But that's also the weapon to say, well, now   if I have to have my own car, I have to have my own insurance, I have to pay my own ISP bill, it's like the money isn't going very   far because it's just being bled out.  

We were talking earlier about how do we stand our ground   without making concessions,   but then also   attracting people to stick   together,   to work in our own favor   while recognizing   some people like cheese, some people don't like cheese, some people like pineapple on pizza, some people don't some people won't even eat pizza,   but we're all trying to set   our table together   and have a meal together   so we can talk about things   that matter. And that's my idea of just   having to sit and listen and just exercising the ability to   put words out on the table   and then be able to lay things out and arrange them and say, okay. Now I think I figured it out when I'm trying to communicate. And what I thought it was wasn't really the thing.  

It was just I feel insecure   financially because, you know, as a man,   if you don't have a job, if you're not winning bread, then what's your value? And there's so many men who are   in this category of   not in employment,   education, or training,   n e e t.   NEET. They call themselves NEET,   and that's also adjacent to the involuntary   sell that well, don't have a job, don't have a car, don't have a house, don't have a property,   so therefore,   not attracting a wife, therefore,   involuntarily   not having   sexual relations with a woman for the purpose of procreation to raise a family.  

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That puts I love the way you just said that involuntarily.   Not kidding.  

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Right.   Right. So it's like, is it is it the system that's preventing me from having a family, or is it just me   looking at economic forecast and saying, well, it's just not gonna make sense financially   for me to be buying diapers at this point for a child I don't even have   with a woman who might not even be fertile because I haven't even talked about, you know,   fax machine status. And if they've got certain information in their body that maybe I don't wanna exchange with them. So   all these things   are very, very complicated   and frustrating. And just to acknowledge that, I think, is just   to let off a huge burden that really isn't even on our shoulders   to bear. We are   just trying to navigate   minute to minute, hour to hour to get to the end of the day, to have a bed to sleep in, and then to wake up and feeling refreshed   and renewed   to take on   folding my laundry and and putting my dishes away. You know, these sort of basic things. So then all these   these,   hype men   who are super into fitness and self improvement   are just way over there. It's like, well, they're always in the gym. They're always getting their proteins. They're always maximizing   every single thing.  

But then it's like, well, let's just talk about   do you have clean socks to wear? Have you eaten today?   Is that okay? Are you like, what is going on with you? So we jump to the end of the thing,   but then if we're not supporting each other on just the mundane basic things, talking about a garden, and it's like, okay. So you wanna have food. We're talking about a garden. And then Jim and Balderson bring up the idea as well. You know, electric fences.   It's like, well, do you have jars, and do you have a place for   the harvest? So having to come at it from the reverse angle to say, okay, so now in my mind, I imagine it's October now. I have all these extra cucumbers.  

Am I gonna make pickles? Or do I even like pickles?   I don't like pickles, so why am I planting cucumbers, planning to make pickles? You   see see how this is the the struggle we're at? It's like, well,   I can make pickles, but I don't care about pickles. So why am I in the pickle business?  

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I made the best pickle juice. I don't really like the pickles that I've made. Speed like, you're reading my mind, Marcus.   Which is your name, by the way? Alan or Marcus? Both. Both. Thank you. Good. Either one. I'm free now. Yeah. So I made all these pickles and then I don't like them, but it turns out the juice is fantastic.   Pickle juice. I could just, like, drink that. It's it's like a a gourmet ingredient   now. And hello, SB. So nice to see you.  

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What's up, y'all?   What's up?  

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Pickle tearing. Pickle tearing.  

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Exciting water park all day. So,  

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wow. Are your fingers like prunes?  

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Absorbed all the I didn't get in the water too much. You know, I used to be very,   aggressively excited to ride big water slides and do stuff, but mostly I just hung out in the little lazy river spot, and I went down one big slide   and laid around and, you know, make sure the   kid was having fun that we were with. And   so, but it's a it's quite the insane thing to go to a big water park, you know, like they don't let you bring in any outside food or drink,   you know? And, this is a hustle.  

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How do you justify taking a day off in this economy   with the war going on?   How dare you enjoy yourself?  

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You have to not believe anything on earth. It's a first it's a pre prerequisite to to exist comfortably in any way is to stop believing anything that you've heard from anyone anywhere at any time   and kind of tune back into   at least 5 senses. You know, you might wanna tune in and see if you have more than 5. Most people do. You people do.   You know? And then Yeah. Start there. Get used to that idea of, like, oh, you know, maybe it's not likely you're gonna get rid of all the extracurricular   information that's coming at your head. That's almost impossible.   But you can just remind yourself, like, is that true? Is that does that seem true?  

You know, that I kept reminding people that during the, big 2020 fiasco, it's like,   in my experience, anytime things are really going poorly, the men in the nearby vicinity, even if they don't like each other, get together in small groups and they start to have a little powwow and talk about what to do next.   And I didn't see any of that behavior. So I thought, well, my regular old trusty   standard, hey, shit. It's it's like it's getting bad. You know? Like, if you got just little wannabe gangsters running around tagging up the neighborhood with spray paint,   at some point, people decide to have a powwow and take action. That's even if they're not dealing drugs or guns   or having gun fights or any of that stuff. Just regular kind of vandalistic BS behavior.  

Usually, somebody   either develops a plan or a group of people do or somebody develops a plan and a group of people develop a plan to   interfere with that plan. You know? I'm gonna catch them and beat them. So then the other men get together and be like, bro, you can't do that. Let's do something different than that. You know? But I didn't see any of that stuff. So I thought, well, this doesn't this seems very   jean and  

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very not real, you know. We're beginning to form a plan to take all the microwaves out of people's homes and smash them up as a source of all evil,  

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like a crusade against microwaves. You could probably start a cult around that pretty easily.   My I mean, did you make the first few microwaves? Like, if you if we made a plan as this group here to get together somewhere   and bum rush into somebody else that's definitely streaming online sometimes house and get their microwave and take it immediately outside on a live stream and break it up, that would be   huge marketing for our cause. Other people would follow suit. We might even be able to get a hold of the police and stage an arrest, and we would be in, like, for him. You know? Nice. I love it.  

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The MI dehydrate takes the place of my microwave for many years already.  

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Yeah. I've been using Probably. My,   little they called it a air fryer, but really it's just marketing because air fryer is so popular. It's really just a   a large  

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convection toaster oven. Exactly. I I bought 1 and I  

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bought 1 and took it back right away after I researched it because,   it's not fat friendly.   The less fat you have in there, the better it works.   Oh, right. I'm all about the fat.  

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Yeah. That's where the minerals transfer.   Yeah. For sure. That's the good shit. Anyways, I like that.  

[02:00:18] Unknown:

What? You can't even put cheese in there.  

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Yeah.   Yeah.  

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Well, that's the whole pitch is that you use way less fat and it's still fried as if you were deep frying it. You know? That's the  

[02:00:31] Unknown:

I know, but we eat the fat. Like, that's that's the big psyop of taking the fat out of everything.  

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Yeah.  

[02:00:37] Unknown:

Well, it's super weird. Made everything   it made everything nutrient deficient   is, you know, and now you can't take in the nutrients that are there. And it's honestly it's super weird because even medically, they do that, like, where they remove your intestines   for all these fat people. And also it does is that your intestines is your stomach breaks the food down or, you know, the things in your stomach. Your stomach biome breaks it down.   The nutrient absorption comes from your intestines.   So now you just aren't taking in the proper nutrition anymore, and now you just keep stuff in your face with more because your body's telling you, hey, I need this nutrition.   And you keep stuffing it with nutrient and dead food instead of fixing the original problem. It's super fucking weird the way we do this.  



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I know. How do people even stay alive? We're going through Costco today, and there's, like, I don't know, 10,000   items in there that would kill me if I had them more than just a teeny little bit.   And, and but people have got the biggest   carts full, and they're just trucking out the 7 kinds of chips and 29.  

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No. Human body is the most phenomenal filter that's that anyone's ever seen.  

[02:01:47] Unknown:

I don't get it. Like, I I we already sorta had this talk, but it it's it's really wow to me, which is wow. I just I don't fit in here at all.  

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Yeah. You're here. Mhmm. Yeah. I don't I don't once in a blue moon, we'll go to Walmart and buy a grip of toilet paper or something like that, but there's nothing else to even buy in there.  

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I know. Know. How many I  

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only really shop in the produce section of any grocery store. I love Winco because they've got really low prices and pretty damn high quality produce.   You know, there are a few other things I buy here and there.  

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You know? But it also comes with just you walk in their Winco and everything has a flavor of misery,   including the store in and of itself. You're like, why is this so miserable?   Like, it's just horrible. I, you know, I don't know what the deal is with Winco. Walmart is the most No. I know. Winco a real place. Over here, the win there's Winco's there's there's some nice Winco's in this valley.  

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So, like, I get comfortable here. What's a Winco?   Well, a Winco is like a huge grocery store where you have to bag your own groceries when you leave that in store. Owned. Yes. It is employee owned. Owned. It's like in Washington,  

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California. The WinCo   spells out the states that it's in. It's only in a couple states. Is it like a Cub Foods for those who are in Minnesota area? Probably.  

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I don't know. Cub, I've never heard of Cub. So but been with It's a little trashier in Cub, but same idea. Okay.   But, yeah. So when I go out of town and I, yeah, it looks like the same thing to me, Marcus. Right. Just like this huge industrial   kinda similar to a Walmart only mostly just focused only on food stuffs.   You know, another clue that it's not food that they call it stuff.   But   when I go out of town somewhere, you know, I'll still go to WinCo because I do like their prices, and I'm happy with the quality of their produce. A lot of the time, I can actually find   a mostly ripe pineapple there, which is impossible. Like, to get ripe pineapple is impossible.  

So,   but, you know, like, we were in   Twin Falls, Idaho,   and it was like, jeez, here I am at the WinCo. I'm imagining it's the one up the street from my house, which is reasonably clean and not full of any drug addicts or psychotic people. And I'm kind of regretting that I'm not carrying a pistol here at this WinCo because the vibe is like, oh shit, what the fuck? You know, like weird.  

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And No, I'm sure we're super bad.  

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No, I'm sure where Ben is. Like,   you're not you'd be ill and they're open 24 hours. So, you know, if you wanna do test yourself, just go to the Reading WinCo at 3 AM and see how you do, you know. But I would recommend bringing a pistol and maybe a knife too just in case they're up close when they attack. Okay. So,  

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Washington, Idaho,   Nevada, California,   Oregon, Winco. Yeah. Okay.  

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I think I knew that once and I forgot.   Oh. But, yeah, it's I mean and then if you go to the places that are really nice,   nice, those are my air quotes. Car vests   on the ground. Well, you know, well, go to a Trader Joe's or to a local co op. I mean, then, okay, so the quality and the atmosphere   is okay. It's pretty good,   but it's got all of the liberal politics there whether you want them or not. And the price is literally through the roof. The same identical strawberries I get at Winco, sometimes for a dollar 98 for, like, you know, the big thing of them,   are $8   at the co op. I know. Including my 10% discount for being a member. So it's just psycho. It's crazy. And the first time I went to Trader Joe's, I was so mad. Like, I'm like, cool apples, you know, and it says   89¢. And I'm thinking that's a pretty low price per pound. And you look and it's per each. Like, per each? Per apple. A buck per apple? Yeah.  

Like, I'm a break your stuff in here.   Let's just turn this one upside down. You ever heard to turn it over to Apple cart? Have you ever seen it? Don't want to see it, but  

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but and I wouldn't buy things like that. You you've just gotta be   a a diligent shopper. When I go to the app, I shop I literally hit 5 different store just store for grocery type things, not including the feed store and stuff like that. And I can tell you what's at each Sarah g can vouch for all this. I can tell you what's exactly at each store because I'm a very specific shopper, and I shop for specific things.   You know, you just gotta be like that. I have to call  

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discount shop all the time. Always discounts. I buy all the discounts, and I just what you said, you know, I know what I can get at a discount at this place, that place, or the other place. That's why I love WinCo because really I do mostly only buy produce.   So I'm pretty good. If I just need to shop, I'll just go there and buy a whole bunch of fruit and vegetables   and maybe some stuff out of the bulk section like some peanut butter and some honey or some nuts or something, and I'm good. You know? But if I the other things that we do keep, freezer foods and stuff,   price isn't bad. I don't really like buying western family stuff. I just don't trust it. You know? It's so low.  

If their price is that low and it's that high volume that they're making it   I mean, I know they're just supposedly flash freezing it, but I'm not 100% sure what they're doing with that broccoli.   I can't I don't think they'll let us into the western family broccoli assembly line, for packaging and let us just, you know can we take a look? What's   what's it look like in here? Who's putting the stuff in there? You know?   What's the process?   I guarantee I'd probably feel better if they would. They don't eat that broccoli. Guarantee. Exactly. Most people that work in any of those industries, they tell you we don't touch that shit. We don't put that in our body. You know? Because after you've knocked the roaches out of it for everybody else, you don't want any.  

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I was gonna say about going to so many different stores. It's insane. Like, I I literally will go across the city for one item because I bought that one thing that I   need and can't make use of anything else they have. And you know how they always ask you, did you find everything you need? Uh-huh. Yeah. Right? I and they're like, no.   No.  

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No. You didn't. No. And I do know that I can start with a different focus today. Where we'd be honest   in it. All the upsells, we could be honest. Like, no. Yeah. There's no way I could find what I need at your store. That's impossible, actually.   Yeah. I want actually ripe fruit. I wanna buy ripe fruit. Came in the store looking for love and approval  

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and get it. So I guess, Dash Gear, it's up to you   to tell me how much you love me right now and   how much you honor and accept my my purchases,   my pickle tearing, and my stinky fish.  

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Jim, that shirt's awesome, by the way. I don't know what's up with that, but it's terrific. Yeah. I'm loving it too. Oh, thank you. It looks really good to come on. I'm breaking the 10th commandment right now looking at your shirt. I'm coveting it.  

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You're my favorite one. It's it's got, like, half of the buttons that it should have, but I don't need them. Yeah.  

[02:08:52] Unknown:

That's how you know a shirt's getting good when it starts letting go of those buttons. That's it's ripening up. You know, the shirt's getting.  

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Definitely.  

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Yeah. I go I go to 4 different cities because there's 2 stores in Eureka I'll go to, and then I go down to Fortuna to a different store, and then Redway.   And then there's actually 2 different stores in Garberville I'll go to.   So it just depends on what I want. And, like, Fortuna's got Safeway,   and Safeway's got Boar's Head Cheese, which is fantastic.   So I'll stop there and get, like, a brick of Boar's Head Cheese because when I stop at stores, like, we don't plan on coming back for a grip. So we just buy, like, the whole damn brick.   And, you know, shit like that. But, say, Fortuna's got Safeway, but Eureka's got the farmer's market,   which is all like locally grown shit. And I'll pay the extra for that.  

And then,   right, there's another farmer's market type one here in Garberville that I stop at. They've got a better spaghetti sauce that's like a really,   local,   homemade spaghetti sauce. It's fantastic. And a few other odds and ends that I get there. I used to go to another store in Eureka because   they had the a local meat,   That was the best meat that that Wagyu that Christy eats. But now I'm getting that from, another place,   down south that mails it to me.  

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There you go. Yeah. Our local cheese,   factory burned down. They're really good.  

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Yeah. That's the first one of the first testimonies I've heard of somebody talking about this strange stuff happening with food   being attacked where it's actually someone I could reference and say, okay. I believe that that cheese factory really burned down. You know? There was so much publicity and press about food   industry stuff being attacked. And it's not that I don't believe it, but whenever they   really escalate stuff like that, it makes me   makes you wanna stay in the middle, neutral. Like, I'm not positive. I'm not there where it's happening. So I don't know for sure   that every single attack is is true, you know?  

But I I do think they're attacking food supply at all times. You know?   How and and in what regard is is a question. I've always wanted to start a co op where we do things like what Ben was just talking about. So   that if we   built up a group of people that were consistently doing the same thing that we're actually, we're all talking about, you know, going to the special places to get our stuff,   you know, if we made it more accommodating to people who definitely couldn't get out of the house and we made it so it was a focus that some people were gonna go,   then eventually it would develop into a thing where Ben could trust the delivery   to come to his house for them to bring what he wants, and he could skip his trips to the store if he needs to because he's part of the thing where they're saying, hey. It's gonna line up this scheduling this month. Looks like we're hitting all your spots. Do you want us to bring you your stuff? It's gonna cost you an extra $100, but instead of you coming down the mountain, we'll bring it all to you in good shape. You know, I've always imagined you know, get the discount on all the produce ourselves and not have a storefront necessarily. Maybe have a storefront if you could develop into that, but manage it that way so that we have a group   of people   that are like, hey. We're gonna do this. We're gonna have the focus be to take care of people that really either they can't afford it or they can't go shop. You know, single moms,   old grandmas in the home, disabled people. You know, make them the focus that we're gonna help them out, but the benefit is to everybody. But it would be so much infrastructure   to it's gonna become a maintenance issue. You know? People would love to do it, but when it becomes a problem,   people have a really hard time keeping up the maintenance end. You know, we'd have to have some kind of organizational process that allows people to disagree  

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and solve problems, and it becomes hard then, you know. Well, the big problem is is how much we're dependent on that. And this is goes back to what we were talking about with the finances earlier. Without  

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that, you  

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if you're in a wooded area, you get a wood burning stove. And the wood burning stove is providing us with cooking. It's providing us with hot water. It's providing us with warmth for the house. In areas where they don't have fucking wood, they would burn their animal manure and things like that. That's very common.   You know, we were very independent. We would take care of our own food. Like, if you went to the store back in the day, you went for exotic things like spices or sugar or things that you couldn't provide for at home, even people that were disabled and had a rougher life. Now what that   means is is now you're not owing a bunch of money and needing this giant income.  

And once you start understanding that it's basic necessities are the thing,   and then everything else after that becomes a luxury. Now the financial system doesn't have a grip on you anymore. And that it will always have a grip on you when you think   understand that having a roof over your head,   good   food, and a decent bed,   then you win. You don't need the money. You have the money was always supposed to take care of those things.  

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Alright. Well, the farmers that I've known in the Walla Walla Valley, the old families that I've talked to, they don't spend money on anything.   Yeah. The old farmer will will literally   if he could, he'd refine his own gasoline to drive his truck 30 miles across his own property to go weld up something that's a 100 years old with, you know, even even if it means 3 days and 2 trips  

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before he's gonna touch his money. He's not even gonna look at pile of money for any reason at all. My my nest two projects are a biodiesel plant because every engine on my property at this point is is diesel.   And so a biodiesel plant because I've got plant material up the wazoo around here,   and I can just turn that into diesel fuel. And then the other thing, my my septic system's starting to go out. So rather than replace a septic system, I'm changing to a biogas system where I can even take some of the pig shit or cow shit and throw it in there. That produces methane gas, which is the cleanest burning gas because methane's got the the fewest amount of carbons, and that's what's be being released. All hydrocarbon gases are have 2 things, hydrogen and carbon. Hydrogen goes boom boom. Carbon goes off into the air. So the one that has the fewest carbons is the cleanest burning. Fucking pretty simple shit. And you can just hook that right up to your fucking water heater in your stove, same nozzles that you have for a for a natural gas, and your poop just goes out into a big old bag that fucking turns on that. Don't need to pay a propane man to come in anymore for during the summer. It's all about that. And as soon as you could start doing things like that, you don't need the monies.   Fuck the monies.  



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Or then when you do have money coming in, you can stack it up, and then you can start to get innovative about what you do wanna do with money. And then you you can find out that things I am. So you don't wanna talk about even what you're gonna do with your money. It's nobody's business what you're gonna do. About it. Buy more land. Buy more land. I   like the idea of Balderson having more land. I think a 100,000,000 acres would be a good start. Imagine all the pickleball courts you could put in with all that land.  

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I know we picked on pickleball   previously.   Go pickleball on Bayhoo Farms. But now I wanna get into the topic of covering our corn holes here with,  

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a little bit of a problem. If you're trying to play pickleball. Yeah. Sure. I saw  

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a lighted corn hole. Recently, I saw a lighted cornhole. It had it had a ring of LEDs around it. I never thought about putting a light around my cornhole until I saw that.  

[02:16:57] Unknown:

Was it a bonus cornhole?  

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Professional cornhole leagues?  

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Yeah.  

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Can you believe this stuff?  

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Of course. And it For sure. That was being bad. You're huge. Have sports gone too far or not far enough? Well, this is how you know there's no real terrorists. You know? These things never get any bombs or mortars or not even any open they never even open fire at these events. You know? So  

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But the whole thing is is a lot of these events like you like that one that you see people   posting videos about with the girls that are pretending like they're riding a horse and it's like a wooden horse.   Hobby horse competitions.   Yeah.   Whenever you look at those though, look at the crowd behind them. And I'm sure the same thing applies for this. There's like 12 fucking drunk ladies that are all batshit crazy, fucking cheering their kids on. Like,   you know, like   this has always been the case is is media   puts a focus   on crazy shit. They do. Nonsense. Yeah.  

You know? Like that I'm sure nothing's gonna hold you on that.  

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What do you I was gonna jump in with the question. What do you guys think about prepping?  

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I I hit a point this this this winter, and I and I literally my brain just went fuck prepping. I'm meeting my prex. Like wearing sweaters and cat pee pants. For that maintenance issue. Trusting like you broke your arm already. That's what we're paying. You have to rotate it. You have to use everything you're gonna prep all the time, rotate it, and be ready to deal with it unless it's cans that you can keep for a long time or it's freeze dried. And so we do have some freeze dried stuff that's, you know, just sitting there just in case, but   I can't imagine,   being as efficient as the Mormons are with prepping.  



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You know? And and they're  

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So where where where it gets weird is is a, preppers   think that they're gonna, like, survive very long with a closet full of fucking Dasani bottles.   And, you know, and and people don't understand the the sheer,   quantity of food they consume.   And then the sheer amount of water that they consume. Now because I pull pump my water up into a reservoir,   I'm keenly aware no. Not anymore because now I just but I'm keenly aware of how often I have to pump that fucking reservoir, so how many gallons I'm going through. And during the summer, we're going through 25 100 gallons of water a week. And I don't know where the fuck you're fitting that in your Dasani bottles in the closet or whatever the fuck. You know? But it it ain't helping you out very well. You're gonna be one dehydrated   stinky sound bitch. You know, with a bunch of dead animals and no plants. That's a fact. So Yeah. Prepping   prepping is garbage.  

Again, you go back to what I was just talking about where you start becoming self sufficient, which isn't prepping. That's being self sufficient.   You're not prepping for the system to collapse.   You're removing yourself   from   said system. So it doesn't even really matter to you. And at any given time, you can do whatever in the system. You can trade your goods, whatever.   But you're doing everything you can to quit being reliant   on the said system, which   the problem where the problem really came in was the nineties.   When in the nineties hit, we as a country got too old.  

Then Bill Clinton opened up the borders and allowed our businesses to be exported.   Now   in higher finance,   there's an every country's given an age.   Countries that are under 30   are givers.   Countries that are 30 to 40 are middle are right in the middle that they have skills,   they're still able to do work,   but they're not as giving.   After 40,   you're takers,   and that's the way it's viewed economically. You're no longer producing   much. You're taking your wisdom garner   garnered   and overseeing the younger men that are producing.   So at some point in time,   and this happened in the nineties, the general age of our country moved   into that non producing   age, and we became takers.  

And then Bill Clinton opened up the fucking floodgates and said, go ahead and take your businesses to whatever country,   and we could just fucking trade from there. So all the businesses got set, and the whole reason that they went to these   primarily Asian countries   was because of the age of those Asian countries, where the average age of the people is 19,   20 as opposed to the average age of American, which is starting to push 50. And we're all fucking takers now. Well, they closed shop here,   which then allowed them to   slip under all the promises they made the young men, because then promises are all time to pay them out.  

And they moved shop and moved it over to another country where it's not the same business anymore, and reopened the doors and made young men in those countries the promises that they made us 50 years ago.   And that's why we're having an economic collapse. This is all because   the true high economics,   especially post NAFTA,   is a world economic thing. It's no longer a country economic thing. None of these larger corporations have any,   loyalty to any country in any way, shape, or form. It's based on that formula that I was just talking about that these people will give a lot for a little or these people will take a lot and give a little. And we're at the take a lot, give a little age in our country.  

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Yep. Well said.   We hit that point where   you didn't have to produce anything of value anymore.   Yeah.   And then, you know, they rode high on it, and they, like, I know my parents lived high on the hog   until the, you know, the bubble burst in the nineties for them, and then things had they had to get a lot more sober about their lifestyle,   but still   clinging to   that ideal. And, although they they did actually produce a lot of value, they worked their asses off. They're really, you know, super   productive and accomplished and and not just sitting around. But, but, yeah, living living off the fat, living living pretty high. That's the problem. They were productive.  

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Now they're not productive. So those companies wanted to be here when they were productive   and and give them, you know, fair wages, but then make them promises for the future while they break themselves for this company. But that company as soon as it's time to to give them money with no production,   they're fucking gone.  

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Yeah. That's why my parents started their own business and and tried to take their destiny into their own hands.   But they just really ended up owning a job rather than having a job.  

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Yeah. Yeah.   That's a fact.   That's a good way of putting that. I like it.  

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Say that again. They're  

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They ended up owning   a job instead of having a job. And and partly, I'll say that because it wasn't the thing that they went like, oh, I'm so passionate and and, you know, for the I have these god given talents and I've I gotta contribute in this way. It was more like, what's the hole in the market that's not being filled that we could fill with something that's, you know so wanting   to fit into that system and then getting and then getting caught in that system. I was caught in that system. Nearly killed me.   And,   I got out of that.  



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Yeah. Exactly.   World Economic Forum.   Rich people gonna make rich people money at all of our expenses, and they quit caring where any of our any of us are from. In 20 years, when the boomer generation's gone, and we have a bunch of young hungry kids,   businesses will come back magically, and laws will start changing around for businesses to be here. And it's only because they don't give a fuck about any of us. They see the world as one thing.  

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Yep.  

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And they pay for the laws   to be made to make it so they can operate that way.   And what your friend is saying about our exports, the problem is   is we're exporting our resources, not exporting production.  

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Exactly.  

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And so our our exports have risen. It's exports of resources. Do you know what happens to 3rd world countries, folks?   They get raped for their resources. Exactly.  

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Yep.   You got it.  

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You export production,   not resources.  

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That's it. That's the Canada's   main, like, sin. We just keep selling the   the foundational   basic   resource so other people can make money on it. Like   and we and we don't wanna do the the work, and we don't wanna do the jobs. And that's why when they're importing all of these people who don't belong here at all,   they're the one picking up all the jobs that no one wants to do.  

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Same here.   Everybody cusses the Mexicans,   but you ain't picking your fucking lettuce.  

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I'm saying I just got delivered,   asparagus at my lady, Camden. I can guarantee you who picked  

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it. I know exactly who picked it. Nice. Nice. That's beautiful. I love asparagus.   I heard it asparagus. I really  

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most of these young people that aren't Mexican couldn't do it if they wanted to.   Go out in the field and change some sprinkler pipe and see how you do.   Ben could do it. I don't think I could do it, but I'd be cussing and be pretty lazy and pissed off by the 3rd day. I don't   I've I've been starting to think of who I could hire to help and do it.   It wasn't it wasn't a it wasn't a sustainable thing to keep doing that every summer. And I don't know how much money you'd have to give Ben to actually do it. It'd be a lot. You'd have to give him a lot.   And even then, I don't know. He'd he'd have to have somebody to trust to stay and watch his animals.  



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When the crop means water, then you gotta get water to it. You're gonna have to pay me a lot just to get me the fuck off my farm.  

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Yeah. Right. Because the money isn't actually of any value in your position because you've developed enough of a process   to not be in bed with it. And that's the main thing really. I mean, back to prepping. I was going to say the idea of prepping. Like you really want to test yourself on whether or not you can be a prepper, start by practicing fasting twice a week.   You know, you don't have to eat the water fast. Just juice fast or just liquid fast. Just start 2 days a week. I'm gonna intake way less food and see how you do. You'll find out where you're at real fast. The plan to prepare to be a contestant  

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on survivor. And how old is the mindset to you anyway?  

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It's like, get yourself on   reality television show, and then you're set for life. Right? People know you because you're famous. You're famous because you're already famous. So, therefore, you just keep   asking for money, and they keep showing up.  

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Well and what are you prepping for? Are you prepping? Because because if you're prepping, there's a specific duration.   What happens at the end of said duration? What another system magically appears that's gonna feed you or something?  

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Like That's the thing, Doug. The mindset is we think something's gonna collapse. Well, it's a bad premise, really.  

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When is the last collapse for a winter's worth of meals.   No. 3 meals a day for Yeah. 4 months   out.  

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Is that what the preparation is? Great depression that everything collapsed, and it was really hard to survive. But I would say back to the thing I said earlier, I mean, do we really know what the great depression was like? I believe it was bad because my great grandmother produced it. And so something happened there, but do we really know   we know for sure we can't trust whatever the you know, we're not gonna look it up on Wikipedia and say, well, this is probably gonna happen again. Here's the real problem with the with the history and those kind of things.  

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Those we gotta understand that that history that we're given came from very small regions. So the areas, the great depression happened, especially   in New York, which is where most meet the most mainstream media of the time came from New York.   And so,   yeah, New York in and of itself went through the great depression.   But what we have is is a very similar thing to, like, the black plague,   where in our minds, the black plague was like this universal thing that covered the entirety of Europe at the very least, and the black plague happened in London.   That's who we had the black plague. Like, it didn't happen in other play all over Europe. It wasn't happening in Sweden. It wasn't happening in Finland,   Just London. Because specifically,   the church in London got rid of cats because they were witches' familiars. And so the city got overran by rats, which were carrying the fleas, which had the bubonic plague. And once the just like with anything else, once it gets out of balance,   something that wouldn't have necessarily made caused illness, all of a sudden becomes a dominant factor and it does cause illness.  

So it's a very regional thing. I,   am fortunate enough. I'm old enough that I knew a whole bunch of people from the great depression from my family, that era.   And in the Midwest, there wasn't that depression. That depression surrounded Wall Street and those people who invested in it. The farmers from the Midwest who were self sustaining   didn't feel the grip of that depression in one bit.  

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Well, that's the thing also that, in a in a a total collapse, only,   something like,   if my numbers are anywhere correct. But there's a you know, like, 70% of the people go down, but 30 don't.   Right? And it started to make me see, well, how do you how do you be that person that doesn't go down   and be more independent of all the things? You know, like, my my economy   so so we're in this, you know, down period, but my economy has done nothing but grown   since the   you know, because why? I've created a lot more value,   a shit ton of value. That's all I know how to do. I I should invest. I should I should this. I should that.  

But all I know how to do is   give of my gifts. Like, that's literally   that's all I'm doing here.   I you know, maybe I'll do better at some point with the be more, you know,   achievement oriented with with money or something like that. But   I you know, to the degree that I can wean myself off of those mainstream systems, I was gonna say how there's a network here in Manitoba that,   basically, because one person decided they created all of these little food threats.   So they connected with the farmers that had more freedom minded beliefs and were willing to go outside this take the risk of going outside the system and, you know, doing things that are, like, not even   I hate to say legal, because they're stupidly illegal, and I don't wanna even name it just to implicate. But,   you know, so it's created this underground network, and it's so beautiful to take part in it. I can have I can have goods just delivered right to my door by the farmer that harvested or did this or that that day.  



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Wonderful.   It's like a wonderful. Right? And and it's just a crop share type system almost.  

[02:32:42] Unknown:

Yeah. I mean, it's just one person who decides talking about making a network. That's exactly what I meant. Not to make a great big, across the whole country network. Everybody develop that same thing you're doing and keep developing it and keeping maintenance of it long enough that even if there's a bump in the road,   we we think we probably still have it covered somehow. You know? Even if this farm goes gets up or this crop doesn't come in. You know? And it only works in small little pods.  

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You couldn't do that on mass. Right? So we've connected with some primary farmers, and they they   give to our network. And but it's not it's not even a club. You don't have to join. It's it's totally organic. And then I don't mean just organic food, but, like, organically   engineered. Grassroots or Yeah. One person is willing to assume responsibility for it and, b, the the consistent go between   and answer to everything that might go, you know, right or wrong or whatever as planned or not planned.   And that keeps the whole thing   going in a in a really beautiful way. So yeah. And it's not the only one. There's there's other   others like that. People are getting a lot more   a lot more those ways of thinking, I'm noticing.  



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Stay out of wires.   Rats most certainly do rats most certainly do carry fleas badly. I live out in the mountains.   They are bad.   And   yeah. What do you mean? The hoard of cats. You get the hoard of rats, and they're gonna eat up your stored food.   Enjoy that. There's a comment from California  

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contrary, and it said problem is rats don't carry fleas. Dogs and cats   do those. So to me, you know, and I'm not disagreeing or agreeing with either. I do take Ben's word for it living in the mountains. But this is a common thing we see online. Right? Is that they're you know, it's ironic that his name's contrarian. And like I said, I'm not disagreeing with you. I don't have any problem with people being contrary. But   a lot of people get off on these kind of threads and tangents arguing about every single thing that pops up because somebody   makes the contrary statement. And then to really solve that problem now,   we would have to stop the whole stream,   allow, California contrarian to bring his position more thoroughly if he's even prepared to do that and crossing our fingers that he's a honest individual,   and that he's not gonna come intentionally with what we call sophistry. And then also allow Ben being a person who's just claimed he has a representative position with the opposite of that. So then you have to be able to zoom in   and then what what's the very first thing we're gonna do? We're gonna create definitions of words and agree on them, and then somebody like Alan's gonna police the conversation and say, well,   you just use the word in a different context that you agreed to earlier. You wanna explain yourself?  

Did you change the definition? Do we have to reassess the definition again? Are you gonna,   re rebut that statement or bring it back and say, okay. I changed my mind. Maybe you're right. That definition's really more, you know and it becomes very convoluted really fast,   but people don't do that at all. It just goes  

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Let's let's simplify this. It's pretty basic with fleas.   Anything with hair that's warm blooded that goes into an area,   they cut that goes into an area with grass, catches the fleas, then they interact with other areas. Rats come from outside. They go inside your house from the outside.   A lot of people don't let their animals   go outside of their extraordinarily toxic yards, which no insects are living in, including fleas.   Like,   that just is a chemical shit storm that nothing can live in. And but out in the woods here, where there is no chemical shit storm, we have lots of wonderful bugs   and they are on everything and the rats bring them in because they come in from the forest and they bring the fleas, and it's a it's a good time. But   if you keep things in balance,   you know, the cats still get them. The dogs get them. You bet. And then you, you know, you let it exist some because if you keep fighting it all the time, it breaks down their skin, and then they actually get them easier.  

So you gotta let it go. It's only when it gets out of control. You gotta worry about it.   You know, fucking but you bet your ass. Even I get fleas. Fucking damn things get my beard.   But no.   Oh, man. You're laying there fucking sleeping, and all of a sudden there's a flea in the beard. You're like, god. Oh.  

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No. I'm the nurse. That that's the men number one thing preventing most people from even putting their pinky toe in the pool that Ben's in. The idea that there's gonna be something,   a bed bug, a flea,   insects inside your house at night in the dark, and you can't turn on the lights real bright and throw everything wide open and start killing everything until you feel safe and comfortable again? How do you go back to sleep, you know, once you know that there's fleas in the house?  

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Yeah. We got overran with rats when, my my good killing cat died. And like Sarah g said, rat mead. Freaking the rats were getting into my knee. The whole thing chewed the cork off the top and the   the the butt well, it's actually it it's not cork. It's a it's a it's a bung, and then the top of it's actually a bung hole, and that's the bung that goes in the bung hole. But people are like, alright. I had it. From I was on the bus. Got fired from my job playing a prank with a bunghole once, but I'm not gonna say any more than that.   Yeah. Oh, yeah.  



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If you're not a bunghole, we'll probably see you at Flattoberfest.  

[02:38:05] Unknown:

Good. Okay if I tell the story jam or not. Oh, you can, I guess? There was a rubber bong hole at work or I had one for some reason, and I wrote   on it with a Sharpie and set it on Jim's chair. And let me tell you, Jim does not think that's funny at all. The look I've never seen that look on his face again, I don't think. I mean, sitting down on that thing, he picked it up and looked at it, and I thought, this is gonna be it for me. I thought I thought Jim would take this in a more humorous life. I was just about to   say, get the fuck out. I know. I know. I I apologize to now. I apologize again now. I'll never do anything like that to you again, Jim.  



[02:38:42] Unknown:

Jim didn't wanna sit on no bungholes ever, period. Hard stop. It's the power of a of a face to face meetup.  

[02:38:50] Unknown:

Crazy. What about wood ticks? And do you guys have wood ticks out there? I never experienced  

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fleas until I moved into the forest.   None of my dogs have ever had fleas. I've never had flea collars. No nothing. When you move into an organic area that hasn't been   chemically deadened,   some of the life is not so great in it. And you fucking ain't right. Ticks and fleas and,   out here, the ticks really suck. In in South Dakota, the ticks are all hard bodied,   and you can pull them out. Out here, they're very soft bodied, and they'll just pull apart. And you'll leave, like, half the tick in there. Yeah. So you gotta take and spin them with a cigarette.   Yeah. You gotta spin them. They, like, they just sit there and they'll eventually back themselves out or like Sean said, a cigarette. I actually invented this thing called the tick tweezers.  

And so my idea then was   is run a little electrode to the end of a tweezers so you get the best of both worlds. And the tweezer end of the tweezers heat itself. You're holding the tick, and the tick backs out because of the heat. And you just put you plant. And I thought that was one an awesome idea. Well, that's when I started learning about the patent system   and how many different inventions are blocked   because the patent has been pulled on them. And if you have anything even remotely close, like, people have this idea that in the patent system, if you make a slight alteration  

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that you can put another patent on it and call it yours, and that's not at all true. No. It's called prior art, and it destroys your opportunity to patent almost everything. My buddy who had the wheelchair invention, off road wheelchair, adaptable off road wheelchair, which invention actually did get himself a patent, but it was essentially worthless we found out afterwards. And it wasn't but usually it's because of prior art. If there's any evidence of prior art, there's a good chance that and the fuck up thing is that Matt and I will   remotely similar. Yeah. It doesn't have to be identical at all. The same. No. No. Not even   my my buddy who worked in the archery industry said he invalidated somebody else's patent with the cover of a magazine because that guy came up with this idea for an arrow rest or something and he and he tried to file a lawsuit because they were selling a similar thing. And, so in the court case, my buddy just went and found a magazine where they had   advertised on the cover of the magazine an article about the almost identical but not identical piece and it completely invalidated the guy's patent, you know. Probably cost him 100   $50,000.  

And that's all he did was fax the cover of a magazine,   you know, to show prior art because you have to spend people spend 100 of 1,000 of dollars having professionals look for prior art   and qualifying whether or not they think that will invalidate your attempt or your actual patent or not. It's just nuts. It's a scam. It's a huge scam. It's patent officers. Insane.   It is literally, practically insane. And that's that's even if you're avoiding the crazy stuff like   wars like the big tech companies do, which will just soak you so deep into the legal system. You could be completely legit, have done all of your homework, have completely legitimate patents, and Apple will just be like, check this out. Let's go to court about it then. You ready? I'm ready.   We had 60 lawyers working on this and now that we're gonna go live, now we've got 500 working on it. Let's go. Let's go to the patent office.  



[02:42:08] Unknown:

It's great. Dollars an hour each.   Yeah.   20 hours a day.  

[02:42:14] Unknown:

You know, Samsung and and Apple and Microsoft do all this stuff for fun just to clog up the courts.   No real reason. No good reason.  

[02:42:24] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. It's a shit show. We don't wanna monopolize Beth Martin's time tonight.  

[02:42:29] Unknown:

Oh, no no monopoly at all. I'm always so, tickled to be invited. Thank you so much. And I was sitting there writing about the little sister, and I went, oh, yeah. Because I listen to you guys religiously   every Saturday. It is like, and I stay up too late later than I should because it's so fun. Every time I go to turn it off, I'm a little bit How would we sound if you listen to us atheistically or  

[02:42:52] Unknown:

in another way?   Yeah. It's not the best printer do it atheistically. I don't think it's she doesn't have a capacity for it. I don't believe anything those guys say, but I keep listening to them anyway.  

[02:43:05] Unknown:

No. It's super fun. I've thoroughly enjoyed it. You guys are just being yourself, being real,   authentic, and,   it shines and shows. So, yeah, I'm I'm not a regular almost anywhere, so I just wanna let you know you're special. We love you, Beth. And Oh, thank you very much. I I always have loved that you have the courage to try actually try things  

[02:43:27] Unknown:

and experiment   and try them yourselves. You don't actually and the funny thing about you is a lot of times you even have reservations   ahead of time because you've talked to me numerous times, asked me what I think about things. And then you go and try them for yourself anyways, which is left hand path as fuck. And I can't criticize that in any way because I am left hand path as fuck. Mhmm.  

[02:43:49] Unknown:

Nice. Well, thank you so much, then. I appreciate that very much.   And,   is it okay if I leave you guys with some spam?   Yes.   Oh, yeah.   So   yeah. I have,   an obsession, I'd call it, with the nurturer archetype these days because I'm running a course starting in July.   And I've been doing a really deep dive on this archetype. And every time I start to think I'm gonna be teaching everybody else, I end up going through it   in technicolor myself. So it keeps me   humble and keeps me credible in doing this work. And it's so deep. It's so incredibly the subject just keeps on giving. There's so many   angles to it. And,   so,   Aetna, Alex Zek is dropping his interview of me, and we we talked about that quite a bit in the second half. So that's coming out on Monday.  

And,   excuse me. Since they were way behind in releasing the interview, he asked me if I could open the early bird back for that course. So it had already closed   on June 15th, but I'm gonna be opening it up for 4 days to give I'm I thought maybe I could just do it for his people, but I'm like, why don't we just do it for   all the people and get some of the chance to get the word out. So What's the word on your website? Is it still up? 99% uptime  

[02:45:11] Unknown:

Got a web page?  

[02:45:13] Unknown:

The my website? Yeah. Yeah. It's bethmartins.com.  

[02:45:17] Unknown:

Is that what you're asking? Yes. That's the question. I have a I have a real it started as a real   web page, and now it's kind of a website. So I've got a few extra pages on it.  

[02:45:28] Unknown:

Nice. I think I went to your website. Yeah. It's cool. It's cool. Yeah. But that's gonna be the best place to find your course that you're offering on the nurturer. Right? Exactly. You can visit my website. Hit yep. There's a tab right there. And there's a there's a free training people can do just to get a taste of see like, see if it's them or not. A lot of people you wouldn't believe how many people emailed me and said, I didn't even know this was a thing.   Because I   can,   you know, I can see the patterns. I can speak the patterns. And they're going, like, how are you how are you in my head? How do you know what I'm thinking? How do you know what I'm experiencing on a daily basis? It's just because it's so   freaking consistent   with archetypes.  

Once you find that map, then you start to tap into a whole lot of potential healing,   And and that's the purpose. And my vision is that if we had a world of people with way better boundaries, especially   in the so called truth and freedom movement,   that we could have those relationships that would lead to working together on a convivial basis,   actually caring, actually supporting, not just pretending   to care and giving to get or all of those other dynamics that take place when we're starving for this,   experience of,   closeness   and and and survival. Right? Like that relates oh, thank you very much.  

It,   yeah, relates very much to a lot of the things we were talking about today. So   I appreciate you guys a lot for for being here. And, if anyone wants to take part in this course, it is for cleaning up on those   places in our life where we give too much and we don't ask enough.   And we're the last person to be looked after   during the day and everybody else gets, like, looked after. But for some reason, you come up short   And,   you know, there's a lot of lot of things where people end up crashing and they they they love helping and they cannot help because it's in their blood. And the reason it's in their blood, I actually had a massive revelation on this, is because   so many of us are traumatized in our earliest moments.  

And that's when the nurturer gets born,   when the   person that we need to be caring for us is incapacitated   by some terrible birth that you hear but quick story, if you guys don't mind.   I I asked my mom when I was pregnant with my son, how did my birth go so I could get some insight on maybe how my birth was gonna go? Or how did yeah. Like, when you gave birth to me, how did that go? And and she says to me, well, who knew?   It was a twilight birth. She had no idea. It was total amnesia.   She had no fucking clue, and that was normal in those days.   Yeah. And even these days, when when women have   basically drugged births, apparently, it's it's almost identical to that experience. It's still an amnesia, that kind of thing. And to me, the amount of trauma that happens to that mom, they kill the mom's nurturer in the process because she's not present for the download when that baby's coming.  

And then it births the the baby's nurturer   because they desperately want to save   the mother who is being   murdered,   at, you know, or or incapacitated   to such a great degree.   And and this ends up creating a world full of nurturers, which you think is good, but it's a world full of shadow nurturers.   And that's why, you know, people you think that they don't care. No. It's actually because they are they are, like, saturated in this nurture energy, but not in a healthy way. So   I'm in a   position where God has been telling me to do this course over and over and over again and finally. And I thought, you know what? I'm gonna take myself out doing this course. I better clean up.   So I'm gonna really be helping people with this, and I gotta get serious about and I consider myself a person with very good boundaries,   but there's a lot of room to still grow and heal there. And, yeah. So it's been a gift for me for for sure in talking about how to   create value for yourself,   how we were talking about earlier. So thank you very much. I appreciate your support. And,   and then, yeah, tomorrow,   starting Monday through Thursday is a really good time to jump in because it's still 1 third of the investment.  

If anyone wants to join my private association in the meantime, the House of Free Will, then you would get an extra 25%   off even the early bird. So it's pretty much a giveaway.   And, Do you have to be Canadian to join? Oh, not at all. And it's on Zoom, and, yeah, people are there from all over the world. It's taking Usually, it's all available indefinitely too. That's another thing about most of Beth's coursework.  

[02:50:07] Unknown:

If you decide you're interested, most of it's available. And, definitely, you can download it even if but, I mean, I know that you've said in the past, Beth, hey. Download it because it might disappear. So far, I have not seen any evidence of anything disappearing off of your website.  

[02:50:21] Unknown:

So, I mean, I go back and reference stuff. You know? The website tells me, like, oh, it's been 5 months since you logged in. Like, well, I'm glad I'm back. Okay. Here. Let's go look at that thing I was looking for. You know? So So It's the nurture in me. Like, because I can't guarantee the the platform. So that is the truth that, you know, you could if you want this, have it now. But, but, yeah, I hear people, they go back and they do the course 2 and 3 and 4 times.   And, old groups would get together and do the do the course again and just go through the materials and, like, why would I withhold it? Right? To me, that just doesn't make any sense at all.   Because the more people that have the ability to deprogram the shadows   of what they don't know and see about themselves, then the better the world is gonna get. So that's that's where I'm coming from.  



[02:51:04] Unknown:

Steve Mercer. Miss you, buddy.   Steve Mercer.  

[02:51:09] Unknown:

Oh, Steve Mercer. You know? Nice. Nice. I've yeah. Yeah. He's actually he's got yep. You see that that's what we call it's a synchronicity.  

[02:51:16] Unknown:

Yes. Yeah. And it's hard to hard to beat. I give a big, thumbs up. Like I said earlier,   Beth herself is very left hand path because she tries the shit she's talking about, and you can't beat that. You know, all these people that say one thing but don't live anything they're talking about,   Yeah. Those people could just blow off.  

[02:51:38] Unknown:

Yeah. There you go. Well, thank you for that, Ben. I appreciate it so much. And, this has been totally fun. I enjoyed it. I want you guys back on my show, by the way. That was a scream. We had such a good time, so I would love to do that.   Yeah. Yeah. Super fun.  

[02:51:53] Unknown:

Super fun. Same We could do we could do a show about boundaries.   Yes. Yes. Exactly. Stay on We could we we could talk about, one of my favorite terms I learned from Beth.   Let's see. What was it?   Time hygiene? Is that right? Of course, as soon as I say it's my favorite, it slips my mind.   Time hygiene is exactly Energy energy hygiene. Yeah. That was it. Yeah. And How much how much energy, time, and energy hygiene? How much   how much are you giving away of your energy, and how much are you   getting from other people?   I mean, that's why, you know, like, I'll I'll be in touch now, Beth, because things have finally smoothed out. But you asked me, hey. You wanna do, like, a interview about the nurturer stuff? And I was like, well, yeah. I do. And my, you know, my heart and my brain are like, oh, man. I should do it.  

But there's just no fucking way I can do it right now. It's not possible. I'm gonna burn myself out. And then we're not gonna get   an interview that is actually honestly   showing what we're talking about. We're gonna get me   playing puppet   man, you know, being Pinocchio on the interview where, you know, for most people, it might come off okay, but it's not gonna be genuine because I need to   get through whatever the hell is going on and rest. And, you know, then, of course, I got a cold on top of all of it. So it's nuts.  

[02:53:07] Unknown:

There are no I I actually knew you were being a good nurturer by saying no. I knew that. I could bring it.   Yeah. That's exactly. In fact, I was gonna have Amanda Vomer on, and she got a migraine that day. And I'm like, no. No. That's a wrong time for this conversation. Take care of yourself. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting.   Yeah. Yeah. So well, thanks again. I appreciate it. Thanks for the the kind words. I'll probably be listening as I start getting myself done. We we we we're speaking of food and,   not prepping, but actually doing the the job of being self sufficient. I'm going to the farm tomorrow. We're gonna Nice. Do that. Yeah. Bunch of bunch of growing and a bunch of shooting. So those are good 2 good things.  

[02:53:43] Unknown:

Right. It's fun. We love you, Beth. We need more we need more pictures online of Beth with guns. I'm gonna make that the last thing I'm gonna say before you leave here. My son won't let me. He says don't do it. He  

[02:53:55] Unknown:

says yeah. Yeah. He he he figures it's out. Like, not because he's scared because he's wise.  

[02:54:00] Unknown:

No. It is. I mean, I was really kind of being tongue in cheek, you know. It's everyone's personal decision whether or not they want to be seen with a gun in their hand or shooting a gun on video, you know. Yeah. I want to  

[02:54:12] Unknown:

be   seen. Yeah. Yeah. No. I wanna be seen. I'm so proud of my son and, like, he's there like the Rambo and, we we found a new spot actually to to go shooting. It's Oh, yeah. New spots. Yeah. Those spots are really, priceless because you don't know where they are at all. And, they were shooting up the water and the trees and the hills and everything. And so it was, yeah, pretty fun.   Really good. Alright, you guys. Have a beautiful rest of your evening. I will be listening. The math.   Love you. Bye, Beth. Okay. Bye. Thank you.  

[02:54:51] Unknown:

Very interesting.  

[02:54:54] Unknown:

Yeah. At festivals.com.  

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One of the things as people start   being,   disenfranchised,   with society   is that   when you're moving back to nature,   you start understanding those things like the bugs and the fleas and the things that   out here are rampant.   But in a city   where people don't like them, well, they're used to not having them around. And, you know, again,   like anything else, you gotta experience it and then make that,   analysis on whether that's a cool thing for you. Like,   most people don't wanna, you know, every now and then   wake up in the middle of the night because there's fleas in their beard. You know, not everybody likes that.   Like, a lot of people prefer the chemical shit storm.  

Now I have one cat that's actually allergic to fleas, so I do make she does wear a flea collar because she actually gets sick as fuck, and I think she would probably die if she, didn't have the flea collar. She gets super sick from fleas and lose all her air or pukes and,  

[02:55:56] Unknown:

poor cat.  

[02:55:58] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah.   And it's matcha, the one that, you know, most people know me for, which which everybody hasn't seen because she had kittens. They're up upstairs. She was hilarious about it. She tried to have her kittens on my lap,   and, you know, all the other cats pick little hidey holes to go have their kids. Yeah. Climb into the house, house or something. Yeah. Yeah. Her   she tried to do it on my lap. And ever since then, they're just in a Rubbermaid tub next to my bed, and that's where her kittens are. And she's just got hers out in the open in a Rubbermaid tub, like, as long as it's That's really funny that that now that is a really unique experience to have a cat attempt to give birth on your lap.  

[02:56:36] Unknown:

I feel comfortable around here.  

[02:56:38] Unknown:

Yeah.   Doing this movement and digging into my leg and I was like, what the hell are you doing? And I looked down and then I see blood and everything. I'm like, oh,   she's trying to birth on me.   Not on me. Damn it. And then I went and got the Rubbermaid tub, and she had her kittens while I was sitting here.   They had them in a tub next to me, and then I took them upstairs.   Yeah. They say a lot of helps against bugs. It kills a lot of predatory bugs. It's,   but it just had certain voltages. So you just have to look up what the different voltages do.   And again, this is just voltage, not amperage. Because that's where that starts coming into a problem in the free energy community   is there's a lot of different ways to produce voltage, sometimes even very high voltage.  

But,   amperage doesn't come with it for some reason, and that's a very odd thing because typically,   amperage and voltage are inversely proportional.   So that means that the the 2, you know, interact,   specifically with each other. So if something's   20 amps at a 120 volts,   if you switch it down to 20   volts, it needs to be a 120 amps. So they're inversely proportional.   So for there to be able to be voltage with no amperage is kind of odd, but it it's the way it is. Like those, all those free energy things where they do it off a tree or off the air or whatever, they're getting voltage, but no amperage.   And amps is what does the work.  



[02:58:22] Unknown:

Does your amp go to 11?  

[02:58:25] Unknown:

Mine,   I don't know. It's built into my I got surround sound now. So that way everybody behind me can hear the show,   but I I don't have to have it blaring out of my TV and causing back feed into my microphone.   I don't know what it's turned up to.  

[02:58:40] Unknown:

I bought this book bit for Ben because it's about, etymology.   Oh.   Now we're gonna do a little bibliomancy. Let's see. What do we get here? Chappology.   Let's see what's it say. From the   sacred cloak of Saint Martin,   late Latin, capa,   mint. So chapel means cloak   and a diminutive, which means smaller form of capella,   spelled also   capella,   mint, a little cloak, a hood, a cowl,   The cloak worn by Saint Martin of Tours who died in the 4th century was preserved as a holy relic, and the word capella was used to refer to the shrine in which Saint Martin's cloak was kept. So capella   came to mean a place for keeping sacred things,   fine and finally, any holy place or place of worship,   the meaning of the old French form, Chapelle,   taken into English as chapel. That's how we say it. Not Chapelle. We say chapel.  



[02:59:44] Unknown:

It's at the chapel. I'm sure I'm sure nobody wore pointy hats before  

[02:59:49] Unknown:

that. Right. The guardian of the shrine where Saint Martin's cloak was kept was called in Latin,   Capillanus.   That's right.   K capillanus,   which gave French   chaplain English chaplain. So oh, yeah. So you got that?  

[03:00:05] Unknown:

He's the chaplain. So anus  

[03:00:08] Unknown:

anus and chaplain   are directly related. Isn't that strange? They also seem in some categories to be fond of said things if they're young enough.  

[03:00:18] Unknown:

So so where my problem always comes in with these things   and   and, you know,   this is one of those things and we were this cut earlier, we were talking about this where people sometimes have understandings or ideas, but they haven't developed the rhetoric   to to help,   express that.   And so,   I've always kind of known that this is what's going on.   And the world, the academic world wants to put everything, especially our current academic world wants to give everything.  

[03:00:56] Unknown:

They're just talking about them.  

[03:00:59] Unknown:

Those are the academics now. They're on vacation. They give everything to the, Latin world, to the Roman world. And when you look at and this is it's a super interesting study. And the part of why I didn't have a rhetoric and wasn't able to eloquate the what I wanted   was because,   I didn't have enough information yet.   And when you start looking at it, you start noticing a number of things.   Like, all the all the Latin histories and all the things like that.   Well, what they considered the world   was the area they lived in.   And so, yeah, they are definitely fartwalkers.  

Jim got it.   But, that they are,   so   everything else, it's not that it didn't exist. So you gotta start looking at their wordings of things.   It's not that it didn't exist. They called that the barbarian lands. So the world that was the civilized world. So that was people that spoke Latin and that people that were under the the curtain of Rome. Now   you fast forward that a number of years   when,   you start looking at   what   they called   illiterate people. I'm illiterate   to them meant you couldn't read Latin.   Not that you couldn't read.   That didn't mean that you didn't even maybe read 4 or 5 different languages   and were able to write them out. But because you couldn't read Latin,   you were considered illiterate. And this kept on until   very recently. You even look at like the seventies or   eighties.  

The   if you were classically educated,   you had a Latin education.   You've read the Latin works.   You've, you know, delved into that kind of thing,   but   the actual base of our language.   So if it's not a medical word or some shitty flowery word   is a German   base.   So this is I got into an argument with one of these etymology people because they're like, oh, the sun's this and this, and that's why it's this and blah blah blah.   And, you know, did that dumb shit, that fucking numb nuts, Sacochio, and,   fucking chance and them do. Where they fucking they're like, they're in a p with a v, and I scratched my butt, and it smelled like cat piss.   And now x is l, and   sun means fall.  

Like, you're fucking dumb. Water and the sun are the same thing. You're you're stupid.   So you go back to old Germanic.   The sun was suna   or Suna depending on the region.   Sun,   cigarette is Ziggarettin   in German.   Like they just dropped the fucking e n the the e or the the we take off that feminization or that masculinization.   We pull that off in English, I'm gonna say because we don't use those type of words. We use a more neuter, I'm gonna say system.   So soon or soon becomes   sun.   I didn't have to do all kinds of stupid things.   Didn't have to turn s's into p's into q's and jack off and it scratch my butt and sniff it and pretend like I knew something about other languages or and act like a little dumb fuck Italian and claim to be fucking related to Caesar. I didn't do any of those things.  

Suna.   Sun.  

[03:04:37] Unknown:

Real fast. Why I put it up on the screen. If you get deep into learning how to write,   you'll run into the debate of whether or not   a Latinate   or Germanic   word choice is appropriate.   And usually, you run into this kind of stuff, especially if you're gonna do copywriting and advertising. Okay? So if you're gonna advertise to academics,   you wanna use lots of Latinate language because that's what they're familiar with and that's what they love. They wanna hear the flowery,   more extrapolated, more exaggerated language with lots of nuance and all the extra roads to follow down. Whereas if you're gonna sell stuff, say,   to guys who are pipe fitters and welders,   you're gonna wanna really avoid Latin language. You're gonna wanna really hunker down on your Germanic language down to 1 or 2 syllable words that mean exactly what they fucking say, and there's no wiggle room at all. You know? And that's it. You know? And that's so   so both are valuable and good.  

To me, the problem is with the Latinate stuff, the sophistry   easily increases.   Sophistry is the intentional use of language to deceive people. There was people back in the day that were known as sophists, and now they were paid for. They were like lawyers that they knew they could go into an argument, and they could win the argument knowing full well that they are wrong, lying intentionally,   and they can substantiate their argument using fancy word choices   and way more than that. It's not just word choices. It's the whole fucking kitten caboodle. Like, they can develop a what I call a magical system of language that allows people to be completely deceived by language versus where the Germanic,   you can't really do that. You know? I mean, you can, but it's not you don't have all the frills and bells and whistles to make it easy. Yeah. And that's why I used to rhetoric a person into deceiving themselves.  



[03:06:22] Unknown:

You're saying things bluntly   rather than   because the thing is is in their language,   they aren't even as being as deceptive as they will lead you to a place   that your mind, because you're thinking logically, will follow.  

[03:06:38] Unknown:

And Right. That's not where you're supposed go. That's true. It's not them lying to you, but you them giving you enough choices that you decide the wrong thing   because they gave you the opportunity to. And that's how our whole legal system works. That's the problem with it.   They don't they don't trick us and and lie and deceive us. They give us enough choices that we choose the bad fucking route consistently and then they say, hey, they chose the bad route, So it's okay for us to build them. It's okay for us to tax them. It's okay for blah blah blah. That's how it happens. And it does start with a rhetoric because the old system of education was,   you know, the,   you know, what's what is it called? You know, it's, the the 3 basic ones and then the 4 more sophisticated ones. I can't think of what it's called. You know? No. It's out. The quadrivium. The trivium quadrivium. Right. So trivium trivium, you know, ideally, we would have been taught the most basic trivium when we were young, which is first, you know, you have to get your,   your language and fully understand all your definitions, and then you get all your logic and you make sure you understand how the definitions go together, and then rhetoric is to use them together. This is a really basic concept. And the rhetoric is the most important part because you have to have all your word definitions first, and then you have to know what they mean and in what order for it to be absolutely useful.  

Then you move into where you're actually playing the game. So it's kinda like 2 tutorials of how to communicate and then practice. And if we and we don't do that. So all of our rhetoric sucks, and everybody's speaking false things all the time. They call it fallacies. You know? And that's just the world we live in. Well, almost everything you hear, every argument you hear, all of it is all usually just completely laden with fallacious bullshit.  

[03:08:23] Unknown:

Full of it. Yeah. There's I actually watch these debate shows. It's like a guilty pleasure of mine, and it's part of   I like to see how other people think. And it's shocking   how, you know, I'm old enough that I was forced to take debate. And,   like when you debated, you didn't get to debate the position you wanted. You drew a card and you debated whatever the fuck that card said. Whether you gave us shit about it, whether you agreed with it. So you were forced to take positions that you may not agree with at all. Well, now I've got to sit there and think through a whole   bunch of things. Well, those things are gonna be holes that are poked   position I would have naturally chosen to take. Well, now that also is gonna strengthen me as   position, because now I understand the holes in them because I just found them myself. I just poke those holes because I had to take the the   con position to a pro that I thought. And and the basic understanding of how to debate completely gone. They people can't put themselves   in a hypothetical   situation.  

People can't understand when they make take a position   whether they're defending the position. And then even if you poke at the position,   Like, I'm just poking at yours and taking you down a logical,   a logical pathway to see how well your position works. I haven't even taken a fucking position here.   Like and and that's so far beyond people.  

[03:09:58] Unknown:

There's a guy that I want. Understand what the argument means. You know, people think argument means to have a screaming match or a disagreement, and that's not. An argument is a very specific thing. You know?   Yep. And and Usually, emotion is not supposed to be involved. If you're getting emotional, you're better to be quiet and cool off because the emotion's not gonna help you continue your argument. You know? Coolness on a hot night.  

[03:10:21] Unknown:

Germans are the best at this because we like to get a rise out of other people, but be stoic is a motherfucker.   Like, we're the best at that. Like, if I can get your gold, then you lose. It doesn't even matter if I if my position is correct or I believe it. You lose. Because now showed emotion, you lost. Those used to be the old rules. Yeah. If you showed emotion, then you already lost.  

[03:10:45] Unknown:

Exactly. That's interesting. I'm I was glad I did read you one,   etymological   definition there because it's very fascinating to me where chapel   Chapilanus   came from.   Yeah. Which again would be, you know, that that's super And no, I get Your hood and your hey, wait, Tay. I think these guys have got their head up their ass. That's what they said. Chaplinians.  

[03:11:06] Unknown:

How many years later did we end up with ChapStick,   cherry flavor, otherwise?  

[03:11:11] Unknown:

Never go full Santos.   Never go full   Sherry's right.   See, Sarah G was in a mock trial club in high school and they'd eat Port Rinds while the lawyer was coaching us. Yeah. You've got to learn and that's just typical debate.   But then   you've got to learn   at some point you're just learning how to do it. And then eventually you end up taking your positions and that's who you are. But then you should also live that shit. And that's the big problem is in our community is we've got a bunch of real disingenuous people that say a bunch of shit that they can't prove or live. And, you know, screw that. We also have to be able and sometimes you run into a place where it might have even been 10 years and you go, fuck.  

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I think I might have been wrong or, hey. I don't really believe that anymore. So I have to reevaluate my position, and it could completely put you underwater for 2 more years trying to figure out who you are now instead of keeping that personality   aspect,   you know, I believe blank,   so blank. You know? How many cops do you think decided, oh, maybe I'm one of the bad guys. And then they had a midlife crisis and had to completely maybe they had to leave town, get a divorce, and, no longer be in touch with their kids to get out of being a cop, and then find out what. You know? What am I gonna do now? You know? Yeah. Run off and join the circus because they don't know because they're what they are inside doesn't match what they are on the outside, and Yeah. They need to go realign shit.  

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And, oh, you damn straight.  

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You damn straight. Gonna keep showing these as long as as long as people keep saying never go full Santos, I'm gonna keep putting them on.   Correct.   The Santos lab. Never go full. Oh, is this so people know the the other four liberal arts   are I think it's mathematics,   geometry,   music,   and then   astronomy or it might be astrology. And so that's   regular math,   math in 3 dimensions,   then math   along with   movement,   and then math in   is that right? In movement or no? It's time. So music would be math with time   and then math with movement. So that's the those are the higher arts.   You know, and so that's, that's something I've always been fascinated by, but I've never applied myself to it like I'd like to. But it's very interesting to me. They give you those core three that we talked about   as kids, you know, like when you're 3 or 4 years old or whatever. Yeah. And you have them mastered by the time you're 8 or 9, and then they move you into you're gonna learn math, you're gonna learn,   math in 3 dimensions, then you're gonna move you're gonna learn math while it moves to time, and then you're gonna learn math while it moves to time and exist in space. So it's kinda like   the last one, astronomy, is   is like music and geometry combined. You know?  

Do both at the same time.  

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Now here's where my problem comes in Germanic and Latin. I feel like we're still in that Germanic Latin war. And really, if you   pin most things down in the world throughout history, it's a Latin and German or a Latin and Germanic thing.   Now you look at it, they call those the higher   arts.   But what do we have when we got a whole world full of college fucks that know these college arts, these liberal higher arts, but they don't understand basic living? When you got a kid that knows how to do math, but he doesn't understand animal husbandry or farming or how to do basic life skills.   That all the things that   are supposed to be   the things that you just do with, like, muscle memory.  

You're they're so ingrained into you are gone, and all we have is these higher   liberal arts.  

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Well, they don't feed you very fucking well. You can No. It used to be that you never considered any of that stuff unless all of that was completely established to the point that you were successfully   living and gained leisure time. You didn't used to have leisure time. You don't have leisure time if you have to shear the sheep and plant the corn and fucking hoe a row and, dig a ditch because the waters are drowning out your cows dead, you know. Exactly. Well, that's the it has to come first. And if you're not doing it first, then you're gonna die. But now we don't die. Instead, we could eat western family, macaroni and cheese for 25¢, you know?  

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So what we've done is glorified these Greek jackasses who are a bunch of rich fucks. The Greek philosophers, they sat around just talking. Like, why weren't you working?   Like, how do you know anything when you don't do nothing? Like, how do you know any of the bullshit you're talking fucking works? Like, that's and we glorify those people something fierce and not a damn one of them knew how to feed themselves.   You know, they were all at the mercy of the king. They were just a bunch of beggars in the king's court that sat around chatting   and throwing out high ideas.  

Like, not one of them knew how to feed their damn selves. And we glorify them some fierce,   some fierce.   And it's an amazing thing.   And it's,   again,   you look at it throughout   our higher education system.   They've made it so if you don't know that kind of things, you're kind of if if you don't know the Latin things,   you're uneducated.   And so when they used to say illiterate, when they told told you that the country was illiterate,   that's because you couldn't read Latin.   And we somewhat knew that   because they talk about things like the church preaching in Latin. So that way the cut they would have to be the go between because the common folk didn't understand Latin.   That doesn't mean they didn't read German. That doesn't mean they didn't read French. That doesn't mean they didn't read 6 other fucking languages that weren't la Latin.  

Like but Latin was the only one that's recognized. That's how they get away   with saying that we were illiterate. That's how they get away with saying that the world was this one thing because they didn't consider anything but the Latin world to be   part of the world. That's how they get away with saying Adam and Eve were the first people because we aren't humans. They were the fuse first humans. You've gotta start listening to the way people talk   and then taking them at what they're saying.   Because then Adam and Eve had kids, and what those kids went out and had kid and one of them got married and had kids with some other lady who had parents and grandparents and shit. There were other people, but not humans according to their terminology. Right. Definitions are everything back to the idea that, you know, what's a what's a person? What's a human? Yeah. You know, what's a man? What which, you know, which one are we you know, we all presume  

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a vague idea, then you just presume that they all mean the same thing. Well, the not especially not in the Latinate world, they absolutely do not mean the same thing. And Yep. If you're a Sophist,   then you're gonna intentionally lead somebody to choose that choice and then lead them down the road where they're presuming that a person   and a and a human are the same, and now they've got you. You're done now because you're gonna fall in all their pitfalls   because they're using that presumption against you in such a way to, well, honestly, to get paid to take advantage of you because that's what the softest were doing, you know?  

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Yep. That's how you end up with   somehow you are told a story where there's only 2 people in the whole world and they have a couple sons and then one of those sons comes gets thrown out but comes back with a wife. Where the fuck did the wife come from?   It was that wife a sheep? Oh, no. She was a a a a person? A human?   Wow. How did that fucking happen? Yeah. Maybe person but not a human. Right?  

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Their offspring were half human.  

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Yep. So this is how you get that. You start having to put yourself in their little word games. In in the Germanic language,   We're more about we want you to understand what the fuck we're saying.   Like, I said what I mean. I meant what I said.   You know? Straight out. Like and there's no confusion about it. If there is any confusion, you made that confusion happen on purpose in your head.   I was real blunt about what I said.  

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Well, when people are having a more basic   bare bones   attitude about things, the first thing we do is resolve that confusion. If we're gonna make a handshake deal, we have a conversation and we talk. And if there's any confusion or consideration or if it pops into your head, like, oh, maybe he thinks the trailer comes with the truck, then you make a very specific point. And if, he doesn't speak perfect English, then you talk to his little translator wife who does and say that doesn't come with it.   You know? Make sure he knows because I don't want confusion.   And so but dishonest people or people who are on the fence,   well, then that's a different thing. And, you know, the the premise is   to not intentionally take advantage of one another   as a rule,   but it's not safe to presume that people have that rule. You know? Yeah. But it used to be safe to presume people had that rule that if they were kin, even if they were kin that were 6 cousins over, 3 hills over, 2 days travel over. If they were kin, you would assume until they demonstrate that they're dishonest, you know, and then there's gonna be a fight or something.  

But with foreigners or someone else, you didn't presume that there's gonna be  

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above board dealings because you don't know. They're not, you know. Well, and it's super interesting because you see how these highly educated   and the more sophist sophisticated   sophist.   Mhmm. Right. That's where it came from. Yeah. We like, and when you see those people,   they're the ones that are always preaching nonviolence.  

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Well, fuck, yeah. You don't want people to be violent. Fucking once you realize your word games tricked us into forfeiting our trailer, and then we won't kill you. Of course, you don't want any violence.  

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You're a tricky worm of a fuck. You don't want people to be violent.   You know? Of course, you don't. Like, where where I am, it's not that I want people to be violent, but I don't have a problem with people being violent with with sneaky shits.   So that's okay. I don't preach nonviolence   because   occasionally violence is the only answer. That whole nonsense where they went around preaching to all of us that violence never solves anything.   No. Violence solves everything.   That's, like, literally at a breakdown of when there's a breakdown   of communication,   violence is the only answer ever.  

I I don't even know what you're saying.  

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What is what is the definition of hobby horsing then?   Is it now equated to something similar to air guitar ing? That is when your mother is extraordinarily mentally ill  

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and then   forces you into a thing that,   you know, makes you into some prize that she can show off to other people because she has an extreme illness?  

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Equestrian   and equestrianism   without the equestrian   is   never hobby horsing.  

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Crunchy Karen.  

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Crunchy Karen. We'll see if it's a weird the   horse through that struggle.   H o c h o  

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That's Hobble.  

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Hobble.  

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Hobble horse. Okay.   A long stick   topped by a wooden horse's head.   A child straddles the stick and pretends to ride it. A rocking horse.   A wicker horse won't worn   in a Morris dance by the person portraying a horse. I wonder what a Morris dance is.   This person   to ride one's hobby horse, to talk   boringly and frequently about a pet idea.   So there you go.   I think I was gonna say, I bet Ben likes that last one to talk frequently and boringly about a pet idea.  

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Why isn't that the first definition? Out here is  

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riding his hobby horse again. Quit hobby horse. Winco   Foods when they used to be cub.  

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Morris dance is a form of English folk dance. It's based on rhythmic stepping in the execution of choreographed figures by a group of dancers in costume.   Single   musician, also costumed, will accompany   them.   Sticks and swords, handkerchiefs, and a variety of other implements may also be wielded by the dancers.   First appeared in England in 15th century,   earliest surviving mention to 1448,   and it really looks like kinda like a river dance.  

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Yeah. And some of these pictures for if you type Morris dance horse into Google, you get some pretty great great pictures here. Yeah. This is like the first river dance.  

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River dance is my hobby horse. I'll have you know. That that is a hobby horse also, Adam. Apparently, hobby horse covers anything that's not a horse that's fake   that your dumbass you put your dumbass retarded kids on, which usually when they're, like, 2, that's cool.   But this is, like,  

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kids that were old enough to be doing, like Yeah. I mean, when your daughter's 11 and she's still pretty focused on her hobby horse, it might be time to gently encourage her towards a real horse or away from horses altogether.  

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I know you'll forgive me for for cornholing the topic and,   hobby horsing.  

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You know, at least cornhole is,   something that drunk people that was just a simple drunk   game for drunk people. Like and I and I fully encourage that because darts   darts is fucking dangerous with drunk people.  

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Like, America can't hold hands. People get big. Yeah. You know, there's times when you're glad that the dart hit the person in the back of their head when they step into the line of fire that they didn't that it wasn't the face that they were aiming at on accident. I mean, it is an uncomfortable feeling if the dart sticks into someone's skull, not just the skin, but you can tell that when they pull it out, like, it's sticking straight out,  

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then they go Yeah. I like it rigid. It's gotta it's not floppy.   Bing.  

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It's got some Yeah. That's that's the disturbing thing. I'm still confused about this cornholing game because it looks like they're using beanbags, but are they using   dried corn in a fabric bag, and then they're tossing it into a hole on a board?   Yeah.   Is it a beanbag, or is there dried corn in the bag?  

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Usually it's white kennels. White because most people are buying them, but I suspect,  

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didn't that game supposedly start Yeah. But you changed the name of the rice bowl.  

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Yeah.   Because that would that that would sound super super racist against Asians.   Racist.   You know, nobody wants to nobody wants to jam things in the rice hole. Like, that that new assignment, like,   Like, Sean's always breaking the racism.   You know, he's the most scary guy I know. And not a name yet. Of things.  

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But there's no there's no luck attribution to the, cornhole bag  

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as they do with the horse. Even a horseshoe. You horseshoe would hurt, like, hurts like hell. In that game, you were talking about each other, basically. And if you're getting drunk, I've definitely seen it. And it gets where I understand like a beanbag, that's pretty safe.   You're both standing even on the same side when you throw it. Because I think, I'm not real. I'm not I don't drink nor do I do that kind of thing, but I think you're supposed to isn't it similar to horseshoes where, like, you can knock the bag and it's   certain points if it goes in the hole, certain points if it's   close to the hole or something. I I don't know.  

I I don't drink. And I quit drinking when I was like 21.  

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Could start a whole separate league where it's beanie babying and you use   recycled beanie babies.  

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Well, that would be a very poor use of your investment,   Marcus.  

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Oh, yeah. Sometimes you just have to rip the tag off and grow up and   pay your own student loans.  

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You know, those  

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are not in here. Cornhole is not in the dictionary. Maybe it's not even a real thing.  

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Is   it a forced meme?  

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Sheree says that some   see, but like, you know, my   beard's in the way most of the time, but my necks, the sides of my neck are tattooed. And when I was getting tattooed on my neck, I felt it up here.   Like, it felt like somebody was tattooing up here. I was like, weird.  

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Taste. That's weird. I taste peanut butter.   Okay.   Now now we're getting somewhere. We're gonna urban dictionary cornhole.  

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Their lawn darts were so dangerous.  

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So fucking dangerous. You know some people died.  

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Yeah. I do. There's the you know that game of that grown ups? We all did that with lawn darts where you chuck that shit up in the air and then you'd Oh, yeah. You know, like, you'd start out doing it, like, for, like, half an hour doing it right, and then you're fucking doing it, trying to hit your cousin. And then, you know, you're playing dodgeball with lawn charts and yeah. They they were a bad idea.  

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Yeah. We're not gonna be able to get definition on urban dictionary allowed. I encourage people to look it up themselves.   I could say the act of, Jeremy  

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spoken someone in the butt. What it it that it means spoken someone in your butt. Yes. But whoever wrote the definition back in 2005,  

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they used more Latin language than they did Germanic.   Right. Right. I think, honestly, I've got an idea for urban dictionary.   They should split their whole dictionary in half   and have a tab that you have to choose. You type your word in and it pops up. Latinate, Germanic.   And you hit Germanic and it says poking someone in the butt. And you hit latinate and it says the act of gently inserting your well lubed blank into your woman's well rimmed and squeaky blank,   making sure plenty of lube has also been applied to her blank. Did you turn it into a Mad Lib?  

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Yeah.   My stuff that's gonna fill in the blank? Yeah. I'm saying, and Germans don't fuck around with it. We don't even wanna take the time. We let you quit. We quit listening like halfway into that sentence. No, you asked. I told you. I'm swaying the butt.   Yeah. Like, I do that all the time when I reword shit. People say, like, you know, take me 3 words. Yeah. She said poke them in the butt.  

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Is it listed as a reward or a punishment?  

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No. You can't look at it that way. That's not fair. That's interjecting your I don't know. How's your prostate, Marcus?   It's a shrug. He has no idea. To me. He forgot he had one until you brought it up then.  

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That's what you don't know besides you don't want that thing to get to the size of an orange without knowing about it. Are you calling me a pro status?  

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We weren't gonna talk about politics   all night long.  

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Okay. Yeah. Cornholing. Yeah. That I can see where that with the cornholing.  

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Yeah. Sure. Now for some reason, the second definition is just another name for Miley Cyrus. That's kind of funny.   Okay. An active here we go. An activity popularized by the University of Kentucky   Greek community. This game, which requires   little control over one's physical faculties yet apparently takes years of intense dedication to perfect,   consists of attempting to throw a small bean bag into a hole sawed in the center of a wooden plank, elevated to slight angle above the ground. The uniform for play consists of overpriced khaki shorts and pastel colored shirts. Cornhole only occurs at temperatures above 62.7   degrees Fahrenheit.  

Frat guy 1. Damn it. It's nice outside. Yeah. That's that's guy 2. Let's play cornhole. I this is 2006.   I had no idea that the Kentucky Greeks,  

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developed cornhole.  

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Prepping. They they see, now when I was young, we used to call them checking somebody's oil if you did if you jammed your finger in their butt.   I was checking the oil.  

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Well, yeah, I mean, if you go to the first definition, it's pretty specific about what is touching the butt and in what way now. Have you seen the Asian, videos of those guys that gets a joke in some I don't know which Asian community, but they they, like,   do like this.   And they wait until their friend is distracted, like, leaning into his locker and they're like Charlie is working for me. I mean, it's hilarious. So you did gotta look those videos at some time. Like, there was a guy on the trampoline and they had it in slow motion. And the guy who was gonna do it was so happy. He's like, oh.   You know? And of course, the guy coming down on the trampoline is pretty shocked. I know. He's so bad.  

So bad. So bad.  

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Where you make the finger of the gun.  

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I'm gonna kill you if you and I recommend,  

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against the guy, mister to Jim Laden. He will go to prison for murdering you if you get this Yeah. Quite a few throw out. No humor in it. Yeah. I'm with Jim on this side. We're on this side.   That's gonna that's gonna get murder   y. Although I do find I do find that there there's Just find a watch. Right?   There's videos out there with a bicycle   that they leave without a chain, and they just leave it, like, really stealable.   And it has Yeah.   Snaps him in the butthole.   That I do find hilarious.  

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Concho master. Okay.   That's the name of his name. It's Japanese, of course. Japanese.  

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Yeah. Wreck them damn near kill them. Yeah.   Yeah. That thing, it was spring loaded too. It really whacks their butthole. Like, you you bike thieving shit. Yeah. No. That's what you get, and they always drop. Every time the bike just drops, they quit paddlers.   Like, ah, like, immediately   they're done paddling. They just like walking away like they gotta poop. It's great.   That was always an evil move in wrestling. I never did it, but other guys I knew did it. They'd take and jam their it's just their thumb, not that whole holy fuck. That's crazy.   But they just do it their thumb when you get a guy in a bad wrestling position and give the old check the fucking oil   and   Yikes.  

Extra ruthless to check the oil and then give them the old fish hook afterwards. That's that's just ruthless.  

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I mean, that's to me, that's grounds for a fight. And if the other guy doesn't at least get close to being ready to fight, then you've learned a lot about his character at that point. Yeah.  

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Somebody got charged with murder for giving their stepdad an atomic wedgie.   Did did did the guy die from an atomic wedgie? Like, did it rip his butt hole?   Really? Like, did the guy for rectal damage? That's a hell of an atomic wedgie if the guy took that kind of retinal damage. Has anyone attempted a nuclear wedgie? Nuclear wedgie. That's gotta be a nuclear wedgie. Of course.   Wow.   Is that the first person that's ever died of a wedgie?   Like that, you know what? That that that's like this that had to be the straw that broke the camel's back. They've gotta take that into consideration.   Like, his rectum was not in good condition if a wedgie killed him.  

Like,   something wrong there in the first place.   Holy shit. How did he yes. We want the link. Of course, we want the link. Does howdy doody have a wooden dick?   Holy smoke.   Like, I I'm you know,   was this like a giant kid and the stepdad was a little weenie of a dude? Like, how does this even happen?   Like, I can't imagine anybody giving me a Tom an atomic wedgie. Like, that'd have to be like the mountain and Brock Lesnar at the same time or something.   Can we click this?   How do I click this? Somebody click this and bring it up. Alright. I'll see what happens. How do you do this? Figure it out.   The stepdad was beating the mom.  

Oh,   fuck. Oh, this gets even priceless. So the kid was an awesome kid. That is great.  

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That dude deserved that adrenaline. We need to put some money on this guy's books.  

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Yeah. Now where do we send money to his books?   He   he deserves some ramens.  

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Send him a little note. Hey. We ended up talking about you on our livestream. Here's the 20 spot. You know? Sorry that you're still in prison. You know?  

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Hope you're doing it right, man. Yeah. If somebody's beating on your mom and you stand up for your mom by giving a dude an atomic wedgie and this abusive guy is such a bitch, he dies from the atomic wedgie.   Bravo, sir. Bravo.  

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Triangle link. Send it to the Telegram, Abby.  

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Please.   Please. We wanna see this.   Not all heroes were capes.   This is right up there with the dude that went around killing and beating and killing the guys on the pedophile registry.   I guess not what it's for?   I don't understand.   Why did you tell me where they live if that's not what you wanted to happen? I don't get it.  

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Yeah. Why are we having them registered?  

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That's so ever. But, you know, as a heathen,   when we would,   our biggest punishment was to ban people from our   our, villages, our societies.   And when you were banned,   anybody could do whatever to you. You were allowed to be abused and used. You weren't even a person no more.   You were like a Hebrew.   And freaking,   we didn't even like you anymore. Like, we you could do whatever to that guy because he's an outlaw now.   That that's   that's what   that guy   should have been in the first place. Like, anything you do to him doesn't really count,   especially when it's the son of the abused woman. That don't count.  



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Yeah.  

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Fuck that guy.  

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Uh-huh.  

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And then jump in and jump back out.  

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This is where we all need to learn about   jury nullification.   Even if you believe a person and you're on the jury and you believe they are guilty of the   crime that they have been accused of,   you can take a moral stand   against   punishing that person   and saying not guilty   anyways.  

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Well, no. They they they do a whole bunch of work   to hide the fact that jury nullification exists. Like, there's a whole lobby and is not very well known, but they really fight hard.   People will get in trouble for going and petitioning in front of the courthouse, but just with a piece of paper that says, hey. This is what jury notification is. Here's how you do it. They act like it's this huge big deal because you can get laws taken off the books   like crazy. If you don't think the law is right and you're on the jury, you can just say, nope. I don't care if this guy's guilty or innocent. I think this law is unacceptable.   BS. And then and then it puts it in a position of either eliminating it or at least putting it under review before that law is still effective. And so it's really   if everyone would just go and and practice jury nullification every time they were on a jury,   it would clean out the courts of lots of bad laws. Now, of course, I do recommend only getting rid of laws that you really do have a problem with. But, unfortunately, at this point, that's a goodly portion of them nowadays, the way that they write in published laws. It's crazy. It's crazy.  



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Now see, over here, I do to some degree agree with what you're saying, Ryan.   But here's my problem.   Okay. I'm a very traditional dude   and I and I'm in a traditional relationship.   And I believe in the traditional relationship.   And in a traditional relationship, the man is the leader.   Now   if the son of a daughter who's under the purview of a of a a bad leader who's using and abusing those under him,   that's a good man that goes and takes care of that.   And and so I don't disagree that that is somewhat consensual, but on the same token, there's all kinds of things in relationships that a good wife will put up with because she backs her man.   And so as a as a   as a man,   we have to be accountable to each other. So if we see another man who's in a relationship with a good woman   who is   taking advantage of that woman, it's upon the other good men of the area   to take to go and straighten that motherfucker out.  

And that's and that's what you go do because she's being a good woman. It's not her fault that she's that that dude is a shit dude. You see, you just need to go give him some fucking adjustment.   And that used to be acceptable, but in this   fuzzy, you need to just leave, dude.   Go outside. You're right.  

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And who's down the side? Don't care. For whoever has to play Ben in the, movie about weaving spiders webs, I feel bad for them in the script writing process where they have to figure out how to interject animal husbandry comments and household pets comments   in the middle of their deep Germanic philosophical statement   without I mean, you can't miss a not even you don't even have 0.25 of a second. It needs to be as smooth as silk. Multi  

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threaded conversation.   I did get the video. I put it in the telegram.   I was unable to share it because I've shared too many screens tonight.   So it is on our telegram.  

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Spider is one of them. Be fairly easy to look up, I would think. How many dudes killed their stepdad with an atomic wedgie? I mean, that just can't be a common story. Hey, down there. Quit dialing the phone. I don't know if I wanna give this one away, but they got a little black one. My black my black guy that yeah.  

[03:43:02] Unknown:

Can you mail them?  

[03:43:05] Unknown:

No. And?   No.  

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I recommend I'd say it's unethical and  

[03:43:11] Unknown:

immoral to mail them, but you can. How much tape would you use on that package   to seal it up?  

[03:43:18] Unknown:

So that's sure Dinger receives the mail. The marijuana edibles affect the cat bin?  

[03:43:26] Unknown:

Yes. A 100%.  

[03:43:27] Unknown:

In fact Okay. So I mean, if you gave it, like, 200 milligrams   and, then put some oxygen   in the in some liquid in the box and you didn't send it too far, it might be okay.  

[03:43:39] Unknown:

My my pit bull, Debbie, got ran over.   And at first, I was giving her, I still had some,   ox some pure oxycottons.   Apparently, dogs can take pure oxycotton, but not the ones where they mix a bunch of stuff in it. And because I had shattered my whole left side in that motorcycle accident, I had some pure ones   left. And so she got ran over by a car by a truck.   And,   so I gave her my lax oxycodons, like 20 or 30 of them or something that I had sitting in a bottle.   But then when that ran out, I started giving her edibles,   that helped her quite a bit. Well, one day, cutie, that cat that comes in and rides on my shoulders all the time and makes me go outside and get her and bring her in,   rides my shoulders in. She, was like not moving. And the kids all thought she was   dad.  

And I get over and they asked me to go check her out.   And my mom's holding her and she really is looking half dead the way she's laying. But then when I get close, I hear her purring.   And I'm   like, you know, things dying miserably don't usually purr like that. I said, that's pretty odd.   And then I realized that, I went up to my spot in the Winnebago where I made Gabby, and I'd made Gabby's,   dose of medication. I'd take a specific dose of,   RSO, and I'd put it inside one of those little treats that hides it and give it to her.   Fuck up. Happy as hell about it, but lit up.  

With  

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driving his golf men around.   Had a dog that ate ate a whole half of a tin of brownies,   pot brownies. And Ah. Dog was   its its back end wasn't even working. It was just, like, running around with his front paws and the back leg for his jog in.   It was terrifying for, like, 2 days.  

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Fucking,   when we first   when we first got,   Tyr and,   Scotty,   So Tyr is a real big one.   Well,   I was still growing growing back then when we were living in Redding. I used to grow some weed. Not a lot, but, you know, my own.   And,   I had wet in all my stems. I had a pile of sticks and stems.   So Tyr would go back there, and he would chew on them fucking things until he just got roached.   Roached.   So one day,   all of a sudden, I hear Christy just screaming   bloody murder.   And I go running outside and I'm like, what's wrong?   And she goes, Tyr's dead.  

But when she started Oh, no. Freaking bloody murder,   Tyr jumped up and ran across the yard   like, you know, scared shit.   And she's like, Tyr's dead. And I'm like,   tears that just ran away?   She's like, yes.   Like  

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this is really strange behavior for dad. I I mean, dad and running really don't go together.  

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He said because chicken, baby, you know, chicken can pancake  

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and run, but   It's tea. I remember when a friend of mine is,   his ferret   ate, like,   I don't know, 2 or 3 ounces of fresh cut weed,   And that guy was so mad. I mean, he loved that ferret so much, but I really thought he was gonna hurt the thing. But the thing was so stoned that you couldn't be mad at him. He was just like and you know how Ferrets are? They're like,   like, they move their body and they they play and act silly, and he was like   like, I can't jump and be cute, but look, I'm still cute.  

[03:47:36] Unknown:

So stoned right now, bro.   I had a ferret,   and her name was Spaz.   You know, because ferrets are spastic. You know? And Very good. If you didn't if you didn't pick her up and if you didn't you'd take a hit, she'd climb up all on you.   And if you didn't hold her and let her put her head in her in your mouth so she'd get, like, this real full, deep shotgun,   if she would deal with your bag of weed   and take off with it if you did that either. Man. She's trying to help me out here. Yeah.   Yeah. And then also,   she would if I used to drink, because I make some ever clear occasionally, and I'd make this app apple pie ever clear.   And if I didn't take and fucking   poor little cat firmer, then she'd get so pissed off and she'd steal a bunch of my stuff. And if you were eating pizza and you didn't either give her a piece of crust or a pepperoni or something, she'd steal the whole piece of pizza. She was real funny about it. If you shared with her, she's cool. But if you didn't share with her, she's like, fuck you. I'm taking all your shit.  



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Tricksters. To me, they're they're the most mercurial,   mammal.   I mean, there might be one that's more mercurial, but I don't know.   Ferrets and weasels got a a particular vibe about them. Have you ever seen them poop? They always shove their ass in the corner? I mean, if you owned them, it's I've never owned them, but I know lots of people are. It's so funny. And they make this special thing that's like a triangle that sticks out of the corner, which to me is really funny because, of course, the ferret goes and shows its ass in the corner that's created by the corner, you know, by the triangle. It's like so, I mean, I guess you solved your problem. It didn't poop directly into the corner, but now you've established   2 corners where there was 1.  



[03:49:27] Unknown:

My favorite poopers are the pit bulls. I don't understand what their deal is, but they will balance on their poops on top of things.  

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Yeah. My pug does it. My pug shoves his ass all the way into a bush   and like then looks he I think he's like a different mechanism in his DNA. He's like, alright. I'm a a small dog. Like, that's the only time he's aware that he's a small dog.   Every time he's as big as as a Great Dane, but you know what? Horrible when I'm pooping.   Strinks down to the actual size. You know? And then Yeah. My big dog does it too. He he put his outside on the   street Yeah. Again, like, it'll   it'll stick to the wall and stuff. Like, I've embarrassed that you had to, like, clean the wall. Like, what are you doing? You can't just hang your poop off the wall like graffiti.  

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That's messed up, man. Every time we walk by that street light, he goes over and trots by it, smells it with a big sword. Did that.  

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My theory is for the pond, the the the rich little old ladies that were involved in breeding them way back   in the day, trained them to fertilize   the, the shrubberies,   you know, like, so you don't have to deal with it. Like, you know, shove your ass all the way up in there because they'll put their legs up into a pot. They'll let their back leg up into the pot and shove his butt way up in there. And it's like, so I think way back in the day, they trained him. You know? We want you to be said loyalty when you have pitbulls. This is a fucking this tracks. This is a legitimate story.  

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This   tracks.  

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Because they know they're royalty. Like, have you ever been around pugs? They don't have any they're like, what? We're designed to lay around with you and do nothing and be really cute and awesome. And we don't really wanna move around a lot if that's okay. We don't mind going for a walk on a nice day,   but we're not gonna go hunting or something. Some of them are. Some of them are trained for digging and hunting, but I think our female comes from that line because she's I say she has a feral heart.  

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Pitbulls were the pitbulls were the babysitters for your kids and then pugs were your lapdogs.  

[03:51:33] Unknown:

Yeah. If you jump the fence, you get the pit bulls. If you come in the house, you get a pug.  

[03:51:38] Unknown:

Yeah. I think I think Freya actually got high tonight. I think she was she   was high all day.   She had they like to take in our dab rags, and she they'll eat them sometimes.   Brian's dog's real bad about it. She really likes it. Tier Tier liked it for, like, 4 years. He would get stoned at every chance he could get.   And living in Northern California   and having free range animals, that's a lot of chances.   Yeah. My neighbor used to call me about it. Like, I think your animals are over here eating my pot.   Sorry.   I don't think I I don't know if the alpacas get stoned off it, but Buddy ate a whole plant of mine one time. And then I came out, and he was, like, rolling in the plant's carcass.  

Right? You fucker, buddy.  

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I just shared the database   to make,   and it it you know, with the full extrapolation and details and anecdotal information like,   will this animal get stoned? Yes or no?   How do they get stoned? Like, if you just blow smoke in their general direction? Yes? No? Do you have to blow it right up their nose? Yes? No? If they eat it, yes? No? Does it have to be cooked in and attach itself to the to the oil of the food, or can they just eat the plant raw? Yes? No? That would be a good database to have in general. You know? Well, I know rabbits can smoke it because I had a daughter,  

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and that was the first animal I ever purposely would get by. Can you imagine a rabbit with a little tiny bone like Oh, dude. It was crazy. So it was my kids weren't adults yet, So I used to hide be you know, that I smoke pot. And I'd go out in the garage and I'd shut the door. And my daughter had fucking 4 h rabbits out there.   And this one rabbit would get so pissed off if I wouldn't blow smoke in its cage, and it's like fucking   fashion the cage and shit.  

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And finally, I'm like, fine.  

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Jesus Christ. And I blow smoke it and get rabbits like, oh, yeah.   Thank you. And I had a brother. My brother, his iguana used to do that and would ram his cage until my brother would do it. And then when my brother would take the hit, the iguana would stick his fucking fan out like that, and then he blows the cloak at him. The iguana would sit there, catch it all, and then it kinda   and, like, my daughter was so mad because she found out then she she comes out in the garage.   And she's like, are you fucking giving my rabbit high, dad?   And I'm like, your rabbit freaks out if I don't. And so I let her I went in there to go get high the next day, and it brought her in there with me. And as I sparked up the joint freaking, that rabbit lost its shit. She's like,   okay.  



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Yeah. Yeah. Well, this is this is the big that's the anecdotal data. Like, do you believe in,   reincarnation? Yes? No? And you click yes, and then it dumps you into the speculative reasons why we think this rabbit. The other rabbit's like, you know, I don't really want a bee stone. Leave me alone. Yeah. But this guy,   you know, maybe he used to smoke a lot of hash when he was a china man back in the day or whatever.   So he got a lot of   don't leave me out.  

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Scotty don't like getting stoned. Thor, my other pit bull, he hated it. Hated it. Freya likes it, and,   Luna likes it, and  

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Tyr likes it. Oh, yeah. I've definitely been around animals that, like, somebody thinks, you know, oh, they know their dog is stoned, so they try to get this dog stoned, and that dog has a panic attack and goes ablaze in the corner and tries to let it wear off. Like, what'd you do to me, man? I'm not into this. You know? It's not my thing.  

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Here here, you could tell it through his balance, and so he was constantly doing this.   Like, you know, like, he you know, like and and and, like, he's on a ship or something. You know? Like, only he's not   off balance.   And the worst part is is I dosed him on purpose   and a real heavy dose because we were in,   Modesto,  

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and there was some gangsters. That's a good reason to take a dose.  

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Right. Well, there were some gangsters down in Modesto, and they had this pit bull that they taught to be a fighting pit bull.   And it broke into the backyard of the house that I was at.   And that dog   I turned around and I they I see them getting ready to go at it and I turned around and yelled, hey. And my dog, because my dogs are trained well, he pulled back and that dog grabbed him right by the fucking throat   and had him and it tore his fucking ear, had him by throat. I ended up having to stab that dog to death because I could not get it off my dog. That was horrible.   Yeah. Real bad   night. But,   I had to sew his ear.  

It says His ear wouldn't stop bleeding, so I had to sew the fucking thing shut. So I dosed him with a whole bunch of dabs until he got so fucked up he couldn't hardly move, and then I sold his ear,   you know, and gave me a whole suture.  

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I've told people that that, you know, if you have edibles on hand, if if you, you know, if you have to put your pet into a lethargic state,   you know, it'll work. I mean, it's ideal to go to the vet or to at least have somebody knowledgeable like my mom who's a wound care specialist.   You know? But if you're in an emergency and all you could do is suture it closed, I mean, it's better than what else are you gonna do? If you applied pressure for 20 or 30 minutes, you know, you can only press so hard for so long if it's not gonna stop. If it's an artery or something, it's not gonna stop.   You have to do something. I mean, I and you don't wanna cauterize it unless you absolutely have to. That's really dangerous. Yeah. You damn straight. That that's a bad deal. You're definitely killing nerves and fucking up other areas where you're not guarantee.  

You know? You're not guaranteeing that it's gonna work the way you think, and it's not.  

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And I gotta tell you, it's it's you know, as long as you're cleanly,   it's really not that hard. If you look up, if you look up a surgeon's knot, it's a very easy knot   to make. And all you do is you just take the needle and you just you you know, if you look, you can see the layers of skin, and you wanna get all the skin, but not be digging into muscle and shit. You know? Because you and you want it to be just far enough back that it holds, but you don't want it to make a big old crease.  

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Yeah. You know? And it's it's it's not hard. It really is back to the common common sense idea. You know? If you have some common sense, there's a lot of things you can do. If you don't, then maybe you should get someone else to do that.  

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And and really, the surgeon's not the way a surgeon not works not a surgeon's not works, you can make it super loose,   and it's made so it will only go one way. So you can pull the the little,   strings this way, and it'll tighten up, but it won't back up. And so you what you do is is you do the whole,   the whole wound   at once, and then you go back and you almost zipper it. So you can get it just perfect and get them right on top of each other, and you just basically go zip, zip, zip, zip.   Like, there's times, especially when if you're doing animal husbandry,   like, there's times that baby will rip the whole damn animal and all her guts will come out and weird shit, and you gotta you gotta put someone into it. Like, I've literally stuck animals' guts back inside them and sewed that shit back together.  

Like, you gotta do what you gotta do.   You know?  

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Well, but to me, this all ties back to what you were saying. It's a weave back to the idea that,   if you remove money, the financial system, as the foundational   position that you exist on,   then all of this stuff becomes   a lot more obvious and reasonable,   and it doesn't have to be applied only in an emergency situation. It can be just like, well,   I'm the one in charge of the cow giving birth,   and so I have to be ready for whatever's gonna happen next, and the likeliness that I'm gonna call my vet is 0.   Like, I'm not gonna I mean, unless there's a chance that I've tried everything and the animal's still alive and I don't wanna kill it to to put it out of its misery, Okay. Now maybe at that point, I'll consider bringing in someone with even more expertise than me. But And chances are if the birth went that well, like, 95%  

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chance that that calf did not make it. You know?   That's just a fact. And it's it's something you gotta get through. Like, like, even if you own a if you own the difference between a cow and a heifer, heifer hasn't had a baby. They aren't worth near as much because you only got a 50% chance of even the cow. It's like there's only a 50% chance of that calf living,   and the chance of the cow living through it is only like 70%.   Like, there's a cows, a lot of lives die in that first birth or in the the very least the calf does.   And you wanna talk about some some loving and caretaking and determination   when you're trying to pull a calf out of a heifer that's fucking dead. You know, the calf's dead for sure, and you you're up at 3 o'clock in the morning with with other people that you had to go beg help out of with chains literally. And I've been through this. Just I just went through this 2 years ago, 3 years ago with,   was it Sunshine's Calf or Lola's?  

Either Sunshine or Lola.   And,   I had a chain on one leg. I had the chain on the calf's head because it was dead, so we had just put a chain around its head.   We had one one, person on one chain on one leg and another person on another chain on another leg, And all 3 of us fucking yanking for everything we were worth to try and get that calf out of that cow so the cow didn't die.   Yeah. See, look at this. Shape. That's terrifying.  

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It's very similar to, like, the most common knot you would tie anyway. You know?  

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It is. It's damn near it's damn near a square knot. You just have to do the other side. Once it's like it's reversed to a square knot. Right.   And other other net and the thing is, you can easily tell whether you've done a square knot or a surgeon's knot because the square knot doesn't do that slide thing. If you pull them up if you pull them, the loops will close, and it'll quit moving. Where a surgeon's knot, it'll keep sliding. And if it doesn't do that, you just gotta reverse one of them loops. Does this apply to extension cords?   No. Don't tie knots in your extension cords like that.  

Okay.  

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You gotta remember. I gotta chime in here and say, you gotta remember that Balderson is an actual electrician  

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journeyman   electrician,   like and I'm a foreman journeyman,  

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not just, you know, like, I can run an industrial job site. Like Yeah. If we gotta wire up the skyscraper that they just built and the guy quit, Ben could do it.   He doesn't want to probably, but he could do it. Not anymore.  

[04:02:45] Unknown:

It's not bad work. You know, we get paid better than everybody else, but   I don't want I don't like going work for other people. I just don't like it.   But if I was gonna do something, like, if the farm was failing, that is what I would do a 100%.   I mean, mechanic work is I like being a mechanic, but   it don't pay near  

[04:03:06] Unknown:

a lot harder on your body and a lot less pain. You gotta keep it a secret you're a mechanic. That's good advice that I'll give anybody right now. If you know how to wrench on things, don't tell anybody.   Yeah. Just use it for you and your mom and your wife or your, you know, your daughter, and that's good enough. It's coming to weird advantages lately, like, with this whole fucking  

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retarded,   jets run on air thing. I'm an actual turbine mechanic. I the army fucking I was a 62 bravo in the army.   Again, I was trained to work on,   tracked vehicles   and construction equipment. That's what we are, construction equipment, tracked vehicle. So tracked vehicles includes turbines.   M nine aces, m one Abrams, all those things run off the same fucking engine that will not run off air. It's a fucking combustion engine that I know how it works.   And suddenly, I'm, like, on the weird opposite end of the conspiracy world, like,   I'm not appealing to a I'm just a greasy mechanic, and you're wrong.  

This is dumb.  

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And I Well, they I don't even know what to do. That stuff so that people have something to do, but it's back to the once again, weaving back to what? You know, we'd have to establish definitions of terms   well enough   that everybody understands what all the parts and what they do and what they mean. And, yes, that includes however, there's a fuel tank and the fuel lines and where they go and where the fire comes. There's only 3 things that make any engine work, and it's fuel and spark. Usually, you gotta have some kind of a battery or power source.   Okay? So we're gonna have to look at the I don't know understand how a turbine works, so you're gonna have to explain a little bit because you're gonna go the thing with the turbine is the thing with the turbine is that's a super heavy torque engine. That's part of why they use them in the applications that they do.  



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That engine is throwing out torque like you wouldn't believe.   So where they're coming in is they try they think that the engine's running off a compressed air.   Because in an aircraft and in a and in a tank a lot of times,   because that engine takes so much torque to get it turning,   that   the starter that it would take if you were using an electric starter   would draw so much that the battery bank would have to be ginormous.   Right. And so now you're trying to carry this ginormous battery bank.   Well, instead,   they just use air, compressed air to get the engine turning like the starter of any engine, and then the compression takes over once it's turning. Because if you just go directly to compression,   which it can't do that, you've gotta it's a whole it's gotta suck the fucking the vaporized fuel in, pull it out, blah blah blah. But if you were able to somehow go from 0   to combustion,   the torque on the crankshaft   would be so great. You'd rip your crankshaft to shit. It would twist off. It would just twist off. Yeah. So you get it moving ahead of time. This is honestly no different than the model a where you went out and cranked the front of the fucking vehicle to get the the engine turning so combustion would take over. And that's literally what they're claiming is running the aircraft.  

It's dumb as fuck.  

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Well, you know, there's some cool engines that you can start with a 12 gauge shotgun shell. And theoretically, you could start your turbine that way. But like you said, it's just gonna rip itself apart. You'd need a hell of a bomb to make it go whomp enough to turn over. But  

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Yeah. And on those old tractors, the parts on them, if you ever check them out because that's a tractor that Sean's talking about with it start with a shotgun shell.   The fucking like, the crank shaft fucking arms on those were like this.   I mean Yeah. That thing was like a goddamn solid steel baseball bat. You're like It's a tractor.   Yeah. Yeah. You know, that thing that's underneath the handle Okay. Like the engines, the weight of the engines that we're having to try and put in these vehicles, it would have to weigh, like, 50 times what the engine that we have to run. People don't think about what a tractor is, you know. Okay. So you wanna drive  

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in mud   and you also wanna pull something behind you that's buried in the ground.   So you then you okay. So you have a different application. It's not like driving a car.   You know, it has to have a completely different   strategy for what you're gonna use it for. It's not like a car at all.  

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Take your kids to tractor pulls this summer.  

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No. Turbines   lack cooling because,   they don't need it. So with a typical engine,   it's it's   more of an in line pressure   and your the combustion is going in line. Where with a a turbine, you're working more on the,   similar to the way,   not a magnetism,   but the   the other field where it kinda just goes like that and kinda just pushes it off to the right.   So common sense already tells you that it's much harder to take an energy and push direct rather than just pinch it than just take it off to the side. It works more like a torque converter   where,   people a lot of people don't realize in an automatic transmission,   there's nothing directly   engaging the engine to the to the ground. So what's in between is is called a torque converter. And a torque converter is a plate, and it's got another plate. And this takes transmission fluid   and throws it at this plate, which creates a friction, which then depending on how much that's pushing, then pushes that plate,   which engages into the transmission, which then drives the tires.  

So the   the with the similar with to, like, a torque converter, it's not really trying to do a direct push. It's trying to, like, may it's trying to do, like, a   45 degree, like, off   push and like a circular.   And so it doesn't have that direct confrontational   heat the same way.  

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So bottom line,   get those dumb conspiracy theories out of your mind.   That's where we live.