Where it all begins.
In Ep #20 we examine the presentation of the PodFather himself (Adam Curry) aided by the PodSage (Dave Jones). P2.0 is spearheading the innovations in podcasting and also the methods of implementing the V4V model (which Adam helped create)!
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Welcome, everyone to anotherepisode of the value for value. Podcast. My name is Kyrin, I'mthe host of this one, obviously, as well as the Mere Mortals andMere Mortals book reviews. And in this podcast, we're going tobe going into a deep dive into a particular other podcast andexamining how they do their value for value model, what wecan learn from that and how we can maybe steal some of theirideas, implement it into our own shows and start living more ofthe value for value lifestyle. Now, we're gonna go into one ofthe first ones, which is maybe the preeminent, the primeexamples that you can find of people doing value for value andpeople doing it bloody damn good. And this is podcasting.2.0. So, for those who don't know, I'll read from their owndescription, the podcast index presents podcasting, 2.0upgrading podcasting. Okay, fellas, that's actually notsuper helpful. So I'll give a bit of a more in depth. And whatthis is, is a podcast hosted by Adam curry. Some of you mightknow him as the pod father, and also the person who reallyinvented the value for value model. So he has been covered inseason one of this podcast in particular, and also Dave Jones,who is a developer all round magician, the pod sage, who is aguy who's very well versed with all things dev developmentrelated, and they are, as they are saying, trying to upgradepodcasting. So they're 85 episodes deep now. And it'sessentially a boardroom for developments in the namespace.So if you're checking out the chapters right now, if you wantto know how to take your podcast live, so it can go and live inany podcasting apps, if you want to know how the podcast appsthemselves, implementing these features, what the podcastinghosts are doing, this is a fantastic show for do that.Similar to this own show that I run, it's almost a tester of thetags. So they use their own show to be like, Alright, let's trythis out and see how we can go and have something that thepodcasting apps can use that podcasting host can see thatpodcasts want to use. And it also contains a little bit ofpodcasting, gossip. So stuff around the world of podcasting,what's new, what's not, et cetera, et cetera. Now, I'm justgoing to dive into the value for value implementation, how dothese two actually go about implementing what what they'redoing? So I suppose one of the things that they do is theyreally have just one main section. So this is where theywill read out all of the examples that the given in oflistener support. And this can be done through many ways forthem. So they have the Pay Pal section, they'll sometimes readout just messages that perhaps people have sent in, notnecessarily with value attached, but sometimes gets thrown inthere, but in particular, the boostagram, so this is whereyou can send a message attached with a payment of Satoshis,which is Bitcoin for those who are unaware. And this goesdirectly through in a unsensible way in a distributed way.Fantastic way. So this is, I suppose, the core of podcasting2.0, and almost the core of value for value going into thefuture. So I'll play a little clip here, which I've taken fromthem. And I might jump forward a little bit a little bit back andpause it add my own little insights to what they're doing.But this is how they typically start off their value for valuesection.
As part of the manifesto thatI'm working on, I will be explaining how to ask for peopleto support what you're doing. That's all you have to do istalk about it apparently, in the pew pew show. So how to ask isit's really incredibly important. Our ask for this showis pretty simple. Everybody can see the results right there atthe index, you can see the work that's being done. And theliquidity that's being provided. And we're very, very pleased,you know, the, the we're healthy, we're moving forwardbecause people are very consistent. So keep it goingkeep on boosting, keep on sending us Fiat fun coupons, wewould like to thank a couple people to get it started off.Little Stanley in our blood there. So I just want to add in there, whatvalid, what Adam is doing there is he's really highlightingfirst of all the value that he's providing. So obviously, they'reworking on all of these tags.
They're providing all of these,you know, the infrastructure with the podcast index. So thishas the ability to have your podcast, sort of unsensible inmany ways, if you get kicked off of Apple doesn't really matter.You're on the podcast index still. And this can get out toany of the apps which are ingesting all of the podcaststhat are in there. So he's really highlighting first ofall, the value that he's he's providing to you. So if you'relistening to the show, if you've been this is one hour and 25minutes into the show already. So if you're, if you're sort ofin doubt as to whether you like it or not, you wouldn't havegotten to this section of the show. And now it's like, okay,you were doing all of these things for you. This is how youcan help support us out. And we want to acknowledge the supportthat you've given us. So this is where he'll typically pass it onto Dave. And Dave will start reading out, like you mentionedsome of the pay pals that they receive, but also the boostagrams.
What's your cue Dave? Oh, I thought you said I wouldlike point oh, this is Carolyn 8888. I enjoy usingfountain question for Oscar will be the wave where there'll be away for podcasters to control their presence on fountain. So this is where Adams doingsome of the live boosting at the moment. And he's highlightingthe different sections, I suppose. Because now you canhave live boosts. So your your podcast is now almost talkinginto like a little bit of a talk show, perhaps maybe it's almostlike a YouTube stream. So it's getting all of these differentfacets of of maybe how you would use your podcast in in adifferent manner. So typically, most of us are accustomed tojust uploading an audio file.
But now it's like, oh, you knowwhat, you can actually improve your show, get those thatlistener feedback direct in the moment, which has its own valuein itself? Not quite sure what she means?What does that mean? Do you know Oscar? Yeah, I think it probably meansthis is something that we've heard a few times, which is, andthis is a cool bit where you can also get questions from youryour listeners. So not only is the the the feedback, you know,showing, it doesn't necessarily always have to be a message justsaying, Oh, I really love the show, et cetera, et cetera,which is always fantastic and gratifying to hear. But it canbecome content on the show itself. So this is where thelistener is not only or as, as Adam would say, the producer.This is where they are actually helping to produce the showbecause hey, look, here's this cool content that they'reputting in. I'm going to skip forward another little bit andsee if Dave is starting to read out some of the monthlysections, we get some loose rum. And you can tell meif I repeat a boost that was live last week? I think I don'tI think I've got the timing right.
Okay, this is actually theboostagram section, I've skipped the monthlies, just,okay. That gives the road ducks 2222through curio gastrin another cool that thing that Ilike that they do is they really, it's really interactive.So you know, Adam is fantastic at putting all these clips in ofthe duck boost. The numerology, which is another really fun areathat he particularly as has highlighted in another one ofhis shows that that sort of cropped up is that, you know, ifyou boost Tu, Tu, Tu, Tu or any number of two's all together,you know, this sort of looks like a duck. So here's a littlejingle that looks like a duck, if you boost 8008, you know,that's a boob boost. And maybe you can have a jingle for that.Or, you know, you can get really creative with the thenumerology. So it's almost like turning it into a game for youryour listeners as well. So if the if you potentially wantparticular section or a particular boost to becomepopular, maybe you can invest more effort into creating a, Idon't know, a ghost boost, or something like that, whichshould maybe be like, ooh, so a number with a bunch of zeros atthe end of it, that could be a ghost boost. And then you couldput a lot of effort into that.
I've noticed this myself, youknow, I will sometimes boost this particular show to two totwo because I just really liked that that sound, or I wouldboost it another certain section or in particular ask for ajingle saying like, can I get the mic drop, please, I reallyenjoy hearing that one. So those are just the general way thatthey do it. I'm also going to jump on to a quick section here,where Adam and Dave, talk about how the the essence of why youneed to, to include that feedback from your listener intothe show. So this is one of the critical parts, I suppose thevalue for value model, which you might not hear from from otherpeople, because you might just think, oh, I can just include away for people to pay me and you know, it'll magically happen,but that's not exactly how it works. So here's them discussingwhy you need to include that user feedback into it as well.
Would you say that that's whereit always falls down? Is it when it falls down? It always fallsdown right there where the where the podcaster does not read thefeedback back into the show. It's then it doesn't work. It's notjust falling down. It just it never lifts off. It's just a critical piece thatgets it is not there, it just doesn't function. I mean it. And if you don't doit, then it just dries up, it stops. And it really is key thatyou have that segment in there. Cool, cool, cool. Awesome. Sothat is basically how podcasting two point O goes about doingtheir value for value. And I also am going to have a littleunique section, I guess something unique, what do theydo that I haven't seen many others do, and maybe that youcould steal from, like I have from for the Miyamoto show. Sothere's two things that I think that they do, which might be, Isuppose different to what what the normal person would do.Number one is they have a amount set up so that if you cross acertain threshold, they will send you a t shirt. So onceagain, it's it's sort of value for value for value for value,like it goes on, it keeps on trading back and forth, it's notjust like it's a one off, I provide a new value, now youprovide it back, it can sort of turn into a continuous cycle. Sofor them, it used to be $100, or the the equivalent of $100 andSatoshis. Sending that through, believe it's now 125. And thiswas a pretty big motivator for me to be honest to to quicklyrack up a bunch of support for them, so that I could get on thelist to get a t shirt, which I ended up getting. And it'sfantastic. And I love it. So this is one of the cool thingswhere it's, you know, maybe you should think about ways of howyou can include more of a feedback loop. So not just thevalue that you're providing, within your show, maybe you canextend this out more into the real world. Or you could belike, you know, say you've got a tax accounting show or whatnot.If you get up to a certain level of support, I can provide youwith more tax accounting advice.
Now this is not particularly Isuppose the difference between this and maybe the the gatedpaywall option I, you'll get bonus content, if you go to myPatreon and you'll unlock the sort of hidden thing there. It'smore of a voluntary one. So it's it's somewhat, it's not itdoesn't have that gatekeeper feel to it. Because it's more,you know, if if you get up to this level, we'll sort of do it.But it's not like, if you want this thing, you'd have to dothis, you know, if if you were desperately broke, but you'veloved everything that they're doing, and you're trying toprovide value back to them, and you sent them a message saying,hey, like I really want to support like, I'm doingeverything I can, but I just don't have the money, they wouldprobably send you a shirt if that's what you really wanted.And in return for the value that you're providing by maybeproselytizing, the show on social media, or, you know,there are many different ways that you can provide value,time, talent and treasure.
There's if you go back into theethics and season one, you'll you'll see that term cropping upa lot. Another one, which I think is kind of unique. And I'mnot sure exactly how much this plays into the whole value forvalue model, but it's something that they do is David doesn'tlook at the booster ground beforehand. So he willintentionally not read them until the show comes so he cansort of have a genuine reaction whilst doing that. Now mepersonally, I tend to look at them beforehand. I don'tparticularly have any qualms or issues with that. But maybethat's a thing that you could implement into your own show andbe like, You know what, I would prefer not to have the that, Isuppose essence of surprise, I would start I would prefer to besurprised. So there's cool things going on. I want to checkit out. Oh, well, that's a really random comment. I didn'texpect that it's gonna make me think a bit and I can respond onthe on the spot. So those are a couple of the little uniquethings there. Now I'm going to go into my own section and showokay, this is not only is this a value for value, the value forvalue podcast, but how do I run value for value in here and mineis similar to Adam and Dave, but you know, I've got I've got myown little way of doing it. So welcome everyone to the boosterGraham lounge.
Welcome to the value for valuewas to Graham. Oh yeah, that's sensual.Welcome, everyone. So today, we've got two booster gramscoming in. So I do want to thank both of these listeners fortheir support. And we'll start off with Peter who sent through1234 sets. So Peter is actually very well known on the MereMortals podcast because he's a very big supporter over there.He says Welcome back. I listened to several shows that use valuefor that. Are you in their own way? If you're looking for moreexamples, I will definitely hit Peter up for that. And he sentthat through in Fountain I believe. And so, yes, you know,another perfect example there a value for value I, well, I'm noteither shortage of shows that I could use for value for value.There's now 5000, something 5000 Plus shows which which do it soI'm not at a shortage, but definitely finding ones thatmaybe do things in their own way and slightly unique manner,which I can highlight on here.
Definitely I'll, I'm interestedin those sorts of things. So yes, thank you, Peter. And Iwill I will take you up on that offer. The other one is frommetus. So this is metus. From Fun Fact, Friday, with, which hedoes with his daughter, Leila. And so Mita says, great idea fora show we tell our listeners about visa vie almost everyepisode on Fun Fact, Friday with Lila and David. There's the fullshow name, sometime. Quick, sometimes in depth. Sometimesquick, sometimes in depth, I'm looking for a solution to get myvoice actors Wallet. So I can give them splits on my audiofiction show me this pod. So there you go. Meet us has acouple of different shows. He's also highlighting how you canalso have splits included.
That's one of the things I'mplanning on doing. But I'll talk more about that in the upcomingformat section. And, and because he sent this in, you know what,I'm going to cover him for the next episode. So the nextepisode of of this, we'll be highlighting how he does it onFun Fact Friday, which I actually believe is celebratingits 100th episode coming up pretty soon. So that'll be afun, cool thing. And as I just mentioned, the format section.So this is not going to be a regular part of this. But just acouple of notes and thoughts of highlighting or continuing onfrom what I was saying in Episode 18, or 1990, which washow I was going to structure these shows and how I was goingto run it. So I think I'll continue the format similar towhat I've done today, which would be a quick little intro, ashow description. So I this is what podcasting 2.0 is, and thisis what they do, how they do the value for value implementation.And this is where I'll play some clips, play some things that Ithink they're doing maybe in a in a that is the core of howthey ask for value for value. So this would maybe be likeexamining the language that they're using, whether it's, youknow, the different psychological tricks that youcould use the different ways of creating engagement, making itmore fun things like that. And then I'll go into somethingunique section, which I think would be okay, this is what Ithink they really doing a spin that they've got, which maybeother people don't, and maybe something that that you can do.So I think I'll bundle all of that into one show. And then Imight even do another show, I'm noticing that people seem to beinterested in this idea of of examining others and seeing howthey're doing it. So I'm still at a crossroads here to see howmuch time I've got to really invest in this. But I do want tomake at least a solid effort of it. And like I mentioned, thisis a test a podcast for me in a way as well. So I'm sort ofthinking that'll be a pre recorded one. And then maybe Ican do a live one, which is where I'll go over the latestsort of podcasting news. Maybe even the latest value for valuenews, how different payment methods are being set up why youmight want to focus more on boostagrams, say, for example,rather than PayPal, or through Patreon or things like that. Andthis is maybe where I'd also do my boostagram section. Butthat's probably going to be a little bit in the works becauseI've got a lot to figure out to how to do these podcasts livebecause I'm not a super tech nerd. I am just not gonna say a joke, butI'm not a joke either. So I don't know what I am. But in anycase, that that's the general setup that I'm going to berunning and thank you for reaching the end of thisepisode. Once again. I said I'd try and keep these short andsharp but I have a feeling they're gonna go long anyway sowhatever this is going to probably be about the normalepisode length probably the 15 to 20 minute ish minutes ish andyeah, I hope you've gotten some some good ideas once again, Iwould encourage you to if you've found any good ideas from heresend me a thanks by sending me through a boostagram and Iwill of course read it out and if you want your showhighlighted as well and and maybe a little shout out maybewhat you think you know asked me to To see what you're doing andmaybe even give some advice on maybe how you could improve it,et cetera, et cetera I'll the following previous week I'll golisten to your show for a bit and an examine that andhighlighted add on here. So thanks everyone for joining andI hope you're having a fantastic day wherever you are in theworld, Kyrin out.
Welcome, everyone to anotherepisode of the value for value. Podcast. My name is Kyrin, I'mthe host of this one, obviously, as well as the Mere Mortals andMere Mortals book reviews. And in this podcast, we're going tobe going into a deep dive into a particular other podcast andexamining how they do their value for value model, what wecan learn from that and how we can maybe steal some of theirideas, implement it into our own shows and start living more ofthe value for value lifestyle. Now, we're gonna go into one ofthe first ones, which is maybe the preeminent, the primeexamples that you can find of people doing value for value andpeople doing it bloody damn good. And this is podcasting.2.0. So, for those who don't know, I'll read from their owndescription, the podcast index presents podcasting, 2.0upgrading podcasting. Okay, fellas, that's actually notsuper helpful. So I'll give a bit of a more in depth. And whatthis is, is a podcast hosted by Adam curry. Some of you mightknow him as the pod father, and also the person who reallyinvented the value for value model. So he has been covered inseason one of this podcast in particular, and also Dave Jones,who is a developer all round magician, the pod sage, who is aguy who's very well versed with all things dev developmentrelated, and they are, as they are saying, trying to upgradepodcasting. So they're 85 episodes deep now. And it'sessentially a boardroom for developments in the namespace.So if you're checking out the chapters right now, if you wantto know how to take your podcast live, so it can go and live inany podcasting apps, if you want to know how the podcast appsthemselves, implementing these features, what the podcastinghosts are doing, this is a fantastic show for do that.Similar to this own show that I run, it's almost a tester of thetags. So they use their own show to be like, Alright, let's trythis out and see how we can go and have something that thepodcasting apps can use that podcasting host can see thatpodcasts want to use. And it also contains a little bit ofpodcasting, gossip. So stuff around the world of podcasting,what's new, what's not, et cetera, et cetera. Now, I'm justgoing to dive into the value for value implementation, how dothese two actually go about implementing what what they'redoing? So I suppose one of the things that they do is theyreally have just one main section. So this is where theywill read out all of the examples that the given in oflistener support. And this can be done through many ways forthem. So they have the Pay Pal section, they'll sometimes readout just messages that perhaps people have sent in, notnecessarily with value attached, but sometimes gets thrown inthere, but in particular, the boostagram, so this is whereyou can send a message attached with a payment of Satoshis,which is Bitcoin for those who are unaware. And this goesdirectly through in a unsensible way in a distributed way.Fantastic way. So this is, I suppose, the core of podcasting2.0, and almost the core of value for value going into thefuture. So I'll play a little clip here, which I've taken fromthem. And I might jump forward a little bit a little bit back andpause it add my own little insights to what they're doing.But this is how they typically start off their value for valuesection.
As part of the manifesto thatI'm working on, I will be explaining how to ask for peopleto support what you're doing. That's all you have to do istalk about it apparently, in the pew pew show. So how to ask isit's really incredibly important. Our ask for this showis pretty simple. Everybody can see the results right there atthe index, you can see the work that's being done. And theliquidity that's being provided. And we're very, very pleased,you know, the, the we're healthy, we're moving forwardbecause people are very consistent. So keep it goingkeep on boosting, keep on sending us Fiat fun coupons, wewould like to thank a couple people to get it started off.Little Stanley in our blood there. So I just want to add in there, whatvalid, what Adam is doing there is he's really highlightingfirst of all the value that he's providing. So obviously, they'reworking on all of these tags.
They're providing all of these,you know, the infrastructure with the podcast index. So thishas the ability to have your podcast, sort of unsensible inmany ways, if you get kicked off of Apple doesn't really matter.You're on the podcast index still. And this can get out toany of the apps which are ingesting all of the podcaststhat are in there. So he's really highlighting first ofall, the value that he's he's providing to you. So if you'relistening to the show, if you've been this is one hour and 25minutes into the show already. So if you're, if you're sort ofin doubt as to whether you like it or not, you wouldn't havegotten to this section of the show. And now it's like, okay,you were doing all of these things for you. This is how youcan help support us out. And we want to acknowledge the supportthat you've given us. So this is where he'll typically pass it onto Dave. And Dave will start reading out, like you mentionedsome of the pay pals that they receive, but also the boostagrams.
What's your cue Dave? Oh, I thought you said I wouldlike point oh, this is Carolyn 8888. I enjoy usingfountain question for Oscar will be the wave where there'll be away for podcasters to control their presence on fountain. So this is where Adams doingsome of the live boosting at the moment. And he's highlightingthe different sections, I suppose. Because now you canhave live boosts. So your your podcast is now almost talkinginto like a little bit of a talk show, perhaps maybe it's almostlike a YouTube stream. So it's getting all of these differentfacets of of maybe how you would use your podcast in in adifferent manner. So typically, most of us are accustomed tojust uploading an audio file.
But now it's like, oh, you knowwhat, you can actually improve your show, get those thatlistener feedback direct in the moment, which has its own valuein itself? Not quite sure what she means?What does that mean? Do you know Oscar? Yeah, I think it probably meansthis is something that we've heard a few times, which is, andthis is a cool bit where you can also get questions from youryour listeners. So not only is the the the feedback, you know,showing, it doesn't necessarily always have to be a message justsaying, Oh, I really love the show, et cetera, et cetera,which is always fantastic and gratifying to hear. But it canbecome content on the show itself. So this is where thelistener is not only or as, as Adam would say, the producer.This is where they are actually helping to produce the showbecause hey, look, here's this cool content that they'reputting in. I'm going to skip forward another little bit andsee if Dave is starting to read out some of the monthlysections, we get some loose rum. And you can tell meif I repeat a boost that was live last week? I think I don'tI think I've got the timing right.
Okay, this is actually theboostagram section, I've skipped the monthlies, just,okay. That gives the road ducks 2222through curio gastrin another cool that thing that Ilike that they do is they really, it's really interactive.So you know, Adam is fantastic at putting all these clips in ofthe duck boost. The numerology, which is another really fun areathat he particularly as has highlighted in another one ofhis shows that that sort of cropped up is that, you know, ifyou boost Tu, Tu, Tu, Tu or any number of two's all together,you know, this sort of looks like a duck. So here's a littlejingle that looks like a duck, if you boost 8008, you know,that's a boob boost. And maybe you can have a jingle for that.Or, you know, you can get really creative with the thenumerology. So it's almost like turning it into a game for youryour listeners as well. So if the if you potentially wantparticular section or a particular boost to becomepopular, maybe you can invest more effort into creating a, Idon't know, a ghost boost, or something like that, whichshould maybe be like, ooh, so a number with a bunch of zeros atthe end of it, that could be a ghost boost. And then you couldput a lot of effort into that.
I've noticed this myself, youknow, I will sometimes boost this particular show to two totwo because I just really liked that that sound, or I wouldboost it another certain section or in particular ask for ajingle saying like, can I get the mic drop, please, I reallyenjoy hearing that one. So those are just the general way thatthey do it. I'm also going to jump on to a quick section here,where Adam and Dave, talk about how the the essence of why youneed to, to include that feedback from your listener intothe show. So this is one of the critical parts, I suppose thevalue for value model, which you might not hear from from otherpeople, because you might just think, oh, I can just include away for people to pay me and you know, it'll magically happen,but that's not exactly how it works. So here's them discussingwhy you need to include that user feedback into it as well.
Would you say that that's whereit always falls down? Is it when it falls down? It always fallsdown right there where the where the podcaster does not read thefeedback back into the show. It's then it doesn't work. It's notjust falling down. It just it never lifts off. It's just a critical piece thatgets it is not there, it just doesn't function. I mean it. And if you don't doit, then it just dries up, it stops. And it really is key thatyou have that segment in there. Cool, cool, cool. Awesome. Sothat is basically how podcasting two point O goes about doingtheir value for value. And I also am going to have a littleunique section, I guess something unique, what do theydo that I haven't seen many others do, and maybe that youcould steal from, like I have from for the Miyamoto show. Sothere's two things that I think that they do, which might be, Isuppose different to what what the normal person would do.Number one is they have a amount set up so that if you cross acertain threshold, they will send you a t shirt. So onceagain, it's it's sort of value for value for value for value,like it goes on, it keeps on trading back and forth, it's notjust like it's a one off, I provide a new value, now youprovide it back, it can sort of turn into a continuous cycle. Sofor them, it used to be $100, or the the equivalent of $100 andSatoshis. Sending that through, believe it's now 125. And thiswas a pretty big motivator for me to be honest to to quicklyrack up a bunch of support for them, so that I could get on thelist to get a t shirt, which I ended up getting. And it'sfantastic. And I love it. So this is one of the cool thingswhere it's, you know, maybe you should think about ways of howyou can include more of a feedback loop. So not just thevalue that you're providing, within your show, maybe you canextend this out more into the real world. Or you could belike, you know, say you've got a tax accounting show or whatnot.If you get up to a certain level of support, I can provide youwith more tax accounting advice.
Now this is not particularly Isuppose the difference between this and maybe the the gatedpaywall option I, you'll get bonus content, if you go to myPatreon and you'll unlock the sort of hidden thing there. It'smore of a voluntary one. So it's it's somewhat, it's not itdoesn't have that gatekeeper feel to it. Because it's more,you know, if if you get up to this level, we'll sort of do it.But it's not like, if you want this thing, you'd have to dothis, you know, if if you were desperately broke, but you'veloved everything that they're doing, and you're trying toprovide value back to them, and you sent them a message saying,hey, like I really want to support like, I'm doingeverything I can, but I just don't have the money, they wouldprobably send you a shirt if that's what you really wanted.And in return for the value that you're providing by maybeproselytizing, the show on social media, or, you know,there are many different ways that you can provide value,time, talent and treasure.
There's if you go back into theethics and season one, you'll you'll see that term cropping upa lot. Another one, which I think is kind of unique. And I'mnot sure exactly how much this plays into the whole value forvalue model, but it's something that they do is David doesn'tlook at the booster ground beforehand. So he willintentionally not read them until the show comes so he cansort of have a genuine reaction whilst doing that. Now mepersonally, I tend to look at them beforehand. I don'tparticularly have any qualms or issues with that. But maybethat's a thing that you could implement into your own show andbe like, You know what, I would prefer not to have the that, Isuppose essence of surprise, I would start I would prefer to besurprised. So there's cool things going on. I want to checkit out. Oh, well, that's a really random comment. I didn'texpect that it's gonna make me think a bit and I can respond onthe on the spot. So those are a couple of the little uniquethings there. Now I'm going to go into my own section and showokay, this is not only is this a value for value, the value forvalue podcast, but how do I run value for value in here and mineis similar to Adam and Dave, but you know, I've got I've got myown little way of doing it. So welcome everyone to the boosterGraham lounge.
Welcome to the value for valuewas to Graham. Oh yeah, that's sensual.Welcome, everyone. So today, we've got two booster gramscoming in. So I do want to thank both of these listeners fortheir support. And we'll start off with Peter who sent through1234 sets. So Peter is actually very well known on the MereMortals podcast because he's a very big supporter over there.He says Welcome back. I listened to several shows that use valuefor that. Are you in their own way? If you're looking for moreexamples, I will definitely hit Peter up for that. And he sentthat through in Fountain I believe. And so, yes, you know,another perfect example there a value for value I, well, I'm noteither shortage of shows that I could use for value for value.There's now 5000, something 5000 Plus shows which which do it soI'm not at a shortage, but definitely finding ones thatmaybe do things in their own way and slightly unique manner,which I can highlight on here.
Definitely I'll, I'm interestedin those sorts of things. So yes, thank you, Peter. And Iwill I will take you up on that offer. The other one is frommetus. So this is metus. From Fun Fact, Friday, with, which hedoes with his daughter, Leila. And so Mita says, great idea fora show we tell our listeners about visa vie almost everyepisode on Fun Fact, Friday with Lila and David. There's the fullshow name, sometime. Quick, sometimes in depth. Sometimesquick, sometimes in depth, I'm looking for a solution to get myvoice actors Wallet. So I can give them splits on my audiofiction show me this pod. So there you go. Meet us has acouple of different shows. He's also highlighting how you canalso have splits included.
That's one of the things I'mplanning on doing. But I'll talk more about that in the upcomingformat section. And, and because he sent this in, you know what,I'm going to cover him for the next episode. So the nextepisode of of this, we'll be highlighting how he does it onFun Fact Friday, which I actually believe is celebratingits 100th episode coming up pretty soon. So that'll be afun, cool thing. And as I just mentioned, the format section.So this is not going to be a regular part of this. But just acouple of notes and thoughts of highlighting or continuing onfrom what I was saying in Episode 18, or 1990, which washow I was going to structure these shows and how I was goingto run it. So I think I'll continue the format similar towhat I've done today, which would be a quick little intro, ashow description. So I this is what podcasting 2.0 is, and thisis what they do, how they do the value for value implementation.And this is where I'll play some clips, play some things that Ithink they're doing maybe in a in a that is the core of howthey ask for value for value. So this would maybe be likeexamining the language that they're using, whether it's, youknow, the different psychological tricks that youcould use the different ways of creating engagement, making itmore fun things like that. And then I'll go into somethingunique section, which I think would be okay, this is what Ithink they really doing a spin that they've got, which maybeother people don't, and maybe something that that you can do.So I think I'll bundle all of that into one show. And then Imight even do another show, I'm noticing that people seem to beinterested in this idea of of examining others and seeing howthey're doing it. So I'm still at a crossroads here to see howmuch time I've got to really invest in this. But I do want tomake at least a solid effort of it. And like I mentioned, thisis a test a podcast for me in a way as well. So I'm sort ofthinking that'll be a pre recorded one. And then maybe Ican do a live one, which is where I'll go over the latestsort of podcasting news. Maybe even the latest value for valuenews, how different payment methods are being set up why youmight want to focus more on boostagrams, say, for example,rather than PayPal, or through Patreon or things like that. Andthis is maybe where I'd also do my boostagram section. Butthat's probably going to be a little bit in the works becauseI've got a lot to figure out to how to do these podcasts livebecause I'm not a super tech nerd. I am just not gonna say a joke, butI'm not a joke either. So I don't know what I am. But in anycase, that that's the general setup that I'm going to berunning and thank you for reaching the end of thisepisode. Once again. I said I'd try and keep these short andsharp but I have a feeling they're gonna go long anyway sowhatever this is going to probably be about the normalepisode length probably the 15 to 20 minute ish minutes ish andyeah, I hope you've gotten some some good ideas once again, Iwould encourage you to if you've found any good ideas from heresend me a thanks by sending me through a boostagram and Iwill of course read it out and if you want your showhighlighted as well and and maybe a little shout out maybewhat you think you know asked me to To see what you're doing andmaybe even give some advice on maybe how you could improve it,et cetera, et cetera I'll the following previous week I'll golisten to your show for a bit and an examine that andhighlighted add on here. So thanks everyone for joining andI hope you're having a fantastic day wherever you are in theworld, Kyrin out.
