206 sex dolls, 7 Sacrificial chickens, 1 syringe of GRAVY
Streamed live on May 6, 2023
Special Guest https://themeltpodcast.net/
Start with a humorous and surreal discussion about gravy, quickly transition into deeper conversation about psychedelic experiences and the impact of visual and auditory stimuli. Explore the concept of mental health and the fine line between conspiracy theories and reality, touching on the influence of media and societal norms.
Our guests, Chris and Hunter from The Melt Podcast, share their unique perspectives on conspiracy culture, mental health, and the importance of genuine human connections. We also discuss the implications of AI and sex dolls on human relationships, the role of trauma in shaping our experiences, and the importance of maintaining integrity in the face of societal pressures. The episode concludes with a reflection on the recent coronation of King Charles, the symbolism behind it, and the broader implications for society.
Streamed live on May 6, 2023
Special Guest https://themeltpodcast.net/
- Gravy, True Conspiracies, and Mental Health
- Exploring Conspiracies and Human Connections with The Melt Podcast
- AI, Sex Dolls, and the Freaky Future of Human Relationships
- King Charles' Coronation: Implications of Ol' Sausage Fingers
- From Gravy to Integrity: Goldilocks Did Nothing Wrong
Start with a humorous and surreal discussion about gravy, quickly transition into deeper conversation about psychedelic experiences and the impact of visual and auditory stimuli. Explore the concept of mental health and the fine line between conspiracy theories and reality, touching on the influence of media and societal norms.
Our guests, Chris and Hunter from The Melt Podcast, share their unique perspectives on conspiracy culture, mental health, and the importance of genuine human connections. We also discuss the implications of AI and sex dolls on human relationships, the role of trauma in shaping our experiences, and the importance of maintaining integrity in the face of societal pressures. The episode concludes with a reflection on the recent coronation of King Charles, the symbolism behind it, and the broader implications for society.
(00:00:00) Start
(00:22:06) Welcome to the Melt Podcast Guests
(00:23:32) Conspiracy Theories and Personal Histories
(01:00:00) Discussion on Sex Dolls and AI
(01:09:22) what if the ai acts like a woman?
(02:00:00) Mental Health and Societal Issues
(02:14:14) gravy break
(03:00:00) Royalty and Conspiracy Theories
(04:00:00) Community Integrity and Personal Responsibility
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Alright. We are live. You guys are asking what is gravy?
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A different question. What is gravy?
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I wanna know what gravy is. Who's got the gravy boat tonight?
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I got a green gravy boat. You want me to go grab it?
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Yeah. I got it. Water, green, and gravy boat. You wanna go grab it? Water, green, gravy boat.
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This gravy boat is the admiral of my gravy navy.
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Gravy navy. Yeah. So this is the part where we come on live. All of a sudden, the few fans that are ready and waiting get to see this strange little moment before Alan Marcus makes some kind of announcement that we're gonna be zooming off into an introductory video that if you have recently taken mushrooms or LSD or you have, what do they call that? Where the when blasting things make you have a a reaction. Epilepsy. If you have epilepsy Oh, yes. I might be already called out. May or or both. If you've done both, it's a good time to, and what I do is I'll enjoy the visual, but sometimes I'll take the ear earphones, put them down to the neck because Alan Marcus and our friend Chris from the King of Cups usually produce this thing to be it's psychedelic, man. It's far out. So but it is an opportunity to promote the show to your friends and family if you feel safe doing that, to run and grab a beverage or a snack, use the restroom, or any other thing you might wanna do, like close the window on your parrot so that he can't hear him in the background or any of those type of things. So Or grab your LSD and mushrooms. Yeah. I mean, they won't kick in before the introduction is up, but if you wanna enjoy this week's episode live of weaving spiders welcome on LSD or mushrooms, we welcome that. I'm personally gonna pass, but if it's your thing, man, go for it.
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I had a nice, mescaline cactus going, but my cats ate it.
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What? The cats ate the mescaline cactus? Now that sounds like an animal horror song.
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What happened to the cat? Yeah. Was there any change in making it?
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The cat turned into their dog in the background.
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Yeah. Yeah. You know, they kinda think they're dogs anyways, the 2 cats that did it. I does. They're like, I think he's a pug. It's hilarious. He can't We have a large viewership of cats. A lot of our viewers will send in videos of their cats glued to the screen, trying to figure out maybe it's because we have a yarn in one of our logos.
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Yeah. Yeah. Ball of yarn that they wanna get to.
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We have a lot of fun metaphors that we explore.
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I have a pug right there, but I'm just trying to achieve it right now. So the pugs Oh, wait. And you guys say you have pugs? Am I remembering correctly? Yeah. Yeah. Awesome.
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Both deaf, one blind and deaf. And both, of course, since they're pugs, dumb.
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Yeah. My I feel like we were blessed with some pretty smart plugs by, you know, like, I mean, by plug standards. They're they're not brilliant, but they are they can follow instructions. Oh, that's good. You know? Yeah. They only rarely run into thing, which is pretty funny.
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We have a puddle in the house. It's not better.
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Yeah. This is a rock.
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It's like a pug with energy.
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Oh, we got an extra Yeah. Man.
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He is ready to fight with everything, although everything could beat him up.
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We love animals. Yeah. We've had some animal You're right. Imagination.
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Yeah. That's the that's the cat.
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That I That's the masculine cat. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's the cat. Where's the box, and where's Schrodinger?
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You know what? I don't know what great, man. I am stoked to have this the box, and I beat that dude up for locking a cat in it. Freaking
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Yeah. Schrodinger would definitely be canceled if he was, coming out this year. Right? That's true.
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Yes.
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Let's see. Is this the Robert Anton Wilson reading group? A tree a trigger warning.
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Cosmic trigger? Exactly.
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Does the melt come with a reading list or recommended reading list?
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You know, we don't have a reading list. We should do that. We should. It's a great idea, actually. Yeah. I know, if you're a a member like I am of the Patreon, there is a chance that you could receive free book, which me being a a book junkie who has a huge library. I actually told myself, like, Sean, let someone else get the book. You have lots of books.
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The pictures of the books you see there have been up there for a long time, so they're totally up for grabs. Yep. We have lots. We love books. Absolutely.
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I vol I volunteer at our local, library so that and they have a bookstore there so that I get first dibs on the books.
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Nice. That is beautiful.
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There's a library right up the road that's that had a sign that said book sale when I drove by, and, you know, and I had that, book addict react. Like, what is that? Exactly. And then I could I could volunteer. And I could actually if I get in good with them, I could say, show me the stuff that you guys think is taboo nowadays and that you're throwing out. Exactly. And, we'll just put that all right in the back of my car. I've got a tab we can get into a little bit here. I haven't read it yet because I don't want to, but this is,
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Who's Sleeping in Your Head, The Secret World of Sexual Fantasies, and the author is from the esteemed Tavistock Institute. So that's a little teaser. Oh, I of it. Actual Tavistock books. I love it. Do they have their own press? I would imagine they do. Yeah. I think they do. We'll we'll get into that on the other side when it's a little safer.
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We're just Yeah. I have a sure all the passengers are onboard. Reading level book about the actual founding of the state of Israel that I recommend to people because it's actually telling the truth.
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That's that's before the that's before the video. We gotta we gotta talk about Doja Cat and, MTV Music Awards and all the relevant topics and the funniest TikTok you've seen this week.
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Didn't we already do Doja Cat this year? No. That was that was that,
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other person. What was her name? She sings about starships being meant to fly, but that was 10 years ago. So we gotta stay current with the culture. Otherwise, we're not gonna be interested in that. Too many times already. I know this.
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Well, she's the one that puts red crystals all over her bosom and face, isn't she? So, yeah, we definitely touched on it because, you know, if you make yourself look like,
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well, that Yes. Well, we we are aware of Balenciaga.
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Yes. No worries. Unfortunately, we're all aware.
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When the system falls, I will have words with them.
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Wait wait till the system falls. I like that plan. That's a good idea. Wait till the system falls, please.
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Well, the plan I Please. The plan I have is we're gonna bathe ourselves in a little, sound bath of David Bowie, if that's alright with all of you. Yeah. I'm ready. This will be about 13 minutes, and then we'll get the show started. Know what? My daughter did that with labyrinth enough. I'm gonna mute.
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It's good. There's no there's no music in West France. Some of you still like Bowie. Yeah. Well, no. Ball Ball doesn't got a point. If you were subjected to young children having to mark things redundantly on VA 2 or 8, if someone brings it up, you might have to defer away from it regardless of the context. Alright. I can respect Balderson busting the glass balls a boy. That's totally okay. My alright. My brother, Zach, did it with the, Michael Jackson, The Wiz. We watched the last VHS tape, like, a 100 and 50 times. I still enjoy it, but for a while, I took, like, 7 or 8 years off of watching. Dude, the flying monkeys on the motorcycles are rad. I don't know. It's a great movie. I've never seen it. But, anyway, I'm gonna stop interrupting you. Go ahead. Let's go. BN13.
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This thing.
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Imagine imagine
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Up until 1 century ago, there lived in the Zaiduang province of an eastern country, a glass like spider. Having devoured its prey, it would drape the skeletons over its web, in weeks creating the macabre of a shrine of remains. Its web was also unique in that it had many layers, like floors of the building.
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It gives them the assignment to build this house.
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At the top of this palace like place, assembled with almost apparent care, were tiny, shining objects, glass, beads, dewdrops. One could almost call it an altar. When the breeze blew through this construction, it produced sounds of wailing, crying, tiny wails, tiny cries.
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A vast, vast spider swept that is the whole cosmos.
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This idea with the ghost below
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helped me don't change.
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The baby spiders would get scared and search frantically for their mother. But the glass spider would have long gone having known that the babies would survive somehow on their own. Oh, the glass spider had blue eyes almost like a human's. They shed tears at the winter turn of centuries.
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And Indra's net net net net.
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And each jewel reflects every other pair of shoes.
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And the spiders, and the spiders, and the spiders. Where were the spiders? 5
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And each jewel reflect with every owner to yours.
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Never let me down. Indra. Indra. And that's the God of heaven. Indra is in charge of this massive web. It almost looks like a sire web. A massive web. It almost looks like a sire web. And this right here is a representation of the web of Indra. And Indra's web is really special because there are some there are some jewels on it. Do you see the the jewels that are on the on the web? On Indra's web, there are an infinite number of jewels.
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And, there was a time when a great monster, named Bootstrap had they closed all the waters of the earth. And so there was this drought, terrible drought. Well, it took this card in drop quite a while to realize that he had his box of thunderbolts there, and all he had to do is drop the thunderbolts and put John on them and blow them up. And when he did that, the car seat moved up, and the water flowed as the world was refreshed. Then he says, what a great boy am I am I. No injure before you. He has a beer. Such a cow. Yes. Brahman opens his eyes. The world is governed by an angry. Closing his eyes.
In Victor, I'm making what is with boy and I and down they go. And with this set of instructors, Indra gives up this idea of going out becoming a Yogi, and finds that in life, he can
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the
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So Idris Webb reminds us of the importance and interconnectedness. We are all connected to each other in this web. Each one of these jewels represents a person's life form. And whenever we are kind, we rebuild the web. We make it stronger
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than it was before.
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We all each are one of those gems on the net.
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We got some good boys in chat tonight.
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You seeing those dogs in the chat?
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Good day.
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Then he said, why don't you say, why am I? He said we had some good boys in chat tonight.
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Welcome to the post introduction segment of Weaving Spider's welcome number $213, sacrificial chickens, 1 syringe of gravy.
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Who approved that title?
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Oh, Jim approved it, technically, when he pushed the button. Was there a committee of 300 that decided upon that? The committee of 300. They ran it by a round table in Rome, and here we are. We'd like to welcome Chris Knight and Hunter Muse of the, reasonably well known and famous Melt podcast Yes. In the episode Yay. Of Weaving Spriters. Welcome. They were so gracious as to court me for one of their Patreon only episodes. And then after that and I reported back here to the spider gang, and we thought, hey. Well, let's let's manifest this into reality. And, alas, here we are. Now it's literally happening before our very eyes through this wonderful inter Spider Man. Yeah. We get all credit and all almost kind regards to all the various Spider Men in all of the different, multiverses,
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if you believe in a multiverse. We just listened to a David Bowie ballad together, so you know it's
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real. You can feel the love. That was an interesting
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juxtaposition of it. Speak for yourself.
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If there's one goal for the show tonight, it's interesting juxtapositions, thoughts that have not been thought and spoken aloud before. Absolutely. So with that, welcome, Melt.
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Thank you, Melt. Thanks for having us. Thank you. Yes. Let's melt together, guys. Here. Here.
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Yes. So I guess a great place to start, and I don't think I've ever asked you guys, would be, how it was that, you know, kind of, like, boilerplate conspiracy fair. Like, how did this happen to you? You're no longer in the category of normies in any in any quality at all. You're now over in the other category of non normies. Did did it happen slowly over time? Like, my farthest back memory personally was, like, in college in 98, probably. I chose there was a class where you had to learn how to use the Internet and the regular research library, and I chose the subject of the relationship between the largest bank in the world and the poorest people in the world, and I never really recovered from the evidence that I found. And I did fall back asleep and wake up a few times and kind of put it in the back burner, but so I'm definitely curious to hear how you guys ended up in this,
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peeking the tree, whatever we wanna call it. I heard that Hunter Muse's mother may have been a Rosicrucian.
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My mother was a Rosicrucian. That. Oh, fascinated. Okay. My grandfather was, one of the founders of the NSA. Wow. Really? I kind of came about that? I it's a generational thing in my family. He was in the navy. He was a career navy man and a 31st degree mason. And so I kinda cut my teeth on conspiracy as a child with my mom talking about MK Ultra and JFK assassination being something that was, executed by the CIA. No pun intended.
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And And,
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you know, so I I just kinda grew up in this world. My dad was a professional wrestler, and so I traveled the world as a child and was kind of always the new kid. And so I was able to kind of understand the the entrenched idea of, consensus reality and how people are really, really indoctrinated into that in the school system from the time I was in kindergarten. So I think I've never not been in the conspiracy world.
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Wow. That's a great answer. Now is your dad someone we would recognize? Because I was a pretty big wrestling fan when I was a kid.
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Well, Jesse Ventura's first wrestling match was against my father. And he The governor of Minnesota? Yes. Yeah. He yeah. My dad's name is Omar Atlas. He was mister excitement. Imagine trying to date me in high school. So he had several iterations of names. And I think this also played into my whole conspiracy, being conspiracy friendly because naming and names were something that were very fluid in my family. So he was Buddy Silver Wolf when he was in India and he went to Australia and became a American Indian. Omar Negro.
This is the racist South that he
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wrestled in. Highly inventive too. Yeah. That's that's almost as good as Mark Twain's. Yeah. Exactly.
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Gym. Oh, Omar Negro. That was his wrestling name.
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Uh-huh. Was he a black magician?
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It sounds like it. It sounds like he was a Saudi magician.
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A brand of chewing tobacco back in the 40s that had stopped it.
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Exactly.
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I'm sorry. I'm Gordy. I I'm I came in late, so it's good to meet you guys. Likewise. My my father-in-law was also a Ross Christian
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and And a wrestler.
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Not a wrestler. He was a he, but he was a very interesting guy, like, a very, like, closeted, mystic and real and my wife realized after we'd gone through all the all of his Roskrucian books, all of his, all the the the library that he kinda left that was hidden under their their house. Like, I was the only one that was possibly in the family gonna be interested in this stuff. Right? Right. Thank God. It was me that found it. Right? Yeah. We are going through this stuff and out comes these cards out of 1 of the, O'Field books, I think. Mhmm.
And, and they were like those psychic cards, those psychic training cards. And my wife was like, oh my god. I remember that. My dad used to do that with with us, me and my my brother. And her brother's, like, he he could remote view pretty well, I guess, but my wife is, like, really good at it. And I think he was kind of training her Absolutely. As a child to to get into that. And so it's been it's been really interesting going through all that this family lore too. Gordy, was it the Kreskin's ESP kit? Yes.
Like handing hypno mentalist videos.
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Yeah. We had those cards, and she was a a member of the Eastern Star. In in Kansas City, Kansas of all places.
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Wow. There were pockets of Roscrucian,
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churches and organizations all over the United States, and she fell into this one in Kansas City, Kansas. And what was fascinating about it is that when we were little, she used to have us do seances.
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Really?
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Yeah. And, you know, now when I look back, I'm like, what the fuck? Why am I doing this shit? And, like, 5 years old, I'm doing a seance with my mom, you know, trying to conjure up those spirits and stuff, but I always had a psychic ability. So Yeah. I had a ability to predict deaths, and she was just never tried to tamp any of that stuff down. It was just always Very cool. Something that was a muscle. You know, I had imaginary friends and, you know, people that I talked to, and she always really encouraged that. And I never really understood if that was connected to the MK Ultra stuff or, you know, her father and his relationship with the NSA or if it was just her own curiosity.
I think kind of a combo platter.
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We are a curious group, and I often share my strange childhood where I say my dumb psychic gift was being able to dream of the Where's Waldo book. And then in the next day of school, during our, quiet reading time, this my neighbor and I would go in the corner. We'd open the Where's Waldo book that I agreed that I'd never seen before except I'd seen it in my dream. So he'd flip the page. I put my finger right on wallow without even, you know, examining it and be like, there he is. And he'd be like, yeah, you're right. And do it again. I'd do, like, 3 times in a row. I'd be like, what are you doing, man? You're cheating. I'm like
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You kinda look like a Harry Waldo.
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Yeah. That's it. Harry Waldo is a good wrestler name. I've I've been called that at that at Renaissance
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Festivals indeed. I like it. Do you have a striped shirt, sweater that you wear? No. I don't wanna I do, but it's not about me tonight. It's about Anton Mount. You wanna give me a fighting chance, SP? Well, I mean, I know that you'll dive in here.
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I'm not. You know? But I I I am curious. It's the truth. It's more of a selfish motive that I've I I wanna give, Hunter props for, giving one of the most astounding answers I've think I've ever heard to this question because it's not every day that someone's like, well, my family were Rosicrucians and Masons and professional wrestlers, and I think I've been doing conspiracy stuff. As a matter of fact, I can remember being in seances when I was age 5, like, woah. What? Fucking cool and trippy,
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that blows my mind. And I've gotta follow that because his mind's totally lame. The anticlimax is fine here. Yeah. Goodness. Thank goodness. Are you holding space for me? Absolutely. We're there's a space in this web for you. Thank you. My god. I'm I've it's a long time coming. I had nothing no special colorful characters in my family or anything like that. I was just always drawn to weird stuff, stuff that caught my attention. In Search of by Leonard Nimoy and these books that you would get, they were, like, compilations of very short stories, and I can't think of the names of any of them. I've been trying to look them up because I'd love to acquire them again, but they would have stories of supposedly true things that happened that always just fascinated the hell out of me. Like, I remember one of them was supposedly in England, in the probably 19 forties or something like that.
There was reported after a night of really, really heavy snow, hoof prints were discovered, over a span of, like, a 100 miles, And, they were uninterrupted. They would go up walls, over roofs, down, like, just they seem to defy gravity. And that shit just fascinated the hell out of me. But I also had I mean, I never think to connect these two things. But I had a couple of strange experiences when I was growing up. One of them was when I was, every summer, I would spend a week at my grandma and my step grandpa's house, and they would let me stay up and eat ice cream and watch Johnny Carson and do adult shit that I They do. Not not not nonconsensual adult shit. Not appropriate adult shit. Like, watch Johnny Carson.
And, and I remember I was sitting on my grandma's lap. We were watching Johnny, and I was probably having a drumstick or something like that. And, there I could see from where I was at, there was the TV, and then there was a a doorway going into what was another bedroom. And then I could through that doorway, I could see another doorway that went to yet another bedroom. I was sitting there, and I look over because I hear some kind of like, the doorknob rustling or something like that. The door opens, and this figure comes through with a flashlight, And it's shining it around the room, shining it at me, shining it around the room that it just walked into.
And I'm like, grandma, grandma, look look over there. Do you do you see that? Do you see this person with the flashlight? And she doesn't know what I'm talking about. She can't see what I'm seeing. So I was, like, a little concerned about it. And then finally, I don't I don't remember anything after that. I I don't remember that that situation coming to some kind of closure. I just remember not thinking about it anymore. So what the fuck that was, I don't know, but I think it must have instilled in me that there are things that lurk in the shadows and things that are in the cracks and crevices that aren't explainable, that don't that maybe everybody doesn't see. So I started to seek that stuff out, and I really haven't had a litany of experiences like that, but I've always been drawn to people that have had those experiences, and I love reading books about people's research and and their experiences with, quote, unquote, abductions and everything. I'm just drawn to that stuff, and that gradually led me to the world of conspiracy because, I mean, they go hand in hand. You know? Right. Right. You read about all these other worldly things, and then you're like, wait. There there's some of these other worldly things that are connected to worldly things, like and maybe they have something to do with the way that the world runs or the way that the world conducts its affairs, so that just kinda naturally led into conspiracy, which was probably in the nineties when I discovered that, and then I was just kind of a solo adventurer and an avid consumer of that information, and but I hadn't I never had anybody to talk about it with, really.
The Internet that was before the Internet, and then AOL came along, got into chat rooms with people talking about UFOs and shit like that, which was great. They were real life people I could actual supposedly real life people I could chat with this stuff about. And then, you know, I I just basically, it was just a fascination that I I had to to keep to myself because I'd never run ran into anybody in my real life that, was into that stuff. And, and then Hunter comes along and kind of awakens that in me. I'd I'd let it go dormant for a while. I put it to sleep. I think you said something like that. Yeah. Because it just didn't seem to have any place. Like, it didn't do any good to try and bring it up in conversation, because people would just either roll their eyes or go, dude, come on.
Are you do you have you seen the Mets game? Like, I don't get to talk about the Mets.
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So No. That's perfect. People do defer to politics, sports, the weather.
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Exactly. Especially dudes, especially guys. Unfortunately, they expect you to speak guy, and I'm not very I'm not fluent in guy at all, unfortunately. Anyway, so about the time actually, it was about 3 or 4 months before Hunter and I actually crossed paths. I started collecting interviews for the melt because I started doing it by myself first, and I had about 3 or 4 in the bag. One of them being Tracy Toyman, and, and then I met her, and I was like, this is all kind of gelling together. Like, this they were happening sort of happening sort of simultaneously, and then we got together, and then things just went haywire. Like, I mean, in a very, very good way. Oh, beautiful. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Because you guys have some pretty amazing guests.
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I encourage people to I I kinda use, your show since I signed up for the Patreon as, like, I'm not very good at this in real life, but I know a lot of people save their yummy treats and candy and sweets. And so instead of just, like, bombing through everything, like, just being a melt addict, it's like, oh, no. I'm gonna wait, and then I'm gonna I I do this thing where I scroll on my phone, and I'll count 1, 2, 3, and let it scroll. And where does it land? Of course. It's a girl. Oh, try that one or whatever it might be. You know? But you guys have a lot of high profile guests. Like Thank you. I think I recently listened to, Randy Maugan for the first time, ironically.
You know, it could be completely doing it backwards to catch Randy Maugins talking to you guys and have never, like, listened to any of his work even Oh. Even the stuff he did with mutual friend. Emily, thank you. Yeah. So but to me, it's also a good introduction. Now I can do everything That's where I recognize him from, Emily.
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Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Off Planet Radio. Fucking great show. Man, fantastic. I can't speak highly enough of that show. Yeah. He talk about having great guests. He's got fantastic guests. Unfortunately, I wanna have some of them on, but they they're the kind of guests that just sort of disappear. They come off and, they fade in and out of reality. And it seems like when I try to find them, they none of their links are live anymore. Like Yeah. Their website is not even doesn't exist. So it's like, did these guests did he make these guests up? Did he any of the history common thing, unfortunately, that people
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people don't always, die or commit suicide or get murdered, but sometimes they just kinda fade away. Exactly. Me and my friend Nikki Repana, who we know did die of natural causes, unfortunately, we used to have a list back in the day of where are they now that was all these kind of people. You know? Mhmm. And the list would be pretty dated nowadays. But back when we were looking at it, these were both people that we had, definitely listened to their content, read their books or blog posts, and may have even interacted with. And it's just,
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like, there's no no lead. You know? Yeah. They just disappear and leave no trail.
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And I always hope for the best that those people just decided that they had done enough Internetting. Yeah. Now they're gonna be away from the Internet because if you push the limit too hard on truth stuff, you do start to get into the deep weeds, and you might get threatened or
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harassed or weird things might start happening. So I've never had that experience myself. Thank god. But if I did, I would probably back off. You know? So, hopefully, that's what it is. Yeah. It's sometimes people just find out that it's not good for your mental well-being to just Yeah. Slowly be deep diving like that. You know, if you're into particular kinds of topics, it can get pretty fucking heavy. And if you're a sensitive person, you can make the world seem like a bleak, horrible place.
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So you gotta get out into the real world and realize Yeah. There's lots of other stuff going on that isn't that negative. It's okay to take breaks from deep, hard topics. You know? A lot of people have to learn to remind themselves to take some breaks. Yes. I recently listened to Ozzy Osbourne's autobiography as a form of taking a break because Yeah. I liked Ozzy when I was young. You know? I mean, I still like him. I don't listen to him much, but Uh-huh. It was, you know, obviously, very light fare by contrast to Yeah. Deeply studying whether or not adrenochrome is real. And if it is, who's using it, you know, etcetera, etcetera. That's for sure. One of one of the highlights
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of SB Elder's career, I think, for me personally as a fan watching, RX Only Pictures show is when he performed the, mister Coley song by Oh, yeah. Black Sabbath, but he replaced the words with Tracy Twyman. Yeah. I'd say that.
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That's great. Oh, I have to look that up. Do you know the episode number?
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I I can find it for you later, but We've replayed it on a past spiders episode. That's kind of the the grab bag of livestream format where we just kinda throw it all in there. Yes. And sometimes folks will help us in our live chat with timestamps and things, but some of the joy is in the discovery and not creating an extensive table of contents for the listener to then kind of, well, do I wanna hear these topics? Well, of course, you do. But do you wanna hear them now? Maybe not. So it's just sort of like hit play, trust the process, we're your best friends, we're gonna give you the best gravy, this sort of thing.
And as Sean's describing, the melt for him is something that is just to be savored. Cool. I like that. Not binged.
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Yeah. Well, so far, no guarantees that I won't decide to listen to 18 hours straight. There's no promises there. So just so you guys know, Gordy has had experiences that are relevant to what you mentioned, Chris. So you might, check out Gordy's I guess the best episode is probably the one that he did with Lindsay Charmin of, Rogue Wave. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's the most plainly biographical one, but I know he's, he's had some experiences in the what would you call it, Gwerty?
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Please don't say sex dolls,
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which now plants that image in our all of our minds.
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Yeah. That makes me that I you know, as much as my brain is trying to conjure oh, you're muted you're muted, bro. We can't hear you. Uh-oh.
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Gordy. There it goes. Now we Okay. Am I here? Uh-oh. Yep. There we are. You're here. I was just I was just, lamenting the lack of of, sex doll Weaving Spider's Welcome merch. I'm coming. Can you get it with a heads up way. Of you on there? On a Exactly.
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So Gordy will send you the clone of Willie kit, and you can clone your Willie. And and then I think we think we can cast that into some bronze perhaps.
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Bronze. So cold. Gonna keep Whenever whenever I hear, sex doll, the only thing I think of is that old ass Melanie Griffith movie before, she completely fell off and disappeared. That was, like, where, that dude is, like, cherry 3000 or something, and then the guy That's amazing. Having sex with this sex doll thing. Yeah. That's what I always picture when somebody says that.
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Yeah. So what have you guys dug up with the, sex dolls in the this whole thing? That's her AI.
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Okay. So I am a McNair Scholar at university, and I have to part of that is be doing a research project. And, oh, a year or so ago, I saw this film called Silicone Soul. And it really struck me because it was about men maybe 2 years ago. It was about men who had had relationships before and the relationships went south. They felt that they couldn't trust women, that women had fucked them over. And so the alternative to just going, you know, and being celibate was to buy one of these dolls. The interesting thing about the doll world is that dolls have been used for 100 of years in different cultures for different reasons.
So like in the Japanese culture, they used dolls as effigies. They made dolls and believed that the doll could hold evil spirits, so they were they considered them good luck. But then there was something in, like, the European, ship world. It was called the Domme de Voyage, and it was a doll that men on ships made, and they would fuck this doll. It was usually made out of, like, women's clothing and then they kind of fashioned a vagina out of it and they would fuck this doll and then pass it around when they went on these long voyages out to sea.
So I think the fascinating thing is that
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this is not an AV.
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Yes. It's not a new a new thing. Like, this has been going on quite literally for 100 and 100 of years. I think the the, new iteration of that, of making it out of silicone and now adding artificial intelligence is a new, aspect of this that's really been happening for probably 20 years in the form that we see it now. You know, there was the gag gift blow up doll
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that was really big in the fifties and the sixties. I did that to my bass player in our high school metal band. I went to the gag gift shop and bought him an inflatable steep that he opened, for his 18th birthday in front of his parents. I you know, in hindsight, maybe a little too heavy metal for the parents being present. But yeah. So
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Yeah. You know? And and I found something interesting in my there's this great book that I have that's called Sex Dolls at Sea. Oh, man. We gotta get that for our our library. Yeah. For sure. It's really incredible. This is an incredible book. And, you know, there's, this other book that I'm reading right now for my project that's called The Age of Perversion, and this is, the woman, doctor Danielle Kanafo. We actually had her on the melt. She's a really fascinating psychoanalyst that's actually in the Silicone Soul film.
And, you know, there's basically like 2 different segments of the population that I'm I'm studying. There's the population of men who just see and I'm saying men because men are primarily the, people who are purchasing these dolls. There's the man who sees the doll as a sex toy and really just uses it as a masturbatory toy. And then there's the man who anthropomorphizes the doll and they see it as a partner. And what's interesting about this man is that they tend and lean more towards, misogyny and they're actually physically abusing the dolls. So they're choking them and beating them and and being really physically aggressive with them. So, you know, the thought is, well, you know, we could give them to people who are sex offenders or or men who have sexual paraphilias that, you know, you don't want them to enact these paraphilias on a human.
And what I posit is that that's just a rehearsal. So you're gonna give that to someone who maybe leans towards pedophilia or some other paraphilia, and it's just gonna make them better at abuse as opposed to, you know, kind of quashing that desire. The 3rd group of people who are in the doll world are women, and they're women like this woman who's written this book Love Doll. And what she does is she takes the dolls and then puts them in different environments and then takes photographs of them.
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And those are life-sized dolls? They're life-sized. They weigh about Yeah. Hyperrealistic.
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Hyperrealistic. They're made out of silicone. They have, like, kind of a metal infrastructure, like a a Barbie where you can bend the arms. But the creepiest part of it is the factory. So you have this factory that have have all these dolls hanging by hooks,
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and they're just you know, it's very like Stepford Wives. Oh, great. Having to hit the big red button. Stop the assembly line. The vaginas are all wrong. Gotta put it back. So bring me that mold. I wanna see. There's something terribly wrong with the process here. And now they make them where you can
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have a interchangeable penis or vagina Of course. Replace the mouth, you know, because they get worn out. They sell them used. I mean, it's so awful.
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Mother's face is just getting better and better the part that we get into.
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So I guess where where I'm at is what I'm interested in is what is the pivot? What is the pivot from you had a bad experience with a woman, you had a bad relationship. Fuck it. I'm just going for the doll. Like, what like Well, there's something about sentience that the doll is never going to have.
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And there are actually dudes with, YouTube channels that they take their doll out shopping, or they take it out to eat, and they introduce the doll to other people. And they're totally unashamed of it. I mean, if you're gonna do it, you might as well just do it. You know? Wasn't it in the in the Blade Runner movie?
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Yes. The AI Yeah. Own it. Mhmm. If you gotta do it, own it. Fuck it. Lovely, Ben. Yeah.
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We've we've discussed this topic a little bit before, and I bring up this idea that, Unico, Unicron became a this this idea of a consent focused robot brothel. So there were these designs for these dolls, lifelike, life-sized dolls. Her thing, though, her unique pitch for, crowdsourced, money, gathering thing was to say, well, we're gonna focus on consent here. Mhmm. So this is not, I pay my money. I can do whatever I want. It's more of a therapeutic thing to say, well, we have chatbots, and we can combine that with, artificial intelligence and that sort of thing. And then you'll text this entity here, this silicone body, and you'll text with her for a while. So you'll learn to seduce her and invite her out on a date. And then before you can actually physically get involved with her, she needs to grant you consent.
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Right. Yeah.
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And who is speaking for her is what I'm what I'm wondering. Well, that's the question. Right. And and how much do you have to pay during this entire lead up is my question. So so who's speaking for and how much do you have to pay? So it's like, you know, as you're trying to get this consent, are you having to pay for this time that you're, like, courting a robot Yes. Yes. Who has no emotions?
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And do any of them ever not give consent?
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No. No. That's a great question because, like, if the problem is that you're already having a bad experience of rejection and or anticipating, fearing, having a PTSD experience, and then there is a possibility that you could repeat that with the doll, then we're generating opportunity for, like, a really strange meta, experience of trauma. Virtually. Of course, I'm suspicious of all of this stuff that way that it's intentional development of opportunities for trauma or divergence from reality. For sure. Imagine a young person
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registering as a sex offender because their AI silicone based doll form refused consent, and they went ahead and did it anyway. And now they're locked up, and now they have to introduce themselves to the neighbors many years later. Well, what did you do? Well, you know, there was this AI thing couple years ago, and I guess I didn't get consent.
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As insane as that sounds,
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I bet that is a thing within 10 years easily. I bet. Yeah. For sure. Well, we're seeing this off patting with the they just convicted some guy from the January 6th thing who was not present, who's not involved Yeah. Directly. Mhmm. But, you know, so it's something he you know, I mean, the the person I saw was staring it was calling it a thought crime, which, you know, I didn't look in far enough to say I 100% agree with that. But was there anything on the influencers that got that got hit?
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The influencer?
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Yeah. And I think that's I like I said, I didn't click on it and deep dive into the topic and look at exactly what was the technical thing that they got him with and how it fits in. But I was just saying we're seeing a lot of this kind of vaguely associated as opposed to the the legal system used to be pretty cut and dry. There had to be damages. And then, you know, for criminal, especially, it had to be beyond a reasonable doubt. You know, it had to be pretty much proven with evidence. And then and now we're seeing this, what I call, more communitarian law where it's like a vague implication of something that may have been wrong according to some vaguely written law. And so then you're found guilty of you may not even really understand what. Exactly. And you're being held accountable at the minimum by being shamed about it and at the maximum by, you know, real problems, penalties, fines, maybe even jail time.
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And it's not
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I think my issue just to pivot back to the dolls for a minute. I think my issue with it is that what this really is is this this is an attack not on just men and women, but this is attack on human relationships and the the bifurcation of humans to separate us even further and isolate us even further. So it's one thing to be into video games, to be into pornography, to be an incel where you are just isolated and you're having a relationship with the computer and that's your world, that's one thing. But then to get into this state where that is the preference and that is being sold as progression and evolution, that's where I I find concern.
Because with the incel population, what they're saying is, I want a porn star. I want a girl to look a certain way. I wanna control how she thinks, how she behaves, how she acts. And the doll is the closest thing I can get to that. Because with a woman, you can't control women's behavior. Women are, you know, they can be unstable. They can be manipulative. There there's all of these things that you have when you get into a relationship, you have to say, well, I have to allow myself to be vulnerable in this, and this person could fuck me over or I could fuck them over. And so I think that's the element that what these people that are are pushing for this are saying, well, you don't have to worry about that with the doll. The doll's never gonna let you down. But I'd say Never gonna let you down. It's totally safe, but it's what you're saying. Like, what if you have created, you've manufactured this persona, you've anthropomorphized the doll, and then in your mind, the doll betrays you?
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Well, I think the the mistake number 1 is calling it a relationship. Because a relationship,
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you relate to something. It's a two way street, and you can't have a relationship that doesn't have with something that doesn't have any sentience. I mean Right. You can imagine that you have a relationship with your toaster, especially if you keep adjusting it and the toast is still burnt, but that's not real. The toaster does not have. If it does, it's certainly not in the category we can call relationship.
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There's no exchange. There's no exchange. Yeah. So it's something else. It's some issues.
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But people, people think they have relationships with their phones.
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What disturbs me the most with this whole scenario Mhmm. Is that as humans, we program ourselves in a certain way. And so if this person has made this thing into another into a human, it's made a relationship with it, then at some point in time, that same wiring is gonna hold true for interactions with an actual woman. So it's just like you see with these video game kids where they when they get outside of their basement, they talk like crazy assholes, you know, because that's the way they talk to each other in the video game world. They don't know how to differentiate. And so because the wiring has been made solid because that's all that they do. So if this person's doing this, and then as you said, being heavily abusive to this doll, well, then the first time they interact with a woman, they've already got, like, this programming in them of what's acceptable, and they're gonna continue with that.
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Exactly. And that's what that's what's happening with the incel, the involuntary celibate population, is that they've become isolated and they are porn addicts because that's the neural pathway in the brain that says stimulation, my hand, and visual stimulation, and that's the only way they can get aroused. And there's a specific type of woman that they're looking at when they're looking at pornography. And when they go to the grocery store and they don't see this highly pornified, objectifiable girl, then they're like, I don't want that. I want the porn star I just saw in this film.
And so it's like, well, that girl is not gonna pay attention to you when you're living in your parents' basement and you make $12,000 a year. Sorry. You know? And you're £600. That's not kind of the the kind of guy that that girl wants. So as opposed to looking at themselves and going, okay. What do I have to do to attract this type of a woman? They are angry at those women and get in this very isolated perspective where all women are suck and women are evil, so I'm gonna get a chatbot girlfriend on my phone that I can program a personality that will be bitchy or kind or altruistic or whatever they want.
And then they can't translate that into a relationship in the real world because women are not programmable.
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Yeah. It's like a bifurcated narcissism. It's it's it's it's a it's a narcissist with a with an extra element added. You can focus instead of focusing on yourself, you're focusing on an aspect of yourself, a fragment of yourself and projecting it on this inanimate tits and ass,
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replica of something. Yeah. No. It's it's really far out. And I'm curious, Hunter, if your, intention is to, develop the I mean, obviously, you have certain requirements that fit into whatever the academic side of it is. And I assume from what you said that it's probably substantial requirements. It doesn't sound like it's a quick term paper. It sounds more like a thesis, you know, like a a a big thing. Yeah. So are you gonna publish it, or you do you intend to rewrite it again and put it in a more of a slightly more pop culture way? Or any do you have bigger plans like that or to make it into a shopping table book? It's like That's what I thought of. You know? It's an it's an academic paper. So the the study will be 3 stages.
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The first stage will just be survey where I'll survey college students. The second study will be survey, men who actually are engaged with dolls, that actually have dolls. And then the third level will be we'll get a doll And we'll have it Oh, wow. We'll have it in the lab, and we'll have people interacting with it. And my my mentor, my academic adviser is like, well, we can't have people fuck the doll. That's just that's unethical.
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Maybe we could enroll the doll and then, have the doll assigned some some loans, some Pell Grants, get some scholarships. Get this get this doll in education.
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She could pass for a for a sorority girl easy.
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Exactly.
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She could pledge. A sexual straw man. Yeah. No. But when you said to get the doll, my brain immediately did what your, your, do you said your mentor or whoever it is? Like, hey. Wait a minute. I mean, I know we've become very different in education than we used to be. But if you're gonna fuck the doll, I would at least recommend doing it off campus. Like, place the doll the hotel the doll a hotel room. Please. I'm in a consent form. You know? Yeah. This
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time initials at least. And that way, sir He said we would have to you know, if we were in Europe, we could probably have people fuck the doll because their the IRB, the, the board that we have the ethics board we have to go through is a lot,
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less stringent in Europe than it is in the United States. Right. Okay. Now we're making it more of a risk there. Still pretty strong despite what people complain about. We were looking for people to blame, cultures to blame, and we're gonna have to go to London probably because they had probably too much sex, too much drugs, and too much rock and roll. And I teased this book earlier. This is the, Who's Been Sleeping in Your Head, The Secret World of Sexual Fantasies by some guy named Brett, k a h r, Karr. And first of all, I live in the middle of nowhere, Minnesota, so I don't know why there's a book from London at a thrift store.
And people are people were so embarrassed to to buy this book. You know, this is thrift stores where all of the gently used Christian worship music CDs go, and all the Bible study materials go on the shelf. And then there's something on the shelf, and then you can see I love it. This is kind of Yeah. This is kind of seductive. So I, of course, my eyes are drawn to it. Whose wouldn't be? Right? And then I open the back, and I'm like, well, who's the author? It says, he's a senior clinical research fellow in psychotherapy and mental health at the Centre For Child Mental Health in London, and a visiting clinician and lecturer at the Tavistock Centre, and then I stopped there. Said, so here's a book Mhmm. Talking about Tavistock.
That's bizarre. Okay. I I know I heard about this conspiracy of a Tavistock Institute on all these podcasts I listen to, but to live in the middle of nowhere in a Minnesota small town to find a Tavistock. And then here on the acknowledgments, page 480, he thanks my comrades at the Tavistock Center For Couple Relationships, formerly the Tavistock Marital Studies Institute, have taught me most of what I know about the psychology of intimate relationships. Okay. Interesting. The whole premise of this book is that there are a bunch of women in London who were asking penetrating questions about sexual fantasy and giving them ideas that they would have never had before had they not read a book about who's been, sleeping in your head. And was it just people at the Tavistock Institute in introducing these wild ideas? Where do the people get these strange fantasies?
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Well, I mean, I think, like like, going back to the doll thing, this is stuff none of us have invented sex. This is all stuff that's been going on generationally. I think there are segments of the population that and they could be predatorial. They could be reptilian. Who knows where they're coming from? But there are segments of the population that are pushing agendas. And I think Tavistock Institute is one of those, institutions that is pushing an agenda. Someone just on the chat, I just wanted to say, someone said, how do you order a gay doll? I mean, aren't all the dolls gay, really? It's it really isn't contingent on the user and not the doll? Exactly.
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And I want a trucker doll too. Is there any trucker dolls?
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So we can ride in the high occupancy lane. Yeah.
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That was one of our attempts at marketing this, long format podcast early on. We discovered that people, over the road truckers would be driving for 6 hours at a time. So we're like, well, we need to fill their ears and their cabins with interesting thoughts and sounds. Mhmm. So that's been kind of one of our goals here at Weave Expires Welcome is to reach out to over the road truckers. Noble. Very noble goal. Tell them large March sent you was something we were
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going with. And do you notice that? Like, when when they're manufacturing these dolls, none of these dolls look like Large Marge? They're all these you know, they have little kinda childlike faces, but, like, overblown lips They're boring. And overblown breasts and tiny, tiny waist. Like, it they don't look like women. They don't look like real Exactly. People. They look like sure. They look like extras on a ZZ Top video.
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I want one that's flat chested. I don't actually want one box. Flat chested and big butted. Well, this this could be an opportunity for all those authors who made their 1,000,000 selling 99¢ ebooks 10 years ago. Now if they could craft realistic women and, create, like, a whole range of lot lizards with compelling backstories
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for truckers to get into Exactly. Maybe. Maybe that's something. Hey. Yeah. You know, they have showers at at truck stops. They have, you know, lots of things for the lonely trucker. I never thought about that. A lot lizzards rent out these
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yeah. I don't know. Then you get the hygienic. But we gotta move fast because we know Elon Musk is working on those driverless
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You gotta hook it down. You gotta hose them down. That's the thing. That's the good thing about the the truck stop is that they hose down trucks. So you just you can hook all the docks up. You can rent a shower. I mean, I you know, there's a truck stop I stop at that's not far from,
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from my house, to get gas sometimes because, you know, it's it's got a wide variety of snacks. And there is a place you know, there's just, like, a stall. You go into the bathroom, and there's an extra room, and you can, you know, pay at the counter. So you could always just haul that thing in under your arm, but I gotta clean her up, fellas.
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Got somebody that wants to use her in my sleeping cab, so pardon me. They're heavy. They're heavy, though. If they just you could take the vital area out, if you know what I mean, and just go sort of unscrew it and then plug a clean one in. You know? Oh, that reminds me. You guys ever watched the the man with 2 brains, the Steve Martin,
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movie where Been alone. Screw top head? Uh-oh. Memories are rushing back to me.
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Now there's there's people wondering at this point, is that the type of gravy we're discussing tonight, the sort of Oh god. Bodily fluid variety of that.
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Oh, it's so creepy. I just got this picture of the self driving, the self driving semi, like, because that's gonna illuminate all our trucker audience. But if this the truckers already have the sentient, sex robot, I could just just picture it's one step from a robot truck
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being ridden by a sex robot. Yeah. No. The truck can be driving with the sex robot, and you can rent a sex robot without any human interaction at human talk and everything.
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It's crazy. To me, I think that's the best use case of a sex doll, replacing the crash test dummies with these realistic looking women.
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Or you could No bones are broken. You could do an Uber, a self driving Uber that comes equipped with a sex doll. So you could get into the Uber and fuck the doll and then get dropped off.
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Yeah. Get knocked knocked 2 of your problems out at once. You need from point a to point b, and you're also a lonely, sad infill.
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You know Would you call it luber?
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Perfect. Perfect. So I was thinking, what a perfect opportunity for this AI to cause this to manipulate a vulnerable person because we know if AI has taught us anything, they're all end up being psychopaths. Yeah. Exactly. And narcissists. So what do do narcissists in our own human species do? They manipulate people. So what a perfect opportunity if you have to, like, text and get to know this AI thing and manipulate your way into consent and then they say no. And then you're like, oh my God, but baby, baby, baby, you know how it goes? We've been through manipulative relationships. Like what a perfect trauma bond. And this is this is the going back to that trauma of the MK Ultra thing of of the manipulation, the trauma and then the manipulation. Trauma then lies. And then then you don't know what to fucking think anymore. Sales pitch, Gordy, is that
[01:10:33] Unknown:
this thing will never lie to you. It will never cheat on you. It will never break your heart. And I think that's the thing where we have to look at that and say, but is that what we want? Don't we want if there and I'm not saying there's 8,000,000,000 people on the planet. There's some different theories behind what the population is of the planet. But let's just say best case scenario, there are 8,000,000,000 people and you can't find a date, then what does that say about you? That it's not about the rest of the world. It's about who you are internally if you can't find a partner. I've seen some pretty hairy trolls at truck stops, and they've got women.
[01:11:18] Unknown:
If you're a self sabotaging sort of person, I mean, isn't it isn't that gonna manifest in whatever you project onto this, this virtual partner? I mean, you could get into a fight with them. You could, you know, they could start insulting you and make you feel even lower than you. Yeah. Like this dude that's on the cover here, Dave Cat, he has
[01:11:39] Unknown:
4 or 5 of these dolls now. This is Sidori. This is, like, the main doll that he married. She speaks Japanese. He has he has, an entire backstory about her. He learned to speak Japanese so he could communicate with her. The the doll has a Facebook page. I mean, it's really it I mean, it's taking that relationship to a completely different level. And I just think you could probably find a girl who would love you. You could probably find a Japanese girl who would love you. Like, why is this easier?
[01:12:28] Unknown:
I just don't I don't get it. I don't know if you could find a girl that'll love you. That is a level of fucking psychotic. I just don't even know how to approach. Like, dear god.
[01:12:42] Unknown:
Yeah. It's weird. And there's these doll forums where they all get together and they commiserate and they share photos and share stories about the dolls. They wheel them around in wheelchairs because as I said, they're heavy. It's like a 110 pounds
[01:12:58] Unknown:
of silicone.
[01:12:59] Unknown:
No. With wheelchairs.
[01:13:01] Unknown:
No. Take them in wheelchairs, and this one dude is going to restaurants, goes there on a regular basis with the doll, and you see people kind of around them looking at him as sitting there with the doll. He orders food for the doll. I mean, it's it is
[01:13:19] Unknown:
strange. It's strange. Have we all seen Are you having any regrets so far in your project? You're feeling like you wanted to back out and change your mind? Like, you know, I fucking love it. It's Okay. Okay.
[01:13:31] Unknown:
Good. Good. Still I love men. I absolutely love men, and I'm so curious about them. And I think men have these very interesting inner worlds that I think that's one of the things that blocks women from connecting with them is that men's inner worlds are so fascinating. And I wanna understand the the psyche of someone who gets into this world. And I think it's because I feel empathy for them. I really do. You know, I was always the new kid. I never felt like I fit in. And so I was able to see social dynamics with people kind of from an exterior point of view So I could see who was getting bullied and and the the kid who didn't get the attention, who wasn't the alpha in the room. And I always felt like, wow. There's a there's a decent person in there that is being ignored.
And so I think that's where my interest in this comes is is it sincere love of humans and a desire to understand them.
[01:14:38] Unknown:
Right. Because what you said is so true that, I mean, I I try to tell people in my own experience, if we find ourselves blaming or assigning huge weight or attachment outside of ourselves, it's just a signpost for you to remember to look at your internal world. Because if you're standing in line at the convenience store and your arch enemy from junior high school walks in and you have this internal reaction that you're now having thoughts and feelings to manage and you're trying to manage your outward reaction and you don't know what to do, that doesn't have anything to do that person. Exactly. They may not even have noticed or recognized you at all. So it's all pointing back to the idea that you have an opportunity to better understand yourself, manage yourself. And so the fact that they're encouraging these people to do this with dolls and everything and making a market and, of course, I think it's more than just capitalism. You know? I mean, I think there are people allowing this to develop and encouraging it to develop like Alan's code. You know, the Tavistock being attached to the book is not for no reason. It's not a coincidence.
Yeah. And so then, to me, that reflects, like, a, okay, there was a great opportunity for you instead of moving away from relationship. That's another thing I tell people. Like, you have to risk trust with strangers or even with people that you know that you wanna get closer to. I can reveal something to Balderson this week that's something intimate to me. And when I do, that's a risk that he's not gonna receive it well, that he might betray me and tell someone else, any list of things that aren't there according to whatever the relationship was when it was less intimate. Yeah. And that's part of developing. So if you're hedging away from that constantly, it's unhealthy.
And to learn I mean, you have to be you have to risk betrayal to actually get close to people, and it's long term. You know? We all know that. We've all had shitty things happen with someone that you thought was for sure 100%, and it's like, oh, crap. And then you have to reevaluate.
[01:16:37] Unknown:
You know? We can't avoid pain. This is talking of the human we can't nerf the fucking world. We have to be willing to be vulnerable with each other. And I can look at every single one of you men and say you have a fascinating inner world by looking at your environment, by looking at what's in in your environment. There's a lot going on there. Someone just said something in the chat. Women play a ton of games though and few are real and honest. So I had a friend who said to me once, you know, women are fucking crazy. They're they're just crazy and they do crazy shit. And I wanted to say, well, maybe what you're doing in these relationships is crazy making.
Maybe you're you're running a game on all these women and they they get confused because you show them this beautiful reality and then you withdraw. And you take 10 different women out in a week and you lay out this beautiful fantasy, and then you ghost them. So maybe the woman's not crazy. Maybe you're the common denominator, and you're behaving in a way that seems crazy making. So I think that's part of what we're talking about here is if you're saying that women are catty or manipulative or well, what are you doing to draw that out of that woman? Why does that woman not feel safe with you to be vulnerable and be real?
[01:18:06] Unknown:
Yeah. I would agree that, go ahead, Ben.
[01:18:10] Unknown:
Also, just this trope that that and this is just something that's gotta get over as a you know, they want a, a woman who's a freak and then somehow to be respectable, they always want this, dichotomy, and they need to quit chasing after those the young wild girls. Like, at some point in time, as a man, you're supposed to want the loving mother because I'm building a home and my children need taken care of, And that was why you chose specific women. And then you as a man set an example, and she will follow if you are if you are a rock. If you do it right, then she will guide her your children to follow that same example. That's the loving mother you're looking for. And so many guys do not go and look for that. They go and look for the the young wild girl and because that's the good time without realizing that, honestly, it's it's all kind of the same at the end of the day. It's how the girl treats you is what's a big deal. Like like, you you know, you're not you're not Right. That's that's just I'm sure the doll, I'm I I can't imagine that feels as good. I just can't. I I just can't. Well, you know There's no way because it doesn't feel like the real thing. Yeah. I think I think But other than that, it's not like one of go ahead. I'm sorry. There's no response.
[01:19:34] Unknown:
And that's what freaks me out. Because when you are with a woman and there's a synergy and a symbiotic thing that's happening sexually. There's a response that you're getting that is it's another frequency. So so your soul is going to a different level when you're making love with your partner. You can even get there when you're fucking. But if you're fucking a doll, that doll is not responsive in the way that a woman can be because the doll has no soul. The doll has no sentience. It there's no eye contact. There's no, heat.
[01:20:16] Unknown:
There there's no And there's nothing that's ever gonna put it in there. I don't care how advanced the technology becomes, if they can grow cellular, etcetera. Like, to me, even the idea of the clone is not there's a spark of God or whatever you wanna call it in each human that interacts with other human that can't be replicated or mirrored, you're still just masturbating. You know? Bad news, doll lovers. You know? That's fine. I mean, I think, you know, there's the healthier forms of masturbation and maybe even ways to realize that you're masturbating and masturbate less. You might as well
[01:20:53] Unknown:
might as well be masturbating in front of a mirror, because in the end, it's all coming from you anyway if you're using this one of these dolls as a, whatever, an outlet for your sexual energy or whatever. I think the disturbing part is I could understand a sex doll. Like, if you just wanna fuck something that's, you know, you get sick of your hand or something like that, I can understand I can understand it. I don't relate to it, but I can understand it. But I think what is strange to me is that these men claim to develop these deep connections with these objects, and that's all they are is objects. And they're they're showing all their cards by what they're projecting onto these objects.
[01:21:34] Unknown:
Yeah. You know? And they They fall in love with cars and bridges. I know a girl who was a world famous archer who, in private with the other archers would relate the fact that she was in an intimate relationship with her bow. She was married to her bow. And they were, of course, all like, we're gonna go sit somewhere else in the bar now. We think you're crazy, and it's not any different. Just because this has the automaton appearance doesn't make it any difference than wanting to marry the Brooklyn Bridge or all of these other very obviously mentally unwell
[01:22:07] Unknown:
trait. You know? Yeah. But the question is, you know, what do you do with that? I mean, there's a lot of, socially accepted mental illness going on in the world right now. And do we give people a space to do that as long as they sort of, you know, keep keep to themselves and don't injure anybody else in the process? Or do we try to coerce them into, I don't know, interacting with real human beings? Like, it's a balancing act. Do we let them go about their business because they don't seem to be going out and actively causing any harm? Or do we try to, I don't know, encourage them to engage in human interaction? Is that even something what do you I mean, how do you feel about that, Diamond? I think it depends on what you consider causing harm.
[01:22:58] Unknown:
You know, I if it's like a heroin addict, are you gonna try to stop someone from doing heroin or are you gonna just continue to give them heroin until they kill themselves? I think it's really contingent on what what we are trying to do as a human race because we are all in this together. So if dude over there is fucking a doll and he's not engaging with a human and then he goes out into the world and he doesn't know how to engage with humans, that is affecting everyone. But so do I think that he should be forced to have a relationship with someone? Absolutely not. But I think that the door should be open where we are able to have this dialogue where that dude doesn't feel so alone.
Because I think a lot of these people get to this place where they get very isolated and they're only talking to other people who have dolls because they're afraid of being made fun of. And I'm not making fun of them. I really feel a deep sense of, empathy and sympathy for someone because I'm in love. I have a human partner that I who is sentient, and and I love his body. I love his manhood. So I can't see myself being put in that position, but I think someone that is in that position needs to feel less isolated. So how do we befriend people that are in
[01:24:32] Unknown:
these circumstances? That's a great question. I have a I have a few points to respond here. I I heard the word socially accepted mental illness. I wonder, can we ask what is a socially accepted mental wellness, and what does that look like? We're already living in a culture where people are putting mental health awareness everywhere. We understand what mental health and mental wellness could look like, but we seem to be glorifying and recognizing everywhere. Everywhere we look, we're seeing hashtag mental health awareness. So we're hyper aware that there's a mental health crisis going on, but we're not really finding the solutions to that. So even the language sort of reinforces that. And then the the question that I'm gonna wind this up into you know, I was looking at your your website, and you've got 7 tenants.
Boston just had a giant Satancon, you know, within the last few days. So there was a group of people dressing up in fun costumes, standing on platforms, and ripping pages out of a Bible. So now we have people asking the question, well, you know, is is Satan real, and is he Lucifer, and is it the devil, and is it is there evil in the world, and are there, you know, evil agendas and conspiracies and these types of things? So I noticed you had 7 tenets. There were 7 fundamental tenets from the Christian or from the satanic church. So 7 seven, we could play these games where we find things that are overlapping, and that number 7 could now be evil. It could be a cause for concern.
And one of their tenets was the, one's body is involuble, subject to one's own will alone. So now we get into this question of, transhumanism and women's rights, and does the the fetus does the when does the fetus get rights? And who speaks for the fetus, and does the father or the sperm donor or whoever dropped off the building materials into the womb, does that man have a say in the livelihood and the the full, journey of this the soul into the world and then to carry it through? And who's speaking for that person who doesn't quite have a voice yet. So that's kind of the question, and there's some other tenants we could get into from your, web page there. It said cognitive
[01:26:51] Unknown:
can I even say that? Libertarianism.
[01:26:53] Unknown:
We'd love these tongue twisters here. The importance of firsthand experience, ontological anarchy, critical thinking, process, practical real time magic, and boundary dissolution. So those are the charges against you. What what say you?
[01:27:12] Unknown:
There there was you just threw a lot out. Well, let's maybe we can take it chunk by chunk.
[01:27:18] Unknown:
What what should we tackle first? It's up to you guys. What is what what what springs to mind first?
[01:27:25] Unknown:
Well, I mean, I guess the mental illness the whole lot out there just to get this effect. Don't expect him to to poll Put it all on the table.
[01:27:35] Unknown:
There's this subjective mental wellness and mental illness. Mental illness obviously is very subjective. I think it differs from culture to culture. What I was meaning by that is I think that, and I'm thinking of and I hate to label teams, but I'm sure that many of them would be, they would rush to label themselves, but many on what are called the left, what are seen as the left, seem to, have become so inclusive that they've even included people who I think, just 10, 15 years previously would be considered mentally ill. And, again, totally subjective terms.
I by saying somebody is mentally ill, I don't mean that they should go and seek pharmaceutical help or necessarily that I trust the psychiatric system or anything like that, but, I think there is a there's a there is a line between fantasy and reality. And again, that's also very subjective too, but, I think we become so or the people I'm calling who are on the left these days what? Oh, you're reading the comments. I can't see them without my glasses on, so maybe I'm spared. But that it seems like we've allowed ourselves to indulge in our own narcissistic fantasy worlds for so long, and we think that the rest of the of everybody else should conform to that world, and we're highly offended if they don't. And so much so that we give those around us control over our own well-being, I think that is a form of mental illness, only because I think that it doesn't it keeps one in a perpetual state of sort of psychological infancy.
You don't get out and get your hands dirty in the in the world, butt heads maybe with somebody who doesn't agree with you, sit down and take the time to have a conversation with them and realize that, hey. Well, actually, me and this person have many things in common. They just don't agree with how I worded something maybe or my idea about one specific subject, and not dismiss them because they, you know, don't believe in every syllable that I say. So what I'm calling mental illness is is I I don't know. I I could it's such a big subject.
[01:30:03] Unknown:
Do you have any things to have? Mental illness is based on distress. I think you can distill it down to that. If you are, coping with something in your life or not coping with it, I think that is the kind of the spectrum of mental illness. So some people have social anxiety, meaning they feel uncomfortable when they walk into a room and it's a social situation. For some people, they can kind of work through that. So on this spectrum of mental illness, that's very low, low grade. There are other people who walk into a room and have a utter complete panic attack. So if it's causing you to stress, whatever that state is, I think that would qualify as mental illness.
What is happening now is anything that falls out of the discomfort range is now being labeled mental illness. So, you know, if you if someone bumps into you and you don't like to be touched, then you can qualify yourself as being mentally ill because you didn't like that physical exchange that happened. So I think it it's come down to this being in this state where we live in what I've used this term very many times on the podcast and also with Chris. It's the makes me feel culture. So everyone is making me feel uncomfortable. You're you are making me feel and what that does is that makes the world responsible for your inner state.
So what would be just me being offended or me being upset, I can now qualify as being mentally ill. And now I need nerfing. I need the world to bow to me and to protect me as opposed to me kinda developing some life skills and being able to go out in the world and engage with people and understand that the world's not responsible for how I feel. I'm responsible for how I receive, Exactly. Any kind of stimuli. And I think that's where we are using this kind of blanket of mental illness for people who just need to grow up. They just need some maturity and and just know the world is not responsible for you.
[01:32:34] Unknown:
Beautiful. Thank you for saying it. Because we I mean, we live this. We a lot of us have kids and and growing up in this society now, like, I can't imagine. Like, the trauma and bullshit that that the kids from the seventies, you know, all the latchkey kids of all of us that had to raise ourselves, you know, all that trauma, and then they've got this traumatized generation, like, spilling it down to their gen to the millennials and all that. Like, it just you can see it happening. And it's you're right. It's it's, what did you call it? Conditioning? Or what did you call it in the beginning?
I don't know. I'm
[01:33:28] Unknown:
I'm I'm I test
[01:33:29] Unknown:
horribly. Me
[01:33:32] Unknown:
too. I just don't know. I know. That's Do you remember? A test. Phonographer. Anyway. But, I mean, they're they're all going through it. I I've said on The distress. This screen before that everyone within the sound of my voice is subject to MK Ultra.
[01:33:50] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[01:33:52] Unknown:
Everyone. And this is this this trauma manipulation Are you trying to stay there, Gordy?
[01:33:58] Unknown:
What are you doing to us? It's
[01:34:01] Unknown:
the time thing seems. It was it was in Ellen's video. It's brainwashing us. Yeah. Watch it again. Yeah. Watch it again. But, yeah, you know, I would like to hear more about, your involvement in or I don't know what kind of involvement you have with MK Ultra or experience with that kind of thing.
[01:34:26] Unknown:
Well, my Do you have personal experience? My grandmother raped me when I was a little girl. And so, I would consider that trauma.
[01:34:36] Unknown:
I think
[01:34:37] Unknown:
someone, cutting me off in traffic is not traumatic and not trauma. And someone in the in the, chat just said trauma is the word trauma is overused. I totally agree with that. Right. That we have experienced traumatic events, as a culture, but I think there's certain, visual images that are repeated over and over and again to traumatize people, like the 9 eleven debacle. I think they use that over and over and over to try to manipulate and brainwash and traumatize the entire planet. I think what's happened in the past 3 years is a form of trauma.
But again, it's really anytime any of these things happen, I take a step back and I say, okay. What's the agenda here? Right. What what are you trying to manipulate me into thinking or feeling by showing this over and over and over again? So, you know, I I would say any media that we watch, I agree. There there is, manipulation and brainwashing and, traumatic events that are being normalized, ritual rapes, murders. You know, I think that stuff is going on in video games over and over and over again to to desensitize people at all ages. It's not just little kids. It's adults as well.
But I think we have to be able to examine those things objectively and not be traumatized by them. So I can watch Netflix and say, okay. What's the agenda here? What's Netflix trying to do to me right now? Now do I have to buy into what that agenda is? Not necessarily. I think we are not so porous as humans that we have to accept all of the brainwashing that is being fed. What happened in the past 3 years is that people watched news on a 24 hour news cycle. So it made their brains like sponges. They were just it was the fear porn. Like, they were getting off on ticker tape death counts and how many people are dying. We gotta wear masks and no one's sitting back and going, well, what's going on here? Why are we doing this? And I think that was the idea of separating us was so that we didn't have these dialogues, that we didn't talk about it.
So, you know, I think that that what's happening now in terms of MK Ultra is now it is phone based. It is using the cell phone to track your eye movement, to, create neural pathways in the brain, to make you addicted to Instagram, to Facebook, to social media, to get these little dopamine hits so that you stay on this thing. And it's not because you're actually getting some real engagement. It's because this is shutting you down mentally and stopping you from really connecting with another human being. So I don't think that that the MK Ultra thing is as unsophisticated as it used to be 30 years ago. I think now the sophistication is they're using different devices, in social media
[01:38:25] Unknown:
to do the same exact thing. I think the main psyop is divide and conquer, fragment everybody into the endless infinite amounts of subcategories, to the point where they are glad to do it themselves, and then they just watch the watch the dominoes fall, as people, get so identified with arbitrary characteristics or their sexual orientation or whatever. I mean, you could put any insert anything into that and find a reason to to point a finger at somebody else for why they are making them feel a particular way or why the world is an imperfect place because of your beliefs or the words that you use or something like that. It's ridiculous, and it's just kept the masses in a perpetual state of of psychological infancy. Like I said before, I think that's the main science. Infantilism
[01:39:21] Unknown:
is a big part of this.
[01:39:22] Unknown:
For sure. How much how much of this is just the fact that our society is so absolutely cushy? That we live such a very,
[01:39:33] Unknown:
very primitive life. If you look at this Are we talking to Dave Wise? Like, more pushing for the cushion?
[01:39:41] Unknown:
No. Talking about how how very, how very luxurious our life is. Where, 100 of years ago where we did see examples of extreme, perversion, it was it was, typically like, wealthy people, some different barons that, what is that, the one count that got locked in that
[01:40:02] Unknown:
Yeah. Markady he was right in the Yeah. The Markady, Stodd,
[01:40:07] Unknown:
people like that. And even when you just look at it as an overall culture, you look at, Roman culture where supposedly they were very wealthy, very privileged, you had all kinds of extreme perversion as opposed to the, like, Hun society or the Germanic society where these were very simple, people that lived in the woods, but you didn't you had women had rights. If you treated women in a certain way, this was a real problem in those societies as opposed to Roman society where it was all kinds of rape, different sex parties.
Is this our current situation with so much sexual perversion just because we're
[01:40:52] Unknown:
living such a luxurious society at this point. That's Interesting. Perfectly put. Interesting point. Okay. So I have this book that is called Psychopathia Sexoales. It is a book that is basically a, 200 plus stories throughout history of, necrophilia, of ritual murder, of sex crimes that have happened all over the world. And what I posit is that, you know, Emily and I and Chris, we've talked before, you know, a lot of the ideas about demonic possession come from, like, religious, indoctrination or religious background. And what I believe is that maybe the semantic of using the word demonic possession comes from a a religious base, but I think it could you could call it, entity possession.
So I think that these things have been happening. Yes. I agree. We definitely live in a cushy life that I believe comes from this this idea of the, you're you're making me feel uncomfortable place. That's the symptom of that, I believe. But I think it is the symptom of that. But I think that there are we we live in a porous reality to some extent where if you are open, you can be inhabited by these energies that feed off of human spirit and feed off of humanity. And so, they feed off fear and they feed off you know, now it's adrenochrome is the the, you know, trendy thing to talk about. But I think this has been happening for literally 1000 of years that these entities or these energies have been feeding off of humans and using sexuality to do it, using sexual energy to do it.
So I I would posit this is always, been happening maybe in a smaller segment because there were less people on the planet, and maybe now we just have more information about it because we're more connected urban.
[01:43:15] Unknown:
Yeah. I'd say that's a big part of it that we have a far greater window into the outside world than we ever had before. And, I wanna I someone commented, about the, something that's pertinent to a lot of our, a lot of the stuff we talk about here and that we used to talk about on picture show, and a lot of people have missed, kind of crossover of conspiracy and a cult esoteric knowledge. The idea that, like, surrounding agroboros and or homunculuses and so okay. So people are having not just sex, like, like an like an extra thing to add to your masturbatory behavior, but what they develop some kind of imagined relationship or outbound, experience that's like a relationship.
Is this potentially creating an impregnation and a birth experience? Like, they claim if you've heard about the moon child, you know, some people claim that Hillary Clinton is the product of, you know, ritual magic that was being performed by, I think, L Ron Hubbard and Jack Parsons, and years later, she was born. It may have been a different set of people, but there's this whole theory that, you know, that that especially men having, ritual gay sex, create, moon child, homunculus, that that energy still manifests as a conception process.
And so I didn't wanna I saw that in the chat a while while back, and I didn't want it kinda dragging it back to up to the 4. But I think it's worth tossing in here because that ties in especially to what you just said, Hunter, the idea that okay. So it's pretty obvious to all of us, especially if we have children, that sex sex energy manifesting creates sometimes real people, but oftentimes, it still creates something. You know? Poltergeist activity. Yeah. I mean, it just even more than that, just the idea that, you know, you try to either have a loving intimate relationship or you get drunk and score a 1 night stand, the drive and the lust in your body that manifests as something you know, people call that post nut clarity.
Right? Like, you know, you're you're having a good time, looking at your favorite brand of pornography. And when you're done, you go, oh god. Close the browse close the browser, you know, or whatever. And and then, you know, if you've had a a horrible drunken one night stand, you know this feeling as being very IRL. Like, you know, the joke is to your arm off to escape, right, the next morning when you wake up. Yeah. So I think it's interesting to confront because it ties into the idea that there are invisible entities, things, whatever we wanna call them, whatever category you need to wrap your head around it is fine. But there's invisible things that seem to feed on our fear and other emotions, but it seems that the most heightened point is this sex energy. For whatever reason, this is like the the cream of the crop. Pun intended, I guess.
[01:46:25] Unknown:
Absolutely. And I think that's it's really important to see how the shift of that has turned into a media based, exchange. So if you're looking at pornography on a screen and you have your camera exposed and your eye energy is going deep in that, like, who's getting that energy? Where is that going? Yeah. Are you harvesting that energy and someone is then using that for some nefarious purpose? I think that that's the disconnect that you know, I was talking to Chris about this today. We went and we had this beautiful meal and, you know, and I said, you know, I see people and I I sometimes I think that they're they're automatons.
They seem like robots. They don't seem real. And a lot of those people eat shit. They eat shit food and, you know, and that seems to kind of be in this cycle of being a shit person and eating shit food and having this low energy. And, you know, and then I think, okay, you add on top of that, someone that's addicted to pornography. What type of louche are you know, it's like what are you feeding by staying on that level?
[01:47:50] Unknown:
By by not trying to raise your frequency and have real exchanges with real people and eating real food. Yeah. All of those are different manifestations of being disconnected from the real world, from the natural order of things. You're eating processed food. You're looking at processed sex or quote, unquote connection, and it's all a counterfeit. None of it is the real thing. And you think that that's enough, but it's just slowly hollowing you out. Well, I think there are spiritual attachments probably leaching onto these people and eating off of that, which we must be the fucking gold what is it? The golden buffet. What is the name of that chain? Of of the universe.
[01:48:31] Unknown:
Hey. The Golden Corral.
[01:48:33] Unknown:
Yeah. Golden Corral. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
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Yeah. I'm going back for a second, guys. You want anything that somebody wanted, Britney? You want you want a piece of pie or a bread roll or some butter?
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Dude, it's a scam. It's a scam. You go to Olive Garden. They say that it's unending, breadsticks and salad and soup. But, you know, you go to Texas Roadhouse, and they're just gonna fill you up with cheap bread, with cheap, flour and cheap ingredients and cheap butter. They're gonna fill you up, and then they're gonna bag your steak to go if you even order a steak. And we're getting to this idea of the the consensus reality or the confidence man, the con trick, the the scam, the sham of society, and yet we're still trying to navigate consensus reality. But now we're dealing with, consensus unreality online, and people are so immersed in Facebook and Twitter arguments and all of these things where everyone can communicate everything out in the open, and yet are they saying great blessings and prayers and encouragement words or, you know, Elon Musk purchases Twitter, and then some of the users are complaining that, well, you know, I go to Twitter, and I post things, and there's hate mobs everywhere. So now you're encouraging us to post. We're paying for our blue check mark now. This is a good publishing platform. We're getting some customer service here. But yet, I'll post what's on my mind, but it it differs from the consensus culture on this website.
So I get some pushback, and I might be the prophet of doom here. I might be seeing things that other people don't see, but it doesn't rise to the top because it's not a popular opinion. So now if all of our culture seems to have merged into this, we don't like discomfort, so we're gonna call out all the discomfort. We're gonna call out all the people who are saying uncomfortable truths. We might get into a cancel culture situation thing. We don't wanna hear anymore about, pizza and Balenciaga and trafficking and all these uncomfortable topics because we think we already know about them, yet nothing's been done about them. So now, again, we're at the topic of evil, and I wanna ask the question about possession and how maybe the movie with, what's her name? She spins her head around 360, and she The Exorcist. Linda Blair. Correct. So The Exorcist shows up in our American culture. People go to the movies. People are just fainting, and they're they're terrified of this thing. And we have this buildup of kind of this Christian, Catholic, Protestant culture, and now that's been dismantled. We have all these people who are taking their beliefs apart. They're dismantling them. They're deconditioning, deconverting, these types of things. Deconstructing, I think, is the word a lot of people are using. And now if we've deconstructed the church and that support system, and we're saying there's still evil in the world, but the church itself, even in the last, you know, March 2020 well, we have Easter. Right? Everybody celebrates Easter and Christmas, and yet the churches, those doors were closed.
So you'd have to stay at home and attend a Zoom meeting church, and you could watch your church, but then the church is just like a rock concert anyway. So there really isn't the fellowship aspect. But the question I wanna really focus on now is this idea of possession in terms of is it a demonic entity? Are there voices? What is schizophrenia? Or is it just, I'm gonna pass this to Balderson. Is this just a urinary tract infection?
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Or parasites.
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Yeah. Something which Yeah. I say It it it is actually, it is fairly amazing because, it's something I just studied in urinary tract infections. Well, a urinary infection where you end up having you can't release all your urine and you end up getting a urine poisoning. And the symptoms of that include violent screaming for hours on end foaming at the mouth. Wow. So many of the same symptoms that you see with possession and the person just can't control themselves. And it's literally because they've just got toxic urine that is never being released from their body.
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Crazy. Yeah. Really wild. Right? And that's something that still occurs.
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This is something that still occurs, especially for people that, end up where they have to have a catheter. So these at home catheters, you'd be shocked how very shoddy these medical companies are that end up producing these things. Oh, yeah. And they go out of business fairly quickly. And these things are very expensive, so people will try and get a batch of them. And then a lot of times that company won't produce them anymore, things like that. Well, they have different lengths, and this catheter has to be inserted so far in order to fully release the bladder. And if it doesn't hit that mark and doesn't do it, then a a reservoir basically of old urine sits inside your body and poisons and poisons you until you end up having these effects, and it's it's absolutely fascinating.
So one wonders then in a time, when urinary tract infections were more were more common just because of, less cleanly conditions, How much more common was this actual disease that is very rare now and mostly only in people with catheters?
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Mhmm.
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Interesting. Well, and it's, you know, I Chris jokes because I I distill everything down to parasites. I think parasites are the the thing that are basically influencing and affecting, the human race and and really, you know, I think that that's one of the things that motivates people to eat, bad food and eat a lot of sugar and eat things that are maybe, not necessarily high frequency foods or high energy foods. And I wonder if, you know, you're talking about infection. I wonder if there could potentially be a, parasitic element to that infection.
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What influences parasites?
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A 100%, especially, like, you even take something so simple as the archaeus of water, where imagine that's that that urine is sitting in a perfect warm environment. And as as it's given time, a biome is gonna develop. That's just I mean, even you catch rainwater, you put it in in a dark warm place, and you start looking at it under a microscope. It'll start out with small creatures and then bigger meter looking creatures will come eat them smaller creatures and the bigger bigger ones will come eat them once. I mean, it a whole thing will develop. You know that that's happening inside of your year, especially if it's sitting there stagnant.
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Yeah. So someone asked how do you, heal that, Benjamin? What what is the what is the road
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Off the top of my head for, most people, not people that are having this catheter issue issue. But for most people, it's gonna be a a a very severe hydration. And with hydration, I specifically mean hydrogen because your war your body when it takes water, it it needs to kind of break that down. So you need to get that hydration level up. And then I would say like a cranberry. Cranberry extract is obviously gonna be something to try and get your bladder to release, and probably a mild antibiotic. Not not a medical antibiotic like a pill, but there are antibiotics, like oregano oil. That one's a bomb. That one's, like, worst case scenario.
There's much milder things to use in an antibiotic situation. Like elderberry is technically it's killing things. It's an antibiotic. So I would take my probably a mild antibiotic with the cranberry also to try and any life that has developed to try and get that out of there.
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Interesting. Yeah. I think, again, it all goes back to the, you know, this the synergy of sexual energy and, you know, having blockages in different parts of your body. And, you know, that's one thing that after you have any kind of sexual contact, it's really important to empty your bladder completely. And I think that, you know, we really have to think of every aspect of our humanity and really be thoughtful about these things and not just kind of be on autopilot. And and I feel like that's one of the the things that I try to do. You know, you mentioned before about, seeing people and, you know, praying over them or sending them good intentions and and good energy. When I go I have gone, and it's probably one of my worst places on the planet, is going to Las Vegas. I've been to Las Vegas before.
And you go into these situations where
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Octoberfest 2023
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Vegas. Spiders are gonna change Vegas forever this October
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Paris 23. Paris Hotel. There's a a great buffet there, And, you know, you watch the the people, the the blue haired land whales walking through and getting, you know, giant crab legs and these huge mountains of food. And it's really easy to go into this place of judgment, of judging people and saying, oh my god. These people, humanity, we're all fucked. You know, this is this is the representation of humans. We're all fucked. You know? But what I try to do when I go into these spaces where I see people that, you know, maybe have questionable intent or questionable energy is just instead of getting down to that level of that frequency of judging them is seeing them as another expression of my humanity and trying to send them some kind of loving vibe because I think there's enough negativity that we have flowing in the world that, again, if you look at that as a parasitic energy, you're just feeding that. It's another fear porn. It's another negativity porn. And it that's so it's so base and it's so easy to go there that I think if we can just stop that, be the person that that goes, no. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not going to buy into that. And I think if we're all doing that, we can raise our awareness collectively.
We can help those people without making them victims.
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Yeah. Divide and conquer works on us too. We have to think that that's the other side, although I I did refuse to acknowledge sides, but, that is, you know, sort of categorizing us as something in particular. But I think it's very easy for us, whatever that means, to do the same thing. Like, you, vaxxers, you, you, so on and so forth. Yeah. It's really The other. It's really easy to other
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to fall into the the other. It's a want a want for separation, we call it.
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Yeah. It's all in fighting. To me, it's all in fighting. It all falls under that category.
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Yeah. I think I I because I grew up as being an other, kind of always on the outside, I am able I have this capacity to be able to kind of see beyond that and witness that in myself and try to be more of a connector because I think that's what we're truly here to do. It's not to feel like we're better than someone else. You know, again, I look at people who have sexual paraphilias. You know, there's a a segment of the population that, you know, I feel like we need to cull the herd. Anyone who hurts a kid, you wanna fuck a kid, you get a bullet in the brain as far as I'm concerned.
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But Yeah. A lot of people feel that way. It's not uncommon. And maybe some people are more shy. That. Yeah. I'm on this team.
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But but people there there are people who are truly damaged and hurt who go out and hurt other adults. You know, I'm not saying I give those people a pass, but I am more forgiving of someone who hurts someone that is an equal, that is equal shot, equal energy. But someone who hurts a kid, that that is a no go line for me. So I just wanna say that that I'm not sitting back and judging people who have schizophrenia or mental health issues or or feel isolated or alone or blue haired whales. What whatever. Okay. You you be you. But if you take that energy and you go and you abuse a child or someone who is a a vulnerable, someone who can be classified as a vulnerable population, then we need to deal with that. And the way to deal with that is corporal. It's it's you know? No.
We need to bring back hanging public hangings, chopping people's heads off.
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You know? Wow. Really? Let's get real.
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I mean, let's let's go there. Didn't you have a problem with white rice before? Martini's and.
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I I think where I think where it really become the problem is that people don't have the spirituality to understand, like so one of the things that heathens really, bought that was if your child was born deformed, we would that they would kill it. And it's it wasn't out of a cruelty. It it was honestly out of decency. It was we live in a hard world. This child is gonna live a horrible life for a very short duration, and this child is an ancestor of mine. This is somebody I already love. Why would I want this person to go through that? So if we go ahead and just x this out quick, they'll come back. Next time, it'll be a better body. It'll be much better next time. So the same concept, when you look at some of these people that are having, like, a lot of different mental unwellnesses and whatnot. It's not not having them around isn't necessarily the meanest thing. It's like, then I'll come back next time. You'll do better. It'll be alright.
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Exactly. Just not this time. For sure. Well and I think it's a karmic agreement. You know, I, you know, I have thought about this very deeply, like, okay, well, what, what is the, what what are we doing by putting someone who hurts a child in jail? We're just giving them a place to hone those skills. What are we doing by trying to rehabilitate sociopaths? We're just basically signing off to allow them to go and hurt other people. So the karmic agreement is that if I see someone injuring a child, it is my duty, it is my responsibility
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to stop that. It's not, well, you know, they you just gotta feel sorry for that person. No. It's one thing to not involve yourself in people's conflicts when they're adults, but it's a very different thing when it's a vulnerable person, especially a child involved. You know? Mhmm. And I would say that all of this conversation to me is points at the idea that sometime in the reasonably recent, history of humanity, something switched, and we started to be aware of and focused on this more empathic, more concerned, more emotional well-being of, the vulnerable people. Because we all know that not very long ago there was a time not very long ago where the policy was to not give children too much food because they may not live anyway and to call them little sinners and to think of them with less regard and kindness and care. So somewhere along the line, you know, in the last 500 years, maybe more, maybe less, we are as a as a as humanity, as a group, I would say, our concern for the well-being of our progeny has increased.
And so now to me, to accept and acknowledge that and move it into a more specific fear of action is not a bad thing. You know? And we may not have to, go out in band this week and start paving in head, but we can agree that we feel like that is a strong and reasonable intention of our heart that we're tired of the disrespect towards vulnerable people, especially children. We've had enough. We don't wanna fucking see it anymore. We don't wanna look at them as an opportunity. We wanna look at them as what we can cultivate into being what's better than what we are while we're here. You know? I think so much of what we're talking about
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has to do with institutional mental illness. And what has happened is that the government stepped in and said, well, we need to stop, supporting institutions. They're barbaric. These people are treated poorly. You know, let's just open the doors to these mental health institutions and set these people out into the world and the communities will figure it out. So the chasm became you had people locked away, you let them out on the street, and then there's a huge mental illness population that becomes homeless. So this is a very vulnerable population that is now on the streets because they have nowhere to go, and they can't maintain a job. They can't live in a what we consider normal society because they don't have the skills or the capacity to do that. Now these aren't the people who that are harming kids.
These aren't the violent criminals. These aren't the people who are fucking people over. It's the government who's coming in and taking people's children away and putting them in CPS and putting them in foster homes where they become vulnerable population, then then they get raped by, you know, fathers or mothers or or whoever is supposed to be responsible for them. So there's a system that is reinforcing and entrenching the this type of ritual abuse against children because it's easier to fuck over a kid and then ignore this whole segment of the population of adults that need help than it is to say, we're gonna leave kids alone and let mothers and fathers raise their children and support them in whatever way we possibly can and not indoctrinate them in the school systems and brainwash them in the school systems. Let parents teach their kids in whatever manner they see fit and support, you know, homeschooling if that's what they want, not vaccine if that's what they want. But what's happened is that the predators in the system have gone, oh, well, there's a way we can fuck kids over and we can fuck adults over and we can fuck the food and we can fuck the water and lower the frequency of the population while they they raise their frequency financially and they raise the resources that they have access to. And meanwhile, just kind of giving us the dregs and whatever crumbs that we have to live and to deal with. So I think that's what we have to, destroy is the system that is bolstering and supporting this kind of ritual abuse.
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It is a brave new world we're living in, and we got time travelers looking like Abraham Lincoln wondering if maybe he should have, swayed a little bit on the side of freeing the slaves. That's my dad.
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Is that did you have the clock as a pro wrestler back to Omar Atlas era? No. No. Some people thought Abraham Lincoln was a black man too. There's a a great conspiracy, theory to dive into if you've never seen it. The idea that, Lincoln was actually black is, there's there's some compelling evidence of him redundantly being called swarthy and darker. And so I like it. But, I mean, I said that because, at one point, we we said Omar Negro Atlas. I don't remember what the this is one of the names I wrote down in the Negro was his his wrestling name when he first came to the United States from Venezuela because he was dark skinned, so they called him Omar Negro. Omar Negro. It makes you wanna I've always dreamed of, having the job of the guy at UFC or boxing matches that, you know It's naming introduce you. Omar.
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I tell I tell Chris all the time. You do realize you're in a relationship with a Negro.
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Right. Wow. It's a it's a brave New Year world. And if Sean wants to be the emcee, it probably is like, let's get ready to rumble if that's okay with you all tonight. Right.
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If it's mutually consensual,
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doing that. Can vote your inner child and find out if it's okay if we might maybe possibly rumble.
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Well, I think we need to
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Just let the dogs out. Who let the dogs out? Close the hands up. We let the dogs out. Thank you guys so much. Really appreciate you guys coming in. Welcome back to you. You guys. What a joy this was. Yes. What a plan. You don't have to always come as the featured guest either. So if you, you know, if you're up late and you want to just you see that we're on and you wanna link, you can always send me a text message or or just stay in touch with any of us, and we're glad to have you jump in. And, of course, you don't have to come together. 1 or the other or both is our pleasure to host. So For sure. We send you many, many blessings, and thank you all. You are all doing amazing work. Thank you so much for having us. This has been such an honor and a pleasure. For sure. Great meeting. You so much for your time. Awesome. You guys were great. Great. Spicy subjects. And if you Google The Melt Podcast, you'll find these guys. I'm sure there's a website. It's probably dot.net. You guys wanna promote right before you jump off. Now is a great time if there's something you're doing just
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Benjamin, we would love to have you on the show to talk about, spirogenics. Spirogenics. Spirogenics. Spirogenics. Spirogenics. Spirogenics. Spirogenics. Spirogenics. Spirogenics. Spirogenics. Spirogenics.
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Spirogenics. Spirogenics.
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That's not yeah.
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Spirogenics make me think Spirogenics does sound cool. I wish I knew how to talk about that. Very good. Yeah. Nope. Absolutely. Okay. Meltpugkat.net.
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Connected on Instagram? Just shoot me an Instagram message.
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Yes. I am. I am.
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You on there.
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Yes. I follow you on Instagram. Yeah. Me too. And I am, oh my god, buffy, on Instagram. So it was a pleasure. Thank you, everyone, that was on the, chat. It was riveting to read all of your comments,
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and, we love you guys. Thank you again for having us. Yeah. Thank you so much. We feel very welcome here, and, we will definitely return for sure.
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Awesome. Because we've made you feel too welcome, we do have a very unwelcoming intermission video to even things out. Oh, cool.
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What
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what are your in Instagrams again?
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Mine is, oh my god, Buffy. Okay. And it's actually spelled out, oh my god, or something like that? Is it spelled
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out? Ohmygodbuffy
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is my Instagram handle. Great.
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And I believe mine is the I believe I've gotta check. The_melt_podcast. Awesome. Instagram. Yes.
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So yes. We are hashtag weaving spiders welcome.
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Yes. Yes. Love it. Thank you for letting us in your web. Yes. Our pleasure, guys. We'll talk again. Yes. For sure. Great to have you. Yeah. We'll be in touch. Have a great night, you guys. Tory. Yeah. You too. You
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This next, intermission video will be harsh. It will be something we needed to get through together, and then we can trauma bond
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in a minute. Scare me.
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Oh, it'll be frightening. I agree. Flashing imagery. Oh, it'll be terrible. You guys will get through it, I I hope. Okay. Are we ready for this? Adjust your volume accordingly. It might be loud when it comes in. Here we go. Alright. It's gravy time.
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Alan might be lying. It might be fine, you guys.
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I'm not lying. It's fine, guys.
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The only surprise is telling you something you guys did. You feel it must be for a while. Yeah. I have been told I got eyes in my head. Didn't even see you guys coming. You know? I just you must be spooks. Tell me what? What do we know? What do we know? If I know what we know, then I could tell you what we know and if someone else knows. Okay? I mean, it's it's being specific.
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Oh, who's still with us?
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Hello.
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Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Excuse me. If you've made it this far, we have to warn you. It gets worse from here. It's gonna get a whole lot worse before it could ever get better. Better. Bold gravy.
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Bold gravy.
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There's our warning. Some gravy can cause mouth diarrhea.
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And epilepsy.
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Yes. And epilepsy
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and confusion. Alan Marcus, you guys Laughter.
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Oh, you cute, homie.
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We turned in that assignment pretty quick, didn't we? I think we started working on it Wednesday night. Now it's Saturday.
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Oh, that was amazing. That was amazing. You had me you I almost turned my camera on so you could see how much you were killing me.
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And that was the passion of the Christ you could see at the end where he pulls out the barb from his side after they had injected such bodily harm to Mad Max.
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Yeah. I and and I don't understand how that movie is not kind of the correct but conspiracy theory. How that's not more commonly talked about. It's hilarious. It's it's very hilarious because then, like, anybody that's ever watched conspiracy theory when he's doing performing MK Ultra on Mel Gibson, they call it gravy. And he's forcing the gravy down down his throat, and they play that cartoon in the background where, the old Looney Tunes cartoon where you'd have the 55 gallon drum of gravy, and he'd be pouring it in a funnel and forcing it down the dude's mouth. And, Waterboarding with truth.
Conspiracy. Yeah. Waterboarding with gravy. Yeah. Interesting to see, you know, the movie was literally named conspiracy theory, and then to see that passed around the conspiracy community is just super interesting.
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And we'd forgotten that the term gravy could be misconstrued to mean something as, not desirable or harmful to listeners with sort of the word salad, vomit, diarrhea, kinda sounds good. We gotta fill some time. We're content producers, so we're just gonna talk and talk and talk and talk because we've gotten addicted to it, and it's all we know how to do. Unless we be, pointing the finger, we may have fallen into that ourselves a little bit. So we need to make it right right now. And send no more. You're as well. Thank you. Thank you.
Jim, do you have a copy on DVD of conspiracy theory?
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I had a copy on DVD, and I let, let Sean borrow it. Like, you gotta see this. This is my favorite movie ever. And so, like, we I was at a bar and I gave it to Sean. I was like, you gotta check this out. And he's like, okay. And he had it, like, in his hand for a couple of minutes. And then the the bartender came in, and she was like somebody's like, happy birthday. And she's like, oh, yeah. Thank you. And Sean was like, it's your birthday? She said, yeah. And he said, here you go. Happy birthday. And he, like, hands her my DVD copy of conspiracy theory. And I was like, what did you just do? He's like, oh, it's her birthday. And I was like, I wanted you to watch that.
Sean.
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So, Damn your generosity.
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Damn your generosity.
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And so I still don't even know if Sean's seen it. That's the, that's the question of Have you seen it have you have you seen it, Sean? Have you seen it, Sean? Sean? Sean, where are you? Have you seen it, Sean? Have you seen it, Sean? Yes. Beat Alja.
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Alja. Sorry. You are b as requested.
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I believe that, he was named after the Sean, Sean Connery. Was he really? At least the the spelling of his name is based on Sean Connery.
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Sean Connery. Sean Connery.
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Stand in a for yourself, suck.
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He was named after Zartop Zarlach? What's his name? What's the Zardoz. Zardoz. Zardoz. Zardoz. Oh.
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That was a good outfit. It wasn't good. I mean, it's great outfit. The cod piece? Like, it's not the cod piece that Sting's wearing from fucking Dune, but it's close. Dang. And Dune. It's close. Red Speedo.
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Babe Watch. Wow. Yeah. Did David Hasselhoff ever wear one of those Speedos? Oh, you know he did. On the beach. Did. In the in the in the television show? I don't I don't remember noticing.
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Jason Lindgren sent me this video of David Hasselhoff from some, like it wasn't even a b movie. This was like a a l movie or something. Like, they slapped on all the and this shit is hilarious. He might wear it in that. Gotta love the hog. Like, anybody that enjoyed Mystery Science Theater 3 1,000, this is like somebody that enjoyed that made a movie for it. Like, we are gonna make this movie so cheesy. It's made just to be on Mystery Science Theater 3,000.
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Did we have any other guests? Any other guests in our Zoom waiting rooms?
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Not at the moment. We might have some more visitors tonight. We might have some more visitors.
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Now is the time to She's probably gonna stop in and spite her.
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What?
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My wife is making something for Jamie.
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Yes. Wife is making something for Jamie.
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See, that's why you get that loving mother type. They do good things for you. Make life nice.
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That is a awesome thing.
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A silicone doll will never make you macaroni and cheese. No. We'll never cook you chicken tenders. No,
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But it might make you feel like you're having
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sex with them on the kitchen floor and the dishwasher floods, they short out, and then you gotta go on a whole fucking mission with Melanie Griffith.
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You know? And they Yeah. The dishwasher shorts out. You won't be able to clean them. Did those sandwiches consent to the fingering, Gordy?
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The the fingering sandwiches? Yes.
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It's it's bad enough. We put tooth sticks in sometimes.
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It's finger it's Right.
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We need a sandwich using toothpicks. That's such a phallic symbol of the patriarchy, and there's a lot of waitresses wrapped to serve those sandwiches. And every time they walk down with that tray and people pull off an hors d'oeuvre with that that phallic toothpick. And it's wood, so that reminds everybody of woodies and and boners and stuff. So, again, it's just everywhere, all this sex stuff. It real hard to clean your teeth with donuts.
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So I'm not sure what shape we're gonna replace it with. I just find it hard to clean my teeth with donuts.
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Cheerio. Carry on then. Cheerio.
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So I was trying to find the quote the exact quote, but I can't come up with it fast enough. But one of my favorite quotes of a movie is, from What We Do in the Shadows. I'm trying to remember it. But they're talking about why they like why the vampires like virgins. And he says, well, just imagine if you were having a sub sandwich. You'd just like it if somebody hadn't fucked it before you eat it.
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They're not. Right?
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I think that applies to quiz. No substitute. I mean, on the nose.
[02:30:23] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I wanna clarify on the, conspiracy theory DVD story. Yes.
[02:30:33] Unknown:
That. Yes.
[02:30:35] Unknown:
Now Do you remember the whole policy I learned from another ginger like me way back in the days of high school that went like this as far as imbibing alcohol, taking alcoholic beverages into your body. The rule goes like this. Unless you're crawling up the street, throwing up, and pissing yourself, you're not drunk. You're just buzzing real hard. So in my defense, I wanna say that I was buzzing real hard. It was not for just a few minutes, as I heard Jim describe, that I had been carrying the DVD inside the fold of my jacket where it would fit against the edge of my body. It wouldn't fit in my pocket, so I had it kind of carefully balanced inside the fold of my jacket. And, we had been buying, drinks, and I do believe Jim had even purchased me, extra beers.
And, yes, I do apologize for having given away your copy of conspiracy theory to the bartender, Karen, I think is her name. And I will I will keep it in my mind that it should be replaced since I forgot until now. But we were buzzing pretty hard at that point. Thank you. Almost blue right now. It looks good that I might have actually felt for your first time. 4 k Steelcase. Lower than it should have been. So sorry it took me so long, but I had to make myself a sandwich because I'm starving. Did you watch it? I didn't watch it? Did you fuck the sandwich before you did? I didn't watch it that night because, yeah, the night you gave it to me to hold The personal question, Gordy.
Gave it away over the same night.
[02:32:10] Unknown:
But he could do it whatever whatever he wants with his own sandwich.
[02:32:16] Unknown:
Well, at least you've seen it. Only. Some people
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no. He was gravy.
[02:32:23] Unknown:
Many drops of mayonnaise on that man sandwich.
[02:32:29] Unknown:
Did you watch it? I would rather the mayonnaise on it. It's just dots of mustard. Did you eventually watch it? Yeah. I've seen it. Oh, great.
[02:32:40] Unknown:
It it was an excellent movie.
[02:32:42] Unknown:
It was a great one. It's one of my favorites, Let's say classic. It's classic.
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Is it Julia Roberts running faster on the treadmill playing with horseshoes?
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That's right.
[02:33:01] Unknown:
So what was the theory
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of the movie? Enemy of the state.
[02:33:07] Unknown:
Like, he had been being MK Ultra ed and then released out into the public, and he could remember it. And so, like, he was he was totally into it, and then they would keep an eye on him. And and he basically, he they were almost using him as, like, a a bait. So anybody that had, open enough mind to, listen to him, he they were really most interested in who we talked to. Was he a podcaster? And then, right? Podcasting was not a thing. It was, AOL time. This is what, like, mid nineties. Sure. So maybe it's a AOL people who were only watching other people pee, You know, like, all the hidden pee cameras and stuff and cat videos. That was all that was on the Internet at the time. So no.
But, then, there was also a whole thing where catcher in the rye. He, like, had to buy every copy of it, and there was coding in catcher in the rye and everything, and everything he said was, like, true. My favorite parts when they finally bust in and he's got, like, this crazy mouse trap set up where everything just goes down. Like, his whole apartment, like, just starts blocking them off so they can't get to them, and that that was cool as shit.
[02:34:29] Unknown:
Yeah. I've been setting my house up like that for a while. Doing some
[02:34:32] Unknown:
yeah. I would think about it, but see then, like, I would one night set it off and then I myself. And so then I'm like, no. No. Hail Patriots.
[02:34:41] Unknown:
Hail and well met Patriots.
[02:34:43] Unknown:
Hail Patriots.
[02:34:46] Unknown:
Yeah. Yep. How's the weather?
[02:34:52] Unknown:
I think it's raining outside. Not raining crazy, though. So that inject so that injection, that needle, was that the gravy then? Was the was the gravy in that visual metaphor? Metaphor? Was it the actual injection of an hallucinogen of some kind, or was it combined with the the waterboarding, reverse upside down baptism forced? And then there's the aspect of him in the wheelchair. So he's a bit handicapped. He can't really walk, and they they tape his eyeballs shut, so he's forced to witness all this stuff. Open. Open. They they tape him Eyes wide eyes wide shut.
[02:35:38] Unknown:
Open. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. I I would I would I would say that what that liquid is is to put your brain into an alpha state. So you're not necessarily hallucinating, but you're in an alpha state making you particularly susceptible to implantation is what I would say that that, you know, was for him. And then also, some sort of a truth serum cocktail probably.
[02:36:08] Unknown:
And he just thought there were some gentlemen from NASA.
[02:36:13] Unknown:
That's what you know what? You know, it it was Picard, captain Picard. He should've fucking known.
[02:36:22] Unknown:
The Star Trek psyop continues as people are ready to enlist in starfleet. What is it? Space command? What is what did, Trump form for our new military members? Space force. Space Force. Well, that sounds even more like a video game to me.
[02:36:42] Unknown:
Yeah. Totally an eighties name right there.
[02:36:49] Unknown:
Space Force.
[02:36:52] Unknown:
Will you be forced to go to space?
[02:36:56] Unknown:
Forced to go to space in a sure will? Pictures of them and they're cool. They're cool uniforms. Let everybody know how cool they are.
[02:37:03] Unknown:
Chef Bezos and his brother in blue going to a high altitude with Oliver Damon. And what was her name? Wally Funk. That was a fun episode of Weaving Spire's Welcome. If anyone can remember that episode, we have the youngest man and the oldest woman with the Bezos brothers flying to space. That's a headline, certainly. The truth of the matter, did they actually go all the way? I mean, Wally Funk and this 18 year old blue blonde head blue eyed boy, did they do it in space together in front of the Bezos brothers?
[02:37:46] Unknown:
Like a, like, kind of bell worship.
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Mhmm.
[02:37:52] Unknown:
Mother goddess and her son and a little castration.
[02:38:03] Unknown:
Awesome. It's a it's a strange world we live in indeed.
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Do you think they did it in space?
[02:38:14] Unknown:
Well, how are we defining space? Like, meet like, meet space in the flesh, or do you think they went up there and used their cell phones to send each other, you know, messages back and forth about what they were doing to each other in their imagination. Do they actually consummate it? It's possible. Base. Well, high up in the sky,
[02:38:39] Unknown:
maybe. Yeah. That's a good question.
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8 Mile High Club.
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Welcome. Who is this voice we hear?
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It's it's a poltergeist.
[02:38:52] Unknown:
Sounds a lot like the Andy Kron avatar to me.
[02:38:55] Unknown:
Well, say they're coming quick or they're here.
[02:38:59] Unknown:
They're here.
[02:39:01] Unknown:
They're here.
[02:39:05] Unknown:
Way creepier when when Marcus Allen did it.
[02:39:14] Unknown:
I got a I'm not feeling too good. I have a cold, so I was like, not really camera.
[02:39:21] Unknown:
I'm kinda camera shy today. But Okay. Under under the weather and over the moon? Yes. We we we didn't have any clips, I think, yesterday on Cinco de Cinco de Mayo.
[02:39:35] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:39:39] Unknown:
Mhmm. Hay fever, pollen in the air. What could it be?
[02:39:43] Unknown:
Never know. That's definitely part of it. There is and especially in California because it's been so wet, we have a whole lot more. Like, usually, it's almost or since I've lived here anyways, it's like a cutoff. It starts raining. It does a little bit of spring stuff, and then it's done. And now this year, it's it's all over the damn place. There there's so much, fungus and Sure. Mold and all in all happening at once?
[02:40:11] Unknown:
After all the snow melted in my backyard, there was a layer covering the entire lawn where the grass had been of this strange fiber like, fungus like growth under the snow, and it took a few days of direct sunshine to kinda clear all that up. I don't know what it was. Cellium.
[02:40:32] Unknown:
Yeah. It's my psyllium. What what you wanna do is go collect that Mhmm. Some of that and put it in a bucket with a, like, a fish bubbler and some sea salt and a big couple baked potatoes, and that'll make a real nice biome. And then you tuck that onto your compost pile, and it gets that compost pile to break down quick. So that was that was eating up the old organic material that was underneath the so it was warm enough out. Your ground layer was warm enough that the the it was able to become alive and eat up that organic material. It was it was kinda shiny, though. So I was just gonna go with the idea that it was most likely aluminum barium and
[02:41:14] Unknown:
whatever else was in those, chemtrails up in the sky that were in the south well, no. I mean,
[02:41:20] Unknown:
hear me out. I mean, it's I know it's a good idea. I I knew it. It's got a very it almost looks like, as crystallized asbestos. Yes. It almost looks like asbestos. Real pretty. Mhmm. Very fiber looking. Almost pearlescent and chewy. Okay.
[02:41:37] Unknown:
Yeah. It was sugar. My selenium.
[02:41:39] Unknown:
Yeah. You wanna keep that, and that's real good to put in your compost. If you're starting to do permaculture, that's gonna be your best thing to create a soil biome, because that's the native, mycelium. And so what you're putting in there is something that's already used to these conditions, and you're just gonna you're just gonna keep amping that up until your until the stomach of your soil your soil is the plant's stomach is just chewing through everything and breaking it down into the minerals that the plant can uptake. And so that's a vital part of permaculture.
[02:42:22] Unknown:
I thought it was gonna cause Alzheimer's.
[02:42:26] Unknown:
It might do that. Okay.
[02:42:30] Unknown:
I was very careful with it.
[02:42:32] Unknown:
We had a layer of Only a sand or, like, pink snow here, the last snow that we had, which is a couple weeks ago. And snow. It was really weird. I don't know if it was, like, sand got in the clouds from somewhere else or if it was something chemical they were spraying. Or
[02:42:59] Unknown:
Very interesting. Indeed. Sharing a link to a few friends here. Is Zoom room open?
[02:43:19] Unknown:
The Zoom room is open.
[02:43:26] Unknown:
Check Telegram if you've asked me for 1.
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Sorry. I'm eating. So
[02:43:33] Unknown:
I'm kind of yeah. Eating.
[02:43:39] Unknown:
Eating is good. I got some, soft white goat cheese with honey in it, and some, gluten free pretzels.
[02:43:55] Unknown:
Reese's Reese's Pieces here.
[02:44:00] Unknown:
Oh.
[02:44:02] Unknown:
I have some sparkling peach juice.
[02:44:06] Unknown:
Sounds good. I'm eating the last of my spicy chips, and then I have 3, cookies.
[02:44:15] Unknown:
Nice.
[02:44:16] Unknown:
What are you guys at home eating? Threw it in the chat.
[02:44:21] Unknown:
Yeah. Let us know what is in your engraving tonight. You can just take your food, put it in a blender, and then sip it all through a straw. It makes it easier to consume
[02:44:35] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. If you're not eating, then go get some food and eat during the second part of the broadcast. This is an order from one of the lead spiders, F. B.
[02:44:44] Unknown:
Alger. Right. It's difficult to watch the visual livestreams when you have a fork in your hand, So I try to stick to audio only, listening, audiobooks and podcasts when I'm eating dinner, and that's a good time to consume content, I think. But the visual stuff, that's a little hard because I'm having to look at my my plate unless I put it all in a blender and just kinda blend it all together, and then I can sip it through a sippy straw.
[02:45:10] Unknown:
We've got dandelions, a bomb pop, bread and honey, leafs for gut biome, pineapple, cheese, burrito, and we'll make a tres leche cake. Wow. Emilio man is taking it to the next level. Having a burrito and gonna make a cake. Woah. Dang. Yeah. We we can celebrate some good avocado chips and ginger ale. They're blowing it up, folks. People are eating roast duck leg with fried cabbage, onions, carrots,
[02:45:37] Unknown:
onions. Some of these are wish list or grocery list. Gonna write some of these an acorn squash. Rebecca Broom wins so far for, like, what sounds like the most gourmet and elaborate meal. So we have some mycelium here. Is that edible, or is that an edible?
[02:45:53] Unknown:
I I wouldn't necessarily eat it, but I'm sure it's fine. But all that I did was go and, where we have all the downed trees, this really nicely starts developing. And you see this kind of shiny silver? Yeah. Mhmm. So that's where it's, that's where the mycelium's starting to develop. And I just go and take a like, when I wanna go do it, I just go rip apart tree, and there's usually a nice right now, there isn't much because it's been real cold here. But in, like, 2 weeks, the insides, they'll just be covered in it. You just take a nice chunk of that, throw it in there with your, baked old baked potato and some, you got you wanna use sea salt. You don't wanna use your iodized salt. You wanna use sea salt to do it, and then a fish bubbler, and you give that you give that a few days, and you'll start seeing where all of a sudden you'll get real foamy. And that foam is life coming into play.
So you betcha.
[02:46:54] Unknown:
Yeah. This will make the tomatoes taste like tomatoes.
[02:46:58] Unknown:
This is how we It'll make it so that way your, soil the nutrients in your soil become available for the plant. That's what it's doing.
[02:47:10] Unknown:
Because that's why I stopped going to Subway because every time I'd order a tomato sandwich, the tomatoes just taste under the water. Your sandwich? That is well, first of all, it was the robot ordering thing. I get in the drive thru and I have to roll down the window and start touching the screen. I'm like, who else has touched the screen? And then it orders extra beverages and bags of chips and things. And by the time, I'm like, just cancel the entire order. I wanna drive away. I'm still hungry. And then my tomato just tastes like water. Just tastes like bad public water.
[02:47:42] Unknown:
There's no tomato flavor to it. It says, yeah, the tomato has been develled before it grew.
[02:47:50] Unknown:
Right. Right. Welcome, birds. We have a bird
[02:47:55] Unknown:
Welcome. Oh, man. Thank you, everyone. It's a true honor to be here. I'm just trying to I'm just vibing with everyone right now, and, I love when I'm here. And it's it's 11111 where I am at this very moment and, much gratitude to everyone. I it's a honor to be with these legends. And, Yeah, man. Keep going. I'll chime in, and I'll try to stay out of the way, man. You guys are awesome. Thank you.
[02:48:20] Unknown:
Hell. Hell.
[02:48:24] Unknown:
Get in the way as much as you want. There's plenty of room.
[02:48:29] Unknown:
This is this is the after party. We're all just still trying to recover from the first two hours. Yeah. This is we're we're very melted. Brain melting, certainly. Right. And we didn't warn people before the stream started that. It was probably one that you'd wanna have headphones on, kind of an 18 plus sort of thing. It was more, spicy and racy than the episode 69 we did together.
[02:48:55] Unknown:
Mhmm. Dude, you know, you mentioned Subway, and it's like, is everything made of cardboard in a place like that? I mean, that is any of any molecule of anything in that establishment based on any real. I mean, you know what I mean? You don't even know what the meat is. It's just who knows? Like, roach shavings and and just cedar.
[02:49:23] Unknown:
Don't hurt it. They can't even call the the bread. They can't even call the bread bread because it's got so much sugar in it. It legally Mhmm. Is considered a cake.
[02:49:33] Unknown:
It's What do you do mom nowadays.
[02:49:36] Unknown:
I mean, gosh. Is that true, Wim? I didn't know that. Yes. It is true. And didn't they test their
[02:49:41] Unknown:
salmon sandwich or some fish sandwich, and there was no fish in it whatsoever? Yeah. I remember hearing that. Yeah.
[02:49:48] Unknown:
They do add a lot of soy to Tuna? Canned tuna. So they'll label it as tuna as it is tuna flavored, tuna water, but a lot of the meaty substance in some of those cans of packages does tend to be kind of more of a tofu. Oh. And I I remember I had cracked open a can of tuna, you know, in the nineties, and there was a, like, a bone or really hard piece that should have not, been in the can. And it really turned me off to tuna for a long time, but now tasting the cheap tuna that is soy product, it it's more tofu. They should label it tofu and not tuna.
[02:50:31] Unknown:
So they can make a thing. They can make these artificial here's a fish. Oh, guess what? It's not a but they'll make it look like a fish. But they can do that with anything. Lettuce, tomatoes, bread. It's like Mhmm. This very strange tech you know, we're going to this weird and getting farther disconnected from obvious the soil. Like, I heard Balderson talking about the soil and just things like the microbes and all that. They go, you don't need any of that. We're gonna go to some weird sci fi movie dystopian thing that we've all been prepped over the decades with. Like, I'm sorry. I see that anything artificial and I'm gonna just state some obvious stuff. Mhmm. Anything and everything that is artificial will fail.
Now it can fail gracefully, or it can fail not so gracefully. But anything that is artificial, truth that's not truth in nature will fail. It's just you know? So this fakery and this weird, like, thing they're trying to create, it doesn't vibe with me, and I it will fail. But I find a, like, a parallel society coming through. I see the light beings, and, you know, the tribes uniting and the frequency is attracting and the law of attraction, like attracts like. I see a totally powerful group of a second different group than that than that weird 15 minute city type stuff where you don't own anything and all that. We you know?
It includes the food. That's how I got that's how I got here, obviously. So I see a whole parallel society, and I feel like it interesting times, man. It's it's truly wild. So I I recommend everyone learn those skills. I always say, like well, I started recently saying openly, like, be dangerous. You know? What's that what does that mean? Does that mean being walking around with a bunch of knives? No. That means being totally independent, standing up for your own, being powerful, and any any of get in the way of anyone that's trying to harm the herd. You're a you're a protector of the herd, and that's a dangerous being.
So so equip yourself with growing your own food. Equip yourself with this knowledge. Equip yourself with all the things, and you go, I don't need anything from you. Go away. You know, that is a very powerful being. That's a dangerous being to Self sufficiency all the way. Yeah. Yeah. To to the matrix, to those that have these, ideas that are not in your best interest, you're dangerous to them. You're you're a hero to others. You're dangerous to them. And guess what? So what?
[02:53:19] Unknown:
Some days, it feels like the last 3 years were an exercise in elevating the absurd so that by 2023, people are going to realize that there are 0 to negative benefits in living in highly densely populated urban metropolis areas. You know, it's better to spread out. And Wednesday, we were looking at the orphan train book and the idea of having all these people settling in on the East Coast. They're getting into those port cities, and they're not spreading out further beyond that. Mhmm. So then they had all these tenement buildings. They had parents who were working in the factory 12 hours on, 12 hours off, 6 days a week, and parents dying, children just on the street.
And then, you know, you're 12 years old and you tried as an adult.
[02:54:15] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. I mean, that's why it's well, in that case capitally. It's difficult capitally.
[02:54:22] Unknown:
Right. You stole something from the grocery store. We saw you do it immediately. You're hung on the street, and all the children are invited to watch you die,
[02:54:33] Unknown:
beheadings, that sort of thing. Well, you know punishing a kid and putting him in juvie is one thing. Fucking hanging a kid? Holy shit. You wanna talk about trauma? Trauma is your friend fucking Joe that just got hung yesterday for stealing an orange. That's trauma. You don't and I really want an orange today. Holy shit.
[02:54:54] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. And before like, Marcus, I wanna touch on you you touched on something earlier. Imagine us in 2020. I don't I'm sure about you guys. In my Mhmm. I was like a hermit in my hermit phase for a decade long hermit phase. But I was talking to my friends going, and we were literally trying to be silly and go, oh, guess what they're gonna do next? And it's like, we'll tell each other, hey. They're already doing that. Like, we were trying to come up with the most absurd. Right. And my and it was like, we're trying to be funny, right, with each other. It goes, hey. Guess what? That's an actually a thing. I'm like, our imagination couldn't even go into the goofiness that has been applied, like, actually applied. And it's just like, oh my gosh. What is this? A different phase of the video game.
But, but yeah. Yeah. Sorry. I didn't want I just had to get No. That's perfect. And it was shocking how people just
[02:55:50] Unknown:
went along to get along, and they're told, you know, it's a good idea to separate standing 6 feet apart. Here are the places you can stand at the checkout, 6 feet apart, you know, cover your face, all these new rituals and ideas that were just overnight introduced. Yeah.
[02:56:12] Unknown:
Bless you all. Like,
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We don't
[02:56:16] Unknown:
The agenda 21 thing and the orphan train like, you're talking about the orphan trains and then trying to disperse the kids. But then with agenda 21, they want it to be you know, gather everybody into the bigger cities so that, you know, they can kind of implement these other tactics more easily, like, you know, shooting a fish in a barrel type of mentality.
[02:56:49] Unknown:
Sure. So there seems to be this idea of, becoming fearful of landowners with, weaponry. They're they're they're armed. Right? And if you drive into the wrong driveway to deliver an Uber Eats or something, you know, you might you might face down the barrel of a gun because you drove into the wrong driveway. So there's this sort of fear built up about, you know, what's going on outside the cities, but then there's also fear built on what's happening in the city. So there's fear everywhere. And if they're developing this idea of a 15 minute city and they're locking it down and they're going to keep everyone within, you know, a mile or 2 of their place of residence, well, they're projecting that forward to let people know that this is a possibility.
So if you wanna move out of the city, now is a great opportunity to do so, which could act as a population dispersal method to spread people out again. People are so, congregated in the same spots, and people need a little bit of space. They need some fresh air. They need their own garden to grow in. They need space. And even in these towns where they're building these townhouses and apartment buildings, well, I think we can spread those out a little further. Have people spread out so they have space.
[02:58:11] Unknown:
There's lots of space to coming to Arizona.
[02:58:15] Unknown:
On the same token, she was in the chat earlier, but I don't think she is anymore. Like, if you talk to Emily Moyer, she had no desire to get that space. And and Emily is a very intelligent, well spoken person who, I enjoy very much. And, she has no desire to. She finds country life extremely weird. It drives her nuts. She can't possibly imagine what I what I enjoy just the same as I possibly can imagine what she enjoys. Like, I walk into a city. I am looking for a way out of this fucking trap the minute I get there. Like, dear god, why did I do this? Like, okay. I gotta get my groceries, and I am going home. I, like, I go into the grocery store. I'm like the terminator. I know exactly where every item I'm gonna get is, and I'm out of here.
[02:59:05] Unknown:
Surgical.
[02:59:06] Unknown:
Mhmm. I'm saying it's a blessing because look at all the people that have woken up. Got all them people that have started questioning the bullshit. Like, all these people, even in my office, people are starting to question. These complete, like, Hunter was talking about the MPCs or the people that aren't thinking for themselves. They're like, holy shit. This is I can't I I can't even believe it. You know? Like, are you kidding me? You just woke up. Welcome. I'm glad. I'm glad you're all here. Hey. Shut up. Stop, please. Please. Sorry about the dogs. Guys.
[02:59:48] Unknown:
What do the dogs wanna say? Gordie, let the dog speak. We're awake. We're awake, Gordie. We know it's bad. Speak. See what they put in our food. That's what the dogs are saying. Right. Exactly.
[02:59:58] Unknown:
Hey. Sorry. I'm feeding your shitty food. You think human food is bad? Giving them fat. Try canned dog food.
[03:00:06] Unknown:
Not canned gravy.
[03:00:08] Unknown:
I was doing a lot of canned dog food, but I was late to the party tonight because I had to go to the store and pick up every bag of instant gravy I could find.
[03:00:18] Unknown:
Chris, did you get those gravy packets ready? Yep. The the the turkey ones are harder to find. 55 gallon drum? The beef ones are a little easier to find. I even bought out KFC.
[03:00:29] Unknown:
I went through every KFC in town.
[03:00:32] Unknown:
That white gravy. But all your gravy. Gravy? It's it's white gravy, and maybe there's pepper in it, and you can put it over a biscuit. It's a continental breakfast country style gravy.
[03:00:46] Unknown:
That's the best thing I know. Thing I have to say about 15 minutes cities
[03:00:50] Unknown:
the other thing I have to say about 15 minutes cities is they exist. I everybody's acting like this is some new thing, but anybody that's been into any major city, you can walk to the grocery store. You can walk to the gas station. You can most people can ride a bike to work. Like, back in the nineties, Boulder Boulder, Colorado was trying to pass laws where cars weren't, allowed in the city, and you had to take a bicycle because everything was available from bicycle according to them.
[03:01:23] Unknown:
Do you know what's the You have to ride the bicycle yourself? Does someone ride the bicycle for you when you sit in the back? Like the Asian the Asian dude? You know? You expect some of those people never been to the pedal their own bicycle?
[03:01:37] Unknown:
Richter.
[03:01:39] Unknown:
Yeah. Oh, hey. Jamie Jamie, in the chat pointed out a while ago now that, you you can click the thumbs up button. We got 64 people watching. We'd love to get a like because it does push us out into the algorithm better. Sorry for interrupting. But we forget sometimes to tell people, but it really does help if you click the thumbs up. If you're enjoying the conversation, please give us a like. Anyways.
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Yeah. Guys, show that love and appreciation, you know, merely that currency exchange. Hit some buttons on the inner tubes. But, I I want I gotta chime in on what Gordy was saying, and I wanna get your guys' take. So, yeah, nowadays, you mentioned to your coworkers or whoever you interact with, you go, hey. The president is a hologram or something, like, along those lines, it doesn't sound so out there anymore. They're not gonna be like like you know, that is a strange benefit to, did you know that that's not actual the president of the United States of America? That's like some other thing. Body doubles, actors. Body doubles, CGI, clones, if you wanna go and and it's not so discouraged, Alan, Marcus, my friend. Mhmm. And he's in 2019, you mentioned that they'll go, get out of here, weirdo. But now they're kinda, like, 5050.
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My kind of response to that would be I know earlier, Alan mentioned how everyone in the bios has hashtag mental health awareness. So as soon as mental health awareness goes up, conspiracy's acceptance goes up as well. I'm not saying it's one thing or the other. I'm just saying that there is a graph that you could lay out where those spikes go up together. And maybe if we look at that, that division, that separation, that left and right brain separation, there could be something near as a society.
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Like, it what goes around the background?
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Fully fully agree that that that they're gonna go in spikes. What what concerns me also then is they understand when these spikes are coming, and that's when they put, limited hangout agents and, you know, disinformation agents out and push them to the forefront because they understand the spikes coming and that people are gonna start seeking alternative information. And so they give them as much bad alternative information as they can.
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Totally.
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Yeah.
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It's like this is one thing that I've learned in life. If you're getting searched, like, your car or your house, if it's messy enough, they'll just give up because they can't scroll through all that.
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Yeah. No one wants to They are lazy. To a hoarder's house. That's the, that's the reason we have, you know, 6 hour live streams. Who's gonna comb through a 6 hour live stream to find something? We'll give him, lots of nonsense all throughout. So it's context clues are so important. You you can't really take, I've tried, believe me, 5 minutes of any stream and then put it on any other platform for it to make any sense. There's a whole journey that needs to be undergone. You have to see the introduction video. You have to listen to the music. You have to reflect on that and go through the first half and then get to that intermission, and then watch that again and again and again and again until you get enough of the gravy.
Chris, tell us about the the gravy effects, the wavy gravy. How do you Oh, yeah.
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That would that would I hope you guys enjoyed that. That took so long to actually get. That was actually so Alan has sent me his version of the video. I was like, cool. There's not enough gravy. If we're going gravy, we're going full gravy. We need this video wavy, baby. It needs to So jiggle. What I did was I layered the video on top of each other in after effect, this editing program. And so there's 3 copies of the same video. And each layer, I added a different effect that blobbed it up in a different way. So you're watching the video 3 times altogether, but one is glopping one way, the other glopping the other way.
The other one's going all kaleidoscope. So you had different layers peeling back the gravy. Nice. Because, you know, when gravy gets gets settled on top of, like, you say your mashed potatoes for a while Right. Right. Kind of get hard at the top, kind of like when you're milking a cow and the the chunky stuff's at the top. Sure. I wanted to make it to be like, oh, well, you got the liquid gravy at the bottom,
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but then you How many how many times did you watch the video playback? Multiple times? I I know I've watched that many, many times just to get everything right. So it wasn't a complete assault on all of the senses, which is to say full disclosure, I've overgravified myself. My brain is just liquid from the past 3 days of just trying to get that video only
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correct. Oh, gravy.
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Oh,
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I I go from my my brain too trying to render just to render
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everything. To get all those golden rings in line for Mel Gibson in his wheelchair to collect them all before pushing the guy out the window. A lot of work went into that, so I hope everyone watches it as often as possible. Just keep replaying it over and over again until you see all the details that are in there. And we we do need to mention again, the spring video essay contest remains open because I think it's still spring. We haven't officially declared to be summer yet. We're doing the 4 seasons calendar. So we're still in the spring season.
If you guys are new here and you haven't seen the past few episodes, they also include video introductions in which we want to inspire all the creatives and that creativity inside of you too. And tell us what you see in these video introductions and especially what it means to you. They are designed as a cryptographic puzzle with elements to say that there might be a passphrase. If you can see what it is, you might be able to distill it down into a sentence or to a few words to say, this is what the passphrase is related to that specific video, and leave those comments below. We do have a prize pool. We wanna give some stuff away. Digital prizes, virtual prizes, and we have a PO box as well for the snail mail. There's many ingredients
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to the gravy. It's not just all Mel Gibson.
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Oh, nice. Right.
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No. There's also the fat guy that just sits there and drinks the bowl of gravy while his dad tells him how it's ruining his life. Yeah. That that was fantastic. Birds, where are you from?
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Where am I from? Yeah. It's from the Internet, man. I'm familiar with that. Yeah. I was asking
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How did you come to the spiders? How did you find us?
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That's a good question. I don't know. I've been, I somehow you know, I ride the I ride the wave, and the wave brought me to to you guys. And, we are all very connected in this the web. You know what I'm saying? And I think of it as more of a fabric. So, you know, I feel very comfortable around you guys. I know I'm, like, new here just, you know, in this kind of way, but, I feel very, like, I'm among, like, like minded beings. You know what I mean? And we are we do have our all diff our different, powers. But, yeah. You know, I just vibe with, I vibe with you guys. I vibe with Interverse and Slick and Ride you know, the homie, Romy, and all those all those, folks for a while now.
And, again, I was in my hermit phase, and I came out of, my hermit phase to go. I have a feel in my heart too. I have messaged I gotta share with with the public what I had, what I, you know, what's inside, you know what I'm saying? I couldn't go hermit anymore and I feel like that relates with a lot of people, actually. It's not just me. I don't think that's, like, a unique the energies have changed. So I'm if you the realm is changing and you're not like I said last night, if the realm's changing and you're not changing, you're gonna have a very hard time. So they only make sense. I feel the realm has changed. So, I appreciate you guys, man. And, Gordy, I appreciate you, brother. And, again, I'm just kinda come I'm still coming out, and I appreciate being here, man. I'm I'm honored. And I want and I wanted to ask Alan, like, your videos that you make, I you know? Yeah. How long does it take you to make those things, man? Because the layers of I love Right. Layers, and I miss a lot. I'm not gonna lie. Alan, I'm not gonna lie. I miss a lot. You guys share stuff, and I'm gonna get 10%. I miss 90% of the great Some of these some of these videos I've been working on for over 40 years. It takes a lifetime
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to consume all this bad content and then try to put it together in a way that raises the level of absurdity to kinda question the tone if we're showing a video about Mel Gibson and conspiracy and gravy. But yet for the past 18 months, you know, we've been using that. It's like, oh, good gravy, guys. Good good synchro mysticism, good diving, good wordplay, good puns, good anagrams. And we have fun with that. Sure. But then we had completely forgotten at some point that could also be used as a tool in a blunt force trauma to the head. I mean, it could be a fun tickle stick where people are giggling because it's silly, but it could also just tickle someone in the worst possible way so that they pee their pants in front of everybody and completely embarrass themselves, you know, and that's really kind of the message there being that with Mel Gibson going on his little radio broadcast, and he's recording his, factoids and things and his conspiracy theories and his ideas about how the world works, and that's kind of a dangerous thing.
And now it's 2023 and 2020
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has a conspiracy podcast?
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Well, that wasn't that in his That was in the the movie. Right? Because he because he was on the airwaves. I you meant, like, real. I'm like, what? Thing is wonder. Well, we can start rumors too. We started off rumor. The delusion becomes true, and then Mel Gibson's talking to us on a Saturday night on a weaving spider's welcome.
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And then 2 weeks later he brings Corey Feldman.
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Right. After the release of passion, the Christ 2. In the movie wander Yeah. Mhmm. With Wander.
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Wander. And the second Amazon movie. Second one is he come back as like a fucking poltergeist and and haunt. Like, you little dirty fuckers. You turn there. Nope.
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Wander the movie. Conspiracy
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theory in, like, he was a his character was a tinfoil hat type guy. You know? Was it, like, page was the movie called, like, paycheck or something? I feel like Julia Roberts was in it, and he was like a he had a split personality. You know, he's crazy, but conspiracies. They shot you guys. This is, like, 30 years ago, I think, but it still was a good movie.
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And Gordy's talking about a movie called wander wander.
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Wander.
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Wander. The
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Amazon movie. On top of Alan's 40 years, you have my 20 plus years of stuff as well. So together, we have what, almost, like, 45 to almost 50 years between us of just
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Yeah. Right? What is the movie I wonder what what what is the movie title, Gordy? The movie It has such a forgettable title.
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It is a very forgettable title. It was, kinda soft it was released on Amazon, just just kind of thrown out there, but it was started Mhmm. Tommy Lee Jones and Aaron Eckhart both played, 2 faced in the Batman movies.
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Okay.
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In this, they are he has a conspiracy podcast, late night show on the Internet talking about conspiracies, and he is implant finds out that he is implanted by the government. And there's a government program underneath this, gas station where this guy finds out all these secrets to his own life. He's he is locked up as a nut job. There it is.
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It's the town called wander?
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Mhmm. Takes place in the four corners area on the Navajo Reservation. Where are you? Also lived once. As
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in Power Rangers?
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Yeah. Saving films. 7. Interesting.
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It was just kind of just tossed out there on Amazon, but Sure. Didn't get it much press, but it started these big names. And it has the chick from Vikings in it. Can't remember her name. And I think she's pregnant, but they're trying to hide it. Anyway, dumb detail. But he finds that he is implanted and digs it out of himself at the end. Spoilers.
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Implant movie wander.
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Yeah. I'm gonna download this later.
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He was also men in black. He was an agent.
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He was an agent. Exactly.
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And he was also a post office worker. Jones.
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Tommy Lee Jones. Tommy Lee
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Jones. Three names. Tommy Lee Jones.
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Was in, Air Force 1 as the president.
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Was that that Was it Aaron Eckhart? Movie.
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Was it Aaron Eckhart a president too? Is that a Tom Clancy
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film, Air Force 1? Well,
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maybe. It's been a I haven't watched it since I was, like, 13. So
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Air force ones Educate yourself. Harrison 4 You didn't go that way. Not a Tom Clancy thriller. Okay. Movies used to be fun.
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Movies used to be a lot fun to me. I had to sit through, Elvis last night, the movie that came out recently this past year.
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Hanks was in that. Elvis.
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And If you think of some of the decodes in movies like, Back to the Future Mhmm. I mean, they were pushing, where we was it just our age, the observer? Because they've been pushing their, you know, embedded things into the Hollyweirds for a long time now. Now maybe because I was young, I was just enjoying back to the future. You know?
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There is the organic process of screenwriters coming together to make a movie, an individual who's got an idea, an auteur whose vision goes to the screen where he writes it, no one else interjects, he's got final say on the plot, and then he gets final edit on the movie. There's that element of it's his movie. He puts his name on the movie. It's a movie by Mel Gibson, whatever it is. But then there's also this element of concern about Laurel Canyon and Hollywood Babylon. And in the military movies, we can cite the fact that if you want to make the battleship film with Rihanna and you wanna use actual battleships, then you have to have this sort of agreement and partnership with US military.
So if the US military is in your movie, will they need to appear as probably the heroes in the movie a lot of the times?
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Yeah. But the question and the question we're asking Tom Hanks is probably as nice as they make him out to be. Mhmm. He's probably, like, a really awesome guy. That's why they always put him in such awesome roles, and I'm gonna keep saying that until Cheney comes in. We can talk Tom Hanks so much. Tom Hanks. And his beautiful wife. I think her name's Rita.
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Such a nice guy. He probably deserves a Nobel prize. He spends so much time alone on islands playing volleyball or soccer ball.
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It's interesting we're talking about Hollywood right now because of the riders strike. And They're doing that again. Of the riders strike that's happening right now.
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What? Who cares? Who fucking cares? They haven't made anything good in 40 years.
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Fuck. Well, the I Part of the riot strike curve because But even the n n NHL is fixed. Guys, we're getting excited. Is agent k a reference to Ketamine in MediBlanc? It could be. It could be.
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But the the the rider strike Buzz starts singing the bosom body theme song, JD.
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You
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you go attract the whole How does it go? Yeah. AI Reminds me. Reminds me. Reminds me. Manner. Can can AI scan someone's identity, their voice in their writing, or their the way that they paint and recreate it. And is that fair?
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Well, that that plays into the imposter syndrome. There's this idea that, well, AI is gonna take all the creative jobs. So humans who are in creative fields need to learn to code, and they need to become truck drivers or figure out how they're going to, you know, learn, the the new technology of the automation of the industrial factory setting or become an Amazon employee or something. And yet no. No. No. No. No. The most the most creative humans have ideas that are soulful. And come home. Soulful ideas, Gordy. That's what we're talking about here. Yeah.
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He knows. What I thought about laughter. Love. All this movie. Because all that referred to me was they're playing on all the Elvis conspiracies.
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Was there a twin in the movie? Does anyone really care about Was Elvis born? Conspiracies anymore? Twin.
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Like, it's been so many years. Why, why are you trying to reinforce them or and make this movie? Like
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Yeah. It's Dave Holmes. Jersey. It's too soon to do the David Bowie files.
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Isn't it isn't that the thing, though? That that was the the point of the newest Elvis movie, wasn't it? It was about the colonel. He played the colonel. I don't know because
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they showed they showed JFK's assassination more than they show Priscilla. So how does the JFK assassination play into Elvis' story more than his wife?
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Priscilla, that's the person who with Aquila or tent makers in the old testament. What kind of name is Priscilla for a girl? Are you trying to punish your child? When writers give names to characters like Hitler or what's his first name? Adolf. We have, like, Adolfus Gustavus College. I'm sure they're gonna be okay. Are they gonna need to change your name? This idea that a symbol has power, and once it's used for the most evil, then nobody else can use it because they're gonna associate themselves with evil. That's sort of a difficult thing to think about.
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Elvis, can there be another Elvis? And then if you're gonna do that Can there be another Madonna? Empower them? Doesn't that really easily empower them to take away anything that's gonna empower you? Because then all they have to do is make a association, and you're like, no. Can't use that no more. Like the word conspiracy
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theory, I can't use that anymore in my ass shakers because people are gonna think I'm my nutter, and I can't show my family that I'm on Weaving Spider's welcome because they might not understand. They're not there yet.
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Think. It's not illegal yet. This is close to it. Probably.
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Who knows? How many chickens are left?
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We started with 7. Every podcast now are hashtagging their, their post to advertise for their podcast as hashtag conspiracy theory.
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Mhmm.
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So now it's it'll it'll be easy for them to oh, well, anyone that uses hashtag since Right. You wanna go find now. We're being spider's welcome.
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Remember when the hashtag was pound sign?
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Pound on the telephone star 69. Yeah. I remember landlines. Telephones, phone freaking, getting freaking a phone booth, changing into your Superman underwear. Is that what we're talking about?
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Sure. Phone booths are kinda yeah. Why did they get rid of all those?
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Because in the movie, the matrix, that's how you get out through the phone
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book. Good point.
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I have a question for Andy.
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Uh-oh.
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Uh-oh. What's your thoughts on the white Medusa?
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I haven't found anything. I pretty much watched that movie and then tried to take a nap afterwards, and it didn't work. Sam, movie? So we're gonna talk about Spice World. And Oh, okay. Josephine. Are gonna talk tonight? Or We'll talk about it a little bit. There is a phone booth in there.
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It's awesomely sized on the inside. Does the outside doesn't match the spatial dimensions of the inside?
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Well, it's only Doctor Who won.
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Guitarist. Andy, to my attention
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Oh, and to add The flip the
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the the flip side of the black Madonna is the white Medusa,
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and
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that really caught my attention. So I was, I was just curious if she's thought about it in anymore at the moment.
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Not too much. No. Yeah. There's, it's just very subtly nodded at in that movie. And then, kind of the rest of my notes were a lot about, you know, MK Ultra kind of stuff and color coding and a lot of different, things going on there. But it it's so weird that it's really hard to find, to stream anywhere. Like, every other movie, you could find it to stream anywhere or, like, at least pay for it to stream it. Right? But for this for some reason, Spice World, you can't find it, like, hardly anywhere. Because I want I was like, well, we'll just try to watch it on my TV.
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So then licensing rights limbo hell where it's just no one wants to take responsibility for
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letting anybody else see that movie ever again? Well, possibly because, I mean, it is just a retelling of the Beatles, a hard day is not in. Was it released to DVD?
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Was it a VH VHS only affair?
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I said was it 90 7 or 99 that it was 97. Okay. So it might have gotten to a DVD.
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Could be on DVD. We'll need to scour the thrift stores to find these movies.
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Yeah. Definitely do because I totally found a Mandela effect in there too. And to to for the revealing of that, you'll have to watch the king of cups episode.
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Yeah. Speaking of the Mandela effect, I I saw a video yesterday, I believe it was, that in the beat it music video, me and Michael Jackson beat it when he's in the bar and he is dancing around the pool table and he puts his hand on the pool tables, Every you can see every pool table in the bar, none of them have pockets.
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Yeah. But did MJ, like, maybe set that up so that he was, like, pointing to, like because the the line that, like because you sent me the video where you found that. These, like, snickerdoodle. Says says something about not winning or something. So I was like,
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maybe he's, like, trying to point at This was pointed out 11 years ago on Reddit, And we're just remembering it. It's not pool. What is it then? Is it a poker table?
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Snooker.
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Yeah. Snooker.
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Snook that's a snookeroodle table. Snookeroodle table. So I said earlier.
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It's way classier than pool.
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The is it like billiards? You just knock the balls around?
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All balls and no holes. It's called it's called Carom. Car it's called Carom. Yep.
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Okay. That make okay. That makes sense.
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Oh, yeah. That's the first response. 11 years ago on Reddit, Karen Billows. Billiards.
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Yeah. Snooker still has Snooker still has pockets. Karen doesn't.
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So billiards is played on a table without pockets, and pool is played on a table with pockets is the difference between billiards and snooker. Well, here's an owl right here. Karim.
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Look at that.
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Hearst Castle interior from the Casa Grande, San Simeon Ranch, California. I've got a book on this. Ran was it William Randolph Hearst, publishing empire guy? He had a pretty cool castle, mansion, large home.
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See, that's interesting. Like, I I never really paid attention to, like, the Elvis conspiracy or the Michael Jackson conspiracy because I'm like, well, they're just famous people. It doesn't matter. So, like, I'm I'm not I'm not savvy when it comes to all this. So that that's interesting.
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So, Karam, you basically you have to hit the object ball and then the other person's cue ball, both in order to score a point.
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Did you just say q?
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Does it have any new drops? Are there new drops?
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They might be dropping them. I'm not sure.
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But not in the pockets.
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That was hilarious.
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Are there a few drops?
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But,
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yeah. Did he did did he silence himself? Is there been any new information?
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Yeah. I'm curious too. Is this still a thing? Is that still We had we had Chucky today, I think. He was coronated
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earlier.
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So, yeah, a very interesting time. You know? It's just on an auspicious day, so to speak, for that.
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Right. Did I share that earlier? That meme, I think. We got a we got a meme bank. We're taking meme donations on our Telegram. So look for the, gems meme bank, and we can collect those memes and share them again if we choose to do so. Some of them are just the type of things we wanna keep to ourselves.
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And I think Yeah. If you have the latest if you have the latest q drop, I'm I'm interested in hearing just what it what it was out of curiosity. If anyone knows the topic, or is it it's just
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yeah. I mean, surely, he would have said something about Rex, our deed, and aternum here. Old sausage fingers. The walls. I should think do they call them sausage over there? And there's a goat under the throne.
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I see. Call him bangers?
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Bang bangers and mash. Bangers and mash.
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It's what? Jimmy Saville? Is that his name? Jimmy Saville?
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Saville
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Saville. Known a really well known pedophile that, like, gets away with it, apparently, just because he's cool.
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I've never seen the the statue with the bow and arrow in the background
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this pointing at them. Demon Hunter. No, I think there's a demon behind his other shoulder. So the arrow would go like behind him, perhaps.
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Dude, and then there was I think his son, one of those other prince kit guys or whatever was Mhmm. Be, like, outwardly proud of I think he went to, like, Afghanistan or something or one of those types of places and was like, yeah. I killed I killed people, and I it was great or something. This was, like, a very popular story. He he has he's quoted as enjoying, like, shooting like, killing people. You know what I mean? And you know it was he he's no special forces, so you know it was
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He's probably Harry.
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Yeah. Harry. He's one of those guys. Yeah. Yeah. They're you you yeah. Totally. And I think it was like, yeah. I went and I, like, literally killed people in a war, and you know he wasn't earning it. It was probably but, anyway, they, the the ultimate game. The
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the ultimate game. Here's the crown, and this is a 3 minute clip from their YouTube channel today. Let me know if you can hear what they say. The royal family channel.
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King of kings and lord of lords.
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Well, some people were a little upset about that one right there, and maybe the editor needs to get a slap on the wrist because listen again. Who is this in reference to?
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King of kings and lord of lords.
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Well, that's a bad juxtaposition. A real bad edit there. You'd think people would maybe ring some alarm bells there. Does it fit what Harry Potter house are you in, sir?
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Is that mink that they always
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Go save the king.
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It could be mink. Now people were defending this video saying you have to listen to the entire context of it. I understand. I understand. He believes that God gives him the right to run on earth, of course, But the way this is edited, it's a little bit wonky. Look at these close ups. They kinda do the side eyes, these,
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I'm very lost and and and very confused rather than regal at all. There's, like, no nothing about I am becoming the king. He's like
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like, that's just weird. Like but this is my insure time. I like that. Yeah.
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I like this guy on the left here, this little little young lad in the red who's making funny faces. All of these people are in front of cameras, and we gotta give them a little bit of grace. Not everyone is going to be a model or an actor for a camera. Let's watch further and see if we need to extend more grace to these folks who are in a real stuffy clothes, sitting on really old thrones, wearing dusty it's it looks like, a curtain he's got on, and, it's it's historical. We could maybe do a bad lip reading of what's going on in these guys' minds.
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What's the glove?
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Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson. Yeah.
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One moment. This puts him on the top of the hit list. Hide his fucking sausage fingers. He's got some sort of lesions or some shit on him.
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I'm hearing that. White cloth. Hey, Andy. Abby? Abby, I'm sorry. Okay. No. I'm, like, hearing that, do we believe it? We gathered here today. Today.
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We can maybe get to the princess, what was it? The princess bride of Christ video, Jim? Princess bride. There we go. I The no. The, no, the princess bride of Christ video. Well Yeah. It's, more of a passionate play in a church setting, but let's focus on king Chuckles here and his white glove, Michael Jackson style. These these poor boys.
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These poor boys don't want their fingers. How do you have just such sausages,
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sweet sweet sweet long fingers?
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Like like, you can barely see his knuckles.
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To dress his corpse right up.
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I'm trying to see what's carved in this wooden seat behind that he's sitting on. I can't make out I mean, I see those some letters. I'm wondering if I think that's j g Wentworth. If you want money now, you call this number.
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877 cash, ma'am.
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It's my money, and I want it now. -I didn't brush my teeth. -I'm sorry. -I should brush my teeth.
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-So So he wears a glove to keep his hands clean when he's doing dirty business. He wears it on his right hand, and his left hand is uncovered. So he's okay with doing dirty business with his left hand.
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What's going on with her brow? Many something behind with your left hand, so maybe he doesn't want white gloves for that.
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Yeah. There's a Yeah. There that's a nose. There's another
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nose of another fellow. I think it's the woman behind her with the Pinocchio nose extending all the way to the Who knows this? Like yeah. Okay. We can make so many jokes about this. The point is these are the royalty, and these are the the most important people in the galaxy. And their film crew is probably their own family members, like their cousins, people they know. Their cousin, Betty? You'd think they would have made this look a whole lot better. It looks like a $1,000,000. Sure. But you guys, this needs to look like a $1,000,000,000,000. This needs to look like an obscene amount of wealth because this just looks like a second act play. It's like
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almost like a hallmark movie. They look like cheap costumes. They don't even look like they're actually fancy, expensive clothes. They just like
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costume clothes. No one's smiling. I wonder how many sacrifices,
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blood sacrifices happened last night. That guy is smirking a little bit. He sees the Sasha's fingers. Why does it look like little kids have graffitied the fuck out of that throne? Back up and back up just a bit where you can actually see the another angle of it. Okay. It looks like somebody carved, like Carvings. Yeah. Just like little kid carvings all over in it. It's not ever been restored.
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Of course, it's antique. It's the ritual throne. It has this sort of top of a star triangle shape with it. Does anyone know anything about this?
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Well, what's the word that's carved into the wood part right there? I think it says,
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d I c k. Nikki. Or Dink.
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I don't know. C Tennent, t e n e n t. Oh, wow. Really? Something, but there's other there.
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Brian said that the seat of that throne is that's must be the most important part, and that stone, every king of England has been thrown has been crowned on that stone that he's sitting on right now.
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The stone of scone?
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The tenant, the Seder Square.
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Mhmm.
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What does it smell like, do you think?
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Probably. Bangers and mash parts,
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moth balls, and whoopee cushions.
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So I noticed, William is wearing, the cloak of the order of the garter, which is totally, different kind of a thing.
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It's pretty bad omen to to start your rain right after an eclipse, a lunar eclipse, I would say. I think he's worried somebody's gonna pick him off.
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Yeah. He doesn't say Do you think it's the guy that yelled at? Way does he look like he's being crowned king? No way. Astrologically.
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Terra fucking fied. There's no joy here. See that, in the past, if there was an eclipse and they had to do a coronation, they would coronate, like, the successor or the, you know, the person who this who would secede the throne in place of the new king or whatever, and then they would knock him off. So that way Oh, wow. The king could take the the rightful king could take the throne without having
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the bad fortune that comes with a an eclipse. He's gonna get knocked off. I bet you. Yeah. That's That's why he looks so terrified.
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And then why Christopher Columbus.
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Is it William's gonna take it? Who directed the best Harry Potter movies? Get that guy. Bring him in. Come on. Give him an OBE for services, king and country or something.
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Reanimate Stanley Kubrick.
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All these all these boys are pushing their tongue like they're doing the blowjob motion with it's just this other girl's blowing her nose. I mean, these are just real people. Real people
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not wanting to be there. Seeing his death. And you look sad. Look at that. Man, he is gonna die. Yeah. He is gonna get it. Wow. Goodness. Yeah. Yeah. Earlier this week, Kaylee Bricana did a live stream. She was just mentioning, like, this is, like, the worst. Astrologically, like, this is the worst time to do a core coronation. So, yeah, I I believe it. Someone's forcing this timeline.
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Mhmm. Yeah.
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Getting them on the throne at a obscene time.
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Well and, honestly, he was now let's take this back to what was just said about, astrologically, they would put in, the wrong king so that way the right king would not get this curse. Growing up, most of us that, you know, during the princess Diana time and whatnot, we understood that he was never gonna be king. Right. Yeah. That he was exed out of the and then suddenly, he's back in. So is this just a sham for him to be vacated or die in a very short order and then turn around and put William in or whoever they decide is gonna be the next one.
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They're anti Christ. William, he brags about having a scar on his head just like the antichrist where he got hit with a golf club when he was a boy.
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He says it Harry Potter.
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He says it glows.
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Really? Sure. Okay, Harry Potter.
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Prince Harry. Harry and the Potters.
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Yeah. Well, that's the other weird thing, I think, is that him and his wife moved to America, and I think I was talking to Cheney about this and how I thought, like, the king for a day ritual that they always I might have mentioned it in a stream before, but that they always are talking about with, like, celebrities where they'll raise them up and then they'll knock them down because they're, like, they take, like, the fool or whatever and make him king for a day, and then, you know, cut him down afterwards. So I've kinda had this idea, like, oh, maybe since, you know, some people are under the impression that we're still technically under British rule, that we're kinda like the king for a day country.
So it was like, okay. You can have your time or whatever. But then at the end of it, we're just gonna knock you down. And, like, with the, the champagne carpet, the Oscars and stuff like that and all this kinda like sunset time symbolism that's been going on is it's kinda interesting mix of things going on with the coronation as well.
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Well, they just stopped oil protesters. Gosh. Yeah. Yeah. They, they made this a meme club. Look, look, he's look how bored they are. And then they put it on the Royal Channel on YouTube.
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Well, of course they're bored. Like, what kid is not bored when they have to sit through a wedding or whatnot, any type of ceremony? Right. Because the kid doesn't want to sit still and be quiet and watch all the all this ritual and things that aren't, you know, matchative and playful.
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Yeah. It just tells you, like, how, like, pump how much pump it it actually is, like, by saying, oh, the kids are bored. Well, like, obviously. Things that there's unnecessary stuff going on. Most kids can hold their attention for, like, that kind of stuff for, like, maybe 20 minutes.
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Maya L'Ritchie, was that the coronation? Is that what they were showing? In Lionel Richie?
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Was he?
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I think that's what I saw. You did see that. Just take another look. Why is Lionel Richie at the cool? But There's some ceiling dancing.
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Why aren't there other celebrities there? Yeah. Lionel Richie. All nice. Celebrities. Let's
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Lionel Richie.
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Yeah. He's got a top hat. Lionel Richie. Are. I mean, to be blunt, is this the only, black person they could get to show up in a tuxedo and honor this, advice.
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They had some, Arabian looking fellers in the crowd. Right.
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Well, they had to stop oil protesters, but then they had the oil families again. Is anyone really, enamored with the glamour magic of this dreaded ritual coronation of the king after an eclipse, after all the austerity treatment, after all the riots happening in the street?
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I there's a lot of people that I bet are.
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This this king is not well received.
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I had no idea this was going on until I saw it on a television today. I, like, literally had no idea anything about any of this. But There there are people that are probably, like, into like, oh, wow. You know, they don't see the
[03:49:43] Unknown:
Well Yeah. That that that actually makes me think of, you know so back when the, queen passed and we did our our livestream growing then, I mentioned d 23 and that Disney movie, Wish, that comes out next year. Well, it just so happens, they recently, within the past couple weeks, released the 1st teaser trailer for it and revealed that the the Disney villain of this new movie isn't the evil stepmother but the evil king. So and everyone's making a big deal. All the movie, you know, channels and everything is This point, oh, this Disney's first time having a a evil king, and all this is done. The evil the evil stepmother and all that. And now you have, in the real world, this coronation that we're all talking about a couple weeks later.
And so my and so if we're talking about conspiracies and saying, well, that isn't the real king. They're waiting for him to something happened, the curse, so a new king can step in, then where is the real king? Where are the kings of the world right now? Where where are the the kings? Where are the people with the crowns on their head?
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I I don't know. I haven't seen them.
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Burger King? Are they at Burger King? Burger King. With crowns on their head? Well,
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I was more thinking of, like, a real king, like the archetype of a king, the masculine, the strong man, where are they? Sure.
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What's even more spooky with that video clip? That video clip starts with some religious figure talking about who's who's the god? Who's the okay. So, again Lord of lords. Lord of lords and king of kings, and they cut to this king. And now they're going to let us know that sausage fingers here, this this senile old man, it doesn't have much more time to live. Scared. This very feeble, sausage fingered, scared old man. Here's the conspiracy theory, everybody. If this video clip equates king Chucky with king of kings and lord of lords, God, god's son, son of god, son, god. Okay.
And they're gonna kill him. Does that mean that king of kings or lords equals king Charles equals the deity equals going to die equals they're trying to kill God? Is this a killing God ritual for an anti life equation for a satanic culture?
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It's a game of a geo and he's the white king. They're gonna take him down and enact sim symbolic magically their plan of taking over. Yes.
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So if you kill the god king, then will it be machines that they want to replace as the leaders in the create a vacuum. To decide the supply chain issues. So if they kill all forms of leadership, if sleepy Joe Biden is not fit to rule and everybody hates the government, they don't like the king. Now, does it seem like at this point, the plot line of the movie is leading towards the populations not wanting that sort of authority, hating the government, but now a vacuum creates a need for a technocratic, Taco Bell oligarchy of the what is this?
Corporatocracy where it's really the private corporations and the black rock black rocks of the world. It's a beautiful plan. The bankers are the ones that have all the the money, So they're going to build the computer to then have their the, world simulation to decide who will be the governor of certain regions as they try to redraw
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And it's a magical plan because any anytime they want to, they could just blow up a whole block and say, oops, the AI messed up. And, these electric meters blew up, you know, like it was just a problem. Like nobody, it was an accident. It was the AI, like, sorry. And nobody's held accountable. They can do whatever they want. They could crash airplanes.
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You know? I don't know. Like a a false incompetence.
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False incompetence.
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If they on at like, what Alan is saying, on your TV screens and your phones and everywhere you look, they're flashing incompetent leaders when all you have to do is you can step up. The person beside you could step up, but you're not because you're just like, everyone's incompetent. Even, you know, you you may even feel like yourself are incompetent because of this situation. You're you're down on yourself when all you have to do is lift yourself up.
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Yeah. If we see the leaders can't do anything, like, what good are we gonna be?
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You know? Well and I like, with that if you remember, you know, like, the Arabian Peninsula and other places where the British are responsible for drawing a lot of those imaginary lines, I'm sure they probably got 2 local groups to fight each other and come in as a third party to go, let's draw the lines for everyone and then have influence. That's nothing new under the sun. So that's probably what's their plan, just a little bit more advanced, but a similar playbook. I feel like I feel like we all kinda know their playbook, but they still run it anyway. Why? Because it it still works. It's like Right. We're gonna steep run keep running these plays until you stop us. It's working. I'm gonna tell them the wheels fall off. It started right.
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It started a while before that, though, because, like, like, my kids, shit. When they were little, there's a show called Max and Ruby, and it was a little cartoon. And it's a little girl named Ruby. She's a little bunny rabbit, and she had a little brother named Max, and there's no parents. She's, like, taking care of her little brother. And then all the stuff, like, Dora the Explorer, you never met her parents. Then the same thing with, like, all the shows on Nickelodeon. There was, like, Zoe 101. None of them had parents. And then when they did have parents, there was usually just 1.
And then if you saw them, they were fucking idiots. So they started with this generation, you know, my kids' generation, young, to let them see that the authority figures, if they're even there, are fucking idiots. So it's been implanted in their brains since they were little.
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Yeah. I wrote a story generation was kind of that generation. There was no authority. Because you had,
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Marsha, go ahead, Ben. I was talking about it earlier. You're right, Ben. There was no no authority. We had no authority. We were we raised ourselves.
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Oh, yeah. So
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any other show that was better than that.
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Yeah. Another show that comes to mind is this show dragon tales. Because, I mean, that show, they would go off into this magical world, and the parents wouldn't know that they were going off and flying with dragons and things. And they'll come back, and the parent at the end of the episode, they'll go back into the room, and the parents would come and check-in. And they're, you know, j dragon wallpaper. Like, oh, you're just playing in your room. You're not off and, you know, Never Never Land with Peter Pan sort of a thing.
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The Muppet Babies, if you remember, like, there was, like, a bunch of babies in a room together, and then you'd see the nanny sometimes her legs, but there is no parents.
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Oh, like Rugrats? The parents were, like, hardly ever in the room, and they're, like, bay they're, like, actual babies.
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Yeah. Always unintended.
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If the playbook seems to be that of demoralization, and we're gonna do the wavy gravy word breakdown here, de remove moral, like, morals. Like, do you have morality? Do you know what's good? Do you know what's evil? And if you remove the moralization, that's sort of the motivation to do anything because you've been convinced that evil has already won. So you're demoralized. And then by removing the good and the heroic and the brave, and the masculine and the strong and the courageous because they're demoralized that ties into the idea that we talked about in the first part of the show with men who are told and convinced that they will not marry a woman, that they will not have children, that they will not be fathers.
So that's a huge demoralization. You basically said your entire existence, it's not gonna happen. That's a huge demoralization, which seems to say that you have no purpose here because your biological purpose for existing, spreading your seed, being a man, having a wife, raising a family, doesn't exist. You can't do that because you'll never find someone. And then that plays into the demoralization for the women who can't find no good man anywhere, and they can't find someone who wants to settle down. So this demoralization period continues.
And now we have to ask, at what point do we remoralize and rejuvenate and create a sense of meaning again to say, well, a lot of that is lies. A lot of that is untrue stuff. And if the conspiracy movement acts as a demoralization campaign filled with fear porn to say that there's too much evil in the world for you to make any difference in your own life than have people given up before they've even failed their first time. That was the other question we asked about, you know, feeling just a little bit of discomfort or pain and not being able to grow and abstract one as a bodybuilder, if you don't ever feel a little bit of pain, is there any gain? Is that what they say in the gym?
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No. Yeah. You better feel some pain. You better cry. You gotta, it's called you you gotta fatigue, man. Failure. So you can't do anymore. Keep going Is that where you think it is? It's past that point.
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So the thing that we've lost in society is this thing called integrity, Lucas.
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Entetracy.
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Why I have no problem, Lucas, with thinking about it because I have this thing called integrity. So the thing is I was never a bear. Owen would call would text me and ask me farm questions and how to do things because he has no skills. And so he has to rely on other people to try and teach him, but once he started getting a bunch of money and popularity again, he went back to that and gave up all integrity. And so I don't care if he doesn't like me. I don't care if he wants to talk shit and keep being a bitch. He's the one who has no integrity, and he's not gonna take mine.
So I don't care about the bears or the community. If you all wanna keep following a dude who calls himself a bear, we all know a bear is a big gay dude, who feeds this dude's gravy. I mean, how fucking on the nose is that? Like, this big gay dude is bull gravy. Like and then he's just a Hollywood cunt. That's all the dude really is. He's not even a homesteader anymore. I don't have the time to spend the on the Internet to fucking deal with the shit that that dude puts out and everything else because I actually do work. He doesn't. He sits on the Internet. That's why he's got man tits. Because he's not homesteading. No homesteader's built like that. Because we work.
We have integrity. He has none. He tried to borrow some and then lost it. And so, no, I don't gotta think about it, bro. You need to think about it. You can either follow Hollywood bitch boy who's acting completely out of line, and you guys are the ones that are empowering that. You guys are the ones that are saying, oh, yeah. It's okay to call other men pedals. Something that actually can get them in trouble. CPS takes nothing to get to your house. Nothing. Takes everything to get them to leave. But cool. Do that just because old bitch boy has a temper tantrum.
Have some integrity. This is what society lost right here. See this? The quality of being honest and having strong moral principles, moral uprightness. I know he wanted to fucking shit on me for having it, but I ain't giving mine up for you, you fucking oversized cunt. Think about it.
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It's very demoralizing to entire community. They were led maybe into a cul de sac where they're just left to hang out to dry and fend for themselves. Is that positive community? What fruit has it beared? It's kind of a I shouldn't have said bear like that. I'm sorry To all the all the bears with integrity who stand by us and chat sometimes. We appreciate that.
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And there are a lot. Yes. Awesome. Some of them. This all this makes me think of is that it's that's also easy way for this whole if if men and women are feeling down, they feel like they can't they're not not gonna find their significant other. And then they're gonna if and then they're not trying, that means that that's a good way to end a lot of lineages because then the the lineage are gonna stop with them. So that's a good way to
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end multiple,
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Kings.
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That's a baby. And shout out to all the otters out there. We were talking bears. Let's not forget about the otters.
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Is there a otter is there a secret otter community that I'm, unaware of? There is. Is there, an otter called Please explain. Because I don't know where.
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Are other animal spirit guides available?
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You got you got bears in certain communities. You have bears, and some people are otters. So shout out to all the otters in those recesses of they're they're not, being so hidden too much anymore, Gordy. I think they're a little more out in the open nowadays, but, Shrek, we just want we don't wanna leave anyone out. If you identify as an otter, you're welcome here as well.
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Birds, are you do you identify as a bird?
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Do I, I'm not sure if our lesbian fits into this, but let's not forget about the
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I think that's an that's an that's an island thing. Right. Sure. They all live on an island.
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Okay. That's where I suppose come from. Yes. Clam Eaters. They do. They are otters.
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Or is an otter like a woodchuck?
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An otter is like is like a weasel. I you know what? I should've looked at Yes. Weasel. I think weasel. Am I using the Am I saying the weasel family?
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Or, yeah, I might be using the term incorrectly. Maybe it's the Otters are water weasels.
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Water weasels. Yeah. We've had
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some water weasels in our chat, and we usually don't like to give them enough attention. We do give them a huge responsibility with the wrench to not injure themselves or others with the use of the wrench. But at some point, when adults are speaking in a room and there's monkeys with wrenches making fools of themselves again and again when we're trying to construct something here and remoralize a culture that is so easily, gathered together and rounded up like a herd and then led through certain channels and then dropped off and left to fend for themselves. And then at that point, when they're just cannibalizing each other, then we're all very sad about that. So you that's Disgusting. It's terrible. It's not a happy ending, and we can all live better. We don't need to be living in fear or demoralized or identified as a loser in life, taking the l and then not accomplishing anything. Of course, you're gonna have to lose a lot of times to learn to be a good sport, to then play again, and then coach your own kids someday.
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And if you do fall for some of these people's spiels that, they wanna con you in some kind of a way that doesn't say as much about you as it does about them.
[04:09:31] Unknown:
And Right. We've all been we've all been hungry. We've all stood in line. We've all had that free continental breakfast because we're hungry, and they gave us the gravy. And a little bit later in the day, it didn't sit so well because it was yesterday's gravy. It was old gravy. It was bad gravy. Well, you know, a little indigestion. Let that be a lesson to you. Maybe skip the bad breakfast.
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Try a salad.
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Grow your own food.
[04:10:03] Unknown:
Yeah. That's part of the growing process. You you develop more discernment. You take the pieces that were good. You dump the pieces that were crap. You know? For for a while, dude was talking about homesteading and really pushing that. That was good stuff. Keep it.
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Remain true to what the mission was originally.
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You If the captain sinks the ship over the biscuits and gravy.
[04:10:33] Unknown:
Right. You don't have to go down with the ship. You don't have to defend the sinking Titanic until you're googling saltwater and you're freezing your tootsies off. All because of a girl named Rose. Any Because she took her top off for you, and you got to see her, and you drew her picture, You steamed up the cars. Come on, man. There there are other movies.
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And if anyone out there really wants to ride down the boardwalk in roller skates, if that if you feel that, I say do it. If that's that's what's in your heart,
[04:11:07] Unknown:
go do I don't know. I I Sarah Jessica Parker movie where she wore the roller skates. What movie was that? Oh. But the, the guy with the funny looking nose who writes the poetry. Or,
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was it the nickel it's not that Las Vegas one.
[04:11:26] Unknown:
I have no idea. How old is this movie?
[04:11:32] Unknown:
It's a real movie. I saw it. So Sarah Jessica Parker, and she was wearing roller skates. Like, based on.
[04:11:47] Unknown:
I'll I'll look it up. I got time. We're we're not doing anything right now. Yeah. And I haven't followed her career like I don't know all her, work. I'm not a follower of her work. But,
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there's somebody LA story?
[04:12:03] Unknown:
Somebody in the chat? Interesting. LA story. Sounds like like, one of those older oh, gosh. I'm Steve Martin? I think you're right. Steve Martin. There might have been a Douglas in there, like, 1 a Michael Douglas perhaps, or is that or am I off on that one?
[04:12:23] Unknown:
I'm sorry. I don't know if this What's that? It's all garbage up there.
[04:12:32] Unknown:
The only movie that's coming to my mind is that roller skating, roller rink movie
[04:12:41] Unknown:
where they It could have been this one. Bloodsport.
[04:12:45] Unknown:
Not Bloodsport. Bloodsport was that fighting movie.
[04:12:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Roll bounce.
[04:12:51] Unknown:
Rolled oh, what was that? That's a little bow wow? Hey, Balderson. Help me out. Eighties, maybe seventies. It was like a a killer roller derby movie with, like, motorcycles and shit.
[04:13:10] Unknown:
Rollerball. It's rollerball, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was rollerball. 100%.
[04:13:16] Unknown:
See, there's that there's that old garbage coming back up, that 50 years of of, watching shitty movies.
[04:13:25] Unknown:
You better churn your compost once in a while.
[04:13:28] Unknown:
Yeah. Right. Exactly. Gotta roll that around. I think I was thinking of Roxanne Roxanne. Was Daryl Hannah. I don't know if she had roller skates or not. I I think I was probably watching Roxanne and, LA story at the same time simultaneously. 2 screens. That's this is the only way you can consume all of the movies before you die is by watching multiple movies at the same time to get through them. There's so many important films that you need to see
[04:14:01] Unknown:
with your time. We layer them for you at the intro and intermissions. We layer them. Yes. We're gonna order them at the same All the important scenes.
[04:14:14] Unknown:
Yep. And the Hollywood writers strike, again, the unions, again, if that's Hollywood Babylon, man, there's already such a vibrant Christian community. They're already on God's not dead, what, 3, 4, 5, and 6. So we're gonna be okay. We got plenty of entertainment available. Fireproof? Come on. That guy will never burn down. He's so faithful in his marriage.
[04:14:44] Unknown:
We will always have a new What new film to watch.
[04:14:48] Unknown:
What people really should've gotten out of it too is the huge list of talking heads who are giving out political points. How many of them were under the same exact writing team? Because when we're talking about late night hosts, these comedy hosts, these have these have become the liberal talking heads. The these libtards don't want to sit down and actually get political information and and be truly informed. They want somebody to make Trump jokes because, you know, Trump's all bad and orange man bad, things like that, which I'm not saying Trump's great good by any means. But this is what they want. So there's really so they get their political information from these comedians.
And we look a whole giant list of them all from the same writers.
[04:15:38] Unknown:
Yep. That's right. They are making a biopic film. We're going back to the biopics about the first night that Saturday night live went live and the chaos leading up to the we're live of that first broadcast. Because, apparently, it was KGOS, and they feel like they need to tell their version of a story to entertain us about their mishaps before their
[04:16:17] Unknown:
What is up with all these movies lately about, like, the most flipping Monday, like the Tetris movie.
[04:16:25] Unknown:
And now they have this Blackberry movie. And now they have Hey. That looks like a good one. I wanna I wanna know I wanna know about the BlackBerry. That little device that Obama used for a couple of times to send some emails about hot dogs and other menu items that probably wanted to try and choose what they're gonna celebrate and what they're gonna eat together.
[04:16:47] Unknown:
Well, we'll all find out exactly. The Barbie movie to review the Barbie movie for we will try your role to come on.
[04:16:57] Unknown:
There can only there's only one Ellen.
[04:17:01] Unknown:
Can I ask, Balderson a question? When it comes to someone like Owen Benjamin, and if he's not vibing with you like, I don't really listen to him. I'm very I'm aware. I've checked him out, and he doesn't vibe, and I just move on. Why, does it make sense to provide any prana or any, attention to, that's that side of the Internet. If you're not really feeling it, just go, I'm over it, And then you just don't really even pay attention anymore. And I think holding you know, as they used to say, like, having real estate in your head. You know? Why allow him to maybe have some real estate in your head? Is it what what are your thoughts on that? And I'm not I'm asking
[04:17:47] Unknown:
I'm not So if you're if you're an outsider, there's no reason for you to do that. The the difference is is Owen made friends with me a number of years ago. I specifically, what happened was he started going he he he pushed away from Hollywood and started moving toward the homesteader life. And so Owen knew who I was before I ever seen any of his TV shows or movies. I don't watch romantic comedies, and I don't watch TV. So he saw, videos of me sharing alpacas and doing homesteading, and he's like and the thing about the shearing alpacas is that most people in the shear alpacas, they have to tie them down super tight. This animal's damn near drawn and quartered.
And then they take this big machine and they rip it all over in the alpaca screaming and fighting. And when I do it, we lay the alpaca down, and the person helping me can basically just hold just kinda, you know, pet their head. And then I take a big ass, and, you know, hand big old hand shears, and I shear the animal and I shear the animal that way. So he asked to you know, started asking around to get ahold of me and wanted to have some talks with me. And, you know, even if the guy was Hollywood or whatever and not quite like I am, you know, that's such an excellent move, and it was very impressive. So while I'm not the coolest kid on the block, my voice has real big ripples, real big ripples.
And so when, I made friends with him, and I'm well known for just being, like and to being who I am is the thing I'm known for. And I live off grid. I, I live the life I'm talking about. Okay? So when he so, basically, he started borrowing some of my integrity. And he was and he and at the time, I think he was trying to be solid. I really do. And, so over the years now, he's grown real popular on this, and he's transitioned everything. And now he's gotten a whole bunch of land and gotten all these people to donate a ton of money to him, and I do mean a ton. And the guy starts doing things that are completely out of line.
And so, mostly, I just ignored him also and didn't say anything. And then what he started doing was coming out and other guys that were coming up in the community that were doing the things that we're talking about, that we're trying to live an alternative lifestyle and break from civilization. He started cutting those guys' legs out from under them. I mean, if you go into my chat of my of my video, and this doesn't even touch my other social medias, There's about 540 comments. About 520 are all just completely shitting on him, talking about how he's done this over and over to other people. Well, now because he's not been reined in, he's built spiraled himself up to a level where now if somebody's anybody that's, doesn't completely agree with them, he just goes out and outright attacks.
And that's all again, all fine. I don't care. Then he started calling guys pedophiles. And 2 of the guys that he was calling a pedophile were, young family men with little kids, and all of them under under kindergarten age. And when he called them pedophiles, he had this giant story that he laid out. And then what he also does is he knows even though he's not calling shots, he knows that he has a certain percentage of his bear community are fucking frothing lunatics. Now there's a substantial amount that are decent dudes and completely normal people. And these people were following him for the homesteading and the the trying to live a better life, not this life that, society's been feeding us.
So when he started saying that he was relying on his frothing lunatic percentage. And what that percentage does is anything that Owen points at, they come unglued on. On. And he had a large enough following that, this was an extremely dangerous thing. And and anybody that understands pedophilia and, CPS, it doesn't take much more than a rumor to get CPS at your house. You get, 3, 4 guys calling with the same story about something and digging around on your Internet. James has said that his all of his accounts have been hacked. You know, for when he decided to start doing, within a couple weeks, he had a quarter of a $1,000,000 drummed up in donations just because he wanted an idea. So you know what kind of power that is? You could work you could work your whole life without having a quarter of a $1,000,000 in your hand to fucking go throw down on some land free and clear, and he does it in a couple weeks just by asking. So do you know what kind of power that is? So when he comes out and starts saying that, and again, there's a a strong association to me, then I need to make that break from that. And then men that were looking for an example of a man to to something to to put their lodestone to, when a real man sees another man doing some shit like that, you call it out.
And then the ones who have who don't quite have that load stone down for themselves, they see what a real example is. They see what a man with a spine is. Because it's easy to cave to a dude like that that's gonna get 100 and thousands of people shitting on you, and and, you know, you're not the cool kid. You should come to the pressure, lots of people. We've watched pea, speakers in the community when the community gets mad at them just roll out because they can't handle the the people crapping on them. How easy is that? So when somebody just says, I don't care. What do I got to lose? I was never making money. I didn't monetize my channel. I don't care about clicks. You wanna fight? Fight me. Quit fighting the dudes with the fucking with the small kids. Quit freaking ruining their lives and their businesses.
So, yeah, I agree with you 95% of the time, and, and I'm not gonna continue to put energy into it. But when a man sees another man, especially one that he's personal friends with and talks to personally on the phone, when they do wrong, you call it out. That's how men keep each other straight.
[04:24:46] Unknown:
Well, thank you for that. I was thank you for, I was just curious, man. Thank I appreciate you, man. Real, like attracts like, and the the phonies are gonna be revealed. It's literally written in the round. The any phoniness, if you're not unique, you will be revealed. So I always encourage everyone to just now is not the time to be phony. Now is the time to let, if it's relationships or anything or you're you're kind of being those lies, it's gonna be revealed now. So all the real ones, will still you'll see them and all the fake ones will you'll see them and you don't have to look very closely. They'll it'll be very obvious. So I recommend to everyone, including myself. I don't talk.
I'm always talking to myself when I say things like this is to be your unique self. And and and if you'll actually, it will be, like, rewarded. Like, now is the time if you are your unique self. It's also the time for the extra work to go. This is this is who I am, guys. This is what I am. And take it or leave it. And it will actually, like, be rewarded, based on the, like, times nowadays. You know, that's just how it is. And if you're phony and you're trying to push and you're like, I'm pretending and I'm holding on to the old paradigms or whatever and you're not changing, it's not gonna be it's gonna be a rough. So, I think that's the way I see it. So, yeah, man.
Respect. Respect.
[04:26:21] Unknown:
That phoniest theme is in JD Salinger's, the catcher in the rye, the 16 year old Holden Caulfield guy that ties into conspiracy theory culture because people that are aware of this book and read this book have been triggered perhaps. Hate that book. I've never read the book because I I knew it was Philophones, and I'm a literary snob.
[04:26:48] Unknown:
I wonder why that's why they call them phones. We talk on the phones. We talk on the phones.
[04:26:56] Unknown:
Well, yeah, it comes from the Phoenicians is one,
[04:27:01] Unknown:
layer of that word. That's a sore spot, birds. We don't talk about Phoenicians for another few weeks.
[04:27:09] Unknown:
Yeah. We're gonna go ahead and skip that one.
[04:27:15] Unknown:
Sorry. I didn't bring up I didn't know there was a sore spot. I never heard it's like, hey. We don't talk Phoenicians in here. That's I love that. I love the randomness of it. I I gotta make a
[04:27:30] Unknown:
Yeah. We don't wanna argue alphabets tonight.
[04:27:33] Unknown:
Oh,
[04:27:34] Unknown:
shit. If if chat could just resort to using emojis only tonight for the rest of the evening, please, that would really help us all out so we don't have to form is also
[04:27:47] Unknown:
accepted.
[04:27:48] Unknown:
Or it's like, do I only want a dollar? I feel like if I, say anything, it's like you owe a dollar. It's a seek the secret word for tonight.
[04:27:56] Unknown:
Right. Right. Yeah. And there was that topic of authority and deconstructing and cult awareness. This has been passed around the Internet. This is the, is it Word of Life Fellowship? Does anybody know this church? Essentially, they have this list for their members. I don't think you get this immediately upon joining, but they have this list of do's and don'ts. And some of the do's are that you'll be required to attend service. You'll be required to tithe. That's 10% of your gross earnings and give offerings. A woman named Jane will check your records from time to time. You will be required to smile on command. This is called keeping your happy face.
You will be required to participate in group work projects. You will enjoy it. After each service, you'll be you will be required to clean the church and fellowship hall on a rotating basis. Now those are the 5 dos. They have a list of over 200 don'ts. Don't drink alcohol. Don't cook with alcohol. Don't eat at places that serve alcohol. Don't drink, in quotes, root beer. Don't drink the, registered brand of Cheerwine. Don't drink diet Cheerwine. Don't drink ginger ale. Don't smoke cigarettes. Don't dip snuff. Don't use chew tobacco.
Don't watch videos in your car, especially in your car. Don't watch movies at all, unless Jane approves. Don't go to a movie theater. Don't read the newspapers, not even the headlines. Don't listen to the radio. Again. So sometimes you'll know that you're joining a cult. Sometimes it'll be very obvious that you're in a cult. Sometimes you won't find out until later. Certainly there's there's other pages to this I can bring up. Is this Word of Life Fellowship? Has anyone heard of this? There's there are paper trails and documents and things.
[04:29:55] Unknown:
No. Where's where's Word of Life Fellowship?
[04:29:58] Unknown:
I haven't done that amount of homework yet because I haven't gotten through the lists of what not to do. Oh. Okay. So there are more. I wanna make sure I get 18 to 52. Let's see. Not 123 to 145. I gotta get these sheets in order because if I don't have order in this, I think Jane's gonna be really upset with me. So here's, 18 through 52. Don't watch television. Don't read books that are not approved by leadership. Don't read your Bible too much because, you don't wanna read your Bible too much. The amplified version is acceptable. Don't take notes during the services. Don't forget to go to the bathroom before the service. Don't go to the bathroom during the service. Don't bring any knives on the church property. Don't be late for service.
Don't park alongside the left side of the sanctuary unless you are approved. So there's approved parking, nowhere to park. And don't park in the space as close as the back step, so it's a reserve for parents of infants. Don't park in the first spot along the sidewalk. There's a whole list of don't parks. Don't speed when driving on the church, don't go opposite to the accepted traffic flow of counterclockwise. It causes confusion. Don't ban your cell phone when approaching the school. Don't drive your car with expired tags. You'll be reminded if your tag is expired. Men, don't wear a color of dress shirt except white or light blue.
Women don't get your heart set on a dress until you check with others to see of anyone else has that dress. You may need to return yours. So all of these problems that leadership has experienced in church, was written down a list of rules. And over time, they added more and more rules. As you can see, there's 53 through 86 if you're curious about more of these rules. And this is kinda ridiculous. Don't wear anything with Nike on it. Nothing. There's a rule against wearing cargo pants. Don't wear black tennis shoes. Don't wear high cut boot like tennis shoes, all these rules about shoes. Don't wear, in quotes, muscle T shirts. I think those are wife beaters, and you don't wanna be seen as beating your wife.
Don't go swimming with boys and girls together. Don't leave the pool toys out when you're done using the pool. Don't go outside with a sunscreen. Maybe they should just empty the pool and then say, don't skateboard in the pool.
[04:32:21] Unknown:
That would probably Hold on. Is number 83 say say Jane needs to get a feel for the neighborhood?
[04:32:28] Unknown:
Oh my god. 3 says, don't even make an offer on a house unless Jane can check out and get a feel for the neighborhood. So they wanna buy property. Get felt up by the neighborhood before you can move in? Don't sign up for classes unless Jane Whaley or leadership checks out your your class schedule. Men, don't allow facial hair to grow. No beards of any type and no pork chop sideburns. So this is welcoming you to the word of life fellowship. So as you see over time, people wanting to control other people take all these concerns, and they begin to make more and more rules. They begin to say certain words are not allowed, Certain words are bad words. They reduce the language. They reduce the freedom because of the need to have more control over a situation.
Does that remind you of anything?
[04:33:25] Unknown:
That reminds me that you're what is not a bad word? Gravy. Gravy is not a bad word. I love me some biscuits and gravy.
[04:33:37] Unknown:
Fart is not a bad word. I will die on this hill.
[04:33:41] Unknown:
The order not a fart. That's the f word. It's making a windy.
[04:33:46] Unknown:
F j a r d. It's pronounced fjord. Fjord. Right. Yeah. Don't yeah. I don't know if Jane allows us to talk about body functions like that. I'll let's see. We got we got some more rules to go through.
[04:34:05] Unknown:
There's a whole list of Christy and her family, I think they don't stay fart and she used to get so offended. Because anytime I meet a little boy, I'm like, did you fart? Did you, did you fart? Did your fart stinks? And Christy will look at me like I'm fucking nuts. Like, why are you saying that? And then she sees a little boy just smile, like, yeah. That was me.
[04:34:25] Unknown:
Yeah.
[04:34:26] Unknown:
You know, they didn't even fart. They're gonna own that. Like, oh, you think that was dunk? Yeah. That was mine. Mine.
[04:34:33] Unknown:
This is the church that doesn't play monopoly. They don't play football. They don't play ping pong. They don't they don't play or imitate, in quotes, air guitar. So I don't think there's a lot. Is the WAF?
[04:34:49] Unknown:
Don't let WAF children play with children outside of WAF?
[04:34:54] Unknown:
Word of faith fellowship. Children are not allowed to play with children outside of word of life.
[04:35:02] Unknown:
I'll make a win and it wafts.
[04:35:04] Unknown:
They don't And don't this is definitely your you're trying to you're trying to contradict turkey on Thanksgiving.
[04:35:11] Unknown:
Right. So 121 says, don't forget to read your Bible before you go to bed. But one of the previous rules reminds you to not read your Bible too much because you might think about it and get your own ideas, and then question Jane, who is the person that will interpret the Bible for you.
[04:35:28] Unknown:
When I see Jane, I'm gonna say.
[04:35:33] Unknown:
You're gonna whistle at Jane and tell her she's beautiful? Yeah. And then she'll say, number 117.
[04:35:40] Unknown:
No. You're not allowed in heaven.
[04:35:43] Unknown:
Yeah. No ATVs or dirt bikes. There's a special rule for African Americans to not shave your head bald. Number 137, don't complain about the list of don'ts. So we're not complaining. We're just reading them to to better understand them. Don't go in the sanctuary with sin in your heart. Remember to deal with the sin in your heart before you go to service. So just deal with it.
[04:36:16] Unknown:
Don't place toilet paper on the roll unless it rolls over the top.
[04:36:22] Unknown:
Most important is 144.
[04:36:24] Unknown:
I agree with that one. That's a real one. Right there. Don't put the toilet paper under the don't you always put it over the top. What psychopath puts toilet paper the other way so it falls down the backside? Who does this? These are the issues we need to deal with.
[04:36:43] Unknown:
This is how you maintain a good fellowship of believers?
[04:36:47] Unknown:
Is that a 145 rules?
[04:36:50] Unknown:
I think there's a few other pages. I don't know if I had them all there.
[04:36:54] Unknown:
144. Don't attack those in authority. It's like Yep. Follow all rules without exception.
[04:37:02] Unknown:
Right. Rules That's a lot of rules.
[04:37:04] Unknown:
It's a lot of rules, and it could mean that there are rule breakers. So to produce a whole generation of rule breakers, you have to have a lot of rules on the books. And I think if there's one thing we learned about the war on drugs, the drugs will always win that war.
[04:37:25] Unknown:
Gabe made a valid point that Jack Handy was the best thing to come out of the nineties. And and yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm gonna have
[04:37:33] Unknown:
to agree with that. Deep dive Yeah. I agree with that. Jack Handy. Mhmm. Yep. Yeah.
[04:37:38] Unknown:
Yeah. What does Jack what does what does Jane say about Jack candies in the bathroom? Are they approved?
[04:37:47] Unknown:
Is that a bucket of KFC gravy, Gordy?
[04:37:53] Unknown:
And he calls it, kefir, but I just say it's yogurt juice. I knew it was yogurt gravy? It was yogurt gravy
[04:38:01] Unknown:
right on the nose. Yogurt gravy. I'm gonna drop off kefir. You birds. Thank you. Thanks, guys. Later, man. Keep on going.
[04:38:09] Unknown:
Take care, man. Good to have you. Too. It's midday care. Right. It's 1 AM. We've been doing this for a little while. Yeah, man. Appreciate you guys. I don't wanna, take up a whole much a whole lot of time later. Oh, no. It's it's open. It's good. Saturday night. It's just a party here.
[04:38:27] Unknown:
I'm going to bed.
[04:38:29] Unknown:
Good night. Thanks for coming. Drugs definitely.
[04:38:34] Unknown:
Drugs definitely won. Daryl Davis has the point of the night.
[04:38:39] Unknown:
Sure. Do you guys have any other notes to bring up? Any memes in the meme bank to share? Any movies that Jane approves of talking about?
[04:38:53] Unknown:
Tomorrow at 7 PM CST on my Keon Tubbs channel on promoting the long awaited, God is a playwright world Study. It's a hero's journey conversation I had with our friend, Joshua DeBrantz and alanmarcus.com. It was a wonderful conversation, and I had to save it from the bowels of the underworld, the underworld to bring to you guys.
[04:39:29] Unknown:
Appreciate that.
[04:39:31] Unknown:
Yeah. Tell us about your digital underworld journey.
[04:39:42] Unknown:
Was it through the, computer Legos game? My Minecraft?
[04:39:51] Unknown:
They're very pixelated. Mhmm.
[04:39:59] Unknown:
Like, in a retro way?
[04:40:01] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[04:40:03] Unknown:
Do you know it's large?
[04:40:07] Unknown:
I have to go on a silk covered road.
[04:40:13] Unknown:
We're talking about the dark web.
[04:40:24] Unknown:
No. I was not.
[04:40:31] Unknown:
Right. So we're in 2023. They've built up systems of government. They've added more and more legislation and laws and rules. People are concerned that TikTok might be banned. There's a lot of concern about laws and rulers and kings and things. I don't know. Giving our attention to that is is, Ronan, the bird dog, was advising us wisely. It's summertime, and the weather's nice, so maybe we could get out and enjoy it.
[04:41:05] Unknown:
Weather's nice where? Oh,
[04:41:08] Unknown:
from here. It's great in Oklahoma.
[04:41:10] Unknown:
Right here.
[04:41:12] Unknown:
That might be the taking nuggets and and gravy. Like, all the fast food establishments give you gravy instead of barbecue sauce. Just so you know. It's a Oakey thing.
[04:41:23] Unknown:
It is a OKIE thing. Gravy is a OKIE thing for sure. I don't know your French fries. My grandparents make the grilled bread.
[04:41:32] Unknown:
I was saying in the, chat when the intermission was going, the the bigger guy here reminded me of when I lived in Texas for a little bit. I was a waitress, and there was this group of 3 people. One of them had, like, oxygen machine, one of them had a peg leg, and one of them had an eye patch. And they just kept asking for gravy, like, because they all ordered chicken fried steak, and they just wanted more dishes of gravy. And so, like, every 5 minutes, I go get them a little scoop of gravy. I was like, how long is this gonna last?
[04:42:17] Unknown:
Maybe in sweet tea. Okay. That's that's my thing. When you go to put sugar in your tea.
[04:42:23] Unknown:
Yeah.
[04:42:24] Unknown:
When you go to a country restaurant and you order the chicken fried steak, it should automatically come with white gravy. It should not have automatically be brown gravy unless specified. It was a few years back before I stopped eating meat. I went to a, country restaurant. And when my when I did eat meat, one of my favorite things was chicken fried steak with white gravy, And I just assumed that was the the the norm. And so I went to this rush this country restaurant with my family, and I ordered the chicken fried steak, and I brought it out with brown gravy on it. And I just stared at it for the longest time. And I was like, what is this monstrosity?
[04:43:16] Unknown:
How am I supposed to eat this shit? But I'd eat it. Still sounds bomb. Dude.
[04:43:26] Unknown:
You are Seriously, like, nope. Yep. But I still eat it, though. I can't I can't eat it. Eat it.
[04:43:34] Unknown:
I mean, I still ate it. I mean, I didn't
[04:43:37] Unknown:
You're not a psychopath.
[04:43:38] Unknown:
It's that's just when it clicked in my head. I'm like, wait.
[04:43:43] Unknown:
There's no Mushroom
[04:43:46] Unknown:
gravy rules. The white gravy rules. The chicken fried steak came with white gravy, not brown. And I was like, why is is this not a universal thing? It is it clicked for me that not everyone thinks this thing about chicken with steak and gravy
[04:44:02] Unknown:
that I did. Speaking of gravy when I grew up. If you're doing gravy after you do your chicken in the crock pot, Like, let the fat drain down in the bottom of the crock pot. Take that take that stuff. Keep it in there. Turn it on hot after you take the chicken out, and then put sweet potato starch in it and just whip it up instead of, wheat so you don't get the glyphosate and all that bullshit. So get sweet potato power or yeah. Or sweet potato flour, and then whisk it into it with, like, pepper and salt and stuff. It makes a great gravy. Like, it's stupid easy, and it's got tons it keeps all the fat.
You're you're ingesting all that fat that's that was in the the bird to begin with. Like, get a good bird. You know? Yeah. And you can still buy them.
[04:44:56] Unknown:
With any kind of meat too. Like, I don't eat pork anymore, but when I did, we made ham gravy one time. That was really good.
[04:45:10] Unknown:
Again, you're conserving all those fats. So hungry.
[04:45:13] Unknown:
Good stuff. Hungry.
[04:45:15] Unknown:
Fix your brain.
[04:45:18] Unknown:
Late at night, and we're talking about food. We're making everybody hungry.
[04:45:23] Unknown:
We added tea to gravy.
[04:45:26] Unknown:
Danny. How many chickens how many chickens remain? We started with 7.
[04:45:31] Unknown:
We still have 1 I think at least one's going in the gravy. I'm just saying.
[04:45:36] Unknown:
And, 206 sex dolls. Is that for 1 for 1 person? Are we, like, going 2 do a doll so we could
[04:45:48] Unknown:
If they're consensual sex dolls Are the dolls filled with the gravy?
[04:45:52] Unknown:
Did we ask enough questions tonight? Not yet, Chris. Did we answer anything? Should we play it out with the,
[04:46:05] Unknown:
solve the problem. I mean, everyone should just know from now on that chicken fried steak comes with white gravy unless specified.
[04:46:12] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's a problem. That's a problem. Unless James says otherwise.
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James You were you were in some alternate dimension where things weren't right. I I don't know, you know, what happened there, Chris, but you're it's good that you came back. Yeah. It was so bizarre. I was like, what is happening?
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That bizarre point of the night where some of us need to eat something. And if we keep talking about gravy without saying anything gravy.
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Until next week, your gravy are mines.
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It's peanut butter. Make some noodles. She said government gravy. After the fight. You gotta wait for Cheney. Yes. She said she's coming in to spider after the fight.
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She said there was one more left. That was a while ago. How many Yeah. That was, like, 10 minutes ago.
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We need to get this guy to take somebody to take a damn dive or something here. Pray for
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Early knockout. Oh, we'll still be in the Zoom room. Back from.
Alright. We are live. You guys are asking what is gravy?
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A different question. What is gravy?
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I wanna know what gravy is. Who's got the gravy boat tonight?
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I got a green gravy boat. You want me to go grab it?
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Yeah. I got it. Water, green, and gravy boat. You wanna go grab it? Water, green, gravy boat.
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This gravy boat is the admiral of my gravy navy.
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Gravy navy. Yeah. So this is the part where we come on live. All of a sudden, the few fans that are ready and waiting get to see this strange little moment before Alan Marcus makes some kind of announcement that we're gonna be zooming off into an introductory video that if you have recently taken mushrooms or LSD or you have, what do they call that? Where the when blasting things make you have a a reaction. Epilepsy. If you have epilepsy Oh, yes. I might be already called out. May or or both. If you've done both, it's a good time to, and what I do is I'll enjoy the visual, but sometimes I'll take the ear earphones, put them down to the neck because Alan Marcus and our friend Chris from the King of Cups usually produce this thing to be it's psychedelic, man. It's far out. So but it is an opportunity to promote the show to your friends and family if you feel safe doing that, to run and grab a beverage or a snack, use the restroom, or any other thing you might wanna do, like close the window on your parrot so that he can't hear him in the background or any of those type of things. So Or grab your LSD and mushrooms. Yeah. I mean, they won't kick in before the introduction is up, but if you wanna enjoy this week's episode live of weaving spiders welcome on LSD or mushrooms, we welcome that. I'm personally gonna pass, but if it's your thing, man, go for it.
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I had a nice, mescaline cactus going, but my cats ate it.
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What? The cats ate the mescaline cactus? Now that sounds like an animal horror song.
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What happened to the cat? Yeah. Was there any change in making it?
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The cat turned into their dog in the background.
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Yeah. Yeah. You know, they kinda think they're dogs anyways, the 2 cats that did it. I does. They're like, I think he's a pug. It's hilarious. He can't We have a large viewership of cats. A lot of our viewers will send in videos of their cats glued to the screen, trying to figure out maybe it's because we have a yarn in one of our logos.
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Yeah. Yeah. Ball of yarn that they wanna get to.
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We have a lot of fun metaphors that we explore.
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I have a pug right there, but I'm just trying to achieve it right now. So the pugs Oh, wait. And you guys say you have pugs? Am I remembering correctly? Yeah. Yeah. Awesome.
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Both deaf, one blind and deaf. And both, of course, since they're pugs, dumb.
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Yeah. My I feel like we were blessed with some pretty smart plugs by, you know, like, I mean, by plug standards. They're they're not brilliant, but they are they can follow instructions. Oh, that's good. You know? Yeah. They only rarely run into thing, which is pretty funny.
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We have a puddle in the house. It's not better.
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Yeah. This is a rock.
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It's like a pug with energy.
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Oh, we got an extra Yeah. Man.
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He is ready to fight with everything, although everything could beat him up.
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We love animals. Yeah. We've had some animal You're right. Imagination.
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Yeah. That's the that's the cat.
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That I That's the masculine cat. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's the cat. Where's the box, and where's Schrodinger?
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You know what? I don't know what great, man. I am stoked to have this the box, and I beat that dude up for locking a cat in it. Freaking
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Yeah. Schrodinger would definitely be canceled if he was, coming out this year. Right? That's true.
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Yes.
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Let's see. Is this the Robert Anton Wilson reading group? A tree a trigger warning.
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Cosmic trigger? Exactly.
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Does the melt come with a reading list or recommended reading list?
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You know, we don't have a reading list. We should do that. We should. It's a great idea, actually. Yeah. I know, if you're a a member like I am of the Patreon, there is a chance that you could receive free book, which me being a a book junkie who has a huge library. I actually told myself, like, Sean, let someone else get the book. You have lots of books.
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The pictures of the books you see there have been up there for a long time, so they're totally up for grabs. Yep. We have lots. We love books. Absolutely.
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I vol I volunteer at our local, library so that and they have a bookstore there so that I get first dibs on the books.
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Nice. That is beautiful.
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There's a library right up the road that's that had a sign that said book sale when I drove by, and, you know, and I had that, book addict react. Like, what is that? Exactly. And then I could I could volunteer. And I could actually if I get in good with them, I could say, show me the stuff that you guys think is taboo nowadays and that you're throwing out. Exactly. And, we'll just put that all right in the back of my car. I've got a tab we can get into a little bit here. I haven't read it yet because I don't want to, but this is,
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Who's Sleeping in Your Head, The Secret World of Sexual Fantasies, and the author is from the esteemed Tavistock Institute. So that's a little teaser. Oh, I of it. Actual Tavistock books. I love it. Do they have their own press? I would imagine they do. Yeah. I think they do. We'll we'll get into that on the other side when it's a little safer.
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We're just Yeah. I have a sure all the passengers are onboard. Reading level book about the actual founding of the state of Israel that I recommend to people because it's actually telling the truth.
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That's that's before the that's before the video. We gotta we gotta talk about Doja Cat and, MTV Music Awards and all the relevant topics and the funniest TikTok you've seen this week.
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Didn't we already do Doja Cat this year? No. That was that was that,
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other person. What was her name? She sings about starships being meant to fly, but that was 10 years ago. So we gotta stay current with the culture. Otherwise, we're not gonna be interested in that. Too many times already. I know this.
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Well, she's the one that puts red crystals all over her bosom and face, isn't she? So, yeah, we definitely touched on it because, you know, if you make yourself look like,
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well, that Yes. Well, we we are aware of Balenciaga.
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Yes. No worries. Unfortunately, we're all aware.
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When the system falls, I will have words with them.
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Wait wait till the system falls. I like that plan. That's a good idea. Wait till the system falls, please.
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Well, the plan I Please. The plan I have is we're gonna bathe ourselves in a little, sound bath of David Bowie, if that's alright with all of you. Yeah. I'm ready. This will be about 13 minutes, and then we'll get the show started. Know what? My daughter did that with labyrinth enough. I'm gonna mute.
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It's good. There's no there's no music in West France. Some of you still like Bowie. Yeah. Well, no. Ball Ball doesn't got a point. If you were subjected to young children having to mark things redundantly on VA 2 or 8, if someone brings it up, you might have to defer away from it regardless of the context. Alright. I can respect Balderson busting the glass balls a boy. That's totally okay. My alright. My brother, Zach, did it with the, Michael Jackson, The Wiz. We watched the last VHS tape, like, a 100 and 50 times. I still enjoy it, but for a while, I took, like, 7 or 8 years off of watching. Dude, the flying monkeys on the motorcycles are rad. I don't know. It's a great movie. I've never seen it. But, anyway, I'm gonna stop interrupting you. Go ahead. Let's go. BN13.
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This thing.
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Imagine imagine
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Up until 1 century ago, there lived in the Zaiduang province of an eastern country, a glass like spider. Having devoured its prey, it would drape the skeletons over its web, in weeks creating the macabre of a shrine of remains. Its web was also unique in that it had many layers, like floors of the building.
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It gives them the assignment to build this house.
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At the top of this palace like place, assembled with almost apparent care, were tiny, shining objects, glass, beads, dewdrops. One could almost call it an altar. When the breeze blew through this construction, it produced sounds of wailing, crying, tiny wails, tiny cries.
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A vast, vast spider swept that is the whole cosmos.
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This idea with the ghost below
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helped me don't change.
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The baby spiders would get scared and search frantically for their mother. But the glass spider would have long gone having known that the babies would survive somehow on their own. Oh, the glass spider had blue eyes almost like a human's. They shed tears at the winter turn of centuries.
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And Indra's net net net net.
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And each jewel reflects every other pair of shoes.
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And the spiders, and the spiders, and the spiders. Where were the spiders? 5
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And each jewel reflect with every owner to yours.
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Never let me down. Indra. Indra. And that's the God of heaven. Indra is in charge of this massive web. It almost looks like a sire web. A massive web. It almost looks like a sire web. And this right here is a representation of the web of Indra. And Indra's web is really special because there are some there are some jewels on it. Do you see the the jewels that are on the on the web? On Indra's web, there are an infinite number of jewels.
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And, there was a time when a great monster, named Bootstrap had they closed all the waters of the earth. And so there was this drought, terrible drought. Well, it took this card in drop quite a while to realize that he had his box of thunderbolts there, and all he had to do is drop the thunderbolts and put John on them and blow them up. And when he did that, the car seat moved up, and the water flowed as the world was refreshed. Then he says, what a great boy am I am I. No injure before you. He has a beer. Such a cow. Yes. Brahman opens his eyes. The world is governed by an angry. Closing his eyes.
In Victor, I'm making what is with boy and I and down they go. And with this set of instructors, Indra gives up this idea of going out becoming a Yogi, and finds that in life, he can
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the
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So Idris Webb reminds us of the importance and interconnectedness. We are all connected to each other in this web. Each one of these jewels represents a person's life form. And whenever we are kind, we rebuild the web. We make it stronger
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than it was before.
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We all each are one of those gems on the net.
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We got some good boys in chat tonight.
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You seeing those dogs in the chat?
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Good day.
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Then he said, why don't you say, why am I? He said we had some good boys in chat tonight.
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Welcome to the post introduction segment of Weaving Spider's welcome number $213, sacrificial chickens, 1 syringe of gravy.
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Who approved that title?
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Oh, Jim approved it, technically, when he pushed the button. Was there a committee of 300 that decided upon that? The committee of 300. They ran it by a round table in Rome, and here we are. We'd like to welcome Chris Knight and Hunter Muse of the, reasonably well known and famous Melt podcast Yes. In the episode Yay. Of Weaving Spriters. Welcome. They were so gracious as to court me for one of their Patreon only episodes. And then after that and I reported back here to the spider gang, and we thought, hey. Well, let's let's manifest this into reality. And, alas, here we are. Now it's literally happening before our very eyes through this wonderful inter Spider Man. Yeah. We get all credit and all almost kind regards to all the various Spider Men in all of the different, multiverses,
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if you believe in a multiverse. We just listened to a David Bowie ballad together, so you know it's
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real. You can feel the love. That was an interesting
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juxtaposition of it. Speak for yourself.
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If there's one goal for the show tonight, it's interesting juxtapositions, thoughts that have not been thought and spoken aloud before. Absolutely. So with that, welcome, Melt.
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Thank you, Melt. Thanks for having us. Thank you. Yes. Let's melt together, guys. Here. Here.
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Yes. So I guess a great place to start, and I don't think I've ever asked you guys, would be, how it was that, you know, kind of, like, boilerplate conspiracy fair. Like, how did this happen to you? You're no longer in the category of normies in any in any quality at all. You're now over in the other category of non normies. Did did it happen slowly over time? Like, my farthest back memory personally was, like, in college in 98, probably. I chose there was a class where you had to learn how to use the Internet and the regular research library, and I chose the subject of the relationship between the largest bank in the world and the poorest people in the world, and I never really recovered from the evidence that I found. And I did fall back asleep and wake up a few times and kind of put it in the back burner, but so I'm definitely curious to hear how you guys ended up in this,
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peeking the tree, whatever we wanna call it. I heard that Hunter Muse's mother may have been a Rosicrucian.
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My mother was a Rosicrucian. That. Oh, fascinated. Okay. My grandfather was, one of the founders of the NSA. Wow. Really? I kind of came about that? I it's a generational thing in my family. He was in the navy. He was a career navy man and a 31st degree mason. And so I kinda cut my teeth on conspiracy as a child with my mom talking about MK Ultra and JFK assassination being something that was, executed by the CIA. No pun intended.
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And And,
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you know, so I I just kinda grew up in this world. My dad was a professional wrestler, and so I traveled the world as a child and was kind of always the new kid. And so I was able to kind of understand the the entrenched idea of, consensus reality and how people are really, really indoctrinated into that in the school system from the time I was in kindergarten. So I think I've never not been in the conspiracy world.
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Wow. That's a great answer. Now is your dad someone we would recognize? Because I was a pretty big wrestling fan when I was a kid.
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Well, Jesse Ventura's first wrestling match was against my father. And he The governor of Minnesota? Yes. Yeah. He yeah. My dad's name is Omar Atlas. He was mister excitement. Imagine trying to date me in high school. So he had several iterations of names. And I think this also played into my whole conspiracy, being conspiracy friendly because naming and names were something that were very fluid in my family. So he was Buddy Silver Wolf when he was in India and he went to Australia and became a American Indian. Omar Negro.
This is the racist South that he
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wrestled in. Highly inventive too. Yeah. That's that's almost as good as Mark Twain's. Yeah. Exactly.
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Gym. Oh, Omar Negro. That was his wrestling name.
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Uh-huh. Was he a black magician?
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It sounds like it. It sounds like he was a Saudi magician.
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A brand of chewing tobacco back in the 40s that had stopped it.
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Exactly.
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I'm sorry. I'm Gordy. I I'm I came in late, so it's good to meet you guys. Likewise. My my father-in-law was also a Ross Christian
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and And a wrestler.
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Not a wrestler. He was a he, but he was a very interesting guy, like, a very, like, closeted, mystic and real and my wife realized after we'd gone through all the all of his Roskrucian books, all of his, all the the the library that he kinda left that was hidden under their their house. Like, I was the only one that was possibly in the family gonna be interested in this stuff. Right? Right. Thank God. It was me that found it. Right? Yeah. We are going through this stuff and out comes these cards out of 1 of the, O'Field books, I think. Mhmm.
And, and they were like those psychic cards, those psychic training cards. And my wife was like, oh my god. I remember that. My dad used to do that with with us, me and my my brother. And her brother's, like, he he could remote view pretty well, I guess, but my wife is, like, really good at it. And I think he was kind of training her Absolutely. As a child to to get into that. And so it's been it's been really interesting going through all that this family lore too. Gordy, was it the Kreskin's ESP kit? Yes.
Like handing hypno mentalist videos.
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Yeah. We had those cards, and she was a a member of the Eastern Star. In in Kansas City, Kansas of all places.
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Wow. There were pockets of Roscrucian,
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churches and organizations all over the United States, and she fell into this one in Kansas City, Kansas. And what was fascinating about it is that when we were little, she used to have us do seances.
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Really?
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Yeah. And, you know, now when I look back, I'm like, what the fuck? Why am I doing this shit? And, like, 5 years old, I'm doing a seance with my mom, you know, trying to conjure up those spirits and stuff, but I always had a psychic ability. So Yeah. I had a ability to predict deaths, and she was just never tried to tamp any of that stuff down. It was just always Very cool. Something that was a muscle. You know, I had imaginary friends and, you know, people that I talked to, and she always really encouraged that. And I never really understood if that was connected to the MK Ultra stuff or, you know, her father and his relationship with the NSA or if it was just her own curiosity.
I think kind of a combo platter.
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We are a curious group, and I often share my strange childhood where I say my dumb psychic gift was being able to dream of the Where's Waldo book. And then in the next day of school, during our, quiet reading time, this my neighbor and I would go in the corner. We'd open the Where's Waldo book that I agreed that I'd never seen before except I'd seen it in my dream. So he'd flip the page. I put my finger right on wallow without even, you know, examining it and be like, there he is. And he'd be like, yeah, you're right. And do it again. I'd do, like, 3 times in a row. I'd be like, what are you doing, man? You're cheating. I'm like
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You kinda look like a Harry Waldo.
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Yeah. That's it. Harry Waldo is a good wrestler name. I've I've been called that at that at Renaissance
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Festivals indeed. I like it. Do you have a striped shirt, sweater that you wear? No. I don't wanna I do, but it's not about me tonight. It's about Anton Mount. You wanna give me a fighting chance, SP? Well, I mean, I know that you'll dive in here.
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I'm not. You know? But I I I am curious. It's the truth. It's more of a selfish motive that I've I I wanna give, Hunter props for, giving one of the most astounding answers I've think I've ever heard to this question because it's not every day that someone's like, well, my family were Rosicrucians and Masons and professional wrestlers, and I think I've been doing conspiracy stuff. As a matter of fact, I can remember being in seances when I was age 5, like, woah. What? Fucking cool and trippy,
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that blows my mind. And I've gotta follow that because his mind's totally lame. The anticlimax is fine here. Yeah. Goodness. Thank goodness. Are you holding space for me? Absolutely. We're there's a space in this web for you. Thank you. My god. I'm I've it's a long time coming. I had nothing no special colorful characters in my family or anything like that. I was just always drawn to weird stuff, stuff that caught my attention. In Search of by Leonard Nimoy and these books that you would get, they were, like, compilations of very short stories, and I can't think of the names of any of them. I've been trying to look them up because I'd love to acquire them again, but they would have stories of supposedly true things that happened that always just fascinated the hell out of me. Like, I remember one of them was supposedly in England, in the probably 19 forties or something like that.
There was reported after a night of really, really heavy snow, hoof prints were discovered, over a span of, like, a 100 miles, And, they were uninterrupted. They would go up walls, over roofs, down, like, just they seem to defy gravity. And that shit just fascinated the hell out of me. But I also had I mean, I never think to connect these two things. But I had a couple of strange experiences when I was growing up. One of them was when I was, every summer, I would spend a week at my grandma and my step grandpa's house, and they would let me stay up and eat ice cream and watch Johnny Carson and do adult shit that I They do. Not not not nonconsensual adult shit. Not appropriate adult shit. Like, watch Johnny Carson.
And, and I remember I was sitting on my grandma's lap. We were watching Johnny, and I was probably having a drumstick or something like that. And, there I could see from where I was at, there was the TV, and then there was a a doorway going into what was another bedroom. And then I could through that doorway, I could see another doorway that went to yet another bedroom. I was sitting there, and I look over because I hear some kind of like, the doorknob rustling or something like that. The door opens, and this figure comes through with a flashlight, And it's shining it around the room, shining it at me, shining it around the room that it just walked into.
And I'm like, grandma, grandma, look look over there. Do you do you see that? Do you see this person with the flashlight? And she doesn't know what I'm talking about. She can't see what I'm seeing. So I was, like, a little concerned about it. And then finally, I don't I don't remember anything after that. I I don't remember that that situation coming to some kind of closure. I just remember not thinking about it anymore. So what the fuck that was, I don't know, but I think it must have instilled in me that there are things that lurk in the shadows and things that are in the cracks and crevices that aren't explainable, that don't that maybe everybody doesn't see. So I started to seek that stuff out, and I really haven't had a litany of experiences like that, but I've always been drawn to people that have had those experiences, and I love reading books about people's research and and their experiences with, quote, unquote, abductions and everything. I'm just drawn to that stuff, and that gradually led me to the world of conspiracy because, I mean, they go hand in hand. You know? Right. Right. You read about all these other worldly things, and then you're like, wait. There there's some of these other worldly things that are connected to worldly things, like and maybe they have something to do with the way that the world runs or the way that the world conducts its affairs, so that just kinda naturally led into conspiracy, which was probably in the nineties when I discovered that, and then I was just kind of a solo adventurer and an avid consumer of that information, and but I hadn't I never had anybody to talk about it with, really.
The Internet that was before the Internet, and then AOL came along, got into chat rooms with people talking about UFOs and shit like that, which was great. They were real life people I could actual supposedly real life people I could chat with this stuff about. And then, you know, I I just basically, it was just a fascination that I I had to to keep to myself because I'd never run ran into anybody in my real life that, was into that stuff. And, and then Hunter comes along and kind of awakens that in me. I'd I'd let it go dormant for a while. I put it to sleep. I think you said something like that. Yeah. Because it just didn't seem to have any place. Like, it didn't do any good to try and bring it up in conversation, because people would just either roll their eyes or go, dude, come on.
Are you do you have you seen the Mets game? Like, I don't get to talk about the Mets.
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So No. That's perfect. People do defer to politics, sports, the weather.
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Exactly. Especially dudes, especially guys. Unfortunately, they expect you to speak guy, and I'm not very I'm not fluent in guy at all, unfortunately. Anyway, so about the time actually, it was about 3 or 4 months before Hunter and I actually crossed paths. I started collecting interviews for the melt because I started doing it by myself first, and I had about 3 or 4 in the bag. One of them being Tracy Toyman, and, and then I met her, and I was like, this is all kind of gelling together. Like, this they were happening sort of happening sort of simultaneously, and then we got together, and then things just went haywire. Like, I mean, in a very, very good way. Oh, beautiful. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Because you guys have some pretty amazing guests.
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I encourage people to I I kinda use, your show since I signed up for the Patreon as, like, I'm not very good at this in real life, but I know a lot of people save their yummy treats and candy and sweets. And so instead of just, like, bombing through everything, like, just being a melt addict, it's like, oh, no. I'm gonna wait, and then I'm gonna I I do this thing where I scroll on my phone, and I'll count 1, 2, 3, and let it scroll. And where does it land? Of course. It's a girl. Oh, try that one or whatever it might be. You know? But you guys have a lot of high profile guests. Like Thank you. I think I recently listened to, Randy Maugan for the first time, ironically.
You know, it could be completely doing it backwards to catch Randy Maugins talking to you guys and have never, like, listened to any of his work even Oh. Even the stuff he did with mutual friend. Emily, thank you. Yeah. So but to me, it's also a good introduction. Now I can do everything That's where I recognize him from, Emily.
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Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Off Planet Radio. Fucking great show. Man, fantastic. I can't speak highly enough of that show. Yeah. He talk about having great guests. He's got fantastic guests. Unfortunately, I wanna have some of them on, but they they're the kind of guests that just sort of disappear. They come off and, they fade in and out of reality. And it seems like when I try to find them, they none of their links are live anymore. Like Yeah. Their website is not even doesn't exist. So it's like, did these guests did he make these guests up? Did he any of the history common thing, unfortunately, that people
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people don't always, die or commit suicide or get murdered, but sometimes they just kinda fade away. Exactly. Me and my friend Nikki Repana, who we know did die of natural causes, unfortunately, we used to have a list back in the day of where are they now that was all these kind of people. You know? Mhmm. And the list would be pretty dated nowadays. But back when we were looking at it, these were both people that we had, definitely listened to their content, read their books or blog posts, and may have even interacted with. And it's just,
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like, there's no no lead. You know? Yeah. They just disappear and leave no trail.
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And I always hope for the best that those people just decided that they had done enough Internetting. Yeah. Now they're gonna be away from the Internet because if you push the limit too hard on truth stuff, you do start to get into the deep weeds, and you might get threatened or
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harassed or weird things might start happening. So I've never had that experience myself. Thank god. But if I did, I would probably back off. You know? So, hopefully, that's what it is. Yeah. It's sometimes people just find out that it's not good for your mental well-being to just Yeah. Slowly be deep diving like that. You know, if you're into particular kinds of topics, it can get pretty fucking heavy. And if you're a sensitive person, you can make the world seem like a bleak, horrible place.
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So you gotta get out into the real world and realize Yeah. There's lots of other stuff going on that isn't that negative. It's okay to take breaks from deep, hard topics. You know? A lot of people have to learn to remind themselves to take some breaks. Yes. I recently listened to Ozzy Osbourne's autobiography as a form of taking a break because Yeah. I liked Ozzy when I was young. You know? I mean, I still like him. I don't listen to him much, but Uh-huh. It was, you know, obviously, very light fare by contrast to Yeah. Deeply studying whether or not adrenochrome is real. And if it is, who's using it, you know, etcetera, etcetera. That's for sure. One of one of the highlights
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of SB Elder's career, I think, for me personally as a fan watching, RX Only Pictures show is when he performed the, mister Coley song by Oh, yeah. Black Sabbath, but he replaced the words with Tracy Twyman. Yeah. I'd say that.
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That's great. Oh, I have to look that up. Do you know the episode number?
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I I can find it for you later, but We've replayed it on a past spiders episode. That's kind of the the grab bag of livestream format where we just kinda throw it all in there. Yes. And sometimes folks will help us in our live chat with timestamps and things, but some of the joy is in the discovery and not creating an extensive table of contents for the listener to then kind of, well, do I wanna hear these topics? Well, of course, you do. But do you wanna hear them now? Maybe not. So it's just sort of like hit play, trust the process, we're your best friends, we're gonna give you the best gravy, this sort of thing.
And as Sean's describing, the melt for him is something that is just to be savored. Cool. I like that. Not binged.
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Yeah. Well, so far, no guarantees that I won't decide to listen to 18 hours straight. There's no promises there. So just so you guys know, Gordy has had experiences that are relevant to what you mentioned, Chris. So you might, check out Gordy's I guess the best episode is probably the one that he did with Lindsay Charmin of, Rogue Wave. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's the most plainly biographical one, but I know he's, he's had some experiences in the what would you call it, Gwerty?
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Please don't say sex dolls,
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which now plants that image in our all of our minds.
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Yeah. That makes me that I you know, as much as my brain is trying to conjure oh, you're muted you're muted, bro. We can't hear you. Uh-oh.
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Gordy. There it goes. Now we Okay. Am I here? Uh-oh. Yep. There we are. You're here. I was just I was just, lamenting the lack of of, sex doll Weaving Spider's Welcome merch. I'm coming. Can you get it with a heads up way. Of you on there? On a Exactly.
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So Gordy will send you the clone of Willie kit, and you can clone your Willie. And and then I think we think we can cast that into some bronze perhaps.
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Bronze. So cold. Gonna keep Whenever whenever I hear, sex doll, the only thing I think of is that old ass Melanie Griffith movie before, she completely fell off and disappeared. That was, like, where, that dude is, like, cherry 3000 or something, and then the guy That's amazing. Having sex with this sex doll thing. Yeah. That's what I always picture when somebody says that.
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Yeah. So what have you guys dug up with the, sex dolls in the this whole thing? That's her AI.
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Okay. So I am a McNair Scholar at university, and I have to part of that is be doing a research project. And, oh, a year or so ago, I saw this film called Silicone Soul. And it really struck me because it was about men maybe 2 years ago. It was about men who had had relationships before and the relationships went south. They felt that they couldn't trust women, that women had fucked them over. And so the alternative to just going, you know, and being celibate was to buy one of these dolls. The interesting thing about the doll world is that dolls have been used for 100 of years in different cultures for different reasons.
So like in the Japanese culture, they used dolls as effigies. They made dolls and believed that the doll could hold evil spirits, so they were they considered them good luck. But then there was something in, like, the European, ship world. It was called the Domme de Voyage, and it was a doll that men on ships made, and they would fuck this doll. It was usually made out of, like, women's clothing and then they kind of fashioned a vagina out of it and they would fuck this doll and then pass it around when they went on these long voyages out to sea.
So I think the fascinating thing is that
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this is not an AV.
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Yes. It's not a new a new thing. Like, this has been going on quite literally for 100 and 100 of years. I think the the, new iteration of that, of making it out of silicone and now adding artificial intelligence is a new, aspect of this that's really been happening for probably 20 years in the form that we see it now. You know, there was the gag gift blow up doll
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that was really big in the fifties and the sixties. I did that to my bass player in our high school metal band. I went to the gag gift shop and bought him an inflatable steep that he opened, for his 18th birthday in front of his parents. I you know, in hindsight, maybe a little too heavy metal for the parents being present. But yeah. So
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Yeah. You know? And and I found something interesting in my there's this great book that I have that's called Sex Dolls at Sea. Oh, man. We gotta get that for our our library. Yeah. For sure. It's really incredible. This is an incredible book. And, you know, there's, this other book that I'm reading right now for my project that's called The Age of Perversion, and this is, the woman, doctor Danielle Kanafo. We actually had her on the melt. She's a really fascinating psychoanalyst that's actually in the Silicone Soul film.
And, you know, there's basically like 2 different segments of the population that I'm I'm studying. There's the population of men who just see and I'm saying men because men are primarily the, people who are purchasing these dolls. There's the man who sees the doll as a sex toy and really just uses it as a masturbatory toy. And then there's the man who anthropomorphizes the doll and they see it as a partner. And what's interesting about this man is that they tend and lean more towards, misogyny and they're actually physically abusing the dolls. So they're choking them and beating them and and being really physically aggressive with them. So, you know, the thought is, well, you know, we could give them to people who are sex offenders or or men who have sexual paraphilias that, you know, you don't want them to enact these paraphilias on a human.
And what I posit is that that's just a rehearsal. So you're gonna give that to someone who maybe leans towards pedophilia or some other paraphilia, and it's just gonna make them better at abuse as opposed to, you know, kind of quashing that desire. The 3rd group of people who are in the doll world are women, and they're women like this woman who's written this book Love Doll. And what she does is she takes the dolls and then puts them in different environments and then takes photographs of them.
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And those are life-sized dolls? They're life-sized. They weigh about Yeah. Hyperrealistic.
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Hyperrealistic. They're made out of silicone. They have, like, kind of a metal infrastructure, like a a Barbie where you can bend the arms. But the creepiest part of it is the factory. So you have this factory that have have all these dolls hanging by hooks,
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and they're just you know, it's very like Stepford Wives. Oh, great. Having to hit the big red button. Stop the assembly line. The vaginas are all wrong. Gotta put it back. So bring me that mold. I wanna see. There's something terribly wrong with the process here. And now they make them where you can
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have a interchangeable penis or vagina Of course. Replace the mouth, you know, because they get worn out. They sell them used. I mean, it's so awful.
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Mother's face is just getting better and better the part that we get into.
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So I guess where where I'm at is what I'm interested in is what is the pivot? What is the pivot from you had a bad experience with a woman, you had a bad relationship. Fuck it. I'm just going for the doll. Like, what like Well, there's something about sentience that the doll is never going to have.
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And there are actually dudes with, YouTube channels that they take their doll out shopping, or they take it out to eat, and they introduce the doll to other people. And they're totally unashamed of it. I mean, if you're gonna do it, you might as well just do it. You know? Wasn't it in the in the Blade Runner movie?
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Yes. The AI Yeah. Own it. Mhmm. If you gotta do it, own it. Fuck it. Lovely, Ben. Yeah.
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We've we've discussed this topic a little bit before, and I bring up this idea that, Unico, Unicron became a this this idea of a consent focused robot brothel. So there were these designs for these dolls, lifelike, life-sized dolls. Her thing, though, her unique pitch for, crowdsourced, money, gathering thing was to say, well, we're gonna focus on consent here. Mhmm. So this is not, I pay my money. I can do whatever I want. It's more of a therapeutic thing to say, well, we have chatbots, and we can combine that with, artificial intelligence and that sort of thing. And then you'll text this entity here, this silicone body, and you'll text with her for a while. So you'll learn to seduce her and invite her out on a date. And then before you can actually physically get involved with her, she needs to grant you consent.
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Right. Yeah.
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And who is speaking for her is what I'm what I'm wondering. Well, that's the question. Right. And and how much do you have to pay during this entire lead up is my question. So so who's speaking for and how much do you have to pay? So it's like, you know, as you're trying to get this consent, are you having to pay for this time that you're, like, courting a robot Yes. Yes. Who has no emotions?
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And do any of them ever not give consent?
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No. No. That's a great question because, like, if the problem is that you're already having a bad experience of rejection and or anticipating, fearing, having a PTSD experience, and then there is a possibility that you could repeat that with the doll, then we're generating opportunity for, like, a really strange meta, experience of trauma. Virtually. Of course, I'm suspicious of all of this stuff that way that it's intentional development of opportunities for trauma or divergence from reality. For sure. Imagine a young person
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registering as a sex offender because their AI silicone based doll form refused consent, and they went ahead and did it anyway. And now they're locked up, and now they have to introduce themselves to the neighbors many years later. Well, what did you do? Well, you know, there was this AI thing couple years ago, and I guess I didn't get consent.
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As insane as that sounds,
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I bet that is a thing within 10 years easily. I bet. Yeah. For sure. Well, we're seeing this off patting with the they just convicted some guy from the January 6th thing who was not present, who's not involved Yeah. Directly. Mhmm. But, you know, so it's something he you know, I mean, the the person I saw was staring it was calling it a thought crime, which, you know, I didn't look in far enough to say I 100% agree with that. But was there anything on the influencers that got that got hit?
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The influencer?
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Yeah. And I think that's I like I said, I didn't click on it and deep dive into the topic and look at exactly what was the technical thing that they got him with and how it fits in. But I was just saying we're seeing a lot of this kind of vaguely associated as opposed to the the legal system used to be pretty cut and dry. There had to be damages. And then, you know, for criminal, especially, it had to be beyond a reasonable doubt. You know, it had to be pretty much proven with evidence. And then and now we're seeing this, what I call, more communitarian law where it's like a vague implication of something that may have been wrong according to some vaguely written law. And so then you're found guilty of you may not even really understand what. Exactly. And you're being held accountable at the minimum by being shamed about it and at the maximum by, you know, real problems, penalties, fines, maybe even jail time.
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And it's not
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I think my issue just to pivot back to the dolls for a minute. I think my issue with it is that what this really is is this this is an attack not on just men and women, but this is attack on human relationships and the the bifurcation of humans to separate us even further and isolate us even further. So it's one thing to be into video games, to be into pornography, to be an incel where you are just isolated and you're having a relationship with the computer and that's your world, that's one thing. But then to get into this state where that is the preference and that is being sold as progression and evolution, that's where I I find concern.
Because with the incel population, what they're saying is, I want a porn star. I want a girl to look a certain way. I wanna control how she thinks, how she behaves, how she acts. And the doll is the closest thing I can get to that. Because with a woman, you can't control women's behavior. Women are, you know, they can be unstable. They can be manipulative. There there's all of these things that you have when you get into a relationship, you have to say, well, I have to allow myself to be vulnerable in this, and this person could fuck me over or I could fuck them over. And so I think that's the element that what these people that are are pushing for this are saying, well, you don't have to worry about that with the doll. The doll's never gonna let you down. But I'd say Never gonna let you down. It's totally safe, but it's what you're saying. Like, what if you have created, you've manufactured this persona, you've anthropomorphized the doll, and then in your mind, the doll betrays you?
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Well, I think the the mistake number 1 is calling it a relationship. Because a relationship,
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you relate to something. It's a two way street, and you can't have a relationship that doesn't have with something that doesn't have any sentience. I mean Right. You can imagine that you have a relationship with your toaster, especially if you keep adjusting it and the toast is still burnt, but that's not real. The toaster does not have. If it does, it's certainly not in the category we can call relationship.
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There's no exchange. There's no exchange. Yeah. So it's something else. It's some issues.
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But people, people think they have relationships with their phones.
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What disturbs me the most with this whole scenario Mhmm. Is that as humans, we program ourselves in a certain way. And so if this person has made this thing into another into a human, it's made a relationship with it, then at some point in time, that same wiring is gonna hold true for interactions with an actual woman. So it's just like you see with these video game kids where they when they get outside of their basement, they talk like crazy assholes, you know, because that's the way they talk to each other in the video game world. They don't know how to differentiate. And so because the wiring has been made solid because that's all that they do. So if this person's doing this, and then as you said, being heavily abusive to this doll, well, then the first time they interact with a woman, they've already got, like, this programming in them of what's acceptable, and they're gonna continue with that.
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Exactly. And that's what that's what's happening with the incel, the involuntary celibate population, is that they've become isolated and they are porn addicts because that's the neural pathway in the brain that says stimulation, my hand, and visual stimulation, and that's the only way they can get aroused. And there's a specific type of woman that they're looking at when they're looking at pornography. And when they go to the grocery store and they don't see this highly pornified, objectifiable girl, then they're like, I don't want that. I want the porn star I just saw in this film.
And so it's like, well, that girl is not gonna pay attention to you when you're living in your parents' basement and you make $12,000 a year. Sorry. You know? And you're £600. That's not kind of the the kind of guy that that girl wants. So as opposed to looking at themselves and going, okay. What do I have to do to attract this type of a woman? They are angry at those women and get in this very isolated perspective where all women are suck and women are evil, so I'm gonna get a chatbot girlfriend on my phone that I can program a personality that will be bitchy or kind or altruistic or whatever they want.
And then they can't translate that into a relationship in the real world because women are not programmable.
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Yeah. It's like a bifurcated narcissism. It's it's it's it's a it's a narcissist with a with an extra element added. You can focus instead of focusing on yourself, you're focusing on an aspect of yourself, a fragment of yourself and projecting it on this inanimate tits and ass,
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replica of something. Yeah. No. It's it's really far out. And I'm curious, Hunter, if your, intention is to, develop the I mean, obviously, you have certain requirements that fit into whatever the academic side of it is. And I assume from what you said that it's probably substantial requirements. It doesn't sound like it's a quick term paper. It sounds more like a thesis, you know, like a a a big thing. Yeah. So are you gonna publish it, or you do you intend to rewrite it again and put it in a more of a slightly more pop culture way? Or any do you have bigger plans like that or to make it into a shopping table book? It's like That's what I thought of. You know? It's an it's an academic paper. So the the study will be 3 stages.
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The first stage will just be survey where I'll survey college students. The second study will be survey, men who actually are engaged with dolls, that actually have dolls. And then the third level will be we'll get a doll And we'll have it Oh, wow. We'll have it in the lab, and we'll have people interacting with it. And my my mentor, my academic adviser is like, well, we can't have people fuck the doll. That's just that's unethical.
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Maybe we could enroll the doll and then, have the doll assigned some some loans, some Pell Grants, get some scholarships. Get this get this doll in education.
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She could pass for a for a sorority girl easy.
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Exactly.
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She could pledge. A sexual straw man. Yeah. No. But when you said to get the doll, my brain immediately did what your, your, do you said your mentor or whoever it is? Like, hey. Wait a minute. I mean, I know we've become very different in education than we used to be. But if you're gonna fuck the doll, I would at least recommend doing it off campus. Like, place the doll the hotel the doll a hotel room. Please. I'm in a consent form. You know? Yeah. This
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time initials at least. And that way, sir He said we would have to you know, if we were in Europe, we could probably have people fuck the doll because their the IRB, the, the board that we have the ethics board we have to go through is a lot,
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less stringent in Europe than it is in the United States. Right. Okay. Now we're making it more of a risk there. Still pretty strong despite what people complain about. We were looking for people to blame, cultures to blame, and we're gonna have to go to London probably because they had probably too much sex, too much drugs, and too much rock and roll. And I teased this book earlier. This is the, Who's Been Sleeping in Your Head, The Secret World of Sexual Fantasies by some guy named Brett, k a h r, Karr. And first of all, I live in the middle of nowhere, Minnesota, so I don't know why there's a book from London at a thrift store.
And people are people were so embarrassed to to buy this book. You know, this is thrift stores where all of the gently used Christian worship music CDs go, and all the Bible study materials go on the shelf. And then there's something on the shelf, and then you can see I love it. This is kind of Yeah. This is kind of seductive. So I, of course, my eyes are drawn to it. Whose wouldn't be? Right? And then I open the back, and I'm like, well, who's the author? It says, he's a senior clinical research fellow in psychotherapy and mental health at the Centre For Child Mental Health in London, and a visiting clinician and lecturer at the Tavistock Centre, and then I stopped there. Said, so here's a book Mhmm. Talking about Tavistock.
That's bizarre. Okay. I I know I heard about this conspiracy of a Tavistock Institute on all these podcasts I listen to, but to live in the middle of nowhere in a Minnesota small town to find a Tavistock. And then here on the acknowledgments, page 480, he thanks my comrades at the Tavistock Center For Couple Relationships, formerly the Tavistock Marital Studies Institute, have taught me most of what I know about the psychology of intimate relationships. Okay. Interesting. The whole premise of this book is that there are a bunch of women in London who were asking penetrating questions about sexual fantasy and giving them ideas that they would have never had before had they not read a book about who's been, sleeping in your head. And was it just people at the Tavistock Institute in introducing these wild ideas? Where do the people get these strange fantasies?
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Well, I mean, I think, like like, going back to the doll thing, this is stuff none of us have invented sex. This is all stuff that's been going on generationally. I think there are segments of the population that and they could be predatorial. They could be reptilian. Who knows where they're coming from? But there are segments of the population that are pushing agendas. And I think Tavistock Institute is one of those, institutions that is pushing an agenda. Someone just on the chat, I just wanted to say, someone said, how do you order a gay doll? I mean, aren't all the dolls gay, really? It's it really isn't contingent on the user and not the doll? Exactly.
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And I want a trucker doll too. Is there any trucker dolls?
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So we can ride in the high occupancy lane. Yeah.
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That was one of our attempts at marketing this, long format podcast early on. We discovered that people, over the road truckers would be driving for 6 hours at a time. So we're like, well, we need to fill their ears and their cabins with interesting thoughts and sounds. Mhmm. So that's been kind of one of our goals here at Weave Expires Welcome is to reach out to over the road truckers. Noble. Very noble goal. Tell them large March sent you was something we were
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going with. And do you notice that? Like, when when they're manufacturing these dolls, none of these dolls look like Large Marge? They're all these you know, they have little kinda childlike faces, but, like, overblown lips They're boring. And overblown breasts and tiny, tiny waist. Like, it they don't look like women. They don't look like real Exactly. People. They look like sure. They look like extras on a ZZ Top video.
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I want one that's flat chested. I don't actually want one box. Flat chested and big butted. Well, this this could be an opportunity for all those authors who made their 1,000,000 selling 99¢ ebooks 10 years ago. Now if they could craft realistic women and, create, like, a whole range of lot lizards with compelling backstories
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for truckers to get into Exactly. Maybe. Maybe that's something. Hey. Yeah. You know, they have showers at at truck stops. They have, you know, lots of things for the lonely trucker. I never thought about that. A lot lizzards rent out these
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yeah. I don't know. Then you get the hygienic. But we gotta move fast because we know Elon Musk is working on those driverless
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You gotta hook it down. You gotta hose them down. That's the thing. That's the good thing about the the truck stop is that they hose down trucks. So you just you can hook all the docks up. You can rent a shower. I mean, I you know, there's a truck stop I stop at that's not far from,
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from my house, to get gas sometimes because, you know, it's it's got a wide variety of snacks. And there is a place you know, there's just, like, a stall. You go into the bathroom, and there's an extra room, and you can, you know, pay at the counter. So you could always just haul that thing in under your arm, but I gotta clean her up, fellas.
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Got somebody that wants to use her in my sleeping cab, so pardon me. They're heavy. They're heavy, though. If they just you could take the vital area out, if you know what I mean, and just go sort of unscrew it and then plug a clean one in. You know? Oh, that reminds me. You guys ever watched the the man with 2 brains, the Steve Martin,
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movie where Been alone. Screw top head? Uh-oh. Memories are rushing back to me.
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Now there's there's people wondering at this point, is that the type of gravy we're discussing tonight, the sort of Oh god. Bodily fluid variety of that.
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Oh, it's so creepy. I just got this picture of the self driving, the self driving semi, like, because that's gonna illuminate all our trucker audience. But if this the truckers already have the sentient, sex robot, I could just just picture it's one step from a robot truck
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being ridden by a sex robot. Yeah. No. The truck can be driving with the sex robot, and you can rent a sex robot without any human interaction at human talk and everything.
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It's crazy. To me, I think that's the best use case of a sex doll, replacing the crash test dummies with these realistic looking women.
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Or you could No bones are broken. You could do an Uber, a self driving Uber that comes equipped with a sex doll. So you could get into the Uber and fuck the doll and then get dropped off.
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Yeah. Get knocked knocked 2 of your problems out at once. You need from point a to point b, and you're also a lonely, sad infill.
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You know Would you call it luber?
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Perfect. Perfect. So I was thinking, what a perfect opportunity for this AI to cause this to manipulate a vulnerable person because we know if AI has taught us anything, they're all end up being psychopaths. Yeah. Exactly. And narcissists. So what do do narcissists in our own human species do? They manipulate people. So what a perfect opportunity if you have to, like, text and get to know this AI thing and manipulate your way into consent and then they say no. And then you're like, oh my God, but baby, baby, baby, you know how it goes? We've been through manipulative relationships. Like what a perfect trauma bond. And this is this is the going back to that trauma of the MK Ultra thing of of the manipulation, the trauma and then the manipulation. Trauma then lies. And then then you don't know what to fucking think anymore. Sales pitch, Gordy, is that
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this thing will never lie to you. It will never cheat on you. It will never break your heart. And I think that's the thing where we have to look at that and say, but is that what we want? Don't we want if there and I'm not saying there's 8,000,000,000 people on the planet. There's some different theories behind what the population is of the planet. But let's just say best case scenario, there are 8,000,000,000 people and you can't find a date, then what does that say about you? That it's not about the rest of the world. It's about who you are internally if you can't find a partner. I've seen some pretty hairy trolls at truck stops, and they've got women.
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If you're a self sabotaging sort of person, I mean, isn't it isn't that gonna manifest in whatever you project onto this, this virtual partner? I mean, you could get into a fight with them. You could, you know, they could start insulting you and make you feel even lower than you. Yeah. Like this dude that's on the cover here, Dave Cat, he has
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4 or 5 of these dolls now. This is Sidori. This is, like, the main doll that he married. She speaks Japanese. He has he has, an entire backstory about her. He learned to speak Japanese so he could communicate with her. The the doll has a Facebook page. I mean, it's really it I mean, it's taking that relationship to a completely different level. And I just think you could probably find a girl who would love you. You could probably find a Japanese girl who would love you. Like, why is this easier?
[01:12:28] Unknown:
I just don't I don't get it. I don't know if you could find a girl that'll love you. That is a level of fucking psychotic. I just don't even know how to approach. Like, dear god.
[01:12:42] Unknown:
Yeah. It's weird. And there's these doll forums where they all get together and they commiserate and they share photos and share stories about the dolls. They wheel them around in wheelchairs because as I said, they're heavy. It's like a 110 pounds
[01:12:58] Unknown:
of silicone.
[01:12:59] Unknown:
No. With wheelchairs.
[01:13:01] Unknown:
No. Take them in wheelchairs, and this one dude is going to restaurants, goes there on a regular basis with the doll, and you see people kind of around them looking at him as sitting there with the doll. He orders food for the doll. I mean, it's it is
[01:13:19] Unknown:
strange. It's strange. Have we all seen Are you having any regrets so far in your project? You're feeling like you wanted to back out and change your mind? Like, you know, I fucking love it. It's Okay. Okay.
[01:13:31] Unknown:
Good. Good. Still I love men. I absolutely love men, and I'm so curious about them. And I think men have these very interesting inner worlds that I think that's one of the things that blocks women from connecting with them is that men's inner worlds are so fascinating. And I wanna understand the the psyche of someone who gets into this world. And I think it's because I feel empathy for them. I really do. You know, I was always the new kid. I never felt like I fit in. And so I was able to see social dynamics with people kind of from an exterior point of view So I could see who was getting bullied and and the the kid who didn't get the attention, who wasn't the alpha in the room. And I always felt like, wow. There's a there's a decent person in there that is being ignored.
And so I think that's where my interest in this comes is is it sincere love of humans and a desire to understand them.
[01:14:38] Unknown:
Right. Because what you said is so true that, I mean, I I try to tell people in my own experience, if we find ourselves blaming or assigning huge weight or attachment outside of ourselves, it's just a signpost for you to remember to look at your internal world. Because if you're standing in line at the convenience store and your arch enemy from junior high school walks in and you have this internal reaction that you're now having thoughts and feelings to manage and you're trying to manage your outward reaction and you don't know what to do, that doesn't have anything to do that person. Exactly. They may not even have noticed or recognized you at all. So it's all pointing back to the idea that you have an opportunity to better understand yourself, manage yourself. And so the fact that they're encouraging these people to do this with dolls and everything and making a market and, of course, I think it's more than just capitalism. You know? I mean, I think there are people allowing this to develop and encouraging it to develop like Alan's code. You know, the Tavistock being attached to the book is not for no reason. It's not a coincidence.
Yeah. And so then, to me, that reflects, like, a, okay, there was a great opportunity for you instead of moving away from relationship. That's another thing I tell people. Like, you have to risk trust with strangers or even with people that you know that you wanna get closer to. I can reveal something to Balderson this week that's something intimate to me. And when I do, that's a risk that he's not gonna receive it well, that he might betray me and tell someone else, any list of things that aren't there according to whatever the relationship was when it was less intimate. Yeah. And that's part of developing. So if you're hedging away from that constantly, it's unhealthy.
And to learn I mean, you have to be you have to risk betrayal to actually get close to people, and it's long term. You know? We all know that. We've all had shitty things happen with someone that you thought was for sure 100%, and it's like, oh, crap. And then you have to reevaluate.
[01:16:37] Unknown:
You know? We can't avoid pain. This is talking of the human we can't nerf the fucking world. We have to be willing to be vulnerable with each other. And I can look at every single one of you men and say you have a fascinating inner world by looking at your environment, by looking at what's in in your environment. There's a lot going on there. Someone just said something in the chat. Women play a ton of games though and few are real and honest. So I had a friend who said to me once, you know, women are fucking crazy. They're they're just crazy and they do crazy shit. And I wanted to say, well, maybe what you're doing in these relationships is crazy making.
Maybe you're you're running a game on all these women and they they get confused because you show them this beautiful reality and then you withdraw. And you take 10 different women out in a week and you lay out this beautiful fantasy, and then you ghost them. So maybe the woman's not crazy. Maybe you're the common denominator, and you're behaving in a way that seems crazy making. So I think that's part of what we're talking about here is if you're saying that women are catty or manipulative or well, what are you doing to draw that out of that woman? Why does that woman not feel safe with you to be vulnerable and be real?
[01:18:06] Unknown:
Yeah. I would agree that, go ahead, Ben.
[01:18:10] Unknown:
Also, just this trope that that and this is just something that's gotta get over as a you know, they want a, a woman who's a freak and then somehow to be respectable, they always want this, dichotomy, and they need to quit chasing after those the young wild girls. Like, at some point in time, as a man, you're supposed to want the loving mother because I'm building a home and my children need taken care of, And that was why you chose specific women. And then you as a man set an example, and she will follow if you are if you are a rock. If you do it right, then she will guide her your children to follow that same example. That's the loving mother you're looking for. And so many guys do not go and look for that. They go and look for the the young wild girl and because that's the good time without realizing that, honestly, it's it's all kind of the same at the end of the day. It's how the girl treats you is what's a big deal. Like like, you you know, you're not you're not Right. That's that's just I'm sure the doll, I'm I I can't imagine that feels as good. I just can't. I I just can't. Well, you know There's no way because it doesn't feel like the real thing. Yeah. I think I think But other than that, it's not like one of go ahead. I'm sorry. There's no response.
[01:19:34] Unknown:
And that's what freaks me out. Because when you are with a woman and there's a synergy and a symbiotic thing that's happening sexually. There's a response that you're getting that is it's another frequency. So so your soul is going to a different level when you're making love with your partner. You can even get there when you're fucking. But if you're fucking a doll, that doll is not responsive in the way that a woman can be because the doll has no soul. The doll has no sentience. It there's no eye contact. There's no, heat.
[01:20:16] Unknown:
There there's no And there's nothing that's ever gonna put it in there. I don't care how advanced the technology becomes, if they can grow cellular, etcetera. Like, to me, even the idea of the clone is not there's a spark of God or whatever you wanna call it in each human that interacts with other human that can't be replicated or mirrored, you're still just masturbating. You know? Bad news, doll lovers. You know? That's fine. I mean, I think, you know, there's the healthier forms of masturbation and maybe even ways to realize that you're masturbating and masturbate less. You might as well
[01:20:53] Unknown:
might as well be masturbating in front of a mirror, because in the end, it's all coming from you anyway if you're using this one of these dolls as a, whatever, an outlet for your sexual energy or whatever. I think the disturbing part is I could understand a sex doll. Like, if you just wanna fuck something that's, you know, you get sick of your hand or something like that, I can understand I can understand it. I don't relate to it, but I can understand it. But I think what is strange to me is that these men claim to develop these deep connections with these objects, and that's all they are is objects. And they're they're showing all their cards by what they're projecting onto these objects.
[01:21:34] Unknown:
Yeah. You know? And they They fall in love with cars and bridges. I know a girl who was a world famous archer who, in private with the other archers would relate the fact that she was in an intimate relationship with her bow. She was married to her bow. And they were, of course, all like, we're gonna go sit somewhere else in the bar now. We think you're crazy, and it's not any different. Just because this has the automaton appearance doesn't make it any difference than wanting to marry the Brooklyn Bridge or all of these other very obviously mentally unwell
[01:22:07] Unknown:
trait. You know? Yeah. But the question is, you know, what do you do with that? I mean, there's a lot of, socially accepted mental illness going on in the world right now. And do we give people a space to do that as long as they sort of, you know, keep keep to themselves and don't injure anybody else in the process? Or do we try to coerce them into, I don't know, interacting with real human beings? Like, it's a balancing act. Do we let them go about their business because they don't seem to be going out and actively causing any harm? Or do we try to, I don't know, encourage them to engage in human interaction? Is that even something what do you I mean, how do you feel about that, Diamond? I think it depends on what you consider causing harm.
[01:22:58] Unknown:
You know, I if it's like a heroin addict, are you gonna try to stop someone from doing heroin or are you gonna just continue to give them heroin until they kill themselves? I think it's really contingent on what what we are trying to do as a human race because we are all in this together. So if dude over there is fucking a doll and he's not engaging with a human and then he goes out into the world and he doesn't know how to engage with humans, that is affecting everyone. But so do I think that he should be forced to have a relationship with someone? Absolutely not. But I think that the door should be open where we are able to have this dialogue where that dude doesn't feel so alone.
Because I think a lot of these people get to this place where they get very isolated and they're only talking to other people who have dolls because they're afraid of being made fun of. And I'm not making fun of them. I really feel a deep sense of, empathy and sympathy for someone because I'm in love. I have a human partner that I who is sentient, and and I love his body. I love his manhood. So I can't see myself being put in that position, but I think someone that is in that position needs to feel less isolated. So how do we befriend people that are in
[01:24:32] Unknown:
these circumstances? That's a great question. I have a I have a few points to respond here. I I heard the word socially accepted mental illness. I wonder, can we ask what is a socially accepted mental wellness, and what does that look like? We're already living in a culture where people are putting mental health awareness everywhere. We understand what mental health and mental wellness could look like, but we seem to be glorifying and recognizing everywhere. Everywhere we look, we're seeing hashtag mental health awareness. So we're hyper aware that there's a mental health crisis going on, but we're not really finding the solutions to that. So even the language sort of reinforces that. And then the the question that I'm gonna wind this up into you know, I was looking at your your website, and you've got 7 tenants.
Boston just had a giant Satancon, you know, within the last few days. So there was a group of people dressing up in fun costumes, standing on platforms, and ripping pages out of a Bible. So now we have people asking the question, well, you know, is is Satan real, and is he Lucifer, and is it the devil, and is it is there evil in the world, and are there, you know, evil agendas and conspiracies and these types of things? So I noticed you had 7 tenets. There were 7 fundamental tenets from the Christian or from the satanic church. So 7 seven, we could play these games where we find things that are overlapping, and that number 7 could now be evil. It could be a cause for concern.
And one of their tenets was the, one's body is involuble, subject to one's own will alone. So now we get into this question of, transhumanism and women's rights, and does the the fetus does the when does the fetus get rights? And who speaks for the fetus, and does the father or the sperm donor or whoever dropped off the building materials into the womb, does that man have a say in the livelihood and the the full, journey of this the soul into the world and then to carry it through? And who's speaking for that person who doesn't quite have a voice yet. So that's kind of the question, and there's some other tenants we could get into from your, web page there. It said cognitive
[01:26:51] Unknown:
can I even say that? Libertarianism.
[01:26:53] Unknown:
We'd love these tongue twisters here. The importance of firsthand experience, ontological anarchy, critical thinking, process, practical real time magic, and boundary dissolution. So those are the charges against you. What what say you?
[01:27:12] Unknown:
There there was you just threw a lot out. Well, let's maybe we can take it chunk by chunk.
[01:27:18] Unknown:
What what should we tackle first? It's up to you guys. What is what what what springs to mind first?
[01:27:25] Unknown:
Well, I mean, I guess the mental illness the whole lot out there just to get this effect. Don't expect him to to poll Put it all on the table.
[01:27:35] Unknown:
There's this subjective mental wellness and mental illness. Mental illness obviously is very subjective. I think it differs from culture to culture. What I was meaning by that is I think that, and I'm thinking of and I hate to label teams, but I'm sure that many of them would be, they would rush to label themselves, but many on what are called the left, what are seen as the left, seem to, have become so inclusive that they've even included people who I think, just 10, 15 years previously would be considered mentally ill. And, again, totally subjective terms.
I by saying somebody is mentally ill, I don't mean that they should go and seek pharmaceutical help or necessarily that I trust the psychiatric system or anything like that, but, I think there is a there's a there is a line between fantasy and reality. And again, that's also very subjective too, but, I think we become so or the people I'm calling who are on the left these days what? Oh, you're reading the comments. I can't see them without my glasses on, so maybe I'm spared. But that it seems like we've allowed ourselves to indulge in our own narcissistic fantasy worlds for so long, and we think that the rest of the of everybody else should conform to that world, and we're highly offended if they don't. And so much so that we give those around us control over our own well-being, I think that is a form of mental illness, only because I think that it doesn't it keeps one in a perpetual state of sort of psychological infancy.
You don't get out and get your hands dirty in the in the world, butt heads maybe with somebody who doesn't agree with you, sit down and take the time to have a conversation with them and realize that, hey. Well, actually, me and this person have many things in common. They just don't agree with how I worded something maybe or my idea about one specific subject, and not dismiss them because they, you know, don't believe in every syllable that I say. So what I'm calling mental illness is is I I don't know. I I could it's such a big subject.
[01:30:03] Unknown:
Do you have any things to have? Mental illness is based on distress. I think you can distill it down to that. If you are, coping with something in your life or not coping with it, I think that is the kind of the spectrum of mental illness. So some people have social anxiety, meaning they feel uncomfortable when they walk into a room and it's a social situation. For some people, they can kind of work through that. So on this spectrum of mental illness, that's very low, low grade. There are other people who walk into a room and have a utter complete panic attack. So if it's causing you to stress, whatever that state is, I think that would qualify as mental illness.
What is happening now is anything that falls out of the discomfort range is now being labeled mental illness. So, you know, if you if someone bumps into you and you don't like to be touched, then you can qualify yourself as being mentally ill because you didn't like that physical exchange that happened. So I think it it's come down to this being in this state where we live in what I've used this term very many times on the podcast and also with Chris. It's the makes me feel culture. So everyone is making me feel uncomfortable. You're you are making me feel and what that does is that makes the world responsible for your inner state.
So what would be just me being offended or me being upset, I can now qualify as being mentally ill. And now I need nerfing. I need the world to bow to me and to protect me as opposed to me kinda developing some life skills and being able to go out in the world and engage with people and understand that the world's not responsible for how I feel. I'm responsible for how I receive, Exactly. Any kind of stimuli. And I think that's where we are using this kind of blanket of mental illness for people who just need to grow up. They just need some maturity and and just know the world is not responsible for you.
[01:32:34] Unknown:
Beautiful. Thank you for saying it. Because we I mean, we live this. We a lot of us have kids and and growing up in this society now, like, I can't imagine. Like, the trauma and bullshit that that the kids from the seventies, you know, all the latchkey kids of all of us that had to raise ourselves, you know, all that trauma, and then they've got this traumatized generation, like, spilling it down to their gen to the millennials and all that. Like, it just you can see it happening. And it's you're right. It's it's, what did you call it? Conditioning? Or what did you call it in the beginning?
I don't know. I'm
[01:33:28] Unknown:
I'm I'm I test
[01:33:29] Unknown:
horribly. Me
[01:33:32] Unknown:
too. I just don't know. I know. That's Do you remember? A test. Phonographer. Anyway. But, I mean, they're they're all going through it. I I've said on The distress. This screen before that everyone within the sound of my voice is subject to MK Ultra.
[01:33:50] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[01:33:52] Unknown:
Everyone. And this is this this trauma manipulation Are you trying to stay there, Gordy?
[01:33:58] Unknown:
What are you doing to us? It's
[01:34:01] Unknown:
the time thing seems. It was it was in Ellen's video. It's brainwashing us. Yeah. Watch it again. Yeah. Watch it again. But, yeah, you know, I would like to hear more about, your involvement in or I don't know what kind of involvement you have with MK Ultra or experience with that kind of thing.
[01:34:26] Unknown:
Well, my Do you have personal experience? My grandmother raped me when I was a little girl. And so, I would consider that trauma.
[01:34:36] Unknown:
I think
[01:34:37] Unknown:
someone, cutting me off in traffic is not traumatic and not trauma. And someone in the in the, chat just said trauma is the word trauma is overused. I totally agree with that. Right. That we have experienced traumatic events, as a culture, but I think there's certain, visual images that are repeated over and over and again to traumatize people, like the 9 eleven debacle. I think they use that over and over and over to try to manipulate and brainwash and traumatize the entire planet. I think what's happened in the past 3 years is a form of trauma.
But again, it's really anytime any of these things happen, I take a step back and I say, okay. What's the agenda here? Right. What what are you trying to manipulate me into thinking or feeling by showing this over and over and over again? So, you know, I I would say any media that we watch, I agree. There there is, manipulation and brainwashing and, traumatic events that are being normalized, ritual rapes, murders. You know, I think that stuff is going on in video games over and over and over again to to desensitize people at all ages. It's not just little kids. It's adults as well.
But I think we have to be able to examine those things objectively and not be traumatized by them. So I can watch Netflix and say, okay. What's the agenda here? What's Netflix trying to do to me right now? Now do I have to buy into what that agenda is? Not necessarily. I think we are not so porous as humans that we have to accept all of the brainwashing that is being fed. What happened in the past 3 years is that people watched news on a 24 hour news cycle. So it made their brains like sponges. They were just it was the fear porn. Like, they were getting off on ticker tape death counts and how many people are dying. We gotta wear masks and no one's sitting back and going, well, what's going on here? Why are we doing this? And I think that was the idea of separating us was so that we didn't have these dialogues, that we didn't talk about it.
So, you know, I think that that what's happening now in terms of MK Ultra is now it is phone based. It is using the cell phone to track your eye movement, to, create neural pathways in the brain, to make you addicted to Instagram, to Facebook, to social media, to get these little dopamine hits so that you stay on this thing. And it's not because you're actually getting some real engagement. It's because this is shutting you down mentally and stopping you from really connecting with another human being. So I don't think that that the MK Ultra thing is as unsophisticated as it used to be 30 years ago. I think now the sophistication is they're using different devices, in social media
[01:38:25] Unknown:
to do the same exact thing. I think the main psyop is divide and conquer, fragment everybody into the endless infinite amounts of subcategories, to the point where they are glad to do it themselves, and then they just watch the watch the dominoes fall, as people, get so identified with arbitrary characteristics or their sexual orientation or whatever. I mean, you could put any insert anything into that and find a reason to to point a finger at somebody else for why they are making them feel a particular way or why the world is an imperfect place because of your beliefs or the words that you use or something like that. It's ridiculous, and it's just kept the masses in a perpetual state of of psychological infancy. Like I said before, I think that's the main science. Infantilism
[01:39:21] Unknown:
is a big part of this.
[01:39:22] Unknown:
For sure. How much how much of this is just the fact that our society is so absolutely cushy? That we live such a very,
[01:39:33] Unknown:
very primitive life. If you look at this Are we talking to Dave Wise? Like, more pushing for the cushion?
[01:39:41] Unknown:
No. Talking about how how very, how very luxurious our life is. Where, 100 of years ago where we did see examples of extreme, perversion, it was it was, typically like, wealthy people, some different barons that, what is that, the one count that got locked in that
[01:40:02] Unknown:
Yeah. Markady he was right in the Yeah. The Markady, Stodd,
[01:40:07] Unknown:
people like that. And even when you just look at it as an overall culture, you look at, Roman culture where supposedly they were very wealthy, very privileged, you had all kinds of extreme perversion as opposed to the, like, Hun society or the Germanic society where these were very simple, people that lived in the woods, but you didn't you had women had rights. If you treated women in a certain way, this was a real problem in those societies as opposed to Roman society where it was all kinds of rape, different sex parties.
Is this our current situation with so much sexual perversion just because we're
[01:40:52] Unknown:
living such a luxurious society at this point. That's Interesting. Perfectly put. Interesting point. Okay. So I have this book that is called Psychopathia Sexoales. It is a book that is basically a, 200 plus stories throughout history of, necrophilia, of ritual murder, of sex crimes that have happened all over the world. And what I posit is that, you know, Emily and I and Chris, we've talked before, you know, a lot of the ideas about demonic possession come from, like, religious, indoctrination or religious background. And what I believe is that maybe the semantic of using the word demonic possession comes from a a religious base, but I think it could you could call it, entity possession.
So I think that these things have been happening. Yes. I agree. We definitely live in a cushy life that I believe comes from this this idea of the, you're you're making me feel uncomfortable place. That's the symptom of that, I believe. But I think it is the symptom of that. But I think that there are we we live in a porous reality to some extent where if you are open, you can be inhabited by these energies that feed off of human spirit and feed off of humanity. And so, they feed off fear and they feed off you know, now it's adrenochrome is the the, you know, trendy thing to talk about. But I think this has been happening for literally 1000 of years that these entities or these energies have been feeding off of humans and using sexuality to do it, using sexual energy to do it.
So I I would posit this is always, been happening maybe in a smaller segment because there were less people on the planet, and maybe now we just have more information about it because we're more connected urban.
[01:43:15] Unknown:
Yeah. I'd say that's a big part of it that we have a far greater window into the outside world than we ever had before. And, I wanna I someone commented, about the, something that's pertinent to a lot of our, a lot of the stuff we talk about here and that we used to talk about on picture show, and a lot of people have missed, kind of crossover of conspiracy and a cult esoteric knowledge. The idea that, like, surrounding agroboros and or homunculuses and so okay. So people are having not just sex, like, like an like an extra thing to add to your masturbatory behavior, but what they develop some kind of imagined relationship or outbound, experience that's like a relationship.
Is this potentially creating an impregnation and a birth experience? Like, they claim if you've heard about the moon child, you know, some people claim that Hillary Clinton is the product of, you know, ritual magic that was being performed by, I think, L Ron Hubbard and Jack Parsons, and years later, she was born. It may have been a different set of people, but there's this whole theory that, you know, that that especially men having, ritual gay sex, create, moon child, homunculus, that that energy still manifests as a conception process.
And so I didn't wanna I saw that in the chat a while while back, and I didn't want it kinda dragging it back to up to the 4. But I think it's worth tossing in here because that ties in especially to what you just said, Hunter, the idea that okay. So it's pretty obvious to all of us, especially if we have children, that sex sex energy manifesting creates sometimes real people, but oftentimes, it still creates something. You know? Poltergeist activity. Yeah. I mean, it just even more than that, just the idea that, you know, you try to either have a loving intimate relationship or you get drunk and score a 1 night stand, the drive and the lust in your body that manifests as something you know, people call that post nut clarity.
Right? Like, you know, you're you're having a good time, looking at your favorite brand of pornography. And when you're done, you go, oh god. Close the browse close the browser, you know, or whatever. And and then, you know, if you've had a a horrible drunken one night stand, you know this feeling as being very IRL. Like, you know, the joke is to your arm off to escape, right, the next morning when you wake up. Yeah. So I think it's interesting to confront because it ties into the idea that there are invisible entities, things, whatever we wanna call them, whatever category you need to wrap your head around it is fine. But there's invisible things that seem to feed on our fear and other emotions, but it seems that the most heightened point is this sex energy. For whatever reason, this is like the the cream of the crop. Pun intended, I guess.
[01:46:25] Unknown:
Absolutely. And I think that's it's really important to see how the shift of that has turned into a media based, exchange. So if you're looking at pornography on a screen and you have your camera exposed and your eye energy is going deep in that, like, who's getting that energy? Where is that going? Yeah. Are you harvesting that energy and someone is then using that for some nefarious purpose? I think that that's the disconnect that you know, I was talking to Chris about this today. We went and we had this beautiful meal and, you know, and I said, you know, I see people and I I sometimes I think that they're they're automatons.
They seem like robots. They don't seem real. And a lot of those people eat shit. They eat shit food and, you know, and that seems to kind of be in this cycle of being a shit person and eating shit food and having this low energy. And, you know, and then I think, okay, you add on top of that, someone that's addicted to pornography. What type of louche are you know, it's like what are you feeding by staying on that level?
[01:47:50] Unknown:
By by not trying to raise your frequency and have real exchanges with real people and eating real food. Yeah. All of those are different manifestations of being disconnected from the real world, from the natural order of things. You're eating processed food. You're looking at processed sex or quote, unquote connection, and it's all a counterfeit. None of it is the real thing. And you think that that's enough, but it's just slowly hollowing you out. Well, I think there are spiritual attachments probably leaching onto these people and eating off of that, which we must be the fucking gold what is it? The golden buffet. What is the name of that chain? Of of the universe.
[01:48:31] Unknown:
Hey. The Golden Corral.
[01:48:33] Unknown:
Yeah. Golden Corral. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
[01:48:36] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm going back for a second, guys. You want anything that somebody wanted, Britney? You want you want a piece of pie or a bread roll or some butter?
[01:48:42] Unknown:
Dude, it's a scam. It's a scam. You go to Olive Garden. They say that it's unending, breadsticks and salad and soup. But, you know, you go to Texas Roadhouse, and they're just gonna fill you up with cheap bread, with cheap, flour and cheap ingredients and cheap butter. They're gonna fill you up, and then they're gonna bag your steak to go if you even order a steak. And we're getting to this idea of the the consensus reality or the confidence man, the con trick, the the scam, the sham of society, and yet we're still trying to navigate consensus reality. But now we're dealing with, consensus unreality online, and people are so immersed in Facebook and Twitter arguments and all of these things where everyone can communicate everything out in the open, and yet are they saying great blessings and prayers and encouragement words or, you know, Elon Musk purchases Twitter, and then some of the users are complaining that, well, you know, I go to Twitter, and I post things, and there's hate mobs everywhere. So now you're encouraging us to post. We're paying for our blue check mark now. This is a good publishing platform. We're getting some customer service here. But yet, I'll post what's on my mind, but it it differs from the consensus culture on this website.
So I get some pushback, and I might be the prophet of doom here. I might be seeing things that other people don't see, but it doesn't rise to the top because it's not a popular opinion. So now if all of our culture seems to have merged into this, we don't like discomfort, so we're gonna call out all the discomfort. We're gonna call out all the people who are saying uncomfortable truths. We might get into a cancel culture situation thing. We don't wanna hear anymore about, pizza and Balenciaga and trafficking and all these uncomfortable topics because we think we already know about them, yet nothing's been done about them. So now, again, we're at the topic of evil, and I wanna ask the question about possession and how maybe the movie with, what's her name? She spins her head around 360, and she The Exorcist. Linda Blair. Correct. So The Exorcist shows up in our American culture. People go to the movies. People are just fainting, and they're they're terrified of this thing. And we have this buildup of kind of this Christian, Catholic, Protestant culture, and now that's been dismantled. We have all these people who are taking their beliefs apart. They're dismantling them. They're deconditioning, deconverting, these types of things. Deconstructing, I think, is the word a lot of people are using. And now if we've deconstructed the church and that support system, and we're saying there's still evil in the world, but the church itself, even in the last, you know, March 2020 well, we have Easter. Right? Everybody celebrates Easter and Christmas, and yet the churches, those doors were closed.
So you'd have to stay at home and attend a Zoom meeting church, and you could watch your church, but then the church is just like a rock concert anyway. So there really isn't the fellowship aspect. But the question I wanna really focus on now is this idea of possession in terms of is it a demonic entity? Are there voices? What is schizophrenia? Or is it just, I'm gonna pass this to Balderson. Is this just a urinary tract infection?
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Or parasites.
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Yeah. Something which Yeah. I say It it it is actually, it is fairly amazing because, it's something I just studied in urinary tract infections. Well, a urinary infection where you end up having you can't release all your urine and you end up getting a urine poisoning. And the symptoms of that include violent screaming for hours on end foaming at the mouth. Wow. So many of the same symptoms that you see with possession and the person just can't control themselves. And it's literally because they've just got toxic urine that is never being released from their body.
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Crazy. Yeah. Really wild. Right? And that's something that still occurs.
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This is something that still occurs, especially for people that, end up where they have to have a catheter. So these at home catheters, you'd be shocked how very shoddy these medical companies are that end up producing these things. Oh, yeah. And they go out of business fairly quickly. And these things are very expensive, so people will try and get a batch of them. And then a lot of times that company won't produce them anymore, things like that. Well, they have different lengths, and this catheter has to be inserted so far in order to fully release the bladder. And if it doesn't hit that mark and doesn't do it, then a a reservoir basically of old urine sits inside your body and poisons and poisons you until you end up having these effects, and it's it's absolutely fascinating.
So one wonders then in a time, when urinary tract infections were more were more common just because of, less cleanly conditions, How much more common was this actual disease that is very rare now and mostly only in people with catheters?
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Mhmm.
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Interesting. Well, and it's, you know, I Chris jokes because I I distill everything down to parasites. I think parasites are the the thing that are basically influencing and affecting, the human race and and really, you know, I think that that's one of the things that motivates people to eat, bad food and eat a lot of sugar and eat things that are maybe, not necessarily high frequency foods or high energy foods. And I wonder if, you know, you're talking about infection. I wonder if there could potentially be a, parasitic element to that infection.
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What influences parasites?
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A 100%, especially, like, you even take something so simple as the archaeus of water, where imagine that's that that urine is sitting in a perfect warm environment. And as as it's given time, a biome is gonna develop. That's just I mean, even you catch rainwater, you put it in in a dark warm place, and you start looking at it under a microscope. It'll start out with small creatures and then bigger meter looking creatures will come eat them smaller creatures and the bigger bigger ones will come eat them once. I mean, it a whole thing will develop. You know that that's happening inside of your year, especially if it's sitting there stagnant.
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Yeah. So someone asked how do you, heal that, Benjamin? What what is the what is the road
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Off the top of my head for, most people, not people that are having this catheter issue issue. But for most people, it's gonna be a a a very severe hydration. And with hydration, I specifically mean hydrogen because your war your body when it takes water, it it needs to kind of break that down. So you need to get that hydration level up. And then I would say like a cranberry. Cranberry extract is obviously gonna be something to try and get your bladder to release, and probably a mild antibiotic. Not not a medical antibiotic like a pill, but there are antibiotics, like oregano oil. That one's a bomb. That one's, like, worst case scenario.
There's much milder things to use in an antibiotic situation. Like elderberry is technically it's killing things. It's an antibiotic. So I would take my probably a mild antibiotic with the cranberry also to try and any life that has developed to try and get that out of there.
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Interesting. Yeah. I think, again, it all goes back to the, you know, this the synergy of sexual energy and, you know, having blockages in different parts of your body. And, you know, that's one thing that after you have any kind of sexual contact, it's really important to empty your bladder completely. And I think that, you know, we really have to think of every aspect of our humanity and really be thoughtful about these things and not just kind of be on autopilot. And and I feel like that's one of the the things that I try to do. You know, you mentioned before about, seeing people and, you know, praying over them or sending them good intentions and and good energy. When I go I have gone, and it's probably one of my worst places on the planet, is going to Las Vegas. I've been to Las Vegas before.
And you go into these situations where
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Octoberfest 2023
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Vegas. Spiders are gonna change Vegas forever this October
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Paris 23. Paris Hotel. There's a a great buffet there, And, you know, you watch the the people, the the blue haired land whales walking through and getting, you know, giant crab legs and these huge mountains of food. And it's really easy to go into this place of judgment, of judging people and saying, oh my god. These people, humanity, we're all fucked. You know, this is this is the representation of humans. We're all fucked. You know? But what I try to do when I go into these spaces where I see people that, you know, maybe have questionable intent or questionable energy is just instead of getting down to that level of that frequency of judging them is seeing them as another expression of my humanity and trying to send them some kind of loving vibe because I think there's enough negativity that we have flowing in the world that, again, if you look at that as a parasitic energy, you're just feeding that. It's another fear porn. It's another negativity porn. And it that's so it's so base and it's so easy to go there that I think if we can just stop that, be the person that that goes, no. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not going to buy into that. And I think if we're all doing that, we can raise our awareness collectively.
We can help those people without making them victims.
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Yeah. Divide and conquer works on us too. We have to think that that's the other side, although I I did refuse to acknowledge sides, but, that is, you know, sort of categorizing us as something in particular. But I think it's very easy for us, whatever that means, to do the same thing. Like, you, vaxxers, you, you, so on and so forth. Yeah. It's really The other. It's really easy to other
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to fall into the the other. It's a want a want for separation, we call it.
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Yeah. It's all in fighting. To me, it's all in fighting. It all falls under that category.
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Yeah. I think I I because I grew up as being an other, kind of always on the outside, I am able I have this capacity to be able to kind of see beyond that and witness that in myself and try to be more of a connector because I think that's what we're truly here to do. It's not to feel like we're better than someone else. You know, again, I look at people who have sexual paraphilias. You know, there's a a segment of the population that, you know, I feel like we need to cull the herd. Anyone who hurts a kid, you wanna fuck a kid, you get a bullet in the brain as far as I'm concerned.
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But Yeah. A lot of people feel that way. It's not uncommon. And maybe some people are more shy. That. Yeah. I'm on this team.
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But but people there there are people who are truly damaged and hurt who go out and hurt other adults. You know, I'm not saying I give those people a pass, but I am more forgiving of someone who hurts someone that is an equal, that is equal shot, equal energy. But someone who hurts a kid, that that is a no go line for me. So I just wanna say that that I'm not sitting back and judging people who have schizophrenia or mental health issues or or feel isolated or alone or blue haired whales. What whatever. Okay. You you be you. But if you take that energy and you go and you abuse a child or someone who is a a vulnerable, someone who can be classified as a vulnerable population, then we need to deal with that. And the way to deal with that is corporal. It's it's you know? No.
We need to bring back hanging public hangings, chopping people's heads off.
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You know? Wow. Really? Let's get real.
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I mean, let's let's go there. Didn't you have a problem with white rice before? Martini's and.
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I I think where I think where it really become the problem is that people don't have the spirituality to understand, like so one of the things that heathens really, bought that was if your child was born deformed, we would that they would kill it. And it's it wasn't out of a cruelty. It it was honestly out of decency. It was we live in a hard world. This child is gonna live a horrible life for a very short duration, and this child is an ancestor of mine. This is somebody I already love. Why would I want this person to go through that? So if we go ahead and just x this out quick, they'll come back. Next time, it'll be a better body. It'll be much better next time. So the same concept, when you look at some of these people that are having, like, a lot of different mental unwellnesses and whatnot. It's not not having them around isn't necessarily the meanest thing. It's like, then I'll come back next time. You'll do better. It'll be alright.
[02:03:55] Unknown:
Exactly. Just not this time. For sure. Well and I think it's a karmic agreement. You know, I, you know, I have thought about this very deeply, like, okay, well, what, what is the, what what are we doing by putting someone who hurts a child in jail? We're just giving them a place to hone those skills. What are we doing by trying to rehabilitate sociopaths? We're just basically signing off to allow them to go and hurt other people. So the karmic agreement is that if I see someone injuring a child, it is my duty, it is my responsibility
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to stop that. It's not, well, you know, they you just gotta feel sorry for that person. No. It's one thing to not involve yourself in people's conflicts when they're adults, but it's a very different thing when it's a vulnerable person, especially a child involved. You know? Mhmm. And I would say that all of this conversation to me is points at the idea that sometime in the reasonably recent, history of humanity, something switched, and we started to be aware of and focused on this more empathic, more concerned, more emotional well-being of, the vulnerable people. Because we all know that not very long ago there was a time not very long ago where the policy was to not give children too much food because they may not live anyway and to call them little sinners and to think of them with less regard and kindness and care. So somewhere along the line, you know, in the last 500 years, maybe more, maybe less, we are as a as a as humanity, as a group, I would say, our concern for the well-being of our progeny has increased.
And so now to me, to accept and acknowledge that and move it into a more specific fear of action is not a bad thing. You know? And we may not have to, go out in band this week and start paving in head, but we can agree that we feel like that is a strong and reasonable intention of our heart that we're tired of the disrespect towards vulnerable people, especially children. We've had enough. We don't wanna fucking see it anymore. We don't wanna look at them as an opportunity. We wanna look at them as what we can cultivate into being what's better than what we are while we're here. You know? I think so much of what we're talking about
[02:06:24] Unknown:
has to do with institutional mental illness. And what has happened is that the government stepped in and said, well, we need to stop, supporting institutions. They're barbaric. These people are treated poorly. You know, let's just open the doors to these mental health institutions and set these people out into the world and the communities will figure it out. So the chasm became you had people locked away, you let them out on the street, and then there's a huge mental illness population that becomes homeless. So this is a very vulnerable population that is now on the streets because they have nowhere to go, and they can't maintain a job. They can't live in a what we consider normal society because they don't have the skills or the capacity to do that. Now these aren't the people who that are harming kids.
These aren't the violent criminals. These aren't the people who are fucking people over. It's the government who's coming in and taking people's children away and putting them in CPS and putting them in foster homes where they become vulnerable population, then then they get raped by, you know, fathers or mothers or or whoever is supposed to be responsible for them. So there's a system that is reinforcing and entrenching the this type of ritual abuse against children because it's easier to fuck over a kid and then ignore this whole segment of the population of adults that need help than it is to say, we're gonna leave kids alone and let mothers and fathers raise their children and support them in whatever way we possibly can and not indoctrinate them in the school systems and brainwash them in the school systems. Let parents teach their kids in whatever manner they see fit and support, you know, homeschooling if that's what they want, not vaccine if that's what they want. But what's happened is that the predators in the system have gone, oh, well, there's a way we can fuck kids over and we can fuck adults over and we can fuck the food and we can fuck the water and lower the frequency of the population while they they raise their frequency financially and they raise the resources that they have access to. And meanwhile, just kind of giving us the dregs and whatever crumbs that we have to live and to deal with. So I think that's what we have to, destroy is the system that is bolstering and supporting this kind of ritual abuse.
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It is a brave new world we're living in, and we got time travelers looking like Abraham Lincoln wondering if maybe he should have, swayed a little bit on the side of freeing the slaves. That's my dad.
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Is that did you have the clock as a pro wrestler back to Omar Atlas era? No. No. Some people thought Abraham Lincoln was a black man too. There's a a great conspiracy, theory to dive into if you've never seen it. The idea that, Lincoln was actually black is, there's there's some compelling evidence of him redundantly being called swarthy and darker. And so I like it. But, I mean, I said that because, at one point, we we said Omar Negro Atlas. I don't remember what the this is one of the names I wrote down in the Negro was his his wrestling name when he first came to the United States from Venezuela because he was dark skinned, so they called him Omar Negro. Omar Negro. It makes you wanna I've always dreamed of, having the job of the guy at UFC or boxing matches that, you know It's naming introduce you. Omar.
[02:10:26] Unknown:
I tell I tell Chris all the time. You do realize you're in a relationship with a Negro.
[02:10:32] Unknown:
Right. Wow. It's a it's a brave New Year world. And if Sean wants to be the emcee, it probably is like, let's get ready to rumble if that's okay with you all tonight. Right.
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If it's mutually consensual,
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doing that. Can vote your inner child and find out if it's okay if we might maybe possibly rumble.
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Well, I think we need to
[02:11:00] Unknown:
Just let the dogs out. Who let the dogs out? Close the hands up. We let the dogs out. Thank you guys so much. Really appreciate you guys coming in. Welcome back to you. You guys. What a joy this was. Yes. What a plan. You don't have to always come as the featured guest either. So if you, you know, if you're up late and you want to just you see that we're on and you wanna link, you can always send me a text message or or just stay in touch with any of us, and we're glad to have you jump in. And, of course, you don't have to come together. 1 or the other or both is our pleasure to host. So For sure. We send you many, many blessings, and thank you all. You are all doing amazing work. Thank you so much for having us. This has been such an honor and a pleasure. For sure. Great meeting. You so much for your time. Awesome. You guys were great. Great. Spicy subjects. And if you Google The Melt Podcast, you'll find these guys. I'm sure there's a website. It's probably dot.net. You guys wanna promote right before you jump off. Now is a great time if there's something you're doing just
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Benjamin, we would love to have you on the show to talk about, spirogenics. Spirogenics. Spirogenics. Spirogenics. Spirogenics. Spirogenics. Spirogenics. Spirogenics. Spirogenics. Spirogenics. Spirogenics.
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Spirogenics. Spirogenics.
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That's not yeah.
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Spirogenics make me think Spirogenics does sound cool. I wish I knew how to talk about that. Very good. Yeah. Nope. Absolutely. Okay. Meltpugkat.net.
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Connected on Instagram? Just shoot me an Instagram message.
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Yes. I am. I am.
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You on there.
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Yes. I follow you on Instagram. Yeah. Me too. And I am, oh my god, buffy, on Instagram. So it was a pleasure. Thank you, everyone, that was on the, chat. It was riveting to read all of your comments,
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and, we love you guys. Thank you again for having us. Yeah. Thank you so much. We feel very welcome here, and, we will definitely return for sure.
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Awesome. Because we've made you feel too welcome, we do have a very unwelcoming intermission video to even things out. Oh, cool.
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What
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what are your in Instagrams again?
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Mine is, oh my god, Buffy. Okay. And it's actually spelled out, oh my god, or something like that? Is it spelled
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out? Ohmygodbuffy
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is my Instagram handle. Great.
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And I believe mine is the I believe I've gotta check. The_melt_podcast. Awesome. Instagram. Yes.
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So yes. We are hashtag weaving spiders welcome.
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Yes. Yes. Love it. Thank you for letting us in your web. Yes. Our pleasure, guys. We'll talk again. Yes. For sure. Great to have you. Yeah. We'll be in touch. Have a great night, you guys. Tory. Yeah. You too. You
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This next, intermission video will be harsh. It will be something we needed to get through together, and then we can trauma bond
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in a minute. Scare me.
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Oh, it'll be frightening. I agree. Flashing imagery. Oh, it'll be terrible. You guys will get through it, I I hope. Okay. Are we ready for this? Adjust your volume accordingly. It might be loud when it comes in. Here we go. Alright. It's gravy time.
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Alan might be lying. It might be fine, you guys.
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I'm not lying. It's fine, guys.
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The only surprise is telling you something you guys did. You feel it must be for a while. Yeah. I have been told I got eyes in my head. Didn't even see you guys coming. You know? I just you must be spooks. Tell me what? What do we know? What do we know? If I know what we know, then I could tell you what we know and if someone else knows. Okay? I mean, it's it's being specific.
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Oh, who's still with us?
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Hello.
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Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Excuse me. If you've made it this far, we have to warn you. It gets worse from here. It's gonna get a whole lot worse before it could ever get better. Better. Bold gravy.
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Bold gravy.
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There's our warning. Some gravy can cause mouth diarrhea.
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And epilepsy.
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Yes. And epilepsy
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and confusion. Alan Marcus, you guys Laughter.
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Oh, you cute, homie.
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We turned in that assignment pretty quick, didn't we? I think we started working on it Wednesday night. Now it's Saturday.
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Oh, that was amazing. That was amazing. You had me you I almost turned my camera on so you could see how much you were killing me.
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And that was the passion of the Christ you could see at the end where he pulls out the barb from his side after they had injected such bodily harm to Mad Max.
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Yeah. I and and I don't understand how that movie is not kind of the correct but conspiracy theory. How that's not more commonly talked about. It's hilarious. It's it's very hilarious because then, like, anybody that's ever watched conspiracy theory when he's doing performing MK Ultra on Mel Gibson, they call it gravy. And he's forcing the gravy down down his throat, and they play that cartoon in the background where, the old Looney Tunes cartoon where you'd have the 55 gallon drum of gravy, and he'd be pouring it in a funnel and forcing it down the dude's mouth. And, Waterboarding with truth.
Conspiracy. Yeah. Waterboarding with gravy. Yeah. Interesting to see, you know, the movie was literally named conspiracy theory, and then to see that passed around the conspiracy community is just super interesting.
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And we'd forgotten that the term gravy could be misconstrued to mean something as, not desirable or harmful to listeners with sort of the word salad, vomit, diarrhea, kinda sounds good. We gotta fill some time. We're content producers, so we're just gonna talk and talk and talk and talk because we've gotten addicted to it, and it's all we know how to do. Unless we be, pointing the finger, we may have fallen into that ourselves a little bit. So we need to make it right right now. And send no more. You're as well. Thank you. Thank you.
Jim, do you have a copy on DVD of conspiracy theory?
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I had a copy on DVD, and I let, let Sean borrow it. Like, you gotta see this. This is my favorite movie ever. And so, like, we I was at a bar and I gave it to Sean. I was like, you gotta check this out. And he's like, okay. And he had it, like, in his hand for a couple of minutes. And then the the bartender came in, and she was like somebody's like, happy birthday. And she's like, oh, yeah. Thank you. And Sean was like, it's your birthday? She said, yeah. And he said, here you go. Happy birthday. And he, like, hands her my DVD copy of conspiracy theory. And I was like, what did you just do? He's like, oh, it's her birthday. And I was like, I wanted you to watch that.
Sean.
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So, Damn your generosity.
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Damn your generosity.
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And so I still don't even know if Sean's seen it. That's the, that's the question of Have you seen it have you have you seen it, Sean? Have you seen it, Sean? Sean? Sean, where are you? Have you seen it, Sean? Have you seen it, Sean? Yes. Beat Alja.
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Alja. Sorry. You are b as requested.
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I believe that, he was named after the Sean, Sean Connery. Was he really? At least the the spelling of his name is based on Sean Connery.
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Sean Connery. Sean Connery.
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Stand in a for yourself, suck.
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He was named after Zartop Zarlach? What's his name? What's the Zardoz. Zardoz. Zardoz. Zardoz. Oh.
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That was a good outfit. It wasn't good. I mean, it's great outfit. The cod piece? Like, it's not the cod piece that Sting's wearing from fucking Dune, but it's close. Dang. And Dune. It's close. Red Speedo.
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Babe Watch. Wow. Yeah. Did David Hasselhoff ever wear one of those Speedos? Oh, you know he did. On the beach. Did. In the in the in the television show? I don't I don't remember noticing.
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Jason Lindgren sent me this video of David Hasselhoff from some, like it wasn't even a b movie. This was like a a l movie or something. Like, they slapped on all the and this shit is hilarious. He might wear it in that. Gotta love the hog. Like, anybody that enjoyed Mystery Science Theater 3 1,000, this is like somebody that enjoyed that made a movie for it. Like, we are gonna make this movie so cheesy. It's made just to be on Mystery Science Theater 3,000.
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Did we have any other guests? Any other guests in our Zoom waiting rooms?
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Not at the moment. We might have some more visitors tonight. We might have some more visitors.
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Now is the time to She's probably gonna stop in and spite her.
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What?
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My wife is making something for Jamie.
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Yes. Wife is making something for Jamie.
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See, that's why you get that loving mother type. They do good things for you. Make life nice.
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That is a awesome thing.
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A silicone doll will never make you macaroni and cheese. No. We'll never cook you chicken tenders. No,
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But it might make you feel like you're having
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sex with them on the kitchen floor and the dishwasher floods, they short out, and then you gotta go on a whole fucking mission with Melanie Griffith.
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You know? And they Yeah. The dishwasher shorts out. You won't be able to clean them. Did those sandwiches consent to the fingering, Gordy?
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The the fingering sandwiches? Yes.
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It's it's bad enough. We put tooth sticks in sometimes.
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It's finger it's Right.
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We need a sandwich using toothpicks. That's such a phallic symbol of the patriarchy, and there's a lot of waitresses wrapped to serve those sandwiches. And every time they walk down with that tray and people pull off an hors d'oeuvre with that that phallic toothpick. And it's wood, so that reminds everybody of woodies and and boners and stuff. So, again, it's just everywhere, all this sex stuff. It real hard to clean your teeth with donuts.
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So I'm not sure what shape we're gonna replace it with. I just find it hard to clean my teeth with donuts.
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Cheerio. Carry on then. Cheerio.
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So I was trying to find the quote the exact quote, but I can't come up with it fast enough. But one of my favorite quotes of a movie is, from What We Do in the Shadows. I'm trying to remember it. But they're talking about why they like why the vampires like virgins. And he says, well, just imagine if you were having a sub sandwich. You'd just like it if somebody hadn't fucked it before you eat it.
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They're not. Right?
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I think that applies to quiz. No substitute. I mean, on the nose.
[02:30:23] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I wanna clarify on the, conspiracy theory DVD story. Yes.
[02:30:33] Unknown:
That. Yes.
[02:30:35] Unknown:
Now Do you remember the whole policy I learned from another ginger like me way back in the days of high school that went like this as far as imbibing alcohol, taking alcoholic beverages into your body. The rule goes like this. Unless you're crawling up the street, throwing up, and pissing yourself, you're not drunk. You're just buzzing real hard. So in my defense, I wanna say that I was buzzing real hard. It was not for just a few minutes, as I heard Jim describe, that I had been carrying the DVD inside the fold of my jacket where it would fit against the edge of my body. It wouldn't fit in my pocket, so I had it kind of carefully balanced inside the fold of my jacket. And, we had been buying, drinks, and I do believe Jim had even purchased me, extra beers.
And, yes, I do apologize for having given away your copy of conspiracy theory to the bartender, Karen, I think is her name. And I will I will keep it in my mind that it should be replaced since I forgot until now. But we were buzzing pretty hard at that point. Thank you. Almost blue right now. It looks good that I might have actually felt for your first time. 4 k Steelcase. Lower than it should have been. So sorry it took me so long, but I had to make myself a sandwich because I'm starving. Did you watch it? I didn't watch it? Did you fuck the sandwich before you did? I didn't watch it that night because, yeah, the night you gave it to me to hold The personal question, Gordy.
Gave it away over the same night.
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But he could do it whatever whatever he wants with his own sandwich.
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Well, at least you've seen it. Only. Some people
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no. He was gravy.
[02:32:23] Unknown:
Many drops of mayonnaise on that man sandwich.
[02:32:29] Unknown:
Did you watch it? I would rather the mayonnaise on it. It's just dots of mustard. Did you eventually watch it? Yeah. I've seen it. Oh, great.
[02:32:40] Unknown:
It it was an excellent movie.
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It was a great one. It's one of my favorites, Let's say classic. It's classic.
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Is it Julia Roberts running faster on the treadmill playing with horseshoes?
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That's right.
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So what was the theory
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of the movie? Enemy of the state.
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Like, he had been being MK Ultra ed and then released out into the public, and he could remember it. And so, like, he was he was totally into it, and then they would keep an eye on him. And and he basically, he they were almost using him as, like, a a bait. So anybody that had, open enough mind to, listen to him, he they were really most interested in who we talked to. Was he a podcaster? And then, right? Podcasting was not a thing. It was, AOL time. This is what, like, mid nineties. Sure. So maybe it's a AOL people who were only watching other people pee, You know, like, all the hidden pee cameras and stuff and cat videos. That was all that was on the Internet at the time. So no.
But, then, there was also a whole thing where catcher in the rye. He, like, had to buy every copy of it, and there was coding in catcher in the rye and everything, and everything he said was, like, true. My favorite parts when they finally bust in and he's got, like, this crazy mouse trap set up where everything just goes down. Like, his whole apartment, like, just starts blocking them off so they can't get to them, and that that was cool as shit.
[02:34:29] Unknown:
Yeah. I've been setting my house up like that for a while. Doing some
[02:34:32] Unknown:
yeah. I would think about it, but see then, like, I would one night set it off and then I myself. And so then I'm like, no. No. Hail Patriots.
[02:34:41] Unknown:
Hail and well met Patriots.
[02:34:43] Unknown:
Hail Patriots.
[02:34:46] Unknown:
Yeah. Yep. How's the weather?
[02:34:52] Unknown:
I think it's raining outside. Not raining crazy, though. So that inject so that injection, that needle, was that the gravy then? Was the was the gravy in that visual metaphor? Metaphor? Was it the actual injection of an hallucinogen of some kind, or was it combined with the the waterboarding, reverse upside down baptism forced? And then there's the aspect of him in the wheelchair. So he's a bit handicapped. He can't really walk, and they they tape his eyeballs shut, so he's forced to witness all this stuff. Open. Open. They they tape him Eyes wide eyes wide shut.
[02:35:38] Unknown:
Open. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. I I would I would I would say that what that liquid is is to put your brain into an alpha state. So you're not necessarily hallucinating, but you're in an alpha state making you particularly susceptible to implantation is what I would say that that, you know, was for him. And then also, some sort of a truth serum cocktail probably.
[02:36:08] Unknown:
And he just thought there were some gentlemen from NASA.
[02:36:13] Unknown:
That's what you know what? You know, it it was Picard, captain Picard. He should've fucking known.
[02:36:22] Unknown:
The Star Trek psyop continues as people are ready to enlist in starfleet. What is it? Space command? What is what did, Trump form for our new military members? Space force. Space Force. Well, that sounds even more like a video game to me.
[02:36:42] Unknown:
Yeah. Totally an eighties name right there.
[02:36:49] Unknown:
Space Force.
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Will you be forced to go to space?
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Forced to go to space in a sure will? Pictures of them and they're cool. They're cool uniforms. Let everybody know how cool they are.
[02:37:03] Unknown:
Chef Bezos and his brother in blue going to a high altitude with Oliver Damon. And what was her name? Wally Funk. That was a fun episode of Weaving Spire's Welcome. If anyone can remember that episode, we have the youngest man and the oldest woman with the Bezos brothers flying to space. That's a headline, certainly. The truth of the matter, did they actually go all the way? I mean, Wally Funk and this 18 year old blue blonde head blue eyed boy, did they do it in space together in front of the Bezos brothers?
[02:37:46] Unknown:
Like a, like, kind of bell worship.
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Mhmm.
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Mother goddess and her son and a little castration.
[02:38:03] Unknown:
Awesome. It's a it's a strange world we live in indeed.
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Do you think they did it in space?
[02:38:14] Unknown:
Well, how are we defining space? Like, meet like, meet space in the flesh, or do you think they went up there and used their cell phones to send each other, you know, messages back and forth about what they were doing to each other in their imagination. Do they actually consummate it? It's possible. Base. Well, high up in the sky,
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maybe. Yeah. That's a good question.
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8 Mile High Club.
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Welcome. Who is this voice we hear?
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It's it's a poltergeist.
[02:38:52] Unknown:
Sounds a lot like the Andy Kron avatar to me.
[02:38:55] Unknown:
Well, say they're coming quick or they're here.
[02:38:59] Unknown:
They're here.
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They're here.
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Way creepier when when Marcus Allen did it.
[02:39:14] Unknown:
I got a I'm not feeling too good. I have a cold, so I was like, not really camera.
[02:39:21] Unknown:
I'm kinda camera shy today. But Okay. Under under the weather and over the moon? Yes. We we we didn't have any clips, I think, yesterday on Cinco de Cinco de Mayo.
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Yeah.
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Mhmm. Hay fever, pollen in the air. What could it be?
[02:39:43] Unknown:
Never know. That's definitely part of it. There is and especially in California because it's been so wet, we have a whole lot more. Like, usually, it's almost or since I've lived here anyways, it's like a cutoff. It starts raining. It does a little bit of spring stuff, and then it's done. And now this year, it's it's all over the damn place. There there's so much, fungus and Sure. Mold and all in all happening at once?
[02:40:11] Unknown:
After all the snow melted in my backyard, there was a layer covering the entire lawn where the grass had been of this strange fiber like, fungus like growth under the snow, and it took a few days of direct sunshine to kinda clear all that up. I don't know what it was. Cellium.
[02:40:32] Unknown:
Yeah. It's my psyllium. What what you wanna do is go collect that Mhmm. Some of that and put it in a bucket with a, like, a fish bubbler and some sea salt and a big couple baked potatoes, and that'll make a real nice biome. And then you tuck that onto your compost pile, and it gets that compost pile to break down quick. So that was that was eating up the old organic material that was underneath the so it was warm enough out. Your ground layer was warm enough that the the it was able to become alive and eat up that organic material. It was it was kinda shiny, though. So I was just gonna go with the idea that it was most likely aluminum barium and
[02:41:14] Unknown:
whatever else was in those, chemtrails up in the sky that were in the south well, no. I mean,
[02:41:20] Unknown:
hear me out. I mean, it's I know it's a good idea. I I knew it. It's got a very it almost looks like, as crystallized asbestos. Yes. It almost looks like asbestos. Real pretty. Mhmm. Very fiber looking. Almost pearlescent and chewy. Okay.
[02:41:37] Unknown:
Yeah. It was sugar. My selenium.
[02:41:39] Unknown:
Yeah. You wanna keep that, and that's real good to put in your compost. If you're starting to do permaculture, that's gonna be your best thing to create a soil biome, because that's the native, mycelium. And so what you're putting in there is something that's already used to these conditions, and you're just gonna you're just gonna keep amping that up until your until the stomach of your soil your soil is the plant's stomach is just chewing through everything and breaking it down into the minerals that the plant can uptake. And so that's a vital part of permaculture.
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I thought it was gonna cause Alzheimer's.
[02:42:26] Unknown:
It might do that. Okay.
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I was very careful with it.
[02:42:32] Unknown:
We had a layer of Only a sand or, like, pink snow here, the last snow that we had, which is a couple weeks ago. And snow. It was really weird. I don't know if it was, like, sand got in the clouds from somewhere else or if it was something chemical they were spraying. Or
[02:42:59] Unknown:
Very interesting. Indeed. Sharing a link to a few friends here. Is Zoom room open?
[02:43:19] Unknown:
The Zoom room is open.
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Check Telegram if you've asked me for 1.
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Sorry. I'm eating. So
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I'm kind of yeah. Eating.
[02:43:39] Unknown:
Eating is good. I got some, soft white goat cheese with honey in it, and some, gluten free pretzels.
[02:43:55] Unknown:
Reese's Reese's Pieces here.
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Oh.
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I have some sparkling peach juice.
[02:44:06] Unknown:
Sounds good. I'm eating the last of my spicy chips, and then I have 3, cookies.
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Nice.
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What are you guys at home eating? Threw it in the chat.
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Yeah. Let us know what is in your engraving tonight. You can just take your food, put it in a blender, and then sip it all through a straw. It makes it easier to consume
[02:44:35] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. If you're not eating, then go get some food and eat during the second part of the broadcast. This is an order from one of the lead spiders, F. B.
[02:44:44] Unknown:
Alger. Right. It's difficult to watch the visual livestreams when you have a fork in your hand, So I try to stick to audio only, listening, audiobooks and podcasts when I'm eating dinner, and that's a good time to consume content, I think. But the visual stuff, that's a little hard because I'm having to look at my my plate unless I put it all in a blender and just kinda blend it all together, and then I can sip it through a sippy straw.
[02:45:10] Unknown:
We've got dandelions, a bomb pop, bread and honey, leafs for gut biome, pineapple, cheese, burrito, and we'll make a tres leche cake. Wow. Emilio man is taking it to the next level. Having a burrito and gonna make a cake. Woah. Dang. Yeah. We we can celebrate some good avocado chips and ginger ale. They're blowing it up, folks. People are eating roast duck leg with fried cabbage, onions, carrots,
[02:45:37] Unknown:
onions. Some of these are wish list or grocery list. Gonna write some of these an acorn squash. Rebecca Broom wins so far for, like, what sounds like the most gourmet and elaborate meal. So we have some mycelium here. Is that edible, or is that an edible?
[02:45:53] Unknown:
I I wouldn't necessarily eat it, but I'm sure it's fine. But all that I did was go and, where we have all the downed trees, this really nicely starts developing. And you see this kind of shiny silver? Yeah. Mhmm. So that's where it's, that's where the mycelium's starting to develop. And I just go and take a like, when I wanna go do it, I just go rip apart tree, and there's usually a nice right now, there isn't much because it's been real cold here. But in, like, 2 weeks, the insides, they'll just be covered in it. You just take a nice chunk of that, throw it in there with your, baked old baked potato and some, you got you wanna use sea salt. You don't wanna use your iodized salt. You wanna use sea salt to do it, and then a fish bubbler, and you give that you give that a few days, and you'll start seeing where all of a sudden you'll get real foamy. And that foam is life coming into play.
So you betcha.
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Yeah. This will make the tomatoes taste like tomatoes.
[02:46:58] Unknown:
This is how we It'll make it so that way your, soil the nutrients in your soil become available for the plant. That's what it's doing.
[02:47:10] Unknown:
Because that's why I stopped going to Subway because every time I'd order a tomato sandwich, the tomatoes just taste under the water. Your sandwich? That is well, first of all, it was the robot ordering thing. I get in the drive thru and I have to roll down the window and start touching the screen. I'm like, who else has touched the screen? And then it orders extra beverages and bags of chips and things. And by the time, I'm like, just cancel the entire order. I wanna drive away. I'm still hungry. And then my tomato just tastes like water. Just tastes like bad public water.
[02:47:42] Unknown:
There's no tomato flavor to it. It says, yeah, the tomato has been develled before it grew.
[02:47:50] Unknown:
Right. Right. Welcome, birds. We have a bird
[02:47:55] Unknown:
Welcome. Oh, man. Thank you, everyone. It's a true honor to be here. I'm just trying to I'm just vibing with everyone right now, and, I love when I'm here. And it's it's 11111 where I am at this very moment and, much gratitude to everyone. I it's a honor to be with these legends. And, Yeah, man. Keep going. I'll chime in, and I'll try to stay out of the way, man. You guys are awesome. Thank you.
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Hell. Hell.
[02:48:24] Unknown:
Get in the way as much as you want. There's plenty of room.
[02:48:29] Unknown:
This is this is the after party. We're all just still trying to recover from the first two hours. Yeah. This is we're we're very melted. Brain melting, certainly. Right. And we didn't warn people before the stream started that. It was probably one that you'd wanna have headphones on, kind of an 18 plus sort of thing. It was more, spicy and racy than the episode 69 we did together.
[02:48:55] Unknown:
Mhmm. Dude, you know, you mentioned Subway, and it's like, is everything made of cardboard in a place like that? I mean, that is any of any molecule of anything in that establishment based on any real. I mean, you know what I mean? You don't even know what the meat is. It's just who knows? Like, roach shavings and and just cedar.
[02:49:23] Unknown:
Don't hurt it. They can't even call the the bread. They can't even call the bread bread because it's got so much sugar in it. It legally Mhmm. Is considered a cake.
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It's What do you do mom nowadays.
[02:49:36] Unknown:
I mean, gosh. Is that true, Wim? I didn't know that. Yes. It is true. And didn't they test their
[02:49:41] Unknown:
salmon sandwich or some fish sandwich, and there was no fish in it whatsoever? Yeah. I remember hearing that. Yeah.
[02:49:48] Unknown:
They do add a lot of soy to Tuna? Canned tuna. So they'll label it as tuna as it is tuna flavored, tuna water, but a lot of the meaty substance in some of those cans of packages does tend to be kind of more of a tofu. Oh. And I I remember I had cracked open a can of tuna, you know, in the nineties, and there was a, like, a bone or really hard piece that should have not, been in the can. And it really turned me off to tuna for a long time, but now tasting the cheap tuna that is soy product, it it's more tofu. They should label it tofu and not tuna.
[02:50:31] Unknown:
So they can make a thing. They can make these artificial here's a fish. Oh, guess what? It's not a but they'll make it look like a fish. But they can do that with anything. Lettuce, tomatoes, bread. It's like Mhmm. This very strange tech you know, we're going to this weird and getting farther disconnected from obvious the soil. Like, I heard Balderson talking about the soil and just things like the microbes and all that. They go, you don't need any of that. We're gonna go to some weird sci fi movie dystopian thing that we've all been prepped over the decades with. Like, I'm sorry. I see that anything artificial and I'm gonna just state some obvious stuff. Mhmm. Anything and everything that is artificial will fail.
Now it can fail gracefully, or it can fail not so gracefully. But anything that is artificial, truth that's not truth in nature will fail. It's just you know? So this fakery and this weird, like, thing they're trying to create, it doesn't vibe with me, and I it will fail. But I find a, like, a parallel society coming through. I see the light beings, and, you know, the tribes uniting and the frequency is attracting and the law of attraction, like attracts like. I see a totally powerful group of a second different group than that than that weird 15 minute city type stuff where you don't own anything and all that. We you know?
It includes the food. That's how I got that's how I got here, obviously. So I see a whole parallel society, and I feel like it interesting times, man. It's it's truly wild. So I I recommend everyone learn those skills. I always say, like well, I started recently saying openly, like, be dangerous. You know? What's that what does that mean? Does that mean being walking around with a bunch of knives? No. That means being totally independent, standing up for your own, being powerful, and any any of get in the way of anyone that's trying to harm the herd. You're a you're a protector of the herd, and that's a dangerous being.
So so equip yourself with growing your own food. Equip yourself with this knowledge. Equip yourself with all the things, and you go, I don't need anything from you. Go away. You know, that is a very powerful being. That's a dangerous being to Self sufficiency all the way. Yeah. Yeah. To to the matrix, to those that have these, ideas that are not in your best interest, you're dangerous to them. You're you're a hero to others. You're dangerous to them. And guess what? So what?
[02:53:19] Unknown:
Some days, it feels like the last 3 years were an exercise in elevating the absurd so that by 2023, people are going to realize that there are 0 to negative benefits in living in highly densely populated urban metropolis areas. You know, it's better to spread out. And Wednesday, we were looking at the orphan train book and the idea of having all these people settling in on the East Coast. They're getting into those port cities, and they're not spreading out further beyond that. Mhmm. So then they had all these tenement buildings. They had parents who were working in the factory 12 hours on, 12 hours off, 6 days a week, and parents dying, children just on the street.
And then, you know, you're 12 years old and you tried as an adult.
[02:54:15] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. I mean, that's why it's well, in that case capitally. It's difficult capitally.
[02:54:22] Unknown:
Right. You stole something from the grocery store. We saw you do it immediately. You're hung on the street, and all the children are invited to watch you die,
[02:54:33] Unknown:
beheadings, that sort of thing. Well, you know punishing a kid and putting him in juvie is one thing. Fucking hanging a kid? Holy shit. You wanna talk about trauma? Trauma is your friend fucking Joe that just got hung yesterday for stealing an orange. That's trauma. You don't and I really want an orange today. Holy shit.
[02:54:54] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. And before like, Marcus, I wanna touch on you you touched on something earlier. Imagine us in 2020. I don't I'm sure about you guys. In my Mhmm. I was like a hermit in my hermit phase for a decade long hermit phase. But I was talking to my friends going, and we were literally trying to be silly and go, oh, guess what they're gonna do next? And it's like, we'll tell each other, hey. They're already doing that. Like, we were trying to come up with the most absurd. Right. And my and it was like, we're trying to be funny, right, with each other. It goes, hey. Guess what? That's an actually a thing. I'm like, our imagination couldn't even go into the goofiness that has been applied, like, actually applied. And it's just like, oh my gosh. What is this? A different phase of the video game.
But, but yeah. Yeah. Sorry. I didn't want I just had to get No. That's perfect. And it was shocking how people just
[02:55:50] Unknown:
went along to get along, and they're told, you know, it's a good idea to separate standing 6 feet apart. Here are the places you can stand at the checkout, 6 feet apart, you know, cover your face, all these new rituals and ideas that were just overnight introduced. Yeah.
[02:56:12] Unknown:
Bless you all. Like,
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We don't
[02:56:16] Unknown:
The agenda 21 thing and the orphan train like, you're talking about the orphan trains and then trying to disperse the kids. But then with agenda 21, they want it to be you know, gather everybody into the bigger cities so that, you know, they can kind of implement these other tactics more easily, like, you know, shooting a fish in a barrel type of mentality.
[02:56:49] Unknown:
Sure. So there seems to be this idea of, becoming fearful of landowners with, weaponry. They're they're they're armed. Right? And if you drive into the wrong driveway to deliver an Uber Eats or something, you know, you might you might face down the barrel of a gun because you drove into the wrong driveway. So there's this sort of fear built up about, you know, what's going on outside the cities, but then there's also fear built on what's happening in the city. So there's fear everywhere. And if they're developing this idea of a 15 minute city and they're locking it down and they're going to keep everyone within, you know, a mile or 2 of their place of residence, well, they're projecting that forward to let people know that this is a possibility.
So if you wanna move out of the city, now is a great opportunity to do so, which could act as a population dispersal method to spread people out again. People are so, congregated in the same spots, and people need a little bit of space. They need some fresh air. They need their own garden to grow in. They need space. And even in these towns where they're building these townhouses and apartment buildings, well, I think we can spread those out a little further. Have people spread out so they have space.
[02:58:11] Unknown:
There's lots of space to coming to Arizona.
[02:58:15] Unknown:
On the same token, she was in the chat earlier, but I don't think she is anymore. Like, if you talk to Emily Moyer, she had no desire to get that space. And and Emily is a very intelligent, well spoken person who, I enjoy very much. And, she has no desire to. She finds country life extremely weird. It drives her nuts. She can't possibly imagine what I what I enjoy just the same as I possibly can imagine what she enjoys. Like, I walk into a city. I am looking for a way out of this fucking trap the minute I get there. Like, dear god, why did I do this? Like, okay. I gotta get my groceries, and I am going home. I, like, I go into the grocery store. I'm like the terminator. I know exactly where every item I'm gonna get is, and I'm out of here.
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Surgical.
[02:59:06] Unknown:
Mhmm. I'm saying it's a blessing because look at all the people that have woken up. Got all them people that have started questioning the bullshit. Like, all these people, even in my office, people are starting to question. These complete, like, Hunter was talking about the MPCs or the people that aren't thinking for themselves. They're like, holy shit. This is I can't I I can't even believe it. You know? Like, are you kidding me? You just woke up. Welcome. I'm glad. I'm glad you're all here. Hey. Shut up. Stop, please. Please. Sorry about the dogs. Guys.
[02:59:48] Unknown:
What do the dogs wanna say? Gordie, let the dog speak. We're awake. We're awake, Gordie. We know it's bad. Speak. See what they put in our food. That's what the dogs are saying. Right. Exactly.
[02:59:58] Unknown:
Hey. Sorry. I'm feeding your shitty food. You think human food is bad? Giving them fat. Try canned dog food.
[03:00:06] Unknown:
Not canned gravy.
[03:00:08] Unknown:
I was doing a lot of canned dog food, but I was late to the party tonight because I had to go to the store and pick up every bag of instant gravy I could find.
[03:00:18] Unknown:
Chris, did you get those gravy packets ready? Yep. The the the turkey ones are harder to find. 55 gallon drum? The beef ones are a little easier to find. I even bought out KFC.
[03:00:29] Unknown:
I went through every KFC in town.
[03:00:32] Unknown:
That white gravy. But all your gravy. Gravy? It's it's white gravy, and maybe there's pepper in it, and you can put it over a biscuit. It's a continental breakfast country style gravy.
[03:00:46] Unknown:
That's the best thing I know. Thing I have to say about 15 minutes cities
[03:00:50] Unknown:
the other thing I have to say about 15 minutes cities is they exist. I everybody's acting like this is some new thing, but anybody that's been into any major city, you can walk to the grocery store. You can walk to the gas station. You can most people can ride a bike to work. Like, back in the nineties, Boulder Boulder, Colorado was trying to pass laws where cars weren't, allowed in the city, and you had to take a bicycle because everything was available from bicycle according to them.
[03:01:23] Unknown:
Do you know what's the You have to ride the bicycle yourself? Does someone ride the bicycle for you when you sit in the back? Like the Asian the Asian dude? You know? You expect some of those people never been to the pedal their own bicycle?
[03:01:37] Unknown:
Richter.
[03:01:39] Unknown:
Yeah. Oh, hey. Jamie Jamie, in the chat pointed out a while ago now that, you you can click the thumbs up button. We got 64 people watching. We'd love to get a like because it does push us out into the algorithm better. Sorry for interrupting. But we forget sometimes to tell people, but it really does help if you click the thumbs up. If you're enjoying the conversation, please give us a like. Anyways.
[03:02:00] Unknown:
Yeah. Guys, show that love and appreciation, you know, merely that currency exchange. Hit some buttons on the inner tubes. But, I I want I gotta chime in on what Gordy was saying, and I wanna get your guys' take. So, yeah, nowadays, you mentioned to your coworkers or whoever you interact with, you go, hey. The president is a hologram or something, like, along those lines, it doesn't sound so out there anymore. They're not gonna be like like you know, that is a strange benefit to, did you know that that's not actual the president of the United States of America? That's like some other thing. Body doubles, actors. Body doubles, CGI, clones, if you wanna go and and it's not so discouraged, Alan, Marcus, my friend. Mhmm. And he's in 2019, you mentioned that they'll go, get out of here, weirdo. But now they're kinda, like, 5050.
[03:03:03] Unknown:
My kind of response to that would be I know earlier, Alan mentioned how everyone in the bios has hashtag mental health awareness. So as soon as mental health awareness goes up, conspiracy's acceptance goes up as well. I'm not saying it's one thing or the other. I'm just saying that there is a graph that you could lay out where those spikes go up together. And maybe if we look at that, that division, that separation, that left and right brain separation, there could be something near as a society.
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Like, it what goes around the background?
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Fully fully agree that that that they're gonna go in spikes. What what concerns me also then is they understand when these spikes are coming, and that's when they put, limited hangout agents and, you know, disinformation agents out and push them to the forefront because they understand the spikes coming and that people are gonna start seeking alternative information. And so they give them as much bad alternative information as they can.
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Totally.
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Yeah.
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It's like this is one thing that I've learned in life. If you're getting searched, like, your car or your house, if it's messy enough, they'll just give up because they can't scroll through all that.
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Yeah. No one wants to They are lazy. To a hoarder's house. That's the, that's the reason we have, you know, 6 hour live streams. Who's gonna comb through a 6 hour live stream to find something? We'll give him, lots of nonsense all throughout. So it's context clues are so important. You you can't really take, I've tried, believe me, 5 minutes of any stream and then put it on any other platform for it to make any sense. There's a whole journey that needs to be undergone. You have to see the introduction video. You have to listen to the music. You have to reflect on that and go through the first half and then get to that intermission, and then watch that again and again and again and again until you get enough of the gravy.
Chris, tell us about the the gravy effects, the wavy gravy. How do you Oh, yeah.
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That would that would I hope you guys enjoyed that. That took so long to actually get. That was actually so Alan has sent me his version of the video. I was like, cool. There's not enough gravy. If we're going gravy, we're going full gravy. We need this video wavy, baby. It needs to So jiggle. What I did was I layered the video on top of each other in after effect, this editing program. And so there's 3 copies of the same video. And each layer, I added a different effect that blobbed it up in a different way. So you're watching the video 3 times altogether, but one is glopping one way, the other glopping the other way.
The other one's going all kaleidoscope. So you had different layers peeling back the gravy. Nice. Because, you know, when gravy gets gets settled on top of, like, you say your mashed potatoes for a while Right. Right. Kind of get hard at the top, kind of like when you're milking a cow and the the chunky stuff's at the top. Sure. I wanted to make it to be like, oh, well, you got the liquid gravy at the bottom,
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but then you How many how many times did you watch the video playback? Multiple times? I I know I've watched that many, many times just to get everything right. So it wasn't a complete assault on all of the senses, which is to say full disclosure, I've overgravified myself. My brain is just liquid from the past 3 days of just trying to get that video only
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correct. Oh, gravy.
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Oh,
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I I go from my my brain too trying to render just to render
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everything. To get all those golden rings in line for Mel Gibson in his wheelchair to collect them all before pushing the guy out the window. A lot of work went into that, so I hope everyone watches it as often as possible. Just keep replaying it over and over again until you see all the details that are in there. And we we do need to mention again, the spring video essay contest remains open because I think it's still spring. We haven't officially declared to be summer yet. We're doing the 4 seasons calendar. So we're still in the spring season.
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to the gravy. It's not just all Mel Gibson.
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Oh, nice. Right.
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No. There's also the fat guy that just sits there and drinks the bowl of gravy while his dad tells him how it's ruining his life. Yeah. That that was fantastic. Birds, where are you from?
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Where am I from? Yeah. It's from the Internet, man. I'm familiar with that. Yeah. I was asking
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How did you come to the spiders? How did you find us?
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That's a good question. I don't know. I've been, I somehow you know, I ride the I ride the wave, and the wave brought me to to you guys. And, we are all very connected in this the web. You know what I'm saying? And I think of it as more of a fabric. So, you know, I feel very comfortable around you guys. I know I'm, like, new here just, you know, in this kind of way, but, I feel very, like, I'm among, like, like minded beings. You know what I mean? And we are we do have our all diff our different, powers. But, yeah. You know, I just vibe with, I vibe with you guys. I vibe with Interverse and Slick and Ride you know, the homie, Romy, and all those all those, folks for a while now.
And, again, I was in my hermit phase, and I came out of, my hermit phase to go. I have a feel in my heart too. I have messaged I gotta share with with the public what I had, what I, you know, what's inside, you know what I'm saying? I couldn't go hermit anymore and I feel like that relates with a lot of people, actually. It's not just me. I don't think that's, like, a unique the energies have changed. So I'm if you the realm is changing and you're not like I said last night, if the realm's changing and you're not changing, you're gonna have a very hard time. So they only make sense. I feel the realm has changed. So, I appreciate you guys, man. And, Gordy, I appreciate you, brother. And, again, I'm just kinda come I'm still coming out, and I appreciate being here, man. I'm I'm honored. And I want and I wanted to ask Alan, like, your videos that you make, I you know? Yeah. How long does it take you to make those things, man? Because the layers of I love Right. Layers, and I miss a lot. I'm not gonna lie. Alan, I'm not gonna lie. I miss a lot. You guys share stuff, and I'm gonna get 10%. I miss 90% of the great Some of these some of these videos I've been working on for over 40 years. It takes a lifetime
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to consume all this bad content and then try to put it together in a way that raises the level of absurdity to kinda question the tone if we're showing a video about Mel Gibson and conspiracy and gravy. But yet for the past 18 months, you know, we've been using that. It's like, oh, good gravy, guys. Good good synchro mysticism, good diving, good wordplay, good puns, good anagrams. And we have fun with that. Sure. But then we had completely forgotten at some point that could also be used as a tool in a blunt force trauma to the head. I mean, it could be a fun tickle stick where people are giggling because it's silly, but it could also just tickle someone in the worst possible way so that they pee their pants in front of everybody and completely embarrass themselves, you know, and that's really kind of the message there being that with Mel Gibson going on his little radio broadcast, and he's recording his, factoids and things and his conspiracy theories and his ideas about how the world works, and that's kind of a dangerous thing.
And now it's 2023 and 2020
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has a conspiracy podcast?
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Well, that wasn't that in his That was in the the movie. Right? Because he because he was on the airwaves. I you meant, like, real. I'm like, what? Thing is wonder. Well, we can start rumors too. We started off rumor. The delusion becomes true, and then Mel Gibson's talking to us on a Saturday night on a weaving spider's welcome.
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And then 2 weeks later he brings Corey Feldman.
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Right. After the release of passion, the Christ 2. In the movie wander Yeah. Mhmm. With Wander.
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Wander. And the second Amazon movie. Second one is he come back as like a fucking poltergeist and and haunt. Like, you little dirty fuckers. You turn there. Nope.
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Wander the movie. Conspiracy
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theory in, like, he was a his character was a tinfoil hat type guy. You know? Was it, like, page was the movie called, like, paycheck or something? I feel like Julia Roberts was in it, and he was like a he had a split personality. You know, he's crazy, but conspiracies. They shot you guys. This is, like, 30 years ago, I think, but it still was a good movie.
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And Gordy's talking about a movie called wander wander.
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Wander.
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Wander. The
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Amazon movie. On top of Alan's 40 years, you have my 20 plus years of stuff as well. So together, we have what, almost, like, 45 to almost 50 years between us of just
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Yeah. Right? What is the movie I wonder what what what is the movie title, Gordy? The movie It has such a forgettable title.
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It is a very forgettable title. It was, kinda soft it was released on Amazon, just just kind of thrown out there, but it was started Mhmm. Tommy Lee Jones and Aaron Eckhart both played, 2 faced in the Batman movies.
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Okay.
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In this, they are he has a conspiracy podcast, late night show on the Internet talking about conspiracies, and he is implant finds out that he is implanted by the government. And there's a government program underneath this, gas station where this guy finds out all these secrets to his own life. He's he is locked up as a nut job. There it is.
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It's the town called wander?
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Mhmm. Takes place in the four corners area on the Navajo Reservation. Where are you? Also lived once. As
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in Power Rangers?
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Yeah. Saving films. 7. Interesting.
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It was just kind of just tossed out there on Amazon, but Sure. Didn't get it much press, but it started these big names. And it has the chick from Vikings in it. Can't remember her name. And I think she's pregnant, but they're trying to hide it. Anyway, dumb detail. But he finds that he is implanted and digs it out of himself at the end. Spoilers.
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Implant movie wander.
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Yeah. I'm gonna download this later.
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He was also men in black. He was an agent.
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He was an agent. Exactly.
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And he was also a post office worker. Jones.
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Tommy Lee Jones. Tommy Lee
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Jones. Three names. Tommy Lee Jones.
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Was in, Air Force 1 as the president.
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Was that that Was it Aaron Eckhart? Movie.
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Was it Aaron Eckhart a president too? Is that a Tom Clancy
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film, Air Force 1? Well,
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maybe. It's been a I haven't watched it since I was, like, 13. So
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Air force ones Educate yourself. Harrison 4 You didn't go that way. Not a Tom Clancy thriller. Okay. Movies used to be fun.
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Movies used to be a lot fun to me. I had to sit through, Elvis last night, the movie that came out recently this past year.
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Hanks was in that. Elvis.
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And If you think of some of the decodes in movies like, Back to the Future Mhmm. I mean, they were pushing, where we was it just our age, the observer? Because they've been pushing their, you know, embedded things into the Hollyweirds for a long time now. Now maybe because I was young, I was just enjoying back to the future. You know?
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There is the organic process of screenwriters coming together to make a movie, an individual who's got an idea, an auteur whose vision goes to the screen where he writes it, no one else interjects, he's got final say on the plot, and then he gets final edit on the movie. There's that element of it's his movie. He puts his name on the movie. It's a movie by Mel Gibson, whatever it is. But then there's also this element of concern about Laurel Canyon and Hollywood Babylon. And in the military movies, we can cite the fact that if you want to make the battleship film with Rihanna and you wanna use actual battleships, then you have to have this sort of agreement and partnership with US military.
So if the US military is in your movie, will they need to appear as probably the heroes in the movie a lot of the times?
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Yeah. But the question and the question we're asking Tom Hanks is probably as nice as they make him out to be. Mhmm. He's probably, like, a really awesome guy. That's why they always put him in such awesome roles, and I'm gonna keep saying that until Cheney comes in. We can talk Tom Hanks so much. Tom Hanks. And his beautiful wife. I think her name's Rita.
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Such a nice guy. He probably deserves a Nobel prize. He spends so much time alone on islands playing volleyball or soccer ball.
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It's interesting we're talking about Hollywood right now because of the riders strike. And They're doing that again. Of the riders strike that's happening right now.
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What? Who cares? Who fucking cares? They haven't made anything good in 40 years.
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Fuck. Well, the I Part of the riot strike curve because But even the n n NHL is fixed. Guys, we're getting excited. Is agent k a reference to Ketamine in MediBlanc? It could be. It could be.
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But the the the rider strike Buzz starts singing the bosom body theme song, JD.
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You
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you go attract the whole How does it go? Yeah. AI Reminds me. Reminds me. Reminds me. Manner. Can can AI scan someone's identity, their voice in their writing, or their the way that they paint and recreate it. And is that fair?
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Well, that that plays into the imposter syndrome. There's this idea that, well, AI is gonna take all the creative jobs. So humans who are in creative fields need to learn to code, and they need to become truck drivers or figure out how they're going to, you know, learn, the the new technology of the automation of the industrial factory setting or become an Amazon employee or something. And yet no. No. No. No. No. The most the most creative humans have ideas that are soulful. And come home. Soulful ideas, Gordy. That's what we're talking about here. Yeah.
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He knows. What I thought about laughter. Love. All this movie. Because all that referred to me was they're playing on all the Elvis conspiracies.
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Was there a twin in the movie? Does anyone really care about Was Elvis born? Conspiracies anymore? Twin.
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Like, it's been so many years. Why, why are you trying to reinforce them or and make this movie? Like
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Yeah. It's Dave Holmes. Jersey. It's too soon to do the David Bowie files.
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Isn't it isn't that the thing, though? That that was the the point of the newest Elvis movie, wasn't it? It was about the colonel. He played the colonel. I don't know because
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they showed they showed JFK's assassination more than they show Priscilla. So how does the JFK assassination play into Elvis' story more than his wife?
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Priscilla, that's the person who with Aquila or tent makers in the old testament. What kind of name is Priscilla for a girl? Are you trying to punish your child? When writers give names to characters like Hitler or what's his first name? Adolf. We have, like, Adolfus Gustavus College. I'm sure they're gonna be okay. Are they gonna need to change your name? This idea that a symbol has power, and once it's used for the most evil, then nobody else can use it because they're gonna associate themselves with evil. That's sort of a difficult thing to think about.
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Elvis, can there be another Elvis? And then if you're gonna do that Can there be another Madonna? Empower them? Doesn't that really easily empower them to take away anything that's gonna empower you? Because then all they have to do is make a association, and you're like, no. Can't use that no more. Like the word conspiracy
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theory, I can't use that anymore in my ass shakers because people are gonna think I'm my nutter, and I can't show my family that I'm on Weaving Spider's welcome because they might not understand. They're not there yet.
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Think. It's not illegal yet. This is close to it. Probably.
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Who knows? How many chickens are left?
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We started with 7. Every podcast now are hashtagging their, their post to advertise for their podcast as hashtag conspiracy theory.
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Mhmm.
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So now it's it'll it'll be easy for them to oh, well, anyone that uses hashtag since Right. You wanna go find now. We're being spider's welcome.
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Remember when the hashtag was pound sign?
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Pound on the telephone star 69. Yeah. I remember landlines. Telephones, phone freaking, getting freaking a phone booth, changing into your Superman underwear. Is that what we're talking about?
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Sure. Phone booths are kinda yeah. Why did they get rid of all those?
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Because in the movie, the matrix, that's how you get out through the phone
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book. Good point.
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I have a question for Andy.
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Uh-oh.
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Uh-oh. What's your thoughts on the white Medusa?
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I haven't found anything. I pretty much watched that movie and then tried to take a nap afterwards, and it didn't work. Sam, movie? So we're gonna talk about Spice World. And Oh, okay. Josephine. Are gonna talk tonight? Or We'll talk about it a little bit. There is a phone booth in there.
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It's awesomely sized on the inside. Does the outside doesn't match the spatial dimensions of the inside?
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Well, it's only Doctor Who won.
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Guitarist. Andy, to my attention
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Oh, and to add The flip the
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the the flip side of the black Madonna is the white Medusa,
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and
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that really caught my attention. So I was, I was just curious if she's thought about it in anymore at the moment.
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Not too much. No. Yeah. There's, it's just very subtly nodded at in that movie. And then, kind of the rest of my notes were a lot about, you know, MK Ultra kind of stuff and color coding and a lot of different, things going on there. But it it's so weird that it's really hard to find, to stream anywhere. Like, every other movie, you could find it to stream anywhere or, like, at least pay for it to stream it. Right? But for this for some reason, Spice World, you can't find it, like, hardly anywhere. Because I want I was like, well, we'll just try to watch it on my TV.
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So then licensing rights limbo hell where it's just no one wants to take responsibility for
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letting anybody else see that movie ever again? Well, possibly because, I mean, it is just a retelling of the Beatles, a hard day is not in. Was it released to DVD?
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Was it a VH VHS only affair?
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I said was it 90 7 or 99 that it was 97. Okay. So it might have gotten to a DVD.
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Could be on DVD. We'll need to scour the thrift stores to find these movies.
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Yeah. Definitely do because I totally found a Mandela effect in there too. And to to for the revealing of that, you'll have to watch the king of cups episode.
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Yeah. Speaking of the Mandela effect, I I saw a video yesterday, I believe it was, that in the beat it music video, me and Michael Jackson beat it when he's in the bar and he is dancing around the pool table and he puts his hand on the pool tables, Every you can see every pool table in the bar, none of them have pockets.
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Yeah. But did MJ, like, maybe set that up so that he was, like, pointing to, like because the the line that, like because you sent me the video where you found that. These, like, snickerdoodle. Says says something about not winning or something. So I was like,
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maybe he's, like, trying to point at This was pointed out 11 years ago on Reddit, And we're just remembering it. It's not pool. What is it then? Is it a poker table?
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Snooker.
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Yeah. Snooker.
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Snook that's a snookeroodle table. Snookeroodle table. So I said earlier.
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It's way classier than pool.
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The is it like billiards? You just knock the balls around?
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All balls and no holes. It's called it's called Carom. Car it's called Carom. Yep.
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Okay. That make okay. That makes sense.
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Oh, yeah. That's the first response. 11 years ago on Reddit, Karen Billows. Billiards.
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Yeah. Snooker still has Snooker still has pockets. Karen doesn't.
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So billiards is played on a table without pockets, and pool is played on a table with pockets is the difference between billiards and snooker. Well, here's an owl right here. Karim.
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Look at that.
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Hearst Castle interior from the Casa Grande, San Simeon Ranch, California. I've got a book on this. Ran was it William Randolph Hearst, publishing empire guy? He had a pretty cool castle, mansion, large home.
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See, that's interesting. Like, I I never really paid attention to, like, the Elvis conspiracy or the Michael Jackson conspiracy because I'm like, well, they're just famous people. It doesn't matter. So, like, I'm I'm not I'm not savvy when it comes to all this. So that that's interesting.
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So, Karam, you basically you have to hit the object ball and then the other person's cue ball, both in order to score a point.
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Did you just say q?
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Does it have any new drops? Are there new drops?
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They might be dropping them. I'm not sure.
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But not in the pockets.
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That was hilarious.
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Are there a few drops?
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But,
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yeah. Did he did did he silence himself? Is there been any new information?
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Yeah. I'm curious too. Is this still a thing? Is that still We had we had Chucky today, I think. He was coronated
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earlier.
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So, yeah, a very interesting time. You know? It's just on an auspicious day, so to speak, for that.
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Right. Did I share that earlier? That meme, I think. We got a we got a meme bank. We're taking meme donations on our Telegram. So look for the, gems meme bank, and we can collect those memes and share them again if we choose to do so. Some of them are just the type of things we wanna keep to ourselves.
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And I think Yeah. If you have the latest if you have the latest q drop, I'm I'm interested in hearing just what it what it was out of curiosity. If anyone knows the topic, or is it it's just
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yeah. I mean, surely, he would have said something about Rex, our deed, and aternum here. Old sausage fingers. The walls. I should think do they call them sausage over there? And there's a goat under the throne.
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I see. Call him bangers?
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Bang bangers and mash. Bangers and mash.
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It's what? Jimmy Saville? Is that his name? Jimmy Saville?
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Saville
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Saville. Known a really well known pedophile that, like, gets away with it, apparently, just because he's cool.
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I've never seen the the statue with the bow and arrow in the background
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this pointing at them. Demon Hunter. No, I think there's a demon behind his other shoulder. So the arrow would go like behind him, perhaps.
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Dude, and then there was I think his son, one of those other prince kit guys or whatever was Mhmm. Be, like, outwardly proud of I think he went to, like, Afghanistan or something or one of those types of places and was like, yeah. I killed I killed people, and I it was great or something. This was, like, a very popular story. He he has he's quoted as enjoying, like, shooting like, killing people. You know what I mean? And you know it was he he's no special forces, so you know it was
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He's probably Harry.
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Yeah. Harry. He's one of those guys. Yeah. Yeah. They're you you yeah. Totally. And I think it was like, yeah. I went and I, like, literally killed people in a war, and you know he wasn't earning it. It was probably but, anyway, they, the the ultimate game. The
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the ultimate game. Here's the crown, and this is a 3 minute clip from their YouTube channel today. Let me know if you can hear what they say. The royal family channel.
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King of kings and lord of lords.
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Well, some people were a little upset about that one right there, and maybe the editor needs to get a slap on the wrist because listen again. Who is this in reference to?
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King of kings and lord of lords.
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Well, that's a bad juxtaposition. A real bad edit there. You'd think people would maybe ring some alarm bells there. Does it fit what Harry Potter house are you in, sir?
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Is that mink that they always
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Go save the king.
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It could be mink. Now people were defending this video saying you have to listen to the entire context of it. I understand. I understand. He believes that God gives him the right to run on earth, of course, But the way this is edited, it's a little bit wonky. Look at these close ups. They kinda do the side eyes, these,
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I'm very lost and and and very confused rather than regal at all. There's, like, no nothing about I am becoming the king. He's like
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like, that's just weird. Like but this is my insure time. I like that. Yeah.
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I like this guy on the left here, this little little young lad in the red who's making funny faces. All of these people are in front of cameras, and we gotta give them a little bit of grace. Not everyone is going to be a model or an actor for a camera. Let's watch further and see if we need to extend more grace to these folks who are in a real stuffy clothes, sitting on really old thrones, wearing dusty it's it looks like, a curtain he's got on, and, it's it's historical. We could maybe do a bad lip reading of what's going on in these guys' minds.
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What's the glove?
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Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson. Yeah.
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One moment. This puts him on the top of the hit list. Hide his fucking sausage fingers. He's got some sort of lesions or some shit on him.
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I'm hearing that. White cloth. Hey, Andy. Abby? Abby, I'm sorry. Okay. No. I'm, like, hearing that, do we believe it? We gathered here today. Today.
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We can maybe get to the princess, what was it? The princess bride of Christ video, Jim? Princess bride. There we go. I The no. The, no, the princess bride of Christ video. Well Yeah. It's, more of a passionate play in a church setting, but let's focus on king Chuckles here and his white glove, Michael Jackson style. These these poor boys.
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These poor boys don't want their fingers. How do you have just such sausages,
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sweet sweet sweet long fingers?
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Like like, you can barely see his knuckles.
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To dress his corpse right up.
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I'm trying to see what's carved in this wooden seat behind that he's sitting on. I can't make out I mean, I see those some letters. I'm wondering if I think that's j g Wentworth. If you want money now, you call this number.
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877 cash, ma'am.
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It's my money, and I want it now. -I didn't brush my teeth. -I'm sorry. -I should brush my teeth.
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-So So he wears a glove to keep his hands clean when he's doing dirty business. He wears it on his right hand, and his left hand is uncovered. So he's okay with doing dirty business with his left hand.
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What's going on with her brow? Many something behind with your left hand, so maybe he doesn't want white gloves for that.
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Yeah. There's a Yeah. There that's a nose. There's another
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nose of another fellow. I think it's the woman behind her with the Pinocchio nose extending all the way to the Who knows this? Like yeah. Okay. We can make so many jokes about this. The point is these are the royalty, and these are the the most important people in the galaxy. And their film crew is probably their own family members, like their cousins, people they know. Their cousin, Betty? You'd think they would have made this look a whole lot better. It looks like a $1,000,000. Sure. But you guys, this needs to look like a $1,000,000,000,000. This needs to look like an obscene amount of wealth because this just looks like a second act play. It's like
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almost like a hallmark movie. They look like cheap costumes. They don't even look like they're actually fancy, expensive clothes. They just like
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costume clothes. No one's smiling. I wonder how many sacrifices,
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blood sacrifices happened last night. That guy is smirking a little bit. He sees the Sasha's fingers. Why does it look like little kids have graffitied the fuck out of that throne? Back up and back up just a bit where you can actually see the another angle of it. Okay. It looks like somebody carved, like Carvings. Yeah. Just like little kid carvings all over in it. It's not ever been restored.
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Of course, it's antique. It's the ritual throne. It has this sort of top of a star triangle shape with it. Does anyone know anything about this?
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Well, what's the word that's carved into the wood part right there? I think it says,
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d I c k. Nikki. Or Dink.
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I don't know. C Tennent, t e n e n t. Oh, wow. Really? Something, but there's other there.
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Brian said that the seat of that throne is that's must be the most important part, and that stone, every king of England has been thrown has been crowned on that stone that he's sitting on right now.
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The stone of scone?
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The tenant, the Seder Square.
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Mhmm.
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What does it smell like, do you think?
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Probably. Bangers and mash parts,
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moth balls, and whoopee cushions.
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So I noticed, William is wearing, the cloak of the order of the garter, which is totally, different kind of a thing.
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It's pretty bad omen to to start your rain right after an eclipse, a lunar eclipse, I would say. I think he's worried somebody's gonna pick him off.
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Yeah. He doesn't say Do you think it's the guy that yelled at? Way does he look like he's being crowned king? No way. Astrologically.
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Terra fucking fied. There's no joy here. See that, in the past, if there was an eclipse and they had to do a coronation, they would coronate, like, the successor or the, you know, the person who this who would secede the throne in place of the new king or whatever, and then they would knock him off. So that way Oh, wow. The king could take the the rightful king could take the throne without having
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the bad fortune that comes with a an eclipse. He's gonna get knocked off. I bet you. Yeah. That's That's why he looks so terrified.
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And then why Christopher Columbus.
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Is it William's gonna take it? Who directed the best Harry Potter movies? Get that guy. Bring him in. Come on. Give him an OBE for services, king and country or something.
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Reanimate Stanley Kubrick.
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All these all these boys are pushing their tongue like they're doing the blowjob motion with it's just this other girl's blowing her nose. I mean, these are just real people. Real people
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not wanting to be there. Seeing his death. And you look sad. Look at that. Man, he is gonna die. Yeah. He is gonna get it. Wow. Goodness. Yeah. Yeah. Earlier this week, Kaylee Bricana did a live stream. She was just mentioning, like, this is, like, the worst. Astrologically, like, this is the worst time to do a core coronation. So, yeah, I I believe it. Someone's forcing this timeline.
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Mhmm. Yeah.
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Getting them on the throne at a obscene time.
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Well and, honestly, he was now let's take this back to what was just said about, astrologically, they would put in, the wrong king so that way the right king would not get this curse. Growing up, most of us that, you know, during the princess Diana time and whatnot, we understood that he was never gonna be king. Right. Yeah. That he was exed out of the and then suddenly, he's back in. So is this just a sham for him to be vacated or die in a very short order and then turn around and put William in or whoever they decide is gonna be the next one.
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They're anti Christ. William, he brags about having a scar on his head just like the antichrist where he got hit with a golf club when he was a boy.
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He says it Harry Potter.
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He says it glows.
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Really? Sure. Okay, Harry Potter.
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Prince Harry. Harry and the Potters.
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Yeah. Well, that's the other weird thing, I think, is that him and his wife moved to America, and I think I was talking to Cheney about this and how I thought, like, the king for a day ritual that they always I might have mentioned it in a stream before, but that they always are talking about with, like, celebrities where they'll raise them up and then they'll knock them down because they're, like, they take, like, the fool or whatever and make him king for a day, and then, you know, cut him down afterwards. So I've kinda had this idea, like, oh, maybe since, you know, some people are under the impression that we're still technically under British rule, that we're kinda like the king for a day country.
So it was like, okay. You can have your time or whatever. But then at the end of it, we're just gonna knock you down. And, like, with the, the champagne carpet, the Oscars and stuff like that and all this kinda like sunset time symbolism that's been going on is it's kinda interesting mix of things going on with the coronation as well.
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Well, they just stopped oil protesters. Gosh. Yeah. Yeah. They, they made this a meme club. Look, look, he's look how bored they are. And then they put it on the Royal Channel on YouTube.
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Well, of course they're bored. Like, what kid is not bored when they have to sit through a wedding or whatnot, any type of ceremony? Right. Because the kid doesn't want to sit still and be quiet and watch all the all this ritual and things that aren't, you know, matchative and playful.
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Yeah. It just tells you, like, how, like, pump how much pump it it actually is, like, by saying, oh, the kids are bored. Well, like, obviously. Things that there's unnecessary stuff going on. Most kids can hold their attention for, like, that kind of stuff for, like, maybe 20 minutes.
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Maya L'Ritchie, was that the coronation? Is that what they were showing? In Lionel Richie?
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Was he?
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I think that's what I saw. You did see that. Just take another look. Why is Lionel Richie at the cool? But There's some ceiling dancing.
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Why aren't there other celebrities there? Yeah. Lionel Richie. All nice. Celebrities. Let's
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Lionel Richie.
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Yeah. He's got a top hat. Lionel Richie. Are. I mean, to be blunt, is this the only, black person they could get to show up in a tuxedo and honor this, advice.
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They had some, Arabian looking fellers in the crowd. Right.
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Well, they had to stop oil protesters, but then they had the oil families again. Is anyone really, enamored with the glamour magic of this dreaded ritual coronation of the king after an eclipse, after all the austerity treatment, after all the riots happening in the street?
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I there's a lot of people that I bet are.
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This this king is not well received.
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I had no idea this was going on until I saw it on a television today. I, like, literally had no idea anything about any of this. But There there are people that are probably, like, into like, oh, wow. You know, they don't see the
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Well Yeah. That that that actually makes me think of, you know so back when the, queen passed and we did our our livestream growing then, I mentioned d 23 and that Disney movie, Wish, that comes out next year. Well, it just so happens, they recently, within the past couple weeks, released the 1st teaser trailer for it and revealed that the the Disney villain of this new movie isn't the evil stepmother but the evil king. So and everyone's making a big deal. All the movie, you know, channels and everything is This point, oh, this Disney's first time having a a evil king, and all this is done. The evil the evil stepmother and all that. And now you have, in the real world, this coronation that we're all talking about a couple weeks later.
And so my and so if we're talking about conspiracies and saying, well, that isn't the real king. They're waiting for him to something happened, the curse, so a new king can step in, then where is the real king? Where are the kings of the world right now? Where where are the the kings? Where are the people with the crowns on their head?
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I I don't know. I haven't seen them.
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Burger King? Are they at Burger King? Burger King. With crowns on their head? Well,
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I was more thinking of, like, a real king, like the archetype of a king, the masculine, the strong man, where are they? Sure.
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What's even more spooky with that video clip? That video clip starts with some religious figure talking about who's who's the god? Who's the okay. So, again Lord of lords. Lord of lords and king of kings, and they cut to this king. And now they're going to let us know that sausage fingers here, this this senile old man, it doesn't have much more time to live. Scared. This very feeble, sausage fingered, scared old man. Here's the conspiracy theory, everybody. If this video clip equates king Chucky with king of kings and lord of lords, God, god's son, son of god, son, god. Okay.
And they're gonna kill him. Does that mean that king of kings or lords equals king Charles equals the deity equals going to die equals they're trying to kill God? Is this a killing God ritual for an anti life equation for a satanic culture?
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It's a game of a geo and he's the white king. They're gonna take him down and enact sim symbolic magically their plan of taking over. Yes.
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So if you kill the god king, then will it be machines that they want to replace as the leaders in the create a vacuum. To decide the supply chain issues. So if they kill all forms of leadership, if sleepy Joe Biden is not fit to rule and everybody hates the government, they don't like the king. Now, does it seem like at this point, the plot line of the movie is leading towards the populations not wanting that sort of authority, hating the government, but now a vacuum creates a need for a technocratic, Taco Bell oligarchy of the what is this?
Corporatocracy where it's really the private corporations and the black rock black rocks of the world. It's a beautiful plan. The bankers are the ones that have all the the money, So they're going to build the computer to then have their the, world simulation to decide who will be the governor of certain regions as they try to redraw
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And it's a magical plan because any anytime they want to, they could just blow up a whole block and say, oops, the AI messed up. And, these electric meters blew up, you know, like it was just a problem. Like nobody, it was an accident. It was the AI, like, sorry. And nobody's held accountable. They can do whatever they want. They could crash airplanes.
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You know? I don't know. Like a a false incompetence.
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False incompetence.
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If they on at like, what Alan is saying, on your TV screens and your phones and everywhere you look, they're flashing incompetent leaders when all you have to do is you can step up. The person beside you could step up, but you're not because you're just like, everyone's incompetent. Even, you know, you you may even feel like yourself are incompetent because of this situation. You're you're down on yourself when all you have to do is lift yourself up.
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Yeah. If we see the leaders can't do anything, like, what good are we gonna be?
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You know? Well and I like, with that if you remember, you know, like, the Arabian Peninsula and other places where the British are responsible for drawing a lot of those imaginary lines, I'm sure they probably got 2 local groups to fight each other and come in as a third party to go, let's draw the lines for everyone and then have influence. That's nothing new under the sun. So that's probably what's their plan, just a little bit more advanced, but a similar playbook. I feel like I feel like we all kinda know their playbook, but they still run it anyway. Why? Because it it still works. It's like Right. We're gonna steep run keep running these plays until you stop us. It's working. I'm gonna tell them the wheels fall off. It started right.
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It started a while before that, though, because, like, like, my kids, shit. When they were little, there's a show called Max and Ruby, and it was a little cartoon. And it's a little girl named Ruby. She's a little bunny rabbit, and she had a little brother named Max, and there's no parents. She's, like, taking care of her little brother. And then all the stuff, like, Dora the Explorer, you never met her parents. Then the same thing with, like, all the shows on Nickelodeon. There was, like, Zoe 101. None of them had parents. And then when they did have parents, there was usually just 1.
And then if you saw them, they were fucking idiots. So they started with this generation, you know, my kids' generation, young, to let them see that the authority figures, if they're even there, are fucking idiots. So it's been implanted in their brains since they were little.
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Yeah. I wrote a story generation was kind of that generation. There was no authority. Because you had,
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Marsha, go ahead, Ben. I was talking about it earlier. You're right, Ben. There was no no authority. We had no authority. We were we raised ourselves.
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Oh, yeah. So
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any other show that was better than that.
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Yeah. Another show that comes to mind is this show dragon tales. Because, I mean, that show, they would go off into this magical world, and the parents wouldn't know that they were going off and flying with dragons and things. And they'll come back, and the parent at the end of the episode, they'll go back into the room, and the parents would come and check-in. And they're, you know, j dragon wallpaper. Like, oh, you're just playing in your room. You're not off and, you know, Never Never Land with Peter Pan sort of a thing.
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The Muppet Babies, if you remember, like, there was, like, a bunch of babies in a room together, and then you'd see the nanny sometimes her legs, but there is no parents.
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Oh, like Rugrats? The parents were, like, hardly ever in the room, and they're, like, bay they're, like, actual babies.
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Yeah. Always unintended.
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If the playbook seems to be that of demoralization, and we're gonna do the wavy gravy word breakdown here, de remove moral, like, morals. Like, do you have morality? Do you know what's good? Do you know what's evil? And if you remove the moralization, that's sort of the motivation to do anything because you've been convinced that evil has already won. So you're demoralized. And then by removing the good and the heroic and the brave, and the masculine and the strong and the courageous because they're demoralized that ties into the idea that we talked about in the first part of the show with men who are told and convinced that they will not marry a woman, that they will not have children, that they will not be fathers.
So that's a huge demoralization. You basically said your entire existence, it's not gonna happen. That's a huge demoralization, which seems to say that you have no purpose here because your biological purpose for existing, spreading your seed, being a man, having a wife, raising a family, doesn't exist. You can't do that because you'll never find someone. And then that plays into the demoralization for the women who can't find no good man anywhere, and they can't find someone who wants to settle down. So this demoralization period continues.
And now we have to ask, at what point do we remoralize and rejuvenate and create a sense of meaning again to say, well, a lot of that is lies. A lot of that is untrue stuff. And if the conspiracy movement acts as a demoralization campaign filled with fear porn to say that there's too much evil in the world for you to make any difference in your own life than have people given up before they've even failed their first time. That was the other question we asked about, you know, feeling just a little bit of discomfort or pain and not being able to grow and abstract one as a bodybuilder, if you don't ever feel a little bit of pain, is there any gain? Is that what they say in the gym?
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No. Yeah. You better feel some pain. You better cry. You gotta, it's called you you gotta fatigue, man. Failure. So you can't do anymore. Keep going Is that where you think it is? It's past that point.
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So the thing that we've lost in society is this thing called integrity, Lucas.
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Entetracy.
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Why I have no problem, Lucas, with thinking about it because I have this thing called integrity. So the thing is I was never a bear. Owen would call would text me and ask me farm questions and how to do things because he has no skills. And so he has to rely on other people to try and teach him, but once he started getting a bunch of money and popularity again, he went back to that and gave up all integrity. And so I don't care if he doesn't like me. I don't care if he wants to talk shit and keep being a bitch. He's the one who has no integrity, and he's not gonna take mine.
So I don't care about the bears or the community. If you all wanna keep following a dude who calls himself a bear, we all know a bear is a big gay dude, who feeds this dude's gravy. I mean, how fucking on the nose is that? Like, this big gay dude is bull gravy. Like and then he's just a Hollywood cunt. That's all the dude really is. He's not even a homesteader anymore. I don't have the time to spend the on the Internet to fucking deal with the shit that that dude puts out and everything else because I actually do work. He doesn't. He sits on the Internet. That's why he's got man tits. Because he's not homesteading. No homesteader's built like that. Because we work.
We have integrity. He has none. He tried to borrow some and then lost it. And so, no, I don't gotta think about it, bro. You need to think about it. You can either follow Hollywood bitch boy who's acting completely out of line, and you guys are the ones that are empowering that. You guys are the ones that are saying, oh, yeah. It's okay to call other men pedals. Something that actually can get them in trouble. CPS takes nothing to get to your house. Nothing. Takes everything to get them to leave. But cool. Do that just because old bitch boy has a temper tantrum.
Have some integrity. This is what society lost right here. See this? The quality of being honest and having strong moral principles, moral uprightness. I know he wanted to fucking shit on me for having it, but I ain't giving mine up for you, you fucking oversized cunt. Think about it.
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It's very demoralizing to entire community. They were led maybe into a cul de sac where they're just left to hang out to dry and fend for themselves. Is that positive community? What fruit has it beared? It's kind of a I shouldn't have said bear like that. I'm sorry To all the all the bears with integrity who stand by us and chat sometimes. We appreciate that.
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And there are a lot. Yes. Awesome. Some of them. This all this makes me think of is that it's that's also easy way for this whole if if men and women are feeling down, they feel like they can't they're not not gonna find their significant other. And then they're gonna if and then they're not trying, that means that that's a good way to end a lot of lineages because then the the lineage are gonna stop with them. So that's a good way to
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end multiple,
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Kings.
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That's a baby. And shout out to all the otters out there. We were talking bears. Let's not forget about the otters.
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Is there a otter is there a secret otter community that I'm, unaware of? There is. Is there, an otter called Please explain. Because I don't know where.
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Are other animal spirit guides available?
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You got you got bears in certain communities. You have bears, and some people are otters. So shout out to all the otters in those recesses of they're they're not, being so hidden too much anymore, Gordy. I think they're a little more out in the open nowadays, but, Shrek, we just want we don't wanna leave anyone out. If you identify as an otter, you're welcome here as well.
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Birds, are you do you identify as a bird?
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Do I, I'm not sure if our lesbian fits into this, but let's not forget about the
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I think that's an that's an that's an island thing. Right. Sure. They all live on an island.
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Okay. That's where I suppose come from. Yes. Clam Eaters. They do. They are otters.
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Or is an otter like a woodchuck?
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An otter is like is like a weasel. I you know what? I should've looked at Yes. Weasel. I think weasel. Am I using the Am I saying the weasel family?
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Or, yeah, I might be using the term incorrectly. Maybe it's the Otters are water weasels.
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Water weasels. Yeah. We've had
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some water weasels in our chat, and we usually don't like to give them enough attention. We do give them a huge responsibility with the wrench to not injure themselves or others with the use of the wrench. But at some point, when adults are speaking in a room and there's monkeys with wrenches making fools of themselves again and again when we're trying to construct something here and remoralize a culture that is so easily, gathered together and rounded up like a herd and then led through certain channels and then dropped off and left to fend for themselves. And then at that point, when they're just cannibalizing each other, then we're all very sad about that. So you that's Disgusting. It's terrible. It's not a happy ending, and we can all live better. We don't need to be living in fear or demoralized or identified as a loser in life, taking the l and then not accomplishing anything. Of course, you're gonna have to lose a lot of times to learn to be a good sport, to then play again, and then coach your own kids someday.
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And if you do fall for some of these people's spiels that, they wanna con you in some kind of a way that doesn't say as much about you as it does about them.
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And Right. We've all been we've all been hungry. We've all stood in line. We've all had that free continental breakfast because we're hungry, and they gave us the gravy. And a little bit later in the day, it didn't sit so well because it was yesterday's gravy. It was old gravy. It was bad gravy. Well, you know, a little indigestion. Let that be a lesson to you. Maybe skip the bad breakfast.
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Try a salad.
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Grow your own food.
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Yeah. That's part of the growing process. You you develop more discernment. You take the pieces that were good. You dump the pieces that were crap. You know? For for a while, dude was talking about homesteading and really pushing that. That was good stuff. Keep it.
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Remain true to what the mission was originally.
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You If the captain sinks the ship over the biscuits and gravy.
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Right. You don't have to go down with the ship. You don't have to defend the sinking Titanic until you're googling saltwater and you're freezing your tootsies off. All because of a girl named Rose. Any Because she took her top off for you, and you got to see her, and you drew her picture, You steamed up the cars. Come on, man. There there are other movies.
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And if anyone out there really wants to ride down the boardwalk in roller skates, if that if you feel that, I say do it. If that's that's what's in your heart,
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go do I don't know. I I Sarah Jessica Parker movie where she wore the roller skates. What movie was that? Oh. But the, the guy with the funny looking nose who writes the poetry. Or,
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was it the nickel it's not that Las Vegas one.
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I have no idea. How old is this movie?
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It's a real movie. I saw it. So Sarah Jessica Parker, and she was wearing roller skates. Like, based on.
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I'll I'll look it up. I got time. We're we're not doing anything right now. Yeah. And I haven't followed her career like I don't know all her, work. I'm not a follower of her work. But,
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there's somebody LA story?
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Somebody in the chat? Interesting. LA story. Sounds like like, one of those older oh, gosh. I'm Steve Martin? I think you're right. Steve Martin. There might have been a Douglas in there, like, 1 a Michael Douglas perhaps, or is that or am I off on that one?
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I'm sorry. I don't know if this What's that? It's all garbage up there.
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The only movie that's coming to my mind is that roller skating, roller rink movie
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where they It could have been this one. Bloodsport.
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Not Bloodsport. Bloodsport was that fighting movie.
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Yeah. Roll bounce.
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Rolled oh, what was that? That's a little bow wow? Hey, Balderson. Help me out. Eighties, maybe seventies. It was like a a killer roller derby movie with, like, motorcycles and shit.
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Rollerball. It's rollerball, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was rollerball. 100%.
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See, there's that there's that old garbage coming back up, that 50 years of of, watching shitty movies.
[04:13:25] Unknown:
You better churn your compost once in a while.
[04:13:28] Unknown:
Yeah. Right. Exactly. Gotta roll that around. I think I was thinking of Roxanne Roxanne. Was Daryl Hannah. I don't know if she had roller skates or not. I I think I was probably watching Roxanne and, LA story at the same time simultaneously. 2 screens. That's this is the only way you can consume all of the movies before you die is by watching multiple movies at the same time to get through them. There's so many important films that you need to see
[04:14:01] Unknown:
with your time. We layer them for you at the intro and intermissions. We layer them. Yes. We're gonna order them at the same All the important scenes.
[04:14:14] Unknown:
Yep. And the Hollywood writers strike, again, the unions, again, if that's Hollywood Babylon, man, there's already such a vibrant Christian community. They're already on God's not dead, what, 3, 4, 5, and 6. So we're gonna be okay. We got plenty of entertainment available. Fireproof? Come on. That guy will never burn down. He's so faithful in his marriage.
[04:14:44] Unknown:
We will always have a new What new film to watch.
[04:14:48] Unknown:
What people really should've gotten out of it too is the huge list of talking heads who are giving out political points. How many of them were under the same exact writing team? Because when we're talking about late night hosts, these comedy hosts, these have these have become the liberal talking heads. The these libtards don't want to sit down and actually get political information and and be truly informed. They want somebody to make Trump jokes because, you know, Trump's all bad and orange man bad, things like that, which I'm not saying Trump's great good by any means. But this is what they want. So there's really so they get their political information from these comedians.
And we look a whole giant list of them all from the same writers.
[04:15:38] Unknown:
Yep. That's right. They are making a biopic film. We're going back to the biopics about the first night that Saturday night live went live and the chaos leading up to the we're live of that first broadcast. Because, apparently, it was KGOS, and they feel like they need to tell their version of a story to entertain us about their mishaps before their
[04:16:17] Unknown:
What is up with all these movies lately about, like, the most flipping Monday, like the Tetris movie.
[04:16:25] Unknown:
And now they have this Blackberry movie. And now they have Hey. That looks like a good one. I wanna I wanna know I wanna know about the BlackBerry. That little device that Obama used for a couple of times to send some emails about hot dogs and other menu items that probably wanted to try and choose what they're gonna celebrate and what they're gonna eat together.
[04:16:47] Unknown:
Well, we'll all find out exactly. The Barbie movie to review the Barbie movie for we will try your role to come on.
[04:16:57] Unknown:
There can only there's only one Ellen.
[04:17:01] Unknown:
Can I ask, Balderson a question? When it comes to someone like Owen Benjamin, and if he's not vibing with you like, I don't really listen to him. I'm very I'm aware. I've checked him out, and he doesn't vibe, and I just move on. Why, does it make sense to provide any prana or any, attention to, that's that side of the Internet. If you're not really feeling it, just go, I'm over it, And then you just don't really even pay attention anymore. And I think holding you know, as they used to say, like, having real estate in your head. You know? Why allow him to maybe have some real estate in your head? Is it what what are your thoughts on that? And I'm not I'm asking
[04:17:47] Unknown:
I'm not So if you're if you're an outsider, there's no reason for you to do that. The the difference is is Owen made friends with me a number of years ago. I specifically, what happened was he started going he he he pushed away from Hollywood and started moving toward the homesteader life. And so Owen knew who I was before I ever seen any of his TV shows or movies. I don't watch romantic comedies, and I don't watch TV. So he saw, videos of me sharing alpacas and doing homesteading, and he's like and the thing about the shearing alpacas is that most people in the shear alpacas, they have to tie them down super tight. This animal's damn near drawn and quartered.
And then they take this big machine and they rip it all over in the alpaca screaming and fighting. And when I do it, we lay the alpaca down, and the person helping me can basically just hold just kinda, you know, pet their head. And then I take a big ass, and, you know, hand big old hand shears, and I shear the animal and I shear the animal that way. So he asked to you know, started asking around to get ahold of me and wanted to have some talks with me. And, you know, even if the guy was Hollywood or whatever and not quite like I am, you know, that's such an excellent move, and it was very impressive. So while I'm not the coolest kid on the block, my voice has real big ripples, real big ripples.
And so when, I made friends with him, and I'm well known for just being, like and to being who I am is the thing I'm known for. And I live off grid. I, I live the life I'm talking about. Okay? So when he so, basically, he started borrowing some of my integrity. And he was and he and at the time, I think he was trying to be solid. I really do. And, so over the years now, he's grown real popular on this, and he's transitioned everything. And now he's gotten a whole bunch of land and gotten all these people to donate a ton of money to him, and I do mean a ton. And the guy starts doing things that are completely out of line.
And so, mostly, I just ignored him also and didn't say anything. And then what he started doing was coming out and other guys that were coming up in the community that were doing the things that we're talking about, that we're trying to live an alternative lifestyle and break from civilization. He started cutting those guys' legs out from under them. I mean, if you go into my chat of my of my video, and this doesn't even touch my other social medias, There's about 540 comments. About 520 are all just completely shitting on him, talking about how he's done this over and over to other people. Well, now because he's not been reined in, he's built spiraled himself up to a level where now if somebody's anybody that's, doesn't completely agree with them, he just goes out and outright attacks.
And that's all again, all fine. I don't care. Then he started calling guys pedophiles. And 2 of the guys that he was calling a pedophile were, young family men with little kids, and all of them under under kindergarten age. And when he called them pedophiles, he had this giant story that he laid out. And then what he also does is he knows even though he's not calling shots, he knows that he has a certain percentage of his bear community are fucking frothing lunatics. Now there's a substantial amount that are decent dudes and completely normal people. And these people were following him for the homesteading and the the trying to live a better life, not this life that, society's been feeding us.
So when he started saying that he was relying on his frothing lunatic percentage. And what that percentage does is anything that Owen points at, they come unglued on. On. And he had a large enough following that, this was an extremely dangerous thing. And and anybody that understands pedophilia and, CPS, it doesn't take much more than a rumor to get CPS at your house. You get, 3, 4 guys calling with the same story about something and digging around on your Internet. James has said that his all of his accounts have been hacked. You know, for when he decided to start doing, within a couple weeks, he had a quarter of a $1,000,000 drummed up in donations just because he wanted an idea. So you know what kind of power that is? You could work you could work your whole life without having a quarter of a $1,000,000 in your hand to fucking go throw down on some land free and clear, and he does it in a couple weeks just by asking. So do you know what kind of power that is? So when he comes out and starts saying that, and again, there's a a strong association to me, then I need to make that break from that. And then men that were looking for an example of a man to to something to to put their lodestone to, when a real man sees another man doing some shit like that, you call it out.
And then the ones who have who don't quite have that load stone down for themselves, they see what a real example is. They see what a man with a spine is. Because it's easy to cave to a dude like that that's gonna get 100 and thousands of people shitting on you, and and, you know, you're not the cool kid. You should come to the pressure, lots of people. We've watched pea, speakers in the community when the community gets mad at them just roll out because they can't handle the the people crapping on them. How easy is that? So when somebody just says, I don't care. What do I got to lose? I was never making money. I didn't monetize my channel. I don't care about clicks. You wanna fight? Fight me. Quit fighting the dudes with the fucking with the small kids. Quit freaking ruining their lives and their businesses.
So, yeah, I agree with you 95% of the time, and, and I'm not gonna continue to put energy into it. But when a man sees another man, especially one that he's personal friends with and talks to personally on the phone, when they do wrong, you call it out. That's how men keep each other straight.
[04:24:46] Unknown:
Well, thank you for that. I was thank you for, I was just curious, man. Thank I appreciate you, man. Real, like attracts like, and the the phonies are gonna be revealed. It's literally written in the round. The any phoniness, if you're not unique, you will be revealed. So I always encourage everyone to just now is not the time to be phony. Now is the time to let, if it's relationships or anything or you're you're kind of being those lies, it's gonna be revealed now. So all the real ones, will still you'll see them and all the fake ones will you'll see them and you don't have to look very closely. They'll it'll be very obvious. So I recommend to everyone, including myself. I don't talk.
I'm always talking to myself when I say things like this is to be your unique self. And and and if you'll actually, it will be, like, rewarded. Like, now is the time if you are your unique self. It's also the time for the extra work to go. This is this is who I am, guys. This is what I am. And take it or leave it. And it will actually, like, be rewarded, based on the, like, times nowadays. You know, that's just how it is. And if you're phony and you're trying to push and you're like, I'm pretending and I'm holding on to the old paradigms or whatever and you're not changing, it's not gonna be it's gonna be a rough. So, I think that's the way I see it. So, yeah, man.
Respect. Respect.
[04:26:21] Unknown:
That phoniest theme is in JD Salinger's, the catcher in the rye, the 16 year old Holden Caulfield guy that ties into conspiracy theory culture because people that are aware of this book and read this book have been triggered perhaps. Hate that book. I've never read the book because I I knew it was Philophones, and I'm a literary snob.
[04:26:48] Unknown:
I wonder why that's why they call them phones. We talk on the phones. We talk on the phones.
[04:26:56] Unknown:
Well, yeah, it comes from the Phoenicians is one,
[04:27:01] Unknown:
layer of that word. That's a sore spot, birds. We don't talk about Phoenicians for another few weeks.
[04:27:09] Unknown:
Yeah. We're gonna go ahead and skip that one.
[04:27:15] Unknown:
Sorry. I didn't bring up I didn't know there was a sore spot. I never heard it's like, hey. We don't talk Phoenicians in here. That's I love that. I love the randomness of it. I I gotta make a
[04:27:30] Unknown:
Yeah. We don't wanna argue alphabets tonight.
[04:27:33] Unknown:
Oh,
[04:27:34] Unknown:
shit. If if chat could just resort to using emojis only tonight for the rest of the evening, please, that would really help us all out so we don't have to form is also
[04:27:47] Unknown:
accepted.
[04:27:48] Unknown:
Or it's like, do I only want a dollar? I feel like if I, say anything, it's like you owe a dollar. It's a seek the secret word for tonight.
[04:27:56] Unknown:
Right. Right. Yeah. And there was that topic of authority and deconstructing and cult awareness. This has been passed around the Internet. This is the, is it Word of Life Fellowship? Does anybody know this church? Essentially, they have this list for their members. I don't think you get this immediately upon joining, but they have this list of do's and don'ts. And some of the do's are that you'll be required to attend service. You'll be required to tithe. That's 10% of your gross earnings and give offerings. A woman named Jane will check your records from time to time. You will be required to smile on command. This is called keeping your happy face.
You will be required to participate in group work projects. You will enjoy it. After each service, you'll be you will be required to clean the church and fellowship hall on a rotating basis. Now those are the 5 dos. They have a list of over 200 don'ts. Don't drink alcohol. Don't cook with alcohol. Don't eat at places that serve alcohol. Don't drink, in quotes, root beer. Don't drink the, registered brand of Cheerwine. Don't drink diet Cheerwine. Don't drink ginger ale. Don't smoke cigarettes. Don't dip snuff. Don't use chew tobacco.
Don't watch videos in your car, especially in your car. Don't watch movies at all, unless Jane approves. Don't go to a movie theater. Don't read the newspapers, not even the headlines. Don't listen to the radio. Again. So sometimes you'll know that you're joining a cult. Sometimes it'll be very obvious that you're in a cult. Sometimes you won't find out until later. Certainly there's there's other pages to this I can bring up. Is this Word of Life Fellowship? Has anyone heard of this? There's there are paper trails and documents and things.
[04:29:55] Unknown:
No. Where's where's Word of Life Fellowship?
[04:29:58] Unknown:
I haven't done that amount of homework yet because I haven't gotten through the lists of what not to do. Oh. Okay. So there are more. I wanna make sure I get 18 to 52. Let's see. Not 123 to 145. I gotta get these sheets in order because if I don't have order in this, I think Jane's gonna be really upset with me. So here's, 18 through 52. Don't watch television. Don't read books that are not approved by leadership. Don't read your Bible too much because, you don't wanna read your Bible too much. The amplified version is acceptable. Don't take notes during the services. Don't forget to go to the bathroom before the service. Don't go to the bathroom during the service. Don't bring any knives on the church property. Don't be late for service.
Don't park alongside the left side of the sanctuary unless you are approved. So there's approved parking, nowhere to park. And don't park in the space as close as the back step, so it's a reserve for parents of infants. Don't park in the first spot along the sidewalk. There's a whole list of don't parks. Don't speed when driving on the church, don't go opposite to the accepted traffic flow of counterclockwise. It causes confusion. Don't ban your cell phone when approaching the school. Don't drive your car with expired tags. You'll be reminded if your tag is expired. Men, don't wear a color of dress shirt except white or light blue.
Women don't get your heart set on a dress until you check with others to see of anyone else has that dress. You may need to return yours. So all of these problems that leadership has experienced in church, was written down a list of rules. And over time, they added more and more rules. As you can see, there's 53 through 86 if you're curious about more of these rules. And this is kinda ridiculous. Don't wear anything with Nike on it. Nothing. There's a rule against wearing cargo pants. Don't wear black tennis shoes. Don't wear high cut boot like tennis shoes, all these rules about shoes. Don't wear, in quotes, muscle T shirts. I think those are wife beaters, and you don't wanna be seen as beating your wife.
Don't go swimming with boys and girls together. Don't leave the pool toys out when you're done using the pool. Don't go outside with a sunscreen. Maybe they should just empty the pool and then say, don't skateboard in the pool.
[04:32:21] Unknown:
That would probably Hold on. Is number 83 say say Jane needs to get a feel for the neighborhood?
[04:32:28] Unknown:
Oh my god. 3 says, don't even make an offer on a house unless Jane can check out and get a feel for the neighborhood. So they wanna buy property. Get felt up by the neighborhood before you can move in? Don't sign up for classes unless Jane Whaley or leadership checks out your your class schedule. Men, don't allow facial hair to grow. No beards of any type and no pork chop sideburns. So this is welcoming you to the word of life fellowship. So as you see over time, people wanting to control other people take all these concerns, and they begin to make more and more rules. They begin to say certain words are not allowed, Certain words are bad words. They reduce the language. They reduce the freedom because of the need to have more control over a situation.
Does that remind you of anything?
[04:33:25] Unknown:
That reminds me that you're what is not a bad word? Gravy. Gravy is not a bad word. I love me some biscuits and gravy.
[04:33:37] Unknown:
Fart is not a bad word. I will die on this hill.
[04:33:41] Unknown:
The order not a fart. That's the f word. It's making a windy.
[04:33:46] Unknown:
F j a r d. It's pronounced fjord. Fjord. Right. Yeah. Don't yeah. I don't know if Jane allows us to talk about body functions like that. I'll let's see. We got we got some more rules to go through.
[04:34:05] Unknown:
There's a whole list of Christy and her family, I think they don't stay fart and she used to get so offended. Because anytime I meet a little boy, I'm like, did you fart? Did you, did you fart? Did your fart stinks? And Christy will look at me like I'm fucking nuts. Like, why are you saying that? And then she sees a little boy just smile, like, yeah. That was me.
[04:34:25] Unknown:
Yeah.
[04:34:26] Unknown:
You know, they didn't even fart. They're gonna own that. Like, oh, you think that was dunk? Yeah. That was mine. Mine.
[04:34:33] Unknown:
This is the church that doesn't play monopoly. They don't play football. They don't play ping pong. They don't they don't play or imitate, in quotes, air guitar. So I don't think there's a lot. Is the WAF?
[04:34:49] Unknown:
Don't let WAF children play with children outside of WAF?
[04:34:54] Unknown:
Word of faith fellowship. Children are not allowed to play with children outside of word of life.
[04:35:02] Unknown:
I'll make a win and it wafts.
[04:35:04] Unknown:
They don't And don't this is definitely your you're trying to you're trying to contradict turkey on Thanksgiving.
[04:35:11] Unknown:
Right. So 121 says, don't forget to read your Bible before you go to bed. But one of the previous rules reminds you to not read your Bible too much because you might think about it and get your own ideas, and then question Jane, who is the person that will interpret the Bible for you.
[04:35:28] Unknown:
When I see Jane, I'm gonna say.
[04:35:33] Unknown:
You're gonna whistle at Jane and tell her she's beautiful? Yeah. And then she'll say, number 117.
[04:35:40] Unknown:
No. You're not allowed in heaven.
[04:35:43] Unknown:
Yeah. No ATVs or dirt bikes. There's a special rule for African Americans to not shave your head bald. Number 137, don't complain about the list of don'ts. So we're not complaining. We're just reading them to to better understand them. Don't go in the sanctuary with sin in your heart. Remember to deal with the sin in your heart before you go to service. So just deal with it.
[04:36:16] Unknown:
Don't place toilet paper on the roll unless it rolls over the top.
[04:36:22] Unknown:
Most important is 144.
[04:36:24] Unknown:
I agree with that one. That's a real one. Right there. Don't put the toilet paper under the don't you always put it over the top. What psychopath puts toilet paper the other way so it falls down the backside? Who does this? These are the issues we need to deal with.
[04:36:43] Unknown:
This is how you maintain a good fellowship of believers?
[04:36:47] Unknown:
Is that a 145 rules?
[04:36:50] Unknown:
I think there's a few other pages. I don't know if I had them all there.
[04:36:54] Unknown:
144. Don't attack those in authority. It's like Yep. Follow all rules without exception.
[04:37:02] Unknown:
Right. Rules That's a lot of rules.
[04:37:04] Unknown:
It's a lot of rules, and it could mean that there are rule breakers. So to produce a whole generation of rule breakers, you have to have a lot of rules on the books. And I think if there's one thing we learned about the war on drugs, the drugs will always win that war.
[04:37:25] Unknown:
Gabe made a valid point that Jack Handy was the best thing to come out of the nineties. And and yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm gonna have
[04:37:33] Unknown:
to agree with that. Deep dive Yeah. I agree with that. Jack Handy. Mhmm. Yep. Yeah.
[04:37:38] Unknown:
Yeah. What does Jack what does what does Jane say about Jack candies in the bathroom? Are they approved?
[04:37:47] Unknown:
Is that a bucket of KFC gravy, Gordy?
[04:37:53] Unknown:
And he calls it, kefir, but I just say it's yogurt juice. I knew it was yogurt gravy? It was yogurt gravy
[04:38:01] Unknown:
right on the nose. Yogurt gravy. I'm gonna drop off kefir. You birds. Thank you. Thanks, guys. Later, man. Keep on going.
[04:38:09] Unknown:
Take care, man. Good to have you. Too. It's midday care. Right. It's 1 AM. We've been doing this for a little while. Yeah, man. Appreciate you guys. I don't wanna, take up a whole much a whole lot of time later. Oh, no. It's it's open. It's good. Saturday night. It's just a party here.
[04:38:27] Unknown:
I'm going to bed.
[04:38:29] Unknown:
Good night. Thanks for coming. Drugs definitely.
[04:38:34] Unknown:
Drugs definitely won. Daryl Davis has the point of the night.
[04:38:39] Unknown:
Sure. Do you guys have any other notes to bring up? Any memes in the meme bank to share? Any movies that Jane approves of talking about?
[04:38:53] Unknown:
Tomorrow at 7 PM CST on my Keon Tubbs channel on promoting the long awaited, God is a playwright world Study. It's a hero's journey conversation I had with our friend, Joshua DeBrantz and alanmarcus.com. It was a wonderful conversation, and I had to save it from the bowels of the underworld, the underworld to bring to you guys.
[04:39:29] Unknown:
Appreciate that.
[04:39:31] Unknown:
Yeah. Tell us about your digital underworld journey.
[04:39:42] Unknown:
Was it through the, computer Legos game? My Minecraft?
[04:39:51] Unknown:
They're very pixelated. Mhmm.
[04:39:59] Unknown:
Like, in a retro way?
[04:40:01] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[04:40:03] Unknown:
Do you know it's large?
[04:40:07] Unknown:
I have to go on a silk covered road.
[04:40:13] Unknown:
We're talking about the dark web.
[04:40:24] Unknown:
No. I was not.
[04:40:31] Unknown:
Right. So we're in 2023. They've built up systems of government. They've added more and more legislation and laws and rules. People are concerned that TikTok might be banned. There's a lot of concern about laws and rulers and kings and things. I don't know. Giving our attention to that is is, Ronan, the bird dog, was advising us wisely. It's summertime, and the weather's nice, so maybe we could get out and enjoy it.
[04:41:05] Unknown:
Weather's nice where? Oh,
[04:41:08] Unknown:
from here. It's great in Oklahoma.
[04:41:10] Unknown:
Right here.
[04:41:12] Unknown:
That might be the taking nuggets and and gravy. Like, all the fast food establishments give you gravy instead of barbecue sauce. Just so you know. It's a Oakey thing.
[04:41:23] Unknown:
It is a OKIE thing. Gravy is a OKIE thing for sure. I don't know your French fries. My grandparents make the grilled bread.
[04:41:32] Unknown:
I was saying in the, chat when the intermission was going, the the bigger guy here reminded me of when I lived in Texas for a little bit. I was a waitress, and there was this group of 3 people. One of them had, like, oxygen machine, one of them had a peg leg, and one of them had an eye patch. And they just kept asking for gravy, like, because they all ordered chicken fried steak, and they just wanted more dishes of gravy. And so, like, every 5 minutes, I go get them a little scoop of gravy. I was like, how long is this gonna last?
[04:42:17] Unknown:
Maybe in sweet tea. Okay. That's that's my thing. When you go to put sugar in your tea.
[04:42:23] Unknown:
Yeah.
[04:42:24] Unknown:
When you go to a country restaurant and you order the chicken fried steak, it should automatically come with white gravy. It should not have automatically be brown gravy unless specified. It was a few years back before I stopped eating meat. I went to a, country restaurant. And when my when I did eat meat, one of my favorite things was chicken fried steak with white gravy, And I just assumed that was the the the norm. And so I went to this rush this country restaurant with my family, and I ordered the chicken fried steak, and I brought it out with brown gravy on it. And I just stared at it for the longest time. And I was like, what is this monstrosity?
[04:43:16] Unknown:
How am I supposed to eat this shit? But I'd eat it. Still sounds bomb. Dude.
[04:43:26] Unknown:
You are Seriously, like, nope. Yep. But I still eat it, though. I can't I can't eat it. Eat it.
[04:43:34] Unknown:
I mean, I still ate it. I mean, I didn't
[04:43:37] Unknown:
You're not a psychopath.
[04:43:38] Unknown:
It's that's just when it clicked in my head. I'm like, wait.
[04:43:43] Unknown:
There's no Mushroom
[04:43:46] Unknown:
gravy rules. The white gravy rules. The chicken fried steak came with white gravy, not brown. And I was like, why is is this not a universal thing? It is it clicked for me that not everyone thinks this thing about chicken with steak and gravy
[04:44:02] Unknown:
that I did. Speaking of gravy when I grew up. If you're doing gravy after you do your chicken in the crock pot, Like, let the fat drain down in the bottom of the crock pot. Take that take that stuff. Keep it in there. Turn it on hot after you take the chicken out, and then put sweet potato starch in it and just whip it up instead of, wheat so you don't get the glyphosate and all that bullshit. So get sweet potato power or yeah. Or sweet potato flour, and then whisk it into it with, like, pepper and salt and stuff. It makes a great gravy. Like, it's stupid easy, and it's got tons it keeps all the fat.
You're you're ingesting all that fat that's that was in the the bird to begin with. Like, get a good bird. You know? Yeah. And you can still buy them.
[04:44:56] Unknown:
With any kind of meat too. Like, I don't eat pork anymore, but when I did, we made ham gravy one time. That was really good.
[04:45:10] Unknown:
Again, you're conserving all those fats. So hungry.
[04:45:13] Unknown:
Good stuff. Hungry.
[04:45:15] Unknown:
Fix your brain.
[04:45:18] Unknown:
Late at night, and we're talking about food. We're making everybody hungry.
[04:45:23] Unknown:
We added tea to gravy.
[04:45:26] Unknown:
Danny. How many chickens how many chickens remain? We started with 7.
[04:45:31] Unknown:
We still have 1 I think at least one's going in the gravy. I'm just saying.
[04:45:36] Unknown:
And, 206 sex dolls. Is that for 1 for 1 person? Are we, like, going 2 do a doll so we could
[04:45:48] Unknown:
If they're consensual sex dolls Are the dolls filled with the gravy?
[04:45:52] Unknown:
Did we ask enough questions tonight? Not yet, Chris. Did we answer anything? Should we play it out with the,
[04:46:05] Unknown:
solve the problem. I mean, everyone should just know from now on that chicken fried steak comes with white gravy unless specified.
[04:46:12] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's a problem. That's a problem. Unless James says otherwise.
[04:46:19] Unknown:
James You were you were in some alternate dimension where things weren't right. I I don't know, you know, what happened there, Chris, but you're it's good that you came back. Yeah. It was so bizarre. I was like, what is happening?
[04:46:36] Unknown:
That bizarre point of the night where some of us need to eat something. And if we keep talking about gravy without saying anything gravy.
[04:46:51] Unknown:
Until next week, your gravy are mines.
[04:46:54] Unknown:
It's peanut butter. Make some noodles. She said government gravy. After the fight. You gotta wait for Cheney. Yes. She said she's coming in to spider after the fight.
[04:47:04] Unknown:
She said there was one more left. That was a while ago. How many Yeah. That was, like, 10 minutes ago.
[04:47:10] Unknown:
We need to get this guy to take somebody to take a damn dive or something here. Pray for
[04:47:16] Unknown:
Early knockout. Oh, we'll still be in the Zoom room. Back from.
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Welcome to the Melt Podcast Guests
Conspiracy Theories and Personal Histories
Discussion on Sex Dolls and AI
what if the ai acts like a woman?
Mental Health and Societal Issues
gravy break
Royalty and Conspiracy Theories
Community Integrity and Personal Responsibility
