Give me some stats ..... stat! In Ep#48 we're going to view some charts of the Podcasting 2.0 namespace adoption, reflect on where we've come from and realise why your end goals are ultimately more important than growth.
Huge thanks to Chris Fisher, McIntosh, Steve Webb, Cole McCormick, The Golden Dragon & Cardboardgiraffe for supporting the show. What a week!
15% of this episode is going to Ron Ploof for providing some very handy v4v graphs.
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https://griddlecakes.com/nstrends/
https://griddlecakes.com/v4vtrends/
https://stats.podcastindex.org/v4v
https://livewire.io/podcast-index-stats-visualized/
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Huge thanks to Chris Fisher, McIntosh, Steve Webb, Cole McCormick, The Golden Dragon & Cardboardgiraffe for supporting the show. What a week!
15% of this episode is going to Ron Ploof for providing some very handy v4v graphs.
Handy chart links:
https://griddlecakes.com/nstrends/
https://griddlecakes.com/v4vtrends/
https://stats.podcastindex.org/v4v
https://livewire.io/podcast-index-stats-visualized/
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Give me some stats ... stat! Welcome everyone to another episode of the Value 4 Value Podcast. My name is Kyrin, host of the Mere Mortals and Mere Mortals Book Reviews, but also this one, which is for digital content creators, those who are trying to connect more deeper with their audience, connect more deeply with them, and to also monetise their show to be able to find a way of creating a sustainable lifestyle. I suppose with what they're creating, whether this be through podcasts predominantly is what I'm talking about here, but hopefully also in other manners of digital connection mediums.
As we've talked about previously with music and with writing and things like this. So this topic for today, I'm going to be talking about podcasting 2.0 stats is the V4 the ecosystem growing and the thing with stats is, look, I could just be a nerdy thing on my part, but everyone seems to love stats and graphs, you know, and I wanted to stick, I suppose, with the general trends of what is happening with values for value and with podcasting to point out is this stuff gaining adoption? And I'll do a kind of personal case study probably in about a month's time of my actual experiences using the value for value model and get you some real data on on how you know how many satoshis have come and how many people have supported the show and things like this.
So that's one for for a month's time where I do my kind of like big recaps of three quarters and things like this. So let's go into some of the current stats that we see from podcasting to Pono, and this is definitely in episode you want to be listening to on a podcasting app which does show the chapters and images and links because I'm going to be referencing quite a few graphs and things like this. And the first graph, let's talk with adoption of tags and in particular I'm going to be looking at the two tags related to many, many, many, many.
So the first this being value blocks, which as I mentioned in one of the previous episodes, episode number or let me bring up my um, my actual numbers here, I'm pretty sure it was 43 and 44. Yeah, this was related to micropayments and boostagrams. So the value block putting a lightning address in your actual feed for people to be able to boost in via all of these cool new apps. And we can see on the chart here these, these charts go from about five months worth of data. So starting on the 1st of May 2023, you Americans with your 5/1/ 2023 so confusing and then going to basically the start of September and you can see pretty linear chart going up from around 13,000 113,200 value blocks all the way up to about 15,000 as of September of 2023.
So we can see there's a a, you know, four or five month period that there's been a jump of about 2000 podcasts jumping up. So that's pretty cool. And then the one below, it is related to the funding tag. And so this is being able to put a link for people to support you into. I suppose you buy or, or into your, your podcast and it will show up as like a little dollar sign within certain podcasting apps which people can click and that will take them to a like a patron link or to a PayPal, which is what I have on this podcast, or to perhaps a buy me a coffee.
It's it's basically a way, it's a link that people you can send people to which will be able for them to support you with the Fiat. And so once again, going from May of 2023 to September and we can see that was about 35,500 podcasts with the funding tag in it. And this has jumped up to about 42,400, something like that, 42,000. So adoption of tags related to money. Now that's pretty good. That's a 12% and 15% in four months respectively for those two graphs there. And this is where you can go. Okay. Well, obviously there's quite a bit of adoption going on here.
Is this a linear or is this an exponential one? It's kind of hard to tell with just four months. Well, I mean, like with four months, it's relatively obvious. It's it's a linear type graph. But I'm going to talk a little bit more about how this perhaps isn't reflective of the overall numbers or of compared to the amount of podcasts that are out there. So let's jump onto the next one here. And this is a graph showing the amounts of satoshis that have been boosted in on a seven day period and on a 90 day period, as well as the amount of transactions and the amount of unique senders doing this.
And so for reference, I've taken the data from this from a couple of different sources. Most of it's coming from the podcasting 2.0 API, which is basically the way for for you to access the podcast index, which has all of this data on, on, you know, the amount of podcasts that they have in their system, what sort of tags they're using, and people have created graphs from this and I'll give them a reference in the kind of end of the show notes and things like this. But you can also find the chapter in the chapter links in the there's a link to where you can find these graphs as well.
So these two graphs which are just showing basically that it's kind of been relatively stable, I guess on a seven day period or a 90 day period for the amount of boosts and things coming in. And so I've got a couple of little takeaways right here. So the correlation of the lines, what you see is basically the amount of sets that are being Satoshi is being boosted in the amount of transactions and the amount of unique senders. They roughly follow each other, especially on the seven day period. You can see when when there's less people boosting in, there's less support and there's less amount of transactions.
And this is, I think, just a good check to go, okay, are people are listeners who are tuning into podcasts and supporting their favourite podcast is, you know, is this just being reliant on a couple of individual people or is it the amount of people all roughly behave the same way? And so kind of just to illustrate this, you know, imagine if you had ten people who were the biggest supporters and they were far outweighing their support in in whatever shows that they wanted to. And if perhaps for, you know, they went on holiday or a couple of them went away or, you know, didn't access a podcast for whatever day or things like this, if they were the ones who were really dominating the charts and were having an outsized impact, you would see you'd only have one less unique listener.
But the whole support amount or the transaction amount would drop dramatically, which is not what you see. What you see is that all of these lines roughly correlate with each other, which means the people who are listening and who are supporting, they're all roughly kind of taking the same amount of actions, the amount of support they might use is is varying and dependent on, you know, the person. I guess, though, some people who are perhaps more wealthier, they might be willing to send in, you know, 50 bucks to a show really regularly, you know, once a week or once a day basis, who knows?
Whereas other people who are more like myself, who don't have 50 bucks to spend daily on on on their favourite podcasts, they use smaller amounts. But where you can say, okay, the lines roughly match up. So when I'm talking about this, I'm really looking at the the seven day chart. Another takeaway to see here is that on average there's about 109 sets sent per transaction. And so if you were to equate this in to dollar terms, it would be about $0.02. I think this would be in US dollars, I think, or Australian, you know, it's it's roughly the same when it's at these low, low levels.
So what do you guys use that pennies in the US And the takeaway from this is I guess just micropayments work. If you were seeing transactions of this amount and they weren't reaching the podcaster, Look, I can just say on a personal note they are reaching to me and they're not all being spent on these for, you know, the amount of like PayPal for example, if you were to use that and they've got a base fee and then they take a chunk of percentage on top of that, a lot of these apps do have a percentage that they ask for to, you know, to help support their development to for providing all this infrastructure.
But what you can see is like, okay, the transactions amounts are pretty small, but they're still working. It's not like there's a big gap between what people are sending in to me and what I'm actually receiving. And yes, I know this because I do tons of test boost to myself and to other people and I can see that they're receiving it. So, you know, micropayments work. The Lightning Network is actually working. So that's a good takeaway from that. Another one is that there's a roughly on average about 300 people per day and the rough amount that they're supporting in a single given day is about one dollars as well.
So obviously this is going to be changing depending on some, you know, some people would probably be sending $10 a day and then others would be sending, you know, $0.10 a day. But it all averages out to that amount. And what you can see is $1 a day is is certainly affordable for most people. And this is probably about how much I'm personally spending maybe a bit more. And it's I guess it's just affordable is the key takeaway. So one, you know, it's affordable to be sending these small amounts per day, $1 per day, and it's actually reaching the destination.
Whereas if I was trying to send a dollar per day using PayPal, it wouldn't work because they take, you know, 50 something sense of that plus an extra thing on top. And so only what $0.30 of that would of that would actually reach the the podcast, whereas in this case it would be, you know, 95%, 97%, something like that. So one, you know, it's affordable to do as a listener and it's actually working and getting to the correct destination. And then the final one here, which isn't exactly related to this chart, but, you know, if you take the 90 days, you can see that there is about $26,000 us being sent through the the Lightning Network to podcasters.
So this is about 100 million sets, which is a Bitcoin essentially. And if you take this over a yearlong period, that would be about $100,000. So it's still not a crazy amount of money. You know, if you were to divide that with the amount of people with valuable as we've seen, which is 15,000, you know, that would only be like for $4.6 per podcast, something like that. But this is not the best way of looking at it. And I'll talk about that in a second. And if you compare this to so $100,000 over a yearlong period for using the value for value, lightning transaction payments with Bitcoin, and if you compare it to like the rough ad market, for example, for podcasting, which I believe is around the $2 billion range, you can see per year, you could say, okay, there's there's a fair amount of room to grow here.
And this is where I just want to put this kind of caveat, which is it can be easy to spin all these numbers in a positive or negative way. So if you wanted to put it in a negative way, you can just say, you know, most people aren't using these tools to support verse lotsa and in this case you could go, you know, it's flat lining the ecosystem's not growing and sure more people, more podcasters are putting value tags and funding tags in there in their podcast. But are they actually getting supported more. Oh look at the 90 day. It's it's flat and it's not growing.
People aren't supporting more. That's kind of the negative way of putting on it. The positive way is like you got to remember that all of this stuff is is kind of bell curves. And it's really only when you take the charts over a longer period where you can see it's been basically exponential because none of this existed two years ago. So hell yeah, it's growing. You know, now people are sending a Bitcoin every 90 days through this to their favourite podcasters. And yeah, sure, it's not. Once again, if you divided the total amount by the amount of podcasters who with a value block, you could, you'd go, okay, it's nothing, it's $6 per podcast or like that's not in a 90 day period or sorry, in a in a year long period that's, that's worthless.
Like, you know, what's the point? But once again, it's this is kind of like a bell curve or exponential thing where look most podcast with this in there they've just chucked it in. They haven't told their podcast, their favourite, they haven't told their listeners, Hey, can you support me using these methods? They've just put it in there. So if you don't ask it, nothing's going to come through. And I can just say personally, I have been asking and I have been, you know, very vocal about my listeners supporting me and I have certainly earned more than $6 for a year long period.
So the it's important to note, I guess, that all of this is not you can't just average things out and say this isn't working because it's such small amounts on an average. If you look at your kind of end goals or what you're trying to do, you can see, okay, this is actually getting to a period where or I suppose an amount a value which is sustainable for for actually having a lifestyle to be able to to live upon. And I'll talk about that certainly more in the case study that I do next month. But I can just say, you know, for me it's not there yet, but it's getting there and it's certainly a lot closer than I was a year ago.
And so, yeah, this was just, I suppose, something to look at. And there was, I guess some with the funding tag, for example, I have no idea how much it's going through PayPal or Patron on or buy me a coffee. I don't know these things, so I can't see those numbers. So it is just encouraging. If you go back to that, that first graph, which was with the feeds with value books and feeds with the funding tag in the second chapter, that is just where you can see, okay, well podcasts are actually adopting is they are starting to to put them in their feed.
So it doesn't mean nothing. There is something there. And then the the last one graph that I have here is that it's a couple of things. So I'm showing the total podcast in the index and how often these are getting published. I've got a little piece of information down the bottom left here, which is showing the amount of podcast with valuable transcripts, funding to chapters, medium music, medium video. So just a lot of the tags. And then the top is showing these over time, starting from the what's that, November of 2022 up until September of 2023. So a bit of a longer period.
Once again, like you can just see all of these lines of the linear, but they're going up and there are a lot more podcasters using the funding tag transcripts, valuable chapters of music and of video. And I suppose my takeaway from all of this of the, you know, 4.2 million podcasts are in the in the index. There's probably about, you know, 400,000 of them that are really active as in they've they've posted something in the last 60 days, in the last two months because a lot of podcasts have been created and people aren't working on them. And what you can say with this, okay, you know, all of the 10% of active shows and sorry of all of these shows, 10% of them have put a funding tag or a value block in there.
In there. Well, definitely the funding tag and maybe the value block as well. So, you know, my assumption here being because the funding tag is such a relatively new thing, it's likely only that shows which are active are putting it in. So when you put it that way, all of the all the podcasters who are actually creating podcasts at this moment, 10% of them have a mechanism for their their audience to support them within their actual RSS feed. You can say, okay, well, you know, the takeaway from this is supporters decide this. These are podcasters who are actually going to the effort of saying, here's a way that you can support me.
And so if you're taking this in, like the value for value approach, you go, okay, well, this is obviously where people are wanting to be supported by their listeners and not relying only on an advertising or a sponsorship model or something like this. So that I thought was a kind of cool little tech way to go. All right. Well, you know, 10% of shows, that's that's actually a fair chunk, especially because this all is so decentralised. This all is, you know, people are doing self hosting. There's so many different hosts from, you know, Buzz Sprout to RSS dot com to captivate, you know, transistor the bubble.
There's so many different places that people can go to. And not all of these hosts have made it easy for the podcasters to put these types in as well. So just on my portion, I would say like, okay, this is a pretty encouraging sign. Another one, new mediums being used. This is where you can see the medium tag of music and of video and especially music over the last two month period since the the bootcamp all came out since the ability to use value time splits, which I talked about quite extensively in episode 46 and in 45 and 46, that's where you can see, okay, people actually using these mediums as well, these new ones.
So it's not just supported podcasters who are reaping the benefits from this. It is the other musicians, it is people who create video, for example, and so yeah, just as a kind of general summing up on the current stats, once again, if you want to put a negative light on it, you can. But I think on the positive way for me just in this, you know, 90 day rough period that I was looking at, it shows that it's sustainable. It shows that people aren't supporters aren't dropping off, that there is money flowing through the system and that the podcasters themselves are starting to adopt all of these tags.
So I think on a personal note for myself, I'm looking at in a positive life light and the way that I really look at this is let's go for a little blast to the past. And by that I mean and you know, three years ago because the podcasting 2.0 now, it only started in September of 2020. So, you know, almost exactly three years ago. And just looking back, it's important to remember how all how new all of this is. And me personally, I joined the kind of podcasting 2.0 in July of 2021. So I was a little bit late to the game. I was, what, like eight months behind, something like that.
And I've got a little screenshot here which is showing Adam Cory of and I bookmark this because I at the time, because I thought it was pretty cool. And he's replying to Daniel J. Lewis and James Cridland from Pod News and he's saying, you know, it's no longer important how many people use an app, it's how much value an app generates as my new metric. And so he's saying, here's the podcast index daily metric. And because the podcast index asks for a 1% split or from the apps to help support the index and help make all of this happen, that's how we get all of this data.
And so what he's got here is just a little, I suppose, screenshot capture of of how much has been flowing through the system. And it was, you know, like this is over the last day 18,000 stats through braze for 599 transaction costs a matic 1600 fountain the big baller 23,258 And then you're saying you know Apple and Spotify bring zero valued me which is crazy because if you go okay well from September of 2020, that was literally nothing. There was no index, there was no Bitcoin, there was no lightning. Some of these apps didn't even exist. And then now a year later, so this is in, you know, October of 2021, there's six apps and they're sending about 60,000 stats per day.
Okay. Well, now, that's not a huge, crazy amount. Let's jump to three years later. Well, now it's 12 about 12 apps and that's sending 1.5 million per day. Okay. Well, that's a that's a pretty big jump there. And so there was a there was actually a point right near the beginning where I had enabled about three or four of my podcast with value with the value tag. And I remember distinctly that at that time there was only about 300 to 500 podcasts with it enabled at all. And so I, you know, I dominated 1% of the value market more hahaha. And it was just such a kind of new revolutionary thing like and it was hard, goddamn, it was hard trying to figure out all of the stuff you had to do so many things to, to, to get onto it.
But I can certainly say it's improved dramatically with places like Fountain allowing you to help put stats in to you to to do it in a I guess a method by really, really easily. If you're a podcast host just putting in your your email that will create a wallet for you. They'll do all the stuff brilliant. It's there and it's ready to go and you can actually start using some of the actual podcasting host now, such as Blueberry, to, to be able to put this information in your feed. Okay. And then the final portion with this is just does all of this matter? Does growth matter?
Is this a healthy ecosystem? Is this actually, you know, how we go into the moon? Is this, you know, metrics wise, 12%, 6%, 100%. It's like, are we are we growing? And I think the important thing to remember is just there's no point if it doesn't reach your end goal. And it's important to consider what is your end goal? Is it just to cover the costs of your podcast for creating it? Is it a little bit of bonus pocket money, perhaps. So it's just a nice to have. Are you looking for a full time income? That's kind of the position that I'm more at. Are you looking to become a millionaire?
Are you looking to become a billionaire? These are the important things to consider when you're looking at the value for value system and the ecosystem and all of these numbers. I was just saying here I want to reiterate, which I was one of the things that really attracted me to podcasting to point out is that nobody's going to become rich from this. And if someone does become rich, you know, I'm talking multi-millionaire or billionaire level, something's gone wrong because this is meant to be for everyone. And so we've seen, okay, there's 15,000 podcasts with the value tag enabled in it.
We've seen, okay, there's 300 people roughly per day sending money to their favourite podcaster. And this is going to be different people as well. It's not the same 300 people because, you know, some people, you don't listen to podcasts every single day and this is where it's just going, okay, well, what do you want? Do you want to become a billionaire or a millionaire? This is probably isn't the place for you. The value for value model probably isn't the way to do it. You probably want to go down a much more, I would say, riskier route, which is going for the kind of like Joe Rogan or being picked up like a by a massive, massive podcasting company or just creating something so viral.
So, you know, it's very, very, very hard to do these things, whereas the value for value, it's much more of a steady growth. You know, you keep plugging away at your podcast, you be consistent, you make sure that your ask is really good and make sure that you're doing things well and that people know about it. You keep providing value to your audience and over time this will accumulate and you will be able to start sustaining yourself or reaching these little goals of covering costs. I'm at that moment, at the moment where, yes, I'm earning enough to cover costs for the podcast. Brilliant.
In fact, I'm probably reached the stage where it's now like, Ooh, I got a little bit of bonus pocket money here. This is awesome. I need to keep creating something great, something, you know, magical, something that draws people in, being consistent, providing this value. So that I can start reaching this next stage of, you know, a full time income of being able to do this and being supported by it and being able to live in the world and pay rent and food and all of these sorts of nice things. But, you know, I'm not looking for the million dollars if I if I can get, you know, 40 grand a year Services Australia.
And so that would probably be like, I don't know, 30, 25, something like that, that I would consider myself blessed. I would consider myself like, I've done it, I've made it. And that that's what I'm trying to do. And this is where it's just like, okay, you know, all of these things. Does does growth matter? It only matters into your context if if you're reaching the goals that you're looking for, that's that's perfectly fine. And you don't you don't want to, for example, be looking at a value for value. And it's like, what type of podcast will get me the most support from using the value for value method?
In this case, you'd probably be saying a Bitcoin podcast because this is where using the Bitcoin as the mechanism for sending it. Obviously with the Fiat and the funding, well, it could be any sort of show. No agenda, for example, is probably one of the biggest they and theirs is about news and media but it's, it's depend on you spent on you to figure out what you want and all of these stats and metrics I gave you just here. They're nice things to know. They're nice to know, okay, this is actually growing, at least on a year long timescale, on years and years.
But if you're looking at this for like the next 90 days and you're saying, I want to capture this, I want to get all of this money or something like this, this isn't the place for you. This isn't the place to be doing this. It's it's a long term thing that you need to work out. And yeah, that's kind of just my my little encouragement, therefore, for that and trying to squash down any unrealistic expectations of growth because growth doesn't matter. It's about how you live in the world and it's about how you feel and interact with your audience.
That's the whole point of the value for value model and another point of it is to thank some people who are helping to be supporting this show. And man, this is probably one of the best weeks I've ever had. So before I get on to that, Mr. Adam Curry, can you please take it away with the Grand Lounge music Welcome to the Value for Value. Mr. Graham Lounge. Okay, I'm going to do this in a different method than normal because I've got quite a few coming in here. And so once again, a boostagram is a message you can send within your podcasting app. It will go directly to me with the message with a payment of satoshis, i.e.
money, and this helps to support the show, helps to support me, helps me to reach that goal I'm looking for, of creating a sustainable income for myself to be able to continue to create these shows, to create the Value for value podcast and the main models and the book reviews because I want to provide value in that way. This is the way that I want to, to live in the world, and it's very much appreciated when I when I get these in and it helps give me some good content for the show. So starting off from lowest to highest, we have cardboard giraffe 300.
Yeah, 333 sets sent using fountain. It gives me a yellow love heart emoji. Oh, God. WOODRUFF Thank you so much. Coming in hot after him is a little test boost that I did for myself because I had to change up some things in my feed. I will talk about that shortly. And then we have the Golden Dragon, He says. Thank you for this podcast. I am boosting the pledge I made on my second to last blog post over at Golden Blog a thon dot com where bearded bearded tech and I am looking to implement V for be on blogs and valuable information here sending all the stats the blog has made so far.
Dude, that is man, I'm hot warmed. I'm so appreciative of that because that's that's you know your hard work and your choosing to send that over to here. I have actually checked out his blog and he's got some pretty cool information on there. This actually has been something I've been struggling a little bit with, mostly just because I want to make it easy for people to boost me. And so I've tried implementing a couple of things on my own website. If you go many models podcast dot com such support, you can kind of see what I've got going on there. It's not as good a model as a method as I would like.
And so I'm actually I might be doing an episode on, on what he's working on over here because I think it is useful for kind of the tech side of things as text, text and tech side of things. So thank you very much. Mr. Golden Dragon. I did look up your name, but I've I've forgotten, unfortunately. Sorry. Sorry. My friend are coming straight after him. We've got Mr. Cole McCormick from the America Plus podcast with his favourite boost of 5492 sent using Fountain as well. And he says I'm guilty of promoting a single app. Looking back, the decision was to simplify podcasting to point out and value for value narratives.
But as time moves on, I've been wanting more reach within the other modern podcasting apps. I need a succinct way to talk about the project and system and options upgrade and progress. A very cool couple. Yeah. This is look, it's it makes sense, right? It's it is such a complex ecosystem of so many different things. I talked about this on the models in a recent episode I did on on Bitcoin and I wasn't trying to convince people of, of that I've kind of come to my own conclusions after, you know, three years of studying it of, of saying, okay, yeah, this is actually legit.
But the problem with it is you have to learn all of these various side things. You have to learn about open source, you have to learn about finance, you have to learn about the monetary system of of lending, of what is money. And podcasting 2.0 is very similar, which is and value for value, which is, I think the on the surface is relatively simple. But if you want to understand podcasting 2.0, you do have to understand about the relationships between the hosts of listeners and the apps. You do have to understand about how RSS works. This is something I had to to really dive into.
You have to understand about, you know, what is tipping donations, how people feel when they when they donate to of the feedback loop of all of the topics I've talked about here. And so yeah, but look, it's a process of simplifying it and then expanding it I think, and doing it in a way that you can do. And yeah, I'm really keen to see how you progress with that call because it's it's hard. It's hard, man. I fully feel you coming in. Next we have a one which was actually coming from yesterday and it's an old and old podcast supporter for this show because I'm pretty sure I've seen his name before.
This is Steve Webb, the God caster. This is one of the guys, the gentleman who first found out about podcasting, you know, back in 2004, 2005 and was very quick on the bandwagon of of jumping on and creating a his podcast. And man, he's been doing it for a while and I'm on it and he says, Great show. Thanks for all the great info. 7777 stryper boost that using fountain again man Thank you. Thank you so much, Steve I really do appreciate that God is on my side with value for value. We have now coming in to some bigger baller boosts over here.
We've got Macintosh from generation Bitcoin, he says. How many episodes a week are you doing now? The laughing emoji face having trouble keeping up V fully V for V for life as too many fours in a, V for V for life or something like that. Macintosh 21,000, which is, I guess you'd call it a Bitcoin boost set sent using fountain. At the very moment, my friends, I'm doing one book review, I'm doing one value for value and I'm doing to me a modest one. So it's for those once upon a time where I was doing eight because I had another show called Prisoners in Spanglish, where I was doing book reviews in Spanish, and I was just doing conversation.
I was doing so much to book reviews a week that was way too much for actually feels pretty sustainable. I've been doing this for a little bit now and I feel this is probably about as much as I'd want to get to full four episodes a week of various different podcasts. And yeah, I think that's that's working well for me. So that's probably about roughly when I want to keep it up. And if you want to know more about Bitcoin, I'd actually recommend Generation Bitcoin because it's got some pretty handy episodes there. On how to learn about that.
And then finally, the biggest Baller of the Boosters, we've got Chris Las from Jupiter Broadcasting and he says thanks for the kind words boost enough to say you have nailed the ideas of V for V this is going to be my go to podcast for creators trying to wrap their noodle around all of this 60,000 sets sent using Fountain o. Thank you Chris, so much for that. It really does help. I appreciate it greatly and it also helps to support this show to keep things ticking over. And yeah, it's just it's really gratifying, man, to know that.
And yeah, look, this show, what I'm noticing from this is because I'm being so specific with my what I'm trying to do with it and who I'm trying to help. I'm noticing that it is, you know, kind of like paying the dividends and then both support and the the variations of support coming through of of, you know, people leaving comments on the on the YouTube mini, a YouTube video I made for the music podcast and things like this. So very, very much appreciated, my friend. Thank you so much for that and that wrapping up our value for value boostagram section here and yeah, if you want to know more about all of you know how much this is actually contributing to to I suppose the mere models because it all kind of falls under that brand I guess, for what myself and one are doing over there.
Yeah. Check out episode that we do in about that I'll do in about a month's time on here of the case study so you don't have to wait for that one people. There's my little a little teaser right here Before I go on, I do want to just say a big thanks to CSB for last week's episode. Of course, of everything that he was doing. If you were noticing while boosting in I didn't have him in the feed, had some problems with Fountain and so I'm actually going to move on to Blueberry and do everything via there. And so hopefully now everything will be a little bit smoother.
And this is where it's just like you've got to you've got to work at the stuff. It's a continual process of upgrading, of updating. I do this live, but I still don't have a chat yet. You know, there's so many things I need to do, so I just much appreciated for everyone sticking around for any problems that I encounter, any things that I do wrong. It's all it's all very much appreciated. So I'm going to go on to my little tip section here, and I got most of this information of these graphs of this data from participating and saving bookmarks on the podcast index.
Mastodon. I know I've given this tip before or this service highlight before, but there's no central authority for these things. There is no one place to go where it's like a V for these stats. So I have actually used the stats from Griddle Cakes dot com slash in and trends, which stands for namespace trends. And then he's got another one here. And this Ron proof and he's got another one called gridlock Eskom's slash V for the E trends. So this is a helpful way to look at the data and kind of make sense of everything. Another website to go to is stats dot podcast index dot org slash V for v.
I know it's not the easiest way of of grabbing these things, but that's, that's another way. And then there's another one Livewire dot io slash podcast what's that. Dash index dash dot stats visualised with a Z in the in the visualised and that one I can't remember who these graphs looks like they're John Spurlock so yeah data provided by the podcast index visualised by John Spurlock. So all of these sorts of graphs I found these out by saving bookmarks on the podcast index. Mastodon. So if you're interested in these things, you kind of just need to hang around there and you'll start to get information and you will find things out.
And my service highlight for this week, I actually want to pull out Fountain because one of the things that they do is they have their podcast charts. And so every day I believe they update this or at the very least every week and it shows, you know, which of the hottest shows in terms of the amount being boosted in to these shows, which episodes in particular are doing well. So if I just go here at the moment, it's there's a no agenda show, there's a Linux unplugged, there's a boostagram ball a podcasting two point 0, I can see like a Christian on here, I can see one financial one There's all sorts I can see one of Cole McCormick's shows on there as well.
There's a lot of different things going on here, so that's a useful way. And then there's brass section where you can see, okay, some people are boosting in in a relatively big amounts, 111,111 from Bitcoin rising to one of their favourite shows obviously Rabbit Hole recap. What's that? That's probably twenties $30 us So you know these amounts they do make a difference when they add up So very very cool to see and that's just another little app and service highlight I just wanted to give up And then finally the value for value section. Who am I going to give 15% of this week's boost and support to?
I'm going to give it to Ron Ploof, because these charts that I have made, I've used them pretty extensively and they have been very, very helpful. He wasn't the only one, of course, but I will actually get John Spurlock and thank him in a in a separate episode. Probably the the next one that I was hinting at, the charts, the personal one, because there's some other charts which are pretty good for that, which are more personal for me. But yeah, 15% for this week for for him for creating these cool things there. You know, it's something I would never be able to do myself, you know, accessing the podcast index API of knowing how to collect the data of creating a decent graph from this, of being able to automate it.
All of this stuff, which I don't know how to do yet, is immensely valuable because we get some information on what's actually happening. What are these things being adopted? Are people using them? So 15% to him for this week. So thank you very much, my friend. Ron, please. And I'm going to leave it there for today. Thank you, everyone, for joining another episode of the Value for Value podcast, the so many things I want to touch upon and just want to leave it on a high note of, you know, all of this stuff is getting adopted, but it's slow.
And so if you come in red hot, just expect like it's going to take a little bit of time, but over time it will dramatically change your life. And I can say my life has changed dramatically in this. You know, last three years since podcasting, 2.0 has has risen up. And in the last two and a half years that I've been an active participant. And it has immensely changed my life. And the value for value system is the I think, the way to go and is for all sorts of reasons. But from just what we've seen here today, it is growing, but it's a slow growth. So I don't I don't get too wild about it and that's it.
Thank you everyone for joining me and till the next episode, chao for now, Kyrin out.
Give me some stats ... stat! Welcome everyone to another episode of the Value 4 Value Podcast. My name is Kyrin, host of the Mere Mortals and Mere Mortals Book Reviews, but also this one, which is for digital content creators, those who are trying to connect more deeper with their audience, connect more deeply with them, and to also monetise their show to be able to find a way of creating a sustainable lifestyle. I suppose with what they're creating, whether this be through podcasts predominantly is what I'm talking about here, but hopefully also in other manners of digital connection mediums.
As we've talked about previously with music and with writing and things like this. So this topic for today, I'm going to be talking about podcasting 2.0 stats is the V4 the ecosystem growing and the thing with stats is, look, I could just be a nerdy thing on my part, but everyone seems to love stats and graphs, you know, and I wanted to stick, I suppose, with the general trends of what is happening with values for value and with podcasting to point out is this stuff gaining adoption? And I'll do a kind of personal case study probably in about a month's time of my actual experiences using the value for value model and get you some real data on on how you know how many satoshis have come and how many people have supported the show and things like this.
So that's one for for a month's time where I do my kind of like big recaps of three quarters and things like this. So let's go into some of the current stats that we see from podcasting to Pono, and this is definitely in episode you want to be listening to on a podcasting app which does show the chapters and images and links because I'm going to be referencing quite a few graphs and things like this. And the first graph, let's talk with adoption of tags and in particular I'm going to be looking at the two tags related to many, many, many, many.
So the first this being value blocks, which as I mentioned in one of the previous episodes, episode number or let me bring up my um, my actual numbers here, I'm pretty sure it was 43 and 44. Yeah, this was related to micropayments and boostagrams. So the value block putting a lightning address in your actual feed for people to be able to boost in via all of these cool new apps. And we can see on the chart here these, these charts go from about five months worth of data. So starting on the 1st of May 2023, you Americans with your 5/1/ 2023 so confusing and then going to basically the start of September and you can see pretty linear chart going up from around 13,000 113,200 value blocks all the way up to about 15,000 as of September of 2023.
So we can see there's a a, you know, four or five month period that there's been a jump of about 2000 podcasts jumping up. So that's pretty cool. And then the one below, it is related to the funding tag. And so this is being able to put a link for people to support you into. I suppose you buy or, or into your, your podcast and it will show up as like a little dollar sign within certain podcasting apps which people can click and that will take them to a like a patron link or to a PayPal, which is what I have on this podcast, or to perhaps a buy me a coffee.
It's it's basically a way, it's a link that people you can send people to which will be able for them to support you with the Fiat. And so once again, going from May of 2023 to September and we can see that was about 35,500 podcasts with the funding tag in it. And this has jumped up to about 42,400, something like that, 42,000. So adoption of tags related to money. Now that's pretty good. That's a 12% and 15% in four months respectively for those two graphs there. And this is where you can go. Okay. Well, obviously there's quite a bit of adoption going on here.
Is this a linear or is this an exponential one? It's kind of hard to tell with just four months. Well, I mean, like with four months, it's relatively obvious. It's it's a linear type graph. But I'm going to talk a little bit more about how this perhaps isn't reflective of the overall numbers or of compared to the amount of podcasts that are out there. So let's jump onto the next one here. And this is a graph showing the amounts of satoshis that have been boosted in on a seven day period and on a 90 day period, as well as the amount of transactions and the amount of unique senders doing this.
And so for reference, I've taken the data from this from a couple of different sources. Most of it's coming from the podcasting 2.0 API, which is basically the way for for you to access the podcast index, which has all of this data on, on, you know, the amount of podcasts that they have in their system, what sort of tags they're using, and people have created graphs from this and I'll give them a reference in the kind of end of the show notes and things like this. But you can also find the chapter in the chapter links in the there's a link to where you can find these graphs as well.
So these two graphs which are just showing basically that it's kind of been relatively stable, I guess on a seven day period or a 90 day period for the amount of boosts and things coming in. And so I've got a couple of little takeaways right here. So the correlation of the lines, what you see is basically the amount of sets that are being Satoshi is being boosted in the amount of transactions and the amount of unique senders. They roughly follow each other, especially on the seven day period. You can see when when there's less people boosting in, there's less support and there's less amount of transactions.
And this is, I think, just a good check to go, okay, are people are listeners who are tuning into podcasts and supporting their favourite podcast is, you know, is this just being reliant on a couple of individual people or is it the amount of people all roughly behave the same way? And so kind of just to illustrate this, you know, imagine if you had ten people who were the biggest supporters and they were far outweighing their support in in whatever shows that they wanted to. And if perhaps for, you know, they went on holiday or a couple of them went away or, you know, didn't access a podcast for whatever day or things like this, if they were the ones who were really dominating the charts and were having an outsized impact, you would see you'd only have one less unique listener.
But the whole support amount or the transaction amount would drop dramatically, which is not what you see. What you see is that all of these lines roughly correlate with each other, which means the people who are listening and who are supporting, they're all roughly kind of taking the same amount of actions, the amount of support they might use is is varying and dependent on, you know, the person. I guess, though, some people who are perhaps more wealthier, they might be willing to send in, you know, 50 bucks to a show really regularly, you know, once a week or once a day basis, who knows?
Whereas other people who are more like myself, who don't have 50 bucks to spend daily on on on their favourite podcasts, they use smaller amounts. But where you can say, okay, the lines roughly match up. So when I'm talking about this, I'm really looking at the the seven day chart. Another takeaway to see here is that on average there's about 109 sets sent per transaction. And so if you were to equate this in to dollar terms, it would be about $0.02. I think this would be in US dollars, I think, or Australian, you know, it's it's roughly the same when it's at these low, low levels.
So what do you guys use that pennies in the US And the takeaway from this is I guess just micropayments work. If you were seeing transactions of this amount and they weren't reaching the podcaster, Look, I can just say on a personal note they are reaching to me and they're not all being spent on these for, you know, the amount of like PayPal for example, if you were to use that and they've got a base fee and then they take a chunk of percentage on top of that, a lot of these apps do have a percentage that they ask for to, you know, to help support their development to for providing all this infrastructure.
But what you can see is like, okay, the transactions amounts are pretty small, but they're still working. It's not like there's a big gap between what people are sending in to me and what I'm actually receiving. And yes, I know this because I do tons of test boost to myself and to other people and I can see that they're receiving it. So, you know, micropayments work. The Lightning Network is actually working. So that's a good takeaway from that. Another one is that there's a roughly on average about 300 people per day and the rough amount that they're supporting in a single given day is about one dollars as well.
So obviously this is going to be changing depending on some, you know, some people would probably be sending $10 a day and then others would be sending, you know, $0.10 a day. But it all averages out to that amount. And what you can see is $1 a day is is certainly affordable for most people. And this is probably about how much I'm personally spending maybe a bit more. And it's I guess it's just affordable is the key takeaway. So one, you know, it's affordable to be sending these small amounts per day, $1 per day, and it's actually reaching the destination.
Whereas if I was trying to send a dollar per day using PayPal, it wouldn't work because they take, you know, 50 something sense of that plus an extra thing on top. And so only what $0.30 of that would of that would actually reach the the podcast, whereas in this case it would be, you know, 95%, 97%, something like that. So one, you know, it's affordable to do as a listener and it's actually working and getting to the correct destination. And then the final one here, which isn't exactly related to this chart, but, you know, if you take the 90 days, you can see that there is about $26,000 us being sent through the the Lightning Network to podcasters.
So this is about 100 million sets, which is a Bitcoin essentially. And if you take this over a yearlong period, that would be about $100,000. So it's still not a crazy amount of money. You know, if you were to divide that with the amount of people with valuable as we've seen, which is 15,000, you know, that would only be like for $4.6 per podcast, something like that. But this is not the best way of looking at it. And I'll talk about that in a second. And if you compare this to so $100,000 over a yearlong period for using the value for value, lightning transaction payments with Bitcoin, and if you compare it to like the rough ad market, for example, for podcasting, which I believe is around the $2 billion range, you can see per year, you could say, okay, there's there's a fair amount of room to grow here.
And this is where I just want to put this kind of caveat, which is it can be easy to spin all these numbers in a positive or negative way. So if you wanted to put it in a negative way, you can just say, you know, most people aren't using these tools to support verse lotsa and in this case you could go, you know, it's flat lining the ecosystem's not growing and sure more people, more podcasters are putting value tags and funding tags in there in their podcast. But are they actually getting supported more. Oh look at the 90 day. It's it's flat and it's not growing.
People aren't supporting more. That's kind of the negative way of putting on it. The positive way is like you got to remember that all of this stuff is is kind of bell curves. And it's really only when you take the charts over a longer period where you can see it's been basically exponential because none of this existed two years ago. So hell yeah, it's growing. You know, now people are sending a Bitcoin every 90 days through this to their favourite podcasters. And yeah, sure, it's not. Once again, if you divided the total amount by the amount of podcasters who with a value block, you could, you'd go, okay, it's nothing, it's $6 per podcast or like that's not in a 90 day period or sorry, in a in a year long period that's, that's worthless.
Like, you know, what's the point? But once again, it's this is kind of like a bell curve or exponential thing where look most podcast with this in there they've just chucked it in. They haven't told their podcast, their favourite, they haven't told their listeners, Hey, can you support me using these methods? They've just put it in there. So if you don't ask it, nothing's going to come through. And I can just say personally, I have been asking and I have been, you know, very vocal about my listeners supporting me and I have certainly earned more than $6 for a year long period.
So the it's important to note, I guess, that all of this is not you can't just average things out and say this isn't working because it's such small amounts on an average. If you look at your kind of end goals or what you're trying to do, you can see, okay, this is actually getting to a period where or I suppose an amount a value which is sustainable for for actually having a lifestyle to be able to to live upon. And I'll talk about that certainly more in the case study that I do next month. But I can just say, you know, for me it's not there yet, but it's getting there and it's certainly a lot closer than I was a year ago.
And so, yeah, this was just, I suppose, something to look at. And there was, I guess some with the funding tag, for example, I have no idea how much it's going through PayPal or Patron on or buy me a coffee. I don't know these things, so I can't see those numbers. So it is just encouraging. If you go back to that, that first graph, which was with the feeds with value books and feeds with the funding tag in the second chapter, that is just where you can see, okay, well podcasts are actually adopting is they are starting to to put them in their feed.
So it doesn't mean nothing. There is something there. And then the the last one graph that I have here is that it's a couple of things. So I'm showing the total podcast in the index and how often these are getting published. I've got a little piece of information down the bottom left here, which is showing the amount of podcast with valuable transcripts, funding to chapters, medium music, medium video. So just a lot of the tags. And then the top is showing these over time, starting from the what's that, November of 2022 up until September of 2023. So a bit of a longer period.
Once again, like you can just see all of these lines of the linear, but they're going up and there are a lot more podcasters using the funding tag transcripts, valuable chapters of music and of video. And I suppose my takeaway from all of this of the, you know, 4.2 million podcasts are in the in the index. There's probably about, you know, 400,000 of them that are really active as in they've they've posted something in the last 60 days, in the last two months because a lot of podcasts have been created and people aren't working on them. And what you can say with this, okay, you know, all of the 10% of active shows and sorry of all of these shows, 10% of them have put a funding tag or a value block in there.
In there. Well, definitely the funding tag and maybe the value block as well. So, you know, my assumption here being because the funding tag is such a relatively new thing, it's likely only that shows which are active are putting it in. So when you put it that way, all of the all the podcasters who are actually creating podcasts at this moment, 10% of them have a mechanism for their their audience to support them within their actual RSS feed. You can say, okay, well, you know, the takeaway from this is supporters decide this. These are podcasters who are actually going to the effort of saying, here's a way that you can support me.
And so if you're taking this in, like the value for value approach, you go, okay, well, this is obviously where people are wanting to be supported by their listeners and not relying only on an advertising or a sponsorship model or something like this. So that I thought was a kind of cool little tech way to go. All right. Well, you know, 10% of shows, that's that's actually a fair chunk, especially because this all is so decentralised. This all is, you know, people are doing self hosting. There's so many different hosts from, you know, Buzz Sprout to RSS dot com to captivate, you know, transistor the bubble.
There's so many different places that people can go to. And not all of these hosts have made it easy for the podcasters to put these types in as well. So just on my portion, I would say like, okay, this is a pretty encouraging sign. Another one, new mediums being used. This is where you can see the medium tag of music and of video and especially music over the last two month period since the the bootcamp all came out since the ability to use value time splits, which I talked about quite extensively in episode 46 and in 45 and 46, that's where you can see, okay, people actually using these mediums as well, these new ones.
So it's not just supported podcasters who are reaping the benefits from this. It is the other musicians, it is people who create video, for example, and so yeah, just as a kind of general summing up on the current stats, once again, if you want to put a negative light on it, you can. But I think on the positive way for me just in this, you know, 90 day rough period that I was looking at, it shows that it's sustainable. It shows that people aren't supporters aren't dropping off, that there is money flowing through the system and that the podcasters themselves are starting to adopt all of these tags.
So I think on a personal note for myself, I'm looking at in a positive life light and the way that I really look at this is let's go for a little blast to the past. And by that I mean and you know, three years ago because the podcasting 2.0 now, it only started in September of 2020. So, you know, almost exactly three years ago. And just looking back, it's important to remember how all how new all of this is. And me personally, I joined the kind of podcasting 2.0 in July of 2021. So I was a little bit late to the game. I was, what, like eight months behind, something like that.
And I've got a little screenshot here which is showing Adam Cory of and I bookmark this because I at the time, because I thought it was pretty cool. And he's replying to Daniel J. Lewis and James Cridland from Pod News and he's saying, you know, it's no longer important how many people use an app, it's how much value an app generates as my new metric. And so he's saying, here's the podcast index daily metric. And because the podcast index asks for a 1% split or from the apps to help support the index and help make all of this happen, that's how we get all of this data.
And so what he's got here is just a little, I suppose, screenshot capture of of how much has been flowing through the system. And it was, you know, like this is over the last day 18,000 stats through braze for 599 transaction costs a matic 1600 fountain the big baller 23,258 And then you're saying you know Apple and Spotify bring zero valued me which is crazy because if you go okay well from September of 2020, that was literally nothing. There was no index, there was no Bitcoin, there was no lightning. Some of these apps didn't even exist. And then now a year later, so this is in, you know, October of 2021, there's six apps and they're sending about 60,000 stats per day.
Okay. Well, now, that's not a huge, crazy amount. Let's jump to three years later. Well, now it's 12 about 12 apps and that's sending 1.5 million per day. Okay. Well, that's a that's a pretty big jump there. And so there was a there was actually a point right near the beginning where I had enabled about three or four of my podcast with value with the value tag. And I remember distinctly that at that time there was only about 300 to 500 podcasts with it enabled at all. And so I, you know, I dominated 1% of the value market more hahaha. And it was just such a kind of new revolutionary thing like and it was hard, goddamn, it was hard trying to figure out all of the stuff you had to do so many things to, to, to get onto it.
But I can certainly say it's improved dramatically with places like Fountain allowing you to help put stats in to you to to do it in a I guess a method by really, really easily. If you're a podcast host just putting in your your email that will create a wallet for you. They'll do all the stuff brilliant. It's there and it's ready to go and you can actually start using some of the actual podcasting host now, such as Blueberry, to, to be able to put this information in your feed. Okay. And then the final portion with this is just does all of this matter? Does growth matter?
Is this a healthy ecosystem? Is this actually, you know, how we go into the moon? Is this, you know, metrics wise, 12%, 6%, 100%. It's like, are we are we growing? And I think the important thing to remember is just there's no point if it doesn't reach your end goal. And it's important to consider what is your end goal? Is it just to cover the costs of your podcast for creating it? Is it a little bit of bonus pocket money, perhaps. So it's just a nice to have. Are you looking for a full time income? That's kind of the position that I'm more at. Are you looking to become a millionaire?
Are you looking to become a billionaire? These are the important things to consider when you're looking at the value for value system and the ecosystem and all of these numbers. I was just saying here I want to reiterate, which I was one of the things that really attracted me to podcasting to point out is that nobody's going to become rich from this. And if someone does become rich, you know, I'm talking multi-millionaire or billionaire level, something's gone wrong because this is meant to be for everyone. And so we've seen, okay, there's 15,000 podcasts with the value tag enabled in it.
We've seen, okay, there's 300 people roughly per day sending money to their favourite podcaster. And this is going to be different people as well. It's not the same 300 people because, you know, some people, you don't listen to podcasts every single day and this is where it's just going, okay, well, what do you want? Do you want to become a billionaire or a millionaire? This is probably isn't the place for you. The value for value model probably isn't the way to do it. You probably want to go down a much more, I would say, riskier route, which is going for the kind of like Joe Rogan or being picked up like a by a massive, massive podcasting company or just creating something so viral.
So, you know, it's very, very, very hard to do these things, whereas the value for value, it's much more of a steady growth. You know, you keep plugging away at your podcast, you be consistent, you make sure that your ask is really good and make sure that you're doing things well and that people know about it. You keep providing value to your audience and over time this will accumulate and you will be able to start sustaining yourself or reaching these little goals of covering costs. I'm at that moment, at the moment where, yes, I'm earning enough to cover costs for the podcast. Brilliant.
In fact, I'm probably reached the stage where it's now like, Ooh, I got a little bit of bonus pocket money here. This is awesome. I need to keep creating something great, something, you know, magical, something that draws people in, being consistent, providing this value. So that I can start reaching this next stage of, you know, a full time income of being able to do this and being supported by it and being able to live in the world and pay rent and food and all of these sorts of nice things. But, you know, I'm not looking for the million dollars if I if I can get, you know, 40 grand a year Services Australia.
And so that would probably be like, I don't know, 30, 25, something like that, that I would consider myself blessed. I would consider myself like, I've done it, I've made it. And that that's what I'm trying to do. And this is where it's just like, okay, you know, all of these things. Does does growth matter? It only matters into your context if if you're reaching the goals that you're looking for, that's that's perfectly fine. And you don't you don't want to, for example, be looking at a value for value. And it's like, what type of podcast will get me the most support from using the value for value method?
In this case, you'd probably be saying a Bitcoin podcast because this is where using the Bitcoin as the mechanism for sending it. Obviously with the Fiat and the funding, well, it could be any sort of show. No agenda, for example, is probably one of the biggest they and theirs is about news and media but it's, it's depend on you spent on you to figure out what you want and all of these stats and metrics I gave you just here. They're nice things to know. They're nice to know, okay, this is actually growing, at least on a year long timescale, on years and years.
But if you're looking at this for like the next 90 days and you're saying, I want to capture this, I want to get all of this money or something like this, this isn't the place for you. This isn't the place to be doing this. It's it's a long term thing that you need to work out. And yeah, that's kind of just my my little encouragement, therefore, for that and trying to squash down any unrealistic expectations of growth because growth doesn't matter. It's about how you live in the world and it's about how you feel and interact with your audience.
That's the whole point of the value for value model and another point of it is to thank some people who are helping to be supporting this show. And man, this is probably one of the best weeks I've ever had. So before I get on to that, Mr. Adam Curry, can you please take it away with the Grand Lounge music Welcome to the Value for Value. Mr. Graham Lounge. Okay, I'm going to do this in a different method than normal because I've got quite a few coming in here. And so once again, a boostagram is a message you can send within your podcasting app. It will go directly to me with the message with a payment of satoshis, i.e.
money, and this helps to support the show, helps to support me, helps me to reach that goal I'm looking for, of creating a sustainable income for myself to be able to continue to create these shows, to create the Value for value podcast and the main models and the book reviews because I want to provide value in that way. This is the way that I want to, to live in the world, and it's very much appreciated when I when I get these in and it helps give me some good content for the show. So starting off from lowest to highest, we have cardboard giraffe 300.
Yeah, 333 sets sent using fountain. It gives me a yellow love heart emoji. Oh, God. WOODRUFF Thank you so much. Coming in hot after him is a little test boost that I did for myself because I had to change up some things in my feed. I will talk about that shortly. And then we have the Golden Dragon, He says. Thank you for this podcast. I am boosting the pledge I made on my second to last blog post over at Golden Blog a thon dot com where bearded bearded tech and I am looking to implement V for be on blogs and valuable information here sending all the stats the blog has made so far.
Dude, that is man, I'm hot warmed. I'm so appreciative of that because that's that's you know your hard work and your choosing to send that over to here. I have actually checked out his blog and he's got some pretty cool information on there. This actually has been something I've been struggling a little bit with, mostly just because I want to make it easy for people to boost me. And so I've tried implementing a couple of things on my own website. If you go many models podcast dot com such support, you can kind of see what I've got going on there. It's not as good a model as a method as I would like.
And so I'm actually I might be doing an episode on, on what he's working on over here because I think it is useful for kind of the tech side of things as text, text and tech side of things. So thank you very much. Mr. Golden Dragon. I did look up your name, but I've I've forgotten, unfortunately. Sorry. Sorry. My friend are coming straight after him. We've got Mr. Cole McCormick from the America Plus podcast with his favourite boost of 5492 sent using Fountain as well. And he says I'm guilty of promoting a single app. Looking back, the decision was to simplify podcasting to point out and value for value narratives.
But as time moves on, I've been wanting more reach within the other modern podcasting apps. I need a succinct way to talk about the project and system and options upgrade and progress. A very cool couple. Yeah. This is look, it's it makes sense, right? It's it is such a complex ecosystem of so many different things. I talked about this on the models in a recent episode I did on on Bitcoin and I wasn't trying to convince people of, of that I've kind of come to my own conclusions after, you know, three years of studying it of, of saying, okay, yeah, this is actually legit.
But the problem with it is you have to learn all of these various side things. You have to learn about open source, you have to learn about finance, you have to learn about the monetary system of of lending, of what is money. And podcasting 2.0 is very similar, which is and value for value, which is, I think the on the surface is relatively simple. But if you want to understand podcasting 2.0, you do have to understand about the relationships between the hosts of listeners and the apps. You do have to understand about how RSS works. This is something I had to to really dive into.
You have to understand about, you know, what is tipping donations, how people feel when they when they donate to of the feedback loop of all of the topics I've talked about here. And so yeah, but look, it's a process of simplifying it and then expanding it I think, and doing it in a way that you can do. And yeah, I'm really keen to see how you progress with that call because it's it's hard. It's hard, man. I fully feel you coming in. Next we have a one which was actually coming from yesterday and it's an old and old podcast supporter for this show because I'm pretty sure I've seen his name before.
This is Steve Webb, the God caster. This is one of the guys, the gentleman who first found out about podcasting, you know, back in 2004, 2005 and was very quick on the bandwagon of of jumping on and creating a his podcast. And man, he's been doing it for a while and I'm on it and he says, Great show. Thanks for all the great info. 7777 stryper boost that using fountain again man Thank you. Thank you so much, Steve I really do appreciate that God is on my side with value for value. We have now coming in to some bigger baller boosts over here.
We've got Macintosh from generation Bitcoin, he says. How many episodes a week are you doing now? The laughing emoji face having trouble keeping up V fully V for V for life as too many fours in a, V for V for life or something like that. Macintosh 21,000, which is, I guess you'd call it a Bitcoin boost set sent using fountain. At the very moment, my friends, I'm doing one book review, I'm doing one value for value and I'm doing to me a modest one. So it's for those once upon a time where I was doing eight because I had another show called Prisoners in Spanglish, where I was doing book reviews in Spanish, and I was just doing conversation.
I was doing so much to book reviews a week that was way too much for actually feels pretty sustainable. I've been doing this for a little bit now and I feel this is probably about as much as I'd want to get to full four episodes a week of various different podcasts. And yeah, I think that's that's working well for me. So that's probably about roughly when I want to keep it up. And if you want to know more about Bitcoin, I'd actually recommend Generation Bitcoin because it's got some pretty handy episodes there. On how to learn about that.
And then finally, the biggest Baller of the Boosters, we've got Chris Las from Jupiter Broadcasting and he says thanks for the kind words boost enough to say you have nailed the ideas of V for V this is going to be my go to podcast for creators trying to wrap their noodle around all of this 60,000 sets sent using Fountain o. Thank you Chris, so much for that. It really does help. I appreciate it greatly and it also helps to support this show to keep things ticking over. And yeah, it's just it's really gratifying, man, to know that.
And yeah, look, this show, what I'm noticing from this is because I'm being so specific with my what I'm trying to do with it and who I'm trying to help. I'm noticing that it is, you know, kind of like paying the dividends and then both support and the the variations of support coming through of of, you know, people leaving comments on the on the YouTube mini, a YouTube video I made for the music podcast and things like this. So very, very much appreciated, my friend. Thank you so much for that and that wrapping up our value for value boostagram section here and yeah, if you want to know more about all of you know how much this is actually contributing to to I suppose the mere models because it all kind of falls under that brand I guess, for what myself and one are doing over there.
Yeah. Check out episode that we do in about that I'll do in about a month's time on here of the case study so you don't have to wait for that one people. There's my little a little teaser right here Before I go on, I do want to just say a big thanks to CSB for last week's episode. Of course, of everything that he was doing. If you were noticing while boosting in I didn't have him in the feed, had some problems with Fountain and so I'm actually going to move on to Blueberry and do everything via there. And so hopefully now everything will be a little bit smoother.
And this is where it's just like you've got to you've got to work at the stuff. It's a continual process of upgrading, of updating. I do this live, but I still don't have a chat yet. You know, there's so many things I need to do, so I just much appreciated for everyone sticking around for any problems that I encounter, any things that I do wrong. It's all it's all very much appreciated. So I'm going to go on to my little tip section here, and I got most of this information of these graphs of this data from participating and saving bookmarks on the podcast index.
Mastodon. I know I've given this tip before or this service highlight before, but there's no central authority for these things. There is no one place to go where it's like a V for these stats. So I have actually used the stats from Griddle Cakes dot com slash in and trends, which stands for namespace trends. And then he's got another one here. And this Ron proof and he's got another one called gridlock Eskom's slash V for the E trends. So this is a helpful way to look at the data and kind of make sense of everything. Another website to go to is stats dot podcast index dot org slash V for v.
I know it's not the easiest way of of grabbing these things, but that's, that's another way. And then there's another one Livewire dot io slash podcast what's that. Dash index dash dot stats visualised with a Z in the in the visualised and that one I can't remember who these graphs looks like they're John Spurlock so yeah data provided by the podcast index visualised by John Spurlock. So all of these sorts of graphs I found these out by saving bookmarks on the podcast index. Mastodon. So if you're interested in these things, you kind of just need to hang around there and you'll start to get information and you will find things out.
And my service highlight for this week, I actually want to pull out Fountain because one of the things that they do is they have their podcast charts. And so every day I believe they update this or at the very least every week and it shows, you know, which of the hottest shows in terms of the amount being boosted in to these shows, which episodes in particular are doing well. So if I just go here at the moment, it's there's a no agenda show, there's a Linux unplugged, there's a boostagram ball a podcasting two point 0, I can see like a Christian on here, I can see one financial one There's all sorts I can see one of Cole McCormick's shows on there as well.
There's a lot of different things going on here, so that's a useful way. And then there's brass section where you can see, okay, some people are boosting in in a relatively big amounts, 111,111 from Bitcoin rising to one of their favourite shows obviously Rabbit Hole recap. What's that? That's probably twenties $30 us So you know these amounts they do make a difference when they add up So very very cool to see and that's just another little app and service highlight I just wanted to give up And then finally the value for value section. Who am I going to give 15% of this week's boost and support to?
I'm going to give it to Ron Ploof, because these charts that I have made, I've used them pretty extensively and they have been very, very helpful. He wasn't the only one, of course, but I will actually get John Spurlock and thank him in a in a separate episode. Probably the the next one that I was hinting at, the charts, the personal one, because there's some other charts which are pretty good for that, which are more personal for me. But yeah, 15% for this week for for him for creating these cool things there. You know, it's something I would never be able to do myself, you know, accessing the podcast index API of knowing how to collect the data of creating a decent graph from this, of being able to automate it.
All of this stuff, which I don't know how to do yet, is immensely valuable because we get some information on what's actually happening. What are these things being adopted? Are people using them? So 15% to him for this week. So thank you very much, my friend. Ron, please. And I'm going to leave it there for today. Thank you, everyone, for joining another episode of the Value for Value podcast, the so many things I want to touch upon and just want to leave it on a high note of, you know, all of this stuff is getting adopted, but it's slow.
And so if you come in red hot, just expect like it's going to take a little bit of time, but over time it will dramatically change your life. And I can say my life has changed dramatically in this. You know, last three years since podcasting, 2.0 has has risen up. And in the last two and a half years that I've been an active participant. And it has immensely changed my life. And the value for value system is the I think, the way to go and is for all sorts of reasons. But from just what we've seen here today, it is growing, but it's a slow growth. So I don't I don't get too wild about it and that's it.
Thank you everyone for joining me and till the next episode, chao for now, Kyrin out.
