Welcome to the 1st episode of the Value For Value podcast (or as I will occasionally shorten to: v4v). This is the podcast for digital content creators (podcasters/artists/musicians/etc.,) who want to find a way to earn a living without having to rely on the somewhat corrupting influence of advertising or setting up paywalls to block off a portion of your supporters. It is also an experiment for myself to try out the new Podcasting 2.0 tags and see if I can myself walk the walk and not just talk the talk.
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Welcome one and all ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls of every sex nation, creed, gender, whatever it is that you are all are welcome here on the value for value podcast. My name is Kyrin, and I've been a podcaster for about two years now. And I'm trying something new, this is a bit of an experiment in the value for value model. So I will go into depth about what this is and what this podcast is about, and also experimenting with the new 2.0 tags and a new style of podcasting. So strap yourself in because we've got a lot to go over in this first little section. But to explain it, I think I'll go with a pretty easy deterministic way, the five W's and the one H what, who, when, where, why, and finally, the how. So what is the value for value model? What is the value for value podcast. So value for value is a model that sounds financial, but I would argue is more philosophical in nature. So you might be thinking, Oh, it's a transactional type of thing.
I'm going to give value here, and I'm going to receive value in return. And most people when they think of value, they think instantly, money, money, money, money, I'm really interested in money. Well, this is not what this podcast is about. So there's a lot of aspects to explore for this. But it is essentially saying, If I'm putting out things into the world, as an artist, independent creator, whatever it is that you want to describe yourself as, and I honestly have no idea what to describe myself, as I usually stick with podcaster. That's pretty easy. It's essentially a way of doing this without having to rely on advertising. So one of the main problems that you will see in podcasting, and I suppose just in general in life, you can see this on the TV screens on billboards, and even some people in general are just pure advertising machines, they want to get whatever information they have into your face into your ears, so that you will then act on that and by and whatever it is. So the problem with all of this is that one money does have a corrupting tendency. I think we all know this. There is a saying that money is the root of all evil. This is actually isn't correct. I think the correct direct translation or quote from the Bible is the love of money is the root of all evil, but money itself, it does have a corrupting influence. So the value for value model, I initially heard this from the Podfather himself, Adam Curry. So if you haven't heard of Adam Curry before, he is one of the people who helped to invent podcasting, he's been a podcaster himself for geez getting close to two decades now. So he's right up there in terms of legit standard. And I recently came across this this model, and it was something that I was searching for myself, I've always had a really strong dislike of advertising, I really can't stand it on TV or on apps or wherever it is. Because for me, personally, I'm a bit of a minimalist. So all the things being pushed in my face, I need this system, you need this model, you need this new brand new clothing, or whatever it is, I've always just gone. Like, I don't really care, I'll find another way if I have to do that. So there's a lot of things connected to this. So I'll probably explore into why free isn't free, why advertising can be sensorial, I'm not too on board with advertising as pure censorship as Adam Curry might be. But for me, it's it's more of an influence and can be an undue unwanted influence. I'll also be going into what it is to ask for help and ask for value in return for the value that you're providing. As well as you know, valuing your own creations, the interest of others versus yourself, how you can go about creating things in the world and what actually is value. So there's many, many things to go into for that. So stay tuned for that. But essentially, in a one word sort of statement, the value for value model is I'm creating value for other people through whatever it is that I'm doing and expecting value in return for that and, you know, almost demanding value in return for that because free is not free people it is an illusion. And yeah, we'll get into that more the who so this is for podcasters independent musicians, artists, creators of any sort, whoever you are, and you are perhaps creating something for the pleasure for the listening for for other people. This is what this podcast is for. So this is for a I suppose enlightenment on the other aspects there are in the world other than advertising or getting a boss or selling products, or whatever it is, it's almost, you know, asking for value from the people who are getting value from you, essentially. So it's whatever that will be. Adam Curry says you know, your time your talent or treasure so this could be investing time into the product that I'm creating, whether that be in this case, a podcast, or you know, maybe asking for some editing help, could be treasure so this could be or financial rewards or even, you know, non monetary things that are still useful a printing press that can be used to print off some flyers or whatever it is, and then talent. So this is being able to use your talent in effective ways to help the person that you're supporting. So, those are the main who's there for as far as Adam Curry, I've already talked about him a little bit, but if you want to know more about him, you can go onto the no agenda podcast that he runs the it's mo facts with Adam Curry, or where I found him through the podcasting 2.0 podcast. So about me, I would just say I'm a pretty normal dude, if you really want to explore into my background and all of those things, you're best off going on to the mere mortals podcast, or just typing my name in whatever podcast app you're in. And you'll find a couple of conversations or interviews that I've had with other podcasts. So if you really want to go into that, but for me, I'm essentially a normal dude who hates hate advertising and wants to find a new way of, I suppose, being able to live in the world.
So as much as I hate money, and advertising and all topics related to that, I do recognise in this world, you do need to have money to survive, it's not something that you can completely go aesthetic on, you know, go live out in a cave, and all of these things, maybe I could podcast to the birds and the bees, and you know, the bears and all that sort of stuff. But that's probably not going to happen. So we'll go on to the when. So when is this podcast is gonna get released. So hopefully, I will do two releases per week, it's going to be a little bit of a mix of different things, probably most of them will be me speaking into the mic myself. But I also do have other people who I can talk with in terms of other podcasters. So I might bring in some other people. So we'll see on that point. And this is experimental as well. So I am absolutely not committing to, you know, five years, 10 years on podcasting with this one, this is going to, I'm going to see how I go with it. So the were well, for me, I'm in Brisbane, Australia. But this is not limited to where you are in the world. The value for value model is for anyone who is a creator who produces things and wants to, you know, receive recompense for that. Now, there is a lot of onus on you for creating valuable things. So if you're creating a shit thing that no one wants to listen to, well, don't be surprised if you get shit things in return. So it does require a lot of effort on your part. But it's also, you know, finding that middle balance between, like I said, sort of being an aesthetic, not caring, not, you know, producing things only for your own pleasure. And then the opposite side of that coin, which is let's just say the pop sort of music realm where you are producing things for the masses. It's solely for other people.
This is I guess, would say for people in between who create things for themselves for others and want to be able to live in the world without having to rely on the undue effect of of advertising and all these other things. So why, well, why I created this podcast is for many reasons, there always seems to be a myriad of reasons why people create things and start things. So for myself, personally, I really want to try out the podcasting 2.0 tags. So if you're listening to this, I would suggest that you go look for a listen to this in a podcasting 2.0 app. So you can find that new podcast apps.com.
I'll list off a few, a few right here. So you could find it in pod friend curio caster pod bursts. The list goes on and on. There's many, many pod guru I think is one as well. So if you want that, and you want to experience everything that this podcast has to offer, because I will be inserting pictures and clips and links and all sorts of things, transcripts, probably to make this the bed best podcast I can. And to do that I need to use the 2.0 tag. So if you're doing that, have a look. See and you'll you'll see something maybe a bit interesting that you haven't seen before on a podcast. And I suppose it's for helping myself my own thoughts to realize what is the value for value model. So I've only come across this recently. And I'm still trying to get in my own head some of the things that are required for it. So for example, I've always been very hesitant to ask things of my audience, so of the people listening now, this can be a double edged sword because sometimes I do want to know, hey, am I actually doing something that you want to hear about? Do you like those sound effects do would you prefer if I cut out all this noise or you prefer the background? Round noise? Do you prefer having some sort of way to interact with me or do you want to stay off at a distance?
There's so many different things. Now the value for value, it does require you to ask for value back. You can't just expect it. This is not just a free ride where everything works out really well. No you have to put the effort in and the time and that's going to be something that's difficult for makes I really hate asking things of people, I especially hate telling people to do things, but just underneath that is asking. So there's going to be quite a few things that I'm going to have to wrap my own head around and, and learn, I guess, in this own process, and it's almost a documentation to see if I can do it. So Adam Curry has blazed the path and and produced a this model and has shown it possible but I have not heard of very many other people being able to do something similar. So for me, for my part, I really want to see if I can replicate that, that doesn't have to be just through this, it could be through the main models podcast, the main models, book reviews, the Reseñas In Spanglish all the other things that I'm doing.
So there's quite a few bundles into why this podcast is being created. And then finally the house. So I definitely like freeform things I really, sometimes I will cut and put in things. And if I say something really stupid, I might have to do a cut then. But me personally, I prefer listening to long form, unedited, because then you get everything that there is there. So yes, this will include maybe some things you wouldn't like to hear, there might be some silences. There might be some umms and errs and likes, there might even be a little bit of background noise and some editing that maybe isn't super good. If I'm getting other people on all of these sorts of things. I can't control everything. So that is the how form I guess of it. I would, like I mentioned want to try and get some other podcasters. But I also would like some suggestions feedback. So if there's something that you particularly want to hear, I'm more than willing to, to consider it in, in the terms of it being a good idea or something that I think might be a good idea that I haven't my own brain has not created. So there's many different ways to do this. And it will be an evolving process. So don't expect one just thing at the moment. This is the first episode come down, people haven't sorted it all out yet. So that is a lot to expect from me, I guess. So expect lots of references to books to podcasting. 2.0 probably even cryptocurrency and communication, social media, all those sorts of things. So it will be wrapped up in this because it is the documentation process of it as well. So I will be telling you how I'm going to try and go about creating value for value model, some strategic decisions, as well as the philosophical ones, it's going to be a whole bundle of things. One thing I would just like to point out here is do not expect a lot of talk about money, money, money, money, I really hate the word monetization. This is right up there in terms of pet peeves, pet words that I hate pivot was the top ranked one for quite a while authenticity was pretty close up there. I would also include in their manifesting potentially, but I think monetization has taken top dollar for me now I really hate how I'm hearing everything needs to be turned into some sort of monetization, your side gig your side hustle that thing you do over there your hobby, how can I monetize this half an hour? Yeah, I really hate it. So even though this is the value for value podcast, do not expect it to be centered about money. Because I actually find that the least interesting thing of podcasting of even life in general, it's a very, very important part of life, I totally understand that. But in terms of interest levels, for me, it is way down the ranks. So do not expect a whole lot of talk about how to make money in here, for example, there will not be a lot of talk about that. Most mostly it's going to be about value, which is if we're all thinking in our rational minds, money is such a weird thing. You know, how is it that this piece of paper is related to how does this actually have value, you know, it's the concept we all create.
So putting that out there, the value for value podcast will not be about money entirely. There will be small snippets of it. And other than that, I really hope that you enjoyed this little section and I hope you enjoy what's to come. So there will be as I said a couple of releases I have as of yet not provided so much value for you. So I really don't want to ask for any value in return just yet. But one thing I would just say is if you are listening to this a podcasting 2.0 app, you will get more value from it. If you listening to that on a podcasting 2.0 app instead of the big ones, you know who they all are. And other than that, I really just hope you have a fantastic day wherever you are in the world. This is Kyrin signing out for the first episode Yee ha
Welcome one and all ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls of every sex nation, creed, gender, whatever it is that you are all are welcome here on the value for value podcast. My name is Kyrin, and I've been a podcaster for about two years now. And I'm trying something new, this is a bit of an experiment in the value for value model. So I will go into depth about what this is and what this podcast is about, and also experimenting with the new 2.0 tags and a new style of podcasting. So strap yourself in because we've got a lot to go over in this first little section. But to explain it, I think I'll go with a pretty easy deterministic way, the five W's and the one H what, who, when, where, why, and finally, the how. So what is the value for value model? What is the value for value podcast. So value for value is a model that sounds financial, but I would argue is more philosophical in nature. So you might be thinking, Oh, it's a transactional type of thing.
I'm going to give value here, and I'm going to receive value in return. And most people when they think of value, they think instantly, money, money, money, money, I'm really interested in money. Well, this is not what this podcast is about. So there's a lot of aspects to explore for this. But it is essentially saying, If I'm putting out things into the world, as an artist, independent creator, whatever it is that you want to describe yourself as, and I honestly have no idea what to describe myself, as I usually stick with podcaster. That's pretty easy. It's essentially a way of doing this without having to rely on advertising. So one of the main problems that you will see in podcasting, and I suppose just in general in life, you can see this on the TV screens on billboards, and even some people in general are just pure advertising machines, they want to get whatever information they have into your face into your ears, so that you will then act on that and by and whatever it is. So the problem with all of this is that one money does have a corrupting tendency. I think we all know this. There is a saying that money is the root of all evil. This is actually isn't correct. I think the correct direct translation or quote from the Bible is the love of money is the root of all evil, but money itself, it does have a corrupting influence. So the value for value model, I initially heard this from the Podfather himself, Adam Curry. So if you haven't heard of Adam Curry before, he is one of the people who helped to invent podcasting, he's been a podcaster himself for geez getting close to two decades now. So he's right up there in terms of legit standard. And I recently came across this this model, and it was something that I was searching for myself, I've always had a really strong dislike of advertising, I really can't stand it on TV or on apps or wherever it is. Because for me, personally, I'm a bit of a minimalist. So all the things being pushed in my face, I need this system, you need this model, you need this new brand new clothing, or whatever it is, I've always just gone. Like, I don't really care, I'll find another way if I have to do that. So there's a lot of things connected to this. So I'll probably explore into why free isn't free, why advertising can be sensorial, I'm not too on board with advertising as pure censorship as Adam Curry might be. But for me, it's it's more of an influence and can be an undue unwanted influence. I'll also be going into what it is to ask for help and ask for value in return for the value that you're providing. As well as you know, valuing your own creations, the interest of others versus yourself, how you can go about creating things in the world and what actually is value. So there's many, many things to go into for that. So stay tuned for that. But essentially, in a one word sort of statement, the value for value model is I'm creating value for other people through whatever it is that I'm doing and expecting value in return for that and, you know, almost demanding value in return for that because free is not free people it is an illusion. And yeah, we'll get into that more the who so this is for podcasters independent musicians, artists, creators of any sort, whoever you are, and you are perhaps creating something for the pleasure for the listening for for other people. This is what this podcast is for. So this is for a I suppose enlightenment on the other aspects there are in the world other than advertising or getting a boss or selling products, or whatever it is, it's almost, you know, asking for value from the people who are getting value from you, essentially. So it's whatever that will be. Adam Curry says you know, your time your talent or treasure so this could be investing time into the product that I'm creating, whether that be in this case, a podcast, or you know, maybe asking for some editing help, could be treasure so this could be or financial rewards or even, you know, non monetary things that are still useful a printing press that can be used to print off some flyers or whatever it is, and then talent. So this is being able to use your talent in effective ways to help the person that you're supporting. So, those are the main who's there for as far as Adam Curry, I've already talked about him a little bit, but if you want to know more about him, you can go onto the no agenda podcast that he runs the it's mo facts with Adam Curry, or where I found him through the podcasting 2.0 podcast. So about me, I would just say I'm a pretty normal dude, if you really want to explore into my background and all of those things, you're best off going on to the mere mortals podcast, or just typing my name in whatever podcast app you're in. And you'll find a couple of conversations or interviews that I've had with other podcasts. So if you really want to go into that, but for me, I'm essentially a normal dude who hates hate advertising and wants to find a new way of, I suppose, being able to live in the world.
So as much as I hate money, and advertising and all topics related to that, I do recognise in this world, you do need to have money to survive, it's not something that you can completely go aesthetic on, you know, go live out in a cave, and all of these things, maybe I could podcast to the birds and the bees, and you know, the bears and all that sort of stuff. But that's probably not going to happen. So we'll go on to the when. So when is this podcast is gonna get released. So hopefully, I will do two releases per week, it's going to be a little bit of a mix of different things, probably most of them will be me speaking into the mic myself. But I also do have other people who I can talk with in terms of other podcasters. So I might bring in some other people. So we'll see on that point. And this is experimental as well. So I am absolutely not committing to, you know, five years, 10 years on podcasting with this one, this is going to, I'm going to see how I go with it. So the were well, for me, I'm in Brisbane, Australia. But this is not limited to where you are in the world. The value for value model is for anyone who is a creator who produces things and wants to, you know, receive recompense for that. Now, there is a lot of onus on you for creating valuable things. So if you're creating a shit thing that no one wants to listen to, well, don't be surprised if you get shit things in return. So it does require a lot of effort on your part. But it's also, you know, finding that middle balance between, like I said, sort of being an aesthetic, not caring, not, you know, producing things only for your own pleasure. And then the opposite side of that coin, which is let's just say the pop sort of music realm where you are producing things for the masses. It's solely for other people.
This is I guess, would say for people in between who create things for themselves for others and want to be able to live in the world without having to rely on the undue effect of of advertising and all these other things. So why, well, why I created this podcast is for many reasons, there always seems to be a myriad of reasons why people create things and start things. So for myself, personally, I really want to try out the podcasting 2.0 tags. So if you're listening to this, I would suggest that you go look for a listen to this in a podcasting 2.0 app. So you can find that new podcast apps.com.
I'll list off a few, a few right here. So you could find it in pod friend curio caster pod bursts. The list goes on and on. There's many, many pod guru I think is one as well. So if you want that, and you want to experience everything that this podcast has to offer, because I will be inserting pictures and clips and links and all sorts of things, transcripts, probably to make this the bed best podcast I can. And to do that I need to use the 2.0 tag. So if you're doing that, have a look. See and you'll you'll see something maybe a bit interesting that you haven't seen before on a podcast. And I suppose it's for helping myself my own thoughts to realize what is the value for value model. So I've only come across this recently. And I'm still trying to get in my own head some of the things that are required for it. So for example, I've always been very hesitant to ask things of my audience, so of the people listening now, this can be a double edged sword because sometimes I do want to know, hey, am I actually doing something that you want to hear about? Do you like those sound effects do would you prefer if I cut out all this noise or you prefer the background? Round noise? Do you prefer having some sort of way to interact with me or do you want to stay off at a distance?
There's so many different things. Now the value for value, it does require you to ask for value back. You can't just expect it. This is not just a free ride where everything works out really well. No you have to put the effort in and the time and that's going to be something that's difficult for makes I really hate asking things of people, I especially hate telling people to do things, but just underneath that is asking. So there's going to be quite a few things that I'm going to have to wrap my own head around and, and learn, I guess, in this own process, and it's almost a documentation to see if I can do it. So Adam Curry has blazed the path and and produced a this model and has shown it possible but I have not heard of very many other people being able to do something similar. So for me, for my part, I really want to see if I can replicate that, that doesn't have to be just through this, it could be through the main models podcast, the main models, book reviews, the Reseñas In Spanglish all the other things that I'm doing.
So there's quite a few bundles into why this podcast is being created. And then finally the house. So I definitely like freeform things I really, sometimes I will cut and put in things. And if I say something really stupid, I might have to do a cut then. But me personally, I prefer listening to long form, unedited, because then you get everything that there is there. So yes, this will include maybe some things you wouldn't like to hear, there might be some silences. There might be some umms and errs and likes, there might even be a little bit of background noise and some editing that maybe isn't super good. If I'm getting other people on all of these sorts of things. I can't control everything. So that is the how form I guess of it. I would, like I mentioned want to try and get some other podcasters. But I also would like some suggestions feedback. So if there's something that you particularly want to hear, I'm more than willing to, to consider it in, in the terms of it being a good idea or something that I think might be a good idea that I haven't my own brain has not created. So there's many different ways to do this. And it will be an evolving process. So don't expect one just thing at the moment. This is the first episode come down, people haven't sorted it all out yet. So that is a lot to expect from me, I guess. So expect lots of references to books to podcasting. 2.0 probably even cryptocurrency and communication, social media, all those sorts of things. So it will be wrapped up in this because it is the documentation process of it as well. So I will be telling you how I'm going to try and go about creating value for value model, some strategic decisions, as well as the philosophical ones, it's going to be a whole bundle of things. One thing I would just like to point out here is do not expect a lot of talk about money, money, money, money, I really hate the word monetization. This is right up there in terms of pet peeves, pet words that I hate pivot was the top ranked one for quite a while authenticity was pretty close up there. I would also include in their manifesting potentially, but I think monetization has taken top dollar for me now I really hate how I'm hearing everything needs to be turned into some sort of monetization, your side gig your side hustle that thing you do over there your hobby, how can I monetize this half an hour? Yeah, I really hate it. So even though this is the value for value podcast, do not expect it to be centered about money. Because I actually find that the least interesting thing of podcasting of even life in general, it's a very, very important part of life, I totally understand that. But in terms of interest levels, for me, it is way down the ranks. So do not expect a whole lot of talk about how to make money in here, for example, there will not be a lot of talk about that. Most mostly it's going to be about value, which is if we're all thinking in our rational minds, money is such a weird thing. You know, how is it that this piece of paper is related to how does this actually have value, you know, it's the concept we all create.
So putting that out there, the value for value podcast will not be about money entirely. There will be small snippets of it. And other than that, I really hope that you enjoyed this little section and I hope you enjoy what's to come. So there will be as I said a couple of releases I have as of yet not provided so much value for you. So I really don't want to ask for any value in return just yet. But one thing I would just say is if you are listening to this a podcasting 2.0 app, you will get more value from it. If you listening to that on a podcasting 2.0 app instead of the big ones, you know who they all are. And other than that, I really just hope you have a fantastic day wherever you are in the world. This is Kyrin signing out for the first episode Yee ha
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