And so closes the chapter on this version of the Value For Value podcast.
In Ep #18 I go over how I feel I've finished my original inspiration and mission for the podcast, why this has been so influential in my recent chat with the Podfather (Adam Curry), why 2.0 is the most exciting place for innovation, my reasoning for stopping the podcast for the moment plus some stats and big thankyou's to everyone who contributed!
A final thanks to everyone who boosted Season 1, you're all wonderful!
Chat with Adam: https://youtu.be/LVPQxohTZ4k
Timeline:
(0:00) - Intro
(0:47) - My mission
(4:22) - I had a chat with the Podfather!
(9:49) - News & Boostagram Lounge
(12:11) - Stats & thanks
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In Ep #18 I go over how I feel I've finished my original inspiration and mission for the podcast, why this has been so influential in my recent chat with the Podfather (Adam Curry), why 2.0 is the most exciting place for innovation, my reasoning for stopping the podcast for the moment plus some stats and big thankyou's to everyone who contributed!
A final thanks to everyone who boosted Season 1, you're all wonderful!
Chat with Adam: https://youtu.be/LVPQxohTZ4k
Timeline:
(0:00) - Intro
(0:47) - My mission
(4:22) - I had a chat with the Podfather!
(9:49) - News & Boostagram Lounge
(12:11) - Stats & thanks
Value 4 Value Support:
Boostagram: https://www.meremortalspodcast.com/support
Paypal: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/meremortalspodcast
Connect With Kyrin/Mere Mortals:
Website: https://www.meremortalspodcast.com/
Discord: https://discord.gg/jjfq9eGReU
Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/meremortalspods
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/meremortalspodcasts/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@meremortalspodcasts
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Welcome one and all to another episode of the value for value Podcast, the podcast where I Kyrin Down go deep and down into the world of the value for value model, trying to understand for myself and then also explain how one can use this system to not be reliant on advertising money to ask your viewers for help and support and to essentially create a system where you are giving value to people and they are receiving it and then giving it back to you. So that is the ultimate simplicity of it. But when you get into the nuances, it gets quite detailed. I want to go into a little bit about why I started this podcast. And this is why this is called episode 18. Mission accomplished for now. So my original mission for starting this podcast was I had a couple of things, but I'll list them out because they are still relevant. And they explain why my news that is coming up as well as affected the way that I made some of the decisions in those news portions. So just hang on for a couple of minutes.
And we'll get there. So I started this because I essentially wanted to try the podcasting 2.0 tags before switching over to my main Mere Mortals account that is the main podcast that I do. And then also the Mere Mortals, book reviews, which is slightly secondary to that. And this was because I was learning all about podcasting 2.0 from the podcasting 2.0 show with Adam curry and Dave Jones. And I was loving what they were doing. And I was also learning about the value value model from them. Because Adam is a big proponent of it, he's somewhat created it. And so I was just fascinated by how one could use these tags once and for all to make a better show, which was one of my definitely one of my primary aims. Another one was to try and understand it. Because whilst Adam is fantastic at what he does, it's kind of hard for an outsider to see through all of the, like amazing work that he does what actually is value for value is value for value tied up with having a live show is it tied up with asking people for for help, what are some of the rules that you will use and don't use. So this is been a show for me to to really dive deep into the particular nuances, I guess and to explain what I think of that what I've heard from Adam speaking and Dave speaking about this, how I've seen him implemented across his different shows. And I've yet really wanted to just convey that one as a resource for myself to write down but also for other people to, to potentially understand a bit deeper and some of the technical things, the things that might you might not realize, from the surface. So the other one was because I was going to use this as a test podcast as well. So I was potentially thinking, I might try and use this for self hosting, I might try and use this to really, you know, create my do my own coding, perhaps, and maybe learn how I can get essentially stole the files on my own device and potentially suit them, shoot them out into the world when people want them and all those sorts of things.
And I would say for the most part, these have been mission accomplished. And I'll get a bit onto the news, which also explains why I think their mission accomplished. But I really do feel like I've got a decent grasp on the 2.0 tags that I've been able to personally use through through Buzzsprout, which is which I've been hosting with. They are the ones I at the moment who are right on the edge and implementing newest tags, I've definitely found myself being able to understand it better and to have a more clear focus and essentially convinced myself that hey, I can actually do this. And right at the end, I'll go into some of the stats for this particular podcast about how how I've been going with it and whatnot, the test home for the self hosting, it's also been useful, realizing that I don't think I want to go down that route. That seems a bit too technically oriented. For me, I would need to learn coding, I would need to learn quite a few things. And I just don't have the time for that at the moment.
So we will get on to some of the news, which also explained some of my decisions here and why I think I accomplished some things. So the main news for me for this week was I had a chat with the pod father himself, check out the link that you will see now on your podcast and 2.0 app because you better be there. That's the That's where all the cool stuff is that and you would notice that this podcast had a huge influence on my chat with him because I spent probably the first hour of the two and two hours 20 minutes roughly that we had together. Talking about value for value. I'm fascinated by it. I wanted to get into the nuances. I wanted to hear his origin stories of how he created it when he was you know, starting off with with John Cena For Akon, no agenda, I wanted to get his particular thoughts on certain things. And you will notice in that, in that episode that I took a lot of the same chapter art, I took some of the exact same theses, the core philosophies episodes from here, I used as talking points. And so this show was almost a big research project, essentially, coming up to it. This was my, my way of preparing to chat with the pod father, and honestly, like, Holy shit, that is, I first saw him in March of 2020, on the Joe Rogan show, and I just thought this is the coolest guy out like, I sort of express that in the show, but I really want to impress just how awesome I, I thought and still do. And in fact, even more so now, when I first saw him there, and to think that I would be myself chatting with him a year and a half later is just just bonkers. That is so so cool. So you know, getting him on. And I really did try and ask him questions that he doesn't typically get, because, you know, he's done so many things. But there's some real standouts for people the value for value, the creation of podcasting meeting, you know, Steve Jobs, and the helicopters, the fame, the company, all that sort of stuff is fascinating. But I think, for me, personally, the most fascinating thing is that he's created this model, and he's been able to carve out an existence not only for him, but his family, and John's family and multiple other people who are all connected with the no agenda show. And I just think that is just wonderful. It's beautiful. It's, it's honestly astounding, that people would voluntarily handing their money.
And I just, like, I'm blown, it's given me faith in humanity, essentially, not that I was down on humanity before, but this was a real eye opener to the levels that, that humans really can, you know, strive to achieve of, of helping one another and providing value back and forth. And, you know, bringing out the better sides of humanity. So didn't mean to get super deep there. But having that chat with him was just just absolutely amazing. And this show, the, you know, 17 episodes now 18 that were built up in prior to this, I think really put me in good stead to, to get as deepest with them as I as I was physically able to and, you know, I still have many, many things to learn, there was still many questions, which I didn't frame properly, which I could have done better and whatnot. But I am way, way better off having done this show prior prior to actually chatting with the pod father, Adam himself. And the the feedback has been pretty good. I've had a couple of people who I didn't think would be particularly interested in the value for value model. And I was saying, hey, well, you know, I did this episode, you might not enjoy the first bit, but there's still some really cool things at the end, where he's talking about, you know, coming to Australia and just wacky stuff about books and motorcycle crashes and stuff like that. But no, I've had some people really saying, Hey, that's a really cool mod I like I really like what he's done. And which gives me me a lot of hope as well that, you know, the value for value model only works if other people are into it as well. So I've really, really, really enjoyed that. Some of the other random news has been just a bunch of lots of connected things. So C pod versus stud and put the cross app comments on the Dave Jones is working on the helipad, and it seems like it's up and running in the Umbral store. And so if you have a lightning node, you can now finally have an easy way of getting boostagrams. Adam is himself and chats with Tascam, I believe to create a podcasting device, you know, his optimal one. And so I just see all these things going on in the in the 2.0 world and I'm like, Man, this is the place to be this is the coolest shit out this is where the innovation has happening. And I'm really glad to be a small part of that community. And, and helping it along as best I can. And it's it's just been so fun. One other thing that came from the last show as well was the dead doesn't mean unusable so that we're talking about podcasts that don't have active uploads within the last 30 days or 90 days or have just been sitting in perpetuity for a while. And those can have value as well. Those can be something that people can come back to and you know, maybe it's not the most popular, maybe not everyone's talking about it, but that can still have some really, really great things in it and which is getting into my news, I guess, which is that I'm going to be shutting down the value for value podcast for a while.
I'm potentially for the For a long time, I'm not particularly sure there's a couple of things that have been going through my head. One is, now that I have chatted with Adam. And even before that chat with him, I was noticing I was starting to get to the end of the, I think the real big juicy parts of value for value. And yes, I could get into some more nuances. Oscar Merry, for example, sent me a boostagram one time saying how he would really like to hear about other podcasters how they implement it into the show. I agree, that would be a really cool way of doing that. But I guess it goes a bit beyond of what I was originally trying to do, which was just to understand it for myself and play around with this podcast. So like they were mentioning in the I think it was episode 66 billion served the dead doesn't mean on useful. And so this podcast is going to be dead for a little while, essentially, I was realizing that if I really wanted to create something here, I would have to put in a lot more effort and time. And honestly, at the moment is just once a week, just, you know, doing it just audio just just chilling out, essentially, it was always a bit of adjusting, I'll just do this, I wasn't spending hours and hours thinking about it, creating it doing all these things. And it's gotten to the point where I feel like I'd need to make a decision of Do you want to improve this make it better? Or are you going to use that time for other things. And essentially, for now, I've decided I'm going to use it for other things. So I definitely would like to come back at some stage, maybe I can just come and add random episodes every now and then. But I would not say that you should come back here for consistency, because that's just not going to happen. I need that time for other things, I want to use it for other things.
And I just feel this is a nice natural end point or a pause or a break or hibernation, whatever you want to call it for the for the time being. So that's a that's the main news on this point. I was sort of hinting at it in a couple of the last episodes, and now it is official. Now with that being said, I feel like one other way that I can get back some value for this last one is to just talk a little bit about some of the stats, some of the things and some things that need to be presented as well. So I'll go on to some stats, because you guys might find this useful, useful, enlightening. So of the 17 episodes up to this point, I have received in total value 68,574 Satoshis. Wow, thank you so, so much for everyone who did that. And that came from 68, boosts, and 156 streams. And of those, this show in total has received 419 So that's about almost exactly know a little bit more than 1/3 of the of the total screenplays were were actually value enabled. So I'd really do appreciate everyone for doing that. A couple of other random stats 42% of the listeners came from North America 27% in Oceania 23% in Europe 5% In Asia, and then one solitary one in Africa and one solitary one in South America. Thank you, thank you people for for tuning into those. Those ones, they're some of the apps and devices from what I can tell it was mostly web browser people listening in also Castamatic had quite a few and yeah, those were the the main the main stats that I got from this the thing I also wanted to do was really just thank some people who have helped submit and you know supported this show. It gave me a lot of encouragement receiving those first boostagrams I remember those coming in be like well, this is Oh, go and then also you know, some continued stuff me being able to play me being able to somewhat guilt Oscar merry into into sending a boostagram, because I knew we listened to the show and I was you know, had gone a couple of weeks without some things like that was was really fun. And I really enjoyed doing that sort of stuff. And I've been going back through the stats here and once again, I do want to apologize in advance if I don't say your name here. I really did try my best to gain to get everyone who has contributed but with the way that I am doing it through Satoshi stream at the moment it's it's not an easy method of of getting to that and there's a possibility I happen to someone and there was a couple of anonymous ones as well. So I really want to thank Aaron from the salanomics podcast Oscar Merry from Fountain FM, Chad F you can find him in the podcasting 2.0 World Kyle Herbert, the host of the intergalactic boombox podcast, sir twin screw as stuffed his name up a couple of times. I'm sorry, I apologize Nullifier and potentially Petar as well. And so, all of you, you've helped contribute and those anonymous ones and if I have missed you, please, I do apologize for that all of you have helped to contribute to the show, the Satoshis amount whilst I do enjoy and you know, how much is that, you know, that's that's like, probably about 20 $30 right there. That's, that's not nothing. That's, that's really something for a show that I just kicked off, it's sort of hasn't been my main focus. And, yeah, I really do want to just thank all of you for, for being part of the show as well, because your boosta grams are part of the show you are, you are an integral part of, of everything we've done here with the first 18 episodes. And, you know, I do hope to leave this podcast up for posterity just so other people can come in and sort of have a peek into the, to the view of of value for value and learn more for themselves. And Your support helps helped make that happen as well. So maybe in the future, I will, we'll come back and come back with a vengeance. I really don't know, it's this is the second podcast, I've had to sort of put on put on hold, I used to do more Reseñas In Spanglish which was book reviews that I did in Spanish. And I really enjoyed doing those. But once again, time constraints means that I should go and really focus on creating a show that I'm really really happy with, which is the Mere Mortals and so that is where the the time and energy and effort will be really devoted to as well as, you know, just making myself a better person and trying to make the world a better place as well. So if you want to catch me, you should definitely check out the Mere Mortals or the Mere Mortals book reviews, if you're into books, those are the places where you can find me in the future and if you want to be part of those shows, everyone is welcome over there. We really enjoy the interaction. So that has been it for today. Mission accomplished. For now I feel like I've I'm really happy with the point that I've come up to with this with everything that I've been doing. And once again, it's just for the moment, it's just for now. I'm really happy with that, who knows what the future will hold. And I think that's a perfect place to end it off. Once again, thank you everyone for tuning in. And I really do hope you're having a fantastic day, wherever you are in the world. Kyrin out
Welcome one and all to another episode of the value for value Podcast, the podcast where I Kyrin Down go deep and down into the world of the value for value model, trying to understand for myself and then also explain how one can use this system to not be reliant on advertising money to ask your viewers for help and support and to essentially create a system where you are giving value to people and they are receiving it and then giving it back to you. So that is the ultimate simplicity of it. But when you get into the nuances, it gets quite detailed. I want to go into a little bit about why I started this podcast. And this is why this is called episode 18. Mission accomplished for now. So my original mission for starting this podcast was I had a couple of things, but I'll list them out because they are still relevant. And they explain why my news that is coming up as well as affected the way that I made some of the decisions in those news portions. So just hang on for a couple of minutes.
And we'll get there. So I started this because I essentially wanted to try the podcasting 2.0 tags before switching over to my main Mere Mortals account that is the main podcast that I do. And then also the Mere Mortals, book reviews, which is slightly secondary to that. And this was because I was learning all about podcasting 2.0 from the podcasting 2.0 show with Adam curry and Dave Jones. And I was loving what they were doing. And I was also learning about the value value model from them. Because Adam is a big proponent of it, he's somewhat created it. And so I was just fascinated by how one could use these tags once and for all to make a better show, which was one of my definitely one of my primary aims. Another one was to try and understand it. Because whilst Adam is fantastic at what he does, it's kind of hard for an outsider to see through all of the, like amazing work that he does what actually is value for value is value for value tied up with having a live show is it tied up with asking people for for help, what are some of the rules that you will use and don't use. So this is been a show for me to to really dive deep into the particular nuances, I guess and to explain what I think of that what I've heard from Adam speaking and Dave speaking about this, how I've seen him implemented across his different shows. And I've yet really wanted to just convey that one as a resource for myself to write down but also for other people to, to potentially understand a bit deeper and some of the technical things, the things that might you might not realize, from the surface. So the other one was because I was going to use this as a test podcast as well. So I was potentially thinking, I might try and use this for self hosting, I might try and use this to really, you know, create my do my own coding, perhaps, and maybe learn how I can get essentially stole the files on my own device and potentially suit them, shoot them out into the world when people want them and all those sorts of things.
And I would say for the most part, these have been mission accomplished. And I'll get a bit onto the news, which also explains why I think their mission accomplished. But I really do feel like I've got a decent grasp on the 2.0 tags that I've been able to personally use through through Buzzsprout, which is which I've been hosting with. They are the ones I at the moment who are right on the edge and implementing newest tags, I've definitely found myself being able to understand it better and to have a more clear focus and essentially convinced myself that hey, I can actually do this. And right at the end, I'll go into some of the stats for this particular podcast about how how I've been going with it and whatnot, the test home for the self hosting, it's also been useful, realizing that I don't think I want to go down that route. That seems a bit too technically oriented. For me, I would need to learn coding, I would need to learn quite a few things. And I just don't have the time for that at the moment.
So we will get on to some of the news, which also explained some of my decisions here and why I think I accomplished some things. So the main news for me for this week was I had a chat with the pod father himself, check out the link that you will see now on your podcast and 2.0 app because you better be there. That's the That's where all the cool stuff is that and you would notice that this podcast had a huge influence on my chat with him because I spent probably the first hour of the two and two hours 20 minutes roughly that we had together. Talking about value for value. I'm fascinated by it. I wanted to get into the nuances. I wanted to hear his origin stories of how he created it when he was you know, starting off with with John Cena For Akon, no agenda, I wanted to get his particular thoughts on certain things. And you will notice in that, in that episode that I took a lot of the same chapter art, I took some of the exact same theses, the core philosophies episodes from here, I used as talking points. And so this show was almost a big research project, essentially, coming up to it. This was my, my way of preparing to chat with the pod father, and honestly, like, Holy shit, that is, I first saw him in March of 2020, on the Joe Rogan show, and I just thought this is the coolest guy out like, I sort of express that in the show, but I really want to impress just how awesome I, I thought and still do. And in fact, even more so now, when I first saw him there, and to think that I would be myself chatting with him a year and a half later is just just bonkers. That is so so cool. So you know, getting him on. And I really did try and ask him questions that he doesn't typically get, because, you know, he's done so many things. But there's some real standouts for people the value for value, the creation of podcasting meeting, you know, Steve Jobs, and the helicopters, the fame, the company, all that sort of stuff is fascinating. But I think, for me, personally, the most fascinating thing is that he's created this model, and he's been able to carve out an existence not only for him, but his family, and John's family and multiple other people who are all connected with the no agenda show. And I just think that is just wonderful. It's beautiful. It's, it's honestly astounding, that people would voluntarily handing their money.
And I just, like, I'm blown, it's given me faith in humanity, essentially, not that I was down on humanity before, but this was a real eye opener to the levels that, that humans really can, you know, strive to achieve of, of helping one another and providing value back and forth. And, you know, bringing out the better sides of humanity. So didn't mean to get super deep there. But having that chat with him was just just absolutely amazing. And this show, the, you know, 17 episodes now 18 that were built up in prior to this, I think really put me in good stead to, to get as deepest with them as I as I was physically able to and, you know, I still have many, many things to learn, there was still many questions, which I didn't frame properly, which I could have done better and whatnot. But I am way, way better off having done this show prior prior to actually chatting with the pod father, Adam himself. And the the feedback has been pretty good. I've had a couple of people who I didn't think would be particularly interested in the value for value model. And I was saying, hey, well, you know, I did this episode, you might not enjoy the first bit, but there's still some really cool things at the end, where he's talking about, you know, coming to Australia and just wacky stuff about books and motorcycle crashes and stuff like that. But no, I've had some people really saying, Hey, that's a really cool mod I like I really like what he's done. And which gives me me a lot of hope as well that, you know, the value for value model only works if other people are into it as well. So I've really, really, really enjoyed that. Some of the other random news has been just a bunch of lots of connected things. So C pod versus stud and put the cross app comments on the Dave Jones is working on the helipad, and it seems like it's up and running in the Umbral store. And so if you have a lightning node, you can now finally have an easy way of getting boostagrams. Adam is himself and chats with Tascam, I believe to create a podcasting device, you know, his optimal one. And so I just see all these things going on in the in the 2.0 world and I'm like, Man, this is the place to be this is the coolest shit out this is where the innovation has happening. And I'm really glad to be a small part of that community. And, and helping it along as best I can. And it's it's just been so fun. One other thing that came from the last show as well was the dead doesn't mean unusable so that we're talking about podcasts that don't have active uploads within the last 30 days or 90 days or have just been sitting in perpetuity for a while. And those can have value as well. Those can be something that people can come back to and you know, maybe it's not the most popular, maybe not everyone's talking about it, but that can still have some really, really great things in it and which is getting into my news, I guess, which is that I'm going to be shutting down the value for value podcast for a while.
I'm potentially for the For a long time, I'm not particularly sure there's a couple of things that have been going through my head. One is, now that I have chatted with Adam. And even before that chat with him, I was noticing I was starting to get to the end of the, I think the real big juicy parts of value for value. And yes, I could get into some more nuances. Oscar Merry, for example, sent me a boostagram one time saying how he would really like to hear about other podcasters how they implement it into the show. I agree, that would be a really cool way of doing that. But I guess it goes a bit beyond of what I was originally trying to do, which was just to understand it for myself and play around with this podcast. So like they were mentioning in the I think it was episode 66 billion served the dead doesn't mean on useful. And so this podcast is going to be dead for a little while, essentially, I was realizing that if I really wanted to create something here, I would have to put in a lot more effort and time. And honestly, at the moment is just once a week, just, you know, doing it just audio just just chilling out, essentially, it was always a bit of adjusting, I'll just do this, I wasn't spending hours and hours thinking about it, creating it doing all these things. And it's gotten to the point where I feel like I'd need to make a decision of Do you want to improve this make it better? Or are you going to use that time for other things. And essentially, for now, I've decided I'm going to use it for other things. So I definitely would like to come back at some stage, maybe I can just come and add random episodes every now and then. But I would not say that you should come back here for consistency, because that's just not going to happen. I need that time for other things, I want to use it for other things.
And I just feel this is a nice natural end point or a pause or a break or hibernation, whatever you want to call it for the for the time being. So that's a that's the main news on this point. I was sort of hinting at it in a couple of the last episodes, and now it is official. Now with that being said, I feel like one other way that I can get back some value for this last one is to just talk a little bit about some of the stats, some of the things and some things that need to be presented as well. So I'll go on to some stats, because you guys might find this useful, useful, enlightening. So of the 17 episodes up to this point, I have received in total value 68,574 Satoshis. Wow, thank you so, so much for everyone who did that. And that came from 68, boosts, and 156 streams. And of those, this show in total has received 419 So that's about almost exactly know a little bit more than 1/3 of the of the total screenplays were were actually value enabled. So I'd really do appreciate everyone for doing that. A couple of other random stats 42% of the listeners came from North America 27% in Oceania 23% in Europe 5% In Asia, and then one solitary one in Africa and one solitary one in South America. Thank you, thank you people for for tuning into those. Those ones, they're some of the apps and devices from what I can tell it was mostly web browser people listening in also Castamatic had quite a few and yeah, those were the the main the main stats that I got from this the thing I also wanted to do was really just thank some people who have helped submit and you know supported this show. It gave me a lot of encouragement receiving those first boostagrams I remember those coming in be like well, this is Oh, go and then also you know, some continued stuff me being able to play me being able to somewhat guilt Oscar merry into into sending a boostagram, because I knew we listened to the show and I was you know, had gone a couple of weeks without some things like that was was really fun. And I really enjoyed doing that sort of stuff. And I've been going back through the stats here and once again, I do want to apologize in advance if I don't say your name here. I really did try my best to gain to get everyone who has contributed but with the way that I am doing it through Satoshi stream at the moment it's it's not an easy method of of getting to that and there's a possibility I happen to someone and there was a couple of anonymous ones as well. So I really want to thank Aaron from the salanomics podcast Oscar Merry from Fountain FM, Chad F you can find him in the podcasting 2.0 World Kyle Herbert, the host of the intergalactic boombox podcast, sir twin screw as stuffed his name up a couple of times. I'm sorry, I apologize Nullifier and potentially Petar as well. And so, all of you, you've helped contribute and those anonymous ones and if I have missed you, please, I do apologize for that all of you have helped to contribute to the show, the Satoshis amount whilst I do enjoy and you know, how much is that, you know, that's that's like, probably about 20 $30 right there. That's, that's not nothing. That's, that's really something for a show that I just kicked off, it's sort of hasn't been my main focus. And, yeah, I really do want to just thank all of you for, for being part of the show as well, because your boosta grams are part of the show you are, you are an integral part of, of everything we've done here with the first 18 episodes. And, you know, I do hope to leave this podcast up for posterity just so other people can come in and sort of have a peek into the, to the view of of value for value and learn more for themselves. And Your support helps helped make that happen as well. So maybe in the future, I will, we'll come back and come back with a vengeance. I really don't know, it's this is the second podcast, I've had to sort of put on put on hold, I used to do more Reseñas In Spanglish which was book reviews that I did in Spanish. And I really enjoyed doing those. But once again, time constraints means that I should go and really focus on creating a show that I'm really really happy with, which is the Mere Mortals and so that is where the the time and energy and effort will be really devoted to as well as, you know, just making myself a better person and trying to make the world a better place as well. So if you want to catch me, you should definitely check out the Mere Mortals or the Mere Mortals book reviews, if you're into books, those are the places where you can find me in the future and if you want to be part of those shows, everyone is welcome over there. We really enjoy the interaction. So that has been it for today. Mission accomplished. For now I feel like I've I'm really happy with the point that I've come up to with this with everything that I've been doing. And once again, it's just for the moment, it's just for now. I'm really happy with that, who knows what the future will hold. And I think that's a perfect place to end it off. Once again, thank you everyone for tuning in. And I really do hope you're having a fantastic day, wherever you are in the world. Kyrin out