Give me some stats ..... stat! In Ep#48 we're going to view some charts of the Podcasting 2.0 namespace adoption, reflect on where we've come from and realise why your end goals are ultimately more important than growth.
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Give me some stats ... stat! Welcome everyoneto another episode of the Value4 Value Podcast. My name is Kyrin,host of the Mere Mortals and Mere MortalsBook Reviews, but also this one,which is for digital content creators, those who are trying to connectmore deeper with their audience,connect more deeply with them, and to also monetisetheir show to be able to find a way of creatinga sustainable lifestyle. I suppose with what they're creating, whether this bethrough podcasts predominantly is whatI'm talking about here, but hopefullyalso in other manners of digital connectionmediums.
As we've talked about previouslywith music and with writingand things like this. So this topic for today,I'm going to be talking about podcasting 2.0 stats is the V4the ecosystem growing and the thing with statsis, look, I could just be a nerdything on my part, but everyone seems to lovestats and graphs, you know, and I wanted to stick, I suppose,with the general trends of what is happeningwith values for value and with podcastingto point out is this stuffgaining adoption? And I'll do a kind ofpersonal case study probably inabout a month's time of my actual experiences using the valuefor value model and get you some real dataon on how you know how many satoshishave come and how many peoplehave supported the showand things like this.
So that's onefor for a month's time where I do my kind of like big recaps of three quartersand things like this. So let's go intosome of the current stats that we seefrom podcasting to Pono, and this is definitelyin episode you want to be listening toon a podcasting app which does showthe chapters and images and links because I'mgoing to be referencing quite a few graphsand things like this. And the first graph, let's talk with adoptionof tags and in particular I'm going to be lookingat the two tags related to many, many,many, many. So the firstthis being value blocks, which as I mentionedin one of the previous episodes, episode numberor let me bring up my um, my actual numbershere, I'm pretty sure it was 43and 44.
Yeah, this was related to micropaymentsand boostagrams. So the value block putting a lightning addressin your actual feed for people to be able to boost in via all of thesecool new apps. And we can seeon the chart here these, these chartsgo from about five months worth of data. So startingon the 1st of May 2023, you Americanswith your 5/1/ 2023 so confusing and then going to basicallythe start of September and you can see pretty linear chartgoing up from around 13,000 113,200value blocks all the way up to about 15,000as of September of 2023. So we can see there's a a, you know, four or five month period that there's been a jumpof about 2000 podcasts jumping up.So that's pretty cool.
And then the one below, it is relatedto the funding tag. And so this is being able to put a link for peopleto support you into. I suppose you buy or,or into your, your podcast and it will show up as likea little dollar sign within certainpodcasting apps which people can click andthat will take them to a like a patronlink or to a PayPal, which is whatI have on this podcast, or to perhaps a buy mea coffee. It's it's basically a way, it's a linkthat people you can send people towhich will be able for them to support youwith the Fiat. And so once again, going from May of 2023to September and we can see that was about 35,500 podcasts withthe funding tag in it.
And this has jumped upto about 42,400, something like that,42,000. So adoption of tagsrelated to money. Now that's pretty good. That's a 12%and 15% in four months respectively forthose two graphs there. And this is where you cango. Okay. Well, obviously there's quite a bit of adoptiongoing on here. Is this a linearor is this an exponential one? It's kind of hard to tell withjust four months. Well,I mean, like with four months,it's relatively obvious. It's it's a lineartype graph. But I'm going to talka little bit more about how this perhapsisn't reflectiveof the overall numbers or of comparedto the amount of podcasts that are out there.
So let's jumponto the next one here. And this is a graphshowing the amounts of satoshisthat have been boosted in on a seven day periodand on a 90 day period, as well as the amountof transactions and the amount of uniquesenders doing this. And so for reference,I've taken the data from this from a coupleof different sources. Most of it's coming fromthe podcasting 2.0 API, which is basically the way for for you to access the podcastindex, which has all of this dataon, on, you know,the amount of podcasts that they havein their system, what sort of tagsthey're using, and people have createdgraphs from this and I'll give them a reference in the kind of end of the show notesand things like this.
But you can also find the chapter in the chapterlinks in the there's a link to where you can findthese graphs as well. So these two graphs which are just showingbasically that it's kind of beenrelatively stable, I guess on a seven day period or a 90 day periodfor the amount of boosts and things coming in. And so I've got a couple of little takeawaysright here. So the correlation of the lines,what you see is basically the amount of sets that are being Satoshi is being boosted in the amountof transactions and the amount of uniquesenders. They roughlyfollow each other, especially on the sevenday period.
You can see when when there's lesspeople boosting in, there's less support and there's lessamount of transactions. And this is, I think,just a good check to go, okay, are people are listeners who are tuning into podcasts and supportingtheir favourite podcast is, you know, is this just being reliant on a couple ofindividual people or is it the amount of people all roughlybehave the same way? And so kind of just to illustrate this,you know, imagine if you had ten people who were the biggest supportersand they were far outweighingtheir support in in whatever showsthat they wanted to.
And if perhaps for, you know,they went on holiday or a couple of themwent away or, you know,didn't access a podcast for whatever dayor things like this, if they were the ones who were really dominatingthe charts and were having an outsized impact, you would see you'd only haveone less unique listener. But the whole supportamount or the transaction amountwould drop dramatically, which is not what you see. What you seeis that all of these lines roughly correlatewith each other, which means the people who are listeningand who are supporting, they're all roughly kind of taking the sameamount of actions, the amount of supportthey might use is is varyingand dependent on, you know, the person.
I guess, though,some people who are perhapsmore wealthier, they might be willingto send in, you know, 50 bucks toa show really regularly, you know, once a week or once a day basis,who knows? Whereas other peoplewho are more like myself, who don't have 50 bucksto spend daily on on on their favouritepodcasts, they use smaller amounts. But where you can say,okay, the linesroughly match up. So when I'mtalking about this, I'm really looking at thethe seven day chart. Another takeaway to seehere is that on average there's about 109sets sent per transaction. And so if you were to equate this into dollar terms, it would be about $0.02.
I think this would be inUS dollars, I think, or Australian,you know, it's it's roughly the samewhen it's at these low, low levels. So what do you guys usethat pennies in the US And the takeaway fromthis is I guess just micropayments work. If you were seeing transactions of this amount and they weren't reachingthe podcaster, Look, I can just sayon a personal note they are reaching to me and they're not all beingspent on these for, you know, the amount of like PayPal for example,if you were to use that and they've got a base feeand then they take a chunk of percentageon top of that, a lot of these apps do have a percentagethat they ask for to, you know, to helpsupport their development to for providingall this infrastructure.
But what you can see is like, okay, the transactionsamounts are pretty small, but they're still working. It's not like there's a big gap between what peopleare sending in to me and what I'm actuallyreceiving. And yes, I know thisbecause I do tons of test boost to myselfand to other people and I can see thatthey're receiving it. So, you know,micropayments work. The Lightning Networkis actually working. So that's a good takeawayfrom that. Another oneis that there's a roughly on averageabout 300 people per day and the rough amount that they're supporting in a single given day isabout one dollars as well.
So obviously this is goingto be changing depending on some, you know, some people would probably be sending $10 a day and thenothers would be sending, you know, $0.10 a day. But it all averages outto that amount. And what you can see is $1a day is is certainly affordablefor most people. And this is probably abouthow much I'm personally spending maybe a bit more. And it's I guess it's just affordableis the key takeaway. So one, you know, it'saffordable to be sending these small amountsper day, $1 per day, and it's actually reachingthe destination. Whereas if I was trying to send a dollar per dayusing PayPal, it wouldn't workbecause they take, you know, 50something sense of that plus an extrathing on top.
And so only what $0.30 of that would of thatwould actually reach the the podcast, whereasin this case it would be, you know, 95%, 97%,something like that. So one,you know, it's affordable to do as a listener and it's actually working and getting tothe correct destination. And then the finalone here, which isn't exactly related tothis chart, but, you know, if you take the 90 days, you can see thatthere is about $26,000 us being sent through thethe Lightning Network to podcasters. So this is about 100 million sets, which isa Bitcoin essentially. And if you take this overa yearlong period, that would be about$100,000.
So it's still nota crazy amount of money. You know, if you were to divide that with the amount of peoplewith valuable as we've seen,which is 15,000, you know, that would only be like for $4.6 per podcast,something like that. But this is not thebest way of looking at it. And I'll talk about thatin a second. And if you compare this to so $100,000over a yearlong period for using the valuefor value, lightning transactionpayments with Bitcoin, and if you compare itto like the rough ad market, for example,for podcasting, which I believe is aroundthe $2 billion range, you can see per year, you could say, okay,there's there's a fair amountof room to grow here.
And this is whereI just want to put this kind of caveat,which is it can be easy to spin all these numbers in apositive or negative way. So if you wanted to put itin a negative way, you can just say, you know,most people aren't using these toolsto support verse lotsa and in this case you could go,you know, it's flat lining the ecosystem'snot growing and sure more people, more podcasters are putting value tagsand funding tags in there in their podcast. But are they actuallygetting supported more. Oh look at the 90 day. It's it's flatand it's not growing.
People aren'tsupporting more. That's kind of the negativeway of putting on it. The positive way is likeyou got to remember that all of this stuff isis kind of bell curves. And it's really onlywhen you take the charts over a longer periodwhere you can see it's beenbasically exponential because none of thisexisted two years ago. So hell yeah,it's growing. You know, now people are sending a Bitcoin every 90 days through this to theirfavourite podcasters. And yeah, sure, it's not. Once again, if you divided the total amount by theamount of podcasters who with a value block,you could, you'd go, okay, it'snothing, it's $6 per podcast or like that'snot in a 90 day period or sorry, in a in a yearlong period that's, that's worthless.
Like, you know,what's the point? But once again, it's this is kind of like a bell curveor exponential thing where look most podcastwith this in there they've justchucked it in. They haven't told theirpodcast, their favourite, they haven't told theirlisteners, Hey, can you support meusing these methods? They'vejust put it in there. So if you don't ask it, nothing'sgoing to come through. And Ican just say personally, I have been askingand I have been, you know, very vocal about my listeners supporting me and I have certainlyearned more than $6 for a year long period.
So the it's importantto note, I guess, thatall of this is not you can't justaverage things out and say this isn't working because it's such smallamounts on an average. If you look at your kindof end goals or whatyou're trying to do, you can see, okay, this is actually gettingto a period where or I suppose an amounta value which is sustainable for for actually havinga lifestyle to be able to to live upon. And I'll talk about that certainly more in the casestudy that I do next month. But I can just say,you know, for me it's not there yet, but it's getting thereand it's certainly a lot closerthan I was a year ago.
And so, yeah, this was just,I suppose, something to look at. And there was,I guess some with the funding tag, for example, I have no idea how much it's going through PayPalor Patron on or buy me a coffee. I don't know these things, so I can'tsee those numbers. So it is just encouraging. If you go back to that,that first graph, which was with the feedswith value books and feeds with the funding tagin the second chapter, that is justwhere you can see, okay, well podcasts are actually adopting isthey are starting to to put them in their feed.
So it doesn't meannothing. There is something there. And then the the last one graph that I have hereis that it's a couple of things. So I'm showing thetotal podcast in the index and how often theseare getting published. I've got a little pieceof information down the bottom left here,which is showing the amount of podcastwith valuable transcripts, funding to chapters,medium music, medium video. So just a lot of the tags. And then the topis showing these over time,starting from the what's that, November of 2022 upuntil September of 2023. So a bitof a longer period.
Once again, like you can just seeall of these lines of the linear,but they're going up and there are a lot more podcastersusing the funding tag transcripts, valuable chapters of musicand of video. And I suppose my takeawayfrom all of this of the, you know, 4.2 millionpodcasts are in the in the index. There's probably about,you know, 400,000 of them that are really activeas in they'vethey've posted something in the last 60 days,in the last two months because a lot of podcasts have been created and people aren'tworking on them. And what you can saywith this, okay, you know, all of the 10% of activeshows and sorry of all of theseshows, 10% of them have put a funding tagor a value block in there.
In there. Well,definitely the funding tag and maybe the valueblock as well. So, you know, my assumption here beingbecause the funding tag is such arelatively new thing, it's likelyonly that shows which are activeare putting it in. So when you put itthat way, all of the all the podcasters who are actually creating podcastsat this moment, 10% of them have a mechanismfor their their audience to support them withintheir actual RSS feed. You can say, okay, well,you know, the takeaway from this issupporters decide this. These are podcasterswho are actually going to the effort of saying, here's a waythat you can support me.
And so if you're takingthis in, like the value for value approach, you go, okay,well, this is obviously where people are wantingto be supported by their listenersand not relying only on an advertisingor a sponsorship model or something like this. So that I thought was a kind of coollittle tech way to go. All right. Well, you know,10% of shows, that's that's actually a fairchunk, especially because thisall is so decentralised. This all is, you know, people are doingself hosting. There's so many differenthosts from, you know, Buzz Sprout toRSS dot com to captivate, you know, transistorthe bubble.
There's so many differentplaces that people can go to. And not all of these hosts have made it easy for the podcasters to putthese types in as well. So just on my portion, I would say like, okay,this is a pretty encouraging sign. Another one, new mediumsbeing used. This is where you can seethe medium tag of music and of video and especially music overthe last two month period since the the bootcamp all came outsince the ability to use value time splits, which I talkedabout quite extensively in episode 46and in 45 and 46, that's where you can see,okay, people actually using these mediumsas well, these new ones.
So it's not just supported podcasters who are reapingthe benefits from this. It is the other musicians,it is people who create video,for example, and so yeah,just as a kind of general summingup on the current stats, once again,if you want to put a negative light on it,you can. But I think on the positive way for mejust in this, you know, 90 day rough periodthat I was looking at, it shows thatit's sustainable. It shows that peoplearen't supporters aren't dropping off,that there is money flowing through the system and that the podcastersthemselves are starting to adoptall of these tags.
So I think on a personal notefor myself, I'm looking at in a positive life lightand the way that I really look atthis is let's go for a little blastto the past. And by that I mean and you know, three years agobecause the podcasting 2.0 now, it only startedin September of 2020. So, you know, almostexactly three years ago. And just looking back,it's important to remember how allhow new all of this is. And me personally,I joined the kind of podcasting 2.0in July of 2021. So I was a little bitlate to the game. I was, what, like eight months behind,something like that.
And I've gota little screenshot here which is showing AdamCory of and I bookmark thisbecause I at the time, because I thoughtit was pretty cool. And he's replying toDaniel J. Lewis and James Cridlandfrom Pod News and he's saying, you know, it'sno longer important how many people usean app, it's how much valuean app generates as my new metric. And so he's saying, here's the podcastindex daily metric. And because the podcastindex asks for a 1% split or from the appsto help support the index and help make all of this happen,that's how we get all of thisdata.
And so what he's got hereis just a little, I suppose, screenshot capture of of how much has been flowingthrough the system. And it was, you know, like this is over the last day 18,000 stats through brazefor 599 transaction costs a matic 1600 fountainthe big baller 23,258 And then you're sayingyou know Apple and Spotifybring zero valued me which is crazybecause if you go okay wellfrom September of 2020, that was literallynothing. There was no index, there was no Bitcoin,there was no lightning. Some of these appsdidn't even exist. And then now a year later,so this is in, you know, October of 2021,there's six apps and they're sending about60,000 stats per day.
Okay. Well, now, that'snot a huge, crazy amount. Let's jump to three yearslater. Well,now it's 12 about 12 apps and that's sending 1.5million per day. Okay. Well, that's a that's apretty big jump there. And so there was athere was actually a point right near the beginning where I had enabledabout three or four of my podcastwith value with the value tag. And I remember distinctlythat at that time there was only about 300to 500 podcastswith it enabled at all. And so I, you know,I dominated 1% of the value marketmore hahaha. And it was just such a kind of newrevolutionary thing like and it was hard,goddamn, it was hard trying to figure outall of the stuff you had to doso many things to, to, to get onto it.
But I can certainly sayit's improved dramatically with places like Fountain allowing you to helpput stats in to you to to do it in a I guess a methodby really, really easily. If you're a podcast hostjust putting in your your email that willcreate a wallet for you. They'll do all the stuffbrilliant. It's thereand it's ready to go and you can actually startusing some of the actual podcasting hostnow, such as Blueberry, to, to be able to put this informationin your feed. Okay. And then the final portionwith this is just does all of this matter?Does growth matter?
Is this a healthyecosystem? Is this actually,you know, how we go into the moon? Is this, you know, metricswise, 12%, 6%, 100%. It's like, are weare we growing? And I think the importantthing to remember is just there's no point if it doesn'treach your end goal. And it's importantto consider what is your end goal? Is it just to cover the costs of your podcastfor creating it? Is ita little bit of bonus pocket money, perhaps. So it's just anice to have. Are you looking fora full time income? That's kind of theposition that I'm more at. Are you lookingto become a millionaire?
Are you lookingto become a billionaire? These are the important things to considerwhen you're looking at the value for value system and the ecosystemand all of these numbers. I was just saying here I want to reiterate, whichI was one of the things that really attracted meto podcasting to point out is that nobody's goingto become rich from this. And if someone does becomerich, you know, I'm talking multi-millionaireor billionaire level, something's gone wrong because this is meantto be for everyone. And so we've seen, okay,there's 15,000 podcasts with the valuetag enabled in it.
We've seen, okay, there's 300 people roughly per daysending money to theirfavourite podcaster. And this is going to bedifferent people as well. It's not the same300 people because, you know, some people,you don't listen to podcasts every single dayand this is where it's just going, okay, well,what do you want? Do you want to become a billionaireor a millionaire? This is probablyisn't the place for you. The value for value model probablyisn't the way to do it. You probably wantto go down a much more, I would say,riskier route, which is going forthe kind of like Joe Rogan or being picked up like a by a massive,massive podcasting company or just creating somethingso viral.
So, you know, it's very, very, very hardto do these things, whereas the valuefor value, it's much more of a steadygrowth. You know, you keep plugging away at your podcast,you be consistent, you make sure thatyour ask is really good and make surethat you're doing things well and that peopleknow about it. You keep providingvalue to your audience and over timethis will accumulate and you will be able to start sustaining yourselfor reaching these little goalsof covering costs. I'm at that moment,at the moment where, yes, I'm earningenough to cover costs for the podcast.Brilliant.
In fact, I'm probably reached the stagewhere it's now like, Ooh, I got a little bit ofbonus pocket money here. This is awesome. I need to keep creatingsomething great, something, you know, magical, something that drawspeople in, being consistent,providing this value. So that I can startreaching this next stage of,you know, a full time income of being ableto do this and being supported by it and being ableto live in the world and pay rent and food and all of these sortsof nice things. But, you know, I'm not lookingfor the million dollars if I if I can get,you know, 40 grand a yearServices Australia.
And so that wouldprobably be like, I don't know, 30, 25,something like that, that I wouldconsider myself blessed. I would consider myselflike, I've done it,I've made it. And that that'swhat I'm trying to do. And this is where it'sjust like, okay, you know, all of these things. Does does growth matter? It only mattersinto your context if if you're reaching the goalsthat you're looking for, that'sthat's perfectly fine. And you don't you don't want to,for example, be looking at a valuefor value. And it's like, what type of podcastwill get me the most support from using thevalue for value method?
In this case,you'd probably be saying a Bitcoin podcastbecause this is where using the Bitcoin as themechanism for sending it. Obviously with the Fiat and the funding, well, it could beany sort of show. No agenda, for example, is probablyone of the biggest they and theirsis about news and media but it's, it's depend onyou spent on you to figure outwhat you want and all of these stats and metricsI gave you just here. They're nicethings to know. They're nice to know,okay, this is actually growing,at least on a year long timescale, on yearsand years.
But if you'relooking at this for like the next 90 daysand you're saying, I want to capture this,I want to get all of this moneyor something like this, this isn'tthe place for you. This isn't the placeto be doing this. It's it's a long term thingthat you need to work out. And yeah, that's kind of just my my little encouragement, therefore, for that and trying to squash downany unrealistic expectations of growthbecause growth doesn't matter. It's about how you livein the world and it's abouthow you feel and interactwith your audience. That's the whole point ofthe value for value model and another point of itis to thank some people who are helping to besupporting this show.
And man,this is probably one of the best weeksI've ever had. So beforeI get on to that, Mr. Adam Curry, can you pleasetake it away with the Grand Lounge music Welcometo the Value for Value. Mr. Graham Lounge. Okay, I'm going to do this in a differentmethod than normal because I've got quitea few coming in here. And so once again, a boostagram is a message you can send withinyour podcasting app. It will go directly to mewith the message with a payment of satoshis, i.e. money, and this helpsto support the show, helps to support me, helps meto reach that goal I'm looking for,of creating a sustainable incomefor myself to be able to continueto create these shows, to create the Valuefor value podcast and the main modelsand the book reviews because I want to providevalue in that way.
This is the waythat I want to, to live in the world, and it's very muchappreciated when I when I get these inand it helps give me some good contentfor the show. So starting offfrom lowest to highest, we have cardboardgiraffe 300. Yeah, 333 sets sentusing fountain. It gives me a yellow loveheart emoji. Oh, God. WOODRUFFThank you so much. Coming in hot after him is a little testboost that I did for myselfbecause I had to change up some things in my feed. I will talk about thatshortly. And then we have theGolden Dragon, He says. Thank youfor this podcast.
I am boosting the pledgeI made on my second to last blog post over at Golden Bloga thon dot com where bearded bearded tech and I am lookingto implement V for be on blogs andvaluable information here sending all the statsthe blog has made so far. Dude, that is man, I'm hot warmed. I'm soappreciative of that because that's that'syou know your hard work and your choosingto send that over to here. I have actuallychecked out his blog and he's got some prettycool information on there. This actually has beensomething I've been strugglinga little bit with, mostly just becauseI want to make it easy for people to boost me.
And so I've tried implementing a couple of thingson my own website. If you go many models podcast dotcom such support, you can kind of see whatI've got going on there. It's not as good a model as a methodas I would like. And so I'm actually I might bedoing an episode on, on whathe's working on over here because I think it is usefulfor kind of the tech side of thingsas text, text and tech side of things. So thank you very much. Mr. Golden Dragon. I did look up your name, but I've I've forgotten,unfortunately. Sorry. Sorry.
My friend are comingstraight after him. We've got Mr. Cole McCormickfrom the America Plus podcast with his favourite boost of 5492 sentusing Fountain as well. And he says I'm guiltyof promoting a single app. Looking back, the decisionwas to simplify podcasting to point out and valuefor value narratives. But as time moves on, I've been wantingmore reach within the other modernpodcasting apps. I need a succinct wayto talk about the project and system and optionsupgrade and progress. A very cool couple. Yeah. This is look, it'sit makes sense, right? It's it is such a complexecosystem of so many different things.
I talked about thison the models in a recent episodeI did on on Bitcoin and I wasn't tryingto convince people of, of thatI've kind of come to my own conclusionsafter, you know,three years of studying it of, of saying, okay, yeah,this is actually legit. But the problem with it isyou have to learn all of these various sidethings. You have to learn about open source,you have to learn about finance,you have to learn about the monetary system ofof lending, of what is money. And podcasting2.0 is very similar, which is and valuefor value, which is, I think the on the surfaceis relatively simple.
But if you want tounderstand podcasting 2.0, you do have to understandabout the relationships between the hostsof listeners and the apps. You do have to understandabout how RSS works. This is something I had toto really dive into. You have to understandabout, you know, what is tipping donations, how people feel when they when they donate toof the feedback loop of all of the topicsI've talked about here. And so yeah,but look, it's a processof simplifying it and then expanding it I think, and doing itin a way that you can do. And yeah, I'm really keento see how you progress with that call because it's it's hard.
It's hard, man. I fully feelyou coming in. Next we have a onewhich was actually coming from yesterdayand it's an old and old podcastsupporter for this show because I'm pretty sureI've seen his name before. This is Steve Webb,the God caster. This is one of the guys,the gentleman who first found outabout podcasting, you know, back in 2004, 2005 and was veryquick on the bandwagon of of jumping on and creatinga his podcast. And man, he's been doing it for a whileand I'm on it and he says, Great show. Thanks for all the greatinfo. 7777 stryper boostthat using fountain again man Thank you.
Thank you so much, Steve I reallydo appreciate that God is on my side with value for value. We have now coming into some bigger baller boosts over here. We've got Macintoshfrom generation Bitcoin, he says. How many episodes a weekare you doing now? The laughing emoji facehaving trouble keeping up V fully V for V for lifeas too many fours in a, V for V for lifeor something like that. Macintosh 21,000,which is, I guess you'd call ita Bitcoin boost set sentusing fountain. At the very moment,my friends, I'm doing one book review, I'm doing onevalue for value and I'm doing to mea modest one.
So it's for those once upon a timewhere I was doing eight because I had another showcalled Prisoners in Spanglish, where I was doingbook reviews in Spanish, and I was just doingconversation. I was doing so muchto book reviews a week that was way too much for actually feelspretty sustainable. I've been doing thisfor a little bit now and I feelthis is probably about as much as I'd want to getto full four episodes a week of variousdifferent podcasts. And yeah, I think that's that's workingwell for me. So that's probably about roughlywhen I want to keep it up. And if you want to knowmore about Bitcoin, I'd actually recommend Generation Bitcoinbecause it's got some pretty handyepisodes there.
On how to learnabout that. And then finally, the biggest Ballerof the Boosters, we've got Chris Las from Jupiter Broadcastingand he says thanks for the kind wordsboost enough to say you have nailedthe ideas of V for V this is going to be my goto podcast for creators trying to wrap theirnoodle around all of this 60,000 setssent using Fountain o. Thank youChris, so much for that. It really does help. I appreciate it greatlyand it also helps to support this show tokeep things ticking over. And yeah, it's just it'sreally gratifying, man, to know that.
And yeah, look, this show, what I'm noticing from this is because I'mbeing so specific with my what I'm tryingto do with it and who I'm tryingto help. I'm noticing that it is, you know, kind of like paying the dividendsand then both support and the the variations of supportcoming through of of, you know, peopleleaving comments on the on the YouTube mini,a YouTube video I made for the music podcastand things like this. So very, very muchappreciated, my friend. Thank you so much for thatand that wrapping up our value for value boostagram section here and yeah, if you want to know moreabout all of you know how much this is actually contributing to toI suppose the mere models because it all kind of fallsunder that brand I guess, for what myself and oneare doing over there.
Yeah. Check out episodethat we do in about that I'll do in about a month's timeon here of the case study so you don't have towait for that one people. There's my littlea little teaser right here Before I goon, I do want to just say a big thanks to CSBfor last week's episode. Of course, of everythingthat he was doing. If you were noticingwhile boosting in I didn't have him inthe feed, had some problemswith Fountain and so I'm actually goingto move on to Blueberry and do everythingvia there. And so hopefully noweverything will be a little bit smoother.
And this is where it'sjust like you've got to you've got to work atthe stuff. It's a continual processof upgrading, of updating. I do this live,but I still don't have a chat yet. You know, there's so manythings I need to do, so I just much appreciatedfor everyone sticking around for any problemsthat I encounter, any things that I dowrong. It's all it'sall very much appreciated. So I'm going to go on to my little tip sectionhere, and I got most of this informationof these graphs of this datafrom participating and saving bookmarkson the podcast index. Mastodon.
I know I've given this tipbefore or this service highlight before,but there's no central authorityfor these things. There is no one placeto go where it's like a V for these stats. So I have actually used the stats from GriddleCakes dot com slash in and trends, which standsfor namespace trends. And then he'sgot another one here. And this Ron proofand he's got another one called gridlock Eskom'sslash V for the E trends. So this is a helpful wayto look at the data and kind of make senseof everything. Another website to go to is stats dot podcast indexdot org slash V for v.
I know it's not the easiest way ofof grabbing these things, but that's,that's another way. And then there's another one Livewiredot io slash podcast what's that. Dash index dash dot statsvisualised with a Z in the in the visualised and thatone I can't remember who these graphs looks likethey're John Spurlock so yeah dataprovided by the podcast index visualisedby John Spurlock. So all of thesesorts of graphs I found these outby saving bookmarks on the podcastindex. Mastodon. So if you're interestedin these things, you kind of just needto hang around there and you'll start to get information and you will findthings out.
And my service highlightfor this week, I actually wantto pull out Fountain because one of the thingsthat they do is they have their podcastcharts. And so every dayI believe they update this or at the very leastevery week and it shows, you know, which of the hottest shows in terms of the amount being boostedin to these shows, whichepisodes in particular are doing well. So if I just go hereat the moment, it's there's a no agenda show,there's a Linux unplugged, there's a boostagram ball a podcastingtwo point 0, I can see like a Christianon here, I can see one financial one There's all sortsI can see one of Cole McCormick'sshows on there as well.
There'sa lot of different things going on here,so that's a useful way. And then there's brass sectionwhere you can see, okay, some peopleare boosting in in a relativelybig amounts, 111,111 from Bitcoin risingto one of their favourite shows obviouslyRabbit Hole recap. What's that? That'sprobably twenties $30 us So you know these amountsthey do make a difference when they add up So very very cool to see and that'sjust another little app and service highlightI just wanted to give up And then finally the valuefor value section. Who am I going to give 15% of this week'sboost and support to?
I'm going to give itto Ron Ploof, because these chartsthat I have made, I've used thempretty extensively and they have been very,very helpful. He wasn't the only one, of course, but I willactually get John Spurlock and thank him in ain a separate episode. Probably the the next onethat I was hinting at, the charts, the personal one, because there'ssome other charts which are pretty goodfor that, whichare more personal for me. But yeah, 15%for this week for for him for creating these coolthings there. You know, it's something I would never be ableto do myself, you know, accessing the podcastindex API of knowinghow to collect the data of creating a decent graph from this, of being ableto automate it.
All of this stuff, which I don't knowhow to do yet, is immensely valuablebecause we get some information onwhat's actually happening. What are these thingsbeing adopted? Are people using them? So 15% to himfor this week. So thank you very much,my friend. Ron, please. And I'm going toleave it there for today. Thank you, everyone, for joining another episode of theValue for Value podcast, the so many thingsI want to touch upon and just want to leave iton a high note of, you know, all of thisstuff is getting adopted, but it's slow.
And so if you come in red hot,just expect like it's going to take a little bit of time,but over time it will dramaticallychange your life. And I can say my life has changeddramatically in this. You know, last three yearssince podcasting, 2.0 has has risen up. And in the last two and a half yearsthat I've been an active participant. And it hasimmensely changed my life. And the value for valuesystem is the I think, the way to goand is for all sorts of reasons. But from just whatwe've seen here today, it is growing,but it's a slow growth. So I don't I don't get toowild about it and that's it.
Thank youeveryone for joining me and till the next episode,chao for now, Kyrin out.
Give me some stats ... stat! Welcome everyoneto another episode of the Value4 Value Podcast. My name is Kyrin,host of the Mere Mortals and Mere MortalsBook Reviews, but also this one,which is for digital content creators, those who are trying to connectmore deeper with their audience,connect more deeply with them, and to also monetisetheir show to be able to find a way of creatinga sustainable lifestyle. I suppose with what they're creating, whether this bethrough podcasts predominantly is whatI'm talking about here, but hopefullyalso in other manners of digital connectionmediums.
As we've talked about previouslywith music and with writingand things like this. So this topic for today,I'm going to be talking about podcasting 2.0 stats is the V4the ecosystem growing and the thing with statsis, look, I could just be a nerdything on my part, but everyone seems to lovestats and graphs, you know, and I wanted to stick, I suppose,with the general trends of what is happeningwith values for value and with podcastingto point out is this stuffgaining adoption? And I'll do a kind ofpersonal case study probably inabout a month's time of my actual experiences using the valuefor value model and get you some real dataon on how you know how many satoshishave come and how many peoplehave supported the showand things like this.
So that's onefor for a month's time where I do my kind of like big recaps of three quartersand things like this. So let's go intosome of the current stats that we seefrom podcasting to Pono, and this is definitelyin episode you want to be listening toon a podcasting app which does showthe chapters and images and links because I'mgoing to be referencing quite a few graphsand things like this. And the first graph, let's talk with adoptionof tags and in particular I'm going to be lookingat the two tags related to many, many,many, many. So the firstthis being value blocks, which as I mentionedin one of the previous episodes, episode numberor let me bring up my um, my actual numbershere, I'm pretty sure it was 43and 44.
Yeah, this was related to micropaymentsand boostagrams. So the value block putting a lightning addressin your actual feed for people to be able to boost in via all of thesecool new apps. And we can seeon the chart here these, these chartsgo from about five months worth of data. So startingon the 1st of May 2023, you Americanswith your 5/1/ 2023 so confusing and then going to basicallythe start of September and you can see pretty linear chartgoing up from around 13,000 113,200value blocks all the way up to about 15,000as of September of 2023. So we can see there's a a, you know, four or five month period that there's been a jumpof about 2000 podcasts jumping up.So that's pretty cool.
And then the one below, it is relatedto the funding tag. And so this is being able to put a link for peopleto support you into. I suppose you buy or,or into your, your podcast and it will show up as likea little dollar sign within certainpodcasting apps which people can click andthat will take them to a like a patronlink or to a PayPal, which is whatI have on this podcast, or to perhaps a buy mea coffee. It's it's basically a way, it's a linkthat people you can send people towhich will be able for them to support youwith the Fiat. And so once again, going from May of 2023to September and we can see that was about 35,500 podcasts withthe funding tag in it.
And this has jumped upto about 42,400, something like that,42,000. So adoption of tagsrelated to money. Now that's pretty good. That's a 12%and 15% in four months respectively forthose two graphs there. And this is where you cango. Okay. Well, obviously there's quite a bit of adoptiongoing on here. Is this a linearor is this an exponential one? It's kind of hard to tell withjust four months. Well,I mean, like with four months,it's relatively obvious. It's it's a lineartype graph. But I'm going to talka little bit more about how this perhapsisn't reflectiveof the overall numbers or of comparedto the amount of podcasts that are out there.
So let's jumponto the next one here. And this is a graphshowing the amounts of satoshisthat have been boosted in on a seven day periodand on a 90 day period, as well as the amountof transactions and the amount of uniquesenders doing this. And so for reference,I've taken the data from this from a coupleof different sources. Most of it's coming fromthe podcasting 2.0 API, which is basically the way for for you to access the podcastindex, which has all of this dataon, on, you know,the amount of podcasts that they havein their system, what sort of tagsthey're using, and people have createdgraphs from this and I'll give them a reference in the kind of end of the show notesand things like this.
But you can also find the chapter in the chapterlinks in the there's a link to where you can findthese graphs as well. So these two graphs which are just showingbasically that it's kind of beenrelatively stable, I guess on a seven day period or a 90 day periodfor the amount of boosts and things coming in. And so I've got a couple of little takeawaysright here. So the correlation of the lines,what you see is basically the amount of sets that are being Satoshi is being boosted in the amountof transactions and the amount of uniquesenders. They roughlyfollow each other, especially on the sevenday period.
You can see when when there's lesspeople boosting in, there's less support and there's lessamount of transactions. And this is, I think,just a good check to go, okay, are people are listeners who are tuning into podcasts and supportingtheir favourite podcast is, you know, is this just being reliant on a couple ofindividual people or is it the amount of people all roughlybehave the same way? And so kind of just to illustrate this,you know, imagine if you had ten people who were the biggest supportersand they were far outweighingtheir support in in whatever showsthat they wanted to.
And if perhaps for, you know,they went on holiday or a couple of themwent away or, you know,didn't access a podcast for whatever dayor things like this, if they were the ones who were really dominatingthe charts and were having an outsized impact, you would see you'd only haveone less unique listener. But the whole supportamount or the transaction amountwould drop dramatically, which is not what you see. What you seeis that all of these lines roughly correlatewith each other, which means the people who are listeningand who are supporting, they're all roughly kind of taking the sameamount of actions, the amount of supportthey might use is is varyingand dependent on, you know, the person.
I guess, though,some people who are perhapsmore wealthier, they might be willingto send in, you know, 50 bucks toa show really regularly, you know, once a week or once a day basis,who knows? Whereas other peoplewho are more like myself, who don't have 50 bucksto spend daily on on on their favouritepodcasts, they use smaller amounts. But where you can say,okay, the linesroughly match up. So when I'mtalking about this, I'm really looking at thethe seven day chart. Another takeaway to seehere is that on average there's about 109sets sent per transaction. And so if you were to equate this into dollar terms, it would be about $0.02.
I think this would be inUS dollars, I think, or Australian,you know, it's it's roughly the samewhen it's at these low, low levels. So what do you guys usethat pennies in the US And the takeaway fromthis is I guess just micropayments work. If you were seeing transactions of this amount and they weren't reachingthe podcaster, Look, I can just sayon a personal note they are reaching to me and they're not all beingspent on these for, you know, the amount of like PayPal for example,if you were to use that and they've got a base feeand then they take a chunk of percentageon top of that, a lot of these apps do have a percentagethat they ask for to, you know, to helpsupport their development to for providingall this infrastructure.
But what you can see is like, okay, the transactionsamounts are pretty small, but they're still working. It's not like there's a big gap between what peopleare sending in to me and what I'm actuallyreceiving. And yes, I know thisbecause I do tons of test boost to myselfand to other people and I can see thatthey're receiving it. So, you know,micropayments work. The Lightning Networkis actually working. So that's a good takeawayfrom that. Another oneis that there's a roughly on averageabout 300 people per day and the rough amount that they're supporting in a single given day isabout one dollars as well.
So obviously this is goingto be changing depending on some, you know, some people would probably be sending $10 a day and thenothers would be sending, you know, $0.10 a day. But it all averages outto that amount. And what you can see is $1a day is is certainly affordablefor most people. And this is probably abouthow much I'm personally spending maybe a bit more. And it's I guess it's just affordableis the key takeaway. So one, you know, it'saffordable to be sending these small amountsper day, $1 per day, and it's actually reachingthe destination. Whereas if I was trying to send a dollar per dayusing PayPal, it wouldn't workbecause they take, you know, 50something sense of that plus an extrathing on top.
And so only what $0.30 of that would of thatwould actually reach the the podcast, whereasin this case it would be, you know, 95%, 97%,something like that. So one,you know, it's affordable to do as a listener and it's actually working and getting tothe correct destination. And then the finalone here, which isn't exactly related tothis chart, but, you know, if you take the 90 days, you can see thatthere is about $26,000 us being sent through thethe Lightning Network to podcasters. So this is about 100 million sets, which isa Bitcoin essentially. And if you take this overa yearlong period, that would be about$100,000.
So it's still nota crazy amount of money. You know, if you were to divide that with the amount of peoplewith valuable as we've seen,which is 15,000, you know, that would only be like for $4.6 per podcast,something like that. But this is not thebest way of looking at it. And I'll talk about thatin a second. And if you compare this to so $100,000over a yearlong period for using the valuefor value, lightning transactionpayments with Bitcoin, and if you compare itto like the rough ad market, for example,for podcasting, which I believe is aroundthe $2 billion range, you can see per year, you could say, okay,there's there's a fair amountof room to grow here.
And this is whereI just want to put this kind of caveat,which is it can be easy to spin all these numbers in apositive or negative way. So if you wanted to put itin a negative way, you can just say, you know,most people aren't using these toolsto support verse lotsa and in this case you could go,you know, it's flat lining the ecosystem'snot growing and sure more people, more podcasters are putting value tagsand funding tags in there in their podcast. But are they actuallygetting supported more. Oh look at the 90 day. It's it's flatand it's not growing.
People aren'tsupporting more. That's kind of the negativeway of putting on it. The positive way is likeyou got to remember that all of this stuff isis kind of bell curves. And it's really onlywhen you take the charts over a longer periodwhere you can see it's beenbasically exponential because none of thisexisted two years ago. So hell yeah,it's growing. You know, now people are sending a Bitcoin every 90 days through this to theirfavourite podcasters. And yeah, sure, it's not. Once again, if you divided the total amount by theamount of podcasters who with a value block,you could, you'd go, okay, it'snothing, it's $6 per podcast or like that'snot in a 90 day period or sorry, in a in a yearlong period that's, that's worthless.
Like, you know,what's the point? But once again, it's this is kind of like a bell curveor exponential thing where look most podcastwith this in there they've justchucked it in. They haven't told theirpodcast, their favourite, they haven't told theirlisteners, Hey, can you support meusing these methods? They'vejust put it in there. So if you don't ask it, nothing'sgoing to come through. And Ican just say personally, I have been askingand I have been, you know, very vocal about my listeners supporting me and I have certainlyearned more than $6 for a year long period.
So the it's importantto note, I guess, thatall of this is not you can't justaverage things out and say this isn't working because it's such smallamounts on an average. If you look at your kindof end goals or whatyou're trying to do, you can see, okay, this is actually gettingto a period where or I suppose an amounta value which is sustainable for for actually havinga lifestyle to be able to to live upon. And I'll talk about that certainly more in the casestudy that I do next month. But I can just say,you know, for me it's not there yet, but it's getting thereand it's certainly a lot closerthan I was a year ago.
And so, yeah, this was just,I suppose, something to look at. And there was,I guess some with the funding tag, for example, I have no idea how much it's going through PayPalor Patron on or buy me a coffee. I don't know these things, so I can'tsee those numbers. So it is just encouraging. If you go back to that,that first graph, which was with the feedswith value books and feeds with the funding tagin the second chapter, that is justwhere you can see, okay, well podcasts are actually adopting isthey are starting to to put them in their feed.
So it doesn't meannothing. There is something there. And then the the last one graph that I have hereis that it's a couple of things. So I'm showing thetotal podcast in the index and how often theseare getting published. I've got a little pieceof information down the bottom left here,which is showing the amount of podcastwith valuable transcripts, funding to chapters,medium music, medium video. So just a lot of the tags. And then the topis showing these over time,starting from the what's that, November of 2022 upuntil September of 2023. So a bitof a longer period.
Once again, like you can just seeall of these lines of the linear,but they're going up and there are a lot more podcastersusing the funding tag transcripts, valuable chapters of musicand of video. And I suppose my takeawayfrom all of this of the, you know, 4.2 millionpodcasts are in the in the index. There's probably about,you know, 400,000 of them that are really activeas in they'vethey've posted something in the last 60 days,in the last two months because a lot of podcasts have been created and people aren'tworking on them. And what you can saywith this, okay, you know, all of the 10% of activeshows and sorry of all of theseshows, 10% of them have put a funding tagor a value block in there.
In there. Well,definitely the funding tag and maybe the valueblock as well. So, you know, my assumption here beingbecause the funding tag is such arelatively new thing, it's likelyonly that shows which are activeare putting it in. So when you put itthat way, all of the all the podcasters who are actually creating podcastsat this moment, 10% of them have a mechanismfor their their audience to support them withintheir actual RSS feed. You can say, okay, well,you know, the takeaway from this issupporters decide this. These are podcasterswho are actually going to the effort of saying, here's a waythat you can support me.
And so if you're takingthis in, like the value for value approach, you go, okay,well, this is obviously where people are wantingto be supported by their listenersand not relying only on an advertisingor a sponsorship model or something like this. So that I thought was a kind of coollittle tech way to go. All right. Well, you know,10% of shows, that's that's actually a fairchunk, especially because thisall is so decentralised. This all is, you know, people are doingself hosting. There's so many differenthosts from, you know, Buzz Sprout toRSS dot com to captivate, you know, transistorthe bubble.
There's so many differentplaces that people can go to. And not all of these hosts have made it easy for the podcasters to putthese types in as well. So just on my portion, I would say like, okay,this is a pretty encouraging sign. Another one, new mediumsbeing used. This is where you can seethe medium tag of music and of video and especially music overthe last two month period since the the bootcamp all came outsince the ability to use value time splits, which I talkedabout quite extensively in episode 46and in 45 and 46, that's where you can see,okay, people actually using these mediumsas well, these new ones.
So it's not just supported podcasters who are reapingthe benefits from this. It is the other musicians,it is people who create video,for example, and so yeah,just as a kind of general summingup on the current stats, once again,if you want to put a negative light on it,you can. But I think on the positive way for mejust in this, you know, 90 day rough periodthat I was looking at, it shows thatit's sustainable. It shows that peoplearen't supporters aren't dropping off,that there is money flowing through the system and that the podcastersthemselves are starting to adoptall of these tags.
So I think on a personal notefor myself, I'm looking at in a positive life lightand the way that I really look atthis is let's go for a little blastto the past. And by that I mean and you know, three years agobecause the podcasting 2.0 now, it only startedin September of 2020. So, you know, almostexactly three years ago. And just looking back,it's important to remember how allhow new all of this is. And me personally,I joined the kind of podcasting 2.0in July of 2021. So I was a little bitlate to the game. I was, what, like eight months behind,something like that.
And I've gota little screenshot here which is showing AdamCory of and I bookmark thisbecause I at the time, because I thoughtit was pretty cool. And he's replying toDaniel J. Lewis and James Cridlandfrom Pod News and he's saying, you know, it'sno longer important how many people usean app, it's how much valuean app generates as my new metric. And so he's saying, here's the podcastindex daily metric. And because the podcastindex asks for a 1% split or from the appsto help support the index and help make all of this happen,that's how we get all of thisdata.
And so what he's got hereis just a little, I suppose, screenshot capture of of how much has been flowingthrough the system. And it was, you know, like this is over the last day 18,000 stats through brazefor 599 transaction costs a matic 1600 fountainthe big baller 23,258 And then you're sayingyou know Apple and Spotifybring zero valued me which is crazybecause if you go okay wellfrom September of 2020, that was literallynothing. There was no index, there was no Bitcoin,there was no lightning. Some of these appsdidn't even exist. And then now a year later,so this is in, you know, October of 2021,there's six apps and they're sending about60,000 stats per day.
Okay. Well, now, that'snot a huge, crazy amount. Let's jump to three yearslater. Well,now it's 12 about 12 apps and that's sending 1.5million per day. Okay. Well, that's a that's apretty big jump there. And so there was athere was actually a point right near the beginning where I had enabledabout three or four of my podcastwith value with the value tag. And I remember distinctlythat at that time there was only about 300to 500 podcastswith it enabled at all. And so I, you know,I dominated 1% of the value marketmore hahaha. And it was just such a kind of newrevolutionary thing like and it was hard,goddamn, it was hard trying to figure outall of the stuff you had to doso many things to, to, to get onto it.
But I can certainly sayit's improved dramatically with places like Fountain allowing you to helpput stats in to you to to do it in a I guess a methodby really, really easily. If you're a podcast hostjust putting in your your email that willcreate a wallet for you. They'll do all the stuffbrilliant. It's thereand it's ready to go and you can actually startusing some of the actual podcasting hostnow, such as Blueberry, to, to be able to put this informationin your feed. Okay. And then the final portionwith this is just does all of this matter?Does growth matter?
Is this a healthyecosystem? Is this actually,you know, how we go into the moon? Is this, you know, metricswise, 12%, 6%, 100%. It's like, are weare we growing? And I think the importantthing to remember is just there's no point if it doesn'treach your end goal. And it's importantto consider what is your end goal? Is it just to cover the costs of your podcastfor creating it? Is ita little bit of bonus pocket money, perhaps. So it's just anice to have. Are you looking fora full time income? That's kind of theposition that I'm more at. Are you lookingto become a millionaire?
Are you lookingto become a billionaire? These are the important things to considerwhen you're looking at the value for value system and the ecosystemand all of these numbers. I was just saying here I want to reiterate, whichI was one of the things that really attracted meto podcasting to point out is that nobody's goingto become rich from this. And if someone does becomerich, you know, I'm talking multi-millionaireor billionaire level, something's gone wrong because this is meantto be for everyone. And so we've seen, okay,there's 15,000 podcasts with the valuetag enabled in it.
We've seen, okay, there's 300 people roughly per daysending money to theirfavourite podcaster. And this is going to bedifferent people as well. It's not the same300 people because, you know, some people,you don't listen to podcasts every single dayand this is where it's just going, okay, well,what do you want? Do you want to become a billionaireor a millionaire? This is probablyisn't the place for you. The value for value model probablyisn't the way to do it. You probably wantto go down a much more, I would say,riskier route, which is going forthe kind of like Joe Rogan or being picked up like a by a massive,massive podcasting company or just creating somethingso viral.
So, you know, it's very, very, very hardto do these things, whereas the valuefor value, it's much more of a steadygrowth. You know, you keep plugging away at your podcast,you be consistent, you make sure thatyour ask is really good and make surethat you're doing things well and that peopleknow about it. You keep providingvalue to your audience and over timethis will accumulate and you will be able to start sustaining yourselfor reaching these little goalsof covering costs. I'm at that moment,at the moment where, yes, I'm earningenough to cover costs for the podcast.Brilliant.
In fact, I'm probably reached the stagewhere it's now like, Ooh, I got a little bit ofbonus pocket money here. This is awesome. I need to keep creatingsomething great, something, you know, magical, something that drawspeople in, being consistent,providing this value. So that I can startreaching this next stage of,you know, a full time income of being ableto do this and being supported by it and being ableto live in the world and pay rent and food and all of these sortsof nice things. But, you know, I'm not lookingfor the million dollars if I if I can get,you know, 40 grand a yearServices Australia.
And so that wouldprobably be like, I don't know, 30, 25,something like that, that I wouldconsider myself blessed. I would consider myselflike, I've done it,I've made it. And that that'swhat I'm trying to do. And this is where it'sjust like, okay, you know, all of these things. Does does growth matter? It only mattersinto your context if if you're reaching the goalsthat you're looking for, that'sthat's perfectly fine. And you don't you don't want to,for example, be looking at a valuefor value. And it's like, what type of podcastwill get me the most support from using thevalue for value method?
In this case,you'd probably be saying a Bitcoin podcastbecause this is where using the Bitcoin as themechanism for sending it. Obviously with the Fiat and the funding, well, it could beany sort of show. No agenda, for example, is probablyone of the biggest they and theirsis about news and media but it's, it's depend onyou spent on you to figure outwhat you want and all of these stats and metricsI gave you just here. They're nicethings to know. They're nice to know,okay, this is actually growing,at least on a year long timescale, on yearsand years.
But if you'relooking at this for like the next 90 daysand you're saying, I want to capture this,I want to get all of this moneyor something like this, this isn'tthe place for you. This isn't the placeto be doing this. It's it's a long term thingthat you need to work out. And yeah, that's kind of just my my little encouragement, therefore, for that and trying to squash downany unrealistic expectations of growthbecause growth doesn't matter. It's about how you livein the world and it's abouthow you feel and interactwith your audience. That's the whole point ofthe value for value model and another point of itis to thank some people who are helping to besupporting this show.
And man,this is probably one of the best weeksI've ever had. So beforeI get on to that, Mr. Adam Curry, can you pleasetake it away with the Grand Lounge music Welcometo the Value for Value. Mr. Graham Lounge. Okay, I'm going to do this in a differentmethod than normal because I've got quitea few coming in here. And so once again, a boostagram is a message you can send withinyour podcasting app. It will go directly to mewith the message with a payment of satoshis, i.e. money, and this helpsto support the show, helps to support me, helps meto reach that goal I'm looking for,of creating a sustainable incomefor myself to be able to continueto create these shows, to create the Valuefor value podcast and the main modelsand the book reviews because I want to providevalue in that way.
This is the waythat I want to, to live in the world, and it's very muchappreciated when I when I get these inand it helps give me some good contentfor the show. So starting offfrom lowest to highest, we have cardboardgiraffe 300. Yeah, 333 sets sentusing fountain. It gives me a yellow loveheart emoji. Oh, God. WOODRUFFThank you so much. Coming in hot after him is a little testboost that I did for myselfbecause I had to change up some things in my feed. I will talk about thatshortly. And then we have theGolden Dragon, He says. Thank youfor this podcast.
I am boosting the pledgeI made on my second to last blog post over at Golden Bloga thon dot com where bearded bearded tech and I am lookingto implement V for be on blogs andvaluable information here sending all the statsthe blog has made so far. Dude, that is man, I'm hot warmed. I'm soappreciative of that because that's that'syou know your hard work and your choosingto send that over to here. I have actuallychecked out his blog and he's got some prettycool information on there. This actually has beensomething I've been strugglinga little bit with, mostly just becauseI want to make it easy for people to boost me.
And so I've tried implementing a couple of thingson my own website. If you go many models podcast dotcom such support, you can kind of see whatI've got going on there. It's not as good a model as a methodas I would like. And so I'm actually I might bedoing an episode on, on whathe's working on over here because I think it is usefulfor kind of the tech side of thingsas text, text and tech side of things. So thank you very much. Mr. Golden Dragon. I did look up your name, but I've I've forgotten,unfortunately. Sorry. Sorry.
My friend are comingstraight after him. We've got Mr. Cole McCormickfrom the America Plus podcast with his favourite boost of 5492 sentusing Fountain as well. And he says I'm guiltyof promoting a single app. Looking back, the decisionwas to simplify podcasting to point out and valuefor value narratives. But as time moves on, I've been wantingmore reach within the other modernpodcasting apps. I need a succinct wayto talk about the project and system and optionsupgrade and progress. A very cool couple. Yeah. This is look, it'sit makes sense, right? It's it is such a complexecosystem of so many different things.
I talked about thison the models in a recent episodeI did on on Bitcoin and I wasn't tryingto convince people of, of thatI've kind of come to my own conclusionsafter, you know,three years of studying it of, of saying, okay, yeah,this is actually legit. But the problem with it isyou have to learn all of these various sidethings. You have to learn about open source,you have to learn about finance,you have to learn about the monetary system ofof lending, of what is money. And podcasting2.0 is very similar, which is and valuefor value, which is, I think the on the surfaceis relatively simple.
But if you want tounderstand podcasting 2.0, you do have to understandabout the relationships between the hostsof listeners and the apps. You do have to understandabout how RSS works. This is something I had toto really dive into. You have to understandabout, you know, what is tipping donations, how people feel when they when they donate toof the feedback loop of all of the topicsI've talked about here. And so yeah,but look, it's a processof simplifying it and then expanding it I think, and doing itin a way that you can do. And yeah, I'm really keento see how you progress with that call because it's it's hard.
It's hard, man. I fully feelyou coming in. Next we have a onewhich was actually coming from yesterdayand it's an old and old podcastsupporter for this show because I'm pretty sureI've seen his name before. This is Steve Webb,the God caster. This is one of the guys,the gentleman who first found outabout podcasting, you know, back in 2004, 2005 and was veryquick on the bandwagon of of jumping on and creatinga his podcast. And man, he's been doing it for a whileand I'm on it and he says, Great show. Thanks for all the greatinfo. 7777 stryper boostthat using fountain again man Thank you.
Thank you so much, Steve I reallydo appreciate that God is on my side with value for value. We have now coming into some bigger baller boosts over here. We've got Macintoshfrom generation Bitcoin, he says. How many episodes a weekare you doing now? The laughing emoji facehaving trouble keeping up V fully V for V for lifeas too many fours in a, V for V for lifeor something like that. Macintosh 21,000,which is, I guess you'd call ita Bitcoin boost set sentusing fountain. At the very moment,my friends, I'm doing one book review, I'm doing onevalue for value and I'm doing to mea modest one.
So it's for those once upon a timewhere I was doing eight because I had another showcalled Prisoners in Spanglish, where I was doingbook reviews in Spanish, and I was just doingconversation. I was doing so muchto book reviews a week that was way too much for actually feelspretty sustainable. I've been doing thisfor a little bit now and I feelthis is probably about as much as I'd want to getto full four episodes a week of variousdifferent podcasts. And yeah, I think that's that's workingwell for me. So that's probably about roughlywhen I want to keep it up. And if you want to knowmore about Bitcoin, I'd actually recommend Generation Bitcoinbecause it's got some pretty handyepisodes there.
On how to learnabout that. And then finally, the biggest Ballerof the Boosters, we've got Chris Las from Jupiter Broadcastingand he says thanks for the kind wordsboost enough to say you have nailedthe ideas of V for V this is going to be my goto podcast for creators trying to wrap theirnoodle around all of this 60,000 setssent using Fountain o. Thank youChris, so much for that. It really does help. I appreciate it greatlyand it also helps to support this show tokeep things ticking over. And yeah, it's just it'sreally gratifying, man, to know that.
And yeah, look, this show, what I'm noticing from this is because I'mbeing so specific with my what I'm tryingto do with it and who I'm tryingto help. I'm noticing that it is, you know, kind of like paying the dividendsand then both support and the the variations of supportcoming through of of, you know, peopleleaving comments on the on the YouTube mini,a YouTube video I made for the music podcastand things like this. So very, very muchappreciated, my friend. Thank you so much for thatand that wrapping up our value for value boostagram section here and yeah, if you want to know moreabout all of you know how much this is actually contributing to toI suppose the mere models because it all kind of fallsunder that brand I guess, for what myself and oneare doing over there.
Yeah. Check out episodethat we do in about that I'll do in about a month's timeon here of the case study so you don't have towait for that one people. There's my littlea little teaser right here Before I goon, I do want to just say a big thanks to CSBfor last week's episode. Of course, of everythingthat he was doing. If you were noticingwhile boosting in I didn't have him inthe feed, had some problemswith Fountain and so I'm actually goingto move on to Blueberry and do everythingvia there. And so hopefully noweverything will be a little bit smoother.
And this is where it'sjust like you've got to you've got to work atthe stuff. It's a continual processof upgrading, of updating. I do this live,but I still don't have a chat yet. You know, there's so manythings I need to do, so I just much appreciatedfor everyone sticking around for any problemsthat I encounter, any things that I dowrong. It's all it'sall very much appreciated. So I'm going to go on to my little tip sectionhere, and I got most of this informationof these graphs of this datafrom participating and saving bookmarkson the podcast index. Mastodon.
I know I've given this tipbefore or this service highlight before,but there's no central authorityfor these things. There is no one placeto go where it's like a V for these stats. So I have actually used the stats from GriddleCakes dot com slash in and trends, which standsfor namespace trends. And then he'sgot another one here. And this Ron proofand he's got another one called gridlock Eskom'sslash V for the E trends. So this is a helpful wayto look at the data and kind of make senseof everything. Another website to go to is stats dot podcast indexdot org slash V for v.
I know it's not the easiest way ofof grabbing these things, but that's,that's another way. And then there's another one Livewiredot io slash podcast what's that. Dash index dash dot statsvisualised with a Z in the in the visualised and thatone I can't remember who these graphs looks likethey're John Spurlock so yeah dataprovided by the podcast index visualisedby John Spurlock. So all of thesesorts of graphs I found these outby saving bookmarks on the podcastindex. Mastodon. So if you're interestedin these things, you kind of just needto hang around there and you'll start to get information and you will findthings out.
And my service highlightfor this week, I actually wantto pull out Fountain because one of the thingsthat they do is they have their podcastcharts. And so every dayI believe they update this or at the very leastevery week and it shows, you know, which of the hottest shows in terms of the amount being boostedin to these shows, whichepisodes in particular are doing well. So if I just go hereat the moment, it's there's a no agenda show,there's a Linux unplugged, there's a boostagram ball a podcastingtwo point 0, I can see like a Christianon here, I can see one financial one There's all sortsI can see one of Cole McCormick'sshows on there as well.
There'sa lot of different things going on here,so that's a useful way. And then there's brass sectionwhere you can see, okay, some peopleare boosting in in a relativelybig amounts, 111,111 from Bitcoin risingto one of their favourite shows obviouslyRabbit Hole recap. What's that? That'sprobably twenties $30 us So you know these amountsthey do make a difference when they add up So very very cool to see and that'sjust another little app and service highlightI just wanted to give up And then finally the valuefor value section. Who am I going to give 15% of this week'sboost and support to?
I'm going to give itto Ron Ploof, because these chartsthat I have made, I've used thempretty extensively and they have been very,very helpful. He wasn't the only one, of course, but I willactually get John Spurlock and thank him in ain a separate episode. Probably the the next onethat I was hinting at, the charts, the personal one, because there'ssome other charts which are pretty goodfor that, whichare more personal for me. But yeah, 15%for this week for for him for creating these coolthings there. You know, it's something I would never be ableto do myself, you know, accessing the podcastindex API of knowinghow to collect the data of creating a decent graph from this, of being ableto automate it.
All of this stuff, which I don't knowhow to do yet, is immensely valuablebecause we get some information onwhat's actually happening. What are these thingsbeing adopted? Are people using them? So 15% to himfor this week. So thank you very much,my friend. Ron, please. And I'm going toleave it there for today. Thank you, everyone, for joining another episode of theValue for Value podcast, the so many thingsI want to touch upon and just want to leave iton a high note of, you know, all of thisstuff is getting adopted, but it's slow.
And so if you come in red hot,just expect like it's going to take a little bit of time,but over time it will dramaticallychange your life. And I can say my life has changeddramatically in this. You know, last three yearssince podcasting, 2.0 has has risen up. And in the last two and a half yearsthat I've been an active participant. And it hasimmensely changed my life. And the value for valuesystem is the I think, the way to goand is for all sorts of reasons. But from just whatwe've seen here today, it is growing,but it's a slow growth. So I don't I don't get toowild about it and that's it.
Thank youeveryone for joining me and till the next episode,chao for now, Kyrin out.
