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In Ep #28 I am covering how Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak utilise v4v on their show No Agenda. The unique aspect that they bring is that they bloody invented the model! So basically you should follow the Podfather when he suggests that completing the feedback loop is a good idea or finding a way to remind your audience to donate before the next episode is released.
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In the morning, we're going back to where visa vie first started. Welcome everyone to another episode of the value for value podcast. My name is Kyrin host of the mere mortals and Mere Mortals book reviews. And this is the podcast where we examine how other people are implementing the v4v model in their own podcast, what they're doing unique, maybe some ideas that you can take out to implement into your own show. And getting into a little bit of the philosophy and just how people run this in general. Now, today, we can't have a better example than where visa vie first originated. So this is from the no agenda show with Adam curry and John C. Dvorak. Adam curry is a name that you will recognize by now cuz I talk about him a lot. The no agenda show Wikipedia tells me debuted in October 2007. And basically, John and Adam deconstruct the mainstream media and add in their own special blend of I suppose commentary, political commentary is usually how it gets back and they're really trying to find out what's being what's going on beneath the surface. So they're sort of truth seekers in many a way. I'll go into their little mission statement here and it says the no agenda is a podcasting LLC whose goal is to deconstruct the news media to reveal slanted stories and the reasoning for slanted or misleading reporting. The purpose is not to discredit or critique or discredit news reports, but through media deconstruction, to find the actual underlying story to give the audience a realistic understanding of current affairs and events and provide a normalized objective understanding of them. Now this goes on and on and on. They've got a huge about page and as rightly, they should because no agenda is actually quite a big show. Now they do two shows per week, usually thursday and sunday at 9am pacific time and they do this live so this is actually one of the reasons why the live item tag is somewhat being implemented is because Adam does it live himself a couple of titles from their latest episodes and boy are they up to some big numbers 1466 is the latest episode Bo Jo, no mu C theist bomb Rotterdam future framework happened her imbibe box wet ball without primetime purge, magnetar, there's a lot of different titles that they come up with. For their shows. They're pretty consistently around the three hour mark from what I've noticed. Now, I'll admit I don't particularly tune in, just because I really hate news in all forms and politics. So the actual show material doesn't particularly interest me. But I do love what they actually do on the show value for value wise. So I'm just going to play a little snippet here from one of the latest episode actually, this so this is 1466 by Joe no more, right after their underlying jingle, their starter show music and whatnot, just so you can get a taste of what John and Adam sound like.
This is so what a great time to be alive and be a podcaster. How many years have we've been discussing the Georgia Guidestones that forever? Since since day one, and I love this love, you know, Tina's like, Hey, did you hear? Do you know about these Georgia Guidestones. It's this weird time loop we get caught in all the time with the show, where we've been around long enough to have heard it all seeing it all pretty much everything. My favorite line is it's America's Stonehenge put up by Druids. So they've got a fair few interactions between the two of them. They don't actually don't record at the same place. They are in different places in America. So there's this, I suppose, like online interaction. And Adam is very keen himself into using only audio. He's a radio guy at heart. And so a lot of the show really implements things from radio such as jingles. They use a lot of clips taken from other new shows, play them on and then and then deconstruct that, obviously. So there's a lot of things going on. In this show. I actually had Adam on my Mere Mortals podcast, Geez, how long, probably more than six months, six months to a year ago. And he told me he has actually never missed a show. So even though they do take holidays and things like this, they will always pre record some stuff. And so they've been pretty damn consistent for geez, a decade and a half. Wow. So their value Furman value implementation, they do a lot of things and I can even see just going into the feed here. They've got stuff like the podcast lock tag, the funding tag, the live item tag, the value tag, obviously, the GUID tag, there's, you know, Chapter images, all sorts of different things in here. So not only does Adam you know create this Didn't podcast in 2.0, all of the ways that value for value is helping spread, I guess, and all the cool new features, but he implements them on his own shows. And so what does he actually do in his own shows?
How does he really implement the value for value model? Well, they do it in a lot of ways. Because, as I mentioned, they somewhat invented at least the form that I know of value for value. So it's a progressive, I suppose, journey. And if you were to go, you know, right from episode one, it would be different from how they do it in Episode 100 300 800. And now, obviously, up into the 1400s. But what they do at the moment is they really have two main sections. And this is because it's wildly popular show, you know, procs numbers is a million million and a half people listening in per episode. And they get a lot of support because of this. So they do two main sections, the first one usually occurs about midway through the show, so an hour and a half in is roughly from what I can tell where they'll, they'll do their first donation segment.
And this is where they will have people who have submitted or who have contributed, I suppose a large amount more than perhaps the, I don't know standard, if you want to call it that way, or more than just a certain amount. And this is because they just have so many people donating in. So this is for the executive producers, and they they donate over $333 They'll receive credits, and they'll also get a note that they've put in read out on the show. Anyone that donates 200, or more will automatically receive an associate exec executive producer title for that show as well. A couple of the rules they have in mind is donations of 50 or less are considered anonymous. If you want your donation to be announced with your title, you must include your title in each donation note, if you're if you want your note to be read on the show, you must donate at least 200 There are simply too many notes for every one of them to be read on the show. That is a nice problem to have that much feedback, I suppose. And so that's the first donation segment. And then they have a second one, which is reading out the names of people who have donated $50 or more people can submit a note as well, but there's no guarantee that it'll be read out from what I can tell. So this is just a small section here from Episode 1464. Bomb Rotterdam at around the two hour 30 Mark. And yeah, I'll just play this here.
I'm going to show my mood by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun though we do have a few people to thank for show 1464 Indeed. And we're starting with Pieter de Jiang. And he's it gives $151.33 And he is actually from spasm. Yay for spasm. He's in spasm BC. Did we spend a while he says he goes on about it? Did we did we miss candidate? Oh, I put it in the newsletter that candidate days tomorrow. Oh, okay. So he's saying Happy Canada Day in advance. Okay, good. Yeah, freak me out first, and there was a dis special Candidate A donation you could do if you're Canadian, I do expect all Canadian listeners to do something. But if you did it, and then I have to say, hey, hey, Peter.
Yeah, so they read out the notes from the show, they typically add in some extra commentary, some different things and whatnot. And this is, I suppose, their way of really highlighting hate thanks to everyone who support the support of the show, we're going to read out your notes. And they Adam really emphasizes just how critical it is for not only the acknowledgment of receiving the notes, so this is people knowing that their money is I guess, just not going into the ether that it is actually being appreciated. And this is a way of showing it. But they use it as content for their show, which when you're doing a three hour podcast twice a week, you do actually want to have a lot of content being able to to talk about and to use. So that's I suppose how they, they do it in the show. There's additional elements, but honestly, there's so much going on here that it's really hard to, I suppose fit everything in so some other ways in their show that they use the value for value model is their splits. So I can see here when I go to look at how they have their splits set up they have the value for value. So this is the large portion of it probably 60 ish percent, maybe 7080. From what I can tell just by the rough sliding bar, which goes to directly to them. They've got a A huge section for the clip custodian. So this is a person who adds in a lot of clips sends it to their, their show for them to be able to use in the show. So obviously this person who listens to a lot of news media and spends the time clipping out important parts that he finds useful and would add them and de Adam and and John really appreciate. There's the booster gram V for V monitor, which is not actually sure what that one is. But it's used use for booster grams, obviously, and and probably is more related to the tech behind this stuff. Dred Scott, who is the chapter architect, so he's the one that goes and creates chapters for all of these episodes, and adds in images and things like that. And then also for sovereign feeds. So this is Steven B, with curio caster, who's created a way to add in tags, customizable tags for your feed. So not only do they get these sort of larger donations, which they do primarily through PayPal, but if you are using value for value with the Lightning Network, you can have a bit more because Bitcoin is is a programmable programmable money, you can actually send it and to different places directly within the actual Lightning Network itself, which is very, very cool. So that's in their show, outside of their show, they have an emailing list, there's also a place to to actually send physical locations, sent to a physical location goods, so jam and add no meats, and they get all sorts of stuff. I've heard it every now and then some of the things that they get sent, which is pretty wild, physical money as well, there's, yeah, there's all sorts of things that that goes on there. So that's, I suppose the main way that they do value for value implementing it, I suppose within that show and outside of their show, there's something unique Well, there's, there's a couple of two things I really want to highlight. Once again, this is where value for value originated. So if you really want the full dose, like you just have to go and listen to a bunch of their shows because there's so many things that you'll pick up on and I really don't have time to go over every single thing that that they do and that I I know I myself am missing a bunch of things, but he's two which I really think is just completely unique to them and I find super amazing. So the first is the knighting ceremony so I'm going to play a clip in a second from this is from Episode 1430 to dry holes. And this is the I suppose celebration of someone who has reached one of their targets for peerage, so peerages, various titles are bestowed upon producers that donate a certain amount to the show. So if you reach 333 and 33 cents you become a grand the grant gentleman or Lady of the manor 1000 is knighthood and Dame hood. Then it goes up 2000 3000 5000 7000 10,000 20,000 33,002 All of these different baronet's Viscounts Duke Duchess Grand Duke Duchess is the highest and so there's they've got this sort of gamification of like can you reach the next level can you level up sort of thing and this is how they celebrate someone who has reached these one of these levels.
Brittany, Baxter, Christian, Matt waltz and Andrew Marcus all of you hop up on stage here you are now all about to become a royalty kind of like this year knights and dame of the no agenda roundtable. You've seen everybody else you're all ready to go I'm proud to pronounce the k d as dame of the amaze balls. Sir grumpy Dane protector of the happy medicated Danes, sir waltz of Tempe and surrounded by my privilege for you. We've got hookers and blow rent boys and Chardonnay, a nice bottle of crude a freaking demo and a nice Chateau le feats. We also have geishas and sakeI Rubenesque woman and Rosie de Vaca, Manila bong hits and bourbon sparkling cider and escorts ginger ale and durables. I get it you want the mutton and meat of course, crew really can't match up against some good meat most of the time.
Thank you all very much for supporting the show in the amount of $1,000. And very proud to have you here at the round table and make sure you go to no agenda nation.com/rings they can fill out to all the details so we can get you your signet ring with the sealing wax that goes along with and of course your official certificate of authenticity. Yeah. Oh, wow. So Adam is a like I mentioned like an old old school DJ. And so he is all on top of the jingles on top of the mash ups on top of the extravagance, I guess of things that you can do audio wise And then they they back this up with, you know, some a token of physical appreciation as well.
Something unique a ring, a signet ring with a wax and a certificate showing that you've reached this level as well. So in terms of uniqueness that is pretty up the the levels that they've got to this game. Apparently all of this originated pretty organically as well. It's not like they just randomly started a show. And they're like, Yeah, you know, what, if someone donates 30,000 bucks, I'll do something for them? No, no. So this is a a continual process that's changed over time, obviously, over a decade and a half. And they've they've continually added levels continually with the the show of the support, changed it and maximum mixed and matched it to what they, I suppose foresee is a suitable recompense for other people providing value. So it's sort of like, trading value for value as well. It's not like, you know, they create an amazing show, they put in a ton of effort with all of the, you just heard a tiny portion of the effort that goes into creating something that is truly unique. Other people donate value, but then they give the value back. And it's sort of like this trading and swapping value, where it's, it's just a continual process. It's not like it's a one and done thing. It's like, oh, when this goes on, it doesn't stop, it doesn't stop.
So that is one thing that they do, which I think is completely unique. Another one, I suppose is just their encouragement of other people. So it's just the two of them. They are the only ones who create the show in terms of actually speaking on it and whatnot. But there's a whole crew and cast of people. And I literally mean crew and costs because I call everyone producers. So they this is taken from I believe, like the movie business industry, perhaps even like the radio one where everyone who contributes to the show gets gets some credits, they get some appreciation. And now usually this is just like names on a scrolling screen or something like that. But you could maybe put it in your IMBD I think that's how it's called profile, which is what actors and casting agencies use, I guess to, to check out someone's credits over the years, what they've appeared and, and things like that. And then there's just all the other stuff. So the producer support a couple of things I've written down here, things like the website, this isn't something that Adam and Adam and John use they, other people do, this is the no agenda shop. So there's people who create actual physical items from the show, with shirts and mugs and things like that. And they they get a split of that, I suppose. So they just let you know, their intellectual property, I suppose be used however they want. And then it's sort of just an honor system. People who create the shop, send them some money every now and then there's the troll room. So this is people who want to listen, live and be able to interact with each other in a in a chat style room. They have that physical meetups. I've been to one here in Brisbane once before, but this is just organically supported. This is people when you go into I think it's no agenda meetups.com You can find out are there other people in my local area who, who also listen to the show. And so then I can connect with some people who, you know, appreciate the show as well and get to make some new friends have a common interest and things like that.
boots on the ground. So this is people who might have a particular talent or who are particularly located and then unique situation. So pilots, for example, or people in the medical profession, who can send in notes or commentary on what's going on in their country or in their profession, or an insight that they might have that is particularly useful to the topic of COVID or in politics or whatever the hell it is war that's going on in Ukraine, all those sorts of things, and even cover art. So every single episode has a different cover art. And this is created by artists who submitted in and then Adam and John choose one in particular, and they say yep, there's the one that's going to be used for episode 1454. And that's, you know, plastered everywhere that person gets a credit as well. So the, I suppose the encouragement of, of other people to do work for them in some way. So this is a time talent and treasure. So this is getting into the time and talent section where it's you know, artists. I'm pretty sure that Adam and John aren't amazing at Photoshop, but other people who listen to the show and so they encourage Adjust them and have ways for people, I suppose it's more on their part is the is the ability, the allowance of other people to contribute, and in many ways and, and to, to really make that as accessible as possible. So, if you want, if you're an artist and you want to contribute, they make it as accessible as possible. So they really go out of their way and in many respects, to let other people help them, which is kind of funny in a way you think, Oh, why isn't everyone do that? But when you get down to it, that's pretty damn hard. And you need a lot of time contemplating and seeing, okay, is this worth my effort to set up had a website where people can submit art in a real relatively easy fashion, which can then be used for my show? Is it worth my time setting up that show on that website and whatnot, so they've obviously put a lot of effort into facilitating the process as well. So very, very cool. The no agenda show, I highly recommend that you check it out. If you you know, like I said, you don't have to particularly enjoy the show. I wouldn't say it's something I tune into very often, just because I don't particularly care about news and politics, but I really do appreciate everything that they're doing. Because I it's yeah, it's pretty damn cool. So with all that being said, I'm gonna go on to my own booster Graham Lounge, which you might notice actually has the voice of Adam curry appearing on it. So here we go the histogram lounge.
Welcome to the value for value, gram. Okay, so I did something pretty cool last week, which was I actually promoted the show on fountain FM. And so I've been overwhelmed with different booths coming in. So I'm actually gonna do a little bit of speed reading some of these but I'll particularly pick out the two who sent in some really big amounts and thank them properly before going into the more speed reading section. So coming at the top is Who other than p da P E T AR the slab, who sends in 93,750 SATs. Whoa, thank you very much, Peter. And this is for the last episode.
And he says listening to the mere mortals podcast is like sitting on a patio while having a beer with your thoughtful kind and very fit friend. chatting about something both meaningless yet very important. The mere mortals podcast has the Peter pod fluence our gold stamp of approval. Thumbs up. Thank you very much, Peter, you're very, very kind. This is the Peter who you might I'm not even sure if that was the same Peter, who just got a call out on one of the clips that I played. I don't think so. Because I don't think he lives in BC. But very, he's everywhere. I know he's on no agenda as well. I'm pretty sure he's a Knight of the table. So he's submitted. He's sent in a lot of value to no agenda. So very cool. Peter, thank you very much, my friend. I believe that was sent using fountain as well.
Here's the other second big one. And this was from Mary Oscar, also known as Oscar Mary, who is the creator of the fountain app if you want to know more about him. I did two episodes with him on the minimalist podcast and he says another great episode. Are you going to look at no agenda for an upcoming episode? Well Ahead of you Oscar, there you go. I hope you enjoyed this one. And then like I said, Because I promoted on fountain they've got a lot of exposure and obviously a lot of exposure and an app where people are booster grabbing or somehow know how to do this you're gonna get a lot of people doing that so I'm just going to speed read these and thank all of you but they're not in any particular order other than the order that they got submitted and so all of these just for the interest sake is coming from fountain and if it's not from fountain or particularly call it out, but we have one from knowledge power free and he says love the long term histogram 65 sets. We have one from evil flow and he just has the rock emoji with a guy with sunglasses emoji. Got one from that was 20 SATs 19 SATs from zip Zeplin booster 47 SATs from a master good sir. Three sets from user three territories of the above ah, and he just says one guy Thank you got five sets from Marco Werner. He says value for value I think will also increase entertainment level. Yes, I agree. Thank you. Nine sets from cara cara be Busuu thanks guys. Good content. Hey, my pleasure mate. Nine sites from Prince 004 Love your podcast. Thank you very much my friend prints 20 SATs from user to six to nine eight do BTC is the signal. I'm getting you signal loud and clear my friend.
Fives That's from Zevia. See, welcome to value for value a welcome to you as well. Five sites from Ernesto Fabien 2233. And he says greeting friends. Hey, greetings to you. Ernesto, five sets from user five to seven. I'm loving it. Nine sets from Chi to three. And he says absolutely right or she can't tell. Absolutely right we are early to this market. There's so much potential in the crypto Bitcoin in particular world just wait until this model is applied to social media and platforms like YouTube. Yes, my friend. I'm super excited for the next 510 years in terms of what's going on with the integration of, of crypto currency. And I'm very particular with this with Bitcoin in into the world of all of these different areas and just being able to signal things correctly. And you know, have the reduction of spam because it actually costs something even if it's only nine sets. I know this nine sets is not from a bot because they just can't have the ability to send bulk stuff like this because they'll run out of money pretty quick. And yeah, so I'm very, very I'm 100% on board with you. I'm so excited. Got 90 insights from data as Carlos and he says Honey I'll Mahoto meaning less me and press a scripture personas cunning, less not EVO Igano en el camino and so in English. That means awesome. I'm improving my English while listening to people or persons whose native and native language is English A Gano con el camino and I think that means like I'm improving with the with the journey. Not particularly, that's definitely a saying in Spanish otherwise, because the literal translation is gaining in the road, which doesn't make too much sense. We have one here. 19 SATs from user 5431 for Florida. It is good to listen to this podcast. I agree. I agree. It is good to listen to it. Three sets from dancey. dancey great. I like it 20 sets from the dude good stuff. Exclamation mark three sets from Felice good podcast 47 starts from l 113. Hi, this is my first podcast. I listened here. Thank you for the info regard from Mako. Hey, thank you very much l 100. much appreciate it. I do love having a bit of an international audience. And for those who are just really gone far out of the way, I did have a book reviews channel called Rosetta's in Spanglish, where I would do book reviews of the same same same books that you can find on the Mere Mortals book reviews. But speaking in Spanish, which was to improve my Spanish but also create something I suppose something a little bit different for, for those who are out there. Three sets from Daniel M. 092.
Excellent podcast 90 Insights from the Master Karen. Thank you. Question about five sites from Bitcoin plebs. 21 mil. And he just says fire 75 sets from tip, tip and on for Oui Saxon. Gotta collect them all. Yes, nice. Three sets from Musa Ada, sevens are Gracias, dinero. So that's Thank you money. We've got 94 sets from fifth power productions, and there's a bigger message. excellent discussion on value for value. Thanks for your dedication to bringing value to the space. I appreciate your chapter markers and your diligent efforts to making meaningful connections with your listeners and supporters. It's a little attention to details that make all the difference in user experience, kudos and more booster come in the future. Then with the flexed arm bicep emoji and the clap emoji, hey, thank you very much for the power. I do put in a lot of effort into particularly chapter markers and images. Not as much on this show because it is a little bit shorter. And so I feel like not as necessary. But for the longer episodes that I do on the Mere Mortals show, for example, I really do put in as much effort as I can, including links and things like that as well. So I do enjoy doing those. Those little touches, and I do also think it makes a difference in the end. But yeah, in any case, I enjoy doing it. Five sets from a nesto Fabien 2233 Thumbs up three sets from Musa to a five and they say hi three sets from Vanessa am Allah three sets from at JD 39 Great three sets from user one through four. And then two of the I can only imagine as like the white power and symbol now which people fucking that's so hilarious, but it's the three three fingers so the pinky the middle and the ring finger up and then forming a circle with your pointer and your thumb. So that okay, I guess symbol in Diamond terms. Five sets from Steven Steve the zebra and he says set test it Your test came through May 8 19 SATs from user for a Baba Baba, Windows Diaz, Windows dstu. And then nine sets from user 204 to deter the nice.
So, okay, very encouraging, I do love this the support back in all of the messages, as you can see from there, it's it's not only about the volume of messages but the getting as high quality as well. So I love the the longer ones, you know, even though so many of these were two sets, three sets, 20 sets, you know, that's not going to make a difference to my life at all, you know, the bigger ones like Oscars and P stars, you know, I can see a difference with those. And I really appreciate those ones. But like you see, with the no agenda show, once you get to a certain level, if you've got a million people listening in, and let's say even only a 10th, not not in the 10th only 1000. So 110 1000 Send in, that is still an unbearably huge amount of messages. And so you do have to raise caps for it. So although I enjoyed doing that, you know, in the future, I would maybe skip out the ones just saying test and you know, great Allah, things like that. Just provide I suppose more value in the in the in the section. But also, you know, appreciate I do appreciate all of all of these minor ones, it's, it's a new experience for me for having too much, too many too many messages to go on for it to be a smooth, shorter show. So I really do appreciate that.
My last little section here of value for values, what can you do to support? Well, one, I would just say, value for value, something new that you can do is check out the no agenda show. Obviously, I covered it in great detail. Adam is an amazing person. The whole reason I'm I'm here doing this podcast, the value for value, I literally took it from him, because his dedication, his creation of this model has just inspired me like this is this is how I want to run my life. In essence, this is like a lifestyle change for me. I don't ever want to and you will never see me doing anything advertising related. You know, if I can't make it as a podcaster using value for value, I don't want to make it as a podcaster. Like, that's, that's, that's essentially the ultimatum I've created for myself. So check out the no agenda show and you'll get to see just how awesome Adam is and but also, if you're a podcaster and you're interested in how you can create some ideas for your own podcast, some things to take out of, there's a goldmine a and you'll have to go digging for it because it's a huge amount of shows and a huge amount of things are on there. But there is a goldmine of of ideas to take away from them. So that is it for today. Huge episode. Thank you everyone. The I don't know how many people that was 20 plus people who supported very much appreciated a special shout out to Oscar Mary who created the fountain FM mat and then of course Peter the persistent, the perennial, the slab the pod floor answer. Very much appreciate it for those two for the big booths as well. Everyone else I hope you're having a fantastic morning wherever you are in the world in the morning, Kyrin out
In the morning, we're going back to where visa vie first started. Welcome everyone to another episode of the value for value podcast. My name is Kyrin host of the mere mortals and Mere Mortals book reviews. And this is the podcast where we examine how other people are implementing the v4v model in their own podcast, what they're doing unique, maybe some ideas that you can take out to implement into your own show. And getting into a little bit of the philosophy and just how people run this in general. Now, today, we can't have a better example than where visa vie first originated. So this is from the no agenda show with Adam curry and John C. Dvorak. Adam curry is a name that you will recognize by now cuz I talk about him a lot. The no agenda show Wikipedia tells me debuted in October 2007. And basically, John and Adam deconstruct the mainstream media and add in their own special blend of I suppose commentary, political commentary is usually how it gets back and they're really trying to find out what's being what's going on beneath the surface. So they're sort of truth seekers in many a way. I'll go into their little mission statement here and it says the no agenda is a podcasting LLC whose goal is to deconstruct the news media to reveal slanted stories and the reasoning for slanted or misleading reporting. The purpose is not to discredit or critique or discredit news reports, but through media deconstruction, to find the actual underlying story to give the audience a realistic understanding of current affairs and events and provide a normalized objective understanding of them. Now this goes on and on and on. They've got a huge about page and as rightly, they should because no agenda is actually quite a big show. Now they do two shows per week, usually thursday and sunday at 9am pacific time and they do this live so this is actually one of the reasons why the live item tag is somewhat being implemented is because Adam does it live himself a couple of titles from their latest episodes and boy are they up to some big numbers 1466 is the latest episode Bo Jo, no mu C theist bomb Rotterdam future framework happened her imbibe box wet ball without primetime purge, magnetar, there's a lot of different titles that they come up with. For their shows. They're pretty consistently around the three hour mark from what I've noticed. Now, I'll admit I don't particularly tune in, just because I really hate news in all forms and politics. So the actual show material doesn't particularly interest me. But I do love what they actually do on the show value for value wise. So I'm just going to play a little snippet here from one of the latest episode actually, this so this is 1466 by Joe no more, right after their underlying jingle, their starter show music and whatnot, just so you can get a taste of what John and Adam sound like.
This is so what a great time to be alive and be a podcaster. How many years have we've been discussing the Georgia Guidestones that forever? Since since day one, and I love this love, you know, Tina's like, Hey, did you hear? Do you know about these Georgia Guidestones. It's this weird time loop we get caught in all the time with the show, where we've been around long enough to have heard it all seeing it all pretty much everything. My favorite line is it's America's Stonehenge put up by Druids. So they've got a fair few interactions between the two of them. They don't actually don't record at the same place. They are in different places in America. So there's this, I suppose, like online interaction. And Adam is very keen himself into using only audio. He's a radio guy at heart. And so a lot of the show really implements things from radio such as jingles. They use a lot of clips taken from other new shows, play them on and then and then deconstruct that, obviously. So there's a lot of things going on. In this show. I actually had Adam on my Mere Mortals podcast, Geez, how long, probably more than six months, six months to a year ago. And he told me he has actually never missed a show. So even though they do take holidays and things like this, they will always pre record some stuff. And so they've been pretty damn consistent for geez, a decade and a half. Wow. So their value Furman value implementation, they do a lot of things and I can even see just going into the feed here. They've got stuff like the podcast lock tag, the funding tag, the live item tag, the value tag, obviously, the GUID tag, there's, you know, Chapter images, all sorts of different things in here. So not only does Adam you know create this Didn't podcast in 2.0, all of the ways that value for value is helping spread, I guess, and all the cool new features, but he implements them on his own shows. And so what does he actually do in his own shows?
How does he really implement the value for value model? Well, they do it in a lot of ways. Because, as I mentioned, they somewhat invented at least the form that I know of value for value. So it's a progressive, I suppose, journey. And if you were to go, you know, right from episode one, it would be different from how they do it in Episode 100 300 800. And now, obviously, up into the 1400s. But what they do at the moment is they really have two main sections. And this is because it's wildly popular show, you know, procs numbers is a million million and a half people listening in per episode. And they get a lot of support because of this. So they do two main sections, the first one usually occurs about midway through the show, so an hour and a half in is roughly from what I can tell where they'll, they'll do their first donation segment.
And this is where they will have people who have submitted or who have contributed, I suppose a large amount more than perhaps the, I don't know standard, if you want to call it that way, or more than just a certain amount. And this is because they just have so many people donating in. So this is for the executive producers, and they they donate over $333 They'll receive credits, and they'll also get a note that they've put in read out on the show. Anyone that donates 200, or more will automatically receive an associate exec executive producer title for that show as well. A couple of the rules they have in mind is donations of 50 or less are considered anonymous. If you want your donation to be announced with your title, you must include your title in each donation note, if you're if you want your note to be read on the show, you must donate at least 200 There are simply too many notes for every one of them to be read on the show. That is a nice problem to have that much feedback, I suppose. And so that's the first donation segment. And then they have a second one, which is reading out the names of people who have donated $50 or more people can submit a note as well, but there's no guarantee that it'll be read out from what I can tell. So this is just a small section here from Episode 1464. Bomb Rotterdam at around the two hour 30 Mark. And yeah, I'll just play this here.
I'm going to show my mood by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun though we do have a few people to thank for show 1464 Indeed. And we're starting with Pieter de Jiang. And he's it gives $151.33 And he is actually from spasm. Yay for spasm. He's in spasm BC. Did we spend a while he says he goes on about it? Did we did we miss candidate? Oh, I put it in the newsletter that candidate days tomorrow. Oh, okay. So he's saying Happy Canada Day in advance. Okay, good. Yeah, freak me out first, and there was a dis special Candidate A donation you could do if you're Canadian, I do expect all Canadian listeners to do something. But if you did it, and then I have to say, hey, hey, Peter.
Yeah, so they read out the notes from the show, they typically add in some extra commentary, some different things and whatnot. And this is, I suppose, their way of really highlighting hate thanks to everyone who support the support of the show, we're going to read out your notes. And they Adam really emphasizes just how critical it is for not only the acknowledgment of receiving the notes, so this is people knowing that their money is I guess, just not going into the ether that it is actually being appreciated. And this is a way of showing it. But they use it as content for their show, which when you're doing a three hour podcast twice a week, you do actually want to have a lot of content being able to to talk about and to use. So that's I suppose how they, they do it in the show. There's additional elements, but honestly, there's so much going on here that it's really hard to, I suppose fit everything in so some other ways in their show that they use the value for value model is their splits. So I can see here when I go to look at how they have their splits set up they have the value for value. So this is the large portion of it probably 60 ish percent, maybe 7080. From what I can tell just by the rough sliding bar, which goes to directly to them. They've got a A huge section for the clip custodian. So this is a person who adds in a lot of clips sends it to their, their show for them to be able to use in the show. So obviously this person who listens to a lot of news media and spends the time clipping out important parts that he finds useful and would add them and de Adam and and John really appreciate. There's the booster gram V for V monitor, which is not actually sure what that one is. But it's used use for booster grams, obviously, and and probably is more related to the tech behind this stuff. Dred Scott, who is the chapter architect, so he's the one that goes and creates chapters for all of these episodes, and adds in images and things like that. And then also for sovereign feeds. So this is Steven B, with curio caster, who's created a way to add in tags, customizable tags for your feed. So not only do they get these sort of larger donations, which they do primarily through PayPal, but if you are using value for value with the Lightning Network, you can have a bit more because Bitcoin is is a programmable programmable money, you can actually send it and to different places directly within the actual Lightning Network itself, which is very, very cool. So that's in their show, outside of their show, they have an emailing list, there's also a place to to actually send physical locations, sent to a physical location goods, so jam and add no meats, and they get all sorts of stuff. I've heard it every now and then some of the things that they get sent, which is pretty wild, physical money as well, there's, yeah, there's all sorts of things that that goes on there. So that's, I suppose the main way that they do value for value implementing it, I suppose within that show and outside of their show, there's something unique Well, there's, there's a couple of two things I really want to highlight. Once again, this is where value for value originated. So if you really want the full dose, like you just have to go and listen to a bunch of their shows because there's so many things that you'll pick up on and I really don't have time to go over every single thing that that they do and that I I know I myself am missing a bunch of things, but he's two which I really think is just completely unique to them and I find super amazing. So the first is the knighting ceremony so I'm going to play a clip in a second from this is from Episode 1430 to dry holes. And this is the I suppose celebration of someone who has reached one of their targets for peerage, so peerages, various titles are bestowed upon producers that donate a certain amount to the show. So if you reach 333 and 33 cents you become a grand the grant gentleman or Lady of the manor 1000 is knighthood and Dame hood. Then it goes up 2000 3000 5000 7000 10,000 20,000 33,002 All of these different baronet's Viscounts Duke Duchess Grand Duke Duchess is the highest and so there's they've got this sort of gamification of like can you reach the next level can you level up sort of thing and this is how they celebrate someone who has reached these one of these levels.
Brittany, Baxter, Christian, Matt waltz and Andrew Marcus all of you hop up on stage here you are now all about to become a royalty kind of like this year knights and dame of the no agenda roundtable. You've seen everybody else you're all ready to go I'm proud to pronounce the k d as dame of the amaze balls. Sir grumpy Dane protector of the happy medicated Danes, sir waltz of Tempe and surrounded by my privilege for you. We've got hookers and blow rent boys and Chardonnay, a nice bottle of crude a freaking demo and a nice Chateau le feats. We also have geishas and sakeI Rubenesque woman and Rosie de Vaca, Manila bong hits and bourbon sparkling cider and escorts ginger ale and durables. I get it you want the mutton and meat of course, crew really can't match up against some good meat most of the time.
Thank you all very much for supporting the show in the amount of $1,000. And very proud to have you here at the round table and make sure you go to no agenda nation.com/rings they can fill out to all the details so we can get you your signet ring with the sealing wax that goes along with and of course your official certificate of authenticity. Yeah. Oh, wow. So Adam is a like I mentioned like an old old school DJ. And so he is all on top of the jingles on top of the mash ups on top of the extravagance, I guess of things that you can do audio wise And then they they back this up with, you know, some a token of physical appreciation as well.
Something unique a ring, a signet ring with a wax and a certificate showing that you've reached this level as well. So in terms of uniqueness that is pretty up the the levels that they've got to this game. Apparently all of this originated pretty organically as well. It's not like they just randomly started a show. And they're like, Yeah, you know, what, if someone donates 30,000 bucks, I'll do something for them? No, no. So this is a a continual process that's changed over time, obviously, over a decade and a half. And they've they've continually added levels continually with the the show of the support, changed it and maximum mixed and matched it to what they, I suppose foresee is a suitable recompense for other people providing value. So it's sort of like, trading value for value as well. It's not like, you know, they create an amazing show, they put in a ton of effort with all of the, you just heard a tiny portion of the effort that goes into creating something that is truly unique. Other people donate value, but then they give the value back. And it's sort of like this trading and swapping value, where it's, it's just a continual process. It's not like it's a one and done thing. It's like, oh, when this goes on, it doesn't stop, it doesn't stop.
So that is one thing that they do, which I think is completely unique. Another one, I suppose is just their encouragement of other people. So it's just the two of them. They are the only ones who create the show in terms of actually speaking on it and whatnot. But there's a whole crew and cast of people. And I literally mean crew and costs because I call everyone producers. So they this is taken from I believe, like the movie business industry, perhaps even like the radio one where everyone who contributes to the show gets gets some credits, they get some appreciation. And now usually this is just like names on a scrolling screen or something like that. But you could maybe put it in your IMBD I think that's how it's called profile, which is what actors and casting agencies use, I guess to, to check out someone's credits over the years, what they've appeared and, and things like that. And then there's just all the other stuff. So the producer support a couple of things I've written down here, things like the website, this isn't something that Adam and Adam and John use they, other people do, this is the no agenda shop. So there's people who create actual physical items from the show, with shirts and mugs and things like that. And they they get a split of that, I suppose. So they just let you know, their intellectual property, I suppose be used however they want. And then it's sort of just an honor system. People who create the shop, send them some money every now and then there's the troll room. So this is people who want to listen, live and be able to interact with each other in a in a chat style room. They have that physical meetups. I've been to one here in Brisbane once before, but this is just organically supported. This is people when you go into I think it's no agenda meetups.com You can find out are there other people in my local area who, who also listen to the show. And so then I can connect with some people who, you know, appreciate the show as well and get to make some new friends have a common interest and things like that.
boots on the ground. So this is people who might have a particular talent or who are particularly located and then unique situation. So pilots, for example, or people in the medical profession, who can send in notes or commentary on what's going on in their country or in their profession, or an insight that they might have that is particularly useful to the topic of COVID or in politics or whatever the hell it is war that's going on in Ukraine, all those sorts of things, and even cover art. So every single episode has a different cover art. And this is created by artists who submitted in and then Adam and John choose one in particular, and they say yep, there's the one that's going to be used for episode 1454. And that's, you know, plastered everywhere that person gets a credit as well. So the, I suppose the encouragement of, of other people to do work for them in some way. So this is a time talent and treasure. So this is getting into the time and talent section where it's you know, artists. I'm pretty sure that Adam and John aren't amazing at Photoshop, but other people who listen to the show and so they encourage Adjust them and have ways for people, I suppose it's more on their part is the is the ability, the allowance of other people to contribute, and in many ways and, and to, to really make that as accessible as possible. So, if you want, if you're an artist and you want to contribute, they make it as accessible as possible. So they really go out of their way and in many respects, to let other people help them, which is kind of funny in a way you think, Oh, why isn't everyone do that? But when you get down to it, that's pretty damn hard. And you need a lot of time contemplating and seeing, okay, is this worth my effort to set up had a website where people can submit art in a real relatively easy fashion, which can then be used for my show? Is it worth my time setting up that show on that website and whatnot, so they've obviously put a lot of effort into facilitating the process as well. So very, very cool. The no agenda show, I highly recommend that you check it out. If you you know, like I said, you don't have to particularly enjoy the show. I wouldn't say it's something I tune into very often, just because I don't particularly care about news and politics, but I really do appreciate everything that they're doing. Because I it's yeah, it's pretty damn cool. So with all that being said, I'm gonna go on to my own booster Graham Lounge, which you might notice actually has the voice of Adam curry appearing on it. So here we go the histogram lounge.
Welcome to the value for value, gram. Okay, so I did something pretty cool last week, which was I actually promoted the show on fountain FM. And so I've been overwhelmed with different booths coming in. So I'm actually gonna do a little bit of speed reading some of these but I'll particularly pick out the two who sent in some really big amounts and thank them properly before going into the more speed reading section. So coming at the top is Who other than p da P E T AR the slab, who sends in 93,750 SATs. Whoa, thank you very much, Peter. And this is for the last episode.
And he says listening to the mere mortals podcast is like sitting on a patio while having a beer with your thoughtful kind and very fit friend. chatting about something both meaningless yet very important. The mere mortals podcast has the Peter pod fluence our gold stamp of approval. Thumbs up. Thank you very much, Peter, you're very, very kind. This is the Peter who you might I'm not even sure if that was the same Peter, who just got a call out on one of the clips that I played. I don't think so. Because I don't think he lives in BC. But very, he's everywhere. I know he's on no agenda as well. I'm pretty sure he's a Knight of the table. So he's submitted. He's sent in a lot of value to no agenda. So very cool. Peter, thank you very much, my friend. I believe that was sent using fountain as well.
Here's the other second big one. And this was from Mary Oscar, also known as Oscar Mary, who is the creator of the fountain app if you want to know more about him. I did two episodes with him on the minimalist podcast and he says another great episode. Are you going to look at no agenda for an upcoming episode? Well Ahead of you Oscar, there you go. I hope you enjoyed this one. And then like I said, Because I promoted on fountain they've got a lot of exposure and obviously a lot of exposure and an app where people are booster grabbing or somehow know how to do this you're gonna get a lot of people doing that so I'm just going to speed read these and thank all of you but they're not in any particular order other than the order that they got submitted and so all of these just for the interest sake is coming from fountain and if it's not from fountain or particularly call it out, but we have one from knowledge power free and he says love the long term histogram 65 sets. We have one from evil flow and he just has the rock emoji with a guy with sunglasses emoji. Got one from that was 20 SATs 19 SATs from zip Zeplin booster 47 SATs from a master good sir. Three sets from user three territories of the above ah, and he just says one guy Thank you got five sets from Marco Werner. He says value for value I think will also increase entertainment level. Yes, I agree. Thank you. Nine sets from cara cara be Busuu thanks guys. Good content. Hey, my pleasure mate. Nine sites from Prince 004 Love your podcast. Thank you very much my friend prints 20 SATs from user to six to nine eight do BTC is the signal. I'm getting you signal loud and clear my friend.
Fives That's from Zevia. See, welcome to value for value a welcome to you as well. Five sites from Ernesto Fabien 2233. And he says greeting friends. Hey, greetings to you. Ernesto, five sets from user five to seven. I'm loving it. Nine sets from Chi to three. And he says absolutely right or she can't tell. Absolutely right we are early to this market. There's so much potential in the crypto Bitcoin in particular world just wait until this model is applied to social media and platforms like YouTube. Yes, my friend. I'm super excited for the next 510 years in terms of what's going on with the integration of, of crypto currency. And I'm very particular with this with Bitcoin in into the world of all of these different areas and just being able to signal things correctly. And you know, have the reduction of spam because it actually costs something even if it's only nine sets. I know this nine sets is not from a bot because they just can't have the ability to send bulk stuff like this because they'll run out of money pretty quick. And yeah, so I'm very, very I'm 100% on board with you. I'm so excited. Got 90 insights from data as Carlos and he says Honey I'll Mahoto meaning less me and press a scripture personas cunning, less not EVO Igano en el camino and so in English. That means awesome. I'm improving my English while listening to people or persons whose native and native language is English A Gano con el camino and I think that means like I'm improving with the with the journey. Not particularly, that's definitely a saying in Spanish otherwise, because the literal translation is gaining in the road, which doesn't make too much sense. We have one here. 19 SATs from user 5431 for Florida. It is good to listen to this podcast. I agree. I agree. It is good to listen to it. Three sets from dancey. dancey great. I like it 20 sets from the dude good stuff. Exclamation mark three sets from Felice good podcast 47 starts from l 113. Hi, this is my first podcast. I listened here. Thank you for the info regard from Mako. Hey, thank you very much l 100. much appreciate it. I do love having a bit of an international audience. And for those who are just really gone far out of the way, I did have a book reviews channel called Rosetta's in Spanglish, where I would do book reviews of the same same same books that you can find on the Mere Mortals book reviews. But speaking in Spanish, which was to improve my Spanish but also create something I suppose something a little bit different for, for those who are out there. Three sets from Daniel M. 092.
Excellent podcast 90 Insights from the Master Karen. Thank you. Question about five sites from Bitcoin plebs. 21 mil. And he just says fire 75 sets from tip, tip and on for Oui Saxon. Gotta collect them all. Yes, nice. Three sets from Musa Ada, sevens are Gracias, dinero. So that's Thank you money. We've got 94 sets from fifth power productions, and there's a bigger message. excellent discussion on value for value. Thanks for your dedication to bringing value to the space. I appreciate your chapter markers and your diligent efforts to making meaningful connections with your listeners and supporters. It's a little attention to details that make all the difference in user experience, kudos and more booster come in the future. Then with the flexed arm bicep emoji and the clap emoji, hey, thank you very much for the power. I do put in a lot of effort into particularly chapter markers and images. Not as much on this show because it is a little bit shorter. And so I feel like not as necessary. But for the longer episodes that I do on the Mere Mortals show, for example, I really do put in as much effort as I can, including links and things like that as well. So I do enjoy doing those. Those little touches, and I do also think it makes a difference in the end. But yeah, in any case, I enjoy doing it. Five sets from a nesto Fabien 2233 Thumbs up three sets from Musa to a five and they say hi three sets from Vanessa am Allah three sets from at JD 39 Great three sets from user one through four. And then two of the I can only imagine as like the white power and symbol now which people fucking that's so hilarious, but it's the three three fingers so the pinky the middle and the ring finger up and then forming a circle with your pointer and your thumb. So that okay, I guess symbol in Diamond terms. Five sets from Steven Steve the zebra and he says set test it Your test came through May 8 19 SATs from user for a Baba Baba, Windows Diaz, Windows dstu. And then nine sets from user 204 to deter the nice.
So, okay, very encouraging, I do love this the support back in all of the messages, as you can see from there, it's it's not only about the volume of messages but the getting as high quality as well. So I love the the longer ones, you know, even though so many of these were two sets, three sets, 20 sets, you know, that's not going to make a difference to my life at all, you know, the bigger ones like Oscars and P stars, you know, I can see a difference with those. And I really appreciate those ones. But like you see, with the no agenda show, once you get to a certain level, if you've got a million people listening in, and let's say even only a 10th, not not in the 10th only 1000. So 110 1000 Send in, that is still an unbearably huge amount of messages. And so you do have to raise caps for it. So although I enjoyed doing that, you know, in the future, I would maybe skip out the ones just saying test and you know, great Allah, things like that. Just provide I suppose more value in the in the in the section. But also, you know, appreciate I do appreciate all of all of these minor ones, it's, it's a new experience for me for having too much, too many too many messages to go on for it to be a smooth, shorter show. So I really do appreciate that.
My last little section here of value for values, what can you do to support? Well, one, I would just say, value for value, something new that you can do is check out the no agenda show. Obviously, I covered it in great detail. Adam is an amazing person. The whole reason I'm I'm here doing this podcast, the value for value, I literally took it from him, because his dedication, his creation of this model has just inspired me like this is this is how I want to run my life. In essence, this is like a lifestyle change for me. I don't ever want to and you will never see me doing anything advertising related. You know, if I can't make it as a podcaster using value for value, I don't want to make it as a podcaster. Like, that's, that's, that's essentially the ultimatum I've created for myself. So check out the no agenda show and you'll get to see just how awesome Adam is and but also, if you're a podcaster and you're interested in how you can create some ideas for your own podcast, some things to take out of, there's a goldmine a and you'll have to go digging for it because it's a huge amount of shows and a huge amount of things are on there. But there is a goldmine of of ideas to take away from them. So that is it for today. Huge episode. Thank you everyone. The I don't know how many people that was 20 plus people who supported very much appreciated a special shout out to Oscar Mary who created the fountain FM mat and then of course Peter the persistent, the perennial, the slab the pod floor answer. Very much appreciate it for those two for the big booths as well. Everyone else I hope you're having a fantastic morning wherever you are in the world in the morning, Kyrin out
