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I want to support my favourite podcaster .... but how?! In Ep#53 we're going to find out how to get some Bitcoin on the Lightning Network, test out some cool apps and I'll give some podcast recommendations as well. This was recorded as a video version as well (link below).

Huge thanks to Kolomona and Premitive1 for supporting the show (plus everyone streaming as well). Don't forget to boost!

15% of this episode is going to Jason from Podcast Guru to help support apps & developers working on Podcasting 2.0.


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I want to supportmy favourite podcaster,   but how?   Welcome everyoneto another episode   of the Value for Valueshow.   I'm your host, Kyrin,the host of the Mere Mortals   and Mere Mortals BookReviews podcast as well.   But this is the podcast   for those digital contentcreators   who want to connect deeperwith their audience   and find waysfor their audience   to connect more deeplywith them.   Indeed, we're going to befocusing on   how your audience can helpconnect with you today.   This is going to beparticularly   for podcastersand podcasting,   but we're going to seesome interesting stuff   coming out with the valuesof value music   and I believeand even some video stuff   in the future.  

Stay tuned for a couple ofepisodes. Time for that.   I'm going to be doinga bit of a different one   todaybecause it's a live audio,   but with a pre-recordedvideo   because I'm going to bedoing a run   through of all the coolpodcasting apps   that allow for boostto grams   and allow for people   to send in support to youwith messages   that you can receiveon your phone   on your desktopwithin the actual   app itself,   there's all sortsof really cool ways   that we're going to dothat.   Today is the 11thof October 2023   and I'm coming herefrom lovely   sunny Brisbane as well.  

I've got all my audiopanel set up here.   I've got my lightingset up,   so this is probably one of   the best produced onesI've ever done actually.   So it's it's kind of cool.   So I am going to be   talking to   this pre-recorded video,   so it's going to be ahopefully   a best of both worlds ormaybe the worst of both.   What we'll find out,but we'll see how we go.   So if you are tuning in   live now, I'm   goingto stop playing the video   and you can followalong with me here. Now.   So basically,what are the things   that we want to be doing   for someone to support youis to actually   get some money, get   how they actually goingto be able to do that.  

And so we're going to be   acquiring some Bitcoinon the Lightning Network.   Now, there's a couple of   different waysthat you can do this.   It can also be acquiredthrough things   like Strike and Cash   OP wherever you arein the world.   But I'm goingto be showing you the ALBY   browser extension.   So this is going to be the   probably easiest wayfor anyone in the world   to be able to get to,   because all you need to gois to a website.   So as you're seeingright now,   if you go to get allbecome,   there's ways to log in.   I'm going to skipthe login process   and we'renow just looking at   what you actually see.  

So you've got a wayof being able   to receive lightningfrom different addresses,   Bitcoinfrom a different address.   So if you've got the cashup of strike   or something like that   or elsewhere in the worldwherever,   and then you can actuallytop up within the actual   get Albisection of the website.   So this is whereit'll be connected   to like Muun Payand basically   all you need to dois have a,   a debit card   or a credit cardor something like that,   and you can do itwithin there.   They're going to suggestbig amounts.   I would suggest just do itwith something small.   So if you've gota favourite podcast   or you want to support,   just put in like 50 bucks,100 bucks   or something like that   is worthwhile to you   and that you can feelyou can afford.  

Now there's allsorts of things that are   really beneficialfor podcasters as well.   So if you are listening inor tuning in   and you're a podcaster,   a get Albi   address is kind of a   necessity at this stage   because it can link toso many different places.   And if you're a supporterand you want to   and you're like,Oh, I don't want to deal   with all of these things,it's pretty cool.   So you can do thisalmost one and done   and then get Alby   is really going to be ableto let you access across   various different apps.   So there are other wayssome apps have a built   in mechanismfor you to earn it.  

So this would be things   like podfans or Fountain,   which have thesegaming mechanisms   and then others have ways   for you to top up withinthe actual app itself. So   get allthese is pretty cool.   You can only do this onthe desktop at the moment,   but it does havesome functionalities   that will allow youto connect with things   through through the mobile   using these differentpodcasting apps.   And there's all sorts ofother things that'll show.   So you get transactionsand things like that.   Let's jump onto the firstapp, which is Fountain.   So Fountain is   a podcasting appthat's pretty recent   and I suppose one of the   best features about itis that it really focuses   on the boostingon the social aspect.  

So if you're goingthrough it,   you see there'sall sorts of notifications   of when people have liked   or sent yousmall portions, you know,   ten sets, 100 sets hereof all of Bitcoin.   And they really dofocus on showcasing, okay,   this is what other peopleare supporting   their shows, other showsthey're supporting.   And you can seebig amounts   with the BolaBoost section.   They've got hot shows   and I think the   discoverability onthere is really cool   for this aspect   of seeing   what other peoplereally like   and they're staying aheadof the trends as well.   They've just implementedthe hot 100 tracks   which are Values for Valuemusic as well.  

And you can seeas you go through it,   it does havethis social aspect.   I've got my own profile.   There's a whole bunchof followers   on thatand people following me.   And you know,   you can seewhen I've created clips   and commentsand things like this.   So it's it's very mucha podcast.   It's a really solidpodcasting app.   And I've chatted withthe one of the founders,   Oscar Merry, three times,I think on the   Mere Mortals podcast.   So you can really get aan aspect   or a find outof of what he is like and   you cansee as well on the app.   So the app is really good.  

I actually it'smy daily driver   and I've orderedall of these based   on how much I use thempersonally.   So when I'm kind of givingthese recommendations,   their recommendations   based on whatI actually use.   So when you gointo the app   and you're playinga podcasting episode,   you'll seethat's the boost button.   You can stream incertain amounts as well.   I'm just writing here   to a showcalled America Plus,   which I really enjoy   by Cole McCormickis boosted   in a couple of timesto this show itself.   So it's kind of this   you, you know, continuouscycle that goes on.   And yeah, basicallywhat you just do is   you send, you selectan amount that you want.  

I really like 2222 so alsoknown as a row of ducks   and because I kind of looklike cute little ducks   and so I'm just writing   a message to him heresaying,   you know,I'm boosting along for the   for thewalk through of this show.   You're going to see thismultiple times happening.   I really enjoywhat you're doing.   Great episode.   Cole Then I hit the boostbutton and then,   you know,   confetti flies everywhereand things like that.   So that fountain,it's a pretty good   podcasting appI really enjoyed   and is definitely my   my daily driver,   the next one I'm going onto now is podverse.  

And so Podverse is an app   that's been aroundfor quite a while.   It's on desktop and mobileand so   you can kind of connectwith with both of them.   I'd say it doesn't,it doesn't have as much   social aspectsas fountain,   if any, to be honest.   But what it does have isthe connection with Alby.   So with Fountain,for example,   all ofit was kind of built in.   They had their own builtin wallets with pods.   First, it'srelatively easy   to connectyour Alby account.   All you needis the password and your   your emailwith your username   that you used   one clickand then you're back in   and you're like, Oh shit,I can actually support.  

So you can see herethey've   reallyfocussed for Mitch on   I guess likethe accessibility aspects.   So I was showingtranscripts   and things like thatbefore.   At the moment I'm goinginto the office hours 2.0,   a show by Chris Fisher,which I really enjoy,   and you can see   it brings up the chaptersand images   and it's got a whole lotof the podcasting   2.0 features as well.   With that, I really justfind it intuitive.   This app,   it's the queuing,for example,   I really enjoyedthe transcripts.   I mentionedthe accessibility.   It's open source,   as I mentioned   in one of the lastepisodes,   talkingabout that as well.  

And you can searchin the transcripts   and Mitch himself,the developer of this   or one of them actuallyhas just quit   his full time jobfor at least   the next three months   and is working on itfull time.   So really,really cool with that.   And you can definitely   expectto see more podcasting   2.0 features appearingand yeah, really, really   awesome app   that I usequite a lot for,   for different features   like I saidfor that queuing.   So I find thatreally useful for   when I'm learning Germanand things like that.   Once again, I'm justwriting a message here.   You want to just look outfor things that say boost   or boost a gram andwrite a message to them.  

Now how does this actually   get directly to themwhile they will have   the podcast?   And if they're set upfor value for value,   not all of themare at the moment.   I think there's about   12 to 14000 somewherearound that range.   Go back to the   the stats again,you can see when you're   sending in a boost gram,at least in pod verse,   you can see   where it's exactlygoing to and the amounts   which I thinkis actually really cool.   I do like that feature   knowing, okay,   this is wheremy money is actually going   to whenI'm supporting them.   The confetti fliesup shows on the screen.  

So you know, it's gonethrough.   Everything's really cool.   You enjoy doing that   and it gives you a warmfeeling inside.   So that's another appthere.   Let's jumponto the desktop version.   So this is Curiocaster.   It's been aroundfor a while   and so this is a desktoponly app.   Once again, connect withI'll be really quick   once you've got this Albything   set up, it's so simplejust to connect to various   different apps   and you can try outdifferent ones   and like podverse,for example,   you could do   a listen   to a show on the desktop,and then if you bring out   the mobile, it would bethere as well.  

Cura stuff.   Like I said, it'sbeen around for a while   and it's part of StevenB's App Emporium.   I've talked about Stevenbefore.   It's not really hismain focus at the moment.   You could kind ofsee there   he's got this Discover   Discover page,which hasn't been   updated foreverbecause my him,   the Mere Mortals   podcast is an old logoI was using from ages ago.   But once again,the connection   you can changeyour stream settings   and he has beenfocusing on music a lot.   I'm bringing up now   the Boostagram Ball,which is Adam Curry's show   aboutvalue for value music.  

And then there'sthis other or someone   I stumbled upon recently   called into the doerfel verse, d o e r   and then verse,   and it's this bandof like this family,   brothers, sisters,husbands, wives, cousins,   who are all just theseamazing musicians.   Episode seven ofthat was hilarious.   It was such a good   one of the most intriguing   podcasts I've ever comeacross. To be honest.   But yet.   Curiocaster   It's got a lot   of the functionalities,chapters, transcripts,   shows, evenjust like different apps.   You can support in   in the show notesthat Mitch   scramble showingand he's very much   focusing on musicat the moment.  

So he's got   his other projectsof like LN Beats and   the music side projectand the split kit.   So there'sthis great episode he did   on Bowl After Bowl,an interview actually   showing showcasing like   how he's really into selfsovereignty   and you know whatthis app means to him   because it's on desktop,it's really easy to   to write out these boosterdiagrams and things,   you know, fiddling aroundwith your fingers and   and whatnot.   So I find it   a lot quickerif I wanted to write   a big messageto someone, as in,   you know,   more than 500 characters,that sort of thing   or 400 characters,   I would do thatand it's also super quick.  

All of this stuff works   really, really quickly onthe on on here at Costa.   Let's jumponto another one.   Podfansthe new app on the block,   the new kid on the block.   So I've actually had SamSethi, the founder of this   on the models before.   If you felt likechecking that out   and this is a progressiveWeb app.   So you'll noticewith a lot of these,   they have a,   you know, a desktopand a mobile version,   probably abouthalf of them have that.   And if they don't have italready,   they're planning on itand their fountain   is planning on creatinga desktop version.   And the good thingwith the progressive   web app is you   can you only have to usekind of one code base.  

And so   when they make changes,they go out everywhere   and they go out instantly.   And so   Sam is basically putevery single thing   that he could findinto this.   So it's got the value timesplits, it's got paddle,   it's got transcripts, it's   got value tag, it'sgot everything in here.   It can also, you know,cook your dinner for you.   So what what's what's   really cool aboutthis is Sam cares a lot.   It's likely to havesome growing pains.   This literally came outI think a week and a bit   ago, two weeks ago.   And at least for the themobile version of this.   But thankfully,it's really sweet.  

Once again,you connect with Alby.   And the cool thing with   this isyou can earn stats in here   so you can seeon the screen here   I'm just basicallyearning things   by doing actionson the on that.   So, you know,   playing a podcast,becoming a podfan,   writing a boosta   Gram Creatinga clip is a calls them   I think actionsor prompts.   I forget the actualterminology   but basically you can earn10,000 sets   just by usingthe app itself.   You don't even need to   come in with a walletif you don't want.   You can just play around,do things   and you'llyou'll find like,   Oh shit, I'mactually getting   a little bit of moneyhere.  

Like, what's,what's all this for?   What's this?This is kind of cool.   So basically   I think you still needsto work on some of the   aspects of the intuitionbecause he's put so much   into thisthat finding things   can can be a little bitdifficult at times.   Like you just want to hit   the boostagrambut it's like,   Oh no, I have to go into   the episode itselfand then find it.   I know he's fixing thisand I know he cares a lot.   So this is a really,really cool thing that   that he's up to here.   You can see at the moment   he did a interviewwith Mark Asquith   pretty recently onI think it was called   Podcast Accelerator.  

And so I'm just coming   into hereand I'm writing a boosta,   Gram saying, you know,I really enjoyed the show.   He can actually do it   so that you can boostagram   in at a certain pointif you want to.   This hasn't been used much   I know I personally whenpeople burst into my show   I just don't have timeto go back   and find at what pointthey exactly boosted in.   Usuallyyou have a good memory   and it's obviousfrom the message itself,   but I knowsometimes it can be like,   Oh wait, they're referringto something   of a three or four hourepisode from weeks ago.   Like, I've just forgotten.  

I don't know what they're   actuallyreferring to there.   So having this abilityto actually check it out   and know when they boostedwill help you   as the podcastergo back and find.   And speaking of that,   he's actually   creating a lot of thingsin here,   much like Fountain did,where you as the podcast   can actually access   a lot of thesecapabilities   that your hostmight not have.   So, for example,the pod roll,   you can go in to Podfans   and you'll be ableto create a little pod   roll for your show there.   Once you've claimedyour show,   there's all sorts of other   little hiddengoodies in the back end.  

It's it's   kind of like a minihosting solution in a way.   So it's it's usefulin that aspect   of just jumping in andbe able to try things out.   I boosted into the showthere   and yeah   a very cool   app oneto definitely look out for   and probably is goingto jump up on my list.   Podcast Guru is the nextone that I've got here.   So it's a mobile app   predominantly,although I have seen   they've got a cheeky web   app inthe in the beta version.   It's very solid.   It's been aroundfor, for a fair while.   A couple of theseother ones, such   as Fountain Pod fans arereally, really curio   Caster They're all recent.  

Only a couple ofyears old.   This one'sbeen around since 2018   and they're really just   jumping now into thepodcasting 2.0 aspects.   I think they were lookingfor a little bit   and now I know Jason,   I've been chattingwith one of their   the developers of   and I'm   not exactlysure what he is, but   he can do things, youknow, change your name.   I would recommend tryingto do that instantly.   Whenever you're wanting to   support into a show,it is important to   look.   I know as myselfas a podcast,   if someone boosts and   I want to be ableto thank them properly.   And so if it's just listdoes anonymous   or user 2635 45blah blah blah   I'd actuallyprefer having a   a user name tobe actually thank someone.  

So podcast guru.   They've if you look intotheir little blog section,   they've got somesome cool stuff   there related to   what they'reactually doing   and why they're doing it,why they're   starting to adopt2.0 tags.   Really greatfor discoverability.   I really like thissearch function.   I find that   one of the best thingsabout this app itself,   you can see now I'm justjumping into podcasting   to point out here   similar to our podcastdoes,   it brings up a big sectionshowing where your   your supportis actually going to,   whichI really, really enjoy   because I know I myselfhave multiple splits   on most of my shows.  

And so I   yeah, I like the peopleat home to know,   oh yeah, you're actuallysupporting not just me,   you're supportinglike six different people.   If you boostinto this show   once again   doing my,my standard amount here,   the numerology iskind of important.   It makes it fun.   So, you know,   if you want to send ina birthday boost   or a anniversary boost,send in the role force.   If it's the fourthanniversary   I know on the OfficeHours, the Jupiter   Broadcasting shows people   like to boost   in their postcodethe zip number,   which is kind of a funlittle thing.   You can make a gameout of it.  

Now, one of the coolthings about podcast Guru   is the Lightning Rule.   It's kind of cool.   It's it's differentfrom the confetti.   I like thatlittle touch to it.   And it also justhighlights that   with all of this boostingand stuff, sometimes   it's going to be in a bitextra.   It's not necessarilygoing to be the   the amountthat you think it is   because there's fees andall sorts of other stuff.   Let's jump on to anotherone here.   This is Podfriend.   We're going back   onto the desktopfor this moment,   although I believe   this is a progressive Webapp as well.   So you can getit on your your mobile.  

This has been aroundfor a long time now.   Not a long   so a short time,but long in podcasting   2.0 worldSo he was right there near   the Nina start   I suppose   the cool thing   with pod friend is Martinfocuses a lot   on the design aspects,   so it's really slick in   terms of moving from placeto place, intuition,   everything just kind oflooks really nice.   And he's got   a little sectionof, of a pop up showing,   okay,this is what a boost is.   This is what it means.   And so you could see that   Podfans   also has   a very helpful sectionof prompting of being like   this is what this means   and this is how you cancan kind of learn from it.  

So very similar, you know,bursting into a show.   You type out a numberthat's meaningful to you.   I write a row of stickshere above Richard's,   which is a funny one,and I'm just bursting   into the pod.   News weeklyat this moment.   Previously I was pushing   into podcasting 2.0,   so definitely another showthat you should   check out   to know   about all of these things,especially   if you're more inclinedto the tech sort of stuff.   And soyou get Pod News Weekly.   How I actually foundpodcasting   2.0 was throughJames Cridland,   one of the hostsof that show.   So very helpfulone to get to you know   you boost in and   another cool aspect of itis that it's it's   just got these features   like if you bring up   a certain show podcasting2.0, for example,   you can see the different   faces popping up of who's   talkingwith the transcript,   which is just anice little feature   he unfortunatelyisn't working on.  

It's super hardas much as some of the   previous ones that I justmentioned.   He's got a full timeday job.   There's Martin Mouritzen.   And so yeah, lots of stuffgoing on with him.   So he's that app.   Don't expect itto be constantly updating   with all the coolnew things   like much of the others.   Let's jump onto anotherone breez here.   So this is the secondto last.   This is more of a pointof sale   terminal with somepodcasting chucked in.   It was kind of funny.   So if you go into the app   it's you have   to click on the topleft corner,   really make sure you're   finding the podcastingsection.  

Otherwise you'll be like,What the hell is this?   It's very,very simple interface,   which is actually nicein a way, uses the anytime   player background.   So if you've used any timeplayer before,   you'llnotice it from that.   Real simple.   It only shows valueenabled shows.   So if you're looking for   other showsoutside of that,   this is not the placeto come.   It's only going to showthe 13,000 that   have enabled this.   And yeah, once again,very simple interface.   You go in there,click on a show,   you've got your boostbutton, you're streaming,   and once again, it'skind of it's a basic one.  

It's not designedas a podcasting app.   It's a point.   It's a it'sa lightning wallet   with some podcastingattached to it.   Now, the good thing aboutthat is   you can top up withinthe app.   It's got a   lot more functionalitiesin terms   of sendingyour bitcoin elsewhere.   So if you wanted to use   it, for example,to send some money to   a guy at the local Bitcoinmeet up that I go to   who has cookedsome steaks,   you saw thatright at the start of this   section where it wassaying, you know,   sending some moneyto brisket for   for his his steak.   So yeah, just writinga small message here.  

If you want to knowmore about bitcoin,   I'm sending this boostagramto the generation   Bitcoin show by Mcintosh.   He's got a LightningNetwork update.   Very, very helpful help handy and helpful for that.   And for the last one here,we're on to Castamatic.   So this is an iOSonly device.   So I've used thismaybe once before   because I have aAndroid phone.   So I didn't manage toto grab a   a friend'sand be able to use hers.   So once again,   this one you just connectwith Alby,   type in your details.   And so you can see medoing the full   logging process hereusing one of my accounts,   all of this stuff.  

It's importantto recognise   all of thisis kind of new.   All of this is kind ofuntested.   It's it'stested in the sense   like we've been using itfor a couple of years,   but there's alwaysthe chance that   something could go wrongand you don't want to be   using lots of moneyfor all of this stuff.   So I wouldI would put it this way   whatever amount of cash   you keepin your physical wallet   or something   that you'd be comfortablekeeping on yourself,   don't exceed thatfor any of these things.   So for me personally,   I wouldn't want more   than a couple of hundredbucks on any of these   because if I lostmore than that,   that would really suckand I would feel bad.  

So you can see,   like at the momentI've only gotten,   you know, like 10,000   sets, 20,000in this wallet,   which I wastesting around with and   becauseI use it everywhere.   So there's a   there's a chance   I could dosomething wrong,   that could be somethingsilly, etc., etc..   All of these apps,a pretty good idea,   and they've been verytrustworthy at this,   you know, after multipleyears of using it.   But there's alwaysthe chance that   money can go missing.   So justjust keep that in mind.   If you're boosting inor playing around with   with any of these things.  

So cosmetic, it's   like I said,I haven't used it much,   but I've heard that it isin terms of   just an actual app itselffor the audio experience,   it's probably   one of the best onesand you'll see   some of the aspects here   when I get to it.   It's got a lot   more functionalitiesin terms of being able to   various speedchange the volume   levels, enhancethis, to enhance that.   So in termsof the actual experience   of listening to audio,   this is probablyone of the best ones.   Once again,   this is justa recommendation   I've heard from others.   So I can't say,particularly   at the moment,I'm just sending a booster   from hereto Curry & the keeper.  

This is another oneof Adam Curry's shows.   So just,   you know,   helping to support himand spreading the word,   I suppose   a value for valueso people can try   all of these differentapps and,   you know,   hopefully people will cometo the video of this   and be able to see,Oh yeah,   this is actually kind of aa cool thing.   Once again,the confetti comes up   and yeah, I,   I can't   give toomuch recommendations   on this particular one,but it does have   the very nice experienceall of the audio   and then it also has,you know,   some functionalitiesattached in here as well.   So that is going to bethe end of the   actual video sectionof highlighting the apps.  

And yeah,there was eight there   that I listed through   and I'll talk morein the kind of tips   sectionabout how you can actually   think about these things,   how to make sure you're on   top of everythingthat's going on.   So until that though,   I'm going to   get into my BoostaGram Lounge section and   shout out   some people who helpedto support the shows.   Welcome to the Value forValue   Boostagram Lounge.   This is a Value for   value podcast, the valuefor your podcast.   And I just do reallyappreciate anyone who is   sending in support of via   all of these mechanismsthat I was just   talking about here.  

So because we areon the 11th,   I'm going to have to jumpback to the fourth here.   Once again.   I can see lots of pod fans   donations coming in.   I really would enjoy   recommend checking outthese live episodes   because they are   they do just providea different dynamic.   You could, for example,   have been watching   the video along with meas I was doing this,   which would have beenkind of fun.   And so I saw some paymentshere from Adam Curry   and Sam Sethi.That was for the   streaming.Thank you very much.   I see here Kolomonaand he says, Good show.   I enjoyed your thoughtson the similarities   between open sourceand V for V. Sir Libre   Lightning Thrashers,Rock on Lightning.  

So you sent 3333 thosesome lucky numbers there   using fountain.Thank you very much.   And he comes backimmediately   afterwards and saysanother great show.   Thank youfor sharing your numbers.   It has helped inform   my expectationsfor my V for V show.   Lightning thrashes.   So this is one of thosevalues of value music   DJ sets.   I suppose sohe plays music.   I'm not sure if he talks   in the mean timehe probably would   about the music as well.   Introducing what   the next songthat is going to come up   value switches.   And then as you'relistening to that   and supporting that moneythen goes to the artist.  

So once again,this is all about helping   to support your favouriteartist, your creator,   and to be able   to send them a messageat the same time.   So me for example, withall of these messages,   they really,   they kind of needto know what they're   doing and if they don't   acknowledgeon the shows themselves,   it might be worthreaching out   via any of the socialmedia sites   and saying like, Hey,are you   receiving my messages?   Because I've done thatbefore.   And it kind of sucks to   to not   to thinkthat you're sending them   support,you're sending them money,   but it's just going outinto the wild   and then not actuallyrealising it.  

So this is just abouteducation.   People knowing that   you can actually senda message within the app.   And me, for example,it goes on to my discord,   it goes onto my telegramand I check the wallets   where like I'll be,where it says   the message in it as well.   So very helpfulin terms of that.   Just worth recognisingthat sometimes   peoplewon't necessarily know   that it's goingdirectly to them.   I see.   Still, I was listeningin, I see Taylor Williams   was listening in.Thank you very much.   I saw a chat beforesending some   some bignumbers coming through the   app. His streamingpayments were huge.  

They were like 600and something.   So thank you very much.   Chat that were   pretty much boostright in there themselves.   Silvio Dos Santos,Sam Sethi,   all of thesecoming through POD fans.   So very, very much   appreciated to be ableto see the streaming.   I don't normally see   streamingfrom the other apps,   but with the wayPod fans is set   up, it's comingthrough into my actual   section hereof being able to see that.   So that'swhy I'm calling them out.   So if you are streamingand I haven't   called you out, apologiesfor that.   It's just not as visibleas it is through   the through Pod fans.  

And then I've gottwo last ones here.   They came in today,very early morning for me.   One just says Satoshisdots stream 50 cent   using breez. Okaythank you.   It's it'srare to see a breez   one come in   so I really doappreciate it   and this is from premitiveone and he says Satoshis   dot stream.   This is Prem from Miami.   I host bitcoinbrunch Sundays and co-host   the Saturday NightLight podcast.   Keep up the good work.   Thank you very much,my friend.   One, two, three, four.   Sent using brazeand I do appreciate that   you change your namebecause a lot of those   that come throughfrom breeze a mint lion   and I've been guiltyof this myself.  

You have to go into thekind of top left corner   and change your name,which is I never even   I don't think you couldchange it before,   but now you can, which isvery, very useful.   So yeah.   Thank you   everyone who helpedsupport the show   to stream in really warmsmy heart.   Gladdens me   that all of this stuffis getting used   and that people are beingable to support their   favourite artists,   the content creatorsand things like that.   And it.   Yeah,it just is just so cool.   It's such,   it makes so much intuitivesense   to be ableto send a message   and supportsomeone directly   within the podcastingapp versus,   you know, imagineif you're on Instagram   and you're watching   and you'relooking at someone   who puts really greatphotography up there   and imagineyou're what you're seeing   all these photos,you're appreciating it,   you want to reach outto them or support them.  

And so you have togo onto Twitter   or you have to send theman email.   It makes zero sense.   And it's just so it'san extra barrier,   whereas all of this stuffis just   lightningquick, lightning quick   and makes so much senseto do it within the actual   app itself.   So I'm so glad   all of these appsare coming along   and there's so manydifferent options as well.   So there's no realexcuse to say,   Oh, I don't like this appbecause   blah, blah, blah, Well,   you know, try outone of the other   eight different one, sevendifferent ones that are   that havethese functionalities. So   which gets   me on to my, my little tipsection here.  

So what's, what'sreally powerful about   all of thisis they all play   well and followa similar style.   So if you look forif you've got a podcast   in 2.0 up in new to this,you want to help support   a podcast   because they mentionedlike, Hey,   you can do this viaa podcasting 2.0 up   you like, okay,well I go in and I get it.   The experience of   using a new app is like,I don't know what this is,   I don't knowhow to do this.   All I would say is, one,you know, check out this.   I've donea full walkthrough   so you can get   a visual representationof what you need to do,   troubleshootevery problem.  

But I hopethis has helped.   But you can also just   look for thingslike lightning bolts,   like the wordsboost and value for value.   They typicallywill show up and they're   typically withinthe actual episode itself.   So once you're playing,   that's when you see on the   screen, Oh, I can do this.   And if you have an app   which doesn't do that,you know, it's   it might be worthreaching out to,   to someoneto to that app developer.   So say you're on overcast   you might as wellor podcast addict   might be worth   reaching out to themand to say   like hey I,I want to do this,   but you don'thave it in your app.  

Are you going to supportthat or things like this?   And you could even   just tryout one of these ones now.   And by their ownadmission, these,   these guys aren'tcompeting with each other.   So Oscar, Merry, Sam, theyou know,   what's his namefrom costume   Castamatic Franco CelerioMitch from Pod versus   they would all saythey're not competing   with each otherfor these functionalities.   All of these   functionalities are waysof drawing people in from   the bigger apps.   And so it's likebecause a lot of them   won, for example,don't play nice Spotify,   they they trying to create   their ownlittle walled garden.  

I've talked about thisbefore   whereall of these features   that we have, it'sbecause everyone's playing   nice and agreeingto play by the rules.   But Spotify is like,   No, I'm going tocreate my own chapters   and I don'treally give a shit   if it doesn't workelsewhere.   I'm doing this justbecause it works for me.   I'm going to create video,I'm going to do this.   I'm not goingto send out RSS feeds.   It's they'renot playing nice.   And so the   if you want to usesome of these features,   you'llhave to reach out to them.   But I personally don'tsee them ever   adoptingthese sort of things   because they don'tthey don't want to.  

There's other reasons.   So for example, Apple justdoesn't really innovate.   They've been ableto create chapters   and transcripts and things   like this foreverif they wanted to.   It's not hard technically,   but they just don'twant to innovate.   They don't want to createthese new things.   Whereas the podcastingnamespace and what allows   all of these differentapps to come in   and create thingsin an environment   which is fosteringthat kind of open source,   that ethos of everyone'shere to,   to create something new,to innovate,   to do something funand exciting and a way   to play by the ruleswhich aren't set in stone.  

You have to do this rules.   You can helpcreate the rules yourself.   So all of these appdevelopers,   they've all madesuggestions,   help improving thisand to make things work.   And it's it's really coolenvironment to come into.   I really like it   all these other appsfor example Google   they just straight   don't care they just gotrid of the Google podcast.   I think it was the thirdor fourth biggest app   in terms of downloadsand the like.   Now I'm just goingto scrap it   and go over the YouTubemusic   doesn't really make sense.   It's probably notavailable in your country,   but you'll be fine.  

And it's like, All right,well why?   Why should I care?   Why should I   go over to YouTube musicif you're not   creating new things   and doing stuff,which is awesome,   such as this,   you know,being able to boost   and podcastsand support creators and   make the world a betterplace, dare I say. So   a lotof what you'd like as well   tends to be drivenby small things.   So I've I'm very muchusing these apps   because I love the ability   to to boost in youyourself.   That might be the fifth   priority for you,but you really enjoy   the audio experience.   Okay, well, maybe trygoing on to cosmetic.  

Give that a try.   You might really likeaccessibility features.   Okay.   Well pop versehas that for   or you like the ability   to be ableto play on your desktop   and then play   on your phoneand it automatically knows   exactly where you arein that in the set.   In that same pointin the episode   in Podverse,   does that great   Podfans, I imagine, willdo something like that.   You might like the abilityto have something   that goes really quickand is lightning fast   and just works basicallyevery time, you know, go   over to Curiocaster   You might wantthe social aspects.   This is where it's worthgoing over to.  

FOUNTAINand being able to interact   with peoplewithin the actual app.   You can create a littlesocial environment there.   You might want somethingthat is more better   for discoverability.   This is where I would saypodcast guru kicks in.   You might want something   that is moreof a functionality   to be able to use   the wallets to be ableto send this Bitcoin   and stuffyou've got elsewhere.   Use something like Breez.   You might just wantsomething that looks nice   and has likea couple of cool features.   Try out podfriend,you know, there's   so many different reasons   to try them outand you'll find out   eventually like, okay,I really like this one   just for thisone little feature it has.  

And the cool thing is   that there is so manydifferent ones here.   So that's a lot ofinformation for you there.   I'm going to go to my app   and servicehighlight here.   Look,   the list of all of these   can be foundat podcast app Ask.com,   or if you go to podcastindex dot org slash ops,   you'll also that's whereit eventually links to   this.   What I've shown here is   probably onlygoing to be relevant for   I don't know,six months, 12 months   if that because   there's so much new thingscoming out,   there's so many excitingthings happening   and new apps are poppingup all the time.  

Two weeks ago,   Pod fans was not availableon the mobile.   A year and a half ago,   a couple of theseapps weren't.   I wouldn't have talked   about podcast guru,for example.   So in the recentlyadded stuff,   all of these thingsare a changing, adaptable.   And so if you go tothis location podcast apps   .com, it's   got a good listshowing there and showing   all the featuresthat they have.   What you'll noticeis that the ordering   there is based on   how much they've   adopted ofthe new namespace is   do they have portal, dothey have value timeslots,   do they have transcripts,do they have chapters?  

All ofthese sorts of things   play a role in that.   And so what you'll noticein that big list   and you'll see onyour screen at the moment   is that the the ones which   have most ofthese features   are the ones that I talkedabout just now,   because these appdevelopers, CEB,   said they want to make ita better experience.   And so   you'll see on the bottomof that list,   there's a whole   bunch of appsthat are there,   but they might have onlyadopted one or two   or three of the tags,   and certainly not the mostimportant one to me,   which is the the boostto grabbing   to be being able to sendvalue back and forth.  

So that'sthings like you know,   Sphinx pod Stationand even pod   on the podcastindex website   where you can sendin boostagrams as well.   I didn't talk about thosejust because   they're not reallyin development.   They aren't that   interesting of an app perse to go to for example.   So you know the podcastindex website, that's   that'smore of a directory.   It's not really an apppod station.   Yeah,you can listen to it,   but it's a browserextension, which   I haven't heard muchabout him, the developer   creating and making thingsmore exciting   and doing stuff with that.  

So I didn't really talkabout that.   And Sphinx   was oneof the first places   you could actually sendand boost to Grams,   but they've gonea very different route   and they're not   particularlya podcasting app.   So I didn't talkabout those ones.   But in the futureI probably will talk about   more thatthat will come through.   So if you just want   to keep aheadof the latest things,   the podcasting 2.0 show   and and even produceweekly   probablythe best places to   to learn more   about   what's going onin the app world   and you'll probablyhear podcasters   when they startfinding out   about this stuffsaying like,   hey, try outsome of these apps.  

And so   here's a good list of   them. Is his eight,   which I think arepretty rock solid.   Let'swrap up this episode.   So it's the valuefor value section.   I was for this show,   whileat least for the season   I've been giving 15% of mymy splits here   to someone who I thinkis worthy of development,   of doing cool, really,really cool things.   You'll notice if you goonto the miyamoto's show,   I have   I think a six, five or six   app developerswithin my splits there,   and I've been doing thatfor it for a fair while.   But one person I haveneglected   was Jasonfrom Podcast Guru.  

So 15% of this episodeis going to go to him   because I have supportedmost of the other app   developers,or at least the ones   at the top of the listthat I use a lot,   and I'm startingto use podcast guru more,   so I really appreciate him   and just want to sendsome support his way.   I might be doing an extravideo, really focusing   on the step by stepand guideline on how to   boost through podcast guru   because we're talkingchatting back and forth   and it soundedlike something that   might be useful to himand useful   to me at the same time.   So that could beanother little video   like this popping upon, on.  

I'll probably post iton the main models channel   or if podcaster has aYouTube maybe on there.   But yeah,just want to support.   I'm very big on   supporting app developers   and so if you supportthis show,   you support the models,   you are supporting   these app developersat the same time   to creatinga better product,   to making an applicationto rule all the other   and not tryingto rule them,   but certainly to,   to create something thatI believe is better than   things like and Apple who   dare I say theydon't care about creators   putting out thereI'm set up   so how can you supportthis show?  

Well, there's threedifferent ways   you can do this throughtime, talent and treasure.   Look to share this episodewith someone.   I've done this in audio   and video form,so I would recommend   for this onein particular.   The video aspectis pretty important.   So sending thisto someone,   being being linkingto this episode, in fact,   if you a podcasterand you're recommending   to your   to your friends,to your supporters,   to whoever it is,   hey, I'd love you to helpsupport the show.   This is howyou can visually do it.   You need to get a new app,   his eight different ones,   which you can test out,have a look at,   go through this,walk through.  

If any of them seeminteresting   intriguing to you, youknow, grab one of them.   So linking to the videothat I've created for   this would be very,very helpful.   I would very muchappreciate that.   Joining me live as well.As always, kind of fun.   I do enjoythe interactions.   Hasn't been too much today   and it was a bitof a weird one.   I saw one here asking   way from the beginningof that video,   so I should have been   a bit more clearat the start too,   to say   like press the videonow that I am   because I set up thislittle one beforehand.   So the video you'll seeit's the Schmidt live no   looks beautiful one.  

You can join me.   You can help support mewith some talent.   So I think I've set upthis room pretty good.   But if you're still here   hearing some audio,   some feedback,   if you think there is anapp that I should be   have talked about more,   if there's something   that you think I missed,please reach out to me   and I'll I'll dolike a little make good   or I'll talk about thaton the next episode.   Resources that are similarto the ethos   of of what these appsare doing and hell,   even some like bookrecommendations   or other appsthat you think   are really interestingor enjoyable,   anything that you thinkwould be useful to me   in creating the Valuefor Value podcast   and creating a betterpodcast and talking about   ways that   digital content creatorscan can be supported.  

I'm very intrigued to know   all of anyand all of those things.   And then the last one,you know what to do.   I just given you   a whole frickinbunch of things   that you can do to helpsupport this.   So try out one of theseapps is all they ask.   You don't haveto boost to me.   So the mere mortals,the minimalist book   reviewsor to the value for value   just boost to a creatorand help spread the love,   spread the joy,   all of the splitsand stuff.   I don't think I need totalk more about that, so   we'll leave it therefor today.   Thank you very much.   Only three more   episodescoming out for this season   whereI will be talking about   a bit of a clipsand compilations section,   so showing how casingyou can do value for value   as a as a podcasterand the kind of techniques   very similar   to what I did in   season two,which was showcasing   how other podcasterswere doing that.  

I think I'll do another   read through of that,   but in the wholebig bunch section   I'm going to be talkingabout video   and how video you can helpsupport   video creatorsthrough value for value.   And then I'll do a littlesum up and farewell.   Not to worry,because I'm pretty sure   I'll be startingseason four   only afterlike a couple of weeks   or a month breakor something, because   I'm really enjoying thisat the moment,   having a lot of fun it so.   Yep. Sothat's it for the moment.   We'll be backsame time next week   doing the same thing,going over value for value   and finding out how youcan help support creators.  

So we'll leave it therefor today.   Chao for now, Kyrin out.