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In Ep #26 we are covering how Claudiu Chereji uses v4v on his show 'The Claudcast'. Claudiu reads out niche documents/books whilst also fleshing out his own ideas in monologue form. The unique aspect he brings is by highlighting how unique his own show actually is and why this is deserving of value from the niche group of people who are interested in this exact thing.
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New ideas and writtenword in an audio format that you just won't findelsewhere. Welcome everyoneto another episode of The Valueof Value podcast. My name is Kyrin and host of this show,obviously, but also of the MereMortals podcast and Mere Mortalsbook reviews. And this is the podcastwhere we dive deep into the valuefor value model. What is this new wayof interacting in the, let's callit Web3 sort of world, if you want, whereessentially getting away from the standardadvertising model. So instead of making moneyfrom the indirectly via peoplelistening in and, you know, taking their data and causing a lot of the unhealthy practicesthat we see in the current Internetand world, the value for value modelis essentially directly asking your audiencefor value.
So you produce valueand then you ask your audience to return that. And there are many ways of doing this, and this is what we're going to examinein another episode where we're diving deepinto a particular podcast that runs the valuefor value model and seeing how they think do things, how maybe they createsome unique ways of doing it, their valuefor value implementation and what the showis about as well. So today I have for youthe Claudcast This is by a man by the name of I'mgoing to butcher this name,a Claudio Shivaji, although he is definitely American,so probably don't need to add that accent on.
And from the bio of his own podcast,it says, Got some ideas and I'm readingsome books and articles that probably won't ever get to be an audio formon other platforms. So this is a showwhere he dives into a coupleof different things. So I'll read outa couple of the current podcaststhat he has. So he has ideas. I had 001 The Pie White Paper Pretty facean introduction. He's got another ideassection, model, Barb and modern Bible versions,the love of money, and then talkinga little bit about my first full episode and first boostagram, etc., etc.. So he's got about 15episodes at the moment with these rangingin length, depending on the topic.
So his ideas one,for example, they're typically in the10 to 20 minutes range. Quite a few of themare based on this pie white paper idea seriesthat he has, which typically aroundthe five ish minutes long and then a couple ofthe later episodeshave been a bit longer, getting more than halfan hour and an hour. And essentiallythat is what it is. So he'sobviously interested in this sort of cryptocurrency blockchain world. So there's a bunch ofexcerpts here where he is speaking directly from athe Pie white whitepaper. So this is wherehe's actually reading out written wordfrom a document and then putting itinto audio format.
The idea sections are moreof a little bit more about his lifeand particularly relating to how you couldperhaps use a form of, you know, blockchain or some sortof cryptocurrency to incentivise your kidsto do homework or to do choresor things like this. The this would be inthe episode ideas. I had numberthree chalkboard and then there'sother ones where he's obviously reading out different versions of theBible, things like this. So it's sort of an eclecticmix I guess of, of different topicsand episodes that he's got goingon there now. He actually messaged me a boostagramon the last episode asking for meto review his podcast.
And so here I am. And so here I shall do it. So let's get into his valuefor value implementation. Now this podcasthas been around for a super long time,I think less than a year. If I go to the first episode,it was produced on the January of 2022,so about six months and is obviously still trying to find his own particular method ofof creating the podcast. What it is that he actually wants to dowith it. Totally understandablein the sort of, I guess you'd call itgrowing pains of starting a podcast, but this is typically howhe will add to his value for value pitch is it's a little bitdifferent, I guess,because he's got a couple of things going on.
One is he's reading outcontent directly from a, a piece of paper or from a computeror something like that. So it's something that's already been writtenand he's reading it out directly, putting it intoaudio format. Now, this, I guess, produces a challengethat it's not going to be perhaps natural for him to then add on something elseto the end, i.e. him talking about valuefor value, which is kind ofwhat you need to do. You need to makeyour audience aware of it. Otherwise, you know, they just simplywon't know about it. So you need to make the pitch of whythis is here.
So some of his episodes,I notice he didn't have any sort of value for valueimplementation at all or any talking about it. It was simplyjust his the episode. But then I guess this is where it's kind of coolwhere he can mix in maybe on the morefreeform ones where he'stalking about his ideas. This is where it fits ina little bit more nicely. So I'm going to playthis little section here and there's going to be a few clips,a few different clips from this podcast, so bear with me as I'mswitching through them. But this is fromthe Love of Money episode at around 15,around the 16 minute mark.
Being that this podcastis value for value, though no one can tellme to stop, no one can threaten me to stop. I don'tthink anyone would, but you never know. And no one can ever take this down,which is just wonderful. So having said all that,I follow the three TS that are soon to be recorded in the manifestothat will be written by Adam Clark Curryon how to live a truly valuefor value existence. And that will be, like I said,recorded by yours truly, just like everything elsethat I record for the general public and will be recordingfor the general public, I will put in audio formall of the all of the thingsthat would never be recorded in audio form.
I thought,you know what, tangent? I thought, you know. Okay,so he goes on a bit of a tangent there, but you can see thereone of the things he does is really highlight what it isthat he's doing that you won't findelsewhere, i.e. I'm going to create audio form,so I'm going to read out written words that you probablyare not going to find anywhere elsebecause they're going to be small. So he's not particularlygoing after a super famous bookand reading that out. No, it's a lot more niche and it's alot more specific. So one of the thingsthat that's really cool, I like that he does that,unfortunately.
I suppose one of thecritiques I would have of this is that hethen goes on to talk for about another twoand a half minutes without getting directlyinto what is time, talent and treasure the three TS and how you canparticularly support him. So, you know,this is one of those ones where it's kind of a mix, right? You want to emphasise what it is, the valuethat you're producing, but then also tryingto emphasise as well how other peoplecan send that back to you. And I supposetrying to find that, that mix, that balancebecause you know, in his case,for example, you probably would want to highlightright at the front, okay, this is what I'm doingthat's kind of unique,that's different.
And so, you know, really making that,I suppose visible, transparent,bringing it right up to the surface isdefinitely a good thing. But, you know, you do have to mix that in with how people can get back to you, how they cangive back to you by the time and talentand treasure and whatnot. Now, I'm going to jump onto another episode here. So this is fromhis first full EP, first full episodeand first boostagram around the 29minutes, 47 seconds. Mark But before beforewe round out the Value for Value segment, I want to talk about myvery first boostagram got my first one.
Let's talk aboutthe guy who gave it to me. This name is hard for me to pronouncebecause I'm not sure if I'm going to pronounceit wrong. It's spelledPetar could be Petar, but it's Petar. That's his handleright there. So if I'm pronouncing itwrong, that sucks. But you can set it at a booster groundto tell me if I'm wrong. But he donated 1222 SATs, so that's actually surprising to methat I got that. But he donatedon the 25th, so this has been awhile coming. So this I'm going to jump forwardbecause once again, he sort of delaysa little bit. There's a little bit of sort of 30 secondsor it's not super useful not telling us exactlywhat needs to go.
So perhaps being a bitmore short and snappy. But obviously he's got his first boostagramso he reads out typically this isthis is how people do it. You read out the person who sent it in,acknowledging who it is. Everyone likes to heartheir name being produced on a on aon an episode like, wow, like I made it in. This is kind of cool,you know, really, you know whypeople go to sports matches and hold up signsthat they can get on the Jumbotron,you know, like, what the hell is the pointof that? Well, you know, it'skind of cool. You liketo see yourself up there and it's sort of likebragging rights.
Well, look,look what I did so that he doesthat correctly. Reading out the amountis usually useful as well, because sometimes there's sort of numerologyattached to it. When you have a bitmore of an audience, you can sort ofdecipher it by, okay, these are the peoplewho are sending the most back. I it's sort of like a it's a way of valuingthe message. They really wanttheir message. And so they've sentin this this portion here,which is higher than everyone else. I'm going to perhapsget to this first because perhaps there is a signal that can be used to show that this is indeedmore important.
Now, this is perhapsa section where I would say maybe this is not the way you would read outyour very first boostagram That's come in. I'd like to readhis boostagram He says, as someonewho's been operating power grids for 17 years,I hate to tell you, you got all the thingswrong here. ERCOT and a Visser are not equivalent typeorganisations. Texas has plenty of coalplants which also fail. Capacitors don't storepower batteries which are still largelyVapourware can and do respondextremely quickly to stabilisegen and load balance. I'm sorry, no know he did not read itlike that, I'll bet.
No, no he didn't. He says okay, and thenhe goes on to read it and in a more normal voice now goddamn, that'sa fucking risky behaviour. Either I love it,I love it. So look, very ballsyway of reading out your very firstboostagram Um, it's, it's, this is, I guess, one of the challenges with the internet, of course, and writtenword is that it's you don't get the contextbehind the intonation and whatnot. Thankfully for him, Peter, who's a bloody legend too,and as you'll notice, this name cropping upbecause he boosts a lot of these types of showsand he is a cool guy and so subsequentlyeven sort of apologised in the in the laterBoostagram for, for sending in somethingthat could be misconstrued as being arrogantor whatnot when he was actually just trying to say like heyyou got some information wrongin your latest episode.
And this is why I knowbecause I work in the energy sector,etc., etc., etc.. But there you go. That's the way that Claude, Claudio, Claude,you reads out and does his valuefor value implementation. I guess it's I suppose you could also putthat in the unique section which is coming upin a second. So that's a reallya uniquely very Yeah. Variablesthe way of reading out your first boostagrambut he does go on to sort of say it in a in an in a normal mannerand thank you Petar in I suppose a more,more traditional way but yeah getting on tosome unique things. Look, the podcast itself hasn't been aroundfor a super long time and unlike some of theprevious episodes which are more establishedlike Bowl After Bowl podcasting 2.0,or even I guess the SLIEK podcast too, that they've, they've just dived inand you know, they're creating some really coolthings related to levels of support and merchandiseand things like that.
This one I wouldn't sayis as anything particularly stand out, but he did mention thisin the episode. It's my podcast and I'll cry if I want to around the 122 markand I'll play this and this will bring upan idea that I think is kind of unique in a wayand will help to explain a little bitmore about the value. I wanted to give Petar his credit for hisvery first donation, and it's crazy. It still is crazy to methat I got a donation of any sort because I think I said this in mylast in my last podcast, I don't haveor I didn't have. Yes. I never had anyonespeak to me on the topics that I would put up.
And most of my topicswere just Bible studies. But even thenI set up an email, I set up a website,I set up everything I possibly could to make this work outwell to where someone that may havehad a grouse with me would be ableto speak about it. Let me knowwhat the issue was and I would give themplenty of time of day, even invite them on to aco recording so they could tell mehow wrong I was and why. But I never had anything. And now,thanks to podcasting 2.0, not only doI get interaction, but I get paid for it. It's wonderful. Like, obviously it'snothing to write home about currently because it's my veryfirst donation and it was, I mean, converted with current Bitcoin prices,it was like $0.39.
But that's not the point. The pointis someone valued there, someone valued the showwell enough to value their own message to the show,enough to give me money. Yeah. So there'sa couple of things I want to examinefrom there. First of all, you know, that'sa really cool way of showing, I guess, your ownappreciation, right? So he, he,he talks about how he was havingsome difficulties, some struggles,you know, trying to gain some sort of audienceor some traction or even justthe continual feeling. I'll continuallybring this up, which is when you first starting outand even can be when you've been doing itfor a long time, it feels likenothing is happening.
And to a certain extent it is because no one'slistening. It takes, it takes time, it takes traction,it takes effort. And one of the things thatreally takes is putting yourself out there, but not in the mannerthat you're thinking. And so here'sa little recent experience that I've had in real life that I thinkhighlights this a bit. So the other day I was walking aroundin Southbank, which is here in Brisbane,is sort of just an area which gets a lot of foottraffic. You know, that'sit's right near the river. There's connectionsto a couple of different universitiesaround the bridges.
So all sorts ofgood things. And there wasthis guy who had set up a set himselfup at the base of one of these bridges,and I was walking past and he was essentiallyshouting and he was just shouting about all sortsof different things. It was kind oflike a street preacher. But he was also, you know, talking aboutpolitics a little bit. It was it was a little bitof everything. And you look you couldlook at this guy and say, okay,what's going on here? You know, he'sputting in so much effort. He's taken the timeto physically locate himselfto this place.
I believe he had somepamphlets of some sort. He was putting energy into his voice,into his actions. And he was, you know, speaking directly to to people, butalso to a general audience at the same time. And you could go,you know, why isn't this guygetting traction? And the reason isbecause he was, you know,a little bit crazy. But it's it was mostly his method ofcommunication was the thing he could have beenspouting wisdom, the universe and I still would havewalked straight past him because he was not doing it in a waythat made me really think, okay, he's thoughtnot only long and hard about the message itself,but also how to get the message across.
And so this is the pointwhere you need to go to othersto be honest. And Claude, as Claudiu has somewhat realised this in a way,one I guess you could say is by going to podcastingto point out. So he's found a little bit of a communitythere is he's found that okay,not only do I need to to produce the podcastand put it out there, but that's,that's not enough. Like I need to be ableto get people interested in it, or at least enoughto check it out. And then perhaps,you know, that that check in, thatchecking it out, give it a chance to to do somevalue for value with that.
But I need to do thatin a way that's not just makes me feellike I'm doing something. It's actuallydoing something. And so I've actually seen hishis handle on a bunch of different places. I've seen himBoostagramming a bunch ofdifferent places. And so it's sort ofno surprise to me that Petarhas come across him at some point,obviously, and, and then decidedto send a boost agram in. So once again,it's not just with value for valueit's it's not even you could have, you know,totally be on board with the model valuefor value help. Hell yeah, I don't want todo advertising.
I don't want to dopaywalls. This is the wayI want to go. Brilliant. You know, that's a very important step of the processof understanding the model itself and andperhaps how you can do it. You can then say, Perfect,I want to run this for, you know,not even just a podcast. This could be for musichas, as I covered recentlyon decentralised music on the Mere Mortals podcast, which has been a couple of episodesI've done on that. But you could also do itfor help, even like the wayClaudio is doing it with reading outwritten content, which perhaps you might sayis, Oh, this is more of anaudio book rather than a podcast.
You know, whatever gripe you can, you can makethose distinctions, but it's not enoughto just produce it. You have to be willing to interactwith other people and perhaps you might not do valuefor value with them in the sense of directly,you know, paying satoshis for someone. It's not like it's like, hey, I'm going to pay you. So no, nowcome check out my thing. Now you can do this ina bunch of different ways. You can go onto amastodon account, you can like I used to do, listento people's podcast, leave them a reviewon Apple Podcasts, and then tell themthat you left that review and do it in a nice way.
Not in a way saying like,Hey, come check out mine. But you know,that's how I gained a bit of tractionwhen I was very first getting into podcastingand before I knew about wellbefore even podcasting 2.0 existed. So this I guessis the, the something unique section,which is he brings upa really good point there of it's, it'snot just enough to do it. You have to you have to think aboutwhat it is you're doing. You have to add a bit that extra layerof thought onto it. So make your contentgreat as well. But you know, spending thatlittle bit of extra time and thinking about,okay, now how can I get thisin front of people in a waythat's not spammy, that's not annoying, that's not perhaps payingfor it in a huge lump sum way, and buying botsand buying followers and things like that.
No, it's you have to you have to spenda bit of time. You have to spenda bit of thought in that. So that's thethe final section I wanted to bring up herefrom the cloud cast, which I did enjoytuning into today. Actually, this is where I, I spend a lot of my timeand this morning just examining how he's doing itand what he's doing. So let's go on to my ownsection of the Boosta gram Lounge and see what people havebeen sending in to me. Welcometo the Value for Value. Boostagram Lounge. Yes, yes, yes. So we are into the Boosta gram Lounge now, and I've got a coupleof here to read out, which is very exciting.
As always, I do enjoy getting into these sort of topicsand seeing what people, their responseto my own podcast. So the very first one hereis from Brando Sellers, and he sends this usingFountain 31,250 god dayum. Thank you, my friend. Very cool. So you will recognise thatname. It's because I hadI reviewed his show on the previous episodeof the Value for Value podcast and he says, I'mpretty sure I stole the leaderboardfrom you lol. Thanks for featuring uson this episode. So yeah, this is one of the funny thingswhere it's, you know, I didn't even realiseI had an influence on him, so he had obviously tunedinto a live stream that I wasdoing at some point where myself and oneand this is on the Mere Mortals podcast had been sort ofusing some of the data in a not particularlyaesthetic way, but going throughsome of the data and really highlighting like,Oh, these are the people have beensupporting us the most and it had a leaderboard format,but not in a not in a visually appealing way.
So they tookthat idea, ran with it, and then I really stolethat idea back from me, which is kind of cool.I love that. I love this sort of stuff.So thank you very much. Brando Sellers. And yes, for everyone wondering, he is the ownerof the Strangest Life I've Ever Known Podcast,The Sliek podcast. Go check it out. The infamous Petarstrikes again with the 2084 SATs, and he saysvictory will be mine. Oh, yes. And so that is inreference to the leaderboardwhere I took command of the leadership. I can now tell you thatI am no longerthe Lizard King, which painsme to say, but, you know, I felt like I always enjoyed quoting that Simpsons quotewhere Lisa’s on meds note, she's takena bunch of random meds at a theme parkand has a towel on her, shivering and goes,I am the lizard queen.
So yes, I am. If I'm not the LizardKing, perhapsI can be the Lizard queen. Petar, I hope you havea nice comfy bed for me. And then this is honestly one of the mostexciting ones. So this is froma very new person who's goes underthe handle of blogging. Bitcoin once again sentusing Fountain 938 sets and he says, Dude, this is the mostinteresting way of selling t shirtsI've ever heard. Great podcast. Hey, thank you very much.Mr. Blogging Bitcoin. I'm going to gocheck out that handle afterwards and see what it isthat they actually do. I imagine they blog about bitcoin,which is a very exciting thing and yes, once again,like these, you know, the showstarting to pick up.
I really love it. I think that Brando Boost was the biggest oneI've had so far as well. So, man, a bloody legend. Thank you so much for thatin terms of just a boosting amount. So I was reading them out, by the way,just in terms of when they actually camein, rather than ordering themby amounts, there was only three. So, you know, it's not a the biggest deal for me to to read themin a particular order. But if I startgetting a bit more, you know, I probably will make the extra effortto sort them by amounts coming in. So with that being said, we've cometo the end of the the Valuefor Value podcast and I just really want tothank everyone for, for tuning intoto this far.
You know it's, it's, it's a little bitof a journey getting into this,spending the time and effort researching butit's it is a lot of fun. So my value for value request todaywould be to do exactly what I've been doingand what obviously Petar's been doing. And to a certain extentwhat Claudiu has been doing,which is to to get out thereand not only listen to perhaps a podcast, which you'venever listened to before, maybe somethinga bit niche, maybe it'sjust starting up. Someone who would reallyappreciate definitely the the interactionand getting something for the very first time.
You could hear the excitement in his voicewhere he he got as hisvery first boostagram and, you know, sendingsome value to them, whether it be critical, whether it bea good thing, whether it be a bad thing, even just any sort offeedback is always appreciatedby those small people. And I'd know thatbecause I've been there, I've been theremany a time and it really isa wonderful thing to be able to brightensomeone's day like that. So that's, that'smy request for today. You go outthere, send some value to someonewho's deserving of it and until the next timethis is Kyrin and the Value for valuepodcast, check it out.
New ideas and writtenword in an audio format that you just won't findelsewhere. Welcome everyoneto another episode of The Valueof Value podcast. My name is Kyrin and host of this show,obviously, but also of the MereMortals podcast and Mere Mortalsbook reviews. And this is the podcastwhere we dive deep into the valuefor value model. What is this new wayof interacting in the, let's callit Web3 sort of world, if you want, whereessentially getting away from the standardadvertising model. So instead of making moneyfrom the indirectly via peoplelistening in and, you know, taking their data and causing a lot of the unhealthy practicesthat we see in the current Internetand world, the value for value modelis essentially directly asking your audiencefor value.
So you produce valueand then you ask your audience to return that. And there are many ways of doing this, and this is what we're going to examinein another episode where we're diving deepinto a particular podcast that runs the valuefor value model and seeing how they think do things, how maybe they createsome unique ways of doing it, their valuefor value implementation and what the showis about as well. So today I have for youthe Claudcast This is by a man by the name of I'mgoing to butcher this name,a Claudio Shivaji, although he is definitely American,so probably don't need to add that accent on.
And from the bio of his own podcast,it says, Got some ideas and I'm readingsome books and articles that probably won't ever get to be an audio formon other platforms. So this is a showwhere he dives into a coupleof different things. So I'll read outa couple of the current podcaststhat he has. So he has ideas. I had 001 The Pie White Paper Pretty facean introduction. He's got another ideassection, model, Barb and modern Bible versions,the love of money, and then talkinga little bit about my first full episode and first boostagram, etc., etc.. So he's got about 15episodes at the moment with these rangingin length, depending on the topic.
So his ideas one,for example, they're typically in the10 to 20 minutes range. Quite a few of themare based on this pie white paper idea seriesthat he has, which typically aroundthe five ish minutes long and then a couple ofthe later episodeshave been a bit longer, getting more than halfan hour and an hour. And essentiallythat is what it is. So he'sobviously interested in this sort of cryptocurrency blockchain world. So there's a bunch ofexcerpts here where he is speaking directly from athe Pie white whitepaper. So this is wherehe's actually reading out written wordfrom a document and then putting itinto audio format.
The idea sections are moreof a little bit more about his lifeand particularly relating to how you couldperhaps use a form of, you know, blockchain or some sortof cryptocurrency to incentivise your kidsto do homework or to do choresor things like this. The this would be inthe episode ideas. I had numberthree chalkboard and then there'sother ones where he's obviously reading out different versions of theBible, things like this. So it's sort of an eclecticmix I guess of, of different topicsand episodes that he's got goingon there now. He actually messaged me a boostagramon the last episode asking for meto review his podcast.
And so here I am. And so here I shall do it. So let's get into his valuefor value implementation. Now this podcasthas been around for a super long time,I think less than a year. If I go to the first episode,it was produced on the January of 2022,so about six months and is obviously still trying to find his own particular method ofof creating the podcast. What it is that he actually wants to dowith it. Totally understandablein the sort of, I guess you'd call itgrowing pains of starting a podcast, but this is typically howhe will add to his value for value pitch is it's a little bitdifferent, I guess,because he's got a couple of things going on.
One is he's reading outcontent directly from a, a piece of paper or from a computeror something like that. So it's something that's already been writtenand he's reading it out directly, putting it intoaudio format. Now, this, I guess, produces a challengethat it's not going to be perhaps natural for him to then add on something elseto the end, i.e. him talking about valuefor value, which is kind ofwhat you need to do. You need to makeyour audience aware of it. Otherwise, you know, they just simplywon't know about it. So you need to make the pitch of whythis is here.
So some of his episodes,I notice he didn't have any sort of value for valueimplementation at all or any talking about it. It was simplyjust his the episode. But then I guess this is where it's kind of coolwhere he can mix in maybe on the morefreeform ones where he'stalking about his ideas. This is where it fits ina little bit more nicely. So I'm going to playthis little section here and there's going to be a few clips,a few different clips from this podcast, so bear with me as I'mswitching through them. But this is fromthe Love of Money episode at around 15,around the 16 minute mark.
Being that this podcastis value for value, though no one can tellme to stop, no one can threaten me to stop. I don'tthink anyone would, but you never know. And no one can ever take this down,which is just wonderful. So having said all that,I follow the three TS that are soon to be recorded in the manifestothat will be written by Adam Clark Curryon how to live a truly valuefor value existence. And that will be, like I said,recorded by yours truly, just like everything elsethat I record for the general public and will be recordingfor the general public, I will put in audio formall of the all of the thingsthat would never be recorded in audio form.
I thought,you know what, tangent? I thought, you know. Okay,so he goes on a bit of a tangent there, but you can see thereone of the things he does is really highlight what it isthat he's doing that you won't findelsewhere, i.e. I'm going to create audio form,so I'm going to read out written words that you probablyare not going to find anywhere elsebecause they're going to be small. So he's not particularlygoing after a super famous bookand reading that out. No, it's a lot more niche and it's alot more specific. So one of the thingsthat that's really cool, I like that he does that,unfortunately.
I suppose one of thecritiques I would have of this is that hethen goes on to talk for about another twoand a half minutes without getting directlyinto what is time, talent and treasure the three TS and how you canparticularly support him. So, you know,this is one of those ones where it's kind of a mix, right? You want to emphasise what it is, the valuethat you're producing, but then also tryingto emphasise as well how other peoplecan send that back to you. And I supposetrying to find that, that mix, that balancebecause you know, in his case,for example, you probably would want to highlightright at the front, okay, this is what I'm doingthat's kind of unique,that's different.
And so, you know, really making that,I suppose visible, transparent,bringing it right up to the surface isdefinitely a good thing. But, you know, you do have to mix that in with how people can get back to you, how they cangive back to you by the time and talentand treasure and whatnot. Now, I'm going to jump onto another episode here. So this is fromhis first full EP, first full episodeand first boostagram around the 29minutes, 47 seconds. Mark But before beforewe round out the Value for Value segment, I want to talk about myvery first boostagram got my first one.
Let's talk aboutthe guy who gave it to me. This name is hard for me to pronouncebecause I'm not sure if I'm going to pronounceit wrong. It's spelledPetar could be Petar, but it's Petar. That's his handleright there. So if I'm pronouncing itwrong, that sucks. But you can set it at a booster groundto tell me if I'm wrong. But he donated 1222 SATs, so that's actually surprising to methat I got that. But he donatedon the 25th, so this has been awhile coming. So this I'm going to jump forwardbecause once again, he sort of delaysa little bit. There's a little bit of sort of 30 secondsor it's not super useful not telling us exactlywhat needs to go.
So perhaps being a bitmore short and snappy. But obviously he's got his first boostagramso he reads out typically this isthis is how people do it. You read out the person who sent it in,acknowledging who it is. Everyone likes to heartheir name being produced on a on aon an episode like, wow, like I made it in. This is kind of cool,you know, really, you know whypeople go to sports matches and hold up signsthat they can get on the Jumbotron,you know, like, what the hell is the pointof that? Well, you know, it'skind of cool. You liketo see yourself up there and it's sort of likebragging rights.
Well, look,look what I did so that he doesthat correctly. Reading out the amountis usually useful as well, because sometimes there's sort of numerologyattached to it. When you have a bitmore of an audience, you can sort ofdecipher it by, okay, these are the peoplewho are sending the most back. I it's sort of like a it's a way of valuingthe message. They really wanttheir message. And so they've sentin this this portion here,which is higher than everyone else. I'm going to perhapsget to this first because perhaps there is a signal that can be used to show that this is indeedmore important.
Now, this is perhapsa section where I would say maybe this is not the way you would read outyour very first boostagram That's come in. I'd like to readhis boostagram He says, as someonewho's been operating power grids for 17 years,I hate to tell you, you got all the thingswrong here. ERCOT and a Visser are not equivalent typeorganisations. Texas has plenty of coalplants which also fail. Capacitors don't storepower batteries which are still largelyVapourware can and do respondextremely quickly to stabilisegen and load balance. I'm sorry, no know he did not read itlike that, I'll bet.
No, no he didn't. He says okay, and thenhe goes on to read it and in a more normal voice now goddamn, that'sa fucking risky behaviour. Either I love it,I love it. So look, very ballsyway of reading out your very firstboostagram Um, it's, it's, this is, I guess, one of the challenges with the internet, of course, and writtenword is that it's you don't get the contextbehind the intonation and whatnot. Thankfully for him, Peter, who's a bloody legend too,and as you'll notice, this name cropping upbecause he boosts a lot of these types of showsand he is a cool guy and so subsequentlyeven sort of apologised in the in the laterBoostagram for, for sending in somethingthat could be misconstrued as being arrogantor whatnot when he was actually just trying to say like heyyou got some information wrongin your latest episode.
And this is why I knowbecause I work in the energy sector,etc., etc., etc.. But there you go. That's the way that Claude, Claudio, Claude,you reads out and does his valuefor value implementation. I guess it's I suppose you could also putthat in the unique section which is coming upin a second. So that's a reallya uniquely very Yeah. Variablesthe way of reading out your first boostagrambut he does go on to sort of say it in a in an in a normal mannerand thank you Petar in I suppose a more,more traditional way but yeah getting on tosome unique things. Look, the podcast itself hasn't been aroundfor a super long time and unlike some of theprevious episodes which are more establishedlike Bowl After Bowl podcasting 2.0,or even I guess the SLIEK podcast too, that they've, they've just dived inand you know, they're creating some really coolthings related to levels of support and merchandiseand things like that.
This one I wouldn't sayis as anything particularly stand out, but he did mention thisin the episode. It's my podcast and I'll cry if I want to around the 122 markand I'll play this and this will bring upan idea that I think is kind of unique in a wayand will help to explain a little bitmore about the value. I wanted to give Petar his credit for hisvery first donation, and it's crazy. It still is crazy to methat I got a donation of any sort because I think I said this in mylast in my last podcast, I don't haveor I didn't have. Yes. I never had anyonespeak to me on the topics that I would put up.
And most of my topicswere just Bible studies. But even thenI set up an email, I set up a website,I set up everything I possibly could to make this work outwell to where someone that may havehad a grouse with me would be ableto speak about it. Let me knowwhat the issue was and I would give themplenty of time of day, even invite them on to aco recording so they could tell mehow wrong I was and why. But I never had anything. And now,thanks to podcasting 2.0, not only doI get interaction, but I get paid for it. It's wonderful. Like, obviously it'snothing to write home about currently because it's my veryfirst donation and it was, I mean, converted with current Bitcoin prices,it was like $0.39.
But that's not the point. The pointis someone valued there, someone valued the showwell enough to value their own message to the show,enough to give me money. Yeah. So there'sa couple of things I want to examinefrom there. First of all, you know, that'sa really cool way of showing, I guess, your ownappreciation, right? So he, he,he talks about how he was havingsome difficulties, some struggles,you know, trying to gain some sort of audienceor some traction or even justthe continual feeling. I'll continuallybring this up, which is when you first starting outand even can be when you've been doing itfor a long time, it feels likenothing is happening.
And to a certain extent it is because no one'slistening. It takes, it takes time, it takes traction,it takes effort. And one of the things thatreally takes is putting yourself out there, but not in the mannerthat you're thinking. And so here'sa little recent experience that I've had in real life that I thinkhighlights this a bit. So the other day I was walking aroundin Southbank, which is here in Brisbane,is sort of just an area which gets a lot of foottraffic. You know, that'sit's right near the river. There's connectionsto a couple of different universitiesaround the bridges.
So all sorts ofgood things. And there wasthis guy who had set up a set himselfup at the base of one of these bridges,and I was walking past and he was essentiallyshouting and he was just shouting about all sortsof different things. It was kind oflike a street preacher. But he was also, you know, talking aboutpolitics a little bit. It was it was a little bitof everything. And you look you couldlook at this guy and say, okay,what's going on here? You know, he'sputting in so much effort. He's taken the timeto physically locate himselfto this place.
I believe he had somepamphlets of some sort. He was putting energy into his voice,into his actions. And he was, you know, speaking directly to to people, butalso to a general audience at the same time. And you could go,you know, why isn't this guygetting traction? And the reason isbecause he was, you know,a little bit crazy. But it's it was mostly his method ofcommunication was the thing he could have beenspouting wisdom, the universe and I still would havewalked straight past him because he was not doing it in a waythat made me really think, okay, he's thoughtnot only long and hard about the message itself,but also how to get the message across.
And so this is the pointwhere you need to go to othersto be honest. And Claude, as Claudiu has somewhat realised this in a way,one I guess you could say is by going to podcastingto point out. So he's found a little bit of a communitythere is he's found that okay,not only do I need to to produce the podcastand put it out there, but that's,that's not enough. Like I need to be ableto get people interested in it, or at least enoughto check it out. And then perhaps,you know, that that check in, thatchecking it out, give it a chance to to do somevalue for value with that.
But I need to do thatin a way that's not just makes me feellike I'm doing something. It's actuallydoing something. And so I've actually seen hishis handle on a bunch of different places. I've seen himBoostagramming a bunch ofdifferent places. And so it's sort ofno surprise to me that Petarhas come across him at some point,obviously, and, and then decidedto send a boost agram in. So once again,it's not just with value for valueit's it's not even you could have, you know,totally be on board with the model valuefor value help. Hell yeah, I don't want todo advertising.
I don't want to dopaywalls. This is the wayI want to go. Brilliant. You know, that's a very important step of the processof understanding the model itself and andperhaps how you can do it. You can then say, Perfect,I want to run this for, you know,not even just a podcast. This could be for musichas, as I covered recentlyon decentralised music on the Mere Mortals podcast, which has been a couple of episodesI've done on that. But you could also do itfor help, even like the wayClaudio is doing it with reading outwritten content, which perhaps you might sayis, Oh, this is more of anaudio book rather than a podcast.
You know, whatever gripe you can, you can makethose distinctions, but it's not enoughto just produce it. You have to be willing to interactwith other people and perhaps you might not do valuefor value with them in the sense of directly,you know, paying satoshis for someone. It's not like it's like, hey, I'm going to pay you. So no, nowcome check out my thing. Now you can do this ina bunch of different ways. You can go onto amastodon account, you can like I used to do, listento people's podcast, leave them a reviewon Apple Podcasts, and then tell themthat you left that review and do it in a nice way.
Not in a way saying like,Hey, come check out mine. But you know,that's how I gained a bit of tractionwhen I was very first getting into podcastingand before I knew about wellbefore even podcasting 2.0 existed. So this I guessis the, the something unique section,which is he brings upa really good point there of it's, it'snot just enough to do it. You have to you have to think aboutwhat it is you're doing. You have to add a bit that extra layerof thought onto it. So make your contentgreat as well. But you know, spending thatlittle bit of extra time and thinking about,okay, now how can I get thisin front of people in a waythat's not spammy, that's not annoying, that's not perhaps payingfor it in a huge lump sum way, and buying botsand buying followers and things like that.
No, it's you have to you have to spenda bit of time. You have to spenda bit of thought in that. So that's thethe final section I wanted to bring up herefrom the cloud cast, which I did enjoytuning into today. Actually, this is where I, I spend a lot of my timeand this morning just examining how he's doing itand what he's doing. So let's go on to my ownsection of the Boosta gram Lounge and see what people havebeen sending in to me. Welcometo the Value for Value. Boostagram Lounge. Yes, yes, yes. So we are into the Boosta gram Lounge now, and I've got a coupleof here to read out, which is very exciting.
As always, I do enjoy getting into these sort of topicsand seeing what people, their responseto my own podcast. So the very first one hereis from Brando Sellers, and he sends this usingFountain 31,250 god dayum. Thank you, my friend. Very cool. So you will recognise thatname. It's because I hadI reviewed his show on the previous episodeof the Value for Value podcast and he says, I'mpretty sure I stole the leaderboardfrom you lol. Thanks for featuring uson this episode. So yeah, this is one of the funny thingswhere it's, you know, I didn't even realiseI had an influence on him, so he had obviously tunedinto a live stream that I wasdoing at some point where myself and oneand this is on the Mere Mortals podcast had been sort ofusing some of the data in a not particularlyaesthetic way, but going throughsome of the data and really highlighting like,Oh, these are the people have beensupporting us the most and it had a leaderboard format,but not in a not in a visually appealing way.
So they tookthat idea, ran with it, and then I really stolethat idea back from me, which is kind of cool.I love that. I love this sort of stuff.So thank you very much. Brando Sellers. And yes, for everyone wondering, he is the ownerof the Strangest Life I've Ever Known Podcast,The Sliek podcast. Go check it out. The infamous Petarstrikes again with the 2084 SATs, and he saysvictory will be mine. Oh, yes. And so that is inreference to the leaderboardwhere I took command of the leadership. I can now tell you thatI am no longerthe Lizard King, which painsme to say, but, you know, I felt like I always enjoyed quoting that Simpsons quotewhere Lisa’s on meds note, she's takena bunch of random meds at a theme parkand has a towel on her, shivering and goes,I am the lizard queen.
So yes, I am. If I'm not the LizardKing, perhapsI can be the Lizard queen. Petar, I hope you havea nice comfy bed for me. And then this is honestly one of the mostexciting ones. So this is froma very new person who's goes underthe handle of blogging. Bitcoin once again sentusing Fountain 938 sets and he says, Dude, this is the mostinteresting way of selling t shirtsI've ever heard. Great podcast. Hey, thank you very much.Mr. Blogging Bitcoin. I'm going to gocheck out that handle afterwards and see what it isthat they actually do. I imagine they blog about bitcoin,which is a very exciting thing and yes, once again,like these, you know, the showstarting to pick up.
I really love it. I think that Brando Boost was the biggest oneI've had so far as well. So, man, a bloody legend. Thank you so much for thatin terms of just a boosting amount. So I was reading them out, by the way,just in terms of when they actually camein, rather than ordering themby amounts, there was only three. So, you know, it's not a the biggest deal for me to to read themin a particular order. But if I startgetting a bit more, you know, I probably will make the extra effortto sort them by amounts coming in. So with that being said, we've cometo the end of the the Valuefor Value podcast and I just really want tothank everyone for, for tuning intoto this far.
You know it's, it's, it's a little bitof a journey getting into this,spending the time and effort researching butit's it is a lot of fun. So my value for value request todaywould be to do exactly what I've been doingand what obviously Petar's been doing. And to a certain extentwhat Claudiu has been doing,which is to to get out thereand not only listen to perhaps a podcast, which you'venever listened to before, maybe somethinga bit niche, maybe it'sjust starting up. Someone who would reallyappreciate definitely the the interactionand getting something for the very first time.
You could hear the excitement in his voicewhere he he got as hisvery first boostagram and, you know, sendingsome value to them, whether it be critical, whether it bea good thing, whether it be a bad thing, even just any sort offeedback is always appreciatedby those small people. And I'd know thatbecause I've been there, I've been theremany a time and it really isa wonderful thing to be able to brightensomeone's day like that. So that's, that'smy request for today. You go outthere, send some value to someonewho's deserving of it and until the next timethis is Kyrin and the Value for valuepodcast, check it out.